Hello and good evening. Welcome to Sports Friday and you know when you see us, kilam tona juwaga sports imifika so yes, we are in the house and we are here to represent for all the sports lovers and fans all over the world when you're not a skia sasa. Now, I go by the name Eidi Ogoe and of course this is Sports Friday but as usual I'm not alone. I have my guest or should I say my analysts of the day on my end, of course, to kuna nanada dan Eidi Ogoe, when you come up and look to say Diyako breakdown, of course, or to it wa nyoba. Yes, and Karibuna mimi here just like in between us. We have Xavier Maluku. Yes, Xavier Maluku is also here with us to actually help us breakdown. Now a lot has been happening in the world of sports despite the losses we've had in the country like losing of course our former president Daniel Toritich Arabmoy who was one great, great, great helper and elevator of sports in Kenya na Mesaideasana. I think we can all agree on that one. Despite everything that has been said kwa sports niya ali cheza. I have to go to nuskeki zishi daza pesa like a rambiwa nanda akunda kucheza, akuna do. Very true. And that's for that and so much more will for my president. Now moving on to the stories that we have today. Let's start with the issue of the Olympics. Now we've been happy in the Olympics ever since it was announced the date that it akua held. This is because we are Olympic fans and we are also here to support our Olympic team. Now Kenya has taken issue with the Olympics kit. Yes, Kenya in public has taken issue with the Olympics kit. Now the Nike incorporated on Tuesday in New York and build part of team Kenya competition kit and world 1500 championship champion, Timothy Cheryot modeled for the main athlete competition kit alongside other countries like U.S. and Nigerian Brazil. Now this has packed nationwide reaction on social media as not most Kenyans were impressed with the design. Some even insinuated that if it is to be used, then Kenya team will have a bad luck going forward. Now guys, what do you think about it? Do you think it's that horrible? For example, a team like Manchester United wana po kuna waka tu ali kwa na taka kubarilisha Jezi, wali patia mashabi kilefursa kweza kugizain Jezi yamba waka waka na taka. So just to be clear about what you've just said, kitu waka wana wange patia public at least a chance yako participate kwa kutengelozei Jezi. Exactly. Alafu kitu apili mi, he Jezi kwa kwa haiku fraisha takidomu. Paeni fraishi, nakaki tenge jo. Okay, Xavier. But anyway, however, have you achieved still win in the Olympics? So it takes no precedent on our performance? No precedent but also I think I don't know who designs and who manufactures but the person who designed if is from Kenya he was sleeping on the job because if you check the USA, the Brazil Jezi, they are very, they are wow but when you check the Kenyan ones, very fake. But I'm still waiting on the rugby side and the volleyball side. But most likely takotuni kitu kama I assume because normally tunavaga kitu like zina align. So I wouldn't really expect them to bring something different but then again I would actually, I would actually how would I put this delicately. Now Nailaum grievances enyum but me I really don't think it's that bad. Me personally I think this time at least to lijaribu kitu to 40 but it's like nikama veni nijeru alibadi lisha Jezi yaya tin watu enkwa nyi nijeru alitata but sa isu na onatu wa me kubali wa kutu sa Ami sii ya kata kubadi lisha kubadi lisha sii ma kosa Sii da li kenya li badili siya? Ata sii sii shidam, sii da ni isu ati mi tiniwali badili siya nai shidi anguni hawa kupati wa kenya elefursa piya kweza kupatisipati in the design. Jumi na jiyo kuna ma design wa kali wakuni je hapa nchi ni ken. We focus on the pit what will be on the pit so we don't want to go with a lot of fashion right now let us wait in olympics in julei and see what's kwa this is the first time that kenya has actually taken issue with the Jezi that we are going to use in the olympics. I have never really had any other Jezi being so much causing so much commotion ever since I started watching olympics naba de nilianza kucho olympics kitambosana yes yes nilianza kucho olympic mini oji yes now moving forward to the next story now Fifa had a hands decision to ban kenyan players kpl players that is on when is the defender festas o o kirin currently of ulinzi festas omukuto omukuto of western steamer anima festas wengi and moses chikita of homeboys who are banned for three years each while Ugandan George Mandela was handed life ban for taking part in any kind of football related activities at national and international level following the involvement in march manipulation kakamega homeboys team manager boniface imbenzi has faulted the federation for ignoring some of the allegations and complaints for the affected teams a development that threatens to ruin the credibility of local football now guys this is not the first time that we have in these cases there was a time that there was uh i remember there was a time when fc lopas was also struggling and people used to say that the players were well were participating in gambling so walu kuanauza ma game but at at this point we need to mefika do you do you feel like uh this is something that should actually by now kunafa kuna better ways to actually deal with this because such things i think ivenye the homeboys kundinana say ma it really does discredit the credibility of local football in kenya what do you think we should do with such cases because before in fact before even go forward do you think that uh the punishment was harsh or just if uh i think for each i think the punishment is very harsh on the players but uh kitu chaku wa blame sanatana government the issue of money i think i'll discredit my kupanelia i think uh when you're a professional player i think you're supposed to know the rules of the game so if you are participating in any much fixing it's supposed to be life ban i support what fifa did and actually i must congratulate the kakamega homeboys chairman kliu fashimanyula for raising the issue early address the issue with uh with our local federation but they did not do any action so i concur with the decision that fifa took and i support that action but these things goes with the way we run our football like right now you are seeing there's financial issues in our deal so if you can able to carb such issues maybe maybe there'll be no room for much fixing i always like when my analysts disagree because it actually gives me both sides of the story in fact in this particular one they have just given me both sides of the story and from what i'm getting you guys do not agree on the ban now you i think kila mtwa moelewa but here's my second question okay what do you think we should do to actually prevent such actions from moving forward i think we run of football in the country should at least improve from the government side and the federation they should be working towards working together also in our players we should create some awareness some education so that because these players only come from the streets and go to the pitch to play and earn money there should be at least some education there's one thing you said you said the reason the reason as to which this is happening is because of the struggles that these players are going through and that's the reason why a player would actually go to the extent of going to to to gamble despite the fact that he is also involved in the match that is being played at that very specific moment so here's my question to you guys seeing that we know the causes the causes is financial causes what caused the problem problem was one we lost a very big sponsor now the government till today hasn't done anything to actually support that they've just been chipping in where they were chipping in before so moving forward how do we fix the issue of finance so that the players do not feel the need to actually go and gamble and throw away matches in regards in in in the in a bid to actually make money okay kituja kwanza kuna mpango anbao karo ral blu lal kwa me transition pangu wa kujaza study if we feel our stadium we as fans that is one of the kandona kujaza stadium sponsors should also step in we should also take our game so serious okay okay on this same issue i want to blame the government i think the management side also of the clubs if you see a club like gormayo they are struggling yet financial but the management is there so if you can create some good management in these other clubs they'll be they'll be sponsored well i think uh from serakalis idea to serakalis the issue we now know where we stand with that now we just hope that all will be sorted well and moving forward uh fkf will have better ways to actually deal with this so that fifa does not feel the need to intervene and take precedence on taking on making such judgments now moving to rugby a monday will be a doubt for los angeles and vankuva sevens kenya sevens keeper andruo monday is a doubt for los angeles and vankuva later this month the veteran forward picked a knock on his knee he has in shuja's 19 five loss to new zeland and will have to be assessed in the next days before the team resumes training next week without a short turn round time to the north american leg in the circuit the team will be named on february 20th and will depart for los angeles on february 22nd the powerhouse for powerhouse forward oska o'uuma and play maker sami oliech and utility back denise ombachi are in contention for a place in the squad having trained with the rest of the squad last month now guys this is something very interesting uh i i think moving this is this uh i have i i i i i i i i i i i i i have been watching the way we have been progressing ever since we had the new coach Hey, and I think despite the losses we've had because – Michua naka we have quite a few by the way – although this is a serious so that's bound to happen at some point. I think the rugby team is actually moving on in a good direction and most of our players as we go to Vancouver and Los Angeles most of our players, I think the best ones, like whether you see Oscar Umainehhh and Samio Lihatchan also Dennis Ambache being available – I don't think Andrew Monde will be such a miss, unless mimi kwa na different opinion na yinye, yinye mno naji? Structure wise, from the other regimes, there is some structure in the rugby team, the way they are bringing the deputants, the players from the other clubs, schools, the way they bring them to the national team, there is a good integration. And if you can see the losses even we had in Sydney and in Hamilton, New Zealand, where we had our best got 11 points. You can see even the way we are losing, but there is some progress in the team. Now, before we even move forward, that came in particular the one that you just mentioned, we were asked versus New Zealand. That was a very, very big loss and my question is moving forward, what do you think that Feyenei needs? Because we have been in a situation where we have all our best players, but we are still not performing as we used to. So what do we need to move forward and perform better as we go forward? In the whole series, if you see our first half, we are really winning or maybe holding for a draw, but when you see the second half, you are not able to hold and win the matches. So if maybe we can put some effort in the second half of the games, we are likely to do it better. If you see the way we have been pulled in Los Angeles, you have been pulled in South Africa, land and also Canada. And South Africa will beat them. So it is a pull that we are supposed to come as winners or maybe second runners up. But also the good thing is that there is a traditional way and they will be picking two teams, one and two. So maybe we can do better and move to the quarters. Okay, Edgar, what do you think, what opinion you have? Do you share the same opinion or do you have a different one? Yes, I concur with him. What Feyenei actually should actually be doing right now is focusing on kujia bada yalema pumziko. Just focus, concentrate on the game and kill the matches now. Okay, now one thing I have noticed personally as a fan in the Kenyan part to be precise is our team is struggling as much as they are making progress. It's like we're making two steps ahead and one step back. It feels like we're at least. But most of it has been blamed with the fact that we do have injuries that occur every now and then. Once we start progressing in a better direction, a very important player goes off due to injury and replacing him. Before that player catches up to the momentum, the other one at left becomes a problem and we end up struggling so much. But this is a tournament that always progresses. And I think this is something that we should look at seeing that this is a very, very, very important competition that we are in. This is a world recognized competition. I agree with you. That's why we need to use a lot of players during this series' time so that when you are going for the Olympics, we have much quality, we can just pick anyone and not seeing any big loss. Okay, now moving on to the next story we have, we actually moving to the international story of the day. Our Premier League has taken notice in banning players who are caught in discriminatory and abusive violent behaviors. This is all in relation to trying to reduce issues of racism. Now, all 20 Premier League clubs have committed to a league-wide ban for anyone who is found guilty for discriminatory and abusive and violent acts. Last season, England and Wales, a number of racism had raised to 47% from 131 marches to 193. In a bid to reduce such cases this week, a football supporter who made monkey gestures to Chelsea striker Tamiya Abrahamanspat towards rival fan has been banned for attending the marches for four years. Elsewhere, 17-year-old Bournemouth Fan has been given three years' football banning order after pleading guilty to chanting racist abuse during march against Tottenham. Now, I love the initiative that the Premier League is taking to actually reduce cases of racism. As you can see, there was reported increase of 47% from 131 to 193. That is a very big increase from 131 to 193 cases of racism. One case is 131 to 100. That's a very, very big margin. So Premier League has taken initiative to actually reduce such things, but do you think it's enough to ban a fan for four years, three years? Do you think it's enough? It's not an easy task to cut it, but I think the body that fights racism has really been letting us down, and if you see players... Wait, here's one thing I don't get. You say one of the reasons, according to what you've just said, one thing I've gathered is this sum. The increase is because it has been there for a while, right? So, now that it has been there for a while, don't you think that by now Tunafakwa na better ways to actually deal with it, because seeing that the way we're going in E, in Ezafika Mali, that atwezi control, na atwezi ka shindatuki se ma, racism iko, so iko, so tukai tunayo, because mimi vene mimi na yona. This is just how I see it, okay? Racism, yes, has been there, and it has taken us a very, very long while to actually get to a position where a white man and a black man can stand in the same place and have a conversation and laugh. But at this point, we have places where we go and enjoy a match together, and we are struggling to enjoy the match because the things that are being said there are offending us in one way or another. Now, I'm seeing us because I'm a black person as well, but this is in regards to the players who are in the field, who are suffering the same issues each and every time they go to the field. And each and every time they do come out and protest against it, but there is no firm action taken. Now, yes, FIFA has gone to an extent where they have banned a player for what, they have banned a fan for three years, four years, but do you believe that that is all that they need to do? Should there be a more strict measure to actually ensuring that, because Mugini Ambienis yende stadi, for three years, aina shida TV iko? One of the tough people I will really advocate for is relegating a team. If you are really a fan, you will not want your team to be relegated. So you believe the action should be taken against the team so that the team can take serious caution in educating their fans to do better when they come to the field? Yes, these teams, you are supposed to be ducted points, relegated, and also it's a collective response from the players. When you see a case in the Juventus game where Kin was racially abused, he scored, went to celebrate the fans, and then you could see the players not trying to support him, but trying to support the fans who are busy racially abusing Kin. So I think it's a collective response from all the players, the fans, and everyone. When you see England, Pokemon, Starling, I've tried this in the Premier League. True, true, true. Yes, I've seen it quite so many times there, but it has worked for them. Now Edgar, what do you think we should do? What do you believe should be best done in such a situation? Okay, as my co-analyst has said, mimi kwa pandewangu, kandona kwa maybe kwa tohazile puhinti kwa timu, vlevele faini pii ita fanya, it will work much better. A team should also be fined for such cases. Because we should not go beyond management, and we should not be forced to do so.  Here in Sports Friday we do advocate for non-racism. So we do believe that the measures that FIFA is taking are better, but they could do better. Or are good, or they could do better. Because personally, I believe, many tumifika, we shouldn't be having cases of racism. We are way too far from that. But then again, we cannot control each and everything that happens around the world. Now moving on to the next story, could Leonel Messi be set for summer exit? That's the question that most people are wondering. Considering the fact that Leonel Messi is or in his contract, there is a clause that allows him to live at the end of the season. Now the sixth time Ballon dior wina got into a heated public role with backersporting director Eric Abidal this week after he accused the player of not working hard enough and a former manager Ernesto Valvad. The 32-year-old disagreement, along with clause in his contract that allows him to live Barcelona for free at the end of the season, has led to reports he could be set to move in the summer windows. Pep Guardiola has urged Messi to stay at Barcelona amid speculation that he could leave the Camp Nou and join him at the 80th stadium. Now do you guys believe that there is a chance in the world that Messi and Izakatoka Barcelona? No, I don't think so. For me personally, the way I know the Barcelona management runs, Barcelona is Messi and Messi is Barcelona. One or another. I don't think so, but there could be a possibility since the contract runs till 2021, but he has a clause where if he's able to talk to the board by May, they could allow him to for free in the summer and we have transfer rumors that he could be linked to Man City. Yes. So there is a possibility because he was coached by Guardiola. He had the best days with Guardiola. So I think if he was to move out, the only club he can go to is Man City because I don't think Messi would want to play with Ronaldo in Juventas. Because there is a high possibility Ronaldo, if he wins the Champions League, he will take the 6th Bernaldo this time. So it will be 6 and 6. So I don't think Messi will want to go get the 7th playing alongside Ronaldo. Edgar, your opinion on this particular matter? Okay. The two players, Messi and Ronaldo, we've seen their dominance in the last decade na levele tume. Neza semakwa mbo tume, baya tika kuona wachiza, dikama wa kwaeza kuchiza. Kivi yungu, newa katimuafa kwaeza kwaeza kwaeza kwaeza kwaeza Barcelona na kujarebu kutafutana the challenge. Kwa sababu, unapuagyu na mutu kwaeba between Messi and Ronaldo, who is better. Mutua Ronaldo at a stand at the fact that Ronaldo has played Manchester United, Real Madrid, Juventus, and Messi has just stayed at Barcelona. So Messi at after challenge, lafutuana at a fanyagi. Kwaeza kwaeza kwaeza, I would actually love to see Messi play in another league. I would actually love him to see, I would love to see him play in another team at a ramasio, but at a ramani the same league, but another team, because I think this would be a little bit fun, this would be a little bit interesting. Seeing that, not just because he is being compared to Ronaldo, because that we all know how it will always go. Yaw ni nagogani amato rupino, it's like beauty, eyes of the beholder and everything. Messi has been linked out of Barcelona for several years now. Yes, and the reason why I mentioned PSG is because I remember a story way back when Barcelona wanted to take silver from PSG and when they made the first bid, the owner of Paris in Jemain, the prince, he was calm and didn't issue a statement at all. And when the second bid was issued, he also smiled and said, okay, no problem. And then when the third bid was issued, he said okay, that's just too much. You guys, if you issue another bid from today in Sforth, I tell you the truth, I will issue a bid for Messi and we will see if he will come or not. And from there, it was a different case, because ever since then, Barcelona have never actually ever bid for silver again. But then again, from what I've gathered from this story, I would really like to see Messi play in another league. I would like him to come to the Premier League, but then again, that's just not me. Now, your final comments on this story. So, for me, I ask the talker, but he also, he can't go to PSG because you remember when Barcelona were trying to get back the name. Football has shown as wonders. But you see, when it comes to transfers, also they must be good blood between the teams that are doing the transfers. That's why you were saying name could not be, could not go back to Barcelona because PSG were very adamant you're not saying. So, I'm very sure when PSG go for Messi, it would be, we're not saying. Edgar, what's your opinion on that? Well, this promises to be a very interesting summer transfer windows and we are really eagerly waiting to see what will happen. But from us to you, it's goodbye since we are out of time. I was your host, you'll go away. And of course joining me on set was none other than Edgar Obiru, who is one of my analysts and Xavi Xaviya. Yes, Xaviya Maluku. Sorry about that. Xaviya Maluku was also joining us today and helped us break down each and every story that we have discussed today from us. It's goodbye and we hope to see you next Friday when we bring you more sports from to, oh, or rather throughout the week. There are as much is that is coming up actually kuna gemi nakam after iso for the footwork, for the lovers of sports. Stay tuned more to come from this. Goodbye.


So, recording has started. This is Office Hours for September 28th, Jenkins documentation. Let's take a look at the agenda first. Jonathan, thanks so much for your marvelous preparation for it. We keep conversion progress summary top item. This is going to be a great topic to discuss. And then I've got a brief topic on terminology updates with proposal for how we approach it. So, anything else that should be on the agenda? Mark, just wanted to, like, verify October 1st participation. Can we participate before September 30th or just on September 30th? We need to join. Ah, so, good question. So, let's put it as what are the rules, rules and how do they apply? So, that's good question. So, let's put that on the question list, Vlad, and we'll get to it. Good. Okay. Any other topics? Okay, let's take those then. So, let's look at wiki conversion progress summary. Jonathan, you want to take us through it? No, okay. That's my one. Well, I guess we have finished the Work Migration Issues Register. Okay. So, in summary, most of the issues from the spreadsheet were registered as an issue. So, it's near about 100 issues there, I guess, maybe 40, I don't remember. Yeah, 57. So, now we have a lot of issues to work on. Just about 31 issues, I can figure out the destination page. So, I put a link to map them. So, maybe someday you can help me to figure out. And so, these are flagged as waiters? Yeah, waiting is 3A, 3A is an issue. Okay. So, waiting... It's a red set, the filter. Oh, it is. Okay. So, the filter... On the state status column, it's saying waiting 3A is an issue. Yeah. Got it. Okay. All right. So, some issues are really old, and I can't figure out the destination, I showed the broken link to plugins, for example. So, for example, Line 130, all SWAPs depend on the check plugin. If you visit the page, the link is broken, and I can't find them on the plugin research page. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. So, shall we take a look at that one? Just I'm curious, because OWASP is very much used, but I don't know if this particular plugin may be a dead plugin that they've removed and replaced with something else. Maybe. Okay. So, you say that this link is just broken? No, there's OWASP. I swear, it was broken yesterday. Well, and it may be that the plugin site was having some issues. So, this looks like it's a redirect, and looks like the content is largely there. Good. Okay. Let's double check. Maybe they've already implemented documentation as code. Okay. Maybe another page is broken. I can't visit them again. Yeah. And they definitely have made the transition to documentation as code. So, this is a redirect. Nice. Okay. Good. Okay. So, let's back to agenda, please. All right. Okay. So, the next topic is we have, and the list below shows, I put the link there. So, we have 49 issues eligible to go to the first issue. So, I put the link for all of them. Excellent. And I've started through this list assigning the good first issue label. I'm doing my own triage checks as I've gone through. So, I'm right now, I think I've completed the first five, and I'll continue working on those later today. Exactly. So, there is a lot of issues to work on October 5th. Well, let's move to the next topic, just show what it is. Okay. So, and okay, here's the difference now between when we start to register and then August. And now, yesterday, I put another graph. So, now we have 30% of work done, and almost 40 available issues to work on. And then we can start another, follow another strategy to work with documentation. Excellent. So, describe again for me the distinctions that we're seeing between these two graphs. So, in the old case, there was waiting for an issue that was almost two thirds of the things, that large yellow two thirds. And that has now been reduced to just less than 15%. Exactly. And at the beginning, all issues was marked, but don't receive triage. So, no one can help us. But now we have the issues in the first triage and registered to another volunteers with us. Excellent. This is really exceptional, Jonathan. Thank you very, very much for what you've done. This is marvelous. Okay, so then this is a place where anyone else, so me or Vlad or Meg could consider working through these lists that you've already assigned, that you've already identified as good first issue, do another triage, yep, ready for the good first issue label. I'll work through them. Others are welcome to assist if they'd like. That's really great. This is brilliant. So, this feels like a great, a great thing for us to highlight if we were to do a Jenkins online meetup fairly early in October, to highlight how people can contribute to Jenkins documentation during Hacktoberfest. We could show, hey, look, here are the things that are ready for you. All sorts of great things that are here. We've guess we've got some few left that we need a triage still, but we have 100 and it's 157, right, wasn't it? Exactly. That's really marvelous. And now if I look at ones that we've already got labeled good first issue, this is not having processed all 49 of the ones that you had identified. So, this only includes five of those. Therefore, we'll add another 40 or more to this list of good first issues. Yeah. It's all the 49 issues. It's about a direct operation, but it's a good start for newcomers. Right. We need that work done. It's work to do. It's a valid poll request. Exactly. And the people have become happy when they help. So, it's a simple question issue. It's a simple problem to solve, but they can taste the, how it's valuable help others and community. Right. Oh, that's, that is really exceptional. Very good. Thank you. Okay. Anything else you want to highlight there? Any other, any other things we should be aware? No, just be aware to revisit the all the 49 issues, maybe it's like some exceptional content or, or modificate, modify the text as we wish. Mm hmm. So, I think that's a good question. As you wish. Mm hmm. Yeah, well, and just, just to give a, my, my, my technique as I work through the triage process. So, I opened this one and said, oh, okay, I'm going to change the description. Oh, no, this one, this one I checked and it's already done. So, I, when I click this link, it opens up to the same page that this one does. So, the redirect, I assume you or somebody else has implemented. So, I just closed the issue very nicely done. Yeah. Yesterday a, a, a, let's take the number here. Someone sent me a, a mail. Oh, yes. It should be, it should be connected in, I believe it's in Croatia. Yeah, I can't, I don't know how to say his name, but it's, it's speaking about the A-plugging. He was a work on, so he already sent the full request to redirect it. Excellent. Yeah, and that is, what a great outcome. That is a marvelous result. Thank you, thank you. And now, the, the Spinnock had also, had also pointed to the, see, there, there is a GitHub issue, isn't there, that tracks, tracks some of these things as in a different way. So, so that's, we've got additional opportunities for people to help there where even if it didn't reach yet into our list of pages to migrate, there are still plenty of plugins that need documentation migrated to GitHub from wherever. Hmm, nice. So, so you saw, you said to, to write the, readme.md file from plugins? Yeah, basically. Yeah, no, these are just, these are just plugin documentation as readme.md or readme.a.doc. Yeah. Well, but how exactly works the, the plugins, for example, the volunteer who wrote the plugin is responsible to documentation or not, the community need to stay there, document everything. Actually, it's, it's either. So that's a good topic. How about, let me put that one at the, towards the end of our session here, plugin documentation transition, because we may want to, may want to include that in the October meetup in the October Jenkins online meetup to remind people just how easy it is and how they can help anything else on, on our, on the marvelous progress you've made on wiki conversion. No, I guess I would, I would speak about that. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. That is, that is an amazing piece of work. Great work. So I've got a concept on the next topic for terminology updates. So terminology updates. This is the conversion from master to controller, slave agent, blacklist to deny list or a better phrasing. Oftentimes we don't need to use denialist. We just need to say what we're, what we're blocking and white list to allow list or a better phrasing. What I did was I looked at, I looked for the word master in the, in the Jenkins.io repository and realized there are some references in the style guide and in contributing that we need to be sure that those instructions are ready before we point people to them. Likewise, there are sensitive documents like in the roadmap where there are references that we may need to, we may need to also correct those. We want to be sure that it's using correct terminology there, but those are not good first time issues and they're not places where we want somebody who's an experienced coming in to, to do, to make a change. But then there are some spots that would be good for a first time contributor. The multi branch pipeline project tutorial was high on the count of places where we use the word master. Likewise, creating a pipeline in blue ocean and the, and two architecting pages and then a number of pipeline pages. So my thought was each of these bullets would be a bug and it would be a huge issue in GitHub and then I'll list the file that they're to edit to, to, to make that change. This one had, I think it was on the order of 10 references. And so it's, it's enough of a change that it's not a trivial operation. It's not changing one word. And this one I think likewise. So now to, to the rest of you as a group, does that seem like a reasonable approach to attack this without to attack this? How do we do the terminology changes? So basically a USP it's not that just finding your place. It's smart. It's more than it as far as I can tell it is more than that because there are times, for instance, one of the things when I did my initial search, I just looked for the word master. And of course the word master occurs in a GitHub repository URL that refers to the master branch. And if they do a find and replace on that, they will break the hyperlink completely. I guess. I heard about the news. I speak in GitHub in the next days will change the master technology to domain. And, and I look forward to that change, but I suspect they won't take the, they won't do the very dangerous and risky thing of altering existing repositories. And if they did, I would be outraged. So, so if, if they did, I would immediately go change it back. Because there are just too many hyperlinks that depend on that that word master. So, but I can see them saying that for new repositories for new repositories instead of master will remain. Yeah, or ease some transition. Great. Good for them. But, but this is a place where. If we are very delicate, right? If we do wholesale replacement, we will spend more time. If we do mechanical replacement without thinking, we will spend more time for reviewers to fix problems than we gained by having people help us. Actually, it's a good point. I need to be sure that we teach them. And Jonathan, you were the good, the good example of this. The issue needs to clearly state. At the. They must not. Break existing hyperlinks. It's just not, not, not acceptable. We can't. We can't do that. We will throw. We will discard pull requests if they, if they do a wholesale search and replace without thinking, because it will probably break hyperlinks. Yeah, maybe it's a nice approach. Just the issues. And a road. Write something. Warning about the danger of changes. You are out. And so. Do a nice. Yeah, I'll review faster. So reject if you find something wrong or just. Ask for adjustment. Right. We need to try. Maybe a man in there can do everything. And they go down. With a good hand. Yeah, actually with, with those of you who are. I didn't touch settings with those of you in this meeting be willing to review a draft. Of that. Of that issue. You willing to review a draft of that issue. Proposing what the text should be. To text. And to others for review. To review text. And I guess you are absolutely right. Mark that it should not be mechanical or. Automated in any way because. There is, we need to say there is distinction between updating documentation or terminology inside the documentation and inside the code. So probably we should make a note somewhere. Saying that all the documentation has changed the new terminology. The code is. Right. More complex effort. Right. Yeah, I will. And there. It's, it's a point of conflict that was noted earlier. There are times when. The documentation is describing the current text. In the UI. And so the first challenge then is we need to go fix the current text in the UI. And then we can change the documentation. We don't want to confuse users by presenting. Documentation of something that hasn't yet changed in the UI. Good. Okay. So. Yeah. Besides UI when we are referring to. Let's see. Docker. Images sometimes were referring to them. They are named still. Some images are named. With all terminology. So it may be not. I don't know why, but you're all right. You I may be. Like. That's a very good point. That's one that. Inside a tutorial, for instance, if we name. If we name the volume. Jenkins master volume that we can probably safely change. But if they, if there's a risk that they persisted that volume and kept it for long term. Then I suspect we have to warn them. They may have to change the volume. They may have to change the volume. They may have to name this. Because they may have to do a transition for themselves. If they have that volume. They created a year ago and they're still using it. Now we've changed the instructions. Good insight. Okay. Any other comments or concerns on terminology updates? Okay. Next topic. Hacktoberfest. So Vlad, you had asked. Can we. Can hacktoberfest can treat contributions. For one October. I think that was your question. Yes. Yeah. Should we wait for October 1st? Or it's. And so contributions prior to October 1. Do not count. Towards. Hacktoberfest criteria. So. There they require. They were digital ocean. Only considers. Over one through October 31. It doesn't stop us from preparing. But, but they, they will. They will count. So. Four pull requests. From between. One October and 31 October. Did that answer your question? Yes. Absolutely. Mark. And related to this one. About. Specifically. Registration for digital. Ocean. A digital ocean. It's when they. Digital ocean. They mentioned this. Hacktoberfest. It's not clear enough. Should we do registration. After. September 31st. Be starting from October 1. Or we can register with digital ocean. Before. And that's, that's another good question. I thought that their rules allowed us to register before. Let's find out. Yeah. Because maybe some people already registered. Before. Should they register or use another. Right. And I thought. Let's see. So. Let's take a look here. Okay. To get a shirt. You must make four pull requests between October 1 and 31 in any time zone. Okay. To any public repo. So that we qualify. And now. Let's see. Now where was the. Maybe. Registration. Maybe in the same article. Oh, here it is. So it was, I think it is. We just click the start hacking. It will then ask me, okay, who am I logging in as. I am. A maintainer. In the US. I have read and understood the rules and values. I know those rules and values. Good. Okay. I don't mind receiving updates from. Okay, so it looks like it's allowing me to register now. So I would assume that they'll preserve that registration. Good. Good. And we've got. So they've got a facility now to help us promote. We've got to submit our request for. An online meetup to. To the Jenkins advocacy team. That's one I should put on this list. Sorry that I missed getting that into the agenda. But we're just going to start with, if you guys have any questions, please send us a thank you to the. Overfest meetup scheduling. But was there more that you wanted to. Address on this topic. Glad on October Fest and contribution schedule. Now, actually, Mark, you'll completely answered my questions and thank you very much for clarifying all this. Okay. So we've got. a counter. That'll be fun to watch. That's nice. I'm not sure how they know that I've done pull requests to arbitrary public repository. That's great. Okay. So, does it mean that after four pull requests, everybody can stop doing pull requests? Well, after four pull requests, you qualify. I think a pull request to a public repository, at least for me, was almost infectious. It was so fun. It was, oh, wow, I just contributed something to somebody because I felt like doing it. And I got addicted to it and couldn't stop. And I think we hope the same thing for other people that they'll just become attached to the idea that they should help open source projects. Well, there is also a possibility, for instance, for somebody creating their own repository, not connected or related to any common project or Jenkins or whatever, and create different branches inside those repository and create pull requests on their own and merge. Sure. And if you're that sophisticated and you don't want to contribute to open source, I think you probably deserve a t-shirt. Congratulations. You've shown a level of sophistication that's far beyond. Did you know they will send the issue by post? Yes, as far as I understand, they mail the shirt by post. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I think that's why it's been so crucial to them that they've got it presented by DigitalOcean and Intel and Dev. So they've got DigitalOcean as a hosting sponsor and Intel, the processor giant. And I assume it's very expensive for them to do this, but we're very grateful that they do. Yeah, really expensive because just four PRs are so simple to do. So maybe everyone in the world gets a t-shirt. Well, I think they may have set an upper bound on how many shirts they're willing to deliver, but it was a very large number, if I recall correctly, thinking 100,000 or something. So at least if I recall past years, they had set some upper bound so that everybody in the world did not get a t-shirt. But it's a very positive thing, absolutely. All right. So since we covered that one, I've got one more topic here, Hacktoberfest Meetup Proposal. So Mark, to submit to draft a proposal for early October. And I say early October, it would be after October 8, because that's when CD-Con ends. The idea was we'll have Mark, Vlad, Jonathan present how to contribute to Jenkins Docs. Meg, do you want to be on that presentation? Well, I don't know if my English is good enough for a large presentation. Oh, I think, I think your English is marvelous. And I think we should have you show some, at least show the graphs and the charts and the data that we've got. Yeah, you show how to create documentation and send some PRs, some like that. And no, I was thinking we will have you actually show how our process worked with these things. Because I think this is interesting and fun for people to know. I can do the part about, hey, this is how you do a pull request for documentation. Here's the demonstration. But I think it would be really great to have slides that say, look, contributing. I'm Jonathan. I contributed to open source by helping prepare for this event. And here are the things that I prepared. No, just like a 668, of course. Yes, that's what I was thinking anyways. You would say, look, this is what I did, not a demonstration, just I contributed by preparing these issues, by reviewing them, by thinking about them. And that's a valid and helpful way to contribute to open source. Okay, so if I wrote a proposal, I need to send before each October. It's the time less opportunities sent a proposal. So what we will do is, I will send, I will send, let's outline this. So Mark will send a draft today or tomorrow to Jenkins advocacy. An outline. So an outline. And that will propose Mark, how to, let's see, let's do it this way. Mark, intro, Jonathan, pairing the issues for Hacktoberfest. And then maybe we have Vlad creating a redirect or something else. Vlad, you tell me what you would like and then Mark transferring docs from the wiki. Or maybe, Vlad, do you want to do a terminology update? That would be another good one. If you'd like to do it, hey, I'm going to do a terminology update and show a live terminology update. Yeah, you are talking about this meetup, which we are scheduling. Well, I was thinking about doing, showing the process of actually building and running Jenkins site, starting doing make run, make build, starting your local machine, verifying that everything works. And after they are doing like checking if your local fix will work and submitting this issue and pull request, this kind of the entire process. So people who may be new to documentation may figure out how to do this. I like that. The reason for that is like some time ago, I guess earlier summer or spring timeframe, I created the list of broken links inside Jenkins site or documentation. Kind of simple, but it likes several hundreds, I guess. And somebody started working on that. And after that, another person wanted to work. But eventually, nobody continued working on this. And my guess, they didn't know the entire process, how to, it looks simple, like broken link, how to fix. But maybe they should be educated about the entire process, how to approach something that you taught me and everybody else at the beginning. Like one of the first sessions and it was marvelous job. I like that. That's really great. I like that a lot. Well, I do know when the time of the presentation, because I need to align my off time to be available. We can do the presentation at whatever time works for us. So if this time works for us, we could just do it during this time. It doesn't have to be convenient for the European. They can watch a recording of it. We can do it any time that works for us. Okay. End time, end day? Yes, absolutely. So if I look at calendar, I think my calendar says the eighth of October is a Thursday. So it would probably be the typical, we typically prefer things Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. But again, we could say this at this hour of the day and allow people to watch a recording later. Or we could push it earlier in the day and try to get people live. I'm open to either. Okay. It would likely be the week of October 12 because or we could do it the ninth, Friday the ninth. If we did it morning, it's not typical we get great attendance on a Friday afternoon at a Jenkins online meetup. That would surprise me. Most people want to be doing something different on a Friday afternoon. Jonathan? So maybe 13 or 14. It's a good day to you? Those would be very good dates for me. And I thinking about it, I suspect the advocacy team will say, hey, if you could do it in the European afternoon, North and South America earlier morning, that would be better. Would that work for you, Jonathan? And Vlad, could it work for you on the 13th, 14th or 15th to do an earlier in the day? Early in the day. Okay, I can handle it. Okay. So let me put a note on that. So October 13, October 13, 14 or 15, earlier in the end of European day would be okay. Part of America's day. Are there other topics we'd like to include there? I think we could remind people, I don't know who wants to do it, but terminology updates, how to do it, how to, and what are some of the pitfalls, some of the problems, and things to avoid. Maybe this topic is a good one to Vlad, too, because after the assembly, the local Jenks are outside. Maybe you show how to do in the next day or the next session. That's a very good idea. Vlad, would you be willing to, after you've shown them how to build locally and use it locally, then say, and now we're going to do a terminology update? Yeah. Do you want to do this in two separate sessions or just one? I would prefer one myself, but go ahead, Jonathan. Sorry. I suggest separate, because just maybe the first one, big enough, maybe near to one hour to handle the house environment. Ah, good point. Yeah. Sometimes things go wrong, so you need to fix some lies. Yeah, very good. Okay. Very good. So first session, something like this, intro, preparing the issues for the, for Hectoberfest, Jonathan that you present, and then Vlad, building and running the Jenkins IO site locally, and then a second, a later session, another intro and welcome, terminology updates, and transferring documentation from Wiki. Yeah, I like that. We as a member of Jenkins, we can participate and earn some t-shirts, too, or not? Oh, yes. Absolutely. Yes. The pull requests you submit between October 1 and October 31 are absolutely eligible for the Hectoberfest promotion. Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Good question. And certainly, I have my Hectoberfest t-shirt from last year. I'm very proud of it. Yeah, I like shirt, too. Okay. Okay. I think, I think we covered that topic on the Hectoberfest meetup proposal, so I will submit that today or tomorrow. Anything else on that topic before we go to the next? No. No. Okay. So last topic was plug-in documentation transition. And this one, I think it's just a reminder that we need to remind people again, it's not hard to convert a plug-in from Wiki hosted documentation to documentation hosted on GitHub. Anything else we need to discuss today? Just a moment. I look for a link here to ask a question for you. Just a moment. Okay. I sent the link on chat. Okay. On chat. Oh, yes. Right. And this one, this page will take a while to load, but it's a fascinating way to highlight the progress. So it's going to load and show us progress towards the migration of over 1,000 Jenkins plugins from Wiki documentation to hosting the documentation in GitHub. Yeah. I came across this page yesterday. So it's related to plug-in migration or not? This is absolutely 100% related to plug-in migration. This was the original page and process that started us on this. Gavin Mogan created this page and has been maintaining and improving it. And it's behind this page is the export tool that will let you input a Confluence Wiki URL and get back from it the converted page as either Markdown or Askidaw. It's a marvelous tool. Okay. So someone of them, it's okay and maybe means it's done. All right. That's correct. So we need to work on it too or not? No. Another team and work on it. Nothing to be done. If it says here that it's okay, then that means it's the documentation has been converted. The pull request has been or the pull request was created. The documentation has been converted. The new release of the plugin has been delivered and is now visible on the plug-in site. So for an instance, if I click this, I think it will take me to, yes, here's the evidence that this page has been converted. So and to do this pattern, it's going to work available to do. To do? Correct. So let's go down the list here. So PR, this one says that the plugin has a pull request pending which would correct it but has not yet been released with that change. So if we look here, you can see the pull request has actually been merged but there has not been a release since this pull request was merged and therefore it's not yet complete. And then if we scroll from... Who is the people responsible to manage it? The plugin maintainers are the ones who decide if they'll merge a pull request and Gavin is just extracting this information from the GitHub repositories. So here's actually a quite popular plugin, the XUnit plugin, which apparently has not had even the pull request submitted yet. Yeah, but if you click on the link, it already points to the Jinx.io. So what needs to be done? Oh, so what needs to be done here is if we look at this palm.xml for this plugin, we look inside of it and we'll see a URL and that URL is pointing to the wiki documentation. That documentation is read only. It cannot be changed. And so that's not a place for us to keep documentation long term. So we need to transform this to instead use local documentation that's inside the plugin repository like... Well, this one doesn't have a readme. So we would need to create a readme that contains this content that you see on this page. And the page content actually comes from, if I remember right, this page content couple mistake comes from, let's go there, from this location. So if I copy that, open it. Yeah. Oh, whoops. Gavin's very smart. He's done the redirect and so I have to put an extra slash in there to get to the actual wiki page. But this content needs to be converted to be placed inside that. And a pull request then, and there may be one. That's what I'm going to say. No, there isn't one. Okay. This truly does not have a pull request yet submitted to correct the problem. Yeah. Because I guess there's two ways to solve this problem. Change the palm xml or just point the redirect on page. And in both cases, you go to the right page. Actually, the there's no, there's no need to do the problem is not the redirect because the redirect's already in place. Right. Because if I take this, I take the slash away, it will take me to the plugins page. So the redirect is already there. It's that the maintainers as a maintainers of this plugin cannot improve that documentation because they can't modify this page. So the pages document or the plugins documentation is stuck. It will never, never improve. Okay. And there is there some features that capture the content from Regime to Jenkins Space? There, there is. That's that wiki exporter. So let's go look at that. So this one you see here, I'm going to copy. No, get from the GitHub. GitHub Regime. Oh, yes. That's, that's, that's a standard part of the, of the, that's a standard part of this plugins page. It, it uses GitHub's generation of the README to create this page. Nice. It's because the X Unity has no README, but to show the content in the same way. So someone put them and the hard codes, maybe it's the reason it's showing content. Close. What happened was that Gavin, this, this, the plugins Jenkins.io site for the longest time would copy content from the Jenkins wiki. Oh, what you're seeing here is it's copy from the Jenkins wiki. And so that at least presents to users something that's useful for the plugin documentation, even if it's not maintainable by the authors and by the maintainers. I see. Okay. So maybe it's a, a, a good next text to work after with migration finish. Oh, yes. Yes. Absolutely. There's still, there's still lots of work to be done on the transformation from, that I put my export plugin here on this, right? There are still well, Gavin shows the nice data right up at the top, right? We've got 1,000 to do and 500 complete. Yeah. Almost 60%. Right. And Mark, this list with Gavin preparing, I guess dynamically by browsing, retrieving information from GitHub. My understanding this list of plugins includes both adopt already like maintainable, maintained plugins and plugins which are for adoption as well. That is correct. This includes all plugins. So it includes all but relatively few plugins. So it includes plugins that are up for adoption, plugins that may have security issues, plugins, it may even include plugins that we're no longer distributing. I haven't checked for that. But, okay. Yes. And we have some statistics about the most important plugins to migrate in first or not. That's what this installs column is intended to help us with. Oops. And I just sorted to zero. So what it does is plugins with more installs are higher on the list and we rely on people to scroll down. And it's quite exciting actually to see how well we've done at progressing through these, right? The first time we reach a line that has no progress on it is at something with 21,000 installations. And that is less than 10% of the Jenkins install base is using this plugin. So that's quite good. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you for this donation. Thank you. Well, and that's a fun one to review. That is a really good one to review to show people. Hey, there is a lot yet to be done and it's to be done in places that will help many, many people. That even a small use, even one of these lower usage plugins is still installed at 18,000 locations. Right. In commercial software, 18,000 was about 17,000 more customers than I had. Exactly. One dollar per each. So that's an awful lot that you can help by assisting with documenting these plugins. So yeah, that's great. All right. Well, we've reached our hour. Any other topics before we conclude? No. No. All right. Thanks everybody. Okay. Thank you. Recording will be posted. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.


One thing you might hear a lot of talk about especially when it comes to to good hitters is something called a run batted in Added in This is you generally shorten we just call it an RBI you might hear somebody say, you know How many RBI's does that guy have? So let's let's take a look at how you get credit, you know or an RBI and And so the first way is Is that there's a play it's that unaided by error and It's a play begun by a batter safe hit that a run You know scores on so RBI's basically they're looking at and they're giving credit to You know guys who have gotten a hit Or or you know done some some positive action and that allows a run to score And so you know we kind of use RBI's as a way to Know keep track, you know how many times have you have you helped out your team by by getting a run to score? So let's write down this first one and we say say say there's no errors on the play on the play and It's a a play Play begun by a batters Safe hit so that's that's that's Basically a way of saying, you know if if there's a runner on Batter we were on third base And so I guess probably that one of the simplest ways is just that this batter he would get a hit you know say ground ball to the outfield and And and this runner he would come home and he would score so then then the batter You know you get a single and he would also get credit for an RBI Say in the situation there are two runners on base and This this batter he comes up and he hits one, you know really deep way out maybe it even you know bounces off the wall and And and and both these runners score So this guy would come home and this guy would also have enough time to go to third and then come home The the runner, you know, he'd probably get a double odd bit So he would be standing here, but it doesn't really matter as long as he's he's got the safe hit He would get credit in that situation because because this runner scored and this runner scored So he would get credit for two RBI's on that play and so This the rulebook says that RBI's obviously they also include home runs So so let's say the bases are loaded all you know all three first second and third base have a runner on And the the runner or the batter comes up and he hits he hits Let's make it white because it's the ball and he hits the ball out of the park The lands, you know on the other side of the fence, you know, maybe there's a lucky fan out here who who catches it and This would be a It's if the ball goes over the fence. It's a home run and And in this case not only is it a home run But because the bases were loaded a home run with the bases loaded or something We call a grand slam and that means That if you add all the Runs up that scored as a result of this play We have one two three and then the batter would also scores We have four runs score on that play because of the batter's action So the batter would get credit on that play for four RBI's and that would be You know as you can see, you know all the bases are taken up So that's the most you can get on one play is his credit for four RBI's so so his his safe hit or and then the other part of this is it doesn't actually have to be a hit it can also be an out and In the case in the case that it would be an out it would be something like a sacrifice bunt or or Sacrifice fly so If if say rather than then going over the Rather than going over the fence here This ball only went went this far And it was caught by and the left fielder And then this runner here tagged up and he ran home So the the batter would then Be out in the run would score that would be a sacrifice fly and and The runner we get credit for the the RBI So I did these in my The out disappeared so let's put that back here Hit or or out and so that we could let's them we say like a sack fly or bunt or Over in even an infield out so if If there's a runner here On third base in the batter grounds out To to the second baseman He is a ground ball here and the second baseman throws him out of first base if this runner runner here scores Then that would be he would still get credit for the RBI because the run scored You know as a result of the play That he started The second way That you can get credit you know for an RBI Means that the kind of relies On the fact that we're starting the play with the bases loaded so we have this play set up And so it might seem kind of kind of like an easy way to do it But but any any way this guy gets on base Even even in the in an automatic you kind of one of those automatic ways to get on base the run scores He gets the RBI so even if he doesn't get a hit so the first pitch comes in and it hits him Then he would get an RBI or if he if he walks if you walk with the bases loaded No, there's nowhere else to put put the guy on So this runner would come home and he would score Everybody would move over one base and the batter would get credit for the RBI So so say let's write that out so batter comes a runner with bases loaded and Forces in a run and so so that's the second way


The factory alliance, I think what Ford did in the 20th century was crazy, right? He turned factories into really efficient processes where you're just standing there, something comes, you work on it, it moves on. And Agile promotes that, right? But you're running in this like mode where you're basically, it's working on just one thing at a time and it's coming in. But I feel like work's becoming more flexible than that, where people want to work on things in different ways or maybe it doesn't fit the exact narrative of Agile. Toyota created Bon Bon Agile, like the Con Bon Board, they created that in the 1940s to revolutionize their manufacturing. But what is revolutionary is having it embedded in their project management system. They no longer need to have a separate system to do Con Bon Boards, a separate system to do work management, but it's this all-in-one application that where you can work how you want to work regardless of what team you are, regardless of the methodology.


Welcome to the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference 2022 here in Bucharest, Romania. We have got the great pleasure of being joined in the studio today by Mohamed Ibrahim, who is a former minister for the Post and Telecommunications of Somalia. Mohamed, welcome to the studio. Thank you. Thank you very much. You are no stranger to ITU studios. We've chatted quite a lot in the past. This is, I believe, your fourth Plenipotentiary Conference. That's correct. She was my age. I know the feeling. How is it different from other Plenipotentiary Converses? And why does this matter? This time, I think there's a difference in the structure of the leadership, which is good news. We have a female general secretary after 150 plus years. So that is one of the changes. But there are other important issues going on. And for the first time, we are really more focused on digital transformation, disruption of technology, developing countries, the digital divide. All those things are becoming now more focused, whereby before there was discussions, but now it seems a lot of people understand what's on the stake. So that is really what makes this time different. Now you've swapped your ministerial role for academia now, I understand. And you're based in Australia. So obviously you're getting a whole different perspective there, I'm sure. Now I wanted to ask you, how will digital transformation and its role in bridging the digital divide transform the planet? Well, thank you. You're right. Actually, I'm no longer in politics now. I moved into academia. And this is an area I actually do a lot of research on this. And we hear a lot of the time through the UN agencies and all these big meetings, global meetings about digital transformation, financial inclusion, bridging the digital divide and all these things. But for a long time, it was really a hype. In other words, it was academic stuff. Just talking about it, writing about it and so on. But now it seems people are realizing, really, it's no longer just a talk unless we can really show what digital transformation means to the people who are on the south of the digital divide. And that's what makes things more interesting now. It seems people who are talking about this over the last decade or more now are saying, well, how do we quantify? How do we actually say digital transformation and what actually lead into less divide between the south and north in terms of economics? So it's interesting times. I think this time maybe we hopefully will get it right. And what about the structure of ITU? Do you think it's time to restructure ITU to ensure that it can cope with the speed of global technological developments? It's a very sensitive issue and it's an interesting question. A lot of discussion about this, especially among the African community and the African telecommunication people and also the Arab community and so on. I think to be fair, the current leadership, the structure of the current leadership worked for a while. Maybe the time has come, we should revisit this and already certain things are happening. Why, why is this important? Because the speed of the technology, the way technology develops, is much, much faster than what the ITU leadership can cope with. I'm not trying to be negative or critical about this. Hence the need for different way of running the show, different way of leading the ITU. What do I mean by this? For example, if you have someone in the leadership, the secretary general or the directors, and they are in the system for eight years as debuties, and then they become the director or the secretary general for another eight years, that's 16 years. That's almost in terms of IT timeframe, it's a lifetime. That's how much people spend in the technology. So I guess in a friendly way, I'm just sending a message saying, look, perhaps that can be revisited, can be shortened and get more young generation. I consider myself now, for example, a senior person, I wouldn't be interested in doing bits and bytes. But if people who are even older than me are still trying to cope with this, maybe it's time to really change a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I'll answer that question because I know you're that opinion, but there is some fresh blood coming into ITU. I mean, I think our deputy secretary general is probably the youngest deputy secretary general that the ITU has seen. I think also, you know, Dori Bogdan-Marcin, although she's been with the organisation for quite some time, has got, is still pretty youthful. So, but is it just youth or is it something else, perspectives that you think need to be looked at? Yeah, the thing is, we know about this field, the ICT and the technology and the digital world. It's a very fast-moving area. So I'm not only talking about the directors or people who are hands-on, but it's even above that, the directors, the board, the governors, that's where you really need to inject new blood. That's where you really need people straight from universities, all those very sharp PhD holders to come in and say, look, this is what's happening. I have the same discussion with, for example, finance ministers or other ministers in Africa. And you want to explain cryptocurrencies to someone who did their PhD in the 50s or 60s. It won't work, you know, whereas you really need someone who is up to date because things are moving, they're moving very fast. So that's really what I mean. It's not, there's nothing wrong with the old leadership as well. There's a lot of wisdom and a lot of stuff, but it's just that sometimes we need to also time it and say, look, things are really moving too fast for the current leadership. That's what I was trying to say. Right, because the Institute of Rural Knowledge, of course, is extremely important, but I don't know whether you know this, but here, actually, at the ITU Planetary Potentially Conference, we also have Generation Connect. We've got young people here for the first time that are really injecting this new blood. We've got major sort of young influences as well and coveting and looking at the whole at the whole Planetary Potentially Conference. So hopefully that will spread itself, spread the message across and influence also the conversations that are happening here, do you think? Yeah, no, no, we had this conversation in different platforms before. It's the way, the queue, how it does it actually work. I'll just give you one quick example. If we want to talk about, let's be called 5G or some other technology. The ITU is standard. We're still working through it. You have the study groups, you have all these people trying to set the standard. In the meantime, the telecourse out there in the US or Europe, they're already doing it. So they're saying, look, you guys worry about your standards, but we really won't wait for you, we're moving on. The same thing with the financial side where you have the cryptos and what have you. It's already happening. The governments are still trying to legislate and this is really where my area of interest is. How do you shorten that time? Because if you want to lead, you have to be in the front. You cannot leave from the back, that won't work. So I guess that's what I'm trying to explain. Well, let's hope that ITU can stay ahead of the curve and fulfill its needs and expectations. But Mohamed, thank you so much for being with us in the studio again. I'm not sure whether we'll catch up again that soon, but I'm not sure whether you'll be at another plenty of potential comments, but if you are, you're more than welcome to come and join us here and share your insights. But thank you very much for joining us today. You're welcome. Well, we're writing a lot of things now, so being on camera, probably people can also read while we're writing, but I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thanks very much indeed.


Hey everybody, what's going on? I am Greg Suspin joined today by Tom Vecchio Fandle and the NBA is back. Thursday night we've got two games and Friday a full slate. So we're gonna break down that full slate of Friday games. Tom, you ready to rock man? Yeah, this is an exciting time. Baseball last week, NBA starting on Thursday, NHL is back on Saturday, sports are here. We are in full force man. This weekend we go full slate of baseball, hockey and the NBA. It is a dream come true for sports fans. So let's begin with your top stars for the Friday slate over on Fandle with the NBA all back. You're going, why are you going almost all the way to top? That's James Hardin who is $10,600 on Fandle. Why is Hardin the star that you're going with? Not why you're putting Hardin, it's James Hardin. I get it.  Well in this six game slate, I think it's very viable to do a stars and scrubs build. We have some really strong values we'll get to. But Hardin is that guy we've always trusted.  I don't think anyone would be surprised. But more importantly, we want to be looking at some of, some of the quotes he said, some of the coach speak I know that can be an interesting subject for some people.  The Rockets still have to lock up their playoff seating. They clinched a spot, but they're in the sixth spot right now, the sixth seed in the West. And they can move all the way up to four if things kind of go their way. Still sitting there with that 36, 35% usage rate, 1.52 Fandle points per minute. He's one of the top stars you absolutely want to be paying up for on the six game slate. When you go with stars and scrubs, James Hardin's a lock for the lineup and a six game slate with that incredible usage rate. This is an easy plug and play. James Hardin belongs in your lineup. So everybody's on the road for this bubble for the NBA. So one team, it's your Orlando Magic who are essentially playing at home. Of course, they got to be in the bubble that can't be in their own homes. But it is nice playing close to home. And why not go with Nikola Vuchovic in this first outing? He's $8,300 on Fandle. And for Orlando team that is going to fight for playoff positioning, Vuch is certainly a good start. Absolutely. And I think that fighting for the positioning, like you said, is something we want to pay attention to. Teams that are in the race, we want to be targeting those stars. Teams that are out of the race, we can be looking at some of their backup players. Some of their younger players. And I think 8.3K for Vuch is a really, really reasonable price tag. We look at him going up against the Nets, really a depleted Nets team, allowing 54.8 Fandle points per game to centers during the regular season. That was the fifth worst in the league. And we look at Vuch. He's a double-double machine every single night. 1.29 Fandle points per minute. You want to be loading him in there in an up-paced spot for the Magic against the weak Nets defense. I feel like this Nets defense is a team that we're going to target throughout the NBA bubble. And as you mentioned, when you're facing off against some of these teams that are fighting for positioning, but also are kind of out of it, you're going to look at the younger players. Orlando, they're very much in the midst of it. They're trying to get ready for the playoffs to see if they can do some damage. And Vuch is going to lead them if they do. So Vuch, a good solid start at this price tag is a little bit more than $8,000 on day two of the NBA restart. One more star to get to. And we mentioned the Nets, so this is an obvious one. This is the one that I knew was going to be in here before you even looked at the players. And it's Karis Lavert, $8,200. The Nets are as short-handed as any team in the bubble missing their top three stars. Karis Lavert, well, he's going to step in. That user trade's going to be out of control, Tom.  Like you said, the Nets are barely hanging onto a playoff spot. They have basically no one else. Irving's out, Din Whitties out. Jonfer Jordan's out, Terriam Prince is out. You name it. They are very, very depleted in their offense. And we look at the scrimmage games for the Nets. Karis Lavert, it was like, you know, Karis Lavert show. How many shots can he take in how many minutes? 76 minutes, a total of 57 field goal attempts over their first three games. A 33% usage rate if we look back to the regular season when Din Whitties and Irving were off the court. He's a player that doesn't necessarily contribute a lot in the peripheral stack categories, but the scoring upside is immense. Yeah, Karis Lavert is not necessarily one of these five category players. He's going to have the basketball in his hands just so often. He just scored the basketball just so often that he has to be in your lineup here. Certainly at this price tag, it's only a number that's going to go up on Fandall. $8,200 here on day two of the NBA restart. We're putting in all these stars. Obviously, we have to go with some value plays. And that begins with Triple J, Jaren Jackson Jr., $4,700 on Fandall on Friday. What gives, man? No, I don't know. This was a player that was normally in the mid-six low $7,000 range for basically the entirety of the regular season. And all of a sudden, he's coming in at 4.7K. Memphis is in a spot where they absolutely need to be winning games. I think that Jaren Jackson is going to be probably one of the most popular players on the entire slate, besides Lavert, kind of regardless of price or regardless of position. Going up against Portland at 223 or Runder, we see Memphis, they were at six in pace. Portland was at 13th. It should be pretty fast. Portland didn't necessarily play a whole ton of defense, especially against the big men. 47.1 Fandall points per game was what they allowed in the regular season to power forwards. That was the fourth most in the league. So at $4,700, a player that could easily push towards a double-double, you want Jaren Jackson Jr. in as many lines as you can get him in. This number just seems wildly crazy for Jaren Jackson here. I know obviously Battletom injuries before the NBA took their COVID break. And now he's healthy. Obviously, there is a team that's going to be fast-paced at John Morant, running the point, facing a Portland team that you mentioned, not very much defense anyway. This one is a no-brainer, $4,700. You talk about good values. This is certainly on the top of the list. Up next, we have Jerome Robinson, who is the bare minimum, $3,500. One of the two players we're going to talk about on today's show, that is that bare minimum of $3,500. What type of minutes are you expecting from Jerome Robinson in the NBA restart? So Robinson and the Wizards are in a really interesting spot. They're out of the playoffs. They are here. They're probably not going to make it, or almost certainly not going to make it. They are very, very depleted. No Bradley Beale, no Bertan, some of their depth players, Garrison Matthews, Gary Payton, both not there. They simply need minutes from a few players. He's minimum salary, like you said, 225 point over under against Phoenix. Should be a very fast-paced game. Washington was at seventh, Phoenix was at ninth, but when it comes to the minutes, like you said, if we look back at his scrimmage games, we see 27, 24, and 20 minutes, where he took 19, 10, and 11 field goal attempts all off the bench, which I think is a very, very encouraging sign for a player that they're probably going to run out of their time. They're simply because they need to. They don't have a ton of depth. So at minimum salary, a player that allows you to pay up for Harding, Lover, Vuchovic, Luka Donetsch, whoever it may be you want in your lineups, you get as much saving as you possibly can with Robinson. Without John Wall, without Bradley Beale, without Thomas Bertans, Washington Wizards don't have anything, but Jerome Robinson is a healthy young body that they're going to have no choice but to play. And I think you'll see bigger minutes than even we expect. And at $3,500, he's certainly as well worth putting in your lineup. One more bare minimum player that we want to get in there, and that's Kelly Johnson of the San Antonio Spursley, former Kentucky Wildcat, should be seeing increased minutes during this NBA restarting. Why do you like him on the slate outside of the price? So outside of the price, we want to look at, again, a little bit of coach speak and Papa Vich said that this is going to be about developing younger players. They're kind of on the outside looking in. They would need a lot, a lot to go in their way from other teams in order to make the playoffs. Kelly Johnson came off the bench in all these games. He plays very fast, very high-temple type of player, very physical. He played a total of 60 minutes in these games. He averaged 13-5-2 for five rebounds to assist over these games. A player that they want to develop more, a player that's a minimum salary, how much is DeMarco Rosen going to play? They have no Lamarca Solgridge. The Spurs probably aren't going to make the playoffs. And if Papa Vich is saying we want to be playing the younger players, this is a player that you can be trusting at the minimum salary, can score 20 points, is exceeding value, and allows you to pay it for all those stars. Again, ready coach speak with Greg Papa Vich, not always the best idea. But during this NBA restart where it doesn't seem like they're going to be able to get in, developing younger players, developing that future for San Antonio and Pops, going to be extremely important. And we'll see if Kelvin Johnson's a part of that future where it's certainly at least a part of the immediate future on Friday night. That's going to do it for us here on the Fan Deal Hurry Up. Tom, good luck with the NBA coming back. Same to you, have a good one. Absolutely, tomorrow I'll be joined by Jim Sanes as we wrap up the week talking a little fantasy baseball. I'm Tom Becchio, I'm Greg Sussman. Enjoy the games everybody, enjoy all the sports. And remember to stay safe.


actually guess therefore it's time for a member statements the member from Leeds Grenville. I rise to celebrate the life of Charlie Guy and the remarkable event he and his family created. Brockville lost one of its most community-minded citizens when Charlie passed away on February 16th. Diagnosed with prostate cancer in the 1990s Charlie won that battle but it was a close call so he decided to help other men at risk. With his wonderful wife Kay and his daughter daughter's Kathy and Carol and their families he teed up what would become the care and share golf tournament. The first event at their family owned Brockville Highland Golf Club was held in 1999. Over 12 years they raised an incredible $600,000 for prostate cancer research. The tournament also saved lives by raising awareness for men over 50 to get a PSA test. In 2011 the tournament's benefactor became our beloved Brockville Cardiovascular Program. Over five years the event raised $310,000 more. It's important to note that Charlie never asked for a dime in green fees all those years. Every cent raised went to the charities. After losing their dad Carol and Kathy recently made the difficult decision that last year was a tournament's final round. But we all understand that after so many years of giving it's time to put family first. Besides it just wouldn't be the same speaker without Charlie. Mr. Care and share himself there to welcome all of us to the Highland. On behalf of the entire community I extend my deepest condolences to Kay, Kathy, Carol and family. You should be so proud to know the legacy you helped Charlie leave is one that won't be forgotten. Thank you speaker. Thank you. Thank you speaker. On behalf of the people in Kenora Rainey River I would like to extend my deepest sorrow and heartbreak to the community of Pecanjicum who lost a family of nine to a house fire this last week. The impact of this tragedy was felt across the province where people everywhere reacted with horror and heartache. Vigils were held in communities across the riding and the community of Sandy Lake in particular rallied together to deliver a truckload of donations to help the people of Pecanjicum. While the cause of the fire is still being investigated what is already known is that in many First Nation communities many are left without basic fire suppression equipment such as fire trucks. They lack enough trained volunteers and have no 9-1-1 service. Inadequate housing with severe overcrowding serves to further compound these issues. In the case of Pecanjicum where 95% of the homes don't have running water there is a fire truck but the roads were in such terrible condition that tragically the truck did not make it to the fire. Speaker we cannot sit idly by and watch while these deaths needlessly occur. We can't blame other levels of government or continue the legacy of stalling and delaying. When listening to members of the community as well as Nan Grand Chief Fiddler and Ontario Regional Chief Day we know the work that needs to be done. Ontarians across this province are looking to this government and to this Premier to act boldly to create a safe and fair society for all Ontarians. Thank you for the members Davis the member from the top of the Lakeshore. Thank you Mr. Speaker this past Saturday on April 2nd and on the 11th anniversary of his passing Ontarians across the province celebrated the life and legacy of Saint John Paul II. As a Polish Canadian and someone whose family hails from Wadowice Poland the birthplace of Karol Józef Wojtyła I'm especially proud that Ontario became the first jurisdiction in Canada to officially proclaim a special holiday to annually honour the legacy of one of the greatest spiritual leaders of our time. It was particularly special in my colleague MPP Damerla passed a bill in this house before John Paul II's canonization so that we were able to celebrate both the province's first Pope John Paul the second day and is becoming a saint. Saint John Paul II was a universal figure whose lasting legacy is marked by his strong commitment to peace, equality, human rights and multi-faith dialogue and understanding. As a young man Saint John Paul II lived in a world divided. He dedicated his life and pontificate to piecing it back together. His efforts range from the small and humble to the profound and historic. He served as a beacon for hope especially for millions of youth who were encouraged by his message of faith and activism. He visited Ontario and Toronto twice and he was the key instrumental figure in Communism's downfall. No other Pope of the modern era has had greater spiritual and political impact. This is the legacy Ontario commemorates every April 2nd. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. I rise today to recognize a non-profit group that has a unique approach to engaging in the development of a health innovation economy for Ontario. Ontario Bioscience Innovation Organization also known as OBIO has struck an MPP Health Science Caucus made up of MPPs from all three parties. We meet on a regular basis to discuss ways to grow our health science economy, to enhance our health technologies, treatments and services all of which present an excellent opportunity to offset future health care costs and benefit our society overall. This caucus is a new and unique opportunity to engage the public through MPPs and discussions on innovation and health sciences which is a nine trillion dollar global health science economy. Here in Ontario this sector employs more than 80,000 highly skilled workers. A recent report entitled how Canada should be engaging in a nine trillion dollar economy released just last month stated the best way to enhance our health science industry to nurture the startups to make them viable for investment and to ensure our province takes a leadership position in the global health science economy is to one, improve time to market by streamlining regulatory processes. Two, ensure a clear, transparent, consistent health technology assessment process. Three, invest in electronic medical records, patient databases and big data that is accessible to industry. Four, accelerate adoption of innovative technologies and simplify the procurement process. And five, build a trust and strengthen relationships between government and industry as a mechanism to build a competitively successful health science industry. I invite all members to join Obio's CEO Gail Garland along with leading CEOs Aaron Menowatt of Novodak, Brian Courtney of Konavi, Cameron Piron of Synaptive, David Young of Actium Research and all the Obio members, companies displaying its ninth reception. Join us from five to seven in the legislative dining room to learn more about this health care industry and hear about great ways to help our province. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the member from Hamilton and Stony Creek. Thank you Speaker. I rise today to speak about the bridge, an important community organization in the Hamilton area. By providing temporary housing and essential rehabilitation support services, the bridge assists in reintegrating people who have been imprisoned back to the community. They receive help to build their better lives, heal for their past hurts, find housing and jobs and make important changes in their behavior. The bridge Hamilton is not a halfway house. The program provides discharge planning for those returning from correctional facilities and prisons in the Hamilton area. Short-term accommodation for up to six men at a time, a safe atmosphere of support for women and their families who are affected by in conversation, individual help for each ex offender to develop new goals and action plans and group support programs. The bridge operates under the philosophy of restorative justice and so it wishes to expand its supportive ideas to the victims and their families. Often men and women who have been released from prison hear about the program's distinct benefits and make the choice to attend. The bridge receives funding from the federal government, the city of Hamilton and the provincial government. But it sustained primarily through charitable donations and fundraising events. Thank you to the staff and volunteers at the bridge for their truly valuable work. Thank you for their member statements. The member from Ottawa, Oregon. Mr. President, on March 31, I was last part of a great event in Oregon. An economic symposium, future positioning of business and industry, which was the first by the Orleans Chamber of Commerce. It was a half day gathering that brought together a combination of established business looking to expand startups, developers and entrepreneurs who just wants to get their ideas off the ground. This was in order to help them navigate through the complex dealings of government agency for funding and support and to learn what would drive their businesses to the next level. Local businesses were able to network and establish contacts in person with economic development representative and hear from speakers who covered topics from supports for grants, loans, doing business with the federal government and exporting to foreign markets to intellectual property. It was an impressive idea of what is offered in Ottawa. I was proud to see at which point our local businesses want to go further for the new economy. Commerce for this initiative, especially the co-chairs of the Economic Development Committee, Deborah O'Connor and Shane Crossing. Special thanks to Orleans MP Andrew Leslie, parliamentary secretary Greg Fergus, city councillors Bob Manette, Stephen Blair, Joe Dimitich and Mayor Jim Watson from being part of this event. Thank you. Thank you for the further statements from members. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to celebrate the accomplishments of Steve Mercer, a cycling enthusiast who has been named one of Canada's top 14 most influential cyclists. Steve has been a champion of cycling and an active living for over the years and he's known to cycle along Cure and Bruce roads en route to Bruce beach. He first began cycling in preparation for a series of triathlons in their early 1980s. And amazingly enough, Steve continues to commute from a home north of Toronto to just across the street here, approximately 40 kilometres each way. Steve's contributions to improving Canadians health extend beyond his impressive cycling regime. Excuse me. Nine years ago, Steve helped build the Ride to Conquer Cancer event, which brings together thousands of Canadians to raise funds for cancer research. To hear more about Steve's work, check out cyclingmagazine.ca. Steve was inspired to help fund this event by his wife, Kathy Buchanan, who just happens to be my first cousin and it's safe to say we both get our unbeatable spirit from our moms. But it's important to note that Kathy fought and survived an aggressive form of leukemia in the mid-1990s. Since its inaugural year, the Ride has raised over $119 million for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation. Steve leads by example and is an inspiration, and I sincerely hope everyone will support this month's Daffodil campaign. Thank you very much, Speaker. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just before Easter, Leon Corby, a member of our Queens Park family and friend of all passed away. It came as shocking and sad news to many of us. You only need to consider the words people use in the conversations in the hallways and offices, in the uproar of messages online, or at the beautiful celebration of his life last week to understand what Leon meant to many of us here. Words like wonderful, genuine, kind, ethical, decent, generous, fun, humble. There was a certain ease about being with Leon. Always smiling, always positive. He made no distinctions between people. He showed a genuine interest in whoever he was with. Many people have said that he made them feel special, and he had a penchant for nicknames, like bud and buddy a lot, and in this place where it's really easy to surrender cynicism and often really hard to build trust, you know, over 20 years as a journalist and as an advisor to two premiers, Leon understood the importance of generosity and small everyday kindnesses, and used them to lift up those people around him. We all knew Leon loved golf and hockey, and most importantly loved his family, especially proud of his children, Hannah and Lanny. To Brenda, Hannah, Lanny, his mother Karen, Hedy, and Greg, all of Leon's Queens, all of Leon's family, Leon's Queens Park family offers our sincerest condolences. Leon's easy smile and kind heart left a mark here, and we're all the better for it. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for your member's statements. The member from Northumberland, Quincy, U.S. Well thank you, Speaker. This past week I had the pleasure of delivering some great news in the municipality of Port Hope that will continue in the efforts to build Ontario up over the past few years. It's become more and more apparent that the Barrett Street Bailey Bridge has created some safety concerns and emergency access issues as Port Hope is separated by the Canterasca River, and this is one of the very few crossing speaker. A new two-lane bridge will alleviate traffic congestion and provide enhanced load capacity to handle today's transportation needs. Mr. Speaker, municipal status indicated over 1,700 vehicles cross the bridge each day. I'm delighted the province has recognized the need to invest in infrastructure projects in rural Ontario and contribute almost a million dollars for the replacement of the Barrett Street Bridge. Port Hope Mayor Bob Sanderson tells me that the One Lane Bailey Bridge was installed almost 40 years ago as a temporary solution when an existing bridge was damaged during a flood of the Canterasca River. He has elated that this bridge is finally being replaced with a long-term solution. Mr. Speaker, I'd also like to invite all members of the House to come to Port Hope on Saturday, April the 16th to watch and or participate in the annual Float Your Fanny Down the Canyon event. The community event has been ranked as the top 100 festivals in Ontario and is held every year in recognition of the March 21st 1980 Canterasca River flood that devastated the Port Hope downtown area. It is a 10 kilometer race in a canoe, kayak or whatever popular crazy craft where folks create homemade vessels to float down the river. It's always a great time and I hope to see all there. Thank you, Speaker. Thank you. I thank all members for their statements. It's now time