Ladies and gentlemen man, happy holidays. I'm back Give this thing a thumbs up man. Let's get a little groove going. I appreciate all the support all the nice comments Instagram YouTube son of Mike you guys have been really cool lately. So I do appreciate it And I want to talk about you know the truth about getting strong what it really takes to get strong And I've gone over in the past a million variations a million programming tips a million frequency and and and lifting technique tips on ways to dial in your form but the truth is Well one truth that no one wants to know or talk about probably my favorite tweet of all time If I have to to toot my own horn is that the truth is is talent does beat hard work And they may piss some of you guys off and you can go chatter in the comments below if that hurts your little fragile ego That you think you can outwork someone and end up being LeBron James, but that's just not the truth, you know epigenetics Talent itself What our bodies are capable of especially in a sport like powerlifting? Where it's just so dependent on tendons ligaments bones a body structure muscle potential Neuromuscular firing potential all these things play such a role that you can't like outskill it Now if we're talking about golf talking about ping-pong There's a genetic opponent and like a skill component and I'm not saying there's no skill in lifting obviously there is But on the scale of soccer basketball, etc. You know the pure genetics take over But the truth is that doesn't really matter because we don't know our potential until we dive in and the truth about getting strong Is there's one factor one factor alone and that's consistency Someone you know tagged me or reposted me and something saying man I admire Mike because he's he's an average dude, which I took offense to you know, I'm a freak athlete I'm not the freakiest. I'm not LeBron James. I'm a good athlete jokes aside. I'm above average athletes You know, I was grabbing rim hanging on a basketball rim in eighth grade, you know, it's 5-8 Hanging on the rims not normal. That's not average So I'm a pretty good athlete now I would say I'm an average just above average strength athlete, but the truth of lifting in His repost was basically saying like damn Mike's pulled 705 He's just lifted for a very long time and consistently consistency and that's what got him there And he's not wrong. I lifted very stupid for five years still pulled 600 plus I had to dial in my programming and my technique a little bit to get to that 700 But the only thing that's got me there is lifting deadlifting once or twice a week for Going now on I'm 33 Over 14 years 15 years. I've been bench pressing since eighth grade. I'm a squat bench and deadlifting Besides the one year off I took about what we talked about in the last video Since I was 18 19 so I just haven't stopped And do I do everything perfectly? No, do I do programming perfectly sleep perfectly diet? Not even close I'm the furthest thing from perfect I'm not what you should look like or look at if that's what you need for motivation, but I'm pretty realistic yet I'm pretty consistent And that's what it takes on YouTube. I've had recent conversations with people on TikTok twitch streaming Building a business the number one factor is I would rather have Seven out of ten days or even five out of ten days Let me rephrase that I Would rather have a five out of ten workout meaning middle of the road workout or middle of the word Effort middle of the road Day but do it every single day then have a ten out of ten workout on a Monday and not train for three weeks You're gonna be way better off having a decent workout a solid workout Just getting something done and that's the same with work business Effort and consistency will take you a long time and when I say effort I don't mean it's got to be balls to the wall every time because you will burn out physically and mentally That just popped in my head We're doing a Q&A on Instagram a lot of questions around that and in the shout out for my guys So I appreciate you guys truth about strength is genetics are gonna rule all whether you want to admit it or not And we got to get better. We got to get consistent and we got to get we got to get as Disciplined as we can We got to get better. We got to be consistent We got to be dedicated fam. So day after day. Let's get it done. I appreciate you man I'm excited. I got goals. Maybe we'll talk goals in an upcoming podcast a 50% fax new podcast out 3sp.co for your clothing So I'm out


Good afternoon, high-performance computing nerds, and welcome back to the Mile High City. We're here at Supercomputing 2023. My name is Savannah Peterson, joined by my co-host, John Furrier. We are talking AI, we are talking chipsets, we are talking data. Any of those conversations, your favorite? Or do you like how- Storage is my favorite, because I love talking about storage, okay? Storage is not storage. No! It's not boring at all. Storage is high. Storage is transported to the most important. Storage never dies. Since 13, it's been doing the cube. It's storage. Dave, a lot of that, I love storage. I love storage. Yeah. John likes to train our AI live on the show all the time. We love storage. We've got IBM storage here, speaking of coincidence.  Let's welcome David to the show. David, how are you doing? Have you, I imagine every one of your customers is here. Have you had a chance to walk the floor? Have you been trapped in meeting rooms? What's it been like for you? It's been great. And I've really seen the difference in the energy this year. You know, coming off of COVID and things like that, it's been tremendous. We have had more customer meetings, more customer visits. And it's kind of exciting because people are talking about data. Yeah. And that's what I'm, I don't like to always say storage, though that's fine for the, for the, you know. Storage is always learning. For the AI program that you're doing, but it's about data. It is about data. And that's really what it is. It is about data. And you actually, I thought this was interesting because I mean, we agree, we talk about data all the time. I'm sure the AI knows that. You said you were surprised by how many conversations you've had about data. Yes, yes. Tell me more about that. Why was that surprising to you? Well, it was surprising because they're doing more with their data and they're expecting more with their data. Yeah. With the whole avenue of GPUs and CPUs. Sure, now they said, great, we've got all this performance, but the whole idea to AI and bringing AI innovation is bringing more data, bringing it faster so that we can get the results like in your CUBE AI program. Yeah. I mean, I've said storage, feeding the AI, of course. I joke, but I'm not kidding. Storage has super important in the equation of our digital life, but now storage is everywhere. So it's not about storage conversation. It's about data needs to be stored somewhere. It needs to be transmitted from point A to point B. That's networking. And it's processed on a server. Okay, that has a GPU and a CPU. So servers, storage and networking, the whole eternity of hyperconvergence. And that's now going to be refactored as a system for AI systems. So these models create this new abstraction that'll be the interface to the user, but below it's just infrastructure and systems working. This is the top conversation. By the way, semiconductors, service storage, networking, glue layers, interconnects, sounds like a PC to me in the cloud. Like it's all those elements as a system. This is the new systems mindset. What's your reaction to that? Well, I think that's so true. And I think what I'm seeing is customers are looking for, this is a change in the conversation. They're not just looking for our technology. We can bring that. I've got some exciting news I want to share, but it's really about, yeah, but it's really about what they're using it for. That's the change and customers are wanting that. They say, tell us about your technology, but how can we leverage it? Because we're being asked to do more. That's what's amazing. So let's get into the news. We love news, break the news. What's going on? Let's share the news. The news is, we announced the fastest system in the industry for storage that we topped ourselves. We are already a leader. We already had the top number. We already are the fastest storage, but we now doubled it again. So we are- Wow, impressive. So it is. So we can now bring, yeah, 277 gigabytes per second of our storage, 13 million hours. I mean, I think about the system. I was in block storage for many years, right? And you talked about having 13 million IOPS in Iraq. We could put 130 million IOPS in Iraq now. I mean, faster than any system out there. It's a mountain. I feel my brain actually exploding as you're saying this in terms of the scale. And we're ramping so quickly right now. And I'm sure, are your customers, do you get a sense of FOMO from them? We do. We do. They're still wanting to know how to use it, but it's not, it's just not about the performance, right? We also announced that in a whole idea of the flash core module, we're the first to bring computational storage to file an object, right? We've had it for block for years. You've- Yeah, you guys are just flexing them in there. I love this. But now, but bringing that computational storage now with QLC and the whole avenue of the compression and the whole aspect there, that's been huge. So we're now able to bring the efficiency, right? And then our software then brings the connectivity, right, because customers, and we got the hybrid cloud story. We were here a couple months ago talking about that, about our hybrid cloud story and how we're really leveraging everything. Because when you're talking about AI, you can't just do it on a single system. No, it's going to be all over. And you can't just get data from a single source. You've got to tie it all together. And the HPC conversation, this world, it started actually in 1988 when I graduated from college, still going, but they've been grinding on this, how to get more performance out of the systems at large scale, precision engineering, molecule work, big science, big academic. Now you bring cloud and now the on-premise new model that's emerging, you've got large scale data opportunities with narrow precision and personalization, productivity enhancements. But this isn't like really lagging, it's real time. So you're talking about a new interface, new abstraction, middleware layer or shim layer. That's going to completely change the architecture underneath. What do you see for customers thinking about, how are they thinking about this? What are some of the conversations? What's the mindset? What's the platform engineering look like? What's the architect look like? How are people rethinking? Because it was under the hood, you can do a lot of magic under there. This is what HPCs do. That's it. And I think that's what's really it is, customers are rethinking their whole data architecture. They feel that it's a strategic now. It's not just something where, especially with all the data, it used to be secondary storage that you put on, you attach to, you do, or you attach some local storage to make sure it's fast. So put it over there and it'll help it so big. So we call it our global data platform, but it's a whole idea of, customers need to think through a strategy if they're going to go to AI. They need something different. So they need to be able to connect data sources from the cloud, from multiple areas. That's what they're doing. And also create that parallel performance. You can't have a single performance. So there's only a couple of us that can do that parallel performance at speed, and we're there. You guys always had great storage at IBM. Legacy goes way back. What's the future of edge? Because this is a big part of the conversation. Yeah, let's talk about edge for a second. You got the classic edge, industrial edge, whatever. Then you got words like the far edge. I've heard people call things hyper edge. Space is part of the equation now. Satellites, Tesla's announced, not Tesla, but Elon Musk's company is going to go public. What's the service that he's got there? Starlink? Starlink, whatever the analogy. And my brain's fried. So okay, you got Starlink, you got Starlink in space, satellites, you got telemetry, you have hyper edge cameras, industrial IoT. What's the edge? You're like feeding right into me. And feeding right into my story, this is great, because I think that's the hope. We're here for you, David. I know, I see that a lot of it. We are here for you. We're here to get out to storage. We're prompt engineers. They're all here for you too, our fabulous production team. I love it, yes, yeah. Well, and I think that's important, right? Because we've got the only technology that can really bring in data from the edge, right? Because so much data's being created, but it's sitting at the edge. How do you get it from the edge to where all this compute power is? You can't keep bringing, though we can off-shload and get some GPU power, some CPU power on the edge, but really we need to bring it into the core or bring it into the cloud or leverage the cloud and tying that all together is the key, right? So, and that's what we do. And it's that universal experience across tools and teams that's going to make them be able to accelerate with the velocity that they all want to right now. And I love that you're one of those players that is connecting the dots so that people can just do. Curious, David, since you do get to see so many different types of applications and you've had oodles of customer conversations here on the floor, taking off your professional IBM storage hat for a second, what applications, since I do think we're just starting to see some of these realize what applications in the AI space are getting in the most excited? It's more bringing analytics to the AI space and obviously the generative AI, right? I mean, we are tying in and all our storage, especially our storage scale system and we tie into that number of areas there but with the Watson X, right? I mean, that's really what we're seeing. We're seeing that driving to the AI models with the analytics AI, the big data AI, bringing that together, tying that together into the lake house and that's what Watson X does and that's what we're about. I love that. All right, final question for you. You are so excited and enthusiastic. I can feel your energy. You are just like the data spokesperson. I feel like data is paying you to be this pumped up about it. We've had a great conversation here today. What do you hope you're able to say when we have you on the show at Next Supercomputing that you can't currently say today? Yeah, that we have been successful at helping customers bring AI, bring the AI innovation forward to help their business grow. That's it. If I can help promote and create that strategic layer because that's what we want to be about, that's what we're trying to tell people. They need to rethink their whole data platform and so next year if you can say wow, even more customers and they're really seeing that change and seeing AI push forward because that's what we're all about. Yeah, and the data is critical. Having all that data available makes it all work. Driving innovation through the data. If data was a, data spokesperson, you're a really good, data is a client of us. Data is paying him, data, data, data. Global data platform. I'm going to get in your AI program so I can do that. So, two quotes in the queue that I love. Compute should be like oxygen free. Yes. And data should be free like oxygen. I love it. That sounds great. More data, the better. The more data, the better.  Data matters and customers need to rethink. They can't keep doing it the way they're doing it. That's what I find out so much. Every customer is saying, I'm running under limitations. I can't do it the way I'm doing it right now. They need a change. Vanessa, what we're about? I love that. Well, we're happy to hear it and thank you for bringing that story to us. It's great to be here. Thank you so much. I look forward to hopefully getting to have some of those customer conversations maybe even here on the stage is super computing next year. We'll be back. We're really developing more with the cloud team and with our whole thing and really tying together that hybrid cloud with Google and you'll be hearing actually some of that. Some of the things that we're doing there. Stories about compute now, GPUs, CPUs, all the systems around it, networking. It's a whole other level. Yeah, it really is. David, thank you so much for sharing your enthusiasm. Thank you so much for letting me share. And your insights, John, fantastic job. We won't let Eli know about the Starlink moment. And thank all of you for tuning in live to our coverage in Denver, Colorado here at Supercomputing 2023. My name's Savannah Peterson and you're watching theCUBE, the leading source for emerging tech news.


Live from Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE. Covering Mobile World Congress 2017, brought to you by Intel. Hello everyone, welcome to theCUBE here, live in Palo Alto Studios for special two days of coverage of Mobile World Congress 2017. The hashtag is MWC17. Get on Twitter, tweet us at theCUBE. We'll be answering questions. I'm John Furrier with Peter Barrises, next two days, breaking down Mobile World Congress.  We'll be covering all the action here in Palo Alto, 8 a.m. through the whole day. As the day winds down in Barcelona, we'll be covering all the top news, all the analysis here on theCUBE. So stay with us multiple days. Go to thecube365.net slash MWC17. If you're watching this, that's where the live broadcast will be, also will be on Twitter. Peter, good to see you. Two days getting geared up. Mobile World Congress is changing as a show from phone to IoT, AI, autonomous vehicles. Certainly a lot of action to talk about Saturday and Sunday. The pre-show releases is all phones all the time. They kind of get in the phone stuff out of the way earlier and now they're in the throes of the show and it should be exciting. Well, yeah, because the use cases that the industry's following right now require or presume that significant amounts of processing can happen virtually anywhere. The Internet of Things and People, which kind of brings together the idea of what can you do in your phone if you're a human being and what can you do within a device or a machine somewhere with a bunch of sensors, demands that we have very high speed, secure, low latency networks and that's what 5G is promising. Well, we're super excited for the folks watching. We are now going to be having our new studio here in Palo Alto. We just moved in in January, 4,500 square feet where now we can cover events. We don't have to be there with theCUBE. We will not be there. There's not enough room in Barcelona and it's a long flight, but we do have people on the ground and we'll be covering it here in the studio and we'll be calling folks on the ground this morning and tomorrow morning to get the lay of the land that'll be coming back from their dinners from their parties and find out what the vibe is. Certainly we have all the action at cube365.net slash mwc17. So check it out there. And again, the top news again, this is all sponsored by Intel. Want to give a shout out to Intel. This would not be possible without Intel sponsorship. They're certainly on the ground as well as support from SAP Cloud with their news that they're being renamed from HANA Cloud. So I want to give a shout out and thank Intel and thank SAP. Check them out. They've got a huge transformational demos. Intel really leading the charge out there. So I want to make sure that we give a thanks to Intel. Peter, the big story I want to get your thoughts on is just jump right in. Saturday and Sunday, you saw a combination of tones setting up leading into the weekend and through the weekend. One was 5G. 5G is the key enabler for wireless, bringing in gigabits of speed to the phone. Are the apps ready? That's the question we're going to find out and we're going to dig into. Is 5G ready for prime time? And certainly all the glam and sizzle was the new phones. LG had a good announcement. Samsung had a big announcement, although they're not going to be at the show. But surprisingly, Nokia and BlackBerry, two old guard phone guys kind of rebooting. BlackBerry trying to put out their keynote product and also with Nokia, they rolled out the three, the six, three, five and six products for new phones to try to get into the Apple game. And now the 3310, which is the old school phone. So you saw the phones. And then the other player that announced the phone and watch was Huawei. And they're also in the infrastructure game. So 5G wireless connectivity and phones. And then in the middle, we have yet to hear some of the things. So as you look at the market and your research that you're covering, digital business, the business value of technology, what's your take on this? Well, John, the industry for the past, probably 15, 20 years has been driven by what you do in the consumer markets. That's where you get the volumes that drive down or generate economies that drive down costs that make new volumes possible. And so 5G is going to be the Mobile World Congress is a representation of that symbiotic relationship between the consumer and the enterprise world. So that on the one hand, you have the consumer markets with the phones driving a lot of the volumes that are going to dictate the rate at which a lot of this stuff happens. On the other hand, you have enterprises which are aggressively considering those new use cases about IoT and as we say, IoT and P and other considerations that are in many respects really where some of those first adoptions are going to be. So it's an interesting dance between consumer and enterprise now where one fuels the growth in the other even if the actual applications are not linked. By that, I mean, we do say IoT and P, Internet of Things and People, which presumes that there's going to be a lot of sensors on your phone. There's going to be a lot of sensors on your body that are tied to your phone, et cetera. But that's not necessarily the thing that's going to dictate the new application architectures that happen within the enterprise around some of these other things. That's going to be driven by what we call the edge. I love this IoT and P, P for people, but things are people, so Internet of Things is the big trend. And for the mainstream people, IoT is kind of the nuance, it's kind of an industry discussion. But AI seems to encapsulate that. People see the autonomous vehicles, they see things like smart cities that kind of gives folks a touch point or a mental model for some of the real meat on the bone that the real change that's happening. Talk about the IoT piece in particular because when you talk about the people aspect of it, the edge of the network used to be an IT or technology concept, a device at the edge of the network. You talk to it, data gets sent to it, but now you got watches, you have more of an Apple-esque-like environment mentioned to the consumer. But there's still a lot of stuff in between, under the hood around IoT that's going to come out. It's called network transformation and industry parlance. Where's the action there? What's your take on that? You guys do a lot of research on this. Well, the action is that data has real costs and data is a real thing. Just very quickly, on the distinction between IoT and IoT and P, the only reason why we draw that distinction, and this is important to think about what happens in that middle, is that building things for people and building things for machines is two very, very different set of objectives. So the whole notion of operational technology and SCADA, which has driven what's been happening a lot in IoT over the last 20 years, there's a legacy that we have to accommodate, has been very focused on building for machines. The building for people things is going to be different and that's what the middle is going to have to accommodate. That middle is going to have to accommodate both the industrial implications or the industrial use cases, as well as the more consumer or employee or human use cases. And that's a non-trivial challenge because both of those can be very, very different. One, you're focused a little bit more on brutal efficiency, the other one more on experience and usability. I don't know the last time that anybody really worried about the experience that a machine had, the machine experience of an application, but we have to worry about that all the time with people. So when we think about the edge, John, there's a number of things we've got to worry about. We have to worry about physical realities that takes time to move something from point A to point B, even information, the speed of light is reality and that pushes things out more to the edge. You have to worry about bandwidth. One of the things that's interesting about IoT or about 5G as it relates to IoT is while we may get higher bandwidth speeds, for the most part it's 5G is going to provide a greater density of devices and things, that's where the bandwidth is probably going to go. And so the idea is we can put a lot more sensors onto a machine or into a phone or into some use case and drive a lot more sources of data that then have to get processed somewhere and increasingly that's going to be processed at the edge. So Peter, I want to get your thoughts on one of the things for the folks watching is I spent a lot of time this week with you talking about this show and looking at the outcome of what we wanted to do and understand the analysis of what is happening at Mobile World Congress. Yes, it's a device show, it's always been about the phones, 4G and there's been this inch by inch move the ball first in 10 move the chains to use a football analogy. But now it seems to be a whole new shift. You go back 10 years, iPhone was announced in 2007. We seem to be in a moment where we need a step up function to move the industry. So I want to get your thoughts for the folks that you're talking to, IT folks or even CXOs or architects on the service provider side. There's a collision between IT, traditional business and service providers who have been under the gun, the telcos who have been trying to figure out a business model for competing against over the top and moving from the phone business model to a digital business model. So your business value of technology work that Wikibon has been doing is very relevant. I want to get your thoughts on what does it take? Is the market ready for this business value of technology because 5G gives that step up function? Are the apps ready for prime time? Are the people who are putting solutions in place for the consumers, whether it's for business or consumers themselves, service providers, telcos or businesses with IT in the enterprise. Is the market ready? Is this a paradigm shift? What's your thoughts and how do you tease that out for the folks that are trying to implement this stuff? Well, is it a paradigm shift? Yeah, as the words should be properly used, but the paradigm shift is, there's a lot of things going to that. So what we like to say, General, we've talked to large users about what's happening. We like to say that the demarcation point we are in the middle of right now, now is a period of maximum turbulence. And before this, it was I had known processes, accounting, HR, even supply chain, somewhat falls into that category, but the technology was unknown. So do I use a mainframe? Do I use a mini computer? What kind of network do I use? What software based do I use? What stack do I use? All of these were questions that it took 50 years for us to pretty well work out. And we've got a pretty good idea of what that technology set's going to look like right now. There's always things at the margin. So we know it's going to be cloud. We know it's going to be very fast networks like 5G. We know there's going to be a range of different devices that we're using. But the real question is, before it was known process, unknown technology. Now it's unknown technology, or unknown process and known technology, because we do know what that base is going to look like, but those stacks are broadly going to look like. But the question is, how are we going to apply this? What does it mean to follow a consumer? What does it mean from a privacy standpoint to collect individuals' information? What does it mean to process something in a location and not be able to move data or the consequences of that processing somewhere else? These are huge questions that the industry's going to have to address. So when we think about the adoption of some of this stuff, it's going to be a real combination of what can the technology do, but also what can we do from a physical, legal, economic, and other standpoint? And this is not something that the computing industry has spent a lot of time worrying about. Computing has always focused not on what should we do, but what can we do? And the question of what should we do with this stuff is going to become increasingly important. And the turbulence point is even compounded by the fact that the devices themselves and the networks are becoming more powerful. Look at what the cloud is doing with compute. If you look at some of the devices, even just the chip wars between Intel and say Qualcomm, for instance, Intel had a big announcement about their new radio chips. Qualcomm has a Snapdragon. We know Qualcomm is in the Apple iPhone. Now Intel has an opportunity to get that kind of business. It's got Huawei trying to- I think they're both in the Apple iPhone right now. But I think your point is- But Huawei is trying to beat on Apple. You look at their announcements, they're going very Apple-like and they have network gear. So we know them from the infrastructure standpoint, but everyone wants to be Apple, seems to be the theme. But again, the devices also have power. So you have process change, new value chains are developing and the device will be more popular. So again, this is a big turbulent time and I want to get your thoughts on the four areas that are popping out in the overall Congress. One, autonomous vehicles. Two, entertainment and media. Smart cities and smart homes. Seems to be the four areas that have this notion of combining the technologies and the power that are going to generate these new expectations by consumers and users and create new value opportunities for businesses and telcos around the world. Your thoughts. Those are four great use cases, John. But they all come back to a single notion. And the single notion, this is something that, as you know, we've been focused on at Wikibon for quite some time. What is digital business? Digital business is the application of data to differentially sustain and create customers. So what you just described, those four use cases, are all how are we going to digitize, whether it be the city, the home, the car, or increasingly entertainment? And what will that mean from a business model, from a consumer standpoint, from a loyalty standpoint, et cetera, as well as a privacy and legal obligation standpoint? So, but all of them have different characteristics, right? So the car is gonna have an enormous impact because it is a self-contained unit that either does or does not work. It's pretty binary. Either you do have an autonomous car that works, or you don't. You don't wanna see your, yes, it works in a ditch somewhere. Entertainment's a little bit more subtle because entertainment is already so much digital content out there, and there's only gonna be more, but what does that mean? Virtual reality, augmented reality. When we start talking about- Which is, by the way, a big theme of the Samsung announcements, all this is all teasing out the VR, virtual reality, and augmented reality. Absolutely, and that's gonna have, look, this is, because it's not just about getting data in, you also have to enact the results of the AI in the analysis. We call that systems of enactment. You have to then have technologies that allow you to, like a transducer, move from the digital world back into the analog world where human beings actually spend our time. We don't have digital transducers. Well, that's a great point. The virtual reality use case that Samsung pointed out, and this is the low-hanging fruit, is in hospitals. Doctors can look at VR and say, hey, I wanna have that. We've heard football players like Tom Brady who uses VR to look at defenses and offenses and to get a scheming kind of thing. And there's no question we're gonna see VR and AR augmented reality in entertainment as well. But a lot of the more interesting use cases, at least from my perspective, are gonna be how does that apply in the world of business? When we think about connected cities, now we're starting to talk about the relationship between all three. What does it mean, where is the edge in an autonomous car? Is it in a car, or is it in some metropolitan area? Or some cell-like technology? And the connected city, in part, is gonna be about how does a city provide a set of services to its citizenry so that the citizen can do more autonomous things while still under control? It changes the relationship between the person, consumer, and the analog metaphor. So for instance, whether it's a car or the city, a town or city has to provide services to residents. In an analog world, that's garbage, that's street cleaning, et cetera, having good roads. Now this could be passed for autonomous vehicles, and autonomous vehicles is interesting. I just shared a post on the 365, cube365.net slash MWC17, where Autoblog ran a post that said, Silicon Valley is failing in the car business, but they looked at it too narrowly. They looked at it from the car manufacturing standpoint, not from the digital services that is impacting transportation. This is the new normal. Look, you and I talked about this in the cube a year ago.  And it's become pretty clear that the car is going to be a computer. And anybody who argues that Silicon Valley has lost that has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Let's be honest. You're going to put more processing in a car. Love Detroit, love what's going on in Japan, love elsewhere in the world, but the computers and the chips are going to come from the Silicon Valley company. Yeah, and I would agree with that. And software. Well, again, transportation doesn't change, but the device does. So final thought I want to get before we end the segment is, as we say in the cube, and as Dave Vellante used to say, to squint through the noise or all the action at Mobile World Congress, how do you advise folks, and how do you looking through all this action, how would you advise tours out there? People who are trying to make sense of this. What should they be squinting through? What should they be looking for for reading the tea leaves of Mobile World Congress? I'd say the first and most important thing is there's so much turbulence that IT professionals have built their careers on trying to have the sober, be the ones who had the sober outlook on what technology could do. When we look at the amazing things that you can do with technology, it almost looks like magic, but it's not. These are still computers that fail if you give them the wrong instructions and that's because you build the wrong software, et cetera. And I think the real important thing that we're telling our clients is, focus on the sober reality of what it means to create value out of all this technology. You have to say, what's the business want to do? What's the business use case? How am I going to architect it? How am I going to build it? What's the physical realities? What's the legal realities, et cetera? So it's tried to get a little bit more sober and pragmatic about this stuff. Even as we get wowed by what all this technology can do and ultimately will mean. And the sober reality comes down to putting the value equation together, synthesizing what's ready, what's prime time. And again, it's an app world right now. I think the show is interestingly turning into an app show for business IT enterprise and telco service providers. So we're going to bring all the action. We've got some great guests. We've got entrepreneurs with the Roof Cohen who was a founder of Virtustream. We've got SAP coming on. We've got a call in to Lynn Komp who's at Intel. She's going to be on the phone with us from the commentary and giving us some commentary on what's going on at Mobile World Congress. From under the hood, in the network, all the action, we have more analysis with Peter. We have the global vice president of the cloud platform at SAP coming in. Tom Joyce, the technology executive. Willie Lu is the chairman of the 6G talking about the impact of the wireless. That's transformation in Sargalai who's former HPE executive who built out their NFV function for the communications group commentating on what's real and what's not. Stay tuned for more CUBE coverage for two days for Mobile World Congress here in Palo Alto bringing you all the action and analysis. We'll be right back with more after this short break.


Thanks everybody for joining us for this last session of the Resilient Vermont Conference for 2022. It's been a really great day. I hope everybody has got some fantastic things to take away with them from today's conference and I know that it just makes me that much more happy to live in Vermont and to know that there are just great people in a great community. So my name is Karen Hinkel. I'm the Associate Provost for Research. I oversee the Office of Academic Research which houses the research centers including the Center for Global Residence and Security, which is putting on the conference today. I'm really pleased first to introduce one of our very best Norwich students who's going to introduce our speaker for the workshop. So this is Alyssa Brink. She is a senior at Norwich University. She's an honor student and she's majoring in architectural studies. She's minoring in construction management and she has been awarded a Norwich Summer Undergraduate Research Fellowship this summer in which she's going to study and analyze urban agriculture in Detroit via vertical farming and rooftop gardens. So Alyssa, take it away. I am very honored to be here and to introduce you to Kara Robichek, who unfortunately can't be here with us as a person today, but she can be here and present to us all. So Kara is Deputy Director and Network Manager for EAN working with our network members and partners to expand our collective impact on clean energy action and emission reductions in Vermont. She came to EAN from Vermont Energy Education Program where she was the Executive Director from 2014 to 2021. Prior to her work at the EEP, she spent eight years PG Forces such as Environmental Communication, Environmental Economics, current environmental issues and Children Health and Environment for the Community College of Vermont, Johnson State University and University of Vermont. She has served on the board of Planting Hope as an elective parks commissioner for the City of Montpelier and as a member of the Montpelier Energy Advisory Committee. She has a bachelor's in Environmental Studies from Dartmouth College in the Masters in Renewable Natural Resources and Development from the University of East Angola. She lives in Montpelier with her husband and her two children and she enjoyed playing on or in the water and walking across country, skiing in the woods and listening to her children playing. Thank you for that introduction. I am so sorry not to be there with you. I am getting over COVID, which has presented as cold symptoms to me so I'm feeling lucky but not lucky not to be there. I would love it if you wouldn't mind going around really quickly and just letting me know your name and where in Vermont you are from, assuming you're from Vermont. Would you mind doing that really quickly before I talk at you? Sure. I'm Ta'a Kukarni. I'm right here from Vermont. I teach at Norwich and I'm from Montpelier. Karen Heiko and Professor at North University and I live in Middlesex. G. Cross and I'm on the slideboard in Bethel. Caroline McKelvie. I work for the University of Vermont at the Vermont Lake Champlain Sea Grant and I live in the Bolton area. I have a bus stop, break, and I just live across the street in Williamstown. I'm Kevin Geiger. I work for the two Riverside Quick Region Commission and I live in Palmer. I'm Lisa Cole. I work for Vermont Emergency Management as a State Hazard Mitigation Planner and I live here in Rockfield. I'm Carl Aitner. I'm on the slideboard in East Montpelier. Thank you all for doing that. So my plan for today and I'm hoping it'll work just as well digitally as it would be if I were in the room is to give you maybe 10 minutes of context. And then my hope is that we can have some conversation because this is supposed to be a workshop, not me just presenting at you. So the topic of conversation is building Vermont's climate workforce. And as was part of my introduction, I work for Energy Action Network, which is a pretty broad network of about 200 for-profits, nonprofits, educational institutions, and lots of folks who work for the state who are all working together to achieve Vermont's climate and energy commitments in ways that create a more just, thriving and sustainable future for Vermonters. And one of the things that we do through that work, there's a couple of big roles we hold in the state. One is that we bring together a lot of data and analysis, and we share that through a report that goes out each year that you may have seen. But the second thing that we do is that we convene this network of people to work together towards solutions. And each year in September or October, we have a pitch process, which is a competitive process to bring together new ideas and bring together a network action team to work on something that is one of the solutions that our state can employ for meeting our energy and climate commitments. So we have seven of those that are pretty active right now. Four of them started in 2020. Another three got added in 2021. And we're starting the process of developing some new ones for 2022. Those are all listed up on the screen. They vary from weatherization at scale, which has been trying to push for an additional 90,000 homes to be weatherized by 2030, mainly of low and moderate income folks through to the clean heat standard, which was a policy idea that was developed by an action team over the course of about a year and a half. You may have heard about it. It did go through the legislature this year. It was vetoed by the governor and veto override narrowly did not go through by one vote. There are some other network action teams. The future of world transit has been looking at trying to combine public and school transit using electric buses and trying that's a long slow process as you might imagine. But we're working with some communities on exploring that as a concept. There's a there's a number of others here. But the one that I want to talk with you about today is the team that's been working on climate workforce. So that was a team that started gathering together in November of 2021. We know that our climate workforce is a really important thing. There's a lot of a lot of benefits that come from growing our climate workforce that can be excellent careers. It's investing in the local economy and it's reducing emissions. But it's also a real challenge. So we had Matt Barowitz from the Department of Labor come and do a presentation at one of our coalition meetings on climate workforce. And he showed this slide. This was in January. I'm sure he has new data since then. But you can see what we're up against in that we were already had a declining labor force before COVID hit. And then there was a precipitous decline. You all know this. I'm not telling you anything new, but it really does show up on this graph that we lost a lot of workers and a lot of those were early retirements that are probably not going to come into the workforce. And there, as you also know, are other issues that are holding some people from coming back into the workforce, including issues with childcare, housing, etc. So at the same time that we have that happening, we have had a new climate action plan be adopted. I'm sure you all heard about that this morning at the plenary session. But the new climate action plan includes 26 pathways, 64 strategies and over 200 actions that they're recommending the state needs to make if we're going to meet our climate requirements from the Global Warming Solutions Act. So the image that is showing right now is just one of 15 or actually just the top of 15 pages of things that we should probably think about doing in order to reach our goals. And along the way, this is also something that I think Jared Duvall, my colleague, shared this morning. There's, you know, you can dive into individual actions that we are going to need to take. And this graphic shows the highest impact strategies that we might want to take. I don't know how much Jared described this morning, but the purple lines on each of these graphs are what we're likely to get through business as usual, the policies we already have in place. Whereas the increasing bar graphs are what we would actually need to do to reach our climate goals through the climate action plan. So for example, you can see the ramp up of electric vehicles. While we're expecting that those will ramp up fairly rapidly, we're going to need to see a lot more than is even the business as usual. But even with business as usual, we're going to see a big increase. And that means jobs, that means jobs, installing electric chargers, that means people learning to service electric vehicles instead of diesel and gasoline vehicles. Air source heat pumps similar, we need a lot of people who know how to install those. Whetherization, again, whether we're looking at business as usual, or what we actually need to do to reach our climate action plan, we're going to see a big ramp up and we need a lot more workers in that field. Continue on. These are these are the additional top measures for getting us to our climate action goals. So whether we look at business as usual, or whether we actually look at our goals, we need more people in the field working in these jobs. I'm going to take a quick pause and ask if there's any questions since I can't see you closely. Should I keep going? Great. So we've had a really broad coalition of people talking about how do we address the climate, climate workforce needs. And in those conversations, it's been a broad conversation about climate workforce. And there's been a more specific conversation around weatherization workforce. Because weatherization is a really good thing to do first. You know, you can't you can't put in some of the the new, you know, like heat pumps as effectively until you've weatherized the building. So it's one of those, you know, first things that we want to be working on. So we've had a lot of conversations about what are the things you need to have in place in order to build the climate workforce that we need. And one of those needs is consistent funding. So we're in this beautiful moment in terms of money in that there actually is money to do some of this work, which is somewhat unusual. The the American Rescue Plan Act funds give us funding for a lot of a lot of work to be done between now and 2026. But we know that we need that funding to stay consistent, because one of the issues that have has happened in the past is that there have been sometimes slugs of money that come in. But their short term, it doesn't give a company enough time to build up its workforce and then maintain them and and be able to maintain good quality jobs. And so it's it's hard to get the work done because you don't have that that ramp up and that continuation of funding. So that's one of the things we need in order to provide good and fair wages and benefits and job security, which are all needed to get people into the into these jobs. Another thing that we really need is wraparound services. And this is where the conversation gets so big and broad that it can be it can say, Okay, we need to do everything all at once. But it is true that we need to make sure that we have housing for workers who may not be making as much money. We need transportation for people to get to their jobs. We desperately need childcare if we're going to allow our entire population to be able to be in the workforce. Some people need health or mental health care in order to be able to to stay in the workforce. And we have a lot of new Americans coming in who have great skills and work ethic, but may not have the language skills yet. So there needs to be some translation services to be able to maximize our workforce as well. And then there's there's also we've had a lot of the training providers involved in the our conversations, which has been great. And we have a lot of training in the state. There's the the college is obviously the career Tech Ed centers that students can be in from high school. And then there's a lot of nonprofits working in the field like resource is doing great work from our works for women from my adult adult basic education, the YCC and Audubon. And there's a lot of organizations that are using a sort of serve earn and learn model where they actually pay people to go through the trainings. And that can be really helpful for anyone. It can be very hard to step out of your life in order to get trained to do something else. And a lot of a lot of employers are training their their folks on the job as well. People also need to be able to see what the clear career pathway is. So there's this really cool tool I was just going to show you. I'm going to go out of this the PowerPoint and show you this live. So this is a neat tool that I would have said that green buildings career map is what it's called. And they have this for sort of green buildings. They have it for renewable energy as well. But what someone can do is they can say, okay, I'm interested in learning about, you know, insulation, your air sealing technician. That sounds like something I might be interested in going into. So if I go in as an entry level, where does that take me? And what other options could I have going onward?  And that could be the next stage of my career. And then what might I do? There's these other options. So this is just one of many, but this sort of a visualization helps people to understand that when they're stepping into a job, it has a future and they can think about where they might want to keep going. So those sorts of tools are really helpful as well. So that is the conversation that I've been having with lots of people that I wanted to bring to you. And I would love to know if you all have any questions or comments. And then where I'm hoping that we'll go with this is, I think we have some post-it notes and some markers in the room. And I wanted to share a few questions I have for you and have you take a minute or two, a few minutes, to write out some thoughts. And then we'll have a conversation about what you know about what's happening in your community, what some of the opportunities are, where you are, share some ideas. That's where I was hoping we would go with this. But are there any questions or comments on what I've shared so far? Questions, comments? A cool tool. At Lake Chambers Secret in particular, our funding is through NOAA to a certain degree and workforce development is high on that list, especially with funding that's coming through as well. So I'm intrigued to look a little bit more at that one. I think it's a little bit outside of our realm of like construction engineering type thing. So I'd like to dive in more to that website. Very cool. I think that's it for questions, great. Okay, I'm going to throw my questions to you up here. And I'm hoping that you all can just take a moment to think about, okay, what's happening in your community that that could help develop a climate workforce? So what things do you already know about? What are the needs in your community for further building a climate workforce and who should be involved in finding the solutions? And then I'd like to have a conversation about that. And when I say community, there's so many different ways you could slice and dice that that might be your work community. It might be the physical community where you live.  And if it, if we have some, do we have some post-it notes and some markers that we could pass out to folks? Give people a couple minutes. And what I was thinking is if you can write ideas, write one for post-it note that you have for these three questions and then we'll go through and we'll talk about them afterwards. So I am having a little trouble hearing you all. So if I'm, I guess if you can speak up, that would be great. And if I can't hear you, I'll let you know. Okay, so I'm getting a call off. So Kara is able to put our thoughts up on a working document. So yeah, that's my plan is to use post-it notes to keep track of some of these. But I welcome any, you know, conversation. And I will say that this is actually really useful to me too. I'm hoping to help you share ideas or ask you to share ideas with one another. And we're still in the gathering of ideas space as well, both in terms of what's happening and in terms of where, you know, things might go for the next legislative session where there might need to be more funding, where there might be great things that we should be looking at. So I'm grateful for anything that you have to share today. So the first question I asked is what's happening in your community that can help develop the climate workforce? Where do we start there? I'm wondering if folks have anything to share. Hi. Okay, can you hear me, Kara? I can. Okay, great. Why is this a community issue at all? Why is it a community issue? Why is it a community issue at all? Towns have a lot on their plates. The state is trying to reach a goal. Why doesn't the state, Weatherization Mobile just drive around the street ringing their bell, giving that ice cream and say, we'll come and put in your water here while we're at it. You know, the state is doing that for the lower income folks. The Weatherization Assistance program provides free weatherization and recently they have gotten funding that allows them to also, at the same time, when appropriate, replace heating plants and water heaters for heat pump hot water heaters and to do additional work that allows all that to happen, because sometimes you can't weather it as if the roof is leaking, for example, but they have to find the people to do the work and so they're struggling to find the people to do the work even though they have a fair amount of funding right now for that work. So the question is where do we find those people who are willing to step into that hot, dusty attic and do the work? They also have recently increased how much they pay per hour, which will hopefully be helpful in finding and retaining workers, because I think it's going up by about $3 an hour, which is a pretty big jump starting July 1st, but even so it's hard to find the people. Where do we find the people? So I took it for the community aspect. I'm thinking of Lake Champlain Sea Grant and I'm thinking in particular my PEOPLE Supervisor Up has really focused on salt and salt reduction in Vermont or the basin in total and it's interesting because it's got to be the road crews and what we're realizing is it's very hard to get a hold of road crew individuals for many reasons, but that she is leading salt summits that in the off season, during summer time and things like that, where road crews aren't necessarily starting to salt by having them come and talk about, hey, why is it important to calibrate your machine and X, Y, or Z? So that's something that's happening, but I think then when I took it as community as well in my personal community in Bolton, it's we have extremely bad erosion problems. We are on a mountain, our road and so our road crews are just they're sanding and I just even living there a year and a half, I've seen that the road has already increased probably three, four, five inches and that's causing issues in our personal driveway and so I think the amount of time that they graze, I think for such a small town that they're almost like looking for things to do is like let's graze the road. I think that there's opportunities out there to work with road crews to know why you only add X amount of salt or X amount of gravel or things like that because you can see the sides of our road right now are just encompassed by loads and loads of sand which obviously are going to go into the streams or rivers and have exponential impacts later down the road. So two different views of the community aspect but I think road crews are an important aspect of that climate workforce that you can kind of target to hopefully do some sort of education set of things. So through the Sea Grant program you're able to do some of those trainings, you're able to provide them. Yeah, yes and no. Obviously we're a smaller organization too so you can only do so many trainings and there's between New York and Vermont because that's all part of the basin that's quite a few towns it's like 300 plus towns so you can't get 300 towns new with each and every single road crew that you try and broke them all in but it doesn't quite work out that way. And I've heard similar things about it can be hard to you have to find the right timing for the training and it can be hard to if you're already trying to ramp up your workforce say in weatherization which is what I'm more familiar with and yet you want to train those people you also want to be fully having them in the field doing their work so it can be it can be a hard balance to to find. What else is going on in in communities that can help develop the workforce that you're aware of anything? Yeah, I was also thinking of outreach activities especially at the university we do a lot of outreach and it starts with K through 12 and I'm wondering what the age is of the folks who can start off in projects like weatherization so for example Ken high school juniors and seniors take it on as a as a summer job and get into the profession that way and start out and make some good money over the summer and then find their path as you pointed out earlier. And I know Sheldon farms has been doing just an excellent job with training educators and helping them bring more clever education in schools and universities in just excellent best practices and models. So in terms of training Yeah, I think those are both really good points. Sorry, I can't always think and type at the same time. So if I pause awkwardly, that's what's going on. It is interesting finding the bite-sized pieces that could be carved off for a summer job because again you can't train someone in a you know it takes three months to train someone to be a full weatherization worker but there may be specific aspects of that job or there may be other jobs that are climate jobs that could go to youth and definitely starting training younger. I think that that's a really good point as well. It's not just when students are when young people are 18. There's a need for that training earlier on and later on. It's not just the 18 to 25 year olds either who need the training. Any other thoughts on this one? The town of Bethel is with the Ibaraki Chikyu River's planning regional planning commission is rezoning to make it possible for more multifamily dwellings and smaller properties along the roadways. Hopefully because we're finding that you can offer somebody a job but they don't can't find some place to live and then they can't find child care. So but so we're working to rezone so that we can hopefully provide housing for people. I would also comment that our contractors in the area local building people they're booked for the next year and a half. There are not enough of them to do the work that they are now as seeking to do let alone weatherizing 100 year old houses like I live in. So that's a real issue. This is a real issue. And it's a chicken or egg situation. We need the housing to have more workers to build more housing to it does feel that way sometimes like how do we how where's the leverage point where we can start. But I think that that is a really good example of the rezoning for more multifamily dwellings and I've heard of more multifamily dwellings being put in in some areas around Chittenden County as well. I think it's really important and hope that the standards that are in place on those buildings mean that they get built so they don't need to be weatherized later because they get done right the first time around. But that's great. Any other thoughts on this one. We have a new community center serving Washington County and Barry or at least some portion of Washington County. So that is an opportunity to provide that's a community center. I mean career center an opportunity to provide training for high school age students in all sorts of building related careers. Yeah and the those career and TechEd centers are doing great work in bringing youth along. I had the chance when I was with Vermont Energy Education program to travel around and do sort of a listening tour at some of the career TechEd centers and it was interesting to see how vastly different they are. The one in Newport sends more students to college than the actual high school there does. It's massive and it's like it looks like a college and then there's some that are very small and they're sort of serving more of the students who are struggling in the traditional educational setting and I'm hopeful that we'll continue to grow those so that they serve whoever wants to be there and to be learning in that way at a slightly younger age is sort of hands on and technical work. All right. How about this second question. What are additional needs that you know of in your community that could be helpful. Maybe we've already named a lot of those. Any child care workforce. Are there gaps that you know about anything that we didn't name already. Is there I think a gap that constantly comes to mind is not knowing who's doing what already. And so I don't know if I'm reinventing the wheel because that program already exists or do we really generally need new programming or new direction. And especially with the state kind of coming up with the new climate office or the some of the new setup for the climate action plan. Order that might be a good place to house some of these things like the workforce development is in support of the climate and energy and these sectors then could there be a centralized body that at least has an ongoing list of who's doing what. Because there that list is housed is always the question because who's going to maintain it. Yeah. Part of it's in my head and lots of other people's heads but how do you actually make that accessible to to others. Yeah. All right. How about that final question who should be involved in finding solutions. So I was curious the very first quite the very first comment that we heard was it should be shouldn't be on the communities it should be or if I'm I may be paraphrising this wrong. You can correct me I would welcome that but more that the state should be doing more it shouldn't be on the communities. I think I guess my feeling is we're all in this together and we need everybody to be helping to find the community or helping to find the solutions. So I'm curious you know what groups or what what structures might be in place to help find solutions. Was if the state is serious which is not for sure then they need to make this very easy for people to do. People who don't have a lot of time. People who are working you know it can't be like waiting for the cable guy to show up and I got to leave work here. It's got to be easy to the point of of just like raising your hand and people come and do it type thing easier than getting cable and since it's a state goal the state should have its people move it. Now there is a lot of to me work that can be done by churches or the capstone agency or you name it to explain to people like listen they're for real they'll come to your house they don't rip out your wall if you don't want to you know that's your favorite window whatever the things are to do that kind of explaining about the program but from the user side I think we make these things complicated when they need to be literally like a 911 call 811 and they say and I give you the address and you come and do it while they're at work and they come home and there's just a new water like or a weatherization whatever it is it's got to be super super easy. Yeah I hear you it's hard to coordinate all of those things yeah and it's hard for anyone to know everything that's going on especially if it's not your day job and everything that's available to people there is a new program of finance financial and energy navigators out of the community action programs which I think is a fabulous model I'm very excited about capstone community action and Barry is sort of coordinating it but all of the community action programs around the state have someone who's been hired to help coach people the financial both finances and energy so what can they do to save money but in particular looking at their home and transportation needs etc and those people will be well versed in all of the different programs that are happening but you really need that across the board that's mainly going to be for low and moderate income people you need it for people at all at all levels of of the spectrum and for landlords because a lot of people obviously don't own their own or we can't make those choices for themselves necessarily any other thoughts on that question or any other thoughts in general I know it's the end of a long day and I'm sitting looking at you on a screen but I'd love to hear if you have any other thoughts about climate workforce the needs or the opportunities that you're aware of that you'd be interested in sharing with one another I think it's just important to find partnerships you know even the reason I'm here at this conference is that even though my background specialty might not necessarily be in hazard resilience we're looking for the partnership saying hey we've got the funds and the resources to be the moderator and run that Zoom call in that web series and you're the one that's giving out EPA grant funding right now to municipal officials we'll find municipal officials to come listen to that webinar but I'm not going to present on that and that's not my specialty and so just that partnership of you can't carry everything yourself but it does take effort to make the partnership and it can't be a one-way street but you also need people to pick up those phone calls are put in the effort too or have the same schedule as you you know the list goes on and on where potential hurdles can be yeah I think one of the themes that I'm hearing from you all is around communication communication and partnerships to me there there's a similarity there it's it's the how do you know where the information is coming from how do you know how to get good information how do you know who's doing what so that you can call on them and know who to reach out to does that sound like it's kind of a theme a theme in the room it is but there's also the balance with there's too much information you know we some of websites including where we're sitting today and one of the issues with websites is that everything's on it which means you can't find anything and it's I think everyone struggles to find that balance how do you hand out that information but do it in a clear and concise way when you're trying to convey 40,000 different messages and it goes back to Kevin's point of we have people we're a lot of us are just trying to make it through the day and we only have so much mental capacity to face what's in front of us and now you're asking you to go chase down even something as simple as putting in a website to find somebody to come take care of something that's not my immediate need and I think when we talk about communication it just it's that that's that hard balance how do you communicate everything you have to communicate in a way that you're not overwhelming people who are already overwhelmed it is I like the ice cream truck approach and you know what I mean like it's ridiculous as it sounds so like if you're out in front of my house and you're saying I'm gonna come in and do an energy audit I'm gonna be like okay if I have to put it on my calendar as conscientious and says I am as a person I'm going to struggle to do that people want to do good things they want to avail themselves of the of all of these opportunities they just don't have the individual capacity to do so I know the problem I don't have a solution but I think that's the balance we're trying to find yeah so it's not just communication it's it's again going back to that you got to make it really really easy and I think part of the communication piece is also that it really does come down to human beings you know we can have all of this these cool tools like when I showed you earlier and we can have all of these resources but a lot of it comes down to who can I actually call up and ask the question because I trust them so I guess that's part of what we need to build up is those those resources and how do we make it as simple as possible and if I should as an example most people do not know that the American Red Cross will put in smoke detectors for free I didn't know that most people and it's not across the board but most do I happened upon the only reason I found that out is because we lived in an area where actually the fire department had a grant to put them in I got our whole house done for free so I moved which we do all the time and I started asking around and I accidentally found the Red Cross program that came in and probably put in $50 worth of smoke detectors in the house that never had a smoke detector I'm exceptionally brilliant it took me time to figure that out I started telling people about it and they're like I didn't I didn't know I didn't know again and if you ask the American Red Cross they'll tell you oh we tell everybody so it's just that practical they were just driving down the street and said would you like us to go bring in the boat I was like Kevin's idea I think it's the answer to everything I'm serious because if we need the person to call the Red Cross we've lost about it yeah we need the Red Cross to show up in their driveway on Saturday morning and say we'll play with your kids don't worry about it here's a biscuit for you dog we are coming in just take the water heater off the truck you know it'll be an hour boom we got 80,000 of these things to do in the next seven years for us or 100,000 it is it is national guard mobilization it is not develop a program hope you make the call and do the website right but we need the people do the work too so I mean part of me is wondering like are there people who would come out of retirement to do some of these and maybe it's not the installing the weatherization but maybe it's the person driving the ice cream truck for weatherization right or the the you know what I mean like are there people who could do some of this hand-holding and talking to people and letting people know what's happening who might not otherwise want to be in the workforce that's an idea it just came up with from listening to you there's a program AmeriCorps seniors I used to run and RSVP it's AmeriCorps seniors it's a nationwide program that the government is piling money into right now and it is a group of volunteers 55 and older who serve their community that is a and again though each of those programs is individually run and they have their individual needs it is finding that yes there's our answer that and then they can go out and do what they do best is find volunteers and with certain skill sets but then you're going to have a liability issue the attorney there's going to be a liability issue so again it's that whole goes back to the state is in the best position to make that happen because they can use their resources to make all those connections and make the program work problem solved what's that program called again it's RSVP it's RSVP so retired and senior volunteer program they just changed their name because of course they extend money and main changes all the time and it's AmeriCorps seniors so if you if you follow that they and there is one there are seven number one that is a really cool talk because I've been thinking about galvanizing retired engineering colleagues and thinking about needs of so Kevin I talked to you this morning just in terms of municipal municipalities that struggle with finding the trained professionals and it's not even to do the final project which could go to a formal technical firm but to do the scoping of what where are the gaps what do we need and what's the timeline what's the budget and just get some of that initial planning done which hopefully minimizes liability and I didn't know about this program so it's really exciting to hear but it could be that you know like I really colleagues who are retired but not they just don't want the whole day time to the desk but they're still interested in helping and especially for community work that's great thank you that's also a large summer job for college students if communities can afford that right now we can afford a lot on the money that's floating around to ARPA yes and no yes and no right as a select board member we need to be incentivized to use the ARPA money for this crisis we're not being it's too easy to use the ARPA money to maintain the roads and keep doing what we've always been doing without hiring somebody to do the research into electric vehicles for dump trucks and and snow plows and sidewalk plows we don't have the staff that can do that we don't have volunteers who say I got a day job I can't do it we need to hire people at the community level who can watch for the grants get the money you know tell us well there's some ARPA money here you can use for this right now we're trying to figure what to do with ARPA but it's it's not going to go to climate change unless there is some real incentivizing for local communities to use that ARPA money in ways they that it's money that they would not have had otherwise they can keep on keep it on that's great but it's not going to solve crime it's kind of the ice cream truck for villagers right and there's I don't know how much the Vermont clean cities coalition is reaching out to communities and I don't know how connecting ARPA is but I know they have information on some of the technologies you were talking about in terms of you know the electric street sweeper or whatever those pieces are that's one of the information sources that's good feedback thank you I would say also working with the college age love look I know Seagram in particular has gotten funding through NOAA and above to fund students they're not going to use the correct terminology the families that they're first-generation college age students so not only is it then paying for their internship throughout the school year but it's then those students showing what programs they're interested in and Seagram then works trying to again that partnership affect to reach out to people in green infrastructure throughout saying hey we got this intern they're part of our program you know here's their cover letter this is their background and then because the student has said it has expressed interest in that field it's not them necessarily going and looking for that job it's through the organization saying hey reach out to these people will pay like Seagram literally pays their internship but the internship is through another organization that specializes in what that student is interested in so that's where that partnership comes into play if we've got the funding to pay them but we don't have that internship here what's your where can you as a green infrastructure X Y or Z get a college age student to come do that etc yeah thanks for that idea as well there are probably also a lot of these jobs that do not require college education and a six-figure debt load when you graduate so how do we incentivize people to not feel second-class or less than because they choose to be a contractor or a heating heater installer or a plumber electrician I mean those are maybe we make them college courses and then the trades that we need are not necessarily those who are going to be college graduates we need to learn how to value that absolutely I completely agree with you I think we're supposed to be done now and I don't at 515 I'm not sure if that's you I'm happy to keep talking but I also don't want to keep you sitting inside if you would like to go and enjoy this beautiful evening I will throw up here my email address scara at eanbt.org would get to me and I'm really happy to continue any conversations to invite anyone into you know some of the conversations I know are happening or just to answer questions if more ideas come to you if more if specific questions I am a person who connects people it's one of the things that I like to do so welcome continued conversation and I'm really grateful that you stuck around for this conversation and sorry I couldn't have been in the room there with you thank you thank you thank you so much Cara I think it's a really productive conversation so thank you again


I did actually ask, you know, am I going to die if I don't have this operation? And he said yes and I said well I want to live so let's just get on with it. My name is Jane Hunt and I'm a Member of Parliament for Loughborough. I went to see my GP and they sent me for a colonoscopy. I went to Leicester General Hospital, they carry out the colonoscopy and you can see it on the on the screen at the same time. So you could see you know pink pink this lovely all the way round your colon and then there was this big black thing. I'm told it was about the size of a satsuma and I'm afraid I said what the hell's that? And the surgeon said I'm sorry I'm afraid that's cancer. So they go through the rest of the process and I have to say I'm not quite sure I was aware of everything at that stage. He went through the situation explained it very well very very calmly matter of factly that I did have bowel cancer. I was very grateful to him in fact I thanked him for the way he put it. Because he was perfectly calm he explained it to me thoroughly I understood and I really trusted him. I did actually ask you know am I going to die if I don't have this operation and he said yes and I said well I want to live so let's just get on with it. I was terrified I'll be honest with you. The surgeon and anesthetist all leaned over me as I was lying down and said they knew who I was and what I did and they said so about planning and of course we just we're just laughed and I laughed they relaxed me completely and that's the the last thing really I remember before I woke up in they high dependency unit. You have the operation you have a recovery period and then you start chemotherapy so I did try to go back to work earlier I promised I would do a speech for the police. I lent the back of my legs on against the chair and stood up and said it and sat down. I knew I wasn't well enough to come back which was really really heartbreaking. It's hard to explain but I felt like I'd let the side down and so I just couldn't tell people I just couldn't not not at first. I need to look after Loughborough.  I feel really really good I'm gradually coming out of it life is really valuable that's what I've taken away forget money forget ambition forget any of those things it's people that you you really really realise are the most important things in your life.


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