Hi there. My name is Denise Cooper and today I'm here to talk about change agency for open source program officer people or Ospo people as we say before I leave this intro slide I'm going to point out that my Twitter handle is up there at the right in case you were live tweeting for me and the advance to the foundation for the opportunity to give this talk. Alright, so in the last slide and in this one you'll notice that one of these things is not like the others. I think that's how most people that work in open source program offices feel inside their companies, because we're typically doing something different than the rest of the company doing. And so it requires kind of a different mental attitude and in a different approach in general. But I'm going to be advocating not just to do your Ospo work, but to do work that actually pushes in the direction changing the culture or the practice inside your company, because it makes your work so much more interesting, but it is also kind of the reason that we're there. So open source is something that unites us. We believe in transparency. We believe in massive peer review. We believe that this way of working is the better way of engineering and we also believe in contribution and generally in leaving the campground a little bit better than we found it. But in order to be that person in a corporation that has different beliefs, you have a lot of intestinal fortitude personal ability to carry your beliefs forward, even in the face of criticism sometimes. So right now the world on fire, and this is a better time than ever before to be a change agent because changes on everybody's lips changes wherever headed. People say that in my experience revolutionary change is rarely as effective as evolutionary change, but you kind of need both you need the revolution and then you need the years after it to regroup and institutionalize that change before the next revolution. What we're seeing right now is another step in the path to fixing some historic wrongfully. And here I'm talking of course about black lives matter not about. But interesting that they're happening at the same time. Most of the tips I'm going to give you will serve you through any kind of crisis, global or local, but it's just, let's just acknowledge that this is a great time to be a change agent. Most people think that leadership is identifying the shortest route to the change that you're trying to get to, and then leading the company down that straight path, but even some of the most famous institutional change agents couldn't do this. So for instance, Steve Jobs had real ideas about how the new Apple was going to work, but getting a whole company full of people to do exactly what you wanted them to do is a trick, you know, it takes a while. So for most people this this path is not nearly so straight.  So you can see the course, you can see the turns coming, but the combination of velocity and that day's condition, your condition as an athlete, means that every turn so just a little bit exciting because you might fall out of control. And it might really look like you're out of control a lot of the time to the outside world. So think of your job not as not as leading down a straight path towards a glorious future but more like dodging those curves and getting to the bottom of the hill in one piece. That's a little more accurate for change agents. Now, the Ospo as a construct started out as a thing that lawyers did. And those of us that weren't loyal, but we still worked in the Ospo we were kind of like clerks to the lawyers. And it was around fear of open source and a desire to control the effects on the company. These days, most Ospo's are not that anymore. In fact, we always kind of, we were more like this. We're sort of, you know, boldly going into a new future. And we're also very good looking and multicultural. But this is in our heads. This isn't necessarily how we're seen by the rest of the company, right? Although leader of an Ospo it's great to cultivate this feeling within your team. So there's the job of, you know, flying the Starship and there's it further. The icons represent for Ospo efforts, some of them older, some of them newer, where an open source program office got together to actually affect change in the world. And that's kind of what I'm advocating for in this talk. So I'll go quickly through them. The one in the lower left there that is the Google summer code, which was started by the open source program office at Google. It was definitely a step beyond what they what their remit was the right idea that they could kill a bunch of birds with the same stone. They could increase people's goodwill towards Google in the open source community. They could increase the size of the community by mentoring students into famous projects. They could get some work done for the projects. They could preview potential employees by watching how those kids were working this summer of code interns were working within those projects. So it just ticked a lot of boxes. Now it wasn't the smoothest road in the world. They got it all established and started and then they realized they didn't know how to pay people around the world and they had to sort of do that in real time. But that's that's an Ospo embroidering on the regular path. And it's my favorite example, but these others are great. The robot one that's outreachy. And that of course originally out of the GNOME foundation, which isn't exactly an Ospo but most open source foundations are kind of like large independent Ospo's in a way. So that stormy Peters realizing she could have an effect on the diversity of open source from where she was sitting just by launching a program. And again, it started small and grew over time and is now quite famous. The one in the upper left that is the to do and that was a group of Ospo's getting together to write down what they were doing that sort of best advice best practices for how to run a corporate effort. And before they did that work there weren't a lot of roadmaps for people that were finding themselves suddenly. So that was very valuable work. And then the last one with the mask on that is FOSS responders and that was started very recently by my former colleague, Dwayne O'Brien, and some other folks who noticed that open source projects would be negatively impacted by the inability of the conferences, for instance, and some other difficulties are rising from the pandemic. And so they raised a fund, and you can apply to it if your project has run into trouble directly because of the. So there's four examples for you of people sitting in their Ospo's thinking about how to change the world, right. This is the one that I have been working on for the last five or six years. I started it while I was at PayPal running their Ospo. This is my own personal version of the logo for Inner Source. Inner Source is the source methods as regular engineering methods inside proprietary companies. I didn't invent that I definitely resurrected it from relative disuse. And this talk isn't really about that, but I am making the point that I myself am a person who wants to do more than just run the Ospo. And so here's a quick view of Inner Source Commons. If you're interested in looking into it, this is a nonprofit that we set. We started last year as we were disassociating ourselves from PayPal and becoming more of our own thing. And if you're interested in buying open source methods inside of companies, this is a great place to start. You can also start by the information I'll have on my last slide. But back to being an Ospo change agent. At some point, you're going to have to dive off the cliff. There's going to be a moment when you're comfortable when you're taking a risk and you feel like you're taking a risk. But it also is going to make you feel you're alive. It's probably worth saying your appetite for personal risk in your job before you take this jump, because you don't want to find out that you can't handle after you jump, right. So spending a little bit of introspective time, maybe sometime looking at your finances, looking at your prospects, one of the pieces of it that I always give to change agents is always be interviewing. Even if you're not planning to leave the company you're working at, even if there are good reasons to stay, it is worth knowing you could leave if everything fell apart. It helps make you braver, right. So, first of all, think about your own personal assessment of risk. And this is a standalone module that I often offer if this is of interest to you contact me and we'll talk about how I can spend with you on this step. Then you're going to have to go looking for air cover. So air are people who are more powerful in the company. And they will help you fight the battles that you have to fight at the top with their peers, people that are that are being obstruction obstructionist about the change you're trying to affect are usually coming from a place of misunderstanding or fear and they will often listen to their peers more than they will listen to you. But you may also occasionally order to make an omelet you have to break some eggs and it's really handy to have somebody you can appeal to who is going to keep you from the chopping block. I will tell you that for the entire time that I worked at Sun until well I was a year or so for five and a half of those six years, somebody tried to fire me every quarter, every quarter. And it was usually a lawyer, but some as a VP or somebody else, and it was super helpful that I was on walls into your office basis with the top lawyer with the CEO with a VP in my own division and in a few other divisions, those friendships that those connections mean more than. So I highly recommend that you find some air cover also handy for getting budget because those people always have budget and you can often get pieces of it from them. But then you also have to think about the ground cover. This is a famous grand cover called red clover that is useful for fix region in your depleted field. But I want you to think of each of those little flowers as an individual person who is at your level or maybe below your level in the company and is interested in the change that you're trying to affect because they can see that it's going to make their lives better. This is a real phenomenon and in fact I know of at least one of these guys who completely changed a Fortune 80 name brand company on his own. And I'll talk about how later it's possible to be a ground link and change the company it's just more lift. But if you're in an Ospo you're not a ground link you're you're perceived as a manager at least a middle manager. And so you want to bring these people along with you because they're going to be your willing helpers as you enact change. There's the middle. I've been reading I read a lot of books about management as people you know develop thoughts on it. This of the frozen middle is thinking about what the role of the middle manager is most middle managers are working hard to maintain the status quo. Usually they're very interested in keeping the people that work with them employed but they're also just naturally more likely to try to defend the current castle than to embrace the change that you're talking about. Now it's not a blanket statement you will find middle managers who will be helpful to you but you're more likely going to have to work around or through them with the help of your air cover and your ground cover. And I've been accused of maligning middle managers unfairly. But my experience is they mostly see your projected change as a dumpster fire coming their way. The I had people in tears when I started talking about open sources son claiming that I was changing the companies that were not going to be useful and even today sometimes people accuse me of helping to kill son. I will tell you that I gave a keynote at North American Apache con last year and he said two really important things to me. One was I was the front row. So he really was just talking to me. One was that in fact son was it's most efficient from a software value capture perspective after they'd open sourced everything because they stopped fooling around with bullshit licenses and started just writing straightforward support contracts, which made a lot more sense and turned out to be profitable. The other thing was if we had not open sourced everything that wasn't nailed down at son, it would all be lost now because at least that was James's feeling. He said we wouldn't have Java now if we hadn't done it. And he thanked me because he fought me while while it was going down. He didn't really want it to happen but now he sees it was a good thing. So be aware that these people are going to be pushing back from a real place of concern and you have to honor their concern, but you also have to find a way around them. And I will admit a personal bias when I see a picture like this. I don't think about the miles that lava flow traveled through farmland and housing and forest. I just see new earth being built. I love that this process is so generative. But if I was a farmer or I owned a house that was in the path of that lava, I'd be very focused on that destruction. And so, you know, it's two sides of the same coin and you just have to honor them. One way to mitigate concern is to treat everything scientifically as an experiment. And I'm really serious about this methodology. You want to choose a small experiment that is likely to be controllable as in not going to get out of hand, but you want a hypothesis, you want to write it down, you want to set up an experiment that proves your hypothesis. And you want to measure the things that feed into that proof. You don't want to exhaustively measure every aspect of what happens, although you do want to note the unintended consequences that happen because they're part of the story. And then after a certain amount of time, you want to revisit original hypothesis and evaluate what you learned in this experiment and then pivot and do another one. This step approach has a way of containing your risk, although eventually you're going to have to dive off the cliff, but you can learn a lot by working in this way and you can do a lot to prove to your company that you're doing the right thing. And what you want to prove to them is the value that you're creating by doing this new thing. Are you saving them time or can you see how saving them time is going to be part of the practice? Are you saving them money or are you creating new value? Did you innovate in a way that's going to get more money that they wouldn't otherwise have gotten? Did you do quality in a way that makes the consumerians better? All of these things are value that can be created in one of those experiments and you want to package that up and evangelize it to both your air cover and your ground cover and to the middle managers if they'll listen to you. But really it's your air cover and your ground cover that you're trying to sell these ideas to. One more thing that often you find when you start doing change, which is that your newest employee, your intern employees love suddenly having this agency happening, gives them hope that changes are coming in the company to make them more comfortable because they're typically not super comfortable with the way that corporations work and why would they be? I mean it's over many years and it's usually pretty weird, right? So if they decide to leave because they see no hope of change, then you've wasted the time that you spent recruiting them and training them. So it's better not to have that happen. This becomes a real value that you can quantify. And then of course there is the famous outside-in marketing, which I used a lot at Sun. This is where you take the ultimate risk of saying something publicly that your company didn't approve because you want them to be the popularity of that message reflected back by the public. It's a really risky move, but it can be really, really powerful. And as I say, I'm a big advocate of it, but I also knew ahead of time that I could survive if I got fired. So I suggest again you do that assessment first, right? And then last and maybe most importantly, you're not going to get the same validation that regular employees get. It's just the nature of change agency that they like to shoot the messenger. And you're going to find yourself not doing as well in your reviews. I often tell people to get the best deal they can going into a company because it's really hard. It's a long road at that next piece of recognition. Remember I said that somebody tried to fire me every quarter for five and a half years? Well, in that last six months I started to notice that the people that used to try to fire me were suddenly claiming credit for all of the risks that I had done and taken. And it really hurt my feelings for the first month that I noticed it. And then I realized that it would have meant was that I was winning. If I had not had the internal compass, the internal navigation, my north star to say, I know that this is a good change that I'm enacting here. It would have been a long five and a half years. And so you have to have that animus inside you and know that you're doing the right thing. And it's helpful to have friends, it's helpful to have an association like our friends to do. But at the end of the day it's on you to keep yourself happy and to know that you're heading in the right direction. And believe me, it will come. As I was leaving Sen, they offered me a vice presidency. I would have gone, you know, director to vice president skipping a lot of steps. Now I decided not to take that path and went on another path. But it will come if you keep working and keep reporting that value back and work forward as much as you can. And it's a totally rewarding journey. So I hope you will undertake it. Now I think we have time for just a few questions. So I am going to go ahead and let the conference put me on live screen. And let me just give you a one last screen here. This is my information. And also if you were interested in that inner source thing, if you go to that URL you'll find a lot more about it as well as well. So let's go to the questions. Great. Don't see myself yet. There I am. Hi there, those of you that are here. I am very happy to continue to answer questions. The ones that I've gotten so far, I got some love for the event, for the talk. So thank you for that. And also got some queries about whether the slides will be made available. And they will, if they're helpful to you in particular.  If I could have asked, I will have, we have think about five minutes. So feel free to type. Let's see what else can I share with you while that's happening. Oh, I didn't say anything about the difference between whether change agents are born or made. I actually think they're born. I have coached a few people into becoming change agents, but it wasn't a pleasant experience for them. Like it is for me. So, and I was that kid that, you know, was rearranging the, the playground when I was a little kid, like I've always been a change agent. So I think it helps if you come to terms with the fact that you're just wired that way. And, and that that's your best role. Okay, here, Nick would like to know if there's any advice for starting over due to company restructuring or fluctuations and leadership. You mean when your air cover disappears? That actually happened to me at PayPal. The people that hired me, almost all of them left the company before I did. And I had the CTO that hired me take me aside on his last day and say, you should quit. But I had already lined up the conditions that were going to make the launch of intersource possible. And I didn't feel like I could take steps back and then start again at that moment. It was the momentum was already going. So I decided to stick it out. It was not a pleasant last two and a half years. In fact, I was talking to Dwayne about this last night. And he said, I don't know how you did it, boss. It wasn't pleasant, but I had a goal in mind and I stuck with it. So take care. I think that the PowerPoint slides are going to be made available in my speaker area. I have to send them to the Linux Foundation. Still, I didn't do that because I had sent a prerecorded thing. So just a sec. Let me see. I think I saw another Nick question. Is that true? Oh, this is a little bit tricky. This, this tool. So I'm trying to find the other questions. Okay. Let's see. How do you own it? Yeah. How do you balance community and company interests? It's an interesting question. The best community managers are always accused of going native by somebody at some point in their career because walking the line between what the community wants and what the company wants is always, is always tricky. Right. What I try to do is suss out what the right path is and find allies who agree with me about that path. And I think I've, I've spoken before about the outside in marketing. My, my, the way that I did that at sun was I would faithfully reproduce whatever the messaging was that the message people had given me and they changed all the time. So it was a lot of work to remember them. I would faithfully say that message and then on stage, I would physically take a step to the right or left and I would say, but this is what I think. And I'd make it clear that I wasn't speaking on behalf of the company that I was expressing personal opinion. And then I would usually step back to the center and restate, you know, another time what, what, you know, why I thought the company was in good faith and whatever it was that they wanted me to say. But what I was doing was making an opportunity for the community to say, well, what you said is closer to what we believe. And that could then be reflected back to the company by them, not by me. There were people inside of sun, especially the people that made those messages up who felt like I wasn't behaving. And at one point, I, and I think also Simon Phipps were not allowed to speak for a while. We were, we were kept from speaking, but there was a speaker handler named Jim Grazanzio, who is now a community manager, which is, it was a great transition for him who saw that the outside world wanted to hear what we had to say. Like they, that we were the breath of fresh air in the messaging at that point. So he put his job on the line and continued to give us space. So sometimes change agency really feels like a game of strategy, you know, like a very sophisticated chess game. And the best you can do is make sure that no individual pieces get sacrificed without their complicity. If you know what I'm saying, including yourself, right? It's best if you put yourself on online first and then always be warm and generous about your company. It doesn't play well to air grievances with your company in front of the world. And I don't think I ever did that. I think I was, I was more, I was, I was being the change I wanted to see, but hopefully in a way that didn't damage son's credibility. And I don't think it did. I think at the end of the day, it never did. It is a balancing act. It's one of the hardest parts. And it's why it's a really good idea to already know your internal compass and where you're hoping to go and why, right? Because you're not always going to make people happy. Guy. Yeah, helping the guy wants to know how to help middle managers not be the kind of middle manager that you work around. I have had some limited success at making friends with middle managers and getting them to believe that I'm not undermining them by letting them in on where I think the future is headed and helping them figure out their moves, if you, if you will. And that's, that's certainly a real possibility. I've also coached a few managers of my own. You know, I, of course, I also had middle managers trying to corral me at various times and I've, I've shown them with some clarity that maybe they're misguided in their assessment. That's the nicest way I can put it. You have to appreciate that middle managers are, are trying to do the job that they think that they were given. It's super helpful if your air cover can help you tweak their understanding of their jobs a little bit. And you have to assess the culture because if the middle manager has been profligate in its new initiatives, you'll find that it's harder to gain the trust of the middle managers because they've been through so much failed change that they're just not interested in taking a risk again.  That's worth looking at when you're thinking about joining a company. What's the state of the middle managers and how likely are they to at least some percentage of them to become your, your allies. So, and I've been a middle manager as well. It's not an easy position as, as most of you that have done it know, it's, it's a tough balancing act as well. So you got to have some compassion for that. Likewise, these days, I didn't call it out, but product owners are having a really hard time right now as agile kind of displaces some of the functions of the product owner. And yet they're not given good tools to do their new job very well.  A lot of them and they need a lot of help to not use the wrong tools to get what they need. You know, this is the whole problem with executive escalation. If you get your friend, the executive, your air cover to call somebody else's air cover and force them to do something. You're also breaking the system. So you got to be a little careful how you use that. So anyway, how are we doing on time? I'm guessing that we're almost at the time where I have to say that you can meet me over in the community area number two on the Slack. And let me check with Grace and see. Grace, is that right? Okay, great. Yeah. See, I've got a, I've got a clock running here which tells me roughly where we're at. So I don't want to take up time that belongs to the next speaker. I'm going to go ahead and go over to the Slack channel and I hope that you guys will follow me if you want to have more conversation. And thank you so much for showing up.


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Yeah, this is the event we have over at the conference organization. I'm not sure what's going to happen here, but I want to say something to you. It's your problem now. You still have some money to work with. The basic idea behind this thing was that these 17 list some mistakes that have been made or things that could be improved or things that did work very good. So the Argentinian team doesn't make the same mistakes that we did and probably gets a better type of or something. This was learning which page. We've seen the wiki, but they broke the door. Wait, we're recording this or not? Because if we are, let's stick to the map. If we're not, then that's probably my problem. I don't think we should follow up. Maybe things you put together for sure. Yeah, I don't know. Parts program that will write down on everything. I'm happy to answer all of them. I'm happy to answer all of them. I'm happy to answer all of them. I'm happy to answer all of them. Let us know if that's what you need. Write in the comments. Then we'll put it in the wiki page. Start the wiki page. Which wiki? We use the Bitcoin wiki. One thing the video team noted was that there was not much talk and speaker management or some speakers complained to me that they came here and didn't know what they were supposed to do. There were no introductions to the speakers. Taking care of the talk ends was also done by the video team part, but the video team has to concentrate on video and not managing the talks. That should be improved next year. Is there a reason why we had four talks at the same time? I think that was kind of bad for the video team and also bad for talk management. I think it would have been better to have less places. I think we have a good point there. We need the four places because they were full most of the time. There is activity for all the places, but the video team maybe should concentrate only on taking the official talks and leaving the booths as on sale. Because even though we take the quality of what you can get in the bathroom is way below what you get at the talk ends, you get there shh shh shh all the time and shh shh shh shh. We have plans to increase the audio setup for the booth rooms as well. We actually don't have those stores. We have sessions on them. What is the one in the session? What are we going to do? We are going to have a discussion with the people who are involved in the talk and we will be back with the next session. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just going to wake up what the session is meant to be for. It's just lots of little details. I'm not sure we need to let the video team stop. As I said in the beginning, the session is for giving over from DevCom 7 to the DevCom 8, the head over, and listing things that could be improved in the future. So if you have something to list, feel free. The DevCom 7 team we are going to do what we like. So we are going to get the report out and tell some ideas about what we could have done better in quite a quick time frame. We are still actually doing the conference at the moment. I said you could say a lot about how we could do accommodation better, but it's this bitch. It might not go on tonight again anyway. Then I'll have more to say tomorrow. I think if we have four talk rooms, people will always get buffs in there or what not. What we want for the video team to comment about next year is that we can have a flag for each event and say this will not be videotaped, which can be either requested by the person giving the buff or what the video team will say, we will not videotape the listing buff. So it doesn't show up. And also this movie will always have that. Thank you. Chairman. Chairman, come on. Well, that wasn't the case. What I wanted to say, perhaps it is a must to just do audio recording for the buffs, if it is possible, to make them, give them some, I don't know. This is one remark. And the other remark is for the talks. I don't know really if there is a need for introducing the speaker. He can probably do it himself with three sentences. And the video team to show up this 10 minutes left and also they can read it on their tape if it is finished. Or if it is about to finish, they can do it perhaps. So we can save some people, organize the talk. So I don't know. I don't think it was really bad this year. Okay. No, no, no, I would like to know what it is possible. Everything is possible, but is it desirable? Well, okay. First, I would like to reply to you. Yes, of course, we don't have to have somebody to introduce the speaker. But on the other side, it is nice to introduce somebody and it is important to let the people in the video team focus on the video team. For example, we always have to get a volunteer from the audience to run around with the microphone. And the video team has to keep an eye on the five minute signs. We need a person responsible for the room regardless if they think or not. Now, I want to go back to something that I was going to say. If Morey plans on living as he always does in the middle of the session, I think it's important for us to know even if we're still in the middle of everything and we don't have the final words on anything who plans on staying in the team, who says, okay, that's it, I don't count the minutes here, whatever. So, I'd like to see who stays in. Okay, we're optimistic. Good. I'm having chairs for some talks. Like, for example, three talks would be with one chair and then he could also or she could also take care of the timing of the talk. Yes, but that's using in asking the detail. It's okay, Mike. When I raised this point, it was about do we need four places for talks at the same time? All the raised just details that we can work out. But my question is, for next year, do we need four spaces or are two, like in Helsinki or like in Mexico, are two places enough? Or do we need four? That's my question. The thing is, both were not supposed to be talks. Two for talks? I'll say this year, certainly, when we set up this, I wasn't actually expecting us to have four sessions scheduled against each other the whole time. I mean, one of those rooms available, but I expected both rooms to be used a lot more just as extra havoc space and so on than they actually were. I didn't realise so many. I mean, in the number of talks as well, and just filling up every day entirely with talks. So on a personal level, I was not expecting so many events against each other in that way, but there's always an argument of, if people want to give talks, should you just let them do it, or do you say, well, no, you can't really stop them? I think you can stop them, because if we have the both rooms, they would say, oh, great, there are now five people doing Debbie and Matt here. Let's just have a both. It's a mental and it's just there. I think maybe three rooms might be enough if there are less people in Argentina, depending on how many people register for the next appointment. But I also don't think it's a real problem to have four talks going on. People prefer both to work together and don't go to the talk. The thing is, a both is a very important figure. I mean, the kind of work that you do during a talk is completely different from what you do during the both. And I would say we're having at least two spaces. I mean, the same amount of spaces for one kind of work, then for the other, but not committing to date everything or give the same infrastructure to everything, maybe not even scheduling so strictly. The thing is that many people can't come to the talk and many of those people work in groups and they use the string to be on the both, which are usually decision-making reunions and stuff like that. So I think both are really important and they should be at least as true as if not maybe taken or edited or what not. I would like to agree with Conor that the both are not so formal and that if the people who are in the both not manage to inform the other who can't attend without the videos and something is giving them. So I think talks will be fine for their calling but there should be two parallel rooms but not recalling them. Next point, please. Shall I go over some problems we've had this year? I think one of the big problems we've had this year is difficult with the amount of volunteers we've had, with the short numbers of the amount of work we're trying to do. Sorry, can people speak to you? Yeah, sorry. We have very low numbers of people, volunteers and organisation teams and communications are quite difficult with what we've had and certainly over the last couple of days we've not had much track of who's here, who's doing what who's in charge of something. The main point is you really need someone you need someone to be in charge purely of keeping track of what's going on and that person really has to be dedicated to that. That's a big commitment because if DevCon goes for two weeks you're also going to have to have a week beforehand where there's a lot of activity going on there's a lot of things arriving you need equipment to set up so if a week before DevCon you've got DevCamp, you've got DevCamp and they're probably going to be shattered for another week afterwards and have to sleep so if that's like someone taking a month of their life to dedicate to DevCon you're going to need a lot of resource from a certain core a lot of dedication from some core members I'm sorry, too fast so certainly communications it was difficult this year if we had things like better radios that might have helped a lot we had some radios here that weren't working correctly so we weren't working correctly so we've not been using the radios so if everyone in the team if you had the details of this person is in charge of someone this person is in charge of this this person is in charge of that and you've all got radios you can communicate a lot more effectively communications were poorer this year and it makes things quite difficult and you can see we're all sitting here in this booth and if you open sections and they're structured it takes a lot of time when people have to advocate a lot of time and I've noticed also in our continued meetings we can sit there for two hours with an order team meeting and not get through very much and that's two hours for maybe 10 people you've ruined the distribution of communications that's coming forward for next year I understand two things we need more organization and we need radios in the opportunity radios but also better structure these really clear structures of who's doing what and you need someone managing that structure whoever is actually able to who can dedicate the whole time throughout has to keep track of that because I think we needed a bit more of that maybe Marcela can you comment on the work you did with volunteers back here no but because you were in charge of that and you did it what's the best okay there were nearly no local team so I know and I managed with people that volunteered from everywhere that's what I did okay sorry I didn't want to throw a hot container on you no last year Marcela was a volunteer coordinator we did have it but as she says even having a coordinator may not be enough we may need to think how to enforce that structure because I have rethought all over what happened then we had a lot of local volunteers yes that were there during the days of the conference not before we didn't have people planning we didn't have people load balancing but during the conference we had 20, 30 Mexicans who had no relation with the project and many people from inside so the thing is we had a coordinator but we didn't have a structure for that so maybe he's not abandoning the coordinator but creating something around I think what were this year was that we had mostly daily meetings of the Ogre team which can keep the structure intact and help them really the whole we got camp and depth conf make them short but make them that really, really helped go back to your point about local volunteers volunteering this year we've not had that much help from some of the delegates we could have had more response from this problem but at the same time if you've got help from people who are at the conference these are people who have suddenly appeared you don't know who they are and you don't have much control for what they're doing it's useful as the areas that are resourced you can only get so much out of them if you have again if you had radios and maybe if you could give those radios what they're doing and what time they can dedicate maybe you can get more out of them and actually have them do more use we did have people who helped out did a lot of work with networking and so on but to get the maximum of use out of that it's better to know more about what people are doing why do radios you know and where is each other because you're not an Irish people cannot communicate with Irish people running around the building if you're trying to cable things up and you want to know if someone's if you are running around the building and there's a problem upstairs you need to get hold of this person and this person very quickly if you send them a message in Irish so you're not going to read that for 10 minutes or 15 minutes and the problem is in each year you're going to have to run to find them if you've got a radio and they put it out in the radio's incident you're going to get someone there and then you know who they are and you can find them and as long as people are that accessible it makes such a difference that was a big problem this year as a side note on the subject of IOC I think we had quite a lot of problems relying on that for tea meetings in the months prior to actually coming together obviously this is the issue of everyone talking at the same time but also trying to admit it correctly in last logging things can be very difficult and it's probably not possible for the next year or so but it'd be interesting to see what other methods could be used to handle tea meetings where people are all over the world they might be seeing opportunities they might be seeing better technologies for that again on the tea meetings it would be nice if there was more structures to the tea meetings you can have a standard format where you decide actions at the tea meetings and you note them down clearly what actions are meant to be doing who's meant to do them and for the next tea meeting review those actions ensure that they've done since the last tea meeting ensure things are progressing and try to establish more structure it's going to help them to move along a lot faster it wouldn't have worked a nice spot for tea meetings to take down write the minutes automatically collect to-do items and the stuff is really simple but I think it's linked on wikikabee and awkwardly what I believe it will do the other thing I think really a volunteer manager is more important than having radio links radio links are radio are a nice tool to help keeping in touch but particularly one person for the volunteers knowing who is volunteering for what and we need more volunteers for specific tasks and I'm not sure if that was said in the beginning but here also I was missing somebody who was in charge of these rooms like in the other room that the band suddenly came that was also partly the talk manager manager's role but maybe it's a room I'm not sure in press in press you can't understand the the audio for example is from here or you should bring it here we hired it's hired mostly hired some stuff from the video team and I spoke mostly to the DPA to get Debian funds to buy stuff for the video team what my proposal to buy is to fix audio for us because we have cameras which are not so good which we can get better cameras later but first have proper audio because audio is really important stuff for the talks with the videos that get better audio setup which is the same in every room then we still need for the big room still need a PA for the rest we don't need amplifier the audio the video teams are smaller but the audio team is bigger you should bring in plane to attend this is a the mixers yeah it's small enough to bring around I've seen nice setup at ACA which really is not expensive and can be carried around we should not yeah that's a detail again okay but I wanted to ask you about the layout about the characteristics of the hotel we will be at I mean because there's no much point in saying it's bad for a both room to serve also as connecting Aon like it was here that's losing details we don't want how is this hotel prepared for this I understand it's very well prepared so we will have much less problems adequate facilities to our needs yes it's a hotel that's used to having conferences it has like 50 conferences a year rooms it has rooms for 850 people for sleeping rooms for sleeping and it has 8 no 7 conference rooms but most of them are quite big they are talk rooms we probably will divide one of the big rooms into several places to have both rooms there not so big but that's the idea both are supposed not to be so big so we have like a talk room where a lot of people can go on the different smaller spaces something like that something that would be interesting maybe for you to try around or somebody else there are cameras that are specifically made for video conferencing that can be centrally controlled that can be set on the roof so you don't have people's heads across so I know we cannot buy them because they are very expensive but we may get a sponsor to lend them to us having a centrally controlled room with one video operator instead of four would be a of three it would be very nice so maybe we should look into that yeah I was thinking it's really video detail and the video team has discussed this on the writing list one thing that happened a couple times in different ways this year was we left one thing or another too late we had this sun machine shipped and it got held up in customs and we didn't get it till the middle of DEVCON a few other things popped up in the last minute because we thought they would be better than they wouldn't so something that might be useful is actually try to get something shipped to you in Argentina a month ahead of time and see how long it really takes if I had any idea sun couldn't get a machine into Great Britain I would we might have changed I don't actually care about details if it works fine that's great but I'm just I'm not in the past the very least I've had many problems getting scared off it's not just that it's a general principle but it's a big problem I don't know what you can do about that the problem with customs is not a new one we had the same problem with T-shirts in Oslo in 2003 they actually ended up costing more than the T-shirts themselves the customs so just make sure that's detail yeah that's detail just make sure this will be a problem in any country as far as I know all DEVCONs have had this problem you're shipping it too late it's like it's gifts it's been very expensive DEVCON another thing I want to mention is in Oslo we were three people in the main organizing team I was like the coordinator of all of it and we had good experience having one person in charge of the front desk that was like the front desk that was the information coordination center they would know what was going on where people were when someone was looked after they were told to go to the front desk to ask for people but of course that was a smaller venue still having one meeting place that knows what's going on it's a very valuable thing we did try to know with the front desk we did try to keep on top of things with the front desk one of the problems was actually keeping enough people informed about everything that was going on we did start up with quite a few more people involved and it was just very hard to help them keep track of all of the information that was found back before this is where we have the daily meetings but again there's lots of communications there's lots of communications issues around that we also had problems where if we want to announce all the delegates we had problems with cow gates to get information to the delegates and information back from the delegates this was very difficult we had to have people running into talks announcing with talks, posting on lists same in IRC even then the delegates didn't get the information or didn't get the information back you need to work quite hard on making sure you have another communication channels that you can actually get the information you want out to the right people it's very difficult we try to various things like posting to announcements realistically maybe not everyone is going to have computer access at that point it's crazy as that sounds so pin copies of reception and things like that as well also it would be quite nice possibly something that could be done with PENTA to do mail-ups to a set of people meeting certain criteria because the closest we've got to that is in IRC in the games at the moment and that's something helpful and we don't have a lot of email information obviously we should be stricter with registrations to make sure we have this information or people can shout at that a lot earlier well one point that Luciano raised and that obviously works as a sponsor thing it was like a big problem this year and we don't want to be like that next year so can we speak about it the reason for the problem last year was that we didn't have the sponsored contacts at the beginning of the year because we weren't given by the people from the previous year we have but I think that's where we continue with sponsorship I hope and other people who have now made it so that's fine one lesson I learned in Mexico was that we had problems getting the hardware that we would also try to ship stuff to Mexico from HP in the US to Mexico really a problem but learned them later, it would not have been a problem to get stuff from HP Mexico so try to get local sponsors in Argentina for hardware stuff so you don't have to go through customs who's going to be in the sponsorship team for next year the they're getting money in the money in team we'll be slacks again I think more than probably I have some contacts and Holger has some contacts Stockholms actually wants to join again and help so maybe him depends on the rest of the team wants it and this is from you probably if you want yes we should help yes I hope these are not all Argentinian people probably some others have had contacts this year too like Max had some contact with Siemens and she should continue because they all only know each other but that's it more or less I have a more general question you asked for one moment before who want to stay in the team how is it possible to join the team just to some just to some the problem is I don't like to promise something and find out that I can't fit this promise I just want to do this what can be done and then I could see if I can do it join the meetings a very useful role that several people this year did people like Chris and Newton and a few others would show up they weren't available to do a lot of team pre-planning but they showed up and then gave us their whole day or their whole time here because we're at the front desk people come for the wireless noodles a lot more for the accommodation and frankly police to the night venue a lot of nights very useful so if you want to do something like that I think more people doing that is great yes it's a lot of stuff and if you want to help you in the year we have many of us that come team with one where things are positive and then we have I think first every month a meeting on ISE where we discussed how it's going on and if you show up there and just say I could work on this task or this task and then report to the mailing list and continue to do that let's try to finish a point before starting anyone back to the sponsor things also there are very different types of sponsor needs I think because of what I know that the local sponsors will be not so much well if you can get some that will be invested not so much sponsors giving money but giving facilities but yes you have to you have to start asking and a problem we had well also regarding what you said it's the same as for sponsors local people will try to work will try to help you the thing is when we started the conversation for the when in Mexico some people approach and say what do I do I told him okay get to the meetings and see what you can do but some local people are not involved so they need to be given tasks so think of that very difficult when people ask you what can I do give me a job to do many people have asked me tell me something I can do to help with that and what you really want is people with initiative will be there and have a rough area to deal with the deal with video or the deal with audio you don't want someone to say what do I do you want someone to come down and this isn't working they'll fix it they'll work out how to fix it without having to be told how what he said before about the people being available we're just dedicating the time of being available and dealing with what comes up that is very helpful people that want to just do a single task that's very difficult to schedule so if you want them to help you and you can do what Chris and I are doing that makes a big difference I would second that the best way to get involved at an early stage is to attend the meetings or read the minutes or minute the meetings so you get an idea of who's doing what and you might spot that there are areas that aren't being covered but initiative is a great help we did have quite a lot of posts on the mailing list in the months running up to the dead pump as well and we just thought well I don't know, come along, what have we missed? Compared with the volunteers who get down have the initiative to just go on fix the staff by themselves I think the volunteer coordinator role that was sort of previously probably very well in assigning that people staff because you'll always have volunteers wondering what to do If people talk half much initiative and you give them a job to do very often it doesn't get done very many times I've told people do this, do that come back, it hasn't happened because they've seen a problem and they've given up on the job rather than trying to work around helping with doing what's needed and you can get the same job to one person then to the next person then to the next person, none of them do it and then you have a problem it's difficult when the people that show initiative you build up trust with them they have initiative the more you can actually lie on and say I've told this person to do that job they do it and you're happy with trusting for that the people that don't you can't give them things that they don't do it, problems will happen so relationships are really important and if you've got new members, local volunteers you don't know, you don't have that relationship you don't have that trust and you don't know who will do things I mean there is the same issue for the planning period unfortunately what we need is not just people who have a fixed amount of time we need people that if there's a big problem they can put in more time on some of these areas we have big problems for example on accommodation jobless and a huge amount of great work but we went through we kept on just losing people on that because it was a difficult problem the whole ranging accommodation area and we get to some point and people have just stopped because there wasn't too much time and of course I'm not saying that's bad of them but what you want someone to do a job who can carry on because it's much harder than for the next


Hello everybody, E here. Welcome back to Castle Talk with Shale today. We are talking about episode five Harvest of Castle Rock on Hulu Right off the bat Zalinsky's dead. We got yeah Definite component cut combination Confirmation that the corpse. He's dead and oh Henry. Oh, Henry. Oh Henry. Oh, Henry. Henry has an ear problem But your ear problem, right dating back to his team, but Supposedly it happened or I guess it exacerbated the situation with the shot shot down in the ear one, you know One thing to point out in the opening not not the credits But you know the opening like Montau that this when they show you know last time on Castle Rock They showed Nick fist bumping Zalinsky now, of course, we all saw that I don't think any of us thought anything about it and then Zalinsky goes off shoots everybody and Basically, I mean he didn't kill himself, but he killed himself. I mean suicide by cop Yeah, you want to put it and then later on in the episode we see Lacey touch Nick and What happened Lacey?  Yeah What in the world Did she I don't know So far the answer that is no, but yeah We can only just go ahead and assume that she did and we just don't know yet But it's very split with because the issue with that. She's not dead. Yes. She's not dead. So but not for lack of trying So the the one thing that I noticed in this episode is Nobody touched Nick and I need to go back and re-watch all of this stuff now to find out if anybody else has touched Nick So as Henry touch Nick did Henry touching Nick at some point in time that maybe we missed because we weren't looking for it Did he end up touching mom and that carrying it on there's one thing of note with touching in the Just sounds wrong We did with touching in the Stephen King universe especially with hearts in Atlanta because Ted brought again was able to pass on his powers Just by touching someone So there's some more Stephen King stuff or some more Stephen King lore Maybe I don't know and if you watch the show Haven the troubles sometimes there's a trouble where it's a touch thing so We'll see yeah Johnny Smith from the dead zone. He touched people to get you know To see into their future that kind of thing. So it's a running theme which even King touching Okay, so we had a note of Juniper Hill which of course is the same place where the The midnight I want to say the midnight man It's just like the graveyard man or whatever she calls it in Gerald's game the tall gangly dude That hides in the corner But he goes Juniper Hill and Henry Bowers from it ends up in Juniper Hill along with some other people You can check out the week the wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki on Stephen King wiki to find out who all's been in Juniper Hill. There's like a list of five people Hmm. Yeah, so we got no to that the kid at the birthday party was named Gordy. I mean Stand by me the body reference. That's a little obvious Yes, the same, you know, it's the same thing the body who will stand by me is the movie adaptation of the body So also got butt-making Nick. Not sure I need to see Nick, but no It's like team Pennywise make it exit. I mean is it but you know, it's whatever, you know It's a nice, but I guess it was a nice, but She's not she's not comedy Okay, so what happened how did they how did he get from being butt-making Nick to flannel wearing Nick in the cars While Torrance lady was smoking weed And of course that was a very Why in the world would you want to do that with some strange stranger, well, how did we get there? This is some just some real JJ Abrams lost stuff where we just warped to another scene And we have no information on how they got there I guess we can assume that she talked to but how do you how do you get into a conversation with a butt-naked dude and And then the same hour day, whatever main night hour same time frame End up in the truck. Why do you even want to try to hold a conversation with this person? Yeah, why not just run? Why are you like? Oh, there's a daily bitch Let me let me say what's up Yes, you run away So Torrance lady literally is named Torrance lady Because of Jack Torrance and the Torrance family and the shining and all that stuff literally I mean they didn't that's not that's not even a subtle drop She said she said at a hotel resort chopped up his family with that whatever That's not what happened though He didn't chop up his family because Wendy and Danny make it out even even in the even in the The Kubrick version they make it out So I'm confused How they how they say that he chopped up his family. Is it alternate? I guess it's all alternate reality. They're just trying to throw down a thing What just an Easter egg for the sake of it, but why go so hard with the Easter egg? That's what I want. Why be like, okay. Here's a hard connection to the shiny but Not really because he didn't do that Just whatever. Um So most of this episode is just nifty and creepy Yeah, and Henry still not knowing anything and What was up with what's her name? Ruth telling him you don't know how it is to forget your own story. Sorry. Okay. Yeah How much has he forgotten that we don't actually know? But she said you don't know what it feels like to forget your own yeah, yeah, but he does That doesn't know does he know what happened? I mean does he actually know and and he knows because of the flashes, right? Does he actually have real memory of? Exactly and now it's it's not totally I mean yes, she has dementia or sundowners Alzheimer's any number one. I guess they're saying that she has dementia in there Um sundowners is this is I used to work with they used to work in an Alzheimer's ward and Sundowners and literally as soon as the Sun goes down they get confused.  Yeah That was Lacey telling him that evil was following him. Yeah Yeah, I mean Bible verses. Oh one thing I forgot to mention last week was the The thing on I want to he says the no strong note He says robed dipped in blood. I'm not sure if that's a Bible reference or if he's That when when the deputy warden, I don't know the guy who who goes into talk to him in episode four Nick says that he And he wore a robe dipped in blood. I mean crimson King reference, right? I mean it might be from the might be from the Bible, but I'm pretty sure that's crimson King reference Anyways, so I forgot to bring that up. I think there's something else from the last one that I forgot to bring up. Oh This Jardin's brother lost the thumb and forefinger, right? I think on his right hand I think it was anyways, but who else lost the thumb and forefinger on the right hand forgot to mention that She don't know she won't she won't find out she won't she gonna do the dark tower re-re with us rolling No, I'm not gonna make you wait rolling yes Well, I didn't want to spoil it, but I didn't go ahead and spoil it for you But it happens really early on in the series and he has to deal with it throughout so Anyways going back to my notes. That's all my notes. Of course huge cliffhanger again So what's not not only does Nick aka. What's his nuts? Obviously? Not only does Nick Not only does Nick touch people and maybe they suicide Maybe those people are actually bad people and he can help good people. I don't know because he said he can help mama Henry Yeah, he did at the very last last line But wait wait wait, let's go back to ping-pong talking to Nick. Oh, yeah Yeah, that was 27 years ago 27 years.  Yeah that go back and watch you videos. I thought I brought up 27 years Really? Yeah, he was in Trump Yes, so we so obviously Nick is supernatural beyond just touching on folks This episode. I'm just gonna call this episode touching on folks. I would be touching on every touch But I what did paying born what it did did Lacey have something on paying born is it really is Is it really that paying born just believe the dude? I mean you've got a kid It was it wasn't really a kid also because it clicked with me. Well, actually just click right now He didn't have a kid in the trunk. He had I mean come on Nick's a grown man I mean Young he hasn't young many had it. He had a grown man in his trunk So did the paying born think it was some kinky sex What in the world did Lacey get away from How do you explain that yeah, because that's really convenient if if paying more is like, okay? I believe you do just holla, you know, no I'm hoping we get some paying more flashbacks and they they covered this yeah That's kind of because the way they could fix it at this point is and let's go ahead and throw some theories and some predictions out there at this point it be a matter of maybe Lacey had something on paying more and paying born did some dirty stuff You know, whatever it might be something along those lines and you know, that's why paying born didn't say anything But paying born did tell Nick That he just believed him because the town is evil that's some convenience Yeah, exactly that's just too easy man I mean to open up that big of a can of worms and then to to explain it away by You are cheating your way through the storytelling. What the heck? She ain't even a writer y'all. She knows this. Um, I teach So I Want to go ahead and say it is my favorite episode so far only because we got Creepy Nick And Creepy Nick is creepy We got some more history on Nick and that's I wanted that and I guess Zelinsky story is over and done with what that telephone call the warden got so nothing else from that Nick Is that a prison? Are we gonna hear about the prison at all anymore beyond the connections to Lacey and Nick? Is there gonna be anything else? That's fine if they move on. I'm perfectly all right But remember what we said last time it felt like a season finale, right and now they're moving on to a different Did feel like season 2 episode yeah, that's exactly that that's what it felt like to me And then of course that first season of every episode ends on a huge cliffhanger and this one was another huge So maybe this was one of those things where they thought they were only gonna get five episodes and it turned into ten For that. Oh, I guess. Well. Yeah, yeah, this is right. So what? Yeah, who the eight we're here for the long all folks and for y'all out there going Why are you still watching the show if you don't like it? I never said I didn't like it I said I got questions. I am critical of things that I enjoy so We will analyze the mess of a be raided whore. Yeah, we'll be in there time We'll break down like the the social schematics of friggin puppet master. Yes. It's just what we do It we're an analytical couple or an analytical family. Yeah, so just because we're critical of something does not mean We don't like it just please believe that we're having fun or else Yeah, we probably I probably just continue on by myself and you know, just not do this show at all So anything else you want to add about episode fun? I'm just I'm really hoping that they advanced this and I see this probably Going forward in a whole bunch of flashbacks and if that happens y'all I'm not here for all these flashbacks. Yeah, that's not cool. That's a game. I can feel it coming. Yeah, that's J.J. Lost It's like I've never even watched Lost but I know that some a lot of the show is flashbacks that being before the island I kind of ain't even after the island flashing back to when they were Anyways, so until next time I have any you've been you show is gonna be down there in a doobly doobly


A grilse is a salmon that has gone out as a smalt and has come back the following year as a one sea winter fish. Usually they start coming in the river about the end of June at about four pound in weight and each month they're out at sea. Coming in that year they put on about a pound of weight per month and your two sea winter fish are the ones that come back after their second year at sea and your three sea winter fish are obviously the bigger boys but they all, having spawned, attempt to get back to sea. Your male fish do not make it because they run out of gas looking after the reds after spawning.


Good morning my friends welcome back to the vlog so today I thought I would take some time to kind of go through some of the comments and questions that I've been getting on my Last couple of videos and just kind of clarify a few things So I'm gonna jump right in I'm actually getting ready So this is kind of gonna be like half get ready with me half like answering your questions and responding to comments So I already put powder on my face I just used this BB powder from Physicians formula and I just put a little bit of this Rose spray on as kind of like a base I'm not gonna do a whole lot of makeup today because I'm not going anywhere that requires me to look really good So I'm not gonna do then too much makeup I'm gonna be just a little bit bronzer because my body is a little bit tanner than my face So do it for kind of accomplishing but anyway, okay So my last two videos that I posted one was my move-in video The other one was my planning and my district's plans video. I just want to like Frontload this was just saying like I don't know every single thing like I know some details But I'm still pretty much in the dark about a lot of details So I'm just gonna jump right in and start with comments and questions So All of the questions that I'm gonna be answering I did put public So if you want to see them you can go to those videos and see all of my comments are on approval So there have been a few people who have found my address and like my personal phone number And they've put them in comments and so I keep everything private so that I can just like filter through those nasty ones Okay, so if it's like a comment that I don't feel needs to be shared publicly Then I won't but like I said, you can go look a couple of them like this one I guess COVID doesn't exist in Arizona. Well, either you're being nasty or you've been living under a rock But yes, it does exist in Arizona Unfortunately because of our school schedule we go back first before most of the nation does Some of our schools begin at the end of July like mine some begin at the very beginning like August But we also get out of school at the very end sort of end-ish of May And so yeah, we're starting earlier So it kind of sounds crazy that we're already into this like back-to-school mode But we are and that's just how Arizona is so Arizona is leading the way in school and COVID What graded by teaching again this year, so I'm going to be teaching fourth grade science and social studies We are departmentalized at the school that I'm at a question about that was when you departmentalize With all this going on their surprise. They're going to let kids rotate. So the day that I moved into my classroom my principal actually had contacted me and the rest of my team and I'm sure the fifth grade possibly sixth grade and Asked us if we would consider rotating teachers Which means that our students would be in a home classroom and then the teachers we would rotate through Classrooms so basically rotating the teachers rather than the students which at first I was kind of like like I would rather just be in my own classroom all day but then I thought about it and that was really selfish of me because The only reason why I'd want to stay in my own room all day is just because that's my stuff like that's my room And I wasn't really thinking You know how difficult it would be for 60 plus children to move around the building when just three teachers could move So we did let our principal know that we would be more than happy to rotate We would just use carts And it's obviously not permanent. I mean you know It's not forever I also offered her like hey I could just teach all subjects and she was like, you know some there's a lot of teachers that don't want to do that So we'll just stick to what we're doing This just broke so I need a new one. It's like my Nick's brow stuff that just broke But anyway, so if we do go back In person and they're still like a big threat then we as teachers will rotate through our three scheduled Blocks, so our homerims would just stay put and we would move around So a question came up are any teachers from my school teaching online? I do believe at the end of the school year last year my district because I wasn't there So I don't really know I could ask my teammate, but I think they gave them the option to teach online like to sign up to do that and Then you know shuffled people around so I'm pretty sure they gave teachers an option Which I've heard is very common here in Arizona I know that a lot of my friends From my old district got the option to teach online Hybrid or in person so that's really cool They're giving teachers options because they understand that some people have compromised immune systems at home Or you know, they Are not comfortable returning to school with children So they did get an option at my other district. Like I said, I don't know I'm new to this one So I don't really know what happened a ton at the end of last year, but um, I Can assume that like my old district they gave teachers a choice How do I feel about my return to school plan? Well as as time has progressed so since the last time I felt Um mice my district did announce that we will begin virtual on the 22nd of July And we will remain virtual until at least August 17th, and then they will reassess and see what the governor says So as of now I am beginning online and so I have started kind of Planning and prepping some stuff for my classroom for Google classroom. Just like You know virtual meet the teacher stuff and Expectation things and since I get my school computer tomorrow I don't have a district email yet. So I don't have technically access to a Google classroom that I can make So as soon as I get that computer in that email, I will start creating My Google classroom and start getting things ready for that I do kind of have like a plan and depending on what my principal Like their expectations as far as like how many assignments per day Are the kids doing like mandatory like am I gonna be holding like a virtual class? I don't really know Everything is supposed to begin this week. So I know on the 9th, which is Thursday I have some meetings and I know tomorrow I get my computer and then Wednesday, I don't really know what's going on yet But I know that a lot of our meetings are virtual so we'll find out What's going to happen? I do kind of have a plan for what I want the kids to be doing online It's gonna be kind of hard, you know to teach science online and social studies online without it being reading heavy But it's just going to have to be what it is Um So I'll make it work. I'm I'm just praying that we can go back to school to work from school as teachers Just so that I can have a little bit more like a workspace Rather than trying to cram Everything into a small office By the way, I'm using this new mascara from Thrive cosmetics. It's the Liquid lash extensions mascara and let me tell you what Stuff is bomb. It's like a tubular mascara, so it has like the fibers in it and It's pretty stellar Pretty stuff. I think that's it. All right, let me grab the coffee and we're gonna take a field trip To the office Somebody commented saying it's insane how much we teachers spend in our classrooms to build an environment We don't get paid enough. I Agree it is pretty crazy how much money we spend on our own Stuff but unfortunately, but unfortunately we have to see this is the kind of stuff that we don't show you on YouTube But I'll show you So anyway, okay, let's get into a couple more of these. I know that somebody had commented saying like I'm shocked that you're allowed to bring so much personal stuff in Such-and-such country. I can't see it right now, but in such-and-such country Our school provides us with everything we need and I'm like I'm so glad for you They're like, yeah, we just order it through our school's budget. Oh, I'm so glad for you That's so cool. Can I move there? Okay I'm trying to find more like questions, so let's see somebody Diana. I believe uses science fusion I so wish we use science fusion I don't want to have to purchase all the online stuff on my own Because we do have our own curriculum as you saw in my last video, but I so wish we could I am familiar with mystery science My school is not signed up for it as I that I know of but I'm possibly thinking about reaching out and asking if they are Um, oh, yeah, this one. This was my favorite Is it normal for us teachers to have to bring so much stuff for the classroom? I teach in the UK and it would be unheard of for a teacher to bring so much You need a U-Haul most stuff is provided by the school or you can order it through the school with the school's budget Can I move there? Can I come teach with you? Do you know how much money I would save? Yes, I have a lot of stuff and here's why So, I mean, this is just me personally, but I know a lot of people are different When I pack up my classroom for the end of the school year There are quite a few things that I probably could pitch and get rid of But when you're moving districts, you just don't know what you're going to get when you get there What they're going to provide how much budget you're gonna have What the demographic of the family is these going to be like are they going to be more willing to give and donate? Are they not going to be capable of donating? Things like that so a lot of the stuff that you guys saw me moving was like boxes of supplies So I have like boxes of tempura paint. I have boxes of Construction paper. I have boxes of like science stuff. So like potting soil and like Pretty much anything that was given to me throughout the last six years of my career that I didn't use that I was allowed to take I took it Because it's free and I don't know if I'm gonna get it again I just got a package. I just got a package. I just got a package. I wonder what it is I did quite a bit of online shopping This last couple days so I'm sure In these next couple of videos I'm gonna be sharing things I bought You don't know what this is I don't know what this is. I think it's a store It's a cable. Okay, so I ordered an iMac. Yay. I'm totally a copycat of Jennifer I've wanted one for years and We had some really cool Significant money-saving events happen in our household and I'm turning 30 in like two months So I requested an iMac computer for my birthday because editing videos working from home things like that My computer is great, but it doesn't have a lot of memory. I can't really store stuff on it So I wanted a an iMac to go here in my office for many different reasons And so I got it and it won't be here until my birthday like the week of my birthday But this is just an adapter cord for that. So I'll just Okay Let's continue with the Q&A The district is letting you bring in all that furniture Our district is not allowing any furniture with fabric due to germ COVID concerns interesting how every state has different standards Well, my friends If the school or district was not going to allow me to bring things I don't know what I would do because I was paying $90 a month to store my classroom Also, I don't have any fabric furniture I think I have one chair that is fabric and I was planning on bringing that home to be in this office anyway Plus if I don't have a kid sit on it It's not really a big deal. The striped fabric chair in my classroom is my chair anyway. So They won't be sitting there obviously and then a lot of my other furniture is more like bookshelves and like surface area Desks things like that. I do have pillows that I took But again, they'll probably be put away if we do return Why does this make me excited for the upcoming school year because it's giving hope That's what it's giving when I got to move into my classroom I was given a little bit of hope and then of course it was snatched back when we got told we weren't going back till August 17th But I'm hoping we can go in to work like I said It's just crazy to me Let's see. Yes, I have a lot of stuff, but like I said, I've gone to schools where I've had no furniture I've gone to schools where I've had a ton of furniture I've gone to schools where they gave me stuff. They didn't give me stuff and I just like having my own things because I like creating the classroom environment So that it's enjoyable for students and I personally think that a white Matching set of bookshelves is better than a gray Metal bookshelf that matches nothing. That's just my personal opinion You don't have to you don't have to think that going out and buying a bunch of furniture and like Making it a Pinterest worthy classroom is what you have to do because you really don't my classroom is not Pinterest worthy I just have a preference and I like things to be the way they are and That's just how it goes We're not allowed to go in and decorate I haven't been back since I moved in my like I said in those videos My principal was very gracious and let me move my stuff in there So that I didn't have to pay another month's rent on my storage unit So that was just very very kind of her and she didn't have to do that I I don't believe any of the other teachers that work there or that are moving in had that opportunity Because I probably just have way more stuff than anyone else that I needed a storage unit but That was very nice of her Gabriella says hi Miss Vildes. Hi sweetheart. I miss you though. I think that's all of the questions that I have For like returning to school like I said, I'm still kind of in the dark. I just texted my friend My husband's Partner's girlfriend is also going to be working at my school teaching science in seventh grade. And so we've kind of connected They work together and we've kind of connected and we've been talking back and forth and like making plans to like work together and like stuff like that and We're very much still in the dark like like I said earlier I get my computer tomorrow, but I have no idea where I go after that I know that we're starting virtually, but I have no idea what types of plans I have to do And how everything's going to work yet. They just haven't communicated that yet, but I'm assuming it will happen this week Yeah, I got And this video is already going to be like 20 minutes long because I'm a rambler Um, I'm done with that. So I'm gonna let you guys go and I will continue to update you guys as things progress here in Arizona With schools and the beginning of the school year if you're not already don't forget to follow me on Instagram I like to do more daily like throughout the day updates there more like Instagram blogging if you will but if you're not following me there go ahead and do that and Yeah See you guys