So I was trying to get on you can see yourself in my reflection. Look at that Okay, anyways, I don't go live very often guys. I saw a couple of you are waiting already while I was trying to figure out how to make the thumbnail Is it rude to have sunglasses on while I'm talking to you one second. Let me put my glasses on while we wait for people to pile in So I'm debating whether or not to release the video. I'm trying to keep my videos one week behind So when I film today today's video would be released next Thursday. It's easier for me keeps everything Sort of on track, right? Oh, these are dirty. Of course they are but So I'm putting up a video tonight, which will be available to members And I think I'm gonna put it live on YouTube tomorrow at 4 p.m. Central So I figured I'd pop on here and do a live stream since there's not gonna be a video today And then last weekend I didn't film anything for Saturday Sunday and Monday. I had a long weekend at home We had a doctor's appointment and A couple other things at home. So I think I'll release a video tomorrow then Saturday Sunday Monday will have to do live streams and then That can you guys hear me or is this thing? How's the audio guys? How's it going? Yeah, so I put together a video for today Now it'll be uploaded on to my channel later tonight But it'll be available on YouTube live Tomorrow at 4 p.m. But it'll be available to members today. So members get it a day early that way but Trying to figure everything out like I was saying when I was first starting my live I like to have my videos a week behind. So what I filmed today I Have a week to get everything put together because I while I'm working I'm usually just rush rush rush rush rush. I don't always have time to put together my videos every single day and Release them because I have to when I'm on the road here I have to find time to get the footage onto the computer and then I have to get it into my program And then I have to edit it all make it into a nice little blog then I have to render it after it's done rendering I have to compress it after it's done being compressed then I have to upload it This whole process takes a few hours, and I don't always have a few hours every day So I try to catch up on days when I have time today. I'll have a little bit of extra time I can catch up So that gives me a little bit of time. So what I filmed today, I usually release like next Thursday So today's Thursday so next Thursday it would go live But as soon as I have it uploaded whenever I can catch up during the week and get it uploaded It goes on to my channel and the members can view it right away But I release it live one per day that way sort of spreads it out and you're not all like Slammed with five trucker Josh videos in one day though. Some of you seem like you would like that Others I think it would be a little bit overwhelming And I think some vlogs would get overlooked that way so I like to spread it out never fear Alvin is here Alvin You've been around for years Thank you for always coming and hanging out. You're one of my very first subscribers. I remember that I always remember that Never fear Alvin is here That's a good tagline because it's stuck in my mind now every time you show up. I know it's you Yeah, so like I was saying earlier there will be an upload I'm uploading tonight a video that I just uploaded from last Friday, so I'm trying to catch up with everything Members will have access to that right away tomorrow at 4 p.m. Central time that lie that that vlog will go live So tomorrow at 4 p.m. You can set your alarm clocks. There will be a new trucker Josh video and I will probably do another live stream this weekend because I have to keep things organized because when it when it gets off when it's not organized the way I like it to be my brain sort of forgets. Did I release a video today? Am I supposed to release a video? Have I shared it out to my social platforms yet? Like it automatically gets uploaded and released on YouTube, but it doesn't automatically get shared to Facebook X and Instagram those are the only other Social media platforms I use if you want to know if it's me might all have a little check mark beside my name But also below all of my videos and below this one as well in the description You can find all of my official social media anything else is not mine I don't have a telegram account There's scammers that are always trying to pose as me trying to get you to give them stuff and go over to telegram or WhatsApp That's not me. That's not me So just make sure you're on the right accounts go and follow them then you can follow me there and keep up to date We have some exciting stuff going on in this coming week. I'm very excited about it next week is gonna be fun I'm flying out For a day so my son's birthday is next Friday. This is his first birthday I'm I've got to be home for that, but there's a big event happening on the same weekend You guys might have heard of it. It's called the mid-America trucking show It's on the exact weekend of my son's birthday, so I can't be there for the whole time But I am meeting some friends. I'm flying out to be there for a little while But I'll tell you more about that as the time comes As it gets closer, so that's for next week, so Monetrip right now. I got to go grab a load. That'll take me home I'm gonna deliver it into the sketch one on Monday and then go home and then for all of next week I'm off. I have like this event that I'm going to in Louisville Then I'm gonna be busy there I'm only gonna be there for one day and my whole schedule is just right crammed books So I don't even know if you guys are gonna be there I don't know when to tell you to come say hi or what not so stay tuned to my social platforms Facebook especially that's where I spill the most beans all the time But this one is a is a special one. You'll you'll hear more about it as the time gets closer me going out there for One day coming back. It's my son's birthday on the Friday and on the weekend We're having a big party with family and friends for him. So there won't be any trucking videos that week But it'll be trucking related. I mean Matt's will be fun. I'll be there for a day Check that all out but Donald says Theo's day is more important than the other. Absolutely. I wouldn't miss his birthday It was a big opportunity I Had to pass up. I didn't have to pass up on it because we're still getting use of Matt's is from Thursday to Sunday I believe Thursday to Saturday. I think so it's the it's the 21st 22nd 23rd, right and my son's birthday is on the 22nd Right in the middle, so it's right on the same weekend and my son He's more important. I will be there for that, but I am gonna sneak in on Thursday To Matt's there and check things out. I have my schedule booked though already like I said so Go down below find my Facebook especially on X. I'm trying to get more active on X Instagram as well. Instagram is more so I just post my thumbnails there mostly but So next week will be busy and should be fun, but I can't talk about all of it yet. It's a secret So Let's get out of my truck here Gonna give away where I'm at shoot.  So Look at my new tarps You see them brand new tarps I brought I bought them from my tea mighty products my tea EEE products I got those are my two end tarps on top there the one on the very top I haven't opened yet still in the original packaging. That's my center tarp For all three was eight hundred and eight dollars us not bad not bad because I've seen a lot I've seen double that more than double that in some places.  Careful I better not get into a rant here every day every single day. I get scammer calls every day So annoying a block one number the call from a different number Every single time and they got they they they change the phone number They're calling from to be a local number from back in Steinbeck where I'm from right? So it looks like someone from my local area is calling me. I'm like, oh, who could this be? Scammer it three time anyways Well the same case I got the eight foot flap on the front of my and the antarpe Really like them I've used them twice now already Awesome so eight hundred and eight dollars us from mighty products comm I'm not sponsored by them or anything, but I believe they deserve a shout-out because Their products are awesome. They're very mighty mighty products myteeproducts.com it was a Little bit of shipping is those eight hundred and eight dollars us plus shipping and Then I shipped them up to me And I've been using them this week. I have my two end tarps here yet My old ones just in case I have them with me on this week Just in case those were the wrong ones because I hadn't opened them yet Just in case they had sent me the wrong ones. I wanted to have Great ones, but now I can return those those are going back. I am But well, they're going to garbage. Let's be honest Can I flip this around is that possible? How do I flip this around I am so like Okay, here we go. Sorry guys. I'm not a live streamer. I'm a vlogger. I don't live streams very often These are my old ones just they're more patch than tarp see I'm pretty sure these are gonna be going to garbage But these were actual rentals Those ones up there Those are mine I've never owned my own tarps before I've always just rented And also in regards to my truck another update on this. I know it's dirty again. Go figure. Thanks guys I'm so glad to thank you guys so much. You guys don't have to do that, but I appreciate that really Read the comments. That's the best thing about live stream. I don't know it says. Yeah, I Do go through all the comments. I don't always see them when I'm on live like this because they go by so quickly, but That's awesome Keith What's my thoughts on true dough? Not safe for YouTube.  That's my thoughts on him So we won't talk about him though. My frame here Needs to be replaced Did I just say replaced My my frame needs to be redone I Talked to my shop about it and I told them that I told them take a look at it. Take a good look at it From my cab back here All the way to the end All the paint has been worn off. There's no paint left on it So I want to take a look at it. It's getting rusty and they said yeah, we're gonna need to get this done within the next year So I got a big job coming up later this summer or fall. It's gonna be very expensive But without a frame, I don't have a truck and without a truck. I don't have any money coming in so It's cheaper than buying a new truck a lot cheaper. So we're gonna redo the frame. They're taking everything off of here Everything when they're doing it right so it's gonna be expensive, but they're gonna get it done right They're taking the fifth wheel right off the whole plate taking that right off It's probably hard to see in here I'll flip you guys around So yeah, they're taking the fifth wheel right off there.  I mean I was thinking of painting it black But my friend Moses yesterday you guys know He was talking to me about and showing me some pictures of trucks that they run and they have blue frames My worry was that it would be too much blue the trucks already blue and if I have a blue frame I thought that that would maybe be too much Yeah, we'll stand a little further away so you can see There you go. There it is. I thought it'd be too much blue on blue, but you know, it actually looks pretty good So I think I'm gonna paint it blue it makes it a little bit more unique and a little bit more of a custom look I'm also stretching it a little bit now I have to be very careful when I do this and I have to get my measurements right because in Canada We have length measurements like limits Overall from the front bumper of my bumper there to the back bumper of my trailer cannot be more than 23 meters That is seventy five point six feet Right now. I'm sitting at about seventy three feet so I have About two feet of space now what I could do is move my fifth wheel forward a little bit See once I have more space between my cab and my fifth wheel once that's stretched out I can move my fifth wheel forward another foot Now I have three feet available in my twenty three meters The maximum wheelbase I can have on my truck in Canada is seven point two meters It used to be six point two and in Quebec it is still six point two But I have to get a special extended wheelbase permit to have more than six point two Seven point two meters is two hundred and eighty four inches That's the maximum wheelbase, but I have to stay within the twenty three meters or seventy five and a half feet Overall, I'm wondering though If I stretch her out and I bring her out to like seventy eight feet and I have a blanket over length permit Everywhere I go with that count That'd be okay Usually like we have blanket over length permits across the prairies at least in Manitoba. We do we can be up to a hundred feet And I think anything under eighty feet. I don't even need to put signs on it So if I go all the way up to eighty feet and I just get over length permits everywhere. I go wonder if that would work But to keep it simple, I want to just stay below my seventy five point six feet and So my wheelbase will be stretched out to about Anywhere's between we got to do all the measurements, right? We have to We have to make sure we get this right because I don't want to screw this up This is very expensive and if I come out and I'm over length well Now I'm buying expensive permits all the time everywhere I go and I don't want that So We're at two hundred forty four inches right now on this wheelbase six point two meters So If I put another twenty four inches on it two feet, I'll bring us up to two sixty eight We could round that up to two seventy easily at two seventy. I know I can still be legal very easily But I want to go longer. I want a longer wheelbase than that I don't want just I wanted I wanted to eighty. I wanted the whole thing. I want the whole seven point two meters I'm greedy. I want to take it all 284 inches but I'd have to pull a forty eight foot trailer then if I had forty eight foot trailers to pull Seven point two meters two hundred eighty four inches would be no problem everywhere. I go just to go back I'd have to buy a special extended wheelbase permit because You can get those you can get those But we don't haul forty eight foot trailers We haul fifty three foot trailers and I don't want to limit myself If I do stretch it out that much well now I can only pull forty eight foot trailers and a lot of shippers won't load you on a forty eight a lot of shippers Want a fifty three foot? And even if you just avoid those shippers it's still that limits the amount of freight and loads I can pull Because I want to I want to have all my options open so we pull fifty threes. I don't own the trailer We do a lot of drop-and-hooks so it's it's tough to own my own trailer. Otherwise, I just buy my own That's an option I can talk to them at the office about But I know what they're gonna say we do a lot of drop-and-hooks. They don't want us owning our own trailers It's just easier to Work with the fifty threes that we have now now you got to remember that when I stretch it out in Quebec and Ontario My wheelbase between my truck and my trailer Gets limited as well Meter wheelbase or to full 284 inch wheelbase I still can't go over my 75 and a half feet over like my overall length and Also my wheelbase limits between my drives and my trailer go down If I'd have a full seven point two meter wheelbase I could only be eleven point eight seven meters or thirty eight feet approximately From my drives to the center of my trailer axles this trailer the axles are so far forward like there's they're set so far forward Let me turn you around again. I didn't turn you around. I just turned around. There we go See the wheels are so far forward on these trailers that I would be legal if it was a 48 foot So what I'm trying to say is I think you guys get the point I have to be very careful about this to make sure we get it right So I'm thinking This is 244. I'm thinking we can stretch it out to 270 easily And still be legal with the 53s under legal limits So 270 would add both what 24 28 28 inches Right We got to be very precise because I want to get myself pretty much right up to the limit I'll be right at 75 and a half feet and when I inevitably get pulled in in Ontario eventually because they're gonna see oh look he's got a long wheelbase.  Go ahead measure me. I'm legal. Go ahead. I don't have to worry about being pulled in Also, I'm a public guy. I'm here on YouTube all the time and I do have DOT MOT that watch me. Hi guys Hi, it's nice. Nice to me. I know you're there You guys are good people, you know, it's just when you're in your uniform and at work that you know anyways So if I if I go ahead and make my rig like over length Without permits or anything as soon as they see me at the scale. Well, that's just puts a target on my back Right, and I don't want to do that.  I'll watch I'll wait Okay, I only want to do this once because you're wasting my time So I got to be careful so we'll see We shall see We can at least add Two feet maybe two and a half feet in here now the point of why I want to do this The cap will be in here. So this box will still be here. Everything will be clean and polished again. Hopefully Not about two feet in here. I can put an APU in there then And that is the whole reason why One of the whole reasons why Canada extended the allowable wheelbase this truck About 10 15 years ago. I forget when they changed it This was the maximum wheelbase you could have 6.2 meters 244 and that was the maximum no longer for any reason Unless you get permits, I guess across the country Recently within the last decade or so somewhere in there they changed it to add an extra meter Specifically for one of the main reasons was to free up space on the frame so that we could have environmentally friendly options Like an APU room for an APU because right now where would I put an APU? There's no room the other side's exactly the same Right? Exactly the same Stretch that out. We'll slap that in there And then I get the longer wheelbase that I want because Mostly for looks and for ride quality get my longer look looks better And I'm more Idling my engine. I have the fancy little APU which burns less fuel and pollutes our atmosphere more Less APU's pollute less, right? I don't know That's the whole point You said you modify the passenger stuff put an APU behind that. Yeah, I've seen stuff like that done I also have a friend of mine who Modified his fuel tanks. He cut part of the fuel tank out on one side and put the APU in there But then he's got a smaller fuel tank, right? You modify the steps to put it in there, but I want a longer wheelbase. I want to stretch it out Because I got to do the frame anyways either way everything is being pulled off this truck later this year hopefully Everything pulled right off Everything's gonna be sandblasted. Every bolt's gonna come out. They're gonna do it proper I'm gonna get it done at PBX They're my guys. They're the only guys who can touch this truck. They're the only ones that I that I let touch it So That'll be that And you know, I'm dreaming now But I'm thinking since they got to pull everything off the frame anyways, wouldn't it be a good time to do the front suspension? They got to pull it all off anyway I want to put an air ride front suspension on the front with a control in my cab so that I can when I park I can lower it down lower the bumper down to the ground. Okay. That's one of my uh, that's one of my Things I'm doing to this truck What if I just do it at the same time and I get the new frame get it stretched get the air ride in the front I know big dreams, right? We'll see We'll see what the bank says I can do right because that's that's what matters Nightmare canna. Hey Welcome to the membership. I'll have a video up later today. So I explain this at the beginning of this live That uh, I have a video uploading a little bit behind again because I've been super busy running around Getting the stuff delivered I'm gonna have that video uploaded tonight But I'm gonna release it onto youtube tomorrow at 4 p.m. Central time But members can watch it as soon as it's uploaded they uh, they have access to my whole library whether it's Unlisted or public they can see all the videos I have online And so once that goes up make sure your notifications are on so that you get notified when it goes live That'll be from last friday There is a mention of a beaver bitcoin in there again. So a little heads up I like the responses that we had last time. Uh, it's not a scam guys. Come on I wouldn't I wouldn't share a scam with you guys But if you're if you're not into that stuff, that's fine. That's fine the video, uh, doesn't take away from my video We got a few mentions that i'm coming up here yet. Uh, they're good guys I know bitcoin is uh, for some reason it's a controversial misunderstood thing It really is it's one of the most misunderstood things. I think that's going on right now And if you don't understand it, that's totally fine. It's it's it's something Something that you need to do your research into don't dive into it if you don't know everything there is to know about it It's It's volatile it goes up and down uh There's scammers out there obviously that use crypto Bitcoin's not crypto bitcoin and crypto are separate. They're different things, but they uh, they use You know cryptocurrencies and bitcoin to scam you because it's very hard to track And once it's gone once you give it away to somebody there's no getting it back There's no central bank to help you out There's no, uh, centralized authority to be like hey, you stole his bitcoin. No if you give it away It's gone. It's gone. You also can't lose the keys to your uh online wallet I would recommend that you all have hard wallets a hardware wallets like offline cold wallets Don't keep them online for long because you know, that's all vulnerable to hacking as well Once you have it in a cold storage like a tangent wallet or something Then uh, it's offline and and it can't be stolen that way, but Don't take financial advice from me. I'm not a financial advisor. Okay Don't don't listen to me for for your finances talk to a financial advisor but I'm gonna do a couple of runs Uh adries for Bitcoin coming up here in the future Because I want to tell you guys about them. That's where I get mine from and they're good guys They figured out they'd they figured they'd help out my channel a little bit. I appreciate that a lot and at the same time I'm uh, hopefully helping out someone some of you guys who are interested in that just like You know, I also work with uh with bolsternaut with house. I've done, uh Ad runs with pilot flying jay in the past chevron dello Who else have we worked with we boost those signal boosters in the past? I don't do a lot of promotions I don't do a lot of ads On purpose that's on purpose. It's not like I couldn't I could have a new sponsor every day to to read to you guys I don't want to do that Because first of all, I have very high Uh a very high bar for who I promote and what I promote on my channel because I don't want to promote anything to you that I wouldn't use myself and that I don't use myself So I get emails every day Every day from different companies because I have my email listed below my videos, right? So they email me wondering if we can work together They'd like to sponsor the channel or they'd like me to you talk about their new app or their new products or their clothing And I say no to 99% of them or just ignore 99% of them to be honest They probably think I'm rude, but I can't go answering every single email So I say no to all of them because uh, I'm very picky What I promote on here I don't want to just take people's money to Try and sell their stuff when it's something that I wouldn't even use I think that is uh That's something that I wouldn't want to do Because I've built up a community a family online here with you guys And I respect that I respect that you guys have a level of trust for me and I don't want to break that trust So I would never promote anything to you guys that knowingly that uh That would be a scam or that would Uh Not benefit you in some ways if you're into that. I mean if you're not into bitcoin, don't worry about it I'm not telling you you have to be You know like that you can always buy uh stocks and bonds too you can go buy that buy some shares in tesla You know with the way governments are going right now All pushing us towards this electrification. It's never going to happen But they're pushing us towards buying electric cars and california is leading the charge on that right? So even if you're against electric cars, you know that tesla's share is likely to go up again Don't take financial advice from me. I don't know but uh The shares like that if people are being forced to buy it It's a good chance. It'll probably go up I got a tractor coming up behind me here. I want to be in the live buddy. I'm just kidding. I won't put them in the live But uh, you could buy uh stocks and bonds into brick and mortar businesses too, but that's what you're comfortable with I don't give financial advice But one thing I can say from my own personal opinion is that the way our governments keep printing and printing and printing and printing and printing money The less and less and less it's worth. So if you have a hundred thousand dollars in your banks in savings In five years, like think about what you could buy with a hundred thousand dollars today Leave that hundred thousand dollars in your bank.  So I'm not a financial expert or anything But that's sort of just common sense right inflation. We all understand how that works We all understand how that works. So I would say like in my own personal opinion I want to start putting my savings and money into something that will protect the value of it more Stocks and bonds and stuff that I feel Uh and investments not just stocks and bonds but different investments Uh that will hold my money's value. So when like I don't have a hundred thousand dollars in the bank I wish I did that would be awesome. But let's say I was I had a hundred thousand dollars in the bank. Man, that'd be nice But if I did I would want to put that into something that in 20 years That'll still be worth at least the same a hundred thousand or more more would be awesome More imagine if you put a hundred thousand dollars away like imagine if you would have put a hundred thousand dollars into bitcoin 10 years ago It was selling for like 1400 dollars 10 years ago today Just a couple of days ago. We hit 99 thousand dollars per bitcoin 99 thousand dollars canadian so if I would have bought 10 years ago when everybody thought this was just a A uh a big waste of time if I would have bought like even just a thousand dollars worth at 1400 Imagine what that would be worth today Yeah Didn't do that. I have friends that did that. I have no people who did that I know people who bought in when it was at 400 dollars when bitcoin was a foreign at the beginning 1500 years ago Man, they're sitting pretty right now But you know, it's just my own personal My own personal views here though, uh, don't put your money anywhere That you don't trust 100 percent 100 percent. That's what I would say. Maybe talk to an advisor. I'm not an advisor That's not me. I'm a truck driver I can teach you about tying down loads and stuff and like securing freight and You know time management getting from point A to point B when it comes to your money I don't want anything to do with that.  Absolutely. It's all up to you buddy. You're the boss You want to go and start a youtube channel? The only one stopping you is you going to do it Beautiful day out beautiful day out some people are saying uranium gas oil You know gold is always a safe option to put your money in you know If I had a hundred thousand dollars just laying around just sitting and savings doing nothing Buying gold is always a safe option silver, you know precious metals Imagine buying a bar of gold like a hundred thousand dollars of gold But then you have a tangible asset You have a physical asset that you have to store you have to keep safe And if you go if you leave the country or if you move you have to take that with you It's the same thing with uh with bitcoin 2 except you you should store it on a cold wallet offline But then you have to keep that cold wallet with you everywhere you go, right? But at least it's not like a big brick of gold I don't know I don't know guys But I'm going to mention them in the next coming video there just so you so you know Real estate hi-ho says yeah real estate. That's a good place to invest and that's a I've I've invested in real estate That's how I've gotten ahead in life That's actually I should I should have mentioned that right off the top like again I'm not giving you financial advice But the way I got ahead financially in life and I met Brett in the way we've gotten ahead is through real estate It is really treated as well. I bought my first house off my sister. That was a trailer home in 2011 three years later. I sold it Uh made good money on I took that money. I put it into a better house Sat in that house for five years. Was it five or was it three years? I think the markets went up I sold it. Well, I met Brett and we wanted to buy a new house together That house also had concrete stamped concrete floors And we wanted a family and we couldn't imagine having a toddler running around on concrete floors That's just asking for a broken tooth a broken nose and a cracked skull So we thought that was a weird idea great great thought like it was stamped concrete It looked like hardwood kind of cool But it was concrete You don't want a kid running around on concrete and banging their head on so we sold that house Made profits on it didn't make too much of a profit on that. Well, we did come ahead and made profits We bought that house in the bush That ranch style house. Oh, I love that yard. We had 17 and a half acres We had a river running through our property. We had a swimming pond We had a oh, it was a beautiful property. We bought it low. There was a A woman I think they I think there was a split up or a divorce or something And they had to get rid of the house So it was at a really good deal and we jumped on it We we bought it and the yard needed a lot of work So we put a lot of effort invested into the yard made that better. I cleaned out that swimming hole made that better Uh We did some uh, we put a new roof on the house that metal roofing. What else did we do? Better done a bunch of work like that then uh But three and a half years after that we sold and we bought that tiny little house in Steinbeck. That was uh I was right around covid when covid first broke out And we still didn't know what was going on Uh They were telling us on tv that we're all going to die out of the apocalypse It's the end of the world and we didn't know what was happening. So we downsized And we took advantage of the market at the time because at that time all those restrictions were coming in And people in the cities wanted to get out of the cities They wanted to get into the countryside because uh, they're they're too restricted You know, you couldn't leave your house.  You couldn't see you're dying relative in the hospital It was a crazy time And mistakes were made obviously on a massive level But at the time people wanted to get out of the cities. They wanted to get to the country anybody with money Could do it So that was the market then our property value shot up We put it on the market. We sold it in a day made really good money on it Bought this tiny little house in town did a whole bunch of improvements on it Waited for the market to sort of settle down wait for us to settle down We had our son Theo and we wanted to expand So we took a look at what we could get And uh, we listed it at a price we thought was fair. We ended up getting Almost $20,000 above asking price. We had a bidding war with I think there was like six seven offers that came in We had a bidding war. We got 20,000 more uh over asking price, I think And uh, so we did really well there We put that money into our new house that we're in now And that's where we're at now like we're not rich But investing in real estate, you see how we how I built up started from a small little mobile home Little trailer home built up to the next house built up to the next one built up to the next one And finally ended up in this one. This is the one we wanted all along not this specific house But a forever house where we're never hopefully never going to move again So stepping stones using The real estate market to grow our money and grow our money until we could finally get into a house Because housing is so crazy right now It's hard to get into the housing market once you're in you're in the game Then you're good to go. It's just getting into it is tough, but that's how I did it um So that's that's one thing. I mean again, I'm not a financial advisor another disclaimer but that's that's a Usually a pretty safe bet by real estate that your money will at least Maintain its value you buy a house for like $300,000 In 10 years it should still be worth at least that Unless if something really bad happens, but there's risks in every part of life You can never invest in anything without some Level of risk some some have huge risks with huge rewards. Some have smaller risks with smaller rewards sometimes you just get lucky and Just win big. I'm still waiting for my lucky day, but I think we've been pretty fortunate and blessed that Uh We've we sort of managed and navigated our way through life to where we are now where now we can put our roots down We can have our family And our kids can grow up in a house that'll always be their childhood home Yeah but Don Shaw says bidding wars are the best if you're a seller. Yes. It was very good for us for the for the buyers of our house uh Well, they had to they had to fork out to beat the other because there was several uh, there was yeah Like what did I say six seven offers that came in and they were all above asking every single one was above asking price So we went with the highest bidder and also we not just that we went with the guy with the highest bid But also the guy with the least conditions A lot of these other guys, you know, they they uh, they send you in an offer looks really nice But oh it's got this this this and this condition condition of finance and condition of the sale of their house condition on this Condition on this and they're like, okay. What about the next guy? Oh He's giving us this price zero conditions. No conditions sign the paperwork done That's the one that's the one we'll take it It's yours. Here's the keys. I'll get my stuff out You say I can start an advising channel I'm not smart enough for that. I'm not smart enough I can share with you my life experiences and what worked for me, but I'm I'm I don't want to be responsible for other people's money Because if I tell you to go do something and you end up losing money, I would feel awful. I feel terrible So I don't want to be responsible for that. It's uh I can just tell you what worked for us You know at the same time though We got lucky because we put a bid in on our house that we're in now and we bid under asking price And we also had conditions we had conditions of financing which were satisfied right away That one wasn't a big one We got that done within a few days And then our other condition was that we would sell our other house The bank wouldn't let us have both houses at the same time We tried because we wanted to keep that small house as a rental So we went to the bank. We said hey, we don't want to sell this house. We just want to buy this house Here's the money for a down payment. What do you think? And the bank was Not a good idea trucker josh, but Fine, you're the one with the money. So I guess we'll play your way and do it your way So they didn't want us to have both properties So we uh, we had to sell the other property before they would give us the mortgage for this New new house So that was a condition that we had so we came in we offered not too far Just a little like a few thousand below asking like pretty much pretty much right there. We didn't low ball them uh, just a few down just uh Now that would pay for our fence pretty much Well now it's sort of paid for IVF, but it saved us a little bit of money And then we had those conditions and they accepted that and we were able to satisfy those conditions in the allotted time Because we had an amazing real estate agent if you're in the steinback area We went through uh Why can't I think of her name now? Oh, I was just gonna give her this awesome shout out Boulanger Emma Emma Boulanger. Is it Boulanger or is it Boulanger? I think it's the french last name.  She sold it in under 24 hours We put it on the market the next day. We had uh Six seven showings I think they all put in an offer all above asking and we sold it that day Within 24 hours within 48 hours all of the paperwork. Everything was finalized done so, uh We had an amazing real estate agent. I would highly recommend her Emma at uh at coldwell banker In steinback. She she did Amazing for us twice now twice. She's got a like a great track record with us but anyways We went on a little bit of a rabbit trail there of uh Of money. I I'm not very smart. I'll tell you guys that I don't think I'm this big guru or this big smart guy I'm a pretty average dude uh I know what I do very well. I'm confident in like trucking securing loads This all I'm confident. I know what I'm doing here But when it comes to other things in life like other people are a lot smarter than me in these things, so always Always be careful. Am I gonna be late for my next appointment? Nope. I have all day to get there But I should get going though. I should get going. Yeah evening from the uk. Hey, Greg I will go through all of your comments yet. I've missed some of them Uh Erics is interest rates the way they are good call. Yeah, that's another thing Uh interest rates right now are pretty crazy and they they're probably gonna go up still since covet and uh since then like it's not just covet like I'm talking about canada and the us since they printed so much money through covet to get us through that That was their solution to it What's done is done that you can't undo that very easily So all of that money was printed and there was no goods To support it. There's nothing. It's just new money that they just threw out there to the people And since then you would think that we would kind of hold back and be a little bit more conservative with our money Since we just printed all this money. Let's get that money back out of circulation first. Oh, no No, we move from one crisis right to the next crisis. There's a war in eastern europe.  I understand we want to support Uh friends and stuff. We don't really have the money to do it, but It's a crisis right and what do you do in a crisis? See I'm not making these decisions.  So now we had two crises back to back Oh, and then there's a middle eastern war that starts up on october 7th And then that launches off and then we start sending money over there and again, it's a crisis and we want to support our friends and I don't want to get into that here. That's a hot topic that one. Okay. Let's let's not derail this with that My point is that there's been crisis after crisis after crisis and they keep printing and printing and printing money It scares me So I think interest rates will have to go up They have to because the only way you can get money out of circulation and back into the central bank is by raising interest rates You have to raise that interest rate because what what is an interest rate? It's a tax that the government gives you for a loan, right? That takes money that's in circulation right now and it takes it out of circulation and they don't put it in a vault somewhere They take it and it goes poof It disappears because it never existed in the first place It was never there in the first place, but they have to get it out of the public circulation So that the value of the dollar Is it stay stable? You know what I mean? Because if there's too much out there inflation goes You got to take some of it out of there so they inflate. This is all above my head. I understand the basics of it but uh Interest rates. Yeah, like Eric was saying here I expect that the interest rates will continue to rise until we stop having these crises that we have to Print money for We have to be more conservative with our spending that I'm a conservative guy So obviously I'm I'm biased and we don't have conservatives running the western world right now. We have people who like to Print money running the world right now. So eventually someone's gonna have to get into power who's going to Reduce national debts Like our neighbors here in the u.s. God bless them the amazing people I'm worried about their national debt It's crazy to think They're they're a great friend of ours And it is no different. We're just on a smaller scale. We've got a lot of national debt That's a topic for a whole different video and a whole different channel. I think right That's crazy Craig brown drosh for president I don't think that's a job. I could ever do Well, I know it's a job. I can never do. I'm not qualified unlike the current leader of canada. I can admit I am not qualified for that position for prime minister I am humble enough to acknowledge that fact I wouldn't mind like uh Knowing more first of all, I don't think I can be prime minister because I don't speak french I'm not fluent in french So, uh, there's that But Even if I even if I would look I haven't spent my whole life Uh Learning about this stuff Like you look at the leader of the opposition right now in canada. I'm a big fan of his like pierre polyus Meters came to the left on CR three and then turn right in 16 meters what Karen is not a fan of pierre polyus obviously interrupted me as soon as I mentioned his name Hissing over there I'm a fan. He is like he's down to earth. He grew up in like a normal Normal middle-class household. He didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth He understands the struggles of paying your your electricity bills and your your grocery bills more so Then the other guy He he speaks In ways you can understand and he's smart.  I'll leave it to them Leave it to them in Ottawa to take care of things. I'll sort of throw my support behind the guy that I like the best But as for me leading the country, I'm not qualified.  Yeah, maybe she's just sort of like trying to Trying to throw me off so that we don't get into politics. I don't I don't want to do that on my channel I'm not going to shy back from where my views are, but I'm not a political talk channel I don't want to get into that. It's very divisive for one And I want everyone to feel welcome here Though I may be a supporter of of pierre and I may be a conservative member I don't want anyone from the other parties to feel uncomfortable here on my channel I want everybody here to be able to come here and know that they're not going to be preached to about How their politics are wrong in my view That's not who I am I can share with you my views because we live in a free country. We live free Free country mostly free country where we can share our views and we don't have to hate each other for it I think that one thing that's lacking in our world a lot is Communication people don't talk to each other anymore They just yell at each other on the internet You don't have people who are like strong Liberal members just talking with people who are strong conservative members anymore. They don't just sit down and talk And learn from each other find common ground But agree to disagree on other things I was watching this interview I don't know what you guys think of tucker carlson. I know he's like uh, uh that that that In some circles, but this is exactly what i'm talking about people don't talk to each other anymore He recently interviewed uh, chris kwomo and they're both opposing views right chris kwomo and tucker carlson They're opposing views But what I like to see was that two men of radically opposing views different views could sit down and have an adult mature about stuff And not hate each other Not throw insults at each other not throw mud at each other not tear each other down not call each other names That's one thing that we've really been missing We've sort of gotten into our own echo chambers and uh Stayed there and we just sort of view the other side is just evil. They're not evil Not evil We can debate on whether or not they're misled they could be misled, but they're They're fellow people. They're fellow citizens. They're Normal people who maybe just see things in a different way But that's all I'll I'll stop it there I'll stop there. I think we should just Be able to talk a little bit more I need to get going though. Uh, this live stream has gone on long enough. Thank you guys for joining me I've got to get going because I need to Yep, my time's up right now.  It's gonna be exciting So hit that bell 169 of you in here all the way to the end of the video. Thanks for listening to me babble Again, don't take my advice on anything research stuff yourself and I will uh See you guys later. I'm sorry. I wasn't able to respond to all of your comments here. I appreciate all of your input though Uh, there'll be a video live on my channel. Uh tomorrow 4 p.m. Central time I'll talk to you then


So thank you everybody for coming. In case it's not obvious, I am not Laura. Laura is this lady here. So I am now in the anti-harassment team. Laura prepared the presentation and then she found out that she couldn't attend. So she has recorded a video for you to watch. And then she listed something that she would like people discussing. And the video is only 12 minutes, so let's just start. Tell me if you can listen it. Yeah, we have to output the audio too. Team. And one of the teams that I am contributing to is the anti-harassment team since about one year ago. 2015. Okay, let's go. Hello, my name is Laura Arjona. I am a non-applauding development developer since 2015. And one of the teams that I am contributing to is the anti-harassment team since about one year ago. I couldn't come to that conf, but it was very interested in this both to happen. So I'm very thankful to Anna and to all the people that made it possible and to all of you that are attending and I hope participating. I'm living in the Gobi document, a link to this test script. For the case, it's shown too small in the screen. And a link to the slides too. In this presentation, I will explain a bit what is the anti-harassment team or at least my understanding of it. I'll try to summarize the last year working in the team and some challenges that we face inside the team and in Debian in general, in order to improve the current status of things. So what is the Debian anti-harassment team? You can visit our wiki page to learn about it. I will open now here. We are a point of contact for not only people seeing or being victims of abuse, but also for any community member concerned of creating a more welcoming and respectful environment in Debian. The main documents that we use for reference and we recommend everybody to know about them are the Debian diversity statement approved in 2012. The Debian Code of Conduct approved in 2014. And the Debian Code of Conduct introduced in 2014 if I am not mistaken. In May 2016, some people noticed that the anti-harassment team could be unresponsive because some of the members were retired of Debian or in Hiatus for reasons. And there was a call about this and the team was relaunched with some new people, me among them. So you can see the current composition of the team in the web page in our website about the organization in Debian. And it's also written in our wiki page here. And this is the current composition of the team, Bati Langasek, Margarita Manterola, Laura Arjona-Rena, which is me, and Neil McGovern. What do we do or how do we act? Usually we received a report of a bad behavior of somebody or a violation of the Code of Conduct. We acknowledge the receipt. We offer listening and a friendly word from the community by mail or IRC to the victim or to the reporter. We gather information about the issue and if there is possible mediation, we talk to the offender and offer it. Or we contact the offender and explain the behavior that is wrong, how can they improve the situation, our proposal, and offer help or support in making things better. We try to understand and respect everybody's feelings. We focus on the bad behavior and the type of the community Debian wants to be. And then we iterate and finally close or escalate. We try to keep the reporter informed about the process. And about our tools, apart from the reference documents that I already mentioned, we don't have much other resources to help ourselves handle the different issues that come to our inboxes. We have reviewed the Wiki page which included some links to further info and resources. And we have added some more at the top of the further info section. Here, these are the new links. If you know any other documents that can help the team members or any Debian contributor to promote a more welcoming environment or to deal with conflicts or misbehavior, please send it to the mail alias and we'll consider adding it to the Wiki page. But note that if we end this, with a long list of links, the Wiki page may become less useful. So, helping creating that section, selecting the most adequate and updated links is also welcome. Finally, the own activity of the team helps ourselves to learn from experience for the good and for the bad. And when a new issue arises in some cases, we can reuse some parts of former communications in order to act quicker. And in every case, we can also try better than the last time. Note that for the good or for the bad, we or at least me don't keep history of the activity of the team. Before May 2016. So now I'll try to produce a kind of activity report of our last year. I have counted about 40 threats or conversations since July 2016 until today. A short summary of the topics. We have dealt with some issues that we have dealt with seven issues. Three of them are still ongoing. Four issues about behavior in the backtracking system. One issue about content in Planet Debian. And two serious issues about behavior of Debian contributors towards people. Only these seven proper issues mean about one issue each two months average. This is in my experience a pace of almost nonstop because some issues take months to get them handled and closed. And we have more requests in between as I explain now. We had three more messages informing about potential issues that didn't go further fortunately. We had six messages with removal requests from the mailing list archives. One of them was spamming as an act of harassment and that was the only one that could be tackled by us and the messages removed as spam after some time. The others were answered or redirected to listmasters but no actual action was taken. We had two trolling messages ignored but they motivated. We had four requests from Debian project leader, Debian account managers or depth committee about issues or people to ongoing because of the ongoing issues. Some more non-span mails, some of them was answered some other got buried in our inboxes for example a request of interview about enforcing a code of conduct how does it work in practice. We didn't answer. And finally some more internal communication about five tasks that are still pending updating the wiki page which is partially down as I explained before creating a GBGK it was proposed but undone yet about a report to the DPL or to the project we started on January couldn't be delivered due to lack of team feedback it's being partially down today a task about renewing the depth code of conduct it was proposed by several Debian contributors I sent a second proposal after working on it there was consensus in there is more work needed together with the depth com team and here we are and finally communication about enlarging the team or renewing some members that are not active so everything gets done and we have some rotation for our own mental health and that's all from the report or for my part now I propose some topics for discussion here throw some ideas but it's not mandatory to discuss about them if there are other topics of more interest of the audience one idea for discuss is the name of the team anti-harassment puts some people in defensive mode I'd like a name in the positive side making people feel that we care about the health of the community about respect, about inclusiveness we can do some brainstorming in the Gobi I'll add my bad proposals there too another topic for discussion can be how to strengthen the team enlarge it, new members, rotation also because issues are hard and disgusting most of the time are there any volunteers who decides who is in the team last time was the DPL some people volunteered and the DPL accepted them probably after today the team is more known and the number of reported cases will rise we are a big community and even 2% of people suffering harassment is a lot of people and a lot of issues for a small team can we maybe tackle this at team level some kind of moderator roles in each team another topic for discussion is that we are slow we try to breathe deeply, measure our words be kind, coordinate an answer inside of the team we have few experience some of us are not English native speakers so everything takes time some iterations take a week or more if there is a peak of other work or life stuff delays increase and people suffer it's sad another possible topic for discussion is delegation or not delegation currently we are a consultive body some people understand anti harassment as moderators and de escalators some others feel that anti harassment will need more powers to enforce themselves the code of conduct and decide in serious issues currently we gather information, try to mediate if possible and produce a report or proposal as I explained before not else, nothing else how to report our activity to the project the format of the reports I don't know if what I said makes sense for you resonates or it's kind of vague the level of detail where to report Debian project mailing list is public for example when, once a year, when something happens after closing any issue I don't know and that's all I think from my part thanks for attending and I hope you can discuss and I will try to follow closely the stream, the gobby and the IRC now it's your turn thank you very much and hugs and kisses for everybody bye bye so this was the report from Laura we have a few things now in gobby that we are going to start discussing but we also have Margaria who is also part of the team so I would like to ask you if you want to ask something to watch whatever she has said test, yes so I think Laura made a great summary and I agree with the points of discussion for me the main thing that I would like to discuss it's the name which was the first item in her list but it's the last on gobby whatever, I really think that being called anti-harassment is detrimental to the team because when we write to someone saying we are the anti-harassment team like the person is like oh I'm being accused of being a harasser and like it doesn't lead to good results so it would be really nice to have a more positive name that leads to like we are trying to create an inclusive community and yeah and the other issues are also interesting to discuss but I'm interested in hearing what people have to say so the main thing is the last point for our reason when ordering the item for discussion we reached the conclusion that is you know like the thing that it's more like to have some back-up by sharing you know plenty of proposals and so on so we decided to lead that for the last item because the worst case scenario is something that can be discussed later by making this or whatever so the first point as Laura has explained is the anti-harassment team right now is not a delegated team I would like to hear your thoughts about if it should be a delegating or not which power the team should have because right now something important is that the team has absolutely no power they only have let's say the obligation of reading the people who are mailing them and trying to help them but absolutely no power so about the delegation I think it's quite important that it's a team that gets a delegation but I don't see that it absolutely needs to have specific powers so it's kind of yes but no but I think it would be really nice to have a delegation because it lays down it also brings credibility to the team by being at the receiving end of a delegation but I don't always think it needs additional powers I mean when a problem arises you either make sure the person leaves or you find for example on the lists to enforce it if they do so you don't need that power at the NT harassment team I mean I possibly do agree with you but the counter to that is to say that there's no point having a team which does a lot of work comes up with a solution and then finds out after the fact potentially that another team in Debian doesn't want to enforce what was the decided solution so that's the risk there if there's some point there's a need of power let's talk about it as far as Dam is concerned there is space for discussion I won't go into detail now because I'm burnt out at the moment but I recall there's been conversation but I don't remember the details the only thing I remember is that there is space for working something out what about powers to the team does somebody have an opinion what actually should be the actual powers of the team it's more a question to Marga what are the powers that you would need to promote the diversity we want and protect the victims because I've kind of failed to answer that question myself maybe because I'm not in the position but yeah what are the powers you would need when it comes to people who feels that they're being harassed by victims in these situations it's very important for them to know that there is immediate recourse and after that there can be further discussion periods because when you allow somebody who is positioned as a harasser to maintain a presence and active contribution to a project what you're saying is that that person's potential value is more important than creating a safe space or comfort for the people present and involved in the community at large the other thing that's big with that is it's really easy for people to report incidences I've heard the phrase use incident reporting a lot rather than harassment reporting because it kind of softens the conversation but when you're having this theoretical maybe something will happen in the future it doesn't all the time and I bet a lot of us can think of a case where we've seen something in the news perhaps with a cop shooting someone where they say there's an investigation and that's the end of the story so right when we are discussing the powers I think there's also a question of what our scope is which is very unclear so we are the anti harassment team so we are supposed to receive complaints regarding harassment it's not that those are non but they are very few we have many more complaints about violations of the code of conduct that don't don't fall under the typical definition of harassment right that we have a code of conduct and sometimes people make mistakes and they violate the code of conduct and so we get this thing so for example it's not mean to someone else on a bug is that really our scope or is it not it's not clear we get the reports we try to mediate we try we do our best into like creating an inclusive community but it isn't really clear whether this is our scope or not so we are always in a constant struggle of are we really supposed to be the people doing this work or not because it's not that someone is being sexually harassed where you can really say okay this is the anti harassment team responsibility it's someone making awful comments on a bug if I'm talking too much just anybody tell me to stop so a pretty common take on groups that are doing like anti harassment work or like definitions of harassment in communities is usually around not just like you know the example of sexual harassment but harassment in general and like that's being taken in a broader and broader definition these days so racist comments in addition to sexist comments in addition to like things like being mean or making someone feel uncomfortable because of a discriminatory practice which usually looks like picking at someone based on skill level or demographic like identity so when that happens and like with incident reporting teams kind of the assumption is the first thing is just talk to the person and say hey like this is this thing that happened this is how you made someone feel uncomfortable you know there's a lot of nuance like you're never supposed to say who the person was who said they were feeling uncomfortable like there's negotiation in that I guess as a practical example do you think that do you think that this team should be able to decide for example that given some examples of someone whose behavior on the list seems to be completely inappropriate do you think this team should have the power to say that person is banned or should it be merely that you say we're going to send this as a dossier to the listmasters I mean what's your opinion of the purpose I'm not sure why we are focusing so much on my opinion because but the point of the both was to listen to your opinion as a community rather than our opinion as a team to be able to get input from the community so I'd rather listen to the answer from other people and not from me the importance I think of hearing your opinion is that having dealt with these cases for example Laura presented that in one case you were able to remove a message and in other cases you were not because listmasters didn't agree and I think that as a data point is important you the scope of this team is not defined because it implies everything because it could imply if somebody today wanted to upload a hot baby back into the archive well anti harassment would probably step in anti harassment or whatever this is renamed to so yeah the scope is way too broad but because the problem is transversal to all of the interaction areas we have even as technical as they can be or as social as they can be I want to make a comment before you continue anti harassment team they are only for people they cannot check everything so when you say that something like hot baby will happen they will step in always think that even if you are expecting them to read emails in communicating them things of course hot baby would draw somebody in the bad way who would feel attacked and would file a complaint on that the example was good this user never never please expect the anti harassment is going to be reading everything and they are going to please always contact them and have them to to take action I think one interesting idea is that the listmasters delegation could be reduced to like them being only the technical thing and delegating every anti harassment question to the anti harassment team if it was sufficiently staff etc but saying any exclusion from a list should go through anti harassment and whatever decision would be binding and the listmaster are just the technical executants and don't take these decisions ever the problem now is that anti harassment does part of the job and says this master look you should really do that but you can you are entitled to your own opinion without having all the dust in terms of executive power I think it correlates with responsibility so in Debian we have the listmasters responsible for main list webmasters responsible for web pages the FTP master responsible for packages and Debian account manager responsible for membership so if anti harassment decides that somebody shouldn't be a Debian member it's actually the Debian account manager responsibility to make that call glad to listen but if I remove a person because anti harassment told me so but I feel like I shouldn't then I am the person responsible for membership so probably it's my call and not anti harassment but this then brings up the question what is the responsibility of anti harassment if the responsibility if making it so that Debian is a safe space that is a huge responsibility and it should come with huge powers reverse Spider-Man problem so if the responsibility is a participation role or making sure that no complaints will be unheard there was a good point of safety is a shared responsibility it's not just anti harassment that keeps Debian safe it's the whole of Debian and anti harassment is to make sure that no complain will be unheard if it hasn't been taken care locally in which case the responsibility is shared there could be the final collectors of things that would have fallen through the cracks to be forwarded to the others if the least masters are not acting on anti harassment because they don't have time that is a red flag so I've seen it on a broader discussion of what are scopes and responsibilities and how to make them reasonable and actionable both in terms of expectations and in terms of powers okay so I think that there is one problem of having this decision making because well then it could be very difficult to enforce any kind of action and you might have to justify to every team like first to justify to anti harassment or team that makes a recommendation then you have to justify it again to another team I think that can be problematic for the people affected the victims we're having discussions and I think I agree with the idea that I think anti harassment and down there they should somehow work together or maybe have anti harassment have some more protection or support role but I definitely think that some team needs a delegation with tools to enforce sanctions when they are needed and to act in the protection of our members I think as a project we have failed for too long to protect our members properly and I think we need to do something about that so I wanted to say one thing about as my own opinion I also wanted to mention that further up on the GABI document Laura gave her opinion and those of us who were focusing on the in person conversation may not have noticed I didn't at first she I think liked the idea of balancing the powers across the different teams and said that there's always a dam and the DPL if necessary but if you want to read what she said I'll speak for her when I can't read it on the screen right now my point was going to be that the impact of a communication from a team with a set of enforcement powers versus a team without a set of enforcement powers feels different to the person on the other side of the conversation and I am not actually advocating one answer or the other answer I'm just and at least not with this point I'm just saying that so similarly if you're talking to a manager or an HR department at a job human resources it's a very different conversation than if you're talking to a peer or a support group in a safe space so we should consider what type of reaction we're looking to get and what type of powers would make that better or harder as one of the factors we consider I think I mean I put this idea on the GABI but I'd like to hear your reactions to this maybe a way to get out of this well where's the limit of the power of whom it could be to change the composition or change to make the anti harassment team be of one person out of each key team I mean if one of them and one of least masters and one of the committee they become the anti harassment team maybe aided by others I don't know just think this could solve the issue of what power do you have to take this decision that belongs to another sphere okay thank you everybody for your opinion let's talk a bit about the second point in the path how to report activity to the project because anti harassment they have been doing their job silently for a couple of years at least now so far Laura has done now the field reporting that has been done so far when things are not reported people think that either they are working a lot or they are doing nothing so which level of reporting do you think they should go reporting a lot reporting periodically reporting as it goes I think in my opinion not much reporting will be needed because there is not much you can share but probably making sure that everybody knows that anti harassment is there and that can be reached I think will be very useful probably agree with you but I guess having some reporting is useful just to show it exists but that could be like once a year to say we have dealt with some incidents and just post a summary as the kind of summary that is given here I don't think monthly or weekly reports would be helpful if nobody else has that if it is to make visible that anti harassment team exists then bits from the anti harassment team with some report and some suggestions on things did you know if you are uncomfortable in Debian it sounds like a joke I mean it sounds like a joke okay we have lighted minutes left so we are going to deploy everybody who wants to go that is the name of the team so how do you think the team should be named please give you silly ideas well I think first you will need to define the scope to be able to find a name it's not enough it's worth having this discussion so I agree with that this is just the tour project is going through this a little bit and they have a team called the community council and I think their scope is much wider they do deal with harassment but other issues and it's a team that has composed the five people and the project votes on who is on the team but I think that's a good name for a wide scope but I agree that the name is kind of connected to the scope question okay so let's go back to the point 3 one thought is that in the earlier the goals discussed in the earlier diversity round table line up a little bit with one of the points Laura made for this team namely fostering a welcome and inclusive culture within Debian separate from handling specific incidents and that is this if the scope does cover both points as opposed to just handling harassment then maybe a broader name like diversity and inclusion could be appropriate but that seems I don't think any I don't think I don't think anybody was envisioning the two things as the same team so that's a different question so Laura mentioned this during her presentation about the team she was suggesting that the current pace of the team is a lot of work to handle for the people who are currently active and question that she put is how it started the team so far last year when the team was let's say that nobody was active I called for her and Laura stepping but she has been wondering how to get more volunteers and how to make sure that the volunteers are people who should be able to handle with this because nobody knows how to handle with this and I personally going to ask another question do you think that the anti harassment team should have somebody who is totally external to the community but trying to handle this kind of thing for helping them can you clarify what you mean by that because if they're working on this they kind of become part of the community so do you mean someone who intentionally to try and choose someone who doesn't know about Debian or what do you mean there is this idea that have been floating around not related to this team that there are plenty of things that Debian contributed or like doing for example accounting so this idea of paying for you know keeping keeping the account keeping the money of the project I think not a lot of people want to do anti harassment related things because not only anti harassment there are related things who are also doing this kind of job it's not a fun one so I was wondering if we should get paid and get somebody who is paid to do this for helping specializing in handling this kind of issues I think it might be hard to get it's harder to get people to respect the decisions if it's someone who's from outside the project I would have guessed but it's hard to say for me okay so somebody wants to do a proposition about so if people from outside is of interest I do have one idea that might be helpful to the team would the team have an interest in someone who has dealt with harassment issues in some sort of specific area common to like a guest chat or something with the team to talk about their expertise to help the team learn from that is that something that you would want for me I was launching an idea if you think you have something that will help you should contact them I was just proposing okay I'll talk with the team my wife works at a domestic violence shelter so she's dealt specifically with harassment issues around that and I'm sure someone in her agency would be willing to do a one-time discussion just to give expertise and share it with the team like I was about to say something similar in money invested could be paying for training if there is a mediation facilitation that could be good for anti-arrestment and not just for anti-arrestment as far as I'm concerned yeah so yeah so anybody here feels like proposing a name and the powers that the team should have like even that we are ready to decide that everything should be in a lot maybe we can close the both with some proposition yeah community empowerment anti-arrestment yeah the thing is the anti-arrestment part maybe it's okay so we are going to leave it here if it happens that somebody this evening gets an idea about a name for the team you send them an email and thank you everybody for coming


Welcome to Object Class Explained. This episode was created in partnership with the SCP Declassified subreddit. For more Declassifications, check out their link in the description below. Today, we're going to go over one of the most requested Declassifications I've seen in a long time, SCP-343. Now, it isn't a very complex SCP, but it was requested, so we're going to go ahead and go over it regardless. So first off, what is SCP-343? Well, it's actually one of two things. It's either a very powerful reality bender or it's God. And there's very little chance it's anything in between. Though it is important to note that in the SCP universe, there's really very little substantive difference between the two.  So one important note, SCP-343 may claim to be the creator of the universe, but it really doesn't seem to claim any sort of religious leaning. So if it is God, it's not the Abrahamic one or any other ones. It's just, as it claims, the creator of the universe, if you believe it. Because here's the rub. SCP-343 is not really as kind or as benevolent as it appears. You might say, what do you mean? Well, there's a certain doctor who seems to be immune to the object's charm. Now, there's Dr. Beck, who is the guy that basically sets up the entirety of the containment and runs most of the experiments and he lets it have free reign throughout the site. But this other doctor, who's unnamed, thinks that it's possible the object is just using its abilities to manipulate people and specifically Dr. Beck into liking it. But this mysterious other doctor doesn't exist anymore. There's some files at the very end of the article that are corrupted and incomplete. And they seem to indicate that somehow this doctor was trying to tighten up containment on SCP-343. And as far as we can tell, it seems like SCP-343 disappeared this person. And I feel like most people seem to completely miss this point. I mean, when I first explained that last part to somebody else who had read it, they had completely missed the point because they had just skimmed over it and were like, well, there's nothing here. I think a lot of the characterization of SCP-343 both on and off the wiki fails to recognize that very, very sinister element. Now, the quality of the article itself is up for debate and trust me, there's a lot of debate on it, but SCP-343 is not a kind old man and it's not God either. It's something darker and powerful enough to be confused with God and if you don't let it have its way, well, you'll never have been born. Anyway, that's it. Like I said, it's not a very complex or very long SCP, so that means that this explanation isn't going to be very long either. But consider that request fulfilled. Thanks for watching.


Thank you so much, and thank you, Sam, for that wonderful report and this ongoing decades of service you do to the industry by maintaining and continuing to update that. Where is marketing headed? Now, this is a very dodgy thing to talk about, because the only thing which is certain is that things are going to move faster than I think. And probably different from what I think. That's the only guaranteed thing, but let me give it a bash. Let me start with the good. Sam kind of sounded a little pessimistic, but I think the first bit of the good news is this pie is going to keep growing, especially in India, and there's no doubt about it. It might shift from channel A to channel B, but we are an under-penetrated, an underserved, and an under-consuming country by almost all benchmarks. Now, so this pie is going to grow in the lifetime of just about everyone in this room. Technology is moving faster than you can imagine. People who've been around as long as I have and Sam has, when 90% of that spend was in cinema, know how fast technology has changed. The only thing which is certain about technology is it's going to change faster than anyone in this room thinks. And that's going to throw up huge opportunities to connect with the consumer. Risks, yes, but every new technology brings risks, but that's good news. For someone of our profession, the other great news, in my opinion, is brands are not going to become less important. They are going to become more important. Our lives, our consumers' lives are getting more and more complicated. I don't want to spend half an hour on an e-commerce webpage or in a modern-rate store or in a Kirana store deciding which shampoo I want to buy. Brands make that easy for me. So the value of brands are going to only increase with the clutter which is coming in life. And for the advertising profession, that's got to be good news because our fundamental job is to build brands. With the good comes the bad. I almost, in my first line out here, the first point wrote, advertising equals spam. But then I thought that given the audience I'm speaking to, that may not be politically correct to put it down on paper. But really, who here has not got irritated by WhatsApp business messages?  It's almost an irritant. In the old days, it was only about switching channels. And who hasn't done that? Who in this room has not in between cricket overs switched to the football game and then switched back? So it's, who has time? And that has changed so much. In fact, it's interesting. I mean, we're a week after the Super Bowl. Probably the only event left in the world where people say, I want to see the ads. Doesn't exist anywhere else. Trust. You going to build brands? You going to build a relationship? You got to build trust. Trust in our society, on the messages we see, is going one way only. And that's going to keep getting worse, not better. Fragmentation will keep increasing. Now, to be clear, there are two elements in my opinion about this fragmentation. One is the element which has existed when there were 300 cable channels. That was also fragmentation. I had much more complicated ways and metrics and numbers to reach and figure out. You know, life was easy when marketing was all about buy one spot on Sunday morning every week on Mahabharat. And I'm done. Right? However, there's a second part of the fragmentation which is going to get worse. When I used to watch TV or I used to read my newspaper, I used to watch that communication in a certain environment. It was the same environment whether I was watching Star TV, Sony TV, reading Anand Bazar Patrika or Times of India. Now, when I see it on my phone, I might be hanging on on the suburban train, different environment. I might be, like to be honest, I was doing, checking the cricket score on my phone in a meeting. Right? The environments are so different, the advertising has to take that environment into account. That is a second, very insidious form of fragmentation which will keep, keep occurring. And it's not as simple as saying, I used to make 30 seconders, now let me make five seconders. That is a challenge. Fundamentally, the power is now in the hands of the consumer. It used to be push. Now it is pull. I don't really want to listen to your message. I will access, for example, a decade ago when someone used to buy a fan, what did they do? They had the brand in mind, okay, Crumpton Good Brand. They would ask a neighbor or a friend who they knew had bought a fan recently. Finally, they go to the electrical shop, have a conversation and buy a fan. Today, more than 80% of the people who purchase a fan have gone through a shopper journey digitally on the net somewhere before they arrive at the shop to buy. They pull what they want. They need a fan. Yes, they may start a Google search words, take them somewhere, take them somewhere, but they pull it. The power is not with the brand owner anymore. It is with the consumer. The next slide is specially for Balki. What does not change in winning advertising? It does not matter what technology comes. It does not matter what algorithm you use. Two things don't change. They've been true since PNG made the first soap opera in the 1910s or 1920s. They are true today and they will continue to be true. Great winning marketing is rooted in the consumer and it is based on that great idea. I have often told my marketing folks that the number one ROI in marketing is great communication to the consumer. Of course, there's other stuff, but nothing works better than that. This does not change whether you're using AI, whether a 3D hologram is popping off my phone, whatever it may be. This, as marketers, must be changes. What I believe does change. You have to build trust. Ultimately, our most valuable consumers are our loyal consumers. This loyal consumer base will only continue to become more valuable. Brands are like people. You need a relationship you trust. That means you have to be authentic. You can't be seen as spam. You have to show up in a way and when the person wants you or needs you. The other thing which is happening is this whole idea of, and it's going to accelerate, I believe, a purpose. People now, more and more, look for something more. They like to associate themselves with celebrities, with brands, with things. Whose purpose they understand and whose purpose aligns with their purpose. Now, it doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree with a particular person's ideology or point of view, but as a brand, I must have that purpose. What do I stand for? What am I trying to do? What do I mean for you? Because people now start looking at that. And the fragmentation of social media and the ability and the creation of a two-way communication, where once we used to have a one-way communication, now gives voice to that purpose which people are looking for. And it blows up in your face within less than a minute now. So purpose becomes important in the whole idea of brand building and marketing. Finally, technology. Who knows where technology is going to go? Who knows where any of our jobs in this room will remain? But the reality is that this technological change is going to come. It's going to accelerate. Artificial intelligence is already happening today. In Crumpton, for example, and if we're doing it in Crumpton, I'm sure many, many more people are doing it, today it is absolutely important to have on-point fast response on social media, be it a Twitter, be it an Instagram, be it a LinkedIn. We used to try and do that manually. Now we have AI-generated responses, and we know that within 20 minutes any of them are answered on-point and back to the consumer. These tools are going to come more and more. Given this fragmentation, the last thing I'd like to say is I cannot agree more with Sam that there has to be a way to measure multiple media. When it was only simple TV and maybe a little print, you could do it separately. But now as you have multiple messages going in multiple times, when Sam was presenting, I was mentioning to Vikram, we spent a huge amount of money on e-commerce. But e-commerce is a little difficult to separate because one, you're spending money as a sales channel. But it is also the advertising location for a lot of people. A lot of people today don't necessarily go to Google to look for a brand, a product, and reviews. They go straight to Amazon. So this ability to measure across which Sam raised is going to become, I believe, a more and more critical thing for the industry. So with that, thank you very much. And the caveat is if none of this comes true, it's not my fault. OK? Take care. Thank you.