Live from Miami Beach, Florida, it's theCUBE. Covering Veeamon 2019, brought to you by Veeam. Hi everybody, welcome back to Miami. This is theCUBE, the leader in live tech coverage. We go out to the events and we extract the signal from the noise. We're here at Veeamon Day One 2019 at the Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami. Danny Allen is here. He's the vice president of product strategy at Veeam. Welcome. Good to see you. Thank you, I always love being here with you. Fresh off the keynote, we were joking that you're up against South Beach and you had a packed room, nonetheless people were into it. It was like the Kool-Aid injection of the fire hose of feature announcements. Eight demos in about an hour, hour and a half. So congratulations for getting that done. Thank you. It feels like a weight off your shoulders. I'm sure you've been working on that for a long, long time as have your engineers. But okay, well let's get into it. Where do you want to start? Veeam product strategy. I mean, it's an exciting time for you guys. You know, dial back several years ago, there were a lot of nice incremental improvements, but there's a lot of like really sea changing things that are going on, your take. So I would argue the last 10 years is all about modernizing the data center. Even though people have been talking about cloud significantly over the last 10 years, the adoption hasn't really been there. So now we're at this inflection point where all these organizations are saying, okay, now I really have to do something about cloud. And the fight for dominance in the cloud management era is only really beginning now and we'll unfold over the next few years. Well that's some interesting competitive dynamics going on. There's a lot of money pouring into the space. Why do you think Veeam is in such a good position to be as what Ratmir called the dominant player in cloud data management? So two things really. So we have this maniacal focus on make it simple, make it reliable, make it flexible. But one of the other things that I think really drives this is so that those are our differentiator, simplicity, reliability, flexibility. But we have an unfair advantage in that we have 350,000 customers that are giving us guidance on how to make it simple, how to make it reliable, how to be flexible. You know, one of the other things that, so you've been at this, like I said, since 7 a.m. this morning, we're at the analyst and the media briefing. You just did the keynote. You talked about the five stages, the Veeam availability platform. And it was refreshing to actually hear a company who's traditionally a backup software company say, start with backup. Everybody sort of running away from the term and you're saying start there, backup, cloud mobility, visibility, orchestration, automation. So you sort of laid out this journey, but the core of it is backup because that's kind of what you guys are all about, right? That's how you get your data. Everyone wants to talk about artificial intelligence in PowerPoints and machine learning. More real, of course. And they want to talk about where we're going, but we're not there today. I mean, we have customers that struggle with backup and they struggle with backup in their data center and in the cloud. And so I always highlight to customers, yes, we want to go there and we'll help you get there, but start with backup because that's about aggregating your data into one place. So you talk about the customers being just sort of starting really there to really dig into the cloud. I mean, obviously, I don't know what the stat is. It's like 20% of workloads are in the cloud, 80% to go, depending on whose data that you're looking at. And typically you would think the vendor community leads, the user adoption, okay, that makes sense. But so what are the specific things now that we're, I guess, let's see, 2006, it all started. 2010, we started really paying attention to it. So now that we're decade and change in, what are the learnings on, how is that affecting your product strategy? So one of the things, the initial thought, 2010 to 2015 maybe, people thought, well, I'll just pick up my data center, move it over here and drop it in the cloud. And what they quickly learned is, I always say the cloud is not a charity, right? They layer in margin. And so just picking up infrastructure, moving it somewhere else, doesn't necessarily leverage the cloud for what it's good at. And so sometimes we actually see repatriotization, like the data goes back on premises after it moves to the cloud. But we are beginning to see cloud native applications that are designed for cloud. And that's where I think it's really interesting. Looking at Kubernetes, looking at functions as a service, that is where I think the cloud is really going to find its legs over the next few years. Yeah, you talked about that in your keynote, that you're going to need backup for things like Lambda and functions in the service. You're going to need backup for containers. And that's a whole new world. And it's not just backup, as we were talking earlier about data assurance, spinning down containers, spinning them up, making it harder for the bad guys to sort of figure out where the vulnerabilities are. So that's clearly part of the, I don't want to say roadmap, because Rattmer said, well, we don't really have these strict roadmap, but part of the vision. Yes, absolutely part of the vision and strategy. So what we do is we keep our finger in the pulse of what is happening. Like I say, we have an unfair advantage, 350,000 customers. How many of them are actually moving to the cloud? What are they moving to the cloud? Are they building in the cloud? So having that visibility into how this cloud adoption is taking place is giving us an advantage that frankly other companies don't have. So we invest in understanding that and then being ready when the scale actually tips. So one of the things that I find particularly interesting is that backup and restore, we've said it a couple of times today, has historically been a bolt-on. It's something that you do as an afterthought. It's something you do once a system's been built. But as this transformation, this move to digital business, puts data at the center of a company strategy and value proposition. It means that now this whole notion, this whole what backup does and why it is now important is because it becomes for the first time central to what a company's strategic business capabilities are. How is that shifting as a product guy? How's that shifting? How you balance and how you get information about features and functions and no roadmaps, but what you do next? We always look at how we can enable that next generation of activity. So you made an interesting comment there. You said people always bolt-on backup after the fact. And I look back, I come out of the security industry. People have bolted security on after they built the system. And we only really became better as an industry when we built security into the applications rather than bolted down. And we're still learning to do. Yes, and we're only now, so people are still bolting on backup. I would argue that we're now going through this phase of building data management into our platforms. And building data management in is more than just backup. It's ensuring that all of the data, you have the visibility across it that you can unlock it, that you can distribute it. Because if we're only looking at data in a reactive way, we're missing the greater opportunity to make our businesses run faster. Yeah, well, faster and better. We're diminishing the value of the options that we have on how we use our data. And that's not what you want to do in a digital business setting. We talk about assurance, data assurance. So data protection is one thing, but that seems kind of like what's already happened where data assurance is, ensure that your data is in the right place at the right time with the right set of services and the right set of metadata so that you can spin up that Kubernetes cluster if that's where you need it. How does that notion, that kind of forward reaching, turning data in an asset, generating new strategic value streams out of your data from a platform like Veeam, how does that comport with this notion of assurance? Good question. And a challenge that we have, frankly, as Veeam, is that our typical buyer has been the backup data center assurance buyer. And as you begin to look at how do we expand beyond this to unlock data and build systems in, all of a sudden there's a new constituent in play. It's not the IT administrator anymore, it's the compliance team, it's the security team, it's whatever team happens to be involved. So we operate this in a few different ways. One is certainly at a marketing level, just the messaging around ransomware, the messaging around compliance and GDPR, the messaging around how you can do more with data. But frankly, one of the big things that we do is events like this, we have CIOs and administrators of IT. I was speaking with CIO last night, he started out as an administrator of Veeam, sorry, Veeamware 10 years ago, now he's a CIO. And so these events are what enables to get the message out about what Veeam is actually capable of. It's not an uncommon profile, by the way. One more question, if I may, that you've got a strong security background and now you're in data protection. Those two groups are looking at many of the same problems. And if you think about where the security guys are going, they're increasingly looking at what they can do with data from a services standpoint that goes beyond security. And you look at what data protection is doing, you're looking at how you can start to add more data security attributes to the platform that you have. Where does this, where does security and data protection intersect and come together? And when do you think? Well, frankly, I believe that Veeam is at the intersection of that now. And to take it one step further, I think it's not only data protection, data security, but also data privacy. So the advent of GDPR and regulatory around users' ownership of data. And I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. I'll be honest on that because we have this patchwork of regulations with no central model. And if I was a CIO, I'd be pulling my hair out. But I believe that Veeam is well positioned because we're at the intersection and we can see all of this data. That's why visibility is the center stage in that five stage journey because you move from being reactive to being proactive with the data and proactive in terms of security and proactive in terms of data privacy.  That's even such a thing. But you know, we've talked about security has shifted from one of pure defensive to responsive. How do I respond? How quickly can I respond? You know, data protection has always been about recovery. I mean, I think two of your fire hose demos today were about fast recovery from backups and then recovery to vSphere. And I feel like I kind of agree. It could get worse before it gets better when you think about privacy. It sort of reminds me of the early days of the federal rules of civil procedure and you're trying to plug holes with email archiving and it was just a bandaid. You mentioned GDPR a couple of times. How have you seen GDPR sort of affect the way in which people think about data protection and data management? Has it been a real uptick in awareness? Is it still sort of like the email archiving, plugging the finger in the dike? What's your take? Well, I just wrote an article on this actually because May 25th is one year anniversary of the implementation of GDPR. But it's done a few different things. One is it's raised user awareness and organizational awareness of the issue of data privacy as opposed to security, that the users have some ownership over their data. So if nothing else, it's just raised awareness for the users and the organizations. The second thing though that it's done is it's actually put, there's legal teeth to this. There's been hefty fines associated with it. And I think those are only going to increase, that the market is only really getting started. We're going to see how it plays out over the next five years, but I expect to see more GDPR compliance issues and more fines associated with it. But ultimately it's better for the end user because they get the ownership that frankly they deserve with their data. So this right to be forgotten is sort of central to GDPR. So how can the backup corpus be a linchpin of the right to be forgotten or potentially the smoking gun if it's not found? Thoughts on that? So we've introduced specific capabilities for this. So around GDPR we have simple things, when I say simple things, complex, but we've made it simple for customers to tag data. Does this belong in this country versus this country, this country? Because actually when you recover, forget about whether it's privacy data. Are you even allowed to do that? But secondly, we introduced a step in update four, this was back in January, that when you recover data, you can actually say I want to run the script to eliminate that user's data from being recovered because if they exercise the right to be forgotten after the database is in archive and then you recover it, their data is back all of a sudden. So we introduced a sandbox environment where you could run all of the same GDPR right to be forgotten scripts and when it's recovered, that's eliminated. And our focus has always been to just make those types of processes really simple for our end customers. So I got excited this morning when you were talking about the fast recovery from backup and you talked about replication and where that fits, but being able to have the architecture and the metadata access to be able to do a fast recovery from backup is pretty profound. It seems like your architecture is designed in a way that it's not a do-over as a product guy that's probably quite helpful. But I wonder if you could just describe sort of the tenets of the architecture just in terms of what it means for Veeam's future, future-proofing, however, buzzword we want to throw at it. But there's an architectural component that was my takeaway from this morning's conversation that's fundamental. Yeah, one of the fundamental components is our data is self-describing. If you've win zip and I have seven zip, I can send you a file and you can open it. And we did that with different programs entirely. So when we do a backup, there's no dependency on a central server, a central management environment. And that's really important when you move things from the cloud to on-premises to another cloud to different environments because otherwise they all need to talk to one another in order to understand what the data is that they receive. Another problem with that model is that if that central management environment goes down, you've lost everything. And with a self-describing format, what it means is even if the Veeam software blows up and goes away, if I have that VBK file, I can recover all of the data in it. And that is very unique to us because if you do your data protection in the cloud, you just need to move the data on-premises and I can open it on-premises with a completely different software stack, if you will. If you acquire a new company, I can open their backups even, assuming I have the keys and permissions and security and all of that, even though it was managed or backed up with completely different management stack. So you're saying if a competitor loses their catalog, they're screwed? Yes. And that's not the case for you guys? We actually had this happen just recently in Amia. A customer had both a competitor and our software and they were hit with ransomware and the ransomware hit the metadata catalog and they lost everything in the competitor's software. Now, because they were following the 321 rule and they had one data off-site with Veeam, they were able to recover 100% of the Veeam backups and 0% of the competitor's backups. Well, that's a story. Yeah, I'll say, yeah. Case study in the making. That is actually, it's fundamental to the model and it's not only fundamental for block storage backups, but also the way we introduce object storage and cloud object storage models as well that it's completely self-describing even if your Veeam software goes away and you're 10 years down the road, you can still get that data back. Okay, we've got to give you the final word here. Day one, we're wrapping up day one with Danny Allen, head of product strategy at Veeam. Your keynote, the analyst feedback, customer feedback, summarize it all into a bumper sticker. You know, take as much time as you like. Well, this is an exciting year for us. So we have a really strong focus on cloud. You've probably seen that all over cloud data management we're talking about over and over again. It's on the wall. It's on the wall. It's on the pins that we wear, it's everywhere. So cloud data management, another thing that you, I don't know whether people have noticed, but we've put the focus back on our buyer who is the technical decision maker. So rather than talking about, you know, the environment 10 years from now in artificial intelligence and machine learning, well, we get excited about those things. We've brought it back to our core buyer because the budget today is for backup. The budget is not for artificial intelligence. There's a budget for backup. And so we've done two things, focus on cloud and focus on that technical decision maker. And it seems to be resonating customers all day long. Great, great conversations. Well, it's pragmatic.  I always have been Danny Allen. Thanks so much for coming on theCUBE. It was great to see you. Thank you very much. All right, thank you. That's a wrap for day one. Peter Burris and I will be back tomorrow. Again, wall to wall coverage. This is theCUBE and we're here at Veeamon 2019 in Miami. We'll see you tomorrow.


All right, so a quick one for you today at a year eight level we're going to be operating with indices So with indices we're going to look at addition So with addition you have something like three to the power of two Plus three to the power of four What do we do what do we do so for this one for this one we can evaluate it we can just Get it correct. All right, so with three to the power of two we use bimnas So three to the power of two is also known as three times three which equals to nine Okay, so that's our first number three to the power of four is three times three Times three times three three times three is nine times three is 27 Times three again Equals How do you want how else do we do that? Well, let's break this down. Let's break this down again So when we have three times three My bra buster has just broken When we have three times three a loop all that what do we have? We've got three times three is nine three times three is nine nine times on 81 or 27 27 27 7 14 21 carry the two two four six seven eight 81 and that's how we added them for going too fast repeat that watch it three more times and you will hopefully go Oh, that makes sense Right, let's go back to this so our first number is nine and Our next number is 81 What are they doing together? Plus, what's 81 plus 9? There is your answer Okay, evaluate means solve Find the answer find the solution finish the problem Done, right Now, let's see if we can break this down a little bit more. Okay, how does that become 90? Well three to the power of two So three to the power of two, which means three times three Okay, which means three three three There are three lots of three which equals to nine. Yeah But let's just continue with these. Okay, we've got three lots of Three to the power of four now three to the power of four We've got Three times three times three times three Okay, three lots of three, right? Three lots of three We've done that Okay, we've done that part, but that's saying that there's three lots of three of three So we have to write these three more times. So three three three three three Okay, three lots of three of three Yeah, what about three lots of three lots of three lots of three. So we have to do that Another three more times. So three lots of three And you keep doing it forever, okay, so With this one we've got two Three and four. We've got this at nine. We've got this at 27 now for this one we had this correct now for the first one we had nine So it's adds up to nine. Then we had another nine And then we had another nine Okay, nine nine and nine Equals 27 Okay, and then we had another group And we know that as 27 and then we had another group and we know that as 27 and we added all those groups up, right and then we got 81 and then we added all those threes together with these three and we got 90 Now see how long that took us That took us a long time didn't it writing all these threes down. Okay, imagine even bigger numbers We'd be here all day we run out of ink would run out of whiteboard We'd run out of battery on our iPads would run out of paper in our notebooks just writing threes all day All right, especially if it was to the power of ten. Can you imagine? I don't think we'd have enough time in the day as well So we use indices to simplify it. Okay to make it smaller and then all we had to do was go Three to the power of three three times three Three to the power of four times three times three times three twenty seven eighty one and then add them together Okay Now when these numbers get bigger the calculators become more handy. Let's move on the next one is multiplication now multiplication There's even more hardcore Or is it so let's do the multiplier section Let's have a problem. Let's go the same numbers. We've got three to the two times three to the four Here's our first Indici law All right, here's our first indice a lot We're gonna call this the base number so label this that's the base Number Whatever number it is. That's the base number this We now know as the indice Little number at the top little cute little number little bird sitting on top of the the number right pecking at it now If both numbers are the same Stays the same But what do we do to the little numbers when we multiply? Here's the indice law one And I'm going to use algebraic terms right so any base number Multiply by that same base number if it has M amount and n amount What actually happens is? They both come together because they're the same and the m and the n actually add So let's say we've got these values here that stays the same what two numbers add up That's right the two and the four Which equals? Three to the power of six Let's prove that theory. Let's prove that theory So we have three to the power of two We know that it's three times three. How many threes can you see? To that's why it's a two Three to the power of four Yeah, just like our last problem. How many threes can you see and what are they all doing together? Multiply how many threes are there all together? six That's why it's a six now Same rules apply same same rules apply. Okay. I'm going to give you a different answer I'm going to jumble these around I'm going to go divide Here's the next indice law Three to the power of six three to the power of four and we have a base number. That's the same the n and the n Subtract so when we divide our indices with the same base value the indices subtract Six take four. Oh, we skipped the step. Didn't we? What's our base number here? three Six take four is Done, that's our answer sweet. Cool. Yeah Shall we do the theory as well? Let's do the theory. How many threes are there three times three times three Times three times three times three There are six threes there. We'll find all together over here. We've got three times three times three times three times three And take that one. There we go four of them. Yeah, because we're dividing and our rule is and take away and Well, we don't even have to write that we just have to take away four from here And we're left with three times three and three times three an industry form is three to the power of two done All right, that is that one all sorted. So that's our main Indice laws Then you get the tough one you get this really annoying one you get three to the power of three to the power of four Brackets. Oh boy. Oh boy So, what does that mean the industry law here is this X? Bracket three Sorry, I'm going to use the letters again to make more sense because we can't put values in and and What are these two doing together? Have a think pause it and have a think write down what you think the answer is and What they're actually doing is multiplying so m times Okay, they're not adding their times. So let's let's show you why I'll show you why on this board So let's go inside the brackets three times three to the power of three We know that that as three times three times three To the power of four is saying it four times. So we have to write this in total four times Let's do it. Let's do it. Just to show you Three one more So four lots of them. So there's one row two three four lots of The original amount of three times three, okay Now if we follow this law of m times n We're multiplying three times four three times four equals 12 and We keep the same base number. So it'll be three to the power of 12 They're all multiplying together How many threes do you reckon I wrote down here? 12 let's count three six nine 12 We're done. We've done it there. We've done it You're welcome There are more in to see those and we'll cover them eventually very shortly after these short messages Hope you enjoyed it


Hi everyone. Thank you for coming to our session. My name is Yan Xian. I'm a lead instructional designer from NC State University in the U.S. And I'm Steve Bader. I'm the open source associate director at NC State responsible for managing Moodle and keeping it upgraded and custom applications. Yeah, so we are from the organization called digital education and learning technology applications. We do many different things on campus, including like managing the Moodle system and also working with instructors on course design development. So we created a Moodle plugin called Roadmap that we launched across campus since last fall. Although this plugin can be used for any type of course design, our original intention was to use it to support blended and flip learning. So in this presentation, we'll talk about the background of creating this tool, working through the plugin interface, and then we'll showcase some course roadmap examples and share our findings from one of those courses. Okay, so let's get started. So blended and flip learning, which is often referred to as hybrid learning, it kind of transforms traditional in-person lecture with after-class homework into two kinds of blended flipped learning modes. So blended flipped in-person learning integrates online asynchronous learning with active learning in an in-person classroom setting, while blended flipped by-craness learning integrates online asynchronous learning with active learning in a synchronous online environment. So in both cases, students are often expected to complete online learning before they come to class for applications. So that they are ready to apply the knowledge. So at NC State, we have been using this blended flipped learning approach to redesign many of our undergraduate courses before the pandemic, and this trend has been growing even faster since the pandemic started. However, there are a number of instructional challenges with using this approach. So students are oftentimes unclear about the blended and flipped learning approach, the format, the expectations. They would show up in class without watching the lecture videos or doing the exercises, and they will just not be ready for the application, and what they can get out of the class is very limited. And also students tend to consider online learning before class as teaching myself, which they believe is not what they are paying their tuition for. So the challenge is really to help students understand the purpose of online learning and how it's preparing them for the in-class active learning. And another challenge is blended and flipped learning requires a high level of self-regulation skills to manage learning before, during, and after class, but not all students have those skills when they start college. So to address these challenges, we use this blended flipped course design framework to help organize our course materials and activities. So basically we organize the entire course into several self-regulated learning cycles in which students start by proactively planning for their learning goals, study time, learning space, study learning strategies. And then during the cycle, they frequently monitor the performance of learning the knowledge skills and in applying the strategies they plan to use. And at the end of the cycle, they kind of self-reflect on how well they achieve their goals, how adequately they use the learning strategies, and how effective the strategies work for them. And then within each self-regulated learning cycle, there can be a number of blended flipped learning cycles that are set up based on the basic learning units, such as weeks, class days, or modules. So in those cycles, students start with online self-paced learning to learn the basic concepts and skills, and then they move on to in-class active learning to apply those concepts and skills to solve problems with peer interaction and instructor guidance. And then they finally review and integrate what they have learned by solving new problems independently or with reduced support. So this framework did help us a lot with course design, but we still feel like we need a tool that can help us visually and interactively communicate this new approach and expectations to students. And that's how we came up with the idea of a model roadmap tool. And now Steve is going to show you what the tool looks like. So at the start, we went through several iterations. We looked at running with HTML and JavaScript, and then we connected it to a gamification plugin that we have in-house, and it just wasn't solving the solution. So we decided that we're going to make it a plugin. It's going to be within Moodle. It's going to display a lot like a label does. It's going to get the benefits of the Moodle APIs like user events and activity completion, and it will be able to display within the course structured and responsively so that it would look and feel more a part of Moodle. So this is kind of the display. You have your course learning objectives that are tied to the roadmap itself. They're displayed at either the top or the bottom of the roadmap. The roadmap itself consists of the bigger containers called phases. You can rename the title to whatever you'd like. The phases are color coded. They're collapsible. They turn into a progress bar not to take up space. Within phases you have cycles. Cycles have the title which you can adjust. You can name it week, day, or chapter based on whatever fits your course the best. Then within cycles you have steps. Those steps can be tied to activities in the course. It has a rollover that has a description that you can set. You can also set the expected completion date for the user so that they can see when this is supposed to be done. These steps each have like their own display, informational display to the user. The default state is not started. It's the grayed out version. But once progress is started on the activities that are associated with the step, the bar will start filling up around the circle. If the due date is approaching they'll get a little explanation point over top of it so that they can see that they're kind of in trouble. Once it's completed it'll fill in in color and if it's completed on time they get a little star. The cycles themselves allowed us to both accommodate for blended flipped learning cycles and self-regulated cycles since they're attached to activities in the course. So it could be things that they can do on their own. So the roadmap setup, we tried to make this as simple as possible since our earlier versions were very difficult. You add it to the course like any other activity. You click on the configure roadmap button and you get three sections that you have to work through. First you have to configure your course learning objectives so that they can be displayed and tied to cycles. Then you get the edit roadmap section and then you can adjust the appearance. In the edit roadmap section we wanted this to be intuitive. We display phases in a hierarchical fashion. Within the phases there are cycles and within the cycles the steps all for you to configure in one big list. They're collapsible, sortable, you can edit and you can delete all on one page as you manage. So we'll look at a closer look of those. So breaking each section down, the course learning objectives is managed by a list of text inputs and you can sort them in the list and they get a number associated to them. The phases, you can update the title, you don't necessarily have to call it a phase. It could be whatever you want to break it up in your course. The cycles within each phase, you can adjust the title, the subtitle. You can link the cycle anywhere in your course that you would like. And you will also select the course learning objectives that are tied to that cycle so that they'll display in the roadmap so the students will know what they're focusing on. Within the cycle you have steps, you can manage the rollover text. You can select from 50 of our SVG icons, some of which are on the card that are on your table. Those icons are what displays on the roadmap. You can select from activities in your course as to which ones are tied to this step. So as they complete the activities that will progress where we fill, you can link steps to places in your course. So this can act more like a menu as well as they're progressing through the course and they see where they need trouble. They can click and go right to the place in the course they need to work on. And then you can also set the expected completion date and time so that they know when this needs to be done, if it's before class. We do have the roadmap available for demo. Again, the cards that are on your table will take you to the demo website. It's also on that website there's links to the presentation which has the same links within the slide here. If you do end up on the demo server and you register, it'll send you an email for verification and whatnot. But as you register, what's going to happen is it's going to place you into a demo course as a student so that you can progress through the course as a student and see the roadmap change and show things for you. And then it'll also spin up a course for you as an instructor as a sandbox so that you can test and configure a roadmap for yourself. We do have a link to the Moodle roadmap user guide that was created in-house just in case you run into any issues. Okay, so now let's take a look at some course roadmap examples. So this is an introductory biology course. It's organized by four major learning units plus a getting started unit. So each unit has three to four weeks and every week has two to three modules. Every module has its own blended flip learning cycle with two learning steps. So conceptual learning is completed online before class to learn the basic biological concepts. And active learning happens during and after class that requires students to use the biological concepts to explain like the phenomenon they observe and also problems. We also integrated learning reflection at the beginning which is like this icon. At the beginning and then middle and end of the course which creates the self-regulated learning cycle for unit one and two together and then unit three and four together. This is a bioengineering class that has an introductory phase and then two main phases of using Excel and R to solve bioengineering problems. So each of the main phases has a number of week-long modules and each module has its own blended flip learning cycle with five learning steps. So the first two steps are completed online before class. So students first learn the tool functionalities and then they watch the instructor's problem solving demo while following along with the demo. And then they come to class in step three to solve a more complex problem with instructor guidance. And then as they move to the steps four and five they kind of work on problems more independently during lab and in homework. We also integrated learning reflection at the beginning, middle and end of the class and we made monitoring activity part of the homework problem solving. So that creates the self-regulated learning cycle for each of the main phases. So this is a game design course. So this course uses a project-based learning approach and organized the phases based on the milestones of a semester long project of designing a visual game, which is represented as the trophy icon throughout the course. So students went from understanding game design to design their game and then implement their game design and finally play test their game. So we also have the week long learning cycles, blended learning cycles. So those cycles always start with theoretical learning of the game design concepts and experiential learning by playing games. But in phase two there are two other smaller projects running concurrently as the visual game design project. So that's why there are many more steps in phase two than in phase three and four where students are focusing on implementing the game, visual game they designed and test. So this kind of shows learning cycles can be very flexible in terms of the lens. This is a Python programming course. So it's organized into four phases with increasingly complex topics. So the week long blended learning cycles has four major learning steps. So students first complete conceptual learning using lecture videos and self-check exercises before they come to class. And then during class they work on top head questions as a class, as a whole class, and then work on coding problems in smaller groups. During lab they kind of work on more complex coding problems with peer interactions and TA support. And then finally they work on homework and project activities to reinforce everything they have learned throughout the week. We have learning reflection at the beginning of the course and at the end of every phase. And we also integrated learning monitoring activities in each week. So that kind of created the self-regulated learning cycles for every single phase. So we actually did an evaluation study to look at the effectiveness of the roadmap tool in this particular course. So we collected data from 422 and Spring 23 with a total of 241 students. In both semesters we used the Moodle 4.0 with the show all sections on one page setting. So our evaluation questions included how did students use the roadmap? How did they use the roadmap use relate to their learning outcomes? And what were their perceptions and attitudes about the tool? And we collected data from student surveys, their self-reported roadmap achievements, and the course total grades. So we'll talk about our findings. So the first question we asked the students was on average how often did you look at your course roadmap? Because in Moodle 4.0 the show all sections on one page setting allows students to hide or show the section where the roadmap is located. So we believe this results kind of represent students natural tendency of looking at the roadmap. So we found three groups of students. About 15% non-users, so those are students who said they never looked at it, they never looked at the roadmap. So they probably kept the roadmap section hidden. We had about 30% of occasional users who look at the roadmap like several times in a semester or every few weeks. And we have 54 something percent frequent users who look at roadmap every week or multiple times a week. The 15% non-users was a little surprising to us because in earlier version of Moodle when the show all sections on one page setting kept the roadmap visible all the time we had less than 1% students that they never looked at it. And we also find like these three different groups of students had very different ways of using the roadmap and different perceptions attitude. So we will share the findings by comparing them. So these are the common ways students use the roadmap based on our feedback from the earlier versions of this tool. So we asked the students to rate how often they do these things. As you can see most of the non-users never really did any of these. For occasional users more than 60% of them use the roadmap for monitoring such as like check on where I am in the course track my activity completion status and use the roadmap for navigating the course. And for frequent users more than 90% students did those things frequently. For occasional users like a little less than half of them use the roadmap for planning or reflection whereas for frequent users more than 85% did those things. This is less frequent than monitor using the roadmap for monitoring which made sense to us because the roadmap tool doesn't directly support planning and reflection. But we always recommend instructors to have separate planning reflection activities to go along with using the roadmap. So these are the common perceptions about how helpful the roadmap is to the students. So again we asked the students in this class to rate how helpful they feel the tool for their learning. So as you can see like most of the non-users didn't find the tool helpful in any of these areas. More than half of the occasional users find the tool helpful and about 80 to 90% of frequent users find the tool really helpful in all these areas. We use these three statements to measure students general attitudes about the roadmap tool. So as you can see more than like frequent users are more likely to agree with all of these statements much more than the non-users and occasional users. So this kind of suggested different roadmap experience from these different groups of students. So for frequent users they tend to look at the roadmap more often and use it frequently. And they see a lot of value in using this tool and develop more positive experience and attitudes about it. Whereas for non-users and occasional users they didn't look at the roadmap or use it that often and as a result they are not seeing as much value in it. Okay and this kind of shows that okay. Yeah so let's take a look at the, we also ask students to self-report their roadmap achievements at the end of the course. We do have the plan to develop dashboards using the data captured by the roadmap tool in the future. So hopefully in the future we can get these data directly from the tool rather than relying on students self-report. So look at what we have here. So for colored icon achievements which represent the completion of activities these three different groups of students earned significantly different amount of colored icons. So with frequent users earning about 90% occasional users about 75% and non-users about 65%. So it kind of tells us that the more students look at the roadmap tool, the more they look at the roadmap, the more likely they are going to complete activities tied to the icons. And similar for the star icon achievements which represent the on-time completion of activities. The frequent users achieved significantly more star icons than the non-users or occasional users. However it still shows us that about 60% of frequent, the frequent users earn about 60% of all possible colored icons. Meaning that they will met the timeliness expectation for about 60% of the time. So we wish like this is higher percentage but this number kind of tells us two different things. One is like students like they still need to do better, they can still do better to keep up. And the other part is that this tool has some limitations that affected this number because often for example some of the activities are completed outside of Moodle. And they require students to mark it as done manually after they complete which they tend to forget to do it on time. So that affected like whether they can get to the star icon or not. And then the other part is when the activity is completed by receiving a manual grade it relies on when the instructor or the TA enter the grades in a grade book. So that also affected students achievement. So looking at the course grades distribution like a large percent of students earn the A's or B's in this class. But if you look closely at the three different groups the frequent users had higher A rates and lower B rates than the other two groups. And in this graph like these are numbers of students who earned A's in this class and among all the A's students 60% of them were frequent users. It could be because those were students that were high achievers to begin with and were more likely to meet the expectations. But as we did a regression analysis we did found that the roadmap achievements can expand about 10 to 20% of variance in the course total grades. Meaning that like the roadmap achievements could have some predictive power of the final learning outcome. So Steve we'll talk about our next steps. Yeah so we have a lot to improve on and there's some good planning going on. The first thing that we're focusing on is getting the roadmap plug into a place that we can share it with the Moodle directory. We're shooting for 4.3. We have a sign up link in our slides that you could get notified when we do finally make it available. We're working on campus to continue to add roadmap to more courses through our marketing workshops and our grant projects. And we're working to refine the current plug-in and add new features. Make it more robust and as Yann mentioned we're trying to design and develop a roadmap dashboard. And create course design recommendations related to the roadmap. Anyone have any questions for today? There you are. Hi, really interesting. Is there any reason to develop this tool as Moodle and not maybe as course format? We could go that direction but we have so many courses that are already in the current course format. And one of the beauties about the plug-in is you don't have to use it just once. You can break the roadmap plug-in into smaller pieces and add them into each section. So while a course format does fit really well and that's a great suggestion, the plug-in itself acts like a label so that you can have it in multiple places. I can see both. Thank you for sharing this presentation. It looks really fascinating. I wonder if the code is already available on GitHub or wherever you share code. And number two is have you already tested this in relation to the cause index? With what? The cause index introduced in 4.0. And the recent change that text and media activities are then sometimes displayed and the index is sometimes not so that might be an interesting thing for you. So right now it acts a lot like a label so we have that same issue where if you're editing you'll see it and if you take it away it goes away which is one of the things again mentioned was it's kind of a frustration because we lose that visibility so we're trying to figure a way to accommodate that. You don't need to do that because Moodle fixes that. I saw it was a 4.3 they address it right? Yeah, so it would be a good time for us to release and then go back to your other question. We are working towards making it a community plug-in so we would add it to the plug-in repository for Moodle and then it would be on GitHub, yes. But currently it's not the way it would be. It's not currently there. We're close. Are you willing to share it? Yeah, I can see that. Thanks for the talk. So you had mentioned one of the limitations of the roadmap is that when you have assignments that are completed outside of Moodle it is the responsibility of the students that indicate that they have completed that activity in Moodle. Do you have any thoughts on how to get around that issue? Because that could create quite a bit of difficulty if we're constantly relying on students to be diligent. It seems like it almost kind of takes the purpose of the roadmap. Yeah, so it depends on what type of activity it is outside of Moodle. Some of the activities that we have outside of Moodle but has LTI integration. So those doesn't create any problem because we can just use the external tool to connect the activity. For activities like read a certain book chapter or write some reflection notes, those kind of things. Yeah, they have to report back to Moodle to make sure they did it on time, to tell the roadmap that they did it on time. And what we found is if we are doing this consistently throughout the course, students kind of develop that routine of doing those things. So it's more like a checklist for them. I did this, I did that. So I would say for most of the students they can do that. They can follow the instructions. But of course there were always students complaining, oh I deserve that star but I couldn't get it because I forgot we always have students like that. Thank you.


Okay, welcome back to the continuing lecture today for BC 308 on Revelation and Daniel. We are going to start with chapter 4 of Revelation. Any questions before we get started on chapter 4? Any questions so far on the seven churches or any thoughts that you want to share? So, let's go ahead with chapter 4. Could somebody read for us the first five verses, please? Revelation chapter 4 verses 1 through 5. Thomas, can you read it? Go ahead, Kiran. After these things I looked and behold our door is standing open in heaven and the first voice which I hear was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, Come up here and I will show you things which must take place after this. Immediately I was in the spirit and behold our throne set in heaven and one set on the throne and he who said there was like a jasper and a sardis stoned in appearance and there was a rainbow around the throne in appearance like an emerald around the throne where 24 thrones and on the throne I saw 24 elders sitting clothed in white robes and they had crowns of gold on their heads and from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings and voice seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne which are the seven spirits of God. Thank you. Alright, so Revelation chapter 4 verses 1 through 5. So the Lord has soon drawn about these seven churches and then he says after these things I looked. That means it's the beginning of a fresh vision so it's like one segment is over about these seven churches that's over and now a new movie or a new segment is starting so that's what he means. I'm seeing something new is starting so he says I looked and now he sees it's like a door open in heaven and he hears a voice like the sound of a trumpet meaning a very, very powerful voice but it is articulated means he can comprehend it is saying something and voice come up here so God is calling John. Now at that moment when he says come up here in the spirit he's entering through this door into heaven into heaven and so the voice hears a voice and come up here I'm going to show you things which must take place after this so these are the things out in the future things which must take place so remember in chapter one and in verse 19 the Lord spoke to John and said you know there are things you have seen things that are and things that will take place so Revelation 4 1 is the third part things that will take place he says things which must take place after this so these are things out in the future so he's getting a vision he's going into a vision come up here sees a door he's going through the door and then he's saying these are the things that are going to take place from in the future and verse 2 John says Revelation 4 2 John says I was in the spirit that means now this is you know he's physically in the island of Patmos he's probably sitting and writing these things down but spiritually his spirit is now in a vision and he is seeing these things so spiritually he's seeing these things he's hearing what's happening in the spiritual realm physically he's most likely you know sitting somewhere on the island of Patmos and writing these things down so what does he see verse 2 he sees a throne and there one seated on the throne he's seeing a throne saying God's throne so this we often refer to as the throne room scene and he is seeing the throne room very throne room of God and then in verse 3 he begins to describe what he sees using colors but he is using precious stones stones that he knows about to describe the colors he is saying so this is a very grand grand great and grand scene of a throne room and there's a lot of vibrant colors a lot of colors different things that he's seeing and hearing and experimenting there's there's majesty there is something very majestic about this throne room and all John can do is he can talk about some precious stones to to reference those colors that he is seeing so he sees he says in verse 3 he sat was like Jasper and a sadist stone in appearance that means he's saying you know I'm seeing this person on this throne and there is colors like Jasper and a sadist coming out so Jasper most likely refers to something very clear and brilliant something like you know what you would say of a diamond and something very brilliant so it's clear and brilliant sadist is a stone it's a red color red like ruby so he's seeing brilliant white or clear brightness and red both these colors coming out of the being on the throne now he's just describing it using you know stones and what he knows about that stones he's saying it's like I'm seeing somebody who's like this Jasper and sadist stone and appears you know it doesn't mean God is a stone it doesn't mean that you see I'm seeing these colors coming out of this person now if you go by the premise that everything God is doing is fit is intentional then the reason God is getting John to see this should have some meaning and so this white light or brilliant light is talking about purity there's no uh or to say no dirt like diamond it's it's you know perfect no dirt brilliant white light clear and red of course talks about redemption because it talks about blood right there's so if you if you go by the meaning of the colors he's the redeemer he's the he's the one who redeems red blood you're trying to interpret the colors okay but we don't want to get too fixated on we know God is absolutely pure we know God is absolutely is is our great redeemer we know that already but we're just trying to put some meaning to these colors we can do it we don't do it it's fine our theology is not based on that our theology is based on the rest of scripture okay but i'm just trying to say like okay if God is doing all of this intentionally what would these things mean we can deduce some ideas and he says there was a rainbow around the throne in appearance like emerald emerald emerald is like greenish color this emerald stone it's like greenish color and so he's saying i'm seeing a something like a rainbow you know actually rainbow is multicolor seven colors but this thing around the throne is having predominantly this green greenish color so it's just a vibrant colors that he's seeing and then verse four he says around the throne are 24 thrones and he says 24 elders who are sitting so these elders what can we say about these elders first of all they are sitting on each one of them are sitting on a throne they are clothed in white robes and they had crowns of gold on their heads now obviously the question we would ask is who are these elders what does all this mean so first of all who are these elders so we tried to understand from Revelation four and verse four these are people who are sitting on thrones they're wearing white robes they're having golden crowns and then if you look at other places in Revelation so if you go with me over to Revelation 19 and verse 10 they're one of these elders so through the book of Revelation there are times you know an angel talks to John there are times an elder speaks to John so we have two records here in Revelation 19 10 where John is speaking with the elder and again in Revelation 22 and verse 9 again there's this elder speaking with John and if you look at both these verses Revelation 19 10 the elder says I am your fellow servant and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus so you're saying I'm your fellow servant and your brethren that means one of your Jewish brethren and I am I have the testimony of Jesus that means I also give testimony to Jesus then you again see in Revelation 22 and verse 9 the elder one of the elders says I am your fellow servant and of your brethren the prophets of those who keep the words of this book worship God so saying I'm your fellow servant and I'm one of the old one of the prophets could be the old testament prophets so based on these scriptures we can say that these elders are people they're not angelic beings or they're not some others they are people who died who are now there in heaven and also what else can we say we say that these elders have received their reward because they're wearing a crown and we see that the crown is promised as a reward to the believer and we are seeing them sitting on the throne now we just read in Revelation 3 21 that the throne is promised to a believer who overcomes and we see that these elders are wearing white robes so again white robe is promised we saw this earlier in Revelation 3 and verse 5 it is promised to a believer who's an overcome white robe so crown is given to a believer who overcomes the throne is given to a believer who overcomes and the white garment is given to a believer who overcomes so just based on all of these you know clear indicators we can say that we can say that these elders are actually believers in Jesus Christ who have overcome who have received their rewards so what else do we what else can we identify about these elders now based on Matthew 19 verse 28 Jesus told his 12 apostles he said you will sit with me around my throne Matthew 19 28 he told his apostles so it is likely that 12 of them could be the 12 apostles of the lamp likely i'm not saying for sure i'm just trying to connect scripture try to get some clues on who are these 24 elders we have established the fact that they're definitely human beings they're not angelic beings um one of the elders said i'm your fellow servant and your brethren meaning he's a Jew another elder said i'm your fellow servant and of the prophets so it gives us some clues Jesus told Matthew 28 19 28 to the apostles you will all sit with me on on thrones with me so it could be 12 of them are the 12 apostles that's not including Judas of course Judas was replaced by Matthias and the other reason we see is that in Revelation chapter 21 the 12 tribes are mentioned Revelation 21 verse 12 and Revelation 21 verse 14 the 12 apostles are mentioned so in the new city of Jerusalem the 12 apostles are honored by being the 12 foundations of the city the 12 tribes are honored by being given the names at the gate of the city are given the names of the 12 tribes so and also if you look at what we saw earlier Revelation 21 verse 22 verse 9 one of the elders said i am your fellow servant and your prophets so maybe is the other 12 are you know all testament prophets whom God has chosen so this is only you know this is just trying to guess okay i'm not saying for sure but based on all these scriptures what we can say for sure is these 12 these 24 elders are people they're not angels because they've already identified themselves i'm your fellow servant what we can guess is 12 of them are the 12 apostles the other 12 could be prophets from the Old Testament the whom whom whom or sorry whomever the Lord has chosen from the Old Testament because you know what we read in 22 Revelation 22 9 he said i am your fellow servant and of the prophets so based on that clue but the other thing that we can conclude yes Revelation chapter 4 is giving us a scene in heaven after believers have received the rewards which are why because these people are seated on the throne which is a reward these people are wearing crowns which is also a reward and they're waiting wearing white comments which is also a reward so that's what we are saying Revelation 22 or Revelation chapter 4 is starting from the time when the believers are in heaven and they are they have been given their rewards so this leads us to the conclusion that the rapture has already taken place before the scene of Revelation 4 because the believers are in heaven now we know that when a believer dies right now the body disintegrates on earth the spirit goes into heaven and we know that there is coming a time when believers will be judged this is first Corinthians chapter 3 second Corinthians chapter 5 and they will be given rewards so what we are again thinking through on this right it's not stated here but we're thinking through based on what we're seeing that most likely by the time Revelation 4 the scene in the future is being shown to John the rapture has taken place believers are up in heaven rewards have been given and these 24 saints perhaps 12 of them Old Testament saints 12 of them the apostles have been ushered into their place of honor as a reward and they're seated there so to me that that that seems like a very valid thought a very valid conclusion I don't you know find any problem with it so that's why you know that's one of the reasons we say by the time Revelation 4 starts the rapture has taken place the believers have received their rewards and here everything in the throne room is God is seated on this in this magnificent throne these people are all these people have been honored to be given you know 12 thrones on one side 12 thrones on the other side these are the apostles these are the you know Old Testament prophets people are you know are people from the Old Testament who have been honored by God and that's the scene you see and then he says in verse 5 from the throne proceed lightnings thunderings and voices meaning it's something you know John just uses words he says says you know it's like from the throne there is something so powerful it's like a combination of lightning and under and voice sound you know he's just trying to say there is this brilliant light and brilliant sound meaning it's overwhelming it's beyond what he can describe he's only capturing it and you know in words and pictures and language he has that's why he's using you know these are the colors I'm seeing and he's using precious stones and he's saying this is what I'm it's just so awesome so amazing it's like the sound of lightnings and thundering and all voices coming out of the throne very very majestic very powerful overwhelming and there he sees the Holy Spirit what's five he sees seven lamps of fire burning before the throne so seven lamps and he says these seven lamps are the seven spirits of God and we already explained from chapter one the phrase seven spirits of God represents the one Holy Spirit so I mean he's saying look the whole yeah so God is helping him understand that the Spirit of God the Holy Spirit is there in the throne room God the Father on the throne God the Spirit present right there before the throne and he's any and the image the visual image that is used to communicate the presence of the Holy Spirit is the seven lamps with fire you see this is the perfect Spirit of God so in the throne room called the Father brilliant color sound or magnificent sound the throne 24 elders will receive the rewards cloth and white crowns on the thrones and God the Spirit in the throne room okay so far everybody's with me any questions okay I see your yes in the chat clear in the chat okay so that's fine so what does he see happening in the throne room right so verses 6 to 11 somebody could read that please Revelation 4 6 to 11 before the throne there was a sea of us like a crystal and in the midst of the throne and around the throne where four living creatures full of eyes in front of infant and in back the first living creature was like a lion the second creature like a calf the third living creature had a face like a man and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle the four living creatures each having six wings we are full of eyes around and within and they do not rest at night saying holy holy holy Lord God Almighty who was and is and is to come whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him the throne believes forever and ever the 24 years fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him lives forever and ever and cast their crowns before the throne saying you are worthy a lot to receive glory and honor and power for you created all things by your will they exist and were created hmm so now verse 6 thank you thank you Thomas so he's seeing there's a crystal clear glass a sea of glass meaning it's like this huge wide you know sea so when you imagine a sea it's like this limitless surface of water in other words he's seeing like I'm seeing something so limitless but it's clear like crystal meaning is it's so perfect so clear and it's it's expanse is limitless around the throne and there he says I'm seeing four living creatures could they have been more could be but this is what he saw and then it's very strange so these of course are referring to angelic beings before living creatures they're angelic beings or other sometimes we refer to them technically as cherubins angelic beings and in verse 7 the sense the john is getting about each of these four creatures now there could be more right there could be more but he's only seeing for like we said you know he only saw seven churches there was a message given only to seven churches when they're actually but you know God is giving him a glimpse he's not necessarily seeing everything in heaven but he's he's seeing a glimpse a piece and he's recording that for us so he's seeing these living creatures around the throne these angelic beings and he's just using you know what he can understand from our earth he's using that to say like it looks like this or has this characteristic so a lion a calf faced like a man and an eagle lion and this was seven revolution four seven the living creature one was like a lion other was like a calf third was like a man had a face like a man and the fourth was like a flying eagle and each of these had six wings all of eyes around them and they do not rest day or night saying now for us as we read these two verses it's like I can't I can't even imagine what these creatures would have looked like like so my my hot hairs let's not worry too much about these living creatures other than they were angelic beings and john is trying to say in a very simple way what he felt about these creatures so talking about lion and talking about something very powerful a calf talking of something very timid man course relating to us people an eagle a flying eagle something that sees from a distance something that you know as a bird is very powerful that's all we can say and and them having six wings if you connect it to what is equal so an is equal chapter one when he saw the cherubim's he saw them moving very fast and so on and so maybe the wings are representing their ability to move very fast and the full of eyes around and within which again it's very very strange you know how do you picture that something like that but maybe that's just showing that they could see everything these angelic beings could see everything so what I want to just put forward is don't be so confused or overwhelmed or taken up by trying to figure out exactly what these angelic beings are these living creatures are because it's very confusing to put all of them you know how do you imagine a man an angelic being the face of a man six wings eyes everywhere what is it very strange but if we just take them as this is the sense john got when he saw these living creatures does it mean that these living creatures look exactly like that but the sense that he got when he saw these living creatures we can take it to mean you know this was kind of a character of that living creature one was like a calf very timid and it was it was very you could move anywhere in the spiritual realm and it could see anywhere in the spiritual realm so that's why he said calf with six wings and eyes everywhere one was very strong like a lion wings it could move anywhere see could see anywhere eyes everywhere it could see anywhere so that was that living creature so we take it like that again you know this is only a thought that i'm sharing i'm not you know we can't say anything for sure because it is not very obviously i would say it's very confusing if you're trying to piece versus seven and eight together but there are these angelic beings around the throne we just refer to them as cherubim's seraphim seraphim's and cherubim's seraphim's are primarily worshipping creatures cherubim's are involved in worship but they also go out to do certain things when god wants them to do and then there are their messenger angels and then there are the warring angels so there are different kinds of angelic beings and we are seeing some of them here in versus seven and eight but these angelic beings verse eight are involved in constant worship they they don't rest they are not they're just constantly worshipping before the throne seraphim's and cherubim's they just constantly worshipping and you know they may be sent out to do certain things from time to time and very interesting the one attribute of god that they are constantly worshipping is his holiness holy holy holy it's very interesting that means the throne room is filled with the awe and the sense of the holiness of god the perfection of god and then they say lord god almighty the sense of his power is almighty and who was who is and is to come is eternal attribute he was who is who is to come in he lives outside time so what do we see being mentioned here in the throne room the holiness of god the almightiness of god and the eternal attribute of god the one who was outside time you know just being worshipped saying god this is who you are you're absolutely holy you're absolutely almighty and you're absolutely eternal they're worshipping god and as they are worshipping god the saints the 24 elders who are the redeemed saints who are people who've been honored there in the throne room they have done a worship god and they're saying god you are worthy to receive all the glory and honor and power you are created so they're recognizing you are greater we are created beings and or you will be exist so they are worshipping so in the throne room worship worship is so important now what john does not see and it's not recorded for us is if before the throne is the sea of glass like crystal it's very possible the great multitudes of people are on that sea of glass also involved in worship and we will we will see coming later on in revelation i think 11 again in revelation 15 you will see that on the sea of glass actually i'm looking at revelation 15 verse 2 there are these people who've been redeemed who are standing and worshipping god revelation 15 too so it's quite possible that you know although john has described the throne room with 24 elders and these angelic four angelic creatures it's quite possible there are so many others on the sea of glass like we see in revelation 15 too i'm just worshipping god so what would it be like and you and i are there and you and i are standing on that sea of glass like crystal i'm meaning i i don't know it's probably it's just you know it's hard to imagine what it's like but we are in this presence everything is so clear and there's just pure worship holy holy holy lord god all my thing who was and is and is to come and everybody's just worship the living creatures the elders and all those who are standing on that sea of glass i'm just worshipping god and god is such that you and i may be amongst you know millions of others standing on that sea of glass worshipping but god is such that it's as though you are worshipping him alone so even though there are great multitudes it's like just you and god in that throne room on that sea of glass and you're worshipping i wonder how it feels you know i wonder how it how we would feel when we are there in that but that is coming thank god chapter five he continues his vision so the vision in the throne room continues uh let's read verses one two seven please revelation five one two seven please and i saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a skull right in inside and on the back seal with seven seals then i saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice who is worthy to open the scroll and to lose its seals and no one in heaven or no no the no the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to look at it so i wept much because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll or to look at it but one of the elders said to me do not be behold the lion of the tribes of Judah the root of David has prevailed to open the scroll and to lose its seven seals and i looked and behold in the mist of the throne and of the four living creatures and in mist of the leaders stood a lamp as so it had been slain having seven horns and seven eyes which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth then he came and looked the scroll out of the right hand of him who sat on the throne thank you so the the vision is continuing and john is seeing now he's seeing that on the throne god the father sorry he has in his right hand a scroll and there is something written inside and outside the scroll so the scroll the scroll often is used to represent the word of god the prophetic word things that god is speaking what has he has spoken and very interestingly when we looked at daniel in the 12th chapter the angel told daniel daniel whatever i have spoken to you has been sealed for the end of time you know this is daniel um chapter 12 and uh where's this here verse four the um shut up the words and seal the book until the time of the end right so in other words uh and then he says this again in verse nine uh daniel the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end so daniel uh daniel chapter 12 uh verses four and nine the angel had spoken and said to daniel you know daniel they're sealed till the time of the end that means till the time it's on hold it's on pause but then the time will come when those words will begin to be fulfilled so we are there in revelation five one we are there those words that have been spoken by the prophets which god has spoken to the prophets they've been sealed and they're waiting to be fulfilled so that's the scroll and uh they noticed john he says a strong angel with a loud voice see there's a strong angel so a sense of strength he can get and he sees this particular angel and is speaking with a very loud voice very strong voice who can open the scroll and uh the sense john gets is nobody can so he weeps and even this expression is a weeping is in the spirit right because on the earth john is sitting and writing the revelation but spiritually he's having this experience he's seeing his yearning his feeling all these things so um the spiritual man is as real as the natural man the natural man is sitting and writing these things spiritual man is experiencing seeing all these things and um then one of the elders come and say hey john don't weep and he refers to jesus says the line of the tribe of jesus so look at how jesus the son of god or the eternal word how he is uh the titles that are being used the lion of the tribe of juda i mean this is the most powerful one from the tribe of juda he's a root of david that means he's a descendant of david referring to his earthly lineage uh juda also referring to his earthly lineage he is the one who can open the scroll that means to open the scroll means start fulfilling these things the time for the fulfillment of all these prophecies has come so literally when jesus comes forward and opens a scroll he is you know what to say starting the time to fulfill everything that is written in the scroll the prophecies that have been given they've been sealed to the time of the end but now it'll start so john sees verse six he sees a lamb as though it had been slain so again another reference to jesus the lion of the tribe of juda the root of david the lamb as there have been slain in all pictures of jesus so we are seeing in the throne room we have seen god the father we have seen the holy spirit god the holy spirit now we are seeing god the son or the eternal word jesus christ and interestingly in verse six he says this lamb as though has been slain has seven horns seven eyes which are the seven spirits of god so jesus the lamb of god so again remember all these of pictures he's saying but it's actually representing the person of christ the lamb of god christ the lamb of god has seven horns seven represents perfection horns represents dominion power authority that means here is the one who has all authority perfect authority and he's having this the seven horns and seven eyes represent the seven spirits of god he says then verse six so the lamb is anointed by the holy spirit and the holy spirit is represented by seven horns and seven eyes as upon the lamb so we know jesus was anointed a seven spirit of god is the holy spirit seven horns talking about perfect dominion seven eyes talking about perfect knowledge eyes omniscience knowledge so what i want to want you to see is the holy spirit is represented by seven lamps of fire seven horns and seven eyes seven lamps of fire we saw in revolution four verse five seven horns and seven eyes revolution five and verse six all representing the holy spirit so the holy spirit seven spirits of god seven lamps talking about his omnipresence because light is you know travels everywhere seven horns representing omnipotence seven eyes representing omniscience he knows everything seven spirits of god and the lamb has this on him he's anointed by the spirit and this person verse seven comes and takes the scroll he's the one who's going to set these things in motion so he is the beginning of creation he is also here the one who starts the fulfillment of these prophecies so what we will see next week as we continue this is from this point on from this point on as jesus begins to open the scroll all the end time prophecies begin to be fulfilled that is chapter six verse one starts happening but before chapter six verse one has started what has happened the elders have been seated on the throne they have received the rewards the clothing white that means the saints have been given the rewards so something has happened in heaven before these things start here or not okay so we're going to pause here we'll spray in dismission and we will continue this next week somebody could pray for us please and we will dismiss Dave you want to pray Father we thank you Lord Jesus for this time for this class of Jesus thank you that you are with us here and able to learn so much things from from from the book of Rebels and from book of Daniel but we thank you we thank you for the pastor as well Lord Jesus we pray that this all this listen will help us understand more about your kingdom and the day of your kingdom to come Lord Jesus I have this one of us Lord Jesus we thank you for this opportunity once again and we we start with this time and in the name of Jesus I pray amen amen thank you we'll take a break and I'll see you in the next class thank you bye now


It may be crude, it may be rude, but it's definitely funny. Hey guys, now kind of a random review here, but uh, had some time and I watched the movie The Comedian, which stars Robert De Niro as made last year. This is a movie that apparently Robert De Niro has been trying to make for over 8 years. It had a lot of different directors, including Sean Penn, who are attached to it, even Martin Scorsese was in the works of trying to get his director for it. But the thing that I, the reason I want to review this movie is because of how low its rating is on IMDb, it's got a 5.7 on IMDb and in my opinion it doesn't deserve that. Sure the film is excessively long, sure the movie kind of just takes a pause for in terms of story when it comes to these comedic bits, but this movie for one is very funny. If anything, it's kind of just an in-between mix of different comedic moments as well as Robert De Niro absolutely slaying on the mic in different situations and different moments with extremely grotesque, if not somewhat borderline humor.  And they're funny, admittedly he would in real life probably be booed out, but they're actually really funny. The whole thing about the film is that his character Jackie is a old aging comedian who his heyday has come and gone. And he's basically been kind of trying to work out of the shadow of his fame from a TV show called Eddie's Home, which is like an old kind of like sitcom thing. And it's really an interesting idea because that can represent a lot of actors in current day, a lot of people who worked in sitcoms. But there's a lot of different actors who have constantly been living in the shadow of their previous works and try to establish themselves as something different. For instance, Eddie's Home, he was kind of like the angry Burke or the Al Bundy, less stupid, but what he's trying to do is work himself, he's been trying to establish himself for years or decades as a great insult comedian and he is. And there's some scenes that are absolutely great. But what's also cool is just the humility and the fragility of the character, where he meets Leslie Mann after doing during his community service. And the relationship they have is actually kind of not one you would expect. The movie itself is a lot of things he wouldn't expect. There's moments of his humility. There's moments of where he has to kind of he should do the right thing, but he doesn't. The character himself of Jackie Burke is one of the coolest characters I've seen in a little long time. And like I said, it helps that this movie is super freaking funny. Admittedly, the ending is just a little bit kind of sudden, but otherwise I enjoyed it. I think it's a cool look at comedians. I think it's a cool look at their life. Their revolving sort of interest kisses. And also the cameos are great. There's a lot of actual current day comedians in this movie who appear and they have their own stand up. Billy Crystal's in it too. Billy Crystal's actually quite funny in it. He's only got a really small part, but it's actually quite funny, especially when you see the background extra who's in the scene with them, break face, like smile during some of their jokes. It's really good. If anything, this is a movie that I would enjoy, but I can understand why people wouldn't enjoy it. Like I said, the humor is very crude. It does take a tangent a lot of times to the movies to just show comedians as well as the runtime is excessive. But I enjoy it. I think it's funny. If people out there who like movies starring comedians, kind of talking about the all idea of what a comedian aspect is, you should definitely watch this movie. It's a very cool, intrusive look into the life of a comedian as well as someone just working out of their own shadow. So in the end, I'm going to give the comedian a five out of seven. I would have given it a high rating if it didn't have that excessive runtime as well as the ending. I don't know, the ending still kind of needs a little bit, but otherwise I had a great time. I could rewatch this movie again and again because of how funny it is.  It's just comedian humor. Like stand up comedian humor. Anyways, guys, I hope you enjoyed this review. I'll see you guys next time.


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I couldn't do it. I got too much respect and love for for you know for him and his family It is different when you know that it could be you he could be anybody and how was my daughter feel? How would my wife feel then? You know you got people want to say he was on these drugs and I That's the crazy keeping my his wife was with him. She was there. She was there. Oh, dang How is she handling that cuz to see that on in person? It's totally different Man, I know I know she got to be You know past devastating Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one Yeah, we gonna talk. I mean, I'm telling you right now. You got a value the time you have with your loved ones, bro That's all it is to it. You know what I'm saying like I Get mad. I don't play bro Like if you disrespect and ain't gonna say no name, but it's been certain people if you say something about your mama Or something like that. I can't deal with that. That mess with me I can't stand it at all. I don't care if you could be a crackhead or anything. You better never disrespect I'm not playing with that. Yes at all. You don't know what these women had to do. I grew up leaving that, you know Mm-hmm. You got it. I never was too far the daddy's but you You you got to do something for me You got to tell me about that let that last project with a big pokey Just so just down memory lane like how was it working with him doing that project? Easy easy easy me and pokey, you know, we are always told each other by he say I'm his favorite And I was there to know he my favorite. Wow when the beat drop sit It's whoever going up first and he don't write either He right, but I don't know his I haven't seen him right. So I think he's prepared Okay, but when we went in there, you know, I ain't seen right. Mm-hmm, but uh That dude every man. I can't believe he not No, it's as much as he's supposed to be like What was the thing about him that inspired you the most his miracle content like we was your and he dropped that hard It's a little trip with me as I infiltrate your dog I'm to the point and I'm also keep it drowsy mind boggling. Yeah. Yeah, that was right Yeah, yeah, I think I knew it was more Yeah, but you know what I wonder cuz you know sometimes like before he passed away Before he passed away this one might have been the one that you was listening to the most But after he passed away, there might be another one that might be more that you listen to more because whether he was or not One more or because of what he said in that song.  So how did you how did you get come to sit here to do that? It had happened. Oh my god on my way to Houston. They call me I Just talked to him And told him my show is mine over before yours. I'm gonna come around I mean, yeah, yeah When I got the call it was all Screaming So it was happening right then and there. Yeah, at that very moment But then let me ask you a question how Because when we heard about it well, he heard about it way longer before I even got up Yes, he was asleep. But by the time I got up out of my bed and I heard about it was all over social media That was a bad. How do you feel about social media and the fact that they can film that and put it all over for everybody? See because to me in my head, I'm like, there's probably some family members who don't even haven't heard about it yet and to see that Yeah, I think it's the price it come with it come with the territory because all the reason why I wasn't It's angry with this situation because y'all was recording him You're right, so y'all gonna be recording his performance, but it's still people who wouldn't be recording at all And they see that and then they'll come over there for you know I don't know what to make this that's some of the best entertainment. Yeah, I never I wouldn't be sure I couldn't do it I Got too much respect in love for you know for him and his family It is different when you know that it could be you he could be anybody and how was my daughter feel How would my wife feel then you know you got people want to say he was on these drugs and That's the crazy my his wife was with him. She was there. She was there How is she handling that because to see that on in person is totally different man. I know I know she gotta be You know past devastated However, the way she holding it down, you know since she died and holding him down and holding their family down I ain't seen too many people strong It's my Wow, that's crazy. I'm just I you know, I like to say I wanted to interview him He was a Just a talent, bro. Just a just a dope. Really just a realist, bro And I just was like dang man. I couldn't I couldn't fathom it man It's something you a leader in in the city, bro Like and I remember and and not trying to bring up Ole Miss But just I remember how you was vocal when when the tray and zero thing happened You went you went crazy about it because I felt like you was connected to both of them and it was frustrating to you And that's why you were speaking. I don't know but in my mind. I'll be trying to figure this stuff out Now you you're in the nail on the head. This is your pride. This our business. I mean everybody in the city know That me and Trey You know probably, you know, the two closest When they come to you know, you know But you know I'm just me personally when I'm seeing I'm so far Texas in the city I came up on the pimp scene. Yeah, you know, I mean knocking those down So, you know, I'm just so far us to be together That's just man. That was a major week For the city too. You know, I mean it was a lot of big things going on and it just you know I I can't stand the city made it I couldn't when I seen any anything Like that would have shook me but them too I just really uh You know, that'll be one of the best things can happen to Houston If them two Was coming back together. Do you think it might be possible though? Anything possible anything I come from the bottom up. You know, I mean the bottom of the bottom. Yeah I'm the last person to Tell you something that's impossible Everything that's happening or not was impossible. You know, I mean


I'm going to start off right away and asking you to give us kind of a status of the current marketplace and what does it look like. Yeah, so it's so different than what 10 months ago 11 months ago. So I'm happy to say business is busy the the market has picked up quite a bit I would say even since to be honest and on duration day. Obviously, it was slow again for the holidays, but it's been busy. So we're we're into it. I think that a lot of what I was seeing, especially for leadership positions, you know, seven months ago, eight months ago, even into, you know, the summer and the fall last quarter. It was kind of that wait and watch approach, which a lot of organizations were taking for higher level level roles. And now people are in it. You know, I do think that nonprofits took a little while to get used to sort of onboarding and that sort of thing remotely but but they're in it and they're hiring and business is kind of, I don't want to say 100% back to normal for me but I feel busy again, which is super nice so people are hiring.


What's going on, everyone? Sam here with late sports cards, ripping 22 at pops, diamond icons, baseball, one box break, number 66, random hit style, there's the box. Wait, this is gonna work. So when we bring you over to the random.org, we've got one random.org window that has all 10 of our participants. We also have an additional random.org window, which is where all of our hits are gonna go. As we are doing the break, Donnie is gonna be typing in the random hits over on our random hit sheet. Once all of the cards have been revealed and I've showed them all off, I will copy over the hits to the random.org window in front of you. And then we will random both the names and the hits the same amount of times, and then match up with whatever hit is next to your name is the hit you will receive. If there are more than 10 hits in the box, we will combo what we deem the two least valuable. So good luck, guys. Let's do some icons. And that's always big. Let's take some UFC spots. Let's go, Kyle. We've got nice. For the Yankees, that is Derek Jeter, eight of 10 on the game use jersey. Good luck on that one. Eight of 10, Derek Jeter. We've got Jose Altuve on the acetate auto for the Astros 20 of 25. And 20 of 25. We've got for the Cubs, that is two of 25. That is gonna be Andre Dawson. Andre Dawson, nice one there. The Hawk. We've got seven of 25. That is gonna be Xander Bogart's two colored patch auto. Game use for the Red Sox, the X-Man. Nice Xander. Nice one here. We've got numbered eight of 25. That is Chipper Jones. Nice Chipper on the two colored game use patch auto for the Braves. Chipper. Next up, we've got 19 out of 25 is Eloy Jimenez. For the White Sox, nice Eloy. Congrats and good luck on that one. We've got four of 25. Red Ink Auto is gonna be Jack Flaherty for the cards. Nice one there, Cardinals. Followed by, that is 17 out of 25, George Springer. For the Blue Jays, nice one there, Toronto. Congrats on the Springer. You can mag this one, Donnie. Got three of 10. That is gonna be a Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Congrats on that. Nice Vladdy G. See what this is, number two. We've got a redemption coming up after this. Nice Vladdy. Ooh, that's nasty. That's gonna be, you can mag this one for sure. How about number to 10? Autograph Black Parallel, Wander Franco. Boom, let's go, baby. Nice Wander. Heck yeah, let's do it. Autograph Black Parallel of Mr. Wander. Wander Franco. And to finish us off, we've got eight of 25, Mark McGuire. One half of the Bash Bros. Congrats on the McGuire. We do have 11 hits, I'm assuming, right? Yeah. Yes, we do have 11. We're gonna combo the Flaherty and the Jeter. I think that's probably pretty self-explanatory. Everybody will get a auto, that means, very nice. Let me copy these over. All right guys, we're gonna do the random. Good luck, gonna roll the dice. Gonna random each five times. One, two, three, four, five. John A, down to John A. Five times on your hits. One, two, three, four, and five. Springer, down to Altuve. John A with the Springer, that's 25. Joe L, Xander Bogart's patch auto, that's 25. Alexandros, Mark McGuire auto, eight of 25. Scott F with the Wander Redemption. Congrats, buddy, nice one there, Scott. William C, Vladimir Guerrero Jr. auto, three of 10. Joseph D, picking up the Derrick, Jeter Relic, and the Jack Flaherty auto. John A with the Eloi, 19 of 25. Edward P is picking up the Andre Dawson, the Hawk, two of 25. Greg M, Tripper Jones patch auto, eight of 25. Nice, and John A with the Jose Altuve, 20 of 25. That'll do it for the break, guys. We'll get these results posted over and we'll get on to the next one.