And thank you so much to joining us for another amazing fry yay where our exclusive sponsor fundraising Academy supports each and every Friday. And we want to thank our presenting sponsors of the nonprofit show for supporting each and every episode. I believe this is 357 if I'm adding my, my, my ones onto the previous shows from this week so we have had as you've seen just a really phenomenal lineup. And we attribute our success truly to our sponsors we're so grateful to have their investment, their commitment to the sector to the shows and to the thought leaders and overall experts that we are able to bring in. So thank you for joining us Julia Patrick is here the CEO of the American nonprofit Academy. I'm Jared ransom also known as the nonprofit nerd CEO of the Raven group. And we are just so glad to have all of you joining us today for our ask and answered. If you miss any of these live or if you want to go back and see any of our previous recorded shows. You can absolutely do that so there are plenty of places where you can find it. And first of all probably from the comfort of your couch if you have a smart TV could simply say the nonprofit show and we will pull up on Roku fire TV YouTube as well and then of course on the American nonprofit Academy website and a few more places I'm sure I'm missing. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You know we have this amazing person on our team Kevin pace our executive producer, and it seems like he's always like running into my office saying, Okay, I just got us, you know, affiliated with X, Y and Z and you know new technology or a new platform or been approved or whatever and so. I thought, to be honest with you, Jared Roku was a big deal when we got that, you know, a year and a half ago. Yeah, that gets us into, you know, 30 million plus homes in North America, but the reality is, there's just so many other things and we continue to grow and ensure that with our viewers so. Hey, are you ready to see what Lily from Seattle Washington is going to ask us today. Yes, let's hear it Lily. Okay, I'm thinking of leaving the for profit business world for the nonprofit sector. Don't don't don't. Yeah, my family thinks I am nuts. What do you think is the nonprofit world a good place to work in. So, congratulations, this is a huge choice and I love the nonprofit sector. I have truly dedicated my career in the nonprofit sector. I have worked for profit I have worked in that sector as well. And in fact, as a consultant, I straddle both sectors. And it's really a lot of fun. So, you know, in my consulting world as as yours Julia, you know, we are for profit companies I have it I run an LLC, but I also run and help organizations in the 501 C3 and C6 world those are 501 that I'm really invested in. I love the nonprofit sector and and let me tell you the biggest difference that I have found between these two Lily. I live in a small town in South Carolina and I really have enjoyed the nonprofit sector for the culture of people. There seems to be this, this truly natural organic investment and concern in the people. Not only that they serve, but that works with the organizations that fit really well for me and what I was seeking I also went to a small public university because I really love, like just having that that culture of people, and being high on the list, if you will.  And I would say that that is changing and you can definitely do some due diligence to, you know, wherever you seek for this employment in the nonprofit sector, seek wisely. I think that's that's important. The other thing I'd like to bring up Lily is the work life balance. There is a lot of continuous give and service for those of us in the nonprofit sector. And it's really, you know, it's up to yourself as well as your employer to help set some healthy boundaries so just be mindful of that. I think those are the top three things that I want to mention when it comes to the nonprofit sector is the culture, culture of people. The pay gap again be be mindful of that and just take a look at what they're paying are these competitive wages, and then also be mindful of that work life balance, you know what is expected of you and your time. You know, I love that you said that and I appreciate that you were so forthright about your experience and what that looks like.  And I think what you do to create a better world is really the one of the most valuable things that you can do and I, I always think, you know, the life best lived is that life that has impact on others that they will never know. And that's one of the things about the nonprofit sector, you will do things you will make decisions that will impact people that you will never know. And that's great to me, I mean I think that's really amazing. So yeah, it will be hard, but I don't know I just think it's such an amazing life and I think that we are seeing more and more value when it comes to the employment and pay scale. But at the end of the day, in this country, it's an IRS designation. Yes, so you still are going to be doing the things that for profits do different language, different measurements. Right. But you are still really so tell your parents that. Let us know I was parents though I think it said family so I kind of took it on as as a spouse or a partner. But who knows, yes, who knows. Yeah, I mean I didn't pursue being an artist because my mom said I would be a starving artist so instead I became you know a social worker. Right. And you know what, Jared, it's really an interesting thing too because I think you at the end of the day, you need to look at your neck the next gen. And you need to say what I encourage my child to do this. Right, you know, and then I think to we need these people in our society. So I'm all about promoting young people to come in but yeah. So in the nonprofit sector, we have a I don't know the numbers but the nonprofit sector is a very robust workforce. 1111 million people every Monday morning to work for a nonprofit in this country. That's a hell of a lot of people that's a big workforce. That's a huge workforce. Yeah, so go for it Lily. Me too. Me too. Okay, let's get on to you know drum roll. Name with help business name with held. We're going to know why in just a minute and I'll be honest, I'm the one that put business name with help, because they did put their name but I was like, dude, I'm not going to put this out unto the nation's only daily show about the nonprofit sector with your business name with your business name. Okay, here it goes. We are an architectural design firm, and we have been asked by a nonprofit to work on a project. They are asking for a discount on our contract, and we are wondering what the average rate might be average rate of a discount.  This is really, I love this question, and I spent some time with this individual. First of all, we used to hear the word and it really came from law in Latin pro bono, which meant you did the work for free, you did it as a community investment. We even have legislative pro bono concepts where a certain business has to give away so many hours we see this in broadcasting and media where you literally would have to record back to the federal government or the licensing bodies. We donated so many hours of advertising your content, whatever. This concept is going away pro bono and we are doing something seeing something new called low bono. And the concept is this, that if you give away something for free. There's no sense of value. But if you tag a, and it can be modest, but if you can tag some sort of investment to that relationship, then everybody's going to perform at a higher level. Now this could be you contract with a security agency, or a janitorial company that comes into your office, a law firm and accounting office and architectural design firm. Generally, I'm going to flip this around and say, you could be looking at a low bono rate of 50% discount, 20% discount, maybe only a 10% discount, but you're going to see some sort of flexibility in there. The key is, it's defined, it has a contract, it has a start, and it has an end date. So it's not this languishing thing that ends up causing everybody hurt burn. So is there an average rate then. Well, it's really going to be for the most part, between 10 and 50%. That's really and that's a big gap. And if you look at what people are doing, a lot of times, if it's a product, that's going to have one discount and if it's a service, it's going to have another discount, right? Because for example, in a janitorial company contract, that janitorial company is having to pay their labor. It might not be as flexible, but let's go to a food service contract. Let's say maybe you have a cafeteria or you provide food service within your nonprofit.  It really kind of depends if it's a good or a service, but 10% on the low side, 50%, business is booming for companies like this. And so now is not a time for them to walk away, or now is the time for them to walk away for bigger contracts. So devil's advocate. Baby hit me. So I think I'm not a big fan of pro bono. And here's, here's the reason why, right? So I shared from our previous conversation, a question with Lily. I am a for profit company serving nonprofit. So if I offered a nonprofit discount to every client I served, I would be discounting all of my services. So I think, you know, the big point of the question is this is an architecture firm. I do know of many industry norms. For instance, when you're planning your special event, you go to, you know, the venue and you say, do you have a nonprofit discount. That is a great opportunity to take advantage of those nonprofit discounts. You might get something similar to printing, you know, and the like, but I'm channeling Mallory Erickson our previous guest right that's talking about this is a bigger concept I believe when it comes to partnership. I would talk to this architecture firm or architecture firm I would talk to the nonprofit and find out what are your corporate partnerships, what do they look like, how could we create a bigger, more fruitful engagement to serve the community. Here's what we are looking for. Here's what you are looking for. How do we create this win, win opportunity. And you might actually, you know, from that discussion, build a deeper base for sustainable giving and partnership that could go both ways right so I also and here's the devil's even more devil's advocate when it comes to the pro bono. I think it continues to perpetuate the scarcity mindset for nonprofits. Absolutely.  I mean, can you help us, please may have some more, you know, like we are doing amazing work, and we are hopefully also building revenue streams that are vibrant and really, you know, helping not only the, the, our individuals we serve for those individuals we employ. I don't mind that's that's, you know, a lot of different perspectives, but I wanted to bring all of that and put it on the table because I really do think this is a bigger conversation to talk about a partnership and to create a win win. I love what you said and I would say, taking that a step further, going back to your design firm architectural design firm. It's probably really important to sit down and say okay, how much are we going to a lot on our on our budget every year. All of our employees can get behind. And then we, we know this is for we're thinking, you know, we can only do one of these projects every three years or, you know, a certain amount of a year or whatever and they get behind that, and then make it something that is intentional and not just. Okay well they came in and they're nice people and so we'll help them out because that that's never a good way to enter into a relationship and cut the mustard. In that saying, but then cut the mustard. It's true. Well, I think it's a good discussion, low bono that is not sunny bono low bono. That's funny. Yeah, but it's true. I mean it's really something that you're, you're going to start to hear and so you could say you heard it here first on the nonprofit show. Okay, Steven from Huntsville, Alabama. Ooh, tough, tough week in that part of our nation. Oh yes. What is the average notice that C suite level staff should give when offering their resignation. I'm hearing about the great resignation, and I'm concerned that are not that our nonprofit should do some planning. Yeah. I always anticipate a month at the very minimum for a C suite is really that month transition when I serve as an interim leader, either CEO CDO development or operations. I know my clients Julia that whenever we start the, the perspective hiring process, we really need that to take about four to six months because depending on the individual that we bring on or asked to join. I understand that he she or they may also be in a similar position and required to give a month.  And not just because of that but oftentimes when there is this transition, not only is the individual want to give a month to their employer, they want to take some personal time. And also be prepared for it to take, you know, maybe even six weeks, if not eight weeks to have a little bit of a buffer and a little bit of a downtime. Wow, that is super genius advice because yeah, especially in our sector where you have people that oftentimes leave exhausted exhausted exhausted and that compassion fatigue. So it's just rolling into your organization, you know, the following Monday, not being at their best ready to take on something new. That's right. Okay, because then they also have not accrued their PTO and vacation to be able to, you know, when something comes up they're able to take that time off. So I'm seeing that trending more and more Julia, where it's the C suite executives are, you know, saying I need to give a month, and I need an additional, you know, buffer. So I would just be prepared for maybe, you know, for four to eight weeks, but really four weeks if they're leaving from one coming to the next. In terms of the great resignation with all of these people just leaving the workforce. Are you seeing that that hiring time with your interim work is now growing, or is it shortening. We're early in. I'm going to say it is growing. And, you know, some of this is it's growing. What I've seen is because individuals are being very mindful, even more mindful about where they go. As well as it is an employer employee, an employee market right now right where many of our very talented individuals can almost pick and choose where they go. So this whole negotiation that staffing boutique has helped to share with us so thank you Katie Warnick. It really is about having that ability to negotiate the best place in space for them. Okay, good. That's a really interesting observation. I know you're in the thick of this with your interim work so I appreciate you sharing that I really do that's. And you know what I love that that organization is asking the question. Absolutely. Yes, even I would definitely start planning for that. And some of how you can do that to help is to make sure you have updated standard operating procedures. That is something that that you will want the person who's leaving to make sure that they are as up to date, especially if you changed and pivoted, which we all did during this COVID pandemic. So you just want to make sure that they are leaving their SOPs where they currently are not perhaps where they were when they started the organization smart smart. Well let's go on to Lois and Marcus in Rochester, New York. And again, oh my gosh. Crazy flooding and that part of our nation. So, wow, I mean Rochester's more north but still. Okay, they write we're looking to start an endowment and are wondering if we should have a certain number of years and operation before we begin on the journey. Are you familiar with this or can you give us some guidance. You want to start. Well, I would say, definitely, you need to have some time in service, because this is a big, big navigation point. It's going to cost you some money. It's going to cost you some time and attention and management. And there are many, many people across the financial services and legal services sector that manage this. My biggest thing is you need to have a board that will support this and will be the first ones to fund the endowment. And it might be nominal. It might be significant. It might be in the state planning should be a little bit of everything. But this is not for the faint of heart. This is a big, big deal and I don't know what you think but in this might just be my age but my sense of it is that when you are an organization and you take on something like this. You need to have a lot of other things finished, because this needs to become a central theme, and not the only thing, but it needs to be something that you can champion. And that's one of the things I was going to suggest is, you know, so you are looking at starting an endowment, wondering if we should have a certain number of years in operation. Hopefully, you have at least three, perhaps, you know, more like five in, I would say, I would say that's kind of, you know, where you want to be. Otherwise, I would build up your annual campaign, make sure you have enough in reserve for your rainy day funds, you have, you know, six months in the bank. The other of like kind of bearer, you know, operating that burn rate so figure out what your burn rate is, but then also figuring out, you know, if this is where we are now, where is it we truly want to grow and how do we prepare financially for that, annually, prior to the endowment because the endowment you can take a percentage off in perpetuity to support your annual operating cost. But I would make sure that you have that groundwork laid first and foremost make sure you have those coffers those reserves of financials. And again, if you're looking to bring on any additional support, be it, you know, FTEs full time employees, even part time or contract help, right bringing in some consultants, I would make sure that that is financially covered and taking care of first, and then the endowment but I agree Julia, this is very much an undertaking and you want to make sure that the board is on board for this kind of work. I love, I love that you said that because when I first saw this question it made me think, and they didn't declare this but that they're a newer organization right same. Now, and so, I think you've got to be at minimum five to 10 years. That's how I read it to you. And it's great if you have, if you have an investor, if you have capital knocking on your door by all means that is phenomenal. But I don't, I wouldn't jump into an endowment right off, right off the start. Yeah, I agree with you, I agree with you. But wow, I think it's a great question and hopefully, you know, they're looking at something that's really really come in their way and you know with this huge transference of wealth, the largest transference of wealth in our country. Some organizations, financial organizations have estimated low 30 to 60 trillion, all the way up to $90 trillion moving into these next generations endowment and requests are going to be big deals. And so yeah, I think any organization ought to be looking at this, but it is extremely expensive and no pun intended taxing to do. You know, you have the best advice that you can get. Agreed, and also channeling Mallory Erickson from yesterday, you know, one of the things that she recommended we consider right now is gifts of stocks. And so this is something to consider with this transference of wealth. Maybe we don't have the liquid cash as, you know, as abundant as we have previously, but many individuals do have a very robust portfolio that might not be, you know, as transferable at the moment but you could think about that for your endowment. And I think that's that's worth mentioning again. Yeah, it's not just the velvet painting of Elvis anymore as I mean it's real estate, it's art collections, it's stocks and bonds. Yeah, and that's cryptocurrency like, believe it or not, and I know that we have, we have a show to keep crypto currency I forget the date of when that is but stay tuned we'll let you know. And so yeah a little bit of a little bit of all kinds of transference of wealth. Well, that's a whole nother discussion for gift policies because, as you know, that's a big, a big, big deal, I was meeting I had dinner with a client. Last night, and we were talking about an organization that turned away a million dollar gift, based on the business of where that money was that wealth was generated for this particular family. And I think it's a great field that it aligned with what their work was. And our discussion was, well, do you take the money and say we can do great things with it, or do you say, you know, no this doesn't fit with our values, it was a very interesting conversation. But anyway, hey, Jared ransom, a great week. Hello friend, and thank you to fundraising Academy. Absolutely. It's been a wonderful week and we are so extremely grateful that you have joined us for our episodes. Julia Patrick CEO of the American nonprofit Academy. I'm Jared ransom, also known as your nonprofit nerd. I did a workshop earlier this week for the Community Foundation of Southern Arizona and it was virtual and we had attendees across the nation in fact because it was open to anyone, and it was about self care how to avoid burnout. So I am going to practice what I preach during this week and I hope that you and the rest of all of you watching will also take some downtime of this weekend to recharge it is Labor Day holiday weekend. So there's a lot to be thankful and grateful for. But yes, I hope that we can all start back on Tuesday, fresh. It's amazing to think that we don't have a show on Monday because it is Labor Day. And I'm always freaked out because it's like the start of the last big push for the year. That's right. I told you now that all things are pumpkin spice related it is time to hit the pavement. 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Remember a hallmark card when you carry enough to send the very best. Here's the Orpheus Bonnet, starring Anne Blythe, chosen by one of the world's best known authors. They distinguish novelists. James Hilton, tonight on our hallmark playhouse we find ourselves on the threshold of Easter, one of the great seasons of the year, symbolical of springtime, of hope, and of rebirth. In these days especially, it's good to remember that tradition of ours which gives us each year a message of encouragement and inspiration. And tonight we tell a story called the Arbutus Bonnet by Margaret E. Sangster, an Easter story with an Easter message. And we're especially privileged to welcome one of Hollywood's most charming and youthful stars, an actress whose own winsomeness is in tune with the season of the year, Miss Anne Blythe. And now a word about hallmark cards from Frank Goss before we begin the first act of the Arbutus Bonnet. At Easter, as on every important event in the lives of your friends and loved ones, there is a hallmark card to say just what you want to say, the way you want to say it. And the hallmark on the back will carry an extra meaning for Easter Day, for it says you cared enough to send the very best. Now hallmark playhouse presenting Margaret E. Sangster's The Arbutus Bonnet, starring Miss Anne Blythe. It's in 1903. I can see that the story of my Arbutus Bonnet is the story of the springtime that every girl waits for. The spring that comes riding over the hilltops with banners flying. The spring that somehow heralds the coming of Prince Charming. I've been by that window daydreaming for almost two hours. Eleanor. Sorry, Father, what did you say? I said, never mind. It wasn't of any particular importance. As a matter of fact, all day I've been thinking of the day I met your mother. Oh, was it spring? Yes, it was spring. Although it was snowing and the paper said it was the coldest day of the winter. But when I looked into her eyes, it was spring. Oh, everyone's love story should be just like yours and mother's. Almost everyone's is, Eleanor. You know, I think I have a very romantic little girl. Oh, it's four o'clock. I have to deliver a basket of eggs. Did I tell you I had a new customer? No. A woman stopped by this morning and said she was the housekeeper in the Grant House up on the hill. She gave me a weekly order for eggs. The Grant House? Why, the Grants haven't been in the village for at least ten years. Mr. Grant is a big financier. Well, I'd better get up there or I'll never get back by dinnertime.  I wish she could see you. Don't you think she does, Father? Right with youth and color. And all of life was just around the corner. I ran as hard as I could to the most exciting moment of my life. Spring beat loudly in my enchanted threshold. The days that followed were like music, heard but once. But remember, it's her. That's the church where my father preaches. Over there's the drug store and, oh, the dry-good store. Oh, and that's the post office. I've never been in a really small town before. I've never been in a city. Someday I'll show you the city. Turnabout is only fair play, you know. It's funny. When my father told me they were going to have me come down here to recoup from that bout with pneumonia, I had a fit. I wonder how wonderful the town could be. Come on. I want to show you the high town. Who fried the chicken? I did. I'm glad you thought of coming up here on top of the hill for the picnic. It's a wonderful spot. Oh, yes. I've always loved it. What are those flowers over there? Our beauties. My mother wore them in her hair when she was married. I always thought I'd have a cap made of them when I got married. And our beauties bonnet. Of course, bonnets aren't very fashionable right now, but maybe by the time I get married they will be, and then... When I get married, I... I hope I get to marry a girl wearing an our beauties bonnet. Oh, I hope you do. The end of summer, doesn't it seem like yesterday to you that you knocked at the front door? It was spring. Now it's autumn. We'd better start walking toward the deports. Almost nine. Don't want to miss your train. Well, will you write to me at college? Of course I will. Eleanor, I... I hope you'll come back. Eleanor, did... Bob wrote that he was going abroad with his family for the summer. I put my hair up that summer and taught a Sunday school class. Father was right. A great deal happened. Not tonight. I'm preparing the Sunday school lesson for my class. Eleanor, I've spoken to your father and... Well, I don't intend to be put off any longer. I've prepared a speech and I'd very much appreciate it if you'd hear me out. My farm's doing well. I could make you a good living, Eleanor. And I've always... James, I'm not in love with you. You're surely not still thinking about that grandfather. He's been gone... How long? Almost three years. Well... His parents took him to Europe. He's studying there. You don't think he'll come back to a town like this? Whether or not Bob Grant returns is not the issue. The issue is whether I'm in love with you. And I'm sorry, James, but I'm not. You indignant young men, may they? I don't know why it is that suddenly everyone wants to get married. Eleanor, I don't want you to be so under the spell of something that happened in the past. Suppose he never comes back. He said he'd come back. And there you have amazing faith. I'm your daughter. Down to the library. Oh, I'll see if your books came on the evening train. I mean, why didn't you tell me you were back from your... Came right down here. Oh, I've got a lot to tell you. Oh, I can't believe you're really here. Eleanor, do you know what I'm going to do? No. No, I've... I'm going to Panama to help build the Panama Canal. My father is pretty close to Teddy Roosevelt. He fixed it for me. I leave next week. Wonderful, Bob. I'm sure I wish you every success. I don't know how long we're going to be there, but that can't be too long. And when I come back, I ought to have made some sort of name for myself as an engineer. Of course you will. And I'll wait forever. It's necessary to wait that long. Eleanor, I'm recognizing you at once. It's pretty dark out here, and my glasses seem to be getting older. Reverend, I want to ask you for your daughter's hand in marriage. Well, don't pretend you ought to come inside and put down those bags and then ask me. I'd like to tell you my plans right away, Reverend. You see, I have to leave on the train tomorrow night. Tomorrow? Well, come in and tell me all... There were so many things I wanted to tell you that I was in love with you before I ever met you. And how I've been in love with you ever since. I wanted to tell you that if you hadn't come back, there wouldn't have been anyone. Here is my promise to love you and to cherish you. I had his ring on my finger, and his name we would have together. Master of our native tongue, Kim, who said, Give me the right word and I will move the world. Or it can move the world. Can double our joys, cement our friendship, solidify our love. And no one appreciates the importance of the right word so well as the makers of hallmark cards. With rare discernment, they know there is no magic like the magic of words to reach the hearts of others. So you'll always find a hallmark card that truly expresses your own feelings whatever the occasion. And every hallmark card will speak also of your own good taste by its perfection in every detail of color and design. That's why if you ask any group of friends what name they think of in greeting cards when they want to send the very best, they quickly answer hallmark cards. Easter is one of the important occasions when we want to remember friends and loved ones. And for every friend, all those you care for, you will find hallmark Easter cards that say what you want to say, the way you want to say it. Cards with flowers bright as spring. Cards that express the deep spirit who will joy a beaster. Clever cards to enchant the children and cards for them to send.  And now back to James Hilton and the second act of the Arbutus Bonnet, starring Anne Blythe. The manner prescribed for young ladies in those early days of the 20th century. She would remember those days of waiting as long as she lived. I kept house for my father. Taught my Sunday school classes. Acted as a bridesmaid now and then. And read Bob's letters over. The jungle is on all sides of us now. But I turn my eyes from the jungle to the walls of our cottage. And there I see the sketches of what is to come. A great highway of water cutting through the jungle to survey excavation conditions. I will never be able to tell you how I miss you. I was just going down to see if the mail had come in. Sit down, Eleanor. Eleanor, I've had it through. What are you trying to tell me? He went in and out searching parties. They weren't even able to find a trace of them. Well, my child... He's all right, Father. If something had happened to him, I'd know it. I'd know it, I'd tell you, I'd know it. He's brought on by small wounds, an empty letterbox, an empty depot, an empty road. Hope... One shed tears as time passes and the endless empty days stretch on ahead endlessly. But at last it dies and all hope ends. You must get some sleep. I can't sleep. What's happened to you? What's wrong? He isn't coming back. You know that, don't you? You've always known that he's never coming back. We try to teach our children faith so that they will have a staff upon which to lean when sorrow and travail comes. We aren't put on this earth solely for our own happiness. We're put here to serve God's purpose and it's not for us to question them. I'm sorry, Father. But those are only words to me now. And words won't fill a heart or fill a life or give it meaning.  There's nothing. I'm sure if you would... No, Father, I have a great deal to do. I thought I might straighten things up in the attic. They're in an awful mess up there. On Easter Sunday. Why not? It's just like any other day when you come right down to it. Very well. This letter doing in with these old blouses. Reverend John Cartley Chaplain. It looks like Mother's handwriting. My dearest John. It is Mother's handwriting. My dearest John. The hour is late and I am alone. But I feel almost as though a miracle happened to me today and I wanted to write you. These are troubled times. You are far from me a chaplain on the battlefield in another part of the world. Often of late, I have wakened in the night cold with terror. Thinking I heard the sound of battle. Wondering if I heard them because they were close to you. And then fear would pull me down. Down into such an abyss of loneliness and despair that I began to think that something had happened and you were lost to me. But today we were getting ready for the Easter services at the church and I was looking for the proper lesson for my Sunday school class when I found some ancient and beloved words that healed my spirit and brought me peace. These words which you know so well. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection and the life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Sometimes, my darling, in these black and troubled hours, we need to hear those words again to reassure and sustain ourselves. I feel as though my own spirit has been resurrected because for a while faith deserted me and I walked as one dead among the living. I called on Dr. Alexander on my way home and he told me I was going to have a child. And then I knew more clearly than ever how hope follows hopelessness and resurrection follows despair. You must destroy this letter after you have read it for it would never do for anyone to think of a minister's wife losing her faith, even momentarily. I do not know what God has planned for us but I am content now to leave it in his hands and know that whatever comes from the hand of God must be good. Whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall... From the house grabbing a hat as I left, I ran as fast as I could to the top of the hill and I gathered the obvius to make an obvius bonnet. I pinned them to the hat as I ran back down the hill toward the church bells, toward my father, toward my faith in life and love. And God, my father was just finishing his sermon as I entered the church. Whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believers thou this... I was looking for a drill in an art-beauty's bonnet. Bob. Somehow I was sure this was where I would find her on Easter Sunday. Oh, Bob. I just got off the train here. I came straight to the church. Whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Darling, I waited so long without word from you. We came down with yellow fever. Some natives found us and took us to their village. I was completely out of commission for months. I was afraid you were never coming back. I told you I'd be back. Eleanor, what brought you to the church? Did you know Bob would be here? No. No, I found a letter that Mother had written you. A letter? Your Mother had written me? Yes. It was a letter she wrote you while you were away. She told you she had almost lost faith. That was the letter she wrote telling me that you were coming. Yes. She asked me to destroy the letter. Yes, I saw that. Eleanor, I did destroy that letter. Destroy it. Just as she asked me to. I never brought it back from the battle field. You destroyed it. She wrote whosoever liveth and believeth in me.  Once more it was the spring that somehow heralds the coming of Prince Charming. And the story of my obvius bonnet ended as we had dreamed it would. In the old village church with my father saying the beloved ancient words. And there is nothing more to tell for. Just as we dreamed we would. We lived happily ever after. Next Sunday is Easter. I hope you've already made your selections of Hallmark Easter cards. But if not, there is still time to find a card that will be just right for everyone you want to remember. There are cards for those dear to you that convey thoughts often felt but too seldom expressed. There are cards that will bring a warm glow to all your friends near or far. I recall that one of the most pleasant experiences we had last year was receiving an Easter card from a couple we hadn't seen in years and whose address we had lost. The card brought back many fond memories. It made me appreciate more than ever what a perfect occasion Easter is for remembering others. So if you haven't already shopped for your Easter cards, I hope you'll make a list now and select them tomorrow at the fine store where you buy your Hallmark cards. And as always, you'll want to look for the Hallmark on the back of each card to say you cared enough to send the very best. Here again is James Hilton. We're here for a very moving performance. We were delighted to have you with us again on the Hallmark Playhouse. And I was delighted to be here, Mr. Hilton. But it's always a pleasure to appear on Hallmark Playhouse. Your stories are always about such wonderful people. You sound like one of our admirers. I certainly am. And I'm enthusiastic about Hallmark cards too. And you know, I've already thought of several more people I want to buy Hallmark Easter cards for tomorrow. And now, Mr. Hilton, I understand that next week you will have one of your own stories on the Hallmark Playhouse. Yes, it's called a passionata. And I must admit I'm a little bit partial to it because it's based on a theme of music. But it's also a romantic story. Who really? Who then is your star? Charles Boyer. And we're very happy indeed about it. Oh, I certainly won't miss it. Good. Our Hallmark Playhouse is every Thursday. Our director producer is Bill Gay. Our music is composed and conducted by Lynn Murray, and our script tonight was adapted by Jean Holloway. Until next Thursday then, this is James Hilton saying, goodnight. We've been selected to give you expert and friendly service. Remember Hallmark cards when you carry enough to send the very best. Anne Blythe appeared through the courtesy of Universal International Pictures, who will soon release Ma and Paul Kettle Go to Town, starring Marjorie Mayne and Percy Kilbride. This is Frank Goss saying goodnight to you all until next week, at the same time when Hallmark Playhouse returns to present James Hilton's a passionata, starring Charles Boyer. And the week following, Rosalind Russell and my sister Eileen. And the week after that, Alice McKay as they came to a river on the Hallmark Playhouse. This is CES, the Gloomy Broadcasting.


Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Board of Selections meeting for Monday, May 11th. First item on the agenda is a report on the Sims fund starting with Mr. Chapter Lane. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, provided the board a hard copy tonight, a report that would be two-town meeting from the Board of Selections and the Town Treasurer and Collector. This would be to comply with the special act that created the Sims Urban Renewal Fund, which required an annual report of the activities of the fund. Two-town meeting. What this report has is the activities of the past four fiscal years, as well as a statement and an update on the fund policy that was adopted by the Board of Selections. I believe at the end of calendar year 2014 in accordance with a recommendation from our outside independent auditors. So, barring any objections from the Board, this will be provided to the town meeting members. The Treasurer and Collector has reviewed it and has signed off on it. So, I'd be happy to answer any questions that the Board might have. Any questions from the Board? Mr. Dunn. Thank you, Mr. Greeley. Under FY13, prior property tax revenue, looking at the table, what is that? That would have been not attributable to what was actually on the FY13 tax bill, most likely, I think, 12 or maybe even the 11 tax bill, but collected in FY13. Oh, right, right. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Because that would have been one of those changing hands and all that good stuff. Okay. Mr. Kerro. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chaplin, I know I had sent a question along to you regarding the FY 2015 property tax revenue and why it appears here is so much less than 2014, whether or not that's just a partial collection. Yeah, so what you see happening here is, predominantly in FY13 and 2014, there was both the debt service associated with the property, as well as legal expenses associated with the project development. And the other line here really being costs associated with the designated town representative, that service as a liaison between the town residents and managing, you know, working with the contractors or the developers. So there was more than just the debt service in there, and that's why we're putting a larger portion of the property tax revenue into the fund, starting in FY15 and beyond. There's really only the cost of the debt service and the $5,000 legal reserve that the Board voted as part of their fund policy. So the total taxes on the Sims property, both the housing development and the assisted living site, are over $900,000, but we only will move into this fund the amount necessary to cover both the debt service and then that legal reserve. So you see an amount less than what is actually being collected and the rest just accrues to the general fund as any other taxes would. Great. Thank you very much. Mr. Dunn, move approval. Second. Further discussion? Anybody here wishing to speak on this matter? All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Those opposed. Okay, item number two, discussion and approval outside seating and cafe recommendations, Carol Kowalski. High director of planning and development. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm Carol Kowalski, director of planning and community development. Request came via the Board's staff to provide assistance and recommendations.  I'm recommending that you try to get 48 inches of free passageway but no less than 36 because that's ADA. 36 is not a lot. 48 is much more comfortable for anyone of any ability. But sometimes you just won't be able to get it and I don't see any reason not to allow it if you as long as you have the 36 inches. And there is no ADA requirement that the access way be straight. It can be under. For the most part I think that in Arlington you'll find that a straight path will be afforded whether you're in the center of the heights of the east or the Broadway. I'm also recommending that you have the flexibility to locate seating either close to the building facade or away from the building or both if it makes sense. But I think it should be based on some standards and just to outline those standards quickly. One is just provided they provide the least obstruction for pedestrian access to get around the seating area and to get into the storefronts. The second standard would be that the location shouldn't extend beyond the outer edges of the building facade. In some instances I think you will have to allow some latitude and I'm saying to consider up to 10 feet of latitude because there will be some obstructions that will prevent the location of the seating right in front. I'm also saying that you might want to consider having a 256 square feet general maximum but that you consider increasing that provided that you're going to allow to always have that 36 inches around the square footage and that you make this determination based on a scaled dimensioned plan that shows all the obstructions. I'm also recommending that any additional seating that always be considered in relation to other codes whether it's health code, building code, zoning code. That may affect how many seats, how many additional seats in addition to the interior seats could be allowed. I also urge the board to increase the amount of insurance coverage to a million dollars and have the town name as named as additionally insured. I have to defer to town council on this but 25,000 seems especially low if especially if it's an establishment that's serving alcohol. One million dollars is more typical from what I've seen from other communities. I'm also asking you to consider not issuing the permit until you have that insurance certificate in hand. You get the insurance certificate and they get the permit. And finally I'm suggesting that these be renewed on a calendar year basis. I don't think it's advisable because so many things change the business could turn over. It shouldn't run with the land so to speak. I think there should be an opportunity, an annual opportunity that perhaps coincides with the renewal of the common victuallers licenses. The word would go out to the businesses who are interested in this and that they would be given a deadline to get your application in and you can process them so that they can anticipate hitting the ground running in the spring. So those are just the that's the essence of the recommendations. I've also given you some recommendations on the two applications that are before you right now that you'll be considering soon common ground and medrona tree. What we're recommending is just a slight difference between what they proposed. We're in fact recommending that the suggested layout medrona tree is presenting to you. That seems fine provided that about eight feet can be left between the common ground boundary and the granite planter so that there'll be room for that 36 inches of passageway and for medrona tree table. And that's portrayed on page three of the memo. And that that's the essence of the recommendations for the standards and for those two applications. But I'd be happy to try to answer any questions. So thank you for that. But the other thing we wanted was to understand is there any construction redesign or anything of the Broadway Plaza in the works. Yes, there is. But that's going to be I anticipate a multi year process. I don't anticipate that there would be a lot of new construction right in the Plaza area where these two restaurants are proposing to have seating. I don't expect that there would be any change this year. There is some there will be an effort begun to get input from the business owners, the landlords, the public on improvements, changes, design circulation in the in Broadway Plaza. There are already some very good ideas about allocating the curbside area in a different way for anyone who uses them. I don't think anyone's talking about changing general parking. But the short answer is it's going to be I think a long time before, you know, a couple years before we have a publicly vetted design that would have any construction changes. Okay. Mr. Ben. Thank you, Mr. Grillian. Thank you, Carol. This is great. I really like the idea of both doing it on a calendar year basis. And I also am grateful for your research on the insurance issue that you brought up here. Could you talk a little bit about the natural path of travel? Do you think that maybe I guess whenever I'm looking at guidelines like this, I like to think that perhaps maybe more stricter. More stricter guidelines could be better off just so they can't really be toyed around with too much. So can you talk a little bit about how you got to that point? In Broadway Plaza, one of the, I think the most obvious path of pedestrian travel is the brick pattern that's actually, you can see there's a different pattern in the bond of the brick. And that's where people kind of naturally want to walk to go into the stores to run their errands. Then there's what you might call the play area that's beyond, and that's in a different brick pattern. And that's all up for grabs, really. It's a wonderful area now that the, in my opinion, now that the fountain has been removed. We enjoyed that defunct fountain for decades. And I think it's time now to do something different in the plaza. So I think you have the ability with these guidelines, I believe, to kind of flex that space every year. And even within a year, this allows a very significant remaining space.  That space can be programmed. We have some great cultural groups in Arlington, and they could, you could crowdsource some programming for Broadway Plaza with the space that remains. So I think that you have an ability to, with these guidelines, I believe, convey to the two businesses an area that they can depend upon using, but still not have boxed yourself out of other uses in the plaza. This would also, I'm not answering your question directly, and I apologize. This should also allow a full passageway around the common ground seating area and around Madrona Tree, except for the granite curb where the plaza ends in the parking begins. Thank you, Nye. That kind of the use of public space did come to mind, particularly looking at the pictures, because how kind of the angle it does look like it takes up a bit more space, I think, than it might in a... I think the orange one, especially, is dramatic. And I really didn't, I couldn't envision the kind of the space for all the activities that you just ran through, but that does make sense now. Yeah, if you look at page four, you're looking at the same view, but there's a lot of space left over behind where the view of the camera person is that is still available for street performers and other programming. Thank you very much. Welcome. Thank you very much, and thank you for your work on this. I have a couple of questions, some of which might actually be through you, Mr. Chair, appropriately addressed to Council. Firstly, I appreciate that this is all presented in the context of a couple of specific applications that we anticipate. I am looking, though, at the excerpt of our regulations that are included here, and if I'm reading this correctly, it looks like if we were to pursue the conditions as recommended, which would allow flexibility between 36 and 48 inches of passage, we would have to amend our regulations if I'm reading this correctly, because our regulations actually don't have that flexibility. It says a minimum of four feet of unobstructed passage. Would I be correct in that interpretation? In the first paragraph, end of the first paragraph on page two, the first paragraph of the regulation excerpt. Right. That's what's in your current sidewalk cafe regulations. So it sounds like we would have to update our regulations in order to... That's why I included this in here. I wanted you to see where it meshes and where it doesn't. Right now it says you have to have the four feet. So you would want to have the flexibility to reduce that. Great. Thank you. The second question I have has to do with the insurance portion. As I read the memo, the recommendation is that the insurance coverage be increased for establishments where alcohol is served. Is that correct? I think at a minimum... Because I'm reading one thing, and I think I heard... Right. I think you'd want that generally, but there are some small establishments that could be prohibitive, and out of my league I must confess I'm not an underwriter, I don't know that much about insurance, but I usually, when I've seen a coverage, it seems like the limit on liability is a million. 25,000 isn't a lot, particularly if there's an injury. I'd be happy to look into it further to see if I'm right that this is common, but absolutely for businesses that serve alcohol, I think that's important. Yeah, because I'm reading here, I see that the town is indemnified, but if I'm not mistaken, we're capped at $100,000 per incident? That we would be liable for if we weren't indemnified. So that can be a little bit of a context-specific question, but under the Mass Torture Claims Act, generally speaking, the claims of general liability, something like a slip and fall, the town is capped at $100,000 for liability. I can imagine that there might be other specific circumstances and nuances where someone might at least try to assert other claims. It's not that common that folks try to get around the caps on tort claims generally. If this would be properly considered part of the public way, the caps might even be lower than that. But I want to say that I think it's a fair point that we might want to have different levels of insurance coverage depending on the context where you have alcohol service that obviously presents a different type of risk and liability. And the other thing I should notice is that from a liability perspective, one thing is the total liability that the town might face and other is trying to make sure that you've got enough coverage to potentially make somebody whole as a matter of public policy. It's the other consideration that I think the board would have to balance. Thank you very much. I'd like to follow up a bit on that one. I'm on an insurance question. So Town Council, insurance carried inside the building does not apply to outside seating? So one of the things that would have to be examined in any given policy is whether or not that policy was designed to include. And I would assume that it wouldn't be and I would definitely assume that it wouldn't add the town of Arlington as an additional and short. I think that's the really critical piece for me is that because this is going on town property, the town has to be added as an additional and short. And there might be... We might survey or further survey, I guess, because Ms. Kowalski's already done some of this. What other cities and towns do with similar sized establishments and things like that in terms of the actual amount of coverage they want them to carry? But again, the critical piece to me is that we have to make sure that Arlington's added as an additional and short. And I have to say I concur with Ms. Kowalski that we should have an insurance certificate in hand because otherwise there could be a gap in coverage. Mr. Dunn. I very much appreciate it. I think that one of the things I really think we should implement is as we get these applications, the scale drawing, I think that... So whatever through you or through the board administrator, we should ask applicants to submit that. Mr. Chapter-Lin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I simply wanted to add one small caveat to Ms. Kowalski's comments about construction. Although I second her remarks about the long-term construction, we will fairly soon be doing a little bit of work to remove and replace some of the new bricks that got unsettled over the winter. So there'll be a small little repair there. I didn't want anybody to think that... We said no construction and then see it dug up a week from now. Okay. Mr. Mahan. I apologize for being late. I told my husband seven. I didn't have the heart at six o'clock to say 6.45. I know right now we're just discussing what the outdoor seating would look like. So I guess I would just put a question on the table because this is public property, probably recognizing it may just be my thoughts and they don't go anywhere else. But my question would be, since this is public property, is there any way if a majority of the board or all of the board agreed that we could dictate or instruct how alcohol would be served? What question am I asking? Is there something that we could say that if you're on public property and the area is coordinated off appropriately, can we say that you can order Bud Light and a bottle, but it has to be served to you in a glass? What I'm thinking is public property, people drinking out of beer bottles. Now this isn't what we're discussing right now, so I guess I just would put that on the table, only where it's on LinkedIn Center.  There's very few places that they actually do go. And again, it's public property. There's about one or two other establishments that have outside. So I don't know if that's really necessarily something the planning director could speak to. I don't, if you can, that's great. And or town council, or maybe if I just, I put it out there and we discuss that in the future. That was my only thing. Thank you. I don't have a comment on that except to say that I see the virtue behind it. And it's, I recall at one point when the town was just beginning to allow alcohol under very specific restricted circumstances. It seems to me, and I have to defer to town council, of course, but it seems to me that if you had that ability then, I don't see why you wouldn't, in my opinion, have that ability to do the same with outdoor alcohol policy. But I have to say it's not my realm. It's town council. Mr. Burn. Thank you very much. Excuse me. One further question. I'm looking at the changes from the planning department to the actual applications on, I'm on page three here. It talks about extending the common ground outside seating into CBS's front. Is that something, did you have a discussion with CBS on that or? No, we didn't. The landlord of the CBS building is the same landlord as common ground, but you raise a good point. It would be courteous to bring that up with the manager of CBS. I'd be interested in hearing their thoughts on that. Thank you. I'd be happy to do that. Okay. So this technically is not a public hearing, but we've asked the two licensees that we're going to put those items on the agenda next week. But I will allow anybody here wishing to ask questions or anything on this. I saw Mr. Leone. I didn't know whether or not. Not in this issue. Okay. A motion from someone then on this? Yeah, Mr. Hero. Yeah. I move to approve the recommendations of the planning director and to request the town council draft appropriate amendments to our regulations to implement them. Okay. Is there a second? Second. I'm personally uncomfortable approving it based on the insurance question, but the rest of it is fine with me. I'm fine with amending my motion to say pending further research on the insurance. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Dunge? I just, the reason it was easy for me to say yes is because it's a draft and we get another crack at it. The way I interpret it. I don't know if that's the way Mr. Hero meant it, but that's the way I interpreted it. Okay. Agreed. All right. So this is basically receded the draft then, and the idea is that it be a next week's agenda for approval, Marine. Okay. All right. All those in favor, please stand by by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed. All right. Item number three, friends of the Allington council on aging, Arthur. Oh, lots of people. This is our annual time of year when we generally go before you and ask for your support for our 5k race. And we also like to let you know some of the activities we've been involved in. So in a moment or two, I'll start to bring forth and introduce a few other people because I'm retiring from the board this year, and I wanted to let you know that there's going to be a new president and I'll introduce him. And I also wanted to give Susan Karp the opportunity to kind of note some of the programs that she likes, that we have been funding and helping her with and everything like that. And one other thing I wanted to just mention briefly before I turn everything over to everyone else is in June, we are going to have a little event and it's going to be a family fun filled barbecue type event with a lot of a lot of games and prizes and ice cream and everything else. And it's for the benefit of the friends and it's being hosted by Brightview assisted living for us. So that will keep your eye out. That will be coming in June and it will be a fun event for everyone. I'd like to note our new president who's Ken Greenly and if you've ever been at the race, you've seen this gentleman all over the place. And this is Lois Shannon, our corporate clerk. Vice president is Bob McGinnis and you all know Susan Karp, our executive director of the Council on Aging. So a few words about this year's race. Before you go, retirement is a special word for volunteer. There will be another slot open on the board now for some good, energetic, dynamic, entrepreneurial individual that really likes to build organizations. So that's just a plug. I see Mr. Currow, Mr. Byrne, Mr. Chapter Lane have attended and thank you for your patronage to the friends, running the Friends 5K. We appreciate that. We've had great success with the growing registration base, volunteer base. We had nearly 400 runners at last year. About 120 volunteers, plus or minus, and then spectators and a lot of our Lincoln business that supported the race over the years. And ART has founded the organization since 2008, has done a great job in growing it. And we've grown our funding and resource base to be able to help fund some of the programs that Susan's going to talk about in a few minutes. This year we've proposed a date for September 27th, 10 a.m. on a Sunday morning. We always do it on Sunday. Usually it's early in the month, but the town day, I believe, is the 13th, which is a Saturday. So typically that's around the weekend. We didn't want to be trying to do two things in the same weekend. So we put it on the 27th, and we hope that everybody can come out and help support the race. The other thing is, if you get a chance, I know some of you have participated in the race, you've been to our website. It's friendsarlingtoncoa.org. You'll see all the photos from last year's race. And also a place to sign up for the registration is going to begin in May. We'll also have volunteers who can start registering now to sign up for the race. And our other events that we do, we have a holiday stocking program with the COA where several seniors receive, about 70-plus seniors receive a stocking filled with goodies. And we have another plan, an event as Hart said, I believe it's May or June. June. June, with Brightview. So, and we want to thank the town of Rollington and everybody's help in the community, the individuals, the businesses. So Susan will talk about some of the programs again. Thank you, Ken. It goes without saying that a huge thank you to Art in his term of presidency. I have been with Arlington for three years now, so he's been my primary contact with the friends of Arlington Council on Aging. I think the unique part about the friends and the relationship with the Council on Aging is that their work within the community, they reach out to high school students to have them involved in our programs. You know, it's the, I think it was the track team or the cross-country team that was cheering a lot of the people as they were running by through their stocking stuffer program where they reach out to seniors and help us reach out to seniors by using police to help deliver it. Having other students involved, having seniors involved, it really just is an organization that reaches out to all of the communities. Not the supportive friends. The Arlington Council on Aging would not be able to do many of the programs. We do a lot of the social programs and through those funds, it underwrites the meal and entertainment to a very low cost, so it really opens the door to a broad range of individuals. They've been very supportive in helping us start our LGBT programming. We've just been successful in finishing our first eight-week exercise program that we run on Thursday nights with our LGBT seniors. Some of the things that go on behind the scenes are some of the emergency funds that the friends help us with. So if there's a senior in need that other social services don't meet, we're able to reach out to the friends to try to supplement where other areas don't. Transportation is a huge issue. We've recently, you know, certainly this winter had a number of seniors that had some urgent medical care that just even through our own family of services within transportation couldn't meet. So we were able to use some of those funds and through our contracted relationship with the taxi company through Dial-A-Ride, which is funded through CDBG, we were able to get a senior not only to the doctor but also into the hospital. So, you know, there are many things that go on behind the scenes. We work as partners in the aging services. Certainly, you know, working with Lois and Bob, and now the new President Ken, we look forward to continuing on with the different things and serving the needs of the seniors in Arlington. Very appreciative of the selectman's support and town manager's support of the efforts of the friends, and we continue on and continue to identify the unmet needs and certainly fulfill the ones that we do. So I want to thank you very much. Thank you. Other questions? You know, two of you didn't give speeches yet. Lois. Lois and I were born next door to one another on Farmer Road, and she's way too young to be working with the seniors, I understand. Okay. Arthur, on behalf of a very grateful town, thank you for your excellence as President in all that you've done. It's been fun. And Mr. Greenlee, my name is more pronounced as Greenlee than it is Greeley. And I give it the other way. People throw an N in there all the time. Questions, comments from the board? Yeah, Mr. Kerro. Mr. Chair, I move approval of the request for approval of the Running with Friends Road Race September 27th. Second. I'll second. And I'll just note that the part that's on the minute man has to be approved by the town manager. I'm commenting on him in a moment, and he knows why I'm doing it. Oh, sorry, were you done? Yes, thank you. I'm happy to support this year, but I don't know if my heartbreak hill isn't removed from the running race. I don't know if I'll be so generous. Probably you're going to say it's all downhill. No, thank you. I'm pretty happy you run there. This is a lot of fun, so thank you guys do great work. And girls, sorry. Mr. Chapter Lane, do you have any announcements, challenges, anything that you want to say at this point in time, sir? Please do tell us. Just mention. That will be my challenge this year. All right. All those in favor of the motion by Mr. Kuro, seconded by Mr. Dunn, please signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed. Thank you all very much for your great work. Thank you. Item number four, presentation, Hidden Treasures, May 16th and 17th, Rowland-Chaput. Rowley isn't involved with enough information. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. It's always a pleasure to see you. I haven't been back to talk to you about Hidden Treasures for a while and I thought I would sort of bring you up to date because the event is this coming weekend. And I will announce at a town meeting. As you know, Arlington is one of 40-yard cities and towns in Middlesex County and six little towns in Southern New Hampshire that make it a freedoms-way heritage area. There are freedoms-way heritage areas around the whole country. Essex County on the North Shore, for example, is another freedoms-way heritage area. Folks out in Devons, which is where the headquarters is for us, decided about eight months ago it would be kind of nice to come up with something called Hidden Treasures and they got the word out and 25 of the cities and towns are going to be showing this weekend, everybody on the same weekend, what they think is a Hidden Treasure. And of course, as I'm concerned, all Hidden Treasure is the Schwann Mill.  They're beautiful.  It's Saturday and Sunday from noon to three, and Ed Gordon, who of course is the executive director up there, and is very knowledgeable in the German influence here in the 19th and 20th century in the greater Boston area and what has been happening at the Mill. Those antique machines are incredible. They really are. So he's going to be fun to listen to. So hoping you could all make it. Open invitation. No charge. Thank you. Thank you. No motion is necessary in that, I guess. But thank you, Rowley, and best of luck. So Barbara, did you get me the other if you need me to smile right now? I'll say okay. Consent agenda. Minutes of the meeting of April 13. Requests for the seventh annual Hardee School PTO Walkathon. Requests for contract drain layers license. Requests, three requests for contractor drain layer licenses. Vote for sale of wine at the farmer's market. And the request for the annual Greek festival. First step is we'll ask whether anybody here who wishes to speak on any of these and I'm going to go backwards and first introduce the most reverend Dr. Nicholas Castanas from the St. Athanas, the great church to talk about the Greek festival coming up. Thank you very much. Mr. Distinguished Chairman of the Selectman and Honorable Membership and the Glorious Support Council. Good evening, it's a blessing to be standing before you along with other members of our parish and parish council and to present to you for one more year our annual event of the Greek festival which will take place on the 6th and 7th of June. And we've added an evening Thursday 5 to 9 for fellowship and gyros and salad and the famous Lukumavis and we invite you to join us and ask for your blessing in order to move forward with this beautiful event because we do have wine and beer and we do sell wine and beer in the course of the Selectman we are always very careful and cautious about how we handle all those things. We have a weighty support staff and a weighty delegation of security people made up of the town's finest of course our police staff and security staff so we ask for your permission your guidance and certainly your vote of confidence and your support of the community. Thank you. So on this one item it's four one-day beer and wine licenses we change it make it a one-way designation on Appleton Place for those four days and the street closing actin place closed during the festival right? Thank you. Second. Nice to see you. I know we started out. I'm out on town day and I know how big events can be including the festival. I just wanted to take advantage of the opportunity and I do live nearby. I live on Howard Street as you know which is probably three or four streets over and last year there was sort of an anomaly in terms of the event and I do know we have a resident on Feziden Road and I've left a couple at the church office just something left over from last year if we could maybe I can call you tomorrow the next day and we could just talk individually about that and then the only other thing is some of the residents who live on my street in Burton Road in Feziden again it was an anomaly last year and I'm sure you're aware of it. Two of the nights when it was kind of ending for whatever reason I don't know if it was a certain group or crowd that came in they didn't leave very quietly and they didn't leave without loitering a lot as well as I wanted to bring to your attention it didn't happen to me but I went to some other houses I don't know if St. Athanasius gave these out or somebody else was but there were stickers that I guess were passed out at the Greek Festival and some of them were on homes you could take them off a couple of them were on cars it may not even be anything that you did with the church but if you could just be aware of that if you keep an eye open for that because they were all over the neighborhood and I don't mean to be a downer on this it's just that in the resident on Feziden Road I'd really like to talk to you about that because that was just one massive compilation for that household right there. Thank you so much every observation is welcome and it's important for us to be good and wonderful neighbors and care in every small and great way I'm unaware of the stickers thank you for pointing it out to us and we'll work on it certainly it might have been from the children's booth maybe they had stickers they were bumper stickers they were bumper stickers on the large side like this big if you can just as people are leaving just bottle in the hand or a bumper sticker if somebody could just speak to them we'll do our best to control and in every way shape and form thank you and we apologize if we offended or hurt or inconvenienced anyone Mr. Byrne thank you I always enjoy this event living on Appleton Street now I was told by a few neighbors that I'd be in big trouble if I did not approve this tonight so I do have a question though extending it to Thursday night what led to that decision sure it's actually been in the making for a number of years we just haven't pulled the trigger so to speak on it and this year there was a feeling of the parish council to test the waters because there's a huge community effort internal and external to want to feed those that really want to start kind of early we actually hear from the beginning of the week that we're looking forward to it we can smell the food let us taste some early let us come in and be a part of it God is still great in spite of me and in spite of all of us certainly so the deal is that there was feeling among parish council members especially to do something on a limited basis and that's why it's the menu is limited in order to get things going and help us out certainly with the biggest fundraiser of our parish for the year with God's blessings of course your support your approval and good weather on bended knees for weeks begging for the good Lord to guide us and those wins to come in that will be on the warmer side thank you very much and less rainy of course okay so on the motion by Mrs. Mahan and seconded by Mr. Cureau anybody else here wishing to speak on this for any reason all those in favor please signify by saying aye best of luck father Nick thank you very much many blessings a peaceful rest of the evening please go home earlier than some of us too as God so blesses thank you Diane look forward to hearing from you thank you father Nick is anybody here wishing to speak on any of these other items under the consent agenda approval 5 6 7 8 9 and 10 is there a second second all those in favor please signify by saying aye aye all those opposed Mr. Ray on the hearty Walkathon I do just want to note that Corey has a recommendation that they are they use town public safety officials on that walk and not the volunteers as they do in their application okay excuse me all right did you get that did we just make that well it was in the recommendation have we I guess I feel like we haven't necessarily followed that recommendation in the past am I incorrect when if I may I know when the athletic director of the high school yeah past two years has had her walk has been asked to and has utilized the police department for their walk run it's called something trot I'm going to get in a lot of trouble for not remembering it so I guess I just don't have I thought I guess I thought that we hadn't used maybe Marie can never had a police officer there the years that they've been doing it they come around they come out the front door the how do you walk on Blake Street has always given them we call them the Hauses to cross off right at the Conor Richie and they were in there but I realize there's more traffic so I don't think they'd object to it but they'd have to raise funds to pay for a police officer but we've never judged them in the past Mr. Greeley I don't know how you want to move forward but I would rather I would rather not include the recommendation that was that requirement I don't know if you want a separate did you actually make the motion no I actually just thought that we would that was included already so I guess I'm fine with that and we'll monitor it going forward okay all right so all those in favor please say no five I say nine sorry for that confusion probably we should have a conversation with Corey I didn't realize he put that in or I would have had they've always hopefully nothing will happen this year but they've always had plenty of volunteers and it's just for that one hour just to come out and go around and that's it okay item number 12 an appointment to the Human Rights Commission Yawa Degbo was I am I in the neighborhood at all please come forward hello how should I have said your name Yawa Degboy Degboy so thank you very much would you tell us a little bit about yourself sure so my name is Yawa Degboy as you know by now and I'm currently a volunteer at ACMI and I actually met some of you last time when we had the hearing to support ACMI and I've been working with this organization for a couple of years now volunteering and specifically on issue related to human rights recently we actually cover the Nepal Vigil which was here last week in front of Town Hall and we reached out to local Nepali people Nepali residents to really support them in their thought to recover from other earthquakes so that's what I've been doing and covering different subject related to that and I'm really motivated and excited about this appointment on the Human Rights Commission to do some similar work but really impact the life of our residents and make sure that everyone has an equal and fair treatment as well thank you very much for your willingness to share Mr. Kuro thank you very much I want to thank you very much for stepping up and applying for this I'm a former Human Rights Commissioner myself and it's a great group of folks over there I especially appreciate your experience as a youth and education coordinator because one of the most important links I think is between the Human Rights Commission and the school department especially now there have been a lot of discussions with the school department around this so thank you very much for stepping up also your communications experience too with ACMI will be great assets I'm sure of the commission I'm sure they'll appreciate any approval second further discussion all those in favor of the motion by Mrs. Mahan please signify by saying aye aye any opposed congratulations and thank you Commissioner Degbui thank you so much bye bye licenses and permits this is under 13 approval of the draft liquor license suspension decisions council Doug Hein comments questions yeah Mr. Dunn approval second further discussion all those in favor please signify by saying aye aye all those opposed nice work Mr. Hein thank you traffic rules and orders presentation Recycling Center Charlotte the director of public works asked me to come before you because I'm aware of the opening of a recycling center in the public works yard it will be open ten additional Saturdays a year we already have two very successful extensive recycling opportunities for the community with community collection day so this will extend it to once a month for the next year starting in June and we'll experiment with how the public responds to being able to recycle items that they can't recycle at the curb but they are certainly recyclable materials it's just we need to make a little bit more effort to allow the public and provide the opportunity for the public to do that recycling so this will be a one year trial we need to schedule it for an entire year in order to have it count towards a program run by the state that encourages recycling in communities and by offering this recycling center for this year we're eligible to receive a payment by the state in the form of a recycling dividend it's called and these funds come to us because we reach a minimum level of activity in recycling and the monies come from the waste energy credit program through the Global Warming Solutions Act same thing like a renewable energy credit this is a waste energy credit it's money from the state they're looking to give away and we're happy to take it it's really a great time right now for Arlington to have a recycling center because Community Collection Day happened on Saturday and it was a very popular event and actually caused a lot of traffic problems and I would say problems excitement, traffic excitement and we would like to reduce the stress on that event because it is so popular so instead of holding 12 of those events during the year which would be overkill at this point we'll start by offering some additional Saturday mornings so one more detail it will be one Saturday a month for the 10 additional months that we don't already offer Community Collection Day and it will be three hours at Public Works so we're excited for the public to come out and let us know how they like it so if I may thanks for your excellent work as always with our mandatory recycling wouldn't we already qualify for the state award the 18,000 really because it's not this is a particular program that encourages other kinds of recycling the fact that we have mandatory recycling in Arlington is fabulous but this is above and beyond what's available curbside and it's the effort of the state this is my interpretation this is not fact this is my interpretation from going to workshops and trainings that the state needs to continue to think about how to reduce waste or divert waste from municipal solid waste in order to meet the state goals for solid waste reduction and they need to do that by encouraging communities to find alternative ways to put places to put that material and sometimes that has a cost involved right now single stream recycling that Arlington participates in is the standard and that's a service that's available and bid for by contractors to come and collect that material but other materials are more expensive for example we actually have to pay to recycle Styrofoam but it's completely recyclable we also coming down the road in the near future will be mattress recycling and carpet recycling but in order for the those processes to get developed for the infrastructure to be there for the technology to develop there's a cost and so there's some payment going out and this is a recognition by the state that communities need some help paying for that sometimes so they'll give us some money to continue to fold into increasing our recycling and helping build that infrastructure and the feedback systems that will make more recycling possible thank you I'm still amazed that we don't produce enough time right now yes miss mahan now do you anticipate will this be sort of the same event collection as what happened last week or is this on a much smaller scale like last week had say six offerings this is just going to have the one because I'm just thinking of the traffic making grow street one way and literally as you know all the excitement that line was queued all the way up to by school or court on mass ad which I was thrilled I was very nosy trying to figure out what the heck that was about but you don't do you anticipate or do you have a plan a backup plan or something that if that all of a sudden emerges this is much more limited event and we encourage the public not to line up for this event like that this is I think what the public doesn't know is what's available all the time that public works is open so this is a good opportunity for me to let the public know that we collect electronic waste every time that all hours of the day that we're open so that's something people don't have to wait for there are fabulous collection boxes up and down mass av that are operated by planet aid and there's a goodwill collection trailer and stop and shop is open seven days a week with a staffed person those are places to drop textiles and books this this information is available on the town's website so it's the the addition of these Saturday hours helps residents who really don't aren't available during business hours to come to public works because of their work schedules perhaps and we'll start small with just a few of the items and it will be a chance also since I'll be the one staffing it at least the most first year to have another chance to interact with the public and answer their very specific recycle questions and continue to build you know that body of information for the public so they know what's available to them so I guess I would leave with you Mr. Rademacher as well as the town manager just for the first couple of times in cases confusion that people are just sort of aware that if there is sort of a mini version of last weekend and the other time we do it during the year that maybe a couple of people sort of understand by and then once people I'm what I'm anticipating is maybe people might think it's the same event as we had last Saturday so I'm just assuming that you've had conversations also with the recycling people and Mr. Rademacher and I'll just leave it to the town manager do you understand the vein I'm going in to be very specific that this is not a new community collection day and in fact as Charlotte had mentioned this is to take pressure off the community collection days so that we don't experience as much volume as we did on the community collection days right but as long as people are kind of aware at least for the first go or two just in case something pops up and you have to get you know sector four out there for half hour or something okay motion approval second all those in favor please say the five I say nine all those opposed thank you Charlotte thank you 15 letter of support the preservation grant for the just Jefferson Carter house Mr. chapter lady thank you Mr. Chairman this is simply a letter of support asking for the board to authorize you as chairman to sign for a grant that planning and community development through the ARB will be submitting to the state Massachusetts historical commission for the already programmed capital improvements to the Jefferson Carter house so basically we already have funds in the capital budget that would take the place of the required match if we were to successfully get this grant having the support of the select would be a nice addition to the grant submission so with the board's approval we ask the chairman to sign a letter of support that was attached to the agenda. Second. All those opposed. No business. Mr. A couple quick things provided the board a memo to me from the fire chief in regards to the response to last week last week's very tragic fire but also highlighting some of the real impressive and incredible efforts by our town employees, town volunteers and just a number of resources from agencies throughout the region so I wanted to add some information to that. Secondly. Received notification from Massport. I know the board has paid a lot of attention to the community advisory committee and the track of landing and takeoff from runway 33L. So I don't know if you recall there was some question of when the CAC was reauthorized that Arlington was left out. I believe that and has added Arlington to the CAC so we need to officially appoint our designee. So it seems as though the appointment is vested in me and they want someone with experience in one of the following disciplines, airport operations, environmental affairs, labor relations, public health or port operations. So we have our current designee, Frank Siano. Sitting here tonight don't know if he has experience in any of those things. Certainly if Mr. Siano is qualified and still interested I think I will give him the first shot at it given his experience serving on it but we will see how that shakes out. And then finally very quickly I was shocked I offered to provide to a student at Stratton elementary school town manager for a day at their stratton through their stratton auction like I did last year. I had to do that for a day. I absolutely have to step up my game for that student. 275. And the second bid was 260 so they asked me if I would give it to two kids and I said yes I think it's a nice thing for the PTO. So can I come in twice and talk about gay salary? It's going to be a real good day. That's all I have. Thank you Mr. Byron. We have been meeting with the parking implementation government committee and it's really been a great group of individuals working on this. We had our second meeting last week. Last Wednesday and I'm really starting to see some progress made talking about how I'm learning more about parking lots and meters than I ever knew in my life. We have been deciding how individuals will be able to put the money in. There will be no cash, coins or credit card only. We have been deciding between whether to put in a license plate or paper receipts and we're going to start out with paper receipts. They're all going to be solar powered which is pretty cool and it's just been a great team effort. One of the issues we've been trying to tackle lately is a loading zone and it's appropriate space for it which is also not something I was anticipating going into it but it's been a great collaborative effort of everyone involved and it's been a lot of fun and we're going to keep meeting and drilling away with this but that's where we are now and we're moving in so we're transitioning into starting to talk about the actual meters along the streets now so I'll keep everyone up to date. Thank you. I just want for anybody watching at home and I know colleagues and I are and everyone else is aware as a advocate that MuGar's developer Oak Tree Development has booked the Hardy School Thursday May 21st starting promptly at 7pm I know there are plans for people to get there at 6.15pm if you want to get a seat I anticipate that ACMI will also be there covering it recording it, not live but just to take it down and so this will be we really don't have anything concrete or not so concrete so it'll basically be the first we're hearing about what MuGar's developer Gwen Noyes on behalf of Oak Tree proposing and I'll leave it at that My son graduates that night otherwise I would be there, sorry Mr. Curell Just one thing real quickly I was a little late to town meeting last week because I was up at the middle school at Alice training this is something that our police department is working in conjunction with the school department it's a new approach to students which takes a more direct approach in case there is an intruder in our schools Inspector Porcello we know well led the training they are running these with all of the students in town in a very active way and very appreciative it was a fantastic information session and I appreciate our police for their work on that nothing the only new business I have is a motion for this board that no NFL official will ever be allowed within the town of Arlington for their unfair treatment of the New England Patriots is there a motion to adjourn I'd like to make a motion that we adjourn but reconvene a town meeting and stay in open session solely for the purposes of any necessary publicly posted votes we need to take also coincides with the commencement of town meeting adjourning thank you is there a second second all those in favor please signify by saying aye the next meeting of the board of selectmen will be a week from tonight May 7 p.m.