It's not live hi. Oh, there we are now. We're live hi hi. What's everybody doing? Uh, we're all fine here. How are you? Do you think they can oh they can answer in the chat room. Yes, so they yeah now that they can Hey, did you know that Apple took two hours to announce that they have four new products coming up? Well, I think we I guess yeah, it is for well five Six Well, okay, I think eight is two because of the plus right yes And then that ten and then the Apple TV 4k there are two models You're gonna count all the all the storage the capacity store the storage doesn't and then you're counting you're counting air power No Well, so what Apple watch Apple TV Oh iPhone 10 that's cowboy You went a little far here cowboy Stop calling me cowboy What I miss So you're you're counting Apple, I mean iPhone Eight and eight plus is two different products, which I think is fair. Okay. We want to push it. I think you could Argue in a court of law that some people might consider that in under certain circumstances the Apple watch series three. Yeah Apple watch series three LTE oh, but that didn't like storage differences That's why I'm saying, you know, yeah All right, all right kind of like series three is different from series two, right? I'm actually when I say four products, I'm considered there's the iPhone 8 you can get a big one No, I obviously yes clearly. Yeah, but yes, you're right. It all depends on where you want to draw that line Hello, mr. Magic, how are you? Speaking to the chair I thought all of a sudden I had myself a unique name I Off I could see that I could see considering you mr. Magic. Yeah, I think it Could work, but you know if there's one thing I've learned Patrick It's the client to you are too sure they son Okay, so two things here first of all complex grammatical structure kind of mm-hmm You know, it's not just yeah, right? Okay. Yeah He's a particle Mm-hmm, and second. Yeah second You didn't nearly change your tone as much as you usually do Yeah, this is high praise I feel good about this now. Mm-hmm I'm quite impressed Beyonce Oh now you did it again. I know I did the weird voice. I'm sorry but of course I wonder what the the English language equivalent of this would be well, you know in English And American would it be like a cowboy voice or something I guess now not really because Not really because we don't speak like you do but clearly Yeah, right, okay fine, okay partner I would love to be able to make accents to do accents All right good at all of these well what we are good at is talking about tech stuff. You ready to do it Yes And I know it's the it's the two hour announcements. They just they just pull it out of you. All right Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday September 12 2017. I'm Tom Merritt. He's Patrick Beja Yes I'm good Welcome to the show Roger Chang our producer is here as well. Hi Roger. Hello. I'm a talking website You are on the video I talking website on audio that joke makes no sense Tom, uh before we start I did want to mention something sure, uh yesterday you had a long discussion about, uh Scooping and spoiling uh different bits of news right for different types of Different for a movie versus a tech story right. Yeah. No, it was a fun discussion with Veronica Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's also different for people and and big news that they might or might not have about things happening in their lives I guess. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's it's just I just thought it was a really interesting conversation that you had so I What makes you what makes you apply it to to personal stuff? That's it You know, I don't know. It was possibly, uh Something that came through my mind towards the end of the show I mean, we don't need to spend too much time on it. It was just something that I thought of Oh, you mean when when I announced that you're entering the priesthood I apologize. I misread the french patreon post you had when I said you're going to be a father. I Right, right. That's you know now that you mention it It is true that it was something that Possibly I would have been looking forward to announcing to our audience And and sharing in the joy of that announcement of me Becoming a a much more religious person than I had been until now, but you know, it's fine. It's as you said spoilers in certain domains aren't really very Shouldn't be considered spoilers. And I think that's uh, that's the case here. So Yeah, anyway, Patrick may have something else to tell you by the end of the show It sounds like I but let's let's start with a few tech things you should know Today at a press conference in Cupertino, California Apple announced a new watch an apple tv device that supports 4k and hdr Three new iPhones with wireless charging one of which which has an OLED screen Most of the new products go up for pre-order september 15th shipping september 22nd The new OLED iphone though called the iphone 10 will go into pre-order october 27th for shipping november 3rd And we will talk more about that announcement in a little bit Apple also updated its website to note that mac os high sierra will come out of beta and be available for all september 25th Now here are some more top stories researchers have devised a bluetooth remote code attack They call blue born that can be used to attack unmatched wind unpatched not unmatched And i'm very unmatched if you can attack it like this Unpatched windows linux and android devices also works against ios 9 and older The attack only requires bluetooth to be on no user action needed, which is why it's kind of nefarious microsoft patched the vulnerability in july but did not disclose it at the time google has provided a patch to device makers for android as of last month and is making it available today For pixel phones. There is no evidence of the exploit being used in the wild So nas nasty exploit, but mostly patched I think this is one more example of the You know in the eternal debate or of should be things should things be updated Automatically versus via user prompts Both have their you know pros and cons This is yet another example of the fact that The doing things automatically even though they do cause problems Does have its advantages as well. Well, and also this is This is the typical human reaction of like why wasn't this patched before and it's because they didn't know about the vulnerability before And then once they told them they worked on getting it patched and these are researchers who discovered it It's not in the wild So if it has been in the wild it nobody would have known about it until these researchers discovered it anyway So this is mostly good news. Like yes, it would be nicer if those patches came early. I agree Yeah, that's always the case. I but I really do think, you know, we're seeing people are well, maybe I don't know about the common folk but even People who are remotely interested in tech are understanding now that there are these vulnerabilities and this is how it works and you research them and you and so I think, you know, I think I'm mostly thinking about windows 10 and I don't want to launch into that huge debate again but basically for many many things having the updates be applied Automatically Makes things easier for most people and in this case, for example, we hadn't learned about the attack We didn't know it was possible. We didn't know anything But it turns out it's already patched if you didn't have that, you know, urgency of don't forget to patch your thing Because there's this Scary attack that's happening. Most people would probably not have done it. But if it's done automatically, you're already safe Yeah, just do the patch Samsung's president of mobile business Co Dong Jin Told the Associated Press that the company has a goal of producing a galaxy note smartphone with a bendable display in 2018 Samsung first demoed a flexible display prototype called YUM at CES in 2013 Samsung also said it has received 650 000 pre-orders for the note 8 2.5 times the number it received for the note 7 in the same period of time Uh, that's Pretty impressive. I I actually am not surprised that the note 8 is selling well that it's selling two and a half times as well as the note 7 uh Is is surprising it's I don't mean that in I don't mean to damn it with faint praise Surprising that it's that popular. It's that good of a phone Uh, I guess so so people are willing to order it. So, you know I was always one who didn't want to overplay the fears of ah the note 7 had the battery problems No, it'll ever order one again. But this is quite A lot better than I would have expected Yeah, I think it's the same for me. It's definitely, you know contradicting my initial reaction when the note 7 issues surfaced that The brand was dead. I was honestly, I honestly thought that the brand was going to have to be retired and samsung very Uh steadfastly improved me and many other people wrong I'm wondering if there isn't a uh, at least a portion of that increase in number Coming from people who did have a note 7 or who were wondering about buying a note 7 held off or Got it, you know reimbursed and thought, you know, I'll see what I do And maybe I do want that specific feature set of the note phones And I'm satisfied with what samsung has done and I'm happy You know, I consider the notes 8 to be a safe choice. And so maybe they delayed their purchase. Maybe that's part of it More than 30 lawsuits have been filed in the united states against equifax over the security breach which exposed records of 143 million u.s Residents. Meanwhile, the do not pay bot. That's the one that helps contest parking tickets. It started in the uk It's now available in all 50 states in the us Can also create paperwork to sue equifax for negligence in small claims court Now you'd still have to serve the papers to equifax yourself. It won't do that for you You also have to show up in court if you want to pursue something like this Meanwhile, equifax announced on twitter that it is waiving fees for removing and placing security freezes for the next 30 days and if you remember from friday's show That was shannon morse's big advice is if you're worried about this put a freeze on your security And and it doesn't cost that much And you'll have to lift it if you need to you know buy a house or open get a loan or something like that But it's it's going to protect you and now equifax is going to let you do it for free And even if you have to lift it within the next 30 days, you won't you won't get charged for that either Yeah, I would have many questions and comments about this. You already talked about it at length yesterday, so I'll hold off But wow man. Yeah, I think that says it all yeah Nintendo announced that it will resume production of the nes classic console for shipping in summer 2018 Nintendo also announced it is it will extend shipments for the nes for the s nes classic console into 2018 which were originally scheduled to end sometime this year This is one of those stories where the headlines bug me and I know it's just me because I've been doing this job too long But people say oh and nintendo backtracks and decides to ship the nes classic after all next summer Nintendo never said it would never ship the nes classic again It said it wasn't going to ship it again this year and it's not but very wisely They've said okay our next available window to crank up production for it again is coming With a shipping date of next summer, so we're going to do that It's just a classic example of nintendo being very orderly and saying no no no We can't change our our schedule, but as soon as there's an opening we'll start producing it again and they did Yeah, it's not like you can snap your fingers and make them appear There are you know delays in these Chains and manufacturing processes and all of this. I think it's also interesting that it is cutting the Oh, I was going to use a french expression translated into english that wouldn't have worked at all She's cutting the grass under the feet of scalpers. I like that though that makes sense to me. Yeah Well, there you go. Maybe we'll introduce it. Yeah I think we can make it a dtns staple. Um, they they're having the grass cut under their feet and and you know showing that um people and companies Incredibly and unless you're making diamonds You don't want to artificially constraint the production and availability of your product And this is yet another example of this nintendo has no interest in making the thing that people want to buy Not available for them to buy it if they Can produce it they will and you know, clearly that's what they're going to be doing Not just with the nes, but with the s nes as well, which is going to be available this uh fold And if they had wanted to constrain Uh supply artificially and and increase the demand or perceived value They could have stayed silent and let the craze wash over The gamers over the next few months and then announce that, you know, they were selling more But clearly that's not what they're doing and for good reason Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes It helps you really keep up to date if you feel like you're falling behind Don't subscribe to daily tech headlines daily tech headlines.com And you can keep up keep up very easily You can get it as a podcast on the amazon echo as a flash briefing and in the anchor app at anchor.fm All right, folks, I'm supposed to play that when I say that there we go Apple announced a bunch of things as we mentioned and they started with something that I know i'm a big softy But I thought was very sweet and very touching and you could tell it actually meant something to tim cook I don't think he was putting it on uh in in a What was a short uh, but compelling tribute to steve jobs at the steve jobs theater I I was impressed by that I was less impressed uh by other things at varying impressions of other things they announced uh later in the day But patrick, how did you feel on the whole about the announcement? um it's kind of difficult because it should be an announcement that has Wait because it is 10 years since the first iphone was announced and Uh, of course steve jobs probably his most famous Conference and he was famous for conferences and this one is the biggest one The iphone if you want to It's very easy to argue. It's the most important Product of the company that the company has ever put out. It is by far Financially the biggest portion of their revenue by far. Uh, it's completely transformed apple and and their footprint in the world So It would my point is That conference that event Should have had more weight than it did because I think The products that were announced were interesting But they weren't the iphone again, which if we're being honest, they probably couldn't be but they're a small chance A phone an ipod and internet communications device, you know, it was new it was new for apple anyway Uh, and it was new with the touchscreen in a lot of ways This this was an event That discussed the evolution, uh, the latest evolution of their product lines And I don't think they they meant it to actually be anything No, I mean I think this for me if we're talking about meaning and and You know birds eye view. I think this is putting to rest Uh, the idea that apple is going to Do the iphone again, which is a very artificial way of looking at things and I think it's gonna Make it so people who were hoping that this was going to happen again That they were going to have a truly revolutionary product Put out if it's not happening now in the 10 years and we'll discuss the phone that they announced Then maybe we don't we we shouldn't be hoping for it So it's going to put it to rest until maybe, you know, they or someone else But maybe the car comes out or something. Yeah, exactly But at this point, I think even the people who were Super staunch defenders of the idea that apple is going to keep doing the revolutionary things I think they're going to go. All right. Well, we'll see Well, let's start with the the watch watch os4 was announced to be arriving september 19th They talked about that at w w dc So not much new there but a new piece of hardware apple watch series three Which has a dual core processor an altimeter built in a new w2 bluetooth and wi-fi chip And the big the big attractive feature is cellular data built in so lte or umts In your watch you can use the same number as your iphone I'm still waiting to find out how that works if you don't have an iphone Siri can also talk back to you from the watch It's not just siri putting something on the display it can actually speak to you And it comes in a wide variety of bands as well as gold silver and space gray cases There are special nike plus versions and it starts at $329 for the regular watch series three $399 if you want the one with cellular data Orders are starting as most of these products announced today september 15th available september 22nd Solid watch announcement I don't have much else to say about it. Yeah, so I suspect i'm pretty certain it's not going to work without an iphone You're going to need the iphone to set it up So I don't think the question of how does it work without an iphone is really a question There's no reason it couldn't have its own lte number assigned to it Yeah, but I think it's going to be like the iphone needed the pc for a very long time To be set up. I think this is going to be the case for the watch. I you know, maybe I'm wrong I would suspect that's how it works For a number of reasons I think you know, we're seeing more and more clearly the fact that the apple watch has kind of decided what it is It's a health and a fitness product and everything else is kind of complimenting or supplementing that kind of use and I can I'm sure some people will use it Not for that purpose and will use the lte version as an Independent device that they use with wireless headphones to go around without their phone I suspect that it's going to be a very rare case It's going to be mostly people who go work out and don't want to have their phone with them This is the bet though apple says fine. You all want to use it for heart rate monitoring and fitness We're going to give you a health study with stanford on heart rate monitoring We're going to fulfill that beyond your expectations But we bet it's useful for other things and one of the things that kept it from being useful Was not having its own data connection So we're going to put that in there and we're going to downplay it and see where it goes And I think that'll be interesting to watch Apple introduced the apple tv 4k with support for hdr 10 and dolby vision hdr The new apple tv runs an a10x processor with a new tv os and major studios Have agreed to make 4k movies available in itunes for the same price as hd And apple will even upgrade your previous purchases from hd to 4k the tv app is coming to seven new countries So if you're wondering like okay, the u.s. People have that tv app. Is that any good? Well, now you can try it for yourself in canada and australia first with five more countries to follow Apple's also adding live news and sports to the tv app So if you don't understand the tv app It keeps track of what you're watching no matter what app it's in and then it keeps it up there to say Oh, you've been watching firefly in hulu. Here's the next episode of firefly. Oh, you were watching outlander in the stars app Here's the next episode of outlander without you having to know the apps Now it's going to keep track of live news and sports So if you want to know what's playing you can go to a sports tab or it will just tell you like Hey, the game's on right now and it'll be up there right next to your shows New apple tv is available for 32 gigabytes at 179 dollars or 64 gigabytes for 199 dollars pre-ordering september 15th shipping september 22nd Well, you compare this to roku and fire tv. It's expensive It's expensive. It's still the same price as it is For the current model more or less of the app $149 if you want to get the hd version. They're still selling that one too. Yeah, right Yeah, without judging the product itself. I'm personally very happy with mine. Um, I think the the big thing here is the the The price of the 4k movies because obviously if you have a 4k capable device and no content for it, then you have a big problem and they would have been mocked eternally If they hadn't found a an agreement with the studios to provide those Those that content. I'm really wondering, you know, the floating of the the intentional floating of rumors and leaks By companies. I usually don't buy. I don't think they do it on purpose Certainly not apple to the extent to which their their products leak But in this case, I'm wondering if they didn't maybe leak the state of the negotiations with the executives Saying they want to charge you, you know 25 to 30 bucks for the the movies even if you had already bought the hd version and Collated the reactions the outrage from the media and the the public and went back to them and said guys You know, maybe this isn't gonna go over so well for you if that's how it is and I also know the deal Yeah, I also The the movies uh, not just, you know Same price for 4k, but not even requiring you even an upgrade fee for a movie you have already purchased in hd They could very easily have uh, you know Build you five bucks to upgrade to 4k. They thought that if apple comes out today And says hey, guess what 4k movies will only cost you five dollars more than the hd versions And if you want to upgrade your existing ones, you only pay five dollars and that was all we'd ever heard about it People'd say okay. That's I guess that's not bad. It is 4k But instead like you say it leaked out And maybe it was intentional and suddenly it was what apple wants to keep it the same and the studios are being greedy I'm mad and the studios kind of couldn't do anything else at that point I think so. I think they could have they could have said well Make people pay five bucks or and and make them a little bit more expensive for at least a year or two Uh, I think this is a really good deal for people. They really want people to go to 4k. I think Yeah, and uh, they also made mention that netflix 4k will be coming to the apple tv later this year and that amazon that amazon app is still being promised the one they promised at wwc will be coming with 4k on it as well As expected apple introduced the 4.7 inch iphone 8 and the 5.5 inch 8 plus with glass front and back She's standard wireless charging speakers that are supposedly 25 louder than the iphone 7 a six core a11 64 bit chip apple designed gpu that is supposedly 30 faster than in the a10 tuned for augmented reality There's also an apple designed image sensor processor. That also helps the ar But there's also a new 12 megapixel camera sensor that provides 83 more light with better color The 8 plus has f 1.8 and f 2.8 sensors with its dual cameras It also features an apple designed video encoder that can do 4k at 60 frames per second and 1080p at 240 frames per second so you can do good slow-mo stuff As well as a new feature in the 8 plus called portrait lighting the iphone 8 comes in silver space gray and a new gold finish starting at $799 for the 8 $799 for the 8 plus pre-order starting september 15th ship in september 22nd And they also let us know that ios 11 is coming to everybody who has a compatible device starting on september 19th Yeah, so this is the i mean all of this including the iphone 10 by the way and was leaked and was very accurately leaked So it's kind of you were talking about leaks yesterday And i think this is a prime example of why people get Frustrated about leaks. It's that it does diminish the impact of the announcement and the spoiler Right like it's so So it doesn't have an impact I think there's bigger problems with this product line other than wireless charging. What's the difference between this and the seven They're you know, it's kind of like the difference between the six and the six s and they're saying there's the wireless charging So that's why you know design with the glass The glass back means that it's a different design. And so that justifies the yeah, not really I think This is kind of a fun not even a fun. It's an evolutionary standard evolution of their product line um, so it's not That exciting there are some goodies. I think uh the Portrait lighting feature is actually quite impressive For those who aren't aware basically they use the portrait capabilities of the current seven line That differentiates between your subject when you're taking a portrait picture of someone And the background and they can do different Operations on the background and the subject so they could completely Make the background completely disappear apply a certain kind of lighting on the person and make it look I mean on their demo pictures. It looks amazing Um, it there's no reason to believe that it's not going to be possible to do something like that. So that's kind of cool but Yeah, it's a it's a new iphone always cool. Um It's not it doesn't have anything to get people to you know Super incredibly excited about yeah, and if this was the seven s and this was the end of the announcement We'd say ah, well, it's the it's the tick to the talk, right? Like this is it's just what they do in the off eras But I think what makes the iphone 8 stand out is a little bit of a weird slot Is that they announced the iphone 10? And suddenly you're like, well, okay It's 600, you know, what what is the price is it's like 649 dollars? You have the seven and then it's 700 dollars. You have the eight and then at 999 dollars. You have the 10 um It's it's just it's it's becomes a more complex product line than you're used to seeing from apple It's and we should talk about all this together apple also announced a 5.8 inch phone called the iphone 10 It's spelled with an x but it's pronounced 10 has a glass front and back as well a stainless steel band Qi wireless charging it as well, but the big thing is the screen 24 36 by 11 25 458 pixels per inch o led display It can show hdr and there's no home button. So they change your gesture control Uh Vocabulary here you swipe up from the bottom to go to the home screen You press and hold the side button for siri. You swipe up and pause to access multitasking You swipe down to get to the control panel and i'm still unclear how you get to notifications separately from that But to replace touch id We did get facial recognition face id takes advantage of the a 11 bionic neural engine So they have some machine learning built right there on the chip facial recognition can also make custom an emojis Has dual 12 megapixel camera sensors with optical image stabilization. That's pretty impressive apple promises two more hours of battery life over the iphone 7 And the iphone 10 will be available in space gray and silver in 64 and 256 gigabyte versions Starting at 999 dollars for the 64 pre-orders for this start later october 27th for the pre-orders And shipping november 3rd. I would expect limited supply as well from everything we've been hearing So now you got an OLED screen with the wireless charging and the little machine learning and the face id which Yes face id's demo failed in the presentation But if you noticed it failed in a way where it said you need to put in the passcode to unlock face id So face id didn't fail. It was Obviously hit it timed out and it was doing its regular thing where every once in a while even with touch id It'll say, you know what? You need to put in your passcode this time So I don't know why that happened, but it wasn't necessarily a failure in the facial recognition Anyway, after that it worked great for him What do you think patrick? Um, I think the technology itself seems Pretty solid and that's already something to be noted. Um, the the detail with which they They perform that face recognition seems and we'll need testing and all of this, but it does seem like it's fairly Safe to the extent that's something like that. It's got the same secure enclave as touch id has So as far as the data that it stores on your face that is as safe as your fingerprint data was Right, but it's also it does, you know, it has a mapping of your face that is an actual, you know Smooth mapping. It's not like seven points or something silly like like that. That would be easy to defeat So the the point here is that they're making it they they're marketing it as This is better than touch id. Yeah, they even had a little Mentioned there that touch id is, you know, one in 50 000 chance of having someone else But having the same one as you or maybe not that Your phone ran being able to unlock your phone, which by the way that was interesting. They never said that figure Yeah, that's pretty low actually And and face id has a one in a million chance of it being fooled which I think at that point you're pretty safe for something that you're going to use to just unlock your phone um but The so that is is a pretty solid piece of technology The phone itself I honestly having seen all of those, uh bezel less phones. I thought The iphone 10 was a little bit bezel e You know, if you know what I mean, it's like it feels like it does have a little bit of a bezel that is What I was holding my phone my iphone 6 success to The screen and looking at the side at the sides and It is a little bit thicker on the on the 6 but not that much Thicker so it's really the top and the bottom that have been Reduced obviously and it has a much bigger notch than the essential phone of the notch in the essential phone bug people This notch is really gonna bug people. Yeah, and you know, we've seen the essential the galaxy Edge and all of those that have a like the the the bezel actually kind of disappears. So Uh, it's again, we've seen we had seen a lot of previews a lot of leaks. I'm not sure that this phone It's an interesting position for a phone to be in it's definitely marketed as the premium Experience that and and most phones, you know, it's very likely that the the one for next year Is got to be following this design or something slightly modified from this design. Um, which by the way, I don't know What's naming convention? They're gonna be having but they did a windows 10 there They went from 8 to 10 and skip 9. That was interesting. Well, yeah, and they also did an x instead, which is actually, I mean It's it's at first, right? They went for mac OS 10, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly Um, but yeah, so I mean this I don't think it represents what they were saying it represents which It's very common with apple, but it's not like the Next evolution the next step in smartphones In the smartphone world It's also An Great high-end phone with interesting features. I think I'm gonna wait for Uh people to get their hands on it and tell us how it feels because sometimes I might even say often um, some products Maybe even apple products look A little bit more mundane when you see them in the presentations and when you have your hands on them, they're More convincing because the build quality is really high and everything I found that true of the essential phone I it did not look impressive at all on the page to me But when I got it in my hands It just it felt a lot better And I think that's I think that's absolutely true of most phones when when you actually hold them And you get to play, you know, feel the texture feel the weight in your hand See it in 3d as you turn it around it makes a big difference I don't know that this is the future of smartphones either Maybe that OLED screen will just blow me away, but uh face id looks better than I expected honestly And they did a good job of of reassuring me That that it is as least as secure as touch id But but yes, is it worth 999 dollars? I mean if the samsung phones weren't coming out at 949 dollars I'd say absolutely not on the other hand That seems to be the trend is to sell your flagship phones for 900 plus dollars And apple usually sells them at a few more dollars than everybody else So I guess 999 is the expected amount, but that is a lot of money for a phone Yeah, I think they're also supply constrained. Uh, they made a big deal of the how did they call it super retina display? Yeah It was It was a funny way of putting it basically they were saying Finally the OLED screens are good enough that we can use them in an iPhone Which was you know an interesting way of addressing the fact that Many other manufacturers have had OLED screens before That being said apple needs a lot of Inventory and they they require a lot of Screens when they're going to build the phone So I'm wondering if part of this isn't you know the fact that they knew they weren't going to have enough To produce as many as they wanted and so the delayed production and the price might be part of that as well, but Yeah, I I don't think it's it's I honestly don't think it's going to be Objectively worth that amount you're going to get if you could get for 200 bucks less Perfectly capable iphone if that's what you want Which is one of the latest models with the iphone 8, but it doesn't mean that it's not You know subject to leave worth it for the people who are going to buy one and that's part of the equation as well Now There is the matter of twins. They did acknowledge it if your twin is evil You'll need to use a passcode because apparently while it is hard to fool this And and yet it's good at telling who you are even if you have a hat on or something like that If you're if you have a an identical twin that facial structure is close enough that it'll probably fool it So I know that Ethan Kane in our chat room And and and some of our friends who have twins have said, oh, well, we'll try to try this out on our kids but That it seems to be the only Real drawback to to the face id other than all of the drawbacks that facial recognition would have for anybody No matter what they're putting in. Yeah, they did also mention something that we wondered about You can't it won't work if your eyes are closed closed So if you're sleeping attention, you have to be looking at the phone, right? Someone can't take your phone put it in front of your face when you're sleeping and unlock it So that's unless you and also they made it sound like apple pay is going to be seamless And i'm a little skeptical about that Because I've I've had problems with apple pay and touch id Already in the syncing of when I when I unlock it and when I pay And the face id thing seems like it might introduce some hilarity as well So So how is it different from touch id for apple pay though? Because you confirm with your finger and here you confirm with with your face Is it yeah, and I've had problems where I confirm and then I touch and it was asked me to confirm again So the fact that I have my finger there means like when it's down near the reader I can confirm now. I'm gonna have to like position myself to look at it. I guess but Maybe it won't be that big of a deal. I'm just saying Uh, hey, what was it like on the ground at apple? Well, let's find out we uh talked a little earlier to pete wells of the city morning herald who was there Hey, dts pageant. Oh wait. That's sarah lane. Okay real quickly. Uh, we're gonna talk with peter wells Who is at the apple campus? Where where are you right now peter? I'm still in the foyer of the steep jobs theater, uh, which has been turned into a hands-on area It's pretty loud back here. I do think it goes for the sound No, no, we're we're hearing you okay is we're getting a lot of natural sound It feels like we're there with you and we've run through all of the announcements We know all of the things that are happening.  You you think might be different for people Uh, yeah, look it was really good to get my hands on the iphone x Of course, that's the the big thing that everyone's gonna want to know what it feels like It does feel very solid in the hand. It's a it's a really nice solid well engineered piece of uh Well of phone it's very different actually to I was expecting it to be similar to the galaxy s s8 Which has that same kind of edge to edge display It feels a lot a lot thicker a lot more solid than that And yeah, the chrome sides are quite lovely as well to hold on to really nice phone very very expensive But uh, yeah very nice looking phone Is it something where you look at it and and you realize like okay? I'm paying a thousand dollars, but I feel like I've got a thousand dollars worth of display there in front of me Oh, I don't know. Uh, that's a very hard question to answer. I mean, it's it's really a phone for people with a very large disposable income Um, and yeah, look it does it definitely feels polished. It feels like the best iphone i've i've held So yeah, if you're a massive iphone fan, I guess it's worth the money Yeah, I mean a lot of people are just going to pay it no matter what uh, what about the iphone 8 I I feel like i'm having a hard time deciding what they're for They have wireless charging which the 7 does not but otherwise they're kind of a weird in-betweener They do have the new uh true tone display and the camera has been improved as well So the true tone display really does look gorgeous. Um, I've been using that on an ipad for a while now Really love that display. So that's good to see at least. Um, that'd be on that Yeah, I guess it does feel like the standard kind of yearly upgrade that the s cycle kind of upgrade that you'd normally get All right. Well, let's finish up with just your general impressions What was it like to be in the steve jobs theater hear that sort of sweet tribute to steve at the beginning? What's what's the atmosphere like there? Yeah, it was it was a lovely atmosphere to kick off the day I think that they they handled it well without being a little you know without getting too Over the top in the reverence for the man But um, yeah, it was a really lovely experience. Um, and the ground itself is incredible. Uh, so the theater is Crazy apple as you would expect every every detail is shiny and beautiful. Uh, but yeah, it's been a really great morning Actually, I was going to say the one thing that i'm really most interested in is is that you watch The the fact that the watch has lte Uh, and you can actually sync your phone number Across to the watch is a really big deal that that was something that I know other Phone makers and watchmakers and tried to pull off in australia and the carriers have always said no to them so Only apple it seems gonna can make those deals happen Yeah, and i'm curious what the details will be like if you don't have an iphone What the price of that data plan is what that phone number is like and how the syncing works then Yeah, absolutely Well peter thank you so much. Uh, yeah, absolutely. I'll let you get back to it And uh, check out peter wells. You can follow him on on twitter at peter wells And of course look for his work in the city morning herald and elsewhere. Thanks again peter Thank you, tom That was very nice of peter to take some time to chat with us there Um and and give you a little sense of what it's like on the ground In the end though, we all have to make our own decisions Now I often will buy things Uh from these events because I feel like I need to to check them out. I haven't decided yet I will I won't buy an iphone 8. There's no need for that. Uh, it's not that different iphone 10 There might be a question of is it worth the money? And so I may want to buy it for that reason That's why I bought the essential phone to be honest patrick. What about you? I'm you know, I'm on the uh On my two-year cycle. I usually buy Recently I bought a phone every every two years. So I was ready. I had my credit card in one hand and keyboard in another I was ready to shell out the thousand bucks for work purposes, of course for the iphone 10 The presentation actually put me off a little bit. So now I'm not certain. Um, I I'm it's still More likely than not that I'm gonna get it But I'm gonna wait for the hands-on reactions of the um of the press And um, and yeah, so I it's it's very possible. I will but I'm not it's not a definitive Already made decision like it was two hours ago. Gotcha. No, that's very interesting Well, thank you patrick as always uh frenchspin.com the place to go if you want to find out the other things that patrick has Going on anything to tell people about Uh, that's about it. Not patrick on twitter and facebook and uh, I'm as you said I have shows at frenchspin.com and if you enjoy french Uh, maybe you want to go to frenchspin.fr Where I have my french shows including shows about tech and gaming and uh, yeah aside from that Come january roughly there will be someone else that will be Born ready Yes, this is what I accidentally thought was totally public knowledge because I read it on patreon yesterday But you were just telling the patreons at that point. Uh, but all I said was father patrick So tell us more. What's the deal? well There might be a mini patrick in the works uh coming fairly soon and obviously I am uh, we are both incredibly excited and uh, I was you know telling the patreons, uh for my show the filius club and um, it's that the kind of thing that is It we have a strange Relationship us podcasters with our audience and our communities, you know, uh, they've been with us Usually for many years, uh in my case for about 12, especially the french community and they've followed me through many many, uh, uh, different Stages in my life when I you know Changed jobs met my wife got married all of this and um the fact that we're now uh getting into that stage of our lives is Really exciting and sharing it with them and seeing the feedback is incredible from both the french and english communities so i'm You know, I'm getting emotional now. So i'm gonna shut up, but it's something that is uh really special And the fact that we can share it with quote-unquote strangers on the internet and get the kind of warmth and and uh wholesomeness That we do when the internet is supposedly a Hostile place, uh is something that I feel incredibly thankful for so anyway. Yeah, so yeah Babies or well one baby Hopefully right? Well, uh, or you'll have a problem with face ID. That's that's what you're looking at Uh, no seriously congratulations to both of you guys. That's fantastic Thank you Uh, and thanks to everybody who supports us and lets us make a living doing this giving a little value back for This show for the value you get for it We'd like to increase that value And not only will that help out patrick beija pay for some diapers, but it will help out Sarah lane and she needs your help. Hey dts patrons It's sarah lane here and I need your help because i'm trapped in a box And I'd like to be let out before I pass out So here's what I need you to do help us hit the 20 000 milestone on patreon And I will Exit this box and join tom as a regular co-host who can see the sun Alongside the rest of the dts co-host too, but that's not all reaching the milestone is going to bring you a lot of extra content And expanded round table show dts labs stuff you want But we need your help go to patreon.com slash dts and help us out at any amount you can And also check out the cool rewards you get there too. All right. Talk to you soon Let's sarah out of the box people We're we're less than a thousand dollars away from the from the goal. We're like 917 dollars away from the goal. So huge huge huge. Thanks to everyone who has already increased pledges or begun Supporting us at patreon.com slash dts Our email addresses feedback at daily tech news show dot com we're live bundy through friday 4 30 p.m Eastern 20 30 utc alpha geek radio dot com and diamond club dot tv And of course our website is daily tech news show dot com back tomorrow with scott johnson And we'll be talking to a member of the electrical grid community about cyber attacks talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frogpants.com Nicely done good show good show Here we go leveling Um, I'm actually gonna run off right now. Okay Um I'm seeing some cool titles. Uh, there I saw one going by, uh, referencing parenthood If I could ask that you just make it about the iphone or whatever. Don't put it fair enough. Yes We will respect that wish but but congratulations man. That's awesome. Thank you. Yeah, it is exciting And scary Oh, no, it's it's it'll be cool.  I I couldn't sleep the first night. I was like, what am I supposed to do? It's And then you figure it out, you know, that's the one thing that people have been telling me the most it's um Everyone has opinions about what you should do and how you should do it and everyone will tell you a million things but ultimately You kind of know you're wired for it and you you're totally wired for it It's different. So yeah, you'll you'll do things that you didn't think you'd be doing and you'll be doing it almost I wouldn't say automatically, but it's like almost second nature So my plan, uh, currently since you know, you you know how to do things instinctively is to start, uh game console controller training by uh age six months So that when they're one year old roughly they can start helping me out on you know Fireteam strikes in destiny 2 and stuff like that Hey, that's one thing I've never done to try to get her up on video games I don't know why. Yeah, everything is different roger. It's totally different You know, if you you'll know when her or her or his personality starts coming through Well, I guess we know patrick's child will be a pro gamer then Uh, I don't want to put that much pressure.  Yes Um, and bio cow. It's actually not finished. It's uh, swedish. So yeah, french english swedish and hopefully japanese But you're in finland part time. So they might pick up some finish too Well, if they yeah, they will learn, uh finish in school Um, because finland has uh swedish speaking minority and that my wife is part of that So it will be swedish First and then finish in school which is swedish and french at home english while podcasting japanese for recreation and finish in school Not bad. No a finishing school. Yay All right, that's it for me Bye guys Oh, that's fantastic.   Yeah good done It's kind of how I feel There aren't bad things. There's some good things They're interesting things I'll probably end up having to buy at least an apple tv 4k out of this to try it out for cord killers Might end up having a drop on the iphone 10 haven't decided How much do you all care because that's that's kind of what determines it is Am I going to be able to pull useful information out of this device to inform my shows? um So, yeah I'm curious now roger before we started recording was expressing skepticism on face ID I was going to pull you in and during the main show, but we were You guys are close to pretty well. Yeah. Yeah, um, but but your concern is that Someone could grab you and force you to unlock your phone by pointing your face at it Yeah, the the the seed for that discussion was um, there's a twitter discussion going around What if you know essentially what if With face ID could the authorities i.e. the police or whoever Forced you to unlock your phone And there was a back and forth about well, you know, you can do the five tap on the on the button press to lock it out and You know the the counter argument of always is that you know if you're being surveilled you might not always Be be aware of that and so I mean really the crux of the matter is um, could this be So, uh, could this be uh, something that people who are very um protective of their ID Want to avoid as as as amazing as the feature is is it something that? You know, you would want to give pause to implementing uh for yourself Yeah, well, and I think that's fair. I think for the majority of people face ID is probably more secure than what they would otherwise do um, but If you are really concerned about this sort of thing if you're in a sensitive position Let's say or you're you're you have confidential information that that people might be trying to get after The number of situations where you wouldn't be able to do The five tap lock are pretty low But let's say you're like yeah, but I can't I have to have zero percent chance of that you may just not want to turn this on because You know it it's hard to fool But It's also I mean yes, you could just close your eyes if somebody's trying to force it in front of your face to unlock You also have to swipe up at the same time. I don't know. I think in 99 percent of situations It's not going to be a problem But if you're worried, uh, no you shouldn't use it because it is not a It is not a foolproof situation. Put it that way. Yeah But it's it's not something most people need to worry about Unless you unless you have a history with the police or you just don't like the police You know even police though like most of the time when police come you'll be able to get those five taps in Quick like it's it's very rarely that they're going to come across you in a situation where you couldn't it's mostly going to be a traffic stop If you've just got problems with the police, it would have to be something like you're saying where you're being surveilled by the fbi For something that's that's that's a higher level than just I've had trouble with police Don't you think Yeah, maybe I mean like if your eyes are I don't know.  I'm curious if if that would work you have it says you have to be looking at it But it doesn't say it to be conscious Um, I wonder if it can tell if you're If your eyes aren't moving, you know because you're I also was wondering somewhat humorously, what if you got like You set your phone up and then you go for like some minor plastic surgery Like you got like it's like to lift your face or something.  I mean it can it can deal with hats and different expressions and stuff But yeah, a whole new nose.  Some of that is overblown Some of it's just not something that most people are gonna have to worry about but again If you're if you're talking about worst-case scenarios There's some reality to that and certainly fingerprint and face are not things you can change So that's always a concern You can't if somebody steals your face ID. You can't go change it Well, not without a lot of money for plastic surgery as well You can't change your fingerprints very easily at all. That's that's really tough So I'm wondering if someone could rebuild the face like they someone gets your phone But they don't know who you are you have a limited set of information Could they rebuild the image of a face of the person based on that security? Beatmaster says he uses biometrics only for passwords and purchases never for device unlocking. That's interesting Oh, that's very interesting. Why only Why only passwords and purchases? Tindvicks points out that easy depends on how much pain you can handle as far as changing your fingerprints Um, I guess that way nobody it's harder for people to get into the phone Right Once someone's in the phone that they can they can get it.  I guess I don't know.  I think that's I think that is impractical at this point Even for people in sensitive situations like at some point you need to be able to store information and any information storage is vulnerable The question is can you make it reasonably protected? Well, you know, well depends on beatmaster says that's against the law I have bigger words as they persuade me. Oh, well, I don't know. I because it's an easy equation They're then there's persuasion. No Well, no, I wasn't actually talking about physical a physical beat down I'm talking about like threatening you with some other Crime psychological tech tricks.  Oh, no. Yeah, it is But that's how you test really. I mean, it's like saying a bridge can hold 12,000 cars every 30 minutes Uh cars pass by it, but you never really test at 12,000 test at 10,000 but you want to make sure I'm not saying that needs to be 100 foolproof, but Yeah, it's knowing where the where the the line is because everything has a vulnerability That's that's something I try to try to remind people like nothing is 100 secure. The question is What level of security do you need to get what you need done? And for most people it's it's not not 100 percent. Nobody needs 100 security But you would like to have it as high as you can as you can get so so chum donkey in the chat room actually Brings up something very interesting.  I don't have to look at my phone to skip a song on pandora or do some other things Um, you should not be doing either of those things while you're driving You should not be unlocking your phone with your thumbprint while you're driving either That's my that's my response I don't I don't think apple is is inciting people to do something Wrong people are going to use their phones while they're driving anyway. I don't think face ID makes it worse Stuts don't don't use your phone while you drive. It's incredibly dangerous whether you're talking about thumbprints It in a certain respect it might be safer If you've got it mounted here to be able to unlock it by by glancing at it Versus having to think oh, it's my thumb in the right place Like I could see that possibly being safe, but guess what either one of them are safe Don't do either one of them get a spouse or A life partner and then they can do it for you Or have a car mode where you know the things you need to do can be done very quickly Or be very quick No, no, no, no, no That's like the old southern Illinois thing about drunk driving. Oh, I'm fine drunk driver. I drive slow and I'm drunk No, no, it doesn't that's not okay. No Get a horse just hit your car to a horse and the horse is going home It'll be fine Alrighty, uh, that's it for this episode. Thanks everybody for hanging around. I hope you enjoyed it and uh, oh my gosh We are so darn close. 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I am Rusty Komori and this is Beyond the Lines. We are broadcasting live from the beautiful ThinkTek Hawaii TV studio in the Pioneer Plaza in downtown Honolulu. This show is based on my book, which is also titled Beyond the Lines, and it's about creating a superior culture of excellence, leadership, and finding greatness. My special guest today is Augie T. She is one of the funniest comedians in the state of Hawaii and has achieved great success through these years selling out the Hawaii Theater and also the Blaisdell Arena, and today we are going beyond comedy. Hey, Augie. Hi there, Rusty. Thanks for having me. Thank you for being here. Augie, I want to know about your background, I mean your youth when you're growing up. When I was in Cali Valley, Catford Housing, I lived there all my life, went to Kaivai Elementary School, went to Doe Intermediate, and graduated from Farrington High School. I went to Damien down the street. So in neighbors, yeah. A lot of my classmates who got football scholarships went to Damien or St. Louis. So how was it at Farrington? I think I grew the most as a person. Honestly, a lot of things happened while I was in high school. One, I became a teen parent, but I also was ranked at one time, seven in the nation when it comes to boxing. So I grew as a person because I, like other kids, I had to grow up extremely fast, taking care of my family, and at the same time trying to compete on certain level. So a lot of learning, but then I also talk, you know, now when I go out to schools, I also talk about how important teachers are in your life. So there are a lot of teachers out there that don't get recognized. So I want to take the time out to say thank you to several of them because it wasn't for them. You and I wouldn't be sitting here honestly. Totally. So I want to say thank you to Ms. Murakami, my 8th grade guidance teacher. There's Mr. Kao, my drama teacher. There's my boxing coach, Donald Sark. There was also an English teacher who pushed me to the point where I had this anger about her for a long time, but we settled our difference in my 30s, believe it or not, because she just knew that if I get pushed, I might be able to achieve the things that everybody else saw except Augie. Now boxing, I had no idea that you were like one of the top boxers in the United States. How did that start? My brother Arnold was in the gym one day boxing. I went up there to go heckle him, of course, had to make trouble since I'm the oldest and he was like, Alex, you go in the bag. I started punching the bag and my coach Donald Sark was like, hey, you look pretty good at punching the bag. Why don't you start training and go, I'll only train if I go fight this week. If I can fight this week, I was that bozo-headed that if I can fight this week, let's do it. I got my physical, fought that week, and after that I was hooked. I loved the aspect of boxing and fighting and the discipline. At first it was all for the wrong reason, then I realized when he sat me on the side and he says, you have the kind of talent you'll take to go to the next level and I was like, oh, okay, yeah. How was it in growing up in CAM4 housing? It was tough. I mean, when you hear stuff like show me your friends and I'll show you your future, honestly, it's like that. Who you surround yourself with can make a whole bunch of difference, you know what I mean? I'm so thankful that I had some pretty cool friends that never do the things that, I mean, I had some of them and it's good to have them on the side. But I had great mentors, yeah? I had great mentors that kept me focused and kept me straight on that narrow road. Yeah, they say, you know, because we all have roads in our life and I had a lot of people that really took care of me and made sure that I stayed on that path. Yeah. Now, Augie, so one of the people that impacted your life as a teacher, Murakami, Ms. Murakami, what did she do? Well, I was flunking English. Okay. I always had problems in school because I'm ADHD and I'm a little dyslexic. So I always had a problem like focusing, staying, you know, paying attention to anything. I was a kid in the back that talked, you know, the teacher would go, Mr. Toba, you have diarrhea coming out of your mouth.  Right? So could never ever focus and I was flunking English and she was my guidance teacher and she said, look, two things would happen. You're going to get licking from your dad or you're going to enter this speech contest. And I went, speech contest, only put a nerd. She said, no, I'm going to help you.  But like it's the first time where I actually felt like somebody like really cared generally for me. You know, she really wanted to help me out and after school, yes, by spending time with me after school gave me a confidence. Yeah. Like I wanted to do well for me, for my parents, but even for Ms. Murakami. And you know, when I did the speech contest, I kind of knew exactly what I wanted to become. I knew I wanted to be a comic in the fourth grade, but that speech contest really showed me the vision, right, to like that I could actually do this in front of people and do it well. Wow. That's it. Because somebody spent time with me and when I talk to teachers and when I talk to students, I talk about like, how, you know, teachers spend more time with you.  You know, they might find that gem in you. And I think she saw something that I never see, my parents never see and I'm so thankful for her and like I said, all those teachers that helped pave the way for me, yeah.  What was your first job in terms of? Man, I remember coming home and I just won the Golden Gloves and at that time, the ABF in Hawaii and like everything was like was laid out for me. My parents was fired up. I won an outstanding fighter for both tournaments.   And I remember coming home, telling my dad and my mom what happened and my dad was like, well, man, I guess she got to work, you know, you got to take care of your family. That's your responsibility. You got to go take care of your family. So my first job was at Jack in a Box, but how can you afford taking care of your family working for $3.15 at that time, you know, and was tough? And luckily, you know, I paid attention in school when it came to like, you know, applying for jobs and understanding qualifications. So I saw, you know, opening for food service worker at the hospital, Capulani Medical, went in for an interview. I insisted on an interview and we made a deal and I was there for 16 years. Yeah. I worked at Capulani Medical for 16 years. And you know, dad really helped me take care of my family, you know, because I was making money. And my dad, my dad worked at the city and county, but I was making about the same amount of money as my dad, you know, working at the hospital.  It's not going to come knocking on your door. You definitely went to go get it. Oh my gosh, you know, I'm very thankful for that, believe me.  Okay. I have five all together. Yeah. We have a blended family. Okay. Love them all. Very unique personalities and very resilient day.  Easy for my kids to get bullied when their dad is an entertainer in Hawaii. Yeah. Because I think, you know, my kids haven't made. The reality is that I work hard like everybody else to make sure that, you know, they get the things that they need. And at the same time, I also tell them that you cannot depend on me. You got to go above and beyond because people are going to expect that from you because they think you haven't made.  For sure. For sure. They all get tough kids and they all work really hard. So I'm proud of them all. I'm proud of them. And then I noticed that your daughter, Mahia, she's starting a brave campaign. Can you tell me what that is? Well, at 11 years old, she was bullied in school and we were able to identify that.  But we got to fight some time in a day to find out what's happening in your children's life. And we realized that my daughter was having difficulty, right?  Got that all resolved with her, you know, and she was able to take the challenges in her life. She wrote a book when she was 11 years old. That's amazing. And she got it published when she was around 13 years old and then she started reading to schools because she is into pageants. So that was her platform. You know, she wrote a book called It's OK to Be Different. Great. And she started to read to, like, elementary school kids and pretty soon we started getting calls. Hey, can you come and talk about your experience with middle school kids? And that's where she looked at me and she goes, I need your help. So, you know, we developed a program for elementary school kids, middle school kids and high school kids because she had a vision to talk about what she went through to help other kids in Hawaii. Yeah. So, you know, I always tell people, she's the one that's going to buy me my house. I like hearing about that, Augie. And you got, you started in radio a long time ago and you're still involved in radio.  You know, it's so polarizing, right? People on the left, people on the right, and they forget about people in the middle, you know, and I just like entertain people.  Just laugh. I mean, when you're driving in traffic, you know, the last thing you like hear is bad news, right? So I try to be as funny as I can and lighten up the morning instead of being so, you know, so polarizing with, like, bad news, you know, so I try to make it light. OK. Now, how did you get your start into comedy and why did you like comedy so much? Well, you know, like I said, I saw Andy Bumatai in the fourth grade. My dad just sent me away to Maui because he wanted me to be influenced by my older cousins because he knew that, you know, if I stayed home, I would probably hang out with the wrong kind of guys, do the wrong kind of things. So he would send me to Maui and my auntie took me to an Yvonne Elements concert. OK. You know, Yvonne Elements. She said, if I can't help you, I don't want nobody. And I was like, why am I here? My Filipino auntie was rocking. I was like, why am I here? Put on the guy that was opening for Yvonne Elements and Andy Bumatai was the opening act. And I saw this guy make 3,000 people laugh. And I went, that's what I wanted to become. That's what I want to be. I want to be a stand-up comic. And like I said, you know, through eight grade guidance. And then after my boxing career, I had six professional fights, but I always knew I wanted to be a stand-up comic. So I went to the Honolulu Comedy Club, I signed up, and then the rest is this. It was so funny. I was like kids, when you're really passionate about something that you love, believe me. The universe hears it. They hear it. You know what I mean? And I'm not lying. Within the first month, two months, I met every single guy that I grew up listening to and watching. How crazy is that? You know, I was walking in the elevator at Kapilani Medical, and I saw Andy Bumatai. I went, Andy, it's Andy Bumatai. And we talked for about at least three hours. Wow. So my job is watching it. Yeah, I wasn't working for almost three hours because I was with my idol. And we talked. And two weeks later, I met Booga Booga because they were opening at the Honolulu Comedy Club, and I was a big rapper, I played a fan, and I saw James Grant Benton and Kyle Hale, and holy smokes, right? And then Andy, I was Andy's opening act. Andy took me to Kauai, I met Malcolm Bang.  So like, everything kind of all fell in place when you put your heart and your soul, and you really, you know, go after something that you really, truly love doing, yeah? Wow, that's awesome to hear. Augie, we're going to take a quick break, and then when we come back, we're going to continue going beyond comedy. Sounds good. You are watching Beyond the Lines on Think Tech Hawaii with my special guest, Augie T. We'll be back in 60 seconds. Aloha, my name is Mark Shklav. I am the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea is on Think Tech Hawaii every other Monday at 11 a.m. Please join me where my guests talk about law topics and ideas and music and Hawaii Ana all across the sea from Hawaii and back again. Aloha. Hi, my name is Amy Ortega Anderson, inviting you to join us every Tuesday here on Pinoy Power Hawaii with Think Tech Hawaii. We come to your home at 12 noon every Tuesday. We invite you to listen, watch for our mission of empowerment. We aim to enrich, enlighten, educate, entertain, and we hope to empower. Again, maraming, salamat po, mabuhai, and aloha. Welcome back to Beyond the Lines on Think Tech Hawaii. My special guest today is Augie T., who is one of the funniest comedians in the state of Hawaii, and today we are going beyond comedy. Augie, I noticed on your performances that you don't use any profanity. How did that happen? Well, you know, one, I think people like bringing their families to shows, you know what I mean?  And I tell you why I started doing clean comedy. One, early on in my career I did this thing, I did a weekly thing at this club in Kali called Boomers. It was run by this Faraday graduate.  But weekly, once in a while, Pat Morita would come by. Oh. Yeah, Karate Kid, Pat Morita would come by. So he was sitting back there one night watching me do comedy and then several weeks later he came back and he said, hey, you know what, you funny, but try to be, Alexi, you really be yourself expressive. That means using every language you could possibly use, you know, even swearing. You only get six people. Just go for it, right? So I said, oh yeah, okay. So I was doing, I mean, for the six people there, if you're watching, you probably saw the best show ever because I was able to express and really, you know, do material that, you know, I would normally just do between, you know, you know, not in front of the camera or on stage and I had a great time that night and I could actually feel the freeing effect of just being oggy for that moment, right?  Okay, I only could hear laughter. The six people at Pat Morita in the back and then my dad and my uncle walked in and my dad, even despite being who he was, he never like see any of his kids using that kind of language in public. Oh, my dad came on stage to tell me what you're doing, I'll be talking that way, I'm arranging for talk that way and he's swearing what he's talking to me now, right? I'm 32 years old, I'm going, you're telling me I'm 32 year old, man, listen how you're talking, I don't care. You don't talk like, my dad was scolding me in front of six people and I could hear Pat Morita in the back just laughing. So when I say you probably saw the best comedy show that night, yeah, you saw me get scolding from my dad, I was 32 years old and my dad is scolding me on stage and I swear to God, if he had on stick, he probably hit me too with the stick. So there's a side of me that's still traumatized that my dad at any moment could pop up and even being dead, even his spirit, maybe when I'm talking, just punch me on the face or something. But yeah, I've worked clean ever since that. And then Andy, when I worked at Andy, I think one night I came in and I used the S-word as I do, don't ever use that. You're not going to make money doing comedy that way in Hawaii because people are still family oriented and you can get more gigs doing it that way. And it's true, I was able to do a lot of great gigs because I don't use profanity.  How did that feel going from six people to selling out the arena?  When I realized maybe 10 years into the business, I was like, wow, this is actually a business. So I came up with a business plan. I came up with like how am I going to take comedy to the next level in Hawaii? I wanted a great business card. So the business card was the first DVD live from the Hawaii Theater. And what I did was I went and I talked to sponsors. I talked to people like McDonald's, First Hawaiian Bank. And I said, look, this is what I do. And they helped me fund my dream, basically. And then right after I did that, man, the comedy career just kind of took off that business card, the first DVD live from the Hawaii Theater. I did so much for me in my business card to everywhere for people on the mainland before social media. People were buying my DVDs and I was packing places. So I took the business serious maybe 15, 16 years ago. People don't know the 10 years before that. Oh, you come do comedy. How much I get in pain? You want me to make a plate? You want me to make a plate? You know what I mean? It was like that kind of gigs. Yeah, OK, I'm going to make a plate. Thank you. You just did 20 minutes, 30 minutes of comedy. And they're going to pay you with a plate. And I remember opening for amazing acts like Capena. Early on in my career, yeah, I only got $50 bucks for opening. But then they put me in front of 20, sometimes 20,000 people. People who never knew who Augie was. And I was able to do the kind of comedy that I like to do, yeah? And man, it's just been an amazing ride.  How does it feel to be performing with them on these tours? Yeah, no, it's surreal. I mean, like I said, not even two months into my comedy career. I started meeting these guys, right? These guys were in my life giving me some amazing advice.  I'm just talking about like putting characters, right? Andy showed me the professionalism side, right? Frank showed me the performance side. Mel showed me that you got to be real. Doesn't matter if you're performing in front of three or 20,000 people.  Relating to that one person and everything else all kind of falls in place. Be yourself. So, you know, when I started working with these guys, you know, of course, you know, I wouldn't tell them that.  Yeah, totally. So it's awesome, man. I love hearing how it all comes together and your trajectory is still, I mean, it's huge. Yeah, you know, we just did a show a couple of weeks ago and these guys are still doing it even at that age, you know? And, you know... That's impressive. Well, people want to come. People want to escape, you know what I mean? Like people want to sit there and be entertained. And that's why I'm always appreciative when people come to the shows because we're getting information and we're getting entertainment off of phones. It's not personal that way. You know, you're laughing at somebody in a phone. It's not like coming to a live show. Someone's saying something and there's a response. How... I mean, that's... You know, people... We got to communicate. We got to talk story. Can I be texting? Looking at someone on phone? You have to communicate. But Augie, reading books is okay, right? Really all. Because you know my book, Beyond the Lost. I love the segue. Of course, Rusty. I love my book. I can relate to several characters that we're talking a little bit about it.  Like that was it. Done. There's a lesson to learn in everything bad or good. And when I saw the lesson on how he felt like he was a man and you cut it in line. Yeah, because it's all about character and discipline. Right. And helping everyone achieve their full potential. Right, and the book was so simple to read. And me being dyslexic, it takes a while. Yeah, but I got everything. Because when I'm reading something, I want to be able to absorb everything that I got. So it's a simple book to read, very relatable. And yeah, you might not be being tennis. But the life stories behind, you know, it does. Yeah. Yeah, you can relate to a lot of it. If you deal with people, it will relate to you. Of course, 100%. Read the book. See, Rusty, read the book. Hey, Augie, we like going beyond the lines. Of course you have to. Yeah. You have to go beyond the lines. It's the only way to live. I always tell, especially living on an island, right? I always tell kids, like, what's stopping you from getting to where it's fear. You know what I mean? When you get people, believe it or not, there's so much people that want to help you out to erase the fear. It's just about you taking that step beyond the lines. What you do that? Amazing things can happen, whether you win or lose. Amazing character development. I know I can never always win. But what am I learning when I'm losing? Sometimes that's the most important thing to learn. Totally. Now, Augie, what is a common misperception that people have of comedians? Man, like, beyond 24-7. People know, like, I am not on 24-7. I can be on. But I never have a dark childhood like every comic. You read about comedians, and they all get this really dark hidden.  You know what I mean? I love the fact that my parents were dysfunctional. I loved that the people around me were very dysfunctional. But at the same time, I know that when I decided to become Augie the comedian, I knew that I was public property. And I knew that I had to be friendly, be nice. And it does, you know, sometimes it's hard. When I'm pushing a wagon in Foodland, and somebody go, oh, you cannot grouch yet? Or you think I'm, like, 24-7? I'm trying to get my groceries and get out as quick as I can. But they just think, you can be funny everywhere. And that's not true. That's not true, you know what I mean? Well, you're very real. And you're an open book. I love that. And everybody loves that about you. But I want to know, Augie, what do you hope to aspire to achieve in your future? You know, I'm 50 years old after doing this comedy thing for 27 years in the entertainment business, 27 years. I'm stepping back. March 2nd will be my final show.  Augie's Last Stand at the Blazda Arena. And I think it's starting at $10. So I'll bet $10 at the arena. Can I go wrong? Can I go wrong? And bring your whole family, because it's going to be a night of comedy. But I just felt like the excitement is not there anymore. And I want to try to do something not that my kids are in college and out of the home. I can do the things that I wanted to do at 29, maybe one of the benefits of having a family early in my life. Now I can go out and explore and do things that interest Augie like I want to travel. I want to try to do comedy on the mainland. I want to possibly run for office in 2020 and get kids involved in the whole being American and having a right to vote, participating, and making a difference. You know what I mean? If somebody like me can do something like that, I want to inspire other kids who think they cannot. They can. It's like what she says, going beyond the lines. If you can do that, you can not only change the way people see you as a person, but you can change maybe a community, maybe even a state. So that's something that I aspire to possibly do. Because I can tell you in two years, I have goals. I have goals. That's one of them. But anything could happen. Anything could happen. And that's one of them. Traveling and maybe possibly running for office. No, I love hearing that, Augie. And I like, I mean, you are inspiring so many people. And you are continuing to inspire so many people. And when I hear about people selling out the Blaisdell like comedians, hey, it's Kevin Hart. It's Joe Coy. And it's Augie T. Thank you for being on the show today, Augie. Thank you for having me. And thank you for watching Beyond the Lines on Think Tech Hawaii. For more information, please visit my website, RustyKamori.com. And my book is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and all Costco stores in Hawaii. Buy a book. I hope that this show inspires you to create your own superior culture of excellence and to find your greatness and help others find theirs. Aloha.


just recently went up on there. We do all the financials, core financials, as well as the supply chain applications. We use mobile supply chain management along with our handhelds. We're looking at moving into point of view. Live from New York, it's theCUBE, covering Inform 2016, brought to you by Inform. Now, here are your hosts, Dave Vellante and George Gilbert. Welcome back to New York City, everybody. This is theCUBE, Silicon Angles flagship product. We go out to the events and we extract the signal from the noise. The folks from Footlocker are here. We're going to talk a little sports, a little human capital management. Alexis Trigo is here. He is the director of store capability is joined by Robert Perkins, who's the VP of talent management at Footlocker Inc. Gentlemen, welcome to theCUBE. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on. All right, Robert, we're going to start. Okay. So Footlocker, the brand is all about like cool sports stuff, right? Sports gear. I got to ask you, Kevin Durant trade. Thumbs up, thumbs down. Is he selling out? What's the deal? Ooh, I'm going to probably get myself in trouble here, but I have to give it a thumbs down. I think it's not going to create parity in the league. It was a bad trade. I was surprised they didn't block it the way they blocked Chris Paul when he was trying to go to the LA Lakers. So I give it a thumbs down. So they're team stacking, right? I'm a Celtics fan, so it was kind of bummed that, you know, they were in the running, little tease, but so anyway.  Yeah, so I mean, we're a leading global athletic retailer. We operate in 23 countries. We have multiple different brands, but we curate the best different type of sneakers and athletic powerl and experiences with some of our great grand partners from Nike to Adidas, et cetera. Okay, so you got store capability and talent management. What does that mean to people who don't necessarily know your organization? You know, from a talent management standpoint, really our team's focus is on helping to build leadership and organizational capability, making sure that we're developing the talent out there that can help to move our business forward. Okay, and so you're helping the stores find people? Yeah, so what we do is actually, we partner with our subsidiary heads of operations and we look for synergies in terms of how we can actually make our assets more productive. Because when you think about it, it's the experience that really sets us apart in terms of the customer coming in. It's not just about the product, but it's also the culture around the sneaker, the culture around the player, or whatever that product's background is made up of. So, you know, it's just figuring out ways that we can ensure that we're delivering that experience consistently in all of our properties across the globe. So is it fair to say that you envision like an outcome of an interaction with a customer and you kind of work backwards from there to find the right people to deliver that outcome or is that just too prescriptive or? No, I think it's a really fair statement, right?  So, you know, that's really our key focus in mind. When we work with our brand partners, we think about our pinnacle consumers and what's that experience they're looking for? What are some of the things that drive them? You know, and they vote every single day based on the product that they buy, how much they spend and how they wear it and how they choose to engage with us. So it's an incredibly competitive business, right? So how do you guys differentiate and how does human capital help you differentiate? Well, you know, I think from a customer experience standpoint, we hope and believe that is our differentiating factor, you know, the experience. Yeah, you know, one of the things we look at is just our candidate flow. You know, we get over 1.5 million candidates that apply for over 30,000 jobs that we have on an annual basis. So people want to work for Footlocker. You know, it's a fun place to work. It's a fun experience and we hope that our customers have that same experience when they come into our stores. The product knowledge of our associates, the extra service and attention that they pay to them to help them get what they're looking for, whether it's a pair or a footwear or accessories. People talk about like a war for talent in the technology business, you know, Google versus Facebook versus Amazon. You have a, there's a war for talent, I imagine, in your business, but it's a much larger volume and it's maybe not a belly to belly war. It's maybe, you know, brand and attracting the people into that experience. Maybe talk about sort of how you do that. Sure. Yeah, you know, I think you kind of hit that. It's really, it's a war for talent, but the reality is it's about the experience. And the one thing that we afford is there's a culture out there around the brand, about the products that we sell. And as Robin mentioned, we have the 1.5 million candidates that are always seeking opportunities to work with us. You know, I think the key for us is helping identify who those, right, who those specific talent is that needs to come to join us and can create that experience. And that's one of the things that we're here at Inforum and we actually partnered with them to use their talent science to help us be more predictive in thinking about who we can actually bring into the organization that can help cultivate that experience. Yeah, so I was going to ask you, how does data fit in? Can you use data science and analytics to actually do a better job of targeting the right people, attracting those people, retaining them? No, and we, yeah, so talent science is exactly that. We're using predictive behaviors to see how we can actually see the candidates that actually take an assessment against profiles that we've actually built behind the scenes with our partners at Infor to find individuals that will be more likely to be successful when they join our environments that are a closer match of success for each one of the brands that we operate, whether that be Footlock or Chance Boards or a Foot Action, et cetera. We're looking to bring talent in that can actually help bring that experience to life that that consumer's looking for in that segment. Is there anything that really surprised you in the data when you first started, you know, going down this journey, anything that stood out as, wow, we didn't know that or, okay, we knew that, but now we really have the conviction because the data supports it. Yeah, well, I mean, I think everybody was surprised when we went down this road, because as we said, we don't have a problem attracting people. So, you know, the old traditional way of hiring people, which was very inconsistent, a lot of times based on likability, it was working for us, we were very successful, but when we implemented talent science, the difference we saw in terms of the increase in sales per hour of our associates and how much more of the people that we were hiring through the assessment tool and having to sell in behaviors that were able to impact the performance of the business, we saw a decrease in turnover from associates, you know, all of that having a financial impact to the bottom line, and even the administrative efficiencies of just really recruiting fewer people or needing to recruit fewer people and having that sort of accuracy of picking the right people has had a huge impact for us operationally. Has having that data available changed? I heard one of the speakers this morning, you know, talking about transparency, I mean, has it affected transparency and has that allowed you to, I don't know if it's just create, you know, greater loyalty amongst employees or talk about that a little bit if it's relevant. Well, when you think about how these, Robert mentioned we've been able to reduce turnovers, so the associates are more engaged, they're staying longer with us, they're adapting to selling behaviors quicker and adapting to the journeys that the consumers are looking for. So, you know, I wouldn't necessarily say transparency is the right word, but rather there's, they're adapting more to the environment that they're in. And I think the data's helped us to isolate what those behaviors are and that DNA that they, that Info calls it, that allows us to be able to predict and prioritize and pre-select certain talents. And then align with that. And align with that. You have a younger workforce, presumably, right? And they, that younger workforce, from all the data I've seen, looking for different things than maybe, you know, the greatest generation or the baby boomers, right? I mean, yes, money's always important to everybody, but they're looking for a sense of belonging, a sense of being part of a team, a sense of being part of that mission, right? Do you find that? Yeah, I think so. I think we would both agree with that. The reality is it's a culture. There's something great about being part of a Footlocker's organization, whether that means the product, the celebrities, the athletes, there's so much that our brand brings to life that, you know, you go into these stores and the teams are just excited about what they get to do every single day. And every single day is a new opportunity. You're never meeting the same customer twice in the sense that you're always having a revolving door of people that are coming in, so it's always new. Sure, you built your clients that come back, but it's always a new experience. And it's the product that creates that. It's the love of the culture. It's the love of what these sneakers do that keeps everyone coming back and wanting to work for our organization. And I think we created a winning culture. You know, I think people feel a lot of recognition and rewards are in place, both individually and as a team, in terms of how they participate in the success of their store, participate in the success of the company. We're really good at internal mobility. Most of our promotions come from within. Very infrequently, do we actually go to the outside to have to promote to management positions within a store? So they realize when they're signing up, they're signing up for a career and not necessarily a job within Foot Locker, which also helps us with retention. That's huge for people. The company's willingness to promote from within and you sending that signal is big. And of course, the other great thing about sports is it's just always changing. There's always a new star, so it has a good spot. All right, we're out of time, but just each of you, last thoughts on Inforum 2016, takeaways, things you learned? You know, it's a great opportunity to connect with other clients and see some of the challenges that they're experiencing and recognizing that, you know, we're in this together and wish some solutions that Inforc can help us as we think about our long-term plans around talent and being successful out there. All right, Robert. And I love the benefits of the client conferences. Alexis said opportunity to understand how other clients are applying their different tools within their workplace helps to give us some insight on how we might expand our relationship with Inforum. So, so far enjoying it. It's been a good learning experience. Great, excellent. People, culture, innovation, sports. We're bringing it to our CUBE audience. Alexis and Robert, thanks very much for coming to CUBE. All right, thank you. Thank you, David, appreciate it. All right, keep it right there, everybody. We'll be back with our next guest right after this short break. As colleges and universities use an


Clay Badenok and Andrew Dunbar congratulations classic winners and a really tough event It takes us toll on these cars, but you guys have kept on keeping on well done. Yeah, thank you It's it's been a long tough event the cars Suffered some damage over the over the over the course of the event But and we had a good battle with Tony both days other than the he had he had some mechanicals yesterday But we had a tough battle every stage he did and I think he got me overall today But yeah, we had we had great fun Just just it was a bit of a mind game today just how hard to push with it That's the challenges that are you going to watch the overall results this weekend been an endurance round versus the you know The leg result as tough tonic balance all that off, isn't it? Oh, it is and I think look I mean we really sort of had a look at lunchtime today and then Yeah, I thought we were going to back off, but that last stage was just that was the fastest stage we've done all day So When you get in the groove though this car is unbelievably good to drive isn't it it is but and you but you've got to be aggressive with it you got to drive try and drive like Neil Bates and You can't do pretty good with that. Yeah. Well, I don't know but um, you have to Yeah, you can't just turn it in. I want to go to drive aggressively So this morning we're trying to you know, just be cautious and it just was worse So we just got stuck in and just dodged the buckets from all the classics. Congratulations. I win as this week


The study reports a new type of MoT2 monolayer called CT, MoT2, which has been constructed by introducing mirror-twin boundaries into a pristine monolayer via molecular beam epitaxy. Low-temperature scanning tunneling microscopy and spectroscopy, STM-STS, together with theoretical calculations revealed that the monolayer has an electronic Janus lattice, an energy-dependent atomic lattice, and a T-epsudosub lattice. The study identifies two broad and two prominent peaks in STS spectra corresponding to Dirac-like and flat electronic bands inherently existing in the CT lattice, and verifies these findings with density-functional theory calculations. Additionally, two types of intrinsic domain boundaries were observed, one of which maintains the electronic Janus lattice feature, suggesting potential applications as an energy-tunable electron tunneling barrier in future functional devices. This article was authored by LaLayee, Gioti Dai, How You Dong, and others.