Hi everyone. Welcome to Old Day Movie Workshop. It's so beautiful to have you all with us. I'm Peter for those joining you. And yeah, we've got a wonderful movie workshop ahead of us. And I think it's with a movie I haven't seen before, so looking forward to this one. So I can just let you know how the day will go. We're going to start with David and the movie commentary. And then afterwards, there's going to be a 10 minute break where you can submit any questions or prayers that you have. And then we have the closing session with David where he can respond to any of your questions and prayers. So I'm going to pass it straight over to David now. Hi everyone. Welcome. Glad to have you with me. Here we are as we're counting down our movie workshops for going down deeper and deeper and deeper into the merge into the living experience. So some of you have heard along on your spiritual path, you know that there's, there's a difference between talking to talk and walking the walk. And the difference is just between concepts and an actual direct experience that you feel vast and happy and connected. You feel home in your heart. You feel that you're nowhere and everywhere. You're just undefinable, unlimited, invulnerable, just absolutely joyful beyond anything you can speak. And that's the living experience that all spiritual traditions point to. It's like the Zen master pointing to the moon, pointing to the light of the moon and not getting caught up in the posture of the Zen master or the finger of the Zen master, not getting caught up into particulars. You know, when you work with even a pathway like a course of miracles, you have to ultimately see that all the characters throughout history, including the characters that seem to bring us a course of miracles, including the historical Jesus, including the historical saints and mystics and avatars that all the forms are really not it. And it's just one glorious, glorious experience that transcends the words, that transcends the forms, that transcends everything of time and space. And it's just great to have the metaphysics of Jesus reassuring us that God knows not form, you know, that you can lose the world from all you thought it was because it's not there. It's not where you thought it was.  There's a tiny little dot and it's already been erased by the Holy Spirit. It's already been digitally removed. The spot is gone. So it's a time of great rejoicing. It's a time of great happiness. And today, we are going to take a deep dive into that. Sometimes I did read a very famous historian, Christian historian one time who said, in the end all Christians become mystics. And he was just kind of laying it out, laying the metaphor that until you come into a direct experience of the Christ, then all the theologies and all the beliefs about who did what and who was with who and who said what and all who changed which document and which documents were burned. Who really cares about history, really, you know, and they say, Well, there's spiritual traditions. No, there aren't. The spirit is in the moment. This moment. There aren't really spiritual traditions. We don't have to be honoring the form anymore. We just need to realize that the present moment offers everything that we want. And the images of time and space offer nothing really that we want. And when you start to really give yourself over to that in a real deep way, you find you are deliriously happy. Deliriously happy. You are happy with no reason, no reason, no reason in the world for happiness, just an internal experience. So today, you know, we're going to really look into the depth of it. And the more you go into the depth of it, the more you realize that that every time you you offer an answer to a brother or sister, you're just speaking what you most want to hear. I remember it was only maybe two or three weeks ago. A friend of mine, some of you know Angie also goes by Jesus, but Angie wrote to me and she said, We're struggling with the idea of having a baby. You know, should we should we have a baby? And I just prayed and and what came to me was I wrote back to her as I said, I'm hearing the word syniac. A syniac is is one who wanders for God, who, who is so devoted to the presence of God that that gives up tosses away all possessions, all attachments. And the syniacies in India are very famous because they're, they're just wanderers for God. They, they basically are in a state of prayer and meditation and in a perpetual state of prayer and meditation. Where will you go? The syniac says, I don't know. What will you do? The syniac says, I have no clue. What is your destination? God, you know, yet syniac is a beautiful symbol of kind of an ending term for, I guess some people call them renunciates or whatever, but it's not so much about the renunciation of anything as it is the embrace of what's real and true. When you embrace the truth in your mind, then you absolutely lose all interest in everything else. And that's just the way it goes. It's just, it's, it's a matter of fact where you, you know, it's, it's not really a struggle. Unless you value what is valueless, if you do attempt to value what is valueless, then there's a struggle. But if you really just accept the divinity within us, then there is no struggle. You know, everything just is a flow. And in the movie today, the main character is a Rinpoche who, who is going to take us on a journey to show us that the whole point is to be in complete awareness, to be fully aware, and to not be aware of anything in particular, but just to be pure awareness. And that's a beautiful Eastern term. It's a yogi term. It's a, it's a Buddhist term. It's used, you know, worldwide, but, but to be just pure awareness without having an object of awareness. And the freedom that is, is that state of mind is so beautiful because, because it doesn't attempt to reconcile the objects and images and attachments of the ego with the truth. The truth and error don't really have a meaning point. Why? Because truth is true and only the truth is true. There's nothing but the truth. So any attempt to say, well, that's true, but no, the but cancels out the truth in awareness. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I agree sentimentally. I agree. And no, there's no and there's no ifs, ands or buts that come with truth. Truth is a state of mind that Jesus says cannot be described or explained, but only experienced. So once you kind of feel like, okay, I'm ready to go from talking the talk now to walking the walk. That's just saying, I'm ready to go from the bantering of the concepts and words into the actual experience. I'm actually asking for in my heart an experience, a direct experience. And there's nothing more important than that because this course Jesus says in the course it's not a this course is not a play of ideas. He's actually just pointing beyond the words to the experience, which is what all the great masters and all the great traditions do. They simply are pointers to an experience that transcends the world. And the whole point is to go into that direct experience and realize that there is nothing else. There's not truth and something. It's just the light is the light. So today's movie will be a backdrop for going into our themes. And the combined results of the English and Spanish polls came up with this. Coming in number one is allowing myself to rest and be passersby. Some of you are familiar with Gospel of Thomas where that very short teaching comes through Jesus and the Gospel of Thomas be passersby. And Jesus does mention this also in workbook less than 128 in the course of miracles. You know, the only purpose that this world could hold for you is that you pass it by. He slipped it in again in his course in miracles. The passersby be passersby. He's teaching us that you really have no sacrifice in passing by this world.  Then you realize what it's all about. It's like saying, what's it all about God? And then there's just a stillness that is the actual answer. It's not a word. It's just a state of stillness. Coming in number two is trusting in divine providence. A lot of people like to talk about, you know, having their needs met. But as long as you talk about having needs met either physically or psychologically, it just shows that there's just a belief in needs. And actually this beautiful pure awareness is such a transcendent state that basically it transcends the needs. It transcends the belief in needs. So you might say that when you're perceiving human needs, that's just part of the darkened glass of perceiving through the ego. The ego is the belief in lack. So to believe in the ego is to perceive a world of needs. And then you have such strange ideas like supply and demand. You have strange ideas like reciprocity. I'll do this for you if you do this for me. Commerce, unknown in heaven, but in this world it's a world of commerce. It's a world of gain and loss because it's a world of duality. It's a world of opposites. It's a world of past and future. And it's a world where there's things like achievements in form. They're highly valued, but once you start to go into this state of pure awareness, you start to realize there are no achievements in form. There was a little skit that I watched years ago and the main character goes through this big transformation. And then finally, as the character goes through this huge transformation, this Holy Spirit character comes and stands beside him. And basically the main character says to the Holy Spirit, Not a damn thing in this world ever meant anything. And the Holy Spirit just nods and goes, that's right. It's surreal. It's absolutely surreal when you really give your mind over to it. That nothing I see means anything. That's the number one from the Course in Miracles. That nothing real can be threatened and nothing unreal exists. How glorious. So you might say that what Jesus is saying is just allow your mind the permission to rest. And all of those fearful consequences you were worried about, If you really start to rest and you go deep, deep, deep into the rest, deep into the stillness, You can't help but laugh at everything. You don't have to wait for stand-up comedians to give you a joke.   And that's how the world ends. The world ends in laughter. It's beautiful that you can give yourself over to that. The third theme was love and do what you will. Isn't that lovely? Love and do what you will. It takes the pressure off the doing. Should I do it? Should I not do it? Do I have to do it? No. No. Love, love, love. The whole experience is one of love and it's not one of doing. Because love is not a body and love doesn't do or not do. That's the conundrum of believing in duality. Should I do it? Should I not do it? And Jesus is more just saying, what do you value? Do you value peace? Do you value tranquility? Do you value joy? Do you value happiness? But Jesus, what should I do? Do you value peace? It comes back. You're not answering the specific. Do you value inner peace? You see how Jesus is so pointed with the question, do you value inner peace? Because what is truly valuable is easy and what has no value whatsoever is difficult. And the human condition is just attempting to put the mind in the direction of the impossible.  It's ridiculous. But you have to really come honest with this value thing. I remember, I think I was named after David in the Bible. And my grandmother, Lillian, used to always by heart recite to me the entire 23rd Psalm of David. So I heard it hundreds of times from her. But now Lillian is like, our use for words is almost over. Thank God. And she's like, just remember the first line. You don't have to remember the rest. I told you that hundreds of times, but just remember the first line. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want. Oh, there it is. I shall not want. That's it. That's all you need to remember from the 23rd Psalm. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want. If God is with me, why would I want anything? If God is my creator, why would I want anything? It's got to be a trick, this idea of wanting. But Jesus is all, He's good with it. He's like, okay, I'm fine with fakes. I know you believe in this world, but I'm fine with fakes. So actually, I just ask you, let's just take that wanting and why not take that wanting? If you're going to insist on wanting, wanting, wanting all the time, wanting, wanting, wanting, wanting. Why not just want to see the power of your mind? Why not look, honestly, at the power of wanting? Because the only way this world gets set into motion is we have to believe that we want it. It wouldn't even seem to be here unless there was some wanting of it. So what Jesus is saying is, why not recognize the power of your wanting, which is really saying the power of your mind?  The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. You created me to be, not to want. You created me to be as you created me to be the Christ, not to want anything of this world. So now we're getting down into the direct experience because this direct experience is love and do what you will. In other words, the doing part is out of your hands. You don't even have to figure that out. But the joining with the Holy Spirit is truly the choice. The next one, a prayer to know my true worth, value from within. So really, everything comes down to a question of worthiness, because if I'm as God created me, I must be worthy. But if I deny myself as God created me, then that sets up a conundrum of trying to find worth in a worthless land. It's like going on a journey in time and space to find worth is not, you know, you're in for some reincarnation. If you go down there, there's going to be a lot of whoops, and another whoops, and another whoops. And then you just keep whoopsing until you finally go. The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want. End of story. And the last one is finding true purpose in all that I'm being called into. So the one question you can always ask very safely is what is it for?  And eventually the what is it for question, you know, it also ends in a direct experience because you cease to question anymore. You find your purpose, you find your calling, and then that's all she wrote for the ego. Game over. So in this movie today, the movie is titled Wondering, but not lost. It's from 2021. It's a documentary. And it basically is a documentary of Minyar Rinpoche, and Minyar is is a is a Yogi. He's a Yogi master. And at the beginning of the movie, you know, he's he's he's traveled the world. He's given talks and lectures. He's led meditation. He's he's he's had students. He's he's had a monastery of students. And in the world, he is a very respected Rinpoche.  He's going to sneak out of his own monastery, un unrecognized. And he's just going out to go on Walkabout, for he doesn't even know how long. And I really enjoy this documentary because it reminds me of my Walkabout days, although I did. I think I did more drive about. And then he does quite a few things. He uses rickshaws. I can't say I have used rickshaws, but he uses trains, buses, he walks, he puts on this nice jogging shoes. Patty, he's got nice, good jogging shoes, too. You know, he's he's not an aesthetic like St. Francis trying to walk barefoot around India. He's got some good athletic shoes there. Nice color, too. Bright pink. And the beautiful thing is he's he grows up from from a child being raised in the deep traditions of of India. And of the yogis and the yogi masters. So even at six years old, you know, his mother's reading him stories of the the yogi masters. The one they're going to mention in here is the he said is Tibet's most famous yogi poet Jetson, Milarepa, who lived from 1052 AD to 1135 AD. You got to love it. A yogi named Jetson. Don't you like the name of that Jetson? It feels like he's ready to take off with jetpacks and just go flying around India through the sky. And apparently this yogi. Yeah, just like people know Rumi and in the different traditions and the different poets. This was a very famous poet and yogi. And so he grows up hearing the parables of Milarepa Jetson Milarepa. And and then as he goes grows older, he goes into being the Rinpoche. And he's kind of got more like Siddhartha kind of lived in a palace. He's he's living a pretty much a life of being identified as a reincarnated master. So in his tradition, he's very revered and loved from a child on up as he goes into the tradition. His all his father is also a yogi master. And so he comes from a tradition where he's steeped in that. And he grows up with a great love of the the mystics of the wandering Sannyasis who go traveling about and who are famous for just taking off without notice to go live in the woods or the mountains. Most people in the world, they don't really ever consider that option.  Like, what do you mean? Where are you going? I'm going to go live in the woods. I'm going to see that big mountain over there. It's like, yipes, a mother's nightmare. But actually, there's a deep tradition behind this. And this is going to transcend the duality, transcend the belief in duality, transcend the belief in opposites, transcend the belief in family, the belief in hierarchies, the belief in reciprocity, the belief in commerce, the belief in everything that we perceive in this world. Jesus is saying, you know, what keeps your mind in chains but your beliefs and what will set your mind free except by exposing and releasing those beliefs. It's really pretty simple. You just have to stop believing in linear time which requires a lot of trust to be unwound from those false beliefs. So basically, Minier is going to, in this documentary, he's going to leave his monastery and he's going doing it with a purpose to face whatever remains in his mind, to face whatever emotions come up. That's a purpose for travel. That's a purpose for the sannyasi. He's going to face whatever thoughts arise. Whatever impulses arise. Wow, when you really look at that, it's such a beautiful high calling.  You're going to have to learn how to truly meditate. You're going to have to learn how to truly pray. And really that's telling it straight. This stuff about education and fulfilling roles of society and fulfilling family roles and fulfilling roles of this world is basically a distraction from the truth of knowing who you really are. And so it's good to get it straight. And we're getting, we like Jesus to tell it to us straight in the course. And we also like examples of those who basically started questioning their beliefs. Even Gandhi, yeah, Micah and Amanda were just watching the Gandhi movie the other day. And then you see someone who is well educated. He was educated as a lawyer, you know, in England, but who actually decided at some point that wasn't the purpose of his life to be a lawyer. That he went on a quest for truth and he started to question everything. He started to question violence. Isn't that beautiful that that a mind questions violence? Instead of accepting it is true. Instead of just accepting that attack and violence are just the way things are, he started to question that. And then when he stood up for nonviolence, the rest of the world said, crazy. There's a crazy, another crazy little Indian man.  And yet that was a beacon of truth coming through, you know, he was just such a shining light of defenselessness. And he knew, you know, I read his autobiography. So, you know, he even knew where his issues were. He was asked one time by a reporter, they said, Mr. Gandhi, are you a saint? Are you a politician trying to become a saint or a saint trying to become a politician? And he said, I'm a politician trying to become a saint. He knew he lived in India where the great deep teachers were for centuries and centuries and centuries. So when they started to say, you know, you seem to be all trying to get the British out of India. He's like, yeah, I know that's too bad. I'm a politician trying to become a saint. He knew he had to drop down, down, down, down into the mind much deeper beyond the political. There's no political solution in this world. It's a perceptual problem. And he knew that he needed to go much, much deeper in order to find that truth.  He might have been one of the world's most famous non-political politicians, but he didn't want that title for himself. And the people knew it too. That's why they called him Mahatma, great soul, Mahatma. Let's all take that word in, Mahatma. You can feel the power, Mahatma. So in this movie, we're going to see Minyer Rinpoche. He's going to go on a voyage and he's going to kind of be very transparent for us. Why is this important? It's because as we're waking up, we need transparent examples. We need to see people who have just asked the deeper questions and then opened up to an experience. We need role models, you know. We've had enough role models being actors, actresses, sports figures, military leaders, you know, whatever, you know, enough. We really, that is not what we need. We need actually some good examples of those who are walking the talk and he's a good one for that. And I think back, this is just bringing up so much joy for me because as I watch this movie, this documentary with me, it's bringing up all these wonderful warm feelings of my Sinyasi days, of traveling about. The thing with Minyer is he's already a famous well-known yogi. So he is kind of, to the world, kind of known and he has to kind of go incognito and try to stay without being recognized in order to fulfill his Sinyasi experiment, you could call it. And for me, when I went, nobody knew who I was and I loved that. I went into everybody's house, oh come on, have dinner with us and oh, stay, we've got an extra spare bedroom over here and this and this. And I enjoyed being completely unknown and I was not under the radar, I was not on the radar at all. I was just a bundle of joy expressing itself and having a lot of fun going around to many different places, many, many different places just in joy. And the beauty of it is that you really do free your mind from the belief that you have to accomplish something in the world. You free your mind completely from looking to achievements. You free your mind from having a reputation. You love having a zero reputation. And you can only imagine Jesus going off to pray on the mountain when he was like a teenager in his 20s because nobody knows Jesus of Nazareth.  He's not all there, but he's pretty happy, but nobody knows him and then soon as he goes on his public ministries, Jesus of Nazareth.  And the Romans don't know what to think of him and the Sadducees don't like him and the Pharisees really hate him and they're afraid of losing their power. And yet it's just a presence. It's a simple presence of all that there is, a simple presence of love, of joy, of friendliness. And so I find, I found it very natural to go through this in the early days of the parable of David. We'll say maybe in the late 20s and 30s, early 30s, it was so much fun seemingly traveling all over and just showing up and showing up and showing up. And then if they'd say, you know, what is your opinion of this teacher or that teacher, I'd say, I don't, who are they? I don't know. I don't know who I am. I don't know who they are, but I'm having fun just in the discovery. I'm having fun in the discovery, in this moment discovering who I am. I'm having so much fun with the discovery. And I think it's actually beautiful. Some of you have seen, I did a movie workshop one time on Mystic India. And I think the name was the name of the boy who, the child who while his family was sleeping, he walked out of his house. He just kind of looked at his parents and his siblings and his community.  Wow, you've got to love that. And Nimkoff, he was on the road for more than four and a half years, or in my case, my first five years I was out. He was off for many, many years just merging with all that is. No reputation, no past, no future. Just a very delightful presence. That's what he represented. And I think you're going to feel the same sparkle with Minya Rinpoche. You're going to feel the playfulness, the lightness, the laughter, the spontaneity, the openness. That's really the gift. If you feel like your spiritual journey has up to this point been basically an intellectual approach, then this movie is just perfect because this movie is showing that there is no such thing as intellectual spirituality. It's just another ego concept. It's another self-concept that has nothing to do with the reality of God's love and truth.  And I say the only value the intellect has is the Holy Spirit's use of it. And we can see from, of course, the miracles that Jesus used with Helen Shuckman, a highly developed intellect to point to something that was completely beyond the intellect entirely. And that's what he's calling us to. He's calling us to an actual direct experience that has nothing to do with intellectual concepts. The Buddha said, empty your mind of everything you think you think and think you know. Jesus Christ said, empty your mind of everything you think you think and think you know. Ramana Maharshi said, empty your mind of everything you think you think and think you know. So before we go into this movie, I thought I'd just ask Jesus to give us some words. You know, set us in the right direction. Set us on your holy path to know the divinity of what is real and true. And here are some words from Jesus to lead us into this glorious movie today. Also, I'm going to give a quote from the main character, Minier Rinpoche. He says, the entire path is a shift in perception. Sound familiar? That's from Minier. That's our main character today. The entire path is a shift in perception. Let us be still an instant. And forget all things we ever learned, all thoughts we had, and every preconception that we hold of what things mean and what their purpose is. Let us remember not our own ideas of what the world is for. We do not know. Let every image held of everyone be loosened from our minds and swept away. Be innocent of judgment, unaware of any thoughts of evil or of good that ever crossed your mind of anyone. Now do you know him not? But you are free to learn of him and learn of him anew.  Now is he free to live as you are free because an ancient learning passed away and left a place for truth to be reborn. Simply do this. Be still. And lay aside all thoughts of what you are and what God is. All concepts you have learned about the world, all images you hold about yourself. Empty your mind of everything it thinks is either true or false or good or bad. Of every thought it judges worthy and all the ideas of which it is ashamed. Hold on to nothing. Do not bring with you one thought the past has taught nor one belief you ever learned before from anything. Forget this world, forget this course and come with holy empty hands unto your God. Each thing you value here is but a chain that binds you to the world. And it will serve no other end but this. For everything must serve the purpose you have given it until you see a different purpose there. The only purpose worthy of your mind this world contains is that you pass it by without delaying to perceive some hope where there is none. Be you deceived no more the world you see holds nothing that you want. What keeps the world in chains but your beliefs and what can save the world except your Christ self. Yet his salvation easily achieved for anyone is free to change his mind and all his thoughts change with it. Now the source of thought has shifted for to change your mind means you have changed the source of all ideas you think or ever thought or yet will think. You free the past from what you thought before you free the future from all ancient thoughts of seeking what you do not want to find. The present now remains the only time here in the present is the world set free. For as you let the past be lifted and release the future from your ancient fears you find escape and give it to the world.  Death strikes it everywhere because you hold the bitter thoughts of death within your mind. The world is nothing in itself. Your mind must give it meaning and what you behold upon it are your wishes acted out so you can look on them and think them real. There is no world apart from what you wish and herein lies your ultimate release. Change but your mind on what you want to see and all the world must change accordingly. Heaven itself is reached with empty hands and open minds which come with nothing to find everything and claim it as their own. So let's really enjoy this movie. Let's enjoy this witness is saying set your mind free and be free open to pure awareness. Don't even think what you're aware of just open to pure awareness just being aware just being fully aware. Nothing else.  But this guy is a happy guy and you can feel it you know is he's happy because he is detached from the world and and he's in love. In the broadest sense of that word. So enjoy enjoy the movie and I'll be popping in from time to time.


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Hello, everyone. My name is Scott Swanson. I am your host today for the field of fork webinar, which is brought to you by North Dakota State University Extension. Anyways, this is our 11th year. We've done the field of fork series. And so we're so glad you joined us today. If you're curious, we have archived all previous years webinars and those are on the field of fork web page. The next slide will show our upcoming webinars. Hope you can join us for these two. And next week will be Andrew Thaustensen. Our extension safety specialist, a pesticide safety specialist about what gardeners should know about pesticides. We have a special request from you. This program is sponsored in part with grant funding from the USDA's agricultural marketing service. So we will ask you to complete a short online survey that will be emailed right after today's webinar. And as a thank you, Julie will provide prizes to the lucky winners of the random drawings. So be sure to put in your complete address on the follow up form, including your city, state and zip code. So again, welcome to today's webinar. I'm pleased to introduce today's speaker. Shannon Coleman is an associate professor and state extension specialist in food safety and consumer production at Iowa State University. Coleman's extension and outreach work includes developing and disseminating food safety curricula and resources for Iowa's emerging very small and small food manufacturers. Her research uses various evaluation theories to evaluate food manufacturers, attitudes, intentions and behaviors toward following food safety practices. In addition, Coleman has expanded her outreach and research to fill gaps in improving food safety and the local food system from farm to table, including developing developing curriculum and resources for youth, adults and gardeners. In today's presentation, Shannon will present on produce safety practices that gardeners should follow from home to the market. So Shannon, take it away. All right, we see people from all over North Dakota, Kansas, South Dakota, Wisconsin. So welcome everybody. So learning objectives for today. They are that we will number one identify food safety risks that could lead to cross contamination in the garden. The next is illustrate when you should wash your hands. And then the third one is demonstrate food safety risk and corrective actions through a scenario activity. So there will be an interactive portion to the presentation today. Although this image looks probably a little funny. This is not all funding gains when it comes to food war and outbreaks food war and outbreaks have increased overall with 46% about breaks from 1998 to 2008 being attributed to fresh produce and nuts. This image here shows for from the water quality and health council that shows that there was 29 recalls in the United States from 1985 to 2017. The highest recall report were for fruit vegetables and nut products accounting for 11 of those, which translates to about 30 38% of recalls. As far as you being a gardener. I know in the state of Iowa, people who grow fresh produce in their home gardens and take them to the farmers market and so that's why we try to focus even for small growers and gardeners when we talk about doing food safety practices in the garden. And so, in the state of Iowa, we have the program growing together Iowa, and it is a food security program where we have our master gardeners growing fresh produce that would go to the donation gardens. And it may be about year two or three of that program. I was asked to develop a poster, which turned into a sign that is can put it be put into the garden to remind the gardeners to follow safe practices and so I don't I don't have that one in my script but I work on getting it in my script or at least on providing it to Julie and her intern. But if you wanted to use this is a found available on our issue extension store. And so in the next few slides, I will be explaining a bit about the science and the produce safety practices behind these areas that we highlighted here in this poster. So first starting with produce concern of animals. Due to the proximity of humans, wildlife domestic animals. They are very likely to harbor those who born pathogens that could be a risk to your garden. And when you are thinking about doing a risk assessment of your garden, you want to make sure you're looking for both domestic and wild animals. Because they carry a lot of those human foodborne pathogens and their feces and they can be spread throughout your garden and your fields. You want to look into ways of limiting their access to your garden, which is essential to ensure that the produce that you want to take to the market does not become contaminated. Water is another thing that comes up a lot when we talk about produce safety. So many pathogens can be introduced to fresh produce through water. And spread. And so they are you need to understand the risk associated with water to kind of understand which is the appropriate water that you should use in your garden itself. Without water, there would not be any fresh produce. So when you're managing your water quality, it is proper to use the critical understanding to reduce the pathogen safety risk when it comes to your fruit and vegetables. So when we talk about water quality is based on the source and there are three common source of water surface ground and municipal water. And so out of these three, we look at the risk. And so higher risk is with those surface water and lower risk is with the municipal water and we would recommend or even yesterday with the with the training we're getting ready to put out for processes to talk about portable water or drinking water. So making sure you use the appropriate water in your gardens and fields. And if you are using some of the other sources of water, going through the process of making sure that they're appropriately tested. Workers with their improper volunteers with their improper hygiene practices. There's water, soil, animal fees, a feces, organic matter, dirt and other ways they can transmit food were pathogens to fresh produce. So it's essential. When you're working in your garden that you follow safe practices such as making sure that your food contact surfaces meet the standards that are appropriate for harvesting, and they know any other activities in the garden and so looking at the, the top of your food contact surfaces you want to make sure that they're non toxic non absorbent durable and can with handle handle corrosion and that they're easily that you can easily clean and sanitize them if you if possible. As a garden you want to make Gardner you want to make sure that you're not transmitting any food born pathogens to your family and friends or if you're taking this to the market to your customers. And so you want to make sure that you have a proper cleaning and sanitizing policy when it comes to your containers and equipments to help reduce the risk of food born pathogens. A lot during this Kobe 19 pandemic handwashing has come up and so it's always a good reminder to remind everybody about handwashing and especially in your gardens. So number one way to reduce risk of any affections bacteria or viruses is through handwashing practices and so listed here are the appropriate steps that are listed by the center of disease control and prevention so we're starting off with wetting your hands with clean and running water and turning off your tap and applying soap. Lather your hands together with the soap and make sure you get between your hands and between your fingers and underneath your nails and you want to scroll for about 20 seconds and you've you want to make your day feel special or even smile at yourself you can sing happy birthday to yourself a couple of times and then you want to rinse your hands with running water and then dry it with a clean paper towel or even air dry them. So, when you're thinking about your gardens especially if you have a community community garden, you want to remind your volunteers and everybody to wash their hands so you can do that with the portable handwashing station. And in the chat I have put some links to some handwashing demographic posters that we have through Iowa State extension and outreach store that are free and available to print. And the one here on this slide is one of them that is in that chat for you. And so the question always comes up as y'all mentioned washing your hands all the time. But when should we actually work wash our hands and so here are some examples here, which includes, you know, after using the restroom facilities before and after eating and even smoking. When I was working on my hydroponic tomatoes project. The horticulture faculty member asked that any one of us smoke because there is a possible transmission of of a disease or something toxic to two tomatoes from actual cigarette so with my lab mate who was a smoker. I had to tell him sometimes you can't come or you want to wear gloves because he was a smoker. And then also as far as washing your hands, it could be anytime that your hands become contaminated. So that's why we recommend that you have like a portable handwashing kit in your actual field that can contain a igloo water container bucket to capture your water some hand soap paper towels and a trash can. So, looking at entries of contamination so when you have bruises punctures damages to your produce. It is possible through those entry of contaminations of the plant tissues, such as the somata that there could be some transmission of these foodborne pathogens and there's a few papers that had looked at that research and when I did my research as a student that was some of the things we were looking at as well. So, you know the popular opinion is that these pathogens will survive but not thrive in an intact or uninjured surface produce. But you want to make sure that you are. You're doing things to make sure that you are not incorporating these damage produce items in your actual items that you want to take to market or even to your local food pantry. So you want to understand that if you see those bruised or drop produce that you want to discard them. So in the title we also talk about transportation so transportation to the market. So there are various sources of transportation when we're talking about taking your fresh produce to the pantry and the market. It is recommended that you adapt your transportation sources to fit the best practices. So number one you want to make sure that you have a clean and covered transportation. My favorite form of transportation for fresh produce could be a large SUV or even a cargo van because they're already covered. And so you don't have to worry about any pests or birds or anybody else dropping anything on top of your produce. However, if you have a truck and you want to put your produce in a truck bed best practices is to use a tarp or cover the bed to make sure that your produce does not become contaminated. And then I think these one of our final things before we go into our activity is thinking about your personal protection. So following appropriate personal hygiene and cleanliness practices in your garden is essential. And so some of those recommended things are list are listed listed here.  Also, especially if it's long. You want to make sure that you're not eating or drinking or even smoking in your garden. So having actual designated area for that with your volunteers and workers being aware if they're sick and ask them do not to come to work when they're sick. So and also being aware of some of those symptoms that are associated with foodborne pathogens such as fever, diarrhea and vomiting. It is also recommended that you do not wear jewelry in the garden so leave your big diamonds or big rings or things like that out. Because those can serve as physical hazards to to your customers. And then lastly, we asked that you wear clean clothing in the garden as dirty clothing can transmit foodborne pathogens. And so this would be a good time to just take a break and also just talk about some of the things that we are doing here in the state of Iowa as it relates to garden safety, as well as some promotion of safe that safe or nutritious eating. In the summer, our food and health specialists from our unit of extension and outreach, deliver an in person training called produce basics. And this program provides participants with that information about learning about preparing produce as well as about safe practices as it relates to fresh produce and gardens. And so participants will learn how to store clean prepare and preserve fresh produce and vegetables. This program includes a lecture interactive activities and food demonstration. And so today, you are lucky. You will get a sneak peek into our produce basics program as one of the interactive activities that is involved with that program is also a part of this series here we have produce safety in the garden, which is a series of interactive activities that can be used as a form of training with workers volunteers in your in your operation or in your gardens. And so you'll specifically be interacting with the food safety scenario activity which starts on page four. In the in the guide itself we have facilitator guys and workbook and worksheets that can be used for these activities. And so going through our instructions. So we're in this is where I'm glad that Scott was able to enable the chat. So we for the instructions in the chat for each scene, you will list any food safety risk and a corrective action for the scene. So when we're saying food safety risk it is similar to food safety hazards. And so those are agents that will cause potential adverse health reactions to our customers. And so corrective actions are taken to eliminate those food safety risks so you'll want to put both in the chat. And so we're for this activity, there are six scenes but today you'll only interact with three. So I'll give some time for you to respond to each scene and I'll even call you out in the chat or give you kudos in the chat as you're putting in your responses and then we'll go through each scene and kind of discuss the risk and the corrective action. So all right, we're about to get ready. So we are starting off at scene one. So at 830 am jam the garden manager usually works alone and comes to work with visible dirt and stains on his clothing. So in the chat, I want you to put in some responses of the food safety risk and the corrective action for this scene. So RK put in a risk and the action and the corrective action and seeing variety of things I'm seeing clothing I'm seeing tools. And actually I see some other things highlighted and we'll talk about that in the when we look at the actual responses. Y'all are doing a good job in the chat. All right, so I'm going to wrap it up and we're going to put up we're going to show the responses. Food safety risk. The ones they're outlined here on the slide. What I love about this activity and that's why I'm kind of paying close attention to the chat because usually when I do this people point out a lot of a lot of different things that we don't see. Usually, and so what I saw in the chat and some of the responses with the correct responses is the dirty clothing. Somebody said one time when I did an open toe shoes because they couldn't really tell they look kind of but they can tell. And then, and what I saw today which I'm going to add to this discussion is everybody talked about how the shoes are also dirty. But in my work with the master gardeners, when we did a focus group, they say we are dirty, we are dirty people. So we work in dirt. So I think the biggest thing is just making sure that you are aware of your dirty clothing and tools and just, you know, being cautious and making sure that you're not spreading anything in your garden itself. So correct, corrective actions can be clean clothing, close toe shoes, cleaning off your shovel after use, just making sure if any of that backup dirt, backed up dirt that is stuck on the shovel, not spreading anything. All right, good job. So we're going to move to the next one we're moving to scene three. So at 915 a.m. while harvesting, Jim noticed numerous animal droppings on and around the produce garden. So in the chat, we're going to identify the food safety risk and corrective action. Keep the animals out. I see the animal job droppings. I see fences. I'm actually over here taking notes because I want to make sure we identify these things in the future when I do these activities. So we're going to move on to look at the responses and see how well I'm matching up with your response and I see a lot of cleaning it up. So animal droppings is the risk. And so I see a lot of people saying clean it up. The hard part with cleaning up the the feces is there could be a possible. You could also spread it when you're trying to clean it. And so one of the recommendations or best practices is to do is to segregate that area and just identify it as a no harvest zone. And so you kind of figure out your best standard of how to handle the feces in your space as far as corrective actions. So I'm a I see fences and other things. So yes, I forgot to put those in. I'm gonna put that in next time I offer it. And so now we're going to move on to our final scene. And this is scene five. So at 945 am Jim could not locate his harvest containers right away. So he placed the harvest produce directly on the ground. So in the chat. Let's help less identify your food safety risk and your corrective actions. I see that the wood cannot be sanitized soil contamination, no ground. Use sanitize containers do not harvest until proper container. Yep. Love these recommendations soil contamination dirt on the ground. Use a clean tart. Yep. Let's look at the responses. So container on the ground, wooden containers. And when you look at the actual scenario is talking about the produce being directly on the ground and yes soils can be a source of contamination for fresh produce and so someone recommended you know do not harvest you have your container. So I also would suggest that another thing is they see the container that is directly on the ground. There's a recommendation of best practices is to stack the container. So having one that you know will get that remain dirty because that is the one that you're going to use to stack your other containers on top of it. And then there are some places where they just have those wooden containers. I may know a farm very close to me that does that and so a recommendation of adding some type of plastic liner to it to make sure that you're using that as a barrier to the wooden containers because that wooden container could splinter and then cause a cause a physical hazards to the product to the fresh produce. And so congratulations. Thank y'all for interacting with me with this activity. I found out I wanted I developed this to do it in person with with growers and our master gardeners got very mad at Jim. When we did it and I told them they cannot be mean to Jim because Jim is a volunteer and you should be nice to him. We had to work on ways of how you can better communicate to Jim on what you need to do. So as I stated before, so this activity, along with two others so we have the food safety scenario. We have another one that talks about cross contamination that is like a storyboard or activity that you can interact and have volunteers. And then we also have one that's on food safety toolkit. And so this could be something, especially if you're running a community donation garden of an actual interactive activities that you can use to interact with their workers and volunteers to educate them on safe practices. And it's available on our extension store. All right, so going back over our learning objectives. We first identify risk that could lead to cross contamination in the garden. And next we illustrate when you should wash your hands and then we demonstrated food safety risk and correction actions through scenario activities and so I want to thank you all for being a good sports and interacting with the activity. And so this is the end of my presentation. And you can contact me at the information on the slides. And now I will take any questions. Well, thank you, Shannon here it looks like Scott had to leave here I think he got a ride since it's been blizzardy up here in Fargo North Dakota I think he was able to try to get back to Fargo here but I'll do my best to look at the chat and kind of read the questions for you. Okay, and I see one right away is what is the best way to sanitize harvest containers. You want to make sure that you're first cleaning them. So cleaning them meaning taking away that are using soap and water to get rid of the organic matter first. And then as far as sanitizers. I can look for a guide that we have for gardeners that kind of recommends specific sanitizers but whatever you want to use a food gray sanitizer, and you want to follow the instructions that is on the label of that actual sanitizer so depending on what type of sanitizers use, then you want to follow that instructions. So vinegar Becky put in the chat about vinegar so vinegar would probably be more than a set will serve a role as a sanitizer then actually a cleaner so you do want to do some form of cleaning with the actual soap. So finding a good soap alternative for yourself for cleaning and then looking for an appropriate sanitizer and they could be some that are a city gas at base that you might like that'll be appropriate for your sanitizing. And then Mary put in the chat. If a bird picture tomatoes should it be thrown away. Yes. So birds are transmitters of the foodborne pathogen Salmonella, the certain birds. We've done some work and during my doctoral program we did some work on some birds that even flew over feed lots and we saw many of foodborne pathogens from the actual feces so I imagine what can come from their beaks itself but yeah if they are pecking at your tomatoes you want to throw those tomatoes that they pick that away. And then Janice put in the chat bleach with water that is more of a sanitizer and then so you'll use that as your actual sanitizer but you want to make sure that you're doing it at the appropriate level as far as whatever concentration you want to do it at I know normally and especially with our scientific research. We do a 10% bleach solution. Becky here said that never thought of using a tart to gather produce but also that plastic buckets would work nice to for putting produce and so. Yeah, and there are some people like I said the farm that we visited had those wooden containers so use it and I think with the size there there. Wooden containers was similar to the one we saw in Jim's photo and so I for our video that we developed I put like a turkey bag the one that you put the. You use that Thanksgiving and that was a good big enough liner to fill up that container and display to collect produce. Any other questions.  We, with our produce safety Alliance training that we do for the food safety modernization act. It says that is best practices to recommend that you block off that area and you decide you know how far you want to go with that area and kind of segregate that and say that this will be your no harvest zone. There are people who actually have smaller shovels that will scoop it out but you just want to make sure you have everything ready to properly dispose of it right then and there. The only thing there is that if you do not handle it well and drop it that only makes it worse so I think that's why. Even with our trainings we do the no harvest on feel mice and that the thing I'm learning about mice and I'm from Alabama so we don't even call them mice people laugh at us because I call everything a rat. I've heard of people putting up fences or even double up this fences to try to keep past out of there but I know that they find ways to dig in. I will just also you know reaching out to your local extension and outreach to ask them a ways to mitigate them in your field they there are experts in those areas that could give you more suggestions on that. But for feel mice are passed out there you know looking for the proper way of deterrent and I've heard of people doubling up fences. Using. And not for mice but using for some certain animals using the actual plastic animal to deter them from there. That's natural way so that's a question about how to keep natural ways of keeping passed out that's why I think in the couple of weeks of a horticulture is to be here so. I'm reaching out you know asking some of those questions then just finding the appropriate way to deter them is the best way natural way. I've I've heard like I say people using the plastic animals to deter them from there. And someone either at our heart station, our manager there has a gun that deters past I wouldn't go outside when you shoot it because I scare easily. So we have a pest management video that we offer different suggestions and that is one of them using flare gun to deter past any other questions. We had someone that grandpa Gus mouse repellent works well for them for mice and go first I don't know if you know anything about that. No, I told you how me and rats get along. I don't know if I like them much either I guess no. From the from the questions everybody else does not like them either. We want to thank everybody again for joining us. And as Scott said at the beginning of the meeting we have. Julie has a whole list of people that are going to come and speak with you all about different areas related to your topics and she said gardeners and home food preservation and all are the different topics that are going on. So thank you all for joining us. And thank you so much for presenting on this is very interesting to learn about how to keep produce a lot safer and cleaner. All right everybody have a great afternoon and thank you for the well wishes in the chat.


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Hello and welcome to the session. In this session we will discuss the following question and the question says calculate the money required to buy one 350-20 dollar shares at a premium of $7, part 2 275 $60 shares at a discount of $10, part 3 $50 $75 shares quoted at $71.50. Let's start the solution now. In part 1 the number of shares to be bought is given to be $350 so number of shares to be bought is equal to $350. Now $20 shares at a premium of $7 means the nominal value of the share is $20 that is the original value of the share at which the company sells to investors is $20 so nominal value of the share is equal to $20 since the premium is given to be $7 so the market value the price at which stock is bought or sold is equal to the nominal value which is $20 plus the premium which is $7 and this is equal to $27 hence the money required to buy one share is equal to the market value of each share which is $27 we have to find the money required to buy 350 shares so therefore money required to buy 350 shares is equal to $350 into $27 which is equal to $9,450 so this is the answer for part 1 now let's see part 2 we are given that the nominal value of each share is $60 and discount is $10 so in part 2 money required to buy one share is equal to the nominal value which is $60 minus the discount which is $10 and this is equal to $50 now we have to find the money required to buy 275 shares so therefore money required to buy 275 shares is equal to $275 into $50 which is the money required to buy one share and this is equal to $13,750 this is the answer for part 2 now in part 3 we have given the nominal value of each share which is $75 and the quoted price which is $71.50 now the quoted price of a share means its market value so in part 3 we are given the quoted price or the market value of each share so the money required to buy one share is equal to $71.50 we have to find the money required to buy 50 shares so therefore money required to buy 50 shares is equal to $50 into money required to buy one share which is $71.50 and this is equal to $3575 this is the answer for part 3 with this we end our session hope you enjoyed the session


the back we're live this is stink tech on jay fidel this is movies we've learned and we're gonna review hell in the pacific made in 1968 and what can we learn uh from these two enemies in this movie um with shackley rafferro uh captain in the u.s navy uh and uh reserved is it michael lily a captain of the u.s navy non-reserve and uh shackley is um uh a retired judge second circuit chief judge of the second circuit and michael lily is a former uh former attorney general of the state of life so shackley uh this is a very interesting movie i must say and you guys are well qualified to talk about it it's during world war two it involves a uh a downed american pilot um played by uh lee marvin lee marvin and um it's also um a uh i guess a a a fellow who was um in the japanese army his name his name is revealed as shuru hiku kurota and he's played by torsira mafuni which is one of my favorite japanese actors but uh shackley can you give us a kind of an introduction on what this movie is about and why it is significant um i'll be happy to uh title again is hell in the pacific and it was um created in 1968 um by director john borman an englishman who's done done quite a few really good movies as you mentioned it stars two people lee marvin and tashira mafuni and they are they are both um military officers uh marvin is american navy officer ostensibly uh bailed out of an aircraft in the south pacific and mafuni is is a japanese uh officer and they end up uh maroon together alone uh on a small island in the south pacific during uh the pacific uh part of the world of world war two um i was going to say uh lee mar it's interesting because this was this movie was done about 20 years after the end of world war two lee marvin was actually a combat marine he served uh during some of the big battles uh with the marines and world war two was was uh wounded on sypan and uh tashira mafuni also served in the japanese military during world war two so he had real people in a sense playing the the roles that they play on on the screen so they kind of bring that background with them to the to the performances which i i think makes it extra interesting because it's it must have had some brought a lot home you know for both of them while they were in the process of doing that um it's it's all about how they relate to each other during their period on the island and and when they leave the island uh and they go through different phases i think it's kind of a metaphor for the evolution of civilization and i jotted down uh phases of anger hostility mistrust eventually mutual coexistence sharing and cooperation and ultimately differential cultural awareness and again mist distrust um it's it's it's basically kind of a tragedy in a way i think there probably is a greek play or a shakespearean tragedy that must have provided the idea to the director uh but it reminded me of this poem that i'd like to read a little bit of which is one of my favorites it's by reddard kippling the ballad of east and west and it goes oh east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet till earth and sky stand presently at god's great judgment seat but there's neither east nor west border nor breed nor birth when two strong men stand face to face though they come from the ends of the earth i think it captures exactly when we that's the introduction i'll uh chime in as we go along okay uh mike lily your thoughts about this movie why why is this movie as um you know well regarded as it is it is it is a gripping war movie um i first saw it you have to imagine i was off the coast of vietnam during the war and i saw this movie and i was spellbound about these two towering um actors the lee marvin for those that don't remember these two actors lee marvin's one of the greatest actors uh america and to see me phony was not only the greatest japanese actor but he's probably one of the greatest actors of all time and so they both land on this deserted island and it's and it's in the tropical pacific that's actually filmed on an island in the plows which is just north of new guinea and one of the things that's remarkable is there's no coconut trees and i always wondered about that because you know you think about coconuts when you think about tropical islands and the director said he he searched the world for that because he didn't want his actors in an island that had a lot of plenty he he wanted them to be out there uh starving uh not enough water um they were they were that they had they had there was a survival movie as much as uh as a war movie and it was also it was a psychological thriller a great deal of this movie uh is almost in hand of mine uh the the director richley john worman uh planned to have a silent film but then he added dialogue so you've only got two actors so you had to share a mophoney speaking japanese and lee marvin speaking english and no subtitles and you don't need to even understand either language to understand what they're saying and what they're uh trying to do because it's all done by acting and these two characters clashed and they imagine this is a microcosm of world war two the the two japanese the japanese army and the american army are fighting on this little island between these two characters uh and they go through a period of fighting each other but they don't kill each other which is kind of interesting me um they make a make a lot of noise and they make it look like you're going to kill each other but they don't and at one point mophoney captures marvin and he has them tied up up and dragging a rock around the beach and then marvin gets free and then he ties up with mophoney and he has them going around and uh at some point they realize that uh alone they can't survive on this island and so they're going to have to accommodate each other but their testosterone is such that it's an uneasy truth um they they almost don't ever really become friends except near the end and then we talk about that in a little bit but on the island they pretty much decided they're going to have to cooperate if they're going to survive and so they ultimately uh get a lot of bamboo and they're able to build a raft and and they set out now it they didn't know where they were going uh i didn't see any food or water on that raft but they apparently were on that raft for a while um and they braved the elements and there was lots of towering waves anyway they wind up on another beach and it turns out to be a beach with uh fortifications that look like they've been bombed out and and uh pretty decrepit but they think it's a japanese held building and so marvin hides while toshirumi funi goes up to find the japanese and to take to protect li marvin well li marvin sees a bunch of uh things that are the u.s navy or the u.s army and he realizes oh no this is in japanese it's it's american and so he runs up don't you don't you don't he's trying to protect mifuni they're trying to protect each other and and there's a very interesting thing happens they don't see each other mifunis in the building and he and he steps out and he makes a noise and marvin looks up and sees mifuni and he startled and he then he realizes it's me funny and he says i thought you were a jab he'd become he'd become at that point such a friend that he didn't think of him as an enemy he didn't think of him as a jab he was his friend and here they were protecting each other so that's that that is what leads up to um what happens in the end which is very dramatic but but from a cinematography standpoint the the visuals um they got a nomination in the academy awards for best costume um the the only thing on the island other than those two were birds so you heard them talking and birds and that was it and then the island and then they wound up semi-friends and that's what takes them up near the end but uh and and it also had an a very unusual um musical score um it was haunting sometimes it was opera music like phantom of the opera but the the the score was just brilliant uh and this was an extremely difficult film to film just imagine they were out in the middle of nowhere they were living on a rented ship run by some chinese so every day they they'd leave the ship to go ashore and they have to have all everything had to be battery or uh i don't know how they there was no power on that island i mean that island is now you can go there now it's called lee marvin beach you can there there are uh uh trips that will take you out there you can spend the night on this this pristine beach um but getting back to the coconut thing too i always wondered why they didn't fill in on kawai or or any of the wine islands the kooloa there there's plenty of places at voy but it was the coconuts he couldn't have coconuts and they went around that yeah they they flew around the island was looking for a location but they settled on plow that's uh i i found it um a thrilling movie uh i was so captivated when i first saw it in vietnam that later on when i came home like i went and saw it again and then i then saw it recently again and i i i just think it um it came out with a critical acclaim it the critics thought it was a it was a wonderful movie so it got really high praise but it didn't do well in the box office and apparently the reason was there were some other blockbusters that came out that kind of overshadowed it and i'll name name a few of those and you can realize why they were up against a lot of competition there was the battle britain there was where eagles dare which is a wonderful movie the bridge of ramagan that that is a magnificent war movie in germany and castle peep and there's several other um so unfortunately didn't do so well in the box office but it's such a great movie came out in dvd in 2017 and it's all been enhanced and so um if anybody ever wanted to really see a good production of that movie you can do it in dvd or you can get it on youtube yeah it is on youtube i saw it on youtube yeah that's what i'm looking for yeah it would be good to see it on a big screen though because uh borman had some uh nice photography work in that movie especially the scenes where it's see i might need a chorus a cure a chorus always kind of um films of nature uh one thing i was going to mention was uh borman points out uh mike was kind enough to send me an interview with with the director john borman he gave a lot of this background which was interesting one of the things he said was that um marvin didn't speak any japanese and toshiro mcconnie didn't speak any english and they were all on this boat right and uh but but they became good friends they were they apparently they were drinking buddies and so they would drink together a lot and and became very good friends during the during the period of the of the filming and i guess there was a little irritation between the japan they had a japanese crew uh uh for i guess moving their cameras around and and so on but a chinese ship and i guess it was he points out there was a little antagonism there because remember it was very long after world war two uh so i guess some feelings were still running hard but the other thing i mentioned one thing i noticed during the time that they're on the island um you get to see a contrast between uh uh the survival efforts of toshiro mcconnie and and lee marvin larvin kind of flounders around especially in the beginning uh he didn't take the survival materials from his life raft which which mcconnie grabs a hold of and and but then you see mcconnie uh he uh he plants a little garden and he has he has he apparently wove a fish trap that he puts out so he's catching fish and he's cooking fish on the beach and then he hangs up because they're having a kind of adversarial interactions he hangs up some uh kind of like mobiles that he has created which are it really captures i think kind of the shinto buddhist uh personality of mcconnie the way he the way he goes about things uh whereas uh whereas marvin is kind of very loud and aggressive and uh it ambles around like kind of like an ape sometimes it is angry you know he just said they they had to collaborate but i i found the japanese character much more competent at living alone on the desert island he knew how to fish he knew how to cook he knew how to make weapons to the extent they were useful um he knew how to he knew how to live on a desert island and i you know the lee marvin character really didn't uh he was kind of a klutz and you you wonder what he brought to the table um big bulky guy and maybe he was you know what he brought he brought some kind of creativity uh where tishira lufoni was uh he was building a little tiny rap just for himself it was lee marvin's idea and in this moment where he looked up at the birds there were these seabirds and it gave him an idea that maybe they could take a raft to another island because seabirds go from island to island or something and it was his creative idea that led to the larger that was more likely to make it and let me give you my some of my reaction number one is they were in great shape you know for guys who were in the in the military in world war two this is 20 years later 1968 more than 20 years later they were in great shape the two of them and they look like they went to the gym every day uh and it's really interesting um and um you know the other part of it i knew this might be so this was this was brilliant cinematography uh there were scenes that emblazoned themselves on your memory and he for example when he was covered with mud you remember that and only you could only see his eyes this is lee marvin's eyes that was extraordinary it's the kind of thing that that you remember and but i kept thinking of other movies that that that were close by for example lord of the flies lord of the flies where you're in the state of nature and you're operating at some primeval level and you know all of the culture you brought with you was kind of stripped off uh let's see what you can do along in this case two people more of the flies was a whole group of kids uh on a desert island and so there's this whole human experiment going on a la amiel's solo where you you have a premise that is very unusual and you see how people adapt to it um you know there were other movies too for example and we reviewed this a couple months ago a woman of the dunes a japanese movie made in the late 40s or early 50s about a guy who slides down and gets involved in a in a in a in a little uh home in a small town along the coast of japan and you can't get out and there's a woman in there and it's very you know very it's an art film and frankly guys i thought this was an art film um it was as much an art film as i can remember seeing well a war film because there were no no military elements here just these two these two guys um so and i thought that was very interesting and your point about the music mike and you know i thought the music was was was really interesting but it was jazz it was jazz and it was weird jazz weird jazz as you could hear anywhere all over greddish village in 1968 that's what the music would have been in 1968 if they're gonna remake it they gotta use modern music because this was like weird but anyway it was it's an art film of great interest in the fact that they never like shackley said they never really got together they never really became buds um they understood each other and it's that east and west it's out of rugged chipling never the twain will meet but maybe the twain understands and you know 1968 there was an issue about that trying to understand west to east and east to west trying to make sense of the war trying to find a new relationship with japan you know all of that was was in there and i think there's a lot of important issues that are covered in this very sparse kind of movie but somebody has to tell me the differential endings as i don't fully understand you know how the endings play with with the bulk of the movie the original ending as i recall was um they walked away from each other right you're you're thinking about they they never really found each other they never really got to be friends and at the end of the in the one that borman made they just walked away from each other end of story but in the uh the the revised version which played at a film festival um and i can't remember which festival i was in europe um they had a different ending and it's the ending which is on youtube right now it's uh where they they get bombed by somebody i don't know if it was uh a japanese plane or an american plane and they both die uh in a shell in a building which is destroyed which is a kind of vessel that somehow doesn't work as well as the original ending and as i understand it war was really ticked off that they took his original ending out your thoughts let me set it up though um so they're in this building and they find clothes they find food and and importantly they find sake and so they shave themselves so now they're gentlemen uh and of course buffoonie was always the japanese samurai and leave marvin was always the the american guy but but their metaphors for the two cultures and they're coming together they're drinking they're laughing they're friends they're happy um they've survived they got to this island they're clean they're clean shaven they don't see themselves as enemy uh this is as close to friendship as they ever get and there's a uh an august 16 1943 magazine life magazine with the japanese on the cover and buffoonie is flipping through it and there's girls and you know all the stuff that's american in there and he happens on four pictures only one is in that issue um of japanese that are dead dying and captured um and the last one is these japanese that are died in the mud at the battle of tenoroo river at the guadalcanal but seeing these movie these pictures you can see buffoonie's character change from being this friendly guy drinking sake to getting more and more angry more and more just perturbed by this at these staring at this meanwhile uh the marvin is saying now tell me why you don't believe in god they tell me you don't believe in jesus christ but these guys they don't understand each other but he's he's asking him why he doesn't believe in god and buffoonie is starting to yell at him like it like like he does in his it is samurai moves and at one point he says yaka about she was a japanese for a shut up and it's a very uh it's a it's a it's a insulting thing to say yaka my feet is somebody but of course marvin doesn't know what he's saying and but they're out they obviously know that they're angry at each other and marvin gets up and he kicks over the fire pit and he walks over the other other end of this building and he puts on a backpack and he walks out and buffoonie puts on a tie and a hat and he's gotten in the uniform and he walks off and that's how borman played that movie and that's how i saw it when it was originally produced in 1969 and i i was shocked when i saw the the later version and what happened was the producers just changed that ending and when it opened in britain and in japan it had the bombing and they asked borman about it and he said you know it just doesn't work it's kind of they went through all of that effort that survival and getting there and and surviving the thing and it's very cynical he said for them just to kill them and that's how they did it there and he said i hated it and clearly um when you see the two films the the one with the bombing just makes no sense uh the one with them walking off they realize you know what we're still enemies there's you can hear bombing in the background uh and as shackley says uh we don't know whether it's in their heads or it's actually out there but there there is there is bombing or something going on in the background but they obviously realize oh we're actually enemies and then they separate and their friendship ends which is which is a very poignant and sad ending but the the bombing to me was pointless let me offer a thought on that mike this is when they walked away from each other the idea was that it was an imperfect relationship and an imperfect um you know coming together but they each learned things about the other culture and i that's got to be part of his you know intention in this movie so when they walk away from each other and go back to their respective corners go back to their respective altars they're going to take that experience that lesson output you know diversity lesson back to their respective countries and and and so you you have to wonder you have to think what is going to happen in the next chapter if you kill them off that becomes impossible well and also um they don't kill each other so they're enemies and they're still at war but they don't kill each other yeah can i add i i i kept wondering how that movie played in japan you know you're only 20 years after the after the end of world war two you got two people who actually participated in world war two and and and there are people who know the history of of the pacific war um very few japanese soldiers actually surrendered in world war two and i'll bet very even fewer office japanese officers surrendered um and so just for the people for people in japan to see these two interacting and reaching almost of kind of a friendship seems to me would have would have had a very would have been very impactful for a japanese audience but i didn't see anything on google about that but it would be very interesting to know that well i totally agree because macawther had come in and sort of americanized westernized japan and they were still involved in that process by 1968 and so i think they would have liked that that ending that movie you know that a movie in general very very much um you know i i guess my reaction um is that this was um really a contribution to the conversation between the you know the us and japan um and it was a it was important in its own way although apparently not all american audiences liked it that much but i would say the most poignant moment in the movie and i'd be interested in how you guys feel about the most poignant moment in the movie is where um mafuni was subdued lee marvin he had him on the ground uh i think lee marvin was unconscious for some reason and um and he pulled out marvin's knife which was one of those you know 12 inch long yeah it was a real cellar knife and and he had to decide what he was going to do because he could have killed him so easily but he didn't and it's that moment in the movie where you realize that there's some kind of fundamental human connection happening here and it changed it because up to that point they were enemies at that point there was something else happen do you agree or did you find some other moment in the movie that is uh you know as as profound or more profound shackling no i i agree uh the the other part though that i also liked a lot was when they get to the different the set the second island and they and they get into the building after they see that it's they're the only people there mafuni finds this cabinet that has scissors and and he begins to to change himself uh and by cutting off his beard and then that leads to the change of clothes and his metamorphosis back to being a japanese officer and i thought that was pretty interesting because you could see it coming if once he's once he saw those scissors and he started cutting his beard off and uh you could see that things were going to change yeah this was only a temporary adventure the temporary experience and that when you got back to basics they were still enemies mike i could think it was don't do it there were early one at the very first scene or two on the movie was a metaphor for uh the entire movie and that's uh when they they meet on the beach and to sherry mafuni's got this uh stick that looks like a uh a sapphire sword it's like bamboo and and lee marvin has his knife and a and a brand and they're facing off each other like they're in an arena and what happens next is in their own minds but the first thing that happens marvin runs over and he grabs mifuni by the back and by the throat and he stabs him in the back with a knife and you think my god that's the end of the movie and then they're back then the next scene they're back to facing off each other and then mifuni is on marvin and he beats him to a pulp down on the ground well neither neither thing happened they just faced off and then marvin faded into the jungle and so they each saw themselves killing the other but not doing it and that that to me was a metaphor of the whole movie that this thing eventually would become two friends but just for the sake of survival and that was really a remarkable scene and and the uh bornman is playing with us he's telling us what's in their minds and we don't know it we don't realize that it's only in their minds yeah that was and that was a quick ending uh jay there's um there's an interesting discussion by warman in his uh interview but he had a very difficult time although it became greenly good friends mifuni and warman but during the course of the filming they had two scripts one in japanese and one in english and someone who had written a script that they gave mifuni that had him playing a different character and and warman said the character was a buffoon and warman wanted buffuni to be this very structured standard a guy who was uh you know not a buffoon he he wanted him to be a really straight character and every single day he had an argument with mifuni over his characterizations and he had to force mifuni to be this character and not a buffoon and and he had to do it all through an interpreter and the interpreter when the when when warman was criticizing mifuni the interpreter said it is not worth my life to do that you know i can't criticize discerning mifuni he says you have to tell him this tell him he has to do this and the guide the interpreter gets down on his knees and he's almost praying to mifuni and he's telling him what warman is telling him and mifuni hauls off and slaps him perfect perfect but later on um warman met with kurosawa who was the great japanese director and he directed all of mifuni's samurai movies over the years which are great it every single movie is as brilliant um he asked him how do you direct mifuni and kurosawa said you point and he goes like an arrow that's it that's all you do you just very different hey and also he also asked kurosawa what what what uh did he have any suggestions as to how the movie should end and he said kurosawa a complete straight face thought about it and thought about and he said they meet a girl that's woman of the dunes he was he was joking yeah well i have two questions i want to pose to you guys uh and uh let me go with you shakley first what do we learn about you you know the principles of human nature of the species from this movie this deserted island two two enemies experiencing all the things in this movie and there were so many things so many you know little vignettes little challenges uh what do we learn about human nature well i i i would say just that there is a common humanity that we always share we all share and and the difference that the things that make us not want to share with each other and cause problems are cultural differences uh but the common humanity underlies it all if you could just create some circumstances where it can come it can it can surface and become dominant then people can get along fine no matter what their cultures are and i i think i think that's true captain cook believed that was as he traveled around into different civilizations and was able to do business most places until until he ended up on the big island it didn't go so well but for the most part he did just fine he went all over the unknown world and and and and it was because he just believed that we we have a common humanity no matter what our backgrounds and cultures are and i i think that's yeah even though sometimes and then we can't get all that close because the culture stands in the way it is but you have to dig a little deeper to find the common human well and the cultural differences and if you if you don't think about that the cultural differences you go to a place like japan you've never been to japan you don't know anything about japan you're going to be stunned by the cultural differences same thing in china um but we're all people beneath it all and now every place i've been in the world i met lots of really nice local people uh it was more when you got into talking to government officials that you know you had that's really an important point michael i want to ask you a similar question what from this movie do we learn about war about world war two but about war in general well uh boreman was portraying the futility of war i mean it it's not a pro war uh movie so and i'm not saying it's an anti-war but but it uh he was showing how futile it was um and it's it's it's a remarkable story because it's hard to even imagine it happening although i've seen references that it's based on a true story but i've never been able to find that story because these these two characters um they they didn't kill each other because they held they held back they were sworn to kill each other the japanese um they bifoni was sworn to the emperor to fight to the death and uh lee marvin pulls out a survival book and he's reading it and he he says well what you do if you get on a lila like this or in this situation you kill the the you're right right right their enemy and so they're being told by by their cultures you know sometimes culture either gets in the way or it actually helped in this case the culture was in the way because stripped of their culture and left to survival mode on this island they resorted to to looking beyond our skin color and our culture and where we came from and working together to that they could only survive by working together they could only build that raft to get across to that other island by working together so in many ways stripping culture out of there got them down to their basic uh where they they were they could work together just for the sake of survival i think that's a remarkable tale yeah yeah and as i said before it really isn't a war movie no it's a movie it's a movie where these guys are and they're thrown into it because of a war but when you see them engage in the screen in the in the course of the movie they're they're really they're enemies but they're not a war it's different it it it uh the fact that um that he walked that mofuni walked off it wasn't i could see why they they they used the bomb ending in japan because um he was sworn to kill his enemy and he didn't and he walked off so killing him off uh saves that it protects me fully from from criticism that that he didn't do the last gas to either kill him or kill his enemy yeah that's a bit bushido you know he should get it well that reminds me of the guy on wam you remember that story it's a hawaii story there was a japanese soldier on wam for i don't know decades after the war and he was still at war in the mountains of wam and finally uh they found him but he had never given up and yes yeah about 27 years now let me ask you guys the last question and that is how do you rate this movie on 1 to 10 and you know i i advise you that many of our reviewers go over 10 so if you wish to go over 10 you can mic you first 11 as i said i was in the vietnam war when i watched this movie and everybody on my ship was spellbound and i was i just loved it but i i loved it from so many different levels oh i love the characters i love uh because i love toshiri mifuni and lee marvin for their other for their their other productions but uh the the visuals you could i mean being from hawaii i felt like i was on a hawaii island without coconuts uh so from from the characterizations the visual the the time that they were world war two um and that these two guys could overcome major difficulties culturally to survive uh to me it's just it's over the top it's over the top but it's not soupy at no point is it soupy and no point is it you know straight hollywood you you really get an idea of of um you know of how they felt in it when faced with this the reality of the situation uh shackley what what do you what do you rate the movie at and you don't have you don't have to agree with mike by the way i i i give it a 10 i give it a 10 i thought it was a very good movie um that i kept a couple funny things so you know you think about when you watch in movies i got kept thinking why did he lose his pistol you know maybe the aviators or in those days in world war two would carry a pistol and you saw he threw the the rounds into the fire at some point and i thought well that's unsat you shouldn't have lost that pistol yeah yeah and oh and uh oh the other thing is they built that raft out of bamboo i don't know if you've ever tried to cut bamboo but that's a that's very difficult to cut big pieces of bamboo like that and they they didn't uh they sort of passed that uh without explaining or showing how they work together to actually build that raft but that's a very minor thing yeah i'm talking about bamboo uh couldn't they improve the water catchment system by using bamboo right bamboo shoots and they they really solved that problem we solved a lot of problems and uh there's a statement about that i i suspect that without without um having the raft and not caring about the raft the two of them could have lived in that island for a long time and because they had worked out the systems of giving nutrition and water and so forth anyway we're we're out of time shackley raffetto judge shackley raffetto captain shackley raffetto and and and mike lily uh general attorney general mike lily and captain mike lily thank you very much for joining us today it's been a great discussion a great review of a great movie aloha if you liked this show why don't you give us a like or subscribe to our channel thanks so much