Ladies and gentlemen, it's my very great pleasure as Dean of the Auckland Law School to welcome you to the 2017 Law Student Awards. This evening, we'll celebrate our best and our brightest, our students who have excelled over the past 12 months. We'll recognise our student leaders, we'll congratulate the students who have won our competitions and have represented the Auckland Law School nationally and internationally. We will mark the achievements of our students who have won prizes and scholarships. What they all have in common is hard work, commitment, perseverance, interest and enthusiasm for the law. I'd like to welcome all the students here tonight who are receiving awards. You've done well and the members of the faculty here tonight join me in congratulating you on your achievements. I'd like to welcome family members and close friends of our students who are able to be here this evening. Our students wouldn't have achieved their success without your support, your encouragement and your love. You can be very proud of all they've achieved and in knowing that you've helped make their success possible. I'd like to welcome many of the individuals and representatives of firms and organisations who have donated prizes and scholarships for our best students, who have supported our student societies and the events and competitions they organise and who have given financial assistance to the law school and to what we seek to achieve. We are immensely grateful. Prizes, the scholarships and the donations you provide mean a lot to our students. They recognise their hard work, the hours spent in libraries, late before exams, seeking to master particular cases, legal principles and whole areas of the law. This is a very successful law school nationally and internationally. We're very proud of our students and we're very grateful for the support that many of you here tonight have given us. I'd like to welcome the members of the legal profession and the judiciary who are also here tonight. We're very grateful for the support you also provide to us, not only in financial terms but also by helping and mentoring our students, adjudicating moots and competitions and supporting student and faculty activities. The format of tonight's awards ceremony is that the awards will be presented in groups, so I will invite the groups in the order that they are in the programme on your tables. I'll invite each group to come forward and together here on the left-hand side of the stage. You can gather in the order that you are mentioned in the programme. When I call your name, if you then come forward to the stage, the steps are just here.  I suppose that's the moment at which audience members can congratulate you as you come forward. But once you have received your certificate, you could then move to the other side of the stage because at the end of each group presentation, there will be a brief moment when we will take a photograph of the group as a whole and that I suppose will be another chance just to congratulate that particular set of students for what they have achieved. So I'm sure we'll all get the hang of it once the first group of students start the process. I'd invite at this point those who are mentioned as student leaders in the programme if you could come forward and in the order of the programme assemble just here to my right or to the left of the stage. And as they are doing so, so if they could come forward now, as they are doing so, I'll just mention the organisations, the student societies that they represent. The Auckland University Law Student Society is one of the most active and successful student societies in the country. It organises a wide range of competitions, seminars, workshops, sports and social events for the students. Tarakau Turi is our society which provides support and community for our Māori law students. So it's very important for our new Māori law students to feel welcome and feel that there are senior students they can talk to and be mentored by. And one example of this is the annual hauranga that our Māori law students organise to go and speak at schools and rural areas of New Zealand about the merits of coming to university and studying law. The Pacific Island Law Students Association similarly provides community and support for Pacific Island students and just recently has had their first event for the year where over 70 of their members are took part in their start of year camp. Rainbow Law is the society established to provide community and support for our lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students. The Equal Justice Project over many years has involved hundreds of our students in providing free legal assistance for people and organisations who would not otherwise receive access to the law in partnership with community groups and the legal profession. The Auckland University Law Review is an entirely student run, high quality legal journal and that involves the editors and chief are responsible for ensuring that a very large team of students do all the reading, editing and publishing of that journal to a very high standard. The Law Review, not to be mentioned with the Auckland University Law Review, the Law Review involves a large number of students taking to the stage each year to sing, dance, satire and otherwise lampoon various aspects of the law and the legal profession. I think one year recently one of their video clips received I think about five million downloads, somewhat more probably impact in terms of people seeing what they did than many of the articles that our academics publish. The Mootin Society was established several years ago to promote and advance mooting competitions and learning about mooting in the law school and has over 700 members so very many of our students take part in their activities and we'll see later the successes that have been achieved in many ways partly as a result. Could we first thank and congratulate this year's student president, Rai Sinan. The Educational Vice-Presidents, firstly, Liddy Buckley and Liddy, by the look of it, can't be with us or has gone to the wrong venue. Linda Lim, both of them, well at least hopefully they are together doing something to advance the cause of education in the law school. The Taraka Turi Koutumawaki, if we first could thank two, there are two co-presidents of Taraka Turi, Marri Law Students Association, Alex Greaves and also Kimberly Murray. This is proving a distressing feature of our student leaders. They're so busy working on student causes, they forgot to give their apologies but we shall punish them later. If we come on to the Pacific Island Law Students Association we have co-president Robin Lissatelli. This is a bit like an Oscar's gone dramatically wrong but hopefully we won't present the wrong awards to anyone. So, with a certain measure of hope in my voice, I will call upon Rainbow Law Directors Alex Cranston and John Kingey, Equal Justice Project Director, Jade McGrath, Law Review Editor, Kayleigh Ansell and the Singing and Dancing Law Review. We have Directors Tom Blackwell, Paige Coulter and Robbie Hines and Mooting Society President, James Penn. You'll see that the photographs after each group give you the opportunity, a subtle opportunity to replenish the food and drink or at least about take of more of the food and drink in front of you. We now come to the competition winners and representatives and I'd ask if the winners of the Auckland Law School competitions would come up to the stage. So that's everyone who has won a Law School competition but not including the international competition representatives who will be the next groups, up until the Ministry of Justice Sentencing Competition. And I suppose what these awards are doing is they are recognising the fact that every year we have very large numbers of our students compete in all sorts of competitions which help them learn and develop the sort of skills that will be really valuable as lawyers. So they take part in witness examination, negotiation, client interviewing and mooting competitions. I should mention that a moot is effectively a mock court case on a point of law so in some ways it's the closest experience to appearing in a court to argue a legal issue and that's why we have quite a number of mooting competitions in the Law School. I would like to thank the law firms who sponsor these competitions and support the costs of our sending the winners of them to represent the Law School in New Zealand and Australian competitions. First up, if we congratulate the winners of the Battle Findlay Senior Negotiation Competition. Firstly, Michael Greenup. I think you're up and on. And also, Hona Kerry. The Battle Findlay Junior Negotiation Competition winners, Seamus Barnett and Bryce Robertson. The winner of the Russell McVay Senior Client Interviewing Competition, James Penn. Winners of the Russell McVay Junior Client Interviewing Competition, Helen Anion Peters and Sam Brebner. Winner of the Minter Allison Rudd-Watt Witness Examination Competition, Antonio Bradley. Winners of the Brian Shinkan Family Law Memorial Moot. Firstly, Nicola Davies. And I think already on the stage but back for a second certificate, James Penn. And the winners of the Kali Thompson Kaisley Employment Law Moot, Darren Gunasakara and Anthony Camphorst. The winner of the Gina Ruddland Memorial Prize which is a competition on Maori legal issues for the top mooter in that competition, Cameron Jacob Sawyer. And the winners of the Pacific Lawyers Association Prize for the mooting competition on Pacific legal issues. Firstly, Jessica Matheson and also Grant Delisle. Winners of the Junior Mooting Competition, Michael Greatricks and Lisa Dick. And we established several years ago and the Mooting Society were instrumental in establishing this competition but we also had a lot of contributions particularly from the class of 1970 towards the John Hay QC Memorial Mooting Competition. This is for intermediate level mooting and the winner of that is Thomas Leggett. The winner of the Meredith Connell Greg Everard Memorial Prize for Mooting may already be on the stage, Michael Greenup. And the top competition for mooting, the most senior competition for mooting is the Stout Shield which is part of the Bell Gully New Zealand Senior Mooting Competition. The winner of that competition and also the Gary Davis Memorial Prize for the top mooter in the competition, Tia Nelson. The winners of the KPMG Case Competition Alexandra Finucane, Mika Hill-Smith, Charlie Ling and Bernard Valla. And finally in this set of awards, the winner of the sentencing competition run by the Ministry of Justice, Kyle Simonson. If I could ask the students who have represented the Auckland Law School and international competitions to assemble on the side of the stage and I know that some of them will have already been up because of having won Auckland Law School competitions but again obviously those who take the next step forward and get to represent Auckland or indeed in some cases New Zealand internationally have done incredibly well. The Auckland Law School again last year, our team that was selected on the basis of our mooting competitions to represent us in the New Zealand mooting competitions won that competition and I suppose it's worth noting that that was the ninth time in the last 10 years that Auckland has won the national mooting competition so I think it is a sign of the strength of our students and of our competitions programs. I'd like to acknowledge the help and assistance given by many practitioners, judges and mediators in judging and giving tips to our teams as they prefer to go and compete internationally. The first team I'd like to recognise is the Red Cross Asia-Pacific International Humanitarian Law Moot team. So this was a team that firstly had to compete against all of the other New Zealand law schools and won the Humanitarian Law Mooting Competition in New Zealand and then went to Hong Kong where that team competed against 23 other teams from around the Asia-Pacific region and going into at the end of the preliminary rounds were ranked second of the 24 teams competing they did extremely well they were ranked as having had the best prosecution memorial the memorial is the written application and they also one of the team members, Hannah Reid was ranked as the best speaker in the competition. So if we can congratulate our representatives in that our representatives in that competition firstly, Joey Gore Hannah Reid and the coach of the team, Trassa Dunworth and sometimes people say that mooting is overly dominated by men and it was great to see this result was achieved by an all-woman team the next team that took part was our team that represented Auckland in the Australia and New Zealand Air Law Moot Competition and aviation law has been a subject we've developed recently at Auckland with the support of Air New Zealand we've been absolutely superb to see how well some of our students have done in Air Law Moot competitions this year, or last year I should say they won the Australia, New Zealand Air Law Competition beating the University of Queensland in the final so if we could congratulate again I suppose a mainstay of that team Hannah Reid Kyle Simonson and the coaches Michael Greenup and Nick Porter and the other two competitions that were presented in recently and this was only about a month and a half ago we sent a team to actually I've got three more teams to mention but back in February we sent a team to the international Chamber of Commerce's international commercial mediation competition and this is an immense event it involves hundreds of mediators from around the world it involves 65 university teams in more than 30 countries and our team this year reached the semi-finals they were ranked third equal in the world and only just missed advancing to the final can we congratulate first Antonio Bradley Sam Brothers Caroline Coates and their coach Anna Leonard just a few weeks ago we had the team return from the Phillip Jessup International Law Moot competition this competition is held in Washington DC each year and is regarded as one of the most prestigious mooting competitions in the world there were around 630 competitors at the event in Washington and our team did impressively well they had taken part actually in a pre-mooting competition and this was held for a number of the teams that were going to be in Washington they won the European pre-moot competition held in Budapest at the Jessup competition in Washington they were placed second for the applicant memorials so that was out of all the teams that took part they were ranked second in the world for the quality of the applicant memorials they were ranked the best applicant team when you combine the applicant memorials and the speaker scores and one of the team members Michael Greenup was ranked the third best speaker in the world and another of the team members Andrew Grant was ranked the best speaker in the world at the Jessup competition so quite extraordinary and outstanding results if we congratulate all of the team members firstly Catherine Eichelbaum Michael Greenup Tia Nelson and the coaches Jack Davies and Greta Schumacher and as you can see I think there's really been superb results by our mooting competitors we also sent a team to the William Lewis commercial arbitration moot this is the largest mooting competition in the world it's held annually in Vienna had around 350 teams competing this year the team competed in a number of pre-mooting competitions and were first in the Paris pre-mooting competition and runners up in the Heidelberg competition I would like to particularly Bankside Chambers for sponsoring the teams participation and the support that Sir David Williams who's here present, one of our alumni who's been instrumental in Bankside Chambers support has given could we congratulate Honor Kerry Michael Schmoll and coach Tom Clark Tom works in a law firm so I dare say they haven't let him escape but again I think they've had such impressive results that if we again congratulate all of our international competition representatives of the new entrant prizes come to the left-hand side of the stage the winners of the new entrant prizes receive a $100 book token but perhaps more importantly they are recognised as among our very best school leavers who've joined the Auckland Law School these are very competitive awards awarded to students leaving school from throughout the country and I suppose it's worth noting that every year we have up to about 1500 students who take part who are enrolled in first year law but we only award 19 new entrant prizes and we're awarding a further 9 new entrant scholarship so as you can imagine to be one of the 19 singled out for one of these prizes means that we have high hopes of these students going forward if we first congratulate Nicholas Allen Rosalie Kettison Natasha Decreek Isabel Douglas Ayesha Gole Yannis Gonzales Ichan Leo Rebecca Lloyd Veronica Manning Jayden McNeill Siobhan Pike Achi Noan Simhoney Sophie Vreberg Sanchita Waas Selena Wright and with the winners of the next set of awards each receive a $1,000 scholarship and these are students who have had superb school results and again as I mentioned given that we have up to around 1500 first year law students that then drops to 380 students at second year law these really are incredibly high achieving students if we first congratulate Noreen Gakushin and Isabella Graham Danuki Karuna-Sakira Gabriela Penn Ella Steven Rene Jang and I think you can see that all of our top first year students given the gender make-up we would hope to see many more woman judges and law partners emerging as a result in a number of years before we start on the second half of the programme we always have a tradition at these ceremonies of introducing someone who's contributed a lot to the law school one of our notable alumni to say a few words about their experiences that may inspire some of the students today and I'm very pleased that we have one of our most prominent alumni able to do so today Rene Sachinand is a graduate of the Auckland Law School he worked as a lawyer he was appointed a district court judge he was the ombudsman of New Zealand for 10 years during which time he dealt with all manner of complaints difficulties that individual citizens experience and how they are treated by government departments and then as you'll all be aware became Governor-General of this country from 2006 to 2011 so Rene's career has been one of dedicated and committed public service we appointed him a distinguished fellow of the Auckland Law School and true to his character of humility, commitment and service he's been someone who hasn't just taken the title but has lived it who every month comes and spends time at the law school who will talk to some of our classes about the role of law with respect to government, administration who will take part in judging mooting competitions helping mentor for our equal justice project and in all sorts of ways is a wonderful presence around the Auckland Law School I would ask you to welcome this evening Rene Sachinand Dean Andrew Stockley thank you for your generously expressed welcome Deputy Dean Susan Watson faculty members present throughout the room distinguished guests including judges of many courts Law Society President newly elected Joanna Pigeon those who have presented and who will present for awards this evening and importantly your family members ladies and gentlemen kiora tena koutou katoa my contribution this evening in this narrow slot that the Dean spoke of is in two parts the first being the speech I spent some little time preparing of an orthodox contribution by a senior legal personality saying things that are expected on occasions such as this that speech noted the importance of this time closing off an important phase in your legal education it acknowledged the commitment of yourselves and your families seeing things through to this point the speech asked that you of course continue to keep the contact with your law school in the time ahead and it drew attention to the power of the network that you already have in which we have seen on the stage and the continuing availability of that if you choose to draw down on it. I would then have spoken about the value of the experiences at the university and the law school in particular and in the loyally skills one acquires to comprehend and hopefully solve some of the multi-layered issues that will confront you in our increasingly complex world. I was into writing what used to be called the peroration when I reflected on an aspect of my current reading of two books by a leading United States medical personality and by his name you'll see this person of Indian origin like myself Artul Gawande who has written being mortal and better and at least one or two other titles that you see in the better quality bookshops and the challenge that he presented recently to graduating medical students on the experience of his lifetime as a surgeon teacher and consultant I thought it might be better to frame the five pieces of advice that he gave to the medical students Mutatis Mutandis for lawyers on their journey law students on their journey and thus there is a second part of my contribution this evening the first item is ask an unscripted question a doctor and a lawyer in my view should never lose the ability to ask questions and should never lose the faculty of being inquisitive being inquisitive and continuing to ask questions can only lead to trouble in very limited circumstances like the senior New Zealand council appearing in the privy council in the late 1960s saying to one of the law lords do you follow me, my lord to which the answer came I follow your argument if that is what you mean Mr X the second item after ask an unscripted question is don't complain as lawyers and law students you have acquired skills to identify flaws and mistakes and ways in which these might be resolved instead of complaining it seems good advice to say to you to do something about securing redress beyond just complaining the third item is count something this being shorthand for law students and lawyers and people of a legal background to observe and record and in the event of seeing things occur and particularly if they recur then considering what action may be appropriate the fourth item of advice is to write something you acquire skills as students of the law and as lawyers in writing and legal writing the present time provides opportunities for people of a legal background to write formally in briefs and opinions in correspondence and pleadings but also and not unimportantly in journals and in blogs writing and documenting are essential legal skills and they benefit from continued polishing and improvement and tonight is an appropriate opportunity to underline that for everyone present the fifth and final thing is change the world in front of all of you who are receiving these awards this evening is one where you will come to apply your skills having received your award there will be an expectation and you will have the next step where you will apply your skills in a number of ways do not feel hidebound by the choices that you may have made to date may I be willing to back yourself and to make change resolutely if that is warranted so those are the things that I leave in the room with you ask don't complain count write and change in closing I would like to quote two people first the champion New Zealand motor racing driver the late Bruce McLaren who once said it would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability for life is measured in achievement not in years alone and then lastly the late Steve Jobs co-founder of Apple who died in 2011 after a lengthy illness and he once said your time is limited so don't waste it living someone else's life don't be trapped by dogma which is living the results of other people's thinking don't let the noise of others opinions drown out your own inner voice and most importantly have the courage to follow your heart and intuition they that is your heart and intuition somehow already know what you truly want to become everything else is secondary that seems to me at least to be a suitable note on which to end and to wish each of you well kia ora kia kaha thank you for your kind attention thank you Sir Anand with the winners and recipients of the undergraduate prizes and scholarships up until the Lexis Nexus Prize in Land Law would you come forward to the stage after first year law our students embark upon the core compulsory law subjects the major areas of law that involve lots of conceptual thinking contract, torts public law, crimes land equity they then go on to study courses and we're very proud that here at the Auckland Law School we offer the largest number of electives by some distance of any of the law schools in this country we have scholarships and subject prizes to recognise those who achieve excellence in the different courses that we have you'll note that quite a number of our subjects have prizes but equally we offer many more subjects so if there's anyone here who feels that they would like to contribute certainly we're willing to take to endow a more subject prizes as a result the first scholarship to recognise tonight is the A.G. Davis Scholarship in Law awarded to A.G. Davis Scholarship in Law awarded to A.G. Davis Scholarship in Law awarded to A.G. Davis Scholarship in Law and Information Technology Prize awarded to Shirley Shang the Brookfield Lawyers Scholarship for Academic Merit and All-Roundability and a student who has completed Part 2 Law awarded to Freddie Fall the Chapman Trip Scholarship for Iwi Governance awarded to Taha Rako Brown and to Olivia Rapata the David R. Mummery Memorial Scholarship in Law for Part 2 Students awarded to Isabel Kelly and to Candio the Davies Spraw Memorial Prize in Family Law awarded to Nicola Davies and to Paul Snade the Desmond Lewis Memorial Prize in International Law awarded to Tia Nelson and to Hannah Reid the Erica Pab Scholarship honours the life and vision of those who give back to the community and show commitment to justice for the weakest members of society this year it was awarded to Alan Ryan the Hermanga Taitai Prize for Academic Achievement and also the winner of the Thompson Reuters Medical Law Prize Matthew Tumoe the JP Campbell Prize for the best work in any two final year electives awarded to Samuel Johnston the Johnston Foundation Prizes the Helen Burnett really well done Helen, congratulations and I think already on the stage also awarded to Tia Nelson the Judge Avanish Deb Kato Memorial Prize in Criminal Procedure awarded to Helen Savage the Lexis Nexus Prize in Land Law awarded to Rebecca Scoggins and if I could ask the other winners of the undergraduate prizes and scholarships to come forward to the front the first of the awards is the Maritime Law Association of Australia and New Zealand Prize awarded to Augusta Wills the Martin Finlay Memorial Scholarship for a Part 3 student awarded to Jonathan Miliana the Meltzer Mason Prize in Company Liquidations awarded to Alexandra Rankin the Meredith Connell Prize in Corporate Finance Law awarded to Gemma Miletic the New Zealand Law Review Prizes are awards given for the best results in first-year law firstly Andrew Coffin John Gardin and Isabel Kelly the Resolution Institute Dispute Resolution Prize awarded to Catherine Kerr and also to Tinezi Anapia the Richmond Chambers Prize in Juris Prudence awarded firstly to Shu-jen Ryan Chow and also to Sebastian Hartley the Robertson Prize in Insurance Law awarded to Jack Alexander the Shortland Chambers Prize in Public Law awarded to Yanate the Simpson-Gress in Employment Law Prize awarded to Anthony Campus the Sir Alexander Johnston Scholarship and Law awarded already on the stage to Sebastian Hartley we have a new prize this year the Staples-Rodway Fill Banks Prize in Tax Law who was the tax manager at Staples-Rodway he passed away in August of 2015 and we're very pleased tonight to have with us members of his family including his wife Sandra his daughter Laura his brothers Steven Graham his niece Fiona and his partner Trish and we want to very much acknowledge the contribution that he made to Tax Law and to Staples-Rodway if we congratulate Tia Nelson the Thompson Reuters Criminal Law Prize awarded firstly to Alexia Grindel also to Madeleine Hay and to Julia Wiener the Thompson Reuters Prize for Civil Procedure awarded to Tracy Kelderman and the last of the Undergraduate Scholarships and Prizes the Thompson Reuters Prize for Torts and Contract awarded to James Rankin would the winners and recipients of the Postgraduate Prizes and Scholarships please come to the stage the Auckland Law School has the largest LLM programme in New Zealand, indeed we have as many master of law students as all of the other New Zealand law schools combined so in some ways I think it's a little bit of a pity apart from the fact we've prolonged the ceremony that we don't have more Postgraduate Prizes and Scholarships so anyone who would like to assist in this area you'll be very welcome our Postgraduate programme and we also know and for the fact that every year we bring in a range of overseas scholars who come and contribute and who teach on that programme so it's something that makes it we get a lot of overseas students who as a result also come and study on the programme the first of the awards is the Alan and Virginia Green Prize in Environmental Law that has been awarded to Kristen Jones the Fauld's Memorial Prize for the top master's student of law's Sarah Katani and the Moana Shvelga Memorial Pacifica Student Scholarship Patricia Fulcox and this one should be a little bit easier to focus on and would the winners of the Faculty of Law Dean's Academic Excellence Awards come to the stage, not the senior scholars at this stage but the winners of the Academic Excellence Awards these are awards that are given at the end of the undergraduate degree and they are awarded to the top 10% of the graduating class so given that we graduate just over 300 students a year for the LLB and the LLB Honours Degrees these students have obviously done incredibly well to be recognised as the top 10% of what is already a very high achieving cohort because as mentioned to get through even into second year law there's an enormous number far more students who don't get through into second year law than do and the winners of the Faculty of Law Dean's Academic Excellence Awards if we firstly congratulate Amir Ansari Harriet Birch Dion Shalingai Jerome De Vries Silwin Fraser Jasjeet Grewal Victoria Henderson Natalie Koch Amelia Lam Jayamung Rebecca Morris Jonathan Morton Augusta Wills and Lewis Whitcomb-Cahill and if the recipients of the senior scholar awards could come forward at this point these are students who have won Faculty of Law Dean's Academic Excellence Awards but in addition they have also won senior scholar awards and these are given across the university to the very best students in all faculties so in the case of law this meant that we were allocated seven senior scholarships to award to our graduating class of just over 300 so as you can imagine to be one of the seven scholars are singled out for one of these awards is an incredible achievement and one that requires consistent excellence across all subjects if we could first congratulate Jack Davies Dennis Dowle Samuel Johnston Abigail Lawson and Maxwell Smith and the final award of this evening is given to the top law undergraduate who wins the Auckland District Law Society's Prize which also means of course as a winner of the Faculty of Law Dean's Academic Excellence Award and also a senior scholar award would you congratulate this year's top student Linda Sullivan again on behalf of all the faculty can I congratulate all of the students here because as I said at the outset the leadership that they show for the students societies and for working for the community and well-being of students in all sorts of different ways in all sorts of clubs and societies for the different communities that make up this law school for the way in which many of our students have competed have taken part in many hours of preparation in many hours of practices for their competitions and then have excelled so incredibly well congratulated obviously those students who's academic work and whose commitment and perseverance and ability to understand aspects of the law again is reflected in the awards that they have received and in the recognition that we give to them tonight as our very best students and as people who will go forward I'm sure and will work in the law but will bring with them hopefully what they've gained from this law school is the hard work of application of working for all sectors of the community and in the very best way to live up to the traditions of this law school and the achievements of its alumni. I'd like to thank all of our alumni here tonight who support us through these awards but also through the mentoring through the practical assistance by judging Moots competitions by coming in and giving of their time and energy and passion in so many different ways as well as it's no coincidence that when you've seen that many of the coaches of our teams are in fact recent graduates who have benefited from the programs that we've run but have then come back have organised to put in the hours taking our teams forward but bringing in many of the older alumni whose work commitment means they can't put in much many of the same hours but can come back in with their experience and their expertise to offer assistance at that level so thank you all for the contributions you make and as I said at the start none of this would be possible without the family support the support of close friends that has nurtured and supported our students every step of the way I think there's still a little bit of wine or juice something to drink and eat you will have the opportunity if you want to photograph just with your family with a prize winner or one of the teams if you want to photograph together do get hold of the photographer and have a good evening


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Hello again. Today's question is, are there any downsides to doing a permaculture design course? Of course I will talk about all the benefits, which I would say there are many. I don't know about downsides so much, maybe things that you don't expect to happen. And so I probably should warn you about those. And the most obvious place to start is with money. Now, obviously permaculture courses probably going to cost you money to go on a course. Particularly if you do a residential course because that will involve accommodation and food and so on and those things you're paying for. But it's more what goes on after the course. It's not the course itself. It's what happens afterwards, the money you might spend as a result of doing the course. And perhaps one of the most obvious things for me at least was that I started buying a lot more books. So I did the course and I found myself fascinated by so many things and I really wanted to learn so much more. And so I spent quite a lot of money over the years on books and this is just a few of the books that I've bought since doing my permaculture course in 2004. Of course you might also want to do some more courses and there's all kinds of other things that you might spend money on as a result of doing the course and being inspired to do other things. Which then brings us on to the next thing which is time. Obviously the permaculture course itself is quite long. It's either a two-week residential or six-week ends and so that's quite a lot of time to take out of your life. But on top of that, like we were saying with the money, you're going to need more time to read the books that you buy, to watch the videos you want to do, to do all the learning, the extra learning that you get inspired to do as a result of doing the course.  And essentially what she means is that when you look at something you see it in a new way, you see the world in a new way. And this can be both fascinating and frustrating. So nature suddenly becomes even more interesting perhaps than before, depending on how interested you were in nature in the first place. So walks take a lot longer than they used to because you start to see things. You might become a gardener and of course when you learn to garden you start to see so much more. You become a much better observer of the world. But the other side of this is that you might experience a lot more dismay. Now as bad as it gets here is probably the shrub planted on top of the sewage pipe. So the roots might get in there and cause some damage at some point. And the lack of a wind break where the wind comes from. And so it's not too bad here but if you go out into the world you're likely to see lots of examples of things being done very badly. Those real face palm moments. What were they thinking? And that can be quite frustrating and even disheartening. And so you've got to be ready for that. But at the same time it's good we know how to do things better and hopefully we'll be doing a bit more of that. Which brings us to our next reason which is dissatisfaction. Now having done a permaculture course felt a little bit like this water tank which was all that was here when we arrived compared to what we have today in the sense that this felt like what I'd learnt before permaculture even though I'd learnt a lot. How much of it was very useful to me so I felt quite dissatisfied about that. And also I started looking at some of my friends thinking how much do we really have in common especially having met some like-minded people that often happens. When you go on a permaculture course you meet like-minded people and you think you start to re-evaluate these things. Jobs it's not unusual for somebody to decide to leave a job that they weren't particularly happy in after doing a PVC even sometimes their home or dare I say relationship. Which brings us on to the last thing which is change. Now a lot of people come on a permaculture course because they're ready for change in their lives but it doesn't mean that it's going to be an easy thing to do. This used to be an eight foot retaining wall here which divided the garden in two and by making that change by terracing this area it gave us a route through it's created so many more opportunities it was a lot of upheaval but in the end it was worth it. So if you're not really ready for change then maybe you shouldn't be doing a permaculture course but if you are then perhaps it's the very best thing you could do.


What they gon' do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town Tell me the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down Hey guys, we're in a new episode of Talk of the Town Today we have a special guest Yes, Mr. On The Radar Radio Mr. Step In Step Out Don't Get Stepped on Gay P We in the building You already know what it is Talk of the Town, Chloe I appreciate you for showing me love all these years too You know what I'm saying? All these years, hell yeah Right, it's been like three, four years now That we've known each other about But Talk of the Town is only 2019 So yeah, it's been... Yeah, and I still feel like... Cause you was movin' already When my show was startin' up Yeah, and I feel like we first kind of met Around like probably pandemic time Like 2020-ish Something like that, yeah Yup, and we stayed locked in When did you come from your drop?  Your drop Oh, like what I just did? Well the Step In Step Out thing It kinda came from The cypher that I did With Hoodfly Mike and ASAP Ills Cause I was like Cause I don't even know how I started this Like I'm a step out They gon' step in I think it just kinda came to me naturally When we started the freestyles Every freestyles Every time, yeah And then Hoodfly Mike did the Step In Step Out Don't get stepped on So that's why like when I do the drops Like a lot of times I'll be like Where's the Hoodfly Mike You know what I'm saying Cause Hoodfly Mike kinda came up with the Don't get stepped on part And then in the background of that cypher Which is such a dope cypher Super underrated You hear like ASAP Ills be like Don't get fucking stepped on And like, so that kinda just stuck And I kinda incorporated that into like The drop that I do in interviews And just like my radio drops But yeah, that's kinda like how it started I really, there's really no magic sauce On how I ever came up with it Rob may remember it better than me But I kinda just like I just started it one day I think it evolved over time Cause I don't think it always I don't think it started off as Step In Step Out Don't get stepped on I'ma step out They gon' step in It kinda started with some other stuff too But it just kinda evolved into that I don't really remember who Who, who, who I don't remember the first video That I started it where it was just that It evolved over time into that So you had to get it down pat Yeah Alright, so we gon' play a little game I mentioned questions Okay, let's go Rapid fire Okay, most used emoji Oh, definitely the laughing emoji Like the crying with the two things The crying with the two, yeah People take that like People be like When I use the crying one People be like Oh, like, are you, no That's like my, that's I use that a little bit Because I think that It's funny as shit I don't like using the other ones I'm weird like that Okay, what sound do you listen to For motivation Oh, what sound do I listen to For motivation, man That's a good one Like, yeah It's a morning, got a long day About to get in the car What you about to throw on What's the locks You ain't really about shit You ain't really about shit about who The locks and DMX Okay, okay, okay Alright, what's a conspiracy Theory you think is real Oh, that aliens walk among us I did actually just talking about this The other day I know it sounds crazy But I really was talking about this The other day with somebody I'm like, bro, if If the government confirmed That aliens exist, right One, why would they do that? And two is like How far could they really be How far could they really be And if they're coming here All this often And like there's bodies of aliens That the government has recovered Then like you telling me that Like they ain't trying to come back For they get back Or they ain't trying to Or like there aren't more of them Just walking around So that's one Or I don't know if It's a conspiracy theory But I definitely believe in Bigfoot Bigfoot? Yeah Okay, okay, okay What's the best thing about your hometown? Man, the diversity of it Like I feel like where I grew up Because I grew up in two places Like I grew up in Queens And I grew up in LA But the one thing I like about both Is the fact that I was always around Multiple cultures You know what I'm saying So I never was just like Like my neighbors were Jamaican Haitian, Dominican, Puerto Rican Indian, Asian And I think what was so cool about that Was that through that I was able to expose myself to a lot Yeah, and I was able to grow As a person and understand Other people's cultures Which I know oftentimes is like Where people grow up Sometimes we're only exposed To one thing or one culture And then we're not really always Able to understand other people As we get older Because we weren't growing up We didn't grow up with them So I think that's something really beautiful That I got to be around Growing up in New York Okay, last thing you spent money on? Oh man, what I spent money on Oh, the last thing I spent money on Was Papas after My birthday party the other night When I got back to the telly Me and my home girl from Florida She came to visit Because she's my best friend from high school We got back to the telly And I'm like, yo, I'm hungry It was like 5 a.m.  Uh, Instagram I feel like that's what I use the most And the last one Celebrity Crush Ooh, that's a good one See, like everybody always says Ruby Rose I don't even really want to I don't even really want to I don't even want to say I don't want to shoot my shot no more Y'all got it Yeah, y'all got it Has Ruby Rose done the honorita? No, but like I actually like Before I say like a celebrity crush Like all jokes aside Like I really love Ruby Rose As like an artist And I feel like she just doesn't drop enough Right But I would love I heard that she might be getting ready to drop some So I would love For Ruby Rose For Ruby Rose to come do it on the radar All jokes aside Oh, Celebrity Crush definitely got me SZA Okay, okay I love me an R&B nature girlie That's my favorite Okay So how did you get started In the anger field you feel like? Well, my story is interesting Because I actually I started off at St. John's University In 2014 I started off as a business major Funny enough But then Within like a couple weeks of school Like I tell the story a lot Like I was taking a calculus class And I'm like I suck at this But I found the radio station On campus that first month And I had a radio show Within my first three weeks there So I was like Oh, wow And I like where I grew up The community at the radio station Was multicultural A lot of different people there But like It kind of reminded me Of what I grew up around So I was like I'm going to join this radio station So I started at the radio station And then I ended up Changing my major to communications And then everything just kind of Went from there Like when I was a sophomore Spring semester Angie Martinez came to the Radio station to do her book tour And then that's where she met Myself and Nyla And then ever since then I've been at Power 105 Since I was 19 And me and Nyla You guys kind of Started our journey together Because that seemed tight Yeah, me and Nyla Like we went to school together Obviously we both went to St. John's We didn't ever have like A radio show together At school But we had done like Cross over On other people's Exactly And we You know she did her own interviews On her shows I did my own interviews on my shows But you know when they're like Oh like you know Who do you want to do The interview with you With Angie I was like Obviously Nyla You know so Me and her did that together And it's just been cool Because we both Have like the same trajectory In our career But we've both come up At the same time And it's just some cool St. John's shit at the end Of the day too That we're able to do this Together too So you helped you In a sense get this opportunity Or do you feel like Schools where you learned everything And you kind of outsourced from there I feel like school like One thing I tell people About going to school is like I say I tell people to go to school Like not only Like cause gay again In education is important But sometimes like You know certain The network Yeah you network Like certain schools provide Better education than they do Networking Certain schools provide Better networking than they do Education I feel like St. John's Would provide a better networking Than education I don't even use to this day But they did Connect you with a lot of people A lot of incredible people Obviously Angie And I took some classes Like Photoshop and things like that That were able to help me You know even do what I do now So yeah so I would say like I would say like St. John's Really did help me with the networking Cause like I said I got that I met Angie through it And I met Nyla through it And Ramel who works I'm a public diamond Who works at Z100 So we kind of built this Like tight knit bond Of like a St. John's community Within the music industry And we're all still friends Now to this day Type shit Yeah That seemed pretty locked in Did you finish college though? Yeah I finished college Yeah I graduated in 2018 Damn so you was in school At working on the radar Anyone working at the radar? No so when I was in school Well I got my full time Well I was interning from Like when I was a sophomore To when I graduated in 2018 So I was already working At the radio station For two years as an intern Yeah And then before I graduated I got a full time position To run all the social media For power 105 And then that summer I graduated When I started on the radar So on the radar I started Five years ago This month in 2018 Yeah So it started around your birthday Or the birthday party So you mixed your birthday With the anniversary Yeah I mixed the birthday with it I mixed the anniversary We're gonna do something else For on the radar for the five year Like a more like Proper installation Like a more pop up thing But the birthday party We did mix with the five year Just kind of killed Two birds one stone with that Yeah but like How many days after was it Do you know the exact dates? Well okay so the thing is There's like a It's like a floating day right Because the first ever on the radar Upload on the channel was I think the 27th of August But we had it uploaded Originally on the power 105 One channel before that So it probably is earlier But I count the five year Anniversary of on the radar Being the day that we first Uploaded the first interview To the channel So it's like I think it's like Either the 27th or the 29th Yeah About this month but yeah That's crazy because The first time's anniversary Is the same month as my birthday too For real? That's only how close is it? I think it's like Around your birthday You feel real inspired You start to think about Like things I should have done Things that I can do And then you're like Alright you know what I'm gonna try to build Something out of this Build something out of this Okay so So Okay so working at the radio When did you get your slot Because you have a morning slot now I got two slots now I got the Friday night slot Which is on the radar When me and DJ won Then I got the Sunday slot But I first got my slots Normally when you Start doing radio They start you off on the overnight Two to five in the morning Just because that's kind of Like where you can learn And make mistakes Before you go to the mid days Or during the day right So I started doing it It's about I think it's almost two years now That I've been doing That I've been on the radio But they started me off September of 2021 And it was overnight And I was doing five days a week So I was And so I'm not I wasn't really a night person Before that Like I kind of was But like I hated being up At like five six in the morning But it was cool because What it taught me was It taught me to be comfortable With being up at night So I would be up at From two to five in the morning Then I would just sleep During the day And that's when I started Doing those shifts And then after After that You know like kinda I would say like six months And they stopped me doing that And then they gave me The mid day shifts That was rotating And then like four or five months into that They gave me the Friday night slot To play on the radar freestyle And you know just go crazy on And then a couple months after that They gave me the Sunday slot So everything was like a very slow progression But like you know It happened over time You know fairly quickly I guess you could say Right Not for sure For sure So like when doing on the radar And doing those free styles And things like that Did the radio station take time To like wanna be helped With that bridge Or you really had to lay down The foundation It took time I mean cause you know what it is Like I feel like Young people we have to prove ourselves But I think in general too Everything is like a proving Like you gotta prove like a Prove a concept Right Concept I think consistency too Consistency too Cause I think when I first started I always thought that like I deserved everything like Off the rip Because I was just like I had the vision That's honest But you gotta But as I worked more And as I focused more And as I kinda learned more I realized that like It's not about like Just having the vision You gotta prove the vision You gotta show the consistency And it's like The numbers gotta be there Two at the end of the day So if I'm not doing anything Then why would they Pick me up or have me Do other things with them Which I understand now Cause I see it now Cause I'm at a certain level Where it's like I understand that But like something I would preach To like younger people Who wanna do what we do Or who wanna get into media Like you just gotta like Actually prove yourself first And honestly Consistency is everything Like the more consistent you are The more your brand's gonna get Out there The more videos you make The more your brand's gonna get Out there Like one view on a video You're already doing something right Cause somebody's watching out there So that's kinda how that happened That's right Okay so As progressing now How are you going about Picking your guess now? I mean like you know the one Here's the incredible thing About on the radar right The incredible thing about On the radar is that You could have someone Like Drake on the platform But then you could still Like I shot I shot like Rosco G The other day You could still have that The duality of having someone Big like Drake and Rosco G On the same platform I think by the time people See this ESTG will probably be out We shot ESTG But then also that same day We shot somebody locally From New York You know what I'm saying So it's really just like I gotta see the vision Somebody from my team Gotta see the vision too With the artist because At the same time it's like I can't be everywhere All at once anymore Like I can't always be A lot of hats you wear now I wear a lot of hats I got a lot of different shows I do But I do do my due diligence I have income in artists Whether they be from New York Or be from other cities But that's pretty much like I know that's a very broad way To go about it Or very broad way to say it But it's really how it is Honestly like there's no magic Secret sauce On how I pick artists For on the radar It's just that like I see it And I'm like okay That's a good look for us And that's a good look for the artists And it makes sense Because they're moving right now And then that's kind of How we'll pick them Yeah I was saying That's something I feel like We appreciate Especially all of us That's still working up Is that like The whole boundaries now Of you blocking those local artists Yeah They can still be up there With the Drake's and ESG's And so on and so forth Yeah like you And it's cool because they get to be like Oh this where Drake stood Like that happened to me yesterday But then like you know Also we have artists like Roy Woods Who is one of Drake's artists Who came yesterday And he's like bro I love this platform Because I use it to find artists Not just from New York But from everywhere like We've had like local Toronto artists Yeah I travel too yeah Yeah we've had artists From all around come on So it's kind of become like Cool because like I said You got the local artists From down the block Wherever you from But you might also see like Real Boston Richie Love Tyler Sleazy World Go Sleepy Hollow Like bigger artists On the show too And it's just like a nice Little blend of everything Time Yeah for sure for sure for sure Okay so what's your Favorite viral moment From on the radar Oh favorite viral moment From on the radar Because you got a couple I know we have a few Definitely like I'll do like one interview one And then like one like Freestyle one Because I feel like That's the best way to split it up Favorite interview one Got to be the Ice Spice Nike Tech one You know what I'm saying Nike you owe me a check Right But that's got to be Because that one was so like Unexpectedly that popped off too And it was like a clip in the interview That I didn't even think to cut Somebody else cut it Which I thought was even funny I'm like how did I miss this And then favorite freestyle one Like obviously D-Tang Had kicked everything off And I thought that That was such an incredible moment But at the same time Like you can't deny that Like looking at the four one stuff With them mixing like In like Jen, Kyle and Tata In with like Yi and Uzi Like Beats Like that's That's dope Like that's incredible And like the fan They did a I showed in my interview with My second interview with four one That's coming out soon Like I showed Tata Tata never saw the family guy mashup So like I showed Tata The family guy mashup And Tata was like How did I miss this one But that just goes to show you How like crazy that time period was Of like having all these Different mashups at the same time So yeah I'll definitely say like From the freestyle one Like watching the four one One get all these different remixes Was just like super crazy Nah for sure for sure So but Drake's got verse to the month Yes for Genius Was you expecting that Or like Were you expecting Drake Or the verse to the month The verse to the month No I was not expecting that I think it's cool like You know cause I think that Like a lot of people like With this Drake freestyle It's kind of like a return to Format for Drake Like I feel like Drake was recently Like oh like they miss an old Drake girl don't tell me Cause he's gonna put the For the Dogs album out But I feel like that this freestyle Was cool cause it kind of gave A little bit of that old Drake And I feel like that's why I got That verse to the month too For sure for sure So how'd you get the Drake call Like what was happening What was going on Well the real like The real story behind it is Drake had like DM'd us Like about a month ago Saying he wanted Like it's really like Not that crazy of a story Like he DM'd us saying He wanted to come up Wanted to bring Sench And then tour happened In New York and then Next thing you know he was there Okay so how was that We got a security building Cause Drake is coming How was that Well I mean like Alright so with that Like cause me speaking on how That goes would definitely Get me in trouble Yeah with this top secret Like the day he was coming Like nobody can know but staff I mean yeah just staff knew Like just staff knew You know what I'm saying Like I'm not gonna speak on Like how his security moves At all cause that's not my place But it was trust me The block and everything It was secure It was secure Without saying it too much Okay okay okay So now do you feel like Okay you coming up now I'm pretty sure like you know When the um When it starts to really hit in The fan a lot of people That probably wasn't supporting You back then are now super supportive Right And things like that Do you feel like um You was blocked of any opportunities On your way up Um I mean yeah like I feel like there were a couple Times where I could have had Somebody bigger or somebody Who I really wanted to But they were just like Oh like the platform doesn't Feel right um especially when It was like coming out the pandemic And it was a lot of drill artists Like right like people Like seeing that many drill artists On a platform scared a lot of people Um but also like I knew that like as everything Opened back up We would be able to diversify more Yeah um which I Which we definitely did You know what I'm saying You were there when 2C and HK Um so once we were able to Diversify I was like Look guys like It's not just a drill platform We could do more so like These other artists That you're like afraid to bring me Like they can come And then you know Slowly started rolling in We did the Rolling Loud We met a lot of incredible People at the Rolling Loud And shit like that And then that's how we were able To kind of expand the show And also get those blessings But it's the business You know what I'm saying It's part of like having to Prove yourself and trying To get those looks like It's just part of the game Like I don't take anything Personal cause I know it's just Business at the end of the day Um so yeah it is what it is What advice would you give Those people that are I guess working on their Brands and crafts And trying to get Trying to be more diversified Man like I know it's hard to say It's like it's cliche It's hard to say cause it's cliche Right but like it's really like You just gotta stay consistent With everything because Consistency is the key And then also like Like let's say And I tell this to like You know people who have like New York platforms That are like drill platforms To like friends of mine I'm like look man like You certain things don't Last forever like You look at every music scene Like music scenes have died Out over time Not saying that drill is Going anywhere right now Cause it's still very prominent So very popular in New York But like if you want to You know past this era You gotta expand You gotta like You gotta look at When people like I know you have K Carbon Coming to do the show right Shout out Toby Like you know It's like doing things like that And you know We just did Oh you did fat Yeah exactly Like you know what I'm saying You meet one person from Memphis And that opens A million doors to everybody else You know I did Gloria's first interview In New York That opened every door To Memphis I could ever Have asked for You know what I'm saying I did YTV fat Then I got to speak With Money Bag at the BET Awards Like there's like Once you start kind of expanding And you show people in other cities Like hey look You're also welcome here It's not just about me It's not just about New York Or it's not Wherever you live Whether it be L.A. Memphis whatever Like you show them that Like they can do artists From other places too And that's how I explain people Like explain to people That like that's how you expand And you grow And also consistency Like if you're not being Consistent you're gonna get Lost in the algorithm So if you really want to keep Growing as a personality As a brand As a show As a platform Like you just got to Stay consistent and drop Like every day Yeah that's what's happening To us right now a little bit Because like on the blog Because you know we got the Blog and the interviews On the daily tip It is a lot of drill stuff Because they do so much stuff But on the YouTube side of things The people we sit down With are more Memphis So I'm trying to like Or just out of state periods So I'm trying to mix it All together Right like you got a bunch Of Jersey people coming You're after this Which is dope Right so I'm just trying To expand more too You know what I'm saying But people also don't be I feel like doing the research I feel What People don't do the research For artists Like let's say After something they might Not do the research They might just see glimpse At it and be like Well here the thing too Is like a lot of people Like other states like Sometimes even in other states They'll be like Oh I know fat from your show But I don't know about The drill stuff from your show Which is kind of interesting Now considering that we came Up off so much drill New York drill music That it's like Oh yeah I know YTB fat But I don't know who 4-1 is But to me that's kind of It's a good thing That's a good problem To have Exactly like now You can go introduce yourself To all this other music And shit Oh yeah Do you feel like The freestyle Sort of overpowered your interviews Or like what do you think I mean absolutely But that's not a bad thing You know like I don't have a problem It's not a bad thing I don't have a problem with it Because like the interviews I still love doing And like I feel like The interviews for me Like yeah it's a content piece But it's also a conversational tool To build a relationship With an artist Beyond the freestyles Like me and Roy Woods Yesterday we had a great Like 40 minute conversation About life Being a fan Being a He's a pops now He gave up doing drugs But like We built like a real connection Through these interviews So often times like I look at the interviews Like yeah it's a great interview Like real fans are going To love it And it might not get As many views as a freestyle But like it gives me An opportunity to speak With the artist Beyond the freestyle And then through that Like we build this friendship With each other And then it's like Oh now if I need Like you know When he left I was like Yo Roy like send me From Toronto That you like Cause I want to do some shit With them He's like I got you And then like you know The interviews are just another form Of networking to me too But also great content pieces Please go watch my interviews Cause there's some The really good ones The G Herbal one that I did Last year is one of my favorites Yeah that was a good one Thank you Yes that G Herbal was a good one Glorilla I feel like you have A couple good ones Yeah we had a couple good We had a band that Destroyed the only one Destroyed the only Doesn't do interviews Doesn't do interviews at all And the whole interview Me and him were like Talking about video games Like a way to get Artists out of their Typical Okay how'd you start rapping Okay Everybody asks Destroyed the only about Playboy Cardi Like I don't want to do that Like I want to talk to Destroyed the only about Overwatch And like Shit that he likes And doesn't like to do You know so Yeah so So yeah People really enjoy I think Sending down with you too Cause they feel like You're not click baby Like some interviews try to Right That's the point Like I think like You know I came up To say this too In interviews like I came up under Angie And like You know kind of like That old school form Of interviewing So for me If like people want to Get into the business And get into the drama Then we can do it But I'm not going to Reach for it Like I'm not going to Be like Okay so you did this Like nah Like I'll kind of Let them bring it up Naturally and then If I could tell That they want to Talk about Or they tell me before Like you know I want to address this Then let's address it But until then I'm burning the bridge Off of a click baby Or something else happens Yeah exactly So on the radar records I don't know You didn't really announce That you Nah it's announced It's announced I'm not like with the deal What deal With empire No no no So what we're doing I can say what we're doing Empire, shout out Bobby You don't have to Nah it's not like A deal with empire We're working on a project With like Dusty Locain And 95mm So we got that Coming up with some About free Dusty He's going to be home soon On the radar Still like an independent label As of right now We're still Taking the meeting Shopping around But we are doing Like little one-off projects With like empire With Dusty I got a collab project With Matt Ali Which is going to have cash Cash Cobain We're working on Getting Wolf Face on it Wolf Face Joey Vonte the singer Groovy B-Jax Ken Rebel Chow Lee Trafflor Guap 917 Rax is on that project too Like that's something With him I got a three pack With 917 Rax coming out They got a couple projects You working on Yeah, yeah Like I'm really in the space Now where It was funny because my man Sent me this clip of Gucci Talking earlier And it was like Gucci was talking about How like the label Is like why you drop All this music a year Or why do you drop so much Like you should Drop once a year And he's like That's how they try to Control you He's like You gotta realize That music is an asset So the more music you have The more leverage you have To do a label Um We started in January Because we're like Yo we have all these Freestyles And there's so much That we could do with these Freestyles And there's so much extra Of course money That we're leaving on the table By not putting these on streaming But also Opportunities that we Could give artists Like to have Like because some of these Artists don't have Big streaming numbers Like others do But like If we put them in On the radar ecosystem If someone Like it's like how People could get lost In our channel for hours By watching a couple To get lost on our streaming On our streaming Page By like You know They go watch the Blockwork Or listen to the Blockwork freestyle But then they're like Oh look They just dropped A record called Sexy Besties Out now Right Then they go listen to that Or then they'll go back And they'll listen to some Old like Like Desi Hines Or Aaron Rose Freestyles Like there's like A lot It's like a spider web Right Where it's like You could get lost So I guess You now Like Sexy Bestie They have like A different cover art Than the on the radar Yeah that's like That's like a real single though No that's a real single So like When do you determine We're going to Separate it for us This will be a freestyle And this will be a song Well the freestyle Obviously are just like They come on the platform Like Maya Or Blockwork Or anybody And like They just do their shit And then it goes up on Streaming It goes up on the page Sexy Besties And like To others Those were like In studio Like we created those records Together Like when we did Sexy Besties That was When me and Matt Were working on our project Together And then he put Chao while we were there On it And Vonte on it And then we're like Yo like We should put this out Together Like this would be great And then we came up with Like the porn VHS Kind of cover art Like the Pounder Drown The Two Sizzies Yeah like We came up with After the fact We had done that We had like A eight hour studio session Recording to me And Matt Ali project And that cover And that song Was one of the songs That came out of it Fire Fire Okay so like So But the Drake one Got a billboard entry How was that When you got the newest Crazy Honestly like I always wanted to see Like the on the radar name Be Be on billboard But to think It would be like What Drake was like Not something we expected And it's cool cause We're also Like I always said I wanted to be the bridge The gap between The UK and And America And I think we did that Very well with A.J. Tracy Diggity And a lot of other artists And of course Central C And this being Central C's First ever American Billboard Entry Is so great to be a part Of that Cause I would have thought Honestly I would have Thought Doja would have been But I don't know Why Doja never did Cause I know It's a big record Over here still But I don't know I think that I don't know How to figure out Which category to put Certain songs That's what I think But I don't know where Doja's still hip hop though Like the Doja like I'm talking about Central C's Doja record Yeah Nah that's not really poppy It's definitely hip hop But I think But I don't know why I feel like it Probably might have been But I guess maybe At the time Central C Like they would Consider him Like an international act Maybe there's a different chart For that I gotta check But being part of his First ever Hot 100 Entry Shout out Central C man Shout out Drake So when he was When he was building On the radar records Trying to get I guess somebody's freestyle Clear What's labels giving you A hard time? I mean like A lot of the ones That we put out Are wit labels Like most of them Are independent artists But like we do put Some of them out with labels And you know It's just kind of Like what we learn What we're learning Is just like The ins and outs of labels Like we're learning With the labels On how to like Go about putting These freestyles out With your partner With getting these freestyles out And we put The one hour passion out So that one's out And we got a few others Coming with labels too But definitely working with labels Does take a little bit more Of a time Because there's more cooks In the kitchen Which is why Like you know I love that On the radar still works With so many independent artists Because it just makes my job A lot easier To put these freestyles out And you still Like you say Giving them a network To help them get their Recognition And all that Absolutely So of course I love how you support Your show Love C team They come with you everywhere Literally they come with me Topes outside on a Zoom call right now For our five year anniversary show So like How did you confirm Like who you wanted On your team And like how did you go about that Here's the craziest Shit about my team right No this is really crazy I never interviewed Any of them To be a part of the show Like a lot of how My team came around Is like they really Were just like Well Rob came around My main producer and engineer He came around Because he was like The one who Was working at the other That I was shooting at When we started doing On the radar right John was just Someone who I had known For years but we never worked On anything he just started Like coming around And coming around And coming around bringing me More like lyrical type of Artists more Like Benny the butcher type Artists and from Buffalo To like he brought me A lot of like The Griselda guys Nice nice nice Calvin was just coming Around being a photographer Like he came around That's how he started with Us And then Toby was Started coming around By bringing me artists Like she brought me Real Boston Richie An interview ever And his first ever freestyle And she was like Let me do your schedule And then over time Like me and Toby built this Report and then everybody Just kind of became a part Of the team naturally And it was never like Oh like let me interview To become a part of the team Let me do this Let me do that No like everybody Who's part of on the radar Has joined on the radar Because they just came Around and it kind of Has just become Like this family dynamic Not so much like I'm your boss Is like no We're all like a family Even though we try Not to work business with That Going out together And also being a family And working together At the same time Working together at the same time That's really nice That's really cool So like the ciphers I feel like the ciphers Are super evolving right now It's crazy Because I seen the Florida cipher Yes that's coming We're doing a We're going to probably Drop LA and Florida Back to back So LA has like Reason from TDE Simba Pac-Man the gunman And a few other artists On that one And then Florida has It's just a ton of the Upcoming Florida artists And we're really trying to Like when we go to these Different cities Like we're not doing it in Philly But like We're really trying to do These ciphers in different cities To showcase the upcoming Talent in every city Like we did it with the ladies In Atlanta which was Super dope So yeah We're just trying to Make them bigger and better The ladies night one Did really really good Was that the first ever One right The ladies night The first ladies night One was one with Lola Yeah I know But was that the first Ever cipher No what was the first Ever cipher The ladies night one The first one It might have been So's B4L had the first cipher I'm not sure It's hard You do a lot And Toby's got my phone So I can't even check But it might be So's I don't know I gotta check that So what's the plan With the cipher You say you want to go To different things To definitely showcase Other artists Are you uploading those On DSPs too Some of them we're trying Yeah we're trying But I think the plan Is just like We're just going to Keep trying to do What we do in different cities Like I said We did it in Florida We did it in Atlanta Which place you want to do it That you're having it Ooh that's a good question The UK Obviously The UK And I kind of want to do one in Like Jamaica Who are you thinking for the UK You want them all upcoming Or you want to do something big With the Poppy ones I'd love to do something big With the Poppy ones But again like I'm not going to sit here And name everybody's name Because I know there's a I'm not fully in tune With all the UK politics Like I know enough But I don't want to Just speak and be like Oh yeah these people But like you know If I could get like At least some of the people Who've been on my show Before like To be super incredible Like I would love to do something Like that Or have like gigs curate a cipher Because you know Gigs is like the mayor out there So I really want to like Have someone You know have a figure Had like gigs Who's a legend Like coordinate that cipher So we'll see Okay so you had the um So I'm like What's happening Something going on out there So on the radar Anniversary happened You got the ciphers You got the freestyles What's some other plans You have for on the radar Right now Well right now We're playing on doing On the radar international So we're doing that We got an international tour plan We have the Oh international tour Yep an international tour We're going to go to We're going to go to London, Toronto Vancouver, Montreal Jamaica I want to do Puerto Rico, DR Germany, France Wait Germany Yeah Germany, France Italy, Spain Okay Nigeria, Ghana South Africa So we want to do like We want to cover everything Like we want to go all around The world with the show So we're going to start Working on that next year Okay This year we're going to Finish up our tour here in America So we're going to go to The rest of the cities That we had planned already We're going to go to other cities Like you know Sleazy Sleazy is from where? Kansas Sleazy wants us to come to Kansas So we might do that I don't even know A lot of artists in Kansas You know You know what has a Crazy music scene right now Milwaukee Milwaukee Yep so we want to Go to Milwaukee So we're talking to like I feel like St. Louis Doing anything St. Louis got a great scene So we're working with Different you know We're open to doing Other cities in America So cities that we already announced That we have left And then we're going to go International Ooh okay okay okay Alright last one Quick list of that game Alright let's see Power or snowfall Wait power you said Power Okay road trips or flights I like road trips Hotels at Airbnb Hotels Twitter or threads Twitter Roundtable talk or radio Radio Drill or Jersey club Ooh Jersey club Lounge or strip clubs Lounge And Charlemagne or drill button Charlemagne Come on man I can't That's home team I can't do that That's all that's all Alright so tell the people How can they tune in If they don't know They should know You already know it's Mr.