Right well it looks like you got an eight hour agenda to me. Yeah, we got eight hours worth of content We could fill it and see us starts tomorrow Yes, see us starts tomorrow. Isn't that the best part? I'm leaving tomorrow. Are you that's the best time to leave? Did you drive? No, I I flew took a Delta flight Sarms are real tired. I Thought about driving because given like how early after show up for for security and how long it takes to get from The airport like I just wanted to have the time to be able to work Yeah, it's not dead time. Yeah, it's useful time. Well, I Guess there's a little bit Let me ask you this if the car could drive itself Would you have reconsidered like you would just self-drive? Oh, yeah, heartbeat. Yeah, totally. Oh, yeah from LA It's four hours. The car could drive itself I would have absolutely done the the drive because it the key is like it can take me door to door I walk out of my door getting the car drops me off of Mandalay Bay boom Right instead of get up here get to the airport an hour and a half ahead of time Yeah, it's a half hour to get there there. You've lost two hours already. You're on on the plane yet Yeah daily tech news Did you come up with that yourself the character limit Nice, I think I remember somebody made it for me and then gave me the keys Okay, what's your Art art Australian yeah sound a lot like shy Shy yamadi is in front of ours. It's from from Australia voice accents the same as a wife. I work in for you cylinders Interesting Texas does this every day really? Oh Oh Steve's our door on it man. That's awesome Maybe need to keep maybe they need to drive those down into the ground pilings or just sign in for a giant sign So what does it mean to go to? Oh the 50 states made sense. What was that one? He wanted to join The government he has applied for permission to the board and to be able to take a government job That was back in december. That's actually old news, but just in the light of this Yeah, that's a the other one's a fan run one daily tech underscore show daily tech news shush is my is mine Okay, I see what you're saying, all right I should Needless amazon stuff Wait, no, it's not not patrick. What amazon stuff. It's patrick norton. Oh, it's just a lot of stuff Boy, he's not here yet. Just in the last few you can take another one later Things like they want to become the operating system for the home. Oh, yeah, I saw it's like a think piece, right? Yeah, I don't kind of we've kind of talked about that before it didn't feel like news to me But I don't think it is either it's just the two partners and stuff seem kind of like a big deal But it just goes along with what we already said for what you've been saying for months. Who are the partners? Yeah, um looking hold on Wait, what's that echo coming from? I don't know Um, let's see 4k tv chinese 4k tv builder Doesn't say the name it's really noticeable now You're hearing a lot of echo Yeah, like more so than before did that change anything? I just moved the other mic Oh, no, did that that did not change it. Uh, maybe it did Yeah, it's it's better. Yeah, I think it was just closer to the tom speakers or something She says she's here No, tom you're right at the more think pc Okay It's interesting because it feels like We haven't started the show, but we're live. Hi, Shannon. How are you? Hi, we met once up at the twit brick house. Nice to see you So were you at the conferences the press conferences now, okay Cool, we're gonna do it in shifts Raj and Allison will do the top stories section And then uh, if patrick shows up you and patrick will do the press conference section lg high sense and panasonic And you can always yell things from the peanut gallery anymore So at one point you'll just poke us and say leave Yeah, I'll probably do it better than that. I hope Hey, leave Get out of here. You bother me I think it was just pointed towards the other mics. I think it was pointed this way. It was the only problem Yeah, you want to scooch in towards you at all times and I think that That'll keep it all right nice and cozy. Yeah I'm gonna bow that shannon. I see in the left with the white pants and dark top Matt Oh, wow, how white is that? Oh, steve. You're live. You're live now. Say hi steve photo bomb from steve. You're Yeah, you're being from your photo. That's good Yeah, that's good Wait, where's how are you seeing shannon roger? She was there. She's she's very elusive right there. You see her? Just your right leg It's her left leg, right? I don't know. It's her left leg, right? I did the coordinate transformation. I thought it was all over leg. She says Oh, what is that? I can't get into chat Oh I didn't think about getting into chat.  I'm not gonna try to hit the links or anything. Uh, yeah, I did it for my watch. I think 10 minutes We're closing in on it, man So you going to any of the other events tonight like this? I am going to digital experience. Yeah, aka pepcom pepcom pepcom's fun like that We did, um What was the early one yesterday? Ah Yeah, oh, that's right. That was there connected. Yeah, that was a lot of people. Yeah That was a brush like there were all kinds of people who were there that I didn't see like yourself Uh, Anthony carboni apparently was there at one point. Yeah, I saw, um, brian tong Yeah, I saw brian. I was interviewing the uh global head of pr for belkin and he runs up and goes We went to high school together and gives her big hug and runs away Apparently it was true. He wasn't making that up Tried to get some dirt on him, but she had nothing Well, that was the first problem I did facebook live stream and as I was walking I kept running into people wanting to talk to him But you know, it's like holding the phone down at the side when I talked to a friend Is it a very interesting facebook live stream? So I stopped I'm like, I'm just going to stop streaming So I did a part one and a part two. Oh, that's a good idea I haven't done a lot of facebook lives. I did one when I was running running I used the turn loosely speed walking 10k at disney land. That was fun I thought when you said running you were going to say a department at your former job or something So when you changed it to speed walking, I'm like, well, that's an interesting way to Walking my job walking my department. Yeah No and facebooking from a government Companies, they don't like that. That's a no nothing into that. No, they're kind of funny I just realized if I turn to talk to you, it's probably bad mic control I have to just keep going this way. Just look at you lurk with my eyes. How does it sound roger? When she Say a few words. Hello. How are you? He's pretty low compared to you too. Yeah, but I don't know if it's just because he Hello, I like to talk louder this time, please It's good, but he is getting looped back in through your speakers or Something because I hear an echo Just on that one. There should not be an echo from him because there's no live speaker of us talking All right, raj say a few words more Hi roger. How are you? Where are you? Do you hear that? Just just a slight reverberation Echo more like he's in a hollow in a tunnel. Yeah It's not terrible.  Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I mean, it's definitely being picked up by the other mics But yeah, I should be in phase. I could just stand and like very quiet for a sec He sounds like the voice of god Everybody quiet for a sec Oh, yeah There is like a a hall echo a hall like a hall Yes Hey patrick norton's here patrick norton's here. We're we're live but we haven't started to show you We've been all doing that. Can you explain the the dance To patrick Yeah, yeah You're doing Two in two out though How do you it's hard Yeah, just flush the toilet before one Because it's loud. Yeah, it's like a uh jennigan Yeah, no more going potty after one o'clock It's no look from here Yo Met the sound Well, uh, yeah, I don't know why we're getting that I wonder if it's just because it's the other mics Well, let me let me see roger or uh, roge talk again Do you want me to do you want me to talk away from you? No, I don't think that's it. I think it's an effect in the in the in the mixer Yeah, that's what it sounded like when I just checked it You could switch our our mics and find out if it happened to me But then we would still not be able to do anything about it. Allyson sounds fine Okay I like having effects on my voice. Wait, it made it. Maybe it's just roge It could be it. Well, it could be my voice Wait, here, let's try it. What if I talk in his mic? Yeah, you do that do that again. It actually wasn't that bad. Okay. This is allyson talking out of roge's mic No, you have a slight echo Rush hasn't echoed real echo. I like to talk talk It's like you're literally announcing everything through an empty stadium Yeah, or like you're calling that you're trying to save me. I fell in a well and you're trying to save me. Okay, roge talk Uh, so much pressure to talk when you say that's better. That's better. So what is the mixer then? So it's this this pot This pot. Yeah, I don't know Yeah There's something on that So i'm good now Good. Yeah, we're good. All right. Awesome. Should we go ahead and do a show? I've always wanted to say hi to patrick norton. Hi patrick norton. I'm allyson chariden We've never met documented live for years. Oh, I see the paw of patrick norton swinging the feet I'll need control at some point. Ah, yes control such a control freak. Yeah, I heard it All right. Hold on my laptop's locking up. Um while he's doing that you're gonna When you start you're gonna do the intro. Are we doing a pre-reported? No, I I'll uh, why don't yeah, I'll do the intro. I'll just make it easier Uh-oh My laptop locked. Okay Can you hear me? I can hear you.   Okay Roger will be back shortly We will await him. Do we sing in the meantime? Yes That is always some enchanted evening. You have to summon roger with a song Play a flute. Yeah, you should play the flute Uh, no, I wasn't a flautist I was a pianist Badly very bad pianist. I call that a piano player. Yeah, and a pianist is somebody who can actually do it If there's that too quite frequently unintentionally, I did do a little double take when he said it Piano players. Yeah, exactly So we're not Excuse me lining around. We're just going through lighting round is just me and scott bang bang Yeah, we're gonna try to get we're gonna try to set the world record for the most amount of ces announcements in the shortest 19 or oh no, it starts at nine Those are good ones though. I went wow after a lot of them Yeah, it's it's a lot of good stuff and part of the problem is we did the show early yesterday so What would a few things that normally would have gone into 130 show Didn't make it Just in case I came prepared with some stuff that I saw just in case that was one of the questions because I Weren't sure what we were doing. My stuff's really obscure.  Like there's a thing called an acoustic. Uh, what was the company acoustic something started has a k in it It's a a panel of Like 160 acoustic arts 160. Oh, yeah, a little parabolic Speakers that they're doing basically like a phased array and they can focus the audio directly at you So think about like you're you're in the hospital and and you want to watch tv But the guy next to you doesn't want to watch tv. You're the only one who's got you or anything Oh, I'm into that. Yeah They're gonna have to work with oems and such so I'll throw I'll I'll throw uh Maybe before we get into the press conferences, I'll throw to each of you Raj if you have something too Okay, let me think of something of any of the thing you saw And then Patrick and Shannon will do the same after the thing. What are the hairy growth snake oil? Nice. Yeah, I love it I can't remember First first the pianists. Yeah, the hairy growth. First they came for the pianists and I said nothing I Like the seven hooks That looks interesting. I want to see how well that really works, but It's a smart remote from a french slash san francisco company So that you can set it up their their big wow moment as you point it at the door and it'll call an uber for you Yeah Sorry joe That was my son I think you do have to confirm it on the boat, but that's not to say that Certain people's children can't be smart enough to figure that part out to me I did it again, haha Let me guess you buy wrong stuff on your dash A lot of tide showing up Killing my laptop. Okay. All right Hey I will see you wait. I can't even disappear myself. Oh, there we go. And do you still control? See, yeah Hello, roger. Yes, you do. All right Scott, are you ready?  How about so what are you ready? What are you ready to play first just the theme music? Yeah, so when you've done your read you're going to do your little patreon read, right? Yeah, yeah, and then this will be how loud it is And I'll immediately go down Yeah, there perfect and then I should record everywhere including my backup just wanted All right, and I'm recording audio too. So we'll be we'll have redundancy. Okay. All right Then when you want when you want this you just sort of You just sort of key to it and I'll play it. Yep. I'll say top stories and then All right Three two The daily tech news show is powered by its audience to find out more head to daily tech news show.com slash support This is the daily tech news for wednesday, january 4th 2017 i'm tom merit and we are at the consumer electronics show in los vegas nevada I've got allison chariden roger de ute. You can't see them But over there are shannon morse and patrick norton waiting in the rings even sp Sheridan's lurking over there in the corner as well Because we've got All the news they they they announced all the news today. It's all done So allison and raj are going to talk about some of the top stories a couple that aren't even from ces Then shannon and patrick are going to come in we're going to talk about the lg panasonic and high sense press conferences But before all of that scott johnson, my co-host is not in los vegas. You're in salt lake city How are you doing scott fine? It's like it's 11 degrees. So how much better could it be? Let's warm you up with a lightning round of ces news There's so much we kind of want to give you the impression of what it's like to be at ces by overloading you with announcements Scott and i are going to attempt to set the world record for most ces headlines in the least amount of time Are you ready scott? I've never been more ready. Let's do it. All right. Here we go Let's see if I can get back to the top of my dock Garmin announced the phoenix 5 5s watches for $599 and a 5x watch for $699 for monitoring multiple sports. That's things like hiking swimming cycling and including us topo maps on the 5x They arrive in q1 those cost too much Kingston data traveler ultimate gt the world's highest capacity usb 3.0 flash drive Has two terabyte in zinc alloy case that comes out in february. There is no price yet. Give me one now samsung announced the q7 q8 and q9 qled tv's with a claim of 100% collar volume and compatibility with the samsung smart due app for casting video from phones and tablets No comment the seven hugs smart remote can control 25,000 different connected devices including thermostats lights and speakers Why it sounds like the internet of things to me and even order an uber by pointing Uh it at your front door Pre-order now for 229 or 300 at retail later this year. What could go wrong? Uh colibri announced the aura toothbrush with embedded ai that analyzes how long you brush and what teeth you hit and send you an analysis Once a week you can pre-order for 80 bucks $130 at retail in march. I don't need yet another device telling me how terrible I am at something withings And or l oriel, excuse me have a wi-fi l oriel. Have you never seen a shampoo commercial pet? Come on Well, I avoid those i've told you about this anyway You have a wi-fi and bluetooth hairbrush with accelerometer and gyroscope to track how much you brush your hair How hard and how much uh hair break could you inflict? It's around $200 shipping and that happens mid 2017 No, they're not putting too many things smart things into everything. I don't think that at all Uh saman tech introduced the norton core router that gets regular updates on cyber crime protection And can isolate infected devices with reports on blocked threats and a safety score You can pre-order for 200 bucks including one year service $280 at retail though no release date and it comes in titanium gold or gray Didn't shannon ask for this in the in the prediction show? maybe There are many things that shannon asked for the prediction shother announced at z. Yes, I think she had inside I'm just glad you have a norton news while patrick norton is in the his house Uh, next up, uh, where was I? Yahweh announced a 5.5 inch Uh honor 6x it's now available in europe and the us for 225 euros. That is $250 us in gray gold and silver Intel announced its first 5g modem meant to help companies test 5g devices qualcomm is already testing 5g modems with at&t Nice that's I in I'll also screwed up the notes. I'm feeling pretty good about this so far For the crap am I here it is. How about this one tcl is showing off a prototype of the first phone It will make under the blackberry name. It's a touchscreen android phone with a qwerty keyboard It's codenamed mercury is not the final name that is expected to go on sale in february Comcast demoed its xfinity advanced gateway system that does mesh wi-fi coverage and integrates with voice and tv on xfinity x1 set up boxes What's the cap on that? I wonder all right tcl also announced 25 new roko roku 4k tvs Starting with the 50 inch p series tv for 50 or for 500. That's pretty cheap. They support dolby vision and hdr 10 Has support for uh, whoa that moved around and real quick. There we go They support dolby vision and hdr 10 and the c-series as hdr dynamic contrast Telegram announced a new feature that lets you delete a message up to 48 hours after you send it Oh Instagram or a snap chatting our life away tlc is showing a prototype of the first phone that we'll make nope. I already read that one No, you didn't you didn't you read a different tcl one. Oh here it is again They're showing off a prototype of the first phone that will make under the blackberry name It's a touch screen android phone with a purity cure keyboard its code name is mercury. I swear I read this before No, read the other one then of line 21 tcl also announced the 25 new roku tvs. Was there also red? I read both of those All right, and then asus zen phone ar that we uh got leaked earlier this week got released with depth sensing project tango built in It's compatible with google's daydream vr as expected coming in q2 no price announced Don't walk into walls and while everyone was focused on ces medium laid off 50 non engineering employees and shut down It's new york and dc offices as part of a focus on quality overreach And the one thing that got deleted somehow was alarm.com With a new security system that will send a swarm of small quad copters to whatever it senses whether it's a break in Or a water leak That was a cool So that happened at ces today now now Scott it's time for the top stories The wrong one there you go Mark zuckerberg announced his personal challenge for 2017 will be to visit and meet with people in all 50 states in the united states He wants to talk to people about quote how they're living working and thinking about the future tech crunch notes That zuckerberg filed documents asking the board of facebook to allow him to work in government without releasing control of facebook That happened last december and a 50 state tour certainly sounds a bit like a campaign Yeah, it really sounds like something the politicians should do Go talk to everybody in every state and find out what they're doing. Maybe zuckerberg will have little zucker rallies It sounds like something politicians should do but is it something zuckerberg should do if he's gonna become a politician? Like you know what we it's easy to mock But facebook has become the place everyone points to when something goes wrong And so if you're mark zuckerberg getting out and actually talking to real people in real life And trying to get a sense of how they use it and what their concerns are isn't such a bad thing Is it but doesn't his christmas javas video sort of Disassociate him with with the common person Just to go out and find out how many people actually have wi-fi everywhere they are Things like that. I mean, I think we always talk about well, he's gonna do balloons or something. Yeah, you know But he thinks everybody has wi-fi the company I worked for we didn't have wi-fi all day long I didn't have wi-fi didn't exist. So He'll find out if he goes to you know places in southern illinois and north dakota They not even just wi-fi, but you know the the cellular coverage isn't consistent across the country Sure I have a I have a thought on this and this is I'm keeping politics out of this But when I was eight years old my dad told me son anybody can be president if they want to And this this year we kind of learned that and so because we've learned that doesn't it make sense And again, this is a little bit of a you know, I'm predicting here But it seems like some people may see the recent election and say oh, okay well You don't have to be a career politician you don't necessarily have to be in politics your entire life to get that job And experience is liquid we can kind of figure out, you know, what experience applies to what so Why not some of our tech leaders planning now? For for eight years from now to to maybe enter that race. I don't think that sounds that crazy in light of recent events Yeah, yeah the way you describe it and that sounds kind of intelligent there. It's a plan unlike khanye's And now we have to give equal time to whoever runs against khanye But that's my point like there's an there's an opportunity here for People of of industry people in other parts of the world or other parts of when I say the world of the of the of the Citizenry to look at who they are what they are what influence they have And think about what they want to see for the future I'm guessing zuckerberg's one of those guys I would love to see a certain kind of future and And maybe he has ideas on how to how to achieve that or find a base for that and so So why not? I mean, it may be if it may be a way far off thing. He's very young He would be the youngest candidate even in four years to run for president. I think on record that I know of So, you know, who knows it's maybe it's unlikely in a lot of ways But I I feel like in light of of what is possible perhaps something like that might be in his plans Would be interesting to have a technologist in in charge of the country. No I have lots of thoughts on that Before we go to that for a special dTNS next thing you know, we'll have an actor in charge. That's right Oster hut design group aka odg announced that its first two consumer augmented reality glasses the r8 and r9 The r9 is aimed at light enterprise and prosumer users with 50 degree field of viewing The ship's quarter two for 1,799 the r aimed at Entertainment or excuse me the r9. It looks like aimed at entertainment Uses like movies and gaming that thing's going to sell for a thousand and that's going to ship second half of 2017 Both these glasses run android on the snapdragon 835 chip 21st century fox is working with br firm ot o y And ar platform maker ptc to create content for the glasses So I for one. I'm happy to see a content arm moving right along with this plan Odg's been around for a while. They've been around since I think 99 They usually do big business military governmental sort of stuff And so this is interesting to see them noticing Spectacles and google glass Kind of failing and saying hey, we think we can do that So what are they what are they talking about though if they're if they're talking augmented reality, but then movies I mean am I going to be watching a western with john wane and steve walks into the to the movie Well, the augmented reality isn't the movies you can do both Okay, okay, yeah Basically, there'll be augmented reality applications, but on that consumer level one So they've got the two right the r9 is the light enterprise prosumer one on the consumer one They really pushing they're like hey, you can watch a movie on your face I still don't buy it tom. I know I see it every time I know I've got two things one scott can pronounce austa hut, but not l'oreal Which is incredible Uh and two I think this validates tim cooks sort of predictions a little bit Uh, I mean this is using android. So it's not really what he wants But that is where he's constantly said vr or ar is going to be for apple is in this augmented reality space So if these guys can come out and and actually sell one, uh, unlike the hollow lens Which is what three and a half thousand for a dev kit or something like that at the moment Uh, but does a lot more I guess uh, it'll be interesting to see how this goes in the marketplace and whether it Sort of lays the way for what apple are betting on I guess at the moment or I don't want to I don't want to think tank the rest of the industry into the ground here But I have an idea that I think they can go ahead and steal and make and show out at next Yes, and here's what it needs to be and this maybe will alison. This is maybe your way in okay imagine that you're able to watch a film And your augmented device your your whatever it is you're wearing to create augmented Layers on top of things We'll see through eye tracking that you're looking at a particular actor And you may decide through a blink of an eye or something to Pause the film have it sort of zoom in on the the caption of that photo And then lay out a bunch of information other movies they're in When they passed away or how old is this movie or when was their first, uh big break in hollywood Or whatever kind of what amazon does now with pausing the screen when you're watching prime videos and on the tablet Or whatever or on a desktop Like those kinds of applications i don't ever hear anybody talking about and those are really interesting to me In light of the fact that this is a consumer focused. That's a very consumer friendly cool thing I would love to do one day I still get into the thing with movies though is that that means it's an isolated experience I'm going to watch a movie and i'm not going to talk to anybody else in the family Nobody else. I mean we might watch the same movie at the same time But it's four of those cases right when you go to the movies in the theater you don't talk to people So now you can get a movie theater experience at your house without having to leave But we're sharing an experience there. We're all laughing at the jokes together. All you need to buy multiple glasses It's three day tv and everybody I pause to figure out who that guy is and steve's like come on I just want to see what's going on in the movie. No, this is for not that you're describing the use case This is not for okay Maybe i'm too social. Yeah I'm going to sit alone in my basement and watch to watch movies. Okay. All right Faraday future unveiled its ff 91 prototype at ces That's a car if you haven't been following things it features a futuristic hatchback design most notably a 130 kilowatt hour battery Good for 378 miles of range The ff 91 has a zero to 60 time of 2.39 seconds, which they made a big deal of how that was faster than tesla Prototype features a pop-up lidar sensor in the hood for limited self-driving capabilities Cameras in the b-pillars to recognize approaching passengers and open the doors a variety of luxury amenities for passengers Press were able to take a test ride although the automatic parking feature failed in the demo It failed the first time it was classic ces demo fail It did work on the second try consumers could put a $5,000 deposit down to reserve a place in line for production units But the prototype demoed will not be the finalized vehicle So you're putting a deposit down on something you don't know exactly what you're getting it Or if the company will survive Stephen I got to drive the tesla roadster And that was three in change. I think 2.39. I mean does it come with a neck brace? I mean that isn't that is incredibly fast Yeah, that's nuts Okay, patricks is one in three people he knows as a car that fast wrapped it around Something to park a lot Just spun it out. Don't do that Notice that I notice that all these numbers are just high enough to be higher than what tesla says So 370 mile nine or 78 miles of range higher than tesla Even the $5,000 down is higher than the $1,000 down for the model three like it is It feels like a real interesting game of one-upsmanship And I think this is really good and healthy whether or not it succeeds whether or not fair day feature is the next big thing Whether or not, you know tesla or anyone else has anything to worry about is a whole different argument But this seems like healthy back and forth to me So this is the boutique electric car manufacturer who lost most of his executives this year Doesn't seem to have any money and probably couldn't get a refund on its ces deposits So came here to demo anyway just in case they get miracle venture capital While fort is announcing they're investing billions of dollars in electric vehicles because they think they're going mainstream I'm not feeling real positive about this Just saying That was me. I said all that Thank you $5,000 down folks. They need it You know what no matter what happens this is exactly what elan said he wanted to have happened right? he said i'm going to make these crazy cars and I want everybody to get excited and and We turn on the tv a couple times the last couple of days and all it was about was this fair day car I mean it was like oh, yeah c. Yes fair day car. That's all it was at least there's competition Yeah, and excitement and our next story proves that cars are taking over ce That's right. Speaking of tesla starting to they're starting making the lithium ion batteries in conjunction with panasonic and And their factory in nevada on wednesday is that monster factory the batteries are first be used in tesla powered products Powerwall products, excuse me and soon in the model 3 sedan at peak production The gigafactory is expected to employ 6,500 workers and create between 20,000 and 30,000 additional jobs. That's huge tesla announced tuesday it shipped 76,230 vehicles in 2016 that is just short of their goal of 80k total I think that's dang close though. That's pretty impressive clever timing Starting your nevada gigafactory going in the middle of ce s that you think what a coincidence But still that I don't that there's no way you can work bad news into this I mean unless it catches fire or something Right yet You know And then finally bmw intel and mobile I have an alliance aimed at putting a fleet of 40 autonomous bmw 7 series test cars on the road in the second half of the year Starting in the us and then in europe qualcom is working with outy ericsson swarco traffic systems in the university of kaiser Slouton on a new consortium called the connected vehicles to everything of tomorrow or convex with capital v's and x's Meanwhile ford and toyota have formed the smart device link or sdl consortium with several other automakers and parts suppliers That consortium will open source toyotas sdl software platform with plans to commercialize it by 2018 Ford says it's gonna be all in on sdl, but we'll continue to support apple carplay and android auto So it's basically all in on everything Yay There was so much in that I have a running uh wager with someone at my office about when Autonomous vehicles are going to sort of be at the norm versus like what we currently have I guess and and like he's gone super short 2020 really like 2020 like and I'm sort of more like 2030 or something like that But you you see this stuff coming out every week almost every day now as like we're going to support this We're doing this we're testing this You know uber doing this making our drivers redundant in the next five years like It it seems to be that that uh, yeah, that that uh, was it Boyle's law or no, that's the the hockey stick Yeah, it's just we're at that point where it's everything is going crazy this autonomous Well, and this is the beginning of the platform or as you're right Allison like there's so many things in the story that I just read because everybody's saying we've we've got the platform Please use ours put it in your cars Because we want to be the one that everyone uses and make all the money And there'll be a lot of beta maxis left over when that's done But the the thing that uh makes me think it's farther away. I really want it tomorrow I want it. I want to like I don't want to drive home. Uh, but Somebody pointed out to me that if you today said, okay, we have the solution We are going to make all cars are going to be autonomous starting today It would be five years before you'd get to start doing that if we already have the solution all worked out figured out We're already go all the laws were in place You would be able to start now you'd start maybe in five years So 2020 might be when the first one rolls off the line and gets to a customer But you're probably closer on 20 30 before it's mainstream. Yeah, that makes me sad But I put $5,000 down on one. You had me a kaiser schlautern by the way from a man who can't pronounce l'oreal Now I feel bad for pointing that out He doesn't he he uses much more high-end hair care products. That's why he doesn't That's what it is. I scrubbing down there in the minor leagues with your l'oreal Hey, uh, big thanks to uh, rich dropolino who's been filling in on daily tech headlines this week and doing a stellar job If you need to keep up with the tech headlines each day in less than 10 minutes Subscribe to daily tech headlines.com and that's a look at the top stories All right, we're gonna swap the couch. Thank you, allison.  That's yes, allison go I always like to pick the weirdest obscurest thing that you don't Won't ever see probably. Uh, we saw a thing from a company called acoustic arts. That's with a k instead of a c It's uh, 216 Parabolic speaker coils little tiny ones may have a few millimeter. No Maybe a centimeter in diameter that form a hexagonal speaker and it's directional So they're doing uh beam forming shaping of phase and amplitude in order to get the audio directly at you And this won't be sold on its own But it'll be the kind of thing they could put say in a hospital where you want to watch tv But the poor joker next you really doesn't want to hear what you're gonna hear And you'll be able to hear those things separately and you could see it obviously in home applications to save marriages But there's a there's a lot of places they could use it's it's a tiny little company They had six people in this company, but they had they had their game on it It's really cool for a while too. Did they have any any indications of partners or yeah, they talked about a bunch of partners They didn't have launch dates on it But they did they were talking to uh, they're you're working with other companies It would be something you'd integrate into it He brought up like a a taxi driver being able to hear all the directions and stuff and not annoying the people in the car You know this we annoy each other easily That was my top number one pick of us. Yes, Raj. What about you? I want to say the hairy grower which was on the floor at cs unveiled last night But I don't know the name of it and it's a in my mind a snake oil product So I'm going to say speed x which is a bicycle manufacturer who last year kickstarted the leopard Was a all-in-one sort of carbon fiber frame I'm a I'm a cyclist and I follow professional cycling. So this is interesting to me And a bike computer built into it this year They've come out with unicorn which they're kick starting again like they did with the leopard Starting from around 3000. So it's not the cheapest sort of bike out there But it has a new computer with touchscreen controls inbuilt power meter, which is a new feature and welcome one and the frame also uses this It adjusts the seat post three mil each way to absorb Vibrations when you're cycling along so making it a smoother ride without losing any power which can often be the case So the unicorn that it's in day three. I think of its kick starting thing It's already exceeded it by you know a million percent, but It looks really excited people. I met on the floor last night. That guy was amped up about that bike I really like it. I've spoken to a couple cyclist friends the first one didn't review that that well But this one looks like a huge improvement. Yeah, I'm really excited to see it Thanks again you guys. Thank you pod feet.com. Of course to check out allicin's works That's a great place right place. Go there subscribe and roge Recona.com.au. I'm doing a series. This is my first year. So I'm doing a series called stories from a ces version And it's just sort of taking things as I come and and what it's really like being here So it's about technology though. Don't get oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah Yeah, no piano All right while you guys swap out the couch I'm going to let folks know about some of the things that happened the lg press conference And then we'll start talking about them with patrick and shannon The sj9 4k sound bar The 4k in a sound bar refers to the lossless bit rate of more than 4,000 kilobits per second Which actually detracts from the fact that this seems like a really good sound bar It's got dolby atmos enabled coming in the next few months for 1500 dollars There's also the w series 4k tv's that are 2.6 millimeters thick and can be mounted flat against the wall In fact, you have to mount them flat against the wall. They won't stand up on a stand Thin cable connects to a dolby atmos sound bar that comes with it So you'll have to put something below it to hold that sound bar and that has all the hdmi inputs and such if you're wondering where the cables go There's also a bunch of other televisions that got announced All lg panels now cover 99 of the dcip3 gamut have 25 higher peak brightness and improved anti-reflectivity Also support active hdr as well as technicolors advanced hdr and hdr 10 dolby vision and hgl They're covering all the hdr protocols we hgl is that one we mentioned monday It's kind of a newer one that people are integrating There's also 55 and 65 inch crystal sound oled panels with sound embedded in the panel So you don't have a separate speaker. It just comes out of the television itself No models announced for that, but that's something they were showing on before we get to the robots The laptop and the phones though. What did you guys think of of lg's tv play? I think it's interesting The thing that really connected with me as far as the lg press conference goes My favorite thing was the crystal sound display and maybe that's escaping it had a little bit, but I thought it was kind of fascinating Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it was really cool Just because you know, they're saving space You're not worrying about crappy speakers at the bottom that nobody's going to use already So I'm curious how the quality is Um, and I'm hoping it's better than what you usually see built into tv's. Yeah, I like the idea I just wanted the idea is cool. And I'm not a big audiophile. So I have to sound Patrick on the other hand, you probably will call me a philistine. No, I would never call you a philistine at least not about this Um, there's so many other places we can argue the uh, well, it was weird right because, um, samsung showed off their their, uh, new televisions last night Which looked gorgeous and they're like Right and they're like we have a hundred percent of this color space And their big thing was like, okay, you jack the brightness all the way up and we don't lose any color saturation So you have these, you know super bright colors and you know better Details and dark sections of the screen And you know, there's a little fiber optic line and a power cable that runs down from their one inch 1.7 inch thick monitor the next day um, you know, we're all sitting in the audience and and uh Somebody was telling me was like, I thought they were going to talk about using double stick tape to hold the 2.3 millimeter Thick monitor in the wall instead. They're using a magnet system And part of me was It was like, you know, it's got a little bit of flex to it and their whole thing is like it's You have to be this close to the wall for it to be a truly immersive window like experience And I'm like, you know, I got a I got a hundred inch projection screen um, that's like 18 inches off the wall and uh, it's pretty immersive So it's there's been so much hype and so many announcements. Um The soundbar underneath that lg. It's like they went We're doing this fiscated analysis of bringing consumption into a real world environment by minimizing intrusion And then we got the guy that did kylo ren's helmet to design our soundbar and look there's pop-up So it does dolby atmos so and if you have your own soundbar You can bypass the one that comes with it, but you can't remove it Yeah, because that's where the basically the power and that's where your hdmi inputs and everything It's so you're gonna build like, you know, it's it's frustrating right because then you've got people like uh tcl In high sense who are like, hey, we're going for middle america. We're gonna bring, you know Qhd in quantum dot technology to everybody as fast as we can as far as tcl is going And it's also funny because there's so much positioning Like there's at least two companies are like we're number three And then the other guy's like we're number three and you're just sitting here and going like, oh You're all pretty. Yeah. Well, it's like I expect David atmo You know the the chinese manufacturer is now going to display pasture in an attempt to capture the mate the north american television market You know, it's just it's just weird watching all this stuff play out Uh, let's get to the robots robot wise lg showed off the hub and hub mini that not exactly robots They're basically amazon echoes with faces Uh that control smart home devices Play music, etc Airbot is one that does move around a lot It will guide you in the airport coming to inch on airport in soul later this year lg also added amazon voice services to its web os powered Insta view door in door refrigerator Uh, so you can instead of having a dash button just tell your refrigerator reorder your things Samsung has a computer built into the door of the refrigerator. We must have a computer built into the door of the refrigerator To hack all of these things.  Keep in mind lg just announced that they took the people who made palm pilots operating system And put it in a door with a voice system from the people who used to deliver you books Just some historical perspective. It's gonna be so smooth. I mean, you know, that was our voice services works really well That part that part actually could make some sense. I could see it playing out I don't I don't need a smart fridge other ways The question always is and has been at ces since 1990s Is this the smart fridge that people finally find a need for? It's gonna have to be at the right cost because if it's not people aren't gonna buy it until their their current fridge dies out I know all about that from my past week, which has been terrible as far as Yes, it broke right before ces terrible timing It's one of those conveniences you forget that when it breaks You've got to find a place for all this food temporarily until you get a solution It is kind of the worst thing ever Yeah, so so the only way that I can see like this really happening on a wide scale for consumers is If it's cheap enough that they can go out and buy it when it's an emergency because nobody's gonna buy a fridge Unless you're getting a new house and it doesn't come with that appliance already or your thing breaks That's about it or your children start eating more and you suddenly realize your refrigerator is too small Well, I think you need a smart fridge I was chatting with with cow wings from iFixit last night and uh some of the crew from the wire cutter And that was one of the things that came up as discussion was there's all this intelligence And and and all of this computerization going into appliances Which seems to be dramatically reducing the lifespan of the appliances Which may be wonderful for the large consumer electronics companies, but really pisses off everybody You know, that's like a you know, you're looking at $3,000 $5,000 refrigerator Not me but for one with a big shiny panel in the door that gives you semi useful information until they stop updating the software And when that breaks or or the software, you know stops becoming useful Then you've just got a refrigerator with a broken panel. Yeah in it for years I mean that that will if these were to catch on that would be the future college room Rental is like the broken the broken smart fridge that still cools. It just doesn't have any Just put a magnetic mount mount for a tablet on the fridge. There's a whole third party accessory market They can't keep television operating systems update and they're selling a lot more televisions than they are Refrigerators, that's my thing. I mean, well, and I have heard a lot of people talking about future proofing the internals of their television to make sure that They rogu, you know, yeah I did want to mention what the robots too like we're we're seeing so many different companies come out with these and while I don't think that 2017 is going to be the year of the Uh, like home-assisted robot that moves around your house and does stuff other than like Yeah, I don't think it's the year for that But I think that we're beginning to see that trend and we'll see it really like hard to core in a few years When the prices drop and there's manufacturing going on for a lot of different companies and there are a lot more competition Um, and I love seeing big name companies like lg and other ones doing this Because you know, we're already seeing those kind of things happening in tokyo, for example Like in malls and places like that so to bring it to a consumer market is going to be really really cool But I just I just don't feel like it's there quite yet Everybody's trying to claim they have the lightest laptop by putting various modifiers in front of it But the lightest 14 inch laptop is the lg gram And it still is the 2.16 pound laptop isn't getting heavier, but it is finally getting decent battery life That was the knock on the lg gram last year So they announced a new one 21 hours of battery life on a charge no price of availability on that And the lg mid-range phones the e-series and lg stylus 3 were announced They had better cameras bigger batteries and some come now with fingerprints to hensers no price or release date Easy for me to say no price or release date was a big theme in the last notice that too. It's 36 hours It's always true. It's yes, but it's it's worse this year It just feels so much worse. Well patrick, why is that? I'm curious What do you think the reason is is it just they're just not ready is yes to Holiday they're trying to sell out the channel before they got the channel sales by you know giving exact dates for the new thing arriving I don't know Maybe they want to have their own announcements that pretend they're apple. Yeah I don't think anybody wants to pretend to be apple this year Panasonic and qualcom announced their ivi aka in vehicle infotainment the worst acronym i've seen So far this year Uh, it's android nougat based but not android auto Though google is involved in the project So it's a little confusing what's actually going on, but it's running on android nougat combines a snapdragon a 20 a.m Automotive processor with adrino 530 graphics 680 dsp and a high speed lte modem Automakers can customize it as a factory oem and here's an example of panasonic hoping to future proof something because they're like Yeah, we know you're not going to change your car out every two years unless you're leasing I guess but This this way it should last for a couple of generations Well when I get to the nissen story, I'll also say that for you as well Panasonic announced more details on the lumix gh5 camera. It's 13 larger than the gh4 has a full-size hdmi port It's freeze proof in other words cold proof along with dust and splash proof Micro four third sensor now has 20.3 megapixels and it features five axis in-body image stabilization It can do 4k video at up to 60 frames per second That's the big thing everybody seems to be impressed with and it can also do 1080p at 180 frames per second body cost 1,099 1,999 Just say 2,000 it's easier. It's a lot of money coming in late March Panasonic also announced the lumix fz80 and the lumix gx850. I'm sorry fz80 And gx850 a set of mid-tier cameras that'll cost 400 and 500 dollars Yay, I love seeing new cameras coming on the market, especially one that can do 4k at 60 And yes, it is a big deal because a lot of cameras that are available right now do 4k with 30 fps Which is okay, and it looks great And but 60 is like there's a you can see a huge quality difference if you look at them side by side The problem that you run into a lot with like editing and podcasting and stuff like that is Where can you upload it that people can actually watch it 4k at 60? I'm gonna interject here because this is one of the most hotly anticipated Cameras for camera nerds the gh5 because up until now it's all been sony because sony is the big sensors The glass is okay. It's super expensive for what you get, but it's a sensor. Everyone's going gaga the gh5 if it does What the what the little brochure says in the real world and I'm sure Thousands of people want to get their hand on it. It could be a huge boost for Panasonic in the And the camera market which in itself is diminishing because people are just taking photos with their cameras $2,000 for that kind of camera is a great price point, especially when you look at sony like you mentioned roger Like sony's nice cameras are In the $3,000 price range. So you get one for 2,000 bucks. That's awesome. It's a body only but still yeah Yeah, you can buy the cheaper lenses maybe Panasonic also announced a new edition of its techniques turntable Remember it revived the techniques brand last year at ces this one is the sl 1200 gr The direct drive eliminates clogging. There's new resonance deadening rubber on the platter among other tweaks There's also the 45 in i'm sorry 44 inch tall Floor standing sb g90 speakers with dual 6.5 inch woofers a 6.5 inch mid-range cone And one inch dome tweeter with a frequency response range of 27 kilohertz to 100 kilohertz at 16 decibels and 4 ohms That only means anything to you geeks, but it means a lot of things to you theater home theater geeks And to complete this 1970s era sounding announcement the reference class su g 700 amp in an all aluminum case with analog needle meters High-speed silent hybrid power supply and load adaptive phase calibration It also on the back where you can't be pulled out of your 1970s dream has usb b Digital coax and digital optical inputs and outputs and chrome cast audio built in Amptops out at 140 watts at 4 ohms and 70 watts at 8 ohms no price or release date though They're going for the audio file nerds at least for that with that amplifier The techniques turntable be curious to see i mean that's i think of that and i think of like wheels of steel and dj's Yeah, oh no the techniques was day regra for all the radio stations i've ever worked at yeah the uh i i'm curious It's gonna like there's so many speaker announcements coming that we're not going to hear anything about until the venetian opens tomorrow From all of the speaker manufacturers i'm i'm just going to reserve judgment until i've gotten to hear a whole bunch of stuff Yeah, but You know that big chunky volume knobs scott Dude that stuff's awesome right like uh I think a lot of people when they heard they were sort of reviving the techniques and saying yeah Turntables aren't dead yet Is maybe proof that there are enough audio files into retro hardware and kind of the idea that Still, you know vinyl sounds the best that they're banking on it in a way that is really fun to watch So i have zero interest in this product like none whatsoever, but i am so glad it exists I mean that that sg 700 amp part of the reason they're doing that is because there is a huge aftermarket in ebay and craigslist and all sorts of Of you know particular audio websites where people are like i want that 70s those 70s amplifiers are actually in many cases Selling for two or three times what they paid for In 19 People think they have a certain sound or the style they're particularly like And so that's that's also a total of like, you know, we're targeting the millennials And the boomers and anybody who misses like the giant volume knob or the giant Actually, the tuning knob would be the other classic like 1970s feature Let's finish off with high sense High sense announced a 100 inch 4k hdr laser tv The laser means it uses a short throw laser projector to hit an included screen So you don't buy your own screen and set it up. It's not a projector Except in that it is a projector, but it's all in one combined with a 5.1 sound all for only $13,000 If that's slightly too expensive for you. There's also the 4k hdr h10 d series has quantum dot wide gamut full array local dimming comes in 70 and 75 inch models starting at $3,499 this summer price and release date there wow The h9 series is about the same but no quantum dot 50 55 and 65 inch versions starting at $699 in march now we've gone Way back down 4k hdr h8d series has wide color gamut support in both 75 and 86 inch variations And features d led local dimming in motion 120 the h7 series starts at $399 for 43 inch models up to $899 for the 65 inch And 75 inch r8 and 43 to 65 inch r6 4k hdr Roku tv's were announced as well. Finally high sense is going to offer soundbars for the first time Ranging from 79 bucks up to 300 bucks for full 5.1 surround So literally half of this information was announced 45 minutes into the press conference about two minutes after I ran Out of the high since press conference to come here They they apparently so high sense is like I think the biggest chinese tv manufacturer And then they've got like 40 of the market over 70 inches Their their laser tv their you know is has been Around for a while in china. They're going to finally bring it to the united states There's a weird like yeah, we're gonna we've been you know We bought the sure factory and we've been investigating quantum dot technology for quite some time And we admit that it will be important to replace led, which is a mature technology But they really think lasers it's all about the lasers and they look good I'd really like to hear is I haven't know seen anybody who's actually had a chance to test one in the united states So i'm curious, you know, they may be hues in china Will they play here 13 grand is a metric ton of money even for a short throw projector Yeah, I mean it's a hundred inches and it's a short throw projector But that's still a lot. I mean, yeah, that's that's not a high volume product that said like 4k You can't really buy a 4k projector right now for 10 less than $10,000 So a short if you know a short throw 4k projector with decent color Illuminance and in dolby video support that would be a big deal or at least a Currently a reasonable price for that. You're gonna pick one up scott. No I I'll say this though like I my brother-in-law's gotta have how many interest screen in his basement And I could easily see him doing this as a potential replacement for what he has now because he wants to upgrade he wants to get out of 1080 and um I don't think he'd see this is that much because it requires a whole lot less to do He can just basically move this thing in place of what he's got and he's got his tv And he's got all the advanced features that he's looking for So I actually think there might be a market for those who are now seeing Their home theater systems are starting to age a little bit And they did a big custom job in the first place and this is maybe the cheaper way to go All right, uh as we are speaking the toyota conference is going on, uh write downstairs And the big thing that's coming out that all the blogs are writing up at the moment is the concept i Vehicle, which is a concept vehicle not a production model But it's got you know futuristic design aerodynamic shape all that stuff But the big thing is the artificial intelligence built in named yui designed to learn and grow with the driver So toyota has been doing a lot with ai in automotive and this is their big announcement of like, okay All of that stuff we've been talking about here's what we're going to do with it There's a visual representation of yui designed to communicate across cultures to a global audience says toyota With yui's home centered on the dashboard Concept eyes interior emanates around the driver and passenger side and throughout the vehicle and sweeping lines and blah blah Yui's ability to use light sound and even touch to communicate critical information So basically what they're doing is trying to create a friendly interface for your in-dash experience and one that learns About you and can adjust the car appropriately. You don't really want to go to the convenience store tom You want to go get vegetables? Yeah, so it's like amazon voice series Services or siri or something like that tom you should go exercise now. Let me into the car Yui You should walk tom. It's less than a mile It even appears on exterior door panels to greet you as you approach the vehicle back off tom. You need your exercise Yeah You also haven't brushed your teeth or brushed your hair go out like that We are we are entering a new era of concept car, right? Like we're getting into a place where it's no longer just how sleek and smooth and futuristic the car looks It's about what is it doing for me outside of just driving new places or me driving it somewhere That's pretty exciting and I don't feel like we've seen enough of that yet So I suspect the next few years of car shows in detroit and otherwise We'll end up being a lot more of this kind of thing and a lot less of look at the sleek lines on the new thunderbird Look at the rear of the vehicle shows messages to communicate about upcoming turns or potential hazards to the car behind it I kind of like that. It's kind of like that. I want to enter can I hack those messages to say other things? Like you're tailgating me. You're tailgating me You know, it's one thing I've noticed a lot of these intelligent products have one thing in common. They nag you It's really just a 21st century of nagging you to do stuff.  Go get bread. Go do your laundry. Your laundry is dirty.  It's like no Well, it's because these 20-something guys are running these companies They're the ones that are creating all these products. It's not just but it's also companies Targeting the 20s like the millennials that are like, but it's but it's I mean we saw something a couple years ago Where it was it was it was like the the the new bus talk rabbit except it was this horrible little Thing that basically was the artificial mother And I was just you know, it's it's just the the worst possible version of the sort of the nanny state Is having a device in your home that can follow you around and whinge at you because you can't complete a list Are good. I like all the features. I think what rogers reacting to is the personality of like I'll take care of everything for you But that's also what they're selling multiple personalities. You can have like a gruff new york cab driver personality Instead of yeah, but I mean like whether it sounds like my wrestling coach or or or the ai from her But I'm with roger. It's still like, you know, you didn't learn how to fold laundry It's okay spend seven hundred dollars. We're actually to be able to tell me like hey that guy's driving weird We're gonna pull back out. There's a curve coming up like that's all good stuff I want to have that information by the time the car can do that. I just want to sit in the car and wake up Nine hours later that's where it's in the middle of of some beautiful park being the autonomous car That nags you as a passenger You're slouching sit up roger straight in your autonomous car Hey, uh tomorrow on the show we'll discuss the announcements from this evening. CES press announcements. Maybe some more from toyota Samsung Hyundai intel sony nvidia the digital experience showcase this evening that we'll all be going to and thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit Let's us know which of all of these things you're interested in you can go participate in that at daily tech news show reddit.com Before we go out of here Do each of you have something we haven't mentioned yet that you noticed that you wanted to talk about You probably mentioned it yesterday, but i'm still fascinated by the minivan for millennials I did not we did not talk about it. Okay, so so fiat chrysler america Like you know they have like the opening keynote at the extra day extra the new super first day at cES and it's like You know Here's fortune magazine fiat chrysler's new concept car aims to win over millennials of any age And other people are like it's a minivan But for millennials and it's electric and the doors slide forward and back and Whether it's it for millennials again. I don't know Because they're desperate to sell to millennials There's been a lot of millennial targeting in the last 24 hours. It's a thing It's a thing. I don't know how well some of these companies are doing it But they certainly desperately want the millennials to buy the stuff. Yeah So janin, what about you? Um I saw a lot of stuff that you normally see at cES like smart cat things and smart dog things It's not cleaning litter boxes. Yes, exactly. So mine is very random It's called the shade craft and we while I haven't seen the actual product I saw a video of it and I was able to talk to one of the pr people about it but we should see it either tonight or at pepcom and It's basically a shade for your back patio and it's very very large so it can cover a very large space But it's it has solar panels on it. So it's totally powered on its own So you never have to go in your backyard and open it up yourself So and it's has all the normal like Proofing that you would have weather proofing and all that stuff, but it also has smarts built-in So there's an application that you can run and it will automatically change The shade path depending on where the sun is nice as it moves during the day So it'll move for you and you don't have to get up and change it yourself And it has a 360 panoramic camera built in so you can like check the security of your backyard The squirrels are in the begonias again.  Oh, yeah, it has speakers too. That's right bluetooth speakers They literally thought of everything with this thing. It's so ridiculous And of course I was like, well, what's the security like and she was just like, I don't know And I was like tls. This is all you know. No, we didn't think of everything Yeah So we we shall see how secure it is. But uh, yeah, that would be my pick for ridiculous things at ceo Scott, have you seen anything just watching from from afar that's caught your eye? I'm just curious What's really interesting to me is what we haven't heard yet. I want to know what the digital experience showcase is tonight It's one of my favorite bits every year in terms of what I gleaned from it I am specifically very curious about what nvidia is doing in the next year and two years They're in a weird place right now. They've got Kind of a stranglehold in some of their markets and have been real limp in the places They've tried to enter in the last 18 months or so. So I'm very curious about what their Direction is what their plan is what partnerships they announce As a you know a pretty avid gamer that that makes That gets me excited on that level, but just overall what does a company like nvidia become in the next five years? What do they help power? Where are they in mobile? You know, what are they doing with autonomous cars? What are they powering with their chips? Like that kind of stuff. I think is super interesting. So Yeah, I'm looking forward to that quite a bit I predict they've they've backburned mobile and they're going to be hitting really really mention 3d gaming other than to point out that hey, we're taking names and kicking ass autonomous cars and machine learning That's a good All right. Uh, well before you guys go, uh, you're both tech thing. So oh, yeah, we do a thing.com Uh, anything else to tell folks about shannon? Um, that's about it. Oh, I do this other podcast It's called hack 5 h a k 5.org and that one's about hacking tech thing is about consumer And threat wire is the other podcast you do. Oh, yeah, I do that too. It's called threat wire and you can find that at hack 5 too And patrick I'm also going to try to get robert heron intoxicated later this weekend to record avi excel Because there's nothing more awesome than listening to robert argue about color spaces while slightly tipsy I'm just saying it's a spectacle. That sounds awesome avxl dot com He's going to be arguing over it thin film is done Um Excellent, I can't wait for that episode. Uh, all of those are available at h a k 5.org. Yes, they are Go check it out. Uh, big thanks to all the folks who make it possible for us to travel here Do the show bring it to you every day. 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Thank you guys All right titles C s kicks off Yeah, what do we got for titles there roger s e s kicks off tesla releases faraday from its cage the paw of patrick norton The paw 50 states of facebook because they made a reference to Patrick's hand getting into the get in the shot the internet of nagging Daily tech photo bomb, but faraday goes to 11 Is your let's just say right now that we're not going to use any of the ones that refer to inside jokes that happened If you're not if you're not paying attention to the news Okay, two turntables and four microphones. Alison lurks with eyes Smart nagging. Oh, I actually like that one Allison is too social I say let people keep voting because c. Yes kicks off is still tops c. Yes kicks off is What I have in the youtube Thing so we could just go with that almost forgot the level eight got the level eight Uh, yeah, I'm not looking at show about the tv. What so what are the top contenders c. Yes kicks off the paw of patrick norton And tesla releases faraday from it. We're not using the paw of patrick norton You just asked me you asked me what's bleeding. I wanted your opinion. I'm sorry. Oh, well, that's different I prefer the internet of nagging because I that's what it all sounds like Because that's what c. Yes. Oh, let me take you to smart fridge nag nag nag Smart bidet nag nag nag you should eat more fiber nag nag nag But daily tech news show nag nag nag the best tag nag nag nag Use encryption make sure you log out of your security sessions Don't use public wi-fi nag nag nag Uh, I don't feel as nagged by these things. All right. All right Okay, c. Yes kicks off would be my second. Yeah, which let's just do that c. Yes kicks off That works Although the paw of patrick norton is pretty up there Yeah, but that if you just listen to the audio podcast that's not gonna make any sense is it? No, but you'll get a giggle. Will you? Uh, patrick norton go together like peanut butter and chocolate Scott, thank you by the way, uh, it looks like everything worked on this end. Oh good I'll save this in case anything happens, but I'll have it kind of backed up But thank you for making up for my uh, my amnesiac for getting up my soundboard No worries and uh, thank you for helping me get past l'oreal and Disappearing news item. I don't know what happened there. Yeah So what did happen to that that that was the only bump in the road there was like something disappeared Was that did you actually when I saw so at one point during one of my read something Went poof and I had and my eyes were like, whoa, everything shifted up like immediately But I went up to see the one that I was reading and I think it must have been whatever that was between then got taken out Yeah, what got deleted somehow some one got deleted and then they started getting pasted in the wrong place Yeah, I didn't do any pasting. So I don't know I was moving things around because While I was reading one and one got deleted you went to one that was farther down So then I'm like, oh well now we need to adjust and I think that made the confusion worse I think there might have just been a lag because in those that was like you did something But it didn't reflect on anyone else looking at it For another second or two Yeah, that might have yeah, it just I was hands-free when it happened And I thought oh no, what have I done and I couldn't figure out what I was looking at and Yeah, it made for a pretty funny moment though. So I'm not gonna say it was all bad And then I couldn't remember which tcl one you had read right Turns out it was both Hey, you read them both see that's I got too distracted Yeah, no, he read them both he read them both and then you mentioned that you didn't I screwed that up Oh, everyone's to blame everyone's No blames and it was fun No, it was good. It was a good show. Yeah made me laugh As long as we could laugh that's all that matters. That's all that really matters really at the end of the day That's all we have our laughter. Yeah, whether Scott laughs or not They're having secret conversations over there Yeah, I hear I hear some chatter tip chatter and Shannon's playing Pokemon. They're discussing the size of Patrick's paw You know what they say about the size of a man's father. That's right his paw Yes, this pa w. All right, um export and Uh, you know just to make things easier. I'm probably gonna end our video stream now Uh, but thank you everybody for watching. Hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back again tomorrow


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It's such a great honor to receive the Distinguished Engineering Award at Purdue. I've been thinking about this day and thinking about all the wonderful memories I've had at Purdue. And in so many different ways, I feel like Purdue has been kind of the foundation, and has really kind of helped me set the right foundation for myself and has helped me kind of, you know, get to a lot of these amazing experiences over the last decade and a half because of the time I spent at Purdue. So a few things come to mind on this very special day. I still remember my first day at Purdue, I took a flight from India to Indiana and kind of this cold, I think it was kind of a cold fall day, but I remember checking into Kerry Quad, that was my first dorm that I stayed in. And up until this point, I had never actually lived away from home. And so just kind of being halfway around the world and the other side and kind of meeting all these amazing kind of new folks who were joining college with me was exciting, but also fairly nerve wracking for me just kind of being so far away from friends and family. But you know, I think Purdue was just kind of, I think, filled with really warm people, people who I've still kind of kept in touch with built so many amazing friendships and relationships with, whether it's the people I met there as fellow kind of students, but also professors that I'm still in touch with. So I think, as I look back, you know, I've now been in the professional world for 14 years since I graduated Purdue, but Purdue was back in 2003 was the place I had my first job. I took the job as kind of as part of the food crew or kind of the, you know, in Kerry Quadrangle, and, and it was a simple job was just kind of cleaning and making sure like all the dishes are in order, and that made me understand the value of time and money and kind of was the first time I got to like earn something and I remember spending many weeks kind of getting my paycheck, which allowed me to maybe fly to New York on my own for the first time and that really kind of made me feel a lot more independent and from there on, I did many more jobs at Purdue I kind of did research, I was a lab assistant. And then I landed my first real internships part of the Purdue co-op program, but I got to work at Lutron, which was also started by a Purdue alum. And I did a few rotations there. And it really kind of made me into the person I am today. I've kind of had a wonderful career since then but I think those early days those early kind of internships really had a huge impact and kind of building the discipline. And kind of kind of keeping your, you know, keeping the focus and working hard towards towards kind of the goals you have. I think it really kind of those experiences had a huge impact on me. And then I think to kind of close it out. I think also in the work side. I remember being in my last year at Purdue and I was really itching to move out west and kind of get into the world of venture capital. And even though a lot of the VC firms don't end up coming to Purdue, I was able to talk to the advisor. I also talked to Dr. Balakrishnan was a professor. And then also talk to folks who were really kind of were connected to alums, Purdue alums around the world. And I remember someone connected me to SDL, which became my kind of first full-time job after college. It was literally Purdue helping me kind of land in California. And that literally changed my life. I mean, I think that led to me kind of joining Stanford the year after. And Stanford, I think probably valued a lot of the research work that I did with Dr. Perulus at Purdue that actually eventually led to a paper that's been cited so many different times. As an undergrad, you know, this was kind of a dream that happened during my time there. I can kind of go on and on, but I think just kind of thinking about my professional world, so many of my experiences at Purdue has really made me who I am today. And also there's a lot of fun. I still remember I think Purdue was just kind of every Saturday morning waking up to, I remember I kind of lived one year in hotel apartments right next to the stadium and just the excitement people had going into these games. It was just extraordinary to feel just kind of the amount of pride each of our students and alums had. And something, the pride that I still have today, I think every time I see someone wearing a Boilerman sweatshirt, it's so fun to just go up to them and talk to them about these experiences that I had together. And then lastly, I think I would say it's been really fun to watch Purdue from the sidelines since I graduated 14 years ago. It's been amazing to watch how Purdue's been able to still remain affordable for everyone. It's expanded access to education. And I kind of serve on the board of the electrical computer engineering. And it's been really fun to watch how Purdue has emerged as one of the best run institutions. I feel really proud about that today. And so it's a real honor to accept this award for being a distinguished engineer. And I hope that I can continue to make Purdue University proud in the future.