Perfect. After that wonderful introduction, I will suck, but my panel will be amazing.  We'll blow that.  You're known as the People's Doctor and you cover these issues every day. You cover it nationally and internationally. How do you approach what to do stories on? How do you figure out which of the stories to tell? And how can advocates best work with you to get their stories out? Because I think what in politics we see all the time is the most important, most interesting thing is third-party stories. What people, stories that touch your heart that move you and you cover these every day. So tell us a little bit about how you do that. So before trying to look for what is going to have the highest rating, I actually try to see what is the best for the audience. What is the best for the other patients, people that might have a situation like that, and how can they benefit of what I'm telling them, of the advices that we are providing. So sharing terrible stories in order to prevent it to happen again. And I feel that that as influencers, the way that we are called now, that's one thing that we have to do. Where's that line? It's an interesting line between journalist and influencer. Because you really are influencing people, policy changes. It's not traditional, I'm a recovered journalist I'm happy to say. And I decided I was way too partisan for that, so got out of it. But that's not a traditional journalist to grow. Where is that line and how do you see it? I think a journalist needs to do a lot of research and always give both sides of the story. And that's something very important that's real in media all the time. And we have a lack of it. Unfortunately, if we wanted to listen to exactly the same happening and you listen to it in Fox and in CNN, you will listen to something completely different. So in healthcare and in health news, we need to be absolutely no biased. And that we have to tell the facts exactly how they are. And we have to open the microphone to every part. And I think what a journalist needs to do is that. And in traditional media, fortunately, we have this credibility that sometimes many new influencers do not have. That background and all that thing that they have to do the research to present the facts to the audience. That makes total sense. Maribi, you've been on both sides of this now. Hard breakingly, you have a long career as a journalist and you're on the other side.  I was spending time online looking at the incredible outpouring of people who that story struck. Did you approach that as a parent? Did you approach that as a grieving mother? Did you put your journalistic hat on? All of them and how did you decide to make that decision? Well, the first thing to say is that I'm obviously not a health journalist. I don't have that experience. I do something else at The Guardian, I edit the magazine. And when Martha died, I knew immediately I would write about it. Like I'm telling you within seconds, I thought I will write about this and I will tell people what happened because I knew what happened. I'd been there, I'd witnessed it and it felt like the only power that I had. And I have to say it felt like a privilege to be in that situation to think, I can actually tell this story and it's happened to other people. And even in explaining it to my friends, I would kind of go over and over what happened. But even they I think sometimes I think at first they might even have thought, well that's not, I'm sure the doctors did do right. But I needed to tell the story. I needed to do it and I was lucky to be able to do it. And I thought about it for a year alongside my husband, who's also a journalist. I would literally walk along the street crying, thinking about what I was going to say, picking up my phone, writing things in it. And you know at the same time we were approaching the series incident report, I wanted every fact, every fact and I wanted it to be exactly right, no complaints possible. So the series incident report was important to that and we asked question after question after question so that we had those answers and that we could write about it in an honest way. I'd also say that as a reader my whole life I've seen these stories in the news and I would say that I've read them in that sort of shock where all this terrible thing happened to someone else. But that'll never happen to me. And you know your eyes of glaze over you see it in the news or this kid died and you know you don't really always fully engage with it and I thought I really, really want people to engage with this. And that's what I spent a lot of time doing is thinking how am I going to get people to read this and understand what's happened. I want to sneak in stuff about how amazing Martha is. But right at the top I deliberately said I'm going to tell you stuff that will help you navigate healthcare and might even save your life. And I did that on purpose because I thought this is going to be 3000 words and I want you to keep going to the end and right at the end I'm going to tell you something that you need to know. And it was extremely well read and The Guardian nearly three million people read it over the first weekend. And you know the metrics you can see that they can read it mostly to the end. And I think that that was why because I was trying to say this happened to me but by the way you're going to have somebody in hospital at some point and I'm going to tell you some information and you know I was saying to people what I wish I'd done which is I mean I did look things up on the internet but really look things up on the internet. You know get a second opinion get a third opinion if you're in doubt scream the war down these that these are the things which I was sort of wanting to communicate. And I also wanted to do something and I think this is another reason why the piece was very well read because it wasn't just that it was a shocking story although it is a shocking story. And this is this is the difficult thing to say in a room full of doctors which is that I was trying to write something which changed the conversation in the media about how we talk about doctors and certainly in the UK and possibly around the world. I feel that there's a kind of extreme to it. There's like heroes and we just come out of Covid and I had we'd had two years of like heroes heroes heroes heroes heroes or Shipman Harold Shipman being you know the notorious serial killer doctor and there's nothing in between that you know in the conversation and I wanted to say doctors are human and they make mistakes and they and they're also human in the sense that sometimes they can be complacent and arrogant and those were factors in Martha's death you know as the serious incident report at the hospital and so I was trying to open up the conversation about how we talk about doctors as well as help people navigate the health system as well as tell people what happened to Martha. You've now made the transition you're now an advocate. You're trying to pass Martha's law you're working to do things like this which are incredibly hard very different from what you've done in your day job. How difficult was that evolution? Have you made peace with it? I've not made peace with it you know this is it's not always easy to go you know you've just asked me would I go on Mexican TV and talk about it and actually it takes a lot out of you to keep going over the story again and again sometimes I worry is this good for me you know is it good for my grief which is still very much ongoing. I you know it's it's really hard I want I want to do it to help others I also don't want you know I want I don't want Martha's life to be in vain I don't want it to be nothing but it it's hard and it's it's frustrating you know you you meet people in in healthcare and they say you know yes this is really important this is really important but then you know it's also kicked into the to the long grass because there are the more important things for you know this is talking about Martha's Martha's rule to spend money on so you know and I do I do have a full-time job and and I am you know there was a point when I thought I would never go back to work and do my job after Martha died but I do and I I appreciate it and I appreciate it in some ways that it is nothing to do with this because sometimes I need to take my mind off it and going to work and doing other types of journalism is important to me because it's a distraction so this is not my full-time life and I'm not sure I want to be but I but it is important to obviously share the stories I'm just being honest about no this how you know how hard it is and I know there are other parents here to just keep sort of going over and over it again have you had positive reception from both administrators but more importantly politicians and well that's an interesting question so after I wrote the piece I I got a really extraordinary reaction from a lot of people some people in this room a lot of doctors who said you know I correctly identified the problems and processes and the hierarchy and all the all the different you know the arrogance all the things that can contribute to a death and that was very that was very rewarding and then separately to that and this is important for me to mention because I think that there's it's very revealing there's a Reddit thread about by junior doctors about the piece which is very long and has some very revealing comments on it I actually just wanted to read some of them because I think this is part of the problem and it's the sort of truth is so this is the patient's degree of entitlement and inability to accept mistakes is just simply unsustainable wholly incorrect and an enormous burden here's another one this is why I don't work in pediatrics parents are awful and sad for the parents but people die and that's life and there was another one which went on to say you know if they'd asked for this that and the other if they'd specifically asked whether intensive care was needed that might have worked thing is I highly doubt most members of the public would be able to articulate on that level as my mic on but the reason I'm reading that is because that has to be a part of the conversation you know there's this hidden world where people are saying these things and it's wonderful that some people here come up to me and say you know we're changing this is happening new generation but these are junior doctors this is this is a young group of people who read that piece which is based on you know which the hospital itself wouldn't argue with is based on the serious instant report there's been an external report you know all of it is factually accurate as a journalist I made sure that's the case and to have that kind of reaction exist is a real problem in healthcare that kind of education making sure people understand that is why this is the one thing I do every year because I think this panel every year is a time to have all of you tell your stories and how you think about these things and I think that kind of education is why I believe so deeply in the patient safety movement making sure across the entire spectrum I love someone this morning said from the caregiver all the way to the top to the president the hospital everyone needs to know this stuff it has to be all the way around and I know it's incredibly difficult to tell your story but that's why we do this beforehand we were about to go up you said I have some things to say no I've said them now okay good all right I just want to make sure that with that that is that is you know my husband I talk about doing another piece and and and and sort of the reaction is kind of the interesting part of it not just the sort of positive reaction but the negative reaction is worth talking about as well yeah I agree we'll come back to this David I want to pick on you for a second because you're both a doctor of neuroscience and a writer who now tries to explain these complex topics you know how do you view both sides of that how do you straddle that and how do you find and tell these stories well I think and this came up lots of many times yesterday I think one of the most important things of trying to convey lots of patient safety stories is just having those patient groups and those patient advocates and those incredibly powerful stories because you know let's take something like implementation science you know that's one of the most important topics in patient safety you know we get these incredible new treatments which come through we kind of go through and we sort of develop lots of rigorous best best practices but how do we actually incorporate that into healthcare systems and as we all know that can take years decades and sometimes it never happens but if as a journalist I'm trying to write a story about implementation science I mean it's probably going to be hard to get that past my editor because it comes across as a fairly dry topic you know how do you write that in an engaging way which really will make someone want to read likes of a thousand fifteen hundred two thousand words on that topic and I think if you if you actually have a tangibly example if you can say this is why you know we need this because when it failed this particular mistake was made or even like so on on the other hand you know like so by putting this best practice into place this positive event might have happened this person's life was saved in this instance suddenly that makes that story really come to life and just for the reader it really sort of illustrates why these things are important so I think for me likes of as a journalist that's you know a lot of the time that's what I look for you know likes of a patient safety is incredibly broad likes a diverse likes a topic but you know you really need those kind of specific tangible examples those specific human stories I mean I actually found it likes of really interesting likes yesterday and likes one of the panels where I think it was Liam Dollison who said that you know likes of if there's say one particular thing which we could achieve so for example eradicating sepsis you know that would really drive momentum and it's just the same likes of in the media I think the media needs you know a kind of a cause likes to get behind you know patient safety just as a topic is is so so broad but you need to be able to kind of focus on very specific examples of this and and highlight this is a particular problem here this is a solution this is a change we can drive let's get really nitty gritty for a second because I think it'd be interesting to people in the room how do you find your ideas do advocates come to you do you find them like how does that work and and if you're giving advice to advocates to tell their story what would your advice be honestly I mean stories can come from all sorts of places it can be just speaking with people at summits and conferences like this one it can be sometimes people reaching out to me sometimes I'll see a twitter thread or a reddit thread and I'd be like that is something really important I need to try and like investigate that I mean this is actually why patient groups can make such a massive difference I mean I'll just give the example of a story which I wrote earlier this year for the telegraph I did like a long read for them about benzodiazepines and all over the world likes we have this problem where these incredibly addictive drugs people end up on them for likes of years decades and there's whole likes of facebook groups there's one called beating benzos which is full of thousands and thousands of stories of people who've been taking these medications and have ended up like developing likes of essentially long-term brain damage over the course of like years or likes of decades but in the whole scientific community this isn't studied because you know in the UK likes of you're not able you shouldn't be able to take benzos for more than 28 days and so no one actually studies what happens if you're on like her benzodiazepine for 20 years and what that actually does to the brain so as a journalist you have to kind of then just go to the patient stories and that just sheer mountain of anecdotal evidence it shows that's a problem here and this is a story we need to cover and I wouldn't have written this really if I hadn't happened to discover this amazing facebook group which is just full of always very very powerful facebook stories and yeah it led me to kind of delve deep into this and I found that this has been like a massive systemic problem in the UK which had been highlighted repeatedly since like the late 70s early 80s and there hasn't really been like any interventions either put for by the medical community or you know regulators and likes of policymakers to try and likes to tackle it and say you know I think often it's through those patient groups that these things actually come to life and I'm I always do say to patients I mean please do come to me I'm really interested in hearing like see your stories and where you're coming from because ultimately that's what I need to be able to write these things. You and Maripy both referenced a couple things we just did research on how where journalists get their information and Reddit was one of them that I wouldn't have expected Twitter's obviously the predominant one that most people may not be on the Facebook is another one it really is interesting where you find your stories and I think helpful to everyone as they go through this. Dr. Ramsey had a question that he put here that I think super smart and I wanted to ask you is patient safety newsworthy only when it's a tragedy or is it newsworthy at other times too? That's a very good question I think it tends to you know obviously I'm a freelancer I work for the telegraph but also like a lot of other news organizations and news organizations everyone obsessively monitors their metrics you know even publicly funded likes of organizations like the BBC they will only really commission a story if they can be fairly certain that it's going to get those hundreds of thousands of reads which is why you tend to get certain topics coming up likes of a gain and a gain and likes of well other topics never really appear it's entirely due to likes of the hits and I think in some ways likes of you know the sad truth of that is it kind of almost takes a tragedy to make the news because people know that it you know it will point to be it will pull on heartstrings people will actually read that I mean I do think that is very much likes of a role for the positive stories for where things have actually likes of you know gone well and how we can like to use that as an example for for change like around the world I mean the Guardian did like sort of a wonderful project like so the few years ago called the upside where they actually just highlighted something amazing across the world of like science medicine likes of technology likes of which you know was making a positive difference so I think those stories there is very much like a place of them but I do think in in some ways it's it is an unfortunate reflection of likes of the news world where you know it does tend to be a negative stories but at the same time it is those negative stories which actually really prompt people to stand up say we need to make a difference and which is you know which is why we're all here thank that's right I'm a resident of the best city in San Francisco in California called San Francisco and I was excited about Jessica because every night I've watched her for years and she's explained all these things to everyone on NBC and around the Bay Area you got to cover the biggest health crisis of our generation you got to tell all these stories what did you learn during all that and how did how did that change the way you cover health care in terms of covid you know covid was such a real-time global exercise for all of us on every single level whether you were a doctor or a journalist I mean I remember when we were just starting to talk about some something that was happening on the other side of the world and and then to see it start occurring in the Bay Area when we had that first cruise ship come in with all those passengers which is really when we first started to realize what the magnitude of what this was going to be for all of us and it required such a shift and such an ability for us to be able to temper how we covered something that had such a global and potentially deadly impact on so many people without raising the level of hysteria and trying to kind of mitigate that this is the knowledge that we know and this is what we don't know and I think that really required of journalists for us to be very open with the fact that there were a lot of things that we didn't really understand and we had to ask a lot of questions as we were also changing the dynamic of our newsrooms because we were being put in covid lockdowns we were put we were being put in situations where you know we weren't I know that I had to I had to drive with a letter that allowed me to be on the freeway because I still had to go to work and those the only way if we were stopped we were in that one Gavin Newsom closed down the state it changed the dynamic and the level of you know fear was so overwhelming for everyone and that I think did open the door for us as journalists those of us like I've covered medical stories in the past but now the entire newsroom had to know how to cover a medical story had to understand what the doctors were talking about you know the the different protocol so that was uh I think that was a a really changing point in newsrooms of having to be more connected to the medical community and to be able to discuss it in a way that was both educational both realistic investigative and also to be able to highlight some of the good things that were happening too so that we could offer some beacon of light in a moment that was probably one of the darkest moments we've had in a really long time since 9 11 probably also come it was one of those where we were collectively looking at it and being frightened you know you had one other element you didn't talk about which is politics because in the middle of this yes very honestly you didn't know everything we were learning things information was changing what the CDC was changing where's that line where how did you deal with a line between misinformation politics and just trying to be a journalist right and that was a really difficult situation too because you did have a political element you know we had a political element in 9 11 as well though but here all of a sudden we had this you know we had Dr. Fauci you know who became so famous and became a household name for everyone but there was we were learning about the pandemic and learning about COVID and so yes the problem is we had to keep couching every single day saying this is what we know right now but this could change right and it did change on a day to day basis and then there was a political element to it that really I will say I'll be honest it undermined the very job that we were trying to do and then sites like I'll tick tock or you're talking about social media social media sites that were rampant with misinformation really contributed to the difficulty of the job and it was you know being out in the public when we were and being told that we were given we were giving fake news about this pandemic anywhere we went when I'm not a healthcare professional I mean I may have been a medical correspondent but I'm not a doctor so we're trying to give you the best information that we can based on the doctors that are giving us information but the doctors didn't really even know at that point all the information about it so it was a difficult landscape to navigate and I think all those you know misinformation about vaccinations and people being put in camps and I mean some of the stuff was just so wacky they were rounding up people they were going to take your children I mean this is what we dealt with on a daily basis with people calling it and saying oh you know they're rounding up children don't put them on a school bus because they're going to take them and put them in a camp and you're thinking what I mean come on where does this come from I call those I call those voters for the other side right well it depends let me ask you let me ask you one more question because you do cover healthcare a bunch how do you find your story same question I asked David and do people come to you if you had advice to give to people out there that want to tell their story what would your advice be so my station has one of the largest investigative units in the country and we do do a lot of medical stories and a lot of them are you know that stories that are database that we get either from calling information from the public health department or from CMS but the investigative piece that I did which is the reason that actually I worked with Dr. Ramsey on was one that came to me through a tragic loss and the pettersons are here of a family in the Bay Area who Melissa Petterson is actually the patient story in the next panel and it was I was approached by Melissa who called me not long after her son died her daughter went in for a kidney transplant at UCSF and her son was the donor and they went in it went through all the protocol her son was a healthy 28 year old went through the protocol they went in they had a successful transplant at October 23rd of 2015 successful transplant and within 14 hours the donor was dead and that was just because of us and it is kudos to you for being able to stand here and be on this panel because having gone through this with Melissa and her family and having them have to air and discuss in detail the 14 hours and with her son died and for Melissa's daughter Kelly to be the recipient and know that she's alive because her and her brother died is an agony that that family had to relive with me during a course of a two-year investigation and if because of what they did and they were able to speak and just quickly what happened at the hospitals they ended up overdosing onters when they changed his medication from fentanyl to delotted they didn't they made a mistake and prescribed him 400 percent dosage more and all the what should have been the steps in between to mitigate that were overlooked his vitals weren't checked he was vomiting nobody checked it there were 30 missteps in the car in 14 hours and it was Melissa who realized her son wasn't breathing even though there was a nurse in the room so there's this whole system failure that happened but Melissa and her family came forward to talk about this and and in the in the situation of transparency even after onters was taken off life support the hospital went into its adverse reaction mode which i'd really have to say if there's journalists and as someone who communicates at maryp you will understand this as well very clearly adverse when we say bad outcome or adverse you know adverse reaction or or a bad outcome i know it's the lexicon of doctors but the truth is the translations for that is someone died and a family is shattered yes and she can poor outcome and she can't and she can't go on with her life i i just talked to you before we came out here and i said the story's agonizing and you said to me the agony continues unless a pettersons agony continues kelly pettersons agony continues we need to call it what it is which is a death yeah and a destruction of a family and um so onters was not on continuous uh monitoring and dr ramsey we talked to dr ramsey for our series that we did you know we went over thousands and thousands of medical records and page and pages and everything and we had to turn to dr ramsey because we could not get although off the record we had 10 doctors look at the records and say yeah they overdosed and they made this mistake they made the mistake we couldn't get a doctor to step forward on camera and say it and i think that's the transparency issue if we're going to move forward in this we just have to be able to be transparent and melissa petterson which you will hear later said something very powerful she said if they just would have told me they made a mistake from the beginning and apologized i wouldn't have sued them what i wanted was for them to admit that they made a mistake what they kept saying is oh he had a genetic heart flaw he had this he had that he didn't have any of those things we looked at his autopsy we went through all of his reports so i think there's a i think that's important for and i think something that mario was trying to say is they made the mistake yes to her as human but i think one of the things she wanted is for them to be able to come forward and say yeah we made a mistake and we have to fix it and we will fix it and i think that's a lot of what your point in that story was is that you just want accountability and then rectify you know a way to rectify it so the number one question asked online right now is a question that you were just talking about which is do you as journalists get access to c-suite people in healthcare facilities or is there just a wall once you start reporting on this with in our case there was a wall we there was a complete wall once we started um obviously as investigative journalist we spent a lot of time investigating without you knowing um and once we had already gone through all the facts and we had really assembled the story and we knew that every detail in our story had been fact checked and multi fact checked and multi fact checked then we went to the hospital and it was a wall it was a wall for melissa when her son died when she the day after she came back from the hospital she called the hospital and asked for his medical records and she got six pages six pages it took her three years to get the 40 000 plus pages of medical records and then it took us two years to go through those medical records and ask for supplemental records and get more information to be able to put our investigation so it we do we do hit a wall and then it's how do we and it was because of the patient safety movement at dr ramsey that we were able also to be able to really understand the medical records in a way um that allowed us to tell the story properly so because we have a couple brits on the panel um i want to do a little harry potter first uh we're going to wave our magic wand and and say one thing that you if you could change anything about the health care system what would you change and i'll start um you know i now because the technology feels safer in my car than i do in the hospital and the thing i would change is i'd have non-invasive monitors for every patient so you know vital signs the entire time in case something were to happen which no one's expecting that's my and you know that's changed in 10 years when i ran the campaign to pass obama care we didn't even know that was a thing we probably would have tried to deal with that too that's my harry potter magic wand diane do you have one i totally do agree with you regarding technology but i think that it's also very important to empower patients to make sure that they understand the treatment that is given to them empower them to ask questions because i as i heard uh from i believe it's uh janica who was saying that you want to be liked by your health care providers so you don't want to bother them but it's important to to ask and make sure and we as journalists and people who can talk to the to the people tell them ask raise your hand so i think that's also very important you should do everyone should do what i do which is before i go to the hospital for me or my family i call joe keonnie which is very helpful and joe walks and joe walks get yourself yeah what to do and now patient safety has an app that they have that that says exactly that i literally give to my family to say here the questions to ask here the things you need to know because you know merpy you wrote about this you know people just tell you the doctor's right just you know don't ask questions it'll be okay or what's your i'm sure you have several harry potter wands here i could i could go on but i would say probably more honesty in all aspects of health care both when you're there as a patient equality being talked to like you're on their level um and then afterwards if something goes wrong the honesty you know that duty of candor has been introduced in the uk a law which obliges hospitals to tell the truth they still don't by the way you know that they still can be very obstructive but isn't it a problem that we needed a law passed to just get honest information after something goes wrong that's and that it's still not followed you know people contact me all the time now and say this is what happened to me and i'm not getting any any you know information so yeah honesty both in the setting honesty and equality between patients and health care providers doesn't seem like too much to ask for does it doesn't know you shouldn't need a magic wand for honesty david i think one of the things i would change so for the pharmaceutical industry in the uk there's a database called disclosure uk and they have to basically disclose all possible likes of conflicts of interest and lots of other things and that makes it a lot easier for journalists to hold pharma companies to account and i think in many ways there's a great need for something similar in health care really where you know if there was like a database where hospitals had to like to declare you know likes of adverse incidents medical errors things like that that again would make it a lot easier for journalists to delve into these stories identify like so where harm is happening and it will make it much easier to draw attention to like many of these things that's a great idea jessica i would say um two things one um i think journalists and doctors share something um that we often don't talk about as a journalist is like when you're in that um newsroom and you're dealing with so many negative things that happen in the world we tend and this is the truth we we tend to um create an environment we do this in newsrooms where we protect ourselves from the overwhelming nature of what we're talking about all the time by being flippant disconnected and you know this from being in a newsroom right we we i mean in a newsroom you will hear things that sound very crass sometimes and you're talking about people's lives right and i always try to remind you know younger journalists that are coming up that i always remind them every story you do is actually about someone's life so you have to maintain that humanity all the time and always look at every person that you're interviewing is someone who is going through something horrible and i think that's what mario is talking about is you as a doctor sometimes you're you're harried you're running around you've got 15 patients nurses the the bells are ringing you got to remember you're still talking about someone's life and someone's family and someone's mother someone's husband right and i think so bringing that humanity that prism and always looking at it through that prism would be a really important thing for all of us to do both as journalists and as doctors and anyone in the medical profession and then on a practical level technological uh technology level what i've learned is that continuous pulse oximeter i think that is the key you know anders peterson would be alive today if he had that and and awareness is so important because i recently i went to get a medical procedure done and the first thing i walked in the door and i was like where is my pulse oximeter i'd like it now and people laugh but no no it is the truth right and they were like we don't give it to you for this i'm like i'm demanding it i want it now or i'm not having the procedure and you know they kind of rolled their eyes at me it was like there is the crazy lady who wants the pulse oximeter you know i want to go to the dermatologist and i want to get a pulse oximeter do you do that for botox let me know okay i mean uh but i just think that's your point is we have to be our own advocates as well and as families we have to be our own advocates and this is this is the lesson i've learned um we have one minute left mary v i want to end with you so you're talking about writing a second piece what would that piece be and and what's what's the future here um well as i said it's partly about it would partly be about the reaction to the first piece uh it it's also about grief you know um actually one thing i would say is that um when you said about the family going over it for you at the time when i wrote that first piece people were saying to me it must have been really hard to dredge that up all over again and i would say i wasn't dredging it up at that point because i was living it every single night in bed i was thinking about it there was no dredging it was right there and you know if another sort of eight months on it's less present but but in some ways telling the story becomes a kind of um it's a helpful part of the process for patients actually it's it it helps to know that other people can understand and um understand what you've gone through so um yeah and it's partly about martha's rule and uh and it's it's partly about uh the reaction and um it's partly about grief about losing a child and and you know how awful that is dad's story is why we all do this that stories why all these journalists on the panel are so important i think you all can agree with me this has been an amazing panel thank you very very much


Caramel coloring may be the most widely consumed food coloring in the world. Unfortunately, its manufacture can sometimes lead to the formation of a carcinogen called methylmitazol, which was identified as a cancer-causing chemical in 2007. And so for the purposes of their Prop 65 labeling law, California set the daily limit at 29 micrograms a day. So how much cancer might caramel-colored soft drinks be causing? We didn't know until now. 110 soft drink samples were tested off-store shelves in California and around New York. None of the carcinogens was found in Sprite, for example, which is what you'd expect since it's not caramel-colored brown. Among sodas that were, the highest levels were found in Goya brand soda and the lowest in Coke products, about 20 times less than in Pepsi products. Interestingly, California Pepsi was significantly less carcinogenic than New York Pepsi, presumed because of the law in California. This supports the notion that labeling laws like Prop 65 can incentivize manufacturers to reduce foodborne chemical risks, rather than just wish they could all be California. To protect consumers around the rest of the country, federal regulations could be a valuable approach to reducing excess cancer risk. But how much cancer are we talking about? Johns Hopkins researchers calculated the cancer burden, an estimate of the number of lifetime excess cancer cases associated with the consumption of the various beverages. So at the average U.S. soda intake, with the average levels of carcinogens found, Pepsi may be causing thousands of cancer cases, especially non-California Pepsi products, which appear to be causing 20 times more cancer than Coke. Of course, no need for any of them to have any carcinogens at all, but we don't have to wait for government regulation or corporate social responsibility. We can exercise personal responsibility and just stop drinking soda altogether. Cutting out soda may reduce our risk of becoming obese and getting diabetes and fatty liver disease and hip fractures and rheumatoid arthritis and chronic kidney disease and maybe gout as well. In children, daily soda consumption may increase the odds of asthma five-fold and increase the risk of premature puberty in girls, raising the likelihood they start getting their periods before age 11 by as much as 47%. If you look at the back of people's eyes, you can measure the caliber of the arteries in their retina and the narrower they are, the higher the risk of high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart disease. If you do these kinds of measurements on thousands of 12-year-olds and ask them about their soda drinking habits, children who consume soft drinks daily had significantly narrower arteries. So the message to patients can no longer just be eat less, exercise more, it matters what you eat. Specific dietary advice should be to significantly reduce the consumption of processed food and added sugar, and to eat more whole foods.


Mr. Jeff Zambello Commodore Jeff Zambello Thank you for Attending this wonderful seminar. It was fantastic. I thought it was really great and My buddy Jeff Zambello. He's my hero. He drove 16 hours from from the Canadian Maritime Provinces in a subcompact car New Brunswick, New Brunswick, Canada. He's originally from Boston. My buddy Jeff Zambello I have a question. I have an idea for a new mace design Do you think maybe that the knob of the mace can be fashioned into a dildo for women? I think it'll be very Multifunctional and and it would go over big it was so like hotcakes if the knob was a Fashion into the the head of a penis a little let's take a look at that knob. It's just a plain old ball I mean, I think I think a dildo on the end of this would be fantastic And I think it would it would make a great maybe late-night infomercial All right Thank you Jeff Zambello


Residents of Treadmore Estate in Lube area of Abuja are protesting the planned demolition of buildings in their estate. They are demanding that the government improve the waterways in order to tackle the persistent flooding in the area instead of demolishing buildings. Speaking on behalf of the residents, Adewale Adeleide said, Treadmore is not a disaster zone but a leadership of the FCTA which, he said, has failed to address persistent flooding in the area. Part of Treadmore Estate was commissioned by the Federal Government of Nigeria. Where is the illegality? That is the question we are asking the public. Treadmore Estate is not a disaster zone. Yes! Rather what we have is a leadership disaster in FCTA who are too shy to think who are unable to carry out their primary responsibilities. This at the person who declared this estate a disaster zone is the permanent secretary of FCTA. And he did not even enter the estate. He did not carry out any investigation. He came with a group of about 20 legs of jeeps and high loxies. As soon as they started running, he ran away. He ran away, we have the videos, we have the evidence, he ran away. And on arrival in his office he called you the president and said this is a disaster zone. Whereas he is the creator of the disaster zone. What we need is the implementation of the already provided solutions to the flooding. It is not an easy game that the FCTA administration is trying to play here.


Okay, so I've got my one iPad on Periscope. Oh wow. Holy cow That one has a sound Let's see if we can do this one for YouTube. It's so weird searching for my name. Good morning everybody We're having some technical difficulties this morning Because you know, that's you know, I have a black thumb with technical devices these days Just I don't know what to say about that now. I can't find myself on YouTube Is anybody on YouTube? Can you tell me in Periscope? Can you hear the sound? I have no idea what's going on Hey, I don't want uploads. I want live live streams. Here we go live now That's the one I want. Oops the volume off Why is the chat not showing up on here? Let's see maybe because he's not subscribed Crappola your volume is working on YouTube. Yay. Okay, so we're gonna switch back over to there Holy cow you guys What a disaster. I don't know why the chat's not working on this one It could because he's not logged in you can see and chat. Yay. Okay. I prefer YouTube When it's working I Had to log back out and go back in again. Holy cow when it's working. It works. Well, that's not what we wanted Hopefully that's me And I'm live. Yep. All right. Yay. Hey, we've got the bugs worked out on YouTube. Hello Wow technical difficulties, sorry about that guys So let's see if we can get Periscope loaded on this one and then we can get started Holy cow, we've wasted 15 minutes and While I'm doing that off to the side here Because I can't see your Periscope comments I can't stand on the stool and paint at the same time to see my phone So as I was saying now that we have the bugs worked out and you can hear me on YouTube yay We have this four-part painting inspired by the calendar page from my husband's friend Brent Frazier and I Did it in four parts Each section with a different brand of paint that we've already swatched in our review swatch product review swatch book and It was really interesting to try to continue sharing the same Sharing not sharing to continue painting the same painting Trying to get a similar color or effect with four completely different brands of paint even when you're using the same colors You would think that It wouldn't be that hard. It was a lot harder than you think and some of these brands were easier to achieve that with than others and One of the I love the mission gold they're very very vibrant I did tape it Um, I don't have my husband's password for the iPad. So that's not going to work But anyway, so I can't see the Periscope comments If there's something important over in Periscope if you could switch over here to YouTube, please for me That would be great I'm not going to fuss with the technical equipment anymore I'm going to continue broadcasting and I hope you love the broadcast But if you're asking me questions in Periscope, please either switch them over to YouTube chat in the live broadcast or Private message me or email me. Hey Teresa. All right. So I did this. I did tape it. So hey Cindy I did now that we have the technical difficulties worked out. Yay I am like I've said simulcast on Periscope If you're over there and you're trying to ask me a question or make a comment or anything then Please come over to YouTube and ask me there As long as I don't have too many technical difficulties, I will be trying to switch over to YouTube live It's a little easier barring technical difficulties and it's also better for my YouTube channel to be honest So anyway, I did tape this literally right. Hey Alaska. Hey, I am going there in May Cindy Lou. I can't wait It's our anniversary Um Anyway, I did tape this and I have it in my video new video camera So I will be editing it later today and getting it uploaded for you guys at some point But I wanted to have you see this first while we were working on our technical issues over here on YouTube And with my equipment because I have a equipment black thumb lately Yay, I'm glad Cheryl that you figured it out YouTube When it's working is easier, I think so I'm going to move this and we are going to work in our review book We are going on a cruise to Alaska and I'm not sure what all the stops are my husband booked it so I have no idea I Think it is. I'm not sure I'll have to let you know Okay, so we're going to start a new page here. We did this page and we filled it up So we're going to start a new one And I just realized I have to make my chart on here Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do Windsor Newton I will let you know we're gonna do Windsor Newton. I have a small Windsor Newton set pocket set I Think these are cotton and watercolors, which is their student grade. I have a few of the each each kind but This is my little set of ones I use when I'm doing the watercolor with mixed media and I don't care if you know I stick an acrylic paint brush in there or something like that and then I have this set Which are Van Gogh watercolors they did not come in this box You know, y'all know if you've been watching me for a while that I like the metal paint boxes and I Put them in here, and I had some cake and some tubes I Have kind of a lot of colors So first thing we need to do before we can do anything is I need to make my grid on here See I forgot to do it See I'm telling you I'm guy You know what I like watercolor Watercolor are fun Okay, so the easy way to do this. Let me move all these paints out of the way.  I Can do math I can do complicated math So this is what I do once I figure it out the first time I don't want to have to do it again So I'm gonna mark Keep it try to keep it lined up on The edges. This is one of those new pens that jet pens sent me This is the double-ended one and it's waterproof. I love it and it would be so great to have Like in a travel kit because it's double-ended you have a super fine point and a Boulder tip Hey Josie, how are you? Good morning everybody See if we can get all the people that over at Periscope switched over to YouTube, right?  I can't see the Periscope comments for those who view who are just now joining us my I I'm having device issues again because you know I have a device. I have an electronics black thumb So I'm so glad you're here Michelle So right now I'm just cheating and I'm copying my measurements and marks over from my other chart because I've got to make a new one and I forgot Because you know, that's what I do forget. All right. Let's see Thanks, Michelle. I appreciate that Okay, so then the trick is to Figure out Let's see, you know, it doesn't have to be like super neat, but You want to give yourself some kind of a grid it's a good idea with some of these to create like a template This doesn't like writing up against the ruler first thing I've Has first time I've had a problem with that. Let's use the scarlet line Which is more like a ballpoint It likes writing up against the ruler I'm in barring technical difficulties, which honestly Susan they might be my fault Because like I said, I have a I have an electronics black thumb it is usually easier on YouTube than it is anywhere else and The upload and replay is easier because it's almost instantaneous And for you guys from a customer service standpoint, it's that's a fabulous thing Thanks Cheryl and so I want I want from a customer service standpoint I want it to be easy for you guys I don't want it to have to take me 24 to 48 hours to get video Recordings up of broadcasts for you guys to replay So that's why I'm switching to YouTube plus I can see the chat The one thing that's never been a problem is the chat, but have a good day Susan Okay, so now we're gonna do a cross Figure out how many colors you want to do and you need to make that many columns and Then I try to do like four brands per page This is what I've been doing if your book is bigger you could do more and then because the first time I did it My math was off and I had this huge margin over here. I just thought okay This is a good space for notes if you want to make notes Because you know all right, so you have yellow orange red purple Okay, so you can do that it depending on your printer. It might not like printing over Watercolor paper this is hundred and forty pound watercolor paper and it does not always go through the printer well Missed a line Okay, so let's do the we have Windsor Newton in van Gogh So the first thing we need to do is get them wet. I'm gonna pull them down off the table I just heard yesterday from Royal who makes Royal makes paintbrushes, but they also make I think pelican and talons maybe Anyway, they're sending me paint. They say they're sending me paint We'll see what happens. I don't know Okay, so the first thing we're gonna do is write our color names up here and We've been If I look up here, so I'm gonna compare it I want to do similar colors each time no matter if I'm starting a new card. So let's do cadmium yellow And this is going to be the Windsor Newton I only have one sort of you can ask questions on my Facebook page The life of art one and you can also ask questions here Make sure you tag me if you put a question in the Facebook page so that I see it I'm gonna put cadmium red here, which is in this set is kind of an orangey color Hey, Lisa. We're gonna put a lizard and crimson You didn't miss much. We just had technical issues For the green I'm gonna use Viridian blue I'm gonna use ultramarine and this set does not have a purple So we can't do purple because this little 12 set doesn't have I'm way to hold on the phone. I might have purple I got a bag of Windsor Newton paints, that's not them Because you know my low-tech storage solution plastic bags They're there That's them. Yeah All right, I bet you there's a purple in here Yeah, I have purple lake. I don't have my glasses on Where are they? Okay, I Have evidently I like purple lake because I have that a couple of different times. Oh Here this is better dioxazine purple Okay So the last thing I'll do off-camera is swatch.  Oh that was for periscope followers. Okay Yeah, let them know over there any of you who maybe have both applications open let them know over there I am broadcasting, but I can't see any of the comments Okay, so let's get out a small brush and You know, I just I feel like I need to take a deep breath Okay, all right, let's get out a smaller brush and let's start swatching our colors again, this is the Windsor Newton Look how bright that and this is their cotton and these are their student grade And I like their student grade paints. Some of them are decently light fast Some of them are not just like with any other brand. They're pretty affordable. This is the cadmium red But see what I mean about how orange it is? And you can get their cotton and watercolors and also van Gogh, which we're also gonna do today They're both kind of a student grade, but they're both available at Hobby Lobby So if you have a limited budget and you want to start building up your collection of watercolor paints You can go in there and get literally one two bit of time with your 40% off coupon Until you have the colors that you want and if you're just doing our journal pages or greeting cards You know something like that and you're not doing like a big watercolor painting that you you know Want to last for a hundred years kind of a thing? There's then these are fine. I did show some pictures recently on my Facebook page of a pen and ink drawing that one of my aunts who was our college art student did for me as a gift when I was a kid and Some of the ink is fading She did a few of them for few of us nieces and nephews and mine is the only one that's still readable And because I sealed it between plexiglass But the reason that it's fading is because the ink wasn't light fast So it's a good example of why that you maybe if you're doing a special piece like a gift for somebody you want the Payton or ink to be light fast You can see it by going into my Facebook group Alright, so there's our colors beautiful colors in the Windsor Newton And don't forget, you know if you guys have any questions to let me know I can't wait to edit the video for you guys because of the four-part painting because that's going to be fun I can't get the cat back on that right now Hey Laurie Long time no talk Okay, so the next one with it will do is Van Gogh whoops and Evidently spelling is just not my thing today off Thank You Teresa she did and She was so excited when I restarted the Facebook group, which was her idea in the first place and She always encouraged me to not do what she did and let her art You know just fall by the wayside and not do what she left what I loved She'd be so happy with all of us that were that we're doing you know that we're we're following our dream Okay, so for this one We're gonna do permanent lemon yellow Yeah, she had cancer. She had breast cancer a few years back And it came back with a vengeance and metastasized into her brain, so She wasn't in a lot of pain at the end. Thank goodness Let's do Permanent red deep and we have Viridian on this palette, so let's do Viridian Ultramarine and Permanent blue violet so I want to encourage all of you to get together with your friends and do some of these like swatching parties and They have everybody like a pick a subject matter whether it's watercolor, maybe it's going to be Penn Michelle who is on here from Lady Blue Studios is doing one of these swatch books with pens and markers and Maybe you want to do it with that. Maybe you want to do it with other water-soluble material and if you're Love Naples yellow in any paint and if you're thinking about buying You know upgrading your supplies and one of your friends already has it you could add it to your swatch books Swatch book and try it and see if you think that you might want to you know invest in that See how you like it before you actually make the investment. Oh and pencils So this this kind of Experiment swatch book I think is a really great idea and it could be adapted to fit into any art supply So these are pretty equal these paints and of course you could do it with acrylic to paint. You might want to add some Retarder to the paint. I don't know on some of the blending things that might dry a little quickly I don't know you have to try it But I think it would I think it would adapt well and it would be fun to do one of these with acrylic paints and compare Like some of your cheaper like craft Acrylics to some of the artist ones and see what how pigmented what the difference is So, you know, those are pretty equal in my opinion, and they're both very affordable. They're both available a hobby lobby Okay, let's Drive and I think this is the first time you guys are seeing the upgraded book. Isn't it? I had to do a bigger book We quickly read ran out of this space in the old one or Sticks you could do watercolor sticks blocks. You could do yeah traditions Paint I love the traditions paint From Deco art. It's one of my favorites. So we're going to divide this into fourths You very much could on this. I've been asked a couple of times do a stamped image. You don't have to do a drawn image And you know, of course as soon as images are finalized I'm coming out with four new sets of rubber stamps. So you definitely could stamp them on here hint hint All right, but let's do a little house Just a simple little, you know box. I want to use the other end. Let's see. We're not looking for Picasso here We're just doing a little practice art piece Using the colors we just compared on the other page, you know, a simple little house that you probably learned how to draw You know in elementary school art class When you first learned about perspective Thank you for about the new book cover The first set Lisa the first set of watercolors That's a little Windsor-Newton Cotman pocket set. It's only got 12 colors the problem with that set If you're gonna watercolor with it in my opinion is it doesn't have a purple and it doesn't have a Payne's gray So I would switch out a couple of the pants. It does have white and like two browns I would take one of those the white out and one of the browns out and I'd switch and I'd put purple and Payne's gray in there And it has yellow ochre too. I would I would maybe think about taking You have three like brownish colors. Oh The stamps. Oh, thank you All right, so now we're going to Do our little paintings Yep, we need to mark them Whoops Ever one of those days where you just feel like you're off like I can't even spell this morning my spelling is never great But well the nice thing with watercolor about doing a swatch book whether you have one brand or a whole bunch of brands is the paints Especially with watercolor but also with acrylic look very different in the tube or in the pan Then they do on paper or canvas Yeah, the making the grid is the longest part. Okay, so let's Use our same colors. We already used and let's do the Windsor Newton first Try Dana try putting Mixing the paints with some gum Arabic they might need to You might need to add if they're old they might you might need to add a little bit more binder to them and That may fix the problem. I would add a little gum Arabic to it and see what happens Okay, so I'm going to When it start with our colors are warm colors the colors that remind us of sunlight and warmth When you look oh, what did I just do? Holy moly people did you get that? Let's lift that shall we holy cow and crappola I Told you I feel off today So you notice that the paint lit obviously here's a bi-accident test so the paint lifts pretty well look at that That should be Van Gogh. That's not Windsor Newton Holy cow told you I feel off. I maybe I just need more coffee. I don't know He brought I know right Michelle. You know me too. Well Deep breath. Holy cow, but yeah, I would add some add some get some gum Arabic and add a little bit to it and see if That helps it probably will So we're starting with our warm colors the colors that when you look at them remind you of a hot the hot summer sun sunlight and warmth Start with those put them in the spot, you know if the sun's coming this way or coming that way Put them, you know decide where your sun is coming from and then put all those warm colors in The appropriate place where the sun would be hitting your image All right, and then we're gonna slowly work our way to cooler So that was the orangey color out of this palette that we used now I'm going to the red which is going cooler to lizard crimson So live a lizard crimson for red is a cooler red This is I generally when I'm especially when I'm doing these experiments. I use inexpensive paper This is Strathmore 140 pound watercolor paper It's easy to get it's inexpensive and when you're practicing and learning it doesn't cost a lot my favorites Fabriano I I Like Fabriano paper a lot. I heard a watercolor artist recently and it might have been owning's art I don't remember and I think it actually it was and he had a good point if you're doing paintings that you're giving away or selling and you're thinking about You know stretching your watercolor paper and all that nonsense instead of Going to all that trouble of stretching and everything Just buy 300 pound paper Because you'll save yourself a lot of aggravation But 300 pound paper and they do make it it's like painting on a piece of chipboard, but it's really expensive You know, I never hide my mistakes from you guys, you know, I make plenty of them So it's part of the fun process. It's part of the learning process and you know, I don't see the point in hiding Any of that I don't always stretch my paper it depends on what I'm doing and if it's going to be for sale that kind of thing It really just depends I don't stretch it a lot I should say I do sometimes not a lot though So these are the little Windsor Newton paints and they they work really well I don't like stretching it onto a board and taping it down I have one of these and I can't think of the name of it right now, but I have this paper stretcher thing That's actually really nice. It's a wood. I Actually ordered it from the UK. I don't remember the name of it I've shown it in video before though, and you basically soak the paper and wet it and wrap it around this board and Then let it dry and it stretches around the board I Don't disagree with you Teresa. I frequently just open up the pad paper and start painting. I like watercolor blocks They're really easy to work with But you know one of the fun things about art and mixed media is that you know there are no hard and fast rules and You just need to figure out what works for you try some different things But like I said one of the nice things I like about maybe getting people to start doing swatching parties with their friends is Instead of doing what a lot of us did who now know better And when you start doing mixed media going out and buying a lot of art supplies because you think you have to have them And that only to find out that you'd rather not have spent the money on that If you have friends that have them Then you can try them first and you could try them in your swatch book and see if you're going to like it or not And you want to upgrade or you want to invest the money? Are you okay? There you go. Okay, so now we'll do the van go same thing Now some colors will lift When you make a mistake like I did and some colors will not they immediately stain the paper so along with Yeah, so and I'll talk about that more in a minute Cheryl along with Lightfast information a lot of times you're the chart from the manufacturer that has lightfast information is also going to have staining information And also some of the colors will be more opaque than others and that will be on there, too And some will be very translucent So yeah, you have to soak the paper first and I actually have an acrylic picture frame one of those ones with a deep lip It's actually kind of a big one. I think it's 16 by 20 and You soak the paper for about 15 minutes And then you can stretch it on to a board and tape it down or you can stretch it around this this blocking thing I have and put it down That's funny Lori, I like that Okay, so vermilion now we're going to go with the orange the most one of the most important things about doing this exercise is that Is the color blending? experiments which we're going to do next and Those are you know, it's important to practice blending colors. You aren't always going to have the color that you want on hand and It's important to know even if you do have lots of colors on hand What they're going to do if you mix them up together Something's dinging at me. It's one of my devices. I don't know Well, that's one of the reasons that we're doing this series Cheryl is so that you guys can at least watch me on a high-def camera Experiment with as many of these products as I can get a hold of so that you guys can make an educated Decision about what's going to work for your budgets And whether you want to even just even try it or not Let's go with the blue Just this one little dry You're welcome Plus, you know, it gives me an excuse to write all these paint companies and say hey, you know, do you think you guys couldn't help me out? I Don't mind doing that You don't have to sneak Teresa But I'm kind of far away from most of you I think I shouldn't say that because probably there's some of you there on the corner Michelle you're one of my best friends if you make it to California, you are more than welcome in the art room If I could fit a lot of them on my suitcase for you know our upcoming Trip I would but I don't think I I don't think I'm gonna make it through security and I'm not checking them So we're gonna work our way through to the darker colors. Let's see now, you know, I'm working literally I'm not waiting for anything to dry and The colors are mixing together and what we what you start to get like right here Is you start to get them to mix together and they're turning gray because all your colors that's what happens when you mix all your colors together you get a neutral and Sometimes that's what you want and you're okay with that We'll have to kick the daughter out so there's room for Michelle Yeah, where are you Lisa you I know we're in California You and Anne Williamson and is only like an hour away So there's our two little houses and I like them both Well, I do need to move out of San Jose, it's like the most expensive place in the entire nation live I won't even tell you Hey, yeah, yeah, how much that like fixer-uppers cost around here and of course Shannon wants me to move to Texas. Oh Santa Rosa. Yeah, my mother and dad used to live in Ucaia. We drove through Santa Rosa a lot So now we're gonna start on our color blending experiments and I'm gonna flip to and I'm gonna get out my two templates and We're gonna go to a clean page We need pencil So we've got our circle template. We're gonna do two of those You could do this in pen, but you don't need to I would just do it in pencil After you make yourself a template make yourself a template out of something Yeah, and got it I have just a little ordinary plain Tract house and has a beautiful two-story home, but That being said, I'm glad I don't have a two-story house. I'm not getting any younger I think it would be hard for me get up and down the stairs.   I figured I was out chatting with them I don't multitask well anymore Now that I'm over 50 and been through menopause.  I don't know that that's too far relatively speaking from Ukraine Oh, that's Beth with the art barn. Yeah, we could meet at the art barn. Yeah, somebody has to tell Beth She needs a retreat at the art barn. I Think that's in Canada, but that's you know, I've always wanted to go to Canada. So I'm okay with that All right, so I'm Windsor Newton my daughter works For a travel agency so and then van go Now when you do these color blending exercises, of course, you can Do with a ton of colors or you can limit your colors. We're gonna limit our colors. So I'm gonna do Cadmium yellow We're gonna just do primaries like we did before then skip one two three and then we're gonna do a red So we're gonna do a lizard crimson and then one two three and then the blue ultramarine. Oh, cool I would love to see that Yeah, I go to visit my daughter's boyfriend's parents and it's so cute dad has a really cute accent But I don't know what they are saying when they start, you know, I have trouble with English So some of the best vodka though. I gotta say one two three. So here and we'll do Permanent red One two three. So then ultramarine Well, you know, I didn't I never did vodka shots before I met Polly as soon as parents Record to me. Holy cow They go down a little too easy if you know what I mean All right, so now first thing that we're gonna do Yeah, yeah, I'd like to see me paint after a few drinks that might be interesting So the first thing we'll do is we're gonna try with the cad We're gonna do the Windsor Newton and we're gonna put our pure swatches of our color Into the space good can go well welcome So the empty brand. Hey, Brandy. So empty half pants. I Order normally from cheap Joe's because they're very inexpensive over there or Jackson's in the UK, which surprisingly enough more often than not it's cheaper even with shipping Always I always use basic But you can use any colors and we can discuss that as I'm painting I should be painting while I'm talking about that So we're gonna do the Alizarin Crimson next So The best way to do your could this color wheel blending exercise is use a red a yellow and a blue Now you can use any red yellow or blue And Which ones you use are gonna give you different results So, you know, maybe do it once with you know Closest that you have to your primaries But then the next time that you do it switch it up and use a different yellow and a different red and a different blue I saw somebody and I again, I don't remember who it might have been Owning's art. I Don't remember and he did it with His yellow was like yellow ochre and the red was It might have been a lizard crimson and then the blue was like Prussian blue or something It's cheap Joe's in the UK. I mean cheap Joe's in the US and Jackson's art in the UK Go directly to the website don't go through Amazon Do yourself a favor. I like Amazon. Don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan. I placed in order last night Um But go directly to the website. Okay, so now we're gonna do the ultramarine Now I'm going to mix half and half my yellow and red Approximately, you know, there's no hard and faster rule to this and then I'm gonna put that in this blank space in the middle I could make that a little darker by doing a little more paint a little less water But the illiterate crimson is a blue red and then adding yellow to it You get almost this nice kind of darkish flesh tone color out of that. You see that That's one of the reasons why it's one of my favorite colors So now I'm gonna take part of this and I'm gonna add the rest of the yellow to it And then I'm gonna put that here next closer to the yellow swatch And then I'm gonna take the other part. I'm gonna add the rest of the red to it You're welcome, and I'm gonna put it over here and look at those three different colors you got Out of just those two tubes of paint right So now I'm gonna wipe this off my plate and We're gonna grab some more of the illiterate crimson And we're gonna take our plate here, and we're gonna mix it half and half with the blue That's a pretty color Then we're gonna take and we're gonna add more blue to some of it You should get a really dark violet color and then take the other part and add the red to it Look at that Isn't that pretty right the plate off again? You guys are welcome. I love doing this All right, so whoops, that was the wrong blue So those are my two favorite websites to get stuff from Jackson's art in the UK and Cheap Joe's Yes, so I would I that's how I do my down Daniel Smith doesn't sell Their paints in a cake. I think they used to But they don't everything's in a tube. Lots of them are from natural minerals, so they're not Pigmented the same as other kinds of paint and you need to have a palette and then empty pans So and the size of the pan is just gonna depend on you and what you like. This is a half pan These bigger ones in this Van Gogh palette are the full pan If you get the full pans, you can fit less in the in the if you use the metal palette You can you're gonna get less in there So if you want to do the full pans get the big 48 pan palette because you can get 24 full pans or 48 half pans or like this one's a combination of so I put the colors I don't use as much in the in the small pans Yeah, they do fit in there. They fit. Yeah, use an Altoid container. If you've got it use it They fit in there nicely And you don't need lots of colors as we're showing here you can get look at all these different colors We got we're only using three tubes of paint So here I'm gonna do half and half Although you all know one of my favorite colors is moon glow and that's not gonna be in your basic three-tube of paint Get some moon glow. That's a good color Okay, so now I'm gonna take and I'm gonna add some more yellow to that They do make a watercolor stick. I haven't tried them yet But when we go to Alaska, we're Going on via ship out of Seattle So I'm trying to talk my husband into letting me either when we cut go or when we come back To do a side trip to the Daniel Smith store I'm working on him So now I'm gonna add some more blue There's a really nice Kind of a Prussian turquoisey blue color that would be great for water And look at those look at all of those colors from three tubes paint Now like I said, which primary colors, you know, which shade of red yellow or blue that you use is gonna give you a completely different color wheel But I do know Daniel Smith sells some of their tubes in small sets. I think there are five mil tube instead of 15 and Get one of those and just practice and do some of these color wheel experiments and see how many different colors you can get Okay, so now we will do the van Gogh set and Opera pink is fabulous and also they have a cobalt Is it cobalt teal? Alright, so now we're gonna do The van Gogh set it's a little dry. Let's spray some of these Mission gold is, you know, they're very pigmented I liked working with them this morning. You'll see on the video. I did a lot of blotting though Or we're not wait. We're not supposed to call it blotting lifting They're very pigmented like the orange is really shockingly bright So I would think that with the mission gold. There's a little bit of a learning curve And there's no reason why you have to stick with one brand, you know Maybe you like Moonglow and Daniel Smith, but you like the red from Schminke and you like the Prussian blue from Windsor Newton make a custom palette. There's nothing wrong with that. Oh I'm so glad well, and I'm gonna keep repeating these exercise until y'all start getting the clue We're gonna and or tell our book is filled up But it's something that you should not just do once and then forget about you should keep doing it Those of you who are on periscope and are watching I don't I'm not seeing the comments and I keep forgetting about you guys So you have to come over to YouTube Otherwise, I'm not seeing the comments. So now I'm gonna mix half and half The nice thing about not seeing the comments over on periscope is if there's trolls over there. I've no idea I Guess that's a good thing So I'm gonna do half and half If you're just making cards and tags and doing mixed media Then maybe you don't want to invest a lot of money in watercolors, but if you're gonna start doing watercolor painting then Then you probably want to upgrade just a little bit. So this permanent red is a really strong See that's that's it. I don't care if there's just one of you or if there's 25 of you I will I will be here regardless because you know, I love you guys So I added some more yellow to that The red on this is really strongly pigmented. Yeah, no, please Teresa. No, no, no, I don't miss the trolls The trolls and that I Don't know sex workers or whoever they were that was just craziness Okay, so there's some my rag is getting it Nikki, all right. Now, let's do red and blue one of my favorite colors in the van go is a Color called purple lake and actually I don't see it on here. Oh No, that's not van go. That's Windsor Newton. I'm sorry is permanent blue violet.  Nobody's given a thumbs up yet.  Could I put other mediums in here? Well, sure. You could do one for Water-soluble mediums and one for non-water soluble mediums.  Oh, thanks Cheryl. All right, so now Let's do blue and Yellow oh See you guys gave figured out how to give me hearts. Look at that. Okay, so we'll do half and half Then we'll add more blue to some of it more yellow to some of it And maybe you just have a few inks or something like that You should Do it with what you have All right, I think why for you guys as much as I can especially on YouTube I'm gonna do it once a week if I can do it more some weeks I'll be able to do twice a week. It'll just depend on my schedule and if people are home I Like it because I can you guys can ask me questions. So this is just another color blending exercise and Yeah, this will be up on YouTube so let's do this is just another color blending exercise Different different way of doing it and you can find more colors again. I made myself a template because you know Math and me. Yeah, we're not friends. I'm not going to be able to do any hashtag events or Periscope hops for a while There's too much going on So some of you have seen me do this particular blending exercise before it has the same kind of idea That the other one does but you this is a way to get even more colors I know right Michelle. You just realized that All right, so I Encourage you to do at least one of these in your product review book. You don't have to do both of them and Honestly of the two the color wheel is easier So I want but I want you to do one of them I'm gonna show you how to do this again. I've shown it before with the other brand paint brands and Again, you can totally do this with acrylic paint. This is not just a watercolor thing Yeah, Michelle. Have I mentioned to you or Cindy that I don't fly well alone? That's why I so I must love you guys to be doing this I'm gonna be dropping periscope at some point. I will I shouldn't say that I will be on periscope when I'm doing say a periscope hop with Susan Hiles and I may occasionally simulcast with periscope. I won't be watching the comments at all I can't see him right now. My phone's up there But I like I like YouTube better. I like the recording has a full screen. It's not a little tiny screen I don't have to optimize it. It doesn't take five million years in a day To get it loaded Yeah, well remember Michelle. I have anxiety disorder. Let's I can say about that. It's not good. Okay, so now I'm gonna write the colors that I'm using and so here and here is gonna be the yellow and then Here and here will be the red And then here and here will be the blue Okay, and this is the winter new So this is how you do this one and I want you to pick one of these that appeals to you better um You may prefer like I said to do the round one and that's fine Are you Cindy Lou? Are you in Las Vegas? Where are these two columns meet right here will be the pure pigment So we're going to put this yellow here Okay Now we'll do the red The alizarin crimson Where they meet which is here. It's going to be red It's a little dry There we go Need my plate back again here We're going to do a mixture of red and yellow We're going to have this one be more on the red side So we're going to grab some of the red Mostly red And a little bit of yellow That was a lot of yellow was too much yellow. Let's put some more red in there. Shall we there we go And this this mixture that's more on the red side will go here Okay, then we're going to add more yellow to it and make it more on the yellow side And that goes here Look at those different colors we got You killed Chad again. See Teresa. What did you do? Holy cow? It's all your fault All right, so now we'll do blue Where they meet is going to be the pure color. So we're going to just put the blue there now This one's a little different so Here we've got the blue meeting the the yellow And then we're going to put a little bit of yellow in it and put that here And I'm just doing all my mixing on a white dollar store plate dessert plate And then I'm going to add a little more yellow and I'm going to put that color here And there's no formula to this you just put a dab of this and a dab of that. It's kind of like cooking All right, so then we need more blue So let's get another blue pile over here And let's grab some red And we will put some red in there A little bit of red. We want this one to be more on the blue side And we're going to put that here towards the blue end of our color chart Then we're going to grab rinse our brush off and grab some more red and put that here And look at all those colors again that you got out of only three tubes of paint Yeah, that works. I like the this plate because I mostly only use it for watercolor And it has a little bit of a lip on it and I tend to be a sloppy painter. So But whatever's cheap Rag is very dirty Baby wipe time There we go That's better. So let's put this one aside And then let's do the van go And we will do permanent lemon yellow and if you're Trying to decide between a couple of different brands of paint I obviously cannot write and talk at the same time. Um Then it's good to do these side by side and you can test and see which one for you That you that you like working with better that blends better that you think goes on the paper better for you Maybe you don't want to paint that strongly pigmented like the mission gold Maybe maybe you prefer something that's not that strong. That's always a possibility I have not had that's a good question. I haven't had any problems with molding Um, but these palettes today and right after after this taping Um, I will have five of them out and open and I will leave them out for two days Um and let them really dry out. I don't close them back up until they're not juicy anymore. They have to be bone dry If you do that you shouldn't have any problem with them getting moldy Um, if you live in a humid area Um, that how long you have to do it might be different. I'm in california Teresa's hilarious. All right, so now we're going to do the same exercise, but we're going to do it with the van go But yeah, I leave them open for at least a day. It depends on how wet I've gotten it and how, um How long it's going to take to dry depends on how wet I've gotten it So there are a couple of brands that stay sticky and I don't like that Um, senelier is one of them They're made with the binder is usually honey And I am not a big fan of one that stays wet Because of the way I store my paints. I like them to be um to dry out Well, we have a mixed crowd so while I don't mind a good dirty joke now and then I try to not have that on youtube because sometimes there's kids watching If not the live broadcast and the taping I'm in san jose california All right, so that's our yellow and where it meant we put yellow. So now let's do our red And look at this is the red. I said it was really pigmented That's after I've put a lot of water in it. So it's a pretty good red I like the van go paints. They're fun to play with They're good quality student paint and they're affordable um, okay, so where they meet Is red no keep them open So when you've been painting like we are right now and you've gotten your paints all wet Don't close it right away. Leave it open at least overnight and let it dry out before you close it Otherwise, you're going to have problems with it molding. Um, okay I'm not super great with puzzles, but go for it victor I shouldn't say that it just depends on if my brain is like turned on and engaged or not Oh ventura county. That's in southern california. My brother lives in uh redlands Okay, so here we're gonna put the blue Okay, so here we're gonna we have our red meets yellow Oh, he did a video. Oh cool I love gifts from victor. I owe a lot of people happy mail and i'm gonna be working on that I have to pay for this. I have there's a funding issue We're gonna yeah, it probably won't happen until april, but it i'm working on it Okay, so here we're gonna mix red and yellow because it's closer kind of to the red side We're going to make it more red So we're going to mix our colors You know about 50 50 More red than yellow though All right, and we'll put that here And then i'm going to add more yellow to it No, I haven't seen it. I don't I haven't had time if you've had it on youtube I haven't had time to watch videos victor So that one's more yellow. There we go And look at the difference between You know some of that's because I maybe have more water in here, but not all of it All right, so now we're going to do the blue. We need more yellow Some of it's because of my yellow this yellow is It's I don't have cadmium yellow in the van go and the cadmium yellow I prefer it's More translucent It is less chalky the permanent yellow lemon yellow is a little chalky Okay, so now we're going to mix our blue and um yellow with a little bit of yellow And we will put that here I need some more blue There we go That's better So the more water you put in your paint the lighter the color will be the lighter of value The color will be oh good. I like surprises sometimes My husband would be laughing hysterically at that. Do you guys just say, you know He's known me a long time. I don't always handle surprises. Well happy male surprises. I like them Okay, and then here we'll grab some of this red this crazy red That's a really bright and very well pigmented and we'll add a little blue to it And we'll put it here Was that in the right place? Yeah, that was the right place Let's try it. What am I doing? Totally you can do this with acrylics And then I'm going to add more blue to it I encourage you to take out whatever paints that you have They may be watercolor. They may be acrylic. Maybe you just have inks And you should really learn the best way to learn your materials and what that you can and can't do with them Is do some color charts and some color blending. Um, this is 140 pound strathmore watercolor paper Um, I don't know what the gsm is. Let's see 300 gsm So it's not super thick paper, but it's good enough for this exercise And whatever maybe you just have inks. Maybe you have acrylic paints I encourage you to get One of these books together and do it with whatever and do these color blending Exercises if you have like-minded artistic friends and maybe one of them has watercolor one of them has acrylic paint You know, one of you has water-soluble pencils make a product review swatch book and all of you get together bring what you have And do these experiments with what you have I would if you're going to do a bunch of different mediums in the same book I would separate them out into sections One for acrylic paint one for watercolor paint that sort of thing. Um It's not really an inventory book This is just an experiment and swatch book and it compared I started doing this as comparison for you guys um A lot of you asked me about what kind of paint you you should buy um And so this was a way for you to see on camera what they all look like now This is a schminke and daniel smith two of the best Um, or at least most highly regarded a watercolor professional watercolor paint brands around um, and um they're Well pigmented This is mission gold and may mary blue And these are dry they look different dry than they do wet Oh grease. Oh cool. That's on my bucket list. I'm going to visit grease someday Um, and then this is windsor newton in van go and we're going to go down the list Of all the paint brands I either have or can get my hands on And if you have no art friends near you, that's okay I have been making high res color scans of these pages And they are on my watercolor wednesday page on my website. You can actually download these and um Compare them yourself and decide for you You know and what your budget is what you can afford and what you want to invest in think about what you want to do if you're going to We're going to just talk about watercolors here for a minute if you're going to Get into watercolor and you're thinking about buying them first think about at least for right now What do you want to do with them? If you just want to do some mixed media work Maybe paint a few cards that kind of thing that you probably don't need schminke or daniel smith I love daniel smith. It's my favorite. I love that their colors are made in the usa I love that they're made out of natural minerals a lot of them I love the way they granulate. I there's nothing about them really that I don't like But that being said if you're just going to do a few cards and that sort of thing Maybe you want to get a koi set or a windsor newton student, you know pocket set like this one You can get a lot of these a hobby lobby. Maybe you want to just get a few van go tubes So think about what you want to do with the paint and what your budget is and then decide I built up my collection by buying them one two bit at a time for the most part And you all have virtual friends. So that would be why You know, I have scan these and you guys can download them and put them in your book And likewise if you guys have materials that you have that I don't have That you've done these tests with scan them And I will print them and put them in my book somebody did some inks recently and this and they tagged me and sent me the image And I haven't printed it out yet The watercolor not inks. I'm sorry the liquid watercolor hydrous watercolors You can do virtual exactly you can do virtual parties now Hey, Puerto Rico. Yay Exactly and now I've already updated the watercolor Wednesday page here at my website and I have added links for Windsor Newton and Um Van go already and I updated a few other links added some things I I had I found and I Will add these scans later today like right after we are done here. I'll scan them The other thing that I did is I I will be doing color charts for the paints of these brands that I have That we just worked with Um, and the other thing that I did here is I added pockets when I made this book And in this back pocket, I have printouts or pamphlets from the different companies And each one of these has in it The color like this is the emission gold one. Look at all these colors. They have and on here they have um How light fast it is whether it's translucent or not how how If it's non staining or staining um And there's some pigment information on here too that I don't understand Um, but I printed one of these out for each one of the companies or in the case of emission gold they sent me this so If I found a Printable I tried to remember to link it on the watercolor Wednesday page A bunch of pamphlets. Yeah, see um You can request some of these pamphlets from the companies and they'll send you information if you go to their websites like you go to Um golden and they'll send it to you Uh, I love you guys too Um, we have been working in uh lead brun. We've been looking in our working in our product review swatch book for watercolor paints and Today we added this is the book And today we added, um Well, I'm still chatting. So, you know me. I'm a talkaholic. So, you know, it's already 11 30, but we're still here So today we added um windsor newton And van go here. I'll turn this this way Um, and we did first we did our comparison swatches and that we could compare to our other brands and um They compare really well the per I don't have cadmium yellow and van go Um, and the I have permanent lemon yellow, which is the color I like, but it's a little opaque and a little chalky So it wasn't quite the same Oh, so have a nice dinner. I'll see you later Then we did two more little house paintings comparing The two colors Then we did some more color wheel color blending exercises. These are the four that we already had in here These are the two that we did today Then we did these kind of square chart color blending exercise Oh, see that was wet. I closed the book and I didn't dry it first Oops Let's get that dry. She'll put some more paint on there Had a wet spot. Oh, you're welcome. And then off camera. I will add um and Color swatch page that has the complete Um, you know list of colors I have for these two new brands in my inventory to the to the back of my book um I've already added the printouts from the companies for light fastness and that to the book Um, and every week we're going to do two new brands until we get Um through most of what I have and or I've been sent I just found out from royal that they're sending me some stuff and some brushes I don't know exactly what they're sending but Um, they're sending something Um, and a few companies have said they're sending things. So as they come in, I'll let you know I did just get this pen from jet pens. It is definitely waterproof. I love it um It says zebra A lot of japanese stuff I'll have to see if I can find out from you guys what it is for you guys It has a super fine tip on one end And it's got a bolder tip on the other end. I love it. Oh, I love trader joes.  What are we going to eat? I don't know All right, that's it for today Don't forget. We have the four part painting when we have four more paint brands in the book. We'll do another four part painting Um, yeah, exactly. Laurie. I'm right there with you. I'm trying so hard to eat better and then valentine's day came, right? Holy moly As soon as we have four more paint brands in our book, I'll do another four part painting I did tape the one that I did this morning. So I will get that video up as soon as I can And I think that's it for today Yes, there is a video. It's already up on my channel about how I did this. Um, there also is, um All of the recordings for Doing these swatches and everything are all up on my channel. Look under watercolor Wednesday Yeah, thankfully gluten's not a problem for me But you know, I just eat too much other stuff and don't walk enough I'm trying to fix that but I was walking so much. I pulled a muscle in my upper leg So I had to take a couple of days off. That wasn't fun. You're welcome. Laurie. It's so great to see you here And I'm glad you all caught me all I will be back for sure next wednesday at 10 a.m Maybe also on monday if you're not in my email newsletter yet Um, they find out first before anybody else what my live schedule is going to be on sundays So you can go to my website and sign up for the the link for how to sign up for the newsletter list is in there Yeah, exactly. Uh, I like that idea victor. Um If you're in my facebook group, um, they find out usually on monday Um, how uh when i'm going to be live I do put it out on social media the morning of also So there's lots of ways to catch me You guys have a great day too Yeah, we're artists. We sit on our butt a lot and don't get enough walking in That's hence this is why i'm trying to go to the gym Oh good Now also the email list people are going to be the first ones to know They're the first ones to know about their live schedule. They'll be the first ones to know when the, um Preorders are ready for the new stamp sets. They'll be the first ones to know when the designs are finalized um They are the first ones to know about coupon codes So if you want to be in on any of that you have to sign up for the email list if you want to know before anybody else I also do share things with the facebook group But they're usually a day later than everybody else than the than the email list. So just fyi If you want to know any of that you should be in one of those two things All right, and that's it for today. I will see you all later michelle. I can't wait for las vegas It's gonna be a lot of fun Well, you know, I do have to keep funding these broadcasts and my youtube channel my art supply habit Um, my husband's threatening to make a poor me public service announcement. You need to support Um, my channel. So he doesn't have to be in the poor house because of my art supplies. He's he's threatening So, you know, I don't know You can shop in my etsy shop. You can um Hit the support button here on youtube my channel here on youtube has a support button So you can always click on that if you don't want to buy anything, but you'd like to support my live broadcasts and all of that um One of those two would be great I yeah, we have to discuss that michelle because I don't either I want to like bring my whole art room with me and I can't do that All right, I will talk to you guys later. I'm going to go try to grab some lunch I have a friend coming over in a little bit to um to um Art with me Ah bribery, Teresa. I see that All right, I will talk to you guys later Bye