If God can do it for John Smith, he can do it for you. Let me say it one more time, and I want it to get down in your heart. If God can do it for John Smith, he can do it for you.  I'm telling you he's here today. He's here today. If God can do it for John Smith, he can do it for you. I want that to get down in your heart today. God is here in a powerful way. You can feel his presence. And I believe that God has come to meet many of you who need a miracle. You're facing an impossible situation. What happens when you get that call and life turns upside down?  What happens when we get that call and life turns upside down? Do you fall apart in fear or rise up in faith? Let me ask you again. Do you fall apart in fear or do you rise up in faith? And the decision you make in a split second could determine how God's gonna work. I believe that if Joyce Smith would have walked into that room after her son had been underwater for 15 minutes and dead for an hour and eight minutes, if she would have walked in and she would have said, goodbye, we'd be telling a completely different story. But instead, this mama bear walked into the room and she cried out to the Holy Spirit.  And at that moment, every apparatus in the room came back on. What's dead in your life today? What area are you looking for a resurrection? Because we still serve a God who resurrects.  And God is looking for men and women who will walk in and not say goodbye but say, Holy Spirit, bring my son back to life.   That's the kind of God that we serve. You guys have incredible pastors here, pastors. Thank you so much for your hospitality. I love to see what God is doing here. It's so amazing. And we're so honored to be a part of your services today and really share. You know, this is an incredible story of God doing a modern day miracle. Raising a boy from the dead. But listen, this story is not about John. It's not about me. It's about a God who can still do the impossible. It's about a God that can take a boy after an hour and eight minutes and bring him back to life. It's about you and I positioning ourself for God to use in moments like this. In every miracle that we read about in the New Testament, there's always a human that God chooses to partner with and be that conduit. And my question is, when you walk into a room and you see a dead boy, what are you gonna do? What are you doing in your situation right now? One of the things that people ask us all the time is, did John see heaven? What was it like when he was asleep? And we tell people all the time, we actually prayed that John wouldn't see anything because it was so traumatic. And he didn't, he saw nothing. But it was at that moment where God dropped up my heart. He said, this story enjoys too. This story is not just about John. If he would have seen heaven, that would have just been about him. He didn't because God's purpose for this story was that everybody that came in contact with it would have their own experience with God. The people that need miracles, the people that need God to show up, the people that need God to turn situations around. And I'm telling you friends, friends here on Zoom and online and everyone that's listening, there are times that only God can fix what we're looking to do. There's times that only God can show up and do what we need him to do. And that's exactly what he did at that moment. I know many of you are in need of a miracle. And what the Lord dropped on my heart is I was praying for this service today. Is that question, what are you desperate for? Desperation moves the hand of God. What are you desperate for? So many times when we get desperate, we run and we try everything and God is the last place that we stop. I've heard even people say, well, I've tried everything. I guess all I have left to do is pray. No, how about we start there? Let's start there. Let's start there.  Listen, I wanna tell you something about WebMD. Every situation has the same circumstances. So just go to God instead. When you get that report that maybe cancer is there things just turn upside down. And listen, we're all one call away, right? And what we do in that split second changes everything. Whether it be healing or miracle in your finances or miracle in your families, God sent me to tell you that He loves you and He hears you. You're not forgotten. It might be taking a little bit of time, but God loves you. Don't give up and don't give in. Some of you, you've been holding on for a long time.  In scripture, we read about sudden lease. We read about those moments where God suddenly shows up. We read about those moments where people are holding on and they're crying out to God. And listen, there's a lot of suffering sometimes that goes on. But I wanna submit, we give up way too soon. Don't give up before God shows up. Stick in there and find out what you've been fighting for because God's gonna show it to you. God intervened for John just like He's gonna intervene for you. He loves you so much. I want you to know, and I know this church knows this, but God is still in the miracle, in the healing business and the deliverance business today. No matter what we see around the world, sometimes we wonder, is life upside down? It might be, but we serve a right side God. My prayer is that the church in America will begin to see the impossible become possible again. That we'll look to God and that we'll hold on to what He wants to do. And I wanna share a few thoughts with you. And I'm gonna be pretty quick today. It's gonna be pretty simple. It's just a simple thought. We've spent a lot of time digging into scripture and really figuring out what to do when life turns upside down. Listen, when you're facing a boy in a room that the doctors don't even know what to do, there's no handbook on what to do. And there are times in this story where we had to just cry out to God and say, God, what's next? What's the next strategy? What do you want us to do? And every moment God would give us strategy. He would cause us to stand and really hold on and see God show up. But I wanna tell you something that first night, Joyce and I walked out of the room after we'd been told that 99%, there was a 99% chance that John was not gonna make it in the morning. Every organ was in catastrophic failure. That was after God raised him from the dead. They were getting ready to do transplant. His pH levels, no one could live. Everything was going wrong. Those are those moments where you have to hold on until God finishes the miracle. Those are those moments where you have to believe in faith and stand forward and say, God, listen, there might be 99% chance that he's going down, but there's still a 1% chance and that 1% with you is all we need. The doctors said, we don't know what to do. We've come to our end. How many of you know when doctors say they don't know what else to do, there's nothing else they can do? That's where God steps in and there's miracles that happen. But we can't fall apart in fear. We can't just give up. I wanna ask you, when crisis comes into your life, what's your go-to? What happens? Is it to fall apart in fear or is it to rise up in faith? And how do we rise up in faith? But what's your go-to? How you respond in that moment of crisis? What, I think how we respond is so important. If you allow despair and unbelief and worry and anxiety to go on in your life in moments like this, that's the outcome you're gonna have. But I wanna challenge you, stand up in faith. Don't let worry and fear, you know, the greatest virus we have going on in America today is not COVID, it's fear. And God did not call us to live in fear. So when that fear starts to rise up, that's where you have to step out and say, God, I'm rising up in faith and that fear is getting put away. Because I'm holding on to your promise as God. I'm holding on to what you're saying, not what anybody else is saying. Listen, when Jesus was met with unbelief in scripture, it literally shut down his ability to do miracles in his city. Matthew 13, 58. And so he did only a few miracles there because of their unbelief. For healing and a miracle to happen, God partners with us. Every time you see it in the New Testament, God was partnering with people. And John 14, 14 would come alive. Yes, ask me for anything in my name. And I will do it. That's the word that we have. God says, I will do it. I will do it. You know, for Joyce, God was preparing her months in advance. She had done a Bible study. And in that Bible study every day, she said, I believe God. I believe God is who he says he is. I believe God can do what he says he can do. And I'm believing God. What's God preparing you for? In those moments, you have to really watch that and say, God, okay, what are you preparing me for? The other thing about a miracle is there's no equation to see a miracle in your life. There's not an A plus B equal C because then we would trust the equation instead of trusting God. So in those moments where things seem to be going sideways and you might be in the middle of a storm, don't give up. God has a plan. He has the best plan. Positioning ourselves for a miracle means that we take the principles we find in Scripture and we hold onto them. The promises that God gives us. The disciples face a situation where a storm had come up. They were getting ready to cross the sea, the sea of Galilee. And if you know anything about the sea of Galilee, it's a very shallow sea with mountains around it and the wind would come down and there would be 20 to 30 foot waves all of a sudden. Many of you may have heard this story before, but I think it's fascinating. We're gonna read it together in Luke 8, 22 through 25. One day, he and the disciples got in a boat. Let's cross the lake, he said, and off they went. Now remember, they had an assignment on the other side of the lake. That assignment was to set the gatorine boy free who had been so demonically oppressed that he lived in chains.  That's when things turn upside down. If the enemy is messing with you, no, you're on the right track. If he's not, then you have to wonder if you're going in the same direction. They got in the boat and the storm came up. It was smooth sailing and Jesus fell asleep. A terrific storm came up and suddenly they were on the lake, water poured in and they were about to capsize. This is what's so interesting. They had a moment where they fell apart in fear. They woke Jesus and they said, master, master, we're going to drown. You know what, I find fascinating about this is most of the disciples were fishermen and they had been through storms like this before.  It can knock you, knock you apart from Jesus. They said, we're going to drown. Get into his feet. He told the wind, silence and the waves quiet down because you see, here's the thing. In the middle of a storm, we find Jesus sleeping. He's not afraid of your storm. He said, quiet down and they did it. The lake became smooth as glass. Then he said to his disciples, why can't you trust me? Jesus asked us that same question today. In the middle of the storm, why can't you trust me? Why can't you trust me? I would not want to be the one that has to answer that to Jesus. Why can't you trust me? They were in absolute awe, staggering and stammering, who is this anyway? He calls out to the winds and the sea and they do what he tells them. Here's what the disciples forgot. The disciples forgot that Jesus was still in their boat. Friends, Jesus is in our boat today. Do not forget that we serve a God who's still in our boat. Sometimes it might look like he's sleeping. Sometimes it might look like we say, God, where are you in all of this?  He's still right there with you, no matter what the situation seems like. If you're facing a 14 year old boy who has tubes coming out of his body and the doctor said that he's not gonna make it overnight, Jesus is still in the boat with us. He never leaves us. There's a couple of keys I wanna remind you. First of all, you can have peace in the middle of the storm. If you're in the middle of a storm right now, that peace that Jesus gives us, a peace that passes all understanding, peace that passes what we can see, what we feel, what we know. He gives us a peace. Remember, Jesus was still in the boat. That's why we can have peace. The disciples panic, Jesus slept through the situation. In life we're gonna face storms. Peace does not come from our surroundings that comes from him alone. Which means peace breaks off all fear, all worry and anxiety. Listen, we live in a world today where that's acceptable and I'm telling you, fear, worry and anxiety is from the enemy. And it's set to get you off track. That's where it comes from. Be on guard. Key number two is words matter. Listen, the power of life and death is in our words. What you are speaking over your life right now is what you will reap. We live in a world where words are not that important. The power of life and death is in our words. If you notice, Jesus spoke to the storm. He didn't sit there and get all worried and try to, no, he spoke to the storm. Jesus hardwired, God hardwired this into the world that we live in because when he created the heavens and the earth, what did he do? He spoke them into existence. And I wanna tell you what you're sewing in your words now could possibly be what you reap in the next season of your life. And I'm talking about everything that comes out of your mouth. That's one thing Joyce did. She would not let anyone in that room who was gonna speak death. The power of life and death. Stop looking at your checkbook and say, oh, we're not gonna have enough. Stop looking at your job. Oh, I just hate this place. Start speaking, stop looking at your family and say you're going down. It's time to start speaking life over every aspect of your life. Every word matters. And guess what? Things may not to start to come into line right away, but you keep speaking life and it will. The power of life and death is in the tongue. Key number three, you have to trust him. Trust him. In Matthew 9.29, Jesus says, become what you believe. What if Jesus is saying that to you today? Become what you believe. What do you believe? Become what you believe you have to trust him. Key number four is don't focus on the outcome. So many times we say, God, I'll pray if you do it my way. We try to control the ending. We try to control what Jesus is doing in our lives. Listen, there were people that asked us, Pastor Jason, would you continue to pray for John if you knew he was gonna die? And the answer would be yes. Joyce and I tell people all the time, we prayed for more people that have died than lived and resurrection is not on our resume. But guess what? When we say God has a purpose, when it appears like Jesus is sleeping through the storm and God answers you differently than you expected, I've heard people who said I prayed for a loved one and they died and that must mean that Jesus doesn't heal, that is not true. Because the Bible tells us that as they walked across the throne into heaven, they were given a new body. See, the greatest miracle of all is salvation.   Lazarus died. Listen, news flash, no one gets out of here alive.  So many people I've talked to say, well I'm bad at God, that God would take my loved one. Who took your loved one? Because who brought death and sin and sickness into the world? It was the enemy. So stop letting the enemy point a finger at God and say God's not good because God's right there with you. I always say this, if the enemy wants to mess with me, I'm never gonna believe that God's not good. I'm gonna take 100 more people to heaven with me every time he does. That's how we get him back. About nine months after this story happened with John, I got another call. They had a call from a dad, I'm gonna wrap up here. I got a call from a dad who said, my 12-year-old daughter is being life-flighted from Branson, Missouri to St. Louis. She had the flu and then she had a stroke. And they just go, Lord, okay, this is gonna be another John. Like this is gonna be right on, yet we're right there, we know how to pray, we know how to believe.  I walked into this room and I said, God, we need another miracle. We need you to raise this girl up. And then dad said, yeah, I haven't been serving the Lord since I was 18. He was now 40. And I told him, I said, we're gonna see another miracle. God's gonna raise this girl up. The next day I came back and I saw this dad on his knees at the hospital bed and he looked at me and he said, pastor, I've given my life back to Jesus this morning. And I thought to myself in the middle of all this, the love of Jesus comes through and touches this dad. And then he looked at his daughter and he said, I told God today that he would be a much better father than I could ever be and I'm okay if he takes you. Said that to his daughter. And I said, no, that's not what's gonna happen today. We're gonna stand, we're gonna believe in faith. Like this is what's gonna happen. And about an hour later, her numbers dropped. And an hour after that, she died. And I walked out of that room and I said, God, I don't understand. Remember, a miracle is not an equation. And he said, watch what I'm gonna do here. And I always have trusted God. I've always known that when God says something, you can trust him. I said, okay, God, I'm gonna watch what happens here. About two weeks later, I went down to Branson, Missouri and I did her funeral. There were 1,200 middle schoolers in the room. I think we had about 30 saved. I mean, it was incredible. But what I saw is this dad was over here. He got up on stage and he started to talk to the kids about how good God was. And afterwards, I met with the children's pastor and she said, Pastor Jason, do you know what happened here today? I go, well, we had a funeral and God moved. He goes, no, she goes, you don't understand. Every Wednesday night, his 12-year-old daughter would come down to the altar and pray, God, whatever it takes to bring my dad to you, do it. I still remember that moment. And I said, okay, God, I trust you. And that man will be an eternity because his 12-year-old daughter, whatever it takes, God, so don't get mad at God at the outcome. Because I promise you, God is working. God works all things together for good, not all things are good. Hey, thanks for watching this video. If you enjoyed this content and this was a blessing to you, would you help us and hit thumbs up so that it could help more people to discover this video? It cost you nothing, but it can go a long way to help with the algorithm. As well as if you're not subscribed to our channel, hit subscribe, click on the bell so that you can do your mind each time that we upload videos. Thank you so much for being a part of this community. If you're interested in learning more about Hungry Gen, our internship, our conferences, deliverance, and so many other things, go to HungryGen.com for more information. And as always, remember, better is not good enough, the best is yet to come.


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move to open the regular select board meeting and starting with the minutes from the March 13th meeting which I think it I've read them over they look fine and accurate yep they look good to me too so me too all in favor hi all right okay and then we already did that so the we have some vacant appointments but maybe we'll save that out till after we move through the guests we have in the house Dean and Janice I think you're here to talk about the about the emergency shelter or skate space or both I'm here for balls but yeah there's a one sheet there with what I want to talk to you about the clerks have put a message on the answering machine so if there's a emergency people that call the town office can get directed to either Leslie or me or select board I talked to Tyga Christie who's the Southern Regional Coordinator for Department of Public Safety Emergency Management she said all of the towns that have shelters in the southern half of the state none of them go through the select board they just if the shelter leaders decide to open a shelter you open it and then you call a select board and then the select board gets a hold of DPS and they tell 211 in case people call 211 so I just wanted to have that bit of a policy changed and she also said that it really needs to be written into the town emergency plan and I I think there's something Michaela and I put something in there this last time around about the shelter but I'm not exactly sure how it's worded so then there's Leslie and I came up with level one level two shelters so level one is if a resident has emergent needs such as a home fire flood or extended power outage saying cold weather less than 30 no no backup heat or no power more than 24 hours or if there's families with infants that don't have water and don't have heat they need shelter faster usually than older folks so that being like a level one shelter opening and then level two would be if there's an extended period and there's a power outage we would have a warning shelter open first and then if there's a need for overnight stay and I thought if it's a small number of people we could use this room because there's a generator now people could come and charge their devices and whatever they have to do get water or something but if they need overnight we can go down to school and schools closing they said no to Suzuki this summer because they're replacing the heating system apparently so I checked with the principal Lindy she said if there's a need for a shelter we can still get in there and the power is not going to be off and it's still going to be usable I don't know what kind of heat they're installing or what's going on down there but she said we could access it for a shelter if we need it I think they're putting in a pellet boiler yeah yeah and just as a kind of on this side I called 211 I tried to call 211 I have EC fiber up on the hill and I couldn't get through with numerous tries so I called you see Fiverr and they said oh you have to they changed the state says because they have the suicide hotline it's three digits you can't only dial though that three double digit number if you want to call 211 you have to do it only from a cell phone it does not work from a landline and I said so when the power is out and people need to do 211 and they don't have a cell phone or we don't have cell service then what and they just said well this woman Chris Tiger Christie from DPS said oh yeah nobody get a hold of anybody right so I'm still working on that interesting now we do have a new emergency guide to Larry Pleasant right I know yeah sorry he's got to go through a lot of training yeah yeah and I also talked with Rebecca O'Berry at Gifford she's the VP over there and we long ago Vic and I had come up with an MOU with the Gifford if we want to use the clinic space for some reason an emergency but that had never been renewed so I updated it and renewed it with her and they signed it so I think I gave you a copy of that didn't I Julie they put in the book yeah so what's the term on that one year two years it's a I've told her I'd get back for a next year so okay we'll just keep going on a one-year base okay okay okay that's my spiel okay if we do the level one level two and I decide Leslie and I decide when it makes sense to me I mean the less less hands that you have to go through an emergency the better well if we have a real true emergency you're gonna be busy yeah you know you know so Leslie and I can figure it out of course we'll call you and say we're gonna open a shelter or whatever but I think we should just be able to make a decision and call the volunteers and get moving on it yeah okay well for that great so is that when it is yeah we need to put that in writing is that it an official policy change a policy yeah we should probably look at the what it says in there now yeah and see what we need to add to make that happen make that an official yeah that'd be great if you could write up a draft of that yeah all right Dean let's see where do I begin I did that one go in front of the select Ford really in September asking for some legal help with the possible easement of property line from Martha Slater to skate space and I've had discussions with Dune regarding lawyers to use I did reach out to both cricket and this Ebenezer pundersen I sent an email I think it was four o'clock today that you probably all haven't read but it's skimming it I kind of I got the feeling that after talking with Martha over the course of the winter an easement would be adequate for this and not a boundary change for the use of that was like the opposite of what my conversation with Martha was I thought it would be cleaner and more clear to do the minor lot line adjustment so bottom line because I did talk to Martha this afternoon after I sent that email and I shared it with her as well because I want everybody on the same page but bottom line she does not want to incur any cost right and so it doesn't matter how it's resolved to me that did the number that we got from Ebenezer is you know 220 an hour and he's got a letter of intent in that what I sent you I can read it if you want but yeah okay you know he thinks it's going to be somewhere between fifteen hundred and twenty two hundred dollars to do this so I'm requesting that that go forward to basically get this easement and you when I talked we could even or I guess we have to clarify whether it's the easement or a boundary line adjustment the Martha has something to contribute yeah I mean when I gave the land to the town 2030 however many years ago for the initial thing it was because Katie Doherty was in my son Peter's class and because I just wanted to do something that I could do to help and I had no idea until just recently of course that there was a problem with the way it had been surveyed or whatever till cricket picked that up so when I was talking to Dean today I mean I don't want to cost the the I didn't know he mentioned something about that lawyer thought I might have to hire a lawyer and everything I don't really have extra money for things like that and I don't really see why it has to be hard like that all I want I had been asked am I willing to sign to you know an easement or whatever to let it be where it is you know and that's fine with me I don't I don't have a problem with it you know I I'm happy to do whatever makes is is the easiest for the town and the cheapest because I want skate space to to continue to you know be there and they're working on fixing it up and making it even better so okay does this make any sense I'm sorry I just was just trying to say that I just was I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make it as simple and as cheap as possible I can read Ebenezer's email it clarifies it and basically it's it's lawyer ease they basically want they he wants to talk he's the town lawyer and then he needs somebody else to talk to in a lawyer fashion and in reality if somehow he could write up an easement she would sign it and we'd be done with it that's kind of what I see the simplest version of this I don't see why it should take $1,500 or $2,500 but the other thing is the easement she continues to own the property it's really you know I'm gonna read it because it will clarify the this was in response to cricket from the town's perspective fee simple ownership would be better so that will take the form sounds like the town Martha first need to agree on whether this will take the form of an easement or a fee simple transfer from the town's perspective fee simple ownership would be better but if Martha prefers perpetual easement that can work I would say that for Martha a fee simple transfer makes liability issues cleaner for her so he's looking out for yeah as well for the select board meeting tonight just let them know that my fee is 220 an hour and I don't need a retainer my guess would be that from soup the nuts whether this is an easement or a fee simple transfer my bill end up between 1,500 and 2,500 this would include permit compliance town zoning permit and state wastewater exemption title update drafting signing recording necessary transfer docs hopefully Martha will have her own attorney and this will certainly make things easier on my end so he's that's what his recommendation is she doesn't want to pay for an attorney I I've also thought about reaching out to somebody I know and try to get pro bono scenario yeah because what is a fee simple versus minor lot line adjustment is that the same thing I think they are it's just more lawyerly way of saying excuse me I misunderstood about an easement what I I didn't have any idea that I would still technically own the property with that way no I I want you know keep it I be blonde to the town it's fine I'll sign off on it you know whatever the part is to adjust the lot line you know you're saying move the boundary yes I guess I mean that makes I don't know what everyone else thinks but it's that's what I was thought it was going to be was that they were going to change where the lot line was going to be so I wouldn't own a put that prior part anymore it made sense to me why should I because it's part of this of skate space and you know that's fine I'm willing to sign off on that I don't know how to go about it though well we're we'll hop you with that that part of it and I think that I agree we could do a little reaching out to see if someone would be interested in doing it reduce straight but I think that that and my thought is the town would be covering any expense on Martha's behalf because we're yeah she's gifting us this land well cleaner down the road yeah thank you you know if that's possible I would appreciate it I I just I don't have a lawyer the last time I had a lawyer was when I wrote my will out 10 12 years ago and Sandy husband was still a lawyer and so I don't have a lawyer anyway all right thank you very much so just encourage you know a survey cost just a line change basically right they just need to find a pen and shoot it yeah be done with it drop a little map shows it where I feel like I'm getting deeper into things that I really and I would like to you know I will obviously help Jan is helped immensely and basically the reason we're doing this is to clean up the grants that we're going for right and to not have anything in the way when we actually do this project yeah so and but I'd rather focus on that than and this talk to lawyers yeah yeah all right well let's leave that in our hands I will reach out to the one thing the one person that I know yeah and I will respond to the select board in that in that respect yep but there's no guarantees I haven't mentioned it I just I want to I want I want to move it forward somehow yeah okay and the deadline the first grant deadline is June right Dean which one is that you had one that was early September yeah that's the that's the big one that we're going for the recreation but we're we're searching for other resources I reached out to Lawson's just recently and Jan did as well and I've got a couple more for our next meeting Jan so we're on it I just don't want to deal with lawyers it seems like it just goes down this rabbit hole yeah quickly but it's when she donated the land yeah however many years ago it was and it should have been correct at that point yeah and it was only by accident that it wasn't well you know I have a feeling that I this is my simple version if we if cricket hadn't brought it up I probably would have just gone ahead and done what we need to do and nobody would know the difference right you know and it would be done and we wouldn't have to jump through these hoops right I want all the eyes and cross all the teeth doing it correctly yeah well we'll get it figured out yeah all right so do you want I'll be in touch with do I just email you and they all read it is that how it works yeah okay all right okay great thank you yep yeah okay onto the new business the few vacant appointments that we had still outstanding is anyone had a chance to chat with any of these people that we're going to talk to Nick is going to take it I didn't send him an email because we recently received screen update information so I forwarded it to him and asked him and he said oh Nick will take it on okay so I moved to a point Nick I'm cute dough at the for the green up big coordinator second okay on there okay we go from the bottom and go up has anyone had a chance to talk with Robert mayor about being on the budget committee so we'll look that about Tim Crowley he's in Florida he's in Florida all right and he's some talked about to Jim Bowen someone who talked about mentioned him so we still have a few out there obviously we kind of let that linger well um well we got one move on move on to do more as we move on okay okay I said that he was willing to do the transfer station or whatever it was okay take your ball in spot yeah he said he would be happy to do it if you guys that the recycling coordinator to does he want to do that he said that he would but really works closely with Bonnie frequently so truly did that yeah so Julie's get that yeah and Troy's on here so if you wanted to say no he could unmute himself but I did not know to do that I've moved to a point try to the White River Alliance right on paper hi thank you Troy there thank you Troy and Mark has got something I'm sorry I couldn't hear Troy's last name or what Troy was being appointed to something about the transfer station right that is the White River Alliance Royalton advisory committee okay and and wait so it's the White River Royalton advisory committee White River Alliance Royalton advisory committee okay and what is Troy's last name oh that's Kristen's husband I'm so sorry excuse me all right I apologize hey that's on record we have an application from the Vermont Grand Fondo event on Saturday June 24th in the early afternoon what is that Grand Fondo is it's like a it's a it's a bike and race ride that Rochester is one of 12 plus towns through which 450 cyclists will pass over an eight-hour time frame and the department the Vermont Department of Public Safety requires them to gain permission from each town to notice by each town that they will be coming through and they will sign roadways and busy intersections and they've done this for a few years yes they're the ones they tried to go up Bethel Mountain Road when it was torn apart apart and they are insured they have so I've moved to approve so I can favor and so we also have a request to change the name of a road from a road to a drive did we table that we're gonna table that because we're okay well I'm just gonna give update we on that process involves communicating with everyone that lives on that road and we haven't been able to and 911 so we have still some more some things to check off so that was tabled because we're not gonna make that so who would incur the expense of new signs the individual who has requested this is there a sign the road has a sign be a road sign that says you know because it's just it's in there I don't think the town should have to incur the expense of a sign we'd have to we'd have to put a new sign at the end entrance because it's a separate route road or drive or whatever you know it's what's that how far do we plow oh it's not a it's private but it's private role but it's not we don't plow it I didn't think so if it's a private road I think that they could the sign yeah because it should say private on the sign anyway yeah not town road so you know they'd have to change the sign themselves I would think because not a town-supported road for E 911 purposes I would think it have to have a sign as part of it and it should say private on it doesn't any road that has two houses on it have to have a sign I don't know if that's a rule or not but I would think so there has to be some identification for E 911 okay well that to be continued next on the agenda we've got the RSUD Rochester Stockbridge Unified District school vote is May the second and so we're we're gonna warn that the legal voters of the town of Rochester are hereby notified and warned to meet on Tuesday May 2nd 2023 at the Rochester town office located at 67 School Street in Rochester Vermont beginning at 10 a.m. when the polls will open and ending at 7 p.m. to vote by Australian ballot to transact following business and that's going to oh wait this is that was too okay so we're putting a couple together this is the announcement to vote on whether or not to authorize cannabis retailers and integrated licenses in town pursuant to 7 VSA 8863 and then the others just one that we were talking about I thought I was talking about first the shadow voters of the town of Rochester authorized this is the one thank you the annual meeting warning for the school and the legal voters of Rochester Stockbridge Unified District consisting of the town of Rochester and Stockbridge notified and warned to meet at the Rochester campus so the Rochester Stockbridge Unified District in Rochester on May 2nd at 7 p.m. to consider an act upon the following articles 1 through 10 and discuss the articles to be voted upon by Australian ballot article 11 only so the you guys want me to read through all these or we just can basically the one for Australian ballot is the budget no it's only the directors only the directors to the elected directors the rest of them are going to be you have to be in person at the meeting to elect a moderator electric school district clerk school district treasurer to fix the salaries and onward that's gonna be a floor vote that'd be a floor vote and that is also to shallow voters of the school district approve the school board to expend four million six hundred fifty two thousand nine hundred and sixty three dollars which is the amount the school board is determined to be necessary for the ensuing fiscal year but it makes the town but it seems pretty right Martha's got a question I got somewhat confused there am I correct that the meeting is on Tuesday evening the second at 7 o'clock or is it on Monday the first at 7 o'clock no it's May 2nd at 7 p.m. okay so that's Tuesday May 2nd at 7 p.m. and and everything is going to be decided there in the auditorium except where you have to vote on the budget by Australian ballot while you're there you can't just raise your hand opposite opposite okay the only thing that is by Australian ballot which we can be vote all day is to elected directors to the Rochester Stockbridge unified school district for the Rochester to what day is right Chester Tuesday that is the second here I have one position it's only one position that's up so the meeting is until after you have the not confused two positions it's two weeks we've we've vote here at the town office during the day for the new director to represent Rochester on the school board and then at 7 o'clock we go to the gym in Rochester the gym the gymnasium in Rochester to vote on the budget in person from the floor from the gym so you vote during the day 10 to 7 on school directors and then at 7 p.m. you go to the gym for the meeting and voting on the budget correct right so I have a question when our two schools merged did the policy of voting the budget by Australian ballot also change we voted years ago to have Australian ballot for our budget and we're not going to vote Australian ballot any longer for our budget according to that warning are you saying that we voted that when we were just Rochester or not to do a student ballot but the Rochester school boy has dissolved and it is now the Rochester so that's what I asked was that policy did that dissolve with that policy with that merger my guess would be yes the way that Tara explained it that this happened over four years ago it used to be set up this way so with COVID it all changed and became Australian ballot for everything now it's going back to the way they said that it was before many years ago and you can request absentee ballots for both votes and they'll be available to mail out or pick up you got that Martha for both the meeting for it better clarify that in person and no for both the town the special cannabis and for the director Australian but not the budget but not the budget I will I will do my best to make sure I get this right and I think what I'm going to do if Julie doesn't mind is when I get that section written I will give her a buzz tomorrow and read it to her and say Julie is that correct and she will either say yes or no if she doesn't mind thank you it took us a couple days to get it in the office yeah so do we have anyone on zoom for representing the library tonight no we have Jeff depart and no one from Terry it's not on there probably no hey Jeff hey we got a report from the historical preservation folks about the library and they've got a lot of different ideas as to how things should go on and what I have proposed in the draft scope of work so I will go back to the drawing board with that the we also had a contractor up on the roof last week unfortunately he was not able to find the two screw holes that Jimmy Harvey saw from inside the attic he did do some clocking flashing flashing was in pretty bad shape up where the chimney comes up against the back of the gable end of the building and took some photos and characterized the roof as needing work the passengers are rusting out and you know they're starting to have holes bigger than the fasteners in some locations it is a 40 year old roof and their recommendation was to put a new one up okay well that's why we sent one up someone up there to look at it see what the situation was yeah one of the things I don't know is what can what kind of limitations exist we're getting prices on things that I assume have to be bid out you know a lot is there a dollar amount where things are required to be put out to bid and what happens if you had several stages of thing well they're trying to get to the grants gotta have some kind of idea as to what things are going to cost generally ten thousand dollars is the threshold when we're need to go out to bid and the question of of phasing it that's a good question I mean there has been times when we have phased projects to keep them you know to sidestep that requirement but if this is a pretty big job I don't know how easily I think that it is probably going to be considered all one project but I know I was been pondering this for a couple days and thinking that we had talked about using ARPA money for some of this library so and maybe a choice we may want to think about is to get a price on re-roofing and look at that as part of the ARPA piece because we could do that separate from what we don't know what this historical piece of this library is going to be in the grant process that we'd have to go through but the roof part we could nail down as far as we could get three bids on replacement and we could figure out what that would cost in the ARPA money would be used for that and that would take care of the roof but it wouldn't do anything for the sides but I think our original process when we talked about using ARPA money was we were looking at like forty thousand for the building for that library and we were hoping to just redo the sides but it's turned into something else that you know I'm not sure that that's going to be the amount we're going to need to use for coverage but I think if we need to replace the roof it would be something that we could use the ARPA money for that we could nail down without any issue and we could get stand and seam roof or metal corrugated however you want to we want to do that or even shingle if that's what we want to go back to and get a price for that we could nail that down with three different as long as that project the roof could also be considered part of the match for the grant that they're going for right because we we did say something to the effect of a 10% match to the grant up to twenty thousand dollars right so if we could go ahead and do the roof as long as it becomes part of the big plan and use it as that buffer to and that might be something that we should look at and how we do that so I don't know what what's your thought on that Jeff that sounds like a good idea to me it takes care of the roof with one funding source and the matching component of it helps the rest of the project and it puts the fire out right for what the damage is being created by the roof well it solves one one problem anyway yeah the top problem start from the top and work our way down yeah so I'm gonna you know we got a report from the historic preservation folks they feel actually they feel that they little tiny piece of flashing that got put on after the fact the separation between the first and the second floor has solved all our water problems they I don't buy it there's no drainage plane there's no whether resistive barrier to my knowledge at least as far as I can see and I would love to be able to take a little piece out of that wall to confirm exactly what is there the but but you know what they feel is that there just been so many layers of paint put over the top of it that the paint now can't adhere and it's buckling and pushing off the wedding on the backside didn't help that the problem is that they're suggesting is that we we basically scrape all the paint off the outside and repaint and that that will take care of things I believe we've got to create an airspace in there and and get when things get wet inside we need to give it a chance to get dry and need the wedding and the drying to happen roughly the same rate and that's you know that's what's the current best practice from a building science standpoint if we take all the lead uncovered on cladding off there we can get a membrane on the that's breathable on the outside of the studs on the sheathing we can create either a three eighths to a three quarter inch airspace put the material in the bottom and at the top to keep rodents and critters out and putting on the new cladding we can paint with primer the backside of that cladding as well as the front side and then two coats on the top coats on it will give it a much more robust lifetime that process I utilized in my own home I painted it in 2004 that house this house has no problems where the vented rain screen exists was that painter state yet what was that Frank what was that painter state um the where the good part of the wall is pain okay I would not recommend staying but what I'll do is I will try to push back politely regarding uh you know the the original reason we got going on this uh that's fixing the wall assembly right um that doesn't solve the issue with the windows though that doesn't address that water sitting on those cells well I think we we need to probably make sure that we clear the snow along those walls a little bit but um actually creating the water screen creating a vented rain screen which creates a space for that water to drain out of um will fix the problem around the windows particularly if we replace the windows where we can then much more easily tie in the weather resistive barrier and get everything sealed properly it's a challenge to seal around the window opening when there's already a window in it yeah well I'm going to go back to the drawing board and see if we can get them to you know I don't really see why they should object to to this component because it's not a visual thing at all right all right yeah push away I'll be in touch with you about the rooms Jeff I think we might might want to look at it that way and see what what we get for pricing on that does does the board have a stand have standard requirements for insurance and you know some some basic language with contracts that go out of construction standpoint and I think there are some things that you know referencing meeting energy code where it pertains this building may not pertain if it's in the historic district but also you know adhering to fall safe criteria um you know having making sure that people are properly insured so that my ability doesn't wind up back with the town somehow Jeff as of April 1st which is right around the corner all residential contractors need to be licensed by the state of Vermont they have to go to the office of professional regulation and sign themselves up with a fee so along with that process um they submit their insurance and their um their corporate registration whether it be a corporation or an LLC along with that so you would you would want to be looking for a state certified contractor because as of April 1st they're all supposed to be certified that would help them there yeah they're not really certified they're registered there's other than the insurance requirements that you mentioned and that is correct other than that it's simply a registry of builders that do projects I think that that are up to or exceed $10,000 something like that you know there's been no enforcement of the energy code period since its inception in 97 so you know I continually find builders who claim they don't know that there is one and I've also been trying to get some of the younger ones some of the links to things like that requirement and I hand out energy code books to them as well if I see them on a job site or that farmers market and they haven't gotten one of them that is a good point but I think there's probably some other things that the town may want to consider as boilerplate and contracts for construction work and we do generally yeah we normally fall into a contract as well all right well thank you for puzzling through all this with us Jeff you're welcome yep it's um making progress little by little um is that it grant updates yeah yeah grant updates sir not much um we did on March 20th receive our final FEMA payment oh we did I'm excited to say yes 47,699 dollars and 11 cents so we are done with that our final reimbursement for how Brooke design was submitted last week in the amount of 3,500 dollars and I have a letter in there that I asked you to sign doing um so I can get access to the GEARS website um just so I can keep track of all the grants I was was speaking with Cassie Bell and she asked me to do that that's that all right we'll be sitting down yes next week sometime I think um with John and try to get Rita and Chris Bump involved and figure out what the class two paving grant that John wants to look at and figure where that can go because that has to be done by April 15th I think it is tax day I believe and um originated with Rita did you is that something that started with Rita like did she reach out to John about that yes I believe so okay yep I think that's the same one and plus and we'll have to look for another 25,000 after uh June 30th for the bridge that we'll have to do which Chris Bump would do and he has mentioned that he wants to get with us and I think they asked to try to get some meeting together last week but the office was a little bit in enough people um due to circumstances yeah you said he'd be back in touch this week so we'll get to that and there's some other things we need to address with them yep also yep thank you I'm moving on to old business we've got um a um section 256 in 14 and um in our um master financial policy that we need to adopt so section two is a purchasing policy and section five is a debt management policy section six is a capital budget and program policy and section 14 is a grant reporting procedure policy and so these are all just um steps we need to take to um have our duck's in a row to um be ready to be compliant with their required financial policy to them so I'd move to approve these policies I can second that yeah all in favor all right yeah so a lot of this has um been um provided and dictated by by the state and in the VLCT it's not like um we've had to create this out of thin air but we definitely have to adopt it so that one and as the world turns this can only be a method yes the first policies I don't know if you saw there's one in done I'll see you in the morning and you said there's some old ones that we didn't sign the first ones we gave you a signature page so there are things all right yeah make sure you sign everything okay so we got those anything else from zoom rooms kind of emptied out rooms all set just us so I guess we'll uh journey and pay some bills move to adjourn second all in favor all right all right take care


Hello everybody, E here. Welcome back to another different kind of video. I told my friend Sarah that I was thinking about doing this video. This is one of those things where I am hesitant to do because it's a little more personal. It's not anything for entertainment value or anything like that. It's just a little more insight into me. And that's what I do with my books that fall apart. I have several books that have just decayed over the years to where there are nothing but pages. Some of them don't have. I even have one book that I found out the boards were pissed on or recovered and pissed when I bought the book. And I ripped those off, but I've been using the pages of that book for this kind of stuff. I do artwork. And no, I'm not selling any. Sorry. I did a long time ago and it didn't go over too well. Well, it went over too well because I ended up... There was an eBay auction and I made a pretty good amount of money off of it. But I said I'd refuse to do it again because I don't want one of my last hobbies to become... I mean, my writing was a hobby. Reading is a hobby. And that's almost become like a job. I've been doing review requests. I don't make money off those. But I did review requests and of course I pay my bills with my writing. So, this is Sam from Trick or Treat. Let me trick or treat. I have... Everybody knows who this one is. But if you look on the back, this is actually a copy of Stephen King's Leasey's story. It might actually be one from Insomnia too. I think this is from Insomnia... Yeah, Ralph. This is from Insomnia. This is from Leasey's story. These books that I've read over and over and over again. But the most prevalent one is the Ebony one from my novel, The Sound of Broken... This is the cover artwork, the actual cover artwork. Let's see if I can get this without making a mess. I usually knock everything over. You guys know how I do. Stay up there. But that is this. Just touched up in Photoshop. But if you look at this, this is actually a page from the book also. So I think this is Insomnia. Yeah, Ed Dippinu. Yeah. This is from Insomnia also. So yeah. Oh, and this is something I got in New York. That's not actually my artwork. I put it over it for now until I actually get it. Anybody else out there buy pictures expecting to buy frames at some point in time and then you just never buy frames? That's me. All day, every day. This isn't my artwork either. This is from the same guy who did the Lorne thing back here. This thing. I didn't care too much for it because this is from my novel Cruelty. I've never seen from it. But he made it too cutesy. So I'm not a huge fan of that. But yeah. Oh, another thing. Well, I'm showing off artwork. This is another thing from another story that will come eventually. So I'm not going to give you the name because I don't want you to know what it looks like in case you read the book. But I also have some other artwork. And while we're here, we might as well go ahead and show you. Good or even decent. But it's just things that I do. I do a lot of rolling artwork. I'll just put paint on something and let it drip. So I would just put paint on it and then let it drip. I use this for things like cover art and other things that I'm not going to tell you about. Things like this. And this looks almost like a black metal album cover. And then I have failures. These are actually canvases. This is me just goofing off trying to get things right. And then like this you have this is actually used in the limited edition of The Bedding of Boys. It's a character from that. And then if you've read The Sound of Broken Ribs I even tried to do a scene from that but I failed. So, yeah. I do a lot of this stuff. Ooh, I got my pumpkin, man. I like up close faces if you couldn't tell I like the up close faces. This one I call Dinosaurs on Parade. This is another one of my drippy artworks. And these are actual canvases but what I do with... That's what I do with pages that fall out of books or books that fall apart. I repurpose them for art. I've also done some origami over the years. That didn't work out quite as well as this stuff did. And it's all dusty. Anywho, that's everything. I suppose if you have any questions or want to know anything else about me that you'd like me to do a video on leave it down there in the doobly-doo. But until next time, I have been E, you and you. This has been another video. I'll talk to you guys later. Bye-bye.


We are awakening to the calling of the mystic Digging is really symbolic of the uncovering that you have to do in your mind There is a lot of uncovering. We can't we can't really skip over it We can't say that that you know we can just click our heels together or twinkle our noses like can be wished and we'll know The kingdom of heaven it's it seems to be a process of digging and Exposing but but once you start to realize how important the digging is then you can dig it To use a phrase from the 60s, you know, you kind of get into the Attraction to it like oh, yeah, this is a good use of time And that's why you know, we only have two guidelines here at the monastery Surrounding houses, and it's no private thoughts and no people policing because it's that exposure We all see how valuable that is and we all have to have practice in learning not to take it personal Well, these spirits not taking anything personal.  It doesn't matter the magnitude of what seems to have been done wrong It's that there are no lies that that light can't dispel and so That's kind of an extreme example, but when you're living in community you have a lot of opportunity to practice Overlooking the error you can't do it personally you have to have the strength of the Holy Spirit to look past The defiled altar Jesus says to the light of the atonement. That's the Holy Spirit's function The Holy Spirit has only one function to look past the defiled altar to the light of the atonement Overlooking the error The Holy Spirit looks not to effects The Holy Spirit looks not to the images of the world, you know, we can't Anthropomorphize the Holy Spirit and make the Holy Spirit into a human figure You're like God is watching us God is watching us Distance, you know, no God is not Watching from a distance and the Holy Spirit is not watching the Holy Spirit doesn't see people and Plants and things and guns and bombs and and politics and all the things those are all inventions of the ego that are just Projected they're just concepts that are projected onto a movie screen and believed real and the more you're identified with the movie The more it's really difficult. It's hard to it's impossible to be at peace when you're identified with The concepts and the images, but the Holy Spirit, you know, it says in the Course Miracles the Holy Spirit looks not to effects The Holy Spirit knows that the cause of all these effects of the world all these shattered images is Not real the ego made the world Bad and greeted the ego made up the world The ego uses the world and the images of the world to keep the mind trapped and guilty and Until you can look with the Holy Spirit And go deep enough inside and see that the the ego is not real So that means all the effects the seeming effects of the ego can't be real either They don't these effects don't have a real source who we are, you know The Son of God the Christ has a source, but these effects have no real source So those are the divine you could say metaphysics of forgiveness is You keep exposing you dig and dig and dig like like they were all digging there all the little cures And then finally you clink you unite and you come together in these beautiful blazing recognitions that Really are our light. They aren't they really aren't Perceptual joinings at all So it's more of going into the light in your mind. It's not a matter of trying to join bodies We've tried that. We've tried to join bodies and it never works We find that out over and over again, but we don't have to stop there We don't have to be depressed or disappointed because the bodies never seem to join We find that through joining is in purpose. It's the light in our mind and So it's like it's like hooray for the uncovering hooray for the exposing hooray for whatever music movies relationships Meditation experiential diet work, you know hooray for everything that helps us Expose the error expose these false concepts and beliefs Because that is absolutely necessary you you don't approach truth directly you approach it through negation You just simply discover everything that the truth is not Until you finally go, ah ha And then the truth downs in your awareness, but you will not approach it You know just by affirming The truth you know affirmations You know heads are placed, but but the course of miracles is saying you have to remove the obstacles To the awareness of love's presence So good and and for a lot of people that doesn't sound like a really good romantic reason To be in a relationship Do you promise to remove all the In your mind so help you God I do and do you Take this partner not to take this partner Not to possess them not to control them not to manipulate them not to try to fix them simply to Allow the Holy Spirit to remove all the obstacles in your mind So help you God I do and you're married. You're married in purpose and And there's can be a more sense of lightness a sense of laughter The sense of yes, you can actually have fun With relationships when you have the right context for the relationship if you're going if you've got the wrong context It's gonna be a mess. It's gonna it's gonna no matter how much ooh la la Disess the ego puts in there, you know, it is going to you're gonna have a fall And like Humpty Dumpty it will be a great fall because the expectations will just build up and build up and What are we really talking about when we're talking about these expectations we're talking about God Substitute expectations. That's what's underneath the expectations. Oh, I'm miserable. I'm unworthy of love I don't like the single model that I am so I'm going for a couple month I'm trading in Trading in the single model for a couple model and even the couple model may give you a little bit of ooh la la for a little Wow, but it's going to be the same fall Because the single model and the couple model are the man And even lest I say the group model You know when people are so frightened about cults and sex Sex it's what it is. It's it's this sense of a group self-concept Take the place of a miserable little individual self-concept or Even The couple concept could get kind of boring after a while. So let's do an orgy concept You see it's always the ego has got something more More pazzazz more stimulation more excitement and it still doesn't get you there. It's still the same Trap it's still the same wheel of time the same karmic wheel. It just spins around and around But we're onto it


Welcome back. It's still the breakfast in PlusTV Africa. Well, the socioeconomic rights and accountability project Nigerian Suicide Organization is the president of the country, Bahama Dabuhari, to direct the Minister of Pa, Mr. Gordy Jedi Alba, and the chairman and chief executive officer of the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission, Professor James Momo, to immediately reverse the unlawful, what he calls the unlawful, unjust and unreasonable increase in the electricity tariff which reportedly reportedly occurred in December 2022. Now, Serap also urged him to quote and share the investigation of the spending of public funds as investments and bailouts by successive governments to electricity distribution companies and the power generating companies since 2005. And the prosecution of cases of corruption and mismanagement. Now, following the reported approval by the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission, electricity tariffs were increased across the discos in the country in December 2022. Now, several prepaid customers have reportedly confirmed the increase or the increase of both the minister of power and NEC have refused to confirm or deny this situation. We are joining us to look at this and provide analysis for us. George Atomi is a chairman of West Pa and Gas. He joins us via Zoom. Good morning to you, George. And thank you very much for your time. Good morning and happy new year. All right. Same to you, George. Have you noticed that you're paying more for Pa? Personally, I've been complaining at home, saying I don't know what's going on because, I mean, we're not quite much in the house. And by culture, by practice, where I reside, we turn things off, we turn a lot. Sometimes we switch it in top of if there's no one at home as a way of saving the cost. I tell you what, George, I could load, let's say, $5,000, for instance, it can last me a week and some days. And sometime in November, I began to realize, October, I began to realize that loading $20,000, $30,000 a month was not enough. It was not enough. I tell you what, George, I did an experiment, put in $10,000, you know, Ekeja Electric, last week, Sunday, the Sunday before this last Sunday, and it got exhausted on Sunday, which means that $10,000 was finished in a week. I don't know if you've noticed this. And why do you think we're seeing this hush-hush and secret increase in the tariff without going through what we normally know to be the process? Well, let me correct one notion that it's hush-hush and that it's secret. I don't know if it's on this program or somewhere else that I've explained how the tariff system works. The regulator is obliged by law to roll out a tariff structure, a review, which is major. It's done once every five years. And then in between, you have the six monthly minor tariff reviews. This would cater for inflation and things like currency, depreciation, and stuff like that. So it is not a secret. It's on the website. The increases you are talking about is the mito that was rolled out for January 2022 and will take us up to January 2026. That is a five-year major tariff review. It's done because the losses, it must be done. And if they don't do it, then you would have severe consequences for investments in the sector. So that notion that it was secret, it was hush-hush, is not correct at all. Now to the direct question of whether or not there have been tariff increases. There have been tariff increases, but it's differed from disco to disco. If they go electricity, for example, the tariff increase has only affected bands A and B customers. And it's about roughly between 15 and 20 percent increase. Bands C, D, and E are not affected at all. And it varies from disco to disco, depending on the factors that are taken into consideration before the major tariff review is done. So yes, there has been a tariff increase, but it's not across the electricity distribution company. So that's really what the situation is. When I say hush-hush, it's because with this current situation, we don't know what's going on. The discos have not said anything. NEC has not said anything. Nobody in the federal government hasn't said anything about this. Normally, we would hear, though, we're going to increase the tariffs. It's time to be aware of this, get ready. We know the process of the procedure. It's all online. And even I think sometime last year, the Nigeria Electricity Regulatory Commission came out to say that Nigerians should bear with them. They might have to adopt a six-monthly review of the tariffs owing to foreign exchange, you know, shortfalls and inflation as well. Excuse me. So in that vein, would you say that this has been the current situation? There's been some at the needed level of transparency and openness to carry the general public along so we know what is going on? For instance, if I ask you, can you tell me the current rate, per kilo at R? What current tariff? Yeah, I can tell you that. But I must also give you full disclosure. West Pangas is a core investor in a co-electricity distribution company. So thank you very much for that. I know a bit more than perhaps the general public. Yeah, but we will not be being carried along. No information. But I must also concede the points that you are making that perhaps this goes should have sent out notices just as part of customer relations. And I believe if they are listening, they should do that. But then don't let's not get away from the original point we made. And you consider that Nick did tell people that in between these minor reviews, you see this is by law, this actually according to law. If they don't do it, they'll be breaching contracts with members of the value chain. And then the six monthly one is simply to cater, as I said, for things to do with inflation, currency, fluctuations, and so forth and so on. Don't forget that electricity market also operates within the reality of the economy context in Nigeria. Everything is going up. Everything is changing. The most of the materials they use are sourced from abroad. They can get forex at favorable exchange rates. So they go to the market like everybody else to see for forex. And it affects the operations. So if they're going to give you the minimum that's expected of them under the various service bands, then those adjustments must be made to these tariffs, to cater for these things I just talked about. Now, just again, so we can contextualize this discussion. The discourse themselves, once this increase takes place, discourse pay for power too. It's not as if it's just given to them. So the minimum remittance order is also issued with their request discourse to increase their remittances to the market. And anyway, you can meet with that obligation is to ensure that you make collections and you meet with those obligations because there are severe sanctions if you do not meet with those market obligations. So it's not as if power is just given to discourse. And then whether or not they like it, they just consume and not return. You have to return. And we begin to see movements in the electricity market in which discourse has been sanctioned for one reason or the other. It shows you the reality of the and the maturity of the privatization process. New players will come on board. Investments will be made, which is what the sector needs very badly. So all we just want is to ensure that the enabling environment is created so that the well-needed investment in the sector comes in. To be honest with you, as we almost talked, for example, as you know about petroleum subsidies and coal, the government can simply not continue to subsidize these sectors and they've hanced off electricity. I'm sure the Minister of Finance, you recall, said this sometime in 2022 that they have hanced off electricity subsidies and has a reality on the ground. And so what the market will now begin to do is slowly adjust to the reality. Now, what is the corollary to this? Consumers must hold electricity companies to their obligations. You have rights. Consumers have rights. And they must begin to insist the regulator will listen to them and has generally listened to them so that both ways you get value for what you are doing. But always our Nigerians, that if we allow the market to settle down, we hope you get to a point where you will require less of alternative power supply to yourselves. Right now, the average Nigerian self-generates a lot. He has diesel, he has a bifur, he does solar, he does inverter, he does so many things. Ideally, you shouldn't carry all these costs. And if you aggregate your general costs, if you include all these, the rates is for some people is close to 280 Naira per kilowatt hour. And yet the highest band in the Kogi school is about 68 Naira per kilowatt hour. So if Nigerians begin to see that a movement which will create greater efficiency in the industry means an overall reduction in their electricity self-generating costs, then perhaps they'll understand that this is the right way to go. Okay. Because for how long would we be budgeting to have generators, diesel, inverter, solar, all the government? Mr. Tommy, you've fainted a picture of what Nigerians are going through. The multi-year tariff order was touted as by NERC and the industry as something that will then be on for 15 years, a 15-year tariff path with a review, major reviews every five years. You know, why isn't that being adhered to? It is. That's exactly what's going on. Exactly what is going on. 15-year tariff path, five-yearly major reviews and then six-monthly minor reviews. But we saw some reviews last year. That's what I'm saying, six-monthly minor reviews. There's a major one, five years. And that's what NERC just released, June, January 2022 up to 2026. In between, you'll be having minor tariff reviews. In the UK, for example, the minor reviews are every quarter, just so that you cope with the reality. But Mr. Tommy, the UK you're talking about, you pay for what you get. You have power. You pay for what you get. In Nigeria, a lot of people are still on post-paid and they are being ripped by the discourse, ripped, imagined a situation where before this current increase, there are some Nigerians, like myself, I was on a post-paid for some time. And I know people whose annual rent was not up to, or whose monthly light bill, annual light bill, was two times, three times, four times the annual rent. Simply because someone sat somewhere and said, this is what you're going to pay. Now, are these increases justified looking at what Nigerians are going through at the moment? That's not the argument. The argument is there is a business on ground. The business has a path to becoming whole. We're not going to do these things overnight. There's a regulator who ensures that it balance between the interests of investors and the consumers. That's why I said that consumers have rights and they can insist. Post-paid is an era we should be departing. And you know there's a meta rollout that's going on across discourse. To be honest with you, you know there is this estimated bills regulation in place, which actually caps what discourse can charge with regard to estimated bills. And many discourse are finding out. They're actually losing money, estimating people. In many instances, when you actually meter them, you tend to get the correct consumption, because once that estimated cap is applied, whether, no matter what the consumer consumes, you can't go beyond that cap. So it's not even in the interest of discourse to have estimated bills or postpaid meters. But the meta rollout, as you know, is continuing across discourse and will continue. And don't forget meters to have lifespans. There are many meters that were given, God knows, ages ago, which also have to be remitted.  You must get to that point where there are sanctions for not doing that. And secondly, you cannot even estimate beyond a certain cap set by the regulator. So it's important that consumers are educated about this. But I go back to the point I made earlier on. If consumers do not want to continue to carry the burden of self-generation, which is phenomenally higher, the complaints I hear most times is about the bills coming from discourse. Nobody's talking about the diesel bill. Diesel is fully regulated. Diesel costs have quadrupled in the last two and a half years. And some people depend more on diesel than on power from the grid. That shouldn't be the case. But why people are willing to live with that reality? And then argue each time there is a modest increase in electricity, just bits me completely. Whereas what we should be doing is get to the point where you don't depend on alternatives. Right now, I would like to make the argument, barring this inexplicable scarcity in petrol and diesel, or in petrol rather, that has driven up the price. I don't want to go into diesel. But for those who use petrol, like myself at home, barring the scarcity we're seeing and then the increase in prices above the pump price, all to buy a liter of petrol at the regulated pump price. For some households, it will be cheaper to go on a generating set than to go with the distribution companies. For instance, Ikeji Electric from where to which I'm a customer. It's not bad right now. No, let me tell you, you're talking about petrol generators. And don't forget your petrol is heavily subsidized. There are arguments that is unsustainable. And in fact, many of your presidential candidates are saying, in fact, the minister just announced that from June this year petrol subsidies will go. Maybe arguments will change. But those who use diesel don't have the same experience. Those who use diesel pay phenomenally higher than for what they pay for green power. Some of them are complaining. Some are complaining that they put on their lights, prepaid, and within a matter of days, what they bought for thousands, tens of thousands is gone. Look, you need to understand how much you consume per kilowatt hour. So for instance, for Ikeji Electric, for instance, with the review now from December, how much are we paying per kilowatt hour? I'm telling you that Ike is only bands A and bands B. The other bands are not affected. Band A is 68 nair and band B is just under 69 after this increase. So you need to understand that no increases to band C, D, and E. So band A being what? Excuse me. Is band A special? Yeah, because you know there was tariff classification. Yes, yes, yes. Even by the regulator. And depending on how many hours of electricity you get, you pay. And those who are willing to pay higher are the ones that are then categorized in a way they may categorize. Some Nigerians to manage their budgets are happy to do 10, 12 hours a day. They just time it for when they want to sleep most of the time out of the house. So they opt to remain at some of the lower bands. Some consume according to, from the, on the higher bands. And that's why it's called service-based tariffs. And it must come with certain minimum number of hours that you get. And that's why I said, and what many discourse or try to do now is to move people from the lower bands to the higher bands so that as you, your fortunes improve with any electricity, you're able to afford it. That's what many of them are doing. That's why I said it's not an increase across board. It is an increase. And if you notice, for example, over the holiday period, you would have noticed that people got sturdier electricity. Yeah. I admit, I admit that, I admit that. Transition is very serious. Yes. But, but, Mr. Thomas, some, some people are saying. Can I just make this point so that you understand? Yes, please, yes, please. Me and you must educate the public here.  So power was diverted for residential offices, which tells you one story that if discourse have power they'll give it to you. Many times people say they're paying for that. So that then brings me to the point, why aren't we getting, now that we've all resumed? Yeah, we're, we're out of time. So please, in just a sentence or two, please. Okay. Yeah. I'm done. I'm done. Okay. So Mr. Thomas, some are saying that from the calculations they're paying as high as 75, 79 Naira per kilowatt. From my calculation, I'm paying around 18 Naira in a residential facility. Yeah. What, what band are you in? And I think it's that, that's, that's, We'll look, we'll look at that some other day. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much for your time. We'll look at that some, thank you so much for your time. Mr. Judge Itomi, we appreciate you joining us this morning. And that's the size of our package right here on the breakfast. 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