And we're live. Hey guys, welcome to the Charbox interview. My name is Bailey Pearson, and I am with the team that is bringing you E-Glass, and I would like to introduce you to this illuminated glass writing board with a built-in camera that camera captures my face and my writing in the same window. So it's very engaging for anyone on the other end, whether I'm live streaming to an online class or teaching my students live in the classroom, E-Glass is a fantastic tool that blends the content with the connection face to face, and it's embedding my face in this screen. So I'd like to introduce you to my team. Here we have Ji Shen, he's the founder and CEO of Hovercam, and we are the makers of this product. And I'd also like to introduce you to Dr. Matt Anderson. Dr. Anderson is the inventor of this glass board technology where you write on the glass and you put a camera on the other end of the glass and it captures all of the writing and that camera flips the image. So I don't have to write backwards and you don't have to learn how to read backwards. So this is a really engaging tool and I'm excited to show it to you guys today. So it's a real glass. It's like a physical glass. You're not doing something virtual there. You're actually writing on a... Does it feel like writing on a blackboard? It feels like writing on a whiteboard.  So what you see on your screen, I see it myself too. I can see the ink, right? Cause I'm writing with these expo dry erase markers and I can see the ink as it's coming out. So it's a glass board. It's right here in front of me. Node gimmicks or tricks. And it's easy to wipe off? Oh, it's so easy to wipe off. I'm just gonna use a rag, just like you would with a dry erase marker. It wipes off clean and clear, just like that. So you could be writing millions of things on it and it's like durable? That's true. Years and years? Years and years. It's very durable. It's a strong piece of glass. And actually the glass is special. It's very scratch resistant. So it's gonna stand the test of time.  Kids throwing stuff around, bumping into things. So we had to make it really strong and sturdy. So the idea is to keep the eye contact with the students. Isn't it a little bit like the idea? You wanna be present, be right there. Is that a little bit the idea? And maybe G, you can explain that. Did you invent this product? Well, Matt and I met, it was about eight months ago and I always say this is like in met again. So together we formed this perfect circle and that is the E-glass. So we, Matt was inventing, he invented this glass and technology in this, Bailey already demonstrated. You know, one of the magic things is that the writing on it glows, that catches. How does that work? The glowing, what is the technology that's happening right there? We call it a chroma clear or a lumaclear technology and it has a proprietary light. That is injected into the glass and the glass is also made special. It does not lose clarity or the light intensity throughout. So it's evenly distributed. And also you could see no smudges on the screen. Well, I actually see smudges on my side. So these are things that make this whole image is pretty clear. You have one right there, are you using it right now? I'm using it right now. And also this is coupled with the digital imaging and the software technology all together. So it gives you the perfect depth of field focal lengths and the field of view and there's no distortion. And then the glass is just a glass and the camera is there. But what makes this whole thing works is that everything kind of come together magically in the software on the computer. So I'm plugged into a Mac. I think Bailey is plugged into a PC. So I have this right in front of me. So the idea is really you want the teacher's face to be embodied with the content. So when the teacher is teaching in this way or the presenter is presenting, the gaze of the presenter and the body movement of the presenter really direct the audience attention to the desired subject area. And this increases engagement and also kind of help restore that connection that we, the human connection that is often lost in a distance learning, remote learning or a video conferencing setting. So you could be teaching right directly from home. You like you're at home right now, for example. Yeah, let me teach a mini lesson. I think I have a great solution for global warming. Let me talk about it. Yeah, let me show it to you. Because I think if we have fewer cars then there's less emissions. So every family instead of getting two cars, I think you can just buy one car. So let me prove, I want to prove one equals two. That solves global warming, I think. I'm gonna prove that by letting a variable a equals to a variable b. And let me time a on both sides. So a squared equals b a. Now I'm gonna miss b squared from both sides.  So missing a parent there. So, so far so good. I think I'm doing every step right. And then I have a minus b on both sides. So I just crossed that out. Now it becomes a plus b equals b. But wait a second, I let a equal b in the very beginning. So I substitute this a with b. So b plus b equals b. Now this is two b and this is one b on this side. Now I cross out b, two equals one. So I just prove to you two equals one or one equals two. Solve global warming. But okay, so this is related with the global warming. But anyway, you can do like all these, like Khan Academy like 10 years ago was doing these amazing online tutorials. All these millions of children around the world learning mathematics. But this could be a way for the teacher to actually be there and not just be anonymous, right? Not just be a voice. Exactly. In fact, we've found that not only for distance learning, E-Glass is also really good for teaching in the classroom. In fact, Dr. Anderson has had a ton of experience using this Glassboard technology in his classroom. Matt, would you mind talking a little bit about your experience and how your students felt when you were using E-Glass? Oh, of course. I'm still reeling from G's proof that two equals one, I'm gonna have to give up my career in physics. So my name is Matt Anderson. I'm a professor of physics at San Diego State University. I started developing a learning glass lightboard technology about 10 years ago. We started a company about five years ago. And then like G said, about eight months ago, we started working with Hovercam on a real integrated unit. And the problem that I was trying to solve, which Nicholas, you've already identified, is if you're gonna post videos online, you can do it like Khan Academy, right? Which is the ghost hand writing with a digital pen. Or you can turn your back to the camera and write on the whiteboard. And I didn't really like either of those. I really wanted to get the eye contact with my students. So that's why I developed Learning Glass Lightboard Technology. And it was put it on a piece of glass, focus your gaze right there where your students are and talk directly to them. I've been using this in my class for 10 years. I've posted all my videos up on YouTube. You can check out my YouTube page at Yo Prof Matt. That's my handle. Every other version of Matt Anderson was taken. And the students absolutely love it. They love watching these videos. They love watching my face, my gestures, connecting with my eye gaze as I give them a lecture. And like Bailey said, I've also used it in the classroom.  And now everybody in the room, whether they're in the front row or the back row, can see the writing clearly. They can see my face. They can see all my gestures. It's really providing a new level of connection, not only in the online setting, but also in the face-to-face classroom. And Bailey alluded to this, but one of the greatest things about e-glass is it's gonna work perfectly in a hybrid environment. If you have a class, a K through 12 class, and you have 10 students in your class and another 10 at home, if you teach those 10 in your room on e-glass and stream out that content to everybody else at home, now all the students are getting the exact same content at the exact same time. It really is digital equity, right? It is promoting this idea that every student is gonna get the same education. So we're super excited about it. It's turning the whole thing hybrid, right? Because you don't wanna have the, you don't wanna have what happens in the class be different than what you could re-watch later or watch from home or... Exactly, exactly. And Bailey's showing you one of my lessons on electronics, which I teach in my second semester physics class. And as you'll notice, I'm wearing the exact same shirt. To be fair, I own like 10 of these, so. So do you have like, I see you standing up. So it's possible to stand up and, is that the big one or what's the size of the product? Yeah, so we have a 35 inch, which is sit down at your desk and right behind it. Or we have a 50 inch, which is stand up and gesture a little bit more vociferously as you stand on the stage. So either option is great. There's plenty of writing surface, lots of area for you to write your content on either size. And there's a lot of people watching your videos, right? Yeah, there are. I mean, I couldn't believe it. When I started my YouTube channel, I thought, oh, if I get 10,000 views, that'll be fantastic. I have like 8 million views already. And maybe that's not big for somebody like you, Nicholas, but for a physics educator, that's pretty big. And what's the response? Is there a lot of comments all the time, people saying, oh my God, what is that magical device? Is that a little bit, some of the comments? Yes, yes, yes. The first comment almost always is, look at how amazing this guy is. He can write backwards effortlessly. I hate to burst through my whole area of writing backwards. Yeah, you don't write backwards. You write normally, you do a horizontal flip of the image, and that's how the writing appears correct everybody. So like when G was writing, you noticed he was doing that derivation with his left hand. He's a right-handed guy. He's really writing with his right hand that does his horizontal flip of the image. Nice. I'm just really capable. I can do this backward with my eyes closed. So you talk about 10 years, how long has it been going on? So it started about 10 years ago at the university. So I invented learning glass light port technology at San Diego State. There was also Michael Peshkin at Northwestern, shout out to Michael who developed something exactly similar and we became friends and collaborators and we were really pursuing this academically. We were sharing the ideas with people. We were giving them build instructions. As time went on, it became more and more clear that we needed a corporate solution. People just wanted to buy a complete unit that didn't want to build their own. And so I started learning glass solutions about five years ago and we've been making and selling these learning glass light boards all over the world. I mean, Australia is a huge customer of ours, but we've sent it to Iceland and Lebanon and the UK just all over the place. And so the relationship now with G and Bailey and Hovercam is really brand new and it's really just gonna set us apart because now we have a complete unit. The old units, while great, were a little cumbersome. You had to add a camera and a microphone and everything. All of that's built into the E-glass. It is ready to go out of the box and it's just a quantum leap forward. So this could be, you could be bringing this to the mass market right now, like with this, but is this the idea, it needs to be big, right? It needs to be like, but it's brand new, this E-glass or is it? E-glass, E-glass is brand new. Yes. Yeah. This time, Mary with the glass is new and the software together really does the magic. Yeah, we think this is a brand new way of presenting your content. We call it the new medium. If you think about the last time, a medium that came along is the chalkboard and then we have the whiteboard, but consistently people have been writing with their back facing the audience. So this is the first time this is a turnkey device that enables teachers or presenters for business to write together with their face together with the content and facing the audience. And the post audience and the presenter looking at the same content kind of synergistically. So this is a brand new way, a new paradigm of presenting content. And so is there an affordable price? Sometimes the schools, they pay thousands of dollars for these interactive whiteboards, right? Are you in that kind of range? How affordable is it for schools to buy these? These are really designed to work with interactive whiteboards or interactive flat panels. So in the classroom setting, if you're not teaching from home, you do need a preview device that kind of blow up the image. So students will be looking at the interactive flat panel and the team presents from a different angle. The teacher can see the students, but students will look at the big board. It's more like if this is a room and then the teacher could stand here and students can be in the room. And this is the interactive flat panel. So students will look at here, teacher can look at them here. All right. So yeah, they work together with interactive flat panels and I think it's in a reasonable price range. So we really recommend schools should buy these together. You have two sizes? We have a 35 inch and a 50 inch. All right. Is there something in terms of the resolution of the camera? Can it do 4K or is it 1080p camera that goes out that streams out? We recommend using a 1080p 30 frame. That's the most common setting, but you can go to 4K as if that's a requirement. With 4K, the computer need to have a higher, with a higher configuration. So it all can work out. You can record in 4K, record in 1080p either way. Bailey, maybe you can talk a bit about what's been happening. I saw your presentation was for the CES, right? At the event around the show stoppers, right? So you've been doing these kind of presentations at these virtual trade shows? Yes, we have. You know, in this day and age of distance learning also comes remote events. So we have started unveiling this year E-Glass to a lot of these remote events. And we found that the best way to show people E-Glass is actually use the product to demonstrate it. So we're actually, the camera that you're seeing right now is the E-Glass camera. This whole interview is set up with just my laptop plugged into E-Glass. And I've joined the interview just through my laptop. So the setup is really easy and to participate in these virtual events is a breeze. I came in here 10 minutes before the interview. I plugged my E-Glass into my computer with the single USB cable and I pressed go. And here we are. So it's- And what would be the demo? What would we show? Like are there some like some crowd pleasers or something? You have different kind of- Absolutely. Yeah, so what would you show? Let me do this. I'm gonna turn off my camera for half a second so that I can share my screen. So bear with me for a second. I'm gonna select screen sharing now. Okay. Oh, it looks like the video conferencing program is fighting for my camera. Let me turn that off. Okay, stop video. Bear with me. Okay, here we go. Now we're up and running. Let me share my screen now if that's okay with you. Okay. Do you see me? It says the- Oh, there. Yeah, I see your screen. It's a different- Sorry, is this one there? Yeah, I see you now. Yeah, you see me. Okay, good. Let me show you- First, let me show you what E-Glass looks like, right? All you've seen so far is the end effect. Let me show you the actual product. So I'm gonna use our chameleon media fusion technology and you're seeing our software right now and I'm gonna drop in an image of E-Glass. So here it is, you see this glass frame, right? And it's on these stands, so it's sitting on my desk and the magic happens with this camera. This camera right here, and I can even circle it for you, this camera is what is capturing the video right now. And then there's also lighting. You see that white bezel around the glass? That is actually the instructor light. So I can turn those off and disappear completely, but you can still see my writing pop up as I put it on the screen. And I can turn those lights back on and now I can actually turn the glass lights off so that all I have now is you and me. Let me put this away. And now I have your undivided attention. So I can turn those lights on and off. I can turn my lights off as well so that I can control basically what I want my students to focus on. And you just have one of these pop up background, kind of black backgrounds where you are, or? Yeah, yeah. I'm using it against a black wall right here. The room I'm in isn't necessarily dark. You can use this in bright rooms with busy backgrounds. In fact, gee, he's using it in his office right now and you can still see the ink pop. Let me show you one other thing though. Part of this chameleon media fusion engine allows me to drag in content. I can drag in PowerPoints. I can drag in images, content from web pages, documents, et cetera. So I'm gonna show you a little bit of that. First, I'm gonna minimize this. So you can see, here, let me drag in a PowerPoint. Okay, let me open this PowerPoint in Microsoft PowerPoint. Okay, you can see this, it has a white background and it has, excuse me, it has black text. It's a very busy PowerPoint, but we don't wanna show the background. We wanna optimize this PowerPoint to look best on eGlass. So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna drag that PowerPoint into the software. And what you'll notice right off the bat is the background is gone. So our chameleon media fusion engine removed the background and it also changed the text color to white. So I can click through this slideshow and chameleon automatically optimizes the content so that it works best on the background that I'm using. So I can annotate on top of the content or I guess behind the content, but you see how it removes the background. So that's chameleon. It's a very powerful engine and it lets you basically bring any content that you have for your lesson plans, whether it be PowerPoints, documents, et cetera, right onto the screen like this document here. This is a homework document that I have. I'll show you what it actually looked like before I dragged it in. This is it, it has this purple background, white background, the text is all different colors, but when you drop it into here, right, it automatically optimizes the content to look the best on my E-Glass background. So this is making teachers' jobs easier as well. Nice. And potentially you could drive through the sound directly through that screen sharing. I'm not sure if you may be capturing the sound through your webcam or something at the same time right now because we are using this funny video chatting system, but is it optimized for Zoom or optimized for Microsoft Teams or Google Meet or something? Yes, absolutely. And you mentioned it does have a built-in microphone. Yes, Zoom works very well with E-Glass. In fact, if you look down here in the corner, you'll see this little Zoom button. We built Zoom into the software, so now you can run all your Zoom meetings right from the touch of a button. You don't even have to open up Zoom. So Zoom is- Did you hook into the API or something like that to do that or? Yes, we did. We've worked really closely with Zoom. We integrated their API into our software, but don't let that make you think that it's not compatible with other video conferencing platforms. In fact, I'm using it right now with your online platform. You can use it with pretty much anything that lets you connect a camera or share your screen. So both work really well. Speaking of screen sharing, I'm gonna turn this off and we're gonna come back to my webcam view here. Great. I think we'll accomplish a lot. We managed to beat David Copperfield, we can make him disappear, and we need to resolve the global warming problem. I think it looks fantastic. How about Matt? All these features, was this something you were working with before? Is all a bunch of brand new stuff that's been developed recently? Yeah, this is really brand new stuff, particularly the software engine that goes along with this is just head and shoulders above where we were before. And so Hovercam has taken us to a new stratosphere out there. It's just wonderful.  So you have Mac and PC full support? How about Chromebooks? Even Chromebooks, yes. The software does work on Chromebooks as well, yeah. That's awesome. I mean, it's gotta be really exciting for educators, right? How does it change your day-to-day lifestyle to have a technology like this when you teach? It's game-changing. I'm sitting in my advanced physics lab right now here at San Diego State, and I have one of these e-glasses sitting right over next to me, and I use it for many lectures with my students interacting with them over Zoom or whatever other channel we use. But more importantly, it allows you to make many lessons whenever you want. So oftentimes I'll think, oh, if there was a way to communicate this quickly to my students, I would do it.  You don't have to program something, you don't have to create a PowerPoint discussion.  So it has unshackled us from the classroom. But like I said earlier, it also works fantastic in the classroom. And in fact, the students at San Diego State, when they came to my class and they saw me teaching the lecture on e-glass and piping it up to the big screen, I asked them, I said, what do you prefer? Do you prefer a PowerPoint lecture? Do you prefer a chalkboard lecture? A whiteboard lecture? Or do you prefer an e-glass lecture? And 87% of my students said they prefer e-glass and they didn't know why it wasn't in every classroom. We repeated that study at UCSD, very similar results. There it was, I think 85% said they prefer the e-glass approach. So it's just wonderful. Everybody here that has adopted it and around the world loves the technology and will not go back. So we're headed in a new direction. Because I guess, sorry, what did you say, sorry? Yeah, I can attest to what Matt said as a student too. That's how I found Matt. I was looking for physics lessons online to brush up on my knowledge in physics. And I took a two-hour lesson from Matt and I felt like that's the shortest lesson I've ever taken, it was like 15 minutes. And he's expression, he's body language, he's gazes make me feel like he was right there in my living room teaching and writing on my TV. So it's very engaging as I think that was the best lesson I've ever taken. I can imagine for educators it's very important to have the, like to be in the right mood and to not, if you have to fiddle around with all these presentation softwares and everything, if you can just get it recorded immediately, put it out there and the friction is the meme oil to get content done, it's a big deal too. And then it becomes more engaging for the students. And that's really part of the point is this is not hard to use, right? If you can grab a pen and you can write on a whiteboard, you can use e-glass, that's it. You can add all the other fun stuff like the PowerPoint insertion and other images if you want. But at the base level, it's grab a pen and start writing. That's it. Awesome, so and this, did you get the sound out there in a good way? And did you have the eye contact? The face, I mean, we already talked to spoke about all this. So are you gonna be selling this worldwide? Are you just focusing on the US right now or what's the plan? We will focus on the US this year and we will go global, but let's get it in the US first. All right, so there was an event like last week or something like that that there will be one more events in the near future? Yeah, our next events are to be determined, but for now we're looking at ISTI coming up. I can't remember the exact date, but I believe it's in the, oh, and we also have Infocom, which you might be familiar with, which is coming up in October. So be on a lookout for us at Infocom. We're really excited to show you what more we'll be developing with E-Glass as far as the software side. And maybe if we have some in-person shows coming up down the line, you might have a chance to check out E-Glass for yourself and get your hands on the units. So we're really hoping that we'll be able to start doing some in-person events because once you use E-Glass for yourself, you realize just how easy it is and how fun it is. I mean, it's so nice to have the camera, the lighting, the microphone, everything just set up and ready to use, just that detail is kind of important. And I'm wondering, Matt, do you feel like this is the time where there's very few teachers right now using this technology, but it could be thousands before the end of the year, or what do you think is gonna happen? There are probably already thousands of teachers out there using this technology. By the end of the year, it will be millions. Oh, wow, cool. All right, so this is gonna be big. And you're bringing it to the mass market, you're making everything smooth, everything is, and shipping, how soon? Can people buy it? We are shipping right now. The first batch is likely already sold out. Cool, all right, that's awesome. So thanks for showing you a cool technology and there's a lot of things to learn out there and people can enjoy learning in a more... And this is the perfect time to come out with this kind of technology, right? Everybody's, all these millions of students are at home and even when they go back to school and they need to get back to school, it's still gonna be hybrid. The future is gonna be hybrid, right? You need to have all the classes online. Everything needs to be there because and not every student is learning at the same speed. Maybe they wanna go back home and watch it again, stuff like that. This is a future proof product and if you do wanna learn more about it, I'd encourage you to visit us online. Go ahead and go to hovercam.com slash e-glass or learning.glass.com slash e-glass. Matt, is that the correct link? I hope it is. No.com on it, just take off the dot com. Learning.glass. Yeah, yeah, learning.glass slash e-glass. Thanks because this is just a dry erase marker. I can erase it really easy. That's an awesome top level domain. Really appreciate it. And we hope you guys have a great day. Thanks for checking out e-glass. Thanks a lot. Thanks everybody. Thanks for. Thank you, Nicholas. And thanks for watching.


Welcome home back to the channel, Father's Day week, you know what I mean? And we've been doing some smallmouth fishing, we've been doing some walleye fishing, and we have caught some northern pike along the way, some good ones, and there's some nice pike in this lake. So today we decided we are going to do a challenge.  What is a hot shot? It's going to be a weird concoction that nobody really wants to drink. That's the consequence today, so we're going to do a three to four hour northern pike challenge out here.  It is on the wall in the cabin, it was right in this spot. While we were smallmouth fishing, I caught it on a tube of all things. We don't have the best of pike gear, but we are going to attempt to try to get a big pike on the line. The longest one doesn't have to drink the hot shot.  It just seems to catch a lot of pike, and we got some wind right here, I've got some other lure options that I plan to deploy, but we don't necessarily have the big pike gear, but caught some really good ones just on standard bass stuff, so we will just keep going with this for a minute. Any time we've gotten in the grassy type areas, it seems pike like to live there. So we'll start out on this little windy point where I caught my PB, see if we can get on the board with something. All right, I've got me a little buzz bait tied on, I think that might entice a big pike. All right, here's, we're going to add something to a challenge, okay? It's going to be, there's going to be a subtraction for each lure you lose, it's going to be an inch subtraction, okay? That's going to keep it pretty interesting here, we have lost a lot of lures to pike, so this is a game of skill, catching the pike and not losing your stuff, which is definitely going to happen to me because I forgot my 25 pound leader line, I was going to bring something specific for this, fished around some of these weeds where the pike normally like to rear their big heads, oh my god, that was a big smallmouth, holy schnikes, he's still trying to hit it too. Well that was a fun bonus, thought it was a big pike at first, thing was up there around the reeds, oh, dad's on, holy cow, on the revolver, on the revolver, oh my gosh, we have a tiny net too, all right, you got to land your own fish, I'll hand you the net but you got to land your own fish, that's a pretty good one to get on the board with, this is part of the challenge right here, you got to scoop them up with that little net or grab them, hand grab them if you're brave enough, here comes the hook to the land, let's see, oh we got him, landed, let's see, let's see how long it is, 25, we'll call it 25, 25, hey, good job, sexy shad revolver, first one has come on that, dad's up on me but I think we can get bigger, oh come off, oh my gosh, that's a smallmouth, that's got a big smallmouth on, I just had something big hit me, dad had a smallmouth at the full size revolver, that's a big smallmouth, that was an explosion, I almost want to give you points for that but I don't have anything on the board so I can't, alright guys first spot dad, he's ahead, so we've been in some shallow grassy stuff I think we're gonna try to go to some more main lake, bigger rocks, some places we found some perch that we've got pike that have been biting off her lures and try out there because I gotta get in the game man, I gotta get on the board, walk in and go to work, alright here we go, just stopped at a place me and dad have never been to, just looked good, a bunch of reeds and stuff, close to deep water just marked a bunch of bait, oh I got one hit, there we go now, smallmouth, golly, these things are everywhere aren't they, oh my gosh look at the rocks we're on, yeah no wonder, waypoint, you got fish on, there you go, it's a pike, it's a pike, dad with another pike, on the jerk bait it's a little one, what are you doing with that thing, just playing with it, chinkering with it, oh not so little, oh dad what are you doing, holy, god dang, tearing my up, you just broke my rod, I did not, yes you did, the tip just broke off, it's under the chair, with a pike in there and like that, the trolling motor privileges have been revoked, I'm sorry, two times on the trolling motor, I'm sorry, very disappointed, of course I did, it catches a fish, he throws it at my face, breaks my rods, oh me, damn, that's a hard competitor, oh god he broke me off, dang, got me, that is a negative inch for me, oh yeah he bit me off, there it goes had my chance at a pike y'all, it wasn't a game changer but got broke off, negative inch right now, goodness, all right we're gonna try another spot, see if we can get some pike, pike going, it's like all the other bass spots that we fished the other day, they were all over the place, so I think we're gonna go back to some of those, all right guys we gotta make a stop at what has been deemed Rackley Island years ago, half of my dad, he just really liked it, I had it for sale sign on it, it's still for sale, this island's been for sale for like five years, so uh clear water over here, this is close to the area that we found a bunch of perch beds and we're gonna try to uh get that big old sliver in here so let's get it, wind blown saddle right here, gonna try this jerk bait, it's so long that I'm hoping that the fish won't get its full mouth around it, it's a pike, hooked up on a pike, there we go boys, there we go boys, Rackley Island where the big pike's play, oh my gosh, there it goes, he's running, ah he's not gonna beat yours, I think he was probably under that 24 mark honestly, well that never happens though when they just kind of let go of the boat, I'll take it, I'll take it, might be another one in here, this little saddle, you hooked up, dad's got something over here, a little slimer, oh we're in the pike's, we're in the pike's boys, pike island, yeah don't sling that one onto my rods, please, holy cow, I've worn my lesson, dude, I got it, Bill's kind of torquey, oh yeah, it's a snob to smallmouth, he's just sideways, he came off, what is this, looks kind of pikey, it's a pike, that is not gonna beat you, he's not gonna get off, oh yeah, got the clamp on him, look at those teeth, let's see what the needle is, it's not gonna beat dad, I can tell you that, oh that is a 21 inch or minus one, I'm at 20 inches, oh dad, oh I had one following it, oh I got him right there at the boat, that's a better one, this one might beat you, if I get him in, he's barely hooked actually, I watched him eat it, oh baby, come on now, come on, oh yeah, this is gonna take the lead, big toothy critter, oh my gosh, look at the net we have, this is ridiculous, this one's over 26, you're 26, right, okay, all right, don't you go to flopping on me, oh my gosh, those teeth, oh those teeth, he's snapping at me too, scared, really scared to land in my face, but there we go, we got him boys, we got a pretty good one, what's he gonna be, he's gonna be 25 inches, 25 you think, that's a 28, nope, nope, I gotta get him flat, pinching the tail he's 28, minus one though for me, that's 27, one inch, 27, let's go boys, just took the lead right there, dad you were at 26, so I got you by one inch, if I lose a lure we're tied, full-size scout is getting it done, I got lucky with that one, saw it coming and I was able to hook him before he got the whole thing in his mouth, so just gotta hope, just gotta hope he doesn't break you off, got something, I think I got another pike, I do, piked up a little guy, not gonna do it, looks like a treble hook in the hand kind of guy, seems like the bigger ones are hanging in that deeper water, whoo, dad did you just, did you just break off, did you get, I got cut, did you get slimed, I got slimed, slimed cut and that's gonna subtract an inch off your best, oh yes he did, and that was probably a $20 lure you had on me, population of fish this size in this lake is stupid, just hardly ever catch a dink, on again, a little smallmouth came off, another one came and got it, aggressive, smallmouth on the loose, bronze back on the loose, got a rodeo one, take on let me let him break dad's rods, this is about normally when a pike comes and ruins the fun, takes your jerk bait so it sounds about right, fat fat fat, fat fat fatties, oh my gosh I got piked, no I knew I was like this is about the time, this is what happens, yeah now we're one inch off, it would have been tied with you busted one on dad counting and he took a good jerk bait, now I'm nervous, I'm like should I keep fishing because I could technically go down a notch if I keep fishing, you know, you have to keep fishing, that's the rule, that's the rule, he can't just, okay, that's hooked up on a pike, he was a good one, he was a 30 plus, that was a hot shot dodger right there but couldn't close the deal, I might be squeaking this thing out by an inch, that's so crazy how the smallmouth and the pike is just all right there, they're all mixed in, oh man he just had it on jerk bait, I mean maybe I should tie on a jerk bait again, they seem to be hitting it good, oh hooked up, last 10 minutes of competition we're hooked up baby, something big, it's going out, oh it's going out, it's got to be a pike, this could be the deal sealer right here, it's either a pike or a big old walleye, thinking it might be a giant walleye, here you want me to take your rod for you, this is my PB walleye, oh yeah, yeah I got the net right here, we're good, this is my PB walleye, that's a nice one, scoop them up, there we go, there's a fatty, look at that, 24 inches, 24 inch walleye, pretty sweet, thought I had it right there boys, felt solid but hey my PB walleye pretty cool, so we haven't gotten a pike over that 30 inch mark, pretty hard to do on light line but the last 10 minutes of this competition we were going to attempt to try to get a bigger one on the wall, on the line by trolling so we got a couple crankbaits, we're going to go back to this island that had some deeper water where we saw some bigger walleye and I caught my biggest one that's leading right now and we're going to troll there, 10 minute troll and here's the stipulation to the competition, if you do break off you automatically lose, that's going to put me in a bad position but we're going to keep things spicy, I'm going to give dad a chance, it's father's day, last time he lost competition up here he had to eat a live earthworm, a night crawler and he did it but anyway I'm giving you a second chance dad, yeah the night crawler was not good so I really shouldn't because you broke my rod today, such a, anyways, chartreuse and blue recon, dad's got some, some I don't know, some shad colored medium sized crank just like my depth so cast them out, oh yeah boys, oh we're hitting the bottom, we're bottom bouncing, dad's going with the loose drag method, I'm going with tight drag, is your hope there that if one gets it maybe you don't break them off immediately, that's right, if you have a chance, yeah okay, yeah if one of those big ones hits it and just snaps the line, I am seeing fish underneath this big like crazy, oh I got it, I got fish on, oh fish on, come on baby, feels very heavy, I got horsepower fighting against it, I've got one too, you have one too, nope sorry, she's not a jumper, she's not a jumper, oh boy, oh boy what have we got here, it's a pike, it's a good one, oh come on baby, break off, let's go, let's go, oh no, oh go, oh shoot, he got a net, oh I gotta get him with the, I gotta get him with the thing, he's too big for the net, oh we almost jumped to the boat right there, there we go, just a hair shy of 27, it's a pretty good one there boys, it's not gonna, we're not gonna set any records with that one but you know what, we're still in the lead, let's let this guy go, see you snotty, we got five minutes left in the competition, we're gonna go back by Rackley Island over here where we saw some big ones and we're gonna finish off the troll, I'm liking my chances right now but if I break off, it's done, it's done, all right, a little loose, all right, so far, Recon is doing his job, come on, begging, I want a drag ripper, are you doing pump action or are you just straight retrieved, straight holding it, I'm on the beer drinking retrieve, man it would suck to lose by like an inch you know, I know, that's right I'm behind one inch, a hot shot just doesn't sound good, yeah there might be some extras in there too, Ted, Ted said he had some special things, oh my, oh he's got bumped, he's got bumped, we're getting into him too right here, oh they're covering the screen, they're covering the screen, come on, come on, come on, oh I guess what pop, ten, wait a minute, ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, official like a referee whistle, dad, eating some nasty stuff, I got a bite, no you did not, I am not kidding, you're never gonna get him with that, I know, I need to tighten it down, hey I think this fish was almost before the countdown, we may have to go to the, oh is it a pike though, I don't know what it is, look at that, it's heavy, oh my god look at that, oh it is a big one, oh my, oh he's got the line, he's gonna get off, oh my gosh it is a big one, oh, oh he's gonna get off, oh my gosh this is for all the marbles, he literally hit this fish, oh I just got off, I believe that just happened, we were literally about to just reel in, and he hooks up, hey dad, you know what, when you slung, when you slung that pike in and broke my rod tip, that's the, that's the karma, right there, popping off right there, instead of breaking off the lure just pops out, LFG for the dope, oh yeah, let's head back to the cabin for that consequence, sir, hey, fair game, fair competition, fair comp, good game, enjoyed our snot rocket, light line challenge, but you know, it's time to pay up, this is phase one of LFD's punishment, he's got to mow the ditch for the push mower, since he broke my rod tip, my gold series rod tip, by the way, now we're going in here to work on phase two, phase two is not looking so good for dad, we've got ourselves a glass, we're gonna hook him up, sriracha, a little cherry, some bojess, I don't know how you say this, but I had some the other day and it cleared my upper nasal cavity out, some olives, then we spice it up a little bit, little tea does, a little brown water, finish it off one of these beautiful cherries on top, that's gonna be great, hot shot, the hot shot, it's time, I don't know if I'm ready or not, what do you got in it, oh here it is, I know you're a man of spicy concoctions, what's in here, I know you like a little brown water, now there's a couple little Easter eggs, little extra nuggets in there for you, you can choose to maybe have your cherry now or have it after as a dessert, it's all in there, the thing is you gotta just kind of gulp this thing in it, we can't babysit it, you know what I mean, what do you got on that, all right so here's the deal, okay I get the privilege to come up here in Ted's cabin and Steve's cabin and it's a great experience, but there's one thing about it, I have to compete with my son who's a really good fisherman on these contests, last time I ate a damn worm, a live one, it was about that long, this year I got some type of concoction that looks like it might sterilize me, but to be fair I gave you multiple second chances really to come back and you didn't, so now let's do it, hey but I almost came back, there it is, wow that's strong, I'm impressed, I am impressed, oh my god, what happened, oh was it too much horseradish in there, oh that horseradish got burnt in red, whew, oh my goodness, well whatever that stuff was that lit me up the other night, that was, I put like two tablespoons in there, oh the olive was good, he took that like a champ, he did, I knew it wouldn't be that bad for him, he loves spicy stuff, hope you enjoyed watching today's competition, stay tuned, we got more fishing to do up here north of the wall, you know what to do, 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I am an NFT now, so I am an NFT now. I'm an NFT now, featuring on MJ the Fellow Actress Super 8 page. Hi everyone, it's MJ the Fellow Actress, and yeah, this is my Super 8 page. Now Actress tend to work with deterministic and stochastic models, but this week I'm working with Instagram models, Jo, Tyler, and you might recognize her from Netflix's Too Hot to Handle, Christina. Now all these models have had their picture taken with Mark Berman, and Ziggy Ray is also helping us put this whole project together. Now on my YouTube channel, we actually spoke about putting art on the blockchain four years ago. Yes, you can see, back in August 2017. And this is crazy because Super Rare only launched in 2018. Now I heard about Bitcoin back in 2014, and I became an artist in early 2015. And for me, these two things were just a match made in heaven. Last year I made another video about buying crypto art, and I remember getting insulted for spending $70 on a green square. Now I thought I was smart because I sold it a week later for $90. But if you look on Super Rare, these abstract tokens are going for over $20,000. This one went for $18, this one over here almost $25, and this one, which isn't as pretty as the green one that I purchased, went for $27,000. So yeah, you probably think I'm crazy for making NFTs with Instagram models. But this is the future. Content creators are going to embrace this technology. The world we know it is about to change. That's why this collection, I'm an NFT now, it's a prophecy. It is symbolic of mainstream social media entering what we refer to as the metaverse. Now all three pieces are up for auction, so you can go place a bid on one of these pioneers and become part of history. Thanks so much for watching, and I'll see you guys for another video. Cheers.


What's the thing that scares you the most? It is now official Donald Trump is the next president of the United States Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Matt Rogers and welcome to our trailer discussion for American Horror Story Cult Now, uh, this trailer dropped early this morning and uh, we've had a few teasers this week We actually had the opening titles drop yesterday, which is interesting to have the opening titles back I'm glad to see it for one There was a lot of comments saying that they've changed the theme song too much It's a bit too patriotic sounding rather than creepy But we obviously didn't have the intro last season. So it's nice to have it back now in the opening of the trailer here We saw it's obviously based on the election at least at first Because uh, Ryan Murphy mentioned in an interview Probably a few months ago now that it would have something to do with the election Not sure how heavily it would be influenced by it But but look at that intro it looks like it may be more heavily Influenced by than I thought and it's quite an overdramatic reaction to uh, Trump becoming president. That's for sure. But anyway, let's take a further look So we've got um, Sarah Paulson's character. They're talking to Sharon Jackson who's obviously her psychiatrist something like that He mentioned she has coolrophobia, which is fear of clowns And if you've watched any of the teasers, you'll see that there's a lot of clowns or hints at clowns For this cult season Now she mentions in the session that her coolrophobia has gotten worse since the election But maybe due to anxiety or something But I think these clowns are somewhat real because they're obviously pestering it We'll see later in the trailer that she starts getting she's either she starts seeing things or that she actually is seeing what's actually there Um in these clowns or this cult that it's appearing to be So she's in some sort of uh relationship with the woman there. She's got a kid buggy look of it As you saw there, no one seems to believe that uh, there are these clowns around I bet there's something real about them, but whether she's seeing things as well. Not too sure yet Now um, Evan Peters character and billy lord who's joining the cast is uh character She seems to be some sort of psychiatrist We'll see more of that in a second But uh her and Evan Peters are talking about what uh really troubles them and she says that children troubles them But then goes on in the next scene to be talking about children and uh comforting the children with clowns, which She then goes to tell them that not to tell her mother because obviously it's a clown Which as you can see there is twisty the clown from freak show, which is a nice little easter egg there We did have a hint on Ryan Murphy's instagram account that he would be doing some sort of Throwaway to freak show being twisty the clown and now we see it right here Now uh, Evan Peters is doing a voice over there saying if you can get people scared enough they can Basically make the world burn Uh, which means that he may be some sort of leader for the cult or at least some sort of authoritative figure Ordering these clowns around to for some reason recruit Sarah Paulson's character I'm not sure why they would want to because she doesn't seem like there's anything too special about her But they're obviously bothering her for a reason. Maybe there is something hidden Some special quality in her that they want Evan Peters is obviously trying to get her recruited to this cult would be my guess Um, but I guess we'll see And we see more uh clowns tormenting Sarah Paulson's character there her and her family by the look of it And uh, that's it for the trailer So I guess we'll find out more on september 5th when the first episode airs now the first episode is called election night So I have a funny feeling that it's all going to get started with the 2016 election in michigan as it says earlier in the trailer So i'm not much longer left to wait now I guess we're going to find out all of our Theories that we've been discussing for over a year now of what this season is going to be I for one am again glad that uh, it's sort of going back to their roots with american horror story Not sort of doing the reality show it was kind of nice to have rowan oak as it's sort of its own thing Trying something different trying something new but i'm glad they've come back to the normal formula here I guess we'll find out uh how it ranks when it airs on september 5th Now i'll be doing weekly reviews as the episodes come out so make sure you hit that subscribe button But thanks so much for hanging out if you had a good time then spank that like button And if you subscribe during this video then walk them aboard. This is matt rogers signing off


My name is Katerin Konstantino Shurelu, I'm a Google Summer of Code student, and I'm working on the project entitled Enabling Free Multimedia Real-Time Communication in Debian, RTC.  And after that, a short demonstration of the project I'm currently working on, the recon server. It's a SIP conferencing server, and possibly a replacement for Mumble, which we know had some problems in the last iteration of Debian. Okay, so what is WebRTC? Does anyone know? Okay. So, for those who don't know, basically, it's an API that enables plug-in-free communication. Basically, we have one platform for real-time communication, it's unifying, actually. WebRTC has many components, such as codecs, and the API for, I mean, for example, it doesn't have signaling. The user has to provide his own solution, but the framework provides a possibility to integrate it. Such as you can have a SIP, you can use SIP for signaling, you can use XMPP, Jabber, or something else. So it provides all the framework for real-time communication. This is a possible infrastructure. As you can see, we have soft phones, hard phones, Polycom, Cproxy, turn server, you need turn server for NetRiversal, and WebRTC actually, well, Stani is actually mandatory for WebRTC, and well, you can see it really enables everything cross-communication. Okay. The main WebRTC components are media stream. These are mainly audio, video streams, and other, like, it's not really restricted just to audio and video. You can also stream from a CD or different kinds of sensors. Okay. RTCP recognition, this actually handles the codec stuff, the security, SRTP, and DTLS. Also, it's also part of the signaling mechanism. Okay. And the RTC data channel, this is just for arbitrary data streams, anything other than audio, video, you can use it for multiplayer games or file transfer, peer-to-peer file transfer, and many more. Okay. About signaling. We need signaling for WebRTC. If you want to communicate with someone, you have to know their IP, you have to establish a connection, you need a protocol for that. You also need to know the client's audio and video capabilities, so they can communicate. And as I said, WebRTC doesn't have restriction on what protocol you can use. You can use CIP, XMPP, Java, or any other stuff. For example, XML, HTTP requests, you can use them. And, yeah, current JavaScript CIP libraries, we currently have a JS CIP, it's a very robust and simple client, we'll demo it later. CIP ML5, which is more than a CIP library, it's also a media breaker, it has many capabilities. And the Caffe CIP, this is a project on which one of my commenters works, I haven't really used it. Okay. For NetRiversal, Daniel discussed earlier, the main protocols are STUN, TURN, and, well, ICE is a framework that chooses the best way to bypass NAT and consume less resources. For example, for STUN, you just need to, you just ask the STUN server to tell you your IP address, so it knows the address on which it is listening to the client. But for certain configurations, for example, if both clients are behind NAT and the NATs are not well-behaved, you need the TURN, but TURN uses a lot of resources because you need to relay, it relays all the information from the TURN server. So ICE is the best of both worlds, chooses the best solution. Daniel presented earlier a few of the packages available on Debian, the RETURN server from Reciprocate, OpenTURN server, and RFC 5667 TURN server, okay. Now I'm going to, I want to make a short presentation of my project, the RECON server, a conversation manager. So I have a few users registered in RePro. This one should be the phone, and I also have a Lumicall client, 1015. So basically, we dial in the RECON server from both phones, for example, and if someone can speak to the phone, so I can, okay, hi, okay, I can hear you, okay, that's bad. Maybe we have some problems, but it worked earlier, yeah, okay, well, it may have some problems, but it usually works, and, yeah, I think I'm going to ask Daniel to help me a bit, also show the JSEAP client for the, let's just test directly, there may be some options that are not supported, so that's why it's not working right, okay, one-to-one, one, okay, I think I'm having some problems, okay, maybe let me try. So here you can see the browser asks for permission before it allows the web page to take control of the audio and video hardware, audio, or it's a security feature, I'm using Chrome, do you have Chromium, unstable? If you click allow, unavailable, let's just see. Yeah, okay, I don't think you're registered, could you try to register again? Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna call you. So who's got their phone on? Who is that? Oh, sorry, it's my web browser. You can see on the projector that the other user can see that the call has been answered. Yeah, can you hear me? Yes, it's coming through my speakers. Can you enable video on your side? Hello, can you hear me? Maybe not. Let's try again with the video, now you've enabled video. Okay. You've enabled video and you're going to call me again and we see if the video works. Wait, is there anybody else who has a recent Chrome or Firefox on their computer and would like to try and dial in? Sorry, you're stable, okay. So Firefox, no, it'll be a later version. Okay, so you're going to call me again. I'm going to answer the call. I have to allow the permissions. Okay, so we have video. Yes, okay. So I'm going to take this for a walk and just see how far the Wi-Fi goes. So for all those people watching remotely, yeah, welcome to Vomaku. That's the lake of New Chateau behind me. Okay. The problem there is the built-in webcam on this laptop. So, okay. So what we'll do is we'll arrange a little upgrade. That's a webcam. Okay, I'll call you again. If you try again, it's going to the wrong webcam. I don't think I have an option for that. No, I have to change something. But WebRTC is still experimental. They may not have a which webcam option at this stage. Actually, I think it may work on my laptop. It worked yesterday with a different webcam. Maybe, oh, here we go. I found it.  And that's better. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to take this webcam for a tour of Vomaku and LeCamp. So is that any better? Yeah. Now we're going to go to the bar. Okay. Which way should I go to maintain the signal? The main talk room? Do we dare? Does anybody have any questions or would anybody else like to try it from their browser? Yes, Chromium should be supported. I do have a question. You're both running Chrome now. Yes. So I can already do that using proprietary software. So if you up get installed Firefox, would it also work? Or Ice Weasel for that matter? Not in stable. But with the new version of Firefox from back ports or unstable, it may be possible. Not yet. No. Okay. Well, have we got a volunteer who's got the free version? We have a Chromium. So the way to do this is to go to try it.jsip.net. We try one at a time. So you're going to steal my identity now. Your name is 1212. The SIP URI is just it's like this with one to SIP colon 1212 at and then that domain name. The password is and the finally the WS URI is where it says WS dot try it and delete all of that and copy in the same domain name as the SIP URI. So they did. Yes. And then colon 6060. That's the port. 6060. That's it. Yes. So now you can try dialing. I'm going to hang up. Yeah. And you can try dialing 1211. You have to allow the permissions. And that's it. Okay. So now I am calling and welcome. Oh, hi. Hi. Can you hear me? Okay. Now it works. Can you hear me? I can hear you more or less. Yeah. We don't need to participate. I hear you fantastically. And the webcam is working too, I think. Yes. Fine. Yeah. This time it was more like. Okay. So this is a completely free solution that no plugin was required. Which browser version are you using? This is Chromium. Just a moment. I tell you exactly. I am the one in unstable. But if you want the whole number is 28.0.100. 1,500.95. Baby and just a seed two, one, three, five, one, four. So this was installed from the package. It was a manual download. No, no, no, absolutely. Great. So anyone with unstable or even someone with stable can potentially take that package from back ports and try WebRTC from their website. And so, Rhonda, do you want to have a go as well? Hang down. There you are. Okay. Yep. And I'll just give you my account again. So, yes. Yeah, just close the tab. There, one, two, one, two. The SIP URI is on the little box on my screen. Yes. That's your SIP URI with the SIP prefix. I don't think we can forward. The password is in the WS URI. You just delete it. Yeah, the whole thing. WS colon slash slash, then that host name from the SIP URI colon 56, sorry, colon 60, 60, 60. Yes. Yep. Okay. So, so you can call Catalan with one, two, double one. To my script safe settings. I allowed mostly everything that popped up. But so just just try again and enable the JavaScript console and see if we get any clues of why it's blocking the call. The thing that pops up is whether I want to allow it to use my webcam. It's shortly blinks, but then says user denied media. If you enable the JavaScript console. And do you see anything when you try it? Uncalled type error. Object object has no method on ice completed. Which version of Chrome or Chromium? The one in currently in testing, that's 28.0.1500, 95. Okay. We might have to get help from the JS SIP developers. If you can, could you cut and paste the error from the JavaScript console? Sure. And we'll follow up with them. Okay. Great. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for trying that out. And does anybody else want to have a go? Okay. Does anyone else got questions? Okay. Can we try it with other clients rather than just the WebRTC thing? Or do you want to go on to talk about? Yeah. Making my jitzy work, for example. But maybe that should come later. Emil, what did you have planned for your talk? Were you going to do a WebRTC with jitzy later? Or do you want to do that now? Do you dare? It needs, it won't work with SIP. Yes. So what I was saying is that currently jitzy does not support ice and will actually just ice with SIP. We all have public IP addresses. Doesn't matter. Chrome isn't going to establish a connection unless it has ice. We do support it with XMPP and there are people that do successful WebRTC to jitzy interoperability through XMPP. But you would have to have a gateway. And it's only a signaling gateway. It's not a media gateway, but you'd have to have it. We don't have that ready. Right. So no, I was not planning on, I was just planning on mentioning interoperability, but not. No, that's okay. Wookie, any other questions? I don't know much about this technology, how it works, but I wonder if the video traffic goes through the server or is peer-to-peer? Excuse me, I haven't heard the question. My question is if the video traffic has to go through the server or is peer-to-peer? I mean, is the traffic directly from your browser to the other browser or it has to go through your SIP server? Well, you use SIP only for signaling. So the date RTP streams are browser-to-browser, except if you need the turn server in the natural browser, it will go through the turn server. But otherwise, it browsers to browser. So even if the server is in the other side of the world, if you are communicating with somebody in your own city, it should be fast. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Could you show us some of the Java script that's behind JSIP? Or we could start with the HTML. You probably just view the source in the browser. Okay. So I'm not sure where to... I think I'm just going to view... Yeah, that's fine. If you press control U to bring up the full screen source. Okay. And if we just scroll down just to show people the size of this telephone in HTML, that's all. 250 lines. Yes. So that's cut and paste. So to add this to a blog or to replace that old web email form on your website, you can go to this triet.jsip.net and you can cut and paste their HTML and you're halfway there. So you're going to package that. So I don't have to go and cut and paste it off a web page somewhere, which is the kind of thing that annoys me. I've already packaged CipML5, which is an alternative one. Would someone like to try installing the CipML5 package on a server? Does anyone have a server they can do that with? It'll drop a config into your ETC Apache directory and then you'll have a slash CipML5 on whatever domain you're running. Presumably it needs to be a Weezy server. Or is it... Right, yeah. My server's not running unstable, oddly enough. It may be in testing, but I don't think it's in... Yeah, it's not in Weezy. You can get jsip just using wget and copy it. Just wget from that URL that's on the projector. Copy it into a directory under var www.jsip and away you go. So this triet.jsip.net it's updated regularly. And Catalin, could you show us the custom.js file? Yeah. When we started the demo today, Catalin was already logged in. When you go to triet.jsip.net on the internet, it will ask you to fill in all the credentials to log into some Cip server. It can be your own server or you can use their test server. However, if you want to host your own version and you want it to work for people who are not going to want to log in manually, you can modify this js file and you can add in all the parameters. And then when somebody goes to the URL, it will log in automatically and they just have to click and type the number to call and click to call. And you can actually put the number in as well and then it will automatically call some number. So somebody clicking a link in an email will be taken straight into a webcam session. Is it possible to handle multiple calls simultaneously, like Google and Gaud to replace Google and Gaud? Do you have a conference? Yes, to have a conference. Yeah, it is possible. What I think you need is the sort of kind of server to do the media stuff. Yes. I'm not familiar. Yeah, the conferencing is another step. So the conferencing that Cattern started to demonstrate before is not for WebRTC. The recon server will not support WebRTC clients. It will support regular SIP phones. For WebRTC conferencing, the WebRTC browsers have different codecs. So various people have been trying to put solutions together for that. So it's not far away. We could well have remote participation in next year's debconf using this technology. Wouldn't it be most simple to just have multiple WebRTC streams between all the participants of the conference call? Or would that not be possible with browsers? Maybe they can only have one at a time. Actually, you can have multiple streams, but it would be too slow. I mean, for each user to receive multiple streams from other users? Would it? Well, the bandwidth for video is big. Are you referring to a full mesh conference? Yeah. That would probably be very unscalable, because that would require you to send the same streams to everyone in the conference, to send the same streams to everyone else in the conference. Now, currently, for example, in Europe, the most popular way of connecting to the internet is arguably ADSL. And the way ADSL is generally configured to run is with a relatively limited upstream bandwidth that could probably easily fit one upstream video stream and one audio stream as well, but it would be quite insufficient for anything more than that. And I wanted to add one more comment to this. The next talk on JTNJT Video Bridge is going to focus more on conferencing and some of the web RTC interoperability aspects. What are the bandwidth requirements for an audio-only call and for a video call? Okay, I'll start with audio. And have any minutes we got? Okay. There are a range of codecs available. Each codec offers a different style of compression, and there's a trade-off between the quality and the level of compression. And the best codecs in terms of compression will generate a bit rate of about eight kilobits a second, plus the overheads in the TCP IP, which can actually be more than eight kilobits a second. But certainly, you can get an audio session that's using less than 30 kilobits in total. And now, for reasonable quality, you'll probably have 80 kilobits or more for audio. And that will get you a G711, and sometimes you can use the G722, which is a wide band codec. And a video on top of that really varies. So the more quality and the bigger the resolution and the faster the frame weight, the more it's going to use. So even with a limited bandwidth, like with 100 kilobits, you have a very basic picture. But if you've got megabits to spare, then you'll have live sort of movement in your picture. With certainly the people with the bare bones like 128 kilobit uplink on their DSL in some of the more remote locations can get two or three concurrent audio calls over their broadband connection, or one audio and one video stream. So I just succeeded in setting this over my server. He's right. It's not very difficult. You copy the file to somewhere you can see. It doesn't look very pretty. That's Firefox not running some JavaScript, I suspect. If I try running it in the epiphany browser, it makes a crash. So that's not very good. But anyway, what do I type? Okay. So I think what we've demonstrated is we can host it on your server, even if your browser is not WebRTC ready. So the only way we're going to get past this is to upgrade the browser. But nonetheless, other people can call each other through your server now using that technology if you give them accounts. It's just you won't be able to make or receive calls with them until you update the browser. But how did you feel about the process of getting it onto the server? Like if we connect to your server from one of these laptops, it should work for us. We could try that. Okay. If you take your laptop up to Catalan and he can try that. So if you copy Wookie's URL into your browser, I think it's supposed to be Tilda in front of Wookie? Although I'm not sure why. Is everything copied? Do you do a recursive Wget? Or just... Okay. Just try a recursive Wget to borrow all the content from try.jsf.net and then it should be okay. Have we got anybody watching remotely on IRC who might want to try calling us from a remote location? Is anybody monitoring IRC? Do we have any volunteer? No. So we're now demonstrating that on Wookie's website and this is there for anybody watching remotely as well. You can all jump on Wookie's website and try to call us at the same time. So this is the sign-in form that can be automated. We'll try first with Ronda and then we'll come back to your browser. You have any luck? Okay. Network is never mind. I'll try from my browser again. So, Wookie, this is your web server. So how long did it take you to install this to your website? About five minutes. Actually, once I type the right thing in the right place, about 20 seconds. Okay. Well done. So we're really hoping that people will go away and try this. There's an article on my blog about Get Web RTC Going Fast and that will take you through the steps to do this. So people are more than welcome to come and ask questions on the mailing lists and we'll try our best to help you out. So, yeah, thanks for coming to this session and feel free to come and ask questions and let us know how you progress with it all.


Hey everyone, this is Christian Buckley doing another MVP buzz chat, and I'm talking today with Tamash. Hello Hi. Hi, my name is Tamash. Yeah, for folks that don't know you. Who are you? Where are you? And what do you do? Okay, so my name is Tamash Christian. I am coming from Europe Slovenia capital Ljubljana I've been MVP for six seven years now and in the data platform so SQL Server database and stuff like that This is what I essentially do for the MVP But otherwise I do love machine learning and in statistics and data analysis. So this is where you know, really my heart goes boom boom boom There's a lot of there's a lot of exciting things that are happening in that space and kind of your world is bleeding over into the collaboration space because most of the newest features over in the collaboration stack so within teams and SharePoint and all those are all AI driven are all You know BI tools and other just cool automation stuff that's happening. There's a lot happening in the space Yeah, definitely. It's gonna be democratized You know, so it's if you probably have heard it the democratization of artificial intelligence or machine learning So this is you know the train that we will see in the next years You know following more and more so collaboration with different I don't know algorithms machine learning algorithms with tools like Teams or offices stuff like that. So this is gonna be a huge wave in in the next couple of years. Yes Yeah, I know I'm actually going through now and and a class power platform class and awesome I built my first chat bot last night and so playing around with different tools again Not not my space my marketing guy and the collaboration technology guy But going through I think it's important to just understand even though I'll never go and I may build some small things for myself for my team at work I mean, it's I'm not gonna go pursue a career within that space. Although there's a ton Just so many examples of you know opportunities that are around the power platform space But that space in general, I always like to point out so my my middle son much smarter human being that I am About to graduate in with his degree in atmospheric sciences. I tried to encourage him I said to to to do like a minor in data science and At the end I asked him he's about to graduate in December. I said, what's your regret about this? Is I you know, I would have if I could do it over again, I would have done more around data science I'm like, I told you I told you he picked up R and Python. I said, those are the skills Being able to go in there and read and manipulate the data is Critical across, you know, he's in weather science super exciting stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's you know, but this is the future as well Yeah, yeah, very much so but I mean every industry Across multiple roles. There is a need for that every company is hiring data scientists that have these kinds of skills Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and you know, it doesn't stop with the weather. It just goes beyond that, you know So for instance, you would have like Village analysis data analysis, for instance, and you would have a bunch of software a bunch of hardware, you know Just to go through the landscape of different areas in the world just to have analysis of how people are building Houses, how they are living and stuff like and then you combine that with loads of different data like weather data like, you know Geo data or economical data and you have You know, so this is really the future, you know Collaboration between different, you know platforms people Mindsets and and bringing everything together with machine learning. It's gonna be separate Well, and there's a reason why Microsoft now and with the Viva is another great example of that a lot of what Viva is is It's really tools that are looking at different aspects of the employee experience and looking at the data and trying to understand You know, why are people doing those? What are the patterns the behaviors of? Collaboration and each of the different workloads and how can we like where is it working? Why is it working? How can we replicate that? How can we get better at when we onboard new employees that they are more effective? You know quicker within that process. That's what so much of it about it's all about Data science underneath at all. Sure. Yeah, and and you know human resources and Analysis surrounding human resources. It's it's it's again, it's emerging You know, I'm not gonna say industry But you know since we have so much data lying around, you know We can as you mentioned Microsoft Viva This is a perfect example where you see what people have felt, you know, what is their well-being? You know how they are proceeding with with the project when you combine everything that I mean again You can see why my project felt maybe because this person was disengaged or maybe he wasn't happy or she wasn't happy You know, all this is just put together and you have you know a lot of insights explained So that's yeah, the beauty. Yeah, well too much. How did you get into this space? Kind of what's your what's your background? so yeah Probably faculty just you know pushed me in this direction. So, you know statistics and mathematics And essentially I felt, you know, that there's interesting especially if you can put data and programming together and Sort of applied it to some to something And and this is how I ended basically just in this area of statistics. Yeah Well, it's very cool. And what was your path to becoming an MVP? What was that journey like? Yeah, so I've been in community long before become Before I became an MVP so as you know Doing local community user meetups and then we started the sequel Saturdays. I helped help there and then we also did the Python I'll use a group and then yeah six seven years ago I've sort of you know gotten an email on the first of I think it was first of October 2015-16 I got wow And yeah, this is essentially how I became you know, just you know slowly Whatever you learn you slowly give back to community try to you know persuade younger people younger generations talk to students You know talk to people who want to learn something new. So basically just sort of you know keep People together and then sort of you know, just energize them with the with the knowledge or the ideas Yeah, you brought up one of my favorite things like so I don't sequel Saturdays were huge The SharePoint people kind of stole the idea and what built that out there And I know that there's still a lot of those that are still called SharePoint Saturdays sequel Saturdays Collab days, there's Microsoft has now community days and different things out there But that is a great way for people that thinking, you know, I want to do more I want to get more involved is because as it one of the core Organizers of our formerly SharePoint Saturday Utah event like we love it when people step forward and say hey I'd love to help and be like hey, there's no shortage of stuff to do. We'd love to get people involved that way Yeah, that's true. And I myself have been for the first time in Collab days last year in Germany. So it wasn't just a year ago It was a huge event, you know, you know keeping in mind it was still a COVID, you know tough time And there was like two thousand three thousand people all over the world just flying into Düsseldorf, Germany Collab days and I've seen for the first time that people are developing, you know, you know small snippets applications for teams for for office for I don't know and just you know Bringing together again and data science and all those little devices for teams and stuff like it's just amazing Yeah, so so I was so happy that you know, those world should collide much more Austin Yeah, harder. Yeah. Well, and we're gonna see I'm it's exciting to see Events starting to pick back up again one of the things that I I keep asking friends that are participating events around the world I had friends that just participated in the the AOS Singapore and Malaysia events and so my first questions are like, you know, are people showing up? or you know, what kind of what were the best, you know, the the most the biggest Turnout for sessions like what are what are people interested in hearing about? Because it's just it's exciting to see that and As I'm starting to I think like I'm sure you're doing the same thing where I'm starting to now kind of go in refresh some different as abstracts and Send them out for in-person events for next year and yeah starting that process Exactly. Yeah, the same. So Yeah, we've been back online. So this year we do for instance data Saturday in Slovenia We do the last hopefully last year online so that next year we do it in person But otherwise a lot of events just started picking up in person and I'm totally up for it You know, I just yeah this year I'm doing still two I think or three But then the next year. Yes, it will be it's stuff like that So it's gonna be you know, super awesome to at least to hug people and and to chat with them to have you know go for a drink Yeah, it's it's amazing. Yeah, I'm always amazed at how Often I see people and I'm just like, oh, it's been great. I haven't seen you and they're like they're like actually We've never met in person. We've just just online through the web and I'm like, that's right Yeah, I was over in in England in June for an event And there were a number of people that it was like, oh, yeah, it's great to see you again It's like, no, actually it's the first time we've ever seen each other You tend to forget that but So with ignite behind us anything that was kind of stood out to you jumped out anything that you're really excited about So there was a couple of things for the sequel server, of course and and and data platform So database stuff like that. So everything being connected with the with the cloud and Azure You know, you let's say sequel commands and functions. This is you know, I'm super pumped and super hyped to be honest In terms of machine learning, there were a couple of novelties for the Asian machine learning services And also signups, which is again, you know, the the the data platform stuff But yeah, I've only seen it online. So I haven't been there in person. So yeah, but this was again You know, I was pretty much hyped because of the sequel server 2022 and that's it Yeah, it's it's As I'm starting to I mean I read through like the the book of news that Microsoft produces around the shows and and go through and I'll be honest I mean a lot of the Azure stuff and the announcements around it. I'm like, I Not really following a lot of it, you know, very closely except when it like around power platform or or with You know teams and SharePoint and drive in the emmer where there's things that impact that on the back end But yeah, so if anybody is wondering kind of what we're talking about if you just go search for book of news Microsoft 22 and you can see your passes It's like a collection of every press release and links to all of the formal blog posts and all things that out there So it's a great way to kind of recap all the formal announcements. Yeah Well, very cool. Well, so for folks that want to find out more about you or get in touch with you What are the best ways to reach you? Probably so I have a blog which I usually write about, you know, data analysis data engineering or Python and also github Probably I don't know probably those two would be most frequent which I'm, you know constantly updating also medium Yes, that's yeah, I'm looking at here in your blog right now at the WordPress blog and it goes writing about our functions Super exciting I'm gonna I was just thinking about it I'm gonna point my son to this because like he nerds out on this stuff. He's like he's the he just absorbs it Yeah, I started a series of useless our functions just in a way to get people on board of learning, you know Our languages it is but then I found out with myself every time I find or I start writing an article Which might be read a longer, you know, I have to think about it tested stuff stuff like that. I found myself Sorry writing this short Block posts of useless our functions. I don't know.  I know I know but this was the intent You know, this was the intense to do it Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, this is the way, you know, this I've been writing it for the past two years So this is how the series started. But yeah, I think at some point in time. I have to just drop it and say well forget Well, I'm happy if you know, you'll find the link over to Timosha's Blog and everything over in the buck the planet blog of course on the YouTube description as well So we'll point everybody to those resources To watch it was great meeting you and and hopefully are you gonna do the collab summit in May over back in I think it's in Düsseldorf again. Um, oh that part. I don't know. I think it was one was just it just happened In Frankfurt, I think right. Yeah, so that was the was that the power platform one Probably yes. So last year they sort of merged it the power platform and share points So now probably next year they will sort of decouple it and and but yeah, I'll definitely Submit and and we'll see. Yeah. Yeah, I know I just saw Otis one of the organizers was just over an event last month And he's amazing person. He's amazing person. Yeah. He's a good guy. Yeah. It was great to hang out with him and and Always fun to see Otis. So well Yeah, too much really really great meeting you and hope to see you next year one of these events Thanks for having me