Thank you very much for inviting me here. I believe my great-grandfather came here. My grandmother came here. My father came here. So it's an honor for me. And I'm looking forward to your questions. Okay. Let me just remind everyone that I'm happy to take your questions. But please write them on the cards provided and hand them before. Shouted questions will not be picked up by our microphones. And if you disturb this proceeding, we will be escorted out. So just wanted to make that clear. Okay. So since Mr. Modi has come to power, India's economy has improved, according to independent economic assessments. What's your take on the current government's economic policies? Have they improved the country's position? I mean, what we see on the ground is massive unemployment and dramatic increase in prices. And this is one of the reasons we won the Karnataka election, was that there was a feeling in India that there is a set of people who have a huge amount of wealth, and then there's a large mass of Indian people who are poor and struggling, huge income disparities, and unemployment. I think it's a 40-year high for unemployment. So to say that the economy is doing well, I don't quite agree with it. And are there particular policies that are cause for concern or that should be changed? I think the central difference between how we see it and how the BJP sees it is we believe in decentralization of power. We believe in supporting the small and medium industries, and we believe that they are the engine of growth in India, and they tend to concentrate power and wealth in few limited people. So that's, I would say, broadly that's the difference in the economic perspective. If your party were to return to power, what changes would it seek to implement to ensure the rights of minorities in India? I mean, India has a very robust system already in place. That system has been weakened, right? But it's not that that system doesn't exist. If the conversation, the democratic conversation is allowed to be fostered, then these issues will settle themselves. So the rule of law is in place? No, it's not. You have to have an independent set of institutions that are not pressurized and controlled. And that's been the norm in India. This is an aberration of what is taking place in India. So from our perspective, the foundations of democracy in India are very strong. And the protections exist, but they're being sort of disturbed. And you see that if Congress came to power, they could quickly be restored? Quickly, I don't know, but the Congress Party is the institution that conceptualized them in the first place. So we don't view them as our institutions. We view them as institutions of the state. And so we ensured that there was independence and neutrality in these institutions. And it's not difficult to do if that's what you're trying to do. Let me ask you about, again, welcome to the press club. And let me ask you about press freedom, a very important issue for us all. I should full disclosure. My colleague, Vivek Raghavanshi, was arrested several weeks ago and charged with an accused of espionage. He's an Indian citizen. And he's been working for my company for more than 30 years as a journalist. And I wanted to ask you what that says about the state of press freedom in India when someone can be just accused of, you know, even after someone with such a reputation can be accused in such a cavalier manner. No, I think the fact that there is a weakening of press freedoms, this is not hidden. I mean, everybody knows it. It's apparent in India. The rest of the world can see it. And I think press freedom is very, very critical for a democracy. I mean, one should be open to criticism and one should listen to criticism. I mean, that's the feedback loop that builds democracies. And definitely there is a weakening of press freedom. And it's not just press freedom. It's on multiple axes. On multiple axes, there is a clamp down on the institutional framework that allowed India to talk, that allowed the Indian people to negotiate. I view India as a negotiation between its people, between different languages, different cultures, different histories. And the architecture that Mahatma Gandhi set up was to allow that negotiation to be carried out fairly and freely. And that structure that allows the negotiation between India's people is coming under pressure. I mean, this is a question you should ask Mr. Modi. So, more apt. I don't know how you'll get there. As soon as we get him here. I don't know how you'll get there. I think we better question directed at him. Okay. What are your concerns with regard to the use of the citizenship law to expel Muslim Indians who have lived in India for generations? How would you handle things differently? I think all Indian people have a right to expression. All Indian people have a right to religious freedom. All Indian communities should feel free to express themselves. So, I don't differentiate between any community, any caste. I think India, as I mentioned just now, is a conversation. And the freer and more open that conversation, the more powerful India becomes. Okay.  Can you explain what you mean by this? I mean, explained in the sentence, right? They sort of generate a certain amount of hatred in society. They polarize society. And they're not inclusive. They don't embrace everybody. And they divide society. That's what that's. And that's damaging, in my view, to India. Because India has always had a tradition of conversation, of openness. All our great leaders, spiritual, political, Mahatma Gandhi, Buddha, all of them, promoted harmony, promoted peace, promoted conversation. But it's in our culture, it's in our history to sort of bring people together and have these dialogues. So that's, I think it's a difference in ideology between us and the BJP. We feel India should be allowed to express itself. And we feel that political leaders should be comfortable in sort of being questioned. And should learn from that question. So, I mean, it's just a difference in viewpoint. For such a divisive figure, Modi maintains very high levels. In fact, worldwide high levels of popularity. Why do you think that's the case? Why does so many Indians support the Modi government? I mean, there is a definite capture of the institutions of the country. There is a definite capture of the press in the country. I'm not convinced that, you know, I don't believe everything I hear. I walked across India, worked from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. And talked directly to millions of Indian people, millions of Indian people. And they didn't seem very happy to me. And they were very clear that there were serious issues with regards to unemployment. There was massive price rise. So there was an angst in the people. And, you know, look at the Karnataka election and wait and watch the next three or four state elections. That I think is a better indicator of what's going to happen. You're here in Washington. Washington has been sort of has a cozying up, if you will, to the Modi government. Do you feel that this is a mistake? Do you feel like this is not a... Who am I to advise Washington on what they want to do? I mean, it's their choice. They have to decide about these things. It's pretty clear from our perspective where we've got to go. There are certain values that we protect. And we're very serious about protecting those values. As I said, the conversation between the people of India. The idea that all Indians should have space, equal space, equal expression. These are things that for us are non-negotiable and we fight for them and we pay the price. What is your reaction to Prime Minister Modi's statement that not an inch of land has been lost to the border with China? And can you talk about India's relationship with China and how it's changing?  It's an accepted fact. I think 1500 square kilometers land the size of Delhi is occupied by them. And I think it's absolutely unacceptable. Prime Minister seems to believe otherwise. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, maybe he knows something we don't know. I'm going to ask about Kashmir. India is positioning Kashmir as a tourist destination while certain populations are persecuted. Do you see this as the path to prosperity for that region? No, I think everybody in India has a democratic right. Every single person in India should be allowed to be part of the conversation. I think there are things that can be improved in Jammu and Kashmir with regards to that conversation. And we are committed to improving the democratic conversation in Jammu and Kashmir. You talked about secularism and democracy while opposing the Hindu party, BJP. However, Congress in Kerala has been in alliance with the Muslim party, Muslim League in Kerala, the state from which you were for MP for more than 70 years. Muslim League is a completely secular party. There's nothing non-secular about the Muslim League.  Sorry about that. I think the person hasn't studied the Muslim League. Back to politics. How united is the opposition in India? And why isn't Congress supporting Kajrawal on the ordinance issue? That's an internal discussion we are having. The opposition is pretty well united. And I think it's getting more and more united. We are having conversations with all the opposition. And I think quite a lot of good work is happening there. I mean it's a complicated discussion because there are spaces where we are competing also with the opposition. So it's a little bit of give and take is required, but I'm confident that that will happen. So given the electoral strength of the BJP, would Congress now be willing to consider being part of a coalition government that it does not lead? Well, I mean these are questions that need to be asked to the Congress president because he's the decision maker. I think the Congress party will do very well in the next election. I think it will surprise people because I think there is a hidden undercurrent building and I think will surprise people. And I'm not entirely convinced about this idea that Mr. Narendra Modi is going to win the 24 elections. I think it's not as simple as people make out. If you just do the math, a united opposition will defeat the BJP on its own without any electoral math. What can the international community, what role is there for the international community to prevent a slide towards authoritarianism? See, it's our job, it's our business and it's our work to fight the battle for democracy in India. And it's something that we understand, we accept and we do. But the thing to remember is that Indian democracy is a global public good. Because India is large enough that a collapse in democracy in India will have an impact on the world. So that's for you to think about how much you value Indian democracy. But for us it's an internal matter and it's a fight that we are committed to and we are going to win. President Biden will host Prime Minister Modi for an official state visit later this month. The White House said in a statement that the visit will strengthen both countries' shared commitment to a free, open, prosperous and secure Indo-Pacific. And deep in strategic partnerships and defense, clean energy and space, what impact do you see the visit having? I mean, let's see what happens in the visit. I think that the Prime Minister come here and let the visit take place and then let's see. I don't want to sort of prejudge this. Yeah, but I do think the relationship between India and the United States is very, very important. I think it's also important that we broad-based the relationship. It's important to have a defense relationship. But I think we need to also consider other areas and we need to have a vision for other spaces other than defense. Do you see India as a center between Russia and China and U.S. interests? Do you see it benefiting from the interplay of these countries? Or do you see it taking almost a leadership role in the Indo-Pacific in terms of economic issues? Look, India has to do what's in itself interest, right? And that's what guides us. But as a people, we are committed to a democratic vision. So, I myself am not entirely convinced about the sort of autocratic vision that is being promoted. And I think that it's very important that democracy is protected on the planet, right? So, India has a role there. India, of course, has its view on things. And I think that view should be put on the table. But I don't think one should think about these things as, oh, you're the center of things. I think that could be arrogant. We understand the strengths that we bring to the table, right? Democratic values, data. These are some of the things that technology, a highly educated, technically educated population, these are strengths. And I think we have to chart our course based on these strengths. This is a question from the audience. India started as a secular state, but is currently leaning toward a Hindu state. Is that a threat to democracy? Is India losing its original ideology from your perspective? I think there's a fight on in India. There are two visions of India. There is the vision that the BJP has. It's a centralizing vision. It's a polarizing vision. And then there's another vision equally strong. In fact, if you ask me much stronger, but not expressing itself that effectively right now, which is a decentralized view and embracing vision, a sensitive, compassionate vision. And I am absolutely convinced that this is a transitional phase and the true nature of India, the true democratic nature of India, compassionate nature of India will triumph. I have no doubt in my mind. And by the way, we've gone through this phase before. So it's not that it's a new thing. The Congress party faced this exact same thing in the 30s and we decimated it. And we will do the same again. People are impatient, you know. People are like, very impatient. BJP has been in power for 10 years. Well, okay, we were in power for 10 years before that. Why did nobody say, you know, in UPA2, when we had been in power for eight years, why did nobody say, oh my God, the BJP is going to evaporate? After all, the same, you know, we were in power for 10 years. So there is a tendency for the media to sort of exaggerate these things. There are reasons for it also, but we are committed to the democratization of India. And we are committed, especially to the emancipation of the poor people of India, the lower caste, backward castes, these communities. I think I heard you say you described the media in India as somewhat captured by the powers that be. I mean, I think you could remove the word somewhat. So if your party comes to power, what steps would be taken to free up that press and make it less? I mean, you don't really need to do much. You need to just stop interfering and stop pressurizing. And if you look at the UPA period, we didn't interfere, we didn't pressurize, and it worked perfectly fine. So if the leadership of the country decides that a free press is valuable, then it will fall into place. Got a question for you on Bangladesh here. How do you view Bangladesh's situation as the country struggles for democracy, voting rights, freedom of expression and human rights?   Okay, let's see. It says, this is a question from the audience. In nine years of BJP rule, India has become, as a 3.5 trillion rupee or dollar economy, India is one of the most, and yet India is one of the most impoverished countries. So how do you see India addressing its many problems, given the challenges of democracy, given the challenges of the divisive rule of, what's the way forward in terms of specifically addressing poverty?  So that's just a natural consequence of that growth rate. The question is, how is the wealth of India distributed? Is India creating jobs? Are Indian people feeling that they can express themselves? Are they happy? Is there general tranquility in the country? Congress Party has a record for doing this.  I think a good model is to let the people of India get to work, let them do what they're best at doing, and not to sort of, you know, pressurize them and threaten them and do that. There's a historical record for this. I mean, after all, India did extremely well in the early 2000s. What do you see as the main drivers of this? There's a cost. You see, there's also something that people don't realize is that there's a massive economic cost to this disharmony, right? To this non-conversation. That filters out, right? So saying that Indian economy is doing well, that doesn't take in the full picture. What are the other costs that you're creating? Those are not being factored in, right? We had better economic growth than the BJP, created more jobs than the BJP, and had complete harmony in the country. What do you see as the biggest drivers of the economy in the short term, in the coming years? I think what the BJP's policies have done, particularly demonetization and what we consider to be a flawed GST, they have weakened the small and medium businesses in India. And we believe that the small and medium businesses are actually the backbone of economic activity in India. If you want to create jobs, if you want to have a 21st century economy, you have to empower these people and turn them from being small and medium businesses to large businesses. So in our mind, it's taking these businesses and scaling them up. And having hundreds if not thousands of these businesses become large businesses. So that's where we fundamentally differ with the BJP. They believe that you don't need these small and medium businesses, that you can build the Indian economy with three or four huge massive businesses. Unfortunately, having three or four massive businesses doesn't translate into jobs. It can't. So that's really at the heart of the difference between the two visions. And you can see it. So the growth during the UPA period is much better than the growth now. And there's massive levels of unemployment in India now. And it's a real problem because our people, they need to be put into productive activity.  Can India go it alone to build those small, medium and small businesses or do they need more open to outside investors? No, I think the United States, I think that's when I was talking about broad basing the relationship. I was talking about that, that the United States and India have synergies that if they come together can be very powerful. What we are facing is a particular vision of the world, Chinese vision of the world that offers productivity, prosperity, but under a non-democratic framework. That's not acceptable to us because we simply cannot thrive under a non-democratic structure. So we have to think about production and prosperity in a democratic framework. And I think that's where the bridge between India and the United States can play a very important role for us, for you and I think also for the planet. To show the rest of the world that production, manufacturing in a democratic environment is possible and can actually be competitive with the Chinese model. And also while keeping the environment in mind, is the environment a major concern of yours going into the next election? As I said, you can't ignore costs and pretend they don't exist. And when you're thinking about these things, you don't want to think about them in the one year, two year, five year time frame. As a country you'd like to think about them in a 20, 30 year time frame. And if you're looking at that span, then the environment is fundamental. You can't get away from it. Saying that, the world is in a transition. So we are moving from internal combustion engines to electric motors. There is an energy transition taking place. So we have to adapt ourselves to benefit from those transitions. And I think India is very well placed to do that. Would you consider a big increase in exports, one way of measure that? Or is that really about innovating the economy to take advantage of these new technologies? It's both. If India starts manufacturing, starts producing, it will start to export as well. I think there is an opportunity for India to successfully compete with the Chinese on manufacturing. We might not end up doing it the way they do it. So we might not end up having huge factories. We might end up having smaller factories with high technology embedded in them. So the system will probably look different. But the end result would be similar. We would compete with China and you would see made in China and you would see made in India. Can you do it without more Chinese investment? Is there enough money coming in from elsewhere? That's where the India-US relationship should be looking. I mean that to me is what the conversation should be about. How do we build this alternative production system, alternative manufacturing system? And I think there's a lot of interesting things there. Because of our size, because of data, because of our technological capabilities, your technological capabilities. So I think the strengthening of the bridge between the United States and India and the widening it, making it from a two-lane highway to a 10, 15, 20-lane highway is how I think about it. Does the US tendency to flirt with the debt ceiling and so on give you pause as far as partnering with America in the long term? There are always stumbling blocks, there are always relationships like that between the United States and India. They will move very fast and they'll slow down, they'll move very fast. But as long as the progression is in the right direction and you're focusing on the right things, I think you'll end up resolving the problems. A couple more questions from the audience here. If you believe the BJP pushes hard propaganda, how do you wish to tackle the government messaging heading into 2024?  And we came across this very simple idea, which was to walk from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. And it was shocking how effective that idea was. I was just frankly blown away because when we went directly to the people, no amount of force worked. I mean, the BJP was trying everything they could to not allow the Yatra to be successful. It didn't work. So it was very interesting. I think all this propaganda doesn't work if you go close to the people. If you're far from the people, it's very easy. But once you start going close to the people and you start having conversations, you start working on the streets, you start physically meeting people. It doesn't work. It's quite a revelation to me. And I think it sort of made me understand what Mahatma Gandhi was doing with the Champaran movement or the Dandi march. I think, as I was saying in Stanford yesterday, in the West and in India, there is a distance between the people and the political class. And I think that's where the propaganda comes into play. If you bridge that gap, it's very difficult. Can you get your message out with the media? We got the message out with the Yatra in an explosive way. I mean, fantastic. So the people in here are hearing your message. Loud and clear. Yes. And I mean, it's obvious to every single person in India that the message of the Yatra, India needs to stand united. India needs to work together. Resonated. Resonated with BJP people. Some days back, I was somewhere and I had one of the spokesmen of the BJP who just bumped into me and she said that this was a very powerful thing that you did. All right. Why should religious minorities see your party as an alternative to the BJP's politics? Because it's not just religious minorities. It's everybody because we give space to all ideas in India, all communities, all religions. And the design of our party and our original designer, Mahatma Gandhi, designed the party to be based on truth and non-violence, compassion, affection. So it's a completely different philosophical architecture than the BJP. It's a different vision of India. It views India as a conversation. It views India as multiple ideas. It's a bit like the melting pot idea in the United States where everybody comes together and you have a conversation. And then you negotiate. So everybody is comfortable in it. Several related questions. Here's one. India has been a country of particular concern in the International Religious Freedom Report for several years. And it talks about the policies against Muslims and so on. What would your party do in power to heal or to bring the Muslims and other religious minorities together into the coalition?  Our record speaks for itself. We don't even have to say what we're going to do. Just look at what we've done. We are the ones, not we, but the Congress party is the institution that united India in the first place. They fought the British, defeated the British and built the entire architecture for this conversation. So it's in our DNA we are committed to this. And as I said, the framework for this is present in India. It's not that it needs to be constructed. It needs to be nurtured and protected, which we know how to do. This is another question from the audience. So as the way you were disqualified from parliament and what is happening in Pakistan, do you see any similarities here and what does that say about politics in the region? I don't know. I mean, look, as you said, I asked a rhetorical question. I asked the question, why were you described it? I'm fighting a court case, so I have to be careful. But I asked a rhetorical question. And I'm the first person in India to be given the highest punishment for a deformation case. This is the first case. I'm the first person in Indian history since 1947. Nobody has been given the maximum sentence on deformation and that too on the first offense. So that should explain what's going on here. And my disqualification happens quite interestingly after I make a speech about Mr. Adani and parliament. So you can do the math. Let's see. But you know, my disqualification is not really, it's okay. It's not the most important thing. The most important thing is the thousands and thousands of other voices, civil society, government, bureaucracy, who are being frightened into submission. That's much more important to me than my disqualification. My disqualification in many ways is an advantage for me. How so? Because it opens up completely new spaces for me. You know, it allows me to completely redefine myself. And I think they've given me a gift, frankly. They don't think they realize it. But they have. Politics is not linear. You know, it's like, it can suddenly go off into another direction. It's asymmetric. So I think they've given me a gift. It's not apparent right now, but I think they have. So you've come from a political family. The Gandhi's have been compared to the Kennedy family here in the U.S., both in terms of highest heights and unfortunate assassinations. What keeps you going? What keeps you involved in politics despite what can be great risks? I defend an idea. I love the people of my country. In particular, the people who are struggling. I have a bias towards them. And I completely empathize with their struggle. It disturbs me when I see the pain in India. And I have no choice because that creates a response, emotional response in me that I can't fight. So it's just natural. And also I've grown up with a sort of narrative about my country. A Gandhian narrative of what the country is, what it should look like, what is important. So that's what drives me. I'm not concerned really about threats of violence and assassination and stuff.  I mean, that's what I learned from my grandmother and my father. So you don't back down because of something like that. Here's a question. Just in India's relationship with Russia has been controversial since the war in Ukraine began. How would Congress administration handle this relationship or the situation in Ukraine differently? I don't know if you like my answer, but I think similar to how the BJP would or did. We would be responding in a similar way to BJP. Because we have sort of a relationship with the Russians that can't be denied. It is there. So I think our policy would broadly be similar. From your perspective, has the relationship with Russia changed since the war in Ukraine began? I think in some ways it might have. I think it might have changed in some ways. But there is a old historic relationship with the Russians and we buy weapons from them. So there are also those type of reasons for this. But I don't think the Congress government would be dramatically different than what the BJP is doing right now in terms of Russia. Got time for a couple more questions. You've asked a lot. You've got through a lot. There's a lot of interest here in you, sir. So I'm going to butcher these names. Please forgive me. You have compared with Guru Nanak Udassis driving your speech in San Francisco while the SGPC has raised questions on your statement. What would you say? Do you know what this is referring to? I'm sorry. I promised you I'd ask. No, I don't know. What is Udassis? Ah, okay, okay. Sorry, thank you. I'll explain it. So I said that the tradition of a Yatra or a walk is a very deep tradition in India. And I said that many great people have used this instrument of a walk. Mahatma Gandhi has used it. Guru Nanak has used it. And as an instrument of conversation and as an instrument of understanding. So I think they're saying that I shouldn't compare the Bharat Jodo Yatra to walks that Guru Nanak and Mahatma Gandhi took. But I wasn't doing that. I clearly said that, look, I draw inspiration from these great leaders and what they did. And there's no question of comparing this walk to their walk. But I think they misunderstood it. I see. What is your message to the Indian people as to why they should support Congress in the next election? Is it about economic achievement? Is it about tolerance? I said in my Yatra, I'd say it in Hindi. Do you speak Hindi? I wish I did. So in a market of hatred, open a little shop of love and affection. So I believe that India needs to be in harmony. And I believe that India needs to be able to express itself to truly succeed. If you... I don't know of one case where somebody who's angry or somebody who's full of hatred has had an expansive imagination. And India needs an expansive imagination. India needs to dream big. And you can't dream big if the people who are leading you are angry, are violent, are engrossed with hatred. So I think I feel India has a great opportunity, huge opportunity, which can transform the lives of millions and millions of Indians. But in order to do that, it needs to imagine a new India in a big dynamic manner. And I think in order to do that, India needs to be in harmony. India needs to start talking to itself. India needs to respect itself. So that would be one element of it. Hatred doesn't work.  Hatred has never worked. Might work for six months, one year. And then it collapses on itself. Affection, love always work. They have. But we've been told by the great leaders. All right. Well, I want to thank you for joining us today at the club. And thank you for answering so many questions. Are you inviting the Prime Minister? Absolutely. We'll invite for his time. I look forward to hearing it. I also want to thank Bill McCarran, Cecily, Scott Martin and Poonam Sharma for their role in bringing this together. And perhaps my members of your family have received this in the past. But as a thank you, this is our press club mug. It's highly coveted. Perhaps it can go on the mantle. You know, I was actually looking for a coffee mug. Okay. Excellent. Well, thank you very much. Thank you.


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okay checking out your latest version timing corrections there right of all this here is also great so I think this is gonna work right and I think let's see as you continue on you got to make sure that you know as you keep on refining like you know this is a very harsh ending I'm just putting out the obvious but you know as you spline this you want to give this just enough see what kind of roll over and his strength to kind of fade out this is not going to be a just a hard stop it's gonna be like and slow in and go down this guy and in this guy to go here I'll be careful because he's starting to push this way right so an arrow here there he goes he's pushing this way but I will make sure there's still enough of a feeling of I'm going up with my head so that there's potentially you know a straight line as he brings that that thing up like that and then after that you reach this type of thing where his arms start to bend and he gets into this so good that's getting better there let's watch this again I think you can go see be careful you have the beginning of him lifting it up but it's already going up here so I will go to this point here like he gets to this first to this line you know that his body is having that C curve and again stretching out his arms is a fantastically horrible drawing but he gets to this and once he reaches the maximum of pull here and this starts to straighten right that arm that's when the thing comes up it's just a little bit too linear there but right it kind of pops up and watch out it's going through his body and all that stuff so you know same thing here you got to get away from the linear keys right that's your linear moment where this goes up here it was up here and then immediately goes down so you know your arc feels like this as opposed to boom right and then I think this goes down and their reaction to this is him going up with his body but to me it would be the opposite right so you got all that weight coming down boom and then he would be a moment of potentially let's go back here like you know he would have maybe his body will be all the way down here and he's bent over with this thing down here and he might you know have a moment of whoa what the hell's going on and then after that he can push up into here right you want to have a moment of the weight of this hammer it's gonna come down and he's not quite prepared for this so the momentum of the weight of all this it's gonna continue just a little bit and then his legs gonna push against it and then he goes up and right now it's going up and hitting him on the shoulder and then it's he's immediately going up especially this here is your big linear key there so the weight of all this that you established here is kind of gone right there that's fine and this I think you go I think this comes a bit early this reversal so I like that he's going this way kind of in you know in a show you know I'm gonna go this way but then I will wait until maybe like this step to be that far back like he's pushing with his body always curve this way pushing pushing pushing and then it's at this point and I wouldn't actually stop here so if you see curve see curve get into reversed for this so you kind of mixing a couple things and this is gonna pop but the idea is all right you go from from this skip all this here and you will get to like yeah again this is gonna totally pop but the idea right you're you're staying in this and as he goes forward you're still staying in this and you're doing this move backwards right where his his spine goes from this to a reverse that happens as you get into into this right see curve at this point still here and slowly going back into into this so you have this nice I'm pushing forward I'm pushing forward because I'm going this way and then that big C reversal there and then you gotta make sure that right now he's pushing this thing up right and this is just physically not quite working because he's it feels like he is using that arm right to push this thing up here and at the same time the arms slides down but the thing is if that's your momentum I'm pushing this up here it's kind of come back down here so for him to go this way feels weird so to me it was like if you go with this right and you have that reversal that's my that seal and there and you break that to get into this pose after totally sneeze hold on so by imagine he is hunched over like that with the hammer like this right and has his arms like that and he's then pushing like he's using his reversal and it gives you that kind of an of an arc that way you can start pushing you imagine he's kind of halfway going there right and starting to however his arms are push that thing up right that makes no sense I'm still getting used to my drawing tool there as I push control it draws the moment I push control it draws if I don't like if I go up right it so does it I gotta let go of control anyway totally not relevant so to me it feels like if he is leaning forward with his with his body he's got the hammer up here and he does that kind of push off and then back that gives us just enough of an arc to motivate this because the trajectory of the hammer was that and boom and he was back right so again to go secret secret reverse and then boom and I will probably end this with when this lands he might actually be and it might be different than what I said before but not watching it now I will probably do something where he's like this where that thing is leading everything is leading and driving and it's going down so fast that it's pulling him down and it will be this comes this hits first and then this hits second and then right after that and then that at the end right so this would be one and then this would be two and this would be three and then this will be four pump up I'm in succession and it's all driven by the hammer at the end right so it's almost he's trying trying trying you didn't almost have it land or be like this right or his body is like this and he's trying to get in that makes no sense but you know oh there it is again so that's kind of the idea I think for the ends so it's not all landing at the same time but it's really he's trying the best he's best he can imagine you're putting your whole force into this right you're doing whatever you can and you got arms back and everything and this is just keeps going down right and follow that arc of that character and then that hammer just goes down and imagine just this is the thing that pulls you down right so see that drop that it does here you'd wait you'd wait until that thing is here so it's really pulling him completely down so you can go crazy with you know with that hammer he might still try like this and it might start with one for like that but you know that's kind of the idea so that is lands first and then it pulls everything this way right okay I hope this was not completely confusing but it's coming along I think you you're making great progress just gotta you know break down separate areas and and work on splining things and make sure your arcs work and think about the physics and the momentum if you bring something that heavy up here how long is the hang time then as it comes down how quickly can the drop be cushioned and stopped by the body and so on and so on okay thank you all right there's an email you can sign up you can start whenever you want you can submit whatever you want you get 16 submissions either way a like and subscribe would be awesome all right thank you


Welcome back to SuperCloud 2, an open industry collaboration between technologists, consultants, analysts, and of course practitioners to help shape the future of cloud. At this event, one of the key areas we're exploring is the intersection of cloud data and now building value on top of hyperscale clouds and across clouds is evolving, a concept of course we call SuperCloud. And we're pleased to welcome our friends from Enterprise Technology Research, Eric Bradley and Darren Brabham. Guys, thanks for joining us. Great to see you, we love to bring the data into these conversations. Thank you for having us, Dave, we appreciate it. Yeah, thanks. You bet, and so let me do the setup on what is SuperCloud. It's a concept that we floated before re-invent 2021, based on the idea that cloud infrastructure is becoming ubiquitous, incredibly powerful, but there's a lack of standards within the, you know, across the big three clouds that creates friction. So we defined over the period of time, you know, better part of a year, a set of essential elements, deployment models for so-called SuperCloud, which create this common experience for specific cloud services that, of course, again, span multiple clouds and even on premise dates. So Eric, with that as background, I wonder if you could add your general thoughts on the term SuperCloud, maybe play proxy for the CIO community because you do these round tables, you talk to these guys all the time, you gather a lot of amazing information from senior ITDMs that complement your survey. So what are your thoughts on the term and the concept? Yeah, sure, I'll even go back to last year when you and I did our predictions panel, right?  But, you know, from my own perspective and also speaking to the ITDMs that we interview on a regular basis, this is just a natural evolution. It's something that's inevitable in enterprise tech, right? The internet was not built for what it has become. It was never intended to be the underlying infrastructure of our daily lives and work. The cloud also was not built to be what it's become. But what we're at now is we have to figure out what the cloud is and what it needs to be to be scalable, resilient, secure, and have the governance wrapped around it. And to me, that's what SuperCloud is. It's a way to define operatively what the next generation, the continued iteration and evolution of the cloud and what it needs to be. And that's what the SuperCloud means to me. And what depends if you want to call it meta cloud, super cloud, it doesn't matter. The point is that we're trying to define the next layer, the next future of work, which is inevitable in enterprise tech. Now, from the ITDM perspective, I have two interesting callouts. One is from basically a senior developer IT architecture and DevSecOps who says he uses the term all the time. And the reason he uses the term is that because multi-cloud has a stigma attached to it when he's talking to his business users. The stigma is because it's complex and it's expensive. So he switched to SuperCloud to better explain to his business executives and his CFO and his CIO what he's trying to do. And we can get into more later about what it means to him. But the inverse of that of course is a good CISO friend of mine for a very large enterprise says the concern with super cloud is the reduction of complexity. And I'll explain. He believes anything that takes the requirement of specific expertise out of the equation even a little bit as a CISO worries him. So as you said, they can always two coins, two sides of the coin, but I do believe super cloud is a relevant term and it is necessary because the cloud is continuing to be defined. You know, that's really interesting too. Because Darren, we use snowflake a lot as an example of the early super cloud. And you think from a security standpoint, we've always pushed Amazon. Are you ever going to kind of abstract the complexity away from all these primitives? And their position has always been, look, if we produce these primitives and offer these primitives, we can move as the market moves. When you abstract, then it becomes harder to peel the layers. But Darren, from a data standpoint, like I say, we use snowflake a lot. I think of like Tim Berners-Lee when web 2.0 came out, he said, well, this is what the internet was always supposed to be. So in a way, you know, super cloud is maybe what multi-cloud was supposed to be. But I mean, you think about data sharing, Darren, across clouds, it's always been a challenge. You know, snowflake always, you know, obviously trying to solve that problem as are others. But what are your thoughts on the concept? Yeah, I think the concept fits, right? It is reflective of, it's a paradigm shift, right? It things as a pendulum have swung back and forth between needing to piece together a bunch of different tools that have specific unique use cases and they're best in breed and what they do. And then focusing on the duct tape that holds them all together and all the engineering complexity and skill. It's shifted from that into the pendulum all the way back to let's streamline this, let's simplify it. Maybe we have budget crunches and we need to consolidate tools or eliminate tools. And so then you kind of see this back and forth over time. And with data and analytics, for instance, a lot of organizations were trying to bring the data closer to the business. That's where we saw self-service analytics coming in. And tools like Snowflake, they did was they helped point to different databases. They helped to unify data and organize it in a single place that was in a sense neutral away from a single cloud vendor or a single database and allowed the business to kind of be more flexible in how it brought stuff together and provided it out to the business units. So Snowflake was an example of one of those times where we pulled back from the granular multiple points of the spear back to a simple way to do things. And I think Snowflake has continued to kind of keep that mantle to a degree and then we see other tools trying to do that. But that's all it is. It's a paradigm shift back to this kind of meta abstraction layer that kind of simplifies what is the reality that you need a complex multi-use case multi-region way of doing business. And it sort of reflects the reality of that. And to me, it's a spectrum as part of SuperCloud 2 we're talking to a number of practitioners. Iona's Pharmaceuticals, US West, we got Walmart and it's a spectrum. In some cases, the practitioners saying, the way I solve multi-cloud complexity is monocloud. I just do one cloud. Others like Walmart are saying, hey, we actually are building an abstraction layer ourselves to take advantage of it. So my general question to both of you is, is this a concept that is the lack of standards across clouds, really a problem? Or is SuperCloud a solution looking for a problem? Or do you hear from practitioners that, no, this is really an issue. We have to bring together a set of standards to sort of unify our cloud estates. Allow me to answer that at a higher level. And then we're going to hand it over to Dr. Brabham because he is a little bit more detailed on the real-time streaming analytics use cases, which I think is where we're going to get to. But to answer that question, it really depends on the size and the complexity and the business of your business. At the very large enterprise, Dave, yes, 100%. This needs to happen. There is complexity. There is not only complexity in the compute and actually deploying the applications, but the governance and the security around them. But for lower end or business use cases and for smaller businesses, it's a little less necessary. You certainly don't need to have all of these. Some of the things that come into mind from the interviews that Darren and I have done are financial services, if you're doing real-time trading. Anything that has real-time data metrics involved in your transactions is going to be necessary. And another use case that we hear about is in online travel agencies. So I think it is very relevant. The complexity does need to be solved. And I'll allow Darren to explain a little bit more about how that's used from an analytics perspective. Yeah, go for it. Exactly. I mean, I think any modern multinational company that's going to have a footprint in the US and Europe in China or works in different areas like manufacturing where you're probably going to have on-prem instances that will stay on-prem forever for various performance reasons. You have these complicated governance and security and regulatory issues. So inherently, I think large multinational companies or company and or companies that are in certain areas like finance or in online e-commerce or things that need real-time data, they inherently are going to have a very complex environment that's going to need to be managed in some kind of cleaner way. They're looking for one door to open, one pane of glass to look at, one thing to do to manage these multi points. And streaming is a good example of that. I mean, not every organization has a real-time streaming use case and may not ever. But a lot of organizations do. A lot of industries do. And so there's this need to use, they want to use open source tools. They want to use Apache Kafka, for instance. They want to use different mega cloud vendors offerings like Google PubSub or Amazon Kinesis, Firehose. They have all these different pieces they want to use for different use cases at different stages of maturity or proof of concept, you name it. They're going to have to have this complexity. And I think that's why we're seeing this need to have sort of the super cloud concept to juggle all this, to wrangle all of it. Because the reality is it's complex and you have to simplify it somehow. Great, thanks you guys. All right, let's bring up the graphic and take a look at anybody who follows the breaking analysis, which is co-branded with ETR. Cube Insights powered by ETR knows we like to bring data to the table. ETR does amazing survey work. Every quarter, 1200 plus 1500 practitioners that answer a number of questions. The vertical axis here is NetScore, which is ETR's proprietary methodology, which is a measure of spending momentum, spending velocity, and the horizontal axis shows here the overlap, but it's the presence, pervasiveness in the data set, the ends. That table insert on the bottom right shows you how the dots are plotted, the NetScore and then the ends in the survey. And what we've done is we've plotted a bunch of the so-called super cloud suspects. Let's start in the upper right, the cloud platforms. Without these hyperscale clouds, you can't have a super cloud. And as always, Azure and AWS up and to the right, it's amazing, we're talking about 80 plus billion dollar company in AWS. Azure's business is in the, if you just look at the IaaS, is in the 50 billion range with, I mean, it's just amazing to me the NetScore's here. Anything above 40%, we consider highly elevated and you got Azure and you got Snowflake, Databricks, HashiCorp, we'll get to them. And you got AWS right up there at that size. It's quite amazing with really big ends as well, 700 plus ends in the survey. So kind of half the survey actually has these platforms. So my question to you guys is, what are you seeing in terms of cloud adoption within the big three cloud players? I wonder if you could comment, maybe Eric, you could start. Yeah, sure. Now we're talking data. Now I'm happy. So yeah, we'll get into some of it. Right now the January 2023 thesis is approaching 1500 survey respondents. One caveat, it's not closed yet. It will close on Friday, but with an end that big, we are over statistically significant. We also recently did a cloud survey and there's a couple of key points on that I want to get into before we get into individual vendors. What we're seeing here is that annual spend on cloud infrastructure is expected to grow at almost a 70% CAGR over the next three years. The percentage of those workloads for cloud infrastructure are expected to grow over 70% as three years as well. And as you mentioned, Azure and AWS are still dominant. However, we're seeing some share shift spreading around a little bit. Now to get into the individual vendors you mentioned about, yes, Azure is still number one. AWS is number two. What we're seeing, which is incredibly interesting, Cloudflare is number three. It's actually beating GCP. That's the first time we've seen it. What I do want to state is this is on net score only, which is our measure of spending intentions. When you talk about actual pervasion in the enterprise it's not even close. But from a spending velocity intention point of view, Cloudflare is now number three above GCP and even Salesforce is creeping up to be at GCP's level. So what we're seeing here is a continued domination by Azure and AWS. But some of these other players that maybe might fit into your moniker. And I definitely want to talk about Cloudflare more in a bit but I'm going to stop there. But what we're seeing is some of these other players that fit into your super cloud moniker are starting to creep up Dave. Yeah, I just want to clarify. So as you also know, we track IaaS and pass revenue and we try to extract. So AWS reports and its quarterly earnings, it's, you know, they're just IaaS and pass. They don't have a SaaS play in a little bit maybe. Whereas Microsoft and Google include their applications. And so we extract those out. And if you do that, AWS is bigger. But in the surveys, customers, they see cloud, they sass to them as cloud. So that's one of the reasons why you see, you know, Microsoft as larger in pervasion. If you bring up that survey again, Alex, the survey results, you see them further to the right and they have higher spending momentum, which is consistent with what you see in the earnings calls. Now, interesting about Cloudflare, because CEO of Cloudflare, actually Cloudflare itself uses the term super cloud, basically saying, hey, we're building a new type of internet. So what else, what are your thoughts? Do you have additional information on Cloudflare, Eric, that you want to share?  I mean, this is a really interesting company that is pretty forward thinking and vocal about how it's disrupting the industry. Sure, we've been tracking for a long time and even from the disruption of just a traditional CDN where they took down Akamai and what they're doing. But for me, the definition of a true super cloud provider can't just be one instance, you have to have multiple. So it's not just the cloud, it's networking aspect on top of it. It's also security. And to me, Cloudflare is the only one that has all of it, that they actually have the ability to offer all of those things. Whereas you look at some of the other names, they're still piggybacking on the infrastructure or platform as a service of the hyperscalers. Cloudflare does not need to. They actually have the cloud, the networking and the security all themselves. So to me, that lends credibility to their own internal usage of that moniker super cloud. And also again, just what we're seeing right here that their net score is now creeping above a GCP really does state it. And then just one real last thing, one of the other things we do in our surveys is we track adoption and replacement reasoning. And when you look at Cloudflare's adoption rate, which is extremely high, it's based on technical capabilities, the breadth of their feature set. It's also based on what we call the ability to avoid stack alignment. So those are again, really supporting reasons that makes Cloudflare a top candidate for your moniker of super cloud. And they've also announced an object store and a database. So it takes a while as you well know to get database adoption going. But they're ambitious and going forward. All right, let's bring the chart back up. And I want to focus Darren in on the ecosystem now. And really we've identified Snowflake and Databricks. It's always fun to talk about those guys. And there are a number of other data platforms out there, but we use those two as really proxies for leaders. We got a bunch of the backup guys, the data protection folks, Rubrik, Cohesity and Veeam, they're sort of in a cluster. Although Rubrik, you know, ahead of those guys in terms of spending momentum. And then VMware, Tanzu and Red Hat is sort of the cross-cloud platform. But I want to focus Darren on the data piece of it. We're seeing a lot of activity around data sharing, governed data sharing. Databricks is using Delta sharing as their sort of place. Snowflakes is sort of this walled garden like the App Store. What are your thoughts on, you know, in the context of super cloud, cross-cloud capabilities for the data platforms? Yeah, good question. You know, I think Databricks is an interesting player because they sort of have made some interesting moves with their data lake house technology. So they're trying to kind of complicate, they're trying to take away the complications of, you know, the downsides of data warehousing and data lakes and try to find that middle ground where you have the managed, the benefits of a managed govern, you know, data warehouse environment, but you have sort of a lower cost, you know, capability of a data lake. And so, you know, Databricks has become really attractive, especially by data scientists, right? We've been tracking them in the AI machine learning sector for quite some time here at ETR.  So it's kind of the best of both worlds. So in some ways, I think you've seen sort of a data science driver for the adoption of Databricks that has now become a little bit more mainstream across the business. Snowflake, maybe the other direction, you know, maybe it's a data warehouse, a cloud data warehouse that, you know, is starting to expand its capabilities and add on new things like Streamlit is a good example in the analytics space with apps. So you see these tools started starting to branch and creep out a bit, but they offer that sort of neutrality, right? We heard one IT decision maker we recently interviewed that referred to Snowflake and Databricks as the quote unquote, Switzerland of what they do. And so there's this desirability from an organization to find these tools that can solve the complex multi-headed use case of data and analytics which every business unit needs in different ways and figure out a way to do that in an elegant way that's governed and centrally managed that federated kind of best of both worlds that you get by bringing the data close to the business while having a central governed instance. So these tools are incredibly powerful and I think there's only gonna be room for growth for those two especially. I think they're gonna expand and do different things and maybe join forces with others. And a lot of the power of what they do well is trying to find these connections and find these partnerships with other vendors and try to be seen as the nice add-on to your existing environment that plays nicely with everyone. So I think that's where those tools are going, but they certainly fit this sort of label of trying to be that super cloud neutral layer that unites everything. Yeah, and if you bring the graphic back up, please. There's obviously big data plays in each of the cloud platforms. Microsoft, big database player, AWS is 11, 12, 15 data stores and of course, BigQuery and other data platforms within Google. But I'm not sure these guys, the big cloud guys are going to go hard after so-called super cloud, cross-cloud services. Although we see Oracle getting in bed with Microsoft and Azure with a database service that is cross-cloud, certainly Google with Anthos and you never say never with AWS. I guess what I would say guys, and I'll leave you with this, is that just like all players today are cloud players, I feel like anybody in the business or most companies are going to be so-called super cloud players, in other words, they're going to have a cross-cloud strategy. They're going to try to build connections. If they're coming from on-prem, like a Dell or an HPE, or Pure or many of these other companies that Cohesity is another one, they're going to try to connect to their on-prem estates, of course, and create a consistent experience. It's natural that they're going to have some consistency across clouds. The big question is, what's that spectrum look like? I think in the one hand, you're going to have some, you know, maybe some rudimentary instances of super cloud or maybe they just run on the individual clouds versus where Snowflake and others, and even beyond that are trying to go with a single global instance, basically building out what I would think of as their own cloud, and importantly, their own ecosystem. I'll give you guys the last thought. Maybe you could each give us closing thoughts. Maybe, Darren, you could start, and Eric, you could bring us home. Just this entire topic, the future of cloud and data. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, two points to make on that is this question of these, I guess what we'll call legacy on-prem players, these mega vendors that have been around a long time have big on-prem footprints, and a lot of people have them for that reason. I think it's foolish to assume that a company, especially a large, mature multinational company that's been around a long time, it's foolish to think that they can just uproot and leave on-premises entirely full scale. There will always, almost always be an on-prem footprint from any company that was not natively born in the cloud after 2010, right? I just don't think that's reasonable anytime soon. I think there are some industries that need on-prem, things like, you know, industrial manufacturing and so on. So I don't think on-prem is going away, and I think vendors that are going to, you know, go very cloud forward, very big on the cloud, if they neglect having at least decent connectors to on-prem legacy vendors, they're going to miss out. So I think that's something that these players need to keep in mind is that they continue to reach back to some of these players that have big footprints on-prem and make sure that those integrations are seamless and work well, or else their customers will always have a multi-cloud or hybrid experience. And then I think a second point here about the future is, you know, we talk about the three big, you know, cloud providers, the Google, Microsoft, AWS as sort of the opposite of or different from this new super cloud paradigm that's emerging. But I want to kind of point out that they will always try to make a play to become that. And I think, you know, we'll certainly see someone like Microsoft trying to expand their licensing and expand how they play in order to become that super cloud provider for folks. So also I don't want to downplay them. I think you're going to see those three big players continue to move and take over what players like cloud vendor or student cloud flare are doing and try to, you know, cut them off before they get too big. So keep an eye on them as well. Great points. I mean, I think you're right. First point, if you're Dell, HPE, Cisco, IBM, your strategy should be to make your on-prem estate as cloud-like as possible and, you know, make those differences as minimal as possible. And, you know, if you're a customer, then the business case is going to be low for you to move off of that. And I think you're right. I think the cloud guys, if this is a real problem, the cloud guys are going to play in there and they're going to make some money at it. Eric, bring us home, please. Yeah, I'm going to revert back to our data and this on the macro side. So to kind of support this concept of a super cloud right now, you know, Dave, you and I know we back overall spending. And what we're seeing right now is total year spend is expected to only be 4.6%. We ended 2022 at 5%, even though it began at almost eight and a half. So this is clearly declining. And in that environment, we're seeing the top two strategies to reduce spend are actually vendor consolidation with 36% of our respondents saying they're actively seeking a way to reduce their number of vendors and consolidate into one. That's obviously supporting a super cloud type of play. Number two is reducing excess cloud resources. So when I look at both of those combined with a drop in overall spending reduction, I think you're on the right thread here, Dave. You know, the overall macro view that we're seeing and the data supports this happening. And if I can real quick, a couple of names we did not touch on that I do think deserve to be in this conversation. One is HashiCorp. HashiCorp is the number one player in our infrastructure sector with a 56% net score. It does multiple things within infrastructure and it is completely agnostic to your environment. And if we're also speaking about something that's just a singular feature, we would look at Rubrik for data backup storage recovery. They're not going to offer you your full cloud or your networking, of course, but if you're looking for your backup recovery and storage, Rubrik also number one in that sector with a 53% net score, two other names that deserve to be in this conversation as we watch it move and evolve. Great, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, we had both of those guys in the chart and I failed to focus in on HashiCorp and clearly a super cloud enabler. All right, guys, we got to go. Thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate it. Keep this conversation going.  Thanks. Yeah, thanks for having us. All right, keep it right there for more content from SuperCloud too. This is Dave Vellante for John Furrier and the entire CUBE team. We'll be right back.


morning boy is rising grind it's time to get that bread what do you mean it's 10 a.m. in Scott uploaded a freaking teaser this has got to be the earliest he's ever posted a teaser literally it's 10 23 a.m. and there's a teaser on scotgames.com so this is the teaser currently on scotgames.com and as you can see it is none other than Vanessa herself she is wearing her rabbit costume with the blue bow tie she has lots of TV or computer monitors in the background it honestly really reminds me of the fnaf help wanted trailer where freddy had all of the TV screens and then he turned around I don't know if that is supposed to be referencing that or if this is actually the room where that took place because you know security breach is a sequel to help wanted so maybe that location wasn't just made up for the trailer for help wanted and this is the room where Vanny will stay okay so the first thing that obviously caught my attention was the mask this is very different from what we saw in help wanted I think the main thing that is different is the coloring right when the Funko Vanny action figure came out everyone was absolutely livid that the the right side of her face or I guess it's the left side for her was not colored brown so I guess the the mask and help wanted is a different thing than this the suit that Vanny is wearing so I think what she did was she made this mask for Glitchwrap and it was like you know do you like it she even says I made it myself so maybe Glitchwrap was like alright well you you seem pretty worthy have this entire costume now because it is tradition in FNAF to wear a rabbit costume when doing the stabbing speaking of stabbing Jesus Christ look at that knife that is like that's like the size of her forearm that is insane yeah there's lots of stitching on the costume so it I'm guessing it was made by either Glitchwrap or Vanny I'm guessing it was probably Vanny because I don't think Glitchwrap can make a costume when he's a plushie she has the whiskers going on she has the the buck teeth she has her hand gesturing out I'm not sure what gesture that's supposed to be maybe it's like you know come join me it does say obey so maybe she wants us to obey or she's supposed to obey I'm guessing that Vanny is the one who's supposed to be obeying and because if we think back to the security goal teaser it said protect so if we go by that logic security goal is supposed to protect and Vanny is supposed to obey saving the teaser it just saves us obey.jpeg so nothing too exciting right there now I think the timing of this teaser is very interesting because as we all know the anniversary for FNAF is tomorrow so what can we get tomorrow it's hard to say releasing a teaser one day before trailer isn't you know it's not impossible but it's just a little strange you know it's also hard to determine if this teaser was put out because of the leaked poster we got yesterday and for there being no trailer in security breach in the PlayStation State of Play maybe this was Scott's way of saying you know you guys you guys were pretty mad and upset that there was no trailer so here's the teaser going back to the the anniversary trailer for a quick second again it's very hard to say whether or not we will get one tomorrow now that they've released a teaser one day before it again I'm not saying it's impossible I'm just saying it's a little bit odd I of course do still really hope we get that trailer tomorrow but just the fact that they released a trailer one day before the anniversary is a bit suspicious to me but I do I do still have high hopes yeah but looking at the whole costume you can clearly tell it's so much different from the mask and help wanted I mentioned it earlier but the coloring the ears are slightly different I think the mask and help wanted didn't have whiskers but then again I might be wrong I have a picture of it up right now and no it did not have whiskers also the eyes were hollowed out they were still red there's no hair at the top it looks like the eyelashes have changed it looks like the snout and nose have changed slightly there's no tongue again the coloring is different so yeah it's definitely not the same thing of course then you have the addition of the blue ribbon on her chest I will say it is very interesting the way they are portraying Vanny in these in these teasers in these leaks because it really makes it seem like still is really pushing for Vanny to be the villain and now there's no doubt in my mind that she will be the villain it's just very strange because they're making it so obvious and they're like really hammering it into your head like she is the villain you know she is supposed to be evil with the red eyes the knife and like I get it it's just in help wanted she always gave off that vibe that she was again a reluctant follower maybe this is just me but I just find the way they're revealing her evilness to be a bit strange because again I feel like in help wanted she had completely different vibes but you know you could tell she was still a little bit evil I just feel like they're really hammering that on now like yes she's the villain yes she's very evil I don't know tell me what you guys think do you feel that way it might just be me being completely honest it doesn't look like anything will appear when we brighten up the image but I will do so because it's kind of tradition yeah brightening up the teaser of course does nothing with these latest security breach teasers unfortunately but that's probably because these aren't your traditional teasers I would be shocked if you couldn't tell but these as far as I'm aware are actually drawn by someone at Steelwall Studios who was an artist so yeah that is why all of these security breach teasers don't usually have any secrets within them they do it like if anything all right if if anything they do have something in their notepad when you open it up as far as I'm aware this hasn't no one's done that for this teaser just yet but I highly doubt there will be anything in there if I'm being 100% honest because if I remember correctly and no one brought up anything about that with the security girl teaser so yeah just saying the source code does not reveal anything new it still says stay the course I will focus on my voice I will don't let anyone leave you astray I won't have you selected one I have and honestly guys that's about it for this teaser it's just a better look at Vanny which I mean we did kind of get yesterday with the poster but I feel like this is so much better I definitely do feel like Scott released this teaser because everyone was upset that there was no trailer in the state of play and everyone was upset because there was yet another leak yesterday which Scott did reply to and I'll read that out right now so I did pin it on the comments that video but just in case you missed it this is what Scott said he says see this is how to properly do a leak using the finished product so it seems like that poster not only was officially a leak trends international was not supposed to reveal that poster just yet but it is also the finished poster and that is what all the characters officially look like so that is very exciting to close out this video I want to do something that I always do at the end of security breach videos and talk about release dates now a lot of people are saying that the game is getting really close to releasing and I kind of feel the same way just in a slightly different way I do I am 80% sure we will get a trailer tomorrow I am 80% sure that doesn't sound that high but it is you know technologically pretty high if you think about it 80% that's pretty good of course there is that other 20% of me that's like maybe we won't but I definitely feel like we will I again 80% I feel like we will the other 20% is just like another list of current projects you know like what he did I want to say in 2019 or 2018 book news teaser or just basic information on Scott's independent game that he's working on in AAA news movie news anything all that stuff is the other 20% so again that's pretty good odds 80% with the trailer and 20% for literally anything else when the trailer comes out it will have a release date at the very end when that release date is I don't know but I definitely would not be surprised if it is a September like late September going into October maybe even November at the latest yeah I definitely do feel like it will be that early to mid quarter for but yeah basically that is it for the teaser I'm gonna refresh one last time let's see if he took it down he did not it's still that great but yeah that's the teaser tell me in the comments down below how do you feel about this teaser all you excited for the anniversary tomorrow and that's it for me today so thank you all so much for watching this video and I'll see you all on the flip side goodbye


Hello everybody! E here. Welcome back to another episode of 31 Days of Halloween. Today we are talking about a movie that I watched on Shudder called Speak No Evil. I had to compose myself after watching this movie before I came out here to the office to do this review for you. It has been a long, long time since a movie has gotten under my skin the way this one did. I can't say that I enjoyed a single minute of it. It was very tense, very awkward, very uncomfortable for about an hour and 20 some odd minutes. From the get-go, I was uncomfortable. The way it was shot, the way it was acted, the way the writing, directing, everything was impeccable in this movie. All the way to the end. That final scene at the end, that final shot bothered me. I think the last movie to bother me this badly, there's two of them, and that's Martyrs and Inside. Those two movies really affected me.  That's not the kind of disturbing I'm talking about. This is very subtle and it's very slow. It's a very slow burn, very, very slow. I don't think too much happened for like the first hour of the movie. But when things do start finally happening, man, there's a scene in here. So trigger warning and spoiler alert for this next section because it has to do with the harming of a child. So anyways, spoiler and trigger warning three, two, one.  That I mean, I still think I feel like I watched something I shouldn't have been watching. But it wasn't to the point of gratuity, like something like a Serbian film. This one, like I said, it was very subtle up until that point. But as soon as that happens, the movie became almost unwatchable for me. Because I've written about kids getting hurt, kids in bad situations, all different kinds of stuff regarding kids. But I've never been this affected by the harming of a child. The special effects were perfect. It looked real. It felt real. It just truly, truly messed me up. But that's all I really have to say about it. If you're looking for something to absolutely ruin your mood, if you're in a good mood and you want to feel bad, definitely check out Speak No Evil on Shutter. But if you have watched it, let me know what you thought, think, thought, thunk. Anyways, let me know what you thought about it down there in the doobly-doo. But until next time, I have been E, you have been U. This has been another episode of 31 Days of Halloween. I'll talk to you guys later. Bye-bye.