I will mention at this point that we did get the, received a resignation of Director Isaac Gonzalez due to other commitments. So our quorum is now currently four and we have three empty seats. Three empty seats, I believe. We have a very six, that's good. But we're working on that. So we can move on to oral communications. Any person may address the board during oral communications. And that's intended for items not listed on today's consent or regular agenda. Is there anybody who'd like to address the board during oral communications? All right, seeing none, we can move on to item number three. Any late additions or deletions to the consent or regular agendas? Is there anything that needs to be changed? Seeing none, we can move right along to the consent agenda which is to approve the minutes of the board meeting June 24th. I believe there was a spelling change requested. It's fine, we can, yes. My last name is filled with only one N. The future, but we didn't really need to correct that in the minutes, I don't think. Okay. In fact, I'll move approval. Oh, second that. All right, we have a motion from Director Maheim, a second from Vice Chair Rand. Any for the discussion? Seeing none, I'll call the vote. All in favor, please say aye. Any opposed? That carries unanimously. All right, now we can move on to something that's very exciting, which is item number five, which is to accept the report from the Ad Hoc Strategic Planning Committee and adopt the strategic plan that they came up with. So I believe we have a presentation. Did Emeritus Board Member, who's gonna start with the presentation? Director, oh, Director Maheim will start. No, no. Former Director Benjamin. Director Emeritus Benjamin will begin. Thank you so much for coming today and for serving on the committee. Would you like to come and sit here? Whatever the board would like. I think it would be nice. There's enough space here. Please, you don't have to loom above us. You don't have to tower. I had no intention of looming. I had no intention of looming. Enlightening. Blooming. We'll see about that. Thank you to the board. My name's Nathan Benjamin, as some of you may recall, and I'm formerly a board member here at CTV. I was asked to participate in the Strategic Planning Committee around about January or so. So for about the last six months or so, the committee has been meeting and working on its report, which has been presented to the board. I want to mention and thank the members of the committee because everybody involved put in a lot of time and effort, and I hope that the report reflects that. Keith, Gudger, Becca, Reed, Matilda Rand, and Judy Owen were also members, and Tom, Mannheim, were also members on the committee, and we all worked hard and effectively, I think, together under the board's direction to come up with a strategic plan for the continued operation and development and growth of community television of Santa Cruz County into the future. We essentially wanted to look at what will it look like in the future if community television is to thrive and to succeed. And at the board's direction, the committee met and drafted this plan, but I want to point out that we early on distinguished a strategic plan or a glimpse into the future from the action steps or techniques that would be necessary to fulfill that plan. And to be clear, what we attempted to come up with was what would it look like in the future and how would CTV thrive in the future, not necessarily what are the particular action steps to get there or make that happen. So in an effort to map out that plan, the committee identified three primary areas of focus, and this is reflected in the plan, namely, number one, strategic or strengthening of the organization going forward. The relationships, for example, that would need to be built upon in order to strengthen the organization going forward. And then, obviously, the operation of the channels that CTV operates going forward. And the third area of emphasis was building on technology use and skills and bringing that technology and skills development out into the community. And again, this plan provides what we hope is something of a roadmap or a set of goals. And I think there is a separate set of discussions and perhaps a separate committee that the board, I would suggest, might appoint in order to discuss the specific action steps, the implementation steps or tactics that would be employed in order to reach these goals. But I believe the strategic plan lays out those goals in a clear enough manner that any buddy that the board might appoint could gather together and formulate those action steps moving forward. So that was our goal, and I hope that the document reflects that we've met a goal, met that goal, and really that we met the vision for CTV, which is to empower our community to thrive in a digital world. And that digital world, obviously, is upon us and happening ever more rapidly. And so I hope the plan that we laid out will be well received by the board. Thank you very much, Nathan. So I really appreciate that you're putting all that time and effort into it. And yes, it is quite a meaty document. So I appreciate that you are here and Director Mannheim are gonna present it to us. We're all actually going to, we've divided it up in a section. So I'm going to start and then we'll work our way through the document. As we start, I just want to remind the board that we did bring the mission and vision with some, the vision is new and some minor changes to the mission to the board last week. And last month and the board did approve that. So a lot of that, those changes and this document work together because we really were trying, we realized as we went through it and talked about our priorities as an organization, there could be some tweaking to the mission and vision, which we did and then, and then that really guided a lot of the work in terms of trying to prioritize our strategic plan for the future. So I'm going to talk about strengthening the organization in the first section there, CTV must expand opportunities to generate unrestricted income. So you're probably all aware of this with a little background on sort of our financing, I think is really helpful for this. All of our money comes from the city and county of Santa Cruz. And that money comes from the cable front, I actually, I should correct that, not all of our money, but all of our capital dollars come from the city and county. Historically, it was all coming from the city and county and we received that money without any restrictions. The money that the city and county pays us to operate the channels is money that they receive from the cable companies in Santa Cruz County. And that money is essentially money that the cable companies pay for the right to use the public rights of way as they run their cables so that we can all get cable PV or internet service, whatever. So the city and county gets franchise fees and then they get a separate fee called a PEG fee. PEG stands for Public Education and Government Access. And those are the three channels that we provide programming for. We operate those channels and provide that programming for those channels. For the Comcast system, it's channels 25, 26 and 27. The charter, it's 71, 72 and 73. There is a catch. Before July of 2014, all of the money we received from the county was unrestricted. We could use that to fund our capital expenditures. We could use that for salaries, for offices, for whatever. It was both our operating and our capital expenditures. That changed in July of 2014. It changed because of some regulatory changes and some other changes that happened we have been operating or the county and city have been operating under basically a settlement of a lawsuit that ended then. And so in July of 2014, we suddenly faced a situation where our dollars could only be used for capital dollars. So we can buy equipment, we can't pay salaries, we can't pay for office expenses, we can't pay for contracts with auditors or maintenance, any of those things, which created, as you can imagine, quite a challenge for us. Did that settlement just sunset? Is that why that ended? The settlement sunsetted in 2014. And we actually, the organization knew that was coming for some time, but as you can imagine, it's quite an adjustment to make. Right, okay. Starting in 2015 as a solution of that, we partnered with the satellite telework centers to create the current facility we're in, which is the satellite co-working space and digital media center. The only one of its kind actually probably anywhere in the country. It's an interesting combination. The center not only rents shared workspace and offices, the local entrepreneurs and others in the community, but also provides a state of the art digital media center that's available both to CTV members as well as videographers and other digital media creators. All of the revenue that that partnership creates provides our operating revenues. So that's the good news. I mean, the good news is that as opposed to where we were three or four years ago, we now are a stable organization with stable funding that funds both the operations through our partnership and we continue to have the dollars that we get from the city and county for capital expenditures. The bad news is we don't expect it to provide enough revenue for CTV to expand its services. It's where we need to be to provide the services that we currently provide. Those services that we currently provide are less than what we were able to provide back prior to 2014 when we had much more staff to help with productions, to go out and cover things in the community. So the upshot of all of that is that we really need to find other sources of unrestricted income going forward. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Matilda. Thank you, Tom, for a very clear explanation. I hope I can be as clear. Now it can be assumed that anytime there is a change, there's also a change in the accountability and the way we need to collaborate with people within the community. And that's both maybe a burden, but at the same time, I believe it is a great benefit for all of us in the community. So we have to prove to the city and the county that we're worth to maintain this collaboration with them to operate these three channels. But we also, it moves us to really reach out to the community and show them what we have, what we can do for them and how we want to be accountable to the community. So we looked at several ways of developing and growing relationship with different community organizations, and we think that is really critical for our future. So we discussed nonprofits, we provide them with opportunities to highlight, to put a spotlight on them, and reaching out, helping them to reach out to people who may benefit from them, but as well as maybe get more potential volunteers. So that's one. The second one is, of course, educational institutions. We have on our board two seeds, reserves for education, one for K-12 and one for post-secondary. And we are very proud of our equipment grant program, where organizations, educational organizations, but also other nonprofits who work with youth on video and different media, they can apply for a grant and then it's around a $50,000 grant where they get lots of equipment and can go and reach those youth to help them become media-assisted. The third part, of course, are the government institutions. We provide meeting coverage for the city, for the county, for several districts, special districts, the Parovaya Unified School District also. And we believe that it's our mission to inform people about community issues using our channels, because it's really at the core of our mission. Then we also looked at news organizations because we think we can amplify the work of local news organizations. There'll be opportunities to partner with them. And so this is kind of an exciting new avenue for us to reach out. And so we're going to try to reach out to them too. And then, of course, we can't forget about the private sector. Don't forget that they're a big part of our community and when we add facilities and equipment, we must remain aware of their needs and how they can use technology that we have, I mean, their career. So then I'm going to give it back to you, Don. Yep. So the next section is increasing outreach to government liaisons. And as I mentioned earlier, obviously all of the money we get comes from the city and county and all of the money they get that comes to us at least, comes from the cable companies. The cable companies have both in California and nationally have a very strong lobbying presence, both at the state and federal level. And PEG funds, the funds for public education and government access, reducing or eliminating those is frequently a target for them. So it behooves us to stay very aware of what's going on within that level, both at the state and federal level, and to engage when there are efforts to try to eliminate that funding. CTV as an organization has limited ability to influence rulemaking at the FCC level or legislation in Congress. We are members of the Alliance for Community Media, which is the association of PEG organizations around the country, but that is just one group and not the most influential group when it comes to these kinds of things. Cities and counties have much more influence. You've got the National League of Cities at the national level, the League of California Cities statewide. There's an organization called the National Association of Telecommunication Officers. Nato? Natoa. No, not Natoa, Natoa. National Communication Officers and Advisors. Nato would be a different organization. We're going to give Nato a stand up. And those three organizations actually are fairly engaged both at the federal level and the state level, watching out for these kinds of things. So we think it behooves us going forward to make sure that we are working closely with the city and county and working with them to make sure they're aware of any efforts that threaten our funding and that we can work together to oppose those efforts. And with that, I think it goes back to you, Matilda. But there will be others along the way here at some point. That was like we were playing ping-pong. So in this, you know, this section is all about strengthening the organization. So within that, we're talking about technical skills. And we realize that if we want to help the community become technically savvy, we better make sure that we know our own equipment and develop our own technical skills. So in order to do that, you know, for the latest and the newest technology, we need to establish some collaborative form. Right now, we have the Volunteer Advisory Committee and within that we have the program was called the Director and Producers, sorry. I'm talking radio stuff right now. Producers and directors group. And they do what we say here, you know, at a certain level is that we join as a group. We take on, for instance, there was this whole segment on a green screen. And so a couple of people came together. They developed some kind of curriculum and they set it up and they actually videotaped it. And it will at some point be available. So that is an example of how we can work together and how we can have volunteers come together and really study particular new technology and strengthen our own skills. The other part, in order to have volunteer leaders then, we need to recruit and develop them. And so I think that is a very, since we're really based on volunteer support, we need to develop that. At this point, we have volunteers earn credit to do specific things for the organization, including giving classes such as camera and audio classes or work, as some of these people work here for our board meeting on camera. So there's a number of areas where we could develop more support. Equipment maintenance, for instance. Equipment training, content production and volunteer recruitment and online services. So I'll highlight a few of them. I won't mention all of them. But right now, for instance, with equipment maintenance, we have little capacity for maintenance. It used to be in the past when we had employees, they would take care of it. So we are looking right now in volunteer leaders who will take on the maintenance and they'll develop a certain process on when equipment is failing, how it gets to be from sitting there failing, being looked at, either be disposed of or fixed or whatever, and bring it back into the rotation. So there's a need for that. And I know that Keith has started setting up part of that with the help of one of our volunteers. I know. I'm blanking on your name. Bill? Bill. Bill. Isn't that funny? But anyway, Phil's done a great job and Keith are working on that system. So we already started with that. Training, we could have more online training. And I know that the leader of our producers and directors, Lina Genakis, has already developed with some other people some videos about specific equipment, such as, for instance, the green screen. And the way that it's set up here specifically, rather than general principles. Exactly, exactly. That's great. I mean, all we'll have to do with how we work here because I think that's what people want to know. Then we are talking about, you'll hear some more about it later, so I won't say much about it. But we're looking into more automation, and then of course it would be great since volunteers work with a lot of the equipment and the studio that there would be input. So we're looking forward to set that up. And then volunteer recruitment. And I think I mentioned that it's an important part of our work, so we need to recruit volunteers. But we can also think about more production support. We have in the volunteer advisory group, a couple of people have developed a possible way of doing that, but we're also thinking of maybe expanding on what Keith and Karen have started. This is Spotlight, the spotlight on the electives, where Becca is our host, and the spotlight on profits. But we can come up with or thinking of other spotlights on specific things that yet to be developed, but could be done regularly established here. So I think I'll leave it at that. There's a couple more things, but I think that basically covers where we need to go with empowering technical skills and recruiting and developing volunteer leaders. Okay, I think Becca is next. Yeah, so the next thing we're doing along this line is looking into automation opportunities. As we want to be the leaders in technology and we want to be disseminating leading technology, we should be using leading technology. And some of that has worked in the past for us, automation, people used to bring their programs to us on many formats, and we would then, for Victor would have to change them and convert them over and we had to have a lot of different softwares to convert the various different formats into the final format that we need. And then it still had to be uploaded and still has to be scheduled. And now the automation is such that people can upload their own programs. They're automatically converted and they go into a place where Victor can then schedule them. So our next step is to get the scheduling automated, if we can, we'd like to look into that. And also, we have a couple of volunteers who manage all the people that want to make shows and people call them when they want to do it and reserve their space. So it's a couple of human beings, Keith and his wife, Karen, do that work and they reserve the studios and they get the crews and they do all of that by hand, making phone calls and all of that. And it would be great if we could find a way to automate that so that not because it's great that they do this for us, but it's just a lot of work. And if they ever decide they want to go on a vacation that everybody's on vacation because no one can schedule anything. So it's a good idea to get them out of that loop. We want to just stay with CTV but we don't want them to have to do that task that needs to be done all the time. We can't depend on volunteers for it or we shouldn't. We've been lucky to, we've been depending on it for about four years. So we've got to do something else. And we also want to do some really interesting things in automation. It still takes about four to eight crew people to do a show as you can see right now. This is a pretty simple show. There's four, I think there's six people here tonight. So that is a lot of people to have to gather. And one of the things that might be a barrier to enter here is if people don't know the group and want to do something, they don't know how to get a group together to help them. They don't know, they can ask Karen, but it'd be better if we could maybe make it possible for those shows to be done with less people. So maybe they just need some key people and then the rest can be done automatically. So what's happening in a lot of the larger news stations and several community television stations is automated cameras. And I don't mean the little eh, kind of things that hang from the ceiling, but real robots that move around the studio and get the shots. And they're really great. You can program them ahead of time with all the shots you want. And the shots come up as an image on a touch pad. And when you want that shot, you touch the image and the camera goes. And so there's never a like eh, eh, eh, it's just, it just goes there, it gets the shot. It's all very smooth. They're programmed not to run into each other or to hit a human. So I'm really excited to try that out in here. I think that'll be really fun. But I think better, I think it empowers us to enable people to learn the cutting edge studio procedure so they could go and get, especially our youth, younger kids could go out and get jobs with that. But that's a really powerful thing. Although no one's running the cameras, someone is running the robots. So it's a really a good thing for us to be teaching and it really puts us as a leader. We'd be one of two that I know of studios that do that, they're community television studios. But further, a step further than that is people being able to run their own show. They can be on the show and run it too, which is kind of unbelievable, but you can do it. And people, it's a little bit of a learning curve, but you can do it. So if you didn't know anybody and you wanted to do a show, you could come here and you wouldn't have to do a lot of networking. Not that that's bad, but you could do your own show by yourself, which I think is really interesting. And I think that will put his head and shoulders above any level of distributing and sharing and being the technology leader. I think that would really be a good thing for us. And it would be good for our team. I assume that equipment is probably fairly costly though. Yes, but we can afford it. Okay. Within our means. Yeah, we've been saving up. So we're, yeah, we could do it. And we could, if we wanted to, we could, well, there's probably three levels and we would start out at one level, move to the next and move to the next. It's just, but basically we'd start off with the studio and then the last thing would be someone who could run their own show all by themselves. But yeah, yeah, yeah, there are tiers, but it's doable for us. And the other, well, I think that's it in this. Yeah, yes. Let's make sure, you know? So that's it in the area of automation. And now it's Keith Dodger will speak to us about the operation of the channels and more. Yeah, that's an interesting title there, and more. I love that more. So we talked about a lot of this already. I think it's clear that we have three distinct channels. We talked about them being public education and government, we covered government meetings, which is really about allowing the citizens of this county to have access to their government. That's the core part of our values and that's the core thing that we do. But we also have a public access channel and we talked about that some. The public access channel allows anyone in this county to upload material to play on our channel. And we have a policy that anything anyone uploads plays at least once. So that's a key part of our public access policy. We will, according to our strategic plan, we decided we would look for additional options for streaming, beyond just the internet and our channels. So that's a strategy for the future. Moving on to the use and provide access to state-of-the-art equipment. Becca talked about some of the state-of-the-art equipment for automating cameras. We have a responsibility to have the most up-to-date equipment we can have. Since we do have the funding, it sort of means that we have a responsibility to have the best and latest and greatest equipment, which we can then train members of our community to use the latest and greatest. And Becca touched on the fact that that's great for youth. They can be up on what's available and what they would find if they were out at a professional production facility. And I think it's good for our volunteers too. I think it helps drawing people to know that we have the latest and that they can get trained. But that brings it back to us. How do we get training for that? We can get training for the staff, but it's going to be an interesting, and when we look at tactics, is how we bring in that state-of-the-art training for our volunteers as well. And again, I also think that's a draw to have the great equipment and to have the training on how to use it. And Becca, I'm sorry, Matilda mentioned the maintenance, and we're starting to look at ways to improve the maintenance because our contract prohibits of spending paid money for maintenance, which puts us in sort of a bizarre situation in that we can buy a new camera, but if it breaks, you can't do anything about it. And we don't like that. And part of the plan, and I'm sure you read, that we have been handling that with volunteers, finding equipment, getting it fixed, getting it back in, and we've got a lot of equipment here that's gone way beyond what we might expect the life to be just because we've had people who are willing to work on it. Those are a number of us who like to tinker. That's really been a good approach. But I think we need to formalize that and we've talked some in this plan about different ways that we could formalize maintenance and disposal of equipment and replacement. And then the last section that I'm gonna talk about is to provide quality and informative programming. And this, the committee spent a lot of time on talking about what does it mean to have quality programming and how do we provide that? And there is some controversy, but let's just talk about it a little bit. There's two parts of it. There's production standards for the equipment and how you do that, but there's also operating procedures and content. How do we get the best content and how we make sure that it's presented in the best way? And again, that's more training that would be really great for us to find a way tactically to bring a better training on how to do better standards for the productions. One of the things that's happened as we lost funding is we missed a lot of opportunities for quality programming. It could be of interest to our community. If we were able to get more funding through our efforts to bring in more funds to community TV, we have a number of areas that we identified that we would like to provide that kind of program in our channel. The first one are community and electoral forums. And this idea sort of initiated the whole strategic plan process. We don't have an election this year, but we have a big election next year. And we would like to provide some form of coverage or forums or discussions that we weren't able to in the last election cycle. So that's sort of at the top of our list. And then other civic events as well. High school sports programs came up. That's going to be addressed a little later. Any other program of interest to community, candidate debates by non-partisan organizations. And another idea is candidate statements. Right now, candidates get a written statement that they pay for it and the voter's guide. But we're also wondering if there is another way we can work with our candidate clerk to provide video statements for candidates. That's just an area. Some of the areas that we brought up strategically we'd like to address. And we're hoping that when we meet for the tactics that that can be addressed. Matilda mentioned that we have the spotlights for nonprofits and elected officials. We'd like to cover the arts and culture as well. And we're not really doing that. That's being covered by public access producers and that's wonderful. We'd like to see more of that because as we all know in Santa Cruz County it was quite a magnet for artists. That would be a great thing. And we mentioned the youth grant program for high school sporting events. And we would love to find a way to have the resources to do more outreach. Listed in the plan are high schools, Cabrillo and UCSC. I mean, we've always tried to do that. We've limited success and we'd like to increase the amount of outreach if possible. Yeah, any other sporting events as well. We don't really care about our channels. So that's it. Back to Becca. Okay, well, I'm going back to state of the art equipment. State of the art equipment gal. We use state of the art equipment and if we have it here, we want to probably train others. Oh, that's Keith. Actually, wait a minute. You're number two. That's good, no wonder. I thought that was not as familiar as it should be. Not by such a, I'm wondering why are we going back? So one of the things we want to do with the equipment is facilitate the creation of content. And as Keith said, you know that we get content in a few ways and our real mission is to get people in the community to produce content about the community for the community. That's like the big thing. And no one can really do it better. I mean, we're not exactly in the media shadow here, but we don't have, there used to be a bureau for all the Selena stations here and there aren't anymore. So there aren't a lot of reporters in town doing news. I mean, we've got the newspaper, but we don't have television news. So having people shine a spotlight on the things that interest them in the community or issues in the community that they find important in their neighborhood that maybe don't get out to the other neighborhoods. And things that they just are interested in is important and part of our mission. And we have been, for a long time, part of the deal here is you come and you don't have to know anything and we train you and you know how to use our equipment and our studio and you can make programming. That's a really interesting system here because there's nobody in charge of it. Volunteers run it themselves. It's run by, there are a couple of leaders from the board, Matilda Rand, our vice chair and Keith our board chair emeritus run that themselves. So there's not like a paid staff member in charge of coordinating all of this, it's volunteers. And they do a great job and they're passionate about it and it's wonderful, but we're losing them over time. There's attrition and we haven't been able to replace them. So we need to come up with ways of training new, I think Matilda spoke about training new community leaders and that sort of the thing. We need to fill the pipeline with people like them coming up from behind and learning those skills and passing them on so that there's always a certain number of certain level of trained people here who can teach and pass on the skills because we really can't, we don't have a person that we can't hire a person to do that. So it depends on volunteers and volunteers really keep the place running, they do a lot of work here and that's our mission that they handle. So it's really important and we wanna make sure it goes on and we wanna certainly honor those who have been doing it but I'm sure they'd like to catch the baton at some point. So we need to get training more and we're looking at ways to find people in the community who we might train to do this and we haven't identified anyone in particular. We are outfitting a lot of high school students with gear, the same gear we have here, so they're learning, so they're potential and we'd like to reach out to the universities too and one possibility would be interns but interns require supervision and management and they have to learn things and they've gotta progress to a certain process and someone has to manage that. So we're not able to do that now but that's something that we could do in the future, it's a strategic plan. So it's out there, we just to keep our eye on it, keep our eyes on how we might be able to make that happen, providing those training programs and it's been, it's worked out great for the moment so we wanna do a better job of building those classes and keeping those trainers going. Turn it back over to Keith. So on the third section where it is called, Building Technology Use and Technical Skills in the Community, we had a part of this overview which is what I'm going to discuss and our mission, a great part of it is to provide tools and training. What's happened in the last 30 years of CTV is the internet kind of changed everything. People don't look at our channels as the primary access point to get their information to the community, whether they go to YouTube or some of the other options. So that's fundamentally altered our methods and basically our relevance in a lot of ways. So there are some areas that we could provide some more information that would be useful to the community, it could be somewhat more curated. A couple that came up out of the plan were healthcare and education. I think those are areas that we think would be useful. And again, we said, the continued development use of technology assets depends on a deeply literate population. And so again, that's part of our mission, is make sure that we can train as many people to be digitally literate as possible. We have a hands-on hub here of technology. We need to find a way strategically to get that available to more people. And we list individual students, adults. So what we wanna do is get that state-of-the-art equipment out into the community so people can use it and learn to use it. And we've done a few things to do that. We've distributed a lot of equipment to schools, so that schools that have video training so that they can use that equipment and learn how to use it. And because of our unique funding structure, we can continue to acquire really good digital media assets so that we can stay up to date, which is good. But just keeping the equipment isn't really helpful if we can't get it into the hands of other organizations. So we'd like to push out that equipment to as many people as we can. One way we're doing it is through leases. Venues who make, especially in covering the arts, venues who are doing performances and that sort of thing. And like fine arts performances can get equipment from us and document all of those performances and those can come on our air and we can share them with the residents here in Santa Cruz, which is a good way. And it's a really great way to create content for us and that we are able to make that happen for those venues who might want to do it really cutting edge equipment at a very affordable way. And so they don't have to put out a chunk of money in the beginning, but we take care of that. And then they pay us a payment over five years and then they buy it all from us at the end for a dollar. So they can, and we've done one already and it's worked out really well and the venue really loves it and they're really excited to have done it. So we're kind of at, we've got a good test case and so we think we can go on and do more of those and you can imagine how many venues there are in Santa Cruz who do that sort of thing. We even now have a comedy club. So it's like all kinds of opportunities I think for that. We just need time to explore them. And that also does, it's a good thing for us because it brings us more operating dollars and that's always a good thing. We're always looking for those. Just to be clear, those lease payments can become unrestricted funds that we offer. Yeah, we do it, it's a five year lease and by that time that that equipment is off our fixed asset list and then if we can do it or we want to with it. So you can use those initial funds for capital purchases then convert them to the lease and that becomes, so it's passed through. Exactly, yeah, that's the ticket. So I was just about to thank you for that. That's my next paragraph. No, no, that was better. And we also, we rent equipment too and we really want to build up that business because it's good for everybody. It's a way for us to help young independent producers and production companies stay in business. We don't compete with them. We don't do that kind of work but we can provide them with very high end gear so that they can compete. Their stuff, their quality is very good because they have all the technology but they don't have to buy it. They can just use ours and they can rent it for, we have crazy nonprofit rates so people can rent the gear and that helps them stay in business and helps them be competitive and it also helps the people in Santa Cruz able to get really good production from local people and it keeps the locals who actually could afford to rent the gear from going to San Francisco or up on the peninsula to get it. So it's good, it's good for everybody. And we also came rent to businesses and one of the things that we've done is set up the RSVP which is the really simple Visio Place which is a nice experiment in automation as a matter of fact. Businesses can go in there and buy themselves at the touch of a button, record a demonstration of a product that they have or messages that they wanna put on their internet to the public or any kind of they're doing YouTube marketing or something like that. They can do their messages. They can record presentations that they may wanna give to staff and it's really easy for them. So we, and we hope that more businesses will come to use that and we also have all of our equipment of course is available to take out into the field so people can take it to their business and use it there. And we also, I think we've spoken about the youth grant program already so I won't go over that again but it's just a really good way of getting, we also get content from those students. We give them gear as long as they have a teacher who knows that, who can teach best practices that they really know their stuff and as long as they have a place to keep it safe then we put that equipment in the hands of the teachers and the students make programming after curriculum so they usually make some programming as they move through the unit so we usually get programmed from them quarterly and it's a really, it's good for us, we get programming. It's good for the students. They learn to make real things that can really go on television. And so it helps us. You wanna just mention real briefly the high schools that have it? Yeah. Oh yes, the high schools that have it are Watsonville High School and Aptos. Aptos. I always wanna say Herbert. I don't know why, but you caught me. Digital Nests, which is a non-profit. Yeah, Aptos and they do really great stuff and we also have it at Digital Nests. It's not high schools. Which is a non-profit. It's a lot of non-profit. It's a non-profit where it takes you a lot to get exposure, so it's really cool. Okay. So the last part here is providing training on state-of-the-art technology. So we have several ways of doing that as I mentioned earlier. We can do internships, but we're gonna, that'll be some time before we can do that because we have to have people who could teach the latest television procedures. So we would want kids not to walk in and be 10 years behind the times or something and make sure that, and they need to be managed. And so we can't do that quite yet. We really would like to make this be the place to, we should just be the place in Santa Cruz to go and learn new technology. That's our goal. We wanna have the best here and people should be able to come here and experiment. And you know, there's a giant organization in the Bay Area called BayVac and they've been doing that for a long time, but they just teach software. So we have hardware, so much more fun.  We're hoping they'll think, oh well I'll just go to CTV and learn that. So, then we wanna really partner and engage with the other nonprofits in the area. We really, we think that it's a way to leverage a big network. So if we can engage the other nonprofits, if we can be the convener and get all the nonprofits in a group. And then we can use, we can distribute these tools and training through them. We can really reach out to a broader area of the community so that we can use them to help inform and to bring students and interns and volunteers to us. And then they can support those organizations that they work with and support their constituents and fans as well. So we're hoping this year that our big push will be to try to get together with all the nonprofits, explain to them what we have and how they could use it and how their users can use it. I think that takes us to concluding comments. Thank you. So all of what's been discussed here, which is a part of the strategic plan that's been developed really illuminates the CTV vision, which is empowering our community to thrive in a digital world. And each of these topics that we've addressed are a way of achieving that vision. This strategic plan outline is intended to be a glimpse into how this organization survives into the future, how it thrives into the future. Again, as we said at the outset, this is not intended to be the specific action steps or techniques for getting there. This is not a discussion of the tactics for fulfilling these elements of the vision. Rather, this is a glimpse into the future and a separate step will be identifying the specific tactics to get there. And so in that regard, I believe one of the things that the board should consider doing is prioritizing. There are a series of goals. What are the tactics or action steps to get to each of those goals and what are the priorities among those goals? And again, some of the programs that we're doing, the efforts to get cutting-edge technology and equipment into the hands of high schools and kids, it's obvious that that's a wonderful thing that we're able to do. And it's obvious that that's one of the ways that you build into the future by giving kids the opportunity to learn this stuff and have that equipment in hand. But there are clearly a number of very specific action steps to get there. And some of that was touched on here at the 10,000-foot level. But I do think that the next step, and I think the committee agrees that the next step for this board is to digest this glimpse into the future and then set out the priorities and the action steps or tactics to achieve those priorities. And hopefully the strategic plan that we've presented to the board will give the board a head start in that effort. And if I can just add one thing, we do have a retreat scheduled for October. And I think this will be the subject of work at that retreat. So hopefully that's our opportunity to start following on this and moving forward. All right, awesome. Well, thank you very much to the members of the committee for the presentation. Do we have any comments, questions from the board? Looks like Director Hall. I just want to thank all of you. I've been somewhat disabled for the last week or so, so I've read every word of it. That's what it took. And I was really amazed at the work and thought that went into it. So first of all, thank you. And second of all, I remember reading something similar to this that was developed as to how this organization survived. And it was done at a different time and a different place. And I think it is important we look beyond what we have survived. And that's due to a lot of work of the volunteers and everybody else on the board and the community to a certain degree. So I think it's a great thing to put it on. We start thinking about it. And then we just work from there one step at a time. But it was a very comprehensive document. It was well written too. My first question is, who typed it all up? Tom and Nathan and people. So anyhow, thank you so much for your work on this. I would just like to reiterate that as a new board member. I really found it very helpful, some of the background explaining some of the rate, the differences between, I knew some of it about the capital monies and the unrestricted things and the operating and the challenge. And straight through conversion is a great idea and finding other sources of revenue in order to operate the organization. But I thought it was very thorough, well put together and I really appreciate it. And it'll be good to work on how to implement some of these things. Fantastic. Anything else? I just have a few things. Mention of the candidate statements. I don't know if it was the past city council election, but I know the one previously, I was not familiar with a lot of the candidates. And I think it was one of our producers who took it upon themselves to produce candidate statements of all the candidates. And I watched every single one of them and it really informed me in terms of who I wanted to vote for. So looking forward, I love that idea of making sure that it happens, whether or not an individual, one of our producers, if we as an organization can take that responsibility when it's not already being done by one of our members, I fully support that. When you mentioned streaming alternatives, Keith, I'm assuming like one of those would be like on demand, like being able to play programs that are scheduled in the rotation of community on demand without having to go through YouTube and deal with ads and all the suggestions that YouTube has become more and more cluttered and obnoxious, so to speak. I think that's a great idea. I'd love to see that happen. Automation, I think is a great thing. Of course, almost every one of those items, I was thinking, is that going to fall on Keith? That's one of our challenges. One of our challenges is to have a spread the load. I'm glad to hear that Phil is helping with maintenance currently. And yeah, David Goldman. Sorry? David Goldman. So I mean, automation is great and hopefully we can spread the load and find a number of people to undertake that. In terms of, yeah, training, I mean, I just got in the mail today of the Santa Cruz County Parks Guide for fall classes and I was talking to a member who called when community TV used to have summer camps for youth. So. That was a lot of work. Right. So I mean, I definitely want to see that happen. I'd love to see community TV classes listed in the Summer Parks Guide and you know, because those are getting mailed to every household in the city or the county and a lot of ice fall on that and we could get a lot of young people in here. You know, of course the challenge is finding the resources to do that, right? So, yeah, priorities. As Director Manai mentioned, this is going to be the focus of our board retreat and I'm sure we'll end up making some committees and trying to find, you know, it's an opportunity and a challenge to take this wonderful comprehensive plan and implement it and make it a reality. So. And remember it's going to take time. Right. But it isn't going to be the answer. It's a three-year plan, so. Yeah. I guess the first step is that the board approves. You're right. So yeah, I will entertain a motion and a second to adopt this plan. I think the authors should. I'd happily move that. I'll second it. Okay. All right, we have a motion by Dr. Mannheim. Second by Vice Chair Rand. Any further discussion or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Any opposed? Carries unanimously. All right, thank you so much. I appreciate it. We're going to take it for coming by. Thank you. So, do we need a break? No. We'll forge onward. I think we do have a break at some point. We're going to watch some PSAs, but next item on the agenda is number six, which is all of our Executive Director. Becca, are you ready for that? Yes, I am. I just, my computer doesn't like my password. Ah, okay. We're a business. I could loan you the hard copy. What? We're advancing technology. So, yes, okay. So this report is for June. I changed the timeframe I'm reporting on because of the way the days are, the years are moving on. I'm reporting for two weeks when I come and talk to you. It's two weeks and into the month and it's not enough to give you a good idea. So I'm going to start now with June and I'm going to give you update on what I know in July and then in next, in August, I'll give you the whole. September. Oh, that's right. No, August. So in September, I'll be goofed up again. So anyway, we'll start with finances. The co-working center was in profit in June when we met and I gave you the report. I didn't think it was going to be. It was a little low, but by the time the end of the month ended, we did it. So yeah, that was good. And we're on profit too. We're on pace to be in profit for July as well.  And last week, we had one of the founders of Netflix came in and did a podcast in there. So I was very excited about that. Anyway, podcasting, thank you all for it at CPE. Is that audio only? Uh-huh, yeah. So they go in the little room. It's a little room. I was like, how many of them were in there?  There used to be a whole closet there. One half of it is an edit suite. Now on the other end is the podcasting booth, which is actually an audio booth. So you can control it by in the other room. In the other half of the closet, you can control it and record with Pro Tools. But it's just a totally sonnexed everything, the ceiling, the door, all of it. And two people can fit in there and they would fit in three, Ian tells me. So we have the real nice microphones for that. And so they use some of our digital recording equipment also to record the podcast and the room. So it was great. And Ian set it up for them. They said, oh, they thought it was like a real studio where you just say what you want. You go there and it'll all be there. We're sort of a DIY kind of place. So Ian said, yeah, I'm sure I can do that for you. And then he did it. So it was great. So it's really exciting to see that. That part of our business sort of take a leap forward. Well, maybe a step forward. Under our paid services category, we did about 20 meetings in June and we'll be covering seven in July. What a good effort. And we have a couple of events that we're gonna be doing for our documentation department. And that's where we just go out and cover up event or a lecture or something like that. And we've got two coming up. And under staff, two of our technicians have departed, which is too bad. One of them's been with us for years and I'm really sad to see him go. Mike Oliphant, he's excellent. And another of our younger technicians is just graduating from school and so moving on, which happens a lot. We get a lot of great people from UCSC and then they graduate and go away. And so we're looking for replacements for them now. And in the equipment and facilities department, we have a date for our fiber. So this is what they say. This is the thing that we need to be approved, which should be improved on August 27th. So I've had that in two emails from them, so I believe it. And we'll find out in September if this happens. Also a very cool thing. I'm working with a company called Videolink TV and Zach Friend tipped me off to them. He goes up to a community media station in Mountain View to do live shots. And I was like, well, because I'm from Broadcast TV, I'm like, do they have a satellite ditch there? And that's not how they do it anymore. There's sort of like an internet or internet to satellite kind of thing. So he does them for NBC and Fox and all kinds of networks. So he said, I'd really rather that I do them at your place. I was like, well, that'd be excellent. So it took a long time for us to make the connection, but we finally connected and I told them about the RSVP and they have a way to do it either in the RSVP or in here. And because we have so much of the infrastructure together, it's just adding basically an encoder and a transmitter and off we go. So we might be able to, and I know we've been contacted in the past to do live shots and we haven't been able to do it. So this could be another little revenue stream for us. We were contacted recently by NewsHour from PBS. So there was somebody, I think the university that wanted to interview.  There's much opportunity up there. I used to book people and they'd have to book them over in Mountain View or someone would come over, which it raises the bar. So if there were some place here, it'd be great and they would love it. Yeah, well, maybe we can go and talk to them when we get this all signed up. I figure we go to see the speakers bureau and the PR folks and see if we can get some business here. Do we need our new internet connection to make this work or will what we have now work with that? I don't know. They haven't been here to look at what we've got. I'm assuming that what we have now would work because we do video on it now live. So I'm thinking it does. The fiber certainly would help. Yeah, it'll make it a lot faster. Question, is this a one-time equipment purchase or is there a monthly subscription in terms of? No, I haven't been able to speak with them. I think it's probably, it's a share. I don't think that we'll just get all the money because they have the link. We just get the gear. We might even have to pay for the gear. They might just put it here because they have the link. So we would get a part of the money and they would get part of it. So it'd be like having a satellite truck come over and parking them. They would get some and we could get some. Yeah, but we get some, which is great. The room is just there empty right now. Moving on to communications. We have been doing First Fridays as you know and we did one in June and in August we're having Brian Garrison photography. We kept the June up through July because it was really interesting and there was some holidays in July so we didn't wanna short change our next artist by having them only get three weeks or something. So we went, we just kept the paintings for the month and are doing another one in August and Ian has been trying for a long time. Ian is our coordinator for the co-working space. He's been trying for a long time to do movie nights here and he's finally got it all lined up. So we're doing, on July 26th we'll have Manos with a Hand of Fate, which is apparently a classic film. I've never heard of, but it is in film makers areas. It's really, really popular and but it happens to be public domain. So we're able to show it here and that's gonna be real exciting and Ian also went up to the university film department this month to talk to them about not only showing their films here on his movie night but putting them on their channel. So we've been up and talked to them before but he's a graduate from there and he knows everybody in that department so I think we might get some traction now. Some of the student films are great. Happy to be here. Yeah, I would love to have student films. They put them on KQED. Yeah, we have, yeah, it was like school film shorts. Film school shorts, yeah, it was a fun project they put together. We thought maybe it would only go for a year but it continues today. So good project and we can do the same thing here with our local filmmakers. So that's my report for June. I was off to Eastern June so not a lot happened. Well thank you Becca, that's what I was talking about. Any comments, questions? Can I ask a question for the audience? Certainly. So you mentioned the podcasting. Yeah. I noticed as a member of Santa Cruz works that there's going to be a podcasting class here. Yeah. If you have some information you could let the public know about that. I don't. Okay. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. It's still in the works. Okay. I'm not sure who's teaching it or when it's going to happen. It's a partnership between the two of us and as soon as we know something we'll put it more on the website. Fantastic. Great, well it's good to know that's coming up. Yeah. All right, well thank you very much Becca. We can move on next, oh, well the next item is capital expenditure to authorize Becca to make an equipment purchase from Elemental Technologies in the amount of 25,319 and some odd cents. Would you kindly let us know what that's all about? Yeah, yeah, well it is a big piece of equipment the Elemental is pretty much like the TV station part of our TV station. And those things don't last forever and the technology keeps advancing and so they usually cost about $50,000. Right now they've just done a big advance and they don't want to provide support for the old one. So they're giving us 50% off if we will move up to the new one now. So we could wait two years and pay $50,000 or we could buy it now for 25. So I think it's a good idea and Victor thinks it's a good idea and it's good for everybody. It'll be worth it. It would be hard to run the Elemental without support. We have occasionally needed support for it. Over the lines with what's in the strategic plan about having the latest status and the greatest. Yeah, seems like we want to move up. It does extra things. I don't understand what they're talking about. But Victor assures me it's worth the move up. So you need some training. Probably. Do they provide training with the equipment? They do, they'll walk you through stuff. They're really good. I like the guys from Elemental. They're really helpful. One time we had an issue when we were trying to caption and they figured it out. We thought it was some other piece of equipment and we finally asked them and they worked it out for us. So they, and they don't charge us for support, which is really good. And it's the same vendor. So I'm assuming the interface is at least somewhat similar if they, unless they totally revamped it. So. Yeah, I don't think there'll be a big nightmare changeover but if there is, we'll do it at two in the morning or something. I guess that would mean you would have to be up at two in the morning to let us in that room. I guess there's somebody. Or the on call person, yeah, we'll make it happen. Yeah. Because the equipment is at the. The equipment's in the county. We can't go into that section of the building without an escort. We have law enforcement data there and so people have to sign things, get fingerprinted and have CEGIS training and such. We're happy to do that. Right. I wouldn't be happy to do that for a picture. Maybe when we have our meeting with the county, we can discuss that as an agenda item. Yeah, if there's just a procedure and that's all it is, I'm happy to do it. Yeah. Okay, I'm ready to make a motion. Okay, I'll just, as a video geek, I noticed on that thing that the new Elemental uses HEBC, High Efficiency Video Coding, which is H265. It's been H264 for the longest time and this is the latest, greatest video encoding technology, just supposedly even more and it allows for. You are definitely a geek. I can't describe the actual coding mechanisms and the number of squares that it breaks into but when I retire, I'd like to go through and read all those specifications. I feel like it didn't change. It'd be a 66. H266. Maybe it'll be an audio book. But I will entertain a motion. Okay, and I suggest you second it since you're the most knowledgeable of this. Am I allowed to second a motion? Yes. You can't make it. Oh really, okay. I moved to authorize the executive director to make equipment purchase from Elemental Technologies in the amount of $25,319.25. I'm gonna round that up a little. Or there are some kind of change in shipping costs like that. So I'll just say in amount generally, $25,500. I will second that motion. I'd like to move an amendment. If taxes aren't included. Are there enough profit to be paid taxes? Oh, we do, because we don't resell them. You're gonna make it 30. Yeah, and we always- Well, why don't we say not to exceed 30,000? Yeah, that'll work. Oh, they are, they look- They don't sit in here. There's no taxes, right? I don't see taxes. No, it's not. I thought I saw some 30% that's a little bit. Well, they may think they're not going to tax us because we're a non-profit, but we do pay the tax. So eventually, if no, we'll pay it anyway. I'll accept that as a friendly second. Or a friendly amendment. As the second, I'll accept that as well. All right, so we have a motion from Director Hall, second from Chair Maziarz. Any for the discussion, questions? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That carries unanimously. All right, so we move on to item number eight. We've already discussed a lot, so do you have anything to add to that? I don't have much to add. I just, I mentioned briefly the group of people that has been working on increasing the support for new producers, and we're actually going to have a meeting that looks like the beginning of August that the Volunteer Advisory Committee to discuss their upgraded plan. And I was wondering if it would be okay if we get this plan to the members of the Volunteer Advisory Committee so that they can review and maybe have some input and some ideas and maybe digesting it a little bit. Sure, I mean, it's on our website currently. Actually, I forgot one comment I had for the committee is that it's a wonderful, wonderful plan. All it needs is a nice wrapper. You know, if you saw the county's strategic plan, it had this beautiful cover that was designed by a graphic artist and it had pictures and. Tell me about the pie hats and dancing and all that. He's put so much work into that, a nice cover. But we'll need another volunteer for that. Yeah, exactly. But no. I think he's volunteer. Am I? Oh, okay. But anyway, so that is the plan for the next meeting. And so we're kind of side by side thinking along the same lines, although I think they're going to be so pleased with the strategic plan. Well, since we're going to be turning to them for a lot of these, a lot of the actions to be taken, I think that would probably be very worthwhile too. So that is basically my report. Great, thank you. I know the CG person will hate me for this, but I think if we could jump to item number 10, oral part of the board chair, I don't have much. We've been working on scheduling a meeting with the county and hopefully that will be nailed down later this week. And what else? We scheduled the board retreat. So that's all I have. Oh, I want to say happy birthday to my son. He turned 19 yesterday. So I consider that an accomplishment. Getting him that far. Even his accomplishment. I... I kept him from running into the street a few times along the way. Just leaving and having a birthday. In front of the cars, yeah. And with that, apologies to the CG person. Maybe we can move back to item number nine, which is to view some sample public service announcements. I forget who asked. Maybe it was me. Oh, you asked. Yeah, since we do these all the time, it would be nice to actually see some of these samples. I don't know how much... Anyways, we have a number of samples queued up. So if they're already in the controller, maybe we can... My understanding is there have 10 or 12. I don't think we want to see all of them. The question was, do we see bits and pieces of 10 or 12, or do we watch one or two of them all the way through? How about we play PSA roulette?  Hi, I'm Michael from the Santa Cruz Middle and Gems Society. We're an all-volunteer nonprofit active in Santa Cruz since 1949. I wanted to tell you about our holiday sale on November 17th and 18th at the Live Oak Grange on 17th Avenue in Santa Cruz. Members and friends of the club will be selling their lapidary arts and natural treasures, including gems, jewelry, beads, rocks, minerals, and fossils. The sale at the Grange will be open from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on both Saturday and Sunday, the 17th and 18th. Drop by, do some holiday shopping, and check off your gift list for that special someone. Browse the gift items or take a spin at the treasure wheel. Kids love the treasure wheel. Admission is free and there's plenty of free parking. That's November 17th and 18th, 10 to 5 at the Live Oak Grange on 17th Avenue in Santa Cruz. Hope to see you at the sale. Hello, I'm Barbara Chamberlain from the Cabrillo Host Lions Club. Lions are dedicated to helping the local community. We provide scholarships, speech contests, youth sports. We volunteer vision services, glasses, and surgeries. This year, Lions have tested children in all of the local schools. Through the Lions. Hi, I'm Justin Wright, the volunteer coordinator at Homeless Garden Project. On our organic farm, the Homeless Garden Project provides job training, transitional employment, and support services to people who are experiencing homelessness. In the fall and winter months, our team makes great gift products. Did you know that 2.4 million STEM jobs will go unfilled in the U.S. this year? The friends of the Santa Cruz Public Libraries ask you to close that gap with a gift today. And have you heard the phrase open door, open heart? The Santa Cruz County Animal Shelter is the only open admission shelter in the county, which means fright and runaways are a frequent side effect of noisy 4th of July celebrations. Every year, fireworks cause an alarming uptick in lost pets. It's important for people to know how to help a lost animal. Unfortunately, the internet offers confusing and inaccurate advice, and many good Samaritans turn to the Santa Cruz SPCA, simply on the strength of name recognition. The SPCA... Hi, I'm Rod, and I'm a Rotarian. Statistically, you could be forgiven for thinking that what you just heard was the first step of a 12-step program. That's to say that most people have little or no knowledge of what a Rotarian is or what one does. For those who've never heard of Rotary, a Rotarian could easily be presumed to be a mysterious amorphous being from the planet Rotar.  In other words, a Rotarian is a dinosaur. So there you have it. For most of the general public, a Rotarian is perceived to be either an alien or a dinosaur. Well, I'm happy to report that neither of those descriptions has much to do with Rotary in general and nothing to do with local Rotarians in particular. In a nutshell, Rotarians are a group of really active and passionate community leaders who volunteer to do community service and who raise money to support others. We love to get together and have a great time. And we do so in a way that truly makes a difference in our local communities and the broader global community. Okay, I hear you say that. That all sounds very good. But when you scale- The volunteer filming period, yes. And it looks like that same piece of music has gotten used a number of times. It's very peppy and- But it's spread out over all the hours so nobody will remember. Great, well, thank you, Director Hall. That was a good idea. I've seen them once in a while when I'm kind of surfing through community TV and some of them, my wife came in and watched one and we had a great chuckle on it. Some of them were really good. They're all interesting. And I think it's a good way to end the strategic plan of how we connect with our community. Well, you see it's so enthusiastic. The thing across that board is everyone is really enthusiastic about what they're doing. Yeah, it's a great way for people who are doing things in the community to get the word out and people in the community to learn about things. Maybe we need a PSA awards ceremony. To recognize excellence in PSAs. Great, all right, any further comments on that? Thank you very much, Director Hall, for bringing that to us. Everybody, the volunteers for putting that together. Right, yeah. And has it been monthly, is that right? No, no, I just, oh no, you don't do the PSAs, is it once a month? Once a month. It's the second Friday of every month. Okay.  Okay, so if anybody's watching this, then they want to make their own PSA, go to communitytv.org and look for the PSA item. Great, all right, so we can move on to item number 11, Board Member Staff Request for specific items. Do appear on the next meeting agenda. Do we have any, that's gonna be September, so if you don't meet in August, I don't see any. So we've moved on to number 12, which is announcements. I would like to thank our all volunteer crew today that consists of Linda Janakis, John James, Karen Scott, Phil Harmonic, Nick Kirkendall, and Sherry Ross. Thank you all very much for staying. This is a longer meeting than usual and do you get volunteer credits based on? Yeah. So you get more volunteer credits. So thank you very much. So we can move on to item number 13, which is a German, do we have a motion for adjourn? We have a motion and a second. All second. Oh, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Unanimously. Thank you very much. Have a good evening.