Hey, what's up guys Drew here that anxiety guy calm once again, but except today I am joined by a special guest my new friend Kimberly Quinlan Kim is host of the anxiety toolkit podcast which just gets rave reviews from anybody. I ever heard that mentions it So Kim, thank you for taking the time To come on today. I really appreciate it. Of course. I'm happy to be here. Kimberly is an OCD specialist she's a therapist that's practicing in California here in the US of A and why don't you take a few seconds and give us an idea of where you're coming from and and what you do and and You know just kind of background and what's going on sure well I have the awesome job of being an OCD specialist or an anxiety specialist here in California I see clients in my private practice and Basically, what that means is I get to teach people how to face their fears Which is a wonderful job because even though it's scary for the person doing it they end up coming out on the other end so empowered and Feel like they finally got a grasp on how to manage their anxiety So there's the private practice piece and then I also have for those who don't have access to a therapist Which is a lot of people because unfortunately There are very few therapists who understand how to treat OCD I also have online programs for people who don't have access to therapy and that's more in the terms of Invited courses and OCD courses. Yeah, we talked about that a little bit and for you Unfortunately, we should probably address this right away Not being licensed outside of California You want to talk about that a little bit because I know you're gonna get contact that I know you well Well, and that was my dilemma. So like I said, I'm so blessed to work with the clients that I have but unfortunately I'm only legally allowed to treat people in California or within a country that allows me to treat them Basically, what that means is they're an unregulated Tele-therapy country now the problem with this is people were contacting me saying please I live in this state and I have to drive three hours To a therapist and even then they don't really get it and and please what can you do to help me? And I was feeling so sad because I literally had no place to turn them to like I couldn't even refer them to a Sort of good option. So that was the reason why I created the courses Which is basically the first five courses for sessions I would have with a client on teaching them what exposure therapy looks like what they need to be doing what they Need to be putting on make sense. Cool. Great story. Well, I'm happy that you took the time today Because as we talked about in our previous discussion a lot of the folks that are listening today that follow my podcast my videos into the Facebook group Are deal with some measure of OCD Usually the discussion centers around intrusive thoughts more so than those Compulsions that everybody hears about like handwashing and checking and things of that are counting But it's mainly intrusive thoughts and they often come along with that larger anxiety complex Panic disorder with or without agoraphobia Sometimes general anxiety disorder and it is a tremendous topic of discussion in my community But okay, so I understand if I'm afraid to drive the type of exposures I need to do to get back in the car and face my panic But how do I deal with these thoughts that won't turn off? And I think that's pretty much a bunch of people did ask in my Facebook group And if you're watching you're not in the group, I'll put a link in the description Go ahead and join everybody's welcome, but all the questions that were asked and I'm going to scroll while we do this Are almost all the same they're asking you about different thoughts Some people are focused on a fear of death. Some people are focused on a terrible accident. You understand They're all irrational and obsessive thoughts that people are having a hard time controlling So we'll we'll talk to about a few specific ones, but maybe we should talk about that in general And in my community we we deal a lot with with actually an australian dr. Claire weeks I don't know if you're familiar with Claire weeks and uh and her work Uh, but we we talk a lot about that stuff and that floating and facing and accepting and you know Kind of the basis of the exposure and facing the fear, but that doesn't necessarily apply Exactly when it comes to Cognitive behaviors like intrusive and obsessive thinking am I correct? Right, so the thing to first remember about OCD is no matter what the topic OCD has chosen We do treat them all the same And the way that we really in an easy way to understand OCD is that there's always it starts with what it will be either an intrusive thought Or an intrusive sensation It could be an intrusive Emotion right maybe guilt or shame or you know something like that Or in addition something that doesn't get it talked about a lot would be an intrusive urge Which would be this urge like you're going to do something dangerous So you're going to do lose control When you have that it's uncomfortable. Nobody likes it It's a horrible feeling and naturally our instinct is to run away from it Do something to make it go away to control it And what we want to do is we want to first really look at the concept around OCD and remember that The thought is not actually the problem. The problem is how we react to that thought I told you we speak the same language And so it's important for people to know often we get really caught up in like What does it mean about me if I'm having an intrusive thought about harming someone or or doing some terrible action or some very You know graphic thought What does that mean and the important thing is again as I said is to not focus on the content of your thoughts But instead to really look at how am I reacting to this thought? And how is that reaction actually cycling us back into the cycle to have more of those thoughts Not that it's anybody's fault or that you're you're causing them But it's it's true how we react to our experience can change how the brain reacts to it in the future Yeah I find that people are so when you're dealing with things like agoraphobia Where somebody develops a fear of being out of the house or even in a specific room in their house They're always afraid of how they're going to feel in that situation and those are easier They're often externalized even though we talk all the time about how it's really your reaction That's causing this. It's not the room or the supermarket. But when it's thoughts, I think it becomes harder because you cannot externalize You know, there's no outside influence there. This is things in my own head that I'm having a hard time dealing with You know and how do I deal with that? So You're I like the idea where it's the reaction to the thought But we have to go past the idea that you just have to and there's a lot of discussion about this Are you just supposed to accept them? Are you supposed to just let them be there? Am I supposed to distract myself? We have people who swear that meditation is the way to go with this so many different things But it's an active process, isn't it? This is not a sit back and just ignore them thing There's work to actually do isn't there absolutely, absolutely So I think the main thing to remember is metaphorically. It's how you greet the thought So if you let's say metaphorically a heart of your horrible neighbor comes to your door And you open the door and slam the door in its face Your neighbor's going to be a little upset with you or you know raise some some trouble It the same goes with intrusive thought So I think the first step is always to really address how you're greeting or welcoming this thought into your day So an important thing to remember here is an actual tool that we use in therapy It's actually derived from acceptance and commitment therapy Which is the the technique or tool of learning how to observe a thought Instead of fuse with a thought Right, so the work here is being able to notice Oh, I'm having a thought about I'm gonna like use triggering words But I'm having a thought about killing my husband Or I'm having a thought about that accident happening or if you have health anxiety It might be I'm having a thought about getting cancer and dying So it's first being able to observe and diffuse from those thoughts Again, that's sort of how you greet it That in and of itself can be enough for some people But if you're really stuck and let's say you've been dealing with this and you've been reacting to it for some time That probably won't be enough and you will need to engage in exposure and response prevention Which is a specific type of cognitive behavioral therapy All of what I'm talking about here is scientifically proven like none of this has been pulled out of my back pocket right And so exposure and response prevention to thoughts Would be around what we would write an imaginal or a script about that terrible thought coming true And then I would actually have you play around with it in creative ways So let's say if you were afraid of harming someone if you were my client And this is what I teach in the course as well is I would have you write this terrible Horrible story. I get you like it's horrible and I I want to always preface it with you know, this is not easy work I always make the joke with people is you should not want to see me If you want to see me. I'm doing something wrong, right? Because you're gonna make them do this hard Exactly in the kindest way possible. I I want you not to look forward to seeing me And so we would write those scripts But then let's say like I said if you had a fear of harming, I might have you walk around the streets with a pocket knife Right, or I might have you listen to fans of gunshots or I might have you You know, we can get really creative. This is why I love my job Like kind of statistic in a way and that we get to come up with very creative ways to have fun with fear And ultimately through that process You're basically showing fear that You're going to bring it on And you're showing fear that I'm going to stare you down and we're going to have the staring down contest, right? And I'm going to win Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's just the same that we talk about in dealing with a panic attack Same exact thing. So it's experiential learning when you when you stare it down and nothing actually happens You've taught your brain. Oh, I didn't have to fear that thought Right, or even if something does happen that you can handle it, right? Like even if you know, if you someone has a really bad fear of of having an accident You know, I'm not going to tell someone to purposely rear in somebody's car as an exposure But if for any reason they do it our work here with fear Isn't just about proving it won't happen. It's about proving that we can handle and master any emotion That rises when things get difficult Well, I think we I see two different things actually two or three different things that come up a lot And in the questions that were posted when I told people I would be talking to you Generally speaking health anxiety is huge. So the fear there is And the overriding question is no matter how many times the doctor tells me that I'm fine And the 50 different tests I've had and the 16 specialists have all told me I'm fine I still won't believe it. What do I do? There's that one And then there so there are rational or things that can actually happen. You can have a car accident. That's true You know, so you can get sick. It's possible. You can get sick But then there are also thoughts about completely irrational things that simply will not happen and people can't let go of those But I'm guessing that the the process is the same We often talk about learning to identify when those thoughts happen. Oh, this is one of those Now how do I greet it? Like you said, you know, how do I react to it? How do I interact with it? We talk about not getting into an internal dialogue with it because you you'll never win the argument What if what if always wins? So people the overriding question is how do I answer? What if what if always wins? But you could teach people how to not let what if when that's an actual skill that they can learn. I'm guessing Well, it's basically through the lens and the practice of being uncertain The only way to trump OCD is through uncertainty to be okay with uncertainty Because think it through and this is how tricky OCD is. So let's say you have health anxiety You go to the doctor. He says nothing is wrong.   Are you sure? Right. Oh Right and and he can OCD and anxiety can pull out the are you sure card anytime And the own right and so the thing for us to work in is to lean in and be like, you know what? I actually don't I don't want to know anymore.  That's the one thing that will get you through So the answer to the question is it's through the practice of uncertainty Now what I tell people in my office? In and in the courses as well is I want you to think of uncertainty like a very weak muscle in your body And the only way to strengthen it is by practicing it just like doing push-ups or bicep curl You can't expect uncertainty to work if you haven't practiced it a lot And so if you're faced with a problem or an or a Thought or a fear or a sensation or an urge you have to ask yourself Am I going to pick this up with my compulsive arm or am I going to pick this up with my uncertain? Whichever one you pick it up with is the one that will get stronger And and the goal here is to get an uncertainty arm that's so strong that it becomes the habit You know, we're very much habits of creatures of habit So if you're used to picking up things with a compulsion You you know in you know what it's like when you're anxious It's hard to think through things you can't think rationally your limbic brain winning So it's about the work here is working while you're anxious and while you're not anxious that's strengthening that uncertainty muscle And strengthening those the uncertainty muscle, which I really love actually like that concept When and we talk a lot of times in my community about I've actually said things like positive self-talk is bullshit In the middle of things because you can't argue with your limbic brain In the midst of it.  So I agree with what you're saying, but I always always sort of Make a point in that the limbic part of our brain the anxious part of our brain that gets lit up when we have fear Is is built to prepare us to run That's what it's actually for So there will never be a day where you naturally want to be uncomfortable and naturally want to be You're always default to running away. That's just the human brain. Thank goodness. We're grateful for that part of the brain So but but the practice is with enough practice of being uncertain You will actually connect to the limbic brain with more of that upper higher part of the brain The more higher functioning part of the brain or the prefrontal cortex and that will step in sooner than what it would If you hadn't practiced that uncertainty So I I'm I'm just being picky with that because I don't want people to think that They'll one day always have that as being their normal response. That makes sense Yeah, that does make sense because then it's practice like anything else the more you do it the better you'll get at it But it's it's this is practice doing hard things and facing these thoughts and welcoming them Welcoming them in and people go down that road.  I talk to somebody they get out of their own head and suddenly everything seems to be better Which is great except what happens when you can't color So I don't know how does that play in in your practice and what you're teaching people And I would think with thoughts distraction is a huge strategy for I'm guessing many people They just want to distract or drown them out Sometimes you can't drown them out and what happens you're not actually building resiliency and skills if you just Run from them and distract. I'm guessing Right. Well the science behind this is a concept of what we call thought suppression So what we know in science is that if I put you in a room Um, and I put you a little on a table.  Yeah, the people that aren't supposed to Right, right exactly because the act of trying not to think about something is the action of thinking about it Correct, right. Yes. So thought suppression never works Never work Right. Um, and so we definitely don't want to do that now Distraction is a tool that is used in Dialectical behavioral therapy. That's mostly for people who have such strong emotions that they are self-harming suicidal Going to make very poor decisions for themselves and their health And so distraction has been a good tool for people who are really heightened But the problem was if even though with people with anxiety are technically very heightened The distraction ends up acting as a thought suppression, right? So it's not effective It's really confusing because people see people talking about destruction But it's actually this is where john hershfield a very good friend of mine Who's written a lot of books on ocd always says That's for them not for me, right Distraction is good for other people But not for the person or the brain with ocd right the same as as you go into a hospital There's always going to be like the antibacterial white Things that's good for everyone who doesn't have ocd, but if you have contamination, that's really not for you Right. Yeah, right. That makes sense. Yes. That actually so what we do is we practice Allowing the thought But you don't have to sit there and just think about the thought You can then engage in activities, but the thought comes with you So you might say something along the lines of high thought about killing people or whatever it is Yeah, I really need to go get the groceries Why don't you and I come and go get groceries together? And if you want to show up you can show up whenever you want I know that you've got a lot to say, but let's go get the groceries Let's go. Yeah Right. Yeah. So in other words, it's not that's a different reaction as opposed to oh, no, here it is Let me sit down and have a chat with it all day long. It's it's a slightly different thing Um, this balance between you're you're allowing it, but you're also not engaging with it the whole time It's sort of the metaphor of you can come but you can sit in the back seat You're not telling me where to drive. Yeah, exactly chat if you might and maybe I'll listen or maybe I won't We sometimes use the analogy of the infant screaming in your face or the toddler that really wants ice cream And every parent has done this you let them scream and ignore them That same thing that no matter how much it screams in your face. Just keep doing what you're doing Let it let it scream. Yeah, exactly So these are all really valuable things and and some I was just scrolling through some of the questions that came up And like I said, they're all along the same lines for the most part Very few people at least in my community seem to deal with actual physical compulsions Like checking or tapping or any of those things. It seems to all be cognitive So I think we've covered a lot of that To a sense But one of them came up and yes health anxiety is uncertainty Existential and death anxiety certainty like yes, we're all gonna go today is not that day or maybe it is who knows right but One person asked, uh, it's that whole be gentle to yourself thing and we talked about this in relation to overcoming panic disorder and agoraphobia Give yourself the space. How far should you go? A lot of times the gentle approach sometimes backfires and creates so much space In my head that I have this endless loop of ruminating So I think this is this the topic that comes up all the time when we're talking about physical exposures And that whole like, oh, I know it was hard. It's okay. Be kind to yourself like have a cup of tea You don't have to do it today. No, no, you do have to do it today So do the same rules kind of apply in your situation Like you don't get to take I always tell people there's no days off until you know that there's a day off Like there's no day off because you want a day off. You'll know when it's time for there There's no days off from this. So do you find that you're in the same boat with your clients or? Right. I really yes, absolutely. Not only my clients myself included like just the real um, I I had a really wonderful conversation with christa neff who is the Very very well known researcher in the in the area of self-compassion And the way that she frames it and the new research about that which is so awesome Is we've misunderstood self-compassion and self-care as only doing gentle slow Things like right about having a bath and candles and fair and cotton candies and backing away from challenge Yes, yes, but that is one component of self-compassion There are two and it's what they call it is the yin and the yang of self-compassion So the yin is that very maternal like how can I hold you in close to my heart kind of thing? Which is very important particularly given that intrusive thoughts usually come with a ton of shame right, but there's also the yang of self-compassion or self-care which is Doing the thing that will propel you to actually live the life you want The most the self-care isn't just sitting on the couch self-care is sometimes doing the really hard thing and you're doing it because you want long term happiness and joy and pleasure and and and wonderful experiences But the thing to remember is ERP and so all of the work I do must have both And I tell people it's a it's a flow So you you'll flow in and out of yin and yang and you'll do an exposure And then you'll be gentle and then you'll lean back in and then and so it's this flow that we have to get into But both needs to be there Often it's the you have to do the stuff when you most don't want to do the stuff That's the time to do it. So I would imagine the same rules apply in your sphere, which is great Um, we've been going for about 25 minutes. I don't want to go too much longer So I don't want to take up too much of your time and um, we can go for hours and hours on this I think but social anxiety also seems to have a big obsessive component. It appears Um with some of my people they they get obsessed with those things that feed into those feelings of rejection and inadequacy And I'm checking my phone eight zillion times to see if that person finally responded to my text Because if they don't I feel a certain way So do you find that there's a big connection there social anxiety comes Yeah, the the obsessive parts of social anxiety same rules apply. I'm guessing like you said same rules always apply The same rules apply. I think that the thing to remember with social anxiety is um, we actually do a small amount of cognitive therapy way less behavioral therapy um with um Then then icd treatment. Um, so sometimes we do sort of have to work through some often Um, ultimately errors in thinking around like, you know, that people will reject me if I'm sweating or so forth But think of that as one for me. It's one session. Maybe, you know with ocd I don't spend a ton of time correcting thoughts with people because that becomes a compulsion Um, so with social anxiety, we do sort of work through a couple of errors in thinking But then 100 we stare that fear down We you know, we walk across to the street where I have this awesome outdoor mall and we ask people for quarters and we You know, we ask to borrow pens and we give compliments and that's the work we do Yeah, which I'm guessing I know a few of the people that will be watching it sounds like their worst nightmare But but that's what you have to do do the things you don't want to do. Yeah. Yeah, this is so great So great, but um, do you have any So many people struggle for so long. They are not even aware what they have They don't know that these resources exist And let's talk for a second about how hard it is to find Not only an ocd specialist, which honestly, you're the first person that I've come across in my travels that That will say that you are an ocd specialist, which I really commend But just cognitive behavioral therapy and its variants in general So we're dealing with people many many times who have just been dealing with a general practitioner and a prescription pad or a psychiatrist and a prescription pad Or holistic medicine or all kinds of different things that for years on end So how would you find if you're in california? Somebody might be able to find you, but if you're somewhere else Resources, how do you go about finding this person? Absolutely. So the very first place to go is the international obsessive compulsive disorder foundation Um, you can go to i ocdf.org and what they have they have an a Directory of therapists who have training in erp but The thing is to remember for people and this is the main if you walk away with one message today this is The it's about the questions you ask Unfortunately the top by the time I see a client in my office. They're hopeless They've been told by multiple other therapists that I can help you I do cbt You know, and then I do I do I have there go through a year of therapy only to find out that that wasn't helpful And so the questions that you may want to ask the therapists on the intake are questions like do you know what erp is? Do you use exposure and response prevention? What is your training in exposure and response prevention if they don't know the answers to that right away? This is not good right now. There are I don't want to completely diss there are some therapists who let's say if you live in a State where there are one maybe two ocd therapists They might say I don't know what that is but let's you and I make sure we get resources And we'll go through this together given that I'm your only person. That's fine. There are workbooks that are very cheap There are resources like similar to what I've created that can help therapists become trained and therapists can become trained Through the iocdf and there's a certification there. Yeah, so make sure you ask the right questions That will save you tons of time Yeah, I was trying to remind people that in the end the therapist is working for you So you have to advocate for yourself and if you think those questions don't sound like the right answers And beware of the old. Oh, yeah, I I do anxiety. I have patients with anxiety. I'm sure you must hear too Yeah, yeah, I have patients with ocd too Right, right. It's like a very specialized thing to work on right It takes the average is seven to 14 years for someone with ocd to get the correct diagnosis and treatment That's horrendous. That's right. It's terrible So, you know, there's questions to ask and I'm so grateful that you know to be on here and help If anyone, you know has Yeah, just now in the early stages. Hopefully that gives them some resources to move to their great workbooks as well if you're You know, that's sort of more of what you're able to do or wanting to do Yeah, some people do like to work on their own if possible 30 seconds. Do you recommend it? I feel and what people are overcoming Things like panic disorder or phobia. I believe they they can often do it on their own If they have the right resources the workbooks they read they're in contact with people who are in the now ocd, can you tackle it on your own? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, is that going to be really hard? Yes. The problem is is that When you're in your own thoughts, it's hard to kind of call yourself out on your own bs, you know, I mean So it's harder, but it's doable people do it all the time and the cool thing is there are resources out there Like your podcasts and and and things like that that are support groups online support groups that can just help us along the way I'm a 100% believer that you can get better and live your best life I want to make sure I add that doesn't mean you won't have anxiety and that you won't have intrusive thoughts But you can live your best life That's why I want to make sure I say that because it's important to know But yes, I I have very much hope that people can get better and live their best life. That's great. Well Thank you so much for taking the time. I so appreciate it and maybe we'll get to do a few more of these at some point Any time give me your website is how do people get at you? So you can follow me on instagram. It's kimberley quinland. It's kimberley with an e k i m b l e y Or you can find me That's my australian Of word, um, but if you're interested in any of the online resources I have cbt school see cognitive behavioral therapy school.com. Yeah, it's great. I was on the site You have a lot of really good stuff there. So you guys check it out. All right. Thanks kim. I'll talk to you again soon All right. Thank you. I have to stop recording now the awkward part


All right All right, I think we're ready to go. Yeah. Hi everybody. My name is Peter pull out and I work on OpenStack at Microsoft Alexander I work at clubby solutions the company doing all the integration between Microsoft technologies and OpenStack Great. I'm so pleased to have a packed house today with Everybody here in Tokyo. So thank you for coming out to listen to us talk before I begin I'd like to ask a couple questions First off, how many people in here have already used Windows with OpenStack today? That is awesome sweet. Wow awesome. Yeah, I don't even know where to that's a that's a big house I don't remember. I'm overwhelmed by seeing that many hands raised you you have to Every summit we've been coming to for quite a while now. We've slowly watched those hands progress So yeah, how many of you using hyper V in OpenStack? We're still progressing at this one. Awesome. I'll take it. All right So today we're gonna talk about a few things regarding the technologies that we've enabled in OpenStack for Basically the integrations that were enabled for Windows and OpenStack So Specifically, we're gonna start the agenda with Windows as a guest. Okay. You want to say two words about the screen over there Oh, well, I'll let you say it because that's okay So as you notice you see those logos there so OpenStack plus Windows equals love Okay So our goal here is to make sure that everything related to micro technology and OpenStack will work together in the best possible way So together with Peter, we started up a community which now it's already quite a few. Yes, right? Well Well from my perspective, I've been at this for well almost over four years now We've been working together for about three and a half. Yeah Yeah, basically from and things are growing a lot. So we have a Lot of people developing and working in a novel community. We have people working in Cinder, Manila, Silometer, so all basically all the major projects have people involved in it So it's it's great to see all the community working and if you guys also Willing to contribute let's say on every possible level from filing bugs down to documentation down of course the writing code We're more than happy to accept any any help Award on the agenda. Okay, so me so Windows as a guest Then a little bit of information about Windows licensing in OpenStack How many of you have absolutely clear how Windows licensing works in OpenStack? Exactly Hopefully we can shed some light for that. He templates and of course awards for Windows hypervisors meaning hyper B So Windows is a guest. All right So today we can consume Windows as a guest on top of OpenStack regardless of hypervisor technology used Okay, so KVM VMware all those things and we can assure that that guest experience is identical to Linux Okay, so we can take that image feed it into glance and and you should have the identical user experience for your Windows Guests that you have on Linux given the integrations that we've provided by working with cloud base So Today if you're going to use Windows on top of any hypervisor other than hyper V You're required to use a level of integration power virtualized device driver layer Okay today though that layer is built into Windows if you were to run a let's say Linux guest on top of hyper V You would need to utilize our Linux integration services for KVM You're required to use the vert IO drivers and there's an interesting circumstance that that is sort of a byproduct of the certification process at Microsoft which Add some complexity to that vert IO later and vert IO layer and we'll get into that a little bit later With VMware, you need to use the VMware tools and with Zen server and XEP You need to use this and server tools, okay, and generally speaking if you have hyper V It just works out of the box. Okay, that's a yep Yeah, but I just want to be clear We support Windows on any possible hypervisor supported in OpenStack So it doesn't have to be a hyper V only thing So of course it works in an easier way at least but any other hypervisor works Clarbase in it. How many of you are using it? Okay, how many of you know what it is? Okay, I Think the same people I might be so Cloud base in it is 100% Python code Okay, so and that's one of another thing that we wanted to make absolutely clear from the beginning when we started developing cloud base in it You wanted to make sure that any DevOps familiar with cloud in it was able to find that very similar environment also Windows So we prefer to use a Python code over dotnet code in this case Okay, not because there are not enough dotnet developers out there. Okay, but because Python is somehow The lingua franca. Okay in the moment in which it comes to coding. Okay, so if I may add something Yeah, just to be clear cloud base in it is our guest initialization layer for Windows, right? So the equivalent of cloud in it. Yeah and I don't know if you guys know this but we We reached let's say an agreement with the cloud in the community in which we merged the two projects Okay, and there's going to be a cloud in it version to which is the merit between the two code bases Okay, so between cloud base in it and the cloud in it to be one the reason why we didn't do a parting from the beginning Of cloud in it to windows is because cloud in it is very very Linux specific So it was simply impossible to do it Okay, so while cloud base in it was started from the beginning as a multi platform tool There are different companies which are using it already on different operating systems. So for example free bsd Solaris and so on. Okay, so the new cloud in it takes into consideration Of course, there's layers Let's say of abstraction over the operating system while taking all the goodies coming from cloud in it and cloud base in it At the same time and making a new project, which is dual licensed meaning that you can choose between gpl and Apache 2 Okay, it's a GP or So because another thing is that the cloud base in it is Apache 2 license So you can do whatever we do you want actually with a code based on the license it comes with an installer So it's very easy you take it you install it finished. Okay For the new nano server, we also provide the zip packages that can be used to deploy it also in an environment where MSIs can be used and of course it can be also fully automated So MSIs are basically the way are very roughly the micros of the equivalent of that packages or RPMs Okay, you can consider is the atomic way of deploying your package on on Windows, okay It can be of course via graphical user interface classical next next finish Okay, or it can be fully automated. For example as part of puppet manifest or whatever else, okay It comes with a lot of so-called plug-in models meaning actions that you can do on the operating system The most common are users in group management storage. For example, when you boot your instance Maybe you have any an image, which is I don't know 10 gigabyte and you have actually an image of flavor Which requires 20 of this so it will automatically expand the disk to reach that size, okay? It handles winner M winner M is basically the equivalent of open SSH in Microsoft context, okay So it takes care of creating a listener so you can directly use them HTTPS to manage your node Okay, as long as you have username and password and also it allows password less authentication be using x519 Certificates so now since kilo you can create keepers which can be either SSH keepers or x519 keepers, okay? And for Windows machines, you can use those to have a password less authentication very useful for automation for example, no licensing it takes care of Activating automatically your instance, okay? User data, that's most probably the most important part here You can run any power shall script as part of user data So whatever action you need to do on on the machine can be done via partial or we support also hit templates, okay? And we have also pretty big collection of hit templates both open source Available on the directly on the upstream open stack Heat templates project, okay, or as part of our commercial offers, okay, so we offer recover basically all the Microsoft related workloads from this perspective And then there are a ton of other Plug-in models for example setting them to you very important if you're using GRE or tunneling which requires you to have a Specific empty you size. Otherwise, you won't be able to handle the sedimentation of them Open with which level and some NTP to set the proper clock your local scrapes and a lot more Very important. We don't support only open stack We support well in open stack, of course open stack HTTP config drive Recently we added also support for config drive in ironic Meaning that you can do a bare metal deployment and have config drive, you know deployed as part Let's say as an as a partition inside of of your disk. Okay, if you target disk Amazon EC2 Cloud stack open a bola Ubuntu mass, which is one of our favorite Bare metal deployment solutions and so on. Okay, you can also specify multiple of them So which means that cloud business will simply try one after the other until it finds the right one So you can have a mean an image that will simply work on every possible type of cloud. Okay Now which supported Windows versions can you use with the open-stack technology that we have today, right? From a Windows client perspective. That's Windows 7 8 8 dot 1 10 in both x86 and x60. We forgot to put Windows Vista You know Windows server all the current platforms 2008 2008 R2 2012 2012 R2 x64 Windows server 2016 technical preview nano server 2016 and XP in 2003 Also functioning with card in it. I'm adding also a small thing on this for nano server 2016 fully supports Python 3 so we did a lot of work to make sure that Python was working on nano and Which means also that cloud business and the future cloud in it will work seamlessly on part of to Python 2 7 or Python 3 All right Now as a sage equivalent in Windows today We use what's called a when RM and WS man to remotely manage that box It allows us to essentially control over HEDP HBS It can be used to execute PowerShell And we can actually run commands directly from Linux So we have we can install those tools on Linux and then use Basically use it as a starting point for automation to automate our Windows hosts And if you want to see some configuration examples of that we have some scripts available on the cloud base GitHub repository site We have evaluation images anybody try to download evaluation images Okay, good. Nice. Okay We hear some complaints of course that the download might be a bit slow The the main issues that those images are like six gigabytes in size. Okay, so make sure that when you start the download Either use a browser that will enable you to to retry let's say the download and not restart from zero Okay, or make sure to keep sure to keep open also your session Okay, because in the the in order to download those images you need to accept a license So we cannot just provide you the direct link You need first to access the license at that point you get a session cookie with a token and with that token We can download the image what we're planning to do is to add also a command line tool Which will basically do the same thing the limitation with the license is simply due to the fact that Microsoft In order to allowing us to let you download those images is requiring that you accept that license. Okay We are I believe the only company ever was probably yep pretty much that now this happened I believe it was in Portland that yeah did that work. Yeah, it essentially that was the first Windows cloud appliance that I know of so and it was fully baked for open stack. Okay It comes also complete with our beautiful logo. Here's the auto by the way Okay, how to build an image obviously those are test images, okay We provide to our customers, of course as a service pre-built open-stack images tested with continuous integration and Updated every month with updates and son But we also want to make sure that the community can just rebuild the images with the same identical tools that we use. Okay Here is the repository where you can just download the tools it will automatically create the image for you Okay, there is an offline creation and then it will Boot the VM in order to run download all the windows updates and so on so open source You can just look on the slide deck actually for downloading. Okay, and now the hot topic now So licensing okay from a licensing perspective with Windows you have to utilize one of our existing licensing models, right? So from that standpoint if you already have existing Windows licenses that you're consuming those licenses can be used with open stack Okay, if you're doing a greenfield deployment, right then you can use either, you know any of our Current licensing models of volume licensing SPLA if you're a service provider, right? But essentially what it comes down to is your your best opportunity to get the most out of it is is essentially with using the data center SKUs and and Essentially what that does is it gives you unlimited guest access on top of that hypervisor, right? So what that means is and from a guess we're strictly talking about Windows guests The only time Microsoft charges you for that, you know is when you're consuming Windows on Windows, right? Because we give away hyper V server for free You can take that today and build an open stack deployment off of that and run any other operating system on it other than Windows Without getting charged by Microsoft Okay, so What we have and this touches a little bit on the on the vert IO piece earlier if you want to run Windows on a Platform other than hyper V with an open stack. We require you to use it in a supported configuration Right, so what that means is you need to have a power virtualized device driver layer, right? In which is certified by Microsoft today. There are currently only three Certified device driver layers there that operate For Windows on KBM, okay in order to obtain those you need to purchase them from your enterprise Linux vendor Okay, so what that means is you need to run supported Ubuntu From canonical you need to run rel from Red Hat and you need to or it needs to be Sousa Enterprise with each of their own respective Vert IO driver layer if you use the upstream fedora Powervert layer for Windows you will not get support for that Windows guest from Microsoft because it is currently a Uncertified solution so we highly recommend that you work with your sort of you know a Certified Linux vendor to obtain the appropriate license if you want to get proper, you know proper support for Microsoft Okay, so obviously VMware fits in there with VMware tools, but from a KVM perspective only you need to be Aware of the power virtualized device driver layer you're using on Windows if you want to get appropriate support So we get a lot of questions. Does Microsoft support open stack? Well, the answer that is actually yes, right? So and we do support it in the way that Front in the following ways right so if you decide to use hyper V with You know a supported version of Windows with hyper V and you want to put any virtual machine on that We will support you regardless of the management platform as long as you're in a certified configuration So feel free to use it Any supported licensing model there work So if you're you know have valid licenses all that stuff is you know kosher and you should have no issue obtaining support from Microsoft if You are running Windows in a supported configuration and have and are for some reason having any problems You can email that email address and I will assure you that someone will respond and help you figure out What you need to do to get a supported version of Windows or if you have questions also regarding any of this stuff That we just recently Discussed you can email that and we will make sure that you get your questions answered Okay, now let's move on to the next level so okay Everybody likes to deploy the virtual machines on a on a cloud So infrastructure services obviously a mandatory player. Okay, if you want to deploy anything useful, but Okay, you don't usually present your customer just a virtual machine you what the customer usually wants is to have Some something running on top of it. Okay, some service some applications and whatever came So we support a variety of options from this perspective one of them is heat heat is of course the orchestration project in open stack, so we have fully support for that and we have a Big lot of templates. I mean active directory exchange share point SQL server. Yes windows failover clustering SQL server also always on with with failover clustering as on okay So all these things are Fully automated. So all these activities that traditionally were requiring assist admin days to deploy now are fully automated And are deployed in a in a matter of minutes or maximum hours. Okay, including entirely cluster configurations Once again, that's in a purely open stack native user experience can be virtual can be physical I mean bare metal containers and so on what we'll talk later about containers and so Um Okay windows open stack components as I was saying before we are active on a Very large number of projects. So we have of course hyper V computer driver I mean that the hyper V driver is our darling meaning that it's the first project We started working on since for some okay, and obviously this one is a very mature project and so speak for yourself The project well, I started on campus so So The main idea is that people sometimes ask hey What's the status of the support for that project and everything because you know, usually you hear about I don't know All the KVM stuff backed by a red hat or canonical or all the big names in there in the Linux world Then you say do you hear VM were baking their project, but you don't hear Microsoft backing the The corresponding hyper V driver, okay We as cloud-based solutions are maintaining very actively together of course with a community this driver And I can guarantee that it's very high in terms of quality Okay, so the fact that there is or not Microsoft pushing behind it has nothing to do with the quality or the level of maturity or feature completeness of the project Okay, we are definitely willing to hear your opinion. We're willing to to ask or let's say answer any of your questions and Either of course through the open stack at Microsoft comm email alias or of course our booth or whatever else I see any of those things Next the Neutron agent of course there is no compute without networking So we have the hyper V SDN support and also open with which more on this later We have seen their support. We have actually three drivers two of them on Windows. I study support and SMB 3 Manila is actually fresh from Liberty So we have a new project a new a new driver which which merged actually in Liberty I'm talking about all this stuff is upstream in there in in the core of the stack projects, okay Well, of course we have a Windows cloud in it, which is like a lot better in it We have an agent for four kilometers. Okay, and Also very important since in 2000 in Windows 7 2016 there is going to be support Actually, it's already available in the preview for containers We have also Nova Docker support today. Okay, this is actually merging currently I meet up for a view in Nova Docker and we are working now on Magnum in order to have full support in Magnum Also for Windows containers. Okay, so this will be available by the time in which Windows server 2016 will be released. Okay So once again, those are all native open stack open stack Experiences in which we're integrating the the key Windows technologies such that you can use Windows technologies in your open stack deployment today Okay Okay, we would like to introduce sure. So hyper V. What is it? It's Microsoft's flagship hypervisor It's setup is pretty easy Our Nova drivers and its seventh release Actually, it's well since working with cloud base. It's in the seventh release. Well in Nexus. It was out. So yeah So essentially we have support in it for a hyper V the hyper V releases that are included with the 2012 2012 R2 and 2016 releases. We have VHD VHD X support Solometer support and there's lots more killer features that we include So a hyper V server is our free edition similar to ESXi. I guess. Yeah It's the full hypervisor platform. So there is nothing that Let's say that we include all the features and functions available to run a full hypervisor stack Within that product. Okay, you can take it today and have this have all the same bits that you would have in a full Windows server Hypervisor wise, right? It's a stripped down Windows core experience. So you get the you know reduced footprint And if you decide to use it, you will need to only license your Windows guests, right? Making a comparison with ESXi So ex Xi has some caps that say in the amount of resources you can use and to use fully as XI You need to use this fear, right hyper V is different meaning that you have everything you need in the hyper V itself Okay, so it just works. It's free out of the box No limitations exact same features that you can have on the Windows server a counterpart Now if you have a Windows server media standing around and you want to try this All you need to do is enable the hyper V role feature, right? And with same with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 You can use those for your open stack workstation development, right station Okay, then of course on top of hyper V you just deploy the hyper V now a compute which comes again with an MSI As we will see pretty soon Seamless open stack experience just like on Linux again, it's the same concept Only Python code so in the moment in which you look at the traces you look at the logs and everything is the same Identical type of logs that you will see on Linux. Okay, it's the same identical Nova compute that you will see running on a KVM box Okay It uses of course key features baked into the hyper V So we have a driver which runs inside of Nova compute and that's actually the hyper V driver Some key differentiators. I mean of course hyper visors today are Comodities meaning that you know you can take a KVM you can take an SSI you can take a hyper V You know they do more or less the same thing, but there are still some difference I mean some of them are stronger than others on some specific aspects, right? For example hyper V has a share nothing live migration out of the box You take two hyper V boxes. You have live migration. Okay, so now while I migrate it just works period Remote effects. So if you want to have VDI you have baked in hyper V and thanks to our driver also exposed to Opus tech you have GPU acceleration So you can have all these features as part of your Windows guests So for example, if you have VDI so if you give to your users access to virtual machines for desktop usage, okay? Shielded VMs is a new thing coming in 2016. It's a security feature that actually allows you to Guarantee to your users that even in case of Attempts to paint. Let's say the hypervisor itself your VMs will always be safe The way in which shielded VMs work. It's a pretty complex and long argument discussion that could take Let's say one one entire hour one entire session to discuss it, but it's an amazing feature Okay, it comes actually it's based on the so-called user resolution mode which comes with Windows 10 Okay, which is something that will change radically the way in which about we think about malware today It's a 2016 fix feature So meaning you can take the technical preview today and try it out But it will be available in RTM of course next year in storage spaces direct Which are used for hyper convergence meaning that you can have a shared nothing storage Meaning distributed across multiple nodes like you will do with Gloucester fsf and so on in which you can have as we will see pretty soon Every single note which has compute storage networking On seeing on on every note. So you don't have there also distributed across separated nodes in your network Now continuous integration, right one of the key aspects of open stack hyper V is fully CI tested With tempest and we report upstream to Garrett. Okay, we are one of the largest CI contributors Today and have been since we stood up the continuous integration infrastructure. We started with Nova, right? We also have CI for neutron both with a hyper V native virtual switch as well as We're currently working to enable our OBS driver in the CI as well. Okay, we we also Have downstream testing for those components because we have in some cases code that's waiting in the The pipeline to get integrated into the upstream release Those two projects are the networking hyper V and compute hyper V Okay, and those upstream project will our downstream projects will actually in most cases contain all the integrations that We have sort of waiting to get in the upstream tree We also Maintain and run CI for cinder. Okay, that's Cinder with ice because he targets on a Windows server as well as SMB three targets, all right and SMB three connectivity to Linux as well because Linux and the well essentially the Sama team has done a tremendous amount of work to enable the SMB three protocols in Sama and also Manila both Linux and Windows guests. Okay So I believe we are Most probably the only company with so many CIs running at the same time I mean, I don't know. I find it quite amazing sometimes that we've gotten this far Okay, let's move to neutral so Of course, we have the neutral plug-in part of the project since 2013 for hyper V back In the days in which it was called quantum since Havana We support VLAN and which are a flat networking and local network on this specific plug-in It's a plug-in agent model the cool idea is that it works as an ML to plug-in agent Which means that you can have the ML to plug-in and as many agents as you want Including For example open V switch. This is a typical Network diagram that he will have like so exactly like for every other type of open stack deployment. He will have a You will have some controllers. He will have a networking nodes and you will have compute nodes Okay in the new hyperconverged model. We have also distributed around it meaning that the networking node and the compute node merge, okay OVS interrupt so the ML to mechanism driver that we have is compatible with open V switch meaning that you can have one KVM node Running open V switch one hyper V node running the native networking stack and they will just work together seamlessly For example, if your tenant has one Linux machine and one Windows machine The two of them will talk among each other over for example a neutron tunnel Okay so one very important thing that we did from the beginning from a design perspective was that we wanted to be sure that you Were able to take the hyper V box put it in an existing open stack network With for example KVM or whatever else and make it just work seamlessly and this goes exactly in that direction We support of course the type of networks we were talking about before And we just use the level layer 3 DHCP for foul and so on agent that come directly with OVS. Okay, I'm most important with neutron Next that was not enough So of course most of our customer were happy, but some of them were asking hey I want to have also OVS DB and need open flows and need open daylight compatibility In short, they needed open V switch So we said, okay, let's move down to the hardware level or better said to the kernel level and Let's port open V switch to Windows. Okay, so we did this very very cool Porting work and now we have open V switch working natively on hyper V This is actually a work that we did together with VMware. Okay, so that was a very nice community work and all the code that we Contributed the entire project is currently available as part of the OVS project upstream. Okay Great interoperability support for all the type of tunnels that you will expect with open V switch So VX LAN and GRE STD and so on there is some genive porting in process as well Again near to an ML 2 and OVS agent So the same agent that you run on Linux works exactly as is on Windows And most important is compatible with open daylight and NSX because we support also OVS DB the OVS DB protocol So even if you don't run an agent locally on the hyper V box Okay, it will just work because always DB will is available to the network to the management network Seen that so Cinder Cinder we have an ice-cazi Windows driver basically utilizes the existing ice-cazi infrastructure Exporting VHDs today. I believe in 2016. We'll be able to do Roblox devices Does SMB? Sorry, that's all right I don't know where you left me off. All right. Yeah, so It also does SMB 3 and so FS Windows file server driver. It's a great companion for hyper V. It basically allows us to do TCP offloading of that transport layer. So I said don't think of SMB 3 as you know your old-school sifts or SMB It's it's used it by Microsoft as a as a high-speed data transfer layer for Remote disgrace activity and it can be used with any hypervisor Okay, with Manila same thing We enabled the SMB 3 driver in there for both Linux and Windows guests and that basically allows Windows file services To be exposed to guests through APIs dashboard integration So obviously horizon can be used with hyper V as well. Okay, there is one small difference All the other hypervisors use VNC as their technology for accessing the console of your Guests, okay, while we use RDP In order to do that we have a project which we contribute We are currently the maintainers of the free free RDP web connect project which consists in a HTML 5 layer which connects via web sockets to a service and this service will connect via DP to the hyper V host Okay, we are not talking about RDP to connect the inside of the guests But it's used to connect directly to the host meaning hyper V and that one will Redirect the content access to the console meaning that that's what you use also for example for accessing a Linux guest running a hyper V itself, okay In short it just works so our goal was to make again a seamless experience So what you get with VNC is what you get also with RDP. You just have this additional component to install So now of course has a installer So if you don't want to automate it with chef puppet and so on as we'll see in a second You can just run it and it will guide you asking you all the relevant information for example. Where is your keystone? Where is your glance API? Where is your MQP service rabbit in this case? Where do you want to put your instances and stuff like that? Okay, so you just fill up this information and then at the end you will have an installed and a deployed node or You can use Dev Ops tools right today We know there's a rich ecosystem of Dev Ops tools available for operating system platforms, right? You can use those, you know, especially puppet chef salt We know all work well with Windows right all those communities have put in a substantial effort to help embrace Dev Ops automation with Windows using their technology and we use some of it today in our CI as well How many of you are using puppet? Okay, chef. Okay, juju. Okay, salt salt Ansible Okay, good. I like it. There is a pretty good. It's good mix. Okay Okay, no, so nano server welcome to the next generation of Windows server We're gonna reinvent your Windows experience with nano server what it is. It's a Micro version of Windows. What about 400 mag right Alex? Yeah, it's lightweight. It could be pixie booted It's Windows without Windows. So not Windows core Windows without Windows it's a console welcome Once again extremely fault for extremely small footprint extremely fast to deploy and it's included as part of Windows 2016 it has hyper-reimbord storage and whatever else including also storage spaces direct. Yep now storage spaces direct is sort of a Our implementation of a distributed file system or a distributed block storage system that can be shared as Well, like a shared storage between all the nodes for converged purposes, right? We can build Scale-out file services with it and then use those file services As we said with cinder and manila Okay, so let's put all these things together and we get the open stack hyper converged based on hyper V This is something that we announced yesterday. Okay here at the summit is brand new stuff actually we are definitely so open stack has the first hyper-converged design ever based on Windows server, okay and How does it work? So you take your hyper V nodes for example for example with nano server We have a demo running at the boot by the way So if you want to comment our boot 32 and take a look at it, you will see it Each of those nodes has a hyper V. Okay, so for the compute part Networking and of course storage. Okay, so all the disk the local disk. So your regular out of the box commodity SAS or SATA disk SSD or regular hardware mechanical artists. Okay, can be used for this type of pulling So nothing expensive. So finally we get rid of all this cost that a son will imply and everything The storage is distributed meaning that thanks to storage spaces direct all those discs form a single pool or multiple pools depending on how you want to distribute them, okay, and On top of those pools you can create volumes in which data is mirrored Depending on the type of full tolerant settings that you want and striped across all those machines So the result is that at any time you can just take out one of the machines So let's say that it dies for any reasons and everything will keep on working What happens of course is that you will have some dedicated Networking in order to have the data transferring across the nodes and synchronizing. Okay So to make sure that everything keeps on working The good part is that this works also together with the SMB director and DMA So you have a harder of loading on the most Let's say used type of nicks in the indifferent in the modern infrastructure today So that actually you don't have to have CPU cycles or many CPU cycles dedicated to this So this is the same technology that Microsoft is using also So it comes with a platform and it will use also another type of clouds, okay We use it here in open stack On top of it We can use Cinder for example with scale out file server, which is a clustering Application that will use SMB 3 features To make sure that you have full full tolerance and balancing across those nodes for them For the host and guest and so on that will actually use the Cinder services on top of it Plus of course hyper V you take out one node Automatically, let's say that you one node dies You can just pull off the power. Okay, what happens is that the storage will keep on working So you will lose not anything from your volumes and at the same time The machine will simply be respond the line migrated to one of the other nodes, okay? So simple easy automated full tolerance and everything full support if you want either from cattle and not only for For sorry for pets and not only for cattle Next thing juju We are a big we are big fans of juju Actually, I believe it's the easiest way to deploy today Workloads on top for example an open stack cloud and very important it's It works on Linux it works on Windows and we have a ton of cloud-based Windows charms, okay from active directory hyper We of course exchange SharePoint Windows file servers SQL server SQL server always on VDI failover clustering Skype for business actually that's something we're going to be released pretty soon and so on and That's it if you want to try the charms just let me know there is will behind there somewhere Which can to which we can ask any type of questions We are more than happy to give you child versions or whatever plus we have also open source charms freely available If you want to try open stack on hyper V All you have to do is to use Vimaging which is a tool that we develop for a proof of concept Because the usual complaint that we hear from users so especially for newcomers to the open stack community is how difficult it is to deploy Open stack we said why and we created a tool in which just with a couple of clicks you can Deploy the entire open stack on anything starting from your laptop Let's say that you have a laptop with Windows 8 8 to 1 or 10 running hyper V Then you get open stack running there entirely so your laptop will be the compute node And you will have a virtual machines running the remaining Linux components. Okay, and it just works So no hassle in understanding how Open stack works you can just deploy it use it and then once you understand how it works You can think about how to do a deployment a scale, okay? We are adding also support now for the nano hyperconverged support that we were talking about Freely available on our site. Just download it use it and so on Next now if you have support questions or questions regarding open stack Please feel free to email open stack at Microsoft or look at ask cloud based on cloud based at it for information regarding that Okay, we got to the Q&A part any question Thanks gentlemen over there for the licensing of Microsoft case on Hyperveak, and we use our existing spa agreement. So we still license per socket absolutely. Okay, absolutely In fact, I believe that's the probably for a large-scale deployment. That's the best for public I'll just for public cloud is the way to go because you are needing to license actually to their parties Or even if you have like multi-tenant scenarios, that's the best Next questions Thank you for remote effects. Have you tried running benchmarks on the instances running a cloud? Yeah, we have some benchmarks We were actually going to publish them pretty soon. We were evaluating them today If you want to come to the booth we can talk about it. Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome great More questions. Wow. No questions. Wow. I'd really be more than that. Oh, yeah, don't be shy come on over there over there Did we cover? Oh, no, we didn't cover deploying on ironic. Did we? Oh, no, then it's also we also sorry guys We we missed a lot. Yeah, we support the point on ironic and also since we are talking about it We have a manga that we release for this number and on the last page. We have a tribute to ironic Okay, since this metal as a service, you see the guy here with the horses on So, yeah, we actually have full support for ironic as well Yeah And it's actually also mass and ironic are to prefer the way of deploying with bare metal and in cloud Basically, we added also ironic support as a we talked actually now actually additionally and let's not be short on this Cloud base also added support for Microsoft's cloud server. How many people here knew that Microsoft was a contributor to the OCS open compute Wow So thank you So yeah, so basically they added ironic support for Microsoft's open compute platform Both an ironic and in mass correct. Yeah So yeah, you can deploy user ironic to deploy on the open compute probably which is actually a great platform other questions Yep here in front Just a second for the audio device to arrive Okay, so you support a horizon, right? Yeah, and what about service manager? What service? Virtual machine manager. Okay, so hold on a second Let's talk for a moment about this in terms of open-stack technology that works with Windows. We're talking about Windows The core platform. We're not talking about any of our management platforms Those are different type of deployment, right? They're apples and oranges So from that perspective, they're mutually exclusive if you were to deploy them together You would essentially have two different Management solutions running on the same infrastructure that were completely independent, right? So from that perspective, you know Microsoft has a specific target audience for you know, they're a CVV CVMM deployments and such they're typically, you know highly available those things, you know It's those deployments that require HA at the hypervisor level and those sort of things, right? Open-stack's a different model of deployment, right? We I like to think of it like we like you know open-stack loves toasters We have a compute toaster a storage toaster and such and no hyperconverged toaster now so from that perspective the the model at which is different and from a early on perspective We need to just focus on enabling Windows hypervisors and open-stack, so Yeah, there's no overlap between what happens in SCVMM and and that SCV might be able to be deployed on top But we haven't done any work in that space with the open-stack group. We are open Let's say if there are customer requirements or something that we never say no to but you can see like the Platforms or the Windows operating system hypervians on as the basis and then you have a variety of management stacks on top One of them is VMM one other is open-stack and there are some some others, okay? So that that's the main ideas about all the features are available in the platform so that this management stacks can consume it There is nothing in VMM that is not available in open-stack from this perspective because they're both consuming the underlying Yeah, the same core features, right? So from once again from that perspective our goal primary goal was to take those features that we think are great in Windows and allow open-stack users that want to use Windows in their open-stack deployment to get access to those features Okay, guys. We are at the end of the Session if you have any other questions, please come by to our booth or we will be outside here Willing to talk with you to own any question. Thank you. Thank you everybody


Okay, so today's vlog is a little different How do I say this how do I say this I'm on my way home from the gym And I see this trash bag roll around the street across the street. I'm like, oh, that's that's not a trash bag and This happened so I was driving and I just found this dog in the middle of the street Looks like he's been out here for a long time He doesn't have a collar and so I don't even know what his owner like where his owner is I'm in the middle of the street Like what do I even do like do I take the dog and like do a you know found dog or something? Oh, man. Oh, no, he's just sitting now All right, buddy. We'll get you home. Uh, I'm gonna take you with come on I had a towel in the back here here. He is now He's probably so hungry and so thirsty. I have no idea what I mean It's a small dog.  Just bring a towel And so now we have a dog and I'm pretty sure it's someone's it's not a stray dog We're just taking care of it for the night. We're gonna go to the vet, but here's the here's the puppy Yeah, here's the puppy Hi pup How's it going? We found you on the street Now you're all warm That's that's a puppy. Oh, that's a good pup. Good job That's a tail, buddy The foot, tail, good pup What do you think about this? little Thing we found today. She's a sweet old girl Kind of like you The camera looks so close. I cannot You look so gross Close. Oh place of the camera looks so gross From the movie, oh, okay, you look pretty. What do you think? Well, there's the pup and And it like a lot of people were saying that we should go to the vet and get it checked because it might have like a chip Inside of it and yeah, we're gonna go to the vet But probably not tonight since it's a little bit later So we'll probably go to the vet tomorrow But now it's just like sleeping again. Look Oh Well, there it is that's that's that's the pup It's pretty hilarious because I posted on my I posted that on my TikTok and it blew up And so now people are like keep the dog keep the dog take it to the vet take it to the vet and I'm like Yo, I don't even know and it's actually it's actually kind of funny because Last three three days we were looking at getting a dog for the family and now three days later We have a dog, but it's not our dog. It's just funny that we found a dog what we were talking about a dog but yeah, it's pretty hilarious And now Ethan look at Ethan He's trying to feed the little puppy some apples You can feed apples. I Don't think she wants to eat buddy. I Think she might be tired. Oh Yeah, the the tongue came out it just rolled her on its side.


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Thanks very much, Lydia. My name is Gabriel Lopez. I'm professor of chemical and biological engineering at the University of New Mexico. I am a colleague of Lydia and Jose on the SEOS committee. I was very happy to be invited to moderate the session today on current leaders in business. We have a really great and diverse panel to learn from this afternoon. Our first speaker is Dr. Jade Sumana. I hope I pronounced that right. Dr. Sumana is an account manager at CITIVA, a Danahar corporation life sciences company. CITIVA is the new name for the former GE healthcare life science bio pharma business. Dr. Sumana received a BS in biochemistry and molecular biology at the University of Massachusetts and Hearst and his PhD at the University of Massachusetts medical school. He also received an MBA from Boston University. He is a board member and former student of the New England biomedical sciences career program and has been key in obtaining corporate support for students in that program. He has received many honors and awards and he's recently selected for the prestigious Danahar corporation's general management development program. Welcome, Dr. Jade Sumana and thank you very much for joining us today. I look forward to hearing to what you have to say. Thank you so much, Dr. Lopez and thank you Lydia for the kind invitation. This is an incredible topic and the timing couldn't be better. I think as we think about the life science industry, the STEM industry, it's very important for us to form leaders and secure the future leadership of the industry. Now I want to share with you a little bit more of my story how I've been given granted access to leadership at various stages of my career development and also talk about some challenges, some gaps and maybe draw your attention to certain things that we could do differently. I would like to say that everything really came into focus in my particular story right after graduate school. So as Dr. Lopez mentioned, I did my PhD at the University of Massachusetts Medical School. At that stage, I was looking for a post-doctoral fellowship. It was very challenging to obtain one. However, I was very fortunate to secure one at the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases run by Dr. Anthony Fauci within a very specific unit called the Vaccine Research Center. This is the center that discovered the Moderna COVID vaccine. The main takeaway from this story or this leg of my story is that there seems to be an association of subject matter expertise with leadership, especially in the academic institutions. And later on, when you go into the private sector, they still feed off of that. I believe that there should not be this type of association because you can find natural leaders that are not necessarily subject matter experts that do not have PhDs, that do not have these advanced degrees. Leadership is something that you can find in virtually anybody. So I want to draw your attention to that. So with my post-doc at the Vaccine Research Center at the NIH, we're doing amazing work there. And the folks from GE Healthcare basically approached me to join their sales team because of my expertise in biochemistry and antibody engineering. Now, they wanted me to work with their consumables team, not in a leadership capacity. However, that was a stepping stone to where I am today. Had I not had that experience with the Vaccine Research Center, it's very unlikely that I would have gained access to GE Healthcare, Life Sciences, and then subsequently to other roles. Fast forward a little bit. And through various engagements, I was invited to join the board of the Biomedical Sciences Careers Program, a board that Lydia runs with Dr. Joan Reed. And once I joined that organization, now I had a capacity or I'm starting to develop subject matter expertise in the space of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Now, from my employer, they see me as a subject matter expert in biochemistry. They see me as someone who's developing skills in diversity, equity, and inclusion. Fast forward to 2020 when DE&I exploded and became the hot topic of the year, everything came into focus. And that became a propeller for me to step up to the plate and say, hey, folks, listen, I actually have expertise in these various areas. Come to me and I can help you solve these critical organizational problems. Now, I do believe that all of the past experiences they all fell into into place, kind of like the pieces of a puzzle. But thinking about that subject matter expertise, would I have gained all of this if I had not gone into a prestigious postdoctoral fellowship? Would I be the individual that I am today at my organization? Had I not had that experience with the biomedical sciences careers program and so forth? I do believe that many people in our space have a lot to say and share when it comes to diversity, equity, and inclusion. They don't necessarily have the advanced degrees or whatnot, but they do have very important stories to share. So what do we do? What do we do about that? I think that it's very critical for us to think about ways to bridge that gap. And when I think about that, I like to frame it in terms of leadership activation, leadership development, and then leadership retention. Just as we work really hard to get minority students into the STEM fields, we create curriculum and programs to attract them, develop them, and retain them. We should do the same thing in parallel for leadership specifically. What do I mean by that? Think about a student who is trying to gain access into medical school. Many advisors will tell them, we want to see you lead a research program or a research project, deliver a poster presentation, so forth, lead an organizational club, you name it. Along those lines, we should reframe it not necessarily obtained leadership experience to gain access to medical school or your next step in your career journey. We should frame a leadership program or initiative in the context of preparing these individuals to become leaders of the future. Today, the life science industry as a whole, not necessarily on the pharmaceutical side, but let's say on the supplier side, so the organizations that are supplying the pharmaceutical companies with products and services to drive their innovation. There are very few leaders of underrepresented groups at the top. Why is that? Because historically, we haven't filled that funnel with individuals. So I think that it's very important to think about ways for us to create a framework, a platform to not only get students into STEM fields, but in addition to that, prepare them for leadership roles. This could be something as simple as mentorship. I always tell, I've benefited from three types of mentors. A mentor in my organization, a mentor outside of my organization, and then a mentor outside of my industry. Very specifically, giving you three examples of those three mentors and how they've helped me craft my persona as a leader and also how they've helped me develop as a leader. The mentor that I'd like to highlight in my organization, that was Celia Schiffer, my graduate school advisor. The thing that she did for me that was the best was to show me that she struggles. Today, we can look at many, many leaders in any industry. You see them, they all look like superheroes. They do phenomenal things, phenomenal work. You do not know how they do it. And it seems surreal. Celia Schiffer did all of that. In addition to that, she showed her students that she struggles and she struggles naturally. Normalizing your struggles allows the mentee to believe that what they are, the struggles that they're going to be, the path that they're experiencing is normal, is uniform. It's what everybody's going through. And what that also does is it stops them from quitting, from going into a different industry or just abandoning their dreams and aspirations. So that was the best thing that Celia could have ever done for me. And that's what allowed me to go to move from my graduate career into a post-Octoho fellowship. The next mentor that I had in my organization came from, or not in my organization, but it was through BSEP, the Biomedical Sciences Careers Program. There, I was able to observe how a superhero actually functions. There's so much to be gained from apprenticeship. We talk about mentorship. What about apprenticeship? What do I mean by that? During our board meetings at the Biomedical Sciences Careers Program, you have senior executives, C-suite executives from virtually all of the large pharmaceutical organizations driving diversity and inclusion in our industry. And there, what I was able to do is have a front seat and have a front seat and watching individuals like Lydia, like Dr. Joan Reed, and these various executives move mountains on behalf of minority students. That was very transformational. Why? Because it allowed me to gain some perspective, take some actions, and then apply those in my organization. Simple things that I could take away were soft skills, how to speak to executives, how to craft a strategy from ideation all the way to strategy execution and completion, and get an organization as big as GE Healthcare Life Sciences to become a top supporter of an organization like the SAP. It is incredibly hard to do that, and I think that many of you will appreciate that. But had I not seen how the leaders of the Biomedical Sciences Careers Program actually work, I would never had the opportunity to apply those same fundamental practices at CITIVA. So when we think about leadership development and the actual framework that we are working on and developing for future leaders, I highly recommend that we consider mentorship and apprenticeship as two things to do. Now, the last leader that I want to talk about is an individual at my organization, CITIVA, who is our Senior Vice President of Human Resources. His name is Derek O'Sullivan. During the advocacy for a partnership between CITIVA and GE and BSCP, I had an opportunity to pitch the idea of a partnership to our C-suite executives, one of whom was Derek O'Sullivan. He loved the idea, he loved the passion, and he recognized that there was a significant gap between the representation of minority individuals or underrepresented groups within our organization and the industry as a whole.   You have to come with me, these ideas, what do you want to do, and so forth, and I'll make connections for you. So over a 12-month period, I met with Derek on a very frequent basis. Each time I would come to him with something very specific that I was curious about. I was in sales at the time, currently still am in sales. I had the biochemistry experience, so what I was trying to do is add complementary skills to my subject matter expertise, right? So I would come to him and say, I'm interested about this, can you connect me to X, Y, and Z, and so forth. Through those engagements, I learned about the general management development program at our parent company, Dana-Her, and what I started to do at that point, I got comfortable enough to advocate for myself and say, Derek, I want to be a part of this program, can you help me? This is what I've identified as the next steps to do. This is what I would potentially need from you and Citeva. How can we make it happen? And then from then on, everything just came into place. So here what I'd like to say is, many students who are already in our industry, they are ambitious, but they may not come to you and advocate on their behalf. So please, be a Derek O'Sullivan. When you recognize talent, go to the talent and offer your mentorship. If you have an ability, offer also apprenticeship. Say, I'm going to show you how I operate. Be open about any kind of struggles that you may have. That will be incredibly humbling for the mentee. It will be incredibly encouraging and you really, everybody in this panel, I believe, has an ability to significantly accelerate the career growth of these students and individuals that we serve.


universities will do more of a holistic approach. So they'll look at your test scores and your grades but they'll also look a lot more at what you'll be able to bring to the campus community. So that's things through things like your essay, your letters of recommendation.


My name is Sam Dutney. I'm the author of Malignant Self-Lover, Narcissism Revisited. Heterosexual narcissists desire women as any other red-blooded male does, or even more so because of women's symbolic nature in the narcissist's life. Humbling the woman, humiliating her and subjugating her in acts of faintly is a way of getting back at mother. But the narcissist is frustrated by his inability to meaningfully interact with women, by women's apparent emotional depth and powers of psychological penetration, real or attributed, and by the sexuality. Women's incessant demands for intimacy are perceived by the narcissist to be a threat. He recovers instead of getting closer. The cerebral narcissist also despises and derides sex. Thus caught in a seemingly intractable repetition complex in approach avoidance cycles, the narcissist becomes furious at the source of this frustration. Some narcissists set out to do some frustrating of their own. They tease passively or actively, or they pretend to be asexual, or they turn down rather cruelly any feminine attempt to court them to get closer or to have sex.  Narcissists regularly frustrate all women sexually and significant women in their lives, both sexually and emotionally. Somatic narcissists simply use women as objects and then discard them. They masturbate, using women as props, flesh and blood aids. The emotional background in both cases, cerebral and somatic, is identical. While the cerebral narcissist banishes through abstention, the somatic narcissist penalizes through excess. The narcissist's mother kept behaving as though the narcissist was and is not special to her.  The narcissist constantly seeks confirmation from others that he is special.  Women threaten this quest. Sex is bestial. Sex is common. Everybody does it. There is nothing special or unique about sex. Women's sexual needs threaten to reduce the narcissist to the lowest common denominator, to render him average, mediocre.  Narcissists cannot be identified with these dimensions of human existence. Everybody and anybody can feel, copulate and breathe. There is nothing in these activities to set the narcissist apart and above others. And yet women seem to be interested only in these pursuits. Thus, the narcissist emotionally believes that women are the continuation of his mother by other means and in different guises. The narcissist hates women virulently, passionately and uncompromisingly. His hate is primal, irrational, the progeny of mortal fear and sustained abuse in early childhood. Granted, most narcissists learn how to disguise or even repress these untoward feelings. But their hatred does sometimes get out of control and erupts. And the mask falls and you see the true face of the narcissist. To live with a narcissist is an arduous and eroding task. Narcissists are infinitely pessimistic. They are bad tempered. They are paranoid and sadistic in an absent-minded and indifferent manner. Their daily routine is a rigmarole of threats, complaints, hurts, eruptions, moodiness and rage. The narcissist rails against slice, true and imagined. He alienates people. He humiliates people because this is his only weapon against his own humiliation wrought by their indifference. Gradually, wherever the narcissist is, his social circle dwindles and then vanishes. Every narcissist is also a schizoid to some extent. Schizoid is not a misintro, but the narcissist is. Narcissists don't necessarily hate people in the deepest sense of the word. They simply want not to need them. They want to negate their dependence on them for narcissistic supply. Narcissists regard social interactions as a nuisance to be minimized. The narcissist is torn between his need to obtain narcissistic supply from people and his fervent wish to be left alone. This wish springs from contempt and overwhelming feelings of superiority. There are fundamental conflicts, of course, between dependence, counter-dependence, contempt, neediness and devaluation, seeking people and avoiding people, turning on the charm to attract adulation and reacting with rage and rage to the minutest provocations. These conflicts, this unpredictability, this instability and liability of the narcissist's conduct, these lead to rapid cycling between gregariousness and self-imposed aesthetic seclusion. Well, as far as woman is concerned, such an unpredictable but always bilious and festering ambience, typical of the narcissist's romantically results is hardly conducive to either sex or love. Gradually, both sex and love become extinct in the relationship. Relationships are hollowed out. In perceptibly, the narcissist switches to asexual cohabitation with his female spouse or partner. But the vitriolic environment that the narcissist creates is only one hand of the equation. The other hand involves the woman herself. As we said, heterosexual narcissists are attracted to women but simultaneously repented, horrified, bewitched and provoked by them. They seek to frustrate and humiliate women. Psychodynamically, the narcissist probably visits upon women his mother's sins. But such simplistic explanation does the subject great injustice. Most narcissists are misogynists.  They are unable to love in any true sense of the word. Nor are they capable of developing any measure of intimacy. Lacking empathy, they are unable to offer to their partners emotional sustenance. Do narcissists miss love and loving? Would they have liked to love? And are they angry with their parents for crippling them in this respect? Who knows? But I think to the narcissist these questions are incomprehensible. There is no way they can answer these questions. The narcissists have never loved. They do not know what it is that they are supposedly missing. Observing it from the outside, love seems to them to be a reasonable pathology. Narcissists equate love with weakness.  And therefore they hate and despise the sick, the old, the young and women. They do not tolerate what they consider to be stability, disease and dependence. And love seems to consist of all these three. These are not sour dreams. Narcissists really feel this way. Narcissists are angry men, but not because they never experience love and probably never will. They are angry because they are not as powerful or inspiring and successful as they wish they were and to their mind as they deserve to be.  They are their own worst enemy. And in their unmitigated paranoia, narcissists see adversaries plotting everywhere and feel discriminated against and contemptuously ignored. Many types of narcissists, borderline narcissists for instance, cannot conceive of life in one place with one set of people. Doing the same thing in the same field with one goal within a decades old game plan or career path or relationship. To them this kind of existence is the equivalent of death. They are most terrified of boredom and whenever faced with its daunting prospect, such narcissists inject drama or even danger into their lives. They become reckless, abusive. This way they feel alive. The narcissist is a lonely wolf. He is a shaky platform indeed, on which to base a family or plans for the future.


Some will say that we don't have this problem here, yes you do, because this is a universal problem. It's not, you know, located to any specific part of the world and also, it's not, you know, it's not demographic specific, it's everywhere in society, you know.