one of the very best Sony Trinitron CRT monitors available on the market. That is the Sony PVM 2005, which we're looking at right here. This one has just come into the shop and we're going to take an initial look at it. But first, if this is your first time to the channel, please consider adding us to your subscription list. If you do like this content, we also do a lot of other things with CRTs and retro technologies and collections of all sorts. So please check out any one of our playlists for something that might be helpful or informative to you. But now let's get back to this monitor. So this monitor is one of the most prized monitors for the CRT collector and that is mainly because of the many features it offers. This one does not only do a great job when it comes to retro gaming and 240p content and it will display beautiful scan lines, but it also goes beyond that and allows you to do things in other formats such as 480p, 720p, and I believe even 1080i. Anything you can do with HDSDI or Component. So let's just take a first initial look around here. I want to talk about some of the features that Sony added specifically to this model. Let us start here at the front of the monitor. You'll notice here on this, as you will see, multi-format power and energize your PVM. There is an LED indicator down here that shows when there is power onto this unit. And just what I wanted to highlight here is this control bar. So you don't see anything right now, but if you hit that control button, you're going to pull up a lot of features. And they're pretty self-explanatory. They match a lot of the things we've talked about before, but the reason I'm pulling this up is because this is not brand new. This was something that was used in the 2030 models from the early 90s, but Sony got so smart at the time they made this monitor. They went back. They took that design to have a sleeker look on the outside, but had the same functionality of those buttons. So they went back and used that old format for these buttons to bring them to this later model, which again is pretty much one of the last PVM CRTs to be produced. That's just what I wanted to show there. So easily to get that on and off by pressing that control button. And then you push that button again to de-interjize the monitor. I've moved our picture a little bit to the side here so you can see something else that was great that was done with this particular PVM is there is a way to remove this screen bezel without just taking the whole monitor apart. So if you had a problem in the past, we had some kind of damage to the exterior on this bezel, which may have nothing to do with the internal functionality of the monitor.  Not on this one. You've actually got four screws, one here, one here, and then two on the other side that you can remove.  So we will be doing that to clean it. And so what I want to do right now is I'm just going to take these screws out. And when you come back, we'll see what it looks like without the bezel. Okay. So all I've done is removed my four screws and I've kind of slipped the bezel out just a touch. And please remember that your power button right here will just slip out and fall out since there's nothing keeping pressure on it and it's not back in its original spot. So do not lose this or you'll have trouble and do not lose either any of the screws from the bezel. But what I wanted you to show you here was that you can take this bezel out and kind of lift it and move it out like here so you could see we've got our controls. There's a light fixture on the front here indicated that will tell us a certain mode. If we trip it into that mode that will light up the front on that bar. These other wires go into our controls on the side of our control board here. But if you were to have some kind of trouble with that bezel, it is replaceable or you can get it around here so you can get a good chance to what we'll do is clean actually around our CRT screen. You can see too here. This is a great example. There's actually a anti-glare layer on this layer of this CRT. So if you had a scuff, I have heard in the past of people peeling that layer off of their monitor screen. And then they don't have the anti-glare layer. But if you're in a dark room and using the CRT, it won't matter much anyway. But that is a way to get rid of any small scuffs on this version of the PVM. And it's something to look for if you are buying this PVM to make sure somebody hasn't pulled it off already because if it doesn't have that anti-glare, I feel like it does decrease from the value. And that's not something you'll be able to just see on an internet picture. So that's how that bezel comes off and works. We're going to clean it up and we'll go through that in another video. But that's just the part on the bezel. Let's look at some more things on the outside of this monitor first. Now something else that's different about the design on this PVM a little bit is there's not a mono speaker that you can see on the front. There is a mono speaker inside the PVM, but it's not visible as it was in the other earlier models that you could tell where the speaker is. You can't see it visually from the front. So another thing to note is this does have a slightly smaller frame. So it doesn't take up nearly as much space, a couple of inches less overall than a cube-sized or the larger-sized Sony PVMs that would be a 20L2, the 20M2, 1954Q, et cetera, anything along those lines. This is a slightly smaller version. It does have the same types of setups as a 20L2 down here. And when we go through and clean it, we'll take a closer look at that. But what I want to focus on this part of the video is this back area here. Then we put video card or blank area over here. This is a spot on our PVM where we can add an additional supporting video card. Now, there's only a specific few cards that will fit in this one. There is an HDSDI or SDI board that I do have a cup of one of in storage, but I don't really use it. But we will do some tests with that later on with the HD signal and see how that looks on this monitor. Today, I wanted to show you this board, which sometimes people are looking for. It's a Sony BKM129X. It's for an additional RGB input and output or a component input and output. And today, I was just going to show you, if you do end up getting these, how simple it is to install this board. There's no software to install. First off, you want to look in there and make sure you're on the right side, which the board should go on the furthest outside portion. And it should just simply slide in. And then it just has a little push in, a little bit of force you could feel the cartridge kind of go into the slot there. And then you just can hand turn these little screws on the back of this. And that will have, there you go. You've got your card install. And that's as simple as there is. And then you should have one of these to go with this card, which is just a blank filler. This monitor cannot support two additional cards. But sometimes the SDI card is wider than the simple component card we just installed. So this one, you just got to kind of work it in there a little bit. And then it too is hand tightened in. And that way, you don't have an open space there for your monitor. It's just to keep that area clean from dust, et cetera. But I wanted to show you how to improperly install that. And then you'll be able to use the standard OSD. It'll automatically detect what's in there in that hardware. So it's very easy to insert and change out boards on this as you have them. And you need to use different formats. It's very simple to change that on this particular PVM. OK, back here in front of the monitor with it turned on for the first time. You can see just how great and crisp everything maybe looks from there. But what I wanted you to notice here too is that there are some issues on the screen that we're going to have to do for calibration. And so today, we're not going to start that calibration. But I want you to see, maybe what I can show you here. I can already tell that we've got an issue where the yoke is slightly tilted, which is a good thing because we'll be able to have an opportunity in the next video to adjust the yoke. And I can show you the new techniques to adjust the yoke on this 20L5, which should translate to other do, a geometry adjustment on the screen, at least its centerness and its size to expand it out to be the right size of the screen. One last thing about this bezel. You'll notice there are some slots in here. This bezel, you can insert a 16 by 9 widescreen bezel. The input for this, if you wanted to have widescreen on this monitor and it would condense your screen size to a screen like this, but there is a bezel attachment. So it will block out the blank screen parts if you, for some reason, wanted to do that. But I don't think anybody would want to do that. So just so you know how to operate this control menu, I've got it pulled up here. Again, you'll see we've got line A, B, RGB, and component. And if we hit exit sync, look what happens. So it goes crazy. But see, if you put back your external sync, it's going to go back into that. So that was just a RGB internal sync without the external sync mode. And so you can switch over to component like that too. We've got underscanned. We've got that 16 by 9 squished screen format. We've got a blue only, which is really helpful for getting your grays color aligned. And then we've got our mono audio, just a couple of other things here that a reset, a degauss button, and a couple of other things. An HV delay, which is important, is getting for sync. You got a menu, you got to get through the menu the same way as before, when you need to make an adjustment, you push the menu button and it pulls up your menu. And then by using the same combination as we have before with those, we can access the sub menu, which we will also do in the next video and fully calibrate this monitor. And then we'll actually get in here and test run some games. But that's just a quick rundown on actually turning this thing on, getting it functioning, and getting to a starting point where now we do need to calibrate it, but we're also going to take apart the shell and get it really nice and clean too, since we know it's in good shape. We want to get it calibrated and clean, and then we can really start getting the heavy testing as far as what goes on. Now after our inspection here, I'm feeling like maybe we're going to just do a, go ahead and do a capacitor replacement on this thing and get it nice and fresh and ready for at least 10 more years of service without any real problems or worries or anything. So the tube looks great on this monitor. This is again, one of the best monitors. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything in here that you feel like we left out that needs to be addressed on the next video. I appreciate your time today. If you really enjoyed this video, please give us a thumbs up. And thanks again for watching Retro Tech. I'm Steve, have a great day.


It is now time for Question Period, the leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the acting Premier. The Premier got caught. She got caught giving away millions of dollars to teachers unions with nothing in return.  Let's go over the timeline. On Wednesday it was business as usual. Last Thursday it was we don't need receipts. Monday it was this is certainly not business as usual. Tuesday it was it will never happen again. Yesterday it was the unions must produce receipts. Every day it's a different storyline. Even soap operas have longer storylines in this government. Seriously Mr. Speaker, it is unbelievable. Will the acting Premier confirm that the government's position hasn't changed again today because there's been six positions in a week? Thank you Speaker, and good morning. I think what we have demonstrated Speaker is a firm commitment to the well-being of students in our classroom and we have demonstrated evidence of the success of students. And this process Speaker has been successful. Students have remained in the classroom. They are getting the education that they need to be successful. So let's just remember these negotiations have been difficult. We are it is in line with our net zeroing bargaining process that I would hope the leader of the opposition would support a net zero bargaining process. We have done this without making any cuts to the classroom whatsoever. This new process did require resources. We are in a time of transition so that in future negotiations will go much more smoothly and require much less time Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again to the acting Premier. The only commitment this government has demonstrated is to the Liberal Party. The government said $2.5 million was to go for pizza parties and sleepovers. If that excuse was real the government would have asked for receipts from the start. Even though the public now suspects the money was really just for the government's own purposes for their own partisan purposes, the arrogance is astounding. This government is eroding public confidence in the education system. Mr. Speaker, does the Premier not understand that her multi-million dollar union payouts have undermined the integrity of our education system and the people that work in it? What this party and what this leader wants to do is continue the attack on our partners in education, the unions and Federation and describe it as a sleepover and pizza party demonstrates as clearly as anything he said that he has no respect whatsoever for the collective bargaining process or for the Federation that represent our teachers. Thank you. Final supplementary. Mr. Speaker, again to the acting Premier, this party values our educators. What we will not stand for is the attack on the classroom. And you know what, if this government doesn't want to listen to the public, if they don't want to listen to the constructive advice of the official opposition well maybe you can listen to the Toronto Star. The Toronto Star Off-Ed yesterday said, I quote, if the payments made from the governments to the unions were really necessary then there is no reason they should have been kept hidden from the public. The payments of 2.5 million which were kept hidden from the public seem almost impossible to defend. End quote. The payments are impossible to defend because they are made for political purposes. Mr. Speaker, will the deputy leader of the Ontario Liberal Party commit to giving back the millions of dollars she has taken from Ontario's classrooms no more spend, no more excuses, yes or no, will you pay the money back? Deputy Premier. Speaker, the member opposite talks about his party's commitment to the classroom. Well, let me just remind the third party of what their record was when we took office back in 2003. At that time, three kids was not graduating from high school. One in three high school students did not graduate, Speaker. We have been able- Shouting down is not helpful nor is other heckling from the government side helpful. Please finish. We have been able to raise the graduation rate to 84% Speaker and will continue to improve progress there. So let's make it very clear the cost of this successful process with unions was offset by savings in the collective agreement including early discounted payment of retirement gratuities, lowering the cost of sick leave and making the delivery of professional development more efficient. Speaker. Thank you. New question. The member from Kitchener class told us. Speaker, my questions to the acting Premier. Can the acting Premier with a straight face guarantee us today that not one red cent of the millions of dollars funneled to teachers' unions was spent on third party election ads that benefited the Liberal Party? With a straight face? Yes. Thank you, supplementary. Speaker, she can't guarantee us because she's part- No trust you. Start the clock. Supplementary. We'll see how their votes are on Wednesday when the auditor's asked to look at these- Yeah, exactly. The financial accountability officer this morning when it comes to trust- No trust. Government. Zero trust. She's part of a chain that sees teachers' unions spend millions of election ads one year and receive millions back to cover hotel and pizza costs the next. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, leading to questions of taxpayers' money funding election ads. Yet just this month, her government again reminded us the Liberal Party will be strengthening Ontario's rules on third party advertising only minutes before rejecting our call on proposed strengthening restrictions. Speaker, they understand there's a problem. The only ones who don't understand there's deeply something here inherently wrong is them. If she can't guarantee our money's been spent, will the active Premier deliver on it? Thank you. I'd like to remind everyone that where this whole discussion started was on the implementation of a new collective bargaining act. That act, the bargaining under that act in question actually has led to three successful ratified collective agreements with the English Catholic teachers, with the secondary teachers in the English public system and with the French teachers in both the French public and French Catholic teachers. Those were long processes because we were working through a new process and yes, we were pleased to invest in making sure that process happened and as the Premier said yesterday, there will be a count. Final supplementary. It also led to millions of dollars to unions to run election ads that benefit the Liberal Party. Even the Toronto Star is calling on the Premier to deliver on that pledge and to ensure no future government will be tainted by the suspicion of unfairly funding lavish third party campaigns. We agree, Speaker, yet instead the Premier refuses to live up to her word and diverts attention to flip-flop on the need for receipts just to justify those continued payouts. Just follow the money speaker and she'll know what's on those receipts. Millions of dollars plus in partisan third party election advertising bills. It's time to end this tired taxpayer funding charade. Will the acting Premier tell us if we will see the promised new regulations to halt potential government payouts for third party advertising before any further millions are handed over to those unions? I would like to repeat that what we have done is transformed the collective bargaining system. We were able to get net zero. As the Premier said, the particular payments in question have not yet flowed. There will be an accountability process. As I said yesterday, there will be accountability. There will be a schedule of permissible things which certainly do not include... A member from Redford, come to order. Thank you. And that there will be verification required of those permissible payments which are allowed. But I think what we need to understand is that in fact that is part of our net zero. And the net zero payments and increases to composition are offset by early discounted payout of retirement gratuity lowering the cost of sick leave. Thank you. New question in the leader of the third party? Thank you very much, Speaker. This morning's FAO report... Sorry to the acting Premier, Speaker. This morning's FAO report shows what new Democrats have been saying all along, Speaker. We have been saying it for months. The sell-off of Hydro-1 is a bad deal for the families and businesses of this province. While the Premier has been telling Ontarians over and over again that the sell-off will raise $4 billion for infrastructure and transit, the FAO report shows, Speaker, that the sell-off could raise as little as $1.4 billion, a fraction of what she has been promising. Will this Premier and her government stop the unnecessary and short-sighted sell-off of Hydro-1? Thank you, Speaker. And I do want to take this opportunity to thank the financial accountability officer, Stephen LeClaire, for his report. I welcome his assessment of our plan to broaden the ownership of Hydro-1. Let's not forget, Speaker. This is all about building infrastructure. We're making historic investments in infrastructure, $130 billion over the next 10 years to build that badly-needed infrastructure right across the province. We need to build that infrastructure.  You know, experts have called for an increase in infrastructure spending. They're up to 5% of our GDP. This will help us get there, Speaker. I think the member also has to recognize that not making investments in infrastructure has a cost as well. Thank you. Speaker, the Premier has been claiming that the sell-off of Hydro-1 will raise $4 billion for transit and infrastructure. But the FAO clearly shows today that the sell-off could generate just $1.4 billion, Speaker. $1.4 billion is just 1%. 1% of the Premier's $130 billion of infrastructure and transit promises. And yet the Premier would have the people of Ontario believe that it is essential for her to sell off our most trusted, most important public asset for that 1%, Speaker. Just 1%. And the Premier wants us to lose control of our electricity system and put the future of Ontario's financial well-being in jeopardy. This is a terrible deal, Speaker. And it makes no sense whatsoever will the Premier and her government stop this insane sell-off of Hydro-1. Thank you, Deputy Premier. Well, clearly what the leader of the third party does not understand is that there is a link between the broadening the ownership of Hydro-1 and investments in infrastructure and investing in infrastructure has a payoff as well, Speaker. The Conference Board of Canada says that for every $100 million invested in infrastructure, about 114 million is produced in real GDP, a payoff of a 14% Speaker. That is a real return on investment. That is a return on investment that benefits all Ontarians. We do need to make investments in infrastructure. The leader of the third party has a couple of ideas neither of which hold water. Speaker, we're moving forward with our plan to build up Ontario. We're moving forward with our plan to build badly needed infrastructure. And the people of Ontario report that infrastructure investment, Speaker. Thank you. Final supplementary. The FAO report provides Ontarians with the very first independent analysis of this Premier's wrong-headed sell-off. At $4 billion, this sell-off was unnecessary in the first place, Speaker. And it was a bad deal at $4 billion. At $1.4 billion, it is ludicrous, ludicrous that the Premier would even consider it, Speaker. $1.4 billion works out to $140 million per year over 10 years, Speaker. If the Premier cannot find $140 million from other sources than she and her Minister of Finance and her Minister of Energy and her Chair of Treasury Board should just step aside, Speaker. Will this Premier and your government commit to Ontarians today to stop the unnecessary sell-off of Hydro-1? Thank you. Mr. Finance. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank the Financial Accountability Officer for his report. I recognize how important it is for us to have that open and transparent engagement. We've had a strong and positive relationship with the FAO, and it is indeed the first such report by any province recognizing that we're building on the very things that we've enacted. Furthermore, it is also important to note that the Financial Accountability Officer made no reference, and he purposely said so in terms of the net benefit that comes from the broadening of ownership and the reinvestment of those dollars into new investments and new issues to stimulate the economy. Nor does it talk about the appreciation of the value of this company, because we recognize that Hydro-1 has been underperforming and can do better, of which, by the way, we will continue to own and still benefit from dividends over time. Mr. Speaker, this is going forward for the benefit of the people and for the reinvestment. Thank you. Your question? She is also for the Acting Premier, Speaker. The FAO report shows once again the contempt that this Liberal Government and this Premier have for the people of Ontario, and it has been repeated by this Finance Minister and by this Chair of Treasury Board just this morning, Speaker. They have been promising $4 billion from the sell-off of Hydro-1 at every opportunity, and yet we now learn that they could get $1.4 billion spread over 10 years. That $140 million a year, that's only 0.001% of the province's budget, Speaker. That's gross incompetency if you cannot find room in your budget without selling Hydro-1 to fund $140 million a day to stop the sell-off of Hydro-1 and finding a better way to raise that money, Speaker. It clearly states and affirms that the valuation of Hydro-1 is going to net the province a substantive amount of dollars to reinvest in infrastructure and the member opposite is speculating on the valuation of Hydro-1 which we'll know in short-order because the market will bear that price but more importantly the member from Timmins James May. Finish, please. We are on track to provide over $9 billion in receipts to this government of which $5 billion will go towards debt to be reinvested in infrastructure. Mr. Speaker, what we want to ensure is that we build without borrowing. Member from Essex. Finish, please. And Mr. Speaker, we're taking a very careful and stage approach by broadening the ownership of Hydro-1 unlike the reckless plan that was proposed by the official opposition. We recognize that these things are important and we have a greater benefit for society. Thank you. Supplementary. GDP demanded the creation of the financial accountability office so that we could catch up with what we did, Speaker. Without the FAO we would never have known that the sell-off of Hydro-1 would earn billions of dollars less than what the Premier has promised. This time we can actually stop another bad deal before it costs Ontario families and businesses billions and billions of dollars. Will this acting Premier commit today to stopping the unnecessary the wrong-headed the financially inappropriate sell-off of Hydro-1 before it's done? The member from Trinity Spadina and the member from Hamilton Eastoni Creek would you please come to order while the question is being put and the answer subsequently. Minister of Finance. This is one of the largest investment transactions in the history of our province and it is because we recognize that this asset is underperforming and we know we can do better and that is why we proceeded in this way and we're taking only a 15% state so we can see an exactly assess its value. So we are taking proper and careful approach and we're on track to achieve the results. But, Mr. Speaker, what this is about is investing in Hamilton, investing in public transit investing in families so that they get to and from home more quickly and more safely. It is about making us more competitive Mr. Speaker, that is what we're doing. We're ensuring that we continue to build without boring the member opposite and the champagne socialists would prefer us to borrow a perpetuity, Mr. Speaker. We cannot do that. We've got to be physically responsible and we are doing so here. I would remind all of us but I'd like to acknowledge to the minister that those are the kinds of things that don't help and engage a good dialogue and a good debate and that I would challenge all of us to raise to the top and not to the bottom. I'll wait. Start the clock. Final supplementary. Speaker, when the premier formed her privatization panel she said that the process would quote be transparent and independently validated. It has been anything but transparent, Speaker. Even now the government is withholding documents from the financial accountability officer. Now the first independent analysis even without those documents has been done, Speaker and it clearly says that this is a bad deal for Ontarians and that the premier should keep Hydro public. Will this liberal government follow the advice of the financial accountability officer and commit today to stopping the sell off of Hydro 1 before this project that the liberals have on their docket actually turns into the next liberal boondoggle, billion dollar liberal boondoggle for the province of Ontario. Mr. Speaker we've acted in accordance with and consistent with the 2013 financial accountability act which we brought forward and which was agreed to by this entire host unanimously to ensure that the confidentiality of cabinet documents are withheld and I will not break the law that I'm entitled to report to and I will continue to abide by that but more importantly Mr. Speaker we are investing in the things that matter most to Ontarians. We are taking an asset that is underperforming recognizing that we can do better and ensuring that we protect others. We're going to be competing with Toronto Hydro Horizon as well as Rampton Hydro all of which are actually performing much better than Toronto Hydro. This is an opportunity for us to provide greater discipline and in the end more value for that operation greater dividends to shareholders of which we will own 85% of after the first tranche and Mr. Speaker the member opposite is actually suggesting that regulated companies should be owned by the province. In that regard we nozzle by Inbridge Gas Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker my question this morning is for the acting premier not only is the sell off of Hydro one the worst deal in the province's history it's resulted in another scandal this morning. Mr. Speaker you think this government would have learned this week about doing things behind closed doors but I guess some people never learn. We learned from the financial accountability officer this morning in his report to the legislature that the FAO cannot reproduce council's estimate because the province has deemed this methodology to be a cabinet record and has chosen not to release it. Once again this week a member of the government has to stand up here in the legislature and ask the government what it's hiding. Why is there so much information that government doesn't want the public to have. But I guess I'm asking the minister responsible for orange this question this morning. Speaker will the acting premier commit to turning over all of the cabinet documents related to the sale of Hydro one to the financial accountability officer. Deputy premier. I'm going to talk about the worst deal in government in the history of Ontario. Finish please. I'm reminded that the 407 was valued at about 12 billion dollars and I believe you sold it. We'll do it again. And when I said if it continues I'll stand again. It's your time. So it was sold for a fraction of its value. Like maybe about 25 percent of its value it was sold once. The whole thing a hundred percent is what my colleague likes to say. First we paid to pave it. Now we pay to drive on it. The worst deal ever. Perfect. Supplementary. Speaker I know that asking this government to be transparent is quite an ask. And asking them to be transparent is kind of like taking business ethic lessons from Bernie Madoff. That's what this is like asking you guys to be transparent. In his report this morning the FAO goes on to state that the FAO has requested more information on the calculation of future net income. But the province has determined this information to be a cabinet record and has chosen not to release it. It turns out if you work for the financial accountability officer the government doesn't want to give you any information but they can't slip it to their friends in the media fast enough. Asked about the leak to the Toronto Star this morning the FAO said he would have to rethink releasing documents to the government 48 hours before the public even officers of the legislature Mr. Speaker can't trust these guys. Speaker will the minister commit to releasing all cabinet documents about the sale of Hydro 1 to the public or is she actually going to stand and replace and tell the public. Thank you. Mr. Speaker three important numbers here 407 they put the O in on 407 Mr. Speaker we got squat we got a donut out of that deal. We've been very open and transparent we've worked very closely with the FAO throughout this process to the extent that we can by law and furthermore Mr. Speaker we do have a prospectus we have full information as outlined for the benefit of the entire public and as a result of the quiet period we also must abide by the OSC so the members opposite wants us to break the law we will not do that we're protected interest of the public and we're going to reinvest New question member from Kitchener Waterloo Mr. Speaker my question is to the acting premier Mr. Speaker the premier has stubbornly stood by her plan to sell Hydro 1 because of today's report of the financial accountability officer on the premier's plan to sell Hydro 1 and Terrians now know that the province's finances will actually be harmed by the sale is that why the premier chose to prevent the financial accountability officer from accessing information needed to assess the province's estimate of the market value of Hydro 1 can the acting premier tell Terrians why she chose not to disclose information about her privatization plan either from the ministries of finance from energy from Mr. Ed Clark's panel or even the $7.5 million in consultant reports that the people of this province already paid for Hydro 1 belongs to the people of this province and they have a right to know what's going on Mr. Speaker the FAO makes reference to the flow of funds recognizing that the province will net a tremendous amount of appreciation in its value with the broadening of its ownership the fur tax benefits and the net proceeds will be invested dollar for dollar into the Trillium Trust the amount of the book value goes to pay off debt which I know the third party loves to increase but we are not going to bore to keep building Mr. Speaker and we must find ways to improve the benefit the net benefit as we proceed forward so the foregone revenue that the member opposite talks about doesn't recognize the re-investment value and the increased dividends that are appreciated from the young going operations of this company which we will continue to own Mr. Speaker so that will provide great benefit overall thank you Mr. Speaker the FAO is very clear this morning the net debt will eventually be higher he also said that it's a question of simple math clearly this finance minister does not get that Mr. Speaker the financial accountability officer's role is to provide independent financial analysis about the provinces finances to the people of this province this is one of the reasons why it's so important that we now have this office this government needs all the help that they can get Mr. Speaker if the acting premier has so much confidence in her plan to sell off hydro one why does she need to rely on cabinet confidentiality to shield it from the people of this province what is she hiding Mr. Speaker we've responded to this effect we do have confidentiality requirements within the cabinet as also established in the FAO act which we all agreed to we also recognize that we have a prospectus and we have to abide by the OSC in regards to what we do next so we have a quiet period but at the same time we want to maximize the net benefit on this transaction that would be harmed based on what this member is asking us to do but furthermore what we do want in the end is to maximize the revenues long term stimulate the economy improve our net benefit by reinvesting it and the FAO makes it very clear that he did not assess the net benefits or the ongoing opportunity just the existence of the company as it stands today so we know and he's admitted that this deal will have a positive effect for the province immediately and the net benefit can be had as we proceed forward and reinvesting dollar for dollar for in other assets to appreciate greater value all of Ontario Mr. Speaker Member from Brampton Springdale Thank you Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker my question is for the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services Minister of the police officers in my community of Brampton Springdale have a difficult job to do and work very hard every day to keep us safe I often hear about the interactions between police officers and my community members many of which are positive however over the last several months we have also heard from many Ontarians in communities across the province about the impact of street checks in their lives Mr. Speaker I had the opportunity to attend one of the street check consultations which was held in my community of Brampton Springdale where many people shared their lived experiences with these interactions from these stories I could appreciate just how deep the impact of street checks is not just the people of my community but people across our province so Mr. Speaker through you can the Minister please explain what he is doing to resolve this important and ongoing concern Thank you Thank you very much Speaker and I want to thank the Member for asking a very important and relevant question Speaker I would like to first thank the hundreds of people who came out to the consultations that were held across the province those who provided their feedback and submissions through the online process and most importantly Speaker the young people I got the opportunity to meet with who shared their lived experiences during this entire process Speaker I'm going to be very honest with you those were very difficult conversations and they were very emotional conversations I want to thank them for coming forward and sharing their stories with us Speaker we heard very clearly from the community that carding or street checks by definition are arbitrary as well as discriminatory and therefore cannot be improved or regulated this simply must be ended and that is why Speaker our regulations have some important features that I will present to you during the supplementary Thank you Mr. Speaker and thank you to the Minister for that answer I'm glad that the voices of my community across our province have been heard and that you are taking action to prohibit random and arbitrary stops this is an important step in ensuring a bias free policing in Ontario in helping to build trust between our police officers and the communities that they serve I know that police officers in my community will be able to continue to do the excellent work that they do keeping us safe while having clear and consistent rules to follow when engaging in public interactions but Mr. Speaker the changes that the Minister is proposing and the draft regulation are considerable and Ontarians need to have confidence that the officers will have the necessary skills to adhere to them Ontarians also need to know whether this training has been effective in removing bias from policing so through you Mr. Speaker can the Minister please explain the training that the officers will undergo and what will be done to study the outcomes Thank you Minister Thank you Speaker and we had the opportunity to of course work with our policing partners and community human rights Speaker there's three key parts to this regulation number one that there is an express prohibition on random and arbitrary collection of personal information by the police Speaker we're also introducing new rules to protect civil liberties during voluntary public police and public interactions where there is a valid policing reason such as informing individuals that they are not legally required to provide their information to the police officer and Speaker as the member mentioned we're also introducing new training data management reporting and other requirements to strengthen accountability and public confidence Speaker we're asking the Ontario Police College to develop this new and mandatory training we'll also be creating a panel of experts who are made up of police human rights experts, race relations who will work with the Ontario Police College in developing those training and we're also launching a multi-year study to look into the effectiveness Thank you a new question from the member Good morning Speaker my question is for the Minister of Finance the financial accountability officer confirmed today that the hydro on fire sale is a terrible deal for Ontario Stephen Leclerc told us quote you will have immediate gains but a loss of revenue over the long term he was very clear quote the province would realize a permanent deterioration in budget balance as a result of the transaction further he said quote the province would experience an ongoing negative impact on budget balance from foregone net income and payments in lieu of taxes from Hydro One Speaker it cannot be any clearer than this Minister the jury's in will you advise the Premier to stop this rock headed fire sale to the chair please wow this is great the member opposite comes from the party that was proposing to sell 100% of this company with a reckless plan as I mentioned before and they had the history of doing so in fact they're finished please furthermore they actually filled in holes on infrastructure projects that would have been great benefit for society in our community today we will not be wrong headed and we are not going to put our heads in that sand I don't tend to shout over people that are shouting but I will get attention and I'll ask the member from Simcoe Gray to come to order finish please the FAO validates our approach in a stage and careful way to ensure that we protect the interests of the parties of concern the member from Prince Edward Hastings the FAO makes it clear we are reducing debt we are paying down debt and we are retaining a substantive amount for reinvestment to produce new assets the FAO didn't go on to the issues around what those assets may be he didn't talk about the fact that foregone revenue will be replaced with new investments, new revenue stronger dividends, a stronger company that benefits everybody well thank you Speaker to the minister that report that minister read but Stephen Leclerc told us this will create quote permanent deterioration to the budget this is strictly a financing decision nothing to do with infrastructure so now their plan is clear the actual proceeds from this Hydro One sale are very little but it's just enough to make their books look good for a couple of years bringing us to the next election then it all goes downhill for Ontario from there Speaker the minister and the premier have been exposed yet again so I ask will you put an end to this charade and stop the fire sale thank you Mr. Finance Mr. Speaker we are going to build and we're not going to keep boring to build we're going to ensure that we reinvest assets that we own and we can do better than what Hydro One is doing right now and that's exactly why we're taking a very careful stage approach to ensure greater value for that operation and reinvest dollar for dollar into our economy the FAO made it clear that he did not assess what those real assets are doing and that's exactly why we're taking a very careful stage approach to ensure greater value for that operation and reinvest dollar for dollar into our economy needs a clear that he did not assess what those re-investments would accrue to the province that stimulus that would be created and he didn't assess also the valuation of those dividends over time nor should we speculate at this time because there's a quiet period but we know because a lot of people recognize that Toronto Hydro horizon and Prime Minister koska Deputy Premier, you know that the Financial Accountability Officer works for this House. You know that the Financial Accountability Officer tables his report here in the Legislature why because he works for us the members. Imagine the surprise of many this morning when they wake up to find out in the paper that his entire content of his report has been leaked to the paper. So it begs the question because we know the Financial Accountability Officer said he didn't leak the information. He said so at the press conference this morning. So who is it in your government that leaked that information to the paper? Will you come clean and tell us who that is? Thank you. Thank you. Minister of Finance. Mr. Speaker, we're very concerned about that report having been leaked as well. I can assure this member, I can assure everyone the minister of energy, the minister of finance or offices did not leak the report. We did not walk the halls of Queens Park yesterday. We are very sensitive to that secrecy. We respect the FAO. We respect his position. We want to ensure that we continue to operate in an appropriate manner and we want to ensure that that doesn't happen again, Mr. Speaker, because that is confidential information which we respect in this House. Thank you. Supplementary? Somehow I think most of the people of this province would tend to trust the Financial Accountability Officer when it comes to that he didn't leak the report. So somebody in your government leaked that report because they're the only people that got the copy. So I'm going to say again, you're denying that you're the guys who did it. If it wasn't the FAO, the only person that could have been is somebody within the Ministry of Energy or somebody within your own ministry. So will you come clean and find out who that person is and let us know who leaked that report out to the public? Mr. Speaker, the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Energy did not leak the report. We want to make certain that those practices are speed protected and I have no interest in investigating. That's the third time. The member from Hamilton, East Stony Creek, come to order. Second time. Finish, please. And I have no interest in investigating the media on this as well. The member opposite is making accusations. I swine offensive because that is not the practice of this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Transportation. Mr. Speaker, as the member for Halton and as a daily commuter, I know well just how important transit and transportation are to those living in my community. In fact, I often hear from my friends, neighbours and local residents about the impact their community has on their lives. My constituents want accessible and reliable transit at convenient times. They want to get to work quicker in the mornings and they want to get home faster at night so they can spend more time with their friends and families. This is good for families. This is also good for our economy. Mr. Speaker, with this in mind, can the Minister please tell members of this House how our government is investing in transit and transportation in Halton and elsewhere to make the commute easier for Halton residents? Thank you. Minister of Transportation. Thanks very much, Speaker. I want to begin by thanking the member from Halton for her strong representation for her community. Of course, Mr. Speaker, this government continues to make key investments in transit and transportation infrastructure in Halton. With this 2004 Speaker, we have committed over $5 million through the Gas Tax Fund to the town of Milton to help improve and expand its transit services. And as part of Budget 2015, our government announced an investment of $13.5 billion to increase transit ridership and reduce travel times across the GO network. And this Speaker would include service every 15 minutes or better during the morning and afternoon peak periods along the Milton Corridor. On top of these investments, Speaker, we have committed over $540 million in Halton region to improve and expand local highways like the 401. Speaker, we know the importance of investing in transit and transportation infrastructure, and we will continue to make sure that these investments count for the people of Halton. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I want to thank the Minister for his response. I am pleased to hear about the investments our government is making for those living in my community and our province. These investments will significantly improve the daily lives of commuters and riders and their families. Over the summer, I was lucky to have a number of opportunities to speak with my constituents about the issues that matter to them. I heard about the need for increased GO service for those travelling from Halton to Toronto. People want more train trips, more bus trips and more comprehensive service. I also heard about the need for more parking for commuters using GO transit. As a commuter myself, I know firsthand just how important this issue is. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister please tell members of this House how we can address some of the challenges those in my community are currently facing? Thank you, Minister. Thanks very much, Speaker. Again, I thank the member for her question. We understand the challenges that those in Halton are facing, whether it be the need for increased GO service or for additional parking. Speaker, we have identified the potential for an additional 600 to 800 spaces at the Milton GO station, and we're currently undertaking feasibility studies to determine how these might be accommodated. These are concrete steps, Speaker, and I also certainly look forward to being in Milton later this evening with the member from that community at a town hall meeting, Speaker. This will give me the opportunity to hear from residents about the concerns they have on a wide variety of transportation issues, Speaker. But more than anything else, Speaker, I am extremely proud to serve alongside this member and all members on this side of the House, because we understand the importance of building the province up, Speaker, and the members opposite from both opposition parties could take a page out of our book when it comes to making hard decisions to invest in building this province up. Thanks very much, Speaker. The question is for the acting Premier. All along this government has been spinning a tail that the sale of Hydro One would bring in $9 billion of new money. Today's report from the financial accountability officer puts a stop to that government spin. Mr. Leclerc confirmed that $2.2 billion of that $9 billion figure is not new money. Mr. Speaker, how can the government be so short-sighted? At best, they're going to get a temporary boost of $1 to $2 billion, but they're losing an asset that produces $700 million a year in revenue for years going on. Mr. Speaker, will the acting Premier finally admit that they have not been giving the people of Ontario the straight goods on this bad fire sale? Thank you. Deputy Premier? Well, Speaker, in fact, the financial accountability officer today affirms our valuation of Hydro One, Speaker. We are on track to realizing our $9 billion target through the broadening of ownership of Hydro One. But, Speaker, I really think it's important that we look at what the lessons we learned from the mistakes you made when you were in government, Speaker, particularly with regard to the 407 lease. The government of the day did not implement any regulations for price setting, for example. In fact, Hydro One does not set its own rates. It will continue to be set by the Independent Ontario Energy Board. And we will introduce legislation to strengthen the regulatory oversight authority of the Ontario Energy Board to protect rate payers. Speaker, the province does not receive any from the 407 lease. In contrast, Hydro One, Speaker, the province does continue to receive revenue from Hydro One. Thank you. Supplementary? Mr. Speaker, back to the acting Premier. Dodge, deflect, deny, you know, how many governments in the past can you blame? Are you going to go back to Mitch Hepburn and John Roberts? Can we just try to stick to this decade? This government has known all along that the most important was limited new money on the fire sale of Hydro One. When you deduct the $5 billion that this government committed to putting towards hydro debt, it only leaves $1.4 billion in new money. It makes no sense to sell an asset that will only net $1.4 billion while you lose an asset that brings in $700 million each and every year. Mr. Speaker, will the acting Premier stop this madness and put an immediate stop to the sale of Hydro One? If there's ever a day to stop, there's ever a day to pause and recognize given the facts this is not in the best interest of Ontario, do the right thing.  Give me a reason to throw them out. Deputy Premier. Mr. Finance. Mr. Speaker, we talk about transparency. We recognize and remember that when this government came into power, there was a $5.6 billion hidden deficit that they hid from accountability. We are going to ensure that that never happens again. We were closely with the Financial Accountability Officer. Mr. Speaker, as we put forward legislation to protect the interests of the public by being more open. Member from Leeds, Grenville, second time. So we've taken those steps. In fact, we brought forward the Financial Accountability Officer to provide information prior to these assessments. And one thing that's critically important that the opposition never talks about. And that's the fact that we are going to retain 85% ownership of this company after the first launch. We'll assess effectively what that means going forward. Thank you. New question? Member from Oslo? Thank you, Speaker. Speaker, my question is to the Acting Premier. This morning's FAO report shows that the sale off of Hydro One is a bad deal for Ontario businesses. But this Liberal government continues to ignore that. In fact, Speaker, if they were listening, they would have heard that Ontario businesses cite soaring electricity costs as the number one factor hurting business competitiveness. This government sell-off won't even ensure relief from the debt retirement charge for these businesses. And on top of that, businesses are going to lose the Ontario Clean Energy benefit. Will the Acting Premier finally listen to the people of this province and stop the sale of Hydro One? Thank you, Deputy Premier. Well, Speaker, you know, there's a myth that the third party is trying to perpetuate across this province. And that myth is that Hydro One sets its own rates. In fact, the truth is Hydro One does not and will not set its own rates. So anyone who's drawing the link between the broadening of the ownership of Hydro One and increased rates is simply trying to create... I'm being careful, Speaker, in the choice of my words. They are creating a myth that actually is false. The OEB sets the rates for utilities. The OEB sets the rates now. The OEB will set the rates in the future. And as Hydro One becomes a stronger, better company, Speaker, that will actually reduce the upward pressure on rates. Thank you. Stop the electric. Thank you, Speaker. We already know that because of the rising cost of electricity, nearly 40% of Ontario businesses will delay or cancel investment in the province. This morning's report confirms that businesses will continue to face increasing expenses because of this government's reckless and short-sighted decision to sell off Hydro One. Business competitiveness is hurting in this province. So will the Acting Premier finally do something about this and stop the sale of Hydro One? Thank you. So, Speaker, I think that anyone who does business in this province will tell us that investment in infrastructure is one of the most important things we can do to improve our productivity, Speaker. And what this does, Speaker, what the revenue from Hydro One will allow us to do is build the infrastructure that is desperately needed. There is a real cost to not investing in the infrastructure. As I said earlier, for every $100 million invested in public infrastructure, there's an increase in real GDP of $114 million. So, Speaker, we're making investments. We're taking some assets, putting them into other assets that will yield an important return on investment fiscally and also significantly improve the quality of life of people who are asking for improvements in our infrastructure. Thank you. New question to the member of Mrs. Saundra Branson. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Labor. Last year, students from across Ontario participated in the Ministry of Labor's It Is Your Job video contest. In fact, Brené Noel and Martin Checker, two students from St. Francis Xavier Catholic Secondary School in my riding, won first prize for their video on workplace safety. They worked hard and dedicated their time to plan, film, and direct their video and learned a great deal about workplace safety. Conquests like this one are a great way to engage our students and empower them to learn about workplace hazards and safety. This year, I hope that even more students participate in this contest. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister provide more information so that students can start preparing for this year's contest? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Speaker, and thank you to the member for that very important question about engaging young people in health and safety. I was able to visit St. Francis last year, personally congratulate Brené and Martin, and I want to congratulate all the winners from last year and all those students that took time to create the videos. I would also like to mention that our second place winner, who came from Trenton High School, and the member from Northumberland-Winkey West Riding, went on to win first place in the All-Canada National Contest. Now, you can still see these video speakers. You can still see them on the website at the Ministry of Labor. I'd ask all members of the House, they're really well done, really impressed by the quality of the video speaker, the knowledge, the awareness that students really demonstrate about workplace safety. So I'm happy to announce today that the Students' Video Contest is taking place all over again this year. I'd ask all members of this House to encourage students in their own writing to participate, Speaker. Thank you. Thank you, Minister. I'm happy to hear that the Ministry of Labor continues to emphasize the importance of our students learning about workplace health and safety. Young workers need to know that they are protected against workplace health and safety hazard now and even after school. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Ministry of Labor is always looking to promote workplace health and safety. How is this Ministry working with people after they leave school to ensure that they understand health and safety in workplace? Thank you, Speaker, and thank you. Thanks again to the member for that great question. I'd ask all members of the House to assist me in getting the message out to young people because, Speaker, we must ensure that Ontarians, including our young workers, know that they've got rights to protect them against workplace health and safety hazards. It's an important part of our job, Minister of Labor. Last July, we made basic health and safety awareness training mandatory in this province for all workers and for all supervisors. Last night, Speaker, I was really proud to attend the fifth annual Safest Employer Awards Gala in Toronto. It recognizes those companies from right across Canada that have outstanding accomplishments in promoting the health and safety of our workers. I really want to say, if you start with the young people, you end up with results like this, Speaker. I was happy to see so many Ontario workplaces, such as the Sewer Area Hospital, the resident in by Marriott Downtown London. They took home Gold Awards last night, Speaker, in safety. We can all learn at a young age, continue it on, we get health and safety results that all Ontarians can be proud of. Thank you. The question is the number from Swan Hill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education. Former Liberal Finance Minister Greg Sorbara appeared on the agenda with Steve Paken this week. When asked about the millions of dollars this government promised to the teacher unions, he said, and I quote, the way it was done, it doesn't feel good. It doesn't look good. And there is a better way of doing it. Mr. Sorbara suggested that a better way would be to say, quote, let's put our expenses before an independent third party, and that independent third party will come up with a number and it will be transparent, open. Mr. Speaker, is the Minister prepared to take her former colleagues advice and designate a third party to review this apparent misappropriation of education tax dollars? Yeah. Yeah, great. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I've heard this a couple of times and I'm just gonna make comment on it. The use of some words could imply something different and I would caution the member to make sure she stays on the other side of the withdrawal issue. Minister of Education. First off, I think it's important to understand that we have said repeatedly that because negotiations are ongoing, that we will not discuss the details of contracts. And in fact, the mediator has actually imposed a blackout on the discussions that are going on this week. And the point that, the reason I mentioned this is because we have always said that we would be quite happy to explain the net zero construct in the collective agreements once we have finished the negotiations. The payments in question are part of the net zero construct and I remain here. He's never from Renford, second time. Committed to. Answer? However, with respect to accountability, as both the Premier and I said yesterday, the money has not. Supplementary. To spin, this is a new one and we've been hearing it about the OPP investigations where we're often being told it's ongoing investigation so we can't comment. Well, now we're hearing it's ongoing negotiations, they can't comment. We know, Mr. Speaker, that net zero means the money came from somewhere and that money is coming from the classrooms. The public works long hours, Mr. Speaker, to make the money they contribute to government revenue. They deserve assurances that their education tax dollars go to direct education costs. They expect teacher union dues to cover the cost of negotiations as much as possible and should the education ministry need to cover any costs, that receipts will be submitted. Former Finance Minister Sabara seems to agree when he says, and I quote, put it in front of a third party. Get the receipts in there so that one can report fully on what happened. Mr. Speaker, is the minister going to show us the receipt for all expenses not already covered by the ministry? Thank you, Mr. President. The Premier said yesterday, as I said yesterday, the money has not flowed. There will be an accountability process, as I explained yesterday. There will be a schedule of allowable, allowable expenditure areas and that we will be verifying that. So, in fact, we are going to go through an accountability and verification process. But I repeat, this was part of net-zero. And we have already said repeatedly that as part of that net-zero construct, we actually do have offsets in terms of early discount retirement, perjury payouts, reductions in sick leave usage, more efficient delivery of professional development.  Thank you. Send the member for message. Thank you very much, Speaker. With today's shocking revelations that, through the report, through the FAO, that the fire sale of Hydro-1, Speaker, to the acting Premier, thank you very much. Thank you. With today's shocking revelation through the report from the FAO, that the fire sale of Hydro-1 will only net $1.4 billion for government coffers, for infrastructure planning going forward. Will you do the right thing? Will you listen to the report of the FAO? And will you reverse the decision to sell Hydro-1? Thank you. Deputy Premier. Well, I guess my question to the member opposite is will you read the report of the FAO? Because he actually says that we're on track to achieve the $9 billion in revenue, Speaker. So I know there is a narrative that they are trying to drive, and I think it's really important that the public in Ontario understands that this is a decision that allows us to build an important infrastructure across this province, Speaker, and the FAO did his job, did a report, but it's incumbent upon every member of this legislature to actually understand what he said and not miscontrue the findings of the FAO. Thank you. Point of order, member from Nicobill. It gives me great pleasure to introduce my sister, Daniella Gelina, and her husband, John Hype, who just made it. One moment, please. It's the last day for somebody that has been sitting in here for a long time. Richard Brennan from The Star is leaving. So I think maybe we should say goodbye. Being from Brantford, I would hope I would get one good line out of the guy out of these years. The Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To point of order, we're very pleased today that the page captain, Sebastian Ligertat, is from Peterborough, and that the members of his gallery joined by his grandfather, Dr. James Van Lee Ewen, his grandmother, Irene Van Lee Ewen, and his aunt, Annette Van Lee Ewen. We certainly welcome them to Queen's Park today. Mr. Speaker, I missed it earlier, and I just want to say that the mother of Cathy Morside, or Cathy Morside's, the page here, her grandmother is in the gallery today. We'd like to welcome Gerta Steffen here today. There are being no deferred votes. This house stands recessed until 1 p.m. this afternoon.


Hi all and welcome to this video for evaluating biogas production in eCAM. In this video, I am in the treatment stage of sanitation and I will show you all how to evaluate biogas production and within that the fates of biogas and then finally how to adjust the rest of the assessment for the fact that you are now digesting sludge and also adjusting for produced electricity. Just to recap or to show you all, I am using the same wastewater treatment facility that I used in the other sanitation videos. I have created a copy and in this copy I will now enter sludge digestion that produces biogas. I start this process by toggling yes for producing biogas from anaerobic digestion. Here like many other places in the sanitation treatment section, there are some estimates I can use. The biogas volume produced, that might be something that you really know for your facility so make sure to check that but there is this estimation. Then you have the various fates of biogas. Here they should all add up to be 100 but you can adjust for the utility that you have. In this case I am going to put 98% for biogas valorized as heat and or electricity and then have the 2% that is being leaked to the atmosphere because my system is unlikely to be perfect. Then you have the percentage of methane in the biogas. This is something you might know for measurements of your methane or you can use the default value of 50%. The fuel type, if your digester is using fuel then you can select a fuel type and enter the amount of liters per your assessment period. In this case I will skip that since I am working with a theoretical anaerobic digester. Then also this energy efficiency for biogas valorization. The default value is 43%. If you know something about your process of course you can change that. Then ECAM even gives you this estimate for energy produced. This is something that if you are working in a real utility you will definitely know but in this case since I am working in a hypothetical utility and seeing what would happen if I were digesting biogas then I am using this default value. Now we can already see in our output section that there are some new outputs for example moles of biogas produced, usage of biogas, energy production for wastewater and also these GHG emissions avoided in wastewater treatment. The other thing to note about adding biogas production to your assessment is that this then means that you are digesting sludge. Since this assessment was already made and was not considering digested sludge we have to go through and check and make sure that we can adjust our assessment to digested sludge. So there is just one place in the top section where this is relevant that is in the VOD5 removed a sludge. Here you can see that there is this second option with anaerobic sludge digested so I am going to select that. Then if you are evaluating your sludge storage and fate there are also multiple options for what kind of sludge it is. In this case we are going to change it all over to digested because it is being digested before it enters the disposal phase. There we go so now we have adjusted the rest of the assessment to fit the digested sludge. The other thing that you can adjust for is that now this facility is producing electricity and in this case the facility is producing more electricity than it needs. So one option is to assume that the facility is using the electricity that it produces. This is not automatic in ECAM so you do have to go back then to the first data entry section and then change the amount of energy consumed from grid. In this case I am going to go all the way down to zero because we are producing more electricity than we are using. Then the results shift again to reflect that. Great so now we have included biogas into our assessment. I hope that this was helpful for you all and happy assessing.


Welcome to Adventures in Small Business. This is a collaboration of the Small Business Administration, Hawaii District Office and its partners, where we showcase the stories of local entrepreneurs in small businesses. My name is Victoria. I will be talking to our guest, Jason Kalani, who is an owner of two businesses here, Kapolei Karaoke and Kavailoa Tavern. Hello, Jason. Welcome to our show. Thank you. Thank you for being here. So before we jump into business questions, can you just please tell us a little bit about yourself? Sure. So I was born and raised in Oahuwa. My family's from North Shore. I went to high school in Lahuwa. I went to college at the University of Hawaii. I got a degree in political science. I have a master's in business. I've also served in the military. I was enlisted for about four years, went to officer candidate school. I got my commission as a field artillery officer deployed. I've served as a platoon leader, battery commander, operations officer, executive officer, brigade fire support officer. So I've done all the echelons and currently own two businesses, like you said, and I'm still in the military. I'm in the army reserves at this time. So still in military and two businesses, how do you manage that? I have no life. Yeah, it's very difficult. I don't have a lot of personal time to do things, but it's definitely rewarding. It's rewarding. I can kind of make my own schedule and it's exciting to see people consume my product and they definitely like it. So it's kind of nice. It's rewarding. It is, for sure, yeah. So you've been in military for how many years? For about 20 years now, since 1996. So you feel like skills and experience in military helped you somehow in business? Yeah, for sure. I think that the military, you learn a lot of intangible things that you learn from the military. You learn about resilience. And I've seen a lot of service members, when they go into small businesses, they have resilience. So if there's an obstacle, they're not going to quit, they're going to go and fight through that obstacle, right?  I quit. I'm too tired. Or if there's barbed wire, you can't just say, I'm not going to go through that, sir. So it's the same with a small business. It's all obstacles. And I think that the military teaches you to have resilience, to be innovative, and just to fight through some of the tough times. Military does give you a lot of tools that you could use, especially for planning. One of the things that we have in the military is called troop leading procedures. So it's like a seven-step process of things you've got to do before an operation. You can use that same checklist for your business, which I do all the time. Military also has a tool called the one-third, two-third rule. Have you heard of it? No? Basically, all it is is just that you spend one-third of your time planning, two-thirds doing operations, right? So you don't want to spend too much time planning. On the other hand, you do want to do some planning. You want to give yourself enough time to actually execute. And it's the same thing with a small business. If you spend too much time planning there, you don't have time to do anything, right?  It's in the operation. So, yes, it's definitely helped me. So military helped you to start your businesses, right? Yes, absolutely. So what do you think? What's harder, military or business? I would say business is harder, yeah. With the military, you can easily just kind of go back to your commander or you say, I need more money. I need to have, I need to get this thing fixed, there's a work order for it. For a small business, you have to generate your own revenue, right? You can't go and submit a request to the government and say, give me money because you're not going to do it. If something is broken, you have to fix it. You've got to do all the, like for me in the military as a commander, I actually had a S1 shop that was in charge of personnel and paperwork and things like that. So they would do all my paperwork. Now I do all my paperwork myself. I've got to do all the documentation myself. I've got to fix everything myself. If something is not funded, I have to find the money for it to pay for it. So I would say, yeah, small business is way harder than the military, for sure. Which is interesting because a lot of people believe that once they start a business, they will have so much free time and it will be so much easier, right? But you think it's not true.  As an entrepreneur, it's like I'm up at 7 o'clock and I'm just like picking up deliveries, I'm working on the website, doing SEO content management with the website, emails, dealing with construction, fixing things. I still got to cook at one of the restaurants, I have to go and cover down on maybe someone's shift and it doesn't stop till 10 o'clock and I wake up and do it all over again. So there's less time in a small business than you would in the military. So how do you manage your time? So many things to do on a day. Do you have some kind of software, time management software, anyone's helping you? I try to, well, I have a really good staff, right? So my staff will remind me of stuff I have to do because I definitely forget. So I'll tell my, the important stuff, my staff will call me up and say, don't forget to put this order in, don't forget to fix this thing. But for the most part, I just try to do, I mean, I try to manage it. So like every day, like my, my rhythm is I try to, like Mondays, I try to work on deliveries, do all the orders I have to do. Maybe Tuesdays, I might do content management on our website, on our, you know, do like Google searches, Yelp searches. But yeah, it's difficult because you're putting up fires a lot too, you know. Constantly, there's something that happens in the restaurant or the bar that I have to fix. So it's pretty disorganized, I guess. It can be disorganized for sure. It can be, right? So let's go back to your businesses. So can you tell us a little bit more about your business concept? When did you start it? Okay. How did you start it? Well, I started Kapolei Karaoke back in 2015. I kind of knew I wanted to transition from active duty to being a business owner. And I was driving down South Road, going towards Kamakana Lee. And I saw the amount of cars that I realized, wow, there's a lot of people that I can market a product to. And Karaoke just seemed like the easiest thing to do. That's something that I like doing, that local people love doing, and there's nothing in the area. So I think that day I went home, called the broker up, and said, I want to do, I want you to find a property for me. So they found the property, I got the price, and based on that, I had the business plan. So that was like November 2015. And we signed a lease like mid-November. I brought in a contractor to build everything out while I was building the website, while I was building the concept up. I was doing all the legal things and stuff like that. And then, again, VBock helped us out with that too. Opened the doors in January 1st. So initially, we started off with four rooms, four Karaoke rooms. It was a bring your own alcohol. Eventually, we added another room. So we had five rooms. Then we added another room, the space next to us. They went out of business, so we took over their lease. And then we expanded, within a year, we expanded to having six rooms. The smallest room fits like four people. The biggest one probably fits about like 60 people. And then we got our liquor license this year. So now we do like bottle service, so alcohol in the rooms as well. And then after I got the liquor license, I kind of saw that, OK, well, I can probably do another business. Because the Coppola Karaoke was profitable. So I was like, I want to challenge myself. So I heard there was a property for lease over in Haleva. It used to be a bar before. So I got the numbers, the same thing. I think I opened the place up in a month. We got the concept down, got the team together. And within a month, we had the doors open there as well. We've been operational for that other place for about six months. It's a restaurant. We do mostly Hawaiian food, smoke meats, fish, full bar. And we try to perpetuate Hawaiian culture through music, through dance. But yeah, it was like a pretty fast process, actually. Yeah, it does seem like it was really fast. So we have a lot of clients coming in who are dreaming of starting a business, planning, but never actually starting a business. So what made you react so fast? And get into the business, jump into the business so fast. I'm a very compulsive person. I guess I just believe that if you have an idea, you have to do something, right? You can't just have an idea and just talk about it. I'm just a man of action. That's basically it. If you have an idea, you have to do something within the first five minutes of having that idea or else you're not going to do it. So when I had the idea for Kapolei Karaoke, like when it came into my mind, immediately I called up the broker. Within five minutes, I called the broker up. It was like, find me a piece of property. It was the same thing with Quilo, a tavern. It was like, idea popped in my mind. I was like, OK, put the pencil to paper, call to the broker, let's make this happen. So you just have to be a person of action, I guess. And I don't really know why, but I guess it's just the way I've always been. That's great because, as I mentioned, a lot of people just get stuck in that planning phase and just hesitate too much. And sometimes it's really hard to move from there. Yeah, they're focused on the small details. And I think the details are important, but you want to look at the big picture, right? I've always been a big picture, strategic thinker. But yeah, I've seen it, people, my partners, I mean, they're kind of, I love the guys, but they get stuck in the small details. Like, well, we can't open up yet because we don't have this particular beer brand yet. It doesn't matter. Just do it. You have to take action, right? But I get business plans from friends all the time, and they'll keep working on the business plan and business plan and business plan, but they never actually do anything. But that's what separates us, I guess. That's what separates dreamers from doers, right? Exactly, yeah. So what about your business planning process? Did you have a business plan or you just actually decided to jump in? No, I had a, well, I had a business, it was a general business plan, right? So I'm not, again, if you can't tell, I don't believe that you should spend too much time planning, but you definitely had a plan. So I had a business plan. To me, the most important thing is, how much is it gonna cost for the space? I see a lot of people that have a business plan that they don't answer the first question, which is, how much does that space cost? They have a plan, but it's like, okay, well, how do you know how much your product costs, right? So you have to know how much that space is, how much at least is your fixed cost, how much is your fixed cost gonna be? And the second thing is, what's your competition like? And I have those, once I get those two general ideas together, then I can kind of plan based off that, but I don't get two in the details of the plans, because I found that, like I said, once you open the business up, the details are gonna go out the window, and the markets are gonna dictate the details, and you're gonna find that your staff, if they're good enough, they're gonna actually fill in those details for you. You just wanna make sure that you're going in the right direction. So for Kapolei, it was like, I knew how much at least was gonna cost. I knew there was no competition in the area, and I built a plan based off that. And like I said, it took about a year for the plan to actually, I mean, it took about a year for us to come up with the product that we have now, because it was always like revising itself. But I definitely had a plan. And for Kauai Loa Tavern, same thing too, I had a plan, I kinda knew what the product was gonna be, I knew what the fixed costs were gonna be, and yeah, I just developed a plan and we just executed. What are the things that you wish you knew before you actually started the business? Well, I'll say that I didn't understand the leasing process, commercial leasing process for the first business. I remember that we did the negotiations, I found out how much it would cost per square foot, that the math, I was like, oh, I can make that in one week and it's easy. And then I got the first bill and there was this thing called CanFees on there. And I was like, it took my rent and doubled my rent, so my heart dropped. So I wish I had known at the beginning, it doesn't matter now, but I wish I had known at the beginning the leasing process, to have a lawyer go through your lease and explain those things to you. So you have that plan, so you can account for those costs, right? And the other thing too is just human resources. I wish I had known, could I definitely wasted a lot of time with C-team players, hiring people that wasn't right for the brand. And you have to kind of trust your instincts with people, especially in the service industry. Obviously, if they're flying an airplane, you want them to have experience, right? But in the service industry, you just wanna have that connection. You have to be emotionally intelligent. And unfortunately, I tried to hire people that had a lot of experience, but a very poor attitude. And as a result, we definitely lost a lot of money based off that. The military teaches you that you have to be mentors to soldiers, you've gotta coach them, train them, because you can't fire a soldier, right? You're in combat, you have to use that soldier. And I tried to use those same principles for my business, and I found that, when you try to do that in the civilian world, in a small business, you're just wasting money. And, but yeah, I wish I'd known how to hire people better, I guess, at the beginning of the process. So what advice do you have right now for people who are looking for staff to hire for their small businesses? I would say, trust your instincts. You're gonna know, yeah, trust your instincts. There's a lot of people in the service industry that say, well, I have 10 years of experience bartending. But how hard is bartending, right? It's like, you're taking drink A and drink B, and you pour it together, and okay, here's your drink, right? You wanna find people that have a really good attitude that can project your brand, not people that are experienced in bartending or serving. You'll know that. I think you'll know that within the first five minutes of meeting somebody. You can meet them, talk to them. If you like them, then you know, okay, the customers are gonna like them. And that's important. You can train them to do everything else, right? So I would say, definitely trust your instincts when you're hiring people. And if they're not performing, there's a saying that I go by, right? If you can't change people, but if you can't change people, then change people. Does that make sense? So basically like, try to change them for your brand. But if they can't change for your brand, then change them out and find the right person. So I would say, yeah, my advice is don't rely on people's resume too much. Just go off that instinct feeling. Go off that connection you have with the potential employee. Go with your gut feeling. Go with your gut feeling, yeah, absolutely. It's like, yeah, and I guess for me, when I first started, I felt like, well, I should go off their resume. This person, they've had all these years bartending or serving or cooking and I don't have any experience. But I had a feeling in my gut that this person's, we don't have that connection. And sure enough, when they started the customer interaction, it diminished or ran. And then I kept them around too long when I should have gotten rid of them a lot faster. And as a result, we definitely lost some money off in the beginning. But now I know, it's a lesson learned. So hopefully other people can learn from my mistakes. Hopefully. Thank you for sharing. We're taking a little break and see you in a minute. This is Think Tech Hawaii, Raising Public Awareness. When I was growing up, I was among the one in six American kids who struggle with hunger and hungry mornings make tired days. Grumpy days. That kind of days. But with the power of breakfast, the kids in your neighborhood can think big and be more. When we're not hungry for breakfast, we're hungry for more. More ideas. More dreams.  When kids aren't hungry for breakfast, they can be hungry for more.  Aloha and mabuhay. My name is Amy Ortega Anderson, inviting you to join us every Tuesday here on Pinoy Power Hawaii. With Think Tech Hawaii, we come to your home at 12 noon every Tuesday. We invite you to listen, watch. For our mission of empowerment, we aim to enrich, enlighten, educate, entertain and we hope to empower. Again, maraming, salamat po, mabuhay and aloha. Welcome back to Adventures in Small Business. Today I'm talking to Jason Kalani, owner of two businesses here in Hawaii. So Jason, we talked a lot about your first business, Capolei, Karaoke, what about your second business? Can you tell us more about it? Yeah, again, I found out that the space was available. Got into the broker, ran the numbers, I was like, okay, we can make this thing work out. But I had to develop a brand for us, right? So right about that time, my grandmother passed away. So we looked at her pictures and we kind of saw a lot of the old pictures from Kualoa Camp, which is where she's from, and my dad's from there. When my mom first came to America, my dad brought her there, so she had a lot of memories of that area too, right? So I decided to build a brand based off preserving the heritage of Kualoa Camp. Haliva is very tourist-oriented now, not a lot of place for locals. I knew that, I knew that locals were going to Milani if they wanna eat dinner, if they wanna have a beer, or they go to Milani or Waihou, but they stay out of Haliva because there's no place for locals to go to because the prices are all for, the prices in the food are for tourists, right? A lot of pizzas, a lot of hamburgers, a lot of Thai food now there, so based off that, I knew there was a void for local culture, local food, so yeah, we developed a menu based off of some of the recipes that my family had, and we brought in Hawaiian bands, Hawaiian music, just did everything we could to perpetuate the Hawaiian culture, and I think now it's catching on to Haliva for sure. A lot of locals are coming out to Haliva again. We try to do live music every night. We try to showcase like a different Hawaiian singer at night, on the weekends, we're starting to do live bands on the weekends, mostly Hawaiian and reggae bands, but yeah, that's what we have going on in Haliva. So Kapolei and Haliva, you have to be in both places every day? It's tough because, no, you're right, it's tough. The labor market in Haliva is hard, it's hard to find people in Haliva to work, so I find myself cooking a lot, or bartending, or serving, or whatever I have to do, but I still have to go to Kapolei, and I'm fortunate because in Kapolei, I had enough time to train the staff, but I still have to be there to see what's going on, so typical night for me is I'll probably get to the restaurant at about two o'clock, I'll start the prep work, we'll start cooking, close the kitchen down at maybe 10 o'clock, and then, this is like a Friday night, now I'll have to drive from Haliva to Kapolei at about 10 o'clock just to make sure they're doing their job, just check out the inventory, make sure all the systems work, just making sure they're doing what they're supposed to do, and I'll probably stay there until about 12 o'clock or one o'clock, and then I'll drive back from Haliva, from Kapolei back to Haliva to check up on that spot, so I'm just going back and forth, back and forth, it's hard, if we miss the delivery, I've got to pick up all the supplies and deliver it to Kapolei and Haliva, which is a nightmare sometimes, it's very time consuming, but yeah, I wish I had opened up another business in Kapolei, closer, that would have been nicer, but yeah, it's definitely rewarding though. And it's working out so far, right? Yeah. Seems like it's successful. Yeah, it depends how you define success, but Kapolei is definitely generating a profit for sure. That's the one thing I've found, is that Kapolei, it's doing well because A, I trust in my instincts, I brought in the right people, in fact, the first guy I hired in Kapolei, he just sent me an email, I put the ad out before we even had the business up and running, he sent me an email, like, I want to work for you, I want to work in this, so I brought him in, and he had no concept of what we're doing, he was like, what's the job? I was like, I don't know what the job is, I have no idea, we'll figure it out together, but he had a really good personality, a lot of Instagram followers, and he's been very instrumental in bringing the people in. So great staff there, very excited staff, because we're not dealing with food, I don't have a lot of fixed costs, right? My fixed cost is pretty much just the overhead for electricity, insurance, and the rent, right, that's about it, and then of course I do licensing fees for the music, so labor. So I have very set fixed costs there, not a lot of variable costs, so that's why it's done really well. Great staff, easy costs. Haliva has been a little different, I tried a different approach in Haliva, I tried to hire people based off their resumes, so again, it definitely diminished the brand, and when you're dealing with food, yeah, the food is like, you have to push out a lot of volume for the food to work, you have to kind of understand how much it costs, portions is important, and I think the first chef I hired, he was a good chef, but he didn't understand the business portion of it, right? So he would buy like a $10 per pound prime rib and resell it for about $10 a plate without actually measuring the stakes. So I went back and did it around the numbers, see how much we're losing, okay, we're not making any money off the stake, right? So, but we fixed that though, it's a lot of it's because I was naive and I wasn't prepared for the restaurant industry, but it's doing really well now though, we've got that figured out, so. Yeah, so from our experience, restaurant industry is one of the riskiest, right? Yeah. So many challenges, how do you make sure that you are protected from those challenges? How do you stay ahead of the game? Oh man, I'm just, I'm doing research all the time, constantly looking at, constantly listening to podcasts about running a restaurant, I'm constantly reading the trade magazines, always looking at prices, just trying to understand the food costs, looking at the competitors, if I make something, is anybody else making it? But you're right, it's incredibly difficult and I'm still learning today as we go on. Definitely gonna reach out to the VBock and check in with you guys to see if I can find a mentor to help me make sure I have the right prices for the food. But yeah, I think the important thing is just, you wanna make sure that you have the right portion size and that everything is accounted for. You can't just throw rice in there and say, oh, it's just free rice, right? You have to pick that into account because if you're going through like, two bags a week, that's 40 bucks, it adds up, right? So you wanna make sure that that's accounted for. But we have a handle on it now. And my advice to anybody opening a restaurant is that you wanna have a hand on all costs. You don't wanna, A, I would say, you don't have to hire a chef. A cook is good enough for most restaurants. You don't have to hire a five-star chef. And B, I would say, no, it goes in the recipes just because you have a cook. Don't think that they understand the business side of it because a lot of them don't, right? They're just gonna buy whatever they need and try to make it taste good. You wanna have your hand and the recipes know exactly what goes in there, know exactly how much everything costs. And then with that knowledge, you could actually build a profit, right? You can start controlling costs and develop your own profit. So great staff, a lot of research, education, mentoring. What else is important in running with it? Oh, okay. Math? We mentioned the law. What about financial planning, accounting? Did you have any of that experience knowledge? So I have an MBA. So with my MBA, I focused on accounting. So I know about financials, understand ratios, and yeah, I would say that math is extremely, extremely important.  I build pretty detailed planning sheets. I run ratios almost every week to see exactly where we're profitable or not profitable at. In fact, just yesterday, I built a balance sheet, a projected balance sheet, right? Where it's like, how much money's coming in per day? What's going out by day? I did that for about six months out just to make sure that we're going to be profitable. But yes, you have to have, accounting is good, but I think that you have to know how to do everything for an entrepreneur because I knew how to do accounting. Plumbing, I've never done before. I have to learn how to be a plumber. Website management, SEO, content, search engine optimization. I've had to learn how to do that as well because as you know, in today's business, for brick and mortar, you're not gonna win by just having the best looking restaurant on the street, right? It's based off of the digital landscape.  When they Google restaurants, Hollywood, you wanna be the first one to pop up, right? So you have to understand SEO management as well. Laws, city and county laws, state laws, you have to understand, yeah. It's just, there's a lot of stuff you have to learn about, cooking, bartending, serving, just psychology, just, this goes on. You have to be an expert at everything. Yeah, and we always say that you have to have a good bail team, which is banker, accountant, insurance agent, lawyer, right? Did you have all of those? Yeah, I have a great lawyer. His name is Mike Sweetman, actually, and he's actually a veteran as well. I'm gonna have him talk to you guys too. We actually won an exercise in Singapore together, me and my lawyer, about three years ago. So we're in a bus in Singapore. He was a JAG officer. I was a fire support officer and we just started talking about business. I was like, I wanna start my own business one day. He was like, oh, if you do it, you should give me a call.  So two years later, I give him a call and he helped me start the business. But yeah, we got a really good, really good law. I got a really good guy that does law from a really good lawyer that I have. The accounting, I think with QuickBooks, you can do most of the accounting yourself if you're savvy with that. But you definitely wanna have someone that's gonna help you with projections. If you don't know how to do projections, then it's very difficult to make decisions. You're kind of just flying by the seat of your pants. But all in all, I think I have a pretty good team. Great. So we are about to finish. So can we find you somewhere on social media? Where do we find you? Yeah, you can find us on my, for Kapolei Karaoke, if you're looking to rent a room for a party, you can book online at www.kapoleikaraoke.net. 24 seven bookings. Again, we have rooms that range from four people to 60 people. For Kauai Loa Tavern, if you're looking for, if you're in Haleva, you wanna have a drink. We have our pineapple soju, which is really, really popular. Try some of our smoked briskets. Our website there is www.kauailoatavern.com and we're located next to Longs in Haleva. Thank you very much, Jason. Looking forward to visit your businesses. And thank you for watching. 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