I mean, I really think of open education as being in a territory. What you're opening up, you may open up to underrepresented people, but you may also open it up to people who are just looking for another territory to claim. So I think real care and humility. I think those two qualities are the most essential ways to safeguard against exploitative practice. And being attentive when you're called out, when you've made mistakes, everybody makes mistakes. It's how you deal with the mistakes that makes a difference. I think you also have to question your own preconceived notions about what knowledge is and should be. And if you're getting a lot of pushback from Indigenous people about what you're putting out there or other underrepresented communities, think very, very carefully about why that is and listen. My name is Daniel Justice. I'm a citizen of the Cherokee Nation and born and raised in Colorado in the US. And I currently work on traditional ancestral and unceded Muslim territory at the University of British Columbia. Knowledge, as I understand it, is never just about individuals. It is about communities. It's about genealogies. It's about histories. Community creates knowledge just as individuals create knowledge that then expand or sometimes contract the knowledge capacity of the community. So I think community has to be at the heart of our understanding of knowledge production and knowledge dissemination. When we're talking about communities, multiple communities in dialogue, then we have to think very much about relationships of power and how power also impacts knowledge production, knowledge maintenance, but also knowledge dissemination, who decides what knowledge should be shared, to what end and why. And all of those kinds of questions are not just about community, but also about that tension between community and individual. I don't think that all knowledge is meant for all people. I think a lot of it is, and I think accessibility to a lot of knowledge is really important. But there is a really extractive mentality at the heart of the idea that all things should be available to all people. Because what that usually means is that the ideas and resources of marginalized people are available for extraction from the powerful. I think it's a myth as it is that all knowledge is available, because it's not. It never has been. And so I think we have to have more of a conversation about why certain knowledge should be widely available and why certain knowledge maybe shouldn't. And that would put us into conversation with indigenous protocols around knowledge as well. The archive is always problematic when it comes to indigenous peoples. Because so much of what was collected in the archive was racist from its inception. So a lot of the work that we have to do is interrogate the archive. And oftentimes what's not in the archive is at least as important as what's present. But that's not to say that the archive doesn't matter. And I think any time we're looking to understand which sources are legitimate, which ones are problematic, which ones are actually outright dangerous, I think a singular approach is never going to be effective. So we have to constantly question what is the material that we're looking at? Who is the source? What motivated the source? Where does it get its authority? So if people are really interested in decolonizing open education, they got a lot of work to do. It's not just a matter of inclusion. It's actually questioning the very foundations of what knowledge is in the academy, but also in society at large. And thinking very much about how power informs influences and limits the possibility of a much more humane and just approach to learning, to knowledge, and to understanding.


So ready to start, thanks again for sticking around. I do want to mention this is Mi'gmaar and the Tibetan Youth Dance Troop, Dance and Music Troop, from Burlington today. And I want to mention a few more of our sponsors before they start. We have been thanking our platinum sponsors, the Hunger Mountain Co-op, NBC5, VSecU, Onion River Outdoors, Union Mutual, Capital Community Church, Consolidated Communications. And we have a number of other sponsors. Please take a look here on the banner. And we want to thank them all. This has been a wonderful event. We hope you'll stick around for a costume parade up to the downtown, up to the downtown after this show at 4 o'clock. So then we'll commence our trick-or-treating downtown. So thanks again. And this is Mi'gmaar. Hello, Tashi Dalek. Tashi Dalek. Let's do it one more. Say Tashi Dalek back to me. Tashi Dalek. Thank you, thank you. So Tashi Dalek, a group of Tibetan vamanters from Burlington. For the Tibetans, keeping our identity and sharing it with the world is crucial because of the situation inside and outside Tibet. We are all members of Tibetan Association of Vamanth, a very closely knit community with about 160 people. Tibetans are the true refugees. But due to some political reason, we do not get the refugee status and all the benefits along with that. We all started from scratch. And as of now, we are doing pretty well. We teach our kids Tibetan language. We teach them Tibetan songs, dances, and music. The only wish we have is to have a community center for ourselves so that we can have a place where we can feel we belong. Today on this beautiful rainy day, we are here to share with you some Tibetan music, some songs, and some dances. So to start with, I am going to play a flute melody. So that is called lu. In the wilderness of Tibet's nomadic area, you might often hear someone singing a song in a very high pitch. The song plays a very important role in their daily life to be happy in the wilderness and letting others know someone is there. It is often used for communicating with someone in distance. The nomadic songs are very funny and very delightful to hear. It is also like a lullaby to the animals they graze. The lu that I'm going to present now, it conveys this message. On those beautiful summer green meadow are the joyous and colorful herds of yak, sheep, goat, and horses, singing deep in the melody of lu, the nomadic song, reflecting the pure and happy life of a Tibetan nomad. So ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I am going to present you the melody on the flute. And I welcome all of you to enjoy Tibet, which is the land of snow, the zone of peace, the third pole, the Shangri-La on the globe, and my country, Tibet. So now it's the exciting moment of the day. As you can see, the bright future seeds of Tibet, all of them, and I have started this class not long ago, but they have been really, really good in learning Tibetan music, Tibetan songs. And very soon, they will be learning Tibetan dance also. So today, I cannot wait to present to you their first performance, playing Tibetan drunken. And the song that we are going to sing or play is called Tsung Dalai Mosul. It says, don't say there is no gem in Lhasa Noblinga. Lhasa is the capital city of Tibet, and Noblinga is the summer palace of His Holiness, the Dalai Lama. Don't say there is no gem in Lhasa Noblinga. Who else is Yixin Norbum, which is the Dalai Lama? Do you think he is? Don't say there is no gem in a Tibetan young man. What else are his tales, scholastics, and the computing skills? Don't say there is no gem in a beautiful Tibetan lady. What else are her turquoise corals and ambas that she wear, bringing glamour? So the song actually teach us how to bring positive attitude, how to see what is good in others. So ladies and gentlemen, this is Tsung Dalai Mosul from none other than my favorite destiny. While celebrating those wings, I saw Dharam Sala, a little Hasa in India. When I looked at him, he looked at me. When I saw the turquoise Gandhampodam, the foundation of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, tears rolled down my eyes without control. So ladies and gentlemen, a song called When I First Left Home. Home and saying that Tibetan people dance when they start walking and sing when they start talking. In Tibet, dancing and singing occasions such as harvest celebrations, weddings, religious and local festivals. Tibetan dancing always accompanies festivals and celebrations. These festivals were held in beautiful locations in the summer and fall. They may last for a few days and can include setting up tents, cooking extravagant meals, making butter and milk tea, offering rituals to local deities and even horse racing. These gatherings are always great opportunities for dancing, singing and playing. People dress up with their traditional clothing. They make a big circle around campfire and dance as they sing. Wedding celebrations have lots of dancing and singing. People send their best wishes and blessings through their traditional dance and folk songs. Overall, dancing is a very important part of Tibetan culture. It is through dance and song that people express their happiness and gratitude for the good things in life. Next, we are going to entertain you come region of Tibet called Trinjan Arilu. Presenting the dance, we have Mr. Dorje, Mr. Nambal, Mrs. Yanki, Mrs. Tenzin Veshe and myself. Please enjoy the come dance called Trinjan Arilu. Change their costume for the next dance. Ladies and gentlemen, the song says something like this. On the Golden Bridge was the most beautiful princess, Yintol Hamo. Then came the fearless prince, Norsan from the north, and took Yintol with him. Over the endless meadows, as Yintol and Norsan traveled, sharing true love with each other, a permanent relationship was born. To omit all the obstacles of life, Yintol and Norsan visited Samling Gomba, the most sacred monastery, and offered their most sincere prayers. So like a fairy tale, they lived happily ever after and with the hope that everyone will find their own true love. I am here to present a song that I have written and composed called Yintol Hamo. Chick Hill, meaning the short summer. So just like we have short summer in Vermont, we have short summer in Tibet also. Next, we are going to perform a dance from Yuzan region of Tibet known as Tibet's autonomous region. Such dances are known as Tushye and are performed during all occasions. The dance brings out the elegance of playing drayyans, singing and dancing, difficult and fast steps, all one at a time. The song that we are going to, the dance that we are going to present now, it conveys the message like, during the short summer festival, the bamboo fence was giving protection from outside as sitting inside is the gem, none other than His Holiness Dalai Lama. How prosperous we are, how prosperous we are. So presenting Yurgit Hamo a folk dance from Yuzan region of Tibet.


or a run this evening while the weather's good you can listen to that as well the guests are Brandon of course Mark, well he's not a guest he's a presenter Mark McHugh, Aaron Kearn and also Alan Foley who's to say what else might turn up listen Brandon well done thanks very much as always alright take care of yourself as a presenter of the DL Debate there was a bit of argy-bargy at the end of the DLG game yesterday it was nothing too serious but probably not a great example for we Johnny and Mary who'd have been at the game or watching on TV I'd say a fair few players and both managers could be a bit nervous now about any action if any that might be taken by the Paris our mom might be more nervous as they already had a brawl with Turon back in February anything to that Brandon before I let you go yeah certainly I was at that game actually a game once it kicked off it was Turon got the four sent off and was a big hamper to them in the next match they were missing those guys so yeah there is a bit of form there it's an Ulster thing there's needle there Greg and it comes back to not taking a step back but if you're on the Don and Gold panel now you want to play the best on my team though you don't want to see players suspended for that game do you? or do you? is it about getting... is it about... If the like of Big O'Neill who came on just about he is some player I mean he hits the ball over from 40 or 45 yards most players would do it from about 20 he's just got something about him so I wouldn't mind now if he had to miss the game obviously listen good stuff alright we'll be back with more after the break Extra Special Medium Cabery Cream Eggs, Buttons, Kit Kat and Smarties Eggs just 165 each that's 3 for under 5 euro Large Cabery Twirl, Whisper and Maltesers Eggs just 3.99 each and treat the kids with Easter Egg on favorites from just 79 cent Visit Aldi or click and collect so on your marks Egg Set Go! Plus 5 grand spending money! Are you worried about trees on your property? 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millenniumforum.co.uk OK you're very welcome back to the 9 till noon show now our Monday focus is on a new legal information clinic we'll bring you new information about a legal information clinic we are joined in studio now by two guests first of all Mary Maguire manager of the centre good morning to you thank you for joining us good morning Greg thank you for having me up this morning it's good to have you with us sorry and Dr Brona Hevron law lecturer at LYIT good morning to you doctor thank you for joining us again delighted to be here Greg thanks OK right tell us about this new legal it is a new public legal information clinic it's opening at the Donegal Women's Centre do you want to set it up for us first Mary yeah sure last year I think there was a funding call for a community funding call coming from the department of children equality disability integration and youth and it was focusing on the LGBT community and I think throughout our work with the LGBT community we saw there was a gap in information in access to legal information and just there had been a lot of changes and how we were going to address the gaps in information sharing information giving we collaborated with the law department in the LYIT and submitted our funding and we were absolutely delighted to receive over 62,000 we were one of the fourth highest in the country so it's a massive project we're delighted it's coming to Donegal and it's being showcased I suppose the work that you know that we can do the street legal clinic can provide to anybody who identifies with the LGBT community yeah Brona can you tell us what gaps might be there what areas say for instance that members of the LGBT I plus community you know what information gaps that they can fill with engaging with this initiative I suppose the first thing is to be clear that even that question is not clear in the sense that what we want to do is get them to tell us where the gaps in knowledge are legal rights can be really complex both through ignorance of them and then accessibility to them so it's really opening the door a lot of their rights and information are the same as other groups but they don't appreciate that so it's really trying to I suppose the objective of this is to customize the information that's shared that it's very much directed towards their interests and needs that they identify so there's something Mary that people might feel well that's not relevant to me or that's not about me so even if it is it's a case of however maybe have an insight however one might come to have that feeling it's about saying well no actually the law's there for all of us and that's exactly it Greg the law is there for everyone and LGBT rights are human rights also and to get the conversation going it's to empower the LGBT community to have their voice to gain the knowledge to realize that maybe some of this information is for them it might be on issues they haven't thought about it might be on things that they haven't come up about yet and that's the beauty of having a group is that they will inform each other and we will be informed as well so it's really a collaborative approach and it's not a one size fits all and that's the beauty of how we've set it up so that it is for everyone and everyone is individual and has their own experience is this also going to have the effect of you know because it can be a very difficult time in the rural part of this country at the best of times but especially if you're going through your old journey who you are you feel different well part of this too maybe eliminate if there is a sense of them and us in that like that it's all us the first phase of our program is legal literacy so it's going to be about the law generally and their access to it then we hope to look at things that are particularly they feel are very pertinent to them and we'll allow them to drive that conversation so there will be bespoke sessions then on those areas but I suppose the key part of this Greg is the methodology we're going to use which is called street law it's not about us going in and telling them this is the law it's about an interactive methodology where we work with them to effectively organically surface those issues that are most relevant to them in their day-to-day and we'll address those then we will customize the remaining workshops to address those it's about empowering them but giving them that voice and its information a bit of ownership too of it because it's yeah absolutely yeah I mean it's actually quite an interesting project beyond the legal advice isn't it because it gives people a voice and a platform and to create something that is tatered and relevant I mean it would be great for everybody absolutely and you used where their advice it's not even going to be that specific it's very much information and as Mary said we're hoping to create a community so that then they can use each other effectively their own knowledge will be broadened and they'll know how to access the law and how to use those bits that are most relevant to them you know they can do the fine tuning in terms of turning it into advice ours is to give them to open the doors you know show them that the laws it is is there for them and there will be gaps in the law and then that'll give them those hopefully the skills the citizenship to advocate more for what they recognize as their needs okay so the legal information clinic tell us Mary who it's not like how people engage with it how it's how it's being established and all that was often in its different stages yeah well I suppose that today is the start of the recruitment process so first of all we need the participants so I think we're appealing to anybody who is themselves identifies themselves as members of the community or they have a family member or a friend and they see that this is actually a good step for them that they can contact the project coordinator and I'll give out the details shortly and then it'll be getting the group together and you know like Ronas says then you know it'll be the roll out then of the of the clinics and there'll be a mixture of face to face they'll be interactive they'll be online and it'll be driven by the group and whatever they want so a lot of work has gone in and there will also alongside that we will have a counselor available from Donegal Women's Center to meet with each of the participants just to offer that extra support because we are aware that there are other issues that could come up you know there can be triggers within a group issues can come up and can be very personal and they you know be still suffering from it and so we will be providing a counselor to offer that support alongside with us I think they know they're engaging with an understanding process here this is about not adding to anyone's situations too now I know it's for those 17 plus but I'm just thinking maybe someone might be a parent or a guardian of a 14, 15, 16 year old that might go well there's a few things that we wouldn't mind getting some clarity on in terms of the legal elements of things is this you know it is prescriptive in that it is for 17 plus isn't yeah at the moment I think is to keep the safety and the confidentiality of the the group that we made a conscious decision just for now you know this is the first of its kind that we're aware of that we would make it specifically to those who identify with the community and there's nothing to stop us from you know developing this even further down the line suppose we're aware that you know it's going to go as quite a rural community and chances are there are a lot of older members of the community who will never have had this opportunity to look at law to come together as a group and we are looking possibly to develop a group of older members of the community so that they have you know peer support it is interesting because I have spoken to that community a few times some on air and off air and they do kind of feel left behind yeah that's you know everything is about a next generation yet there's gaps there and that's really one of the really driving forces of the project when we were putting it together was to tap into the older members of the community who may have all of their lives remained you know the sexuality their orientation has remained completely confidential to themselves and we want to give them the opportunity to link in with others and to empower them just that they have a voice in their own community as well and that was one of the reasons because the issues pertaining to that age group will be very different to the issues you know for the younger group so we thought it was just important for now to keep them separate yeah more generally speaking Bruno maybe it's not more generally speaking though you know is the law equal to all of us though you know what I mean and I know that's a wider question and we don't really have time to get into it now but you know I mean obviously from time to time in different areas we would speak to people the law doesn't seem equal to them well the bottom line is equality is the law is the starting proposition and you're quite right though quite often it isn't equal and I'd say access is probably one of the biggest barriers and this is one of the primary purposes of this is to take down one of those barriers and at least by giving information about the law then they'll number one become more aware of it but they will become advocates for those gaps if there are gaps in the law and part of my ignorance when you talk about access like why would access be different a member of the LGTBI plus community and a person who is not a member of that community who doesn't identify it as where is the access difficulty there just if you take it very simply should like family law as a general term some of them may not recognise or appreciate that they come within the legal definition of a family you know so it's just as I say it could be very simple and to be fair in terms of who it's available to I mean Mary's right this is our first iteration so we're addressing where the gap is where the area parent gap is right now we would hope in two ways to make this sustainable we'll have graduates if you want to call it of this programme who will share it with others and that will generate more information through peer mentoring we also hope to develop some asynchronous digital resources which would be made available to the likes of parents of potential members of this community as well and I suppose Greg as well just to make it really really clear there's no entry requirements like the prerequisite for this is only a desire to know whether the area they're eligible you know because that's sadly one of the barriers as well is that people think well that isn't quite for me I know you don't want people to say well that is it for me it's not for me there are ideas that you will engage and then we'll see if you're asking that question it probably is for you if you're not sure whether it's for you then it might well be for you the very least engage and see if it is absolutely exactly it sounds to me quite exciting obviously it's addressing a serious issue too but it's kind of like you don't know where this I mean if you grant if you plant an acorn you have a strong assumption an oak might grow I think isn't it you don't know what necessarily this might fully truly grow into or how it might which is exciting isn't it? Yeah it is it's exciting and thrilling and terrifying all at the one time and that's the beauty of it you know this is about starting the conversation it is about giving people who may not have a voice or an equal voice giving them you know the voice going forward and seeing where it brings us seeing where it goes I'm really excited it's coming to Donega God and to the Northwest and we've been given the opportunity to do this kind of work and then to see where it goes from there you know we're not going to direct it we don't really have these interviews very difficult because I fully get it but when you're calling for consultation or engagement the last thing you want to do is say something that might deter someone from getting involved so I do a few of these interviews over the year and I get it but it's just to try and get the point across but to encourage people would not discourage anyone come along and see if it's for you and if it's not for you that's okay it might be for somebody else that you know but it's a great opportunity you know so and it won't be offered anywhere else in the country at the moment so come along right so come along where though and when because this information wasn't furnished yeah that's okay yeah we're still finding most of the details I think well sorry in terms of initially all you want people to do is register their interest because you want to create a safe and confidential space they register their interest simply by confirming that they're 18 plus that they 17 sorry 17 plus as in you have to be 18 so I get it so from 18 up exactly and if it's going to go up on social media from Wednesday on the Donegal Women's Centre all of their various pages but we also have an email address and a phone number if you want me to call those out we have a project coordinator Rona and she's contactable on<PHONE_NUMBER> or you can email at lgbtprojectatdonegalwomencenter.ie and all of those details will be confirmed and effectively Greg what we will do then is is circulate the information about the program to those people so register and go you know this is something like I'd be interested to find out more register your interest then in a time in the future when things are the ducks are more in a row at that point you know what I mean then it'll drop into the ring box yeah we will start in the beginning of April so it's ready to go in the beginning of April and as I say it'll be very much you come with the desire to learn more about your own position and what you know entitlements you might have anything you want to add Mary? no just we would really encourage people we have set up so many safety protection pieces around it it's going to be fun it's going to be interactive positive experience we will learn as much as what the participants will learn from this we are open to that we've kept it as non-directive as we possibly can because it's so new where this is going to lead to but we hope big things and we just really can't wait to get going a lot of preparation has gone into it we're just really excited to get going so we would just encourage everybody that might be interested look we're all going to be nervous come along that that's okay we recognize you're going to be a part of something absolutely and that's probably the most exciting is going to be part of something new a shift in the county a shift within the communities involved and hopefully that will trigger a template for the rest of the country absolutely with information comes understanding even if you're not sure as you say go out there and get the information make your decisions then information is really important legal information can be scarier than it actually is so use the opportunity to find yourself googling it you find yourself googling and you google and you'll get four answers then you have to find out which one is relevant to you between Australia and the United States nothing wrong with Australians except the laws apply to if you're in Australia I get to you I don't think even the most sensitive Australians would be bothered by that statement so don't worry about that Dr Brona Hevrin it's all going it's all going and Mary McGuire manager at Donegal Women's Centre very funny I don't want to do anything negative at all of course but you know it's a broad community right it's kind of interesting it's the Donegal Women's Centre that is platforming this does that make sense do you consider that well I think we've been working with the LGBT community for so long I'm not suggesting otherwise by the way we're in a position of trust I think we're well established within the community and we have we work very much from an interagency and intercommunity model of practice and yeah it's the next logical step and we've been an ally for so many years that it was time to do something positive alright I'm interested to see how this pans out I think everyone is we're looking forward to ourselves it's been we will retain that info there and the number and the email address as well so people can ring us they know our numbers off the top of the head I think and we'll be able to pass that on but for now thank you very much Dr Brona Hevron law lecturer at LYAT Mary McGuire manager at Donegal Women's Centre thanks for joining us to talk about a new public legal information clinic which is opening at the Donegal Women's Centre contact us if you want that information which is also available as well of course from the Donegal Women's Centre directly 4th Road Letter Kenny explore our wide range of virtual tools at kellystoyota.com at Centra we're at the heart of the community so we go to great lengths to help you live your best life fresh bread finest meals fantastic offers all the good feels not to mention a fabulous wide range of our own brand favorites and as for our license we've been to the full corners of the world so you can enjoy the best wines and beers locally at Centra we've got everything you need 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of the program hopefully you're able to enjoy the way hopefully you had a fantastic weekend by the way and if you're a mother hopefully you were spoiled absolutely rotten right ok Michael Letty writer and blocker I simply could not wait until Friday to talk to you about the Oscars how are you keeping you Greg yes it's good to see you a few days earlier in the week it's always good to see you so yeah the Oscars that's the pleasantries out the way let's focus on the winners before maybe we'll talk about the distractions it was a big event for streaming the industry can't pretend streaming does not create and platform films that can be Oscar winners anymore it's all well and dusted now absolutely yeah it legitimizes I think if that's the word and if that was needed it legitimizes the streaming option for film makers and it kind of you know definitely it's another award for the big award that puts that clearly on the board clearly on the map yeah if you're streaming film such as Coda you're legitimately an Oscar contender and I was delighted to see Coda win I loved it I thought it was the best of the films I had seen I had seen most of the Oscar contenders I thought Power of the Dog would get it because it seemed more Oscar friendly but no the voters went for Coda and deservedly so and it's an Apple movie which is the point of the whole thing and it also got a Best Supporting Actor award again the fact that it isn't a traditional cinema film doesn't matter in the slightest yeah I'm trying to find the Oscar winners but unfortunately I can't well I will do I can but I can't because it's all about Will Smith it's all about Will Smith so basically do you want to chat about that now yeah go on and then we'll go back to that we'll go back then of course yeah so basically Chris Rock was giving out was introducing the best documentary documentary even Oscar there's never enough hours in documentary I think I'm trying to bring more in thanks for getting me behind me on that so he was he gave out a couple of jokes as he does and in fairness they were pretty lame Javier Verte was one target and then of course he goes to Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith she is very publicly dealing with alapacea at the moment her loss condition and she's been quite public about that and he made a reference to the film G.I. Jane that's Demi Moore was in that was it it was a big controversy at the time because Demi Moore shaved her head so obviously the tabloids were all over that of course so at the moment through no fault of her own Jada Pinkett Smith is sporting a very similar look Chris Rock made a joke and it got a pretty negative response in the room because it's not a great joke and kind of you're punching down ironically punching but you're punching down when somebody is dealing with some sort of illness it's not usually good fodder for comedy but in any case he made the joke and was a bit of a grown Will Smith's initially seemed to chuckle Jada Pinkett Smith she definitely rolled her eyes and see that on camera she was not impressed Chris Rock was continuing and at that point Will Smith marched on the stage with great purpose and delivered a resounding slap across the face of Chris Rock unbelievable like to watch it in replay I've seen it a couple times on social media and then he left the stage there was a continuation of the altercation get my wife's name out of your mouth yes using some language that's quite colourful Will Smith Medicare he didn't want that kind of talk now you see okay well this is when we get to unpack it but yeah Chris Rock then continued he was stunned for a couple of seconds but very professionally he kept going which he got to admire and he moved on as best as you could imagine See I'm torn all over the place by this because as I said earlier I think commenting on people's appearance is I think it's punching down as you mentioned punching down big time I think for whatever reason for medical reasons or for fashion choice people with short hair now girls maybe will get the G.I. Jane schoolyard insult but we're telling them we're saying don't call people's name and you've got this happening if this is what it takes to stop that kind of crappy roasting or whatever you might call it but in no way can condone what Will Smith did so it's a moral dilemma I don't know what way to come down on it yeah there's a lot to unpack because there are so many hot takes this morning on social media and there's a couple of articles out there already lengthy articles on Scythe Like The Guardian and it is difficult because first of all you're absolutely correct it's a terrible joke and it's not a target that's appropriate it never is so comedians picking on somebody for these reasons it's nothing to stand up or be proud about but Will Smith's response is it a response wherein he's defending his wife or is it a response where he's just defending his own bruised ego because you go unpack different because they have been there are a lot of jokes as well but we talked earlier on I think you might have mentioned it on Friday or some Friday they'll blur into one you mentioned about how the fact that you know this is not about whether Spider-Man was the best film of the year, whether Batman was the best film of the year or Audience Favorites do you know what I mean it's a load of people with the nose and the air sort of going ho fine right but it does platform films that might not ordinarily get a big audience that they might go right you got mentioned at the Oscars or you got selected on your one and it drives a bit of traffic to them he's done them a terrible service because it's a short window it's one evening and maybe the next day of coverage of these films but he swallowed up all of that coverage so in doing what he did yes he made a stand but an awful lot of independent companies smaller actors they're going to miss out on their time in the spotlight the short time in the spotlight the documentary the actual winner of the actual documentary then you know that gets completely swallowed up like this happened within a couple of minutes of the slap and again it's doing a disservice it's unprofessional and his speech which I've watched in its entirety is rambling it's sort of a justification of his actions and it's very much a self important very grandiose speech in talking about the pressure that he's under and what he's being called upon by God so he's a victim then well yes exactly and that would certainly that doesn't help either I'm reminded by Twitter of Ricky Gervais a couple of years ago and he has a lovely piece when he was doing the Oscars about and it's again a paraphrase because of whatever content language but it's just you're an actor get up say thanks thank you get off the stage nobody is expecting anything more of you well some people might use that opportunity to to support an issue or something and I get that but I understand where everyone's coming from on this a chorus says and I've heard it a few times this was a setup between Smith and Rock this is Hollywood now I know people always trying to think there's no gain for Will Smith in this there is no gain for Chris Rock in this and there's no there might be a gain for the Oscars maybe because they may be they're more relevant to people aren't talking about things like diversity or whatever it might be or other important issues maybe but there is nothing for anyone positive in this either I don't think I don't think so either I think there's it's a PR nightmare I think for Will Smith at the moment I don't think it's going to do long-term damage but nonetheless to his career but nonetheless it is a bit of a PR nightmare I can't see the benefit you're absolutely right you're coming on it analytically I completely agree I can't see why they would concoct this or think for a moment you'll be a positive thing it's not and it's not a good image for a leading black actor in modern America to resort to violence to resolve things if this was concocted then there's some there's a lot of people really should be rethinking their positions if they're telling Will Smith to do this because it is it's it's not a good look a few people pointing out that Smith originally laughed and then at this violent burst but listen we can't speak to the space he was in it could be a laugh of embarrassment maybe he didn't hear I don't know yeah I agree with you I wouldn't read too much into that either personally I appreciate the text very much by the way yeah no I agree with that as well I saw that you can't know in the moment second you know there's that moment where you like you've been there Greg I've been there something was hot and you're like one two three like what wait what what did I just hear so being polite you can smile rock wasn't being particularly funny his previous couple of gags were not great I cringe and I watch some of Saturday Night Live you know and the American humor you know that is a sweeping statement don't get me wrong and I think people know I don't mean or it's just it's just a lot of it's tone deaf and not funny well done to Smith he didn't hit him hard enough that's one point of view and you know what in terms of as I say Marley I can't look would never condone that type of stuff either off there or on air by the way I'm not trying to be cute here but I can't tolerate that type of bullying picking on people for their appearance another call says it's sand staged by Chris Rock and Will Smith to get publicity for their waning asses they're both action men this is staged for sure again I get it and listen you could be a hundred percent right because you can hear by some of the jokes that they these actors try and come up with to give an award and it's cringe it's like you think oh my god that's bad so maybe they contrived it and didn't like why did he slap him with it why do you slap him with an hand for yes you know I mean so like I'm not dishing that but if they did that theory but if they did do this my word they need as you say wasn't it they need new advisors bad judgment yeah it just seems like it's not having the intended effect I mean let's you go back to Oscar Wilde's famous quote about you know publicity is publicity is also in the back of the city if they're talking about just so I don't know but I mean winning the Oscar for best actor none you know you know pretty much not that I'm sure it's a lot as well as a great performance best picture Coda you think that deserved to be in ahead of Belfast I know you didn't like Belfast but yeah I see Belfast did pick up for screenplay yeah well I'm going to hand them in order oh sorry yeah I'll never keep track otherwise very happy very happy West Side Story Ariana Debosi actress in a sport and role international film feature drive my car documentary The Queen of Basketball documentary feature Summer of Soul animated film feature Encanto adapted screenplay Coda again original screenplay Belfast which you reference don't look I was in there too I didn't see Belfast I would like to have seen because you know there was a bit on the Late Late Show recently where I think it was Mary Robinson was talking about the crisis that we are in at the moment and Ryan told me to brush it over you know okay that's okay okay but now we're going on to this and it was literally right you could have inserted that into don't look up it's exactly what that film was talking about she was talking about apocalyptic scenario for our children and it was yes well we get that on to our next item let's you can win this do you know what I mean absolutely Will Smith as you mentioned King Richard he's a winner there actors it was a good performance it's overshadowed now but that's a good film and a good performance I look forward to seeing that Jessica Chastain eyes of Tammy Faye actress Nalini Rowe director a power of the dog Jane Campion producer of design Dune I think Vanoula like Dune they also want cinematography then we get into costume design Cruella and and it goes live action short film so was there there was a I thought there was an audience vote no was there not some sort of an audience favorite or something that was supposed to be introduced this year my attention you could be a hundred percent right it's not on my list here I didn't notice it this morning so another caller says any publicity is good publicity and although you can tell the way rock moved when the timing was there okay well listen you know maybe there's a bigger picture here I don't know as I say I'm not dismissing it as a theory it just seems so logical but you know we are dealing with Hollywood celebrities yeah I'm not convinced no I just it seems yeah I just I haven't watched it now I just it seems too real and just too stupid Jack Jackson's boob falling out during the Superbowl yes that is a publicity sound you know yeah yeah all right listen see you Friday thanks very much for joining us today and we'll chew through it a bit more lovely stuff 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