Welcome to today's lecture. This is continuation of design analysis of orbit motor part 3. Today we should discuss about how to find out, how to formulate the output torque, stress, deformation and gap at contacts. Now, if we look into the figure this is an interview of orbit motor where we have drawn a line through the contacts which are separating high pressure zone from low pressure zone or in other words the expansion mode to the compression modes. Now, what we have done we have joined we have considered a line here and if we consider the width of this star and ring then we may consider this is an beam where the pressure are uniformly distributed over this length joining two points. Then we can consider the total force acting at the middle of this beam so equivalent force. Now, the torque must be equal to this equivalent force F i into the distance r i which is from the instantaneous centre of rotations. Now, here one may confuse that we are considering the torque about the star why we are considering such a distance. The reason is that what we have considered this is the equivalent system we have considered in that equivalent system what we find that as if a there is a fixed drum in which this drum is rotating. Here of course if we consider the drum that is a friction drive which is not positive but let us consider these are the two gears. So, definitely to calculate the torque what we can find that as if this body is rotating about this pivot point by this force. So, definitely to rotate this body about this point whatever the torque that is in vector product r i into F i this is r i into this is F i this is half of the distance. So, that torque must be the output through this body which is nothing but the star. So, we can write down this is the torque. Now, this is sometimes it is called energy method but whatever may be the name in this way we can find out the theoretical torque output of this machine. This is the distance r i we should always remember. Now, I have drawn another figure here in this figure again I have shown here apparently slightly it has rotated by this angle in this case as if it has not rotated it is at this 0th angle if we remember our earlier access system. So, this is the x axis and this is the y axis this is the reference axis which is coinciding with the ring gear. Now, here we must know because we will refer i th chamber or roller etcetera. In this case we have considered this is roller 1, roller 2, roller 3 etcetera. Therefore, this must be the z th roller. In this case as we see in this figure we have considered 7 roller and as well we find the lobes in the star or 6 number of lobes the star in 6. Now, also we consider the chamber 1 which is in between 1 and 2 roller chamber 2 which is between 2 and 3 etcetera. So, this chamber at the 0th position that must be chamber 7 or z th chamber which is in this case 7 th chamber. Now, obviously the instantaneous point of rotation of equivalent drum is now situated on the x axis. Now, this whole body of the star is revolving around this axis in the anticlockwise directions whereas, this body itself rotating in the clockwise directions. So, output will be clockwise looking from this side. Now, in this case we have considered the high pressure zone and low pressure zone separated by this line and these two contacts we may consider active contacts. First of all these two contacts are active contacts. All contacts which is joining the instantaneous centre of rotations and the crew node which is nothing but the centre of the roller then these are the active contacts and among these active contacts there will be 7 active contacts. Among these active contacts these two are you can say the critical contacts which are separating the chambers from high pressure zone to low pressure zone. Now, instead of considering the axis I mean sorry the beam like this we may also consider the all contacts points joined together and we get in that case we will get 7 such line which obviously not equal in length. We may consider however that if we consider the these are the critical joints which are separating high pressure zone to low pressure zone we may consider in this side there will be the pressure each chamber is having equal pressure which is high pressure ok. Here of course I have considered that apparently this is a neutral conditions we do not know what is the pressure has history. It can be shown that even if we consider this is in high pressure zone or if we consider this is high pressure zone the pressure sorry the torque calculation will show the same value ok. Anyway if we consider this is in high pressure these three are high pressure. So, this is experiencing high pressure and again on these lines pressure distribution will be uniform equal pressure but keep in mind while this is moving these lengths are changing. So, these lengths may not be equal are normally not equal and on the other side this blue lines indicates these are separating I mean the chambers adjacent chambers by these contacts and joining these lines we consider the pressure is the outlet pressure you one may consider this is 0 and this is the differential pressure this will also give the same torque value this would give the same torque value. Now, however the equation for this will be different in that case what we are considering say this is I is varying from 1 to z any chambers in that case this is the length. So, force will be at the middle of that and then that multiplied by this distance say this is a typical one is shown here only one chamber I have shown the pressure is being distributed like this considering this equation will be better in a sense that actually in such machines we will find later that the gaps are generated here. So, case may be that pressure are not distributed over the whole length uniformly it might be the pressure is non uniform in that case if we can suppose they this pressure distribution is non uniform then if we can consider such mapping then we can accurately calculate the load and this distance the distance from that load to this instantaneous center of rotation and this will give us the more accurate torque that is the purpose of considering the pressure distribution in that way. So, here I have written the due to the inner chamber leakage flow through the capillary passage formed by the lobes adjacent to the active contact and at the flow distributed valve the pressure within the chamber may vary not only this we should remember the flow distributed valve is very close to that. So, due to that there may have the pressure change due to leakage through that. So, once the leakage through that all the paths are considered we may have different pressure history instead of the ideal pressure distribution. Now, let us for the simplicity let us consider there is no variation of this leakage then to find out the length we must know this contact points which can be calculated from the geometry for a particular rotation for a given rotation of the output shaft and then we can find out that length and we may consider the pressure p c n that is that chamber the pressure is p c n and the length is l i n and so this will be the force we can calculate the force in this way. Now, we can see the variation here now look at this variation you can see this lengths are varying again we will see this. So, we have just shown one chamber operation rotation for one chamber again you can look this how this distance are being changed and we have considered that this is the midpoint which can be this is the midpoint. So, this geometrically this we can calculate and easily we can find out the forces we can define this distance and planes in the vector form and we can do the vector multiplication. So, in that way torque can be calculated. Now, what we have calculated so far that is the ideal torque output of such machine. Now, in this machine first of all if we consider the assembly of rotor and stator we may consider that this is just exactly fit this means neither it is interference nor any gap at these contacts when these are assembled. In that case we should consider that there is no interference fit nothing is there. Now, due to the pressure we have considered we are considering now the pressure inside once there is a pressure means load and there will be deformations this deformations means there will be may have gap the contact points will be deformed in that case there are we should consider the several losses. One is that at that contacts when this is moving on that earlier we have examined that this is having both rolling as well as friction so sliding rolling and sliding. So, if we consider the combined friction there definitely there will be one pressure loss and also this what the length we are considering ideally that may also not exactly because the contact has now deformed. So, length is changing due to that there will be variations. Now, let us consider that there is some interference fit to reduce the gaps etcetera in that case due to that interference fits another additional torque will be required which will not be available at the output shaft apart from that there may have some error also considering this one can carefully express the output torque in this form. Now, we will see that what are these parameters L i is the ideal geometric length of a line joining two transition contact swing at any instant this one and then L i a effective length of line joining two transition contact points at any instant what is effective length and what is ideal length ideal length what we are calculating initially from the contact points without considering considering any deformation at the contact points. Now, if we consider the there is a deformations then contact points may shift if that can be calculated then we will consider that this is this will be definite the deviation of the ideal torque. So, that is there. Now, then what is MLH it is called load holding a resistive torque without fluid pressure this can be calculated or experimentally can be found it out if there is some interference even if we consider the ideal fit still there may have some frictional resistance to move this rotor. So, that is why we can find that initially to start that motor you need some pressure just to rotate without any load that you may consider the load holding torque that is that this means that we need a torque to start this motor without any load that is load holding torque on the other hand this load holding torque is again we can name that is a starting torque required. Now, this obviously this increases depending on the fittings if the fittings is too tight in that case this part will increase that can be estimated also this is found out normally by from the experiment. Next we consider the theoretical torque at starting pressure that means when it what we will say that we are giving a pressure, but still this is not moving. So, that pressure into the when pressure is working on this machines without moving that is the load holding part, but once it start moving what will happen due to this forces present there there will be a friction. So, considering this friction coefficient or the correction factor we have given the name to account torque loss due to the starting pressure. So, there will be another loss. So, that this means that actual available torque is this much the ideal torque then there is a variation in the this length. So, that part it will be slightly less than this actual torque then this load holding torque and then when it is starting there is a friction due to that there is another loss. So, this is the total loss. Now, this we have considered that there is no deviation in the eccentricity and if we consider further deviation in the eccentricity there will be further loss. So, this amount and this much amount can be can also be considered. So, this is a proposed model to estimate the available torque, but we may this measuring such this error or shift in centre distance is very difficult. So, this we may neglect or in other words even if possible if we can measure or we can estimate that then whatever additional loss that can be attributed to this one. Now, the instantaneous torque efficiency now we can this is the ideal torque and this is the output torque. So, this may be considered as a efficiency of such again for force equilibrium. So, this each chamber force and this efficiency must be equal to this ideal force at the contacts offered by this is the resistive force this is offered by the elastic deformation of the body. So, we can equilibrium in this way. Now, if we consider this is due to the ideal pressure then this factor is 1 and then we will find this force is equal to the pressure force, but actually we will find that whatever force is there this is more than the pressure force. Now, local deformation occurs at contacts initially due to interference speed f n e and then due to fluid pressure. Therefore, it offers the normal force f n which is expressed as follows f n is equal to f h n and f p n f h n a and f p n are the reaction forces due to the contact deformations for interference speed this is for interference speed and then fluid pressure respectively. Say for example, there is no fluid pressure let us consider. So, we do not need or in other words if we consider that there is no torque output torque is required. So, at 0 pressure ideally just flow is given it should be able to rotate, but what we will find that it requires some amount of torque because there is a interference speed. So, this means that there is already some different contacts are different and due to that the force h n is there. Now, what we do we add fluid pressure because the output torque is there. So, therefore, we should consider at each contacts there are two forces acting originally due to the interference and then due to the pressure. If there is no interference we can consider this part is 0 and normal force equal to due to the pressure. Now, with ideal size of rotor stator gaps occur at few contacts which separate chambers in expansion mode that is chambers with high pressure and even at active contacts separating low pressure chamber from high pressure chamber. Now, here I would like to mention that we are trying to find out the forces and each and every contact. Then we have considered that apparently this one we may consider that this line which is separating high pressure, low pressure then this is a beam. Now, this beam is supported by how many supports are there at least this will be the number of chambers divided by 2 number of chambers plus 1 divided by 2 either this or minus 1 divided by 2 it has to be this is for the odd number of chambers we are considering odd number of chambers. So, by that way say for example, in case of this 7 chamber machines this will be either 3 or 4. Now, in a beam there are 4 supports or 3 supports. So, this will be statically indeterminate problem. Now, also if you look into this the support and their direction of force to find out the direction of force to find out the direction of force what we can do or we can join the instantaneous centre of rotation to the centre of the roller or centre of the crew nodes of the envelope. So, we are getting the direction of the force direction of the support, but if we look into the direction of the support these are not parallel or not perpendicular to the beam what we have considered this is at angle. So, the problem to find out this the loads is not an easy task we have to consider all the directions. Now, again looking into the direction of the force we may find that in some supports some supports are not taking the load at all and as well we will also see that a gap is generated. Now, this gap say this is the high pressure side so definitely beam supports are in the low pressure sides and these two are critical and we may find at some instances they are a gap is generated. Once the gap is generated you will find there will be the leakage. So, estimating such leakage is essential to improve the performance of such motor. Also what we the valve is very adjacent to these. So, they are also the possibility of side leakage like this here one is leakage through this contacts another is the side leakage from this valve ports considering all such things we can have a redistributed pressure particularly where this capillary passage is there we can have a distributed pressure over this chamber and that distributed pressure if you put on that we will find a different ports. However, depending on the pre deformation due to the interference speed of star and ring the gap may not occur at all for a reasonably high operating pressures. What we can do we can make this as an interference speed this is basically such machines are called form closed that means even if without any force there will be all contacts all seven contacts in this case without any force and geometrically that for contacts will be maintained. Now, if we put the interference speed interference speeds means actually at some point we will describe that this rollers are over size as well as the star are over size. So, in that case what will happen each and every contact should assembly is difficult, but that is done with some technique heating one element and cooling the other element that assembly is possible, but once it is assembled then there is whatever may be the small deformations will be there. Now, with the increase in pressure that deformation will gradually decrease and at one point with the higher pressure definitely there will be gap, but we can design such machines that up to the working pressure there will be no gap at the contacts. Only disadvantage of such machines will be there at starting you need a starting torque higher starting torque, but once it reaches at its working zone you are not require no leakage as their efficiency will be higher although some initial torque were required, but you may find that overall efficiency is more or overall performance at least better than the ordinary I mean without interference speed machines. As the material of star and ring are usually still it may be assumed that they have same Poisson ratio and modulus of elasticity and then we can now we can consider the deformation at a contact. This is along the normal directions that means in this directions this will be the deformation so this expression will give us this deformation if the force are known here we do not know how much is the deformation how much is the force we will we are trying to find out the force at each and every contacts. Now, a n is the bandwidth half bandwidth which is given by this formula this is from Hurgian contacts stress theory so you can this is perhaps known to you we have only written in this form here this is the contact radius of the star and this is the contact radius of the ring, but you should remember this plus sign means both are concave. Now, if one of that but if you look into the star this is having convex as well as concave when this is a concave then this there will be a minus sign minus plus sign so you have to take care of that part. Now, what is this one h a h a is a depth after which this deformation occurs this is a complex things, but this we have to assume for such machines what might be this depth h is average compliance depth in this case we have consider this depth is up to the centre of the roller so this is equal to r m maximum but this is an arbitrary however if you consider this is half of that or double of that you will find this overall contribution to this will be negligibly small. So, it is a reasonably good to assume this h a is equal to r m so in all calculations we consider this is equal to r m this radius already I have explained to you radius of curvature. Now, for the dimensionless analysis this formula is further simplified which is given by this developed by Cornell and this can be written in this form. So, this I have given this article as a reference one can read to how this was derived once we reach here then we can non dimensionalize it is like that. Now, earlier when we are non dimensionalizing a dimension we are simply dividing that one by the radius of the base circle or the describing circle of the ring here that is r 0 we are considering this radius r 0 of the biggest circle here it is a green circle whereas when we are trying to non dimensionaling this force what we do we consider this force normal force divided by b that means this is coming per width and then divided by del p i which is coming as a per unit pressure and then r 0 is this radius radius of the biggest circle this look into this unit this is area and this is pressure so this must be also force. So, this becomes a non dimensionalize that means once we calculate this deformations or force for a machines considering this approach then for actual pressure and actual width we can find out what will be the actual deformation or actual force and beauty of using such non dimensional analysis is that you can analyze the machines for a particular geometry and then you can design you can consider the pressure actual width flow rate everything later to give the physical size of this machines keeping the geometric relation same. Now, this is the deformations in the same way we can express in the non dimensional form. Now, the contact deformation on star at the active contracts nth loaf of ring can be expressed this is actually this is in the vector form. So, we can know not it not in the vector form we would say that this is this what we are doing the actual deformations total deformation from there we are trying to find out what is the deformation in the normal directions we have considered any deformations at any directions then by this multiplication we are finding out what is the magnitude of deformation along the normal line. So, for that we need this operations and then also this actual area of the contact can be find out because we have calculated the half bandwidth. So, total bandwidth will be this much and b is the width of this star or ring. So, this we get actual area. Now, then finally we can express this formula the f n non dimensional is equal to 0.44 into delta n look at this this is not for the both star and ring material as a steel we have considered that. So, Poisson ratio is around 0.3 with that we get this relations this is very simple relations any force in the normal direction is equal to 0.44 times of the deformations. So, this analysis become easy if the calculation of contact deformation forces etcetera caused due to the interference feet or oversize star and ring it is assumed that excess size is different in the direction of the normal to active contacts that is in the direction of line joining the instantaneous centre of rotation to the centre of low or roller in ring now here I would like to mention you see if you consider a simple cylinder and a hole and cylindrical body perfectly round and they are in interference feet you may consider deformations over the contraction of the cylinder is uniform over the periphery expansion of the cylinder is also deformed uniformly over the periphery. In this case we we had to depend I mean such interference is taken care by few contacts only. So, most likely it is not uniformly distributed and if you think if you try to visualize there is a possibility of that unstable conditions that means for such a for interference feet such interference feet ultimately you will find this star will try to take a stable position what is that stable position you will find one of the chamber will be either in the outer dead centre or what of dead centre here you can say this is at the outer dead centre. So, this is one stable conditions next another next stable condition will be this one of these two chamber will be inner dead centre. So, which is precisely can be found out by the pi divided by z into z minus 1. So, every of these two chamber will be after that angle this will be in the stable conditions or in other words you will find this machine if you leave this machine it will try to go to that position for its stability. Now, in other conditions suppose if you hold that shaft at the other conditions what will be the situation in the machines this machine due to the pressure it is giving a stable torque you will find apart from that there is some unbalance amount within this machines that means to hold the shaft at that particular position you need some unbalance torque although the magnitude is may not be very high, but this unbalance torque is there. So, in the force analysis definitely such contact forces giving this unbalance torque you will find out. So, while you are calculating automatically this should be should also be taken care of. So, here I have shown that the equation using equation 9 and 10 one can try to find out the forces, but this we have to follow a particular technique that how we can find out this forces. Let F h and b the reaction force due to the contact deformations for interference at nth low then we can have that summation of all such forces due to the interference at no pressure must be equal to 0. So, we must satisfy that condition to find out this force and then we can consider this load hold holding torque must be equal to that that force into the coefficient of friction into this R n in that case to calculate this R n we have to consider this contacts point to this distance, because here this is the normal force. So, this force is in this transverse directions and that multiplied into R n will give the load holding torque. You see the coefficient of combined rolling and sliding friction at contacts. This means that to rotate the shaft even there is no fluid pressure the required torque is m L h. Specularly for such geometric form closed machine this summation of forces may not become 0 in all the angular position of shaft rotation and the rotor is virtually floating as the rotor is virtually floating. The summation will become minimum floating rotor will assume a comfortable position by deviating from its ideal geometric positions which I have explained. It will actually we will try to take a position for which one of the chamber is either at the top dead center or the inner dead center or outer dead center or the inner dead one is outer one is inner one is a top dead center one is bottom dead center whatever name you can give it to this. It is better to give this is outer dead center and this is inner dead center. We have also verified this in numerically and that can be shown. Now, in calculating this forces f p n part that is the force due to pressure. First of all an arbitrary small deflection delta d n is considered in the dimension numerical competitions. We will consider any arbitrary value small deformation in opposite directions of the resultant applied force. That means suppose this is the direction of the force. We have considered these two points say shaft has rotated by a small angle for which these two are the critical contact points. So, we know these lines we know this direction we consider the transverse directions of this. Then we consider deformations are taking place in this directions. That means whatever deformation is there deformation is taking in this directions which is perpendicular to this first we consider.  Let us take 0.01 is the deformations numerical value. Now, what is there due to these deformations we can find out the component along the normal directions. What will be the deformation at these points? Amount of this deformation then from there we can calculate what might be the contact forces there. So, we can find out that resultant forces there. Now, we consider that resultant force. So, we have considered only in this directions. Now, let us consider that these deformations we are rotating. Rotating means may be only pi angle about this center. We are considering these deformations we have rotated. For all such positions we will find these forces. We consider which is the minimum force for which conditions for the same not one deformations for which direction of the deformations the summation of force is minimum. Actually that is that would be the directions of this I mean deformations because there is no meaning that it will be the higher side. It will be always in the lower resistive path lower sides. So, we find out first that positions. Once we find out that positions we then that definitely not in the directions of the load this is in the resultant in the some other directions. Now, the component of that force that summation of this resistive force due to the deformations is contributing towards the torque. But the other component which is in the transfer bed directions of that force that definitely generating an unbalanced torque of this motor and you will in such calculation you will find when one chamber in bottom dead center or at the top dead center this unbalanced force is 0. So, after calculating such this force now if we would like to quantify suppose we have a particular pressure operating at a particular pressure we know other dimensions then by multiplying this unit deformations for the given deflections we can find out what will be the actual deformation what will be the actual force what will be the actual torque what will be the actual unbalanced torque. So, this is the same what I have described it is written here and for dimensional analysis the following waiver formula same approach is followed when a particular model of known dimension in analyze. Now, what I have done in a particular case I have taken later for the numerical calculations one can find that non dimensional analyze and the dimensional analyze using such formula and if you calculate that there will be definitely some deviations. Now, we have calculated few such machines now in this in such machines if you look says for example, set one that is one machine dimensions in that case you can see this is the dimension. Now, this is you can find that plus some value what does it mean actually this is a coral thickness to thickness this if you use a simple caliper you will find that these two there will be some portion of the curvature which will be the tangent of which will be parallel. So, we measure this distance now for an ideal case whatever the distance that we consider the ideal dimensions now if we increase this dimensions by this much only this is a practical case we have taken this much then this certainly this is an interference bit and what we find for such machine we get this is the amount of torque we can find out we can have out of this machine this is again Newton meter per 10 millimeter of width per mega Pascal this will be the output torque. So, if you suppose you have 15 millimeter. So, simply you multiply with 1.5 and pressure say another 15. So, 1.5 into 15 into this this will be the output torque of such machine ideal output torque if you consider the second machine in that case this is slightly loose bit actually I would say if you consider a machine without any interference it should have some clearance. So, this machine is without an interference whereas, if you come to this machines this is giving this is the torque this can be calculated the formula we have proposed. Now here is just to show the dimensions different dimensions and then you can see these are the contact forces directions are shown then in model calculations the deflection at active contact without fluid pressures may occur due to the various reasons. For an example in a set star and ring may be over cut the roller or low radius in star may be less than the ideal geometric size and the star is also cut with an over size cutter but the roller placed at the same pitch circle with lower radius this means that when we call this is an interference machine we can create such interference by several means one is that keep all the rollers dimension everything ideal simply you increase the size of this. So, this is one way of interference another is that keep this is intact just you reduce the roller radius keep the roller size also same only the pitch circle on which the roller is placed just to reduce that one. But you have to remember the way you have created this interference in your geometric calculation you have to consider that properly to find out the deformation due to this interference. So, we should know that how it is the interference is created. So, this is described here the projection of distance between two points on the normal at the ideal contact point give the deflections or gap at the contact points. The forces are calculated and the result resultant torque required to rotate the star about the shaft axis is calculated using equation 14 which we have described earlier. Now, the resultant deviation of star center from its ideal geometric position is assumed arbitrarily then considering an infinitely small circular zone around the ideal point the actual center is shifted to verify the possible minimum unbalanced load conditions which I have described. And in that way calculation is done and then we can find out at no pressure if there is any torque is required due to the interference pitch. We can have then there is one constant torque load holding torque average and another unbalanced torque in this calculation geometric and kinematics of the rotor and star are to be considered we have to consider as I told this load holding torque would help in breaking when ill-made flow motor is stopped with outlet is blocked. So, in some cases this is required in other cases it is not required. So, for the particular requirement knowing the particular requirement if we want to design a machines then we have to calculate or we have to follow such calculations. So, I have described here definitely the starting pressure would be more in such motor with interference pitch star and ring. Now, I have shown the result also in that result what we find we have calculated in both way and we have considering this geometry and in that case what we find this is the load holding torque you can see this is a newton meter very small amount of torque, but there is as well unbalanced torque. This means here you can see this is the z pi divided by z into z minus at that point you can find that no unbalanced torque is there whereas, if you want to keep machine at that positions you will find that some unbalanced torque is of this much will be required and again this is varying in negative and positive directions for one directions you will find that need to torque and other positions is automatically this is coming back to its positions. Now, another interesting point is that this is the dimension analysis and this is non dimension analysis you will find there is a little difference this amount is small in that I would say little otherwise comparison to this small you will find the unbalanced force is coming more here. You see it is also interesting to note that if we if we vary this dimensions it has been seen for some values this unbalanced torque is also minimum as well as this is almost without much peak values. So, those are very interesting. Actually better machines. So, this already we have described that is you will try to assume always in such angles. Now, another interesting point which I have mentioned that this non dimensional approach is more conservative. This means that if we calculate in this way it will show always more stress value etcetera. So, non dimensional approach in that way we will be always safe side in the design not only this helps us because the beauty of using non dimensional analysis is that we can for optimization we can optimize the machine then we can finalize the actual dimensions. But in that process it will be over designed, but it no matter this will always give us a safe design. Now also if we consider the deformations at different contacts because we have to why we are estimating such torque and etcetera we have already calculated the deformations and as we find that there is also gap. These contacts this is a contact one that is a roller one, this is roller two, this is roller four, this is roller three and for such angle of rotations and we find that sometimes this is from deformation to gap for different rollers. And if we look into this, this is the dimensional approach, this is the non dimensional approach, but mind it this non dimensional approach after that we have multiplied this factors to give to find out the actual dimensions. Now this is for the other contacts, this is there are differences but it is more or less similar. Now this is as you see this is the unbalanced force, this is sometimes it is quite high of course this is with respect to some pressure we have considered this is not mentioned here, but you as you can see this both the approach giving more or less same value, but what we find this with the waivers approach this is non dimensional approach this forces as more, but actual force may be less. Now this is I would say that if experimentally experimentally is carried out then what we have tried to find out that whether this approach is correct or not. Now as you can see this is the predicted typical cycle, this is the torque cycle it is giving the test result as you see this is obviously it is very difficult to measure the actual test it is at random it is coming like this. So test result typical sample this is the sample and the actual test record is this one, this only one sample we have matching with this and here actual is like this. Obviously the theoretical curve will not match with that, but it is giving more or less similar trend and it can be fairly accurately we can estimate what will be the torque etcetera of such machines. Now this is using the FEM technique and this is for this is the value and this pressure as you can see this 15 mega Pascal and this is the physical size this will give as the physical size and at 15 mega Pascal we may find that this are the gaps are generated and this as you see this is very critical at that moment this gap is being generated. This gap of course there is no harm because both are in high pressure zone. So there will be no leakage, but this amount of gap is generated there only dangerous part is there, but it is again not always momentarily it will be there. Now this also can be realized from this machines. Now this is obviously not an orbit motor, but this is an zero torque machines. In that zero torque machines this is recently I visited technical university of Roslov. They are called as FEM. They are conducting such experiment using the steel rotors and stator, but this is a very thick some sort of glass they are using for the cover and there with the photography they have found this. Of course in this figure you can see only the machines I will show you another one where you can realize the you can see suddenly you are looking at this bubble what is happening if you look into this when this is changing is phase from high pressure to low pressure zone. This bubbles is definitely where the leakage is occurring that means the gap is occurring. So theoretically what I have tried to prove practically also this is happening. This is a good example for interchangeable leakage. You can see this once again this looking into bubbles means this at the critical contacts there is gap. Critical contacts mean when it is separating high pressure zone to low pressure zone and this is momentarily theoretically it is matching with my theoretical calculations whereas it is the those who have conducted such experiments they have not yet calculated such things. They are only experimentally observing. So these are the reference if you can go through such papers you can find out say for example this paper where I will find that Weber approach and the Hurzian approach how it is simplified and non dimensionalized here this prediction of the starting torque etcetera is shown and this is the you can say this is the first paper who calculated stresses for the zero torque pump mainly but he proposed this formulation part initially. However I personally also calculated such stresses in more rigorous way and in dimensionless form which I have described. So thank you very much for listening.


Hello everyone, I'm Sean Boyd here at Cal-O-E-S headquarters in Mather, California. We have some good news to report. 150 fires have been contained since Sunday. Unfortunately though, the fatality count has gone up to 41. And of course the battle continues. We will not cease to continue battling these wildfires. Coordinating leadership have traveled to the affected areas several times and they continue to do so again today. So we caught up with each of those leaders today before they left to survey the damage. Well, let me just start off by saying we are in the eighth day of this catastrophic fire situation and we are not slowing down. We are still all hands on deck. In fact, we have additional resources pouring into California and we are in the process of effectively putting those resources to work, whether they're backfilling to give the crews on the line a break or we are putting them into a staging in preparation for anything else that could break in the coming days. And while all of that is on the radar, the firefight is beginning to turn the corner thanks to a couple of major factors. Obviously the winds have died down. We had significant winds predicted over the weekend. Some of those surfaced in Northern California, created some increase in intensity on the nuns fire but overall the winds have diminished and that has allowed firefighters to get in on the fire line, get air tankers aircraft over the fires. I can tell you today all 18 of the federal aircraft in the country, the Forest Service aircraft are committed to California. We'll move resources throughout California up and down the state, either north to south or the state will bring in state to state or we'll bring in federal crews from across any of the federal agencies to help wherever we need them. So there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes, both predicting and then responding once we have a start. Also turning the corner, the move from response to recovery. The firefighters have done an unbelievable job of managing this event. And now as we start to transition to recovery our job is to coordinate all the federal agencies to support state and local governments in helping individuals affected by this disaster. The National Guard continues to be involved in both fire suppression activities as well as consequence management and by consequence management we really mean helping people get back to getting their lives back to normal. We appreciate the support of all the law enforcement agencies, the local law enforcement agencies and our federal partners and we very much appreciate the public's patience and just want the public to understand that everybody here throughout the state is working on their behalf to help them get through this devastation. Alright so here's a look at the current updated numbers as of right now. As I mentioned, unfortunately we've added one fatality to the total numbers, that totaling now 41. Right now we have nearly 40,000 folks evacuated with 5,700 plus structures destroyed and an updated number of 213,000 acres have been burned. And that of course comes from those 14 large wildfires burning throughout here in Northern California. We will update you on all of these numbers throughout the day. If you go and check out our website oesnews.com and caloes.ca.gov all of the latest information will be there as well as the information that you need to know about getting disaster assistance. You can call this number, this is a FEMA hotline number<PHONE_NUMBER>. That's 800-621-FEMA, F-E-M-A, but the best place to go to get your disaster assistance ball rolling is disasterassistance.gov. That is also a FEMA website. That is again disasterassistance.gov. I'm Sean Boyd here at Caloas headquarters in Rancho Cordova, Sacramento, California. I'm Matt Mayther, we'll see you soon.


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Yola. What's up? Here a face you also have seen before but it's not Carrie. It's Noel Wiggins. Oh Hi didn't see you there. I've been wanting to do that my entire life by the way I'm so on to do that. Oh, what is up everybody? I don't know. Well, thank you for having me So thank you for being for having me on I have notes because I have some notes. He has some notes It's true. This is can in fact Noel if you sleep paper in loosely paper You will see more frequently of this upcoming month, but I do want to show you guys a face You haven't seen here before but he's handsome. It's George Penga Oh Not the reason why we're definitely on time George was the most punctual out of all of us, but it's okay for everyone in chat's going for perfect Thanks George for joining us and onto our next guest. You have seen him before and he's just as handsome. It's Joshua Kazemi He's back Real quick isa I I'm gonna have to interrupt you for a second because I just want to say I am loving your hair right now You were you were moving around and I was like, yo, what are you what type of product is in a I was like, yo It's there's so much volume. I was like, I'm loving that hair It was like one of those like the doll sass soon commercials at one moment. I was like, yo, I see you.  There's like a the fact that you're on camera. You can still see that like that healthy shine So many nutrients like I'm I'm absent of all of it. I have none of those nutrients I Think most of in case you guys don't know most of my interactions with Noel is Noel will compliment me And I'll tell him to be quiet I have so many compliments for easter like trust me and I hate it. No, I don't hate it He makes me feel special, but I hate it But yeah, hello, welcome guys I have no It's Some new faces welcome George Hello, I Was surprised to be here. I Think I got asked because they were like We need somebody who likes animation and It's available at this specific time of day That's exactly how the conversation Those are the exact words I was like, hey, dude, you like You like being available The hundred the you know hundreds of people that work at Rooster Teeth you put the Venn diagram. It's like George right there But I'm happy to be here. Is that theme song always the theme song I've watched a couple of Yo, it is off the chain Is that the best thing song in the company I I'll say this contrary to popular belief. I do not know how to freestyle, but that beat makes me Yes, it makes me believe I'm literally bought the spit bars the moment like oh But then I show up and I'm like no no, well, I gotta you gotta remember your limits, bro You're gonna have to write it down Unlock some ability in your brain Maybe this is what if In front of the chat, this is this is your spark. No, well, this is it But just know that if I do freestyle just know it's it's it's written It'll never be real it'll never be off the dome not like that They just memorize all their yeah, the freestyle part is the beat you do it on not the actual words you're saying I Love how they have their phone nowadays, and they're just like rapping wall still on I think I saw like doja cat do that one so under whatever like live freestyles before and the before times and I was just like Okay, I See I see George, thank you for being on thank you Josh. Thank you for being on easy Thank you for for having me as a co-host. No, I was the co-host now Do my best. I will I will serve you. Well I always get them direction wrong whatever I know right can never oh I pointed in the right direction. Oh good job. No, well Yeah, that's why As if it was gonna like change up on you Now Who knows Mike might do some tricks later? Just to get on your goose I did want to highlight that George is new and I think it's only fair to talk about you George Could you tell us what you do? Could you tell us what you do at Rooster Teeth and What your day-to-day is like Sure, so my name is George Panga. I am the marketing coordinator here at Rooster Teeth Productions Which means basically means that any Anytime information needs to be transported or assets needs to be transported or whatever between the departments at Rooster Teeth It is my job as well as you know My boss and my boss's boss to make sure that gets to whomever it needs to get to that's my primary job When I first got hired at Rooster Teeth Two years ago now I was in events and my job was to just make RTX go and I was I called myself the Grand Poob of the Guardians They don't know I called them that but I did So I was in charge of all of our guardians we love them and day to day lately has been a lot of stuff for Black Heritage Month actually it's a lot of Coordinating different conversations getting new assets made getting some fun stuff that we have Announced could be announcing a little bit later this month coming up So I can't tell you too much about my day-to-day right now, but generally it's not too bad. It's a lot of meetings and slacks Yeah, it's like meetings and slacks about meetings about slacks Do you do you miss being in the office? I think mostly the answer is yes But I'd like to hear from your mouth if the answer is yes. Yes 100% absolutely I went so I went from The office to the apartment that my roommate and I my roommate Tim who actually met the Rooster Teeth We went to a house because in the apartment I worked at a a giant 10-foot like a These are card tables like the one used for like for beer pong is what I usually for most Oh my god Yeah, so I had my tiny bedroom and a 10-foot table that went from basically wall-to-wall and I had a camping chair And I would just sit there and I sat there and that's how I worked just like this for for four months and then we moved into the house and got a real desk and real chair and The only thing that I realized that entire process is man. I missed the office I'm imagining you like at the table and then like you're in The middle but then on the sides you still have like the red solo cup Rand randos are like playing like beer pong At the beginning of quarantine At the beginning of quarantine I set up the laptop on the end of one table and then I would call friends on weekend Just like FaceTime or whatever and I would go I would go spontaneous beer pong And I would have the camera would be aimed at the other side of the table and I would just be throwing balls Just to see who would play I got it. I got I got like three or four people to play along So personal question as well, uh, what animation do you like George? I am Very all over the place in terms of the animation I like but I will say that I've recently discovered because again, I What is this cord? So my favorite my favorite animated Property is the boondocks My second favorite is Cowboy bebop which was the first anime like a lot of people that I was introduced to I'm very much a music person in my heart if If your music is good, I can forgive a lot of things And so so somebody was like, hey, uh, there's this anime. I know you say you don't like anime, but There's this one that has a lot of really cool jazz in it And so I was like, all right So the jazz drew me in and then I fell in love with cowboy bebop and then a friend of mine Avery who knew I loved cowboy bebop introduced me to Samurai shampoo, which I realized full circle influenced the boondocks, which really just explains why I like So does that mean you also like uh lo-fi hip-hop is oh, yeah, do you like to do you like to study? I feel like with a cat right here Yeah, yeah, I feel like if I'm listening to hip-hop and I don't feel like I either need to think about The most complicated things in the world or take a nap Then it's not hip-hop That I want to listen to Man cow cowboy bebop. Yeah, just like when you said like it did the same for me where It it just kind of hit at the right age You know like I was trying to like watch cartoon at night and all that stuff And you know, like you had the whole like a adult swim situation But yeah, cowboy bebop to me some of the best music Really probably like The anime itself. I'm just going all over the place because like in my head. I just think so much of cowboy bebop I would say the best thing outside of the music of cowboy bebop is the fact that it ends Yes, it has a definite ending and when that ending hits Oh, it hits you right in the feel bad and then like it's this weird like cathartic feeling of you're like it ended I don't know how I feel about myself. What's happening in life. What do I do? But it's such a great show. I love anime, but some some certain animes One piece just kind of keep going and it's like They they just go so long that like I don't even want to watch it because I'm wondering, you know Do I have 400 years left in my life? I don't know. I don't know So like cowboy bebop, what is it 24 26 episodes one of the two and it just ends and it's such a good ending Oh, I love it. You you're in quarantine now.  That's pretty good Um, do you oh, I do have a general question. Do you guys prefer the music for cowboy bebop or or samurai tabloon? Or is it in apples and oranges situation for apples and oranges? You're asking me if I like rapper jazz better like that's That's hard Yeah, okay. Yeah, we're on the same page. We're on the same page some of that music. Oh, it's too. It's so classic Yeah See, I think you already know where I'm going I didn't have to finish I just had to finish that little that little bar and you already knew I don't even know I You don't like it's it's one of those things to where like I don't speak Japanese But I will certainly try and then with that song you're just like I I'm impressed You just got to make the general sounds get you just got to get there a little bit, you know, no one's asking I don't think you said anything, but it sounded good Right, it sounded right. I think by the end of this episode we can get you to freestyle. That was pretty close Hey, hey, well, you know, we'll see how this We'll see how it works out That's the goal. That's the goal. I'm I'm officially in my mind. I'm just saying right now get Noel to freestyle by the end of the month and then We'll get like the whole audience here as in like the everyone every guess that we got on we'll like put them We'll put everyone in a room and then I don't know why I just imagine no one the last I have no to the month coming up off the dome and just like Oh I have pyrotechnics in the back. I got a whole light show. Oh, that would be just great screen. No, I'll just great screen I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready for any of this. This is all off the dome. Hold on. Let me activate this firework I have I have one line for you that you have to use. I just thought about it. Oh, please Oh off the dome. So I don't wow Wow, that's that's my I'm giving you that one I see George. Are you dude? Are you a ringer bro? Do you ghost ride? I'm giving you that I mean if you if you use that line, then yes, I do ghost, right? If I if I tossed you about a if I tossed you a cool George Washington, um Which is a one dollar bill How uh, how much would you write and then if and then if you wrote a lot George Washington has a twin brother Of George Washington I really thought I'll hit you with the two dollars. I really thought you were gonna say how about some cool ranch Doritos in all Speaking speaking of like random thought about cool ranch Doritos as a kid My entire life. I thought it was called cooler ranch I can believe that I could I don't know why I don't know why I I I'm I'm on your side on this one Noel because I probably have said that once or twice in my lifetime Cooler ranch. I could have swore it was cooler ranch at one point and then and then and then the mandela effect hit us and then Only I remember that that's my story.  Oh my god No, that's too many layers. Did you sleep that night George? Do I sleep any night Issa? I got my answer Open I like almost don't want to go to our topic sheet because I just like talking with you guys Um just to be topical Even before we hit some stuff Uh, a couple of things that came up During this last week shout out of course to our very frequent special guest aired win for bringing this up in our groups like um We got a pacific rim the black which is a new animated series in the pacific rim Franchise uh, that'll be released on netflix March 4th and it is 3d animation. It is done by the same studio that did all that other 3d anime like agin Godzilla the 3d Godzilla animated movie and I know there's more and I know I've watched a few or I know of them I just can't remember off the dome. I'm gonna use that term now. Thanks guys So that's neat uh for continuing the pacific rim franchise um Do you guys do you guys follow? Did you watch the second pacific rim actually because I did it? I just watched the first one. Yeah, I just watched the first one Yeah, I mean because it gets more it was a it was the the appropriate evolution because it was going anime anyway So like we might as well get you know, like the first pacific rim You know, it gave you that vibe of like the robots move like you would imagine a robot wood where everything feels slower Because they're giants and for some reason giants all move is is time different for for giants. I don't know Maybe gravity. It's different. So then that means I don't know anyway Mandela effect is the Mandela effect of that. You can talk about space sometimes. Anyway, um But when you got to the second pacific rim the robot man, you got like samurai looking robots You got robots with like a mace and they're just moving like Gundams at this point, which I'm all about I'm all about That's what it is. Yeah, you don't have to worry about the story You don't have to worry about like who is it is it uh my man John Boyega is in the second one right and he plays the son of the What is it? We're taking back the apocalypse. I don't know that was my Idris Elba impression And I think I got very did you say we're taking back the apocalypse? Is that what the lion is? I don't know. We're canceling the apocalypse. We're canceling that makes way more sense. Yeah I thought we were just taking it back We're co-opting it We're taking it and we're just putting it right here Can you imagine can you imagine if he was really like giving that speech that that speech that was supposed to like Get the troops going everyone know they're about to die and they're like, yo We need the most motivational speech ever and he's like we're taking back the apocalypse and everyone's just like Wait, does that make any sense to y'all? I don't know. He was doing so good I was ready to die until he said that sentence that didn't make any sense You know, it's like the one line he's been thinking about He's been thinking about that one line for months If you need me It's like you've been thinking about that one line for months. That's how he started the speech Like that was the line he came up with first and then he worked the speech bachelors and messed up messed up the line at the end Well, that's how you do it You got to write the body of your of your essay first and then and then you can do the conclusion and in the intro And you know you gotta get to the one line for your freestyle That's true. That's you're jumping off point.  I think so Off the dome is going to be the title of my new podcast where I literally just Whatever comes to my brain immediately and I don't George I have no monies for you, but I just greenlit that. Yes. I just Good one. Let's let's do it. Who do I who here can improve? We're doing it. It's live And so that means whatever we say here. Yeah, it's on like that means whatever we say here has to happen I have a lot of broadcast ideas that nobody wants to do I'll green light all of them with my mr. Washington and his twin brother mr. Washington I like twins Is that like a buck 25 or We'll see how that works That's a good point. That's a good point. We'll see how inflation works out after after this year Oh Wait, hold on. I see something in the chat here. Hold on from from bruno mp torres 1994 cooler wrench doritos are introduced now the flavor is simply, you know, see look at that Bam take that mandela. Take that. No, I'll allegedly believe it Allegedly, we should just call it. That's a great idea. George. We should call it that from now on the allegedly mandela The allegedly mandela One more topical thing I'd also like to mention as well So, I don't know if you guys know this comic artist adam alas Not to be confused with the an adam alas that we may have known already But comic artist specifically adam alas blows up Short short film filmmakers of keratin for plagiarizing his idea Um, I don't know if you've seen this. It's like a long twitter thread, but the comic maker basically the Let me try to summarize it. He made a comic where This guy clipped his nails and would bury it and then he comes back one day and it turns out there's like another human in this Place where he buried his nails. I don't exactly know the concept or if there's like a fuller story behind this But one of the things that the filmmakers mentioned even is that they took direct inspiration from his comic Only they didn't pay him or credit him um, they even say it in a lot of like different articles and tried to get him to like, uh, promote, uh, the Film but the comic artist himself did not actually endorse it and said that he wasn't Into this idea unless I think correct me if I'm wrong unless he was being paid in some way or compensated um But this came up and it's definitely it was making waves on twitter and if only I wanted to bring it up If only because it's definitely an interesting Mmm line or boundary of like The idea of homage influence copyright and we're all creative people So I'm sure we have different opinions about like this this kind of thing So have you guys heard of this until? So I'm just kind of curious like how does something Because it feels like this isn't going to be the only time it's going to happen But like how do things get so far into like I'm just blown away that it gets so far into the production That yeah, you know after the film is made like that means pre-production happened They had conversations.  That'd be kind of dope. That's the crazy part like the entire thing There's levels of crazy to this, but it's like all right first. I'm gonna take your idea and then I'm gonna do your idea And then when my when your idea is big because I did it. I'm gonna make you promote it That's the entire plan I I do want to mention to chat a c-elect and hodge lit. Thank you very much They mentioned that the origin of the comic the comic artist said it was about his rebirth after leaving buzzfeed And moving on with his career. So, you know the classic like why I left buzzfeed kind of people I say it's also personal. Yeah, it's personal on top of that very yeah Yeah, and um one of the things that uh adam calls out is like it's it's pretty much shot for shot And they weren't ever really clear about where the inspiration came from so it seems like they're trying to hide it So it's It's it's a kind of messed up. What's the name of the movie? Uh Keratin Oh, I Yeah, I don't know Chad help because Chad help if the name of the comic is keratin Oh, yeah Audacious, yeah, basically the audacity Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely those those fine lines between like homage and Yeah inspiration and all that but I think anybody who again I this is just from what I've been told in this in this Podcast and I haven't done any further looking into it, but based off of just that I feel like it's pretty obvious. It's not an homage at that point. You're just right.  I didn't steal your stuff I just made an homage to your house I do I do feel like to to a certain extent I believe that like There's nothing totally new under the sun like We've we've told a lot of stories again and again And what's important is like how you tell it and your specific kind of voice and vision for it Yeah, like I when I was reading up on this story I heard I read the premise and I thought well I've seen something like that before like scrubs did a very similar like bit where It's it's definitely different where turk varies a testicle and then a clone of turk pops up and and and like attacks him And it's in a fantasy But the thing that got me was that is that it's the it's the shot for shot Like when you see the two shots next to each other the compositions are identical and it seems like Even by that alone the tone is similar and so it's it's more than just like taking any idea It's like they took his idea and his execution and it's it's one step further than just like it seems one step further than just homage to me Mmm Wow, I'm wondering if they like had like storyboards and then like yeah They drew their own they drew their own for like for the rest of the film But then like occasional like this comic like will pop up in the storyboard and everyone's like what's this about? I don't know We got all the pieces to remake it. So might as well just use it I mean they could have just used his web comic and storyboards and they'd be like these are fantastic boards I love the color and it just pops up every once in a while in the storyboard Yeah, this is that that's that's messed up Uh, why would you ask them to promote it? I don't know off the dome I can't remember the entire concept off the dome I Want to do a mid-roll, but I just learned this information right now. So I'm throwing a curveball at everyone Jeff Bezos just announced that he's stepping down as CEO of amazon Gonna let that ruminate I I don't I don't know I just heard and I'm like, yeah I just read about that before we got on and I couldn't find out the why of it all like it's it's kind of his plan I think it's third quarter. He'll be out and he's they've named a replacement and everything But I don't know why he's leaving I mean like when you are officially like the richest man in the world Like at some point are you wanting to uh Use some of that money, I guess like you're trying to you know, like he's saved enough for his doomsday device And it's ready to just to just hit the ground running quarter four Yeah, yeah, I would I would be very impressed if like his next venture in life is I'm gonna try my hardest to use all of my money as quick Like I'm gonna try to use it and try to just like run out because I don't think it's Physically possible for him to run out of his money. Like he just has so much of it I just think them I don't even know like I forget like what the number was But it was just like one of those things to where like every second he was making thousands and thousands Oh, yeah, like dollars per second in a day And I'm like man like it's a challenge.  That's his new thing. Can I can I spend this money? I turn my life into blank check What a great movie I I remember back in the early 2000s everybody's talking about like yeah Bill Gates makes so much money that he could walk down a sidewalk And if he saw a hundred dollar bill it would cost him money to bend down and pick it up And that was in the early 2000s. So just imagine like how much money Jeff Bezos would have to find Just like sitting on the sidewalk for him to even think about going over there to get it See for me, it's a it's a it's a dime It's a like that's it like if I see a dime, I'm like, okay. All right. I'm interested But for him that I assume the man's got to be like, yo, how much is that? Is that a hundred thousand? Not not not worth I feel like I get bored of things and money and stuff at that point like Hey guys, did you did you know that 10 percent of one billion is 10 million dollars? Look at that. Look at that. No, sorry. That's one percent. It's one percent.  Yeah The perfect off the dome that's the that's the episode title same just so you know What is the cheapest thing sorry before we we jump off because again, this is just how my brain works What do you think is the least expensive thing Jeff Bezos does in a week? like Like obviously not the normal stuff like get up and take a shower although like his pressure could be like thousand dollar And his shower itself is yeah, so like what do you think is the cheapest thing Jeff Bezos does in a day? man Jeff Bezos to me This is pure speculation because I clearly know who Jeff Bezos is on a personal level. I feel like Jeff Bezos Bezos Bezos Bezos. I feel like dude eats probably the plainest oatmeal. Oh my god Like I'm talking like Even some of the packet ones, you know, like the peaches and cream one or something like that But I feel like he's that like I feel like he he he just in the morning. What do you eat? I'm eating oatmeal. Are you gonna put anything in it? No, I'm good. Oh my god Flavor, I don't need that in my life right now. Like I think that's probably the cheapest thing he does in a day Salt Tyler He's trying to choke himself like with salting cracker that math makes my stomach hurt just thinking about that amount of money Oh my god Hi dog Oh dog wants me to do mid-roll. I guess that's the cue Uh, it's mid-roll time, baby We want to do a quick mention that we're celebrating black heritage month. Uh, george hinted at it earlier We're highlighting voices in the black community. Oh with special streams like this friday We're having our first and last episode with tori and crawford. Yay. There'll be some familiar faces on there This is behind the scenes thing but I joked with no, well that I was invited to the barbecue or it's more like no Well said that so I'm gonna I'm gonna put that on no. Well, I was invited you get you get you get three plates You get three plates wrapped in foil Thank you, thank you no well and of course big shout out to our first members for Helping make all of us happen. Uh, if you're a first member you can get cool discounts at the store. See exclusive content Exclusive and you can participate in chat on everything. We'll call you out Join the game joined first I don't know where that came from but um, I like it a lot everyone in chat always says it whenever you mention like first members And I kind of love it. Yeah Maybe you know So, uh, I did ask if we could go a little longer because I did want to get to Something we wanted to talk about today, which was soul Uh, soul is the newest movie from Pixar that came out on christmas day. It is streaming On disney plus in roth america Um Oh, uh stab says chelsea flubbs spelling first and wrote first. So that's why it's first I got an answer thinking stabs Thank you. So, um soul uh is uh movie about a black jazz musician who dies and he's trying to get back to life via Crazy stuff that happens in the afterlife. It's kind of like the natural evolution after Pixar's inside out um, some fun mech chicks even though It uh was not available in theaters in north america. It made 83 million worldwide still pretty good um domestic streaming it was considered successful because there's a lot of minutes in that I Man, uh streaming metrics are always a little funky to me because how do you how do you define success? Yeah, you know that You know that life, uh, but overall, what did we think about soul? Yeah, I mean, let's start let's start with uh with with our guests here because I I can I can go on Definitely about mine, but like George, what were your thoughts my man because you would watch it recently, right? I did I watched it yesterday Nice, uh, I watched it yesterday and then I got a slide saying hey, you want to talk about soul today? I went Yeah Off the dome It was it was very unexpected in the sense that I didn't see any marketing for it I was just like scrolling through disney plus superboard because I'd watched wandavision and I just was like I need another disney fix And I went soul interesting clicked on it Thought it was like soul about music should have known because it's a Pixar movie It's about somebody dying But I was pleasant I thought the I thought the art was beautiful. I thought anytime they were in the uh In basically wherever they come up with their personalities and they had like the 2d line art with all the 3d I thought that was gorgeous. I love any any movie that makes me Not want to get into animation is a movie. I love and I'll explain why because I'll watch it and I'll go. Oh my god. There are incredibly talented people here that are deserving and should be doing this And I'm glad that I'm not there to take one of their spots I I I think it's a phenomenal movie. I thought it was I thought it was fantastic a couple questionable things But I I I would give it like a like an eight and a half out of 10 Nice, nice. Nice. Cool. Cool. What about you? Josh? What were your thoughts my man? I really really liked it. Um I would say that I was apprehensive All the way through and then as it ended I was very satisfied and I really really liked it. Um One of the things that kind of I was iffy about as it was happening And I wonder if anybody else can relate to this There for the first part of the movie. I thought oh, we're doing the good place It's Pixar's version of the good place, especially when like the first little hiccup is that Um, he gets confused for somebody else. Yeah, that's right. Oh, this is the good place And it sucks because Pixar movies take, you know, five years to make so they probably started it before the good place happened And the good place completed before they were able to release it So you could just get stuck in that situation But then it very quickly becomes something else and it takes a couple turns that I didn't expect Um, but yeah, I loved I really really loved the way that it ended. I love the kind of conversations that happen afterwards like people kind of debating on whether or not I'm forgetting the main character's name, but whether or not Joe kind of Yeah, whether Joe like finally moves on and goes into the great beyond or if he should have gone back to earth and Oh, interesting gets the second chance and I really enjoy that debate because I feel like the film sets it's up Self sets itself up so that Either ending would have worked and would have been satisfying And they made a decision and then and settled with it And you either kind of like it or you don't but either way. I think that debate is super interesting Hmm. Hmm. Oh, I like that. Interesting Lisa, what were your thoughts? Uh, it's so funny enough. I think I might be like one of the rare outliers about soul Don't get me wrong. I think the last third, especially that where it hits like that really quiet climax You know, you guys know what I'm talking about with Joe at the piano Um, and then the way it ended I cried for 10 minutes and it was so hard for me to describe Uh, after a point like why I was crying so much I did get to a point because even my my so we watched it together and he he was like questioning a lot of things And I had to explain to him. I'm just like wait the reason why I'm feeling these things is because What just happened is such like Is such a moving idea and it's kind of like this like base idea that I think we all kind of operate on is like every life Not how do I put it? Uh, everyone is worth loving regardless of who they are, right? Um And the way that they did that at the end it was it was really powerful Uh, there are certain things that I definitely Uh had a lot of questions for um And where it so lands on for me is that ultimately if you had a thesis statement and you didn't exactly prove it Then I was I'm a little iffy on it So that that's how I how I viewed soul. However, technically amazing.  Don't get me wrong um And there's definitely some like questionable things that I uh, I did want to I I was like, hmm. I definitely narrowed my eyes at which was kind of the whole like, oh Uh, Tina Fey is in his body now. I don't know how to feel about that. It made me feel super awkward um Number of levels, uh, but I think where they went with soul like They they hit a mark. I don't know if it's the mark for me specifically Okay for That's a really good perspective for for me before I I say how I feel about the movie which to you know TLDR I enjoyed it I I just I just wanted to bring up and this is spoiler. So, you know, I apologize because I was about to spoil it My man comes back at the end But no one addresses because there's not enough time because the movie ends. No one addresses. He comes back Retaining the knowledge that this man knows how the cosmos work. Yeah, this man has seen Not only the afterlife. He's seen the before and I'm like, yo, he's met the jerry's. He's met the Which by the way, which by the way, terry if you're out there mind your damn business Don't worry Don't worry about what about what joe's got going on.  Yeah, joe Joe had like he just comes back and he's like, yeah, I'm just gonna live my life You know, like to the best I can the fullest I can I'm like, bro You can write a book right now and become like a bazillionaire if you wanted to you could become the next Jeff Bezos if you wanted to and then I challenge you in the next soul to to try to spend all your money before you die But I'd like to I'd like to counter that thought With with this wait the spend of money though No, or the no the him coming back and like telling everybody because he knows all this information I had that same thought but the And let me know if I'm wrong with this thought process But everybody can get in the zone and presumably the people that can get in the zone as depicted in the movie are also aware Of all the cosmo stuff. Oh, yeah, that's right So that would mean anybody who could get in the zone could do that and they probably do but everybody thinks they're crazy Which is what real life is Yeah So that was a picture. Thank you. Thank you. Tyler or mike. I forget who's pulling up stuff But that was a picture of the great before So What I love the movie. I thought it was great. I uh, I definitely want to ask everyone here, you know Like a thematic question of the movie, you know, like what is your spark? But real quick. I definitely just wanted to talk, you know, like because I am a aspiring cinematographer I really appreciated The you know, like the the use of color in this movie, you know, obviously, you know Using color as as as a theme or you know, like color contrast isn't anything new But I just really wanted to touch on like, you know, when when joe goes to this uh before, you know, uh The the great before everything has this really like nice Smooth soft lighting everything is very slightly blurred because obviously he's you're in this little limbo state There's a nice bluish, you know turquoise type of vibe. So really the most important are the blues and then When you get into the like the the on earth, you know, welcome to earth. This is a will smith line. I love to use Um, but we can switch to that next picture. Look at that. Everything is warmer You know, the the the lighting is a lot, you know, it's it's a lot of like point source lighting So if he's outside, you know running in the streets, you have like the harsh sun hitting him But in this case here when he's like, you know, doing his little jazz thing, you know He's you've got like the hard lights from the from the stage So I just really appreciated the use of that color and then one thing Maybe this is me in my own head, but My man's wearing a blue suit So it kind of gave me this vibe of like he's still, you know in between because even though at this point in the uh In the story, you know, he's obviously kind of return against boiler. I apologize He's kind of returned and he's kind of doing his thing and he's trying to find what he believes is his purpose Or his spark, but he's still wearing this like Thematically blue suit. So I thought it was uh, I thought it was a nice, uh, cool touch there off the dome I was gonna say that too very smart. Noelle very smart I did not notice that. That's pretty dope. Yeah, I would have. Yeah I'll be honest. I noticed that probably 30 minutes before we aired because I just watched soul really fast before we came on like the research You're putting in the work So you say you watch soul really fast for like the second time or third time second time the second time Yeah, like the first time I watched it on christmas day and then When I messaged you george about like, uh, you know like being on and then I was like, oh man What was the movie that that has done very well and you know, like an animated feature In in recent times and I was like, oh soul we could talk about that So then I pitched the idea and then I was like, I don't remember everything So let me let me pretend like I'm educated and I'll just speed through it real quick. So I think I did a pretty good job. I think I did. Okay Uh, I a shout out tyler stab and chat just went soul to soul harder Yeah, thank you. I like that Action is the spark Can it be a can be a crossover with uh brink and it could be like Soul skaters Team pup insides returns. Oh, right for the chat if you don't know about late 90s Disney channel like movies Brink is where it's at like Amazing, I love It's okay, I know I it's a fantastic tyler. I love it. It's so much fun. I want his spark was in line skating Oh, thank you. Thank you tyler. Thank you johnny tsunami Okay, disney had these bangers of like extreme sport films in the late 90s early odds What a what a great time to be alive Um, I did I want to circle back to that question you asked no, well, what is everyone's spark? I like kind of like that What is everyone's spark? No, well, George, please do us do us the honors my man. What is my spark? Honestly after watching that movie, I still didn't understand the difference between the spark and the purpose I feel like they didn't explain that very well. They tried to like Cram it in at the very end and be like, oh, yeah, this is the lesson of the movie get out of here. So Uh, still any point five I told you sucker for music you give me some good music I'll forgive a lot of things Um, but yeah music music is my spark. I'm not a musician uh Anymore, but I I love being around it. I love hearing it sound. I love I love I love different sounds. I uh I love finding music. I love sharing music. I I mean before roosterteeth. I that's what I did for seven years was just work in and around music Oh Yeah, that's that's that's my spark Bring in music to the masses Who's your who's your favorite musician right now top top musician right now Of all time off the dome off the dome. You can't of right now or of all time Right now right now, uh, jid who has been is a rapper from atlanta has been on repeat for me But if you look at my spotify and believe what they tell me every single year, uh, most of what I listen to is Emojin heap or sade Hmm According to spotify But spotify doesn't know my youtube listening habits. So Yes But yeah, I'm very much a yeah, like jid right now Emojin heap all the time sade all the time, uh Give me give me some some, uh Been listening to a lot of Who is it? Who is it? I'm listening to right now shuffle shuffle playlist on shuffle What type of music did you did you have growing up? Like what what were the influences that like your parents put on you? So my parents, uh, are from the democratic republic of congo formerly known as xaire Um, so a lot of the music that I listened to was not in english Uh, it was it was either in french or it was in lingala, which is a band two dialect to speak in the xaire um and My cousins though are very american, so it was very much It was like around the early 2000s where I started to recognize my love of music Like when I was getting to like middle school high school age. So it's a lot of uh, Give me give me any any 2000s like r&b Give me give me any like frankie beveley and maize Uh any any any song that was featured in a tyler perry play. I I One of my my when my closest friend is my best friend His name is his name is tony his family is very much into like 80s music and like 70s music and stuff They're cuban. He's half cuban and half italian and so I picked up a whole lot. I didn't know any beatle songs until I was a sophomore in high school Just because I was never exposed to it until I met them. So I learned about the Beatles in high school. I learned about uh name some other like really big I don't want to say like white people But I was thinking yeah, I was I was aware I was aware of yeah, the beach boys I knew they existed, but I hadn't listened to a song of theirs until I was in high school Um, just like nickleback Is what we're talking about cold play, right? the fray nickleback transcends rice And anybody who says they don't like nickleback is a liar because the only reason why People hate nickleback is because they're super popular and the only reason they're super popular is because everybody loves nickleback Stop lying to yourselves. Stop lying to people That's my take. Thank you That was a gift. That was a gift Hey josh, what's your what's your in the zone? Yeah, what's your what's your spark josh? Let's let's go to josh Oh man, let's uh, I'm torn between the two the two aspects of production Like I feel so lucky that we get to we get to work in production because this is what I love doing um, I I really love Writing I really love every part of the writing process Like when the first draft is terrible and you have you have to beg people for notes And you get to implement notes and rewrite it and rewrite it and rework it that part is so So satisfying to me I love coming up with dialogue and and figuring out how characters sound and how they bounce off of each other And what they would do in a certain situation that part is so fun Um, but it's either that or like it's really hard to beat watching the final product with a crowd with an audience I've got I've been lucky enough to do that a couple times and it's so Satisfying like that's when in soul when they when they show people in the zone That's where I that's more my brain went to like that's when I feel like I'm in the zone when I'm like listening to a crowd React to something you made something that you were involved in You know when they're watching in a dark theater and they're laughing or they're Whatever, you know, it's like that that feeling is awesome And I I first had that in high school and I've been like chasing it ever since Love it Issa do you want to go do you want to go I want to know more about issa right now shut up Um, I was thinking about it just because you I know you did mention that um Or george, I know you said there is like this difference Between purpose and spark So it's you know, just trying to remember that that's not necessarily a purpose in life But it's kind of like what makes you want to live I think um is how I would Determine that man and I don't know if I have quite the answer But there's two things that kind of come to mind and and one of them is love because I'm a romantic at heart But don't at me if you say you like me.  Don't don't george. Don't george. Don't Don't don't okay George shut up But I love love shipping is my reason But I think the other thing I could think about is dance actually um Fun fact, I was really into hip-hop dancing in middle school high school and that's because of my siblings um It was definitely part of those like asian dance crews that you may have seen on youtube kind of a thing like I was in that scene um And we're on the east coast specifically So it was a smaller crowd compared to what the west coast was like back in the early 2000s um And so like josh when you're talking about like what gets you in the zone to me Like what gets me in the zone is actually like thinking about dancing or like dancing to songs and things like that So it's like yeah, something along those lines is what I would say Yo, I just want to I just want to see isa dancing with the Jabba walkies right now. Oh my god Oh, I would love to see that. America's best dance crew dance crew. Yes. Thank you, josh. Thank you Of every season of that show of all the dance crews. They were the actual Oh, they're the only ones that anybody still knows about like they're still they're still in things It's true and I appreciate that like you don't know who they are still I mean like relatively speaking like you may know, you know individuals But like you don't know if that's this person because they got masks because they know it's not about it's It's not about like them individually. It's about when they come together And then that's them in their zone. Oh, man. Isa, please be a jabba walkie There's there's there's who who's to say she isn't a jabba walkie Oh Oh my gosh. They all wear masks. Mind blown off the dome off the dome. That's it. Mind blown off the dome Mandela allegedly I would I would say for for me my my spark Has been wanting to just tell stories. I am I'm I kind of hopped on the whole vibe of like, what do I want to do very late in in Not relatively speaking like I would say I didn't realize I wanted to get into film Or really just telling stories until I was roughly like 27 28 And so I've just been you know at it just wanting to tell stories I just kind of realized that as a kid I just always told stories and even if I just kind of told them to myself I just really enjoyed that so I don't count that as my purpose But I see that as my spark because And maybe this goes into my actual purpose. I really enjoy Trying to positively affect other people's lives and I feel like maybe I can do that through storytelling, so You know, I don't know. I mean I kind of now that like Isa like that was a dope story. Now. I kind of want to dance I kind of want to like There we go, here we go free sell free sell and dance damn A whole performance. I think my bones are a little too old for that. I don't think I have enough ACL in my knee. Is that the is that what it's called? I think I'll tear the ACL instantly the moment I try to do a windmill that ACL is gone. Why would you start with a windmill?  Tyler. I know you're smiling All in no, well at the middle school dance and everybody's like this Super far apart and his he's gonna go not windmill No, no, we're going in we're going in windmill right now back triple backflip right now. They're like bro You don't have to go that hard. These people will remember me forever. Why did you show up already sweating right now? I was warming up man. I was warming up I like how you mentioned that your bones are old and already people in chatter like wait, how old is no Well, he doesn't look older every time. No, well says how old he is I I get confused and then remember I know that already I'm the the hints is I I'm pretty sure I could say out of this Panel of amazing people. I am probably the oldest and I will say I can guarantee you I'm the oldest No, well is older than me And I'm turning I'm turning 29 at the end of the month. So oh you are And and and no well is more than a couple years older than me. So that gives you a hint As to how I'll say this I went into high school and graduated high school before you got to high school Like when no one was saying when no one was saying like At 27 28, I figured out I wanted to be a storyteller. That made me feel comfortable sitting here right now Just not figuring out what I want to do in my life. That's how old no well is Me before that me before 27. I was basically terry.  All right mind your business figure out your spark And counting is done is not the purpose Secret noel is whenever someone is like wait, how old is noel? You like get younger The magic words that unlock the fountain of youth. So it's just like this cycle of you'll just keep looking younger One of my bucket list goals has always been to like work with ferrell williams But it's just because he's a vampire and I want to be a vampire with him And I just think we'd have a cool name, you know ferrell and noel or noel and ferrell, whichever We could do it all If you guys got into the same room, I don't know We'd we'd Benjamin Button the whole time. Yeah, we would just just d8 There's a special club for the vampires and that'd be you noel um Uh ferrell and Keanu Reeves Oh, no, we got to throw in a jared leto in that mug jared leto that man The vampire club So, uh, I want to say thanks guys for joining us. I will uh find george. I'll say it.  I like you two josh This is arguably a room full of my arguably favorite people arguably Allegedly allegedly, thank you Uh, but really I appreciate y'all for spending time with me and with the group. Uh, that was that was a great hour Thank you for having us. Yeah Thanks for kevin. Uh, uh, thank you. Oh, so so my outro right now is thank you noel. We'll see you again Thank you george. We'll also see you again. Uh, thank you josh. We'll see you again too. Look at that Chat since you're here. Look at us. Look at us. Look at us. Look at us. We'll see each other. Look at us. Look at us. Sit in here. Look at us. Look at us. Thanks guys, thank you so much. Since chat since you're here check out that little research, uh, there's a new episode premiering on friday for first members Um, and since you're still here, you should definitely check out, uh, staying zen stay zen with katyn Um, shout out katyn is also also very good. I like katyn too. There. I said it Don't look at me. I love katyn. She's the best eventually isis gonna like so many people and forget one person That's that's probably true george. George has read me off the dome Uh, thanks guys. That's our show. See you next week. Thank you


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