Hey Virgo! This is Kelly. Welcome back to my channel. Back to the house of Virgo. This is a Virgo channel only so if you have Virgo Sun, Moon, Rising, or Venus placements you are welcome to listen to this reading or if you're a cross watcher welcome welcome. Okay you guys so let's get into your reading. How is everybody doing? Hope you like the intro. If you want to get a personal reading of course there's always a link in the description box below this video. Also go into my Gumroad account. There is a link underneath where I will provide an extended reading. If I feel the reading, this reading in particular calls for that I will provide a link underneath but I'll let you know as it goes through the reading. Okay please do hit like share and subscribe. Great. They appreciate it. Alright Virgo let's see what's going on in your love life. What are the messages here for you for the month of May? And I'm here every night 10 30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time with your reading. So do you become a member of my channel and join the chat community? Alright you ready? Okay you've got acts, break up separation, stopping the pattern, silent treatment, and abandonment. So okay some stuff going on here. Well I hope you can see it but anyway obviously it's an ax okay. Maybe somebody's giving you the silent treatment or you're feeling abandoned at this time or you're doing that to someone this can go in either direction. Okay stopping some kind of pattern. Oh it's what I feel like it's going on here. Let me see. Okay ascension, transcending obstacles, learning, expansion, new phase preparing for union. Okay so this feels to me like some type of a connection with someone okay that somebody is breaking away from. Stopping some old patterns in former relationships. Like I said it could be a former. It's some type of a relationship not repeating the same pattern, not repeating cycles. Ascending getting over some type of obstacles. Okay for some of you this really could be your energy where you know you're taking a look at your past relationships and finding the common denominator and why maybe things haven't worked out in the past for you and put a little more light here. And I feel like you're breaking some serious maybe ancestral patterns or cycles in your life.  Okay there might have been some abandonment issues or silent treatment. Okay and also it could be somebody else as well going through this process of this phase of development here. Right so there's obviously some type of separation between two people and somebody here it could be both are actually seeking ways to stop some type of recurring cycle in a relationship. Okay let me see. Alright stab to the back heartbreak pain separation deception shocking attack holy what the yesterday's reading was beautiful. Okay overcoming overcoming some again all breakup all separation but there's a new phase that's before you here Virgo and before somebody else that you could be in separation with. I feel like this is a story of two people who really truly love and care about each other. Okay and needed to break up in order to regroup and take a look at the way a relationship went the way it evolved because I feel like two people needed to get out of something because the way it was going before was not progressive it wasn't it wasn't working something here was not working so there is this element here of not talking to each other and not communicating just full stop on some type of relationship learning and expanding and looking at whatever obstacles that kept a relationship from moving forward and like I said there could have been some deception or there could have been some abuse shocking attack okay heartbreak stabbed in the back energy so hmm the most important the key that I see here is that there's ascension there's learning from the past and starting a new phase and preparing to be in a healthy relationship again or to create or cultivate healthy relationships going forward now that could be you not wanting to go back to the past but learning from the past it could also be this person where this relationship is done and lessons have been learned and people are moving for moving on with their lives could also be preparing for a new phase together but we're going to have to see because I'm not I'm not feeling reconciliation right here yeah now if it shows up in the reading then that might be the case but again this is an energy of even if there is a reconciliation which we'll look and see it does not necessarily mean that it's going to be something that can happen if two people are not you know becoming accountable for themselves of their own actions that's not just the other person Virgo that you know has to be you as well okay so let's take a look and see what other messages there are going forward for you this feels like a damn therapy session oh my goodness okay let's take a look what's going on oh look got the devil shadow side people are take somebody's taking a look at their dark dark side the shadow their addictions the toxicity that's within them who is this okay this could be a Capricorn is this you or is this somebody else okay there might have been jealousy and you know that how many deadly sins are there you know jealousy sloth envy you know all of them addictions of some sort obsessions control feeling change manipulation anxiety again abandonment silent treatment of some type of attachment styles not being healthy okay being attached to the devil right let's take a look here facing demons somebody is facing their demons you know and I have to say yeah freeing themselves here's the fool freeing themselves from the chains that this devil energy has on them okay obsession and control I feel like this relationship may have had those elements between two people that toxicity cultivated toxicity to people maybe subconsciously you're not even knowing they were doing it and freeing themselves you know getting out getting away from that having a new face going on a new venture a new beginning having help again somebody here is taking a huge chance this could be recovering from some some kind of an addiction starting over starting from you know the very beginning which is the fool relearning how to be healthy okay let's see what else going on here aquarium energy right there confidence strength becoming more secure okay Leo energy we have three major iconic cards so this is very much a message of like boom yes this is definitely happening this is like universe is coming down and making this happen these aren't when we have major iconic hearts these are not major iconic hearts are this is like spiritual influence you know this is stuff that you know life fate destiny this is not being created by a person place or thing this is like no other choice but to submit to what the universe is bringing before us okay so in some type of relationship that was unhealthy for two people getting out of this seems to be the first step separating from the toxicity is the first step in order to let the fog clear because they feel like there was a relationship in the past where two people nobody understood the other there was a difficulty in trying to understand here where each person was coming from because each person wasn't even sure where they were coming from in some way okay so I feel like with the strength card here this is a message really of like taming the beast okay because we have a lion here the lion is not the king of the jungle lions don't live in the jungle the lion is the king of beasts and this person here is now sitting next to this calm soothing beast okay so this is an energy here where somebody is actually taming that wild side which can come with that devil energy that wild like a wild horse an untamed stallion you know wild and free that too could speak of with this fool card because the addictions were wild and free the toxicity was running wild somebody's taming this energy within themselves all right and this is also you know learning to love the self again self-love unconditional love having self-respect skating back trying to gain back there might have been an energy someone was full of shame that's what the devil card is a sense of shame of the way they behaved in a relationship this fool card makes me feel like it's a clean slate happening here okay look at that three of pentacles now very these could these energies could be reversed and I just want you to know that it doesn't necessarily have to be the other person so you know if you're resonating more with it it could just very well be you hold on I got to change his song because it's creepy hold on my OCD I don't really have OCD but I just like to call it that so the three of pentacles is here basically to say that we're learning some new skills somebody's learning some new skills relationship skills I just feel like somebody's getting some kind of um embarking on a new journey getting some kind of counseling or therapy or just speaking or surrounding themselves with healthier people choosing that soul tribe that is healthier here okay there's a lot of hurt and a lot of pain okay now we have the death card so let's see Capricorn Aquarius Leo and Scorpio Energy so yeah putting death putting the past in the past and starting over somebody's rebuilding reconstructing something here the self I feel like Virgo if this was someone that you were connected with this person had no idea how to be in a relationship I just feel like and I'm not sitting here placing blame I don't want to be blaming because it could have been could have been you as well had a difficult time or maybe just the dynamic of the relationship because it was so unhealthy made it really hard to know how to be healthy in it because was so healthy or so unhealthy okay so I feel like somebody's coming in here with the Knight of Pentacles somebody's offering a cup of love to another person in a nutshell Virgo this just feels to me like somebody is taking a look at their past transgressions their mistakes their sabotaging ways their anxieties and their shame and things like that that kept I mean is this a is this a case of you were dealing with someone who was spiritually disordered who is getting better yeah absolutely and coming in with a love offer here you know I feel like somebody here really does love you or has deep admirable you know affections for you has deep affections for you or just I don't know how deep but definitely has affections for you and wants to try to have some kind of a love thing with you I've loved again off of their cup you know this person is driven by their emotion and their feeling for you feel like somebody here either wants that cup being brought to them or this person wants to bring it all right let's see here and and there is an offer coming in the month of May and I feel like I keep saying that I feel like I keep saying that I just want to bring some clarifying cards let's take a look because we have quite a few I mean the two minor arcana is the three of pentacles in the Knight of Cups so this is telling me that someone is going is really going to be working hard to learn some new skills and even possibly reconstruct this relationship in a different way that's their effort is that equivalent to a bloody song hell yeah and that's their effort that they're bringing in so let's take a look show us spirit this devil card what is the energy here with this devil card there was somebody here who brought like a lot of alcohol into this relationship I don't know how that resonates for you or what that may mean but okay let's see look at that temperance this is getting balanced somebody might have had an imbalance in their moods or their personality in some way temperance is coming in with like a really good disposition that's Sagittarius energy temperance is coming in like balance harmony peace wants to make peace it's making peace with the devil not making a deal with the devil but making peace like kind of saying okay you had me you got me I see it but you're not going to control me anymore somebody was being controlled and therefore they might have been controlling okay or they had that kind of toxicity maybe it was like something in their childhood or something let's get another clarifying card here balance and moderation as well regulating emotions balance and moderation in perhaps drinking or medication getting their medication right I'm just hearing because it's weird I was just looking at that and was seeing like a chemist mixing up the medication somebody might have had an imbalance due to like a mood psychosis or a mood issue due to a bad mix of medication or something along those lines it's kind of specific but let me see here look at that seven of sorts so deception and lies that's all tied up into that okay somebody might have been lying about drug and alcohol addiction or something along those lines here but it definitely feels like this person is freeing themselves they could not balance or moderate or regulate their emotions or activities or things like that and it feels to me like they're back to square one and starting fresh and clean because that's what that fool card means this is a big risk this person's taken a big chance and letting go of past how I want to say this somebody sold their soul to the devil and letting go now for breaking free getting their soul back because that's what the fool is the fool is like the fool is like the embryo before it becomes a full you know flesh baby if the if the fool has all of the soul in it before the baby's even born you know that's where life really begins there that's when all the ingredients start coming together okay so with the fool card that's like it's a zero it's the oh which is like the embryo it's the beginning the alpha the Omega it's the beginning I think I said that right or the Omega is it the Omega all right let me take a look at the fool here yep here you go travel travel freeing themselves separating themselves for going on this new adventure with the eight of cups separating themselves from this this struggle maybe it was a person they were in a toxic relationship in the past that they couldn't get out of and something wasn't going forward with you because there was some type of interference that's why we have heart break deception stabbed in the back maybe finding out some shocking news having to break up somebody might have been giving you silent treatment or abandoning you because there was somebody else some of you just decided to stop the pattern stop the cycle and just walk away learning from this like I said transcending this this is a major obstacle we have a knife and an axe I mean and then getting away from that with the ascension floating away with the balloons you know I mean it's so clear what was going on here well almost clear let me see the strength card okay King of Cups Cancer Scorpio Pisces generally Pisces but it's water element is someone that's very intuitive but very could be very emotional and quite moody they are so moody water signs very affected by the moods they're very sensitive they feel things extreme to the depths that most signs can't get to you know most other signs can't get to they they're like hypersensitive they're very raw with their emotions and very reactive internally like it really just depends I mean if you've got if it's a cancer water sign it doesn't matter if it's a son that's their son it's just that if they have that cancer energy with the moves because we're talking about the emotions very very sensitive all three water signs very sensitive it's cancer it's a little more of displayed in sometimes more sarcastic comments or digs and things like that can be kind of harsh at times if it's Pisces Pisces can be quite passive depending on if they're a shark or a goldfish but with their emotions they can be kind of passive with their emotions even if they're aggressive in other ways and if it's a Scorpio generally very supportive but withholds real deep down and doesn't ever they're mostly the time wearing a poker face so you wouldn't really even know what they're feeling but whatever it is I feel like courage to this person's gaining the confidence and courage to appreciate and love who they are in a healthy way rather than it could have been someone who was loving themselves in a very narcissistic way you know giving themselves false love out of insecurity rather than just accepting who they are okay let me see here so you could have been dealing with someone who had water in their chart somewhere okay what is this courage this person is coming to this place here in May where they're needing to make this decision they have a decision that they have to make okay now that they're gaining the strength and the courage whatever your person sign is now that they're gaining the strength and the courage to love themselves and put this past stuff behind them now they're at a crossroad now they have to make a decision do they compromise and try to come forward which we do feel like is happening here and try to set a relationship straight I feel like that's where they're at I'm not telling you where you're at I'm not telling you what you should do we're just taking a look at this person so they're kind of withdrawn still even though they go through this process of healing they're still kind of withdrawn because they're trying to decide on their own based on you know their intuition their emotions their feelings about what they want to do and if they can do that and as we saw that's leading them to make a decision here to try to learn how to be healthy and in a healthy relationship okay so this is where this person is at let's just take a look at death page of once in the reverse all right so I have to say this okay I feel like in the past somebody here had an incredible crazy crush that's a lot of seas incredible crazy crush on somebody couldn't even see that person for who they were was just so crush crush energy can be very lustful fiery immature if it's it feels like to me that a relationship stayed that way that it never progressed in a never matured right it's it feels to me like a relationship this relationship in the past became very toxic because it was very immature you know it's a started out maybe it's like an attraction a lustful fiery kind of attraction but it never really matured and then jealousy took over and then addiction I'm I'm I'm I'm seeing the video a song by Eminem and Rianne Rianna and I forget the name of the song where they were in a very unhealthy a very toxic relationship it's kind of like it feels like that's kind of how it went and I don't know if this is going to resonate for you you're listening to this but with the page of once in the reverse that's definitely showing me here there was an immaturity breaking up over immature behavior over dependence could have been codependency in a lot of ways it kind of like oh someone just weak weak very weak struggling okay someone who would struggle a lot couldn't like a relationship go a lot of back and forth in and out kind of energy very unhealthy stuff so I feel like as that sits there on that death card that is death to the immaturity growing up that really is what that is this is just gross or growing up I know somebody here might have said to your person oh grow up just grow up already I know some of you either were thinking that or you said that to somebody and you know what I feel like this person took that to heart you know then they're done with their childhood they're done with their acting out immaturity acting out in immature ways it's putting an end to that here okay because death I'm sorry yeah death it's interesting this is like ending and moving forward transforming you know like a child transforms into an adult so basically somebody here was very immature acted like a child didn't remember I said I think in the beginning just didn't know how to be in a relationship and is here you go school is going back to school like okay what do I got to do I think I need to study I think it because it's not you know I do feel like somebody here really does have love for you but is very immature love that's that's the message I'm getting is very immature love because person didn't know how to love themselves okay this person did not know how to love themselves let's take a look at your energy to see what you have going on so I'm definitely feeling like you know page of cups energy is not here it it's in the background the page of cups energy basically is volunteering their love thinking about love I feel like you're this person is coming in here with the night of cups to try to you know make amends or offer their cup of love have a new start then coming into telling telling you with the one cup here is similar to the ace of cups bringing in this you know proposal marriage let's start again can we try again try to fix something here all right telling you that they've grown up or they've changed apologizing for you know their discretions in the past which is nice okay but let's take a look at you see what your energy is a little bit okay Virgo what is Virgo's energy with this situation okay Virgo you have the eight of cups in the reverse so it feels to me like you have to tell you this is reconciliation okay you will go back and you're learning from the past as well and you will either return home to this person or you will you know this is a choice that you will make though right either way this is not a vice card the minor conna can be switched it can be changed okay so just remember that but what I'm seeing here is you might return home to this person and give it another chance because it seems like they're coming in with honesty and sincerity and I feel like they're gonna try to do something differently here with you okay so for some of you I know it's not all but this is like you'll see that this person has fully learned from their past mistakes okay now if this is now listen it really just depends though I I am not telling you that if you if somebody cheated on you ten times and now they want another chance that you should take them take them back I mean you have to make your decision here and I have a legal disclaimer not to be used to make major life decisions it's only for guidance for you to think about things about what you you know your decisions that you make okay it doesn't matter when anybody else does it matters what you're doing for you but making a conscious decision and I feel like the opportunity is gonna rise here for you where you know you're gonna allow someone to come back to you you may not go back to them but you may allow them to come back in to see if they've learned from the past fully learned okay so you've got the nine of wands in the reverse here isolation is ending okay you're getting your faith back you might be a little defensive still which I mean if you were in a difficult relationship of course you would right hold on yeah so if you were in something difficult yeah you might have your defenses up you might have your dukes up a little bit here still can't deny that but I feel like you might allow somebody come back in to try to explain themselves or you know something along those lines here okay I feel like you're you still want to have faith it's hard for you to be without this person but at the same time it's freeing and you're you're probably happy and joyous okay now somebody left a comment that said they're tired of hearing from the about the past person so I don't know who it was and I'm not going to say any names but I have one message for you click off my channel if you don't like it okay because sometimes you know relationships are relationships and not every message is for you and if you want to come in and comment every single time that you don't you're sick and tired of hearing then all you're doing is complaining nobody's nobody's forcing you to stay just click off the video okay because it's selfish there's some people in here that want to heal their past relationship so let's not be all about ourselves every two minutes here and people who leave me those comments I delete them from my channel I don't need them so if you don't want to be here just let me know I'll help you out so let's take a look here okay so get to 10-1 so Virgo this is an energy of you know you you definitely are carrying a lot of burdens on your shoulder here you've got you're exhausted you're just stressed some of you are just definitely stressed about if this person comes back in you kind of want to hear what they have to say if they're coming in with their bloody stumps and they're doing all that yeah part of you is like yeah okay but at the same time Virgo it feels to me like you're kind of like just you don't have the energy you don't have the full amount of energy you're not going to put any energy into this you don't even look your hands are taught you're not free okay you've already got enough on your plate I don't see you letting somebody back and then doing all the work I don't I feel like the burden of proof lies on this person now and I feel like you're gonna allow that you're gonna you're gonna allow them to come in and you know you're gonna how can I say this you're not gonna chase after to get answers you're gonna allow them to come in and give you answers and then when that happens and you you get a sense that okay this person's really sincere and they really want to try to work things out and I think you might open up a little bit and and start you know talking about your stuff with them you know a little bit of dialogue it's not you have to come back and admit all your faults and everything you've done wrong in order to pass my tests and I don't have to do anything it doesn't work that way was reciprocity is constantly at working exchanging of energy you know because Virgo even if somebody was abusive to you and they were in the wrong and the relationship went on for a long time like that you might feel at times well it's not your you know you're not at fault but in some ways you know there's this thing that we have in as real estate or broker realtors brokers that there's um there's a thing called negligence that you can be accountable for negligence just like with children you may not some people may not hit their children but they they purposely stop feeding them or they run away passive passive behavior can be very I guess I want to say abusive in some ways not dealing with things right so in some ways Virgo maybe there's a question for you is like okay this person was treating me badly but why did I stay for so long what was going on within me that I was allowing this to continue why was I trying to fix everything why was I trying to get this person to change why was I thinking that I had that kind of power what was going on with me and was I being manipulated and when I realized that this toxic relationship was doing this to me if I didn't leave then what was going on it's all about discovery so it's questioning what was going on with me that kept me staying in this connection for so long right it doesn't mean I feel like really what I feel like is um two people here came together and they came in this way and because of the connection repelled one another yet kept coming back to each other run or chase or stuff but at the same time there's this like opening and a realization there's a sentient as happening here and it all has to do with growth and maturity it really is what I feel like so I don't see you really yeah see you're pretty much Virgo if this person's coming back you know to make amends or try to work something out yet you're kind of like you're gonna be hiding a little bit I mean you'll have your ear like if this person knocks at the door you're gonna have the door chained but you'll open it just a tiny little bit so that like your eyeball pops out you're like yeah looking at him through the crack of the door you know like this guy holding he's looking at him through the cracks here yeah you don't you're not open in that door all the way and you know I feel like you're gonna kind of do the seven of swords of just you know picking up your sticks and like just ignoring and kind of running away a little bit because you don't really want the confrontation you don't want to deal too much with anything part so you're kind of on the fence here is what I see right like you want this person to make these big changes but at the same time you also want to run away you don't you like you'll give them just a tiny little bit to connect with you and then you're gone and then if they try to connect with you again you're gonna give a teeny little bit they're the ones who are gonna be it seems like coming after you and you're not gonna be chasing because there's a lack of some trust here with the seven of swords your person has it here it's over here there's two people who really you know deception or have a difficult time trusting each other okay so if anything Virgo you're gonna give very little okay reciprocity like I said and I was talking about if you tend to be passive or run away you know that's how you are giving in the relationship now at this time I don't I don't think runner chaser relationships are healthy and I would never encourage them I think it's best to just be secure and talk about how you feel express how you feel and then try to drum up some dialogue and solve some problems or resolve issues and then if you know people can't resolve them then you know it may not be there's nothing you can do really and just say okay we we can agree to disagree and leave it alone but then if needs aren't getting met then it's not a healthy relationship right so you might just give very little to this person and then make a decision that you're going to dip out after a little bit but are you really dealing with your emotions there like I said some of you might be getting a little bit counseling or you're doing some therapeutic work or mental wellness or spiritual healing which is great and there's some stuff here obviously if you've been in a long-term relationship that was unhealthy it's gonna have an effect on you so there's stuff here that you might need to take a look at you know and I feel like you're going to right okay I do feel like though in there's so you're conflicted I see a lot of conflicted energy here with you you know you open the door just to crack but you got high high boundaries up you'll give just a little and then you run away but yet you're open for the opportunity because you really love this person they really love you and you both really want it it's just your tiptoeing around each other I see not being sure it's kind of like okay eggshells I'm picking up like eggshells you know this could be like an eggshell here you know handing over the egg like you could be giving out eggshells you could be worried this person's gonna you know get you feeling like you're walking on eggshells there's a lot of high sense hypersensitivity going on here and you have no major arcana Virgo so this tells me you can do something about this here what's happening to this person this is not a decision they're making life is making it for them so it's the the honest really is on you how you're going to handle the situation you know if this person's coming back you know you can turn these cars around the major arcanas cannot be turned around the only decision this person really is making is to come towards you and offer love again and also they're making a decision here to get some type of schooling or training of some sort to help them not to be help to help them be healthy but for you I feel like your stuff here is like you can turn these cards around and make a decision either way what you want to do but I see you kind of on the fence I see you a little conflicted one minute you're yes then you know you know see a little bit fickle about it let's see if any more major arcanas show up now see you've got the night of cups in the reverse you think this person is an emotional manipulator or a player but you're also you're questioning that as well I feel like if you're going through some maybe if you're getting some mental wellness of spiritual counseling you might be seeing the situation a little bit differently because the the hangman is definitely spiritual counseling like that's that's a spiritual card no doubt gaining a new perspective in what you may have thought about this person there is an energy here where I feel like you're you're there's something going on here where you're gonna be saying me this person really wasn't what I thought they were maybe they really weren't such a jerk maybe they really just had severe problems or they had like you know addiction maybe they weren't trying to hurt me but I got hurt on the sidelines because of their actions and the things that they chose to do okay that doesn't mean that your person is should not be held accountable for the things that happen to you of course they should and I feel like this is what's going on this person is 100% seeking accountability and I feel like they're gonna come in and say yeah even though I may have been maybe I blacked out from drinking or I was on a binge and drug use or whatever that doesn't negate the things that I did to you right so you know I love it when people who get clean from alcohol and drug addiction or whatever and they turn around and they say well I was sick so it wasn't my fault and I'm just like the hell it wasn't your fault you you you you you're gonna go to jail if you're drunk driving and you kill somebody you can't say well I was blacked out it wasn't my fault it was your fault yeah so I feel like there's gonna be something here where this person is gonna come in and take accountability and rather than use an excuse for why for why you got hurt rather than them saying to you I'm sorry you got hurt it's gonna be I'm sorry that I was the direct cause or the indirect cause of your pain I'm sorry because it was because of me no matter how far apart or how direct it's because of me that you were hurt and I feel like you're gonna see something a little bit different about this person it's not just gonna be lip service it's in the way they say they're sorry like they don't just say I'm sorry they say why they're sorry and then they go into long detail diatribe about why they're sorry that's gonna be a big shift that a big change for you look at that you've got the six of ones and the eight of one so I feel like that's what you need even if it's just to move on and not reconcile with this person and just get your victory so that you can be free right here with the eight of ones and to have a new phase or prepare yourself for a new union some of you just need that in order to move forward and walk away with your head held high because this person's actions in the past may have left you feeling like it was all your fault okay and I don't know who I'm speaking to there but somebody needed to hear that okay yeah look nine of cups so I feel like you're gonna get your wishes so to speak you're gonna be able to indulge in some kind of victory because I do feel like you know even if this situation does not turn out to be a reconciliation there's going to be it's going to get resolved one way or the other and it's going to release both of you to either have a new chapter together and start fresh and clean slate or to shake hands with each other the best and move on with your lives and find new love okay either way for you Virgo and this is your reading it's a win-win for you and even if this person does not come forward to apologize you're gonna know you're gonna find out in the month of May it's gonna come to you okay somehow you're gonna get wind of some major changes and things that where you're gonna realize that it wasn't I'm just hearing this wasn't all you but you will take accountability for your own actions right and please know I'm not passing judgment or being harsh I just I'm a firm believer in truth and that's the Virgo in me and I'm a firm believer in self-effacing and self-awareness you know not having a well-balanced look at things not just saying oh it's all my fault and not or not just saying oh it's none of my fault but saying yeah I might have contributed there let me take a look and see how maybe I did and let's let's go in a discovery let's see what can I improve that's a Virgo trait Virgos always want to improve if they wouldn't if they're not improving other people they're improving themselves right either through health mental health physical fitness hygiene you know career they're always trying to just increase increase do better do better okay yep you've got release your ex there you go the time has come to clear your energy so your so I feel like even still I have to tell you this is definitely about your ex even still you and your ex are not on you're never gonna be on the same page ever ever that's what I feel like the outcome and the whole situation I will go into the extended though to see the full outcome of how things could change and go but I feel like here when you wanted to be with this person they weren't available and now they're getting themselves right and they're coming in and now you're kind of like I don't know you know I feel like your message here is you got a release you guys might just be on different timelines that's what I think is going on here you're in you're in different timelines that's why really can never come together you were in different places it's like two people who are right for each other good for each you know meant for each other but just in different worlds or in different timelines just wasn't not I don't know we'll look and see if your timelines are gonna match up going forward in the extended the link will be below the video because now I'm just curious if your timelines are gonna match up okay let go of control issues Virgo allow the situation to unfold naturally so I definitely feel like you know whatever you're holding on to whatever you have left your home let go let it go just let things go let it all evolve the way it's meant to Virgo just let it evolve okay attraction you track romantic love let go and just enjoy your life enjoy this moment fully whatever you're doing in your life you know whatever you have going on enjoy being mindful and present pay attention to your cat spend some time with your kids go feed your goldfish put a little water in that flower garden because your flowers might be dying you know go to the beach go say hi to the dolphins you know spend a little time with yourself enjoying your life the little things smelling those roses that you walk by when you go on your walks take that time to smell them go have like um just see go into a coffee shop in order a real real tasty treat and just let your palate dictate that feel like get into your senses you know enjoying the moment be be present all right let's say oh man you guys this card comes up every single time so obviously the month of May is screaming change and saying that it I feel like May's readings have just been screaming change your surroundings will undergo transition things are changing winds of change it's coming as is it's always expected change is permanent it's always expected okay you have the black cat your luck will soon change as well wow that's great your luck will change whatever you feel like it may have been things didn't feel like they were in your favor all the wheel is turning here good fortune that you're coming through a turning point here things are going to start changing if you're gambling yeah you might win some money okay you've got the gate again a barrier keeps you from your goals so pay attention to your blockages and your barriers and you have love true love and fidelity okay so that's coming to you as well fidelity commitment honor integrity okay true feelings are mass the harlot when I feel like that was yesterday as well in yesterday's reading that's a little bit of a reminder that somebody was hiding their true feelings for you and they're going to come out with them and reveal how they really feel about you their love feelings okay and you have the king authority and diplomacy that's Aries energy is right there a hundred percent okay the emperor emperor energy male or female respect leadership strategic planning and a father figure okay so that might resonate for you okay and you have the golem a close friend acts on your behalf wow okay you've got someone speaking up for you you have some someone on your side right now is going to act on your behalf for something in the month of May okay could be a court saying you're dealing with or could be family issues romance issues it could also be counselor there's just another party that's as someone that that's close to you is going to give a character reference they're going to act on your behalf whatever your maybe you choose a representative to help you through or help you with some something and somebody's going to come in and you know stand by your side I just heard that what's that song that's the song all right let's take a look I want to see what Chinese signs we have here okay now just so you know I'm just a little caveat this could be a family member that we're talking about this could be an ex-spouse lover this could be a friend this could be somebody that you worked with so let's keep that in mind here okay okay so year of the ox year of the dragon now could be your Chinese their Chinese both of both of you year of the snake year of the rat year of the pig year of the monkey year of the rabbit we have monkey twice and year of the tiger okay so if that doesn't resonate for you it doesn't mean it's not your reading okay all right let me see how much time we left let's get into I think we're gonna do I'm gonna get into your numbers and your charms you guys don't forget yeah there'll be an extended reading after this we're gonna see if your timelines are gonna come together and don't forget I have an e-book there's a link underneath this video 11 signs you're in a twin flame relationship go over to that link and pay for the e-book it's very inexpensive and you could download it right it's a PDF file okay all right somebody's dealing with a Leo a Capricorn here's Sagittarius or it's Leo or Capricorn rising hearing oh there's a Ching somebody just bought one of my books how about that okay or they bought one of my extended there's good so we have August 4th 8th 3rd 12th okay somebody's 43 somebody was born or significant year 1988 1983 1984 okay and we also have the number 9 the 9th all righty okay so Pisces Aries Aries twice here and Taurus of course so the number 512 okay we have October 2nd May 12th somebody's born in 69 okay we have 11 11 very special day special number or time you might be seeing 11 11 a lot and we also have somebody's born in 1973 okay oh and I also saw cancer sign of cancer all right yep Leo Taurus Capricorn cancer what the heck is going on sometimes the same sign show up often okay so we have the age 51 age 55 1994 important year 95 as well 1995 and let's see somebody was born on the 21st and also the 12th okay let me see here we have August 24th birthday August 29th birthday September 15th okay 23rd the 26th August 26th I'm picking up a Libra as well and so here's some special dates June 14th April 5th September 12th March 4th somebody was born September 1969 okay and somebody is 46 all right let's get some charm see what your message is here all right so we have a unicorn and a Mickey Mouse key somebody go into Disney okay Mickey Mouse key for sure you're getting the key to your little resort there in Disney okay so we have pink clouds pink cloud isn't a saw or is that pink houses I'm so old now something to do with a pink cloud okay and we have a dragonfly and also a white dove with a four-leaf clover white dove with a four-leaf clover I swear somebody's going to Disney or they have somebody has like a Disney keychain Mickey Mouse and it feels like a Mickey Mouse maybe somebody's name is Mickey or Michael as well but it feels like it's like a Mickey Mouse something it doesn't have to be a key the Mickey Mouse something and also this white unicorn with purple mean it's very pretty it's very childlike a little girl that move a little girl that has a little stuffed unicorn with you oh wait okay something weird's coming through there's okay they just they said not unicorn they said it's Unicode is that a thing Unicode UNI CODE Unicode Unicode okay I'm leaving that there I don't even know what that means okay I guess like code is it a computer thing Unicode or something all right this dragonfly so I'm just seeing this dragonfly thing in a garden okay in a garden with like a little crystal ball of some sort attached to it somebody somebody has this in their garden now the pink cloud thing they're just saying it's it's a pale pink so if you see pale pink clouds maybe it's sunset or or in a dawn maybe somebody's dawn pink clouds represent something that just means that this is your reading if you and if you don't see it doesn't mean it's not your reading but somebody sees like a pink cloud sunset or just saw one or is going to be seeing one or might even see it like in a day or two and then remember this reading come back and listen because this is your message here okay and also this dove of peace with this carrying this they're saying peace and luck and good fortune is coming to you but this four-leaf clover now I know the shamrock is about the trinity but the four-leaf clover I should know this because I'm basically from Ireland I should know this but I can't remember what the four petals of a four-leaf clover mean something I don't remember so if anybody knows I mean I'll Google it with them done here but I can't remember but it means something and there's something here about bringing peace this this dove of peace I'm gonna get one more because I'm just curious oh okay now we have a black cat interesting they're saying look at this message again there you go the black cat your luck will change soon okay something's changing in your life that's what that black hat there they're seeing and I'm gonna put that right there on the black hat because that's what they're saying here your luck is going to be changing and then they're just giving me the goddess Isis IS IS the goddess Isis and I'm not sure what relates to that but they just told me that so I don't know if you have to look that up I don't know what that means I guess that was an Egyptian god Isis so there's something about that it's no it's not the terrorist group Isis if you don't if you've never heard of it please we're not doing that here all right you guys so I'm gonna leave your message remember there'll be an extended reading here to see if you and this person will ever get on the same timeline like I was talking about the link will be in the description box below and I will leave your message here and I will see you all tomorrow okay have a great night


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Aloha, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to Figments, The Power of Imagination. I'm really excited about today's episode, but I'm always excited. This one in particular, because we have an interesting story and a very important topic and the blend of both is going to be good. I'll remind you that we are here to both entertain and inspire on Figments, The Power of Imagination. That's the idea. And today we're going to inspire you about imagining a safer world and playing defense on a global scale. You'll get the defense football, it is playoff season, national championship season tonight. And you'll get that inference in a bit. First, I want to give you a little look back if you missed my show last week on Figments and tell you something that we're going to do here. 35 episodes in our inaugural year, about as many viewers as half a cat video, but they're available on Spotify, iTunes, and also of course on YouTube and Think Tech Hawaii. And I hope if you find something you like, like today's episode, you'll share it. So today I have a guy that I don't really know, but he's becoming a friend. And in my mind, I hope he agrees. And I'm interested in him because his story is unique and remarkable, but what he does now is highly important and that interests me even more. So I'd like to welcome from Alexandria, Virginia, Ricky Ellison, Ricky Aloha, brother. Aloha. Aloha, thank you. And thanks for being on. It's evening there and you're at work in your office with a great background. We're going to talk more about that later. But what interested me first is your immigrant story, great and important to the U.S. always because we're a nation of immigrants.  Eight. In 19... What do you remember of that transition? Well, my first port of entry was Honolulu. So that was back then it was open air. Yeah. 1907 and then I moved to, we went to South Pasina, LA. So it's quite a shock of culture for me as a child going to a private school in Christchurch, New Zealand and some schooling all on par Malaysia to come into the big America. And it was America was at its prime, I think back then. And so you came here, you come from a family of distinction, both in sports.  Tell the audience a little bit about the sports history and then the personal accomplishments of your family which feed into what you do now and your obligation to live up to the lineage, if you will. Well, my grandfather and my grandfather's brother, Thomas Ellison was the first all black captain of the New Zealand all blacks back in the 1880s. I wasn't even born here. Very prominent first rugby tour. He wrote the book on rugby. It was one of the heroes of the early game. His father, my great grandfather was also a very famous New Zealander. He found the most gold in the history of New Zealand at the Shotover River and the Gold Rush. Wow. He was able to finance my grandfather into the bus Maori school in New Zealand, Tanute. The great, great grandfather was the chief of the Nahi Tahu tribe, which is the tribe of the South Island. And was in its ability to protect and defend it from the Northern tribes in the Maori Wars back. And those days, if you're beaten you're beaten. So we certainly weren't eaten. And yeah, both are bad. Beating is bad, eating is worse. And isn't that Thai from, because I gave you a little grief about wearing a tie, we don't do much of that. Oh, I, from that Tanute. Yeah, I've got it, Tanato College in North Island. It was founded in the 1800s, late 1800s. And my grandparents and my grandparent brother went to school there. The Marae, the village that we come from is in Dunedin, Otakao in the South Island. I was part of the whaling community in the early 1800s. In fact, late 1700s. And back then, my great, great grandfather married into the Australian, or, excuse me, the English whalers, create that synergy of technology between the two civilizations. And they weren't just athletes. They weren't just captain of the all blacks. I think you have a long history of accomplishment in your family beyond sports. Certainly. It's my breath. Excuse me, my grandfather was one of the first Marae doctors. And he ended up for the King of England, serving as a South Pacific doctor during the 30s and 20s. He received the knighthood, the Order of the British Empire for his service and what he did there. So he's pretty strong. My uncle, his firstborn son, Ricky, also known as Named After, was the chief of the South Island as well. So there's a lot of us in here.   I want to America to get away from it, yeah. Yeah, well, but that follows you, family follows you. And I kind of got chicken skin with the, as we say in Hawaii, with the island connection, the Polynesian connection to this island as part of America, but part of Polynesia. It's a powerful thing. The story says that we all came from Hawaii, all the Polynesian people. We were the smaller tribe of the group and we kept on getting pushed off the main island and we ended up all the way over in Kauai. And then we apparently ate the king's dog one time and he passed from the island. So we got, I can see why they, that would happen. And by the way, the New Zealand Maori, that we all have to belong to one of seven canoes that have come from Hawaii. And those carvings aren't on our rise. So you have to trace back your lineage to one of the seven canoes coming from Hawaii.  That is your, your monosign because that's what your survival tool was to get through that journey. So we are tied to Hawaii, no question. I've got a carving of one of those fish hooks down in downstairs in the, what we call the Rincon Chilena, the chili corner, but it's also got some Polynesia there where our dog lives, our brand new puppy. So the eating the king's dog thing is, I'm a little triggered, but I'll be fine with it. Why am I talking about sports folks? I'm talking about sports because Ricky Ellison who came here as an immigrant went to high school then went to college, he's a little bit of a football player. Ricky excelled, I imagine in high school to get to USC and then play nine years in the NFL for the 49ers and Raiders, which there you are in the 49ers. I gotta ask you, is that a face mask or not, lag or not? That's an object between me and the ball carrier. I played middle linebacker. The wolves told me they're all faceless nameless object between you and the ball carrier. That is, Zicky Woods, that is in one of the Super Bowls I played in. I obviously won that game. Obviously, obviously, and this had to be right weekend because you played for the 49ers, then the Raiders, they both won in overtime to get in. And I noticed your Facebook posts match what you told me about my Green Bay Packers. When we spoke earlier, you said, I don't think I ever lost to the Green Bay Packers. And in your Facebook post said, I don't think I ever lost to the Rams or to the Chargers. On the Dallas Cowboys and many teams when we play. Yeah, as far as I can tell, you never lost, which is a good thing, because beating is eating. Those were great memories. Those are great games that were played yesterday against great rivals. Those are the rivals, right? Yeah, absolutely. In San Francisco, and we dominated that series. The same with the Raiders and the Chargers, we dominated that series. But it's also just the grit, you know, and this is playoff season. So it brought back some great memories of playing for both those clubs and just being part of something that's a cultural generational about winning. Yeah, and for the Packers, it's the Bears, most, for most, even though the game has been evolved. Again, this somebody played the game a different way. Bill Walsh played the game a completely different way. So the game has completely evolved. I think you do have a good shot. I'll give you a good shot. You have home field of advantage as we have some of those first three balls, because it's so cold. So I think that's there. But the sophistication of the game, I think Bill Walsh is probably the leader if you look at the history of our game on innovation of this game. And you've seen a lot of it still today. And I could, I'd like to reserve you to my daughter and her family live in Alexandria. So someday over a beverage when I'm visiting, I'd love to talk football for about 23, 24 hours, if we're good. If you look at the next picture, you were reasonably successful as a football player. Can you tell me I'm missing two rings in this picture? This there's a national championship, two rose balls, three Super Bowls, that's a pretty good career. I'm just saying. I've been very fortunate to have been on championship teams all my life. I started in Arizona in a very small school, played Indian reservations, played in the state of Arizona, won the state championship there with one of the winningest coaches ever in the history of the state of Arizona and got recruited and went to USC and won there with one of the greatest football teams I've ever played on with four NFL Hall of Famers and four of us going in the NFL. And then got the opportunity to play for Bill Walls and Eddie Barlow and Samson Kefor and Iher. So it's been a treat to see different ways to win, basically different cultures to win different types of ways of winning but winning no matter what. And those are representations of the teams that I was on that made this very special full of diversity, full of trust, full of invincibility that we've conquered whoever we faced, whatever the weather was, whatever the calls were, whatever anything was, we were gonna win. Just, and Vince Lombardi, of course, since I grew up outside of Green Bay in his era was a great champion of mine because he had winning football teams but also his view on diversity influenced me greatly and that's another topic that he brought a lot of African American. Go ahead. But I think as you start in America, you come from a neighborhood. So the diversity in your own neighborhood and I came from a Mexican American kind of neighborhood where it was Mexican and white that was brought down Tucson. And then you go to college and now you have the diversity of an entire state and that was phenomenal. Then you go to the NFL, then you have the diversity of the entire country. So it is guys that have got college degrees and lawyers like Steve Young all the way down and guys don't have eighth grade education in one room. So to be able to bring the trust from each of those different types of backgrounds to put forward in a unique environment. That's what a great head coach does. That's what a great CEO does. The best in the world do that to be able to draw that out of each of them, to be able to play for your other teammates and give it full go of your own individual talent that you only have.  I mean, Joe Montana's a remarkable player that can rise to occasions. And again, it's about decision making, right? It's about making the right decision at the right time under extreme pressure for the right and how many people can do that? Well, and we're going to talk about an area where that decision making is probably more complex and time constrained than any other in a second. Boy, I wish I had hours and hours to talk to you Ricky because you've got not just a story but a perspective that I think is very valuable. So I have to ask you what your best football moment was you only get one, only one. Well, I think it was the 1984 Super Bowl. Ronald Reagan made the point toss. We were playing in Palo Alto in our home stadium. Apple came out as the product for the first time. We played against Miami Dan Marino. It was foggy, the game was over before it started. That was the most powerful experience to be on that field and feel the invincibility that we knew as a unit, as a team that was unbelievable. So it didn't matter and we knew it. And it was just a remarkable accumulation to win it right there in San Francisco at the peak in San Francisco was struggling as a city as you might know, rejuvenating the whole Silicon Valley. The whole thing was behind us. It was a special moment. Oh, again, I wish we'd gone, but we can't. So let me take a breath here and talk about my next figments of our imagination. Everybody's favorite show. And next week, or in two weeks, I'm gonna have Dr. Oriana Schuyler-Mastrow who I met at a conference when she was just a PhD candidate at Princeton. She is the best China expert in America. I believe this. She's also an Air Force Reserve major and she has a remarkable story about her journey to become a key influencer on matters regarding China. All right, gosh darn it. Where do I start now?  And you've had more than that than they can Google and find out your age. But one of the things that you care most about is the Youth Impact Program, and I'm gonna read this. It's for disadvantaged and at-risk adolescent boys in US inner cities. And rather than having you tell me more about what they do, people look it up, donate. That's not your background. You had a pretty solid foundation underneath you. What made you want to give to at-risk youth? Because it's the American dream. I've lived a dream. I'm gonna give the dream. It is, you can do anything in the world in America. And the people that can do the best dreaming and make it happen are the disadvantaged, are minorities, or are the hard grit, or grits as you see rise to be able, so to be able to give that opportunity. And I've been around it when locker rooms. I've been around it, but to bring that dream, and I think that age group between sixth, seventh, and eighth grade, year olds, that is the time print to associate them with winners, to provide them access into major universities and be able to dream big and be big and see it and fall in love with it. So fall in love with one of the many schools in college, the athletics and make your dreams happen and believe in it. And we create two weeks of mentorship that creates trust with diversity. And we're all about social change. We have made social change. I've been in 39 inner cities of this country with our major universities, including West Point, Michigan, Stanford, USC, Hawaii, Utah. We've been there, right? And we've done this before it was a hot topic. We've been in this since 2006, and I started it in LA, South Central LA to break it out. And yes, it's important to me. I believe in it and we've had great success with it. We've increased grade point averages, we've seen career path change, we've seen direction change from that age group and those circumstances to go out. So I'm with you, man, as you probably know, if you know my background and I know you do, because social change is not anti-American. It's very patriotic, making our country better. How about it's American? It's American and getting people invested in our country instead of attending our country, if you will, is so important. My steps on an immigrant from Chile started at the University of Hawaii today. Awesome. Finally, with all the COVID stuff, but it's been very interesting over the year he's lived in the US watching him and I don't want to speak for him because he'll kick my butt if I do, but watching him internalize the American dream and in the nature of our country. And again, I don't want to speak for him, but I've watched him get it. And I think he's got it. Now he heads off to university and he'll succeed, but we need everybody of every color to have the sense that based on what they do, they can succeed. So, yeah, it's awesome. I was going to ask you, okay, I'm going to scratch through my next question because you are a bit of a legend in New Zealand, maybe a lot of a legend with your status as the first New Zealander ever to play in the NFL and all your rings and stuff. And I was going to ask you, why do you care so much about the defense, the United States of America, but I think you've already said it. You've lived the American dream. I've lived the American dream. I grew up on a cowboy ranch with Sherman Tank Commander for General Patton and 22nd recon. So that was my guide era. I've grown up with artillery soldiers that fought in NAM. I've been around military leaders. I know the dream. I'm aware of the dream. So there's no question how important it is to be able to preserve our status quo, to be able to preserve our freedoms, to be able to preserve our democracies and be able to have the strength through peace to do that. And the avenue you chose, and I don't even think we're going to talk about your early, have time to talk about your early connections to missile defense because right before you graduated from USC, President Reagan gave his STI speech. If I got that right, if I got the sequence. Well, I was at USC with President Reagan's National Security Advisor and the critical thinking with Dan Teller, Edward Teller, that created the concept of having a defense instead of having mutual assured offense that we live by mutual assured destruction. So that was part of that. Keyword destruction. Reagan went to Shyamantan and asked where that was. That was 1980. I was in that group and that I fell in love with the concept that we have to defend ourselves from the world's greatest, powerful, most destructive weapons. And why would we not have capability against that for accidental, for as we see today, it proliferating into countries like North Korea, Iran, and so forth. And we're seeing that now evolve into hypersonic strike in China and Russia. And we're seeing it as the weapon of choice with Iran into US bases in Iraq. We've seen that. We saw this last week with different types of missiles, UAVs, rockets. It is the poor man's air force. It is prolific. And we have to beat the cost curve on it. And we have to be able to defend ourselves else we do not have any deterrent. We have to have integrated deterrent, which means offense and defense, not all offense. Like we were growing up in the 50s and 60s. That day is over. And we are now evolving into a combination of integrated deterrent to do everything we can to defend ourselves. And you get maneuvering forces both across our whole joint force that don't have defenses. You cannot get into the rings of China or Russia without having to defend those maneuvering forces. Also, those forces don't mean anything. So let me take the devil's advocacy alliance perspective, if you will, and say, well, this Cold War thinking, we're never really going to go to war with China or Russia. Come on, man. What do you say to that? Well, it's just the possibility of a big conflict. Well, let's just start even go with a big conflict. Let's start with a little conflict. Iran's been striking our bases. Iran's been striking Israel with missiles. We've been doing our own bases in aspect of it. And they're doing it because we don't have the defenses up there to do that. We are seeing a change of world status power. You're seeing China tell you right in from the president right up to the top that they are changing the status quo of this world by 2050. They are over matching in the Pacific, in the first island chain, in the second island chain, with ballistic missile capability and hypersonic capability by the numbers. They are ahead of us in hypersonic. Yeah. So you're either going to have to pull by them or you're going to be Hong Kong. You're going to have to be able to defend that capability with an offense to create a deterrent that we don't have right now as they move through the South China Sea and do what they're doing, not listing international law or order. So we have an issue. This is not the Middle East. This is not the fight. This is the bigger fight for our country and for our nation and for the world. So I'm going to dissect two parts of that. One is this is not the Middle East. It's a much more sophisticated threat, a much more difficult problem in a much bigger space.  The scale matters and the technology matters. And China's technology is very significant. And the second thing is the notion that I put forward that this wasn't going to happen is absolutely ridiculous because it could happen because wars do happen. And if you look at what's been said by both Russia and China and what's been done by both Russia and China, the possibility is there to acknowledge that it's really there doesn't mean we're looking for a fight, but we're going to increase the odds of a conflict by being ill prepared to deter it. That's my view. Now, when I look at what MDA does, and I'll be frank that a lot of the organizations inside and around the Washington Beltway don't get much of my attention, but MDA, the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance seeks to do it with their mission statement. And they're by J. Fidel, as I said, the head of ThinkDex going to scold me for so many words, the ones in yellow matter. First of all, MDA isn't just about America. It's about making the world safer, right? Absolutely. This is something that we've put forward since 9-11. When 9-11 happened, that was a cruise missile attack on our country. We moved forward. The President moved forward on Act 43. We deployed ground-based interceptors within three years in 2006. We had them up and deployed in operational to defend our country. We had not done that. We had took it all down in 74. This is about that. That's when we started to move on this thing. We have to have weapons. We don't have defense at Guam. We don't have it. We barely have it in Hawaii. So 80 years ago, this is the same scenario that we were in with Japan and Hawaii with this. So part of the notion of dismissing the potential for an attack from a large country like China are the economic ties. We had big economic ties with Japan at the start of World War II. They stopped mattering because of the everything that developed in the late 30s. And as you can tell, Ricky, I'm getting a little pressed for time. I wish we had more. Maybe we can do this again. And certainly I'll see in Alexandria. But the other part of the mission statement that struck me reminded me of my time as the Director of Operational Requirements for the Air Force, three and a half fun-filled years in Pentagon. But the great thing about that job was how is the operational conscience for the Air Force? The acquisition folks and the strategy folks, they all had agendas. My agenda was what does warfighter need? It was a beautiful thing. And I could be obnoxious because of it. I'm not saying you're obnoxious, but I am saying that when I look at the bottom part and what else was there in yellow is that you don't advocate stuff. You advocate winning. And I admire that a lot. Absolutely. We don't have the capacity out there. We are the Department of Offense.  So that is an issue that we have to overcome. We have threats that are proliferating all over the world with ballistic missile technology, hypersonic technology and anti-satellite capability that's being put up by the Chinese and the Russians. It is a problem. You cannot win this war with an offensive capability. It's not a war. It is the deterrent to prevent war. And what we're getting now is escalation of accidents that could happen that lead into war. Anything going on in the Taiwan straits, one aircraft dropping close or making an accident happens. This thing goes off and you better be able to defend your forward operating basis to be able to create that stability of the deterrent. That's where we're at. We are not stable from my perspective in the fact that we don't have defense and our maneuvering force or defense and our power bases forward that we can't protect that force structure. I agree. And if you can't do that, if, because accidents do happen and that's how wars generally start, accidents, misinterpretations, et cetera. And if you can't stop, if you don't have a credible defense at that first instance of conflict, then it's bound to escalate. That's the void that nature pours and the vacuum and it will fill it with the feet, frankly. I think if we don't do it, you're gonna have Japan and Australia become nuclear. So you've got a choice here because they're not, if they don't see assured deterrence from us to be able to defend those first island chains, they're gonna have to go in a nuclear capability. So now you're gonna have a nuclear arms race. And I can't see anything worse than that. You know, there, somebody, a politician, once commented that be fine if Japan developed their own nuclear capability. The worst thing for the world is nuclear proliferation. And we're barely keeping a cup on it. North Korea is right there on top of that. So yes. And that's why Ricky, we can't accept a nuclear North Korea, even though the notion that they'll give up their nicks is. But think the bigger problem is China. There's no way North Korea could develop nuclear capability or the hypersonic China without China. China is that that is their puppet in there. And I, you know, we've got to deal with China. We've got China is to do it with alliances and partnerships and bringing India and bringing the Quad in, bringing everybody in to counter that both economically, both, you know, with our State Department and with our defensive capabilities to put them in check. Well, I'd like to take a break and come back for about an hour or more, but Eric, I mean, we can talk about foot. Well, I know you've got a game to watch anyway. It's a former national team. Rick, this is inspiring stuff to me. Folks, I'm going to ask Ricky to give you a 30-second sound by why you, whether you've never thought about missile defense before or not, or you have, why should our viewers care in a paragraph? Because we have a major power that's trying to change the status quo of the way we live. And to prevent that is not to go to war. To prevent that is to deter their action and to deter their action. We have to have defensive capability that can take out the first strike or reduce an accidental strike or reduce their ability to coerce and bully us with overmatch. So this is important. This is in the constitution of our country that our government is to defend ourselves. And this is the most pressing, offensive, threatening capability to our nation. It is growing out of control and they are advancing on hypersonic strike, ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons. So that needs to be in check. We just need to be in check of that to combine that. It is about being peaceful and this is about being peaceful. And I will add to that, Ricky, from my perspective, having worked with leaders of every country in the Asia Pacific region except North Korea, the world wants us to do that. I know, I've been there, I've talked to them. They know the threat to the world order and they want the U.S. not to fight but deter. And we can't do that with credible defense against missile, but space, very important, as you know, therefore space command drones, all of it. We have to have an effective defensive deterrent. So Ricky, thanks so much, man. I could, we could go on and on. Absolutely, but I go back to decision-making. We have to be able to have the decision-making of the command and control across the entire domain to give our decision-makers the quickest information possible and have the sensing to be 24% persistent around the globe to get that and then have effectors to go with that. And that requires artificial intelligence. That requires machine and machine learning and it takes the human out of loop. We can't have the human in the loop anymore to be able to fight this kind of fight and to be able to deter this kind of fight. So you just left another genie out of a bottle. Thanks a lot. I think that Missile Defense Command and Control, having written a short book about command and control and lived it at the operational level is the most difficult military challenge existing because it's so time and strain. It crosses different domains, different countries, different everything, the breadth of geography. It's very hard and I agree. And maybe you'll come back and talk to me again. As I said, I'll certainly meet you. And if the packers and 49ers meet and if the raiders and packers meet, guess who I'm pulling for, brother? Yeah, I think you got a little bit of advantage right there in Green Bay. As long as they keep it in Green Bay, you have an advantage. Well, here's hoping. Thanks not just for being in fragments of the Department of Management and Nation, Ricky, but thanks for your service to our country which is unique and important. And I'm so glad that I had the chance to get to know her. Thank you, Faker. I enjoyed the discussion today. Thank you very much. Mahalo.