Welcome to the wiki tree challenge. Hello, I'm Mindy Silva. Welcome to the wiki tree challenge highlights reel. Today I have Anne Johnston from the north of Ireland family history society. I was also hoping to have Donna Bowman who is the challenge captain but she's traveling. Donna is also a project coordinator within the disastrous project and she's involved in the one place study project and the cemeteries project. So welcome Anne. Thank you very much indeed. I'm going to talk a little bit about wiki tree. First for those viewers that don't know who we are for those people our mission is to grow one accurate shared tree that connects us all and is accessible to everyone free forever. It's all about collaboration. There's one profile for a person. If you and I share an ancestor we work on that profile together. It's not that you have your tree and I have my tree it's all one big tree and did I mention it's all free. We just passed the 33 million profile milestone with almost 11 million of those having DNA connections attached to them. What really makes wiki tree work is its community and a cornerstone of the community is our honor code. Anyone can view profiles on wiki tree but to edit more than close family member profiles you have to sign the honor code. It emphasizes sourcing giving credit courtesy understanding accessibility accuracy and respecting privacy. Privacy is another aspect of wiki tree that makes it special even though we're growing a one world tree and we all collaborate only close family members collaborate on modern family profiles.  Collaboration on deep ancestors is between distant cousins who are serious about genealogical research careful about sources and willing to see their research validated or invalidated with DNA. So if you aren't a member yet come and join us it just takes a minute to register as a guest member and you can delete a guest account at any time. Now for this challenge we have partnered with the north of ireland family history center of society and boy did we have a lot of fun with it. They gave us seven names and we had seven days to find everyone we could within seven generations. So seven degrees means seven steps in any direction. On wiki tree we call that count a person cc7. Our starting people were William Miller Boy born in northern ireland and his connections increased 718. Next we had Harry Ferguson his connected 505. We had Seamus Haney his increased 255. John Wilson Kyle we added 302 connections to him. Robert William Moore also known as Gary Moore we added 309. William James Peary we added 865. There was a lot of activity on his branches and then Ruby Florence Murray known as Ruby Lamar we added 366.  Right well we we had a look across the board at what might be regarded as famous people or notables that were kind of born or had very strong connections with northern ireland and we also wanted to get a little bit of diversity so we wanted to kind of get males female from different classes and so on. So we looked we had started off with a list of about 20 people and then we kind of came down to the to the seven that we selected and we thought that they would give a kind of good challenge to the participants. I think probably most of us know that Irish research can definitely be challenging but we also felt that there would be knowing the northern Irish and their Irish in general. They travel all over the world and we knew that that probably at varying degrees from these people there would be relatives that had travelled to the states, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, wherever and would provide a good sources for people that are researching in wherever they may be and that certainly I think proved the case. The the north of Ireland family history society we as the name implies we promote research of northern Irish families and we but also recognising that we support people locally that are researching no matter where they where they're located. We have a research centre just outside of Belfast and we've a really good library there that provides really good probably in many cases more obscure resources that might be that might be available online that allow people to research their family history. We're very much into training and we run a whole series of courses right throughout the year. We also have a strong focus on DNA and we run an overarching project for the north of Ireland but then more recently we've been getting into very local projects and the main ones that we started with were the Balecari DNA project and the Ireland McGee DNA project and both of those we are using Wikitree to record our findings all of the participants in those projects. We put their family histories onto Wikitree and it's an ideal platform to show all of the connections between the various families and therefore help the participants in the analysis of their DNA. We have 10 branches right across the north of Ireland and they will run physical meetings but through COVID they really got into online meetings and so we ended up with a lot of new members right across the world and that has really rejuvenated the society I would say. It's been really great to see the number of participants so at the moment we're kind of all of us are kind of trying to ensure that our members no matter where they may be located can easily participate in the work of the society and so we're having hybrid meetings or online meetings and I think that is working really well. Yeah and I know you and I have had a chance to chat quite a bit since we started working together and you know the activities and the outreach of you and your group are just really impressive and really inspiring and so we love to work with people like you that are just getting out there in the community and you know helping people to realize that this is important you know documenting us and our ancestors and finding out for sure where we all came from. Yes no I think we've got we have as a say of you know a very active membership and it's great to see you know how they can they can work together and it's Ireland it's the north of Ireland it's kind of quite a small place but in many ways that has advantages because there's an element of you know people knowing each other and we find often particularly in our we were on a DNA interest group and what we find is that many of our members are find that they are DNA matches with each other and that's kind of great to see and then they can literally collaborate and to see where the connection is so it really adds to the whole area of analyzing your DNA. Here we have a few of our top people during the Challenge Week. Martin McDowell who was our most valuable participant or MVP. Maureen Ahern of New Zealand was our top bounty hunter and Donna the team captain for this week did just a fantastic job. So yeah I was looking at the beginning numbers and at the beginning we only had 611 people in the CC7 for these starting profiles. At the end we had almost 4000 so we created we added 3400 to the CC7s. 2000 of those were manual one by ones we weren't we made quite a few connections but two-thirds of the profiles that were added in the CC7 were us adding one profile by profile and about 1100 were added for connecting to other profiles. But it takes an entire team to collaborate and come up with outstanding results. We had more than 72 people participate in an incredible show of collaboration. We took a look at all of our starting ancestors. We didn't find a blood relation but we did find some cousin connections. Steven Boyd and Gary Moore were connected within 21 degrees. Next was William Peary to Harry Ferguson which was 22 degrees and finally William is also 24 degrees from John Kyle. We have a lot of fun using the connection finder during the week to see who we're closest to. So this is Donna's connection to Henry George Ferguson. It shows you the path used to reach him with five different connections being by marriage now sometimes that's less sometimes that's more. Here we have another connection. Shamus Haney was a Nobel Prize Laureate poet. He's widely recognized as one of the major poets of the 20th century. Now 16 degrees from him is Jordy Barnett who was an Irish historian, archaeologist, botanist, geologist, folklorist but also a poet. He's best known for his discovery of the Baymore Stone Circles and he developed the theory that they were an ancient lunar observatory. The theory was expressed in his poem The Baymore Stone Circles. While looking at the connections we checked into Wright Reverend Dr. Simon Digby an Irish bishop. Now he was a gentleman of the Bristol family and his father was a Bishop of Dromor. He was a great master of painting in little watercolors. Here are his connections to our starting people. Stephen Boyd at 14 degrees, Jack Kyle and William Peary at 17 degrees, Harry Ferguson at 20 degrees, Gary Moore at 23 degrees, Ruby Lamar at 24 degrees and the furthest out was Shamus Haney at 26. We also looked at Abraham Lincoln and you'll find out why shortly and you know they say his greatest achievement was his ability to energize and mobilize the nation by appealing to its best ideals while acting with malice towards none in the pursuit of a more perfect more just and more enduring nation. No president in American history has ever faced a greater crisis and no president has ever accomplished as much. His closest connection is William Peary at 12 degrees. Well now let's go ahead and take a look at some other interesting finds and connections and we'll start with William Miller known as Stephen Boyd. He of course was an Irish actor who came to the acting stages as an adult. He appeared in about 60 films mostly notably as Missala and Ben Herr which earned him the Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor. Now sometimes we just find interesting people along the way. Here was John Kenneth Tomlinson and he may not have achieved what someone called a notable status but his local newspapers found his family interesting enough. He was born in Wyoming in the United States, the middle of three children born to Herbert Tomlinson of Derby Shire, England and his wife Caroline Kerry-Den. John was born in Rock Springs Wyoming as a boy he was thrown from a horse breaking his collar bow. He later worked as a maintenance foreman in Arabia for the Trans-Arabian Oil Company. He and his wife had three children two of which lived to adulthood. His son Kenneth John or John Kenneth Jr. went into the military and while he traveled extensively he often returned home to visit his parents and this was documented frequently. John Silva or sorry John Sr. had also been in the military handling ordinance. His daughter worked as a hairstylist and their family but really was in the newspapers a lot. So you know and it was interesting to see that there wasn't a whole lot. There was a lot about his son's military career but not as much about the elder John's military career. Now he was honorably discharged just short of his two-year mark with an unstated disability so there was something that occurred before he finished. His only brother Herbert who was also in the army sustained more than one injury and after re-enlisting when World War II was in full swing Herbert received a bronze star for meritorious achievement and then a purple heart for his injuries and service and you know he was in the paratroopers infantry. So really a strong military family but it was fun to see all the clippings and stuff that popped up you know for people going and visiting grandma or you know which ones were seeing the sister and whatnot. And John Thomas and Sr. and Stephen Boyd are six degrees apart and I want to take just a moment to thank Cheryl Hess for working on this profile. She did a beautiful job on it. You know we have some people that like to come in after the fact and build these biographies off of the sources and she just did a really beautiful job on that one. And there's many others of course. Now next we'll go to Harry Ferguson. He was born in County Down Ireland. He became a mechanic and developed a three-point linkage system for the modern day tractor. He was also the first person to build with his brother Joe and fly his own airplane in Ireland. So here we have an adventurous fella in his branches. On the 29th of May 1953 Sir Edmund Percival Hillary and Sherpa Mountaineer Tenzing Norge became the first climbers confirmed to have reached the summit of Mount Everest. Edmund Derek Wright and Murray Ellis arrived at the South Pole later on in their on their Ferguson tractors. That was in 1958. They were the first to do so over land since 1912 and they were the first ones to reach it in motor vehicles. So it was really fun to see the interesting people that pop up when you start this research. Now Edmund Hillary and Harry Ferguson are 19 degrees apart and so that chart shows the path from one to the other. Next we have Seamus Haney who is a Nobel Prize laureate poet. He's widely recognized as one of the major poets of the 20th century. Born the first of nine children his father was a farmer and raised cattle. In 1957 he studied the English language and literature at the Queen's University in Belfast. During his time there he found a copy of Ted Hughes Lupercal which inspired him to write poetry. And this took us to another one sometimes we just find unusual occupations as we delve into the branches. So here was Henry Doherty and he was born in 1839 in county London Derry Ireland. He married Mary Fisher Doherty in 1862. In the 1911 census aged 72 he was a nailer which was a maker of nails and a widower. His son Charles a railway porter married Susanna Haney which was Seamus Haney's granddad. So you know and I don't know if some people get as amused as me and some of the others do about finding occupations and stuff but I had to go look this up and read about it and you know they're talking about how sometimes it would be like three or four of these nail makers these nailers that would get together but a lot of times it was families and so they would make this room they would designate this room or rent a little small place to do this you know where they could have the the foundry there and they could put up to six anvils around it around the hot fire so that they could you know each pound and totally lost my train of thought there oh and you know and so it was a family event they just all gather the kids and everything and gather around here now each one of those nails they'd have to draw it out clip it off it took about 35 hits for a really super nice nail like for a horseshoe and then only about 25 blows to the hammer for a regular nail and you know I mean they'd say these people would just make thousands and thousands of nails though so you can imagine how you know difficult that must have been they've had some strong arms I know they had strong arms and of course this occupation was lost to automated processes or superseded by new interventions but I just found it interesting you know reading about these people we had another person that was a raker and we had a great discussion on it over the weekend and we couldn't decide if you know it meant like a traditional rake or somebody that raked flax or exactly what it was so I didn't get to put them in here but it was a fun discussion talking about the the occupations and so Henry Delory and Seamus Haney are five degrees apart apart and you can see it's just that one connection switches for marriage here we have John Kyle another one of your starting people he was an international rugby player and a surgeon all of his siblings apart from his younger sister Beatrice were talented sports people his sister Betty kept in the Ireland women's hockey team to triple crown success in 1950 his sister Brenda played hockey to the provincial level and his brother Eric played rugby for Ulster and was an Ireland trialist that's quite a quite a sports family there now we often come across spelling variations while researching and it's often hard to tell if the census taker you know uses spelling he as he thought it should be or if maybe there was an accent that was present that caused variances but in the case of Alexander Warren he was a Warren by birth on the records for their first four daughters however the spelling had changed to wearing for the fifth child they wrote wearing and then crusted out and said Warren so we're not sure if the family was trying to change it or if they just finally realized that it was being said wrong all that time I'm not sure and then of course by the last two children they had the correct spelling of Warren again again as did all of the other records so you know one can only speculate why those changes occurred but really interesting to see the changes tracked through the records and Alexander Warren of course was the grandfather of John Kyle so the next starting person we had was Robert William Gary Moore who was a Northern Irish musician over the course of his career he performed a range of music including blues blues rock hard rock heavy metal and jazz fusion he was often described as a virtuoso and has been cited as an influence by many other guitar players in his branches we found John Lowry he was born about 1834 in County Antrim he was the son of Hugh Lowry a mariner like his father John worked as a mariner or a sailor he married Elizabeth Snotty at the age of 25 and they had at least six children all but one being boys Elizabeth's sister Mary also married a mariner who worked as a harbour master for many many years John continued to work as a sailor and was recorded as a sea captain on their daughter Ellen's 1872 birth record now the sister Mary's son Edward worked as a ships engineer so the sea muster really run in their blood you know it was like in the family they all wanted to be out on the out on the ocean excuse me unfortunately Edward drowned at the age of 42 now John later worked as a boiler shop laborer and lived to the age of 78 but for the majority of his life he spent his time out on the sea John Lowry was Gary Moore's great great grandfather next we have Canadian born William James Peary first discount period Belfast he was an Irish shipbuilder who was in charge of Harlan and Wall when the passenger liner Titanic was built so I can see why one of your people picked this one and this is anything to do with the Titanic is you know interesting to a lot of people now when asked about whether there were sufficient life rafts on the Titanic prior to its fateful inaugural voyage Peary replied that the oh the ship was unsinkable and that the life rafts were there for us doing others his words would haunt him for the rest of his life co-worker and nephew Edmund Thomas Andrews was one of the many that died on the Titanic Peary was also meant to be on that voyage but took ill just prior to departure now ironically William died aboard the ship Ebro on a business trip to South America cause of death was pneumonia his body was returned to Ireland for burial and Belfast so he didn't sink or anything but you know he did have a delayed fate I suppose of dying on a ship later much later in life and out in the Peary branches the researchers found so many interesting people on the Peary lines it was super super hard to choose there were 19 different notable people out in his branches as well as eight or more people that had unique events in their life that they our researchers noted so since I referenced Abraham Lincoln earlier we'll go ahead and start with Dr. Harlow Barney now he was born in Luzern County Pennsylvania one of 12 children he married Amy Wolf at the age of 20 in 1849 he was involved in a civil suit and it may be the one that we found that was for an HM Barney regarding money lost due to a fire and not being accountable he took on Greenberry Lafayette Fort as a counsel now that was Fort's first briefing as a lawyer nobody really knew who he was but he was able to continue on and win the case and his opposing counsel was Abraham Lincoln so Fort and Lincoln became fast friends over this case and you know Fort continued on to become a politician in Illinois and you know so thank you to Dr. Harlow Barney that was that was out there on Williams branches or who knows you know how they would have meant or if they would have now Harlow Barney and William Peary are a mere six degrees apart with one of the connections being by marriage and then it was fun seeing an Australian well we actually had a few Australian and New Zealand connections in Williams branches this was Sir James Allen who was a prominent New Zealand politician and diplomat he was born in Adelaide Australia he held a number of the most important political offices in the country including Minister of Finance and Minister of Foreign Affairs he was also New Zealand's Minister of Defense during World War one turns out that he's only seven degrees from William Peary now two more notable connections are William Hugh Montgomery CVBE and William John Alexander Montgomery William Hugh was born in New Zealand and was a politician of the Liberal Party from the Canterbury religion William John was a New Zealand politician from Little Rivers on Banks Peninsula and a merchant in 1884 he became the fourth Minister of Education in New Zealand and both of the Williams were only five degrees from William Peary so that was fun next we have Samuel Cunningham he was born about 1768 in Cricutstone Ireland he was one of the 12 children of Samuel Cunningham senior and Mary Barber Cunningham Samuel represented his family's Belfast baseline of business in the West Indies now in 1796 he was in St. Vincent planning a trip home to Ireland he was only 28 years old but he had a premonition that he was going to die en route so we wrote out his will now in it he left generous generous bequest for each of his parents all of his siblings and the poor and clay parish as well several other named individuals and sure enough Samuel was in a battle at sea when a French privateer attacked the ship he was on the Portland packet which was running under the British flag Samuel is said to have fought bravely with the seamen he tried to fend off the attack and save the cargo but he and the captain were shot and killed now Samuel's buried on the island of Montserrat in the Caribbean Sea the ship eventually waited made its way back to Ireland his brother wrote a touching letter to his uncle informing him of the death and it was just kind of cold that those items you know were located I mean that letter was written in 1797 and there's a transcription available to read now this one we didn't find the direct connection between them as the elder Sam Samuel Cunningham represented a brick wall that we did not have time to demolish this week however there's strong evidence that he and Archibald Montgomery are related making the younger Samuel Cunningham and William Peary possible distant cousins so our final starting person was Ruby Murray a Northern Irish singer and one of the most popular singers in the British Isles in the 1950s she had surgery done on her throat as a baby which left her with a very husky voice she made her debut at the tender age of 12 now sometimes we find that the occupations are likely to have been what brought the couples together so here we found another Doherty but this time it was off of Ruby Lamar's branches Ellen McCormick Doherty was she was 23 years old a spinster and a shirt maker residing on Bennett Street when she married Thomas Doherty he was 25 years old a bachelor and a tailor residing on William Street son of William Doherty their children's names were Mary Thomas George Sarah Elizabeth Thomas Ellen James and two others we couldn't locate but you know pretty pretty common names but just really interesting that you know she was a shirt maker and he was a tailor and they came together so but I don't know that was a lot of William so you know William was residing on William Street the son of William and Ellen Doherty was Ruby Lamar's great grand aunt so that was their connection and then we always give a nod to the military you know whether or for war or not these men gave their lives and were patriotic towards their countries so here we just looked at the great war or world war one and we found the following we have Cyril Gerard Hazelden captain and the royal engineers and the first husband of Jane Lawson Ormrod who died in France James Patterson Ferguson was working in South Africa when he returned to Belfast Ireland to re-enlist for world war one his previous service was with the South Irish horse until 1908 he was 34 years old and a motor engineer in 1915 we have Victor Stanley Ferguson was a motor mechanic who enlisted in Britain's Royal Navy for the duration of world war one Thomas James Cleaver who served as a private with the first battalion New Zealand Rifle Brigade he was deployed overseas on the western front he died from influenza and cerebrospinal meningitis in 1919 in France we have Robert Frederick Cleaver who served as a private with the second battalion Auckland infantry he was deployed overseas on the western front he was diagnosed with TB in 1917 and was transported back to New Zealand a month later Arnold Howard Muniz served at the Coast Artillery Corps during world war one six degrees from Ruby Lamar was SPR Frank Edmonds who died from wounds while serving in Egypt oh so I missed that I would have had to add Egypt to our list of places Samuel Barber Com was killed in action in France he was a lieutenant in the north Irish horse seven degrees from William Peary so a lot of really really brave souls now on wiki tree we're all connected we're all cousins connected by blood or marriage and right now they're 29 million 11,491 cousins on wiki tree alive or not our research this time was primarily focused on northern Ireland but by the end of the week we thought we'd research in the following locations Canada the Caribbean England Germany India Ireland Lebanon New Zealand Scotland South Africa the United States and Wales and of course our one poor gentleman that was in Egypt so you know they kind of wound up traveling all over you know looking all over at least for uh these locations for records if you have any questions about the presentation or wiki tree you can find us on facebook twitter or wiki tree dot com and then while the image credits play here I just want to take a minute to thank all the incredible wiki trees that helped with research this challenge we more than 72 people work on this challenge they found an amazing amount of discoveries and they were really fun work to uh group to work with and I also like to congratulate and thank Donna Bowman for leading such a successful week as a captain as well as you know thank Anne and your group for working with us this week so how do you feel the challenge went um in the end there Anne I thought it was really successful um I would first of all I would like to thank um wiki tree for for hosting us um allowing us to participate but I would particularly as well like to thank the participants um they did an incredible job I knew it was going to be a challenge because um of the difficulties that there are in our research but they really um came to the fore um made really exciting um discoveries and it was really great to see um so I would like to genuinely thank thank all of the participants um for their efforts well we just have so much fun doing this and you know we feel like we get to give at least the gift of our research and what we find um to others but yeah it was so fun to see the collaboration between everybody and communications and you know people that maybe thought they weren't going to be able to contribute a lot and they came in and talked to others and went oh I can find these records you know I can find stuff on people and you know but that's what people have to do they have to be afraid to step outside of their comfort zone you know get out of that box and go out and look in a new area and you'll see what you can find so I'm always excited to see people kind of moving into new arenas like that and hopefully you know this helped a lot of our wiki treers you know learn new resources from you and from the group on how to do irish research in the future so that they can work on their own trees yes no I think think overall it was very successful very enjoyable and very productive yes and you know and you and the group I mean you guys broke several records anyways you know we were worried that you and I when we started were like hmm I wonder how much they'll find uh because we know there's those gaps and you know in time for Ireland where it's kind of hard to find records um but people just did an amazing job and they still got a lot of profiles added uh you know and just did such an incredible job yes and I think I mean it was really obvious to me as well the whole kind of learning experience that there was um you know right throughout both in terms of you know how to research in Ireland but also learning you know um how to make the most of wiki tre and that was really important as well well this has been a lot of fun and thank you again for joining me and I hope you viewers out there will join me in the next wiki tree challenge


What's the worry y'all welcome back to Kenny for real? This this channel has kind of turned into me reacting to bleach report articles Because that's fun. Especially when it's trade related and we got another one one off-season trade idea for every NBA team Huh? Yes, sir. Let's get it to it. Um, I'm super excited for this one because the cover poster It's my guy Zach LeVine and I'm guessing based on the the other guy They have Zach LeVine getting traded to the Grizzlies in some type of trade dealing with Dylan Brooks, so let's see Last time we looked at a trade article was a couple days ago, and I would say 85 to 90 percent of that was like Why so it is a different Arthur? author author Let's see what he thinks shout to Greg Schwartz Hopefully you bring the heat. Let's get it. The Atlanta Hawks would trade up They get the first overall pick to draft Anthony Edwards to keep him in Georgia keeping them in the Atlanta area and Then the Timberwolves we get the sixth overall pick of DeAndre Hunter. I do not think this is a trade than Timberwolves We do if anything they're trying to make a trade that significantly helps them right now if they're gonna trade the first overall Pick they're gonna trade for a guy that can come in and immediately be an impact player I'm not saying DeAndre Hunter is not that because I don't know what a sophomore season holds But if they're gonna trade the first overall pick they want to go and get a third guy not like a third star I'm not saying of the all-star caliber player, but like a nice nice really good role player DeAndre Hunter didn't have a great Ricky season, so I don't see them trading down to bring him in when they have Playoff aspirations, I guess so cool for the Atlanta Hawks. I mean That would be a good trade that frees up some stuff for a camera It's to get a lot of those small four minutes and then of course you get the second overall pick You bring an Anthony Edwards. I would like that for them But for the the Timberwolves probably not so much over one Then with the Boston Celtics, they have Jared Allen get and trade it for Robert Williams Carson Edwards in a 20-21 first round pick. I don't see why the Brooklyn Nets do this deal Yeah I mean the Boston Celtics probably say yes, I know people love Time Lord. I like Carson Edwards a lot But there is one position on their roster that could use an upgrade Daniel Tyson is cool He's been doing his job very well But an upgrade in what it says here in the rebounding problem would be Jared Allen But again, I don't know if the Brooklyn Nets do this deal. I just don't know if they get out of this Especially a lot of you protect the pick and for a team like the bosses of the Brooklyn Nets So I'm trying to win a championship bringing in Robert Williams and Carson Edwards Doesn't really raise the ceiling of your team more than having Jared Allen Next the Brooklyn Nets. Okay. All right Blake Griffin my boy Blake for Spencer DeWittie Torian Prince and Garrett Temple If anything, I like this for Blake Griffin to get him in a situation where he can compete Because we know when Blake Griffin is healthy like completely healthy. He can be really good. Think about that last year in Detroit He can be really really good so I would like that for him I would think that the Brooklyn Nets are probably shooting a little bit higher They're shooting a little bit higher Maybe they have to settle here with Blake Griffin But I think they're shooting a little bit higher if they're going to start trading away pieces I do like this deal for the pistons too. Spencer DeWittie come back to the pistons.  So so far not terrible not terrible so far the Charlotte Hornets. All right So the Charlotte Hornets receive the 21st overall pick from okc A 20-22nd our pick from the Knicks, Xayah Smith and Al Horford for Taro Rozier and Cody Zeller I don't hate this deal either for both teams. Let me explain why Philly gets another ballhandler that they could desperately need y'all Saw one bit Simmons went down with his injury. They didn't really have any ballhandler and Taro Rozier could do that Um, Taro Rozier is a bit overpaid But he had a really good first season for his standings and with the Hornets So I could see that Cody Zeller adds some more depth to the center position So I understand why Philly would do this especially since you get off that contract, right? Why the Hornets do it is because they're a team that's trying to do that hit the rebuild Do all of that so you get another first round pick and though it is the 21st overall You can hit a gem if you're smart with your drafts Um another second round pick you get Xayah Smith You could take a flyer on because I mean he hasn't really done much in this NBA career so far But he was drafted where he was for a reason We know the potential he could have and they're bringing Al Horford so you get a bad contract But it's not like you were using that money for anything else You know I'm saying and then with this you free up vante to be the primary guy on the in the guard position Maybe I don't love it too much for the Hornets But I can see a situation where it would be a okay deal for them, you get me next Okay, here are the Chicago Bulls We get the first overall pick and James Johnson We trade them the fourth pick the second a second round pick Thaddeus Young, Chet Lundsen and Daniel Gaffer I don't hate this trade for the Bulls Um I'm trying to see from minnesota's standpoint again Like I said with the first trade with the Atlanta Hawks If I think of the Minnesota Timbers are trading that first overall pick They're trying to get a guy in that can immediately come in and be an impact player And you're not getting that with Thaddeus Young, Chet Lundsen and Daniel Gaffer Though all three are great contributors.  None of them are going to be that guy Um, so why the Bulls I would like this deal other than like I really don't want to give up Daniel Gaffer I think he he could be really decent in his league if that means trading up to the first overall pick You have to take some casualties So I wouldn't be against this as a Bulls fan, but again, don't see the Minnesota Timbers making a deal like this next Uh, the Cleveland Cavaliers Okay, they get jeweler's random Elfer Payton and Kevin Love gets to New York It's kind of a wash of a deal. I mean Kevin Love in New York would be cool But I don't really have an opinion on this. It don't seem like it helps. It's either the team too much So we'll keep it moving the Dallas Mavericks Get Patrick Beverly and exchange they trade maxi cleaver DeLon right in a 2022 round pick that seems a bit a Pretty decent size package for a guy like Patrick Beverly maxi cleaver is cool. I really like maxi cleaver's game I think that they might be giving up a little bit too much for what Patrick Beverly brings Another dog's coming in sniffing around next The Denver Nuggets Uh, they fixed it. So somebody sent me this screenshot. This trade had originally said Denver Chicago Bulls receive instead of these two teams and I'm like, wait, what? So, okay, they fixed it. They get and they edited the article The Denver Nuggets received Derrick White and the San Antonio Spurs get a the 22nd overall pick this year K-Base Diop and Maté Morris I don't think Spurs fans will be happy with this at all They really love Derrick White and I can see why once I saw I'm in a bubble Like really sat down and really paid attention to Derrick White I can see why Spurs fans really like him plays good defense and I mean, I saw him in a playoffs two last year So I'm not trying to act like this is my first time seeing them But I didn't really watch that much of the Spurs regular season this year. So seeing him in the bubble Was was a little something I don't think they want to do this deal because they do believe in Derrick White But the thing is he's up for a new contract soon and I don't know what his his value is I can see the Denver Nuggets doing this in the heartbeat Like I give up K-Base Diop who doesn't play for us. Maté Morris has been a good backup But he's a backup at the end of the day He's replaceable and a 22nd overall pick to get a guy like Derrick White Who's like six three good defender plays his role very well I would do this in a heartbeat if I'm the Denver Nuggets But for the Spurs and my I might be just a little bit hesitant next the pistons are trading with the Bulls Okay So the Bulls are giving up channel Hodges and Lou Cornette and the fourth overall pick and we're getting back Derrick Rose and the seventh overall pick the Rose back in Chicago, baby It'll be hard to give in to fans to get the seventh overall pick again. That's all I'm really trying to say it would be hard To convince the fans to get the seven overall pick again But if our front office sees somebody that they really love and they know that they can get them at seven do the deal Do the deal If they if you know that the the guy that you want in this draft will be there seven Why didn't I get Derrick Rose back to Chicago? I wouldn't be against it. I wouldn't be against it at all You know me next The Warriors actually overall if I'm great in this track I think it's a good trade for both teams In this situation again if the Bulls believe that the guy that they want can be there at seven Okay, so next the Warriors they trade a second round pick and get Dennis Mim Jr. Todd Gibson I mean, I I guess It's kind of a lame trade move on to the next one the Houston Rockets I've seen a trade like this often At first I saw like Eric Gordon for Al Horford straight up one for one But this one has Al Horford in 2021 first round pick and then a second round pick from the Knicks For Eric Gordon Daniel House in Austin River So you're giving up a lot of depth again in Al Horford and though they can use a guy like Al Horford In his massive contract I just don't think it's a good deal to give up that much depth for a guy that has is We can agree his own a decline is on a huge contract. I do not like this deal for Houston Don't do this deal more next Indiana Pacers buddy healed for Victor Lodipo I can see that so this is a worthy trade for both teams with buddy He'll basically want to be in being at a Sacramento. We're not liking his role anymore And then with the Indiana Pacers not knowing Victor Lodipo's value is and not wanting to pay him once his contract is up I can see this is an even basically one for one deal because a second round pick is a second round pick I can see both teams benefiting for this or thinking that hey Not a bad not a bad chance of us taking on Victor Lodipo Because we know what he could be and then not a bad chance to take it on buddy heal because we know what he could be so So far Greg Schwartz not terrible trades You know sammy it's hard to come up with a trade article for every team. I give them that next the Clippers our trade is zubats zubats Landry shaman Magruder in a second round pick for Miles Turner I don't see why the Pacers do this too much Unless they're trying to have some bonus slide over to the five and just open things up for him But overall I think Miles Turner is an impactful enough player for them that they would want just a bigger package in this I think zubats can be good But we saw just recently that like there's a Certain group of bigs that he just cannot hold his all with Like we saw that in the game yesterday He just cannot hold his own to get certain bigs who It like the bigs that are able to stretch and the bigs that are fast He can't hold his own either those two and we're getting to the point where most of the bigs fit that Um, and Miles Turner is a good defender man. What can I say? He's a good defender Lakers Oh, they traded the whole team. Danny green. Cal Cousman can take his car with Pope in a second round pick for Gordon Hayward um For the Celtics This kind of adds another prompt like the Celtics have some of the best wing depth, you know, I'm saying well, actually Other than the couple guys that they have that's starting I mean Danny green coming off the bench Catepe's car will come off the bench would be a lot better than what they have now, you know what I'm saying um And Gordon Hayward, obviously even though he had a good season We could we have been seeing them be successful without him So you trade him and prove your depth. I could see that being a okay trade for them contingent on if Danny Green could hit his shots or Catepe's car will poke you hit his shots But for the Lakers Get a third guy again as a third fourth guy Gordon Hayward is really good in this league I don't hate this trade for both teams, but I'm sure there's going to be Lakers fans and Celtics fans that both hate it Because it's just the way fandom works. Here's the here's the trade of the whole thumbnail Zach Levine from Brandon Clark Dillon Brooks and Grayson Allen Well, I'm going to politely decline this trade um Thank you for the offer But the reason I am declining is because we already have a front court that we like with larry market and windell carter Brandon Clark and Zach Levine are actually like eight months apart in age You know, it's not like we get any younger Dillon Brooks is I like Dillon Brooks sometimes but he has his tendency of taking shots He like bro, that's not a good shot And then Zach Levine has a tendency too, but Zach Levine is actually a better player So Zach Levine taking a not-so-good shot is just A bit better than Dillon Brooks taking a not-so-good shot. You know what I'm saying? I don't like this deal. I'd rather I'd rather keep Zach Levine on the roster but I could I mean Wolves fans There is a camp that really wants to keep Zach Levine There's a camp that would rather trade him away and I'm like right here in the middle if if the right deal is there I'm okay with with trading Zach Levine, but I'm not going to trade up just because you know I'm saying and that that seems like a just because trade even though again I really do like Brandon Clark. If y'all remember my rookie draft class video from the 2019 draft Brandon Clark was one of my five favorite rookies and he exceeded expectations this year But it's just with the Chicago Bulls. It would be weird to have him lorry marketing and window carded together It's kind of like a log jam out there the Miami heat or trade a bam out of bio Kendrick non Iggy Kelly Olenek for jollybee. We saw this in the last video. I don't want to talk about it too much So if you missed that video go watch it. I like bam with the the heat culture. I wouldn't trade him away I think he has endless endless potential right now Milwaukee bucks get a guy that they could get give it to or get a bucket CJ Trade in a way for Dante Di Vincenzo George Hill. Oh my god, they giving up the whole barn But I think this is a bad a bad trade. Oh no a good trade for Milwaukee because you need something You need to somehow convince Yanis to stay once that contract is up and CJ can potentially do that But for the Portland trailblazers You know kind of an You you taking a step back for sure with trading always CJ and Dante's cool George Hill is cool But again, you're taking a step back and it'll be really on Damian Lillie's back if you didn't think it was before next The bulls are in like 70 trades so far. Come on, bro Like I understand we got assets and we got good assets trade and lorry marketing the fourth overall pick for the first overall pick joshie kogan and Jake layman Why would we do this deal when you gave us a way better deal with Thaddeus young in it? Why would the bulls trade lorry marketing when we can trade Thaddeus young and get the same drafting? I don't I don't like that trade. Next the pelicans JJ reddick old self josh heart for Miles Turner. JJ reddick is good at a couple things and shooting is one Um, Miles Turner is like the prototypical big I would love to put it along as I am Williamson because he majority of his shots come from the perimeter anyway And of course he protects the paint I would love to see him with the pelicans But I don't know if this is enough assets for them to do especially with JJ reddick being 36 years old basically and josh heart Just be a cool um But I think Miles Turner could be a guy that's going to get traded for less than what the what I would think he's worth You know Next the next trade up whatever it is Trade anything to trade up if you want lamello of lamello is your guy Trade it all to get the first overall pick in this case It has them trading the eighth overall pick a dallas pick from the porzingis trade Frank nila kena and Todd's Gibson um I don't see why the minnesota timbless would do this unless they for some reason they don't love any of the top seven prospects And they'd rather get somebody at eight But if I'm the next I there's nothing that is untouchable in our repertoire picks players If you if you want lamello ball or whoever it is at number one do it all to get that number one pick Okay, see Trading chris paul for gary hairs will bar to my tape morris Um This will allow jamal murray to play probably his natural position of the off guard And of course, I mean we saw chris paul play with three guards this season Right where he can play off ball two and he saw him do it with james hart and he can play off ball very well So they can take take turns Being the primary ball handler, but from okay sees aspect. I feel as though with chris paul I think he's not a negative asset anymore because we just saw him be incredible for an entire season and a post season So for a while people were thinking that chris paul in order to give it of his contract We'd have to I say we but i'm talking about like front offices would have to Attach a pick or attach a future asset to get rid of his contract. I don't think that's the case anymore I think I think there's a team there's teams like denver like milwaukee like new york That would be willing to take chris paul's contract because they believe that what he did this year could be something that he can replicate next year Um, and if that's the case, I don't think this package is great But I could see it being cool enough for them like okay deal We don't have to pay chris paul 44 to 47 million dollars a year. Cool And then we could bring in a guy like gary harris who we've seen be really really good at times and really bad at times And maybe we just to change a scenery can help him him. She gives out xana dinner shrewder. Give me the new three-guard lineup and um Have him play that defensive row, I guess I don't hate this straight for both teams next Orlando magic our trade and dairies garla from obama. Okay, you see he's literally no opinion on that True holiday and jj reddick traded to philly for the 21st overall pick A 2022 lottery protected josh richerson and al horford So both of these guys drew holiday and jj go back to philly, you know, I would love that for philly But you have to think about why did the pelicans do this? um I mean I was gonna say to get younger because you get the sufer those two first round picks josh richons. I obviously younger than jj andrew But then you bring in the al horford contract And you're gonna also have to pay brandon ingram if that's the plan and then eventually you're gonna have to pay Lanzo if that's the plan Then you're gonna have to play zion all while al horford's contract is still on the books Something I wouldn't really want to do phoenix You trade marvin bagley. The money be elitist for kelly ubre and cam johnson No I'm not trading these two dudes for a guy that we don't even know if he can play more than 50 games in a season You know And I honestly believe that cam johnson at the four alongside yandre adan is a match made in heaven, bro I really do I don't know marvin bagley alongside yandre ad even though the potential would be super high because no baggy People laugh at the baggy we pick at him be a second overall. His potential is still there. It's just about staying healthy, right? I think the potential of them playing together can be really cool But I really do believe that the cam johnson Deandre adan front court can be great I really do it opens things up so much more that to the point where marvin bagley wouldn't really be able to open And the floor up like that And the kelly ubre is a god do think will probably get traded in the next year or so trailblazers trade zach collins Rotney hood trevoreza for demar de rosen I'm guessing this is if demar de rosen takes his uh his player option Which he probably will because it's worth like 28 million dollars Um, this is a way for the spurs to get rid of him and this is a way for the parlor trailblazers to get better I would not be against this trade for both teams I really wouldn't be if the goal for the spurs is to be like, okay next chapter demar de rosen the markets didn't work out Then i'm cool with this deal if that is their plan Lex we have calcuzma for bagdanovic They already said that they're going to match anything bagdanovic related So then matching it and then trading him for calcuzma dandy green doesn't make sense to me Spurs trade lemarcus aldrich for the 60 or the 18th overall pick mexican league with the white pal I like this trade too again If the spurs think that their plan is to separate demar and lemarcus Sure, you get the 18th overall pick and the spurs have been notoriously really very good at drafting Right outside the lottery or you know late in the first round Maxi cleba seems like a spurs type player too And then the white pal gets traded for like the fourth fifth time in his career tragic Raptors Signed a trade for surge you get more shooting and zubat sure Utah jazz uh-oh three teams, right? Okay. Utah gets back gordon hayward. Then they boo him boo him Utah fans. How do you feel about that? 76 is getting my collie Okay The boss itself is get to buy to buy his hairs. Oh Um boss defense how y'all feel about having to pay to buy his Harris max money. I don't think you're gonna like that too much Especially considering gordon hayward's contract is up in like a year and a year and a half from now You know and then you also have to pay jason tatum soon So you're gonna have you're gonna have four max players Basically because jason tatum is gonna get a max jayla brown got a max or close to it kimba got a max now You're gonna pay to buy his Harris max I Wouldn't like that if I was y'all personally I would not like that if I was boston and the last trade is voosevich getting traded to her. Oh to washington voosevich in a 15th overall pick allows your lendo mages to move up to the ninth pick get thomas bryan a young player get a bunch of young players in a ish smith for the ninth pick Um voosevich has been on the trademark for like 12 years now So to finally get him in a different place voosevich is an impact player You know i'm saying uh depending on what john wall comes back. It looks like John wall brally be on voosevich again, depending on if John wall is good or at least close to good. That's probably a playoff team We're really hachi mora And then the wing the other wing position will be up in the air I guess because you're trading short brown jr. And I can't even think about who is the backup small for to that team Because I wasn't watching like that. I don't hate that Uh, okay Article better these trades are significantly better than the one we reacted to a couple days ago. Aren't they all great? No, but it was fun. 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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Humane Architecture. I'm not Martin Despeng, in case you couldn't tell. I am Tonya Mui, and I belong to Dokomomo, Hawaii, with Martin, and Martin has been kind enough to let Dokomomo have the summertime to feature, like, some of our favorite architects. And so today, I would like to feature one of my favorite architects, Steven Oyakawa. And I have two guests with me who actually work with Steven, even though he was in Hawaii for a very short time. To me, he's done some of the most iconic buildings in Hawaii. He went to Taliesin, and the two people I have here also went to Taliesin. So welcome. We have, immediately to my left is Roy Oshiro. And actually, this is the first time I meet Roy, so hello, Roy. He's an architect who worked with Steven and Kimball Townsend, who also went to Taliesin and worked with Steven. So we can start off. Can we start off with, because so little is known about him, can we kind of start off with telling a little bit about his, like, where he's from, and his, like, where he went to high school, and all that kind of stuff that Hawaii people are always interested in? Yeah. Sure, Tonya. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not going to pass over to Roy. Go ahead. Steve was born in 1921 in Kahalu, Anahu, and graduated from McKinley High School and went to the University of Hawaii for two years until he transferred to the University of Illinois, from which he graduated in architecture in 1944.  Very much, and had an opportunity to meet with Frank Lloyd Wright in New York, and Frank Lloyd Wright invited him to come study at Taliesin, which he did for, I think, a very short time, like about three months. And then he ended up coming back to Hawaii and went back to study, or work, be an apprentice and an architect at Taliesin for 12 years, beginning in 19, I think 1946. Okay. You take it from there. Right? Well, can we show the slide? We have the first slide. The first slide. So this shows Steve and Oikawa when he was at Taliesin, so pretty young, I guess. It seems like early days with Mr. Wright, where all the students who could gather around him as he demonstrated his organic theories and things that he practiced for the rest of his life. Anyway, Steve Oikawa, I met him in around 1960, 1961 around there, because I was going to the University of Hawaii as a student, studying architecture. For two years, I determined that I wanted to be an architect, so I researched it and found out that Steve Oikawa stayed at Taliesin for a number of years, 15 years, I think. Something like that. Anyway, he was back in Hawaii, practicing architecture. And apparently, I kind of researched his background when he got here, because very controversial. Oikawa? Steve Oikawa. Yes, Steve was very controversial. So some people locally remember that. And when I confront some of the architects here, and those are the things that they brought up to me, you know. So later on, I went out and I went to meet Steve during my last year at school, I mean not last year, but second year at the University School of Architecture. Then what I did is I found out that Steve stayed at Taliesin for like 15 years or so. And he came back to Hawaii where I met him, but he was already married to K, yes. And they had a child at that time when I met him. His name was Musashi about one year old. So I introduced myself and I said, I'm interested in Taliesin because the professors who kind of taught us, and Ms. Engelsen also was interested in Mr. Wright, and they gave me all the background of Mr. Wright. So I followed up, then I met Steve and K, and I thought at first they explained a little background until I said, holy smokes, kind of weird. But in my realm at that time I was studying at the University. I think to make it clear, like if people don't know about Taliesin, right, because Taliesin they make you do everything, like cleaning and cooking and growing your food. You live in tents and all that stuff in Arizona, in the heat of Arizona, right. So I'm sure it would scare any 18 year old.  Let me interrupt for a second. There was the article, I think in 1958 in one of the dailies here, and Steve came out being somewhat outspoken about the architecture in Honolulu upon his arrival back here. But I do think he did preface it by saying that he did come from studying at Taliesin, so he may have had a different attitude about it. And I don't think a lot of people would disagree with what he said. I think a lot of it's very appropriate today, and all that, but I guess it was considered very outspoken at the time. So maybe that's the controversy. So I do have slides of some work that he did, it's kind of chronological, so I have some of the, we can go to the next slide, which is some of the houses that he did, this is like when he first came back or in the 1960s, right, these houses. Roy actually worked with Steve, so I'll let him fill in on that. I think it's earliest, commissions were residential, and this one goes back to 1960, and it's the Yamaguchi House in Kahala, the Roy and I went in, and it's next door to another house, and the original clients are still living in these houses. Do we have the next one too? Is that theirs? No? Is that the same house? Or is that the same house? That is the same house. Yeah, I think so it is. But it's very, it's kind of Frank Lloyd writing in prairie style. You're absolutely correct. It's more or less the prairie style with brick and natural material, you know, and that's the way Mr. Wright studies were like nature, directly with nature, and that's the way we were right through the period that I was there, everything had to do with the culture, nature, and the environment, and all that, which at university I did. They had a chance to do that, yeah. I think when we were fortunate enough to visit it, we have twice, but most recently when we took the photos and the owner invited us in for a while, what is incredible about the house is it's very comfortable, it's not air conditioned, and it's in the flats of Kahala, yet it's extremely cool, it was extremely well designed for this location. Probably living in Arizona, they really learned how to make things cooler down.  They must really like that house then. So the next slide I wanted to show is like one of actually, and a very intriguing building to me, because I've seen it every time we drive along Kapilani, it's just a little walk-up along Kapilani, and it's always intrigued me because it has a lot of interesting details, and it's only been like maybe the last five years where I even knew it was done by Oya Kahala. So, you know, even more so, I find him very intriguing. I actually lived there when I was going to the University of Hawaii, and it was a project he did for his family, and his brother lived there and managed it, and anyway, yeah, it was a great little place. The interior all has cabinetry, that's mahogany, and very fine quality, and you can see the little lights coming down under the windows above, and those were all different colored glass, so they allowed different patterns as the sun hit them coming into it. So those little squares that are going down the building, those were colored lights, oh, that's really neat. I think it might still be there, but I'm not sure. It is. I never go by it at night. Yeah, it's really cute. Yeah. So, and I have more slides of this building a little further away, and then I think the next one shows, you know, like I've always thought this was like such a large cantilever as well, that's, and it's with the, so you lived there, and so when were you living there, then in the 60s? Oh yeah, late 60s, early 70s, yeah. And it was there for a while already, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember this building? Yeah. From what I understand, it was one of his earlier works, or one of his family. He built it for his family. Well, you know, Steve, his mentor, Mr. Wright, I think they were very, in those early days, the hands-on. Yeah. And Mr. Wright, we would narrate, and they would all gather around him. Yeah. From what I understand, what Steve used to talk about. So, was it, was it right, a lie, wait, when did Wright pass away? 1959. 1959. So, okay. So he left Taliesin right, when, either when he passed, just before he passed away, or right after he passed away. Apparently right before he did pass away, if the dates are correct there, maybe we can lead into that with a later project we're going to talk about, yeah. Okay, sure. So, let's see now, what other slide, what other slide that I could find? So, I'm sorry this is not like the best photo, because I got this off of like maps, Google Maps, but this is also another building that I've watched and have been intrigued by for many years, and then I find out it's done by Oyakawa, again. I just found that out maybe like a year ago, then it's on Oyakawa. But it's a medical arts building, but it's kind of in, it looks like it's endangered now that. That's an old building. Yeah, it looks empty, and there are lots of trucks being parked in there, so I just keep being afraid that I'm going to drive by one day and it's going to be completely empty. But do you guys know anything about this building? I'm not familiar with it. Yeah, it's on one who I believe is American, and there was a medical arts building, had doctors' offices. I know there was a physical therapy group in for a while, and I don't know the current status. I know, it looks empty, it's scary. But let's see that, we can go on to more buildings, so this is just a little closer up of the building, but you know how he uses kind of like the natural... Yeah, it was a concrete block, and you can see the mitered windows in the detail. Yeah, the corner window. I don't think the air conditioning ducting was probably... Probably not part of his design, no. I don't think so. Yeah, but it's a nice building. It is, it's a very nice building, and everything about, I like the, you know, the gate entrance fence and everything. Yeah, that's nicely done. It looks well designed and integrated into part of the building, which is something that's not done too often now, but... So let's see, what other buildings do we have? So, now we come into his phase of like libraries. Yeah. So does anybody know how he got all these great commissions to do? I'm not too familiar, but he had his ways of playing politics. Did he? Was he smart about that? Not, not, you know, in those terms, but he had his contacts, you know. And I don't know who or what group, but anyway, when I touched him and talked to people, he did get quite a few commission libraries, Kauai, IAEA, and several different ones. Yeah, yeah. I know of three, so we have the pictures of the three I know of, but there might be more. And lots of school buildings as well, too. Yeah, we haven't researched a school building. Do you know what school buildings he's done? I think the Manalua Intermediate was a pretty large project. Okay. And there are some on Windward campuses I know of. So these are all new buildings that he designed and had built. Yeah. So he had, for the short time that he was working in Hawaii, he did quite a bit of big buildings. Yeah, he kept really busy, it sounds like. So, I mean, and then again, this is like an octagonal building, I believe. Yeah, it is. And so it's got that kind of righty and organic feel. This is the interior. Yeah, it has a central skylight and then you can see that there are perimeter windows above all of the library stacking. So it had an interesting balance of natural light during the daytime. Yeah, well done. Yeah, yeah. Right now it's an office building. So, I don't think it's endangered because I think they're actually using it, but it's no longer the library. The library is probably need all the space they can get right now. Right, right, right. Because it is relatively small if you look at it. Yeah, I think the other one, the Liliha Library was another one. Yes, actually that's, speaking of. Now, this is Liliha Library and it's, you can see it off the freeway, right? That's correct. So, again, it's another one that has intrigued me for years and years and years, just like. You know, sometimes I hear all different stories as time go along, what are they going to do with this library because it's next to the freeway. Yeah, right, right. I guess they were everybody's nervous when the freeway was built, huh? I think one thing interesting about this project, it's my understanding. This was the first that the architect specified all the furnishings, as well as all the built-in, you know, cabinetry, et cetera, like that. Okay. And I think it had a lot of Herman Miller furnishings specified, et cetera, which were probably considered more designer or higher end at the time. Oh, I'm sure. And that occurred also in the Liliha, I mean on Kauai as well. Oh, okay, okay. I think this was the first. Yeah, so I had quite a few pictures of this Liliha Library. And I just remember finding out, oh, it was done by this architect, Steven Oyakawa, and, you know, he was Taliesin. And then it was like, oh, no wonder. Yeah, one of the few buildings that he had the parking upstairs. Right. So there's a ramp on the side of it, you know. Right, right. Which is sometimes not the best, but it's really nice. I mean, even like this, I mean, it's sorry it's not the best picture. They haven't mowed their lawn. But I thought it was just so nice that they even like the, just the bench, you know, the details of just the bench, the way it cantilevers out. I thought it's so nice. And then the moon gate on the, in that side there, I just thought. And the curve, instead of just coming straight down, there's this little curve in it that just adds so much texture and interest to this building. So I think this was, I guess still before you guys time, right? That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. So when did you go move into, when did you work for Stephen? Well, see, I was at Telleas and maybe like 61 through 67. Okay. Oh, they're quite a lot. Oh yeah. Very long time. Mrs. Brighthead. Okay. Taken over. Taken over the architectural side, which Wesley Peters handled with Jack Howell. But you had Yovanna also was there at the time doing the dance program, you know. Is that one of Wright's children? Yes. The daughter. The daughter. And she had those. So when I got there, kind of a mixed feeling because of Mr. Wright's death around two years hence. Yeah.  You know, people going here and there. So when I got there, they were moving to Wisconsin.  Oh, really? So first thing I did is, okay, you go to Wisconsin, here is your idea. You went to Wisconsin? Yeah. And the car that you're going to go with, you know, caravan. Oh, really? So I really didn't meet Mrs. Brighthead and the whole group at that time. Except that when I got there, it was a sandstorm coming up. And I thought I was in real desert. Coming from Hawaii, I'm sure it was. So did your driver as well? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can't lock out. I said, hey, what's this? And he had the windshield going. You know, because of the sandstorm. And I thought, wow, this is a desert home. Oh, that's my first Arizona experience at Taliesin. Oh, my goodness. Maybe a little background is appropriate. You know, the original Taliesin is in Wisconsin, spring greens. Right, right. 40 miles outside Madison. And so the fellowship is the school and the architects and the whole group were known. Spent the summers in Wisconsin and all that. And in the winters, it just became too cold. So they decided to go starting in the mid-30s to Arizona. Yeah. And that was this migration that always occurred. Right. Roy was lucky enough to get there right before the migration. Oh, dear. So I guess our next slide, I think we might still be on the Lija Library. This is the interior skylight. You know, again, it shows his kind of his interest in this organic architecture, which. And so I think the last actual project that I have of his is this, well, not actual, I have one more, which is adorned. But it's the Lijue public library, which is in Kauai. So this was in the later 60s, right? I think so. One of his later projects, right? So were you involved? Were you working? No. He still hadn't come back yet. Actually Lijue may have been after the university. I'm thinking. I'm not really sure. Maybe I should research that. But Lijue Library, I mean, I've always been just in awe of its beauty. So did he ever talk to you guys about it? Like some people say it's supposed to look like an open book. Some people say it's like soaring wings so you can fly when you learn. And I've just heard all kinds of stories about what they think it should be, what it represents. But did he ever say anything? I haven't. I didn't have any controversy over the library. Yeah. I think it's probably just appropriate to the site. And I think the way that it allows natural light to come in. Yeah. It's a beautiful library. If we can see more of the slides maybe, you can see. And actually going to it, it's a really hard building to photograph. I mean it's so much more beautiful in person than it is in photographs. And then on this one it kind of reminded me of the TWA. Oh yeah. So that's why I thought, oh maybe it's the one that it's supposed to be flying. It soars up into education. So tell me a little bit though about Steven Oyakawa as a person. So you worked with him and you knew him. Was he like quiet or was he a gregarious kind of a guy? Or what was he like? I always found him normal. Very thoughtful. And very into and sharing of his projects and what he was doing. And I didn't come along until 1968. So Musashi was probably 10 or 11 years old then. Okay. Yeah. And so he seemed to be a good attendee father. And I remember meditating and being I believe into martial arts as was Musashi at the time. But Roy spent more time. I mean you actually worked with him in the office. I did work with him in the office. And well he did meditate like Kim says in the morning.  Be quiet. So Charlie and I, he's an adjustment. Okay another one. And we just do meditation for maybe 10, 15 minutes. Okay. To get our thoughts and ideas in line, you know, before we start working. That's interesting. Was he in Manoa or was he in Kailua then? It was in Kailua at that time. Yeah, okay. That's true. So we're going to go to I guess one of the last few slides. If we can show the rest of our slides. So this was also a big project, right, that he got. That's correct. So and I think was this controversial was a little bit. Well you know people say from you know, rubbish can to whatever.  Still organic. I thought he did as a dormitory's concern for the space and all that. I think he did a very good job because people don't realize about the difficulty. The difficulty. Let's say on the shading panels on the exterior. It's triple round. Going this direction, going this direction, and going this direction. Oh wow, a lot of geometry. That's why they had figured it out when they first started in many facets trying to figure out to put that together. Okay. Did you folks want to talk about the Kona Resort? Because actually we're kind of starting to run out of time. We didn't have our break. We did. But this is a beautiful rendering. So we only have like a few seconds left. I don't know, did you want to say anything about this? I got this from you. It's beautiful. I'm just thinking that probably the time, it was about time of statehood you know in 1959. And this was planned for the Kona Coast of Hawaii. And it was by Taliesin Associated Architects which had taken over after Frank Lloyd Wright's death. And I just think that probably the timing of Steve's coming back here, especially if it preceded the death. And I know that he had intended to become involved with this project. So I think there's something there. That's probably why he came back. Yeah, it's a beautiful night rendering. It's beautiful. And one of our former student architect was David Davison. And he does night rendering. I used to watch him. He has this technique to really make it outstanding if you have a night shot like that. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's quite a lost art, too. Well, it's unfortunate it was never built. Quite a project. But so I think we're running out of time. But if we want to, Dokumomo Hawaii invites you both to come and do a talk story. And we want people out there listening to pay attention to when Dokumomo has talk stories because we'd love to have you guys to come back and talk even more about Steven Oyako because personally he is an architect of great interest to me. He has some really unique buildings. And I think we can research and find even more for the next talk story. So maybe people can come and watch it. And I think we thank you very, very much for being with us and for sharing whatever you know about Steven. One quick thing, I forgot to say, when did he leave Hawaii and pass away? I think people are always kind of curious about that. I think mid-70s, and I believe he passed away in 1980, he had gone to Colorado and was working with a colleague. With who? A colleague from Talleus. A colleague from Talleus and he went to Colorado. Okay, and then he passed away in 1980 in Colorado. Yes, he did. Okay, so basically he only worked in Hawaii for like 15 years, really? Yeah, that's my understanding. So thank you, thank you again, thank you everybody for listening. Stay tuned for more humane architecture next week. There will be another really interesting Dokumomo Hawaii talk and we hope you folks all come to our next Dokumomo Hawaii talk story and keep watching us on Facebook and Instagram and we'll post when we have these two lovely gentlemen on our talk story to talk more about Steven Oyakawa or at least about Talleus and maybe we'll find out even more about Talleus and what it was like there. So thank you, everyone.


A horse with a speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty high old silver, the lone ranger. In Western United States, when government troops were sent to the frontier to put down Geronimo's rebellion, they had no experience with Indian fighting. The power of the ruthless and crafty chief might never have been broken if it had not been for the masked rider of the planes. It was only his knowledge of the country, his courage and resourcefulness which made possible the final victory and the lasting peace. Return with us now those thrilling days when the West was young. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse Silver. The lone ranger rides again. The squad of soldiers were at attention. A smiling officer approached a grim-faced man who stood with his back against the wall. Pleasant day, Matthews. Quite. Pleasant day in which to die. One is much like another for that purpose. A cigarette before you leave us? No thanks. A blindfold? No thanks. You're easily satisfied. Perhaps. Any requests? Well, one if you would. Yes. If I could be carried to my bunk afterwards. To your bunk? I have friends who will call for me in an hour. Oh. I know your troop is to march. But if you could spare two men to remain with me until my friends arrive. I guess it can be managed. Tracy and Garvin. Tracy and Garvin? Well, they're the last two I'd have expected you to ask for. It's for you to say, of course. Oh, it's all right, I suppose. Anything else? Nothing. Well, goodbye. Goodbye. Ready? And? Tracy, Garvin. You'll carry Matthews to his bunk. Yes, sir. Follow me. Yes, sir. In here. That's it. On the bunk, please. Right. There. Tracy, you and Garvin will not ride with the troop. You'll stay here in barracks with Matthews. Friends will come with them. Yes, sir. Burn them out! I wish this job on us. Matthews asked for a friend. Matthews asked for us. I heard him. That's funny. Yeah. I wonder how soon then friends of his will be alone. Gentlemen, don't move. Call out and I'll let daylight through you.  Blanks. Neat, eh? Your friend Captain Lewis will be surprised to hear of it. Just as he'd be surprised to know I can seal these guns in my bunk. Careful, don't move. Don't shoot. I thought it funny because I asked for you two to be left with me, eh? What? What are you aiming to do? Both of you gave lying testimony that sent me to the firing squad. But I... Lewis paid you to lie. No, honest. We never lied. He wanted to be court-martialed. Out of the way. And you're the skunk so helped him. Listen. You listen, gentlemen. But first, we ride. Three days later. Come on, Zoomey. Get him up, Scouts. It's out of range. Oh, oh, Scouts. Oh, oh, Zoomey. Oh, oh, oh. What matter? Listen, do you hear anything? They're shocked when someone crying out. Follow me, keep us up here. Come on. Get them up, Scouts. Thought you'd almost got loose from your ropes that time, huh? Well, try a stunt like that again, and I'll shoot to kill. You can't get away with this, Matthew. You got us loose.  You'll get caught. Oh, no. Don't shoot, David. There.  What are you going to do with us? Do? I haven't decided yet.  Can you think of any good reason why I shouldn't? Oh, don't.  Captain Lewis was more to blame than us. Oh, I won't overlook Captain Lewis. He'll be a tender, too. What the? A mask, man. With a red skin. Help! Get out there. Clear out. Go home. I'll take that gun. Don't release those fellas. Don't do that. You... Captain Matthews. You know me. The word went out three days ago. You were executed. I wasn't. Well, so I see. But how... There's no use making a secret of it now. The night before I was to be shot, a friend substituted blanks for bullets and the rifles of the men appointed to the firing squad. Well, that's how you escaped. Right. Those fellas' time was untying. They must be Private Tracy and Garvin. Correct. They were pointed missing. How did you know? They believed they have deserted. We never deserted. He made it go with them at the point of a gun, mister. Why? Because three men brought me to that firing squad, stranger. These two and Captain Lewis. I've heard of him. I said I'd make each one of them pay for what he did. And I will. Right now, it doesn't look as though you're in a position to carry out threats. We'll see. Well, Matthews, you can saddle up. You're going back to the fort. You'll get a reward for this, mister. Stranger, wait. Well? I suppose you're an outlaw wearing that mask. But even a crook shouldn't want to see a man shot for something he didn't do. You claim you aren't guilty? I'm not. I swear I'm not. Don't you listen to him, stranger.  Quiet. I'll judge that for myself. Matthews, you were convicted of the court martial of sending the plans of Fort Davis to Geronimo. With those plans in his possession, Geronimo could easily have attacked and wiped out the garrison. But I didn't. And the patsy was shot near the fort. Those plans and notes in your handwriting were found on him. Stranger, I drew those plans. Yes, and I wrote those notes out, too. But not for the reason everybody thinks. No. Lewis tricked me into it. He got me into an argument about the campaign. And I wrote out those things just to prove my point. And then what happened to them? I left them in his quarters. I didn't give them another thought. The first I heard of them again was when it was claimed they'd been found without a patsy. How do you explain his getting possession of them? That isn't hard to figure out. Either Lewis gave those plans to him or planted them on him after he was killed. Lewis was leading the scouting party that caught him. Mister, you're just wasting time. He claimed all them things at the trial and it was proved they wasn't so. Because of the lying testimony you and Garvin gave. We only gave the truth. The truth.  And that? That they'd seen me talking secretly without a patsy. That they'd seen me take money and hand over papers. So you claimed the charges were false and Captain Lewis was responsible. He was. But why? Because he's always hated me, that's why. Because I was a better soldier than he was. Because I got engaged to Sally Griffin. Because I was going... Sally Griffin? The daughter of Major Griffin? Yes. Tonneau. Uh-huh. Tie Matthews. Tie him up securely. Tonneau do that. Bless you. Bless you? Why can't you give me a chance? Why can't you let me stay free to prove I was framed? I'm handling this. You're showing good sense, Mister. We'll take him with a fork. We'll tell the Major you're the one that's to get the reward cash too. Not so fast. Huh? I've got an idea that you two will have plenty to explain when you return. Explain? What do you mean? They'll ask you why you let Matthews get the best of you. They'll want to know how it happened Matthew's friend was able to substitute blanks for bullets. But... But we can explain things. Maybe. But remember, right now, both of you are considered deserters. They don't know Matthews is alive. They don't know that he forced you to accompany him. Well, mister, won't they see him now, Savvy? How'd it come about? If they see him, I'm in charge here. Matthews doesn't go back to the fort unless I give the word. But what's your game, huh? What are you up to? I'm not so sure Matthews hasn't told the truth about this affair. You must be local. Wait. Hear me out. I'll go ahead. I haven't arrived at any decision one way or the other. But I'll tell you this. If Matthews is right, you'd be fools to go back. I don't get it. If Matthews told the truth, then Lewis must have paid you to give false testimony. But we... I said... Hear me out. Now then, if Lewis paid you once, he'll pay you again for silence. You can keep Matthews a prisoner here. Send word to Lewis you demand more cash. And clear out to where you can enjoy it. Yeah, we could do that. Only it ain't so. What are you trying to make us say anyhow, mister? That we lied at the court-martial? You know more about that than I do. Well, we never.  Well, think over what I said. If Matthews is lying, take him in. But if he isn't, you've got everything to gain by following my suggestions. The Lone Ranger and Tonto walked away from Tracy and Garvin as they consulted together. But not a move, nor an expression of the two soldiers escaped the masked man. Although it looks as though Matthews was telling the truth. I wanted to see how Tracy and Garvin would react to what I suggested. They'd simply insisted upon turning Matthews in. It would have appeared as though he'd been lying. That's right. Those fellows wouldn't have any reason for talking it over between themselves unless they felt they might gain by my suggestion. They couldn't gain by it unless Captain Lewis had hired them. They accept. They decide to get in touch with Lewis and demand more cash. We'll know they're guilty, but that won't be enough. What do? They'll have to trap them in such a way that their conviction won't rest on our words alone. You've got plans. I think so. By the time being, we'll let them think where the outlaws they seem to believe us. And say nothing to Matthews either. It won't hurt to have them think we're against him. Tonto and I'll talk. Wait. I think they've finished. We'll see what they decided. Hey, stranger! Yes? We, uh... We was thinking... Go ahead and talk. Matthews can't hear us. I'm looking, mister. You and the engine are outlaws all right, ain't you? I'm masked. Yeah, sure. But how do we know we can trust you? That's up to you. I'm not asking you to. No need to get offended. But stranger, where do you figure in on this? Mind you, we ain't saying nothing. We ain't admitting nothing. But supposing we did have something on Captain Lewis. Yes, where do you figure to profit? You'd have to get in touch with him. Sure. Which would be dangerous for either one of you. However, you could use us for that. We'll contact Lewis and you collect. With each of us getting a fair split, huh? We can talk about that later. Well, then what do you think? Ain't a bad idea. Game for it? Sure. All right, then, stranger, it's a bargain. We happen to know that Captain Lewis has got plenty of cash and between the four of us, we'll make him pay over just about every last cent of it. The curtain falls on the first act of our Lone Ranger story. Before the next exciting scenes, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. How to continue our story. At Fort Davis, the officers lived in a row of cottages built just outside the stockade. On the evening of the following day, Captain Lewis was talking with Sally Griffin on the porch of her father's home and... Sally. Yes? Look, Sally, do you think I wanted to find out about Matthews? You act as though I should have overlooked my duty when I found those plans, as though I shouldn't have said anything. No, I... Well, then... I'm a soldier's daughter, Captain Lewis. I've asked you to call me Bob. I'd rather not. I can wait. I said I'm a soldier's daughter. I know what a soldier's duty is, what it means to him. But when you found those plans... Yes? I... I felt as though you were glad you'd found them. I can't help it. Maybe I'm silly, maybe I'm not fair to you. But that's just the way it seemed to me. You are unfair. If I am, I'm sorry. I'll tell you something I haven't told anyone. Yes? Perhaps I would have been doing wrong. But if there hadn't been others along, I would have said nothing to anyone about those plans. No. You believe that, don't you? I... I don't know what to think. Well, at least try to believe. I wouldn't have had this thing happen of my own choice. I think you'd better go now. Tired? A little. I'd like to go inside. Will I see you tomorrow? Please, Captain Lewis, give me more time. I... I seem to be... We all mixed up about things. Of course, Sally. Good night. Good night. Young Lewis? Yes, father? Hmm... You haven't been acting very friendly toward him from what I've noticed. I guess not. Any particular reason, honey? I don't know why, father, but I just can't like him. He seems sneaky somehow. Oh, come now, Sally. Well, he does. Listen to me, honey. Yes? I know you thought a lot of young Matthew. No, father. No, don't try to change the subject. I know it's hard for you to speak of it, but it'd better be said and done with.  And before you're many years older, you will have your share of young men hanging about. What I mean is this. What's past is past. There's no use dwelling on it. Do you understand me? Yes, father. Good. Has... has there been anything learned? Uh-huh. Learned? About those two soldiers. What were their names? Tracy and Garvin. Oh, them. Know nothing so far. But they'll be found. They can't travel far without being noticed. Don't you think it's odd that they deserted? Odd? Why? They testified against Ray. Hmm, yes. But I scarcely think there's any connection between that and their disappearance. But there could be. Perhaps. It's not probable, though. Well, good night, father. To bed already? Yes. What? A crook. A crook.  See that? A bullet. What? Silver. A silver bullet. Does it mean anything to you? Silver. Then you... you're... Yes? You're the long ranger. Meanwhile, Captain Lewis had walked slowly toward his own cottage. He mounted the steps, crossed the porch, and inserted his key in the lot. Only to find the door already unlocked. Unlocked? By heavens, I'm sure I locked it before I went out. Where's that lamp? If anything's been stolen, I might as well... Do not steal. A red skin. Do not make noise. What in the devil are you doing here? We bring message. Clear out. Better you hear what Tondra says. Clear out, I tell you. Clear out before I call the guard. You know color name Tracy? No. What was that? No other color name Garvin. What do you know about them? Them send message. You've seen them? Yeah. You know where they are? Yeah. What message would they have for me? Them want cash. Want plenty cash. Huh? Them say you send cash, you get heap trouble. They said that? Yeah. What else did they say? Them $1,000. That all them say. Why the blasted? Look here, that skin. Did they tell you why they wanted that cash? What made them think they could get it? Them not tell that. Where are they? Them not tell. You said you knew. Them not tell. They told you not to, eh? Them not right. So they're asking for $1,000. I suppose they want it as soon as possible. Of course, I haven't that much on hand, but I could give them what I have and the rest later. All right. Just a second until I see how much I have in the desk here. All right. Raise your hands. Fast. What matter? Try to blackmail me, will they? I'll show them the dirty skunks. What you do? Red skin. You're taking me to where they've hidden out. No, Tonto not do that. No? Look at this gun. You'll follow orders or get grilled. Not you. I could shoot you, Red Skin. Shoot you until the guard I found you in here thieving. They'd ask no questions. And that would be the finish of you. You will not shoot. If you obey orders, no. But if you don't, it will be a pleasure. Less than an hour later, the lone ranger drew in his great horse at the small, well-hidden camp he had chosen for a hideout. Tracey and Garvin, with Matthew securely bound, have been waiting for him. And who's over who? Who, fella? Who? Hey, what luck you have. Hey, Jim. Good enough. Can we talk to Lewis? Tonto did. Mr. I got a hand at the end. I'm glad we made it. Yes, and so am I. Well, I'll bet you are. With all the cash we can make working together. Well, Matthews. You rotten outlaw. Comfortable? How could I be comfortable with enough ropes around me to hog-tie a steer? Give me a word. You won't try to get away, and I'll loosen them for you. I'll get away the first chance I can. Well, then, stay the way you are. Hey, stranger. What do we have to hang on to him for anyhow? He's too doggone much trouble. And I'll just finish him off and get rid of him. Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. Do that, and you lose half your hold on Captain Lewis. I don't see why.  You can let the authorities know that your testimony at the court-martial was false. That's enough to scare him with, ain't it? Perhaps. But if Lewis tried to fight you, then you could let him know Matthews is still alive, and Lewis would fear Matthews revenge more than anything else. Yeah. Yeah, that's so. Matthews has already been condemned to death. Lewis knows Matthews would have nothing more to lose by killing him. You're right, again, stranger. You'll hang on to this fellow for a spell yet, and we see whether Lewis is going to come across willin' or not. That's best. How soon you figure Tano will be gettin' back? Well, I look for him any moment now. Stay here. I'm going down the trail of ways to meet him. In the shadows, not far from the camp, two horsemen pull their mounts to a stop there. I'm out of that saddle. Yeah, you got it. You're walking ahead of me. You're taking me directly to their camp. And if you give one word of warning, the first shot is for you. Get that? Yes, sir, sir. And start moving. Up in these woods? Not right. How far? Not far. Let me show you. No tricks now, although it'll be the last you ever try. There. There, camp. Tracy and Garvin. Who's that third fellow? One that got tied up. You'll find out. You'll bet I will. Now, keep on going. Rage! What? Lewis! It's Captain Lewis. Blast you, Redskins. Let him make Tonto bring him. If the Redskins hadn't, he'd have got a bullet where it would have done him the most good.  Matthews. Surprised to see me? You were shot. You mean I would have been if you'd had your way. He tricked the captain. Stand back. Don't try anything. Tricked me, eh? Well, Matthews, you won a second time. No.  Your mistake, Lewis. Drop that gun. Drop it. There. I knew you'd get him, mister. I knew you was on hand somewhere. Now, Captain, maybe you don't feel so smart about finding where we was hid. But I...   But we're the ones that are given the orders. The Redskins can tell you what we was asking for. I won't pay. No, you won't, eh? Reckon you like to have us cross the border where we couldn't be brought back and then send words to the major how you paid us to lie about seeing Matthews here do business with that their patchy. You wouldn't be believed. It's the truth. Just as it's true that you yourself gave those plans to Geronimo Spice. Try and prove it. Who'll take the word of an outlaw and a Redskins? And who'll believe anything two deserters say? You may be surprised. I've paid every penny I'm going to pay.  That's all it was worth. That's your notion. But we got a different one. You're bluffing, Captain. But you know we ain't. You pay up or we'll go ahead and do just as we said we would. Hey, look out, he's got an extra gun. Yo, take it! Oh! That'll hold him. And this'll hold all of you. Up with your hands. Look, hey, watch it. Quickly! Up with them, Tracy. That means you two, Garvin. But what in blazes?  Did I say I was? All right, major, take over. Right. Sergeant, put these men under arrest. They must have heard everything we said. We did. Thanks to the mask man, you, Lewis, you'll get exactly what you'd planned for Matthews, a court martial. No, listen. Silence. Sergeant, untie Matthews. Todd was getting him. Him free. But I don't understand. The mask man, the Indian. I thought they were outlaws. You did? They were scheming with Tracy and Garvin. Only to expose them and Lewis, Matthews. But why didn't you tell me what you were planning? Your help wasn't needed. And if you had known, you might have given us away. Then the Redskins wanted me to come here? Of course, Lewis. And the easiest way to bring you here, without arousing your suspicions, was to make you believe Todd O was trying to keep this hideout a secret. The mask man explained the whole plan to me. Major Griffin. Yes, Matthews? This means you know the truth. I'll be cleared. I'll get back my rank. You will, Captain. And another thing. Yes? I think you'll find Sally waiting for you. The mask man. He's leaving. I wanted to thank him. He doesn't ask thanks, Captain. But I... The Lone Ranger never does. The Lone Ranger? There's an adventure on the trail ahead. It's a copyrighted feature of the Lone Ranger Incorporated.


The NIH-sponsored M Health Training Institutes, MHTIs, are designed to bring together researchers from various disciplines to work on projects related to mobile health. This study used longitudinal social network analysis to investigate the effectiveness of the MHTIs at fostering interdisciplinary communication. It found that conversations between scholars from different disciplines were just as likely as those within disciplines to form or persist over time, indicating that the MHTIs successfully promoted interdisciplinary collaboration. Additionally, the presence of team and gender homophily effects in some years suggests that scholars tend to communicate with members of their own team or gender. This article was authored by Eric Ho, Min Jong-jong, Min Ho Lee, and others.


Moving out to sports, Brazil went behind for the first time in eight games but responded with a controversial equaliser before netting a winner deep into stoppage time for a 2-1 Copa América victory over Colombia. The reigning champions came into the game on a 9-match winning run but trailed 1-0 after 10 minutes when Colombia's Luis Díaz scored a sensational overhead kick. Brazil equalised through Roberto Feminino's header with 12 minutes remaining but Colombia were incensed that referee Néstor Pitana did not hold the game after the ball hit him in the build-up. The ensuing fracker led to 10 minutes of stoppage time being played and the Castamiro robbed Salt into the Colombian wounds when he headed home from a corner in a 100 minute to give Brazil three wins from three in the tournament.