Yes, please. Hello and welcome to the digital free thought radio hour on W O Zio radio 103.9 LP FM here in Knoxville, Tennessee. We're recording this on Sunday morning, May 22nd, 2022. I'm Larry Rhodes or doubter five. And as usual, we have our co host on the line with us Hello, Wombat. Aim for the eyes. Always works. And our guests today are dread pirate Higgs. Welcome from Canada. Ahoy, George Brown from East Tennessee. Hi. And Boudreaux, Ohio. Was that right? Duggy. Duggy. Duggy. Close. Only a state away. Digital free thought radio hour is a talk radio show from about atheism, free thought, rational thought, humanism and the sciences. And concept conversely, we'll also talk about religion, religious faiths, gods, holy books and superstitions. And if you get the feeling you're the only non believer in your town, well, you're just not in Knoxville in the middle of the Bible belt, we have a group of over a thousand of us. And we'll tell you more about that after the mid show break. Wombat, what's our topic today? Does atheism need a pope and all the repercussions that come with it? You think it's an easy answer. You think it is, but let's we'll go into the meat and potatoes incident. Before we do, before we touch any of those proteins, let's have a nice dose of carbs from our own noodley representative in chief, who will lead us in our weekly invocation. Go ahead. Our noodley Lord, who art in a colander, all Dante be thy noodles, thy blood be rum, thy sauce be young with meat as it is with vegetables. Give us this day our garlic bread and forgive us our cussing as we forgive those who cuss against us. Feed us not into key toism, but deliver us some carbs for the iron or the meatballs and the sauces and the grog, whenever and ever. So you know, something I've been looking forward to is seeing all of you guys here. I got my mom here and it's nice to have friends and family over at the same time too. And so I'd love to just take a moment to just catch up with everybody. Tread, I heard you doing a lot of weddings. What's going on with you? Yeah, well, you know, now that the COVID restrictions have lightened up, people are getting themselves married. And, you know, right now, I'm not, of course, I'm a marriage commissioner under the last statistics ministry. So if people, it's a good secular option. And a lot of people don't know that there's that option. So sometimes they come to me and say, well, you know, what are you like non-denominational? And I say, well, in fact, under the regulation, I cannot invoke any kind of supernatural being. So this is a purely secular option. And they, you know, once they kind of realize it and they, they aren't religious, then they're quite happy to have that option. So for anyone listening, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Munster reps and priests can do wedding officiating. And it doesn't mean that everyone has to eat spaghetti afterwards, right? Like, it's not like a spaghetti themed wedding, though you totally could have that. What it is, is like a respectful, non-supernatural place or representative to hold vows, right? And still be officiating. Is that correct? Well, so I am actually, I've been appointed by the ministry of vital statistics to be a marriage commissioner. So it has nothing to do with pastifarianism. If people choose the pastifarian option, because I, in my photo online through the ministry, if someone looks for a marriage commissioner, they see me wearing a tricorn. And so if they want that option, I am happy to oblige. Absolutely. And I have. That might be the circle I check. Just letting you know. Yeah. No, the one I had in just around Christmas a year ago. Yeah. Yes, I had my tricorn. I was in a sweater that had lights on it with the reindeer.  Sure. Had a pair of plaid, plaid pajamas. And we had a lot of fun. I imagine that's the way, that's the way wedding should be in my head. They should be a lot of fun and a memorable experience and fun for everybody. It's not fun sitting in a suit, sweating outside, listening to the same three songs over and over again. Which is where I'll be today. Anything else going on that you want to catch us up on? Just doing more wood turning out in the shop and just waiting to get back to work here. There's been a slump in the film thing because we had pilot season. Sure. So they have to wait until those are produced and have been aired in order to determine whether the series is going to continue. So starting up in June is when the regular seasons begin and I'll be back at work. So nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Boudreau, it's always good to see you. Welcome back to the show. How you been? I've been, I've been great. I've been sad. I've missed so many guys. Soccer's been busy and yeah. But it's great to be back and I'm going to Greece next month. Oh, right. Very, very nice. Yeah, we're about Athens. Oh gee. Yeah, if you're going to go to Greece, you got to go to Athens, right? And then, well, I mean Macedonia too, like there's so many beautiful places there. And I guess is it like just sightseeing or do you have family up there? No, I'm going for a conference. Submitted a paper to a conference and I'm going to go present. But my wife's coming with and a co-worker and his spouse and one of my colleagues is from Greece and he'll be there. So I will get kind of the inside. Paper on. Yeah. And how is your by the way? Non-existent. I did. I did take Latin in college. So maybe that'll you're an engineer, right? Like you should be able to do the math, right? Like, because all the Barry was and all the, they all came from there.  I understand everything you're saying now. That's great. And the paper topic is too boring for this podcast. What's the title of the topic? Just hit us. Just hit us cold, cold dipping in the shower. Just give us the title. I'm not even sure exactly the effect of segmentation on safety. Okay, not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. I love it. Oh, what? Anyway, George Brown, second and a half. Didn't see you last week, we're going to call you. What's up? How you been? Oh, I've been okay. I, you know, here in Tennessee, things are growing. Yes, it's, it's springtime. And everybody's allergies are acting up, which means my allergies have been acting up. So I started taking, I started taking a new antihistamine that's making me very drowsy. And I also was up very late the night before last show. So I decided I'm just going to sleep in today. Yeah, is what happened last week. That's why I wasn't here painting the town red. You see, George, I don't feel bad. Better than you be ill or something. That's great. Very true. No, no, I was just sleeping to tell you the truth. I will not lie. I did not drop down a cherry tree. I was fast asleep. So very popular bush here in Tennessee is the honey circle. I don't know how much they're very popular in Kentucky, but they're all in bloom statewide.  It's very, very nice. Well, growing up growing up in New York, I always had a post nasal drip. And it was going to be crazy. And the reason for that was all the pollution blowing over from New Jersey from all the chemical factories over there. Yeah. So here in Tennessee, it's different. I have the same symptoms and it's from all this junk that's growing. All right, I'm going to ask this weird question. Has anyone ever seen those weird pots that you put down one nostril that pours out the second nostril? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Is that the other thing? Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. All right. I didn't know I have a squeeze bottle that does the same thing. All right. All right. I saw that and I thought it was a magic trick. I was like, there's no way these tools are connected. That's crazy. Are you? Where's it going? It's like, they're good. They're good. They're good. They work. They work. They work. I had sinus surgery and I had to do that for a week or two. Yeah. The very first time I did it, I thought it was so weird.  But after that, I mean, there was no chlorine. So it didn't hurt. Okay. After that, it was just fine. Yeah. Okay. Just a gentle saline solution. And and here's the I guess the scary question. There's a lot of stuff come out or is it just like, I'm just rinsing, I'm just rinsing for rinsing or it's like, whoa, that was in my head the whole time. You've got the sink water running too, right? You don't need to look at that. You don't need to. Better out than in, I always say. That's right. Better out than in. Found that USB stick I was I was wondering where it went. There's where all the spiders. The toy soldiers. Yeah, yeah, like things from childhood, you're like, that's where that thing went. All right, jelly beans. You know what it's I have said this, like, my brain's gone. Right, right, right. If I if I'd cleaning my car and I find like a jelly bean under the car seat, I'm still eating the jelly bean. That's how that's like my neutral. There's nothing else touching that. And it's already a jelly bean.  I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're all I think we all agree that's normal. Okay, we need more women on the show. Larry. Absolutely. Larry. How you been? How you been? How you been? Oh, fine. I meant to take my bike out yesterday and didn't get around to it. So I'm hoping I will today. My motorcycle that is. But no, I'm feeling fine. Doing good for 72. Had a birthday this month. Yes. So happy birthday, Larry. Happy birthday. Listen, Larry. When you ride your motorcycle, do you go out with your suspenders? Because there's nothing more cooler than just I represent. Yeah. Just kind of remind me of red, green a little bit. Yeah. Keep your stick on the ice. There you go. I grew up with that. That's cool. Wonderful. Guys, we have an interesting topic, an interesting question today, which is does atheism need a pope? Now, hear me out. What does a pope do?  It's like, I understand what you're saying, but think about what the benefits of a pope is. When you think of the Catholic Church, you don't have to think about the the disconnected groups of people across the entire world. You don't have to think about an organization that's been around since medieval times. You think about one guy who lives in one place who visits different locations, talks to presidents, talks to other world leaders, gives speeches as a representative of this entire ideology and who everyone looks up to as like, that's the guy who represents the rules and hands down the dictates that we all represent follow. And we have an election system for this person. And that's the person who represents us. If you have questions, talk to that guy.  And if you have any questions, feel free to talk to representative. And I feel like while not entirely, while it does have its own complications, I do feel like there could be benefits, particularly from a political side to having a representative of atheism, because for the most part, we can ignore atheists, but it's very hard to ignore the pope. You know, those shoes are incredible. What are you going to do? And he has a little bulletproof case, little tiny, will we have a funny hat? Of course, it's going to be a funny hat. You can't have a religion without a funny hat. We all know that's we all know atheism is not a religion. Just saying pick and choose, pick and choose, pick and choose. So well, someone did point out that we already have one and that de facto pope is Richard Dawkins. Richard Dawkins. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. The fact of pope is Richard Dawkins. Dredd prior, would you like to elaborate or what do you think? Oh, well, I mean, you know, because of course, he was considered one of the four horsemen, along with Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and Christopher Hitchens. And I think Richard Dawkins is pretty strident in his atheism.  But, you know, soft spoken and and sort of gentle in certain respects. And I think those are all good qualities of someone that's representing. Oh, there you go. Oh, that's why I'm there. He signed it. Yeah. Cool. Very good. Cool. That's well, that's it's is that your brush with fame there? Yeah, I got to talk to him. And it's on real quickly, real briefly. But yeah, what about the idea of political persuasion? Because I know Richard Dawkins doesn't necessarily like shake hands with the the king of Bolivia, you know, or like any American presidents, because people will be like, I don't want to talk, I don't want I don't want to be associated with the guy who's in charge of atheism. Like, how can you bridge that gap? And do you think Richard Dawkins is in a good position to do that? Or would you, without a name necessary, would you want like a separate figure to be sort of like the political in between of atheism and, you know, politics at large? Hmm. Yeah, that's, that's an interesting question. Well, it's kind of like asking, should we have an atheist party? There you go. A political party. And the answer to that is oh, yeah. But I mean, can we get away? Can we get away from the two party system enough to do that? And that's that's the problem. I mean, right now, the nuns, I think I remember the religiously affiliated, right? But atheism per se is only about 10%. You know, people that actually say I'm an atheist, although a lot more people than that don't believe in God's. As far as your question about the atheist Pope, I'm not so sure because like the word God, Pope brings an awful lot of bad baggage with it. He's an authoritarian figure at the head of an authoritarian regime or establishment hierarchical, exactly. And you are expected to follow the edicts of a Pope. And atheists will do that. I mean, we're critical thinkers. We're independent people. It's like herding cats, as so many people say. So I don't think I was hoping you'd say this show because that is what you say.  Right. And I don't think it would work, but it's good to have a public person to be able to answer questions about that. Who is very good at it? Dredd and then Boudreau. Yeah, I was going to ask if you guys have heard the term brights as something that relates to atheists. Daniel Dennett uses it a lot in his books. I'm reading one of his books actually called Breaking the Spell. And he uses the word brights regularly to refer to people who are atheists. So I think it's a better name for, you know, a political party than atheists party, like I see party the brights, you know, like, like a pretty cool rebranding without the baggage. It's almost as good as being a pastyperian. Well, the only criticism I've heard of using the brights as a name is it implies everybody else is dim. Well, you know what?  It also implies that all atheists are bright, which is not the case. There's that too. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a little bit. I always, you know, I'm always a little weirded out when people find identifier terms that in their own right or just self compliments. And it's like critical thinking. Yes, like that's hard to do. But like, I consider myself an intellectual. It's like, okay, what does that mean? Well, I watch Netflix with the subtitles on. It's just like, okay, okay, okay, we may have a little bit to go. Boudre, go for it. And then we go to George. What's up, Boudre? Yeah, I liked your point earlier about cherry picking.  We could cherry pick. Exactly. And I think you can take the good pieces. And I've made the point, I think on this show before that that's one of the struggles we have, you know, as a group is that where we really are so separated and we're so unique and different that we can't rally under one term. There are a lot of people that don't like the term atheist, but probably believe as strongly as we do on most other aspects, especially political things, you know, so yeah, having having someone to kind of rally behind and Dawkins probably wouldn't be the perfect choice because I think he scares off some people. But yeah, having someone that the group kind of elects to kind of rally behind and Hitchens is no longer available. I mean, he would have been perfect. Very eloquent, very, very atheist and willing to speak up about it in public form and do as well. Funny too. And funny. Yeah. And you know, if I were going to pick and choose personally for me, how I would pick and choose would be maybe and not to get into too much of a tangent, but I would try to get opportunities for more diverse representation of atheism to show that there's a lot more than just the very, very nice, strong, intelligent white men. And I would have like Mendeza Thomas up there. I'd have black comedians because a lot of black comedians are atheists as well. Hannibal Boris is a great one. Richard Pryor was a great one. I know we can't use Richard Pryor because he's died. But we can use Hannibal Boris. We could have like intellectuals. We could have like, I was happy to even be representative of it, just like just to showcase that it's okay if you're black to come out as an atheist because there is pressure in our community to stay religious, particularly in America. And it's nice to show that not only can you be successful, but you can also come out as well. What do you think Larry? Oh, yeah, like Ian Hursey Lee would be a good representative. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I just, oh, Ian Hursey Lee. She's a black woman from Somalia. Is that where she's from? And she's written a couple of books about how she escaped Islam. And forced a forced marriage. Right. She went through Germany into Holland, went to college with her and Michael Sherman and ended up in the pop parliament there. And she passed a lot of reforms and then eventually ended up in America in California, I think. But yeah, she got a couple of great books out there. And I really recommend reading Heretic, I think is the one right first one that she wrote. Also, there's a whole history of black playwrights, men and women. And it goes from James Baldwin, WB de Blas. There's like great literature and inclusions into American history that were written by black atheists who were prominent about it, who put it into their plays. And I felt like if we, if there was more than just a couple of names that we kept using, it seemed more of like a fuller on, you know, force of critical thinking and intellectuals that's like open for everybody. If we could do something like the Pope system, I would say why not have multiple popes? And why not empower everybody to be a pope in their own right in their own communities? We could have national popes and state popes and regional and city popes and city folks was like, Hey, I'm the block pope, I'm the pope of this block. What's up? Yeah, I'm a hood pope. We need an atheist hood pope. And it'd be the best thing ever because if you like these guys are in the hood, it's like, yeah, but that's a hood pope. It's like, Oh, that guy, he's smoking with like one of those cool things. He's cool. He's cool. Yeah, hang out with that guy. Anyway, George Brown, second and a half. Sorry. I just, I just wanted to mention something that I noticed in the news last week. Nancy Pelosi was denied. She was told she couldn't attend mass or something by the what the Archbishop of San Francisco, I don't know what these people's titles are or mean. And being while the Pope said that Biden could attend mass after all. And of course, what he's what these guys are talking about is, is that these people stance on birth control. So so one, one, the top guy in Catholic Church is saying to everybody that the President of the United States, being a Catholic is okay if he attends mass, but the Archbishop of San Francisco is saying the Nancy Pelosi can't attend mass because she's opposed to abortions too. So the disagreeing with each other. Maybe we need bishops as well as as a pope in our church of atheism. You know, I do like, I, I mean, we can go back and forth on this, but Dred, what do you think I want to get everyone's thoughts in? Well, I was going to say that as a representative of pastifarianism, we have what is called the International Pastifarian Captains Conclave. And so the various captains of churches around the world, essentially get together to discuss matters that are of interest to pastifarianism world over. And so no one, of course, I mean, it's like true the true democracy that was part of the Charter for for pirate ships is that things are run by consensus. And, you know, liberty, true freedom is what's most important for all pirates and, and in the interests of each other, it's in their own interest to make sure that they stick to it. So that's the way we run. And the bedrock of empathy is compromising to an extent realizing, hey, you can't always be the way you want. And sometimes the way you want it may not even be the best way for everybody. And like I understanding that benefits everyone. And I find like a true democracy system could help like a enclave of atheist posts from both the blocks all the way to like, country levels, just like congregating and saying, hey, everyone else is invited to but this is what we want to represent ourselves as. And do we like the term bright? Do we want to try something different? You want to use all of it? Hey, maybe I'll work for everybody. Why are we following strict rules? Like we, we just want to make sure that we pull people away from bad, critical thinking pathways, and hopefully migrate our society towards, you know, this deeper, slower thinking style that can ultimately benefit everyone because it's clearly showing some technological benefits as well. And this is trying. Yeah, we can hear you, Sky. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I was loved again. Yeah, we're gonna take a minute. Do you have anything to say in the 70 before we go? Not right now. Okay, okay. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. But yeah, atheism and popes, there might be a room for more visible leadership is what I'm saying. And I think we can benefit a lot from that. Oh, yeah, especially those in Congress, if they will become more visible, more vocal, we hadn't we had once Madeline Muriel here, but she was awfully abrasive. Yeah. There's, I was just gonna say that I believe that in America, as far as I remember, that atheists were actually the most hated group, right? Or are, I don't know if things are starting to change as with the rise of the nuns, but it certainly has been that, you know, that in the past, and and polls taken of voters, you know, where an atheist is an option. People are, you know, again, they just treat, they say, an atheist will never ever get in as a president. You can have a black president, you can have a Chinese president, you can have a woman president, but they better believe in something because atheists, you're hated. Sure. Skyward and Texas. What is this nuns business? What is this nuns business? Sky, what do you think? I was going to throw in that here in Texas and in six other states, the state constitution prohibits an atheist from holding any public office. Yes, yes. I think I agree. Although that is, although that is in the Constitution, there's no longer protected. I mean, there have passed many amendments since then and it overrode the that statement in the Constitution. So it's not enforceable anymore. But since it's an originating document, they can't literally go in and change it. It would change the Constitution the way it was then. And we want to preserve that for history. Just I think it's a good idea. If anything, it's a time capsule for how dated we were in our thinking and how much progress we've made up to that point. Right. And the fact that we can amend the Constitution is demonstration that old dogmas or even thousands of years old should be changed and moved past since. Anyway, Larry, we're at a break, I think. Yeah, we are. Stay tuned right here for the second half of the digital free thought radio hour. We're on WOZO Radio 103.9 LPFM here in Knoxville, Tennessee. And we'll be right back after this short break. Welcome back to the second half of the digital free thought radio hour. I'm doubter five and we're on WOZO Radio 103.9 LPFM here in Knoxville, Tennessee. Now let's take a moment to talk about the atheist society of Knoxville. ASK was founded in 2002. We're in our 20th year now. And then we have over a thousand members. And we have weekly in person meetings in Knoxville's old city at Barley's Taproom in Pizzeria. Look for us inside at the high top tables or outside on the deck if the weather is pretty. We're usually the loudest and happiest group there. We also have two, well, I didn't say which night it was Tuesday nights at five, 30 or six and we usually go to about eight. We also have Tuesday evening Zoom meetings. If you'd like to join us, if you don't live in Knoxville or you don't want to get out, just join us on our Zoom meeting. Email us first of all at askanatheistat Knoxvilleatheist.org or let's chat SE at gmail.com and we'll send you the links so you can join us. You can also find ASK online at Facebook meetup.com or go to their website at Knoxvilleatheist.org. You can just Google Knoxvilleatheist to find it. It's just that simple. By the way, if you don't live in Knoxville, you should still go to meet up and do a search for an atheist group in your town. Don't find one. One. Well, where do you want to pick up? Holy mackerel, Batman. We said words in the first half that we're going to clarify in the second half. So more of an extension. Guys, I also have a mea culpa. I forgot to add the episode from last week up online. And so there's no listener comments. I'm going to upload both of them this week. So expect some comments next week. Sorry about that, guys. And feel free to leave a comment in the YouTube description or comment box below. We'll go over them in the next week's show around this section. Anyway, Dred Pirate, you said we're speaking of Catholics. We're talking about the the Pope. We had a conversation about nuns rising. What's going on? Where are all these nuns coming from? So none is a term for no religious affiliation. So or none of the above. Or none of the above. Yeah. So if it's if it says check which religion you're a member of, usually down at the bottom is none of the above. And so that's where the term nuns comes from. You have to point out the tie into Richard Pryor though, right? Brewster's Millions. He ran for office and he convinced everyone to go vote none of the above. Oh, that was a while ago. No long time since I saw that movie. I saw that movie too. So but it was a while before we do. But yeah, that's great. That's basically the whole idea behind nuns. And so we have a census. I didn't know if it was in Canada as well.  It's a it's a duty obligation of our citizens to be able to do this and they will track you down if you don't. But when you do, you have the option of describing what your religious affiliation is. And like Dred Pirate just said, at the very bottom of that list, you have the in my opinion, the best box check, which is, you know, none. And if you hit that, a little question mark pops up because we're beginning to see that group exponentially rise compared to all other groups which are declining. So like the Christians in the most generic sense are decreasing in America and nuns are rising. And in fact, it wasn't until like a couple of years ago where nuns are actually the leading majority position majority in America over 50% over 53% or something like that. And that's that's an impressive thing because it doesn't seem like that's the way it is when you look out a window or when you go outside. Yet you have to think one out of two people that you're meeting would have checked that box as part of their survey. That was one thing that I was troubled with in well, one thing I did when the census came around my way, I had the full the full form which is the extended version. And that that question was asked. And instead of signing off on none of the above, I actually wrote in another box and pastifarianism beside it. And then checked myself off as a pastifarian. But you know, knowing that these statistics are changing as they are. And I think I brought this up the last time I was on was about the subsidized childcare seats available in British Columbia. And how there's like 21% Christians from the last census. But 58% of the subsidized seats were for Christian child care schools with Christian programming. And that's, of course, you know, church and state mixing unfairly as usual to wait where the public funds go.  And it's just not right. Very true. Boudreau, listen, the idea that nuns are rising, I don't know if it's just on your block or in your household, I imagine most people are atheist, but you have people coming into your home. Do you feel like in your neck of the woods in Lexington, do you feel like it is, how do I put this, relatively none populated? Or is there still like, would you would you compensate? I don't think it's one out of two people here, or maybe you just haven't asked. Feel free to jump in. I'll just keep extending my question longer and longer. That's interesting. I mean, we're in Kentucky, so we are, I think, kind of part of the Bible Belt, at least a little bit. We're a red state too, which I think, you know, definitely plays into this. But we're in one of the bigger cities, or in Lexington, so it kind of depends. You know, if I'm going to soccer a game in a smaller town nearby, most of the parents are from that small town. I'm probably the only atheist in the group. When I go to work, my office suite, I think there's actually one religious person nearby. So it depends. I think, you know, my street, you know, I can probably count on one hand the number of atheists, I suspect.  So, yeah, I think context matters. But, yeah, that's a tough one to ask. Actually, one of the things I found interesting driving around our Kentucky license plate, you have an option for, in God we trust, which I think it's not the default luckily. Unlike police cars in Georgia or something like that. But I've noticed that anytime I see, a lot of times when I see the in God we trust, I look down at the county and it's usually a more rural county. I've been kind of doing, you know, back of the napkin calculations thinking it's anytime it's my county, Fayette County, I usually don't see it, but anytime I see the in God we trust, I look down and it's some rural county. Yeah, I'm not sure if you guys are aware of that, but there's a weird litmus test when you get a driver's license in Tennessee or Kentucky where they ask if you believe in a God and want to represent that as part of the signing up for a car registration.  And you have to say no to get the other one so that you can get the secular version on your car. And it's like this weird, awkward thing. It's a very bizarre thing where you're in front of everybody and the lady's looking at you. And I, here's a small victory. Here's a small victory dress like I can't believe this like welcome to America. I can't. I'll be right back. In Tennessee they've redesigned the license plate. So like now there is a new issue of license plates that are completely different color and there's only one option and it has no God on it whatsoever. So it's in Tennessee, it's in Tennessee. Have you seen the new blue license plates Larry? Yeah, but you do have an option for in God we trust on it. But now you have to ask for that. So it's been flipped around. Oh, okay. So now it's not no to get the non-religious one. Now it's you're getting this one. Would you like a religious one? Would you like one for autism? Would you like one that for this? Now you have to go out of your way to pick that one. So like the default has swapped. And I appreciate that. Skye, are you calling from Tennessee or Kentucky? San Antonio judges. San Antonio is do you have any weird license plate things that you want to bring up? I know what we have that's weird is we haven't in God we trust law for the schools, which I am very much against. The schools have to post in God we trust in prominent letters. Some schools, it's only at the entrance. Some schools like public universities. It has to be in every building. Okay. Wow. I think we have the same thing here in Tennessee. Yeah, you do. I've got over somewhere. I was going to brag on our superintendent for our public school system in Kentucky. We had that we had that rule too. And he put a dollar bill in all the public schools near the front because it has in God we trust on the dollar bill. And so it's a slightly enlarged dollar bill, but I thought it was a pretty clever way of getting around it. I mean, I think God appearing on the money was one of the worst decisions ever because it galvanized in American thought the connection between capitalism and religion. I would much rather see our real motto Eccluribus Union there, which now is relegated to the back. And the most bizarre, I love it, registering a Pasifarian thing. It's one of the things where the more Christians try to push religion into the public circle, the more they do it in the least Christian way possible. Of course. The last thing God or Jesus would want his name to be on would be on the thing that we throw at strippers. Has anyone ever connected, at least put it on the twenty dollar bill? That's clever. But you know what one dollar bills are for? You put them underneath the twenty dollar bill to make it look like he got even more money. Like that's everyone knows it. Okay, anyway, I do have this question for kids, guys who have kids. If your kid didn't want to say the Pledge of Allegiance and this is an older comment question that we had that I wanted to bring up again. So I'm sorry for the person who asked it. I forgot their name, but it was an important thing. Like if for atheists who have kids and their kid comes home and it's like, hey, I got in trouble for not doing the Pledge of Allegiance. How would you react to that? And would that be an issue if they can explain why they didn't feel like they had to compel themselves to say a thing to a flag? Dred, I know you have kids. Larry, you too, George. I think everyone here is kids. No, I don't. Well, I have a stepdaughter. Okay, so Dred. But she was an adult when I got married. So she got to shoot. So she came back from school being like, they didn't want to let me say the Pledge of Allegiance. You would have other questions for her. Oh, Dred, you're from Canada. I'm not sure if they have such a thing. No, but we do, of course, have our anthem. Okay. And one of the lines is God keep our land glorious and free. So I say quab. Quab keep our land glorious and free. Okay, okay, okay. So Larry, what do you think? Well, first of all, nobody should be compelled to take any kind of oath. If it's under duress, an oath is invalid. Right. I mean, simple and clear. You should not be forced to make an oath. Right. Period. So we're not. So the superintendent comes out like we're not putting her in trouble for not saying the oath because that would be the case, right? We're getting her in trouble because she doesn't want to say the oath. It's just like that's so terrible. Pick a different school. Have you ever had, what would you do in that kind of reaction if your kids came in and were like, hey, we stayed quiet during the Pledge of Allegiance and now we're in trouble. Yeah, I would back them up on it.  I will point out that my daughter says the Pledge of Allegiance and then skips the God bit because that's in there too, but she just skips that part purposefully. So like the whole speech goes through and then for some reason your daughter ends like five seconds earlier than everybody else but screams it out just as loud and then was like, hey, she skipped the part. It's like, yeah, that's right. Remember me. Remember me. Yeah. Nice. I love it. Dredd. Yeah, I was going to say that I would agree in terms of the Pledge of Allegiance and what's what we're seeing in Canada of course is with the truth and reconciliation movement pushing ahead. Every meeting and every conference that you go to nowadays is started by a representative of a date of ban upon whose unceded lands the conference is taking place.  It's just, I mean, it's just replacing one religious observation with another in my view and I refuse to do either. So that would be my kids. You know, certainly if one of my kids said that, I would ask them why or what compelled them to not rise and then listen to the explanation because that's the important part is that they just said, well, I, you know, you know, they were dissing somebody. Right. That would be different than just making a stand about their own right to expression and right not to express. Right. Right to expression. Right. It's like speech and choosing when to speak is still a right whether there's a religious or cultural obligation there or not. Right. Right. I can respect that. Skye, what's up? The original pledge as it was written by Francis Minister William Bellamy did not contain the words under God. That was added in the 50s when we're slapping God all over everything because of the Cold War, the Godless commies. Right. That's 1954. I think that was a big year that money started getting. I believe 1950s. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, we put it in our money we added under God to the pledge. I have a little notebook somewhere that tells all the stuff we did during McCarthyism. Yeah. That was scary. Right. Can you imagine what it must have been like to be an atheist or a person of color in the 50s? Oh my God. Well, I was there in the 40s. I'll tell you that not as bad as it was in the 30s.  Well, I was there. But it gets better. I was there when it was happening. And you know, I was in school when the under God came in and I was refusing. I was refusing to say the project of allegiance and I was even refusing to stand up when everybody else was doing it. Good for you. And I got I caught some flak for that. I mean, it's just imagine the 50s. The very end of the of the pledge negates the whole pledge with with liberty and justice for all. Well, liberty means I have the right to not recite the pledge. And justice for all means I have the right to never be punished for not reciting the pledge. Yes, really good points. Very good points, George. That's wonderful. Well said. Yeah. Yeah. And what would I do with my kid? Well, I would just back him up. You know, whatever he wanted to do was fine with me, you know, I and I don't have a kid.  And I don't see how it applies or I have some problems with it. So like when everybody stood up to to say their support, I stayed sitting down because I'm not that I'm a guess it is that I still have questions about it. And I'm going to want to do my personal research like you have the right to do that. Like you have a right to think about things before you just go with the crowd, right?  That's something we should be fostering in schools, not so much punishing, in my opinion, though, you know, that is just my thought. If we had an atheist pope, maybe we can get some more support for that. That'd be what I'd look for in my stump speech. We'll do this as our last calling for before we go out. So on the topic of an atheist pope, top three things we want, top three things we don't want, and maybe we can get there by consensus. And I'll throw out my top three and then we'll feel free to three of the three things I don't want. So obviously the things that I don't want are fancy hats because I don't want atheists to wear fancy hats. I know wear fancy hats if you want on your own, but don't make it a matter. I'm not going to be an atheist then. I'm sticking with past affairs.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They're not mutually acceptable. Not everyone get a hat that cool, right? And not every atheist has a head, right? Oh, what's up? What's up, Skye? Oh, well, actually, in surveying world religions, I have found that weird headgear and robes are very important. Yes, yeah, because you have to look the part, right? It's just costuming. It's part of the fantasy. It's like why, you know, handcuffs are so important for fetishes. What else can you do about it? Anyway, second one, let me eat my bacon. No, we know how to cook it safely. Like, come on, what are you doing? And I would say the third one is good reps. So like if everybody in Congress and in the leadership all look the same, there's a problem. Make sure that you have as much of a multifaceted approach in your advertising as you do your leadership, because it's that idea of compromise. It's that idea of empathy. It's you get it by living that experience. And if your leadership is informed by that, that could be a great thing. And so, yeah, I'd like to see a variation. I'd love to see diversity. I'd love to be able to eat my bacon and no headgear. And that would be my three things, my recs that I would give to our upcoming Rising of the Nun Pope Representation System for Atheism as a whole. Dred Pirate, what do you think? Well, like I said, I'm much more into fascitarianism and the rule of the Pirate's consensus. And that's that's what I would like to see in either the Nuns, the Atheists, or the Pastafarians. Nice, nice. And potlucks though. It seems like you need to have a lot of potlucks to keep everybody. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Nice. Well, that's great. I mean, food is good. Very, very cool. Very cool. Hear me out. Here's a weird thing. Sorry for this weird tangent. But is there a space pastafarian sect of pastafarians? So it's like, yes, ships are cool, but spaceships even cooler. We're going to get there. We're going to get there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to put it up to Elon Musk to name the first spaceship to Mars, the bounty. Yeah. All right. Eric Boudreau, what would be your final top three tips for our Pope Atheist system? Well, I think I came up to two of each while listening. Inclusion, I think, kind of slightly touches what you were saying too. But yeah, I mean, anyone could be a part of it. You don't have to.  Oh, interesting. Bring in, welcome anyone. Yeah. And different different people. I'd say holidays. Let's get some holidays. Let's get some holidays. I mean, I love that.   You know, Easter is just it's the most boring holiday. I have my kids are old enough now we don't bother with the look on for eggs. And otherwise, there's nothing to it. So let's get a good and then I guess the two things we wouldn't want.   There's no, there's no pressure. And then I had another, another good one, but it escaped me.  And it's like, why is this a holiday? We should get rid of this. And it's like, let's you have some good Easter candy and it's peeps. And that's all you got. No, no. Get rid of this holiday. Just get rid of it. There's nothing good about this. What's up? What's up? I was just going to say that up in British Columbia here, we have what is now called family day. And so that's a secular celebration. Here, here's my, here's my, here's my replacement tip. I would say call it tie dye shirt day where everybody just goes out and tie dye shirts and you can roll into family day. And it's still the Easter vibe, but like tying dyeing a shirt is always a fun activity. It's always fun. And then you get clothes afterwards. It's so cool. It's just like, yeah. Yeah. We're shooting for past over. Nice. We have talked like a pirate day. We do. Yes. Yes. That's a guy. October 15th. Oh, just wanted to remind you that Easter has chocolate. Every holiday has talked out of bunnies. Yes. And Valentine's Day. Just after Valentine's Day. What are you doing? Come on. Do you know why Easter bunny chocolates are hollow? No. It's to represent God's promises. Well played. Very good. Very good. George Brown, anything you would recommend as the atheist could do better in terms of? Well, I really, I can't because I'm passing a brain stone right now. I know you've been talking about better advertisement. How do we get the message out to non-believer? Oh, how do we? Yeah. How do we get respect from these people? I don't have an idea for that right now. Sure, sure, sure. But maybe the Pope will. Maybe the atheist Pope will. Maybe the Pope will, yeah. And can set it up for us. Larry, what's up? Well, I have three things, I think. First, no authoritarianism. They strictly represent themselves and atheism and they don't pass decrees, as it were, that are forced on anybody else. Now, there was a person who said, I remember who it was, said that we can't, we shouldn't have mean atheists. But the thing about it is, as Daniel Dennett said, there's simply no way to, no polite way to tell people they're dedicated their lives to an illusion. They're going to consider you mean if you question their beliefs, period. So we shouldn't worry about that. And as far as Easter goes, okay, forget the exit. I think we should throw Lego pieces out in the yard, have all the kids find them. And then after they find them, they all come back, combine them and then build something. How's that? That's pretty good. Okay, it sounds so good on paper until you step on a Lego piece where you're in the middle of September, and you're like, why did we come up with this holiday? What are you doing in the yard in the middle of September? Or are you finding your dogs? You can't find all the pieces.   You put the Lego in there.  I have a brilliant idea to add on to this. You make the Lego pieces out of sugar. So it's still candy and you can still brick them together. Yeah. And that way it dissolves outside. Very close to ending. We need to go ahead and get final words. Dred, pirate. I'm going to go around and ask everyone what they'd recommend to see next week and then where can we find their stuff? Dred, pirate. Where can we find their stuff? And what would you recommend we check out before next week? Well, my stuff is I live stream this at 7 a.m. on Sunday mornings at 7 a.m. PDT Pacific Daylight Time. And my channel is Mind Pirate, M-I-N-D-P-Y-R-A-T-E. Check it out. If you like it, subscribe. And I am reading this book Breaking the Spell. Daniel Danitz, Breaking the Spell. Great, great read. He's a master writer and he really knows this stuff. So I'd recommend that. Nice. Boudreau, what do you recommend that we check out next week and if you're still making stuff where can we find it? Man, I'm not making any stuff. My dear friend, Chad White, hasn't talked to me since December 4th. Yeah, it just really, really, really hurt me. I don't get it. I got no closure. So I'm sad about that. But I did post in the chat about a link come to Kentucky in September for the Freethought Convention.  Sorry, Dredd.  So check it out. Yeah. So I'll tell you this straight out. I may not go to the. I'm probably I'm not. I'm not going to the Freethought Convention, but I will head up to Kentucky sometime this year. And I'll probably time it at the time when both of us can go out and play some disc golf together. If you have. Disc golf, yeah. Hell, hell, hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Or or volleyball. I'm down with both. I'm down with both. If you just want to hang out, I'm totally cool with that. I'm totally. We actually won our Marika's championship a couple weeks ago. Very, very cool. Guys, sky. Thank you so much for joining the show. It's always good to have you on. Go ahead. Do you have something you'd like to add? Oh, yeah. I have a Facebook page called the Nova Fitti and Bronicles. And it's a kind of irreverent atheist approach to the Bible, to God and to politics. And then I also have a Facebook group that I'd like to encourage everyone to join called humans for a kinder world. Very nice. George Brown, second and a half. Do you have anything you'd recommend we check out? No, I don't. I don't today. Thank you. OK, fair enough. Listen, I would recommend that you check out James Baldwin. He is a poet of the 1960s. What he's known for is being very critical of religion at a time when it was not only hard to do so as a white guy, particularly hard as a black guy. And he he used to be a Pentecostal preacher. He has a quote here that I like really well. It's in one of his plays. It says, if the concept of God has any validity or any use, it can only be to make us larger, freer and more loving. And if God can't do this, then it's time we get rid of him. And to say that as a black guy in the 1960s, that is that is some powerful justice going on right there. But James Baldwin, recommend you check out some of his poems. He's a really great playwright, too. Wrote some some like the cornerstones of what I grew up with. But anyway, you can find myself a Let's Chat. You're probably on YouTube right now. Feel free to leave a comment. We'll go through it next episode. And if you have any questions about Athens, then you don't know what it's about. Well, that's I'm sorry, we can't answer it. It's not like a book exists for that. So anyway, Larry, take us out. Sorry. Can't help you. Uh oh, he's on mute. He's on mute. He's on mute. He's basically going to say there's no way we can help you. But if you don't know what it is and all it's all about. Sorry. Right. No, my content can be found online at digitalfreethought.com. Be sure to click the blog button for a radio show, archives, atheists, songs and many articles on the subject. My YouTube channel can be found by searching for doubter five or Larry Rhodes. And my book is atheism. What's it all about? It's available on Amazon. 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Good afternoon parents and guardians and welcome to our installment of this month's parent guardian webinar series. Today we have with us David Frastinelli, who is Fairfield University's Vice President for Facilities Management. He's going to give us an update on some of the new changes that are coming to campus. So without further ado, I will turn it over to David. Thank you, Elizabeth. As Elizabeth noted, I am going to talk a little bit about the projects that are currently under construction and give you a brief overview of some of the projects we have in planning. First and foremost is the new Dolan School of Business, which is under construction now. If you were to drive by the site, you'd see a great big hole in the ground. We're starting foundations. And what's particularly exciting about the School of Business is that when the students arrive in September, there should be a steel structure up in the air. Completion is targeted for July of 2019. So if you have an incoming freshman who is a business major, they will actually be able to use this building for most of their Fairfield University experience. One of the things that we are very deeply involved in is the technology. We see this building, similar to the recently completed School of Nursing building, as being an extremely technology-rich facility. Rooms such as the data analytics lab will have the ability to project many different data sources. We have a trading lab with Bloomberg terminals so that you can look at the impact of current news on trading activity. We have one-button studios where you can practice a presentation. And a lot of, we'll call them gaming labs, but it really has nothing to do with gaming and more to do with a presentation so that you could go into these studios and finalize your presentation. It's going to be an exciting project. Under construction right now, also, we have the sophomore dorm that is scheduled for completion in June for occupancy in the fall of 2018 this fall. We also are building a chiller plant so that that will provide the air conditioning to this new sophomore dorm. It will also provide air conditioning to one of the dorms that we completed in 2011, which is 70 McCormick, which I also believe is a sophomore dorm. The goal of this planning is that this chiller plant will be able to provide air conditioning to all of the quad dorms. And so our plan is to do two more dorms over the summer of 19 and two more dorms over the summer of 2020. The first dorm that we will be renovating will be done this summer, and that is Campion Hall. We will start after the students' vacate in May, and we will finish in time for Campion to be occupied by freshmen in the fall of 2019. Campion also will be fully air conditioned. The renovations will, in addition to the air conditioning, involve complete renovation of the bathrooms, and the buildings were originally built in the mid-50s, so much more emphasis on larger trash rooms, but also recycling for sustainability. We are creating, and this image shows, lounges on not only the lowest level, the lower floor, but all the floors above. And we believe that these changes will reorient Campion more into the quad so that when the freshmen in this dorm are coming and going from the Tully Dining Commons, they will see this beacon of light in Campion Hall on the corner as they approach and be able to certainly look into the first floor lounge to be engaged with any activities that are in there, and of course the lounges on the upper floors. As I just mentioned, Campion Hall is the first of the five renovations. We see these spaces as creating programmatic opportunities for living learning experiences, but more importantly, as we progress through the quad, between the building renovations and landscape work and creating gateways, that we are creating an overall experience in a community in this quad area. It's very exciting. We also have plans to renovate the townhouses, which remain the most popular junior-senior housing. We have continued to invest in bathroom renovations, kitchen renovations. All of the townhouses have sprinkler systems, but the exteriors look dated and tired, quite frankly. So our program is to come up with some brighter colors and re-skin the buildings, new roofs, new windows. And to that end, we will be doing two of the townhouses this summer. Buildings 14 and 15. We hope to get some valuable lessons learned. And we're planning their 15 buildings in total of doing the balance of the townhouses on a phased basis over the summers over the next three years. We are also contemplating additional housing in the southwest corner of the campus. That's actually down near the existing school of business, and I have a typo in that corner of the campus, and that would be 126 beds, junior-senior housing as well. Another project that we are currently in the early planning is the creation of an academic commons in the Domenna Nicilias Library. This is actually a trend you're seeing across most universities where there is less reliance on print material, bound periodicals, and more reliance on electronics. It's creating opportunities for additional space to become available in the library. Interestingly enough, the Fairfield University Library currently is home to academic support The University's Writing Center is in that building. The IT help desk is in that building, and we are looking at what other functions would make sense to go into that building to create a single destination where students looking for academic support can go. Again, this project, we are in the very, very early programming stage and hope to come up with some specific concepts by the fall semester. The university is also looking into renovations of the Banau Science Building. There are some significant infrastructure needs, but more importantly, when we built the School of Nursing and Health Studies, we created additional classrooms on the upper floor that would then free up space in Banau where we could create new labs, take out what was a traditional classroom, and put in a lab. This is driven a lot by the needs, the space needs in the sciences. There is in general more students taking classes in science. We also, with a robust School of Nursing program, there is more pressure on the sciences. And with the successful School of Engineering programs, there's more pressure on physics and other sciences. So the plan for Banau is to address the infrastructure needs, but also look at the creation of additional instructional labs in Banau. This will also allow us to clean up after a lab by having an additional lab that we can stagger between periods. If we have a first period class in a lab, it gives them time to clean up and then actually set up for the next lab. So there is an important efficiency factor here. Again, with the Banau, the initial programming is complete, and we are planning to onboard the design team and move this to the next level. The campus has seen quite a bit of new construction with the Tully and with the School of Nursing and Health Studies and with the School of Business. We are continuing to look at the existing buildings that have served the university so well over so many years that are in need of some freshening and renovations. Specifically, Canisius and Donnaruma are very, very important classrooms and faculty spaces for the university, and they are in need of interior renovations and some infrastructure upgrade. So we again are looking at what we can do to improve the quality of those experiences. One of the things that is also very important to me, particularly the Fairfield University campus, is the overall beauty and appearance of the campus, the greenness of it. A lot of the beautiful trees that we benefit from today were planted a hundred years ago, and the question that comes to mind is who is planting the trees that will be so beautiful a hundred years from now? To that end, we retained a landscape design firm known as the SLAM Collaborative in Glastonbury, Connecticut, and they have started with a detailed tree inventory of all of the trees on campus with some recommendations of which ones need some maintenance and pruning, but more importantly they are coming up with plans for plantings that are reflective of the overall campus as opposed to a specific project. Current engagements include replacing the green roof on the Barone Campus Center, upgrades around Bellarmine Hall, particularly the new parking lots, some of the other projects I have shown you, which is the junior housing in the townhouses, but also very significantly a tree replacement program. With the building of the new School of Business, there were approximately 49 trees that needed to be taken down. We will be planting 50 to 52 new trees to replace those trees, and in general there are a number of opportunities across campus where we can continue to plant and upgrade. That is my brief presentation, and we are open for any questions. Sure. We only received one question, but how are you choosing which dorms will get air conditioned first? The air conditioning in the quad dorms is the priority. We have picked Campion as the first dorm because we hope to get some lessons learned with the first project, and we picked the smallest dorm. It also is easiest to isolate from the ongoing construction associated with the Chiller Plant and the new dorm, which will be finished up over the summer. We have two dorms in the quad that are larger than the others, so Jogues and Regis are the two largest dorms. We would pick one of the two largest dorms to go next and try and match that with one of the smaller dorms, so it may be Jogues and Gonzaga. It may be Regis and Loyola, or some combination thereof. But again, current thinking to do one this summer and then two and two over the next two years. Great. Thank you. Any other questions? I should note that my email address is posted on the website, and if anyone has any questions, they should feel free to email me, and I will try to answer the questions, and I really appreciate your listening to my presentation. Thank you.


My question is from John 2022. I know the Holy Spirit was given at the day of Pentecost But this this seems to contradict what that seems to contradict that could you explain? I sure could say that this comes up quite a bit in John 20 Jesus does something And let's be honest guys. There are some times that people in the Bible do something. It's just weird to us That'll make any that'll make any sense Jesus does something and the guys had to be looking around like What's up lord? What are you doing Jesus? This is what he does Let's let's start in verse Let's start in verse 20. This one Jesus shows up to the apart to the disciples After his resurrection and when he had said this he showed them both his hands and his side The disciples then rejoice when Jesus when they saw the Lord. Hey, this really is Jesus This really is I can hear the now guys. I Listen, I can hear Peter saying dog on it and I can hear Thomas saying gosh dog it That's what they were saying. This really is Jesus. So Jesus said to them peace be with you as the father has sent me I also send you I also Send you I am sending you the word pimp don't I'm sending you Then what does he say and when he had said this he breathed on them and said to them receive The Holy Spirit now this word receive it is an imperative. It's a command Receive the Holy Spirit. So did they receive the Holy Spirit now? Or did they did they receive it on the day of Pentecost? Pentecost or should we say they received it then and as some would Say there was a second infusion a second baptism of the Holy Spirit. No, it was not For two for two verses for the same reason or let me just put this way. There's two ways of proof that it didn't happen John 15 26 says this when the helper Comes whom I will send to you from the father that is the spirit of truth procedure father He will test five me and and you will test five me because you have been with me from the beginning Let's go to I think it's 16 What is it 16, okay Let's go to 16 7 I tell you the truth It is to your advantage that I go away That I just that I go away For if I do not go away the helper who's that the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit will not come to you But if I go I will send him to you and he when he comes will convict the world concerning sin And righteous in judgment. So what is he's the same? You're going to receive the Holy Spirit. He gives a little more detail in chapter 16 that He's gonna come when I go. He's not coming for them. It's to your ad that your advantage that I go So when I go he's going to come then We go to Acts 1 Acts 1 Hey, Jesus makes this statement famous David He says speaking to them in a few days He says but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be my witnesses Which is him just iterating what he said in John 15 and 14 Also in John 20 what he's saying he gave them a command in John 2022 to receive the Holy Spirit They had not received it yet. Even though he blew on them. They had not received it yet because Acts says you will receive the Holy Spirit. Jesus already told them that you will receive it once I go in John 20 Jesus hadn't left yet So he's gonna leave the Holy Spirit gonna come but we didn't he didn't say exactly what date the Holy Spirit would come on But sometime after he leaves he sees them in in Acts 1 and tells them that you will receive the Holy Spirit and be my Witnesses and then in Acts 2 we see the Holy Spirit being poured out. And so this is not a second Baptism or a second outpouring. This was the first outpouring the only outpouring that they ever needed by the way So that's what that is. Hope that helps


Hello everyone, it's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Cards and I'm ripping 2022 Panini Gold Standard Football Hobby 12 Box Full Case Break Number 3, Random Divisions. Here's a look at the random results. Again, you can always find these at leightonsportscards.com underneath the results tab and the link is also in chat for you. Alrighty, best of luck. Eight to go now on that flawless. We are getting there. Eight to go. So that filled up breaks here and about three breaks. We got this, then we got select tourism and then the flawless. Here we go. Good luck everyone. We've got Kyron Williams that is one out of 25 NFC West and Orange 15 out of 30 Skymore for the Chiefs, AFC West. Got NFC East, White Gold, two of 25, Zeke Elliott. White Gold has always been one of my favorite inserts out of this. I wish they had like White Gold autographs or something. That would look sick. Stay in with the NFC East. We've got Drew Pearson for the Cowboys on the Hall of Gold Patch 49 of 199. AFC North, a Trey Hendrickson, 13 of 25 on the gold. Staying with the AFC North. We've got Antoine Randall L on the Golden Age autographs, 53 of 99. Another player. That was tons of fun to watch. Oh yeah, he's good. Yeah, heck of a player. And wow, AFC North killing it this box. Kenny Pickett on the triple relic rookie jersey autos, seven of 149. AFC North, Dave C, there you go Dave. We'll mag that one for you. First pick of the night. What did you say? One off jersey number two. Yeah, it's like seven. Oh wait. Yeah, I thought it was for a second. It's Big Ben. Ooh, fourth and one, are they going to go for it? She's got it. Browns, man. I would.  Oh, we've got Hassan Haskins that is 92 out of 99 AFC South. And Eric Ezuganma, nine of 10 on the rookie auto AFC East, and they get it fourth and one. What do you think? We've got NFC North. Yeah, they did. Golden plated. DeAndre Swift, 107 of 299. They didn't even hand. Oh wait, yeah, they did. It's green. Honto is not 277. We've got AFC West, White Gold, 279 of 299 Clyde Edwards, Atlanta. NFC East, Stack Press got on the gold gear. That is 162 of 299. Gold gear patch. NFC East, a Drew Pearson on the gold jacket, 92 of 99. 92 of 99 there. And AFC East, we've got Dual Relic Jersey Auto, 122 of 149, Taekwon, Thornton. Oh yeah, Randy. It must be box three here. Bruno Mars stuck in my head for some reason. I don't know why. We've got 54 of 99. Danny Gray Rookie, NFC West. Here he is again. Gold dust. Here's the Ultra Rare, three out of 25. Matt Corral, NFC South. Danny C, first one of these that I think we've pulled. Gold, I have not seen one of these yet. Out of all of the gold standard that we ripped yesterday. That's really sharp. I like that. Gold dust. We'll mag that one for you, Grats. We've got AFC East, Eric Esugama on the newly minted, 212 of 399. Then we've got Warren Moon on the Haul of Gold Patch, 85 of 199. Oilers will go to the Titans, so AFC South. Got NFC East. Terry McLauren, 24 and 99 on the Gold Strike Auto. It's a 99. NFC North, 10 of 25. Golden Debutes, Rookie Auto of Aiden Hutchinson. NFC North. Amy B, there you go, Amy. We'll mag that, yeah. Literally every single gold standard breaks so far tonight. We have pulled at Aiden Hutchinson, either Patch Auto or Auto. And we've got Rookie Jersey Auto, 161 of 199. Zamir Whites, AFC West. AFC West. All right, solid first three boxes there, wow. Again, everyone, only break left with spots for tonight is Flawless Football that is a two box, full case break. Tiered random teams. So two teams per spot, one from the top tier value-wise and one from the bottom. We've got Joey Bosa, one out of 30 for the AFC West. There's a print line straight down the middle there, unfortunately. And AJ Terrell, that is nine out of 49 for the Falcons. NFC South. Now we've got NFC East of Dallas-Goddard on the Gold Gear. 269 of 299. Gold Gear. Jordan Brooks on the White Gold, 148 out of 299. NFC West. NFC North. We've got Gold Gear, 79 of 299. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers patch there. Claire Warren. NFC East. We've got Rookie Auto, 3 of 49. Carson Strong. Carson Strong. And AFC West. We've got Rookie Jersey Auto, Gold Ink, 17 of 49. Isaiah Spiller. Chargers. We've got Rookie for the Browns. Perion Winfrey, 89 of 99. AFC North. And AJ Terrell, that is five out of 49. NFC South. Eli Mitchell for the Niners on the Gold Rush, 135 out of 299. NFC West. AFC North. David Bell Rookie Patch, 185, 399 on the Newly Minton. I just said that's true. Good Lord. That's funny. Good point there. We've got Jack Cohn, Rookie Auto, 10 out of 25. AFC South. For all the people who are legally streaming at them, maybe. Yeah. And then we've got Alec. Oh, sorry. Hold on. Just kidding. Two cards stuck together. Rookie Auto, 118 of 199. Alec Pierce. AFC South. I got a little sneak peek at the last card there already, though. We've got NFC East. Jumbo Rookie Jersey Auto, 117 of 149. John Dodson, NFC East. What a one-on-one laundry tag earlier of him. That was sick. We need to make this a soundbite. Oh, geez. I got another idea. I do. I mean, it's very, like, very situational. You can really only use it in one situation. We said that about the Kaboom, too, but we've been using that for... True. This one is like... AFC North of 49. Parion Winfrey and Marvin Leal, AFC North. The 75. Rookie? No, Rookie. No, I got it. AFC North. Gold Rush. Evan McPherson, 21 of 25. There's this guy, like, this musician I follow. He was like a huge Penn State fan. So he was the one who made, like, the song about Trace McSorley. He made one about John Dodson. Yeah, that's very, very specific. Yeah, very specific. Danny Gray, 190 of 399. NFC West. Every time we pull with John Dodson, you just play this. Perfect. That would be very specific. Very situational. NFC East Rookie Auto, 155 of 199. Kennedy Brooks. I mean, they released a statement, Baknes, but we are not sure exactly when those will be shipped. We're going to get them the same time that everybody else does. We've got NFC East. Good is Gold, Tony Pollard. That is 16 out of 199. 16 of 199. And nice one here. Wow. Rookie Jumbo Jersey Auto, AFC South. Malik Willis, 27 of 39. Three-colored patch. Beautiful hit there. Again, AFC South. Danny C has both South divisions. There you go, Danny. Very nice. We'll mag that one for you. That's what I wanted to do. I want to check the fantasy squad. I was going to do something. Yeah, I haven't checked mine either. I think I just have Beyonce Johnson. I don't think I have any Browns players. Nice one here. We've got two of 75. Crystal Lave, NFC South. And a TJ Pledger, 5 of 99 for the NFC West. Got NFC West again. Eli Mitchell, that was not a good sign. Zero. 73 out of 299. Yeah, I don't think I've seen him much. We've got a Motherload, 258 of 299. Mike Williams, AFC West. We've got NFC West, a Shrey Lance on the Gold Rush. 283 of 299. Shrey Lance. I jinxed us. I said that right before the spray come. We got 400 points. We ran him at the end. And a Romeo Dobbs, 173 of 199. Brookie Jersey Auto, NFC North. Everyone, every break is filled up for tonight except for the last one. Flawless football, tiered random teams. That is a two box case break. Again, with tiered, you'll get two teams. One from the top value-wise and one from the bottom. Last time we checked, there were eight left. Let's get that filled up. It's coming up. AFC North, 14 of 25. Jalen Warren and Eric Esucanma. 35 out of 75. AFC East. NFC North, Gold Plated of the Andre Swift. 102 of 299. Going back to the AFC East. Eric Esucanma, 54 of 399 on the newly minted patch. NFC North, Rookie Auto. 51 of 199. Devonte Wyatt. Devonte Wyatt. NFC West. We've got good as gold patch auto. Eli Mitchell, 192 of 199. What is a redemption? Make up your mind here, buddy. Out of last year's products. But that would not make sense for him. No, no, I'm saying this next guy. Let's do this a redemption last part. Oh, I thought you were talking about Eli Mitchell. No, no, no. And we've got AFC North on the triple relic gold auto. 9 of 49, George Pickens. There you go. AFC North. Dave C. Nice one there to go with the picket. So you got Picket and Pickens. Both were triple, right? Triple. Nice one there. We'll mag that one too for you. Yep, still eight to go on that flawless. There is a leak right there for you. Again, almost halfway filled on that. Definitely need some help and some love getting that one filled up as it is breaking here in about two breaks. Haven't ripped flawless here in a bit. So it should be a fun one. All right. We've got rookie of Zonovan night 70 out of 99. AFC East and boy and my face 28 out of 49. Rookie NFC West NFC West. We've got gold gear one 48 of 299. Cam makers NFC West. We have a Pierre strong junior to 17 of 399 on the newly minted AFC East. AFC North and Golden Age autographs 91 of 99 Jamal Lewis. That's a cool one. And AFC North is staying hot here. We've got a Deontay Johnson good as gold patch auto 67 of 75. I remember pulling the one of one of him out of last year's. That must be cool. Yeah, it was. And then we've got a James Cook on the dual rookie Jersey Auto four out of 49 gold ink. Nice one there. AFC East Amy B. Nice one. They are four colored and two colored. Very nice. Few boxes left. We've got NFC West 9 of 75 Jamal Adams. A NFC West 54 of 99 Alan Robinson the seconds. And nice five out of 10 Breeze Hall rookie for the jets. AFC East to 10. Got AFC North on the gold gear 129 of 299 miles Garrett. Almost just got a sack. Almost. We have a CMC on the gold plated seven out of 299 NFC South. AFC North Joe Burr out of 299 on the mother load. I don't know if he deserves those things here. 247 of 299. I'm calling him Owen. AFC West on the gold jacket 21 of 49 will shields. Nice. It's a guy they call the fridge. Now that's one. Okay. He's got a big name I think though.  And then we've got AFC North on the jumbo rookie Jersey Auto 30 of 149 Kyle Hamilton. I did not think he was going to have an RBA in this. Now that makes that's very interesting now. My bank account. Like I said, I didn't watch that break last night. So whatever cards I get in the mail. I'll let you have first steps. Yeah. Let's just wait when I might hold on to his stuff. I was going to say if there's, I would hold on to him. Yeah. Pretty sure for sure.  No. That was a doober. No, there was a doober. No, there was a doober. No. That was a good year. Yeah. We've got 17 of 49 George Kittle for the NFC West and Devante Adams 74 out of 75 AFC West. I almost always keep Ravens unless they really do something to get on my bad side. Gold Rush 298 out of 299 Miles Gaskin. AFC East. AFC East. We've got a Derek Henry on the mother load 295 of 299. AFC South. NFC North. We've got gold gear. Two color patch 16 of 25 Aaron Rodgers. Nice one there for you. Player war on that. That's two color patch. NFC North. We've got Boomer Asiason on the Gold Age Autographs 5 of 25. We just need a Joey B. Pull the Carson Palmer Boomer Asiason. NFC West. We've got Rookie Jumbo Jersey Auto 7 of 149. Danny Gray. Danny Gray. All right. Last one here. Again, I do have 400 points to random off at the end here. So if I didn't jinx that in this last box by saying that. Again, let's get this flawless tiered case break filled up, everyone. Need some help getting that filled. Breaks here shortly. We've got Caleb Ellaby on the 71 out of 75 NFC or NFC West. And Chris Jones. AFC West 6 of 99. Got AFC West Gold Rush 19 of 299. Melvin Gordon the third. So West box. My goodness. NFC West. We've got a Kyler Murray on the gold plated. I think I jinxed it. Definitely jinxed it. Oh man. NFC South. So we've got a Desmond Ritter 124 of 399 on the newly minted. I knew I shouldn't have said anything. We've got another 400 points to random off here right afterwards. And a nice way to end it. Rookie Jumbo Jersey 10 of 149. Breece Hall for the AFC East. AFC East. All right. Again, we've got two 400 points. Gonna set up the random right now for it. Give me one second. All right. So the top two divisions after the random will take home the points. Again, each will get a 400 point card. Thriller dice. 10 times. Here we go. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. NFC East and AFC North. Both getting 400 points. All right. Let's go ahead and do a recap here. We'll do our relics first. Here we go. We have NFC South Desmond Ritter. Kyler Murray NFC West. Melvin Gordon III, AFC West. Aaron Rodgers NFC North. Derek Henry for the AFC South. Miles Gaskin AFC East. Joe Burrow AFC North. Christian McCaffrey for the NFC South. Miles Garrett AFC North. Pierre Strong Jr. AFC East. Cam Akers for the NFC East. Eric Izucanma for the AFC East. Yandere Swift, NFC North. A Tray Lance for the NFC West. We have Mike Williams for the AFC West. Eli Mitchell, NFC West. Danny Gray, NFC West. Evan McPherson, AFC North. David Bell, AFC North. Eli Mitchell, NFC West. Aaron Rodgers, NFC North. Jordan Brooks for the NFC West. Dallas Goddard, NFC East. Warren Moon Oilers. Again, we'll go to the Titans, which is AFC South. We've got Eric Izucanma, AFC East. Dak Prescott, NFC East. Clyde Edwards Illair, NFC West. Deandre Swift, NFC North. Drew Pearson for the NFC East. Zeke Elliott, NFC East. Next, we've got our autos. We have Breece Hall, AFC East. Danny Gray for the NFC West. Boomer Siasen, NFC North. Kyle Hamilton, NFC North. We have Will Shields for the AFC West. James Cook for the AFC East. Deontay Johnson, NFC North. Jamal Lewis, NFC North. Eli Mitchell, NFC West. Devonte Wyatt, NFC North. Romeo Dobbs, NFC North. You've got Tony Pollard, NFC East. Kennedy Brooks for the NFC East. Jahan Dotson, NFC East. Alec Pierce for the AFC South. Jack Cohn, AFC South. Isaiah Spiller, AFC West. Carson Strong, NFC East. We've got Zair... Sorry, Zameer White, AFC West. Terry McLauren, NFC East. Tyquan Thornton for the AFC East. Drew Pearson, NFC East. Golden Age Auto, Antoine Randall L, AFC North. And Trey Hendrickson for the AFC North. Then our Max Cards. We have AFC North on the Triple Relic Gold Auto, 9 of 49, George Pickens. NFC North, Golden Debutes, 10 of 25, Rookie Auto, Aiden Hutchinson. We've got the Ultra Rare, Matt Corral, 3 of 25 on the Gold Dust for the NFC South. The Triple Relic Rookie Auto, 7 of 149, Kenny Pickett, AFC North. And then the Beautiful Patch here, 27 of 49, Malik Willis on the Ricky Jumbo Jersey AFC South. Alright, that will do it for Gold Standard for the night. Thank you all so much for the fill. We've got more football coming up shortly.


Hey guys, what's up? It's our brother's birthday today, so we are going to my godmother's restaurant because she owns a restaurant called Petino's in La Val. No, it's in Maryville. It's in Maryville, I think. Laneville. So she owns a restaurant there, so we're going to his birthday breakfast there. Where is he? The birthday boy. How do you feel being 23? 23. How do you feel being 53? Hey. God damn! So this is my OOTD today. I'm wearing these shorts from Zara, and then these sandals are from Forever 21, and my top is from Romley.  I don't agree with that. I'm supposed to go out tonight, but I'm so sick. Michela, you took three months on your dream. Was that mayo? Yes. It's good. It's good. What if I just took the whole bowl? Guys, I love mayo. I have a mayo obsession. What's this? Oh, yes. Oh, wow. Holy graphical. That looks so good. Wow, okay. I'm going to eat. I'll tell you guys after. Hey guys, so he left patinos. I pretty much ate almost all my plate. Oh, yeah, you did. You should have seen her because her boyfriend can eat a lot of food, and we look over, and he's like, I'm so hungry. For real. I want to order like the most food possible, and we look at their plates, they order the same thing. Michela's almost like done her food, and he like, I don't know, she was just I feel bloated. Where does it go? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You really look at their plates. They order the same thing. Michela's almost like done her food, and he like, I don't know. She's like, I feel bloated. Where does it go? You don't blow. I'll take it's possible. I blow it. But yeah, so now we're just shopping. And like the outlets that are literally just right across the street. I already bought some flip-flops. And then I bought like this makeup bag. Things I need to know.  That's what you do. You try a bunch of stuff, because most of the time, like things don't look as good on as you picture. as good on is the picture so you find like one or two things out of everything everything is so cheap in the store it's urban behavior it's not thank you so I found this shirt it's $30 on sale for eight so I kind of have to get it so so cute on that queue yeah so I'm gonna get this only $8 so yellow hey guys so we are on a road trip we are headed to Orchard Beach aka Maine I think in Boston I think we have like an hour to our drive we've been driving for like six hours now we're staying there for a few days I think it's like three days and then we go back to Boston and then fly home so our trip is almost over we have like a week less than a week left now which is very sad but I'm excited to go to Orchard Beach and just have some fun we have some of my cousins going staying in a house condo thing there so it's gonna be fun we're making a pit stop at the Dunkin Donuts in the grocery store we are currently 20 minutes away so we're getting coffee we were just gonna stop at like the supermarket to pick up I don't really know what we're going to cook up but there so happens to be a Dunkin Donuts right across from it so we're gonna get some coffee she has a medical condition what's it called? Overactive Bladder yeah so a tiny bladder okay let's go get some Dunkin Donuts iced coffee losers boopa loads the card up no shame to Tim Horns but Dunkin Donuts is a lot better coffee wise like they have such better coffee I haven't really tasted anything else from Dunkin Donuts yet but Tim Horns can't really compete with their coffee especially their iced coffee sorry I don't even know what that is 70% off right so there was no toilet paper in the bathroom left and Brittany was screaming out of the door and the lady comes out with the toilet paper and Brittany is like what is this I love it man I can't do this first taste test I got iced coffee two caramel swirl with almond milk are we excited no I'm ratchet I'm so excited we're gonna go shopping spend all my money Donuts been abducted by the trunk and we need to get it out I haven't had it for the past five hours and how do you feel disconnected I feel separated wow look at the garage this is so they're so cute so it is the next day we're here at the old orchard we're going to the beach today I just got ready to go we're just getting ready to leave we're gonna go have breakfast and then we're gonna go walk on down to the beach and I think we're spending the whole day there what do we got over here happening the beach is right there as you can see and then there's a pool right there can't wait I need to get tanned move it pasty these days I wish I was a vlogger here I'm shaking the beach forever shameless shout out to our faves Chloe bento and Tori bento we miss you and it's how I miss everyone from one time you guys should come back hey guys so we are done at the beach and we're heading to the pier now it's already dark so we're headed to the pier now apparently it's really nice there's like rides there and stuff apparently it's like a 20-minute walk so I think we're almost there I can see the lights hey I got sober you're red person I'm like 10 but I'm ready hi guys so it's Deanna hit me up in the future oh it's a little blurry so as I say I'm having a future channel coming up I'll be gonna be called Beauty and the Beast because I have that on Instagram I'm a makeup artist and Michaela's gonna be my model one day and we're gonna do it actually I'm gonna be her model one day I'm gonna need all you as my models I need a piece so bad guys like it's getting bad like my pieces of the strip of my bladder and I'm gonna be my I pursue oh my god I've got to get me a tanky physics she that's just how you say I have to pay in Portuguese we have a tank a tank I'll tell you I'll tell you she's she's a little different I'm in Canada but I'm not legal here so I can't even go clubbing I can't even go out with us just hitching right back mom and then they're gonna go I'm gonna go over 25 you're 26 almost I've been calling you 26 for the past long while I'm not disclosing any beauty no she is my baby cousin your older cousin he wraps so the names wrapped right here you can get me on Instagram at wrap you know snapchat at wraps love all my fans and all my supporters shout out to Michaela unbelievable channel you guys have to subscribe right now if you're not subscribed we made it to the pier my legs are going on this ride I'm honestly so excited


Let's talk about this NAR lawsuit that's going on that's set to go to trial to start trials in October And I'm cannot even believe that it made it this far. It's anti-trust Sherman inter trust lawsuit Which is about a you know group of homeowners that are doing a clash action lawsuit against some of the biggest brokerages out there Kelly Williams remix name a few and basically they're saying hey you guys OS four billion dollars because you've got the buyer agent Commission being paid by the seller and that's not right You know the the buyer's agent should not be paid by the seller and so they're going out there and saying that That the the buyer agent commission needs to be reimbursed back to the sellers and this is a to me just a off-the-wall argument and I believe it's just a Just something that you know, you got these people that are trying to make a case I don't know. Maybe they legitimately believe that they're owed some Some some compensation here for this. Maybe they honestly legitimately believe that in their mind But there is a chance and I think this is maybe even a greater Possibility that it's just people looking up for somehow to make some money That's what it sounds like to me and how a judge is letting this through blows my mind Because when we go out and we get a listing, you know, let's say we take the listing for six percent We take the listing for six percent, which isn't negotiable by the way the seller can negotiate whatever commission They want and if they want to go, you know get a four percent commission from Redfin or you know one of these You know really low commission brokers just they can do so they can also sell it by owner There's a lot of different options. They can do so many different things when it comes to this commissions are not set In stone they are a hundred percent negotiable and so that that needs to be made really clear Which is really clear I believe but the general public, you know, they're just that they just think real estate agents make All this money for basically doing nothing. That's the general consensus of you know We're like real estate agents are above car salesman in terms of you know people that they feel are you know Snakey, you know snake oil salesman type sells people, you know that industry It's so crazy because it's not it's nowhere near the truth Real estate agents are incredibly hard-working people that are paid what the market, you know says that they're worth This is market value. What we're getting paid is market value If we were worth less then we would get less the market doesn't lie ladies and gentlemen It's like when you put a house for sale if it doesn't sell it's chances are it's overpriced If you get multiple offers in an hour chances are it was underpriced So the market doesn't lie and we need to listen to the market and when the market's telling us is that We're worth six percent, you know, some markets are different some markets, you know We get five most of the time so you know about half and half five or six fifty-fifty Sometimes we go a little below five to make a deal work But that's kind of the standard and people are more than happy to pay that Because they know what we go through and they don't want to have to go through what we go through to get their property sold So they're hiring us just they would a contractor to roof their house or a plumber or even a lawyer to handle a court case You know, whatever it is We are a professional that handles that juggles so much during the transaction to hold everything together For our clients and make sure their best interest is is there and that they get the the smoothest The smoothest perspective of the transaction we kind of handle all the bumpy stuff So nevertheless, let's say you go out there and get a listing for six percent on that listing agreement at least in my area We have on the listing agreement where we mark how much out of that six percent We're gonna pay the buyer's agent if in fact a buyer agent or a buyer comes along that's represented by another Real estate agent we're gonna pay them out of that six percent if we Represent the buyer as well as a transaction broker or however we represent them if we bring the buyer And there's not another agent involved then we're gonna get the full six percent And so you kind of look at this like a almost like a Contract like subcontracting, you know, whereas, you know a guy will go and sell a job to roof a house Right for a certain price and then he will pay a subcontractor to actually go out and do the work For a lower price and he keeps the profit It's really the same thing in essence when you think about it But the difference in this and that is the fact that We're not subcontracting to someone who's doing all the work like the guy does when he sells a roof We're still representing the seller and doing a lot We're doing 50% of the transaction and that's a whole nother conversation when a buyer comes in and we represent both sides Or there's no other agent involved We're doing twice the work now because we're representing the you know representing the seller and we're helping the buyer We're making sure the buyers take taking all the steps that they need to to close the deal as well and helping them through those steps So we're doing twice the work. That's something that isn't really talked about a lot either a seller You know hires us to sell a property like oh, well if you sell it yourself, you know, we're gonna do 3% We're gonna do lower than the 6% You know, and that's fine. I do those deals all the time where I take less if I represent both sides I'm perfectly fine with that but the fact of the matter is you are doing twice the work in those scenarios But you know, let's break all this down number one the commission is completely negotiable You know right off the jump if you want to pay less pay me less Right, if you think you can get it done, you know at this level of service cheaper, you know, go for it be my guest And then on top of that it's it's it's disclosed right there in the listing agreement that I'm gonna pay the buyer agent this much If in fact the buyer has their own agent that's representing them Which by the way is a very good thing to have a buyer's agent representing them on the transaction and So I just think this is kind of crazy for them to come out and and say it like this because the sellers willing to pay X amount To an agent to get their house sold What that agent does with that money if they need to pay out to to to you know, allow the buyer to have their own Representation I mean listen when you really break it all down It's almost like the listing agent is paying the buyer's agent commission not the seller The seller already agreed to list it for 6% you know, they've agreed to pay a commission to the listing agent regardless and By the listing agent going out and paying they're really the ones paying the buyer agent The listing agent makes less money not the seller in that situation seller makes the same amount of money They're paying 6% regardless right the listing agent is actually the one losing because they're giving half the money up to a buyer agent This whole argument is wild but let's let's think about this, you know in other countries like Australia and in Europe There's no buyer agents.  What good is that? What I mean that to me That's not really great for anybody for the buyer Especially but then again for the seller because you have this unrepresented buyer that you know may make some decisions They wouldn't have made if they would have had counsel It's just it doesn't make sense that that's the direction that they're going in again I think this could possibly be just a way for some people to make billions of dollars But if this were to go through which I think chances are probably zilch But I would have thought it would have been zilch to get this far If it does go through and say we do turn into a country where there are no buyers agents I mean, I mean that would flip everything upside down Everything would change commission structures would change but my question would be is if that happened, you know Would we still have buyers agents? And would they just get paid from a different source? Would it still technically be would it technically be someone other than the seller? But actually behind the scenes. It's actually the seller it like in other words, you know, will we have new lending regulations that allows? For the buyer agent commission to be figured into the loan Right. That's something that could happen where you know the buyer agent now gets paid And it looks like it's coming from you know out of the closing calls or something But it's it's really technically probably coming from the seller because you know the buyers paying more listen The whole thing is wild and it's something to watch. I don't think it's anything to worry about I think it's gonna be very interesting, but whatever happens. Let's just say worst-case scenario Remember what I always say worst-case scenario Imagine what that is Imagine yourself crushing it during that worst-case scenario and then if worst-case scenario doesn't happen You're really crushing it. So let's just say worst-case scenario buyer agents go away, right? Buyer agents go away and let's say commission comes down on the listing side, too Because you know for whatever reason let's say it goes down to 3% total on the listing side I mean this is like out there in space, you know, this is alien talk Thinking that that could possibly happen, but let's just say that's very worst-case scenario Okay, let me go out here and be the greatest listing agent ever known to mankind Right, I'm gonna go out here and list properties, which is what I focus on anyway and what everyone should be focused on But I know there's a lot of people who are strictly buyers agents. That's okay, you know Listen in that worst-case scenario. I mean, I believe we live in a world where buyers are still represented Okay, so let me just make that clear, but in the worst case that buyers aren't represented for whatever reason You have to be flexible. You have to be agile you have to be willing to say, okay, that this is what it is now How can I fit into this equation and make the very best out of this situation and go out here and crush it, you know And honestly when you look at this listing agents, I don't see anywhere in the mix where listing agents are going away All right, so listen Why don't you take the time for the next 12 months to become the most Amazing listing agent that you can possibly be develop those skills now and guess what happens Even if first case scenario doesn't happen, right and everything stays the same Now you're still the most amazing listing agent out there. And so that's what I think you guys need to focus on You know, if you're a buyer agent, then I think you should You know Transition into being a listing agent and not just a listing agent real estate agent, you know You help anyone buy and sell real estate if they want to buy great. They want to sell great That's the name of the game for me. I never classified myself as a listing or buyer agent I'm a real estate agent who is here to help anyone buy and sell real estate.  I enjoyed talking about it. Let me know your thoughts in the comments I'm gonna put a video right here for you to watch and if there's anything else I could do for you Please let me know talk to you guys soon