Hey Virgo, welcome back to the channel. Welcome back to your weekend reading. Hope you all had a lovely week. This is a reading for Virgo's Sun, Moon, Rising, or Venus. If you are new, welcome. Please do smash that subscribe button and do hit like on the video if you enjoy the reading. If you want to get a personal reading, you can book a phone call or a text message reading. So the link is in the description box below the video. Alright Virgo, so let's get into this reading. We're going into this weekend. January, I don't even know what the date is. The 26th through the 28th. Okay, so we're going to take a look and see what messages there are showing up here for you. We're starting with, or you're starting with, I should say cycles. Oh goodness, fate, karma, something ending and something beginning Virgo. Okay, so something, something's out and something new is coming in. So let's take a look over this weekend. We do have the full moon in Leo this weekend as well. Oh my goodness. Alright, let's take a look. Fate, karma, something ending and something is beginning. Beginning for Virgo, starting over the weekend. Okay, let's see. Didn't want to give you a card. Okay, queen of pentacles. Oh, knight of pentacles. Two of cups. Oh shoot, Virgo. Somebody's making an offer to you. You've got the two of cups here. There's going to be some love communication happening over this weekend, Virgo.  I can't see, I can't raise up too high. You might get something coming in like a message, looking at your computer, looking at your phone, some messages are going to come in, looking at your laptop, your iPad on your computer. There's an offer maybe for a date with someone. It could be a Leo for some of you. It could be another earth sign. There's fire. I don't see air, but that doesn't mean that's not going to come in. But it looks like a lot of communication. Cupid's arrows with the eight of wands. Good news. Someone offers to pay for drinks or a meal or, you know, maybe you do, you ask somebody out over this weekend. So I do feel like you're connecting with someone and this is like a new cycle. So this feels like it's new love or somebody new coming in. Now with the Night of Pentacles, this is a solid offer that I feel like is coming in here. It's romantic, you know, but it's leading to romance. Are you and another person fall for each other over this weekend? Could be water as well. Could be a water sign. So it could be Pisces, Cancer Scorpio. There is fire. So yeah, I feel like this is a solid offer that will lead to a long term, somebody's, whomever you connect with this weekend, it feels romantic and it feels like this person is interested in a long term kind of relationship. Okay, let's take a look here. This might also be an energy of a long time coming. Okay, so I feel like if you're single and you've let go of a past relationship and you have been single, this is a positive thing for you. So it feels like new love over the weekend. It could also be the other person as well. So let's take a look. I do feel like you'll be communicating online. Okay, so you have the Seven of Swords. Two of Pentacles and the Queen of Swords. There's your air sign. So Libra Gemini Aquarius. Okay, so there's also an energy here of someone has made a decision to sneak away. I kind of feel like a runaway. Hmm, that's interesting. And it looks like it's a Queen of Swords. I don't feel like you're connecting with a Queen of Swords though. I don't feel like you're actually, I feel like there's an air sign who's out of the picture. Yeah, there's an air sign who's just gone. Just is, I'm here. They're telling me that somebody's going to communicate. I feel this feels like another person. Okay, this air sign is going to communicate with you. And I'm hearing a queues you of cheating or juggling them. Accusations are accusations. Okay, so this could be somebody that you were connected with before. It's a harsh energy with the Queen of Swords. It's very direct and harsh. It's going to accuse you or make claims that you are juggling them and somebody else.  Okay, I don't know why you need to know that. Why does there have to be a damper on a good thing? I just feel like that's the message they want you to know. So if you've ended something with someone, it doesn't have to be an air sign, but whomever it is, or you've just shifted your energy because you want to connect elsewhere from another person. There's something's coming in. This feels like a totally separate message. Something's coming in from somebody asking what you're doing. If you're messing around with somebody else, if you are juggling them and another person, you know, you get the gist. I just feel like, I don't know, Spirit wanted to tell you that. Let me just get one more card here. Yeah. Okay, that is so... Somebody's really upset. They're stressing that something's over. So I kind of feel like with this cycle energy, out with the old and with the new, either you're leaving someone or you've cycled out from a past relationship or someone that maybe you were connecting with and you have an opportunity to connect with. It feels like new love with the two of cups. Somebody knew a lot of communication with somebody new. But you're going to have some backlash over this weekend. It feels like perhaps starting on Friday. Yeah, there's some backlash. I mean, this person, this Queen of Swords is typically someone who's either divorced or they're just... There's a lot of baggage. They don't have to be divorced, but they typically can be. A lot of baggage, a lot of anger, direct callous. There's no love. They're communicating. They want to know what's going on. So yeah, I feel like to let you know that that's kind of showing up here, right? So it looks like there's a transition into some kind of a new beginning with someone new. Maybe a friend or you just connect with someone and it starts. It goes really good. Maybe some of you are getting away from this other person because you're always being accused of things or always being like... This person is very highly anxious. He might have like an anxious attachment. Like the minute that you are not available to them, they accuse you of cheating or they accuse you of lying or sneaking around or juggling others. So I feel like you need to know about this or maybe you already know and you need to know that this person is going to... This other person will be reaching out over this weekend from their anxiety and will be giving you anxiety and stress. Well, that's a tough energy there. That's tough, but you know, what are you going to do, right? If you're breaking up with someone or you have left a relationship because you are wanting to find more of a better foundation with someone where there's an alignment, a soulmate kind of connection. Yeah, there's going to be some backlash. Okay, I keep repeating myself. Let's move on and see what else is going on. Four more cards for you for this situation over the weekend. Okay, four of swords, temperance, Sagittarius energy. Wow, five of cups. Oh, wow, okay. Virgo, looks to me like there's this. I feel like coming from you, there's kind of this. Like, I'm really sorry. There's somebody else and I'm blocking this connection. Okay, there's somebody else that... Look, you see how temperance has two cups here and then the two of cups are here. So I feel like you're going to make a connection with someone that you're in alignment with over this weekend. Okay, like I said, it could be another earth sign. It doesn't have to be. It could be a water sign. It could be fire, but it looks like, yeah. It's kind of like... I'm hearing... Maybe you text the person or you email them or you write them. Like, I regret to inform you. Very formal letter. You feel kind of bad that this other person that you're leaving or that you have to respond to, there's an energy of like feeling some grief about it, but it seems like maybe sorrow or sad that something didn't work out. I feel like that. You're cycling out of something here over this weekend and it's either because you've met somebody new or it's because you're just done and somebody new happens to show up because you're done with a relationship here. Okay, so I kind of feel like that's what's playing out here, especially on Friday. Let me get a couple of... I want to get some Chinese, right? Because we haven't done those like in the first couple of the shorter videos. So let's see what the Chinese sign is of the person that you're connecting with this two of cups. Chinese sign of this person you'll be connecting with over the weekend. For Virgo. Who's Virgo? Connecting with over this weekend their Chinese sign. So it could be one of these. Okay, you have a monkey. You have a horse. Double horse there. You have a rooster. Now also this could be you and the other person. Dragon, you're the dragon. Double dragon. Double monkey. Okay, year of the snake. Year of the goat. Year of the tiger. Year of the dog. So if you don't know this person, this new person, you know their Chinese sign, that's okay. Maybe you'll find out later. But I see a really nice starting connection with somebody new. It's new love. Cycling out of an old relationship or an old connection or dating scenario, whichever it is. Where, yeah, the other person that you're walking away from, that you're breaking the heart, maybe, you know, there is a third party kind of thing happening here. Okay. There's discord. There's an argument. And I see you trying to bring balance to this situation and calm and temperance and not trying to stoke any fires. But it looks like you're coming into alignment with someone new over the weekend. So, I mean, let's take a look and see. Messages of love here. Okay. Vulnerability. So you can be completely open with this person or these two people. And being completely open is the way to go, right? Be open with the new person. Vulnerability is like, you don't want to open up your heart and just be like, here, this is where you can push my buttons to hurt me. It's just vulnerability is like being true to yourself, right? Being open with, if you're ending something with someone or if you have to tell someone again that it's over, be open and honest with that, right? Because I feel like you would like someone to be that way with you, okay? Unless you're in a scenario where you have to keep telling somebody and then it gets to the point where it's like, you know what, maybe you need to block somebody here because they're not getting it. Okay. But you can also be open and honest with the new person as well and share your truth. What else do you have here? Okay. Warning. Don't dismiss some red flags here. So that red flag feels like this other person that is giving you a hard time. Big red flag. Big, big red flag with this other person. That's what I'm saying.  And I feel like that's what the red flag is here. I feel like this person, this X or whatever you want to call them, whoever they are, just throwing massive flags on the field here, you know? And maybe you finally are like, that's it. I'm done with this. I can't do it anymore. I can't because this person just, it's kind of like, if you weren't like, side stepping or stepping out or anything like that with somebody else and they were accusing you of that. I feel like some people are like, you know, if you're going to keep accusing me of that, then I guess that's what I'm just going to have to do because what's it get me even if I don't, you know? So, you know, I don't know exactly what the scenario is, but I do see you cycling out of one thing. I just saw the strictly sexual card. So that past person or the one that you're walking away from, that might have been a very sexual relationship for them. And that person might have misconstrued or got very attached to you because of that where maybe they fell in lust and it wasn't really love. You do have healing, old wounds and childhood issues need revisiting. So you might be getting away from a bad relationship where you want that person to heal. You need to heal. You need to like focus on that right now because something obviously looks like it tore you down. It really does. Looks like it just broke you into pieces. So some of you might have left this relationship a long time ago, like I said, and the person is just still reaching out. Okay, look, you've got put away the computer. So some of you have this connection with somebody new over the weekend that you have a, like I said, you connect with them over the weekend on through the computer. Now, a computer could be your phone, any digital device, but you might also have that digital connection with this other person. I feel like maybe going off the grid over the weekend and you know the full moon in Leo is pretty much like if you feel like you need to disconnect from all negativity, go outside. Disconnect from your devices during this full moon.  Just try to get like some harmony and balance back into your life. Oh, geez. My cards fall all the time. I need like a little person down there to just say, here you go. Hand it up to me. Okay. So you've got rejection. This rejection is actually divine protection. So yeah, so you're being asked to reject the person who's giving you a hard time or they're rejecting you. They could be rejecting you over this weekend, that past person. Kind of like, well, you're doing this and you're doing that. I won't talk to you anymore. And for some of you, it's a blessing in disguise, but the new connection will move towards a sacred union. Healthy. It feels healthy. The two of cups is just exchange, reciprocity, sharing together. So that's like super beautiful.  It's just like, okay, got to end it. Right? Got to end it or disconnect from it. See what other messages there are for you. Oh, okay. Material wish is being granted. Okay, that's nice. Yeah, the past returns. Right? The more you disconnect, the more you cycle out, the more this other person is holding onto you and you might have to go no contact, which is what I see here. Kind of a blocking. No contact energy from a past person that's given you a hard time, Berko. All right, let me see if we can get some initials. Numbers. Okay, someone is 56. The initial W. Okay. Someone was born in 1990. Someone's 34. Someone was born in 1970. Let's get to see if we know what their zodiac sign. Zodiac of the new person. Aquarius. You have Gemini. Capricorn. Zodiac of the past person. Scorpio. Virgo. Taurus. Okay. So keep in mind that when I give you these readings, this is for Virgo sun, moon, rising, or Venus. So you could be a Leo sun, or you could be a Capricorn sun and have Virgo, possibly in your moon or your Venus. Also, Taurus again, Leo and Pisces. Okay. I also have someone is 28. Someone is 47. 1977. Someone's born in November. Okay, we got the letter G. And someone is 65 or born in 1965. Okay, let's get a charm for Friday. We're going to get Friday going through the weekend. Oh my goodness. What that is this? This is... Let me show you. It's a skull with a top hat. What in the heck? That's very goth to me. Or what's that other thing called? Steam pipe? Goth or steam pipe? Maybe somebody has a tattoo of that or is really into like, horror, goth kind of stuff. You know, I know there's a meaning for the skull with a top hat, but I can only intuit what I'm picking up here with this. But you know what? Let me just look because I want to see if anything shows up here. Skull with a top hat meaning. And if you have any inclination to what that might mean, definitely leave a comment or in the chat. I'm going to see if there's any kind of connection to that. What does a skull on a hat mean? Oh, this... Okay, it says... Oh, not that skull on a hat. This is not a skull on a hat. This is a hat on a skull. Oh, guns and roses? Okay. Maybe there's a connection to guns and roses. The band? I'm trying to... You know what? I wouldn't have thought that. I mean, I should know that, right? Shouldn't I? Yeah, I don't know... I don't see anything that's really coming up with a meaning. Yeah, there could be a connection to voodoo, tattoos, maybe a skull cap. Somebody might wear a skull cap. And in Mexican culture, obviously skulls mean death and rebirth. So there could be a Scorpio connection to that, Pluto. Yeah, leave a comment if you guys have any idea what the meaning is or what it means to you. All right, you guys? So let's move on to the next day and see what else is going to come up for you over this weekend. All right, Virgo, let's take a look and see what messages are also coming up. Okay, you have intimacy. Also playing out.  All right, let's take a look. So if you listened to the first part of this reading, cycling out the old and in with the new. So let's see. Oh, wow, Virgo. This weekend looks pretty interesting. You've got the knight of cups. Okay, you've got the king of cups. Now this could be related to the first reading or it could be just on its own, but there is a romantic offer, a romantic, sexual, intimate, loving type of communication from a king of cups, which represents Cancer Scorpio Pisces. Okay, Virgo. This person is very curious about you and I can already see where this reading is going. This kind of makes me feel like this person, they have their eye on you, Virgo, this king of cups. They have their eye on you. This person is in love. They have very strong chemistry. They feel chemistry with you, sexual. They're thinking about the past, perhaps reminiscing about some intimate moments together that you guys might have had. There's going to be some communication. What are you up to? What are you doing? Who are you talking to? Where have you been? Where are you going? A lot of questions. They're asking a lot of questions. All right, now we have the queen of cups. So yeah, masculine or feminine water energy showing up here. And this person, I feel like it's the same person. They're looking into their crystal ball. They could be if they have one, but let me see here. Oh, uh oh. King of Wands is showing up here. What's going on, Virgo? What's going on with this king of wands? Okay, let's see. Oh, okay. So you've got mail. You've got two people showing up here. Okay? Yeah, you do. You've got one person that is going to make a love offer that water energy is coming in. And then you've got this, like it's going to be talking to you or reaching out to you or communicating with you and may propose either, like it's a romantic offer, but it has something to do with intimacy and affection and kissing and opening up and sharing and asking a lot of questions of you. But then you've got a king of wands, which is a fire sign who is coming to the end of a very difficult struggle and is looking out on the horizon in regards to like what's to come. This hangman, I feel like this person's energy, they might be very spiritual and it could be religion. It doesn't have to be. It could just be very spiritual. This person is looking at you in a very different light, okay? And I feel like they're in this waiting position. They're putting stuff out there. I feel like they might have reached out to you before and are waiting to hear back from you. Yeah, okay. So it's not just one person. There's two. You've got two people here. So when I say the king of cups and the king of wands, as always, if the message resonates for you but the signs aren't the same, just take it in stride because that could just be energy. The water sign court cards represent feelings and emotions and the fire sign court card represents action and deliverance and movement. Okay, let me just take a look at you. So you have a king of cups who's, or masculine or feminine who's making a move towards you. There'll be communication over the weekend and romance and feelings and affection and all of that. And then you've got a king of wands showing up here who is physically passive. That's what I want to say. There's not a lot of movement with the king of wands, okay? But they are, it's like ready to go. It's kind of like they got their finger on the trigger. And as soon as some kind of burden, the struggle I'm hearing is done and they're at a peaceful place, then they're ready to look forward to the future, okay? You might have had an intimate connection with the fire or you may have one over this weekend with them. Let me take a look at you, Virgo. Like I always say, you guys, whenever you get a bunch of different court cards showing up then that's telling me there's some other people, other actors in the story. Okay, here we go. So you've got the devil just flipped out in reverse. Capricorn energy. And there's also Pisces here too. So it looks like for you, I'm asking for you over this weekend, you are, there's, there was something that I read once about the devil in reverse that like an article that said it's all about having fun, sexy time. Having a fun, sexy time. So either you're in that energy over this weekend or you are like, you have this, I feel like recovered or recovery kind of energy where you're like not feeling, yeah, that's what it is. It's like I'm not feeling chained or bound to one particular person, but just kind of like, yeah, let's go have a fun, sexy time. Let's go have a good time. It doesn't have to involve the actual physical action of SEX, but it can involve intimacy, kissing. Like it doesn't feel serious. The devil in the upright is like gripping. This feels kind of like lighthearted energy and not feeling possessed or controlled by any outcome or any situation. Okay, so I'm asking about you Virgo. And that's where it's kind of like this light breezy energy over the weekend where you're just like confident, you feel strong, you feel good. You might be getting a lot of attention over this weekend as well. Okay, you have some suitors. And you're not really bound to anyone in particular. Yeah, look at you. I get the nine of pentacles because Virgo's like, I'm all up on my game here.  I'm just saying, you're just basically like, yeah, of course I have suitors. Look at me. No, just kidding. I know that's so materialistic and selfish, or self-centered kind of, but it's like you're good, Virgo.  That's really what I feel like. Not all about yourself in a narcissistic way. It's just all about what's going to make me happy, going on the solo pleasures, doing things for yourself.  I feel like you're very focused on yourself and you're detached. You're not attached to any one person here over this weekend. Yeah, there's a king of pentacles. So that's you.  I'm taking care of business this weekend. That's what I kind of feel like your message is here for you. But otherwise, what's surrounding you external to you is you've got a couple people who are, you have two people who are pretty much heavily into you over this weekend and there will be some communication. Obviously there will be communication from the king or queen of cups reaching out to your messaging you. And as far as the king wants, I feel like they're waiting to hear back from you. Like they'll be waiting to hear back from you. All right, let's see with the Chinese sign. I'm going to just take a look at your Chinese sign, Virgo. What is Virgo's Chinese sign here? Oh, darn. Just give us a little bit of a better shuffle because we've got some doubles showing up that were similar as before. A little bit of a better shuffle here, Virgo. Yeah, this is interesting, but the weekend is all about physical intimacy, sexual chemistry. Okay, definitely. So you might have, if there's two options, which I see here that a choice needs to be made, you're choosing yourself. You're choosing you. You're even going to be choosing another earth sign. Okay, let's see. Some of you could also be on the cusp of Leo Virgo. All right, let's see for Virgo. You could be Year of the Tiger, the monkey. Hold on. I don't want to get doubles. The goat could also be the person or people that you have a connection with. You have a horse. Horse is a horse is a horse, of course. You have the pig and the rat. Okay. Messages of love for this particular reading for Virgo. Oh, okay. You've got a pass. Okay, so you have different pages. You and one person don't share the same vision. You'll have to figure out who that is. You also have a past life love showing up here, too. Okay, so some of you, this could be somebody from the past showing up and somebody new showing up. Okay, keep that in mind. You'll have to figure out which is which. One of them is a soulmate. One of them, you're not really on the same page. There you go. Decision. You may need to decide about a relationship this weekend. That's fine. You may not be actually deciding on anything over the weekend, which is why I was saying, it seems like you're kind of focused on you. Just because the cards say it's time to decide, doesn't mean it has to be right now, you know? Other messages here for Virgo. Okay, moving to a safe place. So some of you might just be like, look, I'm focusing on like relocating over this weekend or I'm moving or I just want to be on my own. Okay, you've got positive vibes. So this is good. This is a sun energy. Have fun. Enjoy your life this weekend. Keep the focus on you and your playfulness. Just love your life this weekend. Some of you have a financial decision you need to focus on over this weekend as well, which I did feel like that was showing up. You might be focusing on work or just doing your taxes or whatever. You could be in just complete business mode over this weekend. I don't feel like for you, love is really a priority over the weekend. Maybe it's a sweet, nice, sweet thing, but there's a love offer. And the love offer feels like it's mostly coming from the king of cups. Okay, Virgo, your messages sometimes. Let's get some, see what else we have here for initials. So when I say king, I always have to reiterate it's masculine or feminine. King of cups or queen of cups. Okay, you got the letter D. You have a G and you have a Y. We have the number 66. We have the month someone's birthday is in February. You have 37 and 38. Okay, you have 88, 27, and that feels like August 27th birthday. The number 55, 71, September 13th, September 5th, letter A. September 18th, the number 50, you have an R. So they're just saying, are you getting gas right now? You're listening to this reading? Are you in your car filling up? How much is it? How much is the gas where you're at? And I'm just, they gave me the word star. Okay, somebody is a star, or it's just a connection to a star. It could be an actual star. It could be like a star. It could be an Aquarius. And now they're just saying an Aquarius rat. An Aquarius rat. Okay, and some of you, they're telling me five years. Five years. Okay, they're showing me a vision of someone who's out in their backyard right now. Doing something in the yard. Maybe you're just walking through the yard. Or a front yard, back yard, walking through a yard. Or doing something in a yard. All right, let me get some Chinese signs. I mean, some zodiac signs here. Is any other zodiac sign here showing up for Virgo? All right, Taurus, Libra, and Aries. Aquarius, Libra, Libra, and Sagittarius. All right, and a charm for Virgo. Okay, they gave you two. They're showing you two. Okay. So, you have a snowflake. So maybe you're going to get snow over this weekend. Big snow going forward. Or you already have snow. You're in a snowy area. Someone calls someone a snowflake. Or a flower. You also have forever. Okay. Forever. Hmm, Virgo. What does that mean for you? Somebody might have that tattoo to written like Sanskrit or a script somewhere. The word forever. Or someone says they want to be with you forever. Okay. It could be a king of cups. Since they're making that love offer. We're meant to be forever and ever. Or you have a tattoo, like mom. Or something forever and ever. Or see it somewhere over this weekend. All right, Virgo. I'm going to leave that portion there for you. And we're going to move on to the next. All right, Virgo. Let's go on to your final reading here. Let's take a look and see what message is. Showing up here for your weekend. And or going forward. Oh, okay. You've got patience. Just a few more months. Good things come to those who wait. Wow. All right. What's going on here, Virgo? We're telling you to be patient right now. All right. Let's take a look and see what does Virgo need to be patient about a few more months. Just wait a few more months and that good thing is going to come to you. What good thing? What's this good thing for Virgo? Okay. It's just flipped out. Wow. Just like last time. Okay. I always feel like this card, this Queen of Pentacles is like, she's looking at something. She's studying something. She's inquisitive. She's trying to understand something here. Okay. All right. So this kind of feels like something that you're working on, Virgo, and it might have something to do with your finances or just being independent and solo. They're saying wait a couple more months. The magic, that's when the magic's going to happen. So it feels like maybe your career or your money, your finances, you might be looking at your money or you're studying something or it's something to do. It's all about the coins. Some kind of magical, some magic. Find a magic bean. Okay. Oh yeah. And I was just saying studying. And there's a three of pentacles. So that represents school. So there might be maybe graduating or getting a diploma or a degree or it could be you or somebody else. So a few more months would be, did I say few? Yeah. A few more months. We're in January going into February, March, April. This has something to do with a child or children, studying school, apprenticeship, maybe a startup for a business. It's all about blueprints. It could be about building a home. I feel like they're really just saying wait, just wait a few more months for these things. Because if you're working on something right now and it doesn't look like it's going to happen, it's not time yet. The magic is going to happen. If you're trying to manifest something or make something work out in your life right now, like today, you could be applying for a loan or maybe you're looking at your credit score or maybe you have to finish some classes thinking like oh, let me just pile them on now so I can get them done. The reward, the magic of all of that, what you're putting out there isn't coming to fruition until a few more months. Maybe just keep an eye on things, but I feel like it's just not time yet for the result to come in. It's not going to happen just yet. That's okay. They're asking you to be patient. That's what that's starting out with as far as money and that kind of stuff. Now you have an unknown situation showing up here with King of Cups. They're not fully revealing something and it looks like you have to be patient. It could be about their feelings or their deepest emotions. It could have something to do with taking some action or some direction. They may not be sure what direction they're going to go or if they're going to go when they're going to go, how they're going to go. There's something going on with the King of Cups that's behind the scenes that they are trying to sort out and it's in regards to direction, in regards to you. Maybe you're seeking answers from a King of Cups. You want some where's this going kind of thing. They will know. They'll figure it out. It's going to take a little bit of time even if it has to do with travel or a trip together. It's going to take a little bit of time that Moon card. It gives me Pisces vibes. Pisces is kind of like going with the flow right now. You're saying you need to be patient with a King of Cups as far as what they're planning or what they're something to do with travel. There you go and plans. It's not time right now. A few more months. You're waiting so if you have this person in an energy, water energy or an actual water sign, cancer, Pisces and so plans will be made. It's just a timing thing. I feel like it's a timing thing. I just saw the world. It's all about timing and something new beginning, a new chapter. I feel like this King of Cups wants a new chapter to start something new cycle out of something from the past and have something beginning with you. Maybe you guys are at a distance here across water for some of you or just at a distance from each other. You don't have to be, could just kind of be like in a different town as well. But there's something I feel like this King of Cups here is they're not revealing and for some of you they're kind of keeping things hush hush right now. For some of you this person that they're going to make change in a positive direction they're cycling out of something and coming your way. So that's another message here. So again it has to do with being patient. Patience doesn't mean wait. Patience just means things will happen when they're mental. So let me just do what I'm doing. It doesn't mean holding the phone.  You know how waiting is frustrating when you're not patient right? You're sitting in the doctor's office you know your appointment is at 2.30 it's now 10 minutes after 3. You haven't been in they haven't seen you yet. You know that can be frustrating because you're not saying anything to you right? I don't feel like it's that kind of scenario and I feel like if you're in that kind of scenario then you just need to distract yourself if you're in that position of waiting to hear something from someone.  I need to be in. You don't want to put your whole world on hold you just want to keep it moving in your own life right?  Is there any other messages here regarding patients for Virgo? So you've got the four of cups you've got temperance you've got the seven of cups and you've got the eight of pentacles timing is it play here? Definitely. I kind of see as far as like all other areas of your life love career just life in general stuff I feel like you're kind of here like not sure what to do right? You're questioning should I put effort in to something should I like be consistent and put my effort in with a person place or a thing or should I go someone and just leave it alone should I just be indifferent about something should I detach should I look at other options or should I just be patient yeah so I kind of feel like you feel like you need to do something you feel like you have to do something you might have this sense of urgency and I feel like that's why patience is coming up you might feel like you need to fix something you have to do you don't have to do anything you just have to let energy flow to you that's all I feel like don't put yourself in this position of needing to control an outcome just leave something be yeah because I kind of feel like you're like okay should I do this or should I not do this and then if I don't do this what will be the result is overthinking temperance is just saying pace yourself everything in moderation everything will come to you when it's meant to in divine timing and you don't have to do anything you know all the good stuff I believe for you Virgo that happens in your life happens because you don't have your hands in it really and those are the gifts that you even if you had your hands in it the gifts right the gifts that come down from spirit what other messages are there here for you oh that just flew right out oh you've got intuition you already know the answer you seek and I feel like the answer that you're seeking is because you think you have to do something the answer is just trust your intuition and just let things flow that's all you will know when you know you've got vulnerability so as far as another person you can be completely open you just had that so I feel like that's a double strong message that you need to hear you also have rejection again so if you have some kind of rejection or you're feeling rejected right now that's a sign of protection for you you're being protected from something and I feel like that's kind of like don't do anything you know if you get rejected if you get rejected by a person, place or saying don't try to change or mold that rejection don't try to beg or plead or because of the rejection just take one for the team Virgo just be like alright next time alright I lost on this one that's okay something better will come along I feel like that's like the strongest message here for you patient with yourself as well you know sometimes that rejection leads to something better you know okay someone is gripped in this connection someone in this connection is gripped by obsessive thoughts okay that could be you Virgo you might be feeling obsessive about that's why patience is here like breathe exhale you need to exhale over something here it's going to come it's going to happen for you like a career thing this life thing when you let go of it is generally when it comes to you and you have trust it's safe to trust in this situation so that's really a strong message for you just trust the process just trust the process Virgo you don't need to worry about anything just be patient worrying is just going to make your head hurt and waste time alright if you're a highly logical male if you're a Virgo male use your logical brain not your emotional brain you could do that if you're a Virgo female as well masculine or feminine and some of you need to hit rock bottom and you know what that means surrender that's what it is some of you just need to surrender to something and just kind of make your mantra for this weekend is the week or just your life if it's meant for me it will not pass me by that's all and just be happy just relax you also have hope okay I always like to say hope for the best expect the worst expect the worst but hope for the best then you have a nice balance trust but verify trust the process when you wish upon a star maybe you need to make some of those wishes when you let go and you just practice patience your hope, faith and wishes will be restored okay and you make a wish right now believing that it is yours right so I don't know if that makes sense I'm actually kind of looking at when I created these cars and I'm like whoa I need to make a new deck I think I'm going to make a new deck who here would like to get a new deck from me I'm going to make a new one here just for House of Virgo just for you guys let me take a look one more message here okay some of you I will say and I've said it before are seeking to buy a new home or secure a loan or a mortgage or a home it's going to come just not right now now is that the time maybe you need to wait until the market shifts downward prices go down rates go down hopefully they will I don't know I'm not a money person as far as that stuff goes finances I don't study that but keep an eye on it you know I keep an eye on it but I do feel like that's like a message even if you're just looking to move or relocate or you can't find anything right now something's going to come up for you you're going to be able to secure a home whether that's purchase or rent or whatever it might be at least okay these messages I'll tell you what I'm just going to get some other oh wow oh I love this 68 is showing up here the letter H 50 35 24 so these could be birth dates, ages whichever let's see someone is saying I just heard someone is telling me to tell you to say hi it's telling me to tell you they are saying hi or someone is trying to say hi to you okay let me see who it is there's a sign for some it's a Taurus for some it's a Sage and for some it's a Pisces or they're saying hello to you okay you have the letter T okay September 16th, significant day birthday oh you have the letter B oh I just heard Beth or Elizabeth um September 3rd August 26th okay 61 for your charm Burgl you have like a bow tie or a ribbon okay so this could be it's so funny because so I have um I have a Infinity symbol tattoo on my foot and the person that did it many many many years ago was very heavy handed and he tried to make it look like an Infinity symbol but he made it actually look like a bow and I never got it fixed and the reason I never got it fixed is because it's a really painful place to have a tattoo and I don't you know I don't know what I was thinking at the time but I just really wanted it so it was supposed to be like Japanese blossoms on a tree with the Infinity symbol and it turned out looking just like that minus the two little pieces down here at the bottom I don't know maybe I should go get it fixed but I just I can't deal that was so painful because on the top of my foot that's the most pain I think I would birth 10 babies before I would do that again that was really a glutton for punishment I guess but um there is a bow tie here so there may be a gift coming to you um maybe you have like a bow tie tattoo somewhere and I'm also hearing let's wrap this up so I'm going to leave your reading there um again if you want to get a personal reading you 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Thank you for asking me that first question. You know, I thought that my words were what mischaracterized, I think I would say, as they were repeated. What I was saying very clearly was, you know, the nature of our company is such that it's all about the people in the culture. And anybody who wanted to buy our company would be doing so, they would first of all have to pay a significant premium, you know, much above what typical other just, you know, sort of your run-of-the-mill company would take, because we have such a dedication to purpose and such a history of operating. We are not in this to sell. People ask me all the time, you know, what's your exit? What's your plan? We don't have one. We've been operating this for over 20 years and we intend to be operating it for decades to come. So what I was saying very precisely was if anybody was going to buy us, it would because they recognized that the way that we operated was the way telecom should be operated, not the way it is operated. You know, we believe that what we're doing is really being the first company to bring internet sensibilities to telecom. And if somebody, if a big company, you know, trying to imagine this today, you know, we have the most satisfied customers in the world in mobile phone service today. Our internet customers are happier than our phone customers. You heard from supporters of both sides who actually, you know, are pretty satisfied customers of ours, you know. And if somebody, if a big company were to buy us and put us in charge and say, you know, what you guys do is the way this should be done, that would be to everyone's benefit. Because then what you would have is us taking what we do, which is putting customers and employees first and having that spread more broadly. And that's a good thing. And you know, Councillor Tracy, you've spoken a couple times about fiduciary obligation.  This is going out to the world. Anything I say here, I promise you. I have investors sitting at home right now watching. I will say here what I say to them, which is that we think that if we make our obligation, our employees' happiness and satisfaction and our customers' happiness and satisfaction, that investors benefit. But not by putting them first, but by putting employees and customers first. The people who invest in our company understand that. Second question about CCTV, if you want to. But I'd like you to answer my first question, which was how do you, how in the event of a sale would you be able to make sure that the public criteria are maintained? That was my question. What you asked me was what my words were, all that other stuff. So that's your philosophy and that's fine. But I'm asking about the public criteria. Anybody who would buy us would be bound by the terms of our agreement and relationship with you guys. Full stop. Onto CCTV, we had a nice conversation about that earlier today. We are, not only do we support what CCTV does generally. I'm thrilled with the way that it is here in Burlington. I was describing it as, this is my new binge watching because I've watched hours and hours now of this CCTV channel. We're in a number of other markets today. And we have to negotiate video agreements with city staff. We've had now multiple occasions, three that come to mind right away, where what we see the incumbent lawyers doing is negotiating down the number of CCTV channels that they want to provide in their renewal agreements. We go to those cities and we say, how many do you want? We're happy to provide you with more. How can we help that at a facilities level? We think it's a great opportunity for people to connect with the community and speak directly. So it's something we support and we would expect to expand on whatever existing Burlington telecom is doing. Thank you. OK. Councilor Roof and we can also just do debate. So the open format here. You're on. Thank you, President Nodell. In coming into tonight's meeting, if I were to have guessed that I would not have ever guessed that this was that both of these gentlemen would be at literally at the same table chit-chatting and not listening to me. Gentlemen. And Mr. Matson, if Mr. Mr. Matson, could you stay at the tailpiece? OK, I guess I was trying to sneak away, man. No, I'll sneak in away. I want to take this opportunity and I do have remarks planned. But I think this was unplanned. And so I'm going to go off my script for just a moment. First, to Mr. Matson, we talked today on the phone. I called you a little after 4 p.m. To inform you, you know, from from me to you that I would be supporting the Ting offer and we had a really positive conversation. And I just want to say thank you for the work that you've done. We've got I've got to see it. We've all got to see it. Not just in the bid, not just in the details, but throughout the community. I have a lot of respect for you. I just wanted to be clear with that. Mr. Noss, when I visited with with your with your organization in Toronto, I want to be clear, you did not impress me. But stick with me. That's not an insult. You were very hospitable, hospitable, your staff, very professional. You articulated your thoughts and ideas very well for most of the time. Tonight, sir, you did impress me. Not with what you've said, but I something I witnessed you do while public comment was going on. There was a customer that came up and talked about how their their bill what they want to happen with their billing. And I think when no one was watching, you snuck around and talk to her for a moment, and I think you gave her your phone number. I'm not sure if that happened, but I think I think it did. And I do have a question about about that philosophy in a moment. But I just wanted to say that was impressive. And that is what I took away from my visit to Toronto. Were those intangibles sneaking away when no one was looking and talking to the customer service rep or talking to one of the engineers to see what they thought about working for the organization? I do think I left that meeting that that day on the 27th, having a good understanding of the type of person, the type of people that work for your organization. We also in I provided the council and the public with a write up from the major some major points from the Q&A discussion, which I'm not going to go through point by point given the hour. But I do want to ask you to talk about one thing that we talked about that some of us talked about in Toronto, which was your experience and your staff's experience in meeting with the current Bronx and telecom employees. Could you give an account or a characterization from your perspective of of how that went and what it means to you to be employing folks that right now work for the city of Brooklyn? You know, I so I I I mentioned earlier how impressed I was with them. I talked about what I said to them. I talked about how there was an immediate culture fit. I they're here and I really I'm a bit hesitant to try and put words in their mouth. So I'm going to I'm going to make these statements. Not these are these are my statements. So I want to get your characterization of your experience. You know, I felt like they are the people who are, you know, kind of in the middle of this tug of war. You know, we talked for a long time. There was a two plus hour question and answer session. I think that we and there was four of us there categorically came away believing that not only, you know, were they just the kind of employees that we wanted to join us and to work with us. Not only were they a great culture fit, but that the things that we felt like we could bring to them to help them do their jobs better were exactly the kind of things that they were looking for. And these were simply, you know, these were more technical than anything else. They were they were technologies and practices that applied to the customer service function, the billing function, the building and mapping of five or the outside plant function.  And I think the best way to think about that is in all of our jobs, we have an element or a portion, some portions of the of that work that is a bit dreary and repetitive. You know, when you when you are able to bring efficiencies to that work and you take out those things that stand in the way of doing what you love to do, you know, that's helping people, that's building and connecting, you know, the fiber plant up to more places. You know, I think that that that your work just becomes more enjoyable. And so, I mean, again, I'll just speak from our perspective, you know, which was that we really came away from that feeling like there was just a, you know, a beautiful match there. Thank you. Oh, you're moving off now? Okay. Counselor Dean. First, I'd like to express my thanks to Mr. Noss for a very informative and insightful visit to his two cows headquarters in Toronto. I thought the day was very informative about the company and they and Mr. Noss and his team dealt with some very difficult questions that I think really helped me understand your philosophy toward this business and toward the people that work with you. I also would like to say thanks, you thank Mr. Massen for meeting with us over the weekend and, you know, sharing his thoughts with us about his his bid and the KBTL bid for the company. But I have a specific question for you, Mr. Massen, one of the things that was particular concern to me and expressed to you in the last meeting was a very minimal amount of working capital available to KBTL and I noted positively in materials that were provided to us that you believe that you have secured a guaranteed line of credit for working capital. I think of three months that is secured by from a local financial institution and is guaranteed by a third party deposit from another investor. Yeah. Can you, as far as I know, can you say who those parties are and are there any agreements that you have written that you can share with us that provide us assurance that you really do have that? Probably not because the third party investor has said that, you know, only in the case of us being selected, you know, does the money get committed and will the third party commit to that? They are not investing in us directly. They've been very clear about that, but they would do that to help with the working capital. They see it as a much less risky and a different sort of investment in the, you know, they're not looking to put direct equity and they're not looking to put direct loan in, but they would do that. And unfortunately, I can't do any more than that for you. As I think I stated before, there have been a lot of things that we haven't talked about that we work on. And this is one where I will talk about it because, you know, unfortunately I can't give you paper, but I'm not going to fall down on that. We aren't falling down on that. I'll set, Councillor Dean, I need a motion. We need a motion to suspend the rules, um, to keep working, which requires a two thirds vote. Um, we have also a local control commission meeting to do. So possibly a motion to suspend the rules to finish this item, um, and to do the local control commission meeting. Counselor Shannon, um, I make that motion. Thank you. Second from Councilor Roof. I'll in favor of that motion. Please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great. Okay. So we can keep working. Um, so any more questions for either Mr. Madsen or, or, or Mr. Noss and let's do, finish that up and then we can get to council debate. Um, I'm going to go with Shannon and then Jane. Thank you, President Nodell. Mr. Noss, um, we did have the pleasure of spending some time together in Toronto on Friday. And I, um, noted that tonight you, you said that, um, whatever you say is on the record here and your investors are watching. So I want to make sure we get you on the record here. Though Katie Jickling was in the room when you said everything in Toronto. Um, but some of the things that we talked about, um, there was a concern, I'm going to go through a list here and then let you respond. Um, there was a concern that you would shed the video and telephone service. Uh, and, and I'd like you to speak to that. Um, we talked about the lifeline program and you brought up some, um, ideas about how to better serve the low income community with one gig service. Um, and like, yeah, on the record there, these are some things that are not actually in the LOI, um, and the employee benefits, um, today 50% of the employees, my understanding is 50% of the employees get retirement benefits. And, um, you, you told us that, uh, you expect that 100% of the employee would be getting retirement benefits under Ting and that's it. Thank you. So I'll, I'll deal with the last one first. What we were, what we were talking about in Toronto, wasn't a retirement benefits, it was short term disability and long term disability, if I believe, or that some significant portion of the existing BT employees weren't covered under the same benefit plan that included what I remember was short term and long term disability.  So that was that third point, um, on the, uh, the first point. So, you know, we've been working on a, uh, video service internally, uh, for the last 18 months. We've in fact, to some degree delayed the launch of that service, uh, because of this process, you know, we would, we had a plan to, uh, we'll have a head end in the east of the Mississippi and west of the Mississippi. And it made sense that if we were going to be successful here, that we would want to wait, there is already a head end here and we could naturally make that, uh, video, uh, kind of hub for the eastern part of the country. Um, we are not planning, uh, you know, as, as some have, uh, to get rid of video. We think that, that, um, existing video. So when I say that, I mean, traditional cable TV service, um, is, um, uh, something that's going to still be around for 10, 15, 20 years despite cord cutting, you know, we all know people who, who love watching traditional cable TV and we view, uh, uh, cable TV as, uh, being something that just improves the take rate of the fiber. We view, uh, fiber and internet access as strategic and we view video as something tactical that supports that. So we would be loath to get rid of that with telephone, um, in our, and now I'm talking about landline VoIP service, um, in our other markets, we have not had our customers asking for it. We would certainly continue to support it here here as, uh, as, as in other markets that we've looked at, um, you know, there's, it's provided by a third party. We would intend to maintain that. Uh, here you have a nice large install base around that service. We would in no way shape or form want to get rid of it. And, you know, I think that, that, that most importantly, you know, the, the, the, we're not, uh, fussed by having, uh, uh, differences, market to market that we're in. We're only in five markets now. This would be, if we were lucky enough, this would be the sixth, assuming we don't launch any others between now and then. And finally with lifeline, um, you know, lifeline, the existing lifeline program, particularly around fixed internet as access is abysmal. What we have is incumbents continually lobbying to reduce what lifeline is. I think that successfully after a brief period where lifeline was going to be raised to 25 megabits down and three megabits up, the incumbents have successfully lobbied to have that cut down to 10 megabits down and one megabit up. That's not sufficient today in our view to be competitive. We think that we should explore different options. What we talked about in Toronto is something that's been a project of mine that I've spoken with a couple of the cities that we're in, we're in discussion around and we hope to have a trial in one of our markets a little later this year where what we do is we work with the city and local foundations with us being a significant contributor to this. And instead of providing a lesser service for some small amount of money, we should provide a gigabit symmetrical for 1999. So I'm, you know, this is an active vibrant community. You won't find a city that's more interested in public interest than Burlington. I think that's proven with a night like tonight. And we think that it's, again, a great place to model something that can be modeled for the rest of the country. So, I mean, if there was more or more detail that we went into, but I think that the most important elements there are actually, you know, rather than taking, you know, digital divide and focusing on how little we can give, we should be looking at doing this in a way that really creates opportunities on a fair basis and on an equal footing. Thank you. My apologies. I thought you had said that BT employees would be covered by your 401k. Oh yeah. Sorry, that's right. There is a 401k match program that we have. They would be covered by that. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Councilor Jang. Thank you. I have two questions and one for each, but I would also want to start before that to say thank you for everyone for coming out and for the best behavior ever. This is wonderful. My first question will go to Mr. Alan. And I mean, I would like you to please talk about the vision you have for Burlington Telecom, not buying it and making it into a co-op with the vision you see for Burlington in the next 30, 40, 50 years and also to talk about your plans in moving the equipment because it was not on the LOIs, moving the equipment in terms of timeline from the Memorial auditorium. Two questions. Yeah. So let me start with the second question first. Within the information that we get when we're evaluating a purchase like this within the data room, there is a fairly well spelled out need to move the equipment that is currently in Memorial auditorium in large part because the status of Memorial auditorium is up in the air as you all know. And it's approximately a million dollar project by what we have seen in the documentation. The view would be that that could be done in our discussions over a two-year period. So while it doesn't say that it's in the LOI, there is $500,000 in each of the first two years in our forward-looking pro-forma financials to facilitate that move. I think that that's a move that I think everybody probably understands who put offers in and would probably be looking at do it in a somewhat similar fashion. I think there's also some uncertainty about whether or not that needs to happen, but if Memorial auditorium is going away, everybody will need to do it. We expect that we will need to do it. But on the other hand, there's always possibility that it doesn't happen, but more than likely it will. You know, as far as the vision and you talk out 30 years, I think that there's an aspect of the internet pipeline that is truly becoming much more of utility than, you know, perhaps even electricity. It is a way we all connect with the world.  It's available to everyone within your community. And the excitement and the services that it can provide likewise. And this is not just for residences, but it's also for businesses. And so a group that is leading this utility needs to make sure that it is doing the kinds of things that the community is asking for out of this. And, you know, the analogy, as someone pointed out between Burlington Electric and Burlington Telecom is not perfect, but if you think about what we're able to do with Burlington Electric as we own it, we are able to go out and have entirely renewable resources providing the electricity for Burlington Electric. We've been able to work on many efficiency projects with Burlington Electric. Many things that have been good for the community, maybe not exactly what a traditional regulated utility would do, but those are the kinds of things that over the long run as the internet remains and becomes, you know, even more important that we would be able to build the services off the internet. I think there's a lot of standard thinking along the lines of what's going to happen with all the different internet appliances within our homes and how, you know, pretty much every home at some point being offered gigabit services will allow for there to be all different sorts of controls and behaviors with the living spaces that we have, but I think even more importantly, we'll have a local network that connects us all and I think what comes out of a network that connects us all can be services between businesses and among businesses, between people and among people, and as well as I think there's gonna be significant opportunity in creating content because the content is what is gonna flow over this and I think there is going to be, while video will remain a part of the package and it draws customers in, it is something where we really pass through the costs really of the commodity and I think we're seeing that the revenue going to our content creators, like people providing the video streams this evening, there's gonna need to be a change in that model and I think that's something that our group has talked about that we need to get in front of and that change is gonna go from a regulated area of our business which is cable into an unregulated area of our business such as the internet and so I think that we need to be looking as the markets change and how these other pieces change, what else can we provide for the community and the cooperative world basically asks three questions. It asks to whom, for what price, to what end and I think that all of that being based on the community, we wanna make sure that we're providing the highest level of services at the prices that make sense for the community and to what end is really to build both the residential as well as the business community and make Burlington thrive. Thank you. Thank you for coming to Burlington and quick question for you is what are your policies around hosting white supremacist website or neo-Nazi website? What are your policies you have around? Thank you for asking me that question because I've heard you speak on this issue a few times. So you used a very particular word there and I think that's important, you said hosting. We don't host any white supremacist websites. We have a domain registration platform. Domain registration is core internet infrastructure. One of the ironies of this whole debate as it's existed in the context of Burlington Telecom is that we've been both accused of promoting or supporting white supremacists and of being somebody who would be a threat to net neutrality. The fact that we keep our domain registration platform neutral is us demonstrating in the midst of a very public business process how much we support what we do. Now I wanna not just talk about the fact that we support net neutrality and I should note I have been a public active supporter of open internet causes for the duration of my 20 years in the internet, greater than 20 years. We, the company, me as an individual, have signed numerous letters that have been submitted on behalf of tech groups supporting net neutrality organized by people like the ACLU or the EFF. In the middle of this process we stuck to our guns. Despite what people said about us, despite what people accused us of, despite the multiple articles that were written in the local press about this, we stuck to our guns and I want you to understand why. Because what happens, this is net neutrality now, not free speech, we can talk, we can have a separate discussion about free speech. What happens when controls are placed on core infrastructure like domain registration is it is invariably used against people who are protesting political causes, against dissident groups, and against the very people that I think you and I would share great concern for. You know, we have the second largest domain registration platform in the world, over 30 million names. We're under attack, literally, cyber attack every day. Very often we'll be spending tens and hundreds of man-hours to keep a site that belongs to a protest group in a country that has a dictatorship because they're paying people to take that site down. I personally have been involved in the ICANN process, which is the regulator of domain names, since there's been an ICANN process, since the late 90s. On one side tends to be governments, law enforcement, intellectual property interests, and on the other side tends to be non-commercial interests and myself along with some other registrars. Our record is long and public on this. I understand that for most people, and I totally appreciate this. You know, if I take a step back, we've been in the domain registration business since there's been one. My mother still doesn't understand what I do. My partner still doesn't understand what I do. Most of my friends still don't understand what I do. People do see it as hosting. We have had numerous inbound around all of these issues from people who want us to take that down. What we do is we help them get in touch with the hosting company, and we help them get in touch with the resellers who are the proper parties for those protests. I think that, again, our record around net neutrality is long and clear. And our record around supporting public interest causes not supporting white supremacists is also long and clear. Thanks for giving me a chance to straighten that out. Any other questions for either Mr. Matson or Mr. Noss? Thank you very much for being available for questions. I have councilor Wright, I believe now. Thank you, President O'Dell. I did have a question for Mayor Weinberger, but he has momentarily disappeared. He's back. We presumably may be facing a vote here at some point tonight, and I expect it could go one vote one way or the other. So I'm going to ask a question, and I totally respect if the mayor chooses not to answer this. And then I have a question for the city attorney. If a vote passes KBTL through to your desk, Mr. Mayor, would you sign that or veto that? Councilor Wright, I appreciate the question. I think I've made my concerns and my appreciation for KBTL's efforts and leadership in many ways clear. I would have to look very carefully at what actually gets to the desk before finally making that decision. I can't give you a final answer tonight. Thanks, and the city attorney, if a vote were cast that the mayor did veto and that vote was sustained by the council, where would that leave us in the process? I just would like to know that, if such an event should. You're saying that if the council voted for a particular option, the mayor vetoed that, came back to the council and the council overrode that veto? No, if the council sustained the veto. Meaning that there was the veto stood. The veto stood. And then the city would not have taken any action and there would have to be some decision making about what would happen then.  The council and the mayor, I think, would both be involved in thinking about what would, how the city would proceed from there. Thank you. I am going to make a motion to reconsider my vote to postpone action from earlier. I think that I made a mistake in not voting to postpone action now. I think that we're winding on and on into the night and I think that this is gonna be a very difficult vote and I think some of the issues that were raised were legitimate and I think that a, having voted in assuring the president and council that I voted in the prevailing side, I would like to reconsider that vote and reconsider the option to postpone action. Okay, a motion to reconsider does require a second. As a second comes from councilor Hartnett. And the way this process works and the city attorney will assist me is that if this vote has to prevail with the majority and if it does, then we would revote the motion to postpone. Does everyone understand the process? Yes. Yes, councilor Tracy. And how much does a vote to postpone need? Simple majority. Simple majority? Yes. So floors, and this is a debatable motion, I believe. So motion is open, the floor is open on the motion to reconsider. Councilor Hartnett is the seconder, I'll let you go. I appreciate councilor Wright's consideration here. I think it's a wise move. I think we have a lot to consider after what we heard tonight. And I know there's people here that say we owe it to the people that are here tonight and for the people that traveled eight hours. I feel that we owe it to ourselves, that we get all the right information, that we know what's really facing us and we don't have it. And I take issue with the mayor that says 10 people are the only ones issue we're already here to vote tonight. That is not true. I think everybody at this table is ready to vote as long as they know what's ahead of them and their responsibility. And some of the things that have gone on here just in the last day and the last two hours before this meeting. I forgot to mention that. Ting said another proposal earlier this morning that quite honestly, I never saw because I was working all day. And for this council to make this decision, the biggest decision we're probably gonna make and to make it based on some of the actions that again, that I have in here tonight. Okay, Councilor Shannon mentioned, oh, it's very often that a council will just decide that they have a conflict of interest and they're gonna sit out. That is true. Not two hours before a meeting or the final vote. I've never heard of that before. You know you have a conflict of interest interest long before that. And votes were taken up to this process where that conflict of interest, I'm sure existed. And I think that puts us in some legal jeopardy. And I'm not comfortable moving forward tonight. I'll say it again. I think it's not responsible of this council to move forward tonight to cast a vote. I don't care who you're voting for. Ting, KVTL, it's not responsible for us to do it. So I hope you guys will reconsider the ones that voted no to postpone. I think it's wise for us to do it. So the floor's open on the motion to reconsider. Councilor Mason. Thank you, President O'Dell. May I either have your indulgence or make a motion for a brief recess to discuss? Yes, we can recess. Brief recess. Yeah, no, I'm glad to do it. Okay, do I have Councilor Jiang? Councilor Jiang, okay. So we were in, if memory serves, we were on the motion to reconsider and are we prepared to vote on the motion to reconsider the motion to postpone from earlier this meeting? Are we ready for that? Okay, it has been seconded, I believe. Yes, Hartnett's seconded. Okay, all in favor of the motion to reconsider the earlier motion to postpone, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No, can you just raise your hand if you're opposed? So we have more Tracy and Busher and all others in support, so that motion to reconsider carries. Okay, so this time the motion to postpone is in order and I have Councilor Hartnett for that. I'd like to make a motion to adjourn to next Monday, November 6th, to continue the same order of business. Time specific, sure. City Attorney Blackwood, do we need to do the motion to postpone before we do that? You do not. Okay. All right, thank you. Can you repeat the motion, Councilor? The motion would be, excuse me, the motion would be to adjourn time certain, Monday the 6th for the same order of business. So it's the motion to adjourn to a time certain, Monday, November 6th, 7 p.m., to continue the same order of business. Is there a second? Councilor Wright seconded that. So just to clarify, that means that we would come back on Monday and just pick up this meeting right where we are right now. This would be as if we were just continuing this meeting. This is a debatable motion. Councilor Shannon. Thank you, President Nodell. Just to clarify, because we're picking up this item where we're leaving off, we would not then be planning or required to have a public forum, the public forum from what we've had today continues to hold. And we would continue the council debate. I am hoping that we could include in that an invitation to BT employees to speak and that they would be encouraged in the meantime to communicate with city councilors. I know that I've talked to several BT employees and while they very much want to share their thoughts, they also are understandably nervous about doing that publicly. So I think it would be helpful if we encourage them to contact city councilors as well as give them an opportunity to speak at the next meeting. So the floor is, so do people understand that the very thorough public forum we had tonight would essentially be, they required public forum for that meeting and it would allow the council to jump right into debate at that time. The floor is open. Did you, was your hand up, Councilor Roof? Councilor Roof. Yes. I voted to reconsider and I'm still not sure whether I'm going to vote in support of the delay. One group that I asked about earlier that I think has been lingering on all of our minds is the staff at Bronson Telecom. She just mentioned it. And I wonder what it might feel like to be someone who works at BT right now and going through all of this. And I just want one more, to provide one more opportunity to anyone from the Bronson Telecom staff to chime in on this. Thank you. Councilor Roof. Okay, I can see that you're looking for recognition. Are you wanting to come forward and speak? Okay, please come forward. Thank you, Councilor Roof. My name is Abby Taikaki. I am an employee of Burlington Telecom. However, my comments tonight are my own and do not represent the views of my employer. But with their permission, I'm also speaking on behalf of fellow staff members, Stacey Trudeau and Dawn Monahan, who've reviewed this statement. Thank you everyone for staying a few minutes later to hear what I have to say. I would first like to acknowledge the members of KBTL, most of whom are ardent and loyal Burlington Telecom customers for their years of support. I would like to thank the management team of Ting for taking the time to meet with us and share their vision. I heard President Nodell mention that the council is under a lot of stress. I hope you'll forgive me for not feeling terribly sympathetic to that cry as the stress around this process appears to have been mostly self-manufactured. Instead, I am heartbroken and resigned the fact that there is nothing that I or any of my coworkers could say that could sway your votes, which are apparently not going to happen tonight. I've been disappointed by invitations for the staff to have a voice in this process, all of which have been half-hearted at best and some requests for meetings have been denied. We've also, as a staff, been largely discouraged from speaking up throughout this process. I joined Burlington Telecom only two years ago. The hard work had already been done. The settlement had been reached and I was welcomed onto a team of dedicated and loyal city employees working with lean staffing and carefully allocated resources to deliver on our charge of making BT attractive to potential buyers. And while not many people were paying attention, Burlington Telecom became so much more than anyone ever thought it could be. That happened because every single member of the staff of Burlington Telecom worked holidays and overtime and did whatever was necessary to achieve our goals. This public process has indeed been very long, but the information has always been available to anyone who cared to know about it. And I speak tonight not to offer my opinions on the bidders, though we do all have very strong opinions about the bids, but to remind everyone here that we're not pawns on a political chessboard. We are people. We are employees of the city of Burlington and we're exhausted. We are stressed and enough is enough. So I appreciate the postponement, but I ask, I implore you to gather what information it is that you feel you need and put this to a vote as soon as possible. Thank you. Okay, so any other, did you want to continue to have the floor, Chancellor Roof? No, thank you. Other counselors? Councillor Jang, I think. Yes. I mean, based on what Councillor Shannon said, I mean, I think when people take the time to take an airplane, to go away outside of the country, to visit an entity that interested in buying our telecom, I think it would have been very interesting for us to start there. Today, when I met with BT employees, the whole notion about the cell process changed totally my mind. Totally, I still, I love Burlington Telecom. If we vote it today, I'll vote for keep Burlington Telecom local. But I think it is important for us to take the time and go and speak to those people. What I learned today, it's incredible. And I felt so bad. The reason why when Councillor Harnett raised to postpone, I totally said yes, to invite every city councilor to take the time, not bringing them here. It's emotional, what we just heard. Not bring them here to speak to us, but we go to them to show them that we respect you, to show them that the love and the hard work you put into BT, turning it around, it's not this administration, it's not the past administration, but it's you. 30 people, we own them at least that. And it will not cost 6,200. Thank you. So are you speaking in favor of the motion? Yes. Great. Okay. Anyone else on the motion to adjourn to a time certain? I would like to close just by saying I think this is wise to do this. The council has done a lot of listening, but hasn't had that done, had the opportunity to do very much talking with each other. And to really kind of debate and weigh out the two options before us. And I think there are aspects of this decision that have not been fully explored and flushed out. And I look forward to having the opportunity on Monday to do that, I expect. So I'm gonna go to a vote. All in favor of this motion to adjourn to a time certain of next Monday, November 6th at 7 p.m., please say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? No. I have councillors Tracy and Moore and Busher, but it does carry. Now we have a local control commission meeting to do. So I'm going to convene the local control commission meeting. And I look to Commissioner Dean to make a motion. If you'll give me a moment. On the agenda. I would move to adopt the agenda, please. Yeah, we have a motion from Commissioner Dean to adopt the agenda as presented and Commissioner Busher seconds it. All in favor of that motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That carries unanimously. 2.01 is the first class restaurant bar liquor license for Lincoln's at 191 College Street, Commissioner Jang. Please take conversations outside. We're trying to do business. We're doing a little bit business, folks. So if you could- Please be respectful of that. Move out into the lobby, that'd be great. We'll be almost done. Commissioner Dean. I'd move the approval of the 2017-2018 first class restaurant bar liquor license application for Lincoln's 191 College Street with the following conditions. All city permits need to be closed out. All standard conditions and contingent upon fire marshal approval. Thank you. Second from Commissioner Roof. Any discussion? Commissioner Busher, yes. So I know with all the items we had, this seems minor, but when I looked at this menu, they only had one food choice, which is chili mac. And I don't care whether it is so much, is the fact that we're granting a liquor license to an establishment that has limited food offers. And I was somewhat surprised at that. And wondered what the license committee thought about that. If I could ask President Nodell, if I could ask. You can ask Commissioner Dean or he can hand it off to someone else. I'd like to ask my... Yes, Commissioner Roof. Councilor Roof to address this, please. I thought that was peculiar as well. However, state law does say that anyone that carries a liquor license is only required to, that is the minimum and that is the standard. So they can have that and meet the standard. And it's not within our purview as I see it at least to dictate what their menu is. Okay, so may I just speak again? You may. Thank you. Well, I didn't understand until just now what the state law was, but having said that, I expect more from the establishments that do business in Burlington. And I really think that there should have been more food options, not a lot, but more than just one food option. They just meet the standard, just meet it. And I think they should have been asked to do more. But I'll be supporting this, but I'm really looking to the license committee to kind of hold our establishments to a higher standard. Thank you. Any other commissioner? Seem none. All in favor of the motion to approve this first class restaurant bar liquor license for Lincoln's, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That carries unanimously. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. Commissioner Dean moves it. Commissioner Roof seconds it. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? We stand adjourned at 11.40. Thank you.


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decade. So speaking of production use cases, we have Allison Price back with us again and she is here for the Super User Reveal, right? I am. And before I share the exciting news about who the winner of the 2020 Super User Awards are, let's recap those nominees that we've seen over the last two days. Please join me in celebrating Adobe, China Mobile, LeBonquan, Line, Stack HPC, SK Telecom, Trendy Ultec, and Workday. What an impressive lineup and I am just so excited to welcome one of these organizations into the Super User Awards Winner Family. Now before I share the announcement, Jonathan, I think I need a drum roll. So drum roll please. SK Telecom, congratulations on winning the 2020 Super User Awards. Yay! Congratulations SK Telecom. That is so exciting. I'm really happy for that team.