Coming up on DTNS, Apple's designing its own modems now is Twitter killing periscope and your groceries delivered in 10 minutes by gorilla. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, December 11th, 2020 in Los Angeles, I'm John Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. From Studio Colorado, I'm Shannon Morse. Drawing the top tech stories from Cleveland, I'm Len Peralta. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Ah, we were just talking about storing cleaning products and stocking up on procedures and all kinds of good stuff on good day internet. You can get that wider conversation, become a member at patreon.com slash DTNS. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. The NPD Group says that the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X launches last month helped set a new November record of $1.4 billion spent on new video game hardware an increase of 58% when compared to a year ago. But as for the top console of the month, Nintendo and Sony split the win with the PS5 being the best selling hardware platform and consumer spending and the Nintendo Switch leading the market in units sold. Wow, that's crazy. U.S. Federal Communications Commission voted unanimously to establish a list of equipment to be removed from U.S. networks that receive government subsidies as well as establishing a $1.6 billion fund to reimburse carriers for replacing gear deemed a security threat. That second was the big part of here. This will apply to broadband phone and wireless companies. The FCC also voted to revoke China Telecom's authorization to operate in the United States and affirmed its designation of Huawei as a national security threat. This comes after Huawei appealed the FCC's 2019 classification of the company as a national security threat. Microsoft announced that X64 app emulation was coming to Windows on ARM that was back in September. The company is now rolling out the feature to Windows Insiders in the dev channel. Microsoft hasn't said yet when emulation will come to stable Windows builds. The company also announced that Flight Simulator will come to the Xbox Series X and S consoles by next summer available with Game Pass at launch. Brave Software, makers of the Brave browser, announced a new news reader service called Brave Today designed to provide personalized news feeds without tracking what you read. The Brave Today CDN separates your IP address from the content you're requesting using TLS encrypted traffic from a load balancing service and the CDN also pads plain text with extra characters before encryption and strips out identifying headers. Personalization is handled locally in the browser. Cydia, the makers of an app store for jailbroken iPhones, has filed a lawsuit against Apple accusing Apple of what it calls, quote, anti-competitive acquisition and maintenance of an illegal monopoly over iOS app distribution. Cydia has existed for just about a year longer than Apple's own app store been around a while. Yeah, first app I ever got on an iPhone was from Cydia, so there you go. Alright, let's talk a little more about Disney's investor day yesterday. Wow, they announced like 50 new things, mostly in the Marvel Star Wars and Pixar universes, but among those announcements were some non-content things as well, including a price increase. Starting March 26th, Disney Plus in the US will go from $6.99 a month to $7.99 a month or $80 a year. In Europe, Disney Plus goes up a little more from 6.99 euros to 8.99 euros. The bundle of Disney Plus, Hulu, and ESPN Plus also goes up a dollar in the US to 13.99. And in January, Disney will start offering a bundle that includes the more expensive commercial free version of Hulu in the US for 18.99. Disney also announced Star, a free tier in some non-US versions of Disney Plus that will be made up of content from ABC, FX, Freeform, Searchlight, and 20th Century Studios. So essentially, a lot of the stuff that they would put on Hulu in the US will go on Star outside the US. Star will roll out to some European countries, Canada, New Zealand, February 23rd. It'll show up on a sixth brand tile on the app's home screen. A service similar to this called Star Plus will launch for Latin American subscribers in June. That one will offer Disney-owned brands alongside ESPN content, including some live linear sports. And Disney announced that Disney Plus has now reached 86.8 million paid subscribers worldwide as of December 2nd. That's close to the 90 million Disney had projected it would reach by the end of its fiscal 2024. So it's plenty ahead of schedule. Disney now projects 230 to 260 million subscribers by the end of fiscal 2024. Right now, about 30% of its 86.8 million are through Disney Plus Hot Star in India. So you've got a big number in the United States, big number in India, and then the rest of it's kind of spread around the rest of the world. I mean, the content announcements yesterday, I was like, wow, you've got some projects in the works. So the increase in costs for the consumer, again, in the US, it's just a dollar per month. It's a little bit more if you're in the EU. And there are quite a few other bundles that Disney's obviously putting together to try to give someone somewhere in the world the tier that they want at a price that they will pay for. But when you have all this content, you've got to pay for it. And it doesn't surprise me that Disney Plus, which has been a real hit right out of the gate. I mean, look at the numbers that they thought they were getting by 2024. They're going to hit that possibly by the end of the year this year. So yeah, it's a brave new world. Yeah, I'm not surprised by the price increase given the production quality that we have seen coming out of things like the Mandalorian. So they've got to make that money somewhere. And a dollar increase to me is minimal enough that I would say, OK, I'll be more than happy to pay that in order for me to see more of this amazing content that y'all have been creating. And honestly, like, I am not surprised that they have already hit 86.8 million paid subscribers because literally just in my own life, so many of my friends that have kids, every single one of them has purchased Disney Plus. So it is not surprising at all. Yeah, they kept that price really low to drive adoption that obviously worked. And so it's not a shock to see him raise the price raising it a single dollar. I think really does help people swallow it and not feel like, oh crap, now it's getting really expensive. I might have to rethink this. And they buried the announcement of the price release under an avalanche of Star Wars Marvel and Pixar announcements, right? Because they know they already have families and kids and nothing that they announced is going to drive families and kids away. Don't get me wrong. But a lot of that Star Wars content, a lot of that Marvel content is really going to make people think, oh wait. So after the Mandalorian is done, maybe I should keep it because I want to see WandaVision or I want to see that Andor thing or I want to see the Ahsoka spin off. Like there's and the list goes on and on and on, right? I mean, I'll probably spend the majority of court killers on Monday just going through all the things they announced here. I'm glad you mentioned that because I kind of fall into that category of like it's just me and my husband in our household. And we considered maybe we should cancel it after we watch Mandalorian because I've already seen all the Disney movies when I was a kid. But now that they've introduced all this new Marvel content coming out next year, I'm like, maybe we should pay for it because it's still a good price. Yeah, I think when Disney Plus was first, you know, announced and the launch was imminent, I was kind of like Disney. I mean, yeah, like I don't, I'm not a babysitter really very much these days. I don't have little kids. I've kind of seen the Disney movies I think I'm going to see. And I it to me, I was like, maybe not the target audience, but the Mandalorian did come out. I've become hooked as many people have been. And I think that, you know, Disney was hoping that that would be the case, but it has been a runaway success. And there are all these spin offs that now can happen, even with people who weren't super aware of of the whole, you know, universe before, where they have now become really into this one show. And now care about these spin offs that would have been really hard to sell them otherwise.  And it's it's interesting where the company goes because sure, they still have that catalog of, you know, that, you know, Cinderella's kind of stuff. But it is, it is greatly ballooned into something totally different. That's going to make them a lot of money. Yeah, the catalog only works a little bit in keeping people around. It really doesn't even attract people. Honestly, you need new content to attract people. And honestly, you need new content to keep them around too. Well, moving on, we have some news coming out of Apple, who is also making some changes to probably bring them some more money. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman's sources say Apple's senior vice president of hardware technologies, Johnny Sruji, told Staff Thursday that Apple is designing its own cellular modem to replace chips it buys from Qualcomm. Apple bought Intel's modem business in July of 2019. Apple also signed a six year patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm in 2019. And that means Qualcomm gets paid whether Apple uses Qualcomm modems or not. Yeah, so everybody's happy. I'm sure Qualcomm would rather sell them the modem too, but they're going to cash a check from Apple on the patents they agreed to. And now that explains why Apple signed to those agreements. Some people were taken off their stride when Apple signed those agreements at the time. They were using Intel modems for a while, then they bought Intel's modem service and switched to Qualcomm. But it all sort of makes sense now, which is they needed to go with the proven 5G modems from Qualcomm until they could get their own designs out there. And they wanted to make sure they didn't have future problems with Qualcomm, so they signed all those patent licensing agreements. And it just continues the trend of Apple designing their own hardware chips. So the A-chips that are in the iPhone and iPad, the M-chips that are now in the laptops, the U-chip for Wideband, the chip that's in the Apple Watch now, the modem, it's going to keep going, I think. Yeah, I mean Qualcomm having a little bit of a six year patty is nice as well. Yeah, like you said, the company is probably like, okay, well, let's think of where we go going forward. But they've got a few years. Yeah, and I'm sure it's got a pile of cash too. I bet Qualcomm has kind of seen this coming too. Like given the trend that we've seen with Apple and given how the public has really seen all the changes that Apple has been making as far as their hardware goes, they've had very positive results from the public as far as like benchmarking and stuff. So I'm sure Qualcomm was like, I feel like this is happening. So we probably need to change our business plans as well. And in a certain way, Apple showing what you can do with the ARM system for the M1 in a laptop is good for Qualcomm. Because Qualcomm can now say, look, we can design those kinds of chips for you, smaller company that doesn't have the resources Apple does. Oh yeah. Well, some things happening over in the Twitter verse within Twitter itself app researcher Jane Manchin-Wong found a line of code in the Twitter app itself indicating that the service may shut down its Periscope live broadcasting service. The code points to a PS app shutdown learn more URL string with a link to a FAQ about Periscope. Although the link isn't live. It's there. Wong noted that she hadn't seen any shutdown notices in the separate Periscope apps code, but much of Periscope's core functionality has already been integrated into Twitter live. So you might say, yeah, maybe don't need both. Twitter required Periscope back in 2015 before the service actually launched. Yeah, that was the Meerkat scan, right? Twitter was going to get taken down by Meerkat if it didn't, if it didn't act soon. This doesn't surprise me much. A lot of folks in our chat room earlier were like Periscope's still around and it's got, I don't know, 10 million users or something like that. But the idea of using the Periscope app to stream is to use the Periscope app to more efficiently stream to Twitter. Right. And so it makes sense that Twitter would just take that team, take that technology, incorporate it into Twitter live until such point where the user base on Periscope was low enough that they could say, do everything you do on Periscope on Twitter live and Periscope feeds Twitter live anyway. So we really don't need two different apps. I guess one of my big questions about doing more live video on Twitter, which I only had one friend that I know that was using Periscope in a very consistent format is how are they going to market this towards creators as opposed to doing live video on another platform that they can monetize. If creators can't monetize it, I don't see how it would be beneficial or how it would really grow for somebody who, you know, needs to put content out there, of course, but maybe doesn't have a sponsorship integrated into their live video and needs to have some way to monetize that. Yeah, I think that's, that's a really good point, Shannon, and it's also the whole Periscope thing back in 2015. And Miracad or any sort of live video was kind of event based. Were you at some sort of a protest rally, you know, or were you getting somebody on camera that, you know, it was important for a lot of people to see in real time, or natural disaster, that kind of stuff. It was, it was very much that sort of thing. And sure, there was crop up, unfortunately, all the time where there's situations where you want that kind of live capability, but so many other apps have that now. And the social aspect of apps like, you know, Instagram or TikTok or Snapchat, they've, they've figured this out in a way where it makes more sense. And I don't know that many people on my side either who are like, Ah, Periscope, that's the way to share with the world, even though you can do that. I don't, I don't think Twitter is thinking going forward. That's what they need to do with this. I think it's going to be much more of a, Oh yeah, all that fun social stuff that you do when you're talking live for a while, making dinner or, you know, singing or chatting with your friends type of thing. You can do that on Twitter now and maybe Periscope needed to be unbundled. Yeah, that makes sense to me. And Twitter Live is not meant to be a monetization platform. It's meant to be an adjunct to keep you using, watching, creating on Twitter.  You can do it. During the summer, I saw a lot of people using Twitter Live to do all kinds of streams and they've got partnerships with sports to provide live streams through Twitter that way. So, so it's a different situation. The TechCrunch article did kind of ask, like, is that smart though? Shouldn't they be trying to do with Periscope what TikTok did with something that had been around in Snapchat or the app 12 seconds? If you go back even farther and figured out how to make an explosion out of something that wasn't new, but they figured out a new twist to it, couldn't Periscope have been that? So I fully expect that someone's going to come along and do a live streaming app that is kind of the TikTok of live streaming. That's a thing that feels like there's a niche for. Well, more Twitter news today. Meanwhile, the company announced that it is acquiring the team behind Squad. If you're not familiar with Squad, it's a social screen sharing and video chat app. It's very popular with the younger set. The Apple shut down on Saturday and Twitter shut it down. And the Squad team will lead a product in Twitter's design, engineering and product department. Squad previously partnered with Snap and used many of the SnapKid developer tools. So interesting that they're coming to Twitter. Squad CEO Esther Crawford told TechCrunch last year, when the pandemic first struck, Squad usage had spiked 1,100%. Wow. That's a lot. It's a big spike. Twitter achieved its squad goals, you might say. Yes, indeed it has. Folks, if you want to make puns like that, you can join our conversation in the Discord or you could actually have a substantive conversation. That happens quite a lot in there, quite a lot more often. Join by linking to a Patreon account, patreon.com, slash D T N S. All right, Shannon, there is a big vulnerability getting lots of headlines. Can you explain it to us today? Yes, I can. So Microsoft has identified a malware campaign, which it is calling Adrozec, which began as late as May last this year, 2020, peaked in August, and it's still ongoing to this day. So Adrozec works against Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Yandex browsers on Windows to inject ads into the search results in order to collect affiliate fees. So they're just making money off of ads that you might find in your search results. So the malware arrives whenever users are tricked into visiting and downloading software from malicious domains. It appears as legitimate audio related software like audio lava.exe, some kind of executables, quick audio.exe or converter.exe. It also registers as a Windows server service for persistence so that it can come back on reboot. It then modifies or installs browser extensions, modifies browser DLLs, and it also changes security preferences. So the malware is used to inject ads on Firefox. It attempts to steal credentials and on Edge. It turns off security controls that detect unauthorized changes to secure preferences and the modifications to security settings expose devices to additional risks as well. So currently Adrozec is using 159 unique domains with each hosting an average of 17,300 URLs and each URL hosts an average of 15,300 unique malware examples. So that does make it hard to detect by signature based antivirus software, but something like Windows Defender that could be able to detect it because that works a little bit differently. So users infected by Adrozec are advised to reinstall their browsers. My personal opinion on this is this is not a critical, critical campaign. It is something that we have seen many, many times in the past with ad injections and trying to get people to download things. So using good security hygiene whenever you are doing searches online and using general consensus of what you would expect to find if you're doing specific searches can definitely help with protecting you from this kind of attack. It doesn't seem like a unique attack. When I first saw this this morning in my feed, I was like, oh, here we go again. But it seems to be getting a lot more attention than these kinds of attacks usually do. Is it just because of the fact that it's hitting four browsers? Yeah, I think that in that way it is unique that it's persistent and it's hitting those four browsers, which in essence Yandex does run on Chrome source code as well. So keep that in mind too. But it's smart enough to be able to do that to kind of change how it is going to inject malware onto a machine based on what kind of browser you're currently using. But in the sense that ad injections are extremely common. These have been happening for years and years and years. So that is not necessarily new. It's just the way that they are implementing this attack is new. Yeah, it's pretty pervasive. I guess that's the other thing is it's a very successful version of this. Well, we don't usually cover funding rounds, you know, companies that get money on DTNS unless it really affects the end user. But a recent round went to a German company in the food delivery business called Gorillas. That's right, Gorillas. Gorillas is an interesting company because it promises 10 minute grocery delivery on average using bicycle delivery people. It was founded back in May and operates in Berlin and Cologne, Germany. Google employs its writers directly. They're not gig workers. So it's a little different in that regard. It also uses what some call dark convenience stores. Those are small centrally located stores that it stocks products in carries all the things that convenience store would have. But the convenience store itself is not open to foot traffic. It's just a place to the Gorilla folks get their stuff out of the store and send it off to whoever has ordered them. So the key to procuring its own supply of food so it has healthy margins at normal retail prices. Gorilla charges a delivery fee of 180 euros and it plans to expand in Germany in hopes to open its first location outside Germany in Amsterdam. Similar services like DJA and Weezy in Europe and GoPuff in the U.S. also use the dark convenience store model. Yeah, doesn't mean evil convenience store. It just means you can't walk in. What's the word for the kitchens that operate? Ghost kitchens. Ghost kitchens. Yeah. They only do delivery through like DoorDash or Uber Eats. Sure. And I mean, I know that also sounds ominous like ghost. Ghost to cooking my food. Well, if you don't have to have a storefront and, you know, a place to, you know, seed people and you can make good food. And a lot of people want that delivered anyway. I mean, it makes perfect sense. So I get what Gorillas is doing here. I had not heard of this company before, but I think more and more this type of thing will make a lot of sense because you can supply and then deliver and you're taking care of the entire process yourself rather than having to partner with a 7-11 or something. Yeah. And it's expensive to do that because you have to run the whole thing. But the folks at Gorillas seem to feel like they have the magic sauce to be able to like, no, no, we procured the deals. We've got the good supply chain management going on. We've got the logistics because remember Cosmo back in 1999 tried to do the exact same thing Gorillas is doing and couldn't afford it. It was just too expensive. I just really want to know if everybody is required to dress up like a gorilla to deliver your food when they get hired by Gorillas. That's very important. All the pictures we're seeing show the riders on the bikes in gorilla costume. So if anyone in Berlin and Cologne has used Gorillas to get a 10-minute grocery delivery, let us know if a gorilla brought it to you or not. Right. And have you witnessed anyone be like, it's a gorilla on a bike. Is that effective? That's such great marketing. And it brought me the milk that I needed for my recipe. Okay, let's talk about drones, shall we? The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, also known as DARPA, is busy developing its Gremlin's project that can grab drones out of the sky. Three X-61A gremlins air vehicles, GAV, flew for more than two hours in the third series of test flights. They were unsuccessful, but barely that. DARPA tried unsuccessfully to capture the GAVs using a docking bullet extended from a C-130. The agency says it was inches away from success. They feel pretty confident that they're getting there. The gremlins project has been in the works for several years, and DARPA believes that being able to carry out such operations will, quote, dramatically expand the potential uses of unmanned air vehicles in conflict situations. Grabbing drones. Anybody? It's a pretty cool product that the Air Force or the Department of Defense has been working on for decades. They have done similar tests back in the 60s, but the chief advantage of this system that they're developing is that they ideally would like to pick up the drone and then still be able to redeploy it.  The idea is that you can deploy and redeploy while it's flying, which is huge because then you don't need to land and then you can still carry out operations. It's all part of a push to develop basically swarm-based devices that allow you to overwhelm an enemy's defenses by giving you them a lot of small targets to hit instead of just one giant one. Yeah, and this is why I often will try to say quadcopter or UAV when we're talking about, like, DJI drones, because these are drones. Like, these are the ones that have been called drones for a long time. They're not the quadcopter you use to take pictures when you're out in the park.  They get shoved down. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, good stuff. Let's check out what's in the mailbag. Kevin wrote in about a conversation that we had on good day internet. If you don't catch the wider conversation, boy, are you missing out because we love to talk about all sorts of stuff. And Kevin says, I really enjoyed the conversation on the old timey sayings. We were all coming up with, with, with our own sometimes stuff that we understood and sometimes stuff that we didn't. Kevin says, I really enjoyed that segment. And one of my favorite sayings is the whole nine yards. I never knew what that meant. Then I looked it up and it has quite the history. He links us to an npr.org article, which we'll have in our show notes that indeed it is an interesting story. And Kevin says, personally, I like the ammunition belt origin theory. Yeah. So back in World War Two, the length of an ammunition belt was around nine yards. Nine yards. So you could say he shot off the whole nine yards in a pie in a plane, like when you're shooting ammunition out of the plane. But some people think it refers to sales or cement truck capacity. There's no one really knows. That's why that's why we love talking about this stuff on GDI because sometimes these these old sayings are sort of shrouded in mystery. You don't know really where they came from. Yeah. And you'd learn a little something indeed. If you've got feedback, it could be something like Kevin's where you've got a story to share with us. Question, comment about anything that we talk about on the show. Please send them over to us. We love getting your feedback. Feedback at DailyTechNewShow.com. 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Hey, this is Brett and this is a 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium. This car is stock number 11807ZA. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, you're new and used sports car headquarters. This 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium has the 5-liter V8 engine, home-sold 460 horsepower. This car has been fully-safetyed and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. Has a fresh oil and filter change, all the fluids have been checked and tapped off and this car is 100% ready to go. We're going to go inside, start it up, take a look under the hood, take a look in the trunk in this video. Race red is the color and we shoot all of our videos in 1080p, 60 frames per second. So if you have HD capabilities on your computer, tablet, smartphone, or television, I highly recommend turning them on right now because it is your best way to check out the quality condition and options of the car before seeing it in person. 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Fon hwn di, nwerth eto i chi gyd. When I spoke to you on Friday, I said I would report back with the outcome of the discussions we held over the weekend about the new set of national measures which will be put in place here in Wales when the fire break comes to an end a week from today next Monday. Ministers have been meeting throughout the weekend to consider the final details of these measures. Our plans and our discussions have had to adapt to the unexpected announcement by the Prime Minister that England will start a month-long lockdown on Thursday. I want to be absolutely clear that our fire break will end as planned and as promised on Monday, November 9. But we do now have to consider the impact the English lockdown will have on the next steps we take in Wales. We need to do this because we share a long and porous border between Wales and England.  And every day, a huge volume of goods and services flow through Wales to England and vice versa. The English lockdown inevitably has an impact on people who live in Wales but work in England, on companies operating in both England and Wales and on businesses trading along the border. We will be coming out of our fire break just as England begins its month-long lockdown. And it is really important that, as we open up, Wales doesn't become an escape for people seeking to circumvent the new tighter restrictions imposed by the Prime Minister. We want to keep Wales safe and we want to keep the United Kingdom safe as well. Now, when the fire break ends next Monday, there will be a new set of national measures which will replace the previous local restrictions. But more important than any rules, guidance or regulations, which we put in place, will be the part which each one of us plays in responding to the ongoing public health emergency we face in Wales. We can introduce new laws but these will only be successful if we all do everything we can to reduce our exposure to the virus by keeping the contacts we have with other people to a minimum at home, in work and when we go out. We need to do the minimum, not the maximum which the rules allow or real strength lies as it has been throughout the pandemic in the choices we make and the actions which we take together. Now, when we came out of lockdown in the spring, we took a cautious approach, relaxing restrictions gradually to make sure that we did not lose all the gains we had worked so hard to achieve. We will once again take that approach. For the first two weeks after the fire break ends, the national measures will be designed to maximise the impact of everything that we have done together during the fire break period to control the spread of the virus and we will review the situation in the fortnight's time to see whether we can make any further changes. I turn out to what all this means in practice. During the fire break, it has only been possible to see the people you live with within your own home. Now, as a result of the fire break and all we have done, we can do more. We all want our homes to be welcoming places, but we also want them to be safe places. One of the most common misconceptions about coronavirus is that we catch it from people we don't know. In fact, we are more likely to catch it from and pass it on to the people we are in closest contact with every day. These are our families, our loved ones and the people we live with. As from Monday 9 November, two households in Wales will be able to join together to form a bubble or extended household. To help keep everybody as safe as possible at home, only people from your own household or that extended household will be able to meet in your own home. The rules around meeting people are perhaps the most difficult that we have to consider and that is why we ask people to think about what they should do rather than simply what they can do. We know that changing the rules to allow two households to join together and to meet at home, which will be very valuable for many, many households in Wales, doesn't reflect the family dynamics of many people and it doesn't enable friends and young people to meet. Beyond November 9, there will be new arrangements to meet indoors in other settings such as pubs, bars, cafes and restaurants, but because all these places will now be closed in England, we are having to think further about how the hospitality sector in Wales can operate in these new circumstances and that consideration will continue into this afternoon. In relation to organised activity, up to 15 people will be able to meet together to take part in an indoors activity and up to 30 in outdoors activities provided of course, as ever, that all social distancing, hand hygiene and other Covid safety measures are followed. As from the 9th of November, schools will reopen in full. Working from home will become even more important and all business premises, which have been shut since the 23rd of October, will be able to reopen again on Monday of next week. Local authority services will resume reflecting local circumstances and places of worship will be able to reopen. There will be no travel restrictions inside Wales, but during the month-long lockdown in England, travel will not be permitted outside Wales without a reasonable excuse. Now as I explained on Friday, we continue to see large numbers of people falling ill with coronavirus in Wales. We have over a thousand hospital beds occupied by people with coronavirus-related conditions. Very sadly, again over this weekend, we had to report more families losing loved ones to this awful virus. We still have a week left of the firebreak period. A week to make a real difference to the course of this virus, to prevent our NHS from being overwhelmed and to save lives. As ever, I wanted to thank everyone for everything that you have done so far. Together, we continue to keep Wales safe. Diolch yn fawr i chi gyd. As I turn to take questions from journalists, all the answers, as you know, will be broadcast live on our own social media challenges. First today, over to Dan Davies of BBC Wales. Thanks First Minister, and be really grateful if you could answer these in English and in Welsh please. You said this morning that people should only do what is genuinely necessary, but you're permitting people to do all sorts of things that may not be genuinely necessary after the firebreak to go to the pub or go out for a meal. Aren't you in effect saying that if people should only leave their homes when it's genuinely necessary, then society is basically being asked to impose its own lockdown? Dan, what I'm saying to people in Wales is this, that we will have this new simple set of national rules beyond the firebreak period, but that if people approach that period by asking themselves what is the maximum that I can do, how many things can I now take part in in Wales, how many people can I meet, how far can I travel, that that will simply lead us all back into the difficulties that we have faced in this autumn. So what we have to have is a set of national rules together with the ongoing determination of people in Wales to do the right thing for every one of us to ask ourselves that question. What contribution can we make to keeping ourselves and others safe? And that doesn't mean trying to stretch the rules to do even more. It means taking that responsibility in our own lives to do the things that keep us all safe. That's the message I was trying to convey this morning and I want to convey it again now. People in Wales have made the most enormous effort. When the firebreak is over, I do not want that to be a signal to people that those efforts can come to an end. If we're ready to get the benefits of the firebreak period, we all need to behave in the weeks that follow by asking us not what can I do, but what should I do. And in that way, we will go on together helping to bring the coronavirus under control and to give us a pathway through to Christmas and beyond. So anegais pwy sydd gais i ddan i hefyd i bobl angymru eiwyr, o'r cyfnod, o'r toriad tan. Y cwestiwn i'w nid beth alla i wneud ond beth dylai i wneud. Beth i'w y cyfraniad alla i wneud i warchodd fe hwnna'n a pobl eirall? A beth wyddim yn ysiau weld ar ôl y cyfnod o'r toriad tan i'w bobl just feddwl beth alla i wneud an o'r dda'u, a rheola dda'u gennyd leithol a asymlach. Ffaint o bobl alla i gwrdd da, ble o ble alla i deithio. Dyda hwnna ddim yn mynd i lwydo i helpu ni i gyd i ddeliw gyda'r lydain adcoron y virus. A ffordd gorau i wneud e, i wneud gyd cariwm lan gyda popeth i wneud i wneud a gilydd. I, cael gwared arcaron y virus amma angymru trwy, wneud pethau mewn ffordd sy'n cymryd cyfrifol debau sy'n dany i gyd ac amddwyn mewn ffordd sy'n gallu helpu ni i warchod pobol sy'n agos un i ac cymryd gyfan. Fy hi eich yma, y Y Uned o'r Uned Oedzydd y Llywodraeth peida? Fydwodd i gweithio why cymuned yma sy'n gyfeilio gyda'i gwybod a'r rhan o'r pethon yn gweithio'r Llywodraeth? Fy bo i fod yn gallu bod y maen i'n gweithio hyd yn fwrdd. A dyna sy'n gweithio'n ffaith i amser o ymchwil o',r bobl. Fy oherwydd mae Uned o'r Llywodraeth. Well, Dan, if we were not part of the United Kingdom, we would not be having a discussion about furrow at all, and the millions and millions of pounds that have been spent in supporting people who are unable to work during coronavirus would not be here for us to use. So, of course, I think it strikes me and it will strike people in Wales as unfair that when we asked for flexibility, we were told that none was possible, and when the UK government decided to move for England, suddenly that flexibility was found. The Treasury is the Treasury for the whole of the United Kingdom, not just one part of it. But without the UK Treasury and without being part of that great insurance policy, we wouldn't be debating whether or not we were getting furrow on fair terms because we wouldn't be getting help with furrow at all. And where independence is concerned, we have already an independent Senate here able to make decisions that are right for Wales. Throughout the coronavirus period, I have used independently the powers that we have as a Welsh government to make decisions that are right for Wales. So, I sometimes think the debate, the polarising debate between independence and what we've got misses the point, really. We have independent scope to act and use it all the time, but we do it under the umbrella that the United Kingdom provides to us, and one which we have drawn on the strength of that throughout this crisis. Dan Dychfawr, over to Adrian Masters of ITV Wales. Thank you, First Minister. You said that discussions continue this afternoon about the hospitality sector. You had promised all sectors that they would get a week's notice to be able to prepare. Can you tell them that they will get that decision today? And also, can you confirm what sort of things you're looking at? Is it keeping pubs and restaurants closed altogether or different rules in border areas? Adrian, I don't want to keep those places closed. I want to see them reopen in Wales. But the Prime Minister's decision over the weekend does inevitably create a different context. If pubs are closed along the border in England, then there is bound to be a risk that people will try to break the law, because the law in England will say to them that they should not travel into Wales, because pubs here will be open and serving alcohol. So, I don't want our police forces to be diverted into having to police the border because we have a situation that we hadn't anticipated and we haven't had a chance to think through. Had that not happened, I would simply have been announcing today that everything would reopen on the same terms as they would have operated on 22 October. But the context has changed. It's important we talk to the sector, that we get a set of arrangements that work for them and that prevent unintended consequences from causing us difficulties beyond that sector. And I want to get those decisions as quickly as possible, but more than getting them quickly, I want to get them right. And that means being prepared to talk to people, hear their views and then to come to the decisions that we will need to make. Thank you. And could you also tell me what you're thinking is on visits to care homes? That's something that's important for the mental well-being of residents as well as families. Will visits be allowed to take place? Well, care homes are a constant cause of concern to us all, because once a virus gets into a care home, we know how fast it can spread amongst a very vulnerable population and we know the devastation that can follow. And we've tried our best to learn the lessons from the earlier part of the year. Our care home visits are still happening in Wales. And while I don't want to say this in the sense of offering false hope to people, one of the things that we do have some optimism that things will develop over the weeks ahead is that a new generation of tests may become available where people will be able to administer themselves and they'll be able to get the answers very quickly within, let us say, half an hour. So I have asked our officials here to work with the care home sector to see as those tests become available, where the use for care home visiting would be a priority, one of the top things that we would use those tests for as they become available to us in Wales. Because if that were the case, someone could come to a care home, administer the test themselves while they were waiting in the car, and within half an hour they would know that they had a test that was positive or negative. And if it was positive, of course, you couldn't visit, but if it was negative, the visit could go ahead. And I think that does offer us a different path through this very difficult dilemma where we want to protect people who live in care homes, but of course we want people to be able to have the comfort of knowing that they can be seen by their loved ones as well. And if those tests do come on stream and there is some optimism that they will, then care home visiting is at the top of the list of things that we would want to explore for putting them to work here in Wales. Adrian, thank you. Over to Andy Davies, a Channel 4. Thank you. First Minister, you said there will be no travel permitted outside Wales without a reasonable excuse. What does that mean in terms of people visiting Wales from England? Will the Welsh regulations prohibit that, regardless of what the English regulations say? No, it will be the same broad system on both sides of the border. People who live in Wales but work in England will have a reasonable reason for travelling to work, and people who live in England and work in Wales will equally have a reasonable excuse for coming across the border to work here. But it will be a restricted list of essential purposes rather than the normal toing and froing across the border that you would have seen in less fraught and difficult times. And what would your message be to those people in England who might be considering coming to Wales to visit a pub or a restaurant during the lockdown period in England? Well, my message to them is that they must obey the law in England, and the law in England will not allow that to happen. And it will not allow that to happen for very good reasons, that the measures that have been put in place in England are designed to turn back the scale of challenge that coronavirus is now causing to our friends and our neighbours across the border. Those rules will have been put in place by the Prime Minister for very good reasons, and people in England need to follow them, just as I always ask people in Wales to follow the rules that we put in place for people here. Andy, thank you to Will Hayward at Wales Online. Thank you, First Minister. England is seeing more cases and deaths than their reasonable worst case scenario model predicted. Is Wales also above its projections? And does that mean there is likely to be more deaths than the 6,300 that were previously feared? Can you just talk us through the most up-to-date reasonable worst case scenario modelling for Wales, please? Yeah, well, thank you. So before we took the decision to institute a firebrick here in Wales, we were tracking a reasonable worst case scenario. We weren't exceeding it, but we were going along the pathway that the Swansea modelling suggested would be the worst case, and that's why we instituted the firebrick. Now we've asked Swansea to do the modelling again for us to take into account the impact of a firebrick period, and we'll have the results of that, I'm sure, shortly. But we weren't exceeding it, as they have reported in England, but we were tracking it, and that was a strong signal to us of the need to act and to act early here in Wales. Thank you. Can you also talk us through the plan for local lockdowns now? If there is a local outbreak, will you follow a similar model as before with the figure of 50 cases per 100,000 as the benchmark? And will the restrictions imposed be the same as before? And could I just ask for a confirmation? Can you confirm that people in Wales are now able to book holidays in Wales, such as in Bluestone, after the firebrick? Yes, on the final point, I can confirm that. People will be able to travel within Wales. They won't be confined to their local authority area, as was the case during the local lockdowns, and tourism will be able to reopen. So the answer is yes on that. In relation to how we will deal with local flare-ups beyond the 9th of November, well, first of all, let me just say we're bound to face those local flare-ups, and we will need to take local action. We will be discussing later this week, because it's not a decision we had to make for today, and there have been an awful lot of decisions we've had to get in place for today. We will be discussing later in the week with our colleagues in local government, with the local outbreak management teams, how those decisions should be allocated at the moment. The decisions essentially lie with Welsh Ministers on the advice of local IMTs. We want to see whether it might make better sense for there to be a greater level of local flexibility, autonomy and responsibility, so that those who are closest to those local outbreaks can institute for themselves more local measures. But that is an open question, and one that we will work on with those local partners as this week goes on. Well, thank you, Dr Othory, Adam Hale and P.A. On that, please, Nidog, you said this morning that you wouldn't consider extending Wales's current lockdown to end when England's will, because you shook a bargain with the Welsh public to end it on November 9. If the science tells you that a longer lockdown would fit the population, and put us in a better position to weather the storm, why does that not take priority over any political embarrassment that could be caused by performing a U-turn on the end date? Well, Adam, I want to be clear with people that decisions in Wales cannot and will not be driven by decisions that other people take in different circumstances. Last week I was being asked a lot of questions about why we had a firebreak at all when in England they were dealing with it by a tiered system and why hadn't we done that? At the end of the weekend the Prime Minister changes his mind and then now I'm asked why I don't follow the latest twist in the English story and simply we will not be driven by things that happen in that way. The advice we had from our chief medical officer and our scientists was that if we acted early and if we had a 17-day period which was short but sharp and we've really asked an extraordinary amount of people in Wales over these 17 days that the science told us that that would be what we needed to help us to turn back the tide of coronavirus in Wales. That's the decision that we took, it was based on the science and exactly the way that you've suggested and we will stick to that because we think that that is the best result for people here in Wales in the circumstances we face. Thank you and you've already mentioned a new generation of tests made me becoming available over here. What work has the government been doing completed or near completion during this firebreak period in order to improve the country's defences against the virus? There were calls obviously when they were before from opposition members about improving the test and trace system for example. So we've been using the two weeks as we said we would to strengthen a number of parts of the system in Wales. We've been working with all local health boards to make sure that they can bring forward if necessary their plans to open part of our extended capacity in the health service, the field hospitals and we have been recruiting hard to our TTP teams. We are establishing a new central team that we can deploy to strengthen the local teams when there are particular outbreaks in different parts of Wales and testing is part of all of this as well and as I say and I don't want to pretend that there are any magic bullets in any of this but one of the more promising developments is that we may have a different generation of tests at the moment as you know you've got to take yourself somewhere the test itself is going to be taken to a laboratory there's an inevitable period before the test comes back. There are new tests which we are piloting in some parts of Wales already and have been involved our clinicians have been involved in developing which as I say will be a different sort of test more like a pregnancy test that people will be familiar with where you administer it yourself and you get the result very quickly. Now if that is the case and if that sort of testing becomes available on a significant scale then that will alter the way in which we are able to plan pathways ahead for us in Wales while we go on living with the virus. I've given an indication this morning already of some of the priorities that we would have if such tests became available and working on all of that that also has been very much part of what we have been doing over these two weeks. Adam Dychefawr over to Dan Bevan at LBC. Thank you First Minister good afternoon from what I gather you're sort of saying two things here one that people in Wales can have most of their freedoms back but also that we can't leave Wales without a reasonable excuse so sort of two things on this the you said that the tourism industry can open up in Wales does that mean that people can't leave Wales through Cardiff airport which remains open and will people be fined if they leave Wales without a reasonable excuse? Dan international travel will not be allowed up until the beginning of December because international travel is not going to be allowed to people in England and we've decided it just doesn't make sense to leave that possibility open to people in Wales when only Cardiff airport would be available to them and leaving Cardiff airport open would be a magnet we know to draw people from other parts of the United Kingdom into Wales at a point where we don't want that to happen so that is something that has changed as a result of the Prime Minister's statement on Saturday and we've decided that that is the simplest and safest way to to prevent the risk of people traveling inside the United Kingdom in a way that wouldn't be sensible and you know they will be a penalty regime it's inevitable it's not our first resort you know I say this every time in Wales penalties are the last resort when we've run out of our ability to explain to inform to educate to persuade when people knowingly deliberately flout the rules that are there to protect us all it is inevitable that there have to be consequences thank you and first time around coming out of the march lockdown we had the stay local laws the five mile rule or guidance as you called it and I wonder why you haven't gone for that approach once again and also is that an admission that it didn't work to protect the smaller more rural communities oh well back in the earlier part of this year it certainly did work was a very important part of our ability to put those parts of Wales where tourism is such an important part of the local economy in a position where we were able to reopen that part of the economy in those parts of Wales it was a very important part of our defence now we've looked very carefully at the position in Wales we've looked very carefully at the advice we get from behavioural scientists that say the simpler the rules are the clearer they are the easier they are for people to follow there's only one part of Wales today that is below the 50 per 100,000 threshold everywhere else is above it and the rationale of protecting some low incidence areas from high incidence areas doesn't really apply in Wales at the moment I said earlier in my opening statement that we will review all of this in two weeks time if the impact of the lockdown of the firebreak period is that we see a reemergence of a pattern where there are high incidence and low incidence parts of Wales then we will have to think again about travel arrangements in Wales but as of today it doesn't protect many places at all to stop people from travelling freely in Wales and a simple national rule that says you can travel inside Wales please only do it if it's necessary please don't think that from the 9th of November the fact that you can travel is somehow an instruction to travel it's absolutely not but while we are in the position we are then it makes sense to allow people to do so we'll review it in two weeks time and see whether it is still the right answer for Wales Dan thank you very much over to Rupert Evelyn at ITN thank you first minister can I just confirm on your your ban on international travel to leave are people from other countries still allowed to visit Wales Rupert I'm afraid the line wasn't wasn't great and I missed quite a lot of the question I heard the the very end bit of it where people are able to travel into the United Kingdom then they will be able to travel into Wales but they will be faced with the same quarantine arrangements that they have been up until now and can I just ask is this the hardest the border has frankly ever been between Wales and England I think that may well be the case for several centuries at least you know when we introduced our arrangements which asked people not to travel into Wales from high incidence areas elsewhere we were pretty heavily criticised by some political parties for doing so now that it has been found necessary to do that in England I think that people can at least understand that we were never doing it in Wales just for the sake of the border what we were trying to do always was to stop travel from high incidence areas to low incidence areas wherever they may be and others are now finding it necessary to do the same thing thank you over to Rob Taylor at rexham.com the newly published Welsh Government survey of public views indicates that perhaps only 57% of people stuck to only leaving home for essential trips during the first week of firebreak with the focus now on personal responsibility why do you think the remaining people who didn't follow that rule will now listen well there's a variety of information about what happened to travel during the first week of the firebreak and actually there's quite good evidence of travel has reduced very significantly they will be people who will be travelling for reasonable reasons you know people who have to go to work can travel people who have to attend medical appointments can travel people who are going to school can travel to do so so it was never the case that travel would be eliminated in Wales and I think there is good evidence that most people in Wales have understood the message and are abiding by those firebreak restrictions what we have to do is to persuade everybody to do that that's why we put so much emphasis on Friday and today on saying to people that the rules by themselves will never be enough to get us to where we need to be the rules have to be accompanied by a determination by every one of us to do the right thing and to ask ourselves the question about whether or not our actions are actions that are consistent with protecting ourselves and one another and that is a very important message to get out alongside the fact that there will be this new national set of rules the other side of the 9th of November thank you and what happens in Manchester and Liverpool the world and even Chester appears to impact north east wales going off tack documents and previous comments from our Government with areas of greatest concern in england being in the north west of england and the prospect of a lockdown there in a more open society in Wales is there anything specific being put in place to protect north east oils well first of all I agree with what you said Rob obviously where there are areas adjacent to the border that does have an impact on Wales the virus doesn't respect the border what is being put in place is a set of legal obligations in england to prevent people from coming across the border unless they have a good reason for doing so our police forces but also police forces on the other side of the border will have to play their part in making sure that that is enforced but in england as in wales the real way to persuade people to do the right thing is not to rely on enforcement and the rules alone but to appeal to enlightened self-interest the reason we're asking people to do this is because it protects you it protects your family it protects your community if you're not prepared to play your part you don't simply put yourself at risk but you create risk for all those other people who in any other circumstances would be your top priority and that is a message that I know colleagues in england will be giving and we will be continuing to reinforce it wherever we have the chance here thanks rob to tom moody at the south Wales argas thank you first minister so you've spoken about how there might be how there will be a slight delay on the new rules coming in for the hospitality sector is will the health and fitness industry be impacted by that same sort of delay or are they going to be able to reopen as they were from monday 9th they will be the gyms and the other things that were closed on the 23rd of october they will be able to reopen on the same terms as they previously traded on the 9th of november hey brilliant and um yeah we've we've seen some of the comments that you've made about the the lockdown in england have sort of been lost in translation as it were in sort of the national press um are you doing anything extra um now to make sure the messaging is clear um two people in england so that they should not be travelling to Wales over the next month well we've been making an effort over recent weeks we've been trying to place articles in local newspapers i've done some interviews for local media along the border and so on to try to explain why we were asking people not to visit Wales if they were coming from a high incidence area and making it clear that it wasn't to do with the border it was to do with the difference between where the virus is circulating very fast and where it's been in it's been less rising less quickly now at least that will be reinforced by the messages that the government in the united kingdom in its english responsibilities will be conveying to people in england and that won't just be in relation to visiting Wales it'll be the same at the border with scotland as well so the efforts we have been making will now be reinforced by everything that people are being told within england itself and i'm sure that that will help to reinforce that message tom thank you to steve bagnell at the daily post thank you first minister um you've previously said we won't see what the effects of the fire break will be on hold in the spread of the virus until afterwards but what are the figures telling us about those areas of Wales including north Wales rexham flincia dimsham conway that entered tight restrictions weeks before has this had an effect on bringing the race down and if so by how much uh what it has had the effect of steve is arresting the speed at which those figures were rising so i'm afraid this has been the pattern across wales we haven't succeeded by those huge local efforts in reducing coronavirus in many places but what we have been able to do is to stop it rising as fast as it otherwise would have done that's why we have some confidence that the fire break period coming on top of that will be sufficient to bring the virus back under control so those efforts have been really important they've been really important in north west wales we've had falling figures there again today but right across north wales the efforts that people have made have made a real and positive difference we will be in a much more difficult position today if it wasn't for all those efforts and our fire break would have had to have been longer and more severe than it has needed to be if we hadn't been able to harness the commitment of local people in the way that we have been able to over recent weeks thank you first minister and with news more pupils have been told so self-isolate recently um can you indicate whether exams will go ahead next year in wales or is the wales government looking at other alternatives now uh well thank you steve so uh some people listening and watching will know that we received two reports uh last week one from qualifications wales which suggested one way of dealing with examinations this year and a separate interim report from the group chaired by louise casella the director of the open university in wales who we've asked to look back over this year's experience and to give us advice uh the education minister will now consider both of those reports she was very keen not to make an announcement not to make an announcement and school schools were back this week so we could discuss those reports with head teachers with teacher unions she will make a statement to the senate on tuesday of next week the 10th of november so that we give students their parents and schools as much time as we can to prepare for whatever system of examination or assessment or awarding of grades that we can put in place here in wales for next year uh to naethan shusmith of the speaker thank you first minister good afternoon can you clarify what is defined as an organised activity under the new restrictions i does this include sports local community yarns et cetera and how do the rules differ for what is classified as a non-organised activity well uh naethan the essential way that we define an organised activity is if there is a body responsible for taking charge of what the regulations require which is that all reasonable measures have been taken to limit the risk of coronavirus in that setting now in sports that's often a governing body in a community centre uh that can be the local management committee of that community centre but it is organised because there is an individual or an organisation who can be held to account for complying with the law and that's why we will allow uh during this winter in community centres groups of up to 15 people to meet for organised indoor activities we thought very hard about that i've agreed to it because during the four months from now until the end of febru we know it'll be harder for people to meet outdoors and we need to provide more indoor opportunities but they've got to be organised activities they've got to be held under the control of an individual or an organisation who takes all the steps that the law requires in wells to make sure that that activity is run or that setting is organised in a way that minimizes the risk organized activities that take place outside the rules will very likely be in breach of the rules uh in wells thank you for clarifying that um you mentioned how you described the lockdown in england as a surprise um how has communication been with down in street had you been told anything or was it through uh elites uh that you found out about the lockdown and has it hindered your ability in any way to finalize the restrictions perhaps as quick because you would like to well it was a surprise to us because the prime minister uh even in the second half of last week was describing a national lockdown of a sort that's been introduced as a national disaster so it was a surprise to find a sudden change uh of uh tack not that i am criticising anybody for making those difficult decisions in their own circumstances uh we found out originally as many others did by hearing newspaper reports uh of this uh since then we have had more contact directly with the uk government i took part in a meeting with the other first ministers chaired by michael gove on saturday officials met with uk government officials yesterday there's been a further meeting chaired by mr gove that i took part in and von gethin took part in this morning there's a suggestion that there'll be a further meeting between us before the end of this week now if that is true i welcome it because that will give us something that we have been calling for throughout the last six months a regular and reliable pattern of engagement in which we share information understand each other's contexts and lead to better decision making so i'm uh i am hopeful that we have finally arrived at a point where all of that will now happen thank you Nathan thank you and finally today to tom magna at carers world thank you first minister you referred earlier on to a two household bubble i believe in post firebreak circumstances it it goes to a question that our viewers have raised if you have an unpaid carer living with the person they care for forming a household bubble it can obviously be very lonely so the question goes can another person from a different household visit not for reasons of physical caring but for the purposes of helping the mental health of the carer and the person they care for i'm guessing the answer may be yes if it is are the limits on that possible extended mental health bubble if so what are they and for example what happens if the mental health support person lives in england well on your final point i think that during the period that england is in its four week lockdown there will be some additional constraints on the ability of people to travel into wales on your more general point tom right back at the beginning of the first lockdown period we amended our guidance in wales to make it clear that it was within the rules it was a reasonable excuse to leave your home to visit another person where it was their mental health and well-being that was at stake that it wasn't just a matter of doing shopping or looking after someone's physical welfare that people's mental well-being was a reasonable excuse for leaving home and making such a visit and we will want to continue to allow that to happen beyond the ninth of november i make the general point again every visit we make every contact we have brings risks with it and nobody should do that likely but where there is a genuine reason and people are making a visit because there is a mental welfare issue at stake that will be allowable under the rules of wales thank you very much for that clarification and now a wider issue and looking perhaps more to the future um our views have drawn our attention to a senate note stating that 96% of annual care is provided by unpaid unpaid carers in wales our views would like to know when it comes to a vaccine eventually being in that situation will unpaid carers be prioritized when it comes to that well thank you there's a very good question we have a higher percentage of people in wales who provide informal care than other parts of the united kingdom so that sector is enormously important to us we've been drawing up plans inside the Welsh government for how we would distribute vaccine when it becomes available and it will involve priority groups and i'll certainly make sure that in those discussions that the needs of informal and unpaid carers are properly taken into account in that planning so thank you very much for raising that on their behalf this afternoon thank you all very much indeed diolch yn fawr


Live from Barcelona, Spain, it's theCUBE, covering KubeCon CloudNativeCon Europe 2019. brought to you by Red Hat, the CloudNative Computing Foundation and ecosystem partners. Welcome back to theCUBE, two days live coverage here in Barcelona, Spain at KubeCon CloudNativeCon 2019. I'm Stu Miniman, my co-host is Corey Quinn and happy to welcome to the program, first time guest, Vijoy Pandey, who's the vice president and CTO of Cloud at Cisco. And, Vijoy, it's a relatively new job for you, something we're still measuring in months, so why don't we start there, give our audience a little bit of your background and what brought you to the Cisco Cloud team? Sure, so first of all, thank you Stu, thank you Corey. Glad to be here. Yes, I am measuring my tenure right now in months. It was days, now it's months, soon it'll be years and soon it'll be forgotten, but I did come from Google, I spent a whole bunch of time there in the networking space. I actually ran the data center footprint, I also ran the VAN footprint for a couple of years and then I ended up building the automation, modeling, telemetry, data analytics stack for all of their physical infrastructure for a while. Okay, so how much time do we have because I always put out there, I'm a networking guy by background and if you talk about just the Google network and how do we get our search results and our ads to us globally in a short period of time and you talk about undersea cables, I mean Google was the example. The first time I heard about SDN and what that was going to be, oh well let's look at what Google was doing and when Cloud rolled out, Google's network was really second to none. Now of course, you move over to Cisco which notes the thing or two about networking. Can you tell some of those, it just helped connect the dots for me. We've had this premise that the hyper and web scale, what they have done is what's bleeding into the enterprise. That's what Kubernetes is, what Google did at board and from a networking standpoint, some of the things that the top 20 hyperscale companies were doing, we're now starting to see into the enterprise. Does that premise hold water for you? Yeah, that's correct. But I think what you need to realize is that not everybody is a hyperscaler, not everybody is a Google, but there are concepts and there are mechanisms that Google has used and AWS and Facebook and the others have used that are very, very relevant to large enterprises, to large service providers and that is the opportunity. I mean if you asked me earlier why I came and joined Cisco and you're right, I mean Cisco is the big behemoth in the networking space and there is a little bit of a disconnect in how the hyperscalers have approached networking in the past couple of years or few years and how Cisco's customers and Cisco's go-to-market has been approaching their customers over the past couple of decades. So trying to bridge that gap is what's exciting and I think there are a lot of concepts that have been developed in the hyperscaler space that do apply. For example, like you said, SDN is a big one. It simplifies how you do networking. Automation is the other big one. So we see, I've seen in the eight months I've been here, most of our customers looking for an automation platform to build at the same agility and with the same zero-offs mentality that the Googles and the AWS have done. So bringing those concepts within Cisco and giving it to our customers is where the opportunity is. Yeah, if I go back in time, 15 years or so, and I want to start about a 50-person company, there's no way I'm going to be able to effectively do that without at least one network engineer on the staff or almost any reasonable company. Today, if something starts up that's cloud-native, a lot of that starts to instead be pushed onto the networks that you use to build at Google or folks doing the similar things at AWS. Do you see that as a longer-term trend where enterprises are going to start moving in that type of direction as well or do you see that enterprises are always going to have specific needs that are not going to be met by the hyper-scale public clouds? Yeah, I think it's probably the latter. I mean, what I see in the future is especially, the way I look at the market, it's data-driven in a different way. So wherever you have data, you have the need for compute, you have the need for the network. And it comes in a variety of ways. One is just around regulations. So if you have data that you need to protect, you need on-prem compute storage networking. If you need a lot of insight from your data, you need to do a lot of number crunching or data crunching, ML, AI, I mean, for all of those workloads, you need local compute, you need local networks. So depending on where the data is, you will see compute and networking follow. So in that sense, yes, there will be the need for cloud-based access for all of our enterprises, cloud-based applications, but the need for on-prem will never disappear. And that's why I think making the bet on multi-cloud, making the bet on hybrid is the critical way forward. So, VJoy, one of the things we see at this show, especially, is that intersection between what's happening in the enterprise and what's happening in the developer community. We've watched closely the DevNet group inside of Cisco and that rise of, it's not just in the DevNet group, but Cisco going through a lot of transformation. I heard one of the keynotes in this building a year ago is when you think of Cisco in like 2030, it shouldn't be Cisco the networking company, it's Cisco's a software company. And there's the platitudes out there about software is eating the world and like, but help us give it a little insight as to what that means. Networking, of course, is Cisco's DNA and how most of us today still think of Cisco, but what's that journey that Cisco's going through? Sure, and you touched upon a couple of points there, so let me just walk through a couple of them. First of all, the reference to DevNet, it's pretty evident that everything is moving towards the developer's mindset and the network is no different. So, talking about the automation bits that I mentioned earlier, even at Cisco, the products that we build around even physical boxes, which is the bread and butter for a large majority of our customers, we are trying to move that towards a more developer-friendly paradigm. And instead of going through SNMP or CLI, we are moving towards a very programmatic API, model-driven networks, streaming telemetry, and to do all of those things, you need a developer-centric mindset. So, whereas our products are enabling APIs to do those things, there is a need for a community to ingest that API set, and that's where DevNet comes in. So, just to be able to train the people who are operating the networks, who are building on top of our networks, you need a community that is familiar with programmability and development and the software engine principles that go with it. So, that's one aspect of the statement that you mentioned earlier, and that's one place where Cisco is going, just with their switches and routers. Another aspect is, in 2030, where do you see Cisco evolving towards? And like everybody else, we are also going through a transformation. We are becoming cloud-native internally. So, it's not just that our products are becoming cloud-native in their nature, it's also what we offer is becoming cloud-native. So, the products, the way they are constructed, the way the apps are being developed are becoming cloud-native. We want to be SaaS-enabled. So, the company is going through a transformation of enabling SaaS on a lot of our products. So, transforming Cisco to enable that business model is also something that you see happen over the course of the next few years. And so, we are internally going through how do we build these things out of microservices? How do we scale out? How do we share common code? How do we share common services? How do we stand up a platform just like the Googles and the AWS have done? And so, that's a big push inside of Cisco as well.  How does that inform how you meet your customers? I didn't catch the last part of it. And how does that inform how you meet your customers as you start to gain empathy for what they're going through too by going through it yourself? That's right. I mean, I think so, that's exactly right. So, if you look at what Cisco is trying to do, it's no different than our entire customer set. You can see a whole bunch of things happening, whether they are being, whether they are companies that are being acquired. So, let's say Duo is a great example that we just acquired in the security space. AppDynamics is a great example.  Then there are products that we have had internally that are going through a transformation themselves. Our IT department is going through our transformation. The way we are consuming our own products, talking about DevNet, we are actually consuming them in a very programmatic way. So, we are no different than all of our customers out there, most of our customers out there, if you skip the top four or five hyperscalers that we just talked about. So, how we approach this problem resonates really, really well with our customer set. And so, coming up with use cases and saying that this is how we've solved the problem, these are the products that we build and we consume ourselves. So, we dog food our own products. For example, the Kubernetes stack that we've had, CCP, we consume it internally. We run it as a SaaS product internally. We, actually there are a lot of other be used within Cisco that consume it as part of their own product offering. So, enabling that gives us a lot of credibility when we go and talk to our customers that this is how we've gone through the journey. And in fact, we want to talk a lot more about that journey in the coming few quarters because that'll give us the credibility in the marketplace as well. All right, so, VJoy, one of the hottest topics at this show, you know, it has been for a while, is security. And we know there is a, you know, tight connection between security and a lot of times with networking there. The keynote this morning, you talked a little bit about network service mesh, which is now a sandbox project under the CNCF. Explain a little bit about how that's, you know, helping to, you know, attack some of these key issues. Sure, I think the NSM is just a first step. So, the network service mesh is basically doing a couple of things. One is it is simplifying networking so that the consumption paradigm is similar to what you've seen on the developer L7 layer. So, if you think of Istio and how Istio is changing the game in terms of how you consume layer seven services, think of bringing that down to the layer two, layer three layer as well. So, the way a developer would discover services at the L7 layer is the same way we would want developers to discover networking endpoints or networking services or security capabilities. That's number one. So, the language in which you consume needs to be simplified, whereas it's whereby it becomes simple for a developer to consume. The second thing that I touched upon is we don't want developers to think about switches, routers, subnets, BGP, VXLAN, VLAN. And they don't. They don't, exactly. And so, how do you get hybrid and multi-cloud connectivity where you leave a Kubernetes pod? Within a pod it's very nice and well-constructed and you don't think about those concepts. The moment you leave the pod, all of those things come in. And IPs change, subnets change, routing comes into the picture, peering endpoints come into the picture. You don't want developers to think about it and they don't want to think about it. So, NSM tries to hide all of that below a shim layer and gives you a simple discovery mechanism from point A to point B, regardless of how far you're going. So, that's the other abstraction that we are bringing in. The third bit, going back to your security question. Today, if I look at how VNFs are constructed, these are basically cardboard boxes, like I said.  You could follow the same paradigm, wrap up everything, put it in a container and call it a container network function. We don't want that to happen. So, we want to end up in a world where you want specific targeted capabilities. So, if a certain application, all it needs is an IPsec tunnel and nothing else, you should be able to provide just that capability and just basic connectivity for that application. If another application needs a lot more than that, maybe it needs a WAF, maybe it needs something more beyond that, you should be able to provide those capabilities without bringing in other things. So, just dissecting the capabilities in the networking and security space and offering them as individual capabilities which are specific to the application is where we want to be. That's a world we want to enable.  Today, I think you can do the same sort of operational role without having much awareness of networks because very often that's handled for you. They're a lot more reliable these days in most cases too. So, you have people who are hitting senior or architect level roles that have never really touched networking at all. It's always been working behind the scenes until it doesn't, at which point there's no awareness there among those types of people. Those developers are viewing that as part of the plumbing. It always just works. You don't question whether the water is going to come out, we turn the tap on. Same issue with networking. Do you find that, I guess the lack of being first and foremost in people's mind, which incidentally is an assessment to your success, that that is going to start working against you in some ways as people stop thinking about networking as a primary thing they need to solve for? So, it's an interesting point and I think if you think about, again, my background where I came from, so at Google, we used to have this thing that since we control the application stack end to end, we could build the infrastructure the way the applications would want them to be built. So, for example, you would go to a YouTube or an ML application and say, what do you want the infrastructure to be? And in a utopian world, they would tell you, build me this, to your point, what they told us even within Google is, give me infinite capacity at zero latency, at zero cost and then go away, right? I mean, that's what developers want. They don't want to think about it, till it breaks. Yes. And so, number one, building something that will give you infinite capacity at zero latency, high availability, and as little cost as possible, I think there is a role for networking for a long, long, long time to come. Number one, because there are architectures and products that enable that. Number two, observability, figuring out how to bump up availability as we go on, getting into zero ops and automation, getting into AI and making sure that these things operate and run on their own. And there is very little burden on the network engineer or operator. These are all problems that a company like Cisco can bring or solve in this world. And so, you will see Cisco just move up the stack. So, it's not that these things will disappear, but yes, there will be parts of it that will be plumbing, but there will be parts of it where Cisco will move up the stack. And getting the observability, getting SLAs in the network figured out, I think there's where, those are the places where Cisco will add value. All right, so, Vijay, I'll ask you to close with how you opened your keynote and help explain network, please evolve. So, this, actually, yes, so, I think wrapping up in terms of everything that I've just said, a few things that networking needs to do is, A, move forward into the cloud native world where you are building things in the same way that applications are being built today. And so, the consumption model, the architecture of the application in terms of microservices, the way you would operate these networks in terms of building very specific SRE teams, those are the ways the network should be built as well. The other thing which is near and dear to my heart is they need to be built in a zero ops manner. You cannot have network engineers and operators muck around with the network anymore because they're becoming bigger, larger, and more complicated than ever before. So, we need to move towards a zero ops model and that's where I think the evolution of the network should be. Well, Bijoy, congratulations on the progress so far and thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, it was very nice to be here. All right, for Corey Quinn, I'm Stu Miniman. Back with more of our two days of wall-to-wall coverage here at KubeCon CloudNativeCon 2019, Barcelona, Spain. Thank you for watching theCUBE.