Okay. Go ahead. Great. Hi, everybody. Can you hear me? All right. Great. So Amy asked me to provide sort of a contextual anchor that you can think about as you're learning or reflecting on this somewhat unusual technology of blockchain and smart contracts. And so what I've done is put together a very high-level use case is what I would call it that describes a scenario that is intended to be very familiar, and the idea is for us to from time to time through the day refer back to the scenario so that you can basically have an anchor to evaluate the business context, the legal frameworks that may apply, and the technology. So first of all, what is a use case? Here's an example of a very simple one. It shows a person who's a registered user of some system and the action they're taking is editing an article. So that's a use case. This is a very common method to describe aspects of the system. This nomenclature is unified modeling language, and while it's simple and diagrammatic, when applied completely and correctly, it affords sufficient information to actually verifiably code in any number of languages and application and to traceably test whether the application achieves all of the intended requirements and reflects all of the constraints of the system. So it's got a lot of usefulness for that purpose. Here's a slightly more complex use case that involves two actors going through a food ordering process that you'd be familiar. This is offline. So notice there's an actor, an action, and then see that little box that's a system boundary or a contextual boundary so that we know the facet of the situation we're looking at. This is critical when we're doing a legal analysis. So this is the rudiments of the use case. The one that I selected is, I think, foundational to common law and to modern commercial law. It's purchase and sale of a good. So in the United States, we'd be looking to Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code, and you can extrapolate to the appropriate Canadian canon. So one thing I want to highlight for you is this little method I call BLT. You can remember it because bacon, lettuce, and tomato, but basically the method is to take the little stick figures and the situation and to apply the business context. In business, you might say this person's a customer. That may be the prevailing context. Legally, they may be a consumer. Okay. There's consumer law, and there's a whole context there, technically, they're a user. So we're going to apply this BLT context throughout the analysis. Here's applying it to the other party. The other most important thing is I sort of gave it away in the last characterization, but in addition to these being abstract entities like customer, business, buyer, seller, they're also in a fact pattern that's a legal fact pattern that we can legally analyze to start to predict what the results would be in the event of a dispute, for example, or for some other legal analysis. They also are parties. So when we want to create the scenario, we want to say this is Jane Doe at 123 Elm Street. This is Acme Incorporated, Incorporated in Toronto, something like that. So for this particular use case, this is a use case that came out of the MIT Media Lab a couple of years ago when we were starting with a new initiative to apply legal to try to understand and help evolve blockchain technologies based on a legal perspective. So we're doing this through law.mit.edu and this particular project explored, well first we're going to explore an entire smart contract to see if we could analyze it in a way where we could discover predictable legal results when we probe various questions. And what we ended up doing was actually narrowing it further. So you'll hear more in a moment from Matt about the fundamentals of blockchain technology, but for the moment just know that one of the capabilities of blockchain technology is that it's premised on public private keys that every user has. They create an address on a blockchain. Well, public private keys is great, a key capability of blockchains is that every user will digitally sign transactions and some other actions using their private key. And this creates a signature that among other things can be cryptographically verified so that you know that the thing that was signed was signed by the corresponding key and it also allows you to know whether anything has changed based on hash technology that does a few other things. So what we did was we basically used the public private key pair on the Bitcoin blockchain and the Ethereum blockchain in a standard wallet and after monkeying around a bet and messing around with a crypto, which is a little weird as a quick aside for those of you that are into cryptography, it's not RSA and it's not any other common library that you might use. When we tried to do this we discovered it's, well we kind of knew it was an elliptic curve but it's SECP256K1 if you want to try this at home and so that's what you need to search for when you're looking for libraries or other things to try to make it sign something and that was a whole journey. Anyway, once we finally accessed the private key material and figured out how to utilize it, we just said okay let's say the actors using their blockchain identity with their key pair sign just a simple PDF document with it and the document is a contract for the sale of goods and let's just run that through the system and see what happens if there's a dispute and can we attribute it to the party and what other affordances does it have and then we had a couple of other scenarios where we then said okay let's say they also took that PDF contract, hashed it when it was signed and entered that onto a blockchain so we had some forensic evidence of it and let's say some of the terms in the contract were interested PDF but let's say they're actually being executed in a so-called smart contract so we tried a few permutations of it but for purposes of today let's just stick with the simplest possible case which is you're using the public private key pair associated with a blockchain address you're signing something in commerce is that exactly the same? Is it different? Is it better? Is it worse? Let's play it out. So what we how do you play it out? So what we decided to do is like a little mock trial and we postulated that that the buyers and sellers use this key pair and they effectuated a sale of a used car that was like ten thousand one dollars or whatever the threshold was to get it over small claims court so you could go to you know adult court and actually enter things into evidence and things like that and something went terribly wrong because it's a legal fact pattern and so you know like I just gave the money I didn't get the car you know I gave the car I didn't get the money I got the car it was a lemon something like that and now and what we focused on was admissibility and enforceability of the signature and the contract just again basic stuff what we discovered was a whole bunch of things the first thing we discovered is that it's not as well the the rhetoric around blockchain suggests it has almost mystical properties of non-repudiation and you know certainty and you know it either avoids or somehow resolves before they can ever occur legal issues so that we can you know almost float above these mundane jurisdictional wrinkles we didn't notice any mystical properties what we didn't notice was that it raised and clarified a bunch of specific issues which I want to share with you now and encourage you to think about some of these things as you're hearing about the transactions and other performance and dynamics of blockchain one of them was raised the question of whether the parties had access to somebody who could actually lay a proper foundation in court so we had you know world-class photographers and other people we've kind of assumed various roles for the mock trial and the person that actually coded the system a great great developer named Christian Smith who's recognized global thought leader and identity and digital signatures when we were when I was playing the council to help them lay the foundation we realized well it's easy to just sort of assert that it's immutable but to lay the foundation and ask question after question was actually really complicated and by the time we were like 15 or 20 minutes into just you know the first few steps we realized no judge is ever going to understand this no jury is going to understand it and there's just a very practical question of how do you explain this in an understandable way and what kind of exhibits would you have that would show the salient elements of it Amy in her in her framework is going to clarify some of that but it's a the very first most important thing is to truly understand the capabilities and the functionality of the technology such that you know it cold you can describe it not to other people and not overstate or understate or wrongly state what it does now getting a little deeper there's a question about whether the cryptographic and other verifiable data was correctly aligned to what it is you want to prove later and so some of these on a blockchain typically you'll just see that you know address a paid a certain amount of money to address b well you if there's a dispute you want to fill that out a little bit with you know what was the what was agreement for and you want to somehow link those terms to the thing that happened on a blockchain in this case it wasn't a big deal because you know we had a bill of sale that was a standard bill of sale on the jurisdiction we played the mock trial for then include you know all the correct information you would need to establish the parties and their responsibilities and rights but that is you know that's only to think about more we're going deeper there is a question of whether the purported signatory had the requisite legal well first of all off authorization like was it even their car to sell is a question that doesn't go away because you're using blockchain and you know did they can we you know were they over 18 years old did they have capacity those kinds of stuff none of that goes away by going through the mock trial process somewhat methodically we were able to identify what can we rely on blockchain for and what do we need to apply a more traditional legal practice skills in order to ensure and and then the chain of custody so well on this one a little bit so for the chain of custody I'm just gonna go forward a little bit the most critical takeaway from this was to link the entity on a blockchain to a legal entity so that BLT thing is very handy here and what what I mean by this is basically the legal concept is attribution you can find this in the United Uncitral United Nations Commission on International Trade Law the Uncitral model law on electronic commerce which has been enacted in Canada in the ULCA and in the United States under Uniform Electronic Transactions Act and the E-Sign Federal Act has this concept that we call attribution it's basically attributing an act of a like a digital signature electronic signature electronic contract the act of an electronic agent to a legal party the law takes a common law approach to this in the United States and in Canada and it doesn't prescribe a specific method or litmus test like it doesn't say you have to register it with a particular government entity or then have a registry or use a particular technology it's more that you have to do something that will be credible and convincing later to establish what legal party took a given action technically so the way we did this well we didn't actually do it that well initially we just sort of we just asserted the peep that you know Joe that Alice and Bob the buyer and seller of the car had used their private keys and a given address in the blockchain to digitally sign the contract but then later when I was trying to leave the foundation I realized like oh wait a minute like how do we know it was Bob's key and the first thing that the other person did was kneecap me to say well that's not my client's key like I should have seen that coming but what with this some highlights is you want to have some kind of dual integration so some it's safest way belt and suspenders so I think to do this would be you just imagine there's something in the blockchain address that maybe links to a legal party so for example in Bitcoin you there's a field there that is kind of a wild card field you can put any data in you want you could in an address actually list like this is Acme corporation of 21 Dundas Street you know Toronto Ontario on the on the transaction itself if you were to enter a hash of the contract you could use that field to provide a URL to where you can find the contract and read it that provides a nice link and similarly in the contract itself when we revised this to do a second mock trial which we will do eventually under the first paragraph where we said you know this contract is between you know party of the first part you know Alice Jones who's doing 123 Elm Street comma with this Bitcoin address and this public key and you know Bob Bob whatever Smith at this address with at with this public key and therefore blockchain address now we now we're directly linking a piece of evidence that you can enter about a legal contract and activities that are occurring and entities that exist on a blockchain so we're integrating it both ways just to be sure so those are some of the things that we discovered so in closing when you think about what if somebody was doing this commercial transaction something happened and there was a dispute and whether you're going to arbitration or a court of law they were just negotiating and you know trying to establish your position for your clients for example or for regulators is another spin on this you really want to understand the roles and relationships of the parties one minute not just user a and user b but what are their their legal roles as a consumer employee is it licensee what have you the transactions also just identify the actors and actions in the system and then align those things so you understand the business legal and technical dimensions of what's happening and finally once you've identified the parties it just get it like normal just have a running list of the rights and obligations of the parties to each other what are the causes of action oh this sounds in contract it sounds in consumer law it sounds in securities fraud sounds in what have you and and what are the recourse and remedies so you don't have a right if you don't have a remedy so just think about what those would be in order to legally analyze the underlying transaction that's occurring on or through a blockchain so that's some there you go and we'll come back to this a little bit later thank you very much thank you so much thank you so much I think it is so important just to wrap your head around this use case right as you go through the rest of the day to come back and in your mind think about what you're learning how that's why this is where you say this is thanks to anchor


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The Shelby Valley Wildcats are looking to return to district contender status tonight We take you to Robinson Creek in the huddle with the Shelby Valley Wildcats Wildcats are entering their second year under head coach Anthony Hampton last year The Wildcats went just three and eight the coaching staff worked hard with their young team putting extra time and effort into getting ready for this season Coach Hampton wants to instill a winning tradition with his teams for years to come Just kind of build the program itself and not just have a good team here and there We've spent a lot of days in the weight room trying to avoid injury and getting things ready for the season Well, I mean you got to put on the strength if you ain't got strength I mean you're gonna you're gonna be outmanned every time But we just we bust our tails and not in the offseason. We've left them weights. I mean We come down here and put in work. We've we're still putting in work today. I mean We're just getting ready for the season. This is possibly the most grueling offseason. We've really had I've been through We bust our tail in the offseason, you know up top running in the white room this year The Wildcats do have a young roster on paper But coach Hampton and his team believe there is no disadvantage to that and are striving to win the district title The one thing I tell the kids and they understand is we will not make an excuse We may be young but we'll not make that a crutch when I make an excuse We will do our job and people will step up as long as I'm here The one thing will always strive for minimum as a district championship. There's no excuse being young That's no excuse. We're still expected just as much as the next guy High goals. We just we just want to win as a team play as one unit. We just want to be one unit It's no I it's we I would like to win a district championship because I think we can if you got young guys playing a lot That means you're gonna have a lot of experience once they get a little older So I mean if you have a lot of experience players out on the field It's basically like having coaches on the field So I mean players like that can lead you really far in the playoffs I would like to win a district title and make a deep run in the playoffs Main goal is make it to the district and then make a good run in the playoffs and when we get there It's just one game at a time See how the valley is a great community of great people good hard-working people and just good moral people We're gonna play for you guys. We're we're gonna give it everything we got and we'd like to have your all support We'll try to put our best product out there for you guys and we'd like to have your support Just come out support us. You know we need it you come out more We'll give the best show we can for y'all reporting in Pikeville for EKB sports. I'm Logan sales


Gifted by Mr. Hassan. Gifted? Yes! For who? Both! Really? Thank you so much! For North! Assalamualaikum! Annyeonghaseyo! I'm Dawood Kim. Long time no see guys! Finally, I will go to the north of Pakistan which is the most beautiful place in the world. And before I leave, I came to Faisalabad. Here is a city located in Punjab province. It was named of owner of King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. Then I will show you what happened today. Let's go! So, before I go to the north, I have to prepare the clothes. So, I will buy some shower camis maybe. Yes! With... You need sunglasses? Oh yes, I think so. Walk in. Motorcycle? Of course! You look so tired. Please! Oh, sunglasses! Yes! Oh, very nice! Assalamualaikum! Of course! We have a BMW. But, we are not allowed to ride motorcycles. Faisalabad! Welcome to you in Faisalabad! Welcome to Faisalabad! Yes! And tonight, we are going to north of Pakistan. Yes! North Pakistan! Yes! I love this! I love this! Let's go! Let's go! Oh yes! First time? First time! First time! Oh, Faisalabad! Yes! Yes! This is the famous street to make the... Make close! Yes! Make close! Welcome in today! Which is the traditional... Yes! Very fancy! Amazing! First of all, we will buy fabric. Then we will give our fabric to tailor master. Okay! And our tailor master stitch in few hours. Okay! I get it! So, this is the place that there is a fabric. Yes! Assalamualaikum! We will buy fabric from here. Fabric? Yes! That's amazing! This is fabric shop. Oh! Assalamualaikum! Come inside please! Okay! And choose the fabric! Okay! This is camel color! Very nice! So, every place I go in Pakistan, everyone offers me something to drink or food. So, this is Pakistan's hospitality. Nice guy! Thank you so much! Allah Hafiz! Bye! Hafiz, bye! Americani zazar zazar! Bye! Mujahad bhai! Assalamualaikum! You are my tailor master! You are tailor master! Thank you so much! You are my master! This is the first time I have seen you. Both! He is asking about... Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Tea! Allah! This is right! Oh! Tea is the rule in Pakistan. Thank you so much! Thank you! Thank you! I'm so excited to have new Shahra kamis! My Shahra kamis! Yeah! Mine! Only mine! Mine size! So beautiful! Come inside! Assalamualaikum! Thank you so much! Wow! Dry! Dry fruits! This is my friend Hassan! Assalamualaikum! Yes! I'm the owner of this shop! Hassan! Yeah! Masha Allah! I can eat? Yes! You can eat anything! Yes! Please allow! You can eat! Okay! Thank you! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! Baby is son of Masha Allah! Masha Allah! I made it! Many videos with this boy! Masha Allah! Gifted by Masha Allah! Gifted? Yes! For who? Both! Really? Thank you so much! Masha Allah! Thank you so much! I love Pakistan! Choudhury! Choudhury! Choudhury! Nan? Choudhury! I'm happy with you! I'm happy with you! I'm happy with you! Thank you! Allah! Allah Akbar! What is this? Dampuk! Dampuk is perfect! It's very tasty! Yes! It's very tasty! It's delicious! Sambar! Sambar! Really? Very hot! Thank you so much! I'm getting a big deal! I'm getting a big deal! How does it taste? Delicious! Like me! I will finish everything! How does it taste? It's delicious! It's very delicious! Ta-da! It's ready! It's complete so fast! Like in two hours! I will change the clothes first! Purple one! One, two, three! Ta-da! How is it? How is it? It's good? Much better! Nice, nice, nice! Okay! So this is Fasalabad! Every clothes can complete in two hours! It's so awesome! Yes! I come here to pray! It will be a long journey! I'm so glad to meet you! I'm happy with you! I'm so glad to come to Pakistan! Thank you so much! I will finish everything! Yes! This is an explanation! With Arabic! Back fighting! Everyone have to read this! Yes, everyone! Thank you so much! I've been waiting I've been hurting Cause I've been falling I need your help My heart is breaking So tired of crying


Okay, we're back. This is Dave Vellante at Wikibon.org. And this is theCUBE, SiliconANGLE's continuous production. We're here at Knowledge. We're in Vegas. My co-host Jeff Frick and I have been going wall to wall. We did all day yesterday a number of executives from ServiceNow. We had Frank Slutman on. We had Fred Lutty on twice. He was fantastic this morning. Post keynote, we had a number of practitioners. Today has been about unpacking the messaging. So basically when we come to these events, the vendors put forth their messaging and then we try to talk to the audience and talk to the practitioners. They say, okay, how well did that resonate with you?  And many times there's a huge dissonance. We've seen today probably five or six times we had Marathon, CareWorks, FICO. We just had Yale University. The messaging is very consistent. We have the CIO from Australia. Messaging has been very, very consistent. In other words, you're seeing the adoption of the technology in a way in which ServiceNow is putting it forth. So that's, you know, high marks for that. Beth White is here. She's the chief marketing officer at ServiceNow. Beth, welcome to theCUBE. Thank you very much. First time on. We're excited to have you. It is, it is my first time. So knowledge is our first time at knowledge. It's a great event. Very impressed, as I said, with the resonance amongst customers. Customers are really happy. We're just clear patterns emerging. Happy customers. Life was a nightmare before ServiceNow and now it's getting better. It sounds so cliche. It's almost boring hearing the same stories over and over and over again. So congratulations on that. We don't get tired of it, by the way. We had some great segments this week and so congratulations on that. I mean, that's a really, say we do a lot of these shows and you don't always hear that resonance. So I think it's a testimony to your customer base. Yeah, no, thank you. Thank you for that. And we find this happens with every first timer in knowledge. They come to the conference and people are absolutely blown away by the enthusiasm of the users and the sort of insatiable appetite our users have for more content and for networking with each other. So, you know, this is a powerhouse, a powerhouse of an event from that perspective.  You know, we do multi-billion-dollar company events and you guys, you know, let's say roughly $400 million this year. This is a relatively good-sized conference. We're talking about 4,000 attendees. We're close to 4,000 this year, yep. A vast majority are IT practitioners, right? IT practitioners. We also have a very strong executive track this year. We have over 80 CIO and senior VP of IT types that showed up for our executive CIO decisions event as well. We have 14 different either CIO or VP's also presenting today and a few of them tomorrow as well. And those are submitted requests to present at the conference. Oh, so how's that all work? So, we do a call for papers and our users, we push this out and they submit their content and their ideas around what they would like to present at the conference. And I think this year we had something like over 400 submissions and then we go up through a process internally to choose which of these we think are gonna go be most compelling, what the right mix of content is and we drive that based on surveys. We run into the user base to see what they really want to see from us this year and then we marry the content against that. So, how much of the content that you present is presented by practitioners, peers that are actually using the product versus service now employees that are experts? Yeah, I love this question because 90% of the content at the conference is, yeah, 90% is delivered by users and what I love about this is so many conferences you go to are chuck full of vendor hype and analyst puff and all of this opinion and this is the one place where users and also prospects of service now can come and actually talk to people who have their hands in the product or looking at the executive and management dashboards and live in service now. There's a lot of non-customers here too. Jeff and I were the first night we're just kind of cruising around the first three or four folks that we met weren't customers, they were prospective customers. So, that's an interesting mix. I had heard something like 25 or 30% are actually prospects, not customers. Yeah, and I don't have the final data here. We'll see what happens as we get through the end of it but it looked like we were close to 25%, probably 30 maybe. The thing we really try to do is this is a very user oriented conference and so we aren't trying to drive an environment here where it's getting overtaken by people who aren't familiar and have their hands in the product because job one here is to help the users learn how to do more with service now which is really what they're here for. So the thing Beth I didn't expect that we've seen a lot of is really the sense of community and we've talked a little bit, equating it almost to like again, the consumerization of IT, saying like the Apple and the App Store and this community of people that are downstairs building apps. I met a bunch of little integration companies last night and I was down there who were guys that were doing service now at their companies and decided to go out and start their own little consulting gig which to me and we're validated today is this business empowerment that these IT guys are suddenly feeling with this tool that they couldn't ever do before. Yeah, it is a major sense of community and what's really interesting and I always tell people this when I joined service now I had heard about knowledge, I was told I was going to be blown away and you sort of think, yeah, everybody loves their users and then you get in here and experience what you guys have seen as well which is it is a fanatical sort of crazy fanatical environment and it draws a lot of ecosystem around it and so what we really tried to do was make this accessible, stay relevant and make it accessible to other parts of the ecosystem because we are growing so fast, there are a lot of companies and people, even individuals who want to build businesses around service now and you saw that we set up our little exhibitor pods and that was sort of the entry level way to get into the event and hopefully people there will are going to see what this is about and they're going to come back next year and a little bigger and a little stronger, right? With their presence. I think Fred and Fred's presence is just spectacular. He's a rock star. We're fortunate to have him here twice. We talk about tech athletes all the time and we decide that Fred is a Hall of Famer. We put him straight into the Hall of Fame but his keynote this morning, I mean it was packed. It was packed. In fact they started a standing ovation for him when he walked out. So just tremendous energy and that'll be an interesting challenge for you guys as you grow as a company to maintain that connection that he has with people. I think, I met a guy last night he said he was customer number 30. A, he knew that he was customer number 30 and two was something that he was proud enough that he brought that up right after introducing himself in his name and he told me that a couple years back when he worked for a big company, Fred came and sat in his cube with him and watched him manipulate the software so he could learn how people were using it. It was Bill Collins last night. Bill Collins last night. Great job. I mean so it's phenomenal energy and then of course we had Craig on all the way from Australia saying that one of the key things he's getting here is collaboration with other CIOs and we talked about kind of the co-opetition and how does that work but in such a challenging environment for those guys being hit with so many transformative technologies not only yours but just the whole cloud, big data tremendous value to be able to come here and share with other CIOs. Well it's a diverse audience too so when you go to these big events you'll get CIOs all the way down to IT practitioners, infrastructure, yeah right. And here you get the full spectrum and for a smaller company and a smaller conference of 4,000 people we've talked to CIOs, we've talked to senior IT leadership, we've had IT directors on, we've had IT service management professionals, how is it that you're able to attract such a diverse audience? Well another great question that I love that the interesting thing I had, Brian Lilley actually and he's the CIO of Equinex he actually was walking back and said you guys are missing a great marketing angle right now because other companies are going in and they're selling for example CRMs into the sales organization and they sell very high up where the VP of sales is really the one driving the application or solution into the organization and the sales guys are all there having to suffer through the whole thing right now they can be watched but ServiceNow actually and I love this ServiceNow is actually a place and a kind of application where everybody from the CIO down to the technician lives in it and loves living in it and so you don't really have this big brother type thing going on and there's total alignment across the users and then once you start getting out of IT right people start interacting with IT through ServiceNow and they're sort of moving into this you know now give me some of that right and So you got the executive track we were at the hackathon taking a little video so you got that full spectrum that's new this year we had the innovation awards the fact that people are submitting papers I mean people are really actively contributing to the community and again we goes back to the kind of commercialization of the enterprise this whole kind of open source piece of it where people are active contributors to the community really tremendous So what do you tell the people that are watching that didn't attend this year those that maybe are ServiceNow customers and maybe those that aren't why should they come here what's in it for them you know I think we've talked a lot about the enthusiasm and the networking the peer networking peer-to-peer networking but you know what we really have tried to do here is put together a format where in one week every year globally our users in our ecosystem can descend upon this event for the richest and actually most economical learning experience they can have right because we've got a pre-con training set up which by the way I know you like little factoid so I will tell you with pre-con right we had over 900 people registered which is more people than actually we had it all of knowledge 11 so just to give you an idea of the size and growth here that we've had but the pre-con training we have 180 breakouts and labs going on again all this content being delivered by our users which you know where else are you going to learn that right you can go out and you can buy an analyst report for $40,000 or you can come here and actually talk to people that use products yeah you know we're big believers in wikibon of the peer insight and peer-to-peer we had a number of practitioners on today and one of them said look in my region of the country we have a very strong service now user base and yeah maybe I had some concerns about security and you know going to the cloud et cetera but it was my peers that convinced me so that's really I think what you get at an event like this all right Beth so really appreciate you coming by doing the rundown of the conference we got the nowbies coming in we have some special guests coming in we got these guys, these guys have been bopping around all week making us chuckle and so come on in here nowbies the nowbies it's the nowbies, it's our now guys hey guys I don't know Alex can you get those guys here we go they're going to run into each other watch out how you guys do it one on or hey guys oh man it's making me nervous so what are you seeing out there tell us what's happening what are customers saying what are they saying customer thumbs up or thumbs down what do they think ooh they love it huh they love you so you're going to be back next year yeah right on do we have a do we do another date yet boy it's April 27th through May 1st or 2nd all right back here back in Vegas calendars no we're actually at Moscone in San Francisco fantastic yeah that's great we'll be in Northern California right excellent go giants go Moscone yeah go giants all right go giants we got the right one here really like that here at ATC park all right go 49ers go Stanford we got a lot of red that's right good stuff hi Beth White thanks very much for coming by and sharing with us your perspectives on knowledge congratulations on a great event and and join us next year see you see you next time keep it right there and this is The Cube we'll be right back with our next guest thank you


Right, Miguel asked the question, is it possible to add the Azure AD company name value to the user's claims in Azure AD? I know I can call Graph API, he's got a URL which is great for audio and get the company name. But I would like to spare a call to the Graph API if it's possible to add the user's company named Azure AD claims. The simple answer to this is use the Graph API. Because of the fact that you can't pull this cleanly and add it to a claim, it's not something, I mean, you can do it via REST via the API, but you're using the Graph API anyways. So you might as well just go ahead and keep doing that. I know it's an extra step, but really there's really no others clean way to do it. You're talking about an object, well you know what you're talking about, inside of a claim you have all the different objects of that claim, and you're trying to insert one, and it's not that easy to do. So that's a short and sweet of it. Keep doing what you're doing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  I mean, is there some way that's outside of that? I mean, and then why? Why would you not just leverage the API? Well, there is a way, but you're still using API. You can't get it through the UI. You can't get it through the interface. I think that's the question. Right. You can't get it through it, so you have to go through whether REST or directed to the API. Right, correct. Short videos are good. People like those.


normally do, but you're trying to kind of sugarcoat it by saying, but it can't be manipulation and it can't be threatening to leave. And so that's my suggestion is that you have open and honest communication with him and talk to him about what's going on with him and see what he wants to do about it and see when he's going to be ready to do that. And if you're in a relationship with him and you're giving him all of his needs, you're fulfilling all of his needs by being with him in that way, there's a very good chance that he's not going to do that. That's one of the reasons why a lot of women end up just leaving guys because what they end up finding is that as long as they are giving him everything that he needs, he doesn't have any real motivation to do anything to heal himself or fix himself, which is why it's a bad idea to do the nursing a baby bird to health type of scenario, which it sounds like you're you are in right now, Tori. So that's that's what that sounds like, okay. So Rebecca says, never be anybody's number two. Claire says he needs to leave the relationship and heal before moving on. Yep. Karen says gross. What worse kind of dude?  I mean, he's cheating. I mean, I don't, you know, he's got a girlfriend. You said that they're broken up, but they're still living together. Seems unlikely. And that he's cheating. I mean, I don't know that it's just a it's just a product. There's so it's so messy. That's just there is so messy. Sissy says, sorry, but for me, age isn't just a number, especially when the guy is a friend of your son and has personal personal issues, red flag, and he started sexual texts. She didn't value herself from the beginning. That's right. Sue says, hi, watching from Ormskirk. I don't never heard of Ormskirk. Chantel says, hi, he says all the right things and texts sometimes calls, but still no relationship. So let's see. Chantel says it's cruel men are cruel. I don't know.  I mean, you're both kind of using each other here. That's really what's going on. Shannon says, I refuse to have conversations through texting. I'm upfront in the beginning small chat. Okay. Yeah. I mean, texting is just bad. Like if you're trying to build a relationship over texting, there's so much confusion you're not really kind of getting to know each other for real. Sissy said, is that story for real? Yes. Yes. Yes, it is. The woman who sent me that story just is watching this right now. She says, how is this possible? This woman allowed him to use her because she needed attention. Yeah. Like I said, they both used each other. You know, you can sit here and kind of blame the guy. Like, you know, but he's in a weird situation as well as two people who are in kind of situations where they feel desperate and they feel like they need something and they're both using each other. That's really what's going on. And you can kind of look at men and be like, oh, well, he used her to hook up and kind of do this thing and whatever. But in reality, she created an image of what this dude isn't with her own mind. And she bought into this image that she created, which he wasn't projecting at all.  And then you're like, yeah. I mean, it's just not, it's just not a good idea. It's the whole thing was a bad was bad from the start. So that says kind of my situation right now. It hurts so bad, but is a right thing to walk away. Regina said, if he's a cheater, he's a cheater. That's right. Shannon said all about knowing who you are, loving yourself, only want the best for yourself, never settle for anything less. I'm, I'm love being me, myself and I good. Jack says, Jack Rabbit says, he says he doesn't want to be in a relationship, but wants an ongoing relationship with me with exclusive friend with benefits. He says he has strong feelings for me. Is that possible? Yeah, yeah, it's possible. If all you want is a friend with benefits situation, then you can be a guy can feel a lot for you and only want a friend with benefits situation. It's, it's one of the confusing things that a lot of women kind of throw out there because there's a lot of women out there. And what they think is if I'm in love, nothing else matters. And so they feel it for a guy and they just go, right? And they will be like, okay, well, you know, red flags all over the place says he just wants to be friend with benefits, but we're in love. So let's do it. And maybe I can convince him, maybe he'll, he'll want a real relationship to, to please me and, you know, for me because he's so in love with me. And that's rarely, that's rarely how it works. For most guys, if they like for guys, commitment tends to be a really kind of like serious issue, right? Like it's like, okay, you know, he's telling you, like I just want a friend with benefits and I know that I don't want anything more because of usually it's some kind of baggage that he has from his past, right?  And those things are pretty ingrained in his mind. And so you are like love is all that matters. And he's like, I'm in love, but, you know, I don't want to end up getting hurt again or getting hurt like my friends did or whatever. And so he's willing to let that obstacle stand in front of him no matter what. And what ends up happening a lot of times is women just end up getting hurt because they think that something's going to change and then they're getting physical. And so they're just getting more and more and more attached. While the guy is like, I told you from the beginning that this is what I wanted and nothing else was going to happen. And now you're turning it into something else. And it happens over and over and over again. Tammy says, so true, Matt, how soon after a shattered heart should I start to date again? Well, it kind of depends on you, right? It depends on where you are and how you feel. And it's one of those things where it's like, okay, it depends on whether you can help yourself heal. And while you're in a relationship, which a lot of people cannot and so what they end up doing is they just bring their baggage into the relationship. And so the best thing that you can do is figure out how to get rid of that baggage, right? And it can sometimes take a depending on how bad your baggage is. It might take a really long time. And for some people it takes less time. And if you want it to take less time, you can always go through different kinds of programs out there that you can go through to kind of heal and help yourself out. There's my suggestion right now. We're actually working that that's kind of the next one of the next phases that we have in our business here is we're going to start working with women to heal their hearts because it's such it's really such a problem, right? Like our our mission and goal with commitment connection in this business that I have is is to help heal the divide between men and women so that men and women can be in relationships where they have each other's back and they love each other and they're moving towards the same goals again. And one of the reasons why that doesn't happen in this day and age, the reason why we have things like the the war of the sexes and men and women are fighting each other and we're using each other and we're hurting each other and we're constantly hurting each other and it's men and women fighting against each other, hurting each other is because we are hurt, right?  And when I did motivational speaking, I worked with some groups that went to schools and talked about bullying. And one of the things that they talked about in bullying is they say bullies bully because they're bullied. Right. And so what we found was that people that are bullies, people that hurt other people are hurting on the inside. And so the only way that we can get to a space where we're in partnership and we're really loving each other and treating each other well is if we're healing ourselves. It's the only way that we're going to get there because if you're hurt inside, you're going to hurt other people, not because you want to, but because you're defending yourself, you're fighting against getting hurt again and in that process of making sure that you don't get hurt, you're hurting other people. Many times it's completely unintentional. Man, I went off on a rant there. So Regina said, first time catching you live. Thanks for the content. Hello. Hello, hello, hello. Jeanette says, if he broke up with her and is moving out, then what? Then you wait until it's broken up. They're not together anymore. You don't want to deal with that situation. It's not, it's a bad situation. Alexandra says, exactly leave those types of dudes. You want all strings attached, not a thin thread that you hope won't break. Guess what? It will break. Yeah. So Jeanette said, I think it is best to move on value self and do the abundance. Just got caught off guard and taken it back. She wasn't even looking and it sounds like it started. Yeah, it was innocent. It started off innocent and red flags were everywhere. And you didn't pay attention to them because you wanted it to be something different than what it was. And it wasn't and you ended up, you're probably going to end up getting hurt because of it.  But that's just the reality of the situation. And it's guys, it's a guy's job to push things forward. Right. That's what a man's job is. Is he it's his job to move things forward. If we gave that job to women, it wouldn't like from from the initial phase, for the most part, it wouldn't end up happening. And it's guys who it's their job to push things forward from a physical standpoint and move things forward and forward and forward and forward. And it's your job as a woman to make sure that you need to do is make sure that you're either giving him green lights. Right. You're opening the door completely for him to come through.   If that's what you want, or you're shutting the door and locking it completely and not letting him in. And the problem with what you did in this situation is that you opened a door and let him come in. And what you should have done is shut it and been like, hey, what are we doing here? Right. And thought about it logically instead of just getting totally emotionally wrapped up into it and making sure that the situation was clear from the beginning and what you would have found was that it's not and that it's a messy situation and you should have gotten into it in the first place and you should have locked the door. So Mona says, hi, he never said that we are in a relationship, but he wants to see me two to three times a week.  Talks about his day and he thinks of me and misses me. I don't know what's going on. He shows a lot of interest though. Yeah, what you need to do is go watch the last the last live stream that I did about the signs that a guy wants a real relationship with you. You need to go watch that video right now or after, after we're done live streaming here. That's what you need to do. Mona, Tammy says, I have a guy that says he wants to have a friend with benefits, but he shows me more than that with his actions is this real. No, believe him when he says that he wants a friend with benefits. What you need to go do is you need to go watch. What was that? What was the life? There's another live stream that I did about this. I think it was how to go from a friend with benefits, how to go from a casual relationship to a committed one. Go watch that video, Tammy, because that will show you exactly what's going on and your situation is that he just wants a friend with benefits and you're thinking that it's something more because he's acting like it's something more and what you don't realize is that he really doesn't want anything more and he told you that and if you get into this any deeper into this situation, you're just going to end up getting hurt because he's going to be like, hey, I told you from the beginning, I just wanted friend with benefits. Tammy says, I really need help. I'm at the lowest and see nothing to move forward. I am thinking I don't want to continue on anymore. I'm so tired. Go get my forever woman program. Go to the forever woman formula dot com. You can download my program for free there and start using what I talk about this whole situation of all of this stuff, the things that we're talking about in this live stream, the story that we went over. None of that would have happened if you would have if you follow what's in my forever woman formula program, none of that would have happened. So click on the link above or below this video and go check that out. That's my suggestion. Shannon says he's looking for a woman with low self-esteem, no confidence in herself. He's probably low self-esteem as well and he has no confidence in himself, which is why they're attracting each other in this situation. Helena Hart says, hello, hello, Helena. Hello, Helena. I hope you're doing well. We should still do that live stream soon. If you guys want Helena and I to do a live stream together soon, say it. Let us know in the comments. Jillian says, thank you, Matt. Ladies, just because we're feeling love doesn't mean a guy is exactly, exactly, exactly. Think of guys who want to have sex seconds after meeting us and are bewildered when we want none of that. Same situation. Yes, it is. It's the same situation. So Kim says, how do you pay attention to the man you're married to? Not sure, not sure what you mean by that. How do you pay attention to the man you're married to? Oh, you're having problems paying attention to the man you're married to? Seems like a strange... Well, you can focus on learning how to pay more attention to somebody, right? Like, if you want to pay more attention to a guy, what you need to do is get curious. If you're like, hey, I need, like, I have a problem with paying attention to him, which is what it sounds like your problem is, what you need to do is get curious about him, get curious about who he is, get curious about his life, get curious about what he does, just get curious about, about him in general, and that will help you a lot. All right, are there any more questions about anything from anybody in here? If there are no other questions, then we will end up. Helena says, I love you guys. Tammy says, thank you, Matt. Yes, sessions are awesome. Okay, great. All right, so is there anything else that we need to talk about here? I feel like we're kind of running into a wall here. So all right, so I'm just going to, I'm just going to assume that we're done here. There's no other questions.  Thank you so much for being here with us today. I appreciate, I appreciate you guys. Really, we're working here to empower all of you women to have the relationships that you want to have. Again, if you don't have the Forever Woman program, go to theforeverwomanformula.com and check that out. If you haven't joined our community yet, you can join for free at thegoddaskcommunity.com. And so thank you, everybody, for being here. And I will speak with you again soon. Toodaloo, toodalada, da, toodaloo.


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Good morning. I mean good afternoon. I guess we can start it right. Well it looks like the old clock on the wall says time to start the meeting so ever please rise to a little pledge of reasons. So anybody here that is objecting anything that's going to be going on? Yep read this one right here. Anybody here that has a conflict of interest to what's going on here? I'd like to speak. Any board members? Nope. Is first do we do have anyone that's online or on the phone? Matthew Hardy okay. All right and now everybody's had a chance to look at the meeting the minutes from the October 21st meeting. Does it rejects anything or has any comments or additions or corrections? I'd like to make a motion to accept. I'll entertain a motion that we approve the minutes of October 21st meeting. It's second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Four aye. Okay that's curious. First we have Nathan. Do you have a question? Yes. It looks like for Mr. Hardy I actually managed the property he's got here in question would that be a conflict or anybody managed that property? Can you press your button? Oh I'm sorry. I actually managed. Try it again. Oh you're good. You're good. One more time. There you go. There it goes. Yep I actually managed the property there for Mr. Hardy at 1719 South 13th street. Would anybody have any objection if I did not abstain from that or would I have to would it be a conflict? I think we have enough members to vote on that one so I think what I would do is abstain if you're managing that property. Okay then I'll go ahead and do that when we get there. So Kevin then will be abstaining from item number three correct so so other than that we we could move to item 3.1. Or we just have the minutes approved so now we're going through item 3.1. If you want to call this up please. Nathan? No can you read it and then ask them up? The variance application by Nathan Torrensons requesting an 8x14 addition to the current 14x28 garage under construction at 3332 North 10th street. Can you step up to the podium please?  So you're apparently building it bigger than you had requested is that correct? Depending on how you look at it I guess no I still built the 14x28 shed. It just has an 8 foot overhang on it. Is your building isn't any bigger? I can't hear you as your speaker on. Yes go ahead so if I can explain a little bit what we're here is Mr. Tussin came in last year or the year before and was approved by the board to build a 14x28 garage. Scott I'm not sure if you might be able to show the picture of the that I have on there so that the board can see what we're looking at. So he was approved to do I have to move it on there? So he was approved by 8x14 addition? No so basically what the board had approved was a 14x28 garage so you can see the garage is the building that isn't quite finished. In addition what Mr. Tussin did was build this overhang which the board at that time did not approve so there was back and forth discussion from the city and the applicant with regards to this the applicant was made aware that this was in violation and he had two options one option was to remove it the other option was to come back to the board to ask for the overhang extension there's an application before you today to allow for the extension staff you know is questioning that extension a little bit it's there it's constructed so this is an after-the-fact request and we would be recommending denial of it but the applicant had an opportunity to come to the board today to request the approval of that 48x14 extension so Scott or Nathan if you want to explain a little bit in terms of your take on that and then the board can have discussions and there is a neighbor here for this one as well. I guess I don't see what that I mean there was a mix up of paperwork from the beginning my application said 14x28 shed and the building the building plans that were provided were like for 12x24 or something it was just a mix up of paperwork so the original plans had that in there no that's not correct so what you have there is a covered patio that's what you're in essence built on I'm sorry addition is that correct I didn't I didn't hear you all you did was it looks to me like you got a covered patio there in the front of that garage that's all you added extra you didn't actually act anything to the garage so no anybody got any questions there's a neighbor that's here as well and I don't know if you're done with your okay I don't know if you'd like to ask the neighbor if he has any questions which I think you should which one is the neighbor he'll I would imagine he would come up Mr. Winkle do you have anything you'd like to add could you please spec up to the microphone we have people on line that can't hear if you don't speak in the microphone appreciate that I think I understood you correctly before you said you were inclined to deny it that was staff's recommendation that's correct I can't imagine why if that's your statement that's fine first of all he's paying for a second application for the variance am I correct he did have to do that that's correct yeah variances are expensive correct that's why you submit what you're proposing initially correct correct and I think if that amount of overhang is there I think you should be able to fly with that I don't think the board should deny it well it doesn't meet the requirements and that's why he's here he's done more than he was allowed to do and that's what the discussion is here for today so that's what we're here for and that's why he's making that application and I understand that that point but I just don't think that that's the right way to do it you know I go back 10 years ago and my property over there I wanted to put a driveway in the building code says a driveway must be paved and or asphalitic my driveway there at that house which I purchased at that time had nothing but gravel sand and weeds so then I find out in order to do what the city code requires to be done that I had to pay for a variance $275 $275 back then bought almost all the concrete for that driveway so this is what I don't understand with the politics in these variances I thought it was unfair to have to pay for a variance for me and I understand where he's coming from now I paid for a variance to do what the building code and law required yeah I can't speak to the variances he's speaking of do you have any more additional input on this matter no no okay so you don't object to is that my understanding what's that you do not object to his absolutely not report business absolutely not okay thank you gentlemen and lady young lady will uh entertain a motion to either approve this or disapprove it what was the reason for the overhang that you just understand if that's how that was originally approved in your mind that it was approved that way but what's the purpose for the overhang just aesthetics okay just to have a place for the maybe I don't know patio furniture kids can play out there I don't know just aesthetics there's a second to that motion all in favor say aye opposed it's carried but you're not in trouble if you've got yourself a covered porch all right um a couple of things with that got to get the permit just need to update that and then just needs to get done and so you can work with jeff on that sounds good appreciate it thank you the next variance application is a curt westley requesting a rear is existing garage and build a 28 by 38 garage 25 feet tall with attic storage this will be a 2004 lakeshore drive could you step up to the podium please are there any neighbors here objecting to whatever he's requesting it was a very none it was a 32 by 28 you said 38 we have an application 28 by 38 oh it's 32 by 28 I wrote 28 or 38 on there because the drawings all showed 32 did I really write that on there and that's my error do you have the file over there that you could confirm Lenny it is in the powerpoint okay so yes so it is 32 by 28 okay sounds good all right go ahead curt um have you guys reviewed the the presentation and all that I put together I don't want to repeat anything if you guys go ahead and repeat okay um so what I would like to do is tear down the existing garage which is a 20 by 20 and replace it with a 32 by or a 32 by 28 garage I have a rendering in the deck that shows that I wanted to match the aesthetics of the house which I felt right there which I feel is very important especially with the location of the house so I I'm hence the the roof pitch is also steeper than what you normally see and I figured if I had that I might also turn that into storage so you're you have a dormer on there now on the garage no you'll see some pictures coming up here that the garage is a 20 by 20 it's just you can see the garage in the pictures if you go down a little bit more there's a couple more there's a garage right there well I see okay yeah so that'll be torn down and then replaced with that rendering that you saw previously so the current garage is a 20 by 20 by 18 foot tall and this new one will be 32 by 28 by 25 foot tall to match the house pleaded um a million dollar question is about contractors originally I had one lined up to start May but that got pushed out because another job came along so I don't know um he said maybe middle middle of a summer to fall that's what he mentioned so I'm kind of at their mercy right now your goal would be to have it done this year yes okay anybody else have any questions or do I make a motion to approve yeah do you have any questions yeah no I'll second you if if I can is the uh the city does what does the city have any position on this we got a motion that's made and seconded to approve this right well thanks I can uh so so a couple things um uh the typical garage is a maximum of 15 feet high so he's looking at uh designing this in such a way that allows for the um second floor and then the square footage and things like that is a little bit um larger so typically this is you know that's why he's here today but from a design perspective and things like that they've done a nice job uh trying to blend it in so um there wasn't necessarily an objection okay so there's a motion in a second we got a motion in a second all in favor say aye I opposed carried congratulations thank you very much the applicant we have is Matthew Hardy who I don't think is here is he Matthew are you on the line or is anyone here representing Matthew as I recall this Matthew lived in california or something uh hang on one second he's on can you hear us Matthew yes sir okay can you hear me yes don would you like to hear us please okay you're requesting to pave a nine by six wide driveway up to and within few inches of the side lot line on the north side of the house to access the garage in the backyard at 1719 south 13th street is that correct uh Matthew yes yes sir Matthew would you be able to go through a little bit of uh the things you've done at the house and what you're trying to accomplish here and the reason for the request well we're we're simply we're just trying to pave the driveway um I guess there's gravel and dirt as it is now um I I just purchased the property um I think a few months ago within six months and just it I purchased it with this needing to be done so um I'm just trying to address it you know make sure it looks nice and um you know it's up to to code Matthew could you uh inform the board the other types of things that you've done with the property I haven't done anything yet um we're kind of in the middle of winter so I have plans to do to some minor improvements but this is the main improvement that needs to be done initially did did you do the siting or did the previous owner previous owner okay so um the board members may possibly remember we had looked at this maybe two years ago and uh at that time the owner had not been doing some of the improvements there's been a significant amount of improvement done here siting uh roofing it looked like and this this uh driveway is probably one of the last things that would be needed to kind of improve the overall look and feel of the property um uh I know Kevin you're not voting on this one did you want to add anything at all as manager of the property that I might be missing or not inform in the board I don't think there's anything that that came to my attention other than this just the driveway area that has to be done but nothing's come to my attention prior to that okay so staff wasn't objecting I think the biggest thing here is anytime we have those zero lot lines we just need to make sure that the conditions there that it's draining towards the property and things of that nature so staff was uh recommending approval of the uh variance so I'll entertain a motion uh for somebody that we approve this I have another question though I remember the neighbor having a dispute about that fence so is that still the same neighbor I don't know the answer to that um that was one of the things that was fairly contentious at the last meeting um I don't know whether not the owner has had any dealings but we send out notice to all of the property owners within 100 feet and there is no one here um other than the applicant for this matter okay and have not heard anything okay so I'll entertain a motion to uh approve this as requested make a motion to approve we have a motion to approve second Richard you've made a motion do we have a second second yes I think Kevin's probably or you're standing all in favor say aye opposed that's carried all right so I don't know if you heard that Matthew but the board elected to approve your request so that way you can get your building permits to construct that driveway it's well wonderful thank you so much you guys rock hey I got a question for you um how did you uh you're calling in from California today uh how did you end up with this property uh you know I have a client over here that races uh race cars and he was at a track up by you guys and told me about shabuigan and just told he loved it and he told me about it and that's really what got me started on shabuigan and you know it is my goal to visit this summer and say hi to you guys and really take it all in and enjoy it where were you at a great place what town are you in uh we're in the San Fernando Valley just outside of LA what's the temperature you'd love it here in shabuigan if you could be here well thanks for investing in the city of shabuigan and we look forward to welcoming you here and thanks for investing in that property thank you guys there's a kim deets kim or whether you're uh you're requesting to operate a massage and chiropractic business at uh 14 15 north 13th street yes kim it's currently uh non-conforming at what you're requesting is that correct yes kim give me one second here um so so what we're taking a look at this is uh 14 15 north 13th street is this excuse me is this right in a corner of 13th there's something in superior avenue is it uh no it's down the black it's um zabal monument is on the corner it's right across the alley so behind johnson's bakery under 13th street erastos yeah you can see on the picture that this was the best accounting service oh you're right that oh yeah i remember years ago choice uh realty was in there some of you guys are way too young to remember that but anyway yes so so what we're here for is the property presently has a zoning designation of neighborhood residential and anytime there's a proposal to convert uh from one non-conforming use there to another such as in this case the accounting firm to the wellness center the applicant has to come to the board of appeals for that switch and that is why mrs deets is here today in front of the board uh is to change the one non-conforming use to another so if you want you can go from there and just let us know a little bit about what you're after over there okay so kind of what happened is i've been in practice since 2017 and um the building i've been i've been in the same building and i'm having to move because of the the landlord has there's a lot of noise so most offices are not designed for what i do we need quiet and we need walls that you can't hear through um so as i was looking the opportunity came up to purchase that and i thought why not so it's the perfect size it would be a five room treatment center um so there'd be other massage therapists i'm hoping to get an acupuncturist in there and then i have a chiropractor that's interested so it doesn't need a lot of renovation um there's three rooms that would be have some minor renovations done just bumping walls out a little bit and then there'd be a sink put in the hallway so what are your hours of operation that varies um the chiropractor that's coming in he works here in sheboygan tuesdays thursdays and he's in plymouth monday wednesday friday um i work like say mondays i'm open like 10 to eight but if i have clients only scheduled in the morning and early afternoon that i'm only there till then um per city ordinance we don't work past 10 o'clock i usually don't work past eight o'clock so i sometimes work six days a week i sometimes work three days a week so it all depends on on clients and their schedules as well but i cater to day shutters and people that work um during the day that can only come in the evening yeah there's a parking area in the back um there's nothing like lined off so it can fit six to eight cars depending on how they're parked okay yeah there's several parking spaces in the back i think that was one of the things that's fairly attractive yeah yeah right right so so um behind there uh it's right adjacent to the alley and so there's just uh probably about eight spaces that are as pregnant do you know do you know is that temporary fence uh snow fence on your property or is that on the other it looks like it's on the other okay it looks like it looks like we may have an answer you uh are you a neighbor that has a question could just step up to the podium please keep my phone on yourself yeah well bulky i'm a agent for uh wnsr we own properties two properties to the south of that building as well as we also own a building uh at the end of the alley um that fence is actually on an easement that we have behind that parking lot for uh 14 17 and 14 11 we're in the process of selling 14 0 7 and 14 11 are both for sale right now the only uh concern i have is we do have an accepted offer on 14 0 7 and the parking lot behind that building um was also used by 14 11 for parking so uh i could not talk the person into buying that property we were hoping to sell them both at the same time to one individual because that limits the parking to on street for 14 11 which is right next to the property that she owns that was my only concern if she would have people parking in front to our tenants at the moment will have to be parking on street at 14 11 we may have issues parking because also there is a deli across the street which takes up a lot of parking spaces people coming and going constantly there so that fence i put up there temporarily um there had been a row of trees there ash trees that were all dying i had those taken down um and put that fence up so that snow plowing wasn't an issue that when that lot got for her building got plowed it didn't get pushed into our easement and that's why that temporary fence was put up just for that reason before we didn't have to worry about it because there was trees there they couldn't push through that area so okay so you own those two properties so you if you wanted you could provide parking from one of the houses to the parking lot through that easement situation so i think as ownership you could resolve your own issue in terms of allowing parking from one of the houses on the other um but with regards to on street parking that there's no way that we can say hey there are customers or anyone else can't use that that's just my my biggest concern was that if she told her customers make sure you park in the back in the lot rather than on the street and uh if you're interested in buying 14 11 we would sell it to you as well um because like i said we do have an accepted offer on 1407 which closes that on the second of people so that was my only concern for being here um but otherwise you'll see on your i don't know you didn't purchase the property already it's contingent on the okay um we do own that easement on the backside of your lot so the east is access to the parking lot in back of 1407 but our 1411 is landlocked between your building and the other building and so there is no no way of having any kind of other parking unless the new owners for 1407 would leave the people from 1411 park in their lot which they might but it's no guarantee so okay Kim could you maybe mention a little bit you had indicated i think in your application that you might be doing some painting and some staining or something to the exterior the building after you get in yeah you could mention a little bit about the improvements also to that exterior okay so the wood that's on the building i really really like that and i want to preserve that so that'll all be um power washed and then the the building itself will be painted like a warm gray color um there it will be with uh i don't know if you can pull the pictures up there's with one of the rooms in between there's like a window so two of the windows are going to come out leaving the third window and then it'll blend in with the windows that go along this side i think it's farther in um but it'll be a nice a gray color and then the front door will be replaced also because that's old and falling apart um tomorrow i meet with precision they're doing the roof needs to be replaced so they'll be doing a um material called Duralast so it's like i guess the Cadillac of roughs so i don't have to replace a rubber rough anytime soon um but i'm talking with him about the wood that's on the top part i don't know if it's this office or the fascia but about covering that so we have to go over options because the length is too great that it would like warp so we're going to figure out what to do there or if we just have to replace boards because it looks like on the what would be the northeast corner a truck may have hit the corner so that has to be replaced but um we just had to make sure it makes sense you know so sounds good again did you mention also how long you've been working in the city my husband's been with the city for 30 years and yourself you've been in sure i've always you've been working in your business in the city how long have you been my business has been open since 2017 yeah yeah i think you know this is one another one of these where you have a building like this that's vacant and to have the opportunity to have someone improve it and upgrade it with the type of services that aren't that impactful um makes a lot of sense so staff is recommending approval a lot of times um matters like this come to plan commission and we have certain conditions of approval um things like getting their permits and occupancy you know if there's dumpsters that there's dumpsters enclosure so there's a couple conditions in there and if you guys approve it i'd recommend you approve it with those conditions of approval yeah and to address the parking like for what i do i have clients that are there for an hour sometimes up to two hours depending on what they're having done so there's not a lot of traffic that's coming and going all day i only see about three to four clients a day um i have seen more but that's usually on the weekends and then um it's like earlier morning so i'm not sure i know our vastos is really busy um but for me the location will be nice because i'm way out on business drive there's nothing out there i do get a lot of people that come from out of town especially now with covid with um the american club their spas aren't running at full capacity or ostoff or blue harbor so i have a lot of people coming on the weekends and when they come in groups i can only see one person at a time so it'd be nice that i can send them around the corner to go get coffee or across the street to get a sandwich but there's more options in the area that they can they can visit so that would be nice paul did you have anything on this uh paul also invested in the neighborhood he's with a rosto uh delicatessen so we've had a lot of uh nice investment in this particular area uh section of 13th with johnson with this with the rosto um and others that i may not be mentioning and not doing that purposely but it it's been a nice uh little redevelopment in this section of this neighborhood anybody have any questions i'd like to make a motion to entertain a motion to approve this one very second second kevin okay we'll have a vote on it anybody has any questions all in favor say aye congratulations kevin you got yourself a deal thank you so much thank you i shouldn't have been troubled are you giving out free certificates to uh uh practicing to your neighbors so we can have a problem with parking anyway moving along anybody have any more business to bring to the meeting today and i'll entertain a motion over your motion to the yard all in favor say aye hi post thank you for coming all right thanks everybody appreciate it