Rhae Comfort yw'r llai o bwysig. Rhae Comfort, o rhae, yn yr ysgolwch, sy'n mynd i'r ffordd o'r cyd-dwylliant a'r cyfnod yn ymdweithio, ychydig o'r byd. Rhae Comfort, o'r rhae, yn ymdweithio, mae'r ffordd yma yn y cyd-dwylliant yn y cyfnod yma sy'n mynd i'r amgylchedd i'r Ddweithio Ilyw. A'r rhae Comfort yma yn ymdweithio i'r cyd-dwylliant, mae'n ddweithio i'r ddweithio Sèfwyr o phoedd cyfgaredd, dyfododd ac amgyrchu gondolwyd, oedd yn dweud roedd mae'r blwysig oes iawn, oedd yn amlwgaf o'r gondolwydau gwiaith o'r gondolwydau, fel bydd yn dweud yn fwy o'r시�ffaith ymddangos i'r panthau. Byddwn i hwnna ddim yn rhan o'r unrhyw o rhaid pawb ddim yn ddylch chi'n dod o'r ddechrau, rhaid o'r dweud o'r rhaid o'r gondolwydau. Gondolwyd gondolwyd gondolwydd ar yr hyn yn gwybod cyffredig yma ymddangos mean to turn from sins, and that by suggesting that repentance does not mean turning from sin, I am following after the number one error that has crept into the church. Now it's clear he didn't actually bother to watch the documentary before he commented on it. This comes as no surprise because false prophets have very deaf ears and very loud mouths. Despite telling everybody else to repent of their sins, he seems to live in willful defiance to the proverb that says, he that answers ymaddo ffraeg before he hears it. It is a folly yn yshaeim onto him. The documentary already covered some of the verses that he quoted at me in his comment. So when he says, scripture makes it very clear that repentance is turning from sin, the documentary already proved from some of those verses, at least, that it didn't.l having actually demonstrated that most Christians do believe that repentance means to turn from sin, for salvation. Even false denominations of Christianity and false religions defined yn gyfnod yn ysynol iawn oedd yw'r ysgol yn gwneud o'r cyffredinol a'r cyfrifysgol. Rwy'n obi'n rhan fyddwyd yn ysgol i'r modd ychydig yn ysgol yn fwy oherwydd, ychydig hefyd mae'n sgol i'r modd ymarfer, mae'n gwneud. Felly yn y cerddur yma, rwy'n gweithio'r arno yma'r gweithio'r pasadau fyddwydau ond mae'n gweithio'r rhan fyddwyd, ac mae'n gwybod y context ar gyfer rhan fyddwyd yw. felly mae have to refer back to those videos rather than re-explaining material I've already covered. I'm going to show you how a false prophet, such as RehComfort, uses sly manipulative tactics to deceive people and preach a false definition of repentance as it pertains to salvation. So the first scripture that he presented to prove that repentance means turning from sin and he was very precise to say sin's plural, not one sin. It is E.Q. 1821-23. And the first thing that struck me about this is that his yw'r rhaid wedi gweithio hwn wedyn dwi'u adael hwnnw ac mae'n bleidgau'r hyffordd hyn, ond hynny wedi'i adael hwnnw'n ymwneud y siarad? Rhaid hwnnw'n mynd i'n meddwl gyda'r ffordd rhaid hynny'r gweithio'n ddeuliant. Rhaid hwnnw'n meddwl cymaint ac yn adael y bwyllgor yn griffyrdd. Gweithio'n meddwl y cwmaint o hes, allan ni'n meddwl i'r ffordd. Ond o ffrannu ymlaen i reall, mae yna'n gallu'n mynd i'n meddwl. Ond mae'n ffordd o'r syniadau a'r ffordd o'r hawliau yma yn y ffordd. Fydiw yng Ng wych yn 17, ac mae'r ffordd o'r syniadau dyna yw'r ffordd o'r awdd yma wedi'i'n ddechrau. Ac mae'n gwybod y ffordd o'r cyffredig gyda'r cyffredig, mae'n ymdweithio'r golygu'r llyfr yw'r brif. Fydwch chi'n cyffredig? Mae'n cyffredig o'r golygu'r golygu'r golygu'r golygu. Mae'r ydych chi'n gwybod bod yr amser yn ymarferwyr yw'r own yn ymddangos. Ry cwmherwydd yn ymddangos cael y pethau ymddangos ymddangos Paul Wanned yn Ynys Gwmhysol Cynlludau. Paul Wanned yn ymddangos ymddangos ymddangos ymddangos ymddangos i ddweud ymddangos ymddangos i ddweud. Ac rwy'n ddweud ymddangos ymddangos i ddweud ymddangos. Yn hyn, mae'n meddwl i'r Godf. Fel y gallwn gydweithio'r Gwmherd yn ymddangos chi, But just by quoting Ezekiel 18 to justify his definition of repentance for eternal salvation, he is going about to establish his own righteousness. So with that being said then, why didn't Ray Comfort quote this part of his citation? Well the answer is simple, he doesn't really want you to notice or pay close attention to this bit. He only wants you to pay attention to the bit he actually quoted to support his false gospel. He only wants ydych chi fod yn ddweud y cyffredd trwm gweithio. Fe chi fod yn ddweud y cyffreddyr yn adull, ac mae'r cyffreddor yn ddweud ddweud cyffreddor ac gan sefydlu gyda gyfarwodwch yn y ddweud, Rydyn ni'n ddweud sodd y cyffreddor? Mae'n meddwl y cwrwm yn edrych mewn cyffreddor, mae'r bydau sydd gweithio ei gennym eich cyfreddor. Ond y gall 플�oedd yn yw y diolch yn gallu ein gweithio. ddiddw i'w gilydd o'r ddwy ar-gwylwyd wedi'i ddweudio'r cyfle o'i gilydd. Dyna, dyw'r cyffredig sy'n mynd i'r grath, a'r cyffredig sy'n mynd i gilydd, ond ddim o'r golygu o'i gilydd ar-gwylwydd, dwi'n ddweudio'r cyffredig, a'r gyffredig sy'n mynd i'r gyffredig yma'r gyffredig yma. Yn ymgyrch i'r gyffredig sy'n mynd i'r grath, yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch, ymgyrch yn gweld y safb da, cyd-dynion i'r ddweud yma ac mae hynny'n gwybod i'w ddweud i'ch gweithio i'r ddweud i'r ddweud. Ydych chi'n gwybod gwlad yn ymhyfodol, ychydig ar y cwylwyr yn Cynllunau Rhyw Roedd, dwi'n gweithio'r ddweud i ddweud o'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud. Dyna, y ddweud o'r cyfrifiad yma yn ymhyfodol, ac eich E18 yn ymhyfodol, Po os gydweithio'r hyfio o'ch erioed. Mae'n iawn bod yna llawer o'u gwybod i gydych chi'n ei ddau, i'w gofyniaeth eich Llyrdoedd yn hyfio o gyntaf, mae'n maes eich gwybodaeth i'n cael eu bod yn y gallu hefyd. Felly, oherwydd yn y gallu hefyd, mae'n gofyniaeth eu gofyniaeth erioed. Os yw'r hyffordd sy'n gwybod yn ddiweddol, ma o'ch hanes ar gwaith gwybodaeth, mae nhw'n credu am y dyma o'r pasfyniaeth, fel yw Izzekylai 18, ynghylch yn bwysig o'r hyn o Gweithi Prydwyr Ynw'r ystod o'i cyflwymoedd ym Widwrach Cymru a bydd hynny'n dweud y fensiwyr yn fwrddwr i'r lleol.�� is next verse quoted is ax 319, where it says Repent ye, therefore, and be converted that your sins may be blotted out." And he insists on pointing out that it says sins, plural, not sin singular. Now, why is this relevant? So he's trying to say that well sins, plural, all sins is the context of repentence. So, it can't mean repent of unbelief or change your mind about Jesus because it's not one sin or the sin of unbelief, It's sins, plural, so all of them.  The doing of or the act of sins, plural, is not the context of repentance in this verse. The blotting out of sins is the context. The reason why it says sins, plural, is because when a person repents, aka they turn to Jesus, Jesus will blot out all of their sins, plural. An unlike Ray Comfort, my subscribing audience is populated with people that are actually saved and don't have sticks in their ears, so some of them at least, I've already seen my study on Acts 319, we already know what Peter said in this discourse. We know that Peter did not talk about a big long list of all these fleshly sins that the audience in Acts 3 needed to repent of. He never mentioned stealing, he never mentioned phonication, or drunkenness, or revelings, or adultery, or idolatry, or covetousness in Acts chapter 3. Peter did talk extensively about Jesus in the chapter. He said that God of our fathers has glorified Jesus first 13. He is the holy one in the just verse 14. He is the prince of life whom God has raised from the dead verse 15. His name through faith in his name has made the healed man strong verse 16. He should suffer so that the things showed by the mouth of the prophets should be fulfilled verse 18. If you want to say by any measure that the doing of sins is the context of repentance in Acts chapter 3, it was that Peter accused this crowd of being responsible for delivering Jesus up to Pilate and having him killed. This was a one-time sin, not a lifestyle of perpetual, unrepentant sinning. Now one of Ray Comfort's gimmicks for evangelism is to show people the law of Moses, particularly the Ten Commandments, and to show how people are guilty according to the Ten Commandments because they've sinned against the law, they've broken these commandments. But Peter didn't do that in Acts chapter 3. He didn't point to the law of Moses and enter a discourse about the evil sin of murder because it wasn't the act of murder as a defiance of the law of Moses that was the key important issue. Peter was concerning the crowd more with the person they did it to rather than the act itself. Their disobedience to the law was not the important issue. The identity of the Christ whom they rejected is the important issue. Why? Because his preaching in this passage is about Jesus, not about you, Ray Comfort. Now you have to wonder what kind of self-absorbed, self-obsessed, narcissistic I am takes a passage that's talking about Jesus, like Acts chapter 3, and makes it all about you or yourself. Oh, I know, I know, somebody who quotes his 18 as a self-affirmation because he's trying to establish his own righteousness. He then quoted verse 26 in Acts 3 and he capitalised where it says, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities, because again he wants to make the context about you turning from your sins.  Jesus and God the Father are doing the action in this verse. God sent his son Jesus. Who is doing the action in this verse? God is doing the action, not you. Not only is God the one who does the action, it's in the past tense. It already happened. This verse is not a commandment. It already happened. It's not telling you to do anything. Because Acts chapter 3 is a passage about Jesus, it's not about you, Ray Comfort. And then he quoted Luke 24-47 again trying to make the doing of sins the proof of what repentance means. But once again, it's not the doing of sins that's the context here. It's the forgiveness of sins that's the context of repentance. And Jesus isn't telling anybody to repent in this verse. He's telling the disciples that they're going to preach repentance. Which is exactly what happened in Acts chapter 3 when Peter was talking about Jesus, not about Ray Comfort. Now the next part of his comment really just put the cherry on top of the cake. It just shows you how these unsaved fools, they just make stuff up. They just make it up. So he asks what can only be described as a foolish question. If repentance is just a change of mind about Jesus. Why does the Bible speak of godly sorrow producing repentance? Now it's a foolish question because he's already presupposed that godly sorrow has something to do with turning from all sin and reforming yourself to be saved. And that passage does need its own exposition in the series. I've not yet had a chance to do a video on it. But let's assume that godly sorrow is about being sorry and full of remorse for your sins just for the sake of argument. Godly sorrow leads us to realise that we are sinners who need saving. Therefore we repent. We change our direction and believe on Christ. We believe in him by faith without works and get saved from our sins. So he forgives us of all sins. Plural. And this is irreversible, hence repentance to salvation, not to be repented of. Ungodly sorrow doesn't lead to that because there are lots of people who have sorrow over their sins, but they don't get saved. They don't place their faith in Christ to save them. Ray comfort is one of them, of course, but there are others like him. They're called Judas Iscariot. They're called Roman Catholics in the conventional booth. They're called Muslims praying five times a day. So therefore 2 Corinthians 70, if anything, is speaking against Ray comfort, not for him. And his question really is as stupid as asking, well, if the Bible says we're not saved by works, then why does it give us all these works to do it? Well, because that's got nothing to do with how to be saved, has it? You're not saved because you got down on your knees and cried about all your sins and made pig squeals, right? Now, if you are sorry for your sins, and I hope you are, well then that's all the more reason to trust in Christ for your salvation rather than your own self-reformation, which is what Ray comfort trusts in.  He makes a completely arbitrary connection between godly sorrow in Corinthians and anguish over sin in Psalm 38.  After all, Jesus said in Matthew 2018, Let us go up to Jerusalem. Jesus commanded you to go up to Jerusalem. The Bible says you are justified by faith. Therefore, that's what you have to do by faith to be saved. Obviously, that's retarded because nowhere in the Bible does it make a connection between faith and let us go up to Jerusalem. Obviously, we all agree that that is absurd. Well, when Paul says godly sorrow, that's referring to something that happened between him and the Corinthians. He doesn't refer back to David and his Psalms. As for David, the stories in Samuel indicate that David was already a believer when he was a very young man. Long before, he actually did all of the horrible sins that he then felt sorrowful over. So his godly sorrow, if you want to call it that, didn't lead to his salvation. It was a man who was already saved, who then did some very evil sins and got chastised for those sins, realised the consequences for those sins, felt sorrow over it, but even after his sorrow, it couldn't undo the consequences of those sins. And those consequences were very awful circumstances in his earthly life. Furthermore, we only know of some sins that David actually had sorrow over and confessed, such as the sin of Bathsheba. But there were plenty of sins that David actually never explicitly expressed sorrow or confession over, such as having multiple wives when the law specifically commands kings not to do this or killing women and children in certain battles where the law commands against this. But you won't get important contextual information like that from Ray Comfort because that's not really convenient for his false gospel, is it? Ray Comfort makes these arbitrary connections all the time. For example, he published a video defining repentance as confessing and forsaking all sin, using Proverbs 28.13. What's the biblical definition of repentance, Ray? Confessing and forsaking is sins, I think. You didn't even have to add the I think. Oh, I mean that's what Scripture says. Who covers us in sharp prose, but whoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy, so it's confessing and forsaking. But again, this is so ridiculously absurd. Proverbs 28.13 does not use the word repent. Neither did John the Baptist or anybody who ever preached repentance use this proverb to justify their message. Ray Comfort just plucked some random verses out of the Bible and uses them to make up his own dictionary. Matthew 21.32 and Acts 19.4 literally define John the Baptist's message of repentance as believing on the Christ he was preaching. It's very convenient that Ray Comfort does not use these verses to define what correct biblical repentance means, even though Jesus and Paul are practically spelling it out for him here. It then just comes up with a completely irrelevant non-point. It then says, listen to the Scriptures, address sinners telling them to be sorry for their sin. This is irrelevant. It's got nothing to do with the issue being discussed. Nobody is arguing that the Bible never says to have sorrow over sin, but what does that have to do with the question, sirs what must I do to be saved? Zilch, nada, zero. He is building an irrelevant strawman so he can tear it down. And then he makes this completely self-contradictory statement that completely undermines everything he is just being saying basically. That a Christian perpetually turns from sin. Well, hang on a minute, this makes zero sense. Since his message is to first repent of your sins and you must do this before you believe the Gospel. And repenting of sin means to confess and forsake all sin and you must do that before you can be saved. Well, if you have to turn from all of your sins to be saved, then it's completely ridiculous to say that a Christian perpetually turns from sin. Because if you confess and forsake all your sins before you got saved, you wouldn't keep sinning as a Christian. Well, repentance doesn't mean perfection. Save Christian perpetually.  Because they're not going to do that, are they? They're going to keep perpetually repenting. Doesn't make sense, but this is the double-talking politician speak that we can expect from these fools. And again, more made up nonsense without any biblical basis, he calls this perpetual turning from sin the fruit of repentance. Well, again, those of us that don't just make stuff up and actually prove what we believe, we already studied the fruits of repentance in video 5 and what John the Baptist actually said about this. The first work listed was to give a spare coat or meat to him that has none. It is not a sin to own two coats or portions of meat and he was not told to buy more coats and meats so as to increase his charity. This is not perpetual turning from sin. The recipient of the coat was not commanded to do anything to bring forth fruits. No action whatsoever was required on his part. This is not perpetual turning from sin. The publicans were only given one instruction, exact no more money than they were entitled to.  They were told not to do it. This is not perpetual turning from sin. The soldiers were likewise commanded to be content with their wages and to not do violence or recuse falsely. They were not told to keep doing it, but to be sorry and turn from it every time like a Catholic in a confessional booth. This is not perpetual turning from sin. So if Ray Comfort is just going to make stuff up, well that's his fruit of repentance.  He hasn't turned from all of his sins. He lies. He makes false claims perpetually all the time. He doesn't repent from that. His made up nonsense makes no sense whatsoever. It makes no rational sense. So that's the rotten fruit of his repentance. I'm going back to when he pretended to believe a fusion too. In the same sentence he quotes Mark 115, repent and believe. Now earlier in his comment he was quoting verses like Acts 319 to prove that repentance means turning from sin, not believing in Jesus simply because the word sins can be found in those verses. But then he doesn't grasp the irony of quoting Mark 115 where belief is the context of repentance. Sin isn't. In fact Jesus' message of repentance in this chapter and its parallel in Matthew 4, Jesus never actually talks about sin in that particular discourse on repentance. And we know that because we already studied it in the series in video number six. Heaven forbid we studied the Bible and do our homework properly. And then he engages in some weird appeal to authority fallacy by quoting A.W. Tozer as if that's supposed to prove something or mean something to me.  We care what the Bible says. The Bible said that John the Baptist's message of repentance is to believe on the Christ in Matthew 21 32 and Acts 19 4. The Bible said that when a man turns from sin that is his own righteousness in Ezekiel 18 22 and not to go about to establish our own righteousness in Romans 10 3. The Bible said repent and be baptized, repent for the remission of sin, repent and believe the gospel without saying of your sins after the word repent. This isn't the first time that Ray Comfort and his ministry have tried to justify the definition of repentance by quoting a bunch of other random people make fictional claims about repentance as well. In fact, they all do this. There is an article on his Living Waters Ministry website written by his colleague Mark Spence and it's titled How to Preach Repentance. And what struck me about this article is that a lot of page estate is dedicated to showing the swelling words of men who likewise want to be so poetic so they just make stuff up. Yet the vast majority of Bible verses are hidden in pop-ups. I just find that really bizarre and it just goes to show you that they're getting their definition of repentance by quoting other men incorrectly defining it instead of letting the Bible define it for us. And as you can imagine, this article contains so much word salad like repentance is the vomit of the soul. Repentance needs to be as loud as the sin was. This is pompous word salad. No normal down to earth person talks like this or even comprehends anything in those meaningless riddles. But these false prophets, they love their big swelling poetic words, don't they? They want to be seen of men with their incredible speech and their pomp. But they're just making up completely utter nonsense. Normal people don't understand or talk like this. He then ends his comment with more of his false assertions even though he doesn't directly target his comment at me. He is essentially suggesting that I have a shallow view of sin and that the kind of errors I am preaching could be filling the church with false converts. Well again, had he bothered to watch the documentary before he commented on it, he would have seen a 15 minute montage of just about everybody in Christendom under any denomination saying repent of your sins in a salvation context or it's ugly cousin surrender your life or surrender something. And it doesn't matter what denomination they come from with the Catholic, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, whatever and even non-Christian religions like Islam are defining repentance in this same way turning from your sins.  Lord, Lord, did we not turn from all of our sins? Did we not live the holy life that you commanded us to live? Did we not bring forth fruits worthy of repentance? And did we not prove our faith by doing many wonderful works in your name? Depart from me, I never knew you, you that work iniquity. Now there are some liberal churches that actually don't preach against sin. That's not an unreasonable claim to make. You know, it's fair to say that some divorced lesbian vicar probably isn't too keen on preaching about or against sin, is she? And obviously this is a big problem in the church whatever this mysterious universal entity is supposed to consist of. But what you will find with people like that is that they often actually don't believe that they are bad sinners who need saving from hell. They usually think that hell doesn't exist or everybody's going to heaven or hell's not really that bad or the only people who are going to heaven are Hitler and Stalin and we're all good people at the base of it all. And if there are really bad sins it's like the bankers and the politicians who do these economic sins and political sins not the ordinary guy in the street. So look, these people don't need to repent of their sins to be saved. They need to recognise that they're filthy, evil, wicked sinners and they need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ that they might be saved. That's the real issue with them. John Fford thinks that I'm the one preaching a false gospel and making false converts and I have the exact same feeling towards him. Let's compare our gospel messages with the Bible and let's see who is vindicated here. In John chapter 3 Jesus tells Nicodemus to believe for everlasting life. He doesn't tell Nicodemus to stop sinning for everlasting life. In John chapter 4 Jesus told the woman at the well to drink of the water I give for eternal life and the Samaritans later believe that Jesus is the Messiah. They didn't cry in sackcloth and ashes and beg for forgiveness. In John chapter 5 Jesus told the lame man to sin no more but never mentioned eternal life so it must not be a salvific commandment and we don't even know what the sin was it was so unimportant. When he talked about eternal life later to the Jews he told them to believe. He didn't tell them to turn from their sinful lifestyle he didn't make sin no more an eternal life requirement. In John chapter 6 Jesus extensively talked to believe for eternal life he didn't teach turn from sin and have eternal life. And for a bonus credit from this same chapter Ray Comfort says that Judas is proof that you can't just believe to be saved you have to repent of your sinful lifestyle as well. Apparently Judas is his favourite disciple for this very reason. It's as if he really wants to be saved by his own works. But John 6 groups the betray with those who believe not in the same verse verse 64 yet Judas repented of his sin in Matthew 27 3-5 so his story is the exact opposite of what Ray Comfort actually teaches. In John chapter 8 Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to sin no more but didn't mention eternal life so it must not be a salvific commandment. He later told the Pharisees that they would die in their sins because they didn't believe in verse 24. He didn't tell them that they would die in their sins because they believed the right things about him but wouldn't give up their sin. He didn't make sin no more an eternal life requirement. In John chapter 10 Jesus told the Jews to believe for eternal life and before Ray wants to try the my sheep follow me trick Jesus told them that they weren't his sheep because they didn't believe in verses 25-26 not because they had a sinful lifestyle. In John chapter 11 Jesus told Martha to believe for eternal life he didn't tell her to turn from a sinful lifestyle for eternal life. In John chapter 12 Jesus denounced the Jewish Greeks for not believing. He didn't denounce them for their sinful lifestyle. In Acts chapter 16 the prison keeper literally asked what must I do to be saved and Paul and Silas only told him to believe on Christ. They didn't tell him to stop working for the bad guys as a prison keeper for their sinful lifestyle. When John the Baptist preached repentance he never said repent of your sins. The people only confessed their sin but there is no evidence they actually turned from them and transformed their lives. We have no follow up about the converts. Matthew 21 32 and Acts 19 for prove that his message of repentance was to believe on the Christ. When Peter said repent and be baptized or repent and be converted in Acts chapter 2 and 3 he was preaching about Christ. The only sin mentioned was a one time sin and when you find Christ no perpetual sinful lifestyle was mentioned. Whereas Ray constantly evangelises using the law particularly the Ten Commandments Peter did not address the implications of murder as defined the Ten Commandments. Instead he addressed the person they did it to Christ the person they are supposed to believe. When Jesus preached repentance in Mark 115 and Matthew 4 12-17 he mentioned believing in Mark's account and he pointed to himself in scripture in Matthew's account. He never mentioned the sinful lifestyle of the audience he did not quote scripture about turning from sin. When Paul clearly explains the components of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15 he lists the following items receiving and believing it in verses 1 and 2. He doesn't say living it. The death of Christ in verse 3 the burial of Christ in verse 4 the resurrection of Christ in verse 4 the witnesses to the resurrection of Christ in verses 5-8. Notice how your self-reformed lifestyle did not make it into this list. When Jesus said I came to call sinners to repentance he is the one doing the calling. The sinners don't do the action in this verse. When Jesus said the joy over one sinner that repents the parables describe Jesus finding those who belong to him. The parables did not describe sinners changing their behaviour. Even the prodigal son only turned back to the father for his own selfish reasons. It was the father who had compassion on him nothing to do with the son's obedience. There is far more that I can say on that but I rest my case. This is no nonsense Christianity reminding you that nowhere in the Bible does it say repent of your sins to be saved.


Thank you for joining us today for a session on the application level optimizations that we've been working on with VGA and his team from American Airlines. First of all, I'm super excited to be here. I'm from the Bay Area, and I thought the traffic was bad in the Bay Area, but after going through Paris traffic this morning, I'm very excited to be here and that I've made it. Here, my name is Marcus Flewell. I lead Intel Developer Cloud, as well as Intel Cloud Services, which also includes Intel Granulate, an acquisition that we did a couple of years ago, and we'll talk about some of the work that we've done. A little bit about myself, I'm based in the Bay Area, used to work for NVIDIA, came over to Intel a couple of years ago, but NVIDIA had implemented NVIDIA's GPU Cloud infrastructure, and coming over to Intel, the focus has been on Intel Cloud Services. With me, first of all, let me introduce Vijay Premkumar, my good friend who we've been working with for many, many, many years. Vijay, do you want to introduce yourself? Thank you, Marcus. It's truly my pleasure to speaking with you on the Kubernetes journey we are in. It's something that is story to be told. It's a game changer for American Airlines, and we have been very successful with the journey. And to tell the story with Intel makes it even much better. You and your team at Intel with the development you're doing on the software space has been simply interesting, and more importantly, we are presently surprised. Thanks, Vijay. And thanks for joining us. Yeah, so why is Intel talking about application performance? A lot of you know us as the people who are building the chips and maybe build a little bit of firmware on top of that. But over the last few years, we've dramatically increased our investment in the software development, but then also into building various cloud solutions on top of that. Because we realize that at the end of the day, what matters is the value that you're getting out of our hardware, and whether that's coming from just the lower levels of the chip by adding more and more instructions, more offloads, or by adding more cores, or whether it's the cloud service, at the end of the day, what matters is how much application performance are you getting out of that. And there's a number of different areas that we're investing. One of the areas, at the end of the day, what we're trying to do is really solve your higher level business problem. And at the high level, some of the problems that we constantly hear from customers is that they are not being successful implementing their IT projects. And that's an area that, you know, by building out our interdevelopable cloud, we're trying to give you much earlier access to our hardware and our software so you can de-risk things and implement and find some of these issues earlier. The next area of investment is, of course, on the security side where we're seeing that data breaches are becoming much more prevalent and much more costly. And also with a lot of the work that's going on in AI, we expect that that threat vector is only going to get worse and there's going to be new threat vectors that are going to be coming in. And last but not least, a lot of people, a lot of you have quickly moved into the cloud. They're very, you're very happy about the speed at which you're moving, the elasticity, and all the other benefits of cloud. But at the same time, your CFO or your finance people are chasing you and they're upset because of the money that you're spending on cloud. So these are some of the areas that we're trying to address in addition to some of the low-level work that we're doing on the hardware and all the fabs and everything else that we're doing as a company. And so the first area is, as I mentioned, the Intel Developable Cloud. This is what I built up after coming in from Nvidia. And the idea is that we're building out the latest and greatest, not just CPUs, but increasingly a big focus on our accelerators. And we're making that available not just after the harder ships, but oftentimes six or 12 months even before the harder ships. So that means you can come into the developer cloud today, you get access to our latest, to the next generation CPUs, to our next generation accelerators. You get access to all the software stack that's running on top of it. You bring in your workloads, ISVs comes in, come in, they can test their workloads. We work also with cloud providers. They come in, in a lot of cases, they have pass and SaaS services that they offer. And they can test that six or 12 months prior to us actually shipping the hardware. And then even after we ship the hardware, oftentimes it takes another six or 12 months for the CSPs to pick up. So you get essentially a sneak preview into the future, and you can start optimizing much earlier than what you're used to. The other area of investment is around security, as I mentioned, with our Intel Trust Authority. And I will talk about that in a little bit. And then the third area that's what we're gonna be focused on today is really on the granulate on our autonomous performance optimization service. And this is where we brought in granulate a couple of years ago. Israeli based startup, Asaf, who's sitting here in the front, is actually the founder and will come up on stage later. And it's an area that is super critical for us because I think we can add a lot of value to our customers by providing these services. Essentially the highlight of the way I think about is that we as a company, we've been investing thousands of engineers are optimizing Kubernetes, they've been contributing to the Linux kernel, they're contributing to various PyTorch, TensorFlow, a lot of the open source frameworks. And with granulate, we have an outlet where we can make those optimizations available to our customers very, very quickly. Doesn't mean that we're gonna continue to make those optimizations available and continue to upstream those. But in addition to that, we can give those optimizations to our customers early on and help optimize their workloads years before some of these changes will actually be available as the next generation of an open source. So it's a tremendous, super excited about this area and it's super critical, I think, for a lot of our customers. So a little more detail on the developer cloud. What are we doing there before we jump into the details of granulate? It's, as I said, we've built it out, we're making tremendous investments, especially in the AI, in the days of AI. And as we're building out these accelerators, it's not just about one virtual machine and a few CPU cores. Of course, we make that available and then it helps our customers come in and test that out. But also when it comes to some of these AI workloads, if you want to run a large training job, you need to run this on a large training cluster. And that means we're building out some of these large training clusters with thousands of our accelerators and you can bring in your workloads and test those out early. We have, of course, a number of free options, but then you also have commercial option where you can come in and rent an entire cluster. And we also allow us then, if you're seeing what, if you like what you're seeing, it's not just only a sandbox, you can use it as a sandbox. But then we can also, we allow you to also come in and deploy your workloads and run your workloads there for production as well. With Intel Trust Authority, the main threat vector we're trying to address here is any kind of supply chain attacks. And what we do is we're allowing to be using our trusted domain extensions with a trusted execution environment. And the fundamental problem we're trying to solve is we want you to be able to run your workloads and we give you out of station, we give you the insurance that what you're running is the hardware that you think you're running on, as well as all the software components that are running on top of that, that these are the components that are really there. And that your supply chain, nobody has swapped out the hardware or somebody snuck in some malicious code that you don't expect and that, that is going to harm you. That's the problem we're trying to solve. And this is what we have available today. We already have a set of customers using it. And as we're building out more of our newer generation hardware, that means we can, we can provide out of station for all of the workloads that are running out there. So with that, let's just focus in now on what we're doing specifically with Grand Laid and specifically with, with American Airlines. Let me just start out by asking you, how has it been going working with Intel? It's been a fantastic journey and it's been about the partnership. I think it's about 25 plus years Intel and EA has been this partnership mode and mutually beneficial to both organizations. And when I say the partnership, the way it works is we are IT community which helps Intel's account team to tap into their extensive knowledge on the software hardware, help us overcome some of the business challenges we face. So the big benefit to our IT community to learn from the one of the best and help us overcome those challenges and deliver value to our application teams. Okay, and obviously, we're in the high-tech industry. We've had lots of ups and downs over the last decades. But being in the travel industry, it feels like we're in a cocoon here. What are the kind of problems that we've been able to address with you? Definitely Marcus, last 25 years has been extremely challenging. You've seen lots of ups and downs, especially in the travel industry and also in other industries specifically, right? Whether it's COVID or 9-11 or in a greater session. We had a great impact on any of those scenarios, right? So as a traditional company, we have investments across multiple data centers in our compute and we really rely on amazing partnership like Intel to optimize our application runtime, and we have been doing this for the last 20 plus years with Intel. And by optimizing an application runtime, we're able to deploy our work close in a more efficient way so we get the best value for the investment we've made in data center. Especially during the difficult years, those investments are placed off in a very nice way. What were some of the key activities that you're currently pursuing? Yeah, so Marcus, currently as we know in the last few years, the partnership heavily focused on two aspects. One, we continue to partner on the runtime optimization. Whether it's a data center applications or in a cloud native, we can do that. The second is about the cost optimization. So both cost optimization and the application has been the foundation, fundamental in all our aspects of relationship. Now, beyond that, what we are trying to now build relationship is on the next frontier. For example, we all know AI has a great role to play at American Airlines. That's been in the travel industry. And we see a tremendous opportunity in front of us to tap into the outcome what AI could do for us, either from a customer experience to enhance that, or to the operational excellence, the possibilities are endless. So we have been partnering with Intel's AI data scientist Dr. Mellon team. He has been visiting our office every frequent once in every couple of months to help onboard our engineers, AI engineers to the right. We are building the code and building the solid, the right business cases. So that partnership is in ongoing. And also you talked about IDC. It's pretty interesting concept. So while we look at building the right architecture principle that we are workload could be deployed in the most right way. So IDC provides an opportunity like company like a where we could test out the best in cash software and hardware with our workloads and benchmark it and prove it ready to deploy in our cloud CSP. So that enables us to the quicker, faster, easier way to bring in the solution to our business community. Great. Thanks, Vijay. Do you want to talk a bit more about like your architectural principles, like in terms of how you approached your cloud environment build out? So definitely before I talk through our cloud environment, I want to level set out the journey behind. So I mean, until two before I would say until, you know, four years ago, predominantly our workload has been in the data center. So what it meant is we have five plus data centers and you had complex big data solutions hosted there. While we continue our cloud journey, we start about three, four years ago. We continue to see the data silos, which means we are not able to process them very efficiently to serve our business community. That's when about two years ago, we started organizing called Cloud Engineering Platform under our leader, Rasika. She kept the focus on four important aspects. One, we set up the cloud center of excellence and the community of practice. Second, we define the cloud platform innovation as an independent unit. Third, we set up the great governance policies in the cloud and four, of course, you know, focusing on the cost organizations. Keeping those are the focal point, our organization and our team were able to go after the four major goals we were, you know, targeting. One, putting the CCOE framework and bringing the COP simply enabled and brought in the collaboration aspect and sharing the knowledge between our application team. Second, setting the cloud platform innovation opened up the engineering excellence mindset of our engineers so they could go after new and new age solution just like granulate while we were able to onboard it, right? Third, putting the governance principles helped us to have the resilient, reliable, secure policies set it from the, you know, from a core perspective. And four, of course, you know, we want to make sure every dollar we invest in our now CSP or data center, we get the most outcome out of it. So the focus areas and the goals clearly define helps us and our engineering team to get the value for our business community. So now I want to hear, speak about the two major areas where in the last two years, our growth has been. Like I mentioned previously, most of our work clothes has been in the data center for the big data. So last two years, there has been a tremendous growth into the cloud. Obviously, we all know big data solutions, data lakes are very expensive, extensive and complex, right? So while that kind of to grow, while our business were getting the outcome, we were failing challenges. The challenges came from the cost perspective. Now the second most, you know, fastest growing environment as the Kubernetes platform, what we built in. Kubernetes, we all, we know that, you know, it's complex and it provides a value and it could, you know, grow exponentially as well. So both big data, data lake solution and the Kubernetes, the two fastest are also the most expensive and putting cost pressure to us. So that was a challenge we were facing. So while we're facing those challenges and like we, you know, reached out to Intel's account team to see is there a solution we can go after? While we were working with Intel's account team to see if there a solution, we were probably looking at other industry, you know, optimize the solution that is in the market. So at that time, about two years ago, Intel suggested to look into a company called Granulate and a little bit of, you know, background story here, Granulate at that point was an independent company and Intel referred to us a more like a partnership mode knowing that Intel would not make any revenue out of it. And eventually Granulate was purchased by Intel which is a store, you know, after a few months later. So my team, Vamshishravan, Ishan and many more, you know, worked with Intel's, you know, Granulate team to test it out the Granulate software in our, you know, big data solution. And that testing along with the, you know, comparison with other solutions, did the whole nine yard and they choose the Granulate to be implemented in our big data to begin with. And we started the implementation in non-prod about, you know, 12, 14 months ago. Today it's under percent in our production and non-prod, about 1,300 plus clusters. We have been successfully implemented. And as you could see in the graph, we are about 37% fewer resources than what it was previously. And that results in about 23% cost savings in our data lake solution. It's been a fantastic journey on that. So while we achieved that in the data lake and the big data solution, our journey continued with the Granulate on our Kubernetes environment. So team last few months have been benchmarking Kubernetes workloads and comparing Granulate with other optimized solutions in the market. And the non-prod testing so far has been very interesting and the outcome has been very satisfying to American Airlines. Just curious, BJ, how did you pick Granulate versus other solutions? So as I said, cost is important. That was the starting point. We were facing extremely high cost pressures. So the reason we went after the market to look for solution was the solving the cost problem. While like Granulate, many companies provided that cost solutions, the unexpected or the additional benefit what we got from Granulate is the runtime optimization and performance improvement, which was unexpected for us. And second, the benchmarking we did with other solution did not provide the same outcome. For us, it's, going after cost was one thing, but getting two additional benefits was a huge win for us. One other question here, a lot of customers are like great, you're getting all these performance enhancements, but how much effort is it to get there and how operationally does it fit into my operations environment? Like what's the pain I have to go through in order to get all these optimizations? Yeah, so good question, Marcus. Any of this requires some commitment from the engineering team for sure. So in our case, our engineering team was committed to partner with the Granulate team. And from a Granulate perspective, it takes about two weeks to discover, to provide an outcome, seeing what is the potential saviour that can come. So it was easy plug and play and the portal was very easy to navigate and we were able to get the data. And then it's up to us at that point, based on the outcome what we see in the portal, we choose to optimize. That's when does the optimization pose outcome? So the implementation was pretty straightforward and easy to partner with to get it going. In addition to your data lake, I think you've done a lot of other optimizations as well with Kubernetes, I believe. Yes, correct. So it started the Kubernetes journey on the non-prod and again, just to put some background on the Kubernetes, right? As I mentioned previously, it's our second fast-growing environment in the Dominican Airlines. And we want to ensure that we remain focused on the three major principles that we committed to our application or our leadership. One, of course, you want to provide the 99.99% SLA to our application community. Third, the growth, what you're saying, is nothing. This year, we're project to go three X more. That means tremendous amount of application, leaning on to our shared cluster to onboard into that. And third, we want to continue to provide under percent in our sales service. That means ease for the application team to deploy their workloads and get the outcome is in our shared cluster. Keeping this as a priority and a focus area, we ensure that any tooling we bring in doesn't compromise on the quality and the objective of what we laid out. So just to give a landscape of our Kubernetes tech stack, like many of you know, it's complex and unique and very special to you all. In that case, also very special. RNG has spent years to build this, right? We have primarily Azure AKS shop on the Kubernetes and we use the Argo CD for the CI CD pipeline. You have the Kuma service mesh. We use a Rancher control plane. And we also the home ground UI, which we call Runway, which is the self service portal. And we also use the, you know, the custom manner controllers to integrate across the solution. While all this in there and many more, we are able to plug in the intelligent solution without disrupting the ecosystem. Again, our objective is cost savings is one thing, but not at the cost of SLA, not at the cost of delaying our application team to self service or impacting our outcome, what we committed to the application team. So given all those things, GranLit was able to plug in without any disturbance to our ecosystem, which was our huge expectation from the team. And now in the last, I would say, few months, installing the GranLit agent in our non-prod Kubernetes cluster, this is the outcome we have seen. We have seen about 40 to 40% cost savings. And the best part is the additional benefits, right? We're getting a 30% in a job time reduction and 20% throughput increase. And that's the second and the third on the additional benefits, which we never expected from other solutions. We're not getting it, right? And the most importantly, we could get all those things with zero code change. Isn't it a beautiful thing? It is, signing up. Yeah, and just to add to this, I mean, we also were using GranLit, of course, extensively inside of Intel, and we're seeing very, very similar results both on our data lake environment as well as on our Kubernetes environment. And again, as I mentioned at the beginning, and of course, there's a lot of other customers that are seeing similar kind of results. So it's not like VJ is a complete outlier and that's why it's here, but this is a very typical improvement that we're seeing. And again, the thing to note here, this is not like, these are customers have not done any optimizations at all, and they're just picking up the low-hanging fruits here. These are additional optimizations that they're getting after they've already applied a lot of the other tools, right? Because it's a different dimension, right? When you think about this, CloudWatch and a lot of other tools that allow you to have low-hanging, you know, address low-hanging fruits, like optimizing instance types within your CSP or doing other kind of, you know, detecting idle workloads. What we're doing here, it's really about minimizing the footprint of your application. And that's why, I mean, it's very non-intuitive to say, I'm gonna get more performance, but I have to spend less money on it. How is that possible? Most of the time, it's the opposite. I'm gonna add more resources. I'm gonna add more overhead and more headroom. And that's what's guaranteeing my application performance. Here, it's the opposite. It's like, you know, we're shrinking things down. We're shrinking down the footprint, making it fundamentally more efficient. And that means, yes, you're getting more performance, but it also means that you're spending less money on it. And I think that's really something that I think is really a very compelling message. And this is something, again, as I mentioned in the beginning, this is the beginning of the journey. It's only been two years since a Southland team came to us and Granite came to us. Going forward, a lot of the work that we're doing across all these different areas, there's thousands of engineers that we have optimizing different parts of the stack. And a lot of these optimizations are gonna be expressed early through Granite. And so we expected over time that some of these optimizations that we can do through Granite will actually increase in the magnitude. Yeah, so just to summarize what we're able to address, Vichar talked about the data lake that he's been able to optimize.  And then of course, as Vichar said, you know, this is just like with Intel, you know, oftentimes there's security views and other things, but typically those improvements, we will show up very, very quickly and your next cloud build can already reflect that. The second area as Vichar mentioned was Kubernetes. That's another key area of focus. And that's again, where we as Intel, we have a lot of investment, a lot of optimizations that we're doing on the Kubernetes side that going forward will be available through Granite. And then third is just those runtime optimizations. This means, you know, your Java workloads, it could be a custom workload. This is not just an off the shelf third party hardware, a software that you're buying, but this is also for your own custom workloads that we can also optimize here with Granite. And we're continuing to invest in that as well. Yeah, so in terms of some of the things we're doing here, one is again, you know, with Kubernetes, it's really, you know, optimizing the footprint there and eliminating any kind of waste. So in this particular example, you know, this is a customer and they were running like 5,000 cores initially. There were a lot of extra, a lot of extra compute power essentially dedicated just for the overhead. And with Granite, we're able to shrink it down significantly without impacting the SLA. And then the runtime optimization, meaning we can optimize everything from the application layer through Kubernetes. These things are all the way down into the infrastructure layer. Those things are all additive and that's where we get the additional optimizations. In addition to the optimizations, the other thing of course that's important is the observability. People need to understand what's going on in their environment. There's a production workload, super critical. Vijay, do you wanna talk about that a little bit and how you're leveraging Granite for that? Definitely. So like the screen says that actually it's the outcome output from our own, you know, implementation. So providing the full customization and visibility of clusters, as a customer, I could pick and choose what we want to enable and what kind of configuration we need. So empowering ourselves to do, you know, the outcome what we expected with a partnership was a beautiful thing. Okay, thanks Vijay. Okay. And then last and the least, it's, you know, again, efficiency is really making sure that the SLAs are being met. And a lot of cases where we're seeing is that even though we're driving the efficiency and we're squeezing out costs, the SLAs typically actually end up getting better and be able to better meet them than prior to applying Granite. Yeah, so before we jump into Q and A here, just a quick summary in terms of how Intel, what we're doing as a company. As I mentioned earlier, through the developer cloud, we are making, providing that early access to our hardware and our software. And we're doing this not just for our CPUs, but we're doing this across the different product lines including our accelerators that you can go in and test out. And the same thing, you know, not just the hardware, but also all the software components that you can test drive early on and not just you as an end customer, but also the OS vendors will come in, hypervisor folks, they can come in and they can use things at the bare middle layer. We have other people that, you know, they want to be a middle system. We have folks that would just want a virtual machine. And then we have a managed Kubernetes as well. And then with Converge, we also have an envelope solution that you can also test drive. So you can come in at the different layers of the stack. You can run it across different layers of the different types of hardware. Right now we have predominantly, a developer cloud is predominantly located in North America. We're in the process of now expanding also into Asia and into Europe. So we expect to do that over the next, over the next throughout this year. With Intel Trust Authority, we're addressing some critical threat vectors around the security. And then of course with Grand Laid, we're addressing the performance challenges. So with that, before we open up for Q and A, maybe just the last question for Veeche, what is next for you in this journey with us? The journey will continue and continue. So we got our outcome from the, like we spoke about the big data and Kubernetes, it's, you know, almost done. Next, we're going to continue this engagement on our, you know, data center workloads. We have, you know, several thousand VMs in a data center. We want a partner to get that also optimized. And then we also workloads in the, in the CSP in the cloud provider, which is non, you know, Databricks related. We want to optimize that as well. While all this is going on, we're going to tap into the IDC to get the, you know, the architectural principles, you know, rightly done. That way we could be from day zero, get the most outcome for us, you know, benefits. But I can you to challenge markers and our staff and team to bring in the A plus team to LPA to get the outcome, what we decide. We truly appreciate the partnership. Thank you, Marcus, the staff and team. Appreciate it. Thank you, Vijay. Thank you. All right. We can just ask the team to come up here. So we'd like to invite a soft Vamshi, Shravan and Nishan. So please. Yeah, the way we do things is that we get all the easy questions, the top questions go to these guys. So just to be clear with that. Any questions? I'll ask Vijay a question. So we work for really large companies. How do you get the right support, the right confirmations to work with so many startups like you do? Thank you, Asaf. And just to put some perspective, right? Like I talked about the vision, the strategy, our leadership are laid out. So we clearly marked ourselves as a cloud platform innovation as an independent unit. So I was fortunate to lead that, that unit that gave me and my team the authority to go after solutions that never possible before American Airlines and a company like traditional American Airlines, right? So that enabled me to go after startups like, you know, in this case, granulate with, in a partnership with Intel and many more. And just to put some perspective, we have been dealing with 40 plus different startups and we onboarded about eight of them in production. And thanks to my partner Vamshi, he has been an architect along with this journey with me, along with Shravan and Nishan and many more, right? So it's a leadership vision to have your market a dedicated independent unit and that enabled me to go after those. Thank you, thank you. Hi there. So the granulate platform sounds really good, but what's it got missing at the moment that you would like it, like to see it have going forward? So I think that's for the AA, please. Yeah, I'm sorry we didn't catch that. Do you mind repeating that? Yeah, sure. Granulate platform today sounds very good, useful for American Airlines, but what would you like to see it have in terms of capabilities going forwards that you think that it may have missing? Which any enhancements that you're looking for? I would say, like I mentioned, our team has went through extensive analysis, several platforms, several tools in the market. In fact, we are very popular in the startup community and granulate provided more than what we expected. If you ask me what else, I don't have an answer at this point, but knowing me, Asaf knows me very well and so is Marcus, I continue to challenge them. They got used to our VR operations. They always come with solution before asked questions. I think Shravan, you wanna add something here? I think since few weeks we are working with granulate extensively. So they are able to incorporate the labels were not easily available, but they were able to add those as part of so that we could select the workload so that the granulate optimization can be worked on on specific workloads within all the Kubernetes clusters. And we can isolate what workloads we need to optimize and what not. And just to add on that note that Shravan mentioned, I joined the team like way later, but these are the pioneers in working with them, it's been wonderful. So with granulate, basically the best part that so far I've been working with the team closely implementing this in our non-prod at least, the best thing about granulate is that it doesn't bother any existing, like running workloads and services. And as Marcus mentioned, it basically shakes and without hurting our SLA. That's the most important thing for us. And then it's so easy, the implementation is so easy and the results are so fast that you can actually, we just projected, right? And then that's the best, I would say optimization tool so far we have seen. Thank you. Just recommend trying out yourself. Can you guys hear me okay? Yes. Excellent. Question bit to one side. I noticed we've got some similarities with the way we kind of our organizational goals. Can you describe briefly how you, what your organizational structure is for your cloud teams, for your infrastructure teams, what that looks like and what challenges you have and how you deal with them? Yeah. So it's a very good question, especially a traditional organization like us where we continue to have workloads in data center and aspiration to ramp up in the cloud. It's a challenge. And there is no one size fits all or a proper size, we could define it. But again, I'll go back to this slide where I spoke about the exact challenge what the question is about. We took a very difficult and, you know, art stand, we are going to, you know, carve out a clear focus areas, what we want to do in the cloud while respecting the application workloads in data center. Like we talked about setting up the cloud center of excellence and community of practice. There's a huge benefit setting it up. It could be a small team, but by setting it up, you're basically empowering, enabling a larger engineering community across your organization. Then very clear, we're not going to solve all the problems that we may have, but we're going after the most important, the cost. Like I mentioned, let's go out to the cost aspect first. If you solve the cost, then we get the money in, we can do more things. In our case, we solve the cost in many complex areas, like we had a choice. We could have taken the most easy, simple application to implement granulate, but we took a different stance. We went off the most complex, most used, most difficult, big data solutions, right? We committed to that and that helped us. And now we're going after the second most complex. Generally, it would be the reverse. You go out to the most simple things. So the intention, the vision, the strategy from our leadership to our engineering folks has been single-focused to go after the most complex problem. So the size of the team could vary by the intention and the vision is more important. I would like to add to it, so because there are products, because every under, what the cloud in engineering platform itself has every product as a platform. So we have platform as a product and the innovation that was started under Vijay, you can see as innovation leader. For every product, innovate like a startup scale, like an enterprise. So that's the logo that he has been setting into the products for all the teams, cloud teams. And there are architectural teams, which we are like as part of architecture that spans across. And the cloud community of practice is a virtual that goes across the cloud teams and the products. So that's how the structure has been laid out if that's a question that... Yeah, that's great. Thanks.


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That's all good. That's perfect. Okay, so again welcome to the fifth community call. And the agenda for today is to say hello to the new communities that are working with us since April. And there are some technical news, so some new features, some new functionalities that I would like you to know and to be aware of. And as Julia said, we will give some insights on what's going on now that the OpenAir Nexus project, which basically funded your gateway, what we can do for the sustainability of your gaiters. And clearly we will have a session of questions and answers, but if you have any questions while I'm speaking, you can raise your hand and speak up. So welcome to the new communities. So here I hope I didn't forget anyone, but we have 12 new communities since April 2023. And this is a very, a very good number and I will show you afterwards also the diversity that characterize these communities. Because they work on different aspects of science and research. So this is what we had in December 2021. So this is a, let's say a cluster in a categorization of gateways. And we have some whose content is selected because of affiliations and repositories like university alliances or research infrastructures. Yes, we also have thematic gateways. So say that the content is selected based on the topic on the subjects. So from energy research to transport or social science and humanities, digital humanities, and so there are many as you can see. But now, now we are much more. So we, we wrote a number, both from the point of view of institutional, let's say, gateways, thanks to many, many university alliances that decided to use our connect service. So the thematic gateways, we wrote a lot. So I'm really happy that the open air connect service can really help different communities with different needs, and I'm very happy to share with you this, this overview. If you think about the topics, the subjects that the gateways cover. We started in December 2021 with three gateways in social science and humanities and digital humanities. We have some gateways on marine science, biomedical, food and agriculture, research and innovation and energy and transport. But now, really think that we are a good growth in many, I mean, in all of the categories, except from the culture was our collaboration with a gene for ended. So we are not covered from that point of view. But on the other hand, the growth in research and innovation and also also social science humanities and digital humanities is really is really impressive. So, some highlights on technical news. So some new functionalities that we introduced since April this year. First of all, how to stay up to date. We did some work in order to organize a little bit the technical activities and the release plans of the update of the open air connect gateways. So on Trello, you can find a new Trello board with the where we highlight the functionalities that are launched but also what we are working on and which are the activities that we plan in the next period. And also in the open air catalogue, if you enter the section, let's say of open air connect, you can see the full change lock. So if we resolve bugs, if we have new functionalities, if we do something at the release and we find the details in the change lock. So what's new since April. So first of all, we created new pages that you can enable or disable. And with these pages you can highlight the research products that are in your gateway that are related to fields of science and to sustainable development goals. And you can find these pages in the about menu, if they are enabled. And if you do not see them, but you want to see them, yeah, then you can go to the administration dashboard, look for the pages and enable them. We have also pages for FAQ and roadmap related to your gateway. So this was requested by one of the communities but we thought that was really relevant for all of you if you want to add these pages in your gateway.  And finally, we made a new page for developers where you can find documentation about how to use the metadata of research products in your gateway. So you can find links to the documentation of the open air APIs, and also to the community dump that I would really say the snapshot of metadata records of your vehicle. We also had a redesign of the search and landing pages. So you probably already noticed that now there is a better grouping of different versions and now it's shown at the top of a research product and nothing more on the on the right. Also, the access to the different actions that you can do on a research product. Now, it's easier to find so you have at hand the possibility to link the product to other research products to projects and to the communities. And then, of course, the link to share it on the social side to get the citations and to clean the product on our kid. Another improvement was the introduction of of the some tabs here so that now you can scroll decide to scroll down or just click on the tabs to automatically scroll to the section that that you want. And to give more visibility to the impact metrics and usage statistics, we also added at the top of the page for each project product. And if you click on one item, you can see the details and the provenance of this information. From the management point of view, you can now find some more options in order to thank you. The authorization on the gateways so you can decide who can create links in your community so who can use the link functionality. And you can also select if your gateway is open in the sense that anyone can join so anyone can subscribe to the gateway. Or if you will have to invite the people that for this for the subscription to the gateway. And in this way you can really have more power to decide, for example, that only members so only subscribed people can link products to your gateway. Another news from the administration dashboard is the introduction of new selection criteria for your research product. So we included selection criteria for fields of science and sustainable development goals. So here you see an example of from the Knomad Institute gateway. Knomad Institute works on several aspects all related to sustainable development goals. So the manager would like to have everything that has an impact on a sustainable sustainable development goal in the gateway so you select that basically all of them, but you can also pick only one. And you can also make sense in your use case. And the other criteria are the advanced criteria. So basically it's a way to combine filters together. So in this example from the gateway of North American studies, for example, we, we have an advanced criteria that includes everything that has Mexico in the subject or United States or Canada. Sorry, and they are in and so it has Mexico, United States, Canada in the subjects, and it has a fields of science that starts with zero zero five, which is the code for social science and humanities. And another big change that we implemented is that we reimplemented the weekend technology that stores the community configuration. So I'm not going into the details of that, but several requirements coming from different communities really needed this change in the back end. And the effect that you can already see now is that now basically we can include much more projects and data sources in the configuration of a gateway. And also this enabled us to implement a very nice feature for national gateways like the one we have for the Netherlands. So that every time we update the list of projects from NWO, which is the national funder from the Netherlands, then the configuration of the Netherlands portal is updated. So that the managers do not need to go to the to the administration dashboard and select manually all the projects from NWO. And another change in the back end was that we improved how the link functionality works. So now you should have less difficulties in performing bulk linking of products to your communities. So we have a plan for the next month. So the first changes that you will see is that you will have new filters that you can use to select research products for your community publisher and publication year. And also because we had so many communities that are university alliances with projects funded by the Erasmus Plus funding program, then we plan to include also this funding stream into open air. While for now we have only FP7, H2020 and Horizon Europe, so Erasmus Plus will be a new funding stream joining the open air graph. And then starting from March next year you will have more power to configure your homepage. And because now you can only basically work on the description in the homepage, but in March you will be able to select much more element and configure much more element and also include links to, for example, if you have guides on open science, if you have any material that you would like to share with your community, you will find a place and a way to add this information directly in the homepage. You will be able to select project grants that are relevant for your community in bulk, so not one by one, which is a tedious work when you have a lot of them, but you will be able to select all the project grants that you want. And another important feature will be the possibility to promote community repositories in deposit. Because now what we have in the deposit page of the gateways is a search among the content providers, data sources that are available in the open air graph. But we understand that as a community, you offer repositories as a service to your researchers. So we believe that those should have a prominent place in the gateway because using the community repositories is really an asset to improve the practices of open science within your community. Another change that regards the content of your gateway is that we will automatically include the patterns that are related to the publications of your community. Because open air has a full text mining algorithms that looks into the full text of open access publications and identify links to patterns. And also when available, the text of the patterns is analyzed in order to find links in the publications. So we have these links, but for some technical reason not going to explain the patterns cannot really enter in your gateway now. So we will make sure that they enter because they are really relevant also for an impact monitoring point of view. Because patterns have an impact on the innovation. And this relates to the next point that is in the slide. So you will find those statistics on open science aspects. Let's say that for now you have some sort of statistics by exploiting the filters of a search result page. But in the future we will be able to embed in the gateway charts about open science aspects. So open access versus closed access or gold or green votes that are used in order to publish the research products and so on. And also, we will extend the metadata snapshots so the metadata records that are available on Zenodo for you to analyze or to build additional services on top of the data that we gather. And then they will be extended so that they include also other entities of the opener graph that are related to your product because now you cannot find the metadata about the research products. So publications, data sets, software and other types of research products. But several communities asked whether it's possible to have also for example the organizations that are. Referred by these products and we believe that this is very reasonable and useful so we will do it by March 2024. So in the homepage of connect so connect dot connect dot you, you can find the link to the roadmap where you will see all other also minor changes that you can expect in the next year. Are there any questions on the technical news or features. Okay, so I think that we can go to the next part. We can go to the next part of the presentation. And I invite Julia to to start this topic, which is about your committee after open our nexus. Thank you, let's see. I'm stopping. Okay, I'm stopping you. Okay, I can share now. Okay. Okay, I will give you an overview. I will be faster but these lights are a lot so if something is not clear, feel free to stop me. Okay, so most of you have the confusion of what is open air in the sense that we start open air as a project, but then in 2018 we became a legal entity. It means that to ready the organization that at the beginning was a project became something that is much more sustainable. So open air born with the development of open science in Europe, and in particular in relationship with the European funding program, and the needs to push forward open science from the policy to the practice of the research. Open science is not any more something a visionary, but it's here to stay. It's a multi-faceted but open science as a cost, and we need the long term investments. So, the institutional approach is crucial, and it requires tools, incentives, assessment to become a win-win solution for everybody. We put putting research in the middle of the oligree, but we need also to have much more actors in the research ecosystem. So we are passing from a close and traditional scholarly communication into an open ecosystem. This transition is to support diversity, equity and inclusion, but the ownership is passing to other organizations and cannot be without any cost. So just to give you an idea of what is open air now. Open air is an a profit organization, and this is stay as it is. We will not change our business model. It's a scholarly communication infrastructures that brings together human capital and advanced computer and technology services. It's a network composed by a national open access desk. We have our headquarter in Greece, but we have a virtual office staff members, 50 members from 34 countries. Open air has the issue of strategy from 2023 and 25, so it's an organization as other European organization, representing infrastructures in Europe for scholarly communication. We have our action lines that are based on services, training and policy. We have these three pillars of action. And here are the services focus area that are covering most of the life cycle. We are operating at the European and global scale. And in particular, since our organization start for the European Commission, most of our services are serving the European institutions and in particular we support the European open science cloud. We have physical infrastructure and this is just to let you understand the size of open air. The funding are coming from a different stream. We have the European Commission framework programs that is supporting some services. We have other funders that are promoting and supporting our initiatives and services. We are going to start membership fees from 2024. The services have some procurement, some direct assignment, and we are going to start also the subscription starting from the next year. There are also funding directly to support the training activities that we have. As you can see, our staff is, we have a virtual office, but we have also staff from institutions that you can see listed here. So what is happening with the services? Also in EOSC, there has been a working group on sustainability because all these services that are serving EOSC cannot be all for free. They cannot be covered all by the European Commission. And in any case, the project has an end. So it's not always clear how to guarantee the sustainability of the project. This is why we are changing our financial and sustainability plan. This is also part of the strategic plan for Horizon Europe to make more partnership and to have a clear life cycle approach that it's not including just this kind of project. Moreover, our main focus is to promote, as we say, as you could see in the previous slide, the vision and mission to support open science in Europe. These services will be always for free for researchers, but we have some pricing strategy with a fee for the services that are on demand and that are owned by you. And this is the case of Connect, because we provide the infrastructure, but you are the owner of your gateway. So how did we do this financial plan? So we are aligning to what is the open-air as a legal entity, so we have no profit on the services, but we need to cover the expenses that are related to the infrastructure itself. And also to make all this service scalable. As you can see in the slides from Alessia, the number of the gateways increased a lot. And we have also to offer to you competitive services, so something that it's in continuous development and it's co-adapted by what are your requests for making the service better. This is why also we have these community calls. We need also to guarantee that the standards are aligned to the policy and to the community needs. That this service like Open-Air Connect is interoperable with the other open science ecosystem and the research infrastructures and other systems, for instance in IOSC. We need to assure that we can also support and give training for you and for your users. And we assure the transparency and the alliance and the research excellence. I mean here is to adopt and to promote open science in Europe at any kind of level to align with the policy that are promoted at your national level for the research assessment. In fact, most of you have also statistical dashboard like the Open-Air Monitor. We need also to make some efforts of the legal level in the terms and conditions of the use of the services. We must guarantee the design, the flexibility of the Open-Air services and we will reward and support the Open-Air AMCA members. So if your institution is not yet in Open-Air and you would like to join as members to access to some discount, please let us know. What become Open-Air means is also that you have a say in the development and the solution that we have also at the strategic level. We are encouraging innovation, we comply with the policy and financial standards and we would like to guarantee the services sustainability. So before we receive the grants of the European Commission that were enough to cover the new gateways in a limited scope and time. With the subscription fee, we are establishing long term relationship with you. You are fully owner of the services and we are just here to support the technical level and at the computer level and at the human level what the gateways is offering also behind the scenes. So Open-Air Connect, as you say, as you know it's a personalized research gateway. You will have a subscription package each year and you have your own personalized gateway and your intellectual property right will be established via some contracts. So now I would like to thank you and to pass to Alessia for what exactly will be the stream for the Open-Air services. Thank you Julia, thank you Julia because this context was really important for everyone to know that Open-Air is here to stay and clearly the more support we get from the members and from the collaborators the better it is. So with everything that you said in mind, we try to define the plans, the packages for Open-Air Connect and basically because you as communities you are so diverse, one plan did not fit all of you. And because we believe in equity, then one plan does not fit all of you. And because we don't want to exclude anything because inclusiveness is something that we care about, then one plan was not enough. So the proposal we are working at, so this is not at the final stage, but I have to say that well, happy enough with them. There are four plans that will be available and the idea was to try to cover the different use cases that we see while working with you. So we have a starter plan that, okay, here I have some specificities for each plan. So the starter plan, which is suggested for thematic research projects or let's say like digital humanities, cultural heritage gateway or the gateways that we created for the Neania's project. But also Algo France, which is a research infrastructure. So what you will get is a gateway as you have now with statistics on open science aspects and we will also cover for sure also the training. So specific training for gateway managers and also the access to the open platform, which includes training some different aspects of open science and it will be the materials available there will increase over time. Then we have the extended plan, the extended plan, we suggest this plan for the university alliances or research networks that are in need of a little bit more statistics, because maybe you want to keep track of also other aspects, not only open science but also impact. And the other difference is that we'll give the possibility to these communities to define custom pages. So the possibility to add new pages to the gateway. And since we think this is a good plan for university alliances, then we will also provide clearly the training on open air guidelines because in most of the cases, not all the repositories of the universities of the Alliance were already open air compliant. So their content was not already in the open air graph. So we think it's good to support them at becoming compliant with the open air guidelines. Then we have the advanced plan, which is suggested for research infrastructures that need a custom text and data mining algorithm. And this is the case, for example, for Iperion, for Daria or for edit. And so for digital tools in earth. Clearly, if you are searching for structures, but you know that the metadata available in the open air graph is is good enough and can be used to pick all your research products, then you can go also to the starter or extended plan, but if instead we have to go through the full text of the publications in order to find weird acknowledgement or with references to the services of our research infrastructure, then the advanced plan is the one that will work for you. And finally, the national and regional plan. We only have one example for now, which is the Netherlands research portal. And the idea is to create a gateways that contains all the research products of a country or a region. And in addition to extend the statistics custom pages and and trainings, you will also have direct access to open arcs, which is the opener service that allows to create information about organizations and basically create bridges between different persistent identifiers that exist. For organization. So, is the raw identifier, founder FID and so on. We will also support the integration of project grants. Let's say managed by national or regional funding initiatives. And this is true. This is to give better overview and better coverage of everything that is happening at the national or regional level. And more or less the overview in the slides that we will show you can also find some more details in the next slide about all the different functionalities that we believe are, we believe are useful. And I grouped by typology so you will find in this slide for example, the functionalities that you will have about the content and search. So let's say the coverage somehow. And then data mining. So I would like to stress that regardless the plan, you will all benefit from all the opener mining algorithms, and also from the mining algorithms of say noble, which works for the mining of the sustainable development goals and science. Regarding the gateway customization clearly the advanced and original plans have something more so they will have more power on the on the branding and then on the customization of of the field and also for the construction of of new pages. We are always available to integrate community services or to include additional custom functionalities. And we can do this in several ways. For example, some of the functionalities that some communities asked already planned in the context of other European Commission project. So if you have a functionality that you would like to see your gateway. Let us know because it could be the case that we already planned in another context, or maybe we plan something similar and we can adapt also for your use case. So we will have to discuss some case by case basis and try to understand what we what we can do for you and probably also for the other communities. Also for the metadata snapshots for the advanced and national regional plans, we can arrange a more frequent release and the snapshots anyway, they will be published publicly on Zenodo with CC bar license. And Zenodo, as you know, is the is a repository managed by managed by CERN, which is one of the members. Training and support, not much to add here. But for the deployment. Yes, I would like to stress that the community is the owner of the gateway, but indeed all the technical activities. The provision of virtual machines, the IT security, the disaster recovery backups, and everything is provided by the open air member from Poland, ICM. So everything runs on ICM premises in Poland, so in Europe. And you will not have to think about where to create your own virtual machine, you don't have to care about this, this is something that open air needs to care about. Okay. Thanks, Alessia. So now we are giving you the space to ask questions or feelings or ideas. So you can raise your hands and feel free to ask. I know that this was a lot of information, only one. So for sure what we can actually ask maybe that's the beginning of the next year we will anyway contact all the community managers in order to agree with them, which is the best option for the sustainability of their gateway. And we will have one to one conversation in order to find the best solution. Eugenio. Yeah, I try to break the ice. Well, first question is about what, since we are using this open air connect tool, maybe we can face some, well, I would not call them issue but, well, things to be sorted out. So I wonder if you plan to have a sort of ticketing system to ask to the developer to sort out the things or discuss about possible solution. We already have the help desk that can be used. The app desk is not, let's say, a direct contact between you and the developers, but I mean, tickets reach me and Julia. And then we forward one needed the request to the developers. So Julia, I see you wrote the email, but is there also a web system they can use or it's just via email. They can use the app desk, they can go to the open air and search for support or contact us and they should be able to find us. And I think that also in the web page of their own, their gateway should be a button to ask for feedback. Okay, if we need to, well, I can make an example just to be, to make the things easier. We set in the look and feel of the landing page and either with an image. And once we go to the, how can I call it the second page when you go to the page where you have the filters on the left hand side. The header disappear and what I have now is a color of the header. So I wonder if I can, if I, I can ask for this modification or for this improvement of the look and feel customization. Because I was expecting to have the same picture even in the other pages, not only in the landing page. I understand what you mean I think we already talked about this. And what the developers said that this was done on purpose, so to have the background image only in the homepage, and not in the other pages. Let's say a decision to for a user experience choice, why, because depending on the type of background image that is selected, the other elements in that part of the graphical user interface may not be as visible as they should. So they prefer to remove it for the other pages. What I can do is to talk again with them to see because I understand that is counterintuitive. Because if I select an image, I would expect to see them in all pages. Okay. Any other questions, anything that you are finding out in this period with the new developments, or anything you like most, or any topic that you would like us to touch for the next community call. Well, if I can say again, maybe, well, actually I did not do any registration for the next call, actually, but in case I will do. Maybe we can deepen a little bit more about the sustainability of the system in terms of future fees and so on. If there are different cases, respect to the different communities. And I think for us, since I'm working for CNR, the National Access Council of Italy, I don't know for the other situation, but even administrative issue can be a problem. So even so to deepen this topic could be useful. Thank you, Daniel. I already advised the Open Aid Executive Board about this possibility. And now we have a treasurer who will also help and find some kind of solution. So by next year we will do one-to-one discussion also to see what are the specific cases, because everybody has different possibilities, issues, and we understand that. On the moment in which the first contracts will be available, we will start contacting you. Adding the call, showing you the possibilities, and finalize the contract. We are not expecting that for the next year everything will be perfect, but we hope that the process will be clear and distinct by doing this first year together. Okay, thank you. I don't know unless if you want to say anything else. No, no. So if there are no other questions, I think we can close this community call. Thank you everybody. Thanks to be with us. And I'm seeing from there also some hello. Thanks, Francois. For us it's very nice to have the community so much involved and so much interested in this Connect Gateway.  Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Stefan. Nice to meet you again, Stefan. Yes, nice to see you. So I'll think about in the Marine Gateway, how to make it happen. Great. Okay, thanks a lot and register for the next calls and we will be in touch very soon. Thank you. Goodbye everyone. Bye.


Hello, my name is Varda Shoam and I'm the CEO of a men organization, the Israeli organization for Mi'aloma patients and their caregivers. The organization started 16 years ago and it was founded by Paola Azulai, which is not with us anymore, but she was the founder and she's the first one to make the connection with the MPE organization. Today I would like to share with you the effects of the coronavirus on Mi'aloma patients and their families in Israel. And I would like to talk about the activities that we took during this period. As you know, we started on a march in Israel to see the first cases of coronavirus and the patients were in panic. There was a lot of uncertainty and fear. The patients didn't know if they should go to the hospital for treatment. They didn't know if they should stop the treatment. They had a lot of questions about it. We got a lot of phone calls and once the vaccination arrived to Israel, they didn't know if they should get vaccinated. I think in no time we started to adapt the Zoom sessions and it was a great solution for us. We started with weekly Zoom sessions with doctors in purpose to reduce the panic. So every week another doctor from a different hospital would give a session in the Zoom and patients could ask questions and get answers. In addition, we started kind of telemedicine, which was not really organized but the doctors started to communicate with the patients by email, by phone and they asked them to patients to make tests in the outpatient clinic near their house to send them the results and they decided to gather if the patient should arrive for treatment or he can postpone the treatment. There were initiations in some hospitals regarding getting Velcade injection. The patient came in their cars to the parking lot and the medical nurse went down to give them injection, which was really a very amazing initiation. We started, I think one month after the coronavirus started in Israel, we started with a special project of transportation for patients that didn't have their own cars because there was no public transportation and if there was a public transportation the doctors told them not to get into public transportation. So we started to take special cars and to take the patients to hospital for treatment and back to the home. It was a very complicated project and we did about more than 1500 trips. In addition, in the beginning there was a lake of masks so we imported masks and we sent them to the hematology unit. So that the immediate activities that we did. After a few months we decided that we are going to get the face-to-face meetings that we had in the past for support to patients and their family members to put to do it in Zoom. We started and it was very successful because patients in the periphery that couldn't participate before because the meeting were in three centers in Israel started to participate and also patients that could not reach the various centers because they could not live physically, they could not leave the house. They started to participate in this workshop. So this workshop we maintain weekly workshop and it's very successful. We started also with the other workshop that we didn't do before in nutrition, in patient rights because it became very easy to make all these activities in Zoom. We don't need to rent a place, we don't need to move patients from their home to the center where we make the meeting. So it became very easy to make this workshop and we continue up to now with medical information once every three weeks. So right now our calendar is full. We have at least two to three sessions every week. Another activity that we started is to contact with patients through phone calls. We made phone calls to all our patients to see what their needs and to see how they're doing and patients really liked it and I must tell you that we're going to continue with this project once a year every patient will get from us a phone call. We also started to give a technological assistance for patients that have difficulties to adapt the virtual method of communication. As you know many patients are old and they didn't grow up with this method of communication so we started to give them assistance. We also have a special section in our website with all the relevant information about COVID-19. We give them some translated articles, we have some authorities instructions, we have advice from peer to peer members and we answer questions of our patients. What our conclusions are? I think virtual support will continue to be a primary resource. I think we will go back to face-to-face meeting around October but also people that will not be able to join it will be able to access it through Zoom session and also people that live in the periphery and will use it this system. I think as I told you patients enjoyed the communication with the main staff and we are going to implement regular phone calls to check in on patients and all informational sessions including our yearly convention and our convention that we are doing at least four times a year in different hospitals will be hybrid. So thank you very much and good luck and I hope all of us are vaccinated up to now.