the Madonna and the Reverend Dr. William J. Eisenman. Okay, here we go. Welcome to progressive discussions. You already know who we are because of the intro, so don't ask me. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Well, you don't know what I mean. Jelly Bean. Everything we discuss and show politically, which is 99.9999% of the time, never good news, is part of our series, Capitalism in a Conk Show. There's the conk. Soaking that conk energy from the briny deep. From Poseidon, King Neptune, whatever you want to call it. Anyway. You know, I just want to start off. I mean... Are you going to pay me? Yeah. This past two weeks, every time I had a call on office from a different source, I encountered nothing but incompetence, no matter who I spoke to. I felt like I was in Bizarro World. Really. It was like... And I'm very... You know, when I talk to people on the phone from a corporate office, I speak slowly and loudly and clearly. I give the account number slowly and clearly. I ask them if the right account appears up on a computer monitor. And they say, usually they say yes. But then the women in the office start asking me stupid questions and ask me to repeat what I just told them. I say, how many times? How many times? And this is my mother's insurance company named Wellcare. How many times do I need to slowly spell my name and my mother's name? Do you have my mother's information on the screen or do you not? Did I give you the correct account number or did I not? Why are you being this? One thing I can't stand is having to be redundant.  She asked me to put my mother on the phone. My mother said, of course I give my son James P. Madonna authorization to speak on my behalf. I took the phone, did you hear that? Is that okay? The girl says yes.  She was a fast talker like she was really hyped up on caffeine. She talked really fast. It's not easy to understand these young chicks in the office. Sometimes you have to ask them to slow down. But I don't talk fast. I make sure they get all the information. They didn't do any good. She started to get my mother's heart of hearing. The girl started to get nasty with me. Ended up in a fight. I reported her. My sister called. My sister got the run around to. This had to do with getting approval to have a caregiver come over a couple of times a week for several hours. Keep an eye on my mother while I get things done. She's in her 80s. They were given my sister to run around. My sister finally had to get the head supervisor and report the whole rude incident. They apologized profusely. They straightened everything out. The whole idea was that my mother's primary care physician had to fax the OK for her to have a caregiver and have the insurance pay for it. But when I tried to finalize this whole thing, they kept on giving me to run around and they started giving my sister to run around. Now you see where I'm going with this. This is all connected to the American capitalist health care system that the establishment politicians want us to stay with. The privatized health care system which fucks with you. I got the feeling they really did not feel like paying for my mother's care. Why? Because my mother wasn't on the upper echelon health insurance plan because she was a Medicare slash Obamacare slash Medicaid patient. So they were being rude. Even that guy that had the problem with social security disability, he called me and said he went to the two social security doctors and they were both very rude and very nasty in argument of it. It's like, hey man, if the government doesn't pay you the full amount, doctor, you don't have to accept it. Don't take out your frustrations out on the patients. They're at the bottom of the barrel like they're scum. You know what I mean? See, this is all part. This is all part. Moucher.  Unless you have a silver spoon in your mouth. See what the problem is with a pay out of pocket capitalist system where you have to pay out of pocket for everything, education, healthcare, you know, what Hillary Clinton wants. All establishment politicians want that. You see what it is?  If you have the Caddo Cadillac insurance and you're part of the top 20% in America. You're treated pretty well. Other than that, they treat you like you're subhuman. You know, but this whole pay out of pocket capitalism, free market capitalism, just like privatization historically, statistically doesn't really work. Has not worked. Unless you're rich. But that's why it's supposed to work. You mean if you're rich? My article, which I just finished last night, is all about capitalism and its flaws and its problems and etc. And we love it. We love it. It's like religion to us, etc. Well, maybe to a tea bagger. But capitalism, you know, it's got to be, not a tea bagger. Tea baggers, you've got to understand, are almost populist. Well, they're flat. Yeah, but they're flat. They are almost with Bernie. How could they be? They're flag waivers. They're always America number one, America number one. But not their party. You see, they have a problem with their party. With the establishment, just like Bernie's people do. Well, Paul Ryan wants to exclude people with pre-existing illnesses from Obamacare. Right. Nice guy. I heard, I read, that the Republican replacement for Obamacare is horrible. I already knew that. Where is it? There is no replacement. The replacement is, it's called the drop-dead plan. There you go. You don't have the money to get decent healthcare, you're drop-dead. But guess what? They haven't put that on paper. No. But that's what it is. It's a drop-dead plan. That's their plan. All of them. All of these establishments.  Die on the sidewalk. Hey, even today's Democrats. Obama, hey, the Obama administration with Loretta Lynch, which I have a feeling Obama kind of knew from, I think she might be from Chicago, Illinois. Yeah. I think he knew her way back when. Anyway, the whole entire Obama administration has been, and still is, protecting the DNC and Hillary Clinton from indictment. They are, and it sounds like, I don't know if these articles are lies or propaganda, but it sounds like Bernie Sanders is starting to whoosh out. He's starting to soften up to the establishment. I don't know how true it is that Bernie Sanders made an error and said he will vote for Hillary Clinton and then took it back. I have no idea. No, no, he said that. He said he will. But he's still going for the convention. But he said he might endorse Hillary? Yes, at the end, when they all vote for her. What about, when they all vote for her? What about Jill Stein in the Green Party? Jill Stein doesn't have the numbers. Why isn't, why is Bernie Sanders actually taking a good, hard look at a corporatist like Hillary Clinton, a corrupt corporatist, and not continuing the grassroots revolution and going with Jill Stein? He's a traitor to the people.   It's the only way to prevent Trump.  I'm voting for Jill Stein then. You can vote for her, but that the point is she doesn't have the numbers. I am not voting for a crook. Plain and simple. I am not voting for the establishment. But that's only me. If you want to go with the establishment, go with the establishment. I don't care. You know what? Americans still are not ready for true change. Of course not. They have a psychological, they have a deep warped psychological problem with common sense. It's really common sense that you need to decide on who you're going to vote for in an election. It doesn't take a high IQ or brilliance. It's like, what does the candidate bring to the table for you? Forget about corporations and big business, because that's a bunch of who. They didn't do that though, did they? For you. Your loyalty should be to your wallet, my friends. What does Hillary Clinton bring to the table for people of color, minorities, women, young people, disabled, forgotten, neglected veterans, so on and so forth. The little guy, the poor. What does she bring to the table? I don't see anything. She doesn't bring anything to the table. Nothing, but she's got the dialogue aids. Because she cheated. So if you want to look, if you want to stay, yeah, and millions are supposed to... We'll see what happens. The millions are supposed to march on the DNC in Washington. Let's see if the mainstream media televises that. Probably not. Anyway, so the chisel is all a shame, goes to the Obama administration, to Bernie Sanders and his campaign manager, which are the pussies which have no coulions. You see the, they're not real balls.  They got no coulions. The pigeon-libered ultra-liberal pacifist that could not go be honest and go head on to debate Hillary Clinton into debates. Oh, no. He couldn't do to Hillary what he did to Alan Greenspan. Oh, no. He had to be gentle and hold back with Madam Secretary. Oh, he's such a, so afraid, the ultra-liberal. He's so afraid of being called a misogynist. So he had to go easy on Madam Secretary. No coulions. You see, that's what the ultra-liberal pacifist in the Progressive Movement have. No coulions. Okay. And they're not, they, the American does not, does not deserve somebody who's sincere about a grassroots revolution like Jill Stein. No, they don't. Because they want to elect them. Because the people are not ready for change. The problem with Bernie is he doesn't have the delegates. Simple. But they, but why didn't they bring this to legal action a long time ago? About the cheating, about election fraud and the cheating. Didn't expect it, I guess. Bernie Sanders, 30-year veteran senator in Washington, did not expect the establishment, a Democratic Party in Hillary Clinton to cheat. I don't think so. And I took a good look at the kisser on his campaign manager. And he looks like an ultra-liberal pacifist hippie.  He was like Wally Cox. He could have brought this to the highest courts of the land. He could have brought this. He could have made a big stink about all this election fraud. But he didn't do it.  You're disgraceful, all of you. No coolie-ooms. No coolie-ooms. First of all... No coolie-ooms. First of all, Bernie would have to find out about these things. Find out about it? Yeah. Were we all found out about it? Exactly. After Iowa. After Iowa we found out about it. So now who's going to sue? Why bother to have all these rallies nationwide? Why bother to spend money on playing fair and have all these rallies?  And the young Turks and MSNBC. Why bother if you know that the election is rigged? He didn't. He didn't know. That's the problem. But we knew. No, you knew after the fact. Yes. No, after Iowa they're doing articles galore all over the internet. After the fact. It had to occur first. It was plenty of time for them to do something about it. Well, it probably he doesn't have standing to do something about it. He don't have stamina. He's too old. The people of Iowa have the standing to support. Arizona. Nobody invested. Arizona. The people of Arizona. California. He's still burning. He's still flipping counties. It's like, you know, and of course the media, the projected winner for everything. Yeah. According to them is Hillary Clinton because they don't want the socialists in the White House.  They don't want, you know what, Hillary? Yes. The United States is not Sweden. Sweden actually cares for its people. Right. And so does Norway and so does Denmark and settles Finland. Correct. And Deutschland. So if you want to know more about this particular subject, get the newsletter. It's coming out. A new. Please. No change. Issue. Newsletter censored. Please. Please. No change. Please. Mama. No change. What happened back in November of 2014, America proved then that they're not ready for real change because they reelected all the Republican governors and all the Republican congressmen and all the Republican senators. And then they reelected McConnell and reelected Rand Paul. And Paul Ryan. And reelected Paul Ryan. Come up and face himself.     But he got reelected. But he got reelected. He got reelected.  They got reelected. We got to understand something. Even our American Revolution, only one third of the Americans were for it and fought it and et cetera. That one third was the royalists. They went with King Georgie.  So you had, you had asked. You had one third.  Absolutely. The sycophant.  They want something in return.  Maybe they feel sorry for you. Maybe they feel guilty. You know, like giving special treatment to lobbying to a certain race, lesbians or gays or people of color or whatever. Giving special treatment to these people because they feel guilty or bad. Like they don't deserve anything. It's different. A sycophant usually wants something. For instance, if you're a regular Joe Sixpack and a hot looking chick walks up to you with a big smile, she most likely is trying to sell you something.  Like in other words, if it's too good to be true, they want something. You know, it is, it's too good to be true. So, I mean, this is it. I don't have to, I don't have to give you any detail about who the inductees of this week's Chisler's Hall of Shame is because it's self-explanatory.  It really is. Anyway, your take on it and if not, let us sink our teeth into these readings. Bugaboo. Take on what? I don't know. Take on the cake? You take the cake? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what else to say. It's like, it's, it's real. Hey, I will say something. The end time countdown. Woo. Speaking. Hey, whoa, whoa. Now I got, now I got to take. Because people have no coulions. Now I got to take. That's the, that's the magic word for this week's show. Coulions. Coulions. The lack of coulions. Now I got to take. Now you got to take. Take a piss. I voted to leave the EU. I heard a lot of experts in Europe say that the European Union is corrupted. Well, it's going to be more corrupt. I didn't know it was corrupt. There are 17 more people. I thought. Nations in the EU which have to leave. I thought. For the beast to rise. But I thought that the European Union was the perfect model to set to the world. It's for the world. It's for the world. It will be for something like three and a half or four years. Okay. You know with the Euro, the strong currency, the Euro. And what about the. Ten nations will be left and the beast shall rise. The seventh rising of the Holy Roman Empire. But things are working so well in northern Europe economically. And I don't understand why they're having issues. What is the problem with the European Union?  I know you like Israel like the American. I do not like anybody in politics. They are pathological. All of them. Including Netanyahu. Everyone. By the way, who is getting a ton more money for military aid. Yeah. From the United States taxpayer. Uh huh. Why is that? Because we don't want to give it to the poor people so they can eat properly and work properly and become rich. Look, it has been proven time and time again. Time and time out that there. The money that could totally eradicate poverty in the United States is like, let's say the military budget which sucks up most of the money. Which is bloated beyond belief. Let's say the military budget is the sun. And then you have the planet earth next to the sun. And then you see, you know, the earth or Uranus, Mayanus, Saturn. You see the little dot. How much larger the sun is.  That is what it would take to eradicate poverty if you took a little tiny percentage of the massive military budget and corporate welfare. Which they don't complain about ever. And you wouldn't have to worry about, you know, cutting this and cutting that and food stamps. And the economy would work well. And the welfare and forget about Bill Clinton's and Newt Gingrich's crappy welfare system. You could afford to bring back the original welfare system. You wouldn't need a welfare system. But then the Republicans would cry and complain. And guess who always gives them face time. Even if things are going well for the mainstream America. Republicans cry. And mainstream media always puts the camera on them when they cry and whine and complain. Taxpayers maya. Hey, you know what?  You got your rich?  Pay your taxes and keep quiet.  Or leave the country. That's it. You know, people are afraid to say no to others. You know what I mean? Like modern parents are afraid to say no to their children. Politicians are afraid to say no to corporate sponsors and so on and so forth. The Republicans sure say no to the poor. Oh, absolutely. Okay. Anyway, and that's it, baby. End time prophecy is being fulfilled. America, it's not the communism that's the enemy. It is the devil's economics of free market capitalism, which is the evil enemy. And that's it. It's all yours, buddy. The Reverend Dr. William J. Eisen. We got that new newsletter cut off the pancake griddle. So get your subscription to support this work. Hey, support this work. I watched another one of those young geeky spinoffs of Sankyuger of the Young Turks. All these young, very geeky spinoffs trying to do the Sank routine. Talk about politics. This kid is a geek. What was his name? I should have wrote it down. Well, yeah. Well, there's only two more. There's only two that are popular. I should have wrote them down. All right, this kid. I put it on our Facebook group. He's got the friggin webcam. From here, from his clavicle, his collarbone, and up.  The background, his living room wall or dining room wall. That's all it is. That's no professional background. And he's rambling. Almost 20,000 views. This geeky punk, almost 20,000 views. What was he talking about? He's talking about the current politics. Well, that's what gets you to views what you're talking about. There's no living room wall behind him. He has no showmanship charisma whatsoever. He's just... That's the way he sounded. What about the guys who do it in their own car?  All the time, the guys with the beards.  We need a good boy with a gun to take care of a bad man.  You know what it's like?  The selfie. They love selfies. When you see the damn smartphone, they're taking the photo and they're in the mirror and you see the smartphone in the photograph. It's not a professionally done photograph. They need a selfie stick. The studio. The young guys that are off-shoots, spin-offs of sync, they have no... A couple of them that have money have a studio. They got the effects that I admire. This kid with the 20,000 views, he's got his dining room wall behind him. He's like...  You know what? Americans are the stupidest, where is he? He's being spocked, illogical. There is nothing more illogical than an American today. Any generation. I don't care what generation it is.  I'm online at Walgreens to pick up a family member's prescription and I'm talking. This old man, this old guy next to me, this cocksucker, you don't even smile. You don't even smile at any of my jokes. You know, I wanted to get cracking right across the jaw so hard.  You know how many people, you know, they're online at the store and you're razzling him and dazzling him and let's say you get one person to talk to you to laugh at your jokes. You got people with no sense of humor.  And they think they know politics. They think they know the world. Shit. That's why Hillary got away with cheating. That's why you believe Hillary is the right person for the job. Meanwhile, she's as corrupt as they can do to her teeth. Nothing but illogic in America today. Old man's buck.   Now we will sink our teeth into these readings. Well, at least that guy, you cocksucker, is not like the big studios who use the green screen so that they can lie about their interviews and where they occur and etc. Well, Brother Sank of the Young Toys, he's got a studio like Jesse Ventura has where, you know, if he's talking about an issue in a nanosecond, the article appears, you know, behind him and then you get a close-up.  And then it goes back to Sank, nanosecond, back to Sank. Then the girl, the chicky poo, the high-pitched voice, and Mike, if she's next to him, not always, but it'll go to her. I mean, very professional, just like Jesse has. You know, Jesse's talking and he's off the grid in Baja, Mexico, and he's got the flag waving. He's talking and there's the American flag actually waving behind him. He's got a nice setup, but he's part of AuraTV, like, you know, Larry King. Do you want to see a great state-of-the-art studio?  Excuse me. And you look at Fox News, three o'clock in the afternoon, Shepard Smith. Wait a minute. And you will see, you will not believe the state-of-the-art studio. There's a Fox News program on local Lodi, on a local Lodi station. Did I not just say Fox Channel 26? Oh, yeah. In Lodi, New Jersey, with optimum online? Oh, that's if you have optimum. Now I have Verizon files. Well, I don't know where it is on there. No, it's a different number. I have to get used to all different numbers now. They should have given you a... I did, they did. I have it. I got to read it. Oh, I got to read it. I was eight. I was looking for, um, the Travel Channel, and it's not the same channel anymore. I see. So, but I was, forget about, forget about, uh, Mysteries at the Museum. I was watching Ancient Aliens. It was all night, and it was freaking fantastic. One after the next, Ancient Aliens. Seven bells for that program. Now there's a new convention called, uh, Alien Con, and all of the people who produce Ancient Aliens will be there. Seven bells for Alien Con and Ancient Aliens. Sink your teeth, brother. Which is hotter from another mother? The inner core of the earth. Like no other. Or the surface of the sun. You know what? I would have to say it's the inner core of the earth. You may be surprised to learn that the inner core of the earth is roughly the same temperature as the sun. Roughly the same. That's incredible. 11,000 degrees Fahrenheit. That's incredible. Well, that's how we get all the seismic activity and volcanic eruptions and, you know, tectonic plates shifting. Even more surprising, the sun's corona. Those gorgeous jets of plasma we see shooting from its exterior during an eclipse. I think there used to be a Toyota corona. It's far hotter than its surface. You would expect the solar atmosphere to be much less warm. But in fact, its temperature is in the millions of degrees.  As the corona cools, matter is blown away. Well, it's a beer. We call this the solar wind. Not the, what was that song, the summer wind? No, this is the solar wind. Oh, the solar wind. Proper food handling and hand washing are nothing to sneeze at. That's cute. Foodborne illness remains a serious issue that can sicken even healthy people with strong immune systems. In a recent op-ed article in The Record on germs, health, and the five-second bagel rule, Anna DeVon Sand made the case that germs are necessary for healthy immune function. Speak for yourself. What is she related to the sand, the person who invented the sand which? That's Lord Sandwich, please. There was no sand involved in the first sandwich? Not unless you were at the beach. For fiber?  And she argued that the five-second rule is a reasonable approach to dealing with food that falls on the floor. Listen to me. The person who handles the money at the register should never, ever, ever handle the food. Cross-contamination is the rule I follow. Go ahead. While there is evidence that exposure to some microbes in infancy and throughout life helps to stimulate the immune system, Sand's argument fails to recognize the critical difference between harmless microbes and pathogenic. I don't want germs on my food. That's it. Plain and simple. This chick can say anything she wants. Disease-causing microbes that can pose a grave risk to health. Our modern approach to hygiene, including appropriate hand washing, food handling, has made us healthier. It has contributed to a dramatic decrease in infectious diseases, a decrease in infant mortality, and an increase in average life expectancy. These advances should not be taken lightly, since even though we know a lot more about germs, there still continue to be outbreaks of serious life-threatening diseases. Recently, there were reports of outbreaks of highly contagious diseases on college campuses, including meningitis at Rutgers University, and mumps at Sacred Heart and Harvard University. I always thought that was a funny name for an illness, mumps. Remember moops from the Seinfeld? George was playing the bubble boy.  Mumps. The Centers for Disease Control estimates that one in six Americans are victims of food-borne illnesses every year. Of those cases, more than 100,000 are hospitalized, and an estimated 3,000 die. In the handbook, Surviving in a Germ-Filled World, I explain how to reduce your risk of infectious disease through proper hand hygiene and food handling. If you're sick, stay home, number one rule. Don't go to work. In fact, how did you, idiots? Regarding the so-called five second rule, if food falls on the floor, it may or may not be safe to eat, if it is recovered within a few seconds, some surfaces, such as a sidewalk that has been baking the sun, may be relatively germ-free. What about the deut and dust? But some, like bathroom or kitchen floors or public spaces, maybe teeming with bacteria and viruses. You know, this woman is really funny. From human waste. This woman is gross, man. Or contaminated food. She's allowing... She didn't allow anything. That's being permissible. Yet. Yet, yet. You didn't hear yet? Yet. Would you want the five second rule to be practiced by a restaurant worker who would drop your pizza? Yeah, and throw it... Or your burger? Tossing your pizza like a frisbee and it goes into the bathroom. Oh, you're doing a sandwich on the floor? Uh, no. A person that prepares food should prepare it right correctly and not worry about being in a rush because the other customers don't feel like waiting. Let me tell you about the general public. I used to work... I used to serve the general public years and years ago. I hated at guts. You want good food. I don't care how rich you are. You wait for it.  I wish I meet you... I wish I met up with you now.  If they do subscribe... I know a lot of nice people. I met a lot of nice people too. This practice... where they pick it up quickly enough they can still serve it to you. Clearly, it is not a good idea to permit this practice in public. And it is likewise risky to do it at home. I know who you are. When it comes to hand hygiene and food safety there is a great deal of ignorance regarding proper policy and practices. People choose to believe all sorts of unscientific tales including the five-second rule. People who know better are also failing to wash hands properly putting themselves and others at risk. But proper hygiene including hand washing and food handling is like wearing a seat belt. Most of the time you do not need the seat belt. But at that instant when your car careens into a ditch you are lucky to have it on. Damn right. Well, a condom is different. You definitely need it when you wear it. A seat belt is... In most cases you really don't need it. And you know what? Some days if you have a motorcycle some days you wear your motorcycle helmet and nothing happens. But all it takes is one split second for something to go wrong. So that is what you have to be prepared for. Now the word hygiene was that created by a very popular man by the name of Eugene and everybody said hi to him. Hi Gene. I know, is it a cheesy joke, right? Those are the levity bells. In our everyday lives most of the time we are not exposed to disease-causing germs. But when you do encounter the flu virus or eat coli bacteria or are exposed to meningitis or the mumps you will be safer if you practice good hand washing and food handling. You may never know that you saved yourself from serious disease or even death as germs are invisible. And being exposed to an infection is not as dramatic as a car crash. So buckle up in the car and practice good hygiene. That's right. And throw away the disposable gloves if you work in the food industry. Change them often. Never handle money and food at the same time. You knuckle heads you and please wear your motorcycle helmet. Please. Don't be like Gary Busey. You know. That means washing hands properly after using the bathroom. That's right. And before eating. That's right. And not eating food. That fell on the floor. That's absolutely right. You're right. I even wash a vitamin when it falls on the floor. You're right, you're right. Pick it up. Well, even if it's a capsule. I mean, it's not going to like it's not going to disintegrate through the casing that quickly. I mean, you could rinse it enough where it's clean. You know what I mean? If it's a capsule, it's not going to the gelatin is not going to melt that fast. So it could be done. Sure. You may never find out that you just avoided a bout of food poisoning. But believe me, it is better than the alternative. Yeah. Risking serious disease. And when you prepare food always use different cutting boards. Clean it. Especially when chicken and stuff like that to wash your hands. Poultry. Poultry. Should only be cut on one board. Don't cross contaminate. Vegetables. Salads on a board of its own. I guess pork and beef on a third board. Do not ever put anything on the poultry board. Because of risk of salmonella. And if you put salad lettuce or some vegetables on the beef and pork, you know, you might have E. coli. What is that that pork has? Trigonosis? Well, that probably is not around anymore. That's true. Oh, really quick. And this is no joke. This is serious. This is very serious. Very serious. This is the James P. Madonna produce wash. Homemade produce wash.  Could be room temperature or cold. Put a dash of white vinegar, a dash of hydrogen peroxide and some baking soda. You don't have to measure them particularly. Just like a little glug glug glug, you know, layman's terms. Glug glug glug. Maybe it might be about a quarter of a cup. I don't know.  Could be for 15 minutes. I do a half hour. And then you rinse well. That will take kill bacteria. Everything. Take off the pesticides. You know, remove any pesticides. Dirt does whatever. Right? You can do that. They say even removes the wax from wax fruit. I don't like to buy fruit with wax on it because that seals in the pesticides. And if it's coming from Chile, South America, like an apple or whatever. Why the hell do we need import apples? Well, the problem is that South America is still using the old DDT that when it got banned in the United States, of course an American company can't take a loss. Heaven forbid, right? So they sold it to overseas. So they're still using the DDT down there. You? You gotta be aware of these things. I mean, I am very happy that there are countries, more and more countries banning Monsanto's GMOs and going organic. I salute all of you countries that are saying no to Monsanto. And now, I believe Vermont is giving Monsanto the boot. Hey, why are Hillary Clinton campaign people meeting with Vermont super-delegates? That's Bernie country. That's Sanders country up there.  Because she's trying to woo them now to her side. How much does she need on her side? She's already won by cheating. She wants to woo more? Yes, because she wants to unite the party. I don't think all the super-delegates have made the final decision here. All the super-delegates. Well, they were added to her slate, weren't they? From the beginning. From the beginning? Yeah. From the beginning she was the projected winner. Yeah. Why does the party have to survive? Why? Why does the Democratic party have to be unified?  And maybe a new progressive party, who knows. Why the hell do you need a two-party system? That's everybody. I read about it on the internet. Solidarity of the Democratic party. Who cares?  Like insurance companies.  Your attitude towards people is despicable. I wish we did have universal health care so you can go belly up. Anton Yelchin a rising actor best known for playing Chekhov in the new Star Trek films was killed by his own car. Seriously? As he rolled down his driveway early on Sunday. Chekhov was accidentally killed? The car pinned Yelchin 27 against a brick mailbox pillar 27 27 years old and a security fence at his home in Los Angeles. How could he be 27? This is not the original Chekhov. Did you not hear? I emphasized it. New Star Trek. Oh. Old man Chekhov is still alive. That is correct. That's a shame. He had gotten out of his vehicle. I noticed they are not mentioning the vehicle which was a Jeep Cherokee. The Jeep Cherokees have a problem with the gear shift. You think you put it in park and you did it. And the car rolled. That's a nice juicy lawsuit by his family. Against the Chrysler Corporation. He just got the letter to take it in and have it fixed. Recall? People in Southern California around LA they just have to live way up on those hills where there is landslides mudslides you get frequent visiting from Cougars in your backyard mountain lions I had raccoons on my roof. The other night. That hill where the big letters Hollywood is Cougars up there. What is that drive? Mulholland Drive. It's like a racing course where you can only go 5 miles an hour. And then is the one who built back in the pioneer days Los Angeles. He played a key role in the development of Mr. Mulholland that was named up there. He had gotten out of the vehicle momentarily. Poor kid. But police did not say why he was behind it when it started rolling. He was on his smartphone texting. Yelchin was on his way to meet friends for a rehearsal. When he didn't show up the group came to his home and found him dead. The freak accident tragically cuts short of the promising career of the Russian born actor and life too. Whom audiences were still to know and who had great artistic ambition. Star Trek Beyond the third film in the rebooted series comes out in July. It's a shame though, guy.  It's a freak accident. A freak accident is generally an accident that should not have happened. It's a freak. A fluke. It's like when Dr. Robert Atkins slipped on the ice walked in front of the entrance to his office, his medical clinic and slipped on the ice and hit his head and ended up dying from that. Meanwhile, he was one of the kingpins of nutrition in all times. And he has this freak accident that killed him. Or if you slip on something in the bathtub. Something that shouldn't have happened. Like my brother-in-law's cousin's mother-in-law she was elderly, but she was okay. She was fine. She slips in the bathroom and hits her head and she dies from that. I would consider that a freak accident. Of course. It's untimely death. Unexpected untimely death.  It's like a fluke of fate, really. It's like a fickle finger of fate. You know? We are so fragile. We are barnacles on the dinghy of life. I think I heard that on the odd couple. That's a good metaphor. Barnacles on the dinghy of life. The fickle finger of fate was laughing, right? Fickle finger of fate award. We're going to take a break. Lunchtime. And and then we usually have our lunchtime banter. And then we'll you'll be joined by our commercial voiceover specialist William Hamilton Moral of the Third with promo. And also how to defeat a conservative Bible verses. Simply hit the pause button. Read it and learn. You can hit the pause button.  Split them up in in many little shop videos. Hey, hit the pause button. Do what you gotta do. Come back. When you log off the computer, just just take over where you're left off. That's all you gotta do.   Part one, part two, part three, part four, part five. You know? Yeah. It didn't make a damn bit of difference. You people are Jabronis about the content of the show. They don't care. I don't know how, what makes Americans think today or especially millennials totally illogical completely illogical whether you have a state-of-the-art studio or whether you're in your mother's dining room like that kid that geek you know with 20,000 views I don't care. There is no logic in today's humanity. None whatsoever especially Americans totally illogical they don't really want to be happy they don't really want change they don't really want the grassroots progressive revolution They want to be miserable they want to they want those plays from the end time from the book of Revelation they want them they want to suffer they want to get banged up the ass with no astroglyde no KY jelly That's ridiculous. They want to suffer They're suffering under the rich and the corporations do you really do you really think the rich are going to have those too see you think you think the rich are going to the rich have bunkers in missile silos for God's sake they're still going to suffer under the end time play well I guess they're going to be in for a mighty they're going to be in for a mighty big surprise when those when dem dawg playing start well they'll be in a very big surprise when the United States is nothing anymore hey I bet the Koch brothers and Hilary Clinton I bet they think they're going to take it all with them what when we are taken away as captives slaves the Americans no but I mean these people that are never rich enough who are maybe it's almost like they think they're going to take it all with them like the pharaohs obviously they do don't they yes that's what I mean again illogical alright we'll see you the best way to join our organization is to get your free annual 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router whatever is much thinner, more streamlined everything the cable boxes are smaller and streamlined I mean it's definitely an upgrade logically so I'm happy with that and the price is a lot cheaper than what optimum is charging for not having fiber optics they're using the coaxial twisted copper cable now we have fiber optics from the company into the basement from the basement throughout the house is copper but everything else is dedicated fiber optics so you know I told the guy does this mean I have a static IP address because it's a dedicated unshared line he says no you gotta pay separate for that what else is new corporate america then I asked him about the strike I said I'm glad you guys won your strike he says we didn't win anything he says well the article on the internet said you guys got what you wanted and everything he says it's bull bullshit the strike is over and we have to pay a little more for our health insurance oh you have to pay more for your health insurance so that means that means the union didn't really fight that hard for you guys because you are you got your jobs back and you're not really getting that much more money you just and you have to pay more for your health insurance well that's not a gain so I told the story about how people that work for UPS are in the teamsters and they're working in a hell hole shit hole you know I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy you know I mean the texts that work for Verizon that union obviously didn't do right by them because they have to pay more for their health insurance now if we had universal health care we wouldn't have to worry about any of this bullshit now do you see what I mean about keeping everything privatized and free market capitalism and the unions they're just not really fighting I mean they can kick ass you know well I can't you put me in charge I'll take down the whole company I'll smack them around unions are in disdain today as long as they exist they can fight well that's what they're not doing because they are no longer existing they are slowly attritting attrition is killing them because corporations do not like them who cares what the rich thinking what they don't think this is war buddy this is class war you learn from the recent election my friend this is class war the people don't want change is that why you can preach all you want are you trying to say see these balls are you trying to say that companies have easy access to possibly scab workers if the union goes on strike or how does the union end up taking a cut in benefits instead of a gain a surplus from the union's point of view it's better to lose than the union how does the union become in danger how in danger of what because corporations don't want them of course they never wanted them and guess who has more power but they never wanted them no kidding that's why they're getting rid of them slowly but surely how could a corporation get rid of an organization that hates them how do you how do they get rid of them by getting scabs by getting other workers than those in unions so we're talking about presenting unions what do they do down south we're talking about sellouts right what do they do down south people better not give up the guns with their right to work laws they prevent unions yes they might pay you they might pay the non-union scab maybe they'll pay you pretty good and they'll give you a good benefits to keep the unions out that's one way they'll do it you know they don't want to pay benefits that's why they're getting rid of unions well then how do they keep the workers from going with a union if the workers are let me tell you something if the workers become angry and disgruntled and say I hate this scumbag fucking CEO or this company he's not paying me enough this fucking company's not giving me enough benefits and why the hell should I care about my job performers I gotta get out of bed in the morning for this fucking company of course somebody like that is gonna say hey man where do I sign I'll join that union yeah but they prevent them from doing that they prevent the union from coming in that's correct and those that are there they cut and cut and cut and cut till there's nothing left well that's kinda like what I was explained to by somebody in the pro wrestling industry you never had a pro wrestling union because there are too many people that are suckups that are willing to do favors for the promoters for free just to get a spot they're so desperate to get that exposure that they'll do piss up Americans today do not know how to properly unify the word solidarity to come together and to fight as one unit everybody has their own selfish agenda that's capitalism individual the where did I hear that before about oh yes they said that maybe there's more than one but they said that the pope that started the inquisition was pope Gregory there might have been more than one pope Gregory because I know there was something called the Gregorian calendar anyway pope Gregory started the inquisition because the Catholic church or he in particular felt threatened by science and not educating people and other religions he felt threatened by people in other religions by sorcerers cult anybody in a different religion that wasn't Catholicism if you were guilty of witchcraft so they had people going out looking for heretics guilty of heresy and then they would torture you and then burn you to the stake but I'm not talking about the other religions and the witchcraft let's focus on science he didn't like science he didn't want the people to advance mentally or technologically it was bad for him it was bad for society and for the church for people to have more knowledge look at the image he suppressed science look at the image they don't want to change they don't want advancement they don't want evolution and then he mentioned he didn't want individuality isn't that the same isn't that the same as a critical free thinker with an open mind one who will question us we do not like that to question us that's what Martin Luther did what was mentioned also during the acquisition by Pope Gregory he didn't want any threat to the status quo kind of sounds familiar to you doesn't it sounds familiar same old same old same old same old has anything really changed no since then human evolution you have it has only happened on an individual basis you have the totalitarian popes you have the totalitarian monarchs the kings royal families and now you have the corporate oligarchy since the industrial revolution and you have like what's to say there's no difference they're all totalitarian the wealthy hoarding everything for themselves and giving nothing to you it's the same system it's the same system by the way what Fidel Castro said recently was right about the NATO and the United States and Israel are guilty of creating ISIS and he says NATO is equal to Nazi stormtroopers the war mongering and blah blah blah hey if that's the case you can't make those comparisons today whatever they do bad they do it differently than the stormtroopers do it's more subtle thank you it's more subtle like this reenactment of the draft for both men and women but it's never the rich kids that go interesting how all of this works gee I wonder if Chelsea's I wonder if Hillary's grandchildren from Chelsea will end up going to a war that she starts that would be a quite payback wouldn't it that'll be a Twilight Zone episode karma at its best anyway return to the readings return with a smile to those days of yesterday address no such number oh boy we are long-winded man probably my fault much of the attention during the presidential campaign will be on the two major party nominees but as far as the Republicans are concerned this election is more than just about Donald Trump for instance over the last seven plus years President Obama has had a responsible constructive record the stock market has more than doubled the deficit has been cut by two thirds unemployment has been cut by more than one half Osama bin Laden is dead and the United States auto industry was saved and more than 15 million Americans have health insurance who didn't have it before what have Republicans been doing during this time they tried to sabotage Obamacare by voting to repeal it more than 60 times tried to sabotage everything Obama wanted because they don't want the black man in the white house that's obvious but Obama is still establishment capitalist politician he's not like having a Bernie Sanders so anyway they tried most of it they tried to sabotage and increase to the debt ceiling and in the process shut the government down and almost forced a catastrophic default on our debts they keep trying to strip funding from Planned Parenthood and won't stop their endless Benghazi investigation until they find something on Hillary Clinton there are multiple probes showing otherwise oh shit she's guilty she's guilty and from the first day of Obama's presidency senate republicans have immaturely and stubbornly blocked and unprecedented number of executive and judicial branch nominees but this person wants to go down just one just one responsible or constructed thing they've done for their country just one I can't think of any I can't think of anybody shouldn't be protecting that that vile evil which Hillary Clinton see these are people that are that seem to be the vote in their whole life saving the democratic party everything is democratic gotta get away from the two major parties and money overturning citizens united which is still a big topic well it's still gonna remain a topic Bernie Sanders is not happy with the the issue platform for the democratic national convention oh I wonder why the platform is not I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it is not progressive what is on the minds of mainstream Americans and it is not progressive thank you you gotta really think hard about what the democratic party is today and it's not anything like the party of FDR Truman and JFK it's the same flip side of the it's the opposite side of the same corporate oligarch coin I don't know when people are gonna realize that it's like what issues are important to them but they're not hearing it from the people they're supporting like Hillary it's like you're not using not even common sense in your political decisions I would say over half of the people who will eventually vote for Hillary are voting for her for one reason and one reason only she'll be the first woman in the White House I wanna make history hey, you made history with Barack Obama and he he ended up being a corporatist you know Monsanto Protection Act Pro-TT, I mean TPP you know I mean not really ending the wars like was promised or Guantanamo Guantanamo I'm surprised if Castro family is not getting help from Russia and China to kick the US out of Guantanamo because that's technically Cuban land I'm surprised they're tolerating America's presence in Guantanamo they have for a long time you know they can easily send Russian nuclear navy over there saying get the fuck out of here Putin can say get the fuck out of Cuba you know I believe that the press has a role to play in the war against terrorism acts of terrorism are frequently messages sent by the perpetrators to publicize their cause or their viewpoint reporting more than the most basic of details grants them the publicity they create not mentioning their names viewpoints or causes devalues the act of terrorism do not give them publicity well they get plenty of it don't they no culeans no culeans no culeans oh there was an article on a pro-Obama person that's on my friends list about how the media did not make public like it was a part of the country where there was a Muslim Middle Eastern neighborhood and they were all running in the streets screaming death to America death to America and it was like a big riot but it was not shown it was not shown on the news there's a lot of big things going down that are not shown on the news there you go you see how they don't want American people to see certain things because the news is corporate funded the stations are corporate funded so did they think that if all Americans saw Muslims shouting death to America that there would be violence perpetrated against Muslim Americans there probably would be more yes altercation you know what happened with that guy the other day with the Imam he said it was they killed people they tried to kill us wait and then he tried to kill the Imam the mom Imam the leader of the mosque I don't know these terms future brownie Muslim he's like a preacher a priest a minister how come I didn't even hear on the mainstream media about this that they fired a bullet at Donald Trump I didn't hear that it was in several articles online I didn't hear it on the news today's American media doesn't want you to know anything nothing it's all about it's all about Hillary Hillary Trump Trump Trump Trump Hillary Trump Trump Hillary Hillary Trump it's the same thing if anything happens they don't tell you how would a bouncing ball sing along with Mitch Miller remember him they're not telling you anything they don't want you to know anything nothing propaganda not news it's all scripted I bet too millions of social security beneficiaries would get a tiny increase in monthly payment next year oh don't spend it all in one place people a tiny increase the increase will be less than $2.50 hey seven bells for $2.50 my uncle used to hand me $2.00 and say hey kid don't spend it all in one place that's how he sounded I used to get a quarter but you're older than me hey kid don't spend it all don't forget where the money came from these old Italians they always throw it up to your face when they give you some it's like it's better not to get the money from them $2.50 is about enough to buy a gallon of gas one whole gallon wow how exciting that's gonna help our economy that's gonna really make it's gonna make your life that much better wow you get an extra gallon of gas in your tank forget about like maybe filet mignon and a lobster tail for dinner oh no or a ribeye steak oh no gas meanwhile Medicare is expected to go bankrupt sooner than expected oh gee I wonder oh gee I wonder why and some beneficiaries could face higher monthly premiums next year let me guess Washington wants to privatize everything connected to healthcare the annual report oh no fraud is rampant in Medicare oh doctors the doctors say what they want and they get it they've been ripping off and then they complain they don't want to take Medicare patients they don't pay me enough my doctor decided to stop taking Medicaid well it's the same deal they don't pay them enough well Medicare gives them less money too for what they normally get no they get much more they can make more from private that's the problem in England they pay the doctors they are not in it privately for fee for service like here so the doctor in private he can make more money from the guys come off the street with a Cadillac health insurance but isn't committing fraud against Medicare stealing from the government stealing from us what are you talking about the government we are the government they're stealing and they're getting away with it well Wall Street got away with it in 2008 how come you don't see doctors being brought to justice for this how come you don't see Wall Street bankers brought to justice for this you don't see it but with the little guy they'll throw away the key that's correct you see people serving life sentences for marijuana you see a guy in Texas serving a life sentence for kiting three checks three strikes in your outlaw and I heard the stand your ground law is not doing so well you know you got people getting pissed at his fellow man blowing them away well I think she was four years old girl the other day shot her shot herself in the eye she said how'd she get the gun I don't know well you know them rednecks like to teach their young ins how to use a firearm not a water pistol like I had I had water pistols I had a cap pistol they want them to they put real big guns in their hands to learn so they can protect the family against the government and who's running the government who the fuck the republicans so who are they afraid of I mean the NRA ass kissers so who are they afraid of nobody ever came for their friggin guns exactly but it's a good raising money to land it for the republican patty so hypocritical American politics I mean it's pathological you know and when these right wing public and evangelical stalk it's like what the fuck are you what are you telling me you can't prove your religion your religion is a cult number one but even if you were one of those nice bible study in Christians you still can't prove it so why are you trying to why are you trying to mix religion with politics politics should be based on evidence you know like you know you convict the murderer because without a shadow of a doubt he or she is found guilty of first degree murder blah blah blah blah or whatever crime they commit you have you have evidence evidence unbiased evidence same thing with everything else you want to talk to the greatest scientific minds if you're the president of the united states you don't want to talk to a bunch of evangelical idiots I think the earth is only 5000 years old 6000 years old the annual report from the trustees of the government's two bedrock retirement programs warned that politically gridlocked Washington needs to act sooner rather than later to shore up finances and avoid upending the lives of millions of retirees and their families social securities trust funds are expected to be depleted in 2034 depleted stolen you mean unchanged from the trustees projection one year ago medicare's trust fund for inpatient care will be exhausted excuse me in 2028 two years earlier than previously project mean blood drive of vampires if congress allows either fun to run dry millions of americans living on fixed incomes would face steep cuts in benefits yeah steep cut right from year to year lawmakers should address these financial challenges as soon as possible taking action sooner rather than later will permit consideration of a broader range of solutions and provide more time to phase in changes so that the public has adequate time to prepare the projected increase listen closely is zero point two percent wow guacamole batman huge I think today savings accounts are paying zero point zero twenty five hey don't spend it all one place people and these payments would come a year after beneficiaries received no increase by law increases are based on a government measure of inflation which has been low the official twenty seventeen cost of living adjustment or cola won't be determined until the fall advocates complain that the government's measure of inflation the cpi for urban wage earners and clerical workers doesn't adequately reflect the prices that older americans pay seniors continue to see their modest social security benefits in no way by growing health care costs more than sixty million retirees disabled workers spouses receive social security benefits the average monthly payment is about twelve hundred and thirty two dollars after social security's trust funds are depleted the program would collect enough in payroll taxes to pay only seventy nine percent of benefits Medicare's problem is more immediate and more complicated because health care costs can change in unpredictable ways Medicare provides health insurance for more than fifty five million people including seniors and disabled people after it's inpatient care trust funds run dry in twenty twenty eight Medicare would be able to pay only eighty seven percent of projected costs Medicare's insolvency date has moved closer despite a recent stretch of slow growth in health care costs with notable exceptions like prescription drugs experts who advised the trustee said the change of insolvency dates was mainly technical due in part to lower than expected income from payroll taxes in more worrisome news the trustee said that some Medicare beneficiaries may face sharply higher part B monthly premiums for outpatient care next year by law increases in premiums for most Medicare recipients cannot exceed their increase in social security payments so about seventy percent are held harmless however about thirty percent of beneficiaries are not covered by that safeguard those who would feel the impact include new beneficiaries and people with higher incomes the trustee's project that the base monthly premium for this group will increase by twenty seven dollars to one hundred forty nine dollars that should do it right for the week but you have one another one here change of pace slightly one more the right rock giant Led Zeppelin did not lift the music that formed the basis for their iconic hit stay away to heaven a jury found on Thursday clearing the iconic band of accusations that it stole the opening of one of rock's most celebrated songs somebody was suing them try to get on in on the action so he's a vampire out there trying to become a parasite very successful the unanimous decision by the panel of eight men and women came after a week long trial in which Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page and singer Robert Plant and bassist John Paul Jones took the stand to rebut the claim of thievery and tell how the band's most famous song was created nearly a half a century ago Jones was not a defendant in the case Page and Plant hugged members of their defense team after the clerk read the verdict that issue in the case was whether the British band stole the opening passage of stairway from Taurus an instrumental song by singer Randy Wolff so the only thing they had in common was the one word stairway titles are not copyrighted no but they're basing in a new word the music so Taurus used the word stairway you listen to what I'm saying the music the intro but it's only one word that they're bitchin' about it's not a word it's an instrumental on a guitar it's the notes the band Taurus or from the song Taurus whatever is claiming that the notes were the same oh that means plagiarism yeah copyright infringement I was thinking of something frivolous like in the fitness industry Mr. Scott Sonan claims to have copyrighted the word circular training nobody could use them well how could you copyright circular training if circular and training are in the dictionary if that is a title it is uncopyrightable if it's a title if it's a catch word you've just done that it's a phrase circular training you are making that a title titles are not copyrightable he doesn't even use it as a title he uses it as a sales pitch catchphrase circular big deal anything that goes in a circle cyclical and training big deal mononical anyway getting back to the anyway Mr. Randy Wolf also known as Randy California Randy California who wrote and performed with his L.A. Rock of Outfit Spirit which gained some popularity in the late 1960s and 70s for its novel fusion of rock with jazz and other styles of music Wolf died in 1997 at stake were potentially millions of dollars in royalty payments which would have gone to the estate of Mr. Wolf the dispute focused on a brief passage that arrives 45 seconds into Taurus an instrumental from Spirit's 1968 debut album those notes which evoke centuries old renaissance folk music sound similar to the opening guitar chords of stairway which was released in 1971 three years after Taurus I love Led Zeppelin I always did I salute and honor Led Zeppelin and you know what I'm just going to dedicate this week's show to the rock group Led Zeppelin because politically I had nothing favorable to say I'm not in a good mood at all this week and let's just dedicate the show to something positive which is the legendary group Led Zeppelin won their case, right? alright congratulations gentlemen Led Zeppelin won their case I love that song Cashmere it's great but anyway thank you for joining us for progressive discussions we'll see what the next the following week brings us because forget about my garden man my plants are all messed up climate change the only thing that's coming up is sage everything else well now you can make sage mashed potatoes sage chases away evil spirits oh sage is a great is a great culinary addition to chicken right sage sage sage seven bells for sage supernatural spirit oh I'm so afraid oh no sage cleanses all negative energy are you kidding me Amy Allen of the Dead Files talks about it every week she's a wiccan I think high priestess or something wiccan wiccan wiccan high priestess what? sage is powerful and it's tasty too goodbye I got mine you don't believe you're a non-believer don't don't be a hater of the craft the conjuring craft don't be a hater don't be a hater hey how you doing how you doing it's Enzo Mori right how you doing this has been a bag of life 21 production


Now, Sir, home run aside, how are you able to navigate yourself through that lineup with what looked like relative ease? I thought all my pictures were there from the start. I think Rosario had a good pitch being down on the count. And like I said before, I think command the both sides of the plate everything felt normal again. Did you make any specific adjustments coming into this start? No, no I said before I think just my areas where I was starting to were you know a little messed up, but I was able to throw to the correct spots today. How satisfying is it for you to to get back on track in a big way? Yeah, it feels great. I mean those two or three outings felt like a long time, so It's fun to be out there and compete and get my team of quality start It's that offense, do you just feel like it's a matter of time till they find some type of way to break out? Definitely I think our starters, you know, we're good with obviously wouldn't give up any runs, but two or three runs, four runs in a game still we still have a shot to get back and and win the game, so Every time our starters go five or six innings with a few runs Feels like we're still in there Honestly, I was a few starts before and it was no good for me so I just I took a one outing at a time and and Hopefully, you know bad time, but obviously that's not the main goal. The main goal is to you know Get those 30 starts in and and and keep on giving quality starts No, not necessarily I just think I would just I just think I was putting too much pressure myself I don't think the impact was as much as people might have thought it was but Just getting back to what made me successful the first 12 or 13 starts that I had Was the biggest thing for me and then everything else will fall in line. If I if I get to stick to the plan I feel great body and arm feels great. I said this before you know, obviously 15 starts his career high for me, so I Feel like I can keep going and hopefully I can continue like I said to do so You guys take a tough loss in Houston. You come bounce back with a double-header sweep What does that say about this game? Yeah, I mean It's I don't think it's nothing out of ordinary, you know, we've been we've been playing great baseball year-round I think coming in here and getting those two games were really important for us to get back on track Obviously, and we have a chance to speak tomorrow, which is another sweet for for us in the season So that would be good


From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of VMworld 2020. Brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem partners. Hello and welcome to theCUBE special coverage of VMworld 2020 virtual. I'm John Furrier, host of theCUBE. We have Stu Miniman, Dave Vellante all doing interviews covering the virtual version of VMworld. First time it's ever happened. We've been covering VMworld for over 10 years, our 11th season with theCUBE at VMworld. And of course it's different, it's virtual, but we're doing our part. We're getting in the programs. We need to get the stories out. And we've got a great guest here, Sumit Duvallan, who's the chief customer officer of VMware, back to VMware. He ran the end user computing of which we covered. AirWatch, a lot of great announcements. Sumit, great to see you. Thanks for coming on to theCUBE virtual. John, great to see you again and great to be back on theCUBE. So great to see you. And again, I know you came in, you're back into the wheelhouse of VMware. But as the theme of this show is putting the digital foundation for an unpredictable world also with COVID and going virtual, makes a lot of sense. However, VMware has been doing extremely well on the business performance side and making all the right tech moves. We've been covering them theCUBE, it's well documented. The business model is evolving. The performance is there. You are in a new role for VMware. It's newly created, chief customer officer. Tell us why you're back, why this role, why is it important? Yeah, great question, John. You know, I joined VMware because VMware, I looked at sort of what VMware is trying to do all aligned with what customers want. If you think about customers, they have been up until now dabbling with cloud, building sort of strategies on how to embrace cloud, which applications will go to which parts of the cloud. And it has been something that has been more of a slow roll strategy and with a multi-year cloud transition plan. Now VMware provides to some extent, this started out with operating system for the hardware and it has evolved to provide operating system for the cloud. It truly runs applications across multiple clouds. And with our partnerships with AWS, Azure, Microsoft, Google, we're able to sort of give our customers this multi-cloud platform for them to run any application, whether that's traditional or modern in a sort of unified operational fashion. Now, this is a different subscription world for customers, right? And customers in the world of cloud, especially when they're going into this kind of a transformational journey, you know, it requires VMware to think slightly differently. It's not just the traditional cell implement support kind of a customer model. You have to really help them achieve their outcome over a period of time and then make them successful as they continue to sort of face the uncertainties of the multi-cloud world. So Pat and Sanjay decided to create this new customer experience office and all different functions from success, support, digital engagement, as well as our consulting professional services, TAMS were put together so that we can offer integrated experiences to the customer. And that sounded exciting. And you know, we're making tons of interesting innovations there. Some announced at VMworld and very much aligned with an objective to help our customers move on to cloud. I want to dig into the news and the announcements because I think there's a specific thing I'd like to drill into, but I want to get your thoughts to me because I think VMware, and I've talked to Sanjay about this as well as Pat, clearly Kubernetes is the dial tone of the internet and investment cloud native, Project Monterey speaks to multi-cloud, totally get it. But COVID has accelerated, not only VMware, every company, whether they're on the delivery side of it, selling side or even consuming of the technology cloud, for instance, has forced the digital transformation and it's catching some people off guard, right? So I want to get your thoughts because you know, you have a value project and you sell it to customers, you implement it, you support it. I mean, that was a nice groove swing for enterprise vendors like VMware, but now with COVID and all the digital transformation acceleration, it's causing a lot of people to be ready faster. How do you get that readiness? What are you bringing to the table? What's your view on this? What's your reaction? Because if people try to figure this out, it's confusing. I mean, I, you know what, it's very interesting. For example, I will give you an example. There's like two extremes and both of them are dealing with a very similar situation, all caused because of COVID. Okay, on one end of the spectrum, there are customers who are saying, listen, our business is doing extremely well because of digital and all of a certain business needs this rapid agility which can only be achieved through modern applications and they're able to sort of move these applications because of elasticity of the cloud and leveraging multiple clouds to do so is extremely important. If you're on one side of the spectrum on your business where the business is doing extremely well, you have a percentage of the business that was coming from e-commerce, all of a certain that e-commerce has accelerated.  And there, their multi-cloud journeys are accelerated mostly because of just this surge in demand and change in capabilities that are needed to perform digital engagement with customers at a much, much rapid pace, which are very difficult to do without leveraging multiple clouds. That's one extreme. The other extreme is, you know, I'll give you an example from large scale airlines and we all know in the travel hospitality airline business, this is extremely slow business for them, right at this point of time and they're using the opportunity of this sort of time when things are slower to say, okay, why don't we take this opportunity to fundamentally change our digital engagement and truly embrace multi-cloud while doing so because there is an opportunity to do so, the workload on the applications and the infrastructure is not high. Little more technology reasons, little bit more sort of a downtime reason sort of go through the transformation faster. In other words, both ends of the spectrum, I'm seeing customers move towards sort of this destination faster. And guess what? There is really no one at this stage outside of VMware who can help them achieve that because otherwise you've said a single voice. You know, there are players who will guide you to their singular cloud solution and running, you know, what I tell customers is multi-cloud doesn't mean you are running two different architectures on two different clouds, right? That's not multi-cloud. Multi-cloud means running a singular architecture on multiple clouds because that's when you get true governance and true operational scale and true experience and elasticity and control. And that's what VMware is all about. So we are now engaged with those conversations and helping customers at both the front end, right? When they're engaged with us at this stage but we have also now tailored our service delivery and our success offerings and how we engage with customers digitally and sort of technically and through people in once they start their journey with us and they sort of embark on leveraging the technology into multi-cloud. So that's the sort of shift that has occurred. Yeah, I want to unpack the offering in a second but I want to stay in the customer experience for a minute.  Okay, it's actually happening now and I totally agree with you, by the way. There's the modernization trend. You just basically spoke to the spectrums but it's about modernization. Okay, if you think modernization, you think business model. The business model is, hey, it's pretty light right now. I'm not a lot of people traveling. Let's retool, let's modernize. Let's use our resources and modernize our business which is a lot of applications. It's everything up and down the stack. And then the companies that have a tailwind with COVID who have had the epiphany and saying, if we don't build a modern app or have modern apps in market, we're out of business. So there's a critical urgency to coming out of it with a growth strategy. That's a business model transformation. Totally get that. That's where the customers are. So the question for you is, okay, how do you talk to the customer that is saying, hey, I'm building a modern app. We have to pivot. We're forced to pivot. Whatever word you want to use, forced to survive. They're now, they have to build a modern app. How do you guys support that customer? How does that customer, what does that customer need to be successful? Yeah, I mean, I think it starts with an architectural approach, right? We bring to the customers an architectural approach across multiple clouds that help them when they go for their existing applications or new modern applications, conforming to one operating model and one architecture. Because in this time, you know, customers have many critical line of business applications. This airline customer I was talking about, they have 600 applications that are quite critical.  And how it starts with connecting them with a unified architecture and a unified operating model is how we start with customers, okay? And that is where the power of VMware comes in. Because like I said, it becomes this architectural operating system for the customers to run and adopt multiple clouds. You got to be the chief customer officer. You're the quarterback, you're the one in charge of making sure that customers are happy, okay? And they get what they need. And again, there's different aspects of it. What are you guys announcing at VMworld 2020 virtual that people should pay attention to around servicing customers in this new subscription and SaaS world? Yeah, I think besides the technology announcements in terms of modern sort of a multi-cloud platform, the architecture with Project Monterey, from the customer experience side, we did announce make two announcements. One was for customers embarking on a journey. We want to make sure that customers get everything they need to be successful on the journey on an ongoing basis. Some of these journeys for large customers, John, can take not just sort of three months, but three years because they are dealing with the various applications. So for that, we announced two pretty simple and easy to embrace offerings. One is app navigator. App navigator enables customers to quickly assess which applications have to be on one end rewritten, completely rewritten. And on the other end, simply sort of rehosted, okay? And there are multiple options in between and we call them as a five-hour model with customers. And we guide customers through our own assessment and working with customers on how to sort of segment their applications and use a common architecture across all of them that we can then help them with. And secondly, to help them with, we announced something called Success360. Success360 is our mechanism to guide and help customers on an ongoing basis for a success plan with continuous sort of adoption guidance, design workshops, as well as providing the dedicated support that customers need for embracing multiple cloud across all the cloud with this architecture. This way, customers get assured that they're able to get the right upfront sort of assessment on applications and ongoing success, okay? And that's sort of what we announced within customer experience side. And we have enabled all of this available to people, that are critical for large scale engagements, but also digital, just like our customers are innovating with digital, we innovated with our own digital environment and we brought it all together with something called Customer Connect, all available with one single digital experience that's mobile-friendly, alert-driven, search-driven, all the AI that's needed at this point in time in terms of engaging with customers with proactive notifications and guidance in terms of how they're doing with success built into a singular experience so that they can engage with us and we can engage with them to make them successful. And so it's people and technology you guys are bringing to the table. What can customers expect? Because as they've worked with VMware, you've always had great technical support, obviously there's been a technology-driven company, but as you start getting into SaaS, you're starting to get into the business model transformation. How do you guys- That's right. Impacting the customers and how you go to market and how you service your customer base? Yeah, I think there are two elements what customers can expect. One, they don't have to stand up in engagement and experience model completely separate for a small set of applications on a completely different cloud architecture. They can just fit and build a single experience of dealing with VMware as a mechanism to enable all of their applications to be hosted regardless of which cloud they're in. And they do it at their own pace as in when they're ready for applications. Secondly, and more importantly for the business model transformation side, we have a model where we continue to show them the value realization, okay? Because these are true business model transformations. At this stage, there is a lot of investment that's coming into IT, while at the same time, the rest of the business is doing belt tightening. So there is a continuous pressure on our customers, our IT that is the champion for the customers and they're working with developers in line of business teams and they have to continue to show how what they're investing into as a singular platform or an architecture is going to deliver some kind of a value on an ongoing basis. So we have delivered on an ongoing basis, reports and feedback and continuous sort of information back to the customers so that they can take back to their businesses on all the investments they're making now are on an ongoing basis, what value the business is getting. Because at the end of the day, in this, this is probably the first time where IT is probably getting the least belt tightening in the case of sort of an economic downturn and in fact, IT has been looked at as a way to invest out of the downturn, right? So they're going to be in a way where they're sometimes even going into the boardroom and showing not just governance but also sort of the investments they made or what kind of value they got. So those are the two things we're providing. Seamless and at pace move to multicloud with a common experience and second ongoing value realization that they can communicate wherever they need to. Submit, you know, we've been following VMWare for many, me personally first since it was founded but with theCUBE since 2010, it's our 11th year. You know, we've been critical of times and pointing out the obvious and some cases not so obvious successes and challenges.  So, you know, as you look at VMworld, we're now been complimentary on some of the moves certainly on the technology side that you guys have made. And then we've, again, we've talked about this many times on theCUBE. So completeness of vision, check. Okay, there's still some Michael Dell issues but Dave talks about that. So good vision, complete, executed, business performance is there. But as you talk about SaaS and subscription, your ability to execute is going to be a key variable in things like the Gartner Magic Quadrant for the areas you're competing in in multicloud. Talk about how you guys are set up financially to support that personnel. What is your organization going to do? Can you share your vision of how you're going to be able to execute customer success programs as this uncertainty around multicloud continues to become reality and things are changing. Yeah, I think a couple of things. Firstly, you know, to be absolutely candid, you know, the pace at which the customers are going to the new multicloud models is faster now than it was nine months ago. We just discussed that. Okay, so I wouldn't, I would be misrepresenting if I said we always were ready for this kind of a pace. We are also adjusting and innovating at this stage as fast as possible. The good news is that we were headed in the right direction. Okay, if we were headed in the wrong direction, it would have been much, much harder. Okay. Secondly, I think there is a very strong leadership team. The leadership team, I mean, at the end of the day, it's vision, leadership team, investment, the three key components, and then of course, diligence to execute that comes in for the execution. To me, vision and the direction was always very, very strong. It motivated me to join VMware for this important mission and many other executives. Second, the leadership team is as strong as it could get. The core team is extremely strong. We have strong leadership team, leadership from Pat, Michael of course, as well as Sanjay, Raghu, Rajiv. Everyone provides strong leadership. And then third, you asked about sort of the financial element. You know, the company continues to perform quite well, right? We have core businesses that become critical for customers to use as technologies to enable them to come out of this sort of economic issue we are facing and they're facing. So as a result, financially, we're in a good position to be able to invest back into the business. And secondly, we have made now, we've always, always been extremely strong on the technology front, okay? Now with Sanjay and Pat sort of saying that we are going to be extremely strong in terms of customer experience front because the world of subscription, the world of cloud, the world of this SaaS requires not just great technology but also great customer experience. So we're seeing tremendous continued sort of support financially in terms of investing into the customer experience from both getting the right set of people offerings as well as technology. So I believe we have all three things. Having said that, you know, some of these things that we are investing in they need a lot of work. And while I'm proud of what we have accomplished I truly believe, you know, the best is yet to come and the right investments that we are making are going to continue to sort of enhance our offerings both through people as well as technology but there's work to be done. You know, it's all about, you know, having the consumability of the technology to the value proposition of VMware and also as a company being open and easy to work with and consumable that way. So I think this is a great time. Certainly product-wise, business-wise, you guys do extremely well. Congratulations on your new role in the senior leadership as the chief customer officer of VMware. We'll be following the stories of your customers. So I really appreciate you taking the time. Thank you. Thank you so much, John. Excited to be back at VMware. Great to have you back on the queue. VMworld coverage of 2020 virtual. I'm John Furrier, this is the host of theCUBE virtual. Check us out at cube.net and also our new CUBE 365 where it's our new modern application for virtual events. Of course, we want to continue to tell the most important stories and cover all the key people making it happen. Submit, thank you for coming on. This is theCUBE. Thanks for watching.