s because it doesn't stem from maliciousness. It is a tragedy more than it is a crime story It's certainly in the background that is because like the initial inciting death is an accident. Isn't it? It's not a deliberate Yes murder Which allows for mistakes to be made on the part of the person who will go on to be guilty Which allows for the hero to start piecing things together without relying on grossing competence from the person that they're trying to to root out Which was by way of contrast with madam web where they can play like opposite is the case because the villain is just an absolute clown Actually, um, I was going to mention something that I think there are a couple of stretches in in this film's plot One of them it might just be me not understanding exactly how the events go down, but the The mum is feeding her Essentially a poison to keep her in a more childlike state And what kills her is overdosing on it which happens because she Relinquishes control that night to the housekeeper who doesn't know about the poisoning and so feeds her more of the tea Which I'm all fine with but then they are A little bit spotty on exactly how everything happens next so the housekeeper hears voices And she walks away out of fear of like she wants to go and inspect see what's going on if the Spirits of children around and at that point Because she believes it. Yeah, reina wakes back up and goes to check on her daughter who she finds is dead and then quickly enacts the plan of Putting the mark on her back and then throwing her into the water and then pretending as though she ran off herself and did it I was thinking to myself so Rowena waking back up, which isn't unrealistic I suppose it's just that she had to wake back up in the time frame that the housekeeper both Was away, but also hadn't realized the daughter had died Which you know, the body goes cold Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch and there's a very specific amount of time I don't think it has any cause and effect It's more so just that was lucky that it worked out that way for the story to happen Was Olga maybe getting up and leaving? Maybe her stirring might have woken up the daughter You mean the mother? Who was uh Maybe They don't give you a lot on how it all happened I think the best The faith assumption we can have is she heard voices ran off to inspect them and her running woke up the mum who then checked on the Daughter the daughter's dad she fixed her death And then the housekeeper comes back. That's probably the most reasonable way that happens Yeah, I'd say there's there's a level of coincidence there with being the yeah being some of the timing Well, there's one other thing too, which is the housekeeper is described as carelessly putting the honey in the linen closet Had she not done that? There's a good chance that the honey would have been gotten rid of by the mother And thus would not be given to Poirot, which would not tip him off as to the Nature of the honey having done this at least not from his point of view He could still have to summarize that from the flowers. He wouldn't need the honey Yeah, we still have that element the bees in the you know the basement the old hives You know what she'd said about wildflower honey because remember she says I thought my Uh, call it to a bear or whatever. I think it's the idea. She was trying to get rid of any and all possible links to anything related to the poisoning Um, but yeah, you know That's pretty it's pretty tight Upon a row inspection I'm surprised at how much is actually functional considering the amount of Very dynamics we've got going on here for different people doing different things for different reasons who Like I never would have assumed the person who wrote this wrote uh the first two and by that I mean to the screenplay No, that's well, yeah The wrote those and wrote some other films that uh, yeah, no his history is not reassuring He's written a lot of bad shit. He wrote green lantern.  So Yeah, I mean, you know Because it's like, you know one one strong screenplay Well, what's funny is um If someone said like could the person who wrote this film with no other information whatsoever Do you think they'd be a suit for writing a bio shock film? It's like potentially With only this film, but yeah only only considering this film Yeah, because I think right If there if I sense an underlying and clear element of passion for what you are doing that gives me great optimism because that passion For writing can be applied to all kinds of different stories. The worst thing Is probably it's not just what's you know, we got a clear lack of talent. It is a clear lack of caring. That's why Like white TV is just like radioactive when it comes to this involvement and things.  It's like really lame and off-putting Uh, and I guess it's interesting because I don't know that you write something like this If that's the case where you you don't like care Uh about storytelling, you know It's I'm not sure. I mean, you know and look sometimes sometimes a really great film maker makes a bad film and Sometimes a really bad film maker manages to make a good film. It's hard to tell whether it's a fluke or if it's a Delib like all sort of the product a very deliberate thoughtful considered writing But the thing is that this film is a little it's a little too tight Uh to be the kind of thing where I just be like, ah, well, he just locked into it. I don't it's weird Yeah, this one's like weirdly good in the sense of how much attention to detail and care and passion was Pretty much and every single part of the filmmaking, you know Arsenal here the sound design and the visuals and the script writing and you know all the story stuff It's a complete package in terms of giving a shit so Obviously, you know as moller said the next one of these I will be Interested to see when it releases and my expectations will be high.  I would wager a good jillion dollars It will be shit because there is a clear pattern here um But I dare you but the thing is if it is good, we'll be ready for it If it is good, we will be I will I will be stunned and I will be happy. I will be happy and stunned. Yes I'll be like wow. You made something that I liked for the first time. I'll be confused. I'll be shocked Oh, it actually will have been more than a decade I haven't seen waterman, but the last thing I like clear up some confusion Some people are saying like surely the director is relevant too. So kenneth brown are directed all three Two of them. Yeah, I think it's in a bad and one of them is good. What does that mean? It's like, well I guess it could mean a lot of things I have no idea whether or not the writer did a better job or if he did a better job or if Because the fact they weren't working from an adaptation. Maybe they have more time I can't know All I do know Is that this film strikes me as having been made by a different set of people or the same people with a different set of Principles now another question was white. Do you think kenneth brown is like a bad creator? It's like no, I have a huge amount of respect for him both as an actor and as a director, but I can't Deny that some of the stuff he's made I think is shit, but some of the stuff he's made. I think it's pretty cool as well So, you know, I I'm fine with that being the reality It's just it's just curious to see This this combination make three films in a series and one of them is just so different than the other two as far as I'm So in both directorially and screenplay What's curious about it is that the one that has pan now to be fair I haven't seen death on the night. Maybe I'll watch it just to round out the set and also because the memes will maybe be funny Um, but what's interesting is that the film out of the two that I've seen that is the best one that he's made Of these this set is the one that is based on a far lesser known Version and not very directly compared to the adaptation of probably the most well known and well regarded a Puerro story murder on the Orient Express. It's just interesting how um Uh, aside, it's just very it's a very, um, bland film that one is anyway And just like a lot of the way that it's made It almost seems like having a much more distinctive and clear Twist on the formula of taking the detective story and injecting more of the like horror and supernatural elements into it Like doing that just openly calls for a different approach to it because you're trying to create feelings of like suspense um, and uh and uh and horror and um Like dread apprehension these sorts of things are just like it invites Um a different approach perhaps rather than playing it very conventionally Or or it could just be that it's like I starting to get his mojo. He's getting into a rhythm He's figured out how to do the uh his version of her cure pyro Um, yeah, because like I said, I preferred the performance and the writing for the character in this than uh, I did I mean, I thought I'd really like him as a pyro. I gotta say I really like him. Yeah I like him a lot pretty charming. I felt yeah, it feels like he's starting And so something to like I think it's curious is the budget was 60 million around that and the gross world wide was 122 I mean, there is interest for the film Somewhat. Yeah, clearly. I mean, that's not a small amount of money Okay, it's not probably the best that they could ask for but at the same time for a film like this that must be okay I'm not that would have made it one of the few successful Disney films of 2023 actually Uh, this is don't give them ideas stay away from this Disney My bad 20th century studio I I gotta say I don't know if I've rancid about it before but how what the fuck Why would you get rid of the name like 20th century fox would be like, ah, no now I mean 20th century studios. What is that? I don't know I can't explain these things to you but uh It's because it's interesting the budget for death on the Nile was 90 million and it grossed 137 Oh, and this is much more successful one then. Yeah, if that was enough to make this then surely we've got a fourth one on the way I would imagine I do hope so. I mean, yeah But maybe I'll feel differently when I watch death on the Nile of it.  All right Let's not try this again. Shall we Well, yeah 90 million 90 million went that mean that it's a lot of champagne. So You know stuff stuff costs a lot Uh a Niles worth of champagne. That's how I measure champagne actually is in Niles worths For instance, like last uh new years. I had 1.3 Niles worth of champagne It's very oh my it's quite there's quite a lot, but you know, it's a special occasion You know, it only happens once a year Um things went well things went really good Is there anything else you would like to say about this film before we Oh, I am sure there is But I'll throw it out as a minor complaint. They are jump scare in the mirror with the loud noise. That was a little bit I agree. There was no noise at all. No sound. Yes No sound. Have a go at it. It's um, it's not just a sound too It's the nature of like everyone knows this is coming. You know, it's coming.  You're like, oh, don't do it.  There's no And there's no like suit camera focusing in Everything is totally normal. You aren't expecting it. That's the whole point that you aren't expecting it Uh, so just play it.  No, just the budzingas. No, it's just wow. That was really weird. What just happened and you could have his expression Please do more of that. Also. I don't like sudden loud noises.  I don't know about that Uh, that don't make me feel comfortable. Uh those sorts of things um As opposed to the much more conventional silence silence sounds And then you know and then just back to normal It's kind of like at this point. Can we stop doing that? Everybody knows how it works. Everybody knowing movie thing. Yeah It makes me think of your movie as a movie and not like the story experienced Kind of it for that moment. It kind of pulls me out of it.  It's the same thing It's the problem with like modern horror generally is that it goes Way too much on like the guaranteed sort of physiological response to stimuli like it horror is gore and jump scares as opposed to unsettling or Like super even like the the vague supernatural things in in this film which get you sort of uneasy in yourself Which has got much more in common with an old style ghost story than it does with what a lot of the modern horror Words horror genre has become Yeah, slower pace quieter and actually be clever about what you're doing and don't just say Ah, it's disgusting there for it's horrible or made you jump lol.  It's not it doesn't mean that you were scared. It means you were startled Which is a very different thing. Yeah, and it's just it's easy compared to the idea again If you think about a film like The Shining right the gradual building of a sense of unease Turning into like a persistent sense of dread um it's yeah, it's uh It's it's it's lame to just do like the Which I guess is interesting because generally this film does do a good job of um, building a sense of a unease Uh, it's it's a much more like natural and and uh, I guess Lack of a better word a likable sense of unease. It's funny. It's why it stands out. That's Well, perhaps an equally Sort of nitpick level just I didn't like the what obvious use of cg in the skeleton that reveals the bees It's like And it's like Get a real skeleton, but not real bees. Yeah, get a real child. Yeah, just kill a real child You have to wait a few hundred years to make sure it rots the right way, you know I'm just saying make sure you get it right and then bring everyone back I feel like you need to to maybe help with like making better horror films Obviously, there are there are great horror films, but there's a lot of There's damn there's a lot of bad ones Is for people to think about films that aren't uh, I guess what would be conventionally considered horror films that have scary moments or scary imagery um I uh Like it just seems like if there was more of a recognition of the kinds of Horror that will manifest in films that aren't You know, mainly trying to scare you Uh, like a scary expression or certain framing like a shot a kind of shot that is just like uneasy or a certain sound Few or elements of sound design that aren't strictly from like the kind of you know stereotypical horror film That's seeing more of that and then trying to inject more of that into horror films rather than just jump scare Um, or just gore like you were saying as well platoon that those sorts of it just help I don't know what it is, but like jump scares have infected It's also the point as well where you know they're coming which completely defeats the object That you I can't put my finger on exactly why it is Maybe I need to get off of the the weird opium poison thing But like you just know you you're watching a certain kind of film There's a certain kind of shot in a certain kind of corridor and you think uh There's something around that corner.  You're not It's buddy. I guess it was a mini cubric arc It recently rewatched for metal jacket as well And um, you remember the the the scene I guess what you call like the end of the first uh Like portion of the story the first part right with private pile And they are like the expression on his face is is it's kind of it's very disconcerting And it's not like played with all of these loud jump scare cues It's just like this is like a scary thing that's happening here Just getting completely absorbed and brought into that moment without the need to do any crazy jump scares or If we're gonna appeal to this we should recognize There's a reason that they do this and it's because the outlast will be what I come back to is like it works Unfortunately for the vast majority of people they like a bit of a whoa They go, oh, that was scary and you're like was it though? What was that scary or was you just getting grabbed and shaken? We just startled compared to something where you're like, oh, that's uh Man, that's just uncomfortable.   You get bored You're ready to get startled. Yeah, I'm preemptively annoyed at what I know is going to happen Oh, what do you know it annoyed me? I was annoyed waiting for it and annoyed when it arrived Which uh, I suppose what's interesting about the conversation You know, Soma's got plenty of moments that go like oh, oh, jeez. I saw a thing and it scared me But I'm obviously much more amenable to uh to I don't like a lot of jump scares because it's so negative a connotation attached to it But I guess being startled You know when you run over my And these are some of videos I think I can't remember if it was those or if it was the machine the pig ones But the natural jump scare versus the Prepared one being the big room lots of fog.  There it is. You've just Jumped into something and you are scared of it.  I'm just like, yeah, I knew that what else was gonna happen You guys don't do anything else.  Is it the hospital basement? I think it's all flooded. It's really dark No, because I've not played part two. There's definitely a basement thing in part one I think there is Yeah And that that always sticks out as a fairly good example of what you're talking about like you know that there is some Horrible dark shit here and you know, it's going to fuck you up in some way But you don't know precisely what or when and it's the dread of Anticipating it which makes it horrifying more than the actual, you know being mobbed by giant mushroom creatures Like that's a pretty good example of the Diogenic jumpscares, I guess As a really good one the first time You meet the the crawly boys That might unironically be the best movie jump scare in history I think it might be it's it's it's kind of my go-to for Just perfectly executed one Oh my god, well so good someone in chat mentioned the flood and now i'm thinking about No, no, no Next week next week We could talk about in halo combat evolve the the steady reveal of the flood where you're just walking through that's right It's not a jump scare Super interesting because of environmental story telling and the fact that you can navigate the environment at your own pace But walking through the inelaborance of halo and seeing all of the like this weird goo on the walls Tonal build up. Yeah Sound the fact that all the you know covenant We're running away from the place that you're going into and as you're going in all of these breached containment facilities And this weird costs on the walls and everything gradually building up. It's really It's patience, man. Like it's seriously you will be There's a reason why we remember it when that game came out like 36 years ago And we still remember how we feel when we play that and why it works even on a real replay where you get that appreciation of Oh, we're like playing a different video game now. Yeah, exactly. It's a great twist Oh boy, I should do love halo Yeah, next clicker right next week. Yeah Gee fringy don't you make me so eager to Mmm. All right. No, it's good. Well, it's gonna be great Um, it's fair We talk about something we like and then the next we could talk about something that we despise with every ounce of our soul It's just a little bit. It's it's nature. You know balancing everything out It's give and take We there's probably a lot about there is a lot about a hunting event is that no doubt We have skipped over didn't talk about having it hasn't come to the forefront of our minds as you know As we have these pretty much these ambient mostly unguided the discussions There's a lot of stuff in this movie That yeah, we just haven't brought up. I would highly suggest you give it a watch If you are interested in I would suspensey. Yes suspensey dramatic mystery kind of my estimation Uh, I did like it before watching it But uh, the conversation has brought me over to it is definitely in the category firmly good Firmly in the in the in the in fact very good territory. I think I'd be tempted to say It's uh, I would say it's quite impressive. Yes Yeah, it's uh a lot of work Absolutely, it's just you just full of appreciation for it and you're so glad that it exists As I said, not just as a foil to those god-awful ryan johnson movies But it's it was just a really fun Experience to watch the movie Um, I'm actually going to be curious. I've recommended it to my parents So I'll be curious what they say because you know with people's parents and movies sometimes It's the grab bag of who knows what so we shall um, we'll see we'll see but Good stuff a haunting in venice Let's hope the next one is a real banger Yeah Another one I hope so And now the first time in a while Perhaps we should uh, we can we can read some super chats since this episode is not quite as long as uh As it can be when we're talking about something that's absolute shite Wow a live super chat. This takes me back. Just takes me back to I mean for me They're all you're we're kind of live to to us in a way, but this is a Huh, wow I like this Reminds me of and of course I want to give a chance to mr. Platoon if he would like to um eject since this is a An intermission of sorts completely up to you sir unless of course you had anything else to say about a haunting in venice as well Um, no, I think I'm gonna give it a second watch I think I was probably slightly cooler on it going in but actually this part It's the great thing about being here is that you learn things about it that you didn't pick up on So I think I will go and give it a second try Very much enjoyed it. Yeah, but no, I'm happy to stick around. It's e-fap. You can't quit after That's three hours. That's just right And some people do they end up in jail Well, then I shall get started the first Message is this is what I love about e-fap listening to four men talking about playing with their chickens Yes We have a bit of a you know expectation of that and we didn't want to um upset anybody by not including it Boy Love chickens. Mm-hmm more stellar blade is a girl's game. You should have played mgr The main protagonist raiden is a male raiden, right is a man probably say probably also high dog Hi, oh raiden is the one from mortal combat Raiden is metal gear solid. Correct. Raiden is metal gear solid. Yes. Yeah, and that's right And he chops him up with his sword. I have played I see Revengeance, right rising revengeance is what it's called metal gear rising revenge. Yes. It's a great name. Um garbage title I played a bit of it.  It was great.    I don't know if I've played for I don't think I have I believe he is in that I see I don't think he was in five, which is the one that I put Uh, he was in ground zeroes is like pre-order, uh, dlc. I remember that the you remember ground zeroes But they charge like 40 dollars for her Oh, no, wait, they reduced it to 30, but it was like three hours long In fact, I think I'm overestimating its length. I think it was shorter than that I think about it um Opinions on smiling friends season two premiere I haven't seen it yet. I really enjoyed it. I think it was awesome. I got the ending joke with mr. Boss Wait, wait, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I won't say it, but I know I want to experience it naturally like Spoiling that there's funny jumpscare. It was it was really funny It's a good joke and it was a good episode. I enjoyed it a lot. I'm really excited for season two I'm a big fan of smiling friends, right? I'm I'm very impressed by the general Would like lots more directly injected into the brainstem or whatever. He'll be great Yeah, that would make me ugly good Now let's be real the chat is guilty of being epic also molla I believe I deserve a banning now that I've subbed in double digits Oh, they mean because of the Hassanak. This is actually a reference to now Once you get the triple member digits, that is uh, we don't just ban you We we hunt you down and kill you because that's just inspired by Hassan himself working class andy Yeah For an update for anybody who's not aware of this in the e-fab fandom He's been losing his mind because his audience is shrinking and nobody cares about the creative things According to him that he wants to do He's very angry that there are subreddits that make fun of him for losing Uh, what what I mean a mind like Hassan's what constitutes a creative thing I don't know when I swam he swam something in some some place swam.  Yeah, didn't he start up he's starting a podcast with idubbs or something Like man, you had a the amount of videos about the fall of idubb Dude some people don't even know he was once upon a time the most invincible person on the internet He could literally do anything and he'd be fine like uh idubbs could be the poster child of fall from grace Yes, I suppose boogie has that title right? It's boogie's boogie's boogie's sort of there But because of idubbs was just like super funny Edgy people were constantly quoting him the memes and the gifts were all over the place You had the content cop stuff. He was just this kooky crazy guy that everyone liked and now things are different um, so Not good Main villain of the daisex guy isn't a guy named bob Uh, yeah page. Hmm good. That's right. It could be william, right? Lacky guy william page Well, I guess it'd be full name. Yeah, I suppose Will I am page? hmm Quote spiders are like weird oracles jbo ragsons Interesting. There's some wisdom in that. Oh, I thought of a wise thing The other day it was sometime yesterday I forget when I was thinking and I had a thought and my my nugget of wisdom was You cannot Clean your butthole if you clench While you wipe and I thought hmm There's a lot of wisdom in that All right The more you tighten your cheeks again the more shit will slip through your fingers like that kind of thing Something like that dance. I think okay. I think that is a really good phrase that a lot of people Can draw something from and I'm gonna leave that there because there's a lot of there's a lot of wisdom There's a lot of wisdom in that a lot of themes and when will we get efap gaming hell divers too?  We have played the hell divers too Rather fun game. I am definitely I'm definitely down for the hell divers efap gaming Hey guys, I'm turning 21 tomorrow. I'm gonna try some alcatisms. Wish me luck Good luck. We don't have plenty of fun Congratulations, you made it to 21 you avoided death for 21 years. All right. Good job Yeah, good job Have fun bringing silent green goo is people it's people I'm glad you addressed the allegations so quickly We have it on a record Definitely not people but Shout out to ross scott's efforts to stop games from getting killed if you purchase the crew at any point Do your part to help stop games from getting killed Stop killing games The crew was a racing game by ubisoft that was like one of those sort of you know shared world You know like how destiny the division they're all All interested in like the shared world thing. I think it was like a shared world always online Racing game that I think recently got its service shutdown and delisted I believe So I presume maybe you would like the idea of making the game still available or something along those lines Well, yeah, I mean keep gaming alive. I am on board of that game is pretty cool But I think they're probably not in trouble in terms of staying alive just staying Good Oh, yeah that Part of the conversation, especially with always online games Uh, my gf and I just broke up. Thank you for a very welcome distraction. I'm sorry to hear that Yeah, that's uh, that's all right though. That's Yeah, that's that's that's what happens, you know out of the thing that we're able to do escapism part of life We uh, we can get you in a position where maybe you can just be thinking about a spooky haunted house where uh, Belgium's active has to solve a mystery Um, I don't know if I would recommend this movie for the situation you're in But it certainly may very well be gripping and it may give you a perspective on life in some way shape or form I would hope you know a good way to take away the wrong lessons from this film They're right, which is if you can't let someone go you should definitely poison their tea. Oh, no, maybe that's not the right lesson to take away Yeah, we'll avoid that one Uh, hello there. Has anybody watched HBO's six feet under it's a family drama set at a funeral home sound familiar Great character work and ending Never never watched that one. I'm afraid No, I haven't seen it. Nope. That's a no from everybody Hello all will there ever be a Chernobyl breakdown slash praise I think it's one of the best pieces of media ever made yet. It gets no e-fap attention to be fair 99.9% of media gets no e-fap attention Yeah, I really like Chernobyl a lot. Um, that's right. We've talked a lot about uh, it's not a lot Yeah, and especially when we watched the last of us it would have come up a fair few times because it's uh, Craig Mazin Yep, I agree that it is excellent But that we have given it attention compared to a lot of other stuff There are things that we think are amazing that we haven't even mentioned on this show probably that's right name one moller Uh, here I go. Here I go button. Are you ready? All right ready? I'm ready. I'm about to say it The man who would be king. I am Oh, yeah I like that movie a whole bunch and I don't think I have ever mentioned it on e-fap before I don't think you have either. I also really like that movie So there you go. All right, Fringy now you I want a film that we've never talked about on e-fap that I really like but it's like top-tier media Yeah, something excellent that we have not mentioned never discussed Like ever in any capacity I feel like a film would have come up at least once if it was a film that we've give it a go Top tier film that we haven't really discussed at all And games be our games games whatever I mean, have we ever done like a full blown? Have we how often we talked about super mario galaxy because I love super mario galaxy I'm sure you've mentioned we've definitely covered videos covering my america Yeah, definitely I'm surprised that we're not tasked with doing something obscure but great you went with mario It's super mario galaxy. It's a great okay, but give me rags you go while I think all right Um, I'm not sure if I ever mentioned it. Let me double check the name though All right, well you're doing that a little bit, too And what do you have you got what would you never reference but you simultaneously think is excellent Um using the word excellent very broadly there was a film on I think I put it on last night Well, it's called the night of the big heat. I think it's called. It's a horror film ish Um with christmas.  Well, and it was one of those sort of things I just sat there and kind of laughed at and in a weird way that's Fun and excellent, so I'll I'll nominate the night of well since you saw it last night That doesn't really the point is It's been out since the 60s. It's it's been around for ages I've thought about a uh It's it's it's a game that I think I may have only referenced once before but it's uh, it's it was It's called road trip adventure on playstation 2 I don't know if I'd say it's excellent But I remember really enjoying it and I feel like that's a game I've never seen get talked about ever There you go. It's it came out. It's uh, it it was fun. It's it's it's like a world Where there's it was cars before cars and interactive Yeah, the cars didn't have like eyes or anything or mouths, but the cars were alive And I lived in a world that was like constructed for cars And you would drive around and go on adventures in this in this world and it felt like it's a really big open world I'm not sure how big it actually was So yeah road trip adventure on playstation 2 And rags, what have you got? Well, I think I've mentioned elite bead agents. I think uh How about mass grade the 2012 South Korean movie directed by choo chang min. I really like that movie a lot. I don't think we've I I don't know if I've ever mentioned it before but it's a movie. I really really like that counts I don't think you've ever referenced it in a way of Like a point of praise or criticism to something else. I don't I'm gonna you have at least I don't think so Yeah, because I can't tell you never know when things just get off-handedly remarked upon as existing I think I've talked about um The princess and the goblin the 1991 animated movie that I watched as a a young lad that I I quite liked a lot There is I have mentioned little Nemo adventures in slumberland Which will be a part of a future EFAP arc But that's all that's all I'll say um I think I have meant I'm trying to think of like um What about final fantasy? tactics Grimoire of the rift the the ds Uh final fantasy game. I I quite like that A lot now you make me think about another game that I think I've never meant I really like pokemon mystery dungeon blue rescue team on uh, nintendo ds I never played those. I never played the mystery dungeon ones. I don't know anything Like a story where you were who became a pokemon and you lived in a world like it was a pokemon world Kind of funny how it's unified, you know the first game. It's like, yeah, it's a world where the cars have a little society Uh, this one it's it's pokemon.   What if you are the lowly You know Pidgey or Caterpie the level two fucker And you're just like a pokemon trainer's first pokemon that they catch And but then over time you grow up To be this really strong powerful pokemon who's got like fame Because in the world it would be that pokemon would be basically as famous as the trainers A lot of the times so you would go from just living in the grass Just being a Caterpie or whatever and then You you your trainer beats the elite for you become a pokemon master You've got fame and fortune and bitches and all that stuff And it's like this from zero to hero journey from the pokemon's perspective Uh that you know, that's certainly a way to look at it, but What about the really heart-rending moment though when you realize that your time is up and you've been sent to the box on the pc You've been replaced by a fucking Dude, that's so many levels because it could be simulated that you're happy and it's like are we where are we what is this is this real What is real about it at the beginning of the efap, but the pokemon world is a world of horror Really, so we just Ah look, I just like I was it's buy some cards for nostalgia man. You know, that's You don't try to abuse nothing of a blast twice Just kind of look at look at hydra pump over here the a brutal pokemon with pressurized water jets on its shell They're used for high speed tackles level 52 number nine if you got hit by blast stories in his cannons I might actually just like tear the flesh from your head. It was really powerful Blast some things that I've noticed especially looking at these original nine cards I'd have to go to the case and pull out the specific ones, but like um, you would have a trio like um, blah a squirtle war turtle blast toys and You'd like the three evolutions and you'd have different illustrators It wouldn't be the same illustrator for all of them So you'd have like ken suge mori has done a lot of art for pokemon And he would do like the first and the third but the middle would be someone else or like the inverse of that Or you'd only do the first two or the last two So the way that they kind of organize this seems odd You think you'd want to have the same guy You know do all three to keep an interesting sort of visual style for the evolution But it's not something that often happens and I wonder how those decisions are made Oh, there's a lot of really good pokemon art Um, I've while looking around for cards shopping for cards um There's a lot of I think magic has like the easily magic has the best uh Card art that I've seen but there's a lot of really cool fun stuff because you you can't really have the same Isle of art on a pokemon card that you can't on a magic the gathering card. It's just totally different vibes, you know So it's it's there's just a lot of great a lot of great pokemon art I just want to say shout out to all the different styles and things that they try They can get downright experimental sometimes and you know, I appreciate that Anyway That's why we haven't covered shinobu Oh blastoise how high is he because now that I've got the card in my hand what how high is blastoise? Do you know?  I It has feet ninches listed on the card That's a sensible thing to use, but I don't actually know what the corresponding thing is. Let's go meters To feet you said 1.8. Yeah 1.8 for blastoise.  He weighs 189 pounds pretty sure my mom is taller than that That's just they're actually specific. They said 188.5 pounds So we got decimals for our poundage here on blastoise Good that they've done that 188 point it is good. It's world world building Do you know what kind of pokemon he is? Or is he his type? Yeah type not just not element or type but like Like kind So not just water No, not water But what what type is he? Like like kind I don't even know what it's actually called like for instance a I think I know what you're talking about right where like the different pokemon There was a type but there was some other description of the kind of pokemon that they were that wasn't Category so like a for alligator is big jaw category.  Well a turtle is not a fish so uh That's it's it's very strange very strange the world of pokemon. I like the idea.   Yeah, which is like yeah, it's a turtle and it's small. It's one foot eight What is that like war turtle?  Yeah Okay, right. So basically it's just the crabs and lobsters and they're they're shellfish I see Isn't that the old youtube video pokemon but with animals instead when monkey evolves into steve from accounting I'm sure that's a thing I think um In the first generation of poke I learned this I learned this the other night That was the other last night. It was last night. I was talking with friends about brand of things pokemon came up only one pokemon in the first generation is a A pure is a is only grass type He's he's pure grass type only one pokemon in the first generation is Do you know which one it was? dragon No dragonite you mean I was close not to be confused with dratini and dragon air But try no though. It's not There's only one fully evolved angler or something or fully evolved. Oh, no, you're right tangola Oh, it was angler. How did you know that? Uh, because I remembered it thinking that's surely not that I thought that was a It confused me at the time because I remember thinking it was a poison thing, but it never was Well, almost every grass pokemon is going to be dual type with poison I think executor Was the the exception to that what basically basically every grass or execute are By the way shellfish are not fish No, you saw last ois Right, that's a separate category blast ois is also not a shellfish. Okay, like even you know Shellfish are not fish. He's nor fish nor he is. He is a reptile. That's right over the head category Categories are important Because you have we set up patterns tiny turtle turtle shellfish Um What was the super chat the the the nature of covering shinobal, um, we praise it and recommend it in us It's just the it doesn't it doesn't get the coverage that perhaps someday, you know what when they have a second one That's when we'll do it shinobal 2 because obviously It's just a matter of time before another one happens. And so then when they make the show about it, we'll cover them both Um shinobal would explain how a turtle could evolve into a shellfish Oh, that's true. Yeah Also, someone there's a lot of fun interesting weird strange pokemon packs out there Someone in chat has one i want to point out the only dragon move in the first generation Was dragon rage which only did 40 damage every time no modifiers So dragons being weak to dragon Was meaningless No, which makes you wonder when people are going through and like all of this stuff is specifically done So it is interesting how that happened Uh, all right, this one says my work here is dumb No Well, you don't know you sending us money is not dumb Maybe they want to be dumb. I think it's great Maybe they want to be dumb. Mm-hmm. Oh, well Well, that's maybe but it isn't Hello fringy mola rags an old platoon. Can I ask you a question? Yes Including that one Well, they said they're another I've asked you Oh That's uh, that's one of those mildly clever things that you could do is you say can I ask you two questions? And then they say yes And then you ask them a question and they're like, what's the other one?  Because I am intermittently mildly clever and everyone loves me nobody. So What are you trying to say? Maybe it's in your delivery.  Mm-hmm. I had a when I was uh, when I was young I had a cut. Well, I still have a cousin when I was young I met a friend of my cousin who could inhale air through his butthole It was very strange. Mm-hmm. You have to like get out of this power I don't know. I can't remember the answer Did he have an uncle that told him with great power comes for responsibility after knowing that I don't want to talk about his uncle after he discovered this power But he was on he he'd have to get on his back and he like lift his legs up and then he He could even suck air through his butt and made the strangest noise But yeah, I could imagine that's not going to make a normal noise Yeah, it was very odd. Um That's one of those superpower. It's one of those powers. I'm not going to call it a superpower But it's definitely a definitely an ultra power Yeah, there's probably a furry out there who's going I'd be curious for little platoon's answer to this before Myself and free share our response because we watched the film recently, but I don't know if it's Sort of reflective of more than just the specific thing they're talking about But they said I recently watched the 1974 murder on the Orient Express and wasn't impressed with it The main problem is that Poirotras trusts all these murderers that the person they killed actually was who they claimed him to be Without any independent evidence proving that to be the case Um I don't have an answer for that because it's been such a long time since I've seen it. I genuinely don't remember. Um, maybe Uh, since I rewatched with ringing the the 2017 vision semi recently one of my many issues is that uh, the character of Is it Rossetti rosetti, I can't remember what the Rossetti was the mole from animal crossing Hmm. He was Yeah, but did he go on the orion express or no? Yeah. Yeah, everyone gets to the town by train So, yeah, it's okay. So the guy from animal crossing, uh, I don't know that they had enough information on him to condemn him We were simply told that was the case And Poirot's POV I think what they want you to do in the film is by the the case was so public The evidence was so clear that everyone just knows definitively that he was a bad guy and he needed to be destroyed um But that's not As satisfying I think compared to knowing Like the audience don't actually find out what his motivation was at least not in the 2017 vision Which I thought was a big miss. It's like surely knowing Like the story is they tell it to remain relatively spoiler-free Feels a little weird. Um, once you get all of the accounts from everybody of what he did it sounds super villain level and um Someone I said about watching it. I was like, what is uh, why did he do it? And it's like, I don't know Unless I miss something. I don't think We get to know Why he's not a nice person. Um, he does speak to a couple people in ways that are very ass holy and what he says to Poirot And the one conversation they have I think is not reassuring of him as a Uh Like a good guy or anything. It's just that when you consider what happens to him And whether or not that should be punished. It's a bit like, hmm That gets complicated I also have seen the um original murder on the orion express Wasn't a big fan of it felt way too on the rails for me Oh my god Be careful there like a lot of people will assume that you actually are not a fan of it Um, well, I mean at the end it does pick up steam. So there is We are sure the people before they were not writing comments about how you misunderstood the film or something Uh No, I'm just I'm just gonna leave that one there. All right instead.   Those are people's lives in there, okay? But because you knew the next time you loaded up that game. Oh God, Mr. Rossetti, he's gonna be there. The game knows. Somehow it knows. Ugh. I gotta deal with Mr. Rossetti outside my- He cared about you. Deep down he had- he had good intentions and it would prevent people from resetting without saving. So it worked. It worked in its own way. They made him a character in universe to refer to like a meta thing. I don't think I've ever seen that in a game actually. I think Rossetti is a is a very unique character in video game history for what he sort of represents and who he is. He crosses the the the barrier between the world of the living and the dead. Just psychomantis in like isn't the first middle of the game when he says he tells you to eject your memory card and stuff. Yeah, he'll psychomantis and Mr. Rossetti are kind of thematically linked. Yeah, he'll sell your data to Google or whatever. Because he's a mole so he can dig straight through to China. He can actually get there faster than anyone else because he can go there in a straight line. The rest of us have to go around the around the whole planet but he can just do straight lines straight through to China. Or actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, please, please do an e-fat movie for Ryan Sky. It's easily the best bad movie ever made and I need your reactions to the ridiculousness. Maybe we will. Maybe. Who knows? The response to HBomber Guy's defense of Dark Souls 2 is an example of a justified premeditated murder. Also, hi dog and frog. Hi.  I just said a bunch of stuff. It's different. But fair enough, Branagh's weird double mustache. Woparo has always thrown me off. It's odd. We had like a triple mustache in the first one. It was horrible. It's a look. It's a look. It's not bad in this one. Two is just enough. It's just enough to be a thing without being overly conspicuous and like too much. It's not too gaudy but it's a little just a touch of fancy.  I think that is pretty much the reason I've never seen a kind of Branagh borrow until this one. Should I look at the mustache look now? No, he took the criticism to heart and lost the crazy mustache from the first one when he went to the second one. So he was like, okay, fine, fine. Everyone's shitting on me for this. Fine. Fine. I won't have it anymore. It's my vision. It's the right decision. He wears it how he likes around the house. But when he gets the knock on the door he rushes to the bathroom to the mirror to adjust his mustache to something more socially acceptable. And then I already know the answer for this. Well, possibly everyone here. Hello, EFAP crew. I wish to know what your favorite John Carpenter film is. I'd asked more previously, but YouTube flizzoned when you answered sad fate. Well, the thing. I mean, it's just it's so clear to me. The thing dominates. I do like the fog. The fog is okay, but it's nothing compared to the thing. Do you know the difference between fog and mist? The thickness. It's how far you can see through it. So that's so I think if you can see through, if you can see at least I think it's a kilometer, then I think it becomes fog. But if you can, then it's missed. What if I can see through it because of my X-ray vision? Well, then I think it's still it is what it is. You're just operating on your special powers. You get to ignore the rules.  I learned that from Lee Mack on an episode of What I Lie to You. What's your favorite John Carpenter film, Rex?  What is everyone's backup then? When the thing gets muted from New York? Sure. I like how I live. Yeah, it's fair. I probably go with big trouble in Little China. I haven't seen that, but I've heard it's very good. I haven't seen either actually. I need to. All right. Do you think that whenever the something bad happens in China, but it's not too bad, all of the people who write news articles have to resist the urge to be like, big China in Little Trouble. I mean, they've probably done that a few times, yeah. Yeah, okay. That's amusing. Though flawed, the Orient Express movie had a better ending than the book. In the film, Poirot is conflicted with the choice he needs to make in the end. In the book, he just makes the choice, and that's it. Still a good read. Oh, got some controversial Orient Express opinions in here. Yeah, I don't remember really walking away from that movie, thinking that it was like greater good or anything. I just, I don't know, it's just, it's fallen out of my mind. Like I know I have seen that movie, but I just don't remember it ever being like, oh, that's a good one you should remember. You know, I don't know. I don't know. Farewell, and adieu to you fair fleamish massives. Farewell, and adieu, you massives of fleam. This is character Michael Douglas making a reappearance. You have fleamish hands, Mr. Massive.  That's a quote from, I assume the film Chickpea Grumbo, I'm not sure. You've got meme hands. And they also said, I agree with Fringy, breast reductions violate the Hippocratic oath. Goodness, all right. I don't recall ever making any comments on that subject. Even though, as we all know, Fringy is, is the, he's the most sexual of the EFAP hosts. But I don't, I don't recall him ever saying that. He just, I don't remember saying something like that. No, just, I don't think I've ever commented on that subject. Smaller breasts can impact the Hippocratic ratio, though. The ratio. What's that? The ratio of breasts to hips. Ah, I see. Yeah. Like the hippo, yeah. Hip. Hot take. If a film or show has too much good things about it, then you cannot say it is bad. Is that a hot take? Is it like a quantity of good? It reaches a quantity of good stuff that it, that no matter how bad the rest of the, yeah, like relative to how much, you know what I mean? Like, how much bad or good? Is he just describing like something that is good isn't bad? Well, because yeah, for it to have a lot of good, too much good, then there's no space for it to be too much bad. I guess like I would agree with that. Because I, I don't think I would describe a movie as bad if it had a sufficiently high amount of good things in it to where I thought the movie was good. Because I'm not going to say a movie is good and bad. It'll be one or the other. But what if it has that it does good, good, good, good, good, good, good, and then it completely does not stick the landing and actually undoes all of the good. It can be complicated. But technically, quantifiably, that's one bad thing to a lot of good things, but it means the film is probably bad still. Well, we normally, we normally say that things are mixed when we talk about that. Yeah. Trying to go by threads, right? Like individual character journeys, how strong is the theme? How does the plot line look overall? Like how much damage does this bad ending do? Is it to everything and everyone? In which case, that could have poisons the entire story almost. You know, it depends. I'd have to have some examples. But I'm inclined to both agree and disagree. Because that's apparently my opinion. I think so. Yeah. Like if there's enough good things, you can't say it's bad because like, yeah, because eventually enough good things means that the thing is good and not bad, right? So it just refers to midnight mass. I was about to say, look, look.  Okay. They're so good. Things get things happen. Oh, boy. Even my yeah. I was talking with some like I mentioned that family trip and I was talking with an aunt and an uncle or an uncle and whatever relatives. And we're talking about midnight mass and some stuff. And I was like, yeah, midnight mass. It started out really good.   God, like it's probably worth me never watching it again.  Like I can't. That's why I can't recommend it. Yeah, it makes it so hard to recommend it because the last episode is that bad. I can recommend Hill House. I can recommend Bly Manor, but I cannot recommend midnight mass. That's how bad it was. What you just said is interesting that you said you could even recommend Hill House that we've got coverage explaining how bad we think the ending to that is. But still. But still, still such quality. Yeah. Also, force Fringy to say his across the spider first opinions and they got a little halo smiley face. Oh, Fringy, what is your opinion on across the spider verse? I think it's got really great art and animation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There you go. You got a perspective. That is his opinion. I agree. I agree with Fringy's perspective. I'm inclined to agree with him as well. So but I'll I'll be the controversial one here and say that I do not like the look of Gwen's universe. I think it's garish. You mentioned that and I'm not sure that I agree with you. That's fair. I know it's totally subjective, but especially when we see all of the other places, I don't agree with the art. Not agree. I don't like the way that her universe looks in terms of its color and detail levels. Otherwise, I can understand how you feel that way. Yeah. So yeah. All right. My face would hurt sometimes when playing Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth because of all the smiling I was doing. Oh. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Hi. I'm Gag to Michael Douglas. And in EFAP 278, I got a great chuckle out of Rags saying, why can't he believe anything? What is what is the context for me saying that? He can't believe anything. I don't know. Actually, I'm trying to think that you've got me curious because just hearing that without remembering the context is funny. 278 was the one before the themes one. I'm trying to remember which one it was. Yeah. So that was, uh, damn it. I feel like I know the, I know what it was. Yeah. Come on, brain. I can't remember two EFAPs ago for some reason. That was, um, oh. He says it's the Acolyte, Algo, Fandom, and... Oh, yeah. Oh, thank you. Oh, yeah. Because I can't believe this, blah, blah, blah, that you said, why can't he believe anything? Yeah, I remember. I remember. Like, yes, you believe anything. One thing they really... There's not much peak fire, right? Then it becomes hard to believe, you know, what is real and what's fantasy at this point. Doctastic and volunteerism, peak fire, bro. One thing they really acknowledge in movies, with very alcoholic characters, is how painful it must be for them to go to... Wait, is there a second half of this? Oh, how painful it is for them to go number two. Oh! Wait, is it painful to... Why is it painful as an alcoholic to go to poo? If you're an alcoholic to go to poo? If you're an alcoholic to go to poo? If... Alcoholics in chat, is it painful to poo? Is it painful? What? Alcoholic to go to poo? How are you thinking, alcoholic? You was funny. I've never heard of this. I've never heard of this. I thought it was the way they usually do super chats when you put, like, you know, one of two. I thought that's what was happening. So it was like, when they go, it was like, where's the other half? It was like, no, just go number two.  Really hard to live that down. Wait, so is it all a reading way too much into that? I read what it is. No, that's confusing. I've never heard of this. I never heard that alcoholism makes it painful to poo. I've never... No, this is news to me. Yeah, this is news to me. No one in my family is an alcoholic, so maybe I just haven't brushed against it. Maybe that's why Randy was having such a difficult time on the pooper. Yeah, maybe. That joke is so funny. Just having Emmy award-winning television series on the screen while Randy is screaming, oh, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. He's trying to poop. I will say that every number two means a number one, but not every number one means a number two. I mean, yeah, obviously on that one, I suppose. I'm sorry, I'm collecting images. We got a rate Skeptile and Weevil. Okay, I'll do, I'll look up Weevil and you can do the Skeptile. Go through that image work. Weevil, I believe, is the first gen. Oh, I know him. Yeah. So here he is. N3, that's, yeah. Weevil? No, Weevil. It's a Weevil. Weevil, yeah.  Weevil. Because Weevil is the cute little caterpillar thing that turns into Beedrill. Yeah. Weevil is, I don't know what a Weevil is, so I'm guessing it's after generation too. I'll show you this. Wait, this one seems familiar. Like we've- I really enjoy Hasmug. I got to go with, what's the first one? Yeah, I'm going with number one. Skeptile. I'm going with Skeptile. I'll look at that, look at his face. Look at his face, he's got an expression. Yeah, the second one is a bit anthropomorphic for my taste, and not in a way that I like. Meowth is my favorite Pokémon. But I feel like Meowth is like special in that they're most human-ish in disposition and kind of like expressions and stuff. The bottom one looks like the face of every animated movie cover, you know, that smug confidence kind of thing. But the first one's a mood, and I like his, I don't know, I like him. I like the big fluffy, I like the spiny tail. I like how he stands, I like his proportions. I like his face, sells it. I just, I love the face. And the bottom is like, oh, you're the- He's so funny, I love it. I really like it. I want to see, what does, what does he come from? He is a Skeptile? He's Greco, Greco, whatever, what's the, that's the, he's Gen 3 starter Pokémons. Oh boy, you can start out with this lad. Well, he, well, you don't start with him.  So he comes from, how do I, from Grovile, final form of Treco. Oh yeah, I've seen this guy here. He starts off as this. Yeah, I like that. I like him. And then he turns into that. Yes, which is another good, I like him. It's almost like Raptory. He's almost like a, like a Raptor with the wings on his little. I like the Gen 3 starters. They're cool because you've got Mudkip and Torchik. We talked about this extensively on one of our Super Chat Ketchups. Talking about a lot of the starting Pokémon for many generations. So some of them really good. Some of them really bad. Pretty bad, yeah. So mixed bag, but I like, I like it a lot. Yeah. We got an extinct animal of the day. Macro Eufractus, the killer Armadillo. And this is an artist rendition. There you go. Oh my goodness. Look at that guy. Look out for him. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to step on him. Looks like the kind of thing you have to kill and fall out. It's like an armored mole rat. A mole rat with an armor, yeah. Brackets, they've called it Armacillo. Armacillo. Yeah, that'd be fine for a fantasy setting. Actually, someone has just sent me a message. Alcohol keeps your body from releasing vasopressin, a hormone that helps your body hang on to fluid by preventing water from going out in your urine. Less vasopressin means you'll need to pee more, but when your body gets rid of more fluid than normal, that can make you constipated. I see. We know the lore. And I agree with the super chat. They need to portray that more in media. This one says, I love Nathan in South Park, that face. Oh yeah, that's, yeah, that's right. He, he's very smug as well. You remember him, right? I don't, I don't think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, because our extinct animal of the day was the killer Dillo, this was posted on my server earlier. This is a pink fairy armadillo. That looks like he's trying to be about 15 different animals at once. I know. And you know what? Right on, man. You damn. Yeah, keep trying. You'll get that one day. And thank you for funny shriek on open bar 89. Also, hi rags. Hello. Yeah, for those who don't know, I was experiencing way too much. God of War Ragnarok is terrible at once. I like overloaded.  The nobody needs to know about it. I was literally just like, oh, because some people got the impression that I was annoyed that someone could prefer the OG games to the new ones. I was like, what are you talking about?  Completely make sense. Especially God of War Three, of which I have expressed many times that I love. But yes, I think that got made into a short on the highlights channel where I was just. Yeah, yeah. It's so many, so many times you can see this. You hear the same thing over and over and over and over again. It's just like, here we go again. Here's $5. Now, can you please do your iconic Gwimbly dance for me? Yeah, here. Just like, let me, my headphones are off. Let me do it. I got to stand up for it. All right. So I got to make a little bit of room. I feel like he is actually doing a dance right now. Yeah, I think so. All right. Okay. You can hear it. There you go. That's the Gwimbly dance. Like, you want to do that? Your foot's got to be back. Click, you can't. Look. You're even teaching you how to do it. You got to turn back the other way, like this. Then, whoa, just to give them, you got to stick that out right there. And then you spin.  It's not there. Then there you go. That's it. Good stuff. I'm going to give that a six. I've seen better, I think. Yeah, it's really good. You've probably seen it before. You just didn't know that was what it actually was. I think it was a really consumable way to later to do it, which a lot of people do need. I've got a thick rug back there. So you couldn't hear the tapping, but you'd see it. I think that was a good Gwimbly dance, I do think. Yeah, it matches up with the way your hands move, which is really the key. This is a message to my future self. You better finish your outline by the time you read this. Also, hi rags. Hello. Well, I hope you finished your outline. Good luck. But don't punish yourself too hard if you haven't. Okay, genius takes time. Shilling for the spiritualism seance meter. Well, thank you very much. Oh, yeah, yeah. Seances don't come cheap. I've hardly seen any marketing for this movie. I'll have to check it out. Well, just after you Dumbos, check out DDLC. I mean, I do recommend it, but honestly, like I said, I only was like, I'll watch it in the background while I'm doing work just so that I get an idea of what they're up to. Because the fact that it was like a Halloweeny one. I was like, that could, I like my Halloweeny stuff. Like I said, it earned my attention the more it's going on. I was like, oh, okay, okay. You're not being cringe. All right, neat. I don't think I would have heard of this if Mueller hadn't suggested that we watch it. And I'm glad he did because I saw it.  I forget which one it was, but at the theater and before the movie was an ad for death on the Nile. But I never saw one for this. So who knows? I'm trying to remember how I knew this existed because yeah, I don't feel like I was marketed about it at all. But maybe it was something somewhere at some point that got me to be aware of it. What's you guys' opinion on the Pirates to the Caribbean trilogy? Aren't there, are there more than trilogy? Aren't there like four? Five. I got such a classic one for a while. Geez, show us what I know. I like the first one a lot. Yeah, first one's great. As far as I'm concerned, it goes really good, good, bad, really bad. Yeah. What's weird is that not only can I not remember how many there are, but I only remember the first one and I think I've seen all five. But after the first one, they in my mind have just been like, they've been blenderized. Kind of like all the Transformers movies. I remember the set paces, you know, fairly well. Oh yeah. Yeah, some of the things I remember. Well done. Pirates to the Caribbean, the mummy and like hot fuzz would be like three of my top vote funnest movies of all time. Probably they just fun. Everything's so much fun in them. Are they still doing that all female reboot? Or I think they're doing a reboot of some kind, but I'm not sure like the nature of it. I'm certainly hoping that they go through with it because boy, I sure have a lot of money. I think. Yeah. It's time for women pirates. It I agree. I adopted a bird and named it Fringold. Though it doesn't have a goo obsession. Oh, well, also rags. Am I? What would you recommend for first AR 15? Oh, I don't know the brands really well or anything. I mean, just your standard kind of AR 15 is the way to go. There's a few things I would recommend, though. I would recommend that you get one that has a rail on top, not one that has a fixed like fixed carry handle sites and a fixed front post. So that later on down the road, if you want to put on a scope or a red dot, you have that option. It's something that I highly recommend that people go for so that if you find that you're really getting into the hobby and you really like that gun in particular, though putting a scope or a red dot on the gun, it changes a lot, particularly a scope with what you can do with it. Now it feels to shoot and how far you can go. So set yourself up for success. Also, you don't have to pay a lot of money for a good AR 15. AR 15s are very cheap. We've had them for a long time. They're everywhere. You don't have to spend a lot of money, so you don't have to break the bank thinking like, oh, I got to spend a lot of money to get a really good one. It's like, no, no, it's an AR 15. You'll be fine. You can buy a cheap one. It'll be just fine. If you're just, especially if you're just starting off getting into shooting, I highly doubt that the MOA accuracy of the gun is going to matter to you. It's going to be more you than anything else. But yeah, go for that is what I would recommend probably more than anything right now at least. So there you go. Oh, also it's important. Make sure you know the difference between 556 and 223 because you can put one in the other, but not the other in the other. So make sure you know when you buy that you're buying a specific one and that you don't put the wrong one because one's interchangeable and one's not. So just know that. So there you go. I've got to say the Pokedex entries you read aren't always accurate. The entries are submitted by the children who own the devices, so they are more hearsay than hard facts. Unreliable narratisms. Listen, if a Pokemon is listed as possibly being able to eat my soul and it was a troll by a kid, I'm still not going anywhere near that Pokemon. Yeah. And I get these from a pretty good site, but I guess it's, you know, I think they mean in universe they're submitted by the children who have devices, unless they mean it can actually be updated by kids on the websites, in which case, yeah, that makes them useless a little bit. I feel like it would be a big element not to allow bizarre misinformation about Pokemon like that to persist in the world.  It's like, what kind of weird are science?  This is going to be our authoritative guide, child, how the world works later.   And that's just how science now works in Pokemon. Is that really? That doesn't seem believable. I got a lot of things about that. Yeah, it's I feel like the Pokemon universe started out as a fun little idea for kids and it had its games and its cards. And then yet there wasn't a lot of planning ahead in terms of how does this world actually function? It just kind of goes as it goes and goes as it goes. And that's just, you know, that's just kind of it. And I don't know. In a way, it's just kind of funky. And there you go. It's just a funky world, the funky nightmare realm Pokemon world is. Finally, Cat 3. And one of these live for once. Thanks for always giving me excellent content to listen to while I work. YouTube platoon. Oh, yeah. Glad you enjoy it. You bet. Absolutely. Sushi's Poirot evolves through the season. It starts as a cozy who done it. The final stories are dark and challenging and the OG actors nailed the tone shift. A good example of modern audience adaptations. All right. I'd be interested to check out maybe some of what I considered the best episodes of the show. Yeah, I'd like to do that. Bunny, how what we discuss as writing refers to more than what's written on the script. Improv, directing choices, etc. It all adds to the story. That is true. We do often try to talk about some more things outside of it, including performance. But we usually try and contextualize it as like how it's assisting the story, as opposed to simply a flare of the dramatic or some kind of, you know, element that we just think is kind of neat that they did. We usually try and talk about why it's assisting whatever storytelling choice they're going for. The Dutch Angles, for example, like I said, some people have complained about them. But I feel like there's a lot of purpose to them in this story to make you feel off-center uneased whenever we're in the spookier parts of the atmosphere of the film. You know, and that's not in the script. Well, I guess it could be in the script as a note, but it's not. All right. Like a script and writing is often used kind of as a bit of an umbrella, catch all term for, you know, the creative decisions of the movie, visual and aural and spiritual. Does that mean it could just have been a really happy accident that he uses the Dutch Angles all the time? And it just so happens that in this film they make sense, but in the next one they won't. Yeah, so I think it is something he does deliberately. I remember in the Thor people talked about how the Dutch Angles were times where Thor was confused or when Thor was, you know, not, like, I'd have to re-watch it to give a better assessment of this. But Branagh definitely likes Dutch Angles and that's OK. I think that they have a lot of use. Yeah. I do think, though, that if Ariadne was the one who directed the film, they wouldn't be Dutch Angles. They'd be Finnish Angles. That's one for the real fans. Funny. Oh, wait, that's the one I read. At Little Platoon, I can't believe you spoiled the end of Poirot.  Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Oh, actually, yeah. You did actually just do that. You did spoil one of the wrongest. It was in the back of my mind as I was saying it and I thought, no, no one's going to care. But now I realize I've just ruined, like, 15 years worth of television show has just gone down a drain because I spilled it all over. If I had a time machine, then I would probably wouldn't spend it fixing blunders like that in podcasts. I'd probably be like, I don't know. I'd probably be doing some other stuff. Hey, lads, a warning. During the Tribulation, don't take the Mark of the Beast, which will likely be a chip.  Uh-oh. A microchip? Yeah, I've heard that the Mark of the Beast could be. It's like barcodes. You know that thing where a lot of like crazy fundamentalist Christian types think that stuff like barcodes and everything are marks of the beast? What about if it's like a donut? Stuff like that. Then I need it. Um, a donut? Like the Mark of the Beast is like a circle? Like a thick circle? No, like a donut. You eat because it's tasty. Oh, I think it depends on how you may be paid for the item and how your currency is being tracked in the transactional process. What if it's like Ned Flanders goes to the donut? Ned Flanders devil that offers it to you.  The problem is how do you distinguish the angels from the devils? That's the thing. I do recall it as a question post. Matt Dillahoney would ask it of Christian sometimes and conversations is he would ask, how are you so sure that God is the good one and Satan is the evil one? Because we never really get their perspective or their say on things. Yeah, when's the devil going to release his book? Telling you, man. Bible Reloaded. Oh, wait, that was a show, wasn't it? Long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. That's right. I'm gonna grab a drink. I'll be right back. Hey, guys, thanks for all the content and keep up the good work. Well, thank you. And I'm sure we shout. The devil Bible. Was there a, that's probably in binding of Isaac, right? There's gotta be. This one just says whoop whoop. What am I to do with this? Crazy. My favorite jump scare is in Castaway. Tom Hanks peeling his bandaid and suddenly the plane flip sideways, plummeting fast. The suddenness serves a greater purpose. Isn't just two seconds of nonsense. Man, I haven't seen Castaway forever. Yeah, likewise. It's been a long time. My memory's wiped of that film. I should see it again someday. I remember being neat. Who doesn't love Wilson? Best character. That was the bull, right? Yeah, well, I said best character, so I figured, yeah. And this one says major look. Truly, you got me. Uh, I'm always loving your steamages. Steamages? Steamages? I'm playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Love it, but would love a Lord of the Rings Two Towers PS2 single or metal two player Return of the King. Do it, please. I did a full playthrough of Two Towers and Return of the King on Super Chat catch ups, like a year or two years ago. They're in there somewhere. I don't know which one it's in, but I did, I did play through all of it.  Remember that era? I think I was just playing through loads of GameCube games. I do remember that era. Yes, a lot of, uh, a lot of double dash. Yes. Random Film Talks video and arcane is amazing, even more in depth than the arcane coverage. If you have seven hours, you should give it a watch. Hearing is take on Huma, Duba, raise it to an 8.5, from an 8.5 to a nine. Huma, Duba. I think all that might be referencing. But yes, um, Random Film Talks video on arcane. I've not seen it yet. I think I watched the first hour, I want to say, but, um, I have to get around to it at some point. Have you seen it, Rags? I've not seen them yet. Wow. You know who Huma, Duba is? That's right. Huma, Duba? No. Okay. All right. Well, uh, best jumpscare for me was RE2, and just opened the door, and I see Mr. Rags about 20 feet away from me, and he turns, sees me, and starts chasing. Yeah, that could work. That's spooky. Especially, I always think stuff like that works better without music. Yeah, because it's just the, the disconcerting with the silence rather than meeting the big musical cue to shock you. Yeah. If it's a really good jumpscare, I'll provide all the sound effects. Okay. That's right. Uh, I like when Fringy says point being, my late best friend said it in a mocking way that sounded like the monarch. Now I say it when the frog says it. Oh, what? Yeah. Venture bros the monarch. Right. It just happens. There's a, a, a turn of phrase that gets in my brain for like a couple of months, and then it'll get replaced with something else once I start to notice I do it too much. It's good to have cycles. Yeah. It's good to have cycles. Yeah. I don't know. It'd be good to just not have a thing that I always say. Like. Nothing wrong with that. I'm going for a little bit. Yeah. It's okay to have verbal mannerisms. You know? Yeah, I suppose. A Super Mario sequel already has a release date, and that can't bode well for quality. How would you have write Mario 2 as an excellent yet faithful film? Uh, isn't it coming out like two years from now? Yeah. And I imagine they plug in a hell of a lot of effort into it. Three years removed. Right. Two came out three years before, three years after, rather the first track. So, you know, Going forward with these big franchises, we are doing so in a post, quote unquote, Disney collapse. So I wonder if that will color a lot of things going forward for these big IPs. My. Yeah. Because it very well might. Yeah, I certainly hope it does.  We need to avoid the mistakes they did. Yeah. Well, what would your broad story be for Mario 2? I think that. Yeah, I guess broad. I don't know about broad story stuff because the story can be all sorts of things, I guess. I don't actually know. That matters. I'm trying to go to it. Yeah, do it. Go to a place and have all the references or have that be a spin off TV show on Nintendo plus. Oh, you might. Nintendo plus. Here you go. I can't handle more. I can't handle anymore. Yeah, I don't know. The I don't know that you're going to be like, when you say like a faithful or Mario Mario movie, you know, because the first one hasn't exactly like copied its basic plot from any particular game. Nor should it necessarily do that. It's complicated to have the perfect Mario film. We'll give it a shot. Like we said, the Mario film was better than I thought it was going to be awful. So I was like, oh, it's not highly cringe. OK, you know. Yeah, I quite liked it. I thought it was a fun movie. I enjoyed it. I smiled a lot and I actually laughed it. We discussed it with little platoon actually, right? Good. That's right. And Tetris and 65. Oh, you're right. I remember that episode. It's the only way I remember 65 exists is because it always comes up in relation to the other two. He's always a good sign for the film. No one remembers 65. Yeah. Adam Driver doesn't remember 65. If he was like, he'll see that. He'll see a poster for it or something. It'll be like, was it me? Yeah, I did that. I did that. Oh, is that? I think he slaps himself. He's like, am I awake? It is a crazy dream. Oy moly, I've returned from Shangri-La where I was enlightened to the wonder that is Iron Man 3. Time for your unbridled praise to spread the word. Maybe someday though, I'll make the video talking about how it's awful because it does come up around so often. You'll be like, you know, I have the throughs actually really good. It's like, no. No. Yeah, it does. Doesn't it? It's like, it's what it's almost like when people try to create the new narrative for something that has already been decided. It's like, you know what? The Marvels was actually, it's pretty good. Everybody skipped it.      I love it. That sounds familiar, but no, I haven't seen it. I do not know of this Inner World. I think it's about that actually, funnily enough. But yeah, I'm not familiar, unfortunately. Fringy's Homeland has a lot of haunting true crime stories, like the backpack of murders in Belanglo? Belanglo? Is that right? Belanglo. I don't know. There's towns I haven't heard of in this country. And the Beaumont children in Adelaide. This stuff scares me more than any movie. Beaumont children in Adelaide.  Didn't Australia once lose one of its prime ministers because he went walking on a beach and just disappeared? Yeah, Howard Malt. He went for a swim and never came back. That was the one. So yeah, Howard Malt. The creator of Yu-Gi-Oh, yeah. What's the creator? What's the story with the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh? I believe that was recently. It was like the last, I think it was two years ago or so. Kazuki Takahashi. I believe his name was the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh. I think he tragically drowned when he went swimming. You know, he went to the Shadow Realm. That's how this works. He didn't die. That's right, that's right. Well, the thing with Howard Malt is that he disappeared. It's not actually confirmed.  He went for a swim and he disappeared. He never came back. Addendum to what I said that I forgot about. Chat was reminding me. He was trying to save someone. I think he's trying to save a kid from drowning. And made an attempt and he drowned trying to save a kid. So quite a tragedy. Yeah, sounds it. He could save others from death. I can't read the next one because of the tone. He ran out of life points. There's the correct reference you need to make. I'm going to read a different one first. Women need to take rags as Hippocratic Oath. I'm not sure what that means, but yeah, okay. Hello, Yves Epis. The venue have you seen letters from Iwo Jima and flags from our fathers? If so, what are your thoughts? I think they're criminally underrated and deserve praise. High rags. Hello. I have not seen those. Iwo Jima, when that coin ace was directed that, didn't he? I think I saw that when I was super young. It would have been when my dad showed me, but I can't remember it. Well, if he directed it, I bet it's really good. I mean, he's pretty reliable, though I haven't seen all of his. He's really reliable. His films. Did you check out Mystic River yet for me? No, not yet. I hadn't seen that before. It's that film's ending without saying anything is so controversial. The amount of discussion on it, I checked out. It's insane. So many people either fall in line with it, feel 50-50 on it or absolutely hate it. Like they'll have this just everywhere. It's kind of interesting to think about.  Rags.  One time, my dad walked in as he was ripping out a loud one.  The correct response. Yeah. Sometimes you just... Yeah. You know? Yeah. You gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away and when to run as the old lyrics go. I like that song. Disney Star Wars is like poetry. It's cringe. I am dyslexic Michael Douglas actor. I thought they were gonna go, it's like poetry. It's cringe. It's like, okay. Sometimes.  All right? You're just talking. It's scary. No, if it's not metrical, it's not a poem. You can have like... No, if it's not. If it's not, if it ain't rhyming, then get that.   Just what is it? Like five syllables? Five, seven, five. Yeah. But it doesn't match at all. High cues are, high cues are cute. Now, if you ain't rhyming, you found your way in here, you can find your way back out, okay? Hi. Any of y'all seen Gummo? Very odd, or Gummo, very odd movie. No. Made less than one out of 10. It's budget back. I wonder what you'd think of it, though. I don't know anything about Gummo. I don't know who is Gummo. Who is Gummo? That's a good documentary title. Or is it Gummo? Gummo? Gummo or Gummo, I don't know. Who Gummo? He is an animal that I didn't wish I knew existed. The tongue-eating louse replaces a fish's tongue with itself. Some parasites, man. I know that one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, same these, yeah.  We could do without, we could not, we could not have those, you know? Yeah, when they came up with that, it was like, actually we're scrapping this one. God's like, no, no, no, no. I worked really hard. He's like, no, we're scrapping this one. We're not putting this in. They don't need this. Yeah, they're like, what are we doing with the unicorns? He's like, not doing it. No, I just, nah, we've already got horses. There's a glitch where they can fly. That's just not, like, it's not wish. Yeah, yeah, apparently only virgins can see them and that's going to be awkward sometimes, so. Hi rags. Oh, that would be, if unicorns were actually a thing and only virgins could see them, you could, like, if you passed by a farm that was like a unicorn ranch, right, a unicorn ranch, and if you were a virgin so you could see them, you could, no, how would you trick someone? You'd say, oh yeah, you could just point to an empty field and be like, oh, it's a unicorn ranch. And just look at the other person and see if they'd call you out on it or not. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. But wouldn't they know in that culture to never react to anything that could be construed as a unicorn? Maybe, but what they would also do is they could use that as an objective line, a standard for what does and does not constitute losing virginity. Like, if you, if you have, if you- Oh, you know what, rags. If you would back constitute.  Oh, yeah. And then if they go, I can't see that. You'd be like, oh, why are you lying, bro? Oh, that guy would be called Gumo. And he would have been screwed up. Gumo. Oh, there is Gumo. Hurry up, Gumo.  Hi rags, what makes a good doggo? Um, often really, first off, hello, but what makes a good doggo is often what makes a good person. You need to have, you know, good solid moral foundations. You need to be honest and you need to be, you know, uphold the, you know, pillars of kindness and responsibility. You shouldn't be selfish. You should look out for the people when you can. You should consider what your talents are and how to use them well, how to make the world a better place. You know, a lot of the stuff that you'd expect makes a good person, makes a good doggo. Pissing on things to monkey territory. That's true. I know many people who do that and all of them are good.  I would go so far as to say this movie is better than the book it was loosely based on. Halloween Party is one of Agatha Christie's weakest novels, IMO. Interesting. Well, I haven't read the book, but I really like the movie, so that's a solid maybe. Interesting.  I've seen people mentioning Monkey Man, so film is coming out. I think a star jump has come out, so I'll make sure some watching it. I mean, eventually, hopefully not too long, we'll get Extraction 3, right? At some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I'll be excited to see that. If reality is anything to go by, it's probably going to get more and more silly. It's unfortunate. That's just how it goes. Yeah, luckily they haven't jumped the shark. The transition from Extraction 1 to Extraction 2 felt like, all right, we are, things are ramping up, but we're not, it's not crazy yet. So, by the way, I'd recommend both Extraction 1 and Extraction 2. As would I. Good action movies. I would recommend them. Sorry to go back to Pokemon, but I must know your thoughts on the wonderful boy that is Sveil. Sveil? Sveil, Sveil. Sveil? S-P-H-E-A-L. If you want to go have a look at that. Is that the seal thing that just, it's like a beach ball, but it has like a seal's tail? I think that sounds weird. Oh, yeah, let me get you a picture. I got a picture of him here. Beautiful. Yeah, I'll get you a picture of all the seals. Isn't there a Gen Bon Bon, which looks like a seal and its name is Just Seal? You kind of ran out of ideas for that one, didn't you? It's Dugong and... Oh yeah, look at him. I like him, yeah. I like him a lot. I'm a big fan. Look, he's a bowl. Oh yeah, yeah, seal. S-E-E-L evolves into Dugong. I like it. I like seal. I like him. I like him a lot. I like, no, sorry, Sveil. I like Sveil. I like it. Yeah, I like him. Look at him. I mean, what else did I just say? He's a cute lad. Looks like he's having fun. I got to look up his Pokedex entry though. Uh, Pokedex. I bet it's... I bet he doesn't kidnap any children's souls in the forest. Probably not. That doesn't seem like him. That doesn't seem like him. But it's always the ones you least expect. That's the rule. I mean, he's got vampire teeth, so he must be a predator of some sort. Also, his eyes are facing forward. Um, let's see. That's a cute observation. Sveil is much faster rolling than walking to get around. Okay. When groups of this Pokémon eat, they all clap at once to show their pleasure. Because of this, their mealtimes are noisy. All right. Yeah, I really like it. There tends to be a general consistency on them rolling and clapping their fins when they are happy.  Yeah. Yeah, Fringy. What time in the morning do you wake up for eFap? Well, the clocks have just changed again, so really early. Back to pain. Very, very early. Very early. Too early, one might say. By the way, Fringy, LEGO released a BTAS set. Pretty neat building it now. Play Prey 2017. Yeah, one day. All right. I'm still upset about Prey too. That's Batman the Animated Series BTAS, right? But also, yes, Play Prey. It is legitimately very good. It is legitimately very good. The Luthan Jedi theory is flawed because it forgets Skeen's line, Sky kyber, look at it glow, appealing to the group, not just Jedi, no kyber. Hi, rags. Hello. Well, I think the theory was tied to the fact that it's his crystal. Fringy, maybe you can help me out on that, because I can't quite remember, but doesn't he give a crystal to Andor?  Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. He gives him like a kyber crystal that he has attached to a necklace that he can hold on to as kind of like his insurance. That's worth a lot of money, so hold on to that. And then when you finish the job and you get paid, I want that back. There is a theory from Rich Evans of Red Letter Media, because he enjoyed Luthan so much, he's very concerned that Disney will ruin him by making him a Jedi, that he was a secret Jedi the whole time. I don't think they will. And his evidence was the kyber crystal and the fact that he holds that stick in a couple of shots that kind of look light-sabery and he worries that that's the setup, because Disney are awful.  Well, what I said was first, I hope not, but secondly, even if he is a secret Jedi, that doesn't ruin him. That is also my opinion. I think that if he is a Jedi, I have enough confidence in Tony Gilroy and the writers and his process that he knew this from the beginning and it's going to be for a purpose. So even if I'm happy to never see another Jedi again, however, I know Acolyte's coming out, so well, life is disappointment. Oh, well, there's an interesting bit of news, isn't it, that Bo Williman, who was one of the writers on Andor, is going to be writing the James Mangold Jedi origin story film. Do you like how it was like said in that post that the guy wrote... And he wrote, yeah. He wrote that. He wrote it in a five-hour prison arc. Yeah, one way out and Luther's speech. Like, I love how universally known it is that those are just well-written. It's just, that's what that is. It's really cool.  Like a movie that I had no interest in at all has now become a movie that I'm looking at like, huh, okay. I mean, that's a really good idea. They should be, if they're smart, they should be offering those guys more jobs. The writing team, the directors, they should be offering them more work, find ways to get them stuff to do. Yes. The Star Wars. Yes. Years. Yeah. Rags' cousin used dead cockroach. I don't know what that means. Just a reference, maybe? I can't remember, I'm so sorry. Maybe, but I, yeah, it eludes me. Hey guys, is there any good recently released horror movie around? I'm starving for good horror. I think we all are. Just saw there was a pet cemetery sequel out. Bloodline, is that any good? Well, I haven't seen it, but... I don't know. Good new horror movies. That is a tough category. Um, good horror movies. It's not a genre. I peruse, really. Yeah, yeah. Trying to think.  It's not a horror movie. It's got some spooky in it. Yeah, yeah. It's got some spook in there. So maybe that'll tide you over. I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I just don't know. Um, what's your favorite Pokemon and ideal team also? Hi, Rags. My favorite, hello. My favorite Pokemon is Meowth. Um, I don't know about ideal team. It'd be stuff like, you know, Venus or, you know, the, uh, Niddo King or Niddo Queen. I've always liked them. They're cool. Um, Rhyhorn's really cool. I like, um, I, I'm mostly familiar with the Gen 1 Pokemon. I like Alakazam. I want a good, oh yeah. He wouldn't, he'd be like, he'd just be like my sidekick. He wouldn't be on like the team of six that fights and everything. He wouldn't let him fight. He wouldn't take care of him. Yeah, yeah. It's not that I don't love all of them equally. It's just, I love him the most equal of all of the Pokemon. Yeah, of course. Um, I like, yeah, something like an Alakazam, a psychic kind of Pokemon. Out of horror. I probably want to, yeah, like a Gengar, something like that. Haunter is really cool though.  Um, and it was really cool. Uh, there was some, some neat, uh, little old comics way back in the day where Ash was, you know, doing Pokemon stuff. So that was neat. Um, I would, yeah, there's a lot of Pokemon I like. Arcanine is really cool. Um, I really like, oh, oh, what is, um, Dragonite is really neat. Gyarados, I've always really thought was super cool. The big mystical sea serpent kind of, you know, guy. But, you know, like that. Uh, I like it. I really like Squirtle. Squirtle is great. I don't think if, if I was in the Pokemon world, I wouldn't fight Pokemon. I, they'd just be my pals and we'd hang out. Yeah, exactly. You know, I'd just be, have a, have a good time taking care of them. Yeah, of course. Or maybe I, I mean, actually, I think we talked about this. If this was the Pokemon world, I think I'd just have this podcast with my friends where we talk about movies and stuff is probably what I would do in the Pokemon world. The fact that there was Pokemon in the world wouldn't actually change, that this is what I want to do and what I enjoy. We would just have to have a sarcastic sassy Meowth as a co-host. It wasn't, uh, uh, there was a game, wasn't there? When Pika, it's basically like Pikachu just watches Pokemon related TV. Pokemon TV. Yeah, it was called Pokemon Channel. It was on GameCants. That's the one. Yeah, they had a, they had a news show on there where it was, it was a Psyduck and he would read the news and he'd be like, Psyduck, Psyduck. And then it would like show the, the news on the, you know, like the little square of like, ah, here's the news story. And I think he wore a suit. I think Psyduck wore a suit. I'm a big fan of Psyduck as well. He's one of my favorite Pokemon. Pokemon Channel Psyduck. Yeah, he had a tie. Looks like he's wearing a tie here. He's got a little blue tie on. He did PNF, Pokemon News. I remember there was, um, there was a, there was like a shopping channel. You remember the, you know, like those shopping channels where they'd be like, oh, this is a, this is a beautiful necklace here and it's available for like 20 bucks. Oh yeah, those. I mean, something, they have that. Is that a thing? That's one of the things I can't imagine that people actually watch. Well, South Park made jokes about it. It was for the, the Cash for Gold like episode where it was about all the people watching that and then Stan calling into his kid. There's a swimming school named after Harold Holt because we here in Australia think we're funny.  A man like went out for swimming and died, but people still make jokes about it. Well, don't worry, Fringy. He could have died on the way there or been murdered on the way back. You know, it's just one of those bizarre instances of like the leader of the country just disappeared. That's crazy. That's wild. It is crazy. Nowadays, you expect them to be watched 24 seven constantly with like security personnel. I can actually imagine, um, like, like if the president goes to the beach, he just has people in full suits and sunglasses on the beach there with them, like running the chase after him as he's running around. Well, I could just imagine like Joe Biden plays golf, right? Like if he was playing golf and then like a tree branch started to fall down, that the secret service guys would whip out like a rocket launcher and blow it up. I think they tackle him out of the way. They just turns to dust. So they're just like, oh, I just like the idea of, uh, I actually, in my head, I was like, is it funnier if it's a rocket launcher if they just fire so many bullets at the tree branch that it disintegrates into nothing? It's funny with the bullets, I think. Yeah, but you're right. I'll pull out your pistols. It's a disaster. They just shoot everything, regardless of context. Uh, boop, boop, boop. I can haiku, dude. Barely an inconvenience.  You see what he did there? He just made a haiku. That was pretty cool. That is cool. That's really, that's really clever. Most of the time, people say that they were introduced to the little platoon via Mola, but it was actually the opposite for me. Thanks to platoon, I now know Mola, Noderotic, and Drinker, and I believe I am for it. Cheers. Hooray. The wonderful circle of life where we share each other's fleams and then everyone gets splashed with fleam juice. Thoughts on the, it's supposed to be, slash always has been silly, slash dumb, you're wrong to compare it to minus one argument about the Godzilla franchise, RE, Godzilla, X, Kong. I was actually speaking to Platoon about this. What they think is happening is a bunch of new fans are coming into their culture without realizing the history of it.  They don't get the pass because you really, really like meaming with them. In the same way that the room, no matter how much people love it, they'll shit, okay? Like, that's just as long as we're clear on this. Like, I'm more than happy to join with the Godzilla fans in laughing. But if you remember, we went through this with King of the Monsters, people were like, you fools, you don't even know what you're talking about.  It is a really bad movie. It sucks, though.    And then I've seen notions like, you can't say that we can't love this. It's like, go ahead and love it. I don't care if you love it. That's not the point.  And the Godzilla fans are especially annoyed because people are comparing to minus one and actually very well rid of Godzilla movies. Well, it's really, it's been fascinating to watch because I keep bringing it up, but it blows my mind that like, I distinctly remember when King of the Monsters came out that people said that that was what they wanted a Godzilla film to be. And then, you know, Godzilla minus one comes out and then that gets pointed to as what a Godzilla film should be, which I think is more apt, obviously. But like, this is erect, like they are fundamentally contradictory as being like what Godzilla should be. One of them's a story. The other one was, no, we don't want a story. We want the big, big lizard to fight the monsters. That's what we wanted to see. I think on any look and go of anyway. That's like 15% of the film is the monsters fighting. The rest of it's the shooting shows. I'm actually doing a video on it because like I'm a sadomasochist and I like bullying bad films and I like being hated for it. But equally it's kind of erotic. So like I'm doing a Godzilla X comedy and making the point specifically that I'm deliberately not going to compare this to minus one because I don't want to have to deal with people saying, oh, you can't compare the films. No, it's bullying. It's too much bullying to compare minus one to Godzilla X Kong. But like you don't need to compare it with a really, really good particular type of film to be able to say that just on every conceivable metric this is a terrible movie.  And if you love the thing, you should probably demand that it's better.  I don't really understand why so many people are so very angry about it. That's the really big like almost lie that's getting told. The idea that we can't maintain the fun of monster fights while also making it good. That's not possible. That's alright. Those two are at odds with each other. The only kind of Godzilla film is like one of the worst Transformers films. Exactly this.  Like people coming in being like, good God, what a terribly constructed movie. They'll be like, no, it's fun. You're not, why are you treating this like this?  The movie is not, I think another notion is like, you're saying they shouldn't exist this way when I love them. And it's like, well, they could be so much better. Why are you so upset about this? There's no reason why you can't have the film that has the big lizard fight but also has characters. Absolutely. It's entirely possible. You could have better films and you would be happier and we would be happier and everybody would be happier. Yeah, like if they say, it's like, no, what I love is watching Thanos Gauntlet, big spiny like swords flying through the air. Everything is absolutely absurd. I love that. It's like, we can still do that better. Still. But you know, it's very hard to do the Thanos Gauntlet worse than the way they did it in that film. I mean, that's some absolutely special nonsense that goes on there. But yeah, you can write the Thanos Gauntlet into the film in any number of ways but just having a guy say, oh, by the way, we happen to have it in the shed. Like, that's not how this is supposed to work.   Just because you got Godzilla on it doesn't mean it's immune to criticism. That ain't happening.  That's definitely. Exactly, yeah. There are things I like in the Bayformers movies. Maybe. Yeah, there are. Well, I would, I mean, I think that the first Transformers movie is probably going to be holding up better than all of these new Godzilla, obviously. Remember, Godzilla minus one is not included in that selection.  It probably is. We're saving it all for naught. We're going to go through it again. We're going to go through them and we're going to tell you exactly how we feel Godzilla fans. Get ready. I don't know.  So as long as it's like got a fun action scene, it's what happened to John Wick, where John Wick gets rated very favourably. It gets rated as being excellent, not just, yeah, it's stupid, but it's got fun action. It gets rated like as a very quality action film. Obviously again, two, three, four, not one. One is actually a quality action film. That's actually another great example. It'll be like, you know, John Wick, two, three, four, they're incredible.   You know, it was like, it was John Wick one that was really cool and had cool action scenes, but was also like a story. This Jurassic World versus Jurassic Park again. Yeah. I mean, the same thing happens. You criticize Jurassic World Dominion and they say, no, it's fine. It's a blockbuster. So it's not going to be good. The fact that it's not going to be good. My kids really enjoy it.  I don't know what's happened.  Watch the original Jurassic Park. That's a really good film. Oh, yeah. It's available. Just go check it out.  Ask for better. Demand better. Anyway, EFAP of Metal Gear Solid 1 when? I don't know if that's ever going to happen again. I don't know about that. None of us are familiar really. I played five and I kind of liked it, but I don't understand the story, so. One of these days, I'd like to meet this apparent omniscient, potentially omnipotent wizard who keeps referencing in his hypotheticals. When we created the wizard, he was for a very specific purpose, and he's just stuck around in our hypotheticals. I love the wizard. I've explained that I view the wizard as wearing a blue coat and having like a blue hat. I don't know why. Does it kind of look like Pius in the community episode where they convince me he's the cookie wizard or whatever?  I agree like him. Please look up Project X-Ray. It's ridiculous. Familiar to you guys? No, I've never heard of this. Bat bombs were an experimental World War II weapon developed by the United States that consisted of a bomb-shaped casing with over a thousand compartments. What is this? This is the...  Each of the thousand compartments contained a hibernating Mexican free-tail bat with a small timed incendiary bomb. What? Imagine being the guys whose job it was to assemble these.  This should have been like an Austin Powers... They should have had Dr. Evil do this, but never explained to the audience it's actually something to happen. Just have it be in the movie like that. Oh my goodness. Wow. How would that work? So they come out of the... I assume these bats are very confused. They jump out of this little canister compartment. They see all of their friends. They have this weird thing stuck to them that they, unfortunately, are not equipped to deal with in terms of its explosive consequences. What do they do? Do they fly into German caves? Wikipedia says they go nest in Japanese houses and then at some point at the predetermined time they just explode. That's actually horrific in the most ridiculous... Dude, listen to this. Conceived in 1942 by dental surgeon turned inventor Lithal S. Adams. The bat bomb was envisioned as a means to set fire to Japanese cities by exploiting bats. Bruce Wayne over here. Oh my goodness. That needs to be in an Austin Powers movie. They've got to do it. Yeah, a little bit. Anyway, it wasn't in Batwoman. It's a Batwoman level weapon, surely. Oh yeah, I mean, I'd put it in there. I mean, it's the thing. It depends on what you want to do. Cringe or Floney, or both. Bats all over Japan, randomly exploding into balls of flame. The Americans. Damn them. Then they're exploding bats. Um, quote, joy, quote, got into that home shopping network life. What's that a reference to? Who? Joy. That'd be the Blade Runner lady. She's called Joy. Well, she liked the channel where they talk about all of these, like, jewelry that you can get. She hosts it. Maybe. I don't know. That was the final super chat of the night, which leads us to the end of the stream. But before we go, little platoon, what are you up to, sir? Where can people find you? What's the newest with the newest of the newest? Newest with new? Yeah, it's probably going to be Godzilla X Kong. Just because. Why not?  I just, yeah, just going to just prepare myself. Hopefully it'll be this week. So yeah, that'll be entertaining as I ignore my comment section entirely. And then it'll be back to the Dune video, because the introduction is done, but the introduction alone is about 90 minutes long. So this is going to, it's a long video. I don't know exactly when it's going to come out, but eventually it will come out. But yeah, that's pretty much it for where I am at the moment. Beautiful. Well, is there anything rags for any of you guys would like to mention? I don't think there is anything that I would like to mention. I think I think I've said enough today. Well, I mean, you know, just working, but I suppose probably worth noting that the EFAP TV episodes for Halo should start a. Not rolling out. Yeah, weekly soon, very soon. Yeah, we're figuring out the timeline on that. Next week's episode will be a Halo season two retrospective. I believe. But I believe we have. Halo. ER, Patricia and TV and John. Yes. And then, yeah, the Halo episodes will possibly follow that. It's going to be bizarre. So we're going to talk about the whole season and then we're going to show you our episodes, I guess. But there's nothing else we can do. And then following that, I guess, will be Rebel Moon or is that close enough to that? Well, there's Rebel Moon, but Fallout, I think starts this, well, that's the start. I think it all comes out this week. Because it's Amazon Prime. So I think all the episodes are out. Listen, EFAP chat, EFAP audience, we've not figured out exactly what we're covering, where, how, when and why. All right, we got to get move everything around, get everyone ready to do editing particular things. But work is being done. People are on stuff. You will receive things. The you got the Warhawk next installment coming, I think next week or the week after next week. So two weeks from now, which will be the three musketeers, the WS Anderson movie. That'll be exciting for you. And then, yeah, just, you know, there'll be a decent arc with the Halo stuff. Once that's all over and wrapped up, I think we'll be heading into, we'll be crossing over with Acolyte at that point. No, Acolyte is in June, so that's a little bit away from now. But Rebel Moon is a couple weeks from now. Yeah, Fallout, I think, is this week. There's probably something I've forgotten about as well. Like it's an upcoming thing. Plenty more on the way. Thank you all for, you know, hanging out. And we appreciate it very much. Thank you for hanging out, Mahler. It's really good to, you know, see you around. It's good that you're here talking to the people. Yeah. You know, it's really good. You know, it's really good stuff. Goes a long way. Oh, we had another message saying, made your look again, which you genuinely did. I did look. Oh, I did look. I did look at that. That's true. Wow. Do I want to click on that icon that they have? Or is that? Oh, God, it looks ghastly. Because I could tell. It is ghastly. That's going to be a spooky weird image by the little tiny preview image. So I like, I don't know if I want to look closer. But yes. Just before we go, I just carried on reading because I was very, very fascinated. Do you want to the pitch, the bat bomb guy's pitch for his idea is also contained in the Wikipedia article. Go for it. He says that the bat is the lowest form of animal life that until and until now reasons for its creation have remained unexplained.  And President Roosevelt responded, this man is not a nut. It sounds like a wild idea, but it's worth looking into. Government, isn't it great? You know what? It's man, it's not a nut. I tell you, if, if this worked really well, we might not have developed the atomic bombs. In an alternate branch of history, the bats destroyed imperial demand. That's me. He does. Our bats are great.  I feel like fascinating. There's no purpose for their creation. God made these bats. So America destroyed. Millions of years ago, God made bats. So that in 1942, they can finally shine. Gorgeous. You know what? I like it. Yes, it's. Hope you had a wonderful night, everybody. We shall see you next time. Do it, babe. That's right. See you later, everybody. Bye-bye. Also subscribe to the EFAP Highlights Channel. Goodbye. See ya. Doodle-loo.