So how are we gonna do this? I know we need we're trying to make it 20 minutes But again, let's make it 20 minutes if it's 20 minutes. I broke it down to five videos It's about seven questions when we start getting into this. It's gonna be it's gonna be tough not to Dig in because there's so many things where she's it's suggesting. She's being deceitful there We what do y'all think up front? We need to say look We just chose something like light-hearted because of all the heavy stuff So we could still teach you about body language, but not be on such a serious topic And what I'll do is when we introduce ourselves then Greg when it comes back to me that I'll throw it back to you and say Greg Don't you explain what we're I'm okay with that. Great. Everybody ready? Yeah There we go I'm Scott Rass my body language expert and analyst I train law enforcement the military and interrogation body language I'm also a keynote speaker and I'm focused right now in the healthcare sector chase Hi, I'm Chase Hughes. I retired from the US military and now develop programs and teach Interrogation behavior profiling and I am a trial consultant here in the United States work Hi there, I'm Mark Bowden. I'm an expert in human behavior and body language Helping people all over the world to stand out wind trust gain credibility every time they speak including some leaders of the G7 Excellent great. I'm Greg Hartley. I'm a former army interrogator and interrogation resistance instructor I've written 10 books on body language and behavior including how to spot a liar Which would be handy today and I work primarily in corporate America and Wall Street Excellent, so Greg why don't you explain what we're doing in this episode? Yeah So today we thought we would take a break from all this heavy stuff and go to something more lighthearted still an opportunity to teach You how to tell when someone is deceiving you and so we chose this time to look at someone who's abducted by aliens We thought it'd be a great story All right, let's get started Before I sat down with Jane she voluntarily sat a lie detector test or polygraph She underwent this test three times Have you been part of an alien breeding program? Yes There are three important questions. Did you meet an alien? Do you have part alien children? Have you been part of an alien breeding program? No deception was indicated So as I would expect Alrighty Who wants to go first? Greg Yeah Polygraphs anyway you a polygraph as good as the person who's actually administering it They're really interrogators with props and we'll all talk about that when I'm sure today, but she's sitting there braced Ready for whatever he's going to ask her flutter of her eyelids as she starts into that thing You can see she's gripping her chin drops to cover her throat. She's protecting vital organs She's clearly affected by the fight or flight and then my favorite is when they get to ask her or to say you took this Polygraph and she's waiting. She's braced again for the worst you you know, you're not telling the truth But instead they say you passed well again a polygraph is as good as a person administering Excellent mark where you got yeah, so three times on the polygraph But no explanation as to why three times I mean is that standard procedure that you'll ask the same questions three times Was one time not so good for this show and so they did it another couple of times and Maybe should get better at it So that's kind of interesting That moment of As I would expect and that's like stutter there that jump in as I would expect expect I'm wondering whether There's something up there. Did she really expect that did she expect something else is there She caught a little bit of balance by this moment Also, I'm kind of concerned about the questions three important questions Did you meet an alien? Do you have part alien children? Have you been part of an alien breeding program? because what we'll find out later on is She considers alien and alien breeding maybe a little bit different from how we consider Alien and alien breeding and how the audience might be expecting Alien and alien breeding to be I mean if you frame the idea of what is an alien in a different way Then you know many of us have been part of alien breeding programs and and have met Aliens so but maybe we'll come to that a little bit later Americans so you know we fit Yeah, yeah Alright, well Chase I know you have not just you know a concept or an idea what's going on here But what about tell us about your feelings about? A Test anyway, yeah polygraph is a perfect machine for detecting all deception and I didn't mean that at all It is a Machine that is a complete con the entire machine is a con So the guy that's operating the polygraph machine Hopefully is a good interrogator who's got something he's got a reason to ask questions and later on He's got a reason to go back to those questions and say you said this and the polygraph machine said this You've got to give me some more information and if anybody in here Anybody watching if you've got a top-secret clearance or you've ever gone undergone a polygraph They're gonna tell you that you did bad pretty much every time and that's in the textbook and It's the biggest con game in the world however You could see the relief on this woman's face. You could see her bracing. She was rigid and frozen in place and If you take a picture of someone who is completely honest If I polygraph anybody and and I'm asking you about a real event in your life You're not gonna be that nervous You'll you'll be open and you won't have that thing that Scott the term that Scott coined extra face You're not gonna have that Feeling of I need to control and reserve everything. It's going to flow out. You're gonna have confidence that you'll be Doing pretty well in the polygraph Excellent. One thing I noticed it just come from an interrogator's Point of view when he's asking the questions. Did you notice what he wasn't doing? It was a looking at her here's the quit. Did you did you have a she won't tell me Yeah, so it's it's like you gotta be kids. So I don't know that's somebody's cousin or something They've said dude, you can do that. You've got one of those. Yeah, I got your table. Come on in. Yeah, how's it work? I just plug them up and it works. It works every time, you know So that's that's a problem and they call it polygraph. It's what the woman keeps saying But is that British mark? Is that the way? No, no, it should be polygraph. It should be polygraph It's okay. All right. Yeah, there is no poly that is Poly many many graphs many meters many it's a thing and it has many things to go like this on it and You know for most people if they see a polygraph or they're hooked up to one. They're gonna go. Oh, oh, oh, I better I better comply Right now. I got trouble. Yeah, and as Chase was saying, it's a great prop It's a great tool to go. Oh, well, you know, you weren't telling us something here and to dig in deeper Well, it measures three things against baseline galvanic skin response Which means blood leaving your your skin to go to to fighting utensils to go to arms and legs It means respiration and it means heart rate That's the three things are measuring and those can be masked So it's only as good I chase you and I are dead on with this one It's as good as the person using it as prop a sharp stick might be just as good if you use it correctly Before I sat down with Jane.  Yes There are three important questions. Did you meet an alien? Do you have part-alien children? Have you been part of an alien breeding program? No deception was indicated So as I would expect here we go Jane's first experience with aliens or grays as she calls them happened when she was a toddler I was in a white painted cot and I pulled myself up and looked up into the beautiful eyes I thought him as the man with cow eyes at that age. Did he talk to you in English in English? Yes in language I would understand but telepathically no sound and I found Instinctively that I could talk back to him the same way. It was just there We went up into a spaceship It will know we went into if I think back then rather as an adult looking back we went into a brown silver room and I lay on a table that was cold and Above me was pictures of my I now know pictures of my organs, but I had no idea what was going on They were just things in the air and I would now translate that or describe that as a hologram Though at my age, I don't think holograms existed then Okay Chase, what do you got? This was great She starts off with a very vivid description of the crib a white painted crib she's looking up in these big giant cow eyes and it's very visual and This may be a real dream that she'd had This was the most vivid description that she offers throughout the entire interview And after she is Saying each one of these little pieces of the story she does something called a confirmation glance To make sure that the interviewer is still buying the story And this nervous laughter at the end of each one of them you notice that We didn't see that Anywhere else and we don't see it later on when she's not really emotional Not trying to sell anything the only honest part of this interview in my opinion is when she's talking about her own children her real human Children not the humalians Okay, all right mark. What do you got? Yeah, so to pick up on that There's that moment where she looks for Approval on we went up into a spaceship. She looks for approval And because the interviewer here is hard as nails with her My assumption is is she gets zero approval back and she instantly crumbles and produces that that laughter In order to brush that aside and then do a rationalization of it and to say well You know, that's what as an adult I say it is as a child. Let me describe to you where I was Which sounds to me like some kind of doctor's office of some sort of a brown Brown room with some lights and with some pictures of organs You know kind of like you'd go if you went to a doctor's or a trainee doctor or you know any kind of Medical place you're probably going to see some of that some of that stuff. So Uh, for me, there's an instant point here where I'm I'm really seeing some some Crumbling during the interrogation that's going on here And really the interrogation here is for the interviewer to say nothing and just let her Blurt out her story and start changing the story as she goes along Excellent Greg. Yeah, I'm with both of you She rambles rambles through stuff that no two-year-old could possibly remember if this is something It's a vivid dream somewhere along the way. I think it's a little bit more than that You know people if you think of mesos hierarchy You get into belonging in a group and then differentiating once you tell your story and people start to stroke you And you keep making details and details and details. It gets more and more vivid She's doing recall from the vivid portions of that. It's not a lot of visual recall of any kind She's baselining pretty much the same every time she goes for a memory But that could be rote. She's learned this thing over and over and over and that giggling that Is a way to try to socially bond when she's made a really big goofy mistake So, I mean, this is a this is textbook For watching someone who's lying to you if I were interrogating someone sitting across the table and they had all of that behavior I would immediately go to deception and rehearse deception Excellent I got a few things with this like when she's talking it's the way she's saying it the way she's talking about it When she when she when she asked her did he talk to you in English? She says yes English in a language I would understand She wouldn't say that I would understand. She'd say that I understood Another thing was when she says, um I found instinctively I could talk back um the same way Two-year-olds don't have the cognitive ability To to talk about conceptually about things like instinct and those types of things So that's what either if she's being honest then she's got her timeline wrong She wasn't too. She was about seven or eight two two two years old imagine what she said back to the alien bottle Cookie Yeah, exactly So those those are things right out of the gate that bought and it doesn't sound like things are in order either You know, we'll get we'll get to that in the in the next setup, but Things are already standing kind of weird like she's Like she's not being honest about it. I'm not gonna say any better than that Story Jane's first experience with aliens or greys as she calls them Happened when she was a toddler. I was in a white painted cot And I pulled myself up and looked up into the beautiful eyes I thought him as the man with cow eyes at that age Did he talk to you in English in English? Yes In language I would understand but telepathically no sound And I found instinctively that I could talk back to him the same way. It was just there We went up into a spaceship It well, no, we went into if I think back then rather as an adult looking back We went into a brown silver room And I lay on a table that was cold And above me was pictures of my I now know pictures of my organs, but I had no idea what was going on There were just things in the air And I would now translate that or describe that as a hologram Though at my age, I don't think holograms existed then Yeah. All right, everybody good? All good How long do you think you were away at this particular point in time?  Well, that's a good point. They definitely do something to us As in the abductees one of another word experiences They either hypnotize us either chemically or in some other way I mean we have a drug called medazolam on earth. It's similar to only having a light dose of that And mum just didn't wake up and I think they do something to the the people around you too I might have only been gone 10 minutes. I have no idea How do you tell time at that age? All right, Greg, what do you got? Well, first of all, how do you tell time at that age? Well, how do you know what hologram? All that stuff everything that she just keeps bringing up again accessing the same place consistently Usually a good indicator if I'm asking you a question and you're running through it There are a couple of other just stammer's my favorite is that's a good point That's anytime you're asking somebody and you've got them on the ropes. They're looking for space. That's a great one That's a distance. That's a give me time and space to be able to come up with something She probably never heard that question before case I fully agree with Greg And any of us if if our memory is so vivid that we can recall the silver room the images floating We'll remember some kind of time. I can ask you how long was your 10th birthday? You say a couple hours 45 minutes or so Open some presents and finished it up And if the memory is so vivid that she remembers the skin and the eyes and the painted white crib And has no memory of about how long it took Which is even to provide an estimation Or to to qualify What she said afterwards she had something in there called a qualifier where she Gives an answer and then explains it away by Means of something else. How can you tell time at that age? and she's a very unusual Head turn with her eyes as soon as she says well, how can you tell time at that age? She breaks contact from the interviewer with her skull And the eyes at the same time, which is horizontal gaze aversion This is one of the pre-flight indicators that we teach to police officers before somebody's about to run Yep, yep, but I didn't see that I in that part you're right But I didn't see the flare nostrils which you'll see as well A lot of times they'll you'll see them looking and those nostrils will go out and then bang they're going Mark, what do you got? Well, there's a chemical in the brain called isopropin and when isopropin is imbued upon the Negative iron so that you see what she's doing is just throwing in the name of the chemical So that we'll all go. Oh, okay. All right. Well, you're talking science then so we'll just agree with that that that idea of medazolim Which she which she puts in which is a which is a drug she'd understand She's a nurse so she she'd have come across that and it seems she knows the effect of it as well So she knows the short acting effect of it. It's quick acting lasts for a short amount of time So she understands that but her hope is I think if she throws in that long word The interviewer will comply. So again, it's another look for compliance And you get that with people who are trying to string you a story all the time They'll bring in they'll bring in things like, you know, well, the funny thing is or, you know, try and make you laugh Try and bring in qualifiers that are of a higher status I think it was one of one of you have talked about before read out their resume To you I think this is the the bringing of of medazolim at the moment Is is kind of a resume that she's putting forward to say there's no point in questioning me I understand about drugs and also the story just gets confused at this point I'm pretty smart and I couldn't work out for a for a start whether she was talking about her or her mother And she starts off talking about her and then brings it back to her mother And so I'm I'm I'm confused and I think it's a simple question, which is Why didn't why didn't somebody notice you were gone? Yeah, I mean a good answer would be I have no idea. I just don't know don't know why I don't know If you're going through an experience like medazolim and someone asks you about it or you're just talking about it You'll describe the feeling And you know writing fiction I know there's a thing called showing versus telling If I tell you somebody's confident That's that does nothing for you if I say she strode into the room and everybody turned around to look It changes things it changes how you how you perceive the whole situation But when we're telling a story we're describing experience not facts We're saying I I got something I felt a haze come over me My whole body relaxed and I remember just Floating down into this table or sinking down into this alien table Well to that point chase let's help her be a better liar Okay, if that if that's what's happening sure a better lie Right off the the bat for example when they say well, you know, what did they say to you? Would be to say it wasn't really language. It was it was just a feeling you just knew I just knew what they were talking about and and it wasn't really a language It was just an exchange of feeling Yeah, the weird thing to me is most people will tell you take facts and you expand them to create a good lie Or a good story. She's just sprinkling a random fact and hear that she happens to have because everything else is plain cloth right and when you talk about lies of Omission commission a live commission is the hardest to sustain because it has to tie into your life And she just got called on the carpet for a big miss in that tying all of her all of her stuff together Why didn't your mother miss you and there'll be another she's going to get another one This interviewer at least is not buying into this craziness and that's And her questions aren't really that good. No, they're not but but at least she's asking something and That's true What the one problem I had was she keeps separating herself from what's happening when she's talking about What where did you again the story here? She talks about the drugs and then she gets to the time I don't know how well I could have gone. It could have been 10 minutes And when she's talking about these things she says that when they when they they hypnotize us or When we do this, it's like she's part of wants to be part of this group or she's she's removing herself from it Saying it's us and we it's not just me.  It came right at me But in real life, I'd say I said man, I saw a Murder wasp thing was huge. It was huge if it gets on and you're done. That's it I've seen one of these things get the singers got to be that long. Hey to god I couldn't I could not believe what I was seeing There's none of that in there. She's not saying anything that she'll She's telling a story. Yeah. Yeah So that's that's again and that and everything being out of order, you know The thing I think she should have said last was one of the first things she's talking about Then she gets to where the time goes away. She's not not answering the question Where maybe she's told us so many times she has to get those points in Did she say she was writing a book or anything in this? Did we know that? Oh, yeah, right at the end Yeah, right at the end. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. She does right. She does. Uh, there's a book in it Okay, okay.  Yeah abducted murder wasp He wasn't part of a humusp program Don't mind him because he was hunting when he found it He was he was hunting with his mate hunting bigfoot. It's probably yeah Mad Derek His mate mad Derek. We're out hunting How long do you think you were away at this particular point in time? Didn't didn't your mother miss you? Well, that's a good point. They definitely do something to us As in the abductees were one of another word experiences They either hypnotizes either chemically or in some other way. I mean we have a drug called madazzlem on earth It's similar to only having a light dose of that And mum just didn't wake up and I think they do something to the the people around you too I might have only been gone 10 minutes. I have no idea How do you tell time at that age? All right, everybody good? Good. Yeah. Oh good Do you have part alien children?  They were conceived in the usual way both the human father and I Probably have some alien DNA already in us and then at about 12 weeks. I was taken up into the spaceship again I have a clear memory of this. That's where you had sex too, wasn't it in the spaceship? Yes, yes, so so you a lot of people might make a joke about them All the children were conceived on the spaceship. Yes Did you have any say in that? No, no, and you know I'm making the best of this story and I'm trying to be light-hearted about it because I've been through my Greening process and I still have days. I'm upset about it and I miss the children So I say they were kind to me and they consented and I wanted to defend the race because I feel Almost part of them as if they're family. Where did you put birth? Well, they were taken from my uterus In the spaceship, but here I had to have dnc's and there was no cure it. Yes Um, so doctors were confused every time so they they they removed the babies here No, they'll remove the babies in there And then you had to go to the hospital to have a bit of treatment. Well, I did. Yes So did so you you only went to a three month term or something like that? The longest one was five months and then the babies Yeah, were put into some sort of test some sort of humidity to bring in space Yeah, they've got way more advanced medical technology than we do. There's no question about that But here I would have an ultrasound and there would be a fetus on the ultrasound And I would have positive pregnancy tests And then suddenly the baby would be gone with that and the evidence of that But if you carried a baby for five months, someone must have noticed you were pregnant I went to a doctor and it was confirmed that I was pregnant. Where was your husband? Um, your earth husband. I was divorced by this date. Yes Anybody else wondering if she had if she was confirmed pregnant With three kids that disappeared where the hell those kids are That sounds that's like some kind of trauma thing must happen if that was true number two and number one The cops would be there, you know Yeah, I don't think it's down. I don't think it's down that route, but certainly we've got somebody here who who Who is You know to to look at it in its best light Which is this is made with this if it isn't somebody who's just written a book and trying to promote it What we have here somebody is is traumatized and in order to deal with that trauma. They've created A story of these children being abducted by aliens much like in in medieval times if you had kids who Were going to be a bit of a problem for you you took them out into the woods And the fairies would get them and they turn them into changelings And there was always there was a supernatural way Of dealing with some of the tragedies of of life, which is losing children or purposely Losing them. I don't think that's what's happened in in this case But certainly we've got somebody here who understands Dnc and understands probably what is either either stillborn or Or certainly miscarriage and is trying to deal with That situation by creating a story Yeah, or just making up a story as you said in the beginning But more importantly to me, this is an occult eraser kind of thing right if If a person told me that I had alien babies and this happened this happened this happened If people knew you were pregnant and suddenly you just showed up and said hey, the babies are gone Don't you think you'd start to see a trend in that person over time? So it could just be a plaincloth story her friends the people around her would start asking questions All these people around would start to wonder I'm just saying imagine today a woman, you know, who lives next door who is pregnant and at five months pregnant Every time the baby disappears. What do you think would happen in real life? Yeah, I can say the coffee show Hey guys, something's going on with this woman It and maybe she lives in you know somewhere where that doesn't happen But just ask yourself as you're talking to someone who has an outlandish story Is that real or practical? Can that have happened and no one have noticed and this woman is starting the interviewer is starting down that path There's just some outlandish things never mind that she is in a heightened sense of fight or flight looking for the door with her body and More than one direction. She's doing posture shifts. She's shuffling. She's covering my army days.  There's a super stern notch. I think we gotta start. I think we got to call that the Navarro notch He's the one that was sort of popularized that Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, it's and also there when she's as she's talking about it She's uh, she's she has no emotions when she's talking about the kids It's all the same emotion the whole time and they're usually I always talk about the loping Greg and I I sent Greg a recording of a thing I'm working on and the person in question Their story is just loping right along and everything sounds fine and this one It's all choppy and stops and when she hits that super stern notch with a Navarro notch She's I think she's trying to just blast right past that what happened to the kids What happened to you? How long were you in the hospital? What's going on? What are you talking about? I think that hits on the hospital. I think the problem here is the hospital I think the problem here is what what has happened to her or she's deciding has happened to her in a hospital Hmm, that's the hospital chase. What do you got? So a dnc is a procedure to basically Clean out the inside of the uterus after a miscarriage and abortion and That's pretty telling that that somebody would say that and if I was making up a story and I know that those are in my medical records I'll make that part of the story just in case that ever comes up I'll add that make sure that that evidence that's real and findable is part of the story And this very much could be trauma genic This entire thing could be based in trauma But you see as as she's getting pressed on any of these questions if any of us are getting pressed on A major event in our lives. We're relaxed. We're open. Our face is moving our tone of voice is changing We're showing emotion If we're talking about losing a child dear god, we're going to show some emotion that's There's nothing worse And and we see nothing here So we're She's kind of parading this this story out and you see As she gets closer to this part of the story that makes her nervous She's reaching up covering the neck protecting the throat and goes down here and starts doing jewelry playing Women are more likely than men to associate jewelry with identity And this is one of those things where you see jewelry playing and you see this this nervousness towards the end of the statement Chase great catch and it's not just jewelry. Do you notice what it is? Oh, yeah Yeah across right that's a barrier of a kind that I always say Holy relics bear, you know clothing that you wear your some religions wear specific things And that cross is a huge huge thing to touch. It's re-emphasizing. It's outside or closed for a reason I mean all of that. So yeah, you could put a generator on her body and create some electricity from her moving around So much in this. Yeah, so here's what I'd say is is Chase, I think you're right that we don't see emotion here but what we do see Is a story about being abducted by aliens and so what I think we're seeing here is the transference of that emotion into An incredible story And into a situation where you would go on television television and and you would You would retell that fantasy You would be prepared to do that. So we aren't seeing a woman who's You know weeping over her children We're seeing her probably from most of our point of views telling a mad story And this is there's a history of this. I mean back in london There was a place called bedlam and in the victorian times you could pay to go and watch mad people And now we have entertainments like the x-factor where you can just you know, watch People who are delusional Around the talent that they may or may not have here. I suspect we have somebody You know with the best will in the world probably what we have is is somebody who could be Delusional or they're promoting a book, but they could be delusional They could have created this world in order to deal with the trauma And we've seen that throughout history because we get the idea of hysteria from it which comes from the the goddess Hestia, which was the goddess of the woman's Reproductive organs and what people have found over time is that around trauma around female reproductive organs There is a huge amount of energy And emotion which can be turned into what people then call the madness And you could go and watch people enact that madness Anybody cast the the part where she says uh, so I say they were kind to me and they consented Were they consent consenting to did you hear that part? Yeah, I think she I need to refer to to Her reframing the story to the point where she consented to the sexual activity with the aliens But she says they consented You're right. It's confusing. It gets very very confused given. She's written a book Why is she so why is she so confused about telling the story?  It's not in the rhythm they plant and they come apart. It's the best technique in interrogation She's she's also once again trying to be part of a group because when she says I thought of that I think of them as family. That's why I defend them, you know as if they're family She's trying to make herself part of something I don't know if that's a psychological thing where she's not part of any groups Maybe nobody likes her. She's you know that situation going on and she tries to keep saying us and we and family And I'm having kids and all these things going on because in a few minutes she's going to be talking about how she's divorced So I don't it sounds like I I think a lot of it sounds if we didn't know any better I mean it should be schizophrenic. I mean Well, if this is if this is a trauma genetic thing It most likely happened because of trauma Which also caused dissociation of some sort which could have produced some some degree Of dissociative amnesia, which which we call missing time. Someone's missing time If it did cause dissociative amnesia Dissociation means we kind of there's a partition formed in our brain somewhere And that might mean that the part of her brain that knows that this is Incorrect is starting to come to the surface and is causing more stress and more tension From the part that does believe that For me guys, I'm going to take the simplest route. I'm gonna say No, it's a story And Maslow's hierarchy, you know I'm a firm believer that people wedge themselves into groups and if you're in a crazy group that owns tigers You can get more tigers if you're in a crazy group that believes they've been abducted by ufo's You your stuff has to get sexier. I was on the ship at Ooh, not at 20. They loved me and they grew me to be their person I I think it's back mark. You had the best line ever when you have tigers There's no normal when you believe you're abducted by ufo's Your normal is different than my normal right and and here's how she's skewing that idea is she says You know, I think of them as a different race. They may be a different species My children so she's talking about aliens She's been asked about aliens in this and she says well, I think of them as a different race. She's saying aliens What you say is aliens. They're not really aliens.  They're hybrids so So my guess is, you know with with with, you know Uncle Derek on on the polygraph there I reckon I got uncle Derek on the polygraph and And I've managed to skew the idea of what is an alien I think I can pass the polygraph a lie detector test at least three times Oh, we can show you how to do that. That's not a problem. I'm not Yeah, yeah Exactly how to do that All right. Good anybody else I wouldn't have believed we would get this much out of this. This is fun I wouldn't either. I was completely getting ready to dismiss the whole thing.   So how were they conceived? They were conceived in the usual way Both the human father and I probably have some alien DNA already in us and then at about 12 weeks I was taken up into the spaceship again. I have a clear memory of this. That's where you had sex too, wasn't it in the spaceship? Yes, so so you a lot of people might make a joke about the All the children were conceived on the spaceship. Yes Did you have any say in that? No, no And you know, I'm making the best of this story and I'm trying to be light-hearted about it because I've been through My grieving process and I still have days. I'm upset about it and I miss the children So I say they were kind to me and they consented and I wanted to defend the race because I feel Almost part of them as if they're family. Where did you birth? Well, they were taken from my uterus In the spaceship, but here I had to have dnc's and there was no Correct. Yes Um So doctors were confused every time so they they they removed the babies here No, they'll remove the babies in there And then you had to go to hospital to have a bit of treatment. Well, I did. Yes So did so you you only went to a three month term or something like that? The longest one was five months and then the babies Yeah were put into some sort of test some sort of humidity to bring in space Yeah, they've got way more advanced medical technology in the wedges. There's no question about that But here I would have an ultrasound and there would be a fetus on the ultrasound And I would have positive pregnancy tests and then suddenly the baby would be gone with that and the evidence of that But did you carry the baby for five months? Someone must have noticed you were pregnant I went to a doctor and it was confirmed that I was pregnant. Where is your husband? Um your earth husband. I was divorced by your state. Yes. Okay All right, everybody good? Is Much like any parent separated from their child here on earth and her face beams when she talks of them I've got a girl called claire And then a boy called jude and then another boy called heath and then claire has married another for want of another word humane and on You know in their society and his name's gabriel. They obviously have grey names, but I had to give them some names And she has a baby called Amelia They look quite human only small. So my daughter would be quite tiny. So that's not really my genes That would be the grey genes. She looks like a normal woman. She's just got small boobs Well, Greg, what do you got? Well, the weirdest out of all that I see a disgust signal in the middle of all that If you noticed it's a one standout piece of body language. She's I have to call them something That disgust that's harder for me and you to do And it may or may not be discussed it because women use their nose to communicate it may be a way to bond In a way that we typically don't otherwise why disgust around I have to call them something And I have to call them something It's not like she just coined this phrase. I guarantee you this is something she's used before humane alien humane alien Again, she's doing that her body is getting smaller and decreasing target size as she's telling her story her posture shifting constantly and It's just an outlandish tale is what I see. I don't I don't maybe there's trauma that generated it, but I'm progressively thinking It's an outlandish tale Merck, what do you got? Yeah, so that disgust gesture. I often see that as smelling the rat of your own life sometimes It's it's disgust that you're with performance of telling the story.  What are you doing? I why have you why have you bought me here to do this? This is really This is really annoying for me. Can we get the hell out of here? So so I think you know, there may be some elements of that, but look the re again Like I'm lost in the story I'm kind of lost It's like the first name she says has an upward intonation like she's saying is that a good name Is that do you buy that name? Is that all right? And then she must have got some signal back from the interviewer that says. Yeah, we'll go with that We'll go with that because the rest of the names are downward intonations like she goes. Okay. You bought the first name I'm giving you the second. I'm giving you the third Yeah, and now oh god. I've never gone this far.  Oh, no.  I hate my job I hate my job making I think that's what happens I wonder if she asked again if she asked her their names again if she would remember what she said She said, well, I made those up. They're just they have gray names and there you go That's exactly where I'm going. That's exactly where I'm going. No, that's cool But and again, I think she's trying to blow past this too because she's getting smaller. She's moving She's got she's totally guarding that neck and throat.  She's totally Making herself smaller. I think she's trying to get past this because again I don't think this part of it. She may be in her book or whatever But I don't think she was ready for that and I think maybe and I think that thing about she had a you know Being the grandmother. She hasn't said that yet. But when she says she had a kid too or whatever I think that just jumped out. I think just as she's trying to add her qualifiers to make it more believable It's just and she had a kid You know, it's look at her. She's jumping out.  You know, yeah They're wiggling to get out of the chair looking Yeah, yeah Totally agree with you. I was watching this earlier today And I saw the same behavior she that was something like they're buying this I'm gonna throw in an extra detail this time And you've heard her from the beginning. There's confirmation glances Oh, yeah Go request for approval. Greg calls it Yeah When they say she beamed when she mentioned her children her face let up that didn't happen No through facial expressions fade off of the face False facial expressions. We've got four of the top in the world here False facial expressions stop For years go up and they disappear because there's no energy behind keeping the eggman talks about that How there's nothing keeping those things stuck there. It's just there and then gone Another thing is there's a guy named doc Watson. I think I've heard you guys I've told you guys about him's guitar players. My dad's best friend grew up with him. He's blind guy He was blind. It's my dad's age. I didn't grow up with him, but I grew up and he was there all the time and When he would smile and I could tell when we'd be telling jokes and things he would say something was funny But when he really didn't think it was funny His smile would leave really quickly because he's never seen anybody He doesn't know to like gradually back that thing down He would just smile real big and all of a sudden it'd be gone You know, so but there there are ways around that I'm sure in in the World of the blind but in that in that situation It would just go quickly and I remember as a kid thinking why is that happening come to find out later on What we just talked about So and I think that's I think that's I think you're eye-chasing think that's what's going on there And she's just trying to like blow her eye past it as she's As she's slipping down the hill, you know trying to catch herself You know Greg what do you got anything else? No, no, that's all of that movement all of that shrinking all of that's not normal posturing You know if you talk about your children, you're proud. You're talking about your children You uncover your throat. It's one of those things one of those moments upright If I ask you about your kids everyone on here would raise your chin as you talk not Slump away like a dog in a fight right with your chin over your throat There's one more thing that's not here anywhere pretty much Is when we talk about truthful things that are emotional or real or fun or sad Our eye muscles move as we're saying the words if you talk about my if I'm talking about my kids I'm I'm going to say I've got two kids and you're going to see that small movements in the eye muscles You'll see squinting Uh facial expressions that match it. She's obviously good at narrating with her body. She says I'm in this big round room And then nothing else is narrated for the rest of the thing and she grabs the crib and looks over the crib Yeah, it doesn't anything else But those themselves are qualifiers as you're adding to you have to create that picture in your mind When I'm teaching entrepreneurs how to pitch I say you got to build this picture in your mind that they can pop out and put in somebody else's head That's what she's doing because even when they describe their business I haven't do specific things mark knows about that I haven't do specific things so it builds that picture in their mind. That's what she's doing She's using that those are qualifiers those are qualifiers in other words right out of the gate as she's starting to tell She's building this story this picture for you to take with you and give somebody else if need be That's what she's told she has told that story so many times She's got it down to a pantomime kind of thing But when she gets to a hard question about how many kids she has and what their names are And now she's got to kind of reach back and pull it out Any of that kind of stuff going. Yeah, she should have gone. She should have asked the one. What's that new kid's name? I would love that. It was uh You can see the deer in the headlights. Look. Yeah. Yeah, see that's our tv show right there Talking to do this let us know what their what are their grade names? We would love to hear those Yeah, I would love to hear that because she's going to make up some sleast that kind of sounding stuff They know what she's got to do is say wait a minute. I'm going to write those down. What were they again? And then she's like, uh, you wouldn't be able to pronounce them. I can hear coming out in episodes. Ah, that's good. You're right Well, I think there's a huge difference as well between the first names that she comes up with and then the last one which is gabriel Which is uh, you know, obviously has a has a biblical connotation to it My guess is is that comes right from her unconscious and and and the christian upbringing Uh, that she she grabs onto something iconic. Whereas the other names are kind of quite Ordinary, you know, they're not so extraordinary and then suddenly it's like and then they named one after an angel Yeah, the biggie Much like any parent separated from their child here on earth and her face beams when she talks of them I've got a girl called claire And then a boy called jude and then another boy called heath and then claire has married another for want of another word humalian on You know in their society and his name's gabriel they obviously have gray names, but I had to give them some names And she has a baby called Amelia They look quite human only small so my daughter would be quite tiny So that's not really my jeans that would be the gray jeans. She looks like a normal woman.  I would love a selfie. I would love my children to stand here and meet you. Yeah, but How do you talk to them? But I can speak some telepathically or audibly because they're human as well Do they can speak english? Yes, they can And have you only seen them this once? Yeah. Well, yeah, I remember that was in response to me Basically chucking a little tanty in my head. No, I this is not fair.  I want answers I want to know why where I went last night and why and And I want to meet my children and you know within a short time of Of thinking that and and crying for them Um, I was taken and I got to meet them and I got to hug them And they'll you know, they'll physical beings and I could touch and it was I I tear up just thinking that was a very emotional time All right Chase go ahead I would like to meet a human who describes their children as physical beings Yeah, man. You just did boom. Yeah, you yeah, you saw Even if you're tigers Nobody does that And and it's just more selling to the story Yeah, the reaction when she says do you talk to them?  He's shocked a little bit Freeze the body language stops and a break in eye contact, which is not accessing.  Yeah and I This was the most deceptive to me the most deceptive piece of the entire video And if I was to give this one clip a score of deception, it would be a hundred percent There right chase. I couldn't agree with you more a few things. So she says Just thinking about them makes me emotional and looks down into her left Which I love because that's exactly the opposite of emotion. That's an internal conversation So I'm going over and I'm going What do I say next? Yeah When people become emotional about a story if you ask me about the most traumatic moment of my life I'm going to be emotional even if I don't cry. You're going to see my head tilt You're going to hear voice and language associated with that not a rambling diatribe of mixed words About physical beings and now they don't just have telepathy, but they have telepathy attached to long distance So she can rant in her head and they show up suddenly This is getting more and more Of a story guys. This is a story that she's created and she's probably going to get more details for her book out of this interview because this Things she hadn't Thought of I'm with you chase. There's no Methodical process driven thing here. She's just throwing out junk to see what was stick and I think if there's one thing that shows the The reason that this could be trauma genetic is how she describes. I want to see my kids I miss those kids. I wanted to meet those. I wanted to meet my kids But no emotion no emotion when she does it right and she calls them the kids You know, but it's again. I see her. I see her in panic mode here. She's trying to get out of this She's trying to get out as quick as she can. It's almost like I'll see y'all later on man. Take it easy She's like scooching away from her and getting smaller.  She continues to say it was an emotional time Doesn't describe crying on the couch doesn't describe overeating or crying at her friend's house or calling friends She didn't say it was an emotional experience. Right. It was an emotional time It's a descriptor not a not not an explanation, right? And when you use those kind of descriptors, that's storytelling Because you're not thinking about how I felt if I ask you about seer school Chase and I say tell me about seer school.   He's not going to go. Well, I remember the day when I first opened the door and looked around Bad actors who haven't been in that situation Mime out the actions Good actors Don't avoid the emotion they dive into the emotion and they go through the emotion bad actors Stay away From the emotion and they and they move away from the emotion by trying to show us the actions That that happened and that's what we're seeing with her is we see A lot of actions around it and we don't see her Dive into the the emotion now we could say okay. Well, there could be trauma there She's avoiding that or she sublimated the trauma Into a story So we could give her the benefit of the doubt around that if we wanted to say You know, she's not opportunist and she's not just trying to Sell a book. Okay The other thing that I I'd like to say about this is really about good ways of interviewing people for people who are thinking Well, how can I get the truth out of people? One of the best things you can do is just shut up and say nothing and here The interviewer gets a moment because because she says I think she says something like I would like you to meet them, but And an interviewer the interviewer dives in there because it's dead air And goes, okay, let's get another question in the best thing A good interviewer would have done there in terms of trying to get the the truth is to just Say nothing and let her fill the space of thought And if she doesn't fill it say but what tell me Tell me what what do you want to say? Because I think there was something interesting going to happen after that, but Yeah, I think they had just a short amount of time to talk to her They got somebody's cousin or brother or a friend of somebody's from work Who knew how to do who had the uh, you know the lie detector app You know, it's just the whole thing. Just is this rinky dinky from but of course look what they're talking about How can you take it that seriously?  I believe her, you know, I see things like this that that that I've seen everything truthful That'd be one thing, but it just doesn't you know People can believe a lot of things in their head and tell you what is their truth That's not even going on here Yeah There all right, so let's do this. Let's let's throw it around the room We'll kind of give a 15 20 second wrap up what we think is going on what you think's happened and then We'll bring it to a close mark you and go first Yeah, I think if we want to give it the benefit of the doubt then we're looking at somebody with Trauma if we don't want to do that then we're looking at somebody who's written a book and they'd like to sell it Okay chase Yeah, I think we're seeing somebody here who is dealing with feeling outcast And feeling rejected from social circles has made up a story for whatever reason And has has written a book about it and this book is designed to bring her back Into those circles and that's one of the reasons that we see This this sign and one thing I'd love for everybody to do is just one to a hundred. What's the Percentage of truth indicators that you saw in this story Hmm. Okay, Greg Yeah, so for me Like both of you I see indicators of deception people telling a story Usually have a story that they develop over time and they remember this is a war story thing, right? You keep injecting new material when you injecting that new material you get flight or flight She's squirming. She's dancing. She's trying to get away I think it's simply when she was 10 or 12 or 20 or some point in her life She started telling a story and I think that story has grown and grown and grown and grown I'd love to know more about when this first happened or if she had an epiphany in 1992 Or when it actually occurred if if I were chase if you're asking me 10 to 15 percent right 10 to 15 percent of what she said is true Now that doesn't mean that she's just an outright liar. She's telling a story. I mean, yeah Okay, I think it's one of those things where she's retired from being a nurse And that's who she was that was her identity and now she's the lady who has Humalians, you know, she said that's who she that's her identity now Because the other one's been taken away for whatever reason she doesn't look like she's old enough to retire But maybe she is or something but for some reason She's not there and doesn't have that group because she kept talking about groups and people and us and we And I think that's that's who she is now. That's who she's become with that I think on a the the truth that we're seeing this I want to give it about I'm gonna say nine percent. I'm going to load 10 percent Truth indicators Well, she gave her name That's true. That's there you go. There's nine percent. So mark, what percentage do you give it? I mean Zero honesty around around being abducted by actual Extra terrestrials. I think she feels she's been quite honest About giving birth to hybrids I think that's I think she believes That and if you and so it's it's either an intellectual skewing of Of that and so it really comes down to what does she believe? I think she believes That it's okay to tell us a story Where she skews the nature of that story.  I want to talk to this woman If I had a prisoner sitting across the table from me and they were squirming around as much as she is I would not believe a word they said during the time And so for me if we just take into account I agree She could be it could be traumatic and if it is Then we have a mental a mental health issue right versus to somebody who is BSing and making stuff up. Does that make sense? Yeah, I go with 10 on on my end as well Okay, cool I think this is a good one I think it's and and let's try to find another one to something like this to interject in between our of our serious stuff You know let's move on we'll do Find something else All right, so I think that went well. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, that was fun One more than I expected.  We just took apart Yeah, oh, yeah, oh bless his heart


recently are serving somewhere? No sir, I am not one. Have you served somewhere? No sir. Student speaker, what is this forensic exposition? Sir, I have done my graduation in forensic science. So, we had a exposition conducted by our university in which we opened up how forensic investigation and evidence is catered to in the labs to majorly college and school students as well as to personnel from the Mumbai police. Sir, it is actually forensic physics and because forensic science is the applications of science and criminal justice system. So, physics and chemistry all of it which has components which is helping in solving crimes. For example, in chemistry we learn toxicology and in physics we learn ballistics of weapons. See, judicial reforms, there is a lot of scope of all types of reforms in the country. There is police reforms, election reforms, judicial reforms. For judicial reforms, some months, months tax are being taken. Do you remember the last few days or months what tax have been taken or by the Supreme Court it is? Sir, firstly, incorporation of technology. For example, soupace was recently launched when AI was used to club cases together for speedy disposal and there has been concerns of delay in appointment of judges. So, recently the Collegium has also passed more number of judges and sent it to the government. Has it been sent to the government? Yes sir, today it has been sent. Yes sir, and it includes three women judges. It has been sent to the... I am sorry sir, I have not updated in the recent news and in the morning when I read this, this was what? Sir, other than that the... Sometime the Supreme Court has given shine slots of different advocates on the respondent side, I guess on the side. Because the senior advocates and the staff speaking they speak for hours. I am sorry sir, I am not aware of this I will have to read on it. Okay, and now again I think I am understanding that the government has started a system of giving alerts that alert, green alert, like that. No sir, I don't understand. But it is a tendency to do on the basis for many number of times. Now government has started a system of giving this alerts. It is three times green signal, more than three times orange than red signal. Okay sir, thank you sir. Robin Hood Army, you would have heard of? Yes sir, I have heard of it. Sir, it works as an NGO wherein they cater to people who are not very privileged and they provide them with food and as well as other things like clothes. Now they are starting from another initiative other than food. Vaccination? Sir, I was not aware of the vaccination. Because this Robin Hood Army I think is mostly Maharashtra? Yes sir, they are active in Maharashtra as well. Some tribunals have been abolished. Yes sir. How many? Just seven tribunals have been abolished. Yes sir. And sometime back the government issued an ordinance for abolishing those tribunals and some other qualifications that we had adopted. Which was held void by the tribunals. And same act has been passed. All those tribunals act has again been passed. I don't know. What is the tribunals about it? Sir, the Chief Justice of India has mentioned that because they do not have the the bill was passed without due debates and discussions. The intention of the government is not known to the courts. So they raised concern in how the bill was passed. And now it is again being challenged in the court. So it will further give it. The nomination of MNC is in Maharashtra. Yes sir. How is the news? Some MNC is, I think Chodner has powered to nominate some MNC to the Maharashtra. Legislative concept. Yes. There is some controversy on that. Sir, I have to read out the controversy. I am sorry. Okay. On this day, all the CMs will take something about it. We are going to do this policy. We are going to do this. Anything that is told by Maharashtra seems. Sir, I have to read about it. Yes, City. Yes, sir. It is the International Financial Place. It is in Kandinagar. So the financial institutions there cater to the businesses which are not present in India. For example, the international financial companies. Also, the businesses can take the same. Yes, sir. Okay. You, in the second we are referring to the interview. Yes. Last time, who was the deputy? Sir, I scored 160. 160. What do you understand? The rule of law. Sir, rule of law was given by Amy Dicey. And he conceptualized that law has to be equal for all. And nobody should be kept above the law. And anyone, if they are punished, it should be based on a clear legal provisions. Is it being strictly followed in India? Yes, sir. I believe it has been strictly followed in India. We have proper laws, the IPCC, CRPC as well as different legislations based on which people have been convicted. And if not, they have been acquitted also, sir. What is rule by law? Sir, rule by law. It was recently in discussion when the Chief Justice of India also mentioned it. It is when the power is with the rule makers and the law is made on whims, not based on core principles of rule of law. So, it is mostly followed in, it causes arbitrariness in law because it is dependent on the whims and fancies of law makers. Now, rule by law makes, but it is strictly made in a high level. So, firstly, Krishi Udan and Krishi Rain, there were agricultural reforms so that perishable substances can be moved from place to place. See, what they say, Krishi Udan, that is interesting. What is that? Sir, Krishi Udan tries to ensure perishables are moved through aircraft so that there can be faster disposal of... Is it being done anywhere? Sir, I would have to check if it has already been implemented. I am not aware of that. Sir, the national infrastructural pipeline was also mentioned in the budget. It was proposed earlier also, but it was sanctioned in this year's budget wherein 100 crore infrastructural projects were to be proposed. And sir, in taxation reforms, it was said that... How about the health sector? How can it be the health sector? I am sorry, sir. 35,000 crores were assigned for vaccination and there was also a proposal for an Ayushman Atmanirbar Bharat Health Program. Is this 1000 crores for vaccination? Sir, 35,000 crores. What is gender budgeting? Sir, gender budgeting is... The idea is to look at the provisions in a budget through the lens of gender on how any policy that we are taking, how it impacts the genders differently. In India, it was started in 2005. And presently, there are two provisions. There are party and party. Party looks like schemes specifically for women. For example, Janani Siraksha Yojana. And party looks at... In all schemes, there should be some amount specified for women. For example, in Mandrega also, women are key beneficiaries. Very good. You are after police also, right? Yes. Second, yes. Do you know any ex-police commissioner who is very high? Yes, sir. Julia Rubero and Rakesh Madhya Sir. But today, what is happening? Represent one or two cases? Yes, sir. Recently, we saw the case of Mumbai Police Commissioner, which was a sorry state of affair. There have been concerns of politicization of the police force. And cases of corruption. Which is why police reforms need to be taken very seriously. And there needs to be a strong political will to ensure that the Prakarsing Judgement case is also implemented in letter and in spirit. You remember Prakarsing is an accommodation. Any measure? Yes, sir. Just tell me two measures. Any more report now? Yes, sir. First is law and order and investigation has to be separated. He also talks about institutionalizing a police complaints authority so that people can complain against police, a police establishment board so that the police is isolated from political interference in their appointments. And a state security commission as well to again safeguard the police. And also to fix a tenure for the DGP for two years at least. What do you think of the encounter thing? Sir, it showcases a real rot in the system, in the entire criminal justice system because there is an acceptance for this culture from the people because they think that justice is otherwise very delayed. So this is seen as instant justice. And even the police who undertake such fake encounters, they are not really convicted for this crime. Which is why it is a crime that is perpetuated. So I think the solution would be to first spread this, train the police that this is wrong and ensure forensic science is up to date so that we would not need to use such third degree methods for getting instant crime. As well as civil society also needs to be guided that this is wrong and it should not be given societal acceptance. Last question. You still keep track of happenings in Badakartanam. Yes. So they were connected recently. Who bought from Badakartanam and lost? Sir, Esh, Rida and Sir, who was known as the Metro man fought from Badakartanam. Thank you. So what inspired you to take this policy science? Ma'am, when I was in class 11, where we have to take this lecture, I had biotechnology as one of my subjects and most of the principles that we learnt for forensic science had it, its application was in forensic science and we had a introductory chapter to forensic science as well, which stoked up my interest and I read a little bit more about it and I was searching on how I can pursue a degree in it and I found it in Mumbai itself, so then I found it. So you have been living in Kerala also, have you lived in Kerala or do you keep on going to Kerala, visit Kerala? Sir, ma'am I do visit Kerala. So if you have to compare Kerala and Mumbai with respect to law and order, so what will be your view? Ma'am, Mumbai because it's a financial capital, the NCRB says that most of the crimes there are financial and economic crimes, whereas in Kerala also we see that there is a high reporting of crimes against women, it could also be because the awareness amongst the women in Kerala is more and the police is more citizen friendly, so we see that crimes against women are also in the right and there are other social crimes also that happen in Kerala which we do not see happening a lot in Mumbai, for example we see more of dowry that's which was recently in use in Kerala which because Bombay is more urbanised and cosmopolitan we do not find such cases there and I think if we draw positives I think both the police forces, Mumbai police force as well as Kerala police force has been always viewed as a very citizen centric police force and there is a level of trust in both these places with the police so I think law and order is not a major issue in both these areas So can you tell us something new which is happening in forensic science? Ma'am forensic science keeps evolving as technology is also adapting a recent one would be a video spectral comparator where in forgery cases are easily through this instrument we can see an overwriting we can see any sort of forgery in the notes as well which is something that has recently been developed and is being used widely abroad and even India has certain labs where this provision is in touch DNA is another prominent thing because earlier we needed blood or bones to extract DNA now we can take it from skin cells so even if I touch a bottle my DNA could be extracted from that area which has revolutionized how evidence is gathered other than that ma'am I think far I am sorry ma'am Any famous case which has been solved due to forensic science? Ma'am forensic science may not have directly helped in solving but corroborative evidence even in Nirbhaya case we saw that the youngest persons due to the bite marks which is a part of forensic odontology they could nail the fact that that person also was involved in the crime against the world other than that the Nithari cases in which the bones were mapped to showcase how many victims were there that was also a big achievement for forensic science in India the Sheena Bora case is also another case a DNA tracing showcase that there was a lineage between the two Now coming to public administration you know what is GEM? Yes ma'am it is government e-market So what is the purpose of GEM? Ma'am at present government procures many utilities and this is an online platform in which government directly procures from the sellers and another advantage of this GEM is first of all it brings transparency and it is also mandated that around 25% of it has to come from MSMEs so it brings a streamlining of government procurement So if you are in the administration if you have to buy something for your office so would you prefer a private vendor or would you go in for GEMs? Ma'am GEM also if I am not mistaken has private vendors participating in GEM I would go through GEM because this portal ensures that we could get the best prices we can compare the prices and also gives an opportunity for smaller players to also rise to the occasion so in administration we should promote such smaller players which is why I would choose GEM Does it also checks corruption? Yes ma'am because there is an online track of everything there are chances of corruption also reduces and as I mentioned transparency is there in the sanction so it does help in preventing corruption So in your hobby is watching TED talks So what is the full form of TED? Technology, entertainment and design So any TED talk which has inspired you? Ma'am there was one talk by Sheryl Sandberg who is the CEO of Facebook in which she talks about why we have such few women leaders which I feel is very inspiring because she talks about how there is a glass ceiling for women and they do not become leaders and she talks about what women should also do there are many changes that has to come from institutions but as women she says that we are very we try to hide our potential we feel that we ourselves also try to limit our potential and so she was talking about how women do not negotiate for a proper salary which men can do with ease So she mentions stories from her organization as well as others and why I find it inspiring is post that TED talk she also set up organizations in different countries where now women are raising a voice to have equal pay in different organizations She works for Facebook and it is called a Leanin She also wrote a book called Leanin so they are called Leanin circles And last question, debating So do we have any debates in India with respect to politicians, politicians or parliament are there any debates which are happening in India? Ma'am we have national youth debates I am not aware of what it is called I do not think we have political debates we have it only in the parliament but in other countries they have it during elections as well What is your view on US presidential debates when there is US presidential elections So any debate which you have liked Have you seen those US presidential debates? Yes ma'am So any particular debate which you would like to mention here? Ma'am I am not able to recollect any of them now but I think most of it give a clear idea to the voters as to what the stand of people are It also gives a platform in which people can see the faults in the arguments of the whichever party they do not want to be and also see the merits in their argument So I think India should strive towards reading That was one nice next question actually which is you have already answered it Thank you What are the advantages and disadvantages having politics in your area? So the advantage is that it is easy for me to remember because it is my name and my interest the disadvantages I get made fun of quite a lot because people have a different image of foreign science based on what they have watched on television So we have a foreign secretary as a foreign minister now and he is doing a good job So what do you think we should have more experts who would be called chairing ministries let us say an IPS officer for defence or internal security or a revenue service officer for finance What is your take on that? Sir it is definitely an advantage to have an expert at the position of a minister but we cannot really mandate it because the situation in our country is such that we need people's representatives to also hold positions of power but as our country progresses we can even though it cannot be a mandated thing we can nudge political parties to give people with experience and with ground they have ground experience to such ministries So you have a concept for lateral entry Can you tell me something about this? So lateral entry in bureaucracy means that at the joint secretary level or above people have brought in from the private sector at a later stage of their career which is as opposed to the present career service wherein people are appointed from the junior level and they rise up the ranks What is the rate for this? So first of all they bring fresh perspective in policy making and they bring expertise and it will also ensure that there is a bit of competition within the bureaucracy also and complacency is reduced Backing NPAs Can you tell me the status of backing NPAs? Sir right now the NPA stands at about 7.3% which has reduced over the past few years The recent RBI report also says that due to the pandemic it can rise up to 13.5% by September However sir I think with the 4R method of recognition and of recapitalization and of resolution and reform we are trying to reduce our NPA position and I am optimistic that it might be Do you think we lack scientific investigation methods in policy in the country? Sir I would agree with that statement mostly because the forensic science as the subject is still evolving in our country and when we interacted with Mumbai Police we realized that the kind of importance that scientific investigation should get is usually not been given The entire blame also cannot be put on the police because the quality of our labs are not up to the mark the number of labs that we have are also not up to the mark which causes delays in such investigation as well but now recently the Home Minister has spoke for a National Forensic Science University and different state governments are also having these labs and police training is also being taken up so I think that now we do realize the importance of scientific investigation How does a degree in forensic science help you in your life today? Sir there might not be a direct impact in my day to day life but there are a few skills that I have learnt that I try to have an eye for detail and a scientific temperament and I stick to a schedule because we have a time limit when we have to do our analysis in the lab so a few traits that I have learnt in forensic science do help me although there might not be a direct implication on daily life Can you tell us about the public policy and research internship with members of Parliament? Yes sir Can we do an internship with? So right, in terms of the YSRCP party there were 22 MPs in the party in Lok Sabha How was your experience? What did you learn? Sir it was a very enriching experience firstly I got to visit the Parliament of this country secondly I got a deeper understanding on how policy is made and I also had the opportunity to form supplementary questions for the questioner as well as formulate speeches for MPs who so demanded it also made me realize that there are some shortcomings in how the Parliament works and which is why I think it has given me a further push to somehow enter policy making in the future course of my life Tech Talks vs. Josh Talks What are the reasons? Sir I have watched just one or two Josh Talks I think the general theme is about how people overcome any hardship that they face and it's an Indian based company if I am not mistaken Sir I would not be able to completely compare What do you read about fiction? Sir the major genre would be drama as well as a few classes Have you read any fiction which is related to politics science? Sir when I was a child I had dead Sherlock Holmes but not in the recent times


7. Free agent slash signings for the Los Angeles Lakers to target right now. With the Lakers unsure of the Kauai Leonard situation and also DeMarca's cousins, it makes the whole of next season very interesting to say the least. Whilst the LeBron James and Anthony Davis duo is arguably the greatest duo in the league next season, with no Kevin Durant and a return of Anthony Davis onto the court, as great as LeBron James and Anthony Davis are, it takes a team to win a championship, not just two great players. Now, the Lakers have a minor problem. They have waited too long in this year's NBA Free Agency period to not go all out on Kauai Leonard, but they have also waited too long to where they lost a few pieces they could have otherwise gained if they hadn't gone for Kauai Leonard to make their team an all-around good team. We all knew before the start of the Free Agency that the Lakers had two options. One was to get a third superstar alongside LeBron and Davis with a mediocre and minimum contract bench, and the second option was obviously to surround LeBron and Davis with solid players and a good all-around team. The players that they were going to target weren't all-star level players, but were just very solid players. Players who played their role and do it very, very well. They were the tier under all-star level players. Players like JJ Redick, Patrick Beverly, DeAndre Jordan, Bojan Bogdanovich, Trevor Reza, Bobby Porters, Thaddeus Young, I could keep going on and on, but you get the point. All these players are just very solid players and they all would have fit very well on the Lakers, especially players like JJ Redick, Patrick Beverly and Trevor Reza to name a few. These guys just play their roles extremely well. But to be fair, the Lakers have managed to get Troy Daniels on a one-year $2 million deal, which is a pretty good replacement as they haven't really gained any other shooting guards and it doesn't seem like they'll go back to Lance Stevenson and the rest of the guys from last season like Cadwell Pope. Now, they also got Jared Dudley, who they signed to a one-year $2.6 million deal and whilst he may not get many minutes on this Lakers squad, he's one of the better teammates in the NBA if you didn't know and he's a great player to have in the locker room. It takes some of the pressure off LeBron James and Anthony Davis as he is an old veteran guy that will release some of the pain in the locker room as you just have throughout the season. But that is literally all they have done at the making of this video. So now, how and what do the Lakers do in the situation that they are in? Let's look at seven players that they will have to target with or without the Kawhi Leonard signing. Obviously, their main target is to gain three-point shooters this season and to their credit, Troy Daniels is 40% from three and Jared Dudley is 39% so that addresses some of the weaknesses from last season but it doesn't relieve some of their bench depth just yet. Before we begin, if you enjoyed these sorts of videos, be sure to smash that like button and let's see if we can reach 2,000 likes for the next video, subscribe if you are new to support the channel and let's get into it. Number 7. First of all, if the NBA free agency wasn't crazy enough with KD and Kawhi joining Brooklyn, the D'Angelo Russell signing trade to the Warriors made this even more insane. But this left Iggy being traded to the Memphis Grizzlies. Reports have come out recently that Memphis is not going to wave Iggy but rather trade him off to a new team, leaving the Lakers in a weird situation of how much they value him and how much they want him. I think one second round or two second round picks will do the job for Iggy ending up in LA but that means there are also other teams that will target him, Houston will try and target him, Dallas has been rumored to target him and they'll probably be able to offer the same if not more than what the Lakers can so once again it will just be about how the Lakers value him.  Number 6. Marcus Morris His brother Mark Keith assigned with the Pistons but Marcus Morris is still on the board and he's a player who just played with the Boston Celtics and with the breakup of Kyrie and Al Horford in Boston, I could see Marcus Morris also joining a new team in this year's NBA free agency. If the Lakers miss out on Kauai Leonard I could see the Lakers offering Morris to a little bit of a better contract than any other team could offer him, only for the year though, but I also believe if they can get Kauai Leonard on this team, Morris could still be a guy that could be a fit on this team too. Cardinals stretch forward to play alongside Koosma and LeBron and Davis and if one of them heads to the bench or doesn't play throughout the regular season due to injury or they just rest them, he's a guy that could definitely fit in. He averaged 14 points and 6 rebounds last season but more importantly for the Lakers he shot 37% from 3 which for a big man is actually very solid and he will hit them if the defense collapses on LeBron James and Anthony Davis this season so he'd be a great picker. Number 5. Karl Korva Karl Korva expected to be bought out by the Phoenix Suns now. The Lakers reportedly are amongst the teams in the running according to Wojc on ESPN. With the Grizzlies trading Karl Korva and Javon Bacarda to the Suns for De'Anthony Melton and Josh Jackson, the Suns plan to wave Karl Korva and with his history of playing with LeBron James recently and the chance to play in LA which is arguably the best destination in the NBA, also the chance to compete for another championship and the Lakers actually needing 3-point shooters to where he would actually get some minutes. It's hard to see him not in an LA Lakers jersey next season. Korva may have the opportunity to reunite with LeBron James in LA and perhaps make a third NBA finals appearance which to me is what he will do in my opinion. If he doesn't end up in LA it would be pretty cool to see him in the Philadelphia 76ers I mean that's where it all started and that would be pretty cool too. Number 4. Carmelo Anthony Now I know what you're thinking and every time anyone brings up Carmelo's name there is always a little bit of a risk to his name but just think about this. The thought process for me is that the Lakers are one of the few teams that have been linked to both Amari Stottamaya and Monte Ellis, two players that have been out of the league for a while and who are reaching their mid-30s and for Stottamaya's age he's already 36. So for the Lakers to go after these guys I think you have to put Melo in the conversation too. Monte Ellis and Stottamaya trying to catch on with an NBA contender according to Jordan Schultz of ESPN. The thing is these guys are not what they used to be at all. I literally watched Amari Stottamaya last season in the big 3 and you can tell he is not NBA ready. But Melo actually despite of all his hate last season was in the league although for a short stint he was still in the league and played at a decent pace. 13 points and 5.5 rebounds shooting 32% from 3 which isn't amazing but it is ok. And you'd only imagine that would improve playing off the bench and playing in a lesser role getting more open looks. The Lakers don't need anything from him other to be a spot up shooter off the bench and it's hard to imagine that him being such good friends with LeBron won't get him a chance to play in LA. 3. Quinn Cook I think the Warriors have made a mistake by not getting Quinn Cook back but understandable as they have D'Angelo DeRussell and Stephen Currys on the same team and obviously their point guard situation is a little bit iffy at the moment. But as for the Lakers, if they can sign a player like Quinn Cook who is now an unrestricted free agent as the Warriors are not going to match his restriction, he emerges someone that was a really solid player for the Warriors and when the Warriors were forced to deal with multiple injuries at the guard position, he was a guy that had his chance and made the most of it. Obviously he is the point guard which the Lakers desperately need now and if the Lakers managed to get him and a potential chance of bringing back Rondo, it could give the Lakers two very different dynamics. Cook took advantage of his opportunity and left a strong impression averaging 9.5 points, almost 3 assists and 2.5 rebounds in just 22 minutes per game in the 2017-18 season when he needed to step up for the Warriors during their injury riddled stint. Cook shot 40% from 3 which is really good and he would be a great fit for the Lakers if they can get him especially as a backup point guard. 2. Rajan Rondo, yeah I know he played with the Lakers last season but I think he has to come back this season too. He's the guy who advanced Anthony Davis's game when he played with Davis and obviously he didn't do all that bad last season. Of course it wasn't the best he has ever done but Rondo is ending his career. This is the guy that the Lakers need to bring back though. He will probably play for the minimum contract and his basketball IQ is off the charts. While his own physical ability on the defense event isn't the same as what it once was, his IQ and ability to help a quarterback defense with Anthony Davis now on the squad should make for one of the scariest units in the entire league. Not to mention if they do get Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green follows it could become scary. Rondo's defense, Green's defense, Kawhi's defense, Davis's defense and LeBron if he decides to actually play defense that is just scary. And number one, DeMarcus Cousins. This is the guy that if Kawhi is not a member of the Lakers I think you just have to take a little bit of a risk on. As the other centers such as Boban and Robin Lopez have managed to find NBA contracts before DeMarcus Cousins which you could never imagine two years ago. The former All-Star is now in a bit of a dire situation. He's got a new agent hiring Jeff Swartz of the XL Sports according to Mark Steiner of the New York Times and won't report it that there is literally no suitors for DeMarcus Cousins, this free agency. There's not a market for him Scott and I think and it's not, I think he thought he hoped some big market teams would strike out that have cap space he could get a one year 12, 15, 18, 20 million dollar deal. It's not there. That's not happening. I don't even know if there's a mid-level exception he got in Golden State last year. I don't think that's there for him. Wow. No one is going after him except the Miami Heat who will have a meeting with him. And now recently there have been reports that the Spurs and DeMarcus Cousins are now recruiting him, which low key if he ends up going to the Spurs, that is another free agency prediction that I got correct. But let me go back to this. I just think that these two teams will try and get him for the low and they won't try to pay him a lot of money at all. But honestly the Lakers miss out on Kauai Leonard. They will have some cap space and maybe they'll be able to offer boogie more than any other team and therefore he could be a member of the Lakers. I mean we've seen him play alongside Anthony Davis before. Unfortunately we didn't get to see him in the playoffs, but if L.A. offers the most amount of money for this season alone, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in L.A. Here are two honorable mentions. I think if J.R. Smith falls, I think the Lakers will try and get him. Obviously they'll have to trade for him, but I just think a second round pick will probably do the job. And the second guy is Danny Green. If the Lakers end up with Kauai Leonard, I have no doubt that Danny Green will follow him. And obviously he's an ex teammate of LeBron James as well and they had a close relationship. So Danny Green would be the second guy and he would be the perfect fit. A 3 and D guy for the Lakers is exactly what they need. With that said, let me know what you think is next for the Los Angeles Lakers. If you enjoyed this video, be sure to subscribe if you're new. Leave a like on the video. Let's see if we can reach 2,000 likes and I'll upload the next video tomorrow. Be sure to hit that notification button and follow me on Instagram and I'm out. Peace.


Hey, this is Brett and this 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L is stock number 23J164A. I am here as Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. You're new and used Jeep and Jeep Grand Cherokee headquarters. This 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited has a 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 engine. It's paired up with the 8-speed automatic transmission. This Jeep has been fully-safetyed and inspected by our service shop. It has a fresh oil and filter change, all the fluids have been checked and topped off, and it is 100% ready to go. A couple of neat things about this Jeep, it is a one-owner clean title history from right here in Wisconsin. It has the trailer tow prep group and is super clean all the way around, and that's exactly what I'm going to do in this video, go all the way around inside, start it up, take a look under the hood, show you all the options and give you the most accurate representation that I can of the vehicle. Red velvet pearl coats of color should all my videos in 4K. If you like the video, subscribe to the YouTube channel, click the bell notifications, get updates on the videos I do each and every day, as well as having access to one of the largest catalogs of vehicle walk-arounds on YouTube. This one comes with the painted and polished aluminum wheels, and it has Michelin Primacy LTX tires. These are 26560R18s, and I would say that they have probably about 50-60% of the tread left on them, under bodies in really nice shape. Front fender is in excellent condition, I didn't see any dents or dings on there, it does have the LED headlamps, LED fog lamps, and the LED running lights. I will turn all those on at the end of the video so you can see just how bright they are. You do get the chrome-trimmed grille, and that bumper is absolutely perfect. No scuffs or scrapes. The hood is in excellent condition as well, I didn't see any dents or dings on there, and the passenger side front fender is absolutely perfect. Passenger side front wheel, no scuffs or scrapes on there, red velvet pearl coats got just a little bit of metal flake to it, really a cool color, looks really good. And as you go down this side of this 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited L, take note of how clean the body is, how reflective and mirror-like that paint is. I take these HD videos so if you're far away or even if you're close by and you just cannot make a trip down, but you're still interested in purchasing the vehicle, you can see the vehicle, hear the vehicle, and have confidence in what you're looking at before you even get here. So when you do get here, there's absolutely no surprises, and you can make a smart and informed buying decision from wherever you're at. Now if this video helps you make that buying decision, let your salesman know that you saw the video, it was helpful and that Brett sent you. Back wheel is in excellent shape, and the back tires have just as much tread as the front tires. And around to the back of the vehicle, you do get the LED tail lamps, the backup parking sensors. Like I said, this one has the trailer tail prep group, so it doesn't have the receiver hitch, but it does have the full-size spare, and you can take this cover off, and that's where your hitch would go, but you get the full-size spare, you get the rear load leveling suspension, so you get a little bit of weight on the back, it'll automatically pump it back up. Back storage area is very clean as well. These seats do fold down for extra storage, and you can see just how nice and flat they go, and they fold back up like so. You get a storage area under there, that's how you get your tire down, and there's jack tools right there. To get this gate closed, you press this button, it'll beep at you three times and then begin its descent. You can see that is working nicely. Going down the driver's side, just clean as that passenger side. No major dents or dings on the rear quarter or door, and for full disclosure, this back wheel, excellent condition as well. All the wheels are very nice on this vehicle. This one does have the capitalist fuel fill, which is a really nice feature. Never get gas on your hands again. And down the rest of this side of the vehicle, doors look really good. Does have the enter and go system, the mirrors have the heating element, the blind spot monitor, and built-in directional signals on there. Take a look at the back seats here, second row quad seating. No rips or tears on these seats. You get the latch child safety system. This one does have the fam cam or the rear camera. Seats go down like so. Those third row seats are in excellent condition as well. No rips or tears. And to get this seat up, you can go like that and see it slides forward to get to that third row, then goes back down like so. These back quad seats are heated rear air controls. You also get two USBs, two USB C's in 115 volt, 150 watt plug-in. Two cup holders back there as well. And the child safety locks on the back doors inside and bottoms of the doors. All look fantastic on this vehicle. Like I said, this is a one owner clean title history, clean car fax from right here in Wisconsin. There is your VIN sticker. No previously owned in Canada vehicles here. Front seats, you get the black leatherette. No rips, no tears. Both these front seats are heated and power. Driver's side lumbar, factory floor mats up front, auto headlamps. Get the nice wood grain trim on the doors and dash. Power windows, locks, mirrors, and it does have a memory driver's seat. A top and side check out the miles, radio, and everything that this one has to offer on the interior. You can see it has the 12 inch LCD display, 9,938 miles on this one. And a really nice display. Digital, you get a compass and an outside temperature display. Has the heated leather wrapped and wood grain trim steering wheel. You get the wood grain trim down there. Cruise controls, adaptive cruise controls on the right. Bluetooth and information center controls on the left. Audio controls on the back of the steering wheel. And you do have the paddle shifters there for your sport mode push button start. This one has the 10.1 inch UConnect 5 radio. You get AM, FM, and Sirius XM radio capabilities, as well as Bluetooth, USB, Augs, and Alexa hookups. Here are your climate controls, including your dual climate controls, including your heated seats and steering wheel controls. And this one does have the factory navigation system. This is the UConnect 5 system. So it's supposed to be five times faster than the UConnect 4 system. There is Highway 41. So you can see that is working nicely. And then you get all your different apps on here. I'm not going to go through everything. But basically, these are just links to different parts of the radio. You get Comfort, Nav, phone, which is basically the same links as down here. And then you get your vehicle settings. This is really the only thing that's really different. You get your backup camera with the nice HD crystal clear screen. And that's to get hooked up to your boat camper or trailer if you did put a hitch on this one. And then you can zoom in on that where the hitch would be. And then also you have the FAM cam. And you can see the third row, second row. Now, if you wanted to zoom in on a specific seat, perhaps a kid is misbehaving in that seat. You can see what they're doing. And yeah, pretty cool. And you can actually see me right there. So that's a really cool system that they have. And you don't have to turn around and see what's going on behind you. You get your off-road pages here as well. You get your steering angle. As I turn that steering, you can see the wheels actually turn and the angle changes, which is pretty cool. Get your transfer case if it's locked or unlocked. Rear axle if it's locked or unlocked. Latitude, longitude, and altitude. You also get your accessory gauges, pitch and roll, and select terrain. And that's part of this system right here. So as I press that, you can see it goes to snow, sand, mud, auto. And I'm pretty sure sport goes to a racetrack. Yep, there we go. So that's pretty cool. And then you can use the paddle shifters with that. Anyways, that's everything with the radio. I've got a couple more apps and stuff down here. I did notice you can put the third row headrest down. That's pretty nifty. Down here's your 8-speed automatic transmission. Two USBs, two USB-C's, and an aux jack. And then you get your keyless entry with your remote start and power lift gate. Pastner side dash, floor mat, and seat are in excellent conditional rips or tears on this one. And I almost forgot this one has the panoramic sunroof, second row glass fixed, and then the power sunroof in front. Up here are your map lights, assistant SOS buttons, sunroof and sun shade controls. And then home light buttons for your garage door security systems and lighting systems. All right, let's start it up. Take a look under the hood. Check out all those LED lights in the front. Starts right up. No check engine lights or anything like that. I would personally like to thank you for checking out the video today. And hopefully from this HD video you've been able to verify the quality condition options. And of course, cleanliness of this Grand Cherokee inside and out. There are those LED lights. They are very bright. Look really good. And under the hood we have the 3.6-liter HentaStar V6 engine base. Very clean runs, very smooth. Once again, this Jeep has been fully safe and inspected by our service shop as a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off. There is the emissions control. Reclamation. And this Jeep's 100%. Ready to go. 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