already did it before No, you neither of us at 69.  I'm sorry. See more. I'm sorry. I apologize mista 69 Um, apparently six away from 75 They said the trade-off starts to get really bad The last emoji was unlocked at like 50 members. I guess and the next one's 75 and the one after that's 100 It's like Jesus. What's the what's a lot? How many emojis does like dance gaming have or lyric or whatever? I think uh, all of the bigger streamers have reached the cap. They have like 10,000 subs is the max Look at this. Say 10,000 emojis. Like what the fuck? No, like 10,000 subs unlocks 40 emo slots, I think and that's like the max you can have Okay, no matter how much above that you go you you always have the 40 clown world hunk hunk In criminal justice the term force continuum was used for cops Basically, if you punch a cop he's allowed to pull out the baton and so on Oh my goodness Legal eagle cuck for hire. I mean, he's probably made some good cases in other videos I don't know. Like I said, I don't really know the motivation behind this one other than you seem kinder political Just a little bit Um With great power comes an even greater responsibility someone kill her effing uncle so she learns that That's pretty harsh, but I mean if it's got to be done to learn, you know Wolf daddy's finally home from going out to get a pack of cigarettes. He would laugh at that Certainly. I'm actually gonna put it in the selection of messages. I'll send Just to make him giggle It'll go after wolf.  Is this assault?  Congratulations and welcome to the That's racist. I'm gonna post um a mohler heart in moat to symbolize my appreciation Even though I ate a lot of Dressed to symbolize the the hard times are not over and we must continue Yes, someone's gonna gun out while reading the book What are the implications of that?  Let's have a look The dawn slightly folds map attempts to help captain marvel is flirty Carol hurts his hand threatens to further harm steels Lawyer she is the victim. Yeah, it seems Seems a bit off doesn't it legal legal platinum medal in mental gymnastics But we're still on the legal legal video This is Air is touching you and they touch your air punch everyone Right. Yeah, so if you were to punch the air for tier and the air is connected to everybody then ultimately you've just punched everybody Have you not I mean haven't everyone No, just you so I can sue you Not the the females I believe is pronounced female, but You saying that you're okay with punching the male Yes, and a wing wang that is very due to supposed to be leading cell Do you not notice your opinion? Yeah, it's a pretty good opinion though. You have to agree Yon Yon, I think you just yawned. I'm gonna confirm this with my science team Uh Superman man of steel legal legal justifies superman's destruction of Jagov's big rig truck after getting beer poured on his head I've not seen that and I've completely forgotten what's in man of steel outside of a couple details. So But um judging from that super chat it wasn't this person approved of Rikita law said that in civil cases who takes the initial instigating action is important Yeah, I agree with that, but I don't know what would be counters and initial action with uh You know that scenario I would imagine A jury wouldn't see him pulling the map down as a big Dota, but yeah I've been rang before He is not a person wolf. He is a lawyer. Ooh Anything it's unfair that people don't consider lawyers human Um, no, I think it's fair to Yeah, here's a dollar for every brain cell in this This person's head Plus an extra four dollars Oh, and he gave me five. So he's saying there's one brain cell. That's still kind of you to say that there's one brain cell All right Not gonna be able to keep up for a while by the time I'm back. It'll have been one year of efap. Stay awesome You three love from france um One year of efap will be august early august. I believe so We're almost there not quite there, but we're almost there He escalated the hell out of this situation agreed This lawyer looks like a discount gym hulpit I don't know who that is. I'm gonna have a look at gym hulpit Oh, it's the guy from um the office Yeah, it's like an older discount vision. I could agree with that Molly keeps saying no jury would agree with this massive, but california exists I mean, I'm being hyperbolic There are people who would agree because he is a person that apparently agrees with it And he could be in the jury at some point, but holy shit like Holy shit, you know in a molem brand of voice Do not disrespect the dawn disrespect the dawn you disrespect the family Moving too long. So the impression is going to be terrible, but I agree with the sentiment She literally and obviously needed a ride Um, I agree and it would have been cool to see them team up Dawn and captain america marvel versus the the world I would have watched it Watched the sequels it would have been great The dawn is the sidekick the dawn is the main protagonist Oh, you would have to be I how could you not have that?  Why I was a fucking stand-in Dawn came to my birthday party last week when no one else would also what does legal eagles wife's bf think of this crap We don't know zack something to discover one day Ex don give it to you beautiful dawn of justice The memes are all the best I'm all about that legal life, but not like this Yeah, that that quote will never age well Wow, he really said it he did he said several of the things that I am assuming you're referencing there Uh, he sounds like a dishonest male feminist catching Catching for virtue points for the girls he wants to bone He does take a lot of weird positions that could be explained by Holding certain politics, but I just I'm curious what his response would be to like a lot of the criticisms he's getting Perhaps you'll put out a follow-up video Uh feeling pretty mansplained to quake illegal not gonna lie exactly we have female people in the audience That he was uh mansplaining to and so he's he's now victimized people with the same thing that he accused other people of What do you have to say if yourself was here? Uh, I did not touch that woman In fact, I'll just believe that I mean have I ever told the lie except for the times that I told the lie? No Exactly you can trust me man wink wink. You can totally trust me wink wink. He's lying The robot you mentioned to just write is evil. That is true as evil as a terminator A terminator is the moral compass The terminator has better morals than captain marvel. We can at least agree on If nothing else this vid is made me want to watch t2 again been way too long That is a full Good choice to do everyone should be watched t2 because it's it's awesome. No denying The don is sarah connor's cousin That could be possible in timeline In fact, I choose to believe it I feel like the original point of the scene was to imply that plank was a programmed robot soldier of the kree But they gave up on that idea Yeah, they certainly didn't develop that because a lot of people have used that excuse like she was the bad guy guys It's like she never ever thinks about that again or ever develop what? Just know oh, did you see doc phoenix by the way? Nope you plan to Uh, not in the theaters now Was it horribly? It was okay. A lot of people are saying it was horrible. I thought it was okay Yeah, from what I've heard on the interwebs like I would say or like A word between bad and okay fine one meh I guess But not like an unbridled meh just a meh I see Interesting. I thought it would be horrible I was willing to chalk this down to him just making a bad video Which everybody makes sometimes and can forgive but him using mansplain unironically just lost all goodwill from me Yeah, because apparently he's never done that before so it's like He gets weirdly political of the video. I think at least I Assume his fans would feel that way. I don't know Well, what's the context of that anyway? um, I Think it was him saying that a lot of men have tried to mansplain the scene For the people.   I think a lot of lawyers will be making responses to him because it's we we know it's not all lawyers Uh don lives matter agreed Angry rags is almost as great as drunk rags Yeah, he was he was definitely pissed off by the video today. I don't blame him Poor guy has such a great selection of videos to respond to at this point So I still think he's planning on doing a response to the um The tizmy dude who like We covered on efap Is it the one it was the previous one I think uh I'm not sure I meant to ask if he was doing that still The dawn doesn't wheel my handicapped mother to physical therapy every morning at 5 a.m. To put up with this horseshit. I know but A lot of people just aren't aware of it. So Poor guy. He's he's lucky.  He wants attention hashtag disbar I mean the video isn't doing very well compared to his other ones. So I'm not sure the attention is going to be that great for him if your moral argument is external. It's objective Um, yeah, uh, like if you're not talking about how you felt about the particular thing, but he did say, um It was like a moral argument at one point. He didn't really develop much of it though Wait the moral if the moral argument is external. So like the The the the other commenter was talking about the um The moral Sort of thing in relation to law I'd have to look into it again because I was confused about that You'd think you would have said that specifically though, right? I thought he was just making a moral judgment like on a personal level You answered the episode nine question to new frontier Uh, I don't think so Don't you lie to me What's the question? Well, apparently you didn't and you were a guest. So I definitely should sort that out Fine. Who do you think will be the most inconsistent character of episode nine? Most inconsistent. Hold on.  Yeah, I'll just go with leia. That's the easy answer very well Duh, duh, duh, duh And yeah, someone said that you're not an official guest. What's here is guested on an episode before you're on episode I want to say two They just don't know you're on it. You're early memes. You are early memes And uh, what was your question? Sorry I don't know Oh, yeah, but what's this? Question Need for are you making a spreadsheet or some shit? Well, it's just like sort of I call it a bet but nothing's at stake and everyone's just voting for who they think will be the number one They'll character the most common votes are gone to fin and luke funnily enough With po being this the next most voted for I think anyway, unless my thing is outdated. I know that the subreddit keeps track of it We shall see He's not official today.  Okay, actually Not many people Yeah, at the end of it. He got a lot of love from chat. Thanks chat You're being very nice to mr. Vartilla. I appreciate that. He's nice, but He At the end of the brown table guy's video He says he's gonna run another game night and the last ones was disappointing because nobody really showed up But it was very funny If you ran a game night for tear everyone would show up. So what does that say? uh that I I'm a good person and I I do good things for people and they I I do things that are good for people not like I tell them what they need to hear not what they want to hear And it makes people hate me, but it makes me a good person.  It's only in the americano prove that Let me just hit up bing.com Said no one ever Thank you for helping me not waste my time on legal eagles channel. I'm Always it's always great to see you. They hope you all have a great week justice for dawn Um, I mean he might have some good stuff in general.  Why are you doing an e-fap spider-man is about to come out? It's not out yet though. God I appreciate that though. It's a it's a fair comment. It's very accurate We shouldn't be talking about anything but spider-man a4d looking forward to spider-man Yeah, it's funny because spider-man comes out too. Why are you talking about that when spider-man's coming out, dude? Oh god, I'm so sorry Oh, I've got 57 minutes before the time runs out. We still Have enough time. It's said unlawful physical contact brushing up against someone is not illegal um Yeah, just pull a mini me dude just start humping their legs Didn't it also say if it was considered offensive in there at some point? Could you possibly argue that? I think that's what his argument was. I can't remember Popular equals good obviously.  Oh my god.  I think We're making progress Paul crickin. He doesn't want to join in with bruce. Oh, I don't know the names of the guys, but yes You can tell it's a white guy. Wow. That's racist. Yeah, that was that did that just backfired completely though I thought that was really funny The co-host just sort of made the joke again people are still salty of a wills insult towards rose law. Oh, yes Yes, yes. Yes, that will be a forever thing Rich Evans's laugh is the reason I'm still alive. It is a very unique laugh. Nobody would deny that Uh Seeing as the three of your pc gamers, I assume what games would you recommend for someone who's relatively new to the platform?  There's no way Yeah, but um, I don't know like just sort of look at like top 100 pc gaming lists And you'll probably find all the best stuff The orange box is probably one of the best value things you could get as a brand new pc gaming person um Depends how much money you've got to spend as well, I guess there's there's lots there's lots things Uh reformed fairy evergreen guest and saint longman Yes Yes, please take down legal legal as a lawyer myself.  Her do allow me to explain dear viewer what the term plaintiff means well Sounds like you should make a video dude I'd love to see that lawyer breaking down a lawyer. Why not a Because fortia was gonna do it but fortia is not a lawyer Yeah, I forgot that part like I thought I was but I was like, oh fuck.   So um, he'll be interested and check out Mola has a flimple diggers that is a reference to battle stream Efap crew this sounds odd But I was wondering how y'all divide divvied up the super chats and how y'all take care of youtube money re taxes mostly just curious Uh different for all of us Wolf has ads since I can't remember if he said it has the off or on or what what he's actually doing right now I know that rags As things set up Tax wise all sorted. I'm um, I actually funnily enough got help from I hit everything Sorting out who I was supposed to contact for that stuff because it gets very weird and complicated But all separately done Um as for divvying up super chats that they I I basically take all of them unless they specifically Uh want to go to rags or wolf like they said to I'll pass it along sort of thing because like the idea was that I don't really do streams on my channel anymore Um because efap is Sort of the main content for streams every once in a while. I'll do one And the you know wolf and rags can continue to do this and I would happily do any guesting for either of them, but um I'm not sure what will happen down the line because again, I'm still kind of concerned efap could get knocked off youtube at any moment Um, but if we are able to like grow and expand and Whatever else we could probably set something up. I'm not sure but uh Yeah, like I said, if anybody was uh wanted money to go to either one of them specifically just let me know Because like I do the All the production side of things with efap not that it's like incredibly heavily complicated. It's just that Uh wolf and rags don't have to worry about any of it um And even the thumbnails uh rags was actually going to do them But then uh, we had a random person be a hero and make some very snazzy ones. Have you seen him for two? I think I sent them to Uh, have you? I don't know. Yeah mula's got sexy new thumbnails. Not more than our mula. I saw the uh, the like caricatures of you Like the the icon thingy the thumbnails for yeah, that's the thumbnails Just go on the mula channel. I see those And have a look at the videos. They are booty for Mula Efap crew this sounds oh wait, sorry. That's the same Hey, thanks a bundle for all the entertaining content you create and inspiring me to think more about content I watch slice and dice Why thank you sir for for sharing such things I think if wolf and rags were here, they'd be very happy to know that anybody gets a sort of boost of critical thinking Thanks to watching efap. We all very much have fun here. So it's um Definitely one of those things. Oh, I just realized by the way If I get this tired after like a seven hour stream and I'm planning on trying to do a 24 hour one for efap at some point I might have to be like Streaming the second I wake up and force myself to have like a long sleep And have monster drinks. I did do a 24 hour stream on twitch that one time Didn't I I played last of us from start to finish basically among other things Um Yeah, that'll be interesting to set up Get like a whole bunch of videos prepared Um rotate ghasts, it'll be great. It'd be great Well, maybe I'll even try and push it past 24 just to be that cool And try and avoid the meme of it being 19 hours that I had on my twitch for so many years Wasn't missed. How do you do a 24 hour stream on youtube? Oh, you do you break it up into 6 6 6 6 I imagine No Because seven seven seven and a half to do would be 15 22 and a half and then the last one. Yeah, maybe maybe seven and a half. So I don't know We shall see Uh wasn't mystique the one who came up with the name x-man in this universe anyway I'd have to check first class, but that might be true I can't remember.  I got here after the legal legal video now. I'm sad Don't worry Samuel. It shall be available in future But seriously, like if you have some really good ways to deconstruct him, you should uh Use it as a you know opportunity to make your own video In the next April Fool's video have a dedication to the death of toenails I definitely could Make a comment about how he's looking for work outside of youtube because it failed to It failed to correctly pay him It shall be considered Uh watch ori be an epic store exclusive where wolf would likely explode. Oh, he did mention that one Uh, I figure I've e-fapped more last month than I usually do. So here's money This is longer in better quality than most movies. So I'll buy a subscription also chat Does anyone know any professional memos? I have an idea, but no skill in the field Oh, yeah, geez. Thanks for the 50 dollars Charles Better kind of you and I'm glad that um I'm glad that everyone is healthily e-fapping. That's um It's very good. Uh, what do you have? Have you e-fapped recently? Have you been able to healthily? Pay yourself some e-fapping done. I believe I e-fapped using a controller Don't know. Yeah, is the new Shakespeare that you don't understand Don't know. We'll be look back on years to come. There's something to study It'll be the kind of thing where you put all of his videos out of order And then you attach all the different ways different things and it'll spell out like the key to the universe that sort of thing So, um, I'll be excited to see that finally get done I already know this from Wolf as he tends to talk about the subject more often But what would be rags and mollus favorite books if any? um Game of Thrones is probably my favorite From lack of reading enough books. I like to let many snicket books and I really like what I've read of Lovecraft's books Um, but I will Send that over to rags as well I guess all that needs to happen is that rags and wolf can separately do streams and then they can Answer these or they can answer them beginning the next e-faps completely up to that I don't mind. I'm technically part of the jewish 1% so I could afford to donate tonaldo some shekels Go for it. I don't know if he streams though Or if he has links, I guess you could go for the patreon. That makes sense Hey rags, is it a coincidence that the whitest male of apex legends character uses gas? Oh, yeah, it's gonna have to be a Rags there's a lot to answer for with that because apex legends is the game that he created I know this because I read it in a book Moeller, I legit saw someone have your old black and white pfp as a bumper sticker. Yes I've seen it a couple times as well I guess it's just a cool sort of graphic that a couple people use The video is the fatality I get it Tonald's video. Tonald himself has been an ongoing discovery Agreed The water is fascinating. I need this in my video Um, you saying that's what tonald said when he was setting it up because That's probably very true Tonald is like a baby turtle struggling to reach the sea. Oh That is that is him as a youtuber, I imagine Uh, as tonald would say if we look through the hypothetical spy glass of the passage of time into the future Time goes on He's moving on to better things That's the thing, you know, you can laugh at his quotes and do that But if you think about them for a few years, you might discover something just saying Uh, hurrah, you guys covered the tizmy funhouse podcast. I collapsed also. It was james willams who had the c Kcd argument also also alana is calisi Um, yeah, it was it was quite interesting like um, just seeing some of them quotes and they apparently really disappointed their audience with that one. So Interesting how that works I watched one rags video and the next day my recommended was filled with every massive on youtube. Does that mean youtube is homophobic? Um, i'm gonna say 115 percent yos And I guess i'll put that in rags' selection of questions as well Oh, he's got a lot of tizms for both him and wolf. Hello there, mola tfa part four was great. Oh wait, I did actually read Uh, can I get some more welsh representation? Am I not enough? I thought I was long and massive That is that not enough is it not Hello, mola. Love you work. It's fantastic. You've helped me become a better writer Any chance you could give my perion chronicles books a shout out I mean door Uh Perion P. E. R. I. O. N. Chronicles Apparently their books Check them out if you're interested Um, and I appreciate you saying that I've helped you become a better writer. That's uh, very kind Um, yes from malakai dun. I'm not sure if they're findable through the old google machine, but um Don't always give it a shot Hey mola you guys are fantastic Eh, have you seen just rise video on game of thrones seems to contradict his everything is good argument or everything is subjective, right? Also, I hope you can get critical drinker on It's potentially in the works and yeah, uh, all I've heard about just rights videos It seems he was inscribably hypocritical And it's like yeah, he kind of lost the credibility on the idea that he has Standards so it's kind of confusing to listen to and be like this bad and you're like, but how Oh That's a racial tizm That's a true So apparently metro exodus is available on the microsoft store Really? I thought it was just a timed exclusive with epic anyway, but I figure that it's a long time still to wait On microsoft store too.  What are you gonna do then? Hmm Data reminder kids marley equals is real. You got the okay sign. That's a racism Wake up. Eldia Not know these references I love wolf frodo and j. Sam What I love wolf Frodo and j. So oh wait, that's from the meme video. Yeah It was quite amusing that video. We had some top tier meme videos today. I hope everybody Enjoyed the coverage. I always quite feel bad if they're like ones that had extreme amounts of work done on them It's like should we We cover them. Is there more things to say? It's like So I hope you guys just realize we appreciate them to hell and back.  It's wonderful Uh j and wolf number one on the top 10 anime romances list Oh, yeah, I think it's all but confirmed that they're actually in a relationship now. I think that that's pretty obvious I think that if people memed about it, um wolf and j would just you know, eventually just say yeah, it's true So, you know matter of time. I'm sure When stupid internet memes are better than 98 percent of hollywood movies Oh my god, that was not that long ago that I read that out from the main chat. So It was when rags are still here. So we're getting there Praise be to the cosmic chicken Okay, I want to work with a group of people to make an efap movie unironically. I will do whatever it takes We'll wait for wolf to write the efap book And then we will um We will get you to adapt it into a full fledged movie Goliath is insane bloodthirsty. I couldn't control him not many people can but if fred the cosmic chicken can't Not a good sign. Let's just say that Uh the shadow of loaf knows 20 pounds to wolf to make an efap book It's roughly the price of a hardback here in the uk do it I uh can send that along Uh the message and I think you can just pay pal in that But um, I hope wolf makes it to be honest. It'll be uh It'll be fun You can read it on efap then He's gotta like make it an epic and be very serious. It'll be great Uh daily reminder that Guillermo del Toro is a fat weeb who tried to grape Mira so vino while making mimic um I don't I thought it was good. I can't remember what people think about Guillermo del Toro as a whole but I remember being good things Hollywood is full of soulless degenerate demons and should be nuked like the kaiju's in that film Well, if you have that much against everyone in Hollywood Uh, I didn't think he got enough credit. So shout out to rags that hilarious burn on jennifer lauren saying she sounded more like the an ex-wife Yeah in reference to x many said she's an ex-wife Very clever, actually I shall pass that one along as well Have you heard the observation that just looking at a picture of brilas and makes some men feel as though they are behind in the alimony payments I hadn't heard that But it's like you'd say that's believable right for tear Yeah, yeah Uh, the creators of ory clearly watched efap. Oh, yeah, definitely I think it's safe to assume everybody on the planet watches efap at this point like mainly everybody Um master chief dot exe fully operational uploading npc talking points Yeah, uh, I don't know what happened with the halo trailer. Um, but I mean wolf watched it so Probably should have asked more I was busy being confused tired and and and and all stressed At the idea that I had to make sure I get this done. We got 40 minutes left I'm pretty sure I'm getting close ish I think um, if you finish these you you could always watch the trailers The most interesting trailers anyway Oh, we did actually watch the the ory one and we watched the No, no, we didn't watch the jedi All in order one on stream watched it together though. Uh Yeah, I don't Really care about the other ones. I'll stop my head like a halo. I don't I don't I don't know nothing about that Um, I do know that wolf would probably care about it. So Shows cyberpunk is pretty cool You might get a record for the longest e-fap today I believe the longest e-fap is still 11 hours, right? Unless you mean longest singular e-fap, which that could happen That could happen. Excellent episode today. Glad you enjoyed my meme vid for your information Vast majority of wolf clips came from just the game of thrones rant and the e-fap after episode five keep doing what y'all do That's good work. Mr. DJ M voices. Thank you very much and uh, I'm cool We were all very happy with it. It was very amusing Mauler and wolf what your problems with the season four finale of game of thrones just finished it and it felt off Oh, I got a couple of problems Jojen reads death.  So his actions don't make any sense The dialogue between brian and the hound Is really dumb And it serves to only make them fight But specifically he's like Hey, is that lannister steel and her response is something like jamie lannister gave me this.  And then I go, I'm holding a gun. Yes So you're sitting there like, okay, okay, so you are Yeah, uh, there's a couple the things I didn't like about it.  Rah Great stream guys. Welcome back wolf. You need to invite internet historian onto e-fairblow I mean I'd be on board Is that internet historian is the one with the funny face dude for the cringy thing, right? Or is it somebody else? Um, I have no idea I can't remember. I'm pretty sure I've seen internet historian around We're okay with most guests pretty much here um Can we get godzilla versus king adora on e-fab movies lots of mean and rage potential especially from the dub Also thoughts on edf freefab gaming What's edf stand for what's here? Extra derestial fuckers Apparently it's a game edf elder elder rule farming electric dinosaur fences eldritch Dinosaur it's gotta be dinosaur. I know that much it's defense force apparently Oh, I saw metal plane that with alex actually um Yeah, it's quite possible quite possible Um Also king would we'll probably do the godzilla 98 movie and the 2019 movie the two we probably want to do on e-fab movies We've got a lot of movies free fat movies to watch Godzilla final wars goofy as hell great e-fab movies material There's even a japanese dude with dreadlocks only for a moment though Is it this is a dreadlocks man in in dark phoenix? He was very strange that his power was Gangly weird dreadlocks that attack people. I don't know. That was a weird one Um, can I get a shout out my animations get like 300 views a piece The cinny animations is a channel that does animations apparently Uh, if anyone in chat wants to check out some animations. I actually I think I recognize that name That's one of the people who did one of the memes This one. Oh, it was the one with the um guy who said He was a masterpiece three times in the window. I will post it in chat A link to that video and then subscribe to the channel or at least check out the other videos if you're interested Cine animations Uh, they've censored the hell out of super chats. I need a code word so curse words like ryan dorson I don't know what that would be a reference to mr cloud world poster Vector is a bland one wasted christoph waltz as part of the reason why I didn't want to see it because I was like Everyone kept saying they wasted christoph waltz and I was like, oh Well, I really like christoph waltz. So now I don't want to see it. That works You're not supposed to waste christoph waltz. That's the rules Uh, can you watch the cyberpunk trailer on stream? Uh, if if wolven rags were still here, I'd probably do it But like I'm not too bothered by it as a whole so it's probably not worth it I'll just sort of sit there watching it and I'll be like, well That was that And I shan't like to provide you guys no kind of interesting commentary But if you're really interested, we could probably do it at the beginning of the next e-fap. Maybe Casino royale is the best of the recent bonds But pretty much anything pre tomorrow never dies is better than the new ones in my subjective opinion I've not done a rewatch of james bond movies in a long time, but I liked golden eye gold finger A couple of other ones are my favorites And yeah, casino royale is a big favorite from a lot of people Jesus bolia still going. I've got 33 minutes to get the rest of these done. How many have I got? Oh my god I gotta get moving faster Capitalism ho mola.   Can you get like a tickle? He tickled a peen Apparently Bethesda said they're bringing in human NPCs into fallout 60 fallout 67. I'm guessing he means 60 26 And the crowd Applaused for it.   I knew it was funny. You didn't laugh very fast though.  Would you rather slide down a flagpole covered in razor blades or make love to an inside-out porcupine sincerely mr.  The point where they might even fall off Or make love to an inside-out porcupine. Yeah, I don't know Losing your hands or your peen ween What would you choose? Uh the one that hurts the least I'd probably have to lose the peen ween because hands are super useful I know the peen ween is super useful too, but Like No, that's tough Maybe if it's just in the future we can get a replacement peen ween Or hands either way I just watched the legal legal video.  Like perhaps channels that cover film criticism Like perhaps channels like cinema sins being covered. Does anyone know of anyone who ever did that? I reckon I know a guy not here though, so I'm sure I'm mixing someone up is probably not a thing Perion Chronicles is on kindle for ten dollars It is the story of general valka perion and his return to his empire hundreds of years after vanishing From malachi done. Uh, like I said findable On kindle for ten dollars. There you are folks Mola did a series covering h bomber guy. That's true. I'm all a guy to do that Did you see my doninator edit on twitter? Uh should have been right under the word of wolf street picture. I may have missed it If you want to send resend it i'll try and pop it into the next rotation Rags you need to chill with the thirst bro rags needs a thirst quencher Where do you think that he would have gone? Yes Not wearing costumes is normal in disney except for special events So children don't confuse guests for cast members that could get dangerous I was gonna say if this is something they do for most of their um things I wouldn't really be bothered But if it's something new that they're doing I would be like why is it taking you so long to implement this? Sounds like it would be a problem regularly, but What would I know a bit behind but just so you know in alabama stand your ground means you do you feel threatened on your property? So Um, yeah, I imagine alabama is more Uh, you're allowed to shoot more in general with things from my very limited understanding um But it's interesting how it changes between states The cocks of mawler's heart are quite warm indeed. Oh my goodness. That's definitely a recent thing that I said so again So go I still got like 20 minutes at least Hey guys, thanks for the wonderful stream help me at work today I'm also really glad to hear rags listens to doomcock keep up the great work and thanks He did come on the stream for efap number number seven Eight was the major lee won when we covered his video. So Yeah, um, I assume rags may have watched him from there or he's seen him and recommended either way doomcock is a wonderful creator A scary creator. Do you think there's a rose tico at a park? at the park The park which park? Also, yes, whichever park you're referring to Sorry, my brain is pretty melted right now. I was up since 4 a.m. And we're nearly at 2 a.m. So I'm coming full circle. Now you throw a milkshake. You're thrown out of the helicopter while flying naturally I mean, is that uh equal? Excessive force that probably seems like a bit much. I don't know throw out of a helicopter for throw a milkshake. I don't know. I don't know I don't know man Got it. You got to be fair and then again the lawyer will defend you in any case. So you'll be fine Yes, mola. I am indeed an egyptian god now Could you west toys cut out the bs and stop acting like the rulers of my lands were black when the sahara separated us from them for ages when we made pyramids and They made huts I mean, hey Huts are pretty good.  Yeah, sure enough. We're almost dead, but I might be able to make it Yall's content made me a better writer after watching you rip on bad writing ended a briefing can keep plot points of the novel I wrote it's much better now. I'll add you if I haven't published it. Well Again, we really really like to hear that sort of thing. So thank you, uh, dan, and I hope that it really has helped That uh, you find success Uh, hey rags carcino or leonfield rifle I will copy And Oh my god guys, it's lejon wick in leziba bunk I need to order the collectors edition with a lifetime supply of soil and I mean, yeah, it does seem like a selling point But you know, it could be really good and who doesn't love keanu reeves at this point He's probably one of the most beloved celebrities there are Didn't mean to promote twice in one episode. It's all right mark. No problemo Female angers is breathtaking He's been killing people He's breathtaking. He's been literally strangling people.  I mean, I hope people have been entertained by this How long have I been doing? Oh my goodness. This has been like Fucking three hours of super chests Longer than most podcasts Uh, the unbridled rage should be reduced to a book Reduced to a book.  Um, I can't buy a foretear with money I can only get one through like putting m&m's on a fishing rod and leading him into my house Yeah, that's actually how we first uh got in touch with each other. Yeah, I don't lie I do not Length is underrated when compared to depth therefore I shall donate to artificially lengthen this stream. Whoa We're getting getting close now I think Many how many that's your opinion? I'm not really countable in an easy way We're definitely getting there In a way Uh, why is foretear excited for spider-man doesn't he know spider-man's coming out? What do you I get it? What do you have to say? Uh, I Get it. That's that's what what I thought That is what I am the last super chat at the time of me sending this that was true That was true reaction to cyberpunk 2077 trailer. I mean not on this stream, but possibly in the future Um mauler I went out drinking at 7 p.m. BST and now I'm home and you're still going that's cool, bro Um, yeah, we've it's it's seven and a half hours stream. I watched lord of the rings Retina the king today.  It's bad for you But it's ultimately good for you because um I've have you heard about this if you like if you watch a screen for hours on end without any breaks It'll improve your eyesight and intelligence By 10 I heard it turns your uh face square My parents actually used to tell me that when I was a kid.  Yeah, mine actually did the same Uh try bringing Thor Skywalker on e-fap soon Please I have heard of his channel. We're not against that. We'll uh, maybe look into that too A4 tier is it considered necrophilia if your partner is alive when you start? Uh If you divide the The constant by six then yes, I believe it is. Yeah, you carry the one Sorry, did you carry the one? Um No, I think that's is nullified By I'm pretty sure it's binary the second that they're dead it counts as that everyone knows this Is what you just said was some kind of math thing that no one believes in Your crazy religion. Look at that. You even freaked out chat. You know how long it takes to do that It's very resilient to these sorts of things Finally out of p is a song only sorry chat I don't think it was you. I think it was the super chat Miss a molar are there any movies you consider objectively good, but dislike They there are I've forgotten what they are because I've answered this question before a while ago. Um Is an inception one of them Uh Or is it the missed opportunity of oh, hey, I mean, I guess I could count done kick I think that's a good film, but I don't really care about then again. I would criticize its characters. I don't know That's complicated That's complicated I'd have to really have a good look around because the problem is I tend to forget movies that don't interest or or Mulate me as as most people would probably feel Um, the ones I love and hate often stay in memory for much longer Um, yes, hopefully that question is answered over the coming e-faps as we discover and talk about more movies and stuff I um Oh, yeah chip chiply. Did the did the emotes end up working for you? Don't know. I didn't check if they uh, if they had We need a skull on wheels emote Um, I could probably sort that out. Actually, I will make a note I don't know how well it would work though Because it would be so small, but we'll look into it. See what happens Oh, you can put them in super chats as well. That's neat um our wrist fangs in 391 bc don't give women control.   How could you say such things? A jury would never take that seriously Hello, Mao's china department. Well, like I said There are juries the word I guess This channel is satire Uh, do not Mossad do not shower us. We actually like the last Jedi.  Oh, I understand Um, I meant what state the sea. Oh, yeah, I read that out Portia, why has god blessed me with three nipples?  When did you join? 20 minutes ago Hi We've actually got literally like 10 minutes left before we're capped out on the stream and I've only got a couple left I can do this. Yeah, uh Hey, just saw you started six hours ago. Nice job kisses. It's actually seven hours and 40 minutes according to ob s Yes suggestions critical thinker drunk 3po both good content creators and good dudes Also, have you ever had any desire to get back into animation like the game rooms potential? I always liked animation, but um I was never good enough for it From my perspective for how much time I was trying to spend into it and I was just like It's it's something I find really fun and charming, but I don't think I have the time But I I would like to get good at it and then create animations animations are cool And yes critical drinker and uh, I don't I don't think I know drunk 3po is but again, both of them would probably be uh Good guests from from what I understand Um, I'm doing this to put the stream to the eight hour mark How dare you artistic? Uh, hi rag from blue j hi Mola, please make a series ripping into neo. It's making me hate gaming itself Uh, I didn't really care about neo that much I'm not really the guy To uh to do it, you know elden ring release when Miyazaki make more games. Damn it Give him time. Oh god Bethesda presser is on and it's puritism right now Want us to think they're all about the fans.  Hello sexism and transphobia pill department. I assumed that was in the rules I just I assumed that's my bad Didn't think you'd let me do a finger alone.  It's not about the money It's about sending a message or a massage Both would work Oh, he corrected it to message And then another one that says hi rags Hi And then another one that says hi rags He didn't say hi back. I'm sorry. Eric. Yes, I did. No, I said I said there was two of them Oh, there were oh Who was the second? Uh, the first was ryan the second was eric Ryan and eric Are they brothers? Uh, definitely All right, then quarry. Thank you for the new membership Why thank you quarry. Oh, I don't want to have to pronounce that surname Me neither. That's why I just said quarry You guys still going can't wait to watch later. Yeah, nearly finished rags.  Another fun game I'm glad you're really liking it. I dig it too. I think it's a great game Wish you guys had streamed with boogie such a shame I mean, maybe one day he'll guest on eFap. Who knows? It's funny. Maybe It's funny. I liked mohler, but as I watched eFap, I've come to love rags. Enjoy listening to you lol. Oh, wow See his his curiosity has bloomed into amorous love and admiration. He came for the mohler, but stayed for the rags Story the story of life itself um Then you got hello rago from taylor No response to that. No mind Rago Hey to rago Yeah, perhaps he's referring to ragu, which is a kind of like a like a sauce And I can tell you all about the sauce if you need me to I think I think good. Yeah It goes good on the tortellini. I got killing floor two so I can shoot you in the back later Oh, that's wonderful. Beowyn. That's wonderful. You can you can actually make the art a reality Wait, there's no friendly fire and killing floor. Is there a little too? No Maybe not you can't stream with him mohler. It's too late. I am pretty sure boogie Would you know be able to do a different day if he wanted to? um And yeah, and then I've got there's a selection of things for you rags that I've got in this notepad We've only got like 10 minutes. This maybe I can get through them quickly with you The first one is hi rags Hi, I think a lot of people like saying that to you. I'm starting to notice this as a patent now um Oh, well Give the people what they want Um, the next one was oh rags them. You beautiful doggo. I love you so Oh, really? Well, we haven't met yet But I'm sure that our um, I'm sure that your love will turn into well Love is a two-way street Uh recommendation for for all three of us. Uh, it was love death and robots Love death and robot I think it has popped up on on the street uh on the show before but Uh rags your new intro added several years to my lifespan Oh, were they human years or dog years? Yeah, I guess it would be better if it was human years, but no either way I imagine it probably was it's that high quality Rags is is clearly consoles beat pc because I have to serve my corporate overlord That was the super chair. Not the worst reason I've seen yeah Help rags.  So what do you have you got any? We're like music's a big thing in it. Yeah all visuals Well music specific, I mean I like the fantasia stuff I thought um Man, well visuals is oh, there's a lot for visuals music's a lot harder Because it's way easier nowadays to you dazzle people with the spectacle I mean look at look at the Godzilla movie, you know, it looked great movie was crap otherwise How dare you? um So, yeah, is there any movie that comes to mind other than the examples or That you um, I guess called zilla counts then the imaginarium of dr. Parnassus was really visually interesting Um, we watched eternal sunshine of a spotless mind that had some nifty stuff going for it. It's simple But it was played really really well, and I liked it a lot Um, I've always liked the blade runner kind of visuals and sound I think sound was always a big part of blade runner made it really great But I'm sure there's more.  I I believe so I think so I think if they can't I think they'll pass the license out to me They're basically giving me Giving me that kind of power.  I'd recommend five Let me see few new pc civilization might be something you want if you're Well, well, it's not that no if you're new to pc that's it's like ui and controls and stuff But civilization is really good because It really helps to introduce you to the mouse and keyboard Click things learn shortcuts kind of uh kind of gameplay because there's a lot of stuff going on It's not fast paced though So you don't it's not like you have to learn this stuff on the fly or anything You can take all the time that you need, but it really utilizes a lot of you know pc gaming's You know It's strengths it really takes advantage of its ui So I'd recommend that uh uh games like I would I would say try a game that you played on console before But play it on pc and see the difference that'll really help because it'll be a familiar kind of experience But you know just the hardware and peripherals will just be the only different thing So that'll that'll probably help you settle into a new system really well Um Rags is it a coincidence that the whitest male of apex legends characters uses gas? It must be a coincidence. I don't know what that would be a reference to I doubt it's that serious, but yes I already know this from wolf as he tends to talk about subject more often, but what would be rags's favorite books Rags My favorite books Um, I really like the lord of the rings the alchemist um I really did like atlas shrug Um, I have liked let me see the first couple harry potter books I really liked but I was a really young when I read them. So that might have colored the whole thing Um, let me see Favorite books it's been a while There's been a lot of short stories that I've read and really liked. I'm a big fan of the fan the foundation trilogy hammer of god um There's been a fair number of stuff, but I've read a lot of short stories science fiction has played a huge role in You know a lot of my reading lists from earlier But I that's oh the stand. I love the stand. I thought that was really good Uh I watched one of rags one fish two fish red fish blue fish is a classic And I'd recommend everybody. Oh, oh, of course my favorite book of all time was count of money crystal Can't believe I forgot that that's my favorite book ever is the count of money crystal Love it. Love the kill blue fish blow one fish two fish blow fish blue fish is the thing that I know Because that's a simpsons episode name Just reminded me of it. I was like, oh that's probably where that comes from then Um I watched one of rags's videos and the next day my recommended was filled with every massive on youtube. Does that mean youtube is homophobic? Every map really like who I would be curious to know who exactly Because I don't like tag my stuff lgbt or anything like that Yeah, I'll be who knows what they mean by massive that could mean me and wolf I don't know like everyone's a massive on this show uh I didn't think he got enough credit so shout out to rags for that hilarious boon on jennifer laurence saying she sounded more like an x wife Remember saying that it was a pretty good joke. I do. I read it from the chat. I can't take credit for that No, no, no, no, I I read it from the comments the comments on the video It was that one of the comments on the video. Yeah, that wasn't me I didn't want that to come across like and the last Super chat that was related to you. Hey rags I don't know if it's pronounced correctly kasano or leon field rifle I don't know. I I haven't used either All right. Oh carcano. Oh I don't know. I haven't used either of them. So I can I can't say can't say um And just to catch the last few uh 10 minute part two of this stream here we come. No, I've still got Four minutes nearly made it molly. You don't get it. He's not with us anymore I'm not sure who you're referring to rags talks about dicks more incessantly than a whore-ish girl with daddy issues Um, well, I'm neither a whorey girl nor do I have daddy issues And the second question would be is that a problem? I I just don't think so, you know It's it's it's it's beautiful. I'm sorry.  What is life? Who knows and with that Um, I said wait, did you guys just now finish the super chats? Yes Geez man.  I know Fucking ages But uh, the funny thing is we're about to hit the cap on uh the streaming thing It's like I did check it recently. Apparently it is still at eight hours. Someone in there said it was um 12 hours it was extended to but I'm pretty sure it's still late either way We finally did it. That is the end of season three of efap. Okay. That's what this was I guess Um, sorry for the people We'll have to wait like 10 years for this to process to finally be able to see the beginning of it If you want to see this before I end up putting it up on moola check the description for the discord link And then it'll in the announcement section You'll be able to get a link to the unlisted version or just hang on to the url You have right now and just refresh it in about two hours. It should be processed. I think It's typically how long it takes Um, yeah, it takes a while 360p club. I thank you all so very much for watching I hope you enjoyed. Thank you very much for all of the effort in all of the efap memes and videos Sorry, it took so long to get to them But I think it was a lot of fun viewing them all in one big go Lots of Lord of the Rings memes and it was surprisingly suitable because we literally got done watching it today. Um It was nice and uh And thank you very much for the donations extremely kind and extensive to say the least I shall Say good show lads. Thank you for As long as you did efap will return Next week. I imagine I think that's the plan either way.  I'll be gone until the sunday after that. Mm-hmm. So, um, I will be AFK for that time That is all right. We shall they'll sort something out Mm-hmm But yes, and no problem, baowen. We love your memes take as long as you need. Yes um But yeah, good night all thank you eric for the super chat of weight Um, and just as we are entering into the last like three minutes of before this gets cut I'm going to end the stream now.


community members want to run and be able to run for leadership in town, for town meeting and for other positions. But I'm not sure that I trust that's going to happen. And I certainly not without a lot of support and help and outreach from the town. This is not a magic, this is, I just don't see it as happening as magically as it's being presented. I wish it could. And I certainly support those goals but I think that we historically have done a good job of saying the right things and then not necessarily doing the work that's necessary to make them happen. There's a lot of work that needs to be done to really engage a diversity of voices in town. And I hope that in your consideration here I'm not sure that there's much difference between the two maps where that's concerned. So I think I would support the limited change map but that doesn't mean I'm not supporting diversity in our representation of our town. And I hope that we can follow through after this is all over and do the work to really engage more diversity in town government. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Culverhouse. Right, and I promoted Joanne Preston and that will be the last speaker. Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can Ms. Preston. Thank you. Joanne Preston Mystic Lake Drive town meeting member precinct nine and a member of the webcam at neighborhood. I have two points I'd like to make a brief in support of the limited change map. But first I'd just like to say I've spent my entire adult life working for social change. There's nothing that frightens me about it or makes me afraid. I want social change. It's the very reason I ran for the Arlington Housing Authority Board. So I think we should put that to rest. I think that's a very unfair criticism of people who support the limited change map. Now, I'd like to talk first about, I'm glad you've had these very sophisticated and deep conversations in town hall about increasing diversity in town government. I would like to suggest you would learn just as much by going to monotony manner where people are out working in their community gardens on their watering the trees and you will find what are the realities of that. Changing precinct lines will not lead to inclusion of diverse populations in town meeting. That's all too facile and feel good frankly the way of thinking about it. For the people in monotony manner who've been, I would say fairly ignored in this, the step from them getting involved in town government is enormous. First of all, they have to become voters. Many of them are not citizens because they cannot afford the lawyers that they need to get them citizenship. Those that are have to be registered to vote. They need, they offer transportation, childcare. You need to go and talk to them about what the issues are.  And if they do, the one person I talked to about it in depth was very surprised that that would lead to their civic engagement. Most of the diversity in Arlington is found in the housing authority. I think if you look even in your 2019 demographic data that you use to do these plans, that's the truth. And those are the people, if you're interested in diversity in town government that you need to engage. Moving around the precinct lines will not change that. In fact, your earlier recommended plan of 16 precincts would have diluted their voice because it would have added many white neighborhoods to monotony manner. So- Excuse me, Ms. Preston, you're just over three minutes. So if you can wrap it up, please. Yes, I want to talk about the webcow at neighborhood. All right, I'll just be there. We received your correspondence. It does not follow easily into precinct five. It defies the state regulations by putting it on the other side of Medford Street. The cemetery is actually what brings people together because it's a wildlife place. It does not separate people. The recommended plan would make precinct nine being three school districts, parts of it. So there's no- Excuse me, Ms. Preston, I'm going to have to cut you off that you're getting up to four minutes, but again, we did receive your correspondence and we appreciate your comments. I gave you all my arguments about webcow at and ignored. Not that they were ignored, they were considered, but we make our own decisions and we take the input and then it's up to us to process that and come to the best conclusion. Thank you for joining us tonight. That is going to conclude the public comment piece and I will turn it back to the board and I will return to Mr. Helmuth. Thank you. Thank you to all who come in tonight and again, to those who wrote to us and called us, it was all really beneficial. I've given this a lot of thought and Mr. Chair, I want to make a motion that this is like what accept the recommended map put forth by the precincting working group and I want to talk help briefly about why because I think that the residents who've contacted us deserve to know our thinking. I think everyone agrees that these are not large changes. They're incremental, but I believe that they are the only practical chance we have to do incremental changes that could lead to better representation in town meeting more fair representation for the next 10 years. I think a point that's been lost in a lot of this debate is that our experts and I really do believe that this is the team we would want. People with advanced degrees and expertise in urban planning, diversity and community engagement and GIS and a town clerk who knows the town backward and forward that they believe as they've told me in my conversations that over the next 10 years, the demographic trends will make the map, the recommended map even more clearly favorable towards people who are less represented. And it is our responsibility to not make a map for today but make a map for the best we can project where the town is going. And I think it's very persuasive that the Mass Ave area that these changes are built around are more likely to have people who are more racially diverse, economically diverse and have a lot more in common with each other than they do people that get further away from Mass Ave in either direction. And this matters because how many makes decisions that affect all residents. I think both sides also agree that the recommended map is not going to instantly solve the problem. I would argue that doesn't mean we can't do both. I think there's a little bit of a false choice here that just because it's not perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. I think it's very clear and I appreciate some of the comments from people who have been working on diversity in town and our diversity director that we have a lot of work to do to make people feel like they are welcome, that they'd be long. And that work needs to be done no matter how we vote tonight. What I would like to do is because I do believe the recommended map makes it easier. It adds something that I want to do all that work and I want to do something that makes it easier to have representation in town, meaning that better reflects the diversity of people who live here. I don't think that we should make change for change's sake. A lot of folks wrote and said that and they're absolutely right. I know that it's difficult looking at the data to understand because all the constraints that the chair and others have explained. None of these precinct maps look perfect by all the demographic criteria but I am convinced that they do achieve the principal goal of reasonably grouping together people in a better way who are much more likely to have more in common. And I think they deserve a better chance to have a voice in town meeting. That means we have to work hard. We have to work hard no matter what vote we take but I'd like to work hard with that assistance. I think that's the right thing for us to do if we are serious about looking at, living up to our motto that we adopted that we look through things with a lens of diversity and equity. There are some things that I think that this map doesn't do. I don't think it targets specific town meeting members. I've made a point to not look where people live, where town meeting members live. I think that there's maybe some misunderstanding that talking about trying to make space is the same as trying to target people for removal. And I think for me, it's creating an opportunity over time for more people who have more in common in some of these areas of town to have more people similar to them in town meeting. And for me, that's the end of the story. I think that's what it's about. We are used to the status quo, and it seems normal to a lot of us that town meeting members are gonna be homeowners living single family homes who are older who are more established. And it's very easy to feel like that's just how it works. But that's just how it works is how the status quo is perpetuated. And I think that if we don't try, we know one thing that nothing will change structurally that that will try to change the status quo. I said in my early remarks that all that's fine but it really depends on whether you believe that the recommended map will do something good and it's worth the cost. I think that it does. I think it's pretty clear that it creates more precincts where there are less dominated by single family homes. And by the way, I don't believe that this will necessarily lead to any specific outcome in the legislature. I don't have a view on that. I think the voters and town meeting members decide that. It is purely for me a matter that whatever these folks have in common, I wanna make it easier for them to have more people who are like their neighborhood to be in town meeting. And that's for me where it stops far short of any sort of legislative or political agenda. The maps aren't perfect. It's hard to do this with 21 precincts, hard to do it with all the constraints we had. I've spent a few hours with the team looking at data even that's not on the maps. I'm personally persuaded that they are meaningful, that they do make sense. They are not perfect, they have problems. But I would just not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. So I think I'll stop there and hear from the rest of my colleagues, but I'm pleased to put the motion on the table and I look forward to hearing what my colleagues say. Thank you, Mr. Helmuth. And I'm gonna go in the same order that I went in in the first round. So I will turn to Mrs. Mahan. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to second Mr. Helmuth's motion. I will tell you, sat in this meeting tonight. I had no idea which side of the issue I was going to come down on. And I don't wanna in any way duplicate Mr. Helmuth's remarks except to say, I agree with them. And listening to the public speakers to me was a very learning experience for myself. But I think what we've been doing for the past 20, 30 years hasn't worked. I think we should try something different. Maybe that will be the sort of demonstration to these communities that we're trying to reach that the town, its town leaders, its community leaders are really committed to this sort of recognizing upfront it may not produce any substantive change in the next year, three year, five year. But I think if we keep putting, and I don't mean to minimize the represicting working groups efforts. But I think if we keep taking little steps and little building blocks upon which we can build, I think that's the best chance for, like I said, myself coming from that world. Some of it, I thought about it was definitely self-imposed. Maybe that's sort of a security kickback that you have to the environment that you're in. But just thinking about it, perhaps if we can put something in place that the next time we go through this in 10 years, this will be the building block. And I really feel that the working group is committed to this, especially I think Ms. LaNima is now our assistant planning director and is wearing 10,000 different hats. And our town clerk certainly has continued to put in a tremendous amount of work on the previous question and now the two different maps. And I think one of the things that really helps and I mean no disrespect is having our diversity, equity, inclusion director, a woman of color. Because I know I've gone down there and I've said, I came from here, but I am now a homeowner, which I wasn't before. And I may not be as approachable as I think I am. And certainly do not have the tools and the education in that field to speak, not just in a monotony manner, but to look at other places, whether it's apartment buildings or outlying districts on Mass Ave and the like. And I really, not to add to Ms. Harvey's plate platter, Thanksgiving, big, whatever. I have a lot of faith in that. And if we can just get even one person that is a person of color or socioeconomic, repressed, anything like that, to me it's a win. And I certainly think that this group of individuals can and will achieve that and go far beyond that. But I know it sounds like I'm being a cliche thing, but to me even getting one person that learns about the process this way through the town and isn't asked that we're just saying we want you to run. We're not telling you why to run. We're not telling you how you should vote, how you should not vote. To me, that's the purest way. And I think it's something this town should be doing. So I'm happy to second Mr. Helmets' motion. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mrs. Mahan. Mr. Diggins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First one, quick question to the clerk through you. And that is, Ms. Brazil, what would you tell the clerk in 2031? And what advice would you give that person? To plan ahead by several years. I mean, I think we learned through this process that there's a lot of moving pieces. And I think the very real impact on reducing the number of precincts from 21 to 16 on the finance committee did make that a really hard conversation for the board. And I do understand that. So, you know, planning ahead and having that conversation about rewriting the rules that govern the town manager act that regoverns the finance committee so that that's a smoother transition whenever Arlington is ready to consider. I'm sure in 10 years after we've all gotten very used to whatever changes in election law, then maybe reducing the number of precincts at that time will make more sense to people. So that's, I'm definitely leaving a time capsule in my office for a future clerk. Great, thanks. Yes, Nina. It's a matter of how early we start, because one thing I was thinking is that we should start asking people who are running for select board in 20, 28, 29 and 30 or maybe it's 29, 30 and 31, being what their positions are on various things that we are thinking about with respect to re-precincting.  And I'm gonna go fast because I don't wanna take much time being there loosely organized, but I just really wanna give people a sense of how I think means so that I am probably predictable to you all as we make more decisions. So first off, I appreciate all the feedback that I got from everyone. I do read it. There's just not enough time for me to respond. So I'm sorry that I don't respond to me, but I do read. Second is that I take a position and let's say it sort of hypothesis me, but I always entertain the arguments for and against it. And that's how I read my emails in and listen to what people have to say. But I am the sort of person that is predisposed me to try new things and to encourage people to develop bold ideas. I don't count the number of emails that I get being on a given topic, being when it is my decision to make or this board decision to make, being it's not a referendum, being and so if I get a hundred emails supporting a position that isn't gonna sway me. It's really the argument, being in the quality of the argument and how it weighs against the hypothesis that I have in mind. So because I don't think that re-presenting is the sort of thing that we should put up to a vote or let me rephrase that. It's that sort of thing that I would put up to a popular vote. I mean, it is the sort of thing that you should vote on or think about when you're voting for a member of the select board or the clerk. And so that's how it fits in with the question that I asked the clerk earlier. When do we start? What will we do in the future? I mean, as I said in my response to her, it's like, think about this when you're thinking about who's gonna be on select board in 20, 29, 30 and 31. Cause that is the time for the public to weigh in on decisions. So start asking people then, like what would you support in terms of re-presenting? Now, getting to re-presenting itself, there's a way to do this that is completely devoid of any social considerations. And one way would be to say we're going to set our polling stations at certain locations, maybe equal distance from each other or equally distant from each other. And then draw the precincts me so that the distance to the polls were minimum. And so that would give you a completely agnostic a precinct map. But to the extent that we're going to impose or consider any social values, it could be loosely defined as gerrymandering. And so the question is, what are we trying to achieve? And to the extent that it's a zero sum game, and some people will gain advantage, some people will lose, that's for me, it's a zero sum game in the micro scale. In the macro scale, what we're really trying to do is develop a society, a governing structure, me that is more resilient and that resilience I think comes from being more diverse and inclusive. And it may very well be that this will turn out not to be a good idea, but I think it's important that we try things, and then assess them and make our decisions about how to move forward based on how, on the outcome of this, what's really difficult in the situation is that it's hard to do a really good analysis because the N as in the number of precincts that we have to look at are really pretty small. And perhaps even the amount of time that we're going to be looking at things isn't enough time for us to really make, come to a firm conclusion. But I think we're aiming for the right thing. And our goals, we're aiming for the right goals, Mead. And I just want to encourage us and support us, Mead, in trying to achieve those goals. Because I think if we don't do anything, we really get into the habit of not doing anything. And that is not ever a recipe for change. So just a few other tidbit thoughts, Mead. I think the distribution within precincts outweigh neighborhoods. And perhaps for me, I think maybe the next time I wouldn't really focus on the notion of a neighborhood because I could imagine a situation where you could have a really cohesive neighborhood, Mead. But the constitution of it is such that you really need to draw the line through it in order to get the diversity that you want or whatever composition in that precinct that you want in order to achieve a goal. And I'm fine with that because I think the neighborhood, Mead, will stay together. And in regards to the precinct line that is going through it, which is why I don't have a concern about me running the precinct line for eight and 10, Mead down Gray Street. Because to the extent that you have a neighborhood based on people going up and down the street, really to the school districts, those neighborhoods are going to stay together. And it may be advantageous to them to be part of different precincts and have more people representing them and their concerns. And to the extent that a precinct does become equivalent to a neighborhood, Mead, then we will have to get people thinking about the notion that something's gonna change, Mead, in 10 years. I mean, it's very unlikely that we will get 10 years from now and I have at least two precincts Mead that change, Mead. And I have to say that I really, I appreciate the notion of having everyone run at some point in time. And that was one of the reasons that I liked the 16 precincts Mead. And for me, the challenge was gonna be how do we get it such that people have to run every 10 years because I was not gonna run for a town meeting member against four other incumbents and it wasn't because I was afraid to run against incumbents. I just felt like, who am I to challenge people who have been there and wanna do it again? But if it was all 12 of us or 12 going for it, then I just felt more comfortable with that notion and I can appreciate the kind of logic inconsistency in that, but nonetheless, Mead, that's how I felt. And so I would like for us to have some mechanism by which that can be kind of programmed in. And so that's why the 16 precincts appeal to me and that's why when this came up, I know that one of the conversations was that he will just open this up Mead and perhaps opening it up will make people much more engaged in the process. I don't know, but I thought it was a good goal and that's one of the reasons I supported it. And I will just throw in a little mention to Gordon Jameson and why I like Mead, what we're doing with focusing on Mass Ave because Mead, one of his ideas was 14 precincts Mead and we would cross over Mass Ave, pretty much going all the way down Mass Ave. And I think that would hopefully make more people who are focused on Mass Ave and who utilize Mass Ave in a way that's different from people who live further from Mass Ave have their interests better represented regardless of their ethnic group. And so in closing, I will just say, let's keep the debate going. And if representing is what gets people animated and wanna think about town meeting more than by all means, let's keep the debate going. There's this civic engagement group. We're always happy to talk about anything you wanna talk about. So this does not have to be a discussion and I welcome more of it, but you know how I'm going. So that's it, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Diggins, Mr. Herd. Thank you. So I think I spoke before where I stand on this and my reasons for doing so, but just to reiterate that we had a working group that was tasked with both the just practical matter of making our precincts conform with the law and the regulations and with the goal of increasing versatility inclusion. And I trust the work of the very qualified and competent professionals that we had doing that, that this recommended map is the map that best exemplifies those goals in compliance with the laws and the restrictions that they had. So I will support the motion. Again, change is hard. And I think in the short term, some people are gonna have to rerun for town meeting, might lose their spots and that's unfortunate. I would never wanna take participation away from anybody that wants to participate. But I mean, if somebody's losing their spot, that means that somebody else is jumping into the process. And we always welcome whether you're a town meeting member or not, we always welcome input at certainly our meetings and we have many town boards and openings for people to participate. If someone does lose a spot and still wants to participate in the discussion, we welcome that. So again, I will support the motion. We've heard a lot about neighborhoods as both a goal of the working group and the argument against the recommended group. And I would just note that I think very few people in town other than members of town meeting identify their neighborhoods as their precincts. You certainly don't have to stop being friends with people if they end up being in a precinct across the street from you. It wasn't until this process that I even realized that my neighbors right across the street from me are in precinct 16, who knew? I always thought we were all in the same precinct, but it turns out 50 feet from me is somebody that's in a different precinct. I still talk to them. So I think, again, and I don't mean to make overly light of the subject, but again, we have a product here that is really advancing a goal that we've established and we have to make sure as town and town leaders that we're not just saying these are our goals. We're supporting progress towards these goals. So I will support the motion. And I just want to thank everybody that's been involved in the process, the working group, town staff, and all the members of the public that reached out to us and participate in the forums. We can't make the decisions without hearing from both sides of the coin. And we certainly have listened to all the comments that we've gotten. And I think seems to be coming to a consensus, but so I'm happy to support the motion. Thank you, Mr. Hurd. Yeah, and I also, I'm going to raise a couple of the concerns I had, but overall, I support the recommended map. I had said I went through a detailed precinct by precinct Q&A the last meeting I had with members of the working group. I did raise a question to Ms. Brazil about that area up in Hutchinson. I would take it from the presentation tonight that you looked at it and determined that by changing that it may have compromised another objective that you had in the precinct. So I just want to confirm that in terms of would that make a difference? In your view, could it improve anything by including that uppermost area of Hutchinson and Wemmill in precinct 13 or does the tradeoff not worth it? No, we could, Mr. Korowski was able to move that block into 13 and move a couple nearby blocks from 13 and to 11 to keep the population numbers balanced. It doesn't appear to have any other unanticipated impacts on finance committee. So I'm happy to show the board that map. The presentation didn't focus on maps tonight. So I apologize for the miscommunication. Mr. Korowski. No problem and it's late in the night and everything but that was a concern I had just about that finger that we talked about because the country club is there and that neighborhood seems to be on its own. Did you reach a conclusion? I mean, I know you did the exercise but you have a thought of which one is better. I don't think I have a strong opinion. The working group did not have time to talk about it at length but it doesn't create any issues that take away from the recommended map and the goals and gains. Okay, all right. So why don't we do this? I mean, we've got to come back and for members, if you were looking at their clock, it's 10.50. We're going to get out up here by 11 but we have to come back and vote this a week from now. I'm going to post a meeting for next Monday, Ms. Brazility. You have to come back and vote again after you've picked a map. The state has to know the map we want so that they can generate the appropriate paperwork to take the final formal vote. Okay, and the final formal vote is to the LEDRC by, it's actually Saturday, December 4th because it's a Saturday, it'd be Monday but I know you want to get things done by Friday. Okay, all right. I don't want to hold that up for further discussion. What I would do for that one change, I want to just circulate it if we think that it's better. We'll move reconsideration after the fact but I do want to say of all of you- Do you want to look at it right now? It's up to you. Well, I'm just, no, I don't think I do because I think it's 10 of 11. I don't think the other members really want to look at it right now but might consider it if it's a better change after the fact. I do want to say I still remain concerned about Precinct 8 and 10 and I'm not supporting the limited map there. I think time has run out on us here I think but I think there may have been a way to reconsider things there a little bit in terms of the school districts and in terms of what we're doing on the backside of Precinct 8 and I really think Precinct 8 and 10 is different than 12 and 14. 12 and 14 run along Gray Street but because when they were first created the Cutter School was in Precinct 14. The Brackett School is in Precinct 12. There are different considerations for Precinct 8 and 10 and I think there may have been a way here to take a look at it. I understand the goals but I honestly believe that Gray Street while it's a good dividing line for 12 and 14 it's not the best dividing line for 8 and 10 with all the considerations but one thing that was very important to me and being on the board is that we develop consensus. There clearly is a consensus here. I may have discussions with you between now and next week in terms of what would it look like and how would this balance the objectives and the reason I bring it up I'm not ready to do that now because I don't have the answer but we do this once every 10 years if it is a change that we discover even if it's at the last minute that still achieves objectives and might improve things. I think it's worth doing it but I think given where the other members out this evening, given where I feel in general about the work that you did with the other precincts and the trade-offs that you had to make and the fact that I support those I am gonna go along with the other members of the board and thank you for the work but I do still wanna have that discussion and if something comes out of it, we'll address it but I think that's without having something specific and without seeing how this affects some of the other objectives that you had I'm not prepared to say that I'm against this so I will support this along with the other members and look forward to continued discussion before the deadline so the vote you're looking for tonight is the vote on the map and then we will have the final vote on November 29th if necessary, we'll go over to December 1 I don't think it will be necessary though so on a motion by Mr. Helmuth that was seconded by Mrs. Mahan for the recommended map, Attorney Heim Mr. Hurd? Yes. Mr. Diggins? Yes. Mr. Helmuth? Yes. Mrs. Mahan? Yes. Mr. Dacorsi? Yes. Mr. Diggins, vote. Okay, thank you for all your work. Thank you very much for your attention very thoughtful debate tonight, thank you. So, 1054 right on schedule in the next item is correspondence received we have two items and just bear with me a second. Okay, item 10 is a letter from Bethelach Executive Director of the Ewington Chamber of Commerce beautification of business districts in town item 11 is traffic concerns on recently changed Appleton Street here Flamencus, 6th Appleton Place Mr. Hurd? Sorry about that. Move receipt and I just would say that we did discuss at the parking advisory committee which sometimes sounds a little bit narrow and it's charged but it deals with a lot of honest center stuff we just discussed with representative of the chamber some of the contents that are in Ms. Locke's letter there. So town staff is working with the chamber to address some of the concerns with DBW so that's in the works. Okay, thank you Mr. Hurd. Mr. Diggins? I'll second that and I'll second the receipt of them and I'm thinking that the letter on Appleton what are we doing with that? Because my recommendation would be to get that to tack and get tacked to take that up meet like right away unless the town manager has some other thoughts about that. I think with a slight change I would suggest sending it to the design review committee. Oh, okay. But still have it taken up right away because I think it's a, I think it needs attention quickly. Do you have a different assessment? Do you have a different assessment of that, Mr. Chair? I mean, I'm Mr. Vanity. I don't know. No, I think Mr. Chapter only said the design review committee. Yeah, no. And I mean, I agree that I don't know what this solution is but I do think taking a quick look at it makes very good sense. All right, thank you. Great, thank you, Mr. Diggins. Mr. Helman. Yeah, happy to support that. So do we need to ask Mr. Hurd if that's a friendly amendment to the motion? Yeah, I thought I saw him nodding his head when Mr. Diggins said that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no comments. Okay. I always refer traffic matters to Mr. Chapter Lane to send them to the appropriate place, but that's fine. Okay, Mrs. Mahan. No comments, thank you. Thank you. And I have no comments either. On a motion by Mr. Hurd, seconded by Mr. Diggins, Attorney Hyde. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helman. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Yes. It's a unanimous vote. Okay, new business, Attorney Hyde. No new business. Mr. Chapter Lane. No new business. Okay, Mr. Helman. No new business. Okay, Mr. Diggins. When are we, have we determined time for the meeting next week? I was thinking 7.15. Could we, can we do seven? Hey, you know, cause I have a meeting at 7.45. Yeah, I just, I know at least one of the members has an issue at 7. Okay. And so we've kept it there at that. I'm sorry, but that's kind of been a standing time for us. I didn't know that someone had a conflict with it. So I will start at 7.15 and stay as long as I can. Okay, thank you, Mr. Diggins. Mr. Hurd. Hoping 7.45 is not a conflict of that meeting. No new business. I'm saving all mine to a meeting that ends before 10. Okay, great. I think you might, that might not be possible to share, but we'll, we'll stay. Mrs. Mahan. I actually have two pieces of new business that I'm going to save. So I'm copying Mr. Hurd. Okay. And I just want to wish everybody happy Thanksgiving. That's, that's my new business. And we will be back next Monday. So if we have a motion to adjourn. Second, Mr. Hurd. Okay, a motion by Mr. Hurd, seconded by Mrs. Mahan, attorney. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmut. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Really, yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Yeah, Mr. Hurd. Okay. 10.58. Have a good night. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Bye-bye. Happy Thanksgiving. Good night. Happy Thanksgiving.