So Missouri, as some of you may have seen recently, is ground zero for a lot of polarization, divisive partisan games, and frankly, unrepresentative election outcomes and a government that is not working for the people. We also have a very accessible ballot initiative process. That's a good thing. And historically, voters and the media here have a history of being very supportive of cleaning up our broken and corrupt political system to create a brighter future for our state. So whether it's healthcare, poverty, the rural, urban divide and broadband access, there's so many issues where the government is not working for the people and these divisive partisan games are getting in the way of addressing the needs of the people of Missouri. Just to give one example, our disgraced former Governor Eric Brighton's not our current governor, but our last one, he actually won the 2016 Republican governor's primary by securing 34.5% of the vote. Again, our last governor became governor because he won the Republican primary with 34.5% of the vote statewide. That was over businessman John Brunner with 25%, Peter Kinder with 21% and Catherine Hannaway with 20%. And again, he went on to win narrowly in the general election, but then resigned in disgrace after a court ordered that his dark money donors had to be revealed. So he resigned rather than have to reveal his dark money donors. These are the kind of games, this is the kind of corruption that we're facing in Missouri. And imagine what would happen, right now we have our US Senator Roy Blunt saying that he is not going to run again and there is a huge free-for-all in the Republican primary again to decide who's gonna represent us in the US Senate. Imagine what it would be like in the US Senate if Missouri and other states, but starting here in Missouri elected our senators with the way that we're doing it now in St. Louis. Nonpartisan approval voting primary with a top two right off. Imagine the kind of broad support and accountability and consensus building we would see not only here in our state, but in the US Senate if we were to take these reforms statewide. So I'm really excited about the positive change that approval voting could mean for Missouri, for our state residents and our representation in our state and for the country as a whole if we're able to apply these to all statewide elections including the US Senate.


having a in-depth look at some of the issues that have happened this year, particularly around bushfires at the start of the year and also around the COVID sort of crisis and how that's impact on engagement and managing projects in that environment. So without further ado, I'll hand over to Ann and get started on a topic I think most people will have quite a bit of interest in. And thanks Jeff for the introduction. Yeah, I think crisis project is something that we've all probably learned a little bit about this year. For those that don't know me, I'm Ian Laslet. I'm a director in EY's digital and immersion technology and I was formerly managing director of Adelphi Digital and we did a lot of work in the Drupal space also in the kind of web projects space and with the huge range of organisations. And today I guess I want to focus a little bit on some interesting case studies and anecdotes and some advice I think around what to do and how to manage projects from the crisis. As a starting point, at any given time we support a huge range of clients and this is just a quick one that we can develop with this year. During the bushfire crisis last year we were supporting both ACT and the emergency services. We're currently supporting emergency management Victoria. During coronavirus we were supporting smart traveller and we built and managed that site. We also look after a whole range of Department of Home Affairs sites, ACT Health, we've been working with them on their coronaviruses sites and the general public information from ACT Health over this period. And also things like TransLink, Transport in Brisbane and things like that. There's a huge depth of knowledge and experience that we've got from these kinds of clients and I thought I'd share some of that with you today. For those that live in Edinburgh, these red and yellow emergency warnings might impact some horrible memories. Earlier in the year and during the fire crisis last year I wanted to talk through a couple of examples of what happened and how to manage during the crisis. The first red emergency warning you see there is for a fire that occurred on the 22nd January last this year, sorry, over at Beard and Oaks Estate which is just over near the airport here in Canberra. What was really interesting about this one was the fire itself obviously was very quick and happened really fast but it was also a day where AWS was having a huge amount of issues with their instances caused a lot of outages around the country for some very big and notable organisations. So there were some dramas around how you manage your infrastructure, how you manage your hosting and support while an emergency situation is going on and some lessons learned in that one. And the second I guess one I wanted to talk about a little bit was around the Aroral Valley fire which was one of the really, really big fires that occurred in the week after that actually and burned for many, many weeks later. And I think talking about those two fires and the context around how you manage during that period is the background for the talk today. I think there's a few things I wanted to talk through. Preparation is obviously key. It's really important to understand how to prepare what you're doing, what to do during a crisis, how to manage your technical users, stakeholder engagement, everything that's going on during the crisis. What happens when your crisis continues? I mean this year we've had a crisis of the last year, the coronavirus crisis has effectively gone on for the whole year. What does that mean for your teams? What does that mean for your users? And I guess I'll sum up with some lessons learned arising out of that as well. So let's just focus on theme one for a second which is around preparation and I've got a few points on each particular area to focus on. I think I always start and I think it is very important to start with knowing your users. For all these emergency sites and for any actual site or anything that you manage, I think you need to know your load and traffic profile.  Then triple it. I mean some of these sites that normally get a few hundred users a day were in the tens or hundreds of thousands of users a day and I think the smart travel site at one point was on the day that the travel restrictions were announced for the Australians weren't recommended to go overseas. It was something like two million people visited the site or something on that particular day from all around the world far beyond the expectations of what originally the site had been scaled and designed for. Yet we were able to deal with those situations and kind of grow and scale to what we think. One really interesting story and I think that's important to note is like we do load testing and performance testing on all sites that we build but something that isn't always immediately apparent is the user journeys that people will take during a crisis. So if you're for instance running one of those biocides, people don't want to go to the homepage. They'll just go and hit the biopage and refresh it constantly. You might be expecting that you'll get and we actually expected that the whole population in Canberra would hit the emergency services site over that period. What we didn't expect was that every single man installed would go on and refresh that page every 10 seconds just to see if there was an update. So when you're doing your load and performance and really understanding that, you need to understand what's really going to happen in terms of the crisis and really plan for that and it's far beyond what you expect. The other thing to think about is what is your support model in advance? Are you going to fully staff during a crisis? Are you going to have people there in the middle of the night sitting making sure everything's up or not? Are you going to have people on call? I guess in the technical space, it's much easier to run a kind of on-call support center but that may not be sufficient during the crisis and that's one thing I think we've worked closely with some of the emergency services around is how do you upscale a team from what during the rest of the year might have a couple of people running some support during the week and then all of a sudden during the crisis you need 20, 30, 40 people potentially available to support this thing to publish content to manage issues to get back to people and all kinds of stuff. So you need to have that planned and ready in advance. The main aim from a user point of view is to reduce risk so you want to get information out that reduces people's risk during the crisis. Get them information that helps them in their area. Internally, I do want to talk a little bit about the process and how you run and manage your people. You need to know how you're going to deal and communicate and publish and everything during the crisis and you need to have tested those processes and procedures. A lot of these things can be alleviated by preparing events but if you're going to be publishing content, you can prepare proform as you can have your content kind of ready to go and all you do is populate it with the information that's current at that time and things like that. One of the big sticking points around all these potential emergency sites is who approves content and how does it actually get out there. There's almost a hesitancy sometimes in some places to publish and release information but users want that information out there as quickly as possible. So you need to have decided in advance how you're going to manage and release that content and get things out there. One really interesting thing is as well if you've designed your architecture in a high availability way, how do you get content out and how do you publish it as quickly as possible? If you've put a lot of caching in front of your site, if you put a CDN in there, if you've got web application firewalls, if you've got caching in your database, if you've got everything through there, it may actually take minutes or longer to get content live. In an emergency situation that may not be appropriate so you need to have thought that all through and really understood how you're going to publish and get content live as quickly as possible. Leading on from that, I guess you need to design your system and architecture support that. In advance testing your disaster recovery, testing your failover, make sure you've done all that. Back to the, I guess the beard fire and the initial stages of an AWS heritage around that. We had multiple availability zones in AWS set up for the site we were running at the time. But when the whole provider starts going down, what do you do at that point? Do you have a disaster recovery period in place for that? How do you set that up? Have you tested it in advance? And this is one thing that I think became immediately apparent that, and you can't rely just on one data center provider for an emergency situation. You really need multiple data centers. And Drupal itself is not particularly great at dealing with that. It's not really set up in a way where you can have different data centers with different masters publishing content or anything like that. It's actually a really hard technical problem to work out on how you do that. So if you've got, say your AWS instance is primary and then you've got some Azure and you've got something else in there as well, how you can direct traffic to those things is easy enough. But how do you then switch it to publishing content and things is actually a real challenge that Drupal hasn't yet solved I guess overall as a way of doing that. The other thing to think about is in terms of your preparation is what to do with your social and video content. There's not just your website, although that was the primary source of truth for most of these things. People are publishing things constantly on Twitter, constantly on Facebook. You're getting a lot of feedback through those channels and things as well. You need to know where those channels are, how you're going to manage the content that comes through them and you need to set up and test and monitor everything around it as well. So that's all the things I think and a lot of the things you can do in preparation for a crisis and then you can go from there. So what actually happens during a crisis? Yeah, it's a real, I think at any point when one of these fires or one of these things happened. This was less than 24 hours later from the initial release of the Aurora Valley fire that significant areas were under emergency warning. There was a huge, almost panic in the Canberra community at the time around this because the fire was effectively about 10 kilometers down the bottom of Togonong and very, very close to homes and things. But what does that actually mean in terms of the technical support and project management point of view during that period? What were we doing to help with the crisis and what could you be doing to help, I guess, if you were running in a similar situation? I think once again, it goes back to the users. Like at that point, what users really want is timely local information. They don't want to be in a situation where they're waiting to find out about them. They also don't want information that's not relevant to them. You see a lot of situations where people are publishing, like in the national news articles might be talking about fires all around the country. That kind of stuff becomes irrelevant to people at that point. What they really want is their real local information about what's going on in their suburb. Are they in danger? Do they need to evacuate? Do they need to move something on in their own area? And I don't think, I know we haven't done a great job at this and I don't think many organizations have yet, is how do you personalize and localize your content in that way? How do you get it out to users at a real suburb by suburb level to tell them what they need to do at that situation? So I think it's something that's a challenge for the project management and digital people around here is thinking about that and pushing that content out to a localized level is something I think we'd really see from the emergency services and other sports services in the next little while. One thing that also happened a lot during the crisis is you got a huge amount of feedback. Like we were getting feedback through all the social channels. You're getting lots and lots of people with strange technology issues. You know, I'm running IE version six and my map won't load. It doesn't mean I have to evacuate things. Like how do you need to be kind of ready to deal with that, jump into it? The other thing that happens a little bit is that there's a pressure to change things. You know, in that situation where there's an issue with your old browser, do you try and pump out a fix for it? And I think the strong advice for myself is no, I mean, you've got a site that might be serving hundreds of thousands of people at that time. What you don't want to be doing is releasing a new code or trying to fix a particular bug that's affecting a tiny proportion of the users. But there is a lot of pressure.  Can we fix it? The answer is, well, we can fix it. But I don't think it should be fixing it at that moment if it's not affecting the base. The huge number of users out there. I think during the crisis, grabbing the team, really owning what's going on. I've got some points here that talk about sharing a shared space. The emergency services and all of them run this way where they gather people together in a physical location and the guys are going to serve as ACT around it. They've been there. You know, actually it was great. We got out there with our support guys, the infrastructure support guys, the publishing team and everyone was placated there during the fire crisis. And it was actually faster to solve issues there in the room than it would have been over teams or setting up a call or whatever else happens. So I know everyone loves virtual communication and we're all here today speaking virtually. But it was super important to be in the same room with each other and jump in there. If you didn't need people to dial in, the other tip I've got there is use a consistent calling mechanism. Everyone wants to use something different. Everyone says, oh, I'll just set it up on my teams or I'll run my Zoom meeting and everything. And then you get dramas. Just set one up at the start of the crisis and say, this is what you're using. I'm going, everyone just use that. And don't forget the emotional strain like during a crisis, some people don't react well. Some people get very worried about their own property or their own families. Obviously it's important to let people, if they can, not have to deal with the crisis situation in the work sense as well. If they need to go and do something with their family, you need to be able to deal with that as well. Develop a second team. Make sure that you've got two people working on things. Develop lots and lots of collaborative ways for those guys to work that aren't impacted by the actual crisis that's going on.  And we're in the process of switching the DNS over to that site through a separate climate center during that period. I think that's a really crucial thing that that team wasn't dealing with the core issues. They were completely removed from that and had their own priorities and things to deal with. I think that's a great way to deal with crisis and issues. If you've got lots of those, then set up lots and lots of different teams and get lots of people out there doing that stuff. Keep scaling your tech. It's really nice these days the way you can scale your infrastructure. At one point, I think during the worst of the fire season, we've gone from a couple of production instances up to 20 or 30 large instances at AWS. And we're able to scale and grow that capacity as required tell the databases and things like that. Just to be forward to the multi-zone and multi-cloud providers is super important. Keep monitoring your technology over that whole period. We had guys sat there on the infrastructure watching what was going on in the databases and things like that. Crisis can last for a long, long time. That fire and the overall value lasted for weeks. This is just a few days later. It was back to advice and a state of advice for quite a long time. But there's still a lot of people interested in what's going on. What becomes even more important then is, I guess, once again, time of local content for users. If it's not impacting them, they're not really interested, but you need to be able to keep serving that content out and maintain connectivity with those users. There's also a lot of questions around cross-border jurisdictional things at that time. The users didn't care about that. They just wanted to know the information that was current for them. Make sure you keep that in mind. If you are in government and dealing with cross-border things, the users did not care who they're talking to. They just want all the information relevant to them. Keep monitoring your team. Make sure that everyone's on board. You have to bring and rotate your team through a crisis. It's very difficult just to have everyone working through days and days of a crisis situation. You want to have lots of people being able to draw in and deal with it. Crisis fatigue becomes a real issue. I think we've seen during coronavirus this year, Victoria running, say, 100 press conferences in a row. I can't imagine the stress that those guys were under during that period to continually do that. It becomes a real issue over an extended crisis of how you keep people focused on the job and things. I think rotation, motivation, incentives and things are great ways to do that. Make sure you're planning and your major announcements and things as much as possible. Keep monitoring your second team. During a crisis over an extended period, you can have lots of good work being done that's not been impacted by the crisis itself. While the emergency services stuff is going on, we actually developed a whole different way of publishing and managing content through this dark site process, where we should focus only purely on a crisis. Instead of having a normal site, you just have a crisis site and be able to do that. We were developing that in parallel while the main crisis was going on. Also, testing and managing everything in parallel. Nearly there, but I think you can automate a lot of this stuff as well. You can automate your performance, obviously, automate your testing. There's a lot of tools out there and some other really interesting talks today about how you might manage that. Long big gotcha. Equipment costs can become huge.  That becomes a massive cost for everyone. Make sure you keep testing your DR processes because things change over time. Last but not least, go back and revisit it all. We had so much feedback during some of these crises and it actually took us a long time to go back and gather all the feedback and work through it. We spent the last few months improving things for this five seasons that things should be much more smooth for this year. That's about it. Thanks, guys. I hope you take any questions. Yeah, thanks for that. Ian, I'm just checking on there. There's no question showing up. If anyone wants to put anyone in there now or to catch up with Ian a bit later throughout the day. I guess I was just going to say that was a good point in terms of that sort of fatigue because I would see a lot of people here in Canberra had visions of 2003 when big fires hit the city again when that happened. Obviously people working on the project his own homes might have been threatened by these as well. I guess that's a real challenge in balancing that need and trying to, I guess, the other thing about co-locating stuff as well and how important that was. That was a pretty important one I saw on that. Yeah, definitely. Co-location was super helpful, I think, and I'd really recommend that as a way to get people together and work through these issues. Even though it's harder in COVID times, I think you can be COVID safe and get that done. All right. Well, that's about all for now. I think we're on to the next session shortly. So thanks very much again, Ian, for that. That was a really interesting and relevant talk, given all that's been going on. So thanks very much. Thanks, guys.


Welcome to NewsClick. I know what you're thinking and you're right, our graphics team has become much better. This backdrop, our studio, doesn't it all look real? Whom are kidding? We're in Bhubaneswar and this is our show. So this is Kalinga Stadium, the venue for the FIH hockey World Cup, where the atmosphere has been simply electrifying the last few days when the matches are being played. Inside, the best hockey talent in the world are playing their hearts out for victory. India is matching them, not just matching them, but beating them in their game and quite spectacularly. But the real atmosphere of this entire hockey festival is being generated outside where the fans just come in in waves and they're just creating an atmosphere which is unheard of for hockey across the world. It only happens in India, guys, and this episode of NewsClick's hockey show is dedicated to the fans who are making this festival a grand success, a grand spectacle. Here to clear the team, I mean, who happens to be actually direct rivals against the home team in India. So Yves, what do you think about the chances of your team? I think this year, we check back and forth all the time, but now I think that we have to make a good reason. We cannot follow the team intervention team all the time.  I mean, we haven't been in Rio. We like very much India, so that's why we decided to come here for this welcome. And you mentioned that you would be missing the ladder out of the tournament, so you won't probably see Belgium lift the trophy? Yeah, unfortunately, but we hope they will lift the trophy, of course, and we will follow them and we will see them on the period. We will follow their recent annual games. So the thing is, I don't know how you started following the sport, but one of the best things about watching sport is coming to the stadium. Of course, and see, what the stadium does, it's actually collecting the entire energy of not just the players out there, but the fans and it just focuses onto this small area and it's amazing the atmosphere that it creates. You can actually feel it on your skin, but imagine the fans who have come to India, they're all excited about it, they're painting their faces, they're getting the flags out, they're walking around shouting slogans, things like that, and they just want India to win today. India is an audience for hockey.  I mean this with the utmost respect for other countries. You don't see this happening in the Netherlands, in Belgium. I guess this is also a translation from that cricket fan thing because it all begins there, be it IPL, be it the national team playing, the face painting, the open show of patriotism, so to speak. But then we are openly emotive about such things, I feel, not exactly Germans maybe because German fans are very strong but they are not exactly the most emotive of fans. Now, while this is one end of the conversation, which is this open display of patriotism, the second thing is the financial implications this has on hockey as a sport. India's audience for the sport, when it comes to filling stadiums and I'm going to just go out on a limb and say even the broadcast audience, it's much bigger than what's going to happen in England, the Netherlands and Belgium, for example. Which makes India the epicenter of the sport when it comes to sustainability, financial. But then if you can get into that, if you are getting into that aspect then you can, finances is fine. It's actually a little bit tricky in this case, especially because we know for sure that many of these fans who are coming have not bought the tickets, it's all free passes that are going out there. So, filling up the stands, though it's a great sign, the game is attracting people and people do want to come but whether it is translating into a financial build-up for hockey or an industry for hockey, I doubt because the economics is slightly different here. Whereas, in the Netherlands for instance, everyone would be buying the tickets and going. You actually brought the, then you brought about a really intriguing fact, which means that the people who are coming into the stadium are only coming in because they have a free pass. Not exactly because yesterday I caught a fan and he, in fact, when the online sale happened he bought two tickets each for the entire duration, he distributed it among his family and kept the India matches for himself. And so, that is, so people are willing to buy it, it's not like it's an expensive ticket, people do buy ticket tickets also. So, that happens, but so what I feel is that maybe the organizers shouldn't encourage this free-pass thing. So, what I heard from the fan yesterday is that there is an official nexus around a sports event in Odisha which actually demands such the distribution of such free-pass. I guess the way to find this out is to go and talk to some fans. There is general excitement and the fans can't wait to go into the stadium. There are disappointed faces also, like for instance, your guest for a year who has not managed to get a ticket is willing to buy it, but tickets are not available. So, he is apparently very sad. What's the reason for coming today? You said that it's your first match day. Actually, India is now improving. The first match, India played against RSA, South Africa was amazing. The second match, the top-most team, Belgium also was amazing. That's why I actually sold the ticket from last three months but due to my time problem, I cannot see before matches. So, I am coming today to enjoy this match, India vs. Canada. Here we have Ranjit Mahapat and Bhavani Shankar from Bhaneegrahi from Bhubaneshwar. So, what is the looking ahead to the match? What do you feel? Obviously, it's an excitement match in India and Canada because this match has already been decided in the quarter-final. So, I am so much excited for today's match. So, did you come here for the first match before this? Yes, sir. When we came here for the first match, India played against South Africa from 5-0. We were very excited. So, hopefully, we will be excited even today that India will win today.


This shoe is worth $6,000 and this shoe is worth $6,000. These were made for the Oregon Ducks and these were made for the Florida Gators. Now, every sneaker head wants to have rare and exclusive shoes in their collections, but sometimes it's just out of our budget. So in today's video, I'm gonna be showing you guys some affordable options and we're gonna be taking some looks at some very rare and exclusive sneakers here at Untied. When the Supreme Dunk originally came out, everybody was loving this shoe, but it was a little bit too expensive for your everyday consumer. Shortly after that, we got the Panda Dunk right here and these were a lot more affordable.  So not only am I gonna be giving you guys alternate options for a very expensive shoe to a cheaper shoe, I'm actually gonna put my wife to the test and see if she can guess the prices. All right, how much do you think the Pandos are worth and how much do you think the Supreme Dunks are worth? So obviously this is more Supreme Club. This is the most generic shoe on the market, so I'm gonna say it's probably pretty affordable and they've released it a couple of times if I remember correctly. So I'm gonna say two, two, 50. That is correct. Is that ready? Yep. On to the next one. Cool, cool, cool. What do you think about the Supreme? The Supreme, I really, I don't think that they, I feel like there's different colors to this. There's like a blue or a red or something or maybe both. It was like a pack of four. Yeah, it was like a, yeah. I'm gonna say 500. Make 50. See, I don't know. This was kind of like an easy guess because you know, I said the factors, but yeah, I didn't know about this. All right, so you get, we'll give you half a point for that one. Okay, all right, I'll take it. On to the next shoe. All right, how much do you think the Lost and Founds are worth and how much do you think the trophy rooms are worth? 500. Five, five, 50, that's pretty close, yeah. Okay. What you know about these shoes? You know what I'm saying? I know you like them. You know, it's like a more affordable version of this. So what about the trophy rooms? This is expensive. I know this is expensive. It looks like money. This is not, I'm gonna say 1800. That is, yes, 1800 is the number. Look at me. Did you look at this sheet? I didn't look. Damn, you're doing good. All right, on to the next one. Okay. All right, we got the Mokas and the Travis Scots. Very similar, but very different. Yes, very similar. I'm not gonna say never, but like if I had to choose like paying for one of these, it would definitely be at these ones because there's really not that big of a difference here. You would choose the Moka? Yeah, because there's really not that big of a difference in color scheme. Like obviously the browns are different, the cream bottom, and like the little hits here and whatever, but it's because it's Travis Scott, you know. Okay. So what's the price on the Moka? It's a Jordan one. They've been very popular over the last couple years. I'm gonna say 800. Well, hi. That's a little high. 600, 600, okay. I don't get a point for that. No, what do you think about the Travis Scott? I'm gonna say closer, definitely in the thousands range. Let's say, I'm gonna go for 18 on this one too. 1800, you are correct. Hey, let's go.  I'm sure you know that that one's more expensive. This is definitely more expensive, off-white. And I'm sure it's probably gone up since Virgil's passing RIP. So what do you think about the university blue? I'm gonna say these are probably not that expensive but for Air Force, it's probably like expensive, but like 400? 400? Yeah. They're actually like 150 bucks. They're like just over retail. Okay. That's way cheaper than I thought it was gonna be. It's like a very affordable shoe right now. Yeah, yeah. Very sneaker. And the blue is like literally like the same. They're very similar. Yeah, almost the same. So what do you think about that compared to the off-white? What do you think the price is on those? The off-white is gonna be in the thousands range. I would say closer to 2,000. Try three. Three. Okay, but that makes sense though because Virgil and everything. So what do you think about the price difference between those two?  Am I paying $3,000 for this shoe? No, because guess what? This shoe is $150. You're not even paying 150 for those. I know, but you know what I mean though? Like I would wear both shoes. I think this shoe is dope. They have a green one of this. This is true. That's the one you want. That's my color. All right, on to the next shoe. We're out of here. So we just put her to the test with four different sneakers, the Pandas, the Chicago's, the Mokas, and the University Blues. And honestly, she did pretty solid. But I wanna test her with the Player Exclusives, the real expensive shoe. These two shoes are very similar. Extremely similar, look at this. But a little bit different. There's, I mean, obviously the detail here is a little different, but I would say outside of that it looks like the same shoe. And like the O, this is the OVO. Organ Ducks. Oh, it's Organ Ducks? Yeah, but I can see why you would think that with the gold. Okay, yeah, yeah. See, I don't know everything. All right, so the Olympic one on your left hand, how much do you think those are for the regular pair? I'm gonna go with five, 500. 300. See, not shooting too high. Affordable, it's affordable, Jordan. You know, it came out a while ago, but it's pretty affordable still. And if you want like a dupe for this, this is like... Basically the same shoe. It's basically the same shoe. So what do you think the price is on the PE? Well, it's a PE, so I know it's gonna be expensive. I'm gonna say, it's an Organ PE. I wanna say either four or 5,000. I'm gonna say 4,000. That's, yep, that's right. Yeah? Cause I feel like the ones... You really be around these shoes too much. Yeah, but like the other ones, like full green ones with the suede and stuff, like I feel like those are gonna be more expensive, so. Okay, yeah. You're doing solid. So you guys are probably wondering why that shoe is worth so much, but it looks so similar. These are actually made for the University of Oregon, which is called a PE, or player edition, player exclusive, whatever you like to call it. Either way, it's a lot more rare and only made sometimes tens of pairs or maybe a couple hundred pair, depending on the shoe. And usually when there's less pairs, that means the price goes up. So we're gonna be showing you guys some good options as well when it comes to the player exclusives because I know everybody wants to get their hands on them, but at the same time, we gotta see what the affordable options that look really similar to those. So I'm ready to put her to the test and see if she can get these right. UNC4, general release, UNC4, player edition. Okay. The player edition came out before the general release did. Okay. I imagine the value of this lowered once this came out, but it's still a hard find probably because it's still a PE. So I feel like I've heard you talk about this shoe. Look, you need to add those to my collection. Yeah, I feel like I've heard you talk about this shoe. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say 5,000. 8,000. Eight? I don't mean no one, you know? But I mean, the materials are nice, the suede's nice. So what do you think about those compared to the general release? How much do you think the general release is worth? General release, I'm gonna stick with a coup 500. 500? Yeah, that's actually pretty close. Five, five, 50, somewhere around there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do I get a point for this? Yep, so you got that one, right? Cool, cool, cool. But the PE is definitely off.  But yeah. All right, on to the next one. So right here we have the Michigan five. This is the player edition in your right hand and the general release in your left hand. Okay. Also, the one in your right hand. Yes. This is the more exclusive version of the Michigan five, just so you know. Okay. And there's people outside going crazy right now. It's raining in LA, people don't know how to have. Anyways, what are your thoughts? Okay, my thoughts, my thoughts, sorry, I was trying to look at them side by side to see the big differences. There's obviously a big color difference here in the yellow and in the tongue and inside area. Price difference, I'm gonna say, you said this is more exclusive. I'm gonna say $9,000. 9,000, try 15. $15,000? Those are very rare. So what do you think? I'm trying to think of what I would justify spending $15,000 on to wear. Those? These? Yeah. I don't really like these that much. I can hear you. I was talking to them, not talking to you. Okay. These, I'm gonna say, so this, if this is 15 and this is the GR, I'm gonna say 800. 250. 250? Yeah. That's so cheap. That's a really good price. Really, really good price. Wow, that's crazy. All right, you guys, honestly, she did a pretty solid job. How are you guys doing? Let me know down below in the comment section when it comes to your guesses. Now, yes, I know these are some very expensive sneakers, but I'm telling you right now, we got three more that are even more expensive. All right, so you got the red, Unite, Air Jordan 3, also known as Red Cements and your left hand, and then you got the DJ Khaled, We The Best, Air Jordan 3, and the right hand, so. So look, I know this is super exclusive. I know all the Khaleds are definitely more exclusive, and I'm gonna say that this is, and I might be crazy, but I'm gonna say it's 20. Yeah, that's right. Is that right? Yep, somewhere around there. Yeah, that makes sense to me, because I know that these are very exclusive shoes. 20,000, right? Yeah, yeah, 20,000. Yeah. So what do you think about the GR release then? I'm giving it 250. 250, it's about 300, it's close. Look, I didn't put on each of these then, because that was really close. Honestly, you're getting way more right than I thought, and you're getting really close. Look, you're rubbing off on me. Yeah, this is nice. Give her a plot in the comment section. She knows her numbers. So you got the Brad Force, classic, OG in your left hand, you got the OVO Force, Splatters, yep, those OVOs in your right hand. Okay, I'm gonna go with this one first, because it's classic. I'm gonna say it's probably a little higher than a normal shoe, because there's more demand for it. I'm gonna say 450. Try seven. Seven? Yeah, they just keep going up. Okay, but that makes sense to me, because like what I just said, it's classic shoe. It's one of the most iconic. Yeah, people want this shoe. Yeah, you wear it with anything. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so what do you think about the Drake's? This one, because it's Drake, I'm gonna give it, I don't think it was as much as the Cowlids. Maybe though, I'm gonna meet in the middle. I'm gonna say 18,000. There's about 20, 18, 20 somewhere around there. Yeah, so that's pretty close. Yeah, yeah, cool. Obviously it was relative to the buyer and all those different situations, so I'll give you that one. I'll say that's pretty close. But I don't get this one. Nope, nope, nope, nope. All right, on to the final shoe. Black cement, Air Jordan 3, classic, iconic, again, just like the Brad Ford's, you cannot go wrong with it. Then you got the Victory Lap, Nipsey Hustle, Air Jordan 3, crazy shoe. Yeah, these shoes are dang near identical. It's really just the bottom and then the stitching. But because it's Nipsey, Nipsey Pass, again, RIP. I'm gonna say the shoe cost, I'm gonna say the shoe cost, I don't think it's as high as the Calid's and the Drake's, but maybe I could be wrong about that. Let's go with, let's go 15, 15,000. 30,000. Wow, that's crazy. I'm holding $30,000. Well, it's like 15, because there's only one shoe. True, you got me there. Okay. And I didn't say the price of this, right? Yeah, what do you think that one is? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say 350. 350? Yeah. About like 600. Dang, so these classic colorways, like the, anything that's like- Classic. Yeah, it's gonna be more expensive. It's always a good investment and it's always a good shoe to have in your collection if it's a classic OG colorway. Okay, noted, noted. All right, we're out of here. So those were 10 different options right there. And honestly, I feel like my wife did a pretty good job. Let me know how she did down below in the comment section and how you guys did as well when it comes to the guessing. I know, yes, we can say some of these sneakers are affordable, even though they still might be five, six, seven, 800 bucks. But when you think relative to some of these player exclusives in those different editions, it's gonna be a lot more cheaper. So it's again, buy what you like. And if you don't wanna spend that price, it's up to you. I just wanted to give you guys a good example of some rare and exclusive options and then some affordable options as well. If you wanna see any other videos like this, let me know down below in the comment section and we'll definitely be sure to get one. Shout out to Untied. Make sure you hit the link down below and I'll have everything for their website and their Instagram and all those things for them. I'll see you guys in another one. I will never let you down. Yo, before you go, I just launched my sneaker head Academy where we got everything on the inside. I teach you all the stuff that I learned over the past 15 years. When it comes to sneakers, scaling, real estate, you name it, we talk about all of it in there.  I give away shoes literally way too much, honestly. 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Njali hwami, mweli na kato na kumuli mweli kwa kiwani, h ماja hwaji hwaha nilo, hakemi nikini wanya w행uha wadi hika, hivengu wakameo na ukusivi yaw, hwaki mweli nikimi wakamea ako hwami ni pwengi kwa mweli hwaki mweli hwani na hwaki kiku ni hasa mweli Nama yubere wa hawatu nama napitokole agandu kwa mahtu pwkwa mahi ni release mahi nama kwa mahtu kwa mahtu pwkwa mahi nama, wajie, kitakumabu n قamba kajhto. Haide ni kansati wajie wajie hote. Naiki wajie n lau, kwa ubuja wajie waisha illuwe mozo nida. Kwenimuwe waisha wajie kut명uwe yaweki, naiki wajie nida. Naiki wajie, naiki waja hote, Not only blind ears to this, but even a blind eye and ears has completely gone back on his weight. What he saw as injustice and a pf, he now sees as the things that are just five. I don't even have to go through the litany of our citizens that have been subjected to these breaches of the rule of law. You remember incidents sometime last year when people were being bundled up from Lusanka, driven all the way to a place, a remote place like Shangumbu because some UPND Kada has reported them to the police in Shangumbu until it became so embarrassing to the UPND itself that Kunilias Muetua as a party spokesperson had to say this has to come to an end. Now if it came to an end because the party spokesperson said so, it meant that it was orchestrated originally by the party itself. We had never seen that kind of thing before. Never. That a person that has been arrested or a person or a citizen whom the police can send a decent call out if they want me at the police station, sure they don't have to come at four a.m. to my house. They can send me a call out and they know that I will submit to the police. So you ask a very important question because it goes to the bedrock of governance itself. That's what defines what governance or misgovernance is. So HH has been a big big letdown to the Zambian people and this is not even a political statement. It is something that is truthful. It is something that is in the public domain now. But a man that the people of Zambia believed would turn around the injustices that they saw under PF is orchestrating those injustices today, is allowing those injustices to live on. You spoke of people being bundled on police vehicles taken to far, far in areas of the country just to go and answer the allegations made by maybe one particular individual who maybe might belong to the ruling party as one violation now. Clearly the side of the UPND has been that those that were doing the wrong or those that do the wrong things, the institutions that are mandated to investigate is the ones that is at work here, not the UPND at all. No.  Anybody that is going to tell you that the police has an institution and the officers in that institution do not read the mood of those that are in power will be telling a lie. They're very good at reading the mood of those that are in power and they have to please the powers that be. That I can tell you for a fact. There's one particular statement which the expert general police reacted to as we were ending the week last week, IG Grafaro Omsamba complained or rather he issued a statement to say those that are saying that police is dentening the image of the UPND because of how it's carrying out its duties are speaking on the on the side of being ignorant and that he was reacting to what UPND National Youth Chairperson Gilbert Luzoniso said when he appeared on Radio Phoenix that the people talk because then he was talking about the police brutality that we've seen that was reported in some past few days or months now as as has been you know maybe pushed by the government you know or the government having a blessing at that brutality that was happening. So there was an exchange of words there. One issued a statement on a media platform and that person replied to say wow the police is not dentening anybody's image when conducting duties. Look look if if if there is if there is any institution that is very good at decompening in political party is the police that I can tell you for a fact the police are very good at decompening the government in power okay for the party in power because they do stupid things sorry to use that way they do things that are outside the civil liberties the principles of civil civil liberties of citizens and like I've said earlier nobody would believe not even a fellow in Nicaissa here would believe that the 12 police officers that went you know to pick up a manual member from a chaos beat him up I met him recently I met him you know last week I couldn't even shake his right hand because he's still hurting he's still nursing injuries in his right hand right hand no citizen would believe that that group of officers is not denting the image of of the government nobody and nobody would believe that they are not doing that on behalf of the government so whereas whereas it was a sad incident the manual which is the most the most recent it's very good for the citizen to see what UPND is all about so Cuba to this one is was right it was very right in the observation that he made and Musamba was wrong and you know that's what they always do when they've been appointed they're very excited we saw it with the lemika joba they get very excited like I've already told you as if achiever for the first time but the day of recording will come can you say for that day comes they would have finished UPND can you say is it's it's the politicians themselves that tend to you don't make the work of the police heart no what what what what did the manual member do what did the manual member do they didn't send a call out to him if the police had said look we followed this man you know to the car wash because we sent him a call out he didn't come we sent him a second one did he didn't come we probably sent him the third one he didn't come so we had to mount a money hand the problem would have had an argument so what did what did the poor guy do what did Esther Longu do that they needed to go with grinders you know to to go and look for one vehicle would be suspected to be at your residence what did they send her a policy call out and said to her there is a suspected vehicle registration number x which we believe is at your residence under the following circumstances there is a complainant over this matter please will you surrender that vehicle to us sure as a decent low abiding citizen she would have done that so in what way do we as politicians make policy work difficult we don't I meant to ask that uh uh uh based on uh you know what has been said when it comes to the police and that the government then play pledging allegiance to the government of the day uh because it's been for a very long time we've always believed that uh you know politics uh politicians generally would uh you know uh command the police to do things uh we heard that in the in the previous regime where you know the uh the party that is in power right now would complain on the way the police would carry themselves the time they were in the opposition towards them and it's a continuous discussion that goes on uh each party that forms government obviously uh you know would want the police to do what they want look the the the the nature the nature of the state in the third world country is totally different from the characteristics of the state in the developed world okay in the developed world even in a small country like israel a police a police you know exhibits independence again you read you know up to now you know that the there are still cases that are running again against former prime minister Boris Johnson in London because he's been under investigations by the Metropolitan Police in London for having breached COVID rules okay the you know the police called him for an interview and he has ended up losing his part position purely on account that the man is under investigation okay prime minister Netanyahu in Israel he's been indicted by the police you saw him drive you know to the police station for the police to go and take a statement from him it it doesn't happen in a third world country why because the state in a third world country is believed to be synonymous with those that are in power or the person that is at the helm of power okay in a developed in a developed country like the United States the CIA bugs the phone of the president of the United States Joe Biden now they bug that for why because he could be a danger to the state himself he is not the state he hope you will not do that we don't know who hh talks to we don't know whether the people that he talks to he talks to them in the interest of this nation they don't do that so there is a fundamental difference between the state as it operates in in in in in the developed country and the the way it operates in the third world country in the third world country the state is synonymous with the those that are in power and the person that is at the helm of power you only come to learn the wrongdoings of the person who is at the helm of power in a third world country when they are out of power not when they are in power in fact i'll tell you my position myself i personally believe that even in this constitutional article that the president must be must enjoy immunity from arrest war in office is not is not right it is high time from our experience that it should be removed why do we want to continue as a country having somebody in the state house who is a criminal and wait until after five years why why do we want they able to a criminal to continue running their affairs of state of this country for five years because the article in the constitution says that is immune enough from any criminal or civil investigations no the person that you put in the state house must ensure he himself or herself must ensure that he is above reproach and that is low abiding during that period he must not be given a moratorium of five years to do wrong things so none of the things that caused problems in third world countries we get to look at you know just the few issues that have happened in the past days one of them was you know the resignation of the auditor general which raised a couple of issues and there are people that feel that the auditor general was pushed to that level for him to basically just resign so what do you want me to say I'm left to get your position as of course a economic friend on that is there pressure that was exhibited on the resignation of the auditor general maybe just to I'll tell you what that he discovered yeah I'll tell you what I've discovered what I've discovered is that he was I think accountant general at the minister of finance and I've spoken to a few people within the minister of finance and outside the minister of finance and the information we have gathered as EF is that there was a lot of wrongdoing not the minister of finance during that time a lot of wrongdoing somebody was telling me a story of how six million kwacha cash was withdrawn and just disappeared you know I don't I don't you know unless and until Dr. Sitchen be poofs himself innocent I'll not come to his case that he has been unfairly treated no okay yeah good anybody that has money for example so sorry I'm not you know one of the proponents of that school thought we get to do something also that raised a bit of talk and one of issues now that people are thinking I don't know if this was just according to the people that are in government today that was just a stance to the public sympathy according to them the you know the briefing that was held by the you know the children to the former president with regards to the treatment they've been given since the president Edykata Walungu the former president of course left power they cried foul that the state is trying them in the general or should I say on the media as opposed to quote and they want to be taken to court to answer to to answer to allegations that have been labeled against them before the public yes I think the issue there is this firstly the constitution excuse me the constitution of the republic of zambia guarantees you and I the right to private property you have a right to own property in this country under the zambia constitution okay and that property cannot be taken away from you without the due process of law second point I think the point that the lungus we are making was this short is executing of that process by the DPP if you recall that press conference came on the heels of the DPP saying that he had made an application to court without trying you know those that own the property and he wanted this property forfeited to the state now if you if you suspect me to be in position of property that is the suspected to be process of crime under the zambia constitution like I said area I enjoy the right of the presumption of innocence that I'm innocent until I'm proven guilty so the way you do it is take me to court prosecute me and the way you do it is take a statement from me I don't have to read about your steps in the media of course you are in the democracy it is always good that the public knows what is happening to every citizen but you don't do it in reverse if you remember when the DPP took those steps the lawyer Makebizuru issued a statement said how can you go to the press before you even save any process any court documents owners as lawyers or even only so-called accused so I think there is a bit of excitement also within the DPP's office and the anti-corruption office you know over over these matters and that's how they are and that's why they are missing themselves up that's why that's why we can't see the expected results in this fight against corruption because I don't know what's going on you know I mean I I I work to you myself again you know in local government you know I remember in the 1988 one Shamanaku the late Joshua Smuzaia was DPP I never I never heard or saw DPP Joshua Smuzaia go and hold a press conference that we have arrested the Edward Shamanah we are prosecuting you know Edward Shamanah because he wanted to overthrow the government and the main DPPs that came you know after that Joshua Smuzaia you know Grigori Piri retired judge now and never I never saw them in the press this excitement that we are seeing now from these small boys every day they want to be in the press every day they want to be in the press oh my god that's not how that job is done can you give reverence you know to that office okay so I think the longus have a right to cry for that if you are going to try them in the court of public opinion then it means you don't have a case against them if you have a case against them you do it quietly you take them you know before you know a tribune established by law meaning a court of law one produce the evidence and then away from the DPPs press statements let the magistrate you know make a decision if they are grieved by that decision by the magistrate you know that they got the right to go to the high court if they are grieved by the decision of the high court you know that they got the right to go to the court of appeal to the court of appeal if they are still not satisfied with the judgment of the court of appeal you know that they've got the right to go to the supreme court so why does the DPP want to make himself the alpha and the omega in the criminal justice system I think that is wrong let's get to um some of the sentiments that were also made I remember uh you know um the member of the patriotic front who is also in the race to becoming um you know in the race to the president of the patriotic front Mr. Brandon after that particular you know briefing from the lungus there he issued a statement to say that the upnd the way they are conducting themselves towards the former president is like his immunity was lifted already can we say that there's a bit of truth in that in that statement there with the regards or maybe the question should be how how is the treatment uh you know towards the former president is it sour when it comes to the current president and the former president I don't know I don't I don't want to to speculate I don't know about you know the nature of the statement again only again only again only you know descend that you know from from the circumstantial evidence you know of what I see mm-hmm okay what I what I certainly see is that you know HH is getting for HCL no doubt okay okay I mean he can't wait to get at him okay he can he can he can make any statement you know that no I'm I'm not after you know Ed Galungu you know he's he's officials can say no no he's not after you know the truth of the matter is that the man is traveling at the high speed on this road of vengeance against Ed Galungu for a silly offense which he absorbed committed in mongu okay for a silly offense which he committed to excite people to show people in mongu that he was very popular and he wanted you know to block the presidential monarchy and I said it you know or on many programs you know that if it were in other countries HH would have been short would have been short dead that day like the security people because he was risking the life of a head of state so he did something silly himself and now now it turns around to be vengeful against the action that was taken against him the difference you know that the position that I took at that time was that what he did was not reasonable all right okay and I made that statement when HCL was still in office I said yes what has happened is silly but this is not reason I still went ahead to pay my visit you know in prison not because he hadn't done something wrong but because he was a colleague in the opposition so there is no doubt that the man is still Peter from that experience so all this thing about you know the lungos is is is targeted at HCL at the end of the day so he has to harass his children he has to harass his wife you know and he stress the man and that kind of thing you know but you see what is what is really saddening is that HH has more important problems on his hands than HCL he has more important things the people here in the chipata compound are going hungry they don't care about HCL as far as they are concerned is already out of power what they want is for him to deal with issues of their bread and butter this morning there's a there's a contingent of police officers on the streets in town to throw out the street vendors those street vendors and not the problem they are a symptom of a collapsed economy an economy which he promised to come and fix they are doing that because they want jobs from him and he promised them jobs so my view is that he has much more important thing that should be keeping him awake at night and not HCL even if even if he even assuming that he locked up HCL tomorrow how would that improve the kwacha dollar rate how would that feed the people of chawama how would that reduce the the price of fuel in this country how in god's name would the locking up of HCL just turn around this economy overnight so if he wants to listen to an independent piece of advice it's Bwana if HCL has done something wrong the law will catch up with him and you are not the police officer leave that to the police in the meantime get on with the business that the zambian people voted you for let's look at previously I know that I don't know maybe this is a zambian way or the african way that uh when uh you know a leader leaves power uh there's um the issue of following them up uh based on what they did when they were the helmet of power we talk about uh you know what happened during the mmd chilua monawasa scenario let's talk about also uh rupia banda uh the late uh you know uh my kuchili fesat as well how do we change that going forward in our in our political we change we change that you doing by what I said earlier let's remove the article that allows the sitting head of state to be immune from any criminal investigation or even prosecution until they get out of power I think we have learnt now from the past okay and and I can tell you that article also has a a historical context because we inherited it from the colonial era okay as you know in the United Kingdom the queen is the head of state the prime minister is head of government and because the queen is not involved or the king now King Charles III is not involved in politics he is he is given you know or or that that that infaribility that he can't do anything wrong okay but now we have learnt that in fact you can commit an offense while you are seated in a state house my argument I go back to it again is we can't we should not wait for five years we should be able to submit that person to the police so I was minister of justice who moved the emotional environment against arabi for the lifting of his immunity and I don't apologize for it I don't regret because we had evidence okay that arabi had done something wrong when he was the head of state and we wanted him answerable I can tell you that it was not malicious we didn't sit in a corner with microsoft and I you know and the and the and the tried to connive against you know arabi that's not my character the queen pf came into power under ecl the same people that voted for that motion turned around and voted against it meaning they didn't believe in what you were voting that surprised me but obviously they exchanged the vote because he I'm told the arrangement was that you know arabi made easier wini in eastern province I'm not sure about that but anyway that was their their time but we need to get this thing dissolved and the way we get around it is that if you are head of state we hear that you are doing something wrong at community house the police must be able to call you and take a statement from you right yeah now president coming but let's get to look at also something that has been quite topical and I don't know when it will come to be put to rest or maybe we have to wait until you know the current president leaves that office is the issue of the president's residence in this case is uh not housed at uh enkwazi house and that in itself has been a topical issue we don't know what our law says about where the president is supposed to stay there is there is no specific law that says that the president must stay in enkwazi house there's no law like that okay he can squat even in chipata compound okay but the convention the convention since independence is that the president stays at enkwazi house the governor of northern rhodesia sir evelim hon the last governor of northern rhodesia sir evelim hon his residence is what you see as state house today where the office of the president is that was the residence of the governor okay after 1964 counter built enkwazi house and he he started living in enkwazi house and the successive presidents have lived in enkwazi house and there are many reasons for that firstly it's easy access to the office counter sometimes used to work from enkwazi house to the office the president works long into the night not our president whenever he per when he was 16 hours when he was reporting at 10 hours okay many like counter they used to report you know or at the office at six i think i'm down office he reads his intelligence briefing he works late into the night okay there are two bedrooms in enkwazi house there are two bedrooms such that you know if the president comes late comes back late from the office and he doesn't want to disturb you know the wife he goes into the next bedroom and remember when we were students at onza in 1980 just shortly before we graduated we demonstrated as the students you know because it's not good yabu you know those days so where there are a lot of energy so we demonstrated you know over zimbabwe you know because we are very politically conscious not my students were mad you're very welcome with me or allowance allowance was what i needed was we went to state house and keke came out you know to address us and as he was addressing us the wife walked across you know to him thought about nine hours i'm not mistaken she had come from uth where she was visiting a relative who was a patient there you know and then she she whispered something to keke and after she left keke said to us you know i've not seen this late for three days they were in the same house some house because of the nature of the manzi duties national duties not much over i mean it you on i kusobana uku kwangal uku this is cheap to be honest with you those of us that so how you know men like keke keke told us i've not seen my wife for three days not because the wife was spending a night somewhere or keke was spending a night somewhere they were in the same house because they would have a central committee meeting and the cabinet joint meeting running into the early hours of the morning you can't go and walk into the bedroom where your wife is so you go and explain so there are a lot of advantages problem is that we are dealing with it you know a young generation now that does not know the past of this country and these things are not taught you know at the at secondary school history we continue teaching you know who discovered the victoria foz you know david livingstone when that is not even correct okay so the advantage the other advantage is security the other advantage is security because you know the head of state is the embodiment of the security of this nation so so the security of the head of state is a major major priority for state security so you can't have a president using the same route every day to state house using the same route you know back to community house every day is no security like that so but clearly the president is not doing anything wrong maybe that's what we should be no it's not it's not a question of wrong or right it's not a question of wrong or right you know yes he is doing something wrong because if something happened to him today it can destabilize this nation so to that extent he is doing something wrong that life is no longer his life alone okay it can destabilize the nation okay I mean we we were told we have read that Trump's house in florida is is is far much better than the the house he lived in in washington dc when he was president and Trump is a rich man he could have decided to be flying from florida to washington dc every day even using his only fuel you'd have said I don't want to live you know in the office you know at the at the at the at the white house sorry I don't want to live at the white house I want to live in florida and I'll be flying myself in a 7 in a born 737 to washington dc and back he didn't do that and he would not be allowed to do that there's not a question of right or wrong or right and wrong it's a question of these are issues of security for the head of state and again I'll give you another example the president is not in charge of his security takes me back to the point that I made earlier that the problem with the state in Africa in zambia in particular is that it is synonymous with the person who is in power but the president is not in charge of his security the president must listen to what the security operators experts say to him he's supposed to be directed again I'll give you an example in the 1990 during the 1991 you know when the euphoria of mmd you know came to the fore they had the the security people had reinforced keke's security yet he had more security vehicles with him and at a press conference the problem when he changed when I was a fan what between when I was here okay me had already started working a bbc reporter asked keke and he said we see now that you have reinforced your security are you afraid of your life is your life at risk and keke firstly you know he laughed that lovely laughter of his and he said the young lady I also see the people around me you know bearing guns but I don't know why they are there I remember that answer very well from keke at a press conference he said I don't know why they are there I don't even know who brings them I don't even know what they want so I'm just as surprised as you are the point that keke was making was I'm not in charge of my security not in charge there is there is a system that takes care of that okay that's a point he was making so this is not about the right and wrong you know what and what no this is about the security system saying to the president you know I will give you another example there was a district conference you know for UNIP in Chongwe okay here now and it was held that the ZDNC camp and the as the heads of department were asked you know to attend it was compulsory anyway no they were asked were directed to attend there was a guard of one that was mounted by ZDNC okay and when keke came when keke came he was wearing you know a green green deep green safari suit which blended very well with the the guard of honor you could hardly see him why because I'm sure he must have been advised by the security people sir this is what you wear for security reasons so like you've said uh presidency that office in itself you know the assistance so meaning that you know the current system to the president advise him they say well it's okay you can be coming from they don't even advise they don't even advise you know they are scared of losing a job okay they don't even advise muana they don't even advise you know they live under the principle what I call keeping a job by not doing it okay if you want to keep your job don't do it that's a principle that I've seen myself in the public service if you want to keep your job just don't do it that's why but there is also another fundamental you know or issue which is related to this um we have heard that there you know there is some infrastructure that has been added on to that house is personal house okay at the expense of the state money from the treasury now there is no law that allows the state the treasury to spend money on my personal property just because I've become president so that expenditure is illegal it is illegal today when H8 is in that house it will be illegal when he comes out and he runs a risky of getting that property forfeited to the state the way this property at the arcade was forfeited to the state which was supposed to be chirubazi uh institute for democrats and industrial relations so why why do you want to to be wrong when you can be right I get surprised myself why do you want to be wrong when you can simply be right okay so he runs now when you start following him up you know after that you the same generalist you start holding interviews no but why are we following up with all my head of state you know he's doing something wrong now so the right thing would have been him being housed at kwaizi house not the right thing the wisest thing okay yeah let's get to open up the four lines in case you'd love to be a part of live issues feel free to call in on 09767 624270 that is Rona in 777624270 for the interaction my guest this morning is economic front party leader President Vinta Kavimba is my guest as we are discussing patent issues let's get to hear what your thoughts are as we pick up this one here as a first call of the morning good morning to you sir how are you doing today I'm doing fine good morning I'm Rona Vinta Kavimba good morning sir thank you yet again Mr Kavimba he has collected on live to record radio how are you sir I'm Kasoka the man who called the flow of Mutender yesterday all right Mr Kasoka good to have you here talk to us Mr Kavimba he's 2011 I was there I was the president when you moved the motion to remove the unit of Mutia Panda and the from the look of things there was a lot of objections from the MP and from my own observation you didn't reach the two state requirements that was the you were supposed to do they achieved Mutia Panda remove remove of with the unit of Mutia Panda because first of all I think this is the best time now for you to tell the nation how many people were in parameters on that day and how many people got it to have the unit removed if it amounted to to say so my calculation we insisted on moving the motion even when people accepted I think you removed the motion I mean you removed the the Arabi community I think on less than 100 people you know I think it was 98 or so you know it goes far less from the two states required the threshold now there's another question so in my small book I've written a book there's a chapter in 90 other people's factors from my observation you'll see 90 numbers factors from way back when it was fighting at the end which I think the moment you mentioned that it was your classmate it along with your classmate I think the narrative has been quite funny I mean pretty if you know what I mean you could exciting me let the room with matters even when you know that he brought some of the basic principles of the constitution for example when somebody needs petitioned as president they're supposed to stand as happy and lead the speaker to act as president you ignore that and simply look at it as normal there's another provision in the constitution which says if somebody is an MP for a constituent for example Lusambo was an MP for a constituency you cannot appoint him as provision minister you know you cannot have empty the Lusambo world and then at the same time I think it is that for 10 or 10 or at 104 times they have said so we are at okay they just want you to be quick you can yeah for good day so it's what I'm saying pyramid works too we move what we need of a president and the same pyramid works too we store immunity so in short what I'm asking over store this will pay up under unity what's the time that the staff on this to restore will pay up under unity will respond to the up under unity did he die with him did he need to be moved or did he die with him did he need to be moved what you know but what you know thank you so much thank you so much we appreciate it I'll let you respond to him because he's asked the number of issues that he wants you to call look if he Mr Kasoka is writing a book let him revise you know that book okay Mr. Kasoka if you are I hope you are listening if you are writing that book sir please revise the chapters in your book because your facts are wrong okay fact number one which is wrong at the time when he I moved the motion to strip let president appear a band of his immunity he didn't require a two-thirds majority it was a simple majority go back to that to that article in the constitution at that time so correct that in your book sir number two the small group of the UPND sorry of MMD then and UPND walked out of parliament the column was still maintained and the speaker went ahead to conduct a vote and the vote was unanimous correct that in your book fact number three what you need to correct there is no constitutional provision which says if you are a member of parliament you can't be appointed minister the way Rustam was appointed wrong fact so if you want your book to sell please correct those facts thank you all right zero nine double seven six two four two seven zero is the number that you are using to get to us good morning morning yes good morning to you sir good morning what is your voice did you talk to people about what you have done what you have done thank you and of course I have been always advising you Mr. Wintagarembara when you are given chance to speak to the people yes and you are claiming that you are a leader of a political party that's something which we can't go stop the stand now by people in the and they will say yes this one is a political leader why are you calling if what I'm saying has no substance why are you calling in I would you look up hello why are you calling in if what I'm saying has no substance just ignore me and get on with your work no because you you want to be you want to be my leader in one of these days not you yourself because it doesn't matter if I don't vote for you it is a majority vote for you you will be my president but I congratulate you before you become a president thank you for that confusion you cannot come there and talk about the agency's house agency cannot fail to renovate this house if you manage to build all that house how can fail to renovate just a few things because you want to put there you will be aligned to the Zanias that the entity constructed the road which goes to his house are you sure that road is one entity that is using to treat him oh it doesn't mean that the people is treating him that's why we can say we don't care the line is breaking a bit hello I'm saying the line is breaking slightly okay you may have to call us back I don't know because the line was no I've heard what you have said yeah I've heard what you have said all right so if you've heard then maybe let's pick up some more so that maybe we can have three in total that you can respond to okay yeah good morning you're through to live issues you're going to write a name you have no idea whether it depends on who you are and where you come from and where you are Thank you for that submission there. Let's bring in one more call then we can put a hold to the calls as I allow my guest to respond to your submissions. Good morning. Yes, good morning. We can hear you. Good morning. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We can hear you, sir. Yes, uncle Joe, please go ahead with your submission. One problem that you have, anything that someone does, that means okay, and you don't have that opportunity or that chance to advise your colleagues. What you are there for is condemned. That's what you only know. You just condemn and condemn.  Now, if you don't advise me on colleagues here, then I prefer to not be the president of this country.  So, I think that we need to move forward with the trust that we have. But, if we don't do that, you are there as a parent. As a parent you need to advise your colleagues. We will bring you in based on those allegations. Wait,ンホルセイ? If he doesn't understand English very well, he should just come up. na kambaba wukamba uti sinagabeku mozaro dhia zemene ienda guli heche heche taninda nbama gani amugwa goo hunkabuli heche heche avunoti incited anybody qemene na kamba ni wukamba uti heche heche muine, mukamua kake ana kambati nene nikabuera ine ima monsi muzenkara na jitu ana wukzengulu wuka na kapamera kaunga hati muvuti kamaningi mu pf ine nikabuera ine muzambo gola 25 kg muna nikumvera baya baa baa hati bene abrada jo ango jo muna nikumvera mueka ana wukamba kamoa kake sinite na wukumu manga kamoa orukumu segura kamoa cho wakme na kama saan kama saan wakme na kama saan Sama hukierinu kama na hami wakimi na kama ujio na kama n Cage nika. Wumpa ewa. kama na aymu nakabubat kama na wikia kwa ka huwa niwa haba ya enu yada knani So it is you that are supporting him, that are supposed to go and advise him, please do the money if ever, that is how they used to praise seeing ECO, just like that, there were other uncle Jaws like you under PF, go and advise the man because you are speaking for yourself, you may be even speaking from a tribal angle, there are other people out there that are going hungry and they are not happy with the UPND regime and whether or not I become president is neither here nor there, one thing that is fundamental is that I am a citizen of this country, I am a shareholder of this country and I don't want to be governed by somebody who is wrong, even if I am not president and that I will talk, at least you have said that I have got a small following, at least you have considered, that is important, I thought you are going to say I am just alone with my wife, so you the praise singers of HHE do him a favor and tell him the truth, don't allow him to walk around like a naked emperor because you will be the ones that are killing the man and if you continue like that HHE won't go beyond 2026, that I can tell you alright, let's see if we can allow a few more calls before we get to the end of the program, 0977 624 270, be as brief as possible as you get through on the line, good morning good morning, good morning, is that like video? yes, there are two live videos, who do we have on the line? you are Mr. Sehsema Mr. Sehsema Mr. Sehsema, good to have you here, where are you calling us from? I am calling you from Kitwe ok, come to us did you know where Mr. Sehsema is from? I am from Kwae you know the story, when you need to sit down and begin to think to think to see how it will be that advice you have given me as a dealer you need to know what to watch here at HHE it is very true, you are actually showing love to the president right now I hope you, the interviewer there who kicked us on records so that it won't turn to Kwae if the man has a problem with another dealer that is going to come into power with that house we have some other features there the order has been taken there and many security features couldn't have been put in that house we hope it will be seen so that he doesn't have a problem in the future now, let me talk about such things in the land that Mr. Kitwe is always there like in the land that Mr. Sehsema is in he is very poor ok, like with him he doesn't even care if he is a president, he is a liar if he is a president, he is probably the number one thing and when we go for him to account for his promises people are calling you Mr. Karima you must be very jealous you are not jealous sir today the price of meeting you is reaching 250 kwae in other parts of the country but the man says to have a bag of me and me acting, I don't know if it is 50 kwae now when we ask him let the new wuga for the 50 kwae if they are there in you you are jealous keep on talking for example as people you are the only one who is very objective you sit down and now what you have to come and say me I will not be saying that people have just been saying that you are the most experienced leader that you have in this country and that the leader will be very honest and take yourself very objective being followed by the drug enforcement commission that you have stolen water and water from this country that kind of people you are the people that this situation for the people who are here they are on her pair we get the support the last couple that I want to meet 180 me so ashamed of Mr. Kavimba we are planting for 180 me so far that has been did by AIM the money that we don't have planned they have got on God thank you so much Mr. Kavimba God bless you let's bring in the last 3 voice notes that I have received about what's up this morning justice if we left our friends on what's up hanging without obviously being hurt let's start with this one here Mr. Kavimba thank you for correcting me just the previous caller there are people that just like talking just because they have to talk thank you for correcting all of us then the other people out there who are also saying what this man is saying is wrong thank you for correcting all of us thank you we've never seen such a closeness we have seen a city in 10p of the costwaes cannot be appointed thank you thank you Mr. Kavimba that is very wrong that is very wrong people must not just wake up from their blackies and come and be seen in the people we feel they want to please their party or their leaders in the party please they pray them first to get facts good morning my name is Kavimba Kavimba we have never loved the president from the time he was in opposition we can never say anything good about the president because we hated them ever since so just stay back we don't want to advise them on anything because the president want the majority without your vote without your members vote so there's nothing similar that you can say on the president as good thing that you have done are you telling us that there's nothing that the president has done look at the CDF we have broadened CDF all members of parliament they can now utilize that CDF even in PF we have members of parliament like Kachiria and we have a lot of people that are benefitting from CDF look at the resentment or introduction of new allowances in government training institutions all that you cannot see look at the free education from grade 8 which has been introduced to grade 12 are you telling us that you are blind but we are coming soba up with my big man come and bring alternative ideas Zambians now have waken up they are looking for a position that can give alternative not hate speech so what you are saying is that you can never appreciate the president and be it to you because we don't want you to advise delay the president's work yes the issue of medium it will be sorted out but that you cannot to campaign the president over the issue of medium so watch and see the 1 million different votes that we are must in 2026 I am telling you to be 5 million watch and see this is Zambian position of nothing to offer so just be the way you are we don't want you to advise this is comment from Mrs. Hea thank you good morning my best man Eugene and good morning president Wintagabimba president Wintagabimba you are embracing to this country why I am saying so because you have got full wisdom and the knowledge so to say we don't have politicians in this country who thinks like you that is the problem that we have in this country it is my prayer that we can have politicians who thinks like you then we are going to have a better Zambia because this is our country what is going on in this country right now with this government of UPND president HHE is a terrible to be honest with you today I was I was passing town I find lot of officers police officers with guns and so on and so forth removing vendors without any notice and those people they are preparing now to start playing and so forth and this time which is very bad president Wintagabimba we need you in this country that you can save us you can save us to this UPND government we need you your leadership so to say because president HHE has failed to completely look at the price of millimil look at the price of fuel they promise us heaven and the earth but what they are doing right now is terrible is wrong we are dying with this government of UPND and president HHE Mr. Wintagabimba help us you have got experience in this politics you are a man you are a man they are going to call no telling you don't worry about UPND those are pressing us we need you in this country we need you in this country we need you in this country we need you in this country they want to show their support and so forth we are behind you Mr. president God bless you sir thank you so much to all those who reached out to us using the WhatsApp platform we had to give you an opportunity to be heard president I will let you respond to those we can call it a wrap today well thank you very much Eugene I think the bottom line is this so our colleagues in the UPND thank you very much for those that have followed this program and we agree with my views on many of the issues I don't expect everybody to agree with me this is a democracy but when you start calling on me to love HHE you are talking to a wrong man I don't have to love there I don't have to fall in love with the president even the 2.8 million people that voted for him we don't know that of love they voted for him because they want to improve their life that's why they voted for him they didn't vote for him out of affection if what I'm saying is not enough advice you know to HHE then you shouldn't have to know that's what the members say because I think I'm rendering very