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Where are you guys when I needed something including pre-shoot. That's hellofresh.com slash 85 South 14. Hey man, look, October 29th at the Donald L. Tuckerson. Good boy, Sam. In Tallahassee, Florida. Fam, you hoes, I'm a weekend. I'm to the show Friday. Then you go to the game Saturday. Can we go to the game? We, if we stay down then. Oh!  Why it ain't like an Australian but look. Ha ha ha ha! More Alabama Mississippi but look. Menakin' but look. I'm like, what do you think now, man? Menakin' is known for having that. I ain't seen all the asses, but I will say that the pictures I've seen from Brazil, they are top three. Real. On the carnivores and stuff like that. Yes. They got some bubble butts down there, they say. But I wouldn't, what you want, like in Mississippi but look or Brazilian but look. Which one sounds more?  Oh, there's some good surgeons though. No, there's some, these is just straight cornbread, black-eyed peas. I never, when we grew up down the side, we never knew women didn't get surgery.  I mean that's still the case with a lot of women now. I don't know why women go get these surgeons, especially if you ain't had no kids. You should just wait on your mama body.     Like God got another body for most women that's gonna come later on in life. Everybody know that.   Can I tell you what happened? What happened? Okay. Home boy. We ain't gonna say it tonight. He tried, he used to act like he was a doctor, had professional advice, he knew how to get chicks thick. First, you get a pregnant. Two months later, Megan had abortion. He did that three times, six months, had a dime piece. No kids, no stretch marks, stallion. I didn't approve of it, but that's why I ain't wanna say his name. That's $900. Don't ask me how I know the message. $72,900 ain't that? I've heard that's about $900, which you've just scrubbed. Really? I thought it was more than that.  I think the perception is wrong. Just like y'all said about being tall, I don't think women want tall men. What they want then? I think women want men with big dicks and it's associated with tall men sometimes. That's what I think. And I don't think no women got tall men. Who told you that? They got dicks or what?   And God put up, I ain't even gotta talk about it. I'm gonna get back to that this Sunday. But I'm just saying, I'm just nothing to y'all.  Yeah, yes.  Yes, they do. And I'm just saying what I think. What? What I just said.   What's going on out here, man? Ain't no coming back from that.  I don't know how it worked. I didn't click the link. I wasn't even. I didn't want to see the picture. I thought that was spam. I thought it was a Facebook spam ad.  I feel like I'm in a job. Just for real. Damn.  I don't like short niggas.  No questions asked. That's some, that's some. She wouldn't play 20.  That's no different than that.    You never done that. You never, you never done something that you don't want to like. You seen me. I ain't say you changed on this thing in general. You have self-esteem. So this thing for you. But I'm saying like, even if I did spend 72,000 on whatever, I'm not going to go talk to the same motherfucker. I'm going to go try these new motherfuckers there. Why would I spend 72,000 dollars on some new legs to talk to the same motherfucker who didn't like my whole leg? Because they like the legs.  There's new me.  You lying.  Loose. Loose, you're lying. You think so? It's the same height ain't no different than bread.  Like remember when you didn't have a car in high school and you got a car.  Somebody get that back. Somebody get that back. I spent that block. I spent that block though.  And then when they started liking me, I was like, nope. I remember, nope.  No, I'm not. You know what?   I don't want to talk to them women who told me they not interested. Because they, I was, you know what I'm saying? I'm going over there. I don't know none of them. I don't know their names. I don't know what they're into. I want to hear their stories. But you're not going number one if you have too much height.  Not you, but Gary Coleman was out here. You know what I'm saying? He had three wives then. He got all with different stroke. Nothing's impossible. So you saying that height surgery is for men who don't believe in their own abilities.   It's too new.  Now you can't fly.  But you didn't know that. You wanted to know. Exactly.  And all you found out- Yeah, you had to go through a whole physical therapy. Exactly. You had to go through a whole physical therapy.   Why the fuck? Why are you thinking about the surgery?  Just like Roy said.  You just got to take your whole pants down and just stand up there.  You got to hold on to something.  You just all on the toilet.   Where you start doing comedy at? Birmingham. Birmingham.  So- Man, what made you go to the fan of you?  Because we always show love to the HBCUs and you know, Clayton went to fan of you. Clayton was right behind me, man. You graduated from Alabama in Birmingham High School. Yeah.  There you are. I'm real with it. So, moms went to A&M. My pops used to be a professor at A&M. He and pops went like the Nobel Peace Prize or something? He did a lot of- He was for the people. Oh, okay. He won a lot of journalism. He got an ADJ lifetime achievement. If I say, let me be fair, like you know Reverend Woods, that and that. Yeah, A&M Woods? Yeah, my pops- Hold on, hold on. The agitator? Yes. Martin Luther King friend? Yes. Like, get the- Dude, my pops rambled up. My pops was embedded. You used to find me any civil rights picture. My pops was there. Yeah. My granddad- You don't know what that is. Like my father, man- I know what your granddad is. He was, he was like, I mean, I'm going all the way back to the 50s. Like, Zimbabwe, Civil War. So, Waito Riots in South Africa. My pops, at the time, he was still in Chicago.   And then he came back to Chicago during the 60s, during the Civil Rights Movement. And then that's when they started WVON, The Voice of the Negro, which was like basically, basically black Twitter look. It was like black CNN.  He hired Don Conellius. That's Roy's daddy that hired Don Conellius. Yeah, man. You remember when they did American Soul? That dude, that was Roy's daddy who did that. Yeah. And my daddy didn't get no money from SoulTrain because he didn't even think the idea was good. He was wrong about that. It looked like that. He was way wrong about that. My pops fucking, Don Conellius. Don Conellius was the stories that was told to me. Don Conellius was going around Chicago, you know, getting money from folks to shoot the pilot for SoulTrain. My daddy gave him a rack. So about a month or two go by, he can't sell the pilot to SoulTrain.  My daddy go back to Don Conellius and go, nigga, nigga, where the money at?   My pops told Don Conellius, don't nobody want to watch a niggas dance for an hour. That probably wasn't the exact word. Don't nobody want to watch a niggas dance, what? For an hour. For an hour. But you got to remember, this is like 68, 69. You got to remember my daddy's pedigree.  Like his nigga been shot at, he been beat. Like the struggle ain't no game.  Are you trying to put niggas into a spelling bee on a goddamn TV show? All right, cuss them out, cuss them out.  What is my money on?  He got 46 hours. What do you think about our number? Two of them already, good luck with me getting out of the car.  Also at the time, I thought I was going to play baseball. You appreciate this. The fan used baseball team was trash in the 90s. OK.  And I thought, and I didn't know this, but at college, everybody's good. Just because we lost don't mean we suck, nigga. I showed up and was cut immediately. Boy, some team's going to pick that up. That's what you said. Just because we lost don't mean we suck. That is, man. It's like an NFL or stuff like that, man. Somebody go ahead and tape to the dugout. Don't get up to the Jaguars. They are. But yeah, so that's why I ended up, man. So when your dad went to Vietnam, he went there just reporting, though. My dad was in Vietnam. They were shooting everybody the same. Yeah, no, no, no. My dad was in Vietnam. He was in Vietnam then. He used to be shell shocked. Those met him. My dad used to, when I was like eight years old, man, my dad still suffered from it. He used to always say how hot it was over there. You know what I mean? Like when I was eight years old, I used to sleep with a bulletproof vest on. Stop talking to him, man. Just stop talking to him. Because he'll wake up shooting. And sometimes they'll wake up like, all right, son. And I'll be like, yeah, dad, don't shoot with the 4-5.   I'll be trying to talk about my life up here. Hey, man, welcome back to the 85th episode, man.  You want me to even went to Rwanda.  I'm the only motherfucker that can tolerate it, man. The land people that came out to be and their friends on the helicopter. Ask him. My dad was on the helicopter at the Hilton Hotel. The Hilton Hotel? Nah, that's a problem. Yeah, that is it. Not at the Hilton Hotel. It was some Hilton or something.  I'm talking about, bro, talk to me. I'm trying to give him, I'm trying to help him so he can get out the home. He just gets mad up, bro. I'm saying, I'm saying, it was a hotel, the famous hotel at the end of Vietnam that they always show. Ain't no famous hotel in the land. I'm saying the famous. I'm saying it's a halloween hotel. Is that what the name of it is? Yes, I said it the whole time.  You see how he tried to act like you was the chain man? We talking about the whole thing in Vietnam. Don't talk to this nigga no more. This nigga is crazy. Oh my god. So I get arrested, I get on probation. I start doing that now. What happened?  I'm stealing the jeans. Hold up, last night before he started talking about the Hilton in Vietnam, we was talking about family baseball. You asked me, I got cut from family baseball. For stealing jeans? No nigga, I could not hit the baseball. Oh. What when he starts stealing jeans? I had to find a new gift after I learned I couldn't hit a baseball. So it is like, did you start into depression and start stealing the jeans?   Yeah, I feel like that's not you. Hold on, so did you get like depressed and just started spiraling? Yeah, that's what I thought I was going to say. No, no, I'm good, I'm good. DC, what we doing? I'm reading this paper. What did that paper say? November 6th. November 6th. We gonna be in Greensboro, man, at the Greensboro Coliseum Complex. Yeah. In Greensboro, North Carolina. Greenboro, North Carolina. What day? November 6th. That's right. Hit the web site 85SelfShield.com. Okay, so everything else going good in baseball. You just can't hit this. No, baseball, baseball trash. Baseball happened. I go work at Shoneys. What made you think, what made you even think you was, what made you do that?  Like you was good in your area. You saw Michael Jordan down in Birmingham, right? No, I wasn't good in my area, but I was like, maybe. He was gonna get better here. If you just keep trying. He never did. Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson was from Alabama, right? You didn't win down there. From a baseball?  But you talking about Hall of Fame level talent. In baseball and football. I was on the bench. You can't compare me. But you made the team a little bit? The family? Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. Like three days of trials. No, nigga, this is the other thing. Trials was one day they made cuts every 75 minutes. Nigga, I was gone.  I'm here at 64. Damn. It was like 40 people. And they was like, we're gonna keep two of y'all by the end of the day. If we do uncut, if we call every 75 minutes, they call the numbers.  And so that was it. And so I started working. And then you get tired of being broke. Shonis. Yeah, I'm like what was it?  And then I went over to Golden Corral. Okay. That's old. Culinary. Culinary? Upgrade. You was coming, what you was doing at the job? Couldn't get a sweeper, what you was doing at the bar? No, I was serving, man. I was serving. I was getting that tip money. Cracking jokes at the table. That's low key open mic. Hell yeah. You figure out which joke work at this table, you do it at every table for the rest of the day. By the end of your shift, you got a five minute set.  And then when I saw what it was, when Ricky Smiley popped on Comment View, that was like, I was like, oh, that's some shit that I think I could try. Cause that was the first person from the crib.  Don't nobody give you no dreams other than marriage. Yeah. Go to college. Yeah. Get your job. Buy you a Buick. Or Cutlass Supreme. Yeah. I mean, my daddy was a Stankin' Lincoln man. He was a Buick. Y'all grew up with some class there. In Lincoln. Seven or eight.  And so. Creek Palestine. And so I started looking at stand up comedy.  So I was doing that for a minute. We got caught. Okay. We. Well, yeah, me and some other folks, but I mean, I ain't gonna. You had a blue jeans still in the ring. Nah, it wasn't just blue jeans. It was, it was in Dillocks. I could figure out a way to get it to you. All right, bet. Well, let's just move on. We don't want to dwell on that. So successful now. So, you know, that's what happened, man. I started doing stand up. And I would take the bus up to Atlanta, get booted uptown, take the bus back to Tallahassee. Which one is uptown though? Marietta or the WP Street? You know, the WP Street over in, over in Buckhead.  How'd he use this, yeah. This is Sunday night. This is like 98, 99. So this is Nard hosting Earthquake Era. Okay.  Shit, I'll just say me. The night I bombed and then the waitress still made me buy two drinks. Three. And I told the waitress, I said, I was a, I was one of the comedians. She said, you wasn't up there funny, baby. Oh my God. That wasn't comedy, baby. You got to buy two drinks. You sitting in my section. Bitch, we go to jail, I know what you did. So I get booed, wash, rinse, repeat. I go down to Macon, but then in the South what I peep is that if you gonna work every week, it can't just be black rooms. So that's why I started down across and over a bit. So you go to Biloxi, do the casinos.  And by that point, you get down to Miami dude, Marvin, Marvin Dixon had to Tuesday night at that point.  Cause white people make you feel like you should have made it already.  And I go, listen, I go to comedy shows, man. I've seen them all, bro.      You know what was fair in hindsight, what was fair about Atlanta, like the Atlanta scene was that- They hate everybody. They hate everybody. And next week is a clean slate. Yeah. That'll give you a chance to be good.  It's, let's see what this week brings. But that's what keep it, that's what keep it constant. And that's fair. Every show is different, you know what I mean? That's fair. If you learn that early, I started out in DC. I seen this one comedian who used to be around here bomb about 700 times in a row. He used to bomb about three times a night, but he would go up at every spot. Same bits? Same bit. When nobody pulled him to the side and go, ain't that bad? It didn't matter. It was just like you never said that. Everybody tried, but he just, he never gave up. That's that mechanism that they can't get past, though. That's that- Even when he didn't bomb, he didn't do good. And he just still, and he just eventually gave up. I don't even know if he gave up. I think he's still out there bombin' somewhere. No, so I just kept going on the road, bro. Like, that was my thing. Cause I could never- Who was one of the first people put you on the road with him? Like, with a name that was selling tickets and shit? I'd say the first nigga really put me on was probably Tommy Davidson and D.L. Huguet. That kind of happened in the same way. D.L. probably deep in the biggest solid without even realizing it. When I started in radio, so Ricky Smiley left Birmingham to go to Dallas to start with everything he got today. And so I took over for Ricky and the comedy club wouldn't let me host on the weekends cause as you know, that's the big X or whatever. That's who they should've had.  So that's what happened. So that's how I got on the radio in Birmingham. I go to the radio DJ, shout out to my man Buck Wilde. And Buck, he goes, well, we're not having any more comedians. Ricky left and no one can be as funny as Ricky. We just sound like a white man. Well, he's white, he's mixed.  That's the white man in them saying that, though. Okay. So then I know that the radio station hosts the Black Knight.  So let me host for D.L. Hughley. The club go cool. I go back to the radio station. Hey, comedy club just booked me for D.L. Hughley.  And they go cool. So then Friday night come, all I gotta do is keep radio man away from the comedy club, man. I go up and do three minutes.  Yeah.   I walk off stage, radio nigga standing right there. He says, see you Monday morning, bring cheerfully. And then I go in the green room and D.L. Hughley is there. And you go, you did a good job. Tell you what, open for me the whole weekend. D.L. ain't had to do that. And you know how like the whole G's travel, they already got a set. The show is set. They got they open. Right, and they definitely ain't letting nobody else on the show. I don't know what it was, man. But like that vouch gave me the tape to get booked everywhere else in the south. Yeah. Nashville, Chattanooga. Real niggas. Set it up. Real things.  They hating that. They bitching it.  That's all it is?  Man, they're looking what you did with it. You got a fucking, you got a deliver though. That's the thing.  Like that's the part of it that I always appreciated. But that's what I even now, man. I try to like, I try to connect with younger comics, man. Cause they the ones that's got all the sauce.  Cause they head to the street. I'm too busy writing, editing, being a daddy. Young niggas, when they broken, they hustling. They know every which way, which angle. They know which app. So put them on. Put them on the show with you.  Yeah, yeah.  It's like low key. I'm not even having an opener. I'm not, I don't care about your jokes. I'm paying for you to give me the game. And that's worth paying a little extra for. So, you know, that's what I try to do now because you know, like what Celo said, everybody is somebody because of somebody else. That's real, that's real right there. So, you know, that just never left me, man. Hell yeah. But I feel like as entertainers, man, sometimes you, it's like we kind of owe that to the entertainment game.  Cause somebody watching, somebody might see him. You know what I'm saying? He might just be, he might just be up. He might just be due for some good luck, man. Yeah.  But then be the same cast that's going to, just the other thing I learned, dawg. Like that's the one upside though, to work in the road growing, like instead of being in LA or New York, and it's probably the same, it's for sure the same shit in the eight. When you work the South and the Midwest, starting out, you see every week, you see all the different ways your career could go. You open for every type of comedian. You open for alcoholics. You open for the ones that's hustling. The ones that's on drugs. The ones that be disappearing. The weird ones. The ones who have a new joke in five, six years.   Yeah. Like, and you start seeing, oh, if I make that choice, that's gonna happen. If I make this choice.  You can see the younger comedians come in and how they come in and do that too. You know what I mean? Yeah. The cycle. Yeah.  Is I sit on Instagram and watch everybody. Any stand up joke, anything.  I don't want to see nothing. I'd be trying to unpack it. I don't even want to know what they talking about. I love it. I love it. Because I'm still a fan of the craft. And I send y'all, you know, doing what y'all do. But I just like watching what other folks are doing, man.  Oh, you mean like the whole internet craze? Like videos and everything? Not just sketches. I'm talking stand up too. Like I know a lot of comedians don't watch other comedians. Yeah. I'm gonna be watching a lot of comedians. You don't cook. No one's doing all that.  No, no, no. I'm just. It's to create. You want to make sure that your creative process is pure. My creativity don't run down. Exactly. Correct. So I'm like, well, let me see what they doing. Cause that started, cause I didn't book comic view. So I got mad. You never did comic view? No, I did it, but like, I got turned down the first two years. I never did.   Look at our everybody.  You can just tell me. Just don't call me and I will assume that I, but they would send you a letter. With a letter here. In the VHS tape. New Opt Inc. New Opt Inc. Shout out to Steve Harvey's old company. And with Sean McDonnell. Yeah. They used the word for him. Yeah. So they know. It was a blue logo with a little thin end. And the loop and the overlap the end.  You were not selected this year for the comic view. Keep trying. It's like a uplifting paragraph at the bottom. Jesus. And then you watch. And then you watched it and he was like, man.  I used to show up down into the comic views, man. Like. You know about that shit? Showing up to the cut. Being an alternate. That was, come on man. You be the alternate boy. I mean, you just going down there. You just waiting on something.  You know what I'm saying? Like everybody knew about it except you. You were just in the club with everybody there. It's the equivalent of flying standby on a flight. Yes. Trying to get on TV. Yeah. So you show up to the venue and hope someone else that's booked does not show up. Right. You hope he dies in a car crash. Yeah. Nobody had no cell phones like that. Well. And then the producer would just come out. Yeah. We don't, we don't see Zoo man. Ah. Dude. Come on. And just, it literally boiled down to who you knew. And so like I went, a comic view party grow year. The New Orleans. The New Orleans with Bruce Bruce. The one that they had to stop filming. Correct. That's when they stopped me. I was in the lobby and the only thing that I knew was Akatunde and Spank Brown. Spanky Brown. Spank Brown. R.I.P to Spanky. And so. Recipes. Those were my two dudes. But they were barely in their self. And I peep game. And I see Spanky trying to like get the producer's attention. He get, I'm like, oh no. I didn't drove all the way down there for nothing.   Shoddy came down there. And this nigga went out in the audience line and just started roasting niggas in line. Yeah.   I'm a roasting. Got on. Killed. Murdered. And I'm just like, that ain't, that ain't in me. That ain't what I do.  So I got pissed about it. So I went in that whole season. Is that, let me see who went. I can't not know what Tony was. Good way. I remember the last one though. So I sit down and I just, I watched comment view for a whole year and I made a list of every topic that every nigga discuss. Straight, spreadsheet, handwritten.   It is. Yeah. Made a list of everything that every nigga, every subject that was broken on the show that year. And the next year I just, like, I'll talk about anything but that stuff.  If nothing else, cause I'm different. So that just forced my writing into a place where even if I'm the funniest, let me at least start in a place that nobody else is cooking. And then if I can make it funny, now I'm funny and original. Yeah, man.  Oh, McDonald had a farm. No. So I'm at a farm, right? White people go crazy. Woo! Dude, did you hear the farm joke?  Oh, McDonald.    J.B. Smooth. Oh man. J.B. Smooth can go on stage. You can give him three sentences and he will do a 10 minute joke of three. Just callbacks. And you ever just seen an orange in the store? Just an orange. Just a motherfucking orange. It's a little green. I don't trust that little green part of the orange.  Why don't you pick that orange if it wasn't completely orange?  And he will just milk and milk and milk.    Nothing faster than Pume. Pume.  What is that shit? So seductive.       Man, I'm reading this paper DC. What is he in for? It says November the 5th, we supposed to be in like, North Charleston. Yeah, at the North Charleston. Yeah, exactly. And that's in South Carolina. You got to say that. So it's like, North Charleston.  That's right. That's on the brats of you. So that's the type of shit that's gonna be happening November the 5th when we get to Charleston, man. So make sure you get those tickets at the website 85 South Charleston.com. What's the date? 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That's BlueChew.com promo code 85 South and you'll receive your first month free. Just visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information and we would like to thank Blue Chew for sponsoring this podcast. I wish I could remember the joke he had about getting pulled over like a dude behind him, like a police or something like that, you know what I'm saying?  Yeah, making a sound and stuff like that and somebody was throwing rocks at him. Whatever it was, this was at a club in New York, man, you know what I mean? Like, one of the spots if it might came up in the New York bracket. When we did Last Comic Stand and watching this thing and you try to read them, goddamn cue cards. Y'all did Last Comic Stand together? Yeah. Now, he was one of the hosts. Okay. I did 2010. The one thing Last Comic Stand did for me, it made you complete. It was 2010. This was the first year when the first year. It was like the early days of live tweeting. Play me some pimping on this one, man. Here you go.   And every night, every Monday night, you had to get online and interact with all the people who was watching Last Comic Standing.  Oh, yeah. It was before the YouTube. For the most part.     And then after that, you went, oh man, y'all niggas just bored and just need something to hate. Oh, you ought to read some of the comments that be on this show. Oh, I'm sure it's YouTube. YouTube go hard. Yeah. Some motherfuckers wait to 58 minutes in. Do they ever tell you the truth? Do YouTube ever tell the truth too? Or not? No. No.    Oh, yeah.    It's 2 million followers. You mean to tell me we won't give her 300 comments on the show? Yeah.  Somebody lying there. Yeah, somebody is. It's true, man.    It's just women. You see what I'm saying? I don't tell your name, but he ain't not gonna know. I don't know why that man hating on me like that. Bro, we gonna put your name in the title and they still gonna be like, who it do? Oh my God, help us. Did you with that my baby song?  Man, we'll be back today for that show. Man, I gotta ask you about some of my favorite shit, man. You know, you've put in a lot of great work, man. You got a lot of work that you in the rotation with. You've been in the rotation since the premium blend. Yeah. 04. Yeah.  All the prank call out. Man. The last one I did. Yeah. That was 07. Man, tell me about it. How you put that together like, it's timeless. It's timeless comedy. Yeah. So, I was doing the prank calls and Ricky left, Ricky left Birmingham. So Ricky was known for prank. So when I got hired at 95.7, they was like, well, you gotta do pranks.  So then what I peed, I peed game that we was doing pranks. This is like 0203. This is pre-YouTube. Right. And I'm taking these pranks.  So I go to my boss. I'm like, I put these online. That's when I set up my webpage. I set up a webpage, put the prank calls on there. This one going, this one you went viral over email. Yeah. There was a time, young people. Tell them.  Like, that was, hey, trust me, this file, you didn't call a nigga and go, niggas, you hacked. You just trusted it. Yeah. How long did it take to download it? Shit, about 40 minutes.  So I start putting the CDs together and they started running me in consignment in the black-owned shops in town.   And so the prank started traveling around to other radio stations and that's how I started getting booked in other comedy clubs and other markets. It's because I would just send them pranks.  This is before USB stick.   I bet you got a cell phone with a little rotary dial on that motherfucker's ear.  That's how I would get booked. And so I do a CD and so that was his lady. So Hurricane Katrina happens. And... After the comic view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the Cheryl Underwood year. I remember they stopped, they stopped the film and I was there.  So you should have been leaving the city.  We ain't know if it was going to be that bad. None of us knew it was going to be that bad. No, but they stopped TV. It was like, nigga, we're not making no more TV. Everyone leave town.  No, no, no.  Too many people looking on you.  No shows or five shows. It was like 15 comedians, man. When I had already got stopped from the first comic view, I said, God damn. So you remember Katrina hit and people got relocated all over the south. Yeah.  I know what was happening in Houston. It was for sure happening in Birmingham. I just speak on Birmingham. The cats was coming and it was starting to be like, starting to be tense between folks. You know, a little bit of turf war, a little bit of just why these folks coming and taking out the guy.   I'm trying to be nice about it. It was tense because you had a lot of different sets mixing that normally don't have to mix. Yeah, I am. But I remember all the violence everywhere went up. But I remember still that everybody was coming together. I know the black folks definitely nicked. That's why it was violent. When you put black people together there's gonna be some violence. I'm talking about before when we saw everybody down there like that, you know what I'm saying? We saw that it was the black people that was just like that. Well, but we tell about when they left and they was violent. I'm not saying it wasn't love. There was definitely love in the mix of all of that and blankets and toys and shelter and all of that.  But it was also niggas that was like, yo, I'm here to get money. And the locals was like, no, you are not.   So I called the lady, told her we was gonna cut her social security check to give money to Hurricane Katrina victims.   Barbara. Barbara's check was the name of the call. And so I put that online just random day. Put it on my website. Two hours later my website crashed. Webmaster Carlin.  And we're okay.  Crash again. My website crashed like three days in a row.  And so that was the call. Somebody doing this or just the number. No, folks was flooding my website to download the call.  YouTube wasn't even a visual website yet. So I took that call and started doing more and more and putting it with other calls and then put that album together. And that was the one that did the best for me to this day. With the pranks, that was an error, man. What I figured out though is I got older once I got into my 30s. I couldn't keep doing them because prank calls, that's a young man's gun. To me, at least. Technology changed.  It's too hard. You prank call somebody in 03 the way I used to block my numbers with an AT&T column card. Come up and say AT&T on it. Yeah, just say it'd be a 720 Denver number. Oh yeah, they go after that. Yeah, curiosity. Yeah. Who called me for doing it? Prank calls used to be rooted in the curiosity of the unknown.  Right. Even in visual family, you send them the voicemail.  Also, as the pranks grew, I had to start prank calling people out of town and the thing with Birmingham, and this is what Ricky set up, Ricky Smiley set up an atmosphere where if I prank call you as love and you know me, you know the station, I'm in the community, you know I don't mean you know harm. Yeah. When the pranks grew, too many niggas in Birmingham knew my voice, so we started calling out of towners. Out of towner don't know me.  Right.  And my fucker ran up on me in Cleveland at a show. And I said, I was like, hi, this ain't... Oh, personally, he came up to me, like they do all that prank calls. She's like, hey, my fucker, let me tell you. Yeah. I ain't... I'm not finna fight you, sir. Not over a prank from three months ago. Wasn't like I was just pranking. I called him from Birmingham, he was in Cleveland, we did the prank, ha ha ha, hang up. Yeah. Three months later, I met the Cleveland improv down in the flats and that motherfucker waited patiently for me. Patiently at the merch table, just...  Yeah, like...   Yeah, he did. What is that? One of them... Hey, brother, do your thing. I'm here, nigga. What is that? You pull me in, you go, I just want you to know if I wanted to touch you. I can't. Push me off like that. Wow!  He gonna say that. At that point, I was like, all right, man, all right. Hell no. He's like, get at it. I did, man. I don't... I don't...   A lot of people might want to, like... I think it's a 97% rule with black people. Like, that's the most you can get.  You'll never be a hundred. Oh, of course not. No. 97 is the most. And that's not like a circle. But I'm saying, even if you didn't think I was funny, you wouldn't want to fight me. Right.  Like, you might be disappointed. Mm-hmm.  I still want to...  But some cats, but you can't play with people like that. You never know what somebody going through, too. In that few times, I'd say him, I was just, we came back from doing the show. We was somewhere doing the show and he had did a prank call or something like that and it was just talking about a dude getting a kidney or something like that. You know what I mean?  You know what I'm saying?  But the man got real for real and I'm listening to it and I know the difference. We both know the difference between comedy, you know what I'm saying?   It's really, it's improv. Right.  You can only script the first 30 seconds of the call. Yeah. Like that was, like the time when Jay Prince, you know the Jay Prince story. What's the Jay Prince story? So I prank called Jay Prince. Hello. Damn man, what the... Take me off this show.  Shout out to Jay Prince. Shout out to Jay Prince. Shout out to Jay Prince. Shout out to Jay Prince. Shout out to Jay Prince. Wait, wait, wait. You know it. Hold on. No, this is... I'm still alive. Maybe something had a happy ending. I'm still in the world. I'm still in the world.  Go ahead. So when the Chameleonary Pranks jumped off, there was a record label in Houston and they called me up and they go, we hear your stuff all over the city and we want to do a prank call, a celebrity prank call album. a pretty print-call album will be print-call celebrities. I'm like, all right, that's a bet. And so, I fly to Houston and they got the list set up of the celebrities that they, and it's all Texas-based people.  And they go, who you want to call first? I say, let's call J, because that's going to be the hardest prank. So we may as well do that one off the rip. Rip.   Because J-Prince is a hard motherfucker to prank, because when you think about a prank, if you're just talking just joke structure, right? Right. It's something silly to get you mad while I'm making impossible requests.  So I can't just call him and go, motherfucker, I'm gonna fight you. Like, that ain't enough. You got to strike people on the things that they hold dear and that are important to them. If I'm gonna make you upset, that's why niggas fight over your mama jokes. Right. Because that's something important to you. If a nigga talk about your outfit, if you talk about your girl, if you talk about your children, there is a set list, especially with black folks. Yes. But nigga, we have to fight right now. Right.  Yeah. I'm coming clean. So when you think about J-Prince, J-Prince runs a record label. What does the CEO of a record label hold near and dear? His artists, those are his children. So I called J-Prince. I called J-Prince and I told him, so hold up, before you even said it, at no point you didn't think none of this was a bad idea. Okay, backstory. This is my fault for trusting white people.    I told you! Hang on.   Because they ran the record label. I understand, man. They ran the record label, he goes, hey man, you want to prank call J-Prince? We know him. And I go, are you sure this is all right? Oh yeah, J's a good friend.  Again. Big, big, win big, nigga don't stare at me like that.  Come on, CD. Are you ready? Are you ready?   Shit! So you gotta call somebody that like... Let me see it a little. So you gonna do this regardless? You gotta go platinum. I got it.    You want my light? So it's a fucking, I got a record deal.   Come on, I'm so scared of this story, but go ahead Roy. So I call J and I say, amen. I run a record label. I be, I run a record store in town and none of these Rappelot artists is selling. They terrible. Oh my God. I ain't sold a single Rappelot record in two years.  J-Prince don't say a word. You know a prank.  J-Prince go, where you at? I go, what? Where you at? This J-Prince. Now you getting bucked now. I'm getting bucked with him because I'm just trying to loud talk him. At that point, I have no, again, the 30 seconds is up. Now we're improv land. So now I'm just loud talking him. You need to explain yourself. Explain to me why you charged me all this money, but it's all, where you at? That's all he kept saying. Slowly. Engineers start panicking in the room with me.  Another dude that was there, another dude from the record label, he come in the studio with me. Hey, J, we were just playing around. It's us at the label, where the LBD music, and just, sorry, J. And then J-Prince go. J, he stay with me, so I sit down. You over there, LBD music. I know exactly where you at. Hey man, turn the car around, and then he hung up the phone. And so everybody in the studio, shaking. I'll turn back to the same white dude. You're live, right? No, no, we're just in the studio. We're just recording the prank album. It's just a studio session. Okay. I'll turn back to, why do I go, am I safe? No. You in the same, you in the same city? Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, we figure, he's a friend. We'll call him again. Call him back, he don't answer. Call him back, he don't answer.   And I went back to the airport. From the studio. I was in Houston a total of four hours. I landed, prank call Jay Prince went back to the airport. So fast forward.  So fast forward, like 10, 15 years later, when Jay was on his book tour, he did Sway in the morning and he asked Sway. He asked Sway, Sway asked him about the story. He said, did this dude prank you?  And Jay just smiled and just said, I was just gonna go over there and laugh with him.  Shit like that. That's what I got to quit doing prank calls. I mean, you did pick. Yeah, it was great. We laugh about it now. But at the time, I made the right call. You did?  Oh, you left the whole city. I left, nigga, I left the city.  And he said he coming over to where you at. No bitch, I'm gone. I saw the same day ticket, nigga, at the counter. Do you know how much that costs? Not online, at the counter. I walked into the counter. One ticket to Birmingham, please.  You should have known that that was a bad idea. I knew exactly where you were. That's a big, win big proposition. See, that's why I can't. If that prank joke goes off, then I'm gonna do that prank called Jay Prince. If it went wrong. Shit. Stop talking about it, because he might still be mad. I'm not done. I'm just saying that I have nothing to do with it. I didn't tell him to tell that story.  Nah, I mean, it's, we good. Nah, I'm not done, man. We laughed about it. So it's all over.   What are you? Nah.  Why not push the envelope, man? Push that motherfucker. Yeah, so that was it, man. What was the TBS show? Oh, that was Sullivan and Son. Sullivan and Son. Yeah, yeah, the bar show. TBS. We ran that for three years. Shout out to the homie Steve Byrne, man. Steve Byrne, he really understated in terms of just what he does for the comedians. Cause he put, at the time, we was a sitcom with like five or six stand-up comedians on the show. Like in real time, like in real time.  That's the ticket. Yeah. Gotta give me some. I'm trying, man. I'm trying. I got this joint for Fox.  Man, pitch some shows while you here on here, bro.    You got to pitch to the streets too, bro. Show that probably when it come out.  You know what I am gonna come back and do? And I'ma do it with y'all. Cause it'll be done right. That's the real. I wanna do, not want, I'm going to. Cause you speak positive. Come on, man. Who made shit? We're came through with the job.  Come in here. Listen to what we're about to do with us. Bro, am I in? All right, we'll work. We'll work. We'll write you in. We'll write you in. We'll write you in. We can be an alternate. You gotta come in. Yeah. Give him that spike. See right here, everybody. Nah, I wanna do, I wanna do a parody. I'ma do a parody of Vlad TV. But we gotta do a parody. Ooh, we interviewing people from the 60s.   That would be dope, man.  Cause you know somebody had a little fish pie. I had a good question about silver rights. If you was a civil rights groupie, when did you spit game? Cause like Dr. King had, you know what he had, right? And that's what everybody say. Right. When do you pull your chicks before or after the march? You really kind of do it like, you meet them at the church and you let them know that you gonna be at the march. You know how you used to like kind of like barnstorm and hit all the churches and be like, all right now, Saturday morning, we gonna be ready. So they would go like all the quiet practices. You want to play? Come on over for a plate, Mr. Habernath. Yeah. So you kind of had to work the church circuit first. I think it was after the march. I think it was after the march, you gotta get everyone there good.  Hold up. We got game balance in this. My mother was mad at me. I was so mad at her. Man. What's going on, boy? She ain't coming to here with the usual. Respect to you, man.  Look, man, I love it, man. I told you we had to get you in the trap, man. I want to ask you about some of the Comedy Central shit, too, man, and how did you land over there? And you been, you know, keeping that relationship open and strong for a little bit. That was, I gotta give it up to two folks, Trevor, Noah, and Neil Brennan. Trevor, Noah, and Neil Brennan. Shout out to both of them, man. Shout out to Trevor, remember? Shout out to Trevor. One clap. Give him some clap, man. Give him some clap.  First story I did, we did a ride-along with a police department in Wisconsin.  Right. 20th anniversary of the Million Man March, I go to Trevor, and I go, let me go down there. All right, cool. To the watch. And that's a spot where you wouldn't figure some jokes, or you figure it ain't no commentary on what's going on. But what it was at the time, so Million Man March, 20th anniversary, the motto was justice or else. So they kept saying justice or else. So we just went to DC, I asked white folks, what you think or else mean? You don't know what they said.       It's all right. I'm letting white people know, they don't wanna see or else. They don't really want the or else. They don't want the or else. Cause what if we just said, you know what?      I'm just saying, if we just said, you know what?   Yeah, so you don't hear anything more than that. Except for the Elvis, cause Elvis was James Brown.  Pull the video up now.  And Elvis came out and did the same. No, what, what, what are the Beatles? Chuck Berry.  Everybody. Yeah. Stole. Stole. So, so I started doing daily show. At the same time, man, I've been able to just be blessed and get a couple sitcoms sold. You out of your business.  They cash that one. Now see, that's the way they cash it.  Cause I had a, I had a sitcom, it didn't go, but I had a sitcom we shot over in Birmingham, where I played a probation officer.   Let's do it again.   I'm with it. Y'all heard? Y'all heard it? Y'all heard this, didn't I? Roy, what we doing, Roy? We gon' write him in. We gon' write him in. We gon' write him in. We gon' write him in. I agree. Do it that. Man, we gon' write him in. You in it, you in it. You in it. You in it. You in it. You in it. Just like you right here, you are in it. You know my grandma break it again. You already in it, man. You know you can pull up on the set. We'll put you in there, man. You tell yourself, man. Like, I gon' get in there, Chris.  Who don't? I'm ready. Tell him, fly.  You get these, you get these opportunities, man.  Get other folks in the game. So that's what I'm trying to do to two folks. I'm gonna bless him, man.  Everybody's somebody because of somebody else.  Like, your jokes, they really stick around, like, somebody gotta cook these chicken nuggets, man. Man, let me ask y'all a question. I got a cousin that's a state trooper in Mississippi. Damn. Damn. Yeah, it's okay. In the blue on top. No, he the old school to do the brown.  That's all, so that's what I was about to say. He run errands in the police car in his regular clothes. Is that good for the community or bad for the community? That's good for the community. Because he need to be, they need to be familiar with him. Right, even outside. Right, so when he pulled somebody over and he was like, man, I just saw you at Kroger. Yeah. It's a small town. Yeah, it's Mississippi, man. It's a small state. He one of them cities where you can park the police car in the front yard and don't nobody, I got one, I got one, I got a cousin. He'll undercover police officer. Everybody know who he is. He still come out trying to get there, arrest motherfuckers. Think of them, he's scared. Hey, it doesn't even get that crazy.  Don't blow my cover. Like, bitch, we're at the family reunion. If you don't get that guy there, potato salad at the squad car. Ain't it weird when people reveal to you that they're a police officer?  You ever meet someone after the shows or whatever? Yeah, you can always tell who they are.   Nigga, I smoked in the police car.  You smoked in the police car. The crime is done. Right. You think you smoked in there? Nigga. Nigga? I drove one. But Nigga was hitting the light. Come on with it. In everything. And I'm just hitting the weed. Stop playing, man. I swear on everything.  That's a good solution.    Like what, famous? Man. It was a nigga cop, too. Don't say that. Buried that nigga already on thin ice with that police department.  Yeah, it's a man that will. Yes, they will. Turn in your body camera. We believe that they will. And we know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.  I swear. I don't tell my sister when we met, bank roll fresh. Got that recipe, bank roll fresh.  Why they have to delete so much of it.  I go with my cousin and the police car sometimes to Dollar Tree. But I don't like it.  Cous, I don't like it. Because you got to ride in the front seat. I don't want to ride in the front seat.   Yeah.   I trip that out. Can I make a vision? OK. My first car was a police car. For some reason, that's fitting. That's fitting.  No, no, no.  Or crowned it.  Right. No. Every time I would ride, they would just take off all that. Then you know, I'm like, it ain't me. None of them about riding. The crown had the big light on it too. Yeah, I think the little light on the side. It ain't work though. I just hold my arm out of it. Them old police cars are police favorite cars to pull over.   They already know the type of life you live in.  And you leave the light on it. You still see the flow. It like, it go out, it be like. You can always tell, like the difference like a police crown Vic, because they got bucking seats and like that, that throw up, like the floor that you can't vomit on. Mm. You're holding that matte float. Yeah. Yeah. That's the hard shit, man. Real bread, right? Niggas love them cars for some reason, though. Especially in Alabama. It's because of V-12. Nobody in Alabama, like no state rides more crown Vicks than Alabama. Everyone? Yeah. Even the longest. Alabama is a crown Vic and state. They love them. I don't know what you, a crown Vic or a Mercury? If they can't crown a crown Vic, they get a Mercury. Caprice classics.  You know I know. Niggas don't know those flowbuses on them guys now. Don't crown Vic. When you ride, they motherfuckers lift up. You don't feel natural. Bullshit, getting the police go with the super charge engineer that was good and that, then my guts got watered over. I wasn't around and bought a police car. I bought a car from a nigga who was on the run and didn't know it. Damn.  He was like, man, give me, give me, give me some honey.  Nigga, I swear, I rode there about two months. Paulie pulled me over and he was like, demarkers.  You ain't never switched to paperwork, man. Did you know you the buck? The title was lost. You know you could buy an old fire truck. You riding hot already. It's all right. Yeah, it's that me. That was a two-month-run car. Ain't never delivered.  You can buy an old fire truck for, like, $800. What? Where? Birmingham. I'm going to start shopping at Birmingham. You can buy an old fire truck after a certain mileage. They just put it out there.  It's an old auction. You can get, like, a wagon. I don't ever come through here and buy this old truck.  I don't want an ambulance. I don't want an ambulance.  I'm going to start buying an ambulance. I'm going to get an ambulance and be a little driver to get people to work with. Ooh, that's the name. G-wagon. Why not just get an ambulance and be an ambulance driver?  Technician Hospital for Cheap. I'm about to start buying an ambulance. I can't. You see? That's your hustle. Music cars. 85 South Ambulance Service. Don't translate that. No, because it's cheaper to get an Uber than it is to get an ambulance.  It's like Uber Black, but for ambulance. You can't trust it, though, because I don't, uh-uh.  Yeah, that's too much. Too much liability.  Too much liability.  He like, nigga, I am the ambulance. No, but first aid. I think you need to stay here. You're going to get somebody else. Yeah, we want to be able to render no first aid. First aid extra. You just got to get them.  Whatever they call you for, you don't get to decide.  I'm about to start getting some moving cars. That's what I'm looking for. Some moving cars. My mother been calling me about cars, and I've been sending her right to you, too. I need somebody with, like, 80 cars. I said, I know somebody who got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they asked more than everything. I said, call me on three way. They called it that. They be like, call those millers. You got cars. He said, I have a lot of cars. I have a lot of cars. What cars are you looking for? Oh, you looking to sell. Now I bought a regal for Manny Fresh.   You bought a Manny Fresh?   Cut the Monte Carlo with the regal, man. Get your roll on, man. Everybody get your muscle.  What about the wasn't it's on? It's like, cut this Monte Carlo's and regal. Yeah, I got the regal. I got the regal from the scene there. I'm getting my car. Can I have a car for you? What you want? Ray, you don't want to spend no money, man. You be bullshitting. I'm going to leave you no. Can I see that? I'm going to leave you no. Can I see that? I'm going to leave you no.  Man, you got to pay to play in the car. I said, love me. How much you want for that? He said, man, he's not allowed. He was like, dude. No, I know you, man. You don't really want to know. Hell no, man. I'm going to play with that man. Say it with him. Say it with him. I'm going to leave you no. What you want for that? I'm going to leave you no. You see the type of nigga ask you how much you want for the motherfucker. Just spend money and walk off like he put you in the game. Dude. So what you spend money on? Like, I'm using two for 89 procedures on cars. Okay. No. Two 80 dashes. If I can get this one, I know it's another one I can get my brown away. But check this out, it's just one thing about cars. Give me some of that.  Give me the neighboring.  You get what you pay for. Definitely.  I bought a 90C because it didn't run and I thought I was gonna rebuild it. Nope, no.   And you thought she was for real? And I thought I was gonna fix it. No.  Listen, everything has to be rebuilt and touched.  Let me tell you. Honestly, I don't see any little things. It's just one particular story. I understand this, it ain't the car sometimes. Sometimes it's about how you get the car. Am I right or wrong? Sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Now you're gonna turn the car to whatever you want to turn it to, it don't matter. But sometimes it's about how you get the car and who the car belongs to first sometimes. Am I right or wrong?  Now God, this ain't about me, but the fly know you ain't talking to him. You laughing at what I was about to say you weren't. All right, that's how we do it.  Nigga, the vintage here. The vintage, all right.  Well, you know you the vintage here. Every goddamn. You know I know. I'm just saying, look it.  Look, look, this one story, look, this one story. The lady is an old lady who had the car, you know what I'm saying, and it belonged to her husband, you know what I'm saying? I think it was one of the grand nationals or something like that. And I think it belonged to her son or something like that. Yeah, one owner. Ooh, I know that car. You know what I'm saying? She by herself, you know what I'm saying? And you know what I'm saying? She like, baby, my husband passed away from me and I said I never would sell it. You know what I mean? Pass in the car. Nah, he passed in the car, he just passed away. But that was all she had to remember, you know what I'm saying? And those bitches being compassionate like that, man. You know what I mean? He was just like, man, if you feel like that, it don't even matter. Bitch, how much you want for the car? I'm just like, god damn car, look, what you was the grand dad doing? I mean, I ain't even want to tell that story. You know what I'm saying? But the nigga been talking about me and that, you know? Look over here. Y'all talk to them. You buy them rebuilds? Mm-hmm. That's the best way to bounce sometimes. Really? Don't talk to this nigga, man. Don't talk to this nigga, man. Don't talk to this nigga, man. Don't talk to this nigga, man. You know, fly. Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all something. Fly. I was at the first show. I was at this and you know what I'm saying? First show when he rocked in the uptown. It was on the pictures right now. Y'all go to the Instagram. Check my Instagram. You did. You did rock for a little more. Long time. You know what I mean? Any nigga that fixed it in the auto zone parking lot? That me. That's, yeah. I love the park right there. That's his car right next to a little Caesar's. Yeah. In front of everybody. That car is important. That me. That dude who always can tell you what type of... No, cause I need help. What type of rent you need? Give me a $3.13. What do you need right here? $3.16. Give me a $3.13. Give me a $5.8. As soon as you get to it and tell you what it is, there ain't no goddamn $5.8. Amen. You didn't see, man. I saw you.  I was at the gas station and my battery died. My battery died. I was in the Cadillac. In the old school. I told you. The car died.     Jumped out.  I was like, man.  I ain't let you do that, man. Hell no. I broke you too hard, man. Then they say, where?   So I'm like, damn. Yeah.  I got you. Don't tell them nothing. In the city. Now I remember one time.  Sometimes people be bad luck. It ain't even the car. Sometimes the people that be bad luck. No, man. Because I'm going to tell you right now, man. But that nigga looked out.  You not have no portable. The battery jumped. I do. But you know what I mean? I'm supposed to buy. How many of them motherfuckers? And keep them in the car? Yeah. 60 bucks. I got 60 old schools. And when I'm in the old school, I usually have it. It just so happened that I didn't even know. You got too much confidence. Look, look, look. They have all that. We got the car. We're gonna make it. He had it soon. I still got them. We had an accident. We did a show. We had an accident. You know what I'm saying? You had an accident. Okay. I had an accident. Let's see what's up. Let's see what's up. Let's see what's up. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I did a брongnight. Brongnight. Right. Right. Brongnight. He's right. Right? You know what I'm saying? Homest bisque. Right. No, he's right. It's not. He's right. What did I tell you?  He was like, you trying to drive back tonight? I was like, see, man, I really wasn't trying to drive.  We drive, drive, drive. I was like, you know what, Carlos? You want to go back? We'll go tonight, no problem. Right. I'm Chris Jones, I'm the friend. Right, you drive. I'm Chris, that's what I'm talking about. I'm Carlos, I'm on the road with Carlos Miller, ain't nothing Carlos, you want to drive back, come on, ride with me. They do, but we have to take the real car back, right, right, Carlos? Nothing, cause he know he wrong. Let me tell you this, see, who law had mercy on Jesus? This boy, look, law had mercy. You know what, right? I remember, cause it was raining, it was raining so hard. Man, as soon as the show was over with, bro, you know what I'm saying, we leave, and we had to take the run a car back to the airport, you know what I'm saying?   Get the hydroplane, cause I won't put it in traffic. You know what I'm saying? Tiles baller than these bitches put it around here. I'm telling you, look here. DZ, when I came around that little curb, what'd you do? That motherfucker kept going, and then I saw the wall, I said, see, that's it. Boom, and when it hit the wall, I said, damn. Yeah, I said, I'm all right. I opened the door, I'm like, damn, I'm stuck in there. I was like, damn. Shit. Then I looked up, maybe like, I was thinking about like three, four cars pulled over, white dudes pulled over, construction motherfucker, pulled over like, hey, I think you can back out if I can get the stick, if I can get the, if I can get the plane to put it down. I said, all right, go ahead and put it down.  And I think I thought you were behind me.   This job, two different cars. I'm taking them back to the water car. We had an accident. Hold on. So okay, all right, all right, so look. So look, when he coming back, right? So he coming back, by the time he coming back now, the dude that put the plank back there, he said, I got the plank back there. If you want it, you want to back it on up.  Get in there. I'm like, as soon as I did like this, you know what I'm saying? Scoot it back a little bit. I said, oh yeah. I'm out in the, in the road nigga.  Nigga got through drinking, I was drinking. You gotta go. I was drinking, I was going to chill till the morning. Somebody had to go. Here we go. Bro, when I got the car out of the road, Los coming back around now. You know what I'm saying? I said, man, how you doing Los? Man, what's up, bro? I love you, bro. My life flashed before my eyes.   The car right here.   I swear to God, I'm not lying. So we go ahead, we take the car back to the rental car place. I swear to God. Y'all sit up here loud, bro. You know it. Oh my God, how mercy y'all sit up here a lot.  Why you ain't talking? Bro, let's get to it. Let's get to it. Okay, man. DC, when I seen it, nigga, he was crying, man. Man, look, bro, look, anyway, look. Anyway, bro, bro, the car intact, you know what I'm saying? It was a big old boom on the side, you know what I'm saying? Promises, bro, you know what I'm saying?  We didn't cry, bro. Where you been? We five hours away. Look, we five hours away. He's talking about where you been, man. Bro, we start riding, look, look. We start riding about an hour. We start riding about, look.  That's exactly what that nigga said. That nigga said, where you been? He said, can you know I had accident before when I had lost my memory? But I had remembered that I had forgot. You know what I'm saying?  I got the car. Okay, can we get to it? Let's get to it. Let's have you up and get to this, man. So we riding still. Maybe like another 45 minutes, maybe. So you guys had a terrible accident. We in Kentucky now. You know what I'm saying?  We coming from Ohio, you know what I'm saying? I thought you were coming from Alabama, nigga. Nah, we was in Ohio. I'm from Alabama. Look at that, check this out. We riding. We in Kentucky now, right? Okay. Bro, it's raining, and Carlos said, he's that. Man, what made you drive this car?  I said, don't chill out, man, because I'm still trying to tell him I had an accident. He don't believe I had an accident. He said, he said, the car good? I said, yeah, the car good. Why wouldn't the car be good? He said, got the lights on the dashboard off. I ain't even looking at the dashboard, because I'm still shook from the accident. I'm just trying to make sure I stay focused.  I said, the alternator. So I turned the headlights off.  Low jump over me, like, motherfucker, what you doing? I said, I'm trying to save the battery.  You know what I'm saying? I said, okay. So you're not putting the lights on together? And then I turned the lights on, and then the car slowed down.   I turned my phone on. Literally, I got my cell phone on, got my light on. So your phone is the headlight. My cell phone is the headlight now, you know what I'm saying? It's damn much more now. Bro, we're in the mountains, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm so mad at this.   I have a plane ticket. I said, car, goddamn it. He's not ready to know if something was wrong when I had the exit in. I'm just trying to get to the exit right quick, and we ain't trying to get pulled over right here. You know what I'm saying? Not in this car, not right now. Goddamn it, we get to the exit, bro. The exit stayed like two miles.  I'm going to just see what's up.  And Lose was like, oh, he just put on the seat belt. He said, I'm good, nigga. I'm good. I said, I'm good too, nigga.  Don't you worry about nothing. We going to get nothing. Now, I'm trying to go as fast as I can in case the car got to the coast, you know what I'm saying? Bro, we finally get up the hill, and it started to go out again.    I said, I, don't you worry about nothing? Don't you worry about nothing. We going to get up here. Man, we got up the hill. And soon we came in the gas station. I swear to God, I said, I told you what? I told you what? We ain't got another inch to go out, right here. We literally pulled up right there. The gas part was right there.  Now what you got to say?  But we had to get off the road. Wait a minute.  Right.  It's raining hard. It's raining hard.  It's raining hard. The police was right there, low. Exactly. And when the police was right there, I said, we got to go. I tried to pull off again. Low said, bitch, we can't go nowhere. I said, we can't stay here. Where you going? I swear to God, we can't stay here. Where you going? We get away from the whole car. On the hill, the hotel, like the hotel right here, the gas station, like on the hill right here.  Niggas, this is the worst Motel 6 I've ever seen. It looked like El Chapo trap house in that motherfucker. Facts. It's all type of motherfuckers walking around. Now, keep in mind, it's about damn near 3 in the morning. Oh, this is Motel where everybody outside.   You know what foot traffic is.  You know what I'm saying? There was a hotel right there. Hell no. Come on, now. Real dogs on paper can't stop the man. So look. Now we're down here. I'm just talking about Tila. Stay at this goddamn Motel 6, man.  But it's kind of like off in the woods.   In a runicall. I was like, nigga, buy a battery. We could buy a battery and then we could see if we can get to this goddamn shop. Man, we get to this shop.  But they nice as a motherfucker. They bad niggas sold us. Y'all don't get a burger from down in the street. I swear, I thought they were from the hangings.  Like literally, nigga. But this our last hope. Right. I said, no. This the last hope? Is it?  In the middle of nowhere, ain't nothing popping after this.  We gotta stay for dinner. I already knew for ain't nobody. Listen, I already knew something was wrong, dawg. We ain't seen nobody sitting late night. They were trying to get us fat.  And it was all your fault, Chris. Hold on. Let's get to the point. Look. We still ain't got nothing. I needed the alternator. Man, we get to these white people. We get to these white people's shop, man. We in that motherfucker about 10 minutes.  I can get you fixed up. Get it fixed up.  You can get it fixed up. Right, right, right. We go get it. We go get it fixed up. Got it right. You do it.  Then I looked around, they came back, and they were like, think we can get a picture? I was like, for what? Well, they say you the guy off MTV. I said, I'm told you. I told you he was somebody.    Man, they had a little son.  But guess what? They got to speak still. I'm the strength, bro.   I don't know what this prayer going to be. That man came out there. He said, hell, you owe me about $264. $364. $64. But he had that. That son never ran that good since he had it. That motherfucker was running amazing. Man, that nigga fixed everything.  Hell, yeah, he got it fixed up. You got a number. We got it. But we'll never think about it. We'll never find that place again. Never seen it again. Then when we were leaving, he was like, at low, he was just like, see, boy, I told you, everybody ain't like that. I said, I know. So they left. They was like, see you later, niggas.  I won't talk to the nigga, bro. See what's up, man? Every time I come with you.  Hey, man. DC, Roy got a new comedy special coming out, man. Where? Yeah, man. October 29th, Comedy Central. Imperfect message for you.  Come on. Now, October 29th.  So you gotta shout your people out on this show so you don't know that you ain't forgot them.  They already know it.   Shout out to Florida and them, though.   You graduate? Yeah. Yeah, it took me five, but I got it. Took me five. Took me five years. You did it. You supposed to take your five. You supposed to see some, yeah. I'm with them. Yeah, okay.   I'm self-educated. You finished? No, I'm self-educated. I'm just bullshitting.  You see what I'm talking about, dawg? Bro, dawg, dawg, dawg. Fly, don't do that. That's why you be doing that. Fly, don't do that, fly. Don't do that, man. Don't do that. Hey, man, lower back, but like I'm flyin' before my eyes, man. What you mean, man?  He didn't say, hello, who you been?  I turned around at the fucking... This is the most dramatic nigga you'll ever meet, man. Yeah, man. This is fun, man.  Come on, man. Don't let this be the last time you come through the trip, man. I'm sure. Bro, you wanted to find this cleverest comedian in the country, brother. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.  And like, we salute you, man. I appreciate it, man. Matter of fact... Also, shout out to Birmingham, Alabama, man. Birmingham, Alabama, and Mainland, man. Right, man. Shout out to your father, Alabama. My father, Aliceville, Alabama. You done heard of that? Mm-hmm. During Seville weather reports. That's one of the... You know how certain cities you only hear about when the tornado coming? Mm-hmm. That's what it is, man. Douglas County, Montgomery County, Aliceville, Red Claim...  Look at that.  Right. Man, they got damn. But y'all check me out, too, man, on that damn new season that roasts me on all death, you know what I mean? Damn, they can't tell Lana got some of the funniest comedies in the country, you know what I mean? And I got to say this, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is my first time coming on the 85 South Show. You know what I'm saying? Bitch, I supposed to bet here. But look at it. I'mma tell you this right here. This real talk. Carlos Miller, Roy Wood Jr., and DC Young Fly. All... are three of the funniest comedies in the country. Appreciate you, D. And bitch, I'm the other one. That's why I need y'all to follow me. And Chris Jones funny, man. This is how real comedies be, man, for real.  But it's real magic. We got real energy, you know what I mean? No, it's just dope with y'all doing what y'all created over here for yourselves, because it really is a blueprint for other cats. But y'all don't have nobody to really even look at to build this.  I was...  I was talking to Steelo from... Nigga from Ridiculous. Yeah, Steelo Brill. I was talking to Steelo about you and how you used to come out to L.A.  Like, regardless of whatever you was doing on IG, you still, like, it's always dope to see somebody hooting crack one code, but still trying to come back and do everything else. There you go. Oh, yeah.  The comedy store still had the black... the black night. Right, right. We talked to Sunday. Yeah. We talked to Sunday. We talked to Sunday.  That shit, man. Nigga wins this. And just, you know, being a cat from the south and understanding that transition from being and going from the south to being out on the West Coast and being on stage and then just got to make sure that folks come to you. It's like, you know how you see certain cats, you go, all right, then they're going to be all right. I don't need to watch no more of him here. Oh, he here? Do that? Yeah. Oh, that was a good joke. I don't need to see nothing else he doing ever again. Yeah. Then he's going to be all right. And then sure enough, years later, sitting on the couch with you, man.  So I appreciate y'all. I appreciate OG like these motherfuckers. You think what I'm saying? Who helped pay the way, you feel me? And by me knowing that, you still got to get those... I knew I had to go do that in order for you to just can't...   I'm ready to turn them up. Up there. The OG did it this way. Bet. I don't feel like I'm going to do the same thing with the OG did. And then I'm going to add my sauce to it. Yeah. Yeah, and then add your sauce.  Like, I remember, you know the fucking... You know used to be a good-ass time is doing comedy shows for dope boys.   Go ahead.    Go ahead. Do y'all things. Even if they had no money, it was still a good time. Damn.  What kind of dope? They pay me and no guy there. But I ain't never take it. Oh, okay.  I told me about one show. Roy, you call me one night. I don't know if you remember. You like smoke.  I said, Roy, get out of here. Get out of here.   Get my lighter, man. Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Man, my luck.  What you been?  What we doing? I'm reading this paper. What's that paper say? November 6th. Oh, I don't get it, but... We ain't. We gonna be in Greensboro, man. At the Greensboro Coliseum Complex. Yes. In Greensboro, North Carolina. Greenboro, North Carolina. What day? No, I been mulled. That's right. Hit the whips at 85SelfShield.com.


Let's see all the breakfasts on Plus TV Africa, Zikul and I took joins us this morning via Zoom. Zikul, it's good to have you join us complement of the season. Very same to you and Merry Christmas in advance to all the Plus TV family. Alright Dan, thank you so much. Let's start off with the leadership newspaper this morning. The headlines are quite interesting and also a bit of sad stories. Then you have on the leadership newspaper CBN Bows the Pressure Reviews Cash Withdrawal Policy. Now that's what the leadership is saying this morning. Individuals, corporate bodies get 500,000 Naira and 5 million Naira weekly limits. I'm attending to held challenges, MFLE tells reps. Quite interesting. CBN Governor should be allowed to function. That's also another writer you find underneath that. Just before we move away from the leadership, they are quite interesting headlines. APC PDP are daggers drawn over plots to disrupt the 2023 polls. Tunibu gave arms not bribe in viral video. APC campaign clarifies, I mean it's just very predictable, you know, the response. Again, Aquarium Madu loses bail bid to spend Christmas in the United Kingdom prison. Really sad. And another headline says President Mohamed Abu Hari's six national assemblies approval for one trillion Naira emergency funding. What's going on? Court orders in term for feature of XAGF's 899,000 dollar, you also find 304.5 million with 10 proptors. Well, this is some of the headlines we have this morning on the leadership newspaper. We'll quickly turn our attention from the leadership and let's look at the punch. The punch says fuel scarcity, depots dry up, Nigerians face bleak Christmas. Oh wow. Fuel queues worsen in Lagos, orders, marketers blame supply shortage, interstate commercial drivers, passengers be more on high costs of fuel and fare. To be very honest, you know, I think Nigerians are going through a lot. No, I don't think Nigerians are really going through a lot. Filling stations closed down over unavailability of petrol. Emmerthly bouse of pressure raises cash limit to 500,000 and 5 million Naira. Harassing CBN governor, Syracuse, United Kingdom law makers, advices, DSS. Buhari six fresh domestic loan of 819 billion Naira and you have debt he's 22.5 trillion. We're talking about domestic, you know, debts now. Like a front hall, Eastern Railway Projects, that's what the federal government is saying. Or Caterban Corp detained for killing Lagos motorcyclists. I remember that, you know, a sudden incident that happened in Ajah, if I'm not mistaken. PDP APC clash over alleged Tunibu rigging plots. That's what the punch has to say this morning. The nation is what we have next. And the nation says how blue light rail will benefit Lagos by Song Olu. Test running of the project begins Buhari to Kikov phase two in January. CBN raises weekly cash to draw limit to 500,000 Naira. Corporate bond is free to draw 1 million weekly. January nine takeoff dates, remands. Well you see the question of how far we have fared or how far we're faring with circulation. Because up until this moment, I haven't set my eyes on the new Naira note. So I haven't seen it, I really don't know what it looks like. Can you imagine how many persons have not seen it? And so how do you identify if this is a fake? Because there are several reports that are saying that this fake production of this currency, it's a lot of trouble. APC challenges PDP on plots to derail 2023 elections. INEK admits seeming overvoting in Oshun. That's Oshun state and Oshun state, by the way. We'll just leave it at that and then turn our attention to the daily trust before we have a Zika Uyai to come in to share his thoughts. Troops kills cause of iPop terrorists in Enugo and Eboi. And you find CBN raises individual cash withdrawal limits to 500,000 weekly. This might just be dominating all of the papers this morning. New tide, air travel is lament, delays, cancellation of flights. We can only get better, we hope that it will get better with the aviation sector. COVID-19 tests removed as Niger gets 95,000 slot. Find out what that's about. Part, SOHC kills 11 in Zaria. Federal government launches application to monitor capital projects.  Buhari's 6,819.5 billion dollar supplementary budget as deficit heats, 8.17 trillion dollar, they say he who goes, boring goes assuring. That's the very popular thing. And I'm sure that Ezeko Uyai would not be thinking differently from this. But Ezeko, it's really good to see you this morning and thank you for joining us. It's always a delight to have you on the breakfast. Thank you for having me. It's always my own pleasure and privilege to be with you. So, I mean, let's start off with the papers this morning. What is this dominating all of the headlines? It's about the pressure according to some of the headlines. I see the CBN governor has about to pressure and the review of cash withdrawal policy. What do you make of it? 500,000 are for individuals and 5 million are for organizations. Yeah, I think it is the responsibility of every reasonable leadership to listen to the people. Now, when you make a policy, it's not that you didn't have enough consultation. Oftentimes it's that there may be something could come up or there's a perspective that you didn't look at. And if the people raise that perspective, it's only proper for you to listen to and then adjust as would be in the better interest of the generality of the people. That's the way I look at it. When you now put in terms of bowing to pressure, it's like it's something you were resisting and then the people now force you to take that decision. I don't think that there was enough time for you to have said that he resisted. I think he brought up the policy and the people reacted to the policy. He went back and looked at what the people said and then reacted to what the people said. I think it makes sense. You could say that for you to come up with a policy, you need to do a lot more consultation and not to make mistakes on fundamentals. I would agree with that argument. And I also agree that the change from 100,000 to 500,000 for individuals is actually very much welcome. And then taking it to 5 million for corporate bodies is also proper. What I would say is that I'm in the construction industry. And sometimes paying the workers, the limit might be too meager for you to be able to pay your workers those daily wages. A lot of them may not want to go on bank transfers for one reason or the other. And there's this issue of you've done a transfer, you've gotten your account debited and yet the other person says, I've not seen it. And a lot of times they actually write it, it does not reflect. So I think that for such small amount of money, you may need to have some level of cash. And depending on the size of the project, that cash limit that they had before was absolutely on the very low side. And I think reacting to it where they have done, in my opinion, is proper and it just means that they are listening. And that's good. They could have said, no, no, we are demanding, we've said it and that's it.  But listening to the people and reacting should be held as people who are responsive and not necessarily as bowing to pressure. Oh, well, still on the leadership newspaper this morning, I'd like you also to respond to the fact that the CBN governor had not respected or honored the invitation of the assembly. That's the National Assembly. And he's actually stated another one that is attending to his health issues. This is actually the latest report because prior to now, he said he had engagement outside of the country, of course, he was in company of the president. Now he said he's dealing with health issues. What do you make of this? Because it seems like it's a pattern with public officials where you have the National Assembly inviting them. And then there's always a tendency of not showing up. Several excuses. Ezekiah, can you hear me please? Well, we're hoping that we establish a contact and connection with Ezekiah this morning of the press. And the big one, which I hope that he will answer, is the pattern. It seemed like a very popular one amongst government officials. Necessarily governments representative, however, it has been those who are elected or those who are appointed to occupy various agencies or offices, however the case may be. So this is one that a lot of persons are talking about. Ezekiah, it's good to have you join us again. We apologize for the bad network. Ezekiah, can you hear me? Ezekiah, if you can hear me, please unmute your device. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you now. Loud and clear. Good. So I'd like to share your thoughts on Godwin Mephiles of the Central Bank of Nigeria and I've been very specific here, of his excuse of not honoring the invitation of the National Assembly. What do you make of this? It's a pattern among the elites, the ruling class. Yeah, so sad I was actually gone halfway on that question. I didn't know I was talking to myself like winking in the dark. Okay, they say, as you make your bed, you lie on it. He made his bed and he's lying on it, good or bad. He should blame himself.  Why would you do that? I mean, it was absolutely preposterous and in my very, very considered opinion unreasonable.  Why would you want to mix two things? By the time you got yourself politically involved, you effectively disqualified yourself from that office because nobody would trust you again. You know, they will see you as being partisan. And even in being partisan, even within APC, they have blocks and factions. I can tell you that for free. So whatever, they will try to find out where you belong. For instance, there was this issue of him having acquired hundreds of bosses. And the question is, where are those bosses? There's a lot of conspiracy theories that he's giving it to another party or so. This loyalty is being questioned and because of that, and that shouldn't be the case, you shouldn't be talking of loyalty at this point. You are expected to be extremely neutral or did he sell those bosses and he returned them to the people he hired them from or what's the explanation? So there's a lot of things about him. And then finally, you know, health is one area that you can't really question. He might be smart by saying, I'm staying back on health grounds. You know, we are in Nigeria where the health of a public servant is a private property, which is wrong. If you are a public servant, your health should be a public property. If you don't want to be subjected to public scrutiny, then resign and leave your private life. Nobody wants to know about my health records for now. But the moment I get to be the governor of Acquirebom said, they have a right to know everything about me. I'm no longer a private citizen until the day I step down from that office. So going by that, a lot of people are saying, this guy ain't coming back, man. He knows what's waiting for him back home. And that could be another conspiracy theory. So whichever way it goes, he made his bed and he's got a lie on it. All right. Let's also look at another issue here. It's also on the punch newspaper, Central Criminal Court in the United Kingdom has again refused to grant bail to former Senate president, Ike Acquiremado. And that's on the grounds that he probably would flee, you know. That's the argument. Even after you have shorties and guarantees of what have you. The thing is, there are two sides to this story. The first is that usually the whites, let me just make a general statement, are known from carrying out proper investigation before arrest. It's Nigerians that we have been accusing them of going for the arrest first before carrying out the investigations. And this man has been arrested for this period of time and is still being kept. For me, there's something missing. I can't seem to place what it is because I would have expected that he would have been charged to court normally. Yes, he's been, but the weight of evidence would have been presented enough for him to be either convicted or released.  And again, they are starting to do it in a Nigerian way. If there's more to eat, come public, come clear. Because Ecuador is somebody that's not just a Nigerian.  But he's been a deputy Senate president. That means one of the top ranking few in the whole country. So his case is of importance and of relevance and of interest to virtually every Nigerian. So there's something I can't seem to place my fingers on, because there's also been some confessions as per the guy has agreed that there were agreements, everything came openly. There wasn't anything spooky about it. He went and then declared in getting the visa. It wasn't through a mutilated or a masked reason. It was clear what was to be done. And then the young guy is also there. So where is the missing link? There's something I'm really not am getting. If it was in Nigeria, I would have said, oh, Nigerian way, they will keep them there. Maybe political victimization. But those things don't just work out there. So Mr. Equerimadu's case is one that I really can't put my finger as to what the British authorities are doing. All right then. Let's move away from the Equerimadu's case. There's still also another issue. It's boldly written on the punch, the first scarcity and the fact that we're out of product. Their pose are dry, are dried up and Nigerians are facing a big Christmas already. Not will, but are already facing, because, I mean, I'm really surprised at seeing the queues returning. The queues of return, you know, it's just very difficult, especially if you live in this part of the world. I'm talking about leaguers now. What are your thoughts? Is NMPC still the sole importer of this product? What's going on? As of the last time, I'm not sure there's been a policy change. But again, you see, Nigeria is a very interesting country. I would say this again. Now, the question of wealth subsidy is one that is a major debate here and there. And the thinking in my own conspiracy theory is that you get into a certain reality, a reprieve comes from a relief, and then you relapse into your short memory. They say the memory of man is treacherous. So we are having some level of hardship. We are buying it at 250, 280, depending on where you are. I think if they sustained that long enough, we would have settled into it and accepted it and accepted it as our reality. And if they can even make us to beg for it, please bring, I beg, bring. If they sustained this scarcity, we might just be able to come to a point where if a policy is taken, it's better. Let it just come. Let's move on. So if that is their thinking, then I think that they've probably reached the stage of accepting the new price, the new reality. They want us to come to a point of begging for it so that when they make it available, we can even thank them and clap for them for that reason. It's about governance style and understanding Nigerians and them thinking in terms of what you want. I don't know if you can still hear me. Loud and clear. Okay. So like I was saying, these are the strategies that they sometimes use and sad but true. Okay. A lot of people are still asking, there's a lot of question around why the minister of petroleum seemed not to be bothered about all this going on, from the fact that once upon a time in 2022, we had products, you know, substandard products being imported into the country to all this going on and it's quite saddening. Now, when you say the minister of petroleum, you start to think in a certain direction. When we say Mr. President, people are like, oh, okay. Our president is just waiting for time to expire and let him move to Dara and have his life with his 150 cows, you know, that's on one hand. On the other hand, there's something I would want to say that Mr. President is doing. It's something I've advocated for a long time. The memory of Nigerians is treacherous. Today, Gerald Abdul Salam is hailed any way he goes, you know. Not because he was so faultless or incorruptible, I don't want to look at the other side of the coin, but because he handed over in less than a year after we had suffered in the hands of our Agar, IBB and then Abacha. So Nigerians forgive based on certain fundamentals. Number two, if you look at a man like my Agar good lord, Jonathan, from a president, there are no words they didn't use on that man. He was clueless. He was this. He himself admitted that he was about the most abused president in the history of Nigeria, if not the whole world. But today, the man is smelling like a rose and the toast of international communities. Why? He gave us free, fair, credible elections, relatively. And I told Mr. President, time and time again, I said, Agar, forget economy, zero. You have failed. Forget anti-corruption. Zero. You have failed. Forget security. You have failed. Let me not say zero, zero, zero. You have failed. You have failed. You have failed. But sir, there is a golden bullet. That golden bullet is give us free, fair, credible elections and you will exit in a blaze of glory. You will be smelling like a rose. You will be the toast of the nations. That is Nigeria for you. And for the first time, I think that he's taking that advice. My prayer is that he will remain focused and steady the cost to the very end and give us free, fair, credible elections. If you look at the beavers and sticking to the beavers, if you look at the electoral act, you might have signed inadvertently, maybe in not in error, but without really knowing what was going. But it's turning out for his good. The electoral act, the beavers, the CBN monetary policies is aimed at demonetizing the electoral process. And Nigerians may feel the pain, but it might come up to be one of the biggest, best decisions that Mr. President has taken. And as a player in that field right now, look, come and throw to me the weight of your superior argument on how my life is going to be better and not how you're going to buy my vote for $2,000, a bag of salt, a cup of salt, two cups of curry, and then you ruin my life for another four to eight years. Whatever we need to go through today to make sure that the people that want to depend on money don't see money. When they realize that the money will not come, they are going to start to look at those of us that don't have money, but have ideas, but have the heart, but have the understanding of government and governance, which are the people that are really needed at a time like this. Nigeria is a dire threat. All the indices of development and progress, we are on the wrong end of it. So we need the very best tested hands and not the richest hands. This issue of he has money, he has money has to be brought away, taken away from our politics so that we can have a future that we can be proud of. So if Mr. President can just sit on this till he leaves for the next few days or weeks, because he can actually count the weeks as days, and very soon we start counting the days as hours. If he can just sit on it, don't allow any pressure, NFL may be in problems, but don't allow a change in the system that will, for any reason in the world, tamper with the monetary policy as concerning making money not available for elections beyond a certain threshold. I think that he will end up getting people to start thinking of how they can get people to vote for them without money, without investment, which is what campaign is all about in the first instance. If you do that, people will now go back to thinking and then looking at the criteria that they are putting up, looking at the character, and the public will be able to now sift through and pick the best-seated person for the office, and Nigeria will be the better for it. Oh well, let's see how that pans out, especially when domestic debts have been increased to about 8.17 trillion Naira, with a total density of 42.8 trillion Naira. But I'd like to ask you on this recent one, the president again has applied for a six-fresh loan of 819 billion Naira, domestic debt actually, that's what it is, and the purpose for this is so he could, we can actually fix the infrastructure that has been destroyed by the floods across the different states of the federation. We're talking about 36 states, including the FCT. So yes, this is what this is for, but what are your thoughts on this really? The domestic debts now, it's a 22 point. Two things. First, fantastic argument. Nigerians are smart enough, but veiled intention. Are we looking for money to run politics? Or are we really, really bothered?  And let this come after the politics, so that we know that the money that we borrow now, which is adding to a very terrible situation, we really have not sat down to analyze the implication of the borrowings. Like I said, I'm contesting the governorship of Akwaibom state. And in Akwaibom state, we had a debt burden of over 250 billion. When you just oppose that with the running of government and the systems that we need, it means that we are definitely going to have to change the music and go low profile. There's an emergency. Now, if I feel this level of pressure as one who wants to be a governor, I do not know to what extent our frontline runners have looked at the debt burden of Nigeria and realize the understandings that have had on this debt and how they affect us on the long run. I think it's a major issue whenever they have a debate. Let that become one of the most topical issues. Let's address debt burden of Nigeria. Do you understand the present situation? Do you understand the different types of agreements that we've had on this debt at the public in Akwaibom, they are not public as per the terms and conditions because non-concessional debt, the ISPs, all those different dynamics must be understood because there are some debts that you're just not going to be able to touch because of how it was acquired and the terms and conditions that were there. And it may be the interest and you must penalties, penalties, penalties. And you must come and show yourself as somebody that has integrity that respect agreements with Nigerians are not known for. So don't just think you just come up and then boom, we know, we don't agree, we don't agree. For goodness sake, we need to have a certain mindset and be able to tell the international communities that we respect agreements, conventions and whatever commitments we have. It's a very big competition. But I don't know what the rationality is. We're still grappling with revenue issues as a matter of fact, revenue crisis. And then we're still borrowing. This, we're talking about domestic debts now, 22.5 trillion now. We don't think that we're going to make it. Don't we have other means of, you know, meeting our needs without borrowing? Is borrowing the only option for Nigeria, especially this administration? We have to go at this point now. Ezeko and Yaitou, thank you so much for being part of the show. We appreciate your time and we look forward to sharing more of your thoughts and any other time on the breakfast. We'll take a break and when we return, we'll be looking at the first major conversation right here. The NLC is demanding a reversal of privatization of electricity sector and it regents the water bill. Stay with us.