Good day Ray. Oh, how are you? Pretty good. Yep. Pretty good. Is my audio coming through well enough? Yes. Thanks. Good day Brandon, Matt, Dan. Hello. Hello. Brandon, are you aware of the tracking issues where we said we would go through five assessments before we made it official? Yeah, let me put it up for a second. By the way, Matthew, thanks so much for helping to facilitate the meetings. If you want to take a break from it, I can facilitate some meetings as well, if you'd like. Thank you, Brandon. I'm happy to continue to do so so long as it's they're helpful when they're getting something done. If we feel it'd be better to sort of rotate it just so people see more than one face all the time. I'm happy to do that too. We'll just rotate every week or flip a coin at random based on who's free and that works fine by me either which way. I'd love to see someone else besides just myself come through and kind of ratify some of the facilitation process that you put in place. It's great to continue on. I'd love to see Brandon or someone else come in, go through the process, get feedback and kind of do some some better work there. Maybe I can prioritize this week now that we've got Harbor out the door or landing the facilitator guidelines and we can choose a meeting in the future that I mean, Brandon, it's good time for Brandon. I should put together the facilitator guidelines. I recall now it meant to put together a forward post and put that in the documentation still haven't done it. Actually, I'll supplement that, Dan. So if we have light for more an embedded security background and bit of pentesting that sort of stuff, if someone were to say do more than say facilitating but be able to provide some answers to the actual real questions, are there different meetings or leadership meetings or just reviews one should take part in so that rather than guide, you know, the facilitator or guide the meeting by a sort of a formula, actually have concrete answers to actual security slash leadership questions. What does one do take part in security reviews? Join some additional separate meetings that are destroyed from this or what's the way forward with that? So there are three other sort of primary workflows. The co-chairs meet regularly when everybody's healthy and available. We usually have a weekly cadence and we'll meet either Sunday evening or Monday evening and sort of coordinate at a high level and work towards any of our sort of longer term goals. Then the co-chairs and the tech leads just started last Wednesday, a bi-weekly meeting amongst ourselves and then there are the individual assessment flows. The formalization of our tech leads is, you know, something that just recently happened. So I think what the opportunity, you know, to sort of expand from, you know, those sort of existing pillars towards, you know, new activity streams would be if any of the chairs or the tech leads wanted to, you know, set up a breakout and, you know, Brandon's probably the best person to partner with on this and maybe go through, do some issue triage and, you know, work on that. You know, that's an area of need. There's no formal definition around that yet. It's largely been, you know, the tech leads stepping in and, you know, taking care of it and, you know, the co-chairs ratifying things and proposing things.  Now, that's a great opportunity right there. I reached out to you specifically or Brandon, for example. I was thinking I could just reach out via Slack after this meeting and this resonates with the question another attendee had just the other week and that was how do we sort of join in, like, for example, on a review, even if we're just an observer so that way we can sort of learn at the first time and not ask silly questions or slow down other people by treating it like an academic training exercise rather than what it is a security review. Should I just reach out via Slack and take it from there? Just to get like the meeting invites, which ones are appropriate for me to join that sort of thing? Yeah, I would say also, like, I feel like we initially started kind of, the initial idea was most of the communication would be in the issue seven cells, but it seems like over the course of the past year, there seems to be like a huge explosion of the number of issues. So it's becoming a bit difficult to track. I mean, a ton of people have different ideas and stuff like that. So yeah, maybe it sounds like, like, like we can do some maybe have a label on certain assessments. Yeah.   You know, it's an open opportunity that I feel like we're iterating towards, but we definitely don't have, you know, sort of shared understanding of, you know, how it works and how it should work really important. Gotcha. Well, at the very least, I'll definitely be reaching out to both of you via Slack afterwards to see you up again. All right. So I think we have enough time for everyone to help on board with that critical mass. I'm just going to quickly go through the attendance and I'll just paste the attendance link here in the chats in case people that joined after I first pasted it did not see it. But there you can go in and put your name and there's instructions above. If there are any new attendees that haven't been on one of these calls before, please feel free to just put that in brackets beside your name and later on we'll open up a window for new attendees to introduce themselves. Okay. In terms of what we have here. You know what? I'll go through the new attendees at the end just because I see a lot of names popping up here. We'll go through SIGs first. Actually, first, I don't know why I always delays each time scribes. Is there anyone that would like to volunteer to be scribes or meeting minute takers for today? I think there's an update from a few people. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to go with the Wallace Loffers since there's a SIG recommendation there and then just go through the rest in the order in which I see them. Okay. Oh, sorry, please go ahead. So, yesterday at the TOC meeting, it kind of changed a lot because there was a new sandbox proposal, which is kind of like another matter. And so I'm bringing it up partially because I have stuck at this because I proposed Kiko. I want to kind of like take a sound aside the new sandbox proposal because, okay, let's assume for this proposal that I change submission of Kiko from sandbox to incubation and then the change of the process doesn't apply. But in general, there is this requirement or strong suggestion to obtain a recommendation from SIGS when you apply to CNCF. I know the struggle because like SIG security, there is a certain bandwidth limitation to the proper project assessments and you do need to prioritize current CNCF projects while there is a steady flow of the requests on top of them. So it's pretty much hard to do a proper assessment for anyone asking because they want to be considered for CNCF, which is kind of where Kiklog has been. So I kind of wonder like what does the SIG recommendation for TOC really mean? Is it mean because I made like a proper security assessment for Kiklog request with all the write-up and so on. But at the same time, there is nothing written there that that's exactly what this meant. And so I know it's bandwidth wise, it's hard to expect SIG security right now to do a proper assessment. At the same time, being realistic, is there any process towards actually having the recommendation and some software review or not? I'm kind of both asking for myself and stating the problem in general. Like it's not only about Kiklog, but it would be good for me to have an answer. Great. So let me separate a bit the sandbox proposal changes and Kiklog. Kiklog, DEX, and a couple other projects are in our queue. I've unfortunately, both of my co-chairs, Sarah Allen, is sick and JJ is stuck in India. So kind of at the top of the food chain, I have a bit of a leadership and bandwidth organizational challenge right now. So getting through that and I apologize for any delays that's created on your end. Brandon was with the new proposal, proposing that we potentially lighten up how we approach folks going into sandbox and make that much more of a self-assessment, less of a guided process. We have kind of one core well-oiled process with the security assessment, which is a different workflow, different concept than what you'll get with a formal security organization. We're not going through and going to provide you with penetration tests and all of the artifacts that you would get from a paid $20,000 investment into getting a proper security assessment. What we provide is in a community of experts, we help you prepare in your journey through the CNCF to sort of partner, coordinate with all the other projects, and make sure that you have clear talking points and coordination points around your security parameters. So our security assessment is a bit of a different beast that has a similarly named referring to it, but having gone through and work with a number of projects, including security products, everyone's come through the security assessment journey and been wow, that was a journey, but also feeling way more prepared to address all of the concerns. That's my high-level thoughts on that. My blocker right now is really scheduling and getting you all into the hopper, and once we start the process, it's fairly labor-intensive, but we do have a well-established process that we'll guide you through, and a number of team members that are happy to sort of step in. So you're located at the top right now. That was not my question, so I do understand the current. I was looking at the current assessment process, and I did the proper application. I was looking at the previous one, so I do understand the difference between assessment and the output, and I'm kind of like, what's the security approach here? And I think that's a good approach. My question is, okay, say a project applies to incubation, let's not mess up with sound box right now. So, and TOC wants, okay, we want Six Security recommendation for this project. Does recommendation from Six Security actually involves making a proper security assessment according to Six Security assessment process, or is a review for recommendation a lighter one? Yes. By default, it's an assessment. You would have to really convince one of the chairs that, one, we have sufficient context to accurately and fully communicate due diligence, and, you know, so, you know, the assessment process really serves as our indoctrination, and, you know, the best way that we currently have to work with you and distribute, you know, workload, and come to a shared understanding decision. Yeah, I want to add one more thing to this, which is that really, Zoom is having a lot of problems as I've been complaining about on the security and tech lead, so hopefully we can move to different conferencing in the future. But anyway, the thing I was going to say is that oftentimes the project gets a lot out of the assessment by going through the process with us, which can in some cases be things that we don't necessarily point out. So it's almost like, you know, you hear of the people that say, well, I went to the psychologist and they didn't really help me. All they did was have me talk, and then I helped myself. And, you know, so there is an aspect of that to it, too, where it's something where the process of you going through a process about reasoning about the things you have to to give us that information has, in many cases, caused projects to find serious security issues in things they're doing. Just to clear out, yeah, I totally recognize it. Like, even without getting to CNCF, I would love to get your assessment, well, assessment from security for the project. So I see all the values. What I'm raising is purely a process or bandwidth issue. So my concern is essentially following catch 22 situation, where to move forward with incubation process, let's say, I'm being asked by TOC to get a recommendation from security, which is a security assessment. But then six security having a bandwidth capabilities, like it has, will struggle to actually process the assessment because there will be more priority, higher priority projects in the queue. I don't current situation is special with COVID, no, no, no, deny, like, we just need to go past that. But in general, like, you know, when few projects apply, while you still have a backlog of our CNCF projects, which are higher importance, wouldn't it not put the new projects in a block position? If we run into that situation, then that's a situation that we'll have to deal with. We're not in that situation now, for sure. We had Harvard come along. I think they were the most recent project to do a self assessment. And they just powered through and completed everything. And, you know, we did an assessment of them in quite quick order. The projects that you might see in a queue, if you look online, a lot of those projects are have had situations where, for instance, they were very actively doing things. And then, you know, COVID hit and everybody started to do social distancing. And the person who was working on it all of a sudden had different priorities. And basically said, like, hey, from the project side, we can't do anything. I'm not aware of a project that is like waiting on us to do anything at this point. I think that was like, so Kiko, initially, we started this process. And then there was a there was this change in the TOC's view on Kiko initially as a sandbox. So I think we had a team together, then we decided to move the focus to, I think it was like a spiffy spire or cargo studio or something like that. Yeah, but then I think the thing was now with there was kind of like an influx of new projects. And then there was it wasn't quite clearly, to me, which projects were requested by the TOC to be reviewed by us. So I think there was kind of like a bit of miscommunication or these like delayed communication around that. Yeah, I think I think you answered my question. You know, I applied. I created the submission I think a month ago with the whole self assessment write up. I'm not complaining because I know the current struggle. So, you know, I'll patient the weight. It's a bit exceptional, but I'm just kind of like raising the concern. Is it the proper approach? Okay, so with the new processes and absolutely ping ping us ping me on on slack add something to the issue itself. If you're waiting on us and the TOC has approved it, then that's our fault. But my understanding is that that generally isn't the case. Yeah, there is a bit of, you know, I was, I recognize there was a bit of uncertainty. Like, are you supposed to come to COC with recommendation? Or do I need to come to TOC and one of I need to have like at least one sponsor and then this sposo sponsor needs to go to you kind of like, okay, please take a look at this project. If that's the case that, yeah, maybe I should take us to back and get someone from TOC to we approach you that, you know, people should be investigated. Because I kind of like went all in, I created issue there, I created, well, I created request there and I created request with security. So maybe that's the miscommunication and misunderstanding. Oh, good.   I can. Cool. Great. Well, I have to, you know, triage, you know, keep closed decks and I think one more project in terms of, you know, what we begin to slot in and, you know, honestly showing up at meetings and advocating for your project and beginning to coordinate with our assessment leaders is the best way for me to, you know, to push that forward. So, you know, thank you for showing up. Thank you for, you know, sharing your experience and your concerns.  Thanks for sharing this. Okay. Thank you. We'll move on to the next 10 D with an update here and I believe that's Brandon. Good day, Brandon. Again. Hey, yeah, what I want to talk about is kind of where they kind of talked about it. But I created a PR to put on the read me page some indication of how do I go about submitting a request for sick review. But given that things have changed over the past two days, I think I probably have to review the band and we have to discuss it to really figure out how we want that process to be. Okay. Thank you, Brandon. I'd also like to say that if we are moving ahead with key cloak, now that I'm like I see the issue, I'm looking at the issue here, we desperately need folks to volunteer to be security reviewers for key cloak. So I will post the issue in our Slack right now, in our Slack channel, but I would greatly appreciate people reaching out and saying, yes, I can participate in this. You don't have to have done an assessment before to participate. But if you might be tapped to be the lead security reviewer, then you would have had to have done a prior assessment. So please volunteer. It's a good way to get some experience doing something that is obviously a really important part of our community and a really important part of judging the security of products and projects everywhere. If the opportunity permits, could you please copy paste a hot link from Slack into the Zoom chat here just so people want to go straight to the, let's say, if you start a new thread on it, get a hot link to the thread, people can jump onto that from a link in the chat. Awesome. Thank you. I can't. I'm called in, unfortunately. Okay. I see one there. I believe Krishan Sharma provided one. Thank you, Krishan. Yeah, sure. I'm also trying to log in and trying to contribute, so it would be good for Steph for me as well. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. In that case, I'll move on to the next item. Let's see. Brandon, no update, no update, no update. We have Justin Capos. Were you able to get in through Zoom or did they blacklist you for number 376? I don't really know what the problem is. Honestly, I registered Zoom SUPs as my username and some other things like that, but this same ID and everything works on every other Zoom call I get randomly invited to, which I get invited to them, I don't know, a couple times a day. So I don't really know why, but for the last two weeks, I've been unable to dial in. I am not installing and have never installed and will not install the Zoom client due to all the security issues and oversight they've had. And the error method seems to indicate there's some problem with the client, which is strange because it's obviously not installed. So I don't know what's going on, but I would, I had brought up the issue weeks ago, and there'd been a lot of, I think, positive mentions that we should maybe move away from Zoom. And I'd like to just renew that now that I am able to actually, in some limited form, be able to call in, but it's unfortunate not being able to see who's speaking or any, you know, or things like that, which I feel is a big hindrance. Right. Amy, have you first asked? I'm sorry about that, Nancy. Amy, have you had to reconfigure any of the sort of convenience links? No, you all are exactly as you were. So I'm not really sure why that's actually going on, but I see questions in chat about alternatives to Zoom. So happy to be able to hear. Right. Yeah, I mean, you know, getting, getting to the alternative and working through all the issues, you know, I'm happy to have that be, you know, longer running workflow.  So, you know, Justin, I think, you know, including a link to the, you know, web client and, you know, maybe a note as to why we recommend the web client, you know, will be great.  So, you know, we can test it out at any point. I believe that, you know, it'll automatically get recorded and posted to YouTube when we do. So, there's that. But, you know, Justin, if you have time and want to test things out, I'm happy to hop on sometime later this week. Okay. Yeah, maybe we'll do that and try to see if we can figure out what the heck is going on with this. Right.  But it sounds like it's not that. I do all those meetings. So, in this case, all the time weaving ends up in an error code 3000. Okay, so put the issue, issue link and then now put it in the minutes on the running the Zoom in the VM. I'll add actually the other week I proposed putting together some images. It doesn't seem too hard to set it up in a Docker container for Linux, even though it's a graphical application Zoom, but then it's a container. So, Windows users, I think you can use Linux on Windows, but not Windows on Linux, but there's some headaches involved. And then I looked at VM based approaches and the only Windows VMs that I could find are like these Microsoft Edge ones that expire after 90 days and are more or less meant for Windows web app testing rather than recreating every X days as a instant messaging client thing. So, I don't know if it's violating the spirit of the license there. So, the ultimate solution I arrived at was Linux virtual machine and Linux in general without starting a flame work. So, if we wanted to prepackage them, that's I think the only medium I'd recommend because the second way of more than one image. Why is it Ubuntu? Why isn't it Fedora? Or can you help me debug products? No, no, we're not Zoom support. So, I'm happy to still put together a Linux VM image and maybe some, maybe like a vagrant build script to recreate it if anyone thinks there's merit to that. Like as an interim slash stopgap solution. Well, throw this out there. Is it? So, go ahead. Could you say that I think anybody who's going to want to install the VM will probably just want to do their own OS install because it's like once you just do a basic install of a distro with a browser, then Zoom will probably just forcibly install that client and do everything for you. I think, I don't know, because like I would want to do it myself. I'm actually already running virtual machines for other things and I sort of don't have enough memory left to run to yet another virtual machine to just handle Zoom.  So, I really don't want to be in that situation for Zoom if I can avoid it. I think of it. I'm probably preaching to a rather elite audience of people are already aware of and concerned about the security implications. Chances are they can install VM storage back up or something. But I thought I'd throw it up. Would it be just busy workers? Is there any merit in throwing together, like maybe the term would be meta assessment, like some sort of short report that says, here's the clients we considered, here's the security, here's the usability, here's the practicality. And if we decide to move away from Zoom, we have that. Like, does that need to be formal or clinical? Should we make something like that or just say, no, let's just use tool XYZ, change our YouTube upload scripts and be done with it? No, I think there's merit in that. I think who I created a while ago that I think someone said that they had put in the chat there, talking about looking at alternatives to Zoom. That's exactly what we really should do. And so, anybody just kind of starting to add the things that they've noticed in their thoughts and because, you know, I'm also, some of the usability things, I'm not as certain, like if Google has a way to let you automatically record meetings. But I know that they've recently, with the way they're doing like the new Google Meet thing, they're making it a lot more like Zoom in terms of security and ease of access. And they don't require any browser support, I think, or anything other than your browser. They don't require you to install things unless maybe you do some kind of desktop sharing or something. I don't even know if then, if you need to. But you certainly don't need to for a normal call. Yeah, but some of the other offerings, you know, the pros and cons. And then one other thing is, if we're going to do that kind of comparison, are there any things that we have to sort of, for the sake of responsible disclosure, keep a lid on? Like, for example, if I just took a bunch of chat client apps right now and through LDD and strings and such had it and found certain library statically linked, that should never be statically linked. Can we put stuff out there? Or does that count as irresponsible or premature disclosure? Like, do we have to keep parts of this thing sort of non-public? I don't believe that's happened in the past with this group. And Dan, you can correct me as far as like, I don't think there's ever been an issue because it's always been known that this meeting is public and available and not necessarily like the place to bring up anything. Yeah, I see nodding. Yeah, I'm not worried about, well, I am worried about disclosure. I think it's an important consideration, but this form is a public form.  Got it. I recall the topic along those lines popped up last time, just why I'm getting rid of it by the book. You bet. Back to you, Justin. Sorry, yeah. All done? All right. Thank you, Justin. All right. On the next update here, let's see, Justin. I have one from Mano Veliketti. If I got that correct, please correct me if I got that out. Yeah, Mano. Yeah. Do you have an update there on number 314? So, no, I just started scoping it out. I'll update the ticket with more information, but yeah, I've been away for a while. I just wanted to just talk to everyone quickly. I traveled out of the country and got stuck and recently came back, but I'll be joining the meetings more frequently. Good to be back. Okay. Thank you. All right. Now, I don't believe there are any updates, but we do have a few, I think, new attendees here. So, I'll just quickly call out your name. If you don't want to be called out, you can just ping me or raise hand via chat or just quickly say no update via voice and we'll skip on to the next. So, first here I see in my list is Matt Hamilton. Good day, Matt. Hi. I'm Matt Hamilton. I am a principal security researcher at Soluble. Prior to Soluble, I worked at Bishop Fox as a penetration tester specializing in web applications and Kubernetes cluster security. I'm here just to watch and see what's going on. As it relates to this group, I recently disclosed a few issues to the Argo project and I'm currently working on disclosing issues to another CNCF project. But for now, before I get into it, I'm just here to watch. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. All right. And we have one more new attendee, Chen Zhiyi. Chen Zhiyi. This is Chen. I worked at Uber as a full-time software engineer. I mainly work on like the authentication and authorization solutions for internal Uber security. I joined Uber like one year ago. Before that, I worked at VMware. I worked at VMware as engineer. We provide our Kubernetes as solutions, which was named as Tanzu Mission Console. I'm kind of like a heads-up background, like goal-line programming and Kubernetes and authentication. A long, long time ago, I worked at Samsung Smart TV, provided like a system-never security arm transfer for their Samsung Smart TV. But that's a really long time ago. So I'm joining this group and try to watch and learn how you guys deal with CNCF securities. Thank you, Chen. Okay. Moving along with the discussions here, I believe that covers check-ins and new attendees. I have this item here that was thrown under presentations, but I believe it may have already been covered by Bolesla. Is that correct? The title was... Yeah, I think I was on the... Yeah, I think we talked about that. Okay. So you've already covered a few items that had PRs noted with them, such as 3.1.4 and 3.7.6. So those are all done. Are there any other PRs that anyone would like to bring up? So, Dan, I posted the issue on the third five assessments for you to get it. Thanks, Brendan. Yeah, I went through that. We could take a check off Arbor, thankfully. That was great. And we were perilously close to pushing past our initial five. I do feel like we could potentially short-circuit this. And with the proposal in place, it's a good time to advocate for the introduction of a security assessment as this is all changing. So why don't we add this as an item of discussion for next week's chair and tech lead meeting? And we'll talk through whether we want to push now and get the security in front of everybody. I think we're ready. So that's what I think. Does it work? Yep, it sounds good. Okay, with that then we've covered all. What's very good? No, I was just going to ask, is anyone that... I saw the issue with Parsec. Is there anyone from Parsec that's here? Or anyone that knows some of Parsec? I think it could be an interesting presentation for our coming meeting. Okay, I'll try and read it. The activity around it? That'd be fantastic, Brendan, if you could, you know, invite them. Yeah. Okay, with that. I believe Chase had a comment that he was trying to jump in on. That's very considering me. I wasn't pushing it. The gist is I was unclear if it was on the table for a smaller assessment or something slightly a kilter for application for sandbox or whatever versus, you know, pursuing graduation. It seems like the advantage of doing the same assessment early and late is not to compare. And maybe the detriment is that it's a little top-heavy slash maybe it's a different audience, the assessment, the bigger assessment, so to speak. I just wasn't sure where that landed. I read through the sandbox proposal stuff and it's kind of unclear to me what the whole thing is about, but that's sort of a question, sort of a statement. Everyone's happy with the current security assessment and that's going to be the assessment that applies to sandboxing? Is that the end state? No.  Brendan is proposing that we kind of ratchet down the approval and assessment team process with sandbox and turn that into a bit more of a self-assessment. You know, you've gotten a sense of the journey that you'll go through with assessment partners as you approach incubation or graduation. And, you know, we already have an expectation with the assessment that there's an annual renewal. So, you know, that's going to, you know, whenever you sort of get on the train, you're going to be, you know, kind of in a train workflow.   Yeah, and I think according to the new proposal, which I don't know when it's going to actually take effect or how many changes it's going to be, but with the new sandbox proposal, actually six are not involved until the incubation process. So this definitely will make things simpler, at least for the sandboxing process, for us to not have the requirement and not have that kind of that huge hurdle to actually do assessment. Yeah, I'm not sure if anyone knows what kind of the timeline of that is or is it already in effect. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I mean, thoughts on that are essentially if there's no preview, so to speak, then they get pretty far down the line and get in the face with a 10 ton hammer. That's it. That's a negative. Yeah, right. And in another world in my life, we have two sort of assessments, one we call a security preview, where the P and review is product or process. I don't remember what the three P's are, but anyway, we have a security preview, and then we also have a security readiness review. Right. And readiness review is basically we're shooting you out the door, and you should have pen and paper and code review and all that jazz where I say preview could be partially conceptual, you know, there's at least POC, there's it's got legs, but whatever, but we kind of treat them, you know, one is more consultative and hey, by the way, you know, once you step into the ring, you're going to take a left jab and a right jab. So it makes sense to me to to have the two things be related as one as part of the same continuum, but not the exact same thing. So that's just a thought. Okay, concluding that till our hard stop about nine minutes from now, it's an open floor. So anyone's free to chime in, I'll just throw one thing out there. And that was on the facilitator stuff. For now, how about whoever puts their name there before say, Tuesday evening, we'll just go with that. And I'll happily grab it. If I can, I'm usually able to reserve this time slot. And if not, I'll be sure to get down heads up the day before and that should cover our bases in the general sense. Because yeah, if other people want to step up and get to know this and be involved more, I don't want to impede new people from also taking a swing at it.   Is that okay? Gotcha. I'll, I'll default to hold this time slot unless there's a major emergency. And other than that, I'll ping to seek security. I'm generally able to set this time slot aside. Yeah, if you could open the PR and then we can try and follow your new guidelines to make sure it's consistent. Sure thing. Thank you. And I'll add that to the little updates to the readme markdown file on the the roles page. I've been meaning to do that for a while now. I really should get around to that. Does anyone else have any topics they want to bring up in the seven minutes we have left? Okay, looks like that's a wrap. Have a great week everyone and stay healthy. All right. All right. Thank you. Thanks everyone. Have a good one.


Senator Charles Grassley. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. I welcome you all to the afternoon session of the National Corn Guru Convention.  And I might tell you, they also know it was good for this country. And while we might want more, these convention, the President of the United States. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. You did that. Well, for heaven's sake. Hello and welcome and thank you very much. I'm very proud. Is there an echo in here?  In the old days of Audville, the Real Feature Act was always preceded by a lesser act. Usually it was a trained animal act, so here I am. But I do thank you very much. Governor Ray and Senators Jepsen and Grassley, Congressman Leach and Evans, President Mullins, distinguished members and guests. It is a real pleasure to be here today. A little earlier I was talking with Senator Jepsen about the plight of the American farmer. Roger Jepsen knows and understands and needs the needs and the problems of the farmer. And I can assure you that when Senator Jepsen hears something from the farm community, I hear about it. His counsel has been most helpful to me. It does my spirit good to be among thousands of Americans from our heartland, people with faith in God, the United States and themselves. And despite the doom criers that are abroad in the land, I believe that most of America shares your faith. But there hasn't been enough recognition of the part that you play in the lives of all of us. Not too long ago, a new young congressman from the heart of our biggest city was placed on the Agricultural Committee of the House, not exactly a case of a round peg and a round hole. And his first contribution to the committee was a pronouncement that government should confiscate all food and divide it equally among all the people because food was a natural resource belonging to everyone. I was reminded of this when a group of future farmers of America visited me at the White House last week. They were a wonderful group of young people, as you well know. And I told them an old story along that line that maybe you know, but I'm going to tell it again because life not only begins at 40, so does Lumbago in the tendency to repeat yourself. It was an old fellow that had taken over some land down in a creek bottom. It was covered with rocks and brush and was just pretty scrabbly, but he went to work on it and he worked and he worked and he cleared away the rocks and the scrub and he cultivated and he fertilized. And finally he had a garden that was his pride and joy. And one morning after Sunday services he asked the minister if he wouldn't like to come out that afternoon and see what he had done in this garden. Well, a reverend arrived and he was impressed. And he said, I've never seen anything so big. The Lord has certainly blessed this land. And then he came to the corn and he said, it's the tallest corn I've ever seen. He said, bless the Lord. And he went on that way about everything he saw, tomatoes, squash, beans, but everything. He was high in his praise of the Lord and the old boy was getting pretty restive stand and they're listening to all this. And finally he said, reverend, I wish you could have seen this when the Lord was doing it by himself. With all the miracles of modern day electronics, there is still no greater technological revolution than modern day American farming. Today in the United States one farmer produces enough food to feed himself and 77 other people, 52 Americans and 26 people abroad. Our food and agricultural system is the most productive in the world and accounts for the foundation of 24 million American jobs, almost one-fifth of our nation's total workforce.  It was Thomas Jefferson who once said that farmers were God's chosen people. Right now you must be asking, well, chosen for what? As one farmer wrote to me, he said, things are not good down on the farm in 1982, Mr. President. He cited an advertisement in an Iowa paper for a farm hand. There were 140 responses in two days, some from people who had been forced to give up their own family farms. A woman wrote me about the day she watched her father-in-law try to auction his land to pay debts, but none of their neighbors could afford to buy. She said, I sat there and watched a proud old man on the brink of tears. Another, and this shows the spirit out here, had a note on top that was addressed to the aid opening this letter. She said, I didn't vote for you. I voted for Ronald Reagan, and I want him to read this letter. And I read it. And the lady said, I'm a farmwife 60 years old, not too well educated, but it doesn't take too smart a person to see and feel what is going on. She said, I know you have lots of things to do and decide, but have you ever stopped and thought about the farmer? Stop and think. Can a farmer pay $75,000 to $100,000 for a combine? Can he pay triple for any machinery? Can he pay the price for fertilizer? Seed, you name it, and sell corn, wheat, soybeans for the price they are today. She said that because farmers, just because they aren't out carrying strike signs or tearing something up doesn't mean they're not hurting. What farmers want, she said, is a fair price so that they can pay their bills and feed their families. Well, she was only wrong about one thing that maybe I hadn't had time to think about farmers. The farmers of America are very much in my mind. President Eisenhower once said that without a prosperous agriculture, there is no prosperity in America. He was right. A central goal of this administration is to return profitability and open new markets, especially international ones, to this country's farm sector. Because of your efficiency and the abundance produced on America's farms, we need world markets. The harvest from two out of every five acres of cropland is sold abroad. You depend on international markets for the sale of more than 60% of your wheat and rice, half of your soybeans and cotton, and a third of your corn and feed grains. In 1970, we exported $7 billion worth of agricultural products. Last year, we shipped abroad more than $43 billion worth of products. These exports account for about a quarter of all farm income. While essential to our U.S. balance of trade, offsetting big trade deficits in other goods, the future of farming has become dependent on maintaining and expanding foreign markets for U.S. food and fiber products. During the 1980 campaign in a speech I made not too far from here, I promised my personal support for expanding our agricultural exports, and that pledge remains a priority commitment today. We are vigorously challenging the use of foreign governments, or by foreign governments, I should say, of export subsidies in agricultural areas such as wheat flour, poultry, sugar, and pasta. We have a united front in this effort. The departments of agriculture, state, treasury, commerce, and the U.S. trade representative have spoken with one voice against unfair trade practices. We will continue to speak with this united voice as we pursue every legitimate means of protecting our farmers from unfair competition. We have moved up by six months the scheduled negotiations with Japan on citrus and beef. So far, we have dispatched trade teams to 23 nations in Europe, Africa, and Latin America, the Middle East, and the Far East. Partly because of these teams, we expect to ship more grain to Brazil and Morocco and to maintain near-record grain exports to the People's Republic of China. In these efforts, we do not challenge the right of any country to exploit its agricultural assets and to provide a decent life for its farmers and rural communities. We only ask for fair competition and for more adequate rules to govern trade in agricultural products. At the GATT ministerial conference this fall, we will propose bringing agriculture under its liberalizing influence, an influence that has transformed trade in manufactured goods and unleashed an unparalleled period of growth and prosperity in the post-war world. I am committed to more open agricultural markets in all countries. I challenge other countries, particularly our friends in Europe and Japan, to match this commitment. But the commitment I am most proud to have kept has been mentioned here already by your governor, and that was a more normal grain trading relationship with the Soviet Union, lifting the last administration's grain embargo. The lingering effects of that grain embargo were still hanging over the markets, and our nation's farmers are still suffering from those low prices. We had 70 percent of the Soviet market when the embargo was imposed. That fell to 25 percent during the embargo. At the same time, our competitors took advantage of this market that the last administration threw away. Well, we have restored to the American farmer a fair opportunity to export grain to the USSR on a cash basis. We have already begun that difficult road. After lifting the embargo, we offered the Soviets an additional 15 million metric tons of grain beyond the original 8 million metric tons. Our efforts on behalf of the farmers suffered a setback, however, with the iron repression of the proud people of Poland. When martial law was declared in that country, U.S. officials were developing a negotiating position on a new long-term grain agreement with the USSR. After the Soviet Union ignored our calls to aid restoration of basic human rights in Poland, we had no choice but to impose a number of sanctions against both countries, including postponement of negotiations on a long-term trade agreement with the Soviet Union. There is still no cause to celebrate in Poland. I am, however, somewhat encouraged by indications martial law may be relaxing. We will continue to watch developments there in the hope that life will improve for the Poles and sanctions can be removed. In the meantime, we will explore a one-year extension of the current long-term grain agreement with the Soviet Union. I have also authorized the Secretary of Agriculture to consult with the Soviets on the subject of additional grain sales beyond the minimum purchase requirements of the current agreement. The extension would have the sanctity of a contract ensuring U.S. farmers' access to the Soviet market. Just last week, the importance of this was brought home to me by the governor of a great agricultural state, your neighbor, Governor Charles Thone of Nebraska. As Governor Thone said—somebody's here from Nebraska— there must be no question about our respect for contracts. We must restore confidence in U.S. reliability as a supplier. An agreement would also protect Americans from possible Soviet disruption of our domestic market. Indications are that we will sell a record volume of grain to the Soviet Union this year. With the extension that we are now exploring, we will be able to sell large quantities during the next year. In other words, the granary door is open and the exchange will be cash on the barrelhead. Last March, I outlined this administration's agricultural trade doctrine. Jack Block mentioned this to you. There will be no restrictions on farm products proposed because of rising farm prices. Farm exports will not be singled out as an instrument of foreign policy and can be used only as a part of a trade embargo if it is broad and supported by other nations across the board in a situation that would be so serious as to cause this action. We believe world markets must be freed of trade barriers and unfair trade practices. At home and abroad, we are committed to assuring the American farmer a market that will reward his investment and work and not punish him for his incomparable success. A farmer told me once that, as a rule of thumb, today you risk all that you've acquired for most of a lifetime to plant a crop. The American farmer is a bigger risk taker than evil can evil. Yet the only request that the farmer has is to have the opportunity to compete on a fair and even-handed basis on the market. You know, I can't resist saying something else here that I once had the pleasure of saying in Las Vegas and have added to one of those fellows who was there for the usual sport that takes place in that town. I was there because of a meeting of a farm group and he was a little disparaging in his remarks as what did farmers have to do being around Las Vegas. And I told him I couldn't resist. That was too good a straight line.  That corn meal on the grocery shelves, those soybean products, the steak, milk, bacon, and a myriad of other goods do not mysteriously show up in supermarkets. They were produced at the cost of your sweat and the ache in your back. Most are grown or raised right here in this rich Midwestern soil. You are among the most industrious people anywhere and you've been carrying an extraordinary burden for the nation and the world. This administration is dedicated to bringing you relief. We believe the unbearable interest rates, the suffocating inflation, the recession that has gripped our land for too many months was brought about by government leaders who for too long were afraid to trust the American people. They were caused by 40 years of taxing and spending, by disintegrating faith caused by abandoned promises and by a reckless course of fiscal insanity that had us careening toward catastrophe. But our goal is to be able to say those days are over. I am proud to report to you, the American people, that the government will no longer forget its fundamental purpose, to be the servant of the people, not your master. You're in charge now. It's your money that is being taxed. It's your property being assessed, your resources that have been raided by Washington. You have demanded a reduction in the size of government. Well, we have cut its rate of growth nearly in half, and we're just beginning. You've demanded that government live within its means. We're pushing hard for an amendment to the Constitution to balance the budget. You've called for a reduction in repressive tax rates. We passed and are fighting to keep the largest tax cut in American history, but a tax cut that only barely offsets the tax increases already built into the system. A great American philosopher has written that a timid man listening to alarmists in Congress and in the newspapers might easily believe that he and his country have seen their best days and he hardens himself the best he can against the coming ruin. But after this has been foretold, he said, with equal confidence, 50 times, wanted to see some of the old historic places that I'd heard about and been told about, pubs and inns that were centuries old, just the same as they had been for all those centuries. Toward the end of one such day, we stopped at a pub. It was getting twilight. The driver apologized because this one was only 400 years old. He called it one of the younger ones. The rioters and the only two people working in the place were an elderly couple. It was very tiny.  Well, I allowed us how I was. And she said, oh, there were a lot of your chaps staged just down the road here during the war. She said they used to come in here all the time in the evenings and have song fests. She said they called me mom and they called the old man pop. And as she went on, her voice was softening and she wasn't looking at me anymore. She was looking kind of beyond into her memories. Her eyes were beginning to fill. And then she said it was Christmas Eve. The old man and me were here all alone. And all of a sudden the door burst open and in they come with presents for the both of us. And the tears now had overflowed and were on our cheeks. And she said, big strapping lads they was from a place called Ioway.  Maybe some of those big strapping lads she remembered are in this room. Well, neither those big strapping lads nor their children nor their children's children ever needed government to tell them how to bring food for a hungry world from the blue-black soil of this heartland. Here in the land where the West begins in the state where the tall corn grows are the seeds of our national renewal. Within our people is the strength, the vision and the faith that will return prosperity to America. We need only to believe in our own ability to make it happen. On behalf of all Americans, I thank you for keeping up the struggle. We have a long way to go before we set this country to rights. But God has blessed us with a strong spirit and a rich land. With his help and with yours, I know we can do it. Thank you very much. That there is that thing we've been waiting for out there. It isn't going to happen day after tomorrow, but it is there. The first time in several years, real income is up. Pale sales are increasing at a 12% rate. And as we've said, the interest rates are doing it. Inflation, we had thought inflation alone because that's one of the things that brings up interest rates. If you don't have your own money and there's a high inflation rate, you have to get back enough in interest to make up for the value of your dollars, Lucy, and then make your interest on top of it. Well, that 12.4% interest rate is running for the last six months at less than half that. And we think we've got to handle on it. It's going to keep going down. We think if we make the mistake of going back to the things that our opponents and the artificial stimulant, the interest rates go back down. We bought secondhand way back in the 50s. It was a 1953 tractor. And I bought it for $1,200. And this serves the purpose, but it happened to be the dinner partner one night of a gentleman who's an official with a tractor company. And she was telling him about this. Well, he said, that's ridiculous. He ought to have the kind of tractor that he needs at once. And he'll make you a good deal on that old tractor. I spent $1,200 for that tractor. And he's willing to give me $4,000. All I've got to do is give him $13,000.


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Here we are in QuickBooks Desktop sample rock castle construction practice file provided by QuickBooks going through the setup process we do every time maximizing the homepage to the gray area view drop down noting that we got the hide icon bar and open windows checked off and got open windows open on the left reports drop down company and financial. Let's take a look at the profit and loss income statement change that range 01 01 2 4 2 12 31 2 4 January to December customizing it so we can go to the fonts changing it to 12 okay yes okay reports one more time uno vase boss not the profit loss but the balance sheet and then we'll hit the drop down again we're looking for this fiscal year this time and then we're going to go to the customized reports fonts and numbers change the font to 12 okay yes okay that's what we've been doing every time opening up the major to financial statement reports all other reports pretty much are giving some kind of information adding to one or multiple line items on the major to financial statement reports that we have here this time we're going to look at some graphs and we're going to specifically look at graphs that are going to be supporting backing up the accounts receivable account you'll recall the accounts receivable account represents money that is owed to us for services or goods that we provided customers owing us money the accounts receivable goes up if I go back to the home page with an invoice which you would only use if you're using an accrual basis rather than a cash basis accounts receivable being a recruit a cruel account so if I go back over here and then it goes down when we when we receive the payment so we can find these reports by going to the reports drop down you would think it would be under the customers and receivables and we've got this nice little receivable graph here we can also find it by going to the report center up top let's do that now the report center will maximize that to the gray area we'll go to the customers and receivables and there is the graph let's open that up now notice for internal use when you're doing the actual you know bookkeeping process and trying to collect on the receivables this might not be the most useful tool for that purpose because you'll probably be working there within the customer center and so on and running other reports like an ar aging report however if you are providing this information externally possibly as a bookkeeper monthly to the owner or possibly in in the accounting department you might want the pictorial representations the graphs can be nice to be adding so they give you this nice little custom graph here also note that you could make graphs like this which we will do in a future presentation with some of the sub ledger reports so we will take a look at that in the future okay so we have up top we've got the date we got the print we've got the refresh they give you two things here we've got the basically the aging graph up top and then we've got the pie chart and that's broken out by who owes us the money the customers in essence let's change the date up top we can change the date and make it as of 1231 to 4 so it's as of a point in time report instead of a range report because it's supporting a balance sheet line items seen or given us a pictorial representation of where we stand at a certain point in time so so then let's go ahead and see this is the 9810519 if I go back to the balance sheet there's the 9810519 the subsidiary report to this would be if we go to the reports drop down and we go to customers and receivables let's take a look at the customer balance summary customer balance summary report and we'll make this we'll let we'll keep it there's as of today let's make it from 0101 to 4 to 1231 to 4 so there we have it and now this is let's go ahead and customize this fonts and numbers bring it up to 12 so we can see it a little bit more clearly okay so now we've got this broken out by customers it's a little bit more complicated because we have the sub customers here so you've got some drop downs which you might not have so much if you didn't have like this particular company being a job cost company with the with the sub customers or jobs but we can see the total down here 9810519 we can see that should tie out to the balance sheet that should tie out then to our report with our chart here 19810515 and then if we look at some of our larger customers we've got Robert for example if I go to Robert and we're say we've got and if I do the ratio this is how we're calculating this we're doing a ratio calculation we're taking the total which is equal to the 14510 divided by the total down here divided by the 98105.19 and that's going to give us our 14.7 about we go back to our chart there's where we get the 14.79 about percent if we move the decimal two places over so clearly that the charts can be nice pictorially to be providing if you are doing a presentation especially if you're doing a presentation and or if you're giving this chart to someone as part of the package that you're giving them on a monthly basis or something like that you do of course want to be ready for someone to say well that's a nice colorful pie chart what does it mean right and of course what it means is we're if we're basically taking that report here and we're breaking down the largest customers who owes us the most amount of the accounts receivable notice I believe they use like 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and then everything else they just dump into the other category down below so we're taking a pie chart which is taking our top 10 people that owe us money in accounts receivable taking the ratio of how much they owe as compared to the total and then everything else above that 10 is being grouped together in the other category so in future presentations we'll actually make this report from this by exporting it to excel and then making the graph in excel the the benefit of making a graph in excel is that once you get familiar with doing it and it's not too difficult to do any kind of graph that lends itself to a pie chart or any kind of graph you can take the source data and just export it to excel which is actually a more efficient way to do it's a little bit more time consuming to do it but you have a lot more options to do that notice if I go over here I can't adjust say the format of this pie chart for example they've got like this 3d look on the pie chart I can't really adjust the the colors of it or or make it larger or smaller or anything like that it is what it is it's fairly nice it's really easy to pull up but you know we can't do anything else to it notice that the fact that it is a 3d pie chart is kind of a confusing thing I personally don't like the 3d pie charts because they can be deceptive to me it makes me feel like someone's doing some kind of marketing trick because it makes like for example whatever's up front look larger than this one so notice that this pie over here at 14.17 is a lot bigger than the 8.79 of this red slice but the red slice because it's over here is is looking bigger and it kind of distorts things so it looks cool it's a nice effect but if someone's trying to be manipulative then they can use this distortion to manipulate the look and feel the pie chart and I don't I don't like that because it's supposed to be something that's going to give clarity to the picture not distort the picture so so in any case you can't really so you can change those kind of effects and so on if you were to export this to excel so then we've got this one up top and that's going to be the aging report so if I go to my reports drop down and we go to the uh the customers and receivables and we look at the accounts receivable aging as of 1231 to 4 so now we've got the this is the report that breaks out the stuff that's currently due and then the reports that are 1 to 30 days 31 to 60 61 to 90 and so on and so forth and then that's going to be a percentage of the total so for example most of it is all current in this case so that chart's not that exciting looking but we have 5000 in the 61 to 90 divided by or compared to 98105.19 that gives us our 0.05 or 5 percent that we see over here this should be about 5 percent that we see here as compared to everything else being in the current area now if you were to put this in a presentation of course you can print this chart out so you can go to the printing options up here and notice it doesn't give you the printing as a pdf option but you could save it as a pdf using the cute pdf printer which remember is a free tool some pdf printer can allow you to use the printing option to print it as a pdf or make it a pdf using the printing tool i believe you can google cute pdf printer we're not affiliated with them and uh and you can get a pdf printer and be able to print it that way uh another way you might do it in a presentation is you might is you might take like a a slide that you want to put this information on you can go to insert up top in in in any kind of microsoft uh microsoft program microsoft office that is and then i want to take a screenshot you can also use screenshot using you know word snippet or something like that but i want to take a clipping of the screen so i can take a clipping of the screen and i might then say okay maybe i'm just going to clip this here and i'll put that in place maybe i don't even need the title because maybe i put the title uh up on the top of the slide so i couldn't crop this so maybe i crop up top and i remove that whoop hold on a second and do that i can i can remove that i can crop that out maybe i want to get rid of the white background you could do that and like this is powerpoint you can say remove the background and then uh i want to keep like this area so i'm just going to keep that till it till it which ones you were messed up keep that keep that and there it is is that one kept i think so so there it is so now you've got your graph there's one little piece down here keep that so there it is and then and then i could i could insert the key then i could say i'm gonna go up here where was it my screen is large so the icons are all a little different screenshot we're gonna insert the key and we can put this over here boom on this side or something like that and you could format it however you would like to you could use a quick formatting tools might be useful over here but you can then format it however you would like to in that way that's one way you might kind of easily add it you know into a presentation without having to export it to excel or anything like that you can also do that or add these graphs to your excel file if you so choose that you can make into a pdf which we might do at the end of this whole presentation but it is somewhat limited it's a lot limited in terms of a graph and it might be better to get used to actually seeing where's the report get the report information exported to excel and then be able to make your graphs because that allows you to know how to make the graphs that allows you to adjust the graphs you can do a whole lot more with the key and the format of the chart and and how you want to represent this information you could actually just take the percentages over here and type that into excel but we're going to do that next time we're going to go to the to this actual report or one of these reports the customer balance report most likely uh customer balance report like this one and we'll export it to excel and then we'll try to create a graph with it it'll be great