Hello, everyone. Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, depending on where you're logging in from. And welcome to the Land Dialogue Webinar Series, organized in partnership with the Ford Foundation, the Land Portal Foundation, the Tenure Facility and the Thompson Reuters Foundation. Thank you for joining us. My name is Thin, and I'm a journalist specializing in food systems and climate change, and I'm delighted to be moderating today's session, which is on carbon markets and indigenous lands, the importance of free, prior and informed consent. Now, the idea behind these webinar series is to raise awareness on the land rights of indigenous peoples and local communities, because we believe that these rights are a prerequisite to achieve national and international goals on key issues like forest governance, food security, climate mitigation, economic development, and of course, human rights. This is our third Land Dialogue for this year, and we have focused on different topics. We're going to have one more in December before COP28. Now, before we start the webinar proper, let me just go through some housekeeping rules. The webinar today is mainly in English and Spanish, but we have simultaneous translations also in French and Portuguese. Now, to access the translation, all you need to do is just go to the globe icon at the bottom of your Zoom window. You click on it, and then you can select the language that you want. This webinar will last 60 minutes. We have set aside about 15 minutes for Q&A, so if you have any questions, please use the Q&A box to post them, not the checkbox. But please do use the checkbox to introduce us where you are from, which organization you belong to. You can also tweet using the hashtag LEN Dialogues in one word, and you can also follow the live tweeting from the LEN portal and tenure facility Twitter accounts, or maybe I should say X accounts. And finally, we're also recording today's session, and we will be sharing the links later. Now that I've gotten that out of the way, let's turn to the topic at hand, which is on carbon markets. Now, this is a fascinating but also a controversial topic. And it's very, very timely, given that there is the climate week in New York coming up next week. And I think that's also why we have such high interest in this webinar. We already have more than 300 people joining us, you know, right now. Now, some see carbon markets as a key fight against climate change. That's going to be also providing much needed financing to save our forests, which are carbon sinks. Now, others think that there are a tool for greenwashing, or worse, they're going to dispossess indigenous and local communities. The thing is, a lot of us don't fully understand how carbon markets work and see them as complex financial instruments, or at least I do. So we want to demystify them a little bit. And that's why we have a slightly different format today. So we're first going to have an overview of carbon markets from an academic expert. And then we're going to have a panel discussion with three indigenous leaders about the experiences on the ground when it comes to carbon markets. And now let me introduce you to our speakers in alphabetical order. Now, we have a Levy Sucre Romero, who is the coordinator of the Mesoamerican Alliance of Peoples and Forests. Now, this alliance represents indigenous peoples and local communities in the territories between Panama and Mexico. Levy is an indigenous Bribri Costa Rican, and also the co-chair of the Global Alliance of Territorial Communities. Next, we have Marco Chavez-Coyjoy, who is the coordinator of the legal department of the Community Forestry Association of Guatemala-Udsche. Now, Marco is a member of the Mayake chair community of the Tupac Amaru indigenous community. And last, but definitely not the least, we have Catherine Lofts, senior research associate with the Canada Research Chair in Human Rights, Health and the Environment at McGill University. Now, Catherine is a lawyer by training and has worked on the intersection of climate change, human rights and environmental governments for over a decade. And she's going to set the scene for this discussion today by bringing us up to speed on what's happening with carbon markets. Catherine, the floor is yours. Thank you so much, Thin. It's really a pleasure to be a part of today's dialogue and to participate alongside these remarkable indigenous leaders who will be sharing their own experiences and their expertise. And this is a very big topic, so I'm going to dive right in beginning with the question of what exactly carbon markets are. So, simply defined, a carbon market is a trading system in which carbon credits are sold and bought. And these carbon credits are generated through entities such as communities or states. And they're generated when these entities remove or reduce greenhouse gas emissions. So for example, through renewable energy projects, through red plus projects and so forth. So companies or individuals or other entities can then purchase these carbon credits through the carbon market and can use them to compensate for or offset their own greenhouse gas emissions. There are two main types of carbon markets. The first is the compliance markets and these are created and regulated by mandatory carbon reduction schemes in certain jurisdictions. And then there are the voluntary carbon markets. These enable companies and individuals to purchase credits on a voluntary basis. So that is an extremely short definition of sort of what carbon markets are really in a nutshell. So we can see that many countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America are now poised to implement their own red plus programs and projects and other land based initiatives that are aiming to remove, reduce and avoid carbon emissions, thus generating credits and generating offsets for the carbon market. As I mentioned there, there has been tremendous interest and a tremendous amount of investment in these so called nature based solutions. So countries and corporations around the world are really looking to these kinds of programs and needs kinds of initiatives to help them meet their own emission reduction targets and their own net zero commitments. And a few, as been mentioned, major issues with this and I'm just going to be able to briefly outline these here. The first issue is that many of the credits that are being generated and that are being traded on the carbon market are simply not doing what they claim to do. So we've seen recently, for example, research that's come out showing that there's evidence that vast numbers of these carbon credits are actually not doing anything to mitigate climate change. They're actually bogus essentially so this is pretty much this is a pretty fundamental issue about the effectiveness of carbon markets, but the second issue, which is the one that I want to focus more on here is in relation to the rights of indigenous peoples and local communities. Today, most of these interventions, most of these land based mitigation initiatives have taken place in areas that are customarily held by indigenous peoples, local communities, and Afro descendant peoples. So the majority of these lands where these projects and initiatives are taking place are indigenous and community lands. And indigenous peoples and local communities around the world have long been the stewards of forests, and of other ecosystems, yet around the world, only about half of the areas that are held by indigenous peoples and local communities have actually been legally recognized by governments. So we have all of this action now this interest and investment these projects that are taking place on land that is customarily held by, and stewarded by indigenous peoples and local communities, but that is not actually legally recognized as such. And even in cases where land rights are acknowledged, the rights to the carbon that is stored on those lands and stored in those forests, and the rights to the tradable emissions reductions that come from that carbon are very seldom explicitly defined in law. So the legal frameworks are simply not in place to manage and address this trade and carbon. So we need this failure to adequately recognize the rights of indigenous peoples and the role that they play in global climate mitigation poses major, major risks, not only for the indigenous peoples and the local communities themselves, but also for investors for governments, and for the very success of these schemes. To illustrate the large number of indigenous rights that we see that are clearly set out and established under international law. We aren't seeing that those rights are being robustly upheld in the context of the carbon market. And this includes the right to self determination, land and resource rights rights to participation and consultation. The right to free prior and informed consent in, in too many cases, indigenous peoples and local communities are not being treated as equal partners. Of course, we are seeing a tremendous amount of mobilization around these issues on the part of indigenous peoples and local communities themselves and at many levels from the local to the transnational, including across Asia, Africa and Latin countries. And this is something that I'm sure the other panelists will be in a much better position to speak to. And so I'm going to stop here. I'm really looking forward to hearing the discussion from the other speakers and their views on what's happening in their communities and of course I'm available for questions at the question period. Thank you so much. Thank you so much Catherine for this concise but info packed introduction I know we give you an impossible task giving you like five minutes to try and sum up carbon markets but really appreciate you doing that and also for mentioning, of course, Asia and Africa because we have a lot of indigenous leaders present today but this mainly from South America but this is a global issue that affects other parts of the world as well. Now that we know what carbon markets are and what are some of the big problems. We're going to hear from indigenous communities who are seeing how this work. You know how this work firsthand in their communities, we're going to try and fit in three rounds of questions in the next half an hour. So we would really appreciate if our speakers could keep their answers precise and not more than three minutes for each answer. And we would also like to ask them to speak slow so that our interpreters can actually understand and be able to translate them as accurately as possible. Again, if you have any questions, please use the Q&A box. Now I'm going to turn to the panelists and for this round, I would like to hear from you, your experience so far to date with carbon markets, have they worked, have they not worked? How has it been? Levy, can I start with you first because if I'm not wrong, you have been working on carbon markets for decades in Costa Rica, right? Thank you very much, Tim. You already introduced me, so I won't do that again. I am a Bribri Indigenous person from Costa Rica, and since 1997, the Indigenous people, we have been working at a national level for a carbon trading system. This allowed us to work on creating a national network strategy that included previous and informed consent and created the prerequisite in our country so that Costa Rica today is able to create more investment, more funding for forests through the carbon markets, taking into account the necessary prerequisite from national and forest protection so that we can participate in international carbon trading. Of course, this is a complex topic and globally, some of these strategies have failed because the prerequisite haven't been fulfilled. These prerequisites require the free informed consent of the Indigenous people, and this is something that many countries have not done. So this created a fracture in the market. There's an initiative that is trying to cover what the network hasn't done with the high integrity carbon trading, and there's another line that's just even scamming communities without any control in the trading. So we do believe that certification could be an alternative, but even then, certifications haven't made it possible to solidify Indigenous people's rights in the carbon market. And as a region we are worried with certification and we are really working on it. I do not have the time to present our strategy, but I will try to explain it in the next questions.  Thank you very much. Thank you, Levi. And you mentioned the free prior informed consent being crucial and how that is still not available. That's going to be the next question where we will dive deep into this issue. Marco, I want to actually come to you next to hear your thoughts on any experiences on carbon markets. Marco. Good morning. Thank you very much for the space. Thank you then. Well, from Guatemala's perspective, especially when it comes to the participation of local communities and Indigenous peoples, there have been some efforts, especially promoted from the articulation of regional and local spaces. These spaces, for example, the Mesoamerican Alliance of Peoples and Forests was one of them and some other efforts made by community organizations. For example, the organization from Guatemala that I represent, which looks to bring communities real and critical information on the progress of climate finance, including carbon markets. The dialogue, construction and proposals directed by communities and Indigenous peoples towards global climate finance must be heard. The challenge is really that the voices of these communities and peoples are legitimately heard, but also taken into consideration. And that's where the prior informed consent comes into play. And sometimes they are not promoted by the states. They usually privilege and prioritize personal and sectorial interests. Currently, Indigenous communities do not, communities in Guatemala do not prioritize information on carbon markets. And this is because they have to meet basic needs, such as access to land, education, health, and conditions for a dignified life that are not yet guaranteed. So I believe that the efforts must be greater concerning the access of land and carbon markets. The carbon markets from the thematic approach still has to face these historical conditions. And they have to take into consideration these matters to meet needs. They still need information and they must be taken into consideration and must be, must have direct participation in decision making processes. And not only the dialogues, but they also have to integrate their interest concerning the historical matters of Indigenous peoples. Thank you. Yes, Marco. It sounds like, you know, there's this massive power and information in balance is one of the big challenges that is that that's there at the moment when it comes to carbon markets. I've just been told that we also have interpretation in Bahasa Indonesia. So if you need to listen to this webinar in Bahasa Indonesia, just go to the little globe icon below and click on that. Now, Marisol, I'd like to hear your thoughts on carbon markets. Thank you so much. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for this space. Well, to tell you about the Kichwa, the Kichwa situation, the Kichwa people's situation here in Santa Martín region in Peru, there are two protector areas, one the Cordillera Soul Park, and the other one is called the National Service. Concerning the Cordillera National Park, carbon markets have been sold since 2014. But the issue here is that first, we didn't have information first. Second, we weren't the decision makers. Who those are sold to? Nothing. We weren't part of the advisory council either. Nothing at all. We were basically excluded totally when it comes to the decision making. And we had to go to the transparency court here in Peru to have access to the information. Who they were sold to and what is being generated from that soul, from that cell. So we found that the main buyers were Shell, Total Energy Company. And the most ironic thing here is out of these millionaires sales is that we are the ones safeguarding and protecting our territories. And we are the ones doing them constant monitoring of the area. Systems of alert. And out of those, because of doing those efforts, we are being punished, we are being criminalized, we are being persecuted. There is a great level of violence towards indigenous peoples because of making these issues visible only. We don't receive absolutely anything out of these cells of carbon market credits because we have, we don't have titles yet. And the park calls us neighbors. And because of that, we cannot receive any benefits because of those cells. But how can because we are the ancestral stewards of these lands and we don't receive any benefits of it. We do the territorial monitors and monitoring and for doing that we need some resources, medicine and so forth. And we do this, we receive this not because of the sales of carbon market credits. So we are so concerned. Because first, we think that the sales of credit market carbon credits, carbon market credit, carbon's are not enough and are are fake. Because it's true that the genius peoples have some documents about protected areas, but those documents ignore and make rights of indigenous peoples in that area vulnerable. And we are very concerned, because we would like to be part of the group of decision makers and really do a due process on who the carbon credits are being sold to. Thank you so very much. Thank you, Marisol. Now that I have you here I would actually like you to begin the second round of questions. And this specifically looks into the free prior and informed consent because you know just listening to all three of you. It's very, very clear that, you know, government state agencies and maybe the private sector as well are actually failing in this bit which everybody says is crucial you're not, you know, benefiting from carbon markets as they are at the moment, part of the reason of course has to do with the title and rights but also just the lack of information. Can you tell us why, you know, the free prior and informed consent is important. And do you have any examples or instances whether its presence or absent has had a significant difference in outcomes for projects. And actually I just also saw that there is a question in the Q&A which I think is linked to that so I think how, you know, if you have any examples of any successes of getting governments and state agencies or private sector to understand how important this is. Please share any experience any anecdotes that you might have Marisol. Thank you so much. Effectively in 2001, the Cordillera Soule National Park was created and then in 2005, the National Conservation Area, Sarah Soule was also created both protected areas were created inside the Quechua territory but without any consent any free prior and informed consent they did not ask the consent of Quechua's people for them to come here. So the thing is that we were taken, they took away our ancestral territory we didn't have we don't have the free transit in that area we cannot even get closer to one kill one kilometer closer to that area. So for us. We are very concerned because what has happened is that for example my brothers when they go to do some hunting. People get their the meat that they retrieved out of their hands and burn them. They take away our food, we go to the rivers we go to the forest and we retrieve fish and meat everything that we need to work. Everything that we need to to nurture our family. So the people who have created is called this person of the area is the Peruvian government. The Peruvian government do not respect international international conventions international agreements they are taking away rights out of indigenous peoples. They are telling us that we cannot have have we cannot have free transit in their areas because the law of protected areas, protect the areas, and in the Constitution they tell us that we cannot come in, but there was not free prior any consent. Why this hasn't been done in the beginning. So now we have a historical fight, because in the case of Sarah Scalera is. It's been years and in the Cordillera so National Park it's been more than 20 years of fighting. So we need that safety that legal safety. So we can feel that we can make decisions on that matter, but they never had our consent in the first place here in San Martín in Peru, we are facing this way. Not only Kichwa's people's but also the people community is the kind of a community, they never receive free prior free concern either. Are affected by this because if they have had respected this consent, we wouldn't be in this situation. Because the only thing we need we want is to retrieve or get back our good living, and we want our rights to be recognized the land rights and territorial rights. Governance as well to be respected and to safeguard the integrity of indigenous peoples. But for that, we have to ask, I cannot go into a house, just because I want to. And just because I represent the state, we have to start respecting. We are human beings indigenous peoples are human beings and we have rights under the international human rights. But at some point, they did not apply the free prioring from consent to us. Thank you. Yeah, that's very sobering. Thank you for that, Marisol. Levy, we've heard about a lot of the problems. Do you have any positive examples of that and experiences that you could share on the epic? Thank you. Our experience here in Costa Rica and our work as the Mesoamerican Alliance. Well, we do believe that free consent is crucial for several reasons. First because it allows us to conceptualize forests from an indigenous perspective. It is a more spiritual perspective, not a commercial perspective like the carbon market shows us. Also, the funding that comes from the carbon market has to be distributed, just as we do in our system. Also, it needs to create a system for creating consent and free consent. We cannot use a single way for every single people because for every people consent is different. Territories have a lot to do with protecting sacred spaces and making sure that we are aware. It also allows for us to have a bigger participation from the part of women, the elderly and the youth. This can be achieved through free consent. It is very important that we must address the issues of the fund and agree with respect. What are the issues? This is something we are well on our way with in Costa Rica with our program. I hope that every single country will be able to successfully implement this kind of project with free and informed consent. But if not, the people in charge of certification should be the ones who should be stepping up and dealing with this issue. And for actually sharing some of the positive outcomes and aspects of the Costa Rican example. Marco, what about in Guatemala? What are some of the experiences around the free, private and informed consent? Thank you very much, Tim. I would like to use my time reviewing some of the conditions in which some of the situations in which free consent is important. So some factors to take into account are historical factors, current situation as well as historical perception of indigenous communities. Historically, indigenous communities have been left aside from decision making regarding their own territories. And this has marked indigenous peoples regarding requesting of consent because most of their successes have been achieved through fighting. And nowadays the situation hasn't changed quite yet. Some successes have been won, but the challenges are still there. And we are still fighting to be recognized as people with rights. Communities have also created some their own initiatives and their own proposals. The third element would be perception. Often communities perceive projects such as carbon trading as inherently not trustworthy. And for us that means that consent is absolutely crucial in order to have a legitimate participation for indigenous communities. For example, in Guatemala with forest incentives, for us it was very important to guarantee that communities would be assured the legal tendency of the land. And nowadays it was successful, nowadays a reality. So nowadays, in order to achieve this forest incentives they need to certify their, they will be recognized as stewards of the forest. And this has been the result of our fight. This is not something, this is not just a space that was created by the space. But it was a fight so that we could have this right. Thanks Marco good to hear that there are some successes and, and in response to the push as well. And now we have a final round of question for we open the floor to Q&A and I actually like Catherine to come in as well to answer this but Marco I'd like to ask you to to to start this final round of question and this is actually based on on an example that you know that that I learned recently while talking to a researcher. And they've interviewed farmers in South America who were involved, who are still currently involved in a carbon offset project. Now the farmers well not told of what the project was about or how much the offsets are being sold and to whom they were asked to sign a single sheet of paper. So it's a very little idea of how the data about their farms their practices and the offsets that they their practices have generated are being used. So I'm really keen to hear your feedback on such an example or any other examples that you may have encountered where, how do we make sure that you know Indigenous peoples and local communities can own the data, their own data or at least know what is being used for when it comes to these projects. So I'm going to ask you to start first. Yeah. Marco, in terms of regarding what you're mentioning, this is a quite common situation in different communities. This is caused by the lack of open spaces for Indigenous people accessing information. The Mala, the emission reduction process, a process that has taken a long time to put into into work. Currently, we do not have all the facts regarding the implementation and there's limited community from Indigenous communities. And that makes it so that the Indigenous people in the local communities who at the end of the day are the stewards of the forest is quite limited. Their intervention is quite limited from our community. We have been trying to implement projects to make sure that everyone has fair access to information. And countries are also responsible of making sure that everyone has access to this information. And in what the Mala has a lot to do with the ESCASO pact, for example, to a pact which would make sure that access to information and informed consent would be a right. As from our community, this would be within the TAIC system, which would allow us to systematize information and make sure that the information is contextualized. And so that it can be given in our own native language in a way that allows communities to have full access to this information. And that is absolutely key to make sure participation is full. And this kind of processes will help these kinds of issues that happen when Indigenous peoples don't have the capabilities of participating fully. Thank you. Marisol, your thoughts. Hello. We are awfully worried because the Barovian state does not have a clear position on carbon trading. So we have here businessmen coming here and offering people and they tell the people that they're going to earn a lot of money from selling this carbon training. We're not quite sure what a carbon credit is, what carbon trading is. The only thing we know is that companies are using our forests to wash their image. We do not believe that nature based solutions and carbon training are quite real. We're not aware of how much it's going to be paid, how it's going to work. We do not have access to this information. We cannot take perfect decisions because we do not have the right to the territory to take decisions upon. We have been thrown away from the land and that's why we are not considered part of decision making spaces. We have been receiving people asking us for our deeds and individual and collective land deeds. And we were able to tell them to go to the ministry and we were able to see that they were just people that were trying to come here and scam us. They were trying to mine for this green, green bold. They were trying to, they were to the point that they were taken, their deeds were taken from them and they couldn't carry out their daily activities. They couldn't plan their plantings, they couldn't plan their own Yucca because that land was part of the database. This is not something that you are told you are given a document to sign but we are not given the information we're not being told.  And at the end we are signed things that are great for us. But here we understand that in order to be able to do carbon training, first we need to be stewards of the territory so that we have the administration so that we ourselves can decide what we are selling, how we are selling. Thank you. Thank you, Marisol. I realized that we have quite a lot of questions but I also really want Levy and Catherine to talk about essentially, you know, making sure that people have ownership of data so can we very quickly go to Levy. Levy, I'm so sorry to rush you but if you can keep your answer concise and then we'll go to Catherine and then we'll take the questions because we have quite a lot of questions coming in. Levy on data and ownership of data. Levy on data and ownership of data. If you can refer to that please. Thank you. So on this subject I have two comments to make. On the one hand, on the other hand and strategies have not worked. If the certification that we are looking for does not work, there would probably be an environmental fraud that is torturing indigenous peoples. If the regulatory measures are failing then we have a huge threat, not just the environmental climate change, but our peoples. That's my first comment. My second comment is concerning why it's difficult to explain these two communities. It is really difficult. Because to explain ocean layer, the cars, the markets, the businesses, the integrity, what is integrity, what is the cop. It's really really difficult to explain that to the communities. So the businesses who go and try to deal with this, try to trick people in order to accomplish their goals. And this is something really well explained by my colleague here. I believe it's an global environmental fraud. That's how I call it. So we're looking for alternatives. The free prior income consent, it's really really important, not just in Costa Rica we use mediators cultural mediators who can understand this and pass it along it to the peoples in their language and make them understand what they're looking for me. This is really important so effectively. Right. There are two strengths, there are two things happening in the indigenous peoples first in capacity of governments and businesses of not applying free and for prior informed consent and the second one is the irresponsible interest of some businesses to watch this since their environmental since I call it that way. I wanted to address these two topics to avoid environmental chaos and genocide, because they are taking away their livelihoods, the ways, the ways of sustaining life in different ways thank you so much. Thank you Levy Catherine would like to actually hear some of your thoughts with regards to data and ownership before we open the floor. Thank you. I'll just be really brief I think the other speakers have done a really excellent job of explaining the issues here and providing powerful examples and just from the legal perspective, you know the free prior and informed consent you know each of those words has a particular content is super important and so when we looked at the the informed aspect of this. It really has to be a fulsome and robust and comprehensive provision of information so you know the communities that are dealing with this have to be informed of all of the aspects of the of the project the context. The details the nitty gritty and you know that has to be provided in an accessible way. As the other speakers mentioned it has to be information that makes sense to the communities and this example of cultural mediators is a really good one in language that they can. In their language, obviously, and in a timeframe that makes sense with respect to certain cultural processes and decision making processes so all these aspects are really really important. If you actually want to have genuine free prior and informed consent and then just very quickly with respect to the data point. It brings to mind this important concept of and developing conscious concept of indigenous data governance and data sovereignty which really concerns indigenous peoples rights and interests in data and in their control of data which data that concerns them and to which they are linked and so I think this anecdote then that you that you share really raises important issues with respect to data sovereignty and and the carbon market. That's right. Now we have quite a few questions that we're going to move on to Q&A and what I'm going to do is I'm going to throw out three questions. And then we're going to go to each of the speakers and ask them to very briefly, either answer them answer, you know, whichever question that they want to answer from from this list. One question that says excellent presentations. Thank you. So to our panelists, thank you very much. Could you talk about whether you are using GIS technologies. So I think that's a, you know, satellite images I'm assuming to help you document and legalize land rights and to monitor threats. So that's one question. Another question is, have carbon markets brought any positive social impacts on the indigenous people and local communities with whom you've been working with. And if so, could you mention a couple of them. So, you know, we've been talking a lot about the problems. Are they any positives I think Levy mentioned one, and I think Marco also talk about how they've been able to push back but if there are any other examples that would be great. And third, how could indigenous people be genuinely empowered to participate effectively in carbon markets. So that's three questions. One is on whether you're using GIS to document and legalize land rights. Any positive examples and to empower them what's to be genuinely empowered. I mean, I think the dimension of cultural mediators. It's great, but are there any other ways. I wanted to, Marisol, can I come to you first if you want to answer any of these questions or all but if you could keep your answers brief so that we can at least have another round of at least three more questions. Sure. Well, first we do the monitoring process, the monitoring indigenous process, we do this by foot. You know, communities and some local communities and indigenous people do not have electricity, they cannot use phones, we have to walk, we have to walk a lot to be effective. That's how we call it. The effective protection, we have to walk 15 days 30 days in our territories because it's true that people protecting the protected areas they do it through satellites, but they do not report it they do not keep selling this image to businesses saying this is a green image and there's a lot of exploitation behind it of illegal logging in their own protected areas. So for us to make decisions in the carbon markets perspective we have to resolve first the territorial aspect. They have to recognize first that we are the real owners and have that legal protection. And based on that we can initiate some conversations about carbon markets and administration and regulations in this at this moment we don't have that rights and they don't consider indigenous peoples owners. So we have to apply there the consent we can involve indigenous peoples in the communities they think that carbon is what they burn the ashes. We have to teach our brothers that they about this they don't come and inform us in our own language and that is a huge gap. Anybody can come and trick people. Thank you. So it's not just about empowering indigenous people just blessing the governments. It's about ensuring that governments do their job and informing indigenous people as well not in addition to empowering levy any thoughts on the tech, any of the questions around the technologies, positive examples and the empowerment. Well concerning technology, I'd like to say that it's being used slowly in these matters. And because it's because the indigenous peoples are always left behind in that access of technology by the government. So the creation of capacities we can find it in our own territories but technology sometimes we can't in Costa Rica. From 1987 the indigenous peoples have received environmental payments because of our forests because of our services. We ask, we are at the same level. We are at the level where the government says this is investment of the government, but it's not an investment. This is something that we create. This is incomes that we create. So I think an aspect of a positive aspect of carbon markets and resolving the issue that governments sees this as an investment and they don't longer want to support us economically. So the carbon markets can support us, support it in that way. So concerning the consent, consent is not just for businesses. It's for us as well as peoples. And if we can make collective effort involving the elderlies, women, different groups and we can focalize what we want as peoples that will empower us besides money and economically positions that we can find. We can move in that matter through that way. Thank you. Thank you. Catherine, any, do you want to take or respond to any of those questions? Thank you. I'll just respond to the question about benefits, potential benefits of the carbon markets just quickly. You know, if carbon markets and the intense interest in carbon markets do push governments to clarify legal rights and do push governments to clarify legal frameworks and tenure rights, then that is a potential benefit, obviously. But there's also a risk there at the exact same time, however, because as there's more and more attention paid to these kinds of nature based solutions, then there's obviously can be a large disincentive to governments to even further dispossess indigenous peoples and local communities from their lands and from their rights because suddenly there is a value, greater value attached to this and so I just wanted to mention that that there's a potential benefit there that could, that could have overflow benefits in other areas with respect to indigenous rights but there's a risk and so really need to keep the pressure on governments and keep the attention on these aspects of legal rights and tenor rights and carbon rights. Thank you Catherine. Marco, would you like to touch on any of those answer and respond to any of those points and questions? Yes. I think I would only add a positive aspect, not just about carbon markets, but the climate finance specifically, or indigenous peoples and local communities. A good outcome of this finance is the dignification of the work that indigenous peoples are doing currently when it comes to the protection of their forests.  Ironically, these are the communities who are being affected by a system that don't provide access to education and information. This is really the last people to be considered in public policy. So, from, I think they can decide conditions for the indigenous peoples to decide on their own development. We see currently in the country, different experiences where indigenous peoples have been able to establish their own hydroelectric systems in their communities through a sustainable process without environmental impact, lacking a response from the government. Communities have established their own community, tourism, groups of women, groups of youth who are being entrepreneurs in their lands, so they boost equality. They have to really consider rights of indigenous peoples, one of them is free prior informed consent, legitimate participation of indigenous peoples, not just seeing indigenous peoples as another image, but it has to be legally binding to include indigenous peoples. Thank you. Great. Thank you so much. I realize that we are actually running out of time. We have, in fact, run out of time, but we have considering that we still have over 400 people in the webinar, and many more questions. If you don't mind, I will just take just the next few minutes to take three more questions. And what I would like to ask the speakers is to actually only answer one, only answer one as your last point and please keep it concise. And those three questions are whether there are any examples to ensure that governments or state agencies recognize the indigenous peoples and local communities right in carbon trading. So have you been able to get governments to recognize this so that if so, can you give an example that's one question. Another is beside the F, the F pick and the formal recognition of land tenure, what other aspects are there are crucial to guarantee a more equitable implementation of these kind of projects. And third is carbon credit presents the question around bundle of rights and it's not just indigenous people and local communities who have those rights so others shares that as well so how will this be managed. So, I would like to ask speakers to answer only one out of these three questions as their final comments before we close. And I'm going to do ladies first. So, Marisol, would you mind starting please very concisely and then we'll move on to Catherine, Marco and a levy for final thoughts. So I'd like to mention that we want specific results and that if we want to face climate change, we need to start by recognizing indigenous rights like any other rights and start recognizing their government and allowing them to be part of decision taking and only then we'll be able to create real nature based solutions, because we are the ones who know the actual solutions that have been transmitted generation through generation, taking care of nature is not just the responsibility for indigenous but a shared responsibility for humanity because every day we are generating carbon footprint and keeping our plans alive for the next generation is part of our responsibility. Great Catherine Catherine. Yes, just very briefly, I'll answer the first question with respect to carbon rights being recognized. And just sort of globally, there are, there are countries in which carbon rights have been explicitly recognized and defined in law. The vast majority of countries know that isn't the case but there are a few select countries. And then it's really a question of who is recognized as being the legal owners of those rights and I, we do have a few countries in which carbon rights are explicitly defined in the law and that that those rights to carbon can be tied to community land and forest ownership and those countries specifically are Brazil, Columbia, Costa Rica and Peru. So, those rights exist that then the question of course is whether or not they are in forest and whether or not they are respected. So, thank you. Great thanks for those examples. Marco. Perhaps as a closure, I would like to give a very specific idea. We need real commitment, not just from state but also from the civil society commitments regarding how we are going to compensate. The work that our communities have been carrying out for not just decade but always using their conception of Mother Earth. We know the realities and how to fight climate change and its effects. And from the basis of considering indigenous people as people with rights, we also need absolutely need the recognition of ownership and stewardship of the land by indigenous people. We need explicit recognition of indigenous peoples as being the historic owners of this land. Thank you so much, Marco. Levy, five thoughts and if you want to answer any of the questions as well. Thank you. La gobernanza de los pueblos indígenas. The power for indigenous peoples must be strengthened from the communities towards the government because our governments have very different conditions and the situation is also very different between countries. So the strengthening smarts come from the communities. The carbon market is strengthening some rights, but it's mostly making it clearly clear that we need to improve our rights. And I would like to close with a specific country with a specific question. Our seven axes have as an objective of improving the standards that haven't been achieved up until now and that we've been speaking about in this webinar. Thank you. Unfortunately, we have gone quite over time and thank you so much for your patience and staying with us and I do apologize that we were not able to get to all of the questions, but it's great to see all the discussions going on and the interest in this and I hope, you know this conversation will continue but we have to close the webinar. Really appreciate all the speakers and the panelists, and of course yourself the audience also for staying with us past the time. Can we give a virtual round of applause to our panelists and the speakers please. And of course, thank you also to our hosts, the Ford Foundation, the Land Portal Foundation, the tenure facility and the Thompson Races Foundation. It's been a real pleasure for me to moderate this event. Have a great day, afternoon, evening or night. Goodbye.


Alrighty, so we fought in our timeline, we fought in Trunks' timeline, and now I want some answers. And so does Zamasu, apparently. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the channel. I'm watching episode 58 of Dragon Ball Super today, and Zamasu has come to, I forget his name, the place with the guy where he knows like everything about anything, and he wants to know more about the Super Dragon Balls, I'm assuming, to accomplish more of this entire path he set out to accomplish, and the one that Future Trunks Supreme Kai has already accomplished. We're gonna hop right into it, drop us up if you're new, and let's get started. Ozuno. That's his name. Perfectly spherical. Is he not mad that Zamasu, like, hit his, like, front guard? Oh, so there's some in the sixth and sub- that's right. Why is he getting angry? He's telling him everything! He's telling you everything! Is he allowed to do this? Surely not. I mean, I guess he's Supreme Kai, or he's in training, too. Like, his word is final. The Divine Tongue. Which now I know is just English backwards. He's in carrots.  Can he tell him that? Or is he able to know? Yeah. Like, is there no way for him to know where they are? No, they won't help you for a summoning card too recently. Oh, too recently. Oh, shoot! And before they can be used again. I got a Geroge! It takes a year for you to be able to wish again? Over a year. Yeah, a year. Have patience. Oh. Is that the same Goku? That's the one! Oh my gosh, dude, Zamasu is just, like, quadrupling down. Since you beans can't taste good, right? I guess it's just a bean. Like, why don't someone just snacked on them for funsies? And Goku is positive. Brother, you aren't even close to ready. They took food but not sent to beans! Oh my gosh. Oh my god! At least Bulma keeps it a hunnit. Oh my gosh. Fighting a god too. I'm guessing first things first, they're gonna go to this Zamasu and question him. And they'll already see that he's on an evil path. Yeah, can any Kai be hurt? Oh, wait, really? Rose. There's no way he forgot. So Kai's aren't supposed to be invisible? I thought it was just, like, hand-in-hand. Yeah, you need to get stronger or figure something out. Ask the Kai. Think of what you imbecile. There's no way. Maybe we'll all become invincible too. Okay, Goku. You really, Jeff? Become invincible? I'll be the buffet of sense who beat him. Oh my, dude, you can't beat him, though. Even if you're invincible, it doesn't mean you can take him down. My, can we talk? There's something I have to tell you before I lose the chance. Wow, look out. Kid Mai, Trunks? I know it's, like, technically adult mind Mai, but Kid Mai? Turns out she survived. And I'm gonna stop those monsters and return the favor. Is he just telling this Mai that he'll make it up to her? How can you win?  See, this is what I said. Bring Supreme Kai in and talk to him. Ask questions. He tells us there's something he needs to say to him. Oh wait, he has something to tell you to say to Goku? Oh, maybe he knows something. Maybe he's caught on to, uh, Zamasu. There's such goofballs, man. Supreme Kai is so chill, man. Oh, Zuno told him what happened. He's like, I got shaken down. Mm-hmm. Beerus is probably just entertained by all this. He's like, yeah, it's pretty crazy. Oh, here we go. Come on, Goa-Su, you gotta figure something out. Oh, he's gone. Zamasu. All Goa-Su be doing is just drinking tea.  Sounds like a tasty flavor of ice cream. How do you get rid of a deity? An invincible deity. I could take that as a threat against me. You know the circumstances. Supreme Kai just sees this regular human just like phasing off against the destroyer. Now the black aren't the same being much alike. Mm-hmm. Two individuals could have similar energies by coincidence. No, it's not a coincidence. There's no way. Why research an opponent who bested him? Could he want that power for himself? Or want to be able to take down that power? Oh, he's back.  That's what I said.  Yeah, how did Goku figure it out faster than everyone else? He wishes for a just a copy of Goku and then uses him as like a weapon. Oh my gosh. I'm guessing that's what he- Okay, if that's how it goes down that then everything is cleared up and everything makes sense, right? He wants the power. I think he rides too, yeah. The thing is he could wish to just eliminate all mortals, but he wants to see them like killed and destroyed slowly and surely because he hates them. And he wants to just have someone do the dirty work for him. It's the most likely theory. Yeah. And then Zamasu just gives him his energy. Vegeta's like, why would he not ask for a double gamer of me? Like, that's crazy. Ah. Mm-hmm. No, because he's going on that path anyways. Then after Black is created, Zamasu will wait for another year. And then wish for what? He's had carrots! He's had carrots! Oh, he literally just wished for invincibility? Like, that's so busted! I know the Super Dragon Balls grant any wish, but that's busted! Then how do you defeat someone that's invincible? It's a seemingly unbeatable match, a duo. So did he ask for Goku Black to be drippy as hell? Yeah. Zuna told him to have patience. Maybe there's a piece of the puzzle we're missing. Oh my gosh! He just slips in and out of time! He just does it instantly! We have no time! He stole one for Black? Yeah, he's misbehaving. He's going to just yoink it. Oh, like he's physically not able to? Or he kills Goa, Sue? Oh, shoot! Oh, shoot! No way, that's what he just showed up to do! Oh my god, Goku! Probably. Why was the subtitle like that? I can't. I thought he was so sweet! Goku's stepping in! Yeah, it'll all fall into place like it has so far. I like how there is more to the puzzle still, though. Yeah, we gotta go check on him.  That's true. But he's planning on doing it. But he's gearing up for murder. Is Vegeta gonna go train? Oh, says you! Oh, Yajirobi! Oh my god, there's no way! Just slammed him into the ground! He didn't want to get on the bike. Oh my god, Yajirobi. He didn't make it, kiddo. Oh my god! Is she gonna lie to the people? Yeah, you know all about him, huh, Yajirobi? I mean, there's no way to lift spirits. We're like bottom of the barrel right now. You don't know Goku.  I don't blame these guys for being out of hope, though. I'm gonna be honest. Yes, ma'am! I mean, at least he's trying to keep morale. Oh, he's alive! Unless this isn't actually Goa-su. Wait. This is Zamasu. Wait! Because we saw him get back. And now he- if that is Zamasu, he's gonna know that they're after him, too. Which means they lose the upper hand.  Why does he talk about Zamasu like he's on a good path? Is he exact? No, you don't. They talk, but he's not even remotely agreeing with you ever. What?! Are you stupid?! But I have helped him understand- He's shown the exact opposite his entire time! He openly disagrees with you! Okay, no, that isn't how- he is just like chilling here. Oh my gosh. Dude, Goa-su is so frustrating, man. He's so naive for being a supreme Kai. Goa-su, I have brought your tea. He said it's clear, bro. Every time he's had the tea, it's been like a god-thing storm in a cup. Am I wrong for being so frustrated with him?  He's like, oh yeah, soul's perfectly clear. Anyways, I don't know where he's been for like three weeks. Also, he said a lot of worrying stuff about how he views mortals and we openly disagree and he's never agreed with me about anything. But no, I think he's really almost ready to become supreme Kai. Like, dude! The plot thickens, though, because not all the questions are answered. There's still a lot of mystery surrounding how Goa-ku black has a time ring and how he's able to use it. And the biggest question of them all is how do they defeat future Zamasu if he is invincible?   Like, there has to be some other piece of the puzzle here that we can use. Maybe the Super Dragon Balls to take him down. Guys, this has been episode 58 of our Dragon Ball Super Watch. Do drop us some of the channel if you're new. I'll catch you in the next one. Bye, space.


Ask you about two guys. One, Dylan Radins, just what you've seen from him so far as he finds his way in his rookie year. And is this the time to maybe see what he's all about? And then I'll get to the next one after that one. Yeah, how you doing, Jim? Yeah, Dylan is doing a great job. What you love about the guy is he's willing to do anything, whatever it takes. So already up to this point, he's played inside. He's played outside. And he'll go all day.  And as anything else, there's ups and downs and stuff like that. But he has a really cool ability to kind of power through, get to the next play, and just keep grinding. So I'm excited for what he's done so far. And he's got a long way to go. But I think I would say he's on the right track at this point. And then the others about Adam Kuhn. And I know a lot of his work is probably going to be technique work. Where do you start with a guy like that who hasn't played since he was in high school? And I guess it's probably going to take patience from everybody just to kind of see what he's all about. Yeah, I mean, Adam, that's a great point. And you kind of sit back and you ask yourself, OK, who are the players that what ingredients do they have outside of technique that have a chance to make it? And Adam checks all those boxes. He's athletic.   He's smart, all those things. So yeah, the challenge is, OK, well, he's got all those really important characteristics outside of football. Well, let's go see how far we can take him from a technique standpoint and understanding standpoint. Really, I mean, he's starting from scratch, man. How you read a playbook to how you get in a stance and all that stuff. So I'm excited. He's the right guy for the job in the sense that he's going to work his butt off, too. And he's going to just keep coming back for more. And it will kind of be fun to see how far he can take it. Taran? It was our coach, Keith. Getting back to Radence, he's a very analytical guy. So for you, what's the key?  Yeah, that's a great question. And I think one thing is we just keep reminding him, like there's no, from a technique standpoint, we are always going to strive to play with great technique. But at some point, you've got to take all that out of it and see a picture, make a decision, and play as fast and as violent as humanly possible. And I think the more we drill him that way, the more we rep him that way, and the more he trusts us that, hey, if you give us the right effort and the right finish, we'll coach the technique on the run. But you have to capture our style of play first. And it's not that he doesn't play hard, but it's like you're saying, it's kind of giving himself permission that, like, hey, man, nobody's saying you have to take the perfect first step. We want you to take a good first step, but there's an element of, hey, get the attitude and the aggressiveness right, and then the rest will kind of fall in the line.  Yeah, that's a good question. I think Nate's taking some really big strides and we're all super proud of him in the sense that every year in the National Football League, he has become what we would call a better and better pro. And I don't mean necessarily what you see on the field. I'm just talking about his preparation. I'm talking about his off-season routine, all those types of things. He's starting to figure this thing out. And so it's fun to kind of watch him grow and take this and treat it as not just a game, but a job where you have to put everything into it. And he's done a really nice job with that. And I think on the field that that next step comes down to consistency. I think, you know, when Nate can be, when you see Nate at his best, I think he's a dang good football player and figuring out as we all have to, you know, the best pros are able to be really good on a consistent basis. So I think that's gonna be his next step. Teresa. Keith, how much does it help Raiden's and these young guys to have this off-season program, which you didn't have last year?  Yeah, I mean, I think it's, you know, I just think it's so critical. And I'm just thankful myself to, for us to be out on the field and get some work in. I think it's, you know, like you look at Dylan and he's got to learn from Ben Jones and Dylan and obviously our coaching staff and stuff like that.  And so, you know, he not only is able to kind of pick their brains and figure out, okay, this is, I need to steal this from this guy, this from this guy and all that stuff, but then he gets to go apply it and see a defense and make a call and do all those really quick decisions that are super important. So I think for all the rookies around the league, I think this time is super important. And I think they're gonna all benefit from it greatly. All right, David, go for it. Keith, you seemingly have options at right tackle. What's sort of the balance between giving everybody a good look and settling on five guys to work together up front there and, you know, kind of when do you wanna make that decision? Yeah, that's a great question. And, you know, I don't think that, you know, first and foremost, that decision, you know, is will be made by Braves and John. And obviously, you know, our input will help. But, you know, I think that those decisions can't be made until a fall camp, you know. And, you know, our off-season program is great and we're able to drill and do all those things, but we just don't have any full speed live team reps to truly evaluate these guys. But, you know, it's a unique situation. We have several guys that have playing experience on game day, on Sundays, and then obviously Dylan coming in as a rookie and see where he fits in that picture, it's exciting. So, but I don't think, you know, there's been no decisions, you know, made or anything like that. And Braves can speak to this better than I can, but there's been no decisions. It's gonna come down the fall camp and let that, you know, see how that journey goes for each one of them. Ben, Arthur?  And, you know, there's definitely a good chance he'll be getting a lot of looks on the right side. I know you mentioned that he's doing inside in, out, and he's kind of looked great so far, but what are some of the, I guess, what kind of goes into like bringing in a guy who's played, you know, just left tackle and teaching him, you know, kind of the techniques, the footwork on the right side. Like what are kind of the challenges that come with making that transition for a player? Yeah, you know, I think a lot of it is, it's getting them comfortable. So I know it's a, you know, pretty generic answer, but it's really just getting them a bunch of reps in both stances and getting them comfortable. And, you know, it's probably not as extreme as a baseball player who's able to, you know, bat right and left-handed. I don't think it's probably that extreme, but I think there's some parallels there where, you know, the guys that do it really well, I'm not so sure they feel much difference in a left stance compared to a right stance, and whether they're on the back side, and whether they're down blocking or base blocking or whatever, they find a way to make it all kind of feel normal and about the same. And I think the only way to do that is just to continue to rep them, continue to drill them, and, you know, just simple stuff, you know, just the basics. I mean, just after practice working some, just simple pass that footwork drills and stuff like that, just so we can feel that balance and feel that body posture that we're looking for, that maybe is natural on the left side, but not the right side. Emily Crop? Hey, Adam. As close as you can get to the camera, it shows your face better. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. No, you're good, you're good. I've just got another question about Adam Kuhn again. I'm curious, have you ever worked with an NFL player who hasn't played football since high school and can his, you know, kind of fresh perspective and that focus on fundamentals and technique help some of the guys around him? Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm trying to think. I don't know that I remember one year we, this is a different team, but we drafted a guy from D-Line as an offensive lineman and that was, at least he was in football and had a general understanding, but that really was kind of similar in the sense of, you know, starting over from a stance and all that. But, you know, I think what it does for us as coaches is it brings us back to, you know, those days when we coached college football and stuff like that and you're getting it, you're getting an 18 year old kid coming in maybe their offense in high school, they didn't even get in a three point stance or didn't get in a two point stance or they only ran the ball or whatever it was and you have to try and teach them to be balanced and start all over, just figuring out a stance on how to not only, you know, run block but pass block and be able to do both. So it kind of brings you back, you know, in my mind, I'm sitting there racking through like all these drills we used to do with high school camps and stuff like that, just to kind of get the basics down and it's kind of been refreshing and, you know, brings back some pretty good memories. John Bonner. Hey Keith, I'm coming in from the other side so I'm sorry to be redundant here but I wonder if you could speak a little bit about Dylan's transition, you know, from a smaller school level to the NFL, how's that going and does that typically, you know, take a little bit longer for a guy from that level to make the change? Well, I think that, you know, I think from the, you know, the playbook standpoint and all that stuff, no, I don't think that transition is, you know, they do a really nice job at North Dakota State and they've, you know, they've won a lot of games there and football, they take football serious and all that stuff. I think that, you know, I think every person's a little different where what I was saying earlier with Dylan, which what's really cool is, you know, you can definitely tell it's, you know, the moment's not too big for him and he just is, you know, he will go all day and there's gonna be good plays and bad plays but there's no quitting him, there's no give up, there's no, you can't keep this guy down, he just keeps coming back for more and I think when you have that mentality it really helps to transition regardless of whether you're small school or big school but just coming from college to professional football and, you know, he's got the ability to kind of just keep going and there's no quitting the guy. So that's been, I would say, you know, probably the funnest part working with him so far. And just on Adam, I came in at the end of your comment on Adam, but, you know, how much, you know, he's so clearly, you know, on a different level from other guys, how challenging is that for you, you know, a completely different set of, you know, teaching skills that you have to bring, I guess, for someone like him as opposed to the every other lineman in the room. Yeah, I mean, like I was saying before, it's kind of fun and refreshing because it's literally like, you know, we all of our coaching backgrounds we certainly didn't start in the NFL. So it reminds me of coaching high school football camps and, you know, when we were working college and doing all those college circuits, man, and getting guys lined up and, hey, you know, basically a box or a grid and just working on their stance in their first step. So it's kind of fun.  And we always come back to the basics with our other guys too, but not, you know, maybe not necessarily to step one A, like we have to with Adam. So it's been fun and, you know, he's handled it well too. Thank you. Last two, Terry. Keith, when you get Taylor LeWine back in the fold, how much will that kind of change, you know, the ability to single block and do more of the things maybe in past protection that you had set to do at the outset last year but had to adjust because of his injury?  But yeah, it gives you a peace of mind that, you know, we have a lot of obviously respect for Taylor and we have really high expectations for him that, hey, you know, you're not, we need you to win over there and you're not, we'll give you help, but it won't be as often as some of these other guys. And so it allows you to kind of spread the love to other places like you're saying. So I think that, you know, Taylor would expect that and that's certainly our expectation to him. So we're, you know, excited to get him back. Trisa, can you squeeze in one more? I'll try to keep it tight. Keith, you've got so many guys coming back new year but you also have Derek coming back. Is it a thought of trying to continue some momentum over the last couple of years of him leading the league and rushing and or just building on this great season that you all had last year? I mean, the sacks were down, the yards rushing were up, obviously. What's the thought process of trying to build on that right now?   So our goal is to remember the lessons we've learned over the past several years so that we can use those to, you know, not make the same mistakes and, you know, carry with us a little bit of that confidence that we've had in the past. But at the end of the day, our mindset is to rework, re-earn everything that we get. And so we try to use the past as a learning tool and after that, we try to forget it and start over. I just think you have to do that to stay on top of your game and to stay at your best. You know, you can't spend too much time thinking about the years before.


And good morning. We are en route at a 25 first. At least we've ever set off Yeah, yeah, like dad said to my dash. We've got to where get to the extension job Because the robbies are gonna pick up the steel since they won't fit in our van So they've gonna go pick that up. We're gonna help them just get a pop onto the wall just ready for Monday and We've listed of a stone from the Concruising job that we did we're gonna tip that in the in the front bit for backfilling We're gonna dash to that Concrete job pick up the mixer toss it in the van because We're not going back there until Yeah, so Wednesday, so we're gonna make ourselves busy at the extension job get it finished on Monday, and then we've got a little job to do and then that so Reason why we're dashing so much is that we're off today We're a we'll give you more details in a bit, but Actually And there you go, it's still standing. It's always a good sign. So yeah Scaffold's already as you know bricks run it and such so we've brought the extra scaffold from home to get set up over there That way we can get these steel set up because obviously we need to Get them on the wall ideally so that when we come back on Monday, which is when we're back from everything we can just Get him set then get the brick working. It's literally just then steels and five course of brick on top. So We shouldn't take too long There's only one It's not a jinx fate to Well, yeah, but when the robbies arrived we're gonna get that done. So right now scaffold stones just to go in here and We're out of here They go the robbs We've been really stuck without them lads Yeah, ten quiff Maldi absolutely fantastic. So there you go Bit of a pain having all the bricks in the way, but we've managed it steels are both up That's the short one and there's the long one Very heavy, but we managed quite well with four of us actually now this It's gonna lift this up a bit little bit because we just need to get a return We're gonna run this side and we're gonna return around here And so we're just gonna lift this up So yeah There's a good view of it Always nice to see the little going on so Yeah, they're steels with the plates weld underneath so you've got the air brick where it goes on the outside There you got the steel on the inside great job So we're back Monday After our little adventure down to London We're going to Camden to a Lara Croft experience tonight, then we're doing Thorpe Park tomorrow Friday, yeah tomorrow, and then we're doing Legoland Saturday underneath mate. We're gonna lift it up So we'll leave you there and we'll see you Monday and we're back on the extension job after a eventful weekend in London but Back to work. So As you saw last time over here, the Robbie's helped us get these steels up. So they're all set up ready and They just need to get bedded on and then we're going to get the five courses along the front So a little update It's definitely a Monday morning start. We've got the vents, didn't we? So that's just going to go get the vents now and And get some buckets because I don't have buckets either We're not with it this morning, but That's going to go get them. So while while I'm waiting We've got the customer to move the cars a sec because I'm going to get the cuts we need so I'm just gonna get say now It's gonna get them one two three then three cut over there and then four and five So they need to be cut Accordingly and to the size of the steel so that the blocks can just get laid above as normal And obviously these just need to get cut to level off with that. So Five cuts in total Shouldn't take too long a cut. Tell you what I don't get how you've done done without it for so long That's the cuts done now. It's just waiting for dad.  I really don't think that's long enough Anyway, yeah, because we've got five course. I'm gonna put a tray on and when you when you put a tray on you need Wheat vents which guest spot we left them in the garage. Oh, well, that was already told you so anyway, that's back So we've got to bed the steels on Lines up and we can get this brickwork whacked up Basically, it's all straightforward now. We're organized. It's 20 to 10.  Let's get some water there and let's get cracking Right off 11. I'll spin you around and you'll see Alice just putting the final touches on that five courses Give me a tidy up It's gonna get it's been jointed. It's gonna get a brush We've just got to run the blocker on the back of the steel on top of that cavity tray that we've put in They've got double insulation in the web of the steel. So that's all insulated I'm gonna drop this tower here on the corner because we don't need it now because we'll get the return on the trestles and That's it That side will be done ready for lunch So it's gonna be a long day because we've got to not get the other side in yet and all the block paving But we have lost probably an hour this morning. We haven't to go back to get the The week events that people keep commenting saying we don't put week events in We events in tie-wise Alex Me that car's looking low isn't it? Yeah, that's right. That's yours. There you go. There's a little inside view At the steel with the block work over Just come back from dinner. It's probably it's probably where the latest today. So we've just got a bed this end on and As you notice we drive on to it and you look close You'll see Marked each one. There you go. So we can get cracking on this now roll the trail bed the trail And then it's gonna be up stand here. I don't know what we're gonna do at the back here I'll have to just nail it But It's only got four five course above it anyway, but put a bit of silicon over just for safety It's just belt braces And then what we did on the back there was lapped it up Half on half off so the the motors bonding onto the steel half onto the tray put the tray right across It's just a weak spot for one course of block, which you don't want So we're all set up mix his own Just need Alex up here. We can crack on Do what oh Yeah, it's full of bricks now, so need to take bricks off And look at your watches no watch there Anyway, there you go Job complete ish Yeah, that bit's finished but the Patch in the block payment up isn't obviously because there's vessels in the way We're gonna tidy up as much stuff was as we can in the van We've got a pile of water there that we're gonna use up to see how far it gets us And then we've got to come back anyway because we've got loads of stuff to get in the van So when we come back We'll just make me bring bring a bit more stone mix a bit more water and put in what we haven't done today Hopefully we'll get plenty done today, but we'll see and also we need to get the bricks off the drive Get the drive cleared and brushed up So Alex can be doing that while I'm putting these papers in but first thing is mixer in the van Trestles and planks in the van Scaffolding the van the poor van Yeah, so there's a quick look. I'll give you a proper walk around and all the scaffolds out the way hints all tidy


Welcome back to my channel and welcome if you're new here. My name is Jen and I am the Certified Weight Loss and Nutrition Coach and I am on the WW Weight Watchers Blue Plan. Today I have a very exciting announcement for you. I have been coming at you with the exciting news. First I introduced my nutrition coaching and today I am introducing my brand new YouTube channel that goes hand in hand with my weight loss and nutrition coaching certification. So today I'm gonna talk to you a little bit about why I decided to start a second YouTube channel, what that channel is all about and why you should go over and join me over on the Jen Clayton Nutrition Channel in addition to Jen's WW journey. So today I am going to share with you why I decided to start a second channel and what kind of content you should be expecting moving forward on this channel and what you should look forward to on my new channel. And of course I'd love it if you would take a moment and go subscribe to my new YouTube channel and I'm going to link it down in the description box below and if you're not already subscribed to this channel make sure you're subscribed and your bell notification is turned on so you don't miss a single video. I am continuing to upload very regularly on this channel lots of WW content, lots of fun content in general. We'll talk all about that today so make sure that you are subscribed. Check out that description box down below where again you're going to find the link for my brand new YouTube channel as well as my website for nutrition and weight loss coaching. Like I've said it's really important that everybody knows a little bit about their macros. Calories, macros, how to kind of distribute your WW points. So I highly recommend if at very least you take advantage of my personalized macro calorie and points calculation. There are several other options available to you as far as weight loss and nutrition coaching. So check out my website down in the description box. You're also going to find links and discount codes to all of my favorite things as well as the link to head over and join my Facebook group Jen's WW tribe. We'd love to have you be part of our community over there. So take advantage of all the goodness in the description box. Thumbs up this video if you are excited about what I have to share with you today and let's jump in. The secondary YouTube channel. The title of my channel is Jen Clayton Nutrition. It goes hand in hand with my weight loss and nutrition coaching website. And it just signifies exactly what that channel is going to be about. And that is weight loss and nutrition. So before we move into why I started this new channel and the content you should expect to see over there, let's talk a little bit about what you're going to see here on Jen's WW journey. So first and foremost, I wanna put it right out there that I am not quitting WW. I am still on the blue plan. I am still double tracking both my calories and points. I have some fantastic videos coming your way kind of day in the life, what I eat in a week, that type of thing. I know you guys really like those where I'm going to share with you exactly how I do the double tracking and how I make sure that I am within my points and still meeting my caloric goal to keep my metabolism revved and going. That is extremely important to me. And I found, like I've mentioned in several videos, I'm going to link the playlist for my points versus calories series down below for you guys. I have noticed that depending on the foods that you're choosing on WW, you can grossly under eat what you should be calorically wise. So I wanted to share that information with you, the knowledge, the research that I did prior to even receiving my certification on why it's important to make sure that you're reaching your calories on WW. So I wanna continue to bring that type of content to you. I am not changing my upload schedule. You are still going to see meal prep on Mondays, of what I eat in a day on Wednesdays. Of course, my weekly weigh-in and car chat on the WW topic and grocery haul on Saturday. My goal is to upload one additional video per week, whether that be on Tuesday, Thursday or Sunday, to continue to bring you at least five videos per week. One additional video that may be just something fun and different. Lately I've been sharing some fun products reviews and taste tests or maybe just an educational video on WW or on nutrition in general. So that is my plan moving forward, continuing on WW and continuing with my regular upload schedule of five videos per week. Right now I am uploading six videos a week, but because I'm going to be also uploading regularly on my new channel, I'm going to make it five videos a week. Now don't get me wrong, there may be some weeks where I have six videos. I may just have a lot of fun things to share with you guys. I am also planning on doing Vlogmas, which would mean that I would be uploading every day in the month of December. Lots of day in the life vlogs and then of course just my regular videos. So don't panic and think that the content on this channel is changing because it is not. I greatly, greatly appreciate you guys. A lot of you have been with me since the very beginning of my channel and I certainly don't want to change anything here on Jen's WW journey because I love this channel. It is my baby, it's my pride and joy. So you will continue to see the content that I have been putting out moving forward. My goal is to also introduce some additional recipe videos because I know you guys really like those, but what you will see change here on Jen's WW journey is I won't be uploading as many tips and tricks videos. I've been sharing a lot of things like the 21 weight loss hacks that actually work and six simple tips that you can do to lose weight. Those types of videos will now transition over to my second channel, Jen Clayton Nutrition. They just go hand in hand with sharing about weight loss and nutrition. That's the type of content that I want to move over to that channel. So why did I start a second channel? Well, like I mentioned, this channel is WW focused and as you know, I've been double tracking both calories and points. I really became interested in nutrition about six months ago where I started my clean approach to the program, really paying attention to ingredients and macronutrients and it just spurred my passion for weight loss and nutrition and that's what prompted me to move forward with getting my certification. Now that I have that, I think it is important to have a channel strictly dedicated to weight loss and nutrition coaching. Those tips and tricks, the 21 weight loss hacks, the six easy tips to lose weight, 10 ways to get in your water every day. Those types of videos really mesh well with the nutrition side of things. Yes, they go great with WW, but they fit even better into the puzzle of nutrition. So that's why I decided to start a second channel to really focus on weight loss and nutrition tips and tricks as well as maybe some different style of what I eat in a day. It's like, what does a weight loss and nutrition coach eat in a day? Really focus more on nutrition and weight loss and not on WW. Now, will I mention WW of course? Will I be showing WW points? Probably not. I'm going to focus more on the nutrition and weight loss side. For you, this is great. You have the WW side here on Jen's WW journey and then you get that really in-depth weight loss and nutrition side over on Jen Clayton Nutrition. So please do me a huge favor and make sure that you subscribe to my new channel. I'd love for it to grow and be as successful as this one. And like I said, you get double the information for free by being part of both channels. Of course, I'll throw in some other fun and exciting videos along the way as well, but I'm going to really focus on the weight loss aspect and nutrition aspect. I'm also really excited to announce that I have a mental health professional that's also going to be making appearances over on the Jen Clayton Nutrition website where she is going to be in videos with me or take part in videos where she shares the mental side, the mental part of weight loss, which is so incredibly important. I am not a mental health professional. So I can give you tips and tricks that have worked for me or maybe research that I've done, but she is a mental health professional. So the information she shares with you is coming from a place of knowledge, professionalism and the career that she's chosen. So I am really excited to have her be part of the Jen Clayton Nutrition YouTube channel as well. So you definitely don't want to miss out on her and her advice and her tips and tricks for the mental side of weight loss. So again, I hope you are as excited as I am about this change. I'm happy that I'm going to keep the WW channel the exact same way. And then I'm just able to bring you a second source of information, which knowledge is powered. The more you can learn, the better. Whether you're on WW or not, the information shared on the Jen Clayton Nutrition website is absolutely relevant to weight loss and nutrition in general. So definitely head over and subscribe. Once you are subscribed to the channel, leave me a comment. Let me know you came over from Jen's WW journey. I'm so excited to have a second platform to share knowledge and information and tips and tricks just a lot of fun with you when it comes to weight loss and nutrition. So on that note, thank you so much as always for being such a lovely part of my day. And I love having you in my amazing community. I'm so blessed and fortunate to have this YouTube channel that I'm excited to share that in a second channel with you guys. So I would really appreciate your support, your love in heading over and joining me on my new channel. Stay tuned for videos to be uploaded immediately on that channel. I am starting to really focus on what type of content I wanna put out, get those filmed, edited and uploaded. So go over and subscribe as soon as possible so you don't miss out. Thank you guys again, as always for your love and your support for my current channel as well as my new channel. And thank you for sharing in my excitement about my weight loss and nutrition certification. Seriously, I was into years when I saw all of your responses to me obtaining my certification. It seriously means the world to me. So thank you guys. I love you so much and I can't wait to see you over. I'm Jen Clayton, nutrition. Have a great day, my friends. And of course, I'll see you in my next video. Bye.