Aloha, I'm Carol Mon Lee and welcome to our new Think Tech Hawaii series, Education Matters, where we will explore education-related topics that touch everyone, not just formal programs in K through 12 and higher education, but also broader issues and information that affect our community. In the next few weeks, we'll have guests covering the HEE Coalition, the Huey for Excellence in Education, the Huey Hero Academy for Philosophy and Ethics in Education, and Phi Alpha Theta, the National Honorary History Society. And today, I'm happy to welcome my very first guest, Levi O'Connor, Director of Programs and Christina Bay, Director of Continuing Education and Communication for the Hawaii State Bar Association. Welcome, Levi. Welcome, Tina. Hello. So glad to have you here. So I wanted to talk about lawyer education because as we all know, living in a civil society like we do, we all have interaction with lawyers either on a direct basis because of some need, whether it's an accident or a family estate planning issues or a criminal case or indirectly in the day-to-day life of taking care of or following rules, regulations and laws. So tell us what the HSBA does in terms of making sure that our state, our community of attorneys, stays up to date in all the changes and challenges that come up to the law and through changes in the law and court cases. So, Levi? So Carol, in 2009, the Huey State Supreme Court passed the Rule 22, which implemented our mandatory continuing legal education program for our lawyers that are licensed here in Hawaii. That rule mandated that we have to keep up with changes to our professionalism and our ethics rules, and then in 2015, they amended that rule to require us to learn substantive areas of law to apply towards our mandatory continuing legal education. So before 2009, lawyers were not required to keep up with any changes? That's correct. We had aspirational goals that were set forth by the Supreme Court, and then in 2009, they passed the rule to be applicable in 2010, mandating that we keep up with changes to the law for professionalism and ethics. Okay, and the types of courses you set, 2015, was changed to a certain, to include substantive? Yes, that's correct. Before that, it was voluntary legal education. I see. Okay. And Tina, you are the director of the CLE, which is continuing legal education, right? So what does that mean? So the HSBA tries to put on program for the attorneys to complete the requirements with, so we offer all kinds of courses to help them stay up to date with what's going on in the law, different topic areas, and to give ethics credits as well, because ethics is a very important part of being an attorney, being ethical, following the rules of professional conduct, and to be on par with those kind of things. So we offer classes to satisfy those goals. We have several coming up. One coming up this month is a CLE about immigrants. I forgot the title. Okay. Well, we have it right here. Know your rights. Know your rights regarding immigrants. It's a free CLE that's going to be offered to the members of the umpte bar to assist with their clients who might need some guidance in that area. We also have another CLE coming up on April 18th, called Attorney's Speech, What Lawyers Can and Cannot Say. That program is designed to help attorneys to watch their ethical rules and guidelines as they speak about their case and client to the public or other people that they might interact with in their day-to-day life. Okay. Well, let me ask you about these two. First, the immigrant one. You said it's free, and is that a growing area of the law? Are there a lot of changes in the law that require our attorneys to be informed about these changes? Well, with the new administration, there's a lot of change happening, and it's very important to stay abreast of what's happening in the law. It's hard to predict what's going to happen, but we do want to keep attorneys abreast of what may happen and how to approach those things when they do occur. We also had a CLE last couple of weeks ago on employment law, as that area is also bound for lots of changes just with the new administration. So we do our best to try to present courses that are timely and relevant to attorneys to keep them aware of what's going on. Right. So the immigrant program then is not just state law, of course, it's federal law. And so how, of course, the developing laws on the ban, for instance, the immigration ban that the president is trying to impose, will that be included in the course? So this program is being put on primarily by the Diversity, Equality, and the Law Committee of the HSBA, which is starting to deal because it is a long name. And their focus is to help create or provide diversity and equality in the law to people to provide assistance to those in need most. And so this program is free because we want to have attorneys to learn more about what they can do to assist these people who need help. And we are co-sponsored with this, but the primary sponsor is the Deal Committee and... Deal. And what does it stand for? Equality and equality in the law as a committee of the HSBA, which seeks to promote those issues in the public. I see. Okay. So those at CLE, we'll cover some more of these programs in just a minute, but Levi, so tell me more about your programs, how are yours related to education? So in my department, we focus on the outside providers certifying their courses for continuing legal education for our members. So the State Bar Association, we're one of the providers that can give these educational classes to our members for their annual CLE credits, but we also certify other organizations to provide continuing legal education credits for our members. For example, a law firm may want to sponsor their own in-house programs because they'll know what their attorneys need best. They'll submit an application to our organization to certify their program for continuing legal education credit for their members. The public defenders and the prosecuting office, they always do in-house programs. They certify it through our office to make sure that it complies with the Supreme Court rules and then they can provide their own instruction. And I know the law school does too, right? The law school as well. We partner with them for whenever they bring in guest speakers. They'll open it up sometimes to our members and we'll certify their courses for continuing legal education credit. We try to partner with as many people as we can to get those education credits out there so that our members are well-educated on changes in the law. So about how many courses a year or a month do you provide to the... How many lawyers out there in the state of Hawaii? There's about 8,000 attorneys, about 5,000 are active, I believe. And those 5,000 need to have continuing legal education courses. So how many a month do you provide or how do you measure? The HSP, we try to provide at least one program a month and we also have all of our live programs available to view on demand online for our members to watch at their leisure. And so, and of course, Neighbor Islands, it's all... Yes. We work with our Neighbor Island Bar Association, the Hawaii County Bar Association, West Hawaii, all of our Neighbor Island Bar Association. We work with them to implement at least three credits per year on the Neighbor Islands so that we reach out to as many members as possible. And so some of these outside providers, can you give me an idea of some of the courses? We've talked about the state bar courses on immigration and speech, but what would be some of examples of recent courses that maybe the law school or some of the public defender's office provided? A lot of times, recently they'll be doing programs on cybersecurity, which seems to be a very emerging topic for our members and for our lawyers, because oftentimes, if we're advising large companies, public institutions, we want to make sure that a data is secure, we want to make sure that even our law firms are secured in their own data and what they're maintaining for their client files. So cybersecurity is becoming a big topic that other providers are bringing out. The state bar association, we actually just did one. The state bar did one on cybersecurity. Last month we did a program on cybersecurity. And I know that, of course, every year there's the annual Hawaii State Bar Association convention. And is that an opportunity for you to provide some programming, some courses? So the bar convention will be held on October 18th this year. It's an all day program with the help of our sections, we provide quality programming throughout the whole day. It is open to the public, primarily people from the bar will attend only, but we do encourage public people to come and join us to learn about different topics in the law as well. But it is a big event and we really hope that more attorneys can participate to learn and to also participate in the monthly meeting, annual meeting to learn about the bar association and what's going on. So every state has its own state requirements for continuing education, I guess some don't have any. Are there any federal requirements? There are no federal requirements because the taxes of law is primarily centered on the states. Each individual state will set its own requirements for continuing legal education. If there's any state that doesn't require it, I think it's only one maybe. But other than that, I'm pretty sure all states require some form of continuing education for its members. Let's see. So I think we have another program on mandatory professionalism. Sir, do we have that? We can show. That's rule. Can you tell us a little bit about this program for the lawyers? Sure. It's the rule 1.1 for Supreme Court mandatory professionalism course. The Supreme Court requires all new active attorneys to take this course within one year of becoming active. It's a course to really set the groundwork about what your duties are as an attorney as you practice law, how to assist clients, how to deal with your own business, how to carry on the difficult job of being an attorney in a good way and professionally. So it's been put on, I'm not sure when it started, but the Supreme Court has required this and really required because it is so important that attorneys know how to maintain trust accounts and interact with their clients properly. And so when is that course going to be open? So we have, this is only for attorneys and we have, it's offered twice a year because it is required by the courts to attend. The first offering will be on June 10th and the second offering will be on November 18th. I see. And they're half day programs in the morning. I see. So now how is this different from an ethics course then? Ethics credits are provided in this course, it's generally an ethics course. The idea behind it is we need to make sure we all know how to follow the rules and not commit malpractice and do things that are not going to, are going to damage the reputation of attorneys and our clients as well. We want to protect the clients as much as possible. The whole purpose behind having silly requirements by any state is to protect the consumer. We want to make sure that clients are getting the best quality service and are being protected all the time. So ethics comes into play there and our efforts to educate really goes toward consumer protection really. Have you seen a growth in the field of ethics and the law? I know on my day, I'm dating myself, but we didn't have really an ethics course and certainly no ethics requirement on the bar. There's professionalism course, I mean it's designed for the new attorneys. After you pass the bar and you meet all the requirements to get admitted to them as a member of the bar, you have to take this course within one year of going on an active status with your license. So the idea is to set the groundwork right away with our new attorneys on what the standards are for practicing law in the state and what's expected of them in their field of choice. If there are any ethical violations, what happens? Is the public, how is the public protected? First there's the Office of Disciplinary Counsel. They are the primary gatekeepers for ethics and professionalism in the state for our attorneys. We also have a committee on professionalism within the state bar to examine and make sure we're staying up to date with current trends in professionalism and ethics and members of the public can call in to the Office of Disciplinary Counsel if they have complaints about lawyers, whether it's their own or something conduct from the opposing counsel that may have run afoul of the professionalism rules. All right, well that's very good to know. We're going to take a quick break, but again to reiterate, ethics issues for the lawyers are extremely important for the public and so there is a means for the public to contact the Bar Association, the Office of Disciplinary Counsel to check what's going on. So we'll be right back with my guests Levi and Tina Bae from the HSBA, we'll be right back. Aloha everybody, my name is Mark Shklav, I'd like you to join me for my program Law Across the Sea on thinktechhawaii.com. Aloha. Hello, I'm Marianne Sasaki, welcome to Think Tech Hawaii where some of the most interesting conversations in Honolulu go on. I have a show on Wednesdays from one to two called Life in the Law where we discuss legal issues, politics, governmental topics and a whole host of issues. I hope you'll join me. Are you looking to get shrunk? Join us on Shrink Wrap Hawaii. My name is Steven Phillip Katz, I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist. I see couples, individuals, families, you know why? Because we all have problems. And if you're curious about shrinks and what they talk about, come look at my show Shrink Wrap Hawaii and maybe you'll find your shrink. Welcome back. This is Karaman Lee again with my first show with our new series Education Matters and my guests are Levi Hocano from the Hawaii State Bar Association and Tina Fey also from the Hawaii State Bar Association. And they've both been lawyers and practicing and I've known them for a long time and appreciate your coming to our first show. So we spent the first half talking about the role of the Bar Association in keeping our own state lawyers up to date in terms of developments in the law, ethical requirements and ethical issues. So I thought we would spend this last portion of the show to talk about how the lawyers in our state turn around and educate the public. So if you could give us a little talk about that and Siri we have one last piece of information to show and that's a leadership institute flyer. So Levi do you want to talk to us about that? Sure. Back in 2007 the Bar Association had a strategic planning meeting to really take a look at the future of our profession and part of one of the major things that came out of that strategic planning meeting was the HSBA Leadership Institute. That program was instituted in 2009 and this year we're taking applications now for our ninth class. So it's been around for a long time now and it's developed every year and the idea behind it is for our attorneys who are three to fifteen years of practice. So pretty young attorneys right? Fairly new. Fairly new attorneys. And the idea is to develop them in their leadership skills not only within the legal profession but also within their communities because once somebody hears that you're an attorney all of a sudden things go off in their brains and they see you in a different light. So attorneys whether we like it or not can be viewed as leaders within our communities just by the nature of our profession. The idea is that we get our members to meet with members of our judiciary, our business community, access to justice, the government to develop them as all around leaders. Like I said, not just within the bar but also within our own communities. At the end of the program our leadership fellows are required to develop a program or a project that they have to complete before they actually finish the Leadership Institute. And so what kind of, and I know Tina was a fellow, what year was that, twenty? I was a 2014 fellow. Right. And what kinds of projects do they work on? I know that. Tina, tell us about your project. The projects are very wide, broad range. They can work to assist the bar but I think a good focus is to try to do things that are not in your regular realm of comfort and to try to help the community out. So whether it be starting a program in a school to encourage voting or something like that or all sorts of different topics can come up. I personally worked on actually a show for ThinkTech called the Living Legend Lawyers and I was on the back side of this green screen, or it's not green on TV, sorry. But if you're here, I was on the other side helping to memorialize the stories about our three-digit attorneys who are still surviving and have such great stories to tell about the old days when Hawaii was first admitted and just even prior to then what it was like to practice law and the path that they took to get here, I got to meet so many great people who are leaders in the community as well as the legal community and it was just a great learning experience for me personally and I hope that the program helps educate the public about the issues that attorneys have gone through as they've progressed in this career here in Hawaii and this helps to encourage young people to maybe be considered pursuing the career of law. So Levi, this program then is open to young lawyers between three and 15 years of experience and is there a charge? There is, there is a nominal fee of $250. We also have an opportunity to apply for financial assistance if needed. We encourage all of our members to apply. Usually our fellows are a cross-section of our community. We have people from large law firms, small law firms, solo practitioners, government attorneys, neighbor island attorneys, non-profits, legal service providers that we encourage everyone to apply. Do you have, you know, so what has happened to some of the earlier graduates? What kind of work have they gone out to do to? Well, I'm actually a member of the first class, 2009, of the Leadership Institute and I had a meeting last week with one of my fellow alums. He was visiting from the mainland after the Leadership Institute. He went to work for Apple in California and then now he's actually in Connecticut practicing law out there with an insurance firm and so we've gone all over the place since then. Some of my classmates have gone on to become general counsels at some of our, some of our businesses here in the state, heads of non-profits and gone on to some really great things since then I've come to work for the State Bar Association. Yeah, that's wonderful. So in addition to the formal education of law school, having something like a Leadership Institute gives you another set of skills then to use your, combine the legal background and then these leadership skills to pursue something that might have a wider appeal. Some of our members, some of the graduates of Leadership Institute and some of our, a lot of our other members are very active in our community. They try to reach out as much as possible. Our Young Lawyers Division actually does a lot to reach out to the community and educate the community about legal rights. They partner with our legal service providers like Volunteer Legal Services, Hawaii, Legal Aid and many of the other non-profit legal service providers to really reach out to the community so that they know some of their basic legal rights when it comes to areas of land or tenant, family law, immigration and some of the more mainstream legal topics. Right. So I know of course May 1 is Law Day and typically you hear about the shopping centers that may have tables on those days, but what else do you do? What else is the Bar Association and the, we might tell our viewers that there's a Young Lawyers, there's a Senior Counsel and then there's the in-between. There's everybody else. Well we're all members of the Bar. So what else besides Law Day, May Day do you do in terms of helping our community and besides these partnering with others? Well the Senior Counsel Division is also, in fact if the Senior Counsel Division has been going out to Moloka'i to talk to the members of the public out there to do a clinic on Moloka'i because it's tough to get assistance out there sometimes. So our Senior Counsel Division has been very good about doing that. In addition we also assist the judiciary with the courts in the community program. And what is that? So the Supreme Court has decided that they want to reach out to high school students and so what they'll do is they'll hold a Supreme Court hearing in a high school. A real hearing. A real case. A real case. And attorneys. Everything is on the line.  So rather than having it at the Supreme Court downtown, they can officially move the court to a high school auditorium. Yes. Recently we held one at McKinley High School last year. And actually next month the Supreme Court will be going to Maui and we'll be holding a Supreme Court hearing at Baldwin High School. No kidding. So the students all attend, get to hear, who isn't the audience? High school. Students attend and the great thing is volunteer attorneys will go to the classroom and actually teach the students about the course, the case that's being argued, so they have a really in-depth idea of what's going on. They're not just passive listeners but they're actually engaged in the argument themselves and they can ask questions to the judges and the attorneys after the argument is done and get their insight about what their argument may have been. The attorneys have found it to be greatly inspiring to see the young students that are so excited to learn this stuff and the students have a great chance to practice being an attorney from an early age and maybe perhaps get inspired to become an attorney as well. Boy, this is a very new development because I know they didn't do this in the old days. It's been a few years and some of the students that I've heard that attended the courts in the community program, when they would ask questions of the attorneys, the volunteer attorneys who were talking through the case with them, a lot of the things that they brought up within their classroom was brought up by the attorneys in the hearings. So it really reinforces I think with them that they're thinking like a lawyer even though they may not realize it at the time. So are they a specific type of cases because I imagine criminal cases you don't bring to them? But these are all Supreme Court cases?  They try to select cases that are would be interesting to the students. The most recent one that they did at McKinley was a case about custodian interrogation about whether somebody properly was read their Miranda rights before answering police questions in the marijuana case. Interesting. So what happens to the deliberation happens of course after and then do the students get informed? How do they get informed of the decision? Is that part of the education? Yeah, usually they'll get some kind of a notice that the case has been decided so they can see how the court came down on a case that they witnessed being argued. Very exciting. And what about so that's the high school students and then we of course you mentioned the senior bar going out to Molokai. Are there other areas besides let's say the community? Yes, the Young Lawyers Division. They do a lot of the community outreach on the campus. And who are young lawyers? The year that you turned 36 is their last year as a lawyer. Unless you've been admitted to the bar here for the first time unless Hawaii is your first bar admission you have five years of practice. So it's possible to be both a member of the senior council division and the Young Lawyers Division at the same time. So somebody started law school in their 60s. If they have a second career they could be a member of both both sections at the same time but the Young Lawyers Division really does a lot of the community outreach on behalf of the bar and of course they take volunteers from all ranges of the bar not just a young lawyer can volunteer with the Young Lawyers Division but they also do the Junior Judges Program. And what is that? That is where the we'll have volunteers right he's going to speak to third graders through sixth graders about making good decisions in their lives. They are the junior judge so they we talk to them about topics that they'll encounter every day bullying vandalism cheating stealing a variety of topics that they're likely to encounter at some point while in elementary school. And so how is that lined up is it through the Department of Education or is it how did they find the schools and the classrooms to go to? We usually reach out to the schools we'll send an email a letter out to the schools across the state to see if they'd be interested in participating. Sometimes it's a little bit difficult if their curriculum is already set and we know that the school here is a tightly packed schedule so if they're able to fit us in we'll be sure to go out there and talk with the students about these issues. So we have viewers who are interested in participating having the Bar Association come out to their schools they should just contact. They can reach out to us through the Young Lawyers Division, wildy at HSBA.org and then we can see if we can set something up. If they want to have us come and speak to a career day we'll coordinate with some volunteer attorneys talk about what it is that lawyers do and have the road to law school and some of their options. So any other programs we just have another minute here? Oh we also have the high school mock trial program which is actually ongoing right now. We're actually in the very final stages of our high school mock trial program. And quickly what is that? Our volunteer attorneys will work with the high school class. It's separate from like debate and things like that but they will run through a mock case. They'll argue in front of the judge at the circuit court and the finals will be held at the Supreme Court. Wow what a wonderful opportunity. Well we just have a few more seconds and Tina and Levi you have an opportunity to look right into camera too and to tell our audience what parting words you'd like to have the our viewers know about educating both two ways how lawyers are educated and how we educate the public. Well we have a lot of information available on our website HSBA.org. We have two separate tabs on our website one for lawyers to talk about our CLE programs and what kind of programs we have coming up in the future. As well as a tab for the public where members of our public who are looking for legal assistance or legal information can click on those links and get the information that they need. Okay so please visit our website HSBA.org and browse around and contact us as you need to. Thank you well thank you so much Levi thank you Tina and again this is the first show of our new series Education Matters and on behalf of the Think Tech thank you so much for participating in today's program and aloha.


Welcome to this Domains 21 session. I am joined today by Katarina Schultz and Christian Fradrich and they'll be here today talking to us about outside their domain introducing German higher ed to Domain of One Zone which is near and dear to my heart so please Katarina and Christian take it away. Thanks Jim we're very happy to be here and talk about our project and yeah it's a special occasion for us. Yeah thanks very much so what we have planned for for today for this session is we'll kick things off with a short presentation a couple of slides that Katarina will present and then hope to dive into a more conversational part especially with you Jim but of course not also with everyone participating and viewing this session so let me just see if this works now you should be able to see my screen now right yeah thank you nice yeah so first off we have a short presentation about our project it's just simply called Domain of One Zone because actually the concept is not very well known in Germany and that's one of the main goals of our project to make it better known in Germany and our project is funded by the University of Applied Sciences Hamburg Haavi Hamburg as part of a corporation of all or most or most Hamburg universities called the Hamburg Open Online University it all started at an event called OER camp meets hacks and tools the OER camps was a series of barcamps funded by the German Ministry of Education and Science and the hacks and tools was sort of a workshop where where people could bring their OER projects and work with coaches and it was also the opportunity to win funding and Christian and I were there it was almost exactly a year ago and we had talked about doing something on Domain of One Zone before and we spontaneously decided to pitch for funding and this is us during the pitch and yeah so we were a bit surprised because it was all spontaneous and we actually won a little bit of funding by Hamburg Open Online University the project has sort of the main task or one of the main aims is as I said making domain of one's own better known in Germany but also is when you translate something into German or any other language you also have to to suit it to the country and not only translated but also look at the differences and what the special what the culture needs and so we are sort of trying to adapt domain of one's own for Germany so we it started off with a white paper by edu course seven things you need to know about domain of one's own and we're trying to adapt this for the German culture for the German higher ed landscape yeah the main goal is to tell people how to do it so what is it because as I said it's not very well known so we want to provide material about what the concept entails and but also what they should know if they want to try to implement it at their own university and so we're looking at the at the concept from different perspectives pedagogy didactics but also cultural circumstances organizational aspects and but also the students perspective is very important for us we started out by taking a look at the concept through a series of conversations which we recorded in a podcast and we had different guests from different fields we had someone who is an expert on open education and works in is a professor in the field but we also we talked with the students and we also talked with people who are more in the strategic sector in German higher ed apart from the podcast we are also going to develop white papers and sort of guides or how-to's that you so you have a guideline if you want to implement the concept in your teaching what we'd like to talk about now is the challenges that we face but also we brought a couple of questions that we could would like to discuss with people who have experience with the concept and some of the the challenges we face is that Germany is a largely conservative or it has very conservative traditions the German higher ed landscape and but it's also largely publicly funded which means it's traditionally under funded and it also has a culture that is not very open to change and yes so we brought a couple of questions that we could discuss and we would also like to hear from you about your experiences and also your success stories so we're hoping there those are out there but one of the things I wanted to ask as we start this and I'm pretty interested in is over the last five or six years since about 2016 when a German contingent came to OER and I was actually at that conference there seemed to be a moment in the German higher ed landscape where it's like OER is something we need to pursue and I wonder like how has that developed and do you see overlap in the work you're doing with the larger push and funding of open educational resources so I'll start there and then we can address those questions as we move part of the reason why and I was at that conference in 2016 in Edinburgh part of the reason I think why at least more and more take up among the the German communities and around open education was especially to the OER conference I think were two things and on the one hand there was some funding available with OER info I think Jürgen Musmehlitz has talked a bit about that and the OER camp for example where we pitched this idea and then developed this idea of trying to convert ideas of Domain of One Zone to the German landscape that's basically OER the OER camp so this this kind of conference is financed or was financed by OER info in in large parts at least together with the Hamburg University of Applied Sciences and that kind of enabled a more systematic take up of OER and open education principles in the German landscape in 2016 there was also the most recent coalition in the German government you all know Angela Merkel probably and in the coalition papers it was stated that Germany would try and develop an OER strategy that hasn't really happened yet now in the last six or seven eight months of this of this government being in charge it seems almost like a fig leaf approach to develop a OER strategy now at least from what I can tell but of course that they are starting that and they're starting with conversations around that and there I think a week before this airs we should have more input on how the consultations with different stakeholders went I think they're scheduled for mid-April which is also a first so the the Ministry of Education doesn't usually consult stakeholders in this kind of official manner when developing strategies so OER is playing a role but OER info the the project that I just mentioned that is kind of supposed to network different actors was not continued and ended by I think March no fall in 2020 I see some similarities I work in the field of open access so support for research publications and that's something that has also there have been strategies by the government and by by federal states and then recently I read that the Green Party they have in there for the coming elections so one of their claims is that open access should become the standard for research publications and that's exactly the same sentence that has been in strategies for 10 years or 15 years and so I have the same thing seems to be happening with OER strategy so it it doesn't really it's not really much happening there there's strategies but we don't really see a lot of structural change so one of the things I'm interested in is I mean it sounds to me when you frame the the broader public funded fairly conservative because that is public funds and you know the risks you take have a lot of implications more broadly for the nation so I'm wondering how do you see the main of one's own within the context of German higher education a lot of folks who I who will be talking about it and chatting about it and you'll hear about may use it as a form of a portfolio an experimental place to kind of narrate your learning over time places for faculty to share their research I mean but in the end we're talking about a website that you and maybe a community control and build and it's not limited to one technology but hopefully gives you access to several so in the context of the German higher ed landscape how would that or how are you positioning that as something where folks would be enticed or from my experience you have to be a sort of a bit you have to make sure that you don't come across as someone who wants to change everything because then people only think of the challenges and all the reasons why it wouldn't work so when you try to explain the idea most people say oh so it's like an e-portfolio because that's something that German universities have been doing not all of them but it's sort of they know about it and they can relate to domains from that viewpoint and from my experience I think it's best to try to start small and not to yeah try to change the whole landscape of a university that's that's right if you come across as the flag-carrying revolutionary trying to conquer a campus or an IT center at on a on a campus you'll be shut out but on the other hand I think that the very very very many things of the main of one's own kind of are great fits to the overall culture and strategy of public universities being publicly funded and I can hear like Robin DeRosa sigh in the back a bit of about your your higher ed sector is mostly publicly funded and that given given that domains enables you to claim your space on the public web on for everybody to be able to to access it if you allow them to if you if you enable that whatever kind of technology you use I think that's for example a great a great fit and can easily be tacked to different kind of strategic viewpoints that universities and higher ed actors sometimes have on the other hand what we ran into quite a lot by now is like this we've we've been there before we've done that before kind of feedback so many of you and I know you Jim you might remember this as well I'm pretty I'm pretty sure you do because I think I stumbled upon a couple of screenshots of a couple of like personal HTML designed websites that faculty and staff at a university had in the 90s and I think I'm not sure maybe somebody can will be able to dig it up or I might be able to find it I think I even saw that in a blog post by you Jim a couple of years ago where you kind of highlighted those HTML based websites that could look kind of freaky several of them were German actually and several of them are German we just we just ran a workshop with the university in Mainz in Germany and there was one oh yeah with the workshop was based in Frankfurt but there was one guy from the university in Mainz or who was based at the university in Mainz at their IT department and he was like well I don't know what you're talking about we basically shut down what you're talking about in 2018 so up until that point they had those sites up and running and not many people were able to claim that because it was kind of technologically not as accessible if you this this kind of disconnect and I think to some extent it even ignores that there's pedagogy there's organizational development evolved there's all these things that might have been ignored when this was around in the 90s yeah I think that's the problem from what that guy told us it wasn't they so they just gave them the space the web space and there was no support there was no there might have been technical support but nobody helped them and gave them ideas what they could do with it it wasn't embedded in the pedagogy that the teaching and learning so of course it doesn't work the the idea of the 90s web there's a a Russian net artist Olya Liolina who I'm really interested in and she just wrote a piece from from my to me talking about the changing nature of the web from a kind of my site my space my you know geosities to me look at me here I am and and how the me is always on another platform that you don't know and I think that point you're making about these faculty who actually were doing open education were sharing their courses were building out resources for students were running entire courses online in the 90s using html we're really aligning in kind of in some ways not only aligning but full-blown bulldozing a whole infrastructure of the web and open educational resources in place of these platforms in place of these vendor solutions in place of you name it and the point you're making which is really interesting because I was on a call recently where there was a school who was arguing we need to get rid of you know hundreds of html sites on an Apache server because like they're no longer sustainable and I have this voice in my head from Olya Liolina's recent you know article where I'm like that's a mistake like I don't know if this makes sense to start thinking of the web as a kind of a necessary singular progress where the idea of building and creating a sense in a presence that you have and that can be consistent and maybe not the brand that the university is going for is important and I think in some ways that space of a domain of one's own whether it's to reclaim or wherever is important because a lot of those faculty have become disempowered with the work that they did for many of them several decades so it's a really interesting question around how much power do we seed not only to the big platforms right but also even to central it of the work we've done over time and I think that really puts domains to me in a very interesting place because historically the need for it is there but I think that might be one of the big obstacles in Germany actually central it and central communication departments who don't really want to give not only students but also faculty they don't want to give them their own domains that's the first thing you hear at several universities why should we should central communication allow students to have their own domain when even we the faculty aren't allowed to have it and you talk to central it and when you're building a publication server like an institutional repository yeah but they can put on that server they can put anything they want who controls the quality and so that's I think that's big obstacle in Germany it's a question there and it came up recently I think Gardner Campbell blogged just the other day about this idea of how do we and why why do we have the power to seed so much of the cultural history of an institution and the thinking for faculty for students on these different technologies whether they're html sites from the 90s or say web a wordpress site that's no longer wanting to be supported by central it or whatever how do we give one group that much power to say no or to say goodbye and this isn't to vilify central it because they have a lot of real challenges in this changing ecosystem right like they have hard to keep on to their to their employees because so much they can make so much money elsewhere they have to outsource a lot of that to keep up I mean there's challenges at least I'm speaking from the US perspective but at the same time politically and policy wise these decisions are being made unilaterally about a whole history of web-based learning where I think in this moment during the pandemic we'd be like oh maybe it's important to hold on to a little bit of that long history to understand where we were where we are and where we're going but I find that stuff is just bulldoze kind of like cities during the 60s as they're getting ready for the next wave of gentrification it's really crazy part like I have two thoughts on that and the first one is is pretty short I think the the whole job description of the central IT is to be risk averse and not to and that kind of that deconstructs lots lots of innovation quite quickly actually I mean to to some extent you just hit a wall because the in the end any kind of security be copyright wise or anything else like that might be in the way or might be might need to be figured out and in that moment IT at this moment can say we're not doing this and that is because from my experience lots of higher ed institutions in Germany and sometimes elsewhere as well think of IT kind of as like the the executing branch kind of like a not no disrespect but kind of like the janitor of the university when it comes to the digital like you you just do what you're told and you you try not to cost as much you'll you have to be efficient and effective in what we want you to do but you kind of deliver the bare minimum at least in in Germany that's quite often the case and I have high respect for the people still doing that job because you have to keep a lot of balls in the air kind of you have to juggle quite a bit you have to outsource you you need to recruit people who can actually do the work while not being able to pay salaries that would be like industry standard so there's lots of balls in the air and then then we come along and ask people to hey wouldn't it be a cool idea if like the the first semester students got their own domain when they when they join our institution and they will just throw their hands in the air and tell you to leave the room and I can understand how they do that and I think it's a strategic and organizational development challenge then and it's not about IT anymore and this is something we've seen I think for for over a decade longer now of IT from the academic mission and at some points they're actually working at cross purposes given that idea of trying to keep everything controlled and some of the unknowns that come with IT and some of the larger kind of possibilities for you know what we see like systemic failure if an application doesn't work so that push for an enterprise singular application often means they're more concerned about one thing being reliable and not about a whole different garden of you know various you know herbs and flowers and plants and vegetables that you're growing so that you have a rich kind of well-balanced diet to use a bad metaphor so it is I mean and it's an ongoing struggle and on the other side we we in some ways reclaim hosting not to use this as a little commercial but don't ever put it past me is one of the things that actually happens is we find ourselves in that weird space where there is IT organizations that can't or won't do it and there's faculty and students and groups and organizations on campus that need to do it and so it just fits a need and IT doesn't mind because they don't want to be left holding the bag and they have other things to do and yet we're kind of situated in that we understand the needs and kind of deal with these applications and these server infrastructures on a regular basis so it's that kind of strange thing that I always thought I was going to be instructional technologist at a university for life but turns out universities are more interested in getting help from a third party often corporate situation and in some ways it's easy at least in America to velify the vendor and you know celebrate the university and what could be and I understand that struggle but at the same time the universities are the one who are looking for those alternatives because and that's the people who kind of are doing this because internally they're not getting support and so there's a weird struggle there and I wonder just how you are both working in some ways externally to try and rethink how folks can do it internally I imagine that presents some real struggles so what are some of the examples you use like when you go how do you frame it like how do you say here's what's happening wouldn't you want to allow your students of faculty to do this I think we're still on the way of figuring this out so we've looked at for example Coventry and because they kind of have this this great intro to what does domains mean on their website and I think that's a good example because it kind of enables us to say well this was started at least while they were still within in the European Union right so any kind of the the the UK sector at least is perceived sometimes as a bit more comparable to what we have in continent on continental Europe so that's one thing the e-portfolio was mentioned before like this this can be a segue into this whole thing and I think it's a classic but also linking it to institutional strategies and maybe even regional strategies like the Hamburg of Hamburg of Monline University does so claiming that learning and teaching should kind of interact with society as a whole and and making that more strategic maybe even not as easily graspable argument but those kinds of segues we we've tried out also and that's I think my last point to this is you can link the main of one's own to something that many people would say is kind of an almost an not an not an explicit goal of higher ed education quite quite often but like anything that can be linked to digital literacies or digital or or any kind of competence framework nobody ever asks a student after university well how are your Moodle skills how are your I don't know LMS skills but if you if you come out of university and you can I don't know work with WordPress you know PHP HTML whatever it is I wish I had been at a university running this stuff because my life would be much easier now and I think that goes for lots of other people in their job world but also in like the their private lives and one thing you can also start try to connect to when talking about domains is there are a couple of universities that try to do research-based learning so foshunders down that's a big thing in Germany has a sort of a strong it has strong advocates in Germany and so that's also where I come from from the open access viewpoint so trying to link student publishing to domains can also work there there are projects that try to have students publish also as part of their studies so that that's also something that some universities can relate to I have to say this has been an amazing conversation I want to thank you both for taking the time to not only promote the good word of domain of one's own far and wide in Germany but also just thinking critically about what it means to do something like this in a different context culturally politically etc it's it's super interesting and hopefully you'll find not only other people inspired by your work but also inspired by others so that the virtuous circle can keep on turning so thank you both for joining us for another great session and domains 21 big fan thank you thanks for making this work looking forward to the other sessions I'm not not


Good morning sir. Krutika? Yes sir. So Krutika is from Indore? Yes sir. And your subjects are forestry and maths? Yes sir. This is your third attempt? Yes sir. What happened in the previous two attempts? Sir, I could not hear problems in the previous two attempts. How many months you studied forestry? Sir, for 15 days. Only 15 days? Just after my main CSC main. And 15 days you could qualify for this exam? Yes sir. So what all you studied in forestry? Sir, about the silvicultural systems and then forest menstruation and the techniques to improve the forest cover and how to maximize the production. What are the techniques to improve the forest cover? Sir, different silvicultural methods are being used. For example, depending upon the species and the climatic region of the area and the soil, different species are planted. Since, suppose you are a forest officer posted in a division which is having habitations all around near the forest. And forests are very degraded, totally degraded. How you are going to rehabilitate those forests? Sir, firstly under the Indian Forest Act. And those are natural forests? Yes sir. Sir, under the Indian Forest Act of 1927, I will have the power to rehabilitate the villages located in that region. So there will be, the area will be defined for which the preserved forest is. So you will relocate those villages from that area? Sir, I will have to make them based on the consensus building. They will be relocated where? Sir, you are saying of forestry isn't it? I am not telling their encroachers. They are telling near to the forest there are lot of habitations. That forest land is degraded. How you are going to rehabilitate that land? Sir, for that we will be using the joint forest management technique. So that the villages, the locals living in that area can help in management? What operations you will do in that forest area? Sir, firstly the regeneration techniques depending on the soil of that region. What are the techniques? Your father is head constable in excise department. Yes sir. Okay, that post is also called head constable? Yes sir. Police also head constable is there? Yes sir. And in forest service? What is the post equivalent post? Forest guards. Forester? Forester. Forest guard will be say constable that will be forester. Just compare these three services which is better placed in terms of pay scales, infrastructure, working conditions. Sir, in terms of working conditions, forester has more challenging task to do as he need to take care of the forest region and to tackle the encroachments and poaching if any. So as far as working conditions are concerned which is better placed? They are better, excise is better or police is better? Sir, I believe excise department is better placed. How? Because in forest there are various challenges for our forest. Okay, okay. How excise is better placed? So comparatively otherwise all the three have their own challenges. That's what I am asking. How comparatively they are better placed? What is the job of excise head constable? Sir, to control the illegal liquor if it is getting sale in nearby region then to control that thing. Only that much? And also it is basically for the revenue generation of the state government. So that is the role of the excise department. Okay, illegal liquor is being brewed in the forest area. What will be role of your father and what will be your role as a default? Sir, if illegal liquor is there then it will be under the excise department of that region. And of the forest department will need to collaborate with the excise department and the police department to make the case against them. Okay, we have lot of international laws, treaties, conventions. And power to implement those lies with the central government. Whether that particular treaty once India has signed become party can be implemented in India as such or you need something. We need to legislate it through parliament and then we can implement it. Legislate what? To ratify that treaty. Ratify, it is ratified. Then parliament then passes a legislation for its implementation in our country. Okay, suppose legislation is not passed and treaty India is a party for many years. What will happen? Will not be a signed treaty. Treaty signed? Ratified. That is ratified. Sir, if legislation only passed then only its implementation takes place. So, India has signed it. India is party but in less lesson is not there so it will not be implemented. State governments can implement it. How state government when central government does not pass the law? How state government can implement it? We have already ratified it and signed it. So, if they can implement there is no need to pass law. But if the legislation is passed it becomes mandatory for the state governments to implement those provisions which are mentioned in the treaty. There are powers to Gornar in the constitution. President have got some powers. Whether there is any provision that Gornar can refer some matters to president for advice? Yes sir, there are certain matters. Which involves federal principles then that matters are to be referred to president. By the Gornar? Yes sir, by the Gornar. Under what provision of the constitution it is there? Sir, I am unable to recall the article number. Alright, Ms. Jaiswal. Yes. You are from IIT Delhi. Yes. What is the address of IIT Delhi? It is Hoshkas, IIT Delhi Hoshkas. Okay. What is Hoshkas? It is an area it is mainly famous for the monuments of the Madivina. No, what is Hoshkas? There is a lake in the region because of which it has been named such. The Khas water body. Who constructed it? Sir, I don't know that. Allowed in Khilji. Can you name, can you tell us about traditional way of water conservation? Sir, earlier step wells were used for water conservation. Then... What is the Hindi term for that? Baoli. Yeah, Baoli. Yes. So, like aggresive Baoli is there in Delhi. In Gujarat, many of these Baoli's are heritage sites. Yes, sir. What are the importance of that? Why should we classify? Why it has been classified as heritage? It is after all just a water conservation. As it is being a traditional conservation method, which is very helpful and is specific to that region. So, it has been classified as... Have you been to these Baoli's? No, sir. Step wells. Is it just to conserve water or is it a place where cultural events or meetings happen during... I believe meetings too happen in the nearby region and it is basically used for the water from there, is used for drinking and irrigation purposes. It also has architectural significance. Yes, sir. Now, you also play chess. Yes, sir. How has artificial intelligence recently revolutionized the whole chess game? Sir, in 1997, the Deep Blue Company, they made a software which defeated the then world champion Gary Kasper over. So, from that... that was the point from which the artificial intelligence... Are you aware of that game? Yes, sir. So, what really happened? Sir, firstly... Okay, let's talk about the move. That is the second game in 1997. Yes, sir. What exactly was the move which led people to believe that this is more than human? Sir, it was an untraditional move. Like, from that move, it was thought that some mistake was done, which Gary Kasperov can understand and can make use of that... Alright, I am also into chess. So, can you tell me what exactly was that move and... because you are also into chess? I do not exactly remember that, but it was like... it was an unconditional move, which in general should not be played at that time. So, it was believed that something has happened and that's why that move was played. Alright, so that is of course because of the algorithms which is used by conventional classical algorithm. But now in the last few years, at least last two years, something really different has happened. Like Alpha 0. Are you aware of it? Sir, it has been more advanced and can easily defeat the human champions in the field of chess. Yeah, what is different about this particular algorithm? I am not aware of that. It is not based on human experience. Other algorithms are fed of all the games, but this has not been fed of anything, it has just been fed tools and it has created its own moves. So, you should watch Stock Fish versus Alpha 0. The most powerful chess game, which is based on the classical algorithm, it has been comprehensively defeated by Alpha 0. If you are interested, you should watch. That is really about artificial intelligence and shows that it can access reality which we are not aware of. Maybe you should... The previous candidate was asking about Pi. What is the importance of Pi? Pi is the... For any circular region, it is the circumference divided by its diameter. So, it gives the same value which is equivalent to Pi. That is 22 by 7. So, it is a standard value for any circle. Can we say that? You do not have to need to have a circle. And what about Pi 3.14? What is it? It is the approximated value of Pi. That is 3.14, which we say... No, it continues. It continues till the end and it is non-recurring. It is infinite. It is infinite and non-recurring, but we approximate it to 3.14. All right. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Your father was from Balwani, and you are from... Khargon. So, you must have seen both places? Yes, Khargon. I visited once only. And Balwani, I was born in Balwani. Balwani. What do you remember the Nimad area of Madhya Pradesh? Sir, it is named because of the presence of Neem trees. So, Nimad region, Neem trees. trees. What is called the Paris of Nimaar? It is the Nimaar reason. Badwani is only called Paris of Nimaar. Exactly. We are involved there. That is called the Paris of Nimaar. Yes sir. That is very beautiful place. Okay. What do you understand? The ecology. Please tell, define what is the ecology? Why we study ecology? What it contains? So the ecology. What is the subject? So it refers to the living organisms and the plants of the region nearby and the interrelationship between the living organisms and the environment of the area. So in Badwani it is mainly, it has a lot of forest region and. Badwani has a lot of forest. It has been cut. It has been cut but it has mainly like it is on the bank of Narmada river and surrounded by Vindhya and Satura ranges. Even your Khargon has also lost the beautiful forest. Forest cover. Yes sir. And it has been encroached. Encroachment was one of the reason for that. Very big problem. Right. So I want to know what do you understand by the ecosystem? What is the ecosystem? The ecosystem of a region is, it consists of the living organisms, plants and animals and the interrelationship between all of them. What are the ecosystem services? There are various services like provisioning services that they provide, supporting services, then cultural or recreational services provided by the ecosystem. Another very important. Regulating services. Yes sir. Okay. Please tell three, four national parks, important national parks in Madhya Pradesh. Have you visited any? Sir, I have not visited any national park but I have visited the zoo of Indore. Zoo of Indore. Okay. And national parks are one year national park in Bhopal, then Panna National Park, Bandhavgarh stair, Sanjay Dobri. Okay. What is the role of the visual forest officer? What do you visualize that suppose you join as a visual forest service officer? Yes sir. What is the role of a DFO? Sir, it is firstly the administration of the protected areas of the region and secondly, policing power is there with respect to encroachment in the region nearby, then well-being of tribals in that region. So these three. And also the preparation of working plan for the forest area. Okay. Great. Okay. Indore was in use recently. What for? So firstly it has been the cleanest city for last five years. So that is one reason. And one more reason. Just think it was published in paper also. Waterplus. It has been the first Waterplus city. Okay. Please tell three flagship programs in Madhya Pradesh and three flagship programs of government activity. This is my last question. Okay. So in terms of agriculture, it has done very well and has been awarded the. I want the name. Proposed by Shirasimh Chauhan, your CM. Sir, recently adopt Anganwadi program was recently adopted by the chief minister of Madhya Pradesh. Then secondly, a lot of investment in terms of investment, it has been increasing. Like for example, in the Indore region and increasing the super corridors, increasing the connectivity. I want the name of the program. MP has done a lot about the good programs which has been copied by state government of India also. Okay. Now tell three important programs of the orbit of India, which is very successful. Sir, firstly the Swachh Bharat mission. Okay. Then secondly, the Ayushman Bharat Yojana for providing the health care, secondary and tertiary health care facilities. Right. And the Pradhan Mantri Kalyan, Garib Kalyan Yojana. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Why is Indore regarded as the economic and financial capital of Madhya Pradesh? Sir, firstly the financial capital because of the presence of Madhya Pradesh stock exchange there. And economic capital because it has the rising industries, rising commercial industries. It has the Pithampur belt present nearby. Then also it is an educational hub and also better health care infrastructure. So all these things have been contributed to the economy of Madhya Pradesh. What are the kind of industries which are located in Pithampur? Sir, in Pithampur mainly the pharmaceutical industries are present. And also the Natrax facility, which is the automotive testing center that has been there in Pithampur. Can you name some innovations or some new developments in sustainable fertilizers? Fertilizers. Name quoted Yurya? Name quoted Yurya is one which has helped in efficient utilization of Yurya. Okay, no problem.  Can you tell me why wind energy has slightly failed to take off in India despite India having a good potential? Sir, firstly it is not available for whole of the day and so that is one backdrop of wind energy. Why is it not available for whole of the day? Sir, because wind cannot flow. It stops at night? The regular speed is not maintained throughout the day. That is only reason? And lack of investments too. And lack of initial cost being high for that. What is the fuel cell? It is in which we, using the chemical energy it is converted to the electrical energy using a fuel cell. And what are the applications of fuel cells? It is being used in electrical vehicles to promote the, to ensure electricity and mainly for electricity generation purpose. Okay. So which is better suited for India given the presence of some hybrid vehicle or electrical vehicles? Sir, electrical vehicles are good but we need to ensure good battery package for that. For example, the solid state batteries which will be more efficient and less energy in that. And so electric vehicles for currently? Okay. How should we move with the tariff increases in the electricity sector? Because if we do not increase the tariffs then the state electricity boards are becoming unbiable and they are running into huge losses. Yes. How do you proceed with that? Sir, firstly to make our electrical sector more efficient transmission losses need to be reduced so that the productivity increases and the efficiency increases in that terms. So that is one thing and it can be made as a, which is recently proposed that it can be ensured as a commodity, electricity as a commodity so that efficient utilization of electricity is being done. And tariff increases, nothing on that? Yeah. Price per unit, shouldn't it be increased? Sir, if it is made as a commodity then the tariff can be reduced so that efficiently it can be utilized. Okay, no issue. What is extended producer responsibility? Sir, it is the responsibility of the person who has initially made that product to dispose it off at the end. So that is the... Where is it applicable in which industries or which sectors? In plastic management it has been applicable and the producers of the plastic need to ensure that they dispose it off safely. One more category? The e-waste management door. Yes, e-waste also. Right. Okay, thank you. Thanks.


everyone shiver 1000 here got monkey beside me she's got the music off for me because I forgot copyright stuff we're gonna back there gonna go get our Christmas to you a month so I know it's early but hey we got the money now these trees are expensive we got the money now and we're gonna decorate it on Thanksgiving because we usually get our tree Thanksgiving weekend but this weekend I'm not gonna be home the day after Thanksgiving when we usually get it and she's not gonna be home we're both not gonna be home the following day which is Saturday and we're not coming home till Sunday so I'll be gone all weekend she'll be gone Saturday until Sunday so yeah so that's what we're doing we're gonna go ahead and get it now it's only a few more days earlier than what we usually do so we're almost there and we're you guys are kicking on a minute the place we used to go and cut our own tree it was an actual forest and they would take you out on a horse and wagon or a tractor and wagon and they would drop you off in whatever section you want to be dropped off in you'll cut your tree down drag it up to the road and they loaded 40 and do all the real reasonable price too yeah yeah but you got to cut your own tree and they provided the salt okay guys so here's what we're what about this one mama out through the roof we can go eight feet I forgot my tape measure you want to get a fat one that's where you can sit and get your picture taken hey we're gonna look for a tree okay I think we found our tree I think this is it it's a little shorter than what we wanted but it is bush hands kind of full so it should be okay so I think this is one we're gonna get so here's a tree sorry I didn't get to show you guys much but you know the music the copyrighted music I think it's about a five and a half six foot but it was kind of the bushiest one we could find so I'm gonna take our nabs that's the one we picked out that's one monkey like a monk yep yep so as you seen we took the boat got our Christmas tree right yeah I was easy yeah throw it in there and yeah better than trying to put it in the car or on top yeah I don't want them needles scratch in top of the car so there it is anyway guys fortune along with another one I forgot my Santa hat this year yeah first year I didn't want my Santa hat I didn't always halfway there only a couple miles up from the house so yeah but so anyway there it is only took us an hour this time yeah not bad but I still feel better than what the guy told us you know about that woman that woman comes in three days in a row she picks the tree she wants she puts them on hold she puts them on hold and she comes back and she picks out all the trees that she the real tree that she wants to take home but she she puts she puts all hasn't put all those back yeah every day yeah until finally about the third day she'll finally pick out her tree yeah every year she does the same thing so they expect it yeah he said I love her to pieces but my god but he said that's what we do you know and our first year we spent two hours and we thought oh my god two hours on a tree her second year but the first year we we picked out from them they were right down down the street right it took us two hours yeah this year it only took an hour yeah yeah well they still have a lot of them bundled up and you can't see well they just open today yeah so it kind of made it hard to really see any of them well they're all pretty much the same but that was the busiest one we could find yeah and we like the bushy yeah well our second year together the first tree we bought off of them was halfway out in the middle of the couch was this way yeah and you still had to go sideways to sit on the couch yeah and it was clear to the top of the ceiling right yeah that was a big tree yep and I think we paid about the same as what we paid for this tree then yeah yeah yeah a tree that size now is 130 bucks yeah yeah we gave 80 for this one it was 85 but they send us a card every year for five dollars off right yeah trees are getting it makes it hard for families yeah anyways we got our next year I'll go cut one down how the forest that's what we need to do really just go get one out of force yeah that's anybody Ohio man every year you get to cut down your own tree it's tree farm yeah big bonfire and a lot chocolate I've never been to a tree farm they have them here the one year it only snowed one year but the year of snowed it was so cool yeah yeah cuz it was snowing really coming down then the years after that it was like being down here it was warm the last year it was it was chilly but yeah well this week is gonna be nice it's gonna be beautiful all week hopefully Friday fingers crossed I don't care about Saturday well keep our fingers every time we put that tens up it rains hi do your thing like he says she's out bye y'all save every month man gone for now we'll see you guys the next one thanks for watching bye bye and take care


Former WWE superstar and current The Surreal Life contestant CJ Perry has been in a relationship with professional wrestler Miro Slav Barnyshev now known as the Redeemer Miro for a number of years, both on and off-screen. These two began their relationship almost 10 years ago now and they've survived not only their exit from the WWE but the equally hazardous decision to move in with one another after having only been dating them less than two years. Also, Michael and I have dropped our own house tour of our new home that we moved into this year so go ahead and subscribe to our personal channel if you want to see where we're living and more of what we're up to. In these videos we don't reveal any addresses and even though I've done a house tour of my own place please do not show up at any private residences because it's not safe for anyone. Way back in March of 2013, CJ and Miro signed on the dotted line to buy a stunning family home in the heart of Nashville, Tennessee. Mere months before Miro would make his debut on WWE programming is Alexander Ruzev in NXT. Much later that year, art would imitate life when CJ was brought in to serve as Ruzev's on-screen manager adopting the persona of Lana, the ravishing Russian, much to the delight of millions of fanboys all across the world. While their professional life was heating up on the TV screens every off-day which in the world of professional wrestling doesn't happen all that often, these two would travel back to Tennessee to relax and unwind. CJ and her hubby selected Nashville as their home base due in large part to its central location. Basically, no matter where they happened to be performing in the country on any given day they could easily hop on a jet and not have to endure a really long flight back home. According to TMZ, CJ and Miro had already been living together for a full year when they first decided to put down some roots together and it didn't take them long to find this sweet deal. A four bedroom, four bathroom spread, situated on 11.56 acres of land for only 644K. The front exterior of this charming home might come across as a little unassuming but the interior is where things pick up. Stepping foot inside there's a two-story front foyer with hardwood floors and a central staircase with wrought iron railing that leads up to the second level. But before heading up there, let's check out a few rooms on the main floor first. There's a wide open living space that CJ and Miro no doubt turned into a pretty amazing game room offering a built-in dartboard and a classic pool hall chandelier hanging from the ceiling. Then their kitchen is more modern and chic, which comes complete with marble countertops, all-white appliances and cabinets, as well as a charming little breakfast nooks surrounded by windows. Over on the other side of the main floor is the home's formal dining room that includes a chandelier fan hanging overhead and an entire wall of custom-built darkwood cabinets. Upstairs, all you're gonna find up there are the bedrooms and bathrooms but where this property really excels is with its stunning outside grounds. Not only does it have a custom-made screened-in deco back that provides all the enjoyment of Tennessee's gorgeous weather without any of those annoying bugs, but if you venture a little further out, you'll see a stunning in-ground pool that's only a few feet away from a nearby jacuzzi. And that's not all. The property also includes its very own basketball court outback as well as a handful of trails that explore the estate's nearly 12 acres of land to its fullest extent. There's even a charming red barn that comes included with this house and my best guess is that Miro set himself up a wrestling-green side to practice who his heart's content. Last but definitely not least, the home is set right on top of a pond so whenever these two are lucky enough to be home, they get to enjoy some peaceful water views. But as nice as this home is, there's one spot inside of it where CJ spends the most amount of her time. I'm talking, of course, about her enviable home gym. CJ Lee's home gym is a pretty thorough, even if it's kind of basic setup, that has a little bit of everything she could possibly need, including her three dogs. CJ originally set this space up in her home's garage during the pandemic when all of the gyms she'd usually go to were sealed up tight. So over the span of about two weeks, she would put together the perfect gym. To begin with, she ordered herself a bench press. Next, she added a seven-foot-long barbell that she then attached to the bench to practice her Olympic-level lifting with some giant-sized rubber bumper plates. Even with all that equipment, filling up space in her garage, CJ still managed to carve out enough room to get in some weight-assisted squats. I mean, if I was her, I would think about removing that giant gray couch from the far side of the garage. But, I mean, I guess without it being there, her dogs wouldn't have anywhere comfortable to sit to keep an eye on her. After all, I'm not sure that they could make the jump about 30 inches to perch themselves on her jump box. When it comes time for cardio, CJ invested in an elliptical that she set upright in front of a TV to ensure she's always hitting her benchmark of 45 minutes a day, four days a week, with a little bit of entertainment to help her push through. Last but not least, when she's feeling a little more adventurous, CJ straps herself into her power tower multifunction workout structure that helps with chin-ups and dips. Since uploading that video in April 2020, I can only imagine how CJ's setup has improved. But alas, she hasn't posted an update to fill us in on how things have come along. That being said, there's a very real chance that CJ's current home gym isn't even in Nashville at all. During an appearance on podcast sessions with Renee Packett, CJ's husband Mira would reveal that since earning his first big-time WWE payday, he's been cashing his checks on a new piece of real estate every chance he gets. Reminiscing about his career, Mira recalled how it hit him that any money he was making as a wrestler might not necessarily sustain him for his entire life. So he wound up reading a book titled Rich Dad, Poor Dad, to learn more about personal finances. He told Renee. So I started listening to his philosophy, get out of the rap race he's saying in America, nobody's teaching you financial education. They're teaching you to go to school, get a job, do your taxes, and blah, blah, blah.  This is how they want you to slave. Putting what he read to practice, Mira and CJ would invest every pay-per-view payday, something that's generally larger than your average wrestling paycheck, into a new piece of real estate. He explained, I bought my first property cash for $85,000. I put $10,000 in to renovate it. Now it's worth a lot more. I like stuff, don't get me wrong. I have my man cave. I have my video games. I have my Maserati, whatever. But that's nothing at the end of the day. I need to buy something for the future that's going to bring me money. According to Mira, he now owns over 22 properties, though he didn't go into further detail in regards to where these units are located or if he uses them as anything more than investment properties. As it turns out, CJ will later document one of their many house hunting trips on her YouTube channel, more specifically, a home that they picked up in Los Angeles a couple of years ago in the summer of 2020. As I'm sure most of you've learned by now, a happy wife makes for a happy life, so at that time, Mira put aside his concerns for living in LA to make CJ happy. And it took nearly 14 different stops before they found themselves a brand new piece of property to call their own. Located in the Hollywood Hills, the family ultimately settled on, checked off an important must-have for Mira, a front gate so that he could drive his car through it, close the gates, and park in front of his very own house. The only problem, when CJ and Mira discovered the home, it was about $100,000 over their ideal budget. So they put in an offer to the owners that came in at $150,000 less than the asking price. Much to their surprise, their offer was accepted. Now, CJ Perry and her hubby are the proud owners of homes in both Nashville and Los Angeles. Oh, and apparently 20 other locations all around the country. Though, as Mira already hinted at, the majority of those, if not all, have been put to use as extra sources of income. And for those of you who are here to find out if CJ Perry will ever pop up alongside Mira on AEW TV while don't hold your breath. At least not anytime soon. During an interview, Mira told them when asked that exact question, you never know. CJPerry.com, her websites, ends everything it has to do with. She's doing movies, she's producing movies, so she's really, really busy. But in my mind, the Redeemer's mind, his wife is always there. So it's a no-brainer for my gorgeous wife to join my team eventually and walk through fools together. Well, until that day comes, we'll just have to continue getting our CJ Lee fix either through her Instagram page or the aforementioned CJPerry.com that serves more or less as her own personal only fans. But that's gonna bring this house tour to a close. Thanks so much for watching. And before you head out, answer me this one question. If you travel the country every day as part of your career, would you prefer to buy a home on the coast in LA or be more centrally located somewhere like Nashville? I mean, I like Nashville better than LA anyway, so I would pick that. But let me know your thoughts in the comments down below. Otherwise, like, subscribe, and turn on your notifications to make sure you never miss a tour. My name is Cara The Vampire Slayer. Follow me on Instagram to chat more and I'll see you all in another video. Bye.


are bananas the baddies. So I've tried to incorporate bananas into my diet without much success. And anytime you try a food and you react poorly, there is an underlying answer to it. Whether something simple like anti-nutrients or more complicated, you know, such as myself quitting the carnivore diet after almost eight years of following it because my liver was failing. It's difficult to figure these things out because the information is not easily available, which is why the anecdotal reaction to eating a banana is more practical.  Hey, stop eating it. Yeah, you might be able to find out that bananas have anti-nutrients, but which ones? What do they do? You know, do you have a degree in biochemistry? It's too much for the average person to understand. Upon starting my banana research and not the type of banana research that the vegan fairy boys do on a Friday night, you know, I was looking into the food banana. I came across a forum post of someone quoting Lauren Cordain who created the Paleo diet. Big deal, guys. You know, Dr. Lauren Cordain invented the diet. Anyway, he did a lot of grunt work, a lot of research on bananas, figured out what anti-nutrients, and yeah, if you wanted to look into the studies, you might be able to find these things within a few hours, but thankfully I did not have to do that today. And by the way, guys, that's how you credit someone and avoid plagiarism, but if you want to shield supplements and pretend you're smart, then obviously you can't just mention someone's name because then all you'd be doing is crediting other people without creating, I'm not gonna get into that today, but too many dirt bags online, say the least. Both the banana peels and fruit contain a wide variety of anti-nutrients, including saponins, tannins, oxalates, phytates, and cyanide. The concentration is low enough. They pose minimal health risk with the exception of the saponins. The amount of saponins in bananas was reported to be at the safe upper limit. The high saponin content has potential to increase intestinal permeability, one of the main risk factors of autoimmune diseases. Bananas also contain thalamatin-like proteins, which are known to increase cell membrane permeability and therefore increasing intestinal permeability. The TLP content of bananas is extremely high and that function of those TLPs in the bananas is to prevent fungal attacks on the fruit tree while the banana is growing. And I agree with everything he said on that for the most part, although the oxalates, the phytates, and the cyanide, he says they're not that big of a deal, but they probably are if you're eating the food every day. Bananas also contain a lectin called banalic. And I'm sure most of you have heard of lectins in various beans and grains, causing gut permeability issues. Banana lectins are no exception and have been found in high amounts in human blood when people consume bananas. In animal tissue experiments, banana lectins stimulated production of various inflammatory hormones in the metabolic system of those animals. And a normal healthy person with no leaky gut, proteins cannot leak through the intestinal barrier and cause issues. But it's clear that bananas have high enough anti-nutrients, these gut permeability-causing ones, on their own to cause issues. Just eating bananas seems like it can give you gut problems. Not only that, bananas contain protease inhibitors preventing our digestive systems from breaking down proteins. And something else unusual has been found in bananas. High concentrations of neurochemicals, dopamine and norepinephrine, which have been shown to alter the biome to a more negative bacterial profile. So far it sounds horrible because anyone who has had gut issues who understands these components is like, wait, bananas can increase gut permeability. They stop the digestion of protein. They promote negative microbes. So when you have undigested protein, that can cause issues on its own. Gut permeability, that can cause issues on its own. And then promoting negative microbes like candida, it seems like on an anti-nutrient basis, no good. It's a no-go. But that's the physical chemical breakdown. It's also worth mentioning the agrochemicals that are sprayed on bananas. If you're not going organic, oral allergy syndrome is actually a reaction to these chemicals that are being sprayed on our food.  And after all these negatives being said, I was trying to have one, two, or three bananas per meal for the past two weeks. They're calorically dense. I enjoy eating them, but I just do not feel good. Since my gut health has been getting better, I was okay on a few occasions having one or two, but I did get headaches about half the time. That's an indicator for me that it's causing gut dysbiosis issues and I'm not digesting properly. So our bananas good enough from a nutritional profile to consider eating despite all of these negative things. I just said, it's very calorically dense and to have a natural food that tastes good, that's calorically dense, doesn't usually happen. It's usually a combination of several different things, not all of those put together. Bananas do have an excellent balance of starch, sugar, and fiber. The perfect candidate for feeding our gut microbiome, making the bacteria and fungus in our stomach happy. There's a small amount of B vitamins, nothing significant. Some vitamin C, actually pretty high in vitamin A and beta carotene if you're having a few bananas per day, but most notably, excellent source of minerals, particularly potassium, magnesium, copper, manganese, molybdenum. One reason that against bananas is because that high potassium content can actually reduce gut motility because it increases the body's need for other minerals, especially magnesium. But those minerals in particular are the ones people have an issue getting on a carnivore diet. From the animal-based versus plant-based mineral perspective, bananas are an excellent template of those plant-based minerals that aren't as high in meat that occur predominantly in plant foods. And that's really the goal of eating plant foods. How can we feed our gut bacteria and consume a high mineral content while minimizing the amount of anti-nutrients and negative things? Of course, perfectly healthy, breastfed from birth, the perfect gut microbiome, probably not even watching my YouTube channel because they never have to worry about what they're eating. So what can be done in this case? There's various ways to reduce the anti-nutrient content of foods, cooking them, fermenting them, drying them out. So if you don't tolerate raw bananas, then you can cook them, stew them for long periods of time, dry them out and dehydrate them. But really, you wanna try each of those things and see how you feel, what you respond best to. And in the granola bars that we should be having soon on Frankie's syringe foods, hopefully in a week or two, bananas are gonna be the base fruit ingredient in there, but they're cooked, they're dried, heavily reduced anti-nutrient content. So this is really applying to the raw banana. And just like you can't eat raw wheat berries or you can't have raw rice, everything needs to be processed before we can really consume it from that plant-based perspective in many instances. So thank you guys for joining me. Hopefully you have learned a little something about bananas. I know some of you guys remember I was consuming the banana baby food, but they put water in that. I'm not sure the quality of the water. I had a few bad tasting batches. So even though I felt okay on the banana baby food from the supermarket, I stopped doing it. I don't recommend that. Maybe just try to make it yourself or cook it or try different preparation methods. So you guys can go to frank-defaun.com if you would like to support me further through all of my businesses. And outside of that, you can drop a like on the video. Leave a comment down below. Subscribe so that YouTube can unsubscribe you next week. And be sure to check that notification bell so they don't notify you of my videos. 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What's up everybody, Jason here for JaspysCaseBrace.com. We just sold out another Bounty Breaker guys, 2022. Panini Playbook Football. This is a eight box break picker team number four. This is the second half of the case. And actually, before I switch it, there's the teams, names and teams in the break guys. So thank you guys for buying in. That's everybody in. Last month Mojo was Jason getting the Packers. And all teams in right there guys. All right, first we've got is Garrett Wilson of 75. That's Jets going to Scott. We have a 64 out of 99. Indianapolis Colts that is going to Jerry. And then we got a 87 out of 199 hash marks. Or we need a 100 out of 199 if we wanna get the Bounties. And then we got a John Mechie. Ricky Butler Otto. 90 out of 2, 99. All right, there you go. First box done. Roger Allen, 19 out of 99. We need 24 out of 99. So that was a couple off. Christian McCaffrey, 79 out of 99. And Michael Carter, 109 out of 199. That's nine off. Getting a little closer. Jets got with Allen. We have a rookie Jersey autographs with Trey McBride, three color patch. 23 out of 25. Cardinals going to Robert Newburn. Nice one. Got a cool down. Chris Olaway, 154 out of 199. Saints. Bonajow. Triple Relic, 55 out of 99. That's a Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, and Aaron Donald for the Rams. Rams, that is Patrick Davis. LaGuerre Blanc, 46 out of 49. And then we got a Deuce, Deuce McAllister. That is nine out of 35. Two color patch there. Mid to early 2000s running back there for the Saints. And New Orleans Saints, that's going to Joe. All right guys, box four, and then we're halfway through. We got to 99, that is a letter for Nets. Bucks, that's been a David. And nice Ron Dzerorski, 24 out of 199. So we hit the 24, but it needs to be 24 out of 99. Not out of 199, so no bounty there. They're pretty close though. Nester with the Eagles. So what I want the Eagles to do in the draft. Good question. First of all, how about a Herbert? To 10. Two out of 10, Herbie. Chargers, David. And then we have a Jumbo rookie. Little patches there, Kenny Pickett. 98 out of 99. Honestly, I think they, if there's an opportunity to make a trade, like they did last year with the Saints, so the Saints can draft up and get Chris Olave, I would like for them to trade back a little bit and then just gather another first round pick, honestly. But if they're gonna draft that 10, I think it's like best player available at 10, honestly. If like Jaylen Carter, I know he's had a lot of obviously off the field issues. They're still there at 10. He's obviously such a huge talent that it could have been a first round or first overall pick, you know? So, minus a quarterback, obviously. But yeah, I mean, I would take him. I think drafting, let's say Bijan at 10 would be super, super high, but he's one of those like, one of those running backs that looks like a sure thing where he's gonna get you like four or five years of just like great yardage. But obviously drafting him as high as 10 is gonna be kind of a risk, a little reach. 74 to 75, but I think at 10, if they do draft this, get whoever's best available, honestly. You have another pick later in the round, so you can always do something with that later. Or like I said, if you could trade up, if you could trade down that number 10 pick and gather more picks, maybe a future first round or next year, I think that would be enticing for me too. Land Jack, 47 out of 99. But that's exactly how they got that extra second round pick from the Saints by trading back, Ravens with that one. Eight out of 199. Well, the Eagles don't need a quarterback, Charles, so that's the thing, and you know, drafting the running back at 10 nowadays for sure is pretty high, but that dude looks like the real deal, man. I mean, not that we need him. I mean, he's gonna do great regardless. Whoa, how about another one of one? So the other one we got that was a one of one in the last eight boxes was like a silver platinum. This one's all blacked out, so hopefully this one has a shield. But this is a one of one Isaiah Spiller for the Chargers. And yes it does, how about that? NFL Shield and autographs, so the black one of ones, I actually have a shield, just pretty nice. I have to get the sheets again. Everything, you wanna print them all out? Like literally all of them. Some of them might have an RMB, so just double check it obviously. So there you go, one of one. Nice one there for the Chargers and David. But yeah, I think the Eagles kind of already had a couple of replacements in line, which a lot of people were like, oh man, the Eagles lost so many players, what are they gonna do? But we've kind of already expected some of those players to be gone, especially like Hargraves.  So we drive the Jordan Davis for, you know? We lost a couple of our linebackers. You know, we got one of course that didn't play at all last year. Another Georgia guy, right? New Kobe Dean. He's gonna take over as one, but could use another linebacker, you know? But offensively, Cam Juergens is another guy who dropped it for the future when we lost, say, Amalu. Running backs again, you know, I do hate losing my Sanders, but I don't think the Eagles were gonna pay them $6 million that the Panthers were, so. They got a running back for like a million dollars, $2 million in like a Kenny game while Houston has a rookie deal for like less than a million. They got three different running backs.  Breeze Hall, 38 out of 49. So like I said, for the most part, if we're missing anything, it's more like a linebacker, maybe a safety, but of course like, you know, Blankenship kind of took over a little bit once, last year when CJ Garner Johnson got a little injured. So I think the Eagles are just fine. So that's all more, I'm okay with them trading back. I mean, if they wanna draft somebody, just draft us the available that helps the team now. You know? And then we got a Tyler Murray to 10, two out of 10. Part of the bound. But yeah, Luda Baker's interesting, but he's gonna get paid though, so that's the problem. Antoine Freeman, 70 out of 99. Green Bay Packers, Jason. And then we got a Romeo Dubs for the Green Bay Packers. 144 out of 2.99. All right, George Pickens 2 out of 1.99. Cooper Cup patches, 71 out of 75. Rams with that one. We have a Jalani Woods for the Colts for the Jerry. And then we have a Jersey autographs of Eric Izacama through color patch, 22 out of 25. Oh, no, I don't think so either, Logan. I've, oh, Charles saying this is not a lot of green quarterbacks, Charles. Really? I don't know about that. Definitely a lot better than last year. There's gonna be a couple of those quarterbacks starting and playing in their rookie year. Jalen Hertz, 65 out of 99. I guess I didn't really read the second half. Last one flag was fly there. Eagles, Nessar. Drake London, 46 out of 99. Allen Robinson, 11 out of 49. My God, is this another one of one? I think this is another one of one. Last one, guys. No, I actually had a 49. Xamir White kind of gave me the one of one feel, right? Three color patch and autograph for the Raidus. Ryan with that one. So there you go, folks. Nice book that was coming out of here. We did get a one of one there. And a lot of good names though. Dobbs, Lucana there. Houston McAllister, Tram McBride, John Menchie. A lot of nice autos in here too as well. We got like a nice Justin Herbert to 10. Jaworski, a little throwback there. Like Eric Blunt. What else are we on? Yeah, nice little case though. I feel like last case had a lot more bigger quarterback rookies, but overall it was still a really nice case. So I appreciate it, guys. I'll post up another case of playbook right now and you guys can start buying in for tomorrow, guys. Appreciate it.