Well, all right. Well, thanks Jeremy for joining us. Jeremy's our product manager for For the manage team so Jeremy without further ado, I'll turn things over to you and let you talk a little bit about the GitLab manage and and other things you're interested in discussing with the community members. Yeah, sounds great. Thanks a lot Ray I really appreciate it. So I'm Jeremy Watson. I'm the product manager for manager at GitLab I'm going to share my screen and chat through manage at a high level in terms of what the stage at GitLab tries to accomplish Talk through kind of the the stage itself some of our goals and priorities for this for the for the core team And then I can talk through kind of how you can help contribute in some issues that I kind of like to highlight So without further ado, I'll go ahead and share my screen So manage is interesting because it's one of the few stages here at GitLab that spans across the entire DevOps lifecycle so right now I'm looking at Inside the GitLab handbook the categories page and our part in the product section of our handbook I'm just looking at this diagram here, which kind of outlines how we think about DevOps here at GitLab So whereas you see that there's very specific stages like plan create release and configure that deal with like very specific areas Of the DevOps lifecycle, we have several stages which manages one of one of which that span the across the entire lifecycle And and that's what manages all about like manage is kind of the the foundational piece to GitLab that covers all the common components that like We that instances need to be successful as well as like the kind of high-level analytics about how your instance is performing Giving you like powerful configuration that enables you to set up your instance kind of how you want with powerful controls and analytics So I can know what's going on So that's really what manages all about it's about the Managing your instance And this is something that is that we think about in kind of two high-level goals With the team which is helping organizations really prosper and do well with the configuration analytics that they really need As well as like removing barriers to finding value and helping users really find solutions to problems like GitLab helps solve So, you know, like I mentioned manage covers like a lot of different areas it covers analytics covers configuration in the form of authentication authorization And it covers a lot of those common components that you can see here on the back to the categories page That's in this other functionality and manage and that's user management permissions projects groups profiles navigation management area so Again, you know manage covers this this wide kind of area inside the product And I want to kind of try to help that break that down for the community in terms of you know What is it that this team is working on what are our priorities and kind of how you can really help Kind of be a part of that So i'm going to flip back to the the product vision for manage So the page here that i'm looking at is the direction page that's specific to manage And i'll continue talking through this a little bit So You know the themes that we really work on and you can kind of take a look at this video here on our direction page To get a little deeper look in terms of like what we're working on Over the next, you know, three months or so Is really like helping instances operated scale Providing instances with powerful analytics security and also increasing the lovability of our product as a whole So when it comes to operating at scale, we want to try to Take and solve those problems that instances typically run into when they you know reach large large You know scale when they're dealing with hundreds and thousands of members on their instance Where things become harder to manage where you need Better coverage on our apis where automation becomes a greater need and where my annual tasks just simply start to break down So, you know, this this definitely involves better authentication better about Evolution of our apis and how we handle things like personal access tokens and application scoping And then how for ee how they managed how instances managed spending with our with our licensing model You know, we also want to really improve the way the analytics work at get lab We see that cycle analytics is an opportunity for instances to really understand kind of how their instances is operating And how faster shipping software and which is something it's tremendously relevant for core We really want to get you know Like take large steps forward in our in our analytics and the insights that we're able to deliver there As well as increase the you know the security of instances by giving them like not only better levers for Being able to enforce powerful security for their users But also being able to enforce strong access controls like at the group level So they're only able to kind of give access to specific users and entities that they want to their instance And then kind of lastly We're just interested in building on you know the overall loveability to product We don't want something that is just merely functionally complete with you know, lots of configuration that is like challenging to manage but ultimately very But like has high utility value We want to agree an unbeatable experience that ultimately like customers and users really really love So this is all you know a particular area that i'm excited about And looking to the community's help not only for their feedback in terms of like what it is that we can do to To make get lots of something that you you you really really love to stand off the rough edges and You know in the areas of territory that tend to frustrate users But also the highlights and areas in which that we can That we would love love the community's help guidance on so In terms of like what the team itself is working on The current focus That we're kind of like thinking about is really helping authentication right now get better The team the managed team Which is a team of about five back end developers and four front end developers currently working on improving authentication, especially in the form of sso We'll also start working on inactive user management and being able to manage the users on your instance and understand their activity levels better We'll also work on A better comprehensive audit logs. You understand what's going on your instance more Better access controls and then analytics improvements that I that I kind of talked to a little bit earlier Also relevance to kind of like this loveability theme is going to be our work on new onboarding Which we're excited to kind of we're starting to explore right now So how can we help users going to get started faster? on a git lab instance How can we create like a relevant smart dashboard for you so that when you hit like your instance's home page You're immediately seeing relevant information in terms of like what it is that you need to do and You know what relevant activity has taken place on the instance. It's important for you to be aware of And then and then redesigning core Experiences at git lab like the project overview page and the group in the group overview page So a lot of exciting stuff that the team is working on and we clearly have our hands full So I think that you know the priorities that we have are definitely relevant to both c e and e users and customers And I really wanted to highlight some areas that we wanted to that we think are really really important for us to Focus on in the future, but thus far. We just it's been a real challenge for us to make time for So the first one I'll kind of mention in the highlight is One thing that that's that's been a challenge for me as a product manager and for the team to kind of make time for Has been again like iterating on some of those core experiences that customers You know typically struggle with and typically affects like the use the core user experience and livability of the product And the first one I'll talk to is kind of being able to share private projects And this is like something that that customers will and users will typically struggle with because They will have a prior project on git lab.com And in order to share that with someone who's an external party They think that customer that person needs to first register for the but at git lab instance for git lab.com And then at that point the The private project can be shared with that member, but this is kind of a clumsy You know awkward workflow and generally what people want to do is they just want to be able to Generate a url Share it with different people and then have those individuals be able to use that url to view their code So we want to we want to introduce this by leveraging our existing invite flow Where you can invite an existing member of the instance to go ahead and pull them into the project But at the moment you can't do that for the users that aren't Existing members and we want to be able to extend that here. So this issue here Which I would love either feedback or contribution for Is extending that existing invite flow so that now you can invite That it that invite url is now Utilizable by any kind of by any member who is not already on the git lab instance So a project or group owner should be able to generate an invite url from the members page They should then be able to go ahead and share that with others And even if that user is not already like an existing member on that instance They should be able to use that invite url Join through a sign through our sign up flow and then immediately be added to that project or group at like a defined Membership level so this is something that like the community has been really excited about This is something we would love to get to get into git lab And we consider this like a big step forward for from being able to to make private projects more widely shareable and usable by Members so we're excited. We're excited to this one. This is one. I definitely wanted a highlight From there, there's a couple others that I'm really excited to talk about and one is pin projects One we've had a design Ready for some time that iterated on the on the profile page for users The moment like what people want to you really want to do with their profile page is they also want to use it to highlight particular projects and areas they're really excited about And the the problem is is that you can't do that right now like an external Someone who is an external viewer like clicks on your profile and you know, they see the profiles Your your profile and the projects that are in your profile Kind of sorted by by last activity, which isn't always like how we want to be able to to highlight them so We want to give users the ability to to pin certain projects by highlighting this By servicing this kind of pin object on mouse over and being able to click on that and being able to pin that That particular project to your profile so that when anyone sees clicks on your profile, they're able to see those those projects Immediately and be able to understand which projects are most important to you and which you want to highlight in your personal timeline So, um, this is one that we're very excited about Again, one of those that you know Community is excited about we think this would be a great addition to get lab But we thus far haven't been able to get to it and right now it's sitting with a with a q2 milestone And uh, and uh, you know, it's one that we're still struggling to find time for Additionally, we want to add pins to both the projects To the group's overview page So one of our designers and manager Matei has created a really really compelling future Vision for where we would like the the group's overview page to go So you can see here This is kind of the final kind of version our vision of where we'd like it to go We see as kind of the seven days overview of like what is happening in the group Like a little spark line of like the last seven days of activity on in the group And then we also have this this container here which kind of highlights some of the top projects that we want to highlight within that group These this is another area where pins really help So these are actually just pins where you can pin certain projects and certain subgroups To the overview page or to highlight their significance So, you know when a newcomer who's coming into your Organization your open source project or your or your company clicks on the group They can immediately see what what projects and which subgroups are most relevant to to whatever that group is trying to accomplish So, you know, this is something that's not always clear right now The group overview page is kind of sort of by last graded or last activity and we are it's not really clear in terms of like What the group is trying to accomplish? So we want to make that very clear And we want to be able to add pin groups and subgroups to the to the group overview page in order to make that clear in order to give a the group owner a Clear and an obvious way to kind of customize what people kind of what where you want to where you want to direct folks Whenever they are clicking and viewing on your your group overview page So adding this this is a this is a completed design. That's kind of things kind of ready and once again, you know It it it's something that we struggle to make time for and manage. So So those are the three issues that I wanted to highlight the the share private project by a url Pin projects and user overview page and then finally pins and projects and subgroups within the group overview page Really excited about all these. We really think this is going to make a great admission to get lab And we love either your contributions or your feedback in terms of how we can execute on these features and make them successful Lastly what I'm going to leave you with is kind of my favorite Is a couple two kind of words on community contributions The first is one thing that I like to do is I like to be able to sort to keep priority labels on high value and Contributions that like are very important for manage is like a stage and a team But stuff that we just haven't been able to get to and so the the query that I really love to use is is is sorting the Sorting ce by accepting merge requests p2 and manage So p2 is a label that we use at it lab to be able to signify High importance issues where p1 is like critical We have to drop everything and do it immediately down to p4, which is you know, it's a very it's a nice to have So p2 is our you know issues that are very significant Ones that we may be not having had a chance to get to yet and sorting by milestone due date So these are issues that like are open for community contributions and accepting merge requests But the milestone is kind of distant They're either in the in a future quarter or they're in the backlog or they don't have a specific milestone And these are the ones that we would either Love to focus the community's effort on in terms of feedback and how we can make you successful for you or We would welcome a community contribution to see how we can how we can get those in the get lab The second issue that I'll talk about is if you see an issue that you're excited about and that you are You know, you're excited to move forward with Feel free to signal on the issue that you're interested in it Even if the issue isn't necessarily complete or there are still open issues in the description Um, you know, I or someone else from the from the get lab team are more than happy to start moving the Answer some of those unanswered questions and move the design forward if one is needed If someone from the community is really excited about picking it up. So Um, so those are the kind of the two two two takeaways I wanted to leave you with as I uh as I shut up for here for now Which is number one, you know, this is a great way to kind of find high value community contributions to get out That we're that we'd be welcoming and then number two is, you know, even if you see an issue Regardless of the of the labels if it has accepting word requests on it Even if there are open questions, you know, feel free to to add mention me Into the issue and we can kind of discuss how we answer this question. So I'll leave it there for now, but uh, you know, I'm excited to kick the hackathon off and uh, I hope, uh, you know, you can direct any future questions about managed to me Either in get lab or by email and my contact information here On the direction page here at the top of this page. So Excited to excited to work with y'all Well, thanks, Jeremy. That was perfect you Uh, I think you like, uh, I was about to ask you a question about how people should find issues But you already addressed that so definitely appreciate that and and the first issue regarding share private project via url I think that's one of the issues that we highlighted for the hackathon. Uh, that's um, so people tackle that issue People will be eligible for the extra prize and it looked like there was some discussion this far There's even a couple of days ago So there are definitely interests from the community members, but it's still waiting for it to be picked up and hopefully somebody will be able to Tackle that and yeah, definitely appreciate your insight and not not only in terms of what What manages but what your priorities for for the rest of the year. So I'm sure yeah. Yeah. Yeah the I'm excited about the share private project issues 157 of votes Which is which is a ton. So there's clearly a lot of interest in the community and a lot of people who are really excited about this Um, and uh on the information that I just shared in this video. I think the best Uh single source of truth is going to be the managed direction page. So, um, you know all the information that I just shared in this video including the You know the the two takeaways at the end on in terms of like how to find issues And also, you know, how to kind of direct your interest if you're interested in an issue with some financial questions I'll be adding that to the to the direction page in a merge request Um, so continue to keep an eye on that page and uh, you know open a merge request If you feel like there's there's unanswered questions. We can be doing a better job at so, uh, anyone can contribute awesome, uh Yeah, so I don't think I have any questions that david. Were you was there anything else that you wanted to ask or you wanted to point out Yeah, I have a couple of questions for for jeremy. Um related to um priorities and um and um community needs as well um, so you've mentioned that uh, sometimes, uh, one of the things that you um that you use for measuring um Not measuring but having a better idea of what uh, what features are popular feature requests are popular are the thumbs up for instance so, um In the I'm asking this question in the context of um, of a couple of open source projects What I've been working with they are uh, intending to migrate to a big lab There are a few issues that are interesting to to them And they're generally on the on they are generally using githlap ce So with this context, um, if they um feel that They can contribute in raising the priority to to a particular issue What's the best way for them to do it to do it? Is it just a thumbs up or it is the matter of exposing their case on the on the issue How does it work best for you for your team to to to manage those requests and priorities? Yeah, no, I think that's a great question. So, you know, as you as you kind of Previewed it's it's a combination of everything. So thumbs up for definitely, you know, a really clear quantitative Input in terms of like how important something is to the community But I think in those cases where you you have like a large open source project that it like needs Like a couple of issues in order for it to make it to make it live a viable solution for them You know, it has to be both. It has to be both, you know, ideally a thumbs up but also a comment in the issue Specifically so that you know, the relevant product manager is aware of like their needs You know, again, you know, that doesn't mean that we're that we'll have to have the bandwidth the ability to get to things right away But I think that you know, if there is maybe two or three issues for a large open source project To make githlap viable like we we should at least be aware of it So I think the best way that I've seen is just to have, you know, someone from that project Comment on the issue, you know, at ideally at mention the relevant product manager So myself for issues that are really that have a managed label on them And then be able to You know, articulate all the issues that are that are relevant to that to the open source or You know, the the the the issue is not is not only being aware of like the issues But also the importance to that particular organization so that we have like, you know If we decide to ship one thing, you know, that's not the the end all solution We also have to ship, you know, issues these bc and b as well So, um, so, you know, in order to answer your question, it's it's both it's both the upvotes help But also I think that additional context in terms of like what the organization needs and making sure the product manager is aware And can prioritize accordingly. I think that's the key Excellent makes sense. Thank you. Um, I have another one related or somehow related And again with the same content context An open source project Requesting a feature, but this is a feature that's already implemented and it's it's on it's on e Generally, uh, when I talk to these projects, I said the expectations that we have this process for for stewardship Where it is it is possible to request a feature to be backported, but um, it's something that That requires a careful discussion as well because it implies as well that we might be losing value as as well um, what would your feedback be for such open source projects to start such a discussion to uh, to uh, to backport prior to sorry back for the feature from e to c I think it's a good question. So I think that the best Uh, I think the my recommendation will be to start an issue. Um, specifically requesting that feature be backported down to cd Um, you know, I'm like there is a some I'm just taking a quick look through our products. Um The product section of our handbook to try to find the section where we talk about moving issues to core But um, what we do In the background is You know, um, so David, like as you said, it's something that we have to be very careful about Like ultimately like moving if you like features to core is generally a one-way door We generally will you know move features down, but we will never move features up in git lab So, you know, it's very typical for us to move a feature from starter or premium or ultimately down to core But I don't recall ever in git lab us moving a feature from core to a paid tier So with that in mind it is kind of a one-way door So we want to make sure that we're doing that In a very mindful way that's that advances the stewardship of the product But also is something that that that that we're aware of at least the business value of that feature So, um, when when so again, I recommend that users can start by creating an issue in ce and trying to I'm trying to start the conversation there and making sure the relevant product manager is aware of the need And why specifically this this should be kind of in core and what problem it solves for that user And the best the best issues that I've seen kind of really articulate like this is why it's important to us Here's our workflow without it and here's what it enables us to do when we have it And that allows us to have a really clear conversation In terms of like, you know, you know allows us to see the value very easily So what we then do is, you know, it's up to the product manager to gather information internally Talk to sales to try to talk to the rest to to to git lab internally to understand like the importance of this feature To the business of ee And then, you know, we we have a we we ultimately like make a call on it as a product organization and whether or not we want to do that I mean, then we scheduled the work and then and then proceed from there But um, but that's kind of the the overall process and kind of what I recommend users do If that's something that they think is important to them in their organization and their efforts Go ahead and create an issue. We'll have a discussion about it And it helps to really understand like the why behind that request to make that a little bit of an easier process Awesome. That makes sense.  I think the why as you're saying and articulating the workflows Why do they need this feature as well? It's something that I can I can Essentially happen with Awesome And I'll just share the screen because I found this So this is articulated in our handbook under this section bringing features to lower tiers So, you know in full transparency, this is kind of the what what we do behind the scenes You know, we will take look evaluate the issue. We'll evaluate it, you know at our at our 18 level we'll create an issue describing the plan and then we'll get this We'll just gather feedback with the rest of the team and get lab, you know from the sales perspective And then we'll we'll make a decision and update the the non-continental issue Unlike why we're moving forward to the decision or not Awesome. Perfect. Thank you. All right Anything else David or Yeah, I saw that co-com just joined as well, but not sure if there are any other questions or comments Don't see anything on the chat Uh, well, Jeremy, thank you very much for your time. This recording will Be on the hackathon channel and hopefully in the next couple of hours, but thanks again for your time And uh, yeah, I look forward to community the contributions to the managed team Yeah, thanks a lot for organizing this. I'm really excited and thanks to everyone for their contributions All right. Thank you. Thanks. See you. Bye


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There's nothing less for us to do but start with a few tech things you should know A patent filed by lg with the world intellectual property organization describes a quote Mobile phone with a flexible display which can be folded in half to design show alternate ways of displaying information on the cover When the phone is in fact folded us sec wants answers To 31 detailed questions before approving mutual funds and exchange traded funds based on bitcoin futures And the us commodity futures trading commission has announced it has filed a federal civil enforcement action Against three virtual currency trading service operators cabbage tech and entrepreneurs headquarters and one name that's still sealed Faced charges of fraud misrepresentation misappropriation and more amazon has added voice to its You know who app start to the day ends with the day for android meaning users that can speak to the app to have it Do things and amazon echo would as well the updates rolling out to the google play store and is on its way to the ios app store to The italian antitrust authorities investigating allegations that apple and samsung Conducted quote a general commercial policy taking advantage of the lack of certain components to here's the good part Curb the performance times of their products and induce consumers to buy new versions This is about Slowing down performance to save the battery life apple has previously denied it tried to shorten the life of its products It says it was doing it to extend the life if found guilty the two companies could face multi million euro fines Now let's move on to some other top stories. What do we have sarah? instagram has a new feature that tells folks that you've shared private messages with or folks that you've tagged in your instagram stories When you were last active on the app? It is turned on by default Some people don't like this but there is a fix if you want to turn it off you go to your profile page Click these settings uh gear underneath your name next to edit profile inside the settings menu. There's a toggle for show activity status Now this is not a big deal Instagram is owned by facebook. I use facebook messenger regularly and often It tells me sort of like when my friends have been active on the internet lately because they've been active in that app But I think that it depends on the network when it comes to something like linkedin I hate people knowing you know when I've sort of been like perusing other people's profiles So I wonder how much this matters to most folks I think people are probably pretty concerned about it's You know instagram being part of facebook. This was kind of bound to happen Um, but as you said it's different like when you're messaging you would like to know if somebody's on that you can You can get a hold of them for messaging when you're kind of walking around a town doing instagramming Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I'm also the person who I have read receipts turned on uh in In my uh messages app for iOS and you know, I have so many friends who are like, why would you do that? It's such a like lack of privacy and it's like But I don't hate anyone I'm talking to like, what do I care? They know that I looked at their message and maybe couldn't respond right away But I do think the whole turned on by default thing, especially if people don't realize it for a while Is a problem because you want to at least Have the chance to make that decision for yourself. Well, that's that's the facebook, uh, modus operandi, isn't it just turn it on by default until people start squealing And turn it off. It used to be a lie all the time, right? I feel like facebook learned from that I don't know what instagram is up to here. I don't think it's the kind of thing They're gonna face serious backlash about I don't like have it at anything turned on by default I don't even mind this so much. I get that in the instagram world There are people who are like, I know you're online and you didn't like my photo and now I'm mad at you Like I that actually happens. I'm not worried about that personally But I still went and turned it off because I was like, nah I didn't ask for this to be on I don't want it on I'll decide what I want to The choice you're like, no, no, thank you. You didn't ask me. So I didn't opt in I have to opt out Amazon is raising its price for amazon prime. This is not just the video you there's there's a monthly for the video But there's also a monthly for the entire service that includes the shipping and the kindle library and everything It is now going to be $12 and 99 cents a month if you want to pay monthly It used to be $10 and 99 cents a month now that ends up being 156 dollars a year Up from the previous 132 dollars a year But the yearly price isn't changing don't mean to confuse you If you want to pay a year at a time which used to be your only option So you may not have realized there was a monthly option still 99 bucks They haven't raised that one in a while But if you want the option to be able to cancel it any month Maybe you're not sure how long you're going to need it or you're just you know You can't afford to lay out 99 dollars at once Then it's going to be 1299 I mean pushing people to do that yearly option I suppose Yeah, it certainly increases the savings from 32 to 56 dollars. That's that's not nothing Yeah, I'm going to be one of these guys where it's like things are expensive Like it's like, you know, they're gonna the price is going to go up at some point given all the services that they're doing And the fact that they just like subsumed whole foods and everything. So I Cost of doing business I also, you know, I I pay 99 dollars per year And I have for a couple of years. I have also and I've mentioned this on the show before I don't use amazon prime as much as I should certainly not as much as a lot of my peers do so this is sort of De-incentivizing anybody who's like, well, let me give it a shot because you know on the surface It just looks like oh 13 bucks a month. I don't know Yeah, well, it's It's interesting because I've got Dots throughout the house and there is oops. I'm sorry everybody. I have a little dot devices throughout the house And it's it's seductive It's it to himself if that makes anybody feel better Just to say, you know, I need new Deodorant and it shows up at your door the next day. I mean, that's that, you know, so I understand how much all this stuff costs. It's like Yeah Moving on one plus has been investigating why fraudulent charges were appearing on a small portion of its customers credit cards Friday had announced that credit card information of up to 40 000 customers was accessed by a malicious actor Between november of last year and now a script was injected into a server that copied payment information as it was entered into a form So one plus will offer a year of free credit card monitoring to any affected users Yeah, and they're still they're trying to be transparent about it But all they can say is they don't think any other servers were impacted but they can't say that definitively yet They are working with law enforcement And it's just unfortunate for one plus because they have some pretty rabid fans And this isn't the first controversy for them. It's a bit of a string of them with the phone home Scandal and the jelly roll scandal and not scandal, but the the bug And so this is another another one of those chinks in the armor where normally you'd say Unfortunate this does happen to companies though. Uh, and and yet if you're a one plus customer, you may be getting tired of that I don't know I don't know if it changed today or not, but yesterday I had heard that they were Uh, only accepting PayPal at this point. Is that true? Yeah, that was what they did at first when they were trying to figure out What what was actually going on which is I mean if you use PayPal, okay, but if you don't that's really limiting Yeah, but I think now that they found the script they'll probably turn credit cards back on but before They they knew that with credit card On it was happening and with PayPal it wasn't so that's why they they left PayPal up because and now it makes sense PayPal you weren't typing in a form you were logging into PayPal So that was separate and in fact if you had saved your credit card information with one plus This is one of those flip-flop situations where saving your credit card company with the company was actually safer than typing it in because typing It in was how they were capturing Researchers at lookout and the electronic frontier foundation spotted a server taking in hundreds of gigabytes of data from infected android phones As well as windows machines. The operation is being termed dark carousel c a r a c a l And affects thousands of users in more than 21 countries The server has been traced to a building belonging to lebanese intelligence users Get fooled into installing malware or typing in their passwords in a fileless version of this attack That uses phishing over facebook or whatsapp and what have you the malware also shows up looking convincingly like other apps There are examples of it looking like whatsapp examples of it looking like signal so it can steal your signal Login it can take photos from the phone's camera lift text messages pull location data and record audio on android and on windows It can do all the things malware normally does which is you know privilege escalation attacks and and steal your documents and stuff like that Yeah, not cool. I mean it's So the you've stated two apps in here that are basically imposter apps, right? So whatsapp and signal Is it appearing anywhere else? That those are the only ones that I saw mentioned for sure They you know if you want to worry about it the thing you need to do is not get your apps anywhere But the authorized store for you know the google play store if you're on android Because then you won't get these it's not like they're slipping them into the store It's not that bad What they're doing is they're tricking people Into clicking on a link and going and installing something from a third party And side loading it somehow Important it's gotten to the point now where every once in a while Facebook for example Will send me an email being like oh you requested to reset your password If you didn't do that click this link and we'll record that and even then and I've gotten this a million times because somebody's Always trying to like hack into my account. I'm like Oh, is it really facebook? The one time that it's like not a facebook email even though it looks like facebook, you know I'm gonna screw myself over so It's easy to be like oh, you know, don't click on stuff that seems shady, but We can all be fooled unless you have a blanket I never do anything this way when it comes from an email that I wasn't expecting And even then the the policy on all of these places should do not send email at all Right, I mean so the facebook and your bank and and everyone else really rather than sending email That could be interpreted as a phishing scam Reach out to you through one of the any other ways that they've got, you know, one of their applications on the phone or Some dropping you know it just seems that if you're if you're constantly Having to question whether or not every email comes in is actually legitimate. You're going to get hit eventually Well, exactly I mean I make it a policy that if I get those kind of notices like oh somebody was trying to log into your Count I don't click on anything in the email I go log into my account because there's also an alert in there And if and if they're and if it's real then I'll be able to access it from within my account But even then sometimes you just are you're tired? You're not thinking straight And and you may end up Almost falling for something or falling for something It's just that that's these things work on the spam principle Which is most of us don't have to fall for them for them to be successful. It just needs a tiny sliver of a percent All right, moving on to Cape Town, South Africa, which is suffering from its third year of the worst drought on records The city has launched an online water map now revealing water usage for individual properties So if you're at a location that's staying under the 50 liters per day Limit you have a nice little green dots By your property properties over the limit. They're not being you know Called out necessarily. They just don't have a nice green dot So the idea is that instead of shaming somebody for over using water You are you are gifting someone a green dot for doing it right It doesn't feel a little dystopian science fictiony to anybody Like like like one step below charging people for Feels a little weird Well, people do get charged for water, but I know I mean, you know like You make more money than you need more money than these people trying to reward a household a private property With uh, you know doing the right thing, you know taking Short of showers or you know, whatever it is that you're doing to to stay under the under the limit And clearly if you live in Cape Town, you know that there is a drought and it is a really big deal Um, and the shaming thing tends to upset people more. So I don't think this is this is a wrong approach. I I don't know. I mean not gonna Make it rain, but but if you know, if you have to ration water, what else are they gonna do? I I think it's a really interesting approach because Uh, first of all, there's there's different shades of green depending on how far under you are So there's they're trying to be all carrot no stick Like you're gonna get green if you're at the limit But you'll get a darker green if you do even better and Not every property has a dot Even if it's under the limit industrial locations retail locations, they're not included So just because you don't see a dot doesn't mean aha. That must be a person who lives there You'd have to look closely enough and go. Okay. That's a residence Uh, so I get what they're doing. They're trying to say we're not going to call out anybody We just want to give you a perk But I think I think to go back to what you said Rob Because it's a big satellite map they're using the google map satellite map It feels like big brother looking down and saying aha You are green and you It just feels slippery slopey to me and you even brought it up, right? So large companies and industrial parks are not taking part of this. So what if they're guzzling around the water? I That's a separate that's a separate issue. The first this is an attempt to reach residential customers But but that's a good point Probably the the needle moves more with the industrial customers. Anyway, so Well, and I mean if the idea is to get people to just get used to using less water Great, I mean, you know, what if you're running out of water, fine Maybe, you know at a reduction in whatever bill you're paying for, you know The utility company would be a better incentive than a green dot, but who knows maybe at dinner parties This is like a right of, you know, uh, you know something something to brag about Yeah, and I can't say they haven't tried that already they are in such a serious problem in capetown right now That I think they're willing to try anything. I mean, there's an estimate that by april They might not be able to run the water all the time for people. So this is this is a this is a pretty serious situation Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines You can get it on the amazon echo on the google home in the anchor app And that's a good old fashion podcast, uh, or a good new fashion podcast It'll show up in like modern apps and everything you can find that link at daily tech headlines dot com So previously on the show, uh, we have talked about things like the blade shadow I know patrick beige is really excited about it. He wants to come on and talk about it In february when it launches the idea behind that and the idea behind many other similar products is a high powered machine That's really expensive is made available to you over the internet So you don't have to have it local But you get the advantage of it And latency is managed to the point that you don't notice So you can do gaming video editing animation, etc From a chromebook from a tablet A lot of people don't believe this works, but patrick who's tried it out says no It actually really does work and rob, uh, your company nimble collective Is is making it work and I I know a lot of people are super skeptical about this How can this possibly work when I can't get my netflix to stream all the way through a 60 minute episode Well, you got netflix to thank for this actually because they've opened up a lot of the gateways To getting data faster data pipes to your home and your businesses As well as the servers that are on some of these these cloud networks But yeah, I I I am making a living off of doing this. So it's it definitely does work I understand the skepticism, uh, especially when you're doing something that is Latency tolerant or latency intolerant and requires a lot of heavy computing power So what do you have to do and obviously there's there's things that you can't talk about, uh, as far as, you know Agreements and everything but but generally speaking. What does a company have to do to get that latency down to zero? I mean, you can't just put your server on and plug it into the internet and let it go Now you have to work really hard at it. I mean so I should let me just back up and explain what nimble does for for folks who don't um, who aren't aware of it Um, so what we have done is we have taken the animation pipeline and an animation pipeline is what animators The team of animators used to create a film like coco, right? They You start at one end and there are people that create textures They're very good with creating textures in adobe or crita or some other application and that moves on to Um, perhaps a rigor which is the virtual puppeteering that goes on underneath the surface of a model to the modelers that are creating the modelers to the The manipulating of the models for the animation to rendering out the film that whole thing And i'm leaving out a lot of steps is called the pipeline and putting it together Is an expensive proposition Uh any given animation film or tv show? There is a significant fraction of the budget that is going to setting up and creating that pipeline Uh and throwing a bunch of animators on it to uh, that's why you see the Huge number of names at the end of the credits now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a it's a whole fascinating ecosystem of people that that go through this stuff And so what we've done is we've taken uh that pipeline Various flavors of applications and we pushed it out to the cloud And it's now possible to use our system to do a high quality film animation on something as small as a chrome book And once you've done something like that you you've tipped the economy of Creating animation Significantly in the favor of the studios and the animators who are who are trying to get this all done so The the biggest hurdle is what you just brought up, which is I don't believe this works, right? And so Walking in with working demos to to some of the places you're walking into it's it's very gratifying to watch their faces And jaws drop when when it does actually work so we're doing We've got our latency down to a point where you can with a pen on a chrome book Have latency free animation and it feels like you're doing it on a local device Now again that that sounds like magic and probably the only way to really convince someone is to show Show it to them put it in their hands and make it work But uh Do you have to do you have to do co-location deals? Do you have to do you have to do special servers like what's broadly speaking as much as you can It's a number it's actually a number of things There's a couple of technologies that are in play here. One is the ability to stream an application So the way that we have done this with off-the-shelf commercial software Without making any modifications is we're streaming virtual instances of Favorite os's windows usually we can also do linux machines as well And so those the output from those machines rather than going to a monitor Actually going to the virtual pipeline and that pipeline shows up inside of a chrome browser, for instance And so the machine that is running locally Believes that it is simply talking to a chrome Session running on the internet and the machine that is running remotely Thinks that it is talking to a display that's just sitting on a computer right in front of it And between those two mechanisms, that's how you get that sort of latency reduction So there's that that's step one step two is identifying machines that you have to use right so so there is high-powered graphics machines that are available at various cloud data centers and We make use of those for the appropriate processes We make use of those for for the appropriate rendering And you know, it's a matter of juggling all of those factors together and doing the calculus Figure out what you have to do on the fly. Yeah, so you don't have to like if if someone Obviously, there's regionals worldwide regional things that would affect this right if if I'm in Kenya for instance And and euro operating in the u.s. That might cause problems But generally speaking if you're in the u.s. You've got you've squeezed the data down enough And there's enough bandwidth out there that you can you can pretty much guarantee that this is going to work The only limiting factor being what the bandwidth on the end of the user Yeah, how fast is the pipe coming to your home or office? We can typically deliver high performance If the bandwidth to your nearest end point is, you know 30 milliseconds or less And we can get there and that most homes actually have that now So it's it's not so bad and then you said something very interesting like if if We've built our system out And other people to have as well built systems out in a way where it does take advantage of all those co-location facilities And so in theory, yeah, if you were in Kenya and you were near a data center that was operating on the same cloud platform And somebody else was in Los Angeles You could work collaboratively and see that kind of response speed So you're somewhere between uh, you know Somebody just putting a server on the internet and google which runs its own undersea cables Like you have to you have to do a little location Planning, but you don't have to build your own internet. No, no, no, no, which is fortunate So somebody's actually trying to build their own stuff and and failed Pretty badly actually it's complex, right? I mean that's that does not something that's easy to do Granted, I feel like one of the things that's making this possible And you tell me if if I'm under a misimpression here is the fact that we just have More connectivity options more bandwidth options than we used to Yeah, that's true. There's a lot more bandwidth options. There's a lot more Pipes coming into the house and that's why credit companies like Netflix. They're who are You know, the users are demanding that kind of bandwidth. So those pipes are in place Through most of the major metropolitan areas in North America And then the demands on the servers in the cloud platform, whether you're on amazon or Microsoft Azure or the google cloud platform They're constantly being upgraded and you're getting faster and faster Machines that are sitting behind that that pipe So you take advantage of that as well? Yes, they you know the the big guys are doing some of the work Yeah, if you request for instance in our system if you request to do A rotation of a model and that model is is is very Graphic intensive. It's using one of the high powered graphics machines if you are simply doing, um, you know, some You don't really need a lot of power for that. So the machine gets stepped down Do you worry that net neutrality legislation changing or net neutrality rules rather not legislation changing Is going to upset the playing field. It is a conversation underway. Yeah, we we have been Not affected by any of that yet But of course if people are if if there's going to be bandwidth being charged then, you know, there's some effect on that Well, I want to get real quickly one last question because I know it's on everybody's mind They're like, okay. That sounds great. What can't I do yet? What are what are we stopped from being able to do with this sort of? right now, there's a lot of Blockages, I guess you would say would be machines that would normally be local to your desktop that require specialized hardware So, you know, if you're you're talking about a lot of machines that have video shuttles or transport mechanisms and some of those some video editors Or have machines that have pieces of hardware attached to them. And so we're not there yet But that's not too far in the future. It's not very distant future either. 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Lobo stuff looks really cool This is in reference to our conversation yesterday rich says I thought I'd recommend something similar for people who can't wait for it to come out or just don't plan on buying a switch But hemorony is a uk-based raspberry pi reseller But what really differentiates them is their creative kits around cheap system on a chips He links us to uh, where you can find out more information and then says Generally, these are recommended for ages eight and up, but have sewable gadget kits diy cameras radios Cars tons of cardboard kit prices range from 25 to 70 dollars I know my local microcenter stocks them So you might not have to pay for uk shipping at all probably not as well baked as uh, lava will be But a cool option nonetheless Thank you rich straffolino. That's very cool. And I know there's some raspberry pi I wish I knew that. Yeah, he tried to play it cool, but I knew who it was because I looked at his email It's our rich. Yeah, uh, and in our boss's slack kaley writes Finally got to listen to the show Labo is indeed Japanese shorthand for laboratory Japanese speakers tend to shorten words to the first two syllables of words like family mart becomes family ma, etc I'm shocked that they just left it named labo Even in English, but I'm supposed there's a precedent tamagotchi life for instance Then again, Japanese language is cool now. I suppose so I guess it makes sense that some folks or kids might think it's nifty To have it sound kind of Japanese or maybe they just wanted a consistent name across the regions I mean the only reason I really asked about what what that all meant was of course laboratory makes perfect sense But there's also a perfumer called la labo at least when I tried to pre-order So it's like that was the first thing I went to like why are they calling it that? No, because you mentioned that when I pre-ordered labo today I searched for labo and got a bunch of perfume and I'm like, well, it's not what I'm looking for So I had to put in All right before we go we have to check in with len peralta who is here illustrating the cloud Yes, you know, I am really amazed at what rob's company is doing with the cloud and You know, it was really difficult for me to come up with an idea that is That really kind of spoke to that so I went more evergreen with this Because I think there's a lot more people who are going to choose to live their life in the cloud And so why not create a character who kind of represents that and that's what I did today The man who lives his life amongst the cloud or the person I should say who lives his life amongst cloud Just call him cloud guy And You've probably seen him before Yes, I think I think this is the guy you're going to find In the cloud if you were to go up there That guy resembles Earth guys, I think so, I think you know or whoever right It could be anyone but and and just to be clear. He is not dead He is not there's a man at the bottom here who looks like his spirit has been lifted That's not it. He is actually just Living ethereally in the cloud enjoying Whatever the cloud has to give to him When local man goes to sleep cloud guy cloud guy goes up there. He never goes to sleep It's pretty amazing how that works Yeah, so this is available right now in my online store. You can go pick it up You can actually also do some other great things like go to patreon and back me there And you'll get every single one of these drawings. I do for tom show on friday And um, yeah, so very very cool And there's some also some also really cool stuff that's there up at the online store You may want to check out so go check it out at lend for all to store.com That's right. Excellent. Thanks also to rob de millo who joined us today CTO at nimble collective rob let folks know where they can learn more about everything that you do Oh, you can go right to nimble collective you go to nimble collective com You can you can read all about us. You can see some of the animations that have been created If you want to find out about me about me Slash rob de millo Excellent go do it right now and a big thank you to the folks who support us In all the various ways you can you can find out how to do it at daily tech news show com slash support, but Our our biggest support comes from our patrons and we're always trying to get more patrons than last month And we're doing great so far. So keep it up. 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I didn't that kind of dog. Tell us everything Right, look, there he goes. Oh, he's gone. He's locked up that way.  Do you know, uh, looks like around I want to say 50 or 60. Okay. So, yeah He'll probably fall out a little more in the next few months for sure Well, his personality is gonna pop out and right now he's sort of like shy and walking around like Yeah You know the kind of thing but I mean I know and he's really Like owning the place Oh bad What a cutie Yeah, let's make sure he doesn't uh own the place in a dog-ish kind of fact. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen I just I just always You know, I can tell myself to that happening at least once or twice. I stocked up on, um, Uh, nature's miracle. There you go. Yeah All right, uh titles Make it rain on south africa cloud guy eight bit dts 50 shades of green total reference guys hard to beat Making animation more nimble The cloud becomes the matrix robby nimble robby quick like The brighter side of the cloud Uh, blade shadow brighter side or broader side brighter side, okay, I see brighter At the bottom better side of the cloud brighter side of the cloud Uh, blade shadow sounds like magic, but is it? Is it is it really Is it very that was very jungles. Yeah. Yeah Oh, it is very jungles. I like that Robby nimble robby quick no Rob because then the next line is I jump over candlestick And they're straight into a Yankee candles. I'm sure we could get an animation of that done right Cool ladies and gentlemen always fun. Yeah, thank you rob. It was great And it was so nice to be in vegas last week. Yeah, it was nice to see you It was really fun and and everyone that was a great whoever organized that that was a lot of fun It was so fun. Yeah, that was me casual Thank you, Len. That was a good effort. Are we? No No, glenn glenn just takes credit. I do when no one else is I take credit So we all we uh, so shan and I have a common friend uh, and so tom and roger dale chase who is Uh, a rap artist aside from being an engineer and he always raps about uh tech stuff and so shannon apparently did Be bop on one of his tracks or something So one of the one of the people from your group brought the cd For her to sign and so that was kind of fun. Yeah, that was great Uh, I love dale dale does good stuff. Dale's great. He's working at nimble actually Oh, no, that's right. No, I remember you mentioned that when you saw that cd Pretty cool. You should have free concerts then. All right. What do we call in this roger making animation more nimble? Any objections love it great the motion is passed. No motion is passed print it print it Excellent Uh-oh Go in there By the way, I want everyone on the call to notice my flawless internet this time Yes, your internet was smooth as silk It was smooth as silk hero. Do we have to thank for that? You have hero to thank for that. All right You have me moving to oakland to thank for that. Then you got hero Right. I I feel like you and I have some things in common because I'm on hero myself and I used to live in oakland So I don't know. There you go. Man user isp Uh Hey, it worked It's like we're getting 225 down. So it's not bad. Yeah, I'm bad at all Just kind of weird What are the things hanging off the bottom of your the photos behind you? Oh, these are uh photo rods museum photo rods So I can change these out if I want to so there's like little clamps that hold onto the photos I can pull those out and and put new ones in Oh, like what's the one on the other side so long? Um artistic License, so you can't say this one's got two photos hanging off of it. This one's got one No, I mean it looks cool. I just was like what's what's the deal? Yeah, it's uh, I forgot already. Um Some some some yuplified home store, but yeah That's very cool Hey, I'm gonna have to do that make thimbles nimble thimbles Oh about like like little uh Dancing jogging thimbles. Well, when you when you expand from animation into seamstresses And that that's the perfect swag seamstresses in the cloud cloud cloud sewing seamstresses in the cloud Claude tailoring Oh my god, that's the name of my autobiography Tailoring no seamstresses seamstresses in the clouds seamstresses in the cloud the lenperolta story the lenperolta story So I downloaded uh, so there's a firmware patch to My windows 10 laptop my work flint windows and a laptop that downloaded. Uh, I think it was to get rid of um meltdown They get meltdown it melted down. All right. I took my machine out. Oh Oh, it was one of those ouch. Yeah So yesterday Yes, somebody in the chat room while we were chatting during the main show asked how meltdown or specter Would impact you and I know I already asked you this that the answer is you don't know yet, right? We don't know. We have no idea and I'm I am having a little bit of faith that amazon and microsoft and the linux people Will take care of that problem for us because it actually hits the servers before it gets to us We don't really have a lot of control over it And google seems to feel that they have resolved it to their satisfaction for g-suite. So it's possible Yeah, it is possible. It is possible But more of the story used last pass or some password Chrome don't use your chrome password manager Yeah, right People people are spoiled. This is why we can't have nice things. That's true people spoil all the fun Um Top five for tech republic, uh, I just wrote for for next month, uh, top five human security risks Just all the ways that people are your are your Your vulnerability point Your family your mother is probably like house kids car That's not a person I'm calling from that was more about the things that people do like, you know Install software that they're not supposed to share their passwords when they're not It happens a lot and I'm I'm always Sort of shocked and I got I got to wash myself because I that means I'm next right right Quick and I do get I do get dangerously curious I'll get like those emails and I'll like hover my mouse because I want to find out what the actual url is and All I'd have to do is sneeze and click and I'd be screwed I You talked about this on buzz out loud, which is how long ago it was but uh years ago Got an email right after I had listed something for sale or bid on something for sale I guess on ebay saying you need to confirm Uh your account for your latest bid and without thinking I clicked on it And then started to fill in the information and then stopped saying wait a minute Why didn't I have to log in and then it hit me? Also, that's not the email address associated to my ebay account and I stopped but I it was chilling because i'm like wow like I know better Wow, but because it timed it just happened to accidentally time, right? I was like, oh, I you know, I just did put that bid Yeah That's pretty interesting. I got I got a notification from google saying that Okay, your password for our demelo at gmail.com is uh being changed. This wasn't you click it and so I Like freaked out at that turns out it actually was somebody whose initial was r and last name was demel like they They were confusing accounts I have so many of those and the problem is a lot of these people use my This particular email account I use the same service and so A lot of people's names I guess are roger and so when I say roger blah blah blah You need to change your bubble. I can't Like automatically Like reach for it, but the thing is when I never open a link in an email Um You know, I always go straight to the website. So if it's like like a facebook update or think I actually just go to facebook I don't actually click on the link isn't there a roger chang at senup? Or am I imagining that chang? Chang cheng. Yep. Yes. I I've seen him I have never I've never met him except over email Across the room at ces. I was so wanting to Yeah, we were in the lobby of the uh the tp robot hotel. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know the name of the hotel That's pretty nice Was uh, it was I was so close to greatness No, I don't know or maybe he was um We all know we know that we know how that goes mutual greatness Um I'm taking this mic off these books because Give me a problem if I know Oh You okay there roger? Yes. I'm trying to uh get my hanging in there. It's friday Oh two days and then another week Two days a week repeat until you die. Well, my kid's birthday is next weekend. So I'm trying to think of all the explaining I need to do Very nice I hate that I gotta think like oh do I need to buy those shelving units from like Home Depot so I can organize my garage and make more space to put crap in it I just did that this weekend. Yeah, I put up. I put up. I'm very proud of myself. I put peg boys in the garage Did all that stuff Very organized and neat and clean now Looks like I could be surgery again now. I just have so much Stuff Yeah, I started using let's go actually last week because I've done I'm just trying to get rid of as much stuff as I can so Facebook will begin to prioritize trustworthy news outlets on its social media posts This doesn't seem like breaking news to me because didn't they already say they were kind of going to do this They did Uh next week News feed will prioritize high quality news over less trusted sources What do they call high quality news? Well, I think this this probably is coming I haven't found out that part, but my guess would be it's coming out of the the fact checking So whatever they're fact checking system, it's a weird reality right now. Yeah It's just bizarre But aren't they also tell I mean in other parts of the world they're testing not having News show up at all in your personal news feed unless it's shared by your friends. Yeah I don't know that five weeks. Yeah, because that's going to keep you in the bubble Uh, and then moving on out of chambers the one that provides all those of the news feeds for news feed news feed news feed How nice Movie pass announced it's going to start buying movies. The company will invest not buy invest in films Oh Like like production of all that So they're going to sell the data and insights they gain from their their monthly subscription service to studios Who can do more targeted marketing for the films? And they're also going to invest money in the films Another version of the echo chamber echo chamber I want them to do slightly less polished versions of already You know, like you see those of like like popular summer blockbusters Like the like when they release it on the home video There will be like what it what's that company called that makes all those schlocky versions Like for example, there's Pacific Rim and when that went to home video they released one called Atlantic Rim, which is It's like borderline like embarrassing bad, but they make enough money on it Because of customer confusion Maybe they can do something like that, but you know, maybe higher quality They could um, what's the term and uh, be kind rewind sweet it sweet it sweeted it sweeted version I'm shuffling out my calendar events around Make sure I've got Lumia Asylum studios. Thank you captain jack 913 in the chat room Oh my gosh, uh the six Outlander Glasses that I ordered from the same Glass maker in Scotland that makes them for the Outlander TV series have finally been made And are ready to ship Eileen is going to be very happy Wait, so these are Working, uh, corrective lenses No wine glasses Oh, oh, oh, I thought like hey, that's good. I did too actually Sorry, I remember there were glasses That's because you've not watched Outlander. They drink a lot of wine on that show Watch I watched the wine episode The final episode is where she's in the hospital for sclerosis Oh, you drank too much wine And now you need glasses wait, but that kind of sclerosis never mind All right, uh, that's it for us. Have a lovely weekend everyone. Thanks again, Rob Thanks for having me everyone I did you all a doo-doo Come on have fun with the new dog I'm excited.  Thank you so much good stuff on your end too. Thank you sir Any final words to our live streaming audience before I stop the stream I thought you were gonna stop it like Yep, I love you all That's good. I also love you all. I mean There's probably a couple people I don't love but just press the button Roger