Hello everyone and welcome back to our 9.30am to 10am session of the 2017 Open Simulator Community Conference. As a reminder to our in-world and our web audience, you can view the full conference schedule at conference.opensimulator.org. You can tweet your questions or comments to at OpenSimCC. You can also use the hashtag, hashtag OSCC17. Our next session I'm really excited to introduce is 40 virtual cities online. And our speaker today is Krister Lindstrom. Krister is the CEO of 4Dialog and has since 2008 headed the development of the virtual city concept. In 2017 he initiated the UIDC project which stands for Urban International Design Contest. Today sponsored by several well-known organizations that he's going to talk about and government agencies. So I want to pass the mic over to Krister. Krister, thank you for joining us. Hi Michelle, thank you and I hope everybody hears me okay? Yes. Okay, good. So I'll just go ahead. Okay, hello everyone and thank you for the introduction. So I'm going to talk about, we have currently about 40 virtual cities available online, about 20 of them are available right now. Some are archived and our intention is going for way more, at least 4,000 into year 2022. So why are we doing this? What is our mission? So it's very basic. We want to provide easy to use technology to plan for sustainable urban areas. That is the main objective and mission for what we are doing. And the focus is to develop and market technology for urban planning focused on smart cities and public transportation. And this has had quite interesting consequences. When we did this in the beginning, very few people had any idea what we were talking about. It was quite interesting to see. And eventually, using 3D models for urban planning has of course skyrocketed, but there's still some confusion about what is 4D models. And not until this year, more and more people and customers we're talking to are slowly catching up to what this is all about. And I would like to use this opportunity to applaud the OpenScene community for the work they have done, or you guys have done for many years. So what we do have never been possible to work. So it's been very important for us. Okay, so in order to achieve 4,000 cities or whatever number we're striving for, you need some kind of strategy. And the first leg, we have three legs in our strategy. And the first leg was of course doing city models and using the team we had for several years. We call the 4D team. So from 2018, we are now using these three different parts of our organization. And the 4D team, what they do, they do direct marketing and sales of 4D city models. And the customers are usually cities, it can be an airport, real estate developers, transportation authorities and planners and of course related developers. We have a website on the development, it's not ready yet, but that gives you some kind of understanding where we're going with this 2018. That website will not be launched until 1st of January, but I think it's okay to give you a sneak preview of where we're going. The link is citymodelsonline.myfreecites.net. And of course you're going to get some ads and things there, but just because we're using this site to play around with the coming website. Okay, so that is the basic strategy for do the 4D models and we have quite a few of them. Right now in Europe, I'm not going to list all of these. Most of them are existing, some are archived and some are still under planning, but most of them exist today. So we have models in Belgium, for example at Antwerp, several different models in Sweden. The most extensive are, for example, in Sodutelya, Sundbyberg and Gävle. In the US, we have a couple of models. Some of the most developed ones are around Mountain View, for example, and Aptos in California, we work through that right now. We have a model in Perth, Australia, that was a part of UIDC. We've done Cape Town, South Africa, and we have quite an extensive model of the airport of Stockholm in Sweden. Of course, we just started doing logistics and it's actually not directly the harbor, it's actually the logistics area to the harbor. And we have a couple of campuses and right now we're negotiating with a few industries, that's just one of them. So it's not only about having CD models, it's also about using this technology with immersive software and transportation and movements. And of course, simulations for different kinds of logistics places, such as industries and airports. So that was the first leg. Now, we have started to develop what Meg was just talking about, the university involvement or the UIDC. We had a pilot this year, so we had six universities and city teams doing real studies. The idea was for them to show how a future city would look like. And there was a couple of specific rules. One of the rules, it had to be some kind of innovative transportation systems as autonomous public transportation like pod cars, PRT, APM, or a lot of these buswars flying around these autonomous vehicles. The only thing they could not do was autonomous cars. We think that is something we're trying to avoid. We don't think it's possible to have an autonomous car and a sustainable city. It doesn't compute to us. So we focused on doing most of all public transportation systems. This year we had six participants, three from the US. It was Jacksonville, Washington DC, and Las Vegas. It was one from Australia, Perth. And it's actually a vendor, a developer technology in Australia together with the university. And in Sweden we had two teams, one for the city of Sunderberg. That's a very close city to Stockholm. And the city where I live myself in the north of Stockholm is about 150 miles away. So the idea is to expand this quite a lot next year. So we're looking for 24 teams. And it's been very easy to roll teams so far, actually. We might end up in a situation where we can accommodate all who want to participate, who will see what happens. The idea is to have 24 teams to do different kind of models together with developers and cities, et cetera, and present them at the conference in October 2018. I'll say more about that. If there's two links there, one is the Facebook link for the ULDC contest. And I'm also putting, I'm sorry, it's a bit complicated, but it's a link there also for the winning proposal. I'm going to show you now just how they look like just briefly. The winning proposal is the big one on top. I'm going to hold a little here. It seems to be some kind of technical malfunction going on right now. Do I need to be concerned about that, or can I just continue? Just continue. You're good. OK, thank you. So the top image there, that is the Sundeberg, the winning proposal. The two students spent all together about 250 hours. And they did, I think it's a two-region model. That was very nice, I have to say that. All these models are available in a couple of the links. I think some of them are provided, and some I can provide after this presentation. Lower left is Perth, Australia. And then, no, sorry, Jacksonville. And then we have the second from the left is Washington DC. The third is Perth, Australia. And the fourth is Jävle down there. I did not include Las Vegas because the students kind of misunderstood the task. And it's not worth looking at, actually. OK, so how do we do this? How do we put everything together? Because we're having a lot of teams doing different kind of models all around the world with the 4D team that is doing professional models on behalf of customers or ask for them. And then we have the second team who do everything with students. So what we do, we bring it all together at the conference that has been ongoing since 2008. It's called the Polka City Conference. And we have approximately sometimes around 800 people and sometimes up to 250. So I would say average 150 participants. And it's a transportation professionals specifically specialized in urban transportation systems that is autonomous and of course, solar or renewable energy driven and used together with city planners. Basically minibuses and vehicles in the air or on the ground. So what we do here, we use these teams to present their IDs. And also we use all the cities because there's a lot of cities coming to these conferences. So this tool, this open sim development tool, we use it to educate people. So it's basically an educational and marketing tool for how you can make the city more sustainable using new modes of transportation. But also other things, not only about transportation. It's also about how you can change urban landscape using better housing, better development and basically retake the urban landscape away from the cars. And it's quite an interesting conference. So a couple of examples. We were right now this year in Las Vegas. Let's see here. So we were in Las Vegas. It's called Podcasit and Advanced Transit. And there you see this self-driving little minibus. Unfortunately, the first thing happened after just 30 minutes that launched that after years of preparations, it actually crashed. It didn't crash itself. It was a semi-trailer that actually crashed into it. It was standing still. But that was not too nice. Fortunately, I would say fortunately, the good part of that was it got a lot of publication, a lot of publicity because of it. So how do we do now? How do we expand this? What can we do to get more cities going from 4,000 to 4,000? Is that possible? Well, yes, we think so. Right now, we have about 40 cities. We're using approximately six people on staff and a couple of university teams. Five of them did the modeling. Should be six there, actually six university teams. And next year, we expect using the UIDC and the expansion of the 4D modeling. Approximately, we will have an inventory of about 110 cities. So that's basically 70 more. We need to expand our staff and have more university teams, of course. And when we do our studies and the expansion rate, we expect to have 2,019 approximately 400 cities in our inventory. And with the linear expansion, slightly logarithmic, we're expected to have 14 staff and 40 university projects. So following this analysis, we expect to have approximately actually 4,000 at the end of 2022. It's a lot of work. We're going to need a lot of resources. And we're going to need a lot of support also from the OpenSim community to do this. We are considering either additional ways of doing cities, crowdsourcing, maybe getting involved with the OpenStreetMap community, and many other ways to get this expanded. The number of universities we have contact with right now are about eight. And we expect to expand that quite to quite a much larger number in a couple of years. There are also exchange programs. So what we do is we have students that are doing this a part of the tuition and they're getting points for it. And we today have one exchange program between the University of Southern Illinois and Jabler University in North of Stockholm. And we also hope to have more collaboration projects together with San Jose State University that are running another program adjacent to this program. I have a lot of technology and other issues to explain if people have questions. So I decided to actually just stop it here and say thank you for now, since I expect there are probably going to be quite a lot of questions because when I do this regularly, I don't know. But usually I get a lot of questions based on this. So thank you. And Krista, thank you. And I'll start with the questions because I find this fascinating. So the goal is you're actually going to work with city developers to help them plan their cities. Yes, that's what we do every day. Yep. And part of that you were saying is the public transportation part of it. It is usually not always. We do have projects that does not involve public transportation, but that is usually the most common way for us to get into a project. With UIDC, it's compulsory. For the 4D project, it's not compulsory. It can be anything. We actually have light rail projects. We have biking projects even in Uppsala. So there are other ways to get into a deal to make a 4D model for a city or any kind of development. But the usual way in is that somebody wants us to do something that is related to urban modern transportation using self-driving minipasses or similar. Oh, yeah. I do have a question from Bethany. She wants to know, did you mention working with San Jose State? Yes. And what's that project? The project is called SMSSV or Spartan Superway. If you Google SMSSV or Spartan Superway, you will find the NIST team doing autonomous transportation. Yeah. And then, Edith was asking, can this be used to synchronize train routes? Yes. That is actually what we're doing right now in Jävla. OK. I see here that somebody on the text that UTIM builds a SIM replica for the city. Yes, it is a replica. And Bethany says, I'm with San Jose State University, that she should look for Mr. Buff Ferman. There you go. Or what's her name? Nixon, Hillary Nixon. So what will the next contest be? It will be in Jävla, Sweden, on October. It's going to be, as I said, we expect about 24 different teams. We're not going to have all the teams come to the conference because it will be too much a logistical problem because we're going to be all over the world. So we're going to have contests, preliminary contests, one in US, one in Asia, one in Europe, et cetera. And we're going to have the best teams from each region or continent to come to Sweden. So the total number is 24, but not all 24 then will come to Sweden. We don't expect them to come. So we actually pay for their trip. So we cannot pay for all, it would be too expensive. Now, Cyber Serenity is asking, how do you get the vehicles to work? Do you have special modules? Yes, we have developed special software for that. One is for in-world with OpenSim. But there was a previous presentation here with Maria. And I mentioned that we actually have developed special software to convert a region or several regions into unity because we have better ways of controlling cars. And we can also communicate better with, for example, sensors. So in the city of Jävla, there are five different sensors measuring air quality, the different kind of gases, et cetera. And in real time, you can actually see in the 4D model what is the quality of air in the city right now, regardless where you are. And that is actually a unity application derived from the model we did in OpenSim. Great. And Art Blue is asking, how much of this is actually an OpenSimulator or is it web-based? So I would say all the production is used, is done more or less in OpenSim. We do use Blender for roads and specific stuff. We do import things through SketchUp and different kind of CAD packages. But we find most of the buildings and different objects made externally to be way too heavy when it comes to vectors. And we need something that is light, because we don't want to make the OpenSim model too heavy. And then when the customer wants really high quality, OpenSim is not good enough. So what we do, that's why we export stuff into external software to polish it up and make it more architecture-like and more glossy, if I may use that word. And someone made a comment in OpenSim Business that makes money. And the appeal here is that you're helping cities save a ton of money by giving them their ideas in this virtual space, right? Yeah, and more and more cities are catching on. So we have quite a market right now. We're still not profitable. We're still using investor money to do what we do, but we do expect actually next year to be profitable and the turnover revenue approximately five to 600,000 next year. I bet you the developers love it once they actually understand what it is you can provide them here. Yeah, it's quite an interesting communication. There are people who do not like what we do. And the reason is that they don't want to change. So we actually encountered people who says, no, we don't think this technology interesting and it's just something that looks good and it doesn't really have any real purpose or use. But that's fewer and fewer saying that the more and more people actually adopting our technology and getting interested, not only interested, but actually using it for their own development. A couple of cities has decided to use this technology only for all communication with their citizens. Oh, wow, okay. And one last question because I'm just curious myself too. Your background, were you a developer to start with or how did this idea come about? Well, I'm a politician and musician. That's what I am. So yeah, but I am a programmer too. I did some programming for a couple of years but I'm not programming anymore. Yeah, I do this because of my background in the interest of sustainable cities in the early 2000. So I've been interested in that and I've also been quite active in politics in Sweden for a long time. Okay, great. All right, well, I want to thank Krista for being here. I want to remind the audience, you can see what's coming up in the conference at conference.opensimulator.org. And following this session, the next session will begin at 10 a.m., the first digital biennial. We also encourage you to visit the OSCC 17 poster expo in OSCC expo three region. We're gonna have breaks and lunch and you'll be able to walk around and check out all of our expo regions. So for now, we will take a break and switch out our speakers and thank you very much for listening.


Low scores across the board and NFL DFS in a week number six, which is odd because we went in talking about how this is going to be Really fun slate. We had some value running backs. We could like we got more as we went along So a bit odd to see such low scores across the board But then you also realize that I had guys on Almost two-fifths of my rosters who had a goose egg and Marquez mark was out of the scaling You realize that some other guys want to flopping you kind of understand how we got there and I think there's some pretty actual takeaways for this week But overall mixed bag from week six will break it down what it means and what we can see learn going forward for NFL DFS This is the heat check fantasy podcast powered by number fire That's right here on the fan dual podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim Saunas. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire calm joined here as always by Brandon Gadoula he is the senior managing editor of number fire calm Brandon week six is mostly in the books outside of a thrilling Monday night Barnburner in the Chargers and the Broncos. How you doing today? That's our chasm Yes, I accidentally called them the charcos Well, I called them the Broncos Accidentally and then decided to call the Chargers the charcos and I've decided that that is now in my head Can and what they'll be called to make Monday night more fun Well, yeah, I mean Look this I think this prime time weekend is still better than what we're gonna get next weekend So I don't want to I don't want to downplay it too much But next weekend we get did you forget that we had bears commanders on Thursday? Did you forget? Did you erase that from your brain? Also? We had Cowboys Eagles last night This isn't that bad of a slate for for primetime stuff. I don't think you understood what I said I said like this week's prize. I wasn't down playing. I was down playing Monday night specifically Yeah, but like next week we got some clunkers in primetime So I don't want to I don't want to hit on the the Chargers and Broncos too much because it's still gonna be better than Patriots bears next week. So it is what it is But you're not excited to watch Bailey Zappy sling it after he did dethrones Mack Jones I actually saw like a so we joked about this like when it happened basically and now like I saw a redacted article about it this morning and I was like, okay guys like I Like Bailey Zappy, I think he's fun. Let's not go don't don't make my slack only takes public and treat them as being legitimate, please Well, I mean he's what two and oh he's got like I think he was like the only rookie to start his career two and oh with like a hundred plus passer rating in both games or Something like that. It's in the Super Bowl. I don't know So, you know, some of those fun stats that are like, how did we even land on on this like combination of information, but But I mean, yeah, so we should probably talk about more about week six and less about like why Okay, I suppose we can we'll dive in we'll break down Headliners from this week break down some role changes that were noteworthy to us and take a look ahead Two weeks seven on the main slate on fan duel if the prime times games stink the main slate should be better We don't have the bills in a couple teams that are are on the eagles the Vikings The Rams I don't I don't mind not having the Vikings. I think I'm ecstatic not to have the Rams So like actually no, it's fun to fade them. So I don't know whatever. We'll talk about a week seven and take a look forward Later, but just I just want to be the first to say I'm derailing the show now, but I'm gonna be the first to say that I can't believe it's almost week seven Yes, the first I'm gonna make that a running bet every Monday morning. You're not I heard someone say quarter or three Thirds of the way or one-third of the way through the season this morning. Yeah, but that's not what I said Okay, well whatever And more in just one second at first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to the number fire daily fantasy podcast Why would you not want to be after this blazing start here? Check it out wherever you get your podcasts and it's important to mention this because tomorrow the daily ISO is back with Tom Vecchio I had Tom on covering the spread today. 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So I'll take that for sure No purchase necessary age and location restrictions apply the void where prohibited seafold terms at fandall.com Let's dig into week number six recap What we saw here the headliner for this week is Kenneth Walker the Thurs roll on Sunday's first game in place of Rashad penny Walker finished with a 71% snap rate He had 21 carries and three targets for 110 yards of scrimmage and a touchdown He did lose two-minute work to DJ Dallas, which is very noteworthy because that is a valuable role to have But Dallas no targets Walker ran 13 routes compared to Dallas is 10 So it's kind of exactly the role we thought he would have Maybe with a bit more juice potentially like in terms like the usage to me It kind of feels like take Rashad penny's role that he had went before he got hurt and then jack it up like Five to ten percent and that five to ten percent matters a decent amount So I thought the role was pretty good for Kenneth Walker in this first game filling in for Rashad penny What is it for you with penny from for Walker based on what you saw on week six? Yeah, really really good usage I was a little bit worried in the first half whenever he wasn't out on the two-minute drill Which I expected to be the case correct, but what my fear was is that? It was probably rational just because it's the kind of thing that you're tuned into and you can kind of adjust for but That's gonna ruin or at least downplay your your overall snap rate and then it's gonna look worse And it's gonna have me second guessing things, but you know, he finished with a 52 percent first half snap rate Obviously played a heavy majority in the second half. So you like to see that The fact I think the best news here is that he had more routes than DJ Dallas despite not playing on the two-minute drill Walker also very similar to Rashad penny just in the the sense of Like a low success rate but a high per carry number in terms of like EPA and like rushing yards over expectations So it's gonna be a little bit boomer bust in that regard on like a per carry basis, but the role itself fantastic and You know, I mentioned like the Rashad penny thing we would have left Rashad penny at 65 I think this is Rashad penny plus as you pointed out. So it's really nice It's a really nice role for Walker and I think he almost like braced the worst-case scenario of Maybe not playing a lot of like the passing game passing down work But he got there. So I think it's an overall plus I do too. So next week they get the Chargers That is one of the better games on the main slate It's a pretty high total I think that spread might be a smidge too high despite liking the Chargers at seven points right now Name that salary Kenneth Walker the third next week against the Chargers. Oh the Chargers That's a juicy one for running backs they yeah, they're They're rushing yards over expectation per attempt 1.90 That's like absurd so it's not great Walker in that role Do we have a total on that one? 47 I don't know if we did because the Chargers play so I'm 52. Okay. Wow. I was way off Probably like a 78 is the number that's coming to mind for me I was thinking 75 because like he could get ripped it out. Yeah, he is 73. So that's fine I'll take that. I think that's absolutely. Okay. Is that her right down? Borderline borderline right down. Yeah, I would say we're back in on him at that number It's a good matchup. I think Seattle's competitive in that game. I did Chino play for the Chargers I don't think he did but The most pressing Monday morning. He did he did play it. He played a year for the Chargers. Oh my gosh It's a revenge game Gino revenge game write that down who cares about Kenneth Walker the third They give me a salary then for Gino in a revenge spot 16,000. Okay So I got I don't know what we're talking about the offense at all in this game the passing offense here But you know down usage here. Are we talking about them? No, no, I was like, yeah, I think that's correct that we're not Yeah, I think down usage for Lockett and Metcalfe I don't find that to be super super concerning personally given that way that game went. I think it's just kind of a bad game. What about you? Yeah, I they entered with 28 and 26% you know target share. It's not gonna just evaporate I'm sure it was a script related thing. Yeah, not scripts, but like scheme. Yeah, situational for sure Okay, let's take into the injuries from week number six taking that same game Marquis Brown left with a foot injury Adam Schafter said last night That the X-rays were negative But that Brown was in a walking boot after the game and they have a Thursday game So quick turnaround from Marquis Brown Rondell Moore and Zach Hertz tied for the team lead with ten targets But now Deandre Hopkins comes back and this offense is a mess Cliff said today like oh, it's a tight turnaround for Deandre. I gotta get him work back and my buddy Just run like a slant like that's that's what this offense is. You're not getting anything downfield. It's not that hard So let's assume that Brown misses and Hopkins is back. How do you view this team in that situation? I'm very very thankful that they play Thursday. We talked about this last week how there are situations where you're praying a team Is on an island game. This is one. Yeah Also because I can't lose money on them on the main slate. So that's good. Yeah I mean, well, you know, we can take some, you know swipes on the single-game slate And if you're really feeling if you're really feeling it do the Thursday through Monday something like that But you know, I had a terrible. Well, yeah, that contest is dead to me now I'm thankful for a situation where I can wait and see how much Hopkins Plays I'm assuming it's basically full go. It's not good. He was off for injury. It was for something other than injury So he's probably ready to go and play as much as he can handle The the main fear for this team once they back once once they are back on the main slate is We might have I think Rhonda more will not be very much a factor But he's gonna chip away a little bit and then we're gonna have four names like four pass catchers That could do something. It's gonna draw us back in on Kyler Murray and I've joked about this But it's also like a serious thing the Cardinals are they have to be the team that I've had the the biggest Loss from collectively because I'm always drawn in by the potential But the underperformance is is really heavy and I don't want to just write it off as like it's only a matter of Time before things click like yeah things don't look great. Yeah bad vibes And the vibes calculator is not not clicking with them for sure I did win money on them this week by betting against him with the Seahawks. That was good. We'll take that for sure Randall Cobb, oh thought what even a Benjamin later on to Randall Cobb was carted off with an ankle injury and it didn't look good Sound like it's a high ankle sprain, which would be a multi-week absence But he was he was pretty emotional So I wouldn't be shocked if he wants to be more than that it may have helped ignite a big game for Big shop Bob Tonyan Robert Tonyan He led the team with 12 targets on a 64% snap rate It was just the second game this year above a 50% snap rate To those targets or Tonyan were deep out on the Zard and Romeo Dobbs both had good rolls to both had nine targets Lizard at five deep targets and two for Dobbs. Don't smile. I know I was wronged about Lizard being a low 8 I 16.8 or 8.0. I know I was wrong. It's fine So it's thanks for Cobb to have this injury given that he actually played pretty well last week How would you view the passing game shift if Cobb misses time and obviously they're on a They're not a buy next week. I thought they were to buy Wow, okay They don't tell me don't tell me they play watch. Well, they might as well be on a buy They play Washington next week against Taylor Heineke. Maybe The Green Bay at Washington like mid-October on Fox at 1 1 p.m. Game is like peak NFL To me it's a tradition like no other it's like when one of the dust settles from the excitement of like the start of the season It's like, okay, we get Packers commanders It's gonna be like 17 14 But honestly Aaron Rodgers has not been playing well He's got a league average sacrate taken if you adjust his numbers for Opponents faced. It's not good It's not just drops either like he might want to I'm sure he'd like to think it's drops But it's not that bad in terms of the drop numbers Like honestly between the pass catchers. I guess if the salaries are all low for everyone. Yeah, there's enough Because it's it's somewhat concentrated But like if you just open up the who got a touch or like played a snap or anything for this team it's a long list of skill players and It's not very fun in that regard so I Guess I'd be highest on Tony and just because he fills tight end. Yeah, I don't know. What are you thinking here? So you mentioned the low salaries, I think that's one component but also if we take out some of the targets that makes it better in that regard and it's important remember to you that like This offense has the potential to be good despite the fact that it has not been good so far This year. I think that any offense that has Aaron Rodgers Has that potential we should we can should consider that just because they've been one way does not mean they will continue to be one way going forward so what I would say is I'm probably highest on Dobbs just because he's shown the most potential but I think people are also highest on Dobbs and If he wants to be popular in an offense that is super super underwhelming, that's not great Looking at salaries next week was art is 66. That's really high for an offense like this, right? Yeah, I would prefer so you prefer Dobbs to Lazard straight up. I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't For a Lazard straight up, but that's probably right. Yeah, but it's 66 It's gonna take the right kind of slate. Although. I mean this we got a love for some receivers into the 66 range Yeah, a tonion is 55 so this salary did get juiced up, but I don't think that's like totally out of bounds I think that's like a a fair salary He would not be a cash game play at that salary by any means, but he would be like a consideration for tournaments in the right situations I think is where I knew him there and what stops. Did you see? 58 58. Yeah, I'm more likely to play Dobbs at 58 than Lazard but I like Lazard's role and I Just a bit more. I think that's correct. Okay. It's also the trust level that that matters for a Few quarterbacks, but with Rogers in particular and they've talked a tonion quite a bit this year too. So in like Pre-game interviews with like broadcasting crews and stuff on the other side that game will be the commanders Carson Wentz is a broken ring finger on his throwing hand and may miss like six weeks a pair apparently so that's not great Sounds like Taylor Heinecke would fill in over Sam Howell, which I'm annoyed about because I think Sam Howell is kind of fun He's gonna take a lot of sacks, but he might look chaotic doing it Heinecke was a point. Oh passing that expected points per drop back last year whereas Wentz this year is a negative point Oh for Heinecke has a nude alarm and is boring So this offense already is not fun for DFS I think they would somehow get worse for DFS with Heinecke if that's possible Well, what's your read on this one? Yeah, I Usually sort every team by like or just to sort the the entire week by route rate and see like okay Who ran every route because I think that's telling if you are in literally every route for your team and Terry McClourin did that He had four targets Curtis Sammy ran 92% of the team's routes five targets lead the team to catches. I Don't think this is a situation to go to unless it's a Full-on bring back. Yeah, I guess you could maybe make the case preemptively without knowing what the whole slate looks like Like a Dobbs Samuel or like McClourin mini stack But that even that doesn't sound appealing when I know I want to save salary doing that So I'm out. I think that they want to cover up quarterback based on the way they played that game Thursday They are scared of their quarterback situation and who can blame them So I think that's where they're at. We'll talk about brown Robinson in the rule change section later on Kenny Pickett left in the third quarter due to a concussion for the Steelers Mitch Trubisky came in and played well, honestly, but I Don't care. I Wasn't super into this offense with Pickett, but I was more intrigued with it than I was with Trubisky So going back to Trubisky, we're not gonna go like suddenly shift over you in this offense, correct I mean, he like really peppered Chase Claypool who looked kind of like he had a resurgence somehow Yeah, five of the 12 targets from Trubisky George Pickens is is like Picking it up in terms of the market share Picking it up. I got it. Oh, but again, Deontay Johnson one of those guys who stands out a hundred percent of the routes seven targets 28 yards like That I just I can't invest in this offense. Yeah, I can't either So how low how low does Najee Harris's salary need to be at this point because we've been we've played this game He needs 20 or 220 needs to have the Kike Hernandez salary when he's with the Dodgers at one time We're like there's a bug with the salary and like Kike was like tweeting about it before the game See everyone is talking about him for DFS. I need I need a Kike salary fluke to get there gosh. I All right, I forgot they're on Sunday night. So I don't Very nice JK Dobbins missed the second half because his knee tightened up according to John Harbaugh He said it could have been because of the turf for that game that paid the way for Kenny and Drake 57% snap rate for Drake 10 carries two targets He had a lot of yardage and Drake was somewhat involved in the first half two with four carries and two targets Dobbins seven first half carries. I Think this is just a stay away Continues to be a stay away. It was like I briefly had Dobbins being guide consider But once last week happened I backed off and I'm just further off now not chasing Drake. What about you? Yeah, this is the one of the worst teams to target running backs for and I'm staying away Yep, I'd agree with that Camera break stretch it off with a head injury and Steelers had full movement in his extremities But just really scary because he had a concussion back in week four as well Right when he got hit you could tell it was not good K. Dotten ran 17 routes and 42 drop-backs and earned three targets last week without break Otten played 96% of the snaps. He had seven targets. It was a low eight out of 3.3, but Pretty good roll for a tight end Assuming break does miss time. How would you view Otten in this offense? Well, Kate Otten's a dot and went up the 10.3 this week To downfield targets, which is 10 plus yards for me I think that there's There's enough if the salaries like sub 5,000 like if he's got a four in front of his name They're in front of his I have to see me does like I think that that would be appealing provided that there's not a whole lot of Fearful tight ends on the slate because because we saw it in week five. It's not just trying to project Because sometimes with tight ends it's it's easy to say like okay this tight ends out So this dude at 4,200 or 4,400 or whatever is like let's really Just plug him in and say the role is gonna be the same. That's not the case But we did see him involved in week five. So yeah, I'm intrigued by that a little bit. Yeah, I think so they're facing off 49 sweet. I think that's fine We do have Anders and Kelsey on the slate. Hawkinson is back as well on the slate That offense could struggle against analysis defense, but that's not the point of right now so like there are some legit tight ends on that slate, but You know, uh, I think he'd be a consideration at 49 for sure given that role Yeah For sure. Okay. Schaller Thompson suffered a thumb injury and did not return Teddy Bridgewater revenge game came on in relief. Uh, he Injected some life in the offense three and 29 yards on 34 attempts He peppered Tyree kill 11 targets seven to Jalen waddle my kisiki at six Sounds like though to a tongue of I low will be back in week 70 cleared country protocol They kind of said that he'll be back next week. They play sunday night, but just in general Brandon How high can we be on this dolphin's offense when we know that they will have like A legitimate quarterback in there not to not to say that Thompson was not but like We know that they'll be okay with Bridgewater or tongue of I low being somewhat aggressive And I think to me that is a relief For targeting hill and waddle in the future Yeah, so they're um Their pass rate over expectation was a minus 10.4 last week And a plus 8.5 this week I think it's like a confidence thing. I think that's going to lead to the volume and honestly I almost I almost played Tyree kill almost doesn't get us anything but like I never considered him with Thompson honestly I could I thought that there would be enough uh of a path from volume But now I don't care if it's Bridgewater or toa like Tyree kill is he has that ceiling. I think that helps Jalen waddle I'm not going to touch with my kisiki I'd rather play rather play Kate otten than my kisiki. So I didn't know to get sick you later on but let's just love that in here um, it was in situations to monitor I think okay, so Durham smith was inactive yesterday and It's sad that a Durham smith injury is what allows my kisiki to be somewhat relevant 64 snap rates He ran around a 40 of 53 drop backs and earned seven targets and he grittied. I just think is all that He tried sorry He attempted to gritty again um I think that like if smith is active we just cross off kisiki If smith is inactive again, then kisiki's at least like on the radar, but still not someone I really truly want to use That's fine Thankfully, I don't have to think about it for the main slate. So we'll just figure it out for Sunday night Yeah, smith winds up being inactive. That's the benefit of single-game slates You can focus more on inactive if he's inactive then he bump up kisiki, especially for a single-game slate Uh pj walker got banged up too. So jake of eason came in for the panthers eason was equally awful to walker Uh, they were both hideous Christian mccaffrey though 158 yards in scrimmage 28 adjust opportunities and the reason he got there was because pj walker's longest completion, I believe was one air yard um I don't think I think he had one beyond the line in scrimmage and it was one yard downfield He refused to throw downfield so We got a bump from mccaffrey here But Ew Is this offense so disheveled right now that we can't even trust mccaffrey Yeah, it's like christian mccaffrey has been in bad situations before But has been able to overcome it. This feels like the worst that it's been it's like I feel like maybe before with mccaffrey the offense didn't do him any favors Now it feels like it's actively working against him in a sense Uh, like he he looked good. He had some like sequan barkley s you know Yards over over expectation But it's it's just sort of in spite of his offense And and that's really hard to to dig into but name me a salary for mccaffrey That you would want to play him out I'm trying to think of like a comp of like a running back who gets an amazing workload And he's a very good player, but it's just like the worst offense that's ever existed and I can't think of one So it's hard to like concoct What that would look like I guess like If you took nazi harris and last year stealers offense made him more effective Like that could kind of be a comp Yeah, um Like 85 83 I don't know 85. He's 87 I probably would have said like 83 a little bit lower than that. They play the buccaneers So like he's getting you a lot of points without touchdowns, which I like But the problem is the without touchdowns part is like stickier for him than usual because they're implied total next week is 15 and a half Yeah, so there it's one thing to look at like yardage versus touchdowns It's like that's it's and yardage versus touchdowns is a very very good way to predict touchdowns itself Yeah, but in this case like if you're yeah, if you're implying total is always 14 to 17 there's only two touchdowns to go around if you if you meet that and like I think 87 is too rich unless we just are blessed with a lot of value plays next week And even if we're best blessed with a lot of value plays like I mean We get sake one next week slate. I'd rather just go there Um, we get kelsey we get andrew's like, yeah, he would not be the guy I would turn to his as a stud if I have value to get there. So that's where I met with that one Let's talk about some role changes from this past week. Um We talked about pj. Uh, we're sorry. We talked about um the Uh seahawks earlier on you know, benjamin first game in place of james connor um, what? I'm I'm realizing you were meant canith walker but said p like that's that's like a thing that I would do. Yeah Also, I just want to make a motion we call him kenneth and not ken because ken walker sounds like he's running for congress And he's like filming his like congressional ads like on a tractor in a farm field.  Do they have a third district? I don't know whatever. Um, kenny walker kenny walker baseball player with a 235 iso anyway, uh, you know benjamin featured with no james connor 87 snap rate, which is pretty good. Uh, but 15 carries and three targets resulted in 65 yards So the roll is good, but the offense sucks. How do you view, you know, benjamin with a great role in a frustrating offense? Yeah, i'm trying to think of a comp, uh I I kind of thought like devon singletary in terms of like the The high snap rate high route rate. He had 74 of the routes, but the offense Going a different route to hollow snaps Yeah, like the kind of thing where like it feels like it should be there And I mean if memory serves james connor's role has been like okay when he's been healthy But hasn't been doing anything with it last year.  Yeah, um So maybe like maybe that was just a fluke when that offense was playing better, but Yeah, it's uh, again, they're not on the main slate. So we don't have to worry about it too much but if they were I'd probably If his salary went up from 63 I would be a bit wary because I think he'd just be bucketed in like the The singletary ceh sort of like I get it but He's very imperfect as a player with his role. I think his role is like a 67 kind of situation after you consider the offense I mean it wasn't connor around there. Yeah, exactly Like he's a little bit better version of connor because he doesn't lose as much work to a backup, but like I think 67 it's about appropriate for him Uh, the vikings didn't weren't on offense very much because they kept going three and out They ran just 50 plays but dowman cook 88 snap rates That made week six the first game of the season cook has had an 80 snap rate last week He was a 57 percent the workload itself wasn't that great But again account for the number of plays that they ran It is worth noting alexander madison was on the injury report coming in he had a shoulder injury He did play but He was banged up. So does that game change your view of dowman cook going forward? I think a little bit eventually they got a like Lean on cook more if they think he's like a true difference maker um Again, they're on by so it is what it is, but I guess I mean, I guess they are Geez, I didn't realize they were five and one So maybe they don't have to what I think the wind tunnel was eight and a half at one point Which is great. So they need to keep it up. They're not like a great team Right. I was thinking like oh, they're definitely they're the vikings. They're 500. So So they opened at eight and a half, but it was minus 130.  Um, and Still did it but like I wasn't happy about it. Um I think like it boosts my view of cook because it makes a Feature back as game more likely all like the the distribution of outcomes and that that's important so I would say it bumps them up a bit It does not alleviate the concerns because again Madison was banged up They have a bi week now to get Madison healthy and Dalvin healthy.  So You know, like you said, it's within the range of outcomes now or is it didn't really feel like it before Yeah, I think that's our mat too. Uh, with no Damian Harris from Andre Stevenson was treated as a like legit feature back I think he played the first 42 snaps He was at 100 for a very long time wound up at 85 because they were decently up in that in that game one point 19 out of 23 running back carries He had all five running back targets 53 route rates It's a great roll. Awesome stuff Damian Harris is limited in practice all week So he could return week seven and we're not gonna know before lock Or before these situations because the Patriots are the worst, but how do you view Stevenson moving forward? Yeah arrows arrows definitely up Oh, they're Monday night. That's right So Like let's say they were on the main slate. I think with that roll It's going to be a reality that the Patriots don't have huge implied team totals or You know over unders and then they're not playing in like the most fantasy friendly games We kind of had that you know this week well enough with with Stevenson, but He was 75 I think He'd be around 81 for me. I was thinking 85 if there were no Harris Like I know it's not the best like Situation, but that's a it's amazing roll. So macafer is 87 We said like a three ish for macafery I said 85 I think 85 83. Okay, so like I'd rather take a slightly worse role in a more functional offense Do we treat daily zappy to the Panthers? Is that a thing we could do? What what says like week seven Dfs and fantasy football then like remandria stevenson or christian macafery like straight up Well, we're gonna think about it. So, you know, what's that my remandria is awesome. So i'm not gonna Yeah, I know but like You like usually with the Patriots we're not like we got to be careful with these running backs Stevenson was I don't even know what would be the last time that the Patriots featured or running back to that degree Deon lewis I guess, yeah, but that was a while ago, you know if that counts as being featured I guess um Like because he got hurt pretty fast, but like he had games where he was featured I guess so I don't know it's been a It's been a hot second. Yeah, patricia though making waves all right, uh I guess, sorry, we've been tracking lender for net snap rate and it went back up to um What it had been in a very neutral script this week, which is upsetting that it was neutral against the Steelers But whatever Uh 82 snap rate for for net. Uh, he had 21 carries and six targets. He had six out of 15 red zone chances I think they wanted to cut back in his snap rate, but they're not good enough to do so I think that they're playing in too many close games. So if they are 10 point favorites against carolina next week hypothetically they are Maybe they peddle back on money a bit in that situation But I think in like neutral scripts Do we call him like neutral script lenny? Is that the new moniker? Like because I think in neutral scripts. He's gonna be like a legitimate feature back What was the spread this week against the Steelers? Eight and a half or something. Yeah, like I don't know if you can bank on it A blob against the panthers you might be able to uh, well, I mean we'll see I would say for for net Again, it's it's kind of like similar to dalvin where it's like the arrow is going way down Trending down. Am I doing this right now? I'm doing this Trending down, but like, you know back up like the bounce back up So for for net The thing though is his salary was super high because he cashed in on a limited snap rate in week five I feel like he's gonna be over salaryed for me regardless, but I would probably say like 78 I thought 81 Um, it's in part because I still have some faith in this offense. Like they look bad Um, I can't I can't sugar. They look bad Um, the tender tom narrative is wearing its full head right now So like that matters, but he's 84. So like not a greatest based on mine, but it is a greatest based on yours So probably over salaryed I think he's over salaryed for net or macafery in that game For that by a mile, I think I know that like I said higher salary from macafery, but like Realistically, I'd rather play Lenny. Yeah Okay, uh same team tyquan thorton. Wait, how did we get to Lenny? I'd put these out of order. Anyway, whatever Uh, tyquan thorton had an interesting role on sunday his second week active This came with nelson agler out and with kendrick born leaving I think after like two snaps of the toe injury But thorton had three rush attempts two which were in the red zone Hmm Five targets overall he scored twice. Uh, so the production was there as well What are your thoughts on thorton in an offense that we typically cross off? 72 route rate, uh, five targets we carry second rounder from baler super fast Is definitely appealing would make sense that maybe it's just a bit of a slow developing situation But they don't really have a whole lot to throw to behind slow play guys who are good right so like I think it's interesting and if his salary is Super low. Yeah, he might be Boy, this is one of those like sounds good on monday. It sounds terrible. It's on sunday 230, but They play monday against chicago My hope is that in that game he has good usage but doesn't pop Because he's not going to get a salary bump regardless, but I don't want to get the roster rate Bump, so I hope that his role Is good. I want the best of all worlds I he would have to go nuts to be like super chalky in dfs this this early No, people like use like dust balls all the time like people will use anything anything that moves. They're not discriminant um, I think it's I think that he is like And if we need like a radar meter like how on the radar is this guy? Or how like high is your antenna and like trying to pick up his usage? I'm going to give him like a This is a new segment Three and a half out of five etn's because it's like trebs etn's always on the radar, but never really actually in play Yeah, three and a half out of five etn's So it's etn of five Okay, well no no three and a half out of five the etn is the meter like three and a half kilojoules or whatever I don't like that. Yeah, but like if he's like if he's the namesake for it Like no because he's always on the radar, but never actually in play like etn that is Trebs etn's like a two on the etn. He's like two etn one to ten Five we'll do out of ten tyquan thorton is out of six and a half. That's not And then etn's the baseline of being a five Okay, sure I can't argue because I don't even understand it I'm watching him though speaking of Trebs etn, let's talk about him now 180 yards in scrimmage. That's pretty good But it's still not a full roll shift. I don't think he still played Just 46 of the snaps 10 carries two targets from michael hasty had a huge run They tried to duplicate that did not work. He played 17 of the snaps That might have helped keep etn from a bigger breakout. So I'm at five etn's at a 10 right now Like monitoring him but not using him yet. He's not bank low for dfs yet. What about you? boy, he had 10 carries 86 yards but 28.3 expected rushing yards. So he basically was 60 yards over expectation He had a huge like a 44 yard or something So I thought maybe it was just all on that one rush. He did have a 50 success rate So that's that's like a Rushing yard over expectation success rate or like a success rate success rate like an epa success rate. Okay, cool I mean, yeah, all we can do is monitor it. It's not good enough yet Yeah to to play him in dfs though Keeping a close eye on it and we'll see if he can expand that I think that like again It confirms what we said last week that robinson is dust But like yeah etn is five etn's at a 10. I remember Remember people with victory lap and james robinson on twitter Yeah I haven't I get it. I get like feeling excited but like Yep, uh with cam acres enacted and possibly done with the rams for good They leaned on daryl headerson a bit in week six, uh 70 snap rate 12 out of 20 running back carries three out of five running back targets He also had five out of 13 red zone chances. So like the roll was fine, but the offense is dog do And I don't want a piece of this offense especially because they can't run They lost to left tackle joe no boom something like he might have torn his Achilles So an already bad offensive line got worse So henderson's role in theory is fine But I kind of feel like he's in the eno zone where it's like His offense stinks and I don't want to use it. I think it's a lot of hollow usage So I don't like daryl henderson yet. Where are you on him? Yeah about the same. I mean I did get there. I felt the salary was low enough for what the roll could be the roll was A little less than what I thought it could have been They just like involved a ton of different players With getting like carries They're almost saint see Where they'll like They'll give it to someone that you didn't even know is still with the team or something like that Like brandon pal getting carries So like five targets too So it's one of those. I mean pal had three carries cup had two Benz karanik had one ronnie rivers ronnie rivers had one carry you out well So it's like it's like look guys. They're talking like the receivers room. It's like look guys We're not gonna get you any targets Maybe one but like you're all getting a carry everyone's getting a carry today Like just enjoy it.   Yeah market share wise if it's all the carries So I'm probably out unless it's a great game, but uh, they're on buy Good, right Again, like I guess I'm kind of sad because like people I don't like I hate the rams Alan Robinson and that on that same team this one is actually on the same team I didn't make that up this time. I think I screwed it up. So I'll take the blame Oh, no, I should have to suffer around six out of 31 targets for a rob Second best target share he's had in the game all season But I feel like that's the issue is that it was a 19 percent target share is the second best game I don't Want to go with him either. I think this whole team is dusty as heck except for cup like I don't know. I don't want any rams. I don't know if that's like too hard and fast, but like I just don't want to do it Yeah, and I made a note to like Tyra Higby's route rate Like fell off the planet 56 percent. I'm assuming that's just more Uh pass blocking because what was his snap rate? 78 percent so A lot of the snaps were pass blocking. So It's it's really just cup And maybe Henderson whenever they're back on the main slate if the salary stays low, we'll wait and see They just have no juice. I need an offensive juice like Van Jefferson once he comes off IR might be an aide for this team, which is wild Crazy when the Superbowl or something last year. No, didn't happen Aaron Jones's gap over AJ Dillon shrunk back to what it was earlier on this year Which makes last week seem like a blip Jones 74 percent snap rate in week in week five Week six went back down to 58 percent same roll. He had weeks one through four AJ Dillon actually had more carries and more targets than Jones in a Neutral to negative script, which is weird. So I feel like we just go back to handling this one as usual, correct Which is not playing them pretty much Chris Godwin's role went back to normal week six He had a 90% route rate and team i-12 targets Remember we mentioned last week that he saddled out of the second half because they I don't know they decided they wanted to No other buck in here more than six targets this offense as a whole is pretty bad right now But Godwin at least has a path to double-digit targets, which is never right off of all So where would you be with Godwin moving forward? Yeah, so Godwin was like the perfect example of You know not like like talking about the slate Thursday morning and not being able to talk about it Like as things evolve, but he went limited on Wednesday in practice Didn't practice Thursday and then got in a full practice Friday Tom Brady was wearing a Chris Godwin t-shirt during a press conference I ended up actually getting to Chris Godwin whereas, you know As early as Thursday when he was limited and like not practicing. I wouldn't have been there So I think that tells me enough where I like Godwin If the salary is reasonable, I feel like he's one of the more reactive sort of pricing options where If there's a if there's a hint like a whiff Of upside for the buccaneers receivers. They go up towards like 8,000 Will there ever be whiff of upside for them?  He didn't like he didn't score.  They get panthers next week like I don't know. We're talking like if you look at like a season long like league wide view like running back It's like a big issue and that applies to the fs obviously as well. But like, yeah Receiver itself has been pretty underwhelming. There haven't been like a ton of like It digs has been great cups been doing things Jefferson had a few down games, but like It's not like, oh man, we gotta play Chris Godwin. Mike Evans like they're tearing it up So There's not a whole lot of like can't miss spots at receivers. So I'll probably At this point in the week Take a good long look at Chris Godwin at 7000 next week I'd rather get punched in the throat than consider playing like a Apply like Godwin at 7000 on like most wide receiver slates this year most slates. Yes, but against Carolina In a game with a 41 point total I'm just saying unless receivers a lot different than how it's been I will look into the I don't know. I'll look online see if I can hire someone to punch me in the throat because like I'm sure there's a place you can do that My gamut is still 76 Yeah, that's too high.  I don't want either. So it's not maybe let's go Yeah, k. Dot. I'm sure that works Situations to monitor. What did you note when looking at usages from week six? Uh, so it's not really like a change But alvin chimera's role is good when he's healthy 16 and a half carries per game in his four games 21 target share six and a half per game If you look at just the snap rate, it's never gonna look fantastic. He's around 70 percent. It seems to be kind of capped but That's a good workload, uh for him. And I think that I've historically been too low on chimera in 2022 I'm probably gonna change that even though The saints are probably the most frustrating team when it comes to predicting touchdowns And I don't think that his role being this is entirely a product of like olave and thomas and landry all being out Like he had he's had some targets earlier on this year too. So I don't think it's just that I don't think it's just dalt and anything like that. I think it's actually like a pretty decent goal. Yeah Um, we talked about lenny already Uh, devon single terry snap rate evaporated last week 52 but 88 percent on week six So he now has snap rates of 74 percent 87 percent 52 percent and 88 percent over the past four games If we get a week where running back is terrible on the slate I know jim's gonna be he's shaking his head No, it's not about to me. It's not about where running back is terrible. It's about when they're when they're a competitive game like that's sure also like he almost still got single digits despite Having like a really good first quarter. He had like 12 points. I think like yeah He tried really hard to be to live up to the name devon single digits, but couldn't Um, it definitely feels like tony pollard's more involved, but he's thought because twitter lets you know whenever he's on the field Like when you watched it like these island games, it's like, oh man, he's like here comes the backs I'll take over but just keep in mind 40 snap rate Every week since week two including sunday night. So don't chase it I know it's it feels like maybe like a value with upside But don't don't chase zik either because he's not getting work in the passing game anymore And so like his role is also like next week. They're facing detroit and we're gonna get dak We're gonna have interest in that backfield, but I really don't want either Well, actually how low would zik's are to be to get you to bite against probably like 6 000 Give me like give me like a great rushing workload and like a red zone workload in a game where there could be points 69 No, my gosh, not nice. Not nice at all. Go ahead Uh, jeff wilson, uh, his role is like more of a range of outcomes Hit the low in week six, uh 51 snap rate seven carries one empty target last week 57 snap rate But 17 carries and two targets. So like he can get scripted out I I feel like the optimizers were always like a sort of quote-unquote featured back for the 49ers, but he's not featured right Optimizers still tend to like him a good bit Michael Pittman's Ross that line looked good 16 targets for 134 yards, but the Colt had 58 drop backs 27% arrowed share Keep that in mind. Yeah, I we'll talk about them later on too in the philosophical section, um It will not be an endorsement of him. Just just a precursor. So we're in we're in lockstep there Um, juju smith shuster 98 of the routes this week showed some yardage upside like a tackle Yeah, does that does that change how you view? I think it increases the range of outcomes in a good way Like he's had the targets. He only had five targets on sunday, but like yeah, he's had I don't know Like I think 64 is more appropriate now than I thought it was before I'd say it that way So they play the 49ers on the road 47 and a half point total Really tough defense What salary would you need to see To consider juju for like in what format?  Um, so I had him as like a As like a rotational piece in game stacks I think in order to make him a focal point of game stacks I need a salary to be like 61 and he's not gonna be that no he's 67 So we saw it increase a bit. It'll be the same where I use them in game stacks my view of him improved from a an upside perspective, but You know Yeah, I think that's our man And then last thing, uh, I got to dev and do verney in my main lineup Because I thought that there'd be rushing workload and targets, but Five targets, no rushes. I had a decent amount too. It was a different role But not like substantial enough to go over in more detail Yep Okay, uh for mine, uh as expected myles sanders snap rate took a dip with boston scott beanback He played 60 of the snaps 18 carries and one target in a super positive script I think that if if we're missing one of gainwell or scott then sanders is worth like 73 If one of or if both of them are active then he's closer to like 68 or so is where I view myles sanders Talked about gasiki before uh, rahi moester His role went backward a bit snap rate was 63 percent. He had 18 adjusted opportunities He was on the injured port throughout the week. So Could be a one-week blip, but also It's moestered. So you kind of expect that to happen from a an injury perspective I would just keep in mind that his his role is not as firm as we may think Wanda Robinson scored in his first game back But his role is pretty limited 22 snap rates He had four targets with one in the red zone in 8.8 yard a dot. I think he'll be in play soon He is four out of 10 at n's Right now, but he's not there yet Um, this one is in situations to monitor just because it might not matter again But deon jackson's role at the colts is really really nice. He played a 68 percent of the snaps He had 12 carries and 10 targets, which is awesome He had four out of 11 red zone chances If we get him without taylor and hinds again for some reason we should treat him as being like a breeze hall type I would say Where he's like gonna get a good workload So that's where I'd be out with him The commander's backfield still one to avoid for me Brian Robinson got the bulk of the work with 17 carries on thursday but he still played just 47 of the snaps in a neutral script and They'll probably be more likely to be in negative scripts in general I'm receptive to him and his role expands, but I need that to happen before I wind up buying in there Let's go now to philosophical changes and talk about those colts It could have been with jt and hinds out, but the colts are super pass heavy They had 37 early down first half plays, which is a lot But they had 30 passes on that so very pass heavy matt ryan played well He had a 0.40 passing net expected points per drop back for the game Resulted in 16 targets for michael pittman 11 for paris cambell as mentioned before d on jackson had 10 out pierce had 7 So they were very pass heavy But matt ryan still had on 57 attempts Three passes 16 plus yards downfield None of them to michael pittman. He still does not have a target more than 17 yards downfield I hate this offense still despite there being more pass heavy. What about you? Yeah, and you would think that that changes with The running backs being healthy the the low a dot for For those passes just 6.0 yards downfield on average For for ryan this week. It's basically just rushes by another name. So the pass rate itself is A little bit misleading. It's a more efficient version of the stealers from last year. That's what it is Yeah, I mean there's the efficiency matters, but and like for his pass heavy as they were I'm not saying like a pass rate over expectation of uh, nine percentage points is like nothing, but it wasn't like 20 or 18 or even 15. It was like they just Kind of threw and they should have thrown in a little bit more than that They they were like up tempo too But I think it was just a matter of the the whole entire game environment So i'm not really going to chase this and you know, we're going to look back and say oh michael pittman He's gone off a 16 target game or whatever, but it's it's misleading Indeed it is uh, the one I had is an eagles passing game has been pretty horizontal recently and i'm not really sure why because Okay, so here's the the data here jaylen hurts is a dot the first three games 8.7 Over the past three weeks is 4.7 now. This is on my radar. I got an etn before this week and My explanation to myself was okay first game week four rain game and jordan mylota gets hurt midway through It was second game week five mylota didn't play so I was like, okay You know, I can write this off mylota comes back last night. He plays And even if you look before the lane johnson injury, it was a 4.0 yard a dot and it was 4.4 for the full game So this is not explained by the mylota injury or the johnson injury It's been low for a bit now Hurts had just one targeted deep throw last night and he's been under 240 passing yards in three straight games so We love this offense. We love jaylen hurts. We like these guys. We like that. They we know where the ball is going But the yarded shoes and there was the past catchers might be a bit overstated right now How does impact your view of this offense in the past catchers at the moment? So they're on by for next week. So maybe they have time to sort it out Yeah, but one thing I will mention is that once I saw this note I dug back in and you know part of this is I don't know if like tautological is the right word but like self like it's like it's almost like a circular reference in this sense but the The defenses he's faced and so far this season in terms of a dot avowed Have been 21 27 32 to start So all outside the top 20. That's when we saw the high a dot past three games when his a dot's been low 11 5th and 9th So like it could be just the defenses they faced again Have it, you know facing passes and allowing downfield targets is going to inflate your a dot But through through six weeks for virtually every team You know, we're we're seeing that stabilize a bit. So could just be matchup related Don't want to overreact too much to it But I think it's important that we're monitoring it and if that continues because like we saw that with the chiefs last year We saw that with the cardinals Still So like it does dampen impact because as I talked about before we talk about all the time Downfield targets matter air yards matter So it's it's a great great call out by you Well, and also like the the total passing yardage matters because like Even if a j brown has a 30 percent target share if he gets, you know 36 percent of the receiving yards if that's 155 Who cares? Yeah, so That's the issue. It's not like a situation where I'm like, oh, I don't want to go at the Eagles anymore It's like it does it just dampens my enthusiasm a bit Uh with them US notes on pass rate over expectation and other stuff and pace. Uh, what did you know when looking through that data? Yeah, just a few things. I saw uh panthers again, super run heavy pass rate over expectation of minus 15.8 points with pg walker By far the lowest of the week they were on average entering so like I think we do have to adjust here obviously christian mccaffrey's the only one with this impacts but It sounds like it'd be great for an offense to be run heavy for a running back but If unless you're a really efficient you're Having more rushes which are generally less efficient and passes. So like that hurts the offense So I think that that's a big part of why I'm lower on christian mccaffrey the bangles were trailing But they had the highest pass rate over expectation of the week on 19.7 points I would love if they just started to air it out um But again, it was this doesn't account for game context. That's why it's a good stat, but you know Give me some joe burrow. Give me some jamar chase And and put them back on the menu the 49ers. Uh, they're big three pass catchers So dbo, samuel, george, kittle, brainer and iuk had good volume and good results at least in terms of yardage iuk had two touchdowns That might not stick They really were up in pace in a game where they were trailing that led to higher play volume than normal Again, we're gonna look back and say oh these guys got targets, but That's not how they want to play unless this is indicative of a trend, but it probably wasn't so just be Just be mindful of that. Uh We we're gonna get george kittle versus travis kelsie next week and There's one of those guys we should consider and one of those guys we probably shouldn't And then the rams were they're usually like fast Um, but they were the slowest team in the league this week They did win by 14, but they trail by three entering the half So it wasn't just a block from the stars. How did they trail by three in the first? What it was ten seven at the half because they threw a pick six rip for the half shocker So he hasn't retracted It slipped out Sorry, um, yeah, don't mind me so It's something to watch for if they Play differently like that's gonna hurt cooper cop eventually too if they're something though Eventually might have already happened. Yeah, like he's he hasn't had the same floor Sorry for that word again, but like he hasn't had that same median expectation this year I don't think because he's had in the in your well I think I think we can say floor whenever it comes to actual production Just not like project because you don't project cooper cup for he's gonna get 10 points no matter what happens like that But like his statistical floor of like what he's actually put out there. Yeah, I mean, yeah Okay, let's take a look forward to week number seven with our salary score We pull up the uh next week's main slate over on fandal.com and go position by position shout out guys Who are noteworthy to us brandon at quarterback?  Are you excited for something here or what? We get DACA 75 against the lions This could be a result of the russia wilson game last year But i'm a little bit concerned about guys coming off a thumb injury in their first Did you see the twitter film though? No, he was like throwing darts Hit the camera and stuff Okay, get excited jim. I heard about a firm handshake. He gave someone last week Does that count? He cannot count. He said how is that grip to the broad of what who had that game? I don't know someone's talking about dachshands a lot. Um That could that doesn't really narrow it down. Yeah, um Because I could also see them being a bit conservative in his first game back I think they've been conservative by not playing him the past two weeks. That's probably true So maybe it's situation where he didn't rush back like russ did There was a situation where they thought it was realistic He could play against the rams two weeks ago And he didn't play there didn't play last night He's been practicing So maybe it's a better situation than what russ had and that's the result should be higher on him in 35 but like The range of outcomes really wide And that's concerning to me It is um at the top though like so this is also why it jumped out is because press god is Visible at 75 when you first look at the player pool. Correct Because we have lamar jackson at 88 and patrick mohams 85 Then joe burrow at 83 coming off a huge game, but again not a rushing quarterback Justin herbert against the seahawks will be interesting depending on how things go Eventually keenan allen will return. I think he'll be interesting no matter what Like I kind of hope they underwhelm tonight So we can get herbert at reduced roster rates against a seattle defense that prior to this week prior to facing cliff kingsbury was really bad So point being like we have lamar mohams herbert and then probably dak is going to be fourth Given that salary for me you might be a little more hesitant, but Jared goff at 73. No, absolutely not against the cowboys defense.  No, of course not I think oh goodness What? I don't know where you are, but i'm at 71 and 7 000. Oh Marcus mario'd having the same salary as erin rogers Yeah, I'm looking a little bit lower at all revenge game. Oh gino smith is 68 I potentially foolishly talked myself into gino at times this week. I did get to a fifth quarterback like moron 68 in a revenge game He had 12.68 fanable points with no touchdowns of any kind this week six rushes for 48 yards playing in in indoors And the chargers will be on a short short week Revenge game don't forget that I know I said in 16 times I think he's wearing a charger is jersey in his head shot on fandal actually I don't think there's any way to know I'm just saying I think it's interesting Just saying put it out there and I mean My home is against the 49ers It's a tough matchup, but they're banged up defensively which helps Yeah I think lemar is just the he's the best play and then probably looking at herbert second for me right now But I think the overall takeaway from me is i'm probably gonna want to be up in the 8 000 range again Just as always at this point. Yeah Okay, uh before we go to running back I'm gonna tell you that when I open the running back tab.  Can you just search without opening up the tab too? That's true. I'll do that. I'm smarter. Um, can you guess which running back i'm searching for? Joe mixon? No Deander swift no Although that's probably going to but no Um, who would you be searching for jonathan taylor? No, dr. Jacobs. Yes, dr. Jacobs. Oh my gosh 86. Wow, it's way higher than that That's appropriate I didn't expect to be that high but also I kind of don't hate it Yeah, it's the texans. They'll be favorite by what 14 what? Texans are winning that game, but uh, you're by seven. I was a joe, but But like with this new role that he's had I think that that 86 is appropriate and like Maybe he built the same shell shock that I had when they opened the tab and saw 86 like oh man I can't do that, but I kind of think I want to I mean, I'm not gonna like write him off yet He's got to be what then he's between at least for short between for net I think he was 83 and mccaffrey 87. I'd probably go jacob's over both. I go jacob's there Dang, okay. Let's start a salary score. Why is eckler 95? I know. Oh my gosh I know it's a great match up, but I'm sick of this. I guess protecting coming off 230 point games and uh Protecting against like the huge eruption on my under island game on day night I think it is salary is so high because I like Austin eckler And I don't want to like root against him scoring But like they make me do it because I can't use him at a salary ever That's like how I hear about nick chubb. Like I understand nick chubb is the best rusher in football Like it's not close based on expectation based on just the eye test. Like he's awesome Yeah, but he's 89 next week against the ravens. Like I have a hard time with that Yeah And like he I mean, well, I probably won't use him because I don't need to because like there are other so many other guys right but like The past three weeks 19 carries 17 12 12 is obviously a decrease but 118 yards in the touchdown 134 and 2 56 and none I don't think he's worth discussing because he's not in comparison to other guys Like the reason we talked about chubb on the podcast is okay. Sorry. Go ahead. My bad. I made you mad No, it's like The his range of outcomes is still I the same Yeah, the matchup's not as good, but like I hate playing a guy because like I feel I fear He might hit his high end of outcomes Where are you at and Derek Henry at 92 because I think that's appropriate as well Getting more involved in the passing game six five and two targets past couple of weeks He's been effective in the passing game because they're using him in fun ways I don't think 92 is at rates either. So I think the upper range at running back is Yeah, worthy, right? Yeah, so he's averaging 106 scrimmage yards per game 65% snap rate like he's one of the guys where And it probably sounds like hypocritical um I kind of fear Henry more than I fear chubb because chubb has more competition Yeah, um I think 92 is interesting coming off of a buy I would feel like guys coming off of a buy are not as heavily rostered as they should be Yeah, it is kind of wild though that We have all these names here at the top and typically we'd be like, okay How are we getting to these running backs? But I'm still like, okay, but let me see what's down lower in the salary range So damien pierce is 77. I don't think that's a bad number because again, I think I kind of think houston can keep this game somewhat competitive because the vegas defense is so bad vegas ranks 19 in adjusted early down EPA allowed per rush to opposing teams. So I thought they were a pretty good rush defense last year They've not been quite as good this year Pierce could be in play Breast Hall 76 joe mixon 74. That's a good salary for him based on the role he's had recently 10 Kenneth walker against walker on his tractor 73. Don't don't even bother stopping the run chargers 73 I think he's the last guy before a falloff Like he is the lowest salary guy in a tier of very good options and typically that's a good spot to be in yeah It goes down to zeke at 69 there erin jones 68 Yeah, that's tough the falloff after walker is big Unless we get some sort of injury to shake things up I can't see anybody below walker. I really want to use so As of monday morning, we're gonna say absolutely not but one name at least to kind of throw out as like a slight monitor maybe like a Like a four on the etn scale is what we get with the broncos running backs tonight Because like melvin gordon Isn't fully healthy, but if he has a really good workload He's 63. They play the jets like we're not gonna like that game, but Yeah, he has probably he has a workload that's slightly better than what he had last week 63 will be pretty good Because we're probably gonna have some Nice receivers too. Yeah So we'll have to keep a close eye on him that's It's pretty grim below walker though. It's out of melvin Yeah Oh, so I pulled up receiver Without telling you by the way, um They're only two guys above 8 000 So that makes it easier to be Gushing over the high sourd running backs that that that helps I think And those guys are davante adams 86 against the texans and jamar chase 85 against the falcons I think the biggest thing this week related to the jamar chase thing is watching tea higgins on the injury report because he had 10 targets this past week But wasn't healthy yet. I don't think if we get him in a full practice by friday tea higgins 71 Could be a really really fun mid-range wide receiver. I'd prefer by decades over god when it's 7 000 Yeah In terms of the yeah Okay, what I'll lock in a mech calf or down to 69 and 68 or 68 69 respectively Okay, is it messed up that they burned me Badly this past week, but i'm still very excited to use them at those respective salaries like very excited No, because I think I just trust this might be a heat check classic week Where we try to get in two running backs or maybe three at like 7 000 plus and just like It's kind of shaping up that way. Yeah You can't do that and be rostering guys in the 7 000 range receiver like numerous per like you maybe get to one But that's 6 000 range is going to be key. Yeah Because trust me, I've built a lot of lineups with the stud quarterback and three Three stud running backs and I know what it leaves me with the receiver and the 6 000 range is going to be very very important Um, sorry. I'm just building one really quick here. Um Do I have to pick a defense to you? Let's go bingles again because I'm used to in that Gosh, I know well, no, let's go chiefs because we can't you can't generate any sacks If the other team doesn't throw the ball running that like george attack offense I'll go with the chiefs same issue, but jimmy grapolo find a way to get me there. Okay, if I go Gino Sorry choked So Plus ken walker brice hall joe mixon in the chiefs defense of at 68. I'm gonna be in this this uh, the 6 000 Receiver a lot. That's like gino. That's like the bare minimum. Yeah. Yeah, exactly And that's ignoring all the 8 000 and 9 000 running backs. So I need to be in this 6 000 range receiver a lot. So teagan 71. He's like a borderline. He's a He is nine out of 10 etns from my radar for the practice injury report this week. Yeah He would be uh, he's gonna be a write down. Yep Uh, again, that I'll see a dc a receiver I think if we're looking at the dax situation looking at a way to take advantage michael gallup at 61 Seven targets this past week. Um, he will not get the he will not get a kudad Um, so I'd assume that he'll be on cd land this week It's something that detrisal plays their same style of defense gallup 61 Intriguing is what I would say I could almost guarantee you that michael gallup will be in my receiver loves this week And it will be like a higgins slash metcalf slash locket for a number one Possibly gallup number two and then summon in the 5 000 range because I can't build around the running backs and Not love those receivers. Although I guess wrong at receiver this week. That was the big issue Yeah, I've done that every week of my life. So I've been there Romeo dobs is I think more in play now knowing the composition of running back Um, 5800 dollars facing off against washington Nine targets this past week He now has eight or more and three of his past four games hasn't shown a lot of yardage upside just concerning um, but I think that like it's it's Within his range of outcomes to have a a good yardage game. So I would I would note him personally Yeah, maybe we get news that like wandale robins and we'll have an extended role. He's 55 Really bailed me out with a touchdown Oh, did you look above him? Mvs.  Actually, let me check I meant to check their their routes yesterday and I didn't get around to it because I was going to look at Because it seemed like sky more played more the chiefs. Yeah Oh, yeah, mvs was out there 82% route rate. That's a little bit lower than what he has been though, isn't it? or my um So the chiefs receivers 81% this week 87 75 86 86 Sky more only ran 12 routes. So he's still not it really is just juju You know the final pick went his way. So I hope they don't hold it against them For sky more. Yeah, I don't know if that was this fall. I think this could be I don't think it was either but Yeah, I never know Uh, it's mvs 56. I know My gosh dj more 55 not interested. No, no, but like that That's where we're at right now Yeah, I think it'll probably go ahead. We're really gonna have to dig down here though. I think Could get an Elijah Morse squeaky wheel narrative at 51 He was tweeting about his lack of targets on sunday But he has not had more than 53 yards yet this year and they're They're a good enough teamer. They don't really have to throw as much as they did one Yeah, one thing we did not mention was that robby anderson like got himself ejected from his own sideline this week for the panthers So like so he wasn't actually ejected right like no like definition of the term He just got the sideline was just like get like go to the locker room out so like I'm not saying that dj but like if he's not playing I don't I don't care honestly If it's not unless it's like baker. I know that like baker had one issues But like if it's pj walker, they're not gonna throw so who cares or jacob eason like they're not gonna throw so who cares Like you can have a 30 target share and get you three targets Like I don't want that. Yeah, so no I'm just scrounging through here. See if anything pops out, but I don't think braxon barrios with his like 16 rushing touchdowns this year Yeah, I think I think really it's like So you mentioned wandale. I think that's a good call out as being someone who could potentially potentially be in play at jacksonville Kind of a weirdly fun game Mark was all that scantling again. Like if we have to This honestly though is like I think doves at 58 does wind up being almost like a borderline right down And gal at 61 This is shaping up a lot like last week only the running backs We want to play our highest salaried and their receivers are all still bad like in the higher range Yeah Oh boy, which is scary. I think that makes the Urgency to get to lock in mech half higher because then we know they have really good ceilings And we don't know that for most of the lower salaried receivers. Yeah, we need to get back up somehow So maybe a little bit more of a modified build and that means You know, we can love derek henry It means we're gonna have a lot of kind of the walker a lot of for me a lot of breeze hall again It's gonna be in that 7,000 running back 6,000 range at receiver What looking to mix and to see what the efficiencies looked like the past couple of weeks I think there were some encouraging signs overall. He had an interesting like end zone target It was like a wheel. It wasn't like a wheel route. It was like a yeah wheel fade thing. I'm not a film guy, but it was interesting Um, they're early down rushing efficiency after including last week adjust for opponent is now 30th So it's getting better It's trending up So I think mixon will be a guy we'll probably talk about thursday, but I guess Yeah, I would think height ends. We have mark andrews 85 travis kelsey 83 Play him if you can but I don't know if I Realistically if you if you can caveat is unfortunately prominent there uh, david and joku's 57 again. He keeps Getting receiving yardage and that's not a bad game. I think that using a joku as like a bring back in lemar stacks Probably something I'll be doing quite a bit this week. What's a marie salary? I don't 72 I can use a tight end tide to percent. I can't use Valuable real speed. It was like a did I overlook a marie at like 67 kind of a. Oh, yeah, if you were 57 sure, you know um Big shot bob tunney is 55 as I mentioned before Viable but not desirable. I think is what I would how I'd phrase that maybe this is a k. Dot and weak because we want to get to the The high salaried running backs. Maybe we use him as the route to getting there It it might be and it's not that Usually we frame it as like you're betting against andrews and kelsey at a certain point They can't I mean they can burn you At 85 and 83 but like they need 30 again like per dollar like if they gave you 17 That's pretty restrictive So like at a certain point they're almost salaried out of like FOMO territory One guy who gets like two and a half ETNs out of 10 Is gelani woods, but I will monitor him. So you don't have to Because he ran still just 21 or else this week. So don't bother yet, but I'll keep an eye on him So you don't have to so don't go there yet. I think it is k. Dot and 49 who is kind of the one guy We'll probably need in order to jam and we'll walk this week And I'm actually okay with doing so personally. I think I would rather go that route at tight end than receiver Yes I just haven't really felt like I could do that very often at tight end because there hasn't been anyone down there Who had a realistic path to a bankable role? Yeah, we've seen it from otten So Uh payton hendershot ran 23 routes on 30 some vinnish strap backs to the cowboys at 38 Um, so if dalton schultz were to sit again at 44, maybe you go that way Uh, but I don't think schultz will sit again. I think he'll play See that was a 61% route rate.  I mean a little bit. Okay. Well, he's not there yet. I'm also on it. He's he's three nap etn most because I've Dynasty exposure in in format. Okay, jim jim jim. You have a problem jim. I know You are not ready to think for the record not recommend me. I'm saying I'm monitoring so you don't have to That's what i'm saying I'm monitoring chris call me see if he gets back on the field for chiefs too He's zero negative 0.3 etn out of 10 I'm there you is he on the practice squad or the active roster I think he's so practice squad. Yeah, he's probably like a locker room guy though. Noah gray's on the active roster It I mean who would know it by his yard is 43 snap rate Where chris connelly snaps? boom Notes to future me for week number seven I think that my takeaway is i'm gonna have to dig a lot into those 7,000 range running backs to decide how I ranked them and can I fade the high 8,000 and 9,000 guys to get there and Dig into $5,600 or $5,700 in lower tight ends to see if I can go that route in order to keep myself out of the Dungeon at receiver. What what are you looking into throughout this week? Um, so you kind of mentioned running back and tight end. I think what actually jumped out to me most was uh Can I avoid like how much can I get? How many how many quarterbacks can I play? Like am I doing myself a disservice by not rostering like 80% lamar? um And then at receiver just seeing who I can trust Like really digging in because that's where I missed hard uh this week Not that a lot of receivers predictably put up big games anyway, but Maybe I got to look a little bit deeper at things there. Yeah, I'm gonna look into Gino as well See if I can justify going down there because we even had a 6,000 range quarterback who's legitimately legitimately in play It's possible Gino's not good teddy But then he got hurt. Oh, yeah, please don't remind me about that Too late Very rude. You just lost the game What did you just lost the game? Yeah Oh, well, we had a good run Okay, that is all that we have here for this week on our week six recap podcast week seven preview podcast Hopefully talking about Gino. Hopefully I can talk myself into him Uh coming up on thursday that'll be live on the fandal youtube page at 10 a.m We'll be up on the number fire daily fantasy podcast feed after that as well again Tom vecchio is back with a daily iso tomorrow for the opening night of nba So get that by subscribing to the number fire daily fantasy podcast feed wherever you get your podcast branded If people have questions for you on twitter, where can they find you there? Matt good old 13 g d u l a 13 and i am on twitter at jim saunas j i n s a n n e s You can also follow the fan dual podcast network at fan dual podcast Hopefully week number six and well for you good luck to you with your monday night slates We'll talk to you once again thursday to get set for week number seven This has been the heat shack fantasy podcast powered by number fire