Well, thanks for coming, everyone. Maybe people aren't in the mood to talk about the trees, but I'm excited to learn about the trees. Thank you for coming to tonight's talk with the commissioner of Vermont Forests, Parks, and Recreation, Michael Snyder. I just wanted to mention a few housekeeping items. Please mute or turn off your cell phones. If you need the restroom, it's located at the back of the store to the right of the back door. We will lock the front door to keep shoppers from coming and disturbing the event. The back door, which is this way, is open, so if you need to leave during the talk, you can use the back door. I'd like to thank Orca Media for filming tonight's event, and I'd like to let you know to sign up for our newsletter to be passed around. You can follow us on Twitter or Facebook to learn about other author events. Our next author event is October 1st. We will be hosting Archer Mayer with his 30th Joe Gunther book, and then for poetry lovers, save the date for October 8th. We will have Reuben Jackson and his new poetry collection, Scattered Clouts. So we're happy to have Michael here tonight to talk about a subject so dear to so many vermanders, I thought, trees, because there are more trees in the state of Vermont than there are people. So luckily we have Michael here to teach us about that. Each chapter in this new book Woods-Wise, An Exploration of Forests and Forestry, answers an important question that you may have spent your life wondering, such as, does a bumper crop of acorns predict a harsh winter? We need to know that. How long does it take to grow a Christmas tree, and what would I be getting into in case anybody wants to farm Christmas trees? And which trees make the best firewood? I thought that was a particularly important one. I don't have a wood stove now in the house that I owned, for many years, and I think I needed that information. I spent the first winter being very cold. In all seriousness, the book is quite comprehensive, and I hope you pick up copies for yourselves or for a friend. I think it would make a great gift, and the holiday season is coming up. Michael will be happy to sign books after his talk, and he'll be answering questions as well. Michael Snyder has served as commissioner of Vermont Forests, Parks, and Recreation since January 2011. For 14 years prior to that, he was the Chittenden County Forester, providing land stewardship assistance to private landowners and municipalities. He also taught forestry courses at the University of Vermont for 12 years, and wrote the Woods-Wise column for Northern Woodlands Magazine for nearly two decades. Previously, he worked in forest ecosystem science at the Hubbard Brook Experimental Forest and in land surveying and forest management in New Hampshire, Mexico, and Sweden. He received both his bachelor's and master of science degrees in forestry from the University of Vermont. He owns and manages a 91-acre forest in Essex County, where he always learns and sometimes practices what he's learned about the woods. I thought that was funny to include. He's an avid outdoorist, especially enjoying hunting, fishing, skiing, water sports, backpacking, and camping. And he also really likes food and music. So he's like an all-around everything kind of guy. So I think if you have questions about any of that, right, we'll be happy to talk about. So please help me welcome Michael Snyder. Thank you, Samantha, and your upon books. And thank you all. What a food, I have to be honest with you. Full disclaimer, never done this before. But I'm really happy to do it. And thanks for being here for your interest, whatever that interest may be. I thought I would maybe begin by just kind of talking a little bit about the book and the work that led to the book and how it came to be and my previous work that created this. And then maybe read a little bit and take questions, hoping that works. And especially for the reading part, if you've read it or parts of it or I've looked at it and you want to suggest something, a particular thing I'd love to go there and read what you might be interested in, I'm happy to pick something too. Kind of curious by show of hands, how many of you have, excuse me, woods of your own? Anyone? Great. Okay, sort of? Yeah, I'm kind of, okay, any good snack, that's good. Welcome. This is the Woodswise talk. You're in the right place? Yes, that's right. It's not who I am, thank you. Just getting started. Mike Snyder, writer of Woodswise, and just saying, maybe I'll begin there with a little bit of background. But thinking if you have some requests and what you'd like to hear about, welcome, come on in, we're a work in progress. As Samantha indicated in the sort of background, I worked, so I'm the Commissioner of Forest Parks and Recreation. It's a department within state government, one of three departments in the Agency of Natural Resources. It's a huge responsibility and incredible honor to be the leader of a department with a mission and the people that we work with that's so Vermont, as maybe was mentioned, and really proud of that, and trying to, I guess the name, I would say Forest Parks and Recreation says what you need to know. It kind of captures it all. Our statutory mission, we're sort of charged with overseeing forest health, forest productivity, forest use in the state, and to promote understanding of forests and to select all forestry, the peaceful coexistence of people and forests for productive outcomes. That's actually our charge, and it's the state policy to have a connection with forests and to do that in an economic way even. That's a big part of our work. We also oversee, operate these gems, these 55 gems throughout the state of the Vermont State Park System. Anybody, state park visitors, goers, happy, they're amazing, aren't they? We have a million visitors to Vermont State Parks. There's 625,000 of us, and a million people come to sleep outside in state parks and be with their families and friends, and great things happen from that. So again, so proud to be part of that mission, and then there's recreation, Forest Parks and Recreation, which is all of our culture of outdoor activity and vigorous outdoor life, whether it's, and it's such a great span of just people going outside and moving their bodies together and with productive outcomes, again, health, wellness, local economic activity and a connection to the land. These are all super important and really are part of our culture. And again, so proud to be the commissioner of this department with that mission. It's been a few years now, two governors, but previous to that, you know, I am a forester still, I hope, and was. I worked for this department as a county forester, which is a service role. There's one in each county to provide technical assistance to private land owners, and that's really sort of how this all happened, was through my love of the woods and my fascination with people in their woods, and that was the role. Just to meet with land owners, it's a pretty darn good job. Meet with land owners, interesting people with beautiful land, walk through that land with them, listen to them, understand what they're interested in, and try to help them. You sleep pretty well at night when you have a job like that. And it was a great honor. And during that time, by visiting with land owners at their request, not in a regulatory way, hey, I have questions, why is this, what can I do about that? Visiting with them, listening to them, they just had great questions and would ask things, and noted those questions and had this abiding interest in writing, particularly about the natural world and people coexisting with it, and it done some freelancing and wrote a few feature articles for this fledgling magazine, Vermont Woodlands, that became Northern Woodlands. And as I continued to work with these land owners and thought, this is a great list of, these people ask great questions through their eyes of what they're seeing. And it's very important to help connect people, I believe, and demystify the woods and science and make it accessible. It became a growing passion. And when the magazine said, you know, we're thinking about developing a column, this resulted in them saying, well, how about you stop doing these features and maybe do a column in every issue that addresses one of these questions that you ascertain from land owners. And that's how it was born. So for almost 20 years, I wrote a quarterly column called Woods Wise. Little play on words, we want people to be wise about the woods, but we also want people to embrace the wise and wherefores of the woods and why is this and how does that work? And it was, I jumped at it and it was really great. So we had this, the editors back and forth about, well, how about this? And what about that? I'd offer these questions and then each issue was a question. Each edition, my column was one page, 750 words with a question that I was supposed to answer. And then I said, how about a dress? Can we address a little attitude here? Because you know what? The fact is, we know and have learned so much about, begins with forests are incredibly complex. They're characterized by complexity and dynamism. They're changing all the time. They're incredibly diverse and complicated. And, well, sorry, I don't want to go down too far of that road and get, I know we have a time frame. There's so much to explore there, but explaining, trying to help people see and access and we'd settle on a question and I'd tackle it and it was a lot of fun. Thinking about explaining how the process worked but I'll save that and we can get to that. So, here I am here today looking back, we started this column. It ran for almost 20 years and wrote 80 something of them and it seemed it was well received. I got good feedback and it was just incredibly, incredible learning opportunity for me to engage and then dig into stuff and find answers and think about how it could work and then try to express it in a way in 750 words that somebody might want to read. Wonderful opportunity. It ran, it was wonderful. And then I became commissioner and I tried to keep calling and it was just like too much. So, kind of pulled back and said, you know, I think we'll put this to rest but how about we compile this? And that's what this is, it's a compilation of all of these 63, I think it's 63 kind of best of columns refreshed, some of them things have changed, kind of went back and said, well, that's actually different now and add to that or this person has a different title now. So, we refreshed, we edited and compiled with some photographs, put them in an order, wrote a forward and introduction and have a book and it's really wonderful, did I mention that? It's really great. So, what a thrill to be here to be able to share some of it with you. Again, keeping in mind, this is the department and Bondcliffe books as publisher in a collaborative relationship. This is a copyright state of Vermont. This is kind of your book, you do have to buy it. But, I'm really proud of that and I owe a great debt of gratitude before I move on about all the foresters that are colleagues that have helped answer questions, scientists, landowners, critics, all of them have helped me become a better writer, a better forester, better communicator and to make this book happen. So, it's wonderful to have your name on a book about a subject you're passionate about your whole life but it has to be said that this doesn't happen alone and I'm very grateful to so many who helped do it. But, here we are with this book which is a compilation of these columns over two decades put in one place and I'm really psyched to share a little bit of it with you all. Sound good? I've been thinking about columns or questions. I'm really interested in responding to your questions or interest in this and I don't know what that is and I don't know how much you might be thinking. So, I'm happy to choose something to read as a sample to maybe get things going but I'd love it if somebody said, well, I read this and liked it or I looked at the list and I'm curious about that. Is there any such? Anybody? Wondering about, is there something I could read that would be of particular interest? Anyone? There's no wrong answer here. Then I'm happy to choose, shall I read something? What's your favorite? Favorite, I was hoping somebody would ask. And it's really hard to answer that because it really is about the audience. It kind of makes, I mean that's the point, is the whole point here is to help demystify, there's this great green mass out there, Vermont is the Green Mountain State, we're 78% forested and it's easy to kind of just sort of see as a blur. And that's the whole thing, helping people. The point is to help people get past that and look closer and understand that it is complex and it's changing. We know an enormous amount about this but there's a lot we still don't know. That was part of why can I address questions and not answer them to embrace that uncertainty that the mystery might even say magic still that exists. So my favorite is the ones that somebody else learned from or more importantly got inspired to go outside and just be in the woods, whether it doesn't even have to be about forestry, it can be just taking a walk. But be there and know that it's welcoming and in the introduction I write about the difference between in my mind the words forest and woods. This is woods-wise, not forest-wise and as they say, there's a difference to me. Forests are big and complex and kind of there's a scientific sense about them. Forests intrigue me. The woods, smaller, closer, familiar, kind of comfortable, woods welcome me. Woods are these places within big forests that we can get to know and that's where the magic happens. That's why we call it woods-wise. So my favorite is which one that interests you or that moved somebody, you haven't read it so you don't know that. So I hope you out, Jack. Take it on me. There's a few here that I have heard from people that have said, boy that's really, and what a throw too, by the way, to have somebody say I didn't know that, I'm interested in that and that really crystallized it for me. And I'm gonna name a couple by reading the question. Okay, we'll have a little crowdsourcing here. Does this work? Among those, I think there was a question, does a hilly acre contain more land than a flat one? This is the old idea that if, yeah, sure, Texas is big, but if you flattened out Vermont, we'd be right there, right? So, but how does that work? People have been interested in that. What causes those white splotches on tree bark? You take a hike through the woods and you see these white splotches. It's like snow, what is that stuck there? Is that bad for the trees? Is that a disease? That comes up a lot and apparently my answer to that satisfied some folks. I do have some favorites, I guess, when pressed. And I think, you know, I think it, but more about me and less about the reader, it's that it was so fun to learn about it. And one would be this question of, what are those blisters on the bark of balsam fir trees? I don't know where you're all coming from and what you know and I don't wanna go beyond, but like balsam fir is a really common tree in Vermont. It's one of our standard Christmas trees. Do you know what we mean by bark blisters? Like on the bark of a fir tree, there's these little protrusions. They're little bulges all over the bark. They're very common. What are those? That's one that seems to have captured people's attention. There's, you know, the mix here is tree physiology. How are trees built and how do they work? And then there's forest ecology. How do trees collectively function as a forest? And then there's silviculture and forestry. How do people interact with forests in a corrective way? Those are the three broad themes that I've addressed throughout this book. Is there one of those that you'd be most interested in? How trees work, how forests work, or how we work with forests? Just choose one for God's sake. Oh, forests? So, I'm gonna go. Which one? How the forests work for the economy. How the trees work amongst each other. I have a just choose one and I have a forest ecology. It's more fun than I thought it was gonna be. Okay, how about, I think I'm doing it. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go balsam fir. You okay with that? Yeah. Yeah, I'm super. Those blisters on the bark of balsam firs. Those bulging cysts on its otherwise very smooth, gray brown bark are a distinguishing characteristic of balsam fir. They're plastered all over most fir stems. Aside from the really young ones and the really old rough bark trees, bark blisters are found on nearly all balsam firs. As abundant and normal as needles, these blisters are thought to be helpful in the tree's defense system, especially against insects and pathogens. And people have made use of them for a very long time. Inside each fir blister is a fragrant, impossible not to think Christmas. Viscous, sticky, clear resin, also called pitch. It's not sap, which conifers also produce. Sap is mostly water with sugars, vitamins, hormones and enzymes. It serves a nutritive function in the tree. Resin is very different. It's more like turpentine than sap. At this point, we could discuss di-terpenoids and oleoresins and the like, but let's leave our comparisons to sap at this. Nobody makes delectable syrup from conifer resin. And archaeology fans everywhere know resin in its hardened, fossilized form as amber. All of our native and common conifers produce such resins, conifers being the evergreens. They all produce such resins, though how and where in the tree they are produced varies by groups of species. Resin in pines, spruces and larches, for example, exist in resin canals, elongated, tubular spaces within the wood. Fir resin, like that in hemlock and cedars, is found in the bark. Only rarely, in response to traumatic injury, will it be found within the wood. In fact, the absence of resin ducts in the wood of fir timber is used in identifying and sorting fir lumber from spruces. But despite their great abundance, fir blisters still stir some scientific debate about their function. Whereas some researchers have classified conifer resin as a hydrocarbon, a compound of cellular waste products, others deem it as a useful secretion, pointing to mounting evidence of its role in a range of protective functions. Evidently, these wastes defend the tree against a wide range of birds, mammals, insects and pathogens. For example, insects attempting to pierce the bark of a bosom fir to feed on the sweet sap in the wood inside are thwarted by that sticky goo in the bark.  It has also been speculated that the highly antiseptic qualities of resin help prevent wood decay. Whatever debate remains about the mechanisms of resin's benefits to trees, there is a long list of the ways that people have made good use of balsam resin. Owing to its optical properties, it has a refractive index similar to ordinary glass, balsam was used as a medium for mounting microscope specimens and as a cement for optical systems like lenses and gun sights. For centuries, it was used as a fixative and a glossing agent on oil paintings and to waterproof pottery. Many a northern woodsman has started a fire or sealed a wound with it and no small amount of gear has been similarly patched. It has been used in dental procedures and cough syrups as a vapor to ease headaches and as an ingestible to ease stomach aches. In a pinch, it'll even do as a crude chapstick. Of course, now we have synthetics for most of these things, but they can't take the fun of ingenuity away and balsam resins deliver good entertainment. Sure, there's the traditional thumb press resulting in a sticky squirt aimed at your little brother. Push on them and out it comes. But there's more.  Now drop that twig in a pool of water and be amazed at that quiet little resin rocket motorboat as the twig speeds away from you. The twig is propelled by the water-revoiding chemistry of the balsam resin. Who knew science could be so much fun? And you have that one. More than you ever wanted to know about balsam fur blisters? I think the point here is that, right, there's just a blister on a tree, but it's characteristic of the tree and people do ask and little kids do poke into it and it's really fun to get that stuff on your little sister or whatever, right? And yet, who knew it was like in microscopes and gun sites and people have used it for centuries. It has these legitimate properties and yet it's doing all this incredibly important work for the tree itself. And I think that's why I would choose this as a favorite of the essays that are, again, aimed at demystifying, I hope, making the science of it all, which is significant, accessible, enjoyable, but more than anything, connecting the people to the trees and the forests at every chance because we, you know, do you have a favorite tree that you can think of, a specific tree and not a species, but in your yard or nearby, right? Anybody get a favorite tree? You can all think of a tree that you would buy or like Sophie, that tree that you're imagining. You share 25% of your genes with that tree. We are connected with trees. Trees have been here a hundred before us, they'll be here beyond us and we are inextricably linked and utterly dependent on them. And I think that's the things, the people in forests. I've told students for years, forests are inscrutable in so many ways, they're complex. We've mentioned dynamism and complexity. Did I mention they're complicated? And they're the easy part. It's the people that are really challenging and I think that's the idea here is to bring the people to the woods, bring the woods to the people, whatever it takes, because we got this folks, and it's not that difficult and there's fun to be had as well. I think that's the idea here. I'll pause here. Have we stimulated any questions or suggestions? Yes, sir, please. I think this is beyond the scope of the book, but I'm curious, when is it appropriate to manage forests versus when is it appropriate to leave forest alone and not manage them at all? It's a fundamental question, a really good one. I appreciate it, it's not beyond the scope. I think to some extent as a forester, a proud forester about, again, that's to me, that's the peaceful coexistence of people in forests for productive outcomes. That's not just willy-nilly, it's not whatever, it's based on understanding how forests work and then being honest about wanting things, we have a lot of wood in our lives and an incredible amount of wood in our lives every day and we've been dependent on trees and forests for a really long time. So understanding all that and then understanding our connection to it, I think I've tried in each one of these to say, at some point, let's be honest, we need forests, forests don't need us. Never let a forester ever tell you that, well, you have to cut these trees because it's better for the forest. No, it's good for us. But we know how to do it in a way that can be good for a forest and can help a forest continue to be productive and for us and for all the other things for us too. So, yeah, but I want you to go whatever direction you wanna go with that. Yeah, I think, to me, as a forester, we have to acknowledge that we make, we are dependent on trees for products and we're dependent on forests for services like clean water, clean air, habitat, beauty and on and on. And again, we don't really, they don't need us, but we're involved. So it starts with that kind of honest like, okay, but let's find a way to do it right. I believe that's built on understanding how forests work and understanding that some places should be just left alone. And so the big picture to me, it's we've used this kind of triad model to call it, which is that think about a big extent of land, say Vermont. You could think maybe some places should just be left alone to be wild and self-willed and whatever they become, forests. And then some places should be maybe even intensively managed in a close and careful intelligent way for these productive outcomes would. And then the vast majority in between should be kind of something in between like very light touch, even more close and careful interactions and I think that's generally our approach here in Vermont is to find, certainly set aside the really sensitive places, that places that are not well suited to access or forestry operations and be really smart about that. And then what's left? Okay, some of these we should just set aside because we don't know everything. People in the future have a right to make some decisions. Let's leave some for others. The rest, let's be really smart about doing this in this again, this close, careful intelligent way, in a local way, based on an understanding of forest ecology. So it's gonna, you need the mix, I believe, and I think it's gonna vary by, the trick is where do we do each of these? And who decides? That is beyond the book. That's for a lot of your expertise. And I think that's where the people come in. We do this as a community, we understand what the big picture is, let's do this collaboratively, listen to each other, learn and make some hard decisions. We have a strong history of private property in the state and that is up and I think that's important. And so everyone gets to decide for themselves, but there's also this sort of commons that the water, the wildlife are everybody's, that's in law, and my trees are mine, and they're linked to the water in the wildlife. So I get to decide, so we wanna do it and whenever I decide it should be done in a way that, I get to swing my fist around, I suppose, and my right to do that ends at the tip of your nose. I think similarly about my wood, so I get to do what I want, but not if it's gonna pollute your water or screw up our habitat. So I think we have to accept that there's this sort of ethic of stewardship and responsibility to be one with the land and to not be ashamed of our needs from the land, but to always be thinking about what we would now call sustainability and how to keep it going. And that's rooted in understanding and in communication and then always trying to improve our approaches and how we do it. Sort of avoiding it, I guess, to some extent, because it's a really difficult question when you think about things like people's property rights and everyone has a different aesthetic and different sensibilities. I think there's room and we've proved it in this landscape, that's why Vermont looks as beautiful as it does today. We're about to enter a foliage time. We're so lucky, it's this annual reminder that we've inherited this from our parents and families and neighbors who've stewarded this land for a long time through active management and care. So I think we have this long history that says we can do this. New challenges, sure. I think the way is to be together, to be thoughtful and to be intelligent about it. I hope that's satisfying. So addressing rather than answering. Addressing, not answering. Yeah, I love it. Others, questions? Thoughts? Yes, sir? Yeah, you had a lot of what we inherited. If you look back 100 to 150 years ago, there was a lot of clear land. Do you deal with the history of that at all, with the fact that it's sheep grazing land? Yeah. So much of it. Yeah, this is so important to understand that what we see out there was not like this. It's changing and we have this incredible history of about 80% almost forced it. Hit point of the 1800s. We were at about 20% forced it. So exactly, owing to an agricultural conversion. Do we deal with it? You bet. I mean, does your book deal with it? Is that one of the, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, well, I would just say it does and I'll touch on one, but I think that we deal with it all the time today because any forest and any given time is an expression of the soils and geology and the hydrology, the sort of physical factors of the local place and the past use of the place. That sets the arc of the trajectory of where a forest will grow and become. So we have a forest today that is heavily impacted by that agricultural past, that cleared past. It's not the same forest by any stretch. It's diminished. There was a massive export of organic material, think wool, milk, hay, and then this massive loss of soil through poor practice. George Perkins Marsh was the first, you know, over-modern who signaled that we got to think about how we're working with this land here. So this land was rode hard and put away wet to be blunt. And yet how lucky are we that it's responded with this resilient forest recovery? I don't know how many times we get to go to that well, so we are dealing with an understanding of that it's been worked and we are lucky to have what we have and we need to think about how we move that forward. That's how we deal with it because it is a profound influence on the health and productivity and composition, the very nature of any forest is its past and we've had quite a past. There is a story in here, an essay in here that speaks to this. And I wonder if you like, I wouldn't mind going at it. We want to hear this one that speaks exactly to this in the book. I'm gonna find it. Yeah, with me. Yes, what did New England's forests look like prior to European settlement? Which is a point that historians point to is like there were native peoples and then that was a big change. So, what did these forests, our New England's forests look like prior to European settlement? Short, that's one of the best things about these, there's a couple pages. Let's do that. What did New England's forests look like prior to European settlement? Nobody remembers. So instead, historical ecologists rely on hints and clues from the past to make inferences about what New England's forests may have looked like before European settlements spread inland and upland from the coast in 1620. Some of these clues remain as actual forests, the scarce few fragments of old growth or primeval or the virgin forests still standing today, about 1% of our landscape. Interesting and valuable as they are, these remnants may not provide an accurate view of the past. After such, they may not, I mean, sorry, as such, they may not be at all typical of the pre-settlement forest. Still, other notions of what those earlier woods look like come from theoretical models and projections based on observations of forest tendencies. Again, these have merit, but they're really closer to guesses than actual evidence. Actual evidence is what freelance ecologist Charles Cogbill, native, resident of Plainfield, Vermont. Actual evidence is what freelance forest ecologist Charles Cogbill and two colleagues from the Harvard Forest were looking for when they explored a completely different set of clues left from the past. They examined evidence left in writing by the first of the European woodsmen to see much of New England's forests. It turns out that the first surveyors charged with dividing up the original towns kept records and notes about the vegetation through which they traversed. Though relatively obscure and widely scattered, these surveyors' notes allow, when brought together, a reconstruction of what New England's forest vegetation looked like at that time. Cogbill and colleagues poured over original records of colonial New England land division surveys. They read through records, notes, and maps from the original lotting surveys in 359 towns between the Andrews Goggin River in Maine and New York's Hudson River, and tallied every mention of a witness tree or other reference to vegetation. They then sorted these 150,000 individual tree citations, checked them, analyzed them statistically before publishing their results in the Journal of Biogeography. As Cogbill explains, we certainly have far less forest today than at Pre-Sediment, and we've added some new species, but still our forests today look in several respects remarkably like those surveyors saw. They were made up of mostly the same tree species as today, but in different proportions, says Cogbill. Some have really come on. Species like popl, birch, and cherry are much more abundant today, and red maple has increased tremendously. Cogbill says that such games have been at the expense of some other species. In the North, beach abundance has decreased significantly, and in the South, oak is far less common today. Cogbill says his study does refute some preconceived notions of the Pre-Sediment forest. Despite its reputation, white pine was not the dominant species, he says, not ecologically. Cogbill thinks that white pine's economic importance and the surveyors' interest in it helped to skew our sense of its abundance. They were looking for it, and it was common in places, but not everywhere. In fact, it was rare on the uplands. It was nowhere near the dominant species. Similarly, Cogbill says that chestnut was not important over the entire region. Chestnut reached about 20% in Southern New England, but it barely showed up in New Hampshire and Maine, and it was even less common in Vermont. And remember that squirrel that was said to have walked all the way from Maine to Mississippi without ever touching the ground? That's a myth, says Cogbill. He explains that even structurally, those earlier forests look much like today's. It wasn't a great expanse of open park of endless giant trees, he says, and it wasn't a deadly thicket either. It was a forest interrupted with many gaps and made up of many mid-sized trees, a few lunkers, that's a technical term. And lots of regeneration due to frequent small-scale disturbances and, more rarely, larger disturbances. Cogbill points out that some of those disturbances were the result of Aboriginal human activities and that, evidently, the average tree in the pre-settlement forest may have been slightly bigger than today's, but it was still in the range of what you see today, he says. Are those survey records a perfect and complete picture of the pre-settlement forest? No, says Cogbill. It's more of a partial snapshot, but it does improve our view of what sort of forest those settlers had to deal with and what they saw on arrival. Improving that view is more than academic. According to Cogbill, it should inform our forestry. Management, like ecology, requires a sense of knowing a place, he says. If you understand its history, including its natural history, you have a better sense of its future. Does that help? Yeah. So what does this mean? We, our forest is different. It's, we've seen species shifts, what, it kind of looks a lot the same, but there aren't these subtle differences. I love this for so many reasons that we have to look past to know the future and that we have models and computers and smart people all over thinking about this. And they went and looked at these surveyors' notes and did the hard work of just kind of saying, what did they see? And then did the systematic and very statistical approach to sorting it and then interpreting it. And again, connecting people to it, the people that did that and then how beneficial it is for us to have this sense of our history and what it means. These are the themes that I continue to try to weave through the work. Others, Kate. Can you just read one of your favorites of the people-woods relationship? Yes, I can, I'm gonna be happy to. I have to find it. Shouldn't it put so many in here, huh? This is a classic, I think. In my experience, listen up. Can your woods be too tidy? A landowner once invited me to visit his property to see all the good work he'd done extending his landscaping efforts from his yards into the surrounding woods. He was pleased with his work and eager for the county forester to see how well he had cleaned up the woods and improved the health of those woods by removing and chipping or burning all that ugly dead and rotting stuff. He thought maybe we could use it as a demonstration site for his neighbors. So I went. And sure enough, that landowner had indeed made some traumatic changes to a few acres of woods bordering his well manicured yard. But I was considerably less enthusiastic than he was and I was at a loss for a gentle way to explain to him that his tidying had done nothing to improve the health of his woods. But in fact, he may have done some real damage to its health. As he showed me around from stump to branch scar, noting with pride how easy it was to walk and see through these woods now, I didn't really know how to say, well sure, but now there's so much less to see. All I could muster was a head mount here and an IC there. Then he gave me my big opening. He told me that before doing all this work he used to see woodpeckers and warblers in the woods, but not anymore. This man truly valued the woods and he enjoyed working in them with the best of intentions. But somehow he had failed to recognize that the full value of all that so-called mess, he had missed the connection between dead trees and woodpecker food, between a dense shrub layer and nest sites for black-throated blue warblers. The conversation that followed wasn't necessarily easy, but now it at least had a new context. He could see his woods in a new light. And by the end of our walk, he had a different work plan for the bit of woods he had to work on the other side of his house. If your only interest is in the neat and tidy and you just can't abide a natural mess, there's really no argument. You certainly are free to clean up those woods. But if you're interested in the health of the land too and if your aesthetic sensibility has room for a bit of death, decay, and disarray, then you'll be glad to know there is a way to have it both ways. It's a matter of blending forestry with traditional landscaping. This sort of management hybrid is sometimes called wood-scaping. It incorporates an understanding of forest ecology, a sense of how the forest functions fully, into landscaping activities. It stresses values like species diversity, the importance of retaining some dead and dying trees, and the need to keep vegetation in several vertical layers instead of just one canopy level. It's particularly effective when applied in those transition zones between a traditionally landscaped yard and the woods beyond. Yes, of course it's nice to see into the woods from the yard and there's nothing wrong with cutting some understory vegetation or pruning some dead branches or even removing a particularly messy timelift down woody material. All of which may be obstructing your view or your walk from your yard into your woods. You just try to leave some of these things recognizing that they're all part of a healthy forest. This hybrid approach can involve all kinds of management activities. Possibilities are nearly endless. It includes thinning to remove disease or unsightly trees and enhance the growth of remaining specimen trees. Or perhaps pruning some branches to improve sight lines and tree stem quality. Removed vegetation might then be locked and scattered neatly on the forest floor. This is important for moisture retention, nutrient cycling, and habitat enhancement for many insects, amphibians, and mammals, and is far healthier than burning and chipping. Woodscaping might also include planting trees and shrubs to add diversity and visual appeal. It might not mean weed-whacking a path of ferns. Or not brush-arging an area of whips and brambles. This modified landscaping approach can involve any or all such activities, but it does so with an attitude. It is an attitude of understanding, or at least a desire to understand, that your woods, even at the yard's edge, are more than something you look at. They are living communities of creatures, each playing important, if sometimes unknown, roles with far-reaching implications for land health in your yard, and for the rest of your life. For land health in your yard, and beyond. These places do not have to be neat and tidy to be healthy. The interaction thing. That was really memorable for me, because it was kind of, I don't know if it comes through, but it was kind of tense. I'm thinking, how do I break it to this guy? He's loving this, and it's wonderfully, he loves it, but man, we have a problem here, and it's very calm. You find a way, you meet him where he's at, you find what he cares about, help him see how that's connected, and he becomes this great champion, and he tells his neighbors, and he demonstrates it. So that's my favorite in that category, because of that. Great? Who's got one? Eddie? What's a witness tree? A witness tree is, think about when land surveyors go and mark lines and corners with monuments, like an iron rod, or a stone monument on a corner, say where lines turn, right, with me. They witness those important turning points with facing trees. So they usually would look for three trees, and they would glaze three stripes on the inside, on the facing side of this tree that faces the corner, that tree that faces the corner, and that tree. Those are called witness trees, so that when someone comes and pulls up the pipe, or, I don't know, something happens, it gets buried in a windstorm or whatever, I suppose that would be tricky. The idea is you still have these backups of the witness tree when you can't find the monument. Many times in the beginning, the monument was on a ground level, you can't find it after a few years of leaves falling branches, but you have the witness trees that witness the corner. That's it. Do we still use that system? Yep, yep. More with flagging now, three bands on each witness tree, sometimes blazing the tree itself, but yeah, it's sort of common practice for Lancer Bayers to witness them, the corners, by blazing the trees that face them. Can I have a little clap? I'd like to say thanks for your interest, for coming out and listening, thinking, asking, and getting into the woods. Yeah. Appreciate it. It's a beautiful time of year to get out there. I just went to Humbert Park yesterday, and it was just, I love this time of year, because it's not too hot. No bugs? Yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. The leaves are starting to change. That'll continue. We know how lucky we are there.  And you see that history of cellar holes, and the plantings, and it all, it's just a great time to be out there, and we're up on that time. So it's always a good time to be in the woods, for sure, but I have to agree. I get excited at this time of year. It's the tree's time to shine, right, when the fall foliage, and again, that's, I think, I hope we see it as, we're proud of it, but it's this reminder, I hope that, man, we are lucky, and these trees give us an awful lot. Just last week, the poet, Sidney Lee, was reading here, and he was talking about sticksies, and how much he loves sticksies. Is that right? Same, similar things to what you were saying. Yeah, gotta be honest, I snapped a little picture out there, and I'm like, wow, I'm in the same thing with Sidney Lee. Yeah. He was talking about the same stuff. Super, thank you.


Hey is my boy. Don't you start bullying my people? Hey, it's gonna. I swear you guys keep them up. Keep it up All right, so it's gonna be this we going to test drive. Okay 2018 Nissan maximum. Okay, okay 30,000 miles I'm just kind of building it up doesn't matter what it is. Okay, but it doesn't have a sunroof. I really wanted a sunroof Evan's like hey Andy. Look, let's do the deal right and I'm like look I don't want to settle without getting all the features Andy you don't look like a guy that would settle you got the most beautiful wife in the world You literally have the most perfect family look and by the way before we even get to it Look, I just want to tell you how much I just think you guys are marriage millionaires The way that I see you with your family and kids.  Yeah, look your wife I know she makes the decisions financially and she would want you to actually have two more thousand dollars in the bank Wouldn't she right right Andy?  So when you go back home, not only did you get a nice car That fits all the other needs for the kids and for her, but you got a nice freaking car Andy, let's make the deal right now. Come on, baby. Come on. Come on Andy. Look. Okay. Come on. All right All right, bring them in Bring them in guys. Everybody do me a favor write down one word Charisma do you guys notice charisma? Oh, can you guys see the sizzle on the steak? Okay, I want to make sure you see it. Okay Listen to me There's a lot of people in this world that came from nothing that learned how to make some sizzle on some steak They learned charisma and they became dangerous. They got me. Okay. All right. You ready? Yeah, wait. Did I just hit you or your brother? I don't know All right, I don't have the time. You can't figure it out. We just run circles around in the office Hey, Andy. Hey, Andy. Hey, Andy. Come on. We got a dealer call. We got a dealer call Hold on get asked this when you guys are watching this right now You guys are like you guys this is silly. No. No, this is how winning is done. Yeah, this is how we work all day long This is how we win think about how many people are sitting in the cubicle at at at the dealership just sitting down sitting on their hands It's slow. You think it's slow when these guys had all day long No, man, these guys are constantly on the spin constantly on the hunt Right, you got to understand that. Okay. Watch the way other people work and think man I can say one thing. All right, maybe we're not built the same but those guys never stop hunting Okay, and to me that's something that I need to learn that's something that I need to take Okay, remember you're not a second rated version of anybody your first rated version of yourself But you steal the things that you know that you need from other people Confidence conviction believability charisma. You see any lackage or shortage about here? No, okay So even if what they say in words is wrong The enthusiasm is enough to still push through on the deal most of times and still make it happen Okay. So all right. So this is going to be me and you going to test drive. We're going to test drive. Okay 2018 Nissan maxima. Okay. We drive the car. I asked for one with the roof. You don't have love it We asked i'm like, hey, you're like, uh All right, you asked me you're like, hey, andy if I get the deal, right? Would you be happy to take it home?  See, come on. Always close it. Hey, let me ask you hold on and I said I don't want to settle Without getting all the options. Hey, I completely understand. Let me ask you How much is that sunroof worth to you? Is it worth three to four thousand in a loan? Look, putting a sunroof in a car cost two to three grand adding a sunroof into the msrp typically cost around the same If you paid interest over the term of a loan for that sunroof and it cost you three to four grand To not have any hair but to you know, not let it flow in the wind Would that three to four grand matter more to you or would the future matter more to you? Now i'm certain that you would probably say the money would matter more to you, right? Yeah, but I like this thing. Yeah, I completely understand. Do you like it more than you like the three to four thousand bucks? I mean because andy at the end of the day what I found is sunroofs can be leaky They can be a little bit hard to maintain. Look, you could be driving down the street Something happens to it. It kind of creates problems 90 of cars aren't built without sunroofs for a certain reason And i'm not saying that there's not a better way that they're not nice They are nice, but would that matter more to you about the three to four thousand bucks? Or would it matter more to you? You know for the sunroof look you don't have a sunroof now You're completely happy you're driving down the street. You have the most beautiful wife in the world So number one I can already tell that you make good choices make a good choice today And I'd say just go with this vehicle right here. What do you think? Okay? All right, hold on All right guys i'm gonna need i'm gonna need to show a hand I'm gonna need to show a hands here, right? Okay, we're gonna vote evan number one. You got to raise your hand guys Okay, evan is going to vote for me. Hey, he's the guy who went first. Don't put karina in the middle of this She's too Ian went second. All right evan show a hand. Come on guys. Come on, baby. Come on guys. Let's go All right, keep them up, baby count. Let's go.  Don't you start bullying my people. Hey, it's gonna. I swear you guys keep them up Keep them up. Hold on. Keep them up. Oh mama's count almost done. Hold on. You got to take my glasses Tell me remember I can count here. I got everybody lunch dinner at top golf later on Okay, everybody.  Who's nice for you in the office jackie thinking about these things jackie Here we go thinking about these things. Listen. So here's the deal There's a couple different ways you guys I want to talk about this because it's important teaches There's a couple different ways to handle. I don't want to settle with I get the features or what But I'm sure that's something here all the time. All right. Yeah, okay Let me explain to you so you can make sure you understand what they're saying here I notice they keep talking about would you rather have that item or a couple more grand cash in your bank account? You hear that keep being said Okay, let's say he comes in. He says he wants a sunroof, right and I'm sitting here with them And I'm like hey, I totally get it. Look man. However, I like what Ian said Ian said look man, there's a reason why they made 90 percent of these without sunroofs Okay, look the reason why is because sunroofs are cool in the beginning. They're fun, right Look moped's are fun to ride the first couple times After a while they get old they start to have problems. Look, there's 15 000 working pieces on the machine 15 000 working pieces on this car one of the most dangerous and and comical comical that's buddy common Pieces to go out is a sunroof and when a sunroof goes out It always takes a couple days in the shop and the warranties on them aren't that long when they're new Your powertrain warranty on your motor and your sunroof are two different warranties Okay, so you don't have the long warranty you think you have because you think your whole car is covered Your sunroof's really not covered that long on our vehicle. So if it was to go out It's a couple days in the shop plus a couple grand to repair And when you hear that couple grand to repair you say, whoa, wait a minute Yes, a couple grand also a couple cost a couple grand to buy So if your payment was 60 higher with the sunroof plus at some point in the next three years You're going to have to replace it to come out of pocket three grand You probably understand why 90 percent of people don't choose a sunroof, right? So why don't we just roll the windows down and choose the one we got right? Yeah, that's a shift You feel me That's what they were talking about when they said look What would you rather have a couple grand in your bank account or a sunroof? Listen sunroof is going to cost a couple grand So if you choose the car without a sunroof you get everything you want and you'll save a couple grand You didn't have to spend does that make sense?  Hey, I want a vehicle with navigation I got to have navigation you do listen. It's 2022 now folks. Look 99 of the people in the world It's a better gps on their phone. Did you know cars the gps on there? They have to be updated every year. You know what it costs money to update the car gps. It does Do you like that? Would you like to own something in every year you have to pay to upgrade the gps? And what if there's a year where they say they can upgrade it? There's a new highway put in you're driving somewhere, but it doesn't show it your phone's always right, isn't it? So don't you think it'd be smarter to get the gps? You already have now which is better and not pay to upgrade for navigation your car every month Guys no navigation. No problem. Use your phone. Let's save money You see what i'm saying guys listen to me. You have to give reasons and excuses why they should do it or why they Shouldn't do it. What are you guys good at doing speaking? That's it


It's just a piece. I want to get an answer to this. I am a farmer, where is it? I am saying, don't try to do nothing. Because I am dangerous. Then next week, I am doing illegal something. Yes, something. But if we are going to be great involved in this, we need to give the ten thousand power to the rest. That's fine. And what is the way to do it? I am doing it by myself. I am doing it by myself. I am doing it by myself. I am doing it by myself. I am doing it by myself. I am doing it by myself. But if I am like, looking back now, I can see a path here. I am going to pass a path.  I don't know how to answer the last question. So, yes, I did. I am 21. Now, I am 13. I am working in an electrical company. So, that period was for years. In 2016, we started to do the productions. It was there. It was a big period. But in 2016, we started a competition. So, how was it? It was fun. It was fun. When I was watching it, it was straight. It was straight. So, I wanted to do a vision. So, now, I was like, which I think we will be having on M next year. Ah, it was funny. It was funny. We will be doing the most fun thing here. Like, there is a really good company, Ipsco. Ipsco Ipsco. She has been the Manchester United football club at me, Splash Recessions since 1968. I think I have a good opportunity. Okay. Your position against your Spanish, your Spanish to the end, that person scares me. I like I just think that I I So, for me, we just come because it's a conscious thing. I feel like I need a better... I need it to be the next layer, that is higher than the last layer. So, there will be an opportunity if we are not able to open it up. It's a... I wonder if we can have a good technology after 16 years in show. No, the only way I should do this is to open up a 4G. Plus! So, all the storage is still in its place. So, now, I'm very... I was the one... No, I'm not. I'm just asking now. So, now, I'm very... I was the one... Are we? No. I'm just asking now. I'm just asking now. I'm just asking now. I'm just asking now. I'm just asking now. Yeah, every time I start a new cycle, yeah, I choose that and nothing happens. But where do I want to be in this place? You know, I don't have a goal, I don't want to do anything. It's quite simple, you know, and we go through it. It's interesting, yes. We colleagues, we friends, we business partners, we talk a lot and we don't exactly speak a lot, but you know, we have activities that can confirm that you're exactly my exact size of a baby because it just doesn't drop out of there. I can't say it to you for years or because I can't say many of them. We show you again, in this kind of... I can't say many of them. I can't say many of them. I stand out as I transition. I can't say many of them. I plan to start working in business then I change costs to be able to study, be able to start working and situate the transitions to being a director. After that, you have to understand things are not happy the way they need to be. I accept the problems somewhere that are creating the director. Then I can accept back to that problem where I was an actor but now I take it to an engineering because it was my first technical character show. You know, it's just if I have to stress for those who are equally of new human energy, being a technical character is such a huge as opposed to being about a show that created everything in business. In a way, I'm sure if you remember shows that have character names like Zuli, one character Mala, a rational Nula, you know, those characters take from another rational painting and its longevity in the memory of so after then I can share again to now be to this day to this day and then finally just before me I had started painting content so miraculously at the time it was a whole money what I wanted to be my tools and things so that I could be able to paint and that is why it was a good way I would normally be forced to be here but also I would follow my journey and then of course I would get up who sees my woman I have been working on her piece she has been working on her piece you see animations when you see a character before it starts running it's two and then once it hits the ground you might want to wear it it's because of the groundwork so all these things that Zuli has to say one is Zuli and you have to be aware of you have to see you have to know from what to know you it's mainly because of that you have to see to your phone your wife all these you have to know to to paint so you have to be here so do you think you are here do you really have a chance to do it now or inside and inside a solution you don't actually want to do it but I have a hope of healing for nine years and it did not work out to me that that was actually my opinion to the owner that's very good when she looked at me this is the thing that we should be doing I was like what when these kids meet when they see you as soon as I left the app for 20 minutes then I'm like I was very relieved I was like this is the thing I learned when I was teaching the scripture the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same It's a 4x5 case, that this guy is able to do it. If you want to do it in the case, it was so bad. If you want to do it in five, it was so bad. If you want to do it in eight, it was so bad. So for the guy who's 4x5, they mean for a fact that this guy is very bad. And why do you just have to buy it? So this guy, yes, how are you doing? I'm good, I'm good. We mentioned that this guy who's writing stats on the whole session, he's the same guy who's spinning nonsense in the whole session. I get why? Yeah. Like, do you have your name? Do you come here? We're here. And people here do not know how to write. Yes. Our experience of this is good, right? Yeah. He's writing in the internet, so I'm going to tell you how I have benefited from all these ideas. They have been very instrumental in my education. So this guy, after the last season of Mr. Ted, they told me, ah, we love what you're doing, but you're not just experiencing that. You want to pay money? Yeah. Sit down and watch him do something that you're doing on YouTube. He didn't do business, because I mean for a fact, I'm doing this thing for YouTube. So why am I judging you, for something that you're still going to do on YouTube? I do not know. But it's not just on YouTube. It was spinning that I was just watching for me and I didn't know what to do. I want to be able to write for you. Yes. This is the thing that I'm going to tell you. The idea that I have in mind is there. Yeah. That's it. You don't have to do this for me. I'm going to be really nice. We've got this kind of conversation. But if I want to change something in you, and this is something I know, we share something that is awesome to see. I want to show you how awesome I am. See? How awesome I am. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. This is the thing that I'm going to do. Yeah. I'm not going to say it, but keep that in mind. Keep that on the set. That's what I'm going to do. Spare the quality of it. Yes. That's what I'm going to do. That's it. Yeah. Before we finish this YouTube, this is the thing that I'm going to tell you. The story is a lie. If you think it's easy, if some of the students have gone out to eat much, throw more pills. Yeah. If you wish, forget that a lot of people are guilty of non-sacrifice. So this audience has definitely been also an important person. This is the justification of the content game that we're going to watch today. Time has been protected by the audience. I have a very good team. I have a very good manager. I've always been the most optimistic manager. So let me check how this thing has become a lie.  It's a total of $7,000. Yeah. $7,000. So I'm going to say, you know, please. I'm such a piece. I'm not going to let you know what to say. I am a man because I'm such a girl, they catch me. You need to keep the 10,000 pounds of this house. You need to keep the 100,000 cents. So who said that you were stretching this house? Him. So it's a little bit different, isn't it? Yeah.  You need to know what's going on. Yes. Yeah, it's a little bit different. My audience has decided to want to see life, to want to continue with the technology and the normal. Yes. So it's all about shows. It's all about shows, yes. So it's a little bit different, you know, because it's a business, it's a social issue. You need to have a sweaters, it's all about... What? This is a little bit different than movies. You have to make movies. Yes, you have to make movies. Yes.  Yes. You have to have a hat. You have to have a pillow, you have to have a chair. You have to have the respect of mother and son. Yes, you have to be the respect of mother and daughter in the family. And the respect of mother and son, because our children don't like looking at the people. Even if they like, This is my third of the week. And I'm not sure what these stages are being built in. You don't have to rely on time in being, exactly. You become an extract in everyone of them. Because they are your brand, standing in the national stage. Are you about to be included? No. Because these are the gifts for yourself. Those who didn't know, it's not for you. You have to rely on something.  You have to have 10,000 hours. You have to have 10,000 hours. Do you need to pay? No, exactly.  His mother, when he got his first born in London, said that he was going to have to be there. He got his first born in London, 23. Now, I want to take you back to that step. Because it's a certain problem, you may not say to be just there, or that you're still there. That's the end of that, at that point. Your next thoughts. Have you been able to, because when you were there, have you been able to use that? Was that also intentional, or is that happening? Has what we had just happened? Did you try to watch this year's phase of being a farmer, at 23, what ended up motivating you to now, going again into this phase? Because, you know, we're going out again, that's why I say that he, at one time collapsed in a shower. Because of what? We're not doing much. We just get stories. At that time, we're not going out again. It was, so, the fact that you became a farmer, actually, contributes to the kind of person that you are and how you need to choose, or needs to start. And that particular life, there really was, I mean, before I was born there, I was doing anything, doing my things to make myself better. That's why I had that policy. So, I was writing, I'll shoot you through there, and if you have no idea about us, you don't have a choice, you have to do the same thing, or just do the correct thing. So, by me, because, you know, it was a very difficult decision to make. But, how can you do all those things? Because, I didn't believe it was me, I thought this guy would be cool, I didn't believe it was me, I thought that he would be nice. I was like, he is not nice. I'm not that kind of person. I don't know anything about it, I don't understand anything about it. He's not a musician, I'm not a musician. He's not a guitar player. A guitar player. He's not a guitar player. I don't understand anything about that. I'm not going to do the work. Please, And that was evidently the same for people who dismayed their life, which is based in the story of my interest in astronomy. And I believe all of the people who have done it was fruit because of their success. So this piece of art painting, because it has to be intentional, and you have to wrap it up with the idea that it's just like building a team. Yeah, yeah. You have no idea what it is. What is 3%? What is 1%? What is 2%? What is 2%? What is 3%? How many is 1%? There are so many ways. There are so many ways to do it. So don't feel like you have to take the gem that I will have taken to get to your vision. You can't take as a gem. You have to take your own gem. You have to learn from somewhere where people can stay safe. There is such a thing as a work that you miss your life and you can't use the future of all of the people. You have to be able to learn from those that are more proud of you. So they have to take something that they do that you learn from. Life is a journey of learning. I'm still learning some very hard truths in the state of life. You have to be able to learn from these stories. If you start a new study, then I don't think you will be able to do that. And to tell a story after, you will guess. You don't know the pain of getting to have your aim that's irreversible. The decision has been taken as a dream that you're not alone because of this behavior. Because of this behavior, it's these tough decisions before we get to the end of the story. So we all use to have plots. This is my table. This is my private plan. This is our annual practice. We have to call it sugar. We have to call it sugar. Sugar, that's the sort of a theory that is personal. And we have to express our thoughts. But we have to be able to express our feelings. Yes. And we have to be able to express our feelings. And we have to be able to express our feelings. Yes. It's the intellectual analogy. It's the intellectual analogy. And it's the analogy. And it's the historia. The original reason we call it the story of our people is the sense of what makes us who we are.


Hey guys, Drew with GeoWarm, and I am back to talk about the M2M MQ03-LTE, and it's wiring into the GE InterLogix Concorde 4 system. Very easy to get this thing connected. It's going to be six connections going back to the panel itself. Prior to doing this, you need to make sure that your panel is completely powered down, of course. The backup battery and power supply need to be removed prior to doing anything on this. Once you're sure that this thing is powered down, then we can go ahead and get this device wired in. So the first thing you're going to notice when I put this in frame here is that I've already pre-wired this. This does not come pre-wired, and you will need to get two strips of wire, one 4 conductor and one 2 conductor. 22 gauge, 20 gauge, 18 gauge, any of those should work perfectly fine. In this case, I'm using 22 gauge 4 conductor and 22 gauge 2 conductor. So I'm going to go ahead and start with the 4 conductor setup here. I've already pre-wired it, as you can see, so the terminals will be wiring into our plus minus DAT1 and DAT2. So those stand for positive, negative, data 1 and data 2. So the first wire we'll go over here is the red wire. I've wired that to positive, or plus. The black wire, I've wired to minus or negative. My green wire, I've wired to DAT1 or data 1, and my white wire, or it could be yellow in your case for your 4 conductor, is going to DAT2 or data 2. Once you've confirmed those wires, you're going to go ahead and move on to the next set, which is the tip and ring. This is where the 2 conductor set is going to go. So I've put the red wire to green, and I have put the black wire to tip. Once you've made those connections, you can go ahead and put this device over to the side, and we're going to work with the other ends here. So let's start with the 4 conductor strip. So on the 4 conductor strip, you can see I've already peeled mine back, so this is pretty much ready to rock in the panel here. So we're going to be going with the black wire to terminal number 3 here. Once you get it into terminal 3, go ahead and tighten that down, and you're going to take the red wire, and that red wire is going to go into terminal number 4. In place, you are going to be taking the green wire, and that is going to be going to number 5. Your white or yellow wire will be going to terminal number 6, like so. Once you have those connections secured in place, you're going to move on to the 2 conductor strip. Now remember, you're probably going to want to pull this wire through a punch out, or through the side, or some other way. I'm not doing it like that, I just wanted to show you guys quickly how to do it. If you do try to wire it the way I am, you won't be able to get the door closed back on the panel. So make sure to feed it through a punch out. Alright, so now the 2 wire setup that we have here. The red wire, that is going to be running to terminal number 28. So once you get it into 28, you go ahead and you tighten it down. And our black wire here, this is going to be going to terminal number 25. Once you have those 2 wires in place, this device is wired correctly to the panel, and you're almost ready to go. Now we need to get our antenna connected, which you can see right here. The antenna is cool because you can put it right on the side and it will magnetize. So very, very neat little antenna. And the last thing that we need to do here is get our internet connected. As you can see, the ethernet port is right there. We're going to take our internet connection and plug it in like so. Once you have it connected, this device is ready to be powered on. And at that moment, you will be ready to give us a call and get this activated. If you have any questions or any comments, please leave them below. Take care. Make sure to subscribe to our YouTube page and click the Show More tab underneath the video where you can view valuable links pertaining to this product, similar how-to videos, and our low-cost, no-contract alarm monitoring services.


It's our first time Well, it was like I got caught up in another project and we both lost track of time What oh well done, what is up a welcome back You like to do it builder make it so do we and we have a new video each week This week Think we have audio This week we're kicking off Halloween with a little Oktoberfest we're starting with some some standees All right, now that we have sound okay, they can all right. This is what we're making these little standees Like super easy. They're so fast They are incredibly fast Like I can stand as tall like mine is super easy. Here's a pretty easy Yeah So many technical difficulties Issues Yes, Gary Just a separate moment Helen's been waiting for an hour me too Helen thought it was at three o'clock to I know it's at four o'clock I got a COVID booster shot yesterday, and I've been out of it today. Yes, I'm out of it I've had like four naps today here. It was like, are you gonna be able to do the live? Oh, yeah I'll pick up for that I think she was literally laying on the couch now with my head in his lab That was like her fourth nap to something was up Usually do two naps Yes, it's also humid and hot It was like 90% humidity. The wasn't raining.  Yeah, it would be a You what's your name kid? Chris says that now Ashley says I mean Yeah, you would have bad COVID You would have the worst COVID. All right, Jennifer. I'm glad you made it All right. Well, I guess we should get started. It's good. I'm started. I'm on it Already separating all my little pieces out And of course it's so easy. I'll tell you the one thing Garrett did for me He brought Showed me the design for the mummy He was like, what about this mummy and looked at him And I said Are you gonna do all those bandages? That Because they'll all be separate pieces like That's gonna be awful How am I gonna keep them organized like just if you guys did the the halloween gnomes on the pits? Those are all separate pieces. Yeah, and they're a little bit of a nightmare Um, well, that is halloween The point right make it a nightmare. Well, yeah, uh, he I ask him could he according was I can't just attach At them all and then he scored them where the where they're attached So you still should see like individual bandage marks, but they're not necessarily So I make this so much. He's He's in like four or five pieces. So yeah, that's not bad. Not bad.  Yeah, I don't have to do all of these I say it's not bad either I had to keep him nice and simple Frank Oh frank and beans Ain't my whole backer black And she said everything Last week Yeah, I finally got to get to Some halloween going Yeah, you know, he's I have a whole folder of like halloween stuff.  I'm using the backer as like the outline. I didn't have to use any frame or Make the pieces look all separate So the backer is black and then you just paint all of his bandages white But use a dental hand So you don't get inside the score mark I brush I get it You know, I'm surprised how well the cardboard versions turned out Like the score marks and stuff actually kind of work on video This can tell that these Yeah, that's how we did our test cuts I was like, yeah, they go together. Great Can you help me paint them?  That's wet You're on a sabotage real early I mean, you're just right out of the gate with your sabotage I'm just making it so you can see and keep your eye on I feel you Stand with you Or claiming On the top of that I'm gonna go with this African violet for a suit Yeah, I think that's what I used it I'm gonna roll it though and roll with it Is that this one? Perhaps as she's on the second round of COVID Oh, really? It's miserable. Oh, I heard you can get it twice Oh, thanks. I don't want it once Favorite Oh, good question Oh, which one is my favorite? Mine is the mummy. Yeah, I am definitely Oh, your mummy? Yeah I thought Frankenstein was your favorite Oh Frankenstein I was gonna say I think we're painting our favorites Oh, yours is also the mummy? Yeah Oh, nobody likes Frank. No, Frank What's your favorite? I love Frank What's your favorite now? And then I'll ask you again at the end like They're all done Yeah, after they're all done I think Frank is adorable because These are so simple that we might be able to stay within our one hour self-imposed time constraint I won't be in a hurry today. Are you guys in a hurry? Yeah, I won't be in a hurry Oh, now I'm in a hurry Why? Where are you going? I don't know You guys know I've got things to do Guys, some of you guys remember why I've been in a hurry I didn't say it last week because I wasn't self-out, but I'm self-out because Oh, putting yourself on the spot Why asking? Oh, putting yourself on the spot That's what I do You do You share too much You like to share my stuff and your stuff Yeah A share or what should I say? Just a share machine I have been doing weight watchers So those weight watcher meetings By six o'clock Are on the opposite side of town So we have to go through downtown Out to the suburbs We're kind of in the suburbs up north I mean, we have enough time We have to go super far south of town There is always some sort of Yeah, on Tuesday always Every Tuesday there seems to be traffic Yes, I'm trying to get there by six o'clock Which means we have to be done by five So that we can log out and then pretty much leave Anybody knows Kim She's always like 30 minutes late for everything So whatever she's telling you Add 30 minutes So if we have to leave here by 5 30 It really means we should be leaving at five Well, that's what I've been doing At five and get out of here Time to make it And most of the time I don't Well, you know, it didn't make it last week No, well, that was a week before There was like a rainstorm It was storming out And Mike's Oh, you're good Back in there Keep an eye I'll keep an eye on your back All the backseat Really? Yeah, where are you hanging out? Yeah, yeah, sir Hang in it Stop hanging out in the COVID tense Can't hang out in the COVID tense Yeah Going to the COVID conventions Right, it was total sabotage You see it happen weekly You see this sabotage happen weekly That was Jason I feel like he's got your back every time Thank you, Jason Jason does have my back Jason's got a keen eye He should be one of those people that watch the The card players in Vegas Oh, yeah Because you're pretty sly about some of your sabotage moves As the sabotage I gotta flip these These are gonna I guess that makes me the Rube Stand Yeah, they're gonna stand So I need to paint both sides Give them a second to dry on them Oh, I forgot to paint mine Also So she's trying to paint but this way But all cracks and much paint on the roller It is a learn skill It's not a learn skill Look, it's even getting better Look, I tell you how you're making it so much drier than you Because I hate cleaning up the edges Yeah, it's not a learn skill It's patience It's just patience and using paint and moderation It almost bit me At least it's time, Garrett, in the painting Right, Lillie Don't think I didn't think about that before we decided Don't think I didn't think about that I was not doing that much painting again That was too much and too much with that little makeup spot I was in too deep I was in too deep But I couldn't let go Yeah, you weren't letting go I agree I was too far Go fish I didn't grab myself Hey, can I have that black roller on it? Finish I forgot to do my hair Jason wants to have any sheets of it Yeah, do we Oh, this one Blow Forge boards? I think it's two It took two Blow Forge boards So we did But on the laser it takes I don't know, these are 18 inches tall Yeah, well that one actually That one was cut on the blow boards The cardboard one was cut on the blow board Yeah, cardboard one And they're 16 inches They're a good size too This was 16 And these MDF ones that we're painting now Are 18 I'm going to bring it back Because somebody asked me before On things like this Where I do have this space cut If you ungroup your file Like if you shrink this file down to 16 But this was meant to fit like quarter inch You can ungroup it And the slots are separate And you can adjust the slot width And then group it back together and cut it I left all the slots separate So you can shrink it way down Or make it out of eighth inch Or make it out of cardboard You can make it out of Tough crust Are you now going through all the materials That you can make it out of? Yep Oh, is it? This movie fit Yeah, it is jiggly All right, well that's great feedback Go ahead I'm going to put it on something Since I am almost done over here I don't know what you're doing That's what you are Yeah You're like Minds Eve What a good time That's what I'm checking out Thank you, Ellen It is a good time We always have fun What would you sell these for? You haven't really thought about that yet Were you or not? Three magic beans What would you sell it for? How much? Two to math One of them How many can you get out of? I can get one whole one out of a fifth of it One little guy Yeah, the whole thing Whole gym jam You can only get one of them out of a fifth of it Oh, like probably one and a half out of a fifth I don't know, we'll have to ask Tanner Tanner, if you're watching Tanner Please come to the front Tanner, please come to the front office Sometimes what? Tanner won't be able to tell you It can be based on how much What do we use? Yeah The painting part is pretty Then I use this little calculator I use material cost plus cut time And then I factor in $12 an hour for cut time Because that's how much it would cost me If I were to pay the lowest paying person I could find What else? Yeah, materials Cut time And then I add like 30% Whatever my calculator Is this just the calculator you found on Pinterest? Yeah, it was the calculator I found on Pinterest Yeah Oh, there he is Here comes Tanner Oh, Tanner's at the front office Here he is Oh, sir How much material does one of these take to cut? Yeah Out of a fifth of a sheet? I don't know I got both Oh, both fit on one fifth of a sheet Oh, okay So it fit on a 24 by 48 Yeah, okay Oops Put my paint on Did you just sabotage? Abotage No, I sabotaged her He just touched my paint That's great What's good for the goose, Kim? What's good for the goose? Yeah All right Well, that makes them So they would still be the cost of a regular door round Yeah, they're about the cost of a regular door I think I Finished? I would say they I think when I put them in the store Oh, am I going to sell them for $4? No Well, I think I forgot what I put them in the store for I think it actually turned out to be like $20 For a door round Normally I could have that But that was sweet Because after being She was So I used the calculator and put them in And it was like $20 Something like that So Not too bad And you can shrink them And do the feet I think they would work at 12 This guy is 16 I totally think he works I don't think I've seen the 18 inch version Oh, we're going to see the difference Oh Different Two inches make Yeah Could make it or break it And you were talking about the sizing Sixty Sorry, we had some more questions Oh, yeah I'm missing Did I vaguely answer? What would you sell them? I don't know What color purple is I am using African violet It is a great Purple for Halloween We use it on everything at Halloween time Yeah, it's like our Frank's Red Hot of And just to this season And when it's outside of the Halloween But that and then the other You're going to see darker purple That is And we use that one a lot too That one's a great fall Doing anything with fally Fall colors It's getting better at talking and painting You should see me like chew gum and walk I've got that pretty much nailed to I mean I need some more practice at it But I am getting pretty good at it I mean I don't want to toot my own horn Because I'm chewing gum But I'm getting pretty good at it Is that better? I don't know, we're about to find out I think it's really good Thank you Yeah, thank you It's all about Kim Come right here It's all about That's what I hate I hate bulls Can't stay wet It was a few weeks Stay Two or three, three, three or four weeks I'd say close to It's about a month in that Now I just got mine I double Top of the Keeping it Keeping it chinny Beautiful I don't want them looking down my shirt Renee made her second lie What's up Renee?  Uh oh, you guys a lot Uh oh Now what? Oh, did you put paint on it? No, I just put paint on it Is it under your paint plate? Look at that A regular shirt All right And I'm using, what is this? Lime, electric lime Is a skin All the skin pieces No, not on the big lasers I do not tape it Before I cut Because I hooked up An air compressor With the tank on it So I'm pushing out a little more PSI I run about 20 PSI Through my air assist And it leaves the top pretty much burn free Where are you going now? Somebody said it was awfully burnt Yeah, I could Yeah, don't kick the uh Don't kick the mics on the way back I hope that isn't too hard Close the shades Now I can't see the traffic goodbye I'll never know what's going on If an ambulance or fire truck I'll have to just make up a scenario in my head Like I would know if I could see them pass All right, is that better? A little less glare Feels so far away It's our face Blue piece Love the colors Love the purple Yeah, I think that's what gets me The colors of Halloween Thanks, Bob Well Move forward Oh, I got new mics Right, now The coat Like this is so simple And then for his eyes You can't see them Just gonna do those and all Yeah I'm trying to keep the dabbing down to him In a moment Man, I can't believe I started painting black And something that I gotta make white Here, hand it to me and let me go ahead and Because it's gonna take a couple coats to fix it Oh, I'm gonna work on white next So Give you Hold the door Hold the phone Just what are you doing? What are you? Sabotage what you're doing I, well, you got stuff to do Thank you There, help me Thank you for your help Well, you came over here to sabotage me Oh Oh, I got a lot Oh, I was too concentrating on not going over the edge And over the edge Man, just go I'll give this one away I'll just hand it to somebody on the street You know what? Is John gonna be mad at me? What markers do you have over there? Oh, here's your white I need to do like, silver Silver and gold No Silver and A different color Hey, hey, do you have Go fish Great, perfect Mark, are you know where they are?  I feel like that's a popular favorite color What's your favorite color? Are we, we heard purple? No, I'm cutting out Oh, it's me You Might be the way it's fitting Try this again You're hanging it off of like Your hair Flip it in I'm wearing this t-shirt Is like not my t-shirt Like an XL Your shirt All right, I hope that wasn't too loud But I flipped it around Maybe it'll stop rubbing as much I can see the batteries on So that should be okay All right, let's see if I keep cutting out Yeah, the green and purple together is perfect It is It's a technical difficulty day I know Yeah, it's been technical difficulty day Everywhere all day today Like Man, that is not the green that I I think I'm about done With his eyes What is this little inside mouth pieces?  Like I'm barely pushing You do That's gonna take a long time to draw Oh Poppycock I will do something to speed up the drawing Should I use brown for his shoes? No, that's gonna be two There's another color brown The darker brown Yeah Really? I like how you Match the shoes And his lapels In the ample version And I like how the lapels Were darker purple Than the actual suit This on opposite Yeah Sound is much better Thank you I'm happy to hear that Better Much better Oh good Oh good Yeah I moved it I hooked it around So I think it was rubbing up against the skirt Look at the back of his teeth Oh, I have his teeth white Should his teeth be yellow? Yeah, I mean What kind of dentistry does a mummy get?  Was that a slip? Looks like you need some more green No, I'm good Put another coat of green I'm on it Does he need another coat of green? Oh, yes Do you think so? Yes I'll let you do that Can you do it without sabotaging it? Or do you want to paint his shoes? I have shoes Think about these light colors Like this lime green We use a really bright, happy yellow That's called Cheerful Those always take a couple of coats And a lot of times we will go ahead and paint The base coat of these white And then add the lime on top of it Because it's fewer coats And it keeps that lime just a little bit brighter Keeps it popping Same thing with orange We use that knockout orange I didn't do it on my pieces But same thing Bleach here Oh, those aren't cheek pieces Those are his eyeballs Oh, eyeballs Do they look like cheek pieces?  Like that mature grate You're just gonna get all those Look at his little appels on his jacket That's so cute Well, now I feel like his lapels pop now He feels a little more dapper The poppin lapels Lois says you could paint the two teeth gold Like gold crowns The only teeth that didn't fall out Ooh, true He was a pharaoh Good of a... Yeah, well, they're a... Goldish yellow You know what we can do? We can go get that gold Lake Press it on there Pick it up a whole little bit Yeah, sometimes the thing with Garrett Is he likes to get Too much realism I'm like it's craft projects Supposed to be poppy, crafty Like that's not how his feet really look Yeah, that's not how his feet really look The perspective's off, Kim And when he makes new designs I have to tell him that too Cartoon it up Yeah, you gotta cartoon it up Like the bees started with realistic looking Like hornets Yes, yes Like cartoon those up a little bit You want happy bees Like put their bees Fine, I'll go find a cartoon bee And I couldn't find one I ended up drawing it Yeah, look at that Those score marks really show you Exactly where to put this thing Perfect Do a little touch up on them I think I'm done Oh man, I got... And I think I'm done Done painting My glue down will be Lickety split Did you put another coat on us? What's this hand? His hands Oh, great thing Teamwork, Kim Teamwork Makes the dream work, Garrett As long as one of us isn't a mole That doesn't even mean Saboteur Right, I think I am done painting What is this doing? That goes this way? Goes this way? Got two feet Oh Oh, well, I don't have two sets of toes Okay, yeah That was... No, I have two sets No, I didn't get rid of any Why? Oh, here, here they are Okay, what did you ask for? I'm sorry White roller Sea The white Roller All right, guys, can you... Get her better over It's too far away Yeah, well No, I don't know what to put it on The table was big like Put it on Just don't lean on us Stop trying to lay on the table My natural hand Find a different... Oh, what if I took it off of that thing? You guys like how he's going to go fix this right now? He's left the room Probably shouldn't have said anything White roller Back Because I stuck my finger in it All right, back to his bandages here I am excited to show you guys how his little standing feet thing works I think it's going to be pretty steady sturdy Like less likely to fall over in the Okay, it's okay I love how that's... That one's on while you're doing it Well, it's kind of high How's that? You guys, bear with us Ridiculous And wiggle the table Like I said, we can fix this You know what we could do? Have one like right over us That like See for a minute Mother-in-law They say what pink colors they've used Opulence, purple, rustic charm, green Yes, those are the country chic colors If you have the country chic paints Those are the colors That rustic charm is your bright green We're using that exterior house paint For these, I guess we could have used the country chic Because it'll probably be indoor items But if you're outdoors You're going to want to use that outdoor paint Give them a little more Yeah, those country chic paints in that suit Pretty, pretty close To the stand Upper piece Far away That's the funny thing about the workshops We'll start out sitting and then It doesn't take long and they're standing there Working on their projects That really dark red you Barely even today Fill them up Go get it Keep talking I will not turn my mic off So I do not have to put it back on I need that red marker right over there There, let it go my friends Let it go But they can't watch me Go? That's a good view Just need to get it closer Got glue? No, it's almost like the only time I glue it All right, I'm going to put his other set of feet together You guys can't see me But I've actually done this part before Two sets of feet because they interlock Yeah, Kathy says she can't sit and paint I know, I know All right, when I paint during the day I paint at the standing table out there And I don't think any of us actually sit and paint Just I even when I make bows I stand to make the bows Until later in the afternoon And then I'm like, all right My back is killing me I sit down for a minute Been in bowtown for a while Bowtown That's what we call it I thought you were the mayor of bowtown I am the mayor of bowtown When we make bows on Fridays For the signs that were taken to craft shows Or farmers markets She is the mayor They're like, all right, you need to go to bowtown Where's the mayor? There's the mayor All right, I'm missing some toes Oh, man I keep sticking my Nope, you keep doing what you're doing You got carry your own drama over there I'm reading my hand For the future What's our time check? 452 All right Yeah, what time is it? Oh, really? Yeah I'm just about done I like how you keep saying that As he just keeps saying it He's just gonna make it true Just about done I'm found a glue down Glue downtown We're gonna die Well, while you're glueing I can do the back side of these Some a second time How's Garrett's toe? I missed the zoom So I didn't know if it was better Oh, yeah He is Why are you asking? Because Kim doesn't Oh, no, Tyra Let's find out how's your toe, Garrett You're pretty good You're pretty good It's healing It must be doing pretty good Because the swelling is down He hasn't said anything about it He hasn't It's almost back to a regular color I'm not a big complainer Although I've been complaining about this Clover shot Yeah You know She was grumpy this morning too So not only have I been tired but I don't have you guys had like my Lymph nodes under my armpits Feel like I have little golf balls under there They're so swollen I read that it was a common side effect So I hope everything's okay I remember it happening last time But just a little bit This time it's worse than it was last time Oh, really? Yeah Oh, man, I just blew it in my hand Possible to just an outline And cut two pieces instead of multiple You mean make the black Justin says on the mummy Is it possible to just make an outline But two instead of multiple? Well Yeah, I could have joined it in some pieces Yeah, you can see his leg I guess is slid a little Yeah Or the gap then I could have made it one piece I might Yeah, I'll make it one piece It's easier It's actually three One piece But remember, this is test cut Tuesday This first time I've cut it out of MDF Might be some adjustments This is wide enough to go through two Got to find out Did you make sure to avoid the hole For gluing the pieces down Slot in the middle Yeah, I didn't go over it Don't you mean? Yeah, I know, leave that open He's okay for now It's mine This one is Yeah Got these Why, is yours taller?  I'll have to up the curfing a little bit on those Give a little more space Well, he's so great Got some thumb prints on my base Because I keep touching it You guys can kind of see Overhead view Look at how cute he is coming together He is so cool I don't know man I think I might like Sign them You tell you put the little sign on Yeah, I went to hand me the trick-or-treat letters I can start gluing those Can you read? I'll do it Oh I can get it Yeah, the sign I'm gonna leave those buttons white I think you had them Gold or something a silver I think those would be good I'll we do it after the fact Oh, you know what happens when it's glue time We get quiet Yeah, because I get like super concentrate Like Oh, I glue it Trick-or-treat letters Yep, there you go Tyrus and Scott, you will never leave this down You will We gotta keep it going Never forget UI Kathy wants to know $5 patrons get the SVD Once a month, I give you the SVGs The $20 people get whatever pops into my head $20 patrons get all the SVGs The $5 patrons get one a month Yeah, one a month And then it's You know, he doesn't Just picks a cute one Yeah, I pick a popular one Or a project file I don't know why I'm so particular About the little things there Because I'm about to cover them up Sign Oh, yeah You cover it with the buttons up Yeah Got buttons on his jacket that he doesn't need I left that because No, I left it because Who knows Yeah, what if I want to put like The sign up a little higher Make them like a pen Something's a foot This is a foot Frank is so cute My grandkids and I For Halloween Last Halloween Yes Seems Since Christmas Jason says it's definitely worth the $20 In my opinion I agree I agree Got to use the tips Tricks All right, I think he's dry And I think all my pieces Now this is why I kind of left the sign Like Look at him He is so cute Now you can kind of put the sign Anywhere Hold it low Hold it creepily Look Like they're not I guess it doesn't look like He's holding it over Clearly it goes right there Where his arm All right, where his arm Lois says the Zoom calls make it worth the $20 Yes, the Zoom calls are Definitely fun and entertaining But here's what happens on the Zoom calls You guys get us going Everybody's chit-chatting And before I know it I'm unable to watch any TV for the night Because we spent two hours chit-chatting Yeah, I told you guys on the Zoom call If anybody here that was on the Zoom call I was like, hey, Garrett's going to help me do my hair When we get off the phone Oh, yeah, we were on the phone so long We never got to the end We never, look, you can see it's not pink Oh, here it is right now It's shades of pink It's faded pink Careful, picking him up yet You know, we just show what the Time fell off Let me get you the accelerator You want to try the accelerator And see what it does Free that It might be done by the time you get back with it Well, I wanted to show you Who it is You ever get those off the feet? Oops Are these mine? Why are some of these grumpy? Is this from mine? Yes They're my hot steppers over here I think I'm going to have to Yeah Oh, maybe not Maybe it's just you over there Who's Oh, and that's where it lives Delirator All right, do you think the sign is High enough? You put it out here?  Time check Five oh eight Ah, we almost beat We almost beat Oh, Lois wants to do a witch with these Totally Okay, Lois All right, I'm making a witch I'm going to make a witch one Yeah, I'm totally making a witch Okay All right, gotta go I'll put the file up tonight And I'll adjust your feet Make sure they slide a little easier Slide in later Paint on there Yeah, I think I'll just adjust it Just so it's not so tight Give you some paint room Mine worked out fine now This guy I could take him around town Yeah, he's a beast Look at him He's like my buddy You and Pocketsaw You Frank and Pocketsaw Me and Frank and Pocketsaw Heading to the bar That's it Each guy's there All right, well, we are about out of time We have to go We are out of time Because of Kim's self-imposed timeline So we will see you on Friday Or we'll do it building and make it again We have a good one this Friday I know I say that every Friday But this is new for us It's a whole new thing It's a whole new world It's new It's new for our world Whole new world of materials Might not be new in your world But we haven't done anything with it before So yeah, I've never done anything New materials Kind of scared of it But I'm ready All right Thank you guys Big thank you to our patrons We love you guys I can't scroll you right now Because we're live But you know I think we're far over here All right