reement with them to keep of upkeep on that on trimming in the trees Keeping the patio in good shape or or could it deteriorate over time? And I saw that there was a special permit granted because of the use of the public way that the setback That would normally have been more from the front Was reduced so it's nearer to the little walkway than it might be because the public way is so deep and so we've given him Some additional space to build on and giving him Giving him giving the developer use of this. So I just want to make sure we're protected Then the other question is less related directly to the public way, but there are going to be Some number of apartments in this. I think it's 12 That will not be allowed to have a parking space And I'm not sure what provisions have been Put in that stop them people from getting a car and packing parking at the bank Or parking along this new public way clogging the street is that Violation enough to lose their lease, but I'm a little worried that What looks like big wide open space could be clogged because there aren't enough parking spaces. So It's both the maintenance costs Seating, you know, the frontage we we let that get narrower than it would have been required We get the specials permit. So it's those are my questions yes So in terms of the maintenance, mr. McChie has stated that he will maintain this area I think he's going to maintain everything except for the Lights the street lights that are going to be put in and those would be maintained by the town But otherwise, you know, he'll mow the grass and he'll maintain the little sitting area and maintain the walkways And the bicycle racks and the benches and everything. So that's I imagine he will have to make some sort of a written agreement with the town But that wasn't really part of the planning board's Review process because the planning board doesn't have jurisdiction over the right of way Maybe mr. Backelman could speak to that issue In terms of the setback. Yes, the planning board did grant mr. Ritchie a Modification of the setback requirement I believe that the setback requirement was 10 feet and I think that the setback that he's actually gotten in this In the final plan was Three feet and that did require a special permit from the planning board and they did grant that I think even if he had had a 10 foot setback, it would have been hard for him to do the grading within the narrow area that he Had available to him So I don't really have too much more to say about that 12 part a 12 apartments would have no parking spaces That would be in the lease for those apartments and Mr. McChie feels that there are people in town who Ride the bus or ride their bicycles or you know Have some alternative forms of transportation so that they don't need parking and that they will be happy to live in this apartment building without parking spaces so that's something that The committee of town council may wish to delve into further I'm sure that mr. McChie and his consultants will be Meeting with the committee when when this is presented to them And then in terms of parking along the new public way Well, there really aren't any parking spaces provided. There are two bus stops provided one on the East side and one on the west side, but there aren't Really parking spaces provided along along the way We did get some comments of concern from Florence savings bank about whether The tenants from this building would park in the Florence savings bank parking lot and mr. McChie Stated that he would monitor His part his tenants and um, you know wouldn't allow them to park over there. So that's kind of a An arrangement or a conversation that would happen between um Florence savings bank and mr. McChie Florence savings bank does have the ability to tow Cars that are parked on their park in their parking lot Without permission So that may be an arrangement that just has to be worked out between the Between the property owners Before we go on with questions, I need clarification from the town manager This is a request regarding public way. So it doesn't seem to me that the issue of Whether there are sufficient parking spaces should be coming before the council at this time Well, yes See this is a request to for the builder to build to build this project with use of the public way by doing the things and And I think what chris is saying is that if you don't grant this approval that he probably cannot move forward on this project But the issue of getting into sufficient parking spaces is normally not Yeah, I think Yeah, so so again this actually with the question before the council is whether you want to refer it to the tso committee or not So yes, that would be it would be your your topic of conversation should be about the public way in the use of that public way permanently And not about whether there's parking or not parking space. Exactly. Yeah, okay. Thank that's clarification Dorothy okay um I have been to many many meetings when this was discussed and yet today is the first time That I realized that the partly public way area the green part in front of the building Is on a deep slope So what I see here in the flat picture looks as if it's grassy space with trees That has some social purpose or can at least have people standing or walking there But if it's a slope then it's really Not what I had thought it was um I find the idea of giving a variance from 10 feet on the sidewalk to three and having the sidewalk right up against the building No space on any side. I think that's um not a good design Mr. Michi would be allowed to continue this project But not as it is presently designed He originally started out as everybody does in town with fewer units Then they come back and double units So this land that he has Does not support a project of this size As far as I'm concerned and I do not think that the town of amherst should give its public way So it ends up we have a sloping piece of of land And we have a narrow sidewalk right up in front of a building where there may be some shops And I think some of them may be residential units So I I I think it's a very bad plan Evan Thank you. Um I'm going to try to say this as uh politely as possible But it does sound like some of my colleagues on the council Seemed to think that they've been appointed to the planning board and not to the town council Issues of parking issues of setbacks These are questions that Lie in the domain of the planning board and we're discussed by the planning board I know that Dorothy was at many of the meetings I don't know if Kathy looked at them But the issue of parking and where people would park and parking spaces was discussed at length In the planning board and so I'm getting very nervous listening to this conversation because this is potentially coming to tso to decide whether we want to allow These modifications of the public way It's not for us to render judgment on the project or the building itself. And and so I don't think that it's our Our uh Responsibility to decide Whether or not this project should go forward or it's to decide the public way request and so That makes me wonder What people expect tso to do and so I've often been an advocate Of more specific referrals on this council I sometimes get uncomfortable with just referring issues To committees without telling those committees what we're looking for from them. Um, and this would be Something that I would want a more specific referral. What do you want tso? To tell you to come back from this because at this point I don't actually see a reason to refer this to tso. We have information before us We have recommendations from the planning board. We have recommendations from the design review board concom has weighed in on this and we're just asked Do you want to allow use of public way for? a bus stop Sidewalks a plaza things that actually align very well with uh, what we were talking about earlier about complete streets and so To me I could vote on this right now Tonight and allow this project to move forward and unless I can hear someone talk about what they what they expect tso to add What the value add is of tso Which I hope would be wrapped into the referral I don't know why we are why we there's a need to refer this to tso as opposed to just saying Every other committee has looked at this Do we think that this is a good use of the public way in this part? But I don't want to hear any discussions about parking requirements or setbacks or things that have already been discussed ad nauseam by the planning board Mandy joe I second everything evan said Uh, the planning board dealt with all of that that is not our job We are asked to look at the improvements to the public way that would become permanent, which is sidewalks plaza some benches a um bus stop bike racks Benches and then potentially a shelter at the bus stop and say are we going to allow those permanent public way changes that under the proposal Aren't even going to cost the town anything other than the maintenance of the street lighting because the developer Mr. Um, I'm not even sure how to say his last name machi Has agreed to pay for all of the improvements in the public way and the maintenance of everything but the street lights We are to render a decision as to whether we agree with those changes to the public way and only the public way Uh, I look at this and I say this is a vast improvement over the current public way It actually shows that it's a public way and not someone's front yard, which the current and Past use looked like I didn't even know the way was this wide um And now we're going to get an actual public use public way sidewalks benches bike racks I'm having a hard time seeing a downside to this number one. Um In terms of what tso could do to answer evan's question the design review board while having a unanimous vote Had some recommendations that are not quite a part of this ban And so given that we would be sort of accepting a plan I think tso could come back as to whether to Add into that plan the design review board's recommendations or not I'm because they specifically said they couldn't mandate it. It's the town council's job So I think that's something that tso could do To to ensure whether we should be accepting the drb's recommendations or going another way with those recommendations and saying the current plan Minus those recommendations is is fine. So that's where I see tso being able to give something to the council that is concrete So mandi joe and evan, I just want to say the reason I asked paul for that earlier clarification Was for exactly the reason you point out Uh, kathy you have your hand up I just want to clarify what I said my beginning comment was about the public way and the cost of maintaining it and chris answered That it could be a requirement that this be in writing rather than verbal So that is one thing that tso could be recommended to the town about the public way I only raised the parking on a concern that there were cars along the street Were places where the bus and chris did answer that there's not going to be any parking around the street So it's not going to spill out over to the street. I wasn't Questioning the planning board. So I was going back to the public way He may the developer may agree to install all this for free But 10 years from now, I would like to know that the developer has agreed in writing to maintain it as well Dorothy I think that um evan raised some good points Um, I what is tso supposed to do? Um, the public way is the public way If we are the keepers of the public way, then I think we have to think about What when we give it away how easily do we give it away? Do we just give it away anytime somebody says I really would like to do put something on that? Um, maybe it looks better than what's there, but it might not look as good as something else that could be there um I enjoyed mandy joe's suggestion that we look at the design review board suggestions But the question remains really what is it? We're supposed to do with the public way Are we the guardians of the people? I mean do we protect it for the people or what are what are we supposed to do? Because the phrase public way sounds like a public trust to me So this this is a larger piece of land because I when we originally saw it It was actually called a a green a town a town common and then they started getting confused as to what to call it But it was a larger piece of land that belonged to the town So that's those are my questions Steve schreiber Hi, so Long time as a longtime playing board member. I think that everything's fair game. So in other words, they're asking for use of the public way therefore their project is subject to Screwed me that I think is our job. So I I actually don't have you know as much of an issue of the counselors sort of weighing in on What they think could possibly be improved because they are asking For something from us and I so I think that that's for a game whether or not that has Standing that's to be seen. So I think my main issue is that I wish I knew what the master plan was for this town public way So your dorthy is absolutely right counselor Pam is absolutely right that at one time this was presented as an extension of the part of the east common And then we were told that it's not part of the east common Whatever it is. It's a much wider right of way that's Elsewhere like just below this the right of way gets much narrower And just above this the florin savings bank. I think really botched they're part of the public right of way So it would be nice to That would be that's my only That's not going to be solved in the time this building's under construction. That's going to be not going to be solved But I wish I knew what the big idea what the plan was for the Entire right of way and that's really the only way that I have to evaluate whether or not this is consistent with that Andy steinberg so I Analogize it to what we did on spring street already because spring street We were looking at changes that were being proposed to how The parking would be used in front of the building and how the spaces would be used in front of the building. We were not Um looking at the building itself that had been a decision made by the planning board Which is appropriately within their Um her purview think that the motion could be strengthened by words to the effect of being referred to solely for a Information regarding the proposal to use the public way But I do think we need to make sure that it is distinguished from the building issues That have already been addressed through the appropriate panel Into hearing processes quite extensive Chris you have your hand up still So I just wanted to address one of miss pams concerns, which had to do with The fact that she thought there might be a big slope within the public way so they're going to be Grading the the area down from you know what I said three or four feet Out into this area But it's going to be a gradual slope So we're not expecting that there's going to be a sudden drop off or anything like that They've done a pretty good grading plan And I hope that when the applicant and his consultant come to the tso or I think it's the tso to Talk about this that they will present their grading plan and talk about what their slope What the level of slope is but I don't feel like It's going to be an abrupt slope at all. I think they've done a pretty good job with grading it Dr. Angeles This is kind of my neighborhood. I go to the pharmacy and the bank on a regular basis Looking at this picture and looking at the public way. I'm I'm quite drawn to it I think it's going to make a positive change. I do not think this should be referred to tso I think and and I'm concerned about how That long term will work anyway And I'm very concerned that it is difficult for me and for other counselors To separate themselves from their opinions and desires to see what the real issues are So I would like to not refer this to tso and accept the design The planning board's proposal and accept the developer's proposal of in terms of using the public way All right. We're at the point now the motion we have drafted is a referral motion Someone would like to make a different motion. Please do so at this time Dorothy okay, um, I would like to follow up with mandy joe's suggestion and say that uh, it be referred to tso For the express purpose of looking at the suggestions from the design review board and deciding whether they were relevant All right, so we'll try to work that into the motion Is there any other comment on that? chris so, um, I think that it's really a more It's a broader discussion than just the Concerns that were raised by the design review board the design review board has some specific things that it's looking at And it's mostly looking at the aesthetics of of an issue But what the town council is? Charged with is figuring out what the use of the land is So I think, you know, miss pam is going in the right direction but I think that the referral should encompass The use of the land it should encompass whether you want these sidewalks here, whether you want the bus stop here Whether you want a public space right in front of this building The grading and all of those things including the issues that the designer view board looks looks at So that would be my recommendation that you really, you know, take a complete look at what's being proposed here And not just focus on the aesthetics issues Um, let me just say that the what the what will be referred is the proposal and With that proposal comes all of that option for people to look at Alyssa As a member of tsa who's not eager to receive this referral I don't really understand. I was trying to reread the drb memo again And I don't really understand what it is that they voted but said they couldn't Mandate and so and then chris is saying well, but that's just design aesthetics And you need to hear from the developer and you need to hear from his consultants And I have no idea why I would need to hear from any of them about any of this so I was thinking along the same lines pat was and I it may be mandy joe could point out to me because i'm just not reading it correctly what it is that We would want to do potentially that drb was not allowed to make a decision on And I think the other thing we're losing sight of here is timeliness if This is an issue before a person can start I have no reason to believe tso even has time to do this anytime in the month of may So You know, it's all well and good to say well the developer can come talk to you but We're again, what is our value add if somebody can be really specific In in the referral that would be helpful to me George tso is Trying to determine its own processes with the various things that are sent to it And here's a classic example A use of the public way which is supposed to come to us and I assume this will come to us And we're going to have to figure out how to deal with it and it seems to me that's just Part of the joy of being a member of that committee um A number of issues been raised tonight that uh tso can certainly sink its teeth into I don't know about the timing issue, but that's something that The chair and the committee will have to resolve in terms of priorities But I don't see how this can avoid Not coming to us and how we can avoid not Dealing with it. Um, Kathy raised a good point about Ensuring that there'd be some kind of written agreement if that's appropriate To make sure that this is maintained The chris's rate may raise a good point about the simple fact that we're dealing with the use Of this space and whatever that entails and I think that's something we need to talk about and think about So I'm in favor of simply having it referred without all kinds of writers and attachments We've had a thorough discussion Many good points have been raised and now it's time for tso whether we like it or not to actually do what Our charge says we're supposed to do Um I'm going to take another comment or two and then we're going to uh move to the motion evan Yeah, I actually had a timing question. I guess this would be for chris, you know One of the reasons Andy brought up the spring street proposal earlier and one of the reasons that we felt comfortable Sort of sending that to a committee and having it kicked on the road as we were told and they don't really need an answer on this until They're finishing up. It sounds to me like they needed an answer on this before they start So I just like to get an idea of what their timeline Is and also, I don't know if they're I don't know how covid has impacted their construction If they're trying to move forward. So just some clarification there Chris, please clarify So, um, yes, mr. McChie wanted to get started on this project last fall and as soon as he received his okay from the planning board he You know started doing some work on the site and the building commissioner shut him down because he Didn't have a building permit and he hadn't gotten permission from town council So he's been waiting for quite a while since you know sometime in late october or november To get started here. So he certainly has You know or had a timeline that indicated that you know, he really needed to know soon I don't know what his situation is now based on um, you know, the covid situation But I assume that he's still Planning to move ahead quickly with this. Otherwise, he wouldn't have submitted something to town council Chris um Chris my question is does he need to have the design? Or does he need to have the permission regarding the public way approved in order to start? Yes, he does because he's filling his site by whatever I said three or four feet And therefore he's going to have to fill within the town right of way in order to build his building Thank you. Mandy joe Mandy joe. You need that. I was working on a meeting. Um, that is I'm trying to look at the record of decision and I'm not seeing it on here. Um That's different than I had gathered from reading the hundred and some pages of documents we got um That you know with the spring street. It was they just had to apply to us for the use Before they could issue the building permit. Um, and this one I guess is slightly different than that. Um But but I wanted to say the I think we need to refer this the design review review board Had a motion that was voted unanimously to recommend the following add a recycling receptacle Provide a bench with arms at the bus location and provide two benches without arms at the puzzle location and optional If the applicant decides to replace the existing acorn light lighting fixture across the street To match the applicants proposed light fixtures, the board would be grateful But this is not an official recommendation. So these are only recommendations that aren't currently a part of the plan And so if we were going to accept this plan and we wanted to accept those recommendations We'd have to change the acceptance of the plan to add those recommendations in as Kathy said We'd have to do stuff. So that's stuff that I would like to see TSA to do. So I I support the referral Um, I'd like further clarification because I'm not seeing anything in the site plan The planning board record of decision That requires them in in my first quick read what I remember reading was That the construction on the public way won't even begin till august of 2021 I think is what it was. Um And so that made me think that we could refer and we would have a little bit of time That wouldn't delay the construction. So more clarification on that would be helpful Paul you have your hand up. Yeah, so um On the site plan review item 13 says site improvements proposed within the town right of way Shall be reviewed and approved by the town council After review and recommendations from the design review board prior to construction So that's the trigger that brings it to the town council I think we need to go ahead with the motion to refer I'm going to put the motion out there and ask for a second Um to refer the 133 and 143 southeast street permanent Use of public way request dated 0305 20 and the town manager memo dated 04 30 20 To the town services and outreach committee for a report and recommendation To the council in 90 days. Is there a second? Second Thank you um Is there any further discussion? Evan So I'm I'm really struggling with this one because We're delaying the start of the construction of this project, which is money for the developer. It's it's it's potential Lost opportunity for us So I'm intending to vote against the motion But I'd be more amenable to voting for it if we could shrink that 90 day requirement because Even though tso might not use the 90 days It'd be great to at least send a message that says we're not going to wait three months to get this back to us Are you wanting to put that in the form of an amendment? I can um, so I would move to amend the motion To reduce it to 30 days Motion's been made is there a second Amendment to the original motion has been made. Is there a second andy? This is andy and I second okay So the motion is to Change the time that you would recommend they report back to the council to 30 days We would vote first on the motion to amend the amendment and then to the original motion Alyssa, do you have your hand up? Yes? Yes, I was just going to say I support because for exactly what Evan said 30 days I'm Rather appalled that they've had this problem since October and we're not hearing about it until the middle of may So I feel like we really need to show that we're trying to do our due diligence and I think 30 days would be good Mandy joe So I was going to make a similar one. I support the 30 days. I do just want to mention that Um This is not that the town delayed this so I'm not sure Despite what people are saying how urgent the developer believes this approval to be because they got a design review review board opinion at some point And had a letter dated march 5th from them from their consultants or Berkshire design group that the town hall didn't even receive till april 21st So they apparently sat on a letter for six weeks Um, and so if it was extremely important to them, they wouldn't have been sitting on that letter for six weeks. Um so, you know, I I question how Important it might be to them given those dates. Um, but I do support the 30 days referral instead of 90 Uh, Darcy, you also have your hand up Darcy I would just say that I think that would be extremely difficult to get it done in 30 days Which is just two meetings Um, uh, and we have a pretty jammed agenda already. So I would find that extremely difficult to do Dorothy Okay, I just uh, I think the dates of the letter and the holding of the letter don't indicate necessarily indicate that uh, he's not In a hurry Those are the dates where people were going crazy figuring out what the heck are we going to have an an epidemic a pandemic? Um, you know march 5th, that's when it really began to hit home And he may have had to stop and think my what am I going to do? So I wouldn't hold that against him. I I do think that um a timely response whether it's 30 days or whether it's Um between 30 and 60 days, but not 90 days. Um, I I do agree with evan that we should move in as As fast as we can reasonably Okay, a motion's been made to amend the original motion The motion to amend is To change the time for reporting back with a recommendation of the council In 30 days, it's been made and seconded. We're going to move to the vote This is the vote on the amendment to change it to 30 days and we'll start with Um Yes, Darcy duMont No Riesmer is a yes panicky Yes Pam Oh, yes Ross Yes Ryan Yes Shane Yes Triber Yes Steinberg Yes Schwartz has Um needed to leave the meeting Uh, shall any ballman? Yes Brewer Yes Andi Angelis Yes The vote is 11 yes one no and no abstentions and one absent We're now going to move on to the main motion The main motion now reads to refer The 133 and 143 southeast street permanent use of public way request dated 0305 20 and town manager's memo dated 04 30 20 To the town services and outreach committee for report and recommendation to the council in 30 days The motion has been made and seconded. Is there any further comment? Darcy, do you have your hand up from before or still? No, I no longer have it up. Thank you Um I'm going to take a roll call vote on that Um, so this time we start with Riesmer and it's a yes Panicky yes Pam yes Ross Yes Ryan Yes Shane Yes Triber Yes Um Steinberg Yes Schwartz is absent Balmille Yes Brewer Yes DeAngelis Yes Humant Yes It's uh, the vote is 12 000 and one absent um We have taken care of the other votes For the evening in our consent and so we move on at this point To the uh community activity forms And I believe Evan this comes out of oka, so we're going to come to you Yeah, um So it's a little later than I expected we'd get to this point. So I I feel a little bad throwing issue somewhat complicated at the council Would you like to refer to that to the 18th? Do well, so what I was going to say is um It comes with a recommendation to the council My expectation was not that we would vote on the recommendation tonight Be in that we because I didn't have so anything to wave rule 8.4 um And so it needs to be read again on the 18th Or it needs to be read again. So um If people really want to talk about this now, I'm fine going through it But if people feel like they have the report, um, I'm also fine just fielding questions or putting this off Hey mandy joe Right mandy joe I will be very quick. Um, I just want I wonder if oka actually does want to consider a second motion I know you guys were just recommending that we adopt the caf as a council the changes to the caf As I was reading section two of your new process Which is this community activity form section um It occurred to me that nearly all of that section Is potentially something that the council could and maybe should adopt Um, it deals with how long the calves are good for Um, that it'll be three year look back instead of a two year look back. Um, and now that the committee appointments planning board zba and finance committee are split between two separate council committees I wonder if we want that to be standardized across the whole council how long people look back and who responds To them when they are submitted Through the town website. So that might be something I ask that oka consider between now and the 18th as to whether maybe the community activity form paragraph in its processes more appropriate for The council as a whole Yeah, uh, if I could just respond very briefly. Um, I think that's a I think that's a good point Um, so if you looked at the sort of line edits of the community activity form Um, the actual form in the thing that they have to check off That's where it says, um, they're kept on file. It currently says two years We were going to replace it to three and so I actually agree with you that that's a council decision But I sort of saw the adoption of the revised caf and striking the two and replacing it with three on the caf Um disclaimer itself was sort of a de facto Rote in support, but I think we could also Separate those out if you feel like that should be in a a separate uh decision Okay Darcy Um, I'm just wondering if we haven't had had, um, suggested that further that we refer this to the next Meeting and I'm just wondering if that's still a possibility because I'd be for doing that and Assuming that this would not be considered the first Meeting and that would be considered the first meeting um, I I Uh, I think you all saw that I sent out an opinion about the vote that we took on this process and, um So I'm just interested to know if we're actually going to discuss that tonight or whether we want to refer this Because it's late I mean, did you I just need to consult with you? that if an counselor makes a motion at this point to just Take this off and refer it for later. What would that motion be? um, I I'm not sure what I don't think there would be a motion This is a first discussion in order to vote in any substance on this matter. We'd have to vote to waive our rules Right We don't have to vote on something on a second reading There's plenty of things we've voted on on a third or fourth and then there's always the charter um, right to postpone If someone doesn't want to vote at a second reading without having would you if that's the case if someone doesn't feel they're ready They can charter right to postpone During the motion at a second reading if the motion does come so i'm not sure there is that's that's what I need Thank you Alyssa you have a comment Yes, I do I realize it's super late But I would like this to count as our first reading as mandy joe says Um, you know second reading is not the required night. We have to make the decision We just have to make sure we have two readings minimally And I think it would be entirely appropriate to make sure see if the council had any Questions about the actual oka report that was provided well ahead of time I think that it's deserved that the council actually took the time to read it and should be able to ask questions Like mandy joe did I also want to state very succinctly That the email that was sent to us tonight at 5 33 was an open meeting law violation and I will not Want to discuss that item tonight Uh, Alyssa you stay okay. Darcy is your hand still up or have you just not taken it down? Yes, it's still up Pardon me I uh, if if this is the first reading then I would like to Talk about my reasons for um senting from the votes that were taken at the oka meeting and Just one second Uh, I did um Evan did include my um My reasons that were stated at the meeting for Descenting in the report that he has submitted but um As is usually the case with me. I have thought of other reasons after the vote I frequently do that um, and I'm sure some of you do also, but um, uh, so I just wanted to go into those reasons which are in the in the um Memo that I sent at the beginning of the meeting and um Yes, I ended a few Darcy. I need to interrupt you The memo that you sent at the beginning of the meeting is not part of the record Nor could it be part of the record because of the deliberation nature I think we need to refer this back to tsl. I mean to oka For a way in which those all of that gets integrated into the report Okay, what I can still orally talk about my reasons for um dissenting Yes, um So basically, uh, the um The process that's being proposed I Object because it doesn't provide Uh a check because of the fact that currently counselors Automatically receive the CAFs Um, they can get a sense of the pool of applicants themselves before the interviews um, and with the proposed process If an applicant has applied within the last three years Which is frequently the case um He or she won't be required to submit a CAF um, and then The sitting counselors this will be a step back for us because currently we get all the CAFs Now there will be a whole block of people that won't ever submit CAFs And so we won't see them They may have uh Applied three years ago But we will not see those we won't be able to look them up in our emails because We only took office a year ago um and um Counselors won't ever have a means of seeing who's applied um For who's who's actually applied for the current positions. They'll only see The pared down pool A week before the interviews Okay, um I'm sorry. Go ahead darson. Um, so currently as I said the applications are automatically sent to all the counselors and under the proposed process Of requiring statements of interest Only the chair or the chair's designee will be receiving them. So that person Will have the discretion to to decide how and how many times the applicants need to be contacted Speak to them off the record and decide when a person can be dropped from the pool So there's nothing preventing that person from pursuing certain applicants further or seeking more applicants if if Depending on what the pool looks like and I would argue that removing the possibility of bias Is isn't possible where there's only one counselor Responsible for finalizing the pool of applicants and where and the main thing that prevents A problem there is that if there's a check On that one person In the form of the whole council receiving CAFs automatically like we do right now So I am Very much opposed to this process Because mainly because It doesn't provide a check on possible bias Uh, I'm going to take a couple comments And then given the hour and the fact that we have not completed the agenda We're going to move on since this is the first reading Dorothy Okay, um, I Did read this but I can't say that I read it well because I got very confused many times So, uh, the thing that's that I'd be interested in reading is what is your SOI because that's where the person writes about Why they're interested in the position and uh, what experience they might have but It's There's just so many sentences here that I'm not quite sure where that what they all mean So would we see all the SOIs of everybody who applied for the job? Or would we only see some of them Evan i'm gonna have to rely on you Yeah, so, um Let me let me provide just uh, let me answer your question, but just provide a brief bit of um context. Um, so Right right now the process that we have um before it was amended The process that we used for planning board in january and the process we used um for zba in april um that whole process was um, I was as chair responsible for figuring out who was interested in being in the pool and so I reached out to anyone who submitted a uh A um community activity forum over the past two years and said hey Remember two years ago when you said you wanted me on the zba. You're still interested now if they said yes I didn't they're not required to submit a new caf. They don't get a new caf They just say yes, I'm still interested. We said okay, and they go into the pool And then the cafs were forwarded to the town council So you didn't get the caf of every person who had ever applied over the past two years Because some of them were no longer interested some of them had moved. Um, you get the cafs of people who were in the pool So under this process What would be different is the chair would reach out to those people and they would say yes, i'm interested No, i'm not interested. We'd collect the pool the people who are in the pool who confirm. They're still interested would say They would be the ones who would submit a statement of interest And then the statement of interest would all be posted publicly and sent to the counselors So you wouldn't necessarily have the statement of interest of every person who applied over the past three years because some of those People might not be interested in they applied at one time, but they're no longer interested in serving or they moved But you would have the statement of interest of every person who applied Who is currently interested in being appointed to that body? So it's not like a pick and choose who so i's every person who's going to be interviewed every person who is confirmed They're interested in being appointed would be required to submit an so i and those so i's would be sent To all counselors and also to the posted for the public Okay Yeah Okay, me and joe let's have a final comment and then we're going to move on just going to be quick Two things one is the whole two-year three-year not everyone's getting it is easily solved at the beginning of every council term The clerk of the council can go back into the cafs that have been submitted under those forms for the last Three years at that point or whatever and forward them all to every new every councillor that is currently sworn in at that term So that concern is something that is easily rectified because there are electronic records and can be distributed at any time to any new um I want to remind the council that we are going to be asked to be voting on the calf amendment And not the process oka adopted Um, and it seems like much of this conversation has resulted It has been around the process and not the calf amendment oka gets its own process We have to decide what the calf says. Thank you Right this will appear on the uh Agenda on the 18th We're moving on to committee reports anything from crc mandy joe Nothing new Andy finance No, nothing tonight george gl Nothing tonight Uh jcpc kathy No, nothing Oka avan Uh, just that we're meeting next week and we're going to start to put it together Uh, the selection. I know it feels like we just did appointments because we did but we're going to start putting together selection guidance Um and talking about the pool for planning board reappointments So you should expect an email from me in the very near future Soliciting questions for interview questions for planning board Okay, tso darcy Um We were supposed to have uh an appointment Before this report. It was done as part of the consent agenda Well, oh it was Yes Okay Great well, congratulations, sarah Um, uh, no, I don't really We we had our second, um Presentation on the wage theft bylaws and um, we haven't finished with that yet and then we'll be We'll have the farmers market on the agenda for the next meeting And that next meeting is when? We don't know. Okay. Thank you. Um Town managers report mr. Bachman Um, I gave a pretty thorough report last week and this is just an update report one week ago. So it's not much to add Um, I want to alert the public to the fact that we are going to be um Having a starting up our district meetings Uh, the very first one is actually going to be on may 11th And that's district four and it will be at 7 30 the information will be on the bulletin board And please watch the bulletin board for others because they will start occurring the week of may 18 um, I With regard to office hours, I think individual counselors should do however they see fit with their own office hours or together They can use personal phone numbers zoom numbers, whatever um The expectations of the calendar for the rest of 2020 Um, I'm still wrestling with this one Uh, and counselors will be part of agenda setting. I still need to get back to you on that Uh, I have no further discussion. Uh, are there counselor comments? Yes, Darcy I just wanted to say that our district five meeting is going to be on may 28th at 6 p.m on say Pat I'd like to wish andy a happy birthday You beat me to it 39 again andy, right? That's absolutely Thank you I get our way. Maybe I should say, um 27 again or something. I have dyslexia, you know, I really don't but that's okay Uh, any items or comments? Andy? No Okay Uh, we have no executive unanticipated issues executive session therefore the meeting is adjourned at 10 minutes 10 o'clock and 11 minutes. Thank you. Bye


So, welcome to this session in which we now have this young man sitting with me who had posed a question in the previous session. And I would like him to answer the question with a little prompting from me at points. So, he had posed a very important question. We had looked at several properties in the context of continuous systems namely, additivity, homogeneity, shift invariance, causality, stability and the natural question that we have is, do these properties make sense in the context of discrete systems? I am going to ask him to explain what he thinks additivity would mean in the context of discrete systems. So, Pratik, what would you think? How would you try and map additivity as a concept in the context of discrete systems? Please make an effort and I will prompt you. So, extrapolating from the continuous systems case, I would expect the discrete systems to also follow the same logic. So, suppose you have a system which takes an input x of n and gives an output y of n. So, if x1 and x2 are two inputs and y1 and y2 are the corresponding outputs, then if we give the input x of n equal to x1 of n plus x2 of n to the system and if the output is y of n is equal to y1 of n plus y2 n for all x1 and x1 of n and x2 of n, then the system as should be. Very good Pratik. That is a very good explanation. In fact, Pratik is very rightly observed that you could take the same idea from continuous systems. So, you have three experiments really to be done. You apply an input x1 n and ask for its output y1 n. You input x2 n and ask for its output y2 n and then you input x1 n plus x2 n. Remember, in these three times you are inputting different signals. So, different discrete, it is not just points, it is not just numbers. In fact, let me write that down clearly. So, what I am saying essentially is firstly, we like to adopt a different nomenclature. So, signals in discrete variable we will call sequences. So, xn is the input sequence. Now, the word sequence makes sense because it is a sequence of values indexed by the integers. So, the word sequence, you understand Pratik? Sequence because unlike the continuous case where there is a continuum of values, you now have a discrete set. So, you can talk about the next one and the previous one. You could not do it in the context of continuous systems. So, therefore, you have xn as the input sequence and yn as the output sequence. So, we will use that word henceforth. So, as Pratik said, I have this discrete system, let me call it s as he did. I apply x1n, of course Pratik abbreviated it, but I would not do that. I will say x1n produced y1n and then in the same system x2n produced y2n and when the same system was given x1n and x2n added up as the input sequence, then what was produced was y1n plus y2n and this happens for all possible x1, x2. This is very important. This is something which Pratik said which we must stress and emphasize. You see, you cannot just look at one particular, I have told you this before. You cannot just look at one particular instance of an x1, x2, look at what happens and then come to a conclusion. When you want to prove a statement, it must be proved independent of context or example. However, when you want to disprove it, suppose you want to show a system is not additive, it is adequate to take one counter example. If you wish to prove that everybody in a state is truthful, by looking at one truthful person, you cannot come to that conclusion. But if you wish to prove that that is not true, then looking at one liar is enough. That property holds here too. Anyway, now Pratik, you have given a formal explanation. Can you also take the tax example, you know the state where there was a tax levied on a service and explain physically what this additivity property would mean? So the tax example was, let me explain the tax example here. The tax example was that you had a service being provided by the state and that service of course was applied, the tax applied for that service was true in all the states where it was given and the tax was applied for two intervals. In the first interval, alpha tax was applied, you know per person to whom service was provided and beta tax was applied for the second interval and for two intervals there was tax after that there was no tax, right? And x of n was the population in the nth instant or nth interval during which you are making a tax calculation. So you remember that we had this very simple relationship here, y of n which was the tax collected by the state was alpha times xn, the tax paid in the first interval times the population in that particular interval plus beta times x of n minus 1. Now please take this and explain what additivity means here. So let us consider two states, both of which have the same tax rules. If x1 of n is the population in the first state for the nth interval and x2 of n is the population in the second state for the same nth interval, then we can see this property in the following way. Suppose s is the system, that is the way of calculating. Sir you said s is the system that collects tax, that collects tax state wise. So if x of n is the total is the population of both the states together then that will be equal to x1 of n plus x2 of n. Now we want to find out what the tax collected will be for the same interval. So from the previous slide we can see that y of n should be equal to alpha times x of n plus beta times x of n minus 1. So putting in the value of x of n which is equal to x1 of n plus x2 of n, then we can see that we can split it up into alpha of x1 of n plus alpha x2 of n plus beta x1 n minus 1 plus beta x2 n minus 2, n minus 1. That's right, now aggregate the terms. So this is alpha of x1 of n plus beta of x1 of n minus 1 plus alpha of x2 of n plus beta x2 n minus 1. Very good, that's correct. Which we can see is. Now give this to me, what is this real? So this actually is y1 of n and this is y2 of n. So this actually is an additive system because given two inputs, if you sum them up, outputs also get summed up. Very good. So this is true for any x1 and x2 of n. That is right. So this s is additive. Very good, that's a beautiful illustration, it's all congratulate Pratik on this. So we will see more about these properties in the next discussion. Thank you.


Hi everyone Joe for jaspyscasebrakes.com coming at you with 2020 Panini prism football Hobby edition two-box random team break number nine from jaspyscasebrakes.com 16 spots right there one spot gets you two teams in a two-box break Alright and big thanks to these teams right here Let's roll it. Let's randomize it six and a five eleven times for each list one two three four five six seven eight nine Ten and finally 11th and final time after 11 will down to Danny Think you're the next one Rob William down to a couple Danny's and Then six and a five eleven times for the teams two Three and 11 the final time after 11. We've got the Buffalo Bills down to the Tennessee Titans All right, so William with the Buffalo Bills Joe with the Cardinals Anthony with the Vikings James with the Texans Brian with the Steelers Gale with the Panthers Brett with the Giants William with the Chargers Anthony with the Patriots Sean with the Raiders Danny with the Browns James with the Colts Jason with the Jets Brett with the Chiefs Joe with the Lions Bangles for Brian Jared with the Jaguars Eric with the Cowboys Anthony with the Niners Gale with the Falcons Eric with the Ravens Patrick with the Broncos Sean with the Buccaneers Danny with the Seahawks Jason with the Dolphins Jared with the Saints Patrick with the Bears Anthony with the Eagles William with the Washington football team and the Green Bay Packers and Danny with the Rams and the Titans Now trades are allowed in this little two box break Sort by column B right here by team I'm gonna pause video. We're gonna allow for a little bit of trading time. I'm gonna go run and grab the boxes I'll be right back. All right. Welcome back everybody a Little bit of trade chatter, but in the end no deals are done. That is all good though Thanks everyone who got into the action appreciate it Remember we mark those X's right there for the two box breaks Clemson Virginia Tech on the background It was close for the first half. I think now now Clemson's up 45-10 With four minutes for three and a half minutes left in the fourth quarter I don't know whether other games are on that. I don't need to watch Are we watching that movie on Disney plus safety? I have no idea what that's about But I think it's about an inspirational story of a safety at Clemson. That's all I know But I don't know anything else about it. We've got Damon Arnett to 249 orange and here are your rookies right here. So we're sleeving all the rookies We'll set those aside for a little bit later We've got rendez-barber to 75 green scope remember all card ship so Even if I miss something Everything will ship. There's Warren Moon. There's our first Justin Herbert right there That's to 49 That'll be for the Titans that'll be for Danny and There's our first base Justin Herbert for the Chargers that'll be for William got randomized the Chargers in this one That's not bad Not a bad team there And we've got hyper Kirk Cousins to 175 It's for the Vikings and we got Christian Fulton and Denzel Mims base rookie cards Hunter Renfro silver Christian Kirk to 199 Trayquan Smith and OJ Howard red wave To 149 We've got Paris Campbell to 149 to 49 that is orange Kenneth Murray CJ Henderson And we've got Anthony Gordon green scope autograph for Seattle Danny with the Hawks of the sea I think he went to college at Washington State I don't know where that's located in Washington, but He didn't go very far Went to Seattle miles Boykin to 125 That'll be for the Ravens Grab that penny sleeve there It's in a go Cougs as bread Pullman Washington how far away is that Pullman to Seattle? What's the? What's the distance there? Where's where's he from? Anthony Gordon is from Pacifica, California Which is in northern, California and then he went You go to high school. Yeah, you went to high school out there, too Then went to City College for a bit then transferred to Washington State And then was behind Gardner Minshew for a little bit and then from college He just went four and a half hours To to Seattle. He didn't have to really go very far It's Jerry Judy nice one for Denver my rivals Pat with the Broncos Red Wave autograph Jerry Judy and that is To 149 71 out of 149 and there's to a There's Daryon to Nevant and a base to a For Miami, that'll be for Jason Siebert. There's Leonard for net To 99 How'd you know that to was gonna pop? Is there are other patterns sleeve these rookies up really quick? Herbert and to are always in the same box interesting and how do we know when a Joe burrow is coming? Jerry Judy the fate of Jerry Judy and Henry rugs. I think we'll always be tied together and there are some people saying that the Raiders should have taken Jerry Judy or vice versa and Burrow is not when a Herbert and to a show up All right, that makes sense All right second and final box and random team number nine number nine number nine Number nine You know what I'm happy for the I'm happy for the cardboard cutout industry. I'm happy for them you know in this in these crazy and these It's crazy and troubling pandemic times Where a lot of business are being adversely affected The old cardboard cutout company Those guys must been having it must be having a banner year. I'm just talking about Gardner. Minchie. There he is Gabriel Davis to 175 Iber for William and Buffalo and there's Akeem Nix to do 49 Right. Good job cardboard companies, you know making some good cardboard cutouts Thriving in the time of the pandemic. Oh some gold It's a gold Henry rugs Three out of ten for Henry rugs the third that card is gold That'll be for the Las Vegas Raiders Sean Maddock got randomized my Raiders No Josh Jacobs Against the Jets. So maybe more a little more of him And some some screenplays maybe some some running plays some trick plays that kind of act as runs It's got a lot of speed pretty exciting I think he's on the on the cusp of breaking out.   We got Michael Warren To 199 Joe Burrow and Derek Brown Michael Warren blue wave goes to Anthony Joe Burrow base goes to Brian K and there's Kyle Dugger to 149 red wave autograph for the Patriots Tried to trade couldn't trade mojo for Anthony Jerry Rice to 249 Danucci and Blacklock And a Henry rugs autograph this time nice got the gold and now the auto Let's go Henry rugs 300 yards receiving confirmed Three catches 300 yards. Just going the distance every time and there's Kyle Dugger again 57 out of 75 No worries Sean. Thanks for getting in. I mean the Raiders did draft rugs to be their Tyree kills, so That's what they're trying to turn them into and there you have it ladies gentlemen, that's a quick relatively quick two box break of Prism football hobby addition that was random team break number nine I'm gonna leave up all these all these rookie cards after I stopped the video But thanks for watching. Thanks for breaking with us more in the store on jaskiescasebreaks.com. Bye. Bye


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Hey everybody, Dylan Schumacher, Citadel Defense, and today we're going to talk about weapons caches. Weapons caches, weapons cache, operational cache, operation cache, however you want to pronounce it, whatever term you want to use, that's what we're going to talk about here. So here I'm going to show you in a minute my kind of layout that I've made for my first weapons cache, and there's two goals for me for this weapons cache. One is to have all the equipment, all the tools I would need for the fight. So I'm not talking about things that are important, but things like extra socks, or food, or water, or change of clothes, or a coat, or stuff like that. That's not the goal of this cache. Are all of those things important and valid? Yes, but that's not what's included here. This is just simply the tools for the fight. What I would need so I could get enough gear on that's necessary in order to win the fight, whatever that may or may not be. Okay, so you got to keep that in mind. There are the parameters of this weapons cache. The second purpose of this weapons cache is I'm going to store this in a location where I go to classes semi-regularly so that I no longer have to transport firearms and equipment and ammo and all that stuff to the location in order to take classes. So the goal in that is then to have a bunch of stuff there so that I can just show up. I can worry about transporting a bunch of guns and everything and all my stuff's there. And I can just take a class and take classes there. So it's a two-fold purpose that I'm going to have for this weapons cache, right? Primary purpose and primary use, hopefully, is going to be classes. Secondary use would be that if I needed it, I can have all the tools for the fight that are going to be accessible in this weapons cache. So you got to understand that as we're going through it because you could comment like, well, you don't have this or that or the other thing or a flying helicopter or an emergency parachute or whatever. And that's true and those things are great, but you can only have so many things. And like I said, this is a purpose and parameters around what this is. Third note or second note, whatever I'm number I'm on. When you're building one of these and you're thinking about one of these through for yourself, I would first invite you to identify the purpose, right? What are you trying to accomplish here? It can be as simple as like a pistol and two mags and a couple boxes of ammo, you know, and stuff that in a little bag and that can be your weapons cache, right? Like it just, what's the purpose? What are you trying to accomplish with it? That that's important to understand what you want to do with it. To just store guns and store guns, maybe that's what you want to do, maybe that's what you're going to do, I don't know. But have an idea of what it is that you're trying to accomplish, okay? And the second thing I would invite you to do is to consider laying out all of your stuff on the floor or on a big tarp outside or something like that. So you can see it all at once. That's a, that's the thing they do in the military.  But you lay everything out on a tarp, right? You put a tarp out on the grass. You'll lay everything out that you're going to take on that mission. So you can just see everything in one spot. And that's a really good way to determine what's needed to realize what's missing. I laid all this stuff out. I thought I had everything. And then I realized, oh, I'm missing a couple of things. So I made a list, went and grabbed some more stuff. And then laid it all out and looked at it again. So, again, that's just a helpful device to try to figure out when you're figuring out what should be in your kit. I mean, that'd be a good way to look through that. And, or, you know, in this case, my weapons cache and what should be in the weapons cache. Just lay it all out on the floor and get a really good visual understanding of what is and isn't here.  And decide, oh, yeah, no, I am missing this or I am missing that or whatever. That could help you out. So that's just a advice tip that hopefully you find helpful. And without further ado, let's get to the weapons cache and I will show you what I'm going to put in my weapons cache. First up, as far as bags go and what all this stuff's going to go in. I have a old, max-pedition kind of side satchel pouch. I think this is the Fatboy, I think this is called. I can't honestly remember. I have a video on this on the channel, but this is a good bag. I don't use it a whole lot anymore, though. And the idea here is that I want a bag that I can just kind of all around town in and or just a smaller gear bag to be able to carry some of the stuff if I decide to do it that way. So that's what that is for. I have a larger backpack, some cheaper Amazon nylon backpack thing that I got off Amazon, obviously. And purpose there is, of course, to just carry all the other stuff that won't fit in a gun bag. I have a video on this on the channel as well, but this is a double rifle case. And this is going to be the primary bag that kind of holds and supports everything that will be in the cache right here. First up, of course, is we have a rifle because you need one of those, right? So this rifle actually is a Franken gun. I had my buddy Peter over at Whiskey Outpost, Whiskey Outpost Minnesota, if you're in the market for a rifle, put it together for me. I had bought the lower years ago and I just let him kind of do whatever he wanted to put the rest of the gun together. This is what I ended up with and then I painted it. So this is the rifle that's going to go in there. I got a Surefire light on here and then a Aimpoint pro up top. I'm going to run a two-point thing on this particular rifle. For a pistol, I have a Smith & Wesson M&P with a TLR-1 on it. This is one of the old M&P 9s. This is like the original, I don't know if it's Gen 1, it's probably Gen 2 of the kind of original M&P 9s. Not the two-point, it was just the original M&P 9. And it used to be a buddy of mine's gun and I purchased it from him. But he stippled the grip and did some other things, put the nicer trigger in there. And I added the TLR-1, which currently works, that's good. So that'll be the pistol Ameriglo Sight. This is Ameriglo Sights on this thing. I'll carry that in a Bravo Concealment outside the waistband holster. I have a Bravo Concealment 2-mag pouch, which in retrospect, I probably sure just went with a single mag pouch. But the double mag pouch works fine. Just gets a little tiresome if you're going to wear it for a long period of time. Bravo Concealment AR pouch. I'll take four mags for the pistol. I got a couple zip ties here just to tie down random gear and whatever. For the rifle, I want the six mags. So that allows for one in the gun, one in the pouch, and then four in the chest rig. Chest rig is a Haley strategic chest rig. It's one of the original versions. They got rid of this kind of weird pouch that I never can do anything with in the newer versions. Just gave it two more pistol pouches. That was probably a smart upgrade. But this is one of the old ones. I don't use it a lot anymore, so it's going to go in the weapon stash here. Extra batteries for the lights, because that's needed. Extra battery for the Aimpoint Pro. Sharpie, because you need that. Couple extra plastic baggies. A little pouch just to collect all the small stuff. Schmog. This is a med kit. So this is a med kit from AR500 Armor. Used to be in my battle belt. Took it off there, because I'm not going to need it any longer. There's a tourniquet in here, some chest seals, some gauze. I'm adding an Israeli bandage and just one set of gloves. For ammo management, I'm going to store an ammo can that will hold these. The big 51s will hold about 1,000 rounds of AR, case you don't know that. And the smaller ones will hold about 1,000 rounds of 9. So for ammo storage, I'm going to utilize those two cans. Gloves, because you should wear gloves when you're shooting a bunch. Cleaning rag, right here, just general cleaning stuff. Cleaning kit. So this is an AR-centric cleaning kit. Toothbrush, lube, cleaning rod, stuff like that. Really, between the rag and the toothbrush is really what I'm going to use to clean most of the guns. I probably won't clean the barrels on most of these guns and just kind of let them cure and try that theory out. Just a basic utility blade here. This is a Dozer by K-Bar. It's a good little pocket knife, it's like 20 bucks. Don't use it a whole lot anymore. I've had some other things that I EBC, so this is going to go in here because that'll be a good little utility blade. Set of ears, Howard Light, the one that everyone has. Right, great set of ears. And that's it, that's my whole weapons cache. All right, well that's it. That's my weapons cache. If you don't like it, cry me a river, leave a bad comment, I don't really care. It's mine, it's not yours. So you can build a better one and you can post a video and show that to me, it'll be great. But I hope that's helpful, hope that gives you some ideas and a better understanding of kind of what you might want to include in yours, what you might not want to include in yours, what the purpose of yours would be. Again, I think that's very important. Without that, it's really hard to build a weapons cache because I don't, without a purpose, what an idea of where you're going, it's hard to get there, right? That's all I got for you. Do brave deeds and endure.