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Hi everyone. Today we're going to be talking about redefining patient safety in the digital era. My name is Deena Mendelssohn. I'm director of health policy and data governance at Elector Labs. And I'm Jen Goldsack. I'm the executive director of the Digital Medicine Society. When Diane Diller, a woman featured in a 2019 Washington Post news article, downloaded the primacy tracking app Ovia. She used it for much the same reason at the apps of 10 million other viewers to track her pregnancy and the health of her baby. She did not intend for that information to be shared with her employer, but that's exactly what happened. Think about what's involved with making a baby. Think about how you feel if your boss got the details. It's not just embarrassing for women. It puts them at risk for pregnancy discrimination and adverse effects in the workplace. But first, some level setting. Jen will walk you through exactly what we're talking about when we talk about biometric monitoring technologies. She'll also explain why, despite a whole DEFCON talk designed to point out the safety risks of these products, we still believe that these technologies are critical for patient care and clinical research. Jen will also cover our biometric ethics portion before talking to me. This got the shaky ground for data rights in the United States. After that, we'll get to the fun stuff. If you consider a serious safety violation to be fun. Fantastic. Thanks, Dina. Let's dive in and think about why healthcare is different in the digital age and why digital health at all. If we look at the financial information, we see huge possibilities, huge promise, and a lot of noise in Silicon Valley about the value, the financial value of this new and emerging industry. In fact, even throughout the course of the pandemic, the first half of 2020 yielded some of the greatest investments in digital health. Is it all about the money? Absolutely not. I think that the financial investments that we've seen are a product of and perhaps an indicator for, but certainly aren't the reason that we're passionately pursuing the safe, effective, ethical, and equitable use of digital health technologies. Let's think about the healthcare environment that we've been in for the last few decades. Let's think about some of the persistent and pervasive problems that as a community, and not just as an industry, as a whole population that we face as a result of these challenges in healthcare. In 2018, U.S. household spending topped a trillion dollars. Now, we know that healthcare spending writ large here in the U.S. is over three trillion dollars, but kitchen table conversations, what folks were individually being asked to write a check for to preserve their own health was over one trillion dollars. Let's put that into context. Three trillion dollars total healthcare spending here in the U.S. It's more than the GDP of France. This is an enormous industry and we are paying a price for it that we cannot afford. And despite all of this investment, our workforce here in the U.S. is dying higher rates than any other developed country. We're paying out of the nose for healthcare and we are not getting high quality in return. In fact, the number one reason that most Americans file for bankruptcy is healthcare costs. And the other week I learned it's the number two reason cited these days in divorce proceedings. It's the stress and the strain and the financial implications of a healthcare system that is absolutely unsustainable. And despite all of this, we still have these catastrophic diseases and illnesses that we are in no place to try and treat. There is not a single disease modifying treatment available for Alzheimer's.  Interestingly, for folks who don't know, the gold standard that we use in evaluating Alzheimer's, whether it's a loved one that you're helping get treatment for, or whether it's in a clinical trial setting, is a document for the ADAS cog. It's a 30-something page paper document that physicians fill out. It's a blunt instrument that's helping us in sort of preserve the status quo. And in the absence of technology, we're really going to struggle to make progress. And the challenge is, even when we do have terrific interventions and treatments for chronic diseases such as diabetes, one in four diabetics in the US ration their insulin because they can't afford to pay for it. This is an unsustainable status quo that we're in today. We have our warfighters coming home from service. And due to PTSD that we cannot treat when they're in rural areas, there's a really sort of a terrible maldistribution of folks who can help them and the patients in need. Our American heroes are dying for preventable reasons. And finally, even the clinicians who are at the front lines have suicide rates at the highest possible level. This is a system that is broken for absolutely everyone involved. And so I would say to you that we're not here to talk about technology today because it's cool. We're not here to talk about technology because there's a ton of money in it. We are passionate about the use of these technologies to try and solve these problems. They're not going to be a silver bullet, but we believe that they can make a difference. So what we want to discuss today with this idea of a new definition of patient safety is for all of the promise that these technologies have, there are new risks that we need to be eyes wide open to to make sure that we aren't creating a new laundry list of difficulties in the digital era of healthcare. So let's actually talk about for a second what we need when we talk about digital health. As I said, the industry is enormous. At some point we envisage digital health being a bit like computers and business. They're going to be ubiquitous. So if we're talking about a $3 trillion industry, where are we putting the different digital components? So we would offer up a definition that the use of digital and the support of improved lives to improve health all fits into the bucket of digital health. And that includes things like communications technologies, record keeping systems, so on and so forth. Within that, there's a more specific category of digital medicine products, which both measure and intervene in the service of health. So that may be sensor technologies, that may be algorithms, that may be different tools and solutions that support the administration of active molecules and traditional devices. And then there's a very specific subset of the field that we would describe as digital therapeutics, where the software itself is the intervention. That's a new and rapidly growing field, and I think an important component for us to keep in mind. For the purposes of mine and Dean's thought today, we are going to focus on biometrics monitoring technologies or biometrics. And we define those specifically as connected digital medicine tools and ones that rely upon a sensor for data capture and a single or a suite of algorithms for processing that information to give us measures of a person's health status. And why are we so interested in these biometrics? This is a great visual that I like to show. If we think about how we deliver healthcare in current state, if we think about how we do clinical research, we're relying on these really isolated data snapshots that you see at the top of the graph. The possibility created by these biometric monitoring technologies is that we can have a much greater, much more holistic look at a patient's lived experience with and without disease, with and without a given treatment. And that's why we're so keen to focus on this because we see this as sort of the tip of the sphere in really addressing some of those really pressing healthcare challenges that I shared with you earlier. And this is a bit of a silly cartoon, but I don't, because it's important to have some levity. But I wanted to talk about how decision making actually works in healthcare today. Oftentimes we think about a risk benefit analysis. It's wrong to say that we don't tolerate risk. It's wrong to say that we don't tolerate safety issues. And I think chemotherapy might be a really good example for anyone who has battled cancer themselves or has sort of been on the journey with a loved one. We all know that the side effects of chemotherapy is often awful, from hair loss to devastating sort of sickness to weight loss, so on and so forth. There is a risk benefit calculation that goes into the approval and prescription of those drugs. If we are in a fight to save your life, we are going to tolerate some safety issues, some quality of life issues because there's a lot at stake. Now, we would never apply that same risk benefit to a treatment for a common cold. For example, we can't treat a common cold, which we could, we might be having more luck for coronavirus, but there are certainly some drugs out there that can help you with the symptoms of a snotty nose, of a sore throat. We would not tolerate any safety issues from those sorts of drugs. Why? Because the risk of the cold is low. Few people are going to have any more serious issues than some pretty unpleasant symptoms for a few days. So it all comes down to that risk benefit. The benefit of chemotherapy is we can save your life, so we tolerate higher risks. The benefit of a common cold drug is a little more comfort for a few days. We aren't going to expose you to any additional safety risks. And so I thought that might be a really good way just to sort of round our conversation of decision making in healthcare and why and how we might tolerate safety risks to an individual. And so Dina and I are going to be handing off to each other. I'm going to talk briefly before I hand back to Dina about sort of biomedical ethics. This is a huge topic, an emerging and important topic. And certainly I'm not an expert, but there are some themes that we should all be aware of. And there is some groundwork that we should have a common understanding of before we think about how digital effects help them. So for a healthcare practice to be considered ethical, it has to sort of reflect four principles. The first is autonomy, where individuals have autonomy of thought and intention when they're making decisions. And a really good example of this is in the informed consent process. So if you're entering into a search, you need to know all of the risks and potential benefits and you need to truly understand them. And then you're asked to provide a written consent. This is also the same for anyone who's had surgery, for example. You always have an informed consent before you go into surgery. You need to know the risks and you need to knowingly opt in to participating in healthcare. Justice, I think, is really important. It helps us think about the burdens and benefits being distributed equally. So let's think about that in the context of digital. Let's think about if we start to implement the use of these biometric monitoring technologies, are we ensuring justice for folks who don't have access to broadband? Are we ensuring justice for folks who can't purchase them out of their own pocket? And then how about, you know, when we start to do research using these things, if we find great outcomes using digital technologies, can those be broadly applied to the full population if we aren't able to get everyone access to these tools? Beneficence, which is a word I often stumble over. So I nailed it today. That's like a sort of net good and a bit of a sore point for me right now. The intent of doing good for the individuals and populations involved. So for example, wear your mask during COVID, that is a nice move there. It's a pretty sensible no brainer, in my opinion, at least. And then the last one, crikey, another one I often stumble over, non maleficence doesn't harm the individual or others in society. And this goes back to that really important principle of harm in the context of benefit.  And we always have to think about context. Again, there are some examples from COVID, I'm sure, sort of come quickly to mine for folks. And the way this is codified in the training of positions, at least, is the Hippocratic Oath. So all graduating positions, where the Hippocratic Oath, when they finally get done with and declare victory on their passage through medical school. What's important to know about the Hippocratic Oath is it never actually says, but first do no harm. That is not present in the Hippocratic Oath. And I think I'm going to probably bore everyone, but it's really important. It comes back to this idea of risk benefit. And that's codified in the Hippocratic Oath. It's much closer to the ethical principles than it is first do no harm. And something we follow at the Digital Medicine Society, and something I know that Dina and I talk about often, is the great work done by iron recovery. Members of this community have really thought carefully about the new risks of associated with security when we're starting to use connected devices, either for monitoring or for healthcare intervention. And what we'll talk a little bit about today is if this community has extrapolated a vision for harm and a risk benefit analysis to include security considerations, what are the other considerations that we need to be thinking about as we move into this digital era of healthcare? And with that, Dina, I'll hand it back to you. Thanks, Jen. I'm going to dive right into Health Policy 101, where we're going to start first by explaining the difference between privacy and data rights, so we don't lose anybody from the top. What we've always thought about is privacy tended to be something as a yes or no. Can you have this information? Yes, you can have it, no you can't have it. But as we get further into data rights and data governance, we start to realize that the question isn't as much yes or no, but it's more about context and who. So when we talk about data rights as opposed to privacy, the choice to share or not to share our data is context-specific and varied by the individual. A woman may feel comfortable having her reproductive health lab share information with her partner or her healthcare provider. She probably won't feel comfortable having that information shared with her boss, or maybe she will. Maybe that's something that should be up to her. And so that's why we're moving the conversation from one that uses the word privacy to one that's talking about data rights. As it is, our healthcare system has strong protections for patients' biospecimens like blood or glucose data, but protection for our mercury when it comes to digital specimens. The same can be said of data created by health apps, fitness trackers, and all the other kinds of biomass that we're talking about today.  But in the modern era, data rights have become a safety issue that can't be on the body. The digital health information that folks generate may threaten both their health and their financial welfare. And that's why we think it's so important that we're talking about it today. In the United States, legal protections are limited for data rights. US laws do not have explicit regulations that give consumers full control over how their data is collected, used, or shared. There also really aren't rules about when we have to delete that information and what exactly that means. Instead, data rights are limited to a patchwork of protection, which is basically a combination of a HIPAA privacy rule, which was never intended to be a comprehensive health privacy law. The FTC Act, Section 5, which was drafted a long time before biomass came around, and state laws, which are effectively the ultimate patchwork protection for consumers because you really don't know what protections you have, unless you're a legal expert or an extremely well-informed consumer. So now we're moving on to redefining safety in the digital era. And first, I'm going to give a kind of broad description of all the different safety issues that Jen and I are concerned about. We've seen enough headlines to know that there's a problem with how our data is being collected, used, and shared. When we see headlines like these, for many of us, it feels wrong, it feels gross. Jen and I want to explore that feeling and have more technologists, clinicians, lawmakers, and the public talking about why this feels wrong. The answer, if that feels wrong, because it's not safe. Women's jobs are not safe when their employer has access to their pregnancy information or plan to become pregnant. We're not safe when our insurer makes life or death decisions about our access to care based on data that may not even be right. In this section of the talk, Jen and I will walk you through a handful of data risks and related harms, not to say the technology is bad or should be avoided, but to start the conversation around data rights as an issue of patient safety. Connected health technologies have the power to do more than embarrass. The data it creates can impact how individuals experience day-to-day living and the world around them. When you share information, either passively or actively, you create information about yourself. One key way that data is used is by data brokers or data aggregators. Certainly not all data manipulation accomplished by data aggregators is harmful. However, data packets as a sort of health score can affect individual access to insurance while the algorithms behind those scores are hidden and could include inaccurate information. Now some of you may be thinking in your head that the Affordable Care Act means that these scores don't affect our access to insurance, but that's really only limited to health insurance. When you think about all the different ways that a person might want to financially protect themselves or their family, that includes life insurance, disability insurance, and long-term care insurance name a few. And all of those are allowed to use information created by these data aggregators. For decades we've allowed insurers to determine our access to insurance based on genuine medical information. Now assumptions based on unconsented data from opaque algorithms are changing how traditional underwriting is done, making it challenging for some to purchase insurance at a price that they can afford or even being denied insurance at all. Identity data can also impact lending and housing decisions. Studies from the American University Center for Digital Democracy and the National Bureau of Economic Research both report that consumer health data can be combined by data aggregators and used to profile and discriminate in the context of employment, education, insurance, social services, criminal justice, and finance. Clinicians and researchers may not be aware of how digital data can result in discrimination in these areas. Neither may you. But the type of data manipulation that done but this type of data manipulation can be done as a proxy to circumvent the U.S. Equal Credit Opportunities Act and it's not something that's going to be done transparently. However, it happens and that's a serious safety risk that we should all be aware of and consider. Additionally, geolocation information can be used for surveillance. Wearables that measure physical activity use technology that identify an individual's precise movements. While the data is rich information for legitimate use, it can also be used for surveillance and this is particularly problematic for people of color who are disproportionately the subject of undisclosed surveillance, data collection, and monitoring. There's other ways of course that even well intended technology can cause tangible harm to users. Have you ever had that trouble falling asleep, trying to relax into rest and all you can think about is the fact that you can't fall asleep?  Now imagine an insomniac using a sleep sensor to address sleep issues who, instead of getting helpful data and perhaps better rest, instead spent the night anxious and losing sleep over sleep data and ended up worse than they started. There's actually a term for this kind of harm. It's called othosomnia and I'm pretty excited I just pronounced it right. Technology can also cause clinical harm. Known as eiatrogenic harm, this type of injury can occur when errors in the data collection by biomets goes unnoticed. And finally, I'll point out that the use of technology in a trial can inadvertently skew results. How participants are recruited over technology can be deeply problematic, as can be technology used as an incentive to participate in a trial. Similarly, deploying technology that cannot measure all participants with equal accuracy will skew data results, even if it appears as if there's an appropriate sample miss. And finally here, some people, including former president candidate Andrew Yang, think that solutions to tech companies profiting off of individual data and collecting and sharing it freely, it to make that data cost something and give individuals a cut of the money. While that does play into the idea of data rights and giving individual control, this practice, which is commonly called digital dividend, for data rights like advocates like me, this amounts to pay for privacy. Survey after survey shows that consumers want more control over their private information and they don't want their information monetized. Yet ideas like this keep coming up. When digital dividends was on the docket in Oregon in 2019 and I was serving as senior policy counsel for consumer reports, I wrote to lawmakers on behalf of consumer reports to explain why we oppose such a bill. In essence, data dividend turned the basic right of privacy into a luxury out of reach for lower income individuals. Further, those who sell their data would receive compensation for something that can't realistically be appraised or is lost fully reimbursed. Now I'm going to turn it to Jen, who can have a think more about the safety risks with data rights. Fantastic. Thanks, Dina. I think in terms of recognizing the broad swath of risks associated with data rights and safety, I always turn to you as the expert on this. I appreciate you taking the lead there. I want to talk about some of the other principles that we touched on, too. I think a lot about equity and access. I've got two graphs up here on the screen.  The one on the left is from the Dartmouth Atlas of Health. This is an example of a specific health outcome. Red is good. In this case, that means that individuals with diabetes are actually getting the necessary vision screening to make sure that their diabetes doesn't actually lead to vision impairment and ultimately blindness. We can see up there in New England, they're doing a great job and in certain areas of the Midwest. Dark green colour is where that screening is not happening at all. Individuals with diabetes are not getting high quality care. On the right-hand side, you can see a map of households without internet. There, it's the red colour that's showing that there is not great internet access and blue that there is. Let's think about there's a really interesting new product on the market for the IDXDR, which is a tool that doesn't require a position. It's a simple camera. It takes a picture of your retina and it looks to see whether diabetes patients are struggling with imminent risk of their vision. If we're relying on the internet to administer that, we can see that in New England already, they have great outcomes and that's the place with some of the best internet. Yet, if you look at Texas, they're suffering with some really poor health outcomes and most of those households don't have internet. I come back to this idea of, are we going to use these digital tools to ameliorate some of the disparities in access to care, some of the disparities in health outcomes or are we going to, unfortunately, widen that gap between the healthy and the sick, between the rich and the poor? That's something that we have to keep front of mind and I would argue is a safety issue. We also intentionally, because otherwise I think it gets overwhelming very quickly, focused on violence, but I do want to draw attention to the fact that this digital era of health goes well beyond those remote monitoring technologies that rely on those in the fixed point or wearable sensors. There's been instances of using sort of care decision tools that were actually incorporating bias into care outreach. There have been other instances where we're actually defining whole new tracks of data as being important to health and I'll give you an example. There was this phenomenal study that was done by some researchers at Microsoft. 15% of pancreatic cancer patients can be identified by nothing more than their web searches. Dean has summarized the pretty loose and pretty narrow privacy regulations. Certainly nothing extends to your browser history. Let's think about how this plays out. This is phenomenal if we think about your only hope in beating pancreatic cancer, being an early diagnosis. If we can harness that information, this is a huge win. It's great for saving lives. But let's think back to some of the examples that Dean has shared with us. What if instead of this information going to your doctor or someone who would reach out to you to say, hey, I think you're at risk and I think we can save your life if we act now? What if instead it goes to an employment agency? What if instead it goes to a life insurance company? What if instead it goes to a mortgage lender? There is the possibility here of phenomenal improvements in the way that we care for humans and the cost at which we do it. There is also really quite terrifying risk about how we use this information and the harms that individuals could suffer. I have a bit of a flare for the dramatic and I'm very willing to cop to that one. But I don't think it's an overstatement to think about these violence and in fact digital health writ large. Are we going to recognize that or are we going to use it as a tool? Are we going to use it as a way to do low cost outreach to deliver personalized medicine to be as inclusive as we ever have been in the history of health care or are and hopefully better or are we going to use it to double down on the surveillance economy? Are we going to use it to increase the disparities in care across different races, across different socioeconomic status? I think that means in order to address this, we one have to be very intentional and two, as we discussed, we really do need to think about a new definition of the patient safety in the digital area. The definition of patient safety that the World Health Organization has proposed is up here on your screen. It's a lot of text, but what you can see is we're thinking mostly about the absence of preventable harm, reducing risk wherever possible, and collective notions given current knowledge, resources available and the context of care. So in fact, when we talk about redefining patient safety, I think this definition holds up quite well. What we really need to do and what was done very well by the Hippocratic Code, the Connected Medical Devices and I am cavalry is thinking about what is given current knowledge? What are our resources available and what is the context of care? As we move from data in a manila folder in a file cabinet delivered in a healthcare environment to the use of these biometrics, the use of search histories, the dependence on the internet to get information and to administer cures, how do we use our current knowledge about the risks? How do we use the resources available and how do we think about the context of care being now 24 seven because it's tracking your Google searches because it's tracking your smartwatch? It's not necessarily that this definition needs to change, but we need to think about how we advance what we know in this community about harms due to connectivity to the internet. And we'd love to learn from you guys during the Q&A about your thoughts, your ideas and any feedback on anything we've missed and how we can advance this agenda to sort of saving lives to reducing preventable harms as we move into this digital era of house. Thank you so much. And Dina, thank you for being such a wonderful co-presenter. I look forward to some great discussion. Thank you. It's been great.


Things are getting connected even nowadays and even more in future because the Internet is getting becoming Internet of Actions with robots, drugs, and driverless cars, etc. So we feel Internet is becoming Internet of Actions to provide services at the offline, so we call it Internet of Actions. So cyber security is not really limited to the cyber space mainly. It will be extended to the physical space with much more advanced security threats. So much more advanced security solutions should be considered. For example, quantum key distribution, also quantum random number generator, because we think there will be much advanced security threats when the quantum computing is available. So when quantum computing is available, all security measures based on mathematical solutions will be broken with quantum computing, so much future-proof technology should be considered to provide actual future-proof security solutions such as quantum key distribution and quantum random number generator.


So, I think we'll go ahead, it's about five minutes late, that's, when do you start church? The service? We have many beginnings. Right on? Rocking hair test. Well, it's delightful to be here. Pong City is one of the sort of genius features of Montpelier and obviously Kellogg Hubbard Library does an incredible job of putting it together, but I think they also got clever or smart or whatever this year by doing a kind of open source and allowing people to bring projects or events to them, which is a great way of doing it, because I think they used to organize them and then somebody would complain, well, you choose me for anything, you know, or whatever. But they've done a great job and I think it's worked really well. Is that your feeling about it? I think people have been having a good time making connections. Yeah. I think people are meeting new people and talking about poetry and that seems great. Yeah, that's great. And Joan, we're delightful, delighted to be here. Thank you so much for allowing us to partner with the church. I have to say, as a congregational minister for years, my parishioners all suspected I was a Unitarian and they were pretty much right. That's my daughter and many of my grandchildren. And so this feels like very at home. I'd like to give a shout out to the library, Kellogg Hubbard Library, because there was a really good article in Tell Me the Bridge. Yeah, yeah. Really a couple page spread on the purpose and the offerings of poetry. So I think that was a great idea. So I think we're small enough for, let's just quickly introduce ourselves. Because this is a workshop type format and I'd love to do that. I'm George Long in our car, middle sex. And he's a poet. And a poet of poetry. A half Susan Sassman, also from middle sex, got her spouse and I'm like a poet appreciator. I'm Laura Goessler, also from middle sex. Wow. Interesting. We live on Culver Hill Road. I'm a retired UVM librarian and a beginning sort of aspiring poet. Right, your poet. Yeah, great. Wonderful. Hi, my name's Margaret. I actually live a bit south in Barnard, Vermont. Oh, great. And it's just, I actually just rented an office though in Montpelier. And I just kind of was looking for things to do and people to meet and see what it's like. And I enjoy poetry and spiritual things as well. Can you say your name again? Margaret. Thank you. I'm Sandra. I live in Montpelier. And I think poetry month is wonderful. Great. I'm Vita. I live in Worcester. And somebody said at a workshop that I can have a last week of reading that Sam read out that she was a closet poet. And I think it probably just describes me. I've been writing poetry since I was six. Well, you've got at least a foot out of the closet. But anyway, I'm looking forward to this and really happy to leave all of you. I'm Sam Stock, I'm a poet and a teacher at CCV. And a city councilor in Mary City. And just one re-election to the city councilor in Mary. I'm Casual Higgins. I'm a scholars' grandchild. I'm Ryan Higgins. I'm also a scholar here. Emily Higgins. And we all live in Waterbury. Gaia, currently from East Montpelier and also a poet. I'm Rocky. I live in Montpelier and was drawn in by the invitation to look at wonder as a marginalized experience. I'm Joan Javier Duval. I live in Montpelier and I'm the minister of this church. I'm really glad to have this workshop happening here. If you weren't going to, would you say a word about this person? Yes, about her recording. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah, I'm Finn Cook from Montpelier. I work for Orca Media. And I will be recording this wonderful meeting here. Great. And if anybody has any concerns about that? Just to be clear for everyone, to be posted on Orca Media. Okay. So it's, I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, I think, and I don't think there's any, and in a sense I maybe hope there isn't any really structured way that we think about wonder or awe. We could use that word just as well. And there is somebody who's out now talking about awe and got interviewed by Krista Tippett and the eight kinds of awe and stuff like that. I'm not going to do that. But that's not what I'm doing or here to do. Although it's useful. One of the things that this person does talk about is there are various vehicles through which we experience something that opens us up to something bigger than ourselves and somehow also grounds us in the sense of, oh, that's who I am. That's what I am. That's the way I want the world to be. And those are really the features of it that seem to me what I'd like to have a chance to talk with people about today. And I do think it's marginalized and channelized. Forgive me if this is offensive to anyone, but sometimes the Christian church has taken those mystical experiences and kind of standardized them. Okay, this is a conversion experience. And once you have this experience, you have come to the Lord and now you believe everything that the church says you should believe. And it's sort of like an access through that opening into something that's a little bit more restrictive and channelized or sometimes very restrictive and channelized. So the experience of wonder, we don't know how to deal with it. We don't think that we control it in the sense that, okay, Thursday morning I'm going to have this mystical experience or this great insight. So what I've done is just pick a bunch of poems, really just kind of a super, well not superficial, but just a quick run through my file of special poems. And so if anybody wants to read one of these at some point during the time that we're doing the readings, we can do that if you haven't brought something of your own. There we go. But I wanted to read the first one, which just by Derek Wolcott who was born and raised in St. Lucia and in Trinidad and then taught for years at Boston and Montenegro. But love after love, it's sort of somewhere in your pocket. Which packet's the love of body? No, I'm sorry, in the other one, the other. Second to the last page. The second to the last page, yes. And would anyone like to read it? I'd read it. Okay. Okay. Love after love, Derek Wolcott. The time will come when with elation, you will greet yourself arriving at your own door in your own mirror and each will smile at the other's welcome. And say, sit here, eat. You will love again the stranger who was yourself. Give wine, give bread, give back your heart to itself, to the stranger who has loved you.  Take down the love letters from the bookshelf, the photographs, the desperate notes. Peel your own image from the mirror, sit, feast on your life. So one of the aspects of this is that poems about wonder usually just be a puddle of tears or often do that because there is some kind of trigger of, for me I think I describe it as recognition. It's like, oh, that's. And I think there's an element that I would call contradiction in wonder and that the experience of wonder contradicts our normal experience by opening up something that feels real in a way that ordinary life doesn't. And it contradicts that despair, the grumpiness, the horrible news, the pandemic, whatever, but it sort of says, oh no, there's something different. And the contradiction is in part where, for me, the emotions come forward. I'm going to tell the story of it. We watch, Susan gets me occasionally to watch The Finding Your Roots with, I mean, the cyst at this point in my life or any name of anything. And he had Angela Davis on and he did this interview, you know, but if you add, I don't know whether anybody has seen it, but he does this interview with. Basically, he tells the story of someone's life to them and reveals it in the, in this book that he's prepared for that. You wanted to say your name? My name is Sarah Bergeri. I apologize for being with you. Great to have you. And Angela Davis, you know, who we all knew as kids is, you know, wonderful, but very often very angry, radical. He discovers that one of the white men who, you know, probably forcibly had a relationship with an ancestor of hers, entitles her to be qualified for the daughters of the American Revolution. And for me, that was an amazing, and she smiled, she struggled, she said, oh my God. And then she said, I don't know, but my sense is that she said in a sense, okay, I'll take that. And then there's this way that she claimed, you know, her whole history and said, okay, that's a part of it. And it was, that was a moment for me of what I would call wonder. Anyway, that's a lot. Any comments or thoughts about, yeah, go ahead. For me, it was looking in my bathroom mirror. Yeah. I'm 81, and I was struggling when I turned 80. Uh-huh. I've got that coming up, so I'm waiting. You know, it was weird to be the same age as old people. That's not my life. I don't know where that's from, but it's a great life. But anyway, my grandmother would come to the bathroom every morning in that big mirror, well-lit. And I would just look at her, and I'm like, what? Because I look so much like her, that I didn't realize I looked like her. But suddenly I'm 80, and 81, and I'm her. You know, all the, anyway. And it was just, now it's wonder. Now it's like accepting. It was a journey to get there, but she kept showing up every morning. And I was like, Effie, come on. And this poem has the mirror in it too, right? Yeah, so that was big. So that's a great story. So the other thing I think I want to say is, this is, poetry doesn't have any monopoly on wonder. What I am saying is, I think it's actually a very useful way of finding access to it, and maybe an openness to it that some of the other modes of communication we get don't offer. I would say there are others. Music can turn you into a puddle, and the right words, and the right song, or just the right notes can do exactly the same. So there's no monopoly to poetry. But what I wanted to do is talk about poetry as one access to it. This is not about poetry and wonder equal each other, or this is the only way to get there, but it is sort of what we're looking at today. So the other thing I want to talk about briefly is that, as I've said, wonder gets used in different ways and gets abused or denied in different ways. So I wanted to read a couple of poems about my experience growing up as a pre-choice kid, as a minister, and then as someone who left the news. So that's sort of what I'm doing. I'm still going to do a little bit of that. Hope it's not too much, and we can stop after each poem and people can ask. So I'm going to start by reading Beloved Body. Our second spring in Hardwick, I was 16 and lusting hopelessly after Jackie LaCour. I wasn't supposed to fall in love with a Catholic because they'd make you raise your children for the Pope, my father said. So when I offered half joking, full of hope, to give back her pictures if she paid for each one with a kiss. And she said, yes, without hesitation, I panicked and sent them to her in the name. Every Sunday my father stood in the confidence of his black robe, poured the unction of his words over the congregation. I watched from the choir faces like familiar rocks along a shore, part waiting for, part submitting to the tide. His determined giving began three years before after the fire claimed our home. He started preaching like his father, steadily got mushroomed in our family, finally moving in like a determined aunt who used to visit only occasionally, but now had come to set things right. It was a weekend in that second spring. I was in the house alone. I woke, senses quickened, heart thrilled with an astonishing, astonished patience.  I knew for the first time I am at home in this beloved body. Knowledge, not insistence. Even sadness ruckled. My mind filled with promises, hands restless to rest, to bless. It stayed for days, still echoes. No name for such amazement so I called it love, clothed it in a white robe called conversion, which is the only category I had for whatever had happened to me. I don't remember the pictures clearly or how I got them black and white snapshots of girls I knew clowning at a slumber party. Jackie stopped me in the hall at school standing close to thank me for them. She smiled, said she wanted to be friends. Suddenly there was no danger. Taste of her lips, shape of her breasts went with her as she left. I began to think I could survive under cover of goodness. I felt the holy promiscuity of saints, a yielding, terrible and all-consuming that's both delight and subtle flight. That summer she went out with Anila May. It seemed like power to take fear, train it to be generous. They seemed to love me for it. It felt pure. I needed something pure. I never thought of it as sacrifice. For the first time I could taste the metallic residues of one. I don't know, it's sort of a complicated poem, but it's about how that experience for me, it was too big for me. I didn't know what to do with it. I didn't know how it fit into my life. Part of what I did was turn it into being a good person. And that seemed like a good way to survive in that environment. And I don't think there's a lot of virtue in that, although it's probably a better choice than some. But it did end up let somehow losing some kind of connection. And that's the only thing that I talk about. Any thoughts or anybody? Can you talk about the transformation of that experience into the poem that you shared? I think the way the poetry works for me, poetry is the way I process. So I wrote this poem originally, this poem is titled Conversion. And then I said, no it's not about conversion, it's about wonder. So it's a later life process of going back to an experience and reinterpreting it and doing it within the years that I've been working on this poem, which are not as many, it's quite a few, but not as many as my whole life. I don't know whether that's responsive. Do you talk about some of the structural choices you made in the poem? The poem was once much more structured and I broke it up, but that's something I've been doing with all my poems. Sort of, I'm giving up on commas, semicolons, you know. You go. We have line breaks and gaps, and I like capital letters and periods. So they're okay, they work alright. And then the placement tries to be open to just the rhythm of the thought and the language. Though I noticed for the first time in your reading this that the pauses were in different places than the flow of the reading. So just to notice that. So then I went off and went to seminary and got married and became a minister and was a minister for years. And this is a poem that there are many other poems in between which we will not inflict on you today. And this is called Comforter. And this is after I had rather dramatically left the ministry, left my marriage, didn't really leave my kids, but I think it felt like that for a long time. And this is called Comforter. And I was in a relationship with Susan. Across route 100 from the yellow barn and outbuildings that were once the dairy farm for the state psychiatric hospital, a cedar hedge guards Waterbury's graveyard. And I think now I clear it's the Catholic graveyard. I think the sign says that. I ask you to stop the car. It's midwinter, but I imagine a cluster of family and separated by the open grave, the one who by profession offers comfort. It's the moment after the last words have been said, the men who waited a distance leaning against the pickup truck, smoking cigarettes, shift at this pause, watch the living have a way. Their longhandled shovels can begin their work. I watch as they watch for my own distance. Every time I hoped the loveliness of grief might heal me, the sudden tumult of children's tears, old men crying with the ungainliness of buildings coming down. I held the fine tool of the ceremony in my hands, asking without asking. They left me with silence, taking their lives back home. Two, I remember the summer when this farm was still making milk for the hospital, thick cream for coffee, and work for the inmates. I was an intern anxious to help the unfortunate. What I learned was how to change bedclothes for the dying, to clean excrement gently from the folds of unsure wealth. One night on the admissions ward, I held a glass of water toward a man with eyes too wild ever to see. I learned to be almost good enough to quiet those wild eyes, to help the hand breach from its darkness toward the glass. And I learned the quiet bargain of insistent goodness, how it can only think of leaving when it believes its work is done. Yesterday, a streak of winter sun crept across our bed, I lay down in that sun and called to you from somewhere, you came and touched me. So that's about... It's a phenomenon that I don't think is familiar to everyone, but I think a lot of human service people end clergy like the insistent giving the giving yourself almost away and somehow losing yourself and just trying to come to terms with that and find that when I left the ministry, I suddenly could feel sadness. And I dealt with grief all the time, but I could feel sadness in a whole different way. The kind of priests who aren't allowed to marry or have relationships. It's difficult for me. Maybe if somebody chooses that, or chooses more open relationships or something like that, but yeah, it's very hard. I liked the phrase you used. The phrase you use that clergy and others who offer assistance often find themselves giving themselves away too much that they don't know themselves. Is that what you want to say? That's exactly right. It sort of goes back to that hint of the metallic taste even when I was a kid, when I started figuring out how to do this as a survival mechanism.  If you were constantly to feel that level of empathy and grief that you're trying to console people with in your role as a caregiver, it's kind of, well, I can look at the clergy around here. It's hard to maintain that level of intensity all the time. So I guess it kind of speaks to that question of still looking for yourself while giving yourself away. You can't stand up there and cry during the service. You're not welcome to ask. Or you can. You can. Wonderful respect. Wonderful. I did this more. Good for you. So, you know, we're working on it. I think you can do that kind of work and not give yourself away. I actually have boundaries that keep you sort of honest. And I'm not trying to make a general statement about public service or, you know, deep caring or professional helping relationships I'm talking about. But what I want to ask is for me, was where did the wonder go in this, you know, that experience of wholeness. So I have more. Were you going to say? No. I was raised Catholic. Well, I was raised Catholic. So it's kind of fun. It's just fun to be listening to. So what does it feel like? Oh, I don't know. I think the fall doesn't give me a lot of, there's so much ritual. For example, now I do spiritual healing and I work with ritual a lot still. So I think it instills that in me. I think there's a lot of problems. I don't go to church anymore as a Catholic. I also can't handle things like humanitarian services. I'm like, this is coffee hour. You know, like, you know, bringing in all the children stuff. So absolutely. And I hope the stuff about my father, you know what I'm saying. The rampant anti-Catholic stuff. And it did go both ways. But it was definitely Protestant judgment of Catholicism. And I didn't mean that to be a recording of some kind of truth. My family upbringing. Yeah. I'd suggest maybe just read either when we talk with God or Poem of the World. Yeah, I'm not going to read all of this yet. So, I'm going to read the Poem of the World, which, you know, we'll get back to that. This is a poem I've worked on again and again and again. This, I think, is sort of the clearest statement of where that sense of wonder has evolved into something that is almost a daily experience. So that's what I... Maybe that's where it wants to go and what it should be. I'm not telling anybody what it should be. The Poem of the World reveals itself like a dose of tapping ice till she can drink. Startles like a rust of purple on this falls for Cynthia Leaves, though it may have used that small voice every year unheard. Blinks like red and blue potatoes dug this morning drying in the sun, testing their startled, untrained eyes. It's the unexpected tickle, the fit of shared laughter in our urgency of touching that becomes another way of making love. It's an ocean beach of pebbles that suddenly starts singing each stone its own tink together, a glorious, indifferent song. And it's the voice of each bird I have only heard as morning chorus, landing with its own song and bright, perfect body in my brain. It is even, now I begin to see them, the subtraction of birds, taking summer with them too busy to announce they're leaving. The poem of the world wants me to wake in my own body. It is astonished I might let these supple bones grow brittle. It is the sudden thing I trust. So, that's it, the other poems are there we can get to them, but I do want time for people to share. So, thoughts at this point? I'm still thinking about a minister's comic and that's like, what? That's just so different the way I was raised. It would have been nice to sit in that church. Yeah, yeah. Scatter something I've noticed in the poems you shared is how embodied they are and how I think for me, wonder and awe and I was raised Catholic had a much more disembodied kind of quality. And even though like, I think Catholicism and even Christianity is like what a fleshy religion literally of the flesh focused on this person. However, wonder and awe as an embodied kind of emotion and quality something that for me came later in life. But it's so alive in your poems just how incarnated they are. And like in the last poem the part of it that actually struck me the most was about just the detail of holding the glass of water toward the man and the eyes. And so I just really appreciate how this role and embodied your communication and expression of wonders. I do think Christianity often purports to be about the flesh about our bodies and our presence and our humanity. But it also rigorously abstracts and virtue becomes not the details of connecting and being intimate but some abstraction about what's good. And I won't speak for other traditions. I think Mary to someone who's Jewish I find Susan's sense of family healing and restorative to me in that sense of intimacy and history and cherishing ancestors and stuff. I wasn't raised to be good at that. I have a number of these poems here but do people anyone who's brought something that they'd like to share that sort of expresses their sense of wonder or you can just tell stories too. I don't know if this is really a poem but it does raise a couple questions for me. And you'll see what they are in just a moment. This is something Vermonters can relate to it's called Birches.  Birches. If you want to close your eyes just for a second the sun catches the birches even for a moment that drab winter day just melts away their paper bark a canvas for your thoughts and visions here in this darkest time of year branches gleaming white dazzling bright in contrast to her neighbors whose stalwart evergreen spikes last throughout the year and deck our halls with Christmas cheer. Stop here it's a haiku or go on. Along with our thoughts powered outage from the storm deep reflection brings protection remembering what we've heard from those who know the word pure silence within we begin again freed of expectations we make new relations with ourselves and those we value regardless of where they are what culture they represent fellow creatures worthy of respect then bird flies by above the tree interrupting reverie. So the question is was I better off stopping at the haiku point which was way up there or was it helpful to get to the end and so that was one question so I'll stop right there. And there's obviously a correct answer. Really I guess depends so right but in your experience as poets anybody? Just sort of I like that you had us close our eyes it was easy to get lost in the sounds and the rhyming I would like to see it written I think that would help me. Yeah it would be interesting to juxtapose those two experiences but I love the cadence of your reading as well. And that's actually my other question is that I tend to write on my phone and then it goes fast and then I'm like well that's so fast and everybody keeps giving me books that are empty pages for telling me to write down and I don't have time so I guess that's the question.  It is so fast and I can edit it so quickly so I don't know that's probably my second question. I really like that you had embedded a haiku in another poem. I thought it was a poem. That wasn't intentional it was really me saying hey should I stop here? I think it's nice that it keeps going. It's like Tonkas that has a haiku at the end except here's a second beginning. Right. There's a Megan O'Rourke poem that when I first read it I gasped at the ending like you know I read a lot of poetry it doesn't happen that often. I thought it was an incredible she does this incredible shift at the end I was trying to find it well that's not going to work because I can't remember the title. Megan O'Rourke is her first book Half Life and there's a poem midway in Half Life that just went It was such an extraordinary revelation the way she shifted in that poem because I also think I worked a lot in human services which I have to say was pretty traumatizing but I was you know mostly it was grim and all the statistics about you know if you grow up in poverty and your father has a drug problem and you know all these things okay it'll affect your future in this way but so I teach at CCB and I had this kid in my class well he's not a young adult in my class and he was talking we'd like to change your perspective he was talking about his his experience being in foster care and I thought that's a really familiar story I think I must have known him when he was young and sure enough so what was great was that you know the likelihood of you being in foster care and even making it through high school radically reduces right but here he was not only had he didn't make it through high school but now he's in college he got a place to live which is not easy he was getting help raising his family and I was just like that's wonderful that's about the human potential that you know you can lose if you read all the research you'll lose your wonder of what can happen in people's lives and I also want to say thinking about ministers are not supposed to cry teachers are not supposed to cry or smile and I used to teach in New York City and I was pretty good about the no crying but on September 11th the principal read this loudspeaker thing about people who had died like in our building and I cried and I was like what do you expect like don't do that in the middle of the school day so yeah teachers also human services and not supposed to show them options I was doing a workshop and I started talking about this family and I could feel a tear start and I thought let's back away from that one but it is hard you talked about wonder contradicts um and I think this is I think sometimes I think wonder can be marginalized because it contradicts and you're not supposed to cry and you're not supposed to smile and you're not supposed to um you have these big emotions in the context of our very formal systems that are supposed to perform the tasks um and even in listening to the poem about that that with the haiku it reminds me of my own experience of being in the woods and not being certain like well should I should I turn back now and go to the meeting should I stay out should I see what's over that next ridge and so the yeah um I'm really enjoying listening to these experiences that I've been sharing wonder is disruptive to systems and maybe there should be more wonder in our systems there's room for improvement but it also makes sense to me in a different way today why my own experiences of wonder were squelched like stop experiencing wonder we have places to go and stop asking me those difficult questions um um we have feelings that we need to manage that's the word we've managed the frost poem stopping by a woods on the snowy evening is a little bit I mean that may be why it kind of resonates as deeply as it does you know why so many people but I have promises to keep in my house to go before I sleep and Robert Frost also has a birches poem yeah oh he does yeah I was wondering yeah any others Susan? yeah I'm going to read a poem this is Grace Paley's posthumously published collection and I'm going to try to read it without crying because every time I read it I'll write it but you don't have to but I may not have to and it's a isn't sort of Sarah so this is called my sister and my grandson I've been talking to my sister she may not know she's been dust and ashes for the last two years I talk to her nearly every day I've been telling her about our new baby who is serious, comical, busy, dark my sister out of all the rubble and grit that is now her my sister mutters what about our old baby he was smart, loving, so beautiful yes yes I said listen just last week he stopped at just last week he stopped at my hallway door he saw your small Turkish rug he stared at it he fell to his knees his arms wide crying genie, oh my anti genie remembered her heart whisper came to me thank you Grace now speak to him tell him he's still my deepest love so it's interesting how it's nature it's human interactions it's all kinds of contexts but I think one aspect of it is it's almost all the specific for me it is it's the specific the generalizations usually don't get me unless they're really big enough well it's the surprise that's the surprise I mean that's what in that poem for me it's the surprise of the surprised connection that people have whether you're alive or dead or you know that's the wonder but to your point too about it being specifics it's like you're seeing things differently all of a sudden all of a sudden there's ordinary things you're seeing something different in them seeing them differently or something like that that brings on this sense of wonder that just maybe wasn't there in the moment before absolutely I see that in your poetry a fair amount other people yes Sarah you can go first what? my wife had a just recently a 100 year old great uncle not uncle but great uncle your grandmother's brother and just recently she's in her 70s it was a sense of wonder to have this person still living since she was a little kid so he sent out blowouts of people who had visited him during his 100th year and he put them back to date Cynthia and me and our dog and him have a good life and then soon after that his daughter Cynthia's second cousin called and said that he was starting to fade she said we'd better come over it was just over in New Hampshire so we got there he died 10 minutes before we got there and his grandson weeping his daughter was there and there was a sense of wonder that he was dead now he had just died that he had lived 100 years and done this fair well mainly not just to us but to many people that's interesting as far as almost unknowing other part of this person which is again quite amazing Sarah? I have two, they're very short and I should say I grew up in the northeast kingdom which has inspired a great appreciation of nature in a sense of wonder so the first one is short and the second one is a little longer and this is actually about East Hill Road we've got some middle sex people amphibian migration, Vermont headlights cut through twilight on a mud dirt road picking out wood frogs bellies bared towards home wet white prowls of small damp boats are sailing through the puddles stiff backed with hope that's almost tight I'm losing my prescription glasses in a lake in Vermont in August and sitting on an islet waiting for my cousin to canoe back with other prescription glasses the glass raft carrying my seeing sank bore all perception to the depths of the lake my double-crossed eyes are crooked turned away from sun's white flipper burn water skews up a flat-papered wall where snakily silver wavewoods crawl now the loons have looped three times since my second sight went down so I latch one lid and wait that's great I can't relate to both of them going well that feels very visceral yeah this is asking my son, my grandson, that I said what is the amphibian crossing? like, where is it? I have the papers for the first time today oh yeah if you're on front porch forum in many pounds in Vermont, you get the notices about any other poems? John, did you have anything you wanted to do? um no pressure? I wanted to read a book oh actually I was just thinking about wonder and talking about books who are the ministry teachers human services and how exhausting it certainly can be but I remember having done some human service work yourself oh of course my hope, yeah but I was thinking about the times that people that I was there to support to be the duper that brought me wondering there was a young woman she was around 19 who had never lived independently she lost her mother, her aunt and her grandmother in a horrible tragedy and her mother had actually been her guardian as well graduated from U-32 but never learned to read or write so she was really vulnerable anyway we were driving down the road and once again trying to find a home for her she started taking phone calls on herself from her mother who had just died this tragedy several days before and at first I was like no, this is crazy and then the sense of wonder came over me, my gosh she's talking with her mother and that is real and it was sometimes often as I got further on in the decades of my work I hoped for to be open to that and I hadn't ever thought of that until we discussed the wonder so sometimes it isn't and I think important to be open to the wonder of learning that we gain from that intimate connection with someone who has great need and to stay with that rather than think of ourselves as doing good right there's a line from Carole says if I should see a man coming towards me to do me good I should run as fast as I can I'm so really happy but I did bring out the poem of James Crews it's in the anthology of Home City and it's in pursuing a title awe and I did my homework I looked up in Webster the definition of wonder and awe and all that but anyway James does a much better awe it's a shiver that climbs the trellis of the spine each tingle of bright white morning glory breaking into blossom beneath the skin it can happen anywhere anytime even finding the sleeve of ice worn by a branch all morning now fallen on a bed of snow you can choose to pause pick it up hold the cold thing in your hand or not she would tell us that wonder and awe are decisions we make daily hourly minute by minute in the tiny offices of the heart tilting the head to look up at every tree turned into a chandelier by light striking ice in just the right way I thought that was an apt awe and totally what we've been talking about do you know where that's posted is that in the in the current Home City where's that posted I thought you'd take my grandson by that in the window where is it where is it actually posted in the store you can look them up James Cruz C-R-E-W-S and where is James the location is I can't I thought in that we can get but if you go on the website okay C-R-E-W-S thanks did you find it are there others James James she was one where it's physically posted you know it doesn't tell it doesn't find the website yeah um I'll share something I've noticed with a lot of what people share there's a lot of wonder and the transition between life and death family members there's 27 states dreaming go ahead yeah no I just think and they saw me I'm actually pregnant with my first baby and that's then seeing it on the ultrasound that was like oh my god like moving and like little being and it's like wow just really knocked me soft soft yeah and going with the discussion about specifics you can't get much more specific than that yeah so um I wanted to read one poem that's in this by Lucille Clifton who is just just astonishing where what or somebody else can be I'll read it cutting rooms curling them around I hold their bodies in obscene embrace thinking of everything but kinship collards and kale strain against each strange other away from my kiss making hand and the iron bed pot the pot is black the cutting board is black my hand and just for a minute the greens roll black under the knife and the kitchen twists dark on it's and I taste in my natural appetite the bond of live things everywhere what I love about this poem is her own experience of her own blackness and that is the way into the glory of the world and then the gift of sharing it in a poem so that not black you get to go there too you know and that just feels like that kind of opening that you know I don't know that doesn't happen a lot we don't we're not doing a lot of that we're not finding that kind of opening for each other and in each other so that's what blew me away about the poem and when I mentioned it Joan said this is one of your favorites I I think we have to close fairly soon I wanted to read one other so what I would say is all the things that make wonder seem exceptional or marginal or inaccessible bullshit it's what makes us a lot you know it's sort of the bedrock it's not it's not like this strange place you go to and I think about what do we need to survive you know the human destruction that we're we're all aware of and living with and it feels like it's more than goodwill it's more than it's not that it isn't these things but it's goodwill it's new strategies but it's so much more it's a shift much deeper and different than that and I suspect this has something to do with it so this poem I read is by William Meredith and it's called The Illiterate and I read this poem and then it hit me I liked it and then it hit me once and then it hit me again so I'm just going to offer that does somebody want to read this okay touching your goodness I am like a man who turns a letter over in his hand and you might think this was because the hand was unfamiliar but truth is the man has never had a letter from anyone and now he is both afraid of what it means and ashamed because he has no other means to find out what it says than to ask someone his uncle could have left the farm to him or his parents died before he sent them word or the dark girl changed and want him for love it afraid and letter proud he keeps it with him what would you call his feeling for the words that keep him rich and orphan and beloved it feels to me like this obviously that's the experience of someone who might be illiterate so at the surface level that's obvious but what struck me about the poem touching your goodness is what it starts with and so it's something about not knowing how to come to terms with someone else's goodness and being illiterate in some sense about that which just feels like a very good the man doesn't actually exist the man is in his imagination he's just like this character there's no actual illiterate person right and what it seems to me to me to be talking about is when I think about it in the context of what we're talking about with wonder that goodness that we encounter with wonder is like we don't know what to make of and I think we feel sometimes illiterate and we sort of hold the letter of experience and you never open it it says though awe and wonder are a highly suspicious act we don't trust it I have a sense that in our culture it's not so permissible to express wonder and awe where we are in this particular world right now so he grabbed it one with the beautiful beautiful and I think about Robin Walkimer and a tradition that's grounded in gratitude that's not really what my tradition is grounded in it's grounded in salvation from what? I struggle with that it's interesting our culture is afraid in many ways of in fact wonder and awe it doesn't know how to deal with it or quote somebody said manage it I thought that was well said but we also in some cultures especially the idiot savante the idiot savante that rain man and other cultures too there's this element of worship not worship is not quite the word but I don't know what the right word would be welcoming and honoring giving a special place to those that exhibit extraordinary qualities which we don't understand and can't really maybe accept it's quite interesting the whole savante idea in our culture some of this is touching on that on that level perhaps makes us uncomfortable that whole contrary this so any that we're really at our time and I thank everybody for being here any last final comments thank you very much thank you John for hosting this welcoming us here the fireplace without the fire is just the right has enough wood fires for this year


We obviously had a bit of a rough go of it this week Just as Nintendo fans in general, right? It was a partially exciting week because we finally got Nintendo's E3 plans confirmed 40 minute direct three Hours of epic treehouse goodness. I got to find the organize a bit of our E3 schedule and get that out to you guys as well I hope you're still planning to check us out during E3. We have a really big show going on But this isn't to talk about that I already did a dedicated video on that and obviously we'll have different announcements and stuff like that happening over the course of the next week Including who's gonna be getting opportunities to play against us for prizes during E3 Obviously, we could talk about more of the items that will be given away during E3, but That's either here nor there. What I want to focus on today is the week that was well All about that switch pro really I Am as Upset or disappointed or let down by the lack of a switch pro announcement as the rest of you and we need to talk about why we Expected a switch pro announcement this last week in the first place and then get into why well I mean honestly, I'm like you make some of you guys I'm still gonna be like holding my breath every day every hour of this next upcoming week and every day until It gets announced because I am someone who does believe the switch pro Actually exists. I don't think people like Takahashi Matsuzuki have just been lying for years He has sources at manufacturing That is something that obviously is a legit thing and then obviously there's game developer sources And we're getting some of that word from Tom Phillips a news editor at Eurogamer who you know responded to someone on Twitter Just yesterday saying hey a lot of the fervor around this is that he knows people that are actually making games for the switch pro or that are going to take advantage of the switch pro and They're kind of getting frustrated by the fact that Nintendo won't even release like a one-line Announcement about a new device so they could start showing their games running on it because they obviously Have information when of what when this device is going to come out which it sounds like this year So there is a bit of tepidation as well with the developers at least the ones that are planning to Release games on it and want to use this e3 marketing opportunity To do so and Takahashi Matsuzuki actually talked about that in his original Bloomberg report Where he mentioned that hey one of the reasons that he feels That there's a good chance it gets revealed before e3 is because third-party companies have put a little bit of pressure on Nintendo to reveal It now so they could actually talk about their games during the time when gamers are paying the most attention But obviously we know that Nintendo does beat to the beat of their own drum And if you think about prior announcements for other revisions and switch aka the switch light They did that on July 10th, and it was shadow dropped and nobody knew it was coming and yeah Takahashi Matsuzuki actually warned us that we were gonna get this device and people tried You know dig it up patents and all the shadows But nothing about the patents really lined up with what the device was and then everything that Takahashi Matsuzuki said The device was turned out to be true when it was revealed and he actually talked about that during June of 2019 about how Nintendo has this light device coming all all the you know how it's gonna be user Upgraded or a shrunk down SOC How it was going to you know have non detachable joy cons and it won't you won't be able to dock it and pretty much I gave us an idea what the form factor was gonna be like and how it was gonna be a little bit smaller and Turned out that he was completely right at all of it I think he even teased what colors were gonna be at launch and a lot of this came from manufacturing sources But also a couple developers that had access to it at the time Just because I don't really know why nothing in development really changed with this new device Maybe for battery life purposes because you know it did at the time have better battery life than the original switch Obviously they then move the SOC into the you know current You know normal version of switches and red box version which is what this is all these are third-party joy cons on here, but still We're left in this funny place where Takahashi machizuki set the table and he's such a trusted reliable source of information getting things from game developers and getting things From manufacturing sources in Japan That it kind of leads into this whole Kerfuffle around the switch pro because then Tom Phillips came out and backed up the reporting. They said Europe gamer has independently verified Exactly what Takahashi machizuki has been saying about the switch pro and he was the first person to actually use the words That it would be unveiled Eminently and that word Eminently is really what got the internet in a tizzy because Takahashi machizuki just said it's likely to be revealed Before e3 he didn't even guarantee it would be but obviously that was already getting people in a tizzy saying okay this past week Okay, next week in fact a lot of our base Expectations for it maybe even revealed next week is because Takahashi machizuki is such a reliable You know person a writer a researcher an editorial writer a news reporter for Bloomberg Previously Wall Street Journal is where as a prior element We're gonna have some big name places that there's still people that expect it next week just because of what he said Even though he never guaranteed it would be revealed before e3 He just knows that there's a lot of pressure on Nintendo for it and feels that it's likely to be revealed before that and again Tom Phillips used the word Eminently and that really just got the internet going and then all of course you had all the insiders Kind of hopping on this train Emily Rogers Reconfirming all this information as well also using the word imminent Then you had obviously That guy from the Xbox era podcast saying Thursday we have retailers getting some stuff up some of them fake some of them real About you know taking pre-orders. We have customer service lines right now doing really weird things So there's been all these reports coming out that oh Best Buy customer service is saying They'll be taking pre-orders on this day I'm June 18th was one date that was thrown on there on Amazon customer service rep said June 8th All these customer service reps by the way have no idea when these products are coming out If you wonder why I haven't made a video on this stuff event You know dozens of people send me all their DMs and personal conversations with these customer service reps I went out and started talking to these customer service reps as well and got very similar information Basically go to customer support on Amazon or Best Buy dot com etc And you do a little chat room with them and you ask them about the new Nintendo device And when it's going to be available pre-order and they eventually toss out a date And maybe it's because there is a date in their back end systems. I don't know what I do know is these are just You know bottom-rung people at these companies that might just also be giving you something so to leave you alone Or leave you satisfied so you give them a good review Uh, you know they actually have incentives to to maybe do that I'm not saying they're lying to you guys I'm just saying that is it really reliable when we're hearing different days, June 8th, June 18th I think I saw June 24th at one point and these are all for when they'll take pre-orders I honestly and I've subscribed to this until Takahashi Matsuzuki made his article That if it was going to come out around the same time the switch light did in September That it would be announced in July and if it's going to come out this holiday season Then it would be announced in September.   Any day is it possible that despite nintendo saying hey, there's going to be a focus on software That would actually make it even more shocking to unveil it at e3 Right, and I'm not even seeing that these things are going to happen I'm just throwing out there that we don't really know and As much as I've talked, you know over the last couple days where we all need to take responsibility for our own hype We need a hype responsibly Obviously, I've realized the role that I play in that and the role these insiders play in that the role that Takahashi machizuki and tom phillips and the media planet jason schreyer has actually gone out there and basically You know said hey, he knows that this thing is real as well. This isn't fake news. It's just kind of a hey, you know there's a lot of anticipation For one this thing's going to be unveiled not only by nintendo fans But by the developers that are touching on games and there has been some pressure put on nintendo to unveil it and nintendo is just Maybe concerned about unveiling it too soon Not because the system's not ready to show off because if it is going into mass production Which by the way, you don't have to believe emily rogers when she said oh, it's going into mass production now I mean heck takashi machizuki himself said by july it's going to go into mass production So she's kind of just regurgitating information that's already out there if you're if we're just honest about it So look if this thing is real, which i'm in the camp that it is I think you know especially when you set aside the the twitter leakers insiders Uh, you know people on reset era reddit doesn't really matter when you set them aside and you just focus on Okay, who are the people that would have contacts? Who are the people that it is their job to find out this information? Well, that's what you have takahashi machizuki tom phillips and jason schryer for and all of them agree even jeff grove agree This thing is real Okay, so the question is When is nintendo going to unveil it? And the reality is nobody knows Nobody actually knows nobody has heard from a nintendo representative when this thing's going to be Revealed and the frustrating part is that all these reporters out there are just going off of the information they have available Third party, you know people that are actually working on games You know have been saying that they feel like this thing is going to be revealed soon because they know around the time It's coming out, you know takahashi machizuki set the table for that september or october That could be revealed now Of course when they released in september last time, you know, they run veiled in july So if it's going to be in september one day unveil in july if it's going to be in october one day unveil in August You know, why would nintendo give us an even longer runway to release when it could actually hurt switch sales And i think that's what nintendo is ultimately worried about if this platform is coming out in september Why would they announce it before july if this platform is coming out in october? Why would they announce it before august if they announce it too soon it can actually kill hype remember nintendo's got games to sell They got systems to sell they got mario golf super rush coming out this month They got skyward sword hd coming out next month and as much as the hype would be built for this this thing We've been built for this anticipation and felt burned and burned and burned to the point that Many of us are just starting to be like hey, maybe this thing just isn't real We got to remember that A lot of our belief that this thing was coming soon started with takahashi machizuki Was exasperated by tom phillips and then obviously all these insiders You know kind of hopped on the train And obviously we as youtube content creators did the best that we could I don't know what more could be expected Setting aside all the insiders tom phillips said it's imminent Takahashi machizuki said it's likely to be revealed before e3 That was unknown enough for me to get hyped probably enough for you guys to get hyped as well So the question is what do we do moving forward? Well, we got to be patient You know, they say patience is a virtue and they say patience is a virtue for a reason because having patience is not easy I had to find it in myself to have patience for my three children every day I had to find her to myself to have patience at my work every day I had to find it in myself to sometimes have patience with my fiance when she's struggling with things I had to find it within myself That patience sometimes with my own youtube stuff We tried to do a live stream last night. We ended up streaming for a couple hours But I was so frustrated not just with the events of the day. I was frustrated with the equipment I'm frustrated the switch just fell Finding the patience to deal with the things in life that we can't control is hard And that's what we have to exercise right now with switch bro. Could it drop on monday? Yes Could it drop at e3? Yes Could it not be talked about till july? Yes Could it not be talked about until september or could it not be talked about till next year? All possible I'm fairly confident that this device exists I don't think takahashi machizuki would have been talking about it all this time if it didn't Anyone who's ever bet against takahashi machizuki's reports in the past has gotten burned So Yeah, it's probably real and we don't even need these people to confirm to us that it's real Just logically speaking look at what happened was something like the ds We got the ds light and then we got the more powerful dsi Look at the 3ds. There was the 2ds and obviously the new nintendo 3ds and 3ds xl All of those had different revisions smaller lighter more portable bigger beefier more powerful And like it or not no matter what nintendo calls a switch they refer to it as a home console Does this look like a home console to you? No, this looks like a tablet You know detachable controllers It's a portable gaming machine with a built-in kickstand That you happen to be able to set in a dock to use on your tv And yeah, it overclocks when you do that and yeah, it leads to better looking games and and all that jazz And yeah, it is kind of the idea of bringing home console games on the go And yeah, you know before this generation. It was unimaginable to be able to play a game like breath of the wild on the go Super mario odyssey on the go Splatoon 3 coming up on the go. It was unimaginable that this would even the witcher 3 I get it But also It's mobile technology Much higher chance and and if you're wondering well Okay, how do we know they're going to give it that kind of treatment in comparison to the handhelds? Well, what was one thing they did with the handhelds a lot different colors different themed versions And look what's happening with the switch there's been splatoon versions. There's been mario versions There's been monster hunter versions There's been fortnite versions These are all the kind of things that existed Exclusively in the hands of do you remember a fortnite version of we? I mean there was no fortnite back then but you know what I mean like we didn't have these custom themed home consoles The closest we got was a little trim on the black 32 gigabyte You know we you tablet For the wind waker like nintendo doesn't do themed home consoles Rarely ever Yet here we are when nintendo switch and there's tons of these themed systems Tons of these read colors tons of the docs being read on there's a super smash bros one right like tons of this stuff There's a whole bunch of different switch light colors. They keep coming out with new ones We just got the cool blue for metopia. What's going to come next? These are all practices nintendo has been doing with their handheld devices So why would we expect them to also not continue the practice of releasing a bigger more powerful version Or at least a similar size more powerful version We don't need takahashi machizuki to confirm to us that we're going to get what we've always been getting for the past decade or two It should be expected Is it going to be called the pro probably not now probably new nintendo switch switch plus switch advance It'll just say nintendo switch on the dock. It'll just say nintendo switch on the back But it's still a switch light. It's still a switch. It's still in the switch family It should be expected So that's why I believe Because it should have been expected from day one And like the new nintendo 3ds it possibly could become that new skew the new default skew that takes over So yeah We're just working with the information available We're doing our best And i'm just as disappointed as the rest of you Obviously would have been Really good for all of us if this thing would have been revealed last week on tuesday on wednesday on thursday or on friday It'd be really good if it was revealed this upcoming week And there's a lot of naysayers out there that I know a lot of us believers We really want to prove wrong in a way that we currently can't But we can look at nintendo's history We can look at the reliable reporters out there to know this thing is real now look I get it. Okay It's tough out there But i'm holding on fast and I know you're going to go down to the comments There's going to be a lot of naysayers.  You're just trying to make that cash Money and make it rain on all of you at least make it rain on me And i'm not going to sit here and say hey The videos don't make money do we have ads for none every video we we we do makes money But that's being disingenuous to the point It really is Because I only make videos about the things I care about I passionately care about a more powerful device The switch is the first nintendo portable system that I have actually cared about since the gameboy Yeah, I owned the gameboy advance and the ds and the 3ds But I barely played games on those platforms I only only grew up with the gameboy and then I became a pc gamer. I became a console gamer But the switch is my home console Also my handheld and I really appreciate it So for the first time in my entire Time of being a gamer, I actually care about an upgraded nintendo system So the pro matters to me a little bit more than say the new 3ds did or the ds I did But a significant amount more because while I own those devices too You know, I only played zelda on them I plan to play hundreds of games on my switch pro In the future and from the past games I already own and games I intend to buy So yeah, forgive me a bit If I tend to care more about this switch pro device, then I've cared about any upgraded device In the history of nintendo So sure Videos like this probably get the clicks get the views I don't know. I have no idea There's videos I drop all the time that I think are going to perform well and don't Real news videos Real information At the end of the day I'm only human And I'm really excited for the prospect of this device.