It's like this is before freaky rags and more and both have even met jay That was my first efap episode ancient times. Yeah, good old black panther Yep, this is one of the ones that were from uh the last stream rags. Have you heard of what happened to kanducky ballistics a while back? Yes Yeah, they um rifle blow up in the space. Oh, is he okay? Yeah, he uh, he was injured, but he uh is okay He had a 50 caliber rifle Uh freak accident just kind of blew up Uh, I'm guessing that that's quite uncommon that something like that happens very odd that a gun blows up in your face Yes, they are designed to uh, not do not do that. Yeah Well, I guess it's how how often the guns, uh, just malfunction like how often does that happen? That's the gun's fault. Oh pride. I mean in a way that's meaningful. Uh, Yeah, uh I can't imagine it's very often really I would imagine it would be incredibly rare. Yeah Yeah, it's uh Most errors are probably just from like just not a magazine a magazine not working well or Failure to feed leave all little things like that that are more annoyances than anything else or they're because it's not clean user error negligent discharges I remember I uh, I saw a video that was about negligent just discharged. I think I told you about this. There was one where a guy uh His girlfriend had a um, she was firing an ak and he was filming it And then she and then she turned around he's like, all right now turn and then she just points it directly out of He's like starts yelling at her as he jumps out of the way But she gets mad at him.  It's yeah, it's just gun safety. Um I remember I went down a rabbit hole on on like videos that we just talked about gun safety the four rules always assume the gun is loaded Never pointed at something. You're not willing to destroy Um, I think there were two more. Well, there are two more. They're four, but I finally remember those two Hi rags Hi, would you rather You know, I just gotta read these out. Okay. That's just how I love would you rather's more would you rather's please Would you rather let biden feed you his jolly rancher or drink harris's grandma's peach tea, which may or may not be her urine Oh, I'd rather be fed a jolly rancher. I feel like that's someone's fucking. Yeah, that's an easy one. That's easy And I was just thinking it could have been difficult Uh Happy new year boys. Here's the ddlc in 2021 so We are catching up here with 117 EFAP super chats, which was the happy new year's dream. Oh my god. Oh my god. Really?  So that obviously Was what you could call a little while ago like, you know, six months. Oh, we read it Well, yeah, the year is half over already. So it's literally been half a year But uh, as we've said on EFAP, I'll always get to it Here we are Yeah, I guess Yeah So I think I have six minutes to complete this mission. I don't think I'm gonna do it It's actually five and a half so yeah, but oh boy, I don't think I'm gonna do it um So, yeah, we're gonna have to do a lot of context gassing on these ones. It's gonna be tough Um, for example, you're watching gals acting wrong. I think that regards how shitty you're watching gals acting wrong Watching it. We're watching it at all is watching it wrong. Yeah, that's probably the one woman EFAP then Was that what we did on new years? I can't remember now. I think it was actually it makes sense one woman came out Christmas Oh Arnie at least is aware and acts hysterical on purpose because the director's also But also there are good moments with arnie like in the end of t2 Yes, sir. What makes it interesting to talk about? He's Capable of doing some stuff when he's got the right person pushing him to do it, I guess Ernie is strange in that he's acting his best when he's acting is really robotic Yeah, um, well then again, it is fun to see him animated as hell and done doing all kinds of Oh, yeah, it's very fun. Who killed the dinosaurs? The ice age. Yep, there it is.  Here's to many more EFAPs of years of EFAP goodness. Scritches for the rags Oh, thank you very much, and I'm glad that you are enjoying the podcast and it's helping you Um, you know enjoy things. I hope you enjoyed the six months between you sending that And the answering it while us answering it in terms of yeah, I hope you're okay the content that came out between those times We've been through a lot in the past six months in terms of arcs and media and stuff Um I save you steve. That's how we're gonna win not fighting what we hate saving what we love Well, she doesn't save him, but I mean saving him wouldn't have been a good idea Anyway, that's gonna complicate if you have to rose tico what the correct thing to do in that situation was You know save what you love is like, I don't think so, right? No Yeah To let it go See, I want I want more rose tico philosophy. You know, I wanted to talk Yeah Difficult issues. See what you think EFAP movies dragon heart ari's actor isn't it ari's actor is david fuelis. All right Even you did a lot more than just aries Yeah, he did a lot more than just I will destroy you But you're right. Yeah, and we uh, I think we do plan to check out dragon heart on That movie so give it time. Yeah, there's like four You'll there's like four dragon hearts. There's like five Uh scorpion king movies like here's a bunch. Well, I hear patrick stewart is in one of the dragon heart movies So Yeah, we'll get some patrick stewart action. No, why not? music again There is a french jonathan mackintosh the channel michael j Firmers la he looks like java with a pitchy voice his favorite character of the new star was his rose. Yeah, it's a super mackintosh Oh Well, you know, I heard sometimes we got jonathan mackintosh exists I remember the song Yeah Well, it's funny. He's kind of by he's kind of in to destroy it after he left No, I'm this frequency. I'm pretty sure he's more popular now. He's way more popular than she is for sure. Yeah Yeah, well, you know Yeah, I find it like how does because nobody cares about her anymore Like there was a time when it was just She was like the grift ran out. She gets like speaking arrangement Yeah, they just pay thousands and thousands of dollars like they pay so much money for these speaking engagements It's the only way she can get money these days because people don't support winner I don't think dude. That's so much money though.  You can't just make those for free. Not everyone can get out of it You know Yeah, I said get away.  Yeah, I guess that's the thing. I'm assuming I guess it's just the thing of like dude. It's what you're doing is like It's really gross But you don't care for some reason it's in service of so if you're an ideologue, it's fine Well, yeah, but the thing is I don't I don't know that I don't believe that she believes in anything Um, she's she's she's very much a super grifter type. Uh, yeah, like I don't he's a con man Absolutely, I guess that's what I'm saying is like if she was earnest that that just means a lot more to me if somebody's earnest like If somebody if I disagree with somebody but I believe they're telling me the truth Like and what they believe that's way more valuable to me than somebody who I don't believe is telling me the truth But agrees with me It's just I don't know Let me uh, let me check. Uh, what she's doing a feminist frequency Let me see that's good videos It has been three weeks since their last, um podcast Wow, um Let's see Yeah, these are not rated very well Of course they're not These get anywhere between Five thousand at the high end views and wow A thousand but between five to a one thousand views Dude, who's around at that point, you know? Yeah She has one called uh, what the falcon and the winter soldier gets wrong about america Oh What are the comments? Oh, I bet there's no comments. There are no comments probably aren't there? Yeah, yeah comments are turned off. Yeah. Yeah, nothing's changed on that front. I see Yeah, because I it would have been useful to find out what the message actually was Because I'm like I'm curious, but I'm not going to listen to an hour long podcast to find out um Anything interesting in here, um Yeah, they they haven't been very active Which is weird considering that they I I still don't understand how you get away with the non-profit thing because she's That's a non-profit company. I don't get it Oh, baby. I've unlocked times two studs Oh, Steve shives was a guest on one Yes, I do I now with extra context I find it amusing the whole conversation about angel and buffy How he preferred angel and his wife said to his face that that's probably because he's sexist And he's like yes, dear He didn't say anything about it.  You we know you are It really it goes without saying there's no point in even trying to defend myself there. Yeah All right, we're gonna do hoth battle first then I get my my double tisms. Did you beat it in time or? I did actually with two minutes to spare. A lot of chat was very proud of me Yeah, no, I'm I love this. This is subtle title Love cat love craft country and the inescapable real life horror of american anti-black racism Oh All right Rose would have had the plain gas a bunch of people Rose tico Would have had would have would have what had have had the plain gas a whole bunch of people I'm assuming he's referring to the first wonder woman. I was talking about the second one What would rose think about the steve travel situation in terms of saving what you love, you know because saving him would mean, you know Killing the innocent man Yeah, I'd love to have rose just slid into scenarios that Would confuse her tiny mind And leave her just like shocked as to what she could do or what not do, you know Well, I guess that's the the it's just it's complicated real life is really complicated It is I've watched batwoman fringy real life is simple. It's really easy I guess the problem with the you know by by saving what we love. It's like in world war two Or just any war in order to advance a cause that we believe to be just Like we we have to be willing to you know Sometimes you have to spill blood and that's just the way the whole thing If I if you can't be convinced to stop doing an evil thing through diplomacy what other choice is there?   No, it's fine. We'll just make some critique videos. We need to Uh Well, if she saved uh him in world war one, Steve wouldn't stop the plane and then a bunch of people would have died from gas Yeah, again, I was mostly talking about the second movie. I think at that point in the timeline. He's already done all that Yeah, it's all good. But if in the first one. Yeah, maybe she stopped Stephen doing that. She's like, no We gotta we can't be we gotta we gotta hug them. We gotta hug the germans until they stop That's what You almost want to force her into that scenario where she says the only only protect people Only save who you want to love blah blah blah And you're just like, all right, let me make this simple.  You have to shoot me to stop me. Okay She's like no He's like 10 Oh, this could be good. If someone just linked this in the discord to me That could be interesting Steve shives how to be a successful critic oscar professional youtuber.  Why would you use that face in your fucking? I mean granted all of your faces will be terrible, but like if that's one frame. Yeah, that's a really bad one Don't drop the video link in there.  I guess to do it the full time. What was does he have like a big patreon or something?  So that Uh Um, so yeah, I So what I don't understand is how can you be a professional youtuber with that? You know view count well, it doesn't they mean professional I guess we just mean that you're doing it and you make a living and he seems to be with that patreon That's a healthy patreon for a for a for a channel that small that's pretty much is it Uh, what was three? I got it in australian dollars about three thousand two hundred, which is I guess it's over two thousand us That's way more than you would expect for a channel outside I guess of the four people who watch him and there's some dedicated people in there But even then like two thousand like depending on where you live if you're making two thousand a month I think that's enough. Um Yeah, it depends.  So much better than it Oh He has a video that the snider cut is worse. Oh, wow. Good job.  Like I want it. You know what I mean, like I want to see what people think about anything that I make Well, you know, there's a lot of trolls out there for me Well, I guess it's just weird like it's it's it's not common that somebody who has a really good like to dislike metrics will turn off They're they're there. Yeah, that's something that people who get dunked on all the time. That's something they do Yeah, because I mean, you know That's a brag Lots of brag, but my metrics is usually like 99% Why would I want to hide that? Why would I want to hide something that good? This is six and a half minutes. Um, how to be a successful critic in six and a half man six and a half minutes Just write a book on it like oh wait, you don't need to it's not easy Yeah, and it's probably actually six minutes because there's probably gonna be cause they'll be out for a year Yeah, I am Yeah, I'm I'm down for maybe this could be potentially e-fappable. So we might have a stew shives for uh, yeah Exciting, yeah How to make a video on how to be a successful critic Like every every still Of him is just he just put to a random point and it's beautiful um So there isn't even a brick down here. I've been cheated Kind of just hoping I didn't ask because it looked all secrety um Keep bringing back john the arian man graham the arian man I'm happy for him. So he's he's a good guy. Yeah, definitely. He's popped up on a bit He's gonna be on them down. Do you see the arian man? Yeah, that's what they said Oh I don't know if that's how he labels himself, but yeah, that's fine I mean, I don't care if you're arian or not. I I have a lot of friends who aren't arian You can't help if you are if you're that right like I was gonna say as much as you feel that it has any mean, you know, you know people might Hold that against you, but I don't know All right, we're only after power brick. Okay, everyone. I'm not looking for the true Jedi that we might just accidentally get it In fact, anyone know where the power brick in this level is so that I don't end up spending ages and then not getting it That would be embarrassing Mala, they're the infinity bricks.  Hello. Hi At least those three dudes got a nice upskirt shot before they died island of misfit Where's You know, I don't know Is that from today or was that from? No, that was from years ago Ah, yeah island of misfit words. So w h dash r. Yes. I don't know if they're saying horse and they couldn't put it in Me or if it's saying something else We certainly don't know Island of misfit horse Maybe I don't know what that is either I've never heard of this island, but I'm curious to know where it is Yeah, how one gets so that you can avoid it Yeah, well, I don't mind if anyone I want to know Yeah, I I want to know where it is so I could buy a whore there All right, I guess it's in relation to them a skewer, right? Oh Not whore No, I know that's I yeah, that's right They will ride on a horse Yeah, the island of misfit horses now. That's the place I want to see Couldn't quite make it in normal society. They have to go to the island of misfit horses. Yeah That's right It's there right, okay Please give power break I saw the mini-care at least Oh, he killed me Um Aries has a lightning reflected back into him. Seriously. What is with evil people and lightning shooting back at them?   It is the power break Well, that's that's good. I guess Wonder Woman's weakness is 70 years of celibacy She's pretty strong Right Took me a while to get that one The amount of hate rebels gets it's All right. Well I guess I'll read this out The amount of hate rebels gets it's shockingly well written I'm sitting the most of the hate it gets because of the odd style at age rating.  It always gets you wondering.   Yeah, insanely disappointing. Yeah Yeah, and especially in the context of you know, you guys you all hate these things, but my thing that's the one that's good That's really good. Yeah It's like man kind of interesting Really, yeah, this one's different guys. This one's really good. I swear to god this one. Yeah Smash X to doubt Smash X to doubt.  Yeah That place that I'm putting that controller out in the middle of the desert and dropping bomb on it To test it The X button will still be there The power brick it's right there. Yay times two. Hopefully we'll be unlocked now I have the power brick Yeah Hey, man I think Athena alone could easily be Ares though thoughts Athena um Are we going by what metric here like the mythology or Um Pretty sure like Ares would still just kick the shit out of most people except for maybe Zeus Seems pretty aggressive.  I reckon As we saw it took Kratos Grabbing his old big old sword and sticking it in uh In dude's face to stop Mm-hmm You don't do that to just anyone I mean Kratos does it's just anyone, but you don't you know typical Well, he's an angry man. Okay Toxic male So he's even 12 angry man or no Kratos that would have been amusing I think he's innocent And then Kratos with sad is Blades of chaos or whatever that they're called the blades of chaos, right? I think the well it depends on which here are the chains of chaos No, they're not because the chains aren't the thing that you should be scared of it's the blades. So Blades of chains Depends on which game we're talking about. Ah, I see Upgrades different.  I think uh, it's got the guy who plays adam jensen. I think he's in it to some degree Polygon wonder woman has the power of forgiveness I don't keep up with polygon. What's the what what are they again? They're crazy, right?  Well, that's what yeah, that's samson did he like sort of used his hair to attack people I guess you could interpret it that way. Uh, bayonetta and samson related Wow Didn't samson get his eyes? Probably not because neither of them are real, but Do you really need your eyes? Well, he didn't need his eyes because he was strong enough to uh to tear down the pillars, right? Yeah, and he only didn't have his eyes at the very end or the vast majority of his life He could see just fine. I remember samson was one of the the less offensive ones I remember it was joe that really was uh, I really found that one distressing any particular reason The fact that joe was punished for being a good person just because god wanted to make a point No, he wanted to make a point to satan Yeah, that's that's what I mean. It's like even worse. He wasn't even trying to make a point It's a joke. He was making it say joe was caught in the crossfire.  Yeah Well, I think it's just the idea that again.   Yeah, absolutely You look at even that it's a tragic hero. It's literally about the the stories are about The the character of god and the things that he does him as a real character And for the most part these stories were taken literally for the vast majority Of biblical history like the history of you know the world It's like even if it wasn't taken literally what a shit story with a horrible horrible message Well, if it were in adapted to a movie, I'd be like that's not very satisfying I don't know about this. Yeah, god guy Yeah Well, I mean it could be a really interesting story as a tragedy that despite everything that's happened job still put us back in the man who wronged them by the entity who wronged them Like if you because the story could be like a heroic story if he ultimately moves past his uh You know that relationship and decides to be good for its own sake into finance of god almost right Poor job Yeah, god has a plot device the bible is a morality tale. Oof. That doesn't hurt your point. My that doesn't help your point My dude, I don't see how that helps you right like doesn't that mean so it's all a lie like a fictional right is that Because that's the problem is like you got to pick one or the other if it's fictional and it's a morality book. That's fine But like do you believe it literally like that god actually exists. That's a good moral though from the job Well, I don't well. I I agree but yeah Even after because I've checked two different websites right now on lessons that you're supposed to take from the book of joe And they're like they're shitty It's all about Like here, let me do this top 10 here 10 lessons we learned from the book of joe bad things happen to good people That's the only one that's like applicable, but that's just an observation Bad things happen. That's not a lesson But like it's not even accurate the bad things happened because he was a good person Yeah, you have to Rip away a lot of the stuff in that story to get to that one in that one. It's not even a lesson It's just an observation and that's the only one here that seems to be even like applicable Number two in the midst of suffering We must never lose our hope in god Like oh Number three our friends may fail us in the midst of our misery, but god never does What? Yeah, god does yeah Four even in the midst of god's silence his presence is with us Yeah, he's damn looking at you say see see say see look. He's still my bro Even after I killed us all family Wisdom comes from fearing god and turning away from evil. What? Wisdom comes from fear God is with us in the midst of our storms That's the same as four and sort of the same as three as well Seven god is in control. Oof. That's uh, uh, sorry I feel compelled to address spring is not the story is the story of job not stoicism incarnate Well, so there are a few key modifiers, right? It's like it's stoicism. It's not that you're meant to be indifferent to the bad things But but fundamentally it's not it's not like god is punishing you Like that's the big element that's taken out of it that in in like stoicism It's not like well no you still got to have faith in god like it is screwing you over It's the idea of if bad things happen You just got to try your best not to let it derail you but in job It's it's oh don't let it derail you but still have faith in the person who was responsible for your suffering Like worship him not even yet worship him Yeah, and a big thing as well like oh, he's by your side like whereas in stoicism.   Well, I feel like because the the big thing is that there was no attribution in like stoicism It's not like somebody did this to you. It was just something bad happened. It was just unlucky Or rather that there isn't lucky or unlucky It's just things happen and how you respond to them is the real determiner of like your character But in this story all that matters is that you're loyal to god It doesn't even really matter like if your life sucks and you're miserable It's okay if you're miserable as long as you're loyal to god the guy who did it to you That's a really walked and modified idea of responding to adversity by just maintaining your composure It's a really big difference Yeah, so you have number seven god's in control big oof Number eight sometimes in the midst of our suffering we sin All right Uh nine sometimes we sin against our friends okay 10 after repentance and forgiveness comes blessing. It's like But what does he have to repent for he did nothing wrong? He was a good person What's the whole book? Not just the job story. All right. Yeah, right because he eventually does get mad, doesn't he? Like eventually he's like dude.   I think um, I think a big difference between didn't do this to me. I'll say that Okay, I made the mistake of looking at chat to see uh, if anyone saw the fact that I completely got the wrong power brick And I see you complete don't understand the story god didn't do anything to job. He let satan do it All right, so it's the same thing So we're not even going to get into the fact of why did god make satan at all Why does he allow satan to operate in the world where people are legitimately and reasonably Convinced to fall prey to him and god knows it, but he allows it to happen Oh, man You see how it's really good if five seconds If you have a philosophy that doesn't ascribe that there are these characters who are fucking with your life That it's really a lot easier to find fundamental rules and principles that you can derive from these stories about adversity and apply them to your life Because that's the thing if bad things happen and you respond well to them That's a really good like way to approach life Where nothing can really push you over the edge. Nothing can truly destroy your character When you add the modifier of oh, but by the way, you need to pay penance to the guy who did this to you Um, and also everything will be okay in the end. I think that's the big delusion that everything will be okay in the end Like um, you have to work towards that.  You gotta do stuff But yeah, if that's I think it's looking back on these stories and seeing how just horrendously shit they are And realizing how much I gave them How much importance and value I gave them when I was younger It kind of is like it it's kind of shocking, you know I think yeah, but you're I think that's the big element.  So if you get exposed, yeah, man, get him young. Yeah Get him young Yeah, it's it's gonna be a lot harder to uh, I guess to accept Well, he got a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit I think it's just um, I don't know it's uh Yeah, get it when you get exposed to it early and that's sort of Hamid in and also it's like the only you know, everybody around you believes the same thing It can be really hard to like not Sort of accept it Um, let's see bible talk tv Oh, no Seven lessons from job number one god is great Okay, that's the first lesson from job that we need to learn god is great. I think me like god is great isn't Powerful than powerful. Clearly, but I agree. Yeah, he's powerful. Yeah Um To our strength is in god not self I don't like that at all. I don't like that at all message. Well, in fairness.  So Yeah, it's it's just like the last list where it's all You have to it's come from a place where you presuppose that all of this stuff is real And that god's just the fucking greatest because these are people talking he's preaching to the choir Is what it is if you want to actually convince me these are not built to convince someone who doesn't Like these are four people who want to see things the way that you see them Which is by the way, what an amazing handicap Uh But let's see number three your faith works only when you work your faith Okay, okay, all right uh The Like it's one of those. How do I they say like strengthen your faith and then you ask But like what is that? Like what does that mean like walking through the steps of that? It's it's because that's just a platitude strengthen your faith Because I believe even harder in things you have no evidence for I will do my best Number four is be still Which I guess is meaning That's contextual you don't want to be still when you're in the ocean maybe This says uh, be still and know that I am god. We rarely learn anything while thrashing about spiritually Know that Note that joe's wife was exasperated with him Do something she said she more or less said to him even if it meant cursing god and ending one's life Well, I mean camp if like the the creator of the universe is pitted against you like man um However the spiritual man or woman's first response to crisis is stillness not action basically It seems to be saying that um, it really shitty things are happening to you Don't lose faith in god Don't don't be Dynamic Number five realize that no one really knows how it feels Um in in relation to what It says each person suffering is unique Even if some of the details are similar to someone else's experience One of joe's Friends was that his friends assumed they knew exactly what he was going through Or why he was suffering and how to make things right um That might have just been So that as far as we know That could have just been his friends like clumsily trying to empathize or trying to help him out. So Well, remember the friends were like trying to tell him Things that that were actually like I remember vaguely that they were telling him things that were accurate like you've been screwed over here um You've been screwed over Yeah, that's an understatement I guess Yeah, and then he didn't respond to them When you are the one undergoing the trial save your energy and trying to explain how it feels or what the experience is like Since aside from the comfort of venting Someone else understanding doesn't usually solve the problem It can help. What a bizarre What is a bizarre thing to tell people talking to people about your problems can actually be really helpful Yeah Especially if they really care about you and they legit want to know how you're feeling And an outside perspective can be valuable Um, like it can help if you feel like you're going insane to have somebody just relate to that I'm talking it out. It'll help you understand what you think about it as well exactly Lots of benefits. It says Like job, we should pour out our hearts to god who does know and who can help relieve our suffering But how if god knows the source of it? Yeah, he he's the source of it And he already knows so like what's the point? Like if I vent my frustrations to someone else It's either because I'm trying to Get some comfort from venting like it's good to get it out It's good to know that someone is able to listen It's good to help them empathize with me and it connects us personally because I'm the I see them as a person who Like I wouldn't go to a stranger and say some of this stuff potentially But someone I might care about I'll go to them and if they listen and seeing how they react to it might, you know, strengthen our relationship, but They're just like nah to save your energy. Don't you just don't try to explain Um some number six sometimes you don't know and you will never know why Which there's um, there might be something here That yeah, but not in the world where god exists not really because there is a reason It's all god. Yeah. Um, yeah as opposed to in reality where it's life is chaotic and unpredictable Even though in the end god faced and spoke to joe corrected him For gave and restored him because joe really needed that forgiveness It didn't didn't god like kill joe's family and shit like that So I remember the first thing was he'd like killed all of his livestock And then I think he destroyed his house while his family was in it and killed all of them Um, so how do you restore did he bring them back to I think he just got to give him a new family, right? He didn't actually he got really crappy health too. That was like the last thing. He was incredibly ill Um, yeah, he made him very sick. Yeah So Yeah, I don't know how you Just I don't think he brought him back to life because god generally doesn't do that It's a he saves that for special occasions I guess what I find weird is that You've just read these two lists that have quite varying interpretations And I feel like if we're trying to communicate lessons clearly we can do a better job than this Yeah, you would just speak to me personally like if we're able to edit the bible I'd be like, let's lose this one the job story. It's a bit, you know I guess you just So Like I just looked up. Um, this is called the tale of two wolves.   It is anger jealousy greed resentment inferiority lies in ego. The other is good It is joy peace love hope humility kindness empathy and truth The boy thought about it and asked grandfather, which wolf wins the old man quietly required the one you feed It's like, all right, nice simple story And you can and it's like a really clear message immediately learning that in high school. Yeah, yeah, it's like I've never heard of that one.  I went to Catholic high school. Uh, he's the one who told us that story It's very nice. Yeah, it's it's nice and simple Typical new age that was native american Cherokee. That's okay. Okay on a galactic scale that's On the cosmic timeline that was basically yesterday Like what did they put a capper on that you guys got to use capper and text again You need to use a cap a smug roster, right? Yeah Like a new age native American folklore you one of them progressive tribes, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah.  I like that stuff. I think it's really cool rocks just like my grandfather had Spirit animals Well, you just want to throw a story on that already. It's like my spirit animal is a walrus. You're like, oh Well, I guess it's interesting to think about because a lot of it is us ascribing I mean it's anthropomorphism ascribing human traits to animals, but it's kind of almost irresistible to not do that like, um to ascribe Stuff like nobility to the lion or cheekiness to the coyote, you know um Solitude no the wolf is not solitude at all. It's the opposite of that well, um The pack with a lone wolf is like a whole thing in there Yeah, lone wolf is a that's Like like that even though apparently in nature Wolves don't stay lone wolves for long Usually my spirit animal a spiral of the dragon if you took crack That's why that's it's weird. I catch the dragon You know, but we have our We have we have our last uh lesson about the job story But we'll number six was sometimes you don't know and you'll never know why Fair enough and If I was gonna say that was my lesson that I had to give I'd say Look, it's good to know You know the hows and whys of the world a lot of the times, but some you just you gotta be Willing to understand in life.   Oh no Even though in the end god faced and spoke to joe but corrected him For gave him and restored him Okay Yeah, let's get that out of the way guys. God made it all okay. So what did job do did job like cares god by the end of the story I think you got mad at one point. Yeah, you probably got he might have gotten upset. Yeah, I think I swear When his whole family Not liking you right now. I'm gonna put you in my thumbs down book So the actual moral of job life's rough get a helmet.  You can be like, hey, what do you ask him? You ask him anything and he'd be like, yeah, I actually know the answer this time Because I know everything and I did it I did it to you boy ask away peasant It's like why did you do this? It's like well satan. He was just talking mad. Shit. All right He was saying that I couldn't do this and that and I was that that got me bad. I'm not gonna lie I got me really bad But I proved him wrong and it's like oh, thanks Really glad I guess you did. Can I have my family back? It's like no, that's only reserved for like special people. All right. You're not that special Uh, but number seven Well, we never got to number six. I guess what their thing is He never revealed the job the reason for his suffering. That's kind of exclamation point He never revealed to job the reason for his suffering Are they saying that like it's a plus it's like that's important to remember because that means that I think the logic was even though even though god totally made it okay in the end He never revealed the job the reason for his suffering which is if I was job I'd be like god.  Well, I think I think what they're trying to say is the moral is it doesn't matter why the bad things happen to you You regardless of why they happen even if it was just or unjust You should just accept that and move on And it's never I'm doing a lot of work for them though. Yeah, that's thing It's never just the actual lesson that is super applicable and helpful It's always in this big shell of god. Jesus. God. Jesus. God. God faith I just saw a question in chat that I feel is worth addressing. Oh, no, it's scroll away. Uh Where do morals and morality come from not being confrontational? I'm genuinely asking your position I believe they come from just like evolution Yeah, that's uh, they're evolution and culture Yeah, when you say where do they come from it's like we as a co-op It's like we try and generate a set of principles and then we branch them out Into actions and try and act consistently and thus How we've set out what is right? Well, if we're talking about like the origin I imagine that it was people realized really early on that killing each other was incredibly Disadvantages in terms of evolution That like the pack Basic morality has a lot of If everyone did what everyone wanted to do it's just chaos. It's it's all over. Yeah And so yeah, and then as Sides and brains got more and more and more complex and as we invented philosophy and all these kinds of things it got more and more deep and Complicated and you know that sort of thing and it evolves like a lot of other things. Um, well, I think I think it's pretty culture and our biology and How we evolved over a cajillion years You know it has taken the shape that it has taken. I mean a lot of it doesn't take its value away You know, it's it's no less important and incredible and wonderful and important because it didn't come from some You know supernatural deity And I guess the big thing is that you can see other elements of similar things in other animals like a Like a desire to protect each other and not to hurt each other And of course, there are some animals that do fight each other, but we fight each other so I don't know what to say that and um And it's and it's you know, it's it's the idea of empathy It's like I can see that being an evolutionary advantage that the animals that don't fucking kill it all of each other to death Are the animals that end up doing pretty well Dolphins don't tend to fight other dolphins or maybe they do but they don't like hunt each other It's an extinction or anything And and then from that base you can derive a lot of things like I don't know Monkey picks up a rock and starts playing with a rock and then other monkey takes the rock Monkey one is like oh, that's my rock give it back I had it. I found it first You can have that rock and then monkey two is like, ah, I see and that way we can both have rocks and we're both happy And when we're happy we're more productive.  It's the general principle respect rock rights You guys are so close to addressing the real point of contention because your points were nonsensical. They're not but I don't know how I'm meant to respond to this like the problem is that whatever argument to present are gonna Probably not going to be all that compelling. Well, I always feel like the people who say stuff like that Don't know that everything is based on axioms. Oh, where where? Right, so the follow-up for that chatter was where do where do our christians derive their morals? Well, from what I understand the idea is that they are imprinted on you by god But like god created the world And of course the problem is that we recognize that that's kind of not universally true for all human beings There are some people who don't have empathy just categorically their brain just makes it hard for them or impossible for them If you're a psychopath or a sociopath because unfortunately the human mind is kind of complicated and a bit fickle We still don't really fully understand how it works. I mean, we may never Well, it's complicated like consciousness is uh is one of them crazy challenging sort of issues Where's my power brick? And uh number seven god often uses crisis to bless this spiritually Thanks god for like allowing the crisis The thing is is that there is value in the idea of like, you know, this is actually a misnomer But that crisis an opportunity of the same word in mandarin. It's not true. They're not the same word But I like the idea that in a crisis there's like an opportunity to to grow to learn something um To find like new strength. It's a challenge to overcome I guess the problem is that there is no real overcoming in joe's story.   I got my power brick just saying Did you just get your power brick? It was hidden behind a wall like and I didn't know it was there. I was just looking around Oh good times school times too Um, the real question becomes how do you justify certain morals in the world driven by facts and morality If morality is just uh something we have made with no real basis, how do we justify punishing and moral actions? Um, well morality is subjective We we need to like we have to it's gotta be wait wait wait. No. No. I don't I don't agree with a premise All right morality is just something we have made with no real basis. No, there is a basis from it Like society doesn't work in real kill each other Yeah, like there's absolutely a basis for morality.  Yeah from all over From this vast distance three very different people can come together and have these discussions And people can listen to them and we can talk about it and You know civilization that does all of these things like there's absolutely a basis for it I I don't agree with the premise that there is no basis for it. That's that's kind of ridiculous And it yields broader. I think that's a big thing is that like moral systems that we've crafted can build Bigger things that we weren't capable of if we didn't have those systems because we wouldn't have been able to get to that point Like we wouldn't be able to get to the point of society if we didn't have things like let's not kill each other Let's not steal from each other As like fundamental rules that we that most people try to adhere to Because we don't have that we don't have an economy Um, and we don't have like any degree of order or cohesion It's what is that philosophy from bed with no god Oh I got some bad news about some of the greeks that you know, okay here am I dude? I don't even know You need to like that that is the kind of thing that somebody says who hasn't engaged with philosophy at all Yeah, you're gonna have to read a book that isn't the bible my dude. I'm sorry. That's dude. That's something real I can't believe someone would have said that It does really sorry about the surprise me sometimes. I'm just like I guess people still don't know where sometimes we just like Yeah, yeah, these people. Yes It is valuable to get that every once in a while to remind you that these people do really exist There are people who think that it's just I wonder if anybody like it's incoherent that if you don't believe in a god You have no place discussing philosophy. I wonder if anyone has trouble with that in our audience where they're like I agree with them on like so much stuff, but they don't believe in god You know no because we this is efap. We have a we have a standard and well, I just I wonder if that helps Helps move them toward a place of like maybe it is possible to like believe in all of this stuff while also not having the book You're lack of faith has turned you into twisted shells I thought it was Disney Star Wars that did that That's a good meme That's a good meme the real rod at your soul Bro, I got times two studs now. We're really ramping up this gameplay When I enter double double stud rooms. Oh, the quad studs Quad studs you need eight octa studs. Yeah We were walking really high potential then Think it back when I was young Um, the job story was very it was very uncommon that that was ever one of the things that was talked about Um, and there's a part of me that wonders is it just because they wanted to focus on other stuff? Is it or is it because tactically? That's just like a hard one like you know the story of the she bears and stuff That one didn't get a lot of screen time at mass just saying that one We did that one didn't yeah I guess I wonder who bolded earlier. It was just like find some camaraderie in that story It's like yeah, you shouldn't make fun of someone for that.  I think yeah Yeah, that's Sodom and Gomorrah where the the two towns were evil and um instead of trying to reform those towns they got destroyed And whatever Sodom. Yeah if she turned around to look at it. She turned it to salt which she did I remember there was a cartoon where that happened And the agent was laughing and he's just like okay, uh my wife's a pile of salt It's like well, we didn't tell her not to turn around. It's like yeah, but you didn't really emphasize it It's like but we didn't tell her it's like well had you said don't turn around or else it turned into a pillar of salt I think she would have listened Well, here's the thing Yeah, you gotta I mean you gotta Yeah, and by learning the hard way means dead Let me let me find because I can't remember if it was through if god said it himself Or if it was someone Claiming that that's what god said um Let me see uh Let's see man of Sodom.  It's like no that's not allowed man. I am tired and lot turned back to see your stoppings like no He runs towards her We're not because if he turns around he turns into a pile of salt Oh, yeah, that's right He had to turn around but he closed his eyes So he didn't look behind him and then he tried to reach in the dark to get her hand to keep pulling her away And it was too late when he found it. It was all salt He opened his hand and it was just salt.  You'll always be there with you. Yeah In the cute story really it's kind of romantic I remember uh Jonah in the whale that was always a that was a that was a weird one I can't remember exactly what the point of that one was.  You can't get away. You can't run away from faith Yeah, if god if god's got a plan for you, it's gonna happen. Don't dude, that's terrifying He's coming. There's other stuff you could pull from it. Obviously Well, you mentioned the fear god earlier and you're like the surprise him is like god fearing is considered a good trait Right, like I don't know why hearing isn't it was it's like it's it's respecting. Yeah, like you understand What you're dealing with you don't like terrified of god. You showed your place. Yeah He's a big boy that god. He'll he'll throw a lightning bolt probably Be careful.    Whereas these ones and discussing it would probably be pretty fun Like you'd be like, yeah, I think it means to feed each side and and how much in regulation should you probably and stuff but You know some other stuff I guess discussed might not go that way Talk about a tangent. What's the uh, what's the next Well, the funny thing is the top that I can see right now says the bible is very mixed in terms of writing The mixed very nick You can you can drag some good stuff from the bible kicking screaming. Absolutely There's some good stuff in there. Um, I imagine that there is just some Even not debatably just unironic good stuff completely. Sure.  How do these get past the first draft? They had like a publisher. It's like, you know the she bears story. Do you have to keep that one? It's weird. It's like it's really important. I'll self publish you.  No, it's fine. You can keep you can keep the bears But like it used to be much worse. Well, the story is that's it does like yeah, I get the point but like Do you have to tell the point this way?  Who's that you believed enough to publish a book? A lot of steps to them I remember Psalms was okay. There was some cool stuff that you could pull from Psalms But that was because Psalms was more just like a string of quotes like more so than than a set of stories Uh, didn't need to go on vacation A lot of it was pretty good I didn't need to go on vacation while the workers were living day to day because Feminist frequency went bankrupt living like a true commie that one Did that go bankrupt? I don't know any specifics on that wouldn't surprise me.  So I guess it's got to stop at some point Yeah, oh, do they let me check there.  Someone's actually looking it up um Feminist frequency is creating problems for the patriarchy aka podcasts This is how they this is how they wrote it. It's creating problems Yeah, this is how they uh, that's how they wrote it Okay, okay Here are their uh, do you here? Here are their Tears Minimum five bucks, of course you can be a vanquisher of patriarchy for 29 oh my god, dude for just 25 I can vanquish patriarchy and They have 429 patrons and they're getting 3200 a month so that's Yeah, that's That's something else But here's the thing too, um, their minimum is five bucks Do you want to know some something hyper cringe and downright like we're going into hell will ranks? I would love to know something hyper cringe Okay, so I only know this because I briefly saw it on a stream In article form. I told Fringy about it. Um Apparently I'm gonna remain vague on names and places because first of all I'm not 100% sure where it was but also then I don't get any allegation trouble. I'm just paraphrasing events All right, you can go google for these things to see if it's true It was an event somewhere for pride and Obviously a lot of it was related to like I guess pride for race as well and um, they were stopping people They're stopping people at the entrances To give them tests To see just how white or black they were And that would determine how much money they had to pay to get in That's pretty cringe That's not that's what we go good old-fashioned discrimination Really bad, but it's for the right reasons.  Well, I mean we've just changed that saying but the idea here was that Black people get in for free white people have to pay and that it was under the idea of reparations Oh, yeah, that's how they were justifying um literally like What the like where what's happening like you literally are preventing entrants to pride From white people unless they pay it's like guys Hate to bring up that good old horseshoe meme, but what the hell you go in a little far It's okay when we do it to the right people Someone uh, someone's uh, the best bible verse is proverbs chapter 25 verse 24.   Uh, you're right. There's gems in there, man.   That's good stuff Uh cinematic venom is next efab gas to when well, you know what not saying no to anything Oh, yes to anything. We'll see what happens as time goes on. I heard He released his new lord the rings review And um, I haven't seen it, but from what I hear it's it's a little different and and his previous one that way A little different Now since we're on the topic of all I think amazon's patriot is good I think someone's mentioned amazon the show there's a show called patriot before um, but I am out of the loop on that one Likewise The real power brick was the friends we built along the way. That's cute awesome I'm just glad I got times two now. I can feel way richer I don't have to worry about true jedi because it's pretty much gonna have to like fail miserably not to get it now uh Yay bible efab fight the bible do it cowards Not really fair. It's just a little book. Well, we can kick it over and it'll just I'm pleased when efab brings up religion Especially because they helped in the sense that because of them I decided to apply my standards equally Damn Well, so the the thing is right someone's gonna get offended by this But I mean it's the fucking truth me ringing and rags kind of treat the bible just like we treat um a lot of stories Which is like someone wrote it. They tried to get a message across that is pretty inept And we're not a fan of the characters My lord. Yeah, so yeah, we're not yeah, very unsympathetic protagonist um A lot of the villain is Stood While the hero is like He's a bit of an asshole Yeah, it's it's written shockingly like a lot of the bad media and stuff we get today And the themes are the themes are definitely not supported by the work itself Who have you read all of it? I actually think I probably have It's been a long time since I've A lot most of it I've forgotten because most of that everyone will forget because um Huge chunk of it is dry boring garbage But yeah, there's the stuff that a lot of people Yeah, I wouldn't you know what I wouldn't have to read it If god just spoke to me directly in my head at no cost to himself, but that is all right uh Where's jango could target multiple people? I would make his double shot cooler Um The bible is nuanced.  It is super duper nuanced Definitely very nuanced the space lizards made god do it. Well, yeah, that could be the case for all we know Yeah, I have some sympathy there for that I'm so glad I wasn't raised in a country full of religious maniacs something in this comment is not allowed by youtube what the hell um Would it be maniacs? Because what people are doing to get around it is to spell everything in a weird format I can still read it, but I guess youtube doesn't detect it I'm not sure like maniacs might be enough for youtube to clip you on that. I don't know um Tringy's has been hotel tech made no sense that shows world is awful, but in the well I shitty pace full of shitty people Sense like living in south sudan What I really don't know.  Isn't that the idea? I don't know because I haven't seen it yet if we're talking about the What's it called the has been hotel thing because I've never seen it.  So around season five They added to his story that he's genetically enhanced to justify his over skills Um, also high-race guy wolka also rag is where are you in t and n g so far? I've watched it all It's been a while since I've seen a lot of it, but um That would be a show to go through I think that would be a really interesting set of e fat minutes We went through all of star track. I think I think people would love and hate that They would love to see us go through it And they would also hate it if we didn't like particular episodes. They love, you know Yeah, I think there are some quite good ones, but there's a lot of bad ones like season one I don't think there's There's not a lot of good stuff at season one that first season So but but there is there are legitimately good stuff There's just a lot of good bits like you could if a random like I remember, uh I think it must have been like last month or a couple months ago. I was at my folks house And after dinner we were just sitting around talking and there just happened to be an episode of star trick voyager on And we just sort of watched it And it was it's kind of good because I liked it. It was enjoyable and there was cool I expect farscape. I remember farscape I saw all the farscape. I remember liking sculptius and uh Brighton's relationship quite a bit. I wouldn't mind rewatching that someday too You know what potential is infinite with efap. You never know what we're gonna cover But I would say like for all those out there who'd be like excited at the prospect of us covering star track If you knew ahead of time that we were gonna dislike maybe 60 70 percent of the the eras that you love Would you then not want us to cover it at all if you knew that was gonna happen? I wonder Because I'm sure there's loads of great stuff in star track um But I'm assuming it's a show with a bit of a rocky beginning and Possibly bits and bobs here and there's probably like buffy to be honest What which show Oh, just like in general or um, yeah, I guess Do we even even the original series probably has some really good episodes in it, right? I don't know Oh, yeah, there's some good stuff in the original, but it was definitely Like you can sort of tell it's the first one, you know There's good stuff in there. There's good stories. Um, it is You know, it product of its time in a lot of ways And and you got that big gap before tng comes out and all the stuff that went into that and it started very rocky But it got to be quite good over time and there's some really good stuff in there It's like it's just one of those shows where you just listen to people talk to each other And you go, oh Characters talking to each other. That's that's kind of nice how they're just like Talking to each other like people would do Having like conversations and sort of they would hate it and they are not an objective source by adiabatric Us I guess not, um, I feel like we're pretty good. We're trying to be objective wrong that I feel like Oh, yeah, absolutely. I feel like we feel like we do a decent job. Yeah We can enjoy things that are bad. There are plenty of Star Trek episodes that have some pretty big issues with them Um that I really like that have interesting messages that are done well enough What's it go to darmak and darmak I think is just the name of the episode the famous episode darmak Starts off with an absolutely ludicrous and stupid nonsensical premise that makes no sense whatsoever Once you get over that premise It's really it's a really nifty episode that Has a lot of really good stuff in there that's done very interestingly Um, but boy, it's all built off of a totally nonsensical, you know premise, but Yeah, you could you could recognize apparently they meant rlm not us. Um They said the reasoning is the oh, yeah rlm is yeah, they could be wrong rlm has As issues for ds9 that they have money and have space bells I mean, it's not that I don't think rlm are capable of mistakes But I would I would still want to see the context of them saying that to know You know what the argument is Because having money could be a valid criticism of something if I knew the wider context I uh, yeah, I like rlm a lot, but there's definitely things I say But naturally they are you know, they're another agent, so you know that You know Which one has the least consistent universe crisis on infinite earths or Loki as of now or the bible Um, probably crisis. That's what I would go with I think I'm gonna go with crisis um as for Loki I mean, I all of the stuff that like the big stuff in it. It doesn't Truly alter the universe it alters the universe as we know it In a really fucking shitty way that devalues a crap ton of everything like basically devalues everything That doesn't break it Well, I think it like the nothing about the tv makes any sense with what we understand about them All of their like tools how they operate like how they were that yeah, that's that yeah I guess I was I guess I was talking about the yeah, I know you mean another part of it But yeah that too But I just think that crisis relies on Just the incomprehensible story creep of all time and space and the cosmos and reality itself um and Like the infinite I mean like infinite universes and infinite parallel worlds, but I think the Like as far as we know or from what we're told in Loki those can't even exist because they Stopped those parallel universes from happening And multiverses from you know occurring Even though I guess there were a bunch at the beginning But they had a war in the time lizards camera. I don't know.   I'm not even sure it feels like a malformed question to me um Oh, yeah, we we just so human rights are not inherent to humans However, they're insanely beneficial I mean, yeah, like if if we treat people like they have rights and we have governments whose job is to uphold those rights With all the problems that can happen because of that it is insanely beneficial It produces incredibly good results And it does really really good for the people who have those rights If we act as if people have those rights, it's beneficial for societies and for individuals. It has demonstrable positive effects That's that's that's the simple way of putting it honestly um Like even like humans don't have inherent human rights. Um We invented those Oh, I guess the point they're trying to make is you can't draw it out of science. You have to find it somewhere else or something It's just like What about if it's just humans agree upon this concept that there are certain things you can't um breach As long as something qualifies as a human Like why do you need anything so that we can come up with that? Yeah There are tens of thousands of many many tens of thousands of years of progress um there We we have found and discovered Rocky as that trip was we have discovered a lot of great things human rights being one of those really great things that make society better For basically everybody Um, and so we thought they were a good idea to hold on to and this time has gone on human rights and the discussion of what is a right and Our ability to preserve human rights has gotten better and better But it's not about the thing doesn't have to be inherent to Uh to have value or to have you know a utility Or you know to be useful Being trolled by my video game Telling me I need to go human rights make these worse for The only thing that I would say human rights could make things worse for Would be the very powerful people and in the short term um So in there in in the in like an immediate Very short term Isolated occurrence, right? um Not respecting someone else's human rights Can be beneficial to you but again You want that's in like that one isolated event like sure Maybe it's beneficial for you in an incredibly short term way of looking at it and just for you That you kill that guy and take his stuff But Because you don't want people to kill you and take your stuff And because you could you know you could get punished for that and we're really good at punishing people for doing that And you live in a society full of all kinds of other people who have to deal with each other all the time It's really really advantageous for you to Act as if people have rights and have them act as if you have rights um There's it's it's like the It's like it this a it's a character that you see in Uh fiction a lot of the times someone who's evil or or or um like if you're playing a d&d game And someone is an evil character and so they just randomly do evil things even though It makes no sense for them to do it and they'll almost certainly get caught It's a chaotic stupid characters um Like i'm going like oh my character's evil So i'm going to pick pocket the king during his coronation because he's probably got some valuables in his pockets And i'm evil and i want to make money.  I don't know what I mean in the sense that human brains that came from nature Invented the concept of human rights sure human rights come from nature But every but i'm a i'm a naturalist in the sense that I don't think that there's a supernatural element to the cosmos So I would say that everything comes from nature to some degree but That's yeah, but for a lot of things you have to take a lot of steps back for it Anyone in chat know what this minikit is? It's driving me nuts the game says over here If you look at the screen, they give you a little flash and light for where it is a narrow This flashing light says it's over here Like oh weird and then it's like no actually it's over here to the left like there's nothing here And then you think all right gotta go down then it takes me to this area, but there's no flash and light in this area at all Oh someone out there right brad It's like shooting your own goon for no reason.   I don't actually do anything until I find this thing If no one in chat knows where it is and my detective can't tell me where it is and I can't find it Is a white arrow mola There he's the slight arrow It's all the red one It's a red one Um Season two of the bible the new testament wasn't a lot better than season one Well, you know, there was a lot of opportunities for them to correct a lot of mistakes in the uh First episode that they just didn't take in the second episode Arguably it got even worse because it cemented a lot of things as definitely being real um concept of she all in hell and eternal torment and suffering And they never went back on a lot of the old stuff like slavery is like uh big oof. That's a missed opportunity right there You're right. There was a red. Wait, what the fuck's the red arrow for? I will applaud a movie that does that trip correctly. Yes like a new hope And the empire strikes back No, not a new hope. I'm sorry. Yes the empire strikes back is what I'm thinking of. Yeah Unfortunately, that's probably the movie that started that trope The bad guy kills his own men Oh, uh, I think vader's responsible for that. Yeah, um Yeah, which is a shame because he did it in a way that's totally fine and understandable Yeah, and there's a couple of things that still do it in justify way, but they just I think writers are like It isn't intimidating. He's so willing to kill. He'll kill his own men. You know, like that's not intimidating.    I'm googling this right now. I don't know about that young jesus kills, I mean jesus google not Jesus infancy Gospel of thomas Suppose the author has been named thomas the israelite. Um It's a biographical gospel About the childhood of jesus believed to date at the latest to the second century Um Let's see Proto orthodox christians regarded the infancy gospel of thomas is inauthentic and heretical A subious rejected it as a heretical fiction in the third book of his fourth century church history and pope blah blah Oh pope glacius the first included it in his list of heretical books. Uh, let's see.  Um There is a story here about Let me see. Um in another episode a child disperses water that jesus has collected Jesus kills this first child when at age one he curses a boy Which causes the child's body to wither into a course Later jesus kills another child via curse when the child apparently accidentally bumps into jesus throws a stone at jesus or punches jesus depending on the translation That seems to be a pretty big difference Baby jesus man when joseph and mary's neighbors complain. They are miraculously struck blind by jesus That hurt this curse not miraculously struck this curse Jesus then starts receiving lessons, but arrogantly tries to teach the teacher instead upsetting the teacher who suspects supernatural origins jesus is amused by the suspicion which he confirms and revokes all his earlier apparent cruelty.  This is the white list He says i'm an atheist, but man, even this feels heretical to me. He's like, yeah, this is uh This is some this this sounds like fan fiction right here This oh, this is one of those teen dramas that someone writes and puts on telly Yeah, it's just called young jesus or something like that the real jesus goes to hollywood jesus the baby jesus Happy jesus Why can't i have double in this it would make the job a lot easier game just saying Oh, it's cool in here They don't let me touch it because they know that it would be way easier But the thing is none of these are worse than the stuff jesus actually does Every time i introduced a friend to 2000 ad. They said oh, this looks like 40k. How much did warhammer rip off 2000 ad? I have no idea what 2008 even is typically Is it a let's see is it a film? I think it's a film. It's an action thriller made in in 2000 uh The death of his brother leads a young man Aaron quack to the discovery of a clandestine scheme to wreak havoc throughout asia with a y2k computer It's a south korean film. Does it star anyone we know? Uh Phyllis quack daniel wu erin quack rey lee I don't Yeah, it's it's not rated well on rotten tomatoes. It's got a um It's got a It's not even got it doesn't even have a tomato meter for critics. It's a 32 percent from audiences. So it's probably great Someone said I think that's the wrong 2080. I think you might be right. I think that's good Yeah, I don't know what they're referring to um uh 2000 ad Comic Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know what you're referring to I am not sure. Maybe the comics are what it's referring to 2080s u k magazine featuring judge dredg gotch. That was it Judge freed universe. All right rags. What's your favorite trek movie if you've seen and which would you show mohler first? Here's the second half to that but it's for fringy Um, I haven't I'm not familiar enough with the trek movies Honestly to make a recommendation. I would have to see them over again, but I don't think they're From what I remember, they're not very At least a lot of the later stuff I think some of the early ones were good the t and g or sorry. I think a lot of the Right a lot, but some of the og Uh star trek movies were pretty good, but I don't think con is like the best one typically I tend to him not I think that's the second one I think I know my dad likes undiscovered country a bunch. I hear star trek the motion picture is pretty good But I cannot say for certain off of memory. It's been a long time since I've seen them I'd be willing to rewatch them though. There's probably some interesting stuff Has it been a long time in a galaxy far far away? It has been a long time ago, but it's been in this galaxy. It's been a galaxy very very close It's like I'm gonna have to play this one a couple of times. I'm not sure how to be better at this all of these Vehicles, you know, which one's the oh pod racing Well, this could be pretty good slower and it's got better handling All right, we'll use this one next time Um, the other half was fringy. Hello. I have no more to ask and I've paid out for 150 characters Wait see that again. Well, it was directed at fringy. What do you think about that? Oh, I still want to know what your favorite though. I will I will repeat this very important message for both of you. Um Fringy. Hello. I have no more to ask. I paid for 150 characters All right, well, hi Thank you. All right back to more size the canteen Try this again Fringy thoughts on milo enopolis Um I don't know what he's doing now. I heard that he was also in the gay conversion clinic That was the that was the most recent thing I've heard about him.    It's the Problem they've got to get over now Now will we ever get robocop versus the terminator?  Why not? Well, I'll tell you why not. I mean who's making it It'll be it'll be terrible I guess if it would be terrible no matter what we can just give it a little college try But I mean, I'm still in it Paul W. S. Anderson. Oh, he's making them on board. Yeah on board 100 Let's do an alice too But um, I would be that you know, they kill it. I don't think you do that. So Maybe don't bring her in into his Kind of sift infiltrate to just goes down really easily every threatening is it Okay, so far try and make some money Um, hey ragas this one is for you. We here in chat may give you a hard time, but we still love you Maybe get a himbo sandwich or something I'll keep that in mind. I would mind that that sounds great. That sounds great. That sounds great.  I'm killing the nun the other two you might Why's that? Because they're both younger you might be able to convince them out of their craziness the nun is like Much more. Um, she's a super demon from like hell the other two are like case related. I think Oh, okay. I don't know. I feel like I just have more chance with the other two in terms of convincing them not to eat me But um when it comes to marrying one of those two There's no real I don't see how you choose because they're both coming for your flash Grudge girl.  I don't know enough about You know, they made it the ring versus the grudge In japan or 20 2016 I have to see them battle It might be a total parody that would that would surprise me if it was Is this trick to stuff like this? I just have to keep shooting the amount of water that no even collecting things I vaguely collected them. I'm not doing this fast enough 2080 is a uk magazine featuring judge dreads. Oh, yeah Okay, uh, your rags. What's your max rank in mordhow 1v1 ranked if that's not applicable Have you played in high level mordhow competition or competitive? I guess no. No, I just I just play pubs essentially I just play funsies, but I'm quite good I played it enough, but I don't do the competitive scene for that. I don't do any game competitively Not even I mean I play in it with a competitive mindset. I don't do any of them Well, I can't I mean I don't Build it's the key to this Hmm Our destroyer looks like pretty funny I guess definitely not fast enough. Oh, is that millennium shopping is probably the best one If anyone has any advice on completing these challenges, this one in particular is giving me a bit of a This is tough Just a second here Also thoughts on chivalry too. We actually had that question before none of us have played it Mola doesn't know 2,080 magazine confirmed not British google search will show you the influence of 2,080 on 40k Oh, that's that's fair enough. Yeah, I just know Apparently not nobody on this Build podcast has eyes But where is the bomb in this level I'm supposed to use on that tower is it just a bait I consider that almost unacceptable Good Yeah, I'll go back in time sometimes, you know Mando so tizmy in penetrable armor boba's rocket knee grogu's appetite for any creature phoenix blaster dodging imperial tactics Architects for an engineering. It was bad. Happy new year y'all Yes It was quite bad Um I'm wondering this since internet janitor last of us to debate when does Reasonable inference becomes straight-up fan fiction Uh, there's not like this perfect sense of the idea of exactly where the line is you're gonna have to depend on references and then just prior sort of examples in terms of What could be expected? But then the problem comes in of what should be shown Um, it's never gonna be the easiest thing um But we do the best we can between a lot of like like everybody I mean in terms of um Stories a lot of inference has to happen Just the nature of they're not going to show you absolutely every single thing that allows it to make sense But they give you enough You do understand how it's possible like, you know an ex-army guy on your team and he brings guns to the uh Uh The mission and someone is like well, this is a plot hole how to get the guns And then someone's like well, you've ex-army guy's gonna know how to get guns You know, yeah, but I need to see how he got them because I think it may have been difficult And a first I think a good example. This is actually winter soldier, right the um And they were doing the whole uh, oh we need to get falcons wings. It's like you believe that Uh Black widow and Steve Rogers can break into The wherever it was And steal those wings and I'm like probably yeah like With what I know about them and the technology they have and it's like what about when they're in the scenario They are in that film at that point like oh probably not Um, and you just have to assess like resources and stuff same for Bruce Wayne and uh Batman And then it's like well, what if Sam has a friend That has all the resources necessary to steal those wings or he has a best friend who works there and it gets it to him easily Well, they still have someone they can trust that they don't mention it all in the film It gets it for me. It's like and all of these things Like third party to what we know And um that little breach that like line crossed is really tough to explain Exactly where it lies Hello Hey Wonder Woman's Weakness is Ares mustache. I mean it's quite a powerful mustache. I'll do that Luke and mando made me go wow dude pride binary sun pride binary sun Perhaps the sniper had a negligent discharge and a civi just happened to be standing Oh, we're talking about in Wonder Woman. I think when we said the remember the sniper that shot at a civilian instead of any of the active soldiers Yeah Maybe he just had a discharge and the ceiling happened to be in the way. Yeah, maybe So unfortunate Um, did you read my second chat about contractions? Let me have a luke see I might have missed it. Uh, Neeta's on vacation. I got that one The hides of March some authors where they Some authors say don't use contractions when writing books, especially if you're an amateur. So thoughts on that mindset I disagree with them. I think contractions are totally fine I don't want to keep seeing cannot do not must not Do they mean in context of a narrator? What do they mean just entirely because like people say these words people?  They're a part of the english language All right, there's your answer. I I think they're fine too. Wait in Yeah, oh, I was So, uh, do it does like a Like an out of universe narrator using them Is that what they're? Well, why would that be a problem though? Yeah, I'm that's what I'm asking. I'm wondering if that's like Okay, well, let's let's let's do a modify if it's a first person perspective. That's a person who's saying Who's basically relaying to them your life? Am I to expect the first person narrator who's meant to be a normal person to say cannot should not would not instead of Can't shouldn't and wouldn't Because that's a bit ridiculous Um, I think for me, it's just fundamentally. They're a part of the english language I don't know why it would be illegitimate to to not have them be part of writing Yeah, um Seem to be That just seems like a latest line.  And it's like if you define that any out of universe voice in text or audio form Shouldn't use contractions. I'd be like, I just want to hear why what's the reason in there There is gonna be no reason that I would accept I think Because they're part of the language so And if they're part of the language, then I don't see what the issue would be If the narrator says gonna or something like that, then I think I would agree with that That's cuz gonna is kind of not even a real word. Even then wouldn't it depend on the context of the narrator? Yeah But if it was a third person like omniscient narrator, that would be a little bizarre But if it was like a first person perspective, it could work I'm so glad I fell asleep during Wonder Woman. Oh Well the film doesn't appreciate that, you know The drink is not empty But I'll mute that's okay Uh Wonder Woman's not just wearing boob armor here armor has a skirt peak sexism.  We're doing it. We're doing the opposite.  That's the that's the lesson Just saying the u.s. Military is looking into form-fitting body armor for female soldiers for a reason. Oh Assuming the boob armor has come up at this point in that stream So I don't have breasts of my own I imagine if I had a big old Set of mommy milkers, right to big old titties I would want what i'm wearing to accommodate them because they are mass and I don't want them all smooshed all the time I would probably I would probably appreciate being able to give them a little bit of space to be there. You don't think that's sexist um If as a woman it gives me more things because i'm a woman then maybe it's not so bad They refuse to accept I am outraged i'm going to sue you Okay, oh Oh darn the best lawyers in the country All about that sexism Collecting studs old dash. I don't even know how this goes. Well The other ones I had an idea of how to get better, but I don't know how to get better at this one Just finished soma I have to say I'm not usually a fan of horror games with a story made up for this one Soma just skyrocketed to the top five list play it ringy and chat Oh, no Good shout person Uh Anita's a money positive feminist Oh, they call themselves noise Um, they got John McAfee That's what I've heard from many people I assume That uh, this is going to be a real controversial subject for at least a week Our news goes these days You get to look at women. Why are you complaining? Perhaps there's more to life than simply look No, that was a throwback in her You have to look at women Best argument in favor of tlj Braggs, why don't you make videos on games anymore your vids on full out four days And seven days and immersion and realism were really good videos Daisy Uh, although I they probably didn't capitalize that in a way that would lead you to believe that but Yeah, I um, I will I actually will especially As I play games and I have my thoughts on them. I I will Make videos on they'll probably on dog bites because they'll just be me talking about a video game And it won't be that very scripted or real really well edited I'll just kind of talk about them and discuss them though There will be times when I want to have a very big Video that I want to discuss a video game with that will be on my main channel But for But for a lot of stuff, it'll just be me chatting about it However, I yeah, I do have a video. It's basically done. It's basically done I'll probably just tinker a little bit further with it, but it's practically done I've actually already started on a second one But tomorrow morning at seven in fact in 10 hours I'm going to be leaving for vacation for about 10 days and then after that I'll get those Prepped and ready then post it. It'll be great. It'll be great The things the universe and the universe will be as it should be all will be right for the world Yay Gotta be great All right, I did better this time than I usually do so apparently we're getting better at this That's the important part. I got the million stars with I was just like half a minute over Um, also they said your videos on fallout for days and seven days. They have it with an s as well I guess they meant in seven days easy. Yeah, it's daisy in seven days to die. Yes uh Right you don't understand the bullet was traveling at orbital speed for sea level so it not dropping makes perfect sense Oh my god The more you know, I was playing daisy not too long ago. I can't I started playing there There was an update and so I played it for a while um And it that game still makes me like exhilarated to play it is That game is like it's zero or a hundred and it it's that it's like a quentin tarantino kind of thing Where you can just get this incredible sense of dread as to what might happen um It and it can be so unceremonious and things that happen. I I was sneaking around I actually saved it as a clip, but I was sneaking around. It was sort of it was neared pretty darn um dark it was shortly after nightfall so um I was kind of slinking around and I I was outside of a town and I had a I have a fairly well geared character And I was just running around the woods Uh, it was kind of cold. I wanted to keep on the move with some stuff and there was this little little cabin And some like a ski lodge sort of place that was sort of set up outside of the city up on the hill in the woods And I went there to I went towards it to see if there might be stuff in there But I was being cautious and slinking around and sure enough there was a guy who was there and they had their light on and It was just you you have these encounters and it's it's so Like it's dime a dozen in other games, but in this game It still makes my heart race when you just happen to come across another player Or when you know, there's someone around you or when you think there might be someone around you Like if you're just walking through a town and you see a dead player on the ground And you're like, oh, fuck.  There's there's a lot that I really really love about that game Um, I had an argument with a guy who said all are subjective because different culture and times have different standards for good thoughts Told me if I like something I think it's good brought up the room didn't reply um So that's the reason why we love appealing to cause and effect doesn't matter where you're from in this universe cause and effect applies to you It'd be dinosaur from venus You still are aware of cause and effect um Is what you're talking I think that would be relevant when you say I don't know like Dom's are good if they have western values or something just strictly and someone else is like well I don't even know what western values were so how would I be able to judge anything of this? Someone like that and be like, hmm How does someone and it's like you have to go deeper. What is more intrinsic? How is it weird?  So season one's real good season two and three are great and season four is like Some good stuff in there and season five is real great and then season six is the community that is um The office us. I think the first season is the one with a kind of try and Try and do the british one They just repeat everything over if you've seen the british version and it's it just doesn't quite feel right But then they sort of start doing their own shit. Oh, there it is. Was I supposed to be using this the whole time? It's seeming embarrassing if this is like the key to it um Oh, that wasn't a lot Probably not. Well, it's probably worth doing but it's not the key to everything. Anyway, uh I was really I only watched the office us like relatively recently for the first time I think like a year ago and uh, I liked it a whole bunch.  I know this one and this one and this one Memes that's how you can tell something's good Well, I guess the prequels is there's a lot of exceptions actually Why stay alive long enough to actually use these missiles? Let's find out Like me and the missiles disappear as well.  I got this too Hmm Well, let's find out how much it's worth What have I been missing out? Happy new year massifs ever heard of the local 58. It's a cool psych Psych horror show on youtube good if you want to spook yourself for a few days The local 58 Never heard of it I've never heard of that. No I'm gonna assume free hasn't either No, I haven't Now you keep missing my jeepers creepers super chats. I sent it earlier in the stream and you never read it out Oh, and you see and you see I just saw the one we said you never read my super jeepers creepers super chat. All right. Well Unfortunate that I would have read the ones that weren't the question Also, I think you would have had enough room in that one We told me to read it to put whatever the question was in there. I'm on to you Let's see Thoughts on the new jeepers creepers movie coming out this fall jeepers creepers reborn thoughts on all three It's a continuation from the second. I'm so hyped because it's been an 18 year wait for it So I've seen the first two um Well, I think I have this was the second one all about a bus I remember there being a bus um That's the case and yeah, I can't remember that But uh jeepers creepers was never that impressive to me But I mean I'm I'm happy for jeepers creepers fans to finally be getting the jeepers creepers content, you know Hope it's good. Hope it's not poopy You guys ever see any jeepers creepers at all? I haven't Nope I've heard of it though premise is like a monster thing that Um to stay alive.  Oh, yeah for sure get rid of me um I that's strange um So there's three there's a trilogy Yeah And just in longs in the first one and I think he like gets an attraction for a particular body part from a person Then like hunts them until he can kill them and then take it I think that's the whole point of jeepers creepers Does he like anything in particular about some body parts like ah that left that toe of you Well, you really like just in longs eyes I don't know if it were something special about just in longs eyes. Yeah Oh, they were neat Interesting, you know this mission would be a lot easier if I were invincible just saying I did talk about consistency as a standard for good in that argument But he said other times and cultures wouldn't necessarily value that Well, if the point of it is it doesn't rely on other people Okaying it then it wouldn't matter if theoretically everybody didn't okay it Like um, but who's gonna be madder that it makes less sense At some you never hear it you never hear it that movie made too much sense Yeah, I never ever have ever heard that once the best version of that argument in a realistic way coming up is the one That Lindsay Alice believes happens but doesn't actually happen where films try to over explain To avoid plot holes, but that's actually just yeah not a thing Pretty rare pretty rare and even that would be an execution issue. Not the actual not an actual issue Yeah, talking about how flimpy the dialogue is or um, how inefficient, you know Conversations are how people aren't explaining things properly when they should be yeah Are they're telling other people things they already know for world building or just expository dialogue?  We ain't gotten there yet. It'd be nice if we could experiment with that world for a bit when you guys think Hmm What a hellish world where people have to like make things make sense. You're like, I don't know. Can we try? I don't know Do what happens? I think it sounds kind of fun Angry Joe just gave the latest episode of Loki a 10 out of 10 I'd be really curious to talk to him about it. I'd just be like What is it that would be what would you be critical of what could it do that you'd be critical of? Yeah, I would be yeah, what could make this bad?  What order would you rank the cornetto trilogy? so first um Hot fives then very very very close to one of the dead and then uh world's end Probably the same for me I do love all three of them though. I think they're great. Yep. Yep uh We're worth mentioning. I think that Uh, world's end gets overheated I think so too by the sounds but it seems like people don't like that film nearly as much Unfortunate, but what are you gonna do? Hmm It's worth even taking this tower down. I'm assuming it isn't how much did I get from it? I think I got 10k.  That was actually very worth it You can find a more elegant way of destroying that tower will be golden Um, also if each of you has the opportunity to add something to the flag of wales, what could it be and why? I don't know if I'd add anything. It's pretty cool flag on the front Yeah Maybe give the dragon a gun Just to make sure you understand he's serious But pop the safety on don't want to try and imply he's reckless Anything you would add rags the um That's the dragon or the griffin. Sorry Oh, it's definitely a dragon Oh, oh, okay. I got you. I was thinking of something else But what would I do to it? Um I might change the colors um Green white and red They're fine, but I I think I might change the colors to Hmm I'm not sure I have to think about it. That's probably what I changed because I like its simplicity It's just a bi-colored background with a A bold, you know dragon profile on it. I like the simplicity of it I yeah, I wouldn't do much other than maybe just change the um Change colors a bit the only preference for a color of a dragon. I guess it was only one color I might May it might be red or orange I go with an orange color maybe Yeah, I I'm thinking Maybe an orange You said um, but I red or orange at first the Meaning that it is right now. Yeah, that's Yeah, I'm just thinking. Yeah, because I might because I might keep it red. Uh-huh or I'll swap it to orange But it's yeah, I like the dragon part. I I'm thinking Maybe white and blue With well, I don't know. That's the thing. Um, yeah, I might change the pattern of the background a little bit to where The dragon so three color background Arranged horizontally and the dragon only takes up the space of the middle stripe So it's very similar We just add another color and then the top and bottom stripes could be a color And then you can have the middle stripe be a color that contrasts well with the color of the dragon But really just I wouldn't change it too much I like it. I it's I think it's a powerful effective and incredible flag Also like the flag, I think it's a big old meat boy It's impressive Come on. Did I do it? Was that in the time? Please make it so I don't have to do this mission again Winner that probably means I did it Oh With four seconds three seconds to well three and a half seconds to spare Uh since the Jeepers creepers was brought up. I want to remind people that the director for the Jeepers creepers movie is a Oh, uh, it's a pedo apparently who sent us to three years but left in 15 months. Damn Who we talking about the new Jeepers creepers movie or the old one and I don't I don't know who ever made it I guess that sucks uh I doodled eFap comic and now wondering what would be the most appropriate way to send it Without bothering you um Well, uh, just do if you send it on twitter right now and you have me and fringy one of us will definitely catch it Mm-hmm that all the gold bricks for episode four it is we did it Now how many midgets do you think each of you could take in a fist fight before being overwhelmed? probably In a fist fight I almost feel like if it has to be a fist fight punching downwards that there might be Well, I was thinking you pick one up by the lag and start swinging them around at the others Yeah, that that's definitely something that you could do. Um I I guess if it could be just a brawl in general, that's a good idea, but If it has to fist fight. Yeah, I feel like it will leave. Oh, I think the length of the arms is a big thing though But you only have two you got the really long arms to punch them But you only got two arms. That's a thing Yeah Well, again, the idea was like how many would make it to where it's really hard Um, and if you only have two arms, that's a fact, you know, you got to consider I really don't know. I I feel like I could take on a few but I just I don't know how quickly and in what manner they may overwhelm me You know, it is complex to know exactly whether or not I will be fully defeated um Probably probably surviving even five. Oh, I don't even know. What if like, what if they're resilient little bastards, you know Yeah, I'm gonna hit them down. They keep getting back up and then some of them grab your legs and distract you and you know It's tough to know the answer to that honestly, I'm not sure Some people say more the fucks like hey look answering the question honestly trying to get an answer here.  I mean Get him out So it's just gonna have to flail because that's something you can try and kind of do with just with with midget fingers, right? I'm gonna take get them fingers in there and then just nails and Those eyes are going out And then at that point if you've dealt damage that they're bleeding out of the eyes The bear is only it's on a timer at that point, right? Hmm, I don't know. You know, I'm just trying to think of think outside the box here. Well, maybe that's in the box. I don't know The important thing is we tried to simulate this Yeah, I feel yeah, I'm thinking a bear is just so strong and it's got the claws and the reach But what if we're dealing with like a hundred midgets here and there's piling onto it See here's the thing. I just The I don't know if they would be able to a bear is not slow A bear is tall And they're strong. I don't know if you could I don't know if a hundred midgets could organize themselves in a way Where logistically they could all pile on a bear and let's say that happens, right? Now what the bear is just kind of gnash its teeth and claw away at the midgets until they just fall off of him That's kind of what I was thinking And that's why I was thinking go for the eyes because then the bear is just eventually it'll die from Some else Maybe unless the bear just starts wildly flailing around with its claws But it's just one of those things where you wonder what's what's the move? What can a midget do to actually What's the kill move that the midgets have if they even have one? I think that's the point of the question, right? It's like how many would it take to really And you just like you have to figure out what damage is they dealing per midget and then you times that until you reach Like you know bare death, but I just don't know what that damage is Yeah, like do we have a um like like a sheer blunt trauma in terms of Like all the midgets punching him or would that would just would that just be like a massage? Hmm It's a tough question. I really am not it is a tough question. It's wonderful. The age is definitely Perhaps better men will one day answer it What if they had little knives? Well, see I feel like that betrays the the spirit of the question Like if we give them a weapon then of course we're gonna get answers pretty quick in terms of You know like midges with knives I think we're looking at an even if if they all spawn in an arena and they all have the courage to Just bum rush the bear I feel like at least 10 you'd need for that What do you guys think about the knives one? If they had knives that's a huge force multiplier for the midgets that is insanely that is a huge if I take How big are the oh, yeah I mean Yeah, the the size of the knife is a big thing That's huge that given that um, yeah pocket knives I mean if it's not like kitchen knives Like that's a that changes things entirely like the bear might be fucked In fact, the bear probably would be fucked if the midgets had like big knives We'll see I think that it's game over the second you give them knives for the bear depending on the number Like it's always they're always gonna win as long as we keep pushing the number up But what is that number do you guys think? And if we can go we have a knife one good stab in This thing if a bear is tough, but you stab it in the right place with a big knife in Ooh, it could be going down. It's if it's in the neck or if it hits a big vein and it bleeds too much. Um Uh I don't know. Um I'm thinking that if you have if if you have some quality midgets Then It might not be that many Especially if they come at it from different angles if you have if you just have two midgets But they come at it at either side I think the bear might be in some serious trouble. Just two I yeah, that's I'm not saying you're wrong. I find that interesting. Yeah I think that being surrounded is a huge problem If you are a fleshy bear and you don't have any armor And One stab can be it I picked your bears of the kind of so what is it does it count if all the midgets are dead But the bear is also dead If all of the midgets are dead, it's a draw, but if one prevails Yeah, in that case, I would only modify mine that one of them stays back So that we can guarantee the win I feel like any midgets that get involved directly they might take one swipe and be done for like I don't know.  It's going to like maul you that's a process Which is one of the reasons why maulings are so terrible. It's not one thing It's going to scratch and it's going to claw and it's going to it ain't going to be a clean quick death Yeah, getting mauled by an animal is a horrible way to watch the revenant, all right, and then you understand a valiant a valiant brave midget even if it's getting Mauled by a bear. I wonder if that's a modifier stabbing a courage of the midgets Oh, yeah, that's like that's what I was saying that when I stress the two midgets, right If they were high quality midgets who were brave and had a plan and they were good at stabbing Maybe to approaching it from opposite ends The bear might not know how to handle that because the midgets they're there midgets are just as smart as you and I May be smarter. Who knows? I don't know So they use tactics and they wait for that opportunity to get that stab in And you know and you stab fast. It's not just one stab You got that little arm and that knife and you're just going to town on that bear.  It's like a shanky Yeah, as long as the one midget gets in there like be gg for the bear Yeah, that's yeah knives are It's one of my big pet peeves about games It it seems to be extremely prevalent in video games that knives are slashing weapons No Stabby they are They're knives are very very good At if you're trying to kill a person stabbing repeatedly very quickly over and over Bam bam bam bam bam stab stab stab stab stab stab stab very deadly very deadly so So, uh, we can agree between the three of us the 10 midgets with knives versus the bear is an automatic win for the midgets Would you say I think the midgets will win if it's 10v1 if they have knives But I think here's the thing. I don't think if you had a hundred midgets who had no weapons at all That they would be able to take on a bear. I just don't think they have a yeah I just I don't see how midgets could kill the bear I don't see how it would be possible. How does the midget actually how do they what's their plan for killing the bear? Not just inconveniences pretty vicious, but like You I think you said earlier that you wouldn't expect them to be able to Like what do you think the likelihood of a midget? After many tries being able to dig out the eyes of the bear while all the midgets are all over the place, you know Um, there's probably pretty low. I don't we don't need to talk about that until we decide if that's possible Is that happening? I I don't know an animal's very protective of its eyes Um, of course, and it's very in a bear is pretty high up And it can stand on its hind legs and bear is well like I would presume The bear is gonna go down on its For at some point to do some damage in some way and if a midget takes advantage of that opportunity To try and jump up there and get to the head and then just dig his hands right in the eyes I feel like I might be able to do some and it's a particularly courageous, you know, little guy. He's gonna get he's not gonna give up I feel like it could happen, but again the other problem is like does that necessarily lead to the bear's death and it's like I don't think so.  I feel like that would be annoying You're trying to have a peaceful night of day Humans can't kill anything without tools.  That's not Yeah, that's wrong. Why would you even say that? Yeah, that's that's not right.  He could like a rat or just any small animal I was already thinking about it. I mean or a dog like Think of all the animals that you could strangle Just just think of just strangulation. Think of all the animals that you could just strangle Humans are not weak. I'd say we're pretty big dudes compared to a lot of other things Yeah, we have intelligence that allows us to fight like smart Not necessarily hard, but when you consider the kicks and the punches Um, but yeah, think about the kicks and the punches strangulation um You could yeah, uh a human could Fuck up all kinds of critters. I don't know. We've got a decent enough bite.  You're like, yeah It's like, yeah, I got a foot don't I? Yeah And again, this isn't like weaponry or anything like that.  Yeah, the bear is looking like he's gonna win unless these are given something to really work with It'll be interesting to see in a digital simulation in terms of you've got a really accurate representation To see how these midgets would be able to pull. I mean if they were just straight up, you know Six foot guys I mean like what what do you think? That would do in terms of against the bear Do they need tools? Do they have well if they have no tools? What do you think these? What do I feel like they're still in a lot of trouble there? Like yeah, I think so too, but do you think there's a chance to kill in the bear? I honestly know I think you need I think you need tools for a bear. I think you need a knife I think so Because you will not be strong enough to hurt it just by punching it Yeah, a bear is not going to comply with uh Compliant, you know, this is not the bear is not going to allow you to do it's going to be actively resisting you So sure if the bear was sedated you could just cover up its mouth and nose and kill it easy But this bear is going to be actively resistant. It's probably going to try to get away from you first off Well, it's the idea of um if we had these two on a field and it's like three two one You're both looking at each other go and that's the status.  I just wonder if all of them would die and how many it would take um Man, I'm not sure it's just Uh, I don't know It's tough. It's um Yeah, I think it's just the idea of how much damage can a human being without tools inflict on a bear feels like Really beaten at the bear, but I still don't know how much it's gonna do Mm, especially with you know adrenaline and all that for the bear as well There's a handy rock, you know, but I feel like that's cheating rock Yeah, that's a problem. That's a tool. I think yeah, yeah But if there was a rock I would put more odds on the humans winning at that point Against the bear Yeah, I think if you had a rock that would help a lot. Oh, no, I don't think so. I'm still with the bear Whoa, whoa, whoa, for you. So rock faces. They're all I didn't I didn't say that. Oh, it increases the rods. Yeah Yeah, I think so, but I think the bear is still definitely winning Yeah, because how are you gonna if we have to bash seven if we had Potentially like so the guys just keeps we keep running the simulation with like 50 51 52 and they all have rocks I feel like there's gonna be a number eventually, right? I mean, eventually. Yeah, it's I would say it's not impossible. No, you know, that's attrition at that point How many humans do we wait that would apply to the the midgets as well? I well, I think eventually midgets against all odds would probably be able if you if you'd ran it enough times They would win just because the bear would get exhausted Um, I think they'd get enough hits in You know the odds the more people there are the more chances there are for a hit to connect And so it's just a matter that a certain number of hits that will incapacitate bear when you say it enough hits will connect What are you referring to? Like how many times do you need to strike a bear on its head before like there's just serious blunt force trauma to the brain? Um, is this with the stone without the stone or both with the stone without the stone Oh, man. I feel that bear. I feel like they're gonna have enough energy to hurt everybody else so much That there won't be enough people around to to hurt it when it's tired Well, if we said a million midgets, right? Oh, well, then yeah, I guess at that point the bear would lose. Yeah Just a flood of midgets over it.   He'd be like, I thought she was single. I don't know Oh, god forbid the bear didn't even sleep with anybody. It didn't even do it. The bear was totally innocent. They're coming Nothing's stopping them They've been wronged by this person who Person who wronged them and does not have any obligations to that person anyway But uh, you know Bitch chokes to death on midgets. I mean, I think rags mentioned that that's a possibility. It's a possibility. Um But yeah, I think uh, midgets would have a very hard time of it Yeah, I feel like we can't really do much more for that question. It was very interesting to think about but I just Yeah Hi, best boy raggy. Hello fringle. Hey Moodle that's metal's name. That's not my name and maybe they're just talking about he's sleeping right now He'd appreciate it. Oh, this is watching from afar. Yeah, that's probably true Uh, have a few of me shekels long man. Enjoy the fantastic game. Oh, well, thank you You each get a mythical creature companion or pet. What do you choose? I'd go for a little fairy myself A little companion or pet so they could be A little companion or pet from a fantasy one of the victorious midgets, maybe Um, I think I'd want a griffin Why a grip?  Yeah, I don't know. Uh, yeah I don't know. I don't know what I would want. I Kind of on board with with anything I'm more concerned with its personality and function than what it looks like really I wouldn't make does it grant wishes or is it just something I talk to Which is no problem by the way The griffin could talk that'd be awesome Or a dragon I guess Somebody like or some something that I could If if it was as intelligent as a person or intelligent enough Like a like a buddy like just a buddy that would hang around with you and stuff. Um, I don't know That's tough.  It's like I would buy the dog Yeah, like a really intelligent dog that you could talk to and stuff That'd be pretty nice. Actually, that'd be pretty great. But you have one of those Well, you know, um, this one is like my my one that follows me around everywhere, I guess and gives me advice Okay, all grants wishes. Like I said, I wasn't sure about that That could be cool. Yeah a dog bit grants wishes.  Especially if everyone could just make any wish they wanted and it started to come true The world wouldn't last a second. There's enough psychopaths out there Oh, yeah How would you guys rate unforgiven 10 imo looked on imdb? Let's just say the reviews were fascinating So it's my favorite western and I think it's excellent. Not sure I'd give it a 10 Definitely watch it to be sure that it's fucking good I chances are if you ask us if something's a 10 we'll probably say no just as a default Because that's a very prestigious kind of rating that we would want to get a lot of consideration and thought for Um, I love unforgiven. It's a great movie I would highly recommend everyone check out unforgiven But I don't I I I need to see it not gonna go with the 10 off the top of my head Yeah, um What if we took an emu and replaced its legs with the isle of man legs? Like three legs and one of them is like up in it while the other two are down. I don't know I feel like it would have to the anatomy that is going to be weird You know if that's what that's what it wants And hello there mulberry fringled ingledo and raggle daggle Hello So they want me to say this the funny part is I don't know if that is welsh or garbage Uh, I'll post that for you. They said pronounce that Good you So presumably I'd say is good you um, but I don't know if that's what it is because I've not seen the word before but I think that's how you pronounce it Um Who wouldn't have fight fringy or an african elephant?  Yeah But if we're talking just fringy There's default self against the african elephant. I mean, yeah I'm not sure what strategy you'd employ to try and defeat it. It's gonna be tough Yeah, it's gonna be super tough I think I was supposed to be destroying these things in a different you can go back Oh, yeah, they still respawn. Okay, we're good.     Absolutely. I think yeah without a doubt Fights like that are awkward where it's like nathan drake versus tomb raider You're like, I mean whoever gets the drop on the other one first, I guess If they got even chances that I feel like nathan drake's gonna win Why? Because they're both really good at guns and they're both climbing except one is physically stronger. So If they evenly match They've both got their guns, right Well, then I guess all I'd say is that they're both just gonna kill each other Equally then because they're both as skilled as each other at shooting and climbing and jumping. Yeah, that's why I brought it up I was like those kinds of questions. I can't really do much with them Yeah, yeah I think I told you guys before but it was like that it was a big Thing with the forum I used to visit where they were like putting characters against each other and um uh etzio beat out um alex morsa Not a thing As much as people will like uh etzio. It's not happening I even remember thinking when they put alex morsa in it. I was like, there's no point.  I was just like again, he wipes out all of the normies Isn't Lara way more athletic though I do like Nathan drake kills so many people in uncharted and survives so many crazy things Like I don't know how we can honestly say that he ain't winning that if it got to like a one-on-one confrontation I have no stake in this but He's also got a thousand games too, which he survives crazy shit Well, I guess it depends on what one we're going by are we going by the most recent one or because if we're going by Like the older ones then yeah, Lara probably would win But if we're going by the newer ones, I feel like Nathan drake's gonna win Um Like Lara kills dinosaurs Yeah, exactly if we're going by the old ones then she probably does win But if we're talking like the actual I would imagine people Well, she kills dinosaurs because she has guns Yeah, well, I imagine Nathan drake kills people because then again, look at all the and he has guns too So but look at all the supernatural threats that Nate puts down in um in in like one and two He's he's fighting these giant crazy monsters that have been beefed up by an immortality juice and he still kills him I feel like this is weird like judging who would win by who they've killed, you know Uh, yeah, I guess but I'm not sure what else we have, you know Well, that's how they kill them and what they kill them with um So Yeah, like for instance, is it that impressive to kill a dinosaur if you have like modern firearms like I mean that in and of itself know It's it's how like what's the arena that we're using um You know, what kind of fire firepower do you have access to does the dinosaur even have a chance? Um that that that that kind of thing Because like if you had to fist fight a deer you'd be in trouble, but generally that's not how You know that those fights go down so It's all there's a lot to it a who would win fight is it's it's you know location location location Is it 1v1 do are both the critters aware of each other? um You know a lot that goes into it Yeah, I mean of course in this scenario, I doubt we would want to say like One of them has the jump on the other because I would just be lame wouldn't it that's not fair I guess it's the idea if you had both of them in a Well, I guess if the it's the criteria So if the criteria was one-on-one in an empty field It's like well, who's gonna get to the gun faster would be the criteria uh in that one Versus I don't know we're in a big jungle gym where you can't see each other who would win It's like that gets tougher because they're both really good at climbing stuff Um, yeah, and of course if they all if they both have their weapons And it's just like I guess it's you know at that point it's really hard to tell But if neither of them have their weapons then surely like Nate wins I wouldn't be so sure of that just because of the ingenuity part of killing someone If they have well, Nate isn't stupid um Like he's a pretty smart guy Just like Laura if the idea literally comes down to strength, then he'll win I suppose but um You know dropping them in the middle of a jungle for example with no guns I wouldn't say like we automatically say Nate wins. I'd be like, well, I don't know um The problem is that we've seen that Nate is able to traverse these environments pretty well We know that he has So there's that as a point of reference. It's like well, then isn't it basically even both of them are good at traversing these environments? So I guess that's a crafting weaponry Um crafting weaponry. Yeah, Laura if we're going by the new ones would have an advantage if that's possible to like craft Weapons bow and arrow something like that, then she'd probably have an advantage there um Yes, um In fact, yeah, and we should run um, we should run one of these someday We should get chat to decide on all of the Protagonists including like mario and stuff and then we jumble all the names up into a big tournament And then we bring everyone on to like discuss who's going to win what be really fucking stupid, but kind of fun I think the only way to decide it in any way close to it wouldn't be fair But it would be the best we could do is um like a panel vote and then if it's a tie then chat vote I guess Or the chat vote in the panel of the chat votes anyway The only problem with chat vote. I feel is that it can be populist Sometimes I feel like there is bias is whichever one you enjoy more is the one you're more like I probably have a bias in favor of Uncharted That sounds fun. Not gonna lie. I mean, yeah, you know, you could be fun I mean the problem is I think that if we involved there would be certain people that we involve in the list We'd be like, well, it's kind of they win pretty much. Yeah, depending on what the IP is Imagine we ended up with something like bowser versus donkey kong Well, that could be interesting. I feel like um Ah man, that would be that would be super interesting actually who would win between bowser and donkey kong We'd have to set up the rules ahead of time as well Like are they allowed the sort of basic set of weaponry that they're typically seen with or no weaponry at all And is it an arena that suits them or is an arena in general that they all have to fight?  He doesn't move quite as well Whereas donkey kong super quick can climb stuff Was he bowser can breathe fire and he has a pretty strong armor. That's that's the that's the big part Yeah, so bowser has horns he has claws He has sharp teeth and he has a bunch of spikes on his shell And he could use the shell for defense as well. That's true Um, I think it would be really tough for donkey kong, but I don't want to rule him out Yeah, I feel like yeah one v one I think donkey I I'm siding with bowser, but I can definitely be swayed.  I know that I don't I feel as I was the god thrown into a black hole and he lived Yeah, this is the problem when you go with references we like all of these creatures are godlike in some way Maybe maybe we'll do that someday You know what chat you're gonna have to bug us about it and then we'll we'll maybe do it We'll need to have people actually want to see it.   Like he doesn't have a drill how different is he how you know, you're not really fighting big daddy If he doesn't have a drill. Yeah, and at that point is he just disqualifies. He's just too powerful I don't know. Yeah We'd have to ask chat what they think about that Because like would it be a little bit uneventful if we involve someone like that? And you're just waiting for them to win because everyone else's fights are kind of inconsequential But then of course That's gonna happen Like there's gonna be people that on the surface are stronger like if we involve Mario, but then we also involve Snake I wonder how we would argue that fight goes Solid snake.  Well, this is the thing. I wonder if we would have to saw this all ahead of time But do they get to have guns Um, and if they or do they get to have a fair balance of items scattered around the environment that would be useful to them Like you just have them in a big biome and then to give it so there's like intelligence as an actual Like important aspect of the battle Yeah, I think I like the idea of some kind of terrain And yeah, so you'd have to carry the terrain for what's fair in any battle. Absolutely Because if it's an open arena anybody who has range wins and I don't like that Yeah, range is going to be a huge dominant factor Agile characters are going to be you know, it's some serious trouble as well um Gonna be have arenas or if we have shipping arenas that might be interesting So like for the first hour of the battle It's like this and then it starts to shift into something else that might be beneficial to one or the other They have to have three battles one on What you picture? Oh, yeah.  Maybe yeah, it was real That's that's the way to do it because it gives them a fair shit It it increases like the ways that we can test what they do so it's best of three And presumably we can revive each of these people and they die But they're the vital chamber bring them back to life Oh, well, yeah, because I was going to say this stuff like that. We just have to rule out. It's not fair. I think We talked about apple of eden was something to do with assassin's creed that people argue. That's why he wins every fight Um, yeah, but I would say that we have to do etio without the apple because the apple is a mind control device It's not fair Well, I was going to say if someone said like let's do an mcu one if it's not fair and then they were like well black Black widow versus galactus. You'd be like, okay I don't know I'm saying it's an unfair advantage in the sense that it's something that is beyond etio is like sort of uh Like you happen to just find it and so oh wait Are you saying in the same way that it would be unfair if donky kong had an invincibility star? You'd be like, well, that's yeah. Yeah, like I don't I don't want them to have something that is just a huge advantage That's beyond their normal abilities that they have Yeah, I see what you mean because it does seem to be a meaningful difference between what they can have access to In in their ip's versus what they have access to typically like drake with a pistol is is much more reasonable than drake with Fucking I don't know some kind of an rpg Yeah, I mean even that you know some I'm sure if he was in smash He'd have an rpg or something as a move mm-hmm I think you did have a rpg and that's uh all stars battle royale game actually Yeah The ultimate battle of ultimate destiny. Yeah um It's like the ewoks taking on a walker Well that went real easy didn't it So that's the what's the one of the problems with the turn of the jedi is that I don't believe that like I can't It's just Like it doesn't it defies all logic that that can be a thing that happens um It's just toilet jedi How many midgets would it take to defeat the gimpy gimpy people for me? um Oh, well the problem is that you like you can't you can't fight them You need a flamethrower. Um, otherwise you you're out of luck And even then that might put the stuff in the air and then you breathe it and now put you in the bad spot too So I would say you need to just walk away from from the gimpy if you find it Molar I have to ask why are you using a y-wing most people don't know what a y-wing is Also, you should consider the question of whether the midgets and the bear were trained previously to fight with each other I assume that there's I mean, would you even need the bear to be trained to fight them? I feel like he's Got it I don't know what they would be trained to do the midgets. Maybe that's just knowledge lack.   Yeah Hey, Mola, you should watch prepare to try and RKG three lads hanging out playing souls games for the very first time on youtube one of the lads is welsh And I think you'd love them. Hi rags Hi I mean, yeah, that sounds neat.  Well, yeah I appreciate it, but I don't think we're gonna allow the the midges to have that in the battle just At that point the bear should have a big scary robot bear something Humans are natural grapplers. We aren't really meant for striking more so for grappling Yeah, grappling is gonna be a big thing especially when it comes to Like choking and strangling Um, if you're gonna do anything else Then tools man. It's all about them tools There are varying levels of good. Can we agree? So if something like Loki isn't good as say breaking bag Breaking bad. Why is it automatically terrible? I feel like you might be new We usually go by a 0 to 10 sort of system those 0 and 10 are rarely ever achieved Um And they each correspond with like just how coherent the storyline is in terms of cause and effect Loki is staggering in terms of how much it breaches cause and effect breaking bad As some flume synthisms here and there Um, but I overall much more to celebrate in terms of how much it adheres to a cause and effect I would argue as well as complexity um and so Really, Loki is bad from our scale whether or not breaking bad even exists Um, but breaking bad is good in terms of just providing an example of something that isn't pure cringe, you know Hopefully that helps you out I saw someone in chat saying that Loki is is still some of the best content we've had in the mcu um Oh, come on. Please stop Well If they're enjoying yet, yeah Well, if they're enjoying it, that's great for them, but yeah Christ Soundtrack is neat Uh, the soundtrack is fantastic. If I'm to be honest, it's really really cool The um The theme is really cool. I like the the music that plays when they go to the alabama place Borla Borla Nathan Nathan never uses melee weapons while Lara fights with a pickaxe and knives I feel like Lara would win at melee unless they have the same loadout Um, I don't know why it would be fair to give her an axe and knives and him nothing Like and also Nathan does some like Often he'll fight if he fights people who use like the gun itself as a physical, you know blunt force Joel Yeah, but but again, it's not fair if um If if like one of them has because one of them has like a fucking Pickaxe and the other one has nothing like yeah, it's you got to kind of fight uphill Well that point it sounds like we're trying to compensate and I should be like if we engage in any kind of compensation Then it's already over and then like okay Nathan Drake can fight galactus if galactus is the size of a person and doesn't have all of galactus's powers I guess the problem is it's like feels um These are two human beings.  Um What was his name? I can't believe rave. That's right. He he fights rave now No, he wins. I was about to say he loses. It's like, well, no, he doesn't he beats him fair and square um Ah, well, it's a bit unfair because he one of his swords breaks and then he gets past another one Well, he loses it and he gets past it back by Sam, but he beats him um And he does pretty well honestly, um considering that rave apparently fenced like he knows how to fence and Nate still basically beat him all on his own so Well, well Also, I just think it's a matter of like Nate has Through fistic cups can beat like a bunch of people when they gang up on him and he can do really well in that environment So one of the things I'm wondering is at what like do we allow You know, how much of an allowance do we make for video game? logic Where someone can do these kinds of things where it's supposed to be like gameplay mechanics and the presentation of those things is like the way that it's you know Like being able to fist fight a whole bunch of people like that or um Like bullet and bullet damage things of that nature. Is that something that comes into the equation? Where we would say oh, that was some crazy plot armor. Are we now using it as evidence of how strong they are? And I mean potential Assuming they didn't have like i'm fine with saying Like like mandalorian, right? Who would win mando or a guy with an ar-15. It's like, well I kind of was a guy with ar-15 all things considered based on what we've seen mando behave, right?  So you're still up and running You know I to what degree do we take that kind of video game health point logic in a fight like this? Do we say if as if it was realistic? And as like the baseline for everything We wanted how a jedi would defend against an assault rifle That's the thing regular weaponry from our world would do better against jedi than blasters at least from what we see. Yeah Yeah Talk a little bit about game design with with lego shall we so Right here. We got we got four little I like people in chat that are telling me Like what I did wrong. So let's have a look see Well go forward four little buttons here to step on right And then you go two things that can be made to heat up two skeletons that are lodged in the wall And you release them you construct them and then if you stand on the platforms They'll stand on the remaining two and you get your mini kit now you may notice one of them's missing Why is that? Where is this other? Where is this other skeleton?   It's like it's not my fault The same button to construct is throw grenade like what am I supposed to do? I guess switch character to make sure I never risk that it's just like that's lame You just make the skeletons respawn. Why not?  I feel like that's not going to be easy to do Fucking they make it seem like it's really hard to force push away just lasers And I don't know. I don't know which would theoretically be easier. I don't know Anyway, what we'll do is just do the level properly other than that and then we'll redo it Just to get that particular mini kit And then hopefully rush through it Not the worst thing in the world Instead of measuring in baby strength use midgets I don't even I don't even what are we what?  Good job. Mola. It was a little dicey there for a moment If you do a low key if you think you'll have sitch on also fringy. Do you have a favorite australian dish? Oh, wait Um last I heard sitch was just like, okay, you might be right. I don't I don't remember him saying like you are, right? um I don't know that I have a favorite australian dish because I I tend to prefer like Asian food by comparison like chinese Yeah