Good morning traders and welcome to the live trading webinar today with Jay trader stocks trader We will go through lot some live trading activities in here You're gonna get insight from Joseph's setups Markets here and How he reads the order flow how he applies it to his trading how he uses book map And how he gains an edge. All right, so one of the greatest things with these webinars here about the live trading is also Watching the way that they're managing their trades and managing their money You might have all the great setups in the world, but you really knowing how to manage it is is something something different Okay, so anyway, you guys know who Jay trader is He does offer mentoring services. So I'll put this into the chat as we continue And I need to go through the disclosures and then I'm gonna jump right into the SNPE mini We'll look at that for about 10 minutes have some interesting things to show there and Then when Joseph comes in probably in about 10 or 15 minutes, I will turn it right over and get into some stocks Okay, so Just the first two disclosures here at the general disclosure and this is important all book map limited materials information and Presentations are for educational purposes only and should not be considered specific investment advice nor recommendations live trading is in simulation Demo paper trading mode and strictly for educational purposes live trading executed in simulation cannot Accurately represent realistic training performance risk disclosure training futures equities and digital currencies involves a substantial risk of loss And it's not suitable for all investors past performance I'm sorry an investor could potentially lose all or more than the initial investment risk capital is money That can be lost without jeopardizing one's financial security nor lifestyle only risk capital should be used for trading and only those with Sufficient risk capital should consider trading past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results okay, so let's jump right in and take a look at this chart here and maybe someone can Tell me immediately who's in control here? What do you guys think? Sellers exactly Alright, yep MC loco Alan others here In YouTube, so this is I mean you can see now. This is just classic We look for this all the time and this is the opening drive, right? so We typically see this kind of behavior right around 930 usually a Quick move to one direction and then the opposite drive the other direction But look at this. This is what's important and so important about market structure to understand Okay, so here We have market structure And here we have some stops we have some icebergs etc. It just kind of breaks above the structure Then we kind of retest back down here bounce back up And kind of retest the swing here not the not the high swing, but this previous swing Okay, there's trap traders up in here, and then they drive. They're driving it away From this whole area up here, right? Look at the profile here And this is just typical. This is what it takes to drive away from an area of Value that was created since 8 a.m. This morning. Okay, so you see the move up here The consolidation and then the move away from it So we stick with this move until we see something different Okay, something else in the order flow sellers are in control. They took control. Well, basically around right around here But we also look at the bottom of the range here Okay for retest now. We also look for Different areas for for price to come back up and retest I want to go over that in just a minute here And I'm gonna ask you guys some questions about that where we look for these retest to come to In the in the market structure however, I want to go over first the bigger picture so important and You know what we were looking at yesterday and in the follow-through So yesterday, we knew we get best best to look at on the hourly chart here We saw the high the strong move to the high side here and we knew that this was a strong move I mean just look at it and You know, it's dominating these candle these big green candles are dominating here And we're looking for continuation, but we're looking for a slowdown up in this area up here Okay, because this is where we we found sellers before and we found rejection in these areas here So the rest of the day it looks like it closed just above it here But if you look over on the daily chart look at where it dropped from Back on Monday April 11th here and that's where it opened up And dropped immediately That's kind of where we retested up here and we didn't spike above that So or the S&P didn't spike above that area here. So what you're looking at here Is sellers are still in it from this point on basically? Okay, if they're positioned up in here sellers, they're still in it and in in concept at least And we were looking for the spike above into these little areas in here and We noted the strong momentum We're looking for this move into this area here at spikes above it and now we're getting kind of a retest back down to it I'm looking to see if we can get down below that and retest back down to here Maybe here maybe all the way back down to here Okay, so this we're looking for strong rejection up here and it's already showing us it you know filled the gap immediately as you guys can see and We spiked up above it sellers are still in control. Let's see if they take control now That we'd be looking for these moves down to retest into some of these areas here Okay, so around for it 44 46 obviously 44 50 is Gonna be pretty important here on the hourly But that would be you know kind of the first area to take a look and then lower And then some of these other buying tails down here We'd be looking for a retest back into these areas here. Okay on the 15 minute chart here Let's look at back just at today You can see the gap fill and yeah, yeah, I really like it down here, so 44 36 or something like that in in this zone here 33 to 36 somewhere around there And looking for it see if we get continuation All right, so beautiful stuff. We're looking for that move higher. We're looking for the rejection It's happening now. We're looking to see if we can come back into the range and retest in some of these areas here Likely we're getting we're getting a little bit of a bounce here off the top of this range here As you can see in the swing But let's see if they can push it through now. That's what we're looking for in the order flow here All right, so now let's go to book map and Yeah, here we go. So sellers coming in looking for them to continue to push this Into our 50 level here 52 50 and so regarding the pullbacks Where's some good areas to look for pullbacks? What do we typically look for in pullbacks? Let's see in YouTube. You guys cannot see very well All right, I think it's on high definition here. Yeah, it's on 1080p Okay, 58 you guys are looking for 58 Yeah, I mean Yeah, 58 is not isn't is pretty good I mean it could pull back, you know, even up to here 62 the swings up in here and Then in this area here This one's a little more challenging. Where would you guys be looking for for a pullback in there? On this kind of strong drive to the downside 80 okay, yeah way up here Yeah, that's boy, I think that would be kind of a reversal at that point Yeah, I mean, I'm not really too sure on this one I mean like I do like the swings here, but then we start to look at maybe clusters and Little kind of areas of consolidation. So we zoom in a little bit here And this isn't bad in here 67 or even here 70 And then the you know sellers take control consolidation. They take control. They already pulled back here To 65 where it broke from and they continued. Okay, so Anyway, yeah, these little areas here This these little pockets these little areas of consolidation and and continuation here All right, so we're going to be looking for a potential pullback into those areas, too And you can still be bearish here on any of those moves. In fact We we also look for at a certain point We're gonna then they'll come in hand over fist. They always they almost always do Is we're looking for those mean reversion traders I trade it back to VWAP point of control, etc And we keep an eye out for them Anyway, it looks like Joseph is Joseph is here five minutes to start. Let's see. Okay So I'll wait until I hear his voice And you can see in the chat there He has a 203 take profit on Netflix from 254 in a short call. Wow Yikes, that's a big move All right, so there you go Alan you were asking about the Netflix stock there Which trading software is this oh Yeah, okay, you're answering a question. Yep. All right Yeah, not really seeing much still Yet, you know likely a moved back up to we're up at 60 but seeing some buyers here So maybe a little bit higher maybe 61 But you know like we covered yesterday take a look at this move here and look where that volume is Right. It's not strong and consistent. It's not not so bad in here It's just but it's kind of really here Right the buy volume the bulk of it We get sellers below this look for the move right back down to 52 So it's kind of testing these areas right now Okay, so we're just kind of reading the order flow in here And I like the the buy volume up here. So here we go So now if we get back up here, we should get the move back up to 61 pretty pretty good buy volume Let's see it a little bit higher here and then the move back to 61 liquidity here Okay, let's see if we get the order book to show us a little bit here Little bit not much. It's not really it's see how dark it is around these areas So we're looking for this move, but it's it's not high probability Okay, if we had the order book really aligned with us there on the bid here and the reaction was the The buyers then we're looking for the move You know, just it's a higher probability outcome. So what here's our move Okay, so there's there's 61 now question here. I have is like that's pretty good buy volume So this might be the mean reversion up to 66 here at this point okay, so You know a way to manage a consideration now. This is not a trade recommendation it's just you know, we go through these different scenarios and We look to understand the order flow here and have a bit of a bit of a change in heart now Because this is pretty strong. I think we can get our mean reversion guys to jump on board here And trade it back up into maybe 65 and now we're gonna get pullbacks too and Likely I should say at least And where do you guys think that the pullback might come if you're looking for it? It's kind of answer the price is answering that question for you right now Yeah, I like the top of the range here first 59 But yeah, I also like this cluster here And you know it could even come back down into kind of here And let's just Take off the Delta column here and yeah somewhere around in here. Yeah, I like it MC local But it's the first one is already pulled back and and we already see it's kind of bouncing back up So and they're pulling on the on the offer here at 62 a little bit more on the bid would be great And we should get the shot up into 64 and 65 and maybe VWAP 66 here But see how we had kind of a change in heart here. We're looking for Just just the move up into Well, we first started off and we talked about 58 that already had happened. So where the next one was at this kind of 60 61 area here and and it's pretty strong by volume. So now, you know First we're just looking for a pullback and then we want to see if or this move back here Bigger picture. It's a pullback But just to move back to into that area now. We're looking for the continuation here By volume looks good All right, so they're just testing this swing up here This was that next area where we're looking for but there's still a lot of buyers in here So still looking for this to maybe come up into the VWAP area and then that's around 66 Or something so let's see what looks like over here in the order flow try to match some things up here Not bad in that around the 67 area and liquidity filled in here So what yeah, let's say let's draw that line up See if we can get a pullback into that area All right, Joseph is having a coffee and getting ready Very important part of the process And I'm very envious of his coffee maker All right, let's see it. Let's see it guys. Let's see this These buyers try to try to pop it up in here I think this is a high probability trade this kind of mean reversion at some point, you know During the day after after these initial drives Traders just they're looking for it. They're they're antsy to do this move and we can look for it every day Yeah, I think We'll have to Converge on Everybody hey, good morning, Joseph. How are you? one second Cannot hear Bruce over here. You cannot hear me. All right Rose, can you hear me? Yes Yes, I can't hear just one second Some of you guys were in YouTube there. We're looking for the move to 64. You nailed it Matt Yeah, POC is a little bit. Well, POC kind of moved down The previous POC was up here around 77 So just shy of the VWAP that I have here and just shy of 65 it looks like 65 trade 17 contracts traded up at 65 How is it as we wait for Joseph here, I guess he's got some Good Martin traders. Yes, can you hear me? Yes, Bruce finally now. All right. All right. Excellent. Excellent. So Let's see. Are you sharing your screen in here? Yes, let me know if you can see it Yeah, yeah, great. All right. Okay. So let me pop it out and everyone should see it Oh, yeah, we're looking very forward to this Netflix trade that you took Well today was Really one of those days to remember and pretty proud of I mean, this is another trade of form Some of my inventory and we took a short tap here Covered partial the rest over here. So we took all unwind and I want to go over first What we saw at the gate So Netflix at earnings yesterday remember and I wrote over here a few no traders So we had Over here. This was the after hours. Okay. So we had a pop filled over here. So we went from something like 350 Back down to 250, you know, remember just like twitter. What happened at time seems very similar Now let's look at what happened here So in pre-market We were looking at the price section I'm gonna Zoom in over here. So we started seeing like this pop over here to the 254 255 Which was this level over here 254 255 you can see that we had some decent support I'm gonna Do like this I'm gonna change it one second So we had some decent support over here 253 and that they were over there Now it started to fade and then reject over here around eight o'clock Reject that again. So lower high again, lower high at the open This was the I would say beautiful pop-in feel that I like to trade And uh, maybe it was trading over here next to me. So we were looking for this 930 And why this bounce to the gate? Okay, so this is a pre-market low. It's 243 and 90 Why this bounce over here? Because a lot of traders are looking for the discount Okay, so they think wow, this is Netflix. I'm gonna buy Netflix on the dip Netflix can become a very good long over here But instead they're basically buying a falling knife So once once you have this bounce over here And it's not only that it's also from short who are covering at the gate, you know, they're afraid they're probably gonna go up You're looking instead too short. That's what we did in the room. So we are looking for this pop You can see over here that above we have some decent amount of resistance Now I want to put over here also the volume dots. So you can Look what happened Open big so they try over here to push above 248 to 49 Main hold on a number 250 And you can see over here. We started like to sell we started really like to dump So even you take a trade over here 246 to 47 your stop is really minimal around 250 And then we started to have like unwind and wine and wine and wine and wine And they were selling over here massive massive I mean we had from the open traders like 40 points down over here 40 points unwind my target is 203. I call that for a daily Daily reason which is a main support We started bouncing over here a little bit around 213 to this area 213 Bounce over here, but it's still done trending. So I'm not really looking to cover the whole position And this was a juice one beautiful Then I'm looking at some small caps this morning. I'm looking at tesla as well We are the trade on Llip Let's look also at tesla So at the open again another of those trades Uh, I was looking first at es as a guide. Yes was a simply fading Uh on a curl on a curl of this. Yes. I was looking for longing But instead we didn't have that We had a pop We had a fail Book map over here pushing 1035 Faded over here rejection of the web jail on rejection beautiful fade and now this is going to be a fader I ideal until 965 970 Uh more resistance over here nice even to recycle on this hitma over here 1003 Which is this uh small reversal bar over here. Okay So pretty good on trend um support that we have Check on the over here So I'm looking for that 973. So this is the main support and then I'm looking for this 962 Okay, so let's start and continue to watch tesla if you didn't this morning When we have this uh main fader not really shorty weakness over here breakdowns. I'm looking to Uh pull backs and then looking for a short In the meantime while we were talking Just before connecting I was a little bit slow because we took a top tick short on a small cap And It's paying pretty good Again using book map for taking the top tick maybe after if we have time we can we can watch that Tesla has earnings tonight, buddy and Uh netflix had yesterday the most difficult thing is uh Holding your profits. So not really covering too soon Because when you see something like this you are like up 10 15 points You want to take profit instead it came down 40 points from the open Uh, actually a little bit less than 40 points, but you know still a substantial move down here Now, let's look if we can have some other possible ads So let's look for your entries It was really like a busy morning had uh One tiny stop and six good trades Joseph I'm I'm just curious like uh Like today, I mean you you knocked it out of the park um so Moving forward like um, how do you Now you're gonna want to hold on. I mean the way you want it. I mean I'm imagining the way you're managing your money Uh is you're gonna hold on to that Uh, and uh, you're gonna look for other great setups and not just start jumping in all over the place And and uh, oh, here's another setup. Here's another setup and start giving that money back Yes, so how yeah, if you can just maybe talk a little bit about that like how how you kind of what's your It's more psychology. I think or it's money management and psychology Yeah, so yesterday I wrote something I don't know if I posted it also over here, but I wrote something about patient patient patients So and I made the example that I have two trading strategies one has More than 80% win rate.  Sorry for the word Again, the other one is having a little bit less than 43% win rate And uh, everybody would think that 80% win rate plus actually is around 86. So really really crazy I would think well that is really the best strategy to trade. No Actually, the one is making much more money is the one with 43% win rate And I ask and I put this around and a lot of traders were telling me Oh, yeah, there you are giving me suggestion, but I didn't put that for suggestion I was putting that to hear opinion with the traders and few guys came out and say Oh, is the risk reward exactly is that because I can have 87% win rate or whatever But if I have like one hour one hour and a half and the 43% I have like almost four I'm definitely going to be I would say winning more with that We say 43% win rate, especially because when I lose on the 86% win rate I have like a bigger stop in terms of hard. Okay, so more drawdown on the position more drawdown on the account And that really is a key in risk management The second part of risk management that we can talk about today is how to hold the trade I mean if you look over here and just Bruce made an example That you're holding you have to hold And just look at this trade. Don't look at the stock itself. Okay, because of the stock over here You can look really for so many I would say so many bars. I'm not really interested in that He said I want just this you start looking Okay, let me put it like this And uh, if you go over here and study configuration You can see how I've set the candlestick interval one minute Okay, interval one minute and Just put over here Okay, so you can see the trend We don't have like peaks So relative high and then we have a pullback and then a break So that in that situation would be where I get out half of my position And then for example the trend line and curl back up the remaining half No over here. We have a steady down trend So the only first pullback is this over here. Okay, this over here So we are in a Really ferocious sell-off You don't want to really to end this You want to simply to hold this? I mean, this is a perfect trade And you want to simply Try to maximize profits when you have something like this So what is the point try to hold try to hold try to hold? There are two main I would say different ways to to trade one is like, you know, a lot of traders in my This morning took this short and even being pre-market. I called the short at 254. We had a 254 short This level over here. We were looking before a book about this level of here This level 254 By the time was the open over here was around 247 to 246. So one can trade one Shot and hold it, you know, you can have like your target scale out whatever or If you have confidence in reading also book map Because that's necessary You can simply start your short could be here or could be here, right? on our trend line break or on that Rejection of this support with the vweb in 90 main zealots But then also when we have these beer flags And we have a lot of beer flags, you can see I traced them over here This is a major pullback. Okay. So it's resetting So right now I'm looking for this level over here Around 225 I'm looking at heat map. So we have that heat map over here I'm gonna add a little bit more short for this unwind So each time we have this we can if we're like getting out for example over here over here We can read a little bit. We read a little bit So you get out. Let's say one third position. Okay, let's read one third position And now you assume is your risk trailing the money with the new average Because by doing that you're gonna simply if the trade goes Okay, so if the trend goes down You're gonna simply collect more money and make more money over here than ever So it's like adding to your position So adding the money recycling And I simply love that idea Joseph is there anything at at at the moment you're Looking at Yes so I have position actually mobby has position still on Netflix We uh, we're looking at teslas now This morning. We are holding This L L AP and this is what I call a pump and dump I'm gonna put this up over here L L AP Oh really subscribe. Sorry over here Uh, just look at these traders This was a perfect a perfect way To trade half levels. Okay so First of all the daily Um I said one thing very clearly over here. I just want to post it. So it's clear. What was my call? I said one thing L L P look to short eight dollars And then a trader asked me j y previous supply and J lines on the daily So this is our daily We had this previous supply So resistance. So this is really how to trade a pump and dump And uh, and once we had that rejection after the halt We had to push over here. You can see it open at around seven sixty seven fifty It pushed to this eight and that eight is the daily level. We are watching this over here, right? So we had like an exhaustion right away. I saw sellers jumping in So we decided to trade into this seven thirty seven forty all right This for example is an execution from a member And uh, we are looking for that fate now What I want to see when I do this First of all, I want to see that we cannot reclaim anymore the daily resistance Second I want to look for orders selling orders like jumping in And if you see over here traders We have a nice seller here And then a more seller here. This really Uh confers my thesis And then I want to see third Okay, so one the we don't go reclaiming more the resistance second the heat maps Third, I want to see a lower high This is a nice lower high, right? We can see a trend line break. I mean, this is amazing. Now the target up here is 480 So I want to stay for 480 target Okay, make sense traders. Any question on this? Yeah, what what about the bounce off of your blue line there? I don't want to take that bruce For two main reasons one. I don't have like, you know, a huge amount of heat map over here Uh, like for example this morning we had on alvr and then after we review second is And by the way, bruce, we're giving a lot of formation this I mean Traders if they're just like following what we're gonna say and what they're saying each week They're gonna learn a lot and and we're etiquette traders. So that's something I really like so Give really a thumb up traders for bruce and For the guys over here for booking up. They're doing all this and it's I think something very valuable um So not long in over here for the reason that we have already Our stock it is doing a pump and dump We have no use such demand over here. I don't see any kind of big liquidity We had like some Support over here, but you see they're moving down, you know, seems like they're they're just like spoofing and they're guiding this down And that's really funny at the same time. I'm looking for these pots for Uh, a pop like this in rejection. Okay, so I look over here. We have a resistance, right guys 670 665 so we have this This is a wall of sellers Anyway, say today, this is not a lot of selling pressure. Well, it is you have to consider how much this is trading So if we have this push And we have this I'm looking for a short until this level down here. Okay, so we'll post over here in the Book of empty score room Over here. So this is remember a pump and dump scenario we're gonna write over here pump and dump scenario on Llap And I really look for this This is great. I mean like you're looking at your higher time frame levels Uh, you know your strategy. So you're looking for a bounce off of the blue line there or the blue zone But the heat map is telling you something different the order flow is telling you something different Exactly exactly exactly. I mean this is this is just classic.  If you don't know what you're doing Uh, I see a lot of traders that are getting I would say Um Bad results because they don't know still the the setups to trade they don't recognize the pattern They don't read the order flow So it's putting more things together. You can now simply look at the chart and trade the levels In my opinion. Okay, then I don't say nobody does it and nobody is profitable only doing that But personally It's like, you know, it's like when you want to become an athlete You have to work on every single part of your body mind condition Plan so it's sticking more things together for me is like strategy risk management mental discipline and all sort of flow And when you put all these together you become a complete trader All right, it's like if you're I don't know you're a soccer player and you only know like To play in defense and then when you're when your team moves like in an off-sense over here And you know how to play So learn how to put all the aspects together And now the other one that I'm looking at I don't have a position over here This morning. I can say I traded Bruce will already understand where I showed it so Some of the guys longed it And they longed over here like my friend Pierre He took one box and 40 cents per share And We had this you see this dip over here, right the reclaim of the V web around 670 So this was a very good trade But I missed the trade so once I miss the trade what I'm going to do I'm not really going to Jump in again. I'm not really just like Having FOMO and and trying to To grab something that already left. Okay, that's not my style so I waited and I was looking for Did too long this was too fast and I said again said no well two times I missed this And then I was looking those levels and you can see over here means something beautiful This Bruce when I saw this I was in tears And I basically showed it over here over here Covered cover everything over here Actually, sorry over here So I took another, you know a home run not something like wow gonna make so much money over here But a point is that I use a heat map And how I use it is simply perfect So I'm not saying this I mean I was showing this slide when I was doing it and I was explaining this With all the process Now what I'm looking is ideally this you see this heat map over here the 790 But I'm always careful When I have this kind of volume on a On a stock above the pre-market high this this white line is the pre-market high So we are at the pre-market high Let me say just a little bit above the pre-market high So careful, I mean trading short this It has to have like a fast blow up like we had it But I mean This over here This is the reason why this morning I shorted So I'm gonna post also this so you have like a reference also right reason why shorted So this is really called gap and extension play And you can see the reference up here From gap and extension play So it's a really systematic approach Let me share over here in the book about police courtroom this And this traders is uh Is a lower risk Set up gap and extension so Now what I'm looking at I said that's 790. I mean ideally we have the 790 Is gonna it's gonna be a good setup Rather than that, I'm still waiting. Okay. I don't want to jump in something just to train Tesla a tesla we're getting to that Level over here at 1010 so This is a big conflict. So view up and other things We also have a big push right now crxt Mabir Yeah CRXT so it's above the pre-market high I was sure it had to be for over here CRXT So at this point what I'm doing over here on CRXT I'm gonna put this one second. I'm gonna look for a daily level Uh So we have some uh resistance over here Then we have more over here We have more over here So I'm looking for the high volume levels So from 250 Yeah, I don't see any kind of other levels Above 250 well So from 250 we go to 365 Let's look CRXT Nice heat map over here very nice heat map on a lower high that 248 is pretty low risk to take the train So we have a It's a small trend line. Okay So the order over here is moving from here. Okay, so first it was stopping out these two levels So it was stopping out over here cane I had basically soaked over here 250 And then it disappeared or he basically selling over here and just like pushing down stock now Yeah, I I missed this. Okay. I missed this and so yeah, joseph if you can like this is really important because like You knew it was going to do this um, and you could have gotten in at like 42 or Or yeah, somewhere around there Because that's where it was and Uh, and that's when you mentioned it somewhere around there 40 42 um, yeah Tell us why you didn't take the trade Uh Basically traders is uh, I was not ready with uh with with the brokers. Remember you have to borrow this is a hard to borrow stock So not all the brokers are uh, give you the the possibility to trade this but I had bars this morning Uh, the fact is I simply missed the timing.  It's not my my trade. Okay Uh, so I have to wait. Uh, that's that's of course what I'm going to do. I have to wait over here So, I mean like how like, uh, did you um start to kind of I mean you feel okay about it. Like uh, I mean it makes me sick to my stomach a lot of the times when I see It's like, ah, I missed it, you know, but This is a part of the game And uh, and and now the risk reward is not in your favor or it's not what you do Um, so how did you kind of learn that or overcome that? I believe with a lot of practice And by journaling your results. So every end of the week I get all my trades and I classified and I divide and buy um set up traded And then I have like a template Which is uh, I would say a methodical sheet where I put all my Yes or no based on different questions And this question are regarding uh emotions and discipline and trading plan and how I executed the plan If I had guts if I Chosen my gut if I was like patient stress or whatever. So I have like I believe 78 questions on that So I can see how I was Uh trading that week What was the main setup that I traded which was the setup with the high win rate and the highest return which one the poorest uh And I would say worse Set up for me. What are the best stocks? What are the best coins? What were the best futures? I believe I take two hours to do this every Friday And uh, or actually every Saturday morning But it really helps you to become a better trader. So if you think that traders is just like No trading taking a chart up And uh, just simply trading. No Uh, don't do it. It's just not like that. There's so much more involved. Okay. There's so much more So, uh, crxt we we've missed it alvr It was alvr right now Okay alvr So don't worry trader. We're still gonna watch netflix And uh And tesla. Yeah, that that could be interesting. Yeah, exactly So alvr here is lateral still on llap On this trade i'm in my average is uh, my average is 754 breakdown alvr. So i'm up over here one buck and 13 cents and 33 cents On llap I'm waiting for 480. So even if you take only 1000 shares on this And it goes down to five bucks You may like your nice 1000 Leave this trade itself And the most important thing is uh, I don't think about the money when you trade think about our return Because when I took the trade Uh, my entry I missed the entry over here. I wanted better entry I got the entry over here And my risk was this So I was risking in this case 60 cents And now if I measure from here from my entry down to here So you have to do all this The body 60 cents and you have your r Okay, so calculate always Uh Using the risk. All right, let's go back to tesla netflix So joseph, I mean that's the the the risk reward that you're outlining there. Um, however, uh You know a lot of times you take partials Uh and and also scale in uh, that's true as well. Uh, but So But you're not holding like nest. I mean you're holding for that that longer Move or that longer or higher time frame move? Uh, but not necessarily though And how do you kind of deal with the risk management on that? Uh, what do you mean bruce?  Are you still holding this? Um, like how how would you go through some of those scenarios? Okay, so I got what you mean So it's uh, it's a big question and I think it's one of the most important uh, I would say Sectors for a trader to improve Uh, because everybody focus always on the entry Uh, and uh, everybody put the stop stop loss now But nobody has you know the clue where exactly this will go We have one thing that is sure we have the thing that we took the trade and we are stop loss So we have two things that are certain But we don't know where the stock will go. So we don't know the target If it goes bad, we have our stop loss.  You will become a full-time trader. Whatever that is your goal It's fine but you have to measure these stocks by using statistics And also by using for example the order of flow I have some precise rules Uh, when I trail and I leave that really to to who gets a a private lesson with me But based on stats, okay and results. So I know exactly how many times from here I will get hit here here here. So I know exactly how to trail But again, if I'm in a trade And I don't see any kind of resistance All right jumping in jumping in Then I start wondering if this is a good trade or not for for a short I mean now I'm just like relaxing because I know that I'm still full-size I know that if it goes over here to above now this trailing 630 I'm going to trail partial If it's going to go everything above here around 710, I'm going to trail Okay, so I have these two main levels in my mind So until there I can simply relax and uh, if it continues to go and I continue to see these Lower highs then for me. Why not to hold it? You know, the essentially Book my best telling me if I have to get out or not All right book my best telling me We don't have any clue. Okay. I don't have any clue if a stock in about one hour Will have like, you know an institutional order or whatever And that we're going to have like a Big one a big push a big squeeze who knows For now what I can say is that all right, this is fading Volume is weak No big orders on the buy Order flow lower highs lower lows good. I'm staying in So this is the process that I believe traders have to do Yeah, yeah, great great stuff joseph Thank you bruce so, um CRXT again And also tesla. Okay. So tesla over here. We have an entry Uh just here So this is a very low risk entry because Once we enter on the trend line I just want to risk a little bit above and in this case over here 1005 Now next target 1000 Next target 92 personally. No, I didn't take it. Okay, so I didn't take I'm over here explaining I'm not in that trade Uh, I'm just like holding Netflix. So he actually mob here But this is a very good entry So perfect setup. In the meantime, I also have to look at CRXT Could possibly push over here We have a our low A lower high. Yeah, I'm also like, um It's a major triangle over here Always watts for the patterns Waiting for for the cracker 250 So a push cracker this to be so break of 250 stuff and then short Or dailies over here to Buy the dip Take a lot of patience. I'm looking right now at 20 stocks My other screens at the same time two futures and three coins so A lot of stuff to watch What do you think traders today what that was going to do on the earnings earnings? Okay, let's check again over here CRXT You're the you're the expert on tesla What uh, what what do you think on earnings? I don't like to trade before the earnings Me like hold a position after further earnings Or when I had their Like let's say after one minute after the earnings So I already have a direction or I simply wait for the morning after Uh, personally in the condition I am tonight I will uh, I will simply wait Alan's asking about how you look at dark pools Yes, I'm looking at dark pools. Uh, you have to look with your broker if you have access A book map will show if you have access to the mbbo a national best bid not Yeah I mean book yeah, I mean you you you showed like a million one trade for like a million shares like I don't know Multi-million-dollar trade obviously, uh, and It had to be a dark pool. There's just no way around it Yeah, yeah, yeah Let's see the CRXT over here So there's trying to hold over here support The way you saw over here Bruce we had a stuff, but you see the price is still holding right? It came to the 250 spike right away rejection. Yeah, let's see if it could make it back down to your I have no position over here on CRXT. Um, still I'm still waiting Yeah Mavi, are you ready? Yes Well, they're trying to push over here traders. You can see the the orders to 28 to 30 to 35 stay again 250 248 to 50 still waiting You have to wait that Let's see over here This is the mbbo traders. You see it like this, right A lot of traders, uh, mc. They're looking for good earnings on tesla And I would say yes I would say also. Yes, but you know, I don't want to Use any lot though options over here 243 So they're holding over here this 241 right now The body is uh holding that support is refilling. We went down to 11 000 now back to 23 000 They're definitely going to do something over here 77 million traded crazy amount of volume for this small cap They're holding the support to 40 to 41 As I said, I'm looking for a fake out of this 255 to short 235 support. Remember, this is also a fib level It's really often, you know, just about waiting the opportunity waiting the opportunity But I can tell you when we have that opportunity We have to wait for that trade It can be a fantastic trade over here Never anticipate. Okay 34 Rejection 246. So there was a little bit of I would say fight between Supply and demand All right, so let's continue to watch Tesla and Netflix So tesla wanted pretty good Remember, we were looking for that trade This is the pop and fill the gate So this is not me, but this is how you trade it. Okay push traders coming crxt. Please check So look that extension mob here looking to short between 265 And 280 let's see for this push. Let's see if we have a stuff 262 It took a starter crxt Waiting stuff to load So I took a starter because I saw over here some topping I know that's a pretty good level to take a starter very very small I'm waiting for that a plus setup because over here you have to consider that this is a breakout They will look for a push. Yes So some big volume over here. Okay. I'm loaded 280 Loaded 280 Loaded 280 Now I'm waiting for this to fail The extension play And let's see if we can fail below the 245 Nice over here 260 I think we can have a breakdown This case my risk is 283 See the second one over here pretty good. Yeah My average is 273 So I'm risking 10 cents Actually, I'm going to risk this 286 over here I saw some big buyer 275 You can see over here Well trade is not working. I'm downsizing at 275 So I'm lowering my risk Why because after this stuff over here, I wanted this to see a fail instead is not fading So I downsize now risking this with the rest 286 Average over here is still the same And if it goes down, that's fine But if it goes up, I wouldn't have a big stop and also I want to keep my Big win for the day. I'm actually downsizing all over here So I then saw downsize also all out for me 274 I don't care if we'll go That's my risk management Now a little bit more sellers I will wait for a classic lower high and then I can short of this again So I lost one cent over here Taking this trade and that's fine for For this Let's see if we can have a lower high And then a short meanwhile Tesla is unwinding good Okay, Trader so Almost time for us any questions? Yeah, let's see most is Seems when you enter trade, there's a pop up or down near an important area for those entries. Do you initially? Keep large stops and reduce the risk after you are on the trade If not with stop loss With small stop loss does it? Does not that stop you out most of the time Okay, okay. I got it. So when you trade on a fader So in downtrend It's very easy to know where you stop because generally you risk, you know, just above your entry or a relative high or at the bar When instead you're trading Enough trending stock, then you have to look at daily levels So if I have for example, like over here, let's put back LLAP So right now it's 584. I shorted as I said before 754 My risk was 810. So I was risking something like you know, almost 60 cents In that case, I'm risking 60 cents, which seems a lot But you have to know that I'm looking for that. Oh, sorry traders possible trade coming Okay, I'm risking traders for Uh one r because I know that I will get three or four r So I want to definitely take the trade Uh, I don't you know, put large stop or small stop I put stops where I have like levels on the daily and heat map together Okay, that is my point Uh, other question over here. Would you sell And add the money straddle on Tesla to get premium on the volatility? Not really. I prefer I simply buy calls buy puts I don't use like any other strategies. So I keep it very simple using the underlying stock That's my way of doing things and that's what really has been paying for me And the question traders pretty well here Okay No, I think we're all we're all squared away, uh, joseph. Uh, so, uh In valuable, uh, uh nuggets here You know, thank you. Thank you very much, uh, joseph. Um, you know, really appreciate it. Uh, and uh I put your information into the chat if anyone wants to reach out if they have any other questions they want to Let you know And the services that you offer, etc So, uh, uh, yeah That's that and then just uh, let everybody know there is a book map special event Later today at the close, uh, us close here. So at 4 p.m. I take a look in discord And uh, you'll see it there with A new guy here. We will have a bret mayo He'll be there. All right. So talking about, uh, stocks and entries and filtering, etc um, so, uh Yeah, anyway, uh, joseph Excellent stuff here and let's do some more events together. Uh, you had mentioned this you wanted to so I would love to, you know, do some, um I don't know if we'll get creative and and think of some things maybe at the open again How you trade the open, uh, and uh, those were really popular, uh, and they were they were excellent. So, uh Of course, we can make that some of this. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, all right guys. So Uh, thank you for the great session. I mean the market was great today. So hope you learned something Again, uh, you can reach out to me, uh, team at twitter co email or bruce or just write me on the squad Again, see you all next week. Thank you bruce. Thank you. But ma book map and see you next time. Bye. Bye traders Thanks, joseph


I've wanted this since I was a child, I really did, since I was a kid running around in the backyard playing Army. This is what I've wanted to do with my life. Sniper school is the only thing that I knew about the Army before I joined. I asked for the school, shot 40 out of 40, went out of three in the company, and I asked for the slap and got it. You can't stamp out a sniper. You can't just make a sniper, it's a different breed of person. Most of us here believe we're that breed, but I guess in seven weeks we'll find out if we are. So Sniper school is an introductory course to develop soldiers to take positions as snipers. Basically our job is to train them in specific sets of skills. So for instance target detection, range of determination, stalking, marksmanship, and various weapon platforms that we use. So a regular maneuver battalion is going to gain a whole lot from having a sniper and utilizing them properly. Most of the time we're utilized to gather that necessary, key, vital information that a commander needs in order to drive their planning for a raid or for whatever their mission is that they're trying to come up with. What's your estimated range to the target? 200 meters target. Alright, so that estimates 200 meters to the target. I've got decent vision on him. Estimated range, 201 meters. Actual range, 122 meters. You come here to get certified as a sniper, right? So I came here and learned meticulously on everything that I've been taught back in my unit. Went over it and learned the ins and outs and why it's done the way it's done.   Like, it's pretty awesome. Don't come unless you're ready. Because obviously, a lot of soldiers did that. Set 46 came before graduating. If you don't think you're going to make it, you should just go home now. That's the mindset you've got to have. If you think you're going to fail, you've got to fail.


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Mark, you recently put up some news on an update on your production enhancement program. Would you like to give our audience some updates on that, please? Yeah, happy to, Tracy. We're busy in the field and have been since late in Q4, and our project is out of the Babylon, Texas. Of our well program we announced, which was chemical stimulations on 17 wells. We are about 80% done the program. We had some delays due to weather. We had some flooding in the area, and also some record cold weather we had to shut in. But we're anticipating we'll be done the entire program over the next two weeks and should have the results on the back of that. So, so far, so good. But Mother Nature hasn't been cooperating as well as we had hoped so far. Your timeline has been very aggressive since you started Flemont. And if you wouldn't mind giving us more of an update on your well stimulation and facility optimization programs and kind of give us an update on where you're at now, since you in the last year even. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we started last year with two acquisitions at 31 barrels of oil equivalent per day. Our latest update in the fall, we were at 177 barrels of oil equivalent per day. So we had some very rapid growth. The program, which you just mentioned, the chemical stimulation in the surface facilities is to design to not only continue the ramp in production, we're hoping we can kind of double it from our last update to the market. But also to speed up the cycle in which we can sell oil into the local market there. So both of those projects are we're about 80% done as far as the facilities were 100% done. So we are anticipating that we should be able to update the market on new production numbers. Probably about the end of February or early March. So we're pretty close to, like I said, we're almost done and numbers are coming out shortly. Mark, I was reading in your previous news release that basically management expectations are all basically on track. But you specifically said that you're expecting to resume daily production in early February. Do you want to give us an update? Yeah, absolutely. So most of the wells are back on right now. So the 17 wells that were completed in the program are on production now. And I would also add that at the early Q4, we announced the TCX ask position, which is another eight additional producers. Seven of those should be also tied in probably the end of next week, I think is a conservative estimate. So we will have 24 producing wells back on tied into infrastructure and selling oil from all of those. So again, we're a little bit behind where we want it to be, but we're really excited to have TCX completely tied in and ramping up now as well as the historical Willow Bend and Millikan assets. Of course, you were discussing your surface facility optimization that was nearly complete in our last conversation and talking about additional oil storage and treatment infrastructure that you were working on. Where are you with these different projects? I'd say we're about 95% done on them. We're really happy with what we've been able to do with the additional sales tanks, which allows us to produce oil, treat the produced oil to get it up to WTI spec and sell it in a timely manner. We really wanted to take down our working capital cycle of treating oil and selling it from approximately 70 days down to around 30 days. So we're really starting to speed up the cash flows that can come into the company and obviously flow into the balance sheet would benefit all shareholders. Mark, you just announced a substantially experienced CFO joining your team. Would you like to tell us a little bit more about Steve? Yeah, Steve's got about 25, 30 years experience in public markets. He's a CFA background and he's really done everything from A to Z on the public company side, whether he's been CFO, COO, or COO of companies. And it's just huge value add for us because his breadth and depth of knowledge, particularly now as we're an operating company and there's a lot more documentation than we need that when we were pre-production. So it was just really adding some more bench strength. Our previous CFO was excellent, but we're super excited to be working with Steve and to have them hands on in our business day in and day out. Shareholders right now might be wondering what to expect in Q1 and Q2. Can you give us any insight? Yeah, absolutely. So before the end of Q1, we'll have a full update on the results of the production enhancement program, which we talked about a bit earlier here today. We're excited to get those out to the market again. We'll probably have an update coming in the next week or so and then a subsequent update, probably the end of Q1 to really give people some numbers that they can dig into. At the same time, we remain active in the area looking to deal flow in the area. There's nothing imminent, but we've got multiple assets we've got our eyes on. I think there's a good chance we can add another asset to the portfolio sometime before mid-year 2024. Well, Mark, thank you so much for the update. And for everyone seeking more information on Wedge launch resources, please go to their website. Thank you, Mark. Thanks, Tracy. Have a good day.


How's it going, man? Hey, what's up? What did you work on? What is ClickUp 3.0? What is your favorite part about working on me? Hey man, what did you work on? For 3.0, I worked on the new ListView experience. For many of our users, this is our core view. It's our go-to every day. And we wanted to provide a beautiful look as well as improved performance.  So what did you work on? I worked on automations and AI. You can summarize comments, which is probably the one I use the most. I can just break that down into a couple sentences, send it, and be done. I worked on the custom field manager. In the tool, you can see a full bird's-eye view of all the custom fields across your workspace, all the relevant metadata about them. And then you can take a lot of different actions to manage them. You can move them around to different locations. You can merge them together, duplicate fields as you see fit, and overall just ensure that they're in top shape for everybody in your workspace. This has been a top-feature request for ClickUp for years at this point. Really excited to be able to bring that to life in 3.0. Thank you so much. Awesome, thanks. And man, what did you work on? So the main thing we worked on was the task view. With that one, we really wanted to solve two problems. Being able to have a simple task, just make it clean, simple to understand, but then also something more complex. If you use a task for a project, how can you have it really be complex but still easy to work with? And we did that with the new task view 3.0. It was really adding in certain features like a subtest sidebar. Just being able to work with the customer in building the product together, it's very different. This is how we work in ClickUp. We're very open and it was just a great time. I worked on three things, home, hubs, and location overview. On home, I think that's where people organized their entire work and with 3.0, like how customers can actually reorder and customize their cards. We've introduced some new cards like Reasons, where they can actually just go back to what they were working on very fast. And also we've introduced a card called Assign to Me, where they can actually do enhanced task management there. My favorite part, I think, just working in a team setup and just addressing some of the top pain points for customers. So that was like super exciting. Universal Search is the ability to search all your work in one place. You can search tasks, docs, and the new features. You can also search your other applications like GitHub, Google Drive, Figma. It's a way to unify all your work in one place. My favorite way to use Universal Search is with a desktop application.  It saves you about 25 seconds per search. It's a complete reimagination of our entire product and platform. We've got Inbox, a completely redesigned take on collaboration and personal task management workflows. Never had that before and it's built from the ground up to be more performant, reliable than ever and really making it easy for you to keep up with your work. There's ListView, you know, the most frequently used surface area inside of the product, making it more usable. In general, our vision from V1 to V3 hasn't changed a ton. Our general messaging around what we're trying to solve and save people time and bring them all into one app has been pretty consistent. Really, we've become a bigger team. We're able to accomplish more and truly fulfill that mission. So going to V3, I think that's just another step in that direction and excited to keep going. I love the Inbox in V3. I live out of my notifications and being able to snooze notifications is pretty great so that I can actually get to the bottom and then they'll pop up a few days later. I'm Alex Rikowski. I'm the CTO here at ClickUp. Some of the fundamental beliefs that ClickUp was built on was always about improving productivity and saving people time. The original vision of putting all of your work in one place is still the same vision that we have today. It's just grown in size and grown in scope. V3 is bringing all of our tools back together in a much more cohesive way with exceptional design and elegant user experience and also adding another layer of customization and flexibility into our product, which were core principles since day one. My favorite 3.0 feature is Inbox because I live and breathe out of notifications. I also really love custom task types because it's a large completion of the original vision we had of ClickUp, which is using ClickUp not just for tasks and projects, but for clients and for goals and for sprints and for people management, right, for HR, for everything. As we always do with ClickUp, we will continue improving what we have. We will continue innovating towards the future and we will continue building towards our ultimate goal of making people more productive. I'm Zeb Evans, CEO and founder at ClickUp. Congrats on ClickUp 3.0. Wow!


voice first time on the show first time first time I got to correct that statement actually Adrian Neil Turbin who works with us on the metal voice he interviewed you at the last Ronnie James Dio. Yeah yeah yeah that was for the metal voice that was Neil Turbin he's the man on the street in Los Angeles so that was a great interview yeah yeah so this is a real treat Adrian I mean I've been a fan since the very first album Vandenberg in fact I like this so much I went on to get two copies. All right great you're gonna stay. Bring us up to news here what's happening is this a Vandenberg album a Moon King's album a White Snake in the making album. Yeah you never know with me you know it could be I'm all over the place basically. So it's released it was released just a few weeks ago or two weeks ago maybe it's called Sin on mascot records so what's the difference between this album and the one you did with Ronnie Romero in 2020 what would be the difference and for the fans and I realized I was really happy with 2020 album and I still am but when we started doing when we had a bunch of live shows under our belt I realized I would I would like to try to get a little closer to how we sound live with them so I turn everything up a little bit a little bit more out of the amplifier a little bit more punch on the on the drums just a little bit more of everything and go a little heavier and it came came out really handy that I ran into much because as you can tell he he sings with a with an incredible amount of intensity so that really helped making this album a much heavier than the 2020 album. Okay, who's the lineup that plays on this album? The line of the rest of the band is the same you know I have to stop working with Ronnie because our schedules didn't match anymore as everybody knows Ronnie Ronnie takes on quite a lot of projects and he lives in Romania so in Romania they were able to start taking on stuff a little sooner than we were in Holland after Covid they were a little bit more free so to speak and and so in England the same thing we we did shows in England the way before we were even allowed to do shows in Holland so that was pretty weird. Yeah and in terms of if I say this sounds like White Snake what do you how do you react to that? I put this on I go is this David Carverdale singing here is this this sounds very heavily Led Zeppelin White Snake influenced or maybe that's just Vandenberg or maybe that's just Vandenberg go ahead. Well and first of all I'm really happy that you don't think it sounds like like a Britney Spears album so that's great and of course you know more people have mentioned that of course and there's two things that influence that of course I was with White Snake for 12 or 13 years and David and I wrote a couple of albums together and even before that when I joined White Snake David said man there's a couple of songs on the on the on the Vandenberg albums that could have been White Snake songs or the other way around and one of the reasons why he wanted to work with me was the way my son writing he mentioned it many times also an interview so it's very logical that's the kind of music that flows out of me naturally and even the band I had before Vandenberg a band called Teaser we never really get outside of Holland and Germany but that that is very close to the earlier White Snake like White Snake in the late 70s and early 80s very blues oriented heavy rock basically so and then of course as you can tell and Mutz the vocalist Mutz is tamer a stoner voice is definitely not far away from David stoner voice so you put one on one together and you and you've got like a an album that logically doesn't sound too far away from White Snake so when you're writing these songs whose voice do you have in your head that to sing along yeah you know it's I've always written with Paul Rogers voice in mind and David Covertil voice and Robert Plans voice those kind of blues based rock singers I've always been my favorite you know and still is still the case and for me like as good as they are singers like Stephen Fierce or Vince Neil you know they're great in in the LA style of rock but but I'm European as you know and my heroes have always been bands like Jimi Hendrix Cream Led Zeppelin Rainbow the purple Humble Pie and on top of that an American band like Mountain that was a big influence on me Leslie West was a big influence my play my playing and they were basically like the American Art Circular Zeppelin or the other way around the who knows you know but that it's all my roots are in in blues rock basically and I give it a little bit of a classical place here and there because you know there was classical music in the house when I grew up all the time because my sister is classical piano player and my dad played classical piano and jazz all the time so when I had my first Marshall stack in my tiny bedroom that's when the sound in the house of Hamburg changed drastically. Let me ask you this so I'm listening to the sound the guy you know Matt sounds so much like David Coverdale and Robert Plant and I guess that's what you're hearing in your head. Yes when I now I forgot my question. Do you ever veer off and have any other voices like or maybe I don't know Rob Halford or you know you ever have any other inspirations to go down that road like more of a power metal. Oh yeah yeah you know there's definitely influences in that in this album you know for instance the song Sin and the song Out of the Shadows they are it could have had singing like Rob Halford on it or one James Dio another favorite of mine and it's definitely a step further than what I the kind of stuff I wrote in the early Vandenberg days. Yeah and but for a song like Baby You've Changed where I wrote the lyrics and the vocal melodies as well and like I used to do in the early Vandenberg days and the 2020 album actually and I can imagine somebody like Steve Perry on that one you know Steve Perry with another favorite singer of mine and then he could definitely make this song his own definitely. Yeah yeah you know I'm listening to like you mentioned Out of the Shadows I'm listening to that I'm like you know why don't you just get David Coverdale to sing it I mean that's how close it is is are you still in touch with David. Oh yeah a lot as a matter of fact just earlier today we had an email exchange we became really really good friends as everybody knows and we're always in touch sometimes is like a month and a half in between when he's touring and sometimes like two times a week you know so we we became instant friends when I when I haven't even made up my mind to join White Snake yet. We have so many similar influences and growing up and our music and especially a sense of humor also because they're having periods where I lived at David House for about three quarters of a year to the extent that we started calling calling me Poltergeist because this was one of my aliases when we were on tour you know whenever you're in a hotel you use an alias for your room in order to not get bombarded with fans knocking on your door so one of my aliases was Poltergeist.  How much so I'm looking at Wikipedia and I see restless heart and there's a there's a statement there and I want you to clarify this you started doing writing sessions with David Coverdale on restless heart and Coverdale it says that Coverdale kind of was presented with songs that sounded like Chicago and poison is there any truth that is there any truth to that I never heard that to be honest you know it's so there's sessions this is what it says Adrian but their sessions broke down after Vandenberg allegedly presented Coverdale with songs more suitable for Chicago or poison during the restless heart era I don't think so because we wrote the songs in David's house so I don't know where it came from but it sounds funny though so you never gave him songs that sounded very pop like and AOR ish you know it could be because I write very melodic stuff you know and that's how I come up with a bellow like burning heart or like baby you've changed you know and they could probably be covered and not by poison because that's definitely no singer Brett Michael is definitely no singer in this vein of songs but Chicago I don't know who knows you know I mean I I always David and I always agree on the fact that a song a song a song should be a song is a good song when it can get dressed up in whether it's country western whether it's a big band whether whatever it makes the song stand up if you if you look at a song like like yesterday by the Beatles or like a Frank Sinatra songs Elvis Bradley song here we go again you know I mean I think there are country western versions of a song like here we go again it's a great song and if you put the horns behind it it could be a Chicago song I don't know you know all right did you ever meet Bernie Marsden unfortunately he passed recently would you yeah what was he said as a guitar player how would you describe him well he's a great classic classic rock guitar player you know he was really good in the early whites night he was a great songwriter because he co-wrote here we go again you co-wrote 2 3 11 like a whole bunch of those old white things on classical I think some of it were so strong that Geffen wanted basic to re-record them on the 87 element and we record it as you know full 3 11 on them so like I said before you know a good song is a good song no matter how you dress it up when you were transitioning from when you're writing with David and then they transitioned to a Steve Vai did you guys work to get what was it on what's the arm it was the top of the tongue slip of the tongue you're doing writing sessions with with David Carverdale and then of course if your accident prevented you for to doing the studio where Steve Vai took over it was there sort of like a writing co-writing together those songs or no no no Dave and I already finished the songs and I played them the guide guitar as it's called the guide written guitars on the on the basic tracks in order to get a picture for David for instance and for the producer involved what the song was going to be like and what the approach would be and then this which problem came up so I had to leave the session and as you can imagine when I then the slip of the tongue album sonically in my mind I pictured it like the sin album we were just talking about it the whole sin album could could have been a lot of those songs could have been on the on the slip of the tongue album you know that's how I write and that's how I record my guitars so if people want to have an idea how slip of tongue would have sounded would be playing on it should listen to the sin album and you have the full picture that's a good way to do it. Yeah, I guess I'm going to clarify something I got modern pop-ups book and in this book it's alluded to the Keith Olson said he kind of refuted the risk problem that you just spoke about is there any truth on that and I've never heard this from anybody else reading this book is a bit in a shock so I want to take advantage and ask you that to clarify once and for all if there was any doubt that there was a risk problem that kept you from recording that album. No, no, the thing is Keith even though he wasn't involved in that stadium yet and we were working with my clink and Keith Olson was involved later he didn't know the other thing is it's contradictory with what he said earlier. I don't think he said it because when I recorded the guitar parts for a year ago again that was done in about half an hour we recorded it. I came up with the arrangement for the clean and sounding guitar. The guitar solo was done in about five minutes. Keith was raving about it, you know and he said man, man, man, it's a pity you couldn't be involved with more stuff on this album because it's a great combination with the work that Joe Sykes did. It would have been a great combination he said. I agree because Sykes and I have a very different style and just like with Steve Vai and me during the tour everybody loved the two different styles blend together. It's exciting for an audience to have two guitar players that don't sound similar otherwise it doesn't really make much sense, you know, to have two guitar players apart from the sound that you double the rhythm guitar parts. Yeah, fine, you know, but yeah, I said it was I don't think he said it, you know, to be honest because he was very complimentary in earlier interviews too. When it was about those sessions so it's very easy for people to write something like that down and he passed away, you know, so yeah. So is there any truth like Vivian Campbell's belief that you didn't want a second guitarist in their band? You wanted to be the sole guitarist and wait. No, no, it is very I heard their stories to interviews. The reason why David wanted to stop working with Vivian was 80% of that was Vivian's wife.  She kept going up to the sound guy and go my husband is not loud enough in the mix and she went to the light guy my husband doesn't get enough lights on stage and then she was a man. Asked Jimmy as a tour manager at the time, you know, they were so fed up with her and the other 20% was that the ideas for the song that Vivian presented to David, David didn't think they were suitable for White Snake. He said they were more suitable for bands like you too or like something else, you know, and the Vivian got offended by that and that's why I didn't even know Vivian that David told Vivian that he didn't want to keep working with him until our tour manager Jimmy Ayers came to my room and said, well, Vivian is not in a band anymore.  I had no objections about anything and then White Snake was always a two-guitar band, you know, as you know. So after that, you know, it was a coming and going from the guitar players. It was Warranty Metini that I really enjoyed playing with Warrant. Of course, it was D. Vi and then it was D. Ferris in the 1997 tour.  I was always being a when I grew up, I listened a lot to the older brothers, two-guitar bands. I was a Ken Lizzie fan, two-guitar bands. I was asked to join Ken Lizzie at some point and that was a two-guitar band. I didn't say, no, I'm not going to do it. I want to be the only guitar.  When did David cover their first become an owner? I've read that he wanted you in the band even before John Sykes and then in this book, John Collodner says, oh, until I put this dream band together for the videos, David didn't even know Adrian existed, which I found hard to believe. So David didn't even know I existed. Yeah, apparently John Collodner in this book said that the only reason he was aware of you is because of the videos that he put his dream band together for the videos. And I thought he knew you way before that. The question is, did you know you were asked to join White Snake before John Sykes, correct? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, wait. That was my answer. That's it. You were and then you said, no, right? That's how it went. Well, do you tell us? Yeah, the first time I was in 82 and the first Vanderbilt album was about to get released. And David mentioned in an interview, I always read his interview because it was a fan interview in one of the English music magazines. I think it was Melody Maker and he said, well, and the next I got a new guitar player and an unknown best guy called Adrian Vandenberg. And I read the interview ago. What? I didn't know about it. And a couple of weeks later, David invited me to come to a White Snake show in Holland in Utrecht. And he invited me backstage. I got picked up by his tour manager and said, David would like to meet you and David suggested now to join White Snake. I said, well, man, I'm a big fan. I can't do it because this album is coming out. I signed a conflict with Atlantic. I can't, you know, stop the band. So, and the second time was around the, the, um, flight in an album. David was recording it in, in Munich, Germany. And I got asked again and I was actually the second time was, um, when White Snake was headlining the Donaldson festival in England. And again, David invited me backstage. And he repeated his, um, his, um, invitation. But I was recording the second Vandenberg album in Jimmy Page's studio again. I said, man, bad timing again. Let's take a touch, you know. So the third time was when he was recording the Slytherin album. I got a call by his manager and he said, so, um, I was in a situation right now. I said, man, I'm recording the third Vandenberg album. I can't, you know. It was always when I was recording another Vandenberg album. So you refused David Carvedale three times. That's what you're saying. Yes. He didn't like it. Um, but, um, you know, uh, I didn't like it either because David is one of my all time favorite singers, you know, uh, just like Robert Plant and, and, and Ronnie Dio and Paul Rogers and, and those guys, you know, um, but we both knew the timing, uh, wasn't right each and every time. So in 86 when John Colomber, um, called me up and he said, well, I heard, um, you, you got out of your contract with Atlantic, uh, I would like to invite you to come to, um, to, to LA to talk about a new contract for Weissner, for Vandenberg. And he said, yeah, great, you know.  I actually have two proposals for you. One is to, um, to fire the rest of Vandenberg and to put together a new lineup for Vandenberg in Los Angeles with a couple of top class American or English musicians. I said, well, yeah. Well, it sounds interesting because people had mentioned that same thing to me before the people from Atlantic and our American manager, an enemy, an adamantie who was the manager of a cheap trick. They kept repeating the same thing. They didn't think the lineup was good enough. Um, so, uh, I said, well, what is the other proposal? He said, well, I would really like you to join Weissner. And I said, well, I've heard it before, you know, and be your mind if I think about it for a couple of days, you know, um, I had to put a picture in my mind and then said, well, while you're here, I would like to ask you to come up with a different guitar arrangement for here we go again and to play a Vandenberg style solo on it because, um, the way John Sykes recorded it, he says, uh, Kolota said it wasn't radio friendly enough and it made him think of a country in Western song played by a metal band. So, so that's literally what he said. So I thought I said, great, because I love the song because I knew the song from the first recording and when I was in England recording the first Vandenberg album, um, here we go again was a huge hit in England in the older version in the classic version. And I thought, man, what a great song. I heard in the clubs in England at the time. Um, and of course David singing was my favorite since, since he joined the purple actually. So I thought that was a great idea. So, um, I told John, of course, you know, so that's when I worked with Keith Olson and, uh, I recorded the whole thing within half an hour. There you go. Yeah, it's amazing. And, and Keith said that that's great because, um, apparently John Sykes took almost a year for all the guitar parts on the album. He's a little slow. He's a little slow. Yeah, you know, but it wasn't a very difficult process. You know, David had a problem with his sinuses and all the stuff. It was like a pretty complicated album. Fortunately it paid off because it cost a lot of money as you can imagine. So Keith was really happy. Maddie's is in half an hour, you know, this is great. Um, uh, and they repeated his compliments.  You know, it was in a book. There's, there's, I wish it would have been like a made of story because I would have kept playing and picked up my playing a lot faster than I was able to do, you know. Yeah, yeah. There, there's two bands. You toured with Ozzie and you toured with KISS. And these are two bands that have always different guitars. Did you ever get asked by Gene Simmons or Ozzie Adrian? Join our band. Join our band.  You did by which one? Um, it was a story that I never told before, but it was, you guys got a premiere. Um, Ozzie actually, um, the first time I met him during the tour when we started, but I must say he was not quite sober. Um, which is unusual for Ozzie of course, which is very unusual for Ozzie of course. But yeah, you know, the tour manager introduced me to him and then he was in the lunch room of one of the hotels and you know, he said, Adrian, do you want to join my band? That's a man, you know, we're supporting you guys and, um, and Jake is a fantastic player and, uh, we mumbled something like, uh, we'll say in touch or whatever you know, but, uh, later on, um, some people, uh, mentioned, uh, that, um, uh, Don Erie and a couple of other guys in the band, um, mentioned to Ozzie that my style of playing at a lot of resemblance with, um, Wendy Rhodes is playing in the, in the sense of classical influences like Euro metal type of stuff combined with American and blues and whatever, you know, so, um, hearing that and hearing Randy's playing because I was not really familiar with value playing because Ozzie was not popular in Europe at all at the time. You know, he was huge in the United States. So when we got the invitation to support him, um, I was kind of surprised. I thought, wow, Ozzie, you know, um, uh, I didn't really know he was that huge in the States. Is that in 83? Are you saying in 83? That was 83. Yeah. Yeah. It was the tour with, um, Jake, uh, on guitar and, uh, Tommy, that's how I, uh, I got to know Tommy. Uh, I didn't, uh, I couldn't expect that I would end up playing with Tommy Tommy couple of years later. And, um, this, the, the, the bass player was a weird guy. The Rudy's Bob Daisley or Rudy Sarazo? No, no, because I got to know Rudy in the same tour when, when quite wide was supporting Vandenberg when we started headlining the tour. Uh, quite wide was supporting. I got a couple of California shows and it became instant friends with Rudy and I still am friends with Rudy. Um, it was, uh, what was his name? He, he was into self mutilation or something.  Don Costa. Yeah, but Don Costa was ultimate sin though. Uh, well, he was on the tour. Yeah. What, what, what is that again? Was that a piece later on the back? So that was, that was on the ultimate sin tour that Vandenberg opened up. Not on Bark at the Moon. No, no, no, it was, but I don't think it was Bark at the Moon. Um, but, um, Don Costa played bass on that tour. So I don't, maybe, um, maybe he went, uh, you know, white snake style and have a different lineup for, for the tour. I don't know. But yeah. Don Costa was, uh, the whole bit that we played, Don was, uh, doing the bass, basically torturing his bass was more like, on the back of his guitar. All right. I guess we have time. I guess the last question is sharks. Sharks. Where did the sharks come from on the albums? Yeah. It's a good question. Um, when I made the paintings for the second Vandenberg album, um, I painted this. I was, uh, when I was at Arthur and university, uh, for five years, um, when I, when I started, uh, I've always been a huge fan of Salvador Dali and surrealistic paintings and realistic paintings. Um, uh, I got the idea for, for making a painting where those sharks flying over the highway towards somewhere. So when I made the painting for the, when I made the, the painting for this album, I thought it would be great to have a connection with that and made the sharks fly into New York, the city of sin. And the second name of New York, as we know, is the apple. So there's a connection with the snake and the apple, my past with white snake and the original sin, of course, Adam and Eve and the, and the apple and the snake. So that's the whole picture basically. Fantastic. I love the sharks. I just love the sharks. They stick out. Fortunately, our time's up. So it was too good to speak to you and, and big fans like forever. So I'm really glad. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, man. And if there's any more questions, you know, get in touch with these and, and at some point we'll just continue yapping away. Thank you so much, Adrian. Thank you so much. My pleasure, man. My pleasure. Take care, guys.