lm supposed we were talking if ease the income would a potential now rester don't see you guys now they were in content together and I was just asking that question to clear the Supersive an hips so many questions I was looking for Liz Back and no kwaati kwaa moOneinhap kedinga Okey La Nina Can't You Know, I've been working and it's just been a while since I got out. Yes, you must be getting a haircut. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I like it. Now I'm introduced to KwaTona Cuoda. Maybe for the first time. I wish I had a good news. But I'd be happy. Oh, my God. My name is Lilith Boy. I'm a Creative Director, Digital Marketer and Content Creator. Title Zito. Motto. Lilith Boy is who? I'm in High School. Oh, so it's a name that you carried on from high school. Aha. So, Litboi, the last time I saw you, you were a kumbuka mato kumbuka ya mani niku. We didn't post. Yes, yes, yes. Riga kwa mi oni per mic drop kwa fajaji. Direktanguata inserti o klip. Kwa na yo? We are to the Litboi. We are to the Litfiles. So, Litboi, let's start your journey on TikTok, okay?  Nakmukazi lewidoza karate. Muna zikumbuka. Aha. So, talk to us about bile ulianza. Why you idol, amatulika tu kasana. Hey, by the way, I really want to be a content creator. Let me start this. Ilianza aje. First time of professional dancer. So, everything Ilianza na dance. Before karate ilikwa nishanz. Karate ilikwa the second step. Semestra goals. Hey. Inafanyuwa fikiri etana. And then ilikwa takatu way out. Na zasa maebo. You wanted a way out. A way out. And how was it navigating through TikTok is omatimes? Ilikwa, at first ilikwa. So, na isema aji. Surprise. Ya. All of a sudden umu jilikana. It's not easy. Jilikwa at Gkeshevejiiko. So, ilikwa surprising lakini tulif handle. Polepole tu. Polepole. Polepole. Do you think money comes before the fame? Okay. Famous. Ulipata tumal. Doe, easy. At once. Ama kwanza ulikwa. Una jilikwa. Una jilikwa. Where we live post. Dangan yukura pesa. So, okay. No kwa soko kushu. Uta ulikwa. Uta ulikwa. Serepa. Lekini mfuku una saafa ilikwa jia utahila. conversions masters hongi heateri kiza hib GPS. Uta ulikwa jела. We excited. So, I stillided. So, I stillided. This product, where she came in, she was famous and she had no money. Linuxia, monetary terms. No money, things that you think to spend home. I wanted to try. I'll give you a hand when you know where to find yourself in. So mufil unafatu kwa humble na wende letu na butu za kupolepuali. So usi ake yo fam, yoni kitu wa china wa kitu wa uta kuwanani. Guy. Nuna. Nuna. So lazima ukwe kin na in life. Ya. And in the beginning it was, should I call it team work, I don't know, but nukam na fanya so many videos na moya David, where did you guys meet? Um, tuli ita sakia pwemwanda. Mulitza sakia wa, pitu na tukakuja niwa piyuku mulitza sakia. We started dancing moya like 2 years ago. 2 years ago. Meme mwake kisha dakwa 3 years. Um, tume koutuki bush, ona joa success tsemi na honga chain, success ni chain. So I think it will happen to you. Gwada se mani leo ase tinye. So at the time when you guys were collaborating, um, muli kwa na dreams pwemoja ama ili kwa trile kusidiana kusababu, um, you guys sort of have different styles of dancing like as much as 4 dancers, like you can really see the different styles in kilam tu ako unique kiviake. Um, teme ni sapot. Um, teme ni sapot. Nukam na sapotiana. All right. And now that you started dancing omeanza karate, which is that one experience ni uli fanya wukasimambeze, ni tacha kwenakushtwa wa tukwa streets. So I think it will happen to you. Okona cha kuleina taka. Amunuku pwesh tukna. Kuna video yama sayi fulani? Yes, emutabu yaku siyo. Tuli kwa ambuse li. Tuli kwa nenda oma kuchuli. Tuli kwa kutumeka 3 days. Ili kwa shooter at kutumenda kuna. Ili kwa kazi o time. Nona kumeta ili kwa at na pwesh. So ituki toka at famukshuk na oma sayi. Sa tuli kwa na prank. Aoma ama. So aja oma na oma sayi. Sa ekaha pe lakini. Tuli elewa na tu. So no one got injured? Nah. We thank them. Kusabu zile mafimo niliwa na apani katsema wei. Labda muli pigo muka kanyagia. Kilek chili bosa. Nuna doldu sayi niya. So omeanza karate, you went, kidoko kidoko tukona now you've transitioned to making people happy, dancing in the streets. How was that transition na nimi nili kufanya uone achani achani na izi bili zaka karate sana sana. Lemi make people happy. Onaji okia content creator. Yo title nia onafa kwa involved. Like every step onaji affiliate with success na nipata. So every time step by step lazuma So it was a form of semi growth. Content creator lazuma kwa na growth. Lazuma kwa na growth. And when you started making, lemi call it positive content making people happy, nividiogani uli fanya ama who did you dance to mwenyali kufu rahisha sana. Uka filenyo hiya I feel very fulfilled. Like everyone. Every smile yuna mata. So kila video yung yuna mata. Kila mtu wana smile laki namaata. And these locations that you go to is the so called waw na fanya location scouting ama kuna endangaji. So research, alafutra investia video. So how much does it take to make a video? Let's say car location in Bali transportita kula, costumes, piya kuna otua okipatana, atake kuwachua buure, so si pesani yung laki niya. Is there a video in specific that you can remember? It was sort of a breakthrough for you. Spanguin. How was that? The story behind I was, I was doing, I was doing a Safarcom promotion, I was a dancer. So like, I have this idea, as I pulled through, jwata kia wana wana mbati shatumili kwa video. As I pulled through, twana wani taku, nikupe video, nikupe laki mbele. So I think I could work, laki ni kwa goadal fadagura ko liyagi. And kitu ni nge takakuliza, you know most people think TikTok, not most people, right now, people used to think TikTok is a joke. Unona, kazi ni kwa dance.  Ingo mwata sayi. Badukunam tu anona ni joke. Watu fikiri, unona yanda tu kolokiesha unona shoot. Situ travel a lot. Ato una jwa. Tuna travel a lot. Tuna taka personal yun lit boy. Ato kia na kutisha tiang, mendi kwa the home of happiness. So the home of happiness, sini rubi tikiaki. Unona ni leo. Kuna mtu ako tse mi sayi kerugoya, piya na taka, unona ni leo. So, lezimu jipush before we talk support. Na jwa stepia, kwa anza ni wona miki injinda, injina wona make. So kenye muu fanya, muu tembi accountis. To countis. Taki na investia video juna juwa skumuwaja.  Unona ni fanya salga. Yeah, I think ni ya salga. So we move. Very, very.  How is the situation? What I do, per sa sini ni sana, lakini as long ina, ina ni kimu mi na familiar, ina no muimu. So whatever, kwa machinda zgamai, mtu akini nuwa, per senti kido gui ni nga kwa. Kupush, kwa let's say, katukayo charity, kuna per senti ni nga iya, kuna per senti ni nga iya video. So, lakini ni nga iya, lasu moji push, tukuanda, doikam. Napali Tik Tok, I normally see people making money through live. Live. Urafa nga lives, lakini aso sele, wangi juno, nga moja kwa pa mugina, kwa pa uiwa na tusu, uiwa na tusu, jisend flowers, I don't understand what goes on there, but you do live. No. I don't understand what goes on there, but I understand what goes on there. I don't understand what goes on there. And you having 1.8 million people on Tik Tok behind you. When you wake up every morning, how does that make you feel? And how many followers do you have in your reach? I have many. I have many followers who follow us. I have many followers who follow us And let's say 1.8 million let's say kuna famili 8 o'clock jenda shule. Yes. So kuna rada gani mimi na fraya junu kuna follow us toing. Kuna wana kuna wana zasibu kuna follow us toing, kuna tembe wuku iwi. Ina sedia jemdu. So, kenjemu seyama, like, miniki make change, miniki nata make change. So me, the more I'm growing, the more I want these people to help other people. Nata katu kwe one country, one nation. Ya. Ile tumewunga nakabisa na nilewa. Ehi, wana. And do you think fam is addictive kwa sabobost po na na mkana kuna fika 1.8 million na kyeshof na kana fika 1.8 million na kyeshof na nilewa. Like, is it addictive? Um, kitu watua zi juwa, akuna kitu na kujanga easy. Ya. Na nilewa. Ata, watua wiliwa kini follow lewa na kwa nga proud juw, na step. Yes. Na nilewa. Sezia mkaka kyesho, nipak mkama, mkama. So, pia, kitu mwaja ngesu jihia address ni unezak wana fame lakini ujiku ihanduli. Na nilewa. Yes. Femtu kidogo ifek fanya wana, kanya gawa tu juw. Na nilewa. Inafa, ina mih, count, pole pole too easy. Juw, kaja tuu sezma table stand. Ya. Kitu tui fanyi keivi woya umiisha. Mkana China sezia wana to easy app. Wala rudi hocha. Wana. So, and let me take you back kidogo.  Was it, what was your initial dream? Kusaba mu tiktokimekam juzy juzy. Assuming now tiktok was not their plan ya ko initially li kwa gani, school wise, career wise, what did you want to pursue? I'm skona juo dance nida fisha mpumbari. Ya. Mi kezani li kwa na push ni doing logistics. Logistics. Ya. So, skona juo like, skona juo, skona juo dasuka apa. Lakin e, mu se mani jaan. Ya. Hebi lael kwen kuya apakation kuya ingini. Mm hmm. Alright. um, tiktok, I don't want to call the market saturated, but every day we see new dancers coming up. There's so many dancers on tiktok, ilam chana tiktok ku dance. Is there unity in dance? Like, ko there's so many dancers na isataja kina path brown, na jo flaticalos. Like how is it easy for you to like get a collaboration with another dancer? Is there that good partnership among all of you? Iko. Mm hmm. Lakin e, indahisa maji. Kudavanya na track free bring. Mm hmm. Like, sisi vijanachan tu mi kusi young people. Ya. Rafki ako takain ko na nendelea. Mm hmm. Na nendelea. Ya. So, like, inakumangu mu ju, na jo niki kushikam kono, kona the same goal kroja rota oxydian na trendlea. Mm hmm. Dan niki kutumi aju kona kitu na nendelea. Ya. So, like, Iko, mi na dasa, kusaba. Is there someone you still as mum taji, but have you ever reached to someone for, eh, na wakwa, eh, for collaboration and they were like, mm hmm, na iwezi. Um, I don't usually do collaborations. Mm hmm. Ju, like, kontin tiangu iko, ikoso, sisi gambi, lakin, ikoso unique. Yes. Edana, umtumingina, izifana. So, umtumingina, matu, rohosa fituapakwa interview. Anyway. Chokin gaba o Kenna, eh, nilu wana juja. Eh, what is your relationship with Kenna? And, when you guys were in talks about doing the collaboration, kus, honestly, I did not expect to see Litu Boe and Kenna working on a project. Like, mekwa friends, who reached out to the other, talk to us about that. Um, nasa maji. Izi, lim se muhambul sa mongalia. Niza taku juwakia shwana mekta fugari. Ya. So, like, nili kwa wana taku yoko, ioski yoko labo nili kwa wana shake, lakin, Kenna! Eh, kusia, mii numonumi, sezi kwa wana shake, lakin, nili kwa wana fil vizuri, izi, izi express. Ya, ibu.  Um, given the chance that maybe dance cannot, you know, pay your bills, do you have plans of opening businesses or having dance classes yukona plans gani? Ziko, ziko ni ingi, dance classes yukua. Plans ziko, mii watu ongaji. What happens to the dancing classes? Um, I think, tupiku wa busy sana. Aha. Udeza, patasande yuko place ingina dance class yukona eru. Ya. He traveled a lot, guys, that's what he's trying to say.  Achanigongia, kuna atu, napenda ka kenyan artist. Ya. Wako, wako so supportive na content. Big shout out to Ndofu Niku, Kali Graf. Kuna atu, wei ingi tu sana. Papa John. Kina X-ray, mii napenda kenyan artist, wana konga, watu se mas, J.O.O. Kenyan musia, fana kitu, klien utastaputio, and which is that one Kenyan artist munya ni your favorite ama zilingo wana kutuangawa zina, kutachitu kwa roho rinan mii. Nikona wei, mii otatze wat. Eh? Twambie, we have all the time, we have all the time. Achan se mii, wat. Aha. Wat eh? Kitu kani, Kali ni kali. Ata deyana bii, kila amtu. Eh, kila amtu. Bona sii ai, kuna support wana. Kuna support. Aha. And many girls out there they want to know is litboy single? Ako shai guys. Na kwa gashai, na kshu. Na kwa gashai. Na my single. Uko soko. Una juna nga soko kila time. So tijikamuko, soko. Sa sumuana, tijaku nib. Abana, litboy single, pei, so alimu trombie. Ningo mu? Ningo mu? Ningo mu, aya sa, kusamu megata kutwambia. In this era, would you be someone who keeps your relationship private? Ni shida kiposke uske o batuti. Kai. So mese bani once prior to kisonga. Aha, lakini. Na zase mawoto ako supportive. Mwoto ako supportive. Oh my goodness. Lelis bana haipaisima suali. Aha. And what's the weirdest thing fana asha yukufanya? Kuni hagtsana. Lakini inakongara. Aha. Lakini, ilikua, ilikua skuia kuwan jasu jipata reaction kaya. Aha. So like saying shazoia. Eish. Mese mawa shazoia. Aha.  Ona tukakujiwa. Are there things that you changed? Mi, ammi. Aha. So tukena tawa matmoto. Kuna tukule pene. Aha. Aha. Nuna tukule pene. Aha. Aha. So ibadu ume stick to the ground and how do you think eh, you know most of the time when you get famous ama watu ananza kukuna something start feeling weird like kwa matimtuna kwangali ako like listen nule tiktoka like how do you handle that? Ammus mama kwa matatu. Ammus mama kwa matatu. Nai haiti ako litubu aja kuna danga nyanesu una panda supamedro. Aha. Apatwala imus mama kwa matatu. Aha. Now I'm just saying you and they give you dilemma kids waiko apa.  Mstake u namus jami na Is What do you think about, now that you came on TikTok, you have a very unique style of delivery dance, you know we have so many copycats out there, how are you able to protect your ideas ini idea wu, and how does it make you feel to see someone doing what you do, like exactly what you do? Um, say na takawi fan. Na takawi fan na wu, na feeli accommodate move wu, nile wu. Wajag wu na super metro ni, wu wanda ka feyazz angus kai. Acha, acha kila mtofanya kitu rua ke inafila kwa sa nanilea. Um, unadiwa sa zingine. Unazaji unavesi big lakini, labda minroll mudelom tu. Alafu wuki mwambiao si jin contenti yangu na kil. Wuki mkil atatafta patingine niata siya ke. Ya. Drags. Acha afanya. Ya. As long na patayangu, na patayake.  When you were starting the videos, nkwa namoya David. Now a David don't see you guys creating content together. How is the relationship currently? Ikusawa lakini contentu weyunik Like kaza pata ni. Ikusawa lakini... Garlics. Like, in and cut. Wo mi na joma ni elewa. Na joma ni elewa. A, siya ku gasa. Relationship because kaza, lakini. Atwizi fana colaboration. I do dance comedy. Yana fana surprise sumama, as pata. kwa suprize wizi en taku wenda kupurankum tuwa luno chukwa mwa weakuna toroka So the relationship is good but the type of content that you do does not allow you guys to collaborate I was just asking that question to clear the air, katapilya so many questions tata nikiwa kwa logya ki, I was looking for a little boy, si kuwa na kwa ona milikua mo rangga milikua wana fa na kwa ji Kanada right, guys. Please clear the air, please. Nothing is okay. No.  Next week we're getting into the elections season. Young people are not even uptime. Of course. Let's get started. N exactly since these season like you look at most offices because info was in a bubble for a couple of days. How are you able to make sure that you still have content rolling out as much as kuuna作hemi elections a tbspody days. What is your strategy? Give some light and guys. There is something that is 10 videos in a day I shoot 8 videos in a day Oh 8? Am I revealing? I'll come back and ask I don't know if I'm fresh or not So there are 8 videos in a day So I'll make sure that At the time, at the time you're going to show the content you're going to show Yes, I'm going to show the content you're going to show I'm going to show the content you're going to show I'm going to show So if you grow I'm going to make another moves like you're going to learn what we're going to show every week I'm going to show the content next week you're going to see you're going to show business and you're going to show time The TikTok community like you saw in our days TikTokers are like a group TikTokers are now hard I'm waiting for this group but I'm going to show I would want to I would want to Sometimes I say to myself, but I am not sure in like most gathering Is there unity on TikTok? Nowadays, I am not sure we used to dance on TikTok Is this how I do it? When you are live, you say You are live on TikTok Yeah, I don't see you in that Is it that we are not buying that We are not buying that state spent Why is that that we are just seclude Actually, we buy it You know, just sometimes being inaccessible helps We are not able to do that We are not able to do that But just talk to us about that How do you make sure that regardless of how many people are coming in we stay unique and you don't just You know We are not going to do that We are not going to do that We are not going to do that We are not going to do that We are not going to do that We are not going to do that Yeah And TikTok apart from earning from endorsements to kukutia come and surprise do do do surprises We have a brand that is a brand placement That is a brand placement That is a TikTok creator account And that is like you get money from TikTok Come on YouTube the way you get money from subscriptions and brand placement So this other part of earning your TikTok is it active in Kenya? It is not It is not smart It is not smart Alright guys That was a last question I would want to know how many people around you want to take this whole tubing at TikTok 200% We want to support We want to support No up and out Alright You talk to someone out there when you want to share content but if you are a blank you can encourage You can encourage I encourage If you want to give up you can do it Before one is a Kitu You study You are a Kitu You are a Kitu You study Kitu You are so much better You can say Kitu is a Kitu Understand then do it Alright guys Those are some very wise words from the Kitu boy himself So please Make sure you take his advice and see you on the next one


Okay, we are rolling. Yeah. Yes. Hello. Brody Stevens is maybe the most beloved comedian in Los Angeles. There's nobody who dislikes Brody Stevens, other than maybe Brody Stevens. I fell in love with Brody at the improv, I don't know, 10 years ago. He was hosting the show and he was about two minutes into his act and just turned on the audience and told them he didn't need to put up with any of their crap because he just had a meeting with Jimmy Miller who was interested in him. And they didn't know who Jimmy Miller was and then he explained Jimmy Miller is Jim Carrey's manager, so you don't need this. And then he complained about management of the improv and the lighting and the sound system and the waitresses and the lineup. And I thought this is somebody I could be friendly with. Please welcome to the show my beloved Brody Stevens. Hello, sir. Yes, thank you for that great intro. Hello, David. I would say that you described that pretty vividly, accurately. Yeah, I get on, you know, I just feel that I've lived such a troubling life before comedy in comedy that I just can't take the audience going again. You're going to add to that? No, that's not going to happen. I've been beaten down too much. Now I'm fighting back. And a lot of times the audience is like they're neutral. They don't realize they're in the middle of it. I don't know who I'm going after, but the audience gets the front of it.  Sure. Okay. You had one of the most impossible jobs in Hollywood. That is a warm-up act for television shows. Nobody, very few people, very few comedians make the leap from warming up a television audience to being an edgy comedian and appearing on television because conventional wisdom is it's two separate animals warming up an audience for a TV show and then appearing on a TV show, two separate things. You seamlessly transferred from warming up a TV audience to starring and appearing on television. Why is that? Well, I think people thought it was funny. Maybe, you know, they saw me doing the warm-up. Yes, warm-up is very hard. I was just good at it. I was almost too good at it where I continued to do it.  So, but somehow I think just being around it so much and being in front of the cameras, I was able to, you know, I could do stand, I could separate it. I was still a stand-up comedian, but when I did warm-up, I was there to do my job, which is never, you know, to warm up the crowd, make the comedians on the show have the most real experience because I've been on shows. I could relate to them. I know what it's like when the audience is phoning. So, I would take care of the comedians. Let's make this real. And I think that, you know, comedians appreciated that and made for a better TV taping and looked better. So, you know, I did like 3,000 TV shows, but I kind of grown out of it, which is a good thing, but it's, it's painful. It's a hard job. You grow, but the job stays the same. Wow. And then you go to another show and now you got to start all over with these producers or stage manager. And it just became, you know, harder for me. But I grew out of it, but I'm not, I still feel like it's a good skill and it's fun to do when you're on the right platform there. Yeah. I want to stay with this, but first, I want my audience to know who you are because we have listeners all over the world and some of these people don't follow comedy and don't know how beloved you are. You've appeared on Late Night on NBC, Jimmy Kimmel, premium blend, the late, late show on CBS, the late world, late world with Zach, the best damn sport show period, Children's Hospital, Tosh Point 0, Fox, NFL. Hangover one, hangover two. Yeah, I'm getting to the movies. I'm sorry. I just jumped ahead. Whoa. Hangover one, hangover two. Jesus is magic. I am comic.  You're sitting outside of Starbucks. We're three years. I moved in the neighborhood. I thought it would be quiet or move down the street in the neighborhood. That's okay. And Comedy Central's Brody Stevens enjoy it. But I want to get back to warming up an audience. You've also done warm up for the best damn sports show, Late World with Zach, The Man Show, Chelsea Lately, The Burn with Jeff Ross, the Gesselnick Offensive, Ridiculousness, Who Gets the Last Laugh at Midnight and Why with Hannibal Barrest. I think warming up an audience as a standup comic is a kamikaze mission because then I'll be quiet. I want you to react to this and you kind of talked about it. But this is why I have so much respect for you. When I was working on one of the shows that you did, The Warm Up, the comics, the comics, the comedy writers would all rush down to see you do the warm up. I've never experienced that before where we all went down to watch the warm up guy, the guy getting the TV audience in the mood for the show. And that's the baton death march because you're trying to please 12 different masters when you're warming up a television show. You're trying to please the host who doesn't want you killing.  He doesn't want you boiling them over. Then there are the network executives who have no idea who you are, what you're doing and automatically dislike you because you're the warm up guy. Then you have the audience who you're servicing. You've got to keep them happy. Things go wrong during a television taping. There are stops and starts. You have to be in the moment, quick, spontaneous. You turned it into an Est meeting. Somehow you turned it into a Tony Robbins awake, the giant within and everybody left the show feeling better. You were like a tone. It was like a Tony Robbins event, right? Yeah. I mean, I think there's elements of that. Definitely. I mean, I saw, yes, because I saw the benefits of having an audience sitting up, engaged, focused, energy. I learned that at Best Damn Sports Show. That was my first gig back in 2001. It was my first real. I had done stand-up on TV at that point. I'd been on the CBS Late Show and I did a Comedy Central Premium Blend as a stand-up. Then I had a friend who was writing on this Saturday Night Live Meet Sports Show. They brought me in for the test show to do the warm-up. They brought me in and they ended up going with the show. For me, it was like, whoa, I get to be on the Fox lot and see all these great baseball players, Willie Mays, Ernie Banks, Pete Rose, all the great athletes they come through. It was me having a sports background. I loved it. It was my first paid gig, which I wasn't paid much, but that's where I learned energy because it was a sports show. I come from a sports background. I played baseball in college at Arizona State and back in 1988, when I was there, we were at Arizona State. We were learning about the mental energy from the baseball guys, the mental game of baseball. That's one reason why I went to school out in Arizona because all the Major League Baseball teams were training there. I wanted to be around baseball, but when we started learning the mental skills approach about being positive, I had a chance. It took six years into my comedy. When I did the warm-up and I was around the sports show, bringing positive energy because I would have football teams in there. Every high school football team in LA and the kids would be like slouching over. I'd go, guys, we got to bring it.  Let's go. The coaches would laugh. You're laughing. See? The coaches would love it and it made the show better. You're entertaining the crew. Also, the camera guys don't want to hear the same stuff. You're making fun of the audience, but you're also doing a good job. See? It's fun and you can be satisfied. The idea of a comedy show. The writers, first of all, we're the most miserable human beings on the planet. By the time the show starts, we're dead. We're dead inside. Now our bodies are dead. We show up to watch you and all of a sudden we're getting this pep talk. You never see that in television. Nobody peps up an audience and tells them to remain positive and then you keep complimenting everybody throughout the show. We have radium. Good job. We need a little more energy. Second segment. Let's push it. You're good. A little more from you. It's just it's reading them. Yeah. Here's the other thing. For me, I'm coming in at two o'clock with fresh energy. So I'm that second shift and I just like, yeah, wake everybody up and get them going for dinner. Do you mind if we talk about baseball because you may be tired of discussing it, but I might come to you at a from a different angle. So can we talk about baseball? Sure. You wanted to be a professional pitcher. You went to Arizona State. Your goal in life is to is to play professional baseball. You hang out with professional baseball players. Those are your true idols. I would say yes, I get nervous around baseball players. If you have one at bat in the major leagues, I'm nervous around you. And my influence is boxing.  So you're coming at stand up with a whole different mindset. Is that a fair statement? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm pitching up there. I mean, I'm pretty, let's say I'm one dimensional, but yeah, everything's like straightforward, push through. But yeah, sometimes you got to flip in a strike. Sometimes you got to throw one in the dirt, chase something. Yeah, it's that the same. I think my mindset I'm so in the moment, I can't like not help myself. That was the same thing will warm up. It's like when I'm, I don't know that's a good or bad thing, but I'm kind of like you give me one task and I'm zoned in on it. Okay. All right. So do you mind if I stay down this, this neural pathway is where I want to go for a little while with you. Do you mind? Thank you. Thank you. I want to compare you for a second to me because my dad and I used to have catches when I was a kid and Little League was very traumatic for me. I never understood baseball. I was bad at baseball. I was good at basketball, bad at baseball.  A professional pitcher. I never knew that a pitcher had a strike zone and was hitting corners and could throw it precisely where he wanted to throw it. I didn't know that until recently. So as a pitcher, you are a lefty, I believe. No, I'm right-handed.  I play drums left-handed. But you hold the microphone with your right hand, so I assumed you were a lefty. No, I'm right-handed. I'm joking. Do you know what hand you hold the microphone with? Honestly, usually the left hand, even though I'm right-handed. Was there a decision to hold it with your left hand? Do you ever switch up? Do you ever hold it with your right? No, I hold my phone with my left. I feel like I have more finesse with my left hand. Have you heard about this kid coming out of Seattle? He's a switch holder. He can hold a microphone on his left and his right. That's funny. Let me ask you about your pitching career. When did you first play Little League? 1979. Tarzana, you were nine years old. Yeah. What position did you play? Pitcher. Immediately you were a pitcher. Right into it. When did you know you wanted to be a pitcher? When I was just striking guys out. It was fun to throw the ball and strike players out. I mean, I played first base too. When you're in Little League, you play all the positions. I play a little first base, a little left field, but pitching was my thing. Before Little League, before Little League, was there sandlot baseball going on? No, I just was into trucks, breaking things. Before Little League, before organized Little League, did you have- Yeah, I had extra energy. Honestly, maybe riding bikes a little bit, or breaking a couple things. The doctor, whoever, told my mom, let him play Little League. So you would not, before organized Little League, you had not discovered that you wanted to be a pitcher? No, but I liked the Dodgers. My first baseball game was 1977. So that's when I started getting into baseball. I grew up with the Dodgers, and I would watch them against the Yankees in the World Series. Who introduced you to baseball? Probably my dad, and then my mom took over for the most part. My dad would be at all my baseball games. My parents were separated, but divorced. But if my dad was into baseball, he took me to Angel Games and Oakland A Games, because we lived up in San Francisco. I mean, Sacramento for a while. He took me to Reno, take me to minor league baseball stadiums. And I remember just going to Dodger Stadium and being around the atmosphere. So I was really into that. And then I think just playing baseball, I had a strong arm, and it was fun to strike guys out. So I just was a good pitcher in terms of like blowing hitters away, but I was wild. I would hit guys not on purpose, but I always just thought like a pitcher. I mean, that's how it is.   I mean, some guys do both of course, growing up, but I was always a pitcher. You know, that's kind of my way. I wasn't into sliding. I wasn't into running the bases. I'm not even into strategy. I'm just like, because it was one on one, I want to strike the guy out. I think that's what a lot of pitchers do. And that's a problem instead of getting them to hit a ground ball, maybe, but I was just able. Yeah. How old were you in little league when you were doing more than just throwing the ball over the plate? Um, pitching. Are you speaking about? Yeah. Yeah. When did I learn about how to become a pitcher? Yeah. When did you do a thrower when one of the joys of having children is little league? It's yes, it is. I hate to sound. I don't even want to go down that path, but some of the happiest moments of my life are watching my kids play little league. And one of the things I noticed is things you take for granted in watching baseball. When you watch little league, when you watch 10 year olds, just, you know, somebody hitting the ball to the shortstop and the shortstop throwing the guy out at first, it's a miracle. If a kid can do that at nine, it's like watching Lindbergh land in France. I mean, it's just an amazing accomplishment. It just looks so easy on television or at a major league game. But it's truly impossible for a nine year old to pull that off. As for the pitchers, were you able to place the ball? Were you able to look at the strike zone? What age were you saying to yourself, I'm going to throw this high and inside? When I became an all star in little league, what age? That was 1982, so I was 12. And I learned from a former major leaguer and from the all star coach also taught me how to throw a change up. He taught me how to pitch a little bit. You don't have to strike everybody out. Here's a little, put a little wrinkle on it because all I threw was fastballs.   And then when I got into maybe when I was like 14, then I started throwing a curveball a little more. Okay. What is a change up? What is a change up? A change up is basically just a slow pitch. You think it's going to be, you know, you have the same arm action. You hold it different in your hand, but they think it's a fastball and it's slow.  Their timing is off. You don't have, yeah, their timing's off. And they're going to pull, even if they make contact, they're going to pull the ball. Yeah. I mean, yeah, probably, yeah, they might not do a lot unless you hang it. I mean, that's a thing that's dangerous. Like if you throw a curveball and it's a slow hanger, they can crush it. I mean, they can hit anything these days, but it's a change up. You don't think about how they're going to pull. You're throwing a change up to usually strike a guy out or maybe usually to strike a guy out, I would say.  You're trying to get a ground ball with like a sinker, which is a fastball that kind of moves down. So when you think about ground ball, like your instincts are right, like, oh, he's going to pull it. The only time you think like he's going to pull it's like when you want to double play.  Okay. So, but this isn't Little League, is it? This is very sophisticated stuff. This is, uh, this is the growth out of Little League. This goes from, it comes quick.  Now the mound's further back. And now you're, then you go to the, then you're in high school and these kids in high school these days, these days, they train like major leaders. They're better now than, than they just have better training programs now. But for me, it was still learning the change up, changing speeds. You don't have to overpower guys. So then I learned the breaking ball later on. But first it was changing speeds. Before you get to, before you get to, you went to Arizona State for pitching. Correct. But I want to stay in Little League. I want to stay in Little League for a second. Okay. Back to Little League. Because I followed Little League. That was my passion when my kids were in Little League. That was, it might as well have been, you know, the 61 Yankees. Were the 61 Yankees great? I don't know. 27 Yankees. The 27, the 69 Mets. The 69 Mets. There you go. That's, that's Little League to me is the 69 Mets. Because you cannot believe, as I remember the 69 Mets, you couldn't believe they were actually winning and it was all teamwork. There was, there were really no standout. Well, anyway, but let me get back to Little League. So you got a kid, 12 years old pitching. What does he have? He has a fastball, right? Yep. Does he, does he, he doesn't have a change-up, does he? Yeah, he does. A 12-year-old in 1982. He has a change-up. He's got a change-up. But does that affect the timing on these Little Leakers? They're just trying to make contact with the ball, right? I mean, the ball, yeah.  Little League?  Yeah. Yes. There's guys who just, they, they only have one pitch. And that's why that maybe they're not that good or they're, you know, they're, I say when you're 12, these days is when you start, they're throwing curveballs at 12. In Little League or in all-star games? I would say a little bit of both, but when I played it was in all-star games. So, yes, obviously the all-stars are better. And I'm saying these days, the kids get better training and there's this better, I think it's training is what, what it is, and just better knowledge and better nutrition. So these kids are good for me. Hang on for one second. I'm kind of amazed by this. Okay. You start playing Little League when you're six, right? Seven? I was eight. Eight? I didn't play T-ball. I went, I went, I didn't go into coach pitch. I went straight in to International League, which is- Okay. But let me, let me get back to Little League. I'm very curious about this because- Okay. I, I remarry. I get my vasectomy reversed.  Yeah. All right. I know that story.  Is there a seven-year-old pitcher now? An eight-year-old pitcher on the mound going up against my son or daughter who can automatically size up the kid and say, oh, this is a piker. He doesn't play catch with his father. I can strike him out in three pitches. Is that how sophisticated nine-year-old and 10-year-old Little Leakers are these days? How old is your kid? He's, he's a seven-year-old playing against nine-year-olds? I'm a, I'm a 90-year-old guy. I have a, and I had a kid. But is the kid is playing against older kids? No, no, no, no. He's started, let's say, I, as I recall, my kid started playing Little League when they were seven. First grade. Okay, that's normal. That's normal. Yes. But ball, and then I skipped T-ball. I was that good. I skipped T-ball. I went right into the eight-year-old international league. Okay, so 45 foot mound. Well, hang on for one second. So I have, I have, I have an eight-year-old kid and I want them to start playing Little League. But I'm 90. I can't even pick up my own ball, let alone play catch with my son. So he's in Little League, and he's going to go up at eight years old, having never played baseball before, Little League before.  He's going to be sized up. You can, yeah, I would. I go, look at this kid.  I'm Jewish. All right. I could read, I read his energy.  I'm going to strike him out. One, two, three. You're into video games. You're into swim class. I'm into baseball. I'm taking ground balls. I'm catching. I'm hitting. Where are you? You're at the amusement park. But now when you step on the plate against me, I strike you out. That's what you do. Yo, there was a guy, he's friends with me on Facebook, Michael Conakow. He played for Lipton. That was the team in Little League. And he was, you know, eight years old, but he was a man, and he traumatized me. I played for Scholastic, the Little League team, growing up in Anglewood and he played for Lipton. And I just, I have nightmares of having to go up against Michael Conakow because he had a fastball. So you're that good at eight. You can be. Yeah. I mean, I had bad experience. Me personally, I wasn't like, I had some bad experiences too. I broke down on the mound. I cried. I got accused of throwing at kids, and I wasn't. And the umpire challenged me. He says, you were throwing at him. I go, no, I wasn't. And my, my, my coach really didn't defend me. I was kind of out there on my own. That was a traumatic experience for me. But I learned from that and made me stronger. And then I, the all, like I said, the all star coach, he taught me how to be a winner. He told me how to, how to think you're better. You're good.  And I saw from early on, going back to the warmup, I saw what a winning confident and doing the work and having a little bit of passion and caring you could win and be successful and help people's lives. And I saw that in my coach. He had a son and his son went on to be a major league coach and I'm friends with my little league teammate. And now he's a coach with the Chicago Cubs and all of that. How are they doing these days? How the Cubs doing? They won the world. I know, I know. You're joking, but he's been, he's, he was with the Yankees and that's the other thing. Joe Torrey was an influence on my little league coach. So I learned from major, I learned from a major league, a point of view, you know, it's like you're around major leaguers, you act like a major leager, you're around little leaguers or even college kids, you act like that. So I was around people and through them, I was kind of living vicariously through major leaguers. So, and they won. That's the thing. You're hanging out with the major leaguers and the, they were learning. My friend was learning from them and now he's a major league coach. He has five World Series rings and I use that proof when I did the warm up, how positive energy and caring mattered. And I learned that also at Arizona State. So all these things, I can kind of connect the dots, how baseball and comedy in my life are kind of intertwined. Wow. Me, you know, you know, because it's so, it's just a matter of inches and millimeters and centimeters with baseball and same thing with comedy. You can lose an audience. Right, right, right, right. Laura House, do you know Laura? Yeah, from Texas. Yeah. One of the, you know, she's one of these people you find out she's considered one of the top transcendental meditators, teachers in the world. Not that it's a competition. She is? Yeah. Yeah. Did not know that. Yeah. She teaches a type of meditation and she's considered like Chris McGuire, you know, Chris McGuire, right? The comedy. He hires you all the time. And he's got, and he, by the way, great baseball name as well, Chris McGuire. No relation to Mark. I know, but it just sounds like he's, he should be bad in cleanup.  So she was on the show talking about creating neural pathways in your brain towards positive energy. And then the next day, I'm on John Fugelsang show on Sirius, and he starts saying the same thing to me. Just the universe just was telling me, create neural pathways in your brain that lead you towards positive thinking. And as a picture, you can actually see the ball as a metaphor for a positive neural pathway. When you're thinking positive, when you're in the right groove, your, your baseball is a metaphor, as it goes to the catcher is a metaphor for the positive energy neural pathway that we all need to develop in our brains. Yeah, I mean, that goes back to what I learned with the visualization. It took me a while to get there too, because my mind was too active when they would sit us down at this 1988, close your eyes. And then it was the visualizing, but then it was also positive affirmations. And then you talk about the Tony Robbins that awakened the giant within. Of course, I read that some of it about taking action.  And I think that it's you, I got picked on for it early. I mean, it's so different. People aren't used to it. And it's like a nice kid. I think it's just about being nice, putting out positive energy.  So I think that's where some of my standup comes from. I don't want to be picked on anymore. And then I know that positive energy works. But I haven't been able to turn it into like being positive doesn't mean like you're happy. I just know that energy matters. And when I did warm up, yes, I had to be in a good mood. I couldn't bring negative energy into the studio. Always had to bring positive energy in. But that doesn't mean that necessarily positive about everything.  And you know, and I remember also hitting, there was nothing like hitting the ball. And so those moments, I get more, I mean, baseball's in my heart. I do comedy because people think I'm funny. I got into, I mean, I got pushed into comedy. I got pushed into standup through comedy trafficking school. You like that joke? I think it's true, though. I think you, didn't you weren't you at the improv? Weren't you involved with the traffic school there? No, I was in, I mean, I've done like, I've done gigs there, but I didn't do comedy trafficking school. I did. That's funny. Come see, I can write jokes David, but let me push, let me let me push you here. Let me push. I'm going to stay on this. Jeff Garland, Jeff Garland. Early on in our friendship, he said to me, there are two gifts from God. The Andy Griffith show. He said, you cannot be a happy man unless you understand the complexities of the Andy Griffith show. And then he said, the real gift from God is baseball. Are you going through, where are you? What does that sound? That's Burbank. I'm under the flight path. Oh, good. Let's see if that's Southwest or either going to Vegas. Yep, it's Southwest. He's taking off. Yeah, they'll wrap around. That's going to Vegas. Jeff Garland said that baseball is a gift from God. Does positive energy lend itself to other sports? Could you be positive in boxing? Can you be positive in football? Or is this positive energy solely the domain of baseball when it comes to sports? I think, I think definitely baseball is being positive. Yes, it's a daily grind. It's you're around these guys all the time. You're playing football. It's 16 games. Who cares about being positive? Just baseball is so individual.  Basketball. No, let's go back to the, stay with the positive energy. Okay, stay with the positive energy. I'm staying with the positive. I'm staying with the positive.  Yeah, I like basketball. I like football a little bit. I would assume basketball and baseball are similar. You need positive energy with with basketball as well.  That's not necessarily positive energy. I feel in life, positive energy matters when you're playing the game right in the middle of it. I don't know if like being positive matters. I think being confident, visualizing, I think, even getting a little angry. I don't know if being, I don't know if that's, I mean, some people would say that's not positive. But if you get angry and that makes you throw the ball, like strike a guy out, you can do that. I can't do comedy angry. I could play baseball angry. You know, I can pitch, I would take it, even though I would, I take the audiences personally, when a guy's digging in on me, you know, and he wants to hit a homerun or make me look bad, I'll strike them out. I would get, that's why I struck out. If you look at my stats, even at Arizona State, I struck out 28 batters and 23 innings. I always struck out guys. I wasn't the greatest pitcher ever, but I definitely was able to sniff the strike out and get it. And how does that feel? Great. Better than, better than getting the laugh. Oh, I was just going to ask you that at the end of, you know, driving home from a comedy show when you kill, you're sated. That's one thing about stand-up comedy is when a comedian knows when he came close to killing and they go home and they feel good and satisfied. Yeah. Satisfied. So the, you can finish a baseball game as a pitcher and be satisfied. Yeah. I gotta take a leak here, David. Let's pause. You want to pause? I'm going behind a bush. Hold on. Okay. Should I keep rolling for my listeners? Sure. I'm hiding. Okay. I gotta take a leak. All right. We're talking to Brody Stevens.  He's taking a leak on a wall. Both hands behind the bushes. Left hand, right hand? What do you hold? I urinate with my right hand. Okay. Under or over? Over. Are you choking up on it? I hold it like a drumstick. Oh, you choke up on it. I hope he's watching me. You know what I do? I put some donuts on mine before I pee to make it much heavier so that when I actually have to pee, I take the donut off and then I have. I'm still peeing, by the way. Good. You have a nice flow where it was very strong. But it is. I'm still going, David. Still go. Now it's on my ankles. It's switching on my ankles. Okay. A couple of shakes and I'm back. I've emerged from the bushes and I'm back. Greatest moment ever on my podcast. This is a first, Brody. I feel so much better. Well, we got to wrap it up. Thanks for being on the show. Oh, the last, yeah, the last five to eight minutes, I had to go, I had to go take a leak. You could tell. I was getting scatterbrained. That's what people should say. Why are you scattered brain? What's bothering you? I got to take a leak. Oh, I thought you were, you were just jittery. Back to baseball. Back to baseball. You're pitching at ASU. That's some serious baseball. Yeah. How many people? I guess it was. How many people in the stands? How many people in the stands? When I played on the team anywhere from 1500 for like a non-league early season game to three to five thousand for an average pack 10 game and then over like then like five to eight thousand for big games. Okay. Now you had not done stand-up comedy yet. No. You're pitching. Yes. Audience is watching your every move. Yes. Are you paying attention to the crowd? Not really, to be honest with you.  I would pitch in, you know, thousand people a couple of times more than that. I know, I mean, you can hear them, but I'm not zoning in on one person saying something. I'm trying to do the best job of pitching, but I think with anything, it takes me a little while to get comfortable. And I didn't have that kind of leash in college. So feel like you got to get used to that stuff. It takes a little while to get used to it. And I was just scratching and I had a scratch and claw all the time for baseball just to be on the team. Whereas comedy kind of comes easy. It's kind of a natural thing. The only thing, you know, for now, I was a good competitor, but I'm going to say what I want.  I want my questions answered. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I love what was the question again. First of all, I love you and thank you for doing this. And so you're, you haven't done stand up, but you're funny, right? I think I'm funny. People tell me I'm funny. Yes, you're on the map. You're on the mound. Your ears are not tilting towards the audience in any way. It's not even an audience, right? The times I pitched in front of a crowd over a thousand people or 1500 people, no, baseball wise or even comedy wise, no, I could do that. It's not a larger crowd. Maybe I would feel the difference. So when I watch a major league pitcher, he's not paying attention to the audience. He doesn't. He might at first, they talk about spring training is, okay, everyone's good here. Then when you go to the major league games, the stadiums are bigger. There's extra, you know, you have three decks of stands, four decks. And some guys, that kind of could freak them out. They all talk about in spring training. Oh, he's doing great. Let's see how they play when they've got three decks in there. So that is a real hurdle for guys to get over. And there's some guys who I feel I'd be in that boat who you bring them up. And maybe they're not ready for it. They're kind of, yeah, the lime light gets to them. All eyes on them. They go back down. It's just something we're getting comfortable.  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, so it is like the club comic who gets the tonight show. Same. I mean, you're getting your reps and it's reps. And if you're not, the college is very cutthroat, but in major leagues, you have minor leagues.  And I feel like with stand up, they say it's, you know, take seven, eight years to find your voice. And you've got to get those 10,000 hours in with anything to be an expert. But if you're in college, a competitive team, and you're not getting those opportunities as much, you know, I felt like, like I said, a short leash, but I learned so much about life and in baseball through my playing my baseball. Statistically speaking in baseball, is there such a thing as the home field advantage? I think the guys look at me, where I took the leak. Maybe that's a neighbor. Maybe that's his territory. Maybe he pees there. And now you're gonna have to fight him for that territory. This is this is very, this is going to be good. Can you take him? He's an older guy, but he had a power tool with him. And by the sound of your urination, you have a power tool as well, my friend. Hello. Yeah, I don't know why all this was coming. I don't know where all the the P was coming from. Well, you were at Starbucks. Yeah, but this is too, too much of an early morning urination. It could have been from me. I went to Dunkin Donuts yesterday. Maybe that was still on my system. But it felt great.  Let me tell you something, my friend. And I know I speak for my entire male audience. When you were done pinging, we all shared a communal tingle. We all just had this little shiver together when you were done. That's how that's how great that that P was. Yeah, it was a good one. So statistically speaking, is there a home field advantage? Can they prove numerically statistically that teams win when they're playing in front of their home team, home crowd? I think so. And that's about there. There's a result of positive energy, but there's, yes, they do play better in front of the home crowd. Is that because of the positive energy from, I'm going to say the audience, or is it because every baseball stadium is different and they understand the nooks and crannies of their home stadium? There's, I think there's a little bit of that. Yes, the nooks and crannies, the familiarity, the routine, but I also feel like, yeah, you know, cheering on support does matter. You know, fans matter. There's people, you know, anti sports types who don't think that matters. I do. You think fans matter? You think having support of fans matter? Yes. Okay, I was in Chicago the night the Cubs won the World Series. It was insanity. It was insanity. I've never seen anything like that in my life. And I remember thinking, if fans matter, then why haven't the Cubs won every year? Because nobody loves the Cubs. I think Cubs fans are the most loving, maybe too forgiving. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe they, okay. No, when I say fans matter, I'm, I'm, I'm not saying like necessarily in a good way. They can pick up on nervous energy. I'll, I'll, you could look at the Boston Red Sox, maybe how, when they, they won for the first time back in 2004, but I'll talk about the Cubs since I'm close to that situation since the friend I grew up with is a coach with the Cubs. But answer my, answer my question. Answer my question. Here's my question. Here's my question. I'll tell, I'll answer it. Here's my question because I, because I am not knowledgeable about this stuff. Would you say after listening to you, I'm beginning to, when you say fans matter, I have, yeah, I've scolded, looked at people with scorn when they said, we did it. We did. And I go, you didn't do anything. You drank a beer. But did they do it? Can a fan lay claim to a World Series victory? Talking to you, I'm beginning to understand that maybe they can. Maybe they can love a team so much and support it so much and put out so much positive energy and support that it puts the team over the finish line. Is that what you're saying? I am saying yes. I'm saying yes. But I'm also saying that is not the end all be all. But I will say fans, supportive fans do help. But I can, I could explain the specific Chicago Cubs situations. Please do. Yes. Since I'm close to it. Yes. The Cubs, and I witnessed it. The Cub fans are very nice. They're friendly. They're Midwest friendly. And they, I was at the World Series. I went to one of the games. Now, here's the other thing. I was with the Yankees. I was around the Yankees for 12 years. I was around Yankee Stadium. I was around Yankee fans. I was around Northeast baseball. It's intense. It's real. It's life or death. And look at the Yankees, 27 World Championships when my good friend was one of the coaches there for World Series rings. So I saw the result of passion, smarts, and beliefs. And you know what it's New York. It's like, if you can't make it here, you can't make it anywhere. But that's negative. You could make it. But isn't that negative energy? Billy Martin? That was a Reggie Jackson. That's before. I'm not talking, but I'm talking. They were winning, but they were winning with negative energy. They did. Yes, they did win with negative, and that may have been that, and that was the time. Maybe that time in baseball, negative energy, that was before all the mental stuff started coming to play. But you make a good point. David, you make a good point. They won with negative energy. But look what happened in New York. It was in shambles after that. The Bronx is burning. The Bronx is burning. Yeah. They used the energy of the city. They did, and they squeezed everything out of it. And then after that, Times Square was, the 80s in New York, it was a dangerous time from what I gathered. I don't know. The Yankees were, I mean, they've done stories on how the Yankees in that time. That was the summer of Sam and all that stuff going on. 77. Well, let me, I want to get back to the Cubs and I'm interrupting you about something I know nothing about. You're saying positive energy. I'm saying positive energy. Okay, let me. My positive energy. Okay, let me ask you a question. I'm going to have the chef Jeremiah Tower on the show next week. You and I have no idea who he is, but he created the modern food movement, Shea Penise Stars. And the genius of Jeremiah Tower is to use local food. He says, if you live in West Virginia, you use the local ingredients because West Virginia has a smell and a taste, and you want to feed people the smells and the taste of West Virginia. So you have to use the grass-fed cows and the spices because that's West Virginia. You'd be foolish to try to create French cuisine in West Virginia, create West Virginia cuisine, use that energy. And when you bring up the Yankees using negative energy, does a team win? Did Chicago win? Do you win the World Series because you're using the homegrown energy? Does a team win not just with positive energy, but by reflecting and living off, thriving off the energy of that town? Because we just said in 77, the Bronx was burning, New York was falling apart. Did Billy Martin, did Reggie Jackson, did George Steinbrenner succeed by tapping in to the horror show of New York City? I would say yes, definitely. Now that, I mean, and again, that might have been the end of that, that time. You know, it was the end of the 70s. We were coming into the 80s, and I think the 80s was all, you know, that it started being more health-conscious. Jogging came into play and Sunshine and MTV, you know, I was, yes, negative, but that's another, the world is so negative now that you have to be positive. That's the way I look at it. Go back to Chicago. Tell me about Chicago. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to explain to Chicago for you. Chicago's positive energy. They're nice people, okay? Being nice doesn't win baseball games. Bringing energy doesn't guarantee wins. Bringing energy is great, but you have to have baseball. You have to have smart baseball minds. So the manager of the Cubs is a positive energy guy. He's positive energy towards his players. He's a manager. He manages people. Joe Madden, the manager of the Cubs, he comes from Arizona, that area, coaching, and he knows all about this positive energy. So then you have coaches. Now the coaches, they don't have to tap into positive energy. They tap into mechanics. They tap into researching strategy. They tap into doing the computer work, all that stuff. Yeah, it helps if you're positive. That's what the manager does, but it's nice to have a pitching coach or maybe another coach on the staff who is that positive. They have a good cop-bad cop relationship. Now with the Cubs, I went to the World Series, one of the games. The Cubs, it was like Game 4. The Cubs were leading in the first inning. They had a home run. Everyone's going nuts. The second inning, the Cleveland Indians, they tied it and then they took the lead. The whole stadium went quiet. It's like they panicked. The energy left. Nervous energy, not even energy, just kind of nervous energy, but just nerves took over the stadium. Now, because Joe Madden is a positive energy guy, he protects his team from that nervous Nellie energy. Then you've got coaches who have a blue collar work ethic. They don't give an F about the fans. I mean, they like them. Don't get me wrong. They like the fans, but their main job, if you're a great coach, and that's where my friend comes into play, he was a winner. It dates back to Joe Torrey. It dates back to Little League winning. He's a winning guy. And then when you apply that with a positive energy guy, and then you take a blue collar raised in the 80s Valley guy, that's what it took to get the Cubs over the top. I'm telling you, I was there and they won in spite of the nervous energy that the Cub fans were bringing. I witnessed it. So the Cubs are positive amongst themselves, and that comes from the coach, the manager. Then you've got the guys who are actually right there. The general manager doesn't have to be positive. He's there to do his job and put the best coaches in the position to win. The manager, he's the positive energy guy. He's touching the players every day. He's around them. So he's positive, but you've got to have some guys who are just no baseball, old school, and they don't give an F about fan experience. And that's what it takes to be a winner. Still have fun, but it's about winning. If you win, your life is better. Everybody's happier. It creates memories. I saw it. You saw what happened in Chicago. Winning created all those memories for people. So when people say sports are bad or it's not about winning, winning did matter because look what it did to those families in Chicago. And it took a blue collar guy from the Valley who was my teammate in Little League to get the Cubs a championship. His work ethic, my positive energy brought Chicago and the Cubs their champions. My last question about baseball, and then we'll wrap it up. We're having Jeremiah. I know I was stretching, by the way, but go ahead. I was stretching physically stretching physically. I'm on the curb right now and doing calf raises. But I truly believe when you talk, honestly, I'm not saying I I hung out with the Cubs. I was in the parade. I was around them. They need an energy guy. Every team has psychologists. They have mental skills coach. It's a real thing. Wow. Wow. I go to a baseball, you know, I go to a baseball game. And I'm relaxed. It's joyous. I beat myself up for not going to more baseball games. And I say, What's wrong with me? Why? Why can't I relax? Yada, yada, yada, yada. You go to a baseball game. Now, last week, I saw this documentary, the last magnificent, it's about Jeremiah Tower. We're going to have him on the show. He revolutionized American cuisine. I hung on every frame. What's up? Good. Got recognized or something. Yeah, officer. That's the guy who pissed on my wall. I don't know. I think they said the guy from the hangover. Oh, wow. Well, okay, so I hung on every frame of that movie.  I'm watching this. I'm hanging on every millisecond of this documentary. You go to the World Series. Brody Stevens goes to the World Series in Chicago. Are you hanging on every second of that game?  I should be. But, um, yeah, of course, I want the Cubs to win. I feel like. No, no, what I'm saying is, I don't know what I'm saying is, is there so much to watch? Because you know so much about the game that your, your mind is just isolating moments and players and anticipation and strategy. Is that what's going on when you sit in the stands and watch a baseball game? You're looking at it far differently than I am, right? Is it possible that you don't want anybody talking to you that you're, that you can be totally immersed in a game without your mind ever wandering? You know how gamblers, people gamble because they're totally in the moment and focused on one specific thing. When you go to a baseball game, can you be completely focused on the game? Well, my yes and no. I like the culture of baseball.   I like sometimes the game operations, they're fun, but in terms of like strategy, that sort of thing, it was never my, I'm not in really into strategy. I like the culture of baseball. I like being around it. I don't love sitting in the stands and I like, I like the pregame. I like being around that. I mean, I'll watch a game on, it's always background information for its background noise. But I'm talking about this part of my, okay, hang on for one second. Okay, yeah. Okay. I could have said, I could have answered that. But that's all right. I'm a rude, I might, I might be rude. I'm just curious.  If I'm watching a movie that I'm into, there's nothing you can say. The house is on fire. I don't care. I want to see this movie. Total absolute focus. If I'm doing stand up or talking to you right now, I am totally focused on Brody Stevens right now to the exclusion of everything else in my life. It's a great escape for me. Is baseball doing that for you? Is, is baseball complete focus on a game? The way you know, okay. No, I like, I like the culture of baseball, the game itself, the strategy. I appreciate it, but I'm not locked in on everything. I'm more locked in. Yes. If I'm playing the game, pitching or doing comedy, I can't have those distractions, but sitting in a crowd going to a game, I could talk, I'm relaxed, but I also, it's kind of cool knowing that I know these guys. I'm around them, but I've been to so, here's the other thing. I've been to so many baseball games over the year. You could take a year off from baseball. It will always be there. For me being around, it's not that relaxing. I'm not relaxed around baseball. So it's hard for me actually to, you know, sometimes you've got to take a break. I, sometimes I want to be a fan and just buy a ticket. And the other times I can call down and maybe get a ticket or get a pass, but that's stressful. Being around baseball at the major league level is kind of stressful because you have to behave a certain way. And I'm not getting paid by these guys. I'm not working for the baseball team. So the more you're around them and the more comfortable you are, then you start saying like, well, I'm not getting paid. I like being around it. Right. I got to, that's why I've been trying to work in a job of trying to try to tie in comedy and baseball for me. I want to get back to, I want to get back to baseball one second. If you go to a boxing match, you're hanging on every, you're hanging on every moment. If say Sandy Kofax goes to a baseball game, can he be completely focused on the game to the exclusion of anything else? Could you, if you really wanted to, go to a baseball game or watch a baseball game on television and block out the world? Because I know you can do that with boxing. I could. Yes, I could. A playoff game. Yes. Yes, I can for a playoff game or a no hitter, something like that, but a regular, you know, a game like today, am I going to be locked in on every pitch? No. But if you were gambling on it? That would be different. Yeah. Yeah, if you're gambling on it, you probably locked in. Luckily, I don't have that gambling. Right. Gene, but for me, baseball is, it's a lifestyle. I like the culture. I'm not totally, like I said, into strategy. I just like, I like what baseball teaches. I like that. I like that there's little league. I like that it's a respect tradition. So I think it's, I feel like I go to games. It's kind of like I'm doing my part. I feel like if you're, you live in this country, you should be mandatory to go to like two baseball games a year. Just so you see how how everything is, you appreciate things, appreciate the weather, appreciate athletics, appreciate the workers. I don't know everything. I just feel like baseball is something we should keep. Even though it's a little that could be boring, but when you're pitching, it's not boring. That's a thing. You're around the action. Oh, I, when Jeff Garland said to me, baseball is a gift from God, it is truly the American sport because it teaches you that we're all in this together. We're competing, but we're all in this together. We're competing against another team. You have to learn to wait your turn. You'll get your turn to shine. You'll also get your turn to chip in on the defense in order to protect each other. We all have to assist one another. But if you work hard enough, you'll get your turn to shine. But in the end, it's the team that wins. We've lost that spirit in America. That's why baseball is becoming less and less popular because the, the morality of baseball has escaped us. I agree. I think baseball is kind of bouncing back. I think now that the athletes, there's so much, these kids are better than you watched them play. They're fast. They're faster than the game now. So it's like arena baseball, whereas before you'd see the players, there was like, you know, you're like your dad out there. That's what the culture was. Now these kids are, they're, they're like basketball players. They're CrossFit guys. So you're seeing young kids playing and baseball is making a real effort, a real push to get, you know, different communities involved. And I think baseball is trending up. And I also just, it's got a great app on the, uh, you know, the app is popular, but they're not, they're not going after people of the baseball app. But I just feel that is, is long, you know, football with the injuries and then basketball, you know, basketball is still popular, but that's a definitely got to be physical and that baseball is a one sport. You can still be a small, tiny guy and, uh, be successful. We've been talking with Brodie Stevens. His new podcast is called Festival of Friendship. I don't want to say it's new, but it's, you had one before, right? Well, it's the same one. I just don't do it consistently enough. The Festival of Friendship on the Ferrell Audio Network. I've done about 90 episodes. So everybody should download that. And you have a comedy, download it. You have a comedy special coming out on CISO later in this year, right? Yes, I do. We shot a one hour special at the comedy store, a late night conceptual piece showing what happens when you're the last guy at the comedy store. How do you deal with that? People tired, people having to go pay for babysitters, avoid parking tickets.  Come back here. Right. I'm going to read this funny tweet to you. Right. And you're always at the comedy store. How's Adam doing? Adam Egett's doing great.  Yeah. David? Yes, sir. Adam Egett, right? He runs the comedy store. Yeah. Adam Egett grew up with me. Adam Egett was a camper at the Joe Torrey baseball camp. Adam Egett grew up. His family grew up with the family of the coach of the, for the Chicago Cubs, Mike Borzello. So the same guy who taught me about winning as a kid in the late 70s, early 80s helped raise the man today that turned the comedy store around. Yes. That's where baseball and comedy are intertwined. The guy who runs the comedy store was the same kid who I taught how to throw a baseball. And now he runs the comedy store. And it's all positive energy. All positive energy. He, right? I mean, honestly, a lot of it. Yes. Yeah. Like I'm, Adam grew up in the valley. People picked on the valley in the 80s. Valley girl, karate kid. So we had a sense of pride in the valley. And Adam is part of that last generation, that last connection to the 80s generation of the valley. And look at me, a one hour special. I'm David Feldman podcast. I've got my own podcast. Adam turned around the comedy store. So there is something to that. Oh my God. Yes.  No, no, no. I was, I, Adam, I, you know, I've been living in New York for a couple of years and I went back and went to the comedy store and he's running it. And all of a sudden I'm going, what happened to the ghosts of the dead gangsters when this place was Syros? Adam purified it, right? Yeah. Adam's energy. Adam's late 80s San Fernando Valley blue collar work ethic energy. Turned the comedy store around. I've been there since 2000. I wrote it out.  Right. And, uh, if you want a great place to be, if you want to learn more about Adam, read Norm MacDonald's book and go watch the Norm MacDonald podcast on YouTube. And Adam is his sidekick and he's hysterical. Brody Stevens. Yeah, Adam's good. Brody Stevens, I love you. I really would love you to come back and teach me about baseball. I want to be a better human being. And I want to learn how to have a baseball game going on all the time in the background. I remember Groucho Marx before he died waxing poetic about Vince Scully. I remember he said, there are very few women in my life who I love. There are very few people I can trust. I guess the only person I really, really worry about is Vince Scully. He said, without Vince Scully, this is what Groucho said. He said, if I don't, if I were to lose Vince Scully, my life would be over. And I've always felt as a comedian and as a human being, there's something lacking in me for not being able to appreciate baseball on a much deeper level. And I thank you for taking time to explain baseball to me and I love you to come back. Thank you. Are you getting emotional, David? No, but this was a great episode. This is exactly the way I wanted it to go. I wanted to talk to you about baseball and I got exactly what I wanted from you, so I thank you. Awesome. Yeah, I had a good time. It was longer than three minutes and that's okay. And you made history on the show. You made history. You made it. Nobody has ever urinated on my show. Yeah. I've made people throw up. Yeah. I've made people sick to their stomach, but I've never, we've never had somebody urinate on the show. That's pretty good. It was real. What are you going to do today, sir? What's your, what are your plans? I have therapy at five o'clock above the hamburger, hamlet, and van eyes. What else? I'm calling in my avails to the comedy store. That's all I could do, West. I already showered. I was in Arizona over the weekend, so it's my first day back, but probably do some, we're still editing some things. I'll do some push-ups, apple cider vinegar. And you're doing, I'm feeling good. I feel, I'd go ahead.  Yes, exactly. There's a new festival. It's in Iowa. It's on Memorial Day, I believe. So later on this month, I need to get my plane tickets. I need to get that settled, and then maybe another festival. I love festivals. The summer, I love doing comedy outdoors. I really do. Daytime outdoors. That goes against everything I believe. How can you do in shorts? How can you do comedy outside in the sun? That doesn't make any sense. I know it doesn't, but I was able to do it and you, if you were on the show, you would have a good time and you would get laughs also. Not that you don't, but I could get you having a great time outdoors in shorts in the middle of the summer getting laughs. The positive energy. Yeah. I have to say being in Iowa on Memorial Day, that to me is as American as it gets. Yeah. And guess what? The field of dreams field in the corn is near where this festival is, so I'm going to go check out the field of dreams. When you say from the movie, but that's not a true story. That's from the movie, right? Right. It's the movie, but it's there. The field of dreams is there. And I actually did on my TV show, enjoy it on Comedy Central. I did a whole thing based off field of dreams where I was in Fenway Park in Boston and that's where I was taping my half-hour special. It was a symbolic transfer from my, I was putting down my baseball glove and picking up the microphone. And that happened at, I did that at Fenway Park and I sat in the stands and I kind of recreated that scene from field of dreams.  This is a religious, you're going to be my father, confessor, my umpire, my manager. I have to change as a human being. I saw a field of dreams. I'm so ashamed.  I saw field of dreams in San Francisco and there was a morbidly obese woman sitting behind me weeping throughout the movie. And I was infuriated because I was with my friend and I was going, she has no right to be weeping. She's morbidly obese. What does she know about sports running and hitting? What, what, what sense, why is she crying? Is it because it's a corn field and she, it was, corn was cut down to make way for a baseball field? Is that why she's crying for the lost corn syrup that she's not ingesting? And she's just weeping throughout the entire movie. And finally, I, I complained to the usher.  She has no right to be here. That's not true. I didn't really say that to the usher, but I wanted to. Yeah. I switched seats. The truth is, I was with a friend and I felt that she was crying about the corn fields and not this beautiful moment between a father and the son and, and I switched seats and the movie was ruined for me. And whenever it comes on and I try to rewatch it, I think of this morbidly obese woman crying and I get angry again, because crying is just as bad as talking during a movie. Would it help you to know that maybe she was wheezing? Thank you. Thank you Brody Stevens. You got it David. Thank you.