Andrew, welcome to simulation. Thank you so much. I have to admit I was a little bit nervous when you asked me to do it, which of course means for me that I must. So I'm very happy to be here. I love that vibe right off the bat. It's like, if I'm feeling a little bit of discomfort. Let's investigate. Must go there. Must investigate discomfort. Yeah, it's true. It's really true. But you're so relaxed and easy. And you know what I watch every episode that you recorded with somebody from NLS so far. And yeah, I mean it was just, it's just so off the cuff and easy going and I don't know. I just really loved the whole vibe. Just maybe realize, oh yeah, just yourself. Do you think. And there's room for all of it. That's what you do. You make a lot of room for a lot of things to happen. And you don't put a lid on very much. And I love that. So did you go to put it. Yeah, yeah, I'm really grateful. I'm really grateful that you've put so much love into what we've put love into which is producing the content. You guys can find the no limit society conversations playlist on the channel, and we'll also be adding Andrea's to it as well which is awesome. You caught it. It's not, it's not always so fast that people can catch what happens in other people's essence. But you caught it really fast, which is just total flow and total love and total space for the exact firework, the exact aroma that emerges from the dialectic to just shine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's one of my talents. That's one of my unique talents and natural things that I come with like what do they call it your puzzle piece you know that that's part of it. I'm able to recognize and translate just like that. Oh that's so good recognize and translate I love that. Yeah, for others. I do it for others exactly exactly. It helps me also to fulfill the other part of it which is like keeping things on track. Yes, things relevant, not allowing stuff to go off the rails and I think things very relevant for people all the time.  Yeah. Now I also know deeper why Mesh and Sherouk, we're also mentioning like like co-creating with Andrea's really important like look at this, recognize and translate. And that's another feature that I'm really familiar with so it's beautiful that you're beginning to unpack this because, in a sense, once you sort of get into these, as Bentino talks about this like these bubble realities that click. And what's happening is when you undergo this process of clicking in for this conversation this interaction that's happening. The more that you can register recognize the other person and translate to them, both what their unique essence is they feel like you care about them they feel like you're genuinely interested in asking them questions and listening to them speak about what unique they are, what part of their spiritual awakening process they're in. And within like a couple of minutes, you can just build this really strong rapport with somebody, because you know how to do it after going through hundreds of thousands of these examples. And it is happening. I do care. I think that's why I can access it too is because I do care.  You know, so that's part of. I think that's part of what makes it precise. That's part of what gives it precision. Yes, and focus, because it's fueled by. That's that that love. Love, that's what it's fueled by. And you know it used to be quite a detriment in my life, because that was always my thing is I could recognize everything I recognize everything. You know, not just the stuff people want me to recognize. And so it used to be a detriment, and I have long since learned how to use it for not only my benefit but the benefit of the other at the same time. And that's just, I suppose practice maturity, discipline, purification. Yes. A really good, simple example for people is when you kind of click into these bubble realities. Can you keep at the top of your awareness at top of your attention can you keep, whether you're coming from a place of wanting to extract something from the other person to one of your needs or lack beliefs or wanting to be seen or trying to extract peace and happiness from them in some way, or when you lock in.  It was, we were in conversation together when you mentioned, you said, locked in. Right. And so you get this one intelligence to one infinite creator you get that locked in. And once you get that really situated. It's much easier when you get into these conversations to be coming from a place of not needing anything, and just serving hold the holding space mechanism as well as serving exactly the needs of what the other person is going through to unblock to access freedom that they already are. Yeah. And, and, and you can. I mean the whole idea is to get it locked in almost unconsciously. Right. So that every time I open my mouth, because I open my mouth a lot. Every time I'm going to open my mouth, then I need to not have to think twice about where I'm coming from. So that's been a heavy and consistent practice and unpacking and inquiry for me over and over again, especially after interaction for a long, long time in my life to be able to be in this place where I don't really think twice about it. It's, it's quite rare that, you know, I'm not giving to the situation. The other thing too I would find myself in the past doing is, you know how you said fulfilling a need for me, which I mean I guess it is a similar thing, but fulfilling a need for someone else to like that. And you would think well no no I'm fulfilling a need for them, you know. And so it ends up being the same thing because of course there's only one of us. Anyway, so yes. And then once you realize that. Okay. It's done. It's an all or nothing thing. I mean this whole journey is all or nothing. There can't be parts over here over here all. You know, there's only one and but over here I know better than God. Yeah compartmentalizing so we chop ourselves up into these little tiny pieces and we decide like, well this, I need to make sure I take care of this like God can't take care I can't leave that to God.  Here I have to you know and this, but over here okay I can. And what we start to realize is that that's like that's not under that's divided. You know, and really, we want to come from that undivided wholeness which means everything is the same thing. And also, everything has to be imbued like I love what Richard said in the Costa Rica retreat about the infinite concern and the finite concerns, and how we need to bring the infinite concern down to imbue the finite concerns, so that we can remember that now they're not finite anymore because they're fueled by the truth and the love and the light and the awareness. And that turns them into sacred so everything sacred or nothing sacred. Gosh, that's so good. There's no dividing of this area will be the separate self trying to extract peace and happiness out of reality, but this area over here okay I'll let this area maybe like with kids. And sometimes a little bit more like, oh I had this profound as a parent, I birthed a child into the world, and now because of that I've opened up my heart chakra a little bit I'm less selfish. So now I'm willing to like give more to serve this child. And so now you've brought some sort of infinite concern to only one member of your family, you know type thing. Like, but anybody outside of the family, no no no no they're still solar plexus the ego is still strong there, but the heart only opened up for your offspring. It's so fascinating. How like that kind of it works for relationship to and you know having that one significant other, then that becomes the most important relationship in your life and everything else and every other relationship is less important you know.  In that truth. There's no difference between any relationship you have with anyone anywhere ever. They're all the same. They're all the same. They may have slightly different forms, I suppose, taste, maybe even taste is cool. And even, even then that gets transcended but it's cool to stay at the taste stage it's, it's cute. To switch between the lenses of perception for that, as you would like relate to somebody different than I relate to this person or that like I mean that's just not. I'm not an integrity. I'm not in it where's my integrity. You know how I show up depends on who I decide I'm going to be not who anybody else is the reason. And that's when we say the locked in then you're always perpetually showing up from the place of intelligence infinity at play with itself, and therefore serving the creation awakening truly shepherding it in a non attached way. I need to do this for me to feel better because I'm the agent that is serving the creation awakening to be seen as that there's all these little tricky nuances, you mentioned this and I thought this, I thought this was really interesting. It's that you don't need to think twice about when you where you're coming from. I feel like this is a very advanced level of spiritual awakening and I feel like it could be useful for us to unpack this on the show.  And then you over time you, you know you pick more and more towards this until it locks in. And as it locks in, then these conditioning still occasionally kind of bubble up but you're in a much more place.   It's devastating. It's devastating. It's so devastating. devastating. Okay. And I mean, and it's and it's okay. I feel like it's okay if it's devastating. Allow it to annihilate you. Because, as Gangaji would say, allow your feelings to annihilate you and you will find that which cannot be annihilated. Beautiful. So, then you have to recover, like, then it takes some time to recover from that for many. There's a grief that comes along with that, you know, forgiveness. You know, I really think that that's one of the first stages of the know yourself accept yourself become the creator. I think that's one of the first stages of knowing yourself is when you realize, oh my God. I'm a fraud. And I've been a fraud my whole life. Yeah, so then then we go from there. And if people stick to it, if people can recover can indeed recover from that. Well, then there's only one directionality to go now and it's more awareness in order to like vigilantly practice. And then every interaction is on the chopping block. It's like, why did I say that? How come this, why this, why that until you get really used to seeing your lack in action, your fraudulence in action. And then it becomes identifiable very quickly. You know, and then you even get to a point or I did anyway, where I noticed it mid interaction. And even admit it or declare it mid interaction with whomever I'm speaking with, and then turn it around at the same time. And that's a trip. Like transparently in front of people. Shit, look what I just did. And you sort of share with them. This is what's happening for me right now. And I need to just take a moment to like, tell the truth about this. And then I want to flip the script and come from a better place. And that's so high level I love that.  It's so just courageous. And brave. I love that. Yeah, that's a very high level of awakening again is just when you have total freedom with speaking the truth as it's going to hurt you to admit. It hurts you it's like a confession. It is. It's like a confession and every relationship becomes a confessional. Yeah, yeah, you know, wow, that's so profound. It helps. It helps me along in such a faster way than if I would have kept that process locked inside of me, you know, and beating my head against the wall plus I've since learned as well from many people that I did that process with for myself, who graciously helped base for me in those moments. How much they learned from that for themselves. And I feel like in that moment, I could automatically turn into service to others, just by sharing my process. Yeah, that's so cool.  I think this whole idea of transparency when we're in a group like right or wrong doesn't matter. Are you being real, even if it sucks, just be real. Yeah, just be real. Yeah, it doesn't matter. That's so perfect. Yeah, exactly. Perfect. I love how simple the just be real is, it's just so directly concise and punctual, and it kind of gives either if you're asking yourself just be real about it or if you're asking somebody else in the scenario just be real about it. This is the exact short concise burst permission slip to enable the. Okay, was that the truth, or was that an untruth, and then was that coming from the contracted person identity or is it coming from God, and you get to literally have the moment the it's such a quick permission slip to just do that check moment until you get it where you don't need to have to just be real. Yeah. Well and I, and, you know, within, I have a partner of 10 years, and, you know, we do our best to have as conscious of a relationship as we can, and, and just be real, you know how that translates sometimes for us is. I'm scared. And so I'm not going to do that thing or I'm not going to go in that place or I'm unable to go like so it's just as simple as being real enough to own the fact that you're scared shitless and you're not ready to go there, whatever there wherever there is. You know, instead of posturing and pushing and forcing and becoming that opposite thing.  Instead, it's like, just be real. I'm scared. Not so easy. But even from partner to partner, like in a relationship to be able to say that, then it's easy for me to say, Okay, cool. You got this. Like I trust that you're going to figure it out because you know that you're scared. So you know what to do. And cool. I can, I can go do me. Yeah. So it's a big thing. And, and what about a group setting. Same thing like how many people in a group setting, you know, all of a sudden, the topic turns into something and it rubs up against you. And instead of just saying, Whoa, that's freaking me out like that's touching everything inside of me that's making me angry or that's making me scared. No, what do we do. I'm scared. It's like, well, I think this or I think that you know we try to legitimize the fear by pushing it into some sort of like makeshift idea, instead of just admitting the truth. You know, sometimes you can go so much farther when you do when you don't have to go through all that. So that's oftentimes where I come in to keep things on track is in moments like that, where I'm just like, Okay, clearly, you know, you're scared. So where do we have to go with this. Do you need help right now. Can you talk to somebody in a minute. Can we continue with what we're doing here, or, you know, maybe it's not easy to hear, but Yeah, this is some ultimate space holding stuff. This is really ultimate space holding. I love it. We should, we should start a show ultimate space holders. Which is, I guess, in a sense what what NLS is kind of in a little bit ultimate purification. Yeah. Yeah, which is, it's beautiful. It is and it's like how do you how do you actually create anything or get anything done. I mean quote unquote, or stay on topic. When you can't be honest. Right, because then you have to veer off into all these directions and all those directions have nothing to do with anything except whoever's speaking their lack. That's it, or otherwise, we'd be on point with what we're trying and it's not bad. It's not a bad thing at all. It's inevitable. I mean that's part that's what it's really about. That's what everything's really about. You know, it's not about our job or our relationship or that's not the thing. That's just the thing to get us to pay attention to the thing. But it in and of itself is not the thing. We're not doing it for the relationship or for the job or for the money. Those are just the catalyst that help us to pay attention to the actual thing, but everything that everything from the moment you open your eyes, you are bombarded with catalyst. Yes, yes. So, if that's the case, then it's just like way better to just surrender every time, because then you have a chance. If you don't, you got no chance. You're just going to be running and bumping and running forever. Yeah, I love the visualization of seeing catalysts everywhere in a massive webbed play that the creation is, and that begins seeing like the complexity of like in Buddhism is called this dependent origination. There's all of these insane causal webs of thousands of things that happen for you to just get your blueberries.  Is it coming because you already know it's all love. Is it coming from the place of potentially exploring holding space for unblocking for for others to enable more freedom of the life to wake up to itself. And that's a core, I would say distinction is both seeing the catalysts everywhere, because then you gain that hyper subtle perception to see that, and then it feedbacks on itself. And then the other one is that we kind of been talking about this but it's just boils down to in our, the title of the episode that we've been using is getting it. What, what is that is that as simple as we've been talking about is getting you being intelligent infinity, everything being intelligent infinity, and not when you don't get it. It's when you come from this place of lack from separate contracted identity. Yeah, exactly, exactly.  Yes, a realization in the moment small.  Or a big huge one, but either way it doesn't matter because when I work with people, and they have this just this tiny shift that enables them to get something about who they are even a glimpse. It freaks and blows up their life. It changes them in so many ways. You know, because here's the thing when you don't get it. You don't know that you're not getting it. That's the heart that's what's so difficult you want to know I'm going to tell you the story about this calling. When I was five years old. And I was having a, it was my birthday. And I blew out the candles on my cake. It was just my family. My mother, my father, me, and my two sisters. My brother wasn't even born yet. And I finished blowing out my candles and my father said, What do you want to be when you grow up. Yeah, and I said, Oh, I was so excited, because I knew exactly what to say. And I said, Oh, Daddy, I don't want to be anything. I just want to help turn the world right side up. That's what I said to him. And he backhanded me across the face. Hard and said, Don't ever say that again. And in that moment. Do you know what occurred to me at five years old with two things. Oh my God, he doesn't get it. In that moment I was like, I get it. He doesn't get it. The second thing that occurred to me in that moment was this isn't going to be as easy as I thought it would be. And that. So, so I've known that since then. And I was forcefully not allowed to pursue it. You see, for most of my upbringing. Especially like when we were talking earlier about culture and growing up in an Italian family and, you know, so that always factored in big for me because I had to obey. Which means I could never ever make my own decisions or do what it was that I felt was important to do. So it took, it took a long time. And now I obviously look back. And I realized, of course, that was all needed. I chose that pressure to take all of that and transform it. Yes, even just to show that it can be that it has really no. It never went away. Who I was never went away. Like, you know how Ben says, once you realize it, you can't unrealize it. So I knew it from five, it never went away. I was just fighting my time, fighting my time. I mean, of course, by the time I left my family, I was riddled with baggage. Lots of it. But simultaneously, that realization was there as well. So that's what fueled me. I was like, I got a lot of work to do now. I got to begin the work of disabusing myself of all of these defense mechanisms that at one time had purpose. And now no longer serve me at all. If I want to do what I said I'm going to do. So, what a profound story. Yeah, that's the getting it that I'm talking about. Wow. And I encounter people all the time who have that same mentality as my father. And I, and I get it. I get it. You know, it doesn't bother me anymore. It used to bother me a lot. It doesn't bother me anymore. Now I realize that all they want to do is get it. How can I serve that? Yeah, so how can I serve that? And of course I know exactly how I grew up with the king of that my father. Wow. Yeah.  That was that was a huge story from such a young age. You know, you don't have such, yeah, pivotal, highly remembered stories at young ages like that. And it was really interesting also how you said that you don't want to be anything but that you want to flip the world right side up. That was always in my head. That was always a narrative in my head for sure that as a child, I always perceived the world was upside down, but that you could turn it right side up. You could like upside down and backwards kind of. Yeah, that's been a common one of the sort of spiritual wisdom as well. Turn everything like outside in another way. Yeah, but I really like that in a sense it's like there's an attractor and it's Maya it's the illusion and it's, it's all the way out here at the farthest pole and then there's this other poll which is the absolute and it's like, yes, callback and you have these two poles at play and like this is the whole journey and the whole experience of intelligent infinity playing with itself happens.  And yeah, but it's but it's funny to sort of like architect out a map that seemingly makes sense.    Then like as soon as you broke out of that, like it all unwound and you rocked it up like so many of these, like and now you're doing everything you're doing today at this much more sort of larger macro level view of what is possible. That's what it felt like. I mean, yeah, I mean the next greatest faith for me happened, maybe 10 years after I had, you know, I stayed where my, my father lived where my family live for quite some time well into my 30s and the end of my 30s. And at one point, I, I finally decided to leave I said this is it I'm leaving I had a child. I was a single mother. And I took that child and said we're going to move these we're going to go move to where my sister is.  So that's where that comes from. He said to me, when I told him, he said to me something that he would say to me that he's been saying to me my whole life. Every time I wanted to do something that he didn't agree with. He would say, if you do that, you are no longer my daughter, you're no longer a part of this family will no longer be welcome in this house, and I will never speak to you again. That's me ongoing Lee, at least once a week. And I'm not joking. So at that time, when I told him that I called his bluff I said well, if that's what's going to happen then that's what's going to happen. See you later and I left. And he didn't talk to me for seven years. And I, and I wasn't considered part of that family for seven years. I don't know what's crazy is in the funniest, most unconscious way that he didn't realize. He sent me free. He set me free in such a wonderful amazing way. And I was able to full speed ahead, go ahead and do my thing without ever again, having to look over my shoulder. And I'm grateful to him for this day to this day I'm grateful to him for that, even though he doesn't know about that. So, from that point, it was about 10 years later that I had another really profound understanding and realization. I was able to do all of my conditioning and especially my cultural baggage and all of that. And it was that. None of that ever happened. None of it ever happened to me. None of it. I am completely unscathed by all of it. That realization enabled me to clean up all the last little snail trails of baggage that I was hanging on to. That's what did it that was the momentum with that realization that like, this is none of this history you can you are totally unaffected by all of it it never happened and then it was just like, gone, you know, all of it was gone. I don't identify the way that I move in the world against my family of origin anymore. It's done. It's finished. It did its job. Doesn't mean I don't slip at all. Doesn't mean that. Of course I do. But that's mine. Not my family. That's mine. I'll be the judge of that. I'll be the fixer or changer or transformer of that. Nothing and no one can get in the way of what I decide to do with that. And it's free, very free. And pops. He really created that pressure cooker. Those are, those are really big ultimatum points, like, oh, yeah, those are huge ones and then, like, just that, like the courage that's needed to get past those to find these massive gifts and those pressures on the other side. And I really love how you go through you explain going through the process of deconditioning the separate self identity, and then realizing that it never happened to you. And that's like the second sort of profound realization that then enables the, the energy of the entity to sort of relax and surrender at an even more unprecedented level. And to sort of lock in as we've been saying the getting it of the one intelligence like this whole universal odyssey that we designed that was so beautiful that I went on as intelligent infinity also never happened. Yeah. And that's when you get this nothingness, this infinitude, and this beautiful Andrea that you get all at the same time.   And one could easily be like I'm just empty full. But instead, it's like, it's like the beauty is beauty of being like, I can put on the Andrea lens and tell you this beautiful story that will also help share for other people in their journeys, what could be very useful and valid, as well, and helpful. See just see a lot of young people in that same place, especially now like I know I know like it wouldn't have, it wasn't going to go any other way for me because the strength of conviction, I was so much in my strength of conviction at five. There was just no other thing that was it, and nothing could change my mind. It wasn't even like it was my mind. I didn't feel that way. So that was never going to go away. And I feel like maybe that wasn't so, and maybe that wasn't as common at that time, when I was young, you know, for many children to feel that way at five or have that conviction at five years old, but more and more that's the case. I see it because we all are born at a different jumping off place generation after generation after generation. So I can see so many kids now that age or even just a little tiny bit older. And they too know they too have that conviction, but they're not allowed to. And it's like, it always struck me even at five years old is a weird thing like if I'm not allowed to have this conviction. And how do I have it. Yeah, it was such a weird thing when I was young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you're telling me I'm not allowed that doesn't. It's not having any effect. Yeah, it's not effectively changing anything about the conviction. Yeah, it's so interesting how the week we were talking about earlier we were talking about like catalysts, like just swimming in this ocean of catalysts, but it can also be viewed simultaneously as this programming between entities of intelligent infinity. And they're just so interesting you got this like older software running. It's like, it's like, it's totally unblocked from, you know, solar plexus the heart let's say, and that you have like this kid that's like, in many ways we can say that kids have super unblocked chakras. And kids are just like, they're swimming in infinite possibility. And like a kid is wanting to. We've actually had. We had Maya were Midas on the show, and Maya is nine years old. Yeah, and she spent a good chunk of the show explaining to us how annoying it was when she was trying to color a animal, a way that it's not normally colored in the world.  And so this is the infinite possibility trying to express itself, and then this sort of like older unblocked. Yeah, older blocked entity that's running software that does not enable the other less blocked entity to pursuits infinite possibility. Yeah, that's right yeah. It's pretty common, pretty common. It's cute that it's cute when it's really brought to the child level as well because it's also really relatable because adults have also went through similar processes. It doesn't even sometimes it doesn't matter if it was at five or if it was that people feel like it happened when they were a teenager or when it happened when they're an adult in the workplace, just like, like, I'm, I'm swimming in this beautiful infinite possibility. And like it's kind of funny because as a kid, when you're kind of told that your infinite possibility is dumb, and it doesn't work. When you're when you're an adult, because we've sort of went through this process as well. You're, we're submitting really great ideas for the projects that we're working on and all this type of stuff. And we learn how to also like not be attached to it, which is kind of interesting. Like we'll give it up so easily. Yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no for sure. It's crazy. Oh my gosh, it's so crazy. But all part and parcel. Gosh, that's so cool. Your, your journey actually rings so true to your current entity state of being totally so true to it, like the story matches so well to what you represent energetically now. Like, and you describe it so perfectly as this like pressure cooker that then caused this super explosive freedom of firework. Oh, big time. And I've never felt like I've always felt that way now, like since that happened. It's like, I'm endlessly free and endlessly transformative and liberated and like there's no excuse. There's no blockage. There's no, like, just go. That's it. Like I don't have the moment I don't have time I don't have the inclination to complain or to be bothered or to. Yeah, I mean, and any emotion is very short lived because I do think it's important to feel your emotions. That's it. And so when you start using them for other things, then you start becoming a victim and living from that place. But if you just feel them they're most likely changed within I don't know, 90 seconds, if that. And then keep going, keep going. Not a robot by any means, but at the same time. I'm not going to be following shiny objects around either. No way. I am my shiny object. Fuck, I love that one. It's a good one. Yeah, my shiny object. I am. That's who I follow that infinity inside. Yeah. We all know the difference.   And everyone knows, but not everybody wants to do the work or make the decisions that you need to in order to have that constantly consistently. It's available to everybody all the time and everybody. I think everybody innately knows what that feels like. I don't think it's learned at all. I think it's inherent in a more innate than like the conditional totally totally it has to be. It has to be. Yeah, the whole odyssey is perfectly designed to have that feedback mechanism that you're talking about where people know the difference. Now, if we're running the scripts that make us completely automatic, it's really difficult to get the entry into becoming aware of what is being discussed now. But you know, you know, because, like you said, as a kid, especially there was more of what was true in terms of especially that like freedom and just joy and peace and play and all that type of stuff. And then all of a sudden there's this cage in this box and all this like, and then it's like what is this. And then you know there's a difference between those and you know that they're, you know, the process of melting this is, you know, Ramana Maharshi it's either zero steps to freedom or endless steps to freedom.  It's true, it's inevitable, but as close as possible as you can get use that.  Yeah, it's in us to do. Yes, for sure. Yes. It's why we're here so and we all know the difference and it's all going in that direction and only the time it takes for you to get on board. Yes. That's it. Perfect.  So you may as well decide to be reality awakening to itself earlier rather than pursuing the shiny objects outside of yourself. Yeah, you might as well participate. Excellent. You know, excellent. So, may I be sensing that you feel like you do need to go to another meeting, or do you have. Oh God, no, no, no, no, I just had to shift. Yeah, I don't have a tripod or anything. And I kind of hold my phone because I don't have a computer. So, yeah. But I don't have anything else scheduled. This is it baby. Okay, cool, cool. We'll probably ride for, yeah. No worries. Yeah, cool. Okay. Take our time. I'm not in a rush. Cool, because we've been unpacking some beautiful things. And you could get a little. Either yeah, pop socket or a little like gorilla. Just to put the phone up against something or whatnot just to make it easy. I know actually I have one, but I didn't bring it with me. Okay, yeah. I do have a tripod like it could have been set up right here by the bed and I couldn't. Yeah, yeah, cool, cool. I'll learn, I'll learn. Even a computer. I'm going to have to break down and buy one. I think like I've written almost my entire book on my phone. Imagine. Yeah, that's just it feels more convenient for me in a lot of ways. I don't know how else to. Yeah, people don't think I'm crazy. What? What are you, and I don't type either. Yeah, voice to text it. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that too. But anyway, for other reasons, it wasn't about the book that I would get the computer, but it's more for other reasons like all these zoom calls now and all, but you know, maybe it would come in handy. So we'll see. I love the idea of just being able to like walk right out to that beach and Bali that you're at with your phone. And write the book. Yeah. Because it's that much easier than lugging a laptop. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just, I don't know. I like having it because I can do it anywhere. I don't have to be prepared. I just have to have my phone with me and. Yeah. There it is. So that's a good thing. Yeah. And coming to Bali living in Bali, moving to Bali. Then that was the beginning of another whole body of work. You know, I'm not part of this culture. I'm not part of this culture. I'm part of really extricating myself from the world as I knew it. You know. And coming to live here, which. Gave me an in between space to live in, because I'm not part of this world or this culture. And I'm too far away from the one I left. And so I have this really privileged place in between. Where there's a lot of freedom. And I just really like, I do that. The more energetic. Of this island. Without having to pay for it. You know, Like sell a part of your soul for it. So that's a really wonderful position to be in. And the energies here at like with every island. Are very concise.  It just makes things worse. So that's a really crazy, and for me, it's very, very, I love it. That's my favorite thing about being here is I feel very upheld by those energies completely. And in Bali, the veil between the light and the dark is very thin. It's all about the dark spirits and the demons and the, you know, but also about the light, but very black and white. So it's a very cool existence in that way, especially when you're not invested in the religious aspect of it, which of course I'm not. And the whole religious thing is another, another story that they're all living, which is great. And there's some beauty in it. And I'm sure it also adds to, because there's a lot of offerings and a lot of ceremonies, and I'm sure all of that energy adds to, you know, a greater energy that exists here, but at the same time, it's not really about the religion. So I'm happy that I'm not experiencing it from within that religion, but I get to experience it from my vantage point. So I really, I love being here. And I wouldn't want to be anywhere else right now. And that's how I'd say I travel around for sure.  So Indonesia, I'm going to travel Indonesia, which is a good thing, since I haven't done that yet. And I've been on this island for how long? So yeah, so we're going to, we're going to travel around and spend no more than three months in each place for at least a year. Oh, okay. So it's cool because this relocation vibration, especially to a place like Bali, where you can leverage the unleashing of the fullest creative capacities with not draining too big of a hole in the wallet is excellent because the entire vibe of ocean and nature energy is just further fueling what is unleashing creatively. Because a lot of the time you won't see specific nuanced aspects to life that when you're locked in a bedroom, it just as an example. But anyway, there's that component. And then there's the component of, like you mentioned, the difference between when you see things completely non duly versus when you still see things dualistically. And like kind of seeing that vantage point is so interesting because you can go one level up to see it. But the ones here can't yet see it. And then, because I was also there. And I love being a little up, it's so much better. And so you're, you feel like the next year you're going to go, you're going to go every three months to a new place near that area. So Indonesia might be less, but no more than three months. Like if there's a place we want to, you know, rent a place and stay for a bit, we have three months. That's it. I'm going to go with my partner. With your partner. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we may, you know, like, I think we're going to start in Java and we want it. There's a whole, but like Java's huge. But there's 17,000 islands that make up Bali. Yeah, that's so crazy. So there's a lot of places to go see. You know, so we'll start there, see where that brings us. And then we're going to travel across to go to Sumbha and Sumbawa.  And I don't even know where that year will end us up. Maybe we'll just keep going. The thing that's happening for both of us right now, simultaneously, funnily enough is that we're not interested in location anymore. I'm not interested in being in one place anymore. I've had enough of it. I don't want to keep a house. And I don't want to, it doesn't give me anything that I want. It used to, it doesn't anymore. So I need to be free to move around. I want to go wherever I want to go whenever I want to go there. I would like, there's so many places to stay here that you can stay in. I don't care. It's fine. But I no longer want to be in one place. Like have a home. I'm done with having a home right now. You know, that may change again. But for right now, it doesn't make any sense to me to have a home. I mean, I feel like my home is just with me wherever I am. So it doesn't matter. Right? Yeah, home is the, I am my shiny object. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So now I just want to, yeah, travel around, continue doing what I'm doing, continue writing, continue, you know, this group right now has been my life. I've started, started with NLM in January. And it was exactly what I was looking for.  Yeah. And have you been in it since January? Since January. Okay. Okay. Cool. So just for those that are listening that don't know no limits mentorship is where people like Andrea about 22 or so people are in it. Something like that. Get one on one, get to ask one on one questions to Bentino as a group as a group, they get to ask questions to Bentino and then Bentino responds with these questions. And then they do Zoom calls. And what are the other NLM perks? Well, I mean, just being in a closed chat group like that is have many advantages as well, as well in terms of just each other and how we're reflecting to each other and separating each other, what we're co-creating and creating together, getting to know one another, getting to know how we all work and also purification on times 10. Yes. Yes. Like, I mean, it can also be none of that.  So putting yourself on the line is a big part of it. But yeah, I mean, really purifying our desires in that group is a big, big part of it. Interesting that the sort of top down purification comes from Bentino and the team that have already been undergoing this process for so long. And then there's also this sort of bottom up purification that's happening in terms of you guys together. Yeah, which is super interesting. And I also have a similar somewhat experience with NLS where it's both happening top down and bottom up and then all the great friendships and stuff that are, yeah, becoming. And I love the way it's merging now. Like, this is the ultimate for me is the way that it's merging in that way, you know? So I love it because it's all, yeah, people are people. They all inspire me all the time in so many ways. It's in the same. Yeah, that's another core insight.  Oh, that's my thigh. Oh, I thought that was like your leg or something. Yeah, yeah, because I'm holding it in between my knees. Yeah, yeah. While I'm sitting on the bed. In between the knees. Yeah, that's my tripod. Yeah, it's my tripod right now. Yeah, I saw both your hands appear in the shot and I was like, okay, there's something happening that I'm not. Nothing too crazy. Yeah. So yeah, I'm really enjoying it a lot. It's just furthering, you know, what I've been already working on and what I've been already headed. And also in terms of the team aspect too, that's been very exciting because that's in fact why I applied because I knew I just had a feeling that like, I mean, what? It's just going to go on ad nausea month after month. No, it's heading somewhere. It's heading somewhere. The people in this group, something's going to, we're going to do something. We're going to be part of something and we're going to, and that's all I want. It's like, it's the turning the world right side up again thing. That's my thing. Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, I will not rest until I five year old. So yeah, yeah, it's cool that you had, you knew that, that there was that evolutionary blossoming that was going to unfold and that there was that, that there was that purification aspect to it plus the service at a larger level that's unfolding. And you know how I knew, you know how I knew truly is because I'm going to be part of it. That's how I knew. If I'm going to be part of it, well then I know where it's headed. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. For sure. For sure. I know exactly where it's headed. If I'm going to be part of it. And I feel that way in many situations, you know, in unknown situations that are ahead of me. What if you don't like it? What if it's this? What if it's that? What if it's the other? For me, it's always I'll be there. So it'll be great. I'll be there. So what do what do I have to be afraid of?  Well, I'll be there. So yeah, no worries. And I feel the same way about this, obviously. As long as I'm there, I can't lose. So yeah, and that's another one of my puzzle pieces is I'm like freakishly optimistic all the time, all the time. It's like, I don't know, maybe it's a blueprint thing or I don't know, but I'm unable to be negative. Really? I love that. Well, it also speaks to a lot of eradicating the roots of suffering. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. No doubt for sure. Oh, my God, yeah. Suffering. No, thank you. Yeah. For sure. Like either one's okay, really. But it's a choice. That's the only thing. Sometimes I choose it, but there's a reason. But mostly, it doesn't have to accompany me. Mostly not. Yeah, I can so sense this just explosiveness, post super contracted cage energetic freedom, radical optimism. I'm going to be there. Like I'm going to flip the world right side up. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. With everybody else who wants to do the same, right? Yeah. It's by no means a one woman job. Yeah. You know. Radical unattachment. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then, like Bentino says, when you're so detached, it's important then to be careful not to be attached to that. Yeah. Attached to radical attachment. Of course. Because it's easy. It's easy for me to be detached. And so it's also easy to use that as a way out. Yeah. Yeah. So be being careful on that front. The balance. Yeah. But it's like, but you have to go all the way to the pole. If you don't go all the way to the pole, you'll still have some stinky little attachments. Yeah. But also so that, you know, you can as well, because going all the way to the pole could be purposeful if as long as it's coming from the right place, it can be purposeful, right? So even in learning how to become detached, I realized that it's like, okay, well, why am I choosing this over that? And I know, okay, well, no, you're detached from the outcome. It's not about that. But then I realized, oh, it's because I'm detached that I need to do that thing. Because for the first time, it's not coming from some kind of greed or need or whatever. So you got to do it now. Now's the time to do that thing. Because now it's going to have an actual impact. Because you don't really care. So it's about those finding those things out where the whole purpose of attachment is freedom or detachment is freedom. So that you can walk into anything as long as you're coming from the right place and surf. Whatever that service requires, you can do it because you're detached, but you're not serving without. So that's kind of cool too, because it's like almost like, oh, okay, I got it. Oh, I can, yeah, give myself permission to do that thing there, which normally I would think is nasty. But it's like, yeah, but you're not doing it to be nasty. You know, so everything like it doesn't matter what it is, it only matters why.  So what doesn't matter, and there's only so much under the sun. But the why, why you're doing it, why you set it, why you chose it, why you're coming from there, that's all the nuts. That's what I think creates the power or the fuel or the flavor of the thing is the why. Yeah, and sometimes with clients that I work with, that's an exercise.  I'm like, yeah, that's the point all day, every day, every time you're cognizant of a choice, ask yourself why. It's a great exercise. Get really sensitive at where you're coming from. Yes, and also get really sensitive at how often you choose.  And you're either King Kong, you know, or walking through, but you know, I'm going to put my foot here and I'm going to put my, well, I got to walk. And it's like, yeah, okay, there goes a whole building of people, there goes a whole, you know, being sensitive, being aware. Oh, wow. Yeah, I think it's easier. I think it gets more automatic, like we said, it gets longer. It totally gets more automatic, but there's a, it's so funny. Sometimes there will be this, like beautiful, just flowing of the free perfection.  And like, that's also like the process of knowing that there's still some fraudulent stuff and that the flow will naturally show that fraudulent stuff. Yeah, and it's just so funny because like, like, this is like, this is like the last thing, like the last thing is to sort of like just disappear into the ordinary, like stop seeking to be seen, like just disappear into life itself, like undergoing this process of no self, just disappear into life itself, like be cool with being nobody, everybody and somebody, but without any attachment to being seen by the rest of life, just be life itself, rather than being a separate person, trying to extract peace and happiness and all this other stuff from life.  And that just makes me feel so much more at ease and relaxed and surrendered and at peace. When I can sort of look at that intellectually, and then begin embodying it more experientially and just feeling the slow realization of it really become more and more anchored in. Be known only to yourself. You're known only to yourself? Well, to be known only to yourself. It's me who needs to know, only me, only me.  That's right, to know, to know myself. Sorry, I had to plug in my phone there. Yeah. People want to be different. Go ahead. Yeah. To become known. Yes, yes. What's the first rule is to know your mind, know your mind. And when we are practicing knowing our mind, it also happens to be that our mind is ourself at that time. It is. We identify our minds with ourselves and our bodies with ourselves. Right. So to really be known by yourself, actually known. Yeah. Yes. But detached from anyone else really knowing you or seeing you. There you go. Yes. Because it all does anyway, it blends together anyway, but you have to go all the way to the pole first. And then anyway, as you shepherd, people will naturally, as you in Matthew 633, you first seek the kingdom of God within. And then all these fruits come to you.  And then you get to a point where you shepherd so cleanly in service to the one intelligence that were anyway fruits come, but you're so detached from the fruits that you don't let them trigger you into any of your identifications. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It's like making money. You don't need to make money. You know, you need to focus on yourself and your growth and being true and knowing where you're coming from. And guess what? If you do that long enough, money is just an inevitable result. It just comes. You don't have to try for it. You know, it's almost a wasted effort to making money. Because there's no reason for it. There's no truth behind it. What is it good for? Make self and money will come. And no matter what falls my life, immediately I go to vibration immediately. Immediately. Because that's all that matters. That's all that's required. That's the only thing that requires my attention. Another Richard Condon saying what is the only thing that requires your attention, your vibration. Nothing else. Yeah. It's great. And then the unfolding is from there. Yeah. Yeah. And I live that. I live that for sure. I mean, I've lived that a long time just to hear him speak that I was just like, yes. Nothing else matters. There's been a lot of excitement in NLS around coming from that place of vibrational wholeness and unity. And Bentinia has been pretty adamant about getting us to focus on that vibrational state and then having that unfold all of the exterior circumstances. The more that you're whole and unified and seeing the homogenous existence, seeing intelligent infinity, the more that you come from that place, the more that you're vibrationally it, that it's locked in, that you're getting it, that you've got it, that the more that unfolds from this unit of life itself. And so from there, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the energy you create within is what the outcome will be. Yeah. As well. So it has to be the same. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's all a mirror in and out. Such a mirror. Yeah. Collapsed into one. Yeah. And that's, I say that happening in all of the groups. Definitely. That coming together from that undivided wholeness. It's happening. And less efforting and pushing and forcing and making. Yeah. Wow. That's like the ideal is not having to look over your shoulder, not having to, like you mentioned, do the double checking where you're coming from, not having to feel fear to say something into the field of the team. Yeah. But I think you have to accompany that with also sort of a childlike glee for maybe being called out and maybe having a reflection of some impurity. It has to be. That has to be just as exciting. Definitely. Totally. And just as interesting. I mean, we have to somewhat loop for that to a certain extent. If we truly want to become purified, then we have to look forward to any and all ways that that could potentially happen. Yeah. Look for the key of that. Yes. That's it. Look forward to that. You know, because then also when you're looking forward to that, then you also have less of a chance of censoring yourself or not being transparent because it's okay. Be transparent, be honest, be real. Believe me, you'll get all the feedback you need. Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, those were such things. Yeah, just be real. I love the look forward to the purification dissolving. That shit's funny. Like look forward to it. Get pumped about it. Yeah, that's great. I love the get pumped energy about it. There's like such a taboo around dissolving that and it's better to come at it from excitement of like, all right. All right, baptized by fire. Yeah, yeah, let's let's see what it's the same with fear. It's the same with fear, like to use fear as a marker. That's how we use it. Yeah. Unless there's a bear in front of me.  Fear means do that. To me, yes. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. What am I most afraid of right now? That's the next thing on my agenda. Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting. It has to be because then otherwise I'm avoiding and otherwise then I'm coming from fear. I mean, it's a place that I can clearly eliminate coming from. Yeah, yeah, clearly. So why wouldn't I just take myself up on it? Yeah, this kind of boils down to also the yes theory seek discomfort. I love that. But then again, but to the yeah. Yeah, because when it's comfortable, when it becomes comfortable, seek discomfort until it becomes comfortable. There you go. Yeah. That's it. And then don't necessarily seek it anymore, but instead revel in the freedom you have to be in it or not. It's the same. There you go. Yeah, exhaust the seeking and then you can discern between when you're abiding and the freedom versus when you're contracting your energy. Yeah. And also just knowing that you can go anywhere to serve, that you're not combined in confined quarters. Well, I can serve like this or I can serve like that. No, you can serve in any way that is called for because you're not attached to anything. Oh, it's kind of funny, like even after transcending the paradigm of spirituality itself, that there's still a purification.  But then the thing that remains is purification. Yeah. That's what's funny. That's the thing that remains. It kind of goes on forever. Yeah. Like it just goes on and goes on and goes on and goes on.  That shit's funny. Well, and literally thank God for that. Yeah.  Yeah. It's a pretty cool place to rap, do you feel so? The witch, sorry. To rap, to close up the show. Oh, yes. Sorry. My terminology. You want to rap girl? Let's rap. Rap the show. Rap the show. No, I'm not. No, that's fine. It's good. I think we got some good chit chat out there. It was very good. I feel so honored to be, have been a part of it. And I'm so happy to have met you as well. Me too. Like really. And now we're going to be working together. Yeah, it's cool to see what unfolds. Yeah, in what's unfolding. And I really recommend people to check out the links in the bio to not only the No Limits Society Conversations playlist that we were mentioning, but also the No Limits Society. The link is in the bio below. Go and check it out.  All the things that Andrea was sharing with us about getting it, locking it in, just being real, all these types of things are like the front and center. Oh, see, I missed out on because we're on Zoom and we're not on the other thing. All those fancy little quotes that you would put up on the screen there. Hey, she's got like, she knows what we, yeah, correct. I would have been putting all of them up on StreamYard if we were on that platform for sure. I just love it. I love it when you do that because it sort of just slowly, quickly immortalizes that person in that moment. It grabs a snap shot of their brilliance and their genius and their love and their infinite self and it's just beautiful and wonderful. Yes, it further encapsulates the aroma or the firework and then it further amplifies for the viewers like, oh, there's that key bit. And then like, yeah, it sits in greater. It's great. Yeah, I mean, it acts as so when you look, it serves as well in such a great way. Yes. No, it's really lovely. It's really lovely. I'm so happy that you catch that. That part's definitely one of my favorite parts.  That's my favorite part. I'm not kidding. It's my favorite part. I love it when you do that because. Cool. You're so sweet.  He's going to display that, you know? Yeah, seriously. You're so sweet. Oh, you're so sweet. You're so sweet. So I like that as well. But anyway, this is back to that recognizing and translating. She's so. She's so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. We'll have more. We'll have more episodes together where I'll get the opportunity to do the live distillation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. Oh, I love that. That's great. Okay. Well, that's excellent. Maybe maybe I'll be able to interview you for my audience at one point. Ah, yeah, we could also do we've welcomed that on the show as well, where the conversation is a little bit more flicked also from you, which, and regardless, it'll still be a good dialectic. That's, that's the, yeah. And yeah, yeah, it's a play. So it'd be good. We could definitely do that on the program as well, or we could also do that if you would like for the channel or whatnot that you're building on when you're in or whatever we end up unfolding, which we don't even know. That's right. Yeah, all that stuff or even just on a call. I just have a bazillion questions for you. So, you know, we'll get perfect. Perfect. All right. Thanks, everybody for tuning in. We love you so much. Super grateful. We would love to hear your thoughts in the comments below on the episode. Let us know your thoughts about getting it locking it in. All this good stuff. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Just be real. All those good ones. And like the video for brought you value helps the algorithm. Subscribe if you haven't to the channel. Share the video with people that you know this would profoundly benefit. And check out the links in the bio below to Andrea's writing. She's got a lot of great writing on her medium. Check out her Instagram as well that links in the bio below. And she's got a lot of great posts there to check out and check out the no limit society. Again, the conversations playlist and also the no limit society link as well to the actual platform. All right. That is all right. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Andrea. You're welcome. Thank you. Pleasure. So grateful.


This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners. Thanks to all of you, including Scott Hepburn, Bjorn Andre, and Jeff Wilkes. Coming up on DTNS, does Microsoft Game Pass lose money? Maybe it does. Disney will turn a live hockey game into animation on the fly, and who should be the most embarrassed about their generative AI? We'll tell you. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, February 14th, St. Valentine's Day to those who celebrate. In Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt. From lovely Cleveland, Ohio, I'm Rich Drafileno. From the modern rogue world headquarters outside of Austin, Texas, I'm Brian Brushwood. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Shea. And a happy Saints Day to all of you. I was just thinking about Saints. It's a very religious day, St. Valentine's Day. Right? Yeah. Well, let's not sully it by sticking around talking about things that we shouldn't. Let's start with the quick hits. Microsoft officially retired Internet Explorer in June last year, but Wednesday, it put it to rest for good. Disabling the browser through a Microsoft Edge update on most versions of Windows 10. Now, there's still a few survivors out there. Exceptions include Microsoft's long-term servicing channel for Windows 10 and versions like the Windows 10 China government edition. But most of them are gone. Microsoft's MS, HTML and Trident engines will still be supported, though. And the company says it will support IE mode in Edge through at least 2029. That's not all, though. Microsoft also laid to rest its Yammer enterprise social network. It will slowly be changed into Viva Engage anywhere that it hasn't been renamed already. And I'm shocked. Shocked news. Twitter has delayed the launch of its new paid API by a few more days. The company had previously announced that the new API would be launching on February 9. Then it subsequently delayed that to the 13th, what we call today as yesterday. And it's now been postponed for a few more days. With no specific date this time, seemingly they've learned their lesson. The paid API will allow developers to access premium features including more data and higher access limits for a fee. Twitter said the delay was part of our efforts to create an optimal experience for the developer community. Good luck with that. Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told the Financial Times that the company is hopeful it can decide on a physical retail format this year that it will then quote go big on. Now, this is interesting considering Amazon has been kind of retreating from retail. It closed most of its bookstores, all of its four-star shops and its pop-up shops. And it took a $720 million loss last quarter due to slowing grocery sales. While it figures out a successful format for retail this year, though, it is already making advances in autonomous cars. Amazon's Zoox carried passengers in its fully autonomous electric vehicle on public roads for the first time on a one-mile stretch between the company's two main buildings in Foster City, California. Zoox's vehicles have no controls or pedals and can carry up to four passengers at a time. As of March 16th, Instagram creators will no longer be able to tag products during live stream. This marks a continued retreat from Meta from live shopping. It shut down the same capability on Facebook back in October. While live shopping remains extremely popular in Asian markets using apps like WeChat, Taobao Live, and Doyin, it's been a tough nut to crack in the U.S. And it's not just Meta. Back in July, TikTok abandoned plans to expand its live shopping to the U.S. and to Europe. Electric vertical takeoff and landing or EVTOL aircraft company Joby Aviation said it began final assembly of its prototype and expects to begin test flights of it by mid-year. Last week, Joby received full FAA Part 23 certification that the aircraft's design conforms to safety requirements and standards set by the U.S. FAA. That allows it to test the prototype. The next step is to get production certification so it can mass produce them. The company hopes to begin commercial operations in 2025. All right. Let's start off with this groundbreaking revelatory revelation. It's a revelatory revelation, Rich. What is it? Yes. Well, last week, the U.K.'s competition and markets authority released a report of its provisional findings related to Microsoft's proposed acquisition of, say, with me now, Activision Blizzard. One of the main concerns is that if Microsoft gets Activision, then it gets Call of Duty, and if it gets Call of Duty, that could be used to hurt Sony. Of course, Microsoft has sworn up and down that it will not restrict Call of Duty from PlayStation. They said it'll give it to anybody that wants it. But some folks have pointed out that if Microsoft includes Call of Duty games on day one on its Game Pass subscription, it could hurt PlayStation sales. Although back in 2018, Xbox Head Phil Schiller said releasing a game on Game Pass increased sales. So, Tom, what's changed? Yeah. A lot of things. COVID, for example. Oh, yeah. But also it's been five years and they've gathered more data on Game Pass. So the game community got a little excited when GamesIndustry.biz found this little passage deep within the 277-page U.K. report. It said, Microsoft also submitted that its internal analysis shows a redacted percentage decline in base game sales 12 months following their edition on Game Pass. We don't know what that percentage is, but it's a decline. The report also notes that Activision historically opposed including games in its subscription services, or in other subscription services, because it severely cannibalizes sales of games. Kotaku notes that it has seen internal documents from Xbox that said that adding games to Game Pass would lead to cannibalization of digital sales. Well, all of this clearly looks bad for one aspect of Microsoft's argument for why it should be allowed to buy Activision Blizzard. In other words, it might actually hurt game sales.  Brian, what do you think? Is Xbox Game Pass a money loser? Is that bad? There's two things to chime in on, one of which is when it comes to monopoly concerns, keep in mind that the number one platform on the entire planet is Steam. It's not Xbox. It's not PlayStation. But beyond that, keep in mind that in the old days, I think everybody on the panel remembers the days of piracy. We also remember the days where people tried to have it both ways. HBO tried to have it both ways where they would brag about the fact that Game of Thrones was the most pirated content on the internet, and yet also did not offer a legitimate way to get it. So Game Pass, number one, it's slow, it's awkward, it's fumbly, if you stream it, you've got some soupy lag to it and all that. It seems to me like it's white hat piracy. Basically, a way to, even if it does lose money, what it does is it keeps people in our ever evolving theory of convenience, just trumping fidelities, it's so convenient that people won't bother to actually pirate things. Yeah, why mess with torrents when you can just pay this low, low fee and get everything easily. And get an equally crappy version of the experience. Yeah, but all at one place. I don't know, Rich, what do you think of that? I definitely think, I mean, convenience beating free piracy is kind of a proven model for the most part. I mean, definitely, we're willing to accept a lower bit right song in exchange for the supreme convenience of having it anywhere. And game streaming is new enough that we're still kind of figuring out, okay, what's the minimum level of bad that we need that we can put this out here. What's sticking to my mind looking at this is the idea we now, you know, this statement that internal analysis shows percentage decline in base game sales 12 months. That's like all I'm assuming that means all games in aggregate that. Yeah, we don't know how it breaks down, right? That's a good point. So what stands out to me is Schiller's argument with why Xbox or Game Pass increases game sales is that it leads to more visibility on platforms like Twitch hilariously mentioned mixer at the time. So like the I still think that's a valid argument when you're talking about smaller games that need to get visibility out there if that's free and game or free if it's included in the game pass subscription. Probably a lot more people will play it and you'll see more people playing it on stream and stuff like that call of duty doesn't need that every call of duty does not need discoverability when there's a new release out there. So I think that this is probably a more nuanced conversation of Schiller said this or he said that. I am really not interested in going back to Schiller's five year old statement and talking about whether he meant it or not. I bet if you could get Phil Schiller on the record he would say like yeah it was true in 2018 it's not anymore. I think it's as simple as that. I do think that Microsoft's response to this was telling where they just talked about yeah we want to we want to make developers money. They did not deny anything out of this because you can make more money with a subscription service even while reducing sales because you've got guaranteed monthly revenue. Somebody spends $70 on one game they may or may not buy another game for a while if you're getting $10 a month out of them that's guaranteed revenue. So it may make more sense for Microsoft to say like yeah it might reduce game sales but in the end it's going to make us more money. And even though you get discounted DLC in Game Pass you still have to pay that so if everyone is doing apps and stuff like that. You know there are revenue streams for for developers and for Microsoft of course that exists you know kind of within that Game Pass subscription. This is a little bit like the success mirage and I don't mean that in mean way when I talk about the SB 500 where the SB 500 statistically I don't know 10 12% year over year adjusted for inflation forever and ever and ever. But part of the reason it's able to achieve that is because it drops the losers and picks up new possible winners and it could be that Game Pass has the same kind of thing going. Yeah yeah no that's a good point too I I really do think in the end this little passage is not good for Microsoft's argument to acquire Activision Blizzard. It's not deadly they've got other arguments that they can use it's already looking unlikely for other reasons but I don't think it means that Game Pass is somehow a bad business idea for Microsoft for lots of the reasons that we've mentioned here. Alright old folks like us typically first engaged with pro sports maybe on television or even the radio but younger viewers like you out there listening more often use TikTok or Instagram to check out what happened in a game. So the NHL is going to use its analytics tech to try to get younger viewers interested in watching a full game. Yeah the NHL will animate a live game on March 14 between the Washington Capitals and the New York Rangers called the NHL Big City Greens Classic. The game will feature characters from the TV show Big City Greens alongside animated versions of actual hockey players using the NHL Edge system to track the players and the puck. It'll also feature commentators reacting to some of the action from those animated characters from Big City Greens. While the unaltered game will broadcast on ESPN so you know if that's how you want it it's available you can watch the animated version on Disney Channel Disney XD and Disney Plus. The NHL's SVP of business development David Lahasky said this is just a test but that data from NHL Edge could make it possible to do things like customized game broadcasts in Roblox or Minecraft. Yeah Friday 19 and our chat is already going so like NFL Slime Time on Paramount people you might think of them the manning alternate commentary like there's there's examples of people doing this already. Brian it seems like this is a cool aspect of having infinite channels versus the old days when you only had three or four that you it makes more sense to try out something and try to garner a new audience. Yes and it's also a moment to take a moment and take stock of your own values. Do you value like the quote unquote real story or do you value the myths and legends that we project on to our various sports teams etc etc etc. Because ultimately all sports is a random number generator but one that that is especially with like a big city greens which is an excellent show I will vouch for is a good way for preteens to eventually care about the random noise generator and then eventually at the age of 1718 they're going to figure out oh wait that was the Eagles the whole time. Yeah yeah I'm an Eagles fan. I was I did an interview with Derek Gould he's the baseball writer for the St. Louis Post Dispatch it'll be on a word with Tom Merritt next week. And in that interview he talked about how his son engages with baseball in an entirely different way than we did growing up which is what we were talking about at the beginning is using Tik Tok. He just looks at highlights and and so finding a way to attract folks to watch sports may not be important to society but it's certainly important to sports and sports franchises and people like sports. So this is a really interesting attempt and I don't think this is the end of it I can't wait to see what other takes people are going to have on sports. You may turn up your nose and say ah this is this is silly I just want to watch the game great you can ESPN is going to give you just the game you don't have to watch the big city greens version of it. Any more than you have to listen to the manning commentary on Monday Night Football or anything else I I want to see more of this I want to see some some full on like sci-fi visualization creations turn turn a football game into Quidditch. I don't know the mind boggles there's there's part of me that wonders whether or not it's already happening for example my 18 year old daughter is really into baseball which is a complete nonsense engine. All of the names of the teams are nonsense the commissioners nonsense everything's nonsense and it's all random number generator. But what if baseball were to recreate let's say 1947 World Series number for number and then reveal.  Yeah yeah or or the St. Louis brown socks. Is that a thing. It was in the 1800s. All right folks what do you want to hear us talk about on the show we get a lot of our best story ideas from you and one way to let us know is our subreddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com. Well technologies that lumped under the very general term AI are making news a lot these days just in the last 24 hours. Here's just a quick rundown of some of the news that's out there. Automatic voice transcription company Otter AI launched Otter pilot that automates meeting notes. DARPA announced Monday that its air combat evolution team has developed software that is successfully flown in F 16 multiple times with a human on board for safety and for planetary peace. Our Google chairman and founding member of the US government's Defense Innovation Board Eric Schmidt told wired about is starry a machine learning system to virtually assemble and test military equipment like tanks and on a lighter note Buzzfeed originally officially launched its infinity quizzes that use open AI's API to create a personal narrative base on just a few questions you just answer a few questions it comes up with something totally distinct every time. The first round of these quizzes include create your own romcom and date your celebrity crush Tom which one of these stood out to you create your own romcom. I think oh sorry. Of all the AI stories. Yeah. Interesting to see the F 16 thing. It definitely had a human pilot on board and the idea is to make a more capable autopilot. So that the pilot the human pilot can can focus on intelligence gathering targeting things like that. So that's fascinating. And the Buzzfeed thing all kidding aside the infinity quizzes I can't wait to try these out. If you're a good day internet listener if you're a patron stick around we're going to try a couple of these out collaboratively with the crew after Daily Tech News show is over. What about you Rich. The other pilot I already use other AI for like show notes for it's a thing or transcripts for there. And so like all of this is doing is taking what is already a very reliable transcription product. I mean I don't want to say all it's doing. I give it some credit but it's taking that and doing a lot more real time stuff it's giving you real time notes and making it easier for people that are either dipping in and out of meetings or not in meetings like as someone who wants to avoid meetings as much as possible any way that you can have a way to passively absorb that information while I'm ignoring a meeting is always welcome. So I'm super interested in stuff like that. All right. But the main thrust of the A.I. related news is the search engine race still and at a conference Monday Alphabet chairman John Hennessey. You were like wait a minute Alphabet chairman's name is John Hennessey. Yeah chairman of the board of directors generally sticks to strictly financial takes you don't hear him talking about the business a lot. But this time he did he got on the record and he made some headlines saying he thinks generative A.I. is still a year or two away from being truly useful. He said quote I think Google was hesitant to productize this because it didn't think it was really ready for a product yet. But I think as a demonstration vehicle it's a great piece of technology. That's all fine. He's reacting to the fact that Google took a lot of heat when it tweeted a gift with results from the Bard generative A.I. that they are adding to Google that had an incorrect fact related to which telescope discovered the first exoplanet. I gave him a lot of heat for that not because the A.I. got it wrong but because they didn't catch it and they tweeted it out as an example just just a bad human move. Monday search engine researcher Dimitri Bremerton pointed out that Bing also displayed factual errors during Microsoft's demonstration last week. For example it gave a measurement for the cord length for a cordless vacuum that you know cordless didn't have a cord. And when asked questions about a financial document it made a bunch of errors including incorrectly referring to unadjusted growth gross margin is gross margin as well as incorrectly calculating operating margin things that I would do probably. But you if you're relying on this thing you wouldn't want it to do. So what's the takeaway here Brian is Bing just as bad as Google when it comes to generative A.I. or is it as simple as just none of these tools are good yet. No it's not as good and it doesn't have to be as good that's the beauty of being Pepsi Pepsi to somebody else's Coke. So it's like it's on Google as somebody who appears to have been asleep at the wheel to verify this like oh no we know all about this work here for it. Unfortunately it was a human disaster that they published the wrong fact on on their socially promoted GIF on there. Meanwhile Bing is in the unique position where it's like can anybody expect less from Bing. As a result they get to do whatever and they get get to be as wrong as you want. All I know is that Bing is doing something and Google is messing up. That's that's all I read as a consumer. Yeah yeah that's that that's the rhetoric out there you're absolutely right. Yes kind of this a challenger brand or whatever you want to call you know I'm thinking of the Pepsi Coke comparison specifically. But look at what the products that Microsoft launched this with right. Things that are in no way key to their revenue. It's part of the like the benefit of them having a very diversified sources of revenue for the company right they can afford to take a risk on Bing. They can afford to take a risk on Edge which is you know a second or third place browser depending on what graphs you're looking at what market share you're looking at. So it's it's not they don't have the number one browser they don't have the number one search and so they can be super aggressive with this and say. You know what we can gather some data if nothing else we can get a ton of data to make this better so that as we start rolling it in they're already starting to roll it into word stuff more visibly. Rolling it into office and some of the stuff where they have a lot more productivity stakes a lot more I guess to lose in a lot of ways that they can make sure that their products which is usually a strategy that Google makes right when Google wants to disrupt something. I'm thinking of something like Google Docs like yeah we'll roll out the bad thing first and you can use it for free and who cares it's free and it's something you didn't have before. And yeah we're going to make it a lot better. It's a very different situation where Google is in the driver's seat with search and the driver's seat with Chrome things they don't want to screw up because they're very good for their business that is not very diversified. And all of a sudden they can you know that they find that they're having to play catch up potential or definitely with Microsoft. Well and the canonical parallels that we would make is Hertz number one driving rental car company or whatever. Avis being in number two they say we're number two we try harder. In the case of Google where Google in the case of Bing it's like Bing we're trying things like that's powerful. And I think a lot of people are on board for it. I know that's a great answer. Dimitri Bremerton in his article which was was well done was like why is everybody giving Bing a pass. I think Brian just answered the question that that's why everyone is or not everyone but a lot of people are giving Bing a pass. I used open AIS chat GPT to write a bunch of the quick hits today. I never let the text stand as it was I had to I had to use I had to modify it multiple times every time it put a date it was wrong. It said that the the Twitter API had been delayed to the 14th it was the 13th. It said that Jobe was going to do its commercial operations in 2024 was 2025. So yeah I had to go back and look at these and go like wait is everything in here right. Nope it's not but it was still faster. It still laid the scaffolding for me it saved me time. And they're they're also despite the fact that they're claiming that this is not ready for primetime what I have you. But but like there are realtors that are using it to create flowery flowery language for various you know cottages and so on. It's it's being used. It's going to get better. It's just it's not good at everything right now. The thing that gets me is is these analysts who always say there's dozens of them and I respect every single one of them. But they always say like the problem with jet GPT is it confidently states things are wrong. There's nothing confident about it. It just spits out words one after the other. You're reading in the confidence. You shouldn't have the confidence in it. You should be skeptical about it. And then it won't seem confident. It'll just seem like a helpful tool. I definitely asked a chat GPT. I asked what's wrong with Brian brushwood. And it refused to answer which I respect. Not not for me to tell you said GPT. Yeah. All right. Well James Brown a graphics engineer at Weta Workshop formally made news by upgrading tiny Lego computers with screens that can display wire frame targeting animations and scrolling text basic stuff. It's still impressive. Now his computers have built-in USB C ports some even have touch controls and Brown now even cast his own resin Lego bricks. But what is hardware really if it can't play doom Brown successfully demonstrated running the game on one of his Lego power bricks for a few months ago. They draw power from a USB connection on a disconnected Lego power brick with a nine volt battery inside Brown recently converted the electronics inside the bricks into a wearable self contained ring running the Rp 20 40 version of doom with custom code optimizing it for a great scale display. You can't actually control the action on screen while wearing the ring but Brown says he may build a new version with flexible materials. So the ring is more durable wearable doom. Truly this I forget chat GPT. Now the future. We live perfect Valentine's Day gift. Slightly pedantic take here. There's a difference between displaying doom being played and actually playing doom. I didn't see any controls in any of that fair enough. This is this is just a circuit board. It has 16 K flash memory 16 K flash memory and 4 K of RAM. So it's not going to run doom but it's an impressive monitor. Don't when you say. Yeah. Oh. That's my dream display right there. All right. Folks. We appreciate you being with us and we would like you to thank Brian brushwood go to Twitter. Atchwood say thank you Brian for being on Daily Tech news show. Brian where else should people go? You know what? I'll do you one better. Why don't you head on over to greatest con podcast dot com and listen to the first two seasons of world's greatest con because season three is coming. We're talking about weeks days like like like 40 something days until it comes out to give or take a big secret what it is. It's very very good.  I will say only this about it. Brian gave me a sneak peek. I listened to the first episode thinking like, you know what? I'm sure it's good. But for my buddy Brian, I'm going to make sure I set aside a little bit of time to listen to as much as I can. And I finished the whole GD series. I could not stop myself. You're going to love it. Even if you read the description, you're like, I don't know. 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Free things a narcissist cannot stand free things. They hate Free things. They cannot tolerate There are a lot of things that narcissists do not like But in this video, there are free things that I would like to focus on There are free things that they cannot stand It provokes certain emotions within them It makes them very angry It makes them feel like they need to do something If you are an empath You may personalize these situations You may think that it is something personally to do with you But when you are dealing with someone who is narcissistic It has more to do with them than it does to do with you Because they are self-absorbed and they lack empathy They don't share your experiences They see themselves as a center of the world Where everything flows through them As though everything has something to do with them They personalize everything They identify with things which you may not be aware of Because they're very insecure They lack confidence in themselves So they see everything as a threat Which is why there are so many things that they hate There are so many things that they cannot stand Things that may seem of little importance to you To them it's such a big deal They turn molehills into mountains They make a slight difficulty seem like a serious problem Which may then affect how you begin to see things You may start to attribute importance to things that are not worthy of your attention Because you have been trained to value the same things as the narcissist Things that are irrelevant to most people But important to the narcissist The narcissist gradually trains their targets to be just like them While they gradually mold themselves into becoming more like you But then they point the finger at you And claim that you are fake You are the imposter When they're the ones who stole your identity And they did everything to make you angry and bitter just like they always were While they take on your calm, cool and collected personality Because if you look back You will remember how you never used to be bothered about things They were the ones who were always on edge They were always worrying about something But once you've spent enough time with the narcissist You eventually become just like them You become short fused You become irritable Because they're training you to become just like them They grooming you into a dob in their characteristic traits When really They're the ones who are always angry They're the ones who can never be happy about anything Because there are so many things that the narcissist cannot stand There are so many things that they cannot tolerate Worst of all, they cannot tolerate themselves They are shame-based people Who are doing everything they can to avoid reflecting on their shame So they have to coordinate the external world In a way where they can avoid seeing themselves as they actually are And instead live in a fantasy world with other extensions of their false self Or by projecting everything they hate about themselves Or to other people But things naturally occur in life Where the narcissist has to confront situations that they do not like Things that are not compatible with their false self Or people who are not willing to carry their negative attributes or emotional baggage The narcissist needs to arrange everything that they're liking So that they can live in this eternal daydream Where they can be whatever they want to be Where no one can question their false reality But there are three things they cannot stand Three things that pull them out of their fake world One, when they feel like someone is stealing the show When someone else attracts more attention and praise When they feel like someone is taking their spotlight The narcissist cannot give them the praise that they deserve They will become bitter and resentful towards them They will undermine them They will target their self-esteem They will try to change the way that people perceive them They will do anything to bring that person down to their level They especially hate it if someone steals your attention away from them They want all of your attention And they get very jealous when they see someone else receiving it from you They feel entitled to all of your time and attention And they think that anyone else is just not deserving of it Or they will try to make you think that you are not deserving of anyone else As though they are the only ones who will tolerate you This is designed to isolate you So that they can further control you They hate anyone who has the spotlight Anyone who has the ability to take risks Anyone who is confident and courageous Because they want that And they see it as though they are more deserving of it Or as though you stole it from them Because they are very arrogant and entitled They crave attention and praise So if you steal the spotlight from the narcissist They will envy you and they will plot to destroy you Because in their minds only they deserve it Only they have a right to it To when they can't get a reaction out of you The narcissist cannot stand it when they can't get a reaction out of you They always have to win They have to have the last laugh So they want you to fail They want you to be miserable It gives them satisfaction It makes them feel better about themselves But when you move on and become a better person It makes them really angry They hate it when you ignore them They hate it when you try to do better with your life There's nothing they hate more Than losing control They're very envious and jealous They use people to regulate their self-esteem And if they cannot control you They cannot control their own emotions Even if you go no contact They will still be watching to see if you have moved on They will want to see if you are still hurting If you have managed to overcome everything that they put you through It gives them great satisfaction To know if you are still suffering It makes them feel better about their own lives But if you've moved on And you're doing good It makes them really angry Free When people don't validate their false self When people don't validate their illusions When they don't go along with their false narrative When they don't agree with their proposals or ideas They see it as rejection They cannot take no for an answer That is an offence to the narcissist It causes a narcissistic injury Which will be followed by narcissistic rage Because in their minds it's unfair They believe that they have a right to whatever they want Just because they want it So if you deny them of anything Something must be wrong with you You are trying to make their lives difficult or inconvenient So now you must pay the price You deserve to be punished Because in their minds You have no right to tell them no But if you do They will show you every reason why you are wrong Why you are beneath them And why they are superior to you As though they are greater than anything that you have to offer As though they're better than you When you say no to a narcissist It puts a boundary between you and them And they do not like that They want a meshment They want to make boundaries for you So that they can place you within certain limits And keep you under their control But they do not want you to have any boundaries for yourself They need to have access to their supplier all times They need to be able to have and do whatever they want Whenever they want They cannot understand the concept that they cannot always get what they want Healthy people have boundaries They have limitations But the narcissist is self-absorbed and they lack empathy They don't care about how their behaviour affects you They don't respect you All they care about is what they want Thank you for watching I hope this video resonates with you Please like Comment Share and subscribe If you would like to donate My PayPal link is in the video description Coach the inquiries You can email me at coach.narksurvivor.co.uk Thank you for watching and I'll talk to you soon