very fact that blinkin was here went to Saudi Arabia it's coming back here but we are in the middle of a serious crisis a serious crisis and it's not enough to change messages blinkin comes here to tell us about what he found out in those arab countries it's true that there is a lot of flip service support for the palestinian gaza i don't believe for one moment that muhammad mensulman really cares about hamas but politically from an arabic point of view he cannot now continue his relation his effort to build a relationship with israel he has to be in the arab can but why is blinkin coming back i think you hear we heard the escalation on the northern front there is clearly every day now more and more and more incident locally incident for the time being but there is an escalation on the northern front and it seems more and more possible that his bala might go into into the war now also mrs colonna the french foreign minister is here on her way to lebanon she she's here solidarity visit it's okay but she goes away with a message to lebanon and we see the lebanese government responsible for what is going if it is going to happen from the side with all the consequences that this country which is by the way in a terrible economical situation there are two hours electricity in beirut i mean they are there but if his bala really joins the fighting then the country must expect a big israeli retaliation and it's true we're not speaking up we're not going to say yes we're going to do that and that and that and that but the very fact that we are silent and sending diplomatic messages they have to be very careful oh and people in this region closely watching the words out of the saudi crown prince given that before the war it seemed that steps were definitely getting closer and closer and warmer to some kind of normalization what did you make of the message that was sent by muhammad bin salman right now i did it look that way did uh the saudi crown prince said it in his own voice right every day we're getting closer to normalization that was just a month ago look he's in an impossible position as abhi just explained obviously has to have a certain kind of messaging for his own public and for publics around the arab and muslim world that said what was true in september is still true today and it's going to be true in november and it's going to be true next year the saudi interest in terms of what muhammad bin salman wants to see is the vision for his country and his need to show and pay a costly signal to show how serious he is about that vision all of it points in the medium or long term for the normalization of my opinion to be back on in the short term it may be may be complicated although you know i put out a thought experiment on twitter i'm just to see your reaction what if what if muhammad bin salman were there in that room with antony blinkin and say mr secretary in exchange for israel stopping the campaign in gaza instant normalization i'll sign the piece of paper right now that's a big what if what result right and i i meant it as a thought experiment what was i in a sense i think trying to get at is that saudi arabia has a lot of leverage here this is a country that israel want to listen to that israel want to cooperate with that israel might even be willing to make concessions with even given the stakes of this war even given the objectives that we as a public right and the military and government want to achieve and even given what we faced this is one player that even given all of that even given all of that has real leverage maybe even second only to the united states so i think it's really worth watching not only what muhammad bin salman says right because what he says is important but maybe not fully reflective of his thinking but also what he does and to think out of the box about what he can offer and at what stage of the process he can offer it oh and ultimate avipasnera stay with us we've got more to discuss right now though i want to go to new york we welcome natalie sanandaji she survived that music festival the nova party on saturday and she is now back in the united states natalie thank you so much for speaking to us i cannot imagine what you have been through in the past week and a day take us back if you will to saturday morning the 7th of october you were at that music festival take us through your recollections we were at the festival thousands of young israelis just coming to have a good time to dance at around 6 30 from my campsite at the festival i was one of the only americans at around 6 30 one of the girls israeli girls came up to me to tell me there have been some rockets that have been sent our way they wanted to keep me calm let me know that this happened sometimes this is something that is a reality for most israeli kids this is something that they grow up with this is something that they're used to i don't think if there was a festival anywhere else in the world and suddenly rockets were being intercepted right over their heads that they would stay so calm and they would say oh it's okay it'll probably just be a few it's normal for the area that we're in this will be over soon that wouldn't that wouldn't happen anywhere else but these kids grew up with war as a reality nobody understood the severity of the situation when the rockets first started coming they thought that it would just be a few rockets and that's it right now you guys are actually showing a video of the bathrooms being shot at the festival the first time i saw this video was yesterday and this is something that hit me very hard because when the rockets first started coming and they shut off the music and the security of the festival asked us to please evacuate the premises and go to our cars i asked my friends i knew that we would have a long drive home at this point we thought it was just rockets and that we would all drive out of here safely i asked my friends you think i can just go to the bathroom for a second uh before this long drive and they said yeah go to the bathroom i was in those bathrooms maybe i don't know how long before the terrorist came and started shooting at them but i was there and seeing that made me realize how much my life was in danger and that i could have been in those bathrooms when they came and they started shooting we evacuated waited to our cars and the party security asked us to all please start going in a specific direction we were in a field you couldn't drive on most of this field and we're all trying to get down the same road the security eventually asks us to turn around and to go in the other direction at this point we started to get a little bit confused a little bit more worried the rockets kept coming and we had a feeling that there was something else coming that we were not informed of yet once we started going in the other direction the security started yelling at everyone to please get out of their cars and start running because the the fact was that so many cars in such a confined space was making us an easy target we sat in our cars we didn't understand why they asked us to get out at first until we heard the first gunshots and that's when we realized that the terrorists were right next to us they had come on foot they had guns and we were thousands of children with nothing to protect ourselves as soon as we heard the gunshots we opened our doors and we just started to run everyone was running in different directions nobody knew what direction was safe nobody knew where they were coming from every decision we made on what direction to run in was a decision that either saved our lives or got us killed or got us kidnapped at a certain point I remember we were running and a bunch of kids that were at the festival were hiding in a ditch and we contemplated whether or not to hide in the ditch or keep running and then we heard more gunshots and we decided to run instead of instead of hiding in this ditch and later on one of my friends that was with me told me that the kids that hid in the ditch got shot and that they're no longer with us and that could have been us if we made one wrong decision we ran for about four hours unbelievable for the first two hours there was nobody around us to protect us most of the security that was at the festival was killed trying to help everyone go in the right direction after about two hours we did come across a police officer he didn't seem to have much information either all he had on him was a handgun and that wasn't even much to protect us with but he walked with us he walked by our side and we asked him if he's able to call anyone to send help to send backup but right away we heard that the the terrorists had taken over the nearby police station it had taken over their radio station and we heard them screaming on his walkie-talkie he couldn't even call for backup for anyone to come help us because if he said where we were they would have hurt us and it would have came for us what's going through your mind at this point what are you thinking at this point all I can think about is all the people that didn't make it out that weren't as lucky as me all the people that were killed all the people that were kidnapped and my biggest fear right now is that it's only going to get worse before it can get better and I fear for all of my friends and all of my family that's still there so many people that were at the festival that got lucky that survived the festival are now re-enlisting in the army and putting their lives at risk once again to protect their people to protect their country we're hearing that and we are blown away by the bravery of people who have survived this attack people like you who are prepared to speak out now and other people who are prepared to go back and fight we are learning more and more details every single day about exactly what emerged and the scale of what unfolded thank you for sharing your ordeal stay safe thank you thank you for having me israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity king news edition i'm bonisa levine coming to you live from tel aviv on day nine of the war between israel and chamas news just in eight israelis are wounded in the latest rocket barrage up north across the israel-lebanon border now this all happening just after new details emerge about the start of this war the planning ahead of that massive chamas terror attack involving civilian massacres a plan more than a year in the making a plan that has seen more than one thousand three hundred people shot tortured and butchered at a music festival and at several kibbutzim and moshavin in southern israel a plan that has seen chamas compared to isis and has drawn repeated calls for the terror group to be eliminated a plan that now sees at least 150 people being held hostage inside gaza according to israel's current assessment the hostages ranging in age from a nine month old baby to an 89 year old man it's not only israelis impacted by this horrific attack those killed and those missing include nationals from 43 different countries in total 148 foreign nationals have been killed 143 are missing now the idf has since struck several chamas terror sites in the gaza strip including high ranking chamas and palestinian islamic jihad members the idf also repeatedly warning gaza residents to leave the northern part of gaza and is so far holding off on its ground response giving more time for evacuations the un saying so far more than four hundred and twenty three thousand palestinians have already left their homes several world leaders condemning the terrorist spree which started on saturday the seventh of october the united states showing its unwavering support with the visit of both secretary of state antony blinkin and loyde austin the u.s. defense secretary saying he knows isis and chamas is worse than isis so for the latest we now go to our correspondent mary mccullough she joins us from ashkelon at the barzi lie hospital mary what's the latest update what can you share at this hour hi venita it's been an unusually quiet day here today in ashkelon which of course we're very near the israel gaza border this is a city that has seen massive amounts of rockets fired here including last night where there were very large barges fired at the city most of residents are not leaving their homes the shops are closed and most are remaining as close to shelter as they can here at the hospital though it has become a bit quieter than the madness and the chaos that was earlier in this week as they were taking dozens and dozens of injured both soldiers and civilians from the fighting that has broken out in the past week or so fortunately for the hospital workers here today it has been a bit quieter and we haven't seen very many people coming in but they are still remaining to treat a number of patients here some of them who remain in difficult situations difficult conditions but we are also still seeing the visit from the french foreign minister he was here earlier today and expressing his support and solidarity with israel live from ashkelon our correspondent mary mccullough thank you so much for that update stay safe mary now for a week the eyes of the world have been on southern israel and the gaza strip but even the gaza arena might ultimately prove a sideshow should the war expand to lebanon syria or even iran itself in the past few hours israel striking hezbollah posts after the terror group claimed responsibility for another anti-tank guided missile attack on the lebanon border the fifth on this day and a short while ago iran's foreign minister saying tehran cannot remain a spectator if what he calls the aggression against gaza continues senior correspondent owen ultiman looks at the dilemma facing iran to cut khamas loose or risk losing everything in doha on saturday he was all smiles iranian foreign minister josey namer abdulayyan greeting hamas leader is smile hyenia in the capital of katar and in beirut on friday too he had been all smiles amir abdulayyan happy with his work and playing coy with what comes next of course the resistance has kept on the table all possible scenarios on the other fronts the zero hour for any action against the crimes is also at the hands of the resistance the resistance of course is hezbollah with iran even at this hour separating itself formally from the group even as hezbollah is widely recognized as iran's proxy as iran and its network face in israel at top readiness and the united states set to be parked offshore with two aircraft carrier strike groups iran and hezbollah since day one of this war are finding themselves in a dilemma here is the dilemma if iran is going to send hezbollah to the world iran is going to jeopardize not only the the risk or downfall of hamas in gaza street which seems to be like almost imminent imminent imminent but also a massive strike to hezbollah and indeed that dilemma axios reported iran passed israel a message through the united nations warning of iran's direct entry into the war should the israeli campaign in gaza intensify the decisions in tehran are fateful ones by design or by accident the clock for iran is ticking to high noon and israel hopes that for iran's proxies from gaza to lebanon to syria and beyond that the clock is ticking to midnight and as we are speaking red alert siren sounding as we speak in some of the border communities in the south including near um that happening just seconds ago but it's to the north where we find our correspondent khamda sahud she joins us from the northern border and khamda the last we heard eight israelis have been wounded in the latest rocket barrage across the northern border what update confirmation can you share but you know the israeli military says that nine rockets were fired from southern lebanon and they are now working on striking those rocket launching sites a hezbollah spokesperson speaking earlier is saying that the intensity of in the exchange of fire was actually just a warning to israel and it's not his bulla's indication that they're going to join the war however in southern lebanon the palestinian faction hamez says that they sent those rockets giving a statement quote the al-qasem brigades in lebanon bombed shlomi and naharia and they're surrounding northern area in occupied palestine with 20 missiles in response to the continuing situation in gaza there have been several military reinforcements that the israelis have been sending to the north as they prepare for what could be a multi-front conflict i'll remind you his bulla's weaponry is much stronger than what we see out of gaza you can actually hear fighter jets overhead here heading toward that northern direction his bulla has a military arsenal but we don't exactly know what's there in 2016 they said they had around 150 000 short-range rockets but we still haven't seen those longer more ballistic and destructive missiles they also have handheld weapons that can destroy drones there's really a lot that is still unknown and should they choose to enter this conflict it could be a situation that israel finds itself stretched thin not only in the south but also in the north thank you so much correspondent khamdesahut live from the northern border more to come from khamda in the coming hours and days now in studio we welcome benjamin antony co-founder and CEO of the meriam institute benjamin thank you so much for being here in studio it's got so complicated that now when there's rocket fire from the north coming towards israeli territory we need to unpack whether it's from hezbollah whether it's from hamas whether it's from a palestinian faction and what that exact message might mean your take on what is brewing up north as we speak so i think that what we've all witnessed to last shabbat morning last saturday morning was the result of the over intellectualization of the assessment of our enemies now it's not the time to lay into the senior defense establishment and the government of the state of israel at this moment that will come but you mentioned that this was a complex situation i actually believe it might but need to be rather simple explain why we have examples from our past we have the sixth day war of 1967 during which the state of israel facing the potential of a multi-front campaign launched a preemptive strike specifically against the egyptians to the south and as a consequence won that war swiftly and decisively we also have another lesson from the past the yom kippur war where the states of israel waited and waited and waited and i would rather see as if it is to be the case of a multi-front war follow the example that we saw in 1967 during the sixth day war and issue the example that we saw in 1973 during the yom kippur war so let me say it clearly we face a situation where our society is reeling emotionally from what took place adjacent to the gaza strip but there is an additional anxiety everybody who's wondering what will chis bala do to us i don't think that that is the sign of a country and a people who know self-determination i think the very definition of zionism is actually to determine our own future and therefore i would say i would like to see as one citizen of israel a definitive categorical preemptive strike on chis bala's capabilities on their rocket capabilities in the north without delay let's take out one front let's do it either simultaneously or prior to whatever awaits us inside the gaza strip but let's not wait until they decide what way they will rain down upon us and just to put this into context we fought a war with rockets coming in from the gaza strip for 51 or 52 days during operation protective edge in 2014 i had a personal briefing with then commander of the northern formation of the israel defense forces with a specialty on lebanon his name was major general noam tibon he's been in the news for acts of heroism of late as well he told me that at that time his bala was armed to the capacity where they could fire rockets in the number of 2200 per day that cannot be tolerated and it would be a crime were it to be tolerated and accepted but when iran says it cannot remain a spectator how does that change your assessment your suggestion as we speak it merely reinforces it what we have to do is defang the beasts that are on our borders and we need to do that precisely because we don't know when one enemy will add itself to the already existing list of our enemies so we need to take out hamas we need to take out his bala inside and lebanon and that will of course deter iran from coming in because his bala is actually there at the deployment of the iranians what do you make of the concerns around the hostages who are being kept in Gaza right now that a ground operation or an attempt to eliminate hamas which is what israel is planning to do would mean for the chances of those hostages being brought back to safety and of course deeply deeply concerned for our hostages we have an estimated 150 individuals there it's not just our elderly our infirm our women our men our soldiers it's also our unborn children there are pregnant women potentially there who are being held hostage as well I don't know what the fate of those hostages will be nobody knows and the reason is because the attack was so depraved and the number of hostages that they took was so indiscriminate that we are in uncharted territory we have to push on we have to strike hamas we have to topple hamas whether or not we're going to whether or not there's the political will and indeed international support will be sustained and whether it will remain as strong as it's been thus far that is an enormous question egypt has closed the rougher crossing exacerbating the situation for those who are trying to flee for the palestinian civilians who are trying to flee notwithstanding that there is satellite imagery showing hamas tracks blockading stopping civilians from leaving notwithstanding the fact that israel told civilians to leave the area and we had a recording earlier on in our shows of the idf speaking to a palestinian civilian saying that hamas was stopping them from leaving talk to us about the humanitarian crisis that is going to be unfolding you made mention of the optics from the international arena when hundreds and thousands of palestinians are trying to get to some kind of safety when this ground operation takes place listen i think the state of israel has done more than is required of a nation in the situation that we find ourselves in order to reduce to its lowest level the number of civilian casualties on the other side namely the palestinian arabs who live there inside the gaza strip but i have to tell you my appetite for concern for civilians is fully satiated by my concern for my own civilians the citizens of the state of israel who are also our soldiers who are also our citizens that's where my concern begins that's where it ends now with regard to the movement south i can tell you if hamas does not cynically prevent them from moving south the israel defense forces is more than capable of securing a corridor through which they're able to exit specifically the northern part of the gaza strip to safety down in the south with regard to what's going on the raffa crossing we'll wait and see there's time to work there the key right now is to get the palestinian arabs out of northern gaza into the south and then we will deal with what awaits them at the border crossing and in a new development israel turning on the water pipes in southern gaza that happening just a short while ago we obviously will keep watching to see the developments out of gaza as well as along the southern communities thank you so much for your insights benjamin antony co-founder and ceo of the merian institute appreciate you being here in studio now we go to our correspondent nicole zedek she joins us from rammle where benjamin netanyahu is meeting with families of those hostages we were talking about a little bit earlier people who were kidnapped abducted on saturday last week and taken across into gaza nicole what update can you share well as i'm speaking to you right now benita prime minister benjamin netanyahu is speaking with some of those family members along with representatives that are representing the families of those who are taking hostage and missing as of this morning we know that number is now at least 126 people that's 126 family members that are worried about their loved ones for more than a week now and they're furious benita there's a lot of anger out here as well because they're calling on the israeli government and the israeli military to do more they say how has this gone on for more than a week that we don't know exactly where our loved ones are and if they're safe and for the 126 people then their family members that do know they are taking hostage some people speculate it could be dozens more whether that's 150 or some speculations even 200 and so a lot of the family members also who don't know where their family members are they're missing and that's also posing a major concern for so many people because they're questioning which option is better benita if their family members have been taken hostage or if they were killed and this is the reality that so many family members and friends are facing right now exactly not knowing where their loved ones are so the hostage situation is a very very critical one and as we see down south as the israeli military is preparing for a ground invasion that makes the hostage situation that much more complicated and so that's why the family members the the friends the those representing all of those that have been taken want to meet with these leaders such as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to make sure that the government is doing everything they can to get their loved ones out of the Gaza Strip as soon as possible and as safely as possible so right now as we speak that's exactly what's happening behind closed doors here at the home front command center an imaginable pain for those families not knowing this uncertainty certainly exacerbating an already traumatic situation correspondent Nicole Zedek live from Ramle thank you very much for that update Nicole and as we continue with our coverage more sirens sounding in the southern communities near the Gaza border including in Nakhal Oz that happening just seconds ago we keep on hearing about more and more sirens they all indicate rocket fire heading towards residential parts of Israel and now we speak to another survivor of Saturday's Hamas terror attack and we bring in Yair an IDF soldier who was wounded while on active duty he joins us from central Israel Yair thank you very much for speaking to us take us back to Saturday where exactly were you near Kibbutz Sufa tell us your story first of all hello I was based in Sufa in the in the base there in our military base um just another weekend we were closing um then 6 30 6 o'clock um sirens start going and we're um we're woken up to big big rockets and booms hitting our hitting our area we then go into shelter um from there we're told uh that something serious has happened we must all go get our gear and uh and fight um we do that and then just as I exit the front gate to go do what we need to do um we're opened that up fire there were 10 terrorists there um just started shooting at us we take cover behind this uh these big rocks that create this shape um me and four of the friends um off the back my friend gets shot right in the thigh it goes all the way to his backside um and then we are we enter a battle for an hour an hour and a half where uh they shot shot RPGs at us through grenades um just had 10 times the weaponry I was in there wasn't a very even fight but uh we fought we were more accurate we were better uh we were smarter and we managed to kill a few and enough for them to decide that an alternative way into the base was the only way into the base yeah I understand you were wounded how are you doing how is your recovery um yeah I was wounded uh one of the grenades hit me in a few different spots uh very very black wounds I have a couple in my head one in my chin that uh that they took out and uh there's one in my leg that is is still healing and is the reason that I'm not able to go back yet um it's a little infected but within a week or two please god I'll be I'll be back with my friends there are certainly many who will be watching this who will be shocked to hear you talk about when I go back I understand you only had 15 days left till the end of your service how do you feel about going back as this war continues um so yeah definitely wasn't part of my plans all of this we already had a book Thailand you know my you know my mates um but uh this is what it is and we've already all accepted it and uh going back isn't uh obviously it's no one's dream to take part in these type of things um but it's just what's right that's what's important and um it's it's all there is you know we have one country one place for the Jewish people to be and uh it's not really uh if I want to if I'm feeling like it it's it's just happening it's uh it's what's right and what's important and your air it was obviously such a massive devastating knock on saturday give us an understanding now as the next phase of this war seems to be falling into place the sentiment your understanding from within the IDF other soldiers how are they feeling what are their emotions like as the next phase looks set to start very soon the the the the the general understanding between everyone is that it we have to hit them and we have to hit them very very hard there must not be a Hamas after this this time um too long have we been patient with them we they shoot their rockets they do their weekly terrorist attacks and we just take it um and no longer now is the now is the time where we are we are going to from what I understand we are going to we are going to eradicate Hamas um and uh that's just what will be yeah yeah from central Israel thank you very much for speaking to us thank you for sharing your story of course be safe and now we go to our correspondent Pierre Klushendler he joins us from Storot in southern Israel so we are hearing more rocket alerts happening in several parts of the south update us from your perspective thank you Pierre there's a bad wind coming from the south uh of the security uh border from emanating from the Gaza Strip a bad wing of rockets rockets fire now it's in Lachal Oz which is a few kilometers down south of this city which is practically an abandoned city by its residents a city of 30,000 but probably 90 percent of the residents have left and there are some lonely cars driving as you've just seen or lonely walkers with a tormented gaze that are walking in in the city but you can see all the stores are closed the silence of the city is only punctuated by the booms of the shelling of the Gaza Strip right now by the alarm of one of the shop that was ignited probably by one of the explosions by the buzz of the uncrewed aerial vehicles that are patrolling the skies of Gaza and this is about it the city now is in the hands of the security forces and there is basically no residents that are staying in this city that has been hard hit earlier at around 11 a.m there was a direct hit on the house which burnt no casualties only damage because the residents had left already and yet as we're speaking to you Pierre we're seeing siren sounding in near Yitzhak in your arm and several parts nearby obviously you say many of the residents in the southern communities have been evacuated nonetheless what is being made of the arsenal that Hamas still has the weapons capabilities it still has still nine days in and rocket fire sirens are becoming part of the daily norm I don't know figures about the arsenal of Hamas their short-range mortar shells their rockets but they do have an arsenal what we sense is that they're trying to save that arsenal in the sense that the rocket fire is less intense that at the beginning of the world declared by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad so they're trying to save those rockets for days to come probably this is why it's not a flurry of rockets usually it's just four or five rockets and that's it but given that it's always dangerous to be in the streets like we are so where we are there is a protective shelter that Daniel Nour will show you we're just next to it because we're 15 seconds away from the rocket fire three kilometers away from the Gaza Strip but most importantly 15 seconds away so here we are safe and the residents those who have decided to stay probably have a shelter because up until now they're where there are buildings that do not have a proper private shelter in their homes thank you so much that is our correspondent Pierre Kloschendler joining us live from Storot in southern Israel lots more to come of course from Pierre in the coming hours and we leave you with news just in we are hearing that Israeli fighter jets are striking targets up north it's not exactly clear what those targets are but it follows the latest barrage of rockets up north Hezbollah targets we are getting confirmation as we speak are being targeted that's after eight Israelis were wounded in the latest rocket barrage up north that is happening right now as we speak Israel is retaliating to that latest rocket barrage up north targeting Hezbollah sites right now and that's where we end this breaking news edition I'm Vanessa Levine live in Tel Aviv stay tuned our coverage continues 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with Hamas continues we bring you first-hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by Hamas follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on i-24 news this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unicycle this breaking news edition i'm Vanessa Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv on day nine of the war between Israel and Hamas news just in eight Israelis are wounded in the latest rocket barrage up north across the israel-lebanon border now this all happening just after new details emerge about the start of this war the planning ahead of that massive Hamas terror attack involving civilian massacres a plan more than a year in the making a plan that has seen more than 1300 people shot tortured and butchered at a music festival and at several kibbutzim and moshavin in southern israel a plan that has seen Hamas compared to isis and has drawn repeated calls for the terror group to be eliminated a plan that now sees at least 150 people being held hostage inside Gaza according to israel's current assessment the hostages ranging in age from a nine month old baby to an 89 year old man it's not only Israelis impacted by this horrific attack those killed and those missing include nationals from 43 different countries in total 148 foreign nationals have been killed 143 are missing now the IDF has since struck several Hamas terror sites in the Gaza Strip including high-ranking Hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad members the IDF also repeatedly warning Gaza residents to leave the northern part of Gaza and is so far holding off on its ground response giving more time for evacuations the UN saying so far more than 423 thousand Palestinians have already left their homes several world leaders condemning the terror spree which started on saturday the 7th of october the united states showing its unwavering support with the visit of both Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Lloyd Austin the U.S. Defense Secretary saying he knows ISIS and Hamas is worse than ISIS so for the latest we now go to our correspondent Mary McAuliffe she joins us from Ashkelon at the Barsi lie hospital Mary what's the latest update what can you share at this hour it's been an unusually quiet day here today in Ashkelon which of course were very near the Israel Gaza border this is a city that has seen massive amounts of rockets fired here including last night where there were very large barges fired at the city most of residents are not leaving their homes the shops are closed and most are remaining as close to shelter as they can here at the hospital though it has become a bit quieter than the madness and the chaos that was earlier in this week as they were taking dozens and dozens of injured both soldiers and civilians from the fighting that has broken out in the past week or so fortunately for the hospital workers here today it has been a bit quieter and we haven't seen very many people coming in but they are still remaining to treat a number of patients here some of them who remain in difficult situations difficult conditions but we are also still seeing the visit from the French foreign minister he was here earlier today and expressing his support in solidarity with Israel live from Ashkelon our correspondent Mary McAuliffe thank you so much for that update stay safe Mary now for a week the eyes of the world have been on southern Israel and the Gaza Strip but even the Gaza arena might ultimately prove a sideshow should the war expand to Lebanon Syria or even Iran itself in the past few hours Israel striking Hezbollah posts after the terror group claimed responsibility for another anti-tank guided missile attack on the Lebanon border the fifth on this day and a short while ago Iran's foreign minister saying Tehran cannot remain a spectator if what he calls the aggression against Gaza continues senior correspondent Owen Ultiman looks at the dilemma facing Iran to cut Hamas loose or risk losing everything in Doha on Saturday he was all smiles Iranian foreign minister Hussain Amir Abdullah Yian greeting Hamas leader Ismail Hania in the capital of Qatar and in Beirut on Friday too he had been all smiles Amir Abdullah Yian happy with his work and playing coy with what comes next of course the resistance has kept on the table all possible scenarios on the other fronts the zero hour for any action against the crimes is also at the hands of the resistance the resistance of course is Hezbollah with Iran even at this hour separating itself formally from the group even as Hezbollah is widely recognized as Iran's proxy as Iran and its network face in Israel at top readiness and the United States set to be parked offshore with two aircraft carrier strike groups Iran and Hezbollah since they one of these war are finding themselves in a dilemma here is the dilemma if Iran is going to send Hezbollah to the war Iran is going to jeopardize not only the the risk or downfall of Hamas in Gaza Street which seems to be like almost imminent imminent imminent but also a massive strike to Hezbollah and indeed that dilemma Axios reported Iran passed Israel a message through the United Nations warning of Iran's direct entry into the war should the Israeli campaign in Gaza intensify the decisions in Tehran are fateful ones by design or by accident the clock for Iran is ticking to high noon and Israel hopes that for Iran's proxies from Gaza to Lebanon to Syria and beyond that the clock is ticking to midnight and as we are speaking read alert siren sounding as we speak in some of the border communities in the south including near that happening just seconds ago but it's to the north where we find our correspondent Hamda Sahud she joins us from the northern border and Hamda the last we heard eight Israelis have been wounded in the latest rocket barrage across the northern border what update confirmation can you share but you know the Israeli military says that nine rockets were fired from southern Lebanon and they are now working on striking those rocket launching sites a Hezbollah spokesperson speaking earlier is saying that the intensity of in the exchange of fire was actually just a warning to Israel and it's not Hezbollah's indication that they're going to join the war however in southern Lebanon the Palestinian faction Hamas says that they sent those rockets giving a statement quote the Al Qasem brigades in Lebanon bombed Shlomi and Naharia and they're surrounding northern area in occupied Palestine with 20 missiles in response to the continuing situation in Gaza there have been several military reinforcements that the Israelis have been sending to the north as they prepare for what could be a multi-front conflict I'll remind you Hezbollah's weaponry is much stronger than what we see out of Gaza you can actually hear fighter jets overhead here heading toward that northern direction Hezbollah has a military arsenal but we don't exactly know what's there in 2016 they said they had around 150,000 short-range rockets but we still haven't seen those longer more ballistic and destructive missiles they also have handheld weapons that can destroy drones there's really a lot that is still unknown and should they choose to enter this conflict it could be a situation that Israel finds itself stretched thin not only in the south but also in the north thank you so much correspondent Hamdas Ahut live from the northern border more to come from Hamda in the coming hours and days now in studio we welcome Benjamin Anthony co-founder and CEO of the Miriam Institute Benjamin thank you so much for being here in studio it's got so complicated that now when there's rocket fire from the north coming towards Israeli territory we need to unpack whether it's from Hezbollah whether it's from Hamas whether it's from a Palestinian faction and what that exact message might mean your take on what is brewing up north as we speak so I think that what we bore witness to last Shabbat morning last Saturday morning was the result of the over intellectualization of the assessment of our enemies now it's not the time to lay into the senior defense establishment and the government of the state of Israel at this moment that will come but you mentioned that this was a complex situation I actually believe it might Bonita be rather simple explain why we have examples from our past we have the six-day war of 1967 during which the state of Israel facing the potential of a multi-front campaign launched a preemptive strike specifically against the Egyptians to the south and as a consequence won that war swiftly and decisively we also have another lesson from the past the Yom Kippur war where the state of Israel waited and waited and waited and I would rather see as if it is to be the case of a multi-front war follow the example that we saw in 1967 during the six-day war and issue the example that we saw in 1973 during the Yom Kippur war so let me say it clearly we face a situation where our society is reeling emotionally from what took place adjacent to the Gaza Strip but there is an additional anxiety everybody who's wondering what will Hezbollah do to us I don't think that that is the sign of a country and a people who know self-determination I think the very definition of Zionism is actually to determine our own future and therefore I would say I would like to see as one citizen of Israel a definitive categorical preemptive strike on Hezbollah's capabilities on their rocket capabilities in the north without delay let's take out one front let's do it either simultaneously or prior to whatever awaits us inside the Gaza Strip but let's not wait until they decide what way they will rain down upon us and just to put this into context we fought a war with rockets coming in from the Gaza Strip for 51 or 52 days during Operation Protective Edge in 2014 I had a personal briefing with then commander of the northern formation of the Israel Defense Forces with a specialty on Lebanon his name was Major General Noam Tibon he's been in the news for acts of heroism of late as well he told me that at that time Hezbollah was armed to the capacity where they could fire rockets in the number of 2200 per day that cannot be tolerated and it would be a crime were it to be tolerated and accepted but when Iran says it cannot remain a spectator how does that change your assessment your suggestion as we speak it merely reinforces it what we have to do is defang the beasts that are on our borders and we need to do that precisely because we don't know when one enemy will add itself to the already existing list of our enemies so we need to take out Hamas we need to take out Hezbollah inside and Lebanon and that will of course deter Iran from coming in because Hezbollah is actually there at the deployment of the Iranians what do you make of the concerns around the hostages who are being kept in Gaza right now that a ground operation or an attempt to eliminate Hamas which is what Israel is planning to do would mean for the chances of those hostages being brought back to safety and of course deeply deeply concerned for our hostages we have an estimated 150 individuals there it's not just our elderly our infirm our women our men our soldiers it's also our unborn children there pregnant women potentially there who are being held hostage as well I don't know what the fate of those hostages will be nobody knows and the reason is because the attack was so depraved and the number of hostages that they took was so indiscriminate that we are in uncharted territory we have to push on we have to strike Hamas we have to topple Hamas whether or not we're going to whether or not there's the political will and indeed international support will be sustained and whether it will remain as strong as it's been thus far that is an enormous question Egypt has closed the rougher crossing exacerbating the situation for those who are trying to flee for the Palestinian civilians who are trying to flee notwithstanding that there is satellite imagery showing Hamas tracks blockading stopping civilians from leaving notwithstanding the fact that Israel told civilians to leave the area and we had a recording earlier on in our shows of the IDF speaking to a Palestinian civilian saying that Hamas was stopping them from leaving talk to us about the humanitarian crisis that is going to be unfolding you made mention of the optics from the international arena when hundreds and thousands of Palestinians are trying to get to some kind of safety when this ground operation takes place listen I think the state of Israel has done more than is required of a nation in the situation that we find ourselves in order to reduce to its lowest level the number of civilian casualties on the other side namely the Palestinian Arabs who live there inside the Gaza Strip but I have to tell you my appetite for concern for civilians is fully satiated by my concern for my own civilians the citizens of the state of Israel who are also our soldiers who are also our citizens that's where my concern begins that's where it ends now with regard to the movement south I can tell you if Hamas does not cynically prevent them from moving south the Israel defense forces is more than capable of securing a corridor through which they're able to exit specifically the northern part of the Gaza Strip to safety down in the south with regard to what's going on the Rafa crossing we'll wait and see there's time to work there the key right now is to get the Palestinian Arabs out of northern Gaza into the south and then we will deal with what awaits them at the border crossing and in a new development Israel turning on the water pipes in southern Gaza that happening just a short while ago we obviously will keep watching to see the developments out of Gaza as well as along the southern communities thank you so much for your insights Benjamin Antony co-founder and CEO of the Miriam Institute appreciate you being here in studio now we go to our correspondent Nicole Zedek she joins us from Ramle where Benjamin Netanyahu is meeting with families of those hostages we were talking about a little bit earlier people who were kidnapped abducted on Saturday last week and taken across into Gaza Nicole what update can you share well as I'm speaking to you right now Benita Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking with some of those family members along with representatives that are representing the families of those who are taking hostage and missing as of this morning we know that number is now at least 126 people that's 126 family members that are worried about their loved ones for more than a week now and they're furious Benita there's a lot of anger out here as well because they're calling on the Israeli government and the Israeli military to do more they say how has this gone on for more than a week that we don't know exactly where our loved ones are and if they're safe and for the 126 people then their family members that do know they are taken hostage some people speculate it could be dozens more whether that's 150 or some speculations even 200 and so a lot of the family members also who don't know where their family members are they're missing and that's also posing a major concern for so many people because they're questioning which option is better Benita if their family members have been taken hostage or if they were killed and this is the reality that so many family members and friends are facing right now exactly not knowing where their loved ones are so the hostage situation is a very very critical one and as we see down south as the Israeli military is preparing for a ground invasion that makes the hostage situation that much more complicated and so that's why the family members the the friends those representing all of those that have been taken want to meet with these leaders such as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to make sure that the government is doing everything they can to get their loved ones out of the Gaza Strip as soon as possible and as safely as possible so right now as we speak that's exactly what's happening behind closed doors here at the home front command center an imaginable pain for those families not knowing this uncertainty certainly exacerbating an already traumatic situation correspondent Nicole Zedeck live from Rumley thank you very much for that update Nicole and as we continue with our coverage more sirens sounding in the southern communities near the Gaza border including in Nachal Oz that happening just seconds ago we keep on hearing about more and more sirens they all indicate rocket fire heading towards residential parts of Israel and now we speak to another survivor of Saturday's Hamas terror attack and we bring in Yair an IDF soldier who was wounded while on active duty he joins us from central Israel Yair thank you very much for speaking to us take us back to Saturday where exactly were you near Kibbutz Sufa tell us your story first of all hello I was based in Sufa in the in the base there in our military base just another weekend we were closing then 6 30 6 o'clock sirens start going and we're we're woken up to big big rockets and booms hitting our hitting our area we then go into shelter from there we're told that something serious has happened we must all go get our gear and and fight we do that and then just as I exit the front gate to go do what we need to do we'll open that up fire there were 10 terrorists there just started shooting at us we take cover behind this these big rocks that create this shape me and four of the friends off the bat my friend gets shot right in the thigh it goes all the way to his backside and then we're we enter a battle for an hour an hour and a half where they shot shot RPGs at us through grenades just had 10 times the weaponry I was in there wasn't a very even fight but we fought we were more accurate we were better we were smarter and we managed to kill a few and enough for them to decide that an alternative way into the base was the only way into the base yeah I understand you were wounded how are you doing how is your recovery yeah I was wounded one of the grenades hit me in a few different spots very very like wounds I've a couple in my head one in my chin that that they took out and there's one in my leg that is still healing and is the reason that I'm not able to go back yet it's a little infected but within a week or two please God I'll be I'll be back with my friends there are certainly many who will be watching this who will be shocked to hear you talk about when I go back I understand you only had 15 days left till the end of your service how do you feel about going back as this war continues so yeah definitely wasn't part of my plans all of this we already had a book Thailand you know my you know my mates but this is what it is we've already all accepted it and going back isn't obviously it's no one's dream to take part in these type of things but it's just what's right that's what's important and it's it's all there is you know we have one country one place for the Jewish people to be and it's not really if I want to if I'm feeling like it it's it's just happening it's it's what's right and what's important and your era it was obviously such a massive devastating knock on Saturday give us an understanding now as the next phase of this war seems to be falling into place the sentiment your understanding from within the IDF other soldiers how are they feeling what are their emotions like as the next phase looks set to start very soon the the the the general understanding between everyone is that it's we have to hit them and we have to hit them very very hard there must not be a Hamas after this this time too long have we been patient with them we they shoot their rockets they do their weekly terrorist attacks and we just take it um and no longer now is the now is the time where we are we are going to from what I understand we are going to we are going to eradicate Hamas um and uh that's just what we'll be yeah yeah from central Israel thank you very much for speaking to us thank you for sharing your story of course be safe and now we go to our correspondent Pierre Kloschendler he joins us from Storot in southern Israel so we are hearing more rocket alerts happening in several parts of the south update us from your perspective thank you Pierre there's a bad wind coming from the south of the security border from emanating from the Gaza Strip a bad wind of rockets rocket fire now it's in Nachal Oz which is a few kilometers down south of this city which is practically an abandoned city by its residents a city of 30 000 but probably 90 percent of the residents have left and there are some lonely cars driving as you've just seen or lonely walkers with a tormented gaze that are walking in in the city but you can see all the stores are closed the silence of the city is only punctuated by the booms of the shelling of the Gaza Strip right now by the alarm of one of the shop that was ignited probably by one of the explosions by the buzz of the uncrewed aerial vehicles that are patrolling the skies of Gaza and this is about it the city now is in the hands of the security forces and there is basically no residents that are staying in this city that has been hard hit earlier at around 11 a.m there was a direct hit on the house which burnt no casualties only damage because the residents had left already and yet as we're speaking to you Pierre we're seeing siren sounding in near Itzhak in near Amin several parts nearby obviously you say many of the residents in the southern communities have been evacuated nonetheless what is being made of the arsenal that Hamas still has the weapons capabilities it still has still nine days in and rocket fire sirens are becoming part of the daily norm I don't know figures about the arsenal of Hamas their short range mortar shells their rockets but they do have an arsenal what we sense is that they're trying to save that arsenal in the sense that the rocket fire is less intense that at the beginning of the war declared by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad so they're trying to to save those rockets for days to come probably this is why it's not a flurry of rockets usually it's just four five rockets and that's it but given that it's always dangerous to be in the streets like we are so where we are there is a protective shelter that Danielle will show you we're just next to it because we're 15 seconds away from the rocket fire three kilometers away from the Gaza Strip but most importantly 15 seconds away so here we are safe and the residents those who have decided to stay probably have a shelter because up until now they where there are buildings that do not have a proper private shelter in their homes thank you so much that is our correspondent pia kloschenler joining us live from starot in southern israel lots more to come of course from pia in the coming hours and we leave you with news just in we are hearing that israeli fighter jets are striking targets up north it's not exactly clear what those targets are but it follows the latest barrage of rockets up north hezbollah targets we are getting confirmation as we speak are being targeted that's after eight israelis were wounded in the latest rocket barrage up north that is happening right now as we speak israel is retaliating to that latest rocket barrage up north targeting hezbollah sites right now and that's where we end this breaking news edition i'm beneath the levine live in tel aviv stay tuned our coverage continues israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity this particular project with a gross capacity of 103.5 megawatt will be producing around 230 gigawatt hour of clean renewable energy per year here where they come to claim for the rain if in fact in these moments the global warming is affecting bolivia and not only bolivia but all over the world and we need rain for the reserve we have the right ingredients and we have to do the job and that if we have the right ingredients and we do the job that the faquita can be protected of the war in israel it's the ninth day and all eyes are on the inevitable ground invasion in the south and the possible escalation in the north we'll start off with i-24 news pierre clochan layer in the road southern israel pierre yes hi we're just hearing the booms of probably israeli shelling but earlier on there were alerts along the security border with the Gaza Strip like a bad wind starting from the south going to the center and then to the north since they wrote a house was directly hit and burnt uh at 11 am but it's been relatively quiet here we're going to go to the only shop we found that is still open because probably 90 percent of the civilians of this city of 30 000 inhabitants have left already and we're here and the only people that are here are russian-speaking people maybe foreign workers i don't know there is this man who's talking to a journalist and uh who told me earlier that he's just guarding his home his family has been uh sent to safer places uh the owner of the shop is around here uh mark mark is i-f mark he doesn't know how to tell me how he feels he just tells me how can we all feel i don't know what to do don't forget what happened a week ago i don't feel anything just tell the truth he says but basically what happened here eight police officers were killed uh the police station was raised we don't know about the number of civilians who were killed here they don't know i don't know i've been trying to reach the municipality they don't answer me right now but all the people that have remained probably 10 percent of the city of 30 000 inhabitants are people that are usually on social welfare they have nowhere to go they have nowhere with all many of them are single or if they're married they sent their family away here just around here you have security forces and basically this city has been invested by security forces army police and journalists this is the sad situation in Zderot with the remaining residents with a very tormented gaze Jacob yes thank you very much Pierre i think there's also some sorts of sirens around the area so take care of yourself and um guys really i'm a funny senator editor here in the studio let's recap uh some of the events of today with uh eyes to the north right quite a lot long and as you mentioned rockets in the south now mainly around the city of Ashkelon one of the biggest cities in the north of the Gaza Strip a barrage of rockets there sirens are heard Israelis are asked to remain in shelters but yes most of the events this afternoon are happening on the northern border nine rockets fired out of Lebanon into Israeli territory this afternoon five of them intercepted by the iron dome system in addition to that five anti-tank missiles fired towards Israeli territory the Hezbollah group claiming responsibility for at least some of them and we know of at least one Israeli civilian that was killed from one of those anti-tank missiles several other civilians uh were wounded and the gf is attacking all day long correct the idea of his responding with fire now towards these areas where the missiles were launched from and i can remind our viewers that we already have four Israeli soldiers killed this week just from these incidents with Hezbollah on the northern border in addition to everything that's happening in the south and of course these are quite dangerous those anti-tank missiles they're both very accurate and very deadly mad russian made and targeting usually Israeli tanks in this case they hurt civilians as well in addition we're reporting on an exchange of fire that's happening right now on the northern border the residents of the city of metulla were asked to remain locked up in their homes in fear of an infiltration of terrorists on the border the idea we know there is some and gay is some exchange of fire there right now the idea is checking whether there was an infiltration let's go now live to i-24 news honda silhout in the north with your view from there honda jacob several explosions heard in the distance as the Israeli military is currently striking Hezbollah positions inside lebanese territory we're hearing from the Israeli defense minister who says that israel is not interested in a war with Hezbollah saying quote we have no interest in the war in the north and we don't want to escalate the situation we heard earlier from Hezbollah a spokesperson releasing a statement saying that the exchanges of fire today the five different instances were just a warning and that they don't mean that Hezbollah is going to join the conflict exactly now there were also rockets that came in from southern lebanon the iron dome intercepting them the al-qasem brigades in southern lebanon claiming responsibility for that saying they fired around 20 but the Israeli military is saying it was around nine now a lot of tension remains here on the northern border with israel and lebanon as the Israeli military is currently engaged in gun battles reported in several different locations residents caution to stay indoors as this war is proving now to be a multi-front conflict honda thank you very much we'll get back to you later here in the studio with me amir oren a veteran military analyst are we getting closer to a full blown conflict in the north uh jacob may i answer something you didn't ask first uh politician um you're answering me with a question right um you know uh this may be too obvious for us here to even mention but it is worth uh telling our audience that here we are in jaffa a heavily arab part of televiv and hamas is rocketing jaffa as well as all other towns cities settlements in israel regardless of the makeup of the population they don't discriminate between jews muslims christians when they launch their rockets so it is worth at least as a footnote just uh to mention it now what is happening up north first of all it is obviously good for his bala as well as their iranian mentors to have israel mobilize 350 000 troops for the foreseeable future if they can put israel on edge to keep it and have israel being distracted from the south because of the fear of a second front why not they probably don't want to escalate right now because the israeli defense forces and everyone else are ready for them they would like to initiate something uh as a surprise first blow they also probably don't want to go to israel into attacking his bala for fear that israel will use it as a step ladder the first the bottom um stage is gaza the second stage is lebanon and then leapfrog to iran so they would like as a token contribution to the palestinian struggle to do whatever they are doing up north which we just heard but not too much not yet not yet but still we've seen an escalation of sorts today there's no doubt about that yes in in normal times this would have been enough for israel to go on a major operation but right now it is not opportune right now israel has to take care of hamas because these are the declared war aims to uproot hamas um and topple its uh rule and get rid of the leaders and having said that right of course uh whole previous assumptions about hamas were fault as we just saw last week we just last week we heard so many idf commanders saying hamas is no interest in war so also with regards to his bala attacking now we should take everything under proportion there's always that possibility especially when the idf is so heavily involved but tomorrow tomorrow we may have another commentary we are only in the business of commentary uh in the news if we are wrong we are not intelligence chiefs they may pay with their careers they cannot be wrong of course they are sometimes sure uh back to the south about 30 000 residents of sderot were evacuated today here are some of them we live in sderot because of the situation it's very dangerous here we're waiting to leave to a lot because terrorists especially because terrorists it's no picnic to live here the feeling is not good the kids are traumatized they're not sleeping at night to return here i will because my child is in nursery at the hospital no other choice but i believe that when he is released from the nursery we won't be here we go through this for some years unfortunately my children were born into this situation and this is how we go on yeah the civilian prize is unbelievable this time we are joined by Ruth Wasserman lander a former knesset member um Ruth 126 families were told by idf that their relatives are hostages inside gaza how will israel deal with this issue first of all uh yeah kovat like to say that um the situation is absolutely unbelievable um and uh almost unprecedented in the world um where little children women uh grandmothers uh civilians unarmed civilians who were viciously attacked on saturday um are held hostage i'd just like to remind the world that this is what we're talking about so these are not um armed civilians i'm talking about families of hostages who are civilian um how is this going to be taken care of first of all these uh a special unit uh set up um uh a person who is appointed by the prime minister has taken um the responsibility over overseeing that each and every family has one or two or three people taking care of the civilian needs and uh army personnel taking care of any information that is relevant to their loved ones um more than that of course uh is better left unsaid this is not something that will be discussed over the media but i'd just like to say that the um the situation i'm personally volunteering in this uh specific unit in order to be in touch with the families um the situation for these families in terms of their um emotional state is of course it's difficult to describe the um it's inhumane as i said and the viciousness of the situation is something that uh israel has never experienced before not even in the yom kippur war yeah um on that issue um on here here in the studio um operationally um the idf and other branches of the security apparatus here in israel i have to operate inside gaza at the same time try to maybe negotiate something let's look at the president of entebbe uh the rabbin government um when it negotiated with the hostage takers who were protected by idiamine's uh soldiers first of all gave in to the demands because they couldn't withstand the fury of the family and because they didn't have good answers for what would have happened if the hostages started executing the hostage takers started executing hostages and then the government would have surrendered and then the families would have asked what about our loved ones who were already executed it was only when the hostage takers extended their ultimatum the deadline that the military operation became feasible now at that time when there were 100 hostages similar to the number here the government um took into account the possibility that 10 or 20 either hostages or of the rescuing force could be killed it seemed like a terrible but acceptable ratio here now if it uh became possible to gather intelligence and to plan an operation in which not all of the hostages survived and not all of the members of the elite units charged with the mission they probably would have done it but short of that and if they even know where the hostages have been taken to dispersed uh perhaps with Hamas leaders in order to serve as human shields or human vests as the case may be the government will have to negotiate and this is probably what secretary Blinken is coming to Israel from Qatar and Saudi Arabia tomorrow to do because you can see the outline of a possible deal in which the Hamas leadership would be spared the execution which the IDF is preparing for them they could be expelled evicted to Qatar or Turkey in return for the safe passage of the hostages and perhaps including a full release of prisoners from Israeli jails um uh that's the first time i'm hearing about a possibility of the Hamas leadership staying around they so far correct me if i'm wrong the talk was about women versus women wishful thinking yeah that's wishful thinking sorts of reports about possible mediation suggestions by Qataris by the Egyptians Hamas learned the lesson of hafez Assad after the al-Kippur war everything has a price the list of prisoners their condition medical supplies then the release of the wounded or elderly children in this case and eventually the release of the others for everything Israel will have to pay in the syrian case israel withdrew from the Kounetra area which it conquered in 1967 and here too Hamas if it has these bargaining chips it is not going to give anything just for Biden's blue eyes or brown whatever they might be let me bring in mr. Amjata from the british middle east center thank you very much for joining us um what are the reunification for the middle east uh in all of this for for the Arab world in all of this i mean first of all i would like to convey you my condolence to the people of Israel for for the lives they lost at the hand of those savage Hamas terrorists i would like to also say to the Israeli people that the world has changed most of the arab and the muslim world has have changed and we firmly and strongly stand with the people of israel against those savage iran-backed is like terrorists and we are very saddened at this time about what's happening in in in gaza in israel where we see that Hamas has not only kidnapped children but also burned women and killed elders from israel and now they are blocking the people of gaza from moving out of the war zone i think how the middle east looks at this there's a crime there is there is a peace there is a militias terrorist militia as a fact israel and israel has the right to defend itself how will the Arab world uh split on this can we define the moderates and the extremists once and for all if you know what i mean i mean let me uh it depends uh let's how we can look at this for example let's look what's happening inside gaza now we know we understand that yesterday Hamas has bombed people on the evacuation route in gaza they literally the explosion was was caused by Hamas homemade designed that bomb to to link it to israel and intimidate those who are following the instruction because they need them they will use them as the human shield the bomb blasted on the bridge of over where why the gaza aimed to block in and the exit routes to northern gaza now a lot of the media are of media uh they they had this they distributed this uh such uh uh and they were playing there the same video again and again even though they knew the truth that that that uh it was it was Hamas who made this and those are the media outlets to be honest they should be ashamed of themselves for distributing iranian propaganda the same iranian propaganda by the way that they tackle in syria in yemen in iraq in lebanon yet when it comes to israel they buy it somehow instead of asking why hamas does it uh this they they just play it and another look the questions the the the way the arab people are thinking right now and a lot of people who are following on this first they have two messages yes we stand in unity with with both israel and the people of gaza against this ruthless palestinian terrorists too we do understand what's happening we're not like him the ones who are just following on the media al jazeera the the audience and the population of the arab world is not what al jazeera is talking is speaking about talking about from what i understand for example israel has urged the citizens to evacuate its own citizens to evacuate uh from from areas and cities near near gaza even though there was there was an air of caution in the atmosphere however when israel extended the same call to the palestinian people to move from north to south with international efforts working to create a humanitarian corridor for all some criticize it and guess what they called it force displacement apparently unconcerned about the army rolling ensuring a human safety combatant terrorists in in gaza and and preventing civilians from becoming caught in conflict on both sides i mean if there is a building burning and someone asks you to to to evacuate is that force displacement excuse me this is saving your life but then but then we do we do have the palestinian lobby that has a tighter grip on on on some of our media arab media than than my grandma's holds on her secret cookies jar stash they labeled the word the what the palestinian terrorists and hezbollah did in syria from displacement force displacement and with no combatant for of any terror as what they called it back then they called it evacuation but when israel says hey let's get out of the battlefield zone in gaza it's suddenly it's called the force displacement it's it's it's like they want a front row seat for a chaos or cheering for till iran and islet region when the question raises a lot of people in the in the social media arab media are asking why the arab correspondent in israel they haven't met any of the families of those families in israel those families of babies who who were killed by hamas and none of them were ready to even expose yesterday's video which hamas literally used a doll and he said that that was a baby killed by israel and then they deleted it immediately from their webpage why the arab media some of the arab media didn't cover or mention that there's a lot of question there's a lot of questions i'm just thank you very much for that i'm going to go back to you ruth uh you have been following the uh the world especially the gulf states uh what do you think would be the reaction the day after so first i think that we need to look at what's happening um not only um with the gulf the arab gulf states but also with countries that are closer to us and it's very important to put things into context egypt for example has closed its borders to palestinian refugees despite the fact that uh egypt has always propagated a pro-palestinian approach this is uh something that needs to be discussed perhaps not in the media but with leverages from the international arena in order to perhaps allow the palestinians that are held hostage i'm talking about the uh civilians that live in the gaza strip they're held hostage by the hamas as well my colleague just said um that the hamas is preventing from civilians from palestinian civilians from escaping from the regions where the idf will be bombarding and the idf is warning those civilians in order for them to escape and in order to save their lives but the hamas is preventing that allowing these palestinian safe passage into egypt temporarily with um security and promises from the international arena that this is indeed temporary until the fighting will be over and then they will be rehabilitated again in the gaza strip is something that at the moment the egyptians will not hear of and this is something to take into account likewise with jordan now the vast population is very much in favor as amjad taha i said the vast population in the arab muslim world is uh perhaps aghast at the heinous crimes that were perpetrated on saturday by the hamas operatives which were literally inhumane the massacre the burning the raids the beheading of babies the insanity that was going on there at this point uh Ruth let's take a listen uh secretary of state is speaking of course jordan uh Bahrain cutter the united arab emberates saudi arabia now here in egypt and the purpose of um seeing all of our partners was first and foremost to listen to them to hear how they're seeing this crisis and to look at what we can do together uh to deal with many of the concerns that it's raised what i've heard from virtually every partner was a determination a shared view yeah this is secretary of state uh anthony blinkin on a tour here uh in the middle east back to you Ruth uh on the day after uh do you foresee an effort by golf states and other maybe uh modern nations uh to get gaza back on track some sort of a marshal plan or something like that right so the reason why i was giving the context is because it has to do with the day after the day after would need the cooperation of egypt jordan the gulf states and the palestinian authority in the west bank because something needs to be put as a kind of a leadership in place of the vacuum that is going to be there after you know eliminating the the uh the the terrorists that actually uh took hostage of that uh of that piece of land and i'd like to mention that this is a complex situation because the palestinian authority now is providing finances to each and every family of a killed hamats operative now this is important to understand this is a reason and this is the money that the international arena is giving the palestinian authority that's not to say that the palestinian palestinians in the west bank do not need the social welfare the infrastructure the employment opportunities they do but again there's an issue with the leaderships turning away the money to terrorism and to things that are not conducive to peace and that has to do with the day after so what needs to happen and this is something that the the countries in the abraham accord's agreement and the united states are talking about and are trying to concoct how do we get a leadership that will truly not only rehabilitate gaza physically but truly take care of the palestinian people not in the manner that they were not taken care of until today by a leadership which is either corrupt or terrorist driven this is insanity that the region is inside and will continue to be in unless there is a true comprehensive solution and this is something that all the countries in the region not only will gain from because of the stability and the prosperity that it will allow but they need to lend a hand in the making of israel cannot do it alone okay ruth was on lander thank you very much for that um guy you have some quotes from the secretary several updates let's start with anthony blinkin speaking there in the termack he's saying the u.s. supports israel both with words and with actions israel has the duty to defend itself and prevent the returning of this event also an update on the story we reported on at the start of the show that exchange of fire in the north that fear infiltration while that event is over it seems that was errant fire and there was no infiltration from the north i'd like to speak a little bit about gaza well we heard just this afternoon the israeli government admitting that he it has enabled the supply of water to southern gaza we have a quote from israeli um energy minister israel cuts and he's explaining uh that decision saying the decision to open the water at a specific point for the residents of southern the southern gaza strip was agreed upon between netanyahu and president biden and it goes together with our policy that enables to strengthen the general siege the unprecedented siege on gaza without power without water without fuel until we eradicate hamas obviously doesn't really go with that uh with that policy but there was to give incentives to the residents of northern gaza to go south where they can have water i guess that's part of it uh meanwhile all the time rockets and sirens in southern israel i-24 news mary mccullough is in uh barzilla hospital mary hi there yes we are inside the barzilla hospital just in ash columb maybe about 30 minutes ago we saw a massive rocket barrage from gaza overhead we saw numerous interceptions by the iron dome we saw the medical teams were responding we still don't have any official confirmation about if there were any direct hits from rockets but we are seeing some imagery and reports coming out that some rockets might have fallen inside the city but again we don't yet have information about any of the injuries now but i just to show you what's going on in ash columb that this continues to be an area that has been hard hit we are in the barzilla hospital right behind me you can see this wing connecting two different wings of the hospital that was hit earlier in this week the damage still very apparent luckily at the time there were no injuries because this entire area had been evacuated after the war broke out and to bring them to a safer part of the hospital most of this hospital is a shelter so people present patients who are here and hospital workers can continue to work even while there are rockets overhead that they don't have to stop what they're doing go places so they moved everybody from this area into a safer part of the hospital but we'll walk inside just to show you some of the damage here and this was a part of the hospital that served they had women's organizations here they had children units here all of the shattered glasses on the window we can see walking through this hallway almost all of the windows have been completely blown out it's a bit dark so hopefully we can see a bit you can see most of the windows have been blown out there's still shattered glass all throughout the floor adam shulman behind the camera we'll just point down there so you can see we won't walk too far that way because they say it is still quite dangerous here it's very unsteady this bridge that was connecting two different parts of the hospital of course this part of the hospital is now completely unusable even when after this is all over and the rocket sirens stop in the city of ashkelon it will take some time to get this part of the hospital back up and running all right mary thank you very much at bersler hospital in ashkelon thank you madam call 514 news hamas is trying to block citizens from leaving southern gaza here's the head of the hamas political leadership ismael haniel not there there will be no migrating from gaza and no migrating from the west bank no migrating from gaza to egypt and here i would also like to salute the stance of our siblings in egypt who maintain that egypt is indeed a country and is our sibling and a refuge and is welcoming to the palestinian people but not on the grounds of migration or displacement and neither of us can accept that and i say to my siblings in egypt our decision is to stay with our country so your decision is our decision and standing here in the face of the Zionist plan that is supported by the american administration we will make it fail god willing so back to you omir and here in the studio he releases statements still for how long well we we see that ismael ania is still alive so mark the time it's 6 30 or so on a sunday october the 15 let's see whether these are famous last words or whether he still has some gas left in it but you know 12 and a half years ago on april the 7 2011 was the maiden launch and intercept of iran dome and obviously it has had a fantastic record 90 plus of intercept but it is not perfect so it turns out that the biggest fans of iran dome are in the hamas why because had they not believed in the effectiveness of iran dome they wouldn't have dead launched towards jerusalem it can hit a laxah and if these muslim rocketeers they're fired towards jerusalem obviously they trust iran dome to intercept it what happens if the iran dome doesn't who is going to be blamed yeah uh is he safe in katar not only is he safe in katar for now because katar also hosts al ode the very important american base but he may be the vanguard for other members of the hamas leadership if they are evicted and as part of a deal but it doesn't mean that if they leave katar they are safe and immune on the contrary they may be only safe in katar and in excel sort of a devil's island right yes two comments one about the iran dome of course saving so many human lives of israeli civilians over the past decade but many would also argue that the iran dome is the fact that we reached this point iran dome has enabled israel to live next to gaza gave israel a sense of confidence maybe a full one absolutely it enabled israel to live next to a thriving islamist radical terror group that wants to annihilate the state of israel it created that false sense of security for israeli civilians while hamas was not keeping quiet well he had other plans for targeting israelis as for the comment about indiscriminate targeting of israelis of people by the rockets well that ground in invention that infiltration that onslaught that we saw on saturday yes it did hurt many civilians of other countries and also of other religions but let this be very clear the ideology of hamas is nazi like that ideology of wanting to slaughter israelis for being jewish this is not the case isis hamas does not plan to target egyptians because egypt blocks the rafa crossing let us be very clear this is an ideology targeting jewish people and that is the biggest onslaught of jews since the holocaust and the world must not forget that right david makovsky is joining us now thank you very much let's talk a little bit about the american angle you know there's a bipartisan mission here in israel now of senators uh maybe finally they can agree on something uh how long will israel have that line of credit from the united states to act in gaza well it's a great question it's going to be with you uh it's too soon to know i just think the more israel is able to distinguish between hamas and gazans the longer the more breathing space i mean to me what was striking you just showed that clip of ishmael hania telling the people not to move but by all accounts hundreds of thousands of gazans have defied hamas and have gone to the south and now people say well there might be some hamas people meld in with them yes i'm sure but it shows that israel is trying to make that distinction and it shows that the people of gaza are starting to lose their fear of hamas and think the israeli threats are more credible we haven't seen this before uh this to me i think is is huge news and the more successful this move is a moving people to the south and getting out of harm's way uh i think it's it's that's will give israel more space so i hope israel keeps making that effort to find a way for civilians in the southern part of the country i know it's important to the president who has been fantastic in his support of israel but has always added that word about the rules of war and uh blinkin has said in his comments jake sullivan this morning on the tv new the sunday tv news shows uh so i think this is the key and i know it's not hermetic people die innocents die in war but the more efforts you make the the more um the the it's the moral thing to do and it will give israel more breathing space in the united states i've seen some reports that uh american officials are a bit worried that there's no plan for the day after uh are they i think there there's a certain nervousness you certainly don't want to talk about it too soon publicly because it could impact the fighting itself uh i think we've got to think creatively about uh options uh the arab world i think needs to be somehow a part of this day after approach you know could this mean i'm just throwing it out as a maybe i'm not saying for sure some sort of egyptian uh interim trusteeship until the pa is ready to take over israel has to know there's somebody solid on the arab side that will focus on rebuilding and not on terrorism egypt certainly has always viewed gaza as political quicksand never has wanted to get involved no one is saying that egypt should take over in any uh uh final sense but i think you need some sort of interim effort by the arabs to until the pa is ready and that might take years and that means working closely with israel israel has no territorial ambitions on gaza but it just wants to be safe it doesn't want to live with like an ices next door and i think that's very understandable right stay with us david i want to um ask you amir about the day after you know the americans in the u.s uh military they have what they call a phase four plan for stability uh stabilizing operations and starting reconstruction however they have been burned by nation building and they don't want to repeat the mistakes of iraq of afghanistan of libya of somalia so many other kinds so they don't want to be responsible for whatever happens in gaza it is possible to get donations contributions from japan from some european countries from the united emirates however on provided that they don't see another round in a few years where everything gets back to rubble and and that means that there will have to be a grand compromise a grand deal in which not only will israelis feel secure but there will be no need to retaliate in a few years time against gaza and go back to the whole vicious circle david uh inside the united states uh do you see an optic in anti-semitism in universities colleges towns and cities yeah but campuses are their own kind of micro system ecosystem i visited 173 college campuses and you they're not all the same they're very different i know in israel it's all the campuses are burning down it's not exactly like that but there's no doubt it's going to get much harder last week there were vigils in support of israel and most camp in many of the campuses and i think it's going to get tougher when the images on cnn and other cable um are going to show the ground war and gaza so that's going to be hard it is true um yakov that the that the jewish community is taking steps uh when some former leader from us had about a day of rage suddenly there was police protection of synagogues and and the president speaks about this openly um so but i wouldn't get um you know i wouldn't take this to an extreme i think people are taking precautions but there's no sign right now that i see quantitatively of uh you know in terms of a of a of a surge in anti-semitism but you have to always take precautions the progressive wing of the democratic party um i don't need to ask anything you just go go ahead go ahead no no i tell you know what's the question are they gonna change or uh are they going to uh get more traction in the party how do you see it this is i mean this is why the president's statements in my point uh my part was so important because yes they reflected moral clarity yes they reflected empathy yes they reflected true material assistance with the aircraft carriers iron don't interceptors ammunition etc uh but and then they reflected a sense that he gets the dna of zionism you know that defense that stateless jews are defenseless jews and there's no israel no jew is safe all that's true those four factors that made the president's remarks so remarkable were true but the fifth point is he was willing to incur a political cost and i think right now some of these certainly some of the squad members have kind of you know been more nervous of being too outspoken right after a story of women being raped and babies beheaded and uh but what i don't know is to what extent that the the media focus now shifts to a brown war in gaza i expect we're going to hear more of them and i think the president will stay strong uh he won't allow let's say a security council resolution to pass but if he feels and gets back to my earlier remarks that if is israel is not seen as taking precautions on um distinguishing between hamas and and the gaza i think um you know the more progressives are going to be the help you know are going to be more vocal and the president privately privately will will say hey what's going on here so i think he's he's taking a strong stand no matter what some of these progressives say but i think he's going to be you know he might be more in the defensive if a ground operation lasts too long how you define too long is yet to be seen right that's a big question uh david makovsky thank you very much no i'll be with you thank you i'm here you know the uh congressional black caucus is moving a bit to the center also hakim jeffreys uh has been elected a minority leader and could be the next speaker that's good news and apac obviously is trying to help those more centrist um black uh candidates or serving carmen however if you look at joe biden he is probably the last great zionist in the white house we will not see his kind anymore um no one else born in 1940s let's not talk about donald trump that's another case but no one else born in the 40s seeing israel uh being in israel even in 1973 no one else is going to emerge on the american political scene so we have to enjoy it and use as much as we can of it and also consider his constraints to that point exactly cnn survey just released today uh checking israel's military response to hamas attacks fully justified by age well uh strong support for 65 years and older 81 in support when you go down to 50 to 64 years old 80 uh sorry 56 between 35 to 49 years old 44 support and then when you go down to 18 to 34 the support goes down to 27 percent that's the difference 27 percent to 81 percent in the higher age uh limit that's incredible number very worrying i think survey for israel not that this is anything new nonetheless uh the younger generation is not there yet yeah yeah thank you for that we've been kept debated by the personal stories in this uh terrible times now let's listen to the unbelievable story of professor if tach kebner who saved his brother's life uh thank you very much for joining us professor um take us to uh that black saturday nine days ago how how did it all start cover seven saturday morning we were supposed to be very quiet and peaceful place peaceful morning in the beautiful place where we live in in an absurd village that is called an or tech or or school region we're supposed to be quiet the people who's doing their office agriculture their job or just waking up in a very peaceful life in a beautiful place but unfortunately with a massive missile attack they are mass terrorists force the international border to a different country who murder who raped and to do such animalities what what was the purpose of doing that and then is no tell me your personal your personal story from your eyes then hell started so we live in a place with about a thousand people live in in the past few months we had a car stolen a massive car stolen we decided to expand uh and people that shouldn't be reacting response and in case of security issue and then get expanded to a 68 people that are ready to react to avoid car stolen and it was happened a few times so we were well prepared when it happened in october set so this was a group got a message and go and fans could stop something as big as going on we all jumped to the fence and the gate and then the Hamas terrorist came into the main gate luckily my brother decided and to close the gate it was literally standing them standing in front of the Hamas the pickup in front of 15 heroes that was well prepared with with our PG without weapons way more than what we had and luckily he was able to fight to give them a fight and with the pistols with the with his other friends and in this competition and he gave me a call i got shot in my shoulder please come pick me up i have to go to the hospital i'm not an MD but i'm a professor of the faculty of medicine and i see the bullet got in from the shoulder but no i don't see any evidence of the bullet going off so i'm realizing you can go through the lung through the stomach with the liver and it's a severe medical condition that has to be actually in hospital as much as as fast as possible so we go from the big gate on the east side of the village and we go to the road to the off-road that merging with the with the main road go to the hospital to the Serova hospital and then he told me be careful there might be many more out of them watch out so we get closer to the road i'm looking the left side it look clear but when i'm turned to the right side when the way to the hospital yako i'm i'm sitting in front of myself about it i don't know 500 feet on my eyes unrealistic it was like illusion to pick up truck with about 10 Hamas terrorists in each of one of them five inside five outside and about five more cycles doing it so it's approximately 30 Hamas terrorists literally in front of me they take me back in the to to understand what actually i'm seeing but when i they start the massive shooting on the car i had i had not a driving but i had a test i was three so i'm going backward about 40 miles per hour where two motorcycles trying to to catch me i'm going backward really really fast be able very likely to lose the u-turn while there's a massive shooting by water yelling i got hit again and we luckily go back to the mushaf and yelling in in in the whatsapp group a man voice message that we got hit again and we have to get a rescue to get him to the hospital as fast as possible it's such a piece of luck in the story there was an ambulance in the place we live and without a driver so one of the guy went to get a key he came back with his with his ambulance and we went through the off road about about one hour off road and the backside of our village until we find the safety road to hit the main road so we took a step about one hour almost two hours to get to the hospital so we got shot in two different areas two different places in in with an unrealistic rescue journey and luckily he's he's had a surgery a few days ago he's now better and better he's better unbelievable what can i say uh if talk again thank you very much for sharing this with us thank you can i can i see one can i see one more thing please sure we live in mushaf and abso the mushaf and abso was passed part of the m m 1982 peace agreement it was only sent here in 1982 i'm promise to anyone everyone that this place will be stronger stay here and we keep support the agriculture of israel as we did and even better thank you very much thank you guy it's difficult to hear these stories and myself just this morning i happened to be at one of the hotels one of the centers where the survivors of this massacre met where the community of kibbutz mefal sim was reunited today they initially was were taken to various spots and today they all came together to the same hotel for the first time all these people meeting each other after the trauma that they've experienced it was hard to stop the tears watching people meeting the people who saved their lives and we are getting rockets on televieve right now as we speak there's a rocket alarm in televieve right now is where the residents in televieve are asked to run to shelters we can see there are staff behind us in studio running to shelter right now as all civilians need to do i'll just complete that story yeah there are horrors that all of these people have experienced was very touching to see the people who saved their lives meeting them for the first time those members of the security unit of the kibbutz were able to stay off the terrace and now as we speak there's a massive barrage of rockets all over israel at this point from the south until televieve and the towns around televieve as well so people are running to shelters right now we probably heard some intercepts uh-huh in the distance right not not a very clear thunder but we did hear the noise right still sirens around the center of the country and and center of televieve and around it's usually happens late happens later like at 9 p.m. or so but it's not instead of 9 it's not in addition to it's just the beginning is it never right never is a bad time to kill some jews some israelis that is the strategy of hamas we're hearing some more bangs in the air obviously interceptions um it's a real barrage of rockets more than more than a few quite a few booms exploding over our heads i'm not sure if our viewers can hear it yeah that's a live shot of televieve the skies of televieve right now uh a little cloudy and it was raining today so uh it as opposed to um previous days uh you cannot clearly see in 1991 when the first scuds hit televieve people believed that it was just a thunderstorm yeah this was the missiles in the this was just the first instance of missiles hitting televieve right now it's almost a routine but you know if i still have a few moments to yeah um as long as we get away from that awful saturday the impact recedes yes we hear the stories of the survivors and the plight of the hostages and we keep hearing the missiles and the intercept however it is not a fresh story and you're an expert on the media you know what the top story in the new york times right now is baseball baseball it's october the playoffs world series so and this this uh is now uh below the fault of course remember what happened uh year ago ukraine right 600 days yeah where is ukraine you know it's uh it's it's life we we are well aware of that uh so uh we are still uh looking at televieve now and the whole center of israel under uh rockets and sirens no report of casualties no report of casualization reports of interceptions so far understand um and uh we are just uh you know waiting for the clear the clearance for everybody to come back here people are coming back uh perhaps another tragedy of course of this conflict and of israel's uh conflict with with hamas in particular in gaza is the fact that for so many years most of these rockets in most instances were directed at israel's south and to ashkelon ashdod and of course the border communities that helped both the israeli government but i think the israeli public in general to look away at this problem and say okay it's maybe a regional a very territorial problem there in the south not something that impacts the state of israel well all of that really blew up in our faces yeah we have to stop meeting god this way said the iron dome missile yeah to the hamas rocket yeah that that that is something that will have to change dramatically in the israeli psyche uh you know very well the military you know the uh strategy this is the most searing experience in israel's history ever including all previous wars this is uh something unlike any other experience image impact we ever had yeah we will have uh to uh to see to see what what's the impact and then of course there's the question of his behind the north which is uh basically the same thing only bigger yeah but regardless to make it clear to our viewers the impact of what happened were transpired on the saturday uh that was a watershed moment not just in the history of the conflict with hamas or no with the palestinians but a watershed moment in the history of the state of israel and israeli civilians the israeli citizens will not forgive an israeli government this government that is in power right now or any future government if it enables a situation like this to repeat this is a trauma that israelis will not be willing to tolerate again the human suffering the casualties of more than 1300 israelis slaughtered by hamas terrorists uh up to 200 of them kidnapped at the hands of these radical uh muslims of uh of hamas the people of israel will not agree to live under that threat anymore this is something that will have to change yakov lavin is with us now a military analyst we want to talk about the impact of things on the israeli mindset and also the prospects of escalations uh while we're seeing interceptions in the air of uh is this dilaviv what are we seeing uh yakov lavin are you with us i am with you yes all right so uh do you see an escalation coming well it depends on how you define escalation but if we're talking about a ground offensive to the gaza strip in order to demolish uh the hamas terrorist army and political regime i think that's completely inevitable and could happen anytime it seems like the security cabinet is going over the final versions of what that ground operation could look like there are of course multiple versions uh that the idea of general staff will be presenting to the cabinet will be recommending to the cabinet but the decision will be the cabinets and in the staging areas on the border with the gaza strip the idea has amassed very large numbers of forces as we know armored infantry artillery uh engineering corps etc and and they're waiting you know they're waiting for the green light so that phase seems to be inevitable and i would say that we are now at the end of the beginning of the gaza war the end of the beginning yeah and or the beginning of the beginning because i'm back to you amir uh people here are talking in terms of months some even more impossible impossible because 350 000 reservists have been called up the economy will grind to a halt uh nerves will be wrecked uh it's uh easy and perhaps uh it's even effective for psychological warfare uh impact on the other side to talk about weeks and months and occupation but it's surreal it won't happen even though Israel has gone on operations for even 50 days uh in 2014 uh these were mostly regular forces conscripts and very few reservists Israel cannot send into battle three four five divisions made up of reservists for long periods without breaking the entire country apart it must do it if there is an existential threat but not in order to take care of two relatively minor threats like Hamas and Hezbollah regardless of the fact that Hamas managed to murder 1300 Israelis i i don't necessarily think that the the israeli public would agree with that uh assumption of yours for most israelis that you ask uh anyone on the streets or or in or in service if you hold them this is a reality that cannot continue that cannot be allowed and the israeli public from many people we speak to and we hear also that we interview here every day for the past week are saying to the government do whatever it takes to eradicate this threat right but amir said it before when time passes things may change um yakov Lapin back to you um how will israel change after all this i think it will change in every way um i think militarily the fact that um tragically false and wrong assumptions guided the intelligence community when it comes comes to Hamas and dare i say Hezbollah regarding the ability to deter these entities which prove to be Hamas's case non-existent regarding the ability to manage and stabilize them which prove to be non-existent i think all of these assumptions will pretty quickly be thrown to the side thrown and thrown into the garbage can the idea of um co-existing alongside islamist entities that build up military terrorist capabilities i think will also be consigned to the dustbin of history um when it comes to you know political changes i have no idea but i have no doubt that there will be widespread political changes and of course in terms of society you know we're dealing with a national trauma uh which presses on all of the buttons it's israel's darkest moment most difficult moment and of course you know we'll be seeing the effects of this for for generations well uh what you're saying means getting into lebanon with Hezbollah that's what it is that it's there already um look the idea that Hezbollah is deterred i think uh i personally am not convinced of that assumption at all if we look at their behavior and and you know these attempts to tell them that they're about to make a mistake um it Hezbollah knows what it's doing Hezbollah knows what the risks are and it's still firing anti-tank missiles from from lebanon into israel so i think we really need to update our thinking our concepts about these islamist radical um entities they are not scared of war they believe that they can take over the ruins of the places that they have governed in the past and that they can grow stronger that they can build a better figure um and i'm sorry at this point uh we'll cut to the families of the hossages speaking in tel Aviv guy what are they saying the adults the youths the children the women all of them without difference of sex or religion we need to do this immediately none of the targets will come on top of the other we established at the same time a headquarter with endless abilities and info with hundreds of family members and volunteers and experts we work on this for eight days we're in touch with the israel with a national system we managed to sometimes we do not agree with them but we do everything to bring our loved ones back the whole of the people of israel supports us we cannot handle the amount of volunteers we cannot respond to the amount of people that want to help us we are dedicated solely to this goal to bring our loved ones home as quickly as possible are you satisfied with the answers you received from the prime minister my name is du diesel manovich the moment i understood what has transpired i took everyone i know everything i have entire floors in a tel Aviv tower dedicated all the work it brought every expert needed will bring people from mars if needed all the experts in order to help ourselves we're all family members to stand to this task where we have difficult experiences some of us fall along the way because they're being told that there's no one to bring back anymore but we continue because there's no other way we are not willing we're not willing to be we came and there's not before not after not about matara there is one goal and bring them back as quickly as possible not on account of any other goal unlike all the statements about what will come first etc we do not replace the state we do not know to answer all the questions we will do whatever is possible in order to bring them back in the best state possible we're working to deliver medicines to those who at need we can bring we can help we can bring information we do not know what state they're in the prime minister met with us within hours after speaking to him all right so uh basically there was a first meeting between Israeli prime minister and the family's guy just a minutes ago it ended and they said they got a promise that this would be one of the goals of the war to release the ostriches a point that was not 100 clear beforehand not only that it contradicts what the national security advisor tzachia negbi said last night last night he said it is impossible to negotiate with someone you are out to eradicate which sounds logical but was devastating to the families what netanyahu said to them according to the families is in a way going back on what hanegbi recounted as a worry now there is some logic to what hanegbi did not say in 2006 when israel set the return of the two abducted soldiers regev and goldwasser as a war aim and it failed it meant that its war campaign failed now netanyahu under pressure by the families also set this goal and it is very effective for the families to have set up their organization because they can present demands that the israeli government wouldn't when they meet with blinken for instance they will probably meet him tomorrow when he returns to israel they can put their demands their requests their what mr zalmanovic just said regarding the medical supplies they can conduct a sort of non-official negotiation while the israeli government keeps its distance officially but in effect the israeli government will be behind it yeah also you know when netanyahu said this to the families he can he can say a lot of things and it means that when you are planning the military operation you cannot go where they may be you cannot send your armored column to a place where they might be held isn't this obvious even the obvious must be said explicitly all right guy it's an impossible dilemma for the israeli defense establishment for the israeli government on the one hand saving human lives is a prime priority of a state like israel of a country that has done so much to return its its citizens and its soldiers in the past of the of course well remember what has been done in order to release gilal chalit the israeli soldier captive in gaza just over 10 years ago and nonetheless i do not go back from the other statements i made here and that is that the israeli public is willing to do whatever he takes to eradicate humas's military capabilities can that be done at the same time as maintaining the lives of the israeli captives there will be very difficult to do and israel is not the only actor here for president biden this is being framed as the hostage crisis yes there is israel against humas but for the president with some 20 americans or dual nationals but nevertheless carrying american passports held in gaza it's a hostage crisis and he must bring them home and i think very important again to remind our viewers we are talking about kidnapped israelis as young as nine months old babies we saw we saw this heartbreaking pictures of a mother holding on to her two toddlers in her hands covered in a blanket taken away by humas terrorists the uh these are not just israeli soldiers kidnapped in in battle these are innocent civilians babies elderly people taken away made of medicine as mr. salmanovic mentioned we have not seen any atrocities of these sorts anywhere else in the world when it comes to kidnapped civilians and the world needs to remember this there is no precedent to this yeah also there were some reports surfaced now in israeli media about a mediation move between the states katar about the women and children something like that we cannot verify one of many reports israel itself has not confirmed any of these obviously efforts are being made the u.s wants to release at least its citizens wants to make an effort at least for the women and children we have not heard from the israeli government mercy that's an oxymoron yeah okay now um survival story with us now is a reserve lieutenant colonel yosi tubu thank you very much for joining us uh first of all how are you and according to situation i will say that i'm good fine okay uh take us to saturday how was it from your uh perspective okay so at the saturday morning i'm and i have a call that there is an emergency situation at the south i'm at the reserve and i took my uniform i took my gun and my private car i'm going to my unit uh during the way i get a text message from all the kind of security uh citizens that send me a message about the situation there about the problem with the terrorists i understand that it's uh it's very difficult uh combat going to be and but i didn't recognize and didn't realize what i'm going to to see and when i get to a road two three two this is the road the main road that cross from the north to the west to the south uh eight terrorists come out from the trees and start shooting in my car you can see my car now this is the after the event when i come back after three days i found my car there this is how she looks i don't know how the car didn't hit me but it made the car stop uh because the engine failed so i get down take my weapon and shooting back on the terrorist and there was a nuchba unit have all the defense all the m16 scolache and everything with them and i succeed to hit one of them and he fell down and then i uh understand that i don't have enough ammo to deal with this situation so i ran to the to the east side of the road and run during my run they made the continue to run after me and shoot and i see all the bullet just going to my face to my head and and i look to my right and i see a big grass that was very dry so i can jump inside during the shooting i have one bullet in my leg and when i jump in this grass you can see me inside the grass i uh my shoulder get out and come back and i stop breathing sit down stairs put in my head down and they come all around me i don't know how they they can see me because at the back of me there was a a a lot of grass so they can't see me but i hear them speaking i understand a little bit Arabic and i understand that they look of the officer they look to find me i understand they want to make a kidnap and and i i know that i i can't allow it to happen so i prepare with my gun that anybody will come i want to shot to shot with the eight bullet that i left and it was a miracle that they didn't find me and during this way i'm texting to my to the military unit and giving direct the exact direction where i am the exact location and giving the specific details about how to recognize the terrorists and the car they stole the stole the Israeli car with the yellow license so i understand that everybody that will come in front of them going to think that a mistake that they are friendly but and i must to give the direct details because i need to alert everybody around us do not come in and take them down when they see them after one hour some special units start fighting with them but the problem was that there was at the north the unit of Israel i was in the middle was the terrorist and the south was me so all the bullets that the Israeli that our units shoot just cross inside the the bush that i was inside and and even when the event all the combat finish and i can't go out because i don't know that if there is a verified that i didn't know that i'm inside and i don't want them to think that i'm a terrorist and shoot on me so i wait another three hours till a specific unit have connection with me and we make a confirmation that i am the one that they wait for him and they are the unit that come to rescue me and just a three o'clock at three p.m i rescue from from this event and took me to the hospital amazing story you'll see i'd like to thank you very much for sharing this with us thank you and wish you health and all the best thank you very much thank you very much okay let's take a listen chuck schumer senator schumer the democratic leader is speaking here in israel together quickly and three to show that israel's support is bipartisan behind me are two democrats and two republicans we have a lot of partisan divisions in america but this isn't one of them now israel israeli forces have already begun the work to extinguish the threat of hamas that is an it a goal that is has to happen has to happen there's also an important mission to rescue hostages taken by hamas many of whom are women children elderly some are americans as i said we met with some of the families of these hostages today as a parent or grandparent it's truly heart wrenching we we we wept as they told their stories there was such beautiful brave people and every second seems like a day as they're wondering what has happened to their child to their parent to their brother to their sister and we told them we would do everything we could including speaking to the president next week who had talked to these parents as well but we're going to talk to him next week about the us doing everything it can to help get the hostages relieved the biden administration and the israeli government have assured us that are that's happening now these are two necessary tasks eliminating the threat of hamas once and for all and freeing hostages but these tasks are made more difficult because unlike hamas civilized democracies like the us and like israel must hold themselves to a higher standard the biden administration has underscored that democracies like ours are stronger and more secure when we uphold the rule of law we echo that to every to the prime minister of israel and to every israeli official we met we told them that as well as military assistance intelligence assistance diplomatic assistance we wanted humanitarian assistance and i said to them find the fastest safest and most efficient way to do so we also told them it was really important to and it's difficult we know it's difficult but still we have to to minimize civilian casualties in gaza as senate majority leader as i mentioned the highest ranking jewish leader in american history i'm doing everything in my power to ensure the senate delivers the support israel needs to accomplish these military intelligence and humanitarian goals we will not just talk we will act we will work to move this aid through the senate asap and the israeli leaders made it clear to us they need the aid quickly we heard from what the israeli leaders about what is needed and in munitions we heard about precision guided bombs we heard about iron dome replacement we heard about 155 millimeter mortars we heard about jay dams and many other things and we also talked about what kinds of intelligence help they needed and well as diplomatic help that we might be able to do as well the needs of course are quickly evolving over time so we will work with the israeli government and the biden administration to assemble the most generous package possible when i return to washington i'm going to direct senators murray reed and carden heads of the most relevant committees to work with their ranking republican members and the biden administration to pull together a package that the senate can take up as soon as possible hopefully within the next few weeks now that people will ask what about the house we're not waiting for the house we believe if the senate acts in a strong bipartisan way it may indeed improve the chances that the house even with its current dysfunction will act so the bottom line is that october 7th is a day that will no doubt live in infamy my guess is i'll think of it every day for the rest of my life just as i think of 9 11 every day for the rest of my life and now we just want to be clear to the israeli people during these such difficult times i talked i just asked for random israelis the guy driving the car waiter at the restaurant and two others i bumped into every one of them knows somebody who's close to them who has been lost so it's such a difficult time but we know the difficulty of their task but we also know success the elimination of the threat of hamas is vital israel has a right to defend itself and eliminate the threat to hamas to make sure if this evil never happens again our prayers are with all of those killed and taken hostage their families the thousands injured may the memories of the dead be a blessing and a source of strength to all of us as we navigate this challenging future with fortitude of spirit and solidarity of purpose jackie i'm not that talk that was that was the senate majority leader chak schumer democrat from new york we may hear shortly from mitramini this is a bipartisan mission here in israel of some five or six senators uh daniel on former israeli ambassador to washington what can i tell you a show of bipartisanship that we haven't seen in a long time on anything jacob you're right i mean this this war has changed a lot of paradigms on the ground here in the region things that we are not seeing the end of it but also politically and in the united states this is the first time i see a bipartisan support for israel in a coordinated way you know even when they supported israel you know the democrats were supporting on one thing that they were not talking to each other now we see them you know talking together as you mentioned on a joint delegation coming here and and this is immensely immensely important and i think that this hopefully will lead or at least i mean this would be the the ideal that it would lead to a more bipartisan cooperation on other issues we need a strong america i mean what we see here in mitramas we need a strong america we need a strong america after the russian invasion to ukraine after the threats of china to invade taiwan of course all the iranians subversion in the region so hopefully we will see a change in washington as well and maybe even here in israel i don't know after the war change in washington will start in israel maybe maybe all right maybe i think for news defense correspondent jonathan reggae is here jonathan it's been a busy day another one and more so in the north which is somewhat a new level uh take us there yes and there seems to be a a a division of work between the libanese branch of hamas and khizballa khizballa is the one in charge of the anti-tank fire and we saw i think five different instances of anti-tank fire towards a military bases or or cars driving right along the northern border these anti-tank missiles they're they're meant for a very short range but they're extremely lethal cornet especially russian made and and they're very lethal this is khizballa is in charge of that hamas is in charge of the rockets which are fired all the way to the area of high fine of course places closer to the border and and yes the israel is closely closely watching what is happening on the northern border and israel is well aware of the dilemma of khizballa should it keep harassing and we're hearing what may be interceptions there's no siren but i do see people running to shelter now yeah it's quite close and uh if things are shaking here it means it's very close it was it was close um regarding the north um khizballa is not yet perhaps decided if it should keep just harassing israel as it does until now and and let's understand harassing israel we're speaking of roughly i think 10 people so far killed on the northern border and regular times this would be a pretext for war but now israel is mostly preoccupied on the south