Right. We're starting this year off, right? Right. Right. Right. Am I right? One minute late, then yes. Oh Damn Well, I have to I for one have to say I am excited about the third year Year three, baby of DT NS Put in the three in D3 NS Justin was so just as less excited because he just got up and left. No now now all the now all the all the all the Frosch tech podcast are asking us to go get them beer. We're ah, yeah Hang it out outside the podcast store. Now. It's a little weird when we show up to the dorms All right, let's do this then shall we yep We go in a world where Technology changes faster than the human race can adapt There's only one place to turn The Daily Tech news show with Tom Merritt and guests But they need your help Go to Daily Tech news show dot com to find out how This in fact is the Daily Tech news for Monday January 4th 2016 That'll be the last day that I don't mess that up because I was thinking about it. I'm Tom Merritt joining me Veronica Belmont is on assignment at CES for somebody who pays her more, but Justin Robert Young is here How's it going? How about D3 NS? Yes here of Daily Tech news show I am honored to be here to kick it off and as we begin every year You can you can hear the the blunder bus sound as all the tech media converges on Las Vegas for CES. Yeah, the consumer electronics show is daunting and someone braver than I Always ventures into it every year our producer Jenny Josephson who is in Las Vegas right now Jenny What is the mood in Las Vegas? The mood in Las Vegas is euphoric as Jenny Josephson has made it to her hotel in time for the show That's amazing. So you flew in and checked into your hotel in normal time Yeah, and got out on the internet and everything and how that would working so so far I mean the only thing that matters about CES is is your internet working? Yes, exactly So we can report some of the most important things Hotels are checking people in in an orderly fashion and the internet is at least working We got more CES news coming as well as some New Year's resolutions. Let's start off with the headlines Oh By the way, the PlayStation Network is down, but don't panic by the time you hear this if you're listening to the podcast later It's probably gonna be back up ZD nuts, Mary Jo Foley notes that Microsoft VP of Windows and Devices Yusef Mady Posted that Windows 10 is now active on more than 200 million devices now that number includes the Xbox So that spins it a little bit 40% of those devices were activated after Black Friday with what they're calling 400% faster growth than a comparable period of time for Windows 8 adoption and 140% faster growth for Windows 7 that's comparing activations in Windows 10 terms because you didn't buy it to licenses sold for Windows 7 and Windows 8 so it's not exactly apples to apples 76% of enterprise customers are trying Windows 10 with more than 22 million Windows 10 devices in use in enterprise and education Customers so even with all those caveats, Justin. It's still pretty pretty impressive numbers. I think well Yeah, I mean obviously you have the little Xbox kicker in there to make it seem a little bit more impressive But really what these numbers are now and when they used to report this kind of adoption It was to say to signal hey look at how much we've sold right and even then it was a little bit fuzzy Based on the group licenses that they could sell to enterprise This is almost more of a developer's note, right? Look how many people are now on this version so people should be developing for the latest version of Windows Which for something that has always been a fractured ecosystem and and PC Users are often loathe to upgrade to a new operating system that is Good news and also shows that their hard work in putting a pop-up on your on your desktop every single time you boot up Paying off or something they got well And if you if you want to spin it in the negative sense You could say these are inflated numbers and they have they're having to work too hard to get just a normal amount of upgrades Because normally every upgrade increases its pace over the previous one if you're a Windows fan though You're gonna point to these and say this is a great 100% etc. I look at it man, and I honestly I'm not just saying this to be middle of the road This seems to be perfectly normal like it's not exceptional But for the the off-beat You know you've got your XP then you got your Vista then you got your seven then you got your eight for for the ten Beat this seems to be exactly what I would have expected sure the only thing I will say is that we are Assuming that you know that there's a reasoning to the fact that there is one down year one or not year but like one down one up of Windows operating systems that adoption has been a major problem for them And this was a huge change to make this a free upgrade as opposed to a paid license So I think showing results there is is is very important for them There'll be no more beats. It'll just be Windows 10 From Want to order an Oculus Rift Tom? Yes Starting Wednesday, January 6th at 11 a.m. Eastern. You can order one How much they won't say when will you get it? You ain't gonna find out yet Pricing and ship dates will come when the pre-orders open and Palmer lucky will answer some questions in a reddit a ma Wednesday at night at 9 p.m. Eastern Yes, I thought is that's that's when I'll do it. That's what the open parentheses is. It's also the nine key It's also. Oh, I didn't look that egg. Well, that was causing my typing causing Justin If you're gonna read the tea leaves on this one Tom, what do you think this bodes that they did not make their announcement? to also say the price and Ship date I don't know. I really don't know I feel like it's just going to be a really big price maybe and so they and they've they've said that they've said Look, this is gonna be an early adopter thing This is gonna be for hardcore gamers. They know the price is not gonna be there for everybody Most people's computers aren't even gonna run this thing You're gonna need to have a pretty pretty hefty machine to make good use of it So I think they're just trying to manage expectations to say look We don't want three days of people debating the price Let's just get the pre-orders going at the same time as the price so that you either order it or you don't It still seems weird. It is a little weird. What an announcement of an announcement, right? What you want to avoid is three days of think pieces that say is a $1,500 too much for an Oculus Rift. So why announce that it's coming? Why not just launch it on Wednesday and say hey, guess what pre-orders boom? That yeah, I mean because that's you're right. They're just delaying the think pieces by however by what two days You know as opposed to just releasing it. It is kind of weird Maybe there's other there's there's other elements to this like now It's in the hands of some journalists or it's in the hands of some people where it would be reported And so they just wanted to make sure that the pre-order date is the big news item now You're right There's two days of CES news coming where people will be writing about without any release date from Oculus now They can be like look we got a pre-order date So when you write your VR think piece the next two days you can say we're gonna have pre-order starting Wednesday Real quick. What's your guess? What's your guess on the price? 1200 yeah, I'm gonna say you're 1201 1202 What are you gonna say? I think I think 15 15 with Jenny you're gonna come down the middle all I want right now I don't I'm not gonna buy it obviously. I want to get one on my face. It's CES. This is a goal I know They'll never know they'll never be able to tell you all I want to do is experience the magic or the mystery or the Disappointment that is Oculus firsthand Lenovo unleashed a wave of new x1 models for CES 2016 according to ours Technica the 1299 think pad x1 That's $1,299 is a I'm sorry x1 carbon is a laptop that weighs just 2.6 pounds features up to 16 gigs of ram terabyte of NVMe solid-state storage skylight processor 52 watt battery and an optional y-gig wireless docking station There's also a $1,449 x1 yoga comes with the same RAM storage processor and docking options as the x1 plus As the x1 carbon plus an OLED touchscreen and active stylus it weighs 2.8 pounds The $899 think pad x1 tablet is an x1 carbon, but in a 12 inch form factor There's also a thousand twenty nine dollar think center x1 all-in-one desktop PC $799 twenty seven inch IPS think vision x1 3840 by 2160 monitor with usb-c ports. That's the reversible usb X1 yoga ships this month x1 carbon in the tablet ship in February and the think center and think vision x1 ship in March Get it got it good Have a toilet gondol say posted the story that mark Zuckerberg announced on Facebook his personal challenge for 2016 is to quote Built a simple AI to run my home and help me with work He compared it to Jarvis an iron man He wants to teach it to let his friends in the house by facial recognition Let him know if he needs to check on his daughter Previously Zuckerberg has challenged himself to read two books a month learn Mandarin and meet a new person every day These are only his new year's resolutions. He's also resolved a couple of other things, but we will talk more about that in our discussion Wi-Fi Alliance has approved IEEE 802 11 a h under the catchy name of Wi-Fi Halo Spelled h a l o w to avoid a lawsuit from Microsoft It will supposedly double the distance and cut the power consumption compared to current Wi-Fi Operate in the 900 megahertz band which penetrates walls better. Well, so conflicts with your microwave probably It's a little slower too. It's between 150 kilobits per second and 18 megabits per second But the Alliance hopes it could help replace cellular for cities that you did do smart city communication Or maybe replace Bluetooth for wearables So allow your your wearables and your Internet of Things devices to communicate over Wi-Fi over the same router That's doing the 2.4 gigahertz and 5 gigahertz System so it's all in one anyway devices should appear later this year with the standard becoming official in 2018 they expect thanks to TM204 for submitting the story to the subreddit Considering how much we have connected on a daily basis like it's starting to get to the point where I forget and could Not name how many things that are connected either to my Wi-Fi or through another device Anything that keeps those more regularly Communicating and and avoids failures would be greatly greatly appreciated. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if you can get the device makers on board With this a lot of people are questioning How good the power management the power consumption could be the distance? I mean you do 900 megahertz. You should get the distance That's not gonna be a problem But they haven't given solid numbers on what the power consumption be other than saying cutting it By an unspecified amount So there's some speculation that it might not be as good as it needs to be to get taken up by the device makers Well, well, let's see whether or not it's above or below the price of an Oculus Rift People low I'm pretty sure about that. Yeah He's there announced to Chrome devices at CES a rugged $180 Chromebook laptop with an 11.6 inch screen Celeron processor SD car reader and four gigabytes of RAM with 32 gigabytes of storage and The Chrome base a 24 inch all-in-one PC with webcam and up to four gigs of RAM no ship or price dates yet Yeah, Chrome it's a thing. It's a real thing and Machines that could run Windows are being announced that run Chrome. So Welcome welcome to the to the real race Chrome I mean, it's been there for a while a lot of people try and Chrome using Chrome like and Chrome So it's it's kind of cool to see Acer announced new devices that are just here's our new Chrome devices not Look, we have Chrome devices.  At the same time Ford announced it will support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in its sync 3 platform 2016 model cars will get it as an upgrade and it will come installed on 2017 models Meanwhile GM invested $500 million in lift the ride-sharing system towards developing a system of Self-driving cars or at least that's part of the reason they were part of that round of funding Everybody's talking about cars at CES We're gonna have Tim Stevens on the show tomorrow to tell us a little bit more about that But Justin, I really love this because anybody who's used Ford sync knows how the app system work And it's it was a little clunky in the beginning But the idea is it doesn't matter what phone you have and under this system It might not matter what car you have you just get in and use an app that has been developed to use the open-source app link system and it should work You have no idea how much this is indeed a good idea having been a business traveler for the past four years I have used each and every auto makers own proprietary system to either link your phone or Download apps that can make your driving experience richer this Immediately almost within a year of my four-year process led me to never using any of the devices Or any of the systems the ui's that were used in these cars. They are almost universally Awful the best elements of it are being able to connect your phones You can get connectivity so you can get The wireless bandwidth and then having an app profile or platform that you could theoretically just walk in and have Automatically pop into the car that really starts to make these things sing I'm very very happy to see that a lot of these manufacturers are saying hey look It only costs us money to create an inferior ui We might as well just get one that works whoever we need to pay to make that happen Let's just do it because once you have people making those decisions Then you can actually start moving this technology forward as opposed to just trying to make a thing That's not like the other things so you're not getting sued by the other people making things Yeah, I did for it is doing it right in this case by saying sure Toyota you want to use it great It's open source. Let's let's make it happen. We'll all benefit from it there It's a car maker right a very old-fashioned business Taking the benefits of open source and at the same time saying Apple car play Android you guys want in yeah, sure we'll support you too. Why not because what we care about is the driver It's driver-oriented design and I love that Well, what do you make of the the GM lift thing real quick, you know, that's an interesting play I think we're starting to see The future where your ride-sharing service like some rental car services will be brand Associated, you know, I I like lift because it has GM cars whereas we're might have Audi's or something I don't know it'll be interesting to see It seems like they're just kind of spreading money around and seeing whether or not this scratch-off lottery ticket pays off for them You know, I can't imagine where lift to qualify something on cars, you know Since you are a at a for higher business theoretically You're just looking for people who have extra time unless the idea is maybe hey GM's got a bunch of fleet vehicles that may or may not get used Here's a way that we can push them to people who want to drive for lift for either a rental or sale fee Situation maybe maybe that's an interesting play, but it's curious that they want to get in on this Well, I think what uber does is everything itself. They come into a market and they just do everything themselves They want to do self-driving cars. They hire people away from Carnegie Mellon and they'd start a research center What lift does is hey, let's partner with ride-sharing services in China So we can code share and have bigger coverage without having to do everything ourselves And this is an example of that.  Let's team up. I mean also this is a an explosive industry right now controversial legally challenging but right now Everybody wants to get in on the gigantic growth of this You know easily the poster boy of the gay economy. Yeah, absolutely Intel announced that it is purchased German based UAV maker ascending technologies all 75 employees will be asked to join Intel Ascending technologies as integrated Intel's real sense image and depth recognition technology into its own sense and avoid features just continuing to see Intel diversify under Brian Kazanich's leadership and Another another way another smart get for them something that uses the kind of technology that Intel already makes and now It's gonna be part of the Intel fold that will be another bet None of these things on their own are going to save Intel But if you have enough of them enough of them will succeed that Intel will have a way forward no matter what happens to the chip market Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense And gadget reports AMD is showing off early looks at its energy efficient graphics architecture called Polaris a future chipset claims to be 61% more energy efficient than a g-force GTX 950 with similar performance Polaris uses 14 nanometer FinFET design as well as Improved memory use and a bunch of other under-the-hood changes sports hdmi 2.0 a and HEVC video for 4k The first Polaris based graphic chips are expected in Q3 around the same time as Nvidia will come out with their own energy efficient Pascal graphics architecture CNET reports Activision Blizzard has paid $46 million to acquire major league gaming Essentially paying off its debts Activision Blizzard formed a new e-sports unit back in October very Interesting where e-sports are going. I don't know if it's going to be 2016 But in a continually fractured media market where you're seeing more and more moving to online subscriptions and networks almost focusing Treating online subscriptions as more of a serious revenue model. You've got to wonder where e-sports rank in this new pay for what you want to watch World that we are facing increasingly. Yeah, no, this is a This is a good play for Activision Blizzard if they want to build up e-sports because they rather cheaply To the major league gaming stockholders chagrin get to pick up some expertise in technology major league gaming was in trouble They were they were having very very bad debt problems. So this resolves that better than going bankrupt one would think and it does it does move e-sports as you say into into a Into a game maker driven Situation for the foreseeable future Yeah, TechCrunch reports Blackberry says it has reached an agreement with Pakistan to continue offering Blackberry enterprise service in that Country Blackberry said it would shut down operations in response to a government demand for access to BES data Not BIS or BBM, which they have agreed to share some with some other countries We reported on this earlier that they would just withdraw from Pakistan and as a lot of people expected When they when the ultimatums were delivered everyone decided to figure out a way to work together and That my friends is look at the headlines Don't forget to submit stories and vote on them daily tech news show dot reddit.com Okay, we're gonna talk about Zuckerberg real quick, but CES coming up and Justin and I were talking about this earlier before the show It's an engine it's interesting how my perspective over CES has changed over the years as I've stopped Attending because I found myself just sitting in a corner at CES Reading about all the things that I couldn't possibly cover on my own And so I just try to stay back and get the bird's eye view of things Whereas there is value to being there if you're not trying to cover everything and saying, okay Let me take a closer look at this and that and get your hands on it and Jenny That's that's one of the awesome things that you are doing and getting other people who are there to lend us that perspective but how how much News actually gets covered. I mean how many how much is worth covering? I actually pulled back a little bit today from some of the things we didn't cover all the smart fridges We didn't cover the LG rollable display because other companies have done rollable displays before and that's just a very headline grabbing things But they're not shipping anything. There's not a product. That's gonna use it yet So it's it's an interesting event because it's gargantuan and it's huge But it generates a lot more light than heat sometimes So just as someone who just arrived Let me read to you CES is or one of the The takeaways of what you can expect from CES 2016 and tell me how different it is from what you could have expected It's CES 2015 which is cars of the future virtual reality rise of the drone streaming smart home Transportation and which is like the little scooters that maybe we'll see one or two blow up while we're here and the Internet of Healthy Things now so Mine just reading that was Mashable's list by the way my mind went a little bit But every year I come here. I see one thing that blows my mind One thing and if I could see that one thing this time or wear it on my face I will be happy and that's all it takes for me to keep coming back here every year not to mention like you never know Who you're gonna see at any given moment and that's a lot of fun But I just looking for that one wow Moment and maybe it'll be a smart fridge. You never know and there well there have been those well moments There was there was sling box way back in the day was something that everyone was blown away by You know we joke about web OS, but when palm came with web OS Its language has been used now in every smartphone interface It's just that palm was unable to capitalize on it But that was something new and that was something interesting. So you do see these big things Well, and it's very much reminiscent to me and I'm sure we're going to have very similar discussions when South by Southwest comes around where Yes, it has a legacy probably South by Southwest interactives Maybe a little fresher than CES is in terms of the new thing kind of happening or feeling like that This is these moment of supernova that all of a sudden it goes from something that is whispered about to something that everybody knows however, I have as Somebody who has worked both on on the inside of tech news gathering as well as an avid Consumer of it. I have what I like to call the fridge decks That is the more I'm reading about fridges the less CES was actually worthwhile because there's always really cool things you can do with fridges and boy only Next to smartphones and televisions do people like to write up amazing features lists for devices like they do for fridges Make sure that everything is beamed to your smartphone and also we can connect with your lights So they'll flash green when your produce is is in need of another crisping This is always Gigantically hit or miss and I just don't know what in a world where there are so many different ways to get the word out on a product how important what seems almost archaic this like Carnival Barker like no come to the fair. We'll show you the future Physical show room element that CES is it just you know I think that there's always going to be something cool because it's a self perpetual motion machine every there's always been stuff cool There will always be something that like Jenny said at least the one thing that's going to shock your head off your shoulders, but Is it the the gigantic height monster that draws all of our friends in the tech media? Out of their hovels and into the casino floors. I don't think so Yeah, it's it's it's something we will try to cover It at least this year will try to cover for things that are newsworthy things that on if they were announced on any other Day we would cover and I'm gonna try to avoid The things that are just like well, maybe someday maybe that'll be interesting But you let me know let me know what you think of our coverage this year And what kind of things you want out of that coverage feedback at daily tech news show comm Mark Zuckerberg personal challenge for 2016 We told you a few of his previous ones in the headlines and as we said this year He wants to build a simple AI to quote run my home and help me with my work You can think of it kind of like Jarvis in Iron Man his words As we mentioned he wants to teach you to let his friends in by just looking at their face Let him know what's going on in his baby's room Help him visualize data in VR for work. He said this should be a fun intellectual change to code this for myself I'm looking forward to sharing what I learned over the course of the year So the obvious thing to have fun with is like oh my gosh Mark Zuckerberg's gonna create an AI just like an ex machina and it's gonna take over the world But I think this is really cool because it shows somebody trying to stay in Touch with who he used to be before he had to run Facebook as a big public CEO He was a guy who just liked to mess around with code and see what he could make it do And this is one of the coolest things to try to code for right now We mentioned before some of his other Personal goals one of which was to learn Mandarin because he wanted Facebook to be able to expand into China You need to have a presence and show respect and deference in that market He wanted to take the time and publicly say this was what I will hold up as a goal Those are CEO goals right and I think what's exciting about this is that this is a hacker goal because you have to figure You know if he's literally gonna do this and apparently he's gonna post details on on what he does and how he's doing it This very much seems a lot more realistic than you might think if even you're just Hacking an Amazon echo, you know Amazon echo for people who don't necessarily Have the the brilliant coding mine of of or resources of a Mark Zuckerberg can do about 80% of the boring stuff that he listed and you know, it's gonna take a little bit more to do things like you know facial recognition on Cameras and everything, but it seems like you're just you know a few You know hundred I FFT recipes away from doing a lot of this kind of stuff with barely available Technology, which is really red and Jenny He could probably learn some things coding this together that he can then give to his team to apply to Facebook Absolutely, I mean one of the things that fascinated me was this very very long article That I sent you and now I can't remember where it was from talking about salon talking about it was like a three-pager talking about Facebook's Algorithm for the news feed and how can there's a couple articles that come out like this every year But this one really struck. Sorry slate. It was slate Yeah, it's one of those pretty web 2.0 guys, but but what I really loved about it was the idea that somehow these two Ideas could eventually merge in that they were saying that really it's very very hard for Humans to get algorithms right for such a mass scale of people at Facebook So maybe you'll just invent an AI that will personalize you and you have your own Facebook AI to go with your Facebook VR experience, you know, like you can see how this ecosystem continues to grow and get more sophisticated Whether we like it or not It's it's like advertising to me if it's done, right We like it if it's intrusive or it doesn't work We don't and the problem with AI right now for all of our joking around is not that it's in danger of getting too smart It's that it puts really crappy things in your news feed or it doesn't work or it predicts the wrong thing and puts the wrong calendar appointment out and so You know seeing the CEO hacking away to make his housework I think is probably something he could contribute some code back to the company and hopefully improve things Your baby is crying suck Let's tie two big stories together Let's say Mark Zuckerberg Looks at this and and takes a bunch of equipment and says oh man You want to know what this is actually fairly feasible and where we are right now with how much these microphones cost these omnidirectional Really good microphones cost, you know, we can put our own code into it We can partner with a few people who are doing a lot of these things What do you say? We put together a physical product considering another Facebook owned company in Oculus Rift is about to put a physical product out could this be a dawning of Facebook as a physical product Company in the likes of which they've never really been before I think I think you're on to something My guess would be that Wait the way Facebook has approached these sorts of problems to date has been to acquire a company So maybe what we see is Facebook acquire one or several companies to bundle together into Whether they call it Facebook or not some kind of home Related product company that of course you can log in with Facebook and it will use all of its knowledge about you from Facebook to customize your home if you like although you don't have to do that But that could be one benefit of that. It's an intriguing idea. Look at what he said Recognize my friends based on their facial recognition and unlock my door. What does Facebook have in spades? Facial recognition that is very good I think we can all agree that when you upload something to Facebook and it says we think we recognize four people It's usually pretty impressive That's already there You can take a lot of this information and and flow it right in there And I think that's what he's thinking of when he mentions What he wants to do with this now whether or not it becomes a physical product or he just gets frustrated trying to do this in His office like putting together IKEA furniture remains All I know is that I also made a resolution for 2016 and it was to never leave dishes in the sink overnight. So I feel terrible Listen, frankly yours is achievable. I'm not sure whether Mark Zuckerberg is it or not. So All I know is that we got ourselves a little a little a desktop dishwasher a little Christmas present to ourselves Oh, man, life changing. Yeah, very good Right our pick of the day first pick of the year with so many people attending one of the largest conferences on the planet I figured Rowski's pick was probably one of the best It's the easy ack monster 20,000 milli amp hour power bank that Rowski says not only provides a massive amount of capacity through four USB ports but can charge quickly through two micro us USB cables and Right now on Amazon and I checked it's still the same price. He says it's 36 bucks So we'll have a link to that in the show notes as well But man a portable battery for charging is a must-have at a conference. I Almost I had you know as if a you know a soldier coming back from wartime I just read this and I almost bought it immediately just assuming that I was still on the road as much as I Was I already have three portable batteries, but you could always use more that this is great And you know who knows how much of this is marketing But you know the list price is 130 bucks So, you know if you are in the market for something they don't usually come this cheap I would I would highly recommend it Send your picks to us folks. We we don't take money for them You just send them to us and we pass them along feedback at daily tech new show comm You can find more picks at daily tech new show comm slash picks Marlin from Trinidad Really enjoyed our predictions episode, but he is an Android follower And he always feels like we give Android a little short shrift So he gave us some Android predictions for 2016 Security updates will be the big differentiator for Android handsets in 2016 We've reached the point of good enough in the Android smartphone world in the monthly security updates that have been going out to the Nexus phones have been regular enough that I think the OEMs have to commit to it Connected to this is that Blackberry will benefit the most they released in January update to the priv today He says I predict we'll see a resurgence this year and release another Android phone from Blackberry that will be even more Successful than the priv he says we will finally see the uniting of Chrome OS and Android most likely at Google IO And the first device to get it will be the Pixel C Not sure I'm with you on that one, but okay And the HTC Vive will give HTC some breathing room to continue living for one more year as Investors will be excited by the prospects and reception of the device. They will also release a well-reviewed phone Security updates will be a feature C number one that will do better than last year's model Which he says honestly isn't really that hard And then he says I hope DTS live a semi regular correspondent who will focus a bit more on Android He will be this on and we'll be on next year's prediction show. I Think that's a fair point. I You know, I cover Android as much as I possibly can I use an Android tablet But if you're living in the Android world and you hear all these people talking about iOS, you're that's irrelevant to I get it I keep waiting for that device It's gonna make me go back to Android and really dive in again. I'm quite found yet, but I hear you Marlon. I hear you might be me And also did I mean, I guess maybe we just we just talked so much about iOS that I don't remember that there were any iOS specific predictions, but But yeah, you know, I think right now I mean the the weird spot that we find ourselves with all mobile operating systems Including Android is that they're fairly mature, you know, there's not quite that same kind of big gigantic exciting Elements, we've had so many updates. We've had so many different New versions of it that it you know that the shine is off the Apple I think in general for for mobile operating system off the Apple you say see It's not off the little robot is it No, I think you're right. Most of our predictions were about VR But still it's good to have I like this prediction about the security updates becoming a selling feature though I think that's pretty pretty insightful and Sorry real quick because this is the most important email that we've ever gotten to this show coming up next I Want to point to Jenny the HTC Vive remember that where that That demo that's apparently the blow your you know melt your face off amazing demo melt your melon I'm writing it down on the list. Yeah Yes, this is the most important email Justin will get all here Ruben was a my Ruben in Monterrey, Mexico among many people in various forms not just email who pointed out That they listened to the predictions results show over the break And heard us talking about how Justin thought he had predicted a spider-man movie With the crossover to the Avengers and and Ruben says I want to point out that I perfectly remember when Justin did his spider-man prediction last year Even though it's not a tech prediction. We even had somebody on YouTube Do a link to the portion of last year's episode that had that prediction. So yes, Justin You were not crazy. You did predict the spider-man crossover. I feel like that is something that deserves recognition All the loyalty DNS listeners who remembered me making that prediction even Despite the the powers that be trying to gaslight me into believing that I had not correctly Predicted that spider-man would be freed from stone Well, that is it for day one CES coverage two days before the show begins Which is always the way it goes Jenny Good luck. Thank you my feet hurt already Pre-hurt your feet. I did but I did want to say if anyone wants me to go look at something or thinks there's something I should look at you the fastest ways to tweet me at Jenny J J E and then IE J 23 on Twitter because that's the one I'm on you can also tweet daily tech news show show daily tech news show And oh and let us know what you think. I really will really knock my socks off I really want to get you on the snaps knocked off this year. Yeah, she is wearing Perfectly adequate socks. They're not loose. They're not tight R. E. I wool socks. 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Yeah, I'm waiting I'm waiting to see what the most outrageous smart thing is this year because I feel like I maxed out on that last year Wandering around like the back halls of the sands, which is where they keep like all the extra stuff that they can't fit in the lvcc and uh, uh, you know, it was Maybe I'm maybe my goal this year will be to find the saddest corner of ces and do a nice big feature on whoever's there Where's the saddest darkest saddest corner of the consumer electronic show? Shine a little the dtns light on them and see what Because really like Look, you can't do comprehensive coverage. By the way, let me know when you want a title But there are very yeah. No, we need a title. You're right. Yeah. Uh, how's this work? Um, yeah, I know what is this job? You have sorry. I can't do that. Zuck, which is solid Um, that's good D3 ns, which is a little self-referential, but I like it as a logo um And uh, the only one I thought of was well, there's fridge decks, which I kind of really like Uh, yeah Yeah, okay, go ahead and continue your thought I'll pick one of these So, um, I guess my thought is like, okay, look, we're we're a two person three person or seven person show depending on how you count Right, and only one of us is going to ces this year And uh, and my feeling of it is is like if you can't Hopefully because frankly the entire internet does that for you And then we try to cover what really makes news My question always is what can one person do? That is not about smart fridges and that is not about oh, there's so many people here And oh the security is going to be really tight this year and all this stuff like what is the piece you can do that really is Like lovely and interesting and and audio centric. So that's my challenge. It's my personal challenge I'll take any suggestions you all might have if you see I like the uh the uncovered ces because there's so much that gets covered There's always something in the corner Like I remember the one of the early ces as I went to and discovering that royal typewriters had a booth And it's gorgeous and they and they were at that time still selling electric typewriters I don't know if they still feature that but there was a whole bank of electric typewriters And and they also had uh pda's which tells you about how long ago this was And and other digital devices like label printers and stuff like that But they were getting no love like no They were getting their trade people coming in obviously, but they were getting no coverage by anybody for anything Yeah, I think that's what I want I don't want the hippest thing and the newest thing because I personally am not seen it and they do an excellent job And so well, yeah, I've seen it when yeah, when I was there and I know it hasn't changed Has like 40 to 50 people. Yeah, just out on the floor at any given time Yeah, I uh I feel like maybe it's not right for this show, but I would like to cover this year My theme will be the sadness of ces Yes, sad Maybe you could maybe you could make a positive spin and do like cheering up ces Yeah What if my goal was just to go around and make people smile at the sad booths and the booths I love that. I think that's fantastic I just have a chat like a human and have them tell me something interesting So this is not so much, you know, like this is activist journalism, right? Yeah It's just to cheer people who are otherwise depressed up Yeah Like the people whose shipment didn't arrive or they're missing a fox or you know, like something like I just want to go like say hey, you're doing okay. You're here. It's okay Well, you know or you get inspired with people with, uh, you know, uh, a completely trashed, uh Displays and and let them know Next time let the union guy move your box and maybe somebody in the middle will destroy your set. You should do a video In in the empty spaces There's always a booth that's empty that somebody didn't show up for and then like just imagine What would have been there and like supposed to be asked people like the you can do a man on the street Where like you ask people like what booth do you think this would have been? Actually, you should do a whole video bit What I should do is find an empty booth to do a whole video a bit about the newest how to stealth technology And it's right here and it's amazing But you know all of a sudden, you know, I'm not trying to be Billy on the street This booth looks empty because it's so impossible to grip It's just too much Yeah That's true and um and in the path, you know, my big revelation a few years ago was Not going to ces because I as I said in the show I realized that I was just sitting there covering it the way I would cover it at home Anyway, because I couldn't cover anything in person and it was kind of nice in the evenings to go to the press conferences and say Oh, yeah, I did I got to pick that up, uh, but it just wasn't worth the hassle when so many other people are doing it And that's what jenny's providing is that I got to pick it up Aspect I got to try on the oculus. Hopefully something like that. This is the but but the But but now my realization after not going several years is how much of this Is covered because people feel like they need to justify all the trouble I went to to go to ces Yes, that's that's the thing and that's really what I like you got to cover something Right because otherwise why is you know, uh, why is the cnet business insider vox media?  When it's just going to be in this in this, uh uh gang handshake Of of all these other tech announcements. Yeah, it's interesting. That's why microsoft pulled out Uh, they pulled out a ces Because because they were like I we can get more bang for a buck outside of ces when we're not competing with everybody else I mean apple did that with mac world Yeah, conference dedicated to them for when never went to ces Apple never went to ces and and when when faced with okay Do we want to announce everything on our own time? Where we can bump it back internally a week and it's not going to be a big thing or Have us pegged into one element One one time stamp, uh in a conference dedicated to how great we are and how much everyone loves us They're like, yeah, no, we'll just do it ourselves. Yeah, and so I think it makes sense for the smaller companies Uh, or maybe even in some sense the overseas companies like an lg to say well, let's do this because it's harder for us to get coverage otherwise Yeah, which is why I think vr is is an exciting thing for ces this year because You're finally starting to see these companies sort of become Retail companies as opposed to just sort of tech demos whereas ces loves a good tech demo Yeah, yeah, we love to cover things that people might actually buy uh and Oculus becoming a retail product in the next few days htc vive which is apparently again the vr demo Uh looking to be released a playstation vr is going to be a thing this year Now you're like, okay. This is a fringe element with major money behind it That wants press press press press press and you're going to have a lot of thirsty ass press people Looking for something to cover and it's not and and as I I always try to point out every year Ces isn't just for press coverage It's also the the original purpose and the continuing purpose is to strike deals with retailers and suppliers and wholesalers And so there's there's companies that go and they don't care about whether they get press coverage They're they're there to kind of sign up their inventory deals for the coming year Yeah, no, I mean there's And in that it doesn't have to be sexy, right? Like, you know if you are just looking to move the fridges and you want to find how many fridges Best buy is going to move this year And and you know and in all these other uh big box retailers or everywhere else, you know This is just a good way to do that. It is a trade show Yeah, after all But you know as far as I think jenny is going to do great work out there and Aside from that, I don't know exactly how much DTNS needs to cover it beyond the fact that there are going to be cool announcements, and you'll cover them Like every other cool announcement that's ever come out Well, I'm curious if anybody's even going to notice what I did on today's show Which is I covered about four or five fewer stories than I would have the past couple of years Yeah, uh like aces had an announcement and I was like, yeah aces had a phone announcement So I just I was like, you know I'm just not going to put it in there and see if anyone really if you know Does it do people say hold on you didn't seem to have as comprehensive coverage Uh or the fridge I mean and the rollable really the rollable Screen was the one that made started me thinking like well, wait a minute. I've covered this from samsung I've covered it from from other I think sony like This isn't anything to cover yet Rollable screens is something to cover when they're like here's a product that will ship in q2 It it is about as much of a story to me as the uh, the the the faraday motors batmobile You know sketch that they put out today where it's like Yeah Let's just see, you know Because that's that's the other thing is is you know to to uh, you know At the risk of of uh, you know furthering my my uh Apple fanboy reputation like, you know, there is an art to getting things out onto the market, you know, there isn't to getting things uh At at the the price that you need to make a profit on it and to have it be successful and It doesn't cost you anything To create a demo version, you know vaporware is vaporware for a reason and You know until it's it's got, you know, like you have a practical application for a rolling screen then You know, what the hell are we doing? I want a rolly screen but why I wanted one for a long time Because yeah, just make make things so much more convenient, especially if it was a touchscreen You can have rollable components in it too I mean that's a thing like rolly screen is one thing but you're still gonna have to have some flat base for it So you get the rolly Yeah, I mean and now listen we are trying very very hard in our apartment in oakland to live the the small footprint lifestyle, you know and and anything if we could have a television that was just sort of like You know had a smaller footprint and wasn't always just this big flat brick Uh in in the center of our apartment. That'd be great. That'd be awesome Yeah, well a small footprint was was 2015's hot trend just and roll footprint is 2016's hot trend Got you and next year the zippable television. I'm trying to live the roll up lifestyle Everything I own can roll up Uh Yeah, I mean jenny also pointed out the random celebrity factor is definitely You know, I mean I did dance within a few feet of bill gates one year So that's cool. That was a convex but still like this. I'll always have that We'll always have vegas bill bill doesn't know but I do yeah the three security guards surrounding him while he was dancing also Uh, man, where I wonder where Jenny went Uh, I I didn't see when she dropped the allure of the bridges. We're calling It was too much for Did she say anything in slack? No. Oh, I wonder for internet just took a Oh, I got kicked out the hang out the second molly wood walked in the door Oh, what a big magnetic field Yeah By the way, I was I was you know looking for podcasts in the great podcast blackout of the holidays I was I was uh at the uh At at the mercy and uh decided I realized that I hadn't subscribed to marketplace or subscribed to marketplace turn it on And look who's uh guessing for kairis doll none other than the lovely but molly wood I was very excited sweet I got one of those uh comments just now on the daily tech news show blog Where I couldn't quite tell if it was spam or not That's how good the spammers are getting. Oh really but it doesn't link to anything But it was like it's an aol address What is it there? Uh, I wholeheartedly agree with the rankings amazon story will always be my favorite so funny It's a response to the weekly tech views post from saturday And it was fun to reread the other top stories, especially when you can personally relate to them. Good job Hmm Too positive can't be a real person You know, you know, I'll do Well, but see that keyword search could do that. Yeah, I don't know I don't know to approve or not to approve because what it what what they do is they try to get an approved post So that their post will automatically be approved in the future That's what the spares tried Hmm Well, all right, if you hear this send me an email. I'm sorry Uh, sorry. All right. Uh, yeah, I'm out of here too So adios. Thanks everybody. Goodbye


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