Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of what this channel is now. Now that's right, Dino Bash, and today we still have our active what you might call it. So we got double coin and extra shots. So let's jump into 78. Now I have been thinking, oh should we upgrade some like different shots, but at the same time at level 80 we can upgrade the frost shot again, and at level 80 we can also upgrade the T-Rex again. So, hey, so we're gonna stick with this. Now the only thing maybe, maybe it might be worth going for the frost, like the single frost, because at least that way we can ice some of those, you know, the throwing axe duty dudes. So we'll try out that however, no maybe not, because now I have 6,000 health in this thing, which basically heals a T-Rex on one. That's something I think I didn't have in the last one. So let's jump into it shall we? Next, okay, okay let's go, let's go. I want to use like tricer or the other ones, but honestly then they're gonna be nowhere as good as what we've already got, like a, what do you call it, a mammoth for instance. Okay, okay, I'm happy to, you know, freeze those two, explode that one. Oh, he defended him! Okay, okay, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. Yeah, this doesn't seem too much of a bother. If I'm ice shot, I might have, you know, frozen one of those now. Um, okay, okay, the T-Rex is gonna take a, oh, T-Rex takes a lot of hits. Oh, there's a lot of frosties, my goodness. Uh, okay, that's fine, here comes, we'll do this, yes, there we go. Yes, let's invest in some apples, yes, let's get the apple stalk on the market shall we? Uh-oh, oh no, no, no, no, no. Let's slow him down shall we? Okay, but slow him down so he doesn't stay with them as the T-Rex bites it. Um, the Stegasaur bites also, that's not so good as it. Anything good here? We've got another shaman, anything, I want to build up a little bit here. I mean, we can heal the T-Rex, T-Rex is fine, we can get healed, that's fine.  Right, now we've got two healers here and we can just do that, bam. Get those guys, the T-Rex, T-Rex has done loads, T-Rex done a lot of work. Right, mammoth, T-Rex, and then some raptors. Uh, I think we're good, the Stegasaur's probably gonna die. And throw that in there with a little bit of that, see if anything's still alive. There you go, brilliant. We've got a few flamers, but they're not too bad, I don't need to worry about that. I will worry about him, however. And the Dino, yay! Oh, it was so difficult, so many of them, yes. Lost connection, yes, okay, there we go. Sorry for that, lost some connection there.  Okay, that's, that's, that's all right, we don't need to worry about those. Maybe another mammoth. Maybe another mammoth, we're bringing the fight to them now. Yes, T-Rex is gonna need another one. Yeah, I can keep on doing that, that's fine, that's fine. Here we go, another T-Rex. All right, let's see what we've got our way here. We'll probably throw a volcano down here, because it doesn't really do a great deal of damage, if I'm honest. All right, so here comes the mammoth, a dead raptor, throw another raptor. You know, the mammoth, it does all right, it takes a few hits. It's, it's almost, I mean it's more greater than the T-Rex. But it doesn't dish out the damage like the T-Rex does, however. All right, anything else? Uh, yes, let's hit that. Maybe we can get, um, the fire as well. Yeah, perfect, so he does nothing now. Um, come on, oh no! Oh no! That's okay, we're gonna, we're gonna make a comeback here.  Boom, yes, some more apples, please. And here we go, let's go, let's go. They're a bit of poison, doesn't really do a great deal here. You know, just heal the mammoth, keep them going. Uh, now what we got? Frosties. Oh, we got the tank. Now we can't hurt the tank until it's head pokes out. So we're gonna have to be a little bit cautious here. Yes. That's okay, that's okay, that's okay. No, the T-Rex, it's all good, it's all good I think. Uh, I will slow down these then, because we do need a little bit of a breaker. Oh, thank God, yes! That was lucky. We're gonna have to be a bit careful with this dino here. Bye, and he's, I mean, we got loads of health on the egg now. Oh, he was killed by, so I don't know what he was killed by, but he was killed by eggs. Oh, I don't know, I don't know. This, this not so good. Wow, the damage, and it's all because of these bad guys. Oh, Jesus! Never mind, it's not just that. Oh, we got the healies. Oh, we got a good healies. Oh, I killed the stacker! No! Oh God, T-Rex taking hits. T-Rex, a blizzard, it's time for a blizzard. We're gonna have to do a little bit of a blizzard here.  Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, not good, not good.  Oh, oh no! Hey, at least we still got 10,000 coin though. Right, so, what would have worked better there? You know what? Yeah, let's switch out the map for the Spinosaurus. Because at least they can stay back and probably do some damage. T-Rex goes in. I mean, a Brachiosaur would be good, but that's a lot. The health actually works. Now, we can keep that for the T-Rex. I've gotta remember that. We used that for the T-Rex. Right, okay. That was only three minutes, guys. Only three minutes? Oh, no, wait, maybe seven. I forgot we had some trouble recording, didn't we? All right, so we'll do that, do that, do that. There we go. Right, so, we got a timeness. Hit that guy. If we can use the little ones, we'll use the little ones. So, there will be another one coming through. That's fine. There you go. Fantastic. And then another one here.  Almost kill that guy. Not bad, not bad. All right, we'll definitely kill that one. No, you don't. However, this guy poses a little bit of a problem. Wait, what? You saw that, that was cheeky. Oh, I do not believe that. The lettuce decided to not go for it? What? Yeah, I've just gotta throw it all. Keep them going. Another T-Rex. I think there's things. Oh, here we go. There's the problem. There's the problem. Okay, we're gonna have to hold off a little bit. We're gonna have to hold off a little bit. If we can, you know, do some damage. But we need to take care of this healing. There is another healing behind it. Right, okay. Okay, we can throw some here. Wait for these two to catch up to each other. And I think that'll do. I think that's gonna get both of those guys. Yes, beautiful, beautiful. Just wait for the T-Rex to take a little bit more damage. Because he can almost be dead, basically, before I heal him. Yeah, look at that. So good. Right. Now let's get some raptors. Let's get some Noot Noots. Another one here. Don't have enough for that. That's fine. Just keep them obeyed. It's okay. Raptors, raptors. You need to get in there. You need to slow them down. Slow these guys down. Yes. Keep them slowed. All right. Kills him. Very good. Yes. Oh, yes. Look at that. They're doing great. A little bit of fire. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Heal. You bugger. Yeah. Ho, ho, ho, ho. Yeah. Let's keep the apples up. Let's get some more spitties. This is okay. You know what? Sod it. I will. I'll just destroy it. Buy them. Yes. Okay. Maybe this time we'll be all right. Lord knows. Heaven to Betsy. Oh, there's flamers. There's flamers. That's that's that's bad. That that's very bad. Okay. But yes. No, that it was awful. It was terrible. It was very bad time. Very bad time. But good news is we can probably hit these two together. So we'll get those. Yes. Come on. Oh, no. This is not so good. All right, we'll hit these guys. Hit just hit everything here. Brilliant. Great. We'll get another one here. Hit. Oh, why is he's moving in slow motion? How's he doing that? It's a magic. Right. It's this guy that really is the issue. That's all right. That's all right. Is there any more coming? Okay. We'll just freeze this. Get the t-rex. Get those. We're good. Yep. Yep. We killed the flamer. Flamer do dead. And another don't hit the brush. No, the bush. Anything but that bush. Okay. We need to be careful here. Right. Okay. We got that. We got that going. Slow him down. Slow him down. This is this is where it gets dangerous. This is where it gets very dangerous. I need that frost. I need that frost. I need that frost. I need to hit here. Hit everything here. Just hit everything here. Whoa. Yes. Brilliant. Okay. That's not bad. That's not bad. We got a lot of spittosaurus just tanking the shots from the catapult. That's what we want. Yes. Come on. More of that. More of that. You're going. We got this. Just keep getting the raptors. Raptors are good. I think this is the last one. And in comes a big hit. That's okay. Yep. Do you? Uh-huh. More of this. Other than the noot noots have really came through here because the mammoth, you know, we need numbers here. We need to soak up these shots. So. I think we're good. I think we're good. Oh, the stegosaurus already hitting against it. Raptors and whoop. Oh, they. Oh, he can't be hurt by dinos. Wait, what? Why is he not hurt by dinos? What's going on? I'm so confused. What's going on? Um, hello? I'm really not sure. Can I hit him? Oh, just regular rocks hurt him. Oh, so like the big hunger. Ah, okay. I didn't know that. And there you go. We did it much better this time with many technical difficulties, but fingers crossed touch wood. We're all good. So we get to 80 and then we can buy. We can upgrade the frost thing. We can upgrade the t-rex. But also this seems to be something that maybe we hit in the sky. And then it'll make thunder and lightning and fire. Very, very frightening things. So looking forward to that. Right. Level 79. Let's go. It's only 140 levels, right? 120 something like that. That's good. I think that's my best stars, t-rex and stego. Okay. Let's see what's in the bush. What's in the bush? Oh, you're in the bush. Okay. Well, we'll also do that and get another one. Okay. Okay. You know what? I can handle one. I can handle one. We'll send a raptor out. We'll send a raptor out. Yeah. There you go. And he chomps him. Oh, that'd be cool if the stego accidentally killed him. Right. Let's see what's in this. I don't need to worry about the t- I mean, the terex is going to take a beating here. Why? Why did you do that? Why? I have no idea what the letter is. Just all of a sudden sometimes goes, you know what? No, I think I actually want to attack people. That's what I want to do here. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Boom. Get rid of them. Get rid of them. All right. Okay. It's just release whatever's in the hedge. It's another flamer, but it's okay. Flamer not too bad. Let's get some more apples. Plants some more apples, please. Whoosh. Okay. A flame. Oh, you know what? Maybe that's not a good idea. Yep. Just do that. There we go. Just doing lots of hits. We'll set that guy off. Do a freezy. Yes. Oh, yes. The stego actually killed him. That's amazing. Okay. A little bit of that. A little bit of this. A little bit of that. There we go. I think rank three's good. Rank three's good. He does a lot of damage. We can almost kill him. Almost kill him. These two are basically dead. And one hit these guys. It's the flamer I need to watch out for. I can still kill him in one hit if he doesn't get hidden by her, which I don't think he will do. Oh, the stego. Wow. Oh, the stego gone. Okay. Never mind. Right. That's fine. This is brilliant. Yep. Kill all of those. A little bit of that for him. Now we'll wait for it to get close. Because why not? Yes. Oh, God. There was like three of them there. Damn. Right. Okay. So we'll put that in. Put that in. More speedies. I'm tempted to go maybe a higher rank for the apples, but I don't really need to. I mean, look at this. Look at the health we got here. We got the frost just in case something bad comes out. So that's good too. I think I hear a tank. Yes. I think I also see a tank. Okay. That's not so good. Yeah. Well, there you go. We throw some stuff. We'll probably heal the T-Rex a little bit. Get more noot noots. A little volcano bomb. Maybe that'll do damage. Volcano bomb surely. The tank still hasn't done anything. Oh, we got healies. However, although I think the healie died. If we can heal that T-Rex, that would be... Oh, T-Rex died. T-Rex died. Not so good. If I can get the frost through. Okay. I think we've lost him. I think we've lost him. Oh, no. We got him. We got him. Never mind. Oh, right. Okay. So a lot of damage being done here. Stuff. It's tough. I think the stego... Maybe the stego not hurting it. I don't think the stego is hurting it. Okay. Okay. This is all right. I don't think this is the last one. But we've got a lot of apples. We've got a lot of apples. We have no healers coming in. What I'll do is I'll freeze these guys. We'll get the stego. Oh, it killed them. Okay. Okay. So it's just T-Rex. No, T-Rex, dammit. I always just miss it. All right. We'll drop him down. Okay. Okay. Let's build up again. Now I could, if I wanted to, explode these. But they're pretty much dead. In like one hit from the T-Rex. Or even a couple of stego shots. So I'll drop that. That should kill them. Set them down. That's great. Okay. Here it comes. Big explosion. Here we go. Boom. Yes. That's what we want to say. Killed the nuisance that is that bloody, what do you call it? The, the... Human dino. I don't know what to call it. Now we've got plenty for another T-Rex. I could have used the lettuce if I was paying attention. But I was too focused on that word. I could just couldn't get it out. Right. I think, I think we're done though. Think we're done. Boom, boom. And a frosty. And I think that's it. Boom game. Yes. Is it?  It's always when you just... You're starting to make that comeback. You're like, right, I'm running through this and then... And then that happens. So we did it, right? Raincloud fire cavemen are not so happy in the rain. It puts out the fire cavemen. That's brilliant. No. I will never rate five. Oh, no, no, no, no. Right. Okay. So we need to go upgrades. Go to special. Now how much is it? Is it coin? Please be coin. Oh, and it's so cheap. Yes. Now what do we... Is that a shot? I don't think that's a shot. I think that's just something that appears on the map. And I can probably call for it. So one more level and we upgrade the frost. We can upgrade the t-rex. Brilliant. Oh, sweet. So it just stays there. Caveman rush. I don't know if I like the sound of that one. So will it just stay there? Do I click on it? I don't know. I have no idea. All right. Well, I'm going to freeze those guys. So at least it's just this one. Oh, it's going to be healers. It's healers all round, apparently. Okay. All right. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Let's heal him. Yep. Oh, we're actually... We actually are killing them, which is interesting. I don't need to worry about setting that off just yet. I think I'm more than happy just to make another raptor. Oh, wow. The raptor going ham. And the stego now. I don't know if the stego is going to be able to do it in time. Is this it? Is that it? Is that all this was? I think it was as well. We found a new best level, 80. Just put a t- Oh, maybe you need a little bit of concentration on that one. But not bad. So to make it a 67 and 80 are good grinding levels. Okay. So let's upgrade shots. Now it should be the frost one. I don't need to care about you. Okay. So we can get that to... Oh, yes. Max level. It is 1,900. So dinos now. Let's have a look. Now t-rex, 47,000. Boom. Skip. There you go. 85. He's got a little helmet on. So now has 7,000. Oh, it's a lot of health. Yes. Even twice upgraded frost and a single upgraded t-rex to get us going even further. So that rain cloud seems to be a fail safe for the hammers or the throwers. They're pretty dangerous. I will slow them down just so if I can get them closer together hitting something else. Yeah, like that. Like that. That's what I was worried about. Boom. Kill that. Do a little bit more damage to you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Volcano. Another hit. Boom. Boom. Boom, boom, boom. I like to talk a lot when I play this game. It's beautiful. Right. Rank three for apples. I think I'm all right. I've got my lettuce. My t-rex is even more upgraded. It does even more damage. I think I can just tank this guy. I'm going to heal the, uh, what? What just happened, May? The lettuce was thrown the dinosaur. Instead. Okay. Okay. I'm going to have to probably say goodbye to, uh, to that t-rex unfortunately because of that massive screw up on my part. Uh, oh, he survived. Damn it. He did so well. Oh, tell me what the stagger when it gets to the hitting. Right. Boom. Yes. There you go. There you go. Come on. Oh, stagger. Don't set that off. Oh, thank you. All right. All right. Volcano. I think I'm happy with that. Uh, we'll just kill him. There's a frost and a shaman, so May's will get rid of them. Oh, rank four for the apples and then kill him. All right. T-rex is probably going to definitely need a healer here. One more hit. There we go. Whoa. Yes. Look at that. It's gorgeous. It was like a random little caveman to take care of there. Right. Uh, it's explosion. Just to, oh, maybe get another bite. Okay. Uh, they're, they're kind of through here. Uh, T-rex. Stego isn't going to stand a chance. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. All right. So Stego and then let's go. We're rank four. We've got the apples we need. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Oh, you did your best bit of source. You did your best. Kind of tempted now for this. It's got to, it's got to kill a lot. Boom. Yes. Want to be careful of what that is because it might be a flamer. And it is a flamer. All right. So let's have that through here. All right. Yep. Let's heal the T-rex. That's like, yes, you've got fire, but you're definitely going to die. Oh, does it go? Does it not do it? Does it do once before? Oh, maybe. Oh God. Oh God. Kill a T-rex. So close. Spitties. No. Okay. Well, they made it through. There's a shaman there. Oh, we got so much. What am I doing? What am I doing? Yep. The pikey boys. Yep. They're an issue. So I will be worried about them. Okay. But incomes everything. Incomes everything. Yep. Yep. Spit of sources is actually better than the mammoth. Just because we need, you know, when you've got loads of apples, you just need things out there to do stuff. Let's heal the T-rex. Where'd it go? Where is it? Apparently I launched it, but it... Really having some issues. Oi! Your fire should be out. Why is your fire not out? Okay. Yep. We're going to have to kill him. Boom. Oh, I don't know what did. Something did loads of damage to him. Oh, okay, okay. All right, all right, all right. Bam. Oh God. Oh yes, so it's active there, but we don't have any flamers. Oh, we do have a shaman. Okay. Little bit of a problem. Little bit of a problem with the shaman. Oh, my noot-noots! I want that volcano bomb again, but then again, the healing. I need the... It's a bit of a... Okay, you're healed in time. You're healed in time, right? Okay, here we go. Here we go. Kill the shaman as well. Yes! Oh, that was beautiful. Jeff's so good at this game. So good at this game. Yep. Okay, if we can slow them down, we will. One another one. And another one. Come on. Come on, raptors.  This thing's one hit and it's gone. Oh yes. Butiful. Right, whilst we've got to worry about, there's a lot of pikey boys. A lot of pikey boys. Right, I've got the frost ready. The frostbomb-y thing. I need them to get close. I think that'll do it. I think that'll do it. Oh, well, I did kill them, but I didn't kill... I didn't kill these guys. Oh! Come on, raptors! Come on, raptors! Oh, I don't have a... I don't have a... Oh, I don't have a T-Rex. We're delaying them. We're delaying them, which I guess isn't too bad. Oh, my new nudes. Oh, Heely. Yep, there's the Heely. Oh, with the hammers. Oh, yes. Yes, new nudes. Brilliant. Yep, eat them. Eat them. I think we might be good here. I'm gonna heal the T-Rex. T-Rex healed. This is brilliant. Yep.  He got one off. Oh, it doesn't... If he dies... Oh, I think if he dies, it doesn't count. That's these guys, man. They're right pains in the butts. Because they do so much damage. Poor T-Rex. Oh, isn't this charming?  Heal yourself. Okay, yep. I'm getting another one. That's okay. That's all right. That's all right. You know what? I'll do it. I'll do it. I don't really want to, but for the sake of... I knew it! I knew it would be something we didn't want. All right. Man, I'm just gonna do damage to him. Yep. Okay, he's gone. He's gone. All right, let's see. T-Rex, come on. One more hit. There we go. Get your health back. That's right. Keep on me soon. Come on. We don't need a T-Rex. Just kill him. No! Okay, we need a T-Rex. We need a T-Rex. Uh... Let's see what's in here, I suppose. Let's see. Bugger. Bugger. Bugger. Okay. Let's put you down. He doesn't have any fire on him. Oh, it actually worked. Brilliant. Oh, it's a dynamo. Okay, you know what, Soda?     You're dead. You lose the will... Right to live. Right to life. Yeah, we're gonna need that. Yep. Oh, it worked. Oh. Two. Three. Oh, he died so quick, though. Oh, that's right. Can't touch a raptor for a lot. Okay. Oh, that must... Okay, this must be the last guy. Let's finish him up with everything we got. Frosty. Can we get to... Oh, yes, we did so well. Oh, I love it. Ooh, a rain of deadly meteors. Six. Right, I have never used this thing before, so I'll use it this time. Right. So 80. 82. What's our next one? Now, I think this is actually called Frosty, but I just call the big explosiony Frosty. Is there any shots? We should probably upgrade the healing now that we've got more... More what do you call it? So we can put an extra thousand on the healing. And that is only rank eight. So we'll get that. Now, I do want to use the meteor. I'm tempted to upgrade the big honk, but then we're gonna be getting the big honk times, too. Which to me, just sounds a little bit better. Maybe some could say twice as good. Ooh. Well, let's slow them down. Just get them closer together. Okay. Gonna... Oh, perfect. Buy them. Heck yeah. Oh, oh, I don't like it. No. Okay, we'll have to wait on that one. Where's the rain cloud? Okay, the rain cloud there. This T-Rex is dead. This T-Rex is well and truly dead. Uh, I mean, I may as well. Yeah, I guess. Oh, well, at least he killed them. At least he killed them. Right, here's the frost. Let's go here. Kill a lot of these pike boys, as well as dousing that guy's flume. Sorry, Stego. I'm so sorry. I don't even have enough.  I mean, he's just throwing sticks at this point. Yes, numbs. Num, num, num, numbs. Yes. I think we're good. I think we're good. What else is coming? Put a Healy on him now. Oh, I'm dead. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I can't get to them. He's being protected.  It's like, yeah, that's just better. Oh, we got a Healy? No, no. Okay, flamer.  Rain cloud, go! Rain cloud, please. Do something. Is it when I do a thingy over you? No, it's not. Okay, brilliant. Right. Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. I hope you don't set off that thing. Damn it. Oh, I was hoping we didn't. I'm sure I clicked the vegetable, but all right. Oh, now you do it. Now, okay, let's go for a rank four. Whoa, T-Rex, careful, buddy. We need to heal you. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Come on, heal, heal, heal. Yes. Yes, full health. You may batter him. You may. But yeah, okay. Oh, did you do? Oh, he might have hurt raptors there, actually. That's okay. That's okay. We're almost going to heal you again. Oh, T-Rex tanking it. Go, T-Rex, go. Come on. Come on, yes. Kill all those guys. Get them stuck in there. Whoa, yeah. Apples to be replanted. Oh, unfortunately, the T-Rex just didn't make it there in the end. But these guys will. Go on. You can do it. Eh. Does it take damage here, though? Oh, no. No, I haven't taken any damage yet. Need that T-Rex. Need to keep going. They are killing the Spitties, though, which is interesting. Uh, I will frost these guys. I don't know if there's a healer come. There is no healer, so that's actually really good for me. One more hit, and then I will heal the T-Rex. Yep. Not bad, not bad. I don't really have an answer. I think a big honk would really work here. Oh, no. Yep, keep going. You have all of those. We all ranked four. We're really good. Just tank him. Tank him. Come on. Yes. Oh, Meteor. Let's do a Meteor. What does Meteor do? Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Not bad, not bad. And wherever you're looking, it does things to. Okay. He was just out of range, apparently. Just out of range. This is all right, because I think T-Rex healed yet. Another heal does make a difference. He actually doesn't do too much healies now, I think about it. In the rain. No. So close. Oh, there's two of the buggers. Right. Last wave. Last wave. What have we got? Oh, we got that thing. You know what? I will. I'll place that down there. Boom. Still have not killed him, though. No. Poor Raptors. I will munch you in one bite. Thank you. Oh, God. The double hits from that is absolutely deadly. But this is all we need, though. This is all we need. Okay, we need living more. There we go. Just, just, just damage. Just damage. Just damage. That's what we need. Just damage. And we can do that. As long as there's no healing, we're perfectly fine. Keep going. Keep going. Yep. Keep going. Keep getting stuff. Double healing. Yes. Come on, T-Rex. Come on. A couple more bites. No. Come on, guys. We got this. We got this. We have this. We've got this in the bag, man. Come on. Damages. Damages. No. This thing. There we go. All right. T-Rex is going to tank you now, son. Two shots incoming. Whoabush. Right.  Yep. There's one. And, yeah, they can't attack him. And one more. Yes. It's working. Our strategy is working. Maybe I should have the meteor on the tanks. I probably would have worked better. Ooh, we earned a diamond. Diamond, no. Shoot the hidden bomb to trigger it. The hidden bomb. What's a hidden bomb? Precious. Yep. I think we just got to keep going. We've got to keep going until we hit the point where we can upgrade the T-Rex again. And, I mean, it's working, right? You don't, don't knock it. If it works, don't change it, basically. Right, that's a regular, regular pikey boy. So I can do one on him. And it'll be all right. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.  And then one to kill him. Yes. And then, I think it takes two to kill him. Oh, here you go. He's a big one. That's a big pikey. That's a big pikey. Yep. Tempted just to... Oh, and the Charmin comes up. Brilliant. Okay. We'll upgrade the apples, because why not? T-Rex gets a hidden... Yeah! T-Rex up front is what you want. Yes. Oh, yes! The bush gave him a double attack. And then stopped the animation, did another one. Eh. I think we just go for Raptors here, guys. Yeah, I think that's what we do. Yeah. Just stop them. Stop all of these. Boom. Yes! I mean, yeah, there's a little bit of a thingy here. A little bit of a choke maybe. Boom. Slow them down. More Raptors are coming. So, it's not really much of a problem. Keep him here. Just keep going with Raptors. Yep, there you go. They're dead. That's dead. Oh, my God, yes. This is what you want. This is what you want. Boom. Yes. Healy. Come on, T-Rex. Yes! This is great. We're doing so good. Doing so good. Oh, on the expo. Not even the dinosaur in the skies could get through. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. This is beautiful. Wow. Just because we got up there right to the front. Get in that, T-Rex. What can I say? What can I say? 100 and 19,000 coin though. Very tender. We should definitely spend on some, but I don't know what. 84. Oh, come on. We've got to unlock Frosty. Guys, we're unlocking Frosty. We're unlocking Frosty. We're getting there. We're getting there. It's not going to be that hard. Not going to be that hard. And then I heard that Frosty is just a better Stego. So I'm assuming that Frosty basically just fires what the Stego does, but freezes them and slows them down. And if it does, that's amazing. I want more of that place. Do a little bit of that. Yep, kill him. Slow her down a little bit more. Frost, I would say. Yeah, we'll go for Frost here. Yep, go for Frost. Kill him. Yeah, they've lost their fire. So they're worth this. Really. All I need to do is just stop her from punching him, which I didn't do very well. Oh, I was going to say there is a fire, but it's him. That's fine. That's fine. And we'll get more apples. Yeah, that's fine. We've got a healing ready to go. Don't need to worry. Yeah, just keep on slowing the attack animations. So these will trigger whatever this is, which is a fire. So that's not too much of an issue. And we'll do that. Let's see what comes out. Oh, it's a Dino. It's a Dino. It's a Dino. Boom. Oh, yeah. And we stopped his fire as well. I think it's about time. I think it's about that. Oh, no, here comes a Spiky. Spikies are really dangerous. Yeah. Look at that. Come on, heal. Yes. There's more fires. There's more fires. Oh, God. Come on. You're doing so well, T-Rex. No. Right.  There you go. Now, wow, we got so far to come from. I was like, where is everything? All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. We need to back up with the T-Rex. We need to back up with the T-Rex. The Stegos probably dead. Stegos probably dead. Although maybe not. Maybe not. I can slow these guys down a little bit. And then a Frosty as well, just to get rid of all of this. Yes. Baby. Right. I'm not going to fire that. Just yet. Yeah. Yeah. We're good. We're good. This game just got easy. This game just got easy. The grinding? Best thing to do. If you do have the gems, put double XP on. Oh, sorry, double coinage. And then just do level 67. And you just need a T-Rex and a Stegos. Really just a T-Rex, I think. Okay. Here comes a Healy. That's fine. We killed him. Oh, yes. Yes. Now he's got back up. Now you don't stand a chance. Okay. Okay. A little bit of a problem here with you. But that's all right. I'm just going to focus. I'm also going to heal the T-Rex a little bit. There's nothing else I can do. There's nothing else I can do. I'm assuming the T-Rex is going to die any second from that. Yep. T-Rex is gone. T-Rex is gone. That's okay. Just fight everything down here. Kill it all. And then hopefully, the Raptors can keep this thing at bay until the T-Rex gets here. It's a little bit slow though.  They're doing well though. They're doing so good. The T-Rex comes. Oh, brilliant. However, probably not the best of time. I will admit. Well, everything's dead. So that's great. Another T-Rex, another Stego. We haven't even used the explosion on the floor yet. All right. I'm going to do that. Hopefully there's not a healer in the midst. If there is, I will just take that out. That's fine. We need another Frosty. We need another Frosty. Oh, God. Okay. Yep. It's going to have to be here. It's going to have to be here. Here we go. Here we go. Big explosion. Boosh. Yes. And another meteor. Sweet. Should we do it here? Die for the betterment of Mars. It doesn't actually kill them all. That's a bit of a shame. I think we're good. I think we're good. Another explosion here. Another thing. Boosh kills any other ones. Almost. And I think this is it. I think that's it. That's all we need to do. We're definitely going to unlock Frosty. How is it? Hell yeah. As soon as we unlock Frosty, we can just max it up. Or at least, you know, max it up to the point where. We don't need to do much else to do it. Oh, I'm excited. Yes. Oh, look at all that coin man. Hell yeah. Do the rolling stones do much? I should put them all on. Do rolling stones, Blizzard, and the meteor strike. That'd be great. I honestly don't think there's any point in changing anything I've got because it just works a treat. That, that, that. Four or four meteors, four blizzards, and three rolling stones. Okay. Try and keep them tightly compact if I can. Oh God. I hear, I hear the thing. I hear the, the bloomin' tank already. That's not so good. Okay. Yep. We're going to have to do that. Freeze them. Kill him. He is a problem. Kill him as well. Oh boy. This one's, this one's really going to be tough. It's really going to be tough. I will dump it on you. I will do this. Oh, there's two of them. Actually not so bad. Not so bad. The T-Rex is dead, which isn't good, but it's not the worst thing in the world. All right. T-Rex again. Oh my God. There's Stego. There's Stego. All right. Come on one more. Come on. Come on in. Come on. There we go. All right. What we got. Uh, right. So we definitely need to freeze these and just take them all out. That's what needs to happen here. Boom. Yep. And there we go.  Yes. Okay. Heal him. Heal. Yes. Right. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You can kill the axe ones. They don't do a whole great deal of damage. It's the tank that does. He's going to die, however. So I need to make sure that I've got 11 from the next T-Rex. Brilliant. Uh, now I can hit him. Yes. I can hit you. I can. Yes. He's dead. Yes. Brilliant. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Don't even worry about them. They're probably dead in this hit actually. Yes. Right. Frosty for the shaman. There's no point. I need to wait for the Frosty. I need to wait for the- The shaman is the big problem here. That's it. So here we go. And then we'll heal. Kills all of them. And we're perfect. And now to invest all the rest of the apples into the spittasaurus. I love that you guys love this because I love playing it. It's so much fun. Come on. Well, that kind of a waste, but A-ho, what are you going to do? Is that it? Oh, it's not it. It's not it. And we're not getting right to the top as well, which is a bit of a problem. Because then, even if your shaman comes out, we still attack it. So at the moment, we've got a tank coming through. I don't know if the T-Rex needs health. Oh, it did. It did need some sort of health. That's okay. Something's on low health. Yep. We'll just do that. We got that guy coming through. We'll try and stall him. We'll heal the T-Rex. Keep on killing him. No, he's still coming through. Still coming through. Okay, here we go. And then plop that there. It's gonna take a while. I don't think T-Rex is gonna last. T-Rex didn't last. That's all right. Oh, there's a tank there, though. No. The tank is just sitting there and absorbing all of the hits because I can't do damage to the tank. And I gotta wait for Frosty now. Maybe I can hit the tank here, though. No, I don't think so. Don't think so. We'll slow them down a little bit here, just a little bit. Right, Frosty. Frosty, here we go. Come on. Come on. Yes! Yes! Hit it! Hit it! Yeah! There we go. That's how we do it. Yeah! Okay. Let's build up. Let's get that Stegosaur going again. Last wave. Right. We'll heal the T-Rex. Perfect. Um, I don't know what that is. So that could be also a bit of a problem if there's a Dino in disguise. Oh, it's not. And it's perfect. Yes! It's actually... It can't hit him. Sweet. Okay. Sharma, not a problem. Just throw everything else down. Just to do more damage. Slow things down. He's a problem. Hit him. Yeah! Okay, slow him down a little bit. That's not so bad. Yep. Get through. Get through. Get through. Kill him. Kill him. Kill him. Come on! Kill him! No! I think they're backed up. They're backed up. They're backed up. All the Raptors died. But... We've won. I'm... I'm pretty safe in assuming we've won this. Look at that one newt-newt. No!   Right. Just Raptors now. Raptors and T-Rexes and Heelys and We Good.  I had no idea. Okay. Well, throw that on. And then throw a Frosty. And we're good. That's it. That's game. Yep. Nothing they can do. One more hit from the T-Rex and boom. Yes! We're like one away. We're one away from unlocking that new dinosaur. And we've got so many coins. And I didn't even realize there's a Spinosaur in this level. Or at least in this game. So I'm looking forward to that. But I think it's near the end. Here. Oh, we're two away. No! We're so close. We're so close to Frosty. Come on. We can do it. We can do it. Destroy the tanks. Stay goes being MVP though. Just with the constant, you know, throwing of the dat- of the uh... Or slowing them down. Take down the flyers. It's- it's been really good. Been really good. I'm gonna do that. Because there's a shaman there. Brilliant. Come on. We need that T-Rex up at the front. But then with this guy, it's gonna be a bit of a problem. As long as there's not a shaman or spikies or a fire flamethrower thing. This is good. This is good so far. I like this. Uh, let's invest in rank 3. Rank 3's safe. Rank 4, I feel like I'm- I'm completely safe. Okay, so Frosty here. Good to kill that guy. Uh, Healy on him. Come on, come on. We got this. We got this. Get to the front. Don't- I don't wanna hear another- I don't wanna hear that. Don't wanna hear that. Here we go. Here we go. Good, good, good. Yes. Come on. Yes! Yeah. Okay. I think we've done it. I think we've done this one. Yeah. There we go. Oh. Oh, it's so good when you do it. It's so good when you do it. All right. Here we go. There's the Charmin. We'll just throw that down. Just to slow everything down here. And just do loads of damage to it. Maybe a volcano bomb again. A little bit more damage. We'll heal a T-Rex soon. Not just yet. There we go. That'll do. Oh, yeah. Look at that, man. Look. Look at that. Oh, yeah. Oh, the pipes didn't get a chance. Didn't get a chance. Frosty, come on. And a Healy. Yes. Oh, it's so good. The T-Rex is so OP. Brilliant. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's a problem. No, I don't like that. Don't like that. Don't like that. Heal you and hit him. There's a Charmin there as well. And I think the T-Rex is about to die because I'm having to focus on this. Oh, it's actually not looking too bad. We'll do another Frosty just to slow them so I can heal my T-Rex. Oh, my God. We're on 45. Are we done? Oh, wow. Okay, that was a good one. So now on to the level that we unlock Frosty. This is the strap. This is the strap. Frosty, come on. Is this going to be a hard one? Who can say? But hopefully we can keep this episode under an hour because sometimes we're on like 40, 50 minutes. Okay, 10 minutes. Come on, we need a lock Frosty. We need a lock Frosty. I don't care about you guys. You're okay. I will throw a volcano bomb just because that does a fair amount of damage to you. I think I'm still okay with all these bushes. I'm okay with the T-Rex setting these bushes off. I'm not okay with this, however. Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. There we go. Just had to, just had to, just had to. I didn't know what it was, but I wanted to take him on.   Here we go, 20 as well. Oh, there's the shaman. There's the shaman. There we go, we got him. But there is a pikey boy there. Here's a pikey boy. Stego doing its best. Doing its best. Oh, it would have killed the other one. It would have killed the other one. Okay, shaman there. That's all right, that's all right. Rank three, rank three. Blizzard would be good. I do like a blizzard. There's the rain. There's a raptor dying, sacrificing itself so willingly. Beautifully. Go one more hit, and then a hit onto him, and then a chomp, and that kills it. Wow, that was a good coordination there, James. Very good.  What? Oh, that's weird. I am tempted to go for 45. Oh, God. Yeah, we need to do this. Go for 45. Boom. And then oh, no, the rock's not enough. Come on, T-Rex. We're like, wait, what? Why did you not die? I threw a thing on him.  All right. Okay. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. There's another big rock chunk. That's it. That's perfect. No, he's going to hit the sego. You were the chosen one. All right. Okay, okay. Just want to hold off that. Oh, we got a shaman at the back. Okay, so I want to time with those two. That's what I want to do. No. All right. I think that'll do. I think timing it there's good. Yep, that's perfect. Now the two of those. Oh, God, they are getting close now. It's because they've been healed and I've had to use the frosty for other things. Otherwise, these wouldn't really have stood much of a chance. I've just got him. I'm on rank four. I need to use the apples if I can. That's what I need to do. I don't think I need to use a frosty here, however, because I've got plenty of apples to get another one of that. To do that, to slow them down and a stego as well. You know what? Sod it. I will use a frosty here. Although I should have used a frosty there. There's two of them. No. Okay, just gain some apples. Just gain some apples. Hold them off. Gain some apples. Throw that down there just to keep them at bay. Just so they're not healing this thing. There is a... There is a... Oh, there's a big pike ones. This has not went well. This has not went well for me. There's the frosty. I don't care about that. Just kill all of those guys. Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. No, we're so close. I mean, we do have the blizzard. Yes. Let's use the blizzard. T-Rex has died. There's another T-Rex. We'll do that and that. Meteors, good. I like a meteor. Yes. Okay, meteor. I love meteors. Beautiful. Right, so the blizzard. Oh, it's about to get tough. It's about to get tough. Okay, we need all the raptors we can get here. All the raptors and all the apples. He's gone. Another T-Rex. Volcano bomb, volcano bomb. Oh my god. Oh my god, more raptors. More raptors. More raptors. Yes. Yes. Raptors, go ahead. Tank the shots. Yes. You see he's doing high AP shots here with the D6 damage. If you know Warhammer. However, I've got swarms so it's wasted. Yes. Heal them. Yep, that's it. That's it. Whoa. There's two of them. Oh god. Oh god. Okay, yep. Does that do damage? It does do damage. Okay, okay. So that's one gone. No, big chuck would do it. I think it would. Does that hit it as well? It does. Okay, so Frosty's really good for taking them on. New dino arrived. Made Frosty. Where is he? Is he slow? I'm assuming he's really slow. Where's Frosty? Oh there. I can't see him. He's behind the Stego. Interesting. It's like an armadillo with a snow at the back. What does it do? And nothing. Oh yeah. It's definitely going to replace Stego. It's definitely. It'd be cool if Stego and Frosty, but you need like the Spitosaurus. You need that as well. Oh, he's so cute. His icy bullets will freeze cavemen and douse fires. Let's go to shop. Hell yeah, we're going to shop. Buy that. You know what? Blizzard's a good. If I need to put out loads of fire, I can do a Blizzard.  Okay, let's have a look. Dinos. He's going to be at the bottom. At the bottom. So Frosty is level one. 16,000. Okay. Skip. Uh, skip. Upgrade. Yes. Upgrade. Upgrade. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Skip. Upgrade. Oh, I ran out of coins. But he's level. What level is it? What level? Eight. And it's uh, Oh, it does 477 damage. Oh, it's like a bite of a T-Rex. No way. Okay. We're close to upgrading the T-Rex again for an extra 100 attack, but we're going to leave it there. Join us next time for Voice Cracks when we will take on, like, try out Frosty and newly upgraded, and I'll see you cuties later! Oh buh-bye!


Next question is from Andrew Beth. In each of your opinions, which popular exercise movements do you think are actually useless and a waste of time? You know, I'll tell you why this is a tough question, because in the right context with the right application, all exercises have value. So I'm gonna kind of change it a little bit because if it's done the right way for the right person, the right context, any exercise can have value. So let's talk about popular exercises that most people get no value out of because it's the wrong context and the wrong application. I think a lot of these machines, a lot of times for most people, tend to be a waste of time. The inner and outer thigh machine or whatever you wanna call them, the bad girl, good girl machine. That's the first one that comes in mind for me. Yeah, oftentimes people, they're using them wrong, they don't need to use them, the context, you're kind of wasting 15 minutes sitting on that machine. There's things that are way, way more effective for your body. Yeah, I've heard some people try and argue it in terms of rehab, like to get the need to track better. There's an exception to every rule, right? Exactly, that's gotta bring that up. Right, no, it's a great point and there's not a single exercise that we can name that. That's always a waste. Right, that somebody can come back and argue and say, what about this situation? Well, yeah, that situation, so I'm gonna try and pick something that I see a lot and I would say is a waste of time for probably 90% of the people that I see doing it and it's like butt kickbacks. Yeah, yeah. So glute kickbacks or butt kickbacks, whatever you want, very, very popular exercise. People do them all the time in the gym. They do them because you can feel it in your butt but I see them doing it 15, 30 plus reps of this all day long. That exercise is probably one of the biggest waste of time that I see most people doing. You get far more benefits doing a loaded exercise for the glutes like a hip thrust or like a squat or like a sumo deadlift.  I don't know how popular but I've seen this in every gym and it insults me every single time I see it. And that's over at the assisted pull ups and then pushing their foot down against the weight that's supposed to then elevate you up and relieve you of your body weight on some level but they're using it to just push and extend their leg down. I wanna slap you in the face. It's like a single leg press that they're using it for. It's not even that. A single leg press is way better. No, no, no, it's like they're doing an extremely ineffective version. Ineffective, yeah. Yeah, I just, I can't even wrap my brain, hurts my brain and I just want everybody to stop doing that. Yeah, I agree with you on that. I think that one's a terrible one. I do, you know, what's that one chest press?  Oh, the Sven press. Sven, Sven. Okay, Sven press has some applications sometimes. 99% of the people I see doing it, I don't understand.  You're squeezing your chest. You don't need to press anything to do that. You can just push your hands together. It reminds me of a cry to kid part two, right? Where he's like doing his little like meditate and then he breaks the glass or ice. Yeah, ice, my bad.


Welcome back. The World Igbo Congress has rejected the security outfit, codenamed Ibubeagu, which was recently set up by governors of the southeast region. The group instead advised governors of the region to support the eastern security network ESN so it can become a strong security outfit for the Igbo ethnic group. They were also encouraged to refuse to be tools in the hands of the fully ethnic group who have vowed to conquer Nigeria. Now joining us to discuss this is Uche Okoku, the secretary-general of Hanezen Dibo and Obonna Oke, a politician. Good evening to you, gentlemen. Many thanks for joining us. Let me start with you, Mr. Obonna Oke. Looking at what happened not too long ago with the formation of Ibubeagu just last weekend, a lot of people from different angles have said that it was a hasty conclusion by the southeast governor. What is your take, rather concerning that you think it was hastily done in the wake of the Igbo Congress asking them to boost the eastern security network rather? Let me thank you for the opportunity. First, I'm quite aware that there are widespread concerns across the country as a result of greening security and greening to among the people to have alternatives when it comes to security protection. So the Ibubeagu thing, which is like a multi-cruel response in the northwest, and the security area in the north, all point in one direction. But I think of what is possible to be safe. And also the fact that many of us living in this country who are scared of the unknown want the best of security arrangements that will never come to us. All right. But do you think right now that it is what is needed right now? Because the Ipob and the ESN, they are saying that the governors are planning on compiling their names and that they are going to make the southeast heart if their way is not really the way at the end of the day? I think that we have been talking about non-state actors trying to model their way into the way we believe and operate in Nigeria. And I believe that the response by the southeast governors, what do you mean? They cannot sit down and fold their hands and allow the issue of security, particularly at a time that it wouldn't at the level of security. People are talking about devolution of power. For some persons, non-state actors to take control of security related issues. No, that shouldn't happen. So we should be full of place for southeast governors to take in what I consider pre-emptive position and also engender confidence amongst the people of the southeast. The support that Hanel did, for example, is throwing behind what the governors are doing at this time. So just clearly that we need to build on our security. Here we are, we are a group of persons, of course the police are accusing Ipob of responsibility in the Moponbe. We have seen police stations attack. We have seen people put at risk by non-state actors. And so we cannot. We cannot. I believe that if we genuinely want to talk about security in this country, then we should be talking about the system which includes the security agencies and which needs the support of locals. And I think that's the background behind the Boogalago. All right, thank you. Let's bring in Mr. Okuko into this conversation right now. You have had the position of the World Ibo Congress and specifically they are saying that the southeast governor should rather incorporate the ESN, which is not legal, by the way. So what is the particular position concerning that? Thank you very much. First, let me correct an impression. I'm the Deputy President General for an ESN Ibo. I was the Secretary General of the Organization from January 2017 to January 2021. On January 9, 2021, I was elected Deputy President General. All right, well, no heads up. Yeah, go ahead sir. My position is in this way. First, the governors are not speaking for the Orhanese because Orhanese speaks for the entire Ibo's. And the governor clearly said they were speaking for the part of the Orhanese consequence, which they said is the southeast. There are Ibo's in states outside the southeast river states, Delta, Awaibom, and those states. So they are not speaking for Orhanese. Two, I vehemently oppose. I vehemently oppose. I repeat it for the third time, I vehemently oppose.  I will never support the handling of civilians who are not trained and who don't understand the rules of engagement. Nigerians will regret it in the future. They will turn out to become local militias and name the people. What the Nigerians need today is to increase the number of policemen, recruit more police, more civil defense, more DSS, train them, arm them, and ensure they obey the rules of engagement. I don't support I mean civilians. Alright, since the Orhanese does not support Ibo Bagu, and of course the ESN or other civilians bearing arms, there's been a space of insecurity in the southeastern part of the country. We are all aware of what has happened in Imo's data just recently. So just what would you prefer as the immediate solutions to all of these security challenges in the immediacy with Devlin, the South East? I support collaboration between the space and the community. To the extent of intelligence gathering, intelligence gathering, and they're reporting person over that intelligence with security agencies. That is the extent to which I can support a collaboration, but I can never support I mean civilians because you cannot control them. You cannot determine what they will do with arms. Alright, let's bring all the guests into this conversation. You have heard the position of Mr. Okuku. He says it's not in the best interest of the southeastern state of, or even Nigeria to give arms to civilians who are not really trained to handle all of these issues of pockets of security that just be Devlin, the nation, and of course indeed the southeastern. What would you really advise in the immediacy? How do we begin to, you know, leap this issue of security in the board because it is ever increasing by the day in the southeast? Hello, can you hear me? Alright, we'll take a quick break. We'll go back and talk some more. Stay with us. Welcome back to Plus Politics. Let's talk now to a one-on-one care politician. Uche Okuku, of the Ohadesa and Igbo, is against giving arms to civilians who are not ordinarily trained to handle that. So, with all the growing insecurity in the southeast, in the immediacy now, what would you prefer as solutions? My board, the biggest problem facing this country is we take decisions and tend to implement decisions without a deep base for this. We must distinguish between planned criminality and spontaneous reaction. If a people gather and then break up prison, a people gather and bomb police stations, that is a criminal act. It is because the state has failed to investigate crime, arrest the cops, please, and put them on trial.  It is beyond the issue of breaking police stations and prisons and so on.  The state must be prepared. The first duty of the state is to protect lives and property. They must take all practical steps to ensure that they develop capacity to protect lives and property. It is because there is a crime somewhere, or the violation of the law somewhere. You will now harm civilians, which means as it increases, you will continue to harm civilians and all civilians will possess arms and they will abuse it. This state will report it to Somalia where you don't know who you are talking to. Everybody is a militia holding arms. And the arms will be used against the state and the state actors, and that is my fear.  Let me just read out something to you by the WIC over the weekend. They said that the Southeast Governors need to revitalize their justice department and begin to prosecute violators of the open grazing law by enforcing the laws in their book. It will help in checking the Marauding Fulani Hurtzman creating a stereotype security outfit now is no longer a priority than helping in strengthening the existing ESN. So specifically, do you think that anti-open grazing would be the issue to solve it, all of the Marauding Fulani Hurtzman attack in the Southeast? I have spoken in the past on grazing. I have advocated that the state must intervene to ensure that the Fulani Hurtzman or other Hurtzmen, not let us read the Fulani. Of course, you saw when cattle entered cows, entered Wulusio and cows house, the owner of those cows were not the Fulani. They were the Yoruba man. The Yoruba man had those cows, but he got the Fulani to rear them. So we most importantly investigate and go beyond the Fulani Hurtzmen that you don't have rights. And I say it, whether the Fulani Hurtzmen, whether ESM, whether the Yoruba group, nobody has the right to possess illegal weapons. And that is my fear. And I have said in the past that this case should come together and provide grazing grants for cattle breeders. In recent times, the cattle breeders are beyond the Fulani. If you have cattle breeders in Yoruba, you have Yoruba cattle. If the state provides the facilities for them, the cattle should stop roaming this place. And there will be, there will be no problems between the cattle breeders and the farmers. All right, so Mr. Oku, just to finalize your thoughts right now on this particular issue, what should be done with the ESM and in your position, is it that the Southeast Governors are wrong completely to have indeed talked about forging common fronts to end insecurity in their terrain? Well, I have said, I am not supporting ESM. I am not supporting the Yoruba group. I have told you, if you don't, you are not careful. There will be a breakdown of land order in the East and it will be between the ESM and the Yoruba group. You know, when you stare into the void, the void will consume you. There was no details for this, no backing it. No rules of engagement, no training. Vote for the ESM and the Yoruba group, so we have to be very careful. All right, thank you for your thoughts. Let's get to your final thoughts on this matter. Mr. Oku, there is like a battle of jaw-jaw between the Southeast Governors, the ESM and the IPOP. Just how do we begin to make sure that we bring everybody to a common front and ensure that at the end of the day the Southeast is completely secure? I think that we have been talking about the devolution of our country and increasingly talking about community policing. Now, the idea of community policing simply suggests that people will be exposed to training. Now, I think that what the Governors of the Southeast are doing is acknowledging that there is a need, a strong need to set up a complemented security apparatus that will work hand in hand with the existing security agencies. Now, the issue of training and all that will eventually be worked out. So, there is no way we can say at this point that guns will be placed in the hands of persons who are incompetent. But, we know that even persons who are not able to collaborate with the body and provide information, they may not. This gun with the persons that Mr. Oku is afraid of may not, may not. The Governors have said that the issue of training and all that, they are in your time, will be something that they will consider. But, perhaps the other goes by which the Vovago is becoming useful in managing the community security is a challenge. Now, I think we should be forward going in this context sometimes we are claiming that security is not sufficient and we are trying. Now, girls are beginning to say let's think a little outside the box. Let's give some perspective. But does it worry you that not much was done in terms of a legal framework before the announcement of the Ibube Ago? Okay, I believe that there is enough to bring people around to speak. What has come about an idea? Now, how this idea will work definitely will be worked out by majestic order. Now, the Governors, who bear the brunt of maintaining lower and higher industry believe that there is a need. They don't need that. To get some persons to support on their efforts that are related to security matters. And I believe too that they have efforts working with them. And that these matters have been talked to. But what should happen in my view is that we live in an era when technology must be deployed. We live in an era where we will not be equal to the idea of consultation. And that when all of these are put together and taken together that we can do something. All right, thank you so much for showing your comments. The police force which may operate within this day. Thank you so much. You did, Mr. Okay. All right, we have to go on this conversation. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the issue of Ibube Ago and of course the ESN with us on plus politics. We'll take a short break and when we return I'll be giving you my take. Stay with us. Well now that Issa Pantami has renounced his extremist ideology he should do what is right and needful. If he truly wants to make up for his past he should continue the work of engaging and radicalizing young jihadists not handling national affairs. Then for Ibube Ago, what the things on ground before the formation of Ibube Ago is there an illegal backing to Ibube Ago the eastern security network that was formed we all agree that it is illegal and cannot take charge of the security space in that area. There is nothing on ground in the southeast to support Ibube Ago so it is quite unfortunate it's just like putting the cart before the horse. And that's plus politics. I am Justin Cardone. We return again 7 p.m. tomorrow. Bye for now.