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I want to say a quick word of thanks today to Dawn Butler MP. Now, Dawn Butler is an MP, obviously.  When a child is born, they are identified and observed in a particular sex.  Yes, she actually said that on national television. Now, keep in mind, she's not only an MP, but she's a senior Labour MP. She's a Labour front-bencher. And if Labour were in government, she would probably be a minister. And yet she's on TV saying, and I quote, babies are born without a sex. She was talking about the trans madness and the Labour Party's absolute commitment to all things peak trans. No matter how much it damages other people, no matter how absurd or unreasonable it may be, Labour is committed to trans 110%. They're alienating vast swathes of their core vote by doing this, but they're so disconnected and so bubble-ified and so arrogant that they can't see this. Now, I'm not thanking Dawn Buckler for revealing the complete commitment to the trans madness of the Labour Party. She's not the one to do that, or at least she's not the only one to do that. Labour's in the middle of a leadership election at the moment and all of them, all of the candidates, are just as committed as each other to the trans madness. Rebecca Long Bailey last week said that she would alter the law if she were Prime Minister to recognise self-identification. And that means, as we all know, that a person merely means to, needs to say, I am a man, I am a woman and then they are. It's like magic. So Rebecca Long Bailey committed to that. Keir Starmer, trans women are women, but Lisa Nandy, that salt of the earth, Northern lass who's going to bring some sanity to the Labour, to Labour and to the Labour leadership election, she was questioned a few days ago. I will link to all of these below. She was questioned a few days ago and she was asked specifically, should a convicted rapist be housed in a woman's prison?  I believe fundamentally in people's right to self-identity and I believe that the gender recognition act strikes the wrong balance in relation to that. So I think that crimes that are recorded should be recorded as that person wishes, having gone through that process, received support and self-identified. You asked about whether trans people should be in women's or men's prisons. Well, I think trans women are women and I think trans men are men. So I think that they should be in the process of choosing. So we know, we know, I'm not thanking Dawn Butler for revealing this because it's revealed all the time. What I am thanking her for is she's done something really very important here. She's not just revealed the trans madness in Labour and how committed they are, but she's revealed how thoughtless they are. Has she thought about this? Has Dawn Butler actually sat down and thought to herself the consequences, the repercussions for simply being able to say we are the opposite sex and becoming that opposite sex? Has she thought about the notion that children are born without sex? Has she given this any time? Has she discussed it? Has she learned about it? Has she studied it? She has done nothing of the kind. She is repeating slogans that get applause from the uber left of the Labour Party. That's all she's done. These are all mantras. This is virtue signalling on a grand scale. And Lisa Nandi exactly the same. She hasn't thought through men identifying as women. What she is saying is that any convicted rapist can identify as a woman, go into a women's prison and rape the women in there. She has thought nothing at all about the repercussions of this. This is simply repeating lines. They don't think. They don't care. They don't consider. We are dealing with, I don't even, political bots is a word I use. For people who hear something that gets applause and repeat it because they want those same applause. No thought is going into this at all. There's no consideration for who might be harmed by these decisions at all. These people are not fit to represent this great country. We must know that by now. And Richard Maidley, who was talking to Don Butler, said to her, but why is Labour shutting down debate on this? Because we've been out, we've had calls to expel transphobes from the party as well. That was Rebecca Longbailey too. And she was asked why is Labour shutting down debate on this? And she insisted, we're not shutting down debate on this, but debate can't be transphobic. So if you don't believe that trans women are women or trans men are men, that's transphobic. So you're free to have a debate, of course you are, as long as the starting point is trans women are women and trans men are men. It's a little bit like Islam, isn't it?  Islam is a part, it's a religion of open debate. As long as you, the starting point is that it's a religion of peace. Mohammed never did anything wrong. As long as you start there, you can debate all you like. Freedom, isn't it wonderful? We are in a, I don't know what to call it. My, the thing I keep calling it is a science fiction film. I genuinely cannot believe we are in a situation where all of the candidates for leader of the Labour Party are insisting that trans women are women.  But even more science fiction than that is a senior Labour member of parliament on television declaring that children are born without sex. That has to be enough. It has to be enough. Labour are not going to turn away from this. They are not going to become that party of the working people again. They are too far down the rabbit hole. And people are gradually but certainly realising this. The reduction in Labour's vote across the country symbolises that. And they still don't get it. They have no idea why they are becoming so unpopular. And that's the reason they are never coming back. If you want a sane political party that observes and recognises reality and truth and does not shut down or exclude or expel people for expressing an opinion, then join for Britain. We are coming for Labour. My ambition, I'm very ambitious, but my ambition is nothing less than to bring down the Labour Party and it can be done. It's like a gift they're giving us at the moment. If you are a Labour voter and you want sanity in politics, you want to not listen to your political leaders and think, what? What are they talking about? Then move away from the Labour Party. It's got to be done and it's got to be now. This is the end of the Labour Party. This was once a party for the working folk of this country. Now it will exclude you over gender identities in sanity. This is it. This is the end. Move away from them. Get on board with For Britain. The only party really, really committed to truth, reality, sanity and getting back to basics. People in the pub across this country on a Friday night do not care about transgenderism. They care about the fact that their kids are not safe anymore. They care about the fact that they are taxed and up to debt to the two eyes. This is what they care about and until a Labour re-addresses those issues and it won't, it's over. Get real. Let's get real. It's over for Labour. It's time to move on and I'm asking the Labour heartlands to reconsider. Look elsewhere. We will be in your area this coming May standing in local elections. Learn about us. Get on board. Better yet, stand for us and win a seat. Labour's done. That's it. It's over. But as long as you're having a debate without being transphobic then you can have a discussion and a debate. Trans women are women.


Oh look, I got this guy in Hasta. Guess what number that is? It's like number 19 or 18 I think. I don't know. Yikes. GG. Here we go. Can we do this? Exclamation point luck please. It's the B team badge. One in the middle is a B team badge. Okay. I have that on my death. Pilgrim boy. I need a Pilgrim boy badge I think. I think that's something that I need. Pilgrim boy badge. Okay. Welcome to Lag City. Lag City, Lag City, Lag City, Lag City, Lag, Lag, Lag, Lag. Look at all this luck. Hopefully we should do this. Exclamation point. The gods have spoken. Tyler is the best PvP I was has ever seen. Well that's good. That's good. That is a good. Exclamation point. Big luck. Oh my gosh. Yeah, Rose told us a story earlier. Rose told us a story earlier. Of how she was a, how you and her were screeching while Tyler was winning. Because, um, yeah. Because they're good. Those next level I bet they lost it. Oof. Good job. Um, okay. Let's see. Can we get it this time? That would be great. That would be great if we could get it this time. Exclamation point luck all the way would be great. You did amazing. I heard. It sounded like a great story. Absolutely great PvP match. Great plays there by the one, the only, Tyler Mythblade. Luke, zero, zero the hero. Tyler equals daddy for sure. For sure. Definitely. Wow, changing my bubble. Okay, I see how it is. Yikes. Um, Tyler is a myth, guys. A myth, yeah. Tyler is a myth. He's the best myth in the game, though. Tyler is the best myth. The myth school is slightly better because of Tyler. Otherwise it's trash, but otherwise if there was no Tyler it would be even more trash, you know. So it works. He's a god, he sure is. Well, GG. Chat, you better tell me. Better tell me if I'm gonna like this. Will I like this? Will I like this? If I get this, this is all because of Tyler. If I get it, it's all because of Tyler. I got it. It's about... Oh my gosh, I actually got it. Wow, under 20 runs. Tyler, Tyler, you have my blessing. You are the only reason I got this. Wait, there's senators. Get out of here. Get out of here. Where is it? There's blazing sun. I can blaze in the sun now. GG. Tyler and Zero are my two favorite people. Holy frick.


hello friends welcome back to another episode here on the channel I hope you're all doing great and for anyone new to the channel my name is Lee also known as Osiris today we are featuring mr. Flex himself Buzzwall he is one of the ultra beasts we had a request a little while ago and thank you to whoever that was and I'm sorry I don't have your message or name on top of the screen we've had a bunch of comments since then and trying to find it was very difficult but you know who you are thank you so much and I hope you enjoy this episode today with the buzzwall it is a very unique Pokemon one of the ultra beasts bug fighting type so it has a big weakness to flying which is probably one of the reasons why we haven't really seen it in the format or kind of sword and shield because max airstream such an issue and flying types are pretty strong now in this in this generation of course a lot stronger in previous kind of series where electric types and flying types weren't as prominent but we had things like togas that were always kicking around and so the team today kind of is a little bit well it's very centered around the buzzwall we've got trick room on p2 which definitely helps kind of support it we've got irian pulse on there to slow special attackers down in particular and then we go giggle it to help out with those big flying threats that buzzwall really doesn't like kind of going up against run the team off we've got Zapdos it gives the team a nice offensive electric outlet it gives you flying and alternative speed control with airstream there as well a fire type as well and also gives us a ground immunity to something like gigalith which definitely helps and and another switch in to gigalith with that flying resist which buzzwall doesn't like too much the one thing that buzzwall does have going for it is it's got sky high defense that so it can go up against things like a glass tree are pretty well especially in a trick room so I'm hoping in today's episode we'll be able to kind of get it going get it rolling get the momentum going with beast boost and stuff like that and pick up a couple of wins and really showcase the team it's always there's a poker face down in the description below if you want to check out the details of the team and if you stick around until the end of the episode I'll be throwing up a rental for this particular team so you can try the mr. flex out for yourself so without further ado friends hope you enjoyed today's episode and we'll get into our first match of today's video okay at first we have a mungas in Cineroo Galerian Zapdos Alcremie, Tokul and Reggie Alecki team interesting team it's not something you see every day but you can kind of make up some assumptions here obviously the Alcremie gonna have that decorate to boost things like the Galerian Zapdos in particular if it is scarfed if not it will be gone after things like Tokul it can decorate everything but you kind of want to decorate before your partner in Pokemon attacks so we've got to be looking at that potentially giving away an item on it as well we could potentially go in Cineroo here I think Tapu Finney is probably quite useful in this match along with Zapdos potentially so that would lead I just think the Zapdos is good against the Galerian Zapdos and a lot of ways and it can do a lot of work against the team in general got to watch out for Tapu sorry not Tapu Reggie Alecki because it will cause us a lot of issues I do want the terrain support for a munga spores and things like that can be pretty problematic and then Buzzwall to round off the team Buzzwall pretty threatened here but I still think it can do a job if it comes in at the right time and we'll just have to see how we get on this first one hopefully Mr. Flex can do it for us here and obviously not the most kind of conventional mix of Pokemon that we see but it's always nice to see like people being like innovative with with teams and things like that to try and catch you off and you've just got to kind of try and use the best of your knowledge base to have a engage what your opponent's trying to do like here you would say obviously decorate with the Galerian Zapdos is going to be the thing that what your opponent's trying to do. Intimidant not ideal here but we do have the opportunity to go for the Max Airstream here if we want we can go Max Airstream fake out into the Zapdos and might backfire on us because it might max that's the big problem so the other option here is go fake out into Alchemy you can pretty much guarantee that we'll be able to stop the decorated least and then the Max Airstream here should be enough to give us at least a jump on to the the Galerian Zapdos next turn if nothing else it kind of forced my opponent's hand to go for the Airstream themselves which into our Zapdos isn't gonna be effective and it's not likely at plus one to pick up the incident or although it depends on the item it depends what my opponent decides to go for of course but I feel like our hands are tied with our own Zapdos we have to go for the Max Airstream we have to go after the Zapdos here now my opponent could potentially switch Zapdos out keep it for later on in this game but then they forgot the kind of the boost they've just got so all things going well we might be able to just remove the Zapdos pretty quickly and it's one big kind of threat to our buzzwall of course now my my controller is low on health thankfully I have a nice wire here so excuse me while I try and maneuver this while this turn goes off and we are gonna see the Galerian Zapdos also Max this turn okay we're safe we're safe we've got a controller plugged in and we're gonna see the decorate I imagine that's what we'll see I don't know if we'll have enough to take down the Zapdos this turn of course it's massive open hand oh that's the other option of course as well fake out is useless but the Airstream is gonna be useful we should get it in two Airstreams just about probably just mind okay well see what they go for if they don't Airstream then they're in a bit of trouble that's quick okay that's kind of over that's that's all right that's all right buzzwall not in the best place to come in this next turn but could do some work and get help us get rid of the Zapdos with a double up because another Airstream will put the buzzwall no we won't outspeed tapu finny well though so we could muddy water an Airstream or moonblast an Airstream moonblasting is the safer option of course but we got an Airstream again yeah we got a moonblast moonblast the safer option and the thing is without creamy it doesn't really get anything like it doesn't get anything like tailwind trick room so there's no like speed control that can kind of catch us off guard here this should be enough not quite but like I say the Finney now will be able to outspeed the Zapdos and should get the moonblast and kick up the knockout so we should be okay there we go yeah and now we're in a good position to kind of get Finney either calm minding or just go after whatever comes in like Alecki probably comes in now which is a little bit awkward for us of course because Alecki can still do a lot of work especially helping hand-boosted but we have got the jump on it with Zapdos but a moon is coming in now this is where the terrain helps us out a bunch and did we calm mind here we could take the option to calm mind it might see us a little bit better again something like Alecki that could come in later now the problem is again obviously the decorate and the Zapdos is gonna be prone to go into sleep here just because we're not affected by the terrain so the sport can come out and do some work but the calm mind gonna be super useful whatever and that damage onto Amungus is really really good now Buzzwall is probably gonna be our saviour in this match I can see it happening now admit it's just hard switching to the next turn especially if we don't see a sport here which we probably will but we now should be able to take at least an attack off the of the Reggie Alecki yeah there's a spoil now the question is do we switch or do we just allow Zapdos to potentially wake up because that's that's the other option and maybe protect Finny this turn what do we just muddy water and moon blast problem is moon blasting here is a little bit risky because if they rage powder make the muddy waters the best option and heat waving as well now we are gonna stay asleep with Zapdos we've just got a hope that they go after Finny rather than Zapdos here yeah Amungus coming in I'll come you gonna hit the field once again that regenerate are gonna activate on the Amungus which makes it a little bit difficult for us obviously Reggie like he just protect himself that gives us a little bit of room to kind of wake up with Zapdos which is ideally what we want you know and the muddy water gonna hit that I'll come me a little bit harder obviously with that calm mind boost that we've got under our belt but we still need to be a little bit careful with helping hand and with with decorate as well you know come out but we do have the option now just to go for that moonblasting to the Reggie Alecki and also just hit that heat wave button with the Zapdos and we're gonna see that the boss wall in this match we've got to we've got to see it okay electro web coming out that's fine that just reduces the speed of Zapdos by one stage that does so much damage critical hit not ideal we need Zapdos to wake up here really that would be the best case scenario because the heat wave damage plus the moon blast will be enough and it is it looks like hmm yeah it looks like it's scoffed yeah it has to be scoffed because we were plus two with Zapdos or more will we plus three moon blast enough though so that's fine okay and if Zapdos wakes up here that's ideal okay plus one moon blast enough so that electro web crit really kind of there is okay Zapdos didn't wake up I just missed that completely don't know what I was looking at so the alchemy it had to be scoffed though because I would spend the Alecki right no it didn't outspeed what am I talking about let's just ignore that I said anything about anything being scoffed and will he wave and well mmm I don't know what I've done probably okay he was fine misses the alchemy hits the zap there the moon is which is what we want what we're gonna see what did we hit did we hit the moon blast button or did we hit the muddy water button I can't remember I'm so confused at the minute I'm like I'm so confused about this alchemy that yeah I'm not yeah this wasn't but it is enough it's all right it's all right it's all right the decorate not doing enough and the critical hit coming in and clean this one up I don't know what you guys are thinking at the what I'm thinking you know I don't even know what I'm thinking just chatting chatting but we haven't seen come on why would you do that why get the salt out we didn't even see buzz wall that's what makes it worse I wanted to get buzz wall on the field it's a buzz wall show today flex show well it's be sporting about it they might have had just internet issues which I've had plenty of times in the past will not make assumptions but good game to my opponent we'll jump into our next match of today's episode okay up next we've got a team of lander is theory and Grimsnall Charizard Glastria Tocall and Venus also pretty heavy Sun team here with the screen support from Grimsnall and no speed control really outside of Max Airstream potentially scary face on Grimsnall could be an option as well as Thunderwave there and but the Airstream from lander is Charizard gonna be the kind of main forms outside of the chlorophyll on the Venus so that's provided by the Sun from that Tocall okay I mean gigolith buzz wall have a really good time here especially if you can get a trick room set up which is totally possible because it doesn't look like there's too many options for my opponent to have something like taunt other than the Grimsnall but we can fake the Grimsnall out if it goes down that route and the biggest threat for P2 I think here would be definitely like Tocall Charizard lead for sure but then we could switch to something like gigolith and then have like buzz wall in the back to kind of deal with that and so yeah I think Incinero P2 buzz wall gig big gig is gonna help us we'll go with this we'll see what we can do in the second one today hopefully we can see a bit more of the buzzwall in this one because it is a team all about buzzwall and that's what we want to try and showcase see if we can catch will cat of fair of God and get the buzzwall gone I've got a feeling though gigolith might be the the star of the show but we'll see we'll see how it kind of plays out and we're gonna see landers and Grimsnall top and yeah we have I mean we got a nice way to fake out the Grimsnall turn one if we want gotta be a bit careful of course because the Grimsnall may carry fake out of its own and go for that and kind of shut down and waste that turn a fake out and allow the landers to get a turn like swordstands up or something or just an attack on to Incinero here but I feel like yeah fake out Grimsnall trick room is our best best option so let's see if we can we can pull it off yeah I would worry here a little bit about the landers yeah either switch and now we're gonna see probably talk all hit field well trained talk all but we should be able to get a trick room up the thing is we're not gonna be able to stop the screen support from the the Grimsnall course but we we're gonna be able to get gigolith into a nice position this next turn which is always useful my opponent's in the right thing they'll get in the landers of the field no they fake oh no no we got the trick room up what are we talking about what am I talking about yes I think it's parting shot how do we just do a hard switch the hard switch might be better you know hard switch to gigs and then go for did we just want damage I think I'm probably preferred damage onto Grimsnall here because talk all is gonna be way more threatened against the gigolith then the Grimsnall is so it's better to just get damage onto the Grimsnall as soon as we can and you've got to expect that the landers probably will rear its head back in at some point probably the talk all going out this next turn and after we see this screen set up the light screen set up from the Grimsnall then the eruption coming out not gonna be boosted by the Sun gigolith gonna be able to take it pretty well as along with the the poor going to at least we'll get a decent amount of damage onto the Grimsnall here now this next turn we've got the option where we could potentially max but don't know if I want to max just yet maybe just a rock slide and I try attack into the talk all is the best option because then we catch potentially the lander is coming in the talk all's got to talk all doesn't switch out interesting just reflect going up here okay you're on coming out just fine don't mind that at all and the rock slide gonna do a nice sizable amount of damage to both and not sizable does very little to the talk all it's very defensive rebuilt especially with that you own set there but the try attack oh and we get the freeze we get the freeze that's huge try attack such a horrible move at times and I'll see what the the residual kind of effect that it does have okay what do we do now do we just rock slide rock slide I think and get and get I kind of don't want to take p2 out I can prefer to get buzz wall out onto the fields here but I don't really want to force it if it's it's not super necessary you could see the talk all kind of switching again let's rock slide this time and then go for a try attack into Grimsnall naturally be enough to get the Grimsnall talk all gonna switch out now make sense Venus will coming in okay and Grimsnall switching out as well so the double switch here so lander is gonna come back onto the field it's a little up into Grimsnall the right decision for us on this occasion so let's see if we can but giggle it's shown how good it can be in this sort of matchup you know the screens are up my opponents kind of got that like buffer to help them out for sure but I think just holding off going for the max here is the best thing for us to do and now we've got the option where we can potentially pull in that's the problem the yarn there but I think we still switch buzz wall at this point maybe pull a double switch how many terms are trickering we've got one turn left the issue would be if the lander is max is here where I think you know we'll probably be better going for a recover it's just that the Venus or maybe a sleep powder here and a little bit of it yeah I think we're a bit gung-ho with keeping the the giggle if on the field there you know talk will come back in gonna overwrite the sand but that's it's still not the worst especially with the trickroom ending like the Venus or doesn't threaten buzz wall too much even though it is gonna max and it is gonna chuck out a G max vine lash I think into buzz wall slot may go after the P2 but the residual damage here not ideal but not the end of the world the other option here would have been like area and plus the the Venus or never really shut down any options so we are overlooking a few options here yeah G max vine lash in P2 okay residual damage not gonna be the best thing for a for buzz wall for sure not the worst either now what are we gonna go after this talk over this is where like Max Quake would have been ideal you know the tokens yeah frozen so it's probably not likely to move that's max hailstorm the venu do we bring in incinero here and I don't think so I think we probably better off maybe actually that's what we're gonna do we're gonna go max knuckle and we're gonna go trick room because if we get rid of the talk all and I trick room mode is like is is very very strong it's just whether or not like P2 will be able to take a vine last year it should be from the previous damage but as long as we can get rid like we get the plus one here which mitigates any intimidate coming in should get the talk all and then we get the trick room at the same time which would be pretty good for us max who's gonna be ideal it's not gonna take very much damage from that at all plus one will be very useful especially because we get yeah the beast boost here will be on top of that keepers it like plus one which is nice so we just need to make sure we get the talk I think it's just hung on I think it's just hung on I think it actually took that no oh my god oh my god it actually took that that's really bad for us that's really bad I can't believe it actually took that okay not so good not so good not so good nice wood and not so good at all I'll have to go for the hail storm and then go for recover and just hope that the talk all stays asleep here as stays frozen yeah it does okay we're all right then we're all right kind of all right yeah and then residual damage can take care of the talk all so we're pretty fortunate there with the freeze initially anyway but this just kind of making things a little bit easier not getting the beast boost there didn't help and still not really doing enough damage at all to the Venusaur you know the freeze just kind of yeah lock in this game for us really another max who's coming out but I mean at this point with the trick room up we're gonna be in a position where we can take the Venusaur down the next turn we should be able to and the talk will finally going down my point not having that option of the Sun anymore which is which is helpful and we still got intimidating the back with incinero which is always useful buzz while doing some work in this match at least we should get the Venusaur the next turn though 100% whether max max hail storm but even plus one you know the Venusaur taking it pretty well it is gonna be the end of its max turns and I think actually it's the reflect in the the light screen that are the big things here yeah I think max hail into the lander is we try attack into the Venusaur that should be enough to kind of get both and we still got yeah we still got plenty of options max hail storm into lander is and are we plus one with with p2 yeah we plus one so that's that's the other try attack gonna be enough to get it should be from this range even behind the light screen and that should lock it up and buzz wall you know okay the bait nothing trying to cycle that intimidate round which is fine because the try attacks should still be enough and maybe oh my god no way this is just I feel super bad for my opponent here because that's two freezes what is this okay this should be enough to get the grim snow no it's not like missing knockouts here there and everywhere my opponent's got the best cult team I've ever seen and we're just absolutely rinsing them with RNG abuse here we're gonna pick up two knockouts and off the the hail here buzz wall doing some work we're gonna continue said to say that but my opponent I feel yeah I mean I feel bad but it is but it is just one of those things isn't it it's like it's not they can't be helped and I just I can feel their frustration because I know how frustrated I would be in their position and because the buzz wall likely to go down there and even though we would have got the grim snow anyway but there would have been a little bit of a comeback for them to at least get that I think the big thing was obviously the the talk all yeah which was just really unfortunate you know and not ideal and now we're in a position where we can just ice punch ice punch and try attack and that should be enough we've still got the incinerator on the back that can kind of close the game out first my part in fair play to them not forfeit and so you've got to give them all the credit in the world for like for that you know because like at this point I would have probably snapped my my switch and thrown out the window and burnt my copies of sword and shield and many other things but fair play to them for playing it out and will cat do just have to say apologies about the the bad RNG there because it is a really unfortunate situation you know and sometimes it just can't be helped but thank you for being an amazing sport hopefully you guys at home enjoyed the match with all the orangey it's always good entertainment anyway and we'll hop over now and grab the the rental for you guys for today's team okay so here is today's rental code friends it is the buzzwall team and you know we got to see it do some work orangey aside it did do a bit of work it had a lot of help from the P2 obviously and just showing how strong try attack can be as an option which is you know sometimes the RNG just doesn't like like you and for my opponent it was definitely the case in that last game but fun games nonetheless we saw a bunch of the team today we've seen pretty much everything performed so it's been a really nice one hopefully if you try the team out you enjoy it obviously it isn't a super serious team in series nine but it might inspire some ideas and it's always worth trying to play around with Pokemon that you do like I love buzzwall I think it's a cool Pokemon and see if you can get it to work in the format and maybe just pick up some wins with it and then that might inspire some ideas once you've played around with it to take it even further forward and really come up with something quite innovative and that's a way to do it you know and why not when you can when you can have the opportunity to do in a series like series nine where there are so many possibilities and so many innovative ideas that you can go forward with the team so if anything hopefully it's just inspired you to kind of do something a bit out of the box because it's always fun to do that at least but if you do try the team let me know down the comment section as always I do love to hear and we'll wrap things up there so thank you so much for tuning in have a great rest of your day take care of yourselves more importantly than anything else and I'll see you all soon for another episode here on the channel so until then take care and bye bye


My name is Micah Soren and I help the HD not in conflict resolution. My PhD is in radio frequency safety of mobile phones My biggest party tree is telling people that they're mobile phones are really safe Science said But I do know a bit about conflict resolution in especially in distributed communities And the kind of communities where people sometimes see each other sometimes they only know each other via mailing lists So having done my PhD in RF safety I've spent a lot of my time around engineers and scientists and coders and people who consider themselves to have excellent standards of conflict resolution and Excellent ways of dealing with each other. Yes, I can see those snorts. I can hear you Actually, I used to as an engineer who had that opinion of myself. I have appalling skills at this I can tell you so I'm mostly going to tell you some war stories and the kinds of things I've learned from them and the kinds of things I'm learned from Looking at other people's experiences and frameworks and research and how to do this kind of thing Maybe at the end if we have time, there'll be some proud participation. This is your warning Okay The first thing I learned is that One of the biggest rules people seem to assume about communities is that everyone should be welcome, right? let's Let's let's take a pretty happy view of things in most communities people say you look at anyone who can contribute Especially at something called a meritocracy should be welcome It's not necessarily true Line number one you do need filters And if you've got filter failure, that's when you have problems Okay, here is one of my first one of my favorite war stories, so in Australia, there's a As in many other parts of the world's there's conventions where people get together and talk about science fiction and fantasy stories and books and fan fiction all kinds of things and in 2009 one of the long-standing members of the community contacted the organizers and said hey There's this person who's going to be there. I think can you tell me if they're there because they sexually assaulted me and I didn't happen at an event So these events happen once a year So most of the community knows each other through distributed ways through online through maybe running into each other straight is a big place I mean, there's only 12 people there, but it is a big place Spot the Australians giggling here So The Organizers went wow, that's that's that's intense. They spoke to the person and he said yeah, no that really happened I'm really upset about it. I had no idea what to do and I didn't realize that that was a problem at the time So, you know, it wasn't even a question of he said she said there was a clear confession and When what did this started getting out to the community and there were conversations about Okay, how do we resolve this and who can attend what and maybe we can create a situation where you can both attend some parts of the convention There was oh my god You can you can still feel the echoes of those conversations from 2009 on today's internet go But it made people think about What's acceptable and despite the conversations of well that couldn't have happened or He's a pretty good guy, so we should let him hear anyway The community decided to establish much tighter controls about Who could attend what and how to attend things and also made them Do a few other things as well One of the things that they did was listen just Walk in and listen to people and not ask them too many invasive questions about what happened But have a think about what actually, you know, can you tell me what happened? Can you tell me what you want? They modeled good behavior. Oh, sorry. Did you want to take a photo of that? There you are They might look good behavior, so they walked around and they a few of them got together in bandit and Around the situation went what are we going to do about this?   They wanted it to be In 2009 Unrelatedly entirely unrelated Lee Alex Bailey who's pretty famous for Being famous on the internet You know for being an awesome open-source developer and a community manager At the time give a keynote at Oscon talking about recruiting diversity and her point was that you've got to start with the diversity you want to see That applies for everything if you want a community that behaves Well, you want to start the community well, and if you're already done the wrong track Then what you want to do is lead it is create a situation where you're leading it Where you're one of the people that are making it a different kind of place This is a Photo of the at the time the dream with Debting do people know what dream with this Does anyone remember like journal? Does anyone even know what life journal is? Okay, it was a blogging platform back when those kinds of things were a little cooler than now and It was a publicly accessible place when you want to go and set up a blog a little bit like WordPress, but Not not at all really like WordPress, but in some ways a bit like it in that in that it offered the same kind of features But after a while they started treating some of their members pretty badly Refusing some content closing accounts So some of their developers left and created a competitive program Competitive service, which is basically the same thing but better called dream with and this is the diversity statement We welcome you we welcome people of any gender identity or expression race ethnicity size nationality sexual orientation ability level neurotype We welcome fans geeks nerds pixel staying techno peasant Riches we welcome internet beginners who aren't sure what any of those terms refer to you might wear a baby sling of a job A keeper a leather piercings a pet or anything. So this was their diversity statement. This was them standing up for the community that they wanted to see They model good behavior Their diversity statement is still one of the best I've ever seen Why do they want to do that? For a start you have a community who value it who want it There are some people in the community whose boundaries aren't as clearly enforceable as other people's sometimes they're women sometimes they're queer people sometimes they're Poor people sometimes they're people of a different race sometimes they're people who wear a lot of jewelry through their eyeballs and Society generally use those people as less worthy of having their filters enforced Your job to do it If you can it's a really nice thing to be able to stand up for other people who might not have the freedom to do it for themselves But don't a kind way It's not always what you think is going on I've been in a lot of situations where one person saying look This person's really upset me and they hurt me and they shouldn't be here In fact, I don't think they should belong to this community at all and it turns out after listening to them that Actually, both people can contest but both both ends are okay and what you've got is a culture clash Some people think that there's one thing going on or that the community is about something else and Other people think that there's something else going on. It's very important to be able to just listen to them and You can do that via email as well and it's hard and it's not fun Who's ever had to try and resolve the conflict via email? Yeah, yeah, you're those people with that thousand yards Okay One of the other things that the people in the speculative science fiction community was stack stack the odds. Okay, so they Sat among themselves and they went we want to change the community, right? Who's going to be on the board next year, right? What about the year after that and the year after that they did that for three years running they figured out who was going to Put forward the effort of being on the board and they did it in a systematic way so that none of them wore out all at once They all wore out eventually It's hard doing this kind of thing But they had a really serious program in place where who's going to be on the board and who's going to be on the conference? organizing committee who's going to be Contacting people who's going to be writing the anti-arrestment policy and they they actually changed it They got together and they sat in the background. There's always, you know, there's always the meta channel There's the channel where everyone's talking and then there's the channel for where everyone's talking about how you talk to each other They stack the odds in the meta channel It's not considered very nice to isolate the problem person, but it's actually been shown in a bunch of different studies Every time there's a study that talks about how do you change the culture at your workplace? one of the highest value things that can happen in a workplace is to remove the one or two really toxic people and Most studies will come across if you're looking into workplace improvements We'll either avoid this topic entirely or focus on it very strongly Removing the problem like one or two serious problem people has more increased value for an organization Then any collection of workshops any away days any kind of team building exercises Yeah, education is an oculation Vaccinate your community against How you don't want them to behave what is acceptable and what is not acceptable? The people of this particular convention they For several years in a row started running as a parallel track to everything else in the conference safe spaces workshops Which was all about how to say yes How to say no what is consent? What is okay? How do you ask for consent? How do you establish it? How do you establish safety? How do you make yourself a safe person to be around it? Why would you want to do that and It wasn't even with the aim That they never talked about this is to stop sexual harassment happening again Although of course it is but it was to give people the tools to deal with how To behave the next time they were in an uncomfortable situation Whether it was when someone's accused them of something that they weren't sure they'd done or how to recognize When they might be about to cross someone's boundary or have to just stand up for themselves And you know what it's a really different place now the entire Sci-fi convention world in Australia small and incestuous as it is like all other worlds in Australia is very different Okay, this is another story Pretty famous Open source female lead project in fact I think for a long time they were at 95% female contributors. I'm not going to name it They had all kinds of problems they had various different kinds of boards and again, this is a situation where the meta channel Wasn't This is actually a situation with the meta channel was the problem They had several meta channels and they hadn't spoken to each other well enough And there were a couple of toxic people around and nobody knew how to deal with them and nobody knew what to do about it so I Have a lot, you know, I've spoken to a lot of the people who are involved in it one-on-one or in your groups and a lot Of the same kind of thing which is we just didn't know how to get past the barriers and they had online channels and They would talk to each other and sometimes they needed to do things like just again model the behavior one of them would sit around and welcome any newbie and we'd sit around to the testers and say so I'm getting a bug report to a developer. It's kind of like telling them they have an ugly baby Be gentle with it ask questions, you know, don't walk in and say I can't work with this is rubbish Here's another situation. Maybe you could walk in and say I don't really know how to start developing or testing this Can you give me a hand understanding the code and that made a big difference? and The channels and the meta channels did get better and then got worse and then got better and then got worse, but overall They did pretty well I'm gonna come back to that one Okay, one of the things you need to be able to do in a community is Know who to talk to and how to address a problem. So you've encountered a situation Someone's accused you of bad behavior or you've encountered bad behavior. Maybe it was at a conference event Maybe it will post conference events. Maybe it was online. Maybe someone sent me what would I do? I don't want to have to like to walk up to everyone and tell them that I'm embarrassed that this guy's felt me up or That I think I've done something really bad I just want to find somebody to talk to quietly. So it's very important to be able to make those choices Visible to your community Let them know who to contact have an email address have a Twitter account have people in t-shirts something This is work reinforcing boundaries teaching people creating filters It's hard. It's labor. It's what's going to make your organization. It's going to make it Make or break it like in a lot of ways. It's what's going to make your organization better than Much more than whether you can sell widgets or better than the kind of code you can do This is what's going to make it. You know that there's that saying that how people don't need jobs or organizations They need bosses Or they leave their workmates. This is this is same kind of thing. What you want is somebody making the place safe So when you are thinking about how to set up a community or how to resolve the conflicts things about How you're going to moderate it and how you're going to compensate that either with money or with something else You can do is lower the barrier of entry for the more vulnerable people the people who don't want to speak up Sometimes the conflicts arise because people feel like they can't speak about them and they can't speak about them because they're part of a minority group or I don't know maybe they have a disability and they don't have to call anyone else up every time and say I'm in a wheelchair. Can you tell me where the stairs are so they don't show up or they snuck you on a mailing list about it Which is fair enough. I'd be snucked if you I mean, it's not a funner a nice thing to be but I can really understand why they'd be angry What you want to do is lower the barrier of entry for people who? Can't do it for themselves necessarily or for whom it's harder. Oh one of the coolest stories I've heard is There's a little corner of the internet called metafilter Methi for short and then they're they were reddit before reddit They're still online. They are really unattractive website actually really plain what they do is They keep like they have a moderator that they pay. They're very clear on their moderation rules They charge people a five dollar annual fee to participate in the community to post right I Mean it's a small sum of money But the pain of you know dealing with PayPal or credit cards or whatever to create the count and and and do all that means that they are less likely to get spanners that they're less likely to get the kind of people who are going to be Sock puppets of pains in the arse about it or you know Yeah, you're less likely to get better people who are going to be difficult if there is a small barrier to participation Remember that everyone who is in a more vulnerable position is making a cost to benefit calculation in their head before they post anything Anyone vulnerable has to sit there and think If I say my opinion on this forum Am I going to get backlash? People who don't have to think that Maybe they can maybe you can make that a little more fair for them One of the good things to make clear is that there's no opt into good behavior You like there's no opt out. You just are you up Yeah, there's no opt into good behavior. You can opt out by leaving and it's okay. Like it's really okay to leave the community The best way to do things is to create a code of conduct. Yes, you have people. Yes, you need to know how you behave The reality is you already have a code of conduct. Your community has unspoken rules of Ways in which it is okay and not okay to behave for for example. We are all wearing clothes I didn't think about it today, did you? We have all these assumed assumptions about life that life teaches us and sometimes the group teaches us by subtle punishment or subtle encouragement about what's okay, and what's not okay, so creating code of conduct is actually Just Formalizing the rules of what things are Here's an example of a code of conduct that your community might not want but a different This is one of the channels of anonymous Does everyone know who anonymous is? They're Hmm, they're a desperate online group of people Behave as among other things activists against whatever causes they feel like and initially they were all anonymous That was the point that nobody knew they were Some of them have come to life since the point is the Their code of conduct is not necessarily what you want, but this is the code of conduct that worked for them This is one of our channels. Nobody kicks nobody bans inside this channel You don't interact with another person's channel personal disputes are taboo. That's often a good one but you know sometimes Like the last one over here, so don't expect the IRC cops to handle your problems for you try and resolve it yourself That's not always true. Some communities prefer to have moderate or get involved earlier Be specific about what isn't isn't okay and be specific about what you can and can't do Does this look familiar? This is the Drupal conflict resolution guidelines They're really good and when I read them I went wow, there's a community that's dealt with conflict Because like you can always tell who hasn't hasn't dealt with problems by how specific they are in what to do when it happens Like like there's Condom pattern you can buy where one of the instructions is please do not send used product back to company Yeah, I don't think those kinds of rules developed by accident they fulfill it when someone's done it Consequences. Yeah. Okay. Once you've got a code of conduct once you've created a boundary The only way to enforce it is clear and fast clear and hard real quick You don't want there to be any questions That the code of conduct has been enforced you you need to be kind you need to be gentle you need to hear all sides But you need to do it your first your only chance as having an effective boundary is to enforce it the first time it's broken Yep, it's okay to ban people It's not the first resort. It's rarely the first resort and if it is maybe that's all the community for you Maybe it is the community for you. That's your choice But remember it is Your role to ensure that things are in fact resolved and one of the ways to resolve them is to revisit Is to visit consequences and one of the consequences are Being asked to leave the community or being banned from the community This is all my favorite stories. Okay, 2005 Qcon Qcon is a conference about security that happens in New Zealand once a year They call themselves the absolute best one. It's true. They're also the only one. They're very clear to say that in 2005 15 so December last year they had the keynote speaker Personal invited friend of the organizers stood on stage and made a transphobic joke as part of their speech and the Organizers kind of sad and shock.  I don't care where you're going next You're leaving now My favorite story just the clearest public declaration that we are going to make this place safe for you and You know, I'm sure those people the organizer and the speaker later had a lot of words and Later had a lot of conversations about their own internal conflict and what isn't is okay and who embarrassed who actually But they were a little about it and look this was their report about the conference. We had Cyber flames lasers significant facial damage hackers crackers jackers directors and as far as we know only one creeper They also removed all other references to this person from their conference removed their All the stuff from the Program so you can't find them anymore, but they did it They were kind by being kind to their community You know, there was no question of what happened If you can be public about what's going on Even if the conflict is private have the conversations in private but have a public conversation mention it some way It's really important to let people know that if there is a problem someone will step in someone will do something about it It will be dealt with and you're not the only one dealing with it You always get to choose You always get to you know in the situation he said she said in the situation of two people At least one of those people is hurting upset, right? At least one of those people has had probably potentially Something awful happened to them.  You know people normally wait until there's a problem before they talk to someone. You get to choose who side you're Oh, yeah, okay, so I'm gonna tell you one of the most awful stories from my life a long time ago. I was president of a committee of a Community that dealt with alternative sexualities. So again I mean I've done nothing to do with software, but there were a lot of people there who were part of a distributed community who Mostly see each other A couple of times a month. There'd be a lot of conversations online on email and Facebook on forums and We had a case of Somebody accusing their partner of domestic violence Happens and we as a group had to seriously think about what to do about it How do we get our evidence for that? Okay, so maybe the police are involved. Maybe they're not It's a group that deals with relationships so people have relationships within the group It's not like like for example, if we've been Organizing a drive-in alcohol recovery group there. There are rules that say things like Avoid dating anyone within this community It wasn't like that people date each other all the time and one of the decisions we came to is that Because we know this and because it was a relationship based situation If there are people around who are abusive in relationships and we know that Then by allowing them in the group who were de facto standing up for them and saying this person is an okay person to date And it was a lot of big conversations about you know, is it our job to save people from crap relationships? We'll know but abusive maybe you know What do we do about that and we didn't know what to do and there were months and they were terrible terrible situations and oh my god The worst thing I think I did in that situation was create a A group discussion where I knew not everyone was capable of dealing with what was going on but We decided to have a consensus based agreement about what to do with this person and therefore with the community guidelines as a whole and So that meant we had to have all of the community all of the organizers agree before we did something. I Can't even tell you how much that yeah, yeah, okay People who've tried this are shaking their heads all I can tell you is don't do that Like there are good ways to build consensus But in order to have consensus-based decision-making you first need to have years of training a community in how to come to Consensus-based decision and if you don't have which like student politics does that a lot But if you don't have that in place Then the moment there's a conflict you're dealing with how to resolve conflict and you barely get to what do we do about this particular So for a time we thought we were off topic or maybe we were off of the values Maybe we went on the values of the community. So we had to re-establish them Maybe we weren't talking about what was the right thing actually what we decided was something else And I'll tell you about that in a minute Another story from a little more recently I'm I've just been on the board of the Australian Open Knowledge Foundation which is an arm of the global open knowledge group and Which we've been around for a long time and we do things that are open and that's everything from open government to science to education to data to you name it and And we I've been living in Melbourne a long time in Melbourne. We've had a really sensational community Things are so good. We wrote our own code of conduct for all Australia. We Have weekly events. We have a thriving community. We constantly have new volunteers to come and do stuff You like that is a real sign of a thriving world and then Just recently We got into a massive fight on the mailing list among the organizers So it was you know, it ended up being one city versus another city and what we came to realize is That we weren't thank you. We went off topic or off values. We were something else We didn't know how to talk as moderators. What we didn't have was the right structure for us What I learned is that you can't make anyone do anything. This is all this happened when I was in India. I Was living in Hyderabad. I am for a year or two and all of this was happening in Australia And I was watching the mailing list and watching the Twitter feed and starting to cry because these are all people I care about what are they doing fighting with each other? And this is a community I actually built from scratch like all of us started with nothing and suddenly so, you know, there were Midnight phone calls and 6 a.m. Phone calls to try and catch people at the right time zones And I'm so sorry that happened to you and okay. Can you tell me what happened? What's going on? Can we have a phone conversation all together? All right? What I learned is that I couldn't make anyone apologize to anyone like I couldn't make anything happen I could just talk with people. I could give them information. I could create any situation I wanted but it was up to them. I Tried to create makes list, you know One of the things that did work was making less distance was even though people were distributed Getting them all together into the same room even into the same conference call made a big difference You know, they're human now. This isn't just some person whose name I see on a mailing list Find really annoying It's always personal. It's always somebody's upset. You've got to remember that someone's upset actually It's not about logic like yeah, there's logical reasons and there's time for logical conversations But it's not the first response you've got to deal with Yeah, we're off topic. We're of values actually what we didn't know was how to resolve moderator things and What's happening in Australia is that we are too distributed and we haven't come to an agreement about how to deal with moderator conflicts and We don't what we discovered is that we don't have Conversations among moderators enough so like the Melbourne group is really active the Sydney group is really active each of the different cities Is functioning very well, but intercity we don't have agreements about what our culture is Best advice I can give you is to have the most awkward conversation you can possibly think of Start early think about it. It's your job to have like it's as anyone who's part of the community It's your job to make things less awkward for other people Sometimes that means being really awkward for a few minutes at a time You've got to normalize it. You've got to make it normal. We've got to make it okay to have conflict The best way to do it is to sit down in someone and say, how do you want to talk about things when we have conflict What makes you feel more listened to? What what kind of words do you want me to not use what makes you angry? How can we resolve what we're doing? How can we talk amongst ourselves? What do you want out of a resolution? If you're not doing that what you're normalizing is unresolved conflict is people not resolving stuff is people Leaving is people not talking to each other is I'm not going to that event if you're invited that person Ah, yeah, cool. So there's this really good framework For thinking about among other things conflict resolution. Well, it's about values in the workplace Really, we're thinking about giving voice to values One of the things I talk about is think about what helps you speak up one of the Things that makes things work really well is knowing ahead of time. What's going to make it easy to talk on behalf of someone else on behalf of yourself when values are breached, what are your values?  Am I a brave person? Okay, in that case I can talk because I'm feeling brave Am I timid am I not really shy? Okay, but do you like complying with values? Do you like complying with the rules in that case? Maybe it helps you speak up When there are clear rules and you know that you're following them Maybe it's because you know whatever stories you tell yourself, you know The story I tell myself in that picture is that I meet and I really like plants That was a photo I took of my lap in an airport after I'd taken some Black pepper cunies from somewhere one of the other stories I tell myself is that I get really angry Actually, not that true But I found for a long time that that really helped me like thinking about about in terms of anger at injustices Okay, what's the time now? 130 excellent. We've got time. Okay, and it's a small group. So we're definitely going to be able to do it So anyone ever heard this phrase when is the best time to plant a tree? The best time is 20 years ago, you know, you want to start your community with a code of conduct You want to start a community with good ways of resolving conflict? Second best time is right now. So what we're going to do. Okay, we're going to do the Now it is time for the audience participation part of things. I would like you to find a partner It's the person you're sitting next to is really good If you're not sitting next to anyone and you don't want to that's your choice If you do want to get involved find yourself a partner and here's what we're going to do You're going to trip over there and try not to die. That's what you're gonna do What you're gonna do is think about the conversation you want to have the least The most awkward conversation you can think of.  No, I don't want to do anything else. Think about it. Think about that one and practice having it Right. The best thing you can do is get yourself ready for the situations before they occur Right. The best thing that's going to help you be awkward and know how to deal with a problem The reason the code of conducts with conflict resolution is because people have anticipated what to do when a problem arises. So You're probably gonna have to deal with whatever it is that you're avoiding Find somebody, each of you, think about the conversation you don't want to have And try to have a role-play with the person next to you about that conversation Just try and have it with someone right now. Prepare yourself You go I'm available for conversations I don't know I I I I I I I Now's your chance to swap I I I I This feels like conversations starting to die a bit What did you get out of that? Did anyone actually have an awkward conversation like attempt? Yeah, a couple. Yeah, awesome. Anyone else actually try and have like a bit of a trial. Yeah, you what did you get out of it? I Yeah, anyone else You're clearly all very expert at the awkward. Yeah, how'd you go? Thank you Yep Yeah, yeah cool. How did you go? I was there for the same thing, whatever you say. The way we tell the dentist person, we should make sure that we don't use the strong words. They talk a lot about going to the doctor, of course. Cool, thanks. What about you four at the front? How did you go? I actually lost competition. You're still alive? Did it? It was very helpful because you actually listened to what I said and even took notes.  People a lot of times ask me, I say I don't want to quote to him, and I go, why would you possibly? Cool, thank you for that. Anyone else? People bad and who just talks bad about the condom. That's what we always talk about. Is that a thing you talk about? It is, we're both still having community work, well I guess I don't know what you're talking about, the community working here for people. I've seen you make a lot of good documents. Oh, that's good. So one of the things I had a question about, I don't know if this is the right time, but you mentioned the science fiction, how this incident happened in the kind of catalyst moment where the community had decided what sort of direction they wanted to go. And you mentioned that it's a much better community now. And I was curious how much you attribute that to, like obviously things like from the safe states, which I was just excellent with, that's education and that's this kind of opt-in education to it, a lot of people who want to be empowered to be empowered. But I'm curious, back to the cynical, how much of that was also attributed to attrition? Like people, I mean, deliver it attrition to your life, you're no longer welcome here, but also attrition in that, if you're doing safe space workshops, this is no longer my community. And then sort of people self-selecting to leave, and I believe only the finance people can leave. Yep, I'm not sure how much everyone heard, but the question was in the sci-fi community, I was talking about seeing the community, it's better how much is that attributable to the efforts of these people of taking specifically black and safe space workshops and how much is it due to attrition. And I think you're dead of the money. The moment you create rules that say, this kind of thing is not okay here, the kind of people who behave like that are less likely to be there or to stay there or to behave like that, because it's not encouraged. And there's a police that we sort of hate somewhere that says that's not okay and that's not acceptable here, especially if it's publicly visible that there will be consequences. And the self-selecting is actually the simplest way that communities improve. We call this community, when the communities declare what their values are and what reason isn't okay, the people who don't behave like that either leave or are made to leave by directoring direct behavior by punishment or by actual banning. Yes. And here's an open conversation. Yes. We also risk sweeping the pendulum too far. And I had an interesting conversation with someone who has consciously chosen in the US to mentor poor, rural, redneck white guys because there is nothing out there for them and we are making a whole bunch of spaces not safe for them. That's great. That's one of the most interesting things that are happening now. There's so much... You're not welcome to read those. Good angle. So the point was, it's possible to swing too fast. So I'm going to raise the issue of somebody actually starting an education program for poor, remote, rural... Redneck. White guys. White guys. Yeah. Yeah. They need education. In fact, that's one of the things that the sex worker community talks most about. Sex worker and safe sex and sex positive community groups talk about the most, that there's no healthy good way for, you know, the most privileged in society model or real-class middle-aged white guys to get involved in alternative sexuality stuff without coming across as creepy and everyone suddenly going, what are you doing here? No, no, no. We need to make the safe space for the queer and the women. Go away. Yeah. And that's a problem. Yeah. And it's actually a problem with marginalizing health issues as well. Not that I think was swung too far. Most guys are still predominantly tested on healthy white people. But there's actually all the drugs that give them less precedent for research because it's an issue that affects me. Yes. Yes, it's an issue. And yes, that is a really awkward conversation to have. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any questions? I don't know. So something that was said that I still struggle with is the point made about being transparent when there is a difficult conversation and there's some outcome from it and then being transparent about the fact that the conversation happened. And I'm trying to, this is so advantageous all the time, but do it in public and make sure everyone knows. And while I definitely see the value of that for other people who might have the same experience, I don't know that it's either don't know that it's safe to come forward or don't know that these expectations exist, what I'm going to struggle with is how to do that without making something that is already awful for at least people already much worse. So the situation where you've been or asked for the situation where you're uncomfortable and it was, you know that it was like a grand scheme of harassment, it wasn't potentially violent to you, but at the same time it was awful for you. You don't want to either make the person who was on the other side of that situation you don't want to make that a target of the ability that they don't deserve. You also don't want to have to live anymore. Like how do you balance that? How do you balance that? How can you be transparent about that while still responding to privacy? Yeah balancing transparency privacy, hard or quite difficult place by place is the short version. Sometimes it's enough for most people won't have known what's happened. Okay, almost nobody accept people who were there during an incident know what happened. Others it was something that happened publicly on any of those. In which case, if they're public, no question, their response and the consequences are public. Like you can have a lot of conversations in the background, but if something's happened publicly, if everyone knows about it, no question. The other end of the spectrum, something's happened privately. It's still important for the community and incidentals dealt with. Consequences have been revisited or smited upon with various individuals. We haven't got enough smiting. There is just never enough smiting. It's true. But also that this is a thing that happens and that it's normal. So you can visually hide the people's names. That doesn't always hide them. Yeah. I'd say, you know, a high-profile contributor. Yeah, a high-profile contributor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another attaining at the conference. So anyone who's there is exactly the right but everybody else is like, that sounds reasonable but you know, or there's suddenly a giant fight being among the community. Who's that? I know and once they're okay and I wouldn't have done that. This one time, another thing happened to me. This thing happened to a friend of a friend of mine. Look, you can't get it right. People will go. People will gossip.  You're self-included.  It's okay. You're not going to make it great by not talking about it. The question is, which is going to be worse, having said something publicly or having said nothing publicly? It's not always a question of which is better. Sometimes it's a question of which is going to be worse, doing it or not doing it. And who is a dream who was born? Exactly. We're talking about the rights of different people. One person's right to not have to think about what's going to happen versus the community's right to know that something did happen or that people could say something. And the problem is, of course, that there are consequences being like in the case of an assault the fact is, the victim of the assault is going to be experienced and the consequences are going to be regardless of what happens. And you could make it easier for them maybe by not mentioning the thing publicly. But if your code of conduct specifically states when there are incidents when you let a community know then they know what they're signing up for. And yeah, sometimes it sucks and sometimes it really hurts well now. But sometimes other people know what it's like. I'm very happy to have my conversation but I think it's time to move on. You haven't liked the code of conduct versus the feather? I don't know. Is anyone holding one of those? Would anyone like to hold one of those? Not this time. But very happy. Sure. Yes. There I am. Totally good day.


This is the VOA Special English Education Report. What is the best way to learn a new language? A small study of foreign language learning in adults compared two methods. One is known as the explicit or classroom method. This is the kind of traditional classroom teaching where students are taught a lot of information about grammar rules. The other method is known as the implicit or immersion method. The idea here is to learn much the way children do when they learn a native language. That is, by being with native speakers and absorbing the language that surrounds them. Generally, without a lot of explanation. Teachers may combine these two methods into what Professor Michael Ullmann calls immersion-style classroom teaching. But is that necessarily a better way to learn a language? Mr. Ullmann was the senior investigator for the new study. He is a professor of neuroscience at Georgetown University Medical Center in Washington. He says he was surprised to find that combining the two methods might not help the brain in processing the new language. If he had to learn a language, what would he do? One possibility would be to start with classroom and then go to immersion. But he says there is a possibility that classroom could hurt later immersion. That is one possibility in interpreting the data. The Public Library of Science published the study earlier this year. The 21 adults in the experiment learned Brocanto II, a 13-word language created for the study. The words and grammar rules relate to a computer game similar to chess that the learners played. For example, Blom Nemo Luneep LePros means the square blom piece switches with the neat piece. The researchers tested the people three to six months after they had learned the language to see how well they could remember it. The study found that those who had learned it with the immersion method had brain waves similar to those of native speakers of a language when speaking that language. Professor Ullmann says those who trained with the classroom method also became more native-like in their brain processing. But only the immersion group showed full native-like processing of the grammar. Still, he says teachers should not make any curriculum changes based on his findings. He says further research is needed, and it may be, for example, that a combination of classroom and immersion might be best. But we don't know that. For VOA Special English, I'm Mario Ritter.