The DuPont Company of Wilmington, Delaware, makers of better things for better living through chemistry, presents the Cavalcade of America. Our play is Barbed Wire Christmas based on the true experiences of GIs in a German prisoner of war camp. Our star, Edmund O'Brien, before Christmas in 1944, the place, an American prisoner of war camp deep in Germany. In a snow-covered compound, a group of American prisoners stands shivering in the icy wind, waiting for morning roll call. When you hear this whistle, you will come to attention. A message from the commandant. At the eve of Christmas, the curfew will be extended to one o'clock. Take notice. It's eve of Christmas only. On all other nights, as usual, any prisoner found outside barracks will be shot. This is the story of that Christmas eve, a Christmas that I and 4,000 other American enlisted men spent in a German prison camp. We lived in flimsy barracks surrounded by barbed wire and trigger happy German guards. We were forever cold and wet and hungry, and I mean really hungry. My name is Peterson, Sergeant Bert Peterson, as the elected leader of the 150 men of Barrack 35B, my main problem was to keep us all alive until the Allied armies came for us. And now, with another horrible German winter beginning, the only thing that kept us from doing something desperate and suicidal was our conviction that it wouldn't be too long now. Most of us kept up our hopes, but some, like a kid from West Virginia named Nick, like to sit around the barrack and worry about it. Hey, Pete, how long you think it'll be, huh? I mean, before we get out. I don't know, Nick. Soon, I hope. Well, like when?  Well, I don't know. Maybe, maybe a month, if we're real lucky. And we're real lucky, typefellas. Got a roof over our heads, three square meals a month, and all the water we can drink. Who needs more? Outside of human beings, that is, or animals. Well, why a month? Our guys are in Germany already, only 400 miles away now. 400 miles? Nothing at all. They'll be bouncing in here on their Pogo Sticks first thing tomorrow. Hey, Pete! Hey, Blackie, where you been? Over to the chaplain's office. Hey, you know, we're all gonna have a midnight mass Christmas, even the chapel. Ain't that charming now. What do you mean, we all? I mean, the whole camp, anybody wants to come. That's better, because frankly, I couldn't be less interested. Yeah, we know, we know. Hey, Milstein? Yeah? Father Moran wants to know if you'll sing at the service. Hey, Pete! Sure, why not? Hey, Pete, you hear the BBC News this morning? No, no, I didn't. I don't know why.  Yeah, they're always yakking like that. You already believe that stuff? I don't know, but it's just what I heard, is all. Well, we can check it tonight on the radio, but it sounds phony to me. It better be, because I ain't staying here another winter. You're not, eh? No, my friend, I'm not. I had plenty last winter, more than plenty, and I ain't taking it again. So, what you got in mind, Nick? There's 4,000 of us, ain't there? 4,000 against a handful of crouts! Uh, Nick, you ever hear about Love 3? Our guys tried a mass break there, remember? And they got mowed down like so much hay. Not one man got out. Not one. So they didn't plan right. That's all. All I know is that stuff about the Jerry's counterattack is on the level. I ain't staying here. And, brother, I won't be the only one. Believe me that! I believed them, all right. If the news was true, there'd be all kinds of desperate prison breaks, all resulting in one thing. Plain, simple suicide. That night, to catch the BBC news, I hauled out the crystal set I'd built. Radios were strictly forbidden by the Jerry's, so we had to take precautions. What do you want me, Pete? Get that window, Hansid. Okay. A HUD. You get by the door, and sing out if you hear anything. Right. And loud, because I can't hear so good with these earphones on. Okay. All clear here. Nobody coming? All right, now keep it quiet, huh? The news ought to be on right now. What's he singing, Pete? Yeah, is it on? What's he saying? There's some news. Quiet. When you're quiet, I can't hear. I got it. I think it's London. Yeah, here's the news now. On Western Front, situations are increasingly serious. And vicious counter-attack. German forces have bulged back into Belgium. Some places to depth of 50 miles. The United States 101st Airborne Division reported to be cut off and surrounded at Bastogne. So it's true, huh? So it's true. So we're never getting out of here. Never getting out of here. Yes, it seemed to be true, all right. Very little was said that night after the news. The lights went out at nine as usual. And as we crawled into our sacks, no one slept. Each man I knew was lying there thinking, brooding, planning. Slowly building himself up to a state of suicidal desperation. As barrack leader, it was my job to get their minds busy with something else. But what? Finally, long after midnight, I thought of something. And in the morning, first thing after all, I called the barrack. All right, you guys, simmer down now, huh? And the purpose of this meeting? Well, it's not very long until Christmas and, well, we haven't done anything about it. What? The Yuletide season upon us so soon gracious me, our time doth fly. Christmas in this place, who cares? Well, I do, Nick, for one. You would.  But I, well, I had some kind of a Christmas tree, for instance, every year of my life and some kind of Christmas dinner. And I'm going to have them this year. Jerry's are no Jerry's. Count me in, Pete. Me too, Pete. Okay, Blackie. And the name's Milstein. And I still think it's a good idea. Had a boy, said. Like I said, I still don't care.  What do you got in mind, Pete? Well, like a, like a Christmas tree, for one, and, and decorations, and, and some kind of special dinner. And we could put on a show. And later, they'll be the midnight mass for whoever wants to go. Goodie, goodie, goodie.   This is a free country. That's a joke, son. Just slipped out, Sid. Forget it. Anyway, we got to have some committees. Say, Blackie. Yeah. How'd you like to be chairman of the dinner committee? Okay, sure. Now, Hud, you're the comic around here. Suppose we put you in charge of the show. Oh, no, no, you don't, boy. Okay, okay. We vote. All those in favor of Hud being chairman of the entertainment committee, say, I. I. Opposed? No. Motion carries. Oh, for Pete's sake, I don't. And the show better be good, boy. Are you going to get four dozen ripe tomatoes, right?  Who's got tomatoes? And so began what I came to think of as Operation Christmas. And it started to work. In each of us, memories of wonderful Christmas's long past were stirred into life. And strangely, each of us began to think of Christmas as his own personal possession to be recreated here in this dismal place down to the last minute detail. There were even a few arguments. A star on top of the tree? How come? Sidney is star. What else for Pete's sake? An angel, you dope. You got to have an angel on the tree. An angel?  Star of Bethlehem. Somebody, you don't even know what Christmas is about? Sure, I know what Christmas is about. Look, didn't this angel come to the shepherds out in the field and tell them that Jesus was born and were to find him? Yeah. Okay. That's why you always have an angel on top. And I'm chairman of the decorating committee and we're having an angel. Okay. Okay, so we put both on top.  Okay. All right. Okay, no need to get so horrible. Who's getting sore? But behind them all was a deep common concern, a common spirit, the spirit of Christmas. And as Christmas Eve drew near, our tensions and worries were forgotten in our preparations for the party. All right. So now a report from the dinner committee, Blacky. Right. Well, this is what we got worked out, fellas. Each guy puts in two squares of K rations and one square D bar. And then he had some prunes, a couple slices of spam or some liver paste depending on what he's got. And I'm going to make us some cake out of what is commonly referred to as ingredients. Being namely some sodium bicarb tablets. And thank you, Fanny Farman. Yes, everything was going fine. And then the worst happened. It was the morning of Christmas Eve. We were all busy with our various job in the barracks. And we heard the shout that meant we weren't alone. Is it Jerry in the house? Jerry in the house. What's on your mind? Message from the commandant. Tonight it will be forbidden to have the midnight mass. Quiet! What do you mean forbidden? The one o'clock coffee will still be allowed. But the mass? Not just a minute, fellas. Just a minute. Why not? Why no mass? I do not make the order, Sergeant. All I know, the mass is forbidden.  I don't like that. I don't, not a bit. You know I got a notion to go anyways. Yeah. They want trouble, we'll give them trouble. Ah, what are you yacking about, HUD? You weren't going anyway. All right, so I never had much use for that religious stuff. But to me, having a mass not to go to is just as big as you're having a mass to go to. Try it again in English. Maybe it's more like this, Blackie.  But we've only got one chaplain here. And well, he happens to be Catholic. So we've got to sort of spread him around, so to speak. When he talks about God, I think of my God, and Pete here thinks of his, and HUD here thinks of his. Assuming he's got one. Joe, I got one. What do you mean? You think I'm some kind of atheist or something? One more problem. Nobody said that, HUD. Nobody said that. And let's simmer down, huh? Well, I'm going over to the chapel tonight. And I'd like to see the Jerry or anyone else who's going to stop me. Me too. I'm going too.   They wouldn't dare. What difference does it make for Pete's sake? Who's going to live here anyway? I promise to sing Pete and I'm singing. So we're all going, Pete, whether you like it or not. What are you going to do about it, boy? Do about it? I don't know, HUD. I, frankly, don't know. We're going to our cavalcade played. Barbed wire Christmas, starring Edmund O'Brien. It was Christmas Eve, 1944. We were a bunch of GIs in the prisoner of war camp in Germany. As a barrack leader, I found myself faced with a serious problem. My guys were going to chapel for midnight mass, whether it meant getting shot or not. All I could do was go over and take it up with other barrack leaders. And when I got to their office, there were a couple of dozen other guys standing on the steps, barrack leaders and compound leaders, and also the chaplain, Father Moran. Hello, Pete. You too, Aaron. How are you, Padre? Say, what goes on here, anyway? Well, it's a strange and wonderful thing, Pete. It seems that 4,000 GIs, Catholics, Protestants and Jews, are suddenly all up in arms about a mass that most of them weren't going to, anyway. So we've asked the commandant to meet us here. Everybody, huh? Uh-huh. I thought it was only my guys. Hey, look. Oh, yeah. Here he comes, private army and all. Well, you asked to see me? About what, Captain Moran? Colonel, it's about the mass. First, you gave permission, and now you forbidden it. And our men are... Then, Gestapo and the city forbid it. Too many men in one place, not twice. But, Colonel, the men had determined to go. So you tell them it is forbidden. Excuse me, Colonel. They know it's forbidden. They know they might get shot. But they're at the point right now where they don't care. So if you want a few thousand corpses on your hands, you're going to get them. No, I want no trouble here. Then may I suggest that you ask the Gestapo to reconsider? Very well. I will ask, but their answer will take time, Captain. If it does not come before midnight, the order must be enforced regardless of the consequences. You will tell your men the order will be enforced. Quiet! Well, Padre, I don't know, boys. We could call off the service, just close up the chapel. But if the men show up anyway, I think I'd better be there to head off trouble. You know, I just can't get over it. I mean, what crazy, contrary, unreasonable, stubborn, and still profoundly wonderful characters Americans can be. I just can't get over it. I went back to the barrack and briefed the guys on what I'd heard. They listened and nodded and said nothing. They hadn't changed their minds about going to the mass. Just didn't want to argue about it. Barrack 35B was really something to see that night. Nick and Miller had built us a beautiful tree made out of branches fastened to a broomstick handle, and it was decorated with garlands of white tissue, scraps of colored paper, and spirals of tin from our powdered milk cans. And on the very top, there was an angel carved from soap, fastened to a cardboard star. Yes, it was really something to see. Dinner time came and still no word from the commandant. We had a fine Christmas Eve dinner that night. The span was fried just right and the potatoes were boiled to perfection. For dessert, we each had three stewed prunes and a slice of Blackie's specially baked cake. Pretty good too, whatever he'd made it out of. And then came the long-awaited show. We had all kinds of acts, but one I remember especially was Nick, because he sang of home. On top of old Smoky, all covered with snow, I lost my true lover from cordon to slow. On top of old Smoky, I went there. And comedians too, like the act that Hud and Blackie put on. Isn't her a war camp? Have I come to the right place? Yes, it was a fine show, but under all the laughter and applause, we knew that the men were still determined to go to that mass, come what may. It was late when the show ended. We sat around quiet now and exchanged Christmas presents with our best buddies. They were strange gifts, some of them, but very precious in many ways. Hey, hey, how do you like that, a can opener? Hey, Sid, where'd you get it? This isn't the one you had.  No, no, I had an extra one. Well, fine. I mean, thanks. Thanks a lot. It's real charming of you, boy. Uh, here, you all right? I've got something for you. Hey, guys, the time is almost 12. Anybody interested? Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested. Hey, just a minute, hey? Just a minute, fellas. Now, please, give me a minute. I'll be brief. Yeah, well, the brief of the bed. All right, so right now, we never had it so bad. But we'll get out of here. You know we will. If we can just stay alive a little while longer. Don't forget, we've got lives waiting to be lived back home. We've got girls waiting and kids waiting to be born and raised and houses waiting to be lived in. Warm houses with good food on the table. Okay. Okay, you don't want any part of it. Okay.  Maybe so. Hey, hey, outside. Look, whole mob of guys from the other barracks heading for the chapel. Okay, there's going to be a mess. I'm going to sing. Yeah, let's go. Jerry's want to stop a few thousand of us. Let him try. Come on. Well, Pete, how about you? Yeah. Yeah, sure, sure. I'm coming. Let's go. There wasn't room for those who came after us. And soon there were hundreds of guys outside, bunched around the open doors and windows standing hatless in the snow. Inside, up by the cardboard candle at altar, somebody I couldn't see began to play the wheezy old organ. The faces around me were tight with determination and anxiety. Where were the Jerry's? Why hadn't we run into any on our way to chapel? Obviously, they were laying low. But why? We didn't know. We were tense and afraid. Whatever Father Moran felt during that midnight mass, it didn't show. For him, the Jerry's and their barbed wire no longer existed. It was Christmas and he was honoring the Prince of Peace. And then from outside, we began to hear something. And a whisper, starting among the men outside in the snow, swept inside the chapel from man to man, men whose nerves were at hair-trigger tension. The Jerry's, the Jerry's are coming. Okay, let them start something. The Jerry's. Come on, the Jerry's.  Come on, we'll give it all. I just put you chicken easy now. The Jerry's were coming. We could see them coming towards us across the snow, rifles in hand. In a minute or two they were at the chapel door. We held our breath and waited. Not a man among us moved, but we were ready for anything. Then Father Moran turned and seemed to give a nod to Sidney Milstein. As Sid sang that age-old hymn, the Jerry's pushed their way into the chapel. An overcrowded as it was gradually, our prison place of worship was filled with our guards and captors. I knew that one of them was right behind me, but I didn't turn around. Stop us, but to join us. In all our anger and fear, we'd forgotten one thing. It was Christmas for them too. And remembering this, we began to sing. We all began to sing. The sky seemed wonderfully clear that night as we walked back to our barracks and the stars strangely bright. We didn't have to talk because each man's thoughts were alike. We knew now that the words we'd heard for so long were really true, that Christmas isn't only an anniversary, but a universal spirit of brotherhood, of peace, and goodwill. And in realizing these things, we'd lost our fear.  And we knew too that this would always be the most memorable Christmas of our lives. The program was directed by John Zoller.  The DePont Cavalcade of America came to you tonight from the Belasco Theater in New York City and is sponsored by the DePont Company of Wilmington, Delaware. Makers of better things for better living through chemistry. Hey, just for laughs, listen to Red Skelton on NBC.


What's up everybody this is Giovanni from the options training channel guys today is Monday TG I am I'm so glad to be back at home in front of my computer watching the market during the weekend I got an influx of emails. So if I haven't gone to you by now Rest assured that I will by the end of today. So thank you so much. This is where I love This is why I have my YouTube channel. I am here to help you guys out Unfortunately, I just didn't get any signals here today But I did want to point out a couple things that I'm feeling that I'm watching that I'm analyzing and that is I'm actually Freaking out. I'm freaking out because my strategy is Working. It's working really really well And although that I wasn't in front of my computer to actually watch that signal on Friday I did get an awesome signal. I can show you here really quick And what I mean about the this awesome signal that my strategy that my signals were produced on Friday again I wasn't here to actually watch this live, but I did review it as soon as I got home last night I got this signal. You're looking at the five-minute chart on the far right You're looking at the one-minute chart on the middle and then you're looking at the one-minute chart of the actual option that I would have traded and I'll explain all of this here right now I got this signal on the five-minute chart on spy at 845 my time, which is 1045 Eastern Standard Time and I would have entered on the very next candle There's been many times where I'll get in right before the close on the actual candle So let's just be extremely conservative and You can play this either way honestly you can play this either way it works out either way But that's for for you know explanation purposes We're gonna get in on the very start at the very beginning of the next candle at 850 As you can see here, it went up Consolidated on the one-minute chart before it actually started moving up higher. I did get a signal the five-minute chart I would have been trading more than likely the 293 calls that expired in three days that expired today essentially that's in three days From Friday, right? So at 850 the high was 93 cents you would have had to endure a little bit of pain Went sideways 10% as I always try to make five to ten percent that would have been Give or take, you know nine ten cents, you know easy math Let's just do ten cents at a dollar three it hit it and it kept going as high as 117 almost 118 and Before it actually started come back. I'm coming back down But then those calls actually ended up hitting a high of 161 I believe Yes, but Again, I'm just really Freaking out because this is an awesome strategy. I love this strategy I've said it a thousand times. It's very consistent and something that is consistent in the stock market We can exploit so we can make money guys Thank you everybody so much for watching hit that like button down below And if you haven't already hit that subscribe button and that bell notification So you get notified the moment that I upload a video guys I'm hoping to get into some trades this week. I do have time I don't actually have to work my day job until later in the afternoon. That's my regular schedule So thank you so much everybody for tuning in. We'll see you here on the very next trade


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Cartra or click funnels making the right choice the real truth hey you want to know the truth really well you've come to the right place if you've been trying to figure out if you want to use Cartra or click funnels this video will explain it all you'll know from top to bottom and you can make your own decision in the end and I'll also give you my input as to what I recommend so let's get started the other thing you want to get started at is you need to subscribe you need to hit that button down there you need to turn on all bell notification that bell won't pop up until you hit the subscribe button and when it does you want to click it and you want to turn on all notifications okay don't forget to like this video in the end if you do so I'm going to tell you upfront people have sold millions of dollars of products on click funnels and been very successful people have also sold millions of dollars of products on Cartra and been very successful so I'm going to tell you also both of these platforms are pretty darn good now one does outweigh the other one a lot and as you listen as I go through these two platforms you can make your own decisions as to which one you want to choose I have my opinion for my reasons and you certainly will have yours now I will tell you if you don't have one of these either Cartra or click funnels you're missing out you're missing out a lot of money because both of these things Cartra and click funnels do more than probably any piece of software out there and they're going to make you more money okay and that's really why you're trying to sell online is to make money and help people out and the only way to do that is to have the right software you got to have one of these two you just do so originally click funnels was built by Mike Phil same and Andy Jenkins and actually Andy passed away Mike Phil same split off Andy Jenkins wife runs Cartra now and I've talked to her a few times online for a really nice person but Cartra is basically a whole bunch of softwares in one and they all work seamlessly they all work together so that you have one internet marketing platform I know when I got Cartra and you can see my leaning already but when I got Cartra I got rid of eight different pieces of software so I was paying for eight different pieces of software and I traded up to Cartra and I paid less I paid less money so that tells you something right there a couple of the things about Cartra that's really cool is they integrate the customer relationship and analytics so you can see what's going on in there so the way this works is every single activity that somebody does in there or subscribes to or a video they watch or page they click on is recorded so you can see what's going on with customers and exactly what they're doing and then target your marketing based on their activities when they design Cartra I don't know how they did it matter fact I was kind of blown away when I looked at it the pricing was so low so low that if you don't use everything that's in there it's still a great deal in other words you know we have all these different things in there and I'll talk about some of them in just a second but it's so low so low I mentioned it was low that it's going to blow away click funnels as far as cost right off the bat but I will tell you all of the things that Cartra does is available at every single price level and I can't specifically go through every single one because it's way too many but I will tell you that there's going to be a link below in the description you can click on that link and go there and watch a video if you like what you see you can actually get Cartra for $1 trial the only difference in the price levels is the number of contacts that you put into Cartra but here's the other cool thing they did about a year ago they took off any additional fees for sending out more emails so you can send as many emails as you want and not get charged more I don't know of a single platform that does that now click funnels originally started out as a software for businesses that didn't have a sales funnel and man I mean I had click funnels and I liked it and it was really good I mean it it helped me understand sales funnels and helped me build sales funnels it helped me make money but then they started adding on different parts to it they had action addicts which was I guess their email type thing didn't work very well I tried to integrate my infusion soft with it and they didn't talk very well click funnels would always blame infusion soft infusion soft would blame click funnels and that that was a problem in itself because if you go back to Cartra and I don't want to jump around too much but if you go back to Cartra Cartra has its own email so it's built in there you don't have to worry about it I didn't have to you know integrate anything there because it was all there I got rid of infusion soft when I got Cartra click funnels has also a membership portal to it and that was kind of cool because the only other good one that was out there prior to click funnels was Kajabi Kajabi was the membership thing and that's what they focused on and click funnels focused on funnels so they added a membership part to it the membership part wasn't that great I didn't like it I didn't like the design of it now if you go over to Cartra again Cartra has a great membership site and it integrates well so now you've got Cartra that does you know the the emails and the membership really really well and you've got click funnels that does funnels really well but not so good on emails not so good on membership now I will tell you Russell Brunson runs click funnels and that that is why they became so popular okay that is why they did so well because he's an amazing marketer he's a very personable person he's written several books he's really good at marketing really great guy from what I've seen however Cartra does not have that figurehead they initially started off using Frank Kern Frank Kern would talk about Cartra and how he was starting to kind of use it but he didn't put all of his efforts and energy into Cartra because he felt like that took away from the rest of his businesses so that kind of that split off and Frank's no longer there so that's that's the big problem with Cartra not that they don't have the best software out there which I have to finally reveal I think they do but the big problem with Cartra was that they don't have a figurehead they don't have that person that's out in front Andy Jenkins was originally that person I don't know if he was the best person for that but he's no longer with us you know God rest his soul but bottom line is he was the figurehead they don't have a figurehead now they just have Cartra it's a name Cartra kind of like infusion software Mailchimp or constant contact there's no person in front of it when you put a person in front of it like Russell Bronson is very dynamic and very engaging and you know he's the face of ClickFunnels that's helped their sales tremendously now it comes down to which is better for you I would say if you're just doing a sales funnel they're both going to do the job for you okay ClickFunnels is a good funnel builders pretty easy pretty intuitive to make the pages if you need anything else I would not recommend ClickFunnels Cartra is pretty easy to build the pages probably a little bit more difficult but you can do more with their pages in Cartra and you're going to need other things okay you're going to need emails you're going to need membership sites you don't think you will but you will you know when I originally started selling online I was selling survival food not originally originally but when I finally got going to make money and I didn't really need membership sites I didn't need any of that stuff but I do now and I have it so if you sign up for Cartra at least you're going to have the availability of that on down the road and you say well I can always just switch over oh my oh my oh my now switching over is very difficult switching over is very painful it took us six months to move all of our stuff from infusion soft to Cartra it's very painful to move it's much better if you can get on a software now that's going to do everything you need and then some for the future than to try to switch later on you don't want to do that now in 2019 Russell Brunson kind of nightlighted some of the products in there and moved some stuff over to something called funnel flicks which I don't know that much about but I just will say some of this stuff went away that he had so that is something you want to take into consideration and some of those things included and I'm just going to read off what they said here customer service video marketing calendars analytics and all these things are really crucial for your business see Cartra has all those things whereas ClickFunnels does not ClickFunnels has a basic plan for $97 but it really doesn't offer you much you're pretty much going to have to bump up to the next plan which is $297 a month and then on top of that you're going to have to integrate with some type of email provider you're going to have to use Aweber you're going to have to use git response you have to use constant contact or infusion soft and that could cost you maybe thousands more a month it did us because of the size of our list for beginners I would say Cartra is going to be a lot cheaper and it's going to offer you a whole lot more than ClickFunnels will and actually for an experienced marketer their prices are not bad when the list gets bigger either so when it comes right down to it you know I I got to go Cartra I got to go Cartra and I had ClickFunnels nothing wrong with it but I mean let's face it Cartra has 11 apps built into one place 11 apps in one place now I told you I got rid of eight different pieces of software Cartra's got stuff I wasn't even doing before now I am and I'm using all those areas now you know I've got help desk in there I mean a help desk that's awesome that I can have a help desk on any one of my pages and get notified when customers need assistance also keep in mind if you're going to use ClickFunnels you're going to have to host your video someplace else you're going to have to host it on youtube you're going to have to host it on Wistia or some other site and the the bad thing about that is not so much that you got to host it someplace else but the bad thing is you're going to get no analytics on it you're not going to know you know how many people watched it where they stopped on it since Cartra actually lets you host your videos in Cartra you're going to know exactly how much of that video they watched you know where they fell off and you're going to be able to correct those things here's a little post I want to put up on the screen I thought this was kind of interesting it says hi all for those of you who switch from ClickFunnels to Cartra what do you find much most appealing about Cartra is there that big a difference with ease of building a funnel with ClickFunnels versus Cartra if there is I assume Cartra's other features outweigh the disadvantage it says here I find Cartra easier and better all the way around this person says my favorite feature also a former ClickFunnels customer number one you only have to build it once unlike ClickFunnels where you build a page and then you go back to tweak it for mobile or desktop then you go back to tweak for mobile or desktop in Cartra thanks to the awesome developers all device pages render beautifully every time number two it's more stable and less buggy what did this person say here I was paid to learn ClickFunnels three years ago and build for a friend I loved and missed being able to build the entire page sequence in one area I am not a designer and my funnels don't look anything close to what I'm creating in Cartra when I switched over I had two days to build 25 funnels with product pages in Cartra so I could cancel ClickFunnels building those pages was simple and straightforward Cartra gave me a look I wasn't able to get with ClickFunnels if I could have all my pages from one funnel under one tab in Cartra and easily switch between them to edit and adjust them I'll be a tad happier and I really happy I think he means and I'm really happy with Cartra right now one last one I'll read I'll put it up here I thought this is pretty interesting my opt-in rate was 56% with ClickFunnels same offer and target jump to 92% opt-in rate Cartra has better user experience in my opinion it's not a Frankenstein with Zapier all is integrated the only thing I don't integrate with my calendar and that's because I like calendar more they also have phenomenal customer support although their live chat is never open that doesn't matter as long as they're supporting you I guess the community is there to help and I've never looked back oh and clients have loved the sites I build for them in Cartra 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And I'm going to start by talking about the inspiration behind our company and then how that has led us into a really exciting field of bringing sustainability to remote or what we call islanded communities, whether you're in the middle of Alaska and surrounded by vast expanses of land or whether you're in an island surrounded by vast expanses of water, you're essentially island and you're cut off from the rest of the world, there's no infrastructure. So it's a situation that most people don't appreciate how many people in the world are actually living in these types of situations. So the, is it earth or is it ocean, 70% about and growing because of global warming of the world is covered in water, oceans, rivers, lakes and this water if you notice is almost constantly in motion, whether it's tidal currents or river currents, it's always moving and for those of you who have ever been to a beach and been knocked over by a wave or in a canoe trying to paddle upstream, you get an idea of the power that is in this water. In fact, water currents are 832 times more powerful than wind because of the greater mass. So one way to look at the world is it's this vast resource of energy that's waiting to be tapped. At the same time, if you look at where people live, which is where people use electricity, it's almost always very close to water, an ocean, a river, a lake and that's for a good reason because water provides great transportation, it provides water for irrigation, it really is obviously a life sustaining situation. So by necessity, people have founded town, cities, villages near water. So the amazing thing is if you look at it, most of the people and most of the electricity, roughly two thirds of the electricity that's used in the world is used very close to this amazing reservoir of energy and it has not yet been tapped, it's still there just waiting to be tapped. So somehow, if you could figure out how to take that energy in all of that moving water and use it to generate electricity, you would essentially be delivering it right to the door of the users who live right near the water and it would revolutionize how electricity is generated and transmitted around the world because we wouldn't necessarily need big transmission lines going around, it would all be done on a local or regional basis. So that in essence was the idea, the inspiration behind founding Ocean Renewable Power Company 14 years ago. A group of us got together and thought having spent our careers in electricity business and honestly growing up in Illinois, I knew nothing about water, about oceans. If somehow you could pull this together, it would be dramatic. It wouldn't be a transitional technology, it would be a transformational technology. So that's how we got started in this. And then as it turns out, the more we got into this, the very best of these energy resources, these water resources, which it's really defined by the velocity of the water, the more velocity, the more speed of the water, the more energy there is in it, that stands to reason. The very best of these resources just happened to be located in areas that are for the most part remote or near remote. They've been in decline or never actually had a peak economically. They are areas that have been basically forgotten, it's the greatest underserved market in the world is that people that live in these communities, but they're sitting on these amazing energy resources in terms of either tidal or river currents. So as we really got into looking at how are we going to do this and where are we going to do this, it became pretty clear that the very best place to start is going to be in these areas like Eastport, Maine or Iggy Aga, Alaska, which is a remote community, 280 miles southwest of Anchorage, literally in the middle of nowhere. But on one of the most amazing rivers that you'll ever see, in fact, it's the best salmon fishing in America or in places like Couchwalk, which is in a region of Quebec known as Nunavik, Nicole knows where that is. It's the very northernmost part of Canada, of Quebec. It's bordered by the Angaba Bay on the east and Hudson Bay on the west and it's an area that's absolutely huge and they have several remote communities, Couchwalk being the biggest of them and they have this amazing river, the Couchwalk River, that is a tidal river. So it's not tidal or it's not river, it's both. It's a river, but the tides come and go through the river and it's got tremendous velocity. But these are areas that typically during the wintertime, particularly unemployment rates, can reach 50%. Per capita income is a fraction of where it is, what it is anywhere else. As an example, in Eastport, Maine, if you look at per capita income there, it's less than half of what it is here in Cumberland County and it's only a four-hour drive. So these are areas that are facing severe issues in terms of sustainability. They exist only because there have been government subsidies and those subsidies increasingly are going away and so there are communities like this around the globe that are really seriously trying to figure out how they're going to exist in the future. And energy is a key part of that. So what are these communities like? First of all, they're mostly indigenous people. The area I just referred to in Northern Canada, Nunavik, is part of the Inuit homeland. In Iggyaga, Alaska, there's actually four native tribes that inhabit that community. As I mentioned, they're facing severe sustainability issues. There's no local or regional fuel sources. If you ever went to Kujak, the first thing you notice when you get off the plane, there's no trees. So there's not even wood to burn. They burn diesel fuel for heat. There's no power grids. There's no pipelines. There's really no infrastructure. There'll be fishing boats, a front-end loader, a few things like that, but there's really no infrastructure.  They're too expensive. These don't work. It would be too expensive to bring the fuel there. So they're on diesel. They're fueled by diesel. And diesel is expensive. It almost doesn't matter what it costs at the refinery. Getting it from the refinery to these communities is very expensive. And in some times, in the wintertime, in Igearga, Alaska, for instance, they have to fly in the diesel fuel. So you can imagine how expensive that is. And it's also environmentally risky. These being indigenous communities, they have a high regard, a high respect for the environment. They do a lot of subsistence fishing and hunting. And every year, there are fuel spills. Two years ago, there were three major diesel fuel spills in Nunavik, northern Quebec. And this is devastating for these people. So it's not just the emissions and the noise from diesel. It's all the risk involved with transporting, handling, and storing fuel. So if there is a solution, it has to be based on locally available resources, which means renewable energy. And any power systems have to be easy to deploy, maintain, retrieve. You just aren't going to have the ability to bring in cranes or large pieces of equipment. It would be prohibitively expensive. So for a lot of these northern communities, solar and wind really don't work. You can imagine in these areas in the northern latitudes in the wintertime, solar is not a very good option, maybe for an hour or so a day. But even then, it's pretty marginal. And wind is very problematic as well because wind turbines accumulate ice. They lose their efficiencies. A lot of times they break down. And in the middle of winter in northern Quebec, I guarantee you, you're not going to get somebody to go up there and fix it. They're going to wait till the summer. So the systems have to work and they have to be deployable and retrievable easily. And so that's kind of the underpinnings of what our solutions are, which I'll get into in a minute. And again, because these are communities that, a lot of them were originally communities that some of them go back thousands of years, but they're based on hunting and fishing, they're near water. And so when you get into these northern latitudes, you have tremendous tidal and river resources and it's right at their doorstep. So let's look at the worldwide view of this. There are two billion people in the world that live in islanded or remote communities. Think about it, two billion people that are isolated from the rest of the world. Seven hundred million of them rely exclusively on diesel generation. So that's roughly twice, a little more than twice the population of the United States that relies on very expensive, essentially environmentally dangerous source of electricity. And you can see kind of generally where they're located in most of the advanced societies around there, they tend to be in the north, in Africa, there's a lot of people there that have no electricity, South America as well. But it's a huge underserved market. And if you look at the polar view, I have a great map in my office, actually I have a round conference table and I have a map that I got from a group in Canada looking at the world, straight down looking at the north pole and it's really interesting. It takes them a few minutes to figure out what they're looking at. But you wouldn't believe the number of communities that exist, not just north of the Arctic Circle, but even a couple hundred miles south of there near polar communities that fit this category of being remote isolated and no access to reasonably priced electricity. Typically in these communities the price of electricity is five to 15 times what you pay. So imagine if your electricity bill you got and it was six or eight times what you're paying now, it would be quite a shock. But it goes beyond that as well. If you want to buy groceries in these communities, in Kuzhwak when I was there a couple of years ago I went into the grocery store. A little bitty head of iceberg lettuce was eight dollars. So they're facing sustainability issues. Is that ringing? The ring that you got there? What? What? The latitude of the ring that you marketed. That's actually what's defined as the Arctic. So it's the boundary there. Yeah I don't know what the parallel is. It's probably 65 or 70 something like that. But there's obviously because these are remote communities there's a lot of complicating factors. One of the great things is you meet some real characters. People with names like Jaco or Tarak or Tunu which are shown here by the way. These are people from Igayage. So it's tough because the logistics are very tough. But because the resources right there, once you can get these things installed and get them running and get the local people trained then it becomes a very sustainable situation. But no two communities are the same. Part of the reason they're such an underserved market honestly is because every one is pretty unique. So you can't batch them all together and call them a particular label that these communities are this because they're all pretty unique. So they all have to be approached a little differently. You have to build the relationships. There's obviously over the years have been a lot of people that have tried to sell them snake oil and it didn't work. So there's a little bit of that going on. But you have to do it one community at a time and that takes work. And remote logistics are tough. If you're out there on a river and you drop a bolt in the water, you've got to get on an airplane and fly two or three hours to get another one. And so logistics are key. And it's expensive if you don't plan accordingly. So the implementation can be costly if it's not well planned. And there's a lot of existing and governmental community relationships that are in place. I mentioned that these communities have been subsidized so if you offer them a solution that will reduce the overall cost, that may not actually translate to the actual people. Because it may be the government that's paying the subsidy. And so you have to figure out all the politics of working not just with the local community but with the regional or even federal government to be able to capture the full value of your proposition. So you have to talk to a lot of very different people from government to indigenous organizations to local community leaders. And of course these people have no money. They pay a lot of money every year for energy but they don't have any money to buy anything. So part of the solution has to be being able to package this in a way that they can afford and that reduces their annual payments that they would otherwise make for energy. So that's where ORPC comes in. This, by the way, is our river unit on the Kuizhek River in Agia Aguilasta. Our mission is to improve people's lives and their environment through sustainable energy solutions. And we do that not just from a technology standpoint of generating electricity but being able to bring technology to make their local, what are called micro grids, to make them smart so that they can incorporate not just our systems but if they do do some amount of wind or solar, be able to make all of those generating resources play nice together with the goal of shutting down the diesel unit because if you don't shut down the diesel unit you're not saving them any money. So that's the trick. So it's a combination of generation technology with smart grid technology packaged with a financing plan that allows that they don't have to put out a lot of money up front that over time you can get your return on investment. And it takes an amazing team to do these things. One of the things that I'm most proud of at this company, I was one of the founders, is the people that we've attracted are literally amazing. They're incredibly talented, they're smart, they're dedicated. We now have 30 people on the ORPC team. We're in three countries on two continents. We have Holyomes and Ciderays in Canada, in Ireland, Dublin, Ireland and Montreal. We have extended team that really stretches throughout North America and beyond. I mean, we have research partnerships with people like Penn State, Applied Research Lab, University of Washington in the state of Washington. The University of Maine has been a partner of ours for years. They do all of our marine monitoring. So monitoring for potential environmental impacts. Now in Canada with LaValle University and in Ireland with University College Cork, University of Belfast. What's neat is what's common with all the people we work with is they're excited about what we're trying to do. So we realized 14 years ago that this was going to be a very long putt. Maybe a thousand foot putt, I don't know. And we're down to maybe a 20 foot putt now. But it's the kind of environment where the only way you can actually get through it is you have to be a closely knit team that has all the capabilities that are needed, but above that they're inspired by what we're doing. And when we go into the office every day, we're doing stuff that's never been done before. And there's no manuals. You can't go to the internet and download the manual for this stuff. We're making it up as we're going and we're documenting and we're creating manuals. And that excites people. And technology is great, but people are way more powerful. Speaking about people, this is the crew. These are people from Iggy Aga Galasta that deployed the Ribgen system there. So these are people. We have two. This is Ryan Tyler, our senior mechanical engineer and Monty Worthington, who's our project director in Alaska. The rest of them are all locals that we have trained how to do this. So our value proposition and this shot, I love that the kids were fascinated by it. By the way, one other characteristic of these remote communities that was a shocker to me is the birth rate. The birth rate in Kuzhwak up in Nunavik is almost three times the birth rate of the United States. It's about 3%. So these communities and another amazing thing is that 70% of the people that live in this area in Nunavik, 70% of them are 30 years old or younger. We could use some of that in Maine. So not only are they facing sustainability issues today, but what are these people going to do? And they don't want to leave. This is God's country to them. And if you ever visit one of these communities, you won't want to live there, but you can understand their love of the land and their heritage. So being able to create economic development is key. So that really gets to what our value proposition is. So what we provide them is locally produced and locally controlled electricity, renewable electricity, from local resources. Nothing's brought in. It's already there. And they control it, which in many cases, the history of these communities is they did not have any control over their energy. It was provided by somebody else, and they were at their mercy. So this is a different paradigm for them. We provide a significant reduction to their environmental risk. And that's not just in terms of the noise from diesel or the emissions from diesel, but as I mentioned, reducing the risk of fuel spills. And it creates local, sustainable economic development. Because what we do is we train the people how to operate and maintain these systems themselves. So they have to, it puts people to work, and they're working locally. We buy locally to the maximum extent possible. So it does create economic development. And it's not thousands of jobs in a community like this, but we found in Eastport, Maine, when we did our title project there in 2012 and 2013, creating 10 or 15 jobs in Eastport, that's like creating 1,000 jobs in Boston. So it's a big impact. And another great thing that we found out, it turns out that our power systems have no known impact on the environment. We have monitored all of our installations extensively. It's been done by third parties, whether it's the University of Maine or the University of Washington or independent consultants. We have hours and hours of video and reams and reams of data. And through all of this, there's not been one known fish mortality. So, and by the way, these projects are all monitored by all of the agencies, federal and state agencies. So US Fish and Wildlife, NOAA, National Marines Fisheries, Army Corps of Engineers, you name it, they're all involved as well as in Maine, the Department of Environmental Protection, in Alaska, it's Alaska Fish and Game. We have to put reports together and they have to sign off on them. And they have signed off that there are no known adverse impacts. So that's been very encouraging. I can't say that they'll never, ever be a fish injury, who knows, but the one thing we do know is that this is environmentally not a risky proposition. Our project, Niki Agaeng, I'm gonna show you a video of it in a minute. While we were, we deployed during the peak of the salmon run, almost 2 million salmon went by our device and not one injury. So let me tell you about the technology a little bit. All of our systems are kind of the core technology is what we call our turbine generator unit. We, belovedly call it our TGU. So we developed this TGU, it's patented. And the neat thing about it is you can make it bigger to use in tidal situations, you can make it smaller to use in rivers because there's just not the space in a river. But it is truly unique that you can see the turbines, they kind of look like paddle wheels that have been twisted. And in fact, if you looked at one of those foils on the turbines, it looks just like an airplane wing. And that's because it operates on the same principle. The moving water impacts the foil, gives it lift, it rotates, turns the generator, generates electricity, and then it comes to shore through a power cable. So the interesting thing is you look at this, there's only one moving part. It happens to be a big moving part, it's all the turbines, the shaft, and the generator moving, but there's no gears. So there's only one moving part, so that means lower maintenance costs. The other interesting thing is you look at this, it's kind of very wide and not very tall. So immediately you can see where you can get this in some fairly shallow water. So versus other competitors that are in our industry, we're able to utilize sites that are shallower than pretty much anybody else in the industry. And it also, these turbines, believe it or not, it doesn't matter whether the water is going into it or we're coming back through it, they always rotate in the same direction. And it sounds counterintuitive, but they always rotate in the same direction. So it's ideal for tidal, because all you have to do is put it in the water, and it doesn't matter whether it's the eb tide or the flood tide, it always rotates in the same direction. There's no mechanical reposition you need it. So we've developed two applications. One for tidal, we call TyGen, it's a registered trademark name. You can see it on the left, this is the latest version of it. It's essentially a TGU that has a buoyancy component on the top of it and is held in place with a tension mooring line. And depending on the water flow, one of those devices can generate up to 600 kilowatts. On the right is the latest version of our RivGen power system for rivers, much smaller system, 35 to 50 kilowatts, but it's about less than a quarter of the size of the other one. And all of these can be deployed as single devices or you can put several in an array and then connect them all under water and bring the power to shore. In all of our systems, there's nothing visible. There's no visual impacts, there's no view shed issues. So when we were in the water in Eastport in 2012 and 2013, people would call and say, hey, I want to come and see your project. And I said, well, that's great, but you're just going to be looking out on a bay, you're not going to see anything. So that's a great feature of our technology is there are no visual impacts. And we're utilizing land under water that really isn't being utilized. So there's not an impact on land use as well. The technology is great, but you also have to be able to execute. And I'm proud to say we've done 11 very complex first-of-a-kind marine testing and demonstration projects on tidal and river sites in Maine and Alaska. We have gone through all the highly complex regulatory processes. In fact, we've turned that into a competitive advantage in our collaborative approach with the agencies. We deal with the fishermen. Now, there's a group of individuals, rugged individuals, they're wonderful, the fishermen are. And we've gotten through it. In fact, we were cited by the Maine Ocean Energy Task Force as the model for energy development on the coast. And a lot of you don't know this, but Maine made history in 2012. Our project that we did in Eastport it was the first ocean energy project of any type that includes offshore wind, wave, thermal, what's called OTAC, any type of electricity generated from the ocean. This was the first one anywhere in the Americas to deliver power to a utility grid. So we sold the power to the New England ISO. And that was a historic event in 2012. And then our Iggy Agig project, we completed it in 2015. That was a demonstration project. This is the remote community in Alaska. When we were online, we were providing about a third of their energy needs. Again, it was a collaboration with the Iggy Agig Village Council and the Alaska Energy Authority. So that was a situation where you bring both government and community together for the greater good of the community. And next summer, we will be putting our first commercial unit in Iggy Agig. So with that, I hope I can, I wanna show you a video. This was a great video done by the CBS affiliate in Anchorage on this project. Susie Kistus, she's still here. No, we provided them the video, but they did this great. It looks like an infomercial, but we had nothing to do with it. The power of ideas. Can they rescue rural Alaska from some of the highest energy costs in the nation? Well, Alaska is rich in renewable energy resources, but there are also lots of challenges to tackle. America is full of dreamers. We push new frontiers by choice. That's what makes us Americans. Well, the president enjoyed the hospitality of Alaskans. He also acknowledged rural Alaska's energy challenges. So we're gonna deploy more new clean energy projects on native lands. And that's gonna reduce dependence on fossil fuels, promote new jobs, and new growth in your communities. The motto of Alaska is North to the Future. At the International Glacier Conference, the Secretary of State gave a shout out to the Bristol Bay Village of Iggy Agig for its innovation. Iggy Agig just wrapped up a demonstration project which uses river currents to generate power. These are the kinds of creative solutions that will enable Arctic communities to endure and to thrive in the future without having to rely on dirtier and ultimately destructive sources of power. The project is a collaboration between Iggy Agig and the Ocean Renewable Power Company. They've dubbed it RIVGEN. The fast currents of the Quee Jack River are ideally suited for power generation and its clear waters also made it easier to monitor the fish, which is hard to do elsewhere. But the data collected so far shows that there seems to be no impact. Company believes this project also has applications for tidal power. There's some significant tidal opportunities. The one we're looking at very closely is the community of False Pass and the Aleutians. And they have a wonderful resource there. So will the president's visit lead to more energy projects to help ease rural Alaska's hunger for affordable energy? I know that I've been in conversations with key staff members from the White House in the last few days. I think his trip here to Alaska really has brought a lot of high-powered attention to what the needs of the state are. Rural Alaskans pay some of the highest cost per kilowatt hour in the nation. The average cost for communities on the higher end of the spectrum is about 70 cents, four times what Anchorage pays at 16 cents per kilowatt hour. We believe that affordable energy is the underpinning of every sustainable community and every sustainable enterprise. And you can't do it with 48 and 58 cent power. In Iggy Agig, the cost per kilowatt hour is close to a dollar because the community is dependent on expensive diesel fuel to run its power plant. But there are hopes that tapping the river's energy will help change this. When RIVGEN is online, it provides about a third of the community's power needs. Rhonda McBride, KTVA 11 News. Anyway, so thank you for going through this with me. And I would love to answer any questions you may have. Yes, ma'am. Talk more about Eastport, what happened since in 2012, I think you said? Yeah, we were most active there during 2012 and 2013 in Copt Cook Bay. We continue to use Copt Cook Bay as a kind of a test center. So we have done other smaller projects there, not generating power to the grid, but other projects. We are planning a project now in probably the second quarter of 2020. We'll be going back with essentially a redesign of our original design. Both our project in Eastport and in Iggy Agig were great. They worked. It absolutely proved that our systems work, but they had a couple of problems. They were too expensive. And we had some nagging little issues that you would expect with a first of a kind project, things like bolted connections coming undone, things like that. So we have spent the last three and a half years going through a complete optimization of our design. And I'm happy to say we have reduced the cost by more than 50% and we've increased the performance by about 50%. So that new design, the first production unit of that new design, we plan to install in Eastport in 2020. And then the hope is that soon after that, we can eventually build up to a five megawatt project in not in Cobb's Cook Bay, but on the other side of Eastport in Western Passage, which as you may know is right on the border with New Brunswick. Yes, sir? Restrictions around the area around those units, lots of new fishermen, do they have to stay away here? The, no, they don't have to stay away. They obviously can't drop anchors there. They can't do dragging there. But traversing back and forth over this, there's no restriction. So basically the Coast Guard is obviously involved in all of what we do. There's a, if you look at a map of Cossack Cook Bay, you'll see our site plotted on the Coast Guard maps. And it's basically called an exclusion zone so that you can go over it, but you can't drop any anchors or you can't do any dragging there. And as you may know, Cobb's Cook Bay is one of the premier scallop resources on the East Coast, really, their scallops are amazing. We worked very closely with the fishermen and we found there were areas in the bay that were highly prized and we are deal with the fishermen and we would not go there. But there were other areas of the bay that they didn't really care about that much and so that's what we looked at. And in fact, the site that we used was a site that was identified to us by the fishermen as an area that they don't care that much about. It happened to have the best current in all of Cobb's Cook Bay, so it worked out very well. I'm wondering, is that thing heard in here in the colors that, you know, I understand that the electricity was underground to a power plant, but you could be some pain in the back when you heard the word, sort of.  The state of Maine established what was called the Ocean Energy Task Force. Back in 2010, essentially, during the Baldacci administration, they wanted to investigate the potential opportunities for ocean energy and they identified Tidal as one of those opportunities, so there were incentives put in place. They offered basically a five megawatt contract people could bid to build a Tidal project that would reach capacity of five megawatts and we won that. So we have a long-term power purchase agreement. The price is not yet at the point that we can put our system in and make money, so obviously we can't get investors to invest in a project that doesn't make money, so that's part of the whole thing we're going through now with this, we call version 2.0 of our design, is to reduce costs to the point where we can then, in fact, build that project and get a return on investment for investors. By the way, during that project, one of the great stories of that project is our supply chain extended to 14 of Maine's 16 counties, meaning we had suppliers or service providers or contractors in 14 of the 16 counties. We've invested, at this point, probably close to $40 million in the state we've created during the peak of that project, we created more than 100 jobs, so all of that was looked at originally as part of the allure of doing title energy, and it turned out to be true. Yes, Sarah, in the back? You, yeah. No, no, Sarah. I was just wondering, why did you try out for-profit company, but can you still get foundation grants? It seems like the population you're trying to serve, that there ought to be some pretty big foundations out there that would want to support something especially during the peak of that project. Yeah, it's interesting. Foundations donate money to non-profits, typically, okay? And we originally, we started our company as a for-profit. We haven't turned a profit yet, but someday. But Tesla hasn't turned a profit either, they've been around longer than us, so. So foundations are very kind of narrow in their scope of what they'll donate money to, and we just don't really fit that, which is a shame, because you think that they would be interested in doing that. That's the bad news. The good news is that there are groups out there that they're what they call impact investors that are looking to invest in something new that they're gonna get a return on their investment, but they're gonna get more than that. They're gonna do some good for the world. They're gonna do something to combat climate change. They're gonna help indigenous communities. So there are a lot of these investors around. They're typically what they call family offices, which are families that have accumulated wealth over the years, and they create up an investment arm. And so they fill that gap between philanthropy, which would be the foundations, and venture capitalists, or what we call vulture capitalists, they fill a niche. And in fact, our company has been sustained primarily by two family offices that they're amazing people. I mean, they put a lot of money into the company. They're still our biggest fans, even though we haven't returned any of their investment yet. They still believe in our mission. So those are the kind of investors that we deal with. And just to give you rough numbers, we've raised about $90 million to date. About roughly 50 of that has been private investment, primarily family offices. The other has been government, various government grants. And we've gotten money from the European Union, from Canada, US Department of Energy, where we've gotten more money from US DOE than any other company in our business, almost 26 million. So DOE has been good to us. And we're kind of the poster child for how do you take public money that's put in through DOE, and then raise the private capital to match that. That's the secret in an industry that we exist, because we're still considered too risky for a typical investor. Yes, ma'am? So assuming that these remote places have inexpensive power, what kind of industries could they do for how they create jobs? Yeah, well, that's a great question. I'll explain the long-term vision for these remote communities. I mean, the sad thing is that they sit on, some of them sit on amazing resources. I can tell you this community, Kuzhwak, which, by the way, is a town of almost 3,000 people. And so it's not a village. It's a fully functioning community. They sit on an amazing resource. But right now, they use diesel to generate electricity. They also use diesel to heat. And in fact, it's about 50-50. So they use as much diesel to heat as they do to generate electricity. But if you have affordable, renewable energy, you displace the diesel that's used for electricity, you eliminate that, but then you can convert the heat to high-efficiency electric heating, and you'll completely eliminate the need for diesel. What will happen is new industries that can then spring up, as an example, they can do greenhouses. All it takes is energy. I mean, energy is that essential part of life that you can't exist without. And if you have an abundant supply of it, you can do a lot of things. You could use renewable energy as an example to create hydrogen, and these places could be using hydrogen-powered vehicles. So they would be zero emission vehicles. By the way, right when I was in Kuzhwak, a gallon of gas was about eight or nine dollars. So there's a vision of this that if you have a big enough renewable resource, these could become zero emission communities. So they could thrive through their own agriculture and other means. Yes, ma'am. We're not big enough for them to worry about yet. They're not really worried about us. There is a concern, as an example, in Nunavik. We're working with the largest Inuit company. It's a company that was established under the St. James Bay Settlement Act back in the 70s. So they represent all the Inuits. There's another cooperative that's a similar company that provides all the diesel fuel. So they stand to lose. But amazingly, they have decided that rather than fight it, they want to join it. So they've now created a new joint venture with this other Inuit company to be part of what we're doing. So for us, it's tremendous because these people have been, they know all the logistics of these communities. They know how to deliver things and how to do things in these communities. So it really brings a lot to the table. And that's why working with the communities is so essential. There are so many untapped resources that you wouldn't think about that are there. Their knowledge of the water and all the logistics involved. So that's our plan, is to bring these people into it. But Big Oil isn't gonna worry about us because they really don't care about remote communities. They're looking at the lower 48 states, as they say in Alaska. They're looking at the big ticket items and we're not even approaching that yet. Yes, ma'am. I just wanna know, is there something you would do right now? There is, part of the original project is still there and we use it for research purposes. But there is nothing, no generating equipment in the water today. We hope to have that in second quarter of 2020. It's turning to the final one, he said. And when that goes in, will that be generating to the grid? That will be generating to the grid, initially in Cops Cook Bay and then we're gonna move it over to Western Passage and that's when we hope to build out that project after that. So it'll be the mid-2020s. The big thing, of course, is being able to secure the investment. That's the toughest part. John, you had a question earlier. The project is going, how much power would it give for it to be in the future? Yeah. The five megawatt project that we hope to do in Eastport would almost supply all the electricity for Washington County, 28,000 people. There are a couple of components that are highly proprietary, very specialized components like the generator. It's called a permanent magnet generator. It's not like a normal generator you would think about. So it's a very highly specialized field and that is being supplied by a supplier actually in Norway. Not Norway main, but the country Norway. The turbines we actually had, our initial supplier was in Rhode Island but we're now out for bids and we're considering suppliers from Ireland, Canada and the US. The rest of the system is mostly fabricated steel and other machine components and we buy them locally. So if we do a project in Maine, it's done in Maine. We try to maximize the amount of content in our project that's done locally. That's again, part of our value proposition. So what we do in Canada will be done in Canada. What we do in the US will be done here. Alaska, we have a supply chain actually established in Alaska for that project. So that's how we do it. Sir. How long you had the video there that submarine looking at least one type of piece of land? Is that part of the unit that goes down? Yeah, yeah, it's... For maintenance and why not? Yeah, it's an interesting design because it looks like a TGU sitting on a pontoon boat, basically. The pontoons are ballast tanks. So it's actually deploys itself. The way we do it is we put the anchor in first and the nice thing about rivers, typically this river anyway, it only flows one direction. You put the anchor in, you assemble the device on the shore, you pull it out with a fishing boat, hook it up to the anchor. So it's sitting on top of the water. It rides very nicely on the water. In fact, it makes a great maintenance platform. We've done that. And then when you want to deploy it, we actually have tubes that go to the pontoons, the ballast tanks, and then we flood one side. And you notice that one point in the video, it was sitting like this. The one side touches down and then we put water in the other tank and it sets down and then it's fully deployed. It takes about a half hour from beginning to end to actually deploy it or to retrieve it. Any more questions? Joni, questions? The one time I thought, now this will take any other energy to make up. It's just the flow of the water. So, I mean, so many things to get energy to make electricity, you have to use other energy. Yeah, now it's just the flow of the water and there are no liquids, so there's no chance of any spills of anything. The bearings we use are what are called lubricated, water lubricated bearings, there's no grease. Yeah, so it's environmentally pretty benign. Can you add to the original unit that's designed in place? All of a sudden, you've got building growth going on on land. Can you tie up all of these into it? Yeah, yeah, we typically, the plan is, for instance, the project in Eastport, the five megawatt project, will probably be 12 to 14 of our units. And then we have an umbilical cord from each of those that comes to an underwater, we call a consolidation pod, where we basically plug into an underwater box and then there's a single, from there a single line that comes ashore. And the cables are actually bundled cables. It's a combination of the power cable, the transmission cable, with the data cable. There's a lot of data and control systems involved in this, it's amazing, you look at this, it's kind of like a car today, when you open up the hood, in the old days, you opened up the hood of the car and you saw the motor, right? Now you open up the car and you see all the electronics and you wonder if there's actually a motor in there somewhere. Well, this is actually a lot like that. The electronics involved with this is absolutely amazing. It's, in fact, still advancing. So, the data cables are very important as well. So we bundle them together into one cable and bring it to shore, but you can put any number of units in the water. Yes ma'am? My friend is from Nova Scotia, so I'm used to going around and facing the seas, tie up the forest. Some of them are really, really powerful. Can you overwhelm us? Yeah, yeah, we're actually very familiar with Nova Scotia. What part of Nova Scotia are you from? Well, my family's from Canada, which is at the very tip of the bay, but the actor curves around, next to the last town, 14. Yeah, okay, because in the Southwest, Nova Scotia, there's, in Digby, in that area, there's some tremendous tidal currents. The Bay of Fundy is world-renowned for its title. They say they have the largest title differential in the world, and actually that's not true. The Northern part of Nunavik has a higher differential. But nobody really lives there, there's a village there, but so they didn't get their PR done right. But no, you're right, there are the tidal currents in what's called the upper minus basin, they can reach 14 knots, which is ridiculous. And there are people in our industry that are targeting their systems for that, but you can imagine the stresses on a system. We took a different approach.  So we took a different approach, and we optimized our design around a much lower flow velocity, which means lower cost because you don't have to have the same structural support, et cetera. So instead of 12 to 14 knots, we're targeting four to six knots. That opens up most of the world, honestly. There are hundreds and hundreds of sites around the world that meet that criteria. So that was a little different approach that we took. Ultimately, we will be in the Bay of Fundy, but we won't be in the upper minus basin. We'll be in places like Digby in Southwest because the currents there are much more in tune with our design.