What's up, everyone? Welcome into the Sunday night recap presented by fan duel. I'm your host Simon joint as always by my co-host Josh and John Luke. What's up boys? What up here? Ready to fix some stuff or guide traffic? I don't know, whatever you want to fix. Fix some stuff or guide traffic. Why not go and do it all? And JL is here. I'm sorry, Facebook himself is here to gather all of our data, I think is what's going on right now. Yeah, you can refer to me as meta now. So meta, it's great having you on today. We have had an awesome day of football. It's been a little bit different since some of the past weeks where we've had a really exciting 4pm slate than a less exciting 1pm slate. It felt like the 1pm slate felt a little slighted by us and they came out and showed up with some killer games today. I'm excited to get into them. 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It looked like it was trending this way, but we have official news now. Josh, how does that affect the receiving options for you on this Dallas offense? Honestly, it limits everyone. It downgrades everyone on this Cowboys offense for me, including the rushing game. I don't feel fully confident in anyone because we really don't know what Cooper Rush can do. We've never seen him in an actual NFL game starting as a quarterback. So I'm concerned, but having said that, this is a good team. They have good pieces around him. So I could see good things happening, but I am not expecting it. Yeah, I'm still starting most of the players on this team. I am a little bit concerned for Mario Cooper for some of the past catching options here. Definitely not firing. Gallops back right this week. I don't think he's playing. He's not playing this week. He came off the IR and he was practicing a little bit, but I don't think he's active for the game today. It could be mistaken. But CDLAM, Ezekiel Elliott, all those guys I'm still playing this week. So Michael Gallops listed as a game time decision for this game according to Number Fire. He still listed as a game time decision. So we could see him on the field. My question, we're talking about we're downgrading these receiving options, but since it's a Sunday night game, there are limited options to replace them. Angel, you kind of hit on that. You're starting all of them. Now the game's left. You could pivot to a Minnesota wide receiver or someone from the game tomorrow. Are you looking at a Kansas City? And there's probably a couple of Giants wide receivers available in these because they've dealt with so many injuries, right? So would you rather start CDLAM or any of the Giants wide receivers? CDLAM for sure. CDLAM or KJ Osborne? CDLAM. So I really think you're adjusting your expectations. But I think there's very little besides moving DAC out of your quarterback spot that this is going to actually affect from a fantasy perspective. You're leaving these guys in your season long lineups. It does affect their upside for sure. Fan Duel is in here with the Spooky Pumpkins. Welcome in Fan Duel. And we got J-Wall saying Happy Halloween FY Fan Duel. And Maria said Happy Halloween at J-Wall Fan Duel and Front Yard FYF. And everyone else joining. Happy Halloween's all around. Anthony said three, five crew. Happy Halloween, kids. Anthony. Happy Halloween, Anthony. And Simon is legendary. Good one. Good one. It is actually, it's kind of funny. I can't even eat dairy though. And you produce milk though. You do anyway. I got to show something off. It's got the udders and everything. Oh yeah. Oh that's hot. That is so hot. I don't know if YouTube and Twitch are going to like that so much. Or Fan Duel. I do not like when you show your udders. Jail's Mommy is watching the FYF Fan Duel show rather than Handing Out Candy Lights Out. Does that make me a bad person? No. Absolutely not. You think I'll Handing Out Candy right now? Hold on. Handing out something.  Guys, unless there's anything else about this game on the Minnesota side of the ball you want to say, I think we're going to go ahead and move on to our first recap of the day. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. The first game we're going to be talking about is the San Francisco 49ers versus the Chicago Bears. So let me get that one pulled up for us right here. We can go ahead and jump in to discuss that game. Absolutely. And this was a good game. Most of the game was good. The Bears were winning for the majority it felt like, but the 49ers kind of pulled it all together at the end. And when we're looking at the 49er side of the ball, Jimmy Garoppolo had a fantastic game, right? It was really on the back of two rushing touchdowns, which looked more or less like designed touchdowns for him to run the ball, which is interesting for Jimmy Garoppolo, who's not known as a mobile quarterback. Elijah Mitchell killed it. Debo Samuel did Debo Samuel things, but in a brain and I, you can actually put together a game compared to what he's done so far this season. He even had a catch in the end zone. It was not, but he did have a catch. He did have a catch. Yeah. But outside of that, really the one thing that stood out to me the most was Elijah Mitchell. Like he said, he had a fantastic game. He had 18 carries at 137 yards, one touchdown.  Can you just put him in there, feel comfortable starting him week in and week out? I was, I think the reason you came to me is because I was hesitant to crown him, the running back for the San Francisco 49ers for a bit there. And you know what? I'm making the switch. I think Elijah Mitchell, if he's on your rosters, you're plugging them in and you're playing them. Unless you have an insane team where you've got like Najee Harris, Austin Eckler and Deandre Swift. I find it very hard that you're not going to get Elijah Mitchell in your lineup. He looks like the guy and I, it's been a while since we've had some real clarity in this 49ers backfield. So that's exciting. It's so funny trying to take you seriously with a cow. Does it help if I take the hood off and just have a cow hat on? It does help a tiny bit. Okay. Well, it helps here too because I am so hot in this thing. So Jail, do you agree with Simon here? Do you think Elijah Mitchell is a locked in little to say running back to, that's why Anthony came and said he's a solid running back to the rest of the season. Do you agree with Anthony Jail? Absolutely. Absolutely. 18 carries is significant. If they continue to run the ball that much through Elijah Mitchell, he's absolutely a running back to the rest of season. His like he's, there's virtually no receiving work for Elijah Mitchell. He hasn't gotten a single catch since week five where he got two catches and then one other week and week two, he got to two receptions. Apart outside of that, no receiving work, which definitely limits his upside. So RB two right now, rest of season. Yeah. Yeah.  We'll see what happens when Jeff Wilson comes back in a week or two, but I don't think it changes anything in my mind. Now, on the other side of the ball, we had Justin Fields who finally had a game guys. He did it. He did it. He ran the football. He passed the football. He just, he looked like, you know, He did quarterback things. He did quarterback things, which we haven't really seen from honestly any Chicago Bears quarterback so far this year, but especially Justin Fields. So it was awesome to see Khalil Herbert did not have a great game considering it had 23 carries from a fantasy perspective. But this is encouraging going forward regardless. The wide receivers, they, they did Bears wide receiver things were Darnell Mooney. He had six sketches for 64 yards. He was startable. I guess he's, is he the best Bears wide receiver going forward? Is it just official? Are we just, we done with Alan Robinson here guys? Jail, what do you think? I agree. I think so. I think so. I think it's Darnell Mooney. Out of the two of them. Yes. So just the, I mean on the season, Darnell Mooney has a 26.1% target share in this offense compared to Alan Robinson's 21.7% in the last three games. So this is going to help you see like sort of the trend just recently, you know, in the last three games, Darnell Mooney, 26.5%, which is relatively the same, right? Alan Robinson, 18.1%. So down 3%. That's significant. It is. Alan Robinson is a two in this offense. Justin Fields prefers Darnell Mooney and they're not passing enough for it to really matter out of their way. Yeah. Yeah.  Simon, he's running. He got over a hundred rushing yards today. What do you think, Simon? I need to see it again. Know what I mean? I need to see that this is the way they want to use Justin Fields and not just this is one game that happened because we've seen quite a few games before this where Justin Fields was completely and totally unusable for fantasy and not a great NFL quarterback. It was great watching him show what he can do in the game today, but I'm not plugging him into any lineups next week. I need to see it again that this is their plan going forward. I think he needs to pass more. He does. Yeah. 27 attempts, 19 completions for 175 yards and one touchdown. It's just not, not quite enough. I mean, we, I feel like we had a similar type of discussion with James Winston early in the season where he was getting fantasy points, put up a decent, some decent weeks, but not enough. Justin Fields runs it. I was going to say, you're right. I immediately agreed with you that he needs to pass more, but for the NFL, yeah, absolutely. For fantasy, not necessarily. He can pass the ball 15 times a game if he's getting a hundred plus rushing yards and two touchdowns. Like it's not going to look good. Yes. He hasn't run that well. I mean, this is the most rushing attempts he's had out of the whole, any game this season tied with week two and how many yards did he have week two? 31. This is the first time. This is the first time he's gotten more than 41 Russian, I'm sorry, 43 rushing yards in a single game this season. So, and he had a rushing touchdown, which, which definitely helped. So that, I completely agree with you, Simon. He needs at least both. He needs to increase and I met with Matt Nagy coming back, you know, most likely next week. I want to, I want to see that he's actually going to be as efficient in the run. It's so funny. Their head coach is out for a game and then he does well. He's like, you know, he's at home.  Well, and here's the bet. I was sitting on my couch thinking about this.  You know what I mean? Like no one's ever like someone's going to take credit. He'll be like, no, no, no, that was me. This was my game plan and it's no one's ever going to buy it for a single second. He like intentionally tried to make it a shitty game plan too, but they just ignored him. Oh man. Is there anything else that stood out to you in this game guys? Because I think that's pretty much it. Justin Fields, it was great to see him do well, but I'm with you guys. I am not starting him until I see this go going happening even more, you know? Yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Jail. No, I was just going to say another thing that stood out to me was Khalil Herbert, 23 carries. That's a ton, a ton of carries. 23 carries, 72 yards and no touchdowns, unfortunately. But he's getting the work still. He's getting the work right now. Yeah. Yeah. And we talked about it a bit last week, but he's getting so much work at this point and he's been doing pretty well with it. I think David Montgomery is going to see a little bit less work. He'll still be the alpha in this offense, but Khalil Herbert has earned more work in this offense, even with a healthy David Montgomery that I think that's what we're going to see. I've changed my tune a little bit on that one. It's not going to be the same workload for David Montgomery that we saw previous to the injury. Especially because we saw trade rumors circle about David Montgomery as well. It shows that they really do trust Khalil Herbert. Yeah, I agree. Guys, we're going to go ahead and move on to the Carolina Atlanta game for this one. Yeah, this is a wild game. Sam Darno ruled out the concussion. He did not look very good. And right before, or actually mid-game, we had some bombshell news break. Calvin Ridley stepping away from football for the time being no timeline. Josh, what do you think this means for the other options in this offense? For the Atlanta Falcons? Yeah, for the Atlanta Falcons. For the Atlanta Falcons, I mean, in my mind, first of all, it would be a plus for Kyle initially when I heard this. I'm like, if Calvin Ridley is not playing this year, which, you know, he's got to do his thing, that's understandable. But from a fantasy perspective, immediately what I think I'm like, Kyle Pitts is going to be better and Russell Gage is going to be better. However, what happened to Russell Gage this game? He was not targeted at all. Kyle Pitts did pretty much nothing. He had a pretty bad drop there in the middle of the game as well. I don't know. I would say it would improve their performance. I mean, I don't know. This offense just doesn't run, is not running very well. Matt Ryan didn't look great today. Cordero Patterson. He's the number one fantasy player on this offense for me. It's crazy. It's wild. Every weekend and week out. What about Taji Sharp? Taji Sharp had five receptions for 58 yards. No touchdowns, but five receptions on six targets. Simon, are you interested at all in Taji Sharp with the Calvin Ridley news? Am I rushing to throw him into my lineups next week? No. But if I've got a bench spot, if I've got a wide receiver on by and I'm looking for a fill in, he's definitely a name I'm considering. I'm not trusting the targets from this game because like you mentioned previously, this was a weird game for the Falcons. None of their receiving options really did anything. I expect Russell Gage to be involved in future games. So I'm not hyped about Taji Sharp. I think he is an asset that you can go ahead and do that. Yeah. Absolutely. I agree with that. Mike Davis, who last week was skunked, I think most of the fantasy community declared him a bus going forward, droppable, not worth throwing in your roster. And Arthur Smith came out in between and said that was largely a product of the team just not running the ball as much. What do you guys think? This week, he did bounce back. He had nine attempts, 44 rushing yards, six targets on five receptions for 22 receiving yards. Are you guys at all back in on Mike Davis? This plus a touchdown is his ceiling to me. Know what I mean? Like you throw a touchdown on there at six points and that's the that's the ceiling you can expect from Mike Davis with how they want to use him. Now, does that mean he's rosterable? Absolutely. Like you can throw him on there, but it doesn't this does not make me more excited about Mike Davis. Cordero Patterson's the back to roster in this Atlanta Falcons offense and Mike Davis is going to do this or worse the rest of the season. Like this is what you're going to see. This is a Mike Davis game. Does the Calvin Ridley news change change Mike Davis's outlook at all? I don't think it changes much honestly. It's relatively the same. While Mike Davis might get a few additional touches without Kevin Ridley there, it's really the offense is just going to be less efficient as a whole without Kevin Ridley. So it's going to limit those goal line touches that we envision Mike Davis getting. I'm I don't want to start Mike Davis. Is he worth being on your fantasy bench? You know, if something were to happen to Cordero Patterson, Mike Davis is probably a very usable running back at that point. But without that, like he's a by week fill in still for me. Yeah, I think a lot of people are probably still on that train and we'll have to see it. You know, see his production improve on the other side of the ball. DJ Moore. Unfortunately, again, is sort of stuck in this loop of, you know, he's getting targets. He's got eight targets for receptions, 59 yards, no touchdowns. And it just seems like it's a product. His poor performance is a product of this offense with Sam Darnold getting concussed and PJ Walker coming in. What are you guys doing with with DJ Moore? I feel like you still got to start him. He's still got the talent regardless of the quarterback there. PJ Walker, Sam Darnold, he is the number one on this offense far and away still in my mind. Like you said, he's still got eight targets. The offense is just not as good as we envisioned after the first few weeks of the season. So his upside is limited, but he's still a top 20 receiver. Yeah. Are there any any? Oh, sorry.  I was just going to say these are my least favorite bits of fantasy news. One, it deals with an injury from a player. And then two, there's really not much actionable around it. You're still starting DJ Moore. You're just expecting less like you're not taking them out. Maybe if you have a nice option that was close in value that you were in between Terry McLauren or something that you couldn't fit into your lineup, this swaps those guys. But in most cases, you're just leaving DJ Moore in there. Any other options on this offense? Tommy Tremble, Robbie Anderson, any of these guys interesting to you? Are you are you plugging in a fan dual lineup? I'm just going to hold it up today. He got lit up. I want to see how serious that injury is because he was taking out of the game, but he only got one target this game. And really what was making his like fantasy value at all was the targets. You know, so. Right. I'm not interested in anyone other than the starting running back a.k.a. CMC when he comes back in Trubel Hubbard right now and DJ Moore. Yep. Full agreement with Josh and at least Robbie Anderson's targets matched his production today. It's been confusing all season watching them not match. At least he did us a favor and made a match. Yeah, absolutely. Guys, before we move on to our next game, we got some people in here. Grimm fans had gained well in the manual Sanders was a bust. Oh, yeah. Man, I felt that gain well one with you, Grimm. That one really hurt a lot of my teams. That one was rough. I think that's just a team, a collective like hands on the head surrender Cobra from like 90% of fantasy managers out there with the gain well game today. And Anthony Sandy started gain well over Michael Carter. Ouch. Ouch. And then Grimm saying fire and Aggie all hailed the new guy. It doesn't even care who it is. He's all on the new guy with you, Grimm. I'm about the new guy. What's up, Kev? Welcome. And Kev said bird up were show on television. And then Grimm, man, and then the Bengals lost you had a rough week. The game will start seemed like a lock. The Bengals win over the jet seemed like a lock and didn't turn out that way for either one of them. We'll talk a bit about this Bengals game in a little bit, but man, that was absolutely rough. Bandool with the FYF logo. I love it. Every time I see the those emotes pop up in the chat. And Maria want to know, should I be starting Melvin Gordon? I put him on the bench today and I wish I didn't. I know we're going to hit on this more, but Josh, just immediate reaction to this question. Are you starting Melvin Gordon week in week out in most fantasy leagues? Yes. In most fantasy leagues with the running back situation that's going on right now.  I would be terrified if he was my number one running back on a team, but he's getting enough work is a startable asset on a Denver team that can move and Melvin Gordon looks good. Melvin Gordon looks good when he gets the ball. We're so nervous about Givante Williams eventually taking over all of this workload that Melvin Gordon is still the starting running back for this team. Yeah, we haven't seen it yet. We haven't seen Givante take over the workload yet and Melvin Gordon he's a back end RB two so far in the season. I expect that going forward. At worst case, high end RB three. I mean, yeah, we just talked about Elijah Mitchell. I'm still playing Elijah Mitchell over him or any running back that's got the role all to themselves. But, you know, that that list is not very long. Yeah. And Fanduil coming in right after Maria's question saying Melvin just oh no. Maria asks and Fanduil comes in with the Melvin Fumble in Albert Latinas no McCaffrey expected back next week. So everyone who held on to him congratulations. You made it. The week is like how many times have I heard that he's expected back. Yeah, we've heard you say that Joshua. Hey, I'm crossing my fingers. I've got to make a couple weeks myself. Guys, this next game we are going to be talking about is the Cleveland Browns versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, man, not a good game for the Browns. But there's some there's some fantasy news we can take out of this. The number one thing, Josh, it was something you said while we were watching the game and the thing you first on this one. You're the one who said it. Come on. I know you start Odell Beckham Jr. in any fantasy format right now. No, no, you can't. He got one reception today for six yards. He's done nothing all season to give you any faith that he he's going to give you anything. I mean, there was I remember a few weeks ago there was a past Baker Mayfield missed that he would have scored a touchdown on. But it was broken coverage. It wasn't like Odell Beckham Jr. No, you can't start him. Am I willing to drop him? Not yet. I don't want to drop him. You know, if I saw him on the waiver wire and I had a open spot on my bench, I'd probably throw him one there. But he hasn't done anything. So is he droppable? He is. He is. He absolutely is. I'm not dropping the target share leader in the Cleveland Brown's offense. I can't do it. I can't do it. I feel like this hasn't gotten to one target week like this at all. At all the seasons. What's the top amount of targets he's gotten in a week? Is nine, which is. Really? That's more than I would have guessed. It's fine. The Cleveland Browns, I haven't checked and you know what, I probably won't know until the stats come out tomorrow. But in the recent weeks when I checked, they are the team that's running the most run plays out of any team in the NFL. So it's still the target share leader here. I'm just holding out and hoping that they pass more. I am. Coming in that didn't waste time. Yeah, it was going to be a one heavy offense. I expected Odell Beckham to do more with the targets that he was going to get that we projected for him. And it's just not happening. I don't know if it's Baker, if it's this offense, but it is just not looking good for Odell Beckham. So guys, rest of season, who would you rather have on your roster? Odell Beckham Jr. or Sterling Shepherd? How about a guy called Landry because I'm taking Jarvis Landry over to Odell Beckham and Sterling Shepherd. Jail, answer both those guys.  I will take.  I'll take Sterling Shepherd and I plead the fifth and the next one. And Joe's like, and I'll take neither on the next one. I would take Jarvis. I would take Jarvis just because that we know that he and Baker have a rapport.  I'd rather have Jarvis, honestly. Now, he has missed the game, but I just want you guys to guess what like Odell Beckham is the wide receiver blank on the season so far in PPR formats. 50, 40, 48, 75, going into this week. That doesn't even count this week. So I imagine it's going to go down. He is the wide receiver 75 in fantasy going into this week in PPR. I agree with Josh. I'm not I'm not rushing to drop him. But if there's a guy you need on the waiver wire, he's a name on your roster. You can consider dropping and that really hurts my feelings. And then let me ask you this if who is the guy in the Atlanta that we were just talking about? Taja Sharpe. Absolutely not. Taja Sharpe. Any of those guys that you pick up and drop. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. Me neither. And Gibran agreeing with us saying he's completely droppable. Only reason he had those the target shares because of Jarvis being injured. Tell me what he's done with those target. Nothing a hundred percent. He's done nothing with those targets. You're right. Even if he's given the target, he hasn't done anything with them. But guys. Maybe you can package them in a trade and just have name value but it's possible. It is it is possible. Um guys, the next player I wanted to talk about on the Cleveland side of this ball was the highest scoring non-quarterback in fan bill scoring format. And it was not Nick Chubb. It was the Ernest Johnson. Now we only had four carries for 22 yards and one reception for seven receiving yards but he did get the rushing touchdown.  Is the Ernest Johnson a player that you're looking as a as an upside play or as an emergency start play? How are you viewing the Ernest Johnson rest of the season? Is he someone you're looking to roster? He's an emergency type flex play for me. Four carries is is nothing. That's nothing just because he vultured a touchdown. I'm not I'm not going to you know expect any sort of consistency and fantasy points going forward barring injury. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you as well. He's not a player that you can keep plugging into your lineups. He may have weeks like this going forward but you don't want to rely on four carry kind of volume that they want to keep giving that volume to Nick Chubb. So excuse me. Najee Harris on the other side of the ball on the stealer side of the ball. He just continues to be unbelievably involved. Twenty six carries in this game. Ninety one yards and a rushing touchdown and then some receiving work on top of it. So jail. We just did this with Oda Beckham but I was having you guess. Now I want you to project rest of season. Najee Harris is the RB blank rest of season. He's so involved in this offense. He's currently in PPR. He's got to be like three. I can tell you in one second not including this game. So before this game he was five and he had a great game. He was the seventh overall running back in a PPR league this week. I'll throw I'll throw him right there. I'll throw him RB seven on the season. There'll be seven Josh. I'll say five. So this is a this is a locked and loaded RB one for you guys rest of season. There's no reason Najee Harris ever sees this game. So yeah. I'm just getting you know. Barring some massive change right in his usage now. Yeah. I can see a world where Ben Ralph Gettzherter gets hurt and he's not getting the receptions and the defences just know Najee Harris is going to the ball all the time. But other other than injury other than injury completely great for the for the receivers on this side of the ball though guys I think Johnson was peppered with targets in this game. only five targets for Chase Claypool. Josh, does this concern you at all about Chase Claypool going forward in his role in this offense or is this kind of what you expected from the deep threat guy? No, this does not concern me at all. I think Chase Claypool is a fantastic wide receiver talent. This game, we knew it was going to be more of a grind out. I was still starting Chase Claypool going into this game. Don't get me wrong, but we knew this is in a division rivals. Like we were just talking about the Browns run the ball a ton. They run down the clock and the Steelers kind of more or less do the same with thinking Dung passes. Chase Claypool is going to have great games going forward. He had two rushing attempts, by the way, as well. They want to get him involved and Pat Fryemuth himself had a good game, which took away some targets. But look at the other receivers. The other receivers in this offense did nothing outside of Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool. Chase Claypool is going to have great games going forward still. Yeah. We got Lindy's in the chat, but she's only saying hi to Kevron, not saying hi to us. What's up, Kev, from Lindy's. And then Grimfan, Garofalo, specifically for you, Facebook, Metta, John Luke, JL, with the Jets big win today. And if they win next week over the Colts, do they make the playoffs as a wild card? And is Mike White the new full time starter at QB? He wants your prognostication on this question, Garofalo. Prognostication. I mean, there's a not even know if I used that word, right? You did because it sounds right and I can't dispute you. No, there's really not much of a chance at all, in my opinion. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think it's happening. I don't think Mike White's the full time starter.  Four or five yards, like, yes, sir, great job. That's a story he'll remember for the rest of his life, his first NFL career start. I'm just not sure how many more stories he's going to get like that. I think that's the most yards. One of the announcers, I think, was saying, or maybe it was Andrew Ceciliano and Red Zone saying, it's the most yards out of any rookie QB's first NFL appearance since Cam Newton. Well, I think Mike White's a rookie, but so any like first start? Oh, sorry, first NFL star. Yeah, I mean, not rookie. Yeah. And Grim fans said it can be any of you. Josh, do you think the Jets have a shot at making the playoffs? No. No, I don't. Sorry, Grim fan. Sorry if you're a Jets fan, but we do not. Anthony said Tom Brady picks six to lose and he is laughing away. That is brutal, Anthony, but, um, and happy Halloween. Now we get the hello from Wendy's. Well, happy Halloween. Happy Halloween to you and everybody else watching. It is a good one. Um, but Josh, you touched a little bit on the last thing I wanted to talk about here. So we did mention on the live streams this past week with Juju going out, there was a chance there could be more involvement for Pat Fryermuth stepping up as the tight end in this offense. And it looks like he took a step forward today. What was it? Seven targets, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Four receptions, um, 44 yards and a touchdown. What category of tight end is that this put Pat Fryermuth in for? And to qualify, I mean, like locked in starter, potential starter, bi-week fill in, like how do you view Pat Fryermuth the rest of season? He's a borderline locked and loaded start. And like he's a borderline top 12 tight end. So that, you know, there's these, this tier of like the top five tight ends where it's like T.J. Hawkins and Darren Waller, Mark Andrews, Travis Kelsey, Kyle Pitts kind of deal, um, and Kittle finds his way up in there when he's healthy. Um, and then kind of Pat Fryermuth could fall into this category of these rest of the tight ends. Am I going to start making a sticky over him? Yes. Am I going to start no offense over that? I mean, no offense where you start to question it. I think right there. No offense level. Dolce, you know, uh, Hunter Henry level, Zach Hertz level. You could play Pat Fryermuth over any of these guys, I think, because he's a rookie. Um, and he's growing in this offense and Ben Routhelsberger likes to throw it to him and he's very talented. Yeah. Jail, how do you feel about Pat? Oh, I don't know if I, if I'm starting him over, uh, Phant or what was the other name you threw out there? Hunter Henry Zach Hertz. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Hunter Henry Zach Hertz and the right matchup, but his target share is still pretty low. Uh, it has improved the last three games. It's been at 10.1% on the season, 18.9% in the last three games. Uh, so it's going up. So if he gets to saying that I'm a little bit more interested. Uh, but otherwise, uh, I think he's is most likely to be back in tight end one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And 18.1%, like you said, if he can sustain, that's awesome. 18.9%. That's excellent for tight ends. I think that would put him in the top five of tight ends if I'm not mistaken. I can double check that. If that stays consistent for another two, three weeks, I think then you really have to bump him up a tier that then he bumps into that you're starting him every week kind of guy with that kind of target share. Um, also Grim said, yeah, I am a Jets fan. I'm sorry if we were poo-pooing on your team. I just don't think this is the other way off. But it makes you feel any better. I'm a Browns fan and I think I came to terms with the fact today that I don't think we're making it right off either. So, um, I'm right there with you, buddy. Oh, no. It's not looking good, especially with the division we're in, the Bengals and the Ravens, even with the Bengals lost, they still look like a pretty freaking good team. If you guys are ready, we're going to go ahead and move on to our next game. It is the Indianapolis Colts versus the Tennessee Titans. Let me get that one pulled up for us real quick right here. Yeah, this was, this was maybe the best game of the one o'clock games, I would say. In my mind it was, right? You guys agree? This one or the Bengals game? I think you got to turn that one out. Yeah, that Bengals game was wild. You're absolutely correct. On the Colts side of the ball, you know, Carson Wentz, he continued his run. He's been playing well. He's a good quarterback and he's kind of shown it. Jonathan Taylor, he is a locked and loaded, running back one the rest of the season for me. Naim Hines, he's a good running back. You know, he probably deserves to be on rosters, but I never feel comfortable playing him because you never know when he's going to get those receptions. But really the biggest thing that stood out to me, T.Y. Hilton, he did get knocked out of the game. I don't know how significant that injury is, but regardless, Michael Pittman's the real deal, right, Jail? Michael Pittman is the real deal. He started out the game early, two touchdowns right away, but he was involved throughout. He is Carson Wentz, safety blanket go-to guy. Would you agree, Jail? Yes, yeah. 24.8% target share in this offense. The next closest option the next closest in target share is Zach Pascal with 16.4%. That is almost eight. That is more than 8% difference. That's wild. Michael Pittman's the real deal. Michael Pittman's the real deal. Man, I think you can start him every week. He's a wide receiver two at this point in my mind. A backhand wide receiver two. I want Michael Pittman in my lineup and I'm very confident about him going forward. Do you agree, Simon? Full agreement. I don't know how you can't be watching the past couple of weeks with this guy, and I'm excited to see if he can maintain this rest of season. Just as a little game, we were talking earlier, if he maintains this, what's it going to look like next year? Where is he drafted? As a wide receiver two? As a backhand wide receiver one? If he keeps this pace up with Carson Wentz? Simon. It's fun to watch. Simon, you want to do this guy or this guy? Would you rather have Michael Pittman or a Murray Cooper rest of the season? Rest of season? Oh, yeah. I'm doing it to you, Simon. I'm doing it to you. He is doing it to you. No, thank you. I will pass on that one. Oh my gosh. That one. I think at this point it's, I think it's Pittman. I think it's Pittman rest of season. Man, yeah. That one hurts. I still like a Murray Cooper. I think a Murray Cooper, Michael Pittman are in that same like backhand wide receiver two range rest of season, like with some upside. Know what I mean? They have upside, but they are wide receiver twos rest of season in my mind. I have to pick one. I guess I'll go Pittman, but they're in the same tier. A Murray Cooper is not even a wide receiver two up until this point on the season. No. He's dealing with some injuries. He's dealing with some injuries, but at the same time, there was that quote that came out from him where he says, I'm as close to, I forget exactly how it went, but I'm as close to as 100% as I'm going to get, which really, you can take it a couple different ways. But for me, it just tells me he's never going to be fully healthy this season, which is concerning, which is concerning. CDLM is the wide receiver one on that team. But anyway, we're not talking about the Cowboys, right? On the other side of the ball, the Tennessee Titans, the winners of this game. It was a close one. Like I said, Ryan Tannehill looked great. Derek Henry did come out at the beginning of the game with it looked to be like a foot injury of some sort. He didn't have his cleat on. He was hobbling around a little bit, but he still got 28 carries, 68 yards. He was heavily involved, but he had his worst game of the season. But AJ Brown, guys, AJ Brown went off. AJ, oh my love. MFN Brown. 10 catches, 155 yards and a touchdown. AJ Brown, he's a wide receiver one for me the rest of the season. And you could make an argument that he's at top five, honestly, I think. And I don't even think that's that hot. It's not. We'll see what happens when Julio Jones comes back. But you agree, AJ Brown's locked in load of wide receiver one. Yeah. Yeah, it's gotta be. And even when Julio comes back, I think it's a locked in loaded wide receiver one. And we're seeing continued health issues. Julio's having trouble staying healthy. So I don't, I don't know what that's going to look like the rest of season, if he'll be available. Last three games, AJ Brown, 34.5% target share is just offense.  That is your favorite step. That is crazy. It's one of the most important sets. Yeah, I agree with you. It's opportunity. Players can't score points if they don't put the ball. That's bottom line. Guys, I just want to highlight this interaction going on in the chat right now. Kev saying, sub Fandall Fandall said, yo, Kevron, big day for the birds. Because Kev is our bird up guy. Bird up, bird up. It was a big day for the birds. And a good run as a question for speaking of pit man, how's today's performance affected salary in regards to DFS algorithms? Obviously it goes up, but will he continue to be undervalued? John Luke, what do you think on this one?  No, I think it's absolutely going to adjust back to where two words should be. The two touchdowns, the, the 10 catches, like there's no way this can be ignored going forward. I think you're not going to be able to get pit man for a undervalued price going forward. Yeah, I mean, his consistency hasn't been fantastic. I mean, last week against Houston, he got, let's see, yeah, PPR, he got 5.8 points. It wasn't a great game the week before that 20.9 points and then 11.9 points. So I could see it not adjusting and him still being undervalued, but he's clearly Carson Wentz favorite target. And so I think that he's going to continue being a value until he does it consistently. I'm a little bit more in line with you, Jail. I think his price goes up this coming week, but it's not going to be enough to make him not in value quite yet. We'll see how the algorithms react. But I, I think Michael Pittman still, you're still going to be able to find some value with him in DFS lineups, but we'll see. We'll see what the price looks like this coming week. I'm, I'm excited to see what it looks like after this big game from Pittman. Okay. And if you guys are, that's, that's everything I wanted to cover in that game there. Then let's go ahead and move on to our next game, guys. The next game we're going to be talking about, we alluded to it earlier as the potential other best game from this early slate. We're going to be talking about the Cincinnati Bengals versus the New York Jets and the New York Jets just stealing a win out there that 34 to 31 beating the Bengals. What are the Bengals? They beat the Ravens. They come to Baltimore. They beat the Ravens and then they lose to the Jets at home, right? This game is at home. This was a crazy game. This was, yeah, this was insane. And when you look at the bangles side of the ball, like only the people that you would expect to do anything actually did anything, like on the offensive side of the ball, it was literally like no, no, no names. Samajie Peeride and CJ Usama were the biggest no names, but we all know who they are at this point. Yeah. Yeah. The Bengals are 100% without a doubt in my mind going to beat the Ravens, lose to the Jets and then come out and beat the Browns in their next game. Like, like, they're going to do it. It just seems like that's what this Bengal team is about. I'm so confused how they lost this game. Them and the Saints, I feel like they're just messing with my brain. Baffling. So, so let's start with the Bengals side of this ball. Joe Burrow, he had a pretty good game. I don't think we need to talk about him. Tyler Boyd, QB two, right? Through a touch or through a 46 yard pass. Joe Mixon, 14 carries 33 yards and a touchdown clearly the running back one on that team. In case anyone was worried about him or his injury. Jamar Chase, a little bit of falling back to earth here after the last few weeks of just insanity. He had three receptions, 32 yards and a touchdown on nine targets. Josh, are you at all? What are you thinking after this type of performance from Jamar Chase? Does this affect at all your opinion of him going forward? Can Jamar Chase be game managed? No. He, first of all, he dropped a touchdown very early in this game and it wasn't like a, it was a drop in the end zone.  He still got a touchdown like you mentioned. He actually got a rush attempt, which is, is always fun to see, you know, they're trying to get him involved in any way they can. Jamar Chase is still good to go, not worried about him. Is he still the one in this offense? Yes. Yeah. So T, T Higgins, who had six targets, four receptions, six targets, 97 yards, no touchdowns. Simon T Higgins is our guy, Clemson guy. I love T Higgins. What's your opinion of him going forward after a 15 target game this past week, week seven, going to six targets? What can we expect from T Higgins going forward? I mean, I, I don't know about you guys, but I never expected the 15 target per game piece to continue into this week. I'm perfectly happy with a six target game from T Higgins. That's plenty of volume for him to produce at the wide receiver two levels that I think we're expecting of him rest of season. So I'm cool with it. I like T Higgins involvement in this offense. And I think it's a great offense to have involved pieces for. So I like T Higgins as a wide receiver two rest of season. And in, I know we're not talking dynasty right now, but in dynasty, T Higgins and Jamar Chase are both incredibly valuable wide receiver assets you can have on your team. And I think people are going to be forgetting about T a little bit because of the excitement with Jamar Chase, but he's still probably a wide receiver two, like a mid range wide receiver two in dynasty wide receiver rankings. He's, he's young, talented and on a high powered offense, even if he is the two. I'm a big fan of T Higgins. Michael Bittner, T Higgins. Rest of season. Yes. I'm taking Michael Bittner. Ah, there we go. I'm going to be different. I'm going to be different. And so Tyler Boyd, he was the fantasy point leader out of the receiving options on this team. One reception. I'm sorry. No, that's the completion by five receptions on eight targets, 69 yards and one touchdown. Tyler Boyd is, can we consider him the wide receiver three here? See the wide receiver two B, where are you putting Tyler Boyd rest of season? He's the wide receiver three. Like I'm fully comfortable putting him as the wide receiver three. We've seen games where he's disappeared. He's the, he's the slot guy for them and he does it pretty well. I say pretty well. I think Tyler Boyd is one of the better slot, like pure slot wide receivers in the entire NFL. But that role isn't always needed week in, week out for this Bangles team. So some games he's not going to produce. He's, he's the wide receiver three. Where does, where does Tyler Boyd finish in the season in your mind? That's a tough one. Josh, do you have an immediate answer? Yeah, as a, probably as a back end wide receiver three. Back end wide receiver three. I think that's, if you're lucky, I think maybe outside of that range. That's optimistic. Currently, I think not including this week, wide receiver 42. So he'll probably be a back end wide receiver three after this week. Yeah, most likely after that type of week. But they've dealt with a lot. They've, the T Higgins was out. And if, if one of, if Jamar Chase or T Higgins is not playing, Tyler Boyd becomes a lot more valuable. Yeah, absolutely. So on the other side of this ball, Mike White, replacement for Zach Wilson here. He had quite the game. You mean MVP, Mike White? My MVP, future Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer. And red zone MVP. Red zone MVP, 37 completions on 45 attempts, 405 yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions, Mike White, we had a game. You know, I got something to say here. I think Patrick Mahomes could learn a little bit from that. Someone takes Patrick Mahomes. Listen, I'm saying this is a joke, but I'm kind of being serious. I'm being slightly serious. Mike White, he was the check down king today. You know, a check down after check down after check down after check down, which it seems like Patrick Mahomes is a little bit, he's always looking for the big plays, always looking for the touchdown. Every play it seems like. And it comes back to bite him once in a while, right? I just feel like if he could, you know, just take with, in front of him once in a while, Patrick Mahomes, he would have a much better fan is much better season, NFL season so far. Yeah, I think that's been his biggest, his biggest issue up until this point is that he's just making mistakes. They're not going his way. If they were going his way, we'd be talking differently about Pat Mahomes. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make this a Pat Mahomes. Mike White, fantasy aside, I love this, like just the story. Know what I mean? Like I just really, really love when stuff like this happens. He was forced to start, wasn't expecting it. First career NFL start and he comes out and balls out 405 passing yards and beats the Bengals who are coming off that like really hot, like one of the hottest teams in the NFL after that win against the Ravens. People are talking about him and Mike White says, my first start, I'm going to take you guys to the career. You will remember the day that you met Mike White. You will remember M White. M White. Oh man. So also in this game, we had Michael Carter who had a fantastic game. 15 carries, 77 yards and a touchdown. And nine receptions. Nine receptions on 14 targets for 95 yards. What is Michael Carter rest of season? What can we expect from him? Running back starter, I think, rest of season. He's involved enough. Is he an every week starter for you? I think he's an every week starter. Like again, I'm going to go back unless you have one of these crazy teams where you have Austin Eckler, Najee Harrison, DeAndre Swift, Michael Carter is an every week starter. He's involved enough in this offense. And earlier, Josh, we were having a conversation. When or if Zach Wilson comes back, does that affect his value negatively? Because Mike White was the dump off king. I think the Jets might learn something from the success they had with Mike White being the dump off king in today's game. I think they might change up the way they're running this offense with Zach Wilson a little bit when it becomes back. This looked like a successful formula to provide a new quarterback with an easy way to find ways to make moves in this offense. So I'm expecting Michael Carter. This was an unreal game. I'm not calling for this every week, but he's so involved and I expect this level of involvement to continue throughout the rest of the season. I don't know how you can't start him. Yeah. So, so let me ask you this then. Who would you rather have rest of season? Michael Carter or Mike Davis? Michael Carter. Carter. Carter. Okay, Michael Carter. Michael Carter or James Connor? I'd rather have half of Michael Carter's points than Mike Davis. I'd rather you take Michael Carter, put him in my lineup, cut his points in half than plug Mike Davis in. Fair enough. Okay. All right. Clearly Michael Carter over. I'll take Michael Carter over James Connor. And Simon, you take him over James Connor? I'll take Michael Carter over James Carter. Okay. What about Miles Gaskin? I'll take Michael Carter. Michael Carter. Michael Carter and Zach Moss? Michael Carter. I'll take Michael Carter. All right. So RB2 rest of season? I put him in that RB2 category. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. So Jameson Crowder is I think is the last name on this Jets team. We should probably talk about 20.4% target share. Last three games. See someone that you should be throwing in your lineup in the right matchup. I still have no confidence starting Jameson Crowder. We got to remember Corey Davis didn't play today. And if Corey Davis continues not to play, then yeah, Jameson Crowder is the wide receiver for one for this team. But I don't trust him. I don't trust him at all. If Corey Davis isn't playing, I trust Jameson Crowder. This is what he does. He gets targeted. They're not high value targets. They're pretty low value targets. But he gets a lot of them. And he does a little bit with them enough to plug in as a wide receiver three or a flex option. So without Corey Davis, I have full confidence plugging in Jameson Crowder to get something like this. 10, 12 fantasy points. It's going to be fine. Now I will say he has seen his targets have been pretty consistent even with Corey Davis in 9, 6, and then a bye week and then 6 and then 9. Those are the last four games including a bye. So yeah, I mean, I think that there's definitely value there, but I think the offense are my number one thing I like to look at. It's the Jets targets. It's the Jets. That's my point is that even though it's a lot, the offense needs to move better in order for those targets to really matter. But still someone that you should probably have on your roster, maybe throwing your lineup, I would say in the right matchup, I would be fine throwing Jameson Crowder in. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Go ahead, Jail. I was just saying. You're right. You're right. He deserves to be on teams for sure. Okay. If that's it for this matchup, we're going to move on to our next one. Anything else you guys wanted to say about the Bengals or the Jets? Nice win, Bengals. I'm sorry, Jets fans, but we are moving on to- To move the other way around. This win. Jets wins Jets. Sorry, Bengals. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant, Josh. No, I was just really poking at the Bengals fans. I was just trying to get a reaction. We've got the Los Angeles Rams versus the Houston Texans over here. Guys, there were a couple of main things I wanted to touch on here. The very first one, Robert Woods, again, is seeing a little bit more involvement. He only had three receptions, brought it in for a touchdown. He also had three carries and got a rushing touchdown. But off those three receptions, he did have nine targets in this game. So he's getting more and more involved in this offense, kind of like we expected after that slow start. Didn't think it would keep continuing. So I want to play our favorite game. We're going to do a little bit more. This is another confusing player, right? Who's trending upward? A trending upward confusing player. Who would you rather have rest of season? Michael Pittman was the first name I had written down. Robert Woods or Michael Pittman? Here's the thing. I almost made it. Robert Woods and Michael Pittman when we were talking about Michael Pittman, but I just, I didn't have an answer. That's why I didn't do it. I think I'm still ever so slightly, ever so slightly leaning Robert Woods in this high powered Rams offense with Matthew Stafford just killing it. He looks awesome. He looks awesome. So it's so close though. It's so, they're neck and neck. Jail? I hate this question. Eileen Robert Woods just. I do as well. And the names are going to go slightly down, but we're starting with Michael Pittman. Eileen Robert Woods as well. Now, what about Marquis Brown? Hollywood or Robert Woods? Robert Woods with Brushad Bateman taking away some of the targets that I think Hollywood was getting. While they don't, they're not the same receiver at all. And Hollywood's going to be great. He's still going to be a wide receiver. I want to start it slightly Robert Woods, but again, they are bunched up so much. Michael Pittman, Robert Woods, and Marquis Brown for me. Jail, what about you? I am going to go Marquis Brown. Target shares is a decent amount higher. And he's just shown it so far. Okay. Let's go. Let's go one more name. I'll throw one more name out there. Cortland Sutton or Robert Woods the rest of season. Robert Woods, for sure. For me, that's the easiest one so far. That's the easiest one? For me, yes. He's the only name I've thrown out so far that is currently outscoring him on the season. Just to throw some context in there, Cortland Sutton's the only one that's ahead of him. Fantasy turn scored up to this week. Marquis Brown has more than Robert Woods. Oh, you're right. That's completely false what I just said. I forgot I said Marquis Brown. Michael Pittman has less than him. I guess it's Marquis Brown, like top five wider-sever on the season. Yeah. He's like number six overall prior to this week. Yeah. I mean, with just today, Cortland Sutton, four targets, two receptions, 40 yards. I'm with Judy back too. I'm just, I'm worried. Terri has a 10. So, I mean, those are three startable wider-severs. Those are wider-severs that people are putting into their lineups week in, week out for the most part. So, that shows me that there's a little bit more confidence in Robert Woods going forward the rest of season, where after those first two, three weeks, people were benching him. Putting him on the score. I'm glad to see Robert Woods with a bit of a bounce back here. Van Jefferson, though. I know we've talked about him. We put out some videos, waiver wire pickup. He had six targets in this game as well. How do you guys view Van Jefferson as, this is a high-powered offense, like Josh said. He's getting targets. Six targets in a game. We just said that was enough for T. Higgins, for me to think that supports his valuation. Josh, how do you feel about Van Jefferson? Is he a startable wide receiver? He did just get hurt in this game. I don't know how serious the injury was exactly, but I know he, okay. So, Shawn McVeigh said that Jefferson is expected to be okay. So, that's good news. Yeah. Van Jefferson, he's startable. I still don't have confidence to put him in my lineup and feel good about it. Jail, are you in the same place? Yeah, he's a wide receiver, 44, in PPR leagues, up until this game in the season. He's an emergency flex guy. Yeah. I kind of view him how I think we were viewing Michael Gallup going into this season. This high-powered Cowboys offense, the third wide receiver, a startable fantasy option, but not the one or the two that you're most excited about starting. I think he's a startable player as the season in that back-end wide receiver three range. I think he's a wide receiver three. I'm a bit more bullish on him, but I like Van Jefferson, and he's been getting more involved. Dennis has a question for us guys involving Ridley. So, as we mentioned earlier, Ridley said he was stepping away from football for the time being. Before we even comment on it, hopefully that he figures out whatever he's going through. Like, I know that must have been a tough decision for him, something he's dedicated his life to, to step away from. But just looking forward, what do you guys expect from this? Do you think he's going to miss the rest of the season? A couple of games, if you've got him on your fantasy rosters, are you dropping them or just holding for the time being? I can't drop them. I can't do it yet. I need more information to come out before I am dropping what I expect to be when he's healthy and playing a top, easily a top 20 receiver, right? Top 15 receiver. We expected top five maybe coming into the season. He's got all the talent in the world.  I can't see a world where they make him IR eligible in fantasy leagues. He's not hurt. It's an injury of reserve, so... If your league allows players who are out to be in the IR, then I believe you should be able to slot him in there. But Josh is right. Not all leagues are like that, you know? And so I can't really imagine that he would put out this announcement and say this without expecting to miss most of that rest of the season. Yeah. If he's just planning to miss a couple of weeks, I don't think he would say I'm stepping away from football. So at this point, I think it's most likely he's going to miss a season long-term. I don't know. Only he can really answer that. Yeah. I'm with Josh. I'd hold him as long as possible, as long as you can, wait for more news. But it doesn't look good for his rest of the season. There's a good chance we don't see him on the field again for the rest of 2021. But Calvin Ridley, hopefully this time away can be good for you. Figure some stuff out. We're rooting for you, man. Guys, before we move on to our next game, there was one more thing I wanted to address in this Houston game, and that was Mark Ingram has left the Houston Texans. But are any of the Houston Texans rushing options startable? Like startable at all going forward? Brandon Cooks, absolutely. No, rushing options. Oh, rushing. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. There's not a running back. You would start here, right, Jail? No, I know people are excited for Philip Lindsey, David Johnson. You can't start a single one of these running backs. No, Philip Lindsey, three carries for eight yards. No touchdowns. David Johnson, two carries for four yards. Oh, my gosh. Rex Burkhead got the most work. And you know who got the second most work? The most attempts, actually. Scottie Phillips, yeah, are all our favorite running backs. Yeah. Just fade the entire Houston Texans backfield. There's nothing else we need to say there. I just wanted to make sure. They have a game strip won't ever be in their favor, I can't imagine. Scottie Phillips. Maybe once your rod comes back. Don't be excited about the Houston backfield because there's one less person there. There's not value to be had in my eyes. Guys, the next game we are moving on to is the Miami Dolphins versus the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo coming out on top 26 to 11. Yeah. And Buffalo was 14 and a half point favorites coming into this game. They covered the spread with that last minute touchdown by Josh Allen. But it was a competitive game, actually most of the game. I think the whole, we barely saw this if you were watching Red Zone. It was three to three, most of the first half. It was kind of crazy. But on the Miami side of the ball, to a heavy fine game, you know, from a fantasy perspective, he ran around a little bit. He scored a rushing touchdown, but an NFL perspective, it was, eh, eh, it left you wanting more, I believe. There was not much of a rushing game, not that we really expected it against this Bills defense, but Miles Gaskin, again, he was usable. He got three catches, 19 yards, 12 attempts for 36 yards, not beautiful, not beautiful, but it looks to be the lead back for the Dolphins, which is something positive you can take away from this, I think. But the big thing I wanted to focus on, Mike Asicki, he had his game. But Devonte Parker, he got a ton of targets, 11 targets, I believe, eight catches, 85 yards. He was by far the most productive receiver for this team. The most productive player, you might say. Does Devonte Parker really hurt Jalen Waddle's effectiveness as upside? Can you play Jalen Waddle with confidence with Devonte Parker in there? Because I think we were kind of feeling good about Jalen Waddle in this offense. But now, after seeing this game, I know he got the targets, but I don't know, Simon, what do you think? Yeah, it limits his upside. I think you hit it right on that. You can still start Jalen Waddle, but Devonte Parker does limit that upside. I think we'll see Devonte Parker weeks. I think we'll see Waddle weeks. It's going to depend where the touchdowns go. They're both going to be involved. It's another receiver for two at a target. It's an upside limiter, but not a fantasy death sentence that Devonte Parker is back. Yeah, I think we saw a bigger impact to Mike Asicki's targets, right? Great point. Four targets this week. Well, Jalen Waddle had one more target than Devonte Parker like Josh said. I don't know that it might limit Waddle's ultimate upside, but I don't think, from a fantasy perspective, it impacts him too much. I think he's still the one on this offense, but you might see these other ancillary options like Mike Asicki. I was going to say maybe Miles Gaskin, but not really. The thing is, are you benching Mike Asicki? Is this? No, no, no, no. Of course not, but you might see that his upside limited with more receiving options on the field. I just don't even know if I want to play Jalen Waddle, honestly, personally. I mean, it really makes me hesitant starting him. I mean, in PPR you can, he's getting the targets, but I'm concerned about his upside. So going into this week, he was the wide receiver 20 in PPR formats. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, let me double check that. Jalen Waddle. Jalen Waddle, yeah, wide receiver 20. I don't expect that to continue. I think that drops. He drops into wide receiver three conversation instead of a wide receiver two, but that's still a startable fantasy play. And I do realize this was a, this is a great Bill's defense, right? This is a great Bill's defense. So I still want to see what happens to come, right? Yeah, that's a great point, Josh. Let's see how he does against Houston. After that, he does a Baltimore. She's also not a great match up, but yeah, I do think that we have to take the match up into account here. Yeah, absolutely. But on the other side of the ball, the Bills, they ended up doing Bill's things. It was a slow first half for them, but Josh Allen, he had a hell of a game still with 264 passing yards, two touchdowns and nine rushing attempts for 63 yards and a touchdown on the ground. So, you know, Josh Allen, he's a great quarterback, especially for fantasy. Zach Moss, he again continues to be the lead running back for this team. He actually got seven catches for 46 yards while Devin Singletary seems to be a little bit of an afterthought. What do you think there guys, like is Devin Singletary dropable in leagues? I personally want to hold onto him just in case something were to happen to Zach Moss, but outside of that, I don't think you can do much with Devin Singletary. I have trouble dropping a running back with that clear of a path, two touches. Know what I mean? Like he's not getting them now, but there's a very clear path. We can perfectly outline what leads Devin Singletary to being fantasy relevant. And with the state of running back right now, I have a hard time dropping him. If you can avoid it, I'm holding on to him, but he's not startable. Yeah, do you agree there, Joe? Yeah, I do. I mean, Devin Singletary was more efficient on the ground in this game again than Zach Moss. The lack of receiving work and the fact that Zach Moss is essentially splitting carries. Him and Singletary are splitting carries. It really lists limits what Devin Singletary can do for you. I'd stash him if you can. I would be fine dropping him if you need to. Maybe try to trade him. Yeah. The white receivers, I got to be honest with you guys. It feels exactly like the Arizona Cardinals, okay? They have a great quarterback that can run the football. They have one wide receiver that you think should be the obvious one and Deondre Hopkins, Stefan Diggs, but the rest of the wide receiver core is very good at the same time. And you don't know who to start week in and week out. Cole Beasley just had another 13-target game. This is his third week with 13 targets, but then he has three weeks with like two targets. So like absurd. It's a frustrating situation, both the Arizona Cardinals and the Bills. I think they're exactly the same. You just don't know who to start week in and week out. Other than Deondre Hopkins and Stefan Diggs, you have to start those guys. You have to. Do you agree? It's kind of the same situation almost, more or less. Yeah, it's very similar. We've seen Stefan Diggs targets go down. Last three games, his target share. On the season, 25.2% of the offense target shares. I'm sorry, 25.2% of the offensive targets. Last three games, 20.9%. So it is trending down. Cole Beasley's on the other hand has gone up. I think this is just going to be something that fluctuates. Stefan Diggs is definitely more of that guy. Like I would expect him to have less targets, but those targets to be higher quality. I know manual Sanders didn't do anything in this game, but of the secondary receiving options in this offense, I still trust Emmanuel Sanders the most. This seemed like a slam dunk stardom game. So I did in a lot of places. And you know what? Whenever there's a great matchup, I'm going to keep starting him. He has shown us that he can be a, like he's got the upside of a multiple touchdown kind of game if the targets go his way. That's the kind of receiver I want to throw in on a bye week. You know what I mean? And I've got a little bit more trust in him based on what we've seen so far this season than I do in Beasley or Davis. I know they had better games this week. Definitely Davis. I still, I don't trust what Davis is doing personally. But he got the touchdown and that's pretty much it for this game, guys. Yeah, I don't have anything else to add on this game. So let's go ahead and move on to our next one. The Philadelphia Eagles. Hello, the Russian game for the Eagles. Holy cow. Took down the line. So wait, when the Eagles had a great game, that means Kenneth Gamewell had a great game. Oh yeah, the Eagles had a great game and they scored four rushing touchdowns, I believe. So Kenneth Gamewell definitely had a great game, right, Jail? Yeah, totally. Right, yeah, definitely. No, it didn't. Boston Scott led this backfield, along with Jordan Howard. I believe they both got two touchdowns, but not mistaken. They all got about the same amount of attempts, though. That's the crazy part. Did. What happened to Kenneth Gamewell? Josh, tell us. I don't know. Okay, he didn't get the valuable touches and he wasn't efficient with the touches he did get. In my mind, they kind of envisioned Kenneth Gamewell as this middle of the field, between the 20s kind of scat back that they could use for some dump offs.  But then when they got to close to the goal line, Jordan Howard's obviously a big body back that they just activated now that Miles Sanders is on the IR. So it kind of makes sense that Jordan Howard got goal line touches, but Boston Scott, he's more or less kind of similar to Kenneth Gamewell. So it's confusing to me. It's very confusing. But I just think that Boston Scott looked better out there. That's what it was. So which of these running backs should fantasy managers be rostering? Or which of these running backs should fantasy managers be looking at to plug in their lineup, their fantasy lineup next week? Gamewell. I'm still sticking with Gamewell. This was a 44 to 6 game. Gamewell is a receiving back. That's where his value comes from, from his receptions. The Eagles won 44 to 6. They had no need to use the receiving back in a game like this. He got the 13 carries, wasn't efficient with them, but where his value has come from and will continue to come from is that receiving work. This game script completely took him out of the game in that aspect. Gamewell is going to be valuable going forward. Man, was this just a gut punch to fantasy managers everywhere? Like Miles Sanders goes out, everyone plugs Gamewell in and then the Eagles come out and just went 44 to 6. Like, it was the perfect storm to make it just an awful week for fantasy for Gamewell, but I still have confidence in him going forward. I'm personally not starting any of these running backs. That's fair. I do. I'm still bullish on Gamewell. I'm with Simon, but I also agree with Josh. You got to be hedging a little bit and I would not be starting Gamewell next week if I don't have to because I want to see if it's only this game script, if there's some sort of trend here with them bringing Jordan Howard and everything. Devonta Smith, he had one reception on three targets, 15 yards, almost all the Eagles receiving options were Duds this week. Is this a GameScript situation, kind of like Gamewell, you guys think? Yes, it was. Like Simon said, coming in just a minute or two ago, they were destroying the entire game. It wasn't even clips. They didn't need their wide receivers to do much. They didn't need to put Jalen Hertz in horrible situations that caused turnovers. Jalen Hertz, he had a fine game. He was rushing seven attempts for 71 yards. So, but only nine completions, 14 passes. That kind of sums it up right there. Yeah, that's not very much at all. And I meant you did come in here in the game. Didn't affect much. Probably not much insight to take away from this game, considering that they most likely won't be in games like this very often going forward. Yeah. I do want to say that Balson Scott and Jordan Howard, they were getting those goal line carries early in the game before it was a blowout. So, I think you can take that away. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think you could at least look at that and be like. There should be concern for sure. Yeah. Now, on the lion side of this ball, lions, oh, and eight lions now, or seven lions. Yeah, oh, and eight. Oh, and eight. That is unfortunate. Khalif Raymond. He's a name who we've been talking about a lot in the last few weeks as the target leader in this offense. He posted a dud. I'm on our St. Brown. He was the only wide receiver on the team with fantasy points this week. What do we do with this lion's receiving core? Are any of them trustworthy or even worth rostering at this point or throwing anything to line up? I said it last week and I'm going to say it again this week if you have to start one of them, it's Amon Ross St. Brown. I know Khalif Raymond has been involved, but Amon Ross, the receiver I want to start, his targets have been more consistent. Do you want to start him, though? No, absolutely not. Yeah. But if you have to start an option from this team, it's Amon Ross for me.  All of them. Get him. I don't want him. I want Yandre Swift and Chiju Alkins and the rest of the people can go. Yeah, go. Yeah, yeah. To the waiver wire. To the waiver wire. You know what I'm getting at. Now, the rookie running back, Jamar Jefferson. He gets to see his first NFL action this week with Jamal Williams being inactive. Nice job. Should fantasy managers be at all keeping an eye on Jamar Jefferson or is this more of just we needed someone to, we needed a warm body to fill in for Jamal Williams? I have no interest in redraft. That's for sure. Maybe in dynasty you can pick him up. Like he looked decent enough today to give me a reason to throw him on the back of a dynasty bench, but in redraft, no. He was a, he was a fill in. Someone started him against me in a dynasty.  He's starting Jamar Jefferson. And he got any Volker touchdowns. Two carries for six yards and one touchdown. What a stat line. I know. I know. I'm still going to win that fantasy game. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, I just so cool. I was kind of disappointing in the moment. It was. Yeah. Really? I mean, DeAndre Swift is like what stands out. He didn't really have a great game, but you know, I'm not, I'm not nervous about it. I'm not nervous about it though. No, you can't be tuned. It's DeAndre Swift. You're going to keep on starting them week in, week out. Yeah, he's clearly the guy here. Yeah. Okay, guys, before we move on to our next match, if we had a couple of questions in the chat, Logan wants to know, keep McKissick through the buy or drop him for Kenyon Drake? I'm keeping McKissick. Yeah. If you don't need to drop him for a start on the buy week, I'm keeping McKissick. And I think Josh Jacobs is probably going to end up playing this next week, especially having the buy this week. So Kenyon Drake key. While Josh Jacobs is healthy, I don't have any interest in playing Kenyon Drake myself. Bars in the talk has a question for us. I'm starting Zeke. I need a flex. Pollard, Osborn or Daryl Williams. Full PPR thanks. It's Daryl Williams, right? Yes. You guys agree? Yeah, yeah. You take the starting running back and you run. That's what you're doing here. He's going to get the most touches, most likely out of these guys unless something happens to Zeke, in which case you're probably screwed anyways. So start Daryl Williams. Yeah. Okay, guys, speaking of JD McKissick, with the question that we just answered, we are going to be moving on to the Washington football team versus Denver Broncos game real quick. And the first thing I wanted to talk about was actually JD McKissick and Antonio Gibson. It was both of them together. So Antonio Gibson has been dealing with what was it, a stretch fracture in his shin. Said he was a full go. The Washington football team has said he was a full go. But I feel like we have seen a change in how he's being used in this offense. Zeke had eight attempts, three targets. And JD McKissick had the inverse, three attempts, and eight targets. So Josh, if you have to pick a running back to start, do you want the one with eight attempts and three targets or three attempts and eight targets? Hey, you're pigeoning on me. I know, I'm taking it out of context. But the point I'm trying to make is that these... I'll take the one with the targets. The targets. Targets are very, very valuable in fantasy. And McKissick is showing yet again that he's going to continue to be used in that way. Jail, how do you view McKissick rest of season as a plug-and-play running back and emergency start running back? I think I would put him probably in the RB3 category. There's a chance that I'm wrong on that because we don't know what's going to go on with Antonio Gibson's injury, how that's going to affect him. But as of now, I'd view him as that back-end RB2, high-end RB3 type of player in PBR formats. If we're being honest, the Antonio Gibson injury doesn't really affect JD McKissick's value that much in my mind based on what we've seen so far. Patterson is getting the carries that Gibson isn't. Not McKissick. McKissick's still getting three carries with the Gibson injury. Patterson's the back that raises in value. But Gibson is a good pass-catching back. While Patterson I think is a little bit more of that classic back, Antonio Gibson was a wide receiver in college. So you would envision Antonio Gibson taking some of that receiving or to targets away from JD McKissick, if he was completely healthy. Yeah, we've seen McKissick's targets go up a bit over the last three or so weeks since Gibson has been injured, but Gibson also has had a pretty consistent target count around two and three pretty much since week two. So I don't know if it's fully Gibson's, you know, Gibson is the result of McKissick's targets going up. Yeah, I'm with you, Jail. I think McKissick is the result of McKissick's targets going up. The Washington football team obviously prefers them as they're receiving back. And you know what? I didn't project that going into the season. I'm taking a full L on that one. And those of you who drafted McKissick, great job. I think he's an awesome plug-and-play receiving back option that you could have gotten late rounds and drafts. And I think if Gibson does go out, then like Josh said, that's like three, two to three targets a game added on to McKissick's count most likely, which is still going to be, it's going to matter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. On the other side of this ball. I think it's already affecting him right now is what I'm saying. I think the injury right now, there would be more targets going Gibson's way if he wasn't dealing with the same. I think, yeah, I think you're right on that. Yeah. I want to talk about the backs on the other side of this ball, guys. And I had a moment today. I've been waiting for the change to happen between Javante Williams and Melvin Gordon for it to shift that direction. And you know what, I think I'm here to say that we're not going to see that change this season. Melvin Gordon is doing exactly what the Broncos are asking of him. He's performing well. He's doing well for fantasy managers. I don't know if we're going to see a switch to Javante Williams taking over this backfield this season. Josh, I know that's what we've, or at least I've been projecting forward that it'll switch as the season goes on. Do you think that switch still takes place, or is this role for Melvin Gordon pretty secure rest of season? I think the switch could take place, but it would be, you know, maybe Melvin Gordon's getting 60% of the work right now and Javante Williams is getting 40%. Maybe that flips. Maybe Javante Williams after their buy in week 11. And that's a lot of the time when we see rookie running backs really take over the starting roll at running back. Maybe after their week 11 buy, Javante Williams starts getting more work than Melvin Gordon, but Melvin Gordon's not going away. He's a talented running back. And Javante, but I will say Javante Williams looks so freaking good out there when he does get the work. I understand why people like, want Javante Williams out there. It makes a lot of sense, but at the same time, Melvin Gordon's not going away. Yep. Guys, on the Broncos side of this ball as well, we had an addition back to this offense this week. Jerry Judy, but it did not come with much fanfare in the way of a great fantasy performance. Four targets, four receptions, 39 yards. Are you worried about Jerry Judy rest of season, or was this just the Denver passing game couldn't really get it going in this game? Oh, yeah.  So we got, you got a temper excitations and they didn't pass to anyone. I mean, that was the most, Jerry Judy had the most receptions out of any wide receiver on the scene. Yeah. And I was nervous. I was hesitant starting him this week, his first week back regardless. I wanted to see what happened. And, you know, it's encouraging for catches, 39 yards. Like you said, the most catches of all the receivers, it's encouraging. I think you can throw him in your flex, but it makes me a little nervous for him going forward. I'm right there with Jail. I'm a little bit encouraged by this, not discouraged. He was, he had the most catches on the team, like you guys said, in a game that was not great to any of the receiving options. I think by end of season, he's the one on this team. Coralyn Sutton being maybe a 1B, but I view Jerry Judy as the one on this team going forward. But man, what a disappointing week. We are going to move on to our next game, guys, unless you have anything else. The Tampa Bay versus New Orleans Saints game. New Orleans came out 36 to 27 with a confusing win over the Buckingham years. Yeah. And New Orleans was not expected to win this game whatsoever. They were actually up. What? They were four point underdogs going into this game and they pulled it out. Tom Brady, he made some mistakes. He made some mistakes, right? But on the Buccaneer side of the ball, Tom Brady still had a great fantasy game. He was still a guy you wanted to plug and play. Leonard Fournette was probably the most disappointing part of this Tampa Bay Buccaneer's offense. Maybe Mike Evans, you could say, but he scored that touchdown. So I'm not going to say he was disappointed, but Leonard Fournette really didn't put it together. He didn't get the attempts. And we haven't really seen the Buccaneers be downing games as much. And it's probably a result of that. And that's why we saw Giavione in order to on the field a little bit more. You guys nervous about Leonard Fournette at all? How about you, Jail, or Simon, whatever? He should have had a touchdown in this game. He fumbled it right there at the goal line. Yeah, I saw that. And then if he has a touchdown, then we're totally fine with this, right? We go, oh, he didn't get as much work, but he got a touchdown and we're cool with it. I'm not worried about Leonard Fournette. He seems to be the RB one in this offense, pretty clearly at this point. And that's a running back you're going to start in fantasy. Yeah. I'm still comfortable with Leonard Fournette myself, too. Jail, you have a different opinion here? No, no. He's the clear one on this pretty high-powered offense, apart from today, I guess. Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with Leonard Fournette. I got a good question for you. Oh, I mentioned Lord Leonard Fournette the rest of season. I did it to you guys. I am taking Fournette still. Fournette, yeah. Yeah, it's Fournette for me as well. Yeah, fair enough. You guys know where going into this game Fournette is ranked on the season? Like he is the RB blank on the season prior to this week's games. RB nine, nine. Josh nailed it. He is the RB and the DPR formats going into this week. Jail, I was this close to saying nine. You get nine in before. Damn, yeah, no. I knew it was up there.  I knew it was up there. But also in this team game, of course, God would look so freaking good today. 12 targets. That's three times. Three times Mike Evans targets. Take all the stats out of it. Just the way he looked on the field. He looked so fast like the cuts he was making. He just he looked like a superstar receiver out there. And I am with Antonia Brown, guys. Is he the wide receiver one on this team? Let's say Antonia Brown is healthy next week. I'm saying I'm saying I'm with you, Jail. Yep. Chris Govins is hesitant. I'm not saying it. I don't know. I have a hard time ranking these three receivers. I do too. 1A, 1B, 1C. Like, I don't know. Maybe some weeks he's the wide receiver one. Know what I mean? And then some weeks it's Antonia Brown. Yeah. And Gronk was knocked out of this game. That sucked to see. I did start him in one league myself. Same. So I'm upset about that. Yeah, faxed as I'm really, maybe it's correlated to the ribs somehow, but who knows. But outside of that, on the other side of the ball, James Winston got knocked out of the game. Yeah, he did. That was concerning to see. I know. And Trevor Simeon came in and he filled in just fine. Just fine, honestly. Like, he had a game, James Winston could easily have had. You know, I don't think Trevor Simeon has quite the arm that James Winston has, but maybe he's more willing to check it down, making safer decisions. So I like this for that same offense. Alvin Kamara, he had a game we all expect, more or less expected. He had an Alvin Kamara game. 19 carries, 61 yards at a touchdown, three catches for 15 yards. Mark Ingram was slightly involved. We just talked about him earlier. Yeah, outside of Alvin Kamara. Yeah, he was slightly involved. Yeah, six carries, 27 yards is not bad. Plus two receptions, 25 yards.  Yeah, I might in a pinch. And his first game in New Orleans, I only expect that usage to go up. Got 7.2 fantasy points in PPR, which isn't anything, but like I said, emergency, I'm not playing Mark Ingram. I doubt there's a week I'll play Mark Ingram this year or one two. But we'll see, we'll see. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. He was great with more Alvin Kamara five years ago with the Saints. The Drew Pleasant Reasons. Thunder and lightning, what was it? Josh, were you more likely to start Mark Ingram as what was the lead back in Houston or as the secondary role here in New Orleans? Lead back in Houston? Oh, no. That's both it's a bad situation regardless. But outside of, let's say outside of Alvin Kamara, I guess Mark Ingram, I was going to say, are you willing to start, do you want to start anyone on the Saints offense outside of Alvin Kamara? J.L. might say Mark Ingram. I'm not. But I don't want to start any of these guys. I'm not at all. The defense. I'll start Saints BST, but nothing else. I mean, Mark has Callaway in an emergency. I think you can throw in there, but that's about it. Yeah, but outside of that, there's really not much to talk about on the same side of the ball.  Right. There we go. In the Saints, it was fun watching the game today because it felt like every time they called out a Saints player name, like 90% of people watching the game went to go Google them real quick to see who the person was. There were just so many names called today where everyone was like, oh, I didn't even know they were the NFL. Before we move on to the last game, we're going to cover guys. Dennis and you said he's finally going to lose his first game and he drafted CMC, Antonio Gibson, Calvin Ridley, and Chris Carson in the first four rounds and you were undefeated, Dennis. How? You were making the waiver moves.  I bet you grabbed Mike Williams. I'm just making guesses. That's like zero RB, zero RB, but you only got one pick in the first four rounds and that pick also isn't playing. Like you just like zero anything. Yeah, man, Dennis, that is an impressive start to the season for you there. Guys, we're going to move on to the Jacksonville versus Seattle game here now. Seattle winning 31 to 7 in this one. Yeah, this was an interesting game. I guess it went sort of how we were all expecting. Gino Smith actually looks pretty good in this game though. 20 completions on 24 attempts, 195 yards, two touchdowns. It's a pretty average. And rushing touchdown. Yeah, and a rush to touchdown. It's a pretty average, if you're just looking at the box score, but he passed the eye test. He looked good in the game. Alex Collins had 10 carries for 44 yards. He's the clear running back one on this team. Do you guys disagree with that? No, I didn't agree with it. Can we expect Alex Collins to be the leader on the bar and Chris Carson return? I think the rest of the season, if Chris Carson, let's say he's out the rest of the season, we are going to see more or less what we saw in this game, where Alex Collins is going to get the most carries. I'm very confident about that. But there's going to be other running backs involved, more involved in the passing game. DJ Dallas is going to get touches, Rashad Penny, Travis Homer, all these guys are going to get touches. So Alex Collins is the running back. I would want to start if I had to start one. And I think he's startable, but he's probably going to have to get a touchdown. Simon, would you rather have Alex Collins or my Davis? Alex Collins. Me too. What about James Conner? James Conner. James Conner. All right. That's what that line is. James Conner. And the receiving option to get Tyler Lockett, 13 targets, 12 perceptions on 13 targets, 142 yards, no touchdowns. What? Tyler Lockett had a game. He looked unguardable in this game. I don't know what was going on. I don't know if they were targeting a specific corner or something in the secondary, but Tyler Lockett literally looked like they couldn't keep up with him. It's the Jaguars. It's the Jaguars. It's the Jaguars. I'm just saying what you saw watching this game. No, you're right. He looked awesome. Awesome. Amazing. And DK Metcalf will create himself, you know? Six targets, six perceptions, 43 yards and two touchdowns for DK Metcalf. My God. Oh, cool touchdowns. My God. DK Metcalf. Metcalf. It's in the game. All right. Moving on to the other side of this game, Jacksonville. Kind of what we've been seeing from Jacksonville. James Robinson got hurt in this game. Yeah, he went out. James Robinson and Carlos Hyde saw an increased workload. How are you guys feeling about this running back core going forward? Are you picking up Carlos Hyde?  In case Jamal, I'm sorry. James Robinson misses time. Josh and I are shaking our heads different directions. I know. I'm going to go with the no first. That way we get the negativity out there. Yeah. Not that this offense has looked good this season, but it looked like it could do something. When James Robinson left this game, this offense looked unbelievably lost. Like more lost than I've seen them look this entire season. You know what? I expect that to continue without James Robinson. I have zero interest in any of the running backs in this running game besides James Robinson. If he's out, I'm hands off on the running game for Jacksonville entirely. I'm going to tell you why. Because Carlos Hyde got eight targets for six sketches in 40 yards. He took that James Robinson role. James Robinson got knocked out with an ankle injury. If he's out for a significant period of time, Carlos Hyde is probably the number one waiver pickup this week. For me, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Are you going to throw him in any of your fan dual lineups, Josh, given that this team is not the best, some have said. Who are they playing next week? Probably not. But just the fact that he got six catches. They're playing the Bills next week.  But the fact that he got six catches, it shows something. It shows that they trust him in the receiving game. They trust them as that third downback. They trust them as that dump off easy catch run player. And no other running back was nearly as involved as Carlos Hyde. So Carlos Hyde is the next man up for this offense. And whatever that may be, this offense, the Jaguars, like I said earlier. Yeah. No, I agree with you. I think so looking at the receiving options in this game, we have Arvin Jones, seven targets, five receptions for 35 yards, not. No bueno. No bueno. Jamal Agnew. 12 targets, six receptions, 38 yards and a touchdown. And Dan Arnold, 10 targets, eight receptions, 68 yards and no touchdowns. How are you guys feeling about these receiving options? Are you, I know you two have both been up on Marvin Jones this past season, been high, I should say high on Marvin Jones's past season. Is that, is that resolve shaking a little bit? Or is it, you still feel that way? Is he still the wide receiver? It's the Jaguars. The Jaguars. Yeah, I mean, Jaguars. And if I have to start a receiver for the Jaguars, it's going to continue to be Marvin Jones for me. Yeah. Like it was great seeing this from Agnew and Arnold, but I have a lot more trust in what I've seen from Marvin Jones throughout this season so far. I'd rather not start any of these receivers, but if I have to pick one, it's Marvin Jones. And I think he's a fine start, usually week to week. Simon Ditto. Ditto. So Dan Arnold from the tight end position, he's, you know, that's a, that's a decent number. Throw him in there with the, the, the guys that you can plug in in any given week.   And I think I'll go Dan Arnold this week. Yeah, no, absolutely. Yep. Ditto. Like he doesn't stand above that group for me. You know what I mean? But he's right there in that group. That's fair. I think Arnold rest of season has hit me too. Yeah, right. I mean, just because the offense, but it is close. I'm a little more bullish on, on Dan Arnold. He's a, he is a good prospect. And like, there's not many options here. Yeah. Hey, hey, it's the Jaguars. That's the little Jaguars. Dennis wanted to know if we had any, any opinions on streaming kickers for week nine. Dennis, I'm just going to tell you, we do not have any kicker experts here, unless Josh or JL suddenly became kicker experts. I'm definitely not a kicker expert. Um, start, start the best one, start the one that's going to score the most points. That, that would be my recommendation to you. No, I actually, it's probably, um, Crosby for me. I, I try to go to ones with, uh, like, uh, going up against a decent, but not great defense, but that's about where I stand on that one. High scoring game against the over under and whoever has the highest over under. Hey, how about that? There we go. Guys, guys, that is going to be it for our Sunday night recap. We've got some Sunday night football to go watch. So we'll let everyone go head over there before we go on a remind everybody, if you're watching this and you haven't done so already, hit that like button and don't forget to subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube and go follow them on Twitch. And if you haven't done so already, they got some awesome TikTok content creators out there as well. Go find FanDuel on TikTok and all the other socials as well. We are out of here for today, but we'll be back next Sunday as well, doing this again at seven p.m. So make sure to come join us then.  We will see you guys next week. Adios. Adios, everyone. Great to meet you. Have fun. Did you steal that sign, John?