Hey everybody, this is Christian Buckley. I'm doing another MVP buzz chat. I'm talking today with Vim. Hello. Hello, Christian. Finally we meet. Finally. I know we've been rescheduling this over and over again for literally like three and a half, four months now. Yeah, I think it's something like that, yeah. For folks that don't know you, who are you, where are you, and what do you do? So I'm Vim Matheson. I will pronounce my back name. Like I would say it in Dutch. I live in Belgium. I started in IT, I think around 2002, just as a technical engineer, helping people with all kinds of issues going from printers to servers and so on. And then started working with servers, Hyper-V. Everybody in Belgium was working with VMware, but for some reason I ended up at a customer focusing on Hyper-V. Even started off with virtual server, went to Hyper-V and so on. System center, the whole system center, sorry, added. And then I came in contact with some people of the Belgium system center user group. And that's how I started off with community. First, simply writing blocks, issues, day-to-day issues, and how I solve them. Also focusing on Hyper-V and those things. And I think around 2014 I made the switch to the cloud. So Azure, that's also the early beginning. First phases of Azure were almost in Belgium. Nobody was using it, only specific customers. And since then I'm almost purely focusing on Azure and then I must say the hybrid cloud these days. So the complete arc story with that, we're seeing quite an adoption of that also in Belgium these days in the Netherlands. So in a way, I went from on-premises to the cloud and now I'm somewhere in the middle. Using those things from before, yeah. It's so funny about this space too is that, so I went to join a startup in early 2001 where we built a dedicated cloud platform. And that was like at the beginning of when SaaS as an acronym was created. And then to hear like, so Microsoft president of collaborative apps and solutions is, Jeff Teeper talked about like he feels like it wasn't until like 2015, 2016 where really there was the broad acceptance. We finally crossed that threshold into the cloud. And I sat there talking to him, I interviewed him in Amsterdam at the end of November. And it was just thinking about that like, wow, that was so for me it was 15 years of trying to convince people, you know, this is- These days I'm still convincing people because I see the Netherlands is quite fast with their cloud adoption and Azure and that's being used there quite a lot. But in Belgium, we're always a little bit much slower in adopting new stuff. Yeah, you know what? Everybody says that though, that's true.   Anybody look at security?  That's right. That next generation. Sometimes it's strange. I think I'm already doing these things from 2014 and you're starting now with the adoption with 2024. So it's 10 years later and I'm already doing those things for 10 years and you're just starting with EOS for example. I think which thing where you're missing in between in those 10 years that you just start adoption, you're just moving your own premiums to Azure. And I think, yeah, but we are already 50 steps ahead now. So what do you think, why are some people, why are some organizations so slow? I mean, so like I always, I would always say coming from the project and portfolio management side of things. And one of the reasons why it took a long time for many of those organizations because they invested so heavily, they're like, we're not gonna even look at spending new money until we've gotten the value out of what we've already purchased. And so that's one reason. It's just a licensed thing. We just bought this for three years. We're still going to use it. We have, for example, new family license whatsoever. It doesn't matter. Okay, we have for three years, five year Citrix licenses. We're just going to use it. And even the first three years don't look at anything else. Right. But they don't think future-wise. And sometimes the thing I see, if people, especially the technical people are familiar with something, hey, they managed something for five, six years. For them, okay, I'm getting older. I'm at 20 years from my retirement. Yeah, I'm not going to change my complete way of working because somebody invented cloud or they advise us to use cloud because it's a skill set they have, but they also need to switch the way of thinking, the way of deploying things, the way it's a process. And some people, I think are easy with that. Also, if the company uses it and the company supports all the stuff and gives you their trainings and so on and so on. But sometimes it's still people, but it works. I don't touch it. Well, then you get into conversations, right? This is funny. I mean, there's a huge focus when I got my MBA was around the opportunity cost. What does it cost you? One, there's the initial investment. Yeah, you might have two years left on the licenses that you have, but what is the value of the features and the capability of the speed or the lack thereof? What is that cost? And at some point- Did they even add new things? Right. It's not because you bought that license or you use it for five years. Did they add something that brought you some more capabilities, some more features you were waiting on or just using the same thing once over again for the next five years? Yeah. So the innovation part is also quite important, I think. And the vision of the company and then where do we want to get and how many people can we support and so on and so on. So I guess what we're saying here is that I feel your pain of what you still have to go through. And it's basically we're having to go and make the same points. I just was having a conversation with this morning about somebody that had concerns about security in the cloud. And I'm sure you have that discussion all the time. Like you're on-prem, what you're doing, you have the utmost, you feel that that is secure, that it's hardened, that you're managing it all yourself.  Yeah. Sometimes because they see the boxes in their data center or they see the cables running underneath the floor. Okay, now I'm safe because I see everything. But when I'm going into the cloud, I don't see anything around it. I just see my thing and yeah, what are they doing around it? I don't know, I don't think. And for some people, it still seems like, yeah, lack on security or don't trust it because it's just not visible like they opened their door.  Okay, I'm safe. Yeah. Well, the other thing that opens up to is that shadow IT is because you have these that, we're all technologists at some level. I mean, people are, information workers, they may not be in touching the servers, but they can certainly understand the advances in the capabilities of the various solutions that are out there. And so when the IT organization, the company says no, because we've got two more years on these licenses. They find a workaround to get their job done in the way they want to do it. Which I'm sure is completely secure. And yeah, I know 15 years ago, nobody was doing IT and it was purely for people really doing it as their job. Even now, everybody at my house can plug in a PC, plug in the printer and get it fixed. Years ago, you had to solve the printer problem. Those things, everybody can do those things. Everybody can plug in a Wi-Fi router. And yeah, okay, I can get online. I fix my own stuff. If it doesn't work that way, I will find another way to get it working. I'm always amazed at how much, when there's a technical question of something who just bought some expensive camera equipment and my wife who's more of the photographer and she's able to get, I'm trying to figure it out and I just go into YouTube. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, just go and completely walk through. Right. Figure it out, read a blog post whatsoever and everybody can read, I think. So they try it out and if it's not working, they look at something differently. And yeah, that's a big difference between when I was started up with managing services in a big environment, I had to figure out everything myself. Nobody teached me, I need to look out, yeah, test some things, fall back, ask questions to more senior people maybe, but I didn't go on the internet and tak, tak, tak, and looked it up. It wasn't there. So for troubleshooting skillsets, that's something I see missing with the younger people these days. Yeah, if they can't find it on YouTube, if they can't find it through Google, chat GTP these days, they don't get it fixed. But it's not because an AI is saying what you need to do that you in the back know what you're doing. That's something. But see, we're getting very close to where we'll get back to having like the Google glasses. We'll have the headset. My car breaks down the side of the road. I'll be able to open it up, call my mechanic right from there. He'll be able to do the augmented reality and see, hey, check this. Oh, I can see something as a miss. He'll be tied in. If you know what you're doing, it's your day-to-day job and you're completely familiar with Azure or your own premise environment, doesn't matter. And then you look something up through those things and that's saying you need to do this, that's this step seven, eight, and you see something is wrong. You will know if something is wrong. If you've never done it before on your own, you're just going click, click, or whatsoever, and you go through it and then yeah, maybe it's even worse click or figure than it was before. Well, that's one of the, one of the lessons need to teach to the younger generation is to understand the power of community.  I know somebody who knows the answer to that. Most of the time, if I don't know the question, I just ask somebody. Right, yeah. In Belgium, yeah, we all, with some other people, I also have a Microsoft Cloud and client management community, MC2MC, and where we focus on three pillars. So we have people, skill in Azure, everything, Windows servers, Arc, AVD, we have the second pillar is endpoint and security. So we have quite a lot of people in our community focusing on purely endpoint, in-tune, Microsoft 365 defender and those things. And now we even have added the third pillar where everybody's focusing on, yeah, it's also quite a buzzword these days, data, AI, and the power automate and power platform. So if I have a customer problem, normally they come to me to Azure, but most of the time they ask, yeah, do you know somebody that knows this because you have a broad network and you almost know everybody? Yeah, I can ping somebody, but yeah, he probably can help you fix your problem. That's how I mostly get something fixed. I don't know. Right, probably, except in the realm of AI where there's a whole lot of people talking and nobody, we all have the same amount of experience. Yeah, it's all new for everybody. I was gonna ask those like, so when you kind of going back to your roots and becoming an MVP and you talked about getting plugged in to the user group there, like, so how did you get involved? Because a lot of people struggle with that. Like, well, do I just go and raise my hand and say, hey, I'd like to get more involved? I always tell people, yes, do that. In some way you can. Yeah. For me, it was somebody also working at the same customer I was working on. He was doing Scone, for example, and he invited me. Yeah, you do Hyper-V, you do the system center virtual machine manager, nobody in Belgium is almost talking about it. Won't you be interested to write a block? Okay, writing a blog. I will do a start writing a blog. Yeah, we have the platform. You just need to write the blog post and you can add it to our platform and just focus on those things. And that's how I started off. And then from that, it started with, do you want to do a public presentation? For public, I need to talk for people and explain my, yeah, just talk about what you're writing and show your experience and just go ahead. And yeah, with that, yeah. For me, now talking is like having fun. I'm even not stressed anymore or whatsoever. Just go with the flow and yeah. So have you ever had somebody in your audience that you've presented to that has just ripped you to pieces in what you're presenting about? Have you had that experience? No, not really, to be honest. Not that I saw people doing it to other speakers. And I always think, wait a minute, you're in front of all those people. Yeah, well, it's, I always like to ask because again, I've witnessed some of that. I've had a couple of experiences which I think I handle it pretty well. And one of the things I always, which is a great thing to have is a bit of humility and somebody asked a question and said, you know, I have no idea. Like I'm like, you can talk about it after our session, let me look into it. Let me go get back to you or whatsoever. But it really depends of the audience most of the time, I think, and where you're talking. If we're a user group, it's easier to communicate but most people coming to those user group evening events know each other. So it's in a more polite way. If you're at a big event and somebody raises hand just because he wants to make a point, that's, yeah. There's, well, there's certainly an art to that, especially I've been in where there's been people in the audience that have just completely the phrase that we use here, railroaded, you know, the conversation, taking it over and the speakers were not very good at, well, how do I- I'm thinking of myself and answering- How do I pull it back in and move on? There's some- No, I'm quite directing that way. I'm trying to, yeah, I know we're getting there. We're over here and we're getting there. Sometimes people interrupt, yeah, and this and this and this. Yes, okay, but we're just stalking our story. Let us, in the end, between the middle, we're getting there, we'll explain how we see it. Sometimes people are also 50 miles ahead, but yeah. You need to think, not everybody in the audience most of the time has the same experience. Yeah. I do a lot of do-it-talks with Micha and we always try to explain the things we're talking about, the easiest way, so people just using it, don't knowing it, can follow, but also the experienced people, if they wait a little bit, we always try to, yeah. Yeah, well, you need to- Well, there's somebody, I've forgotten the reference. It's been so long, but, you know, one of the, it's a skill in presenting to, at the beginning, tell people what you're going to present to them, go through the presentation, at the end, summarize what you've presented to them, so that they understand what was covered, what is not gonna be covered, and that's why smaller groups, I always, I love having a whiteboard or something where the questions we get, call it parking lot or whatever, take it offline later, but, you know, hey, these questions that we did not cover, come back to me, or let's talk after my session. I also give trainings and that makes it easier if you need to do an hour session, it's easier to fit everything in between because you're used to talking about something for hours and hours and hours and explain it from A to Z, but sometimes you need to fit it in 50 minutes or 60 minutes, and it's, after doing it, more and more, you get more familiar with it, how to handle it, how to build up maybe your slides, do we do a lot of slides, do more demo and talk through the demos, and it depends, it also depends on the audience most of the time. I always love doing, you know, the user groups and it's certainly at community-driven events, like we're getting ready to do our collab days Utah event in April, and we're wrapping up the entire, with an hour of the Ask the Experts, one of my favorite segments, where you, all the speakers that are still there, some have to leave a little early, but you put them all on stage and just let the audience ask questions, do an AMAs and ask the experts to do AMAs, folks that don't ask me anything, those formats are sometimes the most rewarding, and I, because I learn a lot too, I sit with all these other experts and somebody's bound to know they- We organize quite a lot of evening events and every time I learn something. Yeah. For some reason, even if I'm working with those things, everybody has another point of view, looks at things in another way, maybe they're doing it this way, that way, maybe it's a better way than how you've done it for the last two months or whatsoever. Yeah, I think you can learn, you can always learn something from somebody. Well, so final question for you, I always like to ask a version of this, but so I'm sure you've had, you've been an MVP for four years, four and a half years now? Yeah, four years, yeah. So you've got people coming up and asking like, well, how do I become an MVP? Like, what's your advice? What's your guidance to people of what to do? My thing was, I love the community, I love sharing, just start up with blogging about something you love to do, build it up, talk about things you love to do, not everybody loves to be in front of a public, maybe you can make YouTube videos, there are different ways, but there's no, in my opinion, just do the things you love and probably if people like it, it will be picked up. There's no direct way to get, okay, I started blogging and I'm now an MVP and I get a lot of those questions from people and I say, I just love the things I'm doing, I'm not doing it to become an MVP. Right. I like writing blogs, I like organizing those evening events, I like to talk to people in a public event and just sometimes my thought is not, for me, love what you do, share what you do and maybe you will get there, otherwise you don't get there and then, yeah.  If you help people, people will also help you when you have a question. That's why I mostly see it. I just share what I'm doing and how I fix things but I even also read other blog posts, look at videos from other people that solve a problem I come up for and I don't know how to solve it and yeah, it's just sharing, sharing and caring and yeah. Yep, 100%. Well, Wyn, really appreciate your time, getting to know you and I'm glad we were finally able to connect. Are you coming over for the MVP Summit? We'll try if I can fix my plane in a hotel because it's easier if you live in the US, I think. Yeah, it is. So next week I will be at the MCT Summit, that's not that far from me but normally I subscribe to go to the MVP Summit but I still need to figure it out with my company I'm working for, if I can, yeah. Yeah, because it's quite a huge amount of money. It is, I know. You pay it for yourself, so we'll see, hopefully we get there. Yeah, well, for folks that wanna reach out to you, connect with you, where are you most active in social, where can people find you? I'm still on X, I started off with Twitter, I'm still there. So if you look me up at Vema Passant, you will probably figure it out. I have my own blog, VemaPassant.com. Also quite whenever I do something blogs, I also post it on LinkedIn. So you can find me on LinkedIn X, you can find me on the MC2MC website from my user group. So different ways to find me and if you have a question related to something I'm focusing on, just ask and if I can help, I would probably help you. Excellent, and of course I'll have all the links that are out on the blog post, that are out on YouTube and out in the podcast as well. So thank you so much for your time and we'll talk soon. Yep, bye bye. Wow.


Hi, my name is Anna Jimenez and today I'm here to talk about DEF-RES, VRM, and community building within open source program ops. So let's get started. During the years, companies have realized the many benefits open source has and a lot of them started to consume open source projects, but also, some of them they started to contribute to open source projects. I can give you an example, for instance, Samsung, Samsung, it's a company which software has open source components and they realized that consuming to them wasn't enough, so they started to contribute as well to get their contributor accepted in those projects. And also, there are other companies that even release new open source projects and the benefits that that can have, for instance, the many benefits can be, for instance, to attract talent and return talent. So there are companies that do all of this, there are companies that just focus on two or one part of this. So there is not only the inbound part that will be consumed open source, but the outbound part. So companies realized that to accomplish all this, we need specialists from all different fields. We need legal, we need community building, we need human resources. So they started to incorporate in their company a place called open source program offices in order to have a centralized place to achieve all these different tasks, all these different activities. So today's talk, I would like to focus on the area of releasing open source projects and the main specialists that should be involved in there and talking about community building specialists. So when we talk about community building specialists, the first thing that might come to your mind will be maybe project managers, community managers, marketing specialists. But what about dev roles, because I know just a few dev roles are getting into open source program offices, but it's not being mainstream at all. And for me, dev roles are community building specialists too, and can bring a lot of value to open source program offices. So let's bring a little bit of context about dev role first. So developer relations roles are diverse. And what I mean with that is that depending whether they have been hired by a foundation or by a company, and depending whether the software of that foundation or that company is open source or not, the objectives are going to be different, they're going to change. And not only that, they can be reporting to different departments. I've known dev roles that report to marketing, for instance, and I've known dev roles that report to engineering, which is a completely different area. And even others reports to support. And this makes really, really difficult to measure success in dev roles, because they are going to have different KPIs, different OKRs, depending on the department they belong to. So what does that role do, actually? So I would say look at their name. It says developer relations. And that means building relationships with developers. And some developers might want to get users to the company or foundation. So users will be the one that asks questions to GitHub or GitHub or to form. Others would like to get contributors. So those that not only provides questions, but provides answers. And other ones might like to, would like to get maintainers that are the ones that provides code to pull requests or to match requests, for instance. So from an expert point of view, what's will be the code? So I think that it's important, will be important, really interesting that a goal will be transition from users to maintainers. And that's something a dev world can perfectly do. So to achieve this goal, I think it's really important to understand first the developer journeys, because there are multiple developer journeys where the developer might be and start to know what was the starting point and how, what is the journey that he or he is having, OK, he's having. Also, it's important to understand connections. So of course, developers are not just in one platform. They are not only on GitHub or on GitHub. They are on mailing lists. They are on chats. They are on forums. So it's important to understand the different connections and where a single developer is across the different platforms and how those platforms are changing when we are looking at the different stages of the developer journey. So OK, that's great, but how can we achieve this? How can we know this? So as Lord Kelvin said, to measure is to know. And here's a quick story. This is about Chaff. Chaff is one of our current customers at Victoria. So Chaff had also user community and contributor community, and they had this goal of, OK, we want to transition from user to contributors, right? So they identified their main platforms where their community is. So they know their communities in this course in GitHub and in Slack. And when they become contributors, they start to add more activity on GitHub. So with this, they were able to understand the developer journey and the different connections between platforms. And this will help them to know how much support and how much internal efforts and how much internal developers to add to the different platforms. So when we think about what to measure, it gets clear. Metrics involving knowing your community should be involved as well. So to get this traditionally marketing, this has been done through CRM, a customer relationship management. But is that enough for several specialists and community specialists? Because actually, developers behave quite differently. So developers have different touch points, different motivations. And different ways to interact. And traditional CRMs cannot achieve all this. So I came up with the idea of the community relationship management. So to achieve this, one important key point is the identity affiliation management. So this will help us to know who is who because of different platforms and avoid multiple identities. So there are some existing tools for that. One of them is Searching Hat. That it's part of CrimoLav software. That is also part of the Linux Foundation Chaos Project. It's a CrimoLav and Searching Hat are 100% open source. And we are always looking for contributors. So I will give you the URL to the GitHub repos in case you're interested and you would like to contribute. And also just to mention that Searching Hat has a user interface, the one you were saying on the slide, that it's called Hasso. And that makes it easier to declare organizational affiliations, even correct attributions of contributors. So to sum up, let's bring up these three main ideas. So the first of all, Dev World can help to transition users to maintainers and that help open source ecosystems within Osgold. Also, traditional marketing platforms are not enough to achieve all these goals. And affiliation management system is key to build CRM for the Stanford community. So the story about it here, we are the core developers of CrimoLav and Searching Hat and we are software development analytics firm and we are helping companies and organizations to understand the software development projects that matter to them. So that's all for today. Thank you so much for staying until the end. And if you have any questions, just feel free to ask. Bye. Hello. Welcome. Thank you for staying here until the end. So now we are going to go through questions. I don't see any questions right now. So I will just invite you to ask any questions you may have about this talk. Let's wait maybe two, three more minutes because we have plenty of time. And yeah, I'm here to help you. OK, so what are the top three metrics that Dev World should look at? Well, as I mentioned during the talk, depending on the department that Dev World is there, that Dev World is reporting to, they might be having different ways to measure the effort and ways to measure that success. But I think having Metric Relaguarding Community Building should be also there. I'm not saying that it's the only thing, but it should be definitely be there. Actually, a long time ago I created a blog post talking about those kind of metrics that we should have, such as the developer engagement. I was talking about the developer activity. Let me, I don't know if I can write you something here. OK, so top metrics. So let me start with you the blog post, because I think it's going to help you better than start mentioning some of those metrics. OK, here it goes. OK, so, OK, I think you can see the link. So there I talk about some metrics regarding community metrics. And I hope it helps. So next questions. What would you suggest the Dev World professional to get started with getting data to show the ROI? OK. So as I mentioned, first of all will be the community and start looking for metrics regarding community. And after all, of course, depending on the department you are, then start looking for specific, for instance, if you're reporting to marketing, then should be specific metrics for marketing. If you're reporting to engineering, specific metrics for engineering. Next question. What is the easiest way to manage community metrics when you're new to the, sorry, GL, Samantha, I don't, if you can let me know what GL is, sorry. OK, I will wait for your answer and then I will answer the next one. What are the top, OK, that one was already answered. How can I find mentorship to improve that well? OK, actually, I don't really know how to answer that. I will think about it. And if you can follow me on Twitter, my name is Anna. Well, it was on this slide as well. But if you reach out to me, I will answer to that. Grimoire Labs, OK. OK, OK, got it. So coming back to. OK, I will say if you have got to the G-Lab repo, in there there is a lot of documentations regarding exactly that answer. So I would suggest you go to first chaos community. So it's this URL for long. I need to OK, OK, so go to that URL. And then in software, you will find the Grimoire Lab repo. And in there, there's a lot of documentation where you can search for that exactly. OK, OK, what else? OK, how can you community with all the members of the community, users, contributors, maintainers? So I will say first, learn where those users, those contributors and those maintainers are. Because they will probably be on different platforms. Like, for instance, maybe your users might be in this course. And maybe your maintainers, maybe, and contributors, maybe on GitHub. So first, you need to know exactly where the different community, like where your users are, where your contributors are, and where your maintainers are. They might be also mixed. Like, for instance, when I talk about Chef use case, they say that sometimes you can find users also on GitHub. But mainly, they will be on this course and Slack. Because they are not contributing actively to code. They're just asking questions and getting into the platform, into the software. OK, can you give an example of how metrics have been used to understand a developer's journey and how those insights allowed growing the community? OK, so as I was saying, Chef is a clear example. So they had a lot of users, but not so many contributors. And what they wanted to do is go from users to contributors. And by looking at the different platforms, they could understand the different touch points and the different interactions they were having when being on Slack. And then when those people that were on Slack on this course moved to GitHub, from them, it was already a transition. And that can be done through the affiliation management, and any affiliation management identity management. Sorry. That can also know who is who across the different platforms. So if a person was initially having activity on this course and then moved to GitHub, this affiliation system can know that that's the exact same person, even though we are talking about complete different platforms. What else? OK, and I think that's all. Yeah, I'm not missing any question, I think. Yeah, just to come back full about the mentorship question, just if you messaged me on Twitter, I will answer to you. I will think about that and answer to you in a short period of time. OK, so I think we have four minutes left as far as I know. Thank you for staying here until the end. OK, what are the top three metrics? That's already done. What's your Twitter account for community nodes? OK, yeah, I will answer to you. So this one. Metrics to measure inner source. OK, so that's a different topic, but there is a community called Inner Source Commons. And they are working on exactly that where you mentioned it. Let me give you the link for that. We're also in Victoria actually participating here on building those metrics as well. So if you go to this link, yeah, so if you go to that link, you will find more information about metrics to measure inner source. I don't think we've got the link. OK, which link? The criminal lab or the chaos link? Samantha? So OK, I'm going to send it to you again. In case you cannot see, if you have my Twitter account, just message me and I will send you the link there. OK, so this is the link. Scrimmel lab, yep. OK. And yes, OK. Well, it's working well, this platform. I think that's all and it's already 45. So thank you so much. And yeah, I don't know how to cut this, but bye, everyone. And thank you again.


firstly impact 50 top women will list has obviously grown in stature over the years but I what I find most exciting about this year is the fact that there is an additional set of people from the industry who've never really been considered before and that's the corporate communication teams which have featured in this list so it's a great so a huge call out to impact for that actually when I think back I think I've mostly my first boss may have been a woman but largely all the bosses I've had have been men I have not found and as a result I cannot tell too much distinction but having worked even for women one woman boss and actually dealing with women stakeholders I haven't really found any difference I think they've all been very fair they've all always demanded the best of you to be able to impact the company so honestly I have not really come across a difference and obviously I've been very fortunate that the men bosses that I've had have had the right empathy level have been fairly unbiased and much more focused on impact than anything else


Hello, my name is Chief Valencia. I'm a Flight Deck Chief on board USS Batan and today I'm bringing you the EAWS Minute of all the aircraft we have on board. We'll begin with the CH-53, the aircraft that is directly behind me. The primary mission of this aircraft is to move troops and cargo. It's a heavy-lift aircraft. We have the AVA Harrier. It's the only jet we have on board. It provides cover to the marine from the troops out on the ground. It can carry some weapons and missiles and bombs and things of that nature. Next we'd like to talk about the V-22. The V-22 is a very good aircraft. It offers the capabilities of a fixed wing and the flexibility of a helicopter. And its primary mission is to move troops twice as fast as a helicopter. The UH-1 GUI is a utility aircraft. It can be used for multi-purposes. The UH-1 is a light attack aircraft. Essentially it can bring all of us to the battlefield. Then is the MH-60 Sierra, the only Navy helicopter we have on board. It's our star aircraft or search and rescue aircraft. It's very common. Everyone has seen it. Every branch of the service has it. And it's again the only Navy helicopter we have on board. My name is Chief Valencia. I'm Flight Deck Chief on board USS Batan. I hope you learned something today. Thank you for watching this UH-8 Minute. You have a great Navy day.


And in business news, a global financial outlook continues to look dimer with a prolonged war in Ukraine. Many African countries are bracing themselves to ride out the East Ham. This year's theme focuses on how to achieve climate resilience and adjust energy transition for Africa. Take a listen. The African Development Bank annual meeting happening in Accra gave the opportunity for leaders to discuss the challenges that pandemic-induced losses in revenue have had on infrastructure. Ramping up climate finance was also a hot topic. This year's theme focuses on how to achieve climate resilience. I believe the biggest challenge that Africa is facing is climate change. How the continent needs to adapt to all that is happening, but also how to enable Africa to open up to financial instruments in order to accelerate the development of the continent. We need roads, we need ports, we need railroads and just motorway in order to move goods from point A to point B. Today the infrastructure deficit has an impact on GDP and growth. We have challenges in terms of youth unemployment. We have challenges in having over 50% of the population today that are women that are not employed and they are disproportionately affected by climate change because a lot of them are substance farmers. While acknowledging the negative impact disruptions to global supply chains had on many Africans, the South African Commissioner to Ghana highlighted the key role institutions like the AFDB can play. It's not to look at the challenges towards Africa's development but look at the opportunities and that's why we're here, to leverage on the opportunities especially institutions like multilateral institutions like the African Development Bank in terms of just charting forward the development trajectory of the continent. On Monday the AFDB approved a $1.5 billion emergency program to alleviate the impact of worsening food insecurity across the continent. So there is need for African countries producing the goods they are consuming. This is most important in the framework of the African continental free trade area that provides a continental market of nearly 1.3 billion people with a combined GDP of 3 trillion US dollars which is an opportunity to accelerate structural transformation and industrialization. These week long annual meetings have brought together several central bank governors, ministers and delegates to discuss the impact of climate change across Africa in ways in which governments can be resilient and achieve efficient energy transitions. Visit our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.


Going on everyone Sam here late in sports cards. We're ripping 2022 top Star Wars chrome black hobby 12 box case break number 8 random Auto or pack style. Here's a look again at your random results As always you can find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link in chat. Good luck everybody I'm gonna organize this just so I could keep track of who's who So I'm gonna sort it on my end of the rent the random results are up in the random like way on right on the website, but This will be oops not that that's not what I want to do sort column B It is a alright Good luck everybody Take a look up on the top screen and we'll show in the top cam and we'll show how we're gonna do how we're gonna differentiate What box is what so the entire left side will be one through six So I'm taking out one through six right now. I'm just gonna put them down how they were one through six and Boxes seven through twelve So This will be number one Two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve. That's how that'll go right there. So good luck. We've got box one Pack one is gonna be a Paul B So good luck here Paul. I'm gonna move this so we can't see what the hit is Do my best job there? So we've got pack one going to Paul B Echo Job of the hut and Moff Gideon blue 20 out of 75 nice one Paul. Congrats, buddy And then what's up? Oh, yeah We've got auto one is Terry M Good luck Terry. We've got Magistrate Morgana Elspeth That is Deanna Lee in a in a santo nice one there that is not numbered auto now We've got pack two is a money s auto two is Justin B all servers Look at this. We got the all servers train going Empty So pack to a money s kit fist though R2 and K2so 119 out of 199 very nice And we've got auto two is Justin B Congrats or good luck Justin We've got Ranz our Mulk not numbered Mark Boone, Jr Ranz our Mulk all servers. All right, we've got pack three Jonathan Q auto three Michael MC It's good luck Jonathan and Michael. This is your guys's box Ezra Bridger Boba Fett green director Krennick 65 out of 99 that is pack three for Jonathan Q Now we've got our auto. It's gonna be gold. Ah, Sue That is Christopher Sean Ah, Sue numbered 26 out of 50 Congrats to Michael MC box for We've got pack for Brian G auto four is Scott M Hunter Princess Leia, Organa and blue Zeb or relios 73 out of 75 Nice one there. There you go. That was Brian G now. We've got auto for Scott M Looks like a green fifth brother green 35 out of 99 fill up Anthony Rodriguez his fifth brother Congrats on that there Scott now we've got pack five Rory be auto five Barry teeth is Ahsoka Tano and Enfis nest 149 out of 199 Congrats Rory We've got auto five going to Barry T. Good luck Barry Nambi Gima not numbered Karina or Korean shot as Nambi Gima Very nice We've got pack six going to Mike MA auto six and V So good luck Mike MA and Anne guy doesn't even watch Star Wars. I've watched some Star Wars sin sin Got IG 11 Chura and way and Gold cut LeCain 31 out of 50 That is Mike M. A's pack Congrats Mike MA now. We've got going to and V auto six orange of commander D. A. C 16 out of 25 very nice nice auto congrats on that one and That's true. Yeah Let's go in congrats and nice low-numbered auto. All right pack seven Nicholas W auto seven Scott M crosshair Yoda nice one there in blue gin or so 33 out of 75 Congrats on that. That was Nicholas W. Now. We've got Scott M. Auto seven Gold Ezra Bridger 23 out of 50 Taylor Gray as Ezra Bridger Nice one there We've got pack eight Mike M. A auto eight Paul B The Yoda's out of 1.99 Take a look at that Yoda really quick. We're taking a look Hawk Oh, thank you appreciate that Hawk That's why they call them Hawk. That's right. Eyes like a Hawk for sure. All right pack eight Mike M. A digs bigs dark lighter Greedo Gotcha and gold body rook to set up 50 nice one there Triangles on the top right gotcha gotcha gotcha. Okay. Good to know Next auto is Paul B We've got hunter not number D Bradley Baker as hunter very nice Congrats Paul Well, hey, all right pack nine Michael MC auto nine gale L. Good luck Michael and gale Oh Michael MC on pack nine Rose Tico Sibula and Sid on the green tonight 31 out of 99 and Auto nine gale out. Good luck gale We've got champs and doula not numbered Robin Atkins Downs Champs and doula pack 10 evan a auto 10 Kurt S Good luck here Kurt and evan so evan's got the pack Lama Sue Obi-Wan Kenobi to 199 very nice and how about an orange Mandalorian? six out of 25 That is sick Congrats evan Nice one there buddy.  Don't you worry. That is so nasty Just keep that off to the side. I do want to take a picture of it. Nice a sage ventress All right, we've got pack 11 Amane S auto 11 Kyle P. Good luck Kyle. Good luck Amane Go No, what happened with the pap avi and stuff got Bosch Kylo Ren nice one there not numbered and green tech 99 out of 99 on the bookend. There you go Amane and good luck here Kyle We've got Admiral Ackbar. It's a trap. It's a trap. Tim Rose is Admiral Ackbar It's a trap nice one there Admiral Ackbar Now we've got pack 12 Amane S and auto 12 Jonathan Q. Good luck guys. I Do I do want to pick up an Admiral Ackbar auto. I think that'd be pretty cool I hit a general Grievous auto and sins break once back when I hit the orange Luke That's like he's like my favorite character too. It's perfect a sage ventress vice-admiral holdo and green platoon 21 out of 99. Oh geez got ejected. Holy cow We've got auto last one is Bale, Organa That is Phil Lamar. Are you sure Kyle? That's awesome. Thank you, man. That'll do it for the break guys. Thanks again With the hacks of my own dang break. Thanks again for the Phil guys. I do appreciate it next up first


Now, what I'm going to do is start by looking at something which Meezi said and what I'll be doing in the course of my talk is simply expanding and explaining how he reached that conclusion. What Meezi said was that the market economy does not respect political frontiers, its field is the world. In other words, so far as each individual economy is concerned what we're looking at really is a sector of the world economy. The question is how this happened. The second point which quote which you've got up there is of course, a very old quote, and there is no new thing under the sun. In other words, international trade, a long distance trade is something which began back in the Stone Age when we first emerged as human beings. So it's something which has been going on for a long time. There's really no need to be afraid, afraid of it. Okay, now what I did, this was actually the beginning of a lecture which I prepared for my students in Australia. What I did was I simply rented random through the house and I had a look at the various products and where they came from. And now this is in Australia, not here of course, but as you'll see as we go through just about every little item there was made somewhere outside of Australia. Okay, by rose, what you people call bullpoint pens, we people properly called by rose. It was invented by Joseph Byron, so we always remember him. Okay, they're made in Germany and Japan, towels and sheets are made in India and in Australia. And I'm staying with Norma who's on the staff here and she doesn't know but I had a quick look through her linen closet and found that your sheets are actually made in China, as in... Okay, now I had the medicines are made in Denmark, England, France and Germany, toothpaste. I don't know, well your toothpaste is obviously made in the US but mine is made in Ireland and in Australia. My computer is made in Malaysia, the various accessories, things which you plug into it, don't ask me what they are, are made in Taiwan and Thailand. The TV is made in Malaysia but it's made by Philips which is a Dutch multinational enterprise. The CD player is made in China but that is by a Japanese company multinational. The nail clipper for some reason is made in the US, I don't know why, that's your specialism. It's only nail clippers, however scissors and things are actually made in China, that is what I found. Light bulbs are now made in Indonesia, they don't last as long as the Philips light bulbs which are made somewhere in Malaysia but they're cheaper. Clocks and watches is interesting for over 30 years now or more. It's the Japanese who've been making the clock movements and therefore you've made these very cheap throw away watches and the cases of course are made in China and the Philippines. Mugs are made in, well my mugs anyway, are made in Korea, Japan, England and Sweden. Normans mugs are made in Korea and Taiwan. The silks is made in Germany and Australia and the books. Now this is interesting which has happened very much in recent years where you've had more you might say free trade and the books we find are printed in mostly the US and Britain but many are also printed in Spain, Slovenia, Italy and Singapore and those are the more complicated multi-colored books, illustrated books and many are also typeset in South India where labor is cheaper but then printed elsewhere. I'll come back to this printing thing later on when I'm talking about US history. Perfumes are made in England, Australia, China, the talcum powder for it, some reason was made in China. Now we find another interesting range of things. Clothing, toys, a spanner, I think that's what you people call a monkey wrench or something. Anyway we call it a spanner. Screwdrivers, clips, shoes etc made in China. The bookcases originally made in Sweden, the ones which I bought earlier and the later ones are made in China and also now Vietnam. It's now starting to produce furniture at least we're getting it in Australia. Stools are made in Finland, pots and pans, Korea, writing pads, Indonesia and then when you look at the electronics, the higher big ticket items as you say, the reverse cycle air conditioner was made in Japan, the dishwasher was made in Italy at least until it clapped out and I had to get a new one, the fridge is from Italy, the washing machine very good it's lasted for years and years and years, it's made in Japan and the car is from Sweden and that's because my husband is very keen on safety otherwise most of our cars are made in Japan and now in Korea. All right okay how is Australia surviving with all these imports? I can assure you we're all alive and well and happy and flourishing. Okay now let's have a look at some of these items. Now I'll give you the answers straight away. What's happening is that for each of the countries that you're looking at, for each of the products that you're looking at, the firms involved are producing literally for a world market. Silk for example is now made is a complicated chemical product, it's not as simple as it looks and that is why you find the Germans, world suppliers of silk because they have since the late 19th century they're specialized in the production of chemicals. Again they're the world suppliers of things like fertilizers, pesticides, all sorts of chemicals everywhere. Even from the late 19th century onwards in the US you find that it was the German firms which were really the main suppliers of chemicals. All right I'll add another little story here about what governments cannot do. First world war all the German assets in the US were confiscated and handed over to American companies. 1918 onwards, guess what happened? The Germans returned to produce exactly the same things as they'd produced before 1914, the chemicals and so forth and although the American companies had all the assets they just could not compete. Second world war the same thing happened again. All the German assets in the US were confiscated, handed over to American companies, post 1945 what happened the Germans returned and again the American companies could not compete. The reason of course is because when you've been specializing in something for 125 years or more and supplying it to the world you know you become specialist and that is exactly what's been happening here if you have a look as I mentioned is that it's a repeat. Japan for example now supplies cars to the entire world. Now if you can think of producing I don't know how many hundreds of millions of cars that is and you think about the costs involved reduction in costs when you're producing on that scale. Obviously the world is going to get huge numbers of cars all produced very cheaply and more importantly what you're going to get is a much wider range of cars. In other words more specialized for the different kinds of taste requirements that people have in different parts of the world. Similarly with things like washing machines and computers and all these things you get range produced rock bottom costs because you're producing for the world and therefore again range of types available and of course much better quality keeps on improving year after year these products. Okay so that's what and you see here the other point I want to make is that you get countries joining the world economy as it were becoming additional regions in the world economy Vietnam now producing small items of furniture. All right another point I want to add is that China the big bogeyman is not a very large player the world is a hoe. See all these other countries also part of the world economy and again as I said producing for the world is a hoe China supplies only 21% of Chinese exports come to the US. What is it 89% or whatever 79% go to the rest of the world and why does the US get such cheap goods from China because China produces for the world is a hoe. It's selling clothing to the world as a hoe again think in terms of reduction in costs rate increase in range and variety and therefore the US also benefits. All right okay now to reinforce this to show what it is in reality I thought we might have a look also at the cotton clothing there's a jacket hanging up in Norma's laundry and I peered into it made in Hong Kong it said okay so what is made in China mean I'll tell you the answer in advance it means made by the entire world even the US is involved okay right cotton clothing label says made in China that's what the government requires made in China all right well you start with the clothing that's in your cupboard at home here in the US and we then move on is that the only copy I have is that sorry I haven't got my own copy okay all right the clothing in the cupboard here in the in the US all right next step you still have American investment American equipment whatever required to produce it and put it in your cupboard at home so you've got the people who are involved in the imports the retail shops your wholesalers etc etc the container ships which bring the goods from China to the US they don't fly from the factory to your cupboard okay those container ships are registered in Panama Liberia Greece Norway in Greece and Norway again world supplies of shipping services therefore much cheaper than anyone else certainly much cheaper than either the Australian or the US shipping services god bless us okay and the ships themselves are now made in Korea and Japan the containers I just looked it up are made in the US and the UK the labor on the ships comes from the less developed countries the Philippines various other less developed countries okay if you go to the docks in China the the clothing has to be taken to the docks the lorries or the trucks are all made in Japan the clothing factories are in China the cloth is made in China but where do the industrial sewing machines come from Japan Korea and also the US okay the cloth has to be dyed and finished the dyeing works are in China but where do the chemicals the dyes and all come from they come from Germany you need buttons where do the buttons come from again the factories are in China but the machinery to make the buttons is made in the US and Taiwan Hong Kong and so forth Japan is the world supplier of zippers it's impossible to buy a non-Japanese zipper so therefore you have best quality zippers you know produced at the least possible cost because again supplying good zillions to the world as a whole okay right now the cloth is woven and spun in China again where does the machinery come from it comes from Britain okay we transport in the shipping of the machinery to China again your shipping industry is involved you have then the cotton dealers who supply the raw cotton to the factories and the fact with the farms producing the raw cotton are Uzbekistan these days China Egypt which produces the world's best cotton and has produced the world's best cotton since the late 19th century so continues to do so and the US all right your government again US cotton is produced at I don't know five six seven times the world price so it's your subsidized cotton which is going to the Chinese factories to produce the cotton clothing which now comes back to the US again another little story earlier in the 60s and 70s and 80s first of all you had subsidized production of cotton in the US and therefore producing it again five or six times the world price then you had to sell it so you had an export subsidy to sell it at the world price Hong Kong factories bought US cotton at the world price and then of course sold the cotton of the clothing here in the US so then your department of commerce bless its heart added a countervailing tariff to offset the fact that it was buying US cotton at world prices so you have first of all a subsidy and then another sub the production subsidy and then an export subsidy and then you have a countervailing tariff so you know you where do you stop okay so but the cotton gins you need cotton gins to produce the cotton they made in the US world specialists again now all these farmers use again fertilizers pesticides and pesticides they all come from Germany and again you have to use world shipping to get all these inputs to the farmers in Uzbekistan and so forth the steel for the machinery and for the ships and the containers and so on which are produced are all made in Japan and Korea and finally that's where Australia comes in we supply the world with commodities we supply the world with foodstuffs meat grain etc and at prices again about one half to one third US prices once it's first my husband back in Australia but the price which I saw meat at in the supermarket here he was horrified he went around immediately to the supermarket at home and had a look and we find that the prices are about a half and the quality is much better so again it's your government which is getting in the way and preventing living costs from falling again very ordinary example before we reduce tariffs in Australia if I wanted to buy a jersey for Dennis I paid 60 or 70 dollars now that the tariffs have been removed and we are importing goods from China I pay I guess what 10 dollars for a jersey good quality jersey and in the hour I've got what 50 60 whatever dollars left over to buy other things with okay so when you read a label which says made in China it is not made in China it is made by the world economy by the globe as a whole nothing it is impossible to make anything you might say in one country and that is why as Mises pointed out the world the market economy does not respect political frontiers its field is the world starting with the stern age and now year 2006 what we have is a world economy okay now as we've already noticed that we've got specialisms appearing the specialisms which have lasted well over a century and therefore we get everyone gets benefits of specialized knowledge improving techniques building up of knowledge in particular areas okay now you say how are we going to compete with all these other countries the answer is of course you compete in producing goods that were not produced before the resources which went into high cost low quality cotton fabrics in Australia now go into the production of other things processed food stuff for example which we sell in Asia and we can sell it in Asia because Asian housewives believe that there is no pollution in Australia the food is very good quality it is pure food and therefore they're quite happy to buy you know biscuits and things made in Australia the other thing is you notice that on that on the list there I do have some Australian sheets now what is the difference between Australian and Indian has a linen the difference is in quality so that the Australian mills now specialize in producing very high quality clothing fabrics whatever and the ordinary everyday things you buy from China or India or wherever whoever supplies it the same thing the Swiss weren't able to do anything at all about the Japanese and other competitors and so now instead of producing cheap watches what they produce are very high quality very expensive watches that do all sorts of things you know tell you the time in about six different countries and in all sorts of bells and whistles so what's happened the world as a whole has got a much wider range of goods a range of cheaper watches if you want an range of very expensive better quality watches that do all sorts of other things if that's what you want okay and again it's specializing in things which you alone can supply only the Swiss can supply a couple of hundred years worth of expertise in producing really good quality watches and watch parts the Japanese produce math low quality stuff okay now another point I want to make is as I mentioned the time period over which all this has been developing I said the stern age but also we have in the 19th century 19th century we have the development real development of the world economy and that is because the Britain at that time followed a policy of unilateral free trade all other countries trading partners restricted British imports imports from Britain even its own colonies restricted imports from Britain New Zealand and the Australian colonies had restrictions on British manufacturers coming in and we're supposed to be the British Empire Whitehall could do nothing about it of course because these were sovereign colonies contradiction in terms no it's exactly the reality okay so as a result of that what you had was therefore a large part of the underdeveloped world as well which is part of the British Empire following the same policy of free trade and in all of these areas you had eventually the development of industries under both laissez faire and free trade the Indian cotton textile industry in fact is older than the Japanese the first Indian cotton mill was opened in 1851 or 52 the first Japanese cotton mill was opened in 1860 something so that the Indian cotton textile industries older than the Japanese complete free trade complete laissez faire and it produced cotton yarn and therefore you had expansion in the handloom industry in India and to this day the best textiles in the world are mill made yarn hand woven into various sorts of textiles the Indian textile industry also supplied cotton yarn to the handloom spinners in China and so therefore the Chinese handloom industry expanded and it was as a result of British shipping lowest cost shipping that you could get and therefore all this stuff intra-asian trade also developed amongst the less developed areas international specialization in other words is something which is to be embraced because it reduces costs increases variety okay 20th century of course we had problems and that is mainly because of the increased role of government officials and also because unfortunately the increased influence of the US US government and therefore first of all you raise trade barriers and then you go around higgling about how you're going to reduce those trade barriers which you raised in the first place lots of work for bureaucrats terrible for everyone else okay um the expansion of trade in specialization in the 20th century in other words has been despite the WTO despite GATT despite all these uh acronyms that bureaucrats produce right okay and of course you have the growth of multinational enterprises also as a part of the growth of international trade generally and the multinationals that survive are the ones which have been in in existence actually since the late 19th century and with the same specializations the jet the Germans produce chemicals and so forth the Americans produce things like sewing machines before 1914 the world's largest factory for producing sewing machines was the single sewing machine factory in Glasgow which sold all over the world and if you look at what the American multinationals produced it's things like lift elevators cash registers and a whole range of similar things so what you get in other words is again specialization in producing those things for which you have what the economists call comparative advantage your own skills which the rest of the world doesn't have right okay how much time do we have two minutes okay can i stop there okay any ask for questions i think yes not one thing to mention the word peace and i'm a student of thomas j wasp and i want to work for ibm in 1939 and he promoted the idea of world peace through world trade could you touch on that yeah what is the role of peace in world trade yeah um well the more interdependent you are the less likely you are to go to war i mean if you want to stop war you want to stop the people who start war it's only governments of benefit if you ask me wars are a giant conspiracy by all the governments involved against their respective populations yeah you know i mean i can't get a jet plane to go and sort of bomb my neighbor however much i'm like this like him the most i can do is you know perhaps to shoot him if i wanted to it's only governments who have the resources to go to war and it's only governments who benefit from war um a number of very good books are coming out now in germany pointing out that during the second world war the people who suffered were on the one hand the british and the other populations who were bombed by the germans and the germans who in turn were being bombed by the british and the americans and all the rest and so they're beginning to ask the question who benefited not the populations who were on it you know the receiving end of all these bombs it was obviously the two governments involved the various governments involved um so uh mesi's book on state first book that was that he wrote nation state and economy yeah he points out there that the reason germany lost to war was basically because it was so interdependent with the rest of the world that it was impossible to cut itself off and if you can't cut yourself off how are you going to have a war so the more interdependence the more trade the more peace very good thank you very much


Welcome to Holistic Wellness Revealed, I'm Letitia Sharp and I'm your host today as we bring on the writer and performer of an original work called You Might Think Less of Me, Jenny Fox. Welcome Jenny. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Of course. You know, I just want to start off by just getting real about something. Jenny, we haven't really talked a lot, like maybe a handful of times in the last five to ten years and I'm not even nervous about having you on the show or any questions. It's also natural to me because you're one of my dearest and closest friends from senior year in high school and the connection that we have is beyond. It goes beyond any kind of separation of distance, of words, of anything. This is a connection also that we forged, for lack of better words, during and maybe it was a forging of connections because it was during your senior year of high school, there was so much judgment and exploration and assumptions and so many things happening during that time in your life and I was relocated and you were just this beacon of kindness and openness and having gained that kind of friendship so early on, it was instrumental in my growth. So I am really grateful and very blessed to have you today. I can't believe I'm tearing up this is really special. Well, the same way Tish, you came out of nowhere and we're very nurturing to me at a time of life that I deeply, deeply benefited from that and so I can say the same way about you, especially at that phase of life that we connected for the first time. Yes, and might so many of our young females and males that are growing up in these times be able to have those kinds of connections that are lifelong over many lives, probably time, many lifetimes of connections. So sending that out there also as a prayer for all of our youth and adults if they haven't had a chance to experience such a thing. So let's move right into when I heard what you were working on, I was elated because this is a subject that's so near and dear to me because of a lot of our youth but also because of my own journey and you wrote and performed recently in May work called You Might Think Less of Me and the tagline right below that title is they judged her to pieces she fought to be whole and I just wanted to ask you a little bit can you give us a little information about your inspiration for this piece? Well I found myself you know in my late 40s feeling disjointed and disconnected physically, emotionally. I could definitely draw a thread through the reasons why my history, my journey through life, different relationships and all of that it was really visceral and I had already done a lot of really like cognitive-based work you know and counseling and just within myself about what had led me there but I had yet, there he is, there's the head, there's the head, perfect time, but I had yet to really explore on a physical level, moving that energy through and so I felt ready to do that but also scared to do that and was actually my counselor who had suggested to me that maybe explore it through performance even if I didn't actually end up putting in front of anybody so I just sort of kind of got creative like I would have when I was a little kid you know just kind of making up characters and different parts of my body and where do things live and where did I kind of internalize what message and started playing with it and then just got more and more inspired and excited and creative and just let things flow and and and didn't hit an edit button you know at that point. I love that I like what you said about you explored in your body well two things first of all you explored in your body where you were internalizing where these feelings lived that you wanted to move and that you wanted to release and what can you talk a little bit about that like what was that process like did you dance I know you do yoga also so you're comfortable with your body and moving and I'm sure that relationship is strong with yourself so what yeah what did that look like how did you find it like where did it live? Yeah well it looked a bunch of different ways rather than and that exploration kind of varied depending on what what body part I was kind of talking about so I'll be specific just to give an example so for example my belly right which shows the signs of motherhood which even before I was ever a mother you know my one of my first intimate partners when I was a young person had said to me that my body would be perfect if it weren't for this and actually grabbed a hold of my belly and this is actually a moment in in the piece that is illuminated that I used so I carried that literally from age 15 all the way through my entire life through motherhood get exacerbated by motherhood because then you know once we become mothers our bellies change and they show the warrior stripes no matter how we give birth right and so so I explored both where does that messaging come from in in the world so I did some kind of digging around like YouTube videos and and and who might you know who might stand in opposition to acceptance of the belly for example and then kind of looked at characters who out in the world in the real world and then started basing fusing my actual you know intimate partner who had said this with somebody out in the world that exists that I don't even know just based on their YouTube video and then just worked on fusing together and so then some time so in the case of my belly it wasn't necessarily like movement like yoga or or dance or like belly dancing or anything like that it was manifesting this character becoming it and then in that sense it's like an exorcism of that energy so it wasn't maybe as one might imagine like somehow like I did some massage on my belly or you know in all of these things are incredibly powerful ways of healing energy around parts of the body absolutely but but for this project in particular it it was more about like allowing almost like as if it were the exorcism of a demon right like this is what that manifests as and now I'm going to become that and so I'm both expelling that energy from my body and being the thing that's harming me at the same time and so it became creative and hopefully ultimately entertainment right because it was it's something I put in front of people but the the personal process began in in my mind I even got a bunch of books from the library on exorcism I was studying you know what that looks like in the history of it and and and you know how many people believe it's it's you know fictionalized and how many people believe it's real and so they're they're they're energetically there was a lot of energy around that like manifesting the the muck and then moving it out and through does that make sense right no that's fascinating and and the cool thing about that too is that some of the some of the training that I've received also is about how to find love with those parts of ourselves that we want to to have exercised exercised so um and once you and you did that through play right you did that through creativity like through finding that inner child and getting a real sense and a knowing so basically you did have a consult with that part of yourself and you gave them a way to be able to be out and if they do come back in you're super familiar right like you're so familiar with that part of you that now it doesn't even reside in the same way inside of you yes that is how it feels so uh it it is both what you said resonated in that it is both a an expelling of and also an embracing of right beautiful yeah I love that I love that a lot um so during this process what uh what kind of feedback did you get did you have to work through right I mean I'm sure not everybody was on board and I'm sure some people may have thought you were a little crazy how did you like how did you manage that because you were doing some really deep very vulnerable work yeah how did that well I started by being very selective who who I shared with that I was working on this and um you know my spouse and and life partner was the first to hear about it other than my counselor you know um and he was on board right away just like that sounds really interesting I cannot visualize what you're talking about but it sounds super interesting and go you know I think you should go for it um and then once I had a little bit more of of a sense although I didn't yet know what it would become just more of a sense of it I approached a director in town who I have admired for a long time Anne-Marie Perreth and she um co-runs a local theater company and I've long admired her her work and uh approached her and uh had lunch and just told her I was working on this thing and and I wasn't exactly sure yet how it was going to end up but when I had something that felt at all cohesive which be willing to be the first to put eyes on it in a in a theatrical sense and she said she would and that it sounded really interesting to her thematically even though again we weren't exactly sure what it would be so so I mean I was I was not you know sharing very broadly that I that I was working on something um you know again because it is a personal process and and you don't ever know I mean I'm fortunate and that I I really don't have people that I'm close to in my life that that wouldn't be supportive you know but but I even even among those people I you know I wasn't sort of talking broadly about it if that if that makes sense yeah and I think that brings up a really good point too because when we do have those parts of us that are vulnerable that we are working through that are sacred to us and feel tender I mean it's important it's a definite um it's a real thing people have to earn their place to be able to share certain parts of us you're not going to go into the coffee shop be like oh my gosh this is the most amazing release I just exercised this part of me and then people would be like oh my gosh like who is that woman and TMI right so and and then you wouldn't be received so I think that's also a really important message to get out to people that when you're going through these transformations and when you're going through these healings really is what it is and these revelations of healing you know be selective yeah yeah and and again not not out of shame you know it's definitely uh it it just you know it felt sacred yeah and and I guess for me as well and this this is broader than just you know my own experience with with the show is is how you know in in the age of of social media in particular you know how how how much sharing really is helpful and what is real sharing and you know um I don't you know I I think everyone has to answer that for themselves but I know I know for me um you know it's again not out of shame or like there are things that one should hide but for for me it feels more supportive to have like I'm going to sit down and have coffee with a specific friend and say hey I'm going through this thing and I want you to know that and then have that you know in person and and and doing that with one individual feels you know more supportive for me than than going larger or or quantity yeah and even checking in with yourself of who's that individual you know and have you established that kind of true authentic connection right and um and then you let the your final masterpiece I say final but it's really always a work in progress right uh then you let that speak and people can either take that or leave that and it's on them right it's just something that you created and share yeah and and I think too like the folks that gravitated towards seeing the the piece for example um it was interesting because um with the exception of those that felt obligated to go you know like people that I was really close to know them you know they're trapped into going but um for those that that came about it more randomly it was interesting just to see even on an energetic level like what who who's sort of drawn to the fire if you will right yeah particular bonfire this form their hands and um and that was that was a beautiful part of the process too was was that sharing you know so right and just see that unfolding and and just even the ahas and the moments of magic that come across people's faces and that sort of wash over their whole being you can see an energetic wash when that happens and I love I love seeing that yeah it's a beautiful thing to witness right yeah yeah so I think that one of the other things I want to touch on with you is you said the stories and um there's a lot of talk and all of the circles of healing about our stories and really um you know this this story of your 15 year old self that you were perfect except for you know and then how impressionable that is for us at certain times in our lives I was told I I couldn't sing and I definitely should not do that in front of anybody else and um just this morning I had my Japanese exchange students telling me what an amazing beautiful voice I had and I just giggle you know I'm like you only do you know yeah so I mean those stories I think can you speak a little into that because that feels really like a great message to be able to share for for me personally um the intellectual knowing that certain stories uh are are false or were false uh came before the visceral knowing and I'm still on the journey of the visceral knowing I absolutely understand intellectually and through words and language and rationally why you know certain um stories that I've told myself that we tell ourselves all of us right um like you highlighted you know uh I'd be perfect if it weren't for you know I think we can all relate pretty well to that story uh so much of it um and and I think most of us when we highlight it we can we can pretty easily identify that it's false you know well I get that it's false I get it but uh to to really feel it you know in in in one's body for me for example to to not have my my stomach go into knots you know if if in and you know maybe my intimate partner is going to caress my abdomen and to not oh they're gonna find out that there's something wrong with me right like that's visceral that's in the body that's trauma that's trauma right because it you know and this is again just one example that that that I'm sharing um but I think for me it's an ongoing process so yeah for all of us for all of us yeah of of the difference between I get it I know it I understand it I really do you know um and then to integrate that or or or even not necessarily integrate but just to maybe approach it differently and I think that's where I'm at with it is is that that for so much of my life I really believed that if I could just get it down up here you know that things would shift and um and and that has not been my personal journey you know um yeah and so many people do and I think that's a really great point too is because so many people want to understand they're trying to understand they're trying to learn they're doing the books they're doing the workshops they're doing the retreats they're doing all the things except for and what it really comes down to right is how we judge ourselves because that's what happens maybe it's something that somebody said and they may have just set it on the fly like they didn't really mean it first of all there is no such thing as perfection okay and second of all right that I mean let's just go there but second of all then we grab onto it right and we hold it and we believe it and then we start judging ourselves you know and that's I think that's where coming in with all of those stories that we talked all that self talk that we yeah yeah yeah so being able to get that self talk out into a creative expression was great I wish that I could say are you gonna do it again are you gonna do more performances oh we are gonna do more with it I we don't have anything scheduled just yet so I'm not sure when where how but we're in the process of figuring that out I would love it if we could just bring up your website um you might think less of me.org if anyone is interested in finding out more about this and I want to just touch base with in that picture if you can see people it looks like she's wearing a bathing suit that's not a bathing suit those are the parts of her that have been removed and they're on the ground beside her and this is really they're separate from her I want to make sure to give credit the credit is on that image but I want to make sure to say it out loud to the visual artist Raouf Hagigi who did that drawing and who generously gave me permission to use his image in association with the show so it's beautiful and it says so much I mean you don't yeah they're parts that were basically dissected through experiences of life that were perpetuated through our thoughts right and through our stories and our own judgments so um yeah I just I can't wait to see more of this and I can't wait to see the movement that this original work of yours um generates in adults and in young people and and men and women and everyone because we all have that healing to be able to do and I just like I said I was ecstatic when I heard that you were doing this work and making it available like it's available and it feels friendly you know it doesn't feel so scary and from what I hear it's it's funny too is it your show pretty parts that are pretty funny right it is satirical for sure um yeah there's some parts that that that folks folks laugh quite a bit so and that's enjoyable yeah so I love that definitely hope it it uh it benefits others and that people find it both entertaining and supportive so yeah well I cannot wait until you and I can sit down and have a cup of coffee and thank you talk and just connect again on that physical level without distance and at the same time I feel that deep sacred connection with you now and always actually and I and just thank you so much for this contribution to healing of the world and putting out there things on um because I saw this through your social media and even if you wouldn't have invited me personally uh that may have been my only way to be able to see it so these are the things that we do want to perpetuate and use social media for so that we can continue to spread the good word of healing and journey and um yeah support indeed well thank you so much tish thank you and I look forward to when I can give you a big hug in person yes so um yes enjoy this beautiful day and thanks again for your contribution and sharing and um I can't wait to see more of this and I really hope that you do another performance or maybe put it out in some kind of like have video clips or do something so that it can get out there bigger thank you thanks tish I appreciate it mahalo and um to all of our sponsors and our donors uh and to think tech thank you so much for giving us a platform and supporting us to be able to have these important conversations these conversations that bring light to healing 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