What kind of karate is in Cobra Kai part 3? Just when you thought we couldn't rehash the topic enough We find out new ways to geek out about it Now I do want to say two things before we start the first being that this video is the third in the series And I'm not going to rehash the debate in my previous two videos in which we sit out to determine What style of martial arts do the Cobra Kai Miyagi do dojo's practice? I delivered my analysis in the first one and we got tremendous feedback from viewers and in the second video I returned to that analysis while taking suggestions in the consideration You may want to go check out those two episodes first before going forward and I've listed them below in the description The other thing I would like to mention is that this video might contain some minor spoilers If you have not seen Cobra Kai on YouTube premium and if you haven't go do that right now and then come back There are two seasons currently available both are fantastic and worthy follow-ups of the original films If you'd like the karate kid and the show is right up your alley and that's a alley with an EY In the first two videos I had determined that Cobra Kai was depicted as some version of Tonksudo and that Miyagi do karate was based on the Okinawan art of Gojiru I'm not going to list all the supporting clues again But I will say that both of these seem to have been confirmed in the recent interview William Zabka who plays Johnny Lawrence was asked what style of martial arts were in the film and he said that he was Trained by Pat Johnson who was also the referee in the film in the style of Tonksudo And that Ralph Macho was trained in the Okinawan art of soft style defensive style I think he was intended to say hard soft style, which is the literal translation of Gojiru And if that isn't enough then we see a shot in Cobra Kai season 2 in which Daniel is hanging up a picture on the walls of Miyagi Do and he hangs up a picture of Chojin Miyagi who is the founder of Gojiru That's pretty definitive if you ask me now I got a lot of great suggestions and input from many of you and you provided awesome observations Now the truth of the matter is while the in-world arts might have been Tonksudo and Gojiru We do have to take into account that this is a film and creative liberties are usually taken There are likely many influences in the stunts and choreography of the films and even more so in the Cobra Kai show as we can see a Dynamic mix of arts now in the previous video I asked viewers for help with two questions the first was helping identify the photographs in the Cobra Kai dojo who they were of and Second what type of kata Terry Silver was practicing in Karate Kid part 3? Now at the time I was hoping it would confirm the Korean art of Tonksudo In reality the truth was much simpler, but still pretty close The Karate Kid filmed the Cobra Kai dojo scenes at a real school at the time Jun Chong's Taekwondo in North Hollywood Now this was a functioning dojang So it's very likely that the studio left much of the set decoration in place and in fact within an hour of the last Video posting viewers identified the first set of photographs by the door as they are of Jun Chong himself There is no question that these are the same photos Now the picture above the mirror wasn't as clear I got many great suggestions But I was unable to find any online photo that seemed to match and honestly it's pretty blurry So unless somebody involved in that dojo or the making of the film is watching We're just gonna have to keep speculating while Jun Chong's Taekwondo was still running today It is no longer in that same location and in fact seems to have grown in size And so a big congratulations to them for keeping a successful school running for so long Now as for the kata that Terry Silver was performing the general consensus seems to be that it wasn't an official kata But rather an impromptu or improvised workout, which makes pretty sense So unless anyone can pinpoint anything specific we're just pretty much gonna go with that So with all that being said I thought it might be fun to take a look at some of the other characters and cast members and touch upon some of the arts that they might know Either previous to the films or something they picked up afterward Ironically the two actors that didn't have any martial arts experience at all are Ralph Machio and Pat Merida With Merida's character supposedly being the best martial artist in the entire series thus far Nevertheless, Ralph Machio stands as a figurehead. He was relatable and inspired thousands of kids including myself to join the martial arts The Pat Merida stunt work was performed by she thought are you a master Fumio de Mura Who was also said to be a partial inspiration for the character But fun fact though Pat Merida left his own legacy in the series as he personally designed the bonsai tree logo that stands to represent Miyagi Okrate Fumio de Mura began training in the martial arts at the age of nine and holds a ninth Don rank in Shitoru He has written many books including this one on the side I picked up several years ago and he's appeared in several films including the documentary on himself from 2015 entitled The Real Miyagi to this day He is still a highly respected figure in the martial arts world and I've included a list of some of his works below in the description Now we also previously mentioned Pat Johnson as the referee in the film And he was also the lead choreographer of not just a karate kid But multiple films including Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Mortal Kombat Mr. Johnson is a ninth Don in Tongsudo and he has an extensive history of martial arts including training under Chuck Norris He is heavily respected in the art and he is currently serving as the head of the National Tongsudo Congress Fun fact one of Mr. Johnson students was actor Steve McQueen father of actor Chad McQueen Who we all know as Dutch in the karate kid now I feel safe in assuming that I'm not the only one who noticed they stand out participant in the All Valley karate championship tournament Even as a child I could tell that Daryl Vidal was a real-life martial artist His moves were just too fast and too crisp to not be he could be seen in the first film plowing through his Way through Cobra Kai students until falling to Johnny in the semifinals although truth be told I believe he would have really won that match in real life Mr. Vidal is an accomplished martial artist and he holds a 10th Don in Kempo and runs Vidal Kempo in California He also has experience training in and teaching Wing Chung and Filipino stick fighting He leaves his legacy in the karate kid not only as a tournament participant But also contributed to the stunt work in choreography and that's him performing the crane kick on the beach dump Still an incredible artist to this day. You can find clips of him fighting on YouTube I'll be blunt this guy's a badass and if you're watching Mr. Vidal We all know who really that trophy belongs to now as we go through the cast members of both movies and the show There are several other actors who have martial arts experience on and off set the first William Zabka Johnny Lawrence himself while he didn't have any prior karate experience before the film He was bitten by the bug and he continued training in Tongsudo afterward and honestly it shows in the Cobra Kai show you can see he still has great form and flexibility Then we have Martin Cove who plays the villainous Sensei John Crease one of my favorite bad guys of the 80s He brings a serious weight and respect to the role and while we see him get his at the hands of Miyagi twice It is a shame He didn't have more combat roles in the films as Mr. Cove himself has personal experience in Kendo Okinawante and Tiger Kempo looking past John Crease We will find Terry Silver close behind him played brilliantly by Thomas E and Griffith Terry Silver is the one behind the maniacal revenge plot of the third film Mr. Griffith holds a black belt in Kempo karate and studied taekwondo since childhood and that isn't surprising as his techniques in the film are Sharp and in my personal opinion. He's the one character that seemed like a possible challenge to Miyagi Almost and speaking of villains who can forget Mike Barnes the crazy bully from the third movie played awesomely by Sean Canaan Mike Barnes Kind of is a little bit of a hard character to pin in terms of the in-world art because we're not really given a lot of his backstory Or really any of his backstory He was a hired hand. He wasn't the Cobra Kai student that came up through the ranks So the movie doesn't really give us any hints as to what art Mike Barnes might have learned But in real life actor Sean Canaan studied boxing before switching over to kickboxing and shodokan karate Now when he started doing the film He obviously worked with the Sun coordinators Pat Johnson and Shito Ryu master Fumio Demura So after the film he continued training in both arts and also kind of an interesting fact is he beat out two other martial arts for The role of Mike Barnes. It's gotta be the intensity. He brings a serious Intensity to this role like to the point of being crazy and apparently during auditions when they brought him in to do lines with Rothmacho He bullied Rothmacho in the audition and put him in the corner and the cast and the directors realized Yeah, hey, this is the guy because he's getting the effect that we need and also a fun fact He got seriously injured during the making of this film in the scene where they all fighting Miyagi in a dojo He comes lying through the front doors They performed at stunt many times He did himself and he landed upwards of like 20 times on the floor doing the stunt But what nobody realized was on one of those landings He actually ruptured something he tore a muscle line or something in his body and he was bleeding internally and didn't know it So he had to have emergency surgery and he almost died from it And they were going to continue the film without him with a stunt double and he insisted. No, let me do it Let me do it. He worked hard. He trained he got back into it because he was so intense in this role He fought so hard He was a karate kid fan from watching the first two movies that he dedicated himself to it So he worked his way up and he became an awesome villain And even his little tirade at the end of the film when he's going Daniel to get up That was all ad-lib that wasn't scripted. So what an awesome performance by this guy Mike Barnes is awesome Ron Thomas Ron Thomas plays Bobby Brown the only cobra in the first film that showed Daniel any sympathy He knew Daniel didn't quite deserve the beatings that Johnny gave him and you can see it on his face multiple times And he even confronts Johnny about it. Now in real life. Mr. Thomas is a great motivational speaker Author and an accomplished martial artist as listed on his website his 30 year history of credits include two-time world champion five-time international self-defense champion six-degree black belt United States Jiu-Jitsu team trainer founder and Sensei of the world-class training centers in Los Angeles national rank examiner for the United States Jiu-Jitsu Association and Personal coach for multiple national and world champions He was one of the few actors going into the film with real martial arts experience And he was supposedly allowed to choreograph his own fights now. We move on to the young cast of cover Kai So this experience here is limited, but it's kind of worth looking into first We have show a little merry duena who plays Miguel and for all intents purposes is the new karate kid His experience coming to the show was limited saying that he did study about a year of karate as a child But working in Cobra Kai has renewed his interest in the martial arts And he's shown a lot of early skill and hopefully he'll follow the path of William Zabka and continue training after his term in the show Next we have Miguel's rival Robbie played by Tanner Buchanan His story is very similar having studied Taekwondo at a young age roughly between ages 10 and 12 and He was only a few belts away from black belt before quitting due to a heavy schedule He is one of the standout characters in my opinion on the show because he's demonstrating a lot of solid techniques And it really wasn't surprising to find out that he had prior combat experience Even Jacob Bertrand lip transformed into Hawk comes to the table with some experience He had prior training in karate and grappling which seems to come natural to him in the show He's just one of these great young cast members and actors that have so much martial arts potential that they really hope they continue On this path and I'm really anxious to see where they go in the future with it What kind of skill they can develop as we get into the all-valley tournament of season one We have to acknowledge Taylor and chat who plays Xander stone Now, I don't think anyone here is surprised to hear that he has real-life training And he holds a black belt in Taekwondo and has some significant capoeira experience both of them. He showcases in the show Now speaking of capoeira. I wasn't quite able to identify this actor I failed the IMDb, but there's no way he was able to take on the little Bert without having significant experience mm-hmm and Keeping in tradition with the head referee We have hero Kota who plays the new ref of the tournament and just like mr. Johnson leads the stunt working choreography on the show Now hero Kota is the son of Sokei Hiroyuki Kota Founder of us Yoshukai karate, which traces its roots back to Japanese art of Chitoru Okay, so who is the real karate kid?  Is it Daniel? Is it Johnny? No, actually it's screenwriter Robert Mark Kamen Mr. Kamen conceptualized and wrote the script for the karate kid and it said that he loosely based off his own experiences He had a martial arts background himself and when he was writing the film He based the character of John Crease collectively on two instructors He met early in his training a tough former Marine who had become a karate instructor and another sensei who encouraged dirty fighting Disappointed with the attitudes mr. Kamen turned to the Okinawan art of Gojiru and based Mr Miyagi office real life sensei They took a Yagi who also happened to be a direct student of Gojiru founder Chojin Miyagi So I think that settles that so I'm asking you guys for a little bit of homework There was one system I was trying to identify and wasn't having much luck The first opponent that Daniel faces in the tournament has this red school or art logo on his back And you can spot the same emblem on others in the background throughout the tournament So I'm really unfamiliar with his fighting stance as well And I was kind of curious if any of you out there knew what the symbol was whether it was an art or school Or had any idea what this guy might practice, you know, we're not presented with a lot of information So I'm kind of curious to know what you guys think so that does it for this episode Is there anyone I missed I would absolutely love to hear any observations you have on the film perhaps other tournament participants Thank you so much for watching Please subscribe and please be sure to click on the bell icon below and I have listed in the description below links to books by both Fumio de Murra and Ron Thomas and I encourage you to check them both out Also, please be sure to support us on patreon, you know the more supporters we get I want to thank those who have supported this so far you guys have been amazing and awesome We can only do this because of you guys so the more we all get involved the more we can do Thank you so much everyone


I was the head coach of the Punahou Boys Varsity Tennis Team for 22 years, and we were fortunate to win 22 consecutive state championships. My book Beyond the Lines is about leadership, creating a superior culture of excellence, and finding greatness, which is what this show is all about. My special guest today is the highly respected leader of our University of Hawaii Athletic programs. He is David Matlin, and today we are going beyond sports. Hey, David, good to see you. Hello, Rusty. Great seeing you too. Thrilled to be on the show today. Now, David, can you give us the latest updates with the coronavirus situations with your athletic programs? Yeah, I definitely can update you and I can also promise you in about 15 minutes after your update to things will have changed probably. But on the big picture, we're working with our conferences, the NCA, also lead one, which is all the FBS schools, working on protocols for safe return and competition. Obviously, we've had a relook at our budgets because there's been a financial impact. We're doing that with two core values in mind. The first one is health and safety of our student athletes, our coaches, our staff, our university community and our fans. That's paramount. And secondly, our second core value that we measure every decision we make against is to continue scholarship and education of our student athletes and to keep our staff working productively. So we're focused on all those things. Obviously, we have to do this, steward our money well to make these things happen. And obviously, we want to still compete at a high level, but we have to take care of those first two things first. Yeah, that makes sense. And David, if we go back some years, I know you graduated from the University of Michigan. And how was the experience of being in that University of Michigan stadium, watching those Wolverine football games? It was a pretty phenomenal experience. I actually started going to Michigan football games. I moved to Michigan when I was about six years old. My dad started taking me in 1971. We used to go to one or two games before I even went to college there. It was phenomenal. I mean, you have 100,000 people, the biggest crowd in the country. Great fans coming from all around the Midwest area. Just great energy and lots of fun. I mean, I'll go back to the Bolsheviker days, which was just amazing ambiance there. Yeah, I can imagine. I would watch it on TV with Jim Harbaugh as the quarterback. So when did you end up coming to Hawaii? Well, I was born in Honolulu. I lived here for two weeks. And then my dad was the general manager of the Hawaii Islanders, that team. Then we went to Vancouver, Seattle, Milwaukee, two places in Michigan. And I was a junior in college, and I met my future wife, who's from Honolulu. And we realized we were born in the same hospital, had the same delivery in doctor and our parents lived about a half mile from each other. Within about two years, I had proposed and we were already married. And then we moved to Houston, where I worked in Houston Astros for six years. And then like local girls, she wanted to come home. So we moved back here in 1993, really without jobs. And if I would have known how hard it was going to be, I might not have done it, but I'm really glad we did. Wow. And so you mentioned your wife and then you have your two kids, right? So tell me about them. All right, that's a great photo. You know, my wife Dana, we've been married 31 years. As I mentioned, we met at University of Michigan. She's an amazing partner and I don't know how I would get through a day without her. My oldest daughter is Kisa, who's a graduate from University of Notre Dame, which is tough for a Michigan guy to say, as well as she got her master's from SMU. She's in the field of education, her passion is environmental science. And my son Ross just graduated from USC's film school. And he's actually planning on doing the Peace Corps in Guatemala, but that's on a little bit of hold right now. So he's been on doing that for a few years, but obviously they're my pride and joy. And you see our dog there now, that makes the map look five. Yeah, so cute. Now, David, did you read my first book? And I want to know about what you, if you did and what you thought about it. Yeah, I definitely did. And what I got to kick out is, you had your four P's, people, purpose, process, and performance. Well, I always had three P's, passion, persistence, and purpose. But now I have four P's because people's got to be there. And one thing I learned from my dad is it's all about people. So it resonated with me. And what I really liked, and it was just a lot of your headliner quotes at the very beginning, just how that really set it up for the whole chapter. Just some great leadership tools. And frankly, it's helped me to continue to develop where I am as a leader and to pick up some tools to go forward. Well, those P's, those are all necessary. And I like your P's as well. And David, I know you became athletic director in 2015. What kind of culture did you want to establish when you became athletic director for your athletic department? Well, what I would say, it's really a winning with integrity culture. And what that really means, it's not just winning on the field of player, on the field of competition. Obviously, we're competitive. We like to win. We like to win. I think there's value in striving for excellence. But it's winning in the classroom. It's winning in the community. It's supporting each other. It's really, because if you don't win with integrity, it's really not winning. And what we're trying to do is develop young men and women who are going to be future leaders and great fathers and mothers and friends. Coaches can have an amazing impact on that. And as administrators, our job is really to equip and enable both coaches and student athletes. Yeah, it's all about integrity. And, David, I know that Spectrum Sports is really stepping up to support University of Hawaii athletics. And they had hired me to do some color commentary with Scott Robbs right there, who is just an absolute amazing guy. I mean, he has a special gift of doing commentary. And what are your thoughts about how awesome it is, how they added tennis and water polo to the lineup? That was huge. I mean, we had started discussions about covering some of our Olympic sports and sports that might not get as much notoriety. And they stepped up right away. And frankly, they found it to be really good programming. I mean, the water polo matches were great. That's a fast-moving sport. I think they're planning on doing more of it. And tennis worked out real well. Plus, we have some real good tennis teams. And you're right about Scott. I mean, Scott is, it's interesting. My dad, when he was such a small world, when my dad was the general manager of the Hawaiian Islanders, he actually hired Don Robbs, I think as the PA announcer back in the early 60s. So Scott does a phenomenal job. He's probably one of the most versatile people that I've ever worked with in that business. He can do it all. What are your thoughts about your tennis coaches, Joelle for the men and June for the women? Well, this was Joelle's first year. She did a phenomenal job. Unfortunately, it got cut short right when they were starting to get their own. I mean, he has some really good team. And I really enjoy when I, you know, I meet with the, before I hire a coach, the one thing I do for every coach job, I meet with the team and I ask them, I don't ask them who a coach they want to hire. They might tell me that. But I ask them, what characteristics are they looking for in a coach? From their perspective. And I, a lot of times I take anywhere from three to four pages of notes. Once they get going, it's pretty amazing. And I just found our, both of our tennis team student athletes are amazing. And both Joelle and June have done an amazing job. I mean, June for many years. And I think our tennis future looks very bright. Yeah, I totally agree with you. And David, what do you look for when you're hiring head coaches? You know, it's, it's pretty simple in some ways. It really is about character. I mean, and it's character. Now you got to define it. And, you know, you got to define it. And you got, you have to do a lot of research. You have to talk to a lot of people. But it's, because a lot of people say, well, you got to hire the best coach.  They might have some different philosophies, some different theories and different schemes, but it really is about character and work ethic. And, you know, and one thing I've been fortunate to be in this business for a while where there's a lot of people you can call to find out how they, how they worked in different situations.  Now those things factor in, but to me, those are more like the tie breakers. You, in order to be even considered, you have to have those first two things. I agree with you. And what are your goals for the UH athletics nowadays? Yeah, well, you know, the goals really haven't changed. Our goals are, you know, maybe three-fold. Maybe I'll give you a fourth reason, the fourth thing. But, you know, it's obviously it's to educate young men and women. I'm excited that we had our highest Q and GPA in the fall at 3.13. That's our average for all of our students for the whole time they've been there. Our semesters are always over 3.0. We've started keeping stats on these, I think, 20 years ago. So great support from our academic support, Dr. Canberra and our counselors do a great job. And frankly, it's a lot of it's our coaches bringing the right people in and focusing on academics. Obviously, athletically, we want to provide great sportsmanship and we want to win. One metric we look at is the Learfield Cup standings. Last year, we were 65 out of about 350. It was our highest ranking in 10 years, I believe. And out of the non-power five schools, we were 10th out of 290. And that's basically how you do an NCAA tournament performance. The disappointing thing is this year, we were trending to be higher than last year to get more Learfield Cup standing points than last year. But obviously, our season was cut short. David, what are some of the biggest challenges you deal with as AD? Well, you know, the resource management. I mean, we have to be great stewards of our resources. I mean, one thing I know is we do a pretty good job with the resources we have. I mean, you know, if a coach comes and says, you know, we can't win if we don't have this, I'll say, well, you know, we are winning. It doesn't mean we don't want to do better. It doesn't mean we don't want more. But we have to be very fiscally responsible. We have to make some tough choices and we really have to focus on what are the needs versus the wants.  And we've upped our game when it comes to nutrition. And we've upped our game when it comes to the academic support. And even our facilities, they were in the last five years, we've had great improvement. We're very blessed that the legislature has, you know, invested in our facilities and we've got the support of the university. We've got incredible gym one and gym two practice facilities. Our tennis courts are getting repaved as we speak right now. So we're getting a new sound system to Sandwich Air Center. So we have a lot of those projects that we're working on. But the challenge is really just making the decisions about where you're going to invest your time and your resources. And it's all about people. Well, I like hearing that the tennis courts are getting resurfaced. Yeah, it's such a beautiful tennis facility that you have there. I mean, it needs to stay at that high level. But yeah, I like what you said about having to try to be resourceful.  And I'll see you at all of them at the same time, basically. How do you do it? Yeah, well, you do it because you've got a great team and a great family behind you and a supportive administration at the University of Hawaii. And I love going.  It's like, well, that's the best part of the job going to the event. So a lot of times I don't stay for the whole event, but I'll I'll be at a volleyball match. I'll go over to baseball, stop by volleyball, and I'll stop by the tennis match also. So to me, that's the best part to watch student athletes, you know, perform at a high level and watch their passion and action. I mean, that's that's inspiring to me. I frankly go to events. I go to events for me because it inspires me, you know, to get up the next morning early and come back and hit and hit and hit, you know, hit it hard to continue to try to get better, a little better each day. So, David, let's talk about football now. You hired coach Todd Graham, and I had him on the show a couple months ago. He is just an absolutely amazing guy. Why? Why did you hire him over everybody else? Yeah. You know, we had amazing people that are interested in the program. I mean, the program is, you know, Nick brought the program forward. We've been in three bowl games in four years. Hawaii is a special place. So the candidates were pretty impressive. Todd, when we met with Todd, it was it was in an airport in LA. Gosh, he's got incredible energy and passion. And frankly, I probably called 50 to 75 people getting learning about him. And I had some people that were good friends of mine that were Rice and Arizona State places he's worked. But it really comes down to character and that he really does want to be a leader of young men. He cares about where these men are going to be in 10 years from now, not just about their performance now. He's not going to sacrifice their short term for their long term. So I would just say it's character and he gets the winning with integrity mantra that we want to represent at the University of Hawaii. Yeah. And he, you know, he has great principles and values and he has that superior culture of excellence and I'm just so excited to see what he's going to be able to do and how he's going to really help our student athletes. Let's talk about, let's talk some volleyball now. I mean, I had coach Charlie Wade on the show as well and I'm super excited for him that his seniors are coming back. What are your thoughts about that? Yeah, well, first of all, they're incredible student athletes. I mean, they're great students. I mean, one thing that a lot of people don't know about is Charlie's, the grade point average of our volleyball team is, you know, three, four or higher, the highest in the West and he gets an award the last few years for having great academics also.  You know, they were, have been competing for a national championship and this year could have been the year. So with them coming back next year, bringing back three All-Americans is obviously great, but they're all American people also. Yeah, I love that. I mean, it's that's that's the most important. But and then you also hired coach Robin Amo for women's volleyball and and they're, I mean, she's doing a great job. I mean, what are your thoughts about women's volleyball? Well, she, Robin's done an amazing job. She's hired great coaches in Angelica and Kalail. She's got a great team. She recruits well. The thing about Robin is she cares. She cares so, so much. Volleyball has made a big impact in her life and she wants to share that with others.   I mean, she's just an amazing coach and she's really proven that she can bring great student athletes in here and focus on the academics and the year they had last year was an amazing year.  No, no question. Just thrilled with, you know, and so much of it is, you know, the people they hire Angelica and Kalail, they do an incredible job also. But yeah, but Robin, you know, Robin, she cares.  Yeah, it's empathy for sure. And David, the UH swimming and diving teams are having incredible success as well. Can you tell me more about that? Well, so proud of our swimming team. They obviously do a great job academically. We had a coach that I hired four years ago, Van Schemel, who won, you know, back-to-back championships and last year they won the men and women's this year. He, Stanford hired him. And so we hired his assistant, Elia, who continued the tradition of great grades and they won a men's championship and a women's championship. And they were poised to have one of our best years in the NCAAs in decades, if not of all time. Great student athletes are swimmers. You talk about a dedicated bunch. I mean, these are people who get up really early in the morning and just go for it each and every day and amazing student athletes.  I mean, I don't know how they do that, but they do it. And what are your thoughts about men's basketball? Coach Aaron Ganot and his team? Excited about his team. We should be announcing our schedule pretty soon, which has worked out. It'll be one of our best schedules in quite a long time. He has some great recruits coming in. Or Iran, I mean, here's what you can say about Iran. When he came here, our APR, that's our academic progress rate that the NCAA measures. It was at 937, which means that if we lost one more, if we lost one more point, we'd be on, we might not be eligible for post season, including conference championships. He's gotten 2,000s in the last two years and he's doing it while competing. He's doing it the right way. He's got a great coaching staff and frankly, his players, they get better. So looking forward to this season of men's basketball. And I know we have a lot of new athletes coming in. No, that's so exciting. I'm so happy for them. And talk to me a little bit about the women's basketball program as well. You know, the one thing I'll tell you about Laura, Laura Beaman's team, every year they get better at the end of the year.  Laura cares about these young women. Laura is also a leader in the department. I mean, she helps in so many different ways, but this year they were trending and they won their first conference, big West championship game. And then the season got canceled. They were trending to possibly make the NCAAs, if not the NIT. And like I said, when you look at the success she's had since she's been here, it's pretty phenomenal. And what I really admire about a coach is when you see a team every year get better at the end of the year when they started. To me, that's that solid coaching. David, we, I mean, we're so lucky that we have such a beautiful stand sheriff center. I mean, that has to attract so many student athletes that wanna come and play basketball and volleyball. Is that true? There's no question. We're blessed by the stand sheriff center. It's one of the best arenas in the West Coast. And it is phenomenal. I mean, and when you get 10,000 people in there for a men's volleyball game or a basketball game or a woman's volleyball game, it is a great home field, a core advantage. But it's a first class facility and you gotta get rich sheriff and his crew. It's 25 years old and it is in phenomenal shape. And to me, the stand sheriff center, I never met Stan, but I know his son very well. It's very dear to me because my first job at UH, my first office was in the ticket office at the stand sheriff center. So I used to go there every day for five years. And, you know, I mean, that facility, frankly, without that, I probably wouldn't have gotten that job because that's when we needed to have more ticketing staff at the time. Yeah, you're right. You know, rich sheriff is one of my longtime close friends and what he's done, you know, with his staff over these decades.  And, you know, what's the latest updates with the Aloha Stadium situation that you can share? Yeah, well, right now the most recent information is that they're still trending for 2023. We are involved in, you know, in the discussions where we've given our thoughts. I mean, Coach Todd Graham met with them also. He had actually some really good thoughts because he was at Tulsa and some other facilities that came online. So he had that coach's eye. We're gonna be more involved as we go closer with the consultants. You know, that can be a game changer for us as far as for the student athletes, but also for our fans. Because, I mean, Scott Chan and his crew do a great job at Aloha Stadium, but they're limited by, you know, a stadium that was built in the 70s where I think we'll provide a lot more fan experience with a new facility and a better economic model also.   So yeah, that's, and he's really, you know, he pays attention to those details and he was able to share some things. And frankly, we're able to incorporate some of those into our requests and so will the stadium. Now, you know, earlier we talked about, you know, being at University of Michigan in that stadium and then you're trying to enhance the fan experience of the new Aloha Stadium.  I mean, every game. How can we get UH to that level where we can start selling out some of these UH events?  I mean, our volleyball is as good as it gets, but at Aloha Stadium, a lot of it, we have to figure out how to attract millennials, how to attract the next generation. We haven't done as good a job at that. So we have to focus on that. We came up with a ticketing package this year called the H-Pass, which gave you season tickets for all events that you pay monthly for. Frankly, our marketing team, I want to brag on them. They did an incredible job. They won a national marketing award for season ticket packages by our H-Pass. Our goal was to sell 100 of them, we sold 505, but we need to look at what matters to this group. Wifi matters, events at the event themselves. So, you know, obviously your food and beverage menus, the parking lot experience, the ambiance from when you come into the stadium until you leave all matters. And I really believe with the new stadium, a lot of these things will be able to be incorporated. That can help us. But at the end of the day, we need to do better. We need to work harder. And we need to not be afraid to fail. If something doesn't work, we just evaluate it and then we try something else. Well, I like your thoughts and your insights right there.  And David, you know, a lot of people, when they see you at these sporting events, they know who you are, they recognize you, but they might not know all of the things that you do behind the scenes. Can you share with me about some of the things that you deal with behind the scenes that a lot of those people don't know about? Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes the jobs are overwhelming to me. There's so much work you're actually doing, even with your conferences and with your fellow ADs. I mean, scheduling events is, and I have a lot of help with that, but especially in the football area, is a lot of art, more art than science. It's really, you know, when you're doing your best is you're spending more time with student athletes. I mean, I do get the chance to meet with student athletes sometimes for positive things and sometimes for some self-correction. I don't believe in discipline for punishment. I believe in discipline for correction. Overall, we have an amazing student-athletes, but a lot of it is just keeping up with the trends. There's a lot of reading in this job. Talking to your peers, reading books, a lot of training we do for our coaches as well as our team on how to be a healthier and smarter team, and there's just a lot of details. I mean, I try to stay out of the weeds. I've got great people that help me do that. One thing that I struggle with is sometimes I get a little too far into the weeds.  That's good that you told your staff to let you know about that. Well, you have to empower people. I mean, this is not... ADs, obviously you're the leader and you need to set the tone, but so much about this is empowerment. The people on our staff and our team, all of our employees are so critical to our success. And really, at every all staff meeting, I mentioned two things that every when we have our whole staff together. First came from Pastor Wayne Cordero and it's about trying to get 1% better a day or do one thing better each day. If you can do that, the end of the year, you're done 365 things better or you're three and a half times better also. So you focus on that. And the other thing is so often, a lot of times people try to catch people doing things wrong. I want us to catch people doing things right and praise them and create that type of culture. And it's important that our whole staff that we encourage each other. Because as you do that, that's how I think you change department and you change the world a little. David, I want to thank you for taking time in your schedule to be on the show today. I mean, I can see why the UH Athletic Programs are headed in the right direction under your leadership and really about character and culture. And it's all about the student athletes, like you said, and having the coaches really understand that as well. Yeah, well, thank you. Thanks for the opportunity. You know, it's a blessing. As I tell our student athletes when we're recruiting trips is that you're not just playing for your team or the University of Hawaii, you're playing for the whole state. And that's an incredible responsibility and a great opportunity for them and all of us to be Hawaii's team. So we're blessed to represent the entire state of Hawaii. And you are too. Thank you, David. Thanks, Aloha. And thank you for watching Beyond the Lines on Think Tech Hawaii. For more information, please visit RustyKomori.com and my books are available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I hope that David and I will inspire you to create your own superior culture of excellence and to find your greatness and help others find theirs. Aloha.


Hello, it's Rachel Lawson here again from the Drupal Association, with yet another of our candidate chat series with candidates for the Drupal Association Board Elections for 2020. And today I'm introducing Alejandro Moreno Lopez. Good morning, Alex. How are you doing? Good morning, Rachel, and I'm doing really well. Yes, thank you. How are you? Yeah, really good. Yeah, cat complain. Apart from my iPad being really strange today, so you'll see how this goes. So we've both been doing lots of various things in Drupal for a while now. You tell me an interesting story about how we met and I'm now quite scared to ask. Oh, it's something that you love to do. And it's something that I don't know why I was thinking other than it came to my memory. The first time we talked to each other, it was around five years ago, right? And it was because I was a point in my life where I was spending like four hours per day commuting, going to London West at BBC. I was thinking there must be a better way to do this. And somehow I found your profile on Twitter and you were doing all these amazing trips on your motorbike. And I used to love motorbikes. That's that when I moved to UK, I had to send my motorbike back in Spain and never thought about getting one. But at that point it's like, you know, I could save a couple of hours and get a motorbike and you were riding this amazing XR Idris. I was looking at that one and that's why I started communication with you, like, how is this bike? Is it good for commuting? And I remember your answer, like, it's very hot, you know?  It would certainly be a hell of a ride. I'll give you that into London, my goodness. It's crazy. It's not that I regret it. I still love motorbikes. But going to central London is horrible. It's like, yeah, riding next to huge trucks and it's a scary, terrifying experience. Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that every day. Okay, so it's interesting you say you've been around five years and, you know, you've met lots of people and it's all about community. So what can you tell me about not just the Drupal community it is, but how we grow community? What is it that we do to build new community? Yeah, everyone is talking about how amazing is the community and how amazing is meeting people and all of that. And I totally get that and I totally agree, right? And it's what makes working in technology worth going to Drupal camps, Drupal cons to any other events related to technology. And meeting the people behind the technology and meeting possible partners, customers, friends. But community is much more about, much more than that, right? If you think about it, without community there wouldn't be even technology. There are things like Drupal, of course, but things like Java or PHP or God's be the death. They are that amazing technologies that so many people are using because there is a huge amount of people behind the scenes sharing what they are doing just for the sake of sharing, right? And for the sake of learning and getting feedback. The Drupal community is of course all these things about meeting everyone and keeping contract and making synergies, but it's also what is the glue that keeps our world together, right? Our technologies and what makes a company, what makes our technology successful. So you talked there a lot about bringing success, you talked about all the various different things that are in a community. So we've got both companies and individuals and the glue, which is an interesting way of putting it. But we need to be able to reach out. We need to be able to continue to reach out beyond the edges of our community. And advocate for Drupal and talk about Drupal in different places. What can you tell me about advocating for Drupal and things that you would like us to be doing? So I think when Drupal 8 took the direction that took and a lot of people criticized, like always there is going to be people happy and people are happy about that slide, right? And you have to try to find the middle point. But the amazing thing that Drupal 8 started is it started as synergy. Everyone was talking about leaving the island and that started as synergy with symphony. Suddenly we were working closely with other community, which is the PHP or the... We've always been working with the PHP community, of course, but we were doing it in our own way, right? Suddenly we are more open, we are more adopting good practices from others and sharing as well our good practices. And sharing our work at the end, open source is not just about building your own framework or your own thing, but as well helping each other, not just in your small island, but as well helping on the symphony community, for example. So I would love to see that more happening and not just on the Drupal or in the development world, right? At the end, if you see, I'm focusing a lot on the technology side because I've been so well-developed for two decades, that's a long time. But what I've been more inclined recently or more is about the human part of everything, right? And I think it was Adam or Mike, one of the candidates that we're talking exactly about going out and reach other communities as well, going to world plus communities, trying to make more synergies, going to even places where technology is not that core of what they are doing, like marketing communities, right? The SEO and PPC communities where they talk a lot about their own world or their own solutions, but where we can find a lot of synergies on Drupal, there is this amazing tool. And this is what you are trying to solve. You could put these two together. And if you go to these places, you discover that a lot of people, because we normally go to Drupal Cores, Drupal Cams, we preach between us, right? We think that Drupal is the core of the universe, but we go outside and it's like, what is that thing about Drupal? I have this one minute pitch or 30 seconds pitch elevator to try to explain what I do and what is Drupal, right? So that's what we should be doing. Ah, that's interesting, yeah. I wonder how many people in our community could describe Drupal and why it's important in one minute? Oh, I managed to find the right, but I'm still practicing, yeah, specifically for me. It would be interesting to see. It would be almost like an interesting idea to see a whole load of people for one minute having to explain why. That would be interesting. So you have, as you say, you mentioned some Cams and so on like that. Have you got any particular favorite memories from visiting maybe Drupal Cams or anything else that came up? Yeah, I was thinking that it's really difficult because every time you go to any event, be it Drupal Cams in London, be it Manchester, be it Drupal Cams, there's always something special, right? Because it's a different city. It's not always different people. That's also amazing because it's like living off the island. Sometimes it's good that it's a small island because just in a few events you end up meeting everyone, right? And I think we're meeting you on every single event I've been going that I don't go to a lot of them, but they always meet you. That's amazing. You end up making friends and making new friends. It's difficult to choose one. Probably the last Drupal Cams in Amsterdam. That was very special for me because Amsterdam is a city that I love. But also because the whole organization, the whole thing that happened, a lot of colleagues from work and customers as well. We managed to get some developers on a train, on a plane and come there. So it was really special. The best Drupal event that I've been in the last probably ever was this one that you see here. It's the Drupal Camp Spain. Oh, wonderful. Yes. That's a splash award, isn't it? It's a splash award because we did a surf during the whole week. And we got the key of the events and they gave me that. But it was amazing because they combined not just the technology side, but also going outside, go walking, go horse riding, do surf. Go out with people and enjoy the tapas and all of that. And the weather is amazing. Yeah, I see you've got the skateboard behind you. I have a skateboard in front of my house. I have it for decoration and everything like that. I still use it. And people look weird. This guy 40 something next to the guy is with a scooter. He's with three years old kids. Hey, I've got a skateboard. I've got a scooter now. I bought a little nine-bot scooter. It's good fun. Okay, so you're looking to be on our Drupal Association Board. It's a team of, I can't remember the now. Is it 12 or 13 people now? I can't even remember. Who all have different skills and bring different parties. Anything that you that you particularly think that you bring as a skill to that team? I think I'm discovering that after being so many years on the technical side of things, I'm starting to enjoy something, doing something different than that, right? You get the creative, you get the joy of creating something, but suddenly you discover the joy of enabling people, right?  Now I see things different. I see like doing this little push. It starts things. And when you see these things evolving, you're proud in there, right? And you get like, oh, look, we got together and we managed to do this as a team, not just as me doing that, but yeah, for example, we did with a swag shop. I think it started with a silly tweet about, you know, the communities, the Rupal community needs your help. Everyone is raising money. That's amazing, but I'm sure there must be other ways to find how we can help, right? And Will Huggins think it was, yeah, he worked a lot on this and we end up doing something that some people will like it, some people won't like it, but at the end it's about that. It's about trying to enable things, trying to push, trying to move forward. And the same as well for the Rupal England and Wales Association that you are part as well, that we are trying to do something. It's about, yeah, about trying to find where we can help, where we can enable other people as well to be part of something, right, to improve things. Yeah, absolutely. I remember because when yourself and Will and Ruth came to me and said, why is there no swag shop? And I'm like, I gave a load of reasons and then said, hey, well, if you can come up with a better way, then fantastic. And all credit to all three of you, you literally went away and came up with a whole basis for how a swag shop can work and Drupal.org slash swag. Now Will, it's in the menu, isn't it? It's in the give menu. Drupal swag is in there. And it's really easy. It literally makes money for the Drupal Association just by buying hacks and t-shirts and everything like that. But you made it happen. So thank you for that because it's a really interesting, interesting new model. And it has to be said, it was the first step, right? We were trying to find a solution to something which is there is a hole in the Drupal Association and we need to have some help. Some people propose, okay, we could do the shop. There are better ways. But this is just the first step. We are discovering that it works and we are discovering that the community is behind it. Once we have numbers, we can probably do a second step, maybe do something or maybe in Drupal, maybe in e-commerce, but it has to make sense as well. Because I remember the conversations with you, it was about the previous attempts. You were losing money. Even you were setting for filming the deliveries and all of that. It was making the association to lose money because you had to have people working on that and you had to pay. Yeah, but what you built is what you built, created zero risk for everyone, zero time as well. So yeah, that's really great. Yeah. Okay, well, thanks for that. Have you anything that you want to add on or anything particularly you want to say about your candidacy that people should hear? I think we have a lot of problems, not necessarily in Drupal, but in the open source, right? And we have this round table that we've done on Drupal and London, and we have another, the same table with different people in DrupalCon in Barcelona, remotely in Barcelona. So I think we need to open the conversation and be honest about, we are in an amazing time. Open source is super recognized, and open source is beating all the alternatives, but this is creating lots of problems as well. It's creating a stress. It's like a road that is starting to get a lot of cars, but that road needs to be maintained and the infrastructure on top of which we are riding or we are driving our cars is maintained by most of the time volunteers. So we need to find better ways to fix problems that this is creating, like burnout on people, right? Things like security, because, yeah, no one is, if there is someone maintaining packets, suddenly you have a huge security hole and that's going to be a lot of problems for a lot of companies that didn't even realize that they were using that package, that's all. So we need to keep pushing on things like that, on keeping us honest and trying to find more models. People may not be happy about some decisions in terms of now how you vote, but it's as well on, okay, maybe not everyone is happy. How do we find an alternative? How do we find solutions, right? We have to keep, yeah, the communication, we have to keep the conversation about that and diversity as well. Everyone is talking about diversity and everyone, at least myself, I thought it was about giving everyone more opportunities for everyone. And since our round table in Drupal Camp London, that opened my eyes because it's not just about giving more people opportunities. It's as well, of course, it's about that, but it's as well what these other diverse profiles bring to the community. Suddenly you are not talking about just developers, you're also talking about design or about people in marketing or people from different counties, right? Suddenly the ideas, all the things that they bring on table, they wouldn't be possible without them, right? So I think we need to keep pushing on those directions and try to, we have amazing communities. Open source is great, but we have to keep things like that, we have to keep pushing to make sure that we stay on track. Brilliant. Okay. Thank you, Alex, that was brilliant. We're very lucky this year. We've got 10 fantastic candidates and I'm going to be happy whoever wins. So all the very best of luck and we will find out soon. Thank you very much, it was great to talk to you and good luck to everyone.


Should Christians drink wine? Is it a sin? Or is it something that Christians probably ought to avoid whenever possible? Hey, smart Christians. There's one question that does come up from time to time That is dealing with alcohol or alcoholic consumption Should a person should a Christian be able to drink wine? If so under what context is it a sin? Well before we go to whether a Christian ought to drink wine one of the other questions that we also need to bring up is did Jesus actually drink wine himself now I'll start off by saying that no it is not a sin It is not a prohibition for Christians to drink wine It'd be it'd be kind of odd to think that a Christian should not believe this a believer should not drink wine when we do see certain passages where Jesus even turns Obviously where Jesus turns water into wine and second John to think to tend we see that Jesus turns water into wine And so it'd be kind of odd to think that it would be a sin if Jesus Created from water Turning water into wine would create the very thing that he would outlaw or prohibit That's just not in keeping with him and then also we look and see where Paul tells Timothy and first Timothy 523 he says Let's see says let's turn 22 do not be hasty in the laying on of hands nor take part in the sins of others Keep yourself pure, but then he says no longer drink only water But use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and for your frequent ailments One of the things that used to happen for us growing up in the in the Midwest And this was obviously in the sometime ago about 40 50 years ago in the 70s We would get a teaspoon or tablespoon of alcohol during the winter I Guess I don't know if it's actually true But our parents would think that maybe it would kind of help ward off Sickness and colds and things like that dealing with the cold winter weather So I don't know if there's any scientific truth to that But they would give us that for that reason kind of sell the stomach as well And so again, you could not say that it is a sin to say drinking wine Now is there different types of wine the different types of fermentation the different types of alcoholic content how strong something is well That's debatable because there is no real clear definition between What types of wine is it the hard strong stuff the Obviously that varies over time And how the process is done But the fact of the matter is a question is can a christian drink wine? Well, sure they can now The prohibition is not to be drunk going to effusions 5 8 paul says And do not get drunk with wine for it is debatering But be filled with the spirit now in this passage. He's he's contrasting the the self control the control aspect of of the spirit Versus not having control in being drunk with wine Don't do that now Is that to say that we should not drink wine? Well, no, he's just saying don't get drunk with wine. That's all So now the other question is going to be well, did jesus actually drink wine himself? We know that he turned water into wine But when we go and look at him during the Passover celebrations We don't see jesus actually drinking the wine at that at that time For example in and matthew 26 27 says and he took a cup and when he had given thanks He gave it to them saying drink of it All of you for this is the blood of the covenant Which is poured out for many for the sins for the forgiveness of sins And I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you In my father's kingdom now So we don't actually see him taking a drink, but Do we know for sure if jesus actually drank? Well part of the key is in what he just said Let's go back to what he says I tell you the truth that I will not drink again I'm artsy, which is again. I won't do it again meaning He's drank before as a matter of fact We see him comparing john The baptist with himself in luke 733 says for john the baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine And you say he has a demon Then he contrasts in verse 34 the son of man has come eating and drinking and you say look at him A glutton and a drunkard So yes, jesus drank wine Obviously was not the kind of wine to get drunk. Jesus did not have a a brown paper bag with a bottle inside That was not the point Some of this stuff was cultural But even today people will drink wine in certain cultures across across the world Not to get drunk not to be inebriated not to be just a drunkard and that was not who jesus was So can a christian drink wine sure now I myself. I don't drink wine I've never liked the taste of it never Just never done anything for me. And so for that reason because I don't like it I don't drink it But cannot get any other christian drink wine. Sure. Would it be a sin? Absolutely not. Did jesus drink? Yes, he did. Did he get drunk? No. Are you to get drunk? No, and that's the point The point is to be under with all your faculties and stat intact and to be in full control of yourself and be under the control Not being drunk in the spirit But to be controlled self-controlled under the guise of the holy spirit So friends, I hope that helps someone ask a question and so Hopefully that kind of clears it up But if anyone else has any questions in the future feel free to send me an email and maybe we'll tackle that question in a video Amen


So, when the strategy, the medium, and the message are joined with creativity, they can defeat the Pence amendment that would have defunded Planned Parenthood. So I want you to welcome to the stage the Executive Vice President of Planned Parenthood, Donald Gans, and activist and rights advocate, Lindsay Taylor Wood. Thank you for having us. We're really excited and nervous to be here. So, I was thinking on the way to the conference this morning that I can think of no other non-profit that has the type of global recognition, brand recognition, and equity that Planned Parenthood has. And Don and I were chatting about that backstage, and you said to me after 101 years, so they just had their 101st anniversary. But you said to me, you know, we aren't just championing birth control, we're championing a big idea. And I think it's a great place to kick off because we think about, so many people think about Planned Parenthood only in terms of birth control. And your services are so much more comprehensive than that. So I think a great place to start is, what does Planned Parenthood do? Yeah, thank you, Lindsay. Thank you all for having me. Yes, we were started in Brooklyn, actually, 101 years ago from Tuesday. So we really are in the birthday week. I'll let you sing later. But yeah, I always say, you know, people know either if you love us or hate us, and luckily more people love us. But people say, they think of us for our services or advocacy. And what I always like to talk about, Lindsay, is that Planned Parenthood was actually centered on a big idea. We didn't invent it, but we have championed it this whole time. And that is, your body and your pleasure are your own.  And if they aren't, you are not going to be free or equal. And we're still fighting that today, unfortunately. Well, and that's a great segue into the next question, because again, you've been doing this for over 100 years, and we are still fighting for basic reproductive rights, which is astonishing and terrifying given what we have ahead of us with this administration. So can you speak to why it is that you think we're still fighting for these fundamental basic rights? I do think it ties exactly back to that, which is that there are still people who don't want women to be free or equal, and they don't want a lot of other people in this country to be free or equal either. And so it really is at that fundamental level, a different world view. And I can tell you a couple of things that are going on right now that are really terrifying. One, I think we've all heard the rollback and attacks on the birth control benefit that 62 million women in this country are counting on in order to have access to no or low cost contraceptives, contraceptives without a copay, that really power their education, their economic future, their future family if they choose to have one, and communities and engagement across this country. The other thing that's super terrifying and really is a case of, I don't know if it's art versus life or life imitating art, but in Brownsville, Texas today, as we sit here, there is a 17-year-old undocumented young woman who is basically being held hostage by our government and refused an abortion that the courts have said she is entitled to have. They took her to a crisis pregnancy center, forced her to have an ultrasound she didn't want, and are literally a guy in an office in Washington, D.C., where I'm so happy to be away from, is dictating that he is not going to follow the court order and is basically trying to force her to have this baby. And so if that's not the handmade tale, I don't know what is. So, given that horrifying and very real example of the challenges that we're facing, we definitely want to spend part of today, or most of this conversation, talking about solutions and solutions that are specific to this audience. And given that the theme of this conference is really around how we can partner with artists to create the world that we want to create, I would love to know how is Planned Parenthood thinking about partnering with artists and the role that art can play in reducing stigma? What are the ways that you're thinking about that? Well, we don't believe you can have a movement that doesn't have art, really, and artists at its center. I know we all heard Pala talking about that as well. And so we have partnered across a range of disciplines and artists working either professionally in terms of, we'll look at some clips here working in the entertainment industry, but also people who are powering all kinds of things from spoken word art to graffiti art to music. And so a lot of ways that we believe that we can challenge stigma in the culture. And we really will not win this battle until we deal with the stigma that is at the heart of it around women's sexuality. And I know we have a couple examples, but one of those examples is a VR piece that you guys did called Across the Line. And that, if you haven't seen it, is something definitely worth checking out. And we unfortunately couldn't have the VR sets for everyone here today. So we wanted to show a short video about what exactly that looked like and how Planned Parenthood created that piece. But can you talk more about how it came about and what you were hoping to accomplish by making it? Maybe what we can do is go to the video and see a few clips from some of the serialized TV shows. And just an interesting fact for our audience, those of you who do work in writing and storytelling, which is really the heart of what we think changes minds and builds empathy, is that studies are showing that nothing changes the culture more than serialized television. So if you work in that, you're very, very, very powerful. We write very good materials about sex ed. We do not write very good television. So we don't try and do that. But we do work to provide a lot of the things that creatives need if they want to include storylines or Planned Parenthood in their work. Yeah. And just to speak to that really quickly before we transition to Across the Line, if you don't have a chance to connect with her on how you can do that, definitely Karen Sprock, the incredible Karen Sprock is in the audience. So in the spirit of, again, being solutions oriented, snag her if you want to understand better how you can partner with Planned Parenthood to accomplish things like this. And then... And three things we have before we can show Across the Line, which I know you're eager to get to because that's how we connected, just wanted to say we don't only work in television, a couple of really great partnerships that we've had. This is... We worked with spoken art, spoken word artists. We worked with musicians. We worked with graffiti and other artists to launch our new I Defy program, which is aimed at engaging teenagers in the movement. And we've almost reached 200,000 15 to 19 year olds who have signed up to be part of the movement for reproductive rights and justice in just a year because of art and what they have brought. We also... Anybody here went to or saw Refinery 29's 29 Rooms, which was a really great installation piece. We had a Planned Parenthood room in the 29 rooms, which was the neon room for any of you who went. And again, thousands and thousands of people who attended that event. And then finally, just another example here. Fashion stands with Planned Parenthood and people who are in the fashion industry, not just at fashion shows standing up, but creating pieces of clothing and engaging with us in ways that let more and more people show what they believe and how they want to be part of something in the world. Also, just this morning, on any streaming platform you can go to, we released the digital box edition of Seven Inches for Planned Parenthood and Know Your Little Dirty Minds. It's actually going to ultimately be released as seven seven inch vinyl records that were produced and pulled together by the National on about 20 other amazing artists. And that's available today. Exclusive announcement here at the Brooklyn Museum conference. Okay, great. So we've talked about serialized television. We've talked about installation. We've talked about fashion. And now, again, moving towards virtual reality. Tell us about Across the Line. How did it come to be? And then we can take a peek at the video. Across the Line is a seven minute virtual reality film that we made with the godmother of virtual reality, Noni Delapeña and a number of other talented VR artists a couple of years ago. It debuted at Sundance. We were super excited about that. What it does is it gives people the chance to experience what it is actually like to be the person walking through a crowd of protesters going into a health center that provides abortion. And I had been lucky enough to see Noni's piece on Syria where you got to actually walk through and experience a refugee camp. And I walked out the other end and said, okay, we have to do this because there's an important story to tell that we can't figure out how to make people understand this isn't nones nicely praying outside. This is bullies really going after people in a way that even anyone who professed to be Christian could not defend if they saw it. And that was in fact what we saw with some lawmakers. We've taken it to many state capitals. We've taken it to many festivals. We've taken it to college campuses. And we had a state legislator who was very opposed to abortion. But we invited all the legislators to come and he showed up to his credit. I really appreciated that. And he went through and he came out and he was furious. And our volunteer was a little bit freaked out because she thought, oh my god, is this guy furious at me and what's he going to do? And he took off the headset and he said nobody who does that could call themselves Christian. And what was so powerful about that, I don't think we changed his vote, but I do think we opened his heart in a way that would mean he wouldn't be a supportive when somebody next said, hey, that's our plan for next Tuesday that he might actually say, I don't think that's a really good plan. So that's what we're hoping for. The incredible activist should be a Wilson who many of you know actually tweeted something yesterday, which I feel like is very much in alignment with this. She said haters are actually the just the people that don't get it yet. And I feel like that's how you start moving people forward, right? It's it's pulling those empathy levers and then bringing them along a journey. So you may not have his vote yet. But I have a feeling it's coming. We're working. Well, should we take a look at this so people can really get a feel for what we put together? Jezebel feminist, you're worthless.  Maybe your parents should have aborted you. How do we get people to understand and become a witness and beyond scene and experience what these young women have to experience?   I don't know that people really understand what it feels like to have people telling you what to do with your body. We see virtual reality is an amazing opportunity to actually put someone in someone else's shoes. Oh my gosh. And to show what people go through when they try to access health care at some health centers in this country. We really felt there would be something very interesting with combining the 360 spherical video with the CG created volumetric virtual reality so that individuals could feel like they're on scene, you know, as witnessing somebody else's experience where we should go for the clinic. You're here to pray for the abortion clinic. You're here to go to the abortion and then be there themselves.  You know that?  What do you think you're doing here? What do you think you're doing here? This was really challenging because we set out to do something that was documentary style but adapting it to this new medium. Then we had to do a motion capture session where we motion captured both body and facial recreation. Hickid, Jezebel, Feminist.  We went through this whole workshop process where a woman whose background is in trauma-informed theater would work with the women to surface the emotion of those stories. And Christina, she's a woman who has gone through an abortion herself. We tried to lift that story up and bring it as close to possible to consciousness, then go shoot the documentary scene. That immersive experience will allow people to see what it's actually like for these women. I don't think you can divorce violent things that happen from the violent, hateful rhetoric that is its fuel. Once they see it, once they experience it, they are going to say, this is wrong. Women, men, young people, they should not face this abuse and harassment outside of health centers. And I think this is a game changer. Talking about earlier, what has the reaction to this been? I'm pleased to say it. We do like to win awards, although that's not why we make things. So it's won a few awards and gotten some recognition, which has helped us get it out in more places. But most importantly, what we have done is start some studies. And the great thing is the preliminary research is showing it actually has an impact if you do a before and after test on what people's views are and whether they think this is acceptable behavior, and whether they think there should be protections that people have from this kind of abuse. And it's been very interesting to me. Women come out and I will say it's either very triggering because they say this is the kind of abuse in some place in my life that I have actually experienced, or they come out and they go, yeah, no surprise. Men have been a surprise audience for me because one of the guys who is six foot two, been an escort outside of a health center in Minneapolis, St. Paul area for years, he went through it. And I thought, Oh, my God, he's going to just be so like, Yeah, I see this every day. He came out again, took off the headset tears are running down his face. Wow, kind of surprised. He said, I had become so kind of protected myself that I had forgotten what that that the woman I'm escorting can't basically tune it out. And by just stepping those two feet to his right, and actually having that yelling happen at him, which I just don't think men have very much. It's very hard to like fake yell at somebody, right? Yeah, these are people really going at people. And when you walk through the thing, you can't tell it as much here. It actually triggers the people to yell at you and move toward you. So as you move along the line of people, they're really coming into your space. I also have a, I guess I just be careful because it's but is Brooklyn, you know, I have this photo of a guy with the headset on and he's basically flipping the bird at somebody in the headset, right? That he's seeing in the headset. It's a great shot. So so anyway, a very powerful tool. We're trying to do a lot of other things with virtual reality. Now, one of the things that we're looking at is how could we use the kind of good part of virtual reality being private to actually make it a teaching tool around sexual education, consent, you know, a lot of young people, they don't have a space where you can practice and fail. Failing is really bad. Well, that's such a great segue to because unfortunately, we have a minute left. But one of the things that I was I was reading a transcript of a speech that you gave recently and as a person who's incredibly interested in using innovation and technologies to work for women, it was unexpected and such a pleasant surprise to find how forward thinking Planned Parenthood what is when it comes to frontier technologies. So in addition to the arts, you guys have put out a birth control or a tracking app where you can track your period and your birth control.  And then again, you're thinking about virtual health clinics VR for sex ed. So what does the future for Planned Parenthood look like as it relates to these new frontier technologies in art? Well, given everything that is coming at us, I feel like we're like the bear went over the mountain. You have to go under it, over it, around it, whatever in order to be able to get people the care they need and to give them where we started ownership, power over their bodies and their pleasure. And if people have that, they can go on to do anything they want in the world. And I would just say to our audience, which I know is full of some of the most talented creators out there, everything we do is better when it involves artists and storytellers and dreamers and experienced designers and people who can convey our values very deeply, right? Somebody who is not an artist, we could have made a virtual reality film, but by making it with Nani and Brad and those guys who are true artists, it really touches and changes people's lives. So again, we're just so appreciative for the relationship we have with the arts community writ large. There's a way for every single person to get involved with us.  We would love to hear from you and we appreciate everything that you do. So thank you. Well, we appreciate what you do, Dawn, and all of Planned Parenthood. So thank you for having us. That's all the time we have. That, let's give it up for Dawn and Planned again. I mean, I think it's just finding the way up over under through. It should not be difficult to give women and families their rights to their bodies and health care.


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