So we're here at the Computex 2018 here with the Silicon Labs. And who are you? Steven Lin from Taipei. And what's the latest with the, this is the Mighty Gecko chipset, right? Right. Arm Cortex M4? Right. So what's the latest with this? The latest feature of the Mighty Gecko is that it supports multiple protocol. And currently this, we call it dynamic multiple protocol. It runs Bluetooth and ZigBee in parallel. So it's one microcontroller, Arm Cortex M4, can do both? How is that possible? So you might take use of very powerful RTOS, so it can switch from BLE to ZigBee and or ZigBee to BLE very quickly. So it keeps changing from one to another. With no delay? Very fast, very small delay, like a few microseconds. And what is this Micrium RTOS? Is it one of the leaders in the RTOS world or? Yes, it was the number one in the commercial RTOS. It has famous RTOS called Micro-COS 2 and Micro-COS 3. It's not open source, no? No, no. So you collaborate with Micrium 2? We acquired it about two years ago. You acquired it, so it's your solution? Yes. Your optimization, everything is? Yes. And what are you demonstrating here? Okay, let me show you that how we can control it via ZigBee and Bluetooth.  And I can control it via the Bluetooth.   At the same time, one chip? Yes, from the system, from the user point of view, you have no idea that it runs only one chip, but it supports two protocols perfectly.  Yes. In the world? Nobody else can do. I believe we are the best. And Bluetooth is a big deal for IoT and ZigBee is a big deal for IoT. Which one is bigger? For IoT part, I think now the market size is about the same size, I guess. But sometimes ZigBee has a longer range? What is the ZigBee advantage compared to Bluetooth? Or the same range? Is the same spectrum? Or what is it? Long range is because ZigBee's data rate is smaller. So in terms of designs, you use a smaller data rate, you can achieve longer distance. But doesn't Bluetooth have a solution for this? Maybe Bluetooth 5 is lower bandwidth also? Yes, Bluetooth now has Bluetooth 5. It adds four types of distance. So now it increases from Bluetooth 4. It's because of the lower data rate. Right. It's the only reason it can go farther. Right, right. So is it as similar data rate as the ZigBee? Even smaller. Smaller than the ZigBee. But this is not Bluetooth 5, Devo? Is it Bluetooth 5 also? It supports Bluetooth 5, but it now runs the Bluetooth 4 stack. All right. So our main focus here is that you can switch from one to another. So maybe we can just check over here. Can you introduce over here? Some more Bluetooth 5 demos over here? Okay. Maybe just jump on the side here. So a whole bunch of Bluetooth 5, right? Okay. So we have all the Bluetooth 5 features. For example, the 2-Mega 5, the Coded 5, Long Range 5, and the 8-Times or the Valkyrie. What do you say the 5? The 4th and 5th have 3 features. The 2nd and 5th, all the features implemented. This is the same chipset? Yeah, the same chipset. Mighty Gecko. Is that the best chipset in Siliconabs? Or what is Mighty Gecko? Yes, yes. The best one. Yeah, the best one. The most important one. Yes, yes. We don't have more high performance than this. I think it's powerful enough for the IoT environment. It has Cortex M4 inside, and up to 1 MHz, Flash. 1 Mb Flash. So you do voice of a Bluetooth LE? Yes. Sensor into cloud connectivity of a Bluetooth? Yes, and with the 4th HomeKit revision 12, it's the newest standard from HomeKit. And the throughput? So Bluetooth 5 can do further distance, it can also do more bandwidth too, also? Yeah, it's about 2 times the bandwidth increased from Bluetooth 4. How did they do that? Why did they change? The fight area is changed. So now it can increase about 2 times speed. What is this over here? Is this a micro... Is it a memory LCD? Right, our device is here. This is our development board. This is the E-ink, no, memory LCD, yeah? Yeah. And this is development board for Bluetooth. What's the name of this development board? Oh, we call it wireless starter kit. What's the price? The whole price? Yeah. It's about 100. So this is controlling lights in like a mesh or...? Yeah, in a mesh. So they are all connected. Light, light, light. And this is a switch. I can control it from here. Turn it on and turn it off. I can also control it via our app. For example, I control it light C and turn it off. All right, so how many millions of products using silicon labs in the world? Or billions? You mean a year or...? How big is all the solutions? Several hundred million. 700 million devices? Are you using Mighty Gecko or some other solution? Mighty Gecko, how popular is Mighty Gecko so far? I think it's about... We have shipped it about 200 million or 300 million. 200 million already? For the last two, three, four years or how long? Right, right. Our wireless revenue, I mean the Mighty Gecko revenue is about 200 million, I mean the revenue. So the device volume is about half of that. Nice. And then you have a new solution that you're showing right here. You can introduce it. This is Z-Wave. It's from Sigma-T9. We just acquired Sigma-T9 in April. It's a sub-gearhertz protocol similar to ZigBing. How does it compare with ZigBing? Actually, we just focused on home. And actually, we go on a sub-gearhertz land. We enhance the inter-appliability function. So the specification for each device is a requirement. So I didn't quite get that. So how is Z-Wave better? Why are people interested in Z-Wave? Because they will go through the sub-gearhertz so it can get in maybe the further channel. It will be less noise compared with the 2.4 gigahertz. So it can go through the walls? It can go further away? Yes, go through the wall and further away because the frequency is lower. That means the energy is stronger. Of the oil, it's stronger. So we can deliver a longer distance. So let's say you have a house with three floors. You can have one base station, and then the whole house is OK. Yes, because we're a mess-in-the-walker. We're also a mess-in-the-walker. Each of the test devices, they can use the mesh power. So just only one of these? Then it's enough to do the mesh networking. So the AC mains, each AC mains devices can be the repeater. So it covers the ranges inside the house. And so what's the chip set in here? What's the chip set? Yeah. Currently we call the 500 series chip. What do you call it? 500 series chip. The Z-Wave 500 series chip. Now we are going to announce the 700 series chip in late of this year. What's the difference? The difference is that 700 series gets lower power consumption and longer range. It's perfect. People want lower power and longer range, right? Yeah. But what is the chip set? Is it ARM, Cortex, and? OK. Now in 500 series, it's 851 core. In the future, the 700 series, it will be ARM Cortex M4. M4? Yes. So how about consideration in doing like Cortex M33 or M23 or some of the maybe Cortex M7? There's no announcement about this yet, right? For from the Silicon Labs? But Gino, is there any ARM V8M announcements? Using the newest ARM technology? Yeah, it's not announced yet, right? We only talk about Cortex M4. Yeah, we have, in fact, we have sampled that in a few months. Yeah, we have. So that will be for some future product, right? Right, I might not be able to talk about that too much. Yeah, it's secret. So how is it going to be to have the Cortex M4 compared to the other one? It improves something? Like it can improve which one? The other one? 851, yeah. Because what is the efficiency improvements? And just using ARM as the same nanometers? Because the ARM needs less energy, so the power consumption can be lower. And also, the possession power is higher than 851. So is it the same nanometer? Same process? The process node? No, the ARM process is more advanced. Compared to 851. So maybe the chip will be smaller? Will be smaller? All right. So how popular is the solution right now? How many million product have this? The Z-Wave product has already 100 million devices in the market today. More than 100 million. With the 500 series? With staff from 100 series, 200 series, up to 500 series. And they all use the same architecture? Use the same architecture, same profile. So it's begot compatible. The 500 series today can control 100 series probably 10 years ago, more than 10 years ago devices. It's still working, still working. For all these sensors and lights and everything? Exactly. And how's the software difference between 500 and 700 series? Because Z-Wave is defining the application level profile. So application profile from the first day of the Z-Wave initiative up until now, they are all the same. They are using the same architecture. And are you the leader in the Z-Wave in the world? Well, for home control, IOT, yes. But some other companies do outside the home? Yeah, because Z-Wave is only focused on home. We are not doing any industry or any hospitalize, something like that. We only focus on home. That would be a different protocol or different? Different requirement. Different maybe Lora or something else. Lora or something else, yes. Maybe Silicon Labs has other product for this maybe? Yeah, also, yeah. It's cool.


Hello, and welcome back to the craft books. My name is Brent and today we're in episode 261 of the death walkthrough Death fungus they're cute and stuff, but unfortunately they have to go. I thought there was some dialogue here I just wasn't too sure also this death, so Who who thought that was a good idea King's Isle not me But yeah, I'll be back. I know really weird starting off an episode and already cut It's great. Trust me. I'll be back once I've got up to a boss and we'll chat some more Okay, I'm back really simple really quick. They remove my blades with sirens. God love it, but I quit so it's fine It's it's all good. Um, but yeah, anyway, welcome back to the death walkthrough. My name is Brent if you didn't know Last time if you haven't seen it already you should we defeated Necro ant who was also death There's just a lot of death at the moment everywhere. It's really frustrating We are also slowly dying. It's great. Trust me. It's fine Don't worry about me. We'll be good. Um, but yeah, hi, it's been a while. I know crazy, right? Yeah Hopefully I will try and record a couple more episodes in the coming days So we'll have a few things. Wow, I'm creating like so much today. What is this? What is this? What's the sorcery is this since when do I crit never never you cannot resist press on to your death That's not if that isn't like scary. I don't know what is oh look. There's more of them. Wow These guys are so annoying. I don't like them at all But yeah, we'll be back in a sec once we've defeated these guys as well Okay, I'm back once more defeated these guys again. Nice to be Lulu to finish it off also gets me health. So it's fine. It's really good But yeah, there's a couple of things that have changed Since last time I have uploaded And I've actually recorded so it's been a while since I've actually recorded I don't record too much anymore, which is kind of sad and we'll be changing soon But yeah videos are every Truggles let death wash over you.  Um, but yeah, oh look, it's a boss finally. Thank goodness So yeah videos and now Are we there yet a child of Raven you hold up prisoner release her or perish I mean, we're not holding her prisoner, but that's fine But anyway, as I was saying videos are now every second day because I am busy apparently now So unfortunately we had to I had to we had to I had to cut back on the amount of videos that I make Which is sad. I know it's really really sad I I too enjoy making videos for you but unfortunately for now I have to cut back on the Number of videos I post each week because I don't have enough time to edit and record Each day for a new video So yeah, that is probably gonna happen it Definitely all of next year as well. That was the plan anyway for next year to be Like videos every second day. So, you know, it's fine. Oh, he's cheats. I can't even remember what he does Let's equalize the situation. Oh gosh. I Don't like this. I have no idea what that does. I have no idea what happens. I'm confused and don't like it Minus 40 that's fun I'm assuming we cannot Get rid of the bubble because that would be just too simple, you know, that would be way too simple for King's I'll You know that would make it way too easy apparently We should be fine though. I mean, we don't even have a bubble in to replace it with so it's not like it's a big deal Those are definitely death Definitely death, which is fine.  I know you can't do that.  It's rigged. It's a rigged the game is rigged We're gonna faint again, then we're gonna blade twice then we're gonna hit with a Lulu should kill the minions Not sure about the boss. He is quite a tough cookie. So we'll see I'm assuming we can um Prism I'm assuming that's how a resist works. I'm assuming he resists death But then again, I don't know what resist death from the astro skills because it's just kind of weird So, yeah, we actually have to Lulu pretty desperately. I might have to do that like next Yeah, because here's a lot of perps You crew on me, which is not fun. We're gonna blade and hit next is definitely what we're gonna do because we are dying Thank goodness. We got a good blade really good Thank goodness. We also got an enchant for Lulu as well The only thing we have an enchant for enchants are like terrible like I cannot pull enchants today for anything It's ridiculous so bad adapt He's adapting to the situation. Oh Yes Okay, he didn't crit this time, which is good These guys crit so much though like what the heck the um the other guys the the cool mushroom people Those are cool. I like them really well done They also crit quite a bit as well. I'm getting fun cool. That's great if you have vibrations just my phone We gonna we gonna not answer that right now Great great work crit here we go look at me go I can crit all the time Can't catch me. I'm the crit God. Yeah, that's right. Oh, we know here is this life.  We're good.  Okay, then um the question is We could go for a deer cano, which would kill it because I mean we have enough enough for it Anyway, we might as well just kill there's no point dragging this on for much longer We have full health.  So um, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at that easy clap easy clap. I don't know if he resisted.  We're here to save her We need to get her to the cave of quickening immediately your mercy proves your words You cannot reach the cave of quickening this way. I have collapsed this end of the ashen caves to protect it I will lead you to the cave of quickening by another way Okay, good job. You lead us by another way Weirdo weirdo, can't you see where the defender of the land and sky we can do whatever we want But yeah, you're gonna go talk to him. We get so much exp.  I love it. I absolutely love it We also I haven't been questing enough so we're also leveling up really slowly, but it's fine I'm Completely happy with it. This hidden path will take us to the cave of quickening. Let us enter Okay, let's go on. Let's go in. Let's do it Let's do it. See what's behind it behind the path. Oh Look, it's the cave of quickening. Well, look, it's copy and pasted from Mirage. Wow, isn't that fantastic? I'm so rude. I'm so bad Hi children of the new age you have much to explain The son of spider is responsible for this these are troubling tidings in the temple of light We sense Malory's distress from afar Raven said portents of something happening in the dying jungles that must be stopped Can it be she meant for me to stop you? I find looking upon this child that I move to help her and help you your hearts are strong and good Malory must be restored to help place her in the light the light magic bound into the great paradox chain will sustain her body Okay, let's get into it. There's nothing to do now, but wait time for you to get her spirit back Head off to dream land or wherever you would venture into the reverie beware wizard That place can be dangerous indeed. Yeah. You're telling me it can be dangerous. We must move quickly. Oh Hi, hi, how are you? Surrounding Imperia makes projection difficult, but it is weakening I will open the portal to the reverie go through it quickly Do not fear was it I will guard her as I would the temple of light. It's good luck You know what I really like is how all of the council of light are with us at the moment It's so good like we haven't seen that since some Chrysalis is quite exciting to have them back. I think in my opinion I have always liked them popping up randomly and just talking to you Wanderer Okay, let's talk to the curator Mortals are Unwelcome here, but I see you are the scion of bottle be you are more than mortal welcome Every mind casts a shadow every thought has an echo This is where they join these portals go to many places and touch many miles Welcome scion to nexus the center of the reverie This is a place of memory and feeling where thoughts are real and matter is but a dream I know who you seek Mallory has journeyed deep into her own memories And I will help you find Your mind is now tied to the reverie a dream echo of your stream portal is now manifest Is if you lose your way Scion of bottle be that doorway leads to Mallory I will open it for you take it as you will find Okay, we're gonna leave off here for today. I know it's probably a short episode I don't actually know how long it is usually have a timer, but I forgot to time So that's why I'm also ending it because I don't know how long it is try and get this short as normal But next time we will be heading into the dream shrine We'll be seeing what's in there Lots of little surprises if you haven't found out already, but I know most of you probably have already played through but It's exciting what's in here. But anyway, thank you for watching and to the like and subscribe if you're very subscribe Press the little bell soon know exactly when I post another video and remember craft outside the box


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I got lots to tell you. Been trying to get in touch with you for the last couple of hours. Where you been? Out to dinner with Valentine? Go ahead. Sorry Guthrie, I haven't seen Val today. She hasn't answered her phone.  Anyhow, I've been working hard. Oh, I had a little excitement here at the laboratory an hour or so ago. Thought we had a prowler on the grounds. But guess it was a false alarm. Nerves, I guess. What's your news, Guthrie? I've got a bit for you myself, but let's hear yours first. Go ahead. Okay. Well, as far as I'm concerned, kiddo, you can set up a date for demonstration for the Army signal corps and the Naval Ordnance people just as soon as you like. We're in the clear now for keeps. I got the last bug out of the screen this morning and it ought to make the prettiest little image you ever saw. If the brass hats put the steam on, I don't see why it shouldn't be in there fighting in a couple of months. Now let's hear about you. Go ahead. Boy, that sounds great. Hold it, Guthrie. Something going on here. Keep listening. I'll be back in a second. Who is it? Who's out there? Who's there? Get up there or I'll shoot. Come out! Stop! Stop! What is it, Lockwood? Howard, what's the shooting? Is that you coughing? Lockwood, is that you? Go ahead. Hello, Guthrie? I saw him that time. Almost got him with my rifle. Wonder what that guy can want. Well, I know one thing he's got and that's a sore throat. Boy, did you hear that call? Go ahead. I'm worried, Lockwood. Somebody must be getting wise to what we've got. We better arrange for more protection around the lab. Well, you've heard my say of it. How are you getting on with the blueprints? Go ahead. Did you hear me howl? Go ahead. W1-QXL, W1-QXL. What's happened? Come back in. Go ahead. Hello. This is W1-QXL. I, uh, I'm going away. I'm going skiing. I'm going skiing up in Sunbury, Vermont at the Phoenix Hotel. The Phoenix. Have you got that, Frank? Frank, what's all this about you going skiing? 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But those marks and bruises, suppose he'd been beaten, hit over the head in order to make him... In order to make him what? I can't say any more, Dr. Borne. I don't know quite what I'm talking about anyhow, I guess. You see, Howard had been experimenting with something. He had a collaborator. Collaborator? Yes, I don't know who. Howard would never... Well, he used to talk with this other man on shortwave. They both had shortwave sets. Radio ham, you call, and those amateur radio operators. Yes. Well, I must go. Oh, let me help you with your coat, Dr. Borne. Oh, thank you. I must say that after talking to you, I'm partly convinced, Miss Ames, but murder is a pretty difficult thing to prove, especially in this case. Oh, excuse me. I'll be going then. I... Hello? Yes? Mr. Guthrie? Well... Oh, I see. Well, a few was a friend. I... Where? In the drugstore? Yes, I'll wait. Just come right up to apartment 15E. Yes. Goodbye. Thank you again for your trouble, Dr. Borne. Well, please feel that you can co... Co... I'll get you some water. No, no, no. Don't bother. Too many cigars. Bad larynx. I'm awfully sorry. I'll say goodbye. Sure you're all right? No, it was perfect. I'll keep in touch with you, Miss Ames. Yes. Well, goodbye now. Oh, just a minute. Hello. You must be Valentine Ames. Yes, I am. I'd recognize you anywhere. Well, just, uh, are you Mr. Guthrie? Just wear your things in that chair there.  Lockwood spoke of you so often. Howard spoke of me? Do you? Well, you were engaged to be married, weren't you? No, I was fond of him, but never that way. He told me that is he said... Then you were his collaborator. Oh, please, Mr. Guthrie, you can trust me. I need help. They all say his death was an accident. A coroner, the newspapers, the police. But I know it wasn't. How do they say it happened? An explosion in his laboratory. Chemicals he was using in his experiments. Nonsense. Explosion. Wasn't anything more explosive in Lockwood's lab than a pack of matches? Then you were his collaborator. Oh, please, trust me. Lockwood was murdered. I know it. You think so too, then? Yes. Well, then our job is to prove he was murdered. No, I'm sorry, Val. There's something more important that comes first.  Well... Your invention? But have an invention is worthless. But I have the other half. In other words... Yeah. I'm next. We can count on that. But they don't know who you are. Maybe not, yet. That was why Lockwood kept calling me Frank when he was talking to me near the end. He didn't want to give my name away to them. And you've no idea who they are. Just something we could start on. It was just one thing. That night, the night he was killed, we were talking in a short wave, and he'd been bothered by a prowler. He spoke of it. I even heard the phone in the air. He was... Hold on. Excuse me a second. Hello? Yes? Oh, Dr. Borbert. Yes, it's nice of you to call me back. And thank you so much for sending Dr. Vaughn to see me. He certainly is... Dr. Vaughn. But... You sent him to see me about Dr. Lockwood. About... Dr. Edwin Vaughn? You're positive? I see. Well, thank you anyway. Bye. What's up? Someone just before you came, and Dr. Edwin Vaughn said he was with the coroner's office. Called on me. And the coroner's office never heard of him? Never. Uh-huh. Who was he? I mean, what did he look like? Would you recognize me if you saw him again? Well, he was just a middle-aged fellow. Poor man had a terribly bad cough. One of the really hacking coughs. A cough? Yes. It's the same one. He came to Howler's lab the night of the killing. I heard him. You sure? Positive. You see, it fits. He was looking for me. Figured I'd come here to see you. He wants my half an invention. Well, Val, I need what I've got, and I've got to get back what they've stolen, so... Where are you going? Skiing. What? I'm going back to Vermont to go skiing. I'll send you cut from the Phoenix Hotel. It'll be Sunbury, Vermont. Sunbury. Bring me an orangeade, Porter. Oh, you're new up here. Uh, beg your pardon? You're going to the Phoenix Hotel, of course. Get so you know a skiing fan when you see one. I know most all the Phoenix crowd. This must be your first trip to the Phoenix, eh? Yeah, it is. Hmm, name's O'Brien. Sean Guthrie. Excuse me. Do they serve drinks in this lounge car? Yes, they do. Yeah, you're new, too. Yes, I've only been to the States a few weeks. Oh, no. I mean new to our weekend skiing contingent. Skiing contingent? Yeah.  I'm O'Brien. That's Mr. Guthrie. What'd you say your name was? Well, I... Thanks, Porter. Thanks. Then bring me a couple more cigars, will you? Here, take one of mine while I wait, Mr. O'Brien. Oh, thank you. Now, that's what I like about the Phoenix crowd. Associable. Everybody pals with everybody else. Sounds very pleasant. Yes, I suppose so. Well, Mr.... Well, anyway, you wait. By Monday, everyone in the place will be calling you by your first name. Oh, really? Well, I guess I'd better be getting back to my compartment. Very happy to have met you, gentlemen. See you later. Weird duck. Unsociable life. Now I always say you take a follow that won't mix. Be quiet a minute. What's the matter with you, Mr. Guthrie?  Good evening, Mr. Guthrie. I entrust you feeling refreshed now, sir. Yeah, three hours sleeping a long walk is just what I needed. Any messages for me? Now, sir. Good evening, Mr. O'Brien. Hello there, hello. I've been looking for you everywhere. Wanted to introduce you around to some of the folks here. Well, thanks, Mr. O'Brien. I would kind of like to get acquainted. Why, sure. Be sociable. You see the old lady in the wheelchair? That's Mrs. Garvey. Mrs. Garvey, eh? Yeah. They're new here, too. Legs paralyzed, poor soul. Always sits and knits. The husky man's her husband. Well, hello there, folks. Hello, Irishman. Well. Feels good here. So you're our newcomer. Only one of them, yeah. And this sweet soul, Mr. Guthrie, is Mrs. Garvey. Excuse my not shaking hands. I'm all tied up in this ball of wool. When you can't walk, you compensate by keeping the hands over busy. That's very considerate of you to make me feel at home here, Mrs. Garvey and Mr. Garvey. I'm surprised a strong young man like you isn't in the army. Really, Daddy? You have to excuse me, Mr. Guthrie. Nosey and fresh. Well, there's no harm done. See, I'm an engineer and they've deferred me. There he is. I'm doing my share as is, I suppose. Yeah. I'm a promoter myself. Yeah, Daddy. Hold out your hands. That's it. Now, don't wiggle on my wool or slip. And I'm not in the army because I'm too old to advantage of the over-38 law. I'm 59. It's a card, isn't it? It sure is. Uh, just what is a promoter, Mr. Garvey? Careful, Daddy. Those knitting needles almost stuck you then. They're special needles, Mr. Guthrie. Sharp. Why, they could cut ice or pierce wood.  Yes, I'll be careful, Mother. So you're an engineer, Mr. Guthrie? I knew an engineer. Fine boy. Oh, I remember him. He was a dear boy. Anybody I know? No. I thought I'd try to get him to come up here. I was working on an experiment I was very much interested in. He wouldn't do business with me, I hope. Yeah? Now, bring your hands together, Daddy. That's a good boy. Fine. Daddy has such big, strong hands, yet they're so gentle. Man, the boy is dead now. I met with an accident, I think. Really? What did you say his name was? Howard Lockwood. Yes, Lockwood. He had a collaborator I've been trying to locate. He and I could really have a long talk. Same of the way, Guthrie. Have you seen that bird, the Unsociable one, where he came up in the train with? No, I haven't. He's probably a big businessman. He seems a nervous. I tell you, it doesn't pay. Be sociable. Business can always wait. Definitely. When I see how little you fellas get out of life, I thank heavens I have the sense to retire. How long have you been retired, Mr. O'Brien? Mm-hmm. Before years in June. Mm-hmm. You were in business for yourself? No, no, I was a professional man. Oh, I see. Uh, medicine? No, detective. I was with the FBI. FBI? Well, Guthrie, come in, come in. Feel just like a nice sociable talk. Sit down, sit down. Mr. O'Brien, I'm in trouble and I need expert help. You were an FBI man. You can help me. Uh-oh. I was afraid of that. I'm sorry, Guthrie. I'm retired. Too old for the game. You get a hold of the Boston office. They'll get someone up to help you in a jiffy. Call Jack Porter. He's in charge now. They'll mention my name. But there's no time now. You see, Boston is six hours from me. I need help right now. Oh, take it easy, boy. Relax. I suppose you're another engineer with some gadget that's gonna win the war. That's a familiar one. Mr. O'Brien, this is serious. There's a murder in this hotel. And if I don't get him, he'll get me. Now, now, take it easy. You'll just give me a hand. You know, I felt there was something going on here this weekend.  Mm-hmm. What have you noticed? Nothing in particular. Just people seemed act funny. They take that garvey and his old wife and that bird with a cough that came up on the train with us. What's he up to, eating his meals in his room? Look, will you help me, Mr. O'Brien? I do have an invention as it happens. Oh, excuse me a minute. Hello? Mr. Guthrie? Yes, he's here. Hmm. The gentleman in 421. Right now. Very well. Goodbye. It's for you. Party in 421 wants you to step in and see him. That's him. That fake Dr. Vaughn. Well, this is it. And you refuse to help. Oh, now, look, I'd like to, I guess, but after all... All right, O'Brien, but look, just this. 421 is right down the hall. I'm not back in 10 minutes. Will you knock on the door? Well, that much, I'll do for you. Val, Valentine, what are you doing here? We agreed that you... Oh, John, open your door quickly before we're seen together. Look, Val, I've got something important to do. Wait in my room for me, if I can only find a key. The door's open. It's funny, I locked it. Look! The room's been searched. My papers, the pillows, my trunk. Oh, John, they know you. Where is it? I didn't bring the blueprints with you here. Not that damn. Well, it's gone. What? My gun. Oh, John, I'm afraid. I feel as if I'd known you for a long time. My dear. Val, you know I love you, don't you? John, we shouldn't talk about that now. But, you see, I've been in love with what I think you are. I've only known you for two days and... Why are you trying to ask me, John? Why you came when we agreed that you shouldn't. Because I was afraid that you... And why I find you hiding near my door and find the door unlocked. When I had locked it only ten minutes ago and then I come into my room and I find the... Oh, John, don't! Please don't! I came because I wanted to help you. I felt that if you were in danger, it wasn't right for me to stay home. Safe? Not knowing? Yeah. I'm sorry, Val. I trust you. Look, stay here. I'm going down the hall. Somebody's waiting. Oh, don't go, John. Don't, please. I'm afraid for you. You got a gun, Val. Yes, I thought I might need it. Give it to me.  Oh, John, I... Wait here. If I'm not back in ten minutes, get the police. Where are you going? Room 421 to talk to a man about his cough. I'm going with you. This is his room. I'm going in with you. You're staying outside. Step back. Don't let him see you. Open up! His door's open, too. They're sure on the road. The party. It's Dr. Vaughn. He's dead. Look. Look at the gun. He's holding it. He killed himself. He's supposed to look as if he killed himself. He was shot in the back of the head. A bit too neat. What do you mean? That gun in his hand. It's mine. And if he wasn't the murderer, who was he? Oh, John, the gun. They'll think that... Shh. Take it easy. That gun may come in handy. Come in. Well... Oh, Brian, look here. What? This gun's mine. It's a plot to frame me. What? That's not your killer, Guthrie. That's Hillary Lawrence of Scotland Yard. A sign to this case because his government, like ours, is keenly interested in your invention. I should have listened to you before, Guthrie. You know about it, then? I checked. Called FBI office in Boston. Talked to Porter. Yes, your Dr. Vaughn was Hillary Lawrence of Scotland Yard. He was the one you heard in Lockwood's lab the night he was killed. He must have got a little too close in the tale of the real killers. Mr. Garf, he was... Well, I really don't know enough to talk.  But I think I know... You know the killer? No, but I have no proof. Without proof, Guthrie, you'll be held for the murder of Lawrence. That's obvious. We've got to get our other evidence before someone finds the body. Yeah.  There's a cabin about a mile to the left from the top of the ski jump. I saw it one day when I got lost. I've got a funny hunch it might be the place. If we can get there and find something involving them before the hotel people find this body and arrest you, we'll be... What are we waiting for? Come on, let's go. Come on back to my room, Val. See you downstairs in five minutes. I hope we don't find proof, John. What then? Then we get murdered or get held for murder. The cabin's dark. One of these keys must fit. That one does it. Softly now. Mr. Guthrie, I'll take Miss Ames' gun. You're too impulsive. Thanks. Well, there's no one here. Draw the shade, please. I better keep a lookout on the road. Someone may come. That's a good idea. Now, this is what I call a real sociable evening. Look, a note. It's addressed to me. Well, we're in the right place then. Read it. Guthrie, 200,000 in cash for your blueprints and you can get the cash first wherever you designate with no questions asked as to what government gets them. Sir, call me, my boy. You don't have the prints here, do you? No, they're in a safety vault and my name is San Francisco. What's that there, that panel? It's a radio rig, sending and receiving. Someone's coming. Oh, quick. Turn off that light. Take a look, John, here, through the window. It's Garvey, and he's alone. Alone? Are you sure? Where'd he put that wife of his? Take another look. He's alone, all right. I knew she was a phony. She does too much netting. I wonder where she is. All right, Miss Ames, how'd you go? Quickly. Get to the foot of the road before he does. It's your car, understand? You're lost looking for a way back to the phoenix. Delay him from coming in here. All right. I'll go outside. You search the place. O'Brien with Val. No, let the girl go. Her best weapons are charm. Hurry now. Stall them as long as you can. Good luck. Don't worry. I can see them from here. Look at it. Short way. Yeah, with this outfit, Garvey could hear Lockwood and me talking over our work. Yeah. Pretty clever operator, I'd say. Can you see Val? Yeah. She's getting near him now. Brave girl, that one. The best. There she is. He's seen her. Let me have a look. See them? Over my finger, between that row of trees. Yeah. She's talking to Garvey now. She'll stall him. Hey, come on, O'Brien. Let's start searching his place. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Look, they're coming this way. The two of them. Well, I should have known. Val? Oh, no, it can't be. Sorry, Guthrie, but you're seeing right. The girl's with Garvey. But she loves me. I know it. She's honest. I swear it. They're coming up the path. You stand behind the door. I'll stand up on the balcony and cover them from behind with a gun. You all set, Guthrie? All set. You spring out on them as they close the door and I'll cover you from here. Val, Garvey, duck. He's got the gun above. Ow! Ow! My arm! O'Brien! All of your reach. Don't stoop for that gun, Guthrie. Put your arms. Three of you are going to join the late Mr. Lockwood. The girl and Mr. Garvey of the FBI who poked his nose in the boot too far.  What will you get by killing us? I've got the information you want. And if I'm dead, you'll never get it. I'm fighting for my life now, not your invention. With you three out of the way, I've got a chance. A fire in this lovely cabin will do the job nicely. Now get into that closet all of you. Get started. You're missing one, O'Brien. My wife. I'm not worrying about that. Drop your gun, Mr. O'Brien. That point you're feeling your back is my knitting needle. Drop it. Remember, it can crack ice, pierce wood, or kill a man. Okay, Mrs. Garvey. It's really nice to see you again. Nice job, Guthrie.  Sit down, Mother. You look tired. You must be standing behind the kitchen door for an hour. Look here. Just be quiet, Mr. O'Brien. Former A of the FBI kicked out for improper conduct, he was. The service has had its eye on you ever since, my friend. Yeah, and you see, you made a slight error, O'Brien. 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Welcome to ToffeeTV, it is the match preview, Chelsea vs Everton, it's a big game, it's a big, they're all big games now, every game's a big game now, but this is a big game, this is a big game, another away game against one of our top four rivals, FACT at the most. It's fact in it, factually correct, factually correct, one of our top four rivals. Yeah, big game, it is, obviously they won a landfill to go back above us in the Premier League and we've got the opportunity to leave FROGDOM again if we beat them, it's been a while since we won a stand for bridge 1995, I'm surprised they haven't made a bed sheet with the other clubs but yeah, it's an opportunity, it's a tough game, obviously because some of the suckles come in and tighten them up, like Frank Lampard, they've been decent some of the Lampard then, they've been more attack and I think suckles come in and I think if they keep a clean sheet on Monday it'll be the first, it'll be the first manager for a number of years, so you've got five clean sheets in his first five home games, so yeah, it's a big ask for Everton but Everton have been excellent away from home, well nine out of 13 away games, it's just incredible, really isn't it considering, even I know things are different this season and fans aren't in the stadium whatever but if that was nine out of 13 home games you'd be saying it's incredible, to do in the Premier League it's really good, so Everton are doing very well I think, I think after winning at West Brom, the second now for most consecutive wins off the city, it shows you what the league is like this season with the teams trying to get runs together because everyone's kind of beating each other, it's hard to get that momentum and Everton have managed to get three big wins on the run, yeah and of course for trying to stand out and trying to make the move it is important to get back to back wins, we've seen a few teams do that and it's propelled them up the league or kept them in contention, they're like at West Ham as well, I've done that, so as you mentioned Chelsea brought in Thomas Tushal when maybe the owner felt like Champions League was slipping away from them, getting the Champions League players slipping away from them but you know very proactive when Everton got there and when you look at the squad, the squad is full of top-class players you know you look at the benches it's incredible but as you were saying they were you know they was a I don't know what it was about them, they didn't have that little bit of steel or that little bit of organisation lampard, I had a particular way of playing I don't know whether it was there was too much of a familiarity or whatever I don't know what it was but they brought Thomas Tushal in complete outside there you know someone had not excellent you know someone had not long been at Paris Saint-Germain obviously got to the Champions League last year the final and like you said it's like it's a little bit like what like what we've been doing it's certainly away from home is keep it tight and then you know you're going to have the quality to score a goal and about taking the chance and I think that's what Chelsea have done in last few in last few games they've done exactly the same thing they've just gone places set up to be tight know that as long as the opposition don't score they'll get a chance and most of the time they take it so the similar to us in that kind of thing I've got listen they've got a lot more top players than we we've got they've been doing this for years they've been building that squad last summer they went and spent a lot of money and again that's probably one of the reasons Frank Lampard got the sack as he wasn't making the most of those players with Thomas Tushal's gone in and you know we straight away they just look a more organised setup and he's done little things as well you know taking people off after 20 minutes when they've been brought on you know dropping favourites that thought maybe they'll had a two come for you already and just he's just probably sent a couple of messages out of the squad but you know I can't change things right and you haven't got to come for you it doesn't matter who you are or when you come in how much you cost I'm a disciplinarian and I'm going to make it I'm going to make it hard for everyone yeah he's an excellent manager he's a manager who as you know I wanted to back when we got my partners I wanted us to get so cool Lenny he wanted the job we didn't we went in a different direction he then went off to Dortmund and you know done well at Dortmund but fell out because of the way he likes to do things and well he really fell out with them over the the bombing incident didn't even make him and play the next day and you know he done well there and he went off to Paris Saint-Germain and done well there fell out with them as well fell out with them yeah I think he just likes to do things in a certain way yeah and if that makes him headstrong and fall out with people then it won't be long before he falls out with Abramovich because he tends to do it but I think they've got a good manager and he as he's gone in them give them that steal and he'd actually become the first manager in Premier League history if they kept the clean sheets on Monday to open the first five home games with with clean sheets and Chelsea do it it'll be the first time since 2015 and he's done that but that's when I think of Chelsea being really successful and strong I always think of them being I generally think of Joe Seymoury in the old Chelsea which was defensive first and then at that quality at the other end of the pitch so they were always like such a tough opponent because difficult to break down and then with the quality that they've gotten the final third and he still got the quality in a final third I think for us coming into this game you know we we've got to be better haven't we we've got to be better than the performance against West Brom performance against Southampton we've got to be better it's got to be it's got to be more in line with what we did at Anfield you know it's got you know because it will be it will be tough there's a threat and the good defensively so we've got a we've got to be really well organized which we have been we have been doing that but we've got a we've got we can't turn the ball over as many times as we have been doing recently because quality sides will hurt you and you know of it you know Carl Angelotti says you know his worst game was ever managed was at Chelsea yeah you know it was like a basically a year ago watching it to the day four and he batted it was the last game before the the lockdown and they took us they took us a bit didn't they they really did and even though on that day funny enough it was it was like William and Ross Barkley that really did the damage on that day and those two players don't even play obviously make sure man's open the score didn't he but yeah they destroyed us so we have to we have to we have to be so better in possession because good sides will hurt you and we're playing aside that like we're saying it's about not losing grand I mean if we can't win this game don't lose it don't lose and I know that's easy said no because the other good side but don't lose you because if at least if we can keep them where they are now then it you know we go on to the next game and the next game after that and I think that's the for me looking at the season going you know the end of the season we've got a lot of winnable games that we that we have to win but the likes of your Chelsea's the likes of even a space West Ham away they've got a really good home record it's about not losing those games don't lose against people who've got can get an advantage on you and then go and win the games we're supposed to win other but certainly haven't been winning as such you know the games are home against lesser sides or whatever so um you know we've got a few days now and you know Chelsea Chelsea are the points ahead of us we've got a game in hand so if we don't lose the game then and we win our game in hand them are above them and that's how you have to look at it and this is a I think everything in general have done this very well away for a moment big games you know one of our best performances away from home probably leads the way we manage to keep out a very busy team shall we say a team that's everywhere and attacks in waves and we defend the brilliant name when we add the other team and see we put the ball in and we we should have made it and Dom there he should have made three one at the end of that one you know wolves went to wolves which was a tricky game at the time with no strikers and we won the game stuff like that so you do you have been switched on Leicester away there's a big one we went to Leicester and you know it was a huge game for us and we hadn't been in amazing form albeit we had just beat Chelsea a few days earlier you know and we did have to we had to defend properly and the way we played against Chelsea wasn't you know we had to be on our metal we had to defend properly they had lots of quality players of that day coming at us from all angles and we defended really well and we had to and we'll have to do the same because it's we know it's not a happy hunting ground for us we know that but what we've been doing this season is starting to choke off a few of these ridiculously long records you know we won at Anfield you know we got a good result won at Spares and drew it united you know won at Leicester so teams they were up there Evan have gone and got big wins there and you know so we're nine of thirteen away games you know Chelsea had come into it and the good thing about this game is that they will have had the same amount of rest as us from this one yeah you know we're talking about Evan's performance at West Brom was in great but we'd literally be playing three days before and we had seven players out of that West Brom game albeit not all thirteen starters but we had seven players mission with a manager could have moved things around so the West Brom game to me was more about just trying to get the win by any means possible it's frustrating when you're watching it's not nice to watch on the eye but it is what it is and it's results of it you know would you take going to Chelsea and playing crap and winning the game one nil or two one course you put because that means you'd be sat here going what a great result yeah you know and that's what it's about and Chelsea just talking about how circles changed it they I mean this is what played it slightly different to what lamp has done but this is the lineup that they had at Anfield the other night rather get Christiansen and Asperle-Quetter at the back and then Chilwell Chilwell and Rhys James as the two-wing backs and then Georgie now can't say a little bit more of solidity in the midfield Wainer through the middle which is a little bit of a different change but he'll know from his time in Germany that Wainer can play through the middle and obviously ZH and Mont just off them and it was it was Mason Mont who got the winner on Anfield and team over Wainer real threat with the pace but we've got Ben Goffrey who was equally as quick he's playing centre-back or that's a good one for us if they go with that they could also bring in Olivier Giroud of course who was sub at Anfield the other night and he'd be a bit of a different threat but again Michael Keane shoots that so I think was set for that one area that you know we'll have to be really careful will be the likes of ZH getting on the ball and Mason Mont in that dropping into those pockets of space and that's why Evan Allen back is important hopefully Tom Davies will be there or thereabouts for Monday and then we'll have to wait and see on that one ever hoping to have Hammers-Rodríguez back in the squad for Monday as well so we'll have to be we'll have to be defensively well organised we'll have to be defensively solid but we have done that and it'll be about the manager picking the right team I guess to do the job because what you want to do is you want to make them have to think about you as well because I don't think we can go there and sit back and just take 18 minutes of pressure you know and hope that we can mix up but we have to carry that threat ultimately with you know at this stage of the season they're going to see us as a threat you know as you just said they were right behind them and they're going to have to pay us respect because Val O'Recoe that's been fantastic and like you said going to Anfield going to Old Trafford going to Tottenham and get Leicester getting results so they're going to have to and hopefully hopefully we turn up and hopefully we you know because I suppose it's always been these kind of games that have let us down and in many ways over years it's been like oh it doesn't really matter because it's against the top four team and that's not really anything to do with us in a way or that's a game you know that's a freebie and all that but it's not this season there's no free it you know we said they I think we said when we played Manchester United probably when we said Liverpool they're not free it when the people you're trying to catch you know you look at that top four and yeah okay people can take them round and go well don't play great football or they do it just do enough but it doesn't really matter at this stage if you're doing just enough to win your three points and you're doing that most games then you do it you're also doing something right because you've got a way of doing things I said on me the matriarchs and after West Brom is that we can focus on the fact that we're not playing fast flow in attacking football and I do when I'm watching it frustrates me that we instead of attacking we'll turn around and pass it back but the one thing you're after Lord is the way we defend is being able to defend years ago you know for all of that you know 1-0 to the Arsenal and all that George Graham team was built like that Joe Seymourino brilliant Chelsea side was built and when it's Chelsea many years on the run and they beat us 1-0 over and they just do enough or they come to Goddison and grind out that winning you were like that you were crap and they were like they've just won the game yeah man crap the brilliance that defend them yeah and you're after so we would tend to Lord these attacking teams that score loads of goals but letting you know the credit I've heard leads and I'll disrespect the leads but the credit I've heard leads get this season who've been chased all over the place in some games yeah because they had 20 shots they got five in but they had 20 shots you can you can Lord defensive displays if you're a team that can go away confident enough to sit back and let you come on to us because we'll pick you off counter attack and football you know we said it many times less the city won the league with 28 or 24 possession average in 2016 because they did do that they sat back and I just banged it long and barred he'd run on scored and out of beat he wouldn't do anything else in the game they just get him do enough to win the game and you sometimes have to give credit to that as well they're ahead of us in the development I've read you the subs are on field the other night the subs are on field I had was a team that you'd look and see that team and go tell you what they'd give a lot of teams a game in the Premier League they were their subs so we know squad wise they are well ahead of us we're trying to get towards where they are but the actual fact that the matter is the one point ahead of us yeah last season they put a great lunge together to get in the Champions League places under Lampard so not like they're a gimme every season in the top two they're a team themselves in transition with very good players so everything should go there and won't have any fears because you won that and had a 13 away game so you'd be there going this is a chance for us to win game number 10 while paying massive respect to them which we will do we will pay respect to them because they're a top shot that's normally when we're at our best when we have to switch on and we have to pay attention to what the other team and players have been given orders and it's going out and doing it and not being sloppy and like you said it it is the squad thing as well it's you know these are the games when you need to have your better players available and that's when clubs that's why clubs like Chelsea and you know City United Liverpool are normally up there because they have those they have a good team or a good squad when it comes to it and that's that's hopefully now you know we've had players missing over the last week hopefully in the next you know couple weeks certainly for this game if we can get those players back and I know it's always a case of you seem to get players back and then you lose other players but and that's where again that big squad helps but yeah so I mean hopefully we can go there and as I said if we can get something out of the game you know either way then then Chelsea are not getting away from us we've got that game in hand and we've got we've got winnable games coming up so a point to be good and now we all want to win and we're hoping for a win and you're hoping that you know but a point will be a good result for in that perspective they won't be gaining any more ground on us than the bright bias a win would be amazing for Everton it would be tremendous but you know just just to show you the size of the task with some of the facts Chelsea are unbeaten in the last 25 Premier League home games against Everton winning 14 and drawing 11 only against Spurs of the Blues had a longer unbeaten home record which is 27 only against Leeds have Everton had a longer winless away run in the top flight than they have at Chelsea. Chelsea have lost three of the last four meetings with Everton as many as they had in the previous 15. Well there you go things same round. Everton looking to complete the first double over Chelsea in the league campaign since 1978-79 said the thing about Suckel did Suckel with his the five things. Guilty Sigurdsson scored more Premier League goals against Chelsea than he has against any other side in the competition Edward Mendes kept six clean sheets in his first 10 Premier League start the most by a goalkeeper since Liverpool got Alisson and the only one with more clean sheets in his first 10 starts was Petitech for Chelsea and Everton boss Carlo Antilotti is looking to become the first manager in the Premier League era so win away at Stanford Bridge having managed Chelsea in the competition he could be the first manager since Dave Sexton in 74-75 with QPR to complete a top flight double over the Blues after leaving the club so there's there's some historic things there to be done there's room for positivity we've said before and I said this they going into the derby is that this is the season to break these runs and I know we're talking about a really good side we know they've got loads of quality but they're not invincible so I mean if you could get if Everton could choke this one off and there's no more 25 years waiting to win away games who knows what that does to the mentality but like you said before if we can't win it don't lose it and if we get out with a point it'll be a good point yeah there we go yeah let's see what happens hopefully we can continue the good form away from home and go there and keep fighting keep fighting for that top four let's see what happens let us know your thoughts in the comments on this one are you optimistic or do you look at it as a bit of a freebie I don't think it is because I think that right there the right day we can go above number three points let us know your thoughts in the comments don't forget give this video a like subscribe if you haven't already you want more great videos daily live videos exclusive podcast join us on page and the link is in the description also on the screen right now see you later


from San Francisco, it's theCUBE. Covering RSA Conference 2019, brought to you by Forescout. Hey, welcome back everybody, Jeffery here with theCUBE. We're at RSA North America, in the newly refinished Moscone Center downtown San Francisco, we're in the Forescout booth. Happy to be here first time and we have our next guest, she's Charlotte Wiley, the Chief of Staff from Symantec. Charlotte, great to meet you. Nice to meet you too, Jeff, thanks for having me. Absolutely, so impressions of the show, this is a crazy show, 40,000 plus people aren't many shows like this. It is huge, it's a little overwhelming, it's my second year here and it's no less overwhelming second year here. It's just prolific, everything that's here, the sessions, the keynotes, all the networking, the booths, it's amazing. So I'm curious how your perception has changed, I was looking at your background, you were at a financial institution before, so you were on kind of the purchaser side of the house, now you're over on this side of the house, how has that kind of changed your perception when you walk this crazy floor? I imagine before you're like, yeah, how am I going to digest all this stuff? Well, no one wants to be my friend anymore, which is interesting, so working on the vendor side, it defends the dark side, it's a very different experience when I came here a couple of years ago at the bank, everyone wants to talk to you, whereas this time there's a healthy competitive nature going on between all the vendors, which is great, you want to see that. But yeah, it's got the same enthusiasm, same buzz on the floor, which is wonderful. So Mayotech's been a leader in this space for a very, very long time, one of the original, kind of original security companies back in the day when we were just trying to protect, I guess our web browser, right, from some malicious activity. Wow, how the world has changed. Totally. And one of the big new components now is internet of things and this tie of IT with OT, operations technology, something you've spent some time on, I wonder if we'll get your take on how that's increasing the threat surface, increasing the complexity, and yet there's still a lot of value there if you can bring those two systems together. Yeah, absolutely. So I think the key thing is, you know, the simplicity here is what you don't know you can't see and what you can't see, you can't monitor. And that's the key thing to remember when you think about IoT and OT. So with IoT specifically, if you, you've definitely got an IoT in your network somewhere, everyone has, but if you can't see that thing, it is incredibly vulnerable throughout Vector for any organization. So really, it's a point of egress for any database filtration if you've got someone compromising the network already. And you know, we see it as being a very opportune ingress point to get an electronic move, right? So they are incredibly inherently vulnerable, right? These things are, they're usually hard coded, authenticated, they have massive vulnerabilities that often remain unpatched. And when you cannot see, you don't know. Right, right. So same with the OT side of the fence, right? The same problem exists. They typically were not built to connect to the internet. Right. So this is something very new that we're trying to tackle. Right. And one of the key things that I think about is that it's probably a little bit futile to make these OT and IoT devices inherently secure. You think about in 2020, we're going to see like 25 billion devices proliferating our globe, which is incredible. So how do we make it more secure? Well, let's back off from becoming inherently secure. Let's up on the visibility. So if you visualize, you can segment and you can enforce and then you can take control of what has access to your network. Right. Yeah. A lot of interesting conversations about this today, obviously, we were in the Forescale booth, but like one of the people earlier said they had 50% more devices on the network than they anticipated. And it turns out as remote offices and people are plugging things in. Another little factoid is that maybe that hidden OS on that device is actually a Windows NT. It's an NT little box that nobody even knew because it's an embedded NT. But then on the other side, we had Alisa on it. She was talking about great example on security cameras and just that a lot of these newer devices that you can connect have a plethora of services packaged in on the assumption that you might use them. So rather than have not too many, they put them all in but you don't necessarily need to turn all those things on. So again, you're just opening up this huge kind of exposure. Huge exposure. That's it. I think it's a really good conversation to have with your stakeholders about talking about the target breach. So when people start to understand that that really originated from a HVAC system, right? A compromised HVAC system. So when you're talking about IoT and visualization, that's a really good use case to say, look, this is a huge breach that was compromised from because they didn't have visibility over the IoT. It's funny, HVACs keep coming up over and over and over. They're obviously the biggest threat that we have.  But it's funny. Different topic, shifting gears completely. Really about kind of diversity and diversity of opinion, diversity of perspective, diversity of thought, and how that's a really important and effective tool to use in trying to accomplish missions in this really crazy complex task. You can have single point of view, single point of reference, kind of a single pain that you think about. I know that's something that you've been spending a lot of time on. So my role at Symanteca's Chief of Staff, I own the diversity agenda for the Global Security Office and it's been a real laser focus for me for the past 12 months, which is our industry has a systemic problem around attracting and retaining talent from diverse backgrounds. So we've got to tackle it head on. And we've done that really successfully in Symanteca. So we gave this fabulous mandate through to our leadership who got on board with laser focus around making sure that we get a diverse-later candidates when we're bringing in new people. And that translated incredibly well. So we saw a rise of interview to conversion for an FTE for females in six months of 40%. 14 or 40. For zero. For zero. Yeah. So just by making it part of the interviewing experience, having it a diverse slate of candidates, making sure that we're really giving everyone an opportunity to come in, really has changed the playing game, the playing field. And then the other thing, of course, is the retention, which is a big problem. Retention is a huge problem. That will see women dropping out and not coming back. That's it. And this is where every organization has to step up to make sure that they're making a workforce that is flexible, that accommodates. So some of their mental load that women have, whether it's through childcare, whether it's through with older parents. But then also when we talk about diversity, it's definitely not just about the gender piece, right? We're going to accommodate for other people as well, underrepresented minorities, early career, different people from different socioeconomic background that maybe haven't come from a typical university training course, right? Something that we've focused on heavily. We've been working with a lot of not-for-profits to bring in early career guys who have not had a university background, who may have had a really rough time coming out of school, getting them in, training them up through internships, bringing them up to speed over six months and converting them into FTE, which I feel is a brilliant way to build a diverse workforce and give people an opportunity that didn't have it. That was someone spearheading that before you came on board, or was there an effort to really kind of put a dedicated resource on it when you took it over? So I took over about a year ago and I doubled down on the effort we were working with with Year Up. Before that, I had a fantastic colleague who was doing a lot of work with Year Up and we're just seeing fabulous results. We've converted nearly 33% of our internships into FTE. 33, and those 33 are not coming from kind of a classic, hand-picked population. Absolutely. These are eager, passionate, enthusiastic young people who have a tenacity to just pick things up because they're so grateful to be there. They're so happy to be given the opportunity and it's an untapped resource that I think a lot of people who are looking to have solved aside the security talent shortage should be looking into. Great that we get programs in place through Girl Scout or Middle School, but let's think about alternative ways of getting new talent in and I think that they're not-for-profits are a great way of doing it.  Before we even get into the boardroom, we work with some organization like Athena Alliance which works at the boardroom level all the way down to Grace Hopper, who's working more kind of at the college graduate level. Girls in tech, I mean there's a lot of, luckily a lot of people are trying to focus on the problem but unfortunately the numbers are not turning in the correct direction, they're actually turning in the wrong direction. So really that's it for me, it's about laser focus.  I'm not a huge fan of Targus, but Targus work and so yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity here that people, they don't step up to the plate and do it enough. To your earlier first line, right, if you're not measuring it, and you're not tracking against it, how do you know if you're being successful? Absolutely. And when it's underserved, you have to give it a little juice, right? You can't just expect the status quo to suddenly make a change, right? Absolutely, the metrics are incredibly important. Start with your metrics dashboard, record where you're tracking in terms of your representation of females underrepresented minorities, your vets, your early career. Really what you want to see is a huge influx through the interviewing stage into the FTE conversion. You want to see an influx in your leadership. You want more women in your leadership team because that's the way to drive a better female pipeline. Same goes to underrepresented minorities, same goes to early career. Yeah, it's so important that they look up and see somebody that looks like them. 100%. And see an opportunity to be that person someday. Absolutely, Jeff. All right, Charlotte, well, thanks for taking a few minutes of your day and great to learn about what you're working on. That's great. Thanks for having me. All right, she's Charlotte. I'm Jeff. You're watching theCUBE. We're at RSA 2019 in the Forced Cow booth. Thanks for watching. We'll see you next time. Okay. Thanks. Thanks.