eally here to look at what are the rules of the treasurer? How long should the term of a counselor be? And some of these questions that were really more cleanup, we had a bunch of technical things we had to open the charter for and that by opening up issues that had broader social, political and deeper nerves in the community and had sort of a broader impact weren't really appropriate for the composition of that committee to take on that point in time. So the recommendation back to council from that committee was we think you should address these issues but we don't think we should do it right now in this technical charter change. That happened a couple years ago. Time has gone by and we have had a couple counselors especially, you know, bring up the fact that there are some of those issues that we need to come back and address. It's easy to let time slip by quickly. So rightfully so we're bringing back that issue now to have that conversation about it. In last week's discussion, your last meeting's discussion, the idea of the timeline came forward. Eric shared what he felt was the optimal timeline to get it accomplished and some of the reasoning behind that and certainly Eric, I'm sure you have opportunity to talk about it. The other thing that we kind of asked was for staff who really hadn't had a whole lot of warning that that was, you know, was gonna be a direct request at this point in time. Go back and look at the schedule where Eric provided to and think through if there's any other items to emerge in from a municipal perspective and Jesse provided us now with this memorandum. So I think I'll just, if you wanna summarize anything or go through any key points on the memo. Sure, so, I mean, this timeline is basically what Eric had put together with the administrative steps added in, so the public hearing the notices and the frequency and stuff like that, just so we were sure that on our side of the table we weren't missing anything to achieve the November ballot. It is feasible, so just to kind of highlight the biggest concern for us is that it would, well, two concerns. One, it is if we move forward without some of those other administrative changes, we're losing the opportunity to do that. And from my role, I think it's important to acknowledge that there are other things administratively in the charter we'd like to change too. So hopefully we can have time at some point to do that. And then two, and more importantly for the public to some extent, this schedule does delay, or it doesn't delay, but it produces the municipal ballot almost a month after the statewide ballots are available. So there's going to be a period of time where there's early voting, where people may come in and vote and we are going to need to communicate with the voters that at some point in the future we're gonna be sending them another ballot and they need to return those votes. It is possible, we can do it under our administrative procedures, but it is a little bit of a communication challenge, but it can do. Otherwise the schedule is the schedule. Okay. So I think summarizing the differences, or not the differences, but what the concerns were from Alaska around was this presents a schedule that's condensed to get this on the ballot and for a November general election, which Eric will let you explain the reasoning behind that. And then I think what I heard and took away from the last meeting is that there's unanimous philosophical support for this effort and that there's interest and will in seeing this address and seeing the issue taken on. I think the question is about this timeline and not just from a technical standpoint, but I think from a broader sense. So I think that's the conversation tonight. And Eric, Jesse and I talked one time, so Jesse. Just after you're done, sorry. No, that's it. I was gonna turn it over and see if Eric wanted to share some. I just from an operation standpoint also want to acknowledge that we have our city attorney Bob DePalma here tonight. He's actually here for the executive session, not for this item, but I did brief him that he might be asked a legal question about timeline. So he is here as your resource if you want to ask him questions at all, as well. And one thing that also came up last time was this conversation of the difference between council taking action to put something before the voters on the ballot versus community petition process and how that not only impacts the timeline but what the enforceability of the community vote is by and large in Vermont, it's not a referendum state. So votes on issues like shall we say the federal government related to the basing of an aircraft or advisory, and then council has to take that advice from the public in the form of a vote and take action on it. This is an issue where we actually believe that if the public were to file a petition on a ballot and it was successfully passed in the ballot that would actually just go right to the legislator from the public. So I want to put that context in there in terms of legal homework that was done following the last meeting. I, Eric, I think it's appropriate. You've done a lot of work. It's been a lot of time on the issue. Sure, well, I love the timeline. I really appreciate all the work that you put into setting it out. I also think that it does provide an adequate robust public input process. I'd push back and saying that this is a condensed timeline. I think it runs really similarly to timelines we've seen on other really important issues that hit the city like the Main Street Revitalization Project and the public hearings that went in advance of that bond vote. And I think the timeline that you just shared in regards to the number of years that have gone by before, since the Charter Change Commission initially reviewed some of these items a long time ago is really impactful. So I think this timeline is adequate to get this issue in front of voters to have a robust public engagement process beforehand so that the community can feel good about going to the ballot box. I'm happy to dive into and recap some of the stuff I talked about last meeting in regards to why I think it's so important to move forward with a November election. But one of, I think, the most incentivizing reasons is that this is a big decision for our community. Unfortunately, a lot of people are really impacted by this decision because of the nature of what the decision is won't have the ability to weigh in on that decision. However, I think that we owe it to the remainder of the voting community right now to ensure that this is on the ballot during a time when voter turnout will be higher, during a November general election, than pushing it to an election farther down the road where just as a result of how election turnout works, less people will likely be at the polls and have the opportunity to weigh in. So I think that there's substantial reason for that as well as just in regards to if our community makes the decision to move forward on this issue, I think moving it to a different election farther down the road would have an impact on our ability to even get it passed, which I'm sure that'll be another discussion we can have. But assuming that we were, it would delay implementation, meaning that we are extending the number of years in which valued members of our community who right now don't have a voice, still would be unable to weigh in and be a part of our community decision-making process. So I'm a firm advocate for the schedule as it's presented here in the memo and would really like to see us move forward as a body to adopt that schedule and allow the community to weigh in on this issue. So if you want to push back on condensed timeline, I want to say that I don't, the matter of years, the alternative discussion was potentially as having it on a March ballot. That was what I heard from the last meeting. It wasn't a delay of a matter of years. And for context and reference, the public voted two years ago on the charter changes. It was a charter change committee that we put together that executed their work in that December of 2016. So that's, I understand there's a political perspective as to trying to read the tea leaves as to whether it may or may not make it through a committee at a particular pace and what's gonna happen in global politics in the state political room. But the conversation that I think was had here was concerned about do we take until March to have it on the ballot or do you push to have it on November? And that was the conversation. Right, I agree with that. So I think though too, just like logistically when we were looking at timelines for the pool and how they're seasonal construction and non-constructional seasons that impact a timeline. If you shift a few months here or there that could impact years on a project, the same exists for the legislative process. So I just wanna... The legislative process doesn't end in March. No, but I think so, and I guess we can get into that discussion because there's a lot of detail there. So I think my big worry in waiting until March is that this is an issue that will take a significant amount of time to go through the legislature. It's not like other charter changes where it's a little administrative fee change or something that they'd probably approve pretty quickly on the spot. This has to be worked pretty thoroughly through committee and it will get political. I think if this is in front of them at the start of an off election year session, there is the much greater likelihood that they'll be able to work at that session if they don't get this until sometime in March as session is coming to a close, which is when things are really picking up. I think that that, I think it's a near certainty that it would of course get delayed until the 2020 session. There's no way they're gonna be able to work this by the end of the 2019 session. So I believe there's a strong likelihood it may get referred to committee put on the wall for the 2020 session and then there's a lot greater likelihood it would never come off the wall. And if it does, because the 2020 session is an election year session, things in general are about to be a lot more hyper political and that would either impact because everybody's posturing themselves in a lot of ways and there's just a lot more on their schedule to actually be able to accomplish in that period of time. I think that it would either not get the attention it needs to come off the wall and say we can't deal with that this year or it would become so political it would dramatically harm our ability to actually get it passed. So I think delaying it to extend the process which I don't think is necessary. I think we have adequate time for a really robust public process. But delaying it to increase that amount of time and move it to a march, Adam will make it very unlikely we'll actually be able to pass it. And then even if, which will be an uphill battle anyway, if we are able to pass it because they didn't take it up until the 2020 session that could mean depending on when if it was passed in 2020 through the legislature, if that was after March or with not enough time for implementation for March, we'd be looking at the first town meeting day that people most impacted by this being able to vote would be 2021. And we just went through two gigantic important community votes where already people had no ability to be a part of that process. And I, it would really bother me for us to look at a potential timeline that would put us another three years away from being the inclusive community that we pay a lot that we speak to really often. Part of that is we have processes for community input in the development of an approach and we haven't had this conversation as a community. As Seth said, we're all philosophically aligned with the importance of non-citizen voting. George eloquently said earlier in the meeting that we're out front of our community on a lot of issues. And this is a really big issue that if we get it wrong, there could be a lot of backlash that is actually not healthy and productive. And I'm not willing to let predictions about the political dynamic in Montpelier drive what I think is good process in our own community. So I think I'm reluctant to sign on to an expedited timeframe. And as Seth said, if the community get a petition and it gets on the ballot, then that's a vehicle for people to pursue this who want it to be decided in November, I think we ought to treat this with a seriousness that it sort of deserves in terms of bringing people around the table and having a conversation about what that could look like and what it means so that you build the kind of understanding and buy-in from across our community about why this is so important. And that fear that it will be perceived as sort of another big item that's being start coming out of nowhere when people don't, don't feel like there's been. And, you know, Main Street did have a pretty big public process in terms of the visioning around form-based code. And there was a lot of time spent on developing that vision. Same thing with the pool. So yes, some of the bond vote processes were expedited, but it wasn't a brand new conversation for the community. You know, Burlington, they voted on it and it failed because they didn't do, I don't think they had, they didn't have the support within the community for that change. And so my fear is if we rush to get on the ballot in November and we don't have some community dinners and created a charter committee, or we can attend to some of the other issues that need to be tended to, we're still moving forward. We're still gonna send something to Montpelier in March. And if they don't take action, that's on them, it's not on us. I do think though a charter committee discussed this previously and we just heard they decided that this was not the type of thing that was appropriate for a charter committee. And I also- For that charter committee, given the other issues that needed to be tended to? It's not what we asked them to sign up for. It was like a technical one. Yeah, I mean we pitched it to them as we want, you know, we grabbed the lawyers and George. Seriously though. But I mean that wasn't what we pitched. We said, you know, we have a bunch of technical changes we need to be made around finance and budgeting. And I think who you asked to serve on that committee really should reflect the types of changes you're looking for. So I personally would want George to sit in this position. But I think we need to have a bigger committee that was a pretty small committee that was looking at very technical issues. Having a charter change that would allow for non-citizen voting, I would think would have a different type of committee involved. I would say though, I think that this schedule does allow for a significant amount of public interaction in what- We're also talking about a housing series. You know what I mean? I just feel like when I think about the priorities and the timing, you know, I don't know. What's the harm if it, we don't get enough of a conversation and it doesn't pass in November? Can we just recycle that and do a lengthier process? It can be a pretty ugly conversation if we don't frame it well, I think. And then you've burned a lot of- I think the part of the point of that is there's something else other than just having it pass. But I think that's, hold on. There's something different than just having a majority of vote on things, right? I mean, I take no credit for this, but five years, six years ago, we were a community that was approving budgets, 53 to 47, we got 70 what percent last time around, they included an increase. That's the community buying into an overall vision and a lot of legwork and time that went into crafting those visions and the investment patterns that were done. And the pool and mainstream are good examples of multiple year conversations that took place to lead up. I think we are talking about having this conversation in a really compressed way just to get it done into March. And just because you can pass something doesn't mean that what's left behind from a community perspective and the way that the conversation took place is gonna leave behind a good environment. And that's, I think that to me is the question that we're trying to balance here. I would say that what's left behind to what you just said is that people who already feel terrible about this because they're being taxed and don't have any say in how those tax dollars are being used. So to say that this process, because you don't feel it's robust enough would make members of the community feel resentment about how it was done. There are already a lot of people in the community that are severely impacted from this that I would imagine feel a lot of resentment because it hasn't been done. I don't disagree with that, but that doesn't then necessitate that you do the policy development in the wrong way for the entire community. I don't feel like it's the wrong way. And I appreciate that, but my concern is from what the lingering effects are. And that's okay, we don't have to agree on that. But I think just saying the perspective that people are negatively impacted and we're not acting six months sooner, four months sooner, five months sooner, if there's a good argument on the other side that people feel strongly about that there's maybe a different holistic approach that takes place that leaves behind a stronger community, that that's part of our job too. It's not just political calculus and counting votes to me. That's not the way we make decisions about what we move forward and the pace in which we move it forward. It can't be, not to me. And that's my reflection in my beliefs, and that's okay, it's not the same. But, sorry, you were asking questions. Well, last time Eric spoke about this, he was, I don't know if this is confirmed, that Montpelier is also putting forth a similar motion for November. There was us doing that last F-35 thing with other communities that made a difference, having more, having other communities on board like got the information out better, your news stories about it. There's more, we didn't get what we wanted, but there's more response to it. I think that is a valuable thing to consider here. I'm also not a fan of rapidly pushing through stuff, but I think there's some value to that key piece of timing. I also don't, and I don't really know why I have a good reasoning for this, but I don't really want to put this on the ballot at the same time as the local options taxes. I feel like it's a weird combination and could drive some people to respond differently. Yeah, and I would say I think part of my concern is the overload that we've put in front of the community in terms of participation and big decisions and that any amount of time we can buffer people to process, be engaged, ask questions and be thoughtful about it, while also not coming off the tail of a couple other big, complicated asks that we clearly still have a lot of education to do around them, has merits. So that's what I think about that too. Even though there, yes, are gonna have several complicated items on their ballots in March having that opportunity to, but that's making people engage in two separate conversations at one time. There's no focus there. Like here you could do the two separately. You think we're not gonna be talking to them about things leading up to November? You think we're not gonna be out educating, having a housing series going through the process of talking about the details of these financials between now and November? Where's it gonna sit by then, so I know. The other thing I'll just say is that if Montpelier does move ahead, and there is a bill in the legislature and action is taken in March, we are not foreclosed from amending a bill that has the city of Montpelier's language. I mean, there's ways to join forces who won't have missed the deadline for if testimony has been taken on that issue for Montpelier. It's similar testimony. I can't imagine the charter change language is gonna look fundamentally different even if they're two different bills. Yeah. The content will be. I just think there's weight to having two communities pushing it at the same time. I think two months delay is not being part of that conversation. Yeah, and I would also add that those are public sessions that are open and we've commented on other communities charter changes before and had an impact on those conversations. So we took a formal stance on Burlington's right, for example, to put some restrictive rules around firearms in the charter change. So we passed by resolution and counsel a supportive measure. We said, we're not pursuing it right now ourselves, but we appreciate the fact that a community should have a right to do this and it reinforces it. So there are alternate ways that you can participate in that process. I guess what I wonder is, what is the alternate timeline to get to March that is not as conflicted? Like if we're saying that we have these large decisions right now that we've just been going through, we have conversations to have about those, it kind of just mirroring exactly what you said. Like, it's not really a different discussion than in that sense. No, it's four months, it's about time. It's also what we're going to be doing intensive work around the budget with the community around the budget. And I don't disagree, it's about having four months. It's about having four months for a conversation to play out in a more holistic way in the community. Not having a committee do the work. I think though, if it was a difference of how do we do this large thing, we need a lot of very specific details on that would feel a lot more appropriate to me for a charter change committee in a longer process. If it's a, should the community do this? Yes or no? I think that the community would be really ready after multiple public hearings and a lot of discussion between now and November and two and a half, almost three months to be able to vote and to vote confidently regardless of which way they vote. I guess I see this as a different issue and no pun intended because we're the most diverse community in the state. And in my conversations with our citizens and our non-citizens, there's urgency about this. It's like, why wait? And it's, I think of, and even as we agree philosophically, we're all behind this, I think that speaks for the community. I mean, we're, you know, we are not walking the walk. We talk the talk. You know, we want to have an inclusive, participatory community and a large part of our community can't come to the table. So now's the time, I support this and I think we'll be surprised at how much support we will enlist through the hearings for this kind of policy. Any other comments, questions, suggestions? Yeah, we can open it up to the public. Any other comments, questions, suggestions from the council? Good. Comments, questions, suggestions from the public? Mr. Cross, who was this name for? It's a very difficult situation for me. I doubt very much if there's any family in the school that's spent any more time on refugees and immigrants and new people to the school and their life alive. However, having said that and having enjoyed the fact that we are an inclusive community and having been a part of the most inclusive school dessert that there is in number one. There are two parts of this question that are extremely troublesome to me. One is I think Nicole is correct. The city council is out in front of the community. And you're going to need to get with the community soon, but frankly, you're not going to be there. Secondly, which is the more difficult part for me. Allowing non-citizens to vote and I assume that's what the topic is all about. They haven't done a very good job of explaining it. Is it really difficult to think about historically? Is a certain set of privileges and rights that come with citizenship? And voting happens to be one of them. So I would find it personally very difficult to support the charter change that allowed non-citizens to vote. On the other hand, I support regularly any number of individuals and have been to any number of citizenship at times when people are actually become citizens. Celebrations, I've been to parties to celebrate citizenship and feel strongly that anyone who lives in this community or lives in this country for that matter, with exception of one by anything, ought to desire and want to become citizens and want to be active participants. Now, when does he start a good job of bringing people into all kinds of committees, organizations, all kinds of different avenues for people to participate in the community, regardless of whether they're citizens or non-citizens. But this is an issue that you really need to make sure that you're with the community in terms of putting it on the ballot and having it fail means that it's not gonna come up again. Putting it on the ballot and having it pass means you've created another device of peace. You can't win on this one. Sorry. George. This isn't a political argument, it's political. I mean, is there something specific like from an address standpoint? Yeah, well, I just say, I mean, I think it's pretty common in public comment that you and the rest of the council respond to public comment that occurs. But we just say, George, there actually is, you mentioned the history of voting. There's a really long history of non-citizen voting in the US that occurred up until the 1920s and following World War I and a lot of anti-immigrant rhetoric that sprung up. It was wiped away. So there actually is, there's a longer period of time in the US than non-citizens were allowed to vote specifically in local elections than there's been they haven't. Yes. Sister Pat. I have a little different point of view. You know, we do talk about inclusive community and community building. And I think that the more we involve people and allow them to make decisions, the more responsible people are for supporting the community, for being involved. And these are people, we're talking about municipal business. Am I hearing that correctly, municipal voting? So I think the educational component I think is really important that people know and understand. But I think that these are people that are paying taxes and that have no input into making any of the decisions that impact their lives and impact their kids. And I think it's really important if we say that, we talk about being a centrally city and I understand the difference. But that also to me is a part of being inclusive and being supportive. And because things work that way in the past doesn't mean it can't change now. And I think it's really important to say what is best for our community right now and how do we include the most people so that we can move together as a community. And I do think it's important for people to be able to make that decision. I do think it's important that they be well prepared. And you know, I don't know how much time that takes. And you know, I think that if we wanted to do something for the rest of you could do it. But I just wanted to share that, thanks. Thank you. This man. I have a couple of different perspectives to bring to this. One is as an attorney who partly practices immigration, I appreciate that so many immigrants would like to become citizens. And often that choice isn't theirs to make. It's the choice of you guys customs and immigration who ultimately decide if a person is a high preference enough immigrant to warrant coming in under the TV program or if they are lucky enough to, as from what I have, find an American husband. So we see this in our practice all the time, individuals who come to be doctors, attorneys, nurses, teachers and then say, what is my hook? How do I get in? It doesn't seem like the US wants me and I'd like to stay here and I would if I could but either I can't afford the high filing fees or I'm not gonna get selected in the diversity lottery. And so it's, I think it's more complicated than to just say why not apply to be a citizen because as I said, the choice isn't always the particular immigrants to make. The second would be as someone who can't myself vote in elections as a non-citizen president will lose my husband and I who lived here in about one three years. We pay our taxes, we attend to the events. I sit on multiple city commissions and yet we, well, I shouldn't say we, I can't do vote on the pool or in our primary or anything like that and it would be meaningful to be able to vote on policies that might then come before my commission. And the last would be, Jesse told us in the recent planning commission meeting that going forward, this is gonna be branded as the opportunity city. And this feels like a way to attract a class of people to Winnowsky who see this as a opportunity. Conveniently today, I got a handwritten thank you card from a student at Vermont Law School who we have provided some pro bono immigration help to. He mostly just wanted to be comforted. He feels uncomfortable in the United States. He thinks about going back. He spent all this money on a legal education here. And he thinks, I don't know if I can use it here. I feel like people don't want me. And I was able to say to him that this is something the city council of Winnowsky is looking at today that there aren't people who want him and there is a reason he should stay. And I hope that the meaning to give to someone like him and to someone like me would justify engaging with the community on a as quickly as possible or to make sure that that can happen. Thank you. Luis. I'm here to address the floor for non-citizen voting and in his full collections and also for getting on the ballot in November. All of our neighbors shared interest in making Winnowsky a great place to live. But it's not just that folks who own homes, pay property taxes and send their children to Winnowsky schools don't get a voice in how those tax dollars respond to our education system. I hope that all of our neighbors who wish to gain US citizenship achieve that goal. And in the meantime, voting in municipal elections is a great way to get familiar with the responsibilities that US citizenship has to deal with. Placing this on the ballot in November is the best time to engage the community when we have that high turnout. As someone who works in electoral politics, I hear that risk of blowback of maybe moving too quickly but at the same time moving these ballot items towards less active elections like kind of meeting day or primaries is kind of what you do when you want to push something under the radar and to me that as the most risk of getting some negative feeling left over. I really feel like November is the best time for our community to move forward on this. Thank you. Thank you. Some public comments? I'll back up what she said. Thank you so sir. I'm the second one. I'm a staff member but I'm speaking as a resident of Lewesky. I think this is a really important issue to address right away. As someone who works with members of the community who are non-citizens who are active in our community or children who are old in school or homeowners who volunteer frequently in the city and are active participants, I think it's really important that those people have a say of where their tax dollars go and how their money is spent in the community that they have chosen to live in. I work frequently with high schoolers who are learning about the specifics process and about how all these things work and wouldn't it be wonderful if at the end of that they could actually vote with their peers instead of being told to wait? I think historically we've had a lot of tough conversations in this country about non-landowners, about women, about African-Americans voting and we've constantly told people to vote their turn and pause those things and keep them down the road and I think that we would be on the right side of history if we said now is the time to make this happen. Thank you. Yes ma'am. I'm speaking from that legislative perspective and how Eric laid out that timeframe and I really critical of you, the position, the separation of powers and the necessity for you all as city councilors to take the action that you see is fit and from the legislative perspective of how that fits in with the timing and that with the, what we don't know who will get elected in the legislature and the member, we do know that there is continually to be on the national politics level some tension and that here in Vermont we are really doing what we can at the state level to address and ease that tension that we're seeing particularly around anti-aggression and so at the state legislature the first year of biennium is the best time to move things forward and Seth you mentioned the Burlington City Charter and the gun restrictions and how that was a very hot topic and really was very divisive in the state house and it was at the end of the session because it was after town meeting. We needed to get pushed to the next year. It really was used as a political tool and not actually move forward. So I think if you all really are interested in the possibility of moving this forward in this coming biennium, getting it in at the beginning of the first year in the biennium is your biggest opportunity to do that and so I wanted to just bring that perspective for food for thought as you all decide what it is that's right for our community at this time. Thank you. Any other comments, concerns, suggestions? Okay, turn it back to council. You need final items from councilors? I'll just say in summary I think a lot of comments that are very reflective of the values that I think I hear from five people up here in terms of the interest in seeing this through and having every member of our community be able to participate in elections. I think quite frankly maybe I'll say the separation in perspectives here is in my mind exactly representative of the concerns that I have of exactly the way it's gonna look in the community and that actually we all agree but from a process standpoint can't agree on this timeline and that's too bad for me and I do think it's going to put community members in a place that's really challenging and is gonna put the community making a decision in a way that's gonna cause more conflict than there needed to be on the issue and subject. So I can't let it go without stating my reflection on that and I hope it passes and we'll certainly work as hard because I get the idea of the way this vote's gonna go. I sure hope it passes and we'll certainly work my heart out to ensure that it does because I think it could be a wonderful thing for the community. I just also think to the point that one commenter made about making sure we're trying to bring the entire community into these conversations moving forward that that's to me actually the benchmark of what's made us so successful and why we're pointed to as a model of a community that's growing in the same direction and is reflective of how we've gotten so much accomplished and I don't know that I think it's gonna be important for us moving forward so and I don't mean to reopen the argument but that's my personal reflection ahead of the vote. Any other comments, thoughts, recommendations, suggestions? I'd love to make a motion. Help yourself. I'd move that we adopt the proposed timeline in the memo to place a charter change ballot item on the November general election ballot regarding non-citizen voting and municipal elections. Second. Motion by Eric, second by Hal. Any further discussion? Seeing, hearing none. I am Tina. Seeing, hearing none. All those favor, please say aye. Aye. And those oppose? Motion carries. You okay with the counts? Great. Okay. With that, we have come. Sorry, for your upland. If, so my charge now is to work with legal counsel to bring you a charter change. So if you have language that you would like us to start with from a baseline, if you could provide that to me, that would be fantastic. Yeah, and I think part of it would be a talk and fire in regards to, yeah, we'll talk. Yeah. Great. Okay. So next up, we have two items on tonight's agenda that are listed in an executive session. We have an item that's related to a problem of litigation which our city is involved in and also includes a portion of a conversation related to real estate negotiations the city's engaged in to conduct either conversation in public with put the city at significant disadvantage from negotiation standpoint and also would put us, violate our attorney prior client privilege opportunities to speak with our attorney regarding a matter of litigation. Second, we also have a, and just in relation to that first item, it's connected to the TIF district which is our downtown financing district and a current lawsuit that is a public matter that you're welcome to Google and read about all you like. So that's what it's related to the issue. In addition to that, we have an employment matter. I mentioned earlier that we conducted treasure reviews. We're gonna discuss the potential section of treasurer candidates. And again, it's an employee action. We're gonna be discussing applicants for a job that again, it's a personal matter that's conducted in executive decision. In both matters, any type of action or decision by council has to be done in public and will it would be done in public by vote but tonight neither item has any item of consequence that requires a vote or action by council. And as such, we will reconvene only to adjourn and it will conclude tonight's public meeting. For the executive sessions, cumulatively we are gonna request to bring in of course, Jesse Baker's always this year we're also bringing Robert to call my attorney and Angela to the area staff calendar as well. Anybody else? Great, so I'm gonna motion to enter an executive session to address the two previously stated items. Motion by Eric, second by Christine. Any further discussion? Seeing and hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. And those opposed, motion carries. Yeah.


What's going on guys welcome back to the channel critical overload here. We're gonna be talking about scream 7 in this video here again today This is related to a recent comment that Neve Campbell just gave to a variety today She spoke to variety or variety spoke with Neve Campbell recently about a scream return and it appears She's open to it which would include of course a possibility of her appearing in scream 7 it's not meaning she will but She said and I quote under the right circumstances, that's how she would return so she's keeping the same energy She's been going over but she said I honestly don't have any idea what their plans are I know a lot has gone on around it obviously referencing the drama that's been happening with Barreira and landing She says and I'm sure they're spinning a little bit at the moment These movies mean a lot to us and they mean a lot to the fans I go to these conventions sometimes and I meet the fans and they're frantic about these films They love them these films mean a lot to them and these characters mean a lot to them So even for their sake, I would love to see it continue now This comment is already causing mixed reactions because there is a one-size-fits-all answer that everyone wants to hear from her Look as much as I would enjoy hearing her bash by glass even further This is very in line with her keeper professional type of remarks. She's very good at delivering Now right circumstances to me could mean pay me correctly obviously Proper use of Sydney Prescott, of course and the main event of this evening Spyglass no longer has their hands in this cookie jar when Neve is Addressing hoping to see continue for the sake of the fans She definitely is coming from a place of like she references having personally heard stories about what Sydney means to people and what Scream as a franchise means to people who me and you have never met I still find it amazing how the internet just convinces people That frustration within their spaces or communities online represents The majority of people and it usually doesn't sure I want spyglass to relinquish the right the rights myself I want Melissa Barrera back and I have people who heckle me for wanting her back people who heckle me for Wanting spyglass to relinquish the rights because they hate Melissa. They think spyglass is doing a phenomenal job.  Dramatically with them in their personal lives because that's not what they came to the theater for they are coming to be entertained Escape reality whatever hardship they're going through if they're going through some because not everybody who goes to the movie Obviously is going through some type of hardship and trying to escape reality in that capacity And they then simply want to go home afterwards a lot of people do not look up every little detail about directors Producers writers actors etc. Because they have more important things to do like gee I don't know go to work figure out how to put food on the table at night manage their health and Countless things that take time away from hey who involved with scream is absolute scum a jackass And what drama is going on with this IP because you know that's gonna dictate if I buy a ticket or not a lot of people Just do not engage with art like that despite our own realities Managing to somehow delude us or convince us otherwise from time to time nine times out of ten if I go up to someone at the premiere screen seven and I say hey Do you know you're supporting a company who fired an actress for wanting peace? They're gonna go okay, and because it just offers little significance to them It's just not gonna be very relevant to why they bought their ticket a lot of people simply do not care But people they just I don't know if it's because they don't accept this or if they really think a Lot of people care about this stuff that deeply they don't they don't have time for that There's so many other things people are so preoccupied with that are innately gonna take precedence over stuff involving strangers They don't care they're gonna go see screen seven if it's marketed well if it's promoted well And of course if it's getting positive reviews too to aid in that if it was something They weren't even considering go see they're a hundred percent gonna go see it if that happens if it gets good press if it gets a lot of attention if the TV spots and all the footage the trailers etc all of that starts attracting them The to the ones who are again are not doing what we do looking up Oh, what drama are the directors involved in what scandals going on with this actor of What asshole Gary Barber is up to like people are not they're just not doing that on a grand scale That's a very minuscule piece of people who go out and see these movies that are doing that but her and Dempsey We're reportedly of course as we know on the wish list for spyglass So if Vanderbilt hasn't been ordered to completely reboot the series. There's always a chance He's working on a story for Kincaid and Sydney Keep in mind Kevin Williamson at one point said that his scream six would have seen Sydney getting married and Ghostface returns To ruin this now. Maybe we see something like that in scream seven Obviously with some rewiring since she's already married What if her and Kincaid are renewing their vows to open the film and the ceremony is ruined by a Ghostface attack You could also still do Christina Carpenter and we find out Sydney and Christina already knew each other But because we've never met Christina You could pull a Debbie once again and hide her in plain sight and people would not be expecting that to come Because none of the cast members would even be announced as hey So-and-so is starting as Christina Carpenter. It would just be a while you're watching the movie type of twist So just spitballing an idea there still her comments are already getting causing a fire because she didn't say what should have been said according to endless strangers like myself who do not know this woman And I I really do not care to know her. I don't mean that in any type of disrespectful way I would be honored to meet her tell her how much Sydney means to me gush over how beautiful she is But beyond that I'm not looking to be friends with Neve Campbell or anything beyond a fan that appreciates her work as an actress I suspect spyglass is giddy about this if they Even still want her back which again was in the cards for seven before landing Melissa and Ortega left It's very possible that under the right circumstances again from her own mouth Could include spyglass being out of the picture because of how they treated her Melissa etc But Neve honestly strikes me like the type of person who knows it's just business and would sign up in a heartbeat If everything aligns with her business model I also can't really say I expect her to speak up for Melissa because I don't know how close those two are Also with a company like spyglass in charge It is fair to consider this Neve may never come across those right circumstances as she speaks about So perhaps if he hasn't been ordered to write a sydney centric narrative Perhaps vanderbilt is better off writing an entirely new story That would allow fresh blood to come in and eliminate a possible no show from there If you pin a sydney centric story and spyglass continues to fail to meet her standards Just something to consider when we all want to start jumping down her throat because she didn't deliver the comments We would have loved to hear from her where she's bashing spyglass Standing up for melissa berrera and all of that good jazz Let me know what you guys think about these comments from neve cambell down the comment section below about her being open to returning to the franchise What do you think about it? If you haven't already of course make sure you subscribe turn on post notifications so that you never miss a video in the description I will have links on my social media accounts. I'm on facebook twitter and instagram You can message me there of course to let me know if there are any movies news or reviews You like me to cover in the future and with all that in mind guys I will see you in the next video


Hi guys, so today I want to do a video on what you could take in high school to better prepare you for college slash nursing school. I get asked this question a lot. A lot of you are sophomores, juniors, seniors in high school and you're wondering what can I take now to help me when I actually go into nursing because you know you want to do nursing and you want to am I boring you? You just had to sniff my hair and you want to be better prepared for nursing school which I think is awesome. So I want to talk about some classes that you could take. So I think one of the best things you can do if it's offered at your high school is take classes that you know are going to be offered for your actual nursing degree. So if your high school offers college level classes or you can get college credit then take those if they correlate with your nursing degree. So like your English 101 or 102, your basic maths, I think for most nursing schools you have to go up to pre-calculus. Don't quote me but I know at least for my degree I had to at least have up to pre-calc. So take classes where you can earn high school credit and college credit. I know another one that I had to take was statistics. I had to take chemistry and there was a lot of courses that I took in high school that I got college credit for but there were some that I took in high school that it wasn't offered for college credit and I ended up basically retaking them again in college. Any of your science courses are going to be really beneficial in nursing school. So your chemistry, your biology, your anatomy, physiology, I wish if I could go back I wish that my last year in high school that I didn't take calculus and that I took like anatomy and physiology. I don't really regret it but I think it would have been a better transition into college so to speak because like I don't use calculus at all. Like I'm pretty sure I forgot everything but I mean it's still beneficial because you're exercising your brain and you're thinking outside the box and all that but yeah anything that you can earn college credit for in high school is wonderful if that's offered if not again taking those sciences your English your maths. Another great thing that I recommend you look into is a lot of big high schools offer like a cna program on top of high school like where maybe your last class of the day you're studying to be a cna or you take an extra class at the end of the day to study to become a cna so that way like you could get your cna while you're in high school possibly be working and then when you get out of high school you can be working as a cna while preparing for nursing school which is going to be great experience great exposure. I know not all high school offer that but I know a lot of them do so that's another great thing to look into so those are some of my tips for high schoolers that know you want to do nursing. Again these are just my kind of personal I guess opinions and advice but you should enjoy your time in high school because really once you get to college you're going to have to take all the classes anyway but if you're one of those people which I know I was that wants to get ahead and be prepared those are some things that you can do if you guys have any other tips or advice leave those in the comments below give this video a thumbs up and subscribe to my channel and I'll see you next time bye


Welcome to the Everton News Daily. Sean Dyche was speaking after Everton's fourth home defeat of the season on Saturday beaten 2-1 by Luton Tarn at Gwladyswn Park. Another frustrating home afternoon for Evan, Mr Hoogster's chances as well. Sean Dyche was asked for his thoughts on that defeat. This is what he had to say. I'm disappointed in the result, obviously. Performance is broken record time, dominated so much of the game, give away really poor goals and don't take our chances. So changing the story, which I've spoken about endlessly this season, is our responsibility. We had a brilliant chance, I thought today, a platform to change or begin the process of changing the story, the depth of it the last two years and all the noise and all the rest of it. And we don't take it. And that's no disrespect to Luton because they've worked hard, they've done exactly what you do when you're new in the news. They've worked hard, they've kept their shape, they've run so hard, they've played forwards, they've asked questions in the sense of getting set pieces. And they win a game from doing the really hard ugly side of the game. We kind of get to that point when we do it. We do it against Brentford and played very well. We did it on Wednesday and played very well, not just the good stuff, but all the hard yards, all the details. It comes to today, the crowd are ready, everyone's ready for the story to change and we don't step on. And that's the difference, that's what we've got to change. Another disappointing afternoon for evidence, the seventh home defeat in the last eight games, which is an awful record to be honest. And it's something they've got to sort out very, very quickly before this season, get away from them. Another massive game now on Godduson on Saturday when Bournemouth arrived in San Bournemouth, haven't won a game yet this season. So ever after, make sure, unlike the Luton game, that they are not the victims of the first win for the visiting team. The manager was asked about any psychological issues at home. Does he think it is a psychological issue? The fact that evidence home form is so bad, this is a response to that question. I don't know, it's just strange that it shouldn't be, because the crowd have been brilliant. The crowd are there, they're waiting today.  The freedom that comes in front of a crowd can get tight, but not when the crowd are right behind you like here. You know, we've just had two great results on the road. It travels quickly here, the noise, because there's so many going on the road, which you know. You know, taking so many down to Brentford, respect always for away fans, all fans, but particularly having to cost a lot of money. Loads go to Villa, two very good performances with the right performance style, quality and the grit and determination to see it through. And you come back here, there isn't anything to factor in other than just going and playing. I think the crowd are right with us. I'm very frustrated with that. You know, because it can become, I've been in football all my life, as you know. And you know, it can get tricky with crowds, but they've been brilliant here. They're desperate for us to change the story. This is very frustrating, you know, because the team are there, you know, it's like, go on then, change the story. Have a say and be the person that makes a difference. Don't wait for someone else to do it, take it on yourself, and it spreads like wildfire. And we sort of nearly do. We did it last week at Brentford. We do it in the week. And then today, just that weird thing where everyone's sort of looking for someone else to change it, you know. Will someone else do it for me? It's an odd thing. And I've been trying to break it since I've been at the club and we keep trying. We're going to keep working with them and keep demanding more and keep working with the details and keep taking it on and keep reminding them. The club's ready for us to change the story, but it's only us that can do it. Yeah, there you go. Like I said, it's something I haven't have to solve very quickly. It's starting this Saturday. You know, huge game. Let's get the three points and start winning some games with football, with Goulders and Parkers. We're going to need to, otherwise we will be in massive trouble. Despite the defeat, the manager was asked what positives he could take from the game. This was his response to that. Well, that's been the same story as well. We've had a chance in every... I don't know what the XG is right up there, you know. By the way, just to be clear, you don't examine a whole performance on XG. But it's another marker. It gives you an idea. Bodies in the box, balls going in the box, quality chances created. You've got to take them at the end of the day. And their body language to take theirs was better than ours, particularly the set piece. The first one, more so than the second one, we didn't organise properly or quickly enough. But the first one was just a desire to go and head the ball and a desire to go and get a challenge into offer clearance and score a goal. We've got to score goals however they come. Sometimes they're beautiful, sometimes they're ugly. But no-one looks at that at the end of the season. Just scoring goals. There you go. Some positive news. The permanent outer section of the roof at Everton New Stadium is being rolled out today at the north stand. It looks very, very impressive. Going on the stadium has come along fantastic now and I personally can't wait to get there. And also today the first granite floor slabs have been laid in the north corner of the fan plaza. So we're seeing an accelerated version of this now coming up. You're looking at it. Obviously there's lots of drone videos out there as well. Fi'r tig o'n techau, but it is looking really, really impressive. And it is the one real positive thing we've got right now at the football club show. Lo'r mae dac yn syng. You get that ground. Open running and let's get in there as quickly as possible. Because one thing's for certain, there is no good or some factor at the moment. So let's get to the new stadium as quick as possible. And finally, Everton's women lost their first game of the season as well to complete a miserable weekend for the Blues. They were beaten 2-1 at home to Brighton. The new captain, Meg Finnegan, scored a goal, but wasn't enough to earn Everton a share of the spoils against Brighton at Walton Allpark. That is it for the news day. Give the video a thumbs up and subscribe if you haven't. See you later.


The United States is seeing one of the largest movements in its history. Protests continue in hundreds of cities across the United States against racism and demanding justice for its victims. The protests have been going on for more than a month after the killing of George Floyd on May 25th. An estimated 15 to 26 million people in the U.S. have participated in Black Lives Matter demonstrations as of mid-June. In places such as New York City and Seattle, protests are taking place every day. The memory and demands for justice for George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Almond Arbery remain central to this wave. At the same time, the rallying cry of Black Lives Matters has translated to concrete demands to local, state, and federal officials. Some of the most significant demands have been end to impunity for officers involved in violence and the killing of Black, Latino, Native, and working class people. An end to police brutality against protesters. Defunding the police and all repressive apparatuses. Increased investment in services such as public education, housing, and healthcare. July 4th, Independence Day, was marked by protests organized across the country. The freedom to be hungry. You got the freedom not to have a job.  You got a freedom to die on the street, but you don't have the freedom to live. So when we say freedom for who, it's not freedom for the oppressed people. It's not freedom for the working classes. It's freedom for the rich. It's freedom for the elites. It's the freedom of the imagination to make you think you got something when you don't have anything at all. It's no doubt that the whole world has woken up. Some people again, some people already knew they never went to sleep. But regardless, if you were to sleep, wait for whatever now you know about this war on Black America. Now we could do one or two things. There's a lot of people, many people, mentioned they want to paint streets. They want to pass some nonsensical law that doesn't do anything about that. We could go that way and it could be over tomorrow. And they can have everything they want. The elites, the rich, the police, they have everything they want as soon as they get us out of the streets. Or we can make one simple vow that we will stay in the streets, that we will make this country ungovernable, that if necessary we will turn it upside down. Because George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmed Aubrey, everyone who's ever been killed unjustly by this brutal system deserves it. And it's in our hands to make justice reality for them, to take this system by the neck, to drag it down, to burn it if we have to, just like they took down the slave plantations in the Civil War. That was a destruction. They say destruction of property. That was a trillion-dollar destruction of property and it was righteous. Property isn't more important than people. Property isn't more important than humanity. A broken window can be replaced, but life cannot be replaced. It's in our hands. It's in our hands. We have to rise up and continue to fight. In Seattle, the Black Fem March organized on July 4th at a tragic end when a driver drove their car into the crowd. 24-year-old Summer Taylor was killed and another protester, Diaz Love, was gravely injured. The violent police response to protests since May 25th has cost several lives already and left many with serious injuries, including loss of vision. In Aurora, Colorado, sustained mobilizations have been held to demand justice for Elijah McClain. He was murdered by the police on August 24th, 2019. Police officers had stopped him for looking suspicious.  McClain suffered a heart attack and died in the hospital days later. To this day, his family has been denied any form of restitution from the city because McClain had been classified as a suspect. On July 3rd, the Party for Socialism and Liberation and the Frontline Party for Revolutionary Action organized an action to demand justice for McClain. They marched from the site where McClain was murdered to outside the Aurora Police Office. They began a peaceful occupation demanding that the officers involved in his death be fired. The police department continues to refuse to meet the people's demands. You can do it, you can do it, you can do it, you can do it.


Think Tech Alive, Civil Engagement Lives Here. About on Think Tech Alive's streaming network series, I'm your host, Winston Welch, and I'm delighted you're joining us today. Where every other week we explore a variety of topics, organizations, events, and the people who fuel them in our city, state, country, and world. As a disclaimer, any views or opinions expressed by me are strictly my own, and are not connected with any organization I might be affiliated with. Joining me today in the studio is our guest, Michael Goyloju, Jr. Grassroots Coordinator from Compassion and Choices, the nation's oldest, largest, and most active nonprofit organization committed to improving care and expanding options for end-of-life options, end of the end of life. And today we're gonna talk about some current legislation going through Hawaii and HB 2739, and issues surrounding this, which are not always clear-cut and very passionate, I think, on both sides. So with that, I would like to welcome you to the show today, Michael. No, thank you for having me. Well, you know, and thank you for coming down in your Grassroots Coordinator of this organization. So tell me about that. How did you get involved with this, and why did you get involved with it? I've always supported medical aid and dying. It's been something as far back as I can remember, and it's been a privilege to work on this. I was asked to come on a year ago in January to help them within, it was SB 1129 that went through the legislature. And so we were hopefully optimistic last year. We've seen the bill get farther this year than we've ever seen it before. So I got involved because it matters.  And so Grassroots Coordinator is your official title there. What does that mean that you do as a Grassroots Coordinator? I work with our volunteers, our many wonderful hundreds of volunteers across the state and supporters. I also do outreach to organizations to see if we can get their support to come on board and make sure that they know when and where to testify and to come out down and engage their legislature because that seems to be the biggest hurdle whenever advocating for any issues, making sure that people understand how they can reach out to their legislators the most effectively. Yeah, I think we talked about that here a couple of weeks ago when we had the Hawaii Cannabis Alliance on here. And just spent quite a bit of time going through the rather complex steps that a bill goes through to become a law and all the areas it can be killed in or smothered in or just or advance in and how that whole process is. And I think it's rather opaque to ordinary people and even people that know about it. There's just a lot of different boxes that you got to go through to get any bill there. But the main thing you're saying is if you want your voice to be heard, you got to be aware, you got to follow the issue, you got to support the organizations that you believe in whatever the cause is and then look to them for guidance and also maybe give them some guidance too on their where they're at. Exactly. And just trying to break down the barriers between the average citizen being able to reach out to their legislators. Because unlike other states, we have some really open doors here in Hawaii how to get your testimony in, be able to reach out to your legislators. When people come to visit from the mainland, they're always surprised that there are no security gates they have to go through at the Capitol that they can just walk in and walk it to our legislators office. It's a little more difficult for our neighbor Island folks, but there's still the direct website that calling in. Unfortunately, I'm hopeful one day we will actually have video, be able to testify by video for our neighbor Island members. Well, maybe that's next after this one. So I was just looking, I've been following this issue for a while and like you as a youngster, I was to join the great Panthers which was advocating for senior citizen rights back when I was 18 or 19 because I realized I'm gonna be a senior citizen someday. I want the curb cuts there. I want social security be in place. I want Medicare and Medicaid and all of that to be there. I want our society to value all of its members in a way when I arrive, I'll be there already. So I can understand that. And also I remember, I think giving or somehow probably supporting the Hemlock Society which may be a precursor to this organization. Are you aware of them? The Hemlock, yes, we are. They were around before compassionate in choices, but we differ on some of the, when it comes to the choices. Like it is that you're gonna have many different voices working towards the same goal. That's compassionate in choices. Why we have death with dignity or society and there are other different societies out there or organizations working towards the same goal. It's been really nice to be working with them, getting to know all of them as well as the diversity of our support. It's putting together this coalition has been one of my happiest moments as it was and as a community activist and community organizer. And I'll get to that in a minute. All the different organizations that you do work with because you're right, it's not just one organization or one group doing this. This is a large number of voices working together on a sensitive and difficult topic which is around death and something that we don't really deal with well in our society at all. I wonder how many people even fill out an advanced care directive in the hospital. Yeah, and that's something else that we do. We're not just advocating for medical aid and dying. We're also making sure people know about advanced directives and they know how to let their doctors know what they want and their family members. So we engage them in making those tough decisions now so that their family doesn't have to, should something come up that empowering people to understand their choices at the end of life. And really, I think what we need to be looking at is end of life options way before we reach the end of life. Exactly. I think we have the little glimpse of that on our driver's license card when we can say, do you want to be an organ donor? But that's about it. It seems to me like kids, yeah, kids getting their driver's license. I was 14 when I got my first driver's license and there's not a sense that you're going to expire at some point in life. But just like everybody that's ever lived on this planet, you have an expiration date and we don't really think like that when we're young but it seems to me like we should have some, something beyond that. Even as kids, I remember in seventh grade, I took something called like death and dying class and they actually took us to a morgue which was very advanced I think in those days. That was, yeah, seventh grade. And I always thought this is a special experience that we have. I think we could have gone to a botany lab as well but this was just a different thing and I just realized this is an area that we don't really have a lot of experience in. And so when people are faced with these choices, they're suddenly overwhelmed by everything and you're looking at maybe your parents or your own life or even a child's life and it can all be just too much all at the last minute. So how does your organization step in with this and help with these choices in this education? Well, one of the things we do is we are always looking for tabling opportunities to go out there. Like we've done the senior fair, we do conferences but we have some really great resources on our website at compassionchoices.com, compassionchoices.org about making sure that it's starting these conversations and because there's something, no matter how diverse you are from everybody else whether it makes you different than anything, everybody else is that we all have one thing in common, we're all gonna die. And so that making sure that you can put your life in your own hands if you ever get, even if you never get a terminal illness that you know that you can have say in how you are treated medically should anything arise. And I think that's one thing about your organization is it just doesn't focus on aid and dying. This is the whole range of things so you can go there and find an advanced care directive or just even documents on how to begin the conversation with your loved ones or even what to think about. Yeah, it's about having another conversation and that's the one thing that we wanna make sure everybody knows is that medical aid and dying isn't for everybody and that's why it's a choice but there's also a lot of other choices out there that are making sure that your will and your wishes are done because we were talking about your life and your medical care. They could still be making those choices and decisions for you but you. Nobody should be making those choices for you but you. Okay, and so your organization which is compassionandchoices.org we can find a whole range of materials on there. Exactly. So this bill that's coming out, I just saw on the advertiser or the star advertisers or newspaper that the medical aid and dying bill heads for the full Senate vote here. So this was Friday's paper and it looks like it looks like this has cleared its last major hurdle at the state legislature paving away for the full vote by the Senate. So the House Judiciary Committee voted four to one to advance this bill and now it goes on to the full Senate. Then what happens after that? Then as long as the Senate hears it before 10 days before the end of session the governor then has 10 days to sign, veto or allow to come law without a signature. So we are hopefully optimistic that the bill will be getting noticed soon that the Senate will be going to our full vote and that's when they all get to debate it. If they have anything they want to say on the issue or not. It's open to the public. If you want to come down and support us we sure would like to have everybody down there with us when the bill comes up. But we have a Facebook page and we'll put notices there. But yeah, so this is the similar bill that we talked about SB 1129 passed the Senate 22 to three last session. So we're hopefully optimistic that we will pass this last hurdle and the governor will then esteem to sign it into law. Well, if it passed last session then 23 to two. 22 to three. 22 to three. So it passed and then what happened? It went over to the House and there were some concerns in the House and the Health Committee and that's where it got deferred. And so that's why between last session and now we've had conversations. We kept the conversation alive by doing the senior fair and the one thing that we heard loud and clear well even at the senior fair is that people were like why didn't it pass? And we're like, we don't know. There are many different things that caused it not to pass last session and we're just really grateful that it's gotten so far. This is as far as any medical aid and dying bill has ever gotten. And so we can see the finish line but we take no vote for granted. We take, and we encourage people to reach out to their senators and let them know. And let them know that they support it and why? Because it's that kind of interactive interpersonal communication that we have that really has helped move this bill forward. And we pull it 70 to 80% support depending on which polling you're looking at. And has this already passed the House then? Yes, it's done the full House. We had a five and a half, was it five and a half? Five and a half, eight, almost six hour hearing in the House. There's a joint committee hearing and so everybody and then it passed the House, I'm gonna say 33 to 18. So a little bit more contentious in the House. And then when this, so when is this actually going to come up? We don't know exactly. We don't know, we're waiting for the report to be issued from the committee. They voted on Friday so the report can hit any day now and after the report hits the floor, it has to sit there on the floor for 48 hours before they can do a vote and that's the law. So it could come up anytime even this week. Okay, and then after that it goes to the governor. It goes directly to the governor and he has 10 days to sign veto or let become law without a signature. And he's indicated that he would sign this. He has indicated, he's given us every indication that he would sign it by the fact that he submitted testimony in support of it and he has made sure that a member of his staff has been at every hearing to let them know. Okay, and so what we're talking about is this bill taking effect for mentally competent residents who are at least 18 years old have been given six months or less to live, would be eligible under the bill to request lethal medication to choose under their own lives. Two healthcare providers would need to confirm the patient's diagnosis, prognosis, competence, and that the request is voluntary. Before any medication is prescribed, the patient would need to receive mandatory counseling from a psychiatrist, psychologist, or clinical social worker. We're talking today with Michael Goilaouf from Compassion and Choices. We're gonna take a short break here. My name is Winston Welch and this is out and about on Think Tech Live Streaming Network series. We'll be back in a moment. This is what happens when he gets to go in. He's a service dog. Well, I could get a vest too. You're not even a service dog. He's trained to assist his owner. Well, I can do whatever he can do. Wow, did he just open the door? Yep. Oh, I can't do that. I can't do that either. He's trained for over two years to become a service dog. Man, I wish I could be a service dog. Aloha. I'm Marsha Joyner, inviting you to come visit with us on Cannabis Chronicles, a 10,000 year odyssey where we explore and examine the plant that the muse has given us and stay with us as we explore all of the facets of this planet on Wednesdays at noon. Please join us. Aloha. Since they did a lot of the state to make their mind. Hey, well, we're back. We're live. I'm Winston Welch. This is out and about on Think Tech Live streaming network series. We're talking with my go-go lawyer, Jr. Grasswood's coordinator from Compassion and Choices. And it's legislation that's currently working its way through the legislature on end-of-life issues. This bill is Senate bill. House bill 2739. I'm sorry, House bill 2739. But it is in the Senate now. Okay, so how does that read when it's in the Senate? It's still House bill. It's so-called House bill. Because that's the vehicle. So you have Senate bills, SB and House bills, HB, and they keep that number through their entire process no matter which chamber they're in. Okay, and I can see this is a sensitive issue because we're talking about people's lives ending and for the first time in, well, legally in our history, the option to be able to decide the timing of your own departure on your own terms if you have a terminal illness. Exactly. Now what other states and countries have laws like this? Oregon's the one that's headed the longest. We're going on 20 years there. California passed it a year ago. So they just had their one year anniversary this past October. And then you have Colorado, Washington, D.C. And I think, Washington, maybe? Washington State, yes. Washington State, yes. So it's just a few states at this point. What other nations have exact issues with this, are you aware? Holland, and there's some other ones that do have it. They have enacted this. Maybe Switzerland or something like that, yeah. Elton does too, if I'm not mistaken, but so we're at the vanguard of this right now. And- Well, Oregon was the vanguard of this, so they paved the way and the one thing that we want to make sure everybody knows that it's never been abused or misused in Oregon. There's been no cases of anybody ever being coerced into using, accessing medical aid and dying in Oregon over the 20 years. And so this argument from our opposition saying it's a slippery slope, that A, it's not true, and B, it's just there's nothing to back up their claims on that. So tell us about Oregon maybe, since we have the most out on that, you probably can reference out the most. What numbers of people are we looking at? I think Oregon probably has, I'm guessing, about two million people, or maybe twice the population of Hawaii. So we can just figure out the math from there. Let's just say two to make the math easy, or maybe three, because we probably have a one and a half million in the state. How many people a year are actually applying for this? And what's the process? Is our bill similar to theirs? Our bill actually has more safeguards than theirs, because they don't have a requirement for, but the meeting with the psychologist or psychiatrist and making sure that, and the reason that's in there is to make sure that people aren't going that after getting a diagnosis and because they're depressed. Because when you get a terminal illness diagnosis, that can cause depression, and we understand that. And so there's that safeguard there. But for the rest of it, our bill's basically very much mirroring each other. And so with that extra step, we believe that this bill, it will be one of the, that it is the one of the most protective ones of people's rights as well as safeguards to ensure that it's not being misused. Now, how many people a year in Oregon are actually, I guess, requesting the medicine in advance? Okay, if I don't hold me to these numbers, if I remember correctly, it's around 250 people a year. And of those that request it, only 10% actually, after getting the prescription, actually fill out the prescription, get the prescription filled, of that, where you're looking at even a lesser number of people that actually go through with it. Because it's more of a, what's the right word? Safeguard are, they feel that they now have their life in their own hands. So it's, even to know it's there, is a comfort for somebody who's been diagnosed. And again, that you have to be terminally ill, mentally confident, above the 18 years of age, and no sign of depression, and they're depressed. Well, I would imagine that people are a little bit depressed if they get a terminal diagnosis. That part actually seems a little bit silly to me, because if you're there, you might be depressed, but let's say, okay, you got that safeguard built in, and you make it through everything. But I also, so this gives people a measure of control at the end where they're really not a lot of control that they're looking at, you know. I guess fundamentally what it comes down to. And the option at least to exercise that, even though 90% or maybe 85, something like that don't. Yeah, so, and, because when you have a terminal illness, and they're everybody's like, oh, palliative care, hospice that they're able to, but requiring somebody to sit there without this law, requiring somebody with a terminal illness that's living through pain day in and day out, to that you'd be requiring them to live through that pain, because there's only so much palliative care can do to hand double the pain. And then it comes also, someone's deciding how much they can take by pain or dignity when they lose the ability to control their bowels as we had, and so we're heading into, again, it's a personal choice. There's nothing in here that requires a doctor to participate, nothing requires a terminal ill patient to do it, and again, it's the terminal ill patient's decision. So if you're a doctor, you can say, I really don't want to be involved in this. Like abortion, you have doctors that perform them and you have doctors that do not, and so there's nothing in this bill that requires a doctor to participate. So there's a lot of people that have testified for and against this bill. It seems, it's interesting because the Office of the Governor supported it, Department of Health, the Attorney General, the American Psychological Association, even the Longshoremen's Union, which is interesting, the, it looks like AFL-CIO, a lot of the Democratic caucus and a lot of others in here, the LGBT caucus, the Kapuna caucus of the Democratic Party, Death with Dignity, Capacity and Choices, Francis Civil Rights, the Hawaii Martin Luther King Junior Coalition, it's a very interesting mix of choices. On the other side, you have, you know, I think what you typical St. Francis and the White Catholic Conference, you have the Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund Association of People with Disabilities, which I can understand because we've had some history in the past, we go back to the Nazis and they said, okay, people with disabilities, that's it. So how are we addressing this and making sure that that's not something that's included in this or wouldn't even be considered and how do we protect those people? Oh, but a disability is not a terminal illness and so just because you have a disability doesn't mean you cannot access this a lot. The only thing you have is, and I've had these gut-wrenching discussions in heart-wrenching because they've been fed lies, which it is not even, you can have differences of opinions, but you can have your own facts. There is nothing in the bill that would allow somebody with a disability to even ask their doctor for access to medical aid. Unless they had a terminal illness. You have to have the, yeah, anybody with a terminal illness, six months or less to live, then can, if you have a disability or not, but just because you have a disability, you cannot access the medical aid night. And it's been one of my biggest frustrations is that they would be willing to lie to their supporters to get their support on it, to go against this. And I'm like, if you can have a difference opinion for whatever reasons, and we see that there's some religious groups in there that are against it, but we also have religious groups on our side that support it. That's what I was going to say, is there's probably religious groups that have ended up on both sides of this discussion. So maybe I think is what happens a lot in our societies today as you have how did Kelly and Conway put alternative facts or something along that.  And so you're gonna sign here, grandma. I find it laughable. Actually, I almost find it disgusting that that's what they go to. And I'm like, what kind of family are they coming from where they would even think of that? Just because you're old doesn't mean you have eternal illness, therefore you can't access it. And that we should be, and they keep on saying, oh, we're caring about the elders, but I find it funny that we never see them at the Capitol when we actually have bills up before that would be protecting, making sure there is an elder abuse that we have in over the years. Our opposition never seems to be there at those hearings. And when they're talking about disabilities, it's protecting those with the disabled community. They're not at the hearings that we actually, for like HB 1489, that would actually ensure non-discrimination against the disabled community. So these are probably, and you think there are enough safeguards in there. You got a couple doctors coming in, social workers. I'm sure they pull the person aside as, apart from their family who are whoever's in the will. I noticed in the documents themselves, it says at least one of these people signing this, the witness cannot be related to you, cannot be a member of your will, cannot be a member of the healthcare facility. So there's a lot of safeguards built into this. So it's, but I want to acknowledge that these people have a real fear of this. And so maybe as time goes by and they see results that are, the fears are not coming to play. I understand their idea that life should be lived to the very last second, but given our modern technology and the way that we're able to prolong lives in ways that we simply didn't have 10 years ago, 200 years ago, that this is something that's on the other spectrum and where we're giving people a right to choose whether or not, how they want to control the end of their lives. And we're not talking huge numbers of people, but a very passionate topic here. So what do you think, and we're not talking of any problem with palliative care, your organization completely sports palliative care, hospice, and you want to see people have the best outcomes at the end of their lives. And then, yeah, that they choose what they've made those decisions for themselves. It's not their family making it for them. It's not their doctor making it for them. Then it's the terminally ill patient being able to choose what's best for them. And everybody else as well, because that's what advanced directors are there for, is to making sure that you have control of your life at the end of life, and that there are a lot of options out there. How if you want to do hospice, if you, DNR, do not resuscitate orders. People think that's all there is, that there's actually, you can actually say how much medical care you're willing, you want, should you be in an accident. So are we looking at death tourism coming to Hawaii? No, you have to be a resident of Hawaii. There is no death tourism when it comes to any of the medical aid and dyings in the country, because you have to be a resident. And so when people, one of the arguments was, oh, you don't have to make it law here, they can go to Oregon to take advantage of it. And I'm like... Oregon probably has a similar law. They do have a similar law. And when somebody's terminally ill, telling them they have to travel 3,000 miles away from their family to access medical aid and dyings, there's no compassion in that at all. And it's, you know, I think about Logan's run, right? There's, we're not going to have, when people turn 30 years old, their little umber starts flashing and they get to go get their pill. Nope, because there's nothing about age it has to do solely with terminal illness. And so we're respecting as much as possible, the individual as he or she approaches the end of his or her life and just making full use of those options. And so this house bill, which is now house bill... 2739. 2739 will be popping up sometime. We can go to your website, compassionandchoices.org for more information or your Facebook page. What would that be? compassionandchoices.org. That they'll give you the, when the comes up for the hearing, not the hearing, I'm sorry. The third reading, which is the last final vote in the Senate, we will put the notice out there. And then once it becomes law, we can look at access. And help people know that how to gain access and use it, because it will not go into effect until should the Senate pass it in the governor's time into January 1st, 2019. Okay, and I think it's important for all of us, no matter who we are to make sure that our affairs are up to date. Make sure that your wishes are known with your family members, regardless of what those wishes are. There's no agenda here. It's just making sure that you have control of what you want. So make sure you have your documents out there. Talk with your family. Talk with your doctor. Talk with these great organizations out there that are on all sides of the issue, so that you can be the most informed person of your life, because it's your show, you're the director, producer, writer and star. So we really appreciate you coming here today, Michael. Michael, thank you for having me. We will come back again another time and see if this passes how we might implement that and talk about other things, about maybe some of the documents and what we might do to be responsible. Oh, totally, we'll definitely be more, either myself or someone else from the organization will be more than happy to come back to make sure people understand access. Okay, well, thank you so much. So unfortunately, as always, it goes very fast. We are out of time and I'm gonna have to wrap it up here. I am Winston Welch, this is out and about Think Tech Live streaming network series and today I have been talking with Michael Goloyu Jr., grassroots coordinator from Compassion and Choices, the nation's oldest, largest and most active nonprofit organization committing to improving care and expanding options for the end of life. Thank you so much and we'll see you here next time. Aloha.


Yankees trying to continue their winning ways at the stadium today they've won four straight they've won five consecutive series and they're 13 and three in their last 16 home games and by the way since April 16th best record in the majors at 21 and 7 we already detailed what happened yesterday in that night thing a variety of different names chipping in that's why I said they're a fascinating team right now Bob no one expected the Yankees to be able to do this with all of their injuries and what has that run allowed them to do move into first place other than being one and oh at the start of this year it's the first time they're in first place since July 1st of last year Aaron Boone the manager has this team believing in itself this team keeps going out there there's so much talk about who's not here but the players who are here are saying why don't you put the focus on us we're the best team in baseball for the last month well how about Cashman and his crew mining for gold out there and what did they come up with Kendris Morales second game and he sparks the team early with a home run yesterday I'm standing next to David Cohn when Kendris Morales hit that home run and he's obviously a new Yankee his first Homer as a Yankee and Cohn just turned to me and said what about Cashman what about every move that Cashman in this front office makes and it produces dividends so the move today if you will or one of them is pairing Tanaka with Austin Romine once again and Romine and this is nothing against Gary Sanchin but has a knack for making pitchers stick with something that maybe is not working i.e. the splitter and employing them to keep throwing it throwing it to get it this is a really good pairing Bob and I know it's only three starts this year and those numbers are crazy so that's a small sample size but he actually has good career numbers with Romine and I think when you're looking for a spot to get Gary Sanchez arrest anyway if there's a pitcher who is really comfortable with a catcher this might be a spot that Aaron Boone can use when it works to have Romine pairing up with Tanaka because they obviously have a connection Romine calls Tanaka a surgeon out there and says he absolutely loves catching him because Tanaka has so many weapons and I think Romine does a good job of trying to figure out which weapon and any given inning or against any given batter is going to work


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Hello everyone. It is really good to be back. I'm not fully back. I think on Monday. I will probably resume With regularly scheduled programming put out one to two videos per day, but I just I just wanted to make a quick video Just telling you all thank you so much. Thank you to Christo avalice for filling in for me I was not necessarily in the right mental space. I think to talk. I still don't know if I am you know when you kind of just feel like Your head is in a fog and you know, you don't necessarily know if you're making sense That's kind of been me. Um, so thank you so much to Christo avalice for filling in for me I just kind of needed a day to You know take everything in and for those of you who don't know my father passed away on Tuesday and It's it's you know, it's a little bit shocking I've never my family has been really fortunate that we haven't dealt with death With that close of a family member like my grandpa passed away in 2005 my grandma passed away When I was a kid and I was close to her But never anyone this close to me and I've been really privileged to not have to deal with that until now So, you know, it wasn't like this was unexpected. My dad has been sick for a very long time So I had kind of already pre-greed if that makes sense like back in 2015 the doctors gave them six months to a year to live and He survived that they gave him another six months. He passed that so it's like there's this really strong sense of disbelief to me and That's why I don't like it, you know, I don't know what I'm trying to say.  My family is doing okay. So now I can kind of focus on myself But with that being said I'm anxious to get back because you know I can't not pay attention to what's happening politically and the day that it happened I actually I took a look at the Super Tuesday results because this happened on Super Tuesday And I saw that we were getting Demolished and I almost had a panic attack. So I had to take my high blood pressure medicine I'm not kidding to stop crazy and then I realized, you know, what it might be a good idea to kind of just put out something Letting people know that I might have to stay away from politics for a little bit I think it's getting easier to kind of get back into it as I browse Twitter and whatnot and the news But you know, I wanted to prioritize mental health and you know given the election results and knowing how just Closely I was following this out. There was this worry that people would think that if I That like I was fully blackpilled or like killed myself or something if I didn't come back So I didn't want anyone to think, you know anything bad like that You know, just just dealing with everything It's funny.  He voted from in 2016 in the last conversation that I had with my dad I was saying we're gonna win Bernie's gonna win. I I feel that I believe it and You know, so that's just something that's interesting like Because I think it's relevant like my dad is kind of the person who created the political identity that I have You know, always hated the establishment always in outsider hated Republicans hated Democrats Hated anyone who demonized the poor and immigrants, you know We had conversations about how sad it was that immigrants were being demonized now. He is like There's really a part of me a Part of him that you hear from me every time I talk about politics because he he just influenced so much of my worldview and Built me up into the person that I am, you know, so it's um Yeah, it's just it's interesting, you know, and Yeah So just to kind of keep it short. I will be back soon.  Everything happens at the same time I know people are also Horribly upset with the results on Super Tuesday. Don't worry. We're all dealing with this together This isn't something that you're dealing with alone This is something that we're all dealing with and I genuinely believe that, you know, this this election is not over And now if anything, I'm gonna fight harder for it. I'm gonna fight harder for it So that's it. I like I don't even know if I'm going here and at this point I this is the first day that I feel like I I'm fully rested.  So kind.  Maybe people are Compassion and maybe people are you know, they do care about other people, you know, just it helped It really felt good. So thank you all So much, um, but yeah, I'll be back soon. Thank you all for understanding Don't fret. This election is not over. We are going to deal with this together and we're going to give the establishment help They're not getting rid of us no matter how hard they try We will be a thorn in their side Forever and we're gonna win. We will take over Maybe this isn't our time yet. Maybe it will be either way. We continue fighting. Thank you all so much