Good afternoon. We're all here today to outline another important step with our all-in efforts to improve our waterways. As you may recall, in April, we officially launched the Vermont Invasion Phosphorus Challenge, or V-PIP, at the Vermont Farm Show. This initiative is a new way of tackling a very challenging issue, looking for solutions to reduce phosphorus in our lakes and streams. The problem we face is balance. We have more phosphorus going into our watersheds than we can take out, resulting in the excess of phosphorus in our environment. Currently, we're focused most of our efforts on just one end of the issue, working to address runoff in our waterways. And this must continue, because we have farmers engaged, working with our regulators to tackle this issue. And we've seen some progress. V-PIC is seeking proactive solutions, rather than relying only on active efforts. This is a new way of thinking about phosphorus and a new opportunity to solve our nutrient issues by removing phosphorus from the land before it reaches our waters. With the help of talented working group made up of scientists, business leaders, engineers, academics, and our team with the agencies of agriculture, natural resources, and commerce, we're now prepared to help move projects from concept to prototype. In just a few moments, we'll outline six proposals receiving state funding. The truth is, it was a very difficult selection process with more than 25 proposals submitted and a strong showing from Vermont-based entities. This impressive response shows the spirit of innovation in Vermont, and those willing to try to solve one of our most difficult environmental challenges. With this cruise, there is potential to reduce phosphorus loading to Vermont's landscape and waterways through innovative technologies and creating opportunities for new products as well. Just to be clear, the V-PIC challenge is in addition to ongoing measures being used in best management practices implemented by farmers and municipalities. These land-based practices will continue to receive funding. The V-PIC approach is a new way to think about and address excess phosphorus. We have to acknowledge phosphorus is still needed and it's valuable, but too much creates issues. By working with the private sector, this challenge is a win, win, win. It combines science, technology, and innovation. It creates a new model around phosphorus by promoting economic growth, environmental sustainability, and societal benefits. On behalf of my team, I want to thank those who participated in this challenge for your innovative ideas and commitment to helping address this complex problem. Secretary of Commerce Mike Sherwin will now share more on this reverse pitch approach. Very Sherwin. I think my role is to sort of outline what's different about this. The reverse pitch is the inverse of the way government typically does things. I'll observe that in the last year, I've been to a couple of different events kicking off things that were envisioned before I was born. This started in April, and it's coming to fruition in October. That's what's different about the approach. It's a much more entrepreneurial way of approaching problem solving, something that the private sector and small business in particular has embraced for some time. Traditionally, government puts out hundreds of pages of documents pre-prescribing a solution to a problem that we have identified. This is different because what we have done is put out on the street the problem and asked scientists, entrepreneurs, and innovators to come forward with their ideas for potential solutions and are embracing multiple potential solutions instead of just going down one road, which is the typical way that government responds to problems. So we're hopeful that this, one of the things that we've already noted is that the size of the organizations, the companies and partnerships that are being funded here is not the typical size of the organizations that typically get government funding. Usually you need an entire department that responds to requests for proposals in order to even respond to something that we put out. That's not the case here. Very short proposals were initially submitted. Science then backed that up and then we had an interactive process where there were presentations in question and answer period by a dozen or more respondents to the original set of proposals. So a much more nimble approach, a one that casts a much wider net for small and medium-sized organizations and companies to respond to and hopefully at the end of this process we'll have netted faster and more nimble and more affordable results from a lot of precarious tenants. And I believe this, I'm not sure if I can find them. Directly. Thank you very much. Anson Tepitz for the Agency of Agriculture. This is the part where we were going to announce the six recipients. Four out of the six are with us. We want to thank the governor for challenging state government to think differently about issues. I also want to thank the evaluation team made up of scientists and people in business and folks in state government as well. And a special thank you to Caitlyn Hayes. Caitlyn with the Agency of Agriculture. There's Caitlyn over there. Caitlyn is the project manager on this. Could not be done without her. Also, I think we have one member from the evaluation team, Eric is here. They're gently basing program. He was on the evaluation team as well. So governor, if you could sign the first check here. We are going to the first recipient for $45,000 is D.V.O. This is the University of Vermont. This is a project that involves 13 anaerobic digester vessels situated statewide to be utilized with enhancements of solids controlled using dissolved air flotation and develop a Peacake. Peacake product that is high in phosphorus for potential nationwide resale that will have to be verified and significant value to agriculture. So congratulations to D.V.O. and the University of Vermont. One of the recipients that could not be here today is from Enosburg Falls, which is agro lab technologies. Their project involves the use of a combination of existing phosphorus recovery technologies, composting and drying equipment and associated best management practices to demonstrate the technical feasibility of stabilizing and added value to recovered Peacake and similar materials. So agro lab was awarded $50,000. Our next recipient that is here comes from Vermont, Brickport, working with rock dust. They are going to manufacture, apply and study mineral and mineralized biocarbon soil amendments, what's called biochar. It will be deployed in the field to manage solution reactive phosphorus and nitrogen loss through broadcast field applications, animal bedding, admixtures and filtration media. So congratulations to rock dust. They are here with us and they have been awarded $25,000 to go forward with the next project there. So rock dust. Digested organics could not be with us. They have been awarded $45,000 by using an ultra filtration system on a Vermont dairy farm to remove most of the present phosphorus, suspended solids and pathogens and liquid manure, producing a transparent liquid ideal for field application known as permeate or tea water and a concentrated fertilizer that is readily transportable known as UF concentrate. So they are going to be awarded $45,000 that are not here. Our next recipient comes from the village of Essex, Junction and the Chittenden County Solid Waste District and UVM in this for $45,000. They use proprietary pipe descaling technology to remove phosphorus and Vermont sized wastewater applications. This technology will use induced electric field of amplitude and frequency that can promote precipitation of crystalline minerals without the dangers in damaging adhesion to pipes, pumps or intakes. So congratulations to the village of Essex, Chittenden County Solid Waste District and UVM $45,000. They're here. And our final recipient comes from the Northeast Kingdom, Green State Biochar with $30,000. They will be using local renewable organic waste materials that are processed in an innovative machine developed in Vermont as a prototype machine that produces carbon product called biochar. This phosphorus capture system utilizes this biochar to act as a filter that efficiently captures the majority of the phosphorus while producing valuable soil amendment fertilizer products for local reuse. So congratulations to Green State Biochar from Barber. Outstanding. Many thanks to all our companies, our researchers, our scientists for stepping up and working on this difficult issue. We believe in you. We believe in your work. And we look forward to seeing your projects progressing along the way. To talk about the next steps, I'll introduce Secretary of Natural Resources, Dr. Moore. Good afternoon. So I thought I'd just say a few words about where we're headed to following today. So as the previous speakers have noted, Stage 2 involves a total of $250,000 of funding allocated to these projects for prototyping, business case development, and demonstrations of the proposed technology over the next several months. Individual proposals contain a range of activities, things like pilot treatments, bringing a demonstration unit of a particular technology onto a Vermont farm and running it for a period of time, grow tests, developing mixes that use the recovered phosphorus and to do identify the best mix in promoting plant growth and field demonstrations with monitoring. So the range of Stage 2 work is really reflective of the different types of projects that are being pursued, but all of this work is essential in making informed decisions about what approaches make sense to advance to full-scale implementation. Over the next several weeks, a team will be negotiating project-specific scope of work and timeline for each of these successful proposals, and we expect that the work may take up to 12 months to complete. Beyond that, Stage 3 selections will focus primarily on the estimated cost per pound of phosphorus mitigated, as well as the way the demonstrated approach will allow that captured phosphorus to be repurposed as part of a value-added product. We don't believe that there's a singular solution to the phosphorus challenges Vermont faces, but rather a toolbox and are just completely thrilled by the range of tools that were submitted to VPIC for our consideration. And with that, I'm happy to open it up to questions. Can somebody just say in layman's terms what these things mean, what are they actually doing? Sure, there's a whole different range of technologies, but at the end of the day, it's trying to extract phosphorus from a waste stream before that waste is ultimately land applied or before it reaches a surface water. So some of these materials, the biochar material, for example, have a real affinity for phosphorus and the thinking is in the rock dust material and that you should be able to bind that and keep it on site. Others of these processes are looking to actually scavenge that phosphorus out before it ever reaches the environment. So pre-treating manure or municipal biosolids that would otherwise be land applied and reducing the phosphorus concentration in them. Does that help? Yeah, perfect. Okay. So do all of these recipients become part of stage three? They're not necessarily so. The vision is that two to three of them would be selected for stage three, but we haven't made any firm decisions on that. In large part, we're gonna wait and see what the results show us. We don't wanna over commit. If for some reason things need more work and we don't wanna under commit if we feel like the opportunities are really viable. And how much funding goes towards that? Again, we're gonna wait and see what the results of stage two yield. And if I'm understanding the timeline correctly, you said from now and for about 12 months you're estimating things to kind of play out and implement the prototypes and then after that 12 months, how long should we expect a stage three decision? I think in fairly short order, assuming there are things that look like they're really ready to move into that full scale implementation, our hope is to move aggressively with this. As the governor noted in his remarks, we face a significant phosphorus imbalance here in Vermont on the order of 1,500 tons a year. And so the sooner we can get at reducing that imbalance and trying to get back to closer to a zero sum game where we're using the same amount of phosphorus or bringing the same amount of phosphorus into Vermont that we're exporting in agricultural products, ultimately the better it will be for the water environment. So none of these would address the phosphorus that's already in the water waste or in the lake? Not directly, although the treatment designs that both rock dust and the Green State Biochar are proposing could be potentially used as an edge of field treatment to address phosphorus losses that are coming off of the land. Are any of these things offering happening anywhere? Some are, some aren't. I think there's some pretty innovative pieces that have been proposed here. There are some applications and frankly, we shied away from a number of them where they were either well under development or had other funding that was essentially intending to do the same work that we were hoping to catalyze through the phosphorus innovation challenge. So we've been fairly selective in picking things that we believe have direct application here in Vermont and we'd wanna prove out that by having the work done on the ground here in state. Some of these are private companies, some of these are municipalities, educational institutions. Does the state retain any ownership of these things moving forward or is it just turning over the cash to them and then whatever comes of it comes of it? Mike, if you're interested. Sure, those are things that we'll figure out once we determine what's viable and what the economic modeling is. Cost benefit analysis, what's the cost of deploy, how scalable is it and then there are a variety of different ways that the deal structures could be established but we don't have them yet so we haven't reached that point. Kind of related to that, is it up to the individual companies to show that there's a potential market for this or is the state as a whole kind of figuring out where markets are? In part, one of the things that we anticipate evaluating to move to the next phase is the scalability or the viability of the business model to sustain itself, not just the technology. So you may have a perfect piece of technology but the cost to run it and the ability to deploy it on a wide scale don't necessarily match. So there's a host of factors and a number of different variables and again, one of the things that makes this different is we haven't pre-prescribed all of these nuances at the front end. It's a very iterative approach so it gives the state and the taxpayers and the respondents and the folks getting grants a variety of flexibility at the back end to try to come together to find both select the best solutions and then create the best individual relationships and move things forward. Is it possible that the state could get into the phosphorus capturing business? We'd probably remiss if we ever said absolutely not. I don't think that's something we necessarily envision. That's why we've asked others to respond but I guess it depends how things play out in the next year or so. How did these different technologies, or I should say, did these different technologies as they are flying, how did they, everybody's proved that they all work, is that better said, even on a small scale or are some of these projects still in the theory phase? I think each project is able to make some demonstration of applicability so we have confidence that it's appropriate to move it forward. None of them are, in my mind, I call it sort of the crazy guy in his basement where they have an idea but they haven't actually formed it into a product. Biochar folks, for example, brought us a sample of their biochar, rock dust brought us a sample of their actual physical material and a clear description of how those would be incorporated into their design. So we have confidence that all of them are at the stage where it's really putting them on the ground and seeing how they function in the environment. Even at a pilot scale, that's really the essential to answering those questions. Those folks in the basement are called visionary innovators. Visionary, visionary, innovator. I saw it, there was a smile on all of their faces. I'd love to see a novelty check that said crazy guy in the basement. It was probably a t-shirt already. Now all these are addressing sort of point source, sources of phosphorus. So a lot of our problem with phosphorus is non-point source. How much of our problem can these things address? So I would say actually this really is essential to getting it at non-point source phosphorus. One of the things we know from research that's been done is that there is a strong relationship between how much phosphorus there is in the soil and how much phosphorus is lost as a result of non-point source pollution. So to the extent that we're able to scavenge some of that soil phosphorus or scavenging from materials before they're applied to the land, we are addressing non-point source pollution. And so I think this represents a really exciting opportunity to get to what is, you're correct, is 95% of the problem when it comes to phosphorus pollution here in Vermont. You also got in Vermont, like some of these things have to do with farms and we have a lot of farms. How feasible is it to put some sort of phosphorus capturing mechanism on enough farms to make the difference? So one of the entities that we've made an award to today, DVO, is operating digesters on 13 farms. But I believe those 13 farms and represent 20,000 cows or upwards of 20,000 cows. So we're able to have a disproportionate impact on sort of the total herd here in Vermont by working through that outfit, which was part of what appealed to us, frankly. And then we have some smaller scale technologies that are more maybe applicable to particular critical source areas, places where we have a significant phosphorus concentration and in close proximity to a surface water body. So we've tried to pick a mix of technologies to get at the full range of conditions we see here in Vermont. What does biochar look like? Do you have an example? Do you have any with you? Would you like to explain to me what it is? It's just charcoal, it's all good. So do you mind just explaining what it is and how it works? Let's stay up here with you. Thank God. I thought I could have your basement loose. Yeah. I wasn't afraid of that. Everybody looked in our direction. It's just wood with everything going out of it, but the carbon. The process that can't get oxygen in the process and that's what makes it a nice charcoal. So it looks like charcoal, it is charcoal. Correct. And then phosphorus binds to it, is that? It's very porous. So there's lots of pores in that biochar. So when the runoff is going through it, the biochar is absorbing all the phosphorus. Yes, exactly. And so this would be applied to agricultural fields? Well now you have this biochar enriched product, which is with phosphorus, and yes, it can be used on multitude of applications. Right now we have a lot of people interested in once it's absorbed all of its phosphorus. Hemp's given me a big thing up my way. We've been contacted by a lot of hemp farmers that are interested in that product. So you apply it in some way to a field, but then you have to go back out and get it? Yes, it's basically applied like a filter, like your household charcoal filter, it's the same way here. But then you're putting it on the ground, you wouldn't go back yet. Then it becomes a fertilizer on the ground, so now you put back fertilizer that you captured so you're reusing fertilizer. So everything you lost, you still have? Right. Yeah. Perfect. Yes. Can we get your names? This is Roger Peon, Luke Persons, and I'm Donald Peon. How do you spell Peon? P-I-O-N. Thank you. Like I said, that brings me to a question. I'm not sure who it's for, maybe Secretary Sherman. There's a lot of phosphorus out there, and the challenge. I would think the challenge is as much funding markets as it is developing technology. Are there markets out there? You're right, that is one way to look at the challenge. We haven't narrowed the focus of success just to finding a marketable solution. The first challenge is how do we positively impact the surplus of phosphorus that we're putting into the watershed on an annual basis? So sort of like first get to zero while we're simultaneously trying to clean up what's there. So that is a measure of success. The marketingness is the extra special bonus. We can positively impact the problem and at the same time create a set of businesses that thrive in Vermont, create jobs, create revenue, and recycle the phosphorus or do something else with the byproduct. That's the extra special bonus. One of the things I mentioned at one of the earlier press conferences is the layperson in all of this from a scientific and agriculture perspective. It was interesting to me to find out that I knew that phosphorus was essential to growth of everything on the planet but there's a finite amount of phosphorus and one of the things I learned was as it makes its way to the ocean, it's lost. So at some point the planet will run out of phosphorus. We have no idea when that's going to be and in part because some of the biggest suppliers of phosphorus in other countries don't let on how much they have in their reserves. But so recycling it actually becomes an eventual imperative for the planet. That's something. We'll all be gone by that point but we might as well start thinking about that as a piece of the puzzle as well. So Governor, you had said that this phosphorus capture needs to be done in conjunction with existing ongoing water quality efforts. So based off of that, I'd be curious what your proposal is for long term. Well, we're going to continue along the same path that we're working on right now. There are a number of initiatives that we put forth as you know over the last two years. We've had a 70% increase in the number of those projects that are being implemented again as we speak. So Julie probably could give us a few examples of that but one that comes to mind is the eventual aeration of Lake Carmi focusing on that. And then there's other initiatives that were, that are really capital projects that are being utilized right now. I sort of meant more the long term clean water funding is still has been a question for the past few years. I was curious. Well again, I've committed to that long term funding. We're going to come up with a source. I'm looking at existing sources right now ongoing and I'm not ready at this point to divulge that. We're right in the middle of campaign season and I'm afraid that anything that I propose at this point might not be well received for all kinds of different reasons as you might expect. So I'd rather get through the election and then let's work at this together so that we have a viable source. But I think as it is. On the other hand, I have a secret plan. That's not a secret plan. I mean, I've said that I'm going to be looking within the budget to utilize an existing tax structure because I don't believe that we have to raise another tax. I've been pretty clear on that. And I think there's examples that we could, we're looking at the fundamentals and making sure that this is going to be viable but I don't wanna propose something that just gets shot down out of hand either because it's too important. Another question. Okay, that's about wraps it up. This is the point of the press conference where you might not want to answer some of the questions. Be behind me when some of the questions come up. Feel free, if you'd like to stay, you're fine. Pick up your check on the way out. What's your reaction to the ethics commission's ruling this week? I was disappointed to tell you the truth from a number of different perspectives. First of all, that I'd offered to come before them, offered any information they might need to arrive at whatever decision they were going to make but I thought it was important that they understood the issue and what steps we've taken and so forth so they had a good background from that perspective. They rejected that or didn't respond whatsoever. Secondly, I felt as though from a courtesy standpoint that before I had to read it in the media that they might reach out and let me know what their decision was. So I was disappointed on a couple of different levels. I still believe that this has been litigated a couple of times, once during two years ago during about this time during an election. I made the commitment to sell my share of the business. I in January after being sworn in, I had a press conference, had many of you here today at the press conference and was fully transparent and showed everyone what had transpired, what I was going to do. So there's nothing that hasn't been laid out and so now we're litigating it again for a third time at the 11th hour, kind of an October surprise during an election year. What information had you offered to provide them? Anything there was? And they rejected? They didn't ever respond. So the commission says they don't have the authority to do that. Is this the fundamental problem? I gave them the authority. I said, I have all the information, at least listen to what I have to say and I will make it available to you. But their statutory authority says they can't investigate which means that's a ridiculous statement. Isn't it fundamentally just a broken thing? No, it is not. I mean, that's why we do things in Vermont. You know, if you want information, you at least ask for it. I mean, there's somebody to offer it but I offered it to them. They don't have the right to subpoena me but if I'm offering it to them then I don't understand what the problem is. So my understanding is the statutory, the statute that created the commission says they can't investigate. They can essentially accept a complaint and look at that complaint and weigh in on that complaint. Without, they don't have the authority to look at what you're offering. Which, why I'm saying, isn't it broken? Shouldn't we give them the authority to actually look at- I think they could have taken them. So you don't, but we shouldn't change the commission structure? I'm not saying that because I think it's fraught with danger. I think think about the implications of this. If that's the case when you have a complaint and all you have to do is make the complaint and the next day the headlines are someone who's unethical. Think about the, what's going to happen to politics in Vermont as a result. But that's what's happening now. Believe me, I'm living it. So, yeah, no, this is fraught with danger. And it's going to be utilized by all sides. This isn't going to be one party. It's just- So we should kill the commission? No, no, I think you should improve it. How do you improve it? Listen, they're the ones that came up with this. I think they'll understand, the legislature will understand this isn't exactly the way they had thought this thing through. And I believe they'll change it. How do you think it's gonna change the structure and its powers? Listen, I'm gonna let the legislature work on this. This was their idea, their concept. They worked on it for a number of years. And I think they'll continue to work on it. But at the very least, you had information, you wanted them to review. They didn't, so it's not a good place to start with. Well, again, I think the commission, as it exists today, could hear this, at least hear me out. And or listen to anybody that I've offered anything they need. But at this point, I'm not sure it matters. Do you see their argument that there's a possible appearance of conflict here? And if so, do you find that to be an issue? Again, this is a fully transparent process. I take the unprecedented step, stepping away from my business, selling my business, as I promised to do. I believe that with the process we have, with contracting in Vermont, everything is transparent. Everything is bid. And then we can see the results of those bids. I don't understand, I personally don't understand it, but I accept their findings. I mean, based on the complaint, that's all it takes is a complaint. We'll see what happens in the future. This isn't the usual political argument that we see in Vermont. It's talking about ethics. It's talking about integrity. It's talking about you as a person, essentially. Is this different for you? Well, again, it seems suspect to me that a powerful political organization makes a complaint during October of an election here. Well, they made the complaint in, I believe in August after the Ethics Commission adopted, adopted its ethics code in June or July. After the code, after the election? Well, they couldn't make the complaint until the Ethics Commission had a code. Right, and the code that they adopted was after the election, correct? The code in this summer? Right. We're saying it doesn't take effect until after the election? No, I'm just saying that this is a new code that they came up with on their own. I don't think it went through any rules process. I don't believe it was, there was any oversight by the legislature. This is something they came up with. A rule of commission? I think there's room for improvement. The Senate moved forward with the confirmation of Judge Kamenach today, there'll be a vote. Sometimes weekend, should he serve on the court at this point? The vote's coming, should he serve? Again, from my perspective, I've said all along that they should take as long as they need to, to make sure this is a lifelong appointment. They should take all the time they need to make sure that they feel this is a good process. They had the information to arrive at the decision they need to make. I think, again, seeing the polarization we're seeing throughout our country and the partisanship that obviously exists in the close balance in terms of numbers, I believe the process needs to change. I believe that they should adopt our process here in Vermont. I sat on the judicial nominating committee for a couple of years, two or three years. It is a membership of both parties. Senate House, Vermont Bar Association has three members, two at large, and we sit for a week or two weeks going over applications, fully vetting those who are seeking judiciary appointments. So at that point, they forward names to the governor and you pick from that list of names, fully vetted by a bipartisan commission. That seems like a better process than what we have right now in Washington. I think they should consider changing that. Did they take the appropriate time to figure this out?  It doesn't appear that they did. I mean, there's complaints on both sides and in some respects, that's almost immaterial but because if you come to the conclusion that it's such a close balance of power there. And obviously, there's going to be many people who aren't happy with the decision either way. So it's unfortunate it came to this. Will you be happy with Justice Kavanaugh? I would be happy with a fairer process that fully vets the candidates. And I would be happier if there was a bipartisan nominee that came forward and it was done on a bipartisan basis. I mean, this is just too important. Did you support Justice Gorsuch? I wasn't in the Senate at that time. No, but I mean... I mean, did you see somebody that you thought was a good pick that should serve on the court? Hi, listen, I didn't follow it but obviously, again, it had a process. I don't even know what the vote was. Whether it was a bipartisan vote, I just don't remember. If Judge Kavanaugh was going through the Vermont process, he's not, but based on your experience of the Vermont process, do you think he would've gotten through? I mean, you're saying that Washington should adopt a process similar to Vermont or at least consider it. If so, would we be where we are now? I have no idea. I just know that the process we've taken from Vermont, it's a rigorous process. You fully vet the candidates and it's done in a bipartisan way. And I think that's what the important part is, that the names are agreed upon just like the Green Mountain Care Board. They're agreed upon by a committee. So then they're forwarded. So it takes out the partisanship. So do you think this process was unfair? I think it's become unfair because of the polarization partisanship we're seeing in Washington. So I don't think it's working anymore. What do we know so far about the foliage season in terms of the economic development? It's here. How early do you get indications of whether they're leaving their money here? Oh, okay, that's what I was thinking. I was looking at the truth. They're changing. He's all about the case. We likely have a weekly update, but we likely have a weekly update, but I don't have it with me. We get them on an ongoing basis. I didn't anticipate that particular question. You got me. Where's the money? But it appears, I mean, we've had a challenging week in terms of much needed rain, but it's going to be beautiful for the next week or so. And we haven't hit peak foliage in all parts of Vermont. I think it looks positive.  So I think it sounds good. Thank you very much.


Studying kamikaze? Here's how you can analyse this poem. In terms of structure this poem is written as seven stanzas which assess teds. Pay attention to the title it is a reference to Japanese suicide pilots who fought during World War II. The sibilance in stanza one is powerful as it shows the pilot's determination to carry out his suicide mission. The onjomon unhyperbole here shows how proud the pilot was to die for his country. Yet the Suzuru here signals a turning point. He's starting to doubt his mission. The simile and the vivid natural imagery here shows that nature inspired him to want to live. The semantic field of family is used to show that he wanted to grow old with his family. Sibilance here creates vivid visceral imagery. The pilot wanted to live to see all of this. Italics here shows the pilot's daughter directly interjects. Illiteration on an onjomon shows that once the pilot decided to come back he became an outcast in his community. Hyperbole shows the family he wanted to live for rejected him. Illiteration at the end is poignant. He's a social outcast who suffers a social death.


Well, Sunday growler sales could be on the horizon for Bemidji's only brewery. During Monday's Bemidji City Council meeting, the city gave the second reading of the change in ordinance that would allow Sunday beer growler sales. Due to recent changes in state law, growler sales have made local breweries popular places on Sundays. While a third reading is still needed for the ordinance to change, the earliest the Sunday growler sales could begin would be in December, which is creating plenty of excitement for Bemidji's brewery. We're really looking forward to it. In the state, what we've heard from our colleagues in the brewing industry is Sunday has become one of the biggest days for folks in their taprooms because people are off on Sundays, you know, they're looking for things to do, and we are definitely looking forward to having that business boost. Bemidji is currently the only city in the state with a brewery that does not allow Sunday growler sales. This is the first time Bemidji Brewing has come to the council to ask them for approval. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Making sure this is on correctly. Thanks so much for giving me the chance to talk to you this morning and to share with you an interesting case that I saw when I did my neuroophthalmology month back in November. Hopefully there'll be some interesting pictures and we'll be reminded of some things that you already knew. So to start our case, I'm involved, no surprise, a 12-year-old girl. She was a right-handed female, which I'd like to talk about in neurology, who presented with the afterword. It's fallen off. Yeah? OK. Three to four months of redness and swelling of her left eye. She had, in talking with her a little bit more, she talked about having left facial numbness for up to three years. When I asked about pain, she'd only had some intermittent burning, which was worse with eye rubbing in the morning. And then also one episode of left jaw pain when she was chewing popcorn a couple days prior. They had gone to see her family physician who told her that it was probably a Bell's palsy, showed her some horrific pictures, was scared 12-year-olds quite a bit. But parents weren't really convinced. And so they pushed and a couple months later went back and said, we really like to see an eye doctor because we're concerned there's something going on with her eye. And otherwise, her past medical history and neurological history were not really concerning at all. The patient was most concerned actually about a little skin tag that she had under her eye that people at school made fun of. That was her biggest concern. So on exam, her vitals were normal. Her general exam was normal. Vision was almost normal. Stereopsis was affected. And she did have proptosis on the left. Also, on just looking at her appearance, the left upper eyelid was a bit tautic. And her lower lid was retracted. What I was most impressed by and what parents hadn't mentioned yet in going through the whole history was the fullness of the left side of her face. I said, well, when did that start?  And they asked about that. But we hadn't really noticed it. She had no tenderness to palpation. And here's a picture. It's not a great picture. But you can appreciate that the left side of her face looks much fuller. And it's really tough on the quality of these images to tell the ptosis of her left eye. But that's there as well. Otherwise, totally healthy, not in pain kid who's doing her usual things. So the rest of the exam, which we do a thorough exam, slit lamp was normal. Dilated fundus exam showed a little bit of fullness of the optic nerve on the left, as well as an OCT. She had a thickened nerve fiber layer on the left. And everything else was normal. So what else would you want to know? Anything else that I think I'm holding back on you? So one thing we really like to do is look at old pictures to see, even though parents see her every day and they're noticing it's a problem now, how long was this going on? So we went and dad happened to have their Christmas picture from a year before. And again, I'm seeing the patient in November. And he pulled it out from Christmas. And sure enough, the left side of her face looks swollen there. And parents' stomach drops because they just weren't aware of it going back that far. So just to kind of summarize her, she's a 12-year-old girl who has left-sided proptosis, subtle left optic nerve edema. This is probably been going on for a long time. And it's not really causing her any pain, just maybe a little bit of change in her appearance. So came up with a wide differential, but knew that we weren't really going to know until we did a bit more testing, largely imaging, and eventually labs. So we talked about retro bulbar processes, extraconal masses, graves. Although she did not have any, again, restriction of her extracular movements, you might expect a little bit more lid retraction as opposed to ptosis and graves. And here's the first image. So she went and got an MRI. Fortunately, they were able to schedule her the following day. As you can see here, there's an extensive skull-based tumor, which is centered, appears to be centered in the left cavernous sinus and the medial portion of the left middle cranial fossa and the left pterigopalatine fossa. Some more images in coronal view. So the tumor is extending posteriorly through the trigeminal fraymen into the enterometeal portion of the left cerebellal pontine angle. It displaces the brainstem, as these tend to do, and eventually goes through the fraymen of alley into the left upper neck. So the radiologists gave a differential, probably, of a small blue cell malignancy, such as a rhabdo or granulitic sarcoma or amniuings and recommended biopsy. Prior to going to biopsy, ENT was involved and they wanted to get some additional imaging, so a CT was performed and here are those images. Again, not as helpful as the MRI, but again, indicating an extensive destructive skull-based mass with high attenuation indicative of a neoplasm. And so biopsy was performed. I believe that the ophthalmologic surgeons, neurosurgeon, plastics, ENT all had a discussion and eventually ENT were the ones who went in and performed a biopsy. The biopsy results were reviewed both here and at CHOP in Pennsylvania. They were found to be CD-99 positive. CD-99 is expressed on all leukocytes but highest on thymocytes and is known to play a role in T cell adhesion, migration, activation. It is positive in ewing as well in granulosis cell tumors. Picture over there is vimentin, which is a member of the intermediate filament family along with microtubules and actin makes up the cytoskeleton and that is usually used as a marker for granulosis cell tumors. Also the fish was positive for the EWS-FL-I-1, which is a marker for Ewing's and I'll review that translocation shortly. So the fish was positive but the PCR was negative. So, but based on the CD-99, the vimentin and the fish, the leading diagnosis at that point was Ewing's sarcoma. So that would be consistent with the radiologists that thought in terms of a round cell tumor of the bone and soft tissue. Usually affects males or the population they say to think of as male teenagers or maybe you've anecdotally seen that more in that population. They're difficult to classify and so that's why additional immunotesting is necessary and you wanna be really sure of the pathology before you take any additional steps. Picture down below shows the translocation. So the EWS protein from chromosome 22 and the FL-I protein from 11 or rather gene are translocated and that translocation, the EWS FL-I is found in 95% of Ewing's and then there's a different translocation, the EWSERG that's found in the other 5% or 5 to 10%. And again in Ewing's, CD-99 is positive and CD-45 is negative and that's because CD-45 is usually a lymphocytic tumor marker. So I'm a little bit more about Ewing's. If this were Ewing's, the treatment is usually tri-fold using chemo, resection and radiation and as is with most tumors, the prognosis is based on the staging. So in the survival for Ewing's is about five years, 70 to 80% when treated with chemo and then long-term with mats can be less than 10% but in some places they talk about it being as high as 25 or 30. So to do further work up on this patient, we performed an Ossia survey and that to no surprise showed increased uptake in the left facial bones. She had a normal echo, a normal chest CT, all these things were reassuring. She had a central line placed and was admitted with the idea that she was most likely going to be starting chemo and had a bone marrow biopsy performed just to make sure that her marrow had not been affected. And then the day before she was supposed to start chemo, the path came back and it was found to be EWSERG PCR negative and confirmed to be a meningioma. So meningioma. A third of all brain tumors, so most frequent primary brain tumor, usually benign but obviously in the CNS can cause significant mortality and morbidity. Incidents usually increases with age, usually rare in kids unless they've had previous radiation or have another syndrome such as NF2. Usually affects females more than males and some of the other risk factors that I read about. I guess radiation's used for treatment of tinea capidus or has been in the past and atomic bomb survivors is also some literature suggesting that head trauma can increase the risk of meningioma but I don't know that they're totally convinced yet. I included this picture to show that when they talk about primary tumors in kids, they don't even list meningioma, so it wasn't that I thought it was there. So often meningiomas arise from the dura, usually at places where the skull has a dural reflection, so there's a fold. So things like the Fox cerebride, centaurium cerebelli, also next to the venous sinuses, nerve sheets, chloride plexus, and one study noted the incidence including autopsy just in the general population to be about 0.9%. They can present as seizures, focal findings, which is how she essentially presented, well she didn't have visual field changes but actually a third of patients with meningioma, when tested, will present with visual field lost defects and diplopia. And so you can have focal signs, they can also be asymptomatic if found incidentally when people have imaging for other reasons or again on autopsy. So in terms of diagnosis, grading is based on histology. This is just again showing you her MRI because on T1 usually they're iso-intense or hypo-intense, which I think here is probably iso-intense to the gray matter, and then on T2 they're usually iso-intense or hyper-intense, and have a strong enhancement with gadolinium. In reading about it, meningioma often they refer to the tail sign, which is the dural thickening that kind of tapers off into a tail peripherally. And differential, so MRI often is helpful in the diagnosis as we saw in this case. CT, as again shown in this case shows that it displaces the normal brain, and PET is often used for prognosis or recurrence especially in case of maths. So differential included other infectious process, oncologic processes, maths, and inflammatory lesions, although this girl had been feeling so well that we were less concerned about an inflammatory process. Treatment for meningioma depends on grading location. In her case, complete resection is a goal. A lot of times they'll aim for partial resection or even surveillance if it's really in a place where it's not bothering someone and we can continue to monitor. Radiation therapy is also used more frequently as I've seen in people with multiple meningiomas who've already had multiple craniotomies. And then we know that survival wise people with higher grade lesions, so WHO grade two and three are more likely to have invasive disease, local recurrence, and shorter survival. So the timing could not have been weirder on this patient who I saw back in November and did go to the OR yesterday. And so prior to the surgery, they met with neurosurgeonian T, planned to do a resection attempting to remove as much of the intracranial portion of lesion as they could. They prepared parents that likely this is gonna need to go on stages because of its extent that they were gonna start at the front, try to get the part that was affecting the orbit and move posteriorly. And again, she had pre-op MRI for improved navigation in comparison to her previous and it didn't appear to have changed much in the two months and probably had been there for an incredibly long time. She's only 12. And so yesterday, she had neurosurgery. They did left frontoprital craniotomy. They drilled into the orbital root and lateral orbital wall to decompress the orbit and down into the fossil floor as well for resection. They did interoperative monitoring and the frozen path conferment in geoma. And she was transferred to the ICU and to the best of my knowledge, she's doing okay at this point. Interoperatively, they commented on transient bradycardia when they would stimulate the fifth nerve. Okay, some of my references. And I just wanted to thank all the people that helped me during my rotation. I also wanted to, you know, all of them. Highlight that when you look up neuro-optimology in Google, the third image is this. So, we're all pretty lucky. All right, but thank you for your time and I'm letting me share this interesting case. Questions, comments, people? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and in retrospect, obviously, we have all the information now. It does make sense for it to have been a meningioma which we know can be incredibly slow-growing and insidious and change.  Yeah, that's why I showed the picture to show. I mean, I can see how this would happen.


0-5 the Nets improved to 6-1 in their home openers here at Barkley Center and his canter with a heck of a game 12 of 18 from the field 29 points 10 boards but Karris Leverett sets that career high 28.6 rebounds five assists moments ago iron eagle and sourcoup stock broke this game down we go down to the floor right now thanks guys the Nets hold on here against the Knicks tight game they had a double-digit lead again similar to what they had against Detroit on opening night but this time they execute down the stretch and Karris Leverett was fantastic it was tremendous and Karris Leverett was fantastic on both ends of the floor I think the first thing that we turned to is his 28 points six rebounds five assists but he had some defensive possessions and stops there down the crucial points of the game that is really what turned things around and it was Karris Leverett but it was also big shots by D'Angelo Russell everyone contributed Jared Dudley did a lot of the little things of course Ed Davis with his rebounding Jared Allen so you can go down the list but this was certainly a collective team effort and I think you know it's not so much a sigh of relief from when we heard from Karris Leverett after but they are motivated to change and shift the dialogue of what this team is this season the way this team is constructed there's a chance they're gonna play in a lot of close games throughout the year so you get into these tight situations you want a frame of reference you want a body of work that you can lean on a game like this can help now in the future just based on the fact that they've had some success and they got it done down the stretch against this New York squad and I think it also shows that they have a lot of versatility in the lineups that they can play with in understanding of different guys may play at different moments and it's it's you play that game for what it is and everyone's ready for the next one and you take the positives out of this one but you also look at okay why did the Knicks get back in this ball game how can we help clean over clean up the issue of turnovers and what can we try and do to improve upon that but I think overall just a tremendous job of what they did on the defensive side of the ball also also early on the game cleaning up the defensive glass which has been something that we talked about often and just the movement and unselfishness of this offense and a double-double for Jared Allen this is no longer a bonus that the Nets are getting from Allen this is becoming the consistent production from their second year big man Nets get it done at home and take the home opener against the next first of four meetings for these two teams back to you guys


All right cyber traders welcome on back here this Tuesday, November 22nd great to be back in my rightful spot here this Tuesday November 22nd great to see all of us here live Grant Chuck Chris all of us here inside the cyber group room Make sure that my audio is good. I've had a little glitch just on my other computer here So hopefully for all of us at least on social media you folks should be good Hopefully you folks are good to go for all of us inside the trading room I believe you folks are at least Grant Charles Karen Sam Jeff Chuck good audio from him All right a little flustered at least with that little glitch to begin but with that in mind though folks Let's hop right to it We have a busy afternoon the market right now is really not gone much of anywhere over the last couple of like hours or so Small push-up going into late morning early afternoon, but really since the new noon time It's been relatively flat the Pali trade though. I mean hey this ended up making a really nice pot for us early this morning So let me just zoom out on this briefly You know, we'll talk a little bit about this stock But we ended up going over this pretty much from head to toe inside of our traders talk workshop Which we conducted inside our room this morning We're gonna have the recording of that at least put up on the student portal later on this afternoon for all of our students That that had missed out so the Pali trade had some good activity after a 30 Eastern and pre-market coming off of some sort of FDA Fast-Tracking news with that ended up leading to a big pop shortly within the first three to five minutes of the market opening up So personally, I'd missed out on this in pretty much entire run I was able to scalp essentially 35 to 37 cents and really it just it was Tight I didn't want to like hit a home run on this trade because I missed out on the brunt of the move I figured that this would look to pull back over time and it did do just that so ended up pulling back down towards 415 420 ish and then from there really hasn't gone much of anywhere since it's been trying to make this push back up in Traders talk we actually called it out off that 478 print line that we Focused on from one of the halts that it had led to a nice break above that price at the end of the Traders talk workshop led to a great run from that point But you would have expected resistance to at least get flipped into support that didn't really happen I mean at first it tried to but then you wanted to you wanted it to make a much better pop and run higher Lows from five and that simply didn't happen. So, you know for right now It's just gone flat maybe by the end of this meeting if it makes some sort of fluke pop Then we'll be more interested in it But I mean normally the stock doesn't trade 54 plus million shares a day Normally the stock trades about a hundred to a hundred fifty thousand shares per day. That's it So this is the definition of exhaustion. I Think we saw that earlier on another stock that is not on the gainers list anymore. I mean it's crazy to see a stock up 35 to 40 percent if not a hell of a lot more this ONCS made early in pre-market But this is actually well below yesterday's close now at this point it flipped from top percent gainer to top percent loser Within a matter of four to five hours. So that's where I say for a stock that trades such little volume day to day Oh my god before today and yesterday perhaps this stock was trading maybe about, you know four or five thousand shares per day Hey really quick for Karen, Chris, Chuck and Grant all of us here. I'm sure you'll have different exact answers But generally speaking What's our whole philosophy here at Cybertraining University? What are we exactly following? You know, of course, we're trying to cut losses tight. We know that but we're following what? Following the money Chris just abbreviates with the dollar sign as simple as that simple as that If there's no big money to follow on a stock Then it's just not worth it So unless of a stock is coming off of news and has its you know initial pump You know, we'll focus on that but you know once it begins to make lower highs lower low game over that's it So I don't know what the hell happened to this ONCS here But we didn't really focus on it as much after the market opened up and fell flat afterwards I don't even think Fausta put this on the main list All right back to Palli at least hey wouldn't shock me then with lower highs We could see a lower low a break of support off that blue 478 line I was looking for a true bounce and support test off of that 415 earlier It kind of like glossed over it briefly didn't exactly test it here I kind of held a higher low from 424 25 So I feel like if this fails to really pump soon this could have a similar fate as the ONCS trade had Don't get stuck holding All right, so we'll come back to this perhaps at the end But with that in mind though, let me just zoom out on the five-minute chart here pretty briefly You could see like I'd said for the last all right last hour markets gone really flat There was a small pop at one o'clock, but Now it's 236 hour and a half. It's gone flat So, you know, we'll see if there's anything doing here by the end of the day But let's go from top to bottom now see if there's anything looking, you know, just enticing anything good BURL I didn't even click on this earlier folks. Just just given the price is this Burlington Coat Factor Burlington stores there you go nice little push from the morning big big pop actually for that one obviously very expensive So we're not gonna day trade this but I didn't really check this out from the morning I was that ignorant of it. So nice day for Burlington nice pop. Actually, that could have been a nice day trade given the price, but Let's see if there's anything looking better ANF I thought this would have made for a better day trade at least throughout the day It hasn't done really any of it Made a small slow bounce off of like 21 or 21 25 or so I was trying to make a squeeze back up right now. I reckon if you zoom in on the one-minute chart It's trying right now I'll come back this at the end. Maybe we'll give it a second look, you know, I got Chris in the chat board here I'll be talking to him a little bit later on man. You big pop Manchester United, right? Honestly, I think that's Manchester United they're publicly traded, you know, you got the World Cup on that could be in a Relation to that who knows Let's see what else we got though in the meantime, we'll go to Manu We'll go to a couple of the others just in the chat board once we finish up AEO very similar to ANF. I you know probably coming off earnings But yeah, this isn't looking as sharp at least compared to the ANF PSNY this one we ended up trading actually before I stepped away on vacation Took a small break to California to see one of my close friends graduate the LAPD there Was very nice time but before even left we were trading this PSNY or I definitely remember this gap up back in Early November ended up squeezing up day over day at least big pop today though going into the early afternoon So for right now, you know, I don't mind putting this on our main list for right now It's not as close to the highs compared to earlier But you know, we'll see if this could build up the PSNY trade. We'll start by putting this on our list We got WW weight watchers Yeah, no definitely pretty slow definitely definitely pretty flat there. We'll pass on this one for right now And we'll keep it going. What else we got Chris. Here's the Manu trade. It's down here on the gainer side We'll jump that coming up WMG Warner music group, I think yeah, one of us had called it out earlier But low volume trading on it right now and with Manu told you Manchester United Led to a big pop right now big pop I knew Chris was gonna be money on this call out. So great call from Chris as usual Let's just check the news here from Manu. I saw I'm not a footy fan as much but in terms of the Favorites and the underdogs and the World Cup. I think Saudi Arabia beat Argentina that it was that true. I think they were like plus 1,800 underdog. That's That's pretty pretty wild in the meantime at least for myself speaking Let's go USA We'll talk footy another time though. So Manu Cristiano Ronaldo leaves Manchester United after scoring 145 goals in 316 appearances, I guess that was important enough to make Benzinga pro Let's see Manchester United owners to explore the sale as Glazers seek new investment Could this be short covering?  So great call from Chris a little little Manu news out there I guess today, but You know see if this does anything from from this point I would assume still 50 cent levels whole numbers and then aside from that quickly looking at the trade station histogram 1449 that complements 50 and then other than that 1462 actually a pretty big volume-based level itself. So 1462 could be a nice level to follow All right, we'll keep it going nice nice run-in right here with Manu CPRX nice run into this too Squeezing back up pretty nicely trading about 70,000 shares per minute right now pretty much right off the highs and looking at the weekly chart This actually is this stock is breaking 52 big highs and maybe all-time highs. Who knows? Let's take a look This is pretty interesting folks CPRX, I don't know what the news is just expedite time. I'm not gonna keep checking Benzinga, but Just given the fact that this stock is at the intraday highs and pretty much at all-time highs right now This is a really nice play. I like the stock CPRX. It's a pharma company, too So, you know, you always say be careful on the pharma for pharma stocks, you know any Reasonably bad news this stock could drop 50 60 70 percent in one day. So, you know, we've seen that happen before So I wouldn't necessarily call this a great swing trade, you know opportunity from this very point Easy to say from the last, you know, however many weeks or months or so, you know, it's been running up pretty well Definitely a good day tree for us here inside the live trading room All right, what else we got and got prover PRVB, ooh, where are all these stocks coming from? I mean, I felt like it was kind of a sleepy early afternoon Not as much chat inside the room at least up until the meeting and no, that's all right at times You know, hey, we're heading into Thanksgiving and not as many people are even in the room spending time with families and taking time off Giving your eyes a rest as I did just over the last few days With that though, I mean, where all these stocks coming from prover PRVB just broke a new high earlier pulling back a little bit Right now, so you might want to be careful in that regard eat 50 should be a pretty big support But yeah, I don't mind slipping this just on the back burner to our list for right now PRVB More interested in the first three at least All right, what else we got here. We got nine energy energy stock. This thing's been on a tear back since early October Exporting goods getting a little pricey or they have been for a little while, but you know, obviously big push earlier today Big lots. I don't think they're trading enough volume on the intraday for us today All right, and that might just about do it on the gainer side folks If there's anything else looking, you know as good that I didn't check out just yet type it in the chat board Definitely, let me know, you know, that's how we work together as a team. Let's hop over to the loser side right now Seeing if there's anything looking as good if not better AP I I mean just it was down big wanted to look at it briefly a pass IQ is gonna be too slow I just know that instinctively Jack in the box and D y are both pretty expensive not going to be as inclined to follow that here All right, and that's where I tell you folks It's just way quicker for us to scan through the losers list You're not gonna find nearly as much on this side of the field, you know, the markets are up today more of a slow grind up But I know otherwise there's still not a whole lot that looks as great And as I say that I run right into nvax here Nova vax is a potential short This does look pretty good as a day trade So it's pretty funny because as often as I just say, you know Hey, normally we tend to kind of skim through the losers list not a whole lot on there For any of our longtime members here like Ron or Grant or Michael or Leda actually my condolences go out to Leda and her family today I know she wrote me just an email earlier this morning So for any of her friends, of course inside the live trading room if you want to give her a quick shout out And I send her a nice texture email that would be greatly appreciated But nevertheless though if you're a longtime student, you know that I Always run into this any time I say that, you know, there's not a whole lot on the loser side Right away after and it was funny that it just happens here I just kind of jinxed myself and I'll fall flat into a perfect short like nvax. So yes, nvax I'll put on our list. Maybe I shouldn't assume that there's not a whole lot on here just yet So let's see if there's anything else that could join it Two you Not trading enough volume this one All right, and now at this point, I don't think there's anything else that I see at least, you know There's still a lot that's down percentage wise, you know five six seven percent maybe so if there's anything I didn't look at now Is the time definitely definitely let me know here folks type in the chat board type it in on social media Facebook live or YouTube Ron asking could I look at DLO absolutely DLO? I know is one that we traded Wallace away rich was texting me all about it when it first dropped off There's like a 50% drop that day last week Yesterday unfortunately didn't really make a great run up and right now it just looks kind of flat Ron You know slowly grinding up right now I guess right off the lows if you have a good entry as a day trade I hope you do well on it, but not a whole lot to this trade for right now And coin rising again says Karen. I'd say the same thing coin We called out from the morning. We had it on the morning watch list You know it was choppy to begin with it made a nice pop over 43 So from that point we actually did pretty well on it, but from there It's just a sideless stock right now nothing really too special about this one either and folks that is okay I appreciate all the call-outs and keep them coming in if there's any you want me to look at we got time right now But I'm not gonna force anything on the main watch list, you know, it's a holiday week Smart money is either letting their assistants do the trading for them right now or and they're just totally shut down So let's see if there's anything looking good. I'm just on Benzinga pro right now. So I'm looking at MSgm I just caught this myself as up like 14% over the last five minutes. It's up 80% total on the day I think it's halted right now. I don't think it's trading right now So this is currently halted. It's gonna have to wait another five or so minutes for this to reopen up But MSgm, I would definitely say though like I'd said on ONCS and the others Although it's moving up really well right now This could be a pop and drop type of stock pump and dump type of stock So don't get caught slipping don't get caught looking the other way and this comes crashing right back down and it never returns This is definitely the type of stock that would do such things So, you know, if this fails to continue then we'll move on to something else But for right now just respecting how much it's already up right now and with the hope of there being more I'll put this on our main list just on the end Notice how I say that by the way, too I gotta cross my T's dot my I see we got a lot of us watching inside our trading room about a hundred right now About another 20 more on YouTube and Facebook live together. So, you know, we're not just trying to jump into a stock and hope and pray So, you know something like Nordstrom JWM that Michael wrote here in the chat board now JWM moving higher It's up 67 percent. We like that. It's at the highs. We also like that Doesn't mean it's guaranteed to continue this also could dump off like a low-volume stock, but Most important part about this stock and that's why I appreciate Michael throwing this in the chat now. It's Really liquid. It's penny spread very liquid stock got an iceberg at 2280 actually. So, yeah Nordstrom having a pretty good day Mike, I like this one good call Put this on our list that leads me to look at Macy's which I think from last week I was following this on my plane ride to California doing a little trading on the ride there I didn't trade Macy's though Figured it would be kind of a choppier trade and it was and I mean, it's not nearly looking as strong as Nordstrom right now But yeah, I mean good sidely stock. I guess KSS little pop right now, but not as not up as much percentage wise So definitely good call from Mike on Nordstrom here JWM Alright, so I think that just about wraps it up all together for all of us inside the trading room and for me I'm Benzinga pro so I don't see anything else on Facebook live or YouTube and that's that's totally, you know Good by me folks, you know for right now on top of just the watch list I'm not putting uber on the main watch list, but for all this inside the live trading room You know that I've been in uber today as a swing trade still holding on to that right now Not looking as great compared to what the spy is doing today So, you know, we'll see what happens going into the clothes or heading into the market open tomorrow But you know, otherwise if it doesn't look as great come tomorrow morning Then I'll just jump ship break even or at a fractional loss But otherwise though, you know, I've been looking at uber for sub 28 for the last like two weeks now I finally got it and from 2761 2762 I published but with that Let's see if this can make a nice squeeze up higher, but it'll be a sideless stock if anything here for me All right, so that's it folks for all of us in social media Facebook live YouTube Hey, enjoy the rest of your day if you have any questions feel more than free to send over a quick email Josh at c2 trading comm is my email I always like to post that at the end of the streams here if you're interested in joining our live trading room even with this being a Smaller week with the market closed Thursday for Thanksgiving and half day for Friday for black Friday If you wanted to join our live trading room Please just go right down to the link on the yellow banner below the stream and on top of that You could actually call our office to set the actual date that you wanted to start So if you wanted to begin for Monday of next week just a clean week and you're in the trading room early for pre-market Sign up now and then call our office and talk to one of our education advisors They'll be able to manually set that for you But you know if anything though we look forward to seeing you just in the near future for all of us in there right now I look forward to chatting with you folks and coming up in a bit rich will be on the mic in about 10 or so minutes Take care Come a cyber group member today Just click the link below and receive all these amazing products and a world of knowledge We're just nine dollars Do it today


Hello and welcome to the Jenkins documentation office hours. This is the EU US edition and today is February 15th At this point in time. We have myself Kevin Martin's and Chris Thurin is joining us. Thanks to Chris It's very late for Chris. So thank you for being here and Yeah, on the agenda today. We've got the DevOps dozen award announcement Just a couple notes on Fosdham. Again, we just got back On the fifth so I'm still pretty fresh there Contributor spotlight updates the Jenkins community awards An updated pride logo from Alexander Brandis the next LTS release The weekly release as well Some notes on Google Summer of Code 2024 And then just recapping some previous discussions. We've been having the maven in Python tutorial revamps That now include docket compose The related pages when reaching a 404 error the Pomeran Pomeran Pomeran Yeah, reverse proxy guide. I still can't say that word properly sometimes password reset guide for admins And then the version documentation site for Jenkins that IO and the sponsor attributes So pretty full line up there and yeah, we have if we run into anything. We'll be sure to add it in So starting at the top again, so Jenkins was announced at the winner of the DevOps dozen award for most innovative DevOps open source project Thanks to Alyssa tongue for getting us involved in this and organizing and Yeah, just getting us mentioned or getting us to be part of this Jenkins ended up with a third of all votes, which is incredible amount. If not more so really fantastic to see the support there from the open-source community as a whole and thanks again for all the all the support Fosdom happened on the third and fourth of February. We also had the Jenkins contributor summit the day prior on the second Which was really fantastic. We got a lot of great networking and face-to-face Just brainstorming project work everything. It was just a really lovely experience that resulted in Work that could not have been done as easily otherwise for instance Basil Crow and Tim Jacome there's several other people that were at the comp the contributor summit That it's really hard. It's a global community So being in the same time zone is really difficult for a lot of folks being able to sink In person is really really valuable. So just having that opportunity having that opera the Experience there was just super super valuable Fosom as a conference was really great. We had lots of visitors to the Jenkins booth We sold out of most shirts the first day Thanks to cloud bees for donating the t-shirts that ended up Equaling out to over $900 that's gonna go into the Jenkins project. So that's great news And thanks to cloud bees as well for donating all the stickers I think we only had a couple like a pile of stickers compared to the eight or ten that we brought so again lots of interest coming there and Then I'm working on a recap of the contributor summit and positive now I'll be checking in with the rest of the community team getting some thoughts from others and sharing experiences But that'll that's to come Excuse me next up. So the contributor spotlight. We just published Valentine delay is last week Valentine was also at the contributor summit. So it was really great to meet him in person And then so Tim Jacob is currently slated for the next contributor spotlight And then we've got the next couple months planned out at this point I just have to get the pull requests submitted for the other contributors. So Thanks, so the collaboration that I've gotten from them that shouldn't be too large of a task I just need to convert what I have into an a doc file and get the pull requests admitted Next up. So the Jenkins community awards. So this is this was announced Just a couple weeks ago at the end of January Alyssa Tong wrote a nice blog post and within the blog posts are links for the three individual awards So most valuable Jenkins contributor advocate and security MVP Nominations are open until the 19th. So there's still some time there to nominate someone if you feel that they are they fit the description and voting will Open on February 22nd And though that'll be open for a month until Friday March 22nd at which point it will be closed And then the winners will be announced at CD con 2024 just like they were last year Things to note is that the previous year's winner cannot win again this year. So last year Yon far check one for most valuable Jenkins contributor this year. Yon is not eligible However, Yon would still be eligible for something like most valuable Jenkins advocate. I just can't win the same category. So and just like last year as well the nominations are all coming into the Issues here in github that we've opened up and then we're going off stuff like the reactions and support that each nomination gets and The CDF community awards also have a bunch of different ones as well So they have one specifically for a CDF and other projects Do you have other questions on any of those again each issue has its own? Description of the award and you can always reach out to Alyssa myself Anyone else on the community team who can help get some more information on that? Just we noted this last week, but I just I like it so much that I want to bring it this week again Thanks to Alexander Brandis again for providing an updated pride logo. We went we just added some more inclusivity there So just really great really nice to see Thanks again to Alex for putting that together and submitting that next week We have LTS 2 dot 4 4 0 dot 1 to release. So the next baseline is ready to go Thanks to Alexander Brandis for being the release lead on this and setting up the checklist and seeing things through I've created the pull request for the change log and upgrade guide entries. So that is available I'd love to get any other reviews that we can get there Mark thanks to mark for helping me with the upgrade guide. We've got some notes in there about the node monitors configuration for configuration is code and There was another update. I forget about what exactly the other upgrade guide entries for I want to say Had something to do yeah the disk space monitor Or the the latest for the remoting update was the other one that was included so So yeah, everything looks good there the release candidate was a bit made available last week So mark's been marks testing from that looks good so far. So we're in a good spot And if there's any weird things that come up or anything preventing the release You know, we'll deal with it But at this point in time if anything looks nice and clear and ready to go for next week This week we had the weekly 2.445 release. So that went through We didn't think there were any issues for this weekly release I know we've been having some issues in the last weekly release that have been resolved, but Everything went pretty smoothly this week. So hopefully that continues from here on out The next step on the agenda. So Google Summer of Code 2024 prep is ongoing So first and foremost just thanks to Chris Sturm for the work on updating the project pages documentation everything overall for GSOC everything looks good Everything's really nicely organized and looks just yeah, everything's looking really really good there the application for the for Jenkins has been The organization application for Jenkins has been submitted to Google. So we're just waiting to hear back from them and Yeah, we're Alyssa. Thanks to Alyssa for getting us subscribed and tied into GSOC a little bit closer and then next so next week on the 21st there's plans for Jenkins online meetup and Yeah, Chris, would you be okay providing some details or just is there anything you want to note about? Google Summer of Code that we haven't discussed where that I can bring up Yeah, it sounds like we have like further Like Short list of some projects we want to focus on so that that would be all 11 of them but I think we're going to drop at least two of them at At this stage if we get selected and that's Though that means that we will have nine projects into a film. Yeah like for like We got any mentors teams like so like we have currently we kind of have I think 11 people on to it But it looks like we We would have to work with those so it's like So I'm thinking like I wouldn't we didn't discuss today, but I kind of think like that might limit the capacity of like how many projects we could submit to Google if if Jenkins would get selected and we'll go ahead and we receive applications and we Have to choose like a number of people so that might be with constructing factor is when it bring out It's like I think like even afforded 11 of them like on maybe only 10 are active so But among the 10 like I'm pretty sure that would be like and quite dedicated to the project from past experience And that's yeah Awesome. Thank you so much Yeah, but is it okay if I if I if I talk a little bit about the GSOC 20 and 3 Building I'll project a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's um, yeah Yeah, cuz like I think they did event it start weekend again. I I have yet to because he's on holidays Until the 18th, I think maybe So it's like I will do in this time Now we view his pull requests to add some features to a gas piece out of the site and we may move more of them Like the features from from them and toy side to the gas beside Because simply because like some some of them are not motioned and we fed that if we put them on the gas bay Both for logic and also for maybe aesthetics because it looks it's it's easier to to style with on gas behind because like for and toward they have them they have a very more rigid way to do things like a presentation for the pages, so I Think say for if we don't need to do it for the documentation we we could like use some more Like um flexible in its customization we can offer us to do the rest of the pages and that's it Great. Thank you That's not that all sounds great Chris, and I think that makes sense Yeah, and I know Bundy had reached out to me about a couple issues that I had raised I'm just to make sure that they're all they are in fact all set so I've been going back and reviewing some of that stuff myself, so Yeah, no, that's great great to hear. Thank you very very much for all the updates and Insight on that really that's really nice to hear And then I think I need to well I want to have this discussion off Docs office hours just because When I was at FOSDM, I was talking with the Jenkins security team and they had some questions about Security advisory page generation and like just what their process looks like now versus what it might look like with Fantora Gatsby, so I still need to sit down with Daniel Beck who was the one that actually raised their concerns And just to like better understand what that process looks like for them at the moment because they said they're using They're relying a lot of the framework basically of the security advisories page to generate and they're plugging things in and Yeah, so so basically I need to sit down with Daniel Beck and get a little bit more clarity on what their process looks like and then What I would like to do is find some time for us to Connect and talk about like just talk through it like I can share what Daniel Beck has shown me and shared with me and what their concerns are and we can talk about what That might look like from the other side of the but with the version doc site and kind of go from there Yeah, yeah, sure sure maybe after after this meeting So I have to so I would like to I want to talk to Daniel Beck first because I'm not a hundred percent sure what their process looks like and I want to have that I Want to know how that works for them before we start talking about it because I it's not going to be a Root full conversation if I don't know what they're doing exactly. That makes sense, but Actually, I did try to like convert the old version from from Or struck to to and tour but that wasn't very successful because we only we can only get them Get that the old version done because they I think you probably know it like they have an old version of doing things and New versions so the old version was kind of easy, but the new version is kind of hard to do So also for the advice we this page like that the patient for all the advice we may need to We so after after after my attempts, we've decided to do it on gas be Yeah Yeah, so it's like but the thing is that We have to figure out like what Security team wants to do to so it's like but I think it's it'll be more or less like We had before cuz like we can still like a dog. Yeah We can try to imitate we had existing you know, like version and That may be easier for the security team. I think Yeah, so that their main concern was Making sure that they can get the advisories out clearly and efficiently and and so and Make sure that everything is linked and aligned properly like they do now And I figured that it would be through Gatsby since I think it's more of a generated page than it is a static page at that point So that all makes sense to me in that regard So, yeah, so let so let me because I already have as an action item for myself to sit down with Daniel and the security team and just like get that Perspective and that and that workflow from them because I think I think that there's a real Chance that the process isn't terribly different for them provided we can Give them like a framework that makes sense for them to use or something like that. So Yeah, I think all that makes total sense and I think that aligns with what I had in In mind when I was talking to the security team as well. So I'm glad to hear that it at least lines up with what you're saying But yeah, let me let me talk with Daniel Let me find a time to sit down with him and he can walk me through their their process there And then once I get that figured out will we'll we'll connect and then we can go from there with our conversation Yeah, sure. Maybe we could I'm not sure about the ability, but we may maybe it was like and did at the same time Yeah, so Daniel's based in I want to say Germany so That might actually work out because I think that would be more in line with your and Vendee it's timelines And I can always just show up earlier if needed Okay, so yeah, so I don't think that would be a problem Maybe that's even like the conversation we have after I meet with Daniel Beck that that might be something that we can do too Because I would love to make sure that everyone's involved as much as possible doing like Vendee may not be available because I I try like meeting up with him But he has like he seems to be quite Basic most of the time because of his studies and maybe because other things is other commitments in his life So if he can be that I'll just represent us Yeah, and that and that works too and and you know worst-case scenario the whole thing I'll make sure we record the whole thing So we have that that Vendee could then look to and look at and like watch when he has time And we'll have that for after the fact as well. So Yeah, we can definitely make all this work We can definitely get connected and talk through all these things. That's not a problem So, yeah, no perfect. Thank you very very much Chris. I really appreciate you Being flexible and stuff and just being available to to work on this stuff. So thank you Great so lots of exciting news there on the version doc stuff We did have to delay it a little bit just due to Azure cost-saving measures and making sure that We're on top of that properly that is a priority right now for the Jenkins team as a whole the Jenkins project is making sure that our costs are down so Once that's under control, we'll get back to this But hopefully by then we'll have a better plan of what's due with Some of these other pieces of the Jenkins that I oh site. So yeah, okay So next up so the maven the maven and Python tutorial They've both been revamped. They now have Docker compose integrated into their instructions So thanks to Bruno Rochlin for incorporating Docker compose into the tutorials. It's really fantastic The node.js tutorials next for the update. I think it's being worked on right now More to come on that and then the eventual goal there is to use doc compose in the install the Docker installation docs So again something that this is not necessarily something that would be production level ready but for Docker compose in The installation docs in the tutorial docs is really fantastic. It helps clean up a lot of the Work that needs to be done by allowing you to configure a file that then uses just the Docker compose up call to configure and run so A lot cleaner a lot more simple and a lot more secure than using something like the docker and docker Which is what we currently have as instructions. So All positives there and yeah, I'll partner up with Bruno to take a look at the installation docs once he's finished with the tutorials and We will go from there with the next steps after that pull requests that we had talked about a couple times previously is An addition from a new contributor Sridhar. So they've created They've done this work to now When there is a 404 page Instead of just getting a useless 404 page or a page that doesn't help in any sense of Hey, were you looking for something like this? If you end up on this 404 page and go into the search box you can actually get Hits that are related to what you were searching for or what you were trying to get to so This is really nice. This helps Navigation for users a lot and hopefully will lead to better user experiences for when they are running into those events where they don't find something So again, thanks to Sridhar for their work on that and adding that to the the 404 page Next up so there was a recent addition or recent back in November from a Pomeran you Some of that works on Pomeran. They provided the reverse proxy guide and While it provided some good information the full set of instructions was on is is on their site So we asked or I reached out and asked if they'd be interested in providing the full instructions for the Jenkins documentation They were receptive and have submitted a pull request for just that so now We have the full Pomeran reverse proxy configuration guide here I need to go through review and make sure everything is good to go there But I've already looked at their site and their version of the documentation looks really nice Everything's clean and everything it looks really good there. So I'm not worried too too much about that side Then just thank you very very much again to Pomeran for their support the collaboration and providing the documentation There was another pull request submitted recently about the password reset process for admins So this is fantastic, I've gone through here all the steps look like they work on this is a updated an updated version of a previous pull request that was submitted To document the password reset for admins process However needed a lot of changes. This is the updated version of those changes So everything looks pretty good here. Like I said, I tested the steps. Everything seemed to work It was not specific to my use case, but I'm on a Mac So my commands are a little different, but I know that was able to work around that accordingly Everything else is good to go and it makes sense and works. So I think at the end of the day that that's You know, not the most important thing in the world to worry about so Thanks very much to Berviento for providing this really nice to see and yeah, just another great another new computer new contributor adding some work.  Oh, cool. That's even that's even better. So Oh fantastic them even better Berviento is actually a GSO at mentor really cool. Look at all these sort of occasions. Yeah, so that's that's great And that's great news. Glad to have glad to have them on board Cool and then last thing on the agenda I have for today is just the sponsor attribution page Again, this has been an ongoing Project that we've been discussing since last year Jay frog asked if they could be attributed as a sponsor for the Jenkins project We said yes, absolutely that makes sense. And then that led to more discussion of how do we Set up sponsors. What kind of levels do we have? What are the categories of sponsorship or different ways people can sponsor the project? Etc. Etc. Etc. So we've got a pretty solid list of what that was going to look like Basil crows Created a draft pull request that has an example of the page The there's a handful of levels that everyone seems to be okay with in terms of how those are separated And it's all you know, these are all based on a monetary Sort of status, but at the end of the day, there's many different ways to support and sponsor Jenkins So while it may not be direct money money value that they're sponsoring us with providing, you know mirrors providing servers providing services and All sorts of stuff is hugely invaluable to Jenkins as a as a project So their contributions and their sponsorships are just as important there and then just someone donating monetary value On that note red hat hat is no longer part of the CD foundation So they are not a sponsor of Jenkins any longer. They've been removed from the Jenkins homepage You can see down here. So I still have great sponsors there and then Oracle is still in the process of Or we had asked about Oracle donations. I think we need to remove them if we don't get anything from them And then AWS has just recently donated $60,000 to Jenkins for like server usage and just credits. So like that's amazing. Thank you so much to AWS for their for their donation there That's just that's some weight off our shoulders. So fantastic And then digital ocean has also donated for both 2023 and 2024. So again, really great to hear Thanks to digital ocean for their continued sponsorship And then again, all of these will be part of the new sponsor page. So everyone will be attributed everyone will have their logo and images on the page and Yeah, we'll we'll have that ready for everyone Basil's Enjoying Europe a little bit longer after post-fos them and then yeah, it'll be something that we discussed in the governance meetings going forward so Great, so that brings us to the end of the agenda and so Chris is there anything else you wanted to Throw out talk about discuss today or do we cover everything for you? Okay, great. So then so I'll go ahead and stop the recording in just a moment here Thank you as always for joining take care if you have questions feel free to reach out via community dot Jenkins that I owe anywhere on github that we're in the project or anything else by all means and Yeah, so oh One last note and I don't know this for sure because I haven't talked to mark today But because marks out of office, I don't believe there will be Docs office hours this evening for Asia. It's still on the calendar. So there's a chance it could be I'm not going to cancel that myself, but just throwing it out there that there may not be a Docs office hours later Okay But you're here now Chris. So it's okay Yeah, so yeah, I'll say that to everyone take care. Thanks again for coming. We'll see you next week. And yeah See you again. Thank you