Well good evening everyone and thank you all for being here tonight and it's a really nice intimate group and Just so happy to have had a little bit of time to meet some of you and just thank you all for coming here tonight We really appreciate it. My name is Patty Boyle And I'm the assistant deputy minister of the of the child care division for the Ministry of Education and child care And before I begin I'd like to acknowledge that we're very grateful to host our dinner today In our awards this evening on the traditional and unceded territory of the Musqueam nation so to help us Welcome us to this territory acknowledge this territory and to begin in the right way I'd like to welcome to the podium Musqueam elder Mary Point Mary Hi to God see him. Hi to God I see I'm the CIA I see I'm the CIA and the Mary Point to need to know who must go home I'm me. It's a quick quillum ear to e mull some mull some in the language of my ancestors I let you know my name is Mary Point I'm from Musqueam and I welcomed you in the way in which I've been taught to do and I let you know that today We're sitting in an area that we called the place of the blueberries It's a place where we would actually come come and gather it grew so densely here on this island in the Delta My family the point family hails from the village of Kuyah Kuyah for those of you who know this area of Richmond is Actually been renamed as Gary Point in Steepston renamed by Captain Vancouver who like the Spanish before him Just named renamed places after their friends and compadres I am I'm very pleased to be here with childcare workers to me Children are have always filled my heart I thought I would have six of them at least but I only ever had one but our house Growing up and also when I was raising my son here in Richmond was always a place where people drop their children off To hang out we did have an informal daycare I'll say I was also a foster parent for six years and Had 36 children during that time and actually got an award from the province for outstanding service to foster children But that was way back in the 90s. So it isn't like these this prestigious thing I think it was just something that came in the mail or was handed to me by our social worker but but I'm really pleased to be here because My daughter-in-law who lives with me along with my son and my two grandchildren and their three dogs My daughter-in-law got her a C e Certificate last year and she's back at school while working at a local daycare here she's Working towards the full degree. So I'm really excited for her and I I learn a lot more about all the Formalities of raising children so different from how I might have handled it Not so not so strategically more make them go in a line or keep them busy So teach them lots and lots of songs. I would say we always would have book or dance before bed But I just I digress so I don't want to take up too much time. I'm mindful while I'm here that we're a few days from Indigenous history month which begins on June 1st It's also June 1st is also a pride day internationally. So We I work at the airport and we celebrate both of those at the same time and we actually raised the musqueam pride flags at that time as well as as well as Standard pride flags and we have all kinds of activities that we do but for indigenous history month It's a very busy time because I find these are the times when people maybe pay a little bit more attention to this time of learning and reconciliation and Of course, I would be remiss if I didn't say I'm aware of the province adopted the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and and also have a whole section dedicated to the truth and reconciliation calls to action and I know those are a lot to unpack for most But right in the very first words begin with Legacy what is the story that you want to tell and the very first section is on child welfare And I think about all of the good work that's being done To care for children now and all the work that is yet to be done to ensure that Our children not just our indigenous children, but all of our children are taking care of in a good way The calls to action. I'll just say in this time of learning Once we move past the importance of looking after our children and families Focuses on education professional development updating business policies commemorating the children and Incorporates the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and and the calls for justice the 231 calls for justice for the murdered or missing indigenous women and girls And I just think when I think about all of those things and all of the work that's being done and the month That is ahead where we'll be Exploring and learning more about the history and unpacking what we can and making our decisions About how we can do better I really look to Leaders like those who are in this room those who are excelling at looking after children early childhood learning Are all the way to graduation? You're inspiring them and and helping them to unpack difficult subjects as well as fun ones and and helping them grow into Future leaders themselves. So we have a Saying in our community. I Tennis koala when Quincy Quetznala my heart is full when I think about the work that you're doing and And all of those who are getting awards for doing that good work this evening So to get us started in a good way I'm gonna share a song that comes from quiet It comes from my great uncle Dominic point his traditional name Tiak that it's our musqueam paddle song Which you may have heard if you've been anywhere in musqueam territory It's a song that we sing when we're entering a new community to let people know we're coming with good intentions And it's a song that we sing when we're standing in community to share a little bit about who we are And it's a song that we sing at the beginning of any new journey a wedding a funeral a graduation Or days like today as we journey into these awards of excellence and celebrate your total awesomeness so I'll also sing it for our children and And and because it's a song of the land I have two people already committed to sing with me Well one ball and told and one committed, but so I'm gonna sing it once and then I'll sing it again And maybe you'll join in And so many good singers in the water They sing it over and over and over again until the ancestors come and sit with us But that's all that I have to share with you this evening one last teaching maybe I want to raise my hands To each and every one of the award winners and all the hands that put the work in for this beautiful evening And the reason why we do that is I feel lifted up to be here with you and I want to lift you up in return Hi, thank you all congratulations winners Thank you so much Mary for those those words and I raised my hands up to you just for all that you've done Just looking back and what I was thinking as you were talking about You know someone who took care of children, you know in the foster care must have really Imparted something to your family to make your daughter-in-law want to become an early childhood educator years later So we all raise our hands up to you for that wonderful welcome. Thank you so much And welcome everybody to the evening just a few quick housekeeping notes before we start our dinner If everybody didn't get a name tag name badge I think you did because I think I made my way around the room and saw that Antiphonese nodding and Fiona's nodding that you all got your name badges. So that's great So dinner will begin just as soon as I'm finished up here And we'll include an appetizer an entree and a dessert and we did have rogner from our Stakeholder engagement team who used to be a waiter actually go through the menu and tell us all about it And I said I might bring you up to actually, you know talk as you would as a waiter with the different choices But he said he maybe would hold off on that for now. So I Won't make him do that But there's a cash bar at the back of the room with alcoholic drinks available if you're interested and you can also order Complementary soft drinks and juice at the bar as well So just a quick reminder that the event will be recorded. We see that it's being recorded right now So I think everybody's in their seats and just relax and enjoy the dinner And then we'll be calling on our our minister to come up and greet you all after dinner today So, please just enjoy dinner everyone and and I'll be coming around to your tables too and Seeing what you chose and seeing if I chose the same thing. But but really enjoy today. Okay. Thank you everybody Everyone well, I think we'll get started again Finish up the conversations How was the dinner was it okay? Yeah, I hope you had some great conversation at your tables. I I was at this table and Found out that about half of us are from Saskatchewan. Oh And went in the back Yeah, of course right. Yeah, I have a Saskatchewan ruff rider sweater for my dog as well But I don't always I don't always put it on him when I'm around the you know the BC Lions, but Yeah, so I guess it just tells me that it really is the center of the universe of Saskatchewan because we're But we but we realize that it's a nice place to be from yeah so just Just it's you know, we're just wanted to say that we're excited really here to be here today to celebrate the child that Care BC awards of excellence winners And appreciate you for really taking the time out of your Schedules to come across from across the province to be here with us tonight. We're here tonight to really celebrate you Your incredible achievements and the tremendous impact you've had on Your communities on children and families all across this province and for that we really want to say thank you And a heartfelt thank you to all of you So without further ado, let's begin the awards ceremony And I'd like to take this time an opportunity to welcome to the podium our host for the evening Minister of State for child care grace law Good evening folks. I I'm very grateful to have a chance to have had the chance to sit at a couple tables So I'll have to come visit this table next. I'm I Really really glad to be here with you tonight. I've been in this role since December and I've had I More of an opportunity in the last few weeks to get out in Community and connect with educators and providers and I have learned so much and had such incredible conversations that I am I'm going to be able to take back with me to this work and Tonight is a continuation of that to really Have the chance to connect with those of you who are really fundamentally making change in the sector who are serving communities and families and to take the time to recognize and celebrate that we are as Patty said and as Mary welcomed us to on the territory of the Musqueam nation and the Coast Salish peoples I really appreciated Mary's Welcome and some of the comments she shared on kids in her house and welcomed into her home and The career path of her daughter-in-law. I know many of you traveled quite far to join us And I'm really really glad that you did. I Also want to thank the ministry staff who are here who made this possible and who do this work with us You know every day as we look to build child care as a core service here in BC Those of you who are here really have gone above and beyond every day to make life better for children and for Families and for your communities Offering culturally meaningful care that reflects the diverse cultural landscape of our province Supporting kids with diverse needs in an inclusive way and supporting others in the field With which is so essential. I hear so much about the needs for connection between educators and providers and the learning that happens there you really are the heart and soul of child care in our province and All the work that we do as government all the work that I'm privileged to do as minister of state Really only hits the road rubber hits the road. I'm gonna not use a great Metaphor here, but really with you in community. That's where it really happens We are five years into our child care BC plan with a vision of making child care more affordable accessible and inclusive for families in our province and I So believe in that vision and I know that access to child care is life-changing for families But again, it is you at the skilled educated and dedicated Professionals who provide that care who provide the connection and the learning opportunities To our children at some of the most important times of their life I've been saying a few times tonight. We know the science of what happens in those little brains at zero to five and You guide them in that discovery Taylor put it as Being alongside them as they learn you encourage them to explore the world. I know you're metaphorically and Literally picking them up when they fall down and I know that that when you do that You are also lifting up the communities and the families around them a few weeks ago at the EL ECEBC conference Elder Shane put it this way. He said that you were helping children become human beings and That is such powerful work that framing of this work really stuck with me and for far too long your field was not seen as the educated skilled profession that it is recognized as being essential for communities and families and we are committed to that I'm committed to that I feel a Personal responsibility to continue to lift up and recognize this sector And the educators the child care providers who who do this work? So to better support you we've been Helping with the wage enhancement providing better access to education and training opportunities professional development and I had a chance to talk to a couple of you about how you've taken advantage of of the ECE bursaries or the different ways to become educators And we've come a long way since 2018, but we have a long way to go a long way to go to make sure that you are early childhood professionals are recognized For who you are the skills you have the education you have and what you do in communities We're gonna have more to say on that in the coming months But just to to say that as minister I truly have the privilege and responsibility of working to support you and to ensure that communities around the province know What you do for kids for families and communities? And one of the ways that we are promoting child Childcare professionals and the vital work you do is by dedicating May as child care month It's a special opportunity to recognize your hard work to celebrate the integral role you play in supporting children families communities and Holding up the economy You know, I think that for anyone who didn't know the role of child care in Lifting up kids and the economy the pandemic was a reminder. I was saying my kids were three and five at the time. I knew We received many incredible nominations this year and I want to offer my heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to to everyone who was Nominated and everyone here this evening For your hard work and dedication I Do want to thank all the nominees and all the folks who put forward nominations really incredible to read about the work that's happening across the province and Now I'm thrilled to begin presenting the awards to the winners who are here in this room Again standing out among really really significant nominations this year so up first we have our regional awards of excellence and Our first award this evening is regional award for excellence in the interior These regional awards recognize child care professionals or teams who demonstrated excellence in child care priority areas Priorit priority areas including working collaboratively with others ensuring inclusion and encouraging diversity and supporting community efforts and continuous improvement of child care practices For the category of Interior region. I'm so pleased to present the award to gent Gent Harrison who is accepting the award on behalf of the Kootenai family place in Castlegar Hold on. I've got more to say Stand for me Kootenai family place has been helping rural West Kootenai residents since 1972 While still being an innovative provider that keeps up with developing needs of a growing and changing community They regularly collaborate with local organizations such as schools local indigenous knowledge keepers and Among among others to bring diverse range of programming to children and families in the area All of Kootenai family's places early learning and child care facilities are fully inclusive to make sure Children can access the necessary additional supports They encourage family diversity diversity of traditions and backgrounds and ensure that these are shared and celebrated throughout all initiatives One parent stated that quote their child thrived at Kootenai family place and that the children were cared for not just by professionals, but good loving people on a personal note I've had a chance to learn about Kootenai family place from the province's minister of finance Who is the MLA for the area and she is so immensely proud of you for this award? Congratulations to Kootenai family place Thank you. I just want to say On behalf of everyone at Kootenai family place. We're so proud to have received this award We've got great staff Especially our director of childcare Sally Buceco. She's worked for Kootenai family place for 38 years This is really more about her than me and her staff But I really appreciate it and I want to say it's so nice to see people gathered to celebrate the important work of Early childhood education. It's it really makes me happy to see everyone here And know the good work we're all doing. Thanks Thanks, Gent and To I think the way that Gent put it to have folks gathered to celebrate childcare and professionals in the sector I was Just at a round table in Abbotsford and one of the things that folks were raising is that, you know When they started in the field, nobody was talking about childcare folks weren't Having community around tables around it celebrating, you know, and again, we know What difference you make in the lives of children and family? So we need to talk about it. We need to celebrate it We need to support the sector I'm now thrilled to introduce the winner of the regional award of excellence for Vancouver Island the the winner of the Vancouver Island regional award is JLC Victoria and a I'm not sure in Enoe Eiko and no way how'd I do? I'm sorry I should have come to your table first to check you will be accepting the reward the award this evening. Come on up JLC is the only Japanese immersion preschool on Vancouver Island since opening in 2018 JLC has continued to expand and improve its preschool program in 2023 JLC Victoria began offering infant and toddler classes in both Japanese and English to anyone interested in learning Japanese language and culture with their children One grateful parent of a two-year-old child states that JLC preschool program made it not only easier But also enjoyable for children and parents to learn and maintain Japanese language skills While programs are delivered in Japanese and children are introduced to Japanese culture and traditions The curriculum also focuses on exposing children to traditions from around the world as well as local indigenous culture and history congratulations Thank you very much It is with tremendous honor that I'm receiving this award For my team and the first I would like to thank my co-worker Yuri Pomeroy Who is with me tonight? And it also hope for all my team and members in Victoria You know without their dedication and then also love for children. I wouldn't be here receiving this award for them and It's been five years since we open our preschool, but now that we have a infant-toddler program and also after-school program and then we are so happy that we have We can see our graduates You know growing with our fun program until like they're 12 Yeah, so I will keep working to make sure to establish the solid foundation for this unique and Very beautiful child care community for years to come. Thank you very much. I Just invited myself for a visit I Represent the community of Victoria Beacon Hill, so I'm gonna come come see JLC Victoria Now I'd like to present the award for regional awards of excellence for the Fraser region The Fraser region award goes to Charlene Waddell from Métis Nation, BC Charlene has dedicated the past 33 years to serving children and families in BC in the child care sector She goes above and beyond to supporting families Sorry families children and communities and educators to be their best by improving and enhancing relationships as The executive director of Métis Nation BC's Ministry of Education Charlene supports the mandate and the vision of early learning and child care Where Métis children and families throughout BC are provided with culturally relevant self-empowering early learning and child care programs a colleague describes Charlene's passion and dedication for her role as second to none She says quote. She gives 100% in everything and her contributions are immeasurable a Big congratulations and Marcy to Charlene She could not be here with us, but she would like to share a few words via video clip Good evening everyone. I wish I was able to join all of you in person I actually think I would be much less nervous speaking to you face-to-face than doing this in a recording in Person I would be able to celebrate and recognize all of the amazing early learning and child care professionals and their contributions in the province of BC Congratulations to all the award recipients and nominees I'm extremely honored to be receiving this award I'm grateful for the recognition. I've received For my work because I'm very sure that every nominee for this award was as capable if not more of winning this award I would not be in the position to accept this award without the inspiration passion And hard work of my amazing team at Métis Nation British Columbia And the leadership and heart of Métis Nation British Columbia's Minister of Education Deborah Fisher Without them this work would not be possible I raise my hands to all of them as I do to all of you I value and appreciate our partnerships with many of you across the province And understand the importance of collaboration and sharing and working together in order to create and enhance early learning programs and supports in BC As we strive to achieve increased access to affordable high quality flexible and inclusive early learning and child care programs and services We truly are stronger together Especially for our Métis children and their families Creating programs and services that are anchored in Métis culture and responsive to the unique needs of Métis families We need to listen with an open heart to the needs of our families and children As an early childhood educator for 30 years I've seen considerable progress in the child care sector I look forward to the continued work we do together For the child care system BC families want need and deserve Once again, I thank you and have a wonderful evening Good to have her here with us in spirit Next up regional award of excellence for the vancouver coastal region I'm pleased to present the award to violet jesson from capillano university in north vancouver Violet has been a leader in the child care sector for over 20 years She has been a faculty member of early childhood education department at capillano university since 2002 and she was instrumental in developing the degree program Violet has shaped and advocated for student teacher education The professionalization of early childhood educators in bc and has strengthened networks of support for educators children and families Violet is also a connector and a colleague And she's a connector and a colleague attests to her strong leadership That has uplifted the professionalism of early childhood educators Through her dedication to building and bridging relationships Strong and interconnected networks of ecs have formed both locally and in Locally in north vancouver and provincially within the many communities. She has reached out to congratulations violet. Please come on out so short I just um, I really wasn't expecting to say Any words, but I do have some so thank you minister lawford for hosting us tonight and really thank you for these awards And i'm so honored just to be among so many dedicated committed ecs I am also one of the other hats that I wear is i'm a chair of the early childhood educators of bc And we had recently written a position paper about the role of the educator In in british columbia, and so I just wanted to read It's just a really short piece out of the paper because it really speaks to To the work that i've done and really trying to elevate sort of the work that we do and and the kind of Student educators that we're trying to graduate and that those are the ones that are going out into the field and to really Create creating such beautiful spaces for children So out of the paper here some the educators they practice with ethical commitments So educators practice with ethical situational and relational commitments as they negotiate tensions contradictions and vibrant possibilities That arise in pedagogical work ethically intervening requires educators to pay attention to the ethos the ways of life um of their con context in order to foster more just and equitable forms and um Sorry, uh, equal forms of pedagogical practices with children and families Educators do not follow altruistic or utilitarian principles Neither do they assume a normative morality nor risk management approach Rather ethics is a doing and practice that occurs in the complex relationships And vibrant possibilities that are part of everyday life Educators practice with ethical obligations that do not involve the application of a predetermined answer These are responsive commitments to act towards a situated vision of a world that sustains life for all Yes, i'm tall Congratulations violet. I'm uh, so grateful for the learning that I have done Through ecebc, uh, and I thank you so much also for your role in that organization And last but not least, uh, we come to the regional awards of excellence in the northern region The winner of the regional award for the north is julie hutchinson from the ymca of northern bc in vanderhoof Julie started working at the ymca vanderhoof care and learning center in 2016 She actively works alongside the child development center and all of her families to ensure that each child is treated as an individual And is supported through culturally competent practice and the inclusion of indigenous language and culture One parent of a child with support needs commends julie's way of quote making children feel special and comfortable She also values team building and engagement and brings her team together often to connect and work collaboratively Julie could also not be here with us in person tonight, but would also like to share a few words Through a video clip. We'll have to hear from julie another time Um, I think we can still give her a round of applause Share an applause to show our appreciation and uh, I look forward to having a chance to connect with her and share your warmth and applause We have more winners to celebrate and uh, we're going to move to the innovation award The innovation award recognizes a child care professional or organization That puts unique and creative ideas into action to benefit children in the child care setting I am pleased to announce that the winner of the 2023 innovation award is wendy flagall from camloops christian school early learning center wendy has been working in the child care sector for over 20 years 27 to be exact i learned this evening At kcs early learning center wendy has made numerous unique additions to the preschool room Including many she has made herself which combines her passion for woodworking with her experience as an educator Some of the highlights include both indoor and outdoor full-size play structures for imaginative play and gross motor Gross motor movement improvement as well as play items such as wooden or felt letters and a light table She also values nature-based programming which has led to the design of an incredible outdoor space Her students describe her as kind gentle patient and loving While her colleagues have added unassuming brilliance humility and compassion Congratulations wendy come on up Um, thank you very much. I'm very honored to receive this And I work with an amazing team and a wonderful director And we all work together and it's great to have such a supportive group that we're a part of Thank you unassuming brilliance and compassion Thank you wendy We now come to our leadership awards And the leadership awards are given to educators who embody leadership by encouraging and guiding others displaying exceptional dedication collaborating and offering creativity and vision These award winners also accept or seek leadership responsibility when opportunities arise And take action to improve existing practices or create new opportunities in the field First up is the emerging leadership award This award recognizes child care professionals new to the sector with a maximum of three years experience The recipient of the 2023 emerging leadership award is Amy Mueller from Vanderhoof Amy started working for the ymc in Vanderhoof in 2020 She actively seeks out ways to enhance child care programs through outdoor time educational sensory bins Adventure walks and more Amy cultivates and maintains relationships that encourage communication between families and the center Which then strengthens the quality of care that children receive both inside and outside the child care setting One parent praises Amy's patience with her son as well as Amy's ability to recognize the child's development needs and to help him grow Being new in her leadership role Amy is actively seeking out opportunities for growth and to expand her leadership skills Congratulations, Amy. I'm excited to see where your career as a child care professional takes you And I know that people like you are so needed in this sector and make all the difference to families. Come on out So I wasn't actually planning on speaking so This is going to be very short. I'm not going to be near as eloquent as those before me But I want to say thank you to My mentor Julie Hutchinson who could not be here today without her. I would not be where I am She seen something in me that I hadn't even seen and supported me Through my journey from sawmill to Child care leader. I'd also like to say thank you to my husband for supporting me through my career change And thank you everybody. Have a nice night. Thank you, Amy The next category is child care leadership award in addition to what I've mentioned for both leadership awards The child care leadership award recognizes a child care professional or organization That has shown leadership in their community With families or with underserved or vulnerable communities This year we decided to present the award to two recipients as there were many outstanding nominations that we're deserving Our first child care leadership award is karen lasage from ridge meadows college Karen has won this award not only for her work directly with children with diverse needs But also for her critical role of educating our educators as an instructor and program chair Since joining ridge meadows college karen has led a complete curriculum refresh A partnership with katsi nation to incorporate indigenous content throughout the curriculum And oversaw the hiring of more than 15 new faculty members She takes a personal hands-on approach with her students assisting them with professional and personal issues whenever possible And karen has also put supports in place for neuro diverse students A colleague states that karen quote makes quick connections with children with diverse needs and finds unique ways to support each of them individually Her personal background and her work as a supported child development consultant for 17 years has provided a unique lens for her to guide her teaching methods Karen's enthusiasm integrity and knowledge has been instrumental in refreshing ridge meadows college ece program And to supporting students children and families in her community Karen i have to say i was very struck with how you described Encouraging and setting up your students to join this This profession as a serious profession that is so impactful and to really lift them up as they view themselves in that role Um karen come on up I as well was not prepared to speak I can talk about child development. No problem. This is a little different So i'm very honored to receive this award and i'm very grateful for my team at ridge meadows college In supporting me with all the changes working together to create a better program for our ece's coming into the field And i am very honored and have immense gratitude for all The child care providers i've worked with over the years The families and children who have changed my practice and have taught me so much I think i've learned more from them than i ever learned in my post-secondary education And i am so honored to be in this room with some familiar faces and some new faces So, thank you very much Our second recipient of the child care leadership award is rakel patrick She is being recognized for her outstanding service to the small community of n kwa kwa first nations She started work for n kwa kwa child and family development center in 2020 where she has shown exceptional dedication and leadership She has brought her experience as a primary school educator in the philippines to a small community In and surrounding the n kwa kwa nation She's described as creative energetic Empathetic empathetic that was coming out wrong child care professional who even though she did not grow up in the community Has engaged in cultural learnings with enthusiasm She can often be seen speaking Oh, i'm uh Can you help me out? Oh commutes Signing the songs and sharing the stories in her classroom A grateful parent states that she is quote caring nurturing and is a positive influence during an important time for children's development She provides exceptional service and support for families and her colleagues Congratulations Being nominated is really something for me, but accepting this award Is a big honor for a filipino who is working in a remote area in canada In behalf of my community in kwa kwa and our daycare and kwa kwa child and family development center Thank you so much for appreciating our effort and our role in the community. Have a nice night We are coming up to our final three award categories for tonight's ceremony The next award is the inclusive practices award This award recognizes a child care professional or team Who has shown excellence in providing truly inclusive care for children with support needs As well as displaying leadership and cultural awareness in providing a learning environment and program That is truly reflective of the diversity of the children and families participating in it The winner of the 2023 award is little badgers early learning program Located at on a a kiss kinnock A kiss kinnock. Thank you first nations in windermere carry records and Evelyn Walker But evi right We'll be accepting the award this evening The vision of little badgers is quote building and creating a society to foster and promote lifelong learning and cultural connection to all living things The center excels in providing an enriched environment for children with diverse needs and backgrounds This includes connecting with families and the community Through family after hours events communal food events field trips and bike rides One grateful parent of a three-year-old child with support needs states that the staff and little badgers have quote made every effort to accommodate the child's condition including programming modifications Little badgers is also a $10 day child care center and excels at recruiting and retaining ECEs Through their professional development opportunities and employment packages Believe me. I was taking notes earlier when we were chatting Congratulations. Come on up On behalf of the eva joseph learning cultural society, which runs little badgers early learning We just want to say thank you. This is quite an honor eva joseph is an elder On from the akiss knook first nations community And her vision was Everybody should learn everybody should learn the culture. Everybody should learn the language but celebrate who you are and that starts in the early years so thank you to everybody for recognizing and is a great legacy for for eva and The akiss knook first nations. We have an amazing team and if I Hands down the work that they do every day is amazing and thank you for recognizing the hard work Our next award for the evening is the the linora pritchard award of excellence Linora was a beloved child care advisor with the bc original child care society and a member of the muskwiam nation and the shim sham nation Linora worked as an early childhood educator in communities throughout bc And general generously shared her knowledge with other eces linora passed away in an accident in 2009 and this award honors her legacy The award recognizes an indigenous child care professional who demonstrates passion and commitment to their role This year's recipient is taylor parker from the comox valley of original head start Taylor is of matey background and is deeply committed to helping first nations and matey children with their education She demonstrates kindness compassion and leadership qualities as a new child care professional A colleague praises taylor's quote unique and culturally diverse activities for children Taylor regularly goes above and beyond for children and comes up with creative and innovative ways to learn I Was struck taylor by your description of learning alongside kids and what pulled you into the sector Congratulations. Come on up Thank you so much. Thank you for all being here and acknowledging the hard work that the eces are all doing in our communities Um, thank you to mnbc for helping me get through a lot of my schooling and to ecbc to also helping for a lot of the Problems that come along with schooling and great. It was very great Uh, I work at aboriginal head start, which is an amazing program in our community It's a free program and we can reach up to 40 children a day uh, I'm Currently next week going into the leadership position and going to be running it and I'm very excited. I'm Matey and it's been really really amazing being able to go and learn about the culture from the elders We have in the program and just dig deeper into The different cultures we have and everything and it's just a really amazing family that we have there and I'm really thankful for my boss for nominating me. I wish she was here tonight, but she's about to pop out her own Baby, so she couldn't travel But she's been an amazing mentor and aboriginal head start has been an amazing place to work And i'm so grateful and thankful for everything that they've done For me Yeah, get the casca. Thank you. Thank you taylor and congratulations for taking on the leadership role in the program We now come to our last award of the evening, which is the lifetime achievement award The lifetime achievement award recognizes a professional who has been a leader in the sector for over 20 years With an established history of distinguished service The winner of this award embodies leadership by encouraging and guiding others Displaying exceptional dedication collaboration creativity and vision They have also Sorry, it's a long list of things you've done. I thought I was rereading something, but it's more good things They have also established a lasting contribution to child care practice Which demonstrates knowledge and skills that provide or support high quality child care The winner of the 2023 child care bc lifetime achievement award is connie connie started her career at the ymca in 1990 and began her leadership journey in 1995 In 2007 connie became the senior educator at bob and k Aakles nanoc house and in 2021 she transitioned to metrotown ymca child care as the team lead A colleague notes that connie quote thrives when helping others to step out of their comfort zone and embrace different perspectives Everywhere she goes connie has created a sense of home where all are welcome She has fostered this feeling through the building networks to support families who are struggling and ensure children Are supported beyond the hours of the child care program Connie also works tirelessly to incorporate truth and reconciliations in her programs Partnering with elders to create culturally safe spaces and programming and ensuring continuous connection to community connie has coached new eces guided midcare career midcareer child care professionals Through growth opportunities and demonstrated remarkable dedication to the children and families she serves Her role as a workshop facilitator mentor and partner in training specialists Is a clear example of the legacy she continues to create Her vision for excellence over a 30 year career has inspired individuals of all ages to be the best they can be Congratulations on your achievement connie. Let's welcome her to the podium to share a few words I as well was not prepared to speak but I just want to I know I'm short too Um, just I've had the honor and privilege of working with so many amazing mentors Um, and they've shared with me all their teachings from the managers to the staff to the children and families It's just with great gratitude that I accept this award on their behalf as well Thank you.  It was clear in the conversations. I had a Chance to have with you at tables over dinner and dessert Without you children would miss out on opportunities for learning for social emotional development and for the play That benefits them so much At the same time their caregivers would not be able to pursue work or education or other opportunities Our families communities and the economy Are stronger for the work that you do every day As minister of state for child care, uh, and as a mom, I want to thank you again for your hard work and care And, uh, please one more round of applause


There's a lot of anxiety that can come along with expecting a brand new baby. So in this video, I brought over two very special guests to talk about it. What is up, everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul, where we talk about the problem, but focus on the solution. And if you're new to my channel, my channel is all about mental health. So if you're into that, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell. So, yeah, those of you who don't know, I'm a father. I have a beautiful 10 year old boy. Why did I call him beautiful? I don't know. Anyways, he's going to actually be 10 on New Year's Eve. And yeah, like there are so many mental health topics around parenting and I don't do nearly as enough. So I brought over my friend, Dan and his lovely wife, Amanda, who have a channel called Parent Passive Fire to discuss some of these things. So Dan is one of the coolest guys I've ever met. I actually, I've known him for a while, but I met him in person at VidSum a couple months ago.  Since you have a parenting channel, do some videos about parenting. Cause I know I've done some videos with my son. Like those of you who were around during the Shane Dawson series, I brought him on and people were like, Oh, more videos about parenting. So I thought it'd be awesome to introduce you guys to Dan and his wife, Amanda. So anyways, like just for me personally, I can definitely relate to a lot of stuff in this video because there was a ton of anxiety around when my son was about to be born. But for me personally, like I was in a different situation and I'm not like super unique. A lot of people deal with this, but I was actually still in my active addiction when we found out my son's mom was pregnant and I was unemployed and there was a ton of anxiety around it. But anyways, in this video, there's going to be a lot of tips and please do me a favor. Please, please, please do me a favor. If you are not a parent, like feel free to share this with somebody you know who is expecting a baby or thinking about having a baby. There are so many great tips in here, but also stick around until the end of this video. If you are a parent, because I would love to know your tips and tricks for managing anxiety as an expecting parent. All right.  Hey, I'm Dan and I'm Amanda and we're husband and wife, mom and dad and we are from the parent pacifier YouTube channel and our website is parent pacifier.com. Chris asked us if we could come on and talk about the struggles and anxieties that new parents have. We for sure have experienced the anxieties of being new parents. It's actually why we started our YouTube channel and brand parent pacifier because we wanted to be able to help other new and expecting parents, you know, deal with the headaches and the struggles and just know what works really because when we became parents, it was like did not feel ready. So in this video, we want to be able to give you our tips and share with you our experiences about the anxieties of being expecting parents. Yeah, when I first was told that I was having a baby, I was at a doctor's office and I was just going for a regular check up and so it was right before Christmas and we were only two years married, not planning to have a child right away. We kind of wanted to wait for a little while and I had to break the news, not the cute little Pinterest story way. It was like I'm on the phone with him. He's at work and it's 8 in the morning and I'm about to go to my job and yeah, it was it was crazy, but I'm so thankful that Dan took it so well and he calm me down because I was beat red. I had to go to work, like I said, and I had to calm myself down because I had to function all day and not say a word to anybody. So it was really stressful. I had a lot of anxiety about that and and I had an anxiety about what the next step is. You know, I always knew I love kids. We were excited to have kids one day, but I never knew it was going to be this soon. So even thinking finance, you know, we're in a one bedroom apartment and do we have room for a baby? Do we are we ready? Are we ready to put a crib in here and just our lives were going to be so different, but we were really nervous about are we going to get questions like where are you going to live and you know, how are you going to afford that and you know, well, life is not about you anymore. And so there's so many different things that came up and we really just went to our friends and our family for support. Yeah, I think having support and that would be our first tip would be to have support like a support system of friends, family, your spouse, if you have one and and for us, our church super helpful support system of just to have conversations about baby stuff, but also to have conversations about non baby stuff. There's so much anxiety and so much stress and so much like what is next during that nine month period. Yeah, more like 10 10 month period that it's like I just want to have conversations not about this and that helps really bring down the stress levels and the anxiety and feel like, oh, well, life's still normal. Right. Life is still the same, especially like for us. We weren't expecting it, but it's what happened. And so you just kind of roll with the punches, right? So having that support system of close friends, close family that you can actually talk to. Yeah, it's huge, but what I think is even more important than that, especially for the moms is to have one or two close friends or someone that you can go to that you can be honest with and that they can ask you questions and be unbiased, right? Because family and friends, even spouses, it could be a little biased on how, you know, basically the advice they give you or the question that they ask because you might not feel like you can say the full truth or say that you're really feeling overwhelmed. You might need to say like, oh, I got this, like, especially as a new dad, like as an expecting dad, you know, I'm like, I need to take care of this family now this new baby and my wife who's pregnant. This whole new responsibility and although it was like incredibly motivating, I was like, all right, I need to become an entrepreneur. I need to do something because financially we're not where we want to be in our living space. We're not where we want to be, but at the same time, it's like, I can do this. I could be, you know, the man, but at the same time, I need to be able to go to somebody that could sit down. For me, it was, it was my friend and pastor who I was able to sit in his office and be real with and also family as well. I could be able to do that, but I think it's very important to have someone outside of the family that you can go to and be honest with, especially for moms with, with the amount of things that can happen. Oh yeah. I mean, even just the pamphlet that I was handed that day of what you can and cannot eat. There was so much anxiety about that. And then I had friends who were also pregnant who were giving me advice about, no, you can eat that and no, you can have that. And I'm like, no, I don't want to get just seasonal diabetes cause I'm already pre-diabetic. So, you know, there was so much to learn throughout each step of the process of those nine to 10 months. And I really relied on my doctor as well. And of course, our family and our friends to just be, be real with and, and just be myself with them and say, you know what, it's okay if I don't know everything and it's okay if maybe my pregnancy is not like everybody else. So there was, there was just a lot in the beginning of just understanding and knowing that you're the individual, you're the unique mother.  You guys are going to be great parents. You know, it's not easy, but the birthing process was also kind of like the fear of the unknown. So, and I was like, I don't want to have a C-section. Well, I ended up having a C-section in the end, but that's okay. And my healing, my recovery was different than some of my friends and my family. And that's okay too. It made a bit a little longer or I'm still a little sore, but that's okay. That's okay. And get the help, get the, have your spouse do those massages.  So, so be excited. I know it's scary, but it is such a sweet journey and enjoy the process. I remember somebody telling me that in the very beginning just enjoy each process.  So, but we have our second tip. Right. Well, that was a second tip. Oh!  You have that one or two people that you can go to every single day and ask those things and take advantage of people who can give you time to go and do the things that you need to do. And our third tip, similar to what we've been saying, is when people ask like, how can I help you? Is there anything that I can do? Because everyone asked that, right? Oh, yeah.  But if you don't have a church, you know, not everyone has that. And for us actually at our church, they set up a meal plan. So anybody who's pregnant or has surgery or anything, they'll do two weeks of bringing meals to you. Every single day, people sign up to bring you meals. But if you don't have that, if you don't have that kind of opportunity, actually when people ask you like, how can I help you? You can say, you know, it'll be great because here this will really help relieve the anxiety of what's going to come in those first two weeks. It's saying, hey, would you mind maybe putting together a few people that can set up some meals like just so I know that I have dinner every night because I don't know what life's going to be like. I'm going to be exhausted and wiped. Can you, would you be willing to do that? And I know it's awkward, right? It's awkward to probably say that. But when people ask, it's like actually do it because it'll help save you that one more anxiety that one more worry about what am I going to do for dinner those days? Because I, who knows, right? Like you had the C-section and we were in the hospital for almost five days and never left. And when we got home, we were like, well, okay, we just knew shopping. Yeah, but we knew one, we had family who was bringing us food and two, we knew we had friends in our church who were bringing us food and they brought us food for a while. They really did. It really helped just not having to worry about it. Because otherwise there's a lot to worry about there. So actually take advantage of when people ask, like, hey, how can I help you? Or have them go and do something for you. Like I said, especially expecting parents, moms in that third trimester if, or anytime, even if you're getting like a lot of morning sickness, right? You could ask people like, hey, I need someone to go food shopping for me. Like here's my list and here's the money. Like here's an envelope or Venmo or something, you know, the money over and just say, can you just take care of these few things for me? Even I'm thinking about the laundry, right? Because when you're getting so big and wide, it's hard to bend. It's hard to lift things.  You can do a rotation. You can have more than one person that you're comfortable with to do that or help you clean the house even. And I know as a future mom, I was very prideful. I'm like, I have to do everything and I had to lower my pride and let people help me. And they had so much joy doing it because they love you. Now, tip number four is to take advantage of the free classes that are out there. A lot of baby stores, babies are us had a bunch of them near us until they closed, but bye-bye baby and other ones and also some hospitals will give free classes, free advice sessions or Q and A's, opportunities to talk with pediatricians and different things. Take advantage of those free opportunities and maybe some of them are paid. It's still worth I think going because if you don't know nothing like we knew nothing. Okay, there was this little baby, but I knew absolutely nothing. And well, like right after we found out you were pregnant, we were like, let's walk into target and go in the baby section. And we literally looked at the baby section and said, where do you begin? What do we put on a registry? Like the wedding registry was easy. Oh yeah. The baby registry, like what? Oh, so intimidating. We took advantage of things like doing a baby registry walk through with bye-bye baby. We really liked that because we had someone that can walk us through that was not family, that was not friends saying, this is what I like. It was someone that just from the store who was knowledgeable on all the different products and can walk us through what each thing was, what we could find in those sections. And it was like a good hour and a half. Oh no, it was like two hours. It fell so long my feet were hurting. But essentially it was like a free class and it was like where you get to learn like, all right, what's the difference between a glass bottle and a plastic bottle? What's your preference there? The car seats. Yeah, the difference is the car seats. All of the different products to like, making baby formula to all the different baby bath dubs and do you want to go with the expensive one or the cheap one and what's the difference like? What are those things? Take advantage of the free classes, baby CPR classes, things that you could take advantage of at that point. And schedule those things in. Cause it's a great thing to do and I think it does help. Maybe some it will increase anxiety because it's more things you're thinking about. But I think overall it will help you kind of feel more confident. I think that's the important part of like, all right, I feel confident. And it allows you to ask those questions. And tip number five is take a birthing glass. Yes, yeah. We learned so much in just three sessions. They were two hours each. It was three consecutive Tuesdays and we had a wonderful instructor who was sweet, who was very detailed on how much information that she can give you in just those short few sessions. And then we were in a class of, I think there was about six to eight couples and we were all on the verge to pop and actually one person gave birth before the last session. So that was pretty cool. And then we got to talk about her birth because our birthing instructor happened to be there at the hospital at the time and help her with the birth. So that was so cool. But I actually made a really good friend through that class. I have to admit the last two times out of three. I was emotional. I was leaving there in tears or literally in tears in the middle of the session. I felt that overwhelm this because I was so scared. I was so scared of labor and didn't know what to expect. I knew I had a good partner in crime and a good coach, they call them. But me personally, I was terrified. So I will be real about that. I cried half, more than half of the sessions. But what a blessing because I saw other girls feeling the same way and they would talk after class and they would say the same thing, you know, that we're all overwhelmed. We're all nervous. When is it going to happen? Is it going to happen before the 40 weeks? Is it going to be any minute now?  Like, I waited till the last minute to put that in the car and a lot of people felt like you should be doing it earlier. So, you know, you just never know. But it was a good experience. And what one thing I really loved is that every time I had my internals, sorry to get personal, but every time I had my internals, I understood what the doctors meant because my birthing instructor told me what each station was and the effacement and all these words that you're probably like, what? But I was able to understand what that meant and when I was really, really getting ready and when I was really lowering and it was, so that was kind of cool.  I need to Google that, what you just said. So having that birthing instructor tell you what things really mean in detail just really helps. So it was really cool. Yeah, for sure. And a lot of people, you know, say like, oh, well, you forget like all of it when you walk in and sure that could be true, especially if you walk in and it's like the movie scene where you're rushing in and like the baby's like, it's never, it's not most of the time, it's not like that.  It's going to take a while. So having that class for me helped me understand a lot of things that I never had a clue about. Like what, what about any of this stuff? But it helped me have confidence, ones who know what to expect without just going on YouTube and watching a bunch of, like I would never want to go in and watch birthing videos and all that stuff, but to be able to have a class with a nurse who ended up being one of our nurses during the delivery. Tip number six is just be active. Like go out for walks, be in the sun. You know, it could be very, I think especially for moms, you're getting that third trimester, you know, you're on your maternity leave already, if you are, and now it's just kind of you're on the couch and everyone's got different pregnancy. So some it could be really miserable, others are completely okay, but I think it's important to kind of get out and even for dads, get out and go for a walk. Be in the sun, it'll help clear your head.  So preparing for that, which I hope that doesn't cause more anxiety, just the reality. But you could kind of get that time out, enjoy the time out, enjoy the free time while you have it. It'll help give you some clear clarity of mind and I know for me it lowered anxiety. Yeah, definitely. I was sticking to my Zumba class every week and I had women look at me with such a shocked face and saying, why are you still here? Why are you doing it? And I said, well, I got to stay active, you know? I have to, I can't. Like I said, I was pre-diabetic. So I had to watch how much I ate and I had to exercise still throughout my pregnancy. And so I, with the women trying to convince me to stay home and don't come back, I didn't take their advice. I went with what my doctor said and she said you can do it all the way to the end. Tip number seven, remember to enjoy the small things. Like go out to eat, get a foot massage, right?  You know, for me as a dad, I enjoyed wrestling, watching wrestling like WWE. So having that outlet to enjoy, even though it's kind of stressful, remember to enjoy those small things and that will be helpful. And again, it's always, because it's just a season. Remember it's a season, it feels like forever. And especially every kind of new season with the kids as we're learning, you know, at a year and three months now of having our son, every few months is a new season and new struggles and new things and then new awesome things that aren't a struggle.  And then you're just, you don't get to enjoy it and you said earlier, you know, enjoy the process. I know for me right now, I've been scheduling with my closest friends from church that we're all moms and some are, you know, veterans or some are new moms, but we come together, we try to do once a month and I actually have like two people in that group who are expecting moms. One mom is gonna have her fifth child, the other one's gonna have her first child and we wanted to take time before they went on to the next step with having the baby and we got together and we wanted to embrace and just enjoy the time before that but we're gonna also do it consistently after. We're gonna invite them to come out because we want to tell them it is healthy to come out and to have some mom talk but not just about the baby but have some of you talk and talk about yourself care. That's very important and to also give the opportunity to ask those hard questions about, you know, are you having thoughts of depression and anxiety? Are they, are they, are you stuck in those thoughts and we want to be there to help so and be that support system for you? So I'm excited because from my experience I enjoyed my girl night out and I really needed that and if I was invited then I felt obligated to go and then when I went I felt so good that I went and I felt refreshed and it's okay to do that. I hope this was helpful for you and thank you to Chris for having us on and we look forward to seeing you in the next video. All right, thank you so, so, so much Dan and Amanda for coming over and talking about this. Like there were so many great tips in there and so many things like I was, when I was watching their video like I was looking back and thinking, you know, pretty much 10 years ago when we were expecting Dylan and all these things and all these worries and, and you know, like they said too, like get a support group, get a support group whether it's friends, family or like, you know, we have the rewired soul Facebook group or Discord server or there's tons of parenting groups on Facebook, you know, find other people who are going through this or like Dan and Amanda said, you know, they have their church but also make sure that you're doing things for yourself as well. Like self care is huge. Like something that I've learned as a parent is that if I don't keep this thing on straight, I am not going to be the best parent I can be for my son, you know what I mean? But anyways, like I said, like make sure to leave tips and tricks for all of you parents down there. Like what, what helped you like manage your anxiety and stresses and the worries when you were expecting a child, all right? Let's have a conversation down below. But anyways, that's all I got for this video. If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up. If you're new, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell. And if you would like to subscribe to Dan and Amanda over at parent pacifier and they will be doing even more guest videos, click or tap right there and there are also some other links and resources down below, all right? Thanks again for watching. We'll see you next time.


Hey, dino. Hello, I was checking to make sure I had the time right as the only person on. Yeah, we just run a little long on the show and tell folks will show up here shortly. I think this is going to be a fairly quick one. There's not. There wasn't a lot of items that anybody added to the contributor call that I saw last last modification I'll refresh and make sure. I should have added my stuff, but I was taking the weekend off finally. Okay. Good. Good. So, here's the antitrust policy. Everybody review the antitrust policy. That's your leisure. If the meeting is being recorded, please mute unless you're speaking. And if you have a question, use the raise hand feature. So general announcements. I don't know if it's really a general announcement, but more of something that I was hoping we can get some resolution on today is what we want to do about the GitHub runner limits that hyper ledger has run into. I think GitHub has started enforcing runner limits that they previously didn't. And in order to get a log jam of runner utilization cleared what we've had to do in a variety of different projects and hyper ledger is to have self hosted runners. And we have currently consensus has five amd 64. Basically easy to instances that are kind of augmenting the build load. And then when Rai has also clued us in that there's also the arm 64 runners and so forth. This really this only affects the GitHub actions stuff so this is more CI stuff but this time is not circle CI. I don't really know what the cost associated with the runner limits, you know upgrading the GitHub plan versus the cost of just providing basic specific runners is, but certainly looking for some some input on that if anybody's got any more color and love to hear it. Unless Rai is going to come on I don't see more color happening I'm not part of the TSC anymore because the Ethereum calls I don't think any of us are. So really we need to hear from from Rai. Okay. So maybe what we need to do then is to have create an action item to follow up with Rai to to see what we can do about this I think it's been kind of ad hoc. I had a couple of conversations with him about it and it seems like this is being treated like a DIY this is a problem that is being outsourced the individual Yeah, I think in the to your point I think in the absence of rival probably won't make a lot of a lot of headway with that so I'll take a follow up item to discuss that with him. Release updates. So, we had planned a 23.4.0 RC one that was going to be delayed until after Shepella, just so that we could prevent confusion with stickers and note operators about what the correct version to run is for the Shepella fork. What is planned to be an RC one right now is rock DB eight transaction pool layering. And the work that Justin's been doing on dagger to start daggerizing basic command and metrics, I think is the first cut he's making with doing dagger. Yeah, so we're still planning on delaying until after Shepella for RC one however, there's been a couple of issues that have cropped up in the last since Friday that are hot fix worthy. So we're planning on a 23.1.3 hot fix release and there's actually currently a hot fix release that's burning in right now that includes this particular issue. So the hot fix for execution payloads, they come in and duplicate, but they have different validator indices. And that just that created a problem that resulted in missed proposals for Nimbus and basic combinations in certain rare cases, but we've got a hot fix burning in for that and tentatively we're looking to do add another hot fix to that release to address an issue a bonsai issue that's related to EIP 158. I think that came up yesterday Daniel I think I saw some activity from you on that that Diego had uncovered a problem with with bonsai and certain certain situations. I'm going to be clarifying if it was forced or and bonsai or just bonsai because that would help us narrow down where to search for the bugs. I mean this is this is an issue for classic it's not an issue for main net, but because classics one of our supported networks we should support it, however it looks. Yeah, I mean this is if we if we do a full sync with bonsai then right around the time of the fork that included EIP 158 we actually get the same problem, if you're doing a full sync. Is a full sync even possible now with the CL setup. Yeah, it's possible. It's possible it's just takes a really long time. It's not not a long time but how do you get your first head node. You start with the full sync going forward as you normally would until you get to the merge block and then you backward sync from wherever the CL head is telling you is current. So it's kind of like a few parts. When I run it won't download any blocks until here's back from the CL. Anyway, that's that's neither here nor there so. Yeah, and the normal sync strategy that's how it's going to behave but if you've specified full sync it will it will actually forward sync until you get to merge I'm actually running a node right now. Okay, it's been a long time since I've done full sync. Okay. I cream I think you you put this PR PR up for for this right you were able to identify that this address the issue at least with main net. Yeah, I just prefer to have this one in the next release and maybe we will see later if we really need to keep this one. I think I'm asian will check what will be the performance impact to river this modification. I don't think it will be huge. But we need to check and I checked without and with this modification and by reverting the node was able to full sync again so. Do you think the burn in will be sufficient for quantifying any performance deltas or we want to do that separately, I guess. Just add extra data points. Yeah, I think I'm going to just do some performance testing on sync nodes because we. I don't think it is necessarily like to to sync from scratch snap sync or check point sync. As I have already some sync nodes, I'm going just to check if this river has a huge impact on performance and yeah so basically it won't take a lot of time to check. I don't maybe it's too late but just wanted to know what do you think to add also the PR I shared on chat. It's relating to a healing issue. So I did the fix because sometimes we can have a huge number of stock trace. When we have a hill so the user need to have inconsistency. But if the user had inconsistency and he is triggered. He can have a very bad log with a lot of stock trace and the node will not be in a really good state during the log moment. So I did a fix to fix that and I don't know what do you think to maybe push that in the 23.1.3. What do you have the PR number off the top of your head or could you find it? I shared that on the on the chat. It's a I see. 52 66. I don't think it's already in a release because it was two weeks ago so yeah. Okay. I see. So this is more of a cherry pick from. Maine. Yeah, it's a small modification so it's not beer. Too much to add but as you as you want honestly, I will prefer to have that. Yeah, I think we can probably discuss that on. On discord to make sure that we have consensus there. I think Simon might have. I'm guessing putting words in his mouth he might have some misgivings about adding additional scope to the hot fix specific to shabella but I'd rather let him voice his concerns. I think both 53 30 and 52 26. 366 both make good sense. So, and we can we can have that conversation on the contributors channel. Okay. So this is also the hot fix release tentatively we've talked about, like in and show and tell on cheaper this morning we discussed whether what the value was of trying to get this out. I think that the consensus on Chupa was that this would be better as a fast follow, rather than trying to rush release and get communications out for what is probably a fairly rare edge case that really only results in a missed proposal, not a consensus bug. And if 30 might be more concerning that would be more of a reason to to push that quickly but I still personally am of the opinion that this should be a fast follow. You have any thoughts on that dental. It looks like the fix for 53 30 which is the classic bug. I think the short term fix is to go back to 2210 whatever, because it looks like the bug was introduced in January. I think we need a fast track it because there's no hot there's no fork and 2210 whatever should be fine for classic. So I'm okay decoupling 53 30 and then 2313 in that regard. And maybe we, I don't know I'll let you guys decide but maybe we publish it anyway and we just say, if you have Nimbus upgrade everyone else you don't have to. You think before or after Shabella. If we don't do it and someone misses a post launch appellate it's bad for us if we know that the fix is out there. I mean at least we should get maybe not a full fix that we should have like a some build that they could switch to that we produced even if we haven't validated it. I don't know I mean it's this is, this is marketing questions out of my pay grade. I think technically we probably should pull 53 30 out of it, because there's a viable solution that doesn't involve pushing a fix as quick as possible. And I think the chappelle upgrade puts in a different category than the classic issue. Do you not think that main net is vulnerable to this particular issue, because I think it's been cleared. I've run the contract and they've cleared all of it I don't think it's vulnerable. I know there's some security issues that Martin's Martin or I think Martin isn't disclosing yet until classic finishes their state clearing, because it's related to that he's he's fairly confident when I talk when you mentioned that he's been fairly confident that it's not a main net I mean we could put it out there but I don't I don't see it being an issue because it's related to empty accounts from the Shanghai attacks. Okay. And that was, that was my, my quick take also I was, I wasn't certain if this was specific to that account state and an out of gas situation or just that just that you know whether the out of gas could occur without having that specific account state and leave leave this kind of problem state. But it does make sense that it would be specific to those particular accounts. I mean we do hot fix it but the only the only failures you've seen have been on classic and on pre Byzantium main net. Right. Okay, I think we could probably reiterate and get consensus on discord asynchronously since it doesn't seem like we want to rush a fix today we've got time to reach consensus. Well, across all the time zones. That said, work updates. Justin is not here today but I can kind of give a quick status on the inversion of control and decoupling work he's doing with dagger. I think I kind of spoke to that earlier that he is using the metric system as a incremental target for, for daggerizing a lot of the configuration that comes through basic command. And he's got a PR for that which I don't have at my fingertips. But I'll add that to the notes here. So that's coming along nicely and it's, it's pretty clean so I'm on the postman docs site. There really hasn't been a lot of interest nobody really seems to be that concerned about the postman doc site being down. I still need to talk with our docs team about using the same publishing mechanisms. And then mega EOS. Yeah, so one of the things I mentioned in the discord is I'm going to be creating a long live branch that is just the mega EOF stuff. Intended to be kept very well synced with main. The reason I want to do a separate branch rather than doing feature flags is what's in EOF is still changing. I felt better putting in when it was targeted at Shanghai and it had a fixed set of VIPs. But since it got pulled out the set of VIPs in the console those VIPs have not been fixed. So that's why I'm hesitant to merge into main when I know that there are changes being discussed but at the same time. There's desire to get all the different clients together and get them working together so we can test and validate some of these these questions. There still might be more off codes being added there might be off codes being removed. So it's it's not in a final state. You know it's probably not as final as 4844 is. Maybe a little less so. But just in that regard, because it's volatile I don't want to put it in and have it move around have different versions and apply that it's ready when the VIPs haven't been closed and a bow put on it. Right now the target is optimistically can come pessimistically Prague is the lead in Prague and can come being the the second half 2023 release and probably the first half 2024 release. So, cool. That's a good timeline if we keep it. I would like to go back to 2340 RC one is there still room for larger destabilizing changes in there. Definitely we were actually a little concerned that we didn't have enough to really warrant a release candidate series. So, I have some new evm fixes that I'd like to put in there. This is the right broad base and getting rid of the UN 256 and the operations I'm not. I might go as far as pulling it out of the storage apis but not necessarily implementation I've seen performance measurements on that and not quite as good which is kind of interesting. But as far as removing UN 256 from internal operations and moving over to the Java 17 switch statement I've seen anywhere from, you know, 20 to 40% all in. In some cases I've got like you know 400% increase on some operations. So, I'll get that PR ready and post my supporting docs for that too. Awesome. Any, any other work updates. Fabio would you do you want to discuss the layer transaction for work. Yes, this is also a candidate for the RC. The main goal is to be able to better manage gaps in the transaction pool. In the apps I mean when a sender as more than one transaction and the transaction could not be sequential by nonce. This could happen because of the broadcast of the transaction, they could not arrive in order. Or could also be a kind of spam attack in order to pollute the transaction. Actually these could also happen with only one transaction if the transaction by the sender is not the expected one for that account. So the current implementation. The new limit. Endling gaps in the transactions. So, the new idea was to create different layer for transaction. The most having a difference. First of all between the transaction that are executable so they could go into a next block. So they have the right nonce for the sender and then put the transaction that are not executable so in terms of notes in a separate layer in the memory. And starting with this. So I also created a special first layer where we keep the transaction ordered by active priority fee.  Then, after that, the other layer are limited by size. And this is also something relevant for for it for fall so we can have an amount of transaction. So a transaction pool that is also limited by memory consumption. The. So I tried to explain better in the PR. Where I also reported the test that they have done testing block creation in the current transaction pool versus the layer transaction pool. The results are good in the average blocks. I have 12% more transactions. It is also possible to scale to 100,000 transaction with the new pool easily because said before, since transaction are split across different layer in terms of their priority. Every layer has his own ordering and only the first player, the prioritized transaction layer is every transaction is ordered. While in the following layer, only the first transaction of the of a sender is over so in order to avoid to solve 100,000 of transaction. The deal is also to make these blocks extensible. It would be possible, for example, to add another layer that persist on this if we want to or specific layer that and block transaction in a special way. So that's a lot of more metrics in the transaction pool. And build preview a graph on a dashboard preview to make use of those new metrics. What I think is that is experimental and is only a can only be enabled on demand using flight. Yes, I fall for more information please refer to the PR and Yeah, that's that's pretty exciting that we could support 100,000 transaction deep pool without significant overhead. Yeah, the time in terms of block creation is better. It's better to say that it's better, probably because the number of transaction that we always sort is 2000 instead of 4000 by default of the current implementation. Sorry, that was muted. Any other work updates or anything they want to talk about. I can talk quickly. So I'm currently trying to to fill the flat database after the step sync. And also fasting is deputed. So I'm trying to do that. I started the PR. So we are currently testing on on girly and maybe soon on mainnet. So just to share that yes we are working on that. We are hoping that this modification will, if it's working, it will improve the performance because we don't have to keep the fallback mechanism anymore to read the tree when something is missing in the flat database. That'll be great. I noticed on other business, I think this might have been from Simon. Originally, that there's a proposal that we were replace the quarterly and bi-weekly with monthly releases a monthly release release cadence. Has anybody had a chance to review this looks like. They might have had some feedback already. That was on discord, we just need a deprecation process if we change it. So is the proposal basically that we don't do quarterly. Large breaking change releases because month I don't think monthly we'd be I doubt we would be able to do a monthly, like breaking release every month. It sounds like a spousing, like a tech whose style. Just release on a calver cadence. Without having release candidates, quarterly release candidates for breaking changes. So for a bit of color. Hyperledger initially required everyone to be on Semver, which was a total pain in the neck. Because they say that, you know, they're supposed to enforce backwards compatibility, but everyone always had broken stuff. Unless you're going to mechanically enforce calver and break API is when mechanical check the API is that you declare as public change. Then it's, it's marketing speak anyway. Calvert also solved an important problem with calling it basic 2.0 and each 2.0 is being developed. But one of the things that the other members of the TSC were concerned about was figuring out when major incompatibilities might start coming in. So the, you know, quarterly didn't seem like too frequently and having the caliber be done on quarterly numbers. So they solved that problem by a number. I think some of the people on the TSC that cared a lot about that aren't on the TSC anymore. It wasn't me it was some of the other fabric people that doing their fabric things. So if we change it, you know, there's there's a risk that the TSC might come back and ask for deprecation policy or to get some formal, you know, how do you communicate that this might include breaking change at some point. It might not really break you, which is not necessarily a good situation. So that's, you know, the only, the only thing to be careful of if you go forth with that is to have a plan in case the TSC asks these questions and have to know what's in place. Other than that, I really don't have any opinion on to what should be done. What do we think the benefit is going to be. So Simon's not here to defend the proposal but the benefit of a non quarterly of Calver release. What do we think that would be. We're not tied to a schedule. It's fair. I mean we're not that tied to a schedule currently but yeah that's it is more flexible. Because one of the concerns you brought was is it worth doing an RC release on this. So they didn't. So we keep with the patches and we just don't bump the month number. We don't do breaking changes more than four times a year. And if we're just doing minor feature ads, we keep the first two numbers the same and just bump it so it's not truly, you know, a release date version number. But every time that you break things you bump the Calver parts of it. I mean that's another option, but whatever Simon wants to do with it if he wants to go to battle and push for it I'm not going to stop them. So one of the things that we need to worry about is how are we going to communicate to users reliably that by the way stuff's going to break if you upgrade this version. Anybody else have a strong opinion one way or the other. Maybe we can have the same conversation in the APAC call where Simon will be on and he could make his case. Next impact calls cancel because of an Australian holiday. Sounds like we take it to discord. I think I'll go on record is saying it seems a bit like a deck chair rearranging I don't I don't see a lot of value coming from this amount of change. I do kind of like having a, a breaking change quarterly where there's already an inbuilt expectation that things might break between quarterly releases. From my perspective, I don't think the current process is broken in a way that needs to be fixed and just moving to Calver doesn't seem like it's going to bring us anything except the work to change that. It's my personal opinion. Well that said, doesn't sound like anybody else has any feedback maybe we can just take this to discord metrics review I think there's a cut and paste from the last quarterly. If you want to review the, the metrics I guess we can look at that contributor strength has increased by 321% and still on its way up. Do we know how we are quantifying contributor strength. I have no idea how that's measured. The charts look nice. The real. This was more of an issue two years ago. The real value when this comes to comparing it with the other hyper ledger projects. And that was when they were debating whether or not to depicate some projects or not. And I think they've come basically to a to a good place on the TSE. Some stuff like a burrows been deprecated quilts been deprecated. A couple of the struggling projects have been deprecated. So they're they're they're end of life now. This is getting in the ammunition they need to have a discussion with sawtooth about what's your future in hyper ledger compared to the other ones. The strongest projects are basic fabric and the identity projects and the identity projects are really the dark horse the the stealth project. There's a lot of attention there going on in there that's not, you know, gone big and majorly public yet so. But this is the numbers are hard to explain but when you can see them relative to the other ones it confirms and denies hypotheses they have and dealing with other projects at the, at the TSE level. I lost where. There we go. Road map review. I think we could skip that. Does anybody else have anything open forum, or we can give back 20 minutes and be done a little early if nobody has anything else they want to discuss. Okay, thanks everybody. And we'll see you on discord. Thank you. Thanks.