I'm going to just walk away right from that now. So I'm going to go ahead and introduce our first presenter this morning, Lou Tucker, vice president and CTO of the cloud computing team at Cisco. And his presentation, OpenStack, the road ahead for cloud computing platforms. OK, great. Thank you, Gary. Yeah, make sure to get these as you leave and then use them because everything has to run on OpenStack. So oftentimes, at these summits, I try to give us a perspective in terms of where we've been, where we're going, and why we're going there. And so I would like this to be quite interactive as well. So I'm going to try to make sure to reserve about 10 minutes at the end to have you all either comment or take questions. And it was no great yesterday, actually. I thought that was a really interesting perspective, particularly I thought around open source and privacy and how, really, those of us in the open source movement really, I think, are advancing everything that we need to do to keep this world open. So when I look out at the changes that we're seeing in our industry and the disruptions that we're seeing, I now take an Uber or I'm staying in an Airbnb, those are major, major changes. And I think when we look at those, what's behind those changes? I think of these three guys because I think they encapsulate the big, big shifts that we're going on first is in terms of the technology changes exemplified by Gordon Moore's law, which is that the cost of computing drops every 12 to 18 months. And there's a lot of us who are looking at the semiconductor industry now and saying, we may be at the end of Moore's law, but I actually don't think that the impact of Moore's law is declining in any sense. We're still seeing, maybe as Gibson said, the future is already here. It's just arriving unevenly. So we're still seeing Moore's law in effect in other parts of the industry going forward. The second one is Medcalf. Medcalf talked about how particularly the example was back in the age of the fax machines. You've got one fax machine, it's not very much value. You've got two, you can communicate with your business or your grandmother. All of a sudden, you have 1,000 or 10,000 and the value increases by the square of those things are connected. So that's a statement about communications and what happens with communications. And the path I've also given talks about how communication is the way that we transmit information and we transmit cultural values. And that's what I think is the very human part of our existence is that our culture is transmitted by information and therefore that goes essentially at the speed of light. And then the third is the economic environment. And that's where we're seeing new businesses being created and what they're really doing more than anything else. If you take Airbnb or you take Uber, they're changing the way something is delivered. It's still transportation, it's still hospitality, but now the method that has been used changes because of the technology and the communications aspects. So how does this apply to OpenStack? And when we're building out, continue to build out the OpenStack platform in a number of different projects that are coming along, I think it's good to think about it in this lens because we'll be able to see then what I think is going to be driving us forward. I don't know how many of you read Bill Gates's book The Road Ahead back in 1995. There's enough of us gray beards here, I think, in the audience that probably remember when this came out. And this was the age of the PC era. And this is where many of us were looking at this going, well, the PC's changing a lot because now we're starting to see communications come into the PC and an isolated laptop computer or a desk side computer wasn't enough. And that he really started to talking about and having other people in the company in Microsoft really talking about this information superhighways that we were about to see, which was the coming of the internet. And so now when we look at Open, and we obviously, that was a direction and we're seeing Microsoft sometimes struggle, but I think now they're time and again, they're adapting to the new environment going forward with their business and their technologies. Similarly for OpenStack. Since OpenStack was started about six years ago, those of us who have been it since the very beginning, it was about virtualized computing so that we could spin up virtual machines, NOVA. And then we could have key value stores, scalable storage that way, object store, Swift. And then we said, well, there was networking, so we wanted to introduce the networking aspect of it. And so these were like the fundamentals of what's going on, but now the environment's changed a lot. The technology's changed a lot. We're seeing a whole wave of new technology coming in. And so we're seeing OpenStack similarly evolve and we get to now look at the road ahead and say, where's OpenStack going? How do we embrace these new technologies? There's many I think in the industry who think that technology, one replaces the other overnight. No, these aren't waves that are crashing on our shores, for sure, but oftentimes what we see is the technology's picked up again and again. I was fortunate in being part of the very early Java team at Sun Microsystems. And now Java's legacy. Well, to me, that's success. So we see things have overtaken Java, but now almost everybody coming out of computer science departments knows Java and it's now become legacy and embedded into everything we do. So this is how these waves of technology and not only crash onto each other going forward, but they also bring technology forward. And it's important for us in the OpenStack community to really think about this. In many ways, I think that what we're seeing now is that OpenStack is becoming the kind of infrastructure play for infrastructure as a service that covers both virtual machines, containers, and bare metal. And that means that it's really becoming the software-defined infrastructure layer and that's what I think I'm gonna be alluding to a little bit later as well. So of course the biggest driving force in all of this is the internet. And there's lots of numbers out there and these numbers are getting so large, they're just kind of hard to really fathom that when we think of, for example, with almost four billion internet users today and when we look at this is global. I mean, so the growth of the internet is happening much faster outside of the US and within the US. And so 26 billion network devices. This is just phenomenal. So this again, think back to this is Metcalf's law. So the value is increasing tremendously because of this. The communications that with mobile computing has caused this internet to grow at this tremendous space. And that again, the modalities are changing. 81% of the, or 82% of the traffic is gonna be video. So we're all doing FaceTime, we're sending pictures. These are much, much, much larger data sets that are being sent around the world and we clearly are entering this kind of Zettabyte era. And at the core wall is, of course, is something that we all see or saying which is a software is really changing the world. And one reason for that if you think about it is that in one way, bits move faster than atoms. Bits mean pure information. Pure information is transmitted at the speed of light. Atoms have weight. You have to have FedEx trucks move bits. Even the fastest way to move data as we know is to pack it up on disk drives and put it in a FedEx truck and ship it. But it's still, it's physical. When we can transmit that all electronically we can go at the speed of light. And this is information and software encapsulates a program, it's information that we're sending. It's not really the bits of the program but it's the program itself, the information content. That's what allows anybody around the world to access this software. And so open source I think is particularly important in that. And if we look at like the growth of software itself just measured by GitHub projects, 35 million projects in GitHub today, 14 million users. If you're thinking of writing a line of code you best check whether somebody else has already written something pretty close to that. That you might be able to clone and adapt and use for your own purposes. This means that as an information media, communication media, how we share information this is how it's happening today. And this is just becoming embedded into everything. So it's no wonder that we're then seeing this transition between kind of the physical domain of computing into a virtualized domain. As we virtualize things, as things move from really atoms into bits, it explodes in terms of the capabilities and in terms of the amount of things that can be involved this way. So we're seeing things such as edge computing coming about that we're more and more pushing onto the edges of the internet and computing and with IoT devices and everything else. This is growing faster and faster and faster as we start to virtualize these domains. So it truly is the age of the kind of software to find data centers. And if you talk to CIOs and everyone else they are really finding that manually operating their data centers or operational costs are the hardest things to bring down. And the only way to bring down those operational costs are to turn it into software, turn it into automation, use automation through APIs to start to manage your infrastructure instead of sending out trouble tickets and sending people out into the data center to change wiring or configurations. We really need to be able to do this through the automation, through software, because software and information moves faster than anything else. So one way to look at that also is I think that easy kind of mantra here, but configuration and cabling now becomes code. And there's a lot of reasons why this is important. First and foremost, we write it down. We write it down in a way that the template here can be shared, can be stored, can be audited, can you have traceability of this? So by making configuration to code and then we're asking automation systems to replicate this and do it the same way over and over and over again. Because this is a proven way, this is a configuration, we know if you do it this way, you'll be okay. That's much, much better than somebody writing it down or going to in a notebook and opening up page 37 and following some sort of a run book. Let's get it all into code. And as we do that, then that code, particularly when it's shared in open source, starts to become standards. This is the standard way of configuring your systems. This is a standard way of deploying this architecture. And this is something that the standards body will never be able to directly approach. Just people will be too hard for us to write it all down and have it go through the normal standards process. Instead, these are then shared and being ad hoc standards that we all can benefit from going forward. But so we're seeing this real movement, I think, now with OpenStack as setting many of the standards for cloud computing going forward. And that I think is a very, very important contribution. Now businesses also embracing open source at a much faster rate than ever before. I think it's because that they're looking for, they want to avoid being locked in to a single vendor. They really want open modular architectures exemplified by open source and that they give these solutions and with the number of projects we're talking about, you have a large number of different solutions that are out there that somebody else has already proven validated and that you can then copy and apply in your own situation. And again, as I mentioned, this then drives the standardization process. So oftentimes I think it's a mistake to say is the success of open source dictated by the number of open source companies we have. I don't think so. Open source, I've talked about this before, is a way for us to collaborate. So the success is really how much open source software is being used. That's the proper metric. And so also the number of companies, if you look at, for example, Facebook and Google and others, they're very, very large contributors of open source software. They're not software companies. They're using it for their own purpose but they find it's highly advantageous for them to put that out into the community, have the community participate in that, that that helps their whole development environment because one of the most highly leveraged way, I think, to use software is to share it with the rest of the community. In cloud computing then of course we're also seeing tremendous kind of growth. That the number of companies now that are using cloud computing is growing rapidly. And in fact, what we're seeing is now, no single cloud is going to capture all of this business here. We're seeing the very large cloud providers, sort of the big three, big four out there today, which is really wonderful and we're seeing an awful lot of enterprises now moving to that, but at the same time, they're setting up private clouds in their data centers. And we're seeing about an even mix, I mean it goes back and forth or whatever, because there are advantages for sometimes there's tremendous advantages that we've all talked about in terms of using a public cloud. Somebody else takes all the pain of running that infrastructure and you don't have to do it today. But you may have regulatory reasons, you may have a configuration, you may have optimizations or a particular way of using computing resources that you can do much more effectively when it's under your own control in your own data center or it's at your own service provider. And so I think really moving into this world that there is a world of many clouds and that we're calling this hybrid cloud computing. I don't think hybrid cloud itself is a thing. It's a use case, it's how we use clouds today. And so I think this is really the dominant mode over the next several years that we'll see that we'll have this multi-cloud strategy going forward. And that will start to look very different also as we start going further and further out into the edge of the internet. Of course this is driving again huge traffic back into data centers. So this is kind of interesting to think about it as the internet has grown, cloud computing has grown, the network traffic within data center has grown even faster. And that's because now we're able to with the number of customers that we're reaching through our data centers, number of applications, number of mobile devices that are walking into our businesses every day, all of the information that's coming back into the data center. And that's where almost everybody I know has another strategy around how to handle big data and the analytics that they can derive from that. And increasingly now we're seeing what is the artificial intelligence you now need to use to help you understand this large amount of data that is coming into your data center. So it is very much this kind of hybrid IT world. Businesses are not only having to worry about the four or five major business critical applications that they're running in the data center. They have a whole new set of technology, a whole new set of SaaS services that they rely upon. They've got their data, they've got their application in multiple places in their own data centers and also at cloud providers. And they really need to start thinking about this much more holistically than what is behind the four walls of their data center. This has tremendous impact on things such as security. So the biggest thing now in security is really saying that you don't have a perimeter anymore. Perimeter defense is not the way to think about security.  You really have to look behavior. Who is accessing your systems? Where are the data flows going? Are you seeing all of a sudden an FTP server starting to pump out data from within somebody's desktop? Well, maybe that's not desirable. Maybe that's not supposed to be handling FTP traffic. And so you've got vulnerabilities that can exist within your own environment and you have to think about security very differently for that. Now this line tried to capture, I think, what is also on the minds of many of the CIOs, the waves of new technology that are coming about, the new shiny objects. And that every day they're probably waking up or on an airplane or whatever and they're reading about yet another technology they have to become aware of because their competitors are starting to look at it. And so we're really struggling, I think, at this time. And those of us in this room, I'm sure are feeling the same thing because I'm feeling it. Every other day I'm waking up going, oh my God, here's another new project. What are they doing? How do I learn about it? Is this something that I need to pay attention to and start tracking? Like I said, fortunately, since all of this is by and large open source, I can actually go and it's all there available online. I can learn about it. I don't have to try to call up the company to get information about this new product or whatever, I can do all my research through the web. And I can look at the code and by and large I can bring it down on my laptop and I can experience it directly. But it is difficult. And many people I think are really struggling as we move so, I want to provide some context around these technologies, particularly when we're talking about containers, I think we're starting to see a new kind of layering again of the stats going forward. That if we think of the lowest layer of the physical infrastructure, where you've got your servers, your routers and your storage, and then operating systems that are right on top of that. Now on top of those individual servers and those operating systems, we're creating a platform across the data center. And that's what I think cloud software is. Cloud platform software is really about abstracting all of those servers, all of those storage, all of those networking capabilities into a consistent layer where you can, through APIs, spin up virtual machines, you can spin up private networks, you can spin up storage devices and that becomes abstracted. And that's infrastructure as a service and that's a software-defined data center. But one of the limits of that is what we've done is that we've taken, we've abstracted, remember, the data center with the same things that are in the data center. So I see a virtual machine. Well, a virtual machine, you still essentially need to act like a system administrator for it. You have to patch your operating system, you have to bring in new applications on that. You can start them and stop them really quickly if it's great and I can run half dozen on my laptop. But the model there, again, is that of a virtual machine and we just abstracted and made it accessible by software. The next layer up now that we're seeing is really the containerized layer. So that's where we're seeing Docker. Years ago, it was Solaris containers. Containers actually are pretty old technology but it takes a different point of view. It's an encapsulation of everything, all the resources that an application needs. So this is a technology that's coming from the top down. I have this application, I wanna encapsulate all of the things that I need, which version of Python I'm using, what are the libraries I need, but it generally doesn't have, and it has expectations on the operating systems that it's lying, that it's on top of. But it's a way to encapsulate applications without mimicking a virtual machine. A layer below is virtual machines or physical machine. So containers are really an application-focused way of describing what is in the application and its requirements. And it allows us to spin these up very, very rapidly. Tens or hundreds of containers can be spun up every minute. And so it's much, much faster, much lighter weight, and perhaps much more portable. So now we can take that container and we've got a very high degree of confidence. We can run that container on my laptop, on an EC2 instance or on a VM in OpenStack. So the portability now increases dramatically because, again, it's an encapsulation of applications. So when we talk to people, I think it's important to try sometimes to separate the conversations to what people are looking at. The system administrators are really looking at a software platform across their data centers, such as OpenStack, and application folks are looking at what is the life cycle of their application, how do they manage it, how do they continually update their application and deploy new containers. At the same time, science is advancing. And this, I think, is really thrilling because in science, and as I actually used to be a neurobiologist, and one of the reasons why I switched from neurobiology to computer science, was that biology is moving far too slowly. At wet labs, we're doing experiments. Those of you who have done anything in chemistry or biology know it takes a long time to make progress and experiments can last years before you know the example. And I move into computer science that all of a sudden we can write code, things go a lot faster. Now they're coming together. So science, particularly around genomics, is becoming data science. So data science, big data, computing science, all of these things are merging, which accelerates that. So when we see that, this is a good book if you wanna just get an overview of what's going on in genomics at this time, we're seeing that science now, as it's becoming a technology, as technology is impacting science, science itself moves much faster. For example, here's a cost of a genome, of producing a full genome. It used to be in hundreds of millions of dollars in 2000 and it's dropping. And the top line there is what it would drop if we use the exact same technology as we were doing it before, just speeding it up by Moore's law. We'd still be at almost a million dollars for a genome today. Fortunately, science and computer science is also about algorithms. And because of algorithmic changes, we're moving now much, much faster than Moore's law. And the big, big change is gonna be when this, again, impacts in the economics, is that when the cost of doing a full understanding of your genome as an individual drops below $100 or so, every one of us will have that. This will be part of your medical record. Every doctor will have to have your genome sequenced because it'll be so cheap. Their insurance will actually mandate that you wouldn't prescribe something if I didn't really know the entire genome of the patient I was treating at that time. So economics, algorithms, and these technology, I think, is what's driving most of these changes. The other thing, if you look back at the history of computer science, and particularly like in Palo Alto and Homebrew Computer Club, a lot of things started out in the hobbyist world. And people were building things themselves or whatever. And now we're seeing actually with Maker and with Kickstarter and everything else like that, a lot of these hobbyists are driving a lot of the technology changes. We're not waiting for the big Intel's of the world or Cisco's or IBM's or even Google or Amazon. Hobbyists are getting into the game here with 3D printing and with drone technology. And we're then rebounding back into the industry. So now people are talking about how are they using drones driven by sort of the consumer gaming side of drones but using that in manufacturing.  So all of these things start to play on each other and again accelerating this rate of change going forward. The other thing is that know how really knows no boundaries. And there's another theme I think we're talking about particularly when we're looking at things such as robotics. Robotics actually mostly now are made in China. And that we really seem because the know how can go beyond boundaries, national boundaries and everything else. And so we really, this movement again of information that can be transmitted faster than anything around means that the entire world is now participating. And it's great to see actually what we're doing in OpenStack because now I think we're just at the point where in terms of the number of golden members now is almost 50% outside of the US. A little more than 50% outside of the US. So that's great because we are a global. So when we run these conferences, that's one of the things I'm most of vice chairman of the foundation, we try to put these conferences around the world because we are a global foundation. And that's something that I think follows then just simply from the fact that the technology and the know how is going to come from everywhere. Again, that creates continued acceleration. And even some countries, I'm an advisor to Qatar and they are largely dependent upon natural gas and oil. They know that's limited resource, that's going to run out. So they're taking 2% of their GDP investing it every year in R&D. And they're building science and technology parts. They're putting universities there. They've got a very, very progressive approach towards their future they know has to be in information technology. And so they're taking their petrol dollars today and investing it into the things that they need in their infrastructure to become a leader in not just Al Jazeera, where we probably have seen them, but also in terms of then information technology and university and trying to build some of the foremost institutions. Particularly around like Arabic natural language translation taking most of Wikipedia and making it available to the rest of the world. Shenzhen, I don't know how many of you've been to Shenzhen, I haven't been. But when I've read about it, it's just simply amazing. This is the next Silicon Valley. This is where the way that they've collaborated between the different industries there is allowing them to move much, much faster. Silicon Valley I think was fueled largely by our financial systems in terms of venture capitalists and how money was applied. This is being driven by how ecosystems of companies can work much, much faster. And I think it's a very interesting play. This is a great article from Wired. If you wanna read more about it, it's very, very fascinating. Again, know how, doesn't know any boundaries. So they can apply the same kinds of things and become a real powerhouse here in Shenzhen. So what else is happening that would affect OpenStack? Well, this is one that I'm particularly fond of since here in Boston in the early 90s or whatever as part of something called Thinking Machines. And Thinking Machines was an artificial intelligence company back in the 90s and late 80s. And we wanted to build a machine that would be proud of us. That was our motto. And to do that, we had to bring together like 65,000 processors, go after massively parallel supercomputers because we were trying to compete with what was the processing required by the human brain. At the time also, the Japanese had a big effort called the fifth generation. And this created a lot of angst here in the United States that we were going to be leapfrogged by the Japanese because they're investing heavily in large-scale computing and an artificial intelligence. We were way ahead of ourselves then. We didn't have the computing power necessary to really pursue AI and everything else like that. And so we went through a period and the AI winter refers to actually a dearth of funding from the federal agencies that just almost overnight stopped funding AI research for about 10 years, 15 years. Well, technology had to... Moore's Law kept driving technology until today. Now it's achievable again. Now we can talk about self-driving cars. Now we can talk about IBM Watson. We can talk about Siri on my phone. All of these things are now possible because Moore's Law has made computing cheap enough that we can start to apply some of these algorithms to this. And also, the amount of data that you need now to do machine learning has increased to the point where these things are rapidly increasing their capabilities. So if you think of the latest thing in terms of now a Go champion has been defeated. And one of the interesting stories if you read behind this is that AlphaGo, right at the end in the last couple of days, they sort of had run out of human players and playbooks that they had from previous games and AlphaGo started playing itself. So you have two versions of it each playing each other and it learned much, much faster at that point. That's kind of scary. I think for those of us who read a lot of science fiction, but I think it shows that, again, data is the important thing here. And now AIs are actually gonna be able to start having behaviors and when they have behaviors, again, behaviors create instances, examples, and you can start to learn faster. And this is, if you think about the way any infant learns and everything else they interact, they learn through interaction. And a lot of what I think we're gonna see in progress in AI is that more and more the interaction not gonna be pre-programmed behaviors. It's gonna be behaviors that'll be learned through interactions with us. And that creates a whole raft of ethical considerations and everything else that I think are gonna be quite interesting going forward. The other thing is that we'll often know about this. So the number of PhDs or whatever in AI that are coming out are not enough to satisfy what the industry is looking for today. And instead, we have to reinvest in learning itself. And again, because of the beauty of the internet, I think that we can say we can all learn through the web. And in fact, those of you who heard about TensorFlow and wanna play with it, well, Google put it up as an app. You can actually design your own TensorFlow. The software is freely available, so you can play with it, you can learn about it. But here's something that if you don't wanna write any code, you can play around with changing the algorithms, changing the feature detections that are gonna do, and to see whether you can come up with the solution here which is to identify this cluster versus the other things to partition this into two steps. So it's really fun. You can watch how this actually evolves and how many steps that are going on. And it is watching how many iterations it's going before it can arrive at the solution here. So I advise you to take a look. We'll be posting these online so the URLs will be available to you. But the fact that we want learning and doing it yourself is a part of how we cope with this increasing rate of changes. There's a real theme here. Similarly, jobs and online. So now you can go online. You wanna be trained in data science or in machine learning. Courses are available now online. And this again will I think help us meet the need that we have in this. One last area I think that I've been thinking about a lot is this whole notion of serverless or Lambda or functions as a service kind of computing. I think of this very much similar to what we've been talking about in the past is data flow architectures. And this is where the flow of data is actually driving what the system does. And what's beautiful about this is that now I think serverless is actually a poor name for this because of course it's running on servers. That's the only way computing actually happens down below but you don't have to think about it. What you have to think about it is writing a small function, one piece of a larger system. And you can break systems up into these different pieces given to different people to do or given to different devices to do. You can have your Amazon Edge device Alexa doing your speech processing for you so that you can talk to it or whatever. And then you can fire off an event that now will take place perhaps on an EC2 instance to do some processing of that. And so here's an example like how do I set up an assistant to tell me what I can get to the gym? Well, the assistant has to know that what gym I like to go to and my calendar. So it's going to interact with several systems to come up with the answer to say that three PM on Thursday is just fine. This means that I'm not even thinking about the servers. I'm not even thinking necessarily about where this software is running. I'm just saying I want this function to call this function to interact with this other function. And I think we're just at the beginning because of how we start to think about this. So to me, this means that there's a whole new raft here of like not only just like programming languages and frameworks and design principles for how we design these kinds of distributed systems that I think will be really exciting going forward. So I'm running out of time, unfortunately, but I just want to say that as we look forward to what we're doing in OpenStack, these are the things that I think are coming and that we need to think about what are the systems for that. Fortunately, we're building this in online communities. This is community developed software, so we all have a role to play on this. And we can look over as OpenStack is on two tracks right now. One is maturing. The other is continuing to innovate. And so we're trying to categorize a lot of this stuff through our marketplace and through our navigator, showing the number of projects and not only showing what the projects are, but allowing you to see how the statuses of these projects. So you can see in the maturity, how widely adopted is this. These are all considerations that we need to go into when we're thinking about adopting different kinds of technologies. And I urge you also to take a look at from the foundation we've been now introducing certification. Because employers who are looking to find experienced OpenStack engineers, they need to be able to know that these people have been trained properly on this. I'm not gonna continue to go into other areas, but this is where verticalization is happening as well, both in media distribution. If we looked at, we've got Comcast Xfinity, that is based on OpenStack. We've got Direct TV based on OpenStack. So a lot of the video stuff now is moving very quickly to OpenStack, as well as OPNFV, combining OpenStack with a lot of the work that's going on in the network function virtualization. So there's a number of sessions on these topics later today. And here's just the list, while I guess I've opened for a question or two, I'll leave this list up, so I'd love to have it stay the rest of the day. Questions? We've got a couple of... If so, please come up to the mic. We've got a couple of mics up here, so if there are any... I think I have about three minutes. You got, yep, you got... Or I can bring a mic to you if you don't want to... Oh, here we go. Or no? Hi Lou, thanks. So just aside from the network infrastructure, where are... Can you share two or three priorities for Cisco as far as contributions are concerned? Sure, I think we're... We do two, perhaps two ways. One is that our real expertise is in networking. And so we are continuing to, as you'll see in the rest of these talks, advance the state of networking. So for example, coming up next is really about VPP, which is a much, much faster line rate, software-driven packet forwarding technology. We've developed that, we put it out into another open source community, which is FDIO, and now making that available and integrating that, again with OpenStack, similarly with IPv6. So that's in our sort of core area of the expertise that we have in networking. But also, from a larger perspective in Cisco, as a company, we're undergoing a transformation like everybody else. So we are transforming from where Cisco's traditionally been and moving up into the software and to the services world. So you see, we've recently purchased, for example, AppDynamics. So in terms of application performance management, we're seeing much more of movement towards management itself is moving to the cloud. And so things such as what we have a product called Moraki, which is a how do you manage all of your wifi access points? You don't want to do them individually and doing from one data center. These are across your entire enterprise. So run that in the cloud as a SaaS application. And of course that we've had things such as WebEx, which is SaaS. So increasingly you'll see Cisco moving into SaaS methodologies for managing things. And even one of our OpenStack offerings isn't managed from the cloud as well, which is our private cloud on, remotely managed in terms of meta cloud that is managed from the cloud for the customer running in their own data center. One more, yes. Hello, great talk to you, thanks a lot. So OpenStack started as a microservices project to deploy cloud native services. And now there's a new foundation CNC that kind of sounds like the next generation of OpenStack. And Kala is one of the projects that integrated Kubernetes into OpenStack. Is there any working group or user group in the foundation to embrace the rest of CNC? Yeah, I think so. I think the larger question you're asking about it, what is the impact of containers gonna be on OpenStack? Yeah, and the rest of the CNC. Well, it downs. And I think with CNCF and everything else, we're contributing to both. And particularly with a project such as Kola, in many ways we're seeing, I believe that OpenStack is becoming more like an application that can sit on top of containers and that can offer containers again. So containers work actually, not only for deploying OpenStack as a set of services, containerized services, but then you can also run containers on top of OpenStack. OpenStack I still see as being much more focused. I mean, what OpenStack provides that you don't provide just by CNCF technology and everything, isn't the management of the infrastructure itself. So OpenStack continues to be, I think an integration platform for a lot of different technologies. While it's primary purpose though, it's still that software-defined infrastructure layer managing the infrastructure itself, presenting it as a virtualized form. And the form that can present it as virtual machines or as containerized containers, or even as bare metal, which then you can run just about anything on. But when you bare metal machines, even through like Ironic or whatever, are now treated more like virtual machines. From the developer's point of view, they can say, okay, shut down that server I don't want it anymore. And they can do it through an API. They don't have to go and file a trouble tick and have somebody run out to the data center to do that. So I think there's still a role for those things. And I think that we're seeing those, the different communities now work together. And most of I believe the containers today, like Kubernetes, is running on top of OpenStack. And so I think that's very positive. Thank you, Lou. Okay, thank you so much. A couple of things, everybody.


Hey everybody! It's DJ Boo and we're in the staircase of unboxing today. These two boxes contain horses that I do not collect, collect, collect. Since moving into the new house, I have obviously my large briar wall on display and then I found a box of stablemates that I had tucked away and like I never see them, I never look at them, I don't really collect them, but I put them all out and I was like, man, some of these are really nice. So there is a handful of stablemates that get me excited and I actually enjoy and I have them displayed above my computer in my windowsill and I look at them all the time because I spend a lot of time editing on the computer. So I have kind of grown a small affiliation to them and now I collect them and here we are unboxing some of them. I also have a small collection of classics, same thing. Don't really collect it as a scale, but sometimes you get roped into it. It's so small! Cute! I do not remember this. So I have like a very specific stablemate wish list and if you know anything about stablemates they're like impossible. Some of them are like Walmart specials or part of a JC Penney collection and it's like really hard to single them out. So this was one of them that I wanted to single out and he's like such a pretty color. He's so cute! I have a soft spot for this mold. This was one of my very first briars ever was a little Palomino on this mold. This one I think her name is Coco. Part of my new recent affiliation has been Glossy as well. She's actually super pretty. I think it's one stablemate guys. This thing is huge. It's one stablemate! This box fit two. This box fit one. Look at him. This is, I know this one's name is Chalice and he was one of the Collectors Club ones, but he's painted to look like the Auction Elboroso from Briar Fest that sold for like $20,000 or whatever it was. So being buckskin and dramatic and based off of that I knew I needed him. His mapping is crispy though. There's a little fun trio for y'all. I'll show you my little collection over there. So this is the little collection here. It's not super organized. I could do better.  This one here is like one of my all-time faves. I love her. Some of these classics are really pretty too and really fun. My two rearing guys, three rearing guys.  But I do need to like organize this better but yeah, it's fun. Thanks so much for watching and happy collecting.


Welcome to the Snap. This is the segment where we answer frequently asked questions in a very rapid fire format, so let's get right into it. On this week's episode of the Snap, I'm going to demonstrate to you how to adjust your captive cap. Now just like the standard cap, you can adjust the tightness due to your personal preference. Simply take your captive cap and take a quick inspection. You have your digger outer here and these indentations on the side. These are going to be your biggest points of reference to how to do this properly. To tighten your captive cap, take the indentations, put it on your forefinger and thumb and give it a nice firm but gentle squeeze. That'll tighten the cap ever so slightly so when you put it back on your device and now I'm actually able to lift up this dynastache without issue if I want a tighter cap. Now if I want it to loosen, I simply take that digger outer, put it on my thumb or forefinger and give it a nice gentle squeeze.  I can tighten it up just ever so slightly if I want it to be a little bit tighter and I'm able to get that to come off using a dynastache magnet without issue. And so it all comes down to personal preference. I recommend trying it out, adjust the cap, see what works best for you and then go from there. This is going to be the new way to adjust your cap. Let us know how you like this video down in the comments and what you would like to see on future episodes of The Snap. And Matt has been The Snap. Thanks for watching and be sure to check out our other videos here and here and make sure to subscribe and ring the bell to be notified for when we release more great content.


er questions? I have a question. You have got the dwellings on the property the houses all directed towards the south or south west and yet there's no as far as I can see there's no provision for solar panels to correct me if I'm wrong had you considered solar panels are making use of the good direction for renewable energy generation? Yes, sure. We did due to the constraints of the sites including landscaping constraints and the proximity to the green belt we had a very fruitful pre-application meeting with the landscape design officer and the urban design officer we felt that it would have been better not to load the upper levels of the houses with machinery and solar panels but that doesn't mean that we cannot think about it in the future because we can add them with a section 73 application or separate application. I'm not saying we rules them out but to clarify the massing to have a massing and that could be supported by the council officers we felt that the volumes should be reduced as far as possible really but I'm taking your point and I'm happy to come back to you with a more detailed question if necessary. I'm not saying we are ruling them out obviously the location is very good and the orientation is even better so we can have a look at that if I may have sorry one. Any further questions? Thank you very much indeed Mr Pandolfini Pandolfi Now we move to the local member Councillor Richard Williams who will speak on the application Chair so obviously I'm speaking as local member here I think as other members of the committee have noted this application that's come forward is for 48 units and it's a nearly improved application respective to applications that have gone before it's certainly more in keeping with the local area it's not entirely in keeping with the local area but it's more in keeping than the previous application the committee will have noted from the written submission the parish councils nonetheless continue to have concerns about the density of the development the density of the development is in excess of the guideline for group villages the H8 of the local plan the parish council has also expressed the concerns of some residents about access to the site and increased traffic movements and concerns about parking and members of the committee have also noted concerns about amenity space which have flagged up in the officers report and the single aspect of some of the dwellings there are two points I want to spend the remaining two minutes of my time talking about safety of the entrance and affordable housing I would just note one point very quickly which is several residents have asked that the commencement of the development be conditioned on the implementation of civil parking enforcement I understand that might be difficult but this is an area where parking is a real problem going down that road is like a slalom sometimes where the cars parked everywhere so it might be helpful if that point could be addressed a little bit later to really emphasise this local member firstly the safety of the entrance and particularly the pavement which has already been mentioned absolutely right as council reddrop said condition 16 is for a pavement going east of the site and that is really important because currently the pavement ends just where the entrance to this site will be and there is no footpath to the railway station which is on the far side and accessing from the village has to walk down the northern side I think it probably would be of station road across the access to this then there is no pavement and you are on the road because there is no pavement on the other side of the well then the way to get the station is on the road and crossing the road so it is vitally important that that condition 16 leads to a pavement that extends in front of the village vets all the way down to opposite the entrance to the railway station that is really important for the safety so I am reassured on that finally affordable housing now members have already noted that there is no affordable housing provision here now the a commuted sum is sought now the developer has just very briefly mentioned that the developer has offered to make a contribution as part of that commuted sum to a local charity the Nicholas Swallow charity which was founded in 1577 owns 14 affordable housing properties in the village and the developer has met with the charity and they have offered to make at least part of that commuted sum contribution directly the charity for a scheme the charity has to build two new affordable bungalows on land that the charity owns unfortunately and I don't seems to date back to a policy decision in 2015 we have been told that's not possible and the council's policy is that all commuted sums must go to the new build sum for the district as a whole now I would like as local member and I'm asking the committee as local member if possible to show some flexibility on that and at least that some of that sum be directed towards a specific affordable homes provision within the village I know in other districts commuted sums have been directed towards community land trusts I think that would go a long way to addressing some of the continual concerns about the lack of affordable housing provision in this site which is a significant site I would normally come with affordable housing the viability review says not but it would go some way as I say a long way to address local concerns if there was some real local benefit in terms of affordable housing from this application thank you chef thank you Amet have I any questions for the local member thank you Councillor Williams I was intrigued to hear the point about the section 106 for affordable housing not being able to be used to build in the village now I would have thought sorry but where is that stated is there a policy that says we can't do that because I'm not clear really I was told by the housing officer that there was a decision in 2015 at a housing portfolio meeting which is apparently available on line I haven't been able to find it that all commuted sums in South Cams would be directed towards the district's new build policy and could not be used locally so we'd date back 2015 I think it would be helpful to have advice from the officers on this whether it is possible for us to override the previous housing officer's policy decision should we so desire through you chef I'm just speaking of the legal advisor and if we were to override a position that's been taken on commuted sums that is established we would probably have to go back to full council for the decision to move away from that position currently we do have the housing officer available with us and I have got access to that information that council willing is referring to if it's helpful I can show the position that was agreed in 2015 if that's helpful in terms of what that resolution was Further information on that if we approve a position as it was with a recommend and advisory that we would like it to go to local area would then the housing officer be able to transfer it to the relevant I think obviously the section 1.6 is quite straight forward in that it will seek to procure a secure amount of money that we've identified for the purposes of affordable housing now whether there's flexibility with our housing colleagues to work with the parish around the scheme they're talking about that's something that our housing team could look to explore with them once that amount of money is secured but that would be for housing colleagues to initiate with the parish I understand the sentiment from Councillor Williams in what he's requesting and yes the idea is to deliver a affordable housing to the community that's been impacted by the development so I fully appreciate what Councillor Williams is seeing to achieve here it's just how we could potentially do that now we could look at putting in a local connection restriction into the section 1.6 that meant it was to be used for in the village of Whittlesford for a certain period of time and if that wasn't feasible then it would cascade back to the council's general pot talking into sums for affordable housing so we could look to put in a provision of that nature and that would be acceptable within the policy I would be very happy if we could do that any further questions thank you very much now we move to the debate we have members got ready members wish to start the debate I just want to maybe introduce my bit and ask planners to put you right if I'm misunderstanding anything because you know I've quite a bit of sympathy with Whittlesford parish councils sorry sorry I've got sympathy with Whittlesford parish council comments about affordable housing and density am I right to say that as a group village they ought to be expecting no more than that 15 houses and yet we've got one here considerably larger than that and also they could expect 40% of those houses to be affordable I'm also concerned about the pavement which council Williams raised seems to me that this just seems to be departing so far away from our plans that it's just I remain to be convinced I'm afraid at the moment I'm heading towards a no but I would be very happy to listen with an open mind to everyone else's comments council Hanley Hawkins thank you chair Phil would like to clarify the point of my numbers 3 chair the point about the numbers in this size of village I understand where you're coming from because there is a finite number mentioned but this site is nearly 1.3 hectares and it's a brownfield site so the exception there for us is to put 15 dwellings on a 1.3 hectare site is not making the most efficient use of that land it's in a sustainable location and therefore in terms of the numbers that we're looking at that position is really governed by the amount of land we've got to work with so that's why the numbers are where they are and I'll take your point about it but there's good justification in this instance as to why that is the assertion I guess it's about viability that they are not going to allocate 40% as affordable housing so that's straightforward viability that is the case with viability yes in this instance they've identified significant decontamination costs with the site which means that we're obviously receiving a suite of financial contributions which are identified in the report that cover a lot of our policy requirements the one that isn't being met is because of those significant costs to bring the site forward for development and that has a knock-on effect in terms of what can be achieved in terms of affordable housing albeit that we have got an amount for a commuted sum which is what can be achieved but I think that the cancelaw Halkins thank you chair I am still quite concerned about the design of the buildings especially the apartments and the fact that it's not sufficient outdoor space even for the houses yes, as I said before the current design is a lot better than the previous one of 67, but it is still at 48 dwellings the density is approximately 38 dwellings per hectare, which I think is higher than the 30 that will be expected in that site. So there still is not, as been said by someone else I am not convinced that This is the best we can get from this site. Yes, I'll take the point about the decontamination. But surely they need to have to do that before they put the land. Happy? Other speakers? Heads or the fame? Thank you Chair, a number of points of discussion here. The design, yes we do prefer dual aspect where that's possible, but I do think that the developers explained that Felly, yma, mae'r bwysig, yn cael amser gen i gael cynnig yma lle'r unigol hynny. Mae'n cael cael iddyn nhw'n meddwl i'r hanfod ar y dyfodol. Nid oes ymlaen i chi gen i'n cymryd i gynnogi'r ddylau oherwydd ar hyn. Maen nhw'n myfyrdd o'r ble, fel eu cryff. Ond yn cael ei bod yn myfyrdd o'r myfyrdd o'r werthfawr, fe'u ei gydag am ychydig o'i gallu siaradau betae gen i'ch gallu siaradau a'r sefydliadau. Mae'n cael ei gweld o'r kontaminatio, I might be happy to see that very new contribution to this has been increased. The developers have accepted that that can be increased. I hope that, as discussed, it will be made available to charity so we can see specific affordable houses built where they are needed and run by an organization set up for purpose. Previous application is not relevant consideration for us, Mae'r ddweud, mae'r gweithiau yn ymddangos i'w Llyfrannef, mae'n gweithio'r lluniau yma. Mae'n gweithio sydd o'r lluniau hynny o'r ddysgu hwy. Rwy'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n ysgu'r cyhoedd yn bwysig i'r gwahanol iawn. Dyma'r ymddangos, mae'n rhaid i ddweud ei ffordd ac mae'r rhaid i ddechrau'r lluniau, ydyn ni wedi bod yn rhywbeth nodi amlun y byrdd meddwl yma i'r ysgrifes llai yma yma. Pa am y Jeep, mae'n scrblwch argynnu'r rhan o'r penderfyniadau rhywbeth ac yr argynnu'n prif annu'r cyfnodau fitfydd. Rydyn ni'n amlun oherwydd y dyma, ac mae'n rhaid i'r ddechrau'r yr diffodol datblygu a rheswer o'r ar gyfer yr adeiladau llai awdurdod am rhaid i'r hŵr, Syeth. Mae'r ddweud yn adeiladol, er iawn, yn ddweud y maen nhw o'i wneud yma'r munud. Roedd â phaith yn gwneud yma yn y buswn i ddaf yn ddweud. Rydyn ni'n byw yn rhan o'r gweithio. Yn ymddell. Gweithio modd a'r hoffa i'r ystafell. 1, 2, 3, 4... 5, 6, 7, 8... Mae rhan o'r ddaf yn gwneud yn ddweud. That is six votes in favour to abstention, so the application is approved. Tri-fication, are we including the request to make sure that there is a condition that the affordable housing allocation is for local first and then can be done? We did say that we would look to have established a local connection as the first instance for that commuted sum. If that doesn't work then we would cascade it out. Thank you for pointing that point. OK, now we move on to application number 2204-785 for election 118 dwellings for residential uses along all roads of stewers and landscape down sylvia matters, a reserve matter application in Canborn. There is a town council objection and the proposals are presented for you primarily because there are, the proposals are significant for all the dwellings at West Campbell. We haven't looked at the site and we want to make sure that councils are happy with the type of developments it is going to be through to guide future applications in that area. The presenting officer is James Truett. We are just waiting for James to get set up on the system so just there with us. He is here in person. Have a 10 minute short break, OK? Thank you very much. Thank you, I'll just share my screen. Excellent. This application is for the reserve matters for the erection of 118 dwellings for residential use along with all roads, sewers, landscaping and all ancillary matters. Following the outline permission S-2903-140L and it's known as part of 2.1 on Canborn West. The application has been reported to planning committee following a scheme receiving objections from the Canborn Town Council. In consultation with the chair and vice chair it was considered that the proposal should be reported to committee due to the significance of the proposals in the context of the wider development of Canborn West. Sorry about that. Carry on. The outline permission was for the whole site which was granted in December 2017 which is shown by this red line here. This included up to 2,350 dwellings, retail space, office and light industry, community and leisure facilities and schools. So for each development parcel strategic engineering and landscaping element a reserve matters application must be submitted and approved by the local planning authority. Applications for the approval of reserve matters should be made to the local authority before the exploration of 16 years in December 2017 which is December 2033. So the site that we're looking at today is on the eastern edge. This is 2.1 here which is adjacent to Lower Canborn and is south of the secondary school and the future allotments and adjacent to future green spaces here and here. This is the location plan. The site as a whole has been historically used for arable use and you can see the red line just here. This screen shows the site layout plan. So the scheme proposes 118 dwellings with 35 affordable. The scheme provides two primary vehicular accesses which are located here and here. Several pedestrian and cycle connections around the edge of the site which are located on these edges here, this edge here and there is a connection path to the north of the site which is tree lined. Condition is recommended which requires all cycle pedestrian links to the adjoining greenways are implemented to ensure that these are available to residents from the outset. The scheme itself also contains a larger double lap and play along the way to the north of the site along here. I'll go into talk about these further later. The scheme has undergone extensive pre-app and post submission amendments which has resulted in design evolutions to include additional trees such along the roads in the areas along here and here. Reconfiguration of the layout of the site as a whole including the dwellings, junctions, hodents off landscaping and there have been improvements to the parking courts including vegetation, further vegetation sorry that is to break up the parking courts and parking spaces. You can see in these areas here and here. The scheme is considered to largely comply with the design code with key variations being building height and the large singular lap in the centre but again I've gone to speak about these further but the double lap has been evolved as part of the scheme and it was considered to be appropriate because of the surrounding green spaces and the future leap which would be in this area here which would be slightly off the screen. So if the scheme itself has received objections from the Camborn Town Council on the ground of excessive rear parking courts and poor design of parking spaces and there were also comments made regarding the lap location and the alleyway behind plots 1998 and 1996 but these were subsequently removed following updates and amendments to the scheme. So of the 118 dwellings 35 of these are affordable which equates to a 30% affordable provision of which 18 are affordable rent and 17 shared ownership which is around a 52 to 48 ish% split. This was due to viability issues with the outline application and it was approved that 30% affordable provision with a 50-50 split for the tenure being affordable rent and shared ownership. The scheme is therefore compliant with the outline permission and just from this drawing here just for context the red shading shows where the affordable rent would be and the blue shading shows where the shared ownership would be. And the scheme is considered acceptable to the council's housing development officer. This plan here shows the building heights sort of the greenish shading over the background is taken from the design code which shows that the scheme should mostly be two to two and a half stories. The scheme includes these blue coloured shaded areas, which are the three story units, which is proposed along this western edge overlooking this green space. And it was considered by officers to positively contribute towards the creation of this stronger secondary frontage and create a greater sense of enclosure for the future green space. And there's also a requirement for this parcel to have overlooking of the surrounding green spaces for the sort of security purposes and general protection in which this contributes positively towards. The next couple of slides are going to show some of the predicted elevations from some of the street scenes. And this area along here A, which shows the height of the three story buildings compared to some of the two and two and a half story, you can see this stronger frontage in this area here. There is a condition recommended to secure further details of the materials and architecture. And so some of the Town Council comments originally made reference to the doors looking identical, but some of these door details would be secured via the recommended materials and architecture condition. And so would be subject or potentially subject to change. Here's some more of the elevations as well, which shows the sort of central car parking courts, which if you can see on the small plan here would be this area here, which shows the indicative vegetation. So this slide shows the indicative landscaping layout and so the details of the soft and hard landscaping secured via recommended condition. And additionally, a condition is recommended regarding some of the boundary treatments and for some of the specific details of the lap, including its delivery, which is this area here. This proposal is supported by the landscaping officer. The site also includes water efficiency measures to provide possible water use of no more than 110 litres per person per day, which according to the local plan. And condition is recommended securing the locations of the charging points and the layout of the PV solar panels. And this approach is supported by the council sustainability officer. This drawing here shows the ecological plan, which shows the layout and location of the burden backboxes. And so this scheme also includes provision for hedgehog holes and a lighting scheme, which are called the back conservation trusts guidelines for sensitive lighting for areas and foraging bats. And is supported by the ecology officer and a condition is secured, both is recommended, sorry, securing everything identified on this plan in terms of ecology. This plan here shows the parking arrangements for the scheme. And so the design of the parking courts and parking provision, as mentioned earlier, has undergone extensive amendments and the parking courts are compliant with the design code. The scheme provides an average 2.25 spaces per dwelling and the parking courts contain landscaping to help break up the spaces and are located to minimise visual intrusion. On-plot parking is utilised wherever possible, and any not located directly on-plots are located in a convenient location adjacent to the property. Conditions are recommended regarding the details of the secure cycle storage. So this reserve matters application also includes the partial discharge of the conditions you can see on the screen, but this is also in the officer report and these relate to the outline application. So the proposals are considered largely compliant with the outline perimeter plans and the approved Canborn West design code. The scheme is considered to additionally accord with relevant policies of the local plan and the aims and objectives of the MPPF. The scheme is widely supported by consultees, including urban design, landscape, environmental health, sustainability and the highway authority to name a few. And the only objection received was from the town council, as mentioned before. Officers recommend to approve the reserve matters application subject to planning conditions, and it is also recommended to approve the partial discharge of the conditions listed in section 10 of the officer report. I will also include a small table just to help everybody. Thank you. Thank you very much. We will now come to questions of clarification from the officer. Councillor Hawkins. Thank you, Chair. Is it possible to go back to the diagram that shows the distribution of the affordable and shared housing? Yes. Obviously, my mind wasn't picked up properly. What is the colour scheme? What's the red and what's the blue? The red is the affordable rented and the blue is the shared ownership. Just looking at the right-hand side, there seems to be a lot more in that section. Not the perfect option that we tend to do. Did you say that was acceptable? Yes, so this was evolved with the council's housing development officer and it was considered acceptable by them. It's something that's evolved throughout the scheme from the pre-application stage. This is just me. It just seems there's that big group there. And then the rest is on the edge. Still on that one, the parking spaces are all at the rear. Now I'm just going back to the objection from the town council. Excessive rear parking costs and poor design of parking spaces. Surely that is meant to not have cars dominating the front. Has that actually been resolved? The objection to the excessive. What was excessive about it? I believe that comments in relation to the scheme as it stands now. It was comments from earlier on. Throughout the design stage, officers considered that the scheme is acceptable and it's to reduce parking on the street in front of the properties to create strong elevations and stronger frontages around the edge of the site. To try and keep the parking more to the back of house. So it's outside of the general public. I see that. I can't quite understand what that objection is on. Councillor Fane. Thank you, Chair. I have some questions in relation to the sustainability policy. I see that the sustainability officer had no objection, but the approach was supported. Further information is required in relation to solar PV panels, et cetera. No mention is made in this application of, for instance, the heating system. Are we talking about gas or to what extent are heat pumps involved? What about cooling in whether what provision has been made for that? Very glad to see the additional tree line streets, but what provision for cooling? Yeah, thank you for that. So the outline planning application for Cambor West had a sustainability strategy. And so this site accords with that. So it is considered acceptable in terms of the, I'm sorry I was trying to go in order, the query you asked in regards to the location of the charging points and PV solar panels. So the quantity was agreed, but the specific locations were yet to be shown on a plan. And so it was agreed to then provide the conditions so that it can be shown later on as to the specific locations of them. I think that was everything. Thank you. OK, my point now. I would be interested to know the management of the open spaces. We've had a lot of problems in some other areas where it's been managed by a management company. And it's caused excessive costs to the tenants, necessarily, and the occupiers, not necessarily well may continue. And in particular, another particular issue has been lighting on non-adopted roads, which is then managed by the management company, sometimes in some areas with multiple different owners and difficult to maintain and tend to be badly maintained. What plans have they got through a long-term management of the green spaces and the lighting, particularly of the unadopted areas in this area? Thank you, yes. So my understanding is the town council, Campbell Town Council will adopt the open spaces such as the lab and the green spaces. The highway authority will adopt the general highway areas. Anything outside of that, my understanding is the town council. Thank you. Thank you very much. Have we any other questions? Councillor Redwell. Thank you, Chair. I'm not sure how relevant it is today, but I noticed that one type of house at least had doors that clashed into each other, like the front door was shown, clashing into the toilet doors. I just wondered if that's anything that we have, any power over that sort of building control issue. It's more of an internal layout issue. Yes. It's not something we would normally pick up on. I'm not sure which house I was talking about, but it's more of an internal layout matter, a planning matter. Yes, it's the Evely houses. I didn't look through all of the house layouts. I have to confess. I've lived in a house like that and I can't rely on your family to leave the door shut so you can get in your front door. I just wonder if we're planning houses that have faults already built in if we're putting an illness on house buyers to then have to fix something straight away, which seems wasteful. I mean, generally it's an issue for them, I guess, in terms of what they're marketing as the product. They want it to be as functional as possible, so it would be an odd scenario that, as you say, functionality-wise, if a layout doesn't work, it's really something for them to look at and turn to their marketing audits. OK, thank you very much. Councillor Sanford. Thank you, Chair. Could you just clarify the access to and from the site from the outside world? It looks like there's a single road in from the top left and something that might be a cycle path or a foot path on the right-hand side. Is that the limits of the ways in and out of the site? Yeah, no problem. So, in terms of the motor vehicle access, that would be there's two entrances or access to the site, so you've got this access here where my laser pointer is and you also have another one here. Oh, OK. So, that's the way towards the south of the site where there's parcel 1.5, which recently gained service matters approval, and then we'd follow this road out towards sort of the main spine road, as with this area here. In terms of some of the cycle accesses, you have the existing right-of-way that runs along here, so you'd have access across some of these areas here, and you've also got some pedestrian accesses and cycle accesses from such as where my cursor is here. And adjacent to the road where there's a shared cycle pedestrian route. So, there's several of them that sort of dissect this site north-south to sort of allow for better permeability throughout the site and legibility. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Any more questions? Thank you very much. OK. Now we move to the public speakers. They have the developer, Susie Hartas, from Vistry Housebuilding, who's presenting the the development. Thank you for being so patient to wait for the actual application to be considered. Just to remind you that we respect the presentation to three minutes. It'll be at the end of three minutes. I will ask you to finish your sentence. OK. Thank you very much indeed. Good afternoon, councillors. My name is Susie Hartas, and I'm planning manager for Vistry Homes. Thank you for the opportunity to address you this afternoon. I don't propose to take up too much of your time. But I would like to reiterate the hard work that has gone into the proposals before you today, which we've worked up in conjunction with your officers over the past 12 to 18 months, I would say. We've worked really proactively with all the relevant departments of the council to ensure that the proposals are supported by urban design, landscape, highways, and other technical officers and that they respect the principles of the outline plan permission and subsequent design code. Just to pick up on some of the questions that we've just had in relation to the town council objection, that was an objection to the scheme as originally submitted, where the parking courts were larger and had less landscaping. The alleyway, as they describe it, has now been widened, and I think the other issue was in relation to the colours of our front doors. So I think we have gone through two rounds of changes to address those comments, and I don't believe they ever commented on the new plans. In terms of affordable housing, there was a section 106 on this site, which determines cluster sizes and were in accordance with those on sustainability. We will be building these under the new building regs, and that will include a significant increase in the carbon reduction over the approved site-wide sustainability statement that we have to abide by. We also will have to carry out overheating assessments on our houses, and there will be a significant amount of PV on most, if not all, of the houses. In terms of management, James was correct, and the landscape areas will go to the Town Council, and if there's any lighting in unadopted private areas, they will go into a private management company. If there are any other questions, I'm happy to take them. Sorry, Councillor Hawkins. Thank you, James. Thank you for your presentation. Two things, the landscaping. Now, are you going to be planting this at the end of the building, or as you go along, because what happens is the landscape just gets chopped in at the end, and then some of it dies and doesn't look good? We, as a business, are focused on making sure that our presentation is there from the outset, so we will be looking at the way we occupy the site and will be landscaping as we go along, so it won't all go in at the end, and there will be a suitable management regime in place to make sure that anything that does die is replaced. Basically, once people start moving in, it will be good if there is something there that is good as part of the environment and doing it as you start building, or even before you start building. Yeah, and we agree. We want our residents to live in a pleasant environment from day one. One other thing, if I may, can we bring up the plan that shows the heights of the buildings, please? It's just, where it says three stories, it looks more to me like four stories. This one here, where it shows the street scenes. The very top level, the one that looks like the black on the left hand side, look at the roof pitch. That's another story. That's a three story, and you look at the two story next to it. Yeah. Is that, I mean, what's the ridge height? What's the ridge height of your three story and your two story building? I don't know off the top of my head, but that is a three story building, and these are where we've had the three story. That's where we've worked really hard with the urban design officers to create that sense of enclosure, which you do with higher buildings. I believe these are the same apartment buildings that have been delivered elsewhere on the site, but there isn't a full story in there hidden. Any further questions? Councillor. Thank you, Chair. In section 9.25 of our report, which is page 140, it mentions that the housing team had requested some M4-2 standard homes, but they didn't feel they could, they couldn't ask for that too strongly, I guess, because of when this development went through. I was just wondering what have you included in your plans to make your homes accessible to people with different needs, on for those new wheelchairs? So, as it says in section 9.25, the council's housing team did request the 5%, and I believe James's report is that because of the age of the content that wouldn't be required, as a matter of design or affordable houses are M4-2 compliant, which would be 10, I believe, so that's in excess of the 5% in the policy. Thank you. Any further questions? I will come back on the issue of management of the street lighting on unadopted areas with the management company. I have experience in my own ward of street lights being managed by management companies, and it's not a happy history. First of all, first of all, would it be any one management company? How can we ensure that long-term management is actually maintained? Can you give me any reassurance on that matter? I don't know whether, in theory, it would be one management company. They are decided as we go along, those kind of decisions aren't made yet. As I understand, the way that management companies work has become members of those, so if they are unhappy with the performance, I think they can vote them out. I don't know, James, I'm sure I can confirm whether or not there is a condition that requires full details of management. It's something that we could bolster in terms of private management if that was felt appropriate. There currently isn't one. It's just that my experience in the area is that 50% of the lights are not working after about 10 years, and I wouldn't want that to be replicated. I don't know whether it's possible to put a condition that could help on that. That's probably not it. I wouldn't advise that we can be requiring details of a management company at a reserve matter stage. I think if there were issues at the outline stage, this is just dealing with the detail of the application in terms of those reserve matters to be considered. Will there be any more questions? OK, now we go to the debate. Can we... I'm sorry, yes. Thank you for your idea. It's a typo, apparently. Just before we start the debate and move to a decision whenever that occurs, I just wanted to make sure that the recommendation is clear and there is a typo item 8 front page at 125. So the recommendation says to approve reserve matters application 22-02785-RMA that should actually read 22-04785-REM which is referenced to further up the page. So just making sure that is clear. Thank you. Do we have any comments on the debate? I think we'd like to speak. Chancellor Hawkins. Thank you, chair. It seems to me that there's been a lot of work going into this to actually bring forward what we're looking at which has no objections, which for a big application is unusual, but that just goes to show that the applicant and officers have worked well together on this. Frankly, other than my comments about the height of buildings looking like they're going to be higher than I think they should be, I'm happy to support this. Councillor Williams. Thank you, chair. Really to reflect what Councillor Hawkins has just said, I can't see any reason to reject this. I did just want to say one thing I touch no weight to this for this application, so this is not about this planning application, but this issue of management companies does worry me and I think we need to do all we can for our next local plan to get the strongest policies there, but that has nothing to do with this application. Councillor Wilson. Yes, as we've been going through and hearing from the applicant, it seems like the one objection we've had in this from the Town Council has always been resolved, so I was wondering why that wasn't in the report that these matters have been resolved. So there were no further sort of updated comments from the Town Council so their objection remained as it stood. Councillor Fain. Thank you, chair. Yes, the Town Council are not here this afternoon to put any further concerns. I share what Councillor Hawkins said about this. I think those involved in history and others have worked really hard with all parties both here and in the town to resolve issues, I think. I was satisfied by the answer I received earlier in relation to sustainability policy, but that is it's part of the sustainability strategy for Cambor and West as a whole. I think we need to keep an eye on this because sustainability is moving forward so fast new concerns are arising all the time, new techniques we're moving towards a time when it won't be possible to put in gas boilers and so on and heat dealing with excess heat in summer is something that we're really only beginning to take on board and that of course relates also to ventilation, but having said that it is part of the sustainability strategy and I see no other objections so I would be inclined to move to a vote to accept the recommendations of officers on this. I think I have a seconder. Can you just clarify what we're voting on? It's a prove and parts prove together rather than and or. It's not very clear the way it's laid out. Is the legal requirement to do one separately or is the legal requirement to do one separately? Chair, through yourself so within the recommendation which is wrong as members have cleared that's what they're voting on, both both parts on the one application yes it's both. So the recommend we go through have a vote to either approve as per the recommendation or to refuse against the recommendation can we do it by affirmation? Is anybody prepared to oppose? Can we then do it by affirmation by everybody? Great thank you very much and no against and no abstain thank you very much the recommendation is the application number 2204785 is approved reserve application is approved and the details reserved by the condition to outline planning permission S290314 is also part approved as per the recommendation thank you very much now we move on to the compliance report this will be presented by Rebecca Smith See you Rebecca Thank you chair I've just got some notes from Chris in relation to this report he said the open cases has been under reported previously as there's been an issue with the report not showing all the cases that are open so this will look to be resolved this will be looked at to resolve the reports and provide an accurate number and he will update at the next committee the report now shows the new cases from the beginning of the year for both south camps and the city but again unfortunately there's an issue with data extrapolation between both council reports so again he will update at the next committee a new planning compliance officer Robert Byrd starts on Monday the 17th and if anybody wants any specific updates can you please contact Chris thank you Any questions on the report? Thank you very much the report is noted now we move on to item 11 appeals so agenda item 10 also includes the appeals against the enforcement action perhaps has that been noted that the report for appeals on page appendix 1 now we come to appeals on planning applications perhaps Bill could remind us Thank you chair I wasn't planning on particularly highlighting anything to members they're obviously there in terms of the decisions we've had and updates or where we are with various appeals but if there are any questions I can attempt to address them now we'll take them away and I'll come back to you Councillor Hawkins Thank you chair on page 169 the decisions that we've been notified I notice that 1 2 3 4 5 all have been allowed which kind of raises my antenna especially for the one that was a committee decision 21 009534 the second one can we know what the reasons were for the inspector allowing it is that something that we can look at at a later date or something just so we learn from it as a committee through you chair absolutely I don't know if you've looked through the decision but I think you need to go through there were three reasons for views on that application and obviously the inspector hasn't agreed with any of those three reasons it went to a public inquiry so it was obviously the evidence was tested quite thoroughly by obviously us in defending the appeal and obviously the appellant's position that was put to put to the inspector so yet perhaps we can look at doing some more forensic examination into that decision if that would be helpful for the committee given that it wasn't overturned of the officer recommendation and has subsequently been allowed so I can take that away and look to come back with a summary you could perhaps do as a session even after this meeting the members would be interested any further questions thank you can I just add one thing we are going to also include the pins reference numbers I've asked for that to be updated on the report so if members do want to research those decisions you can do that yourselves but we'll get those included in the references ok it now only lies to me to the date of the next meeting the next meeting will be on eventually August 9 and here I will not be here myself so somebody else will be substituting for me as a chair look forward to seeing you in September thank you very much