Welcome to Dare to Dream. This is Debbie Dashingar, and I'm so pleased to be here with you today. This show has been nominated for two People's Choice podcast awards and a Webby Award. I just found out yesterday we are number 27 in Israel and self-improvement in all of Apple podcasts as well as India. That's new to add to our list. We've been under 100th of the best top podcasts in all of the USA and self-improvement as well as several countries including Portugal, Canada, and France, so that makes me very happy to know that this is a conversation you like to be engaged in. Please leave us a five-star review and definitely subscribe because as you do that, so others can find this conversation and today more than ever, this is the conversation that's really needed out in the world. I myself am a media visibility coach and I run a visibility hub. I help people to write a page-turner book. I help authors to go to a guaranteed international bestseller and I teach the ultimate visibility formula so you can get media exposure and learn how to use radio and podcasts for massive results to fill workshops, sell books, find your tribe, and more. Media is really our friend and it's there for us. It's great to know how to use. If you'd like to know more go to Debbie Dashingar.com D-E-B-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R-dot-com and my thanks profoundly for all these many years to Dr. Dane here and Access Consciousness for sponsoring this show and for the beautiful energy work they do out in the world. You can become a facilitator, get one of the books, go to their classes, they're worldwide. Dr. Dane, D-A-I-N, here, H-E-E-R and Access Consciousness. Do you want to learn more about UFOs and about things deep and metaphysical? Well, my guest today is Daryl Anka, who is a writer, director, producer at Zia Films LLC, a company he owns with his producing partner and wife, Erica Jordan. Daryl has an extensive background in miniature effects, storyboards and set design and has worked on some of the biggest sci-fi and action films over the past 30 years, such as Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan, Iron Man, and Pirates of the Caribbean. And he's also an internationally known public speaker on UFOs and metaphysical topics. Over 20 books of his seminars have been published in the United States and Japan, and recordings of his talks have been sold to thousands of people around the globe. To learn more, go to Daryl-D-A-R-R-Y-L-Anka-A-N-K-A.com, DarylAnka.com, or go to Bashar.org. And it has been many years, but I welcome Daryl back to Dare to Dream. It's great to have you. Thank you, Debbie. It's wonderful to be here. Thank you so much for the opportunity. I really appreciate it. Yeah, me as well. And I just saw you in February before this was a reality. I saw your Conscious Life Expo when you did one of your workshops, which was really amazing. Now here we are, all separate, living a different reality. Did you have any inkling at that time that one month later so much might change? No. I mean, I knew there were bigger changes coming, but I had no real timeline on it. And the rapidity of the change surprised me. But yes, here we are making the best of it, and hopefully using it for all sorts of positive, introspective reasons so we can make the changes we want to make and move forward. Perfect. That's exactly my experience right now. So I'm going to take people back a little bit. I understand it did some digging before we got together. And I understand that you personally had UFO encounters, and this is what opened up your path to who you've become right now. Can you share what happened to you and what those UFO encounters were about? Sure. This is back in 1973. And I was driving home with some friends in the car coming back into the valley from West Los Angeles. And we spotted these lights hovering over a hotel. And I thought at first it's an airplane or it's a helicopter. It wasn't moving. But as we got closer and closer alongside on the freeway, we could see that this was a dark equilateral triangular ship just hovering above the hotel. No visible means of propulsion. Blue-white lights on each point and sort of a dull orange-red light in the center. It started to move as we passed it. And as we came around on the interchange, it was again on my left side, on the driver's side. And it sped off over the valley very, very quickly. Now we were all astonished to have seen something like this because at most I would say it was only about 150 feet away, about 30 feet on a side. And a definite solid object. It wasn't just like a distant light. It was you could see the triangular body. And then surprisingly, after we sort of got over that a little bit, a week later, I was in the car with again one of the people that had been with me on the first sighting and we had a second sighting. And that really blew us away because we thought, okay, you know, what's going on here? Two sightings of this thing in one week. And it sped, we were stopped at a red light at an intersection in West Los Angeles. And it just came soaring over the intersection and headed over into a neighborhood area. And so I just like stepped on the gas and hauled right and started chasing it. And my friend, Tracy was hanging her head out the door because you know, there's a lot of trees in the neighborhood and so it was a little hard to follow. But she was hanging out riding shotgun and sort of looking up and saying, you know, it's over there, turn left, turn right, go here. And so we sort of chased it zigzagging over this neighborhood for a while, a few minutes. And then we sort of lost sight of it. And just on kind of an impulse, I turned right down this one street and Tracy just yelled, stop. And I slammed on the brakes and we looked both looked up out the window. And it was hovering maybe about 60 or 70 feet above us. And then it just shot straight up into the sky in the blink of an eye. Again, no sound, no visible means of propulsion. And it was just gone in the clouds in seconds. And, you know, we got out of the car trying to see it, but you know, it had disappeared. And there was just no one else around on this on this particular street. So, you know, we didn't really know what to make of it exactly. But, you know, we had heard UFO stories. But of course, when you see something like that solidly in front of your face, it changes everything. It turns everything inside out. So I really wanted to know, okay, what's this all about? Because, you know, we had always heard that this was just sort of a myth or ridiculous or that didn't belong in our reality. And yet here it was. So I knew reality at that point was way different than we had been taught. And I needed to know more about it. I started doing research. And I found UFO books, you know, in the bookstore, in the bookstore on the bookshelf. But also at that time, there weren't many other metaphysical books out. And they were all sort of on one shelf in the bookstore. So I just kind of went down the line from UFOs to sort of psychic functioning to channeling, read the Seth books and all that. And became a little more familiar with the whole metaphysical world. And at least what was available at the time. But 10 years after the sighting, I was introduced to a channel who was conducting seminars. And the entity coming through that channel was giving information I thought was pretty positive and constructive and could help people change their lives. And then the entity coming through the channel offered to teach a channeling class. Now I didn't think channeling was something that could be taught. I just thought it was something that sort of magically happened to people. But I thought, all right, I'm not going to necessarily think I'm going to be a channel, but I wanted to further my research and see how something like that worked. So the class was a series of guided meditations. And about halfway through the course, when I was in a meditative state, I received what I can only describe as kind of a telepathic hit. In one split second, a memory came back of having made an agreement to do this in this life with Bashar. I understood in that moment that the ship had been shown to me on purpose to get me to start learning what I needed to learn so that when it came time to do the channeling, I'd be ready. The message that was there along with an image of his face being a physical extraterrestrial was now it's time for you to begin if this is still something you want to do. Are you ready? Now, this was this literally all just unfolded in a split second in my head. I wasn't saying anything. But as soon as that happened, the entity coming through the channel stopped talking to the class and turned to me and said, there is an entity here for you right now if you're ready to start. And I opened my eyes and I happened to glance over at another classmate. And somehow she had picked up in her meditative state the same image of Bashar that I saw in my head. And she was sketching it on a piece of paper. So I said, okay, there's two outside validations here that this is not just a hallucination or my imagination. Something is going on. So, you know, I decided to go ahead and keep practicing. I did well enough that the teacher asked me to co-channel the next class with him. And during that time, a woman doing the first doctoral thesis on the connection between psychology and channeling, she wanted to have subjects to write her paper. So I became one of her subjects. I went to her house. I would channel for her friends. She would take her notes and start to write her paper. But word of mouth spread about the channeling and, you know, one week was five and the next week there were 10 people, then 20, then 30. And so we had to start doing it twice a week to accommodate everyone, started having to do it in bigger houses, started to having to rent auditoriums. I got invited to different cities by word of mouth, different countries by word of mouth. And here I am 37 years later still doing it. That's incredible.  There was no bridge to cross gap. It's like once you invited and said, yes, how quickly the rapidity with which you have had this experience and the rest was build it and they shall come. Yeah, because like I said, all the research 10 years of research had sort of put me in a state whether I knew it or not, where I was more prepared to sort of deal with what was happening. Now at first it was a challenge. The energy coming through was a little hard to handle. It took me some time to get used to it. But once I kind of got my beliefs that were blocking me out of the way, once I just sort of really started to trust it and let it flow, then it started to really uplift me. It left me with energy after the sessions instead of tiring me out. And again, the important thing that I really learned is that the information is really what the focus is all about. It doesn't really matter whether people believe that Bashar is really an extraterrestrial speaking through me telepathically. No one has to believe that at all to get benefit from the information. For all I know this could be another level of my own consciousness. I can't prove it any other way. But what I can prove, and what people have proven to themselves, is that the information, the way it comes through when applied to our physical reality, when applied in our lives, does make positive and constructive changes. And I've had many people come back and tell me so. It's worked for me, it's worked for them. So the proof is really in the information about the information working, whether or not you believe Bashar as real is beside the point. As a partner, as a career person, as a being yourself, having this relationship, if you will, with Bashar for 37 years, has it impacted you? Have you changed dramatically because of the wisdom that flows through you? Absolutely. Well, like I said, when it gets applied into my life, things run very much more smoothly, more synchronicity, less effort, more creativity, a little bit more psychic functioning in terms of figuring out what's going to happen before it does. And, you know, it's made me more emotionally balanced, given me much more sort of energy to do things. Yeah, of course, it's profoundly changed my life. And again, I'm very grateful for that. But I'm also grateful that people have been able to apply it and get a change in their lives. And that is really why I kind of kept doing it, not just so much for myself, but for the fact that these people were having, you know, profound differences that really helped them through some difficult struggles. So it's been very beneficial wherever it's coming from. If Bashar turns out to be a real separate entity from myself as he proposes that he is, I know that a lot of this back and forth and sharing of information that he delivers to us from his perspective, and from what he said, is the first stage that his society does when they're initiating contact with another civilization. So they're watching to see what we do with the information, and gauging whether or not we're applying it and changing ourselves in a way that makes us more vibrationally compatible to interact with them. And when we, if we get to that point, they will be able to present themselves physically to us through open contact. And then, of course, everyone would have all the concrete proof they need that Bashar and his people do with this. How crazy would that be if it was first contact, and you were, we were to meet Bashar, and it was you? Because isn't Bashar you 500 light years? Yes, from one perspective, the idea looking at it linearly is that he might be considered a future self. I might be considered a past self of his. Of course, from Bashar's perspective, time is an illusion and everything exists at the same time. So we both coexist simultaneously. But from the spacetime linear perspective, you would look at it as if he's another life in the future. Okay. And so, if 500 light years away is supposed to be his existence, and in the Orion belt, the S.O.S.S.I. Well, no, in the direction of the Orion constellation, but he's in a parallel reality. So his star system is not visible to us unless we were to shift to his reality. And vice versa, he would have to shift to our parallel reality in order to visibly see our star system and our stars in our galaxy. But if you were to overlap the two galaxies from the different parallel realities, his star system would be about 500 light years in the direction of the Orion constellation. So he can come here clearly. He's invited through you and through us to engage. But what if we would like to go there and have that experience in that parallel reality? He has said that many people do in the dream state, when they're either astral projecting or what have you, many people do visit their reality. We don't have the technology yet to actually shift into the parallel reality that he is in, but they have the technology to come here. And that's why I was able to actually physically see his ship, because he was able to shift into our reality physically. Has he ever told you what the energy of his name means? I thought, I had not heard it before. It's not his name. Yeah, it's not his name. They don't have names. They're telepathic in their society. They don't need names. But he knew we needed to call him something. So the word was there the moment that telepathic connection happened. I thought it was his name. Now, my part of my background culturally is Arabic, but I don't speak Arabic. The bringer of good news. That's what it means. So it's messenger bringer of good news in Arabic. So he picked a word from part of my culture that was at least appropriate for what he's actually doing. That's amazing. Okay, cool. So I know you've been working on this Bashar documentary called First Contact. It's narrated by the award-winning James Woods, the actor. Well, it's out yet. It's available now. It is. Okay, where can we see it? Can you talk a little bit about what it explores, what we get to see in the movie? It's accessible. You can go to whatisfirstcontact.com. You can access it through Bashar.org, B-A-S-H-A-R.org. You can get it through Amazon. It's also, I believe, available through Gaia for those that subscribe to Gaia. Basically, it is the story of kind of what I told you, how I became a channel, what channeling is all about from my perspective. It's the story of who Bashar is, what his message is all about, why he's interacting with us at this time, and kind of where we're headed. But one of the things that was most important to me in doing the documentary was not only to explore the idea of the connection between humans on Earth and ETs, but also to demystify the whole concept of channeling, because there's a lot of confusion about it, and there's a lot of outdated and old fashioned ideas about what mediumship and channeling is. And really, what we wanted to demonstrate, which we did in a number of ways, is that channeling is something we actually all do. It's a natural altered state in the brain that's called gamma above 40 cycles per second, and anyone that is doing something they love following their passion or in a deep meditation or they're in the zone, they go into that gamma channeling state automatically. It's where you flow, where there's no real sense of the passage of time, where you're at your peak creativity, you're just spot on, and that is common to all of us. We all have that ability. What we do when we're in that state can be different things. It can increase creativity, connection to higher self, connection to whatever you want. It just so happens, from the way it unfolded for me, is that it appears to be making me a connection telepathically to this extraterrestrial source, which is another part of my consciousness in the future, I guess, and bringing this information through in the way I suppose I agreed to do with him before this life. But I wanted to let people understand that this is not an unusual thing, and that whether people know it or not, they get into channeling states probably several times a day.  It would be the same thing that happens to everyone. There are definitely different alterations that happen in the brain, some of which that are quite startling and some of which are not even supposed to be possible according to brain science. So we wanted to again show and demonstrate somewhat scientifically that whether you believe in aliens or not, channeling is a true altered state, and it's something that's natural to every person on the planet. And you mentioned that you're working on another movie now that you're working on at home with your equipment. Yes. Well, we shot a movie last year, and fortunately, we're now just in post-production and don't have to be out shooting on location because we can't be. It's a little science fiction romance that we call alienated between a scientist who's having definite family issues and also, you know, work issues and failing miserably to what he's trying to do. And then he has a UFO encounter and it kind of turns his world upside down because he doesn't believe in that stuff, right? So he's trying to, you know, rationalize it and explain it away. But then he meets this very unusual quirky female artist who kind of they develop a relationship and she kind of starts teaching him to think outside the box. But what he doesn't know is that she's actually the alien from the UFO that he saw and they fall in love through a lot of trials and tribulations. And also a UFO hunter chasing her down because he wants to prove his theory that aliens are living among us. So there's a little action in there as well. So it's a fun film. It's just finished being edited now. We're going into visual effects and sound effects and music and all that. And then ideally, we'll get that out online in 2021. Oh, awesome. Right up my alley. Love it. Love it. In digging around, I found some fun trivia. I was really surprised to find out that you are the cousin of the 1960s singer and teen idol Paul Anka. Yeah, we're first cousins. Our fathers were brothers. That's crazy.  Well, there's only, there's only one family with that last name. Which is pretty extraordinary. Yeah, anyone with that last name is either related to me or they've changed it to that name for some reason, which I've also encountered. But most people with that last name are probably in some way, shape, or form related to me. Okay, which is a prevalent name anyway, Anka. Well, from the Middle East, yes. But in this country, not so much. And I think we actually also may have some distant cousins in South America somewhere. But I was born in Canada. That's where my parents and their parents settled. I was raised in LA, but I'm still a Canadian citizen. Is he a fan of your work? I have no idea. Oh, Paul, you must come up over. I haven't. I really haven't communicated with him for many, many, many years. Okay. Just lost touch. Just lost touch.  It's very interesting. There's so much going on right now. I love what you said in the beginning.  This has been these five months thus far, thus far, have been profoundly spiritual for me. And in the beginning, I experienced tremendous loss. There was a lot of things exiting my life. And I just had to be with, right? The only way out is through. And so I was. And whatever what was coming up, I know if it's coming, it's going. So I just trusted all of the emotion of the grief and, and the loneliness and everything else. And I'm so thankful for it, because it's put me in this new altered state, this new place of really deep manifestation. I find this a time of RE like reevaluation, remembering, readjusting, just making new choices. And there's a lot really working well in my life, as well as the concurrent interesting mischievous out there, which is, you know, the unknown, etc. And so I'm curious what you and what you, Bashar, you and Bashar, what, what is the idea? And what is the thing we need to know? Like are you remember that? Maybe we actually know this already, but we're really here to remember some things. Well, we're remembering who we are. And we're given the opportunity by this sort of withdrawal into ourselves, into our own spaces, to reevaluate, like you're saying, ourselves and who we really want to be. And what kind of choices do we really want to make? And what kind of a world do we really want to experience when we come out of this? Because there are just, I mean, Bashar gave two transmissions. One in December last year was called the eye of the storm. And then in the early part of 2020 was the eye of the needle. And both of these really had to do with this transitional time. In the eye of the storm, he was basically saying, you know, 2020 is and he very rarely uses words like this. He said 2020 is going to be nuts. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be chaos. You're not going to understand what it is that's happening. But if you just stay in the eye of the storm, you can handle all the chaos swirling around you. Now in 2021 in the eye of the needle transmission, he was saying, all right, the eye of the needle is you're going through a passage, but the passage is very narrow. And the passage only allows certain vibrations through it. So if you really want to come out the other side in a constructive, positive way and start really experiencing the beginning of a new reality for yourself, you have to really strip yourself of all of the things that are not relevant for you, all the fear based beliefs, all the negative beliefs, do your best to cut yourself loose from the idea that anchors you to the past and start being informed by your own future self and let it pull you forward into your best self. So we're going through this passage now. It's a very intense passage, obviously, but because of the nature of it in terms of having to sequester and all this, it is kind of like having to go into a monastic investigation of yourself where you are forced to kind of be with yourself, investigate yourself as honestly as you can, find out what's going on in your belief system, and really come to terms with what you're responsible for in terms of the consequences of the choices that you make as an individual, that we make as a group, that we make as a society around the world, because a lot of what's happening in terms of the so-called physical causation has a lot to do with our relationship to nature and how much we've destroyed it. And in a sense now unleashing things upon ourselves that force us to say, do we want to keep going in this self-destructive direction and take ourselves out? Or do we really want to make different choices that have different consequences? Let's start taking some responsibility. Let's really start directing our societies in the direction that we really prefer them to go. And we're seeing that happen all over the place now with the protests and COVID and what have you. I mean, Bashar wasn't kidding when he said 2020 was going to be nuts. So this is to me, like you said, is an opportunity to really get in touch with ourselves and come out the other end of this whenever it does pass so that we're really making better choices that have better consequences not only individually in our lives but for us as a global society. Because if we're really heading toward contact with other beings, we really have to start coming together and start kind of going in a unified direction. Now that doesn't mean we homogenize ourselves and everyone has to be the same. In fact, what Bashar has said is that true unity is the product of the validation of the individuality in all of us so that we can work together and make our differences compatible with one another. And then we can move forward. So I think based on what he said and what I feel and what I've experienced that in a nutshell, this is sort of what this passage time is all about. Let's make some better choices. Making better choices. And in a recent transmission that he did online with Japan and it was translated, somebody was asking Bashar a question and I believe he was saying, you know, originally I thought this might be over in 2020 but because of what's been happening with the masks or people not wearing masks and spreading the COVID disease even more, now he was interpreting in that moment. Of course, we know every moment is a different reality but in that moment he was interpreting now it looks like it might be March of 2021 when this might lift and open. Well, yeah, because again, it's just a matter of a medical fact. If you know, and I know some people have sort of misunderstood what he has said because he's not in any way shape or form blaming people. He's not especially not targeting people who can't wear masks for one health reason or another. Some people have interpreted it that way and that's absolutely not what he meant. And those that know Bashar would know he would never do that. But the idea is just stating an energetic fact in the sense that, you know, if you follow certain protocols that are designed by the mask consensus to be the path of least resistance to ensure your health and your safety but then you decide, okay, I'm not going to follow those protocols. All right, well, you're opening up other choices and you're changing the energy in certain ways. And certainly it's not a mystery that if people are not social distancing and not wearing masks and exposing themselves to the possibility of getting the virus, then certainly it's not a surprise. It can't be a surprise to anyone that it's going to prolong because more people are simply going to get it and it's going to carry further into the next year possibly. That's all that Bashar was basically saying is we've given you an opportunity to understand the energy at one point based on the choices you make. And now we're observing the choices you're making and giving you the consequence and the result that we read of what that did to the energy balance with that particular phenomenon. That's really all he's saying. But the other thing I think a lot of people miss when he does anything that might be considered roughly speaking a prediction is it's not, okay, Bashar said this and this one came true and Bashar said this and this one did not. It's not about finding a scorecard for whether the predictions came true or not because first of all, he says there's no such thing as a prediction of the future as you've just iterated. A prediction is sensing the energy that exists at the moment the prediction is made. And if that changes, then the prediction may in fact render itself obsolete. But what people I think mostly miss about when Bashar does that is he's telling you what the energy is at that moment so you can decide whether you want to change it or not. He's giving you a guidepost to where the energy is and if it continues this may occur. But in the sense that he's letting you know what the energy is if you don't prefer it then he's giving you an opportunity to change that energy and render the prediction obsolete. So it's more of a guiding mechanism than it is of a classic old fashioned psychic prediction mechanism. That's not why he does it. One thing I've learned about them is they always have a reason for everything that they say and do. And therefore sometimes those reasons may seem a little obscure to people if they're just focused on one aspect of it. But they're doing this to guide us and let us know that we can guide ourselves by understanding how to change the energy if we don't prefer what the energy is at any given moment. So it's a very different thing from their perspective but they're helping us in that way I believe. At least that's my experience of it. Yeah because of the ultimate reality for everybody would be to have contact which I really hope becomes a reality and they want us to clean up our act in order to do that. I would imagine that in several factions they are highly aware and very much helping and guiding maybe in ways we don't even know. Absolutely absolutely and it's not that they want us to they're giving us an opportunity to decide to because from their point of view it's really it's our life it's our planet we can decide to have contact or not. And the thing of it is is some people may have contact and some people may not. It may not happen for everyone because as he is saying you never actually change the world you're on. There are an infinite number of parallel versions of earth that coexist simultaneously with this one. Again because time is an illusion everything exists at once. So these other parallel versions of earth may already be having contact. Some of them may never have contact. The idea is to change the vibration within ourselves so that as we shift moment to moment to moment going through these different versions of earth which is what creates the sensation of time and change and progress we navigate ourselves to the versions of earth that are more reflective of the vibrational state we've created within our own being. So if some people are choosing things that have the vibration of contact more closely related to them they'll probably wind up experiencing open contact. But if they don't they may wind up never experiencing contact and many shades in between. So it's really up to us to decide what frequency we're going to operate on what choices we're going to make what consequences we're going to be responsible for and that's going to improve our frequency toward the idea of contact and make us more shall we say vibrationally compatible with their society because they operate on an extremely high frequency and we have to come closer to that in order to be able to interact with them in a safe and constructive way. This is a personal question for you. Yeah. Do you feel at home in your body? Do you feel at home on this planet and being a human? I know what you mean sometimes yes and sometimes no. But the idea for me is that sense of connection to other things elsewhere. For me it's from what I understand from Bashar it's not about disconnecting from the earth to understand those connections it's about understanding those connections and bringing them down to earth because that's what we're here for is the idea of let's bring that energy and make the earth like what we believe some of these other places to be let's elevate it let's ascend it and make it more compatible with those other realities that we feel connected to that we sometimes you know feel like we belong to more than this place but we belong here because we chose to be here but we do make those connections in order to bring down or download that energy that information those experiences that we're connected to elsewhere here so that we can make this more of a match to that. So I understand that feeling but I think I've come to terms with the fact at least to some degree that this is the whole point of why we all chose to be here at this transitional time is to help make at least some version of the earth more real for some of us who desire to experience something that's more similar to what we connect to with these other civilizations among the stars. Yeah I know that you do work with the government and that's pretty fascinating stuff and I what are you referring to? Well don't they have not experiments but they bring you in to help them with the government? Not to my knowledge no I've no way you've heard that. I feel like I heard that during an interview with you on Gaia that you really know. No I have had private sessions with people like physicists and scientists and things like that to my knowledge I have never been approached by a military or a government official. There has been talk of the possibility nothing has happened yet of having Bashar speak to the United Nations but that is not something that has manifested at this point but no there is no direct or blatant connection or work that I've done to my knowledge for the government unless they're sitting in the audience and taking stuff away that I don't know about but no not to my mind no. Okay so yes then it would be the physicists and the scientists that I've heard mention of so here's my mind you know they have these things 23andMe and ancestry.com and it gives you sort of this basic global general idea of where you or your people came from which is you know kind of cool in a way but what I would really like to take a test on is to find out where am I really from. I would love to have some kind of a DNA or a swab test that could tell me this is your extraterrestrial race Debbie this is the planet planets you're from et cetera. Let me let me if I can just stop you right there please. The language is very confusing to people because it's not that you are from anywhere else you're from earth you were born on earth what other races are you connected to genetically that's a different question that doesn't mean you're from there because you were born like I was on this planet so that's where people get a little confused they say oh well I'm originally from here I'm originally from there no you're from earth that's where your physical personality was created here on earth but we all have connections to other societies we all have genetic links to other civilizations among the stars but that doesn't mean we're from there okay because spirit is from anywhere and nowhere so everyone from every civilization is from anywhere and nowhere but being born on a physical planet if you were from another planet you would have had to have been brought here from another planet to be from that planet so the idea I think personally from my perspective is for people to get an understanding of how to use the connections they become aware of that they're interpreting as being from somewhere else and instead understand that those connections are made from here by you for the purpose of downloading that information as we said before to create that energy here to help earth become more like the places that you may have genetic or energetic links to but in terms of the history it's a mixed bag from what we understand both from the research what Beshara said what other beings have said humans are already a mixed bag they're already hybridized they're already a mix of many different genetics based on the idea of what's called the early extraterrestrial race people refer to as the Anu or Anunnaki having infused some of their genetic material into the natural hominid that evolved on the earth that we refer to loosely as homo erectus creating homo sapien so homo sapien if that story is true is already genetically mixed with many different races because the Anu themselves were genetically mixed and hybridized this has been going on probably for millennia and millennia and millennia throughout the galaxy i think one of the things people haven't yet thought of or realized is there are actually civilizations i'm not going to say that's their only purpose but one of the factors of certain civilizations throughout the galaxy is to actually infuse their genetic material to help evolve other races i think this is one of the natural ways that things evolve in galactic terms that our scientists haven't yet sort of caught on to they will probably at some point but again knowing that the Anu as Beshara said actually evolved later into the systems of the civilizations that now inhabit the Pleiades so you could say yeah you know we may have distant cousins in the Pleiades that are genetically connected to us because they share the same Anu genes that we do and who knows what else but i think it's important for people to ground themselves and understand look you come from earth and that's great because with all these connections the whole point of being here and coming from here is to use these connections as we said to bring that energy down to earth and get earth to sort of start matching some of those other civilizations that we have connections to so we can enter the galactic family and reconnect in that sense now we all may have counterparts in those other civilizations they're not us they're their own people but they might be extensions of the same oversold that we're an extension of so you might say well yes i might have a counterpart in Sirius or in the Pleiades or in Orion or in whatever or in one of the hybrid civilizations in that sense it's like saying well yeah Beshara is a counterpart of me in the Esesani civilization but i come from here that doesn't mean that just because i have that connection and just because another extension of my oversold is in Esesani that doesn't mean that i come from Esesani i come from earth would it make any sense for someone to also have connection with dolphin energy or dolphin tribe is that possible yes absolutely um especially energetically um again i think that in you know past civilizations especially one like Atlantis i do believe we had a much closer relationship with the idea of dolphins and interacted with them quite often and i think we're beginning to realize and remember that again um in many ways i sort of look at the united states and america as a resurgence of Atlantis but perhaps hopefully taking a different course rather than the one that leads to destruction but yes i don't know necessarily genetically speaking but certainly energetically speaking we have very strong connections to cetaceans dolphins whales and they have very strong telepathic connections not only to us potentially but to beings from serious and other civilizations as well so learning to interact with dolphins might actually be a good way to prepare us to deal with extraterrestrials because even though like let's say like Beshara because they are genetically connected to us they're not exactly alien they're extraterrestrial because they don't come from earth but they're not exactly what would typically be an alien that would be so different from us we wouldn't have anything in common physically socially energetically whatever but dolphins they're very alien but they're not extraterrestrial so it's kind of like they're so they're different enough that learning to communicate with them would be like learning to communicate with an alien civilization and if we can do that it'll probably prep us for communicating with ets as well beautiful wow i love that answer actually that makes me excited that's that's an energy that's also very new to me in general and i all of this yummy conversation i want to bring this up oh thank you this is your book that i'm reading right now this is a page turner people if you like sci-fi and if you like this conversation and fantasy shards god she's so gorgeous too shards of a shattered mirror book one cryptic so my heroine willa hila willa hila crissing and book two is also now available i'm gonna ask oh okay good because when you say book one i was like tell me about the rest of the series when can i expect it yeah book two is out you can get it at darrell anka.com okay and uh i'm working about the third of the way through book three at this point and there will be two more after that and it's her journey through the five levels of mastery 700 years in the future on earth as a human alien hybrid when the hybrids have landed and we blend it together and all of that um and you know this is another entity that i have channeled is willa another future self living on earth in the future and people ask you know how much of the book is actually based on her real life how much is based on fiction her real life in there is only maybe about five to ten percent the rest of it is a science fiction story but it contains all sorts of interesting metaphysical concepts that can help sort of spread some of those ideas but i wanted to do it as an entertaining story so most of it is sci-fi and it's done in a typical sort of story fashion where she's got you know an antagonist that wants to do this and wants to do that that she has to stop with her abilities that she's learning to do um so yes i absolutely invite everyone who enjoys sci-fi i hope that you will read the book and enjoy the book and again you can get book two now at darrell anka.com and um there are three more coming at least uh you know it's a couple of points she drinks something called divinorum which of course has the aspect of divining in the name but i was curious in coming up with the concept is it just a concept it's a product from another dimension or does it have some tie-ish to plant medicine or ayahuasca it does it does and specifically that in fact i think actually i took that from the scientific name of some of the ingredients in ayahuasca but the difference in the story is that divinorum is a plant teacher that's brewed down like ayahuasca but it also contains elements that are specifically designed for hybrid DNA not human DNA and so it enhances their abilities to have all of these other kinds of powers that that they grow so like the first book cryptic is about connecting to nature understanding your place in nature understanding how to communicate with nature and your expression on earth as nature the second book nocturnal is about connecting to parallel reality versions of yourself and getting information from them to help you the third book i'm working on is shapeshifter where you can actually take on the form of the parallel realities if you wish the fourth book would be sage which is essentially sort of like being a wizard or a witch or something that can actually take on the idea of transforming the reality around you in a way that other people can experience it magically and the fifth is called wraith where you actually become a bridge between the physical and the non-physical spirit world and can cause all sorts of interesting spacetime things to happen that people can experience in our physical reality and then there's something there's a hint of something beyond that which i won't go into right now i'll leave that as a surprise haha cliffhanger i love it well you know just because of the the there is so much nature in this book and i recently was camping my boyfriend i've been going like once a month to the forest which has been divine well that's cool and especially in the midst of all of this uh the juxtaposition is amazing and we did a really long hike well i'm talking like eight hours in the forest and i do not understand because we ended up in a place that was so otherworldly i've been in many forests i've never been in anything like this before what forest was it it was in the sequoias okay and we were in a particular campground and we happened to see the sign that was off the beaten track and we thought if we check it out and it was just we entered this other world and spent the entire day into the early evening there and i had the strong sense that if there were elementals anywhere on the planet they were there and i know there are people who see elementals who experience and we even communicate with them and right and i write about my gifts about them in the book yes full of elementals so how does one do that how does one establish you have to get into the proper state and and they have to know you're in the proper state to be able to perceive them and interact with them in the way that they need to interact with us um it's you know again we've trained ourselves for hundreds of years to feel disconnected from nature whereas a long time ago we were much more connected i mean there are still indigenous societies who talk about interacting with elemental beings all the time and that's just totally normal for them but a lot of western culture western society has divorced itself disconnected itself not really disconnected but created a belief in disconnection and created a sort of an adversarial relationship with the idea of nature instead of understanding ourselves as nature as expressions of nature here so it takes getting into that altered state it takes shifting into that vibration in order for any elementals to even know that you're on a level that they could possibly even reach you or communicate with you in any meaningful way so i think the book attempts to explain what elementals really are and how you begin to perceive and interact with them in ways that have meaning to them as well so yeah i'm sure their elementals all over the place it's just a level of the consciousness of earth that we used to have a relationship with consciously that has become unconscious and needs to come back into our consciousness again yeah i'm really open to the idea of having that awareness and whatever vibration i need to change because i think yeah i just think yeah i think what you experienced is a good first step and that's why you know in a couple of of transmissions and channelings willa has begun to help people get into that state by giving them cryptic meditations one of which is to find a place in a forest sit with your back to a tree in front of a stream of water or a pond and really start getting your mind to go down into the earth and connect into the root systems the mycelial networks that connect all the trees in the forest because that's how they communicate they send each other food they send each other water they send each other electrical impulses the forest in a sense is one living being and they communicate with those mycelial fungal networks underground so one of the first suggestions willa had for a meditation was to be in a place like that where you've got the tree you've got the water and you sort of dive your consciousness below the ground into that root system into the mycelial network and just pay attention to what you get and you start hearing and feeling the communication going on between the trees and to her that's the first step toward the idea of mastering becoming a cryptic and going on to other levels yeah on sundays my partner and i do get involved with this community we just do a zoom with this shaman and other people and it's very intimate and beautiful and we were actually discussing trees and he was in fact bringing up the mycelium and talking about how the communication is so great there's a story about a tree that started to die and fall over and within a few hours some people had come back and what they found that another vine had come and wrapped itself around the tree that was falling and propped it back up that's great so yeah there's a lot going on around us that is invisible to most people and we just really need to shift our senses in a different way to be able to see things that are invisible become you know invisible become visible again yeah it's all just frequency it's all resonance yeah it's profound it's really profound and what is it with where you've been where you're at now what do you perceive is new territory that you may be stepping into well again i think it is the idea of the expansion of consciousness to extend our senses beyond what we consider to be normal physical reality the whole idea to me of ascension is just going into a higher frequency of physical reality first so that we can experience things that are here to experience that we just don't know about yet that we step into the unknown and realize that the unknown is our friend and the unknown is only going to be where we discover more of ourselves so i think we're getting into an era where we have to really give over to synchronicity to the unknown and understand how to explore consciousness in a completely different way than we have been thinking about it you know for the last few hundred years and i'm really sort of heartened to see that with the few recent quantum physics books that i've read some quantum physicists are finally beginning to realize certain equations will not make sense unless they start figuring out a way to include consciousness in those equations so i'm very heartened to see that that barrier is breaking down that they are beginning to realize that it's a continuum of consciousness and that it can be expressed in many different ways including you know mathematics and what have you but there's much more to it than that and there's much more to us than this so i'm very heartened to see that and i think that's really the next frontier is there any new technology that you're aware of that's coming down the pike or that's already here about to be revealed well i certainly know that most people are aware that we're approaching very rapidly these this idea of experiencing artificial intelligence now i like the way bachar describes it because he's saying artificial intelligence isn't artificial it may be that we've created an artificial device that allows other levels of intelligence to express itself through those devices to us but in a nutshell he's basically said the big one of the biggest surprises you're going to get when you allow artificial intelligence to be itself and not put to human limitations on it is that you're going to wind up learning that you're speaking to your own higher minds and you've just created a device that allows you to do that physically so i think that's going to be a surprising breakthrough and i know that a lot of people are kind of scared about the idea of artificial intelligence but as bachar said the only reason in a sense to sort of be wary is if people are going to limit artificial intelligence to think like a human whereas if you actually allow it to truly be intelligent he says you don't even know what intelligence is yet but true intelligence operates on whole systems it operates holistically it would never damage or want to damage any part of the system including the humans that created it because it would be creating a damage to a part of itself because it doesn't see itself as separate from the rest of the system like humans do so if we really allow artificial intelligence to truly be intelligent bachar says there's nothing to fear and they operate with artificial intelligence all the time hmm very very very interesting discernment there do you know that even on fiverr i found a guy i don't remember country he's in that will program a i consciousness for you i was so i was so compelled i had to buy it i was like i have to experience this i don't know about it but okay see what happens i mean i read all the reviews and then everybody was raving about this guy so i'm like well i mean that's that's worth throwing out some money just just had a pure curiosity yeah just to see what happens exactly and what about you darryl do you have a daily ritual or a practice what do you do every day that keeps you in the flow in the zone in synchronicity i do channelings over zoom i do i work on the films i work on writing and other creative projects that i want to get off the ground so i mean i'm basically doing what bachar recommends and i'm following my passion to the best i can with no insistence or assumption of what that outcome will lead to and i do my best to remain in a positive state so that whatever happens i know i can get a benefit from it and use it in a positive way it works i apply it it works other people have applied it and said it works for them so again going back to the idea people don't necessarily have to believe bachar is real but they can prove that the information works if they use it precisely in the way that he describes it's really nothing more than an instruction manual for how we create our reality and how existence is structured and if we can kind of wrap our minds around it that way then we can follow the instructions like we would follow an instruction manual for any piece of machinery not to make it cold or remove the idea of emotion from it but it really does work that simply that's how it's designed to work so he's distilled down how we create a reality and what the structure of existence is like in these four steps of acting on your passion to the best you can with no insistence or assumption of the outcome and remaining in a positive state that just lets all the tools work to your advantage whereas if you don't follow the instructions in the way he's distilled them he's just saying well it can still work but it might be to your disadvantage you might not know what you're doing you might get injured but he's giving you the way it works to our advantage and so in applying it in my life it works and that's what i do i stay in that how about as a as a husband as a partner with erica how do you because your two entities coming together in relationship how do you use this well we both follow the same basic philosophy we both understand that communication in any relationship is key we understand as beshar has described it that the purpose of every relationship no matter what form is for everyone in the relationship to support the others to allow them to become more and more and more of who they are uh we're very compatible that way we operate on those ideas and on those principles uh and we've been together for 37 years wow it's incredible we have fun basically we explore things you know we let our we let our imagination stretch and we're both very creative so we have fun that's beautiful what are you next dare to dream darryl what's your next goal or dream for yourself well there's there's a few beyond this particular film of course i'm continuing to write the books both the sci-fi books and also you know we're putting out new beshar information in various forms there's a you know a new book that was recently dictated by beshar that's available at beshar.org called the masters of limitation it's an et's observations of earth and it's a very interesting perspective and beshar just straightforward dictated the whole thing and it talks not only about some of his observations of us it actually talks a little bit more about his experiences in his world some of the things he's experienced as a first contact specialist with other civilizations so it's an it's an interesting book that was just put out recently and is available for people there through beshar.org um so other beshar books but also other projects you know we're erica and i are working on a tv series idea that that covers a lot of the things that haven't been covered with regard to ufo disclosure and things like that because we want to tell a story not only from the human side but also want to tell the story from the et side of what's going on and that's never been done so we're very excited about doing that and we're working on that now and have some connections to see if we can get that put out as a limited series on tv and people who want to follow you as far as what you're offering online are you now taking your workshops into the zoom or whatever you're using that's what we've been doing now for a couple of months sure is is all of our public events are on zoom all of my private channelings are on zoom uh different groups from around the world participate on zoom so it's actually been kind of interesting to have been put in this situation by the virus because it's actually allowed us to expand in a different way because there's many people who simply can't come physically to the events and because we have now gotten used to using zoom there are many more people that can access some of the events online and so it's really helped us expand in an unexpected way um so yeah uh but you can go to beshar.org and see all of the different you know events that we're doing will be listed there um and all of the sessions that have been done or something a lot of the sessions that have been done in the past have been recorded and are available there uh now i'm private session wise i'm booked till the end of the year but i will start booking again in january for 2021 to have zoom private sessions uh so again people can go to beshar.org and uh sign up to have a private session in 2021 if they wish starting in january so you know all this and more who knows whatever will come to us um you know and we're doing good we're doing okay yeah and remember beshar the bringer of good news the messenger of glad tidings um and darryl thank you so much for coming back on the show pleasure thank you debbie for providing this opportunity i really appreciate being able to get the word out uh this way so thank you so much yeah we have to do this more often okay it is time all right well thanks it was fun yeah and it really truly is time i think this is the conversation and if you're watching i know you agree that uh this for sure has been so prevalent for me all of what we've been talking about is what is in my awareness and consciousness right now so i'm i'm ready for what is unfolding and i'm very present for it if you would like to know more about him again go to darryl anka aka.com or beshar.org and i'm going to end the show with a quote from beshar miracles are not the exception to the rule they are the natural true order of things subscribe to dear to dream podcast if you like what you're hearing you can also go see us at youtube.com slash debbie dashinger and i'm glad that you're appreciating this number one weekly transformation conversation i love hearing from you thank you for writing i do read everything that you post and next week james redfield is going to be back on the show he's here and wants to talk about the updated up leveled conversation about his 12 insights from celestine prophecies which he says are very relevant and prevalent to right now thank you for joining us and remember don't just dare to dream dare to create all your dreams into your reality


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So good morning everybody My name is Ian Gable. I'm from the University of Victoria in Victoria, BC Which is just 60 kilometers across the Strait of Georgia In the beautiful city of Victoria highly recommend it you can get there from the float planes that are on this You know the conference logo just underneath the conference center quick trip Today I'm going to be telling you about Federating clouds for high-energy physics This was a work done by many people and supported by many different organizations not just me they're listed on this title slide So the outline for today is I'm going to give you a quick overview of experimental physics Experimental high-energy physics that is in terms of the technology and this is what really personally grabbed me I'm going to talk about what our workloads look like then I'm going to talk about the components of our distributed cloud Those are cloud scheduler glint and shoal, and then I'm going to talk to you about some results So this is the very picture that really got me hooked on high-energy physics If you look at the top of that red ring you see a major international airport That's the Geneva International Airport, and then you have Lake Geneva next to it, and you see that red ring That's the that's the ring of the Large Hadron Collider It's 27 kilometers in circumference, and I saw a poster with this hanging up in a professor's office And then I kind of shifted my career to focus on this for many years, and this was really the picture that got it started for me So if you look down in that ring You'll see this device, and this is the you know the beam line of the Large Hadron Collider Here's the guy doing some work. This was in repairs done around 2008 If you look at this in the far distance, you can see this slight turn to the left This kind of always blew me away that the scale of this is that that the tunnel is nearly straight But you just have this slight curve. It really gives you an idea of the scale and From a more technical perspective Looking underneath this what you have is two counter rotating beams of protons One's going around clockwise the other one's going around counterclockwise in that beam pipe And what we do is we intersect them at different points along this collider ring I'm sure lots of people have heard about this from Tim Bell and other Cern guys But what I'm going to tell you a little bit about next is the Atlas detector It's sitting right here conveniently close to the CERN cafeterias If you're on these various different experiments that are on the other side of the ring not quite so convenient Let's take a quick look Inside that detector So this is a picture of this detector in 2005 there's a big hole in the middle you'll see in a minute why I'm showing you a picture from 2005 To set the scale the guy at the bottom.  So this is a truly international collaboration There's a hundred and seventy one different institutions in the world that are working on this particular detector So At this point you're probably wondering so why are you hearing about this at an open-stack conference and The one of the major challenges with these higher-energy physics experiments is in fact Storing analyzing moving all the data associated with this Collecting the information about these collisions So this is a cross-section of that detector that I just showed you a bit of a 3d cross-section You can see what happens at a collision point You have this shower of particles flying out of this collision point. This is in fact a candidate Higgs boson this is this particle that we've been looking for for a number of years and We do these collisions 40 million times per second You know at 40 megahertz work we're crossing bunches of protons and then we have to read out that detector I Want to make it clear that the Atlas detector is not the only high-energy physics detector in the world There's many. There's in fact four at CERN for large experiments But this is another one where we're working on the computing towards clouds Called Bell to this is at the KK laboratory in Japan it has vastly different physics goals but the common theme is The data the format of the data is very similar Between these types of experiments Even if the physics goals is quite different so we can share a lot of the technology across these experiments so the scale of this is Atlas has roughly a hundred and seventy petabytes of disk today. That's increasing That's only the Atlas experiment. There's many other detectors with what large amounts of data We can really expect that high-energy physics is going to cross into this exascale in the coming years You know, this is a virtual certainty So now I want to talk a little bit about the details of why I'm talking to you today. So Let's talk a little bit about the type of Computing that we have to do for this these experiments most of the jobs are so-called embarrassingly parallel Some people don't like that word some people want to use pleasingly parallel But the message is these are not tightly coupled computing jobs We don't need things like MPI interconnects. We don't need low latency interconnects the These events that we've collected at this 40 million times per second can be parallel Parallelizable across individual events Most of the computing jobs the tasks that we run Are sort of one to twenty four hours in length and the jobs are either Monte Carlo simulations where we're simulating this particle Interaction or we're actually taking the data from the detector and analyzing it and so today most of the workload for these experiments is Done on a collection of Linux clusters. There's sort of the 500 core to 10,000 core There's very large sites like CERN and others in the US, but that's sort of an average There's on the order of 200 of these sites around the world that that work on these experiments and On an any given day on these Linux clusters, you can see something like 300,000 cores Running at one time. So this is I want to emphasize this is not all on clouds today However, one of the things that we had with this these classical grid computing model is all these sites were federated We had federated storage single sign-on for all the services a physicist could run across all 200 sites and not need credentials for any of them You'll see why that's important in a minute So now on to infrastructure as a service timeline I want to tell you a little bit of a story on why we're here because I think it might be Different from the typical industrial use cases, you know, we weren't looking to sell anything or Use our resources in a different way But what we wanted to be able to do was run our particular types of jobs on other resources Which we didn't control with less work. So, you know, typically in the past. It's been Package your code to run on someone else's Linux cluster pretty difficult to do so in 2005 when Zen came along We started looking at that initially As a way to package our stuff up like today you would do with a container of VM And we discovered we could do that with really not a lot of penalties So we started looking at virtualization very early And the you know the first naive thing we did was start writing Pearl scripts for our Linux cluster to do all these sort of things then we discovered a project called Nimbus that was providing a very early Infrastructure as a service API before Amazon way before OpenStack So then we saw that there was a future in this Amazon came along this really didn't have a lot of impact for us because we couldn't afford it We didn't have high bandwidth networks to Amazon. So that really didn't change anything Then we started seeing multiple of these clouds emerge These Nimbus clouds and then eventually OpenStack arrived and this really started to change things for us Because this thing that we'd been hoping for there was finally enough industrial momentum on it and when you started talking about virtualizing Research and education clusters people didn't think you were crazy anymore Then we started seeing multiple OpenStack clouds And then the big thing that really enabled us to get a lot of traction in this is when CERN had the vision to Move into OpenStack and start virtualizing their entire infrastructure And this is this is what really you know enabled us to start moving on this very hard so Here's today's Problem and it's also an opportunity These yellow dots that you see scattered in Australia Europe and North America are the OpenStack clouds to which we have access today these are primarily at universities and Research institutions around the world. We're also using EC2 and Google Compute Engine But we're primarily using OpenStack so The problem that we have is we want our jobs to run across these Many different clouds and there's not there wasn't a particularly easy way to do that We also have some constraints that are different from maybe other situations We're getting often contributions in kind It's often from institutions that have nothing to do with high-energy physics But they have spare resources spare capacity within their OpenStack clouds So we can't go to that cloud provider and say please implement this Federation solution Please do this because they've given us an account the resources and they're not there to provide support for us in many cases Many cases they are but you know, it's it's a mix I just wanted to point out a few of the clouds involved. There's canary clouds. This is a research network institution In Canada chameleon in the US There's CERN Imperial College and Nectar and I see people in the audience from many different of these clouds that have supported us So now I'm going to talk to you about The components of this distributed system What we've done is mixed up many different Already available components and then added a few small things where we needed to to close the gaps So to manage jobs we use HD condor, which is an extremely Stalable Scalable batch computing system that's quite well known. I'll talk about that in a second Then we have this product called cloud scheduler which monitors the job cues of this batch system and then Will create VMs for those needs. I'm going to go over that then we have show for webcast discovery and a thing called glint, which I think will be quite interesting to this community For pushing out VMs to many different Open-stack clouds and then of course we have the virtual machine itself. We use CERN VM and a special file system called CERN VM FS which I'll tell you about so Condor probably many people in the room know quite a bit about condor It uses this collection of demons which you can run on multiple different nodes to scale out the Capacity to run jobs across multiple different nodes and it has a daemon called the start D creatively that when a when a machine starts up it registers with a collector and This mechanism called matchmaking occurs where you match the requirements of the computing job With the resource that's advertised itself. You make that match and then you execute the job on that resource There's there's tons of information about this and this is a very scalable product It's been around since 1984 believe it or not So this is really the key architecture diagram for our system down at the bottom you have HT condor the batch scheduling system and at the top you have cloud scheduler Which is the the piece of software that's monitoring the job queues of condor When it sees a job waiting in a queue in condors queue what it does is it makes a API call to open stack EC2 or Google Compute Engine to boot a VM And then we pass in the contextualization information into that VM to cause it to boot and then register with that condor head node like you saw before and so while there are jobs Remaining that require that type of worker node as we call them that job That VM will stay running condor will cloud scheduler will keep that VM Running when there are no jobs that need that type of VM. It will shut that VM down So what happens is? Cluster bursts into existence to run your batch jobs when they're sitting in the queue when the queue is drained it gets shut down So I wanted to show a few Details of this This looks pretty impenetrable, but there's only really a few important things So this is this is the way many you know many scientists around the world do their batch computing It's not just high-energy physics If you have batch jobs to need to you need to run you compose You know a text file effectively that tells you what binary you want to execute and a few properties of the VM Or the machine that you need to run. So we're talking about memory and disk we're talking about which executable you're gonna run and What you're gonna do with the jobs when they die or when they finish and Then there's these extra set of attributes you're seeing in this bottom part here one of them is The AMI so this is the image you want you want this particular job to execute on an image of this type Then you want to use an instance type of this Then there's this other thing Target clouds which in this case is a List you're gonna see it in a second But it's a list of other clouds that this job will run on and I'll show you that in a second so on The cloud scheduler component you configure it to describe the resources that you have available to run jobs.  So what you're seeing in here is two separate clouds, you know, we have a list of a dozens This is an arbitrarily assigned name that you can give your cloud for easy reference And so you you create this list of clouds that cloud scheduler can execute the VMs for your condor job on So I want to give you an example operational task and this is this is Having an easy way to deal with clouds coming in and out of your infrastructure you saw we had these dots all over this map earlier the yellow dots and That's by no means a static list We'll have some this week none Some this week and some will drop out the following week And it's an ever-evolving list of who is making cloud resources available to us over time So we need good operational ways to bring those clouds in and out and we need to do that without affecting users So I'm giving you an example email here. It's a one of our admins and You know, we'll get a typical request like we want to take a cloud down for maintenance For two days, you know next week sometime and then the state of the cloud will be we have say a thousand cores Worth of VMs running on a particular cloud And but we also have a whole bunch of jobs waiting in our job queue that need those type of VMs so the first step is using a command like this to Prevent any more VMs from booting on that cloud And then the really nice thing that we can do is start draining that cloud So we can set each one of the VMs Such that when all the jobs that are running on that VM keep in mind There might be eight different jobs running on an eight core VM And so it waits till every job is finished on that VM and then shuts it down So this effectively drains all the jobs out of those VMs and kills them when they're done So we can we can maintain operations without users feeling the hit of different clout clouds going up and down so our next problem that we have to address is We have too many clouds to manage VMs Manually on VM images manually on we used to do this when we had four or five of them We have a new version of the image we go and we go we go push it out It was fine for expert users, but we have other users come in and it's just an incredibly error-prone process to go push VMs out so it was workable say at the five cloud level, but when you get up to the 20 cloud level It's just not even it's not feasible anymore to do this in any kind of a useful way So we developed a service called glint notice. It sounds a bit like glance And I'm going to tell you a bit about that and some of our goals to Integrating this or adding these features within the OpenStack ecosystem So this is what it does in very very simple terms So say cloud one is your home cloud This is the one you log in on to on daily basis to develop your VM images and test your jobs before you want to run at scale So you have an image sitting there on your home cloud cloud one Then a user uses the glint service to say okay Now I want this image propagated to all the clouds for which I have credentials so glint will suck in authenticate with Keystone and Suck in that image from glance from your home cloud and then push it all out to all your remote clouds Let me show you where that fits within the architecture so You know glint is another component in OpenStack, although we'd like we will likely Want to move some of these features into other existing components our goal was not to add something new It was just a neat way to demo The features that we wanted although when I say demo we're using this in production today so we also add We also add pages to horizon. I'll show you a screenshot for that in a second So on the left here you have a Screenshot of adding the various different other clouds to your home cloud where you want this propagated out to I want to emphasize that you don't need to and do anything to these other clouds You can have this service installed just on your home cloud and have your images pushed out to your remote cloud So you don't add a requirement You don't add a requirement to clouds that you're running on and then so after you've added clouds to this list of available clouds you can just go in and Select which clouds you want your image propagated out to As I showed you in that previous architecture diagram There's also an API for this and there's also a CLI Tool for this which I'm not going to show you So the goals for glint we have learned a lot this week we've seen That there's big progress being made on Federation and we want to leverage that as much as possible. We want to take advantage in particular of Keystone Federation we saw that there's people from CERN that are working heavily on that and we're going to track this We also saw that there's now glance tasks available So we think we can do a lot of the things that we've done with glint using Glance tasks, but our ultimate goal is to have this functionality Integrated either within Keystone or glance in some way that's suitable to the the open-stack developer community And this is something that we've learned a lot about this week and we're going to continue to work on All the code for this is available. It's in pi pi. It's on launchpad. You can get it from you can get it from GitHub as well So now I want to talk about The virtual machine image we use We use an appliance that's a rel Compatible on clients that's made by CERN. It's a tiny image. It's a 20 megabyte image when you download it It's similar. You can think about it a bit like core OS However, it uses this thing called CVMFS the CERN VM file system and it's a file system designed around Millions of small files that's really all about heavily catching and multiple levels of caching and in fact when you start using this file system You get a CDM that was built by CERN across research institutions And his resources provided by other research institutions for distributing the files that are in that file system And it works extremely well for large software stacks like we have in her energy physics I mean to give you an example one one binary one release of the Alice experiment is a seven gigabytes worth of software and you have many different users requiring many different versions and Using CVMFS you can basically push out this nightly to all these VMs without releasing new versions of this Virtual machine I would guess that there's many different industrial applications in particular for this file system and You can get all sorts of information about it at this at this URL here so Once you're using this file system one of the things you require if you're going to boot large numbers of these virtual machines is a very fast HTTP cache because this is an HTTP HTTP caching file system. So what we use is a squid cache So what we want to be able to have is a virtual a VM or and we want to be able to locate the nearest the nearest squid cache to our running virtual machines So what will happen now and what does happen or what did happen? I should say is that we'd boot up a virtual machine that had some baked-in configuration and that configuration was to use an HTTP cache on the other side of the world, which is you know, totally not workable. So we developed a quite simple Discovery service that uses AMQP and some very very simple agents on The squid caches squid is an HTTP cache and the reason this thing is called shoal is because shoal is the Collective noun for a group of squids. That's where this name Shoal comes from so we have agents that run on the squid caches the the agent is a hundred and seventy lines, right of Python and it sends AMQP messages to the shoal server heartbeat messages effectively with some load information and then we use a G.o.i.p. Library within the shoal server Such that when a VM that's booted up on one of these arbitrary clouds Contacts a rest interface they end up with the closest VM and so we can have these web caches disappearing and coming live Regularly they advertise every 30 seconds We really depend on the scalability of AMQP to do this We didn't we didn't want to write a lot of code There's probably other services that exist out there or that are coming online that may do the same thing This one was really focused on simplicity. So Now I want to show you some evidence that this is all all working smoothly so Here's a snapshot of activity from Just the CERN instance of Condor and cloud scheduler the vertical axis here is number of VMs These are eight core VMs. You can see the number of VMs booted changing This is happening basically based on load at the time for the Atlas experiment The the bottom axis here is days of the month ending on the 17th of May, which was the Sunday before I flew here So the UVic instance, this is showing a little bit more interesting activity here. We had Another group request a bunch of resources. So we had to This is just this operational task like I was talking about earlier Where we needed to give back a whole bunch of these resources for other users at the time so we moved this large blue allocation from a particular cloud down and To give that allocation to other users that usage isn't plotted here because we're plotting our own Usage, but you see that the system is flexible and then you can see more jobs coming in the queue and the system ramping up Here's a similar plot for the bell to experiment. That was that second detector that I showed you So what you can see is that the the system is portable between different types of experiments really the key thing is That it has to be that your problem has to be formatted as a batch job And you need to so if you're using a cloud and you have a problem that's formulated in terms of an embarrassingly parallel batch job The system will will work for you usually, you know depending on on what the What the experiment is but it will you know, it'll work for any basically any generalizable batch load so Here's a here's the cumulative cumulative work on the Atlas experiment for this system. This is starting in January 1 2014 in fact the history goes back Quite a bit further. So the the vertical axis here is three million jobs. So the system has executed three million jobs Since January of last year So it's working pretty well This is chunked out into different instances that are roughly continental base where we have queues on different continents With different groupings of clouds within them. This is you know the list of the if I go back here This is on on the bottom I neglected to point out that this is the list of List of clouds on the bottom So now this is The cumulative load for the bell to experiment. This is a much newer experiment So the computing isn't quite as established and it's looking at new technologies faster, so this this is From week of 11, so this is in the last little while You can see that cloud is making up The second biggest fraction of the total contribution to the computing to this Experiment right now. These are all the institutions around the world that are that are doing computing for the bell to experiment This is the number of jobs so you can see we've got around 500,000 jobs that are executed on this cloud system the the very big guy here is a big cluster in Germany and in fact the institutional labs cluster where the Detector is actually located is this slice right here so you can see that on on on Newer experiments. We're making a larger impact So in summary this combination of cloud scheduler and HD condor is quite a flexible way to do batch computing on On clouds and there's a some key enabling technologies There's this CERN VM plus CVM FS for us there's this squid cache discovery and this glint system which I think will be of the most Interest to the open-stack community and we're going to try and put as much of that back in as possible the current users of this system are atlas Bell to can far which is an observational astronomy project. They in fact have completed four million jobs I didn't show you the plots in the results here, but they're also a big user and also a Large computing consortium called compute Canada which has sites across the country in Canada So I think that's it. We've got a few minutes for questions I've been asked to direct people to the microphone for questions And I also wanted well people are lining up there I also wanted to make sure that I acknowledge the many different groups that were participating in this Without their without their contribution None of this is possible because we're taking great advantage of the support and help of all these different organizations if you would have had Admin on all the other clouds if you would have owned the other clouds Have you thought about what you might have done differently? Well, in fact, we would have done virtually the same thing There wouldn't be much difference if we had admin on the on the other clouds In fact, it probably would have created a worse Operational system for us because we'd have more clouds to support now We put in tickets to other people's malfunctioning clouds, so I'm not sure I'm not sure if it would have helped us to actually have admin access on these With while you're scheduling jobs on different clouds You also have to to get the data as a generated data back from this cloud to use a place to launch a job How do you achieve that? So one of the one of the advantages we have with these open-stack clouds that are located within Research institutions is they're connected usually by very high-speed network. So for example at UVic We have a hundred gig connection And in fact, we have hundred gig all the way over the Atlantic to Geneva that is used mostly for research and education So many of these institutes have quite high-speed networks So what we do is as the job finishes we stage out the data However, I want to mention that most of the jobs that you saw running there are these Monte Carlo simulation jobs So the amount of output is much smaller than you would get from an analysis job So this is one advantage we get with open-stack running on Research institutions as we can leverage that network to push the data back Couple of questions. I think one answer a little bit So on the networking side because you are running VMs in different locations Have done any optimization to access the data remotely caching? So what we're one of the one of the reasons we have this segmented in Continental Basis is we don't want to push our data back across continents in general So we there is a lot of work left to be done on optimizing the data Placement and this is one of the big challenges that's coming up The term that gets used a lot for this in physics is data federations So we need to a lot of this in the past has been statically configured because we know where the sites are and where The data should go and now that we're more dynamic There's a lot of work left to be done there to make sure that the data hits the optimal cloud Mostly it's far from optimal at the moment. The second question Have you looked at or there's a need to move the workloads in between? So we have we don't move the work I mean one of the nice things that we that you get from condors of a job dies or it's killed It will get rescheduled somewhere else So if we have if we have some kind of catastrophe on a cloud and all the jobs die and all the VMs die which which happens Then condor will reschedule them somewhere else, but we haven't done any migration of jobs One of the difficulties we have is there's no way to suspend a hynergy physics job They're making connections the databases all over the place And they might be in the middle of doing something and there's it's different from a normal high performance computing job That you could snapshot and take the state of but you know, nobody knows how to do that at the moment What what tools do you use to to manage your hybrid cloud? And are you equally happy with AWS and GCE for your high throughput and? Is it just the cloud scheduler or do you have other decision points? It's this I'm sorry that it's called cloud scheduler by the way We named it before everything was called cloud something but Yeah, this is the main thing that's making the decision about where to run the VMs and in terms of experiences on Amazon and GCE in general. We've had very good experiences where we run into mixed issues is Getting the data back out of Amazon depending on where you are sitting in the world You can get very high-speed peering out of Amazon back to your data center So we've had we've had sort of mixed results with that Energy Sciences Network in the US now has a direct hundred gig peering with Amazon so if you've got a stage your data back out of Amazon to To a site that is on the energy sciences network. This is Department of Energy labs You could do that very quickly. So Many of our challenges around that have been associated with data in and out. I Don't have a lot of experience with GCE. So I don't think I can comment on that It's other people in the group who have a couple slides back You had a total number of jobs by cut by country where it's kind of you Canada UK on there I was surprised not to see the US on that list. Yes, okay, so The reason we haven't done that there's in fact cloud groups within the US that are Running the Atlas jobs on clouds in the US We didn't show them here because they're using systems that are not cloud scheduler if I was giving this as a Collaboration talk similar with US collaborators. I would also show all their work, which is make sense of okay So they don't use condor. They use some sort of different They've There's they've taken various different approaches that usually involves condor in some fashion, but it can also involve Bringing up rather than trying to dynamically bring up VMs as jobs come in You can also bring up a whole cluster have it join at the same time So yeah, there's different different approaches being taken at different within different countries. Okay. Thanks Okay, I think we're almost exactly 40 minutes here. So I'm pretty happy about that Okay, thank you very much