Welcome to the show. I have notes. The show where people with surprisingly full IMDB pages discuss all things animation, creative, and how Keri has made all of our merchandise.  Yeah, Keri Chakras, our new merch designer, and with us, as always, literally so far, we have Erin and Jordan. Hello. Our favorite. Howdy. Hi. We're back. When you see us dancing to the music at the top of the show, we actually can't hear it. Oh, no. Actually, I don't know if you know this one. I hear it in my mind. I can't hear music. Do you know how some people can't visualize things? Like, I can't hear music. Is that what tone deaf is? Yeah, I'm beat deaf. I'm also lying. That's like my new thing. Selective deafness?  I'm trying this new thing out where I lie. It's called lying. It's been working out for 10 years now, so might as well keep it up. Yeah, do y'all want to see some of my great merch I made? Hell yeah. This is my I Have Notes water bottle. I'm waiting for my camera to focus, but it won't, so that's fine. Looks like you ran out of space there, bud. Well, you know what it is? It's a conversation starter, because now you're looking at it and you're thinking what happened? I have notes. My camera's never going to focus. All right, that's fine. I didn't need that. But yeah, I was on show. Really intentional. It was a lot of fun. I hadn't, like, I've seen this show, but I never, I've never been on it, obviously. And like, I, I wasn't, I had never, I haven't done too many like contestant kind of shows. So it was a lot of fun. Is it? I don't know if it's true or not. I'm on right now.  And start presenting. Did Mike, did you see you have a clip? Oh my God! Look, I needed to promote us. I love your basic OBS skills. Yeah. Oh my God. That was us dancing in the outro. Please. I have all of those taped now to the side of my computer. Just in case I need them. You used paper towels. I used paper towels. I didn't have any like. Why did you get paper towels this time? I don't have loose paper. And, and if I spill my spaghetti. Oh my God. It's not a stain. Yeah. That should, that should be our first, our first one, handkerchief or towel. Yeah. Have you make a mess? Don't worry. We have notes. I have notes. I won't lie. That hat looked pretty good. Right? Jordan wants it. Yeah. We can, let's talk. Maybe we can, I like your hat. Oh yeah, pretty cool. It said IHN on it, but. Maybe that's pretty good. Yeah. We'll just use this and instead of like inside the burger, it'll just say I have notes for IHN. Yeah. Oh my God. I was thinking, hey, I had a new slogan idea for I have notes. Let me know what you all think about this. Well, everybody but Jordan, let me know what you think about this. Oh, come on. I have notes. A thousand percent eat. What do you all think? That's a lot of eat. That's a lot of eat. In fact, it might be 10 times more eat than other. Is it too much eat? There's no such thing. Look at me. Okay. There's no such thing. I have notes. How's everybody doing? Doing good. Should we mention that we're recording this in advance? Good job, Aaron. Double merch. She thought it was a chump shirt. Guess what? Yeah, we're recording this before Memorial Day because that's like our usual recording day. So if I guess if the world ends over the weekend, we're not going to talk about it, but also the world's over. So who cares at that point, you know? Anyway, it's Friday. So I'm in Friday mood where I'm just like coasting in the weekend. This is the last thing I'm doing for the day. You feeling pretty Rebecca Black? Oh, it is fried egg over here. Wait, did you guys know that she's coming out with like new music now? Monday? You joke, but she made Saturday. It only makes sense. She did. And she's like, uh, reinvented herself because she's like older now, not 13. She can actually sing it turns out. Yeah, she sings. And I'm like, Dan Rebecca Black, you go. And she had, she was talking about the sad part of course with Friday is that she was bullied a lot in school. So I think she, I think the story is that she had to go be homeschooled because of it. And now she's stronger and she's like, F all the haters. I did what I did because I wanted to. And now I'm still doing what I want to do. Hell yeah. It's just like, go Rebecca Black. I always felt like we always made fun of the idea of the song more than her and the way she sung it. Like definitely. I never really like made fun of her for like, look at this girl trying to sing and she's bad. It was more like, what an interesting idea for her. Well, yeah. Well, I also like to, to, I think the concept of like buying a music video. Yeah.  Remember Chinese food? Oh God. Yeah. It was the same person. It was like the same company. Wasn't it? It's the same. Yeah. It was the same producer guys. He's a random guy in the middle rapping. Yeah. He was in a, he was in a panda suit or something. I wonder what he's doing now. Yeah. Is that company still around? I don't know. I'm very curious. An answer for next time. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Rebecca Black if you want to come on the show. Talking. I have notes. We can, we can record any day of the week. You pick. We'll animate a music video. Yeah. We can have, we can start this. Please. Yeah. This is me. I have notes. Yeah. I'll, I'll do crappy OBS graphics. I'm going to say please come on our show. I'll add it. Please. I just love that last phrase. Just please. Yeah. Just please. I would be very curious to talk to her about like her experience through that time and how it has affected her now. Especially creatively. Like. Oh yeah. I would also wonder like who wrote Friday. Was it her idea? I can only imagine. Yeah. She's discussed parts of the behind the scenes like how it came to be. But I don't know if that was ever mentioned. Like if she wrote it or if the company did or whatnot. Yeah. Yesterday was Thursday. Well, it's actually true today. Yeah. If you're, if you're watching this on YouTube, the day comes out. It's very relevant to you. It's very relevant. That would be fair. Yesterday, Joe Clary did say, Hey everybody, happy Friday. Oh my God. Collectively like. What a big. Joe so much. What a. What a mystery. Right. If the head of the department says it's Friday, does he then have to make it Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should give it us the day off. I was going to say head of department supersedes God. Yeah. Four day weekend now, baby. Wow. Joe, you're so generous. I think it's it's very indicative of where we're all at mentally. Yeah. Absolutely. It took me all day to shake it being Friday. I thought it was, I thought it was Friday all day on Thursday. Oh, so he made a prediction. Yeah. I just never know what day it is anymore. Also, sure. I think I'm going to start. So I started off. Hmm. I started off when we were doing work from home and I was like, I'm going to, I'm only going to work in my home office. I'm very fortunate. I have like an extra bedroom. So I have a home office. And I'm like, this is going to be my space. And I think we even talked about it. I think it was on this show when we talked about like how your brain makes memories. And how, you know, maybe, okay, maybe not. But like, it's.  Yeah.  Okay. I'm going to go in this room. Oh, I'm, you know, doing podcasts. Okay. I'll be here. Okay. I'm doing, like I'm doing directing stuff. I'll go over there. Like trying to like spread out through my house because I was trying to separate work from home. But now it's just all blurring together. Yeah. I think, uh, yeah, that's kind of the philosophy from that, uh, CGP gray video we talked about a couple weeks ago where he recommends doing like the, the certain activities, um, like reading and entertainment in a separate space from where you work and from where you exercise. Um, and from where you sleep. But, uh, that also, that makes sense because. Like we're, you know, eight hours a day you're working. So. Yeah. Like, and, and you, you make like memories from relative points. Like that's how you get your sense of time. But if I'm in the same spot for like eight hours a day, and then I just go downstairs, I don't feel like I've like, there's nothing I can really like have a checkpoint for, you know, right? It's like, I was up here. Now I'm down here. Like I didn't drive home. Like there was no like clear separation of like this ending and then this beginning, like the walk downstairs to go into the living room isn't, isn't long enough for that for me. Hey, at least you have stairs. My bedroom is like right there. So I forgot what you made my bedroom. But yeah, like it's like, oh, right. I'm gonna go to bed now. That's what it used to be like for me when I, when I used to work from home. Um, uh, when I used to work on RTA, like, uh, from September, 2011 to December, 2012. I was like a remote worker. And so I would, my computer is right next to my bed in my bedroom. So I would literally, I didn't even have to touch the ground. I could roll out of bed into my chair and start working. And yeah, that was a dangerous, dangerous setup. Yes. That's a spiral. That's what that is. Maybe you shouldn't, uh, maybe you should just keep this apartment too. There you go. This can be your office. I need to go. So I told Lisa about my unfortunate neighbor, uh, situation since everybody's home. Can you hear sex? Extra annoying. Or what? Can you hear him having sex? No, thank God.  Um, so everybody's home.  So if I wanted to, I could probably jump from my apartment to theirs. Like Spider-Man style. Um, so right now, I have the blinds closed behind me, but occasionally I'll keep them open during the day. And my downstairs across neighbors, like an older gentleman. And, uh, he loves to sunbathe like constantly. Uh, okay. Can you rate, uh, very crispy. Can you rate his physique? Can you rate his physique, physique? Uh, he's got like dad bod. Like he's slowly melting. It's not a good dad bond.  And now you're like slowly melting. It's very crispy. We need to separate out dad bod and like father bod father. Yeah. He's a grand. I'm pretty sure he's a grandfather. He's an older dude. He's got that grandfather. See this partially crispy dude outside.  So yeah, I'm ready. I kind of, I kind of want to dissect that. What, what is a father bod versus dad bod is, is dad bod like the attractive one? I think so. And father bod is the knot. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think when you see a dad bod, you think, you think strong. You think, uh, caring. Soft. Soft, but, but, but there's, there's remnants of some harshness there. Yes. Right. He's gone through the battles. Right. I think with it, I think the most important thing about a dad bod is that you feel like if those arms wrapped around you, you just feel like safe for once. Right. But with a father, a father bod, you're more, you're starting to worry about their health a little bit maybe.  A little bit more. Stop sunbathing for 20 hours a day. Yeah. Like, I think I don't know how you would sunbathe for 20 hours a day, but he's found a way.  Do I though? Well, you know, it's not that you want to is that you have that like inclination. Oh, I have no choice. The lizard, the lizard brain is just like, oh, you need help. But like, you know, you don't act. Not for me. Yeah. Somebody help him. I'm not going to touch you. No. I hope you have grandkids. Yeah. Oh, that was great. Yeah. I think I could have put it better. And honestly, I didn't understand like the difference until now. Yeah. Or even the appeal. I'm glad I could finally help. The next step is someone do something like a Pokemon. I think, I think father, father bods were probably the ones calling. This is my segue. I think father bods are probably the ones calling for the Zack Snyder cut. You know what? 100% correct. Can somebody. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, see, I want to, before we get into it. Okay. This is going to be our trickiest trick yet because I think we all have perceptions and opinions on. You know, this in particular. Like everything from toe to tip. The movie, the, the over arc of the movie, the cinematic universe, the, the apparent need for this new cut of this movie. And I just, you know, this is, this is a chance for us to really drive home the constructive, positive discussion aspect of the show. Go ahead, Carrie. Okay. Okay.  No. No, I was going to say is can somebody, I have not really seen any of the DC live action universe. I, I saw the first Superman. And what was it? Yeah, it was just Man of Steel. Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. I saw that and I was like, that was okay. I don't, I don't like, I like Marvel. I think that I'm going to like stick to that. And I just like didn't really watch anymore. What, why is there Zack Snyder? Did he direct it? Okay. The story behind it is, it's a little complicated because Zack Snyder, I think he did about 75% of the movie. And he had the family tragedy where his daughter took her own life and he had to leave the set. And then he came in and he finished it. So that cut that went out, you know, is I think all the post stuff at at work was all Joss Whedon. Okay. So people who are disappointed by the movie think that if, you know, they had just had the opportunity to see the Zack Snyder vision come to fruition that it would be better. Personally based on, yeah, based on my views and experiences with Zack Snyder, Zack Snyder's work. I don't get that point of view. Can I ask what was it not good? Was the movie not, was there something? The movie was indeed, it was a bit of a mess. Okay. It is Justice League because I watched Justice League as well. Wanted to support Ezra Miller, Stan. He's in it for like two seconds too. Which is the worst part. He tricked you. Yeah, but in the fucking, in the Snyder cut, it's like 20 minutes. Oh my God. Release the Snyder cut. Now this is on board. So the movie itself, someone who has watched the movie, someone who has liked DC, like, I think we can all kind of unanimously, unanimously agree, we all grew up with DC, just not necessarily this DC cinematic universe that they wanted to construct. I did also watch the first band of steel and I was not, I was not a fan, although to be fair, I think Superman as a hero is not my favorite character. I'm not super into the idea of God being a being and being a superhero with humans kind of a thing. Well, there's before you get too far away from that, let me just, we can come back to that actually because I, because that comes down to the way media portrays Superman, which I always think they kind of get wrong, but. Mm hmm. Valid point. So Justice League as a movie, they, they definitely tried. I think they, they did want to try to kind of hit that Marvel thing. Hence why they did kind of pay Joss Whedon to come in and like finish this movie.  Yes. The first two. The first two. Yes. Okay. Justice League was not my favorite out of all the DC cinematic universe movies. It is a mess, but I was entertained for a good portion of the movie. I think. Oh, not even all of it. Not all of it. I haven't actually seen it. So I think it's in that way. Yeah.  There is a portion where Superman comes in and that, that is the part where it kind of went like, Oh, this doesn't entertain me as much as the rest of the movie did. Um, because it, man, I have feelings, but also I just wanted Ezra Miller and Cyborg to like do their thing. And then Superman came in and decided to be the main character again, which I was like, okay, never mind. I am not as fond of it. Was it, was it kind of like the last two episodes of Darling and the Franks? No, no. We're just like, like, you feel like you're like going somewhere and all of a sudden it's like, Oh, we're going that. Okay, we'll go over there. We're going that way. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like the movie never really knows where it wants to go. Yeah. Does anybody turn into a giant spaceship? I had to think about that very critically for a good second. The fact that that's not like a yes or no is like, uh, the, uh, the like, the final like thing that like resolves all the conflict and like, well, uh, never mind. We've already spoiled the entire movie. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's been out for a while. Um, we're going to have a new trust. So my thing is just like, most of the time I was going to say about Superman is yeah, he's, he's the superhero who's overpowered and can't be beaten. So that's not what's interesting about him. What's interesting about him is that like people are scared of him and he's basically, he's like a parable for an immigrant story where, you know, like surrounding him is mystery and the unknown and change and, you know, people either reject that or, you know, believe in the good and him and progress and stuff. So it's the, they never tell that story though. It's always who's superman going to punch. That's fair. That's fair. You put it, oh God. Now I'm kind of just like, oh, I want that superman, but it's, it is because of the way that people really portray him in media and how they don't ever stray from that, that he has kind of turned into this like white Jesus saves America. Exactly. And it's, it is that, that's really the noise. That's not what he's supposed to be. You're right, Jordan. I agree with you. Yeah. It feels like he was meant to be this perfect character that's flawed. Like he still has flawed. Like that's why I honestly, like I feel like my favorite version of Superman is all my, from my hero. Oh yeah. Like I thought that did a lot of similar things with, you know, it's obviously not like a one-to-one, but I thought it was a little bit, they played some things more interestingly than I've seen last year.  Like I don't, it doesn't, like it doesn't, I've never gotten the impression that any of these DC live action movies have been bad. And I've just gotten the impression that some of them, like some people are like really into them. And then some people just like, it's not for them. And that's fine. But I, I don't, who were the people that were asking for this cut? Is it people who like DC a lot but didn't like this movie? I think that's what it comes down to is like, yeah, there's some like what could have been ism about it. So here's my hypothesis too, is that I think that was around a time where people were trying to cancel Joss Whedon. So when the movie came out and people kind of started to really study Joss Whedon's work and realize that he is not like the kind of cult nerd idol that a lot of people made made him out to be. And I think a lot of fans had this idea that Joss Whedon made the movie something completely different in tone because he tried to add more humor in it. And he tried, he added like little bits of things and mixed together with Zack Snyder's sense, it didn't make any sense. And I think those were the people who went, no, we just want to see what this one person did and see if that makes it any better because it seems like the Joss Whedon or the one that they had released in theaters from what I'm seeing is it seems like the opinion is it's too much clashing, it's too much mixing of ideas. It definitely feels like it was two directors. Yes. I guess I can see that. And to me it just feels kind of clunky to do it this way because to me it's kind of a slippery slope because you don't want to give too much credence to like the kind of mob-ness that kind of like some fandoms have. I'm assuming that everybody's been very diplomatic and that this course has been really good. Like people just politely said, hey, is there any chance we could see this version? I would just love to see it as like an alternative. Thank you very much. Yeah, I think the hashtag going on was pretty please release the Snyder cut. We're asking nicely. I think that was going around. That's good to know. Yeah. But at the same time, I feel like Warner Brothers, the studio kind of made their bed when they made the decision to not kind of shelve the film until Zack Snyder was ready to finish it. Yeah. And that's a decision you could probably understand a couple of years ago when this movie comes out.  And we've also talked about how for the most part, people who are truly passionate and supportive about creative works and the well-being of people is that they're usually OK with something waiting a little longer for something to either be good or like a little extra polish or whatever they need in order to get it done. So I wonder if these same people would have had that reaction as well when had Warner announced, OK, Zack Snyder needs to take some time off. We're going to push back the release of Justice League a year at least. You know, the reaction to that would not have been positive, I imagine.  I think it's kind of a brilliant move for them to release it on HBO Max on the Xbox platform. Oh, that's a good point. That is a very good point. So I feel like there's not a lot of risk on their part to do this. Isn't it going to cost them like 20 million to do this? That's right. Where does that cost come from? Yeah, why does it come out? That was the first thing I'm looking up right now. I think it's because there was visual effect shots that weren't done. Oh, yeah, that totally makes sense. I thought it was going to be because this whole Zack Snyder cut is actually just hypothetical and we have to pay him. That was what someone else said too. They're like, oh, so they're making an entirely new movie. Yeah. You didn't watch the DC movies, right? The only one I've seen is Wonder Woman. That one's actually pretty good. That and Shazam are my favorites. Everybody said that and then I watched it on a plane to Australia because it was like, well, I don't have anything else to do. Time to watch Wonder Woman. Everybody says it's good. I felt like it was good up until like maybe two thirds of the way and then the last third, I just was not a fan of too much. Yeah, a little too much action and stuff. It's not even the action. It's just like the ridiculousness of like this mustached God like ascending down to fight Wonder Woman. I got you. Also, I have a mustache. It looks really dumb. What I always find interesting is how you either embrace the campiness or you try to make it more realistic. I feel like Marvel movies walk that line perfectly. They can be absurd, but at the same time, they walk the line of believability and suspension of disbelief. This one kind of felt like it was teetering on either side, especially towards the end. To me, it felt like it couldn't decide what it wanted to be. So according to this Hollywood Reporter article, it's going to cost between 20 and 30 million. It's going to be it might be around four hours long or like holy crap, not worth it. Six individual like TV specials or something. What? They're just straight up making new content. The quote said apparently they use only about like a fourth of what they filmed or something like that.  I know all of this makes me feel very suspicious about it, but this is just what I'm reading and passing off as fact. Okay. Suspish. So we'll see. The plot thickens, huh? Yeah. That's a thick plot. I mean, as if the Justice League maybe didn't have a thick plot. Wait, how long was the original cut? Probably like two and a half hours, right? Oh my God. It was two and a half hours. It was like the minimum runtime of a movie of that magnitude these days. God, we watched it. I watched a movie last night. That was an hour and 50 minutes and I saw that runtime. I was like, oh, that's long. I just want 90 minute movies back. Yeah. So I think that you Jordan and Aaron had hit about DC and Marvel with Marvel walking that line between campiness and kind of that fantastical element is something I remember I talk about with my friends a lot because we were really into the Marvel movies in college and but we were really into the DC cartoon shows. Oh yeah. And there's some gyms in there. They're amazing and it's crazy because if you think, did I watch a Marvel cartoon show growing up and you think to yourself, no, I didn't because DC was true. You're right. That was on that was on WB. I never think of them as as Marvel now dude. That was true. If only because they're Fox. Yeah. But to me, I think that was one of the interesting, one of the more interesting, I think psychological bits or just kind of psychoanalyzing myself onto why like, why do I prefer Marvel over DC? Is it just because these characters are a bit more like, I think relatable, relatable. Yeah, there's Marvel superheroes tend to be attainable because it's about like these crazy people in high positions who are actually being lowered down to, I guess, like a plebeian status, so to say. And DC superheroes tend to be really over the top, but you see their human side because their whole so purpose is to serve humanity. And I think that's such an interesting bit of like, okay, so you're bringing down a God as opposed to like, kind of putting them on a pedestal. But at the same time, I think for me, the reason why the DC cartoons work so much was because they were cartoons. Like you already have that suspension of disbelief. Whereas if you put it in a live action movie, the camp and they're trying to make it like edgy and dark.  Like it loses that campiness for me and it becomes like super realistic and almost like hyper fixated on being real. But it's like, that's not real. I think it all stems from like, because it's like separate people making these decisions. Like the people that like made these like really good cartoons that we love like Batman Beyond and Batman the Animated series and all that stuff. Like our different people that who are, you know, controlling the creative destiny of these movies. And I think the two worst things that happened, that could have happened to like the DC cinematic universe are the Dark Knight being a huge success. And Marvel kind of establishing this notion and succeeding and executing the notion of a cinematic universe. Because then you're kind of a slave to this thing. Like, you know, it's, it's in your realm. Like Batman is, is us. Like, you know, like we can just use that as a jumping off point. And that's what people like. So we're going to make it dark and gritty, but we're also going to try to intertwine all these stories. And, you know, they're just, they're just trying to recapture lightning in a bottle. And you can't, when you, when you're doing that, you can't do it. I have a question is, so I think it's pretty, pretty obvious and clear. And honestly, one of the reasons I like it so much is that like John Favreau and, you know, and, and Robert John Jr. because I heard they did a lot of it like improv. But like, he really set the tone for the MCU with Iron Man. Yeah. Like, like, to me, that's pretty undeniable. I, I, the impression that I get, because again, I haven't seen a lot of them. The impression I get that it was that the Dark Knight wasn't as influential as Man of Steel was and Zack Snyder. Like it seemed like they, they banked on the success of Dark Knight. But said, okay, but Man of Steel is going to be like the start of our cinematic universe. Yeah. And like, but it makes you wonder like the person who's running the studio, who's like being like, well, this thing that we made with Christopher Nolan is super successful. Yeah. So let's get a guy who can do that for a superhero movie because Christopher Nolan wants to go make a World War Two movie. Right. Oh, Zack Snyder, Mr. Slomo. Just imagine if, if Nolan had stuck around. If he just made like one more movie. I think the, I think the entire DCU would have been different. I agree. Also, maybe, but like, I don't want Christopher Nolan, like, I appreciate so much more his other movies than like his Batman movie. I'm not, I'm not even saying that he should. I'm just saying that like, to me, to me, it feels like they went more down that path, the Snyder path. Yeah. So if like Nolan had made Man of Steel instead. Right. And then, and then somebody else had taken it. Aaron, what was your question? Yeah. Is the, the new, is the new Batman with Robert Patterson? Is that a reboot? Is this like, is it part of the. Nobody knows. I want to know. It keeps me awake at night. I'm also kind of curious. Like, I want to see what he'll do with Batman. I think he'll do great. Yeah. Oh yeah. I have no doubt. I think, yeah. I think what it needs is just a, a total refresh. Like hit the reset button on it. Like. That's what everyone says whenever a new Batman movie comes out, like every generation. Please. Please be good. Please. Well, I mean, we're still in the cycle of like, of jokers, like trying to top each other and stuff. You know, like just because of what heat ledger did in the dark night. And it's just like, stop trying to like make it like, you know, an in-depth character experience of like, submersing yourself in the role and stuff. Like just give us, you know, something different. Yeah. But, but Jordan, he's damaged. Jordan. He's like me. And I didn't know that unless he had a tattooed on his. Jordan, he's dead. I have a Sharpie right here. And it's like taking all that. I was looking at my sticky pads. I was like, hmm. Yeah. Is it time? So speaking of which, did anyone see Birds of Prey?   I really don't have an excuse now. Yeah.  The screen or app we have for being Warner media company peoples. Yeah. He said, did you? I think you need to buy it now. I think it's out out. Yeah. It is, but I mean, you can watch it for free. What was your question? Did you see it? I did. Yes. How was it? It wasn't my favorite. I think it was an interest. It was definitely an interesting concept. I definitely want to support it, especially since it's a very female driven rated our female superhero movie kind of a thing. There wasn't. And it wasn't meant to be like exploitative rated R. I think. Yeah. No, it was rated R.  And there's blood and there's also a torture. It's it does get squeamish. Oh man. There's a girl needs. Is it like a. It was like like ball stuff. I can't. I can't deal with that. Ball stuff. Not that I know of. I know there's no ball stuff. And the skydeer cut there is. The first Daniel Craig James Bond mess me up. Oh man. I can't. I refuse. Every time I see a wicker chair now. No. Yeah, I won't sit. I won't do it. I won't do it. So if my only option is a wicker chair, I'll stand. I'll stand. Oh my God. I thought the movie was okay. It's not. It's not my favorite. I didn't have said before, but Shazam was really good. And that was definitely my favorite, but it's because that was kind of the campiness I'm looking for. Whereas birds of prey, like definitely. Took advantage of Harley Quinn being Harley Quinn. They changed the name, didn't they? Yeah, they did change the name. It was like Harley Quinn. The emancipation of Harley Quinn. And now it's Harley Quinn. Birds of prey. It's more. So I think for search engines or searching, they said. But the title is still. That it's still birds of prey. It's, it's just the way that appears on your ticket. And it kind of has like a different title. Winning for you look. But first off, Margot Robbie was great. Nailed the character. I cannot sing her praises enough about like her performance in that movie. It was kind of wild. There was really good animation bit in the beginning too, which I was like, good job.  I see you. And I think some previous RTE employees worked on the title sequence. Oh really? That's awesome. I think Penny and a few others from our comp team. Yeah. I'll have to double check. But I'm pretty sure that seems like a very penny thing to do. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, she'd sign up for that. Yeah. What else about the movie did I like? I like the cast of characters that they that they had. I think the actresses who played every single character played them and wanted to play them. Like they're very genuine about the way they went about it, which I think was really, really fun. When it comes down to it, it's, I think the movie is very much your mileage may vary. To me, the down parts of the movie were, I think there were some action bits that were slower than I would have liked. And they definitely use a couple of slow mo shots where I was like, that doesn't need to be slow mo, but like good on you. I'm doing that great stuff. That was great. Do you think like, yeah, like was Zack Snyder on set that day? He was like, wait, now this all looks great. But slow mo. Exactly. Or like better. You can see longer. There's a screenshot going around of people sarcastically saying, wow, is that Snyder so subtle with his imagery? It'll be like Superman floating. With like a cross in the background. It's like, oh. That's what that's like what we were kind of talking about with like the issue of him being like a staining for Christ. Like, yeah, it's just. That's not his story. I feel like he's not the savior. And it's not at all. I feel like that's like the equivalent of media telephone when an artist interprets him one way and another person who's an artist goes, oh, I like that interpretation and they do it. And then you get the same exact line of more artists doing the same thing until you have what we have now with like Superman. And it comes like a caricature or like a watered down version. Yeah. I agree. Bomber. Yeah. So, well, so, okay. That was, you know, this whole release the Zack Snyder cut thing was maybe a. Not as great version of people. Demanding things. It sounds like online. But it sounds like there was a good version of that. Yes. I actually, if somebody else was talking about this, I have actually never seen the show, but now I'm very interested in it. Tuka and birdies coming back. Yeah. It was a it was a Netflix series show. And it was it's like great reviews critically acclaimed. But this was also a show that came out right. As Netflix kind of shifted its priorities as to what they consider content they want to they want to put up. Shift it away from this. Yeah. Shift it away from stuff like this and more towards like reality, clicky, watchy, watch our stuff. Which is weird. It's by the character designer from Bojack Horseman. And that did well on Netflix. Like, I don't know why they would be like, maybe not this one. It's real weird. I think it was just a change in mentality. I guess. And it got caught up in it. But Adult Swim is bringing it back. So. Oh, dope. Yeah. It's going to be an Adult Swim show now. I don't know if it's web exclusive or I'm pretty sure it'll be on the network. So that kind of makes it technically part of the Warner family. Oh, you're right. One of us. But yeah, I enjoy that show. It's funny and it uses the medium of animation really well. It reminds me of, not to toot my own one, but it reminds me of RTA sometimes with like these little pop in things that happens. But I think it's just fun and it's a good use of animation. And it can also it also gets like deep and has like very relatable characters like Birdie is very anxious and like has like insecurity and her self-esteem and stuff like that. And Tuka is just kind of very loud extroverted and she has her own struggles and stuff. So it's a good show. You watch it for all those good bits and I'm glad it's coming back. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think it's coming next year. Yeah. 21. It's funny. I had a kind of a similar thing happen with Brooklyn 99 where I had heard of it, but I hadn't really watched it yet. And then in in getting canceled and then pick back up, I was like, okay, enough people seem to care. Like I'm going to check it out now. Yeah. It's like this. It's own marketing. I was kind of in the same. Yeah. Same thing. I just wondered how, yeah. A show's like possible demise or actual demise, like serves as a boost to audiences. This also happened with this. This isn't in our rundown or anything, but I just know this offhand. This has happened with a show that I think used to be on TBS or like one of those Turner shows. Leverage. It's like one of those like burn notice is. Oh, type of shows that like kind of were just like on that kind of tier of network television. Like everybody knew about it, but like, if you tried to find somebody who watched it, you couldn't. Yeah. Um, it like, I don't think there was an outcry or anything, but this is such a weird thing. And you guys, you guys are going to have the same reaction I had to this. Right. So Amazon has prime video and they put shows on that. That is a paid subscription service. Yes. Apparently Amazon also owns IMDB. And there's an IMDB, not subscription platform, but streaming platform that's coming called IMDB TV. Probably who knows, but it's a free, it's a free version basically. So it's, it's, it's an AVOD. It's supported by ads and subscriptions. Um, and leverage is getting rebooted or res, resurrected on it for like another season. And it mainly had to do with just good streaming numbers. So, but yeah, but not on prime. I don't know if it was on prime or on Netflix or something. There's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of VODs. Exactly. Why IMD, uh, IMDB? Yeah. Like why would I need to find out who was in a movie, not to watch the movie? Yeah, exactly. How can you possibly profit off of IMDB already though? Like, what is their profit? Ads. Ads and like the, you have to like pay. Yeah, just people going to the site. Yeah. That's true.  Man, I had two, I had two entries for me because people like credited me with like a misspelling of my name. No, no. Instead of IE, they put EI. And then they put, instead of the A at the end, they put Oh, so it was Jordan. Oh yeah. Um, but uh, so I had to like go through this whole rigmarole to just like, like flag the one that's misspelled and get it to change and like wrote the reason why, and it took like six months. It was such a mess. Like it doesn't even really matter. That's how Jordan, I'm asking, why? It just bugged me one day. Okay. I know one day I decided I'm going to pick this fight. Okay. Okay. I have a similar thing. I haven't checked in a while, but when I was first put up on there, I had credits as a makeup artist. So I think there's another Aaron Wynn that does makeup. And for a while, she was listed on my page, but I haven't checked in a while. I kind of sometimes I'll remember it. And then others all the second, whatever. Yeah. When I search for your name, there's one that says art department Ruby. And there's another that doesn't have anything. Okay. That answers my question. Yeah. I think that might be. That might be it. Yeah.   So I mean, like is, you know, that's what I moonlight as except I'm not very good at it. It is the same name. I disagree with me. Oh, no, you know what? You know what? You did. Hey, Aaron, you did. Oh, no. Do I don't know if you remember you were the hairstylist and makeup artist on a home to win a TV series in 2018. I don't know if you remember, but you did do that. Oh yeah, definitely. And then you were, it was the episode. Okay. You'll remember the episode was be our guest. Be. So I'm assuming there's, it was some type of. And then you weren't assistant hairstylist and makeup artist. In the blob heads. Oh yeah. Of course. My favorite episode as the Oz Barnes.  What can I say? Just a very talented person. Yeah. Yeah. What was that? What was, what was doing hair and makeup on, on home to win? Like, what was that? You know, those, those homes, sometimes they just need a little touch up. Oh, it really, it really is. Yeah. Three Canadian families compete to win a home. Designed and renovated by Canadian designers and contractors. Canada. It does have a 4.9 out of 10. Oh, that was 4.9 out of 5. What's so bad about it? Do we need to answer that? I mean, this is great though. Like, I don't, do they make the families like fight each other? Do they make them like fall on the ground? Yeah. No, they just. There wasn't enough fighting. It's whoever runs out of compliments for the other first. Yeah. True. Very nice people. We have time for, we got a question. Let's do it. Yeah. Let's do a question. We like to ask people and people like to ask us questions that they think they, they'd like to hear us talk about with about the creative process, animation industry or pipeline. What's going on with us? What's going on with you? So let's pull this one up. So L says, is there a book, graphic novel or manga that you wish as an individual or as a company could buy the rights to animate asking because I've become obsessed with imagining how I could animate some stories they love. And I have a feeling y'all can relate. We do relate. We do relate. Very. Yeah. I think in one episode I talked about the adventure zone, like how I was jealous that that one company got it. But I actually have that with like almost all non-animated or non-film media that I consume. Like if I'm reading a book, that's like, oh man, this would be, this would be cool to adapt. And like here's how I would do it.  And I was like, this would make a good movie too. If you did it this way. So I do it all the time. And I have like a running list of stuff that like just to try out, you know, an experiment with. But there's not any one that I can think of. Off the top of my head. I have, I have, there's a couple that like. Because I'm in a similar boat where I do that a lot. There's a couple that like the one that I like, I'm going to say this one for sure. Because it's like, I, this, this, I don't, I don't think this would actually turn out well. Well, I don't know. I don't want to say that. But I don't, I think the chances of this happening are like zero. There's a Murakami book called one Q 84. Oh yeah. That I would like love to turn into like a series of movies. There's this, there is this graphic novel called East of West. It's a image comic that I, I love. That would be another one on my list. Would both of them be animated? Carrie or is like one live action or just. I would, I would, I mean, I just like doing animation. So like, that would be my list, like my dream. But I could see. I think, I think one Q 84 has a better chance of being live action. East of West feels like the kind of thing that would be like really cool to do animated just so, you know, it doesn't turn into the Wild, Wild West. Was that, was that the Wilson movie? Yeah. That's what it was. Yes. Then what would be so wrong with that though? That's a good point. I still somewhere in my parents' house. I have the Burger King, Wild, Wild West sunglasses. Yeah. I had those. Yeah. Okay. Aaron, what would you answer for this particular question? Oh, I'm glad you asked, Lisa. So I am glad we finally got to this and waited until when we did. So I recently caught up on this manga called chainsaw man. Oh my God, I saw you posting about this. I was live blocking about this on my Instagram stories because it is a ride. Basically, it's, it is, it's in Shonen Jump, which is kind of surprising because Shonen Jump is mostly like 13 and older, I guess. And there is definitely like not, I don't know how it made it into Shonen Jump, honestly. I feel like it should be a Saiyan.  It's just a guy with a chainsaw for a head. Yeah. It's exactly what it sounds like. He's got, he hunts devils as they call them who terrorize people. That would work really well as like an over the top, almost like axe cop kind of. It kind of is. Yeah. And he's got the devil hunter. He has a chainsaw for a head. His chainsaw is coming out of his arms and he fights these devils and there's a big cast of characters and they all have like different powers, different devil hunters can like team up with devils to fight devils. There's like, it's wack. I posted about. It's wack. It's wack. Posted about Katana man, exactly what it sounds like. There's a girl with a bomb for her head. It's very. Bomb woman? Bomb woman. Actually, they don't say. Okay. It has an enormous name, unfortunately. That's, be consistent. Yeah. It's pretty rad. It's very. Adaptation. She is bomb woman. Yeah. Yeah. Tag yourself. Her reveal is so cool. But yeah, it's just really like, it's very like punk. Very like devil may care. Yeah. It's a lot of style to it. It's, it's, it's kind of dumb. Obviously. But yeah, it's a lot of fun. I want to adapt that. Probably as well. I mean, it's probably going to get an anime. Just like, I know it's doing pretty well. I think there's 70 chapters out right now. Okay. So I know my dreams are gone by, but. It's never too late. Let's just, let's just slide into their DMs and be like, Hey, what's up? Yeah. Hey, what's up? Please. Take a chance. Lisa, Lisa, what about you? I was thinking about this one. So I'm not going to say what it is, but I think everyone here knows I have this fanfic that I love to pieces. So the Powerpuff Girl fanfic. And I have loved it since I was in high school and I've been meaning to make a comic adaptation out of it. And even just like, it's, it's the kind of the reason why I draw so many Powerpuff Girls whenever I am, whenever I'm just like having fun or if I want to do something that's just for personal reasons, I'll do something Powerpuff related. And it's just because of this. And I'm not going to say what it is. You guys can just look it up yourselves. I'm going to guess. I think it's, is this the one you told me about that you, that you do? That's the rowdy rough boys and the canker sisters from Edna and Eddie. Is that, that's what you told me about, right? No. The Cartoon Network Cinematic Universe. Yeah. The CNCU. I just like how varied our answers are. I have Chainsaw Man and he says very wholesome with the Powerpuff Girls. Thank you. Thank you. That speaks to everyone's personalities. Yeah, right. If there was an actual like book or published work that I would want to adopt though, it's actually the Prissy Jackson series or whatever Rick Riordan has done. But Disney has, Disney has snatched that up. We can, we can fight them. Can we fight Disney? Okay. I believe it. The four of us. Yeah. Yeah. Individual. Well, yeah. Form like a Mecca to stand on each other's shoulders. We can take them down. We're like Voltron. We'll be real tall. So update on the Select All Shirts. If they're not out by the time this episode is airing, they're coming soon. We're doing a dual launch with kind of like just a regular logo one and then we're doing the Pride one. And we're also talking about spinning the Pride one off into other Pride adjacent formats. That's cool. And there was a... Stay tuned. The Pride one, there's a charity that goes to you, right? The aforementioned charity is Equality Texas. All right. Wait, no. Wait, it's a bit more specific. It's Protecting Youth. There you go. All right. Looks like that's our show. Thanks everyone for tuning in. If you haven't already, please like and subscribe. I have notes for the next episode. Do you have notes? Feel free to tell us in the comment section. Leave us all of your love and all of your critiques. We don't actually have merchandise, but if you want it, let everyone know. Otherwise, Carrie will just keep making our shirts and our hats and our water bottles. Y'all want a Catboy shirt? Catboy shirt. Catboy shirt. 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