Oh, here comes Tony. Why don't you show it to him? Say a fine-looking boy. That's a bird. Yeah, and you know what already? He can say Uncle Athelbert Uncle Athelbert Well, well, but you know the day I'll be excited is when he learns to say the anchor-hawking glass cooperation is a great name in glass Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is Tony Marvin every week at this time the anchor-hawking glass cooperation of Lancaster, Ohio And it's more than 10,000 employees bring you another adventure of Casey crime photographer ace cameraman who covers the crime news of a great city Written by Alonzo Dean Cole our adventure for tonight the mysterious lodger About 10 o'clock in a private office at police headquarters a telephone rings a big man in civilian clothes reaches for its receiver and I'm a sad euro captain Logan speaking Is this a place to report a murder? It is lady. I think I got one for you. Who's this speaking? I'm Maggie Myers to be really proper I'm Mrs. John Robney Myers. I'm a widow. Now. What's the address 1139 Midland Street 1139 Midland That's right. It's my larger a lady who roams with me who's been killed I think oh what makes you think that well you get out here and look through the keyhole of the door Like I just did and you'll see now we'll be there right away. Mrs. Myers. I'll be waiting for you. Goodbye Sergeant Flanigan, yes captain tell the tech squad and a doc to follow us to 1139 Midland Street Are you go with me? Yes, what happened to 1139 Midland Street, huh Casey? What are you two doing here? Don't we usually drop in to acquire what's happening in the murder department? It seems we picked just the right time today.  Hmm. I'll park right behind him. Hey, this is a crummy neighborhood, Annie Yeah, we're not gonna get any front-page stuff here. Oh, look The little old woman just came out of that door. Are you Mrs. Myers? That's me Maggie Myers. Mrs. John Robney Myers. Well, I'm Captain Logan. This is Sergeant Flanigan How to do please to meet you and come in remember we're in this party to Logan Who says followed with a picture park just a press photographer, Mrs. Myers pay no attention to him Oh, you're here to take pictures of me with your brownie young man my brat Definitely, Mrs. Myers. Oh come in young man and make yourself to home you and your lady friend both Oh, and be sure and wipe your feet on the mat.  It's the only room I rent out the only room I got to rent matter of fact sergeant Take a squint through this keel See if you see what I'm seeing. It's only four rooms in this place Polly kitchen and front and back bedrooms. There's a dame lying on the floor in there captain and I'd say she'd been stabbed I used to have a nice big house when my husband was alive six rooms and bath. I will break in the door Pay for that. No, we can't think of that now lady together planning it One pushes all the door like that needs Hey, there's dame on the floor stone core. It's been dead brawer Look at this knife in her back captain pushed into the hill hold it everybody Thanks, thank you.  Myers? Yes Alice Patrick at least that's what she told me Such a nice quiet woman. She wasn't and she paid a rent so regular. I want to hear all you know about her very soon Now she's a big girl about 45 Only a husky guy could have driven that knife so deeply into her back that was done with one clean stroke Surge yeah took muscle to do that captain got any idea who was in this room with your larger last night mrs Myers no I haven't junkman miss Patrick come home alone about eight o'clock last night said good evening And then she went into a room and I heard her lock the door Oh, where did you find that she'd been killed? Well when it got near ten o'clock this morning and her door was still shut I've begun to get a little worried why cuz I did that's why Yeah Go on please well finally I called her and she didn't answer then I did what any woman would do it look through the keyhole After that I run out the corner store where there's a phone and called you This door wasn't only locked on the inside of the key lock and it was fastened with a bolt I told you not to come in here casey. I'm only poking my head around the door frame The killer never left this room by the door captain. That's pretty obvious miss Williams. He used that winner He couldn't have done that captain that wind is locked. This is Myers. It's open two inches from the bottom. I say it's locked I know my own house try it. Okay It is locked in this position locked from the inside by them spring bolts in the frame Miss Patrick always left it like that at night open enough to get fresh air But not open enough so even a cat could get in Somebody stabbed miss Patrick in a room they couldn't get out of but how it's very simple. Oh, it is Can I come into the room pal? I'll watch my step. No, come on. Thanks. Now look This is an old-fashioned type of window without counterweights To raise or lower the sash you pull out two spring catches on the side Well the round spring bolts in the sash snap into holes in the casing and lock When they hit those holes Which can be prevented? Probably to delay discovery of the body the killer wanted to leave the window as he found it open about two inches So he he ran a pair of thin strips or something Maybe maybe cardboard between the sash and the casement climbed outside lowered the window Pulled out his strips and let the spring locks shoot into place It could have been done that way easy captain.  Yes, sir There's urgent that sounds like the tech squad outside.  Yes, sir. Oh, Mrs. Myers I how long have you known miss Patrick only two months since she rented my room. She was a very mysterious woman Mysterious serious captain mysterious Now there's some of what you've been saying Mrs. Myers this woman Alice Patrick answered an advertisement you put in the paper Yes, sir. It said refined lady has pleasant furnished room to rent an own That's beside the party. I decided to take a larger captain not so much because I needed the money Though I could use it of course as because I get kind of lonesome And I figured having another woman in the house gone over that the point Mrs. Myers is that this woman never told you anything about herself. That's why I say she was mysterious captain Most women do tell things women like to talk I see that another thing She never went out of the house without leaving her suitcase locked. How did you discover that? How do you suppose I discovered it? Sergeant Flanigan Sergeant yes, sir bring that suitcase here if the tech man or finish with it. Okay, captain I'm just coming out for you the doctor like to have you in there for a minute. All right. Excuse me, Mrs. Myers. I'll be right back Say, uh, Mrs. Myers whose picture is this on the wall? It's this beautiful woman Believe it or not. Mr. Casey. That was me 50 years ago. You know, I figured it was No, I'm all wrinkled and shrunk up Your face still has the nice lines of the girls in this picture. Are you just kidding? But it's nice of you to do it. Oh, really. I'm not kidding. My husband John used to say pretty things like that John's been dead now for 14 years Tell us about yourself and your husband Mrs. Myers. Well, I probably don't look like much to you now But John and me was once somebodies.  I Wasn't a very good one. I guess but I looked real good in tights My husband was a real soap. Nobody though. What'd he do John Rodney Myers was educated He wrote a book. Yeah about historical things. There's the book. He wrote on my table. May I look at it? Yes, but handle it careful. It's old and not very strong like me. I'll be careful Let me see Casey Hmm Arms and armor of the Middle Ages. Oh, he was an authority on such things Colleges and museums used to ask for his opinion He knew all about battle axes and swords and newspapers and magazines used to mention his name and mine too You might mention that when you write your piece. I will Mrs. Myers very interesting Oh He is that dreaded captain back here. Mrs. Myers Don't you know of any big or very strong people who were associated with Miss Patrick? Well, I don't know if you'd call my next-door neighbor associated with her, but I know he's been bothering her How was he bothering her?  She wants to marry Sam Mulvey. You're finally telling me something that may help my investigation Have you looked into a suitcase yet? No, but I've got it here also the key my man found it in the dead woman's purse Let's open it up. Yeah, I am Hmm Only a few papers in there. We'll see what they're Casey hey, I've seen papers like that one before it's a parolees discharge from Avon prison name of Alice Patrick I've Alice I say she's the game.  I never would have dreamed Now I can imagine why she was afraid of that man Man what man the mysterious miss is my lady will you please talk straight She told me if this man ever came to the house. I was to say she didn't live here She described him to me and one day he did come I seen him watching the house And when I told it she liked to die at a fright now you tell me about this Well, you didn't ask me about the mysterious man before Course now I figure he was a detective who was watching her Mrs. Myers Let me figure hold it power. Wait a minute. Mrs. Myers. Will you describe the mysterious man to us course? I will boy.  She's described each early the brother of the rat that Alice Ives killed He's paid that day more for knifeing his brother. Casey. This will be a story and You'll be in it to Mrs. Myers as the star witness We're on your hat and coat Mrs. Myers We're going to headquarters where you can look at Pete Shirley's picture and if you identify him this case will be all washed up That's the picture of the man I saw captain the man miss Patrick was afraid of Sergeant Flanagan get out a pickup order on Scarface Pete Shirley have them brought in here and quick. Yes Boys have got Pete Shirley captain. Well, Sergeant. That's quick work Flanagan Bring him in here. I don't think you like him in your private office the way he is captain What do you mean?  He's dead. Yeah, he got killed trying to pull a hold up last night Captain, and he was pulling that hold up over in Woodsfield at the very time Alice Ives was being stabbed here. You You're sure the boys just brought him into the morgsa There goes my case against Pete Shirley and my beautifully corny story about her brother's revenge The death of mrs. Myers larger is becoming a mystery after all a Few nights ago. I had dinner with a friend whose wife is one of the best cooks I know and I asked her if she used fire king oven glass Well, she said she did and then she continued, you know, Tony I find the most important thing about fire king oven glass is that it practically ensures results Because it bakes foods quickly evenly and all the way through well then I asked well Tell me how about the fact that fire king oven glass saved so much time in the kitchen?  I'm sorry. Try me again sometime I always hate to turn them salesman down Casey, but as my sister Edna says quote Them as buys everything from everybody pretty soon ain't able to buy nothing from nobody Uncalled Yeah Besides my neck gets tired watching the darn thing now. What was we talking about before that guy come in? I wasn't talking about anything at the bird. I was sitting here quietly trying to dope out the fifth race Drinking pelicans button the fifth. Oh, oh, no, I remembered that old mrs.   She gets the chance, but you can't help it like her It sounds like my sister, you know Casey. She talks all the time. She's the one that's not married. Yeah Say, uh, what's new on the murder of that Alice Patrick Ives day? Ethelbert you read the express don't you? I mean inside stuff. Oh, not a thing at the bird The only case Logan had blew up when it was proven that Pete Shirley couldn't have done the job Well, how about that neighbor the big guy who tried to make a play for the dead gal before she was dead? I mean Sam Mulvey. Yeah Logan still suspicious of him, but Mulvey didn't have sufficient motor for my dough He's notorious in the neighborhood for a nasty temper Casey, and he's a heavy drinker Also, he's more than strong enough to have driven a knife through that woman's body. Yeah Wonder why the handle of that knife was roughened at the end Ruffin yeah, like somebody had run a coarse file across it. Well, it wasn't a new knife Probably been kicked around in a workshop or somebody's kitchen. I guess so no luck in tracing the knife, huh? Yeah, a little bit the Ives Dame was in prison a long time Don't you figure she might have made an enemy there who bumped her off? Well, Logan's checking on that fairy-pal you know That window being locked two inches from the bottom that bothers me. Well now why oh why should the killer take the time to do that? Nobody was likely to notice whether that window was closed or open But after the killer made his getaway it didn't matter There was no darn reason for that window Hey, there's always a reason for everything Excuse me, Annie. I'll see you later. Where are you going? I'm gonna take a walk and think Casey, I'm delighted to see you. Thanks, Mrs. Myers and be sure and wipe your feet on the mat Yes, I remember coming the parlor and set if you don't mind must some of my neighbors was in and they Wanted to hear first-hand about poor miss Patrick. They just left and I ain't had time to clear up the tea things we used Oh, can I give you a cup of tea? Oh, no, thank you It won't take but a minute the tea just isn't my dish. I'll make you coffee. I can get along without coffee, too Young fella. I haven't got anything else. Mrs. Myers. I came here for a talk not a drink. Oh, that's fine I like to talk. Yeah, I'd like to have people want to talk to you. I guess everybody wants that Especially persons who are once somebody as you were. Oh, I was never much just an actress without much talent But my husband was really the somebody indeed. He was I stopped at the public library this afternoon and looked over his book Arms and armor of the Middle Ages. Oh, you did. Mm-hmm. I'm afraid it was a little over my head It was interesting. Don't you think? Yes, it gave me an idea.  No No, Mrs. Myers young man. I Wage us 91 pounds in my heaviest coat and winter galoshes Are you saying I drove a knife completely through that big woman? Uh-huh, and you did it from outside of her locked window How could I do that with one of the medieval weapons your husband wrote about the kind? He says could throw an arrow or a spear at a knife with accuracy silence and great force The window was open two inches. The knife was shot through that opening You figured you were creating really a great mystery The woman stabbed in the back in a completely locked room that that appeal to the dramatic instinct an actress never loses You're pretty smart young man You know, I never figured that window could be shut and locked from the outside the way you said You kind of spoiled the mystery you admit you killed miss Patrick. Oh, of course. I don't I'm just talking It's nice to talk even on a crazy subject Why in your opinion did I kill that woman? Well, I guess in order to get attention The attention you've been without for years. Oh, I have been very lonesome. I've wanted folks to notice me again, but Do you think that's a good enough motive for what you say I've done? It wouldn't have been for you if you hadn't learned your mysterious lodge. It was a freed murderous After you found that out probably by getting into the locked suitcase and seeing her parole papers You considered her life of no value at all. She was a bad woman I went to the library and got old newspapers and read up about our case And that's how you found out about Scarface Pete Shirley the brother of the guy she killed I even come across some pictures of him. He never came here looking for miss Patrick as you said No, but that seemed a good story to tell the cops Yeah, well, I guess you're ready now to tell the true story to the cops Mrs. Myer there ain't been much in the papers about me during the last couple of days and next week There wouldn't be anything maybe and folks had stopped calling on me and I'd be alone again By me telling the cops I won't be forgotten so quick and you'll put more pictures of me in the paper, son Yes, indeed. We'll go down to headquarters right now Don good idea. You've given me young fella. I'll get my coat. Wait a minute What what do you mean that I've given you a good idea? Say look here wait a minute. Am I wrong about this? Did you kill that woman? No Say miss it Mrs. Myers if you're if you're not really guilty if you're going to confess to something you didn't do Wait a minute. You can't do that. I say you can't do that. I couldn't do What's that in your hands the thing that killed miss Patrick But you you're gonna point it at me. That's right. I'm gonna let you have it now There's nothing I can do to stop you.  It's heavy.  It's the evidence you needed you didn't have none before Mrs. Myers Yeah, yeah, you sure did I could fool folks right away bet I get you guessing again before we're through Surveys show that housewives almost without exception Preferred to buy foods and other household products packed in glass containers. Their reasons are many and varied But chief among them are five important facts One glass containers have no effect on the taste of the food. 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It's not like the longbows used by Robin Hood and the American Indian Well, the principle is the same but it's different Annie See this gimmick is a short bow set across a hunk of wood that looks like a rifle stuck Was made to shoot short arrows or bolts as they were called The thing is an antique that Mrs. Myers husband picked up simply I see poor old lady So lonesome she committed murder to get attention What'll be done with her as she's in an institution of her Where she'll be perfectly happy because attention is something she's sure to get for the rest of her life Out of her mind, huh? Yeah, so the doc say in the legal definition poor old lady Think of the poor doctors and nurses. I wonder what you're pulling them Annie. I I wish I was sure What she's already pulled What do you mean? I'm never gonna be sure that she used that crossbow That she really is a murderous I'll never be sure that she Hasn't played me for a job to get what she wanted the death of the mysterious lodger is still a mystery, maybe Etelbert, I don't think so, but oh Nuts, let's see what's good in the fifth. 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Donald Trump is completely and utterly just exhausting.    He's just saying all of this to distract you or he's playing four-dimensional chess I don't know what to tell you Donald Trump says and does stupid things because Donald Trump is a stupid person Now the latest thing that he said according to Jonathan Swan and Margaret Telev of Axios President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior homeland security and national security officials that they explore Using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States According to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council Memorandum that recorded those comments during one hurricane briefing at the White House Trump said I got it I got it. Why don't we nuke them according to one source who was there? They start forming off the coast of Africa as they're moving across the Atlantic We drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it Why can't we do that? The source added paraphrasing the president's remarks Trump also raised the idea in another conversation with a senior administration official a 2017 NSC memo describes that second conversation in which Trump asked whether the administration should bomb hurricanes To stop them from hitting the homeland a source briefed on the NSC memo said it does not contain the word nuclear It just says the president talked about bombing hurricanes The briefer was knocked back on his heels the source in the room added you could hear a nath fart in that meeting People were astonished after the meeting ended. We thought what the F. What do we do with this? Yeah, how do you not just laugh at him if he seriously? Suggest this like if he's being facetious and he's saying why don't we just nuke the hurricanes? Ho ho that's a totally different story, but He's being serious here. He's literally suggesting that we nuke hurricanes to stop them this is Basically idiocracy that movie was not supposed to be a documentary. It wasn't supposed to be a prediction It was just supposed to be entertainment But Donald Trump is that movie personified when the president couldn't figure out why all of the crops across the country Were dying because they started using gatorade to water the plants That's Donald Trump in a nutshell. He is that movie idiocracy personified because I mean how else do you explain this? He's literally seriously saying why don't we stop hurricanes by nuking them?  It's so insane that any reasonable adult who has two functioning brain cells that are working Would just laugh at that, but this is the president the man with his finger on the nuclear button who is literally saying hey guys What are we doing? Why haven't we nuked hurricane jet?  I mean, I honestly don't know what to say. I'm speechless now To be fair Trump is not the first person to promote this idiotic idea because a government scientist back in the Eisenhower Administration had previously floated this idea Hey, maybe we can nuke hurricanes and stop them that way and ever since that was floated The idea has kind of taken up a life of its own and idiots thought it was so brilliant that till this day They can't let it go and it's become such a prominent idea that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Literally had to address this on their fact page explaining that there is no evidence Suggesting that a nuclear bomb could alter a storm at all But most importantly the resulting radioactive fallout obviously that would spread pretty quickly Would make matters exponentially worse fast and the fact that this has to be explained to people is Embarrassing, but I mean it honestly like I shouldn't be too shocked because we are living in an era where flat Earthers chemtrail conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers are all like gaining popularity gaining ground So I mean this probably is the least crazy out of all those ideas But nonetheless, it's still an idiotic and childish Assumption to even think that bombing a hurricane would work at all and not cause more damage Even if it could get the hurricane to dissipate. I mean, what do you think would happen? Do you think that we'd be okay if the hurricane goes away, but then there's that nuclear fallout that poisons all of us I mean The amount of stupidity to say that not once but twice it honestly is it's unfathomable if Donald Trump can become president You clearly can do whatever you want to do in life. It's possible.  I never said this just more fake news now one thing That's interesting to me about this is he referred to himself in the third person Presumably so he can say this was a staffer that said it but then he goes on to say in the next sentence I never said this so now he's just like going out of his way to more frequently refer to himself in the third person I mean Who is not sick and tired of Donald Trump?   There's something wrong with you if you support him You have to have something Not working right in your brain to think that this man should remain president The fact that he was elected in the first place is an embarrassment to all of us But to still support him till this day When he is declining mentally rapidly I don't I don't know what to say to you. You just you have to have something wrong with you like And I know that that sounds condescending.  Then there's something wrong with you. That means that you must Be intellectually dim as well if you don't see what everyone else sees What a loser Visit patreon.com Slashed humanist report to support the low ratings humanist report sad My views are much higher


All right. Hello. I think we are online and the participants are starting to come in. Okay, we'll start very shortly. Just allowing a little bit of time for everyone to get in on this very interesting day and report we have for you. So, welcome everyone. Today, the United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network, the UN SDSN and Enel Foundation, are presenting their report on how to effectively implement the European Green Deal and how to do so in consistency with the SDSGs, the sustainable development goals. It's going to be a very interesting report. We have Professor Jeffrey Sachs with us. We have Simone Mori and we will have Camila Bausch who will be discussing today's topic. And we will also be showcasing it at one point an example from the Italian National Recovery and Resilience Plan in order to demonstrate this national effort that's working to align the long term planning with the SDSGs. And I find that particularly interesting because it will allow us to see in concrete how that might work. And there's just so much to discuss today. The ambitions are huge. As we know we are living in an urgent climate and environmental crisis, and we need to pursue sustainability as best we can. We need to respect the leave no one behind principle. So the European Green New Deal needs to be implemented according to as this report will show a holistic across sectoral approach. And adopting the six transformations approach which we will discuss later with Professor Sachs developed by Professor Jeffrey Sachs and others to provide a model for policymakers to address issues like this and very, very complex situations like the one. We are facing. So I'm really, really very pleased to be here today and to be able to listen to what the speakers have to say. So very quickly, a few things. So we're starting now we'll end about 430. If people who are coming in I see the participants numbers are rising you can feel free to write questions in the chat. Please use the Q&A chat we have two chats that you will see on your monitors. So please use the Q&A chat for any questions you may have. And at the end, when everyone has had a chance to speak, we will be looking at the questions and doing a Q&A session. So without further ado, let me maybe briefly introduce the speakers. I'm sure you're all here because you know who is speaking and what we're discussing but Professor Jeffrey Sachs obviously well known professor author, advisor to governments around the world and obviously to the United Nations. He leads global efforts for sustainable development for climate safety and is a strong, strong supporter of the Green New Deal. And in his bio it says and Medicare for all so he's an expert on public health and epidemics and has advised the World Health Organization during the past 20 years and much, much more. But I mean this is just a taste of his bio. We will also be speaking to Simone Mori who is annual groups head of Europe and he's been since 2018. Prior to that he covered several managerial positions within the group, responsibility at group level for regulation for anti trust for environmental and climate policies. And from 2014, he has represented annals interest with regards to the European Union. So, a perfect profile, obviously for what we are discussing today. And last but not least obviously we have Dr. Kamila Bausch. She is scientific and executive director of the College Ecological Institute for main fields of research are environmental climate and energy policy. Dr. Bausch was a longstanding part of the German delegation to the UN climate negotiations so that's particularly interesting for us. Her experience in that field, and she has been active in the introduction reform of the emissions trading system in Germany, which which is a very interesting system I've been writing about it in the past, and that's fascinating. And as well as ongoing developments of energy law so Dr. Bausch serves as co chair of the T20 task force on climate change sustainable energy and environment for the Italian G20 presidency which has just, it has just ended this year Italy has had the G20 presidency this year. So, there you have it. So, I would begin at this point with Simone Mori, who tell us a little bit more about this report that is being presented today, who can sort of explain how it has evolved how climate policy has evolved in the last decades how we come to the Green New Deal. And then I know he can also tell us a little bit more about the Italian example which I was mentioning before. So, thank you for being with us and the floor is yours. Thank you. Thank you very much is an honor to be here with you today. Thank you very much for training foundation for inviting me to present an earlier discussion. Let's start from from from Glasgow. Probably, some of you have spent a couple of days in Glasgow, and being there I came to my mind. The 2009 cop in Copenhagen for several reasons not only for the, let's say, some logistical difficulties which was quite evident in this case but also because of looking at the cop from European ice. There was a very strong similarity. In 2009 Europe came to Copenhagen, just having closed the 2020 package. And the idea at that time was, well, let's negotiate, try starting from a point of the same. So, the idea was leading by example, you know, we are, we already define our own plan. We believe that you want to be the leaders, the moral leaders of the, on this fight, and the rest of the world will follow. Unfortunately, in Copenhagen, the rest of the world didn't follow. And the cop was a quite an evident failure. This was the judgment of the analyst. So looking at Glasgow, there is a similar similarity. Europe came with the fit for 55, not close, but very well structured. And then the idea is, well, we came with our homework done. We want to be in some way the example for the rest of the world. But I think that the similarity stops here. And there are very big differences, not only because in Copenhagen was knowing and thanks to God that this in Glasgow was not storing for you. So while queuing outside, you don't have, you didn't need to say under those notes. But because Europe came with a very strong position, based on the fact that the stratification policies that were put in place starting from 2008 2009, then modified to the energy union approach. And to be more tighter, closer, more coherent. The clean energy package accelerating in Samaria starting to define targets for 2013. The European Green Deal, so the new parliament for the lion commission instead of articulating elaborating on what the previous commission did. And the new plans and new plan which is even accelerated after a strong and sound cost benefit analysis demonstrating quite clearly that if you do the job in the proper way. The achievement of European targets will be good, not only for the climate, but also for European economy and people. And also because Europe put in place some specific tool aimed at being not only the same moral leader in this process but also technological leader. Also with some defensive tool, which makes some difference. I believe that it's very important to consider a couple of points which are an inherent part of the of the package that you appear. Institutions proposed. Let's start from the concept of just transition just until the decision is a concept that Carlos Papas here with us and it started to discuss about just transition several years ago probably before the definition became in some way the idea that you know that to get the job done.  You might not have winners and losers. You have to push in order to enforce the winner. You have to be aware of the needed transition. Because the transition will be difficult in some regional continent in some specific segment of the chain and then we have to take care of it. We may not, you know, we may not admit that the achievement of this target may be, I mean, could happen while I'm, I'm publishing a part of those. Introducing specific tools in order to support this transition is very, very was a very, very important part of of European policies and I believe that this will succeed because the tools that are under construction are very, very relevant and punchy at every second point, we may not construct a decarbonize European economy and society just by importing technology produced as well. You know, of course, the debate in some way is a has to take into consideration the experience we had in the past for some specific part of renewable value chain, especially the solar panel which became quite certainly a commodity and largely important. This is not the destiny of our continent. We are starting to produce and top end high tech, for example, solar panels and we may produce this in Europe while there is a high added value, we may rain show a part of the production that apparently was exported. But there is not only this, but the alliance, a good example of European cooperation in order to put in place to reinforce the European manufacturing in this segment. There are several, quite a large number of new large factories and bigger factories, which are under construction around Europe, in different countries, Europe may play a big role in that. We don't have to take for granted that this kind of technology should be left to order countries and other geographies. This is not reality. The green hydrogen is another important step. The green hydrogen, which is the solution for deploying the decarbonization is so called health a big sector relies on the technology of the devices, which is still quite much technology may play a big role and again the kind of an alliance is working out also in order to incorporate this kind of technologies into the European segment. So, on my side, you will feel a lot of optimism, but we are very much for the further of this European European measures, also because as you know this was the core of your question about the Italian recovery plan because this is having consequences on the decision that member states are making. And if you look at the European Italian plan, but it's not only the Italian one, we know what the other plans produce in other countries where we are present, that's Spain, that's Greece. They are very much in line with what Europe is trying to do. Electrification, which, of course, which is the best and fastest way to bring the decarbonize electricity to the final users in order to accelerate the decarbonization of the final demand energy demand and also in order to engage all the population because all the cities and all the society is a big project and the effort so without going into the details on the topics on the very topics of the planet. I believe that what is important, what we see now that in many regions of Europe, and of course in Italy, for sure, there is a very strong coherence between what developments are putting as a priorities in the plan and what Europe is defining in terms of a ground vision for the 2030 and then 40,000 50 for the carbon net zero carbon neutrality vision. That's reason why we are pretty sure that this will work. There is a big problem of execution. We are aware of that, which is an Italian problem, which is an European problem, permitting retake bureaucracy administrative constraints, fragmentation is still very present is still a problem. So we are pretty sure that being the plan homogeneous and ambitious, but realistic, and being the barriers, the constraints, very well identified. Well, I feel myself on the side of the optimist we may deliver we could deliver and it's very good to deliver because this is going to be good for the planet for the environment also for our economy and our citizens thank you very much for your attention. Thank you very much for presenting this, this, this part of the of the very important report between the the partnership that that generated this report between the UN SDSN and the end of foundation I see that the professor sucks is connected so welcome Professor. Thank you very much. Sorry for the delay but it's a trapped in zoom world someplace else. No problem at all. We've just gone through as you as you know, the report. Simone more has taken us through a little bit of the development how we got there. The evolution, let's call it that way and then a little bit about the applying the six transformations framework to the Italian case but you know he didn't to the details as yet. I would like to to ask you about the six transformations obviously how to implement how to get to this, the green you deal through the six transformations if you could tell us about that part of the report. Thank you so much. Wonderful. Thank you very very much. Let me thank all of my colleagues and especially be an L foundation for the partnership on this and for all of the SDSN Europe which is working hard to support the European Green Deal. First, let me say the European Green Deal is the most comprehensive framework for sustainable development on the planet. So I greatly support and admire what the European Union is doing and what the European Commission is doing to promote the sustainable development goals the Paris agreement, and the conservation of biodiversity in a coherent and consistent manner. We can see from this work, it's complicated. The European Green Deal is not a simple document it doesn't lend itself to a sound bite. There is no 30 second elevator pitch of the European Green Deal. It is very intricate. It's got many moving parts as Simone was saying, and as we know, decarbonization change of land use, digitalization, research and development, circular economy, farm to fork. It's a lot. And it's good that it's a lot because the sustainable development agenda is really a complicated multi objective process, a very ambitious one, and much beyond normal governance. It's beyond normal governance because we're aiming not at one goal or one parameter. Economic growth or unemployment or inflation were aiming at a consistent set of solutions to massive environmental crises. We have a change loss of biodiversity mega pollution emerging diseases, widening social inequalities, widening crises of social trust as we've seen on the streets of Europe and the United States in recent days, where we are really in a fragile state of despair is even with regard to basic public health measures, and of course the desire for continued progress towards economic well being and convergence within Europe and across the world. And it's a little crazy that the SDGs have 159 targets and hundreds of indicators. And these are goals set for a decade from now or mid century in the case of decarbonization. And that's also very, very hard politically. It's hard to even to keep an attention span of society and politicians years ahead, much less to keep a consistent set of public policies. So that's why we at SDSN have been advocating the idea of six big transformations doesn't simplify it as much as I'd like but six big transformations to try to encapsulate what is this all about. And those six are mainly around education, and also the advanced skills for innovation as number one, health and well being, obviously very pertinent in the COVID era is number two. Energy and industrial transformation, that's both decarbonization and circular economy is number three. Sustainable land use and biodiversity and sustainable food systems in particular is number four sustainable urbanization as number five because we are still in a period of mass urbanization we're going to have mega cities in Asia and Africa, unlike European cities which developed over the course of 3000 years. Cities today have to develop in the course of 20 years and they have to get it right the first time or end up in massive crises of congestion pollution inequality and the like. That means a kind of urban design and planning and finance and construction in a very short period of time, fortunately Europe has less of that problem, because it has the most wondrous cities that have grown organically over 1000s of years. And so it's a matter of some updates for the, the new technologies but not fundamental new building of mega cities, and the sixth transformation is the digital transformation, which on the one side could change our lives for the better, enabling us to have better services, health, education, payments systems e commerce e governance, more leisure time. We have not. Well, all of us to some extent have traded online for our commutes during the coven period. A lot of that will remain that we will do more work from distance, more work in local neighborhoods more work from home, rather than automobile based commutes or anything in my mind. But we know that this digital transformation also will change jobs and eliminate a lot of jobs. It could potentially increase a lot of leisure but it won't necessarily because the impacts could be so unequal. It could lead to psychological addictions, manipulation, fake news. I'd say net net right now, it's a pretty close call. What's happening. We see a lot of social disarray and destruction around the social media. I don't know what to do, but I'm not prepared to enter the metaverse with Mark Zuckerberg. He seems a pretty unreliable guide to me in a pretty flaccid thinker that I'm not ready to trust either my future of my children's or my grandchildren's future to Zuckerberg's ideas. So, these are big challenges and big transformations. So the idea of our report today is to say great the European Green Deal is, is, is a fantastic framework. It harmonizes your maps into these six transformations, but we're also urging the European Commission to use the six transformations as an organizing principle, or some variant of it, to keep the big picture to help us keep track of what we're doing it's a pretty good fit. There's a pretty good coherence, but it's hard to implement anything that we're trying to do and so the six transformation framework is really an aid to implementation. It's to say think of the challenges in the following way. Think of these as transformations meaning 20 year changes of society not next month next year, not business cycle, but generational change. Think about the coherence of policy in that regard. Think about the financing. To my mind it is think about more Europe, not less Europe, because all of these ambitions whether it's a decarbonized energy system or a Mediterranean sea, which is ecologically protected, or whether it is a Europe that is vibrant and resilient commercially depends on regional cooperation regional scale budgets, EU wide budgeting which is why I'm a big fan of the European recovery and resilience facility. I'd like even more of that. So, Alessandra that's the basic idea of what we're after in this, and we see this as a basic guide post for future action, not as a moment of decision but as a framework that can help to guide and Europe's got it in the right steps. And now bolster this, make it work and then take it worldwide because every place in the world needs its own green deal with similar structures and we have to make it work in Europe because it's the place in the world both likely to succeed. It's making progress and the spirit of our report today is to make sure that that progress continues in a very strong and resilient way. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yes, definitely. We hope, and we hope it will be an example for for the rest of the world, hopefully. All right, well I will then I'd love to move on to Dr. Camila Bausch, who is scientific and executive director of the Ecologic Institute in Europe. Thank you for being with us. I think at this point I'll let you maybe comment what you've heard so far from your point of view, you know from your experience what we've heard. And also I guess what you're seeing you know from your point of view in your data and in your analysis. Thank you. Thank you very much, Alessandra and thank you Simone and Jeffrey for inviting me that's really an honor and a pleasure. And it's, it feels good to work in Europe right now because there is so much dynamic and so much to be done. So it's a good moment in time, while it's also a scary moment in time thinking of what is developing around us. Yes, Simone. Let me take a quick look back first Simone took the worst moment in international climate negotiations the 2009 Copenhagen summit. Let me look at 2015 quickly which was a highlight and a year of breakthroughs for multilateralism. Here, the agenda 2030 was agreed upon with the 17 sustainable development goals, and the Paris Agreement was adopted, was both in the same year and the world defined ultimate objectives for its collective efforts and overcame the former strict divide between developing developed countries. So basically, in 2015, we defined a common agenda for the world as a whole. However, we did that without a toolbox box to meet the challenges to achieve these objectives. So until today, we are working to define and pave the way towards the future we want to live in. And therefore it's actually quite decisive for societies to advance the thinking and the policies to achieve these objectives. So this is what the report also wants to contribute to. The report rightly points to transformations we need and how to make them successful and efficient and for this the report points to the need for policy coherence across sectors and branches of governments. So that's horizontal between levels of governments. So that's vertical and throughout time. And I just echo that this is correct that also shows how complex that is. So we basically need targets policies measures, good governance structures and anchors to guide us through times and let me mention here explicitly long term climate strategies, because they have not been explicitly but implicitly mentioned in the report and they are something lacking yet in the fit for 55 package of the European Union so it includes long the need for long term strategy so we can actually align our policies in a coherent way. And as has been mentioned, we are also in a process of learning because transformations are fundamental and they are a lot of experiences we did not have yet. So as we move along, we learn on a time frame. So basically monitoring and reviewing will be needed, and the report also highlights this. Now, why all of this holds true for all countries around the world, the report focuses on the EU, and specifically on energy and climate issues in particular, and provides a quite adequate description also of the status quo, and the complex landscape and economic developments. So let me look at that also for a moment. Over the past few years we have seen some fundamental developments which I think in 2015 barely anybody who interrelated game changers. The one is also a lot for underlying as a conservative president of the commission coming in, and announcing Green Deal as her core policy framework. So for the first time, an environmental issue, particularly climate change has become a focal point for all policymaking for the policy vision. As Jeffrey Sachs just said the grand vision. So this framework as it stands here, it's something unique and you wouldn't have seen that before. And it is an integrated systemic approach which shows it's rather complex because everything is interlinked but you have to break it down to not drown in complexity to have this back and forth, break it down and then link it back. So it's coherent and tangible and actionable. That is a big challenge here. The agenda of the European Green Deal is closely intertwined with the agenda, sorry, with the agenda 2030. Be it good health, and well being, be it clean water and sanitation, be it affordable and clean energy or climate change just to name a few. Actually the European Commission links 12 of the 17 SDGs directly to the European Green Deal. As the report just published today, mentioned the European Green Deal represents the first model framework for addressing multiple SDGs in a coherent manner. In a coherent strategy, sorry, that was a quote. And it mentions it is an all government approach. I want to say it's even in parts in all society approach and that links to what Simone has just said that all of society is needed and it's not only technology it's not on governance it's really these transformation needs societal backing that is also mentioned in the report. And the second game changer was the agreement to become carbon neutral by 2050 setting a date and not saying 80 to 95% but saying carbon neutral. Why is that such a game changer because before there was kind of a tug of war which part of industry could remain emitting. Others have to reduce now tug of war is over. Everybody has to be in that's the call of the day. So that is decisive. Nobody can escape the need to change. That was a game changer. So now with all of this on board, the report highlights some key opportunities, particularly related to the recovery package, but also some key challenges. The complex structures within the EU, the different views of member states they different starting points, the different structural challenges in the member states controversies, evolving over for example, the new EU taxonomy for sustainable action, including controversies over gas issues and nuclear issues. So we could add to these complex points mentioned in the report. Some things Jeffrey just mentioned in his introduction. So reforms of agricultural and transport policies, debates over future proof infrastructures sector coupling, or the extension of the industry. So, overall, there's a lot of promising approaches on the table already and quite a bit of challenges still to overcome. Now the report highlights then Italy. It is overall a positive assessment of the Italian case. The wealth of opportunities Italy has at its fingertips, I quote, Italy can leverage the abundance of renewable resources available, namely wind and solar, and with mostly mature technologies, and of course. So that links nicely to what Simone just said. I'm excited about the opportunities. And the report rightly says that Italy claims that 40% of the funds are dedicated to investments to combat climate change, but now to spill some water into the wine. This is of the green recovery tracker of the Italian case, which basically says there is a lack of appropriate support for crucial pillars of the energy transition, notably the expansion of renewable energy generation and direct use of electricity. And it warns from wrong lock ins and actually finds that, and I quote, Italy's recovery plan achieves a green spending share of 16%. Below the EU's 37% benchmark, and at the same time we find that is the report of the green recovery tracker, we find that 26%, that is 49.5 billion may have a positive or a negative impact on the green transition, depending on the implementation of the relevant measures. So here there is some need also for the scientific community to follow up to make sure that this, we don't know yet how it turns out turns out to be good and the right direction. And I assume I'm running out of time Alessandra or do I have two minutes. You certainly have two minutes, it's fine. Then let me turn to science because I was asked that before the event that I could mention some words on science here, science can make an important contribution in this context. I see four roles, a source of generating scientific knowledge and insights, a watchdog, a scientific advisor, and as a convener and actually as the SN plays a role in this. But let me add also some structural point I find not worthy for the scientific community. So science can create insights which become cornerstones in the political process, think about the intergovernmental panel on climate change and its impacts on the international climate negotiations. Second, scientists can become part of the policy process. Especially formally this has been quite trendy right now in Europe, considering the national climate laws where you have these experts commissions. And that is good. They have reviewing they are neutral they are outside of these policy realm but still inside. And that includes also monitoring and assessment as the report rightly points out. Now, thirdly, I think we have to engage into new forms of research in Germany we call it this transdisciplinary research for solutions that work in the real world in short term. And that means to integrate stakeholders and their implicit knowledge into the scientific process. And secondly, to dare to develop new scientific methods like real world laboratories and I like to actually test what we think about to advance more quickly and learn with each other. Last but not least, I want to say we have a responsibility we have a responsibility to contribute to creating knowledge systems for the change agents we want to see. Right now, for example, a farmer who wants to change to become more sustainable is challenged because he doesn't have a good go to point to understand what does it mean for the business model for the finance model what are the right technologies what are the right techniques. So we need for all this transformation and knowledge systems up to the task. So this. So this means we have a lot on the table, and we have a lot to do. So let's take it away and build the future we want to see. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right, I think we can open our Q&A session and actually the timing is perfect because we have about 15 minutes. We won't be stingy with time so if anyone has extra questions. These do so are anyone who would like to can post questions in the Q&A I have some questions in the Q&A I have some questions in the chat. I have questions coming from various directions. So, here's one from the Q&A for you. Okay, let me just open it so really vendor branding I hope I pronounced that correctly. I fear not, but I apologize therefore. So he writes that you know he's concerned about implementation. He says 2015 is six years ago the improvement of SDGs is marginal one third of the time is gone, and the indices are getting worse and worse with global CO2 emissions continues the increasing. He's concerned, you know that you don't see real improvements each report predicts worse outcomes in the previous one and ends with however there is hope, because we are human I suppose and we hope. So here's for hope but what year do you think the data will give some substance to the hope do you see this data improving. You know, is it still early tell perhaps we can start maybe with actually with Camilla on this and maybe then go back to the others. It's wonderful to be asked about the data when being a lawyer. I love that. So let's see what I can say about the data. I think, being at this moment in time we can tell two stories we can tell the doomsday story. We have a lot of evidence to back that up about trends in in the energy sector about trends in the agricultural sector about emissions, and you do have the data to back that up. But you can also tell the other story, and you do have data to back that up about the future of renewables about the drop in cost about the drop in battery. And about the new exciting opportunities with green hydrogen thinking of technology or with respect and they also have data to back that up. Just go to the website of the arena. And so that's the International Renewable Energy Agency, and you have some policy commitments which you have not seen ever on the table. People complain about Russia wanting and China wanting to become carbon neutral only by 2016. I can understand that you're not happy about that, but then I would say, at least we have a pleasure on the table we didn't have that before and it was not very likely that we get one. So, or China pulling out of financing international coal. Of course you could ask them to stop financing also national coal. So I think we have room to tell both stories and how the tug of war actually ends will depend on how much dynamic we can create. And, as you say, we always end with hope and there is a quote attributed to Luther, so Martin Luther, so the German guy, not the American guy. And he said, if I would know that the world would go down tomorrow I would still plan an epitree. And this is what gets me going because I think that's the only solution we have. And I don't find it for me very productive to focus on the doomsday scenario. So, so I hope we work for the solutions and we'll be meeting again and then having even better data on the table. Okay, thank you. Well, I'll keep circling backward through our speakers so now to Professor sacks a bit of the same question, you know, are you concerned that we're not moving fast enough and then I'll add a bit of my own because I did have a question as a journalist. The costs, you know, I everywhere I go, there's talk about the cost the governments I've spoken to. Obviously when you speak to, for example, I'm in based in Italy. When you speak to Mediterranean countries the south part of the Mediterranean North Africa they say well look we have other issues to worry about this is not a priority. But even when I was in France recently, there was an issue with the costs. There's political tension there's an election coming up. So, two questions that one is. Okay, the question asked by in the Q&A you know, we're not seeing enough do you think we're not seeing results fast enough. And when will we see something and then the other question is this issue of the cost it's clearly slowing down. How worried are you about it. What can we do is there any way we can sort of overcome it. Especially in countries like like Europe where you think, you know we have enough money to do both. Perhaps to the main the main the main problem is not the costs, the costs of running a zero carbon energy system versus fossil fuel based system are pretty close. And analyses say that the renewable system will end up being net cheaper, not even a small more expensive, it's not the costs. It is a lot about the distributional consequences, and especially the interests of major fossil fuel producers. We were all fossil fuel using but not producing. So we were importing from outer space we would choose to import the solar rather than the fossil fuel. The problem is actually with the fossil fuel producers, because that's where the lags are taking place. Europe is in the lead in part because it has very little fossil fuel. It tends to get stymied. Think of Germany and coal. Well, okay, good. The coal commission said there'll be a phase out, but it was hard political work even for a very modest part of the German economy. Now, imagine if you're Saudi Arabia, or Russia, or Australia, I don't have sympathy for their position too much but I just have an understanding that we're up against mostly interests. We're not up against costs per se. We're also up against or complexity because an energy transformation is not a simple matter. It's about changing power generation and technologies that use energy such as electric vehicles rather than internal combustion engine or hydrogen based steel making. These are new technologies, actually, that are going to work, but they need development and improvement and their systems. So they are interconnected and they require changes of land use and other kinds of behaviors and so on. So part of the problem is the impact on political power on government finances on commercial interests. Part of the problem is the pure complexity of getting this done. A modest part is about costs. That's the exaggerated part by the vested interests. I do want to say I agree with everything Camila said except why pick on China, for example, why isn't your normal reaction about the United States which is much, much worse in behavior than China. The United States has no policies agreed by the US Congress. The US admits much more fossil fuel. The US is an entirely corrupt political system where large oil interests pay for the campaigns of Congress. And, you know, we give the US a free pass because they're allies, so called, but the truth of the matter is by constantly belittling China, and so forth we've created an aura that they're the enemy. I think Biden had a lot of audacity to go to COP26 with nothing at hand, no financing, nothing agreed by Congress, and then blaming China and Russia. That's ridiculous, frankly, especially since the United States is responsible for 20% of the historic emissions.  Every Republican is against action. Many Democrats are against action.  Here, this is really a deeply problematic country, extremely worrisome. I'm very afraid of what's happening in this country, in many, many ways. But what I don't like is the belligerency of the United States vis-a-vis China, and then somehow piling on. I mean, Camila said, yes, they made a goal, and that's good. And by the way, without the European Green Deal, China never would have made a 2060 goal, so this is a triumph of the European Green Deal. And if we negotiate properly with China and discuss and exchange ideas, it will become 2050. It will, because they can do it in 2050, and they should do it in 2050. And I'm worried about the US, because we have so much political power to obstruct that this is a very serious problem, and because we're aiming to create conflict with China for all sorts of cultural and domestic political reasons in the United States. And it's not really a complaint, Camila, it's just an observation that we have to be careful with how we discuss these things, because really, I'd much rather call out Australia, which acts terribly in this, the United States. Because that's us, so-called, that's our side. And then I think if we deal respectfully and actually honor financial commitments with India, for example, India would do much more, but we've never had a serious financing discussion with India. I'm not in love, by the way, with the government approach on many things in India. So I'm not also giving a free pass. But I think the way we approach the rest of the world, lecturing them rather than doing our own work and not financing the basic amounts that we promised is one of the major reasons why we are not succeeding globally. If the rich countries had come with 100 billion, or it should have been 200 billion by now, then there would not have been the kind of COP26 we just had. So we should understand our role in the global process. I'm not lecturing, Camila knows every word of what I'm saying, but I'm just saying that we should phrase things in this way too. Thank you. All right. Well, certainly, and Camila, if you'd like, I will give you a moment later to answer. But although, yes, it is more a statement than a question, I suppose. But I wanted to get to Simone Mori, because, well, first of all, there's another question in our Q&A.  I'd like to know how civil society and experts working on climate change can contribute with implementing the European Green New Deal. And so, in line with that, I guess my question as well is, you know, along with institutions which are leading these transformations, what other actors? Can you tell us a bit more about the other actors? So, you know, the industry, financial sector, citizens, consumers, et cetera, et cetera. And obviously, if you want to address what Professor Sachs just said, please do. There is no sense. As I said, I believe that this is an evolution, this is a deep transformation that you have to engage all the society. You need everybody on board. You need companies, you need, of course, decision makers, you need companies, you need private investors, finance. You know, we are working out in order to define a new way of cluster-wise finance according to sustainable targets, which is even a more comprehensive view than the most established green board, for example. Finance is going to play a very important role. But it's clear that without the engagement of the society, there is no way to progress, because I try to connect to the topics of the two questions, because you may not go against a society which doesn't want to change. I mean, Jules Jaune is the top of a nice thing, but it's true. I mean, I was saying in the debate, there's a quite semantic discussion about cost of investments. Okay, I buy the investment concept at the end of the day. If you carry out a lot of investment today, you may have an impact on the average cost of life of citizens. So you have to manage it. You may not just deny that there's something that has to be done. But engaging the society means doing the right thing in order to sustain the development, for example, also from the point of your skills, education, schools, we need, we might need people, young people, young talents, to the level of the hierarchies of companies and the public sector have to manage the tools that you need, for example, Mr. Sax was mentioned in the digital digital is an inherent part of the energy transition. And we have to create the competencies that distributed companies are to sustain it to manage this revolution. We also have to take into consideration, as I said, that for some part of the society, this would be a problem. If you are a coal miner in Czech Republic or in Poland or in Italy or in Germany, it doesn't see this problem, that has to be managed. And again, the concept of managing the just transition area. What's the meaning of reskilling of people, financial support, reindustrialization of areas that have to be, whose mission has to be modified. That's very important. We are more on the hardware side of the software side. That's very important. That's a priority. Another point where you want to, we have to avoid the discrepancies and coherence. So I will fully support, for example, the idea of European Union to introduce a border carbon adjustment for, in order to avoid, let's say, climate dumping on goods and services. This is very important. We don't have to blame countries which are lagging behind. We have to take very seriously, for example, the concerns of India. Again, there were comments about India. If you look at us here, per capita emissions of an average Indian, it's a long way to go. We have to respect them. But we will provide that this long transition maybe came away for promoting unfair trade because again, and it would prevent our food society to be compact behind the effort of the carbonization. I don't want to talk about numbers because I don't want to avoid the big, the bigger and the bigger question about numbers, things are going bad or good again. As I said at the beginning, I would tend to put myself on the side of half of food class, but we did a huge work and technologies are there. I mean, there was no way to produce electricity at a cheaper, cheaper than renewable, for example, that offers us an incredible tool, for example, for overcoming several steps. Look at Sub-Saharan Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa probably has to more than double its own energy demand in the next decade, hopefully. It's not just a demography, but it's also to the economic development. They may jump several steps of technological evolution, such as they have done with the telecom. They may jump directly from no energy because we know how many people in Sub-Saharan Africa is still without any kind of modern energy access up to sustainable renewable based energy. They jump all the steps of, you know, fossil fuel, centralized infrastructure and so on and so forth. Again, technology is there. And we have to take into consideration the evolution, the trend, not the picture. The picture may be in some way disappointing here and there. In Europe, we have to look at that. I mean, the example of Europe is a very good example because it's the demonstration of the job may be done without reducing your competitiveness, without reducing your ability to create growth jobs and GDP. Of course, the time is different. Look at the dynamics of the dynamics of carbon neutrality 2050-5560 is an important topic. You need to target otherwise. You don't create the momentum. But I would say in this incredible transformation, it's a quite secondary point. Thank you. Thank you very much for addressing almost all of the questions at the same time. So that was quite an impressive feat. It looks like we've more or less reached the end, but I didn't want to end it there because it was so interesting. So if we could just quickly, I wanted to revert back to Camila Bausch, both because obviously Professor Sacks addressed her directly and also to say, look, how can we, you know, we don't have much time, but I just, how can we export this European model.  But, you know, if you can answer the question of, okay, should we be calling out the people that aren't doing their job? Is there a difference between, for example, some countries that can't because they're in a different situation economically and countries that are very wealthy and aren't doing what they should be doing. I realize we don't have much time, but I mean I want to give you at least a chance to say something honest. Thank you. Thank you very much. First of all, as Jeffrey said, we are not in disagreement here. So it's just, I think, on a transatlantic panel, it's much better the American side talks about the American issues. And one has to admit though that just looking at the emission numbers, China is the biggest emitter at the moment, but per capita, the US and Australia are rightly called out today by Jeffrey Sacks. And if you look at the dynamics which were the cop for language, evidently, and China and Russia were in parts difficult partners but coming from a different starting point. So I think we have a diplomatic rearm acknowledged that in those who were totally disappointed with Glasgow, I don't think they do it justice. I think they all the lead up there was some dynamic which wouldn't have been possible in the international realm without the Glasgow summit. So I find that promising what I do not find promising however in the international realm is the G20. The Italy really tried to advance the G20 agenda combined with the UK who had the G7 presidency and the they together had the cop presidency and there was basically no progress within the G20, and they are responsible for 80% of global emissions. So that will be a challenge for next year. Germany has the G7 presidency. So right on Germany. Let's build a good basis to then go to the Indonesian G20 summit and help to create a positive dynamic and obviously the US will have to be part of it. I guess we are right now so relieved that we have a new president to talk about and to act with that already that is something we positively acknowledge but to be frank, that's a quite low bar. Even though he has an excellent team he has a difficult situation at home, and that will be the challenge to this presidency, to his presidency to see if he can still deliver on what I believe he wants to deliver. Let's see if he can make the political tide turn that way. And just a last note on the just transition point Simone which you mentioned what I find in the just transition very important that we frame it in a broad manner, and also look at those who suffer under the current situation be it from climate impact be it from air quality issues from cold dust and like and say part of the just transition is also alleviating the burden of the current system of those who are actually not privileged enough to be able to move out of the way of these kind of problems. So the just transition is, of course part of the cold worker debate but it's also part of the other under privileged privileged people suffering under the current system debate. With this I hope we find a wonderful sea bam solution which triggers a lot of positive dynamic throughout the world, instead of a negative dynamic where fronts harden and we get out of collaboration because we really need a truly global approach for this transformation towards the economy of the future and the societies of the future we want to see and we have at our hands. So let's make a good sea bam and embed it nicely in the diplomatic efforts so it actually works to the favor of the whole world. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, well, we're coming to the end so I'm going to let Professor stacks and it. Sorry, a bit quickly because we really are at the end of our, but I just wanted to give the one last word and so, you know, let's end it a little bit more positively perhaps you know would you still plants a tree if you knew that the world was ending tomorrow. The world's not ending tomorrow. We, we should be planting trees, and we should be using the G seven and the G 20 process, because we need to and I'm, I am very pleased that the G 20 this year has the presidency in Indonesia, a country that has a lot of determination and need for sustainable development. And I think it will bring developing country perspectives to the forefront. And I really like the idea of the German G seven feeding well into the Indonesian G 20 this sounds like a great plan so I really like that. Thank you very much. Thank you to all our participants to everyone who was online watching and commenting and asking questions. And thank you for having me as your moderator for this important as DSN and annual foundation partnership. You can read the report online there's a link in the chat if you want to look at it click on it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you once again.


Hi and welcome to People's Dispatch, we're here reporting from the International People's Assembly in Solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution and against imperialism. We're here with Victoria. Can you tell us what your organization is? Yeah, hello. My name is Victoria Cines. I am here in Caracas today representing LAG, which is the Committee of Solidarity with Latin America in Norway. Apart from that, I'm also a member of the Red Party in Norway, RET. So right now in Europe, as many of us have seen, there's now a refugee crisis that has been happening for the past 10 years. What is the situation like in Europe? How are the grassroots movements mobilizing to support the refugees? What's happening with the right-wing governments that are responding to this? Can you talk a little about this situation? Yes, indeed. In a situation where there are over 65 million refugees in the world, Norway are having one of the strictest politics in Europe. Well, first of all, we have a right-wing politics, which is in power in Norway. But also, with the so-called left, which were in power a couple of years ago, some years ago, we also have one of the strictest politics regarding the refugees in the whole Europe. And also, I'm really concerned about, well, me and the Red Party, we also had a manifestation two weeks ago in Norway. We wanted to say stop to the revocation of citizenship, because a big problem in Norway is not only, well, one problem is how that we close our borders, we almost don't receive any refugees any longer. And also, another issue is that there are a lot of miners who used to come to Norway from Afghanistan. The miners, we just give them the possibility to stay in Norway. We just gave them two years at a time. So the moment that they turn 18, we throw them out of the country. So a lot of people are living with a lot of insecurity in Norway, knowing that the day they will turn 18, they might get kicked out of the country. So that creates a lot of insecurity and a lot of the Afghans, especially, which, well, are the ones who really are suffering this. A lot of the Afghans, they have been suicide attempts. But according to Norwegian experts, Afghanistan is safe. We just say that two provinces are not safe. So person, which are from one of the two provinces that Norway think is too dangerous, we just send them to Kabul, because Kabul is safe, right? So that's one of the big problems. Another issue is how we treat Norwegian citizens. The right-wing government, Norway, have started, well, we have over 200 people working in the Norwegian state trying to identify Norwegian citizens, but they're trying to identify whom of them might lie when they came to Norway 20 years ago. So there are like around 800 family or over 1000 people who might lose their citizenship right now. There's a one family, a Palestinian family, they've been living in Norway for 27 years. Three generations of Palestinians got a message from Norway saying, hey, we think that you lied when you came. We don't believe you're Palestinians anymore, we believe that you're from Jordan. So they have revoked their citizenship. And this is three generations, kicked out of Norway. Another really famous case, which I've been a lot in the Norwegian news, is the case of Mahad. Mahad, he's from Somalia. He came to Norway when he was 14 years old. Mahad, well, he's really good integrated. He was a bio engineer. He was walking in one of the biggest hospitals in Oslo, you know, really perfect story. Until some years ago, he also got the post from the Norwegian government saying that they got tips from other people saying that he was not from Somalia, but from Djibouti. So what happened? Well, he lost his job. He lost all of his paper, his passport. He lost his life. Now he's in Norway without any right. He's a person without paper, a person who literally don't exist. Now we just have to live without being able to work. If he have trouble with healthcare, well, he don't get any help. Or if it's emergency, then there's a lot of people like him in Norway. And he even asked to be transported to Somalia, because Somalia has said they want him. So he even asked Norway to, okay, send me back to Somalia then if you don't want me here after 17 years in Norway. But Norway refuses to send him back because then they don't want to admit that he's from Somalia. So he can't leave Norway and he can't live in Norway. And yeah, he's just a famous example, but a lot of people are in his situation. So this is also, this is what's happening to Norwegian citizens and what's happening and how we treat immigrants is also a part of, well, the rise of the right, the extreme right. We have the right and extreme right, which is in power in Norway. We could also see other places in Europe where we have fascist governments, the extreme right who are closing the border. A big problem in Europe is the Dublin deals, right? Because after 2015, when a lot of people came to Europe, Europe tried to close the border and we have this Dublin deal which says that the first country you come to is the country that you should treat your asylum. And so all of the refugees are just being stuck together in Greece and Italy. And this is because of geography. So it's not fair. Like Norway being one of the richest countries in Europe are the one receiving less. Well, Greece which had a lot of economical problems are the country who receives all of them almost. And I was in Greece also volunteering this summer and they are living the conditions where the refugees are living. It's terrifying. It's in Moria, in the Moria camp. It's supposed to be two, three thousand refugees there and it's about 10,000. And children are also hurting themselves. They're suicide attempts there. They're freezing to death almost. And they have to stay in a line four hours a day to get food. And this is just not worth, worthy at all. Now I want to kind of touch on the aspect of the Latin American solidarity that you do with your movement. When was this movement started? Kind of like what are the relationships they have with movements in Latin America? And why from Norway is it important to be in solidarity with what's happening in Latin America? LAG is a movement, well it's an organization with solidarity with Latin America which started mostly after Chileans refugees came after flying the dictatorship of Pinochet. So it's an organization which is solidarity but it's an organization on the left. So we are collaborating with different countries in Latin America, especially the social movement. A lot of people have been in the Zapatista movement. We're also with Conriga in Guatemala, with the MST, the Movimiento sin Tierra in Brazil. So we're also sending groups of Norwegian people to Brazil and also to those other countries which we are having collaboration with. And those are also coming to Norway so we have this exchange. Another important thing of our work is to create alternative information about Latin America or information at all because Norwegian media, they don't have any correspondence in Latin America. So they just copy and reproduce what Western media says about Latin America or there's nothing about Latin America or there are a lot of lies about Latin America. And of course for my organization it's important to show solidarity with Latin America and it's important for us to show solidarity with an anti-imperialistic fight. And it's also important for us to be here to see for ourselves what are going on because we can't just reproduce what the mass media tells us because the mass media are controlled by the economical powers and they don't really tell us the truth about what's going on in Venezuela. So it's really important and I think it's a really important thing for us to be here now to make a good network to be able to talk and understand what we can do to stand against this truth because this is a truth to Venezuela but what's going on now in Venezuela is not just a threat to Venezuela, it's a threat to social movements in a lot of countries because what are going on now with the coup de tite that they are doing, it's colonialism. It's imperialism and it's colonialism that Europe and the United States think that they can decide the politics of Venezuela or any other country in the south. It's colonialism. Thank you so much for speaking with us and we'll see you in the struggle.


Good morning everybody. We're in the truck, but this vlog is going to be including a bunch of different footage from throughout my entire time that I was at home. I was at home Friday, got home Friday, then I was at home Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, part of Wednesday. We left on Wednesday. So a little bit here and there from throughout my time at home. Oh, I just sort of compiled it all into one vlog. So see how it turns out for you. If you like it, give me the thumbs up because that always helps a lot. Look at that baby bump. How many weeks today? 18. Almost halfway there. 18 weeks. First. Getting close to the halfway mark. Seems like it's taking forever to get to the due date. It really does. It takes a long time to bake a baby.  She's always gonna have a baby in her arms. Don't look at me like that. She's always gonna be holding the baby. She's not gonna be able to hold you 24 seven. Oh my. I haven't thought of this yet. Baby's nap, Weiner. Baby's nap. Well, sort of is. What if we nap at the same time? Then you can nap in my arms. Don't worry, Weiner. When I come home, I'm gonna be a baby hog. Mom will have lots of time to hold you. Chevy. You ready for a baby? Frank? What do you think? Nothing? We're spiteless. We're so excited. Where's Diesel? Oh, there he is. He likes to switch napping locations. Diesel. I'm an old man nap. Are you ready for a baby? Very soon. It's gonna be wonderful, mate. Wonderful.  It's gonna be his fur brother. We're just driving out to the Winkler Morden area right now. We're going to see my mom's, I don't want to say new boyfriend. They've been together over a year, but we're going to see her boyfriend's house for the first time. He's invited us for dinner. Very fun to see. But he's more of a private guy, so we're gonna keep him off the video out of respect for his wishes.  He doesn't need to be on the internet. He's not a social media dude, and that's totally cool. Maybe one day he'll feel more comfortable with us. We're just gonna enjoy our family time. Genuine black. Okay, we've already, we've already gone there. Fancy. That is all. We'll see you soon, guys. We'll talk to you after dinner. I always got so excited for it as a little girl. My dad was born and raised in Winkler. My mom lived in Morden when she met my dad when she was 14. No, I think she met him when she was younger than that, like 12 or something, but they started dating when my mom was 14. This is Morden, if you're wondering. Oh, yeah. Winkler and Morden are right kitty corner to each other. There's the fancy house. There it is. Can you guys see it? It's the sun in the way. The fancy house. The sun was a bit bright, but you guys get the general gist. It looked a lot bigger when I was little. Now it just looks like an oversized house, but it looked like a mansion when I was a kid. I swear to you. Anyways, yeah, so my mom spent her teen years here, growing up living with her sister, one of her older sisters, rocks, bar and grill. I feel like my mom used to work somewhere around here. It might even been there. It wasn't called that at the time, but super nice little town. I really like Winkler as well, but Winkler's a city, right, babe? Yeah, it's a big city. Yeah, well, it wasn't when we were little, but I don't know. I really like this area of the province. I like these two towns a lot. I feel kind of at home here because I spend so much time as a little girl here, but it's very well kept. Yes. Everyone takes pride in their yards. A lot of pride. And there's really, the economy here is really well. People are doing well. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people, you know, taking care of their lives, working hard, a lot of respect for those people. So yeah, I love this place. Now that we're back from Morton, it's the next day, starting to get baby's nursery. Cleaned out. Hicking the desk out of here, the mount is coming out of here because there's going to be no TV in here. Reorganizing everything. Got a little ways to go. Give me some slack. I just started. I'm going to clear all of this out and then we'll be ready to paint. This is my office desk and the monitor that I used for editing. I actually got a bigger one that I got from mom and dad that's at the shop, but we'll have that there as well. This is all going to the shop. I'm going to set up the office there. And I reorganized the shop again. This is my new office. It's not done yet, but this desk that came from home, monitor I got from mom and dad. That's for editing videos. That's spare monitor. I'm not too sure what I'm going to use it for yet. That's the one I was editing on at home. Got it here now. This is something my sister made. That's my sister, Cheryl, made Britain Eye for our wedding. We didn't really have a place to put it because our house is so small. So I figured I'd put it up in my office now. She made it herself, so she put a lot of time and effort into that. And I appreciate that. That was a wedding gift for us. I still have to clean up this whole area here. I've been here all evening and I'm still not done. We've got the bullsnot bar over here and put this stuff over here. So that's the new setup. Got the heater down here for when it starts getting cold, plugs into the 220 amp up there, or the 240. Plugs into that there anyway. And old blue, you're going in for a service tomorrow. How do you feel about that? Yeah? You like that?  Give her a bath today. She's looking nice, isn't she? Oh, she knows she looks good. She knows she's not good. I'm tired. I can't even talk right now.  I also brought my YouTube award here, my silver plaque for 100,000 subscribers. This is where I'll be doing a lot of my editing now because my office at home is now officially being transformed into a baby nursery. We've got old blue back and we got the weasel. And we got something going on right here. We're getting ready to leave on our next trip. I got to go to Carmen tonight. Tonight is Wednesday. And so Thursday morning, tomorrow morning, I load up there in Carmen and I have a, I'm not too sure where it's going yet, but I think there's two loads. So it won't be too far. So I'm picking up there in the morning, delivering it, coming back in the afternoon, delivering it. And then we'll see what we got going on for Friday. Now to explain this, diesel. You want to say it? We got a new mattress for the truck and I'm just squeezing this old one out right now. The new one is right here. It's an Odyssey truck mattress. I'm really excited to try this out. I've heard this is like the best of the best and I'll let you know how it is. And I'm going to let you know where you can go and find one as well. So it's all rolled up in here. A little roll. I can just toss it through the door there. It'll be much easier to get this one in and to get that one out. And yeah, we'll cut it out of there. What are we going to do? We'll start packing up all our stuff. We have the Weasel with us this week. Well, for whatever's left of this week. Excited diesel on trucking. I know I'm taking a long time getting going. We got to get all this into the truck yet. Got all of our food and everything for the week and we got to get this mattress replaced. You want to help me, Diesel? Diesel, you're probably going to have to move from here though. Come on. You're being a super good boy watching and making sure that no one takes it. Yes. Good boy. Now you watch out, okay? I don't know what's going to happen when we can pop those. Go to wreck it. Just in case I don't like this one better, come up with this one back in. But I have a feeling that that one's going to be better than anything I've ever slept on in a truck. It was specifically made or put together for this truck for the great size and everything. I don't know if they specifically made it for me. Let's just say they did to make myself feel special. Hey, did grease my fifth wheel? Whoops. Just got my truck serviced and it's realized that they forgot to grease my fifth wheel. I can do that myself before we hook on, but whoops. That's okay. That's okay. I'll just let him know we're out. Here it comes. That's pretty old, eh? That looks pretty old and used. Used and abused, yikes. Kind of glad I got a new one. What do I do with this now? Where do you put all the mattresses? I guess I got to bring it to the dump next time I'm home. This is out of the way for now. Bring it up there. Okay. Watch out for those box flaps. Very close. I want to do this quickly because I want to get going. So I know I don't have the best lighting back here, but I got both doors open to let some light in and I got all the lights on here that I have. So let's try and get this thing unraveled without hurting ourselves. Am I going to need a knife for this or maybe not? I don't know if they sent us instructions along with this or not, but I didn't check. Let's help me say more than just this. Something's leaking air. Oh, it's expanding. Oh shoot. Better hurry. Oh shoot. Oh shoot. Oh no. It's upside down. No. Okay. I think that's right way up. Oh, it's too small. Way too small. Shoot. It's supposed to go right from the back here all the way to the front here and there's a huge gap in here. Maybe that'll be okay. I mean, maybe it'll expand a little bit yet, but yeah, that's a huge gap in there. You see that? The other one came straight up to here. I measured it out and I did tell them what measurements to send. Okay. Well, there it is. We'll give it a shot. Give it a shot. Okay. So it's still continually expanding, getting bigger and bigger. I think it is an inch or two shorter than my other one, because the other one went right up against here, right? And right up against here. So it's a few inches shorter, but that's okay. And I think it's a little bit wider because that never used to rub the mattress there like that. But again, minor, minor details. It's okay. It keeps getting thicker and thicker though. Oh, oh yeah. Yep. Yep. That's that's good. That is nice. That's the stuff. Yep. That is comfy. That I like it. I like it. Yeah, fits. Fits a little differently than my other one, but that's okay. A lot more comfortable. Now let's get our sheets on here and all my protective layers so that diesel can be on here too. He doesn't get to go on just the open mattress like this. What do you think diesel? We're here in Carmen at that same place that we were at a few weeks ago, if you remember. I know we can't really see much here right now. It's kind of dark in my truck but I tell you what this bed probably expanded twice as much yet. It's huge. It is a bit wider. Yeah it's pressing up against here a little bit. That's okay. It's a little bit shorter. It's got some space in there. That's okay but I wish I could convey to you or just tell you how comfortable this is. Like watch me sink in. I might disappear. I don't know what's going to happen. Wow. I'm not even exaggerating. This mattress is amazing. It's just as comfortable as my mattress at home and we spent a good penny on that mattress. That was a good life decision. That was very nice. I'm going to tell you more about this mattress in the future. Let me sleep on it for a few weeks and then I want to tell you about the company that sent this to me and I'm going to tell you where you can get them as well. This is from Odyssey Truck Beds. I want to make sure that I send them to the or send you to the right spot so you can get a mattress just like this as well but like I said give me a couple of weeks and I'm going to tell you what it's like. I haven't even actually slept on it overnight yet and that's the true test. We'll talk about it more in the morning. I'm going to go to bed here now though. This has been a mishmash of my whole time at home. We were home, got home on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and today is Wednesday. There you go.  We had to wait for some parts and what all got done. Full service. I had an actuator replaced in my cab because my vents were getting stuck on like just the feet or just the defrost and there's an actuator in there that needed to be replaced. Figured that out. Like I said, there's a leak for the coolant going to the heater core and the sleeper here. They got that fixed up for me. Got the heat going in here now so that's good and my hood cables got replaced. I noticed that. Just little things keeping up with this truck making sure that it lasts forever for me as long as we possibly can get it to. Got diesel with me this trip so I'm not sure exactly what we're going to be doing tomorrow but we'll find out then. Thanks for tuning in and hanging out with us for my home time. I hope it entertained you. If it did, give me a thumbs up. Helps me out a lot and leave me a comment down below. We'll see you tomorrow for a full day of trucking.