So, the kids at the summer scholars program are learning about human movement and how we analyze it in 3D using all the equipment that we have in our Biomotion Lab. I think it's so great. I think it's one of a kind that up in this mountain town we have a lab that has all the technology that we do that really isn't found anywhere else in the world and they get to come in and they can experience firsthand how we use motion capture, how we use force plates, EMG, we tell them about the motion sensors that we have that can go outside the lab and you know it's not not an opportunity that a lot of kids get in cities let alone in a mountain town so I think offering this camp to them is awesome. Today we're in the Center for Regenerative Sports Medicine and the students are actually staining a little piece of elbow tissue called the UCL so it's a ligament in the elbow. They're actually staining that so they can determine exactly what's inside the cell and understand a little bit more about the morphology of the cell and what they're dealing with. Primarily what we do here normally is we work with both cells and tissues and so we're trying to give the summer scholars kids a chance to do both of that so what we did this morning was we gave them some tissue samples and we had them work on two different types of really basic staining and it's cool because they get to go through the whole process themselves and then this afternoon they're gonna get to cover slip and actually take some of those photos home with them and we're also gonna give them little glimpse of what we do in our cell culture room so I've got some muscle-derived stem cells in there and I'm gonna show them what we do and how we culture those cells. This is such a cool opportunity for the kids because they really don't get this type of experience in their normal science class. So we hope at the end of the week that they get a better idea of how we can analyze human movement. I mean I love teaching first of all but I wish I had known about more of the available opportunities for me going into college.


Let me see here, I'll go to my chat right here. I almost turned it off. Ain't gonna be long before you almost had to cancel cause, but I say let me go ahead and go on through with it. But you know what? I got a, somebody sent me a video on Instagram and that's what I wanted to get on here and just chat just to, it's easier to make a video sometimes through live. So this is not a Q and A. So hopefully I'll put that in the title so people know it's not a Q and A but I figured instead of having to shoot a whole video then upload a video. And I don't know if it's my, my wifi or what but I've been having a lot of trouble uploading videos. I've been having to upload them two times, three times and I don't know if it's just too many people trying to upload on YouTube at the same time or if it's my wifi or, and then sometimes the whole video uploads and it has zero minutes. It's the whole video, but it's a zero, zero, zero. And so therefore it's registered as it's a, it has no time. So, and the way I can tell that the system actually sees it as no time is if you turn on advertisements, if your video is over eight minutes, then they wanna place mid-roll ads in there. But I have a video an hour long and it say zero dot zero zero and it just, and it doesn't have mid-roll ads. And so something been going on with my YouTube. So I'm trying to figure that out, but I'm here. And then last time somebody was like, Tony, thank you for not putting no ads on the video. That wasn't me. Cause I just turned on the little monetization and then I let YouTube do the rest. That wasn't me, but they were unselecting it. The mid-roll ads, it was like after they approve it for advertisements, they were unselected. And then you have to manually select it. And now I guess for viewer experience, they got it to where you select it, but it's just maybe one or two or it's a lot less. So I let YouTube do that on just their little algorithm, how they do it. And so God bless y'all. Hopefully y'all get what you want on that. But I wanted to pop on here cause somebody sent me a video on Instagram and it was a young man and he was talking about it's from the Instagram page disappointed in the page because the page is spiritual word. And I just see a lot of stuff that ain't got nothing to do that's not spiritual at all. And I think maybe at first they want to be some spiritual and just realize it pays more to be ratchet. And so they post all kinds of stuff on there. And this shirt is one of the coaches at Baylor University basketball. He had this shirt and so he gave me a bunch of them. So I got so many different colorways. So I wear his shirt more than mine. It's actually more comfortable than mine. And so, and I'm like this old sacrilegious page talking about spiritual word. That make you think that you about to see something about God and somebody sent me a video from there and it's a young man and he talking about he was married for five years and it was incredible. That's what he said. It was incredible. And the only reason why he left is cause he knew he wanted more. And the captain said he left cause he got bored which is basically the same thing. And then he said he don't wanna be comfortable in a relationship. He don't wanna be comfortable in a relationship. And he wants to that you gotta be selfish. So he said you can't get out here in this world and live if you're not gonna be selfish. And so he left after five years because he got too comfortable. And he didn't wanna be in a relationship anymore cause he wants to grow to his highest level. He said. And he said the relationship was incredible. Now, when I listened to the video what I pictured was myself throwing my hands in the air and telling the car to run me over. And I was gonna jump out the way at the last minute. But I actually got hit and then I saw a headline that say life coach accidentally commits trying to make a video. So I changed my thoughts. And then I saw myself falling on the ground and just rolling and just rolling on the ground. Like that's what that video made me feel like. Like I just wanted to pass out. Like what in the world did I just hear? What in the world have we come to? And the thing about it is he probably just wanted a few that's bold enough to say that but or articulate enough to say it. But honestly, that's the reason why almost any man who leave a marriage leave it because it's not a lot of women cheating on their husband and that's why the man leaving. A lot of times it's the man, he wants something else.   I'm like, my goodness.  It don't matter what you do. You can ask somebody who's skydiving and they'll tell you, I'm tired of skydiving. The most exhilarating thing in the world, it'll become mundane to them because they do it every day, all day long. So if we are looking for a relationship that's gonna make us feel good and that's gonna take us to our highest self and that's gonna keep us not being bored. We will never ever be in a long-term lasting relationship because no matter what you do, you build a tolerance to it and you get to a place to where it's supposed to be like riding a bicycle. You're supposed to be able to just chill. You're supposed to be able to put you on a couple pounds. You're supposed to be able to let your hat down, let your hat lying out. You're supposed to be comfortable in love. You're supposed to feel good. You're supposed to feel secure. And he said, and I saw somebody in the comments, and I saw a rapper in there and it's like, it would be a gangster rapper saying something crazy to my old interesting perspective. I'm like, man, come on, don't sit down somewhere, man. We need to have just a man's school where you can't even say anything online until you graduate man's school or woman's school too.  I understand, that makes sense. And all that, I was like, what?    And you're gonna go through heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak, because when you get out there, when this young man and the young man who think like him, the man, it's an old man, think like that too.  Guess what, you're gonna meet your match. You're going to meet your match. And you finna meet a savage out of the pit of Satan house.  She finna to sift you like wheat. She finna to devour you like the woman that the book of Proverbs warn us about.  But because I'm comfortable with this woman, after five years of marriage, I'm finna leave.  More what? More headaches, more arguments, more bedroom action, like more what? Like what's better than peace? What's better than peace? It's like, come on, I'm blown away. I say, wow, what in the world? And so listen to me, love is selfless, not selfish. But see the thing is, and when the young man was talking, it's like, I can tell he got a little bit of education.    I'm just using real life examples.  What is more than incredible? What's more than incredible? And this is the thing. And listen, I don't know what no good looking man looked like. I don't know what no good looking man looked like.  I couldn't tell with this hill gentleman, but I know it's a lot of other gentlemen that think the same way. And listen to me, listen. Yeah, ain't all that, yeah, ain't all that.   But when you broke, and I'm gonna tell you, if you ain't got 10 million sitting in the bank, five million sitting in the bank, we all broke.   Got to go through real man university, real man college, real man academy, real man academy before y'all men say anything else with this hill foolishness.  I say, man, this is crazy. It's absolutely crazy. Just to have the audacity, to have the audacity and see the men who saying this look like somebody to punch them in the nose.   Guess what? You finna get that woman that the book of Proverbs talk about round chapter four five that's waiting in the wings in the alleyway and she got her perfume and she got everything and she finna take you in there, rob you and get through with you. That's what you're gonna get because when you can't appreciate some good, guess what? You finna get some bad. And listen, people have to stop confusing selfishness. We call it selfishness. I done made that mistake and said selfishness. Setting boundaries for your life or setting standards for your life, that's not selfishness, that's self love.  And guess what? How in the world? Whether you, he obviously, he do not believe in God. He do not believe in God. And he believe in God, he ain't of no kind of faith. He believe in a man like this. I ain't just talking about the video, but men like this, when I say he, I'm talking about the men that fit in this hill, what I'm talking about. They believe in a fairy. They don't believe in of a faith because there ain't no faith that's of God that's gonna okay you leaving an incredible marriage because you want something more. And he probably, he could be these type of men, they could be talking. It's just a green grass syndrome. That's all it is. It's a green grass syndrome and you got different types. And this why I tell y'all, that's why dating is important because you got to get to know this person before you go into covenant. That mindset of selfishness and boredom, that was already there before marriage. That ain't come out the marriage. That was already there. But see, you got to take time and see the thing about this, this is something that, this is an insecure man. Okay. Nyasha took the words out my mouth. Nyasha took the words out my mouth. I know I'm saying your name wrong. He want a man. And see, I don't comment on videos, but when I tell you my thumbs was itching, my thumbs, I had to fight so hard, not to type, you want to choose a man. You want to a man.  I'm literally about to fall out. I've seen that, I just got to be an April Fools joke. This has got to be a troll.  It got to be fake. It got to be fake. But then what these type of men will come out and do, they'll come out and say, I said it was incredible, but I didn't literally mean that. Honestly, if I just want to be honest now, what I was trying to say is I wanted to protect my ex. I didn't want to bat my off my ex. I didn't want to point out flaws of my ex. And these men now sitting there with a punch in the nose face, ain't nothing special about them. You don't got no billion dollars to offer nobody to be hollered by I want more. More what? And see a lot of times men, we always could look and see the grass green over there. We always can look at another woman and see her with something that our woman doesn't seem to have. And you and as a man, we could look at a woman who she might look good. And she might look gorgeous. And we might look at our woman and say, well, she gorgeous, but it's gorgeous. I love her gorgeous. This woman over here, gorgeous, gorgeous. But then the man will go get with the woman and he think gorgeous, gorgeous. And he'll wake up with something to his neck. Every other night, he'll wake up with something to his neck and he like, what in the world did I do? Why did I leave comfortable, incredible relationship for what I thought were gorgeous, gorgeous. And then, or that thing, oh, that thing smelling like sardines, just being left out, just sitting, just sitting in the sun.  That thing, that thing smells so putrid. He can't eat a dead fish.  I'm talking about literal dead fish. But he thought that it was better over there. And see, this is the other thing. Some men, y'all looking at this woman who make a lot of money. You're looking at this woman who grind and she get it in, she do her thing. And you looking at this woman and you like, I want that kind of woman. I want that kind of woman. I remember one time my wife thought I wanted that. I remember she said, I know you probably want a woman who is like a boss and do all of this. I said, why would I want somebody who do the same thing I do? Why, I'm a boss. What I want a woman that's trying to be a boss in the world for, because if I got to go here and she got to go there, who went the kids? So I'm like, I love the fact. And it was early in our relationship, a moment of weakness just going through because she was gonna go be a doctor. She was in school to be a doctor. And then we had our first son and she locked all the way in. And my wife, she the type, she a perfectionist. She gotta be the best at what she do. So she got a book that literally was 700 pages long and she read that whole book to master parenthood. And the stuff that every other parent was going through, we was not going through it because my wife read a 700 page book written by doctors on how to raise kids. And because she did that work, our son was sleeping through the night. He never slept in our bed. He never slept in our room. He slept through the night. He never had terrible tools. He never had temper tantrums. Everything was different because she prepared herself at the highest level. Somebody say, she real boss. Yes, she is. But it was that moment and everybody who here, if we being real, we had a moments.  It's especially if the stay at home mom is happy. Now, if she miserable and can't spend no money, can't do nothing and all of that, no, she don't want that. But if she happy and she the CEO of home and she don't have to go punch nobody clock, she don't have to work 40 hours a week. The woman who working 40 hours a week will look over there sometimes and desire that lifestyle. The woman who was independent, but her life pushes her into motherhood and she don't have to work because her man make enough money that she don't have to work and he don't want her to work. Then she may sometimes look over at these memes and at these women saying, never depend on a man. Never let a man pay all your bills. Never let a man do this and you need to have your own money. So the woman that is completely taken care of and she actually happy and got a good life. If she keeps seeing all these women praise boss hood, boss hood, boss hood, it's sometimes it's gonna play on her and say, man, I wonder should I do this, I do this. And my wife had to come to a place to where she had peace, to where she found peace within herself. It wasn't coming from me, it's coming from comparison is the thief of joy. So when we look out and we see other people doing this and that. So I remember, one, her and her friend was at the store doing business plans. They was at Starbucks making business plans and they both had an epiphany. And she came home and she said, you know what? Men such and such was sitting there working on our planners on our journals, working on our goals. And it just hit us, we get the opportunity to give 100% to our two children in this season of our life. And so why are we trying to take time away from our kids to do stuff that we can do when our kids go to college? And she just came home with that. And I say, baby listen, whatever you wanna do, you wanna be full time with the kids, you could do that. If you wanna be full time working, you could do that. If you wanna take the MCAT again and apply to med school and we got to move to the Dominican Republic or the Tennessee or the, wherever Texas, Maryland for med school, I could work from anywhere. You could do that. I'm gonna support you whichever way you go. So I had to realize that I got a good woman. And I already knew it. And I see women come who were bosses, who making a quarter million, who making a million. And on the flesh, on the flesh, as a man you gonna think, well, man, if I get a woman who make a quarter million, then that's a quarter million I don't have to make. I don't have to stress, that's a quarter million worth of stress I don't have to have. But you know what I kept finding with the women who was making a quarter million and a million and two million. They wanted a relationship so that they could sit down and build a family. And they want a man to be able to take care of the household. And so I said, okay. So this is the grass greener. I'm like, here go this woman who making all this money and posting all this pictures. And these women got all these other women kicking themselves in mad when nine out of 10 of these women want to be sat down so that they can cultivate the household.  They look outside and they see a facade. They see a woman who is portraying herself to be everything that the housewives and that the working wives are not. And because that woman that he's attracted to she wanna be in the place of his wife. And if she get in the place of his wife, she gonna get comfortable just like his wife is comfortable. Like a wife is supposed to be. A wife supposed to be comfortable. She supposed to be able to let her have down. If she wanna eat some Oreos at midnight, she supposed to be able to do that. The goal of a man is to provide security, not anxiety. So when men talk about they bore in a relationship and they leave because they want more, that is the dumbest thing in the world. Y'all too young or you too immature if you're old. That is ignorant. What you want is a boring wife. You don't want no wife that every day she trying to hop on your pole and your brains out. That's not what you want. Because that's some in her. It's some in her that gotta like that now. Now, okay, yeah, she can have a week. She might have a week like that the way she just really feeling frisky. Then she wanna want you to be her lily pad and she ready to leave. But now every other day, every day, can sit, listen, listen, that right there now. You need a little therapy. I need a little therapy because that thing needs some time to rest. That thing needs some time to rest. And I'm telling you as a man, that thing now and up. Need time to rest too. That thing could get sold. Got too much going on. Hey, you need time to rest. But these men out here looking for a woman that's feeling that rock they were on. And they think, and what they forget is that this woman, yes, she looked like the scary roller coaster at the theme park when you just getting to know her. But after you get to know her, she gonna be the park bench. Just easy, just chill. After you get to know her, she not feeling to be that roller coaster that take you 200 feet in the air and then drop down like that the way your scrotum feel like it and hit your toes because of that gravity. That woman not feeling to give you that kind of ride all the time because she's human. She's not a robot. So you know what I love?  Cause you know what it say to me? My wife is human. She's being authentic because as humans we don't always feel like washing dishes. We don't always feel like doing laundry. We don't always feel like cleaning up no house. That's authentic. That's what you want.  If a woman cook three meals a day, if a woman cook seven days a week, this how you better sleep. If a woman don't put no happy marriage weight on, this how you better sleep. If she don't get a little pudge at the bottom of that stomach, this how you better sleep. Cause she going through some things because that ain't human.   You got to grow up. See it is a little boy mentality to always need to be turnt down. To always need to be going. To always need to have something to do. Somewhere to go. That's a little boy mentality. See little boys, pay attention to the little boys.  I took my son, my seven year old. I took them to my suite at the football stadium. And we was at a, but it was the college game. I can't waste all that money on the NFL game. We was at the college game. And nice chairs in there, capped in chairs.  I'm like, my goodness. You know what they doing? Keep hopping up, keep hopping up, keep hopping up. They got to hop up, hop up. One of them, hey, I got to go to the bathroom. One come, I got to go to the bathroom. All of them going to the bathroom two, three times every five minutes. They going to the bathroom. And you got no pee in them, but going to the bathroom. Keep going to get something to eat. Keep going to get something to eat. Keep going to get something to eat. One of the little boys, God bless the heart. Got him a sprun and threw up all in my sprung. I had to do that thing from the movie what Martin was doing, who saw. And that is that same mentality that's in them little boys. That's what's in the grown men that's leaving a relationship. And that woman ain't cheated on them. The woman ain't cheated on them. The woman ain't disrespect them and curse them out. The woman ain't undermine them. But he see a bigger, he see a new booty. He see a woman with a bag on her. He see a woman with this head on her, a woman with that there on her. So he going to leave a good woman who by his side, because she put on a little bit of weight or a lot of bit of weight. It don't matter where her heart at, where her heart at. Listen, I'm 40, 40, 50 pounds heavier than when I got with my wife. So who would I be as a man to say, oh, because you done put on that's a amount of pounds on board. I want something more. I got to be selfish to get out here in this world in the Lille. I got to be selfish. If y'all know that boy that made that video you went to school with him, found somebody who went to school with him sending this whole video. Man, listen, you got to get it together. Cause listen to me. One thing I could tell about y'all kind of guys, one thing I tell about y'all guys, y'all ain't never really had no women. Y'all ain't never had no women. And that's why you want to leave something that's good to go chase something that's a thrill, that's a fantasy, that's challenging because you ain't had no women. Because one thing, if you a man who had women, he looking for comfortable. He looking for peace. He looking for a boring wife. A man who'd have had plenty of women and then been out there and realized like Ecclesiastes say, it's all vexation of spirit. It's vexation of spirit. He want peace. Listen, I don't want to be turped on all the time. I don't want to be turped up all the time. I don't want to be challenged and have to be arguing all the time, debating all the time. My wife trying to out hustle me. She trying to out business me, out travel me. And it got to be a competition. No, I want her to be able to rest. Now, if she want to grind and she want to do all that, then guess what? I'll be able to see that before I marry her. And if that's how her personality, that's what she want to do. Cause I saw her let her comment that she want her husband to be at home and she want to go out and make a living. God bless him. God bless him. God bless him. God bless him. I would imagine there's heterosexual men who could be stay at home dance. I would imagine. And when I wanted to be a stay at home dad, I was a grown boy. I was looking for a come up. I wasn't a real man. But hey, God bless him on. But at the same time, she has to evaluate that and see if she's saying that out of fear. See if she's saying that because she feel like if a man make all the money, or if a man provide the living that he not gonna let her spend.  Or he gonna up and lead her like these men doing. If you wanna get out here in this world and live, you gotta be selfish. You gotta be smart. You got to have wisdom. Wisdom is your key to a happy life. Like the book of Proverbs say. You got to have wisdom, not selfishness. You got to have wisdom. You see what I'm saying? Come on now, we got to do better. We got to do better. And I'm telling you, listen. The same thing I tell women. When women come to me complaining about they man. I say, listen. Is he cheating on you? No. Is he beating on you? No. Is he abusing me in any way? No. Do we communicate with you? Yes. So what's the problem again? Well, I'm just not turned on. I just don't feel that, mm. I'll say, you know what else you gonna feel with that, mm.  You better appreciate that cool, calm and collected man. The same thing I tell women is the same thing that men need to help. And I'ma tell you. I remember talking to my daddy. And I said, daddy. I was like, daddy, man, my wife won't express herself. Like she won't tell me what's wrong. Like she won't, if we get into a disagreement, she just, she don't say nothing. She just nod her head. She like, she never, my wife has never brought up a meeting. She has never said, we need to talk. Ever. She never said, we need to talk. She never said, hey, I wanna talk to you about this. And I'm nowhere near perfect, but she never have brought anything up because she understand what really matter.  Now she'll say something. Can you please leave the toilet seat? Can you please put the toilet seat back down so I stop falling in there when I had to go use the bathroom in the middle of the night.  I was like, oh man, I must have sleep. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that now. Hey, I'm sorry about that.  And so here's the thing. I went to my daddy who older, wiser. He say, son, he say, you better appreciate a woman that ain't always bringing up nothing. He say, you better appreciate that about her. He say, because you keep begging her, you keep begging her to talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. He say, you might mesh around and get something. You might mesh around and get something more than what you want. He say, that might turn into nagging. The way it's some, a kingdom issue every day. And I say, you know what? You got a point. Because she really showed me how she feels just based on her energy and her silence speaks loud. So I say, you know what? You got a point. And later she let me know. She said, well, I'm not really a talker because I'm a fighter. She said, I'm the type of person that if I'm mad, I'll bash your head in a wall. So I can't say nothing. I said, oh, okay. Okay, I respect that then. I respect that then. That's how you is. I respect that. And that's what I have to tell. That's what I have to tell me. Listen, don't worry about nothing. The number one most important thing in a relationship is honesty, is loyalty. If you got somebody that's faithful to you, and when I say faithful, I mean, the full encompassing of the word, meaning faithful in finances, faithful in love, faithful in word and deed, faithful to you, somebody that is trustworthy. Then what I have to tell these men, when you got somebody that is faithful, that's all you need. That's all you need. Do not go chasing a woman's ambition. Do not go chasing a woman's body, her booty. Do not go chasing a woman's submission. Do not go chasing a challenge. Do not go chasing a thrill. If you got a woman that is loyal, meaning, and when I say loyal, I don't mean dumb. I don't mean weak. I don't mean naive.  She's not deceiving you. She's not manipulating you.  She's not cheating on you. If you have that, don't worry about them extra pounds that she may put on. Don't worry about her edges standing out. Don't all that could be fixed. You could go to Dr. Jim, G-Y-M, work out with her, eat healthy with her, sleep healthy with her. Get us some growth serum for them edges. Get us some mayonnaise and some berries.  All that could be fixed. All that could be fixed. She get dark circles under her eyes, gill-osome, whatever that is, both tops, filler. All that could be fixed. See, today, men leaving over boredom, and we trying to change women like we change cars.  So men wanna change a woman every three years, every five years, cause you want some new booty. Cause he won't, and this the thing. What that young man who made that video don't realize is he gonna go through that cycle until he find peace within himself.     And she gonna make sure she got your life alert button with her. That's what's gonna happen to you. She gonna tip you right down those steps.  You know why? Because you can't play people. You can't leave a good woman, a quote unquote incredible marriage of five years, seven years, 10 years, one year, and then expect the universe. Cause that's what they believe in the universe. They don't believe in God. They don't believe in Christ or Allah. They believe in the universe. So okay, you believe in the universe?  So that now when she go get her hat done, everybody in the salon, the book upside down. That's all, that's all. That's all, that's all, that's the one who, you seen the video, you seen the video? Child, child he love her cause he say he bored. He say he need to be pushed to a high level of growth. Yeah, that's what he said. Look at her, look at her.   Oh my goodness, you know what child, I'm finna pay for her hat dude, I'm finna pay, cause she done lost some more air just since she did that. That's what everybody in the salon doing. This fool went and got online.    But we got to, and see this is the thing with men. As men, we can't be bullies.  And this one I'm seeing a lot of men do. They lead a woman and then wanna sub Twitter, sub post, subliminal posting and all of this. Wanna go live and kick out the house. Wanna go live and kick out the car. Wanna go live and cuss out and talk back about it. Wanna get online and post pictures with another woman. Wanna get online and treat another woman like a queen and post pictures of it to dry the last woman in the ground when the woman ain't even do nothing.  Because she wasn't willing to quote unquote ride or die. This the thing man, we got to do better. We got to do better because listen to me, fellas listen to me, I'm getting ready to go. To every man in the world, and y'all could clip this part of the video and just shout this part. To every man in the world, listen, it's time to grow up. It is time to grow up as men. It's time to stop feeling sorry for yourself. It's time to stop making excuses for yourself. It's time to stop chasing lust, stop chasing a fantasy, stop chasing a thrill and grow up and become a real man and accept responsibility for your life. Accept the responsibility that comes with the vows that you make. Accept the responsibility that comes with the covenant that you make and be a real man about yours because you cannot run from your responsibility.    Learn how to earn your leisure. Learn how to earn your luxury. Use your mind, tap into your mind.   Stop giving that pleasure and start tuning this up right here. Start tuning this up. This high, this right here. When I stopped trying to feed it right here, when I stopped trying to worry about that head and I started worrying about this head, guess what I did? I went from earning $20,000 a year to being a millionaire. I went from earning $20,000 a year to being a millionaire. When I shut that down, that head down and started feeding this one and started saying, hey, I got responsibilities. I got a wife to take care of. And guess what, I don't wanna see another wife more taken care of than her. What I got to do. And I got to be legal. And I got to be in right standing with God. What I got to do to have her comfortable, to have her laid in the shade, to have her peaceful and blissful, what I got to do. Guess what? Your mind gonna serve it up and deliver it to you. I need my kids to be at their best. I need them to have everything that they need. I don't want them lacking anything, what I got to do. What I got to do. This what as men, we got to focus on. Stop trying to plead this down here and start trying to fix this up here. Start healing. Heal from your pain. Heal from your insecurity. Heal from your lostness. Heal from that and become a real man. Go get therapy.  Sit down and talk out your problem. Talk out your pain. Listen, stop listening to grown boys who feeding your narrative and listen to a grown man.      Talk to you a grown man who has accepted 100% responsibility for his life. A grown man who said, I made a vow and I'm gonna stand on that. I have made mistakes, but I'm gonna repent on that. And then I'm gonna change my ways. And then I'm gonna do right. And I'm gonna stand on that. Talk to those kind of men. Talk to men who not running from the work. You know what? It's work to be with a woman. It's work to be in a marriage. It's work to be a father in the household with your kids. It is work. It is a sacrifice because you dying out to your flesh. You crucifying your flesh. Talk to the men who standing on their responsibilities and they not running from the work. Talk to the men who not making excuses for themselves. Talk to the men who not mad with their ex because stuff didn't work out. Talk to the men who not ignoring that he played a major part in making his baby mama a savage. And that's why she a savage by that child support. That's why she a savage by that visitation because of what he did when she put her heart in his hand. He showed her that he a savage. So she had to show him Tuka play that game.   Stop talking to those men and talk to a grown man.   You know why? Cause it's painful. It's painful to be selfless. That's why the young man say he got to go out in the world and be selfish because it's painful to be selfless. It take growth to be selfless. It take strength to be selfless. It's easy to be selfish. It's easy to be selfish. You got to be a man to bite the bullet. You got to be a man to stand on what you say you finna stand on to uphold your vows unless that woman break the vows. If she break the vows, now you got the right to leave because she cross you.  As a man, your word is your bond. You gave your hand in marriage. You told her you gonna protect and provide. You told her for richer or poorer, for better or worse. You ain't worth the shoelaces in your shoe if you can't stand on your word.  You ain't worth it. And guess what? The world gonna do with you.  You ain't serving God. Guess what your universe gonna do with you?   You reap what you sow. That ain't just Jesus Christ. That ain't just holy Bible. That ain't just Quran. That ain't just watchtower, whatever book you read. That's universal law. If a man make a vow to a woman and that woman ain't did nothing to that man and he get bored and talking about he need more in life and he got to be selfish, what in the world you think finna happen to that man?   See, this the thing. Men, as men, and see what I'm just saying to these men, it's women who feel sorry for them. It's women and men who feel sorry for them. Oh, you're being too harsh. Oh, you need to soften up your words. Oh, you need, you hope not talk to people like that. And see, that's the problem with the men of our society is we feel like we could do the worst to a woman.  Cheat on her, dog hug after marriage. It's different if it was dating because that's trial and error. It's different if it was before marriage because that's trial and error. You trying to work through something, both of y'all trying to learn, both of y'all trying to grow, it's gonna be a lot of mistakes made and it's gonna be mistakes made in marriage, but in marriage you gotta correct the mistakes.  What sounds stupid? Come on now, we got to do better. Hey there Tony guys, I can't go across an aisle because it ain't, I'd be hard pressed to get a man to listen past three minutes because it's too much truth, make too much sense. And guess what, that's what the truth, that's what the truth, it's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt now. Hey, we're gonna get them boiled peanuts now, we're gonna get them boiled peanuts and I don't know the website and I don't know if they ship it yet, I'm gonna get them boiled peanuts out to you. And I don't know the website of this shirt either, sometimes I get the website, I post it in the description so if I text my guy and get the website for the shirt I'll put in the description and the guy with the boiled peanuts shipping them, I'll put that description in there too.


Our next topic is a challenge. It's a challenge on invincible companies. And to present that, I want to invite Alex Osterwald to the stage. Alex is the creator of the business model Canvas. And one of the most remarkable things of Alex was his fantastic ability to transform something quite complex in a very powerful educational tool, like the business model Canvas. So now I will challenge you, Alex, to turn our company's invincible in 15 minutes. OK, the stage is yours. Thank you, Alex. Thank you, thank you. OK, so if we can have my slides. I want to start very quickly, because you've been listening quite a bit, thinking a lot.  In an age of uncertainty, sometimes we hear CEOs say, everybody needs to be an innovator. So discuss for a minute. I'm giving you one minute of my 15. Discuss, should everybody be an innovator? Let's go. One minute. OK, OK. Let's continue together. Let's continue together. So can everybody listen? So I'll give you my opinion. Now right or wrong, I'll just share my opinion. I think yes, and I think no at the same time. So let me draw this what I mean with this. So basically the trajectory of a company is very simple. Every company starts with an idea, even if you're Nestle and 150 years old. And the goal is to build a company. So every organization was once a startup. And sometimes we think, OK, when we go from idea to business, so here, idea to business, we need to make a business plan. The problem is business plans are the worst possible document for new ideas. So anybody here who has written a business plan, hands up if you've ever written a business plan, you've wasted your time when it was about a new idea. I'm not talking strategy implementation when you build new factories, expand the sales force. But innovation looks like this.  And maybe potentially if you survive, you have a real business. And there's a whole graveyard of dead ideas that all look good in the spreadsheet and had wonderful, wonderful PowerPoints. So this is what we call the explore phase of building a company. Once you have a company and most of you here in the room, you behind this phase, well, we have a big corporation. So if you wondered what this drawing was, this was a, let's say a $20 billion business, okay? Has flags on the roof and so on, okay? You don't have flags when you're just a billion dollar business. Now what happens to this DNA that we had during the innovation, exploration, or entrepreneurial phase? It goes away because here we focus on exploit. We can call it search here as the verb here, it's manage. Okay? Now we forget to a certain extent how to explore because we found a successful business model that we're scaling or you expand it into different business divisions and all you focus on is making this business here better, which is good, that's not a bad thing. It's just that when the world is changing very rapidly, you probably want to be able to do this at the same time. Now, when you have KPIs that are focused on managing an exploitation and you apply them to innovation, what happens?  So now back to the question, so here we need something else. Back to the question, should everybody be an innovator? Well, there are different types of innovation. Here we have efficiency innovation, better processes, that's good, but over here we have growth innovation, which is all about entrepreneurial action. Those are two different skill sets. So let me just quickly show you what I mean with this. We have two different universes and Rita was talking about this in one of the examples already. We have an exploit world. We have an explorer world and we have a portfolio of businesses. Oh, this is not good. Can we get this on the screen somehow? Well, okay. So over here we have a portfolio of existing businesses. Here we have a portfolio of new ideas. This is entrepreneurship that is management. That is very different. Now I'm just gonna walk you through it since you can't probably see everything. The focus on the right hand side is cost cutting, bringing in management consultants, et cetera. That's not bad, but you also need to focus on growth. Different kind of innovation. Investment philosophy is different. Stock market and dividends and here more venture capital style investment. Different universe. When it comes to culture and processes, same thing. Here we need people who are comfortable with uncertainty, with ambiguity, with not having the data. And Rita was saying, for example, well, if you don't have the data, then don't stop fighting. You need to experiment to figure out that data. Over here where we know the businesses, where we know the customers, there we can talk about data because we produce it. So different universes. And then people skills, probably these are not the same people. Now there's not a brick wall in between. You have people navigating between the two worlds, but some are more entrepreneurial and I think corporate entrepreneurship we've been talking about it for a long time is now really starting to become something serious. The question is, can we do it? Over here, we have rigorous processes, detailed with procedures, that's good.  We have rigorous processes and checklists, okay? So, now we came up with something good that it fits on the screen here. So that we call, and with my co-author that we call the business portfolio map. Where you look at more traditionally, your existing portfolio of businesses and P&Ls, but over here you have a whole new universe of new ideas. And we'll see how they function differently. Innovation here is about improving your businesses, going from product to services for example, over here, it's really about reinvention. Now, if we look at this here on this axis, we have dollars, if this fits in here, same here, dollars, okay? Profitable business on top, less profitable business on the bottom, here the same thing, profitable on top, less profitable at the bottom. Here at the bottom axis we have risk. When a business is very successful, mature and protected, it's up here. But then disruption happens, Kodak for example, got disrupted by digital film.  And they had nothing over here to save them. Whereas Fujifilm actually diversified into something else, into cosmetics. Because it turns out film, aging film, has similar behaviors and requires similar skills and technologies than aging skin. So they diversified. One company became successful or stayed successful, had to reinvent itself, the other company went bankrupt. So you need to more and more manage these two types of portfolios. This is not a new phenomenon, but it's getting stronger and stronger. Okay, now little exercise for you. So let's say we want to create in our companies a new multi-billion dollar growth engine. Just like Amazon did with Amazon Web Services. That's your strategic innovation, okay? How do we implement that? Question to you is, how many projects would you need to invest in as a company? How many, let's say million dollar investments would you have to make? In how many projects to create one multi-billion dollar success? Meaning, up there we want to build something, remember we have profitable and protected, we want to build a multi-billion dollar growth engine. How many projects here, sorry that it was cut off, how many projects up here would we have to invest in to create one success? How many of those projects will fail? So if we say 10, $10 million, 10 projects, each one one million, that's $10 million. How many will fail and how many will know some success? I'll give you a minute to discuss with your seat neighbors how many million dollar projects would you have to invest in to create one so-called unicorn? And how many of those will fail? And how many will be maybe 100 million or 50 million dollar business? Let's go, see if somebody can figure it out, one minute. Okay, let me see. What are your guesses? What would you put in the upper left hand corner? How many multi-million dollar projects would you need to invest in? How many projects? 10, 100, I heard 50, okay? Other guesses? 1,000. 1,000, okay, so that's a billion dollars, okay?  You're investing in 1,000 projects, 80 are gonna fail. So you're just burning 800 million dollars. And your companies are fine with that? Yes. Okay, other guesses? We have 1,000, we have 50, any other guesses? No risk takers in the room, okay? Well, I'll give you the answer. I guess that's what you're waiting for. So the number here is 250 projects that you need to invest in. 162 will be complete failures. That means they won't return any money on investment, complete failures. 87 of those will know some success, but they won't become a multi-billion dollar growth engine. Now what I want you to keep in mind here is that it's impossible to pick the winner to get to that number up there, that one winner. And it's not a surprise that Amazon can build growth engines because they actually have failure, not as a strategy, but as, oops, technology, God's not with me, as an important aspect of their strategy. So where do I take these numbers from? From early stage venture returns. So if you look at how many investments completely fail, you actually have 65% that don't return investment. Zero to one X return, meaning I put in 100, I get less than 100 back. Then you have one out of four that have a one to five X return. I put in 100, I get maximum 500 back. And that usually just makes up for the losses on the left-hand side. So where's that last unicorn? Well, it's four out of 1,000 investments that become a home run, meaning more than a 50 X return. And that would probably not even get us to a multi-billion dollar growth engine. And what I want you to keep in mind here is, these numbers mean that it's not possible to pick the winner. If an entire industry, venture capital, or early stage venture capital can't pick the winners, why do we believe we can make strategy for new growth engines and pick the winners? We can't. There's some aspects of strategy that we can predict, and some we really can't. So that's why you have companies like Amazon, and there's more and more that are becoming Amazon-like, that put the acceptance of failure at the center of their strategy. And Bezos likes to say, failure is something we're really good at. Amazon is the best place in the world to fail. But to finish up, failure over here, when you're expanding your sales force, when you're building new warehouses or managing factories, is not an option. Here we're talking different kinds of innovation, process innovation. Growth innovation requires a different approach. 250 projects down here that we de-risk in order to pick those that will win. So in 15 minutes, if you can build that, and it is possible, you just need to copy Amazon. And that's how you do it. It does require change in culture, in processes, in people, and definitely in leadership and strategy execution. So I hope I could give you something in 15 minutes. Thank you very much.


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Welcome to Building Tomorrow, a show about how tech and innovation can make us all merry and bright. I hope you enjoyed your Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or just plain old day off work with friends. But now New Year's is on the horizon, that time of sincere resolve to change your life next year for the better, and then never using that new gym membership ever again. In that spirit, we're going to discuss the ways that digital tech have changed our routines, but even more significantly, even our basic brain chemistry in all kinds of unintended and often harmful ways. The too long don't read version, your brain's been hacked, and what we should consider then doing about that. As usual, I'm your host, Paul Matzko, with me are Will Duffield and Aaron Powell. To start, let's lay down the baseline. We're talking about smartphone use to get real simple. How old were you guys when you got your first smartphone? To define that, let's say a phone that could and you did used to go online, it's not just like phone text. I mid high school, I got a hand me down Blackberry for my uncle, which I guess was the first internet phone I had. I had Twitter before it actually on a dumb phone, and it was great because it was one of the few ways you could get live news updates through SMS because you could follow like CNN breaking news and set them. It was certainly when internet phones were pretty new because there weren't any limits on tethering at that point. At my high school, you couldn't use the school network for all sorts of gaming, movies, whatever else. I was pulling like seven, eight gigs a month through this tether connection on this slide. I really used it. My first smartphone was less a smartphone and more of a wireless modem. I will now distinguish myself in age from Will by answering. I think I was either 30 or 31. It was shortly after finishing law school, moving out to DC to work at Cato. I got, it was the T-Mobile like G2, one of the early Android phones and it was terrible, but that was my first. I went through all of my childhood and all of my college years and all of my law school years without a smartphone. I did have an iPod touch in law school, which I guess is kind of like a smartphone that only works when you're in the building. You had Wi-Fi though, so you could, yeah, yeah. You had Wi-Fi and you could use the internet, but it was very interesting with that first generation of smartphones. It wasn't an app ecosystem yet. It was basically a miniature, it was a web browser that you could carry around. You could check your email, but beyond that, I don't really remember what functionality. I was making use of. Well, I think for, at least for me, I'm in college is when I have my first smartphone, but the stuff that we associate with smartphone use among, well, especially teenagers now is stuff that you did on a computer, right? So like AOL, AOL Instant Messenger, right? Like that was our version of texting, what I used in high school. Really? And enough of your high school compadres were also on ICQ? My nerdy friends, yes. All of us, fancied ourselves, computer hacker sorts, were on ICQ and there was the competition about your, because you didn't have a user ID, like you didn't have a user name in ICQ. You had a number and it was just a sequential number. So it was like this is the number of users you signed up. So there was the, you know, you were super cool if you had a low ICQ number. No idea what mine was. So I mean, I think what's what's striking about this is that so some of the stuff we're going to be talking about here, we're doing a giant experiment on an entire generation of American, really Gen Z, I suppose, who are the founders is what they asked to be called the recent MTV did a survey of what they'd like their generation to be named and the winning was the founders. Founders of what? What are they? It's not. We've got to wait and see. Yeah. I don't know. That has a little bit too much of like new founding fathers vibe to me. Maybe I've just watched too many, there's purge movies. Yeah. I didn't have a strong opinion of this generation a little bit. I didn't have a strong opinion of this generation until I saw that. And I was like, maybe they could be worse than the millennials. Hey, hey, give us our avocado toast.  We invented all this stuff. You're the missing generation, frankly, there is a version. I'm going to say it's likely, but there's a version of the future in which we just skipped from the last baby boomer president, Donald Trump or let alone Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders next cycle from Donald Trump to a millennial. Well, we're going to get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, you know, it's only only men that have to wait until 35. We should we should get back on topic, as I can see, Tess, our producer in there is kind of working to strut. She's a little restless. OK, so we're back on topic, but we've established that we are older than the the folks who grew up using this technology, right? So like for most of us, it's teenage college, early thirties. Really, the concern here is that there's an entire generation who are from toddlerhood even already using smartphones, tablets, and we're starting to to question what the effects are on just kind of basic human psychology from using these devices at that young of an age. Some of the stuff I and I think particularly how they're used at that age. What do you mean by that? Well, well, it's it's one thing for a kid to watch TV shows on a tablet. It's another for the tablet to be treated as a pacifier by the kid's parents. It works wonderfully. There's does. I'm sure it does. But the context of that use feels unhealthy. You're supplanting some means of care with that that Netflix tablet. And sometimes you're really exhausted. That's just I haven't been a parent yet. It's going to be a trip. Well, I'll share an anecdote. My partner was out on the walk, saw a young mom clearly exhausted, pushing a pram with like a one one and a half year old sitting in there, holding her mom's phone, watching, I don't know, blues clues or something. Right. And the question was who is self who is self soothing here? And the answer is they probably both are, right? Like you're a tired parent, you just give them the device and they're quiet and content for like an hour and and you need that, right? But there's all kinds of like when I call this a grand experiment, it's because we don't know during a developmental stage what this will do to these kids patterns of thinking, patterns of even socialization. Like it's one thing when you adopt this once your neural pathways are already relatively formed, like Aaron's pretty much in concrete by the by the time he gets a phone, he's 31, his brain is functioning the way it's going to function, right? And even in your 20, changing him now, no, it's can't teach an old dog new, new smartphone tricks. I think the saying, but the reason why I think folks are concerned is because when you use these devices, it's an active device. Yeah. So it's not just like watching a screen, but that activity has been designed by developers to encourage kind of basic primitive chemical releases in the brain. So when you do certain things in your phone, you get rewarded with a dopamine rush.  And that a lot of the software is programmed to provide that. Like they're actually consciously thinking these days. They have, you know, neuro neurologists. They have folks with training in brain chemistry who are working with designers. How can we get folks essentially addicted to maybe probably call that addiction, but get them hooked on using the software and continuing to use it. So I mean, what strikes me is interesting about that in in this context is it's always been the case that product designers want to design products that are engaging, right? And so you want this to be a product that people are going to use a lot because then they're going to recommend it to friends or they're going to want to buy the next version of it or whatever else. But there was always a distance between you as the product designer and kind of the use of the product and the only way to so, A, you couldn't really measure, you know, like if Wired magazine prints out a print edition of their magazine and mails it to people, they can they can measure like are people resubscribing? Are they canceling their subscriptions or submission rates growing? But they can't really see how people are using this magazine. Maybe they can get a sense of like sales for advertisers went up by X amount when this thing went out. But you it's there's this pretty crude, it's pretty crude. Whereas now you have, I mean, they can instantly they can be measuring you in effectively real time as you're using the app and it's pinging back to the server. And it's not just measuring when you were to buy an egg beater, say, after buying it, the egg beater company wasn't making any more or less money, whether you used it regularly or not. But when it comes to Facebook or really anything else with an ad driven model, every minute you're spending there is revenue for the company. Right. But even even if even if it's a sales, like it's a one off sales of the app, they can still they can be measuring this stuff and then they can be tweaking this stuff. And then the difference, the other difference too, is when you buy that egg beater, even if they later are like, oh, there's a there's better ways to make this egg beater and they release egg beater version 1.5, you're not going to get that unless you decide to go out and buy another egg beater. And for a lot of products, we just don't buy new ones until the old one breaks, but they can now push the updates out to you in either real time, if it's websites or close to it, if it's over the air updates. And so you can create these feedback loops, but one of the things that gets lost then, or I guess one of the I think the results of that is that when you are the product designer designing, a product designer has a lot of values they're trying to bake into this product. And so there's there's considerations like you want a product that works well, but also like we want a product that has certain aesthetic qualities, we want a product that has a certain feel to use, we want a product that we can be proud of, like these are all values that exist, but the feedback loop of testing plus instant optimization, I think in a lot of cases crowds out all other considerations in designing the product except engagement. There's I think it's from Tristan Harris, who was an Apple engineer, Google manager, and actually was Google's internal design ethicist was his title. Now he's he's left to basically complain about how terrible these things he helped create are. But he I'm pretty sure it was him who gave the illustration of how on Instagram, they'll they'll track their users and they've noticed that certain users will they respond favorably they engage more when instead of releasing notifications of likes, whenever they happen, so someone like your Instagram post and so you get Oh, that person liked that notification Oh, that person like notification. They've noticed that some people respond better when they cluster the likes so that the dopamine rush is bigger when instead of one every five minutes, you get a batch of five and a half an hour and suddenly five people liked my post and it triggers that dopamine release more powerfully so like they can do that on the fly and I mean it's not some literal engineer for each person calculating that their algorithm their eight artificial intelligence systems are are doing that for you without any kind of human oversight and they just say here's we want to maximize these results track individual people figure out what gets them to engage more and more and more is is that wholly a dopamine chasing story.  I won't get all of those notifications at once. I'll get them in a staggered fashion and for me I you know if I'm getting a couple hundred people chiming in or liking or whatever else get I don't I don't want a constant stream of notifications I'd rather those be packaged and given to me every half hour rather than my phone just dinging constantly so I it's a good thought I don't know I can see other reasons why you might want to do something like that yeah but certainly the in the way Harris presents it feels but I think one of the I mean one of the points or takeaways of this this production cycle is that in the past a product designer would have had to sit down and think about how this product might be used and make those kinds of considerations like say do I think and based on the evidence that I might have which is going to be a little bit rough do I think that I'm going to get more engagement by clustering versus dripping them out at a more even pace and is engagement like is the kind of engagement that creates the kind of engagement I want is it going to have lead to long term less use of the product or is it going to you know hurt my brand reputation because people will feel addicted whatever but now they you don't even need to make that decision you can just be like well what I'm going to do is put out two versions of the app like randomly assign people to buckets and see what works and I'm going to optimize on the measurables because you can then I mean it's nice to be able to go to your boss and say look all the measurables have gone up and it might be the case then to that like will you seem to respond better when they're clustered but Paul you seem to respond better when they're spaced out and so you guys are going to get what you get and from the from some the perspective I mean this causes kind of you can imagine someone who is not a libertarian looking at this someone who doesn't who sees their kind of natural inclination is to see thing to be like well what role could the state play in this like this seems almost like the market breaking in a certain interesting way right because you've got you've got people product designers following incentives their incentive is they want their product to stay in business these are incredibly competitive markets the advertising margins are razor thin so every last bit of engagement is important so they're simply following reasonable incentives but the result in the aggregate is that our phones are filled with these things that have been like laser focused designed to just make us behave like the rat just hitting the thing to get you know the treat over and over again which most of us think is on the whole not a good way to live well it's causing burnout right it's causing but it's you know and like if we could step back and inject other values into the design process we might say like we try to design different products but but each individual actor that you can't be the actor who does that because then it all it means is that your app is just not going to get used as much as the other ones and it's going to go under and so is this a good booster stock price and yeah is this the kind of situation where what you need is an outside third party that has a different set of values to kind of impose and say no you need to you know we need to put a limit on this or you need to pursue other values at the only way out of this kind of vicious cycle that'd be a real twist for a Kato podcast for us to be like actually we do need the state to step that no so I mean it's a is a reasonable line of argument right you can get it's it's logically proceeding from some prior assumptions I think as we look at what's happening though we see adjustment being made without state action and we can talk about that some here me even even Tristan Harris why just mentioned he's part of an organization called the Center for Humane Technology he's joined by the guy who invented the infinite scroll as a Raskin there's a number of former engineers we're all saying wait a second we didn't intend for it to be like this or to get this bad let's roll this back even Apple and Google as we will talk about here in a bit they've started to introduce measures to discourage people to use their products as much functionally and we could we'll talk about that like we're seeing voluntary self-organized organized action so I mean I mean I think that's the libertarian answer is that we don't need the state to do this in fact if they try to do it they'll be super clumsy about it I mean I have to is watching congressional hearing of you know of a Google CEO the other week day to realize how ham fist they shall check out will's Twitter feed during any of these hearings because it's just him banging his head into the desk over and over come by the office and just I hear a bang through my door yeah I can hear it down the hall so I mean there's I mean there I think we can rely on the market to correct its own failure here but in thinking about like is this market failure perhaps but what I think of it what's interesting is to the extent to which it's just human failure in as much as we decided for a variety of interesting historically contingent happenstance reasons we gave a bunch of like 20 something year old often college grads college dropouts they're young most of whom don't have training in the humanities and ethics and philosophy and why or whether you should do things they just have training they have the skill set to make stuff and we told them make things people use a lot and they did that and didn't appreciate the ramifications of it I mean in this so you take take like the infinite scroll that that novel I mean you look at the creation of the interstate highway system or the Manhattan project or I don't think they're that young right I'm more I don't know maybe I'm but let me put it this way so I mean I think Aaron mentioned this in conversation off the air which was that what's different is that the kind of adoption curve so let's say you create a new interstate highway system yeah there's all these unintended knock-on effects for changing designing for a very specific purpose without a whole lot of thought given to the broader second order effects of what you're building right and that affects you know first of all hundreds of thousands of people and then as it starts to reorganize the built structure of America millions of people now hundreds of millions people so there's a curve over the better course of a century of it transform American society you can change you can create the infinite scroll within a year billions of people around the world one generation are using this right so though if there's a skate exponential curve and adoption rates that's going on that's that that's I think significant here you so I think that makes a difference that just sheer scale of adoption speed of it and the fact that you have young folks who weren't trained to think about these questions making those decisions and experimenting we were all the we are all either part of the experiment or the control group and that's that's curious I think that is different and interesting so what do we have so far in terms of hard data on the effects of this I mean obviously again it is all still pretty new but you look at someone my age and I grew up with dial up got a smartphone and here I am today in the app web point web 2.0 environment that so there are some like there's a big longitudinal study and the science is always behind the tech right so but there's a big I think as Harvard is running the adolescent brain cognitive developmental study with like 10,000 plus kids involved so they're going to track and they're going to track basically entire generation of kids who are born into this tech unlike us who got it mid development or later and what the effects are going to be over the next couple of decades so I mean I don't think we're going to have the best data for a while yet but the early results there was a there's been some good pieces talking about the generational order effects I mean I know Aaron you can't you despise millennials but um spies them you know they're doing the best they can in the broken world we've been left we've been left that millennials but especially Gen Z are having less like I guess you call these upsides in a sense they have less sex about a third fewer sexual partners on the average the sexually active a year or two later on the average in high school they take fewer drugs they have less criminal behavior by half then Gen X or or boomers the flip side of that is they also have a significantly higher depression rates a higher suicide rate and this is harder to measure but it kind of goes with the criminality in sex and the drugs they're less there might be less anti- authoritarian which I think is interesting to think through as a libertarian so there's almost then in a nest the sizing effect they don't have rock and roll either the rock rolls dead so the sex drugs and rock and roll is gone for an entire generation yeah I don't know how people like that can turn out okay um how confident should we be that all of these effects are linked to tech I mean couldn't it just as likely be say the fact that they all lived through the great recession watch their parents lose their jobs and maybe have and had less going out money as kids and became risk averse as a result of just watching that collapse I think that's as plausible as the idea that it's all smart phone trip test just pointed out that Gen Z has Halsey does that mean something to Halsey's fun good driving music I have no idea what that is she's like a you know synth pop princess but I think we can all I mean we can bracket the like what kind of scientific data do we have is it is it too early to have much data because we haven't had people who have really been raised kind of immersed in this stuff from day one and also that the causal questions will that you raised of how much of this stuff is caused by the tech versus other environmental things or cultural things or whatever else but I think it's the case that all of us who have a smartphone can recognize our own addiction to the smartphone oh yeah totally but I feel like that's on me recognize like you know so I can I can see how prior to having a smartphone or prior to having a smartphone is good enough that I actually wanted to use it fairly regularly that that early Android phone was not that that I am have a harder time to with sustained focus say like I have a harder time just like sitting down and reading a book for a couple of hours the way that I used to it's probably very good that I didn't have a smartphone in college and law school because I probably would not have done as well like we can the kind of subjective experience is both very real for most of us and appears to be incredibly uniform among tech users so I don't I still can't help but think of it in terms of individual responsibility in intentionality and I could be off base there but I can pick up my phone and I can bounce around on Twitter or just scroll through Facebook without you know aimlessly or I can open the Amazon Kindle app and keep reading whatever novel I was into on my smartphone and it's up to me to choose which of those things I want to do I just often don't approach the use of technology with as much intentionality as I ought to and neither do other people but so let's see that as a techish if we put this put this like addiction question a sense we're kind of talking about like we don't blame addicts as much as we blame there's this sense in which it overwhelms your like you know conscious decision-making process and so we're having an addiction conversation here you put that in other can't read a novel on my crack pipe though right but here so do we blame someone who uses drugs for decision to become addicted to you know opioids right well yeah we do I mean there's individual responsibility but we also note that there's all these structural factors and unintended consequences of essentially the FDA and cartel of pharmaceutical companies pushing opioid use on people as well like I mean so it's both like a structural pipeline issue and individual responsibility and raising awareness and there's all these unintended ill effects so I mean it's obviously not a severe as opioid addiction but if we think of it in that context I think we don't have to choose between yeah it's your fault well for being obsessed with Twitter and you know dunking on I mean it is though it is my fault I ought to use technology better but this is I failed to do so but you can ultimately the agency rest with you and we can say like it's not the tax fault because the tech doesn't have agency it can't make you pick it up I downloaded Twitter and made an account in the first place I could have never started down that back but it's also the case that the environment in which we find ourselves makes can make good behavior however we want to define it or the kind of behavior that we would aspire to easier or harder yeah and so yeah but that's not just the phone environment that's you know how I've architected my Saturday morning if I don't eat breakfast and don't get out of bed and just lay there for two hours two hours in I am much more likely to just pick up the phone and scroll through it if I get up and go for a run and eat a good breakfast the phone doesn't have the same appeal so this this takes some of the onus off off if you will you can rest easy now now so just like I was blaming 20-something-year-old under aware designers for doing things they understand the second-order effects of well that same thing is true of us like we have it it's not like we were aware that oh if I use this tech it's going to really drastically change my daily experience in my brain chemistry until really last couple years we're starting to wake up to the fact that oh every time I get a notification there is a cortisol response my body pumps a chemical into my brain that it's the fight-or-flight hormone and the cortisol so every time I get that notification my body says oh you got to do something and it was just why you reflexively look at your phone when you get the notifications and the companies structure those notifications to try to trigger either dopamine releases from good ones cortisol triggers from from bad ones and that builds in a kind of base level constant routine anxiety now we when you made a decision to use any of those apps you were aware of any of points you didn't have the knowledge you needed to make an educated decision in that regard right and one I can use the app without getting the notifications all the time you should turn the notifications off and frankly it's rather amusing that with this panic about brain hacking and tech addiction the one notification now you struggle to turn off on your phone is the one that pops up every day telling you how long you've been on your phone yes but we that's information we have now or in the last year or two 2016 no one's talking about dopamine and cortisol and the effects of infinite scroll and the effects of right like this is a new conversation how you made use of some app and think about whether it's healthy or not if you're on Tinder say and you're matching with people but you aren't really sending the messages you're just getting a little warm glow knowing that someone likes you because you don't feel like going out whatever you can look at that and say I'm not using this in a very healthy fashion I don't think I need knowledge about how dopamine is rolling around my brain to make to draw that conclusion but this brings up the other thing we talk about which is this and what you raised in response to the like shouldn't there be a law question about the tech companies starting to bake into because so one of the things is you have to recognize like part of realizing you have a problem you know and so the hi Android and IOL it's have in you know in recent updates have baked in applications that will tell you how long you've been using a given app how long you use your phone how often you pick it up how often you unlock it that kind of stuff and even even someone who's kind of subjectively aware of oh I'm on my phone a lot the first time you get those numbers they're presented to you like today you spent X number of hours on Twitter and opened it up once every six minutes or whatever you're it's just it's like mind blowing and you just are kind of embarrassed and hope no one sees those numbers you know in the same it's the same reaction is when you know you used to hear these stats about like how much the average American watch TV and you'd be like God how can anyone possibly watch that many hours of TV and then it's like you're doing three times that much Twitter every day you know so so the tech is I think before it was it's harder to know and especially when you're in bed and environment so when I take the metro home or take the bus home from work each day every single person it's rare to see someone who isn't on their phone and so you're in bed environment which is kind of acceptable or the fact that all of us during the half an hour we've been talking have checked our phones multiple times is on airplane mode I have checked the time and nothing else you can all check it still is checking the phone so yeah this is you know where we're kind of we're so embedded in a culture that does this and so then the question is can the tech push us back out of this by by giving us by I mean this kind of nudge of like well you're using it too much or enabling me in the you know Ulysses asking his men to tie him to the the mass to the ship right like like I know that I lack the willpower to overcome this so what I want you to do apple is lock me out of Twitter after 20 minutes each day oh and you've you've long had you know been browser apps that will keep you from visiting certain sites while you're trying to study one I mean very minor marginal design feature shift in the latest generation of pixel phones that I I'd like from this perspective is it'll give you an option to turn notifications off when you set the phone face down and and there's a nice physicality that accompanies that sort of do not disturb functionally it's healthy to build in breaks I mean all these things are whether it's your phone your your your I watch Apple watch Apple I'll say I'll have an Apple watch that saying hey take a minute to breathe you'll live 20 years longer around a thousand years longer forever if you do or it's your app telling you I think test don't you have a does your phone tell you to get off at 1030 or something like that hi guys yes my app tells me at 1030 it's time to go to bed and usually at that time I'm scrolling through Instagram so did you set the 1030 yeah yeah I have it set for at 10 o'clock it reminds me it's almost bedtime and at 1030 my screen shuts down and it shows this little what would you call it the sand thing oh yeah yeah the timer saying it's time to go to bed in your screen time is done for the day when you get the 1030 does it read the the children's storybook go the fuck to sleep I mean oh whoa this is a family podcast wasn't thinking that I said that yeah is it though is it I did recommend diapers no but you can get that on YouTube now so no but it also gives me the option to like extend my time on whatever app I'm using by 15 more minutes and then in 15 minutes it tells me to go to sleep like the opposite of a snooze function yeah like that yeah I think the where it can get very interesting there is when the application will actually incentivize you with reference to your in-app goals to log off for a while you think about something like the rested experience function in World of Warcraft when when you're offline it'll build up a bar of double experience and while you're playing that that doesn't build up so the idea is that you know don't don't binge it take a few hours off and frankly you'll be benefited for doing so so I mean it you know in your right like we're building in break systems a way of incur of incentivizing nudging people into getting off their device getting out of a program and spending some some time IRL in real life and and and this is of this is voluntary it's not requiring state action I think that's encouraging from a libertarian perspective but this is a very old concept if I can take a moment to step back and put on my historian hat so it's history time which is just like hammer time but with way worse pants better pants this was a question actually in literature so if you go all the way back to the 18th century it used to be that writing didn't have chapter divisions that was actually somewhat unusual so you wouldn't divide things into chapters it was just one long you know litany of words and one of the innovations in the early novel was we're gonna break that up we're going to divide it into chapters which incentivizes nudges people into taking a break so Henry Fielding who's an 18th century novelist said quote those little spaces between our chapters are an in or resting place where he may stop and take a glass or any other refreshment as it pleases him so they're like this is this this idea of this as a tech is pre-digital it is very old the idea of when people are engaged with with some kind of mode of entertainment or any kind of engagement really it is natural from a design perspective to build in breaks and that in so doing even though it discourages sheer quantity of engagement it makes it more sustainable and more enjoyable for the user so functionally what Google and Apple all these companies are doing in response to these concerns are implementing four-century old tech into our devices which I think is kind of cool right it's a very old conversation being applied in a new way I think the whole conversation is is quite old outside of technology it's also difficult to live intentionally to be mindful of how you're interacting with others making use of technologies etc it's not localized to the smartphone it's hard to be a virtuous person what did your your kind of literature structure as tech it it reminds me it can go in the other direction too I'm reminded of the crime novelist Ed McBain or Evan Hunter as it was his real name he wrote under that and Ed McBain but he he talked once about how he would try to structure paragraphs to make the page easier to read so that the the reader just like kept going because the text because it's you encounter a giant block of text and it's like a hurdle to overcome you read it slower or you lose your place so if you break things up in certain ways or you have the dialogue flow in certain ways he figured out he get his readers well so I mean you've got the in plus how do how with most crime novels they still have chapters how do they end the chapter a cliffhanger right so you want them to take a break but you want them to come back I'm sure we could think of tech corollaries for your smartphone yes you know Google might at 10 30 tell tests to to go to f the sleep but next morning it's gonna have a bunch of notifications just paying away come back tests come back it makes that sound I assume no because my notifications are turned off except for my Kato notification you're so bad you guys are texting me at 10 o'clock where's the podcast and I don't know you're so much better than you're so much better than me tests the so okay so we have these responses to this problem design choices being made maybe on another kind of on another angle to take on this our program specifically designed to help us be more to use will's word here mindful mindfulness software am I using is it mindfulness is that the phrase yeah and like there's apps that help you meditate I understand there and that there's an app that will that promises to enlighten you at like booted like levels within the day or two I'd probably not that's such a promise would be hard to fulfill but yeah no there's I mean then there's the tech that is so so far we've been talking about tech that addicts us or tech that kind of makes us unmindful in the way we're approaching things and then ways that the tech can kind of place stop gaps to prevent us from going down that road but then there's this whole line of tech that is supposed to kind of elevate our level of focus and our level of mindfulness and so yeah you see I mean some of those popular apps in the app store are these guided meditation apps a headspace is probably the the most popular one and there lots and lots of people use them they make a ton of money you know executives in Silicon Valley like encourage employees to use these sort of things I might my mini rant about them which is why you team this up because I haven't made this ramp before is guided meditation apps are if you're if your goal is kind of the sort of mindfulness that meditation is supposed to cultivate so so this generally like Buddhist practice of mindfulness meditation focus on the breath that's called pasana if that's your goal mindfulness like guided meditation apps like headspace are just don't don't bother they're not so because these these are techniques this kind of focus thing is a technique that takes 90 seconds to learn it's very easy it's just focus on the breath and when your mind drifts away focus on the breath and when it drifts away focus on the breath and so having you know having someone explain it to you like a you know a five minute guided meditation that just gets you here's how it kind of works is all you need and then the these apps they're like well you're there here's a 10 minute meditation on leadership it's like no what you're listening to is a soothing slow-paced Ted talk on leadership while pretending to meditate so it's like one of those things out of it like a movie from the 80s where they pop in the cassette and it's like you are a strong and powerful person be a leader yes yes so it's it's affirmations or something but it's not it's not mindfulness meditation and it's it's certainly is not helping you improve your mindfulness meditation because i think it's actively interfering with it so if you're you're serious about pursuing that just get yourself a timer and sit there and focus on the breath but there are ways that tech could be used to help if not improve at least gauge the efficacy of meditation i mean all of this yeah so this is the kind of out there you know that the 10 20 years down the road of where does tech is away not only that you know tech right now kind of interferes with our ability to focus and live mindfully which is the the theme that a lot of people pick up from from all of this then you can see kind of almost you want to call them sci-fi stuff but they're not that far off which is like if if focus focus is just a mental state right being being in a state of focus of mindfulness of like awareness of non-distraction or whatever you want to call it is simply a brain state and we can measure brain states then you can imagine all sorts of crazy like bio feedback like think yourself into this state and the machine will kind of a buzz or give you some indicator when you're there so you know very clearly oh this is what that feels like and as you drift away okay that's what's drifting it away and as you drift towards okay that's what and and you can imagine it like radically accelerating our ability to cultivate these kinds of traits and mental states that like a metal detector for enlightenment beep beep beep you're getting close right are those things the Scientologists detect emeters they don't need to go there but yeah so you could see I mean this is the interesting thing is I think I think that when the that it feels like the era we're in with this kind of technology with smartphones with apps with social media with kind of addictive tech feels incredibly pervasive right now it's everywhere and it feels like this is just the way things are and it's just going to get worse because like these people are going to figure out even more sophisticated ways to get us using their stuff but I suspect that in 10 or 20 years this this culture that we live in of like everybody on the bus staring into their smartphones all the time and like the moment you get on to the elevator the first thing you do is you're riding up three floors because you've got that extra 20 seconds of time is pull out your phone and you know reload the Washington Post or whatever like that's going to look incredibly bizarre to people not too far into the future and they're just be like what we're wrong with these people like they just it's I think that this this problem will be solved it'll probably be solved both through cultural shifts through kind of awareness as we all you know suddenly become aware that this stuff is addictive in a way that we weren't five years ago or at least weren't talking about and as they the underlying technology and as the people who are making this technology say oh I forgot there are other values that matter and their values that matter not just to kind of me as a human being like I don't want to be creating a world where everyone is addicted but also as consumers start to say I don't want to buy tech that's simply addicting me I want to buy tech it's like these are features worth paying for to have tech that's going to help me out or is it was not going to just not a dick me but maybe even take it further and help me in these regards and so I think that this conversation to some extent in 10 years is going to look kind of silly yeah yeah well and we're at kind of peak concern right like we're at that inflection point where folks are just on a kind of mass level starting to wake up to oh this yes I've noticed that when I get off you know social media I feel happier and when I engage I feel miserable but like that's a real problem that we should think about collectively and do something about like we're at that peak we're start entering that peak inflection moment we're going to start to do that we're going to start to kind of solve the problem um it's not I'm actually reminded of a previous bit of a tech panic I guess we could call it which is the concerns in the 1950s and 60s about pinball machines well that actually would fit pinball work it's going to corrupt the whole generation and so god you state power to stamp out the pinball machines no I was thinking market marketing basically madmen the madmen of you know that modern advertising was going to corrupt our minds we were they used the word brainwash in the summer anyways we were basically being brainwashed by advertising we were against our will there's nothing you can do they're so clever and how they can manipulate sound and image and ideas to create captive audiences and we're all mindlessly consuming and the modern ad man is is the god of tech consumption tech fix that with uh they live glasses and then you can see the advertising zombies and avoid them you're fine that's right um well but it's the same kind of thing like there was a moment of peak concern and functionally everyone said hmm this is a problem maybe we should be more why and like we're not worried about that to the same extent because we all kind of wise up as a society right we're not as mindlessly to the following advertising like the folks were worried about in late 40s and early 50s and I think the same thing can apply here and just as we look back about those concerns as being a little bit paranoid now folks will do that down the line like you're saying Erin I can imagine that um and maybe this should mitigate um one last thought here this is something you shared will was uh an article by John Richardson for the intelligence or the children of Ted this is like kind of the extreme opposite reaction we're kind of saying hey chill out it'll be okay but there's another group who are kind of going the opposite direction just neo-Kazinskyists um the unabomber right Ted Kazinsky yeah and and they see the fruits of industrial society is being if not universally at least um on balance negative or disastrous for humanity um I think there are some libertarian concerns there um though more broadly um there's a naturalism inherent to it that uh is often at at cross purposes with the kind of human liberatory elements of of libertarianism you could almost do a whole whole episode on them in their own right but um yeah so it's not liberal stuff you know when you look at the world do you imagine coming about after the industrial society has been sabotaged and collapses it's uh red in tooth and claw and fairly phishistic in terms of uh how one how a survivor might go through their life yeah well it's something of that that you know uh uh to tune in tune on drop out I'm trying I can't remember the phrase turn on tune and drop out turn on drop out leery's phrase right there's uh we're going description of these yeah proto-kazinskiite willing to use violence to tear down the industrial order willing to kill people in order to do so uh on a massive scale if possible who you know they're going back they're like they're they're camping in the woods learning survival skills learning to be blacksmiths forging their own hatchets there's like this primitive return to nature component to it I'm not sure that's going to uh I mean it's going to remain on the fringe and uh I'm not sure that's uh I don't think many of our listeners are are saying hmm I'm really annoyed with the cortisol response I'm getting from my google apps I'm going to go you know mail send mail bombs to people so I'm not sure just yeah like good good luck industrial society is a hard nut to crack obviously there's some uh potential failure points power grids that kind of thing but more more broadly um I think they've got their work cut out for them and uh thankfully so yeah we don't want to talk about their new year's resolutions for 2019 um I think on that note we have somehow managed to go from um all the way from meditation apps to proto kazinsky bombers uh go figure but uh that's all we have time for today so until next week don't check your phone as much and be well building tomorrow is produced by test terrible if you enjoy our show please rate review and subscribe to us on itunes or wherever you get your podcasts to learn about building tomorrow or to discover other great podcasts visit us on the web at libertarianism.org