The brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. The brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. The brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Yep, Charlamagne, the guy. Andrew Schultz.  And today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Turn your great idea into a reality with Squarespace. Squarespace makes it easier than ever to launch your passion project, whether you're showcasing your work or selling products of any kind, of any kind. With beautiful templates and the ability to customize just about anything, you can easily make a beautiful website yourself. And if you do get stuck, Squarespace's 24-7 award-winning customer support is there to help.   Do we have church announcements show to see? Yo, we do have church announcements. December, no, not December, October 26th. I'll be in Palm Beach, the Palm Beach improv. Then the first of November, I will be in Chico, California, L. Ray Theater. Then the second and third Sacramento, those shows are almost sold out. Make sure you go check those out right there. And then I'm coming back East Coast, Norwalk, was it the Wall Street Theater, Norwalk, Connecticut, the 14th, the 16th, the Wilbur in Boston, first show sold out, second show, we got some ticks left. And then the 22nd, New York City Town Hall, first show sold out, second show almost sold out. So get those tickets immediately, TheAndrewShows.com for more shows. I'm gonna be at South Carolina State this weekend. South Carolina State homecoming. South Carolina State is my mother's alma mater. Another black woman who was very influential in my life, Ms. Nicole Bavard. She graduated from South Carolina State. I believe she works at South Carolina State now too. That's my partner. But I'm gonna be down there all weekend. I'm gonna be down there Friday doing a Q&A. I'm not sure where the Q&A is at. I just know it's on a South Carolina State campus somewhere and you know, we'll be talking about my favorite subject, mental health. And then Saturday, I'll be at the game with the president of South Carolina State. And I got an announcement I'm gonna be making, man. Yeah, I got an announcement I'm gonna be making. So yeah, I'll see you. I can't wait to tell everybody what it is next weekend after it's done. But I'll be making that announcement at South Carolina State this Saturday. And on October 28th, I'll be in Rock Hill, South Carolina. I'll be at Winthrop University, okay? Having a conversation on improving mental health awareness with my home girl, Tanitra Michelle Williams, you know her of Destiny's Child, Marianne Williamson. I guess we still call Marianne Williamson a presidential candidate, right? No. Author, definitely New York Times best-selling author. Love Marianne, she's a cancer like me and myself. So we're doing this event called Tell Your Story and it's free food, free conversation. It's free to everybody. It's from two to four PM at Winthrop University on October 28th. So I'll see y'all there. Go get it and also check out See the God YouTube page. Oh, listen, man, I'm gonna tell you something about YouTube. See the God's YouTube page. Yes, youtube.com backslash See the God. I should have believed in myself. When I put the girlfriend's interview out, I should have believed in myself. I didn't want to have this conversation. How long I've known you and how long I've been telling you to do this? No, you're right, you're right. But I'm gonna tell, listen, this is just a thing. I'm just doing anxiety, you know what I mean? Like I put the girlfriend's interview out, right? Put it on my YouTube page exclusively. And like I said, we've been doing Breakfast Club for seven years. So you want that million in a day? You're used to that $200,000 in an hour, you know what I'm saying? You don't have no patience. I'm looking like... Come on, bro. I'm like, yo, $40,000? Come on, bro. I'm like, it's already noon. So I panicked. I'm like, Nick, throw it up on Breakfast Club page, right? I'm like, throw it up on Breakfast Club page, too, man. Cause I want them to get that look. You know, a girlfriend's means something to me. I know what they trying to do. I know they trying to get a movie, a miniseries.  Next thing I know, man, I'm sitting at $400,000, you know? And then Breakfast Club. On which page? On my page. Will you just let... Why don't you text me?  You know you've got to give it a little bit to hit the algorithm? No, I know, I know, I know. And Breakfast Club page had like $400,000 or something, but I was just like... So now you almost had a milli, but you need to be patient, bro. And that's what I should have just kept it all on my page and I just got this. Is that a weird way of thinking? Meaning like... No, we've all done that. We've all had that fear. We've had that fear.  Will we still get the numbers, et cetera?  You got to leap, bro. And you got to be patient and look, both our pages already up to $40, $50,000, something like that. The numbers already up to 10 episodes. I'm at $30,000 now I think. It's gonna go. You keep on putting content out there like I see y'all are doing. It's gonna go. I'm just excited.  They shitting on you, bro. They shitting on Angelo. It was like... What'd I say? They was like, yo, that vlog is I... He said Angelo. He didn't say Andrew. No, Angelo. I just want to make sure. They don't know who he is. They said, Angelo, come here real quick. This is a good learning lesson for you. Don't take it personal. What's that? There we go. There we go. I'm just saying, I put up a vlog for my... Could I interview the cast of Blackish this past Sunday, I was at Paleyfest. I'm actually putting that whole interview up, but Angelo did a vlog. I thought the vlog was cool.  I'm just telling you what they said in the comments. Alex, why you wrote that, bro?   Let him live, bro. And it took me a while.  It takes a time. And there was three X's and I was like, oh, Alex. Just telling you to put a little pressure on you. That's all. I mean, if you win, I'm with it. I just feel like... I didn't ask you to talk. That wasn't... I didn't ask you to get to him some of the V. We know what you said, dad. That's all. More shooting. Let's talk. I just wanted them to see who they was insulting on Instagram. But no, it does, it's not stressful.  You just got to tell yourself, bro, you're building something. That's it. And I don't ever have expectations. I don't ever look and say, yo, this is... I don't ever feel entitled for anything. And by the way, it feels good.  I did the $400,000 on girlfriends.   So much so that somebody in the YouTube comment said, oh, he paid for those views. How'd he jump up so fast? A few days took a while. You know what I'm saying? Put up the vlog for Blackish.  I liked that. It felt good. You know what I'm saying?  I'm so happy for you. And I love this. I really love this. And I made $100,000 already. Sir. Sir. I made $100,000. Well, you can find out real quick how little YouTube pays. No, by the way, that's what's about yo... You can find out real quick.  First of all, I never shitted on YouTube, but I did say there was no money in it. I still don't know if there's any money in it, but it's not about the money. It's about being able to create your own content and putting your own content out and connecting with people on that level. So the next thing that we're gonna start doing for you, and you let me know if you're committed to this YouTube thing. I mean, you have to start consistency and you have to establish numbers, but what we'll start doing is we'll start getting our own branded sponsorships like we do with Droppin' In, the Droppin' In series I do, and we'll start doing those for your content as well. What's the Droppin' In series? That's my vlog. So the travel vlog that I do. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time I'm in a new city doing the tour, I also do this travel show as well, and we get those sponsored by various sponsors, and that's how you create a TV show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like why am I going through a middleman that is television when I have direct contacts to the sponsors because we're reading ads here. When I'm creating my own show, if you have an interview with girlfriends, why is that not brought to you by better help? Why is that not brought to you by Squarespace? Oh yeah, so you're getting sponsored? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what we'll facilitate. Yeah, absolutely. That's why we built out the ad agency as well. So it's like, I realized in order to really run this game, you gotta own every piece of the pipeline. Absolutely.  I will say this, I also- So Chris, you're fired. He looks fired. When he looks fired, he looks fired. He looks like it. I wish that y'all could have saw that. He's outside the door. He looked like his T-Con didn't work. My God. You know what else is interesting about that though? I do realize I don't like the document. And this was so good about life, right? It's all good. Yeah, I like, you can really curate your content, right? Yeah. Cause I'm not one of these people that likes to show every aspect of what I'm doing.   I'm not saying, hey, I'm here, I'm here. And like we did a vlog the other day and I had shot a movie. I had a scene in a movie and it's a big movie. It's a movie that's coming out, focus films all that. And I was like, I'm like, I'm not posting that. Good. We did a whole vlog from the movie setting everything. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not posting it. You don't post that yet. Yes, you do it. You do it when the movie comes out next fall. You don't know if you're gonna be cut out the movie.  You know what I'm saying? What you do is when the movie is coming out and there's all this buzz about the movie and everybody loves the movie, they're interested in the movie, then you drop the vlog because what I do after I watch a TV show? I'm not getting cut out though. Listen. Very poignant scene. That's what we all think. I was cut out the Halloween movie so fast, bro. You was in Halloween? Yeah.  Yes, yeah.  I never knew that. I was in the extra scenes they put in the end but I thought there's no way you could cut me out because the scene I thought was very important to the plotline.   I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like it's moving the story forward. Yeah. But sometimes they just be moving the story forward. Yeah, absolutely. So that's what I'm trying to say but that vlog is perfect content because it's like, oh shit, Charlemagne was in this movie and you're curious about the movie. You want to see more? You know how many, you know how I do all the time? I'll watch a TV show and then I'm not done with it.   Ah, this is so good. I get it. I get it. Yeah. Listen, all I'm saying is, Angelo, hold it down until I find me a black video guy. Okay. Oh, now you're black. All right, now you're black.   So what are we doing? Are we going to continue or are we going? Oh yeah, so basically what's going to happen later at some point in time in this episode is we did an interview with Joe Coy. And Charlemagne was finishing a breakfast club so he comes in about maybe 10 minutes into the interview. So if it seems weird that he's not there for 10 minutes, that's what it is. We'll put that somewhere in the episode, but let's keep on going where we're at right now. Let's go, man. Let's start with LeBron James. Well, first of all, I just want to say, you know, that this podcast is brought to you by the great leader, Jim Payne of China, and that we would in no way go against. It might be, where would he's miced me? Where would he not miced me? He's not miced.  We don't know. He might be bored.  So LeBron had a week to figure out a statement to make on the NBA China situation. He really didn't. He had a whole week to put that together.  No, no, no, no, no.   And then if he was going to say shit, he had a week to cultivate the perfect response to this Chinese situation. Well, let's give him a backstory for people who don't know. Okay, sure. Daryl Morey, GM of the Houston Rockets, right? He put out a pro Hong Kong tweet. He tweeted a picture. It said, stand for freedom, support Hong Kong. It's really not that crazy. Stand for freedom, support Hong Kong.  Yes. Hold on, let's...  I just want Chris to tell us why Hong Kong and China are beefing. He don't know. In 30 seconds or less. Let's look from Taiwan. Just tell us why Hong Kong and China are beefing.  Right. Hong Kong was a territory of Britain up until about 15 years ago, and Britain signed a 99-year lease to control the territory of Hong Kong. And it was administrated by Britain. It was basically run under Western-style rules and people had something close to a Western-style lifestyle with courts and press and all the freedoms that we're used to. A little more freedom than China. A lot more freedom. A lot more freedom. China's one of the most repressive regimes in the world. And that's kind of at the core of what the issue is. And now China, when Hong Kong was returned to China, China said that they would continue to let Hong Kong operate under the rules and systems and expectations that they had become used to. No, no, no. However, now they're starting to tighten the noose a little bit, right? Yes. And that's what set off these riots that the thing that set off the riots was they said that they were going to... If you were convicted of a crime... Finish him! Sorry.  If you were convicted of a crime in Hong Kong... You're looking at the different... We got a new board, but keep going, Chris. Instead of being... Oh, Chris! Glory and information, Chris! Oh, Chris, don't want to come home! Go, Chris, go!  I hate it.  So now the idea is that you... If you were convicted of a crime in Hong Kong, instead of being tried in Hong Kong, they could extradite you back to mainland China and you would be tried there. And in mainland China, there's basically no rules. You're completely at the mercy of the Communist Party. Or worse than like a Commonwealth state in America. Oh, yeah, totally. There's no true legal due process. Everything's bribes. Everything's controlled by the Communist Party. You can steal a pencil and get 100 years in jail if they want to give it to you. Let's say you didn't steal a pencil. Let's say you bought it. They're like, you stole it. You can disappear tomorrow in China. So in Hong Kong, you get accused of a crime. They're like, well, we'd like to try you for that a crime you're accused of in China. And they're like, well, shit, I don't want to go over there because you just take me out. So they're fighting to not have that happen, which is completely reasonable. And that's where this whole thing kind of started. And it's not just Hong Kong. You got to understand that it's Tibet where they're basically taking over the country and bringing all the people into the Chinese system against their will. It's also, there's a huge ethnic minority. I don't know. A huge. Uighurs. How do you pronounce it? Uighurs. Uighurs. Is that like the niggers of China? In a way. You said it. That's how they treat them, essentially.  They're the Muslims. They're Chinese Muslims. So they look Chinese, but they practice Islam. They have mosques. They're tearing the roofs off of mosques out there. They're setting up what? Could be considered, yeah, or concentration camps depending on who you ask. The China's horrible. It's a terrible place. But we've always known it was horrible. So when this guy, Darryl Morey, puts out the pro-Hong Kong tweet, he's not wrong. No, it's 1,000% right.  I mean, who could pass? That's why, to me, LeBron's statement was really disappointing. You got to understand. I'm going to read his statement. We have a bite. We don't even need to say it. Yeah, we really get it. Hold up. Hold up. No time to get the sound bite right there. Hey, wait for it. So work in progress. That's how to do things to make my family proud, make my fans proud every time I step out of the house. So that's what it is. LeBron, do you get where the criticism comes from? Like, as complex as the issue is, I think, I was trying to ask, do you get where the criticism comes from, like, as complex as the issue might be? I think, generally, it's talking about freedom of speech and human rights issues. Where do you kind of process this? Um, I don't know. I mean, obviously, it's an amazing tough situation that we're all in right now. We're in association, as us as athletes, owners, GMs, whatever, so forth. And I think, you know, when an issue comes up, if you feel passionate about it, or you feel like it's something you want to talk about, then so be it. I also don't think that every issue should be everybody's problem as well. You know, so, you know, when things come up, there's multiple things that we haven't talked about that happen in our own country that we don't bring up.  Trying to make sure that the inner city kids that grow up in my hometown can have a brighter future and look at me as an inspiration to get out of the, you know, the hell hold up of the inner city, you know, and we don't talk about those stories enough, but we tend to, you know, want to talk about so many other things as well. So there's issues all over the world. And we, I think the best thing we can do is, you know, if you feel passionate about it, talk about it. If you're not, you don't have a lot of knowledge about it or you don't quite understand it, I don't think you should talk about it because it just puts you in a tough position. So take your own advice. Last question please. I plan on being here, being the captain of this team. I'm trying to figure out a way how we can win a championship. That's my main goal right now. I talked about it yesterday. I tweeted out a couple of responses that people are not understanding, you know, my knowledge of what it came from for my brain and for me, learning from the situation. I'm talking about it now and I probably won't talk about it. Yeah, what the fuck, I was thinking about the statement that said, I don't want to get into a word of sentence few with Daryl Maury. All right. Well, we can put it in later, but basically he said, I don't want to get into a word of sentence few with Daryl Maury. So let's put some context real quick. So that statement is a, I made a boo boo yesterday. So that was the cleanup. This is the cleanup. The one we just played with the cleanup. We played the cleanup. The initial statement is the one Charlotte's about to read. Yes, I don't want to get into a word or sentence few with Daryl Maury, but I believe he wasn't educated on the situation at hand and he spoke. And so many people could have been harmed, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually. So just be careful what we tweet and what we say and what we do. Even though yes, we do have freedom of speech, but there can be a lot of negative that comes with that too. That's just my belief, I don't know. That's my belief. That's all I can say. I believe he was either misinformed or not really educated on the situation. And if he was, then so be it, but I have no idea. That's just my belief that when you say things or do things and you know that people can be affected by it and the families and the individuals and everyone that can be affected by it, sometimes things can be changed and also sometimes social media is not always the proper way to go about things as well, but that's just my belief. Now I saw somebody also tweet out yesterday. I don't know if this is true, but I haven't heard it anywhere. They asked LeBron to say something about China and he was like, I'm not a politician or something to that effect. I don't know if that's true. I thought you're more than an athlete. He is more than an athlete, but you know what he is?  There we go. He's a compatriot. So when you can be more than an athlete and part of that more is being a compassionate capitalist. Now, what is a compassionate capitalist? A compassionate capitalist is somebody that cares about the issues of people, right? But you don't have the same compassion for all people. And by the way, that's fine. Bro, that's perfectly A-O-K. Let me tell you something. This is, we were talking on the Flagrant 2 Patreon episode about this exact thing and when I criticized his initial statement, the one you just read, I said, I wish he said what his follow-up was. That's all I wanted anybody to say. I don't remember the whole thing but he said something so effective. Yo, I care about my community. And that's fine. I care about that. You don't gotta care about anything else. Listen, you actually don't even have to care about your community but the fact that you're doing that is great. You don't have to solve every problem in the world. That's 100% okay. I just want someone out here. I just want people who aren't being hypocritical and being honest, being selective with their outrage. Somebody asked me yesterday. It's okay to be selective with it. Yes, somebody asked me yesterday, somebody said, do you care if people in Hong Kong are oppressed? And I said, yes. I care about anybody being oppressed. I think if I want them to be liberated but that's that. I care less.  I just don't know. What am I gonna do? That's all I can say. Yeah, of course I care about liberation but like LeBron said, we got things going on in our own backyards right here. No disrespect to them. But Dick Gregor used to say something all the time.  So I'm like, stay out the Asian folks business. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know why LeBron can't stay out those Asian folks business? Because he makes so much money in China.   Yeah. LeBron's business is basketball. That's him. His son, Rich Paul and Clutch Sports Management. They sell sneakers over there. They got Space Jam 2 coming out.  All he cares about in that situation, when it comes to that, his compassion is for his back. That's why I liked what he said with the follow up. Because the initial thing, the biggest problem I had with the initial thing was when he said, I don't think that Daryl Morey should talk about this issue.  Right? Misinformed. He was misinformed or whatever, right? That was my biggest issue because you're out here saying that you should speak on your issues, but you're telling someone not to speak on an issue that it could affect you. So that's where the hypocrisy comes from. I don't care if he only cares about the inner city community. I think that's awesome, great. You don't have to care about everybody. But don't tell other people what injustices they should care about based on your dollar. By the way, not only your dollar, your knowledge of a situation. I'm not dissing, I don't know what LeBron knows, but I guarantee you he does not know about the Hong Kong Chinese conflict, the way he knows about what's happening with police and unarmed black men in this country. That's it. And when he uses the term misinformed, that's very critical because that's not something he would naturally say. That's straight up Chinese propaganda for the Chinese government. That's the term that they focused in on to try to attack Morey. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, that's a very specific phrase that they're using. Why that term? It's kind of like a nuance. You don't know the real story. That's what it implies. It implies, hey, you think China where the bad guys trying to shut down Hong Kong and take away their liberties. No, you're misinformed.  I mean, I've been tweeting about it a bit and there are these Asian bots. These Chinese bots are always responding going, oh, why are you okay with looters and riders destroying property and just at the other, I was like, oh, you are going at specific tweets with specific information. There's a lot of Chinese nationalism at play right now too where the mainland Chinese are getting their backs up against the wall and fighting back against anyone who criticizes China. But I think there's also something going on where everyone says this is so confusing. This is an Asian problem. We don't understand. It's not that confusing.  Yeah, but what are we supposed to do? Well, you cannot carry, you can stop it.  Let me ask you a question. I'm on Charlemagne the God.  I know they don't. And actually, I saw one of the guys from Hong Kong, I read the statement yesterday, he gave like, if he was white and said what he said, they would say he was doing all lives matter because he actually said, LeBron cares about black lives matter. Well, Hong Kong lives matter too. This is a guy from Hong Kong. That's literally like all lives matter.   I just don't know, but it's the same energy. Yo, what do we, what do we, what do Chris's, Chris's, I don't know, demographic or whatever your people with your ideology always say, why is America interfering with other country's business? Why are we getting involved in these foreign wars? Why are we getting involved in these foreign problems? Right? And then all of a sudden we're like, and we mind our business. It's, well, how dare you not care about the liberties of the world? When we go into these countries and we give them quote, unquote, freedom and kill millions of people to give them freedom, weedy assholes. Well, we don't, weedy assholes.   Trump pulls out of Syria and then all these motherfuckers who are anti-war all of a sudden are going, well how could you do this to the Kurds?  A Kurd is a thing of cheese to you.    Listen, and by the way, another thing with LeBron that I found very interesting. The NBA, right? He didn't have to say anything. Like he didn't, LeBron literally had to say nothing on this subject. Like there was nothing to be said. Nobody was done. I didn't even, I still don't even really know what was going on. I saw the Darryl Maury tweet.  I had no idea. So why did he feel like he needed to say something? And I don't like the fact that people are calling him fake though. Cause I don't think he's fake.  You understand what I'm saying? He didn't realize until now because he wasn't forced to deal with it. Yes, he's a compassionate capitalist, right? Meaning that he's a young black man from the inner city of Cleveland, right? So he has a specific attachment to certain things that happen in this country, right? Whether it's police killing unarmed black and brown people, right? Of course, yeah, you can ride for Kaepernick. You see the injustice that's happening over there.  Like to be honest, that's all low-hanging fruit, especially for somebody six foot 10. Now you know what I'm saying? Like it's easy to grasp at those. But now when it comes to, oh, you know that is injustice happening all across the world and it's happening over there in Hong Kong and China too. Like these people are fighting for their liberation just the same way black people in America are fighting for their liberation, not the same way. But you know what I mean? This is different levels of liberation, right?  You know, he was misinformed, whatever, whatever. It isn't that.  Oh no, he realized before that moment. Because he had a whole week. He had a whole week where he realized it and in that week, he's supposed to come up with the perfect statement. Which was the second statement he made, which was, Why make a statement at all? Oh, the perfect statement is to say nothing. That's not the same. He's the only person.   Talk about it.  What I care about is black people in America and their struggle.  You knew they were going to talk to him because there are these conferences all the time. And then what started to happen is when people would ask questions in the news conferences, there was this lady to ask and they were shut down. Now that becomes a new story. When they kick someone out of the NBA games, these pre-season games because they're putting the free Hong Kong posters up in the games, that becomes a story. So you can't avoid it. You got to meet it head on. And he said the best thing, I care about my community. Some people just care about the environment.  They're allowed to do that. Right? They're allowed. Motherfuckers care about climate change more than they care about an election security bill.  It just is what it is. So it's like you're allowed to pick and choose your thing. They're like vegans who really care about animals, right? That's their thing.   Is he still around? Up. Yo, did you see him making out with Rosario Dawson pretending to like it? No way. Did you see that door? You've never seen it. You've never seen it. You've never seen it. What? You've never seen it. There was apparently a picture. You made it up. You've never seen it. I thought there was a picture. There's so many posts in a picture. You've never seen them together. Somebody show me. Prove me wrong. Apparently there's a picture of him seeing them together. But you didn't see it? Nobody saw that. And then he like turns around and kind of gags a little bit. All he kept saying last night was, I don't like me. I don't like me. Who said that? Cory Booker. Lies. Thou that protest. Thou that protest. I'm, what is it? Thou that protest. Thou that protest. Too much, Cory. Thou protest too much. Cory, let's be honest. Come on now, Cory.   And this is really a prime example of compassionate capitalism. Like I'm gonna start to believe it. I don't think- I'm just compassionate about it though. What, capitalism? No. I mean, what he did. Selective compassion is what he's saying. Yeah. He's collectively compassionate about his issues. He's compassionate about his issues. And by the way, he's compassionate about his money in China, Chris. Yeah, look. I haven't taken this game.  So I care about it.  And that's what I told Angela Ryan yesterday. I'm like, yo, we gotta stop. That's the only reason why you care. You're being just as selfish as LeBron. Like you care about your little vacations to Taiwan every year. You wanna make sure you can do that without him. You care about your direct interests. Exactly. LeBron direct interests is money in China. There's money in China. That's it. Now, here's the thing. I'm okay with that. But just admit that that's you.  You know what I'm saying? That's all I care about.   Meaning when I say hypocrite, I mean like I can care more about certain issues than others. Like I can care more about freedom in America than I care about freedom in China, in other words, right? You know when people use that Martin Luther King, Jr. quote, maybe like an injustice anywhere. Yeah, he tweeted that. There's a threat to justice everywhere.  Yeah, but- LeBron was talking about America, bro. Exactly. Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't. But LeBron was talking about America. Yeah, we, you know- Martin Luther King, Jr. was talking about Vietnam. He was talking about South Africa. He was talking about different injustices all across the world. LeBron- LeBron might have been talking about Cleveland, bro. I see! Bro, you gotta make your bed first. You know what I mean? Like you can't invite nobody over unless your bed is made and you know, the dinner is set and the plates are put out, right? But I think there was another level to it with him too. Cause if you really read his comments, I think he was upset that a white executive in the NBA did something that's potentially gonna cost the NBA billions. Depending on how it plays out. Maybe more. Yeah, he was saying something like- And that guy didn't get fined. He didn't get fired. And I think the- I think the reason- You want him to get fined or fired? Yeah. Why? No, no, no, no. This is good. Why? Because this is what I'm inferring from what he said. Yeah, why should you get fined or fired? He said that though. What he said was we know if a player had done something that had such an impact on the league at this level, financially, you know there would be ramifications. Pause. Pause. Do they talk about Trump every single day? I don't agree with him. No, no, no, I'm just saying. Yeah, I'm telling you what he said. That's what Adam Silver said back.  You have freedom of speech in America. What this another problem I have with what LeBron did. He's basically saying that you should be able to silence certain people if it affects the bag. And the reality is, buddy, this is America.  And if we get into a situation where you can't say anything that affects the bag, effectively you can't say anything. Right.  Oh, by the way, when you affect the bag is when you do get fired. That's why these people boycott corporations and they try to stop money. Well, more is affecting the bag. There's no doubt about that. This is affected the bag. Oh, yes he has. And a very, very significant bag. He probably cost a billion dollars. He probably cost the NBA a billion dollars. Bro, he probably fought, and by the way, he plays for the Rockets. Who has a bigger Asian fan base than the Rockets?  But you cannot find someone for affecting the bag. You can find someone.  You don't go to jail.  You made a mistake. Or you did something that was completely okay. For example, Elon Musk goes on Joe Rogan's podcast Smokes and Weed and the stock dips, you know, 5% and they lose, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever. That's not illegal. That's not an illegal thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, you're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do whatever you want. This is America. We have freedom of speech.  The fact that LeBron is out here going, we need to find him, we need to get him fired. For what? For saying that motherfuckers shouldn't be put in concentration camps? For saying that motherfuckers shouldn't be exterminated because they're religion? By the way, you know who he sounded like? Say it. Donald Trump. There we go.  Should be fired. You don't stand for the anthem. Should be fired. So this is my perfect situation. Where is, look how easy it is to become the person you hate when your interests are affected. Oh yeah. And that's what I want to take away. I'm reading TechTruz's tweets and saying, yeah, this guy's making a lot of sense. I want to take away from this to be is that you can't understand someone's actions until you're in that position. Like for example, these people who make tons of money that don't want to pay no taxes, you never had the luxury to choose how much you're paying taxes to decide that you don't want to pay that much. I had to pay my taxes yesterday. Shit.   You think I wouldn't want that Amazon tax break zero dollars?  If you really, if you really, if you've ever had to pay taxes? Chris. I'll pay it all, man.  Stop it.  I'm okay. No, I've always said I'm okay paying a slightly higher tax rate. I would only pay him if I knew exactly what the money was going. You're never gonna know exactly where it's gonna go.  If I knew it was doing that, free health care, I'm all for it. But you have to take that leap of faith because there's no other alternative. Trickle down doesn't work. I've been alive 41 years old. 41 years, I don't know who the fuckfuck is. I still think it's the goddamn basketball soccer league. The football league.  FIFA. FIFA. Exactly.   Oh, where that money goes. You gotta chalk it up to the game. It is one of those things. But this is a perfect example of just hypocrisy exposed and it's great to see what happens when you check people's pockets. And now, if we know a guy like LeBron James is willing to put up with concentration camps, internment camps, the harvesting of organs. Iphones. Stripping of rights of an entire country of people. Iphones. To fill in of them, right?   Because if you're okay with people dying so you could make your sneakers, you should be okay. You should understand when Exxon Mobile is okay with a bunch of oil being spilled in the Gulf so they can make money. I'm telling you right now, Andrew, I agree with you 100% and I don't think LeBron Nule knows any of that. I think LeBron is being downloaded on all of that now. I think LeBron's mindset was simple.  Interesting. We gotta go over here and sell shoes.  This guy's got a billion dollar motherfucking lifetime deal. He's got a son coming that's gonna end up doing a deal with Nike. He's got a movie coming out. This motherfucker got a sports agency. They gotta go over there and play ball. He wants to own a team one day.  And I guarantee you LeBron's been to China 17 times. Foreign nationals don't get treated like the citizens do. So he has no idea they have no freedom. My one thing that I would say is I've always thought LeBron was one of the more intelligent people in entertainment sports and one of the more savvy people in entertainment sports. So I never assume ignorance with people that smart. That's not, but that's not ignorant. That's just not knowing. Like you don't, nobody knows everything.  But I can't assume that with a guy who I put on a pedestal with his intellect and like his, his savvy and his marketing genius. Like I'm on record saying LeBron is changing the game in terms of how athletes market themselves.   Where you gonna go? She said China. This girl crazy. Listen to me. I'm gonna tell you what she said. The buildings are modern. No. What else did she say? People lost their goddamn mind. You ain't going nowhere. You ain't going to Canada. You ain't going nowhere.   It don't matter where it is.  It depends what you like though. Do you like, all right. If you like cold eight months out of the year, yeah. I could be in Anguilla. I could retire in Anguilla. And so you have a health issue. And there's no. And hospitals and all that. And they apply. They apply. America can go there from med school. The ones who can't get into anywhere else. No, that's not true. Americans go there from med schools. The second anybody with money in any of the Caribbean islands, when you back me up, they fly to New York or Miami. Am I wrong? Hey, what's wrong with that? My point is when- What's wrong with flying to the defect? You can go down there in the Wi-Fi. Gonna be out for two months.   That's what you say. But you're gonna get bored. I go there to turn my phone off. I know, but you're gonna wanna turn your phone off for 40 years? I'm a group chat, y'all.  But Duvall fly back? Yes, he does. Cause he gotta get that money to keep going back. There we go. But he got a house there. Listen, I could do it, bro. I'm being honest with you. I think you can, but if you're there for 40 years, listen, the island life is not easy. Like talk to folks who have moved from America to like the Bahamas or these types of places. They love it. Dude, they love it for a little, but there are difficulties. I've spoken to people. Me too. And they say it's totally fine. They don't miss nothing. They're looking at you like, why are you still in America? Yo, listen. Yo, when I was there over the summer, met a woman, she was living in Brooklyn. She was living in Brooklyn for like her whole life. She been living in, grandfathers might have a place in Angola. She been living in Angola for like the last four or five years. I was like, yo, do you miss it?   Living the life, man, but she older though. It just depends on your interest.  No, I got a girl pro. Oh my bad. But I do be slinging it. I do be slinging it though. I do be slinging it.  I'm happy. I can't wait for you to do that. You're also competitive. You're in the mix.  I don't think you could disconnect all the way. I think you like being part of it. Yeah. I think even when you're old, you're going to like being part of it. It depends. If I can still, if I can still affect change, meaning like if I can still empower people, things like that, yes, but. Who's empowering you from Anguilla right now? The people. No, but like what, where is the Charlemagne, the God that is there? You're going to be slightly disconnected. Listen, there's no doubt you could empower the people of Anguilla and those surrounding islands and like the culture there. But if you want to empower the people within the place that you're in, you got to be there, bro. You got to be on the streets. You got to be touching the people. I used to think that, but I think social media changed that, man.   That's why you should listen to me. You should listen to me because I retired and I'm living in this multimillion dollar house in Anguilla. I don't know. I don't want this to seem like we're shitting on Anguilla. Like clearly you love it and it's an amazing place for you. I think I could live in Africa too. What part? Ghana, Lagos, no, maybe not Lagos. I like Lagos. I like Nigeria though. Ghana, Ghana and Johannesburg. Right. I think I could live in those places. Bet. You got it. I do. You got that.  Yo, you got that. You got that. This is the house. Yo, let me know. Give me a dress. I'm going to be in the house. I'm going to be in the house. I'm just saying, bro. We traveled, we traveled the world, bro. Like is, we were in Australia, right? Australia is the most similar place I've ever been to, to America culturally. It is America. Exactly the same. It's closest to London. 10 times closer. Closer to Canada. You could live in London? No, it's not that I couldn't. I like London. Listen, we could live in many different places. You know, we're fighting over like which yacht we want to live in, right? We're talking about like the best places in the world. Like, yeah, we could easily live in and succeed and have so much fun in these places, right? What I think America offers you is diversity, not in terms of race, but in terms of like the place you want to live. Like if you live in Canada, right?  Beautiful. People, beautiful place, right? You're going to be cold for eight months. You have to be. You have to be cold for eight months. You could travel. No, you can't. In New York, we call for like six. Not every, but yeah, but I could live in Miami. I could retire in Miami. I could retire in San Diego. I could retire in Arizona. I could retire in all these places. If you're in Canada, you have to be cold. You have to be. You must be cold. Do you know what I'm saying? Have you seen Drake's house? Say what? Have you seen Drake's house? No, it's covered in snow.  I can't see his house. That's how cold. Drake's house is like 60,000 square feet. It better be inside.  It's unbelievable. No, I believe it. I'm saying like, if you live in London, right, you have to be in the rain and the fog for eight months and it's dark for eight months. You have to, you must. But it's got to be other creature comforts that make them feel good about the place that they're in. You know, I'm sure there are other things and don't get me wrong. These places are incredible, right? We're talking about it would be the most amazing thing in the world. For 90% of the world, the most amazing thing would be to live in any of these places.  Don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is you can't deny that America has certain disadvantages but advantages in terms of lifestyle. We acknowledge that, right? Depends what you have. We speaking from a place of where we don't live in Camden, New Jersey. No, I'm talking prosperity. Like we're talking about you and I that we have the disposal income to live anywhere that we want, right? And if I have to be locked in one place, I would like, dude, dude, if someone's like, you can live anywhere in Europe, if we compare Europe to America, boom, it's lit.  I could spend my winters in the South of Spain. I could really choose, but America is that.  I enjoyed myself in Johannesburg, yo. We were sitting outside one time.  We was outside Nelson Mandela Square Mall. And we was eating outside.   And then I look at the people that I follow from Johannesburg and Lagos, like my home girl, Cuppie, and my home girl, Bonang. Where does Cuppie live at? Cuppie lives in between London and Lagos. Right. Yeah. She was here a couple of weeks ago. But it's like, yo, they balling. Like they doing everything there. Like they got the Phantoms and- She's also a billionaire, dude. Like a billionaire is a billionaire anywhere. That's what I'm saying. Bonang is like, when you see Bonang, Bonang is like the, I don't wanna say Kim Kardashian, but she got like her own reality show. She got her own champagne. She's on the cover of all the magazines in Africa, the GQ's and the bulbs and all of that.  Yeah. Like they look, I'm like, yo, they look like they doing better than most people here. Yeah. No, they are. Cause they're billionaires, right? Like I think the one thing also is that you have to think about is your safety.  Oh, you mean like a country where you don't have to walk around with security also? Right. I would know, I don't know the feeling.  And then you'd be all right. But then it would be any fun. No, I'm with you. That's a choice. We gotta exercise this freedom of speech thing. Yo, I'm with you. Michael Bloomberg billionaire could ride the subway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel me?  Like the Michael Bloomberg of Lagos, Nigeria cannot ride the subway. No. Right? And the Michael Bloomberg of Johannesburg, South Africa probably cannot ride the subway. Right? The Michael Bloomberg of London can do it.  Yeah, but what about those guys that look nonchalant just sitting by him in the suits, y'all? I don't believe, man. I don't believe. They're going to Wall Street too. Yeah, they got guns. I don't believe Bloomberg walking around without no security. I'm not in New York. Nah, man, nah. Maybe, maybe not. You think so, Chris? We used to see the Kennedy, Kennedy Jr. He had to act security. Yeah, you got to.  Yeah, you can be a celeb in New York in LA and not have armed security. All the time. It depends who you are. It depends who you are. It's not only celeb. It depends who you're from.  I agree with you. Go to Mexico. It's going to happen. You only need to kidnap. You need constant security. And there is a point in time. And I'm sure you've experienced some of this where it's like, am I free? Am I free if I have to be protected all the time? What cost?  But you're not worried about your kids. That's the difference. You know what I mean? You're not worried about someone snatching your kid up at school. There's a reason I don't put them on social media. Which is smart. But that could just be my own paranoia, my own. But if you were in one of these other countries, there would be an armed guard coming to your kid's school, picking them up, taking them straight home, whatever the case may be. Absolutely. We're basically talking about first world problems.  And I understand I'm like a white guy living in 2019. So it's great. But we are so lucky to live in the first world. And I'm talking about all the different countries in the first world in 2019. Like, the... I mean, it's the room where everybody tries to come here. Of course. But what I mean is, I mean London. I mean Manchester. I mean Birmingham. I mean Paris. I mean Madrid. I mean Barcelona. I mean, anywhere in the first world in 2019, in the greatest time in history, where we have, I mean, literally, do you realize that like most of the people in the world are like fighting for water? They don't have water to drink. Oh no, absolutely. Right? And we, in this country, take shits into clean water. Think about that. Think about how four shits... Somebody would drink. They would die to drink the water in a toilet.   After we... That's how much more waste than water.   And most of the world is like, what is toilet paper? Wow. They don't even know what toilet paper is. They're like, is that what you used to use leaves for?    So would I be... Perfective, baby. Son, would I be happy living in any of the places that we live?  So you tell me that China's that trash? Yeah. Really? I mean, look, Shanghai, Beijing, Guazong, I mispronounced that, but like, those are definitely what you would consider first world cities. The irony is the real city in Asia that you could live in or could have lived in tomorrow, zero transition felt just like America's Hong Kong. And that I should about to be now. And that's why... Tokyo. I mean, Tokyo's its own thing, but Tokyo's a world-class city for sure. Yeah, you could live there easily. That's not the same thing, is that it?  This is Japan. Japan. But you could easily live there. I mean, Taipei's like America. So why do you like to go to China so much then? They don't... They got that wall. Really? Yeah, that's the only thing. It's just a tourist attraction. That's what Trump's building here. I'm gonna stop acting like that. I know what the fuck's going on in China. You know what I know about China? That everything in America is made in it. Every time. That's all I know about China. Here's the thing, and I wanna clarify. It's not that like, it's not Chinese culture or people are bad. It's that there is a dictatorship that limits freedom, right? Because clearly Chinese culture is awesome. That's why they recreate China every time they move to America or any other country, right? You got those ball players that go to China and act like they love it. Right. Like Stefan Marbury became damn near a billionaire in China. Killing it, loving it. But there's a limit. I would, if you wanna educate yourself, there's a movie, a documentary about a Chinese artist named Ai Weiwei called Never Scared. And it's a documentary about him trying to speak out through his art against the Chinese government. It's one of the most incredible things I've seen. I mean, when you see what this guy is really up against and how they come after him, it's on a very visceral level. You can really get a sense of what it would be like to have an opinion in China that goes against the governments. It's heavy, heavy stuff.  Country of two billion people, right? Yeah.  Think about America. We got 350 million people.  Very important to bring up here. Yeah, sure. So we have 350 million people. We are being torn apart at the seams, right? Democrat, Republican, everybody's paying because we have options of what to be and what to believe in. So the Chinese have two billion people and they're looking at all these different democracies in the world and they're like, oh, what eventually happens?  So what are we gonna do? We are gonna have one Chinese party, one identity of what it is to be Chinese and anybody that doesn't go along with that, he gotta go and we're gonna remove any other influencing factors. You know there's no religion, right?  That'll never work though. Well, no, but here, so my father-in-law is a professor of Asian studies and I was asking him just that question, like why do they come down so hard? Why is there no room for any sort of gray area with them? And he said basically the Communist Party understands that China is not supposed to exist as one. It's too many people, bro. If you look at it historically, it's really supposed to be 10 or 12 smaller countries within what we today see as modern China. You're looking at the Soviet Union, right? If you go to Russia and you go to these places, there are all these different ethnic groups that are there. Not everybody's a blonde, blue-eyed Russian. There's Asian-looking people, et cetera. One person could never be in control of two billion people, effectively. Exactly, but what you do, you take away the fact that they're 12 different states by removing the identity of each state. So when they see a place like Hong Kong, which is supposed to be part of China, but has its own identity, that's a threat. That's a threat, you gotta stomp that out. Because then Beijing starts going, yo, why can't we be Beijing about it? Like the whole idea of America, which is, hey, we're not actually America. We're the United States. Think about that. The states are even in our name.  Absolutely.   The fact that we've been able to keep this together for 300 years. So that's why though. It's a miracle. The fact that we've been able to keep it together is because you have all of these different people that have their own identities. And we let them. And not only that, you have all of these different democracies throughout America who can all contribute to the greater good of America.   And that's why a threat to the establishment or democracy, right? Like what you're saying about Trump limiting democracy is a huge threat to American identity, right? Like if people actually. That's not what we're about. Exactly. If people actually realize that like, and you've been trying to talk about it a lot here and you've been bringing up fascism and these types of things, it's not necessarily like, oh my God, we're going to become Nazis again. It's not really about that. It's the reason why we've been able to keep this country together is people really believe that they can do their own thing. And they can have their own identity. Absolutely. And once you start stripping that from them, what is the point? What is the fucking, if I can't be myself, why am I in America? Why are you in America? Why do my parents come here?  And any president that tries to take that, he got to go. I mean, that's what I was saying about China. Like eventually it's just a natural order of things for people to rebel. It's not going to happen. A hundred years ago, there was no China. You got to understand that. What was it? It was a bunch of warlords and one guy controlled this area and another guy controlled this area. I mean, China was in chaos. Americans don't understand that. They think that China has been this country that's been running smoothly for the last 2,000 years. And it's, no, 1919, it was chaos. They were warlords. They were getting invaded by the Japanese, by the British, the Americans. Like that's a country that historically has really always been on the edge of falling apart. So, we look at it now and say, well, why are they doing those things? Because they know what's around the corner if they don't stop this stuff out. You know what it is? You've worked in small radio and you've worked in big corporate, billion-dollar corporation radio. The rules on big corporate, big billion-dollar corporate radio, right? The office rules are much more strict. The office politics, how you can talk to people, all the people that are listening, what you can say. All this is way more strict because that's the only way that you can keep intact in order in a massive company with thousands of employees. That's, you're absolutely right.  We hanging out, ain't no rules. Except the America's showing that you can do it though. Everything that y'all are explaining. Or the typing. Is the reason why certain people want to shut down big tech. So you keep going. I mean, that's just what it is.  You understand what I'm saying? Yep, and it's too much power. It's too much power. It's too much power for you to control ideas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say you're Mark Zuckerberg and you feel one way about the world. That's cool, but you happen to have too much influence to feel one way about the world. It's like.  So now you only have to amplify. Boom, right?  Where they're like, well, we can pay them whatever we want, right? And I'm a private business, so I should be able to pay people whoever much I want to pay them. It's like, yeah, you should be able to do that. But what you're doing is leveraging all the buying power that you have or the paying power that you have to pay them less, right? And that's cool, you could do that. 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And white, white sensation. White sensation. Can't forget my dad. I thought you were half black. Oh man, yeah. No, is your wife black? No. Where did I get this from?  Yeah, it's the sneakers, man. Your sneaker game is so official. It's very black. No, Joe Koy is in the building right now. I love you, man. You know, I think it's amazing watching what's happening with you. It's like, you have this weird thing where, how, it's like you've been successful for too long.  You've been really nice to me and you've been like, hey man, I've been watching what's going on with you. But you're like watching like a build with me, right?  About, I mean, it's always been a cross, but it's like, yeah, about 10. But it's been a cross. It was between clubs and theaters. And now, like, lately it's been. The Hawaii thing was insane. That was crazy.  It was insane. This was the arena, it was like the, it was where the, what is it? The University of Hawaii plays. It's called the Blazell Arena. Okay. And we did four of those. How many Hawaiians are there? They were, though, if you were on vacation that day, you didn't see any Hawaiians. Right.  I want poke. I want poke and I want it now. I want a pineapple. So for the show. I want an aloha.  It literally was. The entire. The entire, and we had an end stage set up. So it wasn't in the round. You know, where they put it up against the, you know, like a, they put it at the end instead of in the round. So there was curtains, and people were sitting behind the curtains. They were there just to listen. It was so, it was so packed. Hold on, you sold tickets behind the curtain. Yeah, it was crazy.  And they were like, yeah, brother, let's go. Shit. Yeah, bro. Put open everything, bro. It's their seats. I go, yeah, well, they give us, bro.  Like while we were taping, I would peek around the curtain and wave to them. Cause literally people were sitting behind the. It's insane. Yeah, man. Why is it in Hawaii? I don't know what. It's not a big Filipino population. Do they think you're Hawaiian? Do you present this Hawaiian? I don't, I don't know. They gave me, well, there is a big Filipino population there, but I think it's just, I don't know, man. I really don't know what it was. I really don't. It just, it, that one was the first one to blow up after my special. And when we went, we put the tour on sale, it literally was the first thing to sell out. Like in minutes, I remember they were doing like a news report on it. And my manager was like, hey, they're talking about you on the news right now. And I was like, what? I think it's one of those places where it's like, it's so isolated from the States that they still have like kind of hive mentality as people. You know, like where like certain groups, there's still a group there. There's still like a one people. So like if one guy's talking about it, he's telling the uncle and auntie. That's so true. You're 100%, I never even thought of that. You're right, man. It's like the word of mouth is real there. 100%. Like you're 100%.  And you're gonna have 6,000 people there, 12,000, whatever, how many shows you're doing.   I'll post a video and it was like, thank you Atlanta. And then people go, you're in Atlanta? Yeah. That's a thank you video. That means I was just there. So we were talking about this, Ben and I actually were talking about this the other day because you know how like a lot of celebs are doing this text message thing now? Yeah. I don't even know what it's, so it's like the new version of email, right? But they're basically like, here's my number, it's not really their number, but there's a system that this company set up and it basically, they send text to your phone, you could text them right back and it literally is that. And it's like the closest proximity that you can have to your fans, kind of in a way where like Twitter was back in the day. Remember how like Twitter, do you remember the first celeb you tweeted and they respond to you? Yes. Who? It was Manny Pacquiao. But let me tell you why.  Yeah, I had to, I had to. And I'm so happy that you said that. We are so true man, it was Manny Pacquiao and you're not gonna believe why. Cause we got his Twitter. Wait a minute, you chose the Twitter name? We got Manny Pacquiao and we gave it to him. Oh dude. Yeah. So that Manny Pacquiao verified is cause of us. Do you? It wasn't from his team. I'm saying it right now. We got him that and then we gave it to him and then we were the first ones to tweet him. Like I remember, yo, that's so crazy about Twitter. I remember I was mind blown that we even got him. I was like, what do you mean he doesn't have Manny Pacquiao? He does get punched in the head for letting. Yeah. Yeah, that's sure. Yeah, dude, that's so crazy. I remember the first person to respond to me was, I forget the guy's name, but he was Omar from the wire. What? What is it? What is the actor's name? I thought it was Omar. Yeah. All those people are those people. Yeah, that's really enough. No. What is his name? Michael K Williams. K Williams, yeah. So Michael K was Omar from the wire. I tweeted this. I was like, how cool would it be if there was a prequel to the wire which was the Omar stories, like his rise to fame in Baltimore or whatever. And I just had him in the tweet and he goes, hey, that'd be a great idea. This at the other.  And I think this is, and now as like, social media has become a little bit more distant. Like now we're posting, Alex and I are posting these videos of like being on the road, that kind of stuff. It's become almost like a version of TV where there's a little separation. It's like, how do you create that intimacy again? So everybody's doing this text message thing. Do you, and I'm glad you said that because I really do reply back to my DMs. Yeah, sure. And I'm up and people always think I'm crazy or whatever, but I'm like, but if you don't do that, man, they start to lose touch with you. For sure. And they really, it takes a lot for someone, just like what you said before you became who you are. That meant a lot to you when someone reached out to you. So like when I do that and I see the reaction, I really feel it. Like there's a lot of people that are numb by that. And I don't understand why you're numb by that.  I am, man. I've noticed that. Like you got a lot of like love in you. I am, I do. And I really appreciate like the grind. Like when I say that to you, I'm being very genuine. And you do inspire me. And I literally, I'm not saying that to blow. I think I DM'd you and said that because it's just like, I'll sit there and I'll watch it.  And I got to learn. You know what I mean? That's the cool thing about what we do.  And then there's people that appreciate and learn and get inspired. That's the best compliment you can give somebody. You know what I mean? You don't have to like somebody for what they do or you know what I mean? Like, I don't like that guy's style economy. That's fine.  But you can't get inspired by that person. 100%. Because there's a reason why you're hating on him because you're not where he's at. Or where she's at. You're not as successful. Like I've never heard like a really wealthy, successful person hate on someone doing worse than them. No. It would be petty.  Yeah, man. Like Elon Musk just shitting on some like high school science for a project.  He said, what? What are you talking about? Why'd you say that, Tesla? Elon, why'd you do that? Could you let Charlotte? Exactly, right? Exactly, right? He's shitting over the 300. Gas, gas, gas, gas. Joe Coy. Hey, we got Charlotte in the building. What's happening? We're talking about, we're talking about hate. We're talking about connectivity with fans. I love hate. You're someone who knows quite a bit about hate. I get it. That's how I connect with my fans. I make them hate me. He doesn't mind this. But there's something I notice that you do. Is that if someone puts out false information in the comment section, you will be right there. But that's because I just. That's how I'm going to start getting responses from you when you don't text me back.  Because I don't care about a lie or anything like that, but when somebody's just wrong, you know what I'm saying? And you can take the opportunity to teach. I take the opportunity to teach. That's all. I don't do it often. Nah, you do it often. Really? It's kind of great because it's like. Yeah, you're once in a while. I want you to know, Sherman, you're once in a while is often. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how we're often.  So they don't realize they're helping us.  They're helping us. But I love your attitude about it. It's never angry or confrontational. It's like, it's condescending. It is. It's coming from a place of me looking down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't ever think twice. It's hilarious. It's real. It's obvious. Obviously, you weren't listening to the episode. Period. Like, you add that period. Period. Like, nobody needs a period on social media. We know the sentences. We all can't be humble like Joe Coy and tell reporters, my relatable comedy is just getting me to sell out a ring. And see, and this is what I'm talking about.    Well, the last time, so I got an interview, go, hey, I got a great headline for you. My relatable comedy is the reason why I sell arenas. Who got this? Someone wrote it. It was in the PR. The rap. See what you did? Now it's my PR guy. And now it's going to be, it's going to go. It's going to go to the point where it's my mom. Suggested. My mom. Hey, did you hear about Joe Coy's mom? She told him to tell everyone that her relatable comedy is the reason why he's selling out arenas. That was a hell of a headline, though. But this is a headline or it's like the sheet that you get when I guess it's coming in? No, it was a headline in an article. They wrote an article about him. It just came out like 15 hours ago and it said, Joe Coy's relatable comedy helps him sell out arenas. So that's it. Yeah. I don't know if it's the relatability that does it, but you have to be like, who's going to like not relate? I'm going to go sit in a room and not relate for two hours. Is there any way I can not understand what you're saying for two hours? I'd like to disagree about everything. I like that, though. I'm the guy that'll click on the Netflix special with somebody I don't know. Yeah. Because I just want to hear a totally different perspective on something. You know what I'm saying? I'm that person. Yeah, I'm not. Really? Yeah, like I like a different perspective, but I'm not dedicating two hours. You know what I mean? Like you could, you got your attention span is 15 minutes. You give him 15 minutes. You know what? My attention span for a stranger is very short. Mine too. For something I love. Yeah. It's long. Yeah. You know, like I can watch seasons of, you know, Game of Thrones and all these things that is never enough and then like watch a review of the show that I just watched. But if it's a brand new idea or topic, that's what I love about like the Joe Rogan clips that he has. I don't know if I want to listen to a whole episode with the guests, but if I listen to a seven minute clip, I'm like, okay, this guy's smart. Where's the whole episode? Yeah, that makes me feel like I'm hearing stuff out of context though. You know what I'm saying? You might. You might. But like you post the clips on Instagram from Breakfast Club and then if there's something interesting or unique or wild and I'm like, okay, boom, I got to go get that on YouTube. I don't know if I want to watch a whole cash doll interview. I don't know who that is. I just do it for views. I only post them on Instagram for views.  I look at everything as separate entities now. Like I know we live in this world where we try to connect everything. I don't look at it like that no more. I treat Twitter like Twitter. Instagram like Instagram. YouTube like YouTube. And that's that. Yeah, anyone that posts an Instagram on their Twitter, I unfollow you. That's that guy right here. Oh, no you don't. Yeah, he does. Do you really? Yes, he does. I think that is the laziest person on Twitter. It is.  But I always knew that.  The same picture is already in his phone. Yeah. He couldn't just put it on Twitter. No, you know why. I know, but every time I'm on this show, every time I think I'm the only one where Charlamagne is the late one. Today he was 25 minutes late.  Like he doesn't give two shits. Joe, I'm checking out. It's almost over. It's done. Yeah. It's almost over. It's almost over. Enjoy it while it lasts. How much longer? Two years. Yeah, man. One year. Six months. Are you going to have a press conference? No. What? Why? I don't know. I'm staring at your sweatshirt trying to see if this is a mental health shirt or not. Yeah, it says anxiety on it. Oh, it does. Absolutely, it says anxiety. This guy has more mental health apparel. Yeah. That I don't sell.  That I don't sell. That I don't sell. You don't sell? No. That's good. I just wait. Remember when we were talking earlier about mental health? I got a good idea for you, by the way. And normalizing the stigma? Yes. That's how you normalize it.  By putting it on our clothes. Yeah. That's our last matter.  You remember the Got Milk? If you come out with a shirt that says Crazy?  I don't think I would ever do that. I think I have like a light mustache. Got crazy? I don't think I would ever do that unless the proceeds went to something. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I couldn't see myself like capitalizing on that merchandise. That wouldn't seem right. You know what I mean?  Oh, there are. There are people that, yeah, man, there are some. But I love, like I told you, man. You inspired me to talk about my brother, man. And it's just a huge weight off my chest, bro.  Why? What happened? Because I used to, you know, I told Charlamagne earlier, I talked about my brother one time. It was on Aisha Tyler's pod and I just broke down and started crying because I couldn't believe I finally talked about it.  And I always just talk about my sisters. And, you know, and then finally I started talking about my brother. And now I just really want to open up about it because of you. But what's wrong with him? Uh, he's got schizophrenia and he's in a hospital. You and Shaltz? Come on, bro. Same as he is. Shaltz brother. Oh, really? Shaltz brother swung a punch at me, man. Oh, yeah. Did he? Yeah. You deserved it. He wasn't, he wasn't crazy there.  Don't blame that on Shaltz. Yeah, that has nothing to do with his multiple persons. Hey, hey, hey.  They were all the creeps. All of them. All of them. All of them were in a huddle like this. All seven were in a huddle like this. Like, let's knock this motherfucker out. You ready, guys? Go. Go. Yo, you know how crazy that is if all seven voices are talking? All of them are saying punch him. Yeah. Punch that motherfucker. Punch him. Yo, you know how that's true? There was no hesitant character. One was a professor. One's a doctor. The other one's a cop.   Oh, my God, man. 100%. Yo, this is true. I'm so proud of your brother. I'm so proud of your brother. You're not the only one. I want you to bring him here more often if you could.  Jesus Christ. He's going to watch this and be like, hey, hey, I told y'all. Y'all are the people in his head. Yeah. I wish he had like a line too. Like when he hit. Oh, he did. Oh, he did. What he said. He did. He's beautiful. What is Charlemagne's name? I'm sitting here. He leaned in. He goes, this is God. That was the line. He did. Oh, my God. This is God? This is God. No, but think about it. What is Charlemagne's name? His name is Charlemagne the God. The God. Right? So imagine someone leaned in and it was like, nah, this is God. This is God. This is God. And he was right. Don't you try to be God. I'll show you God. Well, God got to be a little bit quicker. You know what I'm saying? That's the scene of the movie. You need to write this in the movie. Charlemagne. Yes. I'm the God. By the way, when people start screaming about God in public. It's going to be a problem. Oh, absolutely. 100%. 100%. When people start screaming about God in public in a way like that, you might need to be a little alert. I believe that. Be alert. 100%. 100%. My brother, when he talks, man, and I was telling Charlemagne earlier, it's like, he'll give you a window, just a small window. He'll crack it open and be like, there's Robert. That's my, that's teenage Robert right there. And I loved him. Yeah. And then he'll close it real quick on you. Is he on medication? Fuck. Yeah. He's in a, he's in a hospital. So, uh, he's not, he's not going to, and he knows how to, here's what's crazy too.  He knows how to manipulate. He knows how to manipulate the system. So, so you got to be saying to be able to do something like that. That's what's confusing to me. What do you mean to manipulate the system? Okay. So he knows that he needs his medication and he knows that he needs help. So, uh, but the system will only let him in for a certain amount of months.  And then when he's back out, that's when he go, he goes crazy. Then he has to do something. Yeah. He has to physically hurt somebody, steal somebody that way. And then the court sends him back in. But see what's crazy is he knows he has to do that. He knows that's the only way he's going to get his medicine. He knows that's the best place to get food and get, and have a, you know, he lives in Seattle. So that's, that's a nice warm place to sleep. So he has to do that. I wonder if he knows that he really just can't control himself when he's not in that. That's what I was thinking too. They're aware on some level, like there's, this is the most amazing thing in the world is that even in someone who's like going through bouts of like hysteria, they're basically crazy. Yeah. There is like a like yearning to survive still. Like no matter how dark. Oh yeah. You want to live. Yep. You want to survive. Yeah. You don't want to take your life. You don't want to take your life. Exactly. And you realize, okay, if I keep on doing this, going down this crazy path, I might either take my life or might put my life so much in danger that it might end. Where can I be safe? Hospital. Hospital. Yep. Yeah.  If they were in the hospital and they're not on their meds, wouldn't just the natural thing to do would be to act out? I think you start acting out more, but also like not being in the hospital is pretty anxious. Like the hospital creates like a pretty calm environment, right? It's almost like, you know how like people who maybe struggle without structure, they go into the military and then they can thrive because they have this structure, right? The hospital kind of presents them with that. Food is there. Everything's there. They don't have to socialize if they don't want to.  It's just going to heighten that. You feel more and more isolated. You? Yeah. In a lot of ways. Like I think I'm more socially awkward, but we're forced to be around people every day and forced to engage people every day. How are you socially awkward?  You don't see me anywhere, Shos. Like honestly, out of this, where do you see me? Wait, are you talking about socially awkward when there's a group of people? How much do I need to see you? Yeah. Because socially awkward, like when you engage conversational, when you conversate with people, there's nothing awkward about you. It might be a different. And that's crazy because usually when you say socially awkward, that's people that can't talk or express how they feel. Yeah, crippled. Like that's hard, man. I think in a lot of ways in a perfect world, I could sit in silence with people and not care, but I feel like if I'm sitting there in silence, they're going to think something's wrong because they're so used to me talking over that. You know what I'm saying? You feel an expectation to entertain almost. Boom. Maybe that's it. It's something. But I would much rather just not say anything. I can be in total silence. Yeah, you can. Do you voice your opinion? I'm sorry, Andrew. Go, go, go, go. Do you voice your opinion when you're not in this environment? Like, is this like your superpower? Does this make you confident when you're here, like this? But when you're outside, say, just out in Central Park, hanging out, can you still express the way you do? If I'm having a conversation with somebody, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to just start talking to all of Central Park. If me and somebody are engaging one-on-one. But even that is like, you know, sometimes people will walk up to you, say what's up, and I don't really have anything else to say. But they'll be sitting there waiting for a deeper conversation. Or they might even ask me a question and I'm like, I might give them a one-word answer, not in a disrespectful way. It's just like, this is the platform for that. Do you feel the need? You don't tell jokes all the time, right? No, no. But I remember when I first... I'm funny all the time, though. I've heard.  No, I think you are, Joe. I do, I believe in you. I do, I do believe in you. Did you say I believe in you? I believe in you, I do. Thank you. I appreciate it. Schultz, you can also compliment. I relate to you. I relate to you. Thank you. For two hours. For two hours. I will be there soon. I love you, man. I love you. Because you are so relatable to me. I think what happened when I first got guy code and then I would meet people after I was on TV, I felt this pressure to live up to their expectation of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then after that went away, there was a time where I could walk the streets again and no one would know me. And I was like, okay, that's the difference. There's a little bit of fame and then there's... None of it, there's anonymity. And then once the YouTube stuff started popping again and people stopped me again, I was prepared for those moments and I was like, yeah, I don't have to be funny every single time. They see that, that's fine. I don't have to prove that the person that they saw on television or on the internet is that person in real life. It's as simple as, hey, thank you, appreciate it, maybe even a conversation. I just figured it out. Y'all made me figure it out. I think that I'm more socially awkward now only because I know it's only certain people who will understand the conversation. Like, you know, that's why we got the group chat.  It's not a safe place. You know what I'm saying? And I know certain people that understand me, they know my sense of humor, they know my intent. So if I'm saying something, they know it's not coming from a malicious place. There's only a select few people nowadays. I can be that around. And that becomes smaller and smaller. Yeah, man.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not funny.  No, that's not funny. That's true. There is like a heavy cost. There's a cost for saying the wrong thing now, especially. And there are people that like actively want to capture you saying the wrong thing. Yes! So then I 100% see your anxiety on an everyday basis. But yo, there's something so refreshing. I hate those people, by the way.   Scum of the Earth. What I've realized now is like, there's a real... Like when you're around, how do I phrase it? By your people. I don't mean the people who look like you, but when you're around like your tribe in terms of like how you can express yourself.  When you stop conforming, you know what I mean? Like when you stop conforming to fit the group setting you're in and literally around the people where you get to be yourself with. Bro, battery in my back. Absolutely. That's it. Once a month, one dinner a month with like the homies. Yeah.  I'm charged. It's like therapy.    I don't have to like watch my tongue or these people understand where I'm coming from. Yeah, it's crippling to walk around every single day going, can I say that?  It's not like we're... It'd be different if we were chefs and we didn't have to talk. You just express through the food.  And you know what, even as a father, it's like, me and my wife have been together 23 years. So this is high school. The worst of me. When she started going to college, still the worst of me. So we're used to talking to each other in a certain way, but now we got these little kids around. So now you got to bite your tongue? Yes. Oh, and I'm a very... When you home, you're a very active person. You got to catch yourself and I'll tell you later. You know what I'm saying? You got to tell it a certain way to where she gets it, but you're not really explaining it the way you would explain it if the kids don't. 100%. Yeah. So it's kind of like it's always this constant... Oh no, I get it with you now. Filter and self-checking. I get it's crazy though. 100%. This is interesting. As long as I've known you, you're the type of person where if you feel something, you have to purge it. Yes. Like you throw up easy. Yes. You know what I mean? Very sensitive stomach for your thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Now you've entered a world, not only at home, but in the workplace and in regular life, where you can't just word vomit. Hell no. Or thought vomit like you used to. It feels like the mics are always hot. Boom.  And your way of dealing it throughout your entire life was just getting it out. Letting it out, yeah. So you need places where you could get it out. Absolutely.  I mean that's what therapy is in a lot of ways, but even my therapist is there for like personal unpacking of things. Right. It's the group chat, man. It's the dinners like you said when it's just us. Yeah. And we can just talk. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And not me, but somebody's throwing out a maggot for old time's sake. Yes. You know? Why do you agree with that? Yes. You know what's funny is when you said how you have to watch your tongue now because you have kids, right? Yeah. But the most unfiltered conversation are watching kids talk. Yes. Because they have no idea the definition of what they're saying. Absolutely. And they're just enjoying it. It's just pure. Bro.  But when it's my son hanging out with all different colors and they don't know the difference between race, religion or any of that. Yeah. Because that's taught. All that learned behavior. Yeah. Now, dude, I sit there and hear these kids and they're laughing. I don't say anything. I let them. I let them have their kid conversations. I remember when I was a kid, I had those conversations. Yeah. And I'm going to let them. You know what I mean? And that's the beauty. I mean, that's the beautiful thing. Like my four-year-old is amazing because she just don't care. But I think my daughter, my oldest daughter's 11. And I've seen her like, you know, we have people at the house and she'll be like, what's wrong with your teeth? Ooh. And it's done. My son? You just brought me. I lied. That's your goddamn kid right there. That's your kid. That's your kid. Wow. It wasn't ill intent. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was 100%. Look, 100%. Don't ever. That's your blood. That was all ill intent right there.  Are you going to swallow that? Or is that connected to your gums? My dad wants to know. She's kind of funny. She's writing. I was curious. I was just curious. I know she was going to say it. What if she turned to you and said, Dad, I said what you told me to say. No. I told you, I'm purging. Now the cat's out the back.  What is in your mouth? Let's all talk about this. Is that candy corn? By the way. I've been telling my daughter since she was three, my oldest daughter, the things you hear in this house do not repeat. But that's hard, man. I said that to my son too. She's so funny now because she'll be around certain people that she's heard us talking about and she'll just be just looking at them. She's putting it together even at three. She's 11 now. I bet your daughter has eyes and it's like determinator eyes. Or the predator eyes. You just see dad and then it says engage. What's wrong with your teeth? And then it looks at her dad. Did I make someone feel uncomfortable today? Dad, is that what we need to do? Oh my God. Whatever's inside of us that's eating us up inside let out, right dad? Let's pay some bills. Joe Coy, I have to leave. I love you so much. I love you too, Joe. Joe, Meg. Tell them about the show. Tell them where they can see you. Tell them everything, man. Go to Joe Coy, J-O-K-O-Y. I'm coming to Radio City Music Hall in May. I'm at NJPAC and Bregata this weekend. Amazing. NJPAC, Bregata this weekend. JoeCoy.com. JoeCoy.com. J-O-K-O-Y. Selling out arenas all over the world. It's really impressive to see what you're doing there. Yeah, they're sold out too, by the way. Which ones? NJPAC. And Bregata. Oh, Bregata, yeah. All right, so you can't go. You got here a little too late. Joe just came here for love. I came here for you guys. Yeah, that's all. It was a little light flex. Dude, man, why do you hate all the time? Not hate. Look at this. Why do you hate all the time? I just snatched your face. Why do you hate all the time? What? Why do you hate? I got that for your daughter. Hey, I got that for your daughter. Why do you hate all the time? JoeCoy, listen. No, for real. Congratulations, man. Thank you so much, man. Happy for you, man. I appreciate it.  Thanks. Thank you, man. I love you guys. Love you, bro. Inspiring, both of you. Thank you, man.  Absolutely. It's literally inspired by you guys. Seriously, what I said to you earlier, I meant that from my heart. Love you, man. I mean it 100% Chelsea.  And we all love you. Thank you, my brother. Thank you. Peace, JoeCoy. You got an author on it? Always. Oh. I don't know why I talked to this little guy. First of all, what did we think of the debates last night? Did anybody watch? Hell no. Yeah, it was more of the same. I think that we're at the point now where they can cut like seven people. Who goes for you? Andrew Yang can go. Is that because of the China NBA thing? Yeah, I'm pro-Hong Kong. No.  I don't know NBA.   But no, Andrew Yang can go. Amy Kobachow can go. Tom Steyer can go. Julian Castro can go. Cory Booker can go. Tosi Gabbard. Gabbard, she can go. And Beto. Beto can go. Beto South. Beto can go. He can go. Keep it to the five. Keep it to Biden. Keep it to Warren. Keep it to Harris. Keep it to the Buddha judge. Keep it to Sanders. Those are the five that really look like they got the best chance of winning. I know everybody likes it. Is Bernie back out there? Oh, Bernie was smoking last night. How'd he see him? He seemed fine. I'm not gonna front. After I watched that last night, I said to myself, I said, man, Bernie might be the safest bet, bro. He really is.  I thought that to myself when it was all said and done. Because he seems so genuine, like he really cares. I didn't like the question they asked him about being old, even though it is a valid question, because the question was kind of like, I don't want to say it was a trick question, but they asked him basically, you know, can he predict the future of his health? None of us can. Of course not. It don't matter how old you are. Say what? The question. You got that shit?  So you tell me if I hit this button right now. Well, let me invite you all to a major rally we're having in Queens, New York. We're gonna have a special guest at that event. Father time.  That is how I think I can reassure the American people. But let me take this moment, if I might, to thank so many people from all over this country, including many of my colleagues up here for their love, for their prayers, for their well wishes. And I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. And I'm so happy to be back here with you this evening. You didn't cut the part where he shouted, I blew you.  No, he did. He said that's what got his heart back going. Blue chew. Yes. Promo code. Play great. Blue chew. He did say he wasn't on weed last night. But I just, I just feel like they should just cut it down to the five. Let those five go at it. Cause I think it's so wack to have 10, 12 people on stage.   Like I don't think we're doing the American people any justice by just letting them talk for 35, 40 seconds and cutting them off. Like how do you really get the normal person? Tell me your thoughts on the Kamala Harris saying that we got to shut down Trump's Twitter. I agree with him. Talk to me why? Because he's not like, you can't be the president of the United States of America tweeting like a Twitter nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like you can really, you can really cause world wars because of your tweets. Like you can really cause civil wars because of your tweets. Shipped markets. Shipped financial markets. He shouldn't want to be on Twitter. You know how we sit around? And we like, yo man, let's be careful. You know what I'm saying?  Like he shouldn't want to do that. Check his spelling. You're the president of the United States of America. You can't have that low of an emotional IQ and have that much power at your fingertips, bro. I'm not shutting down cause of what he's saying.  I think you make really good points. And I think it's compelling. My one concern would be like, if we don't want a president doing that, I think we have to elect one that won't do that. But no president ever has. Right, he's setting a new standard, right? And that's the beauty of the fact that every four years we get to right our wrongs. And I know he could tweet the wrong thing and a war could happen within that time, 100%. But like, I think that ultimately a democracy will decide. My concern with that and why I can't support Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate anymore is it's just censorship. So my whole career is really held in flux with this idea that I should be able to say whatever I want any time. And if she's willing to shut down the president of the United States of America's Twitter, what's she gonna do to my YouTube page? What's she gonna do to my Instagram? I already been shot a band by Instagram. It's like, I got to deal with this censorship all the time that it's just a way of like, not only quieting my freedom of speech, but quieting my freedom to make money and provide for my family.  Like every other president in a state of the union are doing his weekly briefings, which he almost shut down. It can't be policy, that's the problem. It can't be policy, that's what I'm saying. It's very slippery because you don't want to mess with the First Amendment. You don't want to mess with anybody's right to say anything. But this is policy and policy has to be vetted.  So maybe there's a rule that has, you know, more to do with who knows. Maybe there's a rule, maybe there's policy. I actually like the fact that a president can push back against media narratives. I'm not saying that I essentially like what he's putting out there. For me, that's unimportant. But I like the fact that we know that the media is compromised, right?  They're not going to give you the real news. They're going to give you that angle. We know that CNN is going to have the Democratic left-wing act. We know. So they're both compromised. So whenever they're being either supportive or critical of the president, we know it's not the truth. Sometimes it might be. A broken clock is right two times a day, but it depends who's on, right? So I like the fact that as a personal entity, if CNN tweets something about me or does a story about me or Fox does a story about me, Andrew Schultz, the comedian, I like that I can get on my own social media platforms and go, this is bullshit. You want to know the truth? Here it is. But 90% of the time he's lying. That's the issue. We got to be better at venting out our presidents. We got to be better at going, this guy, we need a guy who's going to tell the truth. We need, listen, that's why I don't like Tom's, and I liked, what's his name, Tom Steyer? When Tom Steyer was on the breakfast club, I enjoyed our conversation with him. But guys like that are what's wrong with America. Go. You should not be able to be a billionaire and buy your way into American politics. And that's what he did? Yeah. He spent tens of millions of dollars to run commercials. And don't get me wrong, he was running commercials saying Trump should be impeached a couple of years ago. That's fine. You're using your money to be a compassionate capitalist. You know what I'm saying?   You know, the media's not doing a good job of it. So you decide to buy ads, run commercials, talk about all of the different infractions that he's had that caused him to, that should be impeached. But that don't give you the right to want to run for motherfucking president. Like I think that should be qualifications.  You know they should be in some type of, you should have some type of experience in politics? Would help. I think it would definitely help. I think... At least be a mayor. Let me ask you this though. I just don't think that... I don't know, my whole feeling on being a president is that like, or any political position is you don't have to be good at anything. Like you don't have to be elite or an expert in anything. The one thing that you should be good at if you're a president. Is the one thing Trump doesn't do. Which is?  That's it. So it's like the one thing that I want my president to be able to do, or not even president, it's like anybody in that type of CEO position, right?  It's like when I come in here and I do this podcast every week, I know you are better than me at radio. And it makes me lift my level and I try to get better every single day, right? That helps me. That's who I want to be around. When I'm on the road, when I'm doing at these comedy clubs, I want to be at the best comedy club. So I could be better, right? I feel like Trump has those people around him. No, the opposite. The opposite. I'm gonna tell you something. Yeah.  He definitely was not. Even before... He certainly was not. Rudy Giuliani didn't clean New York up? I mean, at what price? How in a bad way? How do you clean up a place in a bad way? I was here doing it. You were here doing it. Tell me, tell me, tell me.  Just like the way they were cutting down crime. Like, I remember being a young, like 14-year-old or whatever, driving and cops just pulling me over for no reason, getting a legal research for no reason.  They should have pulled me over. I just wanted to hood wrap things for my friend. I was the one driving, but I was, like, just in the car. And it was during that time when they were just, like, really shutting down crime. How bad was New York at the time?  So you gotta go, you gotta take it here to get it down to the air. Hell, you're not wrong, bro.  When I was growing up, when North Face was popping, me and every single one of my friends when we were in middle school got robbed for our North Face in one month. I had eight friends get our North Face taken in one month. That's how rampant just robbing people was. And that's still happening in different areas. He cleaned up Manhattan, for sure. He cleaned up Manhattan. Most of Brooklyn, Brooklyn. If you go to East New York, it's crazy still.  No. No, he did. He went after the mob. I thought Rudy dismantled the mob before he was even mayor. As a prosecutor, that was his claim to fame. I don't think he totally did it, but... Stop.  If the man has done things, give him props for what he's done. Facts.  Because my point with this whole conversation is, why is Rudy Giuliani ruining his legacy for Donald Trump? I don't actually just think he was that great. I think he was the mayor during 9-11, and to his credit, like, he presented a forceful personality that people could kind of rally around him. So you don't think he cleaned up New York at all? He absolutely cleaned up New York. I've absolutely heard you cleaned up New York. I think Bloomberg was more instrumental in terms of... Because Bloomberg brought the money in. I mean, Rudy's thing was crime, but in terms of the development, which is what really cleaned it up, the money coming in, I credit more that the Bloomberg... Bloomberg came about in a time of prosperity, and then he invested his own money into the city, which was great, but you can't deny... Look, I lived it, bro.  I'm talking about my friends were getting robbed on the Upper East Side. We weren't getting robbed in Brooklyn.  People were robbing people. You got robbed? That's Times Square, son. It was basically Times Square. Imagine getting robbed.  You robbed someone there? That was you?  Look, they called Rudy the mob buster. Yeah, he did. It was like... He launched a major mafia sweep in the 80s when he was a U.S. attorney. Come on, come on, bro. He said he took the mob down. Come on, bro. You don't want to give him credit because... And it's up to stuff I read. So when I was reading this stuff, I was like, why is Rudy ruining his legacy for Donald Trump? It is curious.  Bro, they got... I don't know what happened with that. Listen, they got Donald Trump then pinned up against the wall and Donald Trump said, nobody cooperate. Like, Pence said, I'm not cooperating with the impeachment inquiry.   But the Dems... I heard today the Dems said they're not going to go through with it. No, no. They said... What they're telling the Republicans is, we don't have to vote. It doesn't have to be a House vote. Like, the Constitution says you do not have to do a House vote to do an impeachment inquiry. But history is showing us they've always done one. They did one with Nixon. They did one with Clinton.   We not responding to those opinions, even though they never respond to those opinions, until y'all do this vote. And Nancy Pelosi was like, we don't have to. So that's the tug of war right now. So they're still going to impeach. They just don't need to do the... They don't need to vote. Interesting. I thought they were just dropping it. That's what it seemed like. And Pelosi said that yesterday. She was like, we don't have to vote. But that's what Trump and Mike Prince and all of them are saying. Until y'all do a vote, really calling they bluff, right?    They're just buying time.   It's probably not going to lead to anything. Of course it's not. But they have to do it.  He'll get impeached. He'll get impeached. You're doing a trial and all that. He won't show up.   Oh yeah, he will. What you mean? Trump ain't...  He's lawless.   Well, outside of that, he's also setting a precedent with Biden, which I think is quite interesting. He's setting a precedent where he's like, if you come for me, not only am I coming for you, I'm coming for your family. And every one of these politicians, Nancy Pelosi included, every one of these politicians has gotten their family members' jobs and opportunities because of their positions in government. So Trump is setting this precedent like, oh, y'all think I'm the only crooked one. Y'all think I'm the only one doing deals, right? Y'all think I'm the only one... What's that? Oh, okay. I don't know what's going on right now. But y'all think I'm the only one doing deals, right? No, all of us do deals. This exactly happens. So going after the Hunter Biden kid, they're like, oh, you're going to come for me? It's on. And he'll go after Pelosi and the people she's held. He'll go after all of them. So now these politicians have to weigh their options. They're like, do we really want to come for him? Because I might have some skeletons. I loved what Joe Biden did yesterday, though. What are you saying? Just having Hunter Biden do an interview today and a debate. I thought it was great. It reminded me of succession. You guys watched the session? Uh-uh, what is it? It's a show on HBO. It's about a... Oh, I haven't seen it yet. It's very good, but it's a similar thing where they put the family members up. And what did he say, basically? Well, I liked what he did because it took the narrative away from Trump. So now the question is that Joe Biden would be asked about that situation would be based on what Hunter Biden said yesterday and not what Trump and him said a week or so ago. And if you notice, that's all Biden kept doing. He kept deflecting. He was like, as Hunter said, as Hunter said, my son admitted he was wrong. Yada, yada, yada. So it took the narrative. They changed the narrative, basically. He owned it. Yeah, he did. He owned it.  But now the questions came from what Hunter said as opposed to what Trump and him said. Trump said smart. I thought it was great. I think it's still going to hurt him pretty seriously though. Yeah. He seems older to me than Bernie. Bro, Biden is literally... Toast. Yo, granddad. Yo, yo, man, I think granddad's slipping, bro. I think it might be time... Right? He just... How is nobody seeing this? Everybody sees it. Okay, so it is... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No knowledge, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my friend, god. Bernie seems sharper. Elizabeth seems sharper. I just don't think Elizabeth stands a chance because I just don't think she can get enough of those center-right people. The soccer moms. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you're not going to get center-right. I don't see it. But why will Bernie be able to get them? I don't know if you will. It's interesting. So my... Not even center-right. You know, I have uncles. They all vote for Trump. But I remember one of my uncles telling me the only Democrat that I could ever, ever vote for is Bernie. Yo. Because I believe him. Bernie VP is very important. Crucial. You know why? Why? Because he might die. All right? That's what... No, for real. For real. That's who we vote for. For that reason. And also just because it's like... Imagine Bernie... I don't know how it would hurt him with his base, though. If Bernie was with Senator Harris. Yo, yo, what about this? I think that's the most likely one. I would like Warren, but I think it'll be Harris. No, no, no. No, I'd never vote for Bernie. What about this? What if Bernie... And this is what I would do if I'm Bernie. What if Bernie picks a reasonable conservative running mate? What if he's like, we need to stop this polarization. We need to be able to work together. Back in the day when a president was elected, the person he ran against became the vice president. This is early America, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if we change... What if we... We don't have to change system, but what if I come out and I make a promise to conservative Americans that you will be heard, is you will have someone in the White House. That'll never happen right now. You can do that maybe with a libertarian because I think in terms of policy, that's... Someone who's not super concerned, but maybe a libertarian. Maybe someone who can really appeal to the right-wing people and be like, listen, I think this guy's reasonable or this girl's reasonable. I think they're smart. And I want to hear what they have to say and I want to inform me. You know where I'm going. You know my politics. You know what I'm trying to make happen in this country. But it's important that there are people heard and we need to bridge the gap. If he did that shit... That's who Biden was for Obama. Yo! That's exactly who he was for Obama. Alex set a great point. Alex goes, that's who Biden was for Obama? And it was! Biden was the most racist Democrat that they could find. And they're like, I feel comfy now. Yes. No, for a... Oh, yeah, that's wrong. That's wrong, boy. Oh, you did the ADA crack law. We got him on crime bill. Oh, yeah, he good. Let the black guy win. No matter if we plan on killing Obama anyway. I'm serious. But in a way, that's Harris out of the candidates that are out there because she's kind of the most right center. Exactly. To me. And Harris qualifies Bernie in a way with minorities. It's there. I just hate the... Woman of color. A woman. A prosecutor so they know she's not bullshitting about crime. The cops are going to be on point. Say what you want about the cops and how they vote and maybe how they support Trump. But when cops see a cop up there, it's going to be very easy to be like, I don't know if we're with this Trump guy.   But that's the point of being center. That's the point of being center though. You know what I'm saying? That's what she doesn't get enough credit for. She doesn't get enough credit for being center. It's a lot of situations she's looked at. She's assessed. She's made good moves. She's made bad moves. She's made moves people agree with. She's made people don't agree with.   That's just the way the game goes. This would be my counter argument to that. Can white middle America look at her and understand that she's actually center even leaning right in a lot of ways? Or do they just see a black woman and then they get scared? If they're listening to what's coming out of her mouth. The truth to the matter is... Listen, Bernie's getting endorsed this weekend by three members of the squad. Those are all women of color. So clearly what's coming out of Bernie's mouth is connecting more than what's coming out of Thomas. That endorsement, the endorsement from those three women I think could hurt Bernie. He's gonna pay for it too. Nah. Pay for it meaning... They're the boogie, not boogie men, boogie women to the Fox crowd. You know what I mean. You're not thinking, you're not thinking. No, no, no. Real quick, real quick. And actually, matter of fact, break it down. Break it down, because I have a question. It's simple to me. And I could be totally wrong. Yep. Youf. That large swath of new voters. That was my initial reaction. They love them. First of all, agreed? 100%. My one question is... Now you're giving... Now you're giving Bernie... You're giving Trump ammunition against Bernie because Trump can go, he is the communist. He is with these people who are... Oh, this is brilliant. I didn't even think about it. You can't call Bernie an anti-Semite. Yeah. You can't call Bernie anti-Jewish. Absolutely. Because he's Jewish. You got it.  And of course the squad... And they cover themselves. The of course the squad support him because then they get to go see. We're not anti-Jewish. Absolutely. We support the Jewish guy. Bro, Linda Sartor supports Bernie Sanders. Three-fourths of the squad. Cardi B. Okay. So now that they have that support, who is going to be the centrist person? It could be Kamala. I'm going to get Kamala, or I might go get Stacey Abrams. Not Stacey. Stacey's not center enough. You need center, bro. You need conservative. Yeah, but it's a different South. It's not a South. You honestly, you need a centrist conservative, dude. You need a... Who is the... Who is the centrist conservative? Who is the Biden, bro? There's a guy in Pennsylvania.  I think Senator Harris. It'd be that sort of guy. He's considered, you know, he's taking on the NRA, but he's a Republican. You're looking for somebody like that. Yeah. Can't have a white male, man. You're right. Can't have a white male. I think you could. Can't have two white males on a ticket. Only for the good... Trump can get away with that. Bernie, you got to have some color, bro. I think you could. I think you could if it was the right idea. Because now, remember, Bernie's got support from the squad. He's got support from all these people. So he's going to be wrapped up in the color. His campaign, his campaign, his administration would have to be so diverse. It will. You would have to be super diverse. Like, I'm talking about, like, bag of Skittles, bro. Like, for real, like, you would have to be, like, mad colors, mad genders, mad sexuality. Like, if you got two white guys on the ticket, it'd have to be super diverse, bro. And the two white guys make all the conservatives comfortable, right? But matter of fact, you need white Christian guy. Because they're going to be Christians that look at Bernie, and they're going to be like, I don't know if we trust these Jewish guys. Yeah, the Jew thing hasn't really come to the head yet, and it's gone. It will hurt. Tim Ryan. Talk to me. Tim Ryan. I like Tim Ryan. I like these people from Ohio.  He used to play football. He's like a... Win that Ohio vote. Win that Ohio vote. Win that Ohio vote. Yeah, he's like a center guy. You know what I'm saying? He's just a solid dude. Like, I like Tim Ryan a lot. I can't believe it. I don't know why he didn't catch fire in any way, shape, or form. It was tough this year, man. I felt the same way about Gilbrand. I thought she was going to be the one that... I thought she was a little goofy. Yeah. I thought she was a little goofy. I thought she could appeal to those soccer moms. The kind of ones right on the offense. I see it. Dude, that Tim Ryan thing might be a wave, man. He can take on Pence when they do the vice president. I like Tim Ryan a lot. I hope Tim Ryan actually does get a shot to be president one day.  Yo, yo, yo. What about this? Buddha judge. I like Buddha judge.  That might be a little loud. That might be a little much for America. It's a little blue chew. It's a little hard. It's a little hard, bro. It's kind of hard, bro. I don't know, man. That's a tough one to get through. Dude. It might be a little difficult. This is kind of fun playing it. It is. Can you really go from mayor to vice president, though? Yeah. Why not? Because you can go from architect or not architect, real estate guy to vice president. So you can... You know why you feel that way? It's not that worth. Exactly. You feel that way because he's from Indiana. He was mayor in New York.  Mayor in California. Oh, he's ready. But the mayor in New York, you're like, I mean, the mayor in South Bend, Indiana. You're like, eh. And also Indiana as a state is worth that much. Military. He checks off diversity. He checks off intelligent and poignant. But he's also center. He's kind of center. He was very, last night he was very moderate. Very. He's moderate. He's a reasonable dude. And he's Southern. Now you bring... I like Mayor Pete. I mean, I have no problems with Mayor Pete. I actually like Mayor Pete. And I like to...   He understands being oppressed. You know what I mean? Even though the struggles are different. Sure. It's still like... Resonates with him. That's it. I dig it. He's very presidential too. Out of all the candidates on the mic, he kind of has that... He got it. He got it, Beto. I don't need to... Is he presidential? Teach me. He strikes me as presidential in the classical sense. Absolutely. He's been in so many people's oval office. This is a patient building. I gotta pee. Don't scratch that. That was good. If you caught it, you caught it. Guys. Guys. Guys. Coming around. You know that thing you feel every time you pay an overdraft fee. Well, let me pour some salt in the wound. Big banks make their $33 billion off of the overdraft fees. They charge us each year. That's what the Dave app is here to stop. Don't you want to stop that? Dave is the number one budgeting app in America because it saves you from overdraft fees, tells you about up-king bills, and can advance you up to $75 from your next paycheck with no credit check and no interest. You hear that? 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And I did want to have a conversation about like mental health because like I was saying earlier when Joe Coy was here, like people, oh, they go Andrew. People will be talking about, um, we got to wrap up because we got to get out of his shows, but I was talking about... I just took the shit, bro. It was crazy. I laid it down, dude. Damn. Used toilet paper and everything, bro. My guy. Listen, I was talking about mental health and like how... I feel mentally healthier after that. You feel empty? I was just blocked up. But I was just saying how like, you see a lot of people now, they'll be saying things to me like, oh, you talk about anxiety too much or you talk about depression too much or you talk about mental health too much or they'll be like, um, you know, everybody's... Everybody's doing this now as like a talking point or like a marketing ploy. And I will simply tell y'all this, if for so long there was a stigma around something and you have people, you know, speaking about this thing, mental health because they're trying to eradicate the stigma because like I always say, the only way that we can eradicate the stigma around mental health is for everybody to tell their stories.  Like it's just common goddamn sense. Like I hate when something good is happening, something positive is happening and everybody all of a sudden has to try to strike it down or act like the intentions around it aren't pure or say things like everybody talking about anxiety now. That's probably because anxiety is like the fastest growing mental illness in the country right now and probably social media has a lot to do with that. But just in general, people are feeling comfortable about sharing their battles with mental health and they're feeling comfortable about talking about going to therapy and all of that good stuff like that. Why are you knocking it? 100%. I sure wish Chris, you wish that people would talk about Lyme's disease. Yes. Chris, you can be that person.  Oh, Chris, you're faking your Lyme's disease, let's be honest.  You really think Chris got Lyme's disease? I really wish that was the case. Now that I admit it was all the fucking... Genius. Why would you lie about that? You can't fire someone who got Lyme's disease, Charlie. Why would you go and fire this guy who got Lyme's disease? Easily. I don't know nothing about it. I don't know how bad it is. Just like Hong Kong and China. I don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about it. Now, if you hit me with some of the stuff I know, I feel bad for him. You might have sickle cell, Chris. Get him a corona with that. Yes, I will take my corona with a little side of Lyme's disease. Yo, real talk, Chris. Can you just put your pinky in our coronas and all of a sudden it tastes better? That's all we keep you around.  It's days to be like lemon and crisp soda. You know what I'm saying? Instead of lemon Lyme. Who's lemon Lyme? Sprite? Yo, you have a sprite. Oh, you have a sprite. Do I have a sprite, Chris? It's actually plural Lyme's. It's Lyme's? You got more than one. I think I might have that reversed. Get him two coronas. Chris, you don't got Lyme's disease. That's in your head. Really? Yes. Dude, think about it. I don't know anybody else with it. I googled it and your picture came up. I'm serious. Yo, it's pretty rare, dog. You got a rare disease, Chris. Yeah, it's fairly rare now. Is it contagious? No, it's not contagious. Unfortunately, it's becoming more widespread as more ticks spread throughout the East Coast. Oh, through ticks? Be careful out there, people. I grew up around ticks, bro. I used to pull them off dogs, bro. Yeah, it's basically... I never knew a dog with Lyme's disease. Yeah, there are a lot of dogs in New York City with Lyme's disease. I've only approved vaccination against Lyme's disease for dogs. Why didn't they use that for humans, too? They started it and then a couple of people got cancer. It was controversial and they shut down the vaccine, and now people are pushing for them to bring it back, actually.  Well, if you get it early enough, you can. But it used to lay for you? I can send some ticks over to your house. I'm not as much as Chris. I'm all Europe's ticks. I know. Your soliloquy was trashed just now. I don't feel a case for Lyme's disease at all. I feel no empathy. I don't even know what soliloquy is, and I feel it was trashed. I'm not looking for empathy, that's all right. You didn't convince me. Yo, let's come harder. Charlemagne, can you help him with the marketing?  Can you help Chris market his Lyme's disease? I don't want to market my Lyme's disease. Chris has the type of face that you can have a lot of empathy for, right? Yes. Millhouse. Exactly, just look like this. Put your hands on the table and stay as straight as a camera. Say hi. Wait, you keep going and I'm going to just do background music. Keep going, okay. You have to get out of here at 2 o'clock. My name is Chris Murrow. In the arms of an angel I am the face of Lyme's disease. I am what Lyme's disease looks like. It's not Lyme. It's Lyme's. And I have it. And I have it. If you want to help people like me donate a quarter. The 1-877-567 Lyme's That's Lyme's with an S. In the urban community it's Lyme's with a Z. 1-877-567 Lyme's That's Lyme's with an S. In the urban community it's Lyme's with a Z. 1-877-567 Lyme's That's how we got to end this motherfucker.   You must not be if you don't believe in it. It was during the debate. Yeah, that's a little crazy, bro. That's a little crazy.  It was. Let's insert that. But I'm done. Guys, thank you. Yeah, thank you as always. 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