And welcome back to another edition of the Falcons audible presented by AT&T and I guess it's only fair I guess it's only fair that I actually am end up in the screen this time DJ has been in there once arch has been in there once no doubt fellas, how we do We good man. I mean you're out in London living your best life and you know, we're in the studio I guess we all have had our turn like you said, but uh, you know, all is good Archway not be good is is Alma Mater is not playing well. So oh, okay. A little salty. Yeah, this after you you guys drilled, Missouri You did you did win in Minnesota law, so you're right I'm the only one with a dub. That's great. Okay. There you go. There's our college Our pre-show conversations. I can tell you that arch is in a very good That's what happens when the Falcons get a big Uh, yes, no, uh, I am in London this week fortunate to be covering a couple of games here for westward one national radio, of course had Uh, Minnesota in the saints this past weekend Of course that game was somewhat boring in the first three quarters got exciting in the last quarter A couple of long field goals deciding that game and then I'm staying out here all week Got the giants in the Packers this sunday and then I'll be making my mated voyage home So I went out for a walk today guys. I went down to Buckingham palace. I went down to big ben I stopped at a a really cute coffee shop Actually does that kind of take my man card away to say absolutely as soon as you say cute coffee shop I was like, whoa rack whoa But I had to stop there I had to stop there because it was such a London place to go to all right without further ado Let's get into what we're talking about today. I'm gonna talk about a falcons victory Let's talk about first reactions.  They're gonna play really upset Yeah, like that seems to matter a whole lot. So all right, let's let's start it off Dave, I want you to tell us who is your mvp from the game. There's a number of options. Maybe it's uh, maybe it's somewhat easy Who's your mvp from the game last sunday mvp from the game? Wow, I think it's very difficult to to pick a guy You know, and I kind of was thinking mvp so far for the first quarter of the season realizing we're playing 17 games We still can say for a quarter of the season, right? So cp would be the guy that came to mind For me and the way he's played But I would have to say you've got two wins And I would have to point to the veteran on the defense. I'm going to go grady jarrett You shall not I love it. I love when I pass You guys don't hear arch do that. It is awesome Grady, uh, so grady gets the two key sacks obviously in the last two games late in the football game when you needed him the most I don't know if you guys noticed but they kicked grady outside In and played some five technique this week and coming off and kind of playing that edge defender They're moving him around some but he got one on one against bentonio this this weekend One of the only times they singled him and he got home and got the key sack So you got two wins under your belt grady's played well all year long and I'm gonna I'm gonna call grady You know, maybe my mvp number two for the year I think he's been pretty good from a leadership standpoint But last weekend needed a key moment. You needed one of your players to step up and grady did that DJ I'm gonna throw this question to you But it can be the same thing that arch did it could either be from the game or the first Quarter of the season, you know when we used to have 16 games and it was a season It was really easy to do first quarter halfway third quarter end of season A little bit DJ who you got You know what I'm gonna jump and I'm gonna do a little bit differently And I'm gonna jump into the third phase and I'm gonna go with my man young way How about young way cool and how consistent he's been through these first four games And even in the last ball game dude had 11 points in the game versus browns He's got 39 points on the season and he's averaging 9.8 points a game So you go into a game knowing all right, we already got 10 points on the board That puts you in a good feeling so I like the consistency of young way cool I think we look around the league and you see a lot of kicker struggle You see when you get inside the 40 yard line, some teams are not really Overly excited to put their field field go kicker on the on the field And I think we have no reservations about putting young way cool on the field And knocking down some big points when we need them And coming through with a big one in this ball game to to put us up 23 20. So it was big Yeah, I think I agree and you know always puts a big smile on my face when you give somebody the nod I know It's really I was really waiting for you to look long snapper dj, but I understand you got to go with the guy that ends up I'll give you two quick ones arch I'm going to agree with you on cp cordial Patterson for the first quarter of the season I think he's been a man child, of course We'll talk about a little bit later being placed on ir so some other players are going to have to step up And speaking of other players stepping up my mvp for the game is going to be Caleb Huntley Guys a game was kind of just like Kind of like a boulder just slowly moving along right and I believe midway through the quarter and third quarter The Falcons had about 45 to 50 yards rushing and then all of a sudden they brought Huntley on the field gave him the rock A couple of times and the complexion of the game completely changed So I know i'm going to go a little off script here. Let's talk about offense and arch Um, did you see the same thing? It was like the offense couldn't really get things going and then all of a sudden Arthur smith decided to you know what we're going to turn around run the football and boy did that ever pay off They just ended up pounding and give some credit to the offense of line for the holes They were opening up up front. Absolutely rack. It's a good point Also throw parker hessie and key smith and some of those guys that are those edge blockers in it as well But and give mario to some credit mario to creates a problem in the run game because of his ability to get out the back side So some of those creases increase right But the ferocity with which Caleb Huntley came in and ran the football I can tell you exactly when it was 306 third quarter 306 left in the third quarter Huntley checked in at the running back spot We know cp got a little bit nicked in the in the first half wasn't able to go Algier carry the bulk of the load through that time and then all of a sudden here comes Huntley in at 306 And they run the ball 10 consecutive times in the drive And Huntley finishes it off with that five yard touchdown run But I thought there was some resolve up front too. You saw and I noticed on the sidelines I don't know if you guys picked it up as well There was a conversation going on and somebody got really heated from a coaching standpoint Yelling and screaming at the big guys and the big guys seemed to respond to that and they started playing Not just on cleveland side of the line of scrimmage deep in cleveland side of the line of scrimmage That second level defense was getting ripped off or knocked off the ball They had had they had a defensive idea that anytime it looked like we were going to go zone read or rpo They would blitz kamara mora the linebacker He would come to try to get in and mariotta's face Some of it had to do and disrupted some of the some of the really the pulls and throws because We didn't have we weren't accounting for core mora mora come in the linebacker So give them some credit for their game plan Nice adjustment They went to a blocking scheme that took care of him in the run game and he came off the ball I grew with your rack they came off the ball and changed the complexion of the game from a physicality standpoint You just continue to pound the rock and I think that's a great point David this is not one of those situations where the ball carriers were just doing a great job of making people miss It was there were gashes dj in the running game created by everybody that's blocking And I think it's a great point from dave's not just the offensive line the tight ends the wide receivers That get involved in the run game and of course mariotta's ability to sometimes hold that backside edge defender Because of his threat to come and run the run the football out of the backside What else did you see offensively dj? That was a difference maker in the game It's funny we bring this up because it was the subject of my falcons film review today was the offensive line And how they were so physical and just the effort that they played with and we talked about the receivers tight ends I did four plays and all four plays you got a lot of days of kids on one play cutting off the backside You got drake london 15 yards down the field getting the most dangerous at one time Which is the safe you got cowpins getting to the second level blocking a linebacker It was so many scenarios like that where And even one one there was one calip huntley run that I remember Vively and elijah wilkerson. They're running outside zone to the right wilkerson is the backside guard He runs 15 yards up the field trying to get the safety He gets his second level defender and he turns and he's looking for another guy This is the effort that was showed in the run game and it was four five six seven eight plays like this We talked about the 10 plays of running the football It was basically 907 The browns knew we were running the football and could do nothing about it the physicality in which you run Uh with those guys I thought was tremendous I thought all those guys really just put their foot in the ground didn't dance too much got vertical Got north and south and they punish guys on the other side So it was fun to watch those guys, you know kind of work in conjunction together And there was a play where aren't you remember this avie william? Oh, I was hoping you did you just sign this play? This is a great call to run run like a counter. Yeah, you get dalman Dalman pulls around from the center spot and he has and he has the the the seal block on the backside in But the great thing about it was at the point of attack He was square and I stopped around the video and he was square and now you give avie williams a two-way go He can go inside outside and this is another play with drake He goes down and he gets the safety and it's now avie williams in the corner 25 yards down the field. It was unbelievable play unbelievable job of avie Of dalman getting around there and sealing that block and it was tremendous Everybody was going right and they come up with a counter just a tremendous. I'm glad you brought that up shock I knew you were gonna get to that play So that's so cool because it was such a counter and really it was a counter to what we were doing We were running outside zone zone zone and all of a sudden dalman everybody's going right dalman pulls back and Shock described it perfectly gets head up on that defender that left that defender that's there to take care of mario to the boot Right. That's why he's back there now. Here comes the center this big center coming at him fronts him up and avie's out the gate I'm going to ask you guys this have people Slept on tyler algear's acceleration. Oh, man I You know what I say right when he when he says that I think about the third down in 12 play Falcons are in the bunch set you got you got drinking you got pits there And it was a quick read by mario to get the ball out of his hands And he dumped it to him behind the line of scrimmage and he picks up maybe what 15 yards I mean he really just cuts through two people to get to first down But I think you're right I think coming in everybody looked at him as just a pure bruiser bruiser back downhill physical But he's showing some ability to to turn on the wheels and you know kind of run away from people at times too. Yeah, that's exciting Yeah, I uh, I actually wrote that play down I always like try to write the up down the key plays in the game ones that I feel like as I'm watching it live Are going to make a difference in the result and that's one of the one I write third and 12 conversion to algear for 20 yards on a screen Has scored a lot of times maybe maybe it's just trying to turn a field goal Not try to make a a disastrous mistake or something all of a sudden instead It's first down for a land to continue the drive one thing I want to know We have two quarterbacks on this show and I don't think I've seen you guys ever so excited Right you guys are talking about airing it out. So it's just it's just miraculous Right at the end of the day at the end of the day, we understand that the run game is going We're gonna better throw the rock. 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We mentioned it earlier Cordell Patterson is going to go on ir so we'll not have his services for a few weeks We already talked about the guys that we're likely going to see And granted it comes at a good time because there's a really good fresh memory about the running game without cp And a lot of yes He's probably been one of the mvps to start the season But arch how do you feel the falcons run game is going to be in the hands of algea and huntley moving forward for Let's call it the next four weeks I think the run game is going to be in good shape the thing that And I think both those we saw the violence with which they ran with we saw the agility which was a What they ran with shock talked about sprinkling avry williams in as well as a complementary guy that can and I think those three guys will be able to handle the load You obviously lose cps Just the way he runs the ball downhill and hopefully and I think we saw kaleb huntley Run very similar to the way cp runs when he came in you mentioned it rack He came in with kind of a there was a different feel to him coming downhill There wasn't this he found one cut which is the zone style of running and he pounded it down the field He said after the game I had a chance to talk to him on the radio post game And I asked him about getting an opportunity being called up He found out on friday There was a chance he was going to play and they confirmed it on saturday that he was going to be on the roster And so cp and he talked and he says cp says hey man, you got to pick up the slack He says I got you man Now he said it a little bit more colorfully than that on the radio But he said I got you and he did He did those two guys and how about the distribution guys for me? 10 carries algae here 10 10 carries for huntley nine carries for cp 29 carries spread out over three backs and you ran for 200 yards That's pretty good. It's a pretty good distribution and I asked arthur in his show on the radio I said would that be ideal? He says be perfect. We could do that every week and sprinkle it out keep everybody fresh And certainly they're going to have to do that this week and avry will be that third back that'll be a part of that DJ anything else stick out of your mind is without having the services of patterson I mean, obviously he's a two-way threat I mean up three way if you want to put him in the kicking game as well It's I think it would be the wrong thing to say that they're not going to miss them because he's that impactful of a player But they've got to have some confidence coming off of the way that this running game produced without him in the lineup last We got I think both you guys said everything that needs to be said to be honest. I mean Those two backs came in and showed why They felt good about okay. Let's go ahead and clean this up for cp Let's go on ahead and make sure he's good for the latter part of the season because we saw three guys get it done We saw two guys like you mentioned have 10 carries a piece And rush the football in a way that gives him confidence So I don't think there's anything else to say about it. Those guys will be ready to go and Archer heard you talking to him. He was excited to get his opportunity.  Here we go. Let's go. I'm tired of hearing about The quarterback situation. Hey, should we play this guy or that guy? Let me tell you about marcus mariota and what he's doing one of the reasons we talked about it in the run game You're having some of these problems Defending the run if you're the opposition is because of him His ability to get out of the pocket his stuff off the rpo his ability to get the ball out quickly Yeah, I know seven completions. I get it yet seven. It's not good enough got to have better completions He's not the only reason why there's only seven completions. Does he miss some throws? Absolutely, there's no question about has has there been some snaps that he's got to hang on to He's been there's been some things he has to clean up. He made two throws We both played the position. He made two throws in the game They're probably about three guys or four guys playing in the league right now could have made The scramble to his left when he finds hessie And that's an impromptu play. That's not a rollout. He's forced out of the pocket and he throws the ball He's got two guys bearing down and getting ready to tear him in half He lets it go to hessie along the sideline that continues the drive And then the play he makes in the final drive to set up the field go Going left with oz going the other direction If you go back and look at the tape neither one of his feet are on the ground when he lets the ball go He's sideways flipping it and gets it to oz. Now I get I get it oz. He's oh you got to get him the rock No, no, he gets him the rock. He gets up field face mask. Now you're in field goal range So let's let's pump the brakes a little bit on the mario to bashing or whatever is going on This guy's been incredible. Not only what he's doing in the locker room from a leadership standpoint There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.  So let's talk about doing defense Michael Walker saying after the game that this is a bend But never break defense and once again talked about some of the plays that I ended up writing down Richie Grant his solo tackle on chubb when they tried to go hurry up on the first drive He gets that tackle then they go for it and the coverage sacks ends up getting a stop right there That's a huge stop when a team tries to go hurry up if you find yourself out of position There's no way you end up making those plays. Of course the hawkins force fumble that gets turned over Uh and cordial Patterson ends up scoring like all these little plays stack up throughout the course of the game Dave was just two for five in the red zone What are some of the other big moments in that game that you felt like the defense made outside of the Grady Jarrett sack at the end Well, and let me point out one other little thing that not on the defensive side Tyler Algear on the final run that puts you in field goal range or gives you the chance to kick Tyler Algear stays in bounds. How many rookies know to gear down and get on the ground right there Just a little thing and you were pointing out some little things defensively Cleveland is one of the best three-count screen teams in the national football league They tried to screen I think seven or eight times in the game and we blew every one of them up They're trying yeah incomplete and the one they completed To ninjoku hawkins came in and banged the ball out and you got the ball in a short field opportunity They were incredible the extension of their run game with those two guys run it and hunt and chubb Is their screen game to those two guys and the tight end Completely took that away from the game on that one too. Yeah Completely took away the screen game, which I thought stuck out that was and I'll give you one One series real rack and I'll get out of here so shock and talk We had a drive we think about the final drive where where Grady gets a sack and D gets the pick right Go back to the series prior to that I mentioned the Algear getting down in bounds. Arthur Smith mentioned this me on his coach's show Algear gets on the ground. They have to burn a time out Their last time out.  I believe they had to get on the ball right away Because they had no timeouts They didn't any timeouts Algera made sure they didn't have any timeouts And so you get you get them off the field three straight downs at the 48 yard line They don't get into field goal range to put you under the gun on your drive that you're down Now you get the football back tied I thought that that series of downs there right before the final drive was a huge and nobody'll talk about it But you've got to stop at midfield to get the ball back DJ who stuck out to you because I go back and I think about watching the game and And listening to the broadcast and it's almost like Every player on the defense at some point made a play to get his name mentioned The the michael walkers the lorenzo carter's obviously grating jared hawkins in the secondary alford It seems like this was a total team effort. Maybe not dominant Yes, they did end up shutting down the screen game, which was huge But what stuck out to you is some of the biggest plays defensively that helped secure the win I think lorenzo had a big play on a bad at screen again Uh in the ball game and he bought a lot of pressure in the game as well I thought he's been you know very active in his play over the first four games Which is you know big what you want outside of getting sacks. Uh, I think the number one thing is You knew chubb was going to get here. You knew they were going to force feed him He got his numbers, but you didn't allow everybody else to beat you think about it early in the ball game They were feeding joker. He was getting all kind of receptions all over the play second half He may have had one catch I might believe and you force him into that fumble, you know Obviously in the ball game, but I thought the red zone defense I thought your ability to take away all their other guys Your new chubb is going to get it, but you didn't allow kareem hunt to go out here and rush for 100 yards Or catch another 75 yards in the pass game, but I thought biggest things was hey We talked about it forcing that forcing that turnover on downs Then they had another time inside the red zone and I mean within the five and you forced a field goal Ben but not break was absolutely what just deep was about and gave the falcons a chance To to really stay in this ball game and put the pressure on them late in the game But I thought not allowing your other guys on their side to win in this game because you always say hey They always gotta have a star they're gonna make plays they're an NFL team But you don't allow Two three four of the guys that have a big game to contribute to the one that's already going by the way a jay charell Put a guy named amaria cooper and witness protection. I think I think he had what do you have one grab in the game I didn't even I don't think I ever mentioned his name On the radio now is the superlatives are throwing out rightly so guys But there are things to fix we talked a little bit about the offense defensively you got to tackle better Oh, yeah, they they did not tackle overly well in this game. There were a number of plays They were in position To make plays and it ended up being five or six more yards which allowed Cleveland to convert no question about that So I think and then that the pin and pull you're gonna see that now You're gonna see counter-trayer pin and pull rack where they're gonna pin down and they're gonna pull those two guys around Cleveland had tremendous amount of success now It's a bread and butter play for them a lot of teams can't run that I don't know if Tampa can duplicate that but we know it's a copycat league You're gonna see it unless you can stop it. So there are some things to fix. It's not perfect But they're playing four quarters and they're finding a way to win games All right, well, let's talk a little bit about that dave because you mentioned We faced a team in cleveland last weekend that wanted to pound the rock and arguably one of the top running backs in the league And nick chubb and things are gonna change this week. All right You got lender for net who is basically taking the line share of the snaps in the backfield for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers But now they're gonna go up against the goat arguably one of the best passers in the history of the national football league With a guy named Mike Evans that knows how to go up and catch the ball now You look at Tampa Bay guys and it's almost like the tale of two seasons I call it um before sunday night football against canza city and then the game against canza city because the chiefs Just dominated them by running the football and basically doing whatever they wanted Forcing tom brady to basically throw the entire game through the air So dave what are the falcons gonna face this weekend and some of the things that need to get cleaned up that could get exposed Against the buccaneers. Yeah, number one is going to be the tackling You're gonna have to tackle in space because they're going to get foreign at the football in a lot of different ways They're throwing it to him. They're handing it to him They saw what chubb had some success and that you're going to probably get an opportunity To stop the pin and pull and try to get to get him on the ground there The short passing attack is a big deal brady gets the ball out pretty quickly Unless he's going to hold it to throw the ball down the field to evans. That's a tough match up for a j torrell on the other side They got run on you mentioned at rack Kansas city doesn't necessarily come in thinking. Okay. We're going to run the rock They did in the game against against the team that has a reputation for being one of the best run defenses in the league You can bet the devon white and levante david all their hearing is how they got the run ball run on them And here comes the team that just ran for 200 yards. What do you think they're going to try to stop? They're going to gang up on the run. So to me that really gives you an opportunity They're willing to play some man coverage in the secondary and frankly, I don't think they're good enough to do that So I think you're going to get some opportunities Got to be willing to take those shots with pits and london and some of oz I get one on one against some of those guys down the field And dj falcons will get a chance to face a couple of former falcons Of course julio jones russel russel gauge both down in tampa both guys have been a little bit dinged up and Haven't necessarily had great seasons yet But what sticks out to you about this tampa matchup for atlanta to be able to continue some of this momentum that they developed last weekend You bring up two guys who Who are former players to gauge right now is the most targeted guy Fortom Brady right now. I know they have a couple guys outs and you know gauge been in and out But he's the most targeted guy for him. So, you know, he has a familiarity already with russel gauge So you got to make sure that you know where gauges But I think the number one thing coming to this game versus tampa on the road Is kind of similar to what you've already done. It's not a A different sauce you got to come into this ballgame with because you've done all the things to keep you in these ballgames And win the last two But one thing that sticks out to me is you had one penalty versus browns one penalty That one penalty came versus drake london when he was, you know trying to fight a guy off and got the face mask off You have to be disciplined versus a team like this and then defensively I think it's what you've done, which is you've gotten the football all the way in four consecutive games You've forced them to turn the football over and if you can do that take some possessions away from them And then turn it over to your offense where your offense Versed in all four games that moved the football without a problem. I don't expect it to be a problem this week as well So, uh, I think continue to be disciplined on the road is always a big factor and win that turnover margin Is always huge and you can say that probably in every ballgame Yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned the penalty dj because that was one of the I'll show you guys real quick Here's my sheet of notes that I wrote down with all the stuff from the falcons game I have on the right just one penalty for 15 yards and you're right I mean, I feel like there's some areas that they're gonna have to make sure that they end up performing really well And no penalties convert in the red zone no turnovers keep stealing the football away on defense and special teams And they'll definitely have a chance in this game. So arch dj How are we feeling guys? Like I love the energy today. I love the excitement the enthusiasm that you guys brought When's a break windows will bring that to you. It's a fun. Hey, you're on top of the division guys Give me someone out there. That's a supposed quote unquote expert that had Atlanta tied with Tampa for the division lead after four weeks Zero nobody So go back home. Stay back. Okay. Don't go now, baby By the way rivalry weekend this weekend for shock and I farmageddon K-state coming to iowa state big one Big one the oldest deep south rivalry alburn georgia Is minnesota playing for like a sows ear or a cow's bell or something this week? Who's minnesota playing? Some animal most likely will be on the line for whoever minnesota plays this week And honestly, I don't know. I'm in london. I checked it out Hey guys That's gonna wrap it up for us this week. I appreciate you guys bearing with me here in london I am not going to go get fish and chips. I might go find some tea and crumpets or something like that Go back to the cute coffee place. That's what it sounds like You're pinky up and off Emma I'm not going to do my UK accent because I'm totally going to blow it. Um, anyway, it's gonna For the falcons audible presented by AT&T. Thanks so much for joining us everybody Hopefully we're back with the same energy same enthusiasm next week after a falcons victory. They'll do it for us Thank you for watching on all the different avenues that you check out your podcast Don't forget like subscribe review and continue to check us out here on the falcons audible presented by AT&T Thanks everyone. How about captain wrackley? He's international, baby. Go, baby


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All right. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Morning. I'm just trying to get them to shut the door. Wow, it's going to be a long day. Yeah, it always feels, already feels long. Okay, I think we're good to start because we want to finish on time. What I would like to do is just introduce myself and my co-panelists, and then we're going to have a bit of a discussion around a number of key topics today. Predominantly around, you know, NFV and how that's getting deployed and different perspectives from operators who are actually working very hard to drive that forward. So without any ado, my name is Daryl Jordan Smith. I work for Red Hat. I lead the ITC Vertical at Red Hat. I'm actually based in California, as you can probably tell from my accent if you're from the U.S. and if not, I'm originally from the U.K. But I want to take the time to hand over to my panelists to maybe introduce themselves a little bit. But while I'll do this, I'll just run left to right and let you know who's up here with me today. So to my left, we have Ray from China Mobile Research Institute. Next to Ray, we have Michael, who is from Telus. Next to Michael, we have Fred. We're going first names today because I'm not very good at second names, from Verizon. Three major operators in this field. We're all very excited to have them here. Let me hand over to Ray just to maybe introduce himself a little bit more further and his responsibilities at China Mobile. And then we'll go with Michael and Fred. Hello, everyone. I'm Ray from China Mobile Research Institute. I'm the project manager and senior researcher of big data and IT department. Currently, I'm responsible for the IT infrastructure. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Michael Bag and I am at Telus Communications, which is a Canadian telecommunications company. We have a nationwide presence in Canada as well as some locations globally. My role is a cloud architect in the cloud architecture group at Telus. And that's it. I'm Fred Oliver. I'm from Verizon, which is both wireless and wireline environments. And I've been also working on cloud architect at Verizon and we're working on architecting the OBISAC platform for Verizon for NFB. Great. Thank you very much. So without further ado, I want to try and do is start off the panel by my first question. And we were doing a bit of a review this morning over breakfast and we decided the first question would probably take the entire session. So hopefully it won't be as bad as that, but we're going to go into hopefully some level of detail. I really wanted to ask the panelists one by one to just talk about why they're here today and where they are with their OpenStack implementations and NFE in general. And then specifically where they see some of the immediate issues in terms of some of their deployments. There's various questions within that. There's a lot to talk about and cover there, but it would be a good baseline for the conversation here at the panel today. So Ray, I'll hand over to you. Okay. Well, China Mobile has always been a supporter and promoter of new technologies. We are continuously protecting new technologies to promote our network and business even ocean. And for the now CT and IT are deeply converged in which NFE and OpenStack are deeply involved. For us, China Mobile, we have two driving forces. The first one is we want to shorten the time-to-market of telecom services. And the second one is we want to reduce the company TCO, especially the operating cost, the CAPEX. And we hope NFE and OpenStack, these new technologies can help us to push and to make it happen. And for challenges, we have many challenges when introducing the new technology. First, by introducing 4G, China Mobile got the accelerated girls of our 4G traffic. The traditional network architecture and operating system can hardly adapt to these rapid traffic girls. So we need to embrace new technologies to help us to solve these problems. And second challenge is the software and hardware or traditional telecom equipment are binding. When we upgrade the network, it's making it inefficiently. And the operation and maintenance make it very difficult. So we have to reform the network architecture and the whole network management operation mechanism. And for management, it's more complicated because we have legacy OSS and BSS system. We also have the management platform for different cloud platforms. For example, we have private cloud and public cloud. All the management systems are different. By introducing NFE manual, it is becoming more and more complicated. So we have to make the specification standard of the manual and to integrate all these management platforms and to make it with new technologies with an open stack. And with development or IT and internet technology, it brings huge challenges to operators. On the other hand, it brings us also development opportunities. We hope to grab this opportunity and use this open stack with new technologies to face these challenges and to solve the problems. Great. Thank you, Ray. I'll come back to some of the things that you were talking about. Yes. Michael. My answer is very similar to what a colleague here has to say. There's not much more that I can add. Except that for TELUS, a number of the drivers that we have for what our introduction to NFE and SDN are all requiring of the cloud delivery mechanism. So when we talk about business drivers and our initiatives around providing health connectivity and services to the healthcare industry, the connectivity and service that we need to offer to internet of things, particularly in the automotive and retail sectors are very much going to require the kinds of latency that can only be delivered by the NFE and SDN micro cloud deliveries that we are going to have in our POPs and our COs and our MSOs. And so as we begin to augment our legacy networks and our distributed services to achieve that unified control plane, we will begin to have those footprints of cloud to deliver those sort of business services that are growing. So our play is somewhat coupled to the private cloud evolution. So as we deploy and build our initial NFE pods that we put into these sort of locations, we will likely be binding them to a private cloud delivery. Yeah, so again, I agree with pretty much everything else. You guys have said from Verizon's perspective, our biggest problem is that we are in advantage that our data growth is growing at very high rate. And unfortunately, our costs to run the environment are growing at a higher rate than the revenue we're getting from that data. And we need a way to somehow break that curve and modify the curve. And we see OpenStack and NFE as a potential solution to modify that curve and bring us back more in line with where the cost structure is more in line with the revenue we're getting for that delivery. Some of the challenges we see, I think I agree with very similar things, we have a very lots of legacy systems, lots of integration with different management systems, OSS environments, BSS environments, how do we connect the existing environments that we have into new NFE enabled OpenStack clouds that we can integrate all those services together. Great, so I'll start with you Fred because I don't want to get you to be the last person down the road every single time. But you just touched on some of the challenges that you were seeing in terms of integrating some of those legacy systems. How are you uncovering those challenges internally in Verizon from an operational standpoint? Yeah, so I think we certainly have a dedicated team that's very familiar with our internal services that's slowly working through all the challenges they see developing custom build adapters to the existing environments, services and infrastructure and feedback that OpenStack can provide and adapting those to the services we have. It's a slow transition. I think we're in the midst of getting ready to deploy our first service and it'll be an interesting challenge. Great, Michael? So I think that we have a couple different approaches happening in Telstra right now. There is in a group that I'm in, we are for the large part approaching a green field approach where we're trying to land a componentized service that is completely green to the legacy environments that we are in. That being said, there will have to be some eventual integration as we move forward but if we wait until we have that integration well working, we'll very likely never be able to move forward with some of the opportunities that exist. So as we begin to deploy our initial NFE pods we're going to be very careful and deliberate with what kinds of services we begin to integrate into that environment. And I think that some of the, we're trying to aim for some of the low hanging fruit that exists there. As we mentioned earlier, the idea of what it's going to take to sort of upgrade and reform the legacy environment. A lot of it comes from the mere fact that some of our 15 and 20 year old pieces of hardware are no longer delivered as a hardware platform. They're delivered as a virtual machine. So when you receive this virtual machine, how are they going to live in an environment where there does not exist the kind of infrastructure that's able to provide a virtualized stack? I mean one idea would just be to merely land some machines tied together a v-center or some sort of ESXi cluster and load that VM on it but that itself does not lend itself to any kind of centralized management or all of the features of NFE and SDN that we want to explore and exploit. So, Cloud. So Ray, from your perspective you were talking a little bit about the challenges around management of this very complex environment. Can you expand a little bit more about what you're seeing in that area and what some of the challenges are that you're seeing? From a China Mobile point of view because we have a larger management system, we have different management platform, legacy platforms. We are from the research department. We are pushing all these new technologies. We are carefully defining the specifications and the standards and also we have many POC and test activities and field trials to verify the technical solutions are ready for us to move forward. But as a new technology, we face pushback from traditional departments, especially from the operation and maintenance department. It is normal because new technology introduce many difficulties and challenges. The NFE have to reform the whole network of management systems and so we are carefully defining the specifications and by testing to verify the technical solutions. So, Michael, what would your perspective be on that? One thing that we're kind of missing a little bit here is the risk. I think a lot of the pushback that we're going to encounter comes from a very risk adverse set of operational groups. But the point is, as we mentioned at the curve, can no longer the demand... The cost curve is too hard. The curve is too hard to manage. Once upon a time, you'd be able to buy a piece of gear that you can expect to last for 10 years and hire a group of people that can also last for 10 years. But we're now at the end of the curve where that's no longer possible. As you begin to add devices, as you begin to add people, it's an exponential problem. No, I think there's... Certainly, I think both from a... somehow with the change, our legacy management style as well as that automation into this environment as well. Those are kind of the two things we see in this way to break this cost curve is to automate a lot of the current processes that are done manually today, enable some of the automatic functionality of scaling products. And that's, again, kind of the NFE enables some of that scaling functionality and performance as you need it. So do you see much pushback from the risk-averse part of network operations in your businesses? How are you working through some of those challenges? Fred? Yes, we are. As everybody is, I think, obviously going to face, we're... Again, as Michael was saying, we're not going to kind of take on the major load of the environment right away. We're going to have a slow ramp of bringing in and proving that the services can perform at a reliability and performance as kind of our current environment and that our operations team can actually run that environment as well, if not better than they can their current environment. It's kind of interesting that our operations team actually is excited about moving this direction. They see that they have to do something that can't keep building kind of custom solutions for all this and are looking forward to enabling agility, enabling different kind of ways to provide services. Great. Michael? No. It's a new environment, a new world for a lot of the network engineering teams we have. Mixing in this idea of doing automation and building scripts and templating and providing central control to many of the environments is just not how things have been done. So this is a new education process for many of those environments. Great. Now, Ray, just like building on some of the things that the colleagues were saying here, we're barking on this journey using open source. And there are probably some interesting nuances with regards to network operations, people using open source technology, but from a China mobile perspective, how do you see open source? What role does it play in your thinking in terms of driving that cost curve and the agility that you're looking forward to and the innovation that it potentially brings to? Well, open source is a trend of the IT industry, and China mobile will follow this trend, but we also saw open source now has a gap with operators' requirements. So previously, we also tried to deploy the open source software in our current systems. For example, Red Hat Enterprise Linux in our private cloud, and also we deployed the REL OSP as a management platform for our hybrid cloud. And now for NIV, we still have to be very carefully because, for example, we need the carrier grid, so we will do the test verification very carefully and we raise our requirement specifications for this, and we will develop the requirements what is currently not supported by OpenStack. We develop it by our server partners and to support our carrier grid requirements. Great. Michael, from your perspective? You know, I've had a number of discussions around what exactly is carrier grid, but let's not belabor the point of whether a carrier grid is any great deal different from what a well-run network requires. The gaps that we talk about are often around the dependencies of all of the multiple kinds of protocols and vendor pieces of the pie that live within that environment and how much lag can we live through with each iteration or growth of an OpenStack release. So, for instance, there may be some network or switching tools that have a four-month lag from when Liberty is released to when we can actually deploy and use Liberty. And that's just one vendor, a switching vendor. Now, what happens when you start building into that the other kinds of releases of different kinds of protocols as you begin to mix in IPv6 and where that kind of lives in the network. I see that the gap from OpenSource is pretty broad there. From your perspective? No, I think the OpenSource brings one of the big advantages is the ability to innovate rapidly, bring new technologies, new techniques into the environment rapidly. But along with that, again, I think you get the... It's not completely fought through in certain circumstances and also hasn't been completely tested and validated in all the environments we want. Again, gaps from the existing environment and this is kind of where the kind of carrier-grade model comes in is being able to qualify, validate that all the services are capable of tolerating the rapid growth, the event issues that we get, the failure modes that we see that the environment can actually handle all that rate we need to handle it at the kind of low overall failure rate that we require in the network. So do you, Ray, coming back to... You made a very good point about the carrier-grade-ness of, say, OpenStack and the additional features that need to be built in that. Do you think that's an inhibitor to the adoption of NFV or do you think that because of OpenSource we can reach and meet those gaps collaboratively together? Yes, as I already mentioned, OpenSource is a trend. OpenSource has many advantages because it has an open interface, the open mechanism of security and the mechanism. So we will go along this road and we will define the requirements and we deploy the OpenStack, OpenSource technique step-by-step, from easy to hard. Ray, my microphone for you. Precisely. As I mentioned before, we're approaching it from a green-field approach, landing green-field environments that we can begin to integrate as much as we can as we can. There will be some other efforts by other groups in our company to better integrate into our legacy environments, but I think in those cases it may be using OpenStack as the mechanism to help orchestrate some legacy environments. I'm hesitant to think that that's going to be too very successful, but we will try. Great. So Fred, from your perspective, are you seeing in the deployment any low-hanging fruits in Verizon in terms of use-case examples that you can share? I think there are lots of use-cases that our potential to share were a lot of the issues that we're facing are basically short-term expansion of the environment. So we're looking to, for certain circumstances, things like some video service as a video becomes hot in the environment that we don't have all the videos distributed across the environment that we can scale up an environment to share those videos at real-time as go. Other areas that we're looking at are specifically for being more nimble in terms of deploying services, new services or existing services more rapidly, and there we're looking at enterprise mobile services. There's a lot of capability in extending services for enterprises in an open-stack world. Alright, Michael, tell us, what are some of the use-cases you're looking to share? We talk about there being low-hanging fruits, but in my experience so far is that a lot of it is having to just eat the elephant. We try to differentiate what are going to be some of the easier approaches that we can do and we find that it's just as we may as well go after some of the harder ones, but the cases where we are beginning to begin to play is just looking at defining our control plane, the kind of control plane activities we can to begin to automate some of the services. That's our focus right now and as we begin to mature we'll begin to look at some of the use-cases that we want, but until we get our controlling, our ability to do the management and configuration of some of these services, we're not moving too much forward. Ray, from your perspective? Actually, China Mobile has already deployed AV in many areas. First, we already deployed our RCS system. RCS is a rich communication which is more like a RCS platform, but with the carrier-grade requirements and then we did the lab test for control plane, we just mentioned control plane, virtual IMS in our lab and also approached the field trial in some programs of China Mobile and now we are doing the lab test for virtual EPC in the lab and we also have a project called CIRA which is focused on the wireless which is a migrate traditional base station to the general IT platform. It is also in the research and the lab test period. So again, we are doing this step-by-step from easy to hard, from control plane and then data plane and finally the wireless radio access network and finally we achieve the goal of the whole system based on the IT platform. Great. So, I mean from my perspective, just listening into what you were saying and summarizing a little bit, there seems to be some specific progress. There seems to be some gaps in and around OpenStack that you were addressing from an R&D perspective and we are trying to address those in the upstream community collectively but those gaps do exist and we are having to pick the right use cases. But from your perspective Ray, do you think that some of the technical issues you mentioned cloud ran and jitter and latency and all these big issues from a carrier perspective are pretty major? How are you seeing that in the lab? Are you seeing that that is something that has been realistically deployed in say the next 12 to 18 months? For wireless maybe it is difficult because we previously I was in charge of the CRM project and we did a lot of tests in our lab for wireless we have to meet the 3GPP specification which has extreme real-time performance requirements. So we have to do many improvement from the open source technique. For example, we have to use real-time virtualization but to leave the wireless we just talked about the core network it is easier to realize. We just did a lab test for the decoupling test of NFEI and VNF previously we have some tests but with coupled system which means traditional telecom equipment provider they provide both VNF software and also the IT platform but this time we did the test with different code from different companies and we did some gaps for example the open stack now we need the resource management for both physical resources and also virtualize the resources but the open stack now only support virtualize the resource management or physical resources and another point is we found the open stack this stage is still very new the easy to use and stability still need to be improved this is what we found throughout the test. Michael do you want to add anything from your perspective on this? Only that we have a number of vendor supported proof of concept environments and it's very difficult for us to find some common thread of stability across all of those environments. We may find some pros and cons of working with some Cisco ACI for instance or going with another vendor or some other vendors that we're looking at and of course the monitoring utilities that we have available to us in the testing utilities there's a mixed bag of what exists there that still needs to be fleshed out. So I'm going to change the question up just a little bit for you Fred if you were to look at the vendors because Michael made a very good point and there's a number of probably vendors in the room I'm sure what are the key messages that Verizon because I think you're actually hosting this week NFE 12 what are the key messages you're giving the vendors to come to you with things that can be deployed or implemented can you give us a hint on what you see there? Again we're encouraging all of our vendors to provide NFE solutions for your virtualized network functions and to be independent and I think this is some of your topics independent of the between the virtualization environment and the hardware they're running on they really need to be in a mode that we can have a different hardware vendor a different open stack vendor and a different V and F vendor and I think there's today not enough standardization in the environment to make that work cleanly and so I think we're trying to identify what the gaps are today goes with various standard organizations to make all that work again we're asking all of our vendors to support us and provide understanding about what the gaps are how they can modify either their applications or their infrastructure or the hardware to make some of that environment work better what's the joke if one standard is good 20 of them Ray from your perspective what are you asking the key vendors in China for your business actually the same we are incurring all the industry partners to cooperate with us including the traditional telco providers also the IT partners because now we as a new concept it includes the IT platform and also the traditional telecom software to combine all the resources to make the reality because it's a huge challenge now one of the things that we see from a red hat perspective and I'll convert to a question is the traditional vendors the network equipment providers like the Cisco's, the Alcatel Lucens, the Nokia's and so on and so forth they're having to adapt their business model away from providing traditional appliances and becoming more like systems integrators which begs the question do you see incumbent integrators coming into the space providing you the best of breed solution and actually working with you to do that or do you think that's a bit too much of a risk in terms of their understanding of the network so I'll ask Ray first it is a very difficult question currently we can't say which is better the traditional telco providers or the IT platform providers so we are doing the test by different method we are encouraging both the traditional providers and also IT providers they can both be the integrator and we will see the result which way is better is more suitable for us so it's a learning exercise as this business is transitioning Michael from your perspective what do you see it tell us I'm expecting that our vendors have better well provided open standard compliant hardware and devices I want to see switches that support open flow for instance I want the option to be able to use the vendor hardware however I see fit rather than being locked down to a proprietary use case I certainly agree with all those things and I think one of this challenges that this whole environment brings from Verizon's perspective I think we need to take on some more than integration role ourselves because we don't necessarily have any single integrator that has all the knowledge about our network as well as what the application that run on it we don't have the right solution yet I think we're still exploring what the right combination of vendors is and who the integrator is I think internally we're currently being the system integrator ourselves this is all part of the upgrade and reform that we're talking about yeah right you want to say something yeah we are also trying to to develop the specifications the requirements also by ourself based on OpenStack to see the possibility of China Mobile as an integrator ourselves yeah so one of the things we talked about big vendors and one of the things that we see in the marketplace is a lot of small ones that are bringing very innovative solutions so with the theory that innovation sits elsewhere and some of these guys are positioning themselves to work with China Mobile or Telus or Verizon and it's very difficult to engage because you're very large, complex businesses in your own right any advice for those vendors who may be in the room it's kind of a difficult question as well a smaller company, how do they engage should they work through a bigger vendor what would your advice be at the top of your head I'm going to ask Freddy I know he's racing to think of a good answer but I won't I'm not sure I have a great advice certainly I think you're right Verizon is a huge task and if you're kind of a small vendor and not prepared for the kind of the challenges of dealing with a large vendor like Verizon you're probably not going to be providing us with the services we need but I also think from Verizon's perspective that a lot of small vendors provide innovation and as well as motivation for some of our existing vendors to modify their behavior and innovate along with them and so I think there is both a direct usage perspective from innovation of small vendors with them Verizon as well as hope that some of that innovation feeds back into the larger vendors Michael what do you see it to we speak to a number of gaps that exist I think that the small vendors may be able to provide some solution that may evolve from being a short-term solution that covers some gap that exists and to being part of a larger solution if they're able to close that gap address some of the challenges we were talking about in terms of carrier grade from your perspective how does a small vendor engage with China Mobile actually by introducing the VNF software and IT platform at Carpool which lowers the gap of the small companies and we already have some very small companies which just develop VNF software and already contest for the future test and the IT platform is still making it easier because there are lots of internet companies they can develop the OpenState platform just based on our specification meet our requirements then they can join so we are encouraging all the companies not only the big ones but also the small ones, new ones that's great well I think but what I would like to do is to thank my panelists for their time, we covered a lot of ground with three very distinguished individuals from very major carriers around the world and I hope that we gave you some good insights in terms of some of the things that are top of mind and top of the agenda I'd like to thank Ray, Michael and Fred for spending time and sharing some of their experiences good, bad and ugly as it may well seem but I'd like to thank them and I think we can close the session because I think it's how many minutes we got but feel free to reach out to me with any questions I know that I think you can reach me through the names that we have posted and I'll be glad to answer as much as I can, any questions you have Great, thank you Michael Thank you


So our next speaker is Marisa Hamun. Marisa is the Chief Technology Officer at UTD Data Inc. And she's also a governing board member for LF Energy. For those who do not know what LF Energy is, LF Energy is one of the Linux Foundation project that bring the energy industry together. So that include like Greek companies and software vendors and even like academia. So she is one of the governing board members of that project. And today Marisa will be talking about the redefining electric grid operations from the Edge with Open Distributed AI. So please welcome Marisa Hamun. Good morning and thank you. I appreciate your attention and I hope to convince you by the end of this talk of three things. First is that the edge of the grid where the utility meets the customer is gonna change very quickly over the next seven to 10 years. Second, that our current tools are really not set up or have not prepared us well to handle that. And that third, that what we really need to do as an open source community is respond to that with open distributed AI. My name is Marisa Hamun. I'm the Chief Technology Officer for Utiladata, a real-time grid operations company that spent the last 10 years operating the grid both centrally and from the edge in. I'm also a governing board member for LF Energy. I started my career at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory studying how we were going to as a country and as a world quickly transition off of fossil fuel driven generation to solar and wind generation. We built digital twins before we had that word. That's now in vogue, but we simulated the grid at a very detailed level to understand where were the opportunities for changing how we would do things, for simplifying and making things more cost effective. And what became very apparent to me was that the edge of the grid where we use energy, where we decide what we wanna plug in had a lot more flexibility and inherent scalability than we'd ever given credit to. And from there I spent the last eight to 10 years of my life trying to bring technologies into the commercial space that really exploited that flexibility and that scalability in order to lower that cost of the energy transition. I joined LF Energy a couple of years ago and our company did at the invitation of the then-executed director, Shuli Goodman. She and I had been colleagues and friends for many years and she had a vision that if we could just bring together the community of technologists under this banner of open source technologies, open source standards specifications, that we would really lower the cost of that energy transition and speed up the pace with which we could do that. The other piece of that puzzle from my perspective is the commercial side of that. Where open source technologies meet commercialization is where we can really make that change happen. And so, Utiladata started about 10 years ago when the United States had a big push towards the smart grid. Smart grid technologies are now, it's almost like a bad word because we labeled maybe them a little bit too early. They don't turn out to be very smart 10 years ago. But the goal at the time was to digitize the grid, use that digitization to create a real-time picture of the grid and then use that picture then to optimize it. And so, over the last five years under my leadership for the research and development, we've been taking that technology to the edge of the grid. So, what do I mean by the edge of the grid? This is first and foremost where the utility, the electric company ends and where the customer begins. Both residential customers, industrial and commercial customers, it is where most of the change is going to happen. In this room, my guess is that probably only one in 20 of you own an electric vehicle. But by the end of this decade, I would bet one in two of you will own an electric vehicle. You'll probably want to plug that vehicle in close to your house, if not at your house. You'll also probably want to plug it in at work, maybe even when you're at the grocery store. For places where there's a dense population in urban areas, you can imagine that the street will now be lined with EV charging. Your grid is not prepared to handle that. The grid is an old, a very old object. It started probably roughly between 1920 and 1950 and was really designed with the idea that we would serve lighting, maybe eventually some heating, but was not prepared for things like electrification of vehicles. But yet, we are gonna see an explosion of those. So, not just electric vehicles, but we'll also see a transition to heat pumps. So, off of natural gas heating or even oil heating and to electrified heating. We'll also see an increase in the adoption of solar and storage technologies, in part due to economics and in part due to resiliency. Both of those things come into play. The economic piece happens really fast. You only have to look to Australia for an example of that. When the payback period for solar reaches less than three years, the adoption rate goes through the roof. So now about one in every three houses or businesses in Australia has solar on its roof. They had to go through a very massive change in how they thought about operating that grid in order for that grid to stay upright. In Japan, there are about 2,500 power plants. We think of these as the big power plants, right? Cold burning power plants, natural gas power plants. If every household, if every business, if every endpoint or edge of the grid suddenly has solar and storage and electric vehicles, now all of those are end points. Sorry, no, now all of those are power plants. That means there are going to be 80 million power plants in Japan. The utility right now can handle, you know, coordinating and dispatching about 2,200 power plants. 80 million is a much, much larger number. And in places where that change has happened quickly, what we have seen is, sorry, oh, is this? Okay, is this on? Great, all right, well, where that change has happened quickly, the grid is now considered at capacity. In the Netherlands, over the course of about 10 months, the grid went from being able to handle new connections for industrial plants or data centers to not being able to connect any new loads nor new solar. And it crept up on them because of some changes in the politics and economics of where they were getting their energy. I would contend that this is going to happen just about everywhere in the world, just at different times. So in some places where they are very dependent on natural gas today, this transition might happen very soon and other places it might take a little bit longer. But if we agree that the grid is going to reach capacity, then we have to figure out how we want to, how we want to respond to that. When the electric company decides that the grid is at capacity, they're using a very specific measurement for what capacity means. They take the worst case scenario. Everybody is running their air conditioner at the same time, plugging their electric vehicle in at the same time. For the single one hour peak load, that's what they measure the capacity to be. But if you took the average energy use over the whole year, most grids are at about 30% capacity. So we build an extra 70% to handle that one hour of coincident peak load and generally don't use that. And that means that there's a lot of opportunity for us to utilize more of the grid without actually changing our infrastructure, without necessarily building things. So I would contend we have three options for the future. One is that we do nothing. We slow down electrification. We slow down decarbonization. We give ourselves a chance to catch up under our normal build plans. The second is that we try to build our way out of it. I would say this is expensive, probably not really realistic. There are both material shortages, supply chain shortages, labor shortages that make that a very unrealistic path forward. Or the last is that the energy community needs to embrace technologies that other industries have already done. Things like manufacturing automation, just-in-time delivery of materials, the optimization of supply chains, even discoveries in medicine or fintech. Those, what those technologies all have in common is the use of digitization. So let's make measurements, turn them into data. And then making decisions in real time and coordinating those decisions. So if you were to apply that concept to the energy industry, what we start with on this far side here is visibility. You would be surprised how many substations in the world have almost no data being reported back to the electric company. Probably about 40% of them. So 40% of them, the utility company only knows if something went wrong, if it's literally on fire. That's a problem we could solve today. Once you have the visibility, you can move to better forecasting. From forecasting, you can move to then real-time management. And then by the time you get all the way to the future, we should be able to dynamically respond to the conditions that are in play today or at this moment and automatically create resiliency and efficiency. So if this progression is to happen, what I would contend is that we need a distributed AI platform that allows for this to happen. And it needs to be based on open-source technologies in order to increase the credibility of that tech and in order to increase the credibility, but also to support the innovation that we know needs to happen. There are kind of three things that I think I hopefully have convinced you of in the last 10 minutes. First is that the endpoints of the grid are going to become increasingly complex. There's gonna be an exponential change in how those endpoints are gonna operate. Second is that that change is going to produce a set of coupled systems that when solved really require a new type of mathematics in order to solve them. And then lastly, that by bringing the computation and the decision-making to the edge of the grid, we both avoid the latency issues of that round-trip communication, and also we avoid any privacy issues with the data. So, here's a small example. This is probably gonna seem incredibly trivial to you guys, but this is something that the utility has almost no visibility in today. What is happening at a particular endpoint in terms of the energy use does determine how the utility wants to respond to this. This is an example of how when we are measuring locally and computing locally, we can detect in real-time the difference between an oven starting and an EV starting to charge. No one should tell you when you can cook, but it turns out that charging your EV is actually a fairly flexible process. Generally, you're plugged in for longer than you actually need in order to charge the car. So, this demonstrates that you can have real-time detection of information, and you can use that information locally then to create the right kind of response. ElephEnergy is the home of a lot of such projects. They range from edge-of-grid operations all the way to central operations, market operations, you know, back through kind of power-flow optimization, and is really trying to underpin a change in how the utilities pursue these options. I think this is really important because this is how I got involved with them is a project called the super-advanced meter. We had run out of the word smart grid. We maybe overused that one, and so we decided this would be a super-advanced meter, and the super-advanced meter under ElephEnergy is a open-source standardization project, trying to develop a set of standards for what that hardware architecture would look like, as well as what the use cases are to justify that investment. Utiladata is helping to bring that technology to the market. We call it Carmen. Carmen is a platform for the software-defined grid. It is built on top of a, it's built on top of a NVIDIA IoT chip, the Jetson Nano, and it is designed to link the grid with the things that are, quote, behind the meter with EV chargers, with solar inverters and batteries. But it is also meant to be a key part of grid operations. So the measurements that you get right at the edge of the grid, right at the meter, can tell you what's happening in terms of power flow, but also tell you what happens behind the meter. So this foundation can be spread throughout the grid in places like data centers, transformer boxes, even commercial and industrial sites. With an open software-defined grid, we could set the stage for using distributed AI to create that efficient and equitable, and rapid transition to a decarbonized and electrified future. I'll leave you with this last simulation. So this is an example of how if you have the right computation and the right software-defined platform at the edge of the grid, we can dispatch locally the resources that right now we treat as fairly dumb. The inverters and the EV chargers, even your heating and cooling system, for the most part right now, don't respond to any sort of signal, but all of them have that capability, and it's up to us as a community as to how we wanna respond to that. So I think what I wanna conclude with, I guess as a call to action to this community, that the energy transition is going to require layers upon layers of technology, and the open-source community has the expertise and the skills and the experience to really drive that change. So please support LF Energy, and more importantly, keep doing the good work that you guys are doing. Thank you.


So we should be extremely guarded in what we think will be the leach of such a formation. Towards the end of last year we saw Kenyans cry out, we have a big wage bill and don't you think having more leaders would increase our wage bill that we are complaining already because we even have debts that we should pay and then here comes another pack of leaders that we should have. Do you think the Wanjiko Zandocinos will be more pressed in terms of tax pay? The cost of political instability pales in comparison to that of paying five people or more, creating more seats. I think I've heard this narrative and I think Kate is a misguided leader and I think it is, you know, I've heard the deputy president has been quite vocal about this, you know, saying that this is meant to create seats for particular individuals. That might happen, you know, and that happens in society, the question is the cost. You look at, for instance, in 2017, 2007, 2008, the rate of growth in this country, you know, the economy went down on trajectory, you know, so the cost is quite significant. But I don't think the argument can be sustained if it is a question of cost. It is not sustainable at all. So I think we should go ahead, we should go ahead. The argument, of course, I think is meant to appeal to the common man, you know. But if you look at the broader interests of society, then I think we should go on. Now our 2010 constitution, since its promulgation, we kind of feel like most of its content was borrowed. We think our problems as Kenyans is of the version that was borrowed from other countries is our biggest problem. Partly, you know, partly. Every constitutional document must seek to respond to the realities of its own society. There are doubts as to the extent to which that constitution in 2010 responded to what we face in this country. But you cannot deny it to a good profession. You know, you look at the flamers of that constitution, they were quite clear. The constitution was borrowed from the worker draft, from the Jeshpah guy led commission in 2002. So you cannot deny that it responded to the historical experiences that this country has had. So it's not entirely borrowed. There are one or two things about borrowing, but it is not entirely based on borrowing. But I think we should just, you know, constitutions are the experimental business, you know. It's all about experimentation. And as you experiment, you are going to notice various effects. So we should not be shy to amend the constitution. We should go right ahead and do it, whether or not we borrowed one or two things, you know. We should go on. The proposed system that the leaders want, do you think, for the presidential that is, do you think it will help in election rigging because it has been happening in every election hearing period? The system. Yeah, having the premiers and the deputies. So the presidency will have no clamour. Do you think that one would help even in the rigging of elections? When you have dispassion of power, it must go somewhere. So therefore, if the fragmentation of power goes to another office, then you expect high voltage politics in that office. So you expect the similar problems you have experienced. Do you expect that dispassion to five offices will reduce the toxic politics in a country? But there are limitations to that. And that's why I'm saying these reforms that we are seeking have their limitations. So don't just stick politics for power. It's about leaving a legacy, others seek it just to be known. And therefore, as long as those interests are understood in such a way, then people are going to have a lot of clamour for the presidential position, whether or not the powers of the president are trimmed or not. So then it is said that if...


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Hello, you're watching the International Daily Roundup by People's Dispatch and we bring you major news developments from around the world. Our headlines, Mexican activists secure key victory against agribusiness giant Monsanto. Southern African envoys reach Swaziland amid violent repression of protests. Document League shows countries lobbying to change major UN climate report. And over 20,000 civil servants in Sao Paulo go on strike against pension reform plan. Now first 20 farmers and activists in Mexico have secured a key legal victory against the agribusiness giant Bear Monsanto. In 2013, a group called the Collective Lawsuit in Defense of Native Corn petitioned the Mexican government. They demanded a stop to the use of genetically modified organisms or GMOs. The petition was based on the right to a clean environment guaranteed by the constitution. The collective argued that GMO corn endangered native varieties which are central to Mexico's culture and environment. The court ruled that the collective had the right to have its petition heard. It also issued a ban on the planting of GMO corn in the meantime. Since then, Bear Monsanto has filed multiple appeals against the injunction order, Mexico's Supreme Court has unanimously rejected these appeals and ratified the ban. The landmark ruling will impact corporations including Bear Monsanto, Sinjenta and Corteva. The collective has welcomed the ruling as crucial for the preservation of biodiversity native corn and milpa. A hearing on the group's petition is yet to be scheduled. Since 2008, transnational corporations have controlled more than 80% of Mexico's seed market through patents. President López Obrador has issued a crucial decree with a three-year plan to ban GMO corn for human consumption. The Southern African Development Community, SADC, has deployed envoys to Swaziland. The announcement was issued on October 20th and followed reports of severe violence. Fresh protests to demand democracy were held in areas including Murbane and Manzini on Wednesday. However, hundreds of armed police officers were deployed who proceeded to open fire on the protesters. The AFP news agency reported that at least one member of the civil servant's union, NAPSAWU, was killed. The union's president also stated that 80 members were taken to hospitals in these two cities. Some people had gunshot wounds. The Swaziland Democratic Nurses Union told Swaziland News that several of its members were shot. Footage shared on social media also showed police throwing tear gas into a bus carrying protesters. Meanwhile, social media platforms like Facebook were shut down. This is the second time that a delegation from SADC will visit Swaziland during the protests. The first delegation was heavily criticised for undermining and disregarding the demands of the uprising. Moreover, SADC members did not meet with any of the country's banned opposition parties. The organization's official statement also only acknowledged that the one protestor. However, 43 killings had been verified by political parties assembly alone at that time. The estimated death toll currently stands over 80 people. Countries have been lobbying to change key parts of the UN's scientific report on climate change. These revelations have been made to the public by Greenpeace Unearth. They are based on over 32,000 leaked submissions made by governments and companies. The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is in the process of compiling a landmark assessment report. The document leaked took place just days before the UN Climate Conference, COP26, in Scotland. It is important to know that COP26 has 11 corporate sponsors, including Microsoft. According to the document leaked, an Australian official rejected the conclusion that closing coal-fired power plants is necessary. India has also indicated that coal will continue to power much of the country for the coming decades. It currently powers 70% of the country's power grid. A Saudi official also demanded omission of phrases such as to quote the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation across all scales. Argentina, Norway and the organisation of petroleum exporting countries have also opposed calls to phase out fossil fuels. The IPCC has also been asked to remove references to the role of lobbyists in diluting climate action in Australia and the US. Switzerland and Australia have also tried to revise provision for financial support to poor countries. And finally, we go to Sao Paulo, Brazil, where over 25,000 government workers are on strike. They are protesting the Social Security Reform Bill, PLO 7 bar 21, introduced by Mayor Ricardo Nunes. The legislation will force over 63,000 retired employees who earn more than the minimum wage to contribute to Social Security. These contributions will reduce their earnings by 14%. According to civil servants union SIN-DSCP, the reform project will also impact workers' rights. This includes the reduction of paid absences like sick leaves and changes in vacation days. It will also increase the minimum age of retirement. PLO 7 bar 21 was approved in the Sao Paulo Chamber on October 14th. Civil servants went on strike the next day. As reported by the media, the union SINCEP has been joined by 20 other unions. These represent healthcare and education workers, municipal engineers, administrators, etc. The government of Sao Paulo has claimed that the reform is necessary to reduce the current estimated deficit of 171 billion rears. Meanwhile, according to SINCEP, Mayor Nunes is trying to increase his own salary by 46%. The reform will be put up for a second plenary vote in November. Meanwhile, civil servants have voted to extend their strike indefinitely. That's all we have time for today. We will be back tomorrow with more news from around the world. Until then, keep watching People's Dispatch.