This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Welcome back to Think Tech Hawaii's Human Jumain Architecture, every other week's edition with DeSoto Brown and Martin Despeng and we're broadcasting live from our lava rock island of Oahu in Hawaii. And here our volcano is not active anymore but today is the perfect weather for this show because today we got the Kona winds, that means they come over from the big island where the volcano is still active and what it blows over is what we call Vogue and what is that DeSoto? Vogue is a combination of aerosols put out by the volcano that turn into smog like air pollution but it's entirely natural, it's supposed to be man-made and we're one of the places in the world that's blessed or un-blessed with Vogue. Exactly. So bring the first picture, two weeks ago we did the volume one of this show here which was about volumetric volcanic building methodologies and as it's often with us, once we did the show, we stumble over something that we said, damn it, we wish we would have done that. So this is one me stumbling out of my school of architecture building up University Avenue, this is awesome church, mid-century church across and it has these amazing stunning look at how the glass is inserted there framelessly and how they basically push the basalt to this sort of sharp edge. So this is a late entry to what we're talking about because this is pretty much a monolithic stear atomic wall but today we want to talk about and you said probably around the 30s where industrialization kicked in and it was too expensive to do it and so one started to basically more clad slash veneer building. Exactly, exactly. So we see a shift from buildings which were made of rock to buildings which were made of concrete but had a rock veneer. So we're talking about volcanic veneers this show and if we go to our next picture we'll see an example of what we're talking about. This is the Cajaleta Hotel, beautiful mid-century building opened in 1963-64 and in the background you see that lava rock wall but of course it's an entirely concrete building and in front of it we see the pillar as well as the curve of the staircase where that plain concrete is visible in contrast to the veneer on the back wall. Awesome and I love this sort of submerged feeling it's like you're sitting in the crater. Yes, that's right. I mean this is cool. So the next one we're doing a little bit you show you emptied your archive and I walked around and looked what's left from that and this is just around my corner in the hood. This is the plinth of the Waikiki Circle Tower and I find this amazing, took this picture from going inside you don't see any car anymore it seems like you're in paradise that we envision although this is Kawa Kawa Avenue and there's a heaviest traffic as you can tell very personally from a recent trip that we saved for later and the next picture is the thing in detail where this is almost like an inhabited at Greenwall right so the mortar is so open and probably came out over the years or maybe intentionally so it's a sort of rock wall. I'm always thinking about resilience when seawater level rise which we have a lot they must have sensed that because this is almost like a barrier that the waters you know come against and they basically you can't literally there's a window down there as you can see but so that's sort of the gesture sort of feels like that and it's definitely a cool example but it's very interesting that the ferns probably they must water that wall to get the ferns to grow there because otherwise they wouldn't be there but that's a very interesting contrast of greenery getting in there so give me another one of the favorites that you always having a lot well one of the net in our next picture one of this is a picture from the kawai kawai surf hotel which opened in 1961 and this again is very much a contrast of the concrete plain concrete floor the lava rock veneer on the left and totally open in the dining area with the kiavi trees right there looking very raw and rugged and very uncivilized and yet you've got this civilized very very wire eames chairs people are sitting on again an interesting contrast very popular at that time they're actually Harry bit Toyo was that that's those yeah and I mean this is why didn't Hawaii stay like that but yeah that's another well so next picture is today and at least no that's a lot there we go so there we go this is on Kohiu and seaside once again we got that plinth and then you got that gastronomy up there and you always said you like that contrast between the rugged and the local and you know carved out of the quarry and then sort of the high tech could have made concrete which you can see in contrast playing off pretty well right give it some green give it some light give it some people and you got a really pleasant local mix that's right that's right so another one is the next one which is I believe it's unfortunately next picture please is endangered this is the former again key sushi on ours on our favorite Kawa street capo thank you yes and it's been empty for a while this is a very fine modern reminds me like a fatalian modernism like a Terani or something like it's a really nice composition and I hope someone moves in there and and sees the beauty of it and the beginning of the end are basically flanked by these by these rock walls and the ones towards diamond head which is the middle one I think perfectly portrays this sort of being offset from its actually structural wall behind so it's not trying to make up yes it is actually celebrating its veneerness right pretty great this was originally a savings in loan okay constructed in the early okay all right so we're we have been talking about sort of the culinary typology we sort of segueing out and showing a shopping right that's our next picture there's the Moanalua shopping center which was opened in about 1955 and again that looks like it's a monolithic stone wall you think that could be structural and that the rocks are actually holding everything up they are not that is just a concrete wall that has been adorned with the rocks but that again one of the reasons that we don't see this as much as because the amount of hand work that is required and even though this is not a stone wall per se somebody had to sit there and glue and attach all those rocks yeah but that's a lot of hand work and again you have the contrast of the Moanalua shopping center sign on the back which is was a neon sign on the back of this rough texture yeah and and sort of like if there's any sort of recipe or secret how to do this successfully and impressively it seems like applying the rock the more the better and and not sort of mixed and with other things and that reminds me of that picture that you provided for our tropical brutalism show how the ancient Hawaiians have correct correct and and that if you look at the really large remaining Hiao structures which Hiao of course are religious structures in traditional Hawai'i they were built with large almost retaining walls or foundation walls that looked like this that were dry stack they didn't use any mortar obviously no cement yeah but again a huge monolithic impressive physical structure to show the power of their religious their religious organization if you will and this gym is unfortunately not existing anymore in that case right and so is unfortunately the next picture in the next project one which is former Liberty House then Macy's in Kailua and now not anymore and at the top right you see how it will look soon it's a sort of pleasant mix of decorated and ornamented as you like to say with some wood with some white with some whatever very generic could be in California or somewhere else exactly yeah but at the bottom and I'm afraid that's going to go away too is which I sort of investigated in as a close-up here and you can see on the left there was this bus stop this bench yeah it was it was a fantastic sort of you're sitting in in your land so to speak right I mean you know what else too the Liberty House the facade was a metal grating yeah which we talked about in one of our previous shows yeah it was a very exotic building whereas the new one we allow ourselves to say is will be very invasive but we let ourselves be surprised we don't prejudge that's better we're sort of going into the another next typology next picture which is well this one before here this is sort of sequwing into this is about the car this is Mark's garage in downtown and this is a fellow founding board member Don Hibbert also been on the show a couple times who introduced us here on an expiry with the emerging generation that this is actually his favorite lava rock and you pointed this out last time lava isn't just lava there is a there is a total diversity and this is a very spongy porous one that shame on me I took the picture and blew it up too much so it doesn't really get you guys got to go there and this is the notion of the of the show anyways we want to go out and look for the things that we're talking about and so we're sequwing into residential uh low rise residential but the next one is sort of more like almost like a motel right yeah this is there were several of these ebb tide hotels and one of the structures is still in existence today uh I'm not sure about this one again the contrast of the plain concrete and the rough textured lava rock wall and the basalt ruggedness that is hearkening to Hawaii's rugged primitive past and yet today in this picture was taken in 1960 we have all of the amenities that you the tourist wants in a comfortable place today and what you just so perfectly say at the rugged you know nature is the next project which is up the gold coast um yeah a multi-residential tower and here once again so heroically celebrate it you know make this multi-story make it bold uh make it I find this this is one of the amazing most amazing entrances I've seen on the island because it's like that little mouse hole there so it's totally understated yeah versus the Victorian way where it's like showing off yeah you know and here's where I am there's no but then there's a sort of you know disappointment once you go through whereas here it's like this non-descript where is the entrance and then the tree next to it and then this iconic you know copper single letter of signage right this is the stuff that really was was making people coming here right and it did not find this anywhere else exactly right right and I really like the contrast of that variegated how bush that's been trimmed so that again it's the contrast of the colors the shape the textures against the lava rock absolutely and this is a natural way to do it as opposed to the unnatural or man-made way of including metal or concrete or tarazzo or other elements which are artificial and as you promised there were a couple more appetites so you got a multi-story appetite there that's oh we got a next picture okay our next picture yeah there's the alamone appetite that building is still there albeit very changed and altered and looking very shabby but again we have I think very interestingly those vertical fins in the center part of where the entrance is to emphasize the entrance canopy and then again the the lanai railings on the side which have the corrugated metal the plain smooth white stucco concrete roof placed on top of it again and this is a this is accumulation of elements of previous show crazy cantilevering canopies slatted yep white fins and then today's show yeah and next picture is another example and once again you guys go out there's more and more but this is again on on kapa hulu at the beginning of it towards the mountains and I always like this once again there's this heroic lava pretty much the same theme you know they did it was almost like the standard it was very standardized at that time a good standard a good standard to have I agree and you have another one from these glory days well let's see what do we have next we've got the victoria apartments this is in Waikiki that's a 1959 Chevrolet in the foreground so we know it's at least in 1959 and very much the same things that we've been seeing the contrast of the different types of materials against that lava rock although what we're seeing there is a smoother surface we're going to see more of lava being used more as obvious veneer where it's been sliced and made slim to adhere to a wall rather than being in its rounded original state absolutely and just stepping out of this typology but sort of related because in the back in the days back in the good days they had the schools close to where one lived and next picture is a school right there always is a church sorry no it's a school it's a religious school this is scar of the sea school you're correct and that's why the girls are in yeah and again very much like what we've been seeing just the contrasting elements the the rounded rock features against a very rectangular structure and a very rectangular wall but the cross on the wall again very strong contrast to make it stand out yeah the plain smooth white cross on the rugged dark background of the basalt and you got one more one exotic tropical and here's the uh tropic surf this is located on Cuyo Avenue in Waikiki very much the same situation and and again during that time as you just said this was a very standardized type of construction for small buildings commercial buildings here in Hodeloo but as that one shows there were nice variations to that theme right here basically the slabs are continued yes so it's like an infill from floor to floor right and that way sort of less archaic rustic right and an acknowledgement of the presence of that concrete floor yeah exactly which is a different color and the next picture is sort of a potpourri of things in my front yard from the top a park shore and then the bottom is next to it and I just happened to I mean this is not a historic picture in the middle but that 1950s SL just drove by so I thought what a perfect there we go back in time and the one in the bottom is that ABC store and once again you can see the rugged park shore one the more chunky one and then you can see that more this is a better picture of the same stone that Don likes so much right and then the the middle part at the very right we go to the next picture because this is my building where I'm currently struggling and fighting to stay because it seems like I might get kicked out so you guys cross your fingers yeah yeah yeah so here's the show I did with my neighbor Tom Miller down there and and we refer to that because now we're going to talk about how cool is maybe a volcanic veneer these days the monocle city guides here is who are headquartered in London as we pointed down in that show think it's very cool because one of their images in their little promotional video they feature that signage so once again it's it's that we see the same sort of theme and standard of the single letter mostly in copper in green and and patinated yes applied to the sort of the font and the the sort of the picture of of Lava Rock right and the next picture is is another building featured in that same trailer and the the trailer is I'm sorry is this is this is basically a publisher a well-known publisher yeah branding RSR city yes and sorry current developers it's not showing any of your modern buildings it's showing but it's showing the stuff from the good old days because it must be obviously still hot exactly as Lava was and and it's also something that you're not going to see done again in exactly the same way so everything that we have of this type every example like this needs to be acknowledged as something we're never going to duplicate and and preserve and preserve for that reason and this is on all away boulevard and I think this must be another version or example of Don's favorite yeah very porous sort of rice cracker like it's very sponge like yeah exactly exactly yeah so we're going to look now at the few examples we found where you know architects and and clients are are doing this again and this is almost like a deja vu once again of a couple shows we did in the past these are some shopping mods and this is the international marketplace how it looks now and we sort of very critically looked at how it looked in the past which there's a picture at the top right where the materials as you pointed out were pretty much from here the the climate control devices were off you know using our trade winds correct and now we basically pretty much got an invasive western corporate shopping mall yes that has none of that anymore but now some of the retailers come in like this one here and basically veneer yes their storefront yes so as you can see there's a whole bunch there and these two pillars and there's actually behind that wooden awning is also a horizontal piece of it and you know the detail I took at the very top in the middle if you go there it's kind of weird it almost I mean I've never seen that lava it almost I'm wondering you had that question before about when we introduced the last show it was like is this real or is this fake correct I mean it almost looks like too lava to me yeah it almost looks like it still flows and that doesn't really you you can't tell in situations like that if that's something that's molded from actual rock yeah you can't tell I think and probably until you go up and hit it with your finger yeah to tell if that's actual stone or if it's well and if you go to koalina it's mostly fiberglass but it looks more authentic than the real stuff so in one criticism we made and actually after the fact one another example after the fact you I think saw a sign that says uh don't go to the center before 10 in the morning or something like that and it also doesn't allow street vendors yeah or even musicians to be on the public street in front of the thing yeah so the public space got hijacked by capitalism yes it did and that's not the only place that that's happened particularly in waikiki exactly and so it also pushed out the little people the little vendors right and they pushed them next picture into at least they're they found another refuge and that's duke's lane but then there is this uh trade center waikiki trade center that also got really well up yeah and it's fronting also a duke's lane and so now that gentrification with this pretty hideous uh classicist yes this is vegas and caesar's palace or something veneer in front of that you know interesting 70s stuff so it's it it gets more and more weird and then this stuff spills into duke's lane i think it's legitimate to be afraid that's going to just continue it's going to be contagious and it's going to gentrify and then you have none of these little vendors left and this particular area of kuhio avenue has been gentrified a great deal it's in the process of being upgraded considerably right at the moment right as we speak and this duke's lane excuse me excuse me this duke's lane eatery which is essentially a food court is evidence of that not necessarily a bad thing because i've gone there and i've enjoyed it yeah you pointed out ironically that there is a restaurant called basalt which you show there you can see in the the photograph and there's no basalt no there's nothing not not even the attempt of a veneer which is our topic but the next picture next door it is they put a hotel into the into the trade center and the Hyatt centric and then there is a sort of lobby wall which is pretty much you can imagine this is cut thin tile like you know and it's pretty much like um if it's at all natural but let's give it that and uh but as you said as you said too this is applied like tile yeah you slice it the back is smooth and then you just glue it up on the wall so there's really not a lot of hand crafting involved as there wasn't some of the earlier but you saw an example which i blindly walked by i've been there the day before and i'm going over each other where they tried to reindue this the real and that's the next picture right and this is at all i'm on a center this is the Hawaiian islands creation store and when this was installed in the 1990s i was very aware that they were harkening back to the use of the raw rough basalt rock again so it caught my attention when they did it because it had gone out of it had gone out of favor gone out of style you pointed out the very interesting stairway and sort of balcony that we see in the picture on the right yeah this continuation inside the store assuming that that's real rock that's pretty heavy that's pretty scary almost yeah but more scary is the next picture which is one more left that's our biggest mall alamwana after its extension and then there is a signage thing and they put this sort of i mean this is the thinnest veneer ever and it's beaten up and it's cracked so our message is like guys okay if you do if you do you know lava rock again which is great and do it more seriously and don't do it so decoratively right and in the in the photograph in the upper right corner you can see that that actually is cracked the exact is broken apart and separated and there's a big crack so that's sort of like an offense to local you know local everything and it clearly is not structural no it's not so the next picture is is the last mall that we did a show about which is the which is the royal hawaiian shopping center as we refer to at the top and so that one has originally been and this is what also a permanent background refers to um has originally been what we call the volcrete the local concrete so i had tried to be what frank like ride called concrete liquid stone exactly so i try to be sort of a man made port right lava rock if you want with aggregate with texture with separate units in it and also keeping kalakaua kalakaua which was a palm grove unfortunately that didn't fly well over the years and they started to cheesecake the front and then one tenant who's very corporate probably the most corporate which is apple who's usually doing a a glass store they were saying well this location is different we got to do something specific about it and they basically use the salt as basically um plates or or um or cladding or cladding and in big sheets and it's a pretty interesting um yeah i i heard a rumor and i had never anyone confirm it that they had to ship this to cupitino where some high guys looked at it and sorted some out and just shipped it back of course then you sort of offset at least the carbon footprint part of local so we shouldn't do that right but you know it's it's good craft it's it's certainly the best you know cheesecakeing off the former work rate and it's an interesting variation on a major corporation allowing a different unique facade that that is not identical to all of the other ones that they've used elsewhere in the world exactly and if you look at the detail sandblasting in that apple there you know this lit thing is pretty is pretty interesting correct well let's go to something else that now now we'll leave we'll go to our next picture and we're going to leave the hawaiian islands and we're going to go to germany which is the homeland of my friend martin here and this first of all on the left what is that on the left that's a funny-looking thing well this is the mouth spowl who many in the arts he considered be our import most important son of hen over germany is courtschwitters and he was a dada artist right dada was weird for most people and this is this is a crazy installation that's a crazy dada original in one in one mizia right and on the right there was a commission that martin worked on with his father i believe yeah for to honor this guy schwitters who is a switters that's right switters who is this dada artist and if we go to the next picture this was a series of light rail stations and the stations all started out with this basic steel framework as you see here and then each one of the stations along this line got a different exterior attached to it that had some connection to where that particular location was and in this particular case if we go to the next one we will see that the idea was to use river rock that was indigenous to that particular location because it had been a rural location that was being urbanized and the attempt to use that rock was unfortunately economically impossible so they had to do a mold of the real rocks and install the mold on the steel skeleton to create the bus shelter or the train shelter that you see on the right that different one yeah that right and so the next one we see how the basalt one then came right and so then again we're going to harken to where this is where the basalt came from and so this particular station on that steel framework you had these basalt panels installed but those smaller what look like just gray dotted uh the the gray rectangles that are dotted around in there actually have a an artistic purpose and if we go to the next picture this again is uh paying homage to switters switters and as a crazy data person he wrote what he said was a poem in 1922 which is actually just the alphabet backwards starting with z and so to honor the poem those individual panels contain each one of the letters in the backwards order and at night when it gets dark you don't see the basalt very much but the interior of those panels is lit so that you can now see the sandblasted letter that is visible and as martin says if we go to the next picture it kind of looks like fireflies i've never personally seen fireflies so i can't say that that looks like that but there are the letters which you can kind of see which light up and pay homage to switters the original crazy data poet and in the next picture one of the things that martin and i discussed was here's a then and now picture so i think on the right is the picture when it was first installed and on the left is the way it looks today almost 20 years later and uh where's very little graffiti on it there's one heart that i can see up there in the right hand corner but basically it remains in pretty much its original condition looking really good and i'm i'm proud that they don't wreck things up there right and yeah in art let's just let's just jump ahead and let's do the next picture and this is the town to the left is the town where the material came from in mending a volcanic area which the picture on the top right refers to and it's amazing to see an entire city made out of their material their stuff right we're saying we're still a rock island we're still a volcanic rock and what we all see is shiny metal it's stucco it's cheesecake all these things why not see our indigenous material and we made a suggestion how on a larger scale one could do that revisit the last show this is the picture at the bottom right the canary islands the way they did that there and then go to the second the last picture here which is a picture uh there's martin which susanne took of me when she was here and we were sitting in holly eva and watching the sunset and when it gets colder like relatively now in the winter it's so warm because it retains heat correct while midday when the sun is blasting it if it would be granite you couldn't see it on it would burn your butt right but it doesn't do with the salt so this means there is some r value there is some insulation because it's aerated by nature right and so the idea is let's go to the next picture aerate the rock the way the natural basalt is containing microscopic small air pockets and those air pockets insulated they don't make it overly hot but they also can give off heat later on and that in the background shows that process being used for concrete yeah so we don't have any specific suggestions here like in the other shows but we just want to deliver it to the audience and the professional community and the emerging ones think about an evolution every introduction of using lava rock in a substantial way correct that's what our last two shows have been about lava rock basalt and the ways it has been used the ways it can be used if you think about it exactly and the next show will be a we'll take advantage that i'm back in germany and so we will find a topic that sort of takes advantage of me being even more distant getting a sort of a very multicultural view again and until then stay warm yep and lava crazy


I was one of the highlights of my year meeting Amy last year and she was kind enough to point it out. I'n sure that these two will be no disappointment. No pressure! I'm also slightly relieved of some of the way that in my taxi the tax driver said, Where are you going? I said I'm going to an open data conference. He sort of said, I just really don't know what I think about that. I said, really? He said, yea I just think it's just going on far too much with young people. I thought this isn't what I think. I've worked out, I've talked about OpenDating. So, we're not going to talk about OpenDating, we are all going to talk about OpenData and two fabulous people on the stage with me and I'll let them introduce themselves but I have referred to myself before as somebody kind of shouted at me in the street that I was a dotcom dinosaur. So I am hoping that you guys will make me feel a bit less Jurassic and a lot more connected.  I'm Ben Webb. I've done a lot of stuff with particularly open data standards for international transparency. So I did a bunch of work directly with the International Aid Transparency Initiative and in April I co-founded open data services to do a lot of the same sort of work for with other data standards such as the open contracting data standard and 360 giving the UK philanthropic data standard. A lot of the stuff I specifically do is kind of software development to build tools that help people with the data publishing process to these standards. Feminist, thank you. And George? My name is George Edwards. I'm the founder of my Startup Gas Sense. It's a spin-out from my A-level coursework looking at the technology to monitor LPG both in sort of small installations right up to big industrial things. So obviously we're creating quite a lot of data and sort of internet of things space. I'm given my background and my age quite interested in why lots of young people don't look at engineering and technology as a viable career. So I do quite a lot of work around that. And there's lots of generational profiles, as we'll tell you, my loss are all quite interested in social change. So we sort of tried that as an angle. We went into a school a couple of weeks ago and obviously the refugee crisis was right at the forefront of everybody's minds. So we took, I had already given a load of sensors to the aid workers going out with gas bottles for the soup kitchens. So we pulled all the data off those and overlaid that with a load of data from publicly available data from where the refugee camps were and where the refugees were. So we could overlay our information of where the aid was with where the people were. And in the morning with a load of students that had never looked at technology properly, we were able to create a heat map of where aid should be targeted. And something as sort of simple and fairly easy to do is that really struck a chord with them. So that's my interest in open data and how it can integrate with this new generation. Fabulous. Before we get into a bit more of the detail of what you two are both working on. I'm interested in your perspectives on, I don't want to be patronising, but the different age groups that you both come from. One of my challenges as people in this audience may know has been, I feel like sometimes this community talks to itself quite a lot. And in this room we're all very keen and passionate about this subject. And I'm interested whether you think that more broadly from your peers or people that you know the sense of open is as strong as that you would find in this room. Ben, do you want to? I think it's a difficult question for me because I always struggle to separate the change in the world at large in terms of people's perspectives on this and the change in terms of the people I've ended up surrounding myself with. Self-selecting group. But I think with open data particularly it could be quite interesting to kind of watch kind of the edge of where people's awareness of that is because I, you know, quite familiar with the more general open source community. And I think whilst there's obviously a massive overlap, open data is not necessarily as well known as you might expect. Would you say your generation is more open than you perceive others to be? I think that's the, yeah, I think so. And I think there's a lot going on with private data at the moment and how young people see that because I think it's not even quite, my generation is people a bit younger than me aren't using Facebook to be sharing loads of stuff. They're using more private services like Snapchat and so on. But on the other hand, I think young people's expectations of services they interact with are quite different. And I think their expectations of government services are that they should work much like the other stuff, you know, other services they interact with. To bottle you and take you with me when I go around government because that is exactly the point that they think the expectation is now set so high. Is that those sentiments that you recognise? Yes, certainly. I think the underlying kind of core belief is there but I don't think people recognise it. I think there's a big issue, the press are far more interested in personal privacy and everyone's trying to steal your data and you've got to protect it. Again, with young people at schools it's all about protect what you put on Facebook because it's going to damage your career prospects and it's all terribly scary. Do you think that's right? No, it's a completely separate issue and in itself the backlash that that's causing is really threatening a lot of this really powerful stuff that can be done. I think that people understand it, they just need it, it needs to be communicated that it is happening and what the whole range of work in the data space is and it's not just about your phones being hacked. I agree with you about the media perception, I think that one of the things I've found funny I do a lot of work in digital skills and helping people get online for the first time and I was sitting a while ago with a mother and a daughter and the mother was probably at 55-60 and she recently got on Facebook and she was loving it, she was posting all kinds of pictures of herself and her daughter who was about 18 was saying I'm going mum, you are probably nuts to do that, you don't want all that stuff out there and it was a completely different, it was kind of interesting to what people expect of those two generations. But to tell us a bit more, you've both kind of done your own thing and one of the things I find really interesting about classified generation open as a younger generation is that your perspective in terms of how you build your career and what you do is so different even to when I went into work 20 years ago, five years was my time frame or maybe 10 even whereas I think my perception is that you guys are building things in much smaller project based ways. Would you say that was true and how does that feed into your projects now you're thinking about things? You've gone straight into entrepreneurialism, practically from your A levels. I think with again it's a media thing but also with the way that technology has affected my generation which is a generation that almost all of our education has been entirely supported by the internet and by digital. People are quite aware and quite willing and encouraged to look beyond the standard career path and look more widely afield. I think projects particularly from the technical side which is what I'm interested in and again many of the people that I spend time with are interested in that. So entrepreneurialism and technology typically work well on project levels and it's far easier to go and specifically research something, work on it and then communicate it. Those are the sort of behaviours that technology drives so I think that is something that particularly young people quite like working in that way and they respond well to it. So what kind of time frame do you have in your work? I guess like you say fair relatively short time frames but I guess it's tricky to unpick what of that's my personal approach to think and how much of it is that the open data space is very young and lots of very new projects that are currently working on fairly short time frames. Just because they're at that sort of very early stage. So if we stand two or three years out and look back at what you two have done over the next two or three years what will you be shouting about do you think? That's a good question. Too many things. Go on, take a pun. I mean I think a big part of what I'm trying to do at the moment is working in this general effort towards data standardisation as part of open data because I think if there's one thing I think of when I hear generation open is kind of having the assumption of open. It's kind of the air that we breathe and that kind of open by itself is not enough and I think points in the open data charter kind of really underscore that a lot of the work I'm doing is around standardisation but I think really the thing I'd like to look back on is seeing the work I'm doing being useful. So I think use of this data is really the end goal and I think there's various routes towards having that. I think standardisation is one of them. Did you want to talk in a bit more detail about your project because we haven't heard it really described by you? So at opening to services we're working with a variety of data standards organisations. So one of them is the open contracting partnerships that has the open contracting data standard and others 360 giving which has a philanthropic, is a UK philanthropic data standard. We do some work around the international age transparency initiative as well and our approach to our work around that is trying to build tools that are useful across all these different projects and kind of help make publishing to these standards easier for people and also help make sense of the data that has been published. So you would really agree with Nigel's point that we've got to think about data as infrastructure and those? Yes, yes. Very much so I think particularly with the contracting information it's kind of that project as a whole is kind of at fairly early stages but potentially that's going to be a massive piece of infrastructure information about contracts and contracts. When George Osborne announced his infrastructure commission that you may have heard about which is a good attempt I think to have some longer term planning in government you would have seen a sort of barrage of tweets coming out from me that morning because there was no mention of digital as part of that infrastructure let alone open data and I get frustrated I think when we still don't seem to embed to your point kind of the default should be both digital and open I would argue. Do you perceive the same challenges in what you're doing around common standards? I think so, yes. It's interesting and again we've kind of touched on it today already but the difference between it's quite easy because a lot of what the government does because of this sort of funding model is quite easy to say that that should be open here can we help you. My background is from the sort of commercial world and again they've got vast quantities of data that's been specifically designed to be so valuable and creating ways and helping the private sector make that open and create value from it being open. And I think you know in sort of three, five, ten years time however long it takes we need to get away from the sort of traditional sort of mindset where you sort of create data, protect it and defend it and it's our value and I've finished working for BAE systems so you're obviously right down the far end of the data spectrum and everything's got to be a secret as you can possibly make it. But they've got to understand that there's actually a huge amount of value for them regardless of whether it's a nice philanthropic thing and it helps other people but just for them there's value in it being in them open sourcing some of their data and letting other people see it. So I find it difficult where I'm standing from talking to young people and educational communities who are very receptive to it and then going and pitching or being in a business conversation and you get that sort of blank look and oh that's a terrible idea, why would you do that, you know you've got to patent everything and secure your value just because that's a much more obvious sort of comfortable thing to do exactly. So how do you overcome that? Well there are some good tricks. Wow. Examples help and there are very few but some good examples of where a sort of modern mindset has worked. So Tesla is a good example saying all of their IP is open because it will help people develop electric cars and if they become accepted then we will benefit. Toyota saying we can do manufacturing better than everyone else but we'll tell them how we do it because then more people will develop and the supply chain will be far better at it. I'm on the board of Marks and Spencer and when I suggested really that in a board meeting you should have seen the faces. I'm sure. As opposed to if you had suggested that we hide more security guards to stop that happening that would have gone down far better. So that's interesting and I think that there's a lot of work to be done there, selling examples and getting businesses to see that there is a huge tangible value and that companies don't die by not protecting themselves. They die by creating genuine value. I think there is a big cultural shift to try and have that but I think within government that they're further along I think in terms of this cultural shift towards open and I think we're at an early stage of that in business. I think something that might help drive this forward is the cases where private companies are delivering stuff to government. The governments need to start increasingly saying we're going to require you to produce this data. The big example I'm kind of aware of is with the International Aid Transparency Initiative. The Department for International Development in the UK has started requiring those that give money to both NGOs and private sector to publish data about what they're doing with that aid money. I think you're absolutely right so I'm asking maybe a slightly trickier question. If you could do any kind of dream project for a company or an organisation where would you really love to get stuck in it? Would it be a systems? Would it be a government department? What is it that you would love to be able to say yes we're going to create a completely different model of openness? I think it's interesting so again as I say I take interest in the way that young people view engineering and I tried and the project failed so the roadblocks we've already discussed to get BAE one of the companies but a couple of these huge big engineering companies that have vast teams of people employed to collect data about their recruitment processes and the apprentices and graduates that they hire and they've got lots of data and it's in everyone's mutual interest that that information can be brought together to produce genuine insight about how they should target young people to be more effective in their aims to make them look at technology and they just couldn't do it. They just couldn't bring themselves to talk to people that aren't their competitors, they're just in the same space and I was really taken aback and shocked by that. So being in a place where there are these big programmes that the companies are already working on and getting them to realise across the organisation that open data is valid and likely the best tool for them to realise those aims so I don't know I would necessarily be interested in any particular outcome but the serious outcomes that the business is already looking at and getting them to see it much like the infrastructure getting them to see it in the same box and not something that the corporate social responsibility people deal with. How about you Ben? I think I kind of identified some of this in the work I'm doing currently because I think with the open contracting data standard there are a lot of large companies interested in that because there's a business position for them to be selling the procurement systems. People are using the Ben output this data so I think that's really making the right incentives and driving this business case for producing open data as a feature of what they're selling to their customers is quite important. It's interesting to me that you both pick, we've talked quite a lot about private company examples and the way I find that kind of reassuring because I think it goes back to how does the sector build links outside just the sector itself and also again the data I read about generations younger than me is that there is just an assumption that businesses should do the right thing and there's a kind of assumption that you need that social purpose which maybe sounds ridiculous to you guys but wasn't it given when I was starting in my working life 20 years ago I think it was sort of the CSR box as you say over there and that's moved very quickly. I think that's something you recognise. Yeah certainly and it's a very, even in business but kind of across the landscape it's seen as a modern thing to do which is surprising but again through my work I've worked a lot with Virgin and Branson and that's been something critical to what they've done right from when they started out. Let's look at a sort of modern, open and positive way of doing things because it benefits everyone and again you can go back to sort of really cold hard economic maths and prove that that's a benefit to everyone. Yes, Q&A don't worry I'm on it. I'm going to stop talking and I'm going to throw it open to you now. So some questions for these bright young people who are going to make our future better. Please anybody like to ask anything? Wave a hand in the air. There's a gentleman in the middle there. Great. I think both of you are really very inspiring so that's first comment but the big question I have is related to your education and do you feel that you've had to sort of strive to show that you're interested in the worlds that you're in or that you've been supported it through your school? Because for me I wonder whether or not there's enough going on in schools to help you and people like you, like my children, or are you very well supported which is my hope? I was very well supported at school. I think I was very lucky. I think it was quite unusual that the support that I had so I went to the King School Canterbury and they had a big established engineering department which I think is very unusual. I will sit that as a course so I had the support from a technological perspective. I had some spectacular mentors from industry that came and worked with me on my projects. And then when I said that the suggestion was made that I started looking at it as a business, the school was very supportive and made the first introductions for me to go down the patenting route and there was a whole network that was made available to me and I was very lucky to have that. I was very sort of strongly encouraged to look beyond the education on the university spheres and really take advantage of everything that was there despite my age. I hear from a lot of the work that I do in schools that that isn't the case for everyone. I think it should be and that's critical to why I try and do everything that I can to close that disparity. I'm kind of the opposite. When I was at school there were no computer science courses. There was IT and A-level computing which was quite lacking. IT courses weren't taught by IT teachers. They were taught by geography and other teachers. So I think kind of over the past, well, I think up until recently IT and particularly programming education in schools has been very lacking. And I think that is slowly starting to change. I think there's a lot of good work happening in that space to try and improve that. I think there's various groups like Co-Club and Co-Didojo and something I've personally been involved in was Unruwide State. They're all right. It's interesting isn't it that at the same time all this stuff becomes more important to arguably there's a bigger disparity between both of your experiences in education and I agree that's a big concern. Anyone else? Gentleman at the front? Whip down. Do you want to shout? I'll repeat the question if we can't hear. Thank you very much for the discussion. I used to run an organisation called Engineers Without Borders. We did a lot of work around Generation Open about trying to help people to understand when they need to apply linear thinking that we get taught in schools and when we need to apply network thinking which is what we experience every day. But when you're running an organisation or running a startup or trying to set something new you have to always interface between this rather harsh linear world where you have grant applications and deadlines and key performance indicators as a sort of a world of scientific management, project management, very reductionist approach. And a world where it is about partnerships and coalitions and about empowering people and it's about creating change rather than creating impact rather than indicators. I found that particular experience of trying to interface between these two worlds exhausting. However you found it. It's a really interesting one and certainly quite marked with the, I haven't yet had my sort of transitional phase with the university so I'm on my gap now so I've just finished school. So it's kind of quite marked. I think that generally the engineering mindset has helped, that's been my sort of underlying process and people and mixing those two bits together sort of have got me through. But I think it's a big challenge and particularly with my kind of lack of experience and sort of desire to be innovative, trying to apply that sort of networked, much more holistic, rounded approach to many of the linear processes causes strife but value if I can make it work. So I think it's really interesting and a lot of things are changing. Grant applications unfortunately aren't one of them. But yes. I think it is a challenge and I think personally I've been working with others that I think have been taking on more of the brunt of managing those two worlds. And I think it's definitely one of the things where kind of grappling where there's a new organisation at Open Data Services so I'll let you know how that goes. Ask all these, find it hard to. Let's have one more question and I'm going to look around. There's a woman to ask a question, that's what we want. Hello, Ruth McKernan in the UK. So my organisation is there to build and grow new businesses. Most of those are product type businesses which might take 10 years to make a product and start getting revenue. So in digital businesses that might be 10 minutes or 10 hours. So how would my organisation most help you? Sure. So I'm slightly different in that we are sort of hardware so we're kind of in the middle ground. I think in terms of the, with the sort of faster pace or the sort of medium pace, there's a lot of additional support. So in a really long term project, you know, for the first five or six years, it's mostly going to be money is going to be in that the primary issue and you're not particularly, you know, you don't have that many issues to face like sort of marketing and PR and lots of the more holistic things that the businesses struggle with. With digital and sort of semi digital, semi hardware where I'm at, there's a kind of interesting paradigm where engineers typically are the people involved because you're building products. You've very quickly got to get to grips with the sort of plethora of other issues that jump up right from sort of accounting to PR and marketing. And I think that's, I mean there's a huge amount of good work going on in the sort of start-up space to aid that transition but getting engineers sort of fit for business is a challenge, a big challenge and one that I sort of struggled with. So I think everything that can be done there, from a mentoring perspective, from a tangible support perspective, but I mean even if you give someone loads of money that they can only spend on marketing, that still doesn't necessarily help. It's what you do with it and you can waste a lot of that money easily. How about you? This is a dream question. Help on the plate. Help on the plate. I think one of the interesting questions for us is primarily, you know, a lot of what OVD services delivers is services, is in a sense kind of working out what our products actually are because that kind of, that can be a useful way of thinking about things but it's not part of the challenge. It is working out what it is, what is the core of what you're delivering and what do you want to be delivering and what are the steps to get that. That kind of ties back doesn't it to the same point about all those support bits and pieces. Well, as always, I feel like the future is in safe hands and I hope that it will be as open as you two are striving for it to be and know that everyone in this room will be inspired by you and endeavour to help you. So thank you for joining me on the stage.


So we're here with N plus one and hi Please introduce yourself. Oh, my name is Esther. We are from N plus one smartwatch company and your colleagues And what this is one of your last smartwatches, this is our analysis choice here about smartwatch Yeah, it's two in one Magnetic two in one year about the smartwatch as you know, there are 300 as a bitters of smartwatches in GS fail And only four smartwatches were chosen by analysis choice We are the one of them. This is one and this is another one You have two out of four to we got two only four in this GS fail Have got analysis choice and you work with a real tech chipset or the Jerry chipset. What is the chipset here? This is real tech real tech chipset. And what is the UI and the software? Art us a UI, let me show you the UI UI. Yes, right. Yeah, you have different home. This is big cloud pro nice Yes, like this Very stable. Yes stable Heart rate sensor Everything's stable. You have the heart rate. Yes. It has got a red radiation red radiation monitoring The accuracy reaches to 98% and you do oxygen level You have what sensor you have inside Blood oxygen Yes, blood pressure. How to do the blood oxygen Just vary on your race and then it starts testing automatically All right. Yes, as you could see there are so many functions Yeah, as you could see Yes, get a job as you could see there are so many functions inside Blood heart rate blood oxygen blood pressure sleep monitoring Yeah, there's a female function. Yeah, female function for this one. No have but this one It has got the female function All right, so it's all in there. Yes. Are you a factory or design house or yes We are the manufacturer here and exporter of smartwatches There's a lot of smartwatches on your table. Yes, many different models smartwatches The Emily screen smartwatches 4G smartwatches and the one with the earbud. What is the quality of the earbuds? We call it earbud smartwatch 2-in-1. How's the quality of the sound? Well, the sound is pure the sound is pure many buyers came here and said it perfect It sounds good. Yes, it fits good in the ear. Yes It fits very well. You can have different size tips. Yes, we got different size Earbud cap. All right. Yes, correct. How long is the battery life on the on the earbud? This one 300 mAh this one 22 25 25 How long it will last? Last for three to five hours three to five and then in the side here This one three to seven working days. Nice. Yeah Cool. And this is a big one. Yeah, this is the 4G Nice 4G smartwatches for sport style. Is it Android? Yeah, we use with Android Yeah, it's very clear. Nice. Clear camera Cool. So selfie cam. Yeah, we are selling selling on Amazon By our Chinese agent. Good price The price is around $130 and how about the one with the earphones with the ear? Only 29.99 29.99. Yeah, 29.99 only. What is MLQ? MLQ starts from three thousand pieces. All right Yeah, lower quality is also acceptable. What is the cheapest one here? Cheapest one This one Emily's green smartwatches Only $14 Yeah Cool UI also. Yes Do you have and Google where? You're planning to do Google where Android? Well for this kind of 4G smartwatches. We could download Google. What's that? Facebook Instagram, whatever. This one has Android. Yes. This one also What is the chipset? What is this chip? NDK With 4G included? Yes, correct. With an e-SIM and SIM card slot? Yes. What kind of price for this? This one only $100 Nice. Yes. Very advanced. Yes Has everything you need and you provide software updates? Yes, correct. You have the good software engineer at the company? It's third party. Third party? Yes How long time you do a smartwatch? We have been in this industry for around 10 years. And the market is growing? Yes, it's growing. Always more and more. It's not going down. It's going up. Going up. Yes, that's true. What is your biggest market? Our biggest market is located in Europe. Yes. Also we have many buyers from Middle East, South America, North America, Asia Yes, and even Africa. And your friends here, are they working with the engineering or? Yes, product manager, designer. Yes. I'm focusing on South. CEO. I'm focusing on South. Yes. Cool. All right. And what is the most popular? Most popular? In this film, more than 50% buyers are looking for earbuds smartwatches. Oh, yeah. So everybody wants this now? Yes. Except this, and around 40% buyers looking for endless green smartwatches. And the earbuds, they will never fall out? Yeah, they will never fall down. They will not fall out? Yes, correct. Because if they fall out, you need to order new earbuds? Yes, it's not going to fall out. If somebody lose the earbuds, it's possible just to order only the earbuds? Yes, it's possible. For low price? Yes. Otherwise just buy new watch? Yes, correct. Okay. Let me show you. This is for endless green smartwatches. This is number one popular. This one, Ultra. It has got the Ultra appearance. Like this. Cool. Cool UI. Yes. Wow. All right. What is the software here? This software is called Fit, Jerry. Jerry Cheap. So this is the Jerry, this one? Jerry, 701. And there's also Fit Cloud Pro. Yes. What is the Fit Cloud Pro? Fit Cloud Pro. Connect to the internet and stuff? By Bluetooth connection. And then there's a QWatch Pro. Yes. Fit Cloud Pro and PG Fit. It's from an apps company. From an apps company. Yes. All right. Cool. All right. What else? And this is your website? Yes, it's our company's official website. And you can show this also. So people can just check you out right there on the internet. You have a cool website. Yes. And here's a catalogue? Yes. This is our catalogue. Here. Ultra. Here. Cool. So I'll put the information for contact under the video. People just contact you and place a big order. Thank you. Yes. Thank you.


Hey guys, it's Monica. Oh My gosh, I have not been sleeping lately. I've had I think it's probably really because of all the stress in my life I just have really had the hardest time sleeping. So I've tried a couple of different products to You know kind of relax me and all of that and I was using a CBD product and and I found one that really works So in this video, I'm going to talk about this and that and maybe a little bit of everything So if you're curious, stay tuned so first of all I Jay and I have been working in the machine shop Which was my father's machine shop, which is attached to our home It's like on a big we have a barn that my dad converted Like 50 years ago into a machine shop and you all know my dad passed away to it would be two years in July So we've been working on emptying that out and getting rid of the machines and just doing a ton a ton of work I mean cleaning scraping lots of this black carbide dust that have that's been in there It's just been an astronomical job So I've been like my hands have just been horrible. I haven't had a manicure. I haven't gone for a pedicure I haven't had any of that since like last year sometime and My hands are just really awful and my nails are terrible so I was watching this video from Mrs. Melissa M and I Don't know how long ago it was now. Maybe a month or I actually first started on Facebook I don't know when she published it on YouTube, but where she was talking about some glass nail files And you know when I had remembered quite a while ago Somebody had talked about what a big difference it made using a glass nail file on their nails rather than an emery board that tears them up more and All of that but I just I looked at the time I looked at the glass nail files and I thought they're just Too pricing so anyways I I was listening and actually reading what Melissa had said on Facebook How her nails have never been better since she's been using these glass nail files and I said I'm gonna go check it out so I followed her link and it brought me to Amazon and of course once you start looking at nail files you get a ton of them and The one that she ordered I want I wanted to order the one that she ordered because I thought well She's used it and I know her although we've never met in real life, but I feel very comfortable with her So I went on of course her purple ones that she had loved they were like at the time that I ordered $8 more than the plain silver ones right the plain colored ones So I ordered a set of the plain colored ones now. It has a full file their glass Right. It has a full file a little point You have to be really careful when you put it in because you don't want to really damage this So it has a full one then it has a smaller one this size except silver I just ignore the purple for now and then it had a round For the cuticle for shaping, you know really pushing the cuticle and so it came in three three pieces three sets Okay for your cuticles a larger file and a smaller file So I took the smaller file and I put it in the motor home because we went camping and I wanted to because knowing me Right. I I need to have something there when we're away So I took the smaller one I put it in the motor home the bigger one I kept it home And then I liked it so much that I knew because all of a sudden I was having one in my park a book and then I didn't bring my pocketbook one time and I had a snag and I said oh my gosh So I you guys are gonna crack up. So I knew I needed one for my car and went for the office So I ordered a second one now the time I ordered my original one only the silver one same thing check glass Made by the same company. I think the company I Look at it. It's a bona fide beauty and it's made it from check glass and It's really Awesome So I'm not gonna tell you have to get this brand because I'm sure there might be tons of others That might be more affordable or you might like better But I ended up ordering two sets the original one and then a second one because I wanted to have The extras so I wanted to be able to have one in my pocketbook one in the car one in the motor home and One at home So hence, that's what I've been doing. Anyways, I think I got this the first one. I think I ordered it. My gosh Maybe about maybe about a month ago or three weeks ago or something of that nature hasn't been all that long I don't remember when I actually saw it on Facebook and And and then I ordered the second one. Well, I'm telling you I would've been working like crazy out in the barn that we're trying to fix up and Get back into, you know, barn shape condition, you know, can that my nails have just been anyway It's not so sharp my nails have been in chemical solutions and Degreaser's and this and that and I've been sanding and I've been filing and I've been painting and I've been moving heavy Furniture and my nails have been like really beat up. So I don't have pretty nails. I don't have a pretty manicure I really need to have my cuticles. I need to take care of them. I don't have any nail polish I bite my cuticles a lot So I haven't gone anywhere, but I am so thrilled if you are a natural nail person And I know not everyone is but if you are a natural nail person meaning that you're not going to go and have a lot of polish put on or or where, you know, it go to the swan and have them the The powder dip I used to love my powder dip I miss it every day because my nails look so beautiful But if you don't do that if you if you're you know, your lifestyle is a number one It's you don't have the time to do it or maintain it or it's it's expensive, right? You don't have that time frame and you have natural nails and you just want to be more natural nails If your natural nails have been like mine that have been like crappy and oh my gosh Have they ever been crappy think about a Glass nail file and I'll put the link below. It probably is gonna bring you to miss Melissa M. I'm not too sure If I did it, I don't know. Anyways, I'll put the link below and I got it from Amazon just so You can check them out if you like so it's been crazy since we came home We came home Memorial Day weekend. We went away and went to Bailey's and up in Old Orchard Beach, Maine We had a great trip It was a long weekend. So it wasn't when I think of a vacation I think of somewhere when we go for seven ten days and not have a care in the world That wasn't that type of a trip But we had a long weekend and I still had a lot of cares that I had to take care of But we just had a long long weekend and it was really lovely at up in Old Orchard Beach while we were up in Old Orchard Beach, we did a lot of biking and I have been on a quest for you know sun protection and sunscreen and all that trying to be super diligent and Mainly because of I have most surgery coming up and then I've recently have two other spots that popped up It seems to be the way it goes Which I have not had tested yet. They're putting me on a prescription cream that I'm going to put on those two spots I'm waiting for it to come in because the at the at the drugstore. It was like even Even with the insurance paying for a part of it. It was still astronomical So I ordered something from my from my my dermatologist So that should arrive in a couple of days and put that on these two spots and treat that for four days But anyways long story short I've been really super diligent about trying to protect my skin with sunblock and all that To the point of when I ride my bike I wear a helmet I might look so gorky and deaky, but I have two of these sun Visors that are I think they are 50 SPF Think it's 50 SPF. I have to look it up I have a black one and I have this blue one and I love them. They are so Stinking comfortable. You can put them around your head and you have a little you have you can tie them tighter You can pull a ponytail out. You don't need to put a ponytail above or below But I actually put these on and put the helmet all in sort of picture in here I know I look good geeky weird But that's what they do and it gives me my I have my black one I think in the picture it gives me a ton of shades if I can find a link I will but I believe I bought these in a store And I just don't remember which store but if I can find a link I'll put them I'll put the link in there So I've been wearing those and I've been wearing a ton of sunblock And then because I wear my hair up a lot my bio hair up a lot and my bio hairs very thin I've been struggling with wanting to have like just pull it back and have a ponytail But I get I pull it back and have this little stinky stump and then when I my wraps, right?  It just slides out of my hair So I have one long ponytail that I've been thinning and thinning, but I still it's it's too much hair So I took one of the smallest wraps that I have right hair wraps and I maneuvered it so I pulled the elastic out so it's an elastic. I don't know if you guys can see that It's an elastic So I put this in my ponytail and I can wrap it around and I can have it as a ponytail hanging off The back of my hair and I can still if I want to I can still put a claw clip underneath it But I don't need to because this does not weigh down My bio hair and it does not slide out. I just do have to wrap it twice So I don't know how long this is gonna hold on hold up But this is sort of a custom job. I just took a regular the smallest Bun wrap that I could find because there are some that are smaller or lighter And there's some that are more curly or more voluminous and I took the smallest one and I played with it I thinned it. I took some hair out and then I pulled it like this with the wrap and I didn't want to do it I didn't want to take the the elastic off completely But I wanted it to be able to go and wrap around and be like a ponytail I'm super happy with it. Super happy with it. So if I'm riding my bike Whether or not I have this on or not, but if I did have this on in the summer I could just have this like cute little stinking ponytail hanging off the back. I love it So I did that I created that myself But you're wearing the visor under my and I have a really good helmet of a helmet What is it MP3? It's rated really high rating for if you fall and you have a head injury and all that So it was like a little bit concerned if I took a heavy visor and had too much play in my helmet the safety So this is just super thin and of course the visor part doesn't affect the helmet at all But that's what I've been that's what I've been wearing and I I love it So I did that and I'm loving the glass nail files. I just think they're so they're so this so cool I have I Have been under a ton of stress, right? I mean, I know I've been under a ton of stress. It's just been really everything it's been super stressful and You know my most surgery was postponed. It was just be June first. It's been being put It's been postponed.  It's like a precancerous thing. So the screen It's a prescription That I have coming in and I'm only gets going to spot treat for four days twice a day and what it does It brings it out. It's scaly and then it goes away if there's nothing there Nothing will happen if there's no precancerous or whatever like if I would just put it on a piece of my skin And there was no issue there. Nothing would happen apparently So I'm going to try that for this and then on the 20th I go for my Mohs surgery assuming it does not get postponed of course, that's the worst time for me because my mother-in-law's coming for a visit and Then we have 4th of July, right? I didn't want to go away right before I didn't want to have this done right before 4th of July. I Know that for at least a while I am not going to be able to wear my glasses and I wear reading glasses So, you know, and they're actually bifocals. So I I wear my glasses a lot in my everyday life and Not only to read but to see but I'm not going to be able to wear them because of where the Mohs surgery is going to be so I just didn't want to have to Do it in a very busy time frame in my life beginning of July we have a run a university at work where we where I teach a lot and You know, it's important that I can see what I'm looking at So I'm going to have to adapt Apollo be sitting there with a magnifying glass or something of that nature But it's been crazy. So anyways, I have um, I Know I'm a major major Advocate for CBD now right now. You see everything CBD CBD gummies CBD oil CBD hair stuff, you know CBD is everywhere everywhere Was it last year or two years ago when I first started talking about CBD and YouTube actually took my video down It's still down because they thought it was promoting something That I should have been promoting and I did dispute it. I said, you know what? I'm talking about CBD oil That's it. So anyway, since that time, I've of course experienced a lot more CBD products I buy locally from a Store that sells CBD sleep tincture and I put that in a little bit of water and drink it and that's really really helped Well a little bit ago On the Octoly network. I saw something from a company called Vita Optima the ID a O P T I am a Optima Vita Optima and what they did is they have a bunch of CBD products So this CBD is called a dream CBD and it's a thousand milligrams It's comprised of CBN and CBD oil and it also has something in there called and I'm gonna put you this name I have the paper in front of me Asha Wakanda. Anyways, it is a It is an Indian winter cherry or Indian agensing and it's from an evergreen shrub And it's found in India, Africa and parts of the Middle East Research has shown that this can help normalize Cortisol levels and you know cortisone levels right can really cause a lot of stress if they're out of whack So by normalizing quarter cortisone levels, they are reducing stress responses. So I Was like, oh, you know, because I had heard of that ingredient even though I can't pronounce it I'd heard of it and I've heard about the benefits of it for your cortisone levels for stress So I looked at it and I said hmm. It's got CBD and CBN CBN is an other cannabinoid that you know has a bunch of different therapeutic effects It says there's a ton of research out there, but there's still a lot more to be learned about this So I just thought I'm gonna try it. So I requested it. This was sent to me complimentary from the Octolene network from Vita optima in the Octolene network complimentary in exchange for a review So I got this gosh, you know with Octolene you have to do your reviews in 21 days And sometimes that's really super hard for me, but I got this it's been about two weeks so I'm coming up against the gun and I took this with me camping and now usually I don't have a ton of problems falling asleep camping But I've had a lot of worrying stuff happening So I took it camping. I took it when I came home and it has totally It's a game changer. I for me This has been a super game changer as far as falling asleep It told I could it didn't start like the first few nights. I didn't really feel any difference. I'm like, oh, man You know not gonna work but Slowly it started to I could feel my body starting to adapt to it and adjust to it And I increased my dose slowly you take it you put it under your tongue and you hold it there for 20 or 30 seconds And then you swallow and I could I could really feel it. So anyways, what I'm what I'm saying is this a dream? CBD oil CBN CBD oil and Maybe it's the combination of the ingredients that they have in there But there's a ton of research and what I really like about this too is that you can read their lab results So I'm gonna link of course the octal e information But going further go on to their website read the lab results because that's really the super impressive thing for me So I love this again sent to me complimentary from the octal e network from up from the video Vita Optima Don't say in it right and I really like this I think this is a from and I know we're all different right? I mean you could try this and it might not work for you I know somebody who who tries the gummies you can buy on the counter I cannot think of the name of them now and swears by them, but they don't work for me They never put me to sleep So we all react to products differently, but this has been really cool This has been a game changer for me. So I really like it I'll leave all the information in my my link below so you can read it if you like I do have some empties that I'm gathering and I'll probably do that as a separate video But I just I wanted to do this quick video Hopefully not too much editing because I'm gonna go out and finish a paint job that we're doing But I wanted to share the results of my ponytail because I had mentioned this that I was doing this right now this is a little bit I Typically this is an older piece, but typically the hair is a lot softer This is a little bit on the crunchy side. So I'm gonna give it a little bit of a silicone bath and I'm not too concerned because when I have a ponytail Right, it's not I mean it's it's contained It's not like I want something that's gonna be long and fly away and flow way and you know in slow motion You see the ponytail bounce So my hair is short and so having a smaller Ponytail or something that I modified into a ponytail just seems perfect for me because I haven't been able to find one I find some that are lighter That I could work with but if it's a pure ponytail no matter what I do even the ones with the combs And I have some of those they just pull down on my hair. They're too heavy for my little stinky ponytail so that's that so On my head I have I have a review video out on this and I haven't published it yet But on my head, I think this now granted I have this tucked in behind But I think this is I Think this is awesome. I love the angle of this wig. I love the back And I and you can pull both forward one forward you can wear your sunglasses You can put it under a thizer. I really love this way This is a Henry Margot wig and this is Katie and Katie is I mean really cool. I just love love the stacked chick look of Katie I loved how the neckline is feathered. It's got very very soft bangs It has a little bit of a monofilament. It has monofilament. It has lace front. It's just really a pretty pretty wig I think for synthetic this this is just Throw-and-go so that's what I have on today I've actually worn Katie a couple of times out and about and she's held up super well and she's so cute now She's a little blonder than I like for me So I'm seriously going to look at the colors and see if I can pick this up in another color But this is the color 25 gr In this I'm reading a golden blonde highlighted blend with hints of strawberry, and I think you can see that Now what I did is Let me show you what I did I sprayed her with divine dark petite divine dark Just to try to bring down some of the blonde. It really doesn't change the color much, but that's what I sprayed her with This is a dry shampoo. Sometimes you use this to take out the shine, but the divine dark I think just gives you a little bit more dimension, but I just feel this is a little bit too Blonde for me.  What can you say about Henry Mago? Their lace front is awesome and Henry got Mago makes some awesome products awesome products So this wig was said to me complimentary and you can find her Probably in most retailers. I'm gonna link a few that I know below and Yeah, check her out. I think she's so cute. So anyways, that's it for me. I hope this isn't too long Thank you so much for coming back and joining me. I know I've been not very responsive Just a whole lot of stuff going on Love you all. Thank you


I was a most impressive meeting. The Prime Minister, of course, is a very impressive person who understands business, which is very encouraging as well. The Prime Minister talked about his dreams for India and his ethic, which was a really powerful message. Australian Super does invest in India, of course, and in particular the National Indian Infrastructure Fund. And we've had very good experience in investing in India.