of T F N N trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> now Larry Pezzavento okay looking good Billy Ray feeling good Lewis I posted a chart up here is hourly hourly chart of the gold as you notice here we had this Gartley drawn in here at the 61% retracement there 208 now the difference is it went up to the 78% level but if you would go over to the left over here you'll see this was a head and shoulders pattern there's your left shoulder your head your right shoulder coming in right there at your 78% level and from there it dropped $30 folks this is tells us that we still are hitting lower in the gold market double-check the trade what you see newsletter you'll see that there's a very very important ABCD down there at the level of 1947-1948 today's big move in silver we hit $26 and then we broke a dollar an ounce today in silver which also tells us that we're moving down and if you also follow the platinum market the platinum also had a pretty big break on Friday and it is continuing I'll bring this up so you can take a quick look at it because these are just corrections folks in a bull market this is a top but how much of a top we're gonna get I don't know but those are just ABCD you see what right up to the 78% level of the high we made last January so the tells us just a correction that's all it is and it's over very overbought because it's been up like eight eight weeks I believe no ten weeks in the platinum so it's had a huge run in that direction so very very important to pay a close attention to that now I wanted to do one other thing here that I think is relatively important because this is the one that everybody is talking about and I want to get this to your attention the best I can so let's hold on here for a second this is the E-mini S&P futures okay and this is what we're going to be looking at here you'll notice that we had these days of course we had this move here this is where we backed off to the exact 382 that was there on the 26th now we have taken all this out now folks we have exceeded these levels here we did get above that 205 level high was 206 and change so we took that out so that's going to be important this market explodes to the upside and keeps going because if it doesn't and if it doesn't that is nothing more than a false breakout much like what you had right here looked like it was going to go up forever and well forever happened to be the next day and then down she came so and we've got some pretty strong cycle stuff coming up along with the fundamentals we got the Fed coming in on Wednesday and the non-farm payroll coming in on Friday so all of those will be really important and back to the charts I wanted to bring a one up that everybody keeps asking about hold on one second it doesn't start with that it starts with this one right here I wanted to show you copper as you know Dr. Copper usually gives you a pretty good idea of what's happening in the market here and as you can see during this last run up copper did not follow through you see it's been going down we had a little two-day bounce and that didn't last very long so that's all this is telling you now that this market because we do have a one three five pattern here could be heading to the downside there's two other things that you have to pay really close attention to if you're following the stock market because you know it's a market of stocks not a stock market but the one that is the most bearish and I want to get this up here and show it to you this is the Dow Jones transportation now one of my favorite books happens to be reminiscences of a stock operator by Edwin LeFever and he always says in that book sell the weakest and sell the weakest and buy the strongest and the Russell as you can see here with this one three five pattern right at the three eight twos been the weakest we hit it one two three times that's where we went short the third time and even during this monster rally that we had in the Dow Jones up six hundred points in the S&P up a hundred and handles from the bottom all this could do was make a three eight two ABCD pattern and I matched it at seventeen eighty five and we sold it at twenty eighteen eighteen I think eighteen fifty eighteen twenty eighteen fifteen and so that was telling you that the market is much much weaker now there's another chart in here that was really surprising to me when I did it over the weekend because I didn't think that it was you know as bad as that but that is the Dow Jones transportation and we're going to have Stan Harley on Wednesday he follows this very very closely he'll give us a pretty good idea of what we're looking at but look at the transportation folks now this is a as you can see here it's a really interesting chart you know going back for quite a while but you'll notice here it's a daily chart you can see the ABCD coming down right to the spot where it was supposed to be there as an ABCD up then it has this big break just like we did here coming in on the twenty sixth you see we're almost making a new low and this is all we can do is a little two-day rally why wasn't this thing making new highs when the rest of it was that's not a sign folks here this is how goods are moved you know airplanes moving people supplies all that stuff so that's not a good sign this thing should be way up there so there's two indices that are a little trouble that doesn't mean they can't catch up and they could but it's a Russell and also the Dow Jones transportation they're leading if you remember back in the days of the the Dow theory with Richard Russell you know they had to all be going together the utilities the Dow Jones and the transportation's in order to keep the market going but you know things have changed so much because of the ETFs and stuff you can't use that anymore it just it's become antiquated I imagine somebody can still use it I happened to not be one of them so that's pretty much what we're paying close attention to but those numbers that we're looking at are important and whether they break through to the upside or don't break through to the upside is what's really what's really important over a period of time going back to the futures market folks there's a big one that's going on right now I just want to get this up here folks when I look at this chart I have to tell you that anybody that listens to fundamentals they ought to go back and rethink what they're thinking about because look at this folks this is when it was going limit up okay we we're we've dropped in half folks look at this we're out so we today we had 614 in the ABCD and this is 601 I mean I mean this is dropped in half from 13 and change down to 614 a bushel something's not right I mean now they're telling us that you know there's the week's gonna go to zero well not that bad but I mean look at this this thing is below on the long-term weekly chart and I do believe I can bring that up to you because I thought that it would be a buy today at 1620 excuse me 620 so I said yep I think if you've been waiting for this you want to be a buyer of the weed at I think it was 622 fortunately you've got to use a stop of about 15 cents and we'll get it up here to take a quick look at it and you can definitely say that without a doubt this is what we call an oversold market so that's what we're looking at so I believe the number on the daily was 1620 in the July wheat is the one we were buying this happens to be the May wheat but the July was at 1620 the last I saw was 618 and three quarters but we'll see what's going on here if you have any questions<PHONE_NUMBER> we'll be right back currencies commodities and bond markets are as important as ever right now with how they're driving the volatility in equity markets across the globe which is why it's a great time to try out teddy keg stats tiger forex report teddy keg stat breaks down the forex markets every monday 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there were some believers out there that said why haven't i seen this before i said well you have just it's not been explained the way that it should be and most people try to do it with elliott wave which i have a little difficulty with but only because i'm looking at one thing ab equal cd and as you can see the abcd here happens to be perfect up there at 4205 the high was 4206 but look at the number of bars this was just a 13 minute chart and 13 bars and look at this you had eight seven bars up and seven bars up exactly that's a perfect abcd now those don't happen perfectly only about 40% of the time the other 60% of the time it just keeps going straight up or it doesn't make the abcd but it could be a 1.27 a 1.618 expansion a lot of different things but when you've got them that line up just like this you know that that's your moment of truth of where you want to be when the market gets ready to possibly turn now if this would have gone up to 4210 it was certainly been a failure and you would have lost but right now you would have picked up a quick 10 points on it and i don't know whether it's going to where it's going to go from here but that's all i was trying to do was to show them these fractals and that's nothing more than the fractals that ben wan mandelbrot talked about he's the father of fractals you know garly did it too he didn't know it was a fractal but he knew the lightning bolt also known as guess what boys and girls ab equals cd and that's the one for me i keep it as simple as possible maybe a little bit too simple but you know complexity is trumped by simplicity and simplicity is the key thing that you want to be worried about in these markets because there's a lot of different ways to skin a cat and our ways to watch abcds and when they fail we move on to something else here is one in silver i wanted to bring this to your attention because we went sharply higher here in silver now this is several days old several days old and the reason why we were bringing this up is because you'll notice here this was the time where we were looking to be a buyer there was the i believe where was it we were right about uh we were looking for the market to come down to this level which it did but it didn't do it until that uh thursday and of course then it gave us these moves up here and that took us to above we hit twenty six ten today in the silver and then it backed off you know considerably so i was trying to show different things of different things they were of different commodity stocks ETFs and in a you know period of two and a half hours they would have kept me there another two and a half hours if they hadn't run us out of the room it would have been would have been interesting to look at but the one that i spent most time on was this chart of microsoft brought softy up because they were all talking about uh you know this uh this AI artificial intelligence stuff and whether i do it in the writings and i said i don't even know how to spell it a little bit but these were the abcd as you can see the first one perfect abcd and we also i i made them count the time between the a and the b leg to see that it was exactly equal in the a and there's a cd leg and they they they've not seen this before and then this one comes down like this and i brought a little bit of fibonacci in at that point and said when we get up here to this price level around 304 that this is probably going to be it well it hit 309 and i my trade was going to be i said you know selling around that 304 or better and or better today you would have been filled at 90 excuse me 30306 with a stop at 310 and so that's what i've been looking at and your price objective all i did on the price objective was measure what this swing did and i just moved it over to here and that gave you a 4 to 1 risk reward ratio that's what i brought in the picture of the old slot machine that i always talk about you know that when on slot machine it says right on the front of it you have no chance of beating me long term and i've taken in $1.2 million more than i've given out well when you're trading you're the slot machine you get to determine when you want to play and when you want to turn the machine off because you have to determine how much you're going to risk and that's what it's all about it's how much money you risk not how much money you make there's nothing you can do but there could be another announcement on artificial intelligence and this can think it opened $20 higher tomorrow and you could be a loser but there's control that you don't have any control over that's why the stop is in there but even with that you'll have times where you will get whacked because of an announcement that it just comes right out of the blue COVID something like that SAR something like that you know a piece in your crane anything could happen to make some of these things do that but if you look at this Microsoft chart folks this is the only gap this is one of the bigger stocks in the Dow look at this thing this doggone thing is just way up here and left a huge gap that's when the earnings came out and that is had to have a gap to get it up there but there's a lot of people buying up in here now if this market rolls over and if this market rolls over then that's when you want to be really interesting in selling it short because all the people that bought it over the last four or five days not going to be happy just like you know some of these people that stayed in those banking stocks for a long time but remember folks it's I'm going to say it one more time because it's what you live by it's not how much money you make folks it's how much money you don't lose because you're going to win if you eventually you're going to eventually find some good ones there's no question about it but if you lose all your money before that time you don't get to play the game too often so let's remind ourselves of that okay Mike Moore is going to be coming back for another segment when we get back from this but I wanted to bring one other one that is getting ready for a pretty good sale hold on one second if I can get it up here and that is the British pound and I want to hold on we'll get this right up here this is a long-term weekly but you know we've had this tremendous rally here and you talk about medical problems over there my guys the nurses are on strike they're the ambulance drivers are on strike I mean even if you die over there they're not going to pick you up I mean they're really serious about that kind of stuff at least here they'll pick you up and take you where you're supposed to be at least I hope that's where they're going to go but if we can get up here to this 127 level we're at 125 right now that's going to be really interesting one to do because we didn't stop very much at the 50 percent we backed off a little bit couldn't make a 382 retracement here on this low from that one and so we want to be watching this one really closely but right now the dollar has bottom the euro has topped and we're going to find out what it's going to have on the downside and that's where the pedal meets the metal and we're going to find out how we do it here's one that we've been waiting for acting really beautiful we we've been talking about it from the bullish side and today it is also strong moving up with the risk on stuff you'll see that we're probably heading up to that 139 level at least 138-139 in the dollar yen and that's pretty good hey let's take a break<PHONE_NUMBER> stay tuned for Mike Moore more analytics the gold report as a precious metal gold is still king it continues to hold the most effective safe haven and hedging properties across the global major trading hubs of the london otc market the us futures market and the shanghai gold exchange the gold report tom obrien publishes his weekly gold report every monday morning for subscribers consisting of coverage of the xau hui gdx the dollar bonds the south 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information just click the think or swim banner on the front page of tfnn.com okay we're back folks and we've got mike more and more analytics on the line mike would you please continue yes sir thank you very much very thanks for having me okay let's take the uh let's do the s and p and then if you get a chance um we'll do the bonds and then we also want to do gold too and i'll be back in about 30 seconds i've got to do something with data because i've lost data and i've got to get it back so please continue and i'll be back in 30 seconds okay so looking at the s and p here uh just as a backup we held exhaustion above at 41 98 and quarter we rolled over 129.5 that was holding this exhaustion right here and rolling all the over down here now we had a target a little bit lower uh at 40 61 75 and we came just shy of that with the 40 68 75 low since we've taken out this high we did not make that target that suggests that this run up here is a last leg in the move up from uh 38 39 and a quarter and so i said this morning that i would be aware of key exhaustion areas above at 4205 75 to 33 and a quarter and 42 78 and a quarter to 40 to 90 75 and higher and you can see we are currently holding this lower one right here i'll blow this up a little bit for you you can see we held this at 4206 with a 4206 and a quarter high we're starting to roll over so we settle back down below this high 41 98 and a quarter that could start us into a bearish correction in earnest and that would be if if if one of these exhaustion levels holds the bearish correction should exceed 136.75 points now i've broken this exhaustion level up into two levels it's basically from 4206 i said to 42 33 and a quarter and then the next area is up up in here anyway so that if we do hold this we start rolling over we could see that level of a correction all right let's take a look at the gold the gold has been chopping around pretty hard lately just in this chop zone and most recently we broke them below a line that came through here which had taken off the chart we only saw some pressure here we pulled up to it here at pressure again and then we pop back above it and then we rolled back over so now we're in between two key lines one down below and one above which i would probably redraw right now just like this um like that but this is going to come over here so that upper one comes in at uh 2016 80 this morning minus 0.3 of a tick per hour starting at um that was eight o'clock this morning it's a little bit lower right now i'll tell you where it is those two lines come in right now at around uh 2015 10 to 2016 50 and decent break above there we'd probably project this upward at least 25 dollars uh to the upside and if we break below this lower line decently that would project this downward at least 25 to the downside so really just in this zone and uh looking to break out of it uh on some level i do think that overall we held exhaustion here rolled over we may hold one of these are these corrective exhaustion levels down here but i still think we do have one more uh significant push to the upside and that is also demonstrated by well let me just show you the weekly charts so in these weekly charts i do think we have a push back up through these highs here and we have not seen that yet and those highs are 20 89 20 etc and then we may hit one of these exhaustion levels up there but in the meantime we might see a short term correction before resuming another higher trade okay and then we'll take a quick look at the bitcoin the bitcoin we held exhaustion up here let me pull this over for you but we were in a lower time frame bearish correction against to move up from uh 19 5 20 i said the minimum target from 31 200 was 28 5 35 which we took out and then we held exhaustion down here below in this uh zone and bounced that was the 27 265 to 26 7 35 area we held that with the 26 980 low and bounced 3070 and so now we're in between two different formations so i said decent trade above 29 654 minus 5 per hour uh we'll project this upward 1200 minimum 2500 plus maximum and decent trade below 27 335 uh plus 1 per hour starting at 60 and we'll project this downward 2225 minimum 4200 plus maximum so and this is also a fairly sizable bearish formation so this really could just push this down for a number of days likewise if we were to take that formation out decently on the downside and back up through it decently i'd be out of all shorts i'd be long and then looking for a run possibly to take out the highs and keep on going not that it would be projected up there but the likelihood is much greater we take out this smaller formation here that's would have the the projections that i just just talked about okay larry does anybody have any questions believer in blockchains and bitcoin or do you have an opinion don't have a strong opinion that's just like mine i have no idea what they're talking about on that stuff but all right oh by the way i want to mention folks if you're looking for a great commodity broker mike and i use the same broker out of chicago and if you have an interest uh you know contact mike and he'll give him the name but uh he's uh bill is as good as it gets and he's been around a long time and he certainly helps mike a lot so uh he's a great person to work with please continue bill i mean mike sorry well i was going to say though i do it goes to whether i'm a believer in bitcoin futures or whatever or not i do think that they move toward a general currency worldwide is likely yeah just the way that everything's going interestingly and interestingly enough it talks specifically about that in the bible which was written 2000 plus years ago or whatever it actually speaks specifically to that which is kind of interesting that we're just whether or not you want to believe in that or not it's interesting that we're actually seeing that technology come to play right as we speak anyway so do you have any questions on the uh gold or the s&p or bitcoin or no i got a question about the thing in the bible i you know i'm a i'm a bible person what part of the bible is that in well it does say revelation that in the end uh if you do not receive this mark that you will not be able to buy or sell well you mean the triple six right and how how could how could one person be in control of whether or not other people are able to buy or sell unless they were in control of one way or that makes sense yeah i think it'd be a good way of washing all the drug money because they're not going to be able to spend it if it's worthless that's for sure well that's the way they're going to sell it to us yeah yeah that sounds like the right idea hey we'll take a break we'll be right back with mike more and more analytics sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you have to practice sure but you also need excellent instruction from experts at tfnn you'll get advice and guidance 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important too so let's do the the crude oil complex first sure absolutely okay so again on 327 we left a um excuse me back up trade below 8088 as brought in 695 of pressure and then the moderate bearish reversal above is also brought in 575 of pressure from 7405 we also held exhaustion within that with the 7907 high and rolled over 514 then i said i'd be aware of possible exhaustion to contend with on the way down at 7397 to 312 by the way just for those of you viewing you can have two different types of exhaustion you can have extension exhaustion and you can have corrective exhaustion and these are the two different exhaustions that i'm usually alternating in between i do believe that since we left that significant moderate bearish reversal above i think that that could bring in continued further trade lower but within that on lower time frames you have the structure downward which may complete somewhere down in here see a correction up in here before rolling over does that make sense yes yeah it sure does okay and looking at the cracks down in here the cracks are what helps you identify which of these markets you should be short okay so for instance in the heating wall crack i said that the trade below 3859 projected this downward 110 minimum 365 plus maximum we've attained 1592 ticks so that's a far so um just for anybody following that that means basically being short the well you wouldn't have been short the heat the whole time but even in just this part down in here you would have made 12 grand more per lot being short the heat than you would have the crude oil so that's why to fluff to fluff over these spreads would be a gigantic mistake if you're trading the energies because they they they put out such a wealth of knowledge of how to make far more money trading the energies with your risk relatively being the same and the unleaded gas here too set up for a team we left a moderate bearish reversal above that wanted pressure for days we've seen 374 ticks and for those of you that don't understand the 374 ticks in a crack 374 ticks is the financial equivalent of 374 ticks in crude oil or three dollars and seventy four cents so it would be uh yeah three three thousand seven hundred forty dollars per contract and that's still projected to the downside so you're looking both of these cracks to decide um what what is weakest relative to the crude so here you know that the heat is weak relative to the crude because that's the front part of the contract you know that our bob is weak relative our bob being another word for unleaded gasoline is weak relative to the crude also and then you go back above and you look at this spread between the our bob and the heat to see which of those is the weakest and lately our bob has been stronger than the heat so that means if you line all these up the heat should be the weakest the our bob would be in the middle and the crude would be the strongest relative to the other products that's not direction that's not directional um and just this is one here right so anyway you want to go to did you want to look into the our bob itself and see yes i would because i i'm i'm not familiar with the gasoline contract as much as i am heating oil and the crude and from my i would like to hear your input on that if you don't mind okay yeah so the gasoline we held exhaustion at 282 86 high and rolled over 35.54 cents so far into a medium time frame bearish correction or trend against the move up from 232 and if any of you really want to understand what that means financially um you can just take that and go 35 54 times 0.42 and that'll give you the amount of crude ticks that that move us to the downside so we've seen $14,920 of a move from here down does that make sense yeah because the gasoline is is priced per gallon whereas the crude oil is priced per barrel and there's 42 gallons per barrel so you just take whatever that figure is and times it by 0.42 right now we're popping up above this formation right here which suggests we'll probably see some strength um and likewise a failure back down below that would warrant a renewed pressure probably to take out these lows and seek out some of these exhaustion levels down below um and the heating oil uh that was the one i i said was really leading the downside really seeing a lot of pressure in here and now we've been holding under this really key area right in here that i talked a little bit about earlier that comes in here at 238 20 to 239 88 and we have not been able to get above there yet described up to 239 43 yesterday looks like we're trying to push up against it again today but if we got back above there and settled above there that would warrant a some decent shore covering probably for a couple of days that would be a warning to me to be out of all my shorts for the time being and then we would have to see where this corrects to to the upside okay my assumption is it would probably be a bullish correction on a lower time frame basis that would probably then resume a new bearish structure and if i'm wrong then it could mean that it's just a new bullish trend but the way that you play that is you'd be out of your shorts you'd be long and then you'd be taking shots at any exhaustion levels on the way up paying for the trade and then reestablishing your position if you're off does that make sense or did i yeah it makes perfect sense yeah it's once you once you read it to me like that i can understand it okay one other thing that i'd be i pay attention to is the crude oil curve so this is just the june june the june d spread this is a six month spread and we had held exhaustion up here which was one of the initial signs that that move was over it didn't show that hand in the outright but the june d stood if you go back over some of our past shows larry you'll see that i called this area and then we took up this format this formation here saw pressure and then down in here held exhaustion that was one of the first signs that the downside might be over so now i think we're in this bullish correction against this move down before slash if resume lower trade again and this is even more effective when you look at the dc spread i'm just not looking at the dc spread because it's too far out at this point you got any other questions no those are those are just pretty much spot on listen i want to thank you uh if you if you have time on friday maybe you could do a segment to see where we are because you've uh you've really had some great calls here we want to see how this unfolds for the rest of the week so maybe if you're free on friday we could have you on for for a short segment thank you all one last thing is the uh auto trade programs we're collecting interested parties on those so if anybody's interested just fill out a form and send it in appreciate it more analytics dot com yep okay we'll see you friday thanks a lot for joining my friend thank you thank you very appreciate it thank 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professional trader and educator founder of tfnn also a special guest on cnbc tom will bisect and dissect the markets the tom o'brien show next on tfnn okay we're back folks and we have a question from someone in texas austin steve we're going to take a look at ung for you um we've only got a few minutes here but we're certainly going to be able to do that in a few minutes god willing and she usually is hold on here one second we'll get this up here and that's ung i know i've got it in here because you have asked before and also other people have and i'm almost there ung and there it is i move down here to the daily we had a pretty good correction here uh oh gee this doesn't even look like it's trading compared to the natural gas that i'm looking at let's blow this up a little bit so we can see it yet we just had a nice garly form steve i'm going to draw it on here to show you because this is uh this is an etf and it's only it's uh six bucks so it just completed a really nice garly i'll bring this up so you can see it and then what i'm going to do is tomorrow i'm going to make myself a note and make sure that i put up the regular natural gas contract because this etf is um it's a well you can imagine here trading at six dollars and some it's just i don't like to do it uh well let me try it again well let me see if i can put the chart up again they're saying the charts not coming through and we're going to try it one more time get it up here and that'll see where we are here maybe this it but see it's it's only trading for six dollars and seventy nine cents and so we'll do a big one on the regular natural gas it had a big sell-off today we broke about twenty bucks i believe almost twenty dollars down from 237 down to 220 and change i believe and that uh was the first big correction we've had the last few days but i'll do an update on that i'm writing a note right now that when we get ready for this uh on tomorrow's show the very first thing we're going to do for you steve is we're going to cover the natural gas contract and try to relate it to the futures um what we look at and how it relates to un ung so i hope that helps anyway listen live every day in an attitude of gratitude and may god bless and do something nice for your neighbors folks because there's a lot of people out there uh that are having a whole lot of trouble i saw more homeless people in las vegas and i've seen


This is not about Nancy Pelosi insider trading, big oil manipulating gas prices through the media. This is about taking advantage of the sorrow, compassion, emotions from the masses. We know the people in charge of this planet are as evil and sociopathic as can be. Who else would try to benefit at the expense at the suffering of so many other people? They have to be the furthest from good as possible. Once you're reminded of this and understand that those same people control the media sources, agendas being pushed, mainstream propaganda, you start to ask a lot of questions, wonder if anything is true. And we know these scumbags are stealing our money in every which way possible. Not just gas prices, you know there's always people saying taxation is theft, but you might not have seen these stories last week. Why did BLM buy Los Angeles mansion for 5.8 million from developer friend who paid 3.1 million for it just six days earlier? Transaction raises serious questions, but founder Patrice Coolers says criticism is racist and sexist. The six-bedroom 1930s mansion in the studio-sitting neighborhood of Los Angeles was bought on October 21st 2020 for 3.1 million by a BLM-linked developer. Diane Pascal, a real estate developer who worked for the consulting firm run by BLM founder Patrice Coolers and her partner bought it from a televangelist. Six days later on October 27th, the house was bought in cash by BLM's Shell company for 5.8 million, 250% above the average price for the area. They have not explained the 2.7 million dollar discrepancy in the price and Pascal has not responded to DailyMail.com's request for comment. That's like me asking these scumbags who plagiarize my YouTube channel why they did it while they're selling two million dollars a month of BS supplements.   Even if there is an investigation they certainly won't be penalized. It's all a show and my point is after reading that and seeing where the donation money is possibly going you would be foolish to send any money to any charitable cause being pushed in mainstream media. You know I mean I'll give a homeless guy on the street five ten bucks but I would never donate to like an official charity and there is always some type of new money grabbed every few months from these people. I don't remember them off the top of my head because my brain was fried from antihistamine medication.  How much truth is there to each of these movements who is handling the money and is it being pocketed. Hochul's husband to potentially benefit big from Buffalo Stadium costing New York 850 million. Bill Hochul is senior vice president and general counsel for Delaware North the major food concessionaire at the Buffalo Bill's current Highmark Stadium. Delaware North and its employees stand to potentially benefit from another 30 years of work at the new stadium assuming the Buffalo based firm keeps the concession. All many insiders pointed out Tuesday how Bill Hochul's firm benefits from the stadium deal at a time when Governor Hochul is facing criticism that the 600 million state taxpayer subsidy for the Bill's new stadium area smacks of corporate welfare. Erie County kicks in another 250 million to pay for the new stadium with the bills kicking in the rest of the 1.4 billion dollar costs.  Obviously a bit more conspicuous than politicians like Pelosi insider trading and their disgusting manipulation of the stock market cryptocurrency all that stuff. What they didn't tell you is that all of the builders contractors for that stadium are part of the club and will be pocketing as much money as possible likely building a stadium with the cheapest material cost and labor they can find. Look I don't know much about construction but maybe it could be a drawn-out union job to spread the money between the good old boys and you know there's a reason that most builders and contractors are in the club because if you actually knew material cost labor cost how much it would actually be to build those stadiums if that was common knowledge between the masses they like hold on where that what's going on where'd my money go. You guys hear that? Sounds like some type of bird. Anyway thank you guys for joining me today if you can please drop a like on the video leave a comment down below subscribe so that YouTube can unsubscribe you next week and be sure to check that notification bell so they don't notify you of my videos therefore please check out frank-to-found.com to support me through all of my businesses you guys you guys like my bush you don't judge me crazy all these you know I'm not going to talk about New York girls and how they shave it even though it's not you know let's let's not get into that tonight that's where my heads at guys that's where my head's at thanks again for joining


I'm delighted to introduce our first speaker. Our first speaker today is Dr. David Chiedemeier. David and I were just reminiscing on when he came to the Ethic Center. I'll just give you a moment of history as part of my introduction. The Ethic Center started in late 1984 when President Hannah Gray sent me a note saying that she had approved the idea of our launching in Ethic Center. We advertised for our first fellow in the New England Journal about a month later and received a number of applications, but selected one fellow, John Le Puma, John raise your hand as our first fellow, and John started in July of 1985. We had four fellows. One was John Le Puma, who stayed on as David says for a year of remediation, and then John Lantos, who's here, David Chiedemeier, who'll be our speaker, and Abby Zugar, Abby who's writing for the New York Times on medicine and ethics and humanities, wonderful group. And out of that experience, John Le Puma and David Chiedemeier became lifelong friends and writing partners in quite a number of projects, including the one I referred to yesterday, the book on ethics consultation, which came out in 1993, somewhere like that, yes. So it's a nice history. David Chiedemeier currently is a physician at the Theta Clark Palliative Care Program and a community associate in the Medical College of Wisconsin Medical Humanities Program. The title of David's talk today, and I'm looking forward to it with eager anticipation, is the following. Just Me and My Harp, Lessons from a Lifetime of Ethics and Palliative Care Consultation and Harmonica Playing. David, it's a pleasure to welcome you back. Thanks so much. Thanks, Mark. Thanks. Thanks so much. First thing you must learn when you play the harmonica is that a little goes a long way. Sometimes you need to be quiet. And as musicians say, rest. They mean, of course, rest and listen, rest and wait. The next thing is really to learn the limits of your instrument, the notes you can play and the notes you can't. For example, the blues harp is missing almost half the notes in its three octave range. Listen to the notes available as I go up the instrument from bottom to top. I'm going to breathe out and then in in each of the 10 holes, just a standard harmonica you can get at the store. Mind the gaps. Lots of missing notes. Also, oddly, two of the notes are the same. Also, oddly, at holes 7 through 10, unlike holes 1 through 6, the exhale notes are higher than the inhale notes. Hope you noticed that. Really makes it hard.  Now, you can find more notes with experience. For example, you can learn to bend. And I'm still learning to coax out more notes. The expert in the world actually can get all the notes on this harp by overblowing and overbending as well as bending. And that's Howard Levy out of Joliet, Illinois can play the entire chromatic scale with that harmonica. I'm also learning to coax out more notes in my medical work. For example, a woman in the ICU with COPD has said that she wants to stop the ventilator. The problem is she's afraid of knocking on heaven's door. I mean, she has mouthed and written the following words in a sideways scroll on the clipboard. I don't want to be a burden. I don't want to die today. I echo it back.  And that's called call and response in the harmonica world. You just echo it back. And she looks around at us, her husband, her son, her oldest granddaughter, her nurse. And then a really odd thing happens. I kind of count on these kind of things to happen when you're doing call and response. You're just waiting. And then the nurse says to her, do you want to go to be with God again? Again, such an odd thing to say when you think about it. Again? But somehow it's the right question. It seems somehow to help the woman. It's a question about going home. And she nods her head, yes. I mean, success often depends on good timing in this call and response. Listen to the patient. Don't step on their vocals. And also don't play another instrument here when the nurse hears our soloist. Don't play over their solo. So I will take this person off the ventilator. Maybe tomorrow or the next day, not today. I'm now seeing a patient with dementia. And I always ask people, my really only mental status question is, what are you watching on TV? He looks up uncertain. These are hard consults because he can still talk, just a word or two. He can still eat. He's holding the food in his mouth.  His family wants him to get up and walk around. But I have the opposite advice. Stay in your easy chair. As always, Dylan has the best words. His song is, clouds so swift, rain won't lift, gate won't close, railings froze.  You ain't going nowhere. Whoa, are you going to fly down in the easy chair? Oh, and for this one, the trick is you have to use a different harp than everybody else. Remember, it's hard to play a different song if you start just like everybody else. You might even want to use a minor tuned harp. I mean, dementia is that bad. So I recommend a completely different approach. What's there not to do? Let's not attempt resuscitation. Don't re-hospitalize him except for trauma or bleeding. Stop doing tests. Stop trying to make him better. He ain't going nowhere. You know, like a tambourine player, as a harp player, it's best not to take yourself too seriously. Anybody can do it. I wouldn't pay it any mind. It's just a ragged clown of an instrument. So you can use your hands to make those wah-wah sounds. They're really funny. So the tambourine man, he hears the train coming, but chugging in the whistle of the train. Chugging, that reminds me of a man who's fallen off his bar stool after chugging too much beer and he's broken his neck. The man's now paralyzed and he has a severe head injury.  His family's in shock because, let's face it, he had told his wife he was just going out for a couple of beers. Like the song says, take me on a trip upon your magic swirling ship. My senses have been stripped. My hands can't feel to grip. My toes too numb to step. Wait only for my boot heels to be wandering. I'm ready to go anywhere. I'm ready for to fade. Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way. I promise to go under it. So all I can put in the chart is this patient is dying a natural death. And I chuckle, sadly I really do. It's not aimed at anyone. I meant to write a natural Wisconsin death. In Wisconsin, we're like hobbits.  So I give the man a couple hours head start with morphine and adivan and a scopolamine patch. And then I take him off the ventilator. His family members cry at the bedside.  So it is that I find myself smiling at a young man and woman when they step onto the hospital elevator. They've just been released from the OB ward. And I see that they have a newborn curly-haired baby tucked in the car seat. Such long, curly hobbit hair. A future Wisconsinite. The door opens and they walk out with me, the ragged clown quietly skipping behind. How much to practice the harmonica? How much to practice medicine? Never enough. Every day. You need to practice your tongue slaps and bends so you're ready for the mighty quinn. You also need to practice your octaves and chords because chords help you at family meetings. You can listen to the many voices, all somehow related to each other. And practicing these songs teaches you that it's not necessary to sound exactly like the legends. No one else is Bob Dylan. What's important is that you play with the same spirit. So I try to keep all this in mind when I come to see the young man in the ICU. He was one of six naked people. But we're in an SUV when it tipped over and it cast them all out into a different spot on the freeway. I suppose they were thinking when they're driving along without their clothes on, what could possibly go wrong? So the person I'm seeing has multiple facial fractures, an open skull fracture with brain substance leaking from his nose, a dislocated ankle, and a penile de-gloving injury. And as much as all of that hurts, he also has no insurance. He's not yet a US citizen. I learned from his family that he's a good cook. He's in excellent shape. He fancies himself the most handsome of his brothers. He's always feared mutilation. In Mexico, he refused to watch the machete movies because he said he would never want even a little cut. He wanted to be a personal trainer at a major gym. I start the consult by trying to determine my starting note. It's Mark Siegler taught us. Medical indications, patient preferences, quality of life, external factors. Different modes interact differently in each case. External factors, that shouldn't be my first thought. I want to choose another start for this sad song. I meet with the family several times. I join in meetings with docs, nurses, care managers, chaplains, members of the ethics committee. Everybody is talking. Everyone has something to say except his mother. She does not speak to the translator or to us. She murmurs only inaudible single words. She's tiny, respectful, meek, silent. A lot of red tape was cut to get her here from Mexico and she can only stay for a few more days. After the surgeon has given a particularly eloquent discussion of her son's injuries, at her last meeting of the week, she finally turns to me with her question. Will I be able to stay here for the end of my son? Sad-eyed lady of the lowlands, I don't know what to say. I'm the clown, I'm the sad-eyed prophet. The room is quiet, everyone looks to me to answer this unanswerably sad question. What mode should I play in? Maybe the first position, it starts on the tonic note, it's mild and comfortable. Dylan played in this almost all the time, this basic first mode, served him well. This is the medical indications mode. Or maybe the second mode, somehow it's like a person's voice, expressive, personal. This is the patient preferences mode. Or maybe the third mode, it works for immigrant music, sad, doleful ballads. This is the quality of life mode. Or maybe the fourth classic sad minor song. Once in a while Dylan used this all along the watch tower. This is the external factors mode. Well, I make my decision. I mean, I wanna start in the first position medical indications, but I also weave in a little bit of the third and fourth because it seems to need that too. I mean, this is a complicated song. I breathe in, simple as playing the harmonica, breathe from the diaphragm, breathe deep and focus on getting just that right tone. I mean, I feel as if I'm up on the stage, just me and my harp. I'm playing to his mother and I remember his devastating injuries. I remember hearing the ventilator breathing in and out for him. I hear his mother's quiet voice, the simplicity of her question, the start of the song that she's just played for her son. I breathe out. I answer the brother's question, which was, when will you stop the ventilator? But I'm speaking to his mother. Now I say, now and then we wait.


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Hey everyone back here live in Austin at the Linux Foundation open source summit, you know, we've had a very security heavy Line up this past week and for good reason security is top of mind here with everyone the open SSF Of course Monday was open SSF day, but it's been more than that More than Monday. We really talked a lot about software supply chains and S bombs and just securing open source software my next my next guest is Crob Crob or C Rob. No, no, you know, I had C Rob in my mind and that's what messed me up. Let's go back to Crob Excuse me. That's sick. Just had a little thing in my throat. So Crob Crob was actually the emcee of Open SSF day on Monday. I had an amazing hat You did and you didn't wear it here. I came from outside with tacos and it was all sweaty. Now. We just have two bald guys here Anyway safety and numbers. Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. We're the hat next time But anyway, um, first of all Crob, welcome man. Thank you. It's wonderful to be here I'm excited to have this little chat. We are excited to have you on here So before we jump into Monday and open SSF day in that whole thing You you're with intel. I am full disclosure. What what do you do in your day job? So my day job I am the director of security communications So primarily our function is as incidents happen So there's a new vulnerability discovered or researchers find some report on our portfolio I help kind of evaluate that and kind of determine how we're going to communicate it love it and Your role within open SSF. So I've been with the open SSF for over two years almost from the beginning and Currently I am the working group lead for the developer best practices working group Love it and the vulnerability disclosures working group I'm I sit on the technical advisory committee. So we help kind of shape steer the strategy for the foundation I'm on the public policy and government affairs committee And I'm just now the owner of two brand new SIGs Special interest groups underneath the working groups. So I'm in charge of the education SIG And the open source cert SIG. So we're going to create a p-cert for open source. That's beautiful, man Um That is really and let's talk about that cert. Yeah, that'll be through linux foundation. Yeah, we are still So back in may the the foundation and some Contributors created the mobilization plan. I'm sure people have talked about it this week a 10-point plan right addressing trying to help respond to things like the white house executive order and it's a Plan that says these 10 different work streams. We feel we can improve the security posture of open source software and The open source cert was stream 5 and the idea is to try to find a collection of experts From around the industry that understand how to do incident response And also understand how to get things fixed within open source communities So we're we have our first meeting for the SIG the first week of july And we're going to try to refine the initial plan and kind of spec it out And see how we want to react But I think it ultimately it's going to be Kind of a mentorship program for upstream communities to teach them how to do incident response You know and help them you know work with security researchers and reporters And also help make sure that you know, they've got tools and process in place so they can be successful I love it. Yeah It is but let's be honest. This is this is a piece of work you cut out for yourself here Yes, I'm one of my other groups I work with is a group called first The form of incident response and security teams And I'm one of the authors of the p-cert services framework So I have a little help so I understand how then roll back on that right So we're going to lean into that as kind of a model to start with And kind of see what we need to change to make it work for open source communities I actually love that good then when when do you think we might see something on this? No, no pressure No pressure definitely The meetings will be public So all of that will go up into youtube So you'll be able to observe kind of the progress of the group. I expect we're going to take Uh, probably at least a month to refine the current plan and submit a proposal back to the governing board We think this is actionable. So hopefully before the end of the year Maybe uh late fall will actually be able to start taking action. I love it. I love it Um, I got to ask you where's the name come from? So the name comes from, uh Novel group wise I'm that old. Yeah. So back in the day our network was run by an hp vax But our email system plugged into the vax and you were limited by the characters of your your name So my name, uh, chris robinson is so his first letter first letter first name Uh, next seven of your last so I ended up being crowbin zoe And we hired a developer that walked in and he looked at it and he's like, uh crowbin zoe the crowbin crowbin zone that got shortened to crowb Okay, very cool. So thank you. No, no crowb. That's right. Thank you. Novel is right Man, those were interesting days. Remember that's good. I love that stuff. I used to love. I was a novella engineer for many years That's when certs really meant something if you were certified novella engineer, man you were Where are they now? Oh, they're gone I think the last time I was out in utah And now I was out. I think it was 2005 I was out in utah. They were doing there was something they were working on They bought susie and we thought that that would be pretty amazing to kind of incorporate This is no, no, it's an amazing tools. Absolutely. So we thought that would be pretty awesome And then you know my nds was the best But we were hoping that you know through susie They'd be able to channel these tools and kind of get broader adoption. No, I I I think for whatever reason the By luck there's a lot of companies from back in those days, right that we think about indeed. Uh-huh. I um Yeah, anyway So my other working group so we have more but wait there's more we have more So the developer best practices working group is spinning off an education sing So a lot of the conference this week is talking about how we need to get more training and certification And education into the hands of developers So again, we've created another kind of tiger team where we're going to be focusing on this and my friend dr. David wheeler David a wheeler david a wheeler He had a big announcement where we have an existing body of material the uh, lennon the uh, secure coding fundamentals class and he was able to Transform that into scorn. So now that anybody has a scorn learning management system has the ability to leverage this free developers secure software training Really? Yes And that's the scorn system if you have scorn you could leverage this free. Yeah, there's some rules behind it But yeah, absolutely. It's plugged in. We're looking to get that donated to higher education Historically black colleges and universities Yeah trade schools like devry trying to get this everywhere into people's hands. That's that's the thing to do So that get that kind of stuff gets me really excited. I'll be honest with you You know all too often we're good in the tech industry for forming a foundation and and a sig and an advisory board But rubber meets the road when you can teach people coming up Right so they come in with the right habits Because you know, it's harder to teach the old dogs the new chicks, right? I can't I can't take the class I know the brain's full. Yeah. No, I I hear you. But no, but It's not only that look if you've been developing software for 25 years And I'm going to come and tell you well, what you're doing is wrong and I need you to start doing it this way now I'm going to make some progress because no one Wants to say I know everything and I'm not changing people don't say that But it's just almost subconsciously. It's a lot harder It definitely is and that's kind of informing our approach So we have a traditional about a 20 hours worth of traditional class material So we're looking at how we can transform that material into Things like webinars and podcasts and maybe a boot camp. So maybe next year at the open source summit We might be able to offer a training class where you walk in Take the class and walk out with a certification That would be pretty cool. And then thinking about, you know, we have a lot of different learners We have, you know, brand new students. We have people in the middle of their careers People are making career changes So we have to kind of serve all these different constituents and that's absolutely we're trying That is one of the problems Kind of the user journeys we're trying to fulfill is this i'm an existing developer. How do I Gain new skills or refine what I have Let me ask you a question. So I come from the security side of the house for years and years Nothing a man was putting the emphasis on developers developing More secure software, but shouldn't we also be developing For security people to better secure open source software And the foundation itself does have many it's multi-pronged And so to help like a practitioner We have things like our scorecard and all stars and there we have a project criticality score and actually be just There was a great session just a couple hours ago by one of my peers Jacques Chester and it was kind of a If you're a risk guy, it was kind of based off of open fair, which is a risk management methodology Kind of explaining how we can evaluate open source projects Share that information with downstream consumers and risk management teams or procurement teams and kind of give them a While quantitative assessment of this is what risks you could incur by these projects So if you have two projects that do the same thing One might have a higher or lower score will provide you the data that you could You know make your own assessment off of that make your own judgment So the the foundation is also looking at just many different avenues to get this out there focused on practitioners and developers And uh, hopefully by this kind of hydra like approach, it'll be successful. It'll stick You know what you just put as much stuff on the wall and whatever sticks sticks, man I hope so anyway. Hey crop, right? I got it, right? Yep. All right Thank you for stopping by. Thank you. So thank you for all you do, right? I mean It's a community thing. These are not paid type of gigs, right? Sure. Yeah, no and and uh, I thank you for your for your time and efforts on that. Thank you very much