Live from San Francisco, it's theCUBE, covering Pure Accelerate 2017, brought to you by Pure Storage. Welcome back to Pure 70 in San Francisco, everybody. This is theCUBE, the leader in live tech coverage. I'm Dave Vellante with Stu Miniman. Scott Deetson is the CEO of Pure Storage. Hot off the keynote. Scott, great to see you. Great to be back on theCUBE. So I love the nickname. I grew up in a town where everybody had a nickname. We got Deets, we got Hat, we got Danzy, we got Kicks, I don't know, you can call me Vee. Vee. He's, I guess, just that Stu. That's it, you know, so again, great show here. Love the venue. How'd you guys pick this place? So I can't say I was involved in the choice, and this place has a really illustrative history. I mean, it goes back to the 1800s, and actually they manufactured steel here during World War II. I think they were turning out two battleships a week. But another piece of history that maybe is nice is this is the last time this venue's going to be used. So it is scheduled to be brought down to make way for new condos, I guess. So we really wanted to celebrate the venue and its history, just a great industrial feel to it. They're tearing down a bunch here. The new warrior facility is going to be in dog battle. Yes. And so yeah, we can't feel too bad about it because we are indeed celebrating the warrior's success. We needed a bigger house for all those trophies. I think they're poised to have a really good run, but I think Cleveland's going to be there contending with them for the next several years to come, and it's really exciting. Well, hopefully my Celtics will get there in the next four or five years with some draft picks. So I want to talk about sort of the ascendancy of Pure. When we first met you, you had a pretty simple message. It was like, look, we think we can deliver way better performance for lower cost. I mean, boom, it wasn't the same cost. I remember you were very forced. I said about the same, right? You said, no, no, lower. We have the best data reduction technology in the business. I remember talking to you at Oracle Open World about that, and that's fundamentally what happened. And you attacked the legacy install base, and you won that game, but you're not resting on that. You've got to take it now to a next level. Talk about that next level of, well, talk about where you came from and the next level of data, and beyond just sort of public cloud. You guys have talked about this too, right? If you look at the curve of Moore's Law, I mean, mechanical diss doesn't follow Moore's Law. And so the cost reduction curves, we did the math and we said, look, we're going to be able to drive down the cost of storage. We're going to be able to drive up the density and power cooling space, simplistically can dramatically reduce the cost of storage. But Flash is going to help us, right? We've gotten to the point where Flash is, even with a tighter component market, it's cheaper to buy raw than fast disk and way cheaper to deploy. So we save, World Bank talked about saving millions of dollars by deploying pure storage and getting a 5x performance boost at the same time. So if we can help customers pay for their storage, both, you know, in terms of cost savings, as well as new business value, that's a great outcome.  That's very true. I've used your data. I've been very aggressive about that. But the thing that excited us most was the second thing you said, which was the business impact, the business value. So I want to come back a little bit again to history, it used to be, I would buy EMC for block and NetApp for file. You're sort of attacking that premise. Talk about that. So we started in the performance end of the storage market, which is dominated by block because we knew that one was going to be the first to shift to all flash. And, you know, we've already seen that play out. I mean, even the legacy vendors in their install base are inclined to use flash because it's actually cheaper than 15K disk to put in. But one of the, you know, that tech is about to hit a wall because as SSDs get bigger, you know, we've grown SSDs almost 400 fold since Pure got started, but we haven't changed the pipe, right? So if you make a vessel 400 times larger, but you have the same pipe going in and out of it, you're losing a lot of access to data. This is this new sea change to new protocols where we're shedding all of the disk. And I think the second big change is we're bringing this same wave to big data, right? So we've been playing in the block market now, we're playing in the file and object market because big data workloads, especially those that require deep learning, you just need massively parallel storage and you're never going to be able to get that with 20 plus year old storage designs. So Scott, when you talk to your customers, especially when you're talking to C-suite, how does storage fit into that discussion? I loved in the keynote, there's a lot of discussion of next generation applications, everything from the buzzwords of the AI and ML type pieces out there. But what are the big challenges that your customer's facing and how much is it a storage discussion? How much is it kind of that digital transformation? Yeah, I think we see all of it. We'll talk to customers that find, they can't innovate quickly, right? And they want to get so much more value from their data. One of the studies we cited in the keynote today was 80% of companies think they could make 20% more on the top line if they could just get insights out of their current data. I mean, that's a staggering statistic, 20% top line for every company if they could just get more out of their data. We want to make that possible, right? They're constrained with very expensive legacy technologies that they simply can't give them the access to the data. They don't have the performance to mine those insights. And the infrastructure is so cumbersome, they just can't evolve and move their business forward. And so providing that recipe, giving customers the ability to get dramatically more value out of their data and do it for lower cost is working. Yeah, and it's been interesting to watch kind of the data center to the cloud and now cloud to the edge and you've got solutions that are spanning across them. How do you see that maturing and really the vision to expand where it pure fits in the discussion? So from early on, we targeted the cloud market because we knew that this is where the future lies, right? Even traditional enterprises still want all the benefits of the cloud inside of their own IT environment. And when you say cloud, you mean it's SaaS providers, service providers as well as- So we talk about the model that the big three are using, but this is very popular in many other clouds. The world is not moving to three data centers. Companies like Apple and Facebook are very committed to their own data center investment. And we seek to be a supplier to that consumer internet. The software as a service and infrastructure as a service of providers because that's where the data center is going. But what we've seen recently with the proliferation of internet of things and sensor data is customers are just growing these huge data footprints that are just too big to move across public networks. So we talked about in the keynote in three years, only one out of every 20 bytes that's generated can fit on the internet that year, right? So- 2.5 out of 50, I think- 2.5 out of 50 set of bytes, 50 set of bytes will be produced that year, but only 2.5 is going to be transferred across the internet for the entire year. So we've got to get better. As an industry, helping customers capture that data where it's generated, right? So that's what we call that edge. Sometimes it'll be on the devices or it'll be in data centers that are close to the edge. And they've got to mine insights from it right there. You know, one of the- Absolutely. One of the exciting demos we're showing here is actually AI coprocessing with the public cloud. So we've got an edge data center that we're running deep learning in, but then we're selecting particular data sets through that deep learning to transfer it up to the public cloud for more machine learning. Those key nuggets, the needles may be a transfer because otherwise it's too expensive to transfer all the data. You can't transfer all of it. So if it's a self-driving car, you know, if I'm just routinely driving along, no big deal, you keep the data. But if I slam on the brakes because the dog's in the crosswalk, that's the thing you want to do the training on. That can't be an asynchronous operation, right? So, okay, you're already getting the hook. I can't believe it. He just got here, but we got some, Qib was a comfortable place, we got to throw some hard questions at you. So Stu asked me the other day, or actually today, who's going to reach a billion dollars first? And you don't have to predict, you can leave that to us. Nutanix or Pure? Okay, so talk about HCI. You made some comments up on stage about hyperconverged. Said, you know, it's good for its own specific use cases. What's your point of view on that? Oh, so first of all, Nutanix has built a great business. Awesome, yeah, sure. And we're absolutely fans. I will say in the markets, those two new markets that we're playing in, in the cloud market, and in the next gen applications and deep learning, we don't see hyperconverged infrastructure. We do see hyperconverged in business and enterprises, but it's usually the smaller scale deployments. The reason is, at scale, you don't want to co-locate applications, data and storage all in a single tier. It limits the ability to easily scale independently. You know, if you need more capacity, you need more application compute versus data compute. You want to be able to flex those independently, which is why all the big clouds and enterprise data centers run converged rather than hyperconverged. But the change that's coming is fast networks are changing this even more, right? So what I believe going to turn hyperconverged inside out is it's now more efficient to access remote storage than it is the same, the storage on your local chassis. And that's because we're offloading compute to the server NIC cards on there. So these new protocols, NVME over fabrics, are actually making the network finally really the computer. There's no longer a chassis that's even meaning... Big fan of that infrastructure and NVME over fabric. Okay, next tough question is, the narrative is it from the big guy, EMC in particular, pure small, they're losing money. And your return narrative is Dell EMC, they're large, they're slow, they're outdated and confused. Okay, we love that.  But here's my question. A lot of customers are large and slow and outdated and confused.  So I think it's happening. I mean, customers just want technology to be made easily. I mean, one of the disruptors that's really helped is the AWS user experience, right? AWS has reset the bar for IT everywhere because people are like, why am I paying for consultants to visit my data center and take care of this mainframe or client server error technology that used to be so expensive, you know, consultants coming along with it and permanently staying with it was okay. That's not okay, right? The world needs to move to self-driving infrastructure and they need radically better performance if they're going to use these new techniques. And so I think the key motivation is, customers need to get more value from their data and they need to drive down cost. And we're in this sweet spot of being able to provide it and these 20 plus year old designs can't, there's no way. So it's inevitable is really what I'm taking away from that and you've got a lead that you can sustain in your view. You know, it's been very interesting to watch our competitors talk about, you know, the new Flash Array X with all NVMe and the new Flash Blade. They've said these are science projects that won't be real for three years. And yet we've won one of the biggest AI platforms in the world, you know, where 25% or more of our business is coming from cloud customers. So, you know, from where we sit, things are going exactly as we'd hoped. Love it, love it. We're talking about the edge, you're pushing the envelope at the edge. All right, Scott, we'll give you last word. I know you're super busy but give us the wrap up, the bumper sticker on Accelerate 2017. Oh, it's such a phenomenal group coming together to talk about innovation. You know, we've already shipped the hardware form factors this year with our new Flash Array and the new Flash Blade. But the thing that I'm so excited about is we've got more than two years of software innovation teed up, right? That we've not, we've been very quiet about. So, you know, when you can bring two years of innovation and pack it into six months like we have this year, it makes things really exciting. Well, congratulations at getting to this point. We're really excited about the future. Scott Deetson, thanks for coming on theCUBE. Great to see you again. Thank you, always good to be on theCUBE. All right, keep it right there, buddy. We're back with our next guest. This is Pure Accelerate live from San Francisco. Right back.


I see so the Tribe that you joined which one is that? Kitchenware kitchenware tribe. Okay, but she's a she's a loner now because she left to go and find the manager Ah, okay In that case, I think let's go ahead and start from before you became trapped in the infinite Ikea And sort of figure out how you got into here then. All right, that's good So in the brief like monologue bit I wrote here I had initially put in that she might be a bad tipper, but Karen is more of the type to be more of a Generally kind-hearted Karen. She is resourceful and Will want to talk to the manager to try to figure out her situation as best she can but she's not necessarily Inherently rude to other people. No, not inherently She probably would be the kind of person who like wouldn't tip if someone was rude to her Got you probably just tips normally otherwise and she doesn't have certain Prejudices that we've seen that a lot of Karen's in pop culture might have so she's not We're not playing a racist in this podcast. Don't worry. God. No Cool. Okay. So Karen soccer mom potential bad pit bad tipper Excuse me and the finder of managers she has an uncanny ability to pick out the most important person in the room and Is able to gently demand of them that they Give her what she is do as a loyal customer Or at least what she perceives. She is do yep the home store in the past has crossed Karen one too many times and the final straw was There was a sale on like some buy-to-get-one free rugs There was a sign up for it and the manager said that the sale ended yesterday and that's just Going against every fiber of Karen's being that's just that's false advertising. We can't have that Note to the listeners the manager handled the situation very well and got a hefty raise for their troubles that I narratively doomed them to so Karen Decided to take her business to a different store that was going to appreciate her more as a customer Continued to note. This is satire. Please don't be like this Karen's neighbors James and Sean They had such nice rugs. So naturally whenever the situation happened Karen reached out to them and asked where they got their rugs from and they kindly told her that they went to the wonderful world of Ikea Karen got online and looked through Ikea's catalog of rugs and got so excited that she immediately purchased some And had them started to deliver to her But wouldn't you know it the rugs got lost in shipping So Naturally Karen started fuming after a few weeks of no word about where the rugs could have wound up at She marched down to the post office and demanded to know where everything had gone But no don't don't do this. You get the point So Karen decided she would take her minivan down to the local Ikea store and Try to convince them to give her the rugs that she purchased from there and just to move on with her life So what minivan do you think that Karen would have I had? Picked out like the Mercedes MPV. It's a all-electric minivan Um, I I appreciate your contribution, but it has to be a matte black Honda Odyssey It is a matte black Honda Odyssey understood which is a car I saw in my university's parking lot once and I've never forgotten about it I feel like there's a potential story behind this Odyssey, but we can we can move on Okay, so you take your freshly filled up matte black Honda Odyssey Down to the local Ikea store and as you're driving up. There's a like on the drive up to the Ikea store, there's like a little security booth there for some reason which seems odd for a Ikea to have but you drive up to it and the bar is Pushed to the down position at the moment and you there's a security guard like motioning for you to like roll down your window Hi, yeah, the the acu is under construction currently You'll have to have to come back another time. I think oh Actually, I'm just looking for I purchased some items on your website And I know even if the store is probably under construction. I'm I'm sure that you have a center open for deliveries I would really like to talk to somebody who could give me some more information about where my Rucks have gone because you see I ordered them several weeks ago and they Still have not arrived and I can't seem to get ahold of anyone who has any real answers so could you just help me out and Get me someone who can give me some more information Okay, could you roll to manipulate someone for me, please? Yes, so roll 2d6 and add your charm, which is plus one dice dice dice, okay, so 2d6 plus one is seven. Okay So that's a mixed success. So I think that this person like Says yeah, yeah, I'll I'll go ahead and Call up my boss, but you're just gonna have to to wait right there for now. I guess No, I'm I'm very used to waiting at this point This is taken way longer than it should have you seem not at all passive aggressive about this at all, huh? I I'm sorry I just I ordered them so long ago and I've been trying so hard and no one will give me any any good answers I'm a little bit frustrated. I'm sure you understand. Oh I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be yeah. Yeah, I get it like I've lost some Really expensive stuff in the mail last year to like that. That's great. Can you talk to somebody for me? Thank you so much Yeah, yeah, I'll allow radio My boss right now So as you're sitting here looking around you continue to observe the area around you you don't see any of the construction This person mentioned before and you also don't see any like construction vehicles Everything looks like the Ikea is pretty well built Did the guy in the in the security thing leave? he's he'd like closed the window and turned around and is like Enthusiastically talking into a radio. I'm just gonna wait for a second, but he's not he's not facing your direction Yeah, you'd like turned and then further into like the parking lot area There aren't any like there's a few vehicles but it looks like a couple like black van type of thing and There's like some trailers that are set up out in the parking lot as well Just kind of looks like something weird and as you think more and more about how weird this situation is you think like Did did James and Shawn like try to hoodwink you here or they just like We don't want her to have the same rugs as us So they they directed you to a weird Store, I feel like you need more answers. So he closed his window. Yes I'm gonna lean out of my window and like tap on the glass Okay, he turns back around and like opens up the window. Yeah, excuse me hi hi again So I noticed that there's not any construction equipment actually out here, and I was Wondering if you can tell me where exactly the construction is because it doesn't look like it's The whole building so is there any way I could just go inside for Just long enough to get some answers from somebody. It looks like there's not actually much going on I am well Yeah, yeah, like if you the the constructions on like the the other side of the of the store and And mostly on like some of the the inside I get I guess you can Yeah, you can just pull up towards the other cars that are over there. I Guess oh, great. Thank you so much. Oh, okay Just just wait in your car for for some people to come get you and he's lifting up the gate still like Trying to tell you to like take it easy. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you so much and I just driving today Okay, so as you're driving up you See off on like the right side where the parking lot area is there are the the cars that are parked there that he Told you to drive towards and off on the left side you see Like several garage door type entrances along the side. It looks like sort of like a loading dock area And one of the doors is actually open and for some reason no one is around Well, the loading dock is probably where they would have stuff that has been shipped. So I'm gonna go check it out Yeah, that seems like a good idea. So you drive up to that area there and you see like into the store and it looks like There's a lot of different merchandise in there like there might be some rugs further in I think that Bringing your minivan into the store and just pulling it up right up to the rugs We'll be the easiest way for you to get your merchandise and get out of here Yep, sounds good to me sounds good to you. Perfect. So you drive up into the IKEA store here Fully committed and it probably would be a good idea to bring it in anyway so that no one notices that a minivan has pulled up into the parking lot here and tries to Question that as well. So you drive up on in there as you drive into the store You are looking around looks like the Media area drove into is more of like bedding and stuff So you drive a little bit further and the next aisle down looks more like kitchenware type stuff and then the next aisle looks more like lamps and Wait, I'm driving my car around the IKEA. You're just going straight in and it's like the Shelving that's in there is spread far enough apart that you can like easily drive into there Yeah, and I figure if it's probably empty because it's under construction. So no one's you know Notice anything and you were completely right.  Okay. That is One plus six plus one is eight So investigate a mystery with a seven to nine you get to hold one you get to ask one of these questions What happened here? What sort of creature is it? What can it do? What can hurt it? Where did it go? What was it going to do was being concealed here? I'll do what happened here. Okay, so as you sort of double back a bit to investigate what happened to the garage door that you just entered from like a couple minutes ago you Look down further and further and you see that where you could have sworn that garage door was is a additional row of shelving that has more merchandise sitting on top of it and Beyond that is more. It's a lot of Kitchenware that has now propped up there and you don't You don't see like the entire wall that had the garage doors that you entered through Unbelievable and as you look around more and more you see that the ceiling is actually really really tall too like hundreds of Meters tall it is massive and you look around more and more you maybe Step up on top of your minivan in order to look around and you don't see a wall Anywhere you see some massive pillars that are holding up the ceiling that is so high that small clouds have been able to form And you're stuck in the infinite Ikea What are my what are my neighbor's names again they are James and Shawn James and Shawn. Yes James and Shawn classic James and Shawn Cool they they were definitely out to get you they didn't want you to find those were oh wait the rugs that they had Are on the shelf right there But conveniently none of the ones that you ordered in particular because you didn't want to get matching rugs You already knew better than that. No, of course not none of the ones that you ordered are on this shelf I'm an individual none of the ones that I ordered what nope There are hundreds of them not even the wow Gonna have to gonna have to file a complaint about that Lots of lots of complaints to be had for Ikea. Oh, yes, so to sort of streamline The rest of Karen's time up until the present She spends a couple months within the infinite Ikea. She Takes her Mercedes. Oh, sorry. I need to write down the the car Yes, yes, so she takes her Honda Odyssey and sort of just starts driving in One direction Continuing through the kitchen area that you have come upon here you eventually run into a group of people who are dressed in What looks to be like armor that has been crafted from the different kitchen accessories that are here they have on? cookie sheet like tray Chest plates and they've affixed colanders to their heads as helmets. It's very much fully armored and Prepared for battle dress for these individuals that are wearing just kitchen accessories You learn that the name of this tribe is the kitchen accessoria tribe They're able to tell you that the different tribes within the infinite Ikea here They've had some interactions with kitchen accessoria is one of the largest of these tribes you don't Know where to get your rugs still unfortunately This area that they lie within is primarily kitchen accessories So you've sort of come to the wrong area But you decided to stay with them a bit longer in order to get some information and maybe figure out a which way to go to Find your rugs and maybe find a manager you could talk to that Would know what to do They try to tell you something about like the employees are Different, they're not actually like real people or something but you imagine that no matter what there has to be somebody in charge and Karen knows exactly who to talk to and where to go to try to find the person in charge So you spend some time with kitchen accessoria you While you were driving sort of recklessly trying to figure out where to go you wound up using up some of your gas So you're about down to like three-quarters of a tank They tell you that you could maybe try to go to The automotive section if you could find something there could be some fuel there that you could use or Or something that you could substitute but I don't know Karen seems like the type to only put like top grade Petrol into her very expensive Honda Odyssey in order for it to run as cleanly as possible probably yeah but You stock up on as much as you can before deciding to Depart with the kitchen accessoria tribe in your time there since you were wearing Garb that was mostly yellow and black and had a bit of a sharp tongue and were quite useful in adventuring and discovering and not necessarily looting but Getting resources for the tribe in your short tenure there Because of your yellow and black scheme they decided to nickname you the wasp So Karen aka the wasp heads off Towards where she has been told is the best place to potentially find some rugs It's a living room section. That's not entirely too far away from the kitchen accessoria tribe And you begin to drive off as you are heading further into the expanse of The infinite Ikea it eventually turns to nighttime which you have become familiar with this just means in the infinite Ikea the lights turn off And you're not able to see as much other than a dull red light that eliminates the area You're able to move quickly enough in your Honda Odyssey that you can generally avoid any of these employees that you've been warned about and as Karen continues driving through the night you eventually see up in the sky further ahead of you in the direction You are heading towards a flare is shot into the air. All right. I'm heading toward that flare and we will stop there


Detroit Detroit eyes like how do you feel I know Detroit fans feeling like good and a little bad Probably more good than bad, but still they like oh we didn't lose we didn't lose So you you got to take what that is for what it is But they didn't win, but they didn't lose and the Steelers They went to overtime with the Detroit Lions, and they didn't win, but they also didn't lose, but Thank goodness because this keeps the Ravens atop the AFC North and oh boy What a week this has been The Ravens they get beat up on by the Dolphins on Thursday night football embarrassed So then I tweeted out this morning. I said, okay, go Patriots and go Lions And with the Patriots, I felt like they had more of a chance in the Lions there But still it's any given Sunday my friends as we know this season and I was hoping that the Steelers would fall for the trap game And they kind of did not all the way, but I mean they didn't win. They didn't beat the Lions So this puts them at five three and one and the Lions are what oh eight and one I believe And boy this game I didn't watch it throughout I had seen because I was watching the Browns and Patriots and I kept seeing highlights and all that stuff But at the end of the fourth quarter, I was watching it in an overtime. I was like, oh Overtime, let's go So I was like, alright Lions Lions got a shot. They really got a shot and The Lions and overtime they won a toss they got the ball and they were moving they were moving a little bit but They ended up having to punt the ball and Steelers got it and then they just kept going back and forth But some of the biggest plays in overtime One was obviously when the Lions had the ball It was third and short and the Lions were like, all right, let's just pick up a couple extra yards. They threw a screen I don't think it was to Kali frame. I forgot who it was to but they do a screen and Hawkinson Hawkinson got called for holding and it was like man, so that backed him up and Then the field goal kicker. He of course, he missed the field goal That won't hurt my heart that won't hurt my heart so bad and then but actually a drive before that when the Steelers had the ball Mason Rudolph he had dropped back and he hit Deontae Deontae Johnson He hit him Deontae Johnson moving. He was oh many people missing all that. It's like, oh, no Lions What are you doing? But then the lines like hold up wait? Knock that ball right out Fumble and then on top of that they recovered to Oh, I was so hype man But we all know how that ended and they just well they didn't keep going back and forth I think the Lions only had the ball twice and the Steelers only had the ball twice But it just it just seemed like things were starting to look the Steelers way Then it seemed like they were starting to look like every time it looked like things were looking a certain teams way Something will happen and it'd be like, oh, okay. Well, there goes that There goes that When Jared golf he tried to hit TJ Hockinson in the middle of the field make of his Patrick read it perfectly Oh, that was a nice interception beautiful interception But the Steelers got called for defensive holding There was another play with Mason Rudolph. He overthrew He he well it did it did hit the Titan in the hands I don't I don't even remember if it was an overthrow or whatever But anyway, Mason Rudolph do it tight and jump forward and it slipped off his fingers and the Detroit Lions safety is right He's like, oh, all you got to do is catch it The ball doesn't even had the same velocity that it had coming out of Mason Rudolph's hand because it got tipped So it slowed down a bit so that'll make it a little bit easy, especially in the rain The ball comes and then he just And drops it oh boy, then there was a play where um Jared golf where he was looking to just he threw a check down to Deandre Swift He threw it to him Deandre so the ball is coming. He's wide open But he literally looks up field before he catches the ball looks up field before he catches the ball incompletion and Then a fryer moves. I always feel like I'm saying his name wrong. I'm probably him But fryer moves the steel is tight in I would just call him that the same exact thing happened to him he's wide open in the flats Mason Rudolph throws it to him and Right before the ball gets there. He's already looking up field and I think a lot of players do that in my opinion because Of the situation and and you got to realize this situation. It's like hold up. They think it like hold up We are not trying to lose to the to the Detroit Lions. We're not we ain't trying to lose to the It can't be us we don't want to be that first team where they get that first Oh, no, and we try this is our chance to take control of the AFC North We win this game. We're in first place We're in first place like we used to be down in the dumps this season, but we will be in first place Let's go y'all. So almost think players start pressing and again. It's over time Overtime like this is it and it ain't no it ain't no six-quarter No, this is it over time. You've got ten minutes in ten minutes. Ain't enough. You're done. You're done Unless it was a playoff game, of course, but That's why guys start pressing then you look at the lion side and with the lions. It's like oh We we in overtime come on like we came we didn't come this far for nothing Y'all we didn't come this far just to lose like we lost our last eight and we lost our last eight games in some heartbreakers We don't bend through it. We don't bend through it So this is our opportunity to really do something and against a good team in the Pittsburgh Steelers So guys they they think they start to overthink things and they just they really want to do everything that they possibly can to make a play So that's what I think happened on those two incompletions by both teams but then At the very end that last drive man Mason Rudolph he was connecting with people. He was hitting his receivers receivers getting a yak We're getting a yak Even um, there was one play where oh, I forget. I don't think it was the ante Johnson. I think it was um 14 the uh the kick return. I cannot the punt return. I mean is it Ray Ray McLeod I think it was him where um Mason Rudolph hit him and he started getting blocks He cut across the field and cut up a little bit then he ended up running out of bounds I'm like, oh, it was so frustrated man. It was so frustrating and then my favorite player game Because it it saved it it saved the Steelers from winning Mason Rudolph didn't do anything wrong. He threw it to his tight end tight end was so close to the the sidelines He was so close to getting out of bounds because Steelers didn't have any timeouts left at that point and Then the Detroit Lions the cornerback or safety, whatever he was Hit him ball comes out and then on top of that the ball came out and it's the and it was so close to the to the sideline But it stayed in bounds and it stayed still and I was like, yes I said get it get it get it and then Trey flowers He recovers it and I was like oh Man, I I didn't even we went to the Ravens and dolphins game a couple days ago in Miami And we weren't even doing that that loud of screaming as we were doing in overtime in this game Especially cuz Ravens are playing pretty still all night. But anyway, I was just like yeah, let's go man Come on. And then I knew like it was only like eight seconds left I think I was hoping that maybe something crazy could happen, but it was but I was a content With the tie longer stillers didn't win. That was my biggest thing Longest stillers didn't win and they didn't the Detroit Lions. They came through it. They do for one. They do for one That guy Dan Campbell, I think that's the Lions head coach name No, not Dan Campbell. Yeah, I think it is Dan Campbell. He um, I know they've been talked about a lot But that there was one presser that he gave us weeks ago Well, he he was talking about just how much because the Lions they had lost a close one It wasn't the Ravens game. It was a different game But they had lost a close one and they lost several of those this year But the way that he was speaking and you could tell he just loved his guys and he just felt so bad For his players man, he felt so bad. He started getting emotional and I'm watching I'm like, oh man I'm starting a little emotional too, but this is it. This is a start This is a start. I'm not sure who the Lions play next week But this game right here, it could work one of two ways and for the Steelers as well for the Lions They could look at it like I we didn't lose but we didn't win We we took it to those Steelers. We brought them right down to the way We ain't we didn't even bring them right down to the why we brought them past the wire we brought them past the wire and But we just couldn't finish the deal, but they didn't either so hey Let's take that and then they could build off of that or this game could have drained them so much to where Next week they just come out flat So this way coaching is everything Preparation is everything this week now for the Steelers. I also do not know who they play next week I don't have my phone on me right now, but anyway Steelers Same thing this game. They could be like man. We five three and one man We got a tie with the with the lion And I think I actually think way back There was a tie in a really really good game between the Falcons and the Steelers Mike Vic Falcons and the Steelers I'm pretty sure that was it was a rig or the game went to like two over times Maybe three but two for sure. But anyway, um, y'all let me know if y'all remember that and if I'm even thinking of the Right game, I think I am but anyway Um The Steelers could take this game and be like man We didn't we didn't beat the Lions.  Like are we even really that good now? They didn't have their quarterback. So that's big That's big and they lost TJ White. Hopefully it's nothing serious, but that's also huge Um But they it's all about the bounce back now. It's all about the bounce back for both teams Now with with Steelers, they have a big advantage because again, they're five three and one And they were missing their starting quarterback. So and then they lost their star defensive player now with TJ What when I saw that he got injured The first thing I thought to my mind that the first thing that came to my mind, excuse me This is why gold guys hold out. This is why they hold out This is the reason this is why and he was small for that NFL is a business You you got to try to make as much money as you possibly can And it stands for not for long injuries happen like that. They can change your career like that They can change a player like that. They can change everything instantly instantly So I remember this all season they were saying oh TJ White He showed up at like training camp and stuff, but he wasn't participating in anything He wasn't doing drills anything like that.   I want to get paid.  I want to get paid. They paid him he won and We'll see what type of injury like I said, hopefully it's nothing long-term. Hopefully it's nothing serious But that's that's why guys do it Sign that when somebody's holding out even if even if it's a Ravens player Cuz y'all know I'm a fan of the Ravens, you know, if it's a Ravens player It doesn't really happen with Ravens players that much but when when players hold out I don't get mad at him at all. No pro.  They're trying to get some more money I got no problem with them holding up Especially if like if they in the last year that deal something and they in contract talks or whatever that what? So, yeah, I get it So the Ravens they barely barely barely barely barely barely barely They are still atop the AFC North Doesn't feel like it especially after that beat down by the Dolphins. Oh dolphins just so they took care of us nasty It's so sad that they're the only touchdown that we got Came from being held by the refs. Oh now in this game. It was looking like the Steelers It was looking like the Steelers were getting ready to have a taste of their own medicine from last week when the refs were like Hey Pittsburgh, here you go. You oh, you need to win. Don't worry. We got you You we're gonna have you working a whole lot less. We got you trust us It was looking like it was gonna be the same thing that with the Lions but on the flip side whether the refs are gonna help the Lions a little bit, but They cut that off But this is a really really really good game really really really fun game really fun game So again, thank you Lions Like I said Ravens are barely at the top of AFC North. It is a close division Y'all know AFC North.  So Bengals they want to buy week Browns they were pretty much on a buy week because they showing show up They they I mean everything left everything back in Cincinnati They left everything back in Cincinnati last week. They were like, man. Oh, they'll who? We ain't worried about no old they'll man. They go out there whoop those bingles But then they they come out in this game flat So I football NFL this week to week man It is week to week what you did last week is cool. What you did last week is nice But it doesn't matter anymore if that was last week So 17 games It's a stretch. It's a stretch, but it is also known that it's a marathon. It's not a sprint It's a marathon. It's a long distance run So anyway, this is a really good game. I enjoyed it. I appreciate it Shout out to y'all shout out to any Steelers Alliance fans that are watching appreciate y'all taking the time to watch Team keep it clean. I love y'all and again Ravens. They still atop the AFC North Just by the hair there chinny chin chin so next week against the Bears They they better not come out flat They better not come out like they came out in the Dolphins Well, they really better not come out how they've been coming out all season long starting off all slow and all that Because again, you give a bad team confidence It's no good. It does you no favors my friend team keep it clean. We out


I'm Professor Petroch Willie, Professor of Catechethics at Franciscan University. It's wonderful just to have the opportunity to speak about the fruit, how we grow as a disciple, and of course we do that, the Lord says, by being attached to the vine. And the Lord says there, not only that we should be attached, but that we should bear much fruit, and that's what he wants of us, of course. He wants to do that, and the way we do that is through the sacramental life primarily. We stay attached to the source of life, the source of grace. So that's the main way in which the Lord continually fills our life. Once we go away, once we've received that initial point of conversion, we then grow in a daily love. And the point here is daily faithfulness. Think of it in terms of faithfulness to the three virtues, growing in faith, growing in hope, and growing in love. And all of those three are nourished by being attached to the vine. And in practical terms, the way we can do that, attaching ourselves to the source, Christ himself, who will lead us to the Father, who will make sure we're baptized daily by the grace of the Holy Spirit. With the way we do that, in practical terms, is especially by exposing ourselves to the scriptures, which of course we'll be receiving through the mass and the sacraments anyway, and also through a commitment to study the faith daily. What the Church is calling us to do in this era of new evangelisation is to take really seriously that Christ wants us to grow every day, to grow in that love, that faith and that hope. And so we can do that, especially through the gift which the Church has been given in this age, and that is the gift of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It's not a dry, dusty document to read. It is the source that leads us right back into revelation itself that helps us to re-engage with the liturgy, the scriptures, the fathers of the Church, the life of prayer. So a daily commitment to read the Catechism, to bathe ourselves in the riches that we find there is going to be one of the most fruitful ways in which that fruit of grace can come alive in our lives.


In the meantime, the House of Representatives Committee on Customs has restated its commitment to work as seriously to ensure that Nigerian customs service operates with integrity, efficiency and effectiveness in contributing to the nation's economy and prosperity. Chairman of the Committee, Leke Abedjide, stated this during the inaugural meeting of the Committee on Wednesday in Abuja. Abedjide, in its inaugural speech for the 10th Assembly, used the occasion to restate the Committee's commitment to review existing policies to align with international standards such as the African continental free trade area. In a related development, the House Committee on Interior, which also had its inaugural meeting today, says it is focused on addressing the security challenges bedeviling the nation. We must strive to balance the need for revenue collection with the facilitation of legitimate trade. While also ensuring that our borders remain impenetrable to illicit goods and activities, I have acclaimed the need for effective teamwork and collaboration. I am privileged to work with such an experienced group of committee members. I am very confident that by combining our collective expertise and applying our diverse perspectives, we can make a significant contribution to the success of Nigerian customs service and the advancement of Nigeria economic agenda. In addition to our internal collaboration, we also work closely with relevant ministries, departments and agencies, MDs, as well as stakeholders from the private sector to achieve our shared objectives. For the House Committee on Corporate Social Responsibility, who also had its inaugural meeting today, the Chairman of the Committee, Professor Lilian Orogbu, assured that the focus of the Committee is to empower businesses through a robust legislation that will embrace corporate social responsibility as a natural extension of its corporations through interface and oversight. Our purpose lies addressing the nation's security challenges with oversight, responsibility covering the ministry of interior, the Nigerian security civil department stops the Nigerian immigration service and the Nigerian fire service to enhance internal security we pledge on wearable legislative support in precisely development, technology, robust hardware. The committees are expected to begin screening of various stakeholders and MDs who are expected to defend their 2024 budget proposals.


President Mohammed Buhari dubbed it a budget of growth and sustainability. But Nigeria's 2022 population bill of 16.39 trillion narrow has raised a plethora of questions while offering a lethal basis for hope. The questions arise largely because of the assumptions on which the estimates in the bill are based. Now Buhari presented the bill to a joint session of the National Assembly on Festing but without a breakdown of sectoral allocations on like previous budgets. We will look at the highlights on the show today. Welcome to Business Insight and Plus CGI. I am Justin at the very end. Now during the week Nigeria's growth domestic product distribution of 774,000 cooking gas cylinders to women diesel price, investment banking and President Buhari's budget presentation headline business is take a look. President Mohammed Buhari has presented a total budget of 16.3 trillion narrow for the year 2022 to the National Assembly. The Senate President Ahmed Lawan said the National Assembly is committed to passing the budget before the end of the year. Speaking of the national chambers, the president tagged the appropriation bill a budget of economic growth and sustainability. The World Bank expects the Nigerian economy to grow by 2.4% in 2021. The projection is contained in the Bank's Africa's Plus by annual analysis of the near term macro economy outlook for the region. In June, the World Bank had set the GDP growth rate at 1.8%. To meet the nation's cooking energy need, the federal government has concluded plans to commence the procurement and distribution of 774,000 cooking gas cylinders with bonus to women in rural areas. The Minister of Women Affairs, Pauline Tolin, disclosed these at a clean cooking firm in Abuja explaining that each local government area will get 1,000 gas cylinders as part of plans to promote clean cooking. Fuel marketers have increased the price of automotive gas oil also known as diesel to 320 naira per litre as further rise in global oil prices and naira depreciation pushed up the cost of importing fuel into the country. The price of diesel, which is not regulated by the government, has surged by over 40% so far this year from an average price of 225 naira per litre in January. The 2022 budget of economic growth and sustainability has a projected capital expenditure of 5.35 trillion naira and non-debt recurring spending of 6.8 trillion naira and debt servicing projected to cost 3.61 trillion naira. With crude oil averaging $67 a barrel this year, the oil price benchmark for 2022 has been set at $57 per barrel with an oil production estimate of 1.88 million barrels per day. The budget proposal is based on an exchange rate of 410 naira per litre to the dollar and projected GDP growth of 4.2% while the inflation rate is 13%. But there is a proposed budget deficit of 6.26 trillion naira. We plan to finance the deficit mainly by new borrowings totaling 5.01 trillion naira $90.73 billion naira for privatization proceeds. President Buhari sought to alleviate over Niger's growing debt. Some have expressed concern over our resort to borrow and to finance our fiscal debt. They are right to be concerned. However, we believe that the debt level of the federal government is still within sustainable limits borrowing at specific strategic projects and can be verified publicly. But a sustainability consultant would like the government to look inwards in funding the budget deficit. Currently MDAs as well as international oil companies and other very important organizations across the country refuse to remit certain funds within their disposal to the federal government and we know that this fund runs into trillions of naira. So I think if the president can actually focus on getting these MDAs and IOCs and other relevant organizations to do the remittance they need to do in respect to their taxes and other obligations to the federal government maybe we'll just be able to generate just enough money to be able to shove the issue of borrowing to the ground. With the early presentation of the 2022 appropriation bill and all things being equal Nigeria could well be on track for a budget cycle of 12 calendar months from January to December. Merci beaucoup for PLOS TV Africa. Now that report leads our discussion for today I'm being joined by economists Tunji, Andrews and Okusoya. There are many thanks for joining us on Business Insight and PLOS TV Africa. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'll begin with you. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you gentlemen. Let's talk, let's try and analyze the budget because it has actually generated lots of concerns and more reactions from Nigerians. The president justified the frequent borrowings by his administration, say the country's debt profile is still within a sustainable level. What would you say as we got to that particular statement of the president, do you really think that we are clear or that we are approaching troubled waters very soon? No, I don't think so. I'll be very honest with you. My general problem with the project is that year on year it seems to be the same figure, the absolute figure in dollars. If you run to it, you might do the calculations yourself. Check it all the way back to about 2013-2013. The absolute figure has always been around $30 billion. This worries me not because I do not think it should be spent appropriately, but it worries me because it does feel like the country needs a lot more in terms of investment. We were expected to grow anywhere between 2.5% and 4.5%, depending on who you ask. But I think we should be growing at about 67% to be able to meet the large growing population and also the infrastructure needs that we need across the country. We need a lot more infrastructure, so I think we need a lot more money, but if this is what we have, I think we should be able to use it as judiciously as we possibly can. All right, let me bring in Okusohara in this particular discourse now. The president's estimate is about 25% higher than that of 2021, let's say in 0.08 trillion Naira. But then again, the president is basing his estimate on 410 Naira, 15 crores per US dollar. Do you agree? Do you really think that particular estimate is realistic? Okusohara. Thank you very much. To me, let's look at it from the analysis because the problem we are having right now is the debt we are wearing. And they're looking at 2021 and then 2002 budget. I mean, the last budget before now is worrisome. I don't think it's real because I'm much concerned about going here and there because as of March, we have about 33.107 debt that we still have on ground. And to me, I think he's a no-no for me. So what would you really say right now, this particular presentation yesterday was not as detailed as the previous one? What does this really tell you, Okusohara? Anyways, the first thing I will look at is our debt profile, which I've said earlier that is worrisome. People are worried about what we have on ground. And then just like what I had is that we don't really have enough because people that we are working with directly, I mean the Nigerian government are working with directly, they've no remitted what they have on ground. Let's focus on that one first.  Alright, let's talk to Tunji right now. Let's do talk about the estimated, Tunji. The budget proposal is predicated on an oil benchmark of 57 US dollars per barrel, daily oil production of 1.88 million barrels. Okay, strangely like I have said, of a 40 or 410, 9 or 15 per dollar and projected GDP growth rate of 4.2% and 13% inflation rate. Do you agree with all of these figures or do you really think they are realistic that is on one side and that if they are not, what do you see happening come 2022? So historically, you want to look at historicals now. I don't think there's ever been a time where our expectations in terms of crude oil output has ever been realistic. We've always shot above 2 million barrels of oil per day and I do not think we've ever done 2 million barrels of oil per day. But those expectations are budgetary. At the end of the day, it's what we want to spend. I want to quickly come back to the conversation of debt and I think it's a problem. I'm not entirely sure why the president himself touched on that because debt is bad, no doubt, but the Nigerian debt situation is still sustainable. The real issue is revenue. Debt is still significantly under 30% of GDP which is very sustainable. If you want to check it with global averages, you want to check it with countries like Japan which is doing over 150% of GDP, you would realize that Nigeria is in a sustainable debt position. The issue is revenue. We have a poor revenue generation model and the reason is because we rely a lot of our revenue on crude oil as against taxes and other internally generated conversations. So for me, the issue is revenue. Debt, I mean, if you look at it, it's fine and that is the reason why we still continue to get acceptance when we go to the world to borrow. Our last Eurobund was over-subscribed. The next one will be over-subscribed because we are still in a sustainable place. But if we want to really have the conversation, it is really about our revenue which brings us to that $30 billion on a regular basis. If you want to ask me what the shortfall will be, there has always been for the last maybe six, seven years we will end up coming back sometime around April, May and we'll have to have a supplementary budget and we'll borrow a bit more. I think that is the model Nigeria has continuously used but if we want to really have a conversation, let's talk about revenue. You've talked about revenue. Let's stay on that. Let's stay on that for one minute and talk about what we are not doing right. Over time, Nigerians have talked about the President's administration have talked about diversification of the economy, moving away from just mono-economy and of course exploring other aspects. Over time, we have increased VAT and other tax bases. What else do you think we need to look at to talk more about generating income internally away from the regular oil revenue and all of that. What can we do because of course the government seems to know what is to be done but we're similarly not doing what we should do. The problem is expanding the tax net and I do know that those in appropriate authorities are doing what they possibly can to be able to expand the tax net. You see the problem is we have a very low tax base in Nigeria and very, very low tax base. I think if I'm not mistaken, it was something around 5%, we should be pushing it upwards to somewhere around 20 to 25% to be able to get the kind of revenue we really seek to be able to run the Nigerian economy. The other problem again is that if these people who are in the informal sector in Nigeria are taxed informally, so there are these informal sector ways of taxing themselves that have been spread around the informal sector that is not getting into government coffers. I think government needs to find a way to be able to make sure that each and every Nigerian that pays a tax for putting their stall or putting their shop or selling on wherever they are selling their wares should be able to pay taxes and in those taxes are paid, it goes directly to government coffers. All right, Okusoya, very quickly. Let's talk about sectoral allocation inasmuch as the federal government or the president rather was not particularly detailed about it. What should we be looking at? Looking at how far we've come from 2020 or the COVID-19 pandemic and of course the similarly insurgency that has skyrocketed and almost every other day. What should we be focusing more sectorally in Nigeria? If we were to look at it, I will talk about agriculture. The level of agriculture in Nigeria is very, very low because we will really focus on Trudoi which is not forthcoming any longer except if we are deceiving ourselves in this country. If the government can really focus more on agriculture, I think it will be of help to the nation and to the world. All right, let's get some final words from you gentlemen right now. I'll start with you, Tungi. You've talked about, you know, the federal government expanding the tax and Okusoya talked about agriculture. What more should we be doing even as much as we might increase taxes and of course explore agriculture? If we don't sort out the issue of insecurity that has actually been devoured, you know, food prices across Nigeria, how do we see ourselves doing in 2022? That's a difficult question but I think what I can say is we do not need to increase taxes. What we need to do is widen the tax base appropriately to be able to reach more Nigerians and then we would be able to have this significant amount of revenue that we should be having as a country but the insecurity issue is a problem. It is affecting inflation. I do not know what the cure is but I know that the reason why the people in government are in government is to fix such issues so I'm hoping that they'll be able to fix it as soon as possible. All right, Okusoya, last words from you as we wrap up this particular session. The usual of insecurity as well too. I will keep it the other time but I only talk about agriculture. I think the usual of insecurity is the main problem in the Nigerian government need to focus on now if truly we want to move forward as far as I'm concerned. All right, thank you gentlemen for sharing your thoughts in as much as we had limited time to look at all of the issues but we do appreciate it. We were joined by economist Tungi Andrews and of course Okusoya. There were many things once again gentlemen. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. All right, moving on. On business 101 event planners are revolving new ways to stay relevant in the business world. We'll leave you with highlights and what they have going on concerning that. Unfortunately, that's the size of the show for this week. Let's do it again next time. I am Justin at Tadone. Bye for now. The business of event planning is gradually gathering momentum when the entire world was hit by the effect of COVID-19. If there is one critical piece of information sought after by event players at this time it is the knowledge of how to survive and navigate the storm. Interestingly, that knowledge came in the way of event practitioners who recently benefited from the knowledge sharing training and strategy session which focused on embracing transformation the game changer. The session tagged Esmeralda Masterclass 3.0 was put together by the association of event vendors in Nigeria. Organizers speak on the essence and how active players can buy into it as well as the future of the industry. Change is a constant thing in life. Fortunately or unfortunately pandemic has made us to realize that we have to change and evolve in the ways we are doing things. My advice to the industry is to see the future and almost picture whatever would evolve after this system and position themselves in such a way that what happened to a lot of us during the COVID era would not repeat itself. Hence we must always change and evolve along with the situation of the country. We are beckoning on the government and also begging. We understand that things are biting hard and affecting everybody. But we are begging them to look into this and see how they can help us cushion this crisis because it's affecting us. Imagine where you have to tell a client that social crisis is what you have to pay and the client is saying it's too much. I can't afford you. How then with this event premiums it? How then can they cope? We encourage event vendors generally to stay at the top of their game so that they can transform and get to the next level. They don't have to be stagnant in one particular place. They have to open up their new horizons out there for people to look out to yes. I want to use this opportunity to thank the government so far for how they have helped in the event industry. The exchange rates, the increases it is not favorable at all. We have things that we want to bring but we cannot bring. These are things that can help transform our business to take our business to the next level. But we can't achieve these things because of the cost of dollar.


Member from Kutza. Madam Speaker, thank you. Fear and certainty in death, three very motivating factors. S37 does help address the doubt and the fear of individuals that may be exposed to toxic animals. I'm sure the 2019 season was ineffective as an effort to put out a barn fire with a handful of water. We are here as a part of the International Exhibition Rebellion of the House while you're here. We're now cheaper than polluting oil, gas, and coal of yesterday. If we stop wasting oil, gas, and oil, we can help climate change and create tens of millions of jobs The change rate is open to anybody with observation and we encourage people to participate in democracy in a productive way that respects the wounds of the house and all points of view. The question before us is, shall Bill S37, an act relating to medical monitoring, be amended to software by the Member for St. John's Berry? This is a crime emergency and must be treated as such. We ask that all members of the Legislature... It is violence! We're going to ask everybody to clear the chamber. Please clear the chamber. She's asking. Thanks for all the hard work some of you guys are doing in here. We really appreciate it. Good morning.  Two of them are here today. I live and work as a professional and non-filial. You have seen me here as a concerned citizen, but you have not seen me distrusting at any point. I am here because I'm terrified of my children's futures. You, we trust you as our government. We ask you to step up, to create a just transition. It has passed in me. Have you seen what happened to Puerto Rico? Do you think it will not happen here? 450 per million of CO2 in the atmosphere is way beyond the 350. And none of us were surprised. So it's long past time we did something. You all have been doing nothing. I've been disregarding the future of me, my friends here, my family, everyone that selected you. So I'd just like to ask you all to think of us before the money you're taking or the easy ways of doing nothing. The Intergovernmental Science Policy Platform on Puerto Rico's chief and legal system services, the police that report this month, it states that the health of legal systems, on which we and all other species depend, is deteriorating more rapidly than ever. We are voting the very foundation of our economy, black weekend, food, security, health, and quality of life worldwide. And before it also tells us that it is not too great to make a difference, but only if we start now at every level from our global global global global global. Transformative change, nature can still be concerned. Restore and use sustainable. This is also key to meeting, to meeting most other global goals. By transformative change we mean a fundamental system-wide reorganization of cross-technological, economic, and social factors. In order, the demonstrators are declared truthful. Solving the climate crisis. It is possible. It is necessary. There are no shortcuts. There's no silver bullet. As we know it will look different in different places. And let's remember, transition is inevitable. Justice is not. Let's get to work. This statement is from the Climate Justice Alliance, the biggest grassroots frontline and people of color led climate justice network in the world. They are doing all of the work that professionals who do lobbying in this building and legislators who are doing the work of the people in this building should be doing. It is clear that there's a huge gulf between what we should be doing and what we're doing now, and Vermont really could become a clearinghouse for that. And indeed we have to because even if we launder the carbon footprint of the state of Vermont, we don't have a Vermont sky and a Vermont economy that's separate from the rest of the world. So we've got to lead a momentous international climate movement and we have to propose solutions and give support well beyond the boundaries of our state as is well known in this room. We plan to see all of you in January and to keep this dialogue going and it's really easy to get in touch with us if you're looking for support directly from us. But we really appreciate those couple of you who have stated to participate in the dialogue and we have even more to say. She's just running out. We're going to give it a conservative estimate of four years before the effects are reversible. This is a conservative estimate. We don't really know what will happen when the Arctic ice melts and the permafrost begins to release methane. Scientists have predictions and none of them are good. The time to act is now. The state has set goals to be 50% below 1990s emissions levels by 2028. Currently we are 16% above that level. What is your plan to get down to 50% and then down to zero? So we're going to ask the media to lead again. We're asking you to lead. I don't think we can do that. The state's clean poll, the generation and even prisons are offered as economic transition solutions for the climate crisis to only continue to harm the health of people and the planet. Such a path of extracting, transporting, processing and consuming these technologies is paved with communities riddled with cancer, reproductive and respiratory disease, among other devastating health impacts. These fall solutions for low income communities, communities of color and indigenous communities into sacrifice zones. We cannot move us towards drug transition. Guys, here's the thing. The speaker has a way to chamber clear it as well. It's not our rule. No sir, it's not our rule. The speaker has a way to chamber clear it. It would help us if you would. But you guys have a tough situation? Yes we do and it's complicated. It's complicated by your presence. The first step of mitigating this is to take away their audience. We don't know if they're ready to do this or not. I understand. I understand but I'm asking you to cooperate with us. Not really cooperate with us but to cooperate with the speaker's instructions. She owns this chamber, we don't. So she's asked. She's directed the chamber to be clear. She's directed the chamber to be clear. If you refuse to clear the chamber of this. What is the really concise demand that we've got? We want a just transition to a stable economy for the most impacted people. We want a just transition to a stable economy for all the rest of us too. We want the legislature to lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. Yes! We need a Green New Deal for Vermont. And in January there will be a resolution introduced to doing just that. If there are any of you who wishes to be in charge. It's like courting tax, come on. Well true. But I have to ask. This will be over a little quicker. Good morning. I'm Chief Matthew Romney. I'm the police officer for the Capitol Police Department. Deputy Sergeant Armstrong from my General Assembly. Sergeant Armstrong speaking to the House of my General Assembly has declared this assembly to be in violation of the joint rules. From my General Assembly and the House rules. You are hereby asked to leave the Vermont State House, 13VSA-1902, for him to remain president in the lawful assembly. You may be arrested or subject to other police action regardless of your purpose. If you remain in the House chamber for violation of 13VSA-1902 or other applicable statute, following orders of dispersal are available to you. You will go out to your store downstairs out to Postal State. We'll see y'all in January. We're here to talk to you if you want to ask us something. How long are you going to stay? Until they arrest us. You want to be arrested? Well I'm on climate justice and if that's what it takes then absolutely. Vermont had over 40 pieces of climate related legislation this year and very few of them have passed. The state is a historical major emitter towards climate change that we see only menial action so far. That's unacceptable. I think if not now in just a few years people will be looking upon this and say how dare we? How dare Vermonters do what we're doing now? We see climate change, we know the science, we know the facts and we still refuse to act. And what else are we supposed to do? We try to work through legislative channels. We go to protest, we go to meetings, we do everything. Sometimes you need to get arrested for the right cause and I think history will look at us positively. What's your name? My name is Alec Fleischer. I'm 21 years old and I live in Middlebury, Vermont. Alec A-L-E-C? A-L-E-C-F-L-E-I-S-C-H-E-R. I live in Middlebury, Vermont. We would also like to make sure that Governor Bill Scott sticks to his promise of staying with the Climate Accord even when Trump pulls out. He is so far not really stuck to it even though he made that promise and got a lot of positive feedback. We want to make sure that he stays to that. And I'd just like to point out that Vermont has, you know, keep saying these things but we've made the right choices before. We were the first state in the nation to approve civil unions. That was huge then but we did it. Why can't we go ahead on this? It's so simple. We've seen multiple plans in the last year. We've got the Essex plan. We've had so many carbon pricing bills. We've had lots that aren't regressive that would actually help low-income people. You know, Vermont, we lose a ridiculous amount of our income from the state on fuel, heating, fossil fuel infrastructure at a time when solar panels have dropped 90% of their price from what they once were. So there's no excuse. We also have an incredible amount of privilege in Vermont including money that we could easily use to make new climate bills and past regulations. But we have not gone far. We can also look at this whole room. Pretty much everyone was white and a man. And those are not the people who are being affected. So we can start taking responsibility for the minorities. Can we get your names as well? I'm Carmen Richardson-Skinder. I'm 15 and live a month earlier. This is my brother, Ace Richardson-Skinder. He lives in Middlebury. How do you spell skinder? K-I-N-D-E-R. Would either of you like to comment? I'm going to say that. We're going to see you soon in January. Is your action today connected with Extinction Rebellion? Yes. Yeah, loosely. So is it therefore an international action that you're making this morning? Absolutely. We're seeing it across the globe happening all over. And it's not just Extinction Rebellion. That's just one name. We're also very much involved with Sunrise. We're very much involved with local actions in Middlebury. And it's a very loosely affiliated movement. We're centered around the idea that we need to reduce emissions now. And whatever methods we'll bring about that goal, or non-violently bring about that goal, is what we're willing to do. Thank you. Thank you also. We'd just like to say that with democracies, in this session we were, everybody expected for there to be concrete actions taken against the climate emergency. But we can obviously see that they're too afraid to do anything. And as more of our generation gains voting rights, you will be voted out. We're just going to help us clean up for the staff. That's a good idea. Thank you. Thank you for cleaning up. Sorry about that. In accordance with 13VSA-1901, all those assembled up there to immediately disperse, which means to break up this assembly. 13VSA-1902, rivers remain in president's own lawful assembly. You may be arrested if something's under police action. If you remain in the area, just describe the darkness of your purpose for a violation of 13VSA-6902 or other political statute. While our roots are dispersal or available, out even door, down the stairs, out of the door. You have time for that. I'm not putting those for you, by the way. I'm just helping you out. Thank you, Heidi. You know what? We're cleaning up for them now, but they're going to be cleaning up for us later if we don't get our act together. You know what, what was the name of the bill? Um, number S37. It asks, it asks that the impact on people's health and pollution.  I think it's a better idea. I'm going to live stream myself getting arrested. If you want to get out your phone and do that. You can steal it. Hello. So, we just constructed a state house.  Um, but they, they blew up the system. And we're protesting right now because in Vermont there were over 40 pieces of climate change related legislation with Democratic, supermajority, um, House and Senate. Uh, yep, we saw pretty much no real progress. So, we're, I'm here now with Asa and Carmen, right?  Okay, the rest of the few people are ready. And, um, we have maybe three minutes, two minutes before we get arrested. So, I'll be filming until then. So, our son says see you in January. Thank you. Previously, you declared this a civil to be a violation of the joint rules of the Vermont General Assembly. You've been previously asked to leave the premises. 13VSA 902 prohibits remaining president of the unlawful assembly. You do not immediately leave the area just to strive regardless of your purpose. You will be arrested or subject to other police action for violation of 13VSA 1902 or other applicable statute. In response to any resistance, other police action could include abuse of force which may result in pain or injury. Following dispersal routes are available. Alley, the door down the stairs out your nearest exit. You must leave immediately. The majority wanted to state that as historically a minute's way past what is just and yet only the minimus pretty much inconsequential action is taking place so far. So, we need the legislator to know we're here to know that climate justice is important and justice of all clients is important and it's no longer a time to just sit back and do nothing. We've read the IPCC reports. We know what will happen. We know the science. It's just what we have to do. So, I'll just talk about what we're going to do in January because our scientists see you in January which is when the next legislative session starts. So, we have a Green New Deal for Vermont that we've currently been working on and it's a piece of legislation it's a resolution actually House and Senate resolution that we've been going around Vermont trying to make it as inclusive as possible. You can message me if you want to get more involved. But effectively it would necessitate a swift and just transition towards renewable energy for Vermont. So, a just transition isn't simply just throwing up solar panels or wind turbines. It's making sure that those most effective communities aren't left out to dry. And like we saw this year Democratic supermajority again climate change is not even on their top five priorities. So, how are we supposed to tackle this major issue in a blue state with blue everything and climate change isn't even a prior. I'm very confident that when we look back on this in 20 years it'll be like oh, you know, you got arrested like, thank you. And also why do we do this? I'm 21, how old are you two? So it's scary, but it's um I would argue it's our civic duty just like going Well, that might be the police. Good, how are you? Well when they arrest us just don't show up to them. Would any reporter like to ask a question? It's past time to do nothing. You all haven't done anything for us, so. And also there have been two large student movements recently this spring in the state house and there's been a lot of media coverage but nothing really has come from them. There's been like a lot of positive support like this is something. And also, the charges to be determined later follow the instructions of the uniformed officers. At this time you'll be processed and released with a court date. If you resist this resistance will be met with reasonable force which may result in pain or injury. Any person actively resisting will be lodged in the correction facility. So also I walked all the way from Middlebury to Montpelier we've done what we can and this is just our natural next step. You're going to walk to that officer right there, sir. Hi. You just turn around for me. Do you want to put your phone on the computer? As long as you don't resist there will be no issues. Okay. So we want to do it. And I'm sorry that it's confidence and it might take a lot more than this. Okay. Do you want to do the one double walk please? Thank you.


Testing 123 this is Greg Horton. Hello. My name is Greg Horton kilo six x-ray Sierra Sierra. And welcome to the ham radio village. As part of def con. I'm here today to talk about how to listen to the International Space Station with a $30 radio. I'm an infosec professional by day. I've been interested in radio for over a decade, but it's pretty intimidated about taking a ham radio exam. I thought I wasn't smart enough to do it. It seemed hard. But then when the pandemic hit, I said, what better time to then to do that since they were doing online testing. So I got my license in September of 2020 last year, and I rushed and got my general because I really wanted to get on to HF and do that and I've had my general since then. Other pandemic passions have been gardening and finding whatever free fruit trees I can in my neighborhood and picking them. And as you can see, here's me. This is me on on one of the field days that for UHF and VHF in the past year. So a quick primer. You probably know what ham radio is but just so we're using the same terms. Ham radio refers to amateur radio operators as licensed by the FCC, utilizing allocated frequencies, the FCC gives us as ham radio operators, some frequencies to use with some some limits and rules. If we pass a test that that shows our competency to use those in a responsible manner. Which frequencies are we talking about. Well, this is the main stuff that you'll have to worry about with ham radio we have 70 centimeters, which is 420 to 450 megahertz, which we call UHF or ultra high frequency. And this is VHF, which is 144 megahertz to 148 megahertz, we call that two meter. And this all refers to the length of the, the, the waves. And then your HF is your 10 meters through 160 meters. It's a very large chart of all the bands that we are allocated by the FCC so there's some other things on here that I didn't cover like six meters. There's some stuff also in 2200 meters. I don't know anybody with a radio that can do that, but if you're one of those people hit me up. I'm a little curious of what what you do there. This is like the amateur radio bands, which we can we can utilize to given your, your different licensing. So radios, a big thing about getting into ham radio is that like, it's a good hobby to spend money radios can be really expensive, you can spend a lot of money very quickly on some nice equipment. The handheld radios are often expensive too. They're usually over $100.  But a few years ago Chinese company brought a cheaper to the market a cheaper option. Enter the bow thing. That's basically the bow thing UV fire. Now, you can find these pretty much anywhere I find them on wish.com Amazon.com eBay, and they're 30 to 50 bucks roughly if you're paying more than 50 bucks you're probably paying too much. They have four watt radios, they can transmit and receive on UHF and VHF. They don't have the same limits that most radios have, like, most of the radios you buy will prevent you from transmitting on say the police band, the bow thing doesn't do that. So be careful. People hate these radios because of their build quality but honestly, if you're looking for an easy way to get into ham radio, you can't beat the bow thing. It's going to give you what you need it's going to give you your basic functionality, it and and get you on the air, which is that's all that matters. But you know the bow thing is all over the internet and you can find some really absurd ads for them. This one for example is claiming that this little handheld radio is 120 watts. I would not hold a radio that can produce 120 watts to your head very often. You might might have a bad time. Here's a quick little meme. The FCC being afraid of cheap handheld radios. Yeah, they're cheap. They're, they're, they're useful. And yeah, if you if you don't have a radio I strongly suggest just getting one you can even use it as a scanner even if you're not licensed yet, and you can't transmit. So, okay, so that's radios. So what's a repeater. So we have these little tiny handheld radios and they can get our signal maybe a block or two to another person. And that's all on all in good if all you want to do is pretend like you're using a walkie talkie. But say if I want to use my handheld radio to go 50 miles. How am I going to do that. Well, different radio clubs will set up a repeater, which will take your signal and rebroadcast it on a slightly different frequency. That will propagate your signal that much further. And so the local club in my town maintains a repeater and we have regular net nets on on the repeater where we where we talk, but enables us to get pretty far out and and contact each other when normally I would be, I would be just my, my local neighborhood, when it comes to having a handheld radio so this is, it's a pretty nice thing that an element of ham radio. And guess what, there's a repeater on the international space station, isn't that cool. So you can, if you get your signal up to the international space station, it'll broadcast it back down at a different frequency. And that means that you can, you can contact people I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area through the ISS repeater, I can hear people from Arizona. That's amazing with something that's like the size of my hand. You know, this is a picture of the international space station and where the radios are are located. There's a Kenwood on the Russian side of the ISS and an Ericsson on the European side. So how do you listen to the international space station. Well, here are some of the frequencies. So the you, the VHF and UHF repeater downlink is at 437.80. So that's how you would listen to it. So if you just want to listen to people on it. That's fine. The uplink is how you would transmit is at 145.99 with a PL of 67 Hertz. The voice and in slow scan TV downlink is 145.80 and that's worldwide. And the voice uplink is 144.49 for it regions two and three so that's the Americas and the and the Pacific and Southern Asia. When you're dealing with the International Space Station, turn off your squelch. You don't want squelch to get in the way of you if you're catching a signal. And because the International Space Station is going over you. You may not have that long of a time to actually catch the signal. So turn off the squelch entirely when you're trying to listen. So I mentioned slow scan television. Yeah, you can send images. Well, you can receive images. The, the International Space Station does regular events where they will do special commemorative images that that you can pick up while, while the International Space Station passes over you. So if you have a your radio and you have a cell phone that has a slow scan television program, you can just pick up that signal and it'll produce a photo for you. This is one from when they were commemorating Russian cosmonauts on the ISS. There was recently one for for the June field day that they did, and I was able to get one of those images while in a moving car with a handheld radio. Pretty neat. So how do you track. How do you know when the ISS is over you and how do you track it. This is ISS detector, and it's an Android app, and I set my phone to give me an alert when there's a pass. So it'll, it'll bother me and be like hey in 30 minutes there's going to be an ISS pass and then I'll go okay, I'll try to try to grab the signal from this one I'll get my antenna out, I'll get my radio out I'll get prepped I'll get out in my yard, and then wait for it to come overhead. I'll get heavens above, which will give you all kinds of information about the, the International Space Station passing over you, and also feature some other amateur satellites. Yeah. So how do you listen. You use your handheld radio, and, or you can get a directional antenna, you can point towards the sky. In the photo on the left, you want to hold your radio at a at this angle. It'll get you a better signal as it's passing over. This won't do as well up and down. Not as good on the right here I'm using an Ed Fong J pole, which is a small PVC pipe antenna with with with a wire J pole on the inside. And this does pretty well I was able to pick up signals and make contacts with it, but it's not directional so you're kind of like dancing around, trying to pick up the signal as it's passing over you. This is a Yagi antenna, though, on the other hand, this one is from arrow intense. This is a directional antenna. So this is like if you know where the ISS is. If it's nighttime you can actually see it passing you can see the blinking lights. You can point this antenna directly at it and then follow it as you go across the sky. And this is going to be your best bet is using a Yagi antenna. You know, you can you can track the ISS you can get an antenna you can point it there. But something here we need to think about also is the pass angle. So a pass angle of 90 degrees is going to be right straight over you. A pass angle of zero degrees is right on the horizon. So there is a range of passes of how you're going to be able to contact the ISS and like the closer to 90 degrees the better the past is going to be for you.  And also the past will be just a few minutes with a 90 degree passes. It's about nine minutes. So you have an enough time to make make some quick contacts with people. So with the pass angles, we also need to talk about some basic physics called the Doppler effect. So those who don't know the Doppler effect is this physics phenomenon where, as a, as a signal is moving away from you, you will perceive it as a at a lower than is than if it's coming at you. And the most common real world example of this is ambulances. So when you hear a loud ambulance pass you or our fire truck, it'll, you know, it'll start at a high frequency and then as it goes it goes that's the Doppler effect. That's physics. Doppler effects also is famous for in astronomy that we can tell that stars are moving away from us because the light on them is blue shifted shifting to a lower frequency. Yeah. So, what is the Doppler effect have to do with us. As with sound or light radio waves are just another form of electro magnetic magnetic radiation. So, with that, we have to adjust our radio to better pick up the signal. Now, you can set it smack dab in the middle of whatever the the frequency is going to be for the International Space Station. And you can make contacts that way. But if you want to have better success, what you're going to want to do is, as it's coming towards you, you're going to want to bump your frequency up by by one kilohertz two kilohertz that you some people do like by five kilohertz steps, or megahertz steps. Just to kind of grab the signal. And then as it's going away from you you will adjust your radio to to go the other direction to go lower. This is just to take into account for the for the Doppler effect. Yeah, this is an example in like chirp of how you could program this. So as you can see in the frequency column we have some frequencies there that take into account the Doppler effects you can switch through them quickly as the passes is is making its way. And here's some more examples of what what frequencies you might want to hit when when dealing with the with the Doppler effect. This is for the ISS voice downlink. And the packet downlink and uplink. And this is for the voice crossband downlink and uplink so this is the the repeater frequencies. So, talking a lot about a repeater on the ISS but I don't want to contact other hands I just want to hear astronauts. Well, good luck. Hearing astronauts is very rare astronauts. The ham radio program is in a part of like their everyday work. It's something that they do for fun. So catching an astronaut is, is a lot of luck. Astronauts will plan contacts with schools. So that's actually a really good way for to hear the astronauts is if you want to pay attention to the station ham radio website, they'll tell you when they're when they're doing a contact with the school, and if it's a school near you, you can catch it and listen to it.  But yeah, that's a fun way to listen to it and you might get lucky if you listen to the voice. The voice frequency sometimes there is is astronauts I've never heard any, and I have heard of one person who a friend of a friend. They were able to make a successful contact with an actual astronaut. Most of the time you're going to be you'll you'll use this for the repeater, and so you'll be able to contact other other hands. And the contacts are very quick. So, when I'm making a contact through the ISS repeater. I'll be like K6 XSS Charlie Mike 88, I make 88 is my grid square.  And then that'll be logged as a as a as a quick contact. If you get one or two contacts during a pass, that's pretty good. I'm especially if you're running a handheld radio at only like for four or five months. If you want to have better success, run more once use something that's more of a base station. If you really wanted to get advanced, you could get a yogi antenna that was on a rotator and pointed at the at the, at the, where you where the ISS is going to be and then follow it as it passed. I don't know anybody doing that but that was that's how I would do it. But I definitely have. I have friends who who do ISS contacts who just do it from their base station and they run, you know, 20 to 25 watts, and they're able to make a lot of successful contacts. It's much harder to do it with a handheld radio, but I have done it, and you can do it. So all this information about contacting the International Space Station. It's not just for the International Space Station. So amateur radio operators, like, like myself, like they can do their own amateur radio satellites.  But yeah, it's the same, it's the same stuff so the, the ISS detector app that I mentioned that is for Android also supports some of the amateur radio satellites. You can put those in as well and get get get get contacted when those are passing over you and you can try to make contacts up with those two. But the ISS is definitely the one that I think more people are know about and are into. So, another thing about the International Space Station and the repeater on it is that it's not always up, and you'll want to check the status of it. Sometimes, like a few months back, they did a spacewalk, and they replaced a cable, and then the same radio was down for a few months happens, you know, you. I'm sure all of us have had that that situation where you replace just you know you're like I'll just replace a bit of wire a cable, you know, and then the whole thing doesn't work and you're like, I shouldn't even have touched it. That's the situation, but they were able to fix it and get it up and running. Again, currently, the, the Kenwood is the one that is that is operational, and it's in packet mode right now so if you do packet radio. This would be a good, good thing for you to play with the next mode change is going to be back to a cross band repeater so using a UHF and VHF repeater. So you have time, you can get your antenna together, you can get your radio together, you can start practicing pointing it outside you can get all of your notifications set up so you can catch a good pass. So we got some time to get ready for when they're when they're back up and running. Thank you. If you want more. If you're not licensed, please get licensed. If you haven't taken advantage of the licensing this weekend. There are lots of groups that are doing licensing online. There's some groups that are that are now starting to do in person licensing again. So please take a look at that. If you have any questions, contact me at K6 XSS at the URL dot org, that'll go to my email, and I have a website I have one article up there about the ISS stuff. It's like in spaces, pretty fun to me. And it's something I want to do more of. So, thank you very much and hope you're having a great def con.


The Worldwide Day of Play helps get kids away from in front of the television and involved in other fun activities. Haiti Clotter shows us how a day of play can be a good thing for kids. Paul Bunyan Park and Bemidji turned into a large playground for the annual Worldwide Day of Play. It's a day to celebrate screen-free play, so we're trying to get kids outdoors away from the TV. Through collaboration with other organizations, the campaign helps get kids outside. The event has been a staple in Bemidji since 2009, and every year has gotten bigger and better. We've got free samples of Jimmy John sandwiches today. We've got an awesome DJ, so there's lots of music, and a couple new vendors. The day was full of fun for kids of all ages. They played games, blew bubbles, and lined up for the giant inflatable Iron Man. One of the most popular obstacles was the Iron Man challenge. He now had to try it for himself.  When we left, he was playing on his iPad at home at Grandma's, and to get him out of the house is a lot better than just sitting in front of a TV screen or in front of the iPad. So much better.  Rewards weren't just handed out. Kids had to earn them. Here, kids make a smoothie, but in order for the blender to work, they have to use their energy on the bike blender. You don't have to go walk miles. You can get on a bike, and you're still having fun and getting exercise, and you're not staring at a screen. Last year, about 250 people showed up, and it looks like this year was another success. I think he's having a good time. In Bemidji, Haiti Claude are Lakeland News. Different vendors were also on site to let parents know about their services. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax-deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.