Hey, hey, you on your way you on your way to where it's a wire One point two Billion they are on planet Mars.  I didn't even know that I'm kind of dumbstruck wait Are you on the giddiest trail? Yeah, you're in Greece. Yeah, I'm on a pilgrimage How wonderful you're in Greece.  What What What what oh? My god I don't know what the force is, but if you're out there help me wait don't flush it yet.  Huh? That I don't think was me. It wasn't me there enough um my uh Like I said, we have e-fap in an hour at most work. We're doing We're doing e-fap today. Yeah Fuck. Oh, uh, I can't stop here. I have to keep going That's cool.  I don't know is there a way to I don't know man I Guess he's killing all sentient life and easy solution. No Well, let's see The story and the legend of the cosmic chicken is always moving so like I'm I'm always here for you Mueller whenever you need me through thicker thin day or night winter summer spring fall autumn everything in between and Seasons that aren't on that list but exist. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. I will go to the place excellent, um, I Support all right. Well. Yeah, I mean all right. See you later to the loo. Yeah, man All right, there's gonna be a way that I can use my jetpack of love to get down Like I don't I mean it's the force. I don't know. I can pro I can probably just I could probably fly Hey There we go. They has a way of stuff happening. Let's have to get perfect timing. All right.    Wow, okay It is pretty It's pretty bad not gonna lie. It is pretty pretty awful But let's stop for one second here and think about it. I've got provisions I've got a little little cheese stringy cheese thing I'll keep that in my pocket for later. Also What if maybe Um Sonny I'm the sheriff Hello, I'm rags people call me But on yeah, I know all about the greatness. That is the dawn Kind of like a smile You Hello Intense oh, I'm I am I just don't even if you would like to Yes, I will have dinner with you. Oh, yes, absolutely. Let's make it happen. Now.   Hello, everybody Welcome Hey, Dolan, sorry, you guys didn't even hear me for a second there because I was a little Right I might not have heard the flippin part. What a wonderful intro am I right? I was really amazing I was not expecting that that was Incredible Like you're like, oh, it's just this thing where we can watch movies and videos and stuff and it's like wait my heart That was that was excellent. Oh, yeah, we're to talk about farts for 24 hours That was actually really really impressive and incredible that yeah We are a hearts go out to all the people who work on all kinds Well, you know what the umbrella team support in the show. Thank you so much every everyone We're gonna check those videos out again in the form of watching them as part of the podcast so don't worry about that but a phenomenal work and each part has an intro by the way, so we got three Oh, really? Wow, and they're a they're slightly different You see cuz I just kind of been collecting these where we came close to four and fifties I was like, you know what they they could be the intros. They'll be a real fun Um So nice to see all you into the us and chats.  It's been a while Three years rags since we turned on that stream. Oh, I thought you were gonna say since our last e-fap I was like It is kind of it's strange to think about the fact that we are on a three year anniversary where it was That long ago people meeting up pretty much totally Coincidentally and through happenstance because of a bad Star Wars movie and so we all Coagulated the result. Okay, so this is this is what happens when you just add water and just let it let it bloom Let it grow uncontrolled chaos. It's become so beautiful It is so funny that the first video we covered was Jared doing his thing That's just where it all starts if someone's like, oh, so you've have things kind of cool. They go back something. What is this? Why did they start this way?  Everything has a beginning everything changes. It's a cycle. It's uh, it's it's all bobs and wheels and Ups and downs. Who knows a year from now or two years from now What we'll be doing who know maybe we'll just give up Maybe movies will be so terrible a couple years down the road that we're just gonna say nah We're just gonna review ceiling tiles I'm tempted there is quite a breath But just think about all the wow you spent eight hours talking about ceiling tiles. It's like, yeah, of course To talk about ceiling tiles for that. I was like, you know what you don't understand. That's just that's you Yes, we did it again 100 years of e-fap, can you believe it? Oh my goodness You skip forward a little bit Candles to that's what's that that's a candle for every e-fap. I bet. Oh, yeah Um, I hope that thing is addable. We're gonna have to all jump into it You know what the the floor of this reminds me of the rug at a skating rink Reminds me of the night. Is it the 90s that they did that? Yeah, very 90s. Yeah, oh Yeah, yeah, like the the cups and the yeah, though all those skating rink floors are from the 90s They just hang it in there. They were built to be roller skated upon so they're very sturdy Oh, I'm just thinking of like carpet and stuff as well. Just like the cop that I Like that just that few was very I remember that floor from somewhere and I can't remember exactly where Even if it's from a dream that I invented I remember it from somewhere Vague dream about 90s skate arenas 90s aesthetics. Yeah styrofoam cups the What else is 90s that the you guys remember how you guys remember the computer smell I don't know if you yes We're around of the smell of a computer when it was running and it got kind of hot You could sell it the smell of blueprints my parents were architects and they used to have physical blueprints Print out that's the name and they were blue and they just the ink. It's oh man smells. You'll never smell again Well, I mean sounds you'll never hear again as well I guess like just broadband not broadband dial up the dial up sound. Yeah, I remember the dial up sound reaching in your Welcome to every frame of nostalgia. There's a memory Also, hello both Oh, so it's actually a missile do one at a time. Do you go you go by clipped coin right now or you go by blame Okay, so the the handle that I go by is just blame but the channel is clip coin They don't know whichever. What's the name of why where what's the etymology of clipped coin? Okay, so a Clip coin was All right. I'll try to make this as fast as humanly possible a clip a clip coin was basically a Way to kind of steal a little bit of wealth from something bigger So what they used to do is When you had gold coins silver coins and stuff They would kind of clip around the edges and then they would melt all the clippings down and create new coins And it was a way for thieves and stuff. So if you if you look at modern coins that have little ridges on the side that was Done, you know hundreds and hundreds of years actually I think even you know longer than that But they put the ridges on the edge of the coin so that you could tell if someone had been shaving it or clipping it And we still use it today just because it's you know, it's just something that's kind of carried over But the idea that I thought of for using clip coin was since I'm not showing the whole movie or the TV show that I'm reviewing It's just like a piece of it. That was kind of so you're stealing wealth Wow, people's work is what you're saying. It's it's it's more like it's more like kind of Utilating the little product they suppose something to that effect Well, all right. Well, I got an answer mid at live on television. I just thought rags sounded funny. So Yeah, well, I also I also thought that just the idea of Clipped coin just sound really cool. I think it was a fantasy story that I Maybe it was one of the Game of Thrones or something like that And I heard someone say that it was worth Less than a clipped coin or or something like that. I'm like, oh, that's a cool phrase Well, Mark, we've had it. We had a mini clipped coin saga We would do this past couple weeks. So yeah, that's that's kind of been working Mark cyborg. How you doing? Welcome. Hello there. I'm quite good. Yeah, it's great to be back on eFap It's been 50 whole episodes, but I've listened to several cents And also I apologize if you guys were at all offended by the image of one of my dogs humping the other dog and the implication that Rags is plushie would be humped the second it gets to our house Well, you know, you've got to take one for the team. I guess, you know, so It'll work out.  Moriarty welcome back Oh my god, I'm so excited that I came in here the chat went crazy. I love them all. Hello chat So to see everybody you know already Reaching cast levels of insanity enough to figure out what it is. We can even respect what what here has been looked at by everyone You know what subject what topic who knows at least we can just talk about things And maybe you can laugh And maybe I can laugh. Yes I laugh just now. How's the how's your show been going? How's that? You know, I'm having a good time. I'm really enjoying it a lot.  Yeah, okay, so like imagine you guys Right only that's easy video games instead of movies Wow Hey, we do video games too. Yeah, we do it sometimes rarely once in a blue moon Semi-exclusively video game stuff um Mostly like the kind of stuff where it's like hey Video games are really bad.  I'm enjoying it a lot. Oh great.  Hello. How about you? Hey, don't welcome back Very tall man Get you um, I think I think people are like thirsty and desperate for some batwoman If only there was some way to get it to them in some way shape or form. Who knows what'll happen with that Anyway, I know nice to see it. How's the ice pack? That's pretty good. It's not flat. It's new. Hmm. I thought it was a hot water bottle No, no, it was if it was it would be red When you've got a new ice pack doing that's not I don't think the logic follows on that really really You think blue blue means hot? No, I don't think blue means a temperature. I think it's just a color you could color a hot water bottle Or really a water bottle any kind of because because sometimes you'd have the the comics and things where they have the thermometer Out of their uh mouth, you know, remember those speaking of 90s.  They got like a dessert and stuff Oh, yeah, the harder that does the hard shooting a duck at all No I feel like a foot is very far from a gun like if we think about things that aren't guns foot is like on the opposite side of the spectrum I have her feet aren't guns the guns On her feet Yeah, but you said feet not the guns on feet I feel like it's an important distinction Where's the duck?  No, you have to I know what ducks look like Right, I thought so it's the uh, it's the it's the your profile like when you're crouching down on one On one. Yeah, when you're crouching down on on one foot and you have the other one sticking out You you kind of resemble like a duck.  I got that pretty sure Yeah, if a light's cast on you your leg would become the bill of the duck Oh in your shadow So we were looking at what a time when you google shoot the duck it does show roller skating stuff So does it really it really does but I still don't quite If the next level difficulty though was shooting the duck with roller blades You were really like, yeah, that was a whole other challenge right there.   That didn't die. Yeah Yeah, one of the one of the uh, one of the problems like when I was growing up There you like the only place you could really do any of that stuff was at the rink because If you try to like skate on the roads or anything Like they would always complain and like you couldn't do it in the malls or anything Like they would always, you know, just try to kick you out and stuff. So it was I like nowadays there are like these little parks and stuff where they have all the different things We can skateboard and roller blade, but um none of that stuff was anywhere near what I grew up Which kind of stunk unfortunately So I was gonna let anyone jump in on that Oh nice nice segway I did it. That's one of my most popular ones. It's the best segway there is Well, it's funny. I do it all the time in my videos so in any way It's just the ways I jump to the next topic Yeah, and sometimes I say so anyway. It's crazy. Um So, uh, this this is eFab 150 Which means we've got lots of things to get be going with all kinds of shenanigans Um, but I suppose, uh, we should we should mention and we probably will a couple times as we go forward we got um As a we lined it all up. You see me and rags. We were like, you know, what if we With our newly coming videos released at the same time as we were similarly doing the anniversary at the same time We release some other things that are coming don't worry and um do some plushies I feel like it's this is actually the first time we've done it on eFab by the way, right? It feels weird, right? But it's like, yeah, they don't actually there's going to be people in chat I have no idea what these are They're so cool So the idea Is that we we got ourselves little cuddly creature versions of us as you can see here You got a you got a mutually and a rags They are um Findable on Get all makeshift we uh, I guess you could say we partnered with them because um It was fucking ages ago that people were like we want plushie versions of you, which makes a lot of sense Um that they would because we you could see how and so I was just like trying to find ways of getting around to it Um, yeah, and yeah, I feel it was a long time coming. Yeah emails went back and forth plans were made I believe we started talking to them more than a year ago. It was a little bit ridiculous Um, but they finally happened. Um, they came out just the way that we wanted And so now if you want to pick them up there's links in the description as far as I know and uh, they are Want to pick them up. Hey, you know some people don't everybody and you can you even get a discount if you get both That is true if you grab them both you get the efap generation one discount, right and we're likely What I would normally say is if they get funded we will you know possibly consider doing a second generation They've definitely been funded. Um Yeah, so Looks pretty good. We'll probably have a have a little chat with uh, well with chat See what they would like to see in a second generation what they would be after I don't know, um Yes, they're adorable and they're only up for another 17 days and five hours So if you want to grab them that'll be the time window because unfortunately they are they don't exist forever but um Yeah, we'll we'll let you know about them a few times as we're going through and um Well, I I figure What better way to start the celebratory Anniversary stream in terms of video coverage I'm with an old favorite I mean It's become pretty clear at this point what we do when we start an anniversary stream a lot of people have predicted this And I I would have to say that um, it feels weird to not do it at this point Even though it's only been two we are now establishing a pattern So in chat you'll find your links to watch to get that set up I'm gonna go grab a drink real quick, but uh before we start also, uh, apparently kataku has discovered the hisan pike I bet I'm I'm guessing they'll come to his defense because kataku has done I do I've heard them say Dude, he bought a house. That's it. It's like It's just a house. I'm very uh, I'm very out of the loop like what is his house is worth 3.1 million I think Oh, he just bought like well above the average price United States So yeah, the criticism is that he's buying like a hyper mansion when he's in like a city filled with homelessness and stuff So just it doesn't look good. Optically it looks a little But hey, uh, Ethan, Ethan Klein came out in defense of him. So Didn't Ethan Klein do the exact same thing? Yes Yeah, I think although I think uh in fairness his His house is only 3 million. Oh, oh, oh, that's fine then. Yeah, you know what?  How did you do it? I've been in arguments where people are defending it too. They're like, well, I mean it's la So it's west hollywood. So any house is going to be around that much money or or in that park I mean west hollywood is pretty nice, but my whole thing is like, yeah, but he twitch streams in a bedroom You can do that from Nebraska like I mean if you really cared about redistributing the wealth Get a cheap place and you know They're like, you know 200, 400, 300, 3.5 million. He's just like, yeah, that's the average prices you get around there. I guess That's actually why I I moved a couple years ago because I lived in massachusetts Which had like unbelievably high cost of living and high taxes and everything So I just moved to texas where I Everybody seems to be moving to texas. That seems to be the best state in the country. Yep. I bailed from seattle to florida That's that's another really good one.  You don't pay income tax and it's just like better better Well, I mean california has some pretty good temperatures and climate stuff, but uh I mean for the most part like if you're doing this job, you can live wherever you want Why would you live somewhere where everything is ridiculously expensive? Well, I guess that's the yeah If like it's an online job as long as you got good internet You can live anywhere you want like location isn't super important anymore, which is great I think just gives people more options for what they want to do in their lives So, um, what do you want to do? I was gonna say is right it rags you back. Are you there? No I'll steal this moment to grab a drink too. I won't be long Well, I suppose we can just have a chat until then. I was going to say it's uh, it feels right Funnily enough the video we're going to have a look at is actually the one that I was originally interested in covering But then I remembered the privilege goggles one.  So I was like, well, I actually want to cover that so I'll have to wait But this one's finally here I was gonna say the um the efab backlog. We've got stuff from so long ago that'll eventually make it I think it's just gonna be a wonderful little adventure Um, but yeah, that's privilege goggles The privilege goggles thing was my efab origin story Oh, yeah, I bought myself a VR headset to train my prosthetic leg and Tweeted a video of myself training to mauler and I was like, yeah, I'm disabled and use VR specifically to help my disability It was really weird. You mean you're privileged. You mean you're privileged. Yeah, because he was He was appealing to like what a disabled people got to do with VR. It's like, oh damn One tea, there's plenty of seated experiences and it's still great After the standing one, it gives us a safe way to train Like more elaborate movements than just walking on a treadmill because that's kind of the only one you can do inside I know that was a wheel chair can still shoot a gun or swing a lightsaber That was a strangely naive comment for him to make considering that there are videos of people who have like beaten incredibly difficult games on these Really interesting configurations or even on a normal Yeah, or even on a normal keyboard a mouse or a normal controller like People will find a way if they really really want to do it and it's awesome. Like it's really it's really cool. It's uh It's kind of like the paralympics and it's like this is this is really neat And just showing like the capabilities of people This is like 10 times more interesting than the normal way There's a uh a cs go streamer. I can't for the life of me remember his name He doesn't have any arms or any hands and uh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does some really cool stuff He and he's actually he's pretty I mean he's he's pretty decent at the game too.  Yeah handy. That's what it is. Yeah, it's a great name for him Yeah, I don't need to I don't mean to make a joke about it, but you said he doesn't have any arms or hands It's like imagine he didn't have arms No arms. Yeah, it'd be like a 90s shaggy character Honestly, if he calls himself like this like come on I'm sure yeah Yeah, uh, if everyone's ready we we are happy to what is it christen? I'm here. Yeah 150 with the first video This is from jim sterling from a long time ago actually but it got remastered Now the idea in this video is remaster it What um, oh he I think it's just like a re-release also for for reference I believe jim sterling goes by the name jim stephanie sterling and is Either I can't remember if it's all all pronouns, but this is from a million years ago. So let me stop you there I just don't care. I just don't know. I I don't know how I've been very confused. I don't know The channel is still called jim sterling. So it's like so it's jim sterling, right? I get it. Okay I guess it was jim stephanie sterling went from nb and then just went straight up trains. I guess I mean I'm on twitter Branding takes priority apparently well, um So this this video was made as a result of jim having made a video that pissed people off because Politics started to dribble into it, which is kind of funny to think about now because it's only that with jim sterling now Um And so the point was sorry that was the point of a different one This one was just like i'm getting annoyed at my audience because they're saying I have biases and i'm letting them decide What I have to say so how about I show you what happens if you try and be objective That's the idea in this video. Okay. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah Wow, what a suitable one for us to start on Oh, you know, I'll probably mute this part. I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know if yeah I don't think that's copyright Isn't it like a it's from it's from a band of some kind, right? Maybe he But like he's on there. Oh, maybe whatever. I think the band like made the song for him, didn't they? I kind of remember I'm not sure. Okay. Your old pal jim sterling here now We have had a white a week and I don't like to miss a monday So when schedules become so tied up that I can't do an episode I have my art director Justin mcdaniel go through the vaults and see what we've got in our back catalog That's due a remaster because what's good for the game industry is good for us except for Almost everything it does remember this is this is I guess remember this what's good for the game industry is good for us All right, but this one he's it accept everything they basically do he's only appealing to remasters If I'm actually fine with remasters if done well fine with remasters if they're done good. Yeah It's just got remastered. It's great Yeah, right. I bought it on everything just to support it. I think you mean Fantastic, I think giving free upgrades to like whatever platform you have like if you already have it or yeah So if you had quake on steam, you now have the quake remastered on steam as well, and it's yeah, it's super good It's great. It's fantastic. You should go play it to brand new expansion packs with it too In addition to both the old ones as well Like four player co-op cross play campaign and deathmatch It's super super go and if you're on game pass you already have you have all Yeah, I was about to mention. It's uh, I actually played it a little bit yesterday. It's uh, it's fun to play That game pass is a really sick. I don't know why you didn't invite me.  Oh It's a bit circular, but all right Because it means I don't miss a monday Not yet anybody so with god of war out and people Tugging their shortened curl is about reviews We figured it's a good time to remind everyone of what an objective review looks like Now before you'll nail it before We are presented with such ideas If someone said to be like well, what is an objective review almost to like dismiss the idea I'd be like well, I assume it's gonna be you're more so describing what is right? That's just gonna be the main thing.  I could possibly come up with Like a colloquial understanding This is a game It has this yeah, like and then you can expand that in interesting ways like much with reviewing literally anything It doesn't work Like this is how these things mix and match and here's what's done You can elaborate and get as detailed as you want to be like the simple version for all of these would be like This is a cake. There you go. My objective review is done. Oh, this is a car This is a video game and like there's there's a sentiment I'm not saying this is Jim's sentiment But there's a sentiment of like that's as far as you can go and it's like well, I mean we could talk about what's I mean if you're But what was in the car if you're a boring loser, then yes, that's as far as you can go if you're not creative at all I feel like that's not even a review. You're just stating like something Yeah, you you can make you can make qualitative Objective observations of video games too like you can say something like this game has a consistent frame rate And it is always running well And that is objective because it either does or it doesn't and it will affect whether the game is good or bad as a result As far as I feel like frame rate is the easiest one to talk about because it's like the high The higher the frame rate means the faster the response time and Surely resolution too if you if you point out it's like this only goes at 140p you'd be like Oh I like games at 140p One person says I like playing games at one pixel by one pixel It's like see now you can't be objective about anything because somebody's expressed a preference All they would have done is remove the part where you could say this is bad for everyone Instead they've rolled you back to stating that that's the case and I still think that that should count as a review You've provided information that's not going to be commonly understood and it's useful information for many people Right. Yeah, and you could still be objective while looking at the camera in funny ways that indicate exactly what you think about each of these things the tony of voice and And if someone was like, well, that's where you're letting your biases see kids for like, okay So we have to be a little bit literal that because if that's what you're saying if literally like if I said Oh, I love tlj. They'll be like see you're implying you don't like it. I should like it's like no I'm not implying anything. I'm just Or are you saying that an objective review has to be said in a flat tone? If you define it that way then yeah, they're gonna start getting boring I don't know. I've seen some texas beach robots that have a tone that's You could have a bias in it worked well for rb and the chief Exactly the robot has a bias. It's like I really like rpg. I don't know But I guess I'll try What are these things that he's got? I recognize something from undertale those are boglins Boglins Yeah, those are another thing from the 90s, right or that were those 80s. I think they are actually 80s Yeah, these do not ring a bell to me for a good home at maybe yours Oh, dang you Speak and he shall come or something speaking of boglins No, I'm more like speaking of rb and the chief Yes, that was boy. Well, if it isn't john cjg, how'd you do? Hello guys Yeah, hello, john. We just got started. We're talking about reviews and literally just got rb and the chief mentioned And that was unrelated You know, I love it nice Um mentioned in the context of good use of text to speech.  Like getting them to say the word the way you want him to but you can still write it down the way it's supposed to be understood and stuff I used to test it a lot, but I've done it for so long now that I can just I can I can read a sentence and I know exactly how microsoft sam or mic are going to say it like I don't even Have one Yeah, it's been like two since 2007 or something. I'm just I'm an expert at it now Um, if you scroll up, you'll find a watch together link. We're checking out, um, jim sterling's objective review It's like a criticism of we don't want objective reviews. We want people to be biased and we're just gonna see what what's said What's implied Okay, thank you for filling me in. Uh, do you have a watch together thing? Yeah, yeah scroll up. You'll find it I can uh read hosted I spoon It's right under the adorable rags plushie get one today Get one today. Awesome. Thank you.  I'm in on it Who is this rags that's falling about? I don't understand Uh, all you've missed is is the idea that this is a remastered video So, uh, it's from a while ago, but it was in response to people saying wow I wish people would be more objective when reviewing god of war, which was was that 2018 or 19 2018 2018 So, um, this video was put out Hey, I see Okay, this isn't funny. It's all right. So enjoy that Final fantasy 13 is a video game released on the playstation 3 And xbox 360 it was developed by square enix. It stars characters One of the characters is called lightning and that is the main character of the game that can be played Now you could probably understand what's happening here already Yeah, and now it's all like, okay So we're not gonna another four minutes of this and I already get it and I can already tell that Yeah, we've gone We've teared a butt So you can do this with the hyper subjectivity. All right the equivalent to this with hyper subjectivity is just going I like the characters. I like the story. I like the fact that it's a game I like that it's by square enix like there you go. I'm done review in my opinion Yeah reviews over we did it. This actually has nothing to do with being objective because like one of the most frustrating things about this Is like wow you sound so bored and it's like yeah because objective views are boring. It's like, okay So there's a lot of creators on youtube who do this and are highly successful because of how entertaining they are Absolutely. This is where what we call the talent comes in. Yeah You find this a lot of the time with some documentaries There was that video that I think I mentioned a while back on you However, it was like comparing documentary styles ones where they basically dictate how you should feel about things and then ones Where they show you what's happening and it's so like the event itself is so um interesting or uh A particular way that that's enough to just make you feel things from the fact that they're just showing you stuff That is they don't have to add anything to it and I find that like You know if if someone's trying to bring down a game and they show your compilation of the hitbox Is not working or the ai not working is if someone was like this is boring. It's like is it I don't know no I seem to call that total biscuit did it pretty well exactly. I was literally about to say I miss total biscuit Yeah, he's the reason we need him more than ever He's literally the reason that I started making content. He was huge inspiration For me it was hitler Total hitler So this is you know, this is the first time I've that I've I've sorry to Interrupt your no we can fill in Okay, just round upon hitler some more, please. Um, so this is the first time I've actually seen this video by What's his face? Um, is is the argument here that if you're In including any sort of uh excitement or or emotion then somehow the review is bad I think what I think what I think he's trying What I think he's trying to say about the like this topic is this idea that you There is no possible way to like make an interesting Review that is worthwhile to anybody unless there's elements of subjectivity in there Significant ones too and it was probably in response to some criticism he received I would imagine Yeah, you know, this reminds me a lot of the stuff of that stupid shit. They say about how everything is political because When this sounds This is a way for Jim, right?   I hate it.      Everyone's got biases in they leave me alone It's like yeah, but we're highlighting that your ones are fucking up the whole thing Like do you not see the difference because like oh yeah, I like the blue hat people can recognize that Pretty much self-evidently as just me subjectively saying I like this hat and it doesn't it's very self-contained Yeah, I feel like we're almost missing the The obvious part though when it comes to the idea of because I think I think the big Thing that's getting pushed back against in this video is the idea that you can make any qualitative assessment at all Without immediately becoming subjective But it was like that can't be the case if we have defined like definitions of things And then we can use those definitions to figure out Exactly how well something is is doing at being like that For instance, if you have a hat and it's got like a massive hole in the top of it And then like whenever it rains you get like soaked in water is like oh, this is a this is a neutral hat This is neither a good nor bad hat Despite the fact that it's failing to do what it fundamentally needs to do and that's the thing Someone would be like, ah, so you're saying if something fails its purpose then it must not be good It's like so to be more specific because I had this trouble with the hitbox and ds2 people Like what if I like it when the hitboxes don't match the models? So what if I like it if I get my leg broken by a sledge hammer? Humans are amazing like that. So I was like, okay, but hitboxes are defined like as a Skill set as a craft. They're supposed to do this. This is what they are designed for What we have here are a whole different subset. They're really good shitty hitboxes They are excellent at being this other thing because they're clearly not hitboxes because they're not doing what hitboxes do Like Definitionally as we've all come to label it and understand it rock it in stone What is a hitbox is like it's supposed to apply to the model and it provides you Damage or whatever a marker because the the model itself doesn't that's the way it looks versus the way it's programmed And it's just like no, that's subjective.  You can make up your mind on that if you want, but that's exactly whether you like what the information is I mean that that's on you, but the information is what it is I think it is very much that scroll of truth. Yeah big, isn't it? I think people that like bad hitboxes probably also like mcu smoke monsters Oh, yeah mcu smoke monsters are the bad hitboxes of super hero Also, I don't I don't uh, I guess I just I don't really fully grasp the the argument that they're making where You can't be genuinely excited for something that is objectively good or you can't be genuinely upset at something that is objectively bad like you can point out something that is Not subject. Uh, excuse me something that is objective And you can be happy for it, which is kind of like a subjective You know feeling but it I don't see how that how that kind of changes anything like If if you're if something is bad or something is good from an objective point of view Um, I it doesn't really change the the the review Like I I guess I'm I'm kind of failing to I mean most of these arguments don't make sense But I guess I kind of don't understand like so I get what you mean, right? Like yeah, do you lose anything by Watching somebody try and do it in that way even if you disagree with the notion that it's possible Do you not get a single thing out of it or is your issue just with the fact that they've labeled it as such Which I guess is one thing but like what do you what does this video I have to do with getting that point across I would almost argue a classic Direction to this as well as that two people come to the conclusion.   No, that's I understand meanwhile second person is like no I just don't like him because he just doesn't make a lot of sense to me Like he's angry all the time But um everything like the in terms of his actions are always incredibly like useful helpful and positive Or something trying to highlight something that just doesn't seem to work for them And they're getting confused as to how they can get invested in the character. It's like two very different conversations Um And you could call them objective subjective based on it's this experience They have this forcing them to to experience something that you can't possibly you wouldn't have the same experience Meanwhile, the other person it's like you might actually take that information in because it comes from the content You might even conclude the same thing or you could be like no, no, no That's the point They are they're angry exterior But the actions they take are always in favor of people because they don't actually feel that way They just they just want people to look at them that way Also, and you have like a lot of information to support it and I find that the conversations are super interesting When you can recognize the differences instead of saying fuck objective like being objective in any way Everyone just say how they feel about stuff like oh Okay A car When you're buying let's say with a car analogy So I need if you if you have to choose between both sides In an extreme sense a purely objective review, which is basically a an exact description of something and a pure subjective review Which one will actually help you pick out the car that you need the best? Absolutely the objective board. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I don't know anyone could disagree I suppose there's someone out there was like, well, I don't I want to know what the feel of the car is I don't care about Imagine imagine trying to construct a building Not feeling extremely objective Well, I think there's no there's There's no room for that we throw it in jail Yeah, there's no room for that and um like I don't know how to categorize this but um building a house or Or architecture and stuff.  Well, it's subjective No, no, no When the building inspectors roll up to your building and they measure the grade of your handicap accessibility ramps I feel like it was Flat enough is not going to be a good defense when they hand you a big-ass fine until you that you have to spend even more money to change it All right Those who didn't know and they have to do that stuff all the time They get hired to go out and check buildings and make sure they're all up to all the codes and everything to measure Um to do a bunch of surveying work But also they they talk often about well if we do an addition We have to have the style of the addition. We want it to match The building that's being attached to but we also should take into account. What are the other buildings around? Should it match them as well? We don't want it to stick out like a sore thumb things of that nature So it's a huge mix of you know beauty and You know whenever houses come up in these conversations. It's impossible not to reference the uh the simpsons episode Look at the house that love built It's just like Was that it's like well in my opinion a house that falls down as soon as it's been built is good So there's no such thing as a good or bad house. And it's like you could say that but let's be real nobody nobody Sorry Oh, it's just gonna say it's like nobody really believes this like including jim Because there would definitely be games that he considers to be just completely Irredeemable or completely broken. Yeah, awful terrible And i'm not gonna worry too much nor do I think anyone should really worry too much about trying to really win over The crazy ass people who are in the vast minority fringes who are just nuts Yes, um as much as they probably exist give it mathematical Probably Because like we've seen it with so many people we cover where they will slip randomly into Oh, yes, like this is bad though. This is but wait. Whoa, that goes because everything you said is a bad movie It's impossible not because again, nobody believes that custard's revenge and like Grand theft auto 5 Can be compared in terms of like quality There's nobody in the world who is sitting there and unironically going to pretend like it's interchangeable whether those games are as good or Bad as each other and theft auto is custer's revenge. Yeah, basically the same.  I didn't know that Yeah, I didn't know that So I saw some pictures of the foundations like just like cracking in a horrible awful way Like something out of a disaster movie Yeah Well, yeah, um, regular regulations are incredibly important and they're used because of health and safety you can't of like Lucky for well to a degree rating systems are an example of actually trying to get some level of Objectivity in terms of what is in the thing so that we can properly represent it to the audience Of course, there's going to be Biases with how people execute it and confusion in terms of the rules because they're rating like thousands every day or whatever Um, but it's still an attempt to be like this is what is in there and I'm going to represent it with a symbol um Because you need to know for the safety of your you know children or people who aren't uh Equipped to to view what's going to happen and stuff and it's just like there's no space to be like it's fine though It's all blah blah blah it's like no no no we can't go to get this way you can stop it especially when we get into mathematics stuff, um when we're You know when we're dealing with things like that that are as pretty much as objective as you could possibly get because they're they're essentially constructs um They're not even a part of the universe in the sense of even a solipsist would probably have to agree that Mathematics are provable things You can't pull the it's just subjective card on stuff like that and it's why it's the go-to You know the two plus two is fourth thing You can't you can't get out of that We've said before as well that if you want to pull the card of we are human beings We are like fleshy creatures that exist as if there's no way we can View or understand anything in an objective way compared to the universe or whatever. She's like man, that is so useful Well come wait to use that for everything. We could be in the matrix.   Well, yeah, this is how i'm actually in capacity for all in Awareness we have so It's like well, what you can do is if you really feel that you can go away and the rest of humanity Can continue to use the scientific method and all of these other Incredibly reliable methodologies to arrive at the best explanations for the truth of the universe and we'll keep building civilizations and advanced machinery and Philosophies and stuff and you can sit there and you can bitch about it And it's worth noting Um being objective doesn't mean being reaching some level of absolute truth Of course not Yeah, because it's not it's not that easy One of the one of the comments that I I actually see quite often is that well, I don't care if I don't care if this You know if if such and such is wrong or this you know dialogue was whatever I still liked it and my response is always it it doesn't matter if it's You know You can have movies that are objectively bad in terms of CGI and dialogue and this and that and you can still have a fun time watching it and For some reason people like get really defensive about that they're like Well, you can't say that the the movie's bad because I liked it like no No, it's objectively a bad movie But it's fine if you like it if you enjoy it then watch it Well, and if you switch out some of the words you'll you'll get through to them quicker typically, right? Like if you say it's objectively inconsistent What we're told to be true is folded back on and so investment is I'm struggling to get invested meanwhile other stories don't do that they Establish x and stick to x or something like that and then you're just like that's that's how I Prefer to because like I find most of the time whenever people bring in their list of criticisms They'll it'll often be some form of a contradiction even if they don't want to appeal to that Like I think people's brains often will notice things and they just it's like the whole the plinket thing If you might not have noticed but your brain did There there is an aspect of this just doesn't work and my brain can recognize this doesn't work How much attention I give that? but Part of us like I'm just gonna say quickly we want to solve problems a lot of the time And so we're trying to figure a lot of this different things out and naturally like in a way that can just happen Without necessarily realizing it and so the only high top says Fucking teen titan sucks because the plot line makes no sense and then he's like wonder woman 84 though top notch and you're like Oh, but Huh, the thing you said about that one is in that one though. And it's like yeah I can pick whatever I want as my flaws and my positives in each thing. You're like, oh I'll tell him not a reviewer by the way. Also. He's not a review. Yeah. Well, no wait. Wasn't it film mentor that said that? I don't know But you tell you which things are good and which are bad and so yeah It's just like so why did you even tell me those were your reasons if those reasons Aren't meaningful in any way. They just they happen or they don't randomly like I don't I don't know what's the put like even from his perspective What's the point? Because like what what do you achieve when you're like today? This was annoying me. I don't know if it will tomorrow.  I want It's a yeah, it's basically five nights at freddy's starring nick cage and um Like it is like the cgi the costumes a bunch of the dial it is like It is objectively objectively bad in a lot of ways, but it is still a hilarious uh fun movie to watch and um something one thing that I didn't even know going into it Because I was like 10 15 minutes in and i'm waiting for nick cage to say something. He doesn't say anything He he has he basic He not a single line of dialogue not a single utterance from nick cage for the entire movie That was like one of the points like that's they thought okay. Hey, let's uh, let's make a horror movie horror air quotes horror movie where The main character doesn't say anything and i'm like, you know 15 20 minutes in and then I did a quick search on it And I found that but like when you see the costumes for like the animatronics like there is They look like bad sports mascots like it's so obvious that it's a guy in the suit And they make no attempt at all to hide it and like it's it's so bad But it's so good at the same time and like this is I think it'd be worthwhile if you say you reviewed it And you went over all the the technical stuff and then you weren't I want to talk about why I like it so much And if you figured it out like you know what what elements are making you appeal to it Then it's totally fair to go through it all. I think oh, yeah, I'm already writing the script Um, it's it's yeah, it's it's it's a great movie if you haven't seen it go and watch it You can get it for like three dollars on amazon right now. You look good, but uh How we're up. Yeah, it's it's hilarious. Oh Oh batman robin e-fut movies kind of Is is where a point two if anyone was curious about that with us like look how much fun we're having Did that yeah, okay? That was that wasn't That was so much fun. It was really that made that movie made me smile like endlessly Also, can I say that um It is objectively bad to bring in nicolas cage and not let him act Oh, no, he he doesn't he does a great job. He he's definitely actually he actually does act You say he doesn't say anything he has no dialogue But he is absolutely nic caging his way through that entire movie his facial expressions can be pretty priceless a lot of the time Like there's there's a lot of gifts of nicolas cage for a reason Okay, good. Never mind. I take it back sweet Um, he can give a really restrained performance under the right director.  I kind of want that that legacy for um, brennan frazier I wanted to start turning up in all kinds of things. It's just guy we like He's doing more stuff now, right? He's brennan frazier being cast in a scorsese movie was a victory for canada I I hope that's because scorsese is just vaguely aware of how brennan frazier needs a break You know, he needs something to happen like please be that reason On the uh topic of nic cage has anyone Seen the movie pig yet. I have no yeah, I want to that really impressed me I love this performance in that that was like the most restrained i've seen him in I can't even remember how long When really interesting because like the trailer was really kind of confusing um So Really recently it's yeah, it's like a month old Oh, okay Sorry, the the movie totally wasn't what I thought it was because it's set up To make you think like it's a revenge thriller. It's like they killed my pig and now they're gonna pay It's totally not that like I was expecting it to just be a yeah, that's kind of why it's not It's much more, um contemplative than that. Oh, uh, thanks, I guess I Spoilers should have cut them all frags if you didn't want to know Sorry, I didn't mean to say that as a spoiler. I just I was just talking about the tone of the film broadly like it's I I mean, I think it's better if people go into that movie not expecting like a A bloody revenge thriller because I was like off put I felt like the rug was pulled out From under me a little bit. It's like, oh, that wasn't what I thought it was and it took me some time to like appreciate the film based because of that like Being caught off guard like that. I would have enjoyed it better had I known what I was in for broadly speaking going in Yeah, fair enough. Mm-hmm. All right then very well. Let us see what else we got Can be played with a controller the game story is about a lightening and a collection of other characters Who must fight some other characters called falsy and save a planet called cocoon The story has a beginning and an ending and a middle bit Yes, this would only be critical of the speaker because even with this great. Yeah, this is Oh, absolutely I already would I'm already imagining how I would do this better and it isn't difficult because doing things better than jim sterling It's not it's not Would it would it be 99% objective to be like this is a game that has a beginning and an end You know like is that does that because your inflection implies the the fact that there's an end is a good thing which is objective I feel like Well, no, just anything you read into it. That's a you problem. All right. That's that's that's all Especially if sargasm exists You can't be sure of exactly what you're in you can't like be 100 sure you've inferred the correct See because I think that jim's being sarcastic. So this is no 100 objective review You've failed at parodying what you were trying to do That's breaking at the seams it's disintegrating before our eyes and screaming Let me fuddle. I'm just got the the rough irony of like, you know, like, um grand tour stuff They'll often describe the statistics relating to a car And then they will get into how they feel about it And there's this obvious like you can understand the difference as in it has this horsepower uses this engine It's made from this model from this time where it's been updated to have blah blah blah has this this this and then they go And it just feels amazing.  It's like, I don't think it objectively Would would would work that way for every person who's in that car But it's just cool to know that, you know, the person you trust for cars is saying it feels amazing to use or it Reminds them of xyz and like It would be weird. Yeah, if they said like, well, so that's not an objective review I'd be like, well, I mean all of this all of the statistics and descriptions are all true Um, they all relate to things that exist and are like, I don't see what the problem is And yeah, this seems more like a bitter video to be like screw you. I can do whatever I want.  And it's like, oh It wasn't like nobody was asking for this It's kind of exhausting already like I'm already super over it I think it's annoying. Yeah, like this is just the this shtick And we did we like I get it, you know Yeah, this is not five minute shtick. You get it in the first 15 seconds and that's it Yeah, this is where you cut it off and you go back to see I mean, yeah, exactly I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for him to be like, okay So there you go. You've seen and then to make some sort of commentary or or criticism But to just continue doing this It's killing me He'd probably make the point much better if he was talking about how much value there can be in a person explaining their subjective experience Yeah Like to be like this is why subjective is better. Not why Objective is bad. Yeah, where is it appropriate or where is it helpful to be subjective? Where is it not? Where should you know? How do you make the distinction very clear because some people have an issue with that? Um Yeah, that was what those would be things that would be legitimately useful How do you keep both of them in your review? Keep them distinct from one another and when would it be appropriate for one to hit instead of the other? In the equivalent for like grand tours if the the beginning of their review, he's like So I think the chassis is just it's I so it's just I really love the colors and the and the look of it The wheels they're really just um, I find them so just just oh gosh so cool They're very round the engine really cool.  It's I love how small it is. It's so good.  So in the interest of saving everyone's time insanity like this bit ends at the 418 mark Do we just want to skip right over there?  Yes It shows the audience your knowledge of the material you're covering And it will help you be more accurate about the things you actually say And they would assume that it was hard to acquire compared to just watching this video And therefore what you've done is a service Simple as that that's because like a lot of documentary style Breakdowns of things that's usually the appreciation when you're just like man All this information is so easy to just take on it's from all these different places in time and different sources and stuff It's just like nice it works sort of thing. Um, I think it was mentioned the last time Moriarty was here I'm not sure but the uh the polybius and the the first game ever from ahoy from ahoy Both of them are very objective Let's just put it that way. He's uh It's actually fun whenever he lets a line into his scripts that are clearly like just how he feels about the particular thing You're like, hey um And he does it incredibly well like masterpiece Yeah, the point of it all is that he's trying to get an answer For these questions without like his own beliefs involved. He's like look at these things. Where do they lead us? Mm-hmm Some people like it some people don't he's like ha being objective is pointless, isn't it? It's like, well, why don't you look into that? What did they say? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what makes it more effective than the combat system in final fantasy 12 or 10 You can Check more or less objectively This is what these people say. This is what these people say it seemed This is what the rating of the game is and most people feel this way about it However, others say this about like this is ideally like what like a news like a news broadcasting channel Is is how do how can we try and be objective about everyone's opinions on things and stuff like that? Right, this party thinks this the other party thinks this here's such and such from such and such and here's someone else And they'll yell at each other for five minutes. Yeah, what are they saying? And then the viewer decides Well, you can start to explore whether or not any of those are legitimate or not and still be completely objective Right like if they're making these complaints user a likes this and user b doesn't like this Is there is there any water behind that? You know Also, even just looking at this still frame here I can see that I could have the subjective reaction that this UI is very cluttered. I've never played final fantasy 13 It's just one of the ones I've never missed personally like actually, but it's very cluttered. There's a lot of stuff going on However, you could also then say as a person with experience with the game Here's why all that information needs to be on screen and why it is very Affective for the the combat system and then I'd be like, oh, that's that's interesting. Also I don't know how much of this is animated right now, but it I'm seeing a lot of empty space in the middle I don't I think it's mid-animation, but if it's not and that's gonna be a problem And if someone was to say I just like like whatever all of that still Subjective in some ways if I was like, but it's still way more useful than literally just going I like it Or I don't like it Because I I don't know what it is about these people But it's like they often want to just be like no, I don't care what the reasoning for you liking it is just get on with it It's like damn Isn't that like the interesting part?  That was that was as well Good looks like Fringy has been hired by James Dylan, huh? Yeah, that was quick. No, Fringy. Don't do it Uh, don't let him have your go it says for hire not hired god plans god just read Well, I mean, I was an assumption I made I might still be right.  So now it's bad. Oh, it's your It's Yeah, why are you denying us our lived experiences? It's your truth. Wow, Fringy doing it once again just like with the ups guy That's like the new in my opinion. It's my truth My truth what the lived experience You know, I was like you could you could say in my opinion And people use it as a get out of jail free car for anything that comes afterwards Because they say well, it's just my opinion. It's just how I feel and so you could do the whole well That's my truth As if I live in some separate pocket dimension from the rest of all of you guys where yeah, the objective facts are just different for me So there was a point. I think 2019 I put a tweet out about it But I was noticing like when did we transition over from saying opinion to take Because like it sounds so much more agreeable when people say it's my take like like, okay Here's my take about this or blah blah blah rather than it's my opinion And I wonder if it's because opinion became a bit more sullied in terms of like It gets read now is more so please leave me alone I'm about to say something that you might not like rather than all right Because when you say here's my take it sounds a lot quicker and just just like yeah, I'm getting it out there I don't care what you think. This is it especially with hot. It's like, you know three syllables versus one. It's like, you know The terms keep getting overlapped like subjective truth and objective truth But people will say my truth and you don't know which one they're talking about Which one's that they always need to be distinguished and they're not no whenever someone says my truth. It just means they're wrong Yeah, I suppose you could also read that as the actual truth But you would only know it if you saw things from my perspective Because I know things that you don't based on the experiences that I had But it seems like it's always used in the context of you know, like a like a twitter person being like Well, I don't need to explain why this happened. It's just my truth and it's like, oh god That's probably a good response when they say that you go you mean not everyone else's truth. Yeah Yeah Hmm Like there is weapon weapon leveling, but that's it. That's all I can do because I'm being objective So if you like it, that's good for you if you don't it's not it's like you don't even tell us what it was I don't know if I like it. How could I possibly know if I like it or not? You haven't told me this is such a great example because when you talk about like weapon leveling You could say a lot Without saying your opinion about it. Yep, you can talk about Okay, so when you level up in this game, it only increases. It starts by this much or it only increases damage or like makes you Gives you more health gives makes it so that your weapons are more effective against these types of enemies This is different from say x game where upgrades fundamentally change what the weapon does And then you don't even need to say whether or not you think that's good or bad You could just leave it at that and let people figure out every time you get a hundred that has the weapon It increases by such and such percent and I guess uh, all I'm trying to get at is like you cannot say anything about how you feel about it And it can be incredibly useful for other people because they can figure out how they feel about it If I whether or not that's something they're interested in if I describe a system This game has a pistol a shotgun and a machine gun that's the all the weapons they have Um when you get to the final level for all of them the fire rate is almost the same for all of them The damage is highest on the shotgun Um and the range is the highest on the I guess Point being you lay out statistically what they're all doing by the time they hit the end game And there's one that's clearly a power leveled above the other two and you're like So this will be the one that most people will end up going with and it like Brings a disbalance to the game the plasma cutter and dead space Oh, well in call of duty easy example is there's always one dominant gun and then everybody uses that one gun And you can say something about that. It's like well, you know It I I wonder what can be said about the fact that this game has 20 weapons, but everybody uses one I wonder if there's anything about that that's not great Well, you can like uh-oh You can establish weapons have statistics like numbers you you can look up. What is the dps of this weapon? What is its reload time? What is the size of the magazine and these are all just objective facts about what the gun is I think that's what's interesting is the I video games in particular It's like there's a lot in video games that's just locked in stone because it's code Like it's just this is what it is Yeah, so you can you can describe what it is and in a video game That's a lot of what a game is how you feel about it. It's obviously entirely up to you There's a lot that we said we simulate If we simulate that conversation, right? The you go so this gun is statistically better than all the other ones and your goal in this game is to end lives as fast as possible Uh, you pick this one. They go. No, I don't so I don't like the way it looks. You're like, okay Okay, but And then of course the big thing is can you disagree with my statement that this is the gun that kills the enemies the quickest And the game is to kill enemies the quickest. Yeah, you can be like skin is in solid gold And it doesn't have a pot me on it. So I don't want to use It's actually Kind of funny because I've heard that argument before in like world of warcraft and stuff where People would deliberately not use better equipment Because they thought it was ugly Like it's I don't know. So there are people that make weird decisions. Yeah, I'm I'm sure there are As long as they were saying, oh, yeah, I know the gun's better, but I way prefer the skin I've got on this gun. You're like, okay Well, just I'm more used to using this one. Yeah, specifically. Yeah, because this happens with guns I am more familiar with this gun So even though this other gun is objectively better in terms of just the sheer damage output or whatnot Because I am so personally familiar with this weapon. I just get better results from it And and literally like you can't appeal to just I just want to feel good and I like the rainbow skin on that Gun, so I'm just I'm having fun. Absolutely. Yeah, it's good that we have a representation within firearms. Oh, yes Real quick, I just maybe you you would know maybe the is there a filter over this video. It looks pretty It's a great Yeah, I don't know why that's objective looks objectively bad. Let me just say this is supposed to be remastered Jim has remastered the video by adding a new one-minute intro that is probably recorded at the same time as doing Modern intros just added to like a quick script. So if you're going to remaster it, wouldn't you change the visuals to be updated? But no, this looks so terrible. What does remaster mean to him?  Re-releasing. Re-release, that's it. Full price and I want to highlight I think it's supposed to be conveyed as like it's it's it's an extra boring visual filter It looks fucked like something happened in Failing miserably again, if you're gonna make fun of the whole objective review thing since where would anyone go? You can save the game if you want sometimes like well, buddy This is just not popping up in any review. Yeah. So at this point it's like, what are you even making fun of like? What is this?  Even he shouldn't be saying stuff like yeah, just trust what's on the box all right, I mean How do you? Man, well, because I feel like you start applying it this way then it's like Shit, would people not just say this to you when it comes to any criticism of like aspects of the video game industry Business practices funny you say that free because if you remember he gave the one out of ten to uh It's a new sacrifice because of like a game breaking bug A game breaking bug We mean game breaking. Yeah, what do you mean making bug? It's a game That sounds pretty subjective Are you implying that there is a state of breaking and functionality? I like that. It makes me happy to see the game breaking bug. Yeah, I love it. It's my favorite experience I love when I love when there's a paywall that prevents me from finishing the game That's just like it's so rewarding to fork over money to continue playing a game. I already bought I love it How can you tell me that that's wrong?  That doesn't mean anything It is no longer a roof It is a shite roof if it is a roof like it's a terrible hat It was a roof. It's that's right. It's just a really interesting hat made out of like Made out of roofing tiles and the blood from your brain and it's just horrible For Well, I think with uh cyberpunk we learned that people are willing to put up with quite significant games That's true because they're on your side. They're on our side guys.  It's like thank you I won't be picking it up. Yeah, save my money for someone goes whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa It's about whether or not you like glitches or not I feel like crowed cat's a really good example. He doesn't say anything about whether or not anything's good or bad It's just presented I think I think jim and many others would say that's still not an objective review because you've chosen Uh, it's like you framed it. So it's still so so the But like this is framed what he's doing right here. He's describing the game Yeah, but I guess this is what I mean is like once we get this broad and nebulous It's like nothing means anything and it's like cool, but I'm again. I'm a human like there's only so much that my little brain can Wrap it wrap this thing around well too bad I I reviewed cyberpunk on geeks and gamers and and I liked it more than most people did But even my video ends with me saying yeah, don't buy this game though Because it's certainly not it's got a lot of problems that need to be fixed Yeah, I mean I was running it on like basically a super computer because I built this machine for editing And thus it runs games very well But I'm like even even my experience had a lot of very objective problems Like the way the police system works at the game. It's just flat out bad And I think it would be silly to be like well, but I had fun with it because I like the genre So buy it it's like well, no There's objective problems in addition to my subjective enjoyment Has cyberpunk been been fixed like to any Reason I've heard it's gone better I don't know the newest patch is supposed to fix a whole lot But I've kind of just said I'm gonna go back to it in like a year So maybe I'll give it a shot again in december and see my plan is to wait until the first big dlc releases for it Yeah, that's the song that I do and like you had hearts of stone and blood and wine for the witcher three So whenever they make their big first dlc I will go back then and I will play through it because I want it to be very good because I have not played really Really any cyberpunk kind of stuff. So it would be nice to have a game to play That's you know, like I just recommend like a revolution Yeah, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, if you want a new one human revolution I got ghost runner divided ghost runner is really good. It's like It's a bigger cyberpunk cross between Mirror's edge and hotline miami. It's like all these sort of parkour puzzles that you go through It's it one hit and you die, but also one hit kills every enemy katana zero I was like that too. That's uh, that was a really cool game Yeah, it's pretty solid cyberpunk as well. So that's and and it's it's probably like 10 bucks in fact Yeah, that that would be and it had a really cool story as well The essence also a fun time and it's it's on game pass for both pc Yeah, I got I've got that but I gotta play with my uh with my friends Friends I feel like they're my friends Alrighty, let's see if we can get to the end. I don't know if any else of interest is gonna happen And sound the graphics are seen with your eyes and the sound is heard by your ears when you start the game The graphics and the sound will occur almost at the same time. Well, I feel like here's an easy one What if you had a game what like has epi? Well, I mean we got an example I wasn't this a thing with cyberpunk that there was like epi there was a there was a sequence of flash Yeah, the potentially could trigger epilepsy. Yeah, that was really No, that's irrelevant I guess I will push it really far. What about a game that deliberately tries to cause Epileptic seizures in people by having a certain configuration of flashlights legendary develop Let's kill some people Um, oh we have hit max capacity I was gonna say we are now at 10 exactly and we'll see how how everything goes with that. Hello thought theater. How'd you do? Good, how are you was was sitting here? I was chilling out watching some videos as you do good stuff Yes, things are going great. I'm getting married in a little over a week Very excited, so yeah, things are things are looking up We uh, we did move e-fap away from next week just for that. We didn't want to get in the way You know, I'm gonna take view as away from the experience thinking of uh having a family later uh, yeah, yep Thinking of woman and a dog maybe a maybe a baby. They're gonna curating the movie experience.  That's right Oh, no, well like like uh four five and six as in that that saga or the 789, you know, you could throw one two and three in there right? It's all the Skywalker saga the whole thing Yes, I'll throw the Palpatine saga I'll save one two and three for when they're when they're ready when they understand what makes four five and six good And then one two three can this is like an in-cell podcast.  I forgot ruin it lose your membership. I got married a month ago, too Oh, man, everyone's getting married Well I guess it's time for us to maybe tie the knot. I don't know just saying If you got the link we are checking out gym stealing making fun of the the idea of trying to be objective Oh, it's fascination. Wow itself like we're playing at a double speed right now to get through it The point he is making you could do it in 15 seconds the guy tries to do it in four minutes And it's not bad. I will admit I find it slightly more interesting than that in the in so if you were like, how do you talk about audio objectively? That sounds absurd. I'm gonna write down in my script. There is sounds You know like Why so there's a couple ways to to go about that like when you're being In objective critic typically the value comes from how the audio is in relation to the story Or like how it just further gives context to what's going on But if you just describe it as is, I mean that's objective, but I don't think it's valuable necessarily There are so many things like I say this as if you all don't know but how many things you can talk about related to audio Holy shit, like You're infinite You can't limit the amount of video game that the plays audio so loud that it deafens you If I said this opening door sound is played in almost every Mainstream movie because it is a stock sound that I play examples and I don't comment on whether or not that's a good thing That's still really useful and interesting.  Yeah, that sound box up everywhere It's a neat trivia.   I cringe. I I find it cute I'm like, oh, it's like a punchline now like whoever used it. It's like tongue-in-cheek pretty much also another really objectively useful uh piece is if like audio is done in a way that like actually triggers, um Uh peoples tinnitus Like oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah Well, when you push it to extremes, right?  It's really kind of For me, it's one of a kind in the terms of how it's done But if you just if you if you fail with the music and that game and the sound stuff You just flat out have a different game as As I said at the beginning of booting up amnesia the doctor said I think it says like please make sure there's like no noises around you And uh that you have like a setup that you can pay attention because the sound is incredibly important Yes, you got headphones put them on Yeah, hellblade is a different game if you're not wearing headphones or have a very good surround sound setup And I guess that kind of we're getting to almost like Is it not Do we really want to not Credit the the work that people are doing when they're doing a really good job at what they're you know At specific things like a lot of direction or sound design Oftentimes that's fine. It's when you do the other thing. It's when you're negative.  They just don't know they're doing it. They're not aware enough of their own positions I think it is the fundamental thing of like everybody agrees on some level that there is like good and bad To some degree Well, I was about to say even if all else fails This is colloquially accepted as in like when I say the audio is shit Someone's in their head immediately thinking like is it scratchy and staticky? Is it really low? Is it just in your opinion? There's something wrong with it that most yeah with a lot of everybody Well, how did everybody conclude the whole like black widow has problems? Certainly in the plot armor that then you'd be like there's still everyone subjected He's like well, so everyone is highlighting it was hard for them to stay invested if the character can't take damage I would go even further. I would say that you could make a lot of objective assessments of the plot armor Oh, yeah what what i'm suggesting is that like everybody has a Like a unified understanding of exactly what is happening there and where the issue lies rather than going You're gonna have to explain it to me because it's so subjective that I don't really understand Like what is it that's you're having trouble? It's like no, I know what you mean.  Most people will just go. Yeah. Yeah It's gonna be dark gray probably an annoying kind of rain where maybe it's like windy and road Just going into your face. It's like sweetie and windy and you can't really do anything and it's the bad visibility on the roads and it's just Yeah, nobody I don't know how many people ever say it's miserable outside the sun is shining Yeah, or it's like the weather was so shitty because it was raining and then some people be like, but I like the rain It's like oh, well, well, I like the rain. I love the rain in fairness to clarify That's why I went to the example. I often like rain when I'm inside and I can yes As someone who has spent many many many many many many many nights camping outside The ones where it's raining or not rain is shit.  What's not to like? Oh, we we had a name for those in a search and rescue whenever it was raining And your tent wasn't all the way waterproof, which didn't happen much But every once in a while it happened, you know And you would have the water get into your tent and it would pool to the lowest place That was lake fletcher Dude, I had I had my Tent flood when I was in the middle of the desert in Kuwait. I'm not even kidding Man, how many days does it rain in Kuwait? It like for like two weeks out of the entire year We just happened to be there in the rainy season And you know people when you look at the desert when you when you think of the desert people think of like these big sand dunes And rolling hills kind of thing, right? No, no, no most of the desert is just like really hard packed It's like almost concrete. Yeah, it's just the water does rocky Yeah, and the water just sits on top of it So here I am in in the middle of the desert And it starts pouring rain for like days and days and days And of course the place where we had set up our camp was like in the small little valley so The entire camp in the middle of the desert was flooded my tent was Flooded up to like the three-foot mark and like everybody had to keep every morning when you would wake up You have to move your cot a couple feet to the left so that it was no longer in the water So irritating. Oh, yeah, so that's about snow robot snow. I'd much rather camp in the snow easily Yeah, snow camping is is a totally different skill in the amazon I feel bad for my parents because when I was very young every time we went camping I would say god, I just hope it rains so bad. I love the rain And it always ended up raining and we'd had to go home early so So wasn't molly you underestimate how miserable 100 degrees fahrenheit is with 100 humidity.  So first off i'm from arkansas We have 100 degree fahrenheit days where it feels like 100 degree humidity We it is lush around here and it is very it is a that's is a that's what sounds that sounds like hell I recognize it is oppressive. There are extremes for temperature thumbs up It's always interesting to me because the pov that I have living in this place Where it gets really hot and doesn't rain that much. It's like, I don't know like I like rain It's just it's it reminds me of life The life I've been to places that are super super hot, but it's also very arid as well And there's just no humidity in the air And it's a lot more bearable. It's a lot. Well, I've been to the arizona Oh, it absolutely it is If you If yeah, if if you compare the heat the same if you take 100 degrees In the arizona desert, right where there's this dry as a bone And 100 degrees in arkansas where you have a lot of humidity in the air I'll take the desert any day Yeah, especially if you're not used to the humidity in the air like when I go out wet to the desert I have to like my my nose and everything will get really really dry. I I put Um, I put Vaseline inside my nostrils so that it doesn't dry out and just kind of like hurt Man, I don't think I've ever done that in my life to Well, yeah, it's it because where if you live around here your whole life You're just not used to that lack of moisture in the air I mean, there's definitely elements of that like I remember for me distinctly it was when I went to the ucan It's like a heat wave 29 degrees. It's like ha feel like Like I'm playing on cheat, you know, like all cheats on mode when I was there It's 27 degrees in Toronto right now, but the humidity makes it unbearable to be outside for even like two minutes I mean, it's 27 degrees. It's like that's that's like that's just a Just a noble experience in hospitals. Yes. So here's the thing Vaseline petroleum We just call it Vaseline. It's like calling tissue tissues plain x's So Why people call it Kleenex to be honest with you because the branch because the brand is no popular It's like google or xero you call it piece of bandages band-aids Yeah, we yeah, we will generally call. Yeah, the little sticky bandages.  We call them plasters. I can't tell you why I only know the term band-aids for them. I don't know another one That's the thing. It's like if you say anything else like bandage, you're about to just encompass all kinds of things But if you say band-aid, it's it's super specific Yeah, because you can have gauze bandages and gunshot sort of gauzes and things like that Yeah, I think adhesive strip bandage is the technical term for it But even on like I'm an army medic and our ad rep so like our request for supplies Even on our official documentation. It says band-aids and they are not band-aid brands Yeah, it's just become it's just it's become so common and they're specific for kind of what they are It's just sort of taken over the language like when when you google something. No one says I'm going to bing something And you're like He ranks You know the first use of I'm gonna google x uh of old time in media was Oh, oh, oh wait. Let me think. Can you can you give me a year range? Can you help me out 2002 around that? I was about to say early I know this one What would it what was that voice? I don't Know How was that sinister that was like hey Spoiling it don't look at chat, right? Oh, okay. I wasn't looking at it, but okay. Um 2000 ish early 2000s range the first time to go. Was it a movie or a show? Am I do you think that's telling you too much or do you think that's fair? um It was let me keep thinking Let's see early You've got mail That's a fake gas, but no I think people were still using like a oh, yeah, like a oh, yeah, I think You've got mail People were using yahoo back when that movie came out. I'm sure people were still using yahoo for a while It's just it's one of the things is just the hung around for ages um Let's see um Well, I think it's a fair guess. Is it buffy? I have suspicious eyes the chat was saying but I love so I didn't want to cheat Well, no, you talk about buffy all the time So I wonder maybe that I use to be honest with you rags. I talk about a lot of things a lot of time Yeah I didn't wait someone confirm it was a tv show Oh You brought it up mama talks about buffy a lot, and he knows it really And it was kind of around that time. Well, I think it's a totally fair guess. Was I right? I think you already knew I was thinking really hard There were many seasons of buffy you've watched it a lot that seems like a fact that you would know about Do you know how many things satisfy those criteria? I have watched buffy several times totally fair Hmm Are you upset that I guess you know what you know what I've been watching a lot of jcs and rags seems quite angry Which indicates that he's telling the truth That's see that's that's one of those things you learned and like useless because they could do if they knew that that they would do it That's now now remember. I didn't know maybe maybe I am like peak jcs And you were just a little virgin jcs I've seen more of it than you have I didn't buffy googly All I was gonna I've seen more jcs stuff than you have free so I know you have you haven't seen as much of that content as I have Okay, I introduce you to the other channel. You haven't you haven't binged it yet I That I was able to guess it you should be Oh, yeah, it may it I honestly thought you were gonna guess it because of the way that you were you were asking the questions I was like, uh, he's he's probably got it already and he's just trying to make a reasonable way to get there That was my suspicion I was legitimately because I'm not that familiar with stuff in the early 2000s so it would have helped a lot if I could distinguish between shows and Like maybe that would help me as I sift in my mind through imagery of shows from that era because maybe I would have gone like I think my other guess would have been the x-files. Well, again, sorry, did someone tell you it was from a show No, why are you Because it sounds like you you confirmed it was a show What had to be either a movie or a show, so yeah, yeah, that's one or the other Yeah, that's There's a lot of movies like There's a lot of shows. Yeah, I mean I I it just seemed like reason How am I losing this here knocking out all of movies? That's a lot Why is that being ignored? Based on some punches all of movies Like so the problem well the problem as I see it is it seems like if rags guessed it right He was always gonna get his reaction No, honestly, no, um, I I wouldn't have expected it that quickly and the way that he asked the questions gave me the impression That he was just trying to connect the dots the most logical way Knowing that it would come across as weird if he simply guessed Buffy Well, I was I was trying to That's why when you ask if it was a show or not I was Well, I guess if we assumed if we're going with the idea that I knew beforehand, it wouldn't have mattered, but I I think it was a decent guess and I I mean I don't know what to say Rags as you stayed on this show many times. I can't control what I believe I can help influence it. No, no, you well you influence it. Oh, yeah, is that his truth? Yeah, that's right It's my truth This thing will never will never be able to know the the the objective truth We can only assume from yeah, you know limited information we have all in tourism strikes again Yeah, so was the answer given it was and he was correct I I was I was correct with the Buffy thing However, I will say this when you have a show that runs for how many seasons like six or seven Seven then that's a whole lot more span of time that it can be referenced instead of a single movie So well, yeah, but there's there's just a bazillion movies, right? So that's Sure, but like one guess for one guess, you know, if I guess a show that covers, you know That covers more than a movie would cover I've been looking into Because so like so if you asked what season I would have no clue. I'd guess and say like two Well, god, is it trying to do the math on what 2002? I was about to say I thought you would have been able to figure it out because you'd know you would have known Where uh, it started in 97. So 2005, I guess one with glory. I just know it was around that time I didn't know the exact years. I was just going by early 2000s and Buffy seems like a show from the early 2000s Well, this is a 90s show in in the I think the majority of Buffy was made in it. It was 97 98 99 2000 2001 2002 And three so majority no Yes, no angel season five was made in 2003 No, Buffy season seven concluded in 2003 meaning it was made in 2002 Oh, okay, right Well, it made partly in 2003 as well. Well, I haven't checked the specific dates for the crossover, but 2000 would count as this would count as the 2000 so be to that 1997 89 versus 2000 2001 2002 It's equal at that point. Well, no. So my impression was 97 98 99 2000 2001 2002 Yeah, so that's equal. No, not more one way or the other Wait, is that they couldn't they couldn't be equal because they're seven seasons. So what am I missing here? so what So there were two seasons in 97 Two seasons in 1997. Oh, I guess one of the because the first season would have been made in 96 then technically um I think it might have been because it started at the beginning of 97. Oh, there's where I was confused.  All right someone in the it was in season six seven Okay Someone in the chat just said that uh kang decided that regs would know That's true. No, they killed they killed kang kang doesn't affect us anymore That's right. We have free kang first time. Wait, wait. Are there other kangs or was that the only kang? No, there are many kangs now. There's an infinite number of them. What if the other kangs are controlling this one too? Well, that was my that was the huge problem. I took with Loki I was like, what if they just generate another one of those kangs immediately because the timeline is constantly in real time No, that's not what a segue But I thought that's what you were highlighting. Is it not? What are you saying? What if kang didn't die next week on what if? It's like in the Eternals trailer Honestly, I think they could have done the whole what if season if they just made it What if the other half of the Avengers were snapped away and that would have been really cool to see how would doctor strange And spider-man and all those people have figured out how to retrieve them without the help of jony or hulk or you know Well, it's what I was saying on friday night tights is that the the concept is really great But the way that they execute it and the ideas that they've put forward have been so mangled And just crapified. There are only two ideas so far. What if Peggy was captain america and what if tishala was star lord? No, I think it's more than that because you it's not just those two things Especially with a second episode Virtually everything is different about everybody. There's nothing to latch on to What if nebula was never tortured by thanos because that seems to be happening What if thanos didn't snap?   Yeah, that was the thing for me plaster I immediately go to cast So maybe it's just one of those things where so we I would imagine that we had the style of band-aids that we have now After we had plaster casts so They just sort of Overlapped And you and the name just stuck for both of them the use of plaster for this type of bandage in britain is an Illusion to the traditional use of sticky pastes to ensure the bandage stayed in place Oh Yeah, I mean that's what a plaster cast kind of is it's how you apply it That yeah, so I guess they just kept calling them that because they had similar sort of functions and People just called them that and it stuck. It's like the conite thing Plaster is the word everybody uses that nobody says band-aid in scotland Well, it's all of britain as far as I know we all say plaster and I only today found out why On the first time I've ever heard the term I mean But the term plaster in reference to what we would call a band-aid Yeah, in norway as well neat Do you do the what and like I said before the the kleenex thing you guys what do you call them's tissues? Because it's it's kind of half and half here with that But a lot of people will say grab me a kleenex regardless of what the brand actually is Because kleenex is such a you know a popular brand Yeah, well that and it's all like when you say kleenex, you know exactly what it's for I think everyone will know what you're talking about if you say tissue also.  Yes, I need you to get me some tissue paper from out from a butt Exactly.  But when you say kleenex, it's specifically for the nose and they don't bring you something rough We say we say tissues for the nose tissue paper is for the butt um Something about tissue toilet toilet paper Yeah We use toilet paper a lot to tissue papers also. Yeah tp. I guess tp either way Sorry, I guess that's the thing is I have never in my life heard anybody describe toilet paper as tissue paper Yeah, that's a first for me too I feel like that's not new news to me. We don't do it yet But I'm pretty sure that is something I've heard of it already like possibly because I talked to rags What are you speaking the shit? We're still watching rags a lot What's that? What's that?  Oh, yeah It wouldn't we wouldn't we haven't technically began the anniversary stream until we finished the gym video. That's what makes it official We've got to finish the gym video and then it's officially an anniversary stream In time letting you know that the game has started. There is also text which players can read if they can read He's accidentally You know what do you remember the conversation that I've talked about before I had with uh, I hate everything And he was like you can't you can't say objectively that anything is a bad thing And then I said, okay, let's start with an easy one and it worked straight away. I was like suicide squad Black text on a black background.  Yeah, that counts.  Okay Uh, he folded like a cheap tissue paper.  It's like that's probably worth mentioning Language that doesn't exist if it's just random symbols.  I know nothing makes sense.  How can I buy it if I like it? I don't know if I like it or not Yeah, that's why I'm here Tell you what helps you figure it out is knowing more about it information in accurate descriptions Yeah, if your whole video is a joke and it's not funny like That's just that's not good And he chose this out of all of the films that he has on his channel He chose this one to quote unquote one worthy of rain master Yeah, as if it's supposed to represent a point well at all it doesn't So hold on I'm kind of foggy on the remastering element of this Is he seriously remastering an old fucking youtube video? Is that what I can explain? So they were all a part of a scapist. It's a different channel He's just moving them over whenever he has a time where he doesn't make his own video for the year It's not a remaster. It's just re uploads. That's it Remaster sounds cooler so way cooler. Yeah So cringe remastering youtube videos Remastering Hey, I've considered it for a new generation the older TLJ ones I I thought about it at one point because the visuals on them was so different the way I do it now But then again from cringe I actually I kind of did with my um republic commando review because it was the first video that I made for geeks and gamers and Josiah uploaded it re uploaded it with the geeks and gamers logo But re uploaded at 30 frames a second and that always drew me up the wall He did the exact same thing with my force unleashed one. So when they announced the re-release of republic commando I talked germany into letting me just like re upload it with a new intro and have it actually be at 60 and so You changed the content of the video Well, I mean I did add a new intro and basically said hey this game is being re released on ps4 and switch next week And uh, yeah, I made a review of the pc version like a year ago or two years ago whatever it was And um, it looked like crap when they uploaded it. So here's a version that looks good I mean that's fair like that that would count as a remaster I'd assume because you want things to look better in the future Some people are saying that it's probably on purpose to make fun of remasters, but I'm just like I'm so confused I don't think remasters should be made some of like there's value and remaster in certain games Most of them come out like they've improved like a lot.  They've actually somehow made it worse, but that's what we usually end up saying somehow. They made the remaster worse not Oh, that's part of the course Can you imagine uploading a director's cut of your youtube video? Yeah, that'll be cool an objective review That's too. That would be a fun idea though to take an old video and not not just remaster it but remake it I'm doing like I will like I'll I should do that. Just take an old video. I covered years ago And then just essentially remake a response to that just to see how different they are maybe even style and all that Calling the video a uh a remaster instead of a re-upload sounds a lot like calling your video a critique instead of a review I do that All are confirmed double cringe. Wow Could you technically argue that a review is purely subjective, but a critique is inherently objective the difference for my ones is is the tone usually in a critique I'm trying to be as straightforward as possible. I'm not I'm not doing it for like like in the rage videos and praise videos I'm trying to like generate a very specific kind of experience or whatever in the critique ones I'm trying to talk to you as if you're in the room with me about storytelling.  I'm trying to make sure I get it, right I think I critique this to be based on subjectivity. So I don't know if that's always true That's good. Yeah, those words can refer to a lot of things that imagine right I think they might just be bad because as well because when people think of review They think of like the IGN five minutes don't say a lot Or like the newspaper column one where they just say a bunch of vague things about a film without really going into much detail at all There's a little something for everyone. A lot of IGN videos aren't too far off from Jim's video Also, dude, right what? Little something for everyone. Oh ah well, it's like going on Rant Tomatoes and reading the reviews that are like one sentence. That's just adjectives that could basically be applied to any movie It's like that Those are like the summaries, but yeah, like the they're definitely it is There is that issue of like the newspaper one where it's so short that it doesn't tell me anything And it's like what are we what are we doing here?  You can return it to normal speed to see how he Wrapped this all up in a nice little bow. I'm excited now. This is gonna be really interesting Without republican well, wasn't that fun? What what the implication that republicans want reviews like that? I suppose Why would you that's that's that doesn't look good for your side? It's like lol republicans always looking for the information you're like what Why'd you give it to them policy dictated on emotions? What was that? It was luminal subluminal and superluminal from the simpsons That was superluminal Shout out republican and someone I came in late so I didn't see what this man looks like before but this is like alternate universe For not having an all original gym position up on a monday, you know me I always like to have fresh content here as and when as possible But this week has just been a thing We've got more content coming we've got internet content on but imagine you've completed Your the thing at like four and a half minutes. You're like there's more on the way Do not worry it to me. I'm like you haven't done the intro yet This looks like he didn't color grade the footage That's very washed out. Yeah From the webcam he shouted on Why boys when we advertise that probably not but if you do we've got that coming and We're still working on another season of commentocracy. Some of you will remember that so that's good We do have stuff coming do excuse. All right. Well, there's no point in finishing this thing. I guess Yeah, this is no completely pointless this entire video could be summed up in 15 seconds. We did it Just it's something like uh music in the background intentional. I think yeah, that's usually the music in the background Yeah Just like a sort of semi meta thing here. This is the problem with having a rigid schedule as a youtuber is that You have to have a video up on monday.  So you're gonna well, we got to do something What are we gonna do better grab this old video that sucks? And we're gonna throw, you know a minute on the front end and a minute on the Back end and turn it into a five minute video and and just shoot it out there into the world, you know Boy Just just no You don't even think the minute on the back end. I don't think it's new I think he's talking about all the stuff that they'll have coming up on the escapist because he now wears like a long wig Yeah, that's no This was from a while ago in fairness. So yeah, but um, yeah, it's it's not remotely insightful Like but you could be you could make your position very clear and interesting on this but Like you did that so nice, I guess Hmm. Um, this was probably easier to do though Yeah, um, I just find that the discourse on the whole like being objective is impossible versus it's not even jim broke a sweat making this video Shocking I find the videos like this just make the discourse way worse because everyone's just like yeah Objectivity stupid trying to figure things out based on standards that relate to bubble is stoop.  You're like, okay I don't have standards.  Yeah, I'm better than you I don't have stint. What? So the full hog Pog on the bottom. Yeah, the bottom left of his It's a literal Pog. It's a milk Pog. Yeah. Yeah, Pog's back in the 90s. Yeah That's that's another thing. He does Boglins and Pogs Poglins and we're not and we're not talking about the mangled English language We're talking about the actual product Pogs Pogheim. It's not a poggers, man You prefer to be called poggers Pogger in Pog I suppose I can almost guarantee that this man is the leader of his local satanic temple chapter Look at those gloves So who knows how many videos we will cover across the the full 24 hours But what I'm going to try and do is sneak the meme videos in between them as a different style We'll see how it goes But the first ones we'll probably try and watch in this stream at least is the the ones that people would have seen in the Intro there'd be a couple people here now who wouldn't have seen them and the people who made them can see what We have to say about them. I guess I'm gonna I'm gonna play the I guess play them in order The first one was called EFAP the long and hard of it part two So by stout stag Hey, you on your way to where to where? This is the previous episode which Yep, yeah, just in case it was confused this is being seen in the from the spider oracle. Yes, that's right. There's a story to They are a planet Mars. They are a planet mark.   Is that luke's I saw some people say it was probably buffy.  Yeah, thanks.  I don't know. I just know that um You know the force. I didn't even know that I I'm kind of dumbstruck. Wait Are you on the idiot's trail? Yeah, you're in Greece. Yeah I'm on a pilgrimage. How wonderful you're in Greece. Yeah.  What What what what?  That I don't think was me Fair enough.  I have to keep going That's cool.  I don't know. Is there a way to I don't know man I guess he's killing all sentient life and easy solution. No Well, let's see The story and the legend of the cosmic chicken is always moving. So like I'm I'm always here for you mauler whenever you need me through thicker thin day or night winter summer spring fall Autumn everything in between and even seasons that aren't on that list but exist Well, thank you very much. Um, I will go to the place excellent All right. Yeah. Um, I mean, all right. See you later to the loo. Yeah, man All right, there's gonna be a way that I can use my jetpack of love to get down Like I don't I mean, it's the force. I don't know. I can pro I can probably just I could probably fly Hey There we go fate has a way of stuff happening. I just have to get perfect timing. All right.   Not gonna lie. It is pretty pretty awful But let's stop for one second here And think about it. I've got provisions I've got um, a little little cheese stringy cheese thing I'll keep that in my pocket for later. Also, um, what if maybe Um, I know who this is Oh, who are you sony? I'm the sheriff Hello, I'm rags. People call me The dawn yeah, I know all about the greatness that is the dawn kind of like a smile Kind of intense. Oh, I'm I'm I'm I just don't even Yes, I will have dinner with you. Oh, yeah, that is absolutely. Yeah, let's make it happen. Now we're talking So let's um, I need actually to head out. Uh, if I have a podcast It's pretty it's a pretty great, but uh, I'll I'll be gone for a while. So I got something before Absolutely Well, uh, I guess we'll catch you next time and around and in between and all that stuff So, uh, yeah, how about a smile for me, huh? You know what?  Oh, no, I like how the the signs are also in greek. He remembered I was in greek so the signs have greek on them Weekend warrior on the wall. Oh, no, I remember the drawing Monster He looks just as disgusting as he does in real life. It's uncanny And his appearance is always so unsettling. Yeah, it's like an actual photograph Drilling My god, what a cliffhanger. Yeah. Oh my goodness.   It like transcends being a meme for just a moment there at the beginning I was like did Mahler and regs record this because yeah I couldn't tell if this was like something that you guys had scripted or if it was just ripped from from efaps Yeah, I mean eventually I could figure it out.  It's called efap the long and hard of it. This is the second part We covered the first part. I don't know when but um, yeah, I really love this little ongoing stories making and Really neat all the production elements in it Great sound design not just the ambience, but when Mahler's coming down on the parachute that pans from left to right A lot of a lot of attention to detail. I like that I figure it probably makes sense actually to just play the three Intros at this point instead of like breaking them up just because these are the intro videos It makes the most sense to me this one Is uh, actually like a we had if you remember the efap 100 intro is amazing from A guy array. I think that's how that's said Um, this one's called 150 episodes of efap, but we tried pretending. It's what we wanted Great little reference. That's a great line They're critiques are poor That's all wet bread Hey Hello Hey, it's me. Wow the ego on this person. Yeah, I know, right? Very good. Quite the beat I am curious if that is a holy custom music because it was a bop. I think it is. Um I'm pretty sure it is there were uh, there were credits later on and there were like three people including one was a composer Super super bop. Well, that's the other so music info track clocks bones NCS release provided by no copyright sound. So it's I got you. It's the next one. Yeah, because in the intro they played one after the other.  It's such a like a hype generator those intros They're legit impressive. Mm-hmm. Got me tapping my toe as well. Yeah, man. Um And then we have uh the third one And uh, the third one is that is that the name is just Well, it's cold Also, um, I imagine for the people who've made these videos are probably disappointed to see that watch together Is not playing them in the highest of quality and unfortunately I can't do anything about that.  Yeah, we hate watch together. Also. Thanks. Watch together for supplying We can't do this without you. Please don't be me. Please don't die Please don't bully. Yeah, so this is called a hundred EFAT 150 anniversary.  Oh Yeah, maybe It looks like the Van Helsing castle Laura's coat looks amazing Dude, I reckon all four of them. I love bell's little slippers Yeah It all looks so good. I meant the the wind effect. I think it looks really great Yeah, Fringy's got his legs moving back and forth I feel so cozy. Yeah Yeah, I adore that one It's really good. It's hard not to adore that one. This is a funny thing. The tone for all three of them is very different Yeah That one is like legitimately emotional though.  I need to pay them to make like a an animated icon Yeah That would be if I could get something like that for us that match And because when you talk your your gift will play when you're when it's picking up sound That would be really cool to see to make one with your mouth moving Oh, that's true.  I mean The face Like how did I get up here?  That's great Yeah, it's a really really evocative image ever It's just again cozy is probably the best way for it away even though they're at the top of like this this really Narrow thing it's like Point I can just pay them in exposure. That's true. That's true Yeah, there you go easy I need that I can't pay with them with money. I need that It's just it just has a really nice pool with a separate hot tub section Muller and Fringy's coats have like bends in the sleeves and then metals is just It's a fun contrast. Yeah, you look like you you look like a character on Sesame Street I like this idea of as well taking his nose away because he doesn't typically obviously have one in the icon the beer just between the eyes like I really like the uh, the angular kind of art style that Scott here Just uh, it's it's just a really it's it's it's really great. It's just really great. It's sharp You've done such a great job They've done such a great job. Really good It's also kind of cute the metal seems like he's the only one who's aware of the camera Yes He puts the meta in metal. Yes Yeah Beautiful It's so much in the background. There's like a there's like a cloudy cosmic chicken to the right. Yeah. Oh, yeah There's a lot of details on that moon there like a lot of a lot of neat little references That's the Isle of Man legs. Yeah um, so the The moon or the the moon is it's got like little fans and stuff for computers. It's got the Lucasfilm logo there on it Yep, I have to you see I have to open it up individually in the zoom in I think the implication is that they're ready for the fight against the big corporate overlord machine against what Star Wars has become Um, we're finally I've got someone to bring in now. So I'm gonna have to get rid of someone How terrifying Um, I suppose it makes sense to go by whoever was here first will leave but before asking that Is there anyone who almost needs to go anyway? Like that would be the More preferable if there are no takers Which I'm willing to get going just because I'm happy to be on here to begin with so I do not mind stepping aside to let someone else on Um, well very well 24 hours to sticker Yeah, totally take you back anyway later Have possibly I am a cyborg with nowhere to go Oh no, um, well, you know, thank you for um for joining us for the what was that the two hours ish Um, you'll be here for another 20 probably three because of the way the brakes work So, um, perhaps we'll see you again. Who knows? Sounds good. Thank you very much. And yeah, I guess if anyone doesn't know who I am and I was wondering I saw a couple people being like, hey, who's a terminator tim pool and I'm like, uh Oh my goodness.  The last of us part two is not It's interesting because I still haven't gotten around a days gone But I was told like after like a 10 hour mark it gets like super great So I I was really surprised by how much I liked it and I guess the main point of my thesis is that it It's a video game and like last of us kind of isn't and um, yeah I talk about that for 40 minutes and yeah, it's on steam now. It was a playstation exclusive But uh, they ported it to steam. I think about two months ago now. It's been a little while I've been working on the script for some time, but yeah, it's a 40 minute video I'm pretty proud of it and oh, well, I do do still work with geeks and gamers. I'm starting to put my Oh, yeah, I I also do work for geeks and gamers But um, I'm trying to kind of get my own channel going a little bit more And this is going to be the first big like review that that I'm doing for it So yeah, if anyone wants to check it out youtube.com slash mark the cyborg and um, yeah, happy happy 150 everybody And uh rags them all or your new videos are both awesome, too. Thank you very much Um, yeah, it's all right. Good to have you and we'll see you around sir Hey, take it easy everybody. Yeah, we'll see you later man. Have a good one Mm-hmm I uh see just messaged me and said I should point out that the moon isn't literally the corporate sphere Hey See Terminator Tim pool I can't stop seeing it now, right? Like it's clearly that Mr. Ads from heal vs. Babyface. Loser. How do you do? Wow? We haven't seen you in ages. No, I know it's it's been so long Who is this? I don't remember help. Hey, you should be more excited. That's your wrestling friend right there You could talk. Yeah, things rest right. Yeah, didn't wrestling things happen yesterday of interest Oh Big things I even did a video for sports wars yesterday after I finished Friday night tights I was up till seven o'clock in the morning. Oh my god I was I was I was sober after that happened. Oh man. Look at that chat chat.   That's it So for those who don't know the suicide squad came out and a lot of people had a lot of opinions And apparently I like it. She had one that was quite Disagreeable. I've not even seen the video. I didn't actually check this one. I've just seen that people have pissed at it I was like, huh, what does she do? What does she say? Oh, um, did you are you trying to get us cancelled again moller? It is this is a female We are covering a female. So I am you know, gotta be careful everyone I females those people But the thing is I can't really introduce her as a creator. So she's like like as what what's what's the what? What does she do? What is her thing? Do you know? I I would call her a pop culture Commentator. All right, I would call her a retard. Oh People already find out the chat I'm German already. I don't have many points left I do think he ended up on that big mountain nearly falling off, you know, this is punishment It's funny It's not as a way this is like a cry for help. Yeah, she she reviews stuff and things and she reviewed this and and from what I gather It's mostly liked the suicide squad.  Is she objective or subjective? Guess we'll find out very very important. Yeah We shall discover exactly what she has this because this is the thing that's going to be a great little adventure I don't know what's going to happen Nobody on the face of the earth tried harder to like this movie. I think we should probably comment on these this format It's a oh, I need the link. Where's the uh, oh, sorry.  Jesus There you go new you kid Thank you So I'm coming into the womb. She's got the the square that's not quite in the top, right? It's Snapped to the to the right side, but not the top then the poster and then I had to grab a beverage. So this looks like one of those websites from 1990 Like a geosities Yeah, yeah, they got that they got that menu on the left. What's pretty blonde person looks like Harley Quinn. Come on It looks like one of my thumbnails, you know The first suicide squad when she was still a doctor or whatever She had kind of big glasses and the hair was down So she looks a little like Harley Quinn. Maybe she will role play her in this video I think that might be what's going on By the way, if you haven't noticed already the format is she's sort of giving you her topics on the on the left There you go. Let's not fight for media mainstream audiences social media. She's got Didn't care for peacemaker kingshark Oh, it's all right down Let's just ignore whatever this says. So we have clearly separated spaces, but they're not separated really Like we have like this black bar, but it goes like to the over to the right to the middle one audiences Goes out of it. Then on the bottom. It was in all caps on the bottom Yes On the bottom right the chapter starts in the picture of the suicide squad. Like if you have like Clearly there's a lot of stuff in this dosage over these borders It's very haphazard from a design from a design standpoint. It's it's really bizarre and something that's bugging me um You know how like when you try to do listen stuff You all right. All right. What's what's what's the observation? No, no, you said something was bothering you about this and I was It I thought I didn't have any a drink in my mouth or else I would have Oh, I would be wiping stuff off You guys can relate but like whenever I'm writing something down in word and it's like listed like this I like to use dot points for like the first one and then I do indents with like the the dash for the next one To make yeah to make it clear that it's like oh this is like under this umbrella All that we have here are indents and it's frustrating me Ashes a lot.  Awesome. I'm just I guess I'm not understanding these colors We've got text in white text in light blue and then text in red next to a poster that's mostly light blue All of the text shadow too All of yeah Oh every single. Yeah, exactly every single one Yeah I don't I really this is a bizarre image It just seems a little haphazard to me. She she shoved stuff on screen and tried to make it worse It's like, why don't you get like an actual she's been doing this for ages, right? We just got a template just get a template that you can reuse for uh for different videos If this is like the format of the reviews then yeah template.  Nobody does that and it's terrible Yep, I'm so glad you're taking a piss out of this because I was looking at maybe putting one in my video the other day They're not all made the same.  Oh, wow. So if someone could clip that for me They could do that on youtube now post it discord or something because I would like to hear that Well rags if you pull up the stream just a left arrow like 10 times you probably have it Um, I love how the paused image here just like implies she's subscribed to herself You know I'm subscribed are you in a way we're all subscribed to ourselves That's right. No, I'm really okay with the graphics except for when they're just so blatantly Bought or downloaded Just out of coherence with the rest of the video right it doesn't fit the style at all like come on now really Hey, look, you need the poster taking up 60 of the frame just in case you forget. We're fucking So I listened to the noise not at all what I would have imagined it sound like That is bizarre Yeah, but yeah, this this image is just it's just a failure of design It's some Listing to anything million I imagine most people listen to these That's probably higher one of the people that made the meme videos and maybe they can get something better for How do you have a million subs and this is acceptable? I would be embarrassed They all look like this I think that this channel probably falls into the same category as chris stuckman I think in terms of like the appeal you've been doing it for ages. Yeah They are a level woman talking about movies like what's the appeal You can check and see when they first made their account on the channel I think it's the it's like the you've done it for a long time and you do the thing where you like talk about movies But in five to ten minutes in very easily digestible just the broad summary You don't say a lot kind of like again like the ign thing You just all right You talk about movies and people subscribe and then they'll always get something on like every single movie that comes out and it's never particularly like in depth And I'm not sure that you would be anybody's favorites But like there's a utility I guess If you are someone's favorite that says more about them if anything else Oh, thank you for trying to say that no one's passionate about this because It's it's wide appeal. But yeah, she nobody's she's nobody's favorite. Yeah The only way this could get lower quality is if it was autoplayed during hassan stream while he's eating lunch I knew this video is missing something Empty chair because he's gone off to make his nuggies Grace Randall's just playing in the background We talked about um a moment ago how she must have you know, how did she get 932 000 subscribers? Well She joined november 3rd 2008 Oh boy. Yeah, I think that is it. You've just explained it get get in early Well, that's helpful advice now build a time machine and go back to tell the time machine Get in early make lazy content, but for a long time But consistently lazy for a long time I've actually watched some uh videos about um like game of thrones specifically the books and some other fantasy stuff And the videos themselves are meant to be more kind of like a podcast And they do have this kind of text and it's very low quality it's like someone who's just kind of slapped the stuff on the screen because To to have something other than just like you know a black background And there are more videos that you would kind of like listen to like uh as you would a podcast But with this like she obviously like she has her webcam. So she wants people To see this garbage And I don't know why She's also one of those youtubers who like doesn't have a dedicated microphone, right? They they just take the audio from whatever their laptop speakers. That is not okay. I'm sorry That's not okay.   I mean There's no excuse Yeah, I think that's why it hurt my ears the very second the video started up because it must be that laptop speaker It was just oh How can you there's that's There's something about her cadence when she speaks that just makes me so we'll get to that So I was gonna say I feel like just by looking at her. I know exactly how she sounds It's like, you know those videos of the the ai's people make that sound like humans I'm convinced she's one of them. She's the closest to a real human. Yeah Well, google has her down as a an american film critic. Ah That's not google And I just I just did a little check to see you know, how healthy the channel is comparative I I compared her to my channel because i'm an ego test Uh, and I have 280 000 subscribers. She has 932 She has got 6 000 more subscribers this year than I have Okay, but when did you start youtube? 2012 as a gaming channel I bet you get more views per video than she does on it. Probably. Yeah, I would imagine Yeah, maybe there's an interesting like sub count to view count ratio going on there Yeah, I actually um, I had a Conversation with uh, someone who was starting up a youtube channel and whatnot and I was Telling them like people get hung up on the subscriber number way too much because you got channels I like oh, what was it? Um uh It's the hbo's channel. I think or something they have like millions and millions of uh subscribers And some of their videos are getting like 2000 views, which is just bizarre Yeah, and uh, what what's uh, what's the number one subscribe? What was that like t-series? Yeah Do we even really need to it's like come on Yeah, I agree about the analytics and these subscribers with this content I'm just gonna stick a png of the cover of the film and talk about it on a black screen in the future Is another weird thing. I just looked at her videos and just went from sort by oldest first Like 12 years ago first video she had like green screen was standing in front of it things in the background Oh Well, now she's made it she was better before wow Now she just pushes out a bunch of you know, just a bunch of stuff Yeah, I'm just I'm scrolling for the new old ones, but they're all in this format YouTube regression Why didn't you take that? But you have famous you get lazy It's weird when you look at moller and myself and all kinds of other people You see how it it changes a lot over time there's this big increase in The work and effort that goes into like the visuals and the audio and everything and with some people It's the opposite because once they get to that point where they're just where they can just coast She's outside. She's outside interviewing people as well. It's genuinely way better Look at her first video like a lot of work. Look at the editing in it. It's there's images that are relevant to the things she's saying Yeah, I just picked through it. It's like moving in and out. It's like what's happening But yeah, it's it's but now that I'm big enough I don't have to worry about that anymore. I just I don't know success I don't worry. Was she was she part of an msn? And they were kind of fighting in the forum. Maybe. Yeah, that could be maybe I didn't even think about that maybe Um I mean she could have just realized that she doesn't have to do it right mystery. We haven't even started the video the mystery is just This is all I was going to say. So I'm afraid we have to we've got someone coming in So someone's gonna have to leave and according to the the way that At the entry. Well, so already. Wow, that was quick. Thanks guys That would be funny if you just came in like 100 times But for just a couple minutes every time We'll see you in two hours for another couple. Okay, so um, I'll see you in 10 minutes for another two minutes Assuming everybody would like to stay it's gonna have to be between m and blame All right, I'll see you all later. Oh I have to stay for 24 hours. I went shopping to get snacks and all kinds of stuff before this I got you're in for the long haul Stuff This is I had you both the same time. So now I can't be objective about it Oh, no Well, luckily because I got beer now I have beer bottle caps that I can use and I will flip it to decide who goes and who stays We will let blue moon decide very well.  We're gonna see what happens blue moon is up Which one was that I forgot what you said Oh, I gotta go. All right Like I said, we'll uh, we'll grab you. Don't worry. You'll get back Grimes this is like my 25th time being here I'm worried about it. I'll be back and you'll be back for 26 in a few hours. Anyway, so, right? Okay, guys. Have fun. Thanks for joining us. Bye. Bye. Bye. See you later, man Nice one.  Hey, I hope Jay doesn't have any commentary for the the full amount of the videos We've got to get into this at some point. Yeah Hey, what do you think about this image? It doesn't make your ears bleed and it's not even have sound I I feel like I can hear it. Yeah. Yeah, I know.  There's your watch together It's more low quality static for me Um old guy, so the audience kind of peek immediately It sounds like um everywhere at the end of time, but the parts you skip What? That's fine. Don't worry about it carrying on Um, I'm going to go back to zero and we are going to listen to what is one of the most unpopular reviews of the suicide squad right now Let's find out why no boy. Nobody on the face of the earth tried harder to like this Just like what I thought I'm not shocked at all. We got one second further than before. Yeah Hey, this says six seconds. We did it You know, we talked about audio quality I think she needs to like get some sound boarding on her walls or something because it Like she's in an office. It looks like she's in an office. I was going to say is this where she lives or she like on the move Because she sees these things that are produced No, I think this is uh, this is a typical position that she stays in so I think this is either a home or Or her office. Yeah, so That's it. It looks cold. I I would hate it I think it'd be cool to live up somewhere like that Yeah, I think the view of the city would be pretty cool. Yeah I think it would be awesome The first principle of cinematography is that your eyes are drawn to the brightest part of the scene And I I just don't trust anyone as a film critic who lights like this where it's like Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make the background way blown out And just have dark eye bags all over my face. It's disgusting I mean, it seems to me that I feel like if you have a background like that, you should use it Yeah, well, there's there's lots of ways to expose your camera, right? Yeah That and you need you need a light on your face with that poster too. Yeah It's pretty distracting to have such a bright spot on the poster. It's like And and it's the center, you know, I don't know this we we keep going over this part We should listen to what she says that's probably gonna be the Why you would have a background A 1920 1080 image that goes across the whole thing if you're gonna if you're gonna insist on having it be a still image Oh, it doesn't matter.  I never know I never know who's met who and stuff So, um, I guess if if blame and add if you guys haven't met each other before you're sitting right next to each other in the call So there you go, you'll know I haven't met anybody really That's sad That's pretty lonely.  Well, I always I always seem to get the far left. I always You're you start with a you start with a Yeah, you're on the far left thought theaters the far right We like to have j in the center They're both the same. Let's be on my I don't want to uh far right I don't want to sidetrack the conversation too much Uh, you know some I always get asked like why why did I name my channel blame the controller?  We'll