f the public i'm i'm jack nelson also here to speak about why would your council adopt an emergency resolution on climate um well to begin with destabilizing the earth's climate system is the greatest harm ever committed by human beings against other human beings and the natural world so the potential suffering is unthinkable and infinite i'm have with me a news story from a week ago just it's one more signpost along the way thickest oldest ice in the arctic north of greenland um being seen beginning to break up never been seen before backing up a little bit further for a little more in-depth information you might see the april issue of scientific american arctic meltdown the editors of scientific american chose to print this headline upside down to suggest that that's what could happen to our world what happens in the arctic does not stay in the arctic and just one poll quote here is strong arctic warming can lead to prolonged heat waves stalled hurricanes relentless rains and more intense fire seasons we all have something we can do to change course on this our city does our city is still thinking of building more of the infrastructure that admits greenhouse gases instead of investing those kinds of monies in alternate um in means of reducing our emissions uh this this particular article was written by a preeminent arctic researcher jennifer francis she describes meeting 15 years ago with a team of fellow arctic researchers and they were at that time uh thinking that we might see the arctic ice free and thank you at the end of the century now they're saying 2040 okay next speaker and you'll also have two minutes thank you i'm susan cavilliri am also speaking to the climate issues that we're now facing this is a brief poem that was in the new york times on sunday hold your breath a song of climate change the water's rising but we're not drowning yet when we're drowning we'll do something when we're on our roofs when we're deciding between saving the cute baby or the smart baby when there aren't enough helicopters or news crews to circle over everyone when sharks are in the streets when people are dying when people with wine cellars are dying we'll build dams and dykes put stilts on our v eights and golf courses cut down anyone who cuts down a tree we'll grow wings we'll go to the moon soon thank you hello my name is carol long a 30-year resident of santa cruz um and a lifelong advocate of emergency uh action on all kinds of environmental issues um i've this has been my main issue for more than 10 years um it's a really uh is an emergency uh i'm going to read to you facts about the fire smoke from the worst fires we've ever experienced in california and in the west and i'll just get as far as i can hear as climate change helps push up uh the number of wildflowers in western u.s communities face losing lives and properties but another threat also looms dangerous exposure to smoke huge fires have killed at least six people raised hundreds of homes smoke has shrouded much of california and gone eastward with nasa satellites showing fingers of smoke as far as salt lake city much of the smoke from the two fires near redding and another close to yummesty has remained close yosemite has remained close to the ground level prompting air quality warnings a big wildfire event not only impacts local communities but people hundreds of miles away uh said richard professor at university of massachusetts even if it's not your home being destroyed it's it is your problem you could suffer serious health effects once a forest turns into a roaring fire plumes of city smoke containing gases and microscopic particles are released symptoms like coughing burning eyes and shortness of breath occur uh widespread more seriously the smoke can can trigger asthma and lead to heart problems has been linked to development of cancer as summers become longer warmer and drier forests are transformed into perfect staging grounds for repeated wildflowers and increasing ferocity and this will not stop it will get worse in the 80s there was an average of 140 wildflowers thank you not 250 thank you for coming tonight okay so hi i'm brett garrett and i also want to support the emergency climate resolution we must treat climate change as an emergency because it is um we've seen in the past when there's been a war people the whole nation has pulled together to to fight the enemy and we basically the whole country needs to pull together our our president is going the wrong direction trying to bring back coal so it's critically important for cities like santa cruise to make a strong statement for the climate and for the planet setting an example for other cities setting an example for california and setting an example for the the nation please adopt an emergency climate resolution um and since i have a little extra time on another topic i just want to support the idea that bathrooms should be open downtown thank you next speaker hi i'm phil postener and this is my dog ahona many of you think she's cute i think she's cute but i want to tell you something a little while ago she went pee in a bus by city hall and nobody stopped her right now when she was peeing there are probably at least a dozen people in this city who are looking for a bathroom let alone at night time when they have a period or they have diarrhea and there's no bathroom open in this city i'm asking for your empathy care as much about human beings as we care about our dogs a point a task force we did have a good meeting with martin where you ask him to appoint a task force to deal with the issue of suffering homelessness particularly bathrooms a point representative of the police chief or representative some of us some of you we can solve this problem it is something we must do because we nicklas eye and others as with you reflect the issues of conscience and action please show empathy and conscience and allow some action to solve this problem thank you for allowing me to speak thank you for coming hi my name is al hindle i'm a resident of santa cruz have been here since 1982 and i also would like to support more public restrooms and hand-washing facilities part of my background has been in managing science labs where i was responsible for cultivating cells where you have to be ultra clean also radioactive materials and i can tell you people who are extremely careful will often contaminate things and this is not just the public at large so this is a civil matter we know societies such as the romans had public latrines where the human waste was washed away and i think it's very very important not only for the homeless population and their health but everybody in general and i can tell you from experience if i was to take swabs off this rail here your desks your microphones i would probably find e-coli i've found it over and over again in microwaves coffee cups plates food everywhere a lot of people are not very careful when they're defecating and wiping themselves and it's even worse when there are no hand-washing facilities and proper places for them to defecate and urinate so i would really urge that something be done about this um i've noticed at the library in the central library here the doors are now kept open i'm cognizant of some of the vandalism and problems that have happened in the past but i know there are ways around this um perhaps hardened facilities should be looked at uh that would be open doors stainless steel toilets stainless steel wash basins etc um i've found it so frustrating sometimes that i would be willing to be on closed circuit camera to be able to use a um a toilet or wash facility so i really urge if we're going to be a civil society that we do have bathrooms that are open hopefully 24 hours a day thank you very much thank you thank you good afternoon members of the city council then mayor um chase no who is now martin yay congratulations um i'm here today to speak in favor of the climate emergency resolution and i want to read to you this um beat of a publication uh done by the uh truth dick um it says in here that we are now having an environmental problem right now we are having a planetary transition we have already pushed the earth into it the mathematic mathematical models of the for the future of the planet had three trajectories one is a massive die off of perhaps 70 percent of the human population and then an uneasy stabilization this icon is complete collapse and extinction the third is a dramatic reconfiguration of human society to protect the biosphere and make it more diverse and productive not only for humans but for the health of the planet this will include healthy all consumption of fossil fuels converting to a plant-based diet and dismantling the animal agriculture industry as well as greening deserts and restoring rainforest so the job that we have a hand is no easy but you know if we don't leak it split we all are gonna be transitioning to another place okay so um i'm here to support that and because i still have a little bit of time i'm still in green this is a surprise for me but um in case that you don't know i have been homeless twice in santa cruz and i have been unable to use bedrooms because there are no restroom available so if you have a little bit of compassion within yourselves it's when you are in a wheelchair it's very difficult to go to the toilet no matter what toilet there are many places in here that i cannot enter because it's not accessible okay i had sometimes to drag myself to reach a toilet put in my hands and whatever was in the ground so get those people people any one of you could be homeless one of these days let me remind you of that too okay give a little bit of compassion and dignity okay have bathrooms that's a human need and just as the little dog that was pee outside well you know we all have to pee thank you next speaker please and just to get a sense of who still wants to speak before the council we're in oral communications you have two minutes to address the council at this time if you're interested in interested in speaking please line up to the left and i see then the gentleman in the gray shirt will be our last speaker okay go ahead you can get started go ahead my name is Ursula and first i'd like to thank you all for your service and your compassion towards the public first and foremost to me the most important thing is to take care of the homeless before anybody does anything else as far as spending money take care of the homeless that's where your money needs to go that's where Santa Cruz's money needs to go and i'm pleading with you people don't have to suffer you can be compassionate you can be kind and open a bathroom to me the most important bathroom to start with to open is the london nelson community center open that bathroom next after that you could put porta potties in every public parking lot also what you can do is have designated parking spaces for RVs and people who live in their cars people who live in RVs and cars two spaces and if you put it in every parking lot it would make a difference and then you can designate in your parks our parks at the camping space for people who live outside and i thank you for your attention thank you hello uh kief mckenry the great great grandson of uh dr james mckenry that signed the constitution and was secretary of war under washington and adams um anyway i um rented uh with money from the community at portable toilet for the area downtown because there were many many complaints by the vets hall the post office lulus all those places wanted a toilet there i rented a toilet tried to secure a permit from the city there's no such permit so i'm encouraging the city to have a permit process so that when we rent toilets we can put them out there without the city confiscating them i think that's uh if the city's not going to provide the toilets and the citizens are going to provide the toilets then the city should not interfere with the citizens ability to provide the toilets the um second thing is that many people came to me in the last week explaining that their cars had been towed that they were living in their cars this is a massive problem happening right in the last uh week and a half that many people who live in their cars have lost their homes the city has come out apparently there's a clampdown happening where each of every single person told me that they got five tickets in one day and then came back to find that their car was gone and it was taken to a salvage there all the cars have been taken to salvage yard um outside of the county and cannot be retrieved and these people now owe hundreds and hundreds of dollars and have lost their homes and are now living in the streets as a result of a policy of this city and so instead of trying to solve the homeless problem we're uh actually officially trying to do something to create more homeless people in our community it's bad enough that they have to live in their cars but now they have not even that and they've lost all their belongings and their clothing and all the things that are important to them so uh it would be really great to stop towing people's homes and discarding them thank you okay next speaker next speaker please so members of the community the audience here and council um please we I invite everyone to stop by the Loudon Nelson Center and uh ask to use the bathrooms I've actually talked to people who don't believe this is true they say oh you can use them if you walk in no that's not the case if you refuse file a complaint there and then establish a record that people older people younger people disabled people homeless people everybody unless they're part of a very small select group that's they're using a program can't use the bathrooms these have been closed since march with no action from Izeth Ray who's the boss there nor from Martine Bernal who sits over here and has access to plenty of bathrooms it's a health and safety issue surely hepatitis a scare common human decency I could run through all these respect for the elderly and disabled I've mentioned being faithful to a Santa Cruz spirit and historical traditions we have here particularly vicious is why these bathrooms were closed that's one of the reasons I'm wearing a bathrobe and carrying a teddy bear it's a solidarity with people outside who are homeless for an examination of relevant emails finally released mostly between Izeth Ray the Loudon Nelson boss and her staff and superiors the concerns seem to be campers both day and night in the park let's make Santa Cruz more unwelcoming to the homeless while pretending to be more common sense and caring no matter what the impact on the general public rent control advocates seem to be recognizing that this ongoing war against the homeless affects all renders more laws to drive the poor from the parks fence off and lock up the park at night that's happening at Loudon Nelson finally shut down the bathrooms and call police if people piss on the grass they can pay thugs with tasers those are parks and rec employees to scare folks away but not to monitor bathrooms and real problems arise go to Loudon Nelson you and you out there have to do something about this this council is not okay next speaker please other before you before you get started just confirming are there anybody is there any additional speakers for public comment one more okay so you'll be our last speaker then go ahead thank you i'm just going to speak briefly about the bathroom situation so he mentioned isis there is a she's administrator of loudon nelson and i think she is someone to interface with directly about like the problem with the the bathrooms not being open to the public had loudon nelson anymore because it was i think it was her administrative decision and i feel it was kind of in brinksmanship with a cohort of people that were doing illegal things in the bathroom and the public shouldn't suffer because of that like and when i say the public i'm you know i don't mean city council i mean the public at large and general people now what did happen when i came to council i spoke about the the bathroom stall at the metro and it's been fixed and it's great it's it's now there are two stalls in the men's bathroom and it's it's absolutely wonderful that it got fixed and i don't know how it happened but i'm glad i had the opportunity to come here and speak to you about it the other things i wanted to talk about i want to talk about how ugly the library idea is the the parking garage on top of a library reminds me that national or no scientific american that he held up with the arctic meltdown upside down you know just just a really stupid weird idea and i think you guys should stop throwing money at it another thing i wanted to talk about is i heard kind of i don't know if it's a rumor so much as you know just an administrative procedural thing but they're talking about not having a the salvation army vets hall shelter this year for the winter time and i think you know there's plenty of time to rethink that because that is something that is quite a relief valve and helps a lot of people and there'll be a lot of suffering if you guys dain to deny that program i know it's expensive but i think it does a lot of good thank you very much city council steve plage i'm really happy this evening to be able to come to you as a member of consciousness and action as you may have gleaned from some of the comments earlier really was started by nicholas whitehead and rabbi phil posner and and keith mckendry and robert norris focusing on opening bathrooms at night when our unsheltered population really needs them you know i think you'd all agree that there are bathrooms around town that are open during the day and that's really to the city's credit to make that happen i want to add that one of our first meetings we had was with martin brunel and we suggested to martin that he opened the san ronzo park bathrooms would have been closed for a number of months and really to our to our surprise and delight of those bath that bathroom was open and remains open so we can work together to make progress happen to really provide some facilities some human dignity for people who need it so badly particularly overnight i think that's the thing that conscience and actions focused on the thing that brought me to that group was to really be able to work on that i will tell you that in the absence of elected officials action there are private citizens who are willing to step up and do this he's mckendry is going to sponsor a party the aclu of all folks has offered to sponsor a party of the united nation association has offered to sponsor a party the santa cruz homeless depot of which i'm a part with phil posner so we are willing to do this and i'll echo what keith says is that you know find us a illegal permitted means to do this if he if we go to the city and say we want to do this it's citizens who want to participate in the solution and don't want to just complain to you constantly about what you're not doing we are willing to do our part as well but we need some help we need some help elected officials who can pass emergency legislation you can change ordinance who can make this happen so that we come to the city and say you know we're going to put bathrooms in the ultra mat parking lot or we're going to put bathrooms over by uh the city uh by post office and one more moment thank you thank you thank you very much for your help thank you okay that will conclude oral communications at this time um we now have our item number 25 which is the interim homeless facility planning item and uh we have susie o'hara and uh assistant city manager tina she'll to present council could be smoked uh oh okay i just go back to you guys can roll shambles to be there you like me to begin maybe uh maybe one second maybe just one okay could we maybe um get get staffed to uh get us a list of the porta potties that are open all all night because there are bathrooms that are open and it'd be great for uh the public to know that and maybe put it on our website or you know where people can uh go um but just having a list would be great yeah we can do that let's go ahead and get started i think they'll they'll come trickling in all right good evening i think it's safe to say uh vice mayor walkins and council members i'm susie o'hara principal management analyst in the city manager's office and i'm co-presenting with with assistant city manager tina she'll tonight and tonight we'll be presenting on the interim homeless facility update and really in that encompassing our recommendation along with the other hap jurisdictions the 2018 2019 north county winter shelter plan so with regard to the presentation overview um our pictures here those are river street camp staffers i wanted to give you that context i'm going to be really talking about this in two general areas one is giving an update on the process that we are going through for the phase two implementation of our three phase plan to ultimately open a permanent year-round navigation center that includes updates on the process of public engagement our funding opportunities and agency leadership and in thinking about that timeline and the process that we're undertaking we are um here today to make a sorry excuse me yeah a copy of this because you're passing it around the brown act requires you to make it available to the public and i think you have a copy i'm watching on the screen thank you susie sorry i had to look a couple of times to clarify okay thank you so given the timeline of the complicated process that we are undergoing with regard to the phase two planning we have come to a recommendation along with the county and the other hap jurisdictions for a winter shelter program to really serve the immediate needs that we have for shelter as we enter into our coldest and wettest months and we will go over those aspects as well so with regard to an overview of where we're at with the timeline and goals objectives of phase two i want to talk a little bit about the timeline we've been at this since may of 2017 i think it's somewhat hard to believe because we've been at this for quite some time but in may of 2017 during your budget hearings you recommended to prioritize your round shelter that really helped to embark the city council as well as our other hap jurisdictions and thinking about that prioritization including what would be the cost the feasibility etc five council meetings later in june of 2018 was your last action associated with this you extended the river street camp through august 2018 as you can very well know that's just a couple days away so as we go towards this process it's important for us to not only today make a determination about what to do with the camp but think about that within the context of this overall planning effort so i wanted to refresh your memory on the council direction over those six meetings there has been consistent recommendations from the council to increase shelter capacity from seasonal to year-round with this three-phase approach and staff has significant responsibility in addition to our other partner jurisdictions as well and that is to develop and deliver a cost effective multi-jurisdictional and an inclusive model to meet that council direction and i mentioned this responsibility for a couple reasons one because this this has been a very complicated process as you can see in those three areas it's important for us to think about all of those in equal parts and with similar level of coordination with the other jurisdictions but it's also also knowing that because of this responsibility that we hope to deliver a successful program but there's also going to be flaws and we will re-recognize that so one of the areas that we are working on is is public engagement and the challenge of homelessness as we know is not new to to santa cruz but i think it's fair to say that the crisis that we're experiencing is changing and becoming very complicated in this process it's important to engage with the diverse cross-section of stakeholders that are involved in in these discussions as you can see across the bottom elected official service providers site neighbors homeless community business community partner jurisdictions these just name a few and what we have learned through this process is that it's very important to take the steps of identifying the problem that you're trying to solve and do that first before you start talking about solutions our three-phase approach really talks about solutions we need to take a couple steps back and talk about the problem and get some consensus on that before we move forward and so therefore we need some time good evening council members tinnish all assistant city manager and on that point this is something that councils directed as well the public engagement and it's you know we're taking it very seriously and it does take time we wish things could have happened more quickly but here we are to have that thoughtful inclusive process we needed more more exploration of the interests of the issues the problem definition and where we all fit into it this very complex puzzle with our jurisdiction vis-à-vis other jurisdictions and then this happened as was reported to you both in june as well as the city manager's update at the august 14th meeting some unexpected opportunities arose as well which further complicates the funding picture and these two are and this is actually a photo of governor brown signing the budget susie actually got the the accurate picture but the state you know there was that surplus money that's coming down to all the continuum of care entities in the state of california and we know that the santa cruz county coc will receive nine point six million dollars this is significant it's a huge influx of funding no one knew this is on the horizon prior to may april when things were talking about them became real i believe in june and now we're grappling with what do we do with this opportunity we know there's three years to spend it and how what are the priorities across the entire county so right now the half the homeless action partnership which is the name for the continuum of care and it's a consortium of the jurisdictions and service providers are working on a process to come up with how do we refresh our priorities how do we think of the best way to not only direct these dollars but other dollars how do we how are we directed to be more responsive to the needs that our county is feeling now and we anticipate the future so it's a different sort of conversation and again not something that we are aware of when we are back in february and and working through this really complicated issue with the council and community so there's that on the left of the slide on the right and this is reported as well and you're all very familiar with this that housing bond that will be on the november 6 ballot and as part of that there's about 20 20 million 21 million dollars a pot that would be available countywide for homelessness related projects so these are you know suggestive of 30 million dollars potentially flowing into our county to solve to solve for homelessness in in the vast array of ways that could be done and the city of santa cruz has a strategic plan that focuses on the unsheltered visible homeless population but there's other needs and priorities across the spectrum as well as well you're you're very familiar with so it's it's been a diverse conversation and that in a complicating conversation but a very encouraging one because it's provided a great place to get people together get entities together in a way that perhaps hasn't happened we have great synchronicity we're moving in the same direction we're having such productive conversations and you can see from the slide that in addition to all the stakeholders are on the engagement slide we have a huge amount of agency partnerships and interests and their own publics and communities that need to be respected as well but um knowing that the challenge of homelessness is so incredibly intractable we really believe that not only do these jurisdictions have a mission to tackle this but so do the other sectors this really is a community-wide issue so we are when we're thinking about how we we plan our trajectory forward um how to present a responsible responsive plan to your council and to other entities we are we're thinking of all these things and and so in light of all this you know we really had to confront what's what's feasible we've been coming with updates kind of short run updates short run solutions and we realize we actually do need to create a reasonable time horizon to confront these challenges the the opportunities are bigger than we thought the stakeholders to engage are bigger than we thought as we know hearing from our community all spring as we talked about homeless sites and in a county-wide strategy you know these are just a lot of very topical important conversations and so we think to really honor that conversation to be responsible we need we need more time we need more time to do planning more time for community engagement and and more time to find out what's happening with funding so we can really sift out the appropriate approach that we think is the best way to go so we have been assertive we've tried to move things forward quickly and I think that's that's a worthy ambition because it it responds to the importance and the urgency of the issue but we just need more time to be able to put all these pieces together and that's become very very apparent as we worked very hard through June July and August and so as we are we are coming to this realization that a larger horizons needed we also have the very real need that there is no north county winter shelter plan in place so as the council knows for the past two years the association of faith communities and then last year the association of faith communities plus the Salvation Army operated to do dual shelter operation and we were told that that organization or afc had a short term commitment we are so grateful for them stepping in but we always knew they were not in it for the long long run and so we needed to come up with something and so the HAP again the Homeless Action Partnership of which we are a member but not the member or driving necessarily came up with the plan to talk about some of our immediate shelter needs and that's Susie will go over that and that's what the recommendation before you tonight yeah so given the timeline that we are discussing and we really think we need in order to be successful moving forward with the next phases of the navigation navigation center plan we'd like to recommend recommend for your consideration a three-part plan for really solving our challenge of lack of winter shelter space in our community those those include an expansion of the river street camp by 20 tent sites to accommodate up to 75 to 80 individuals who are in large part sleeping outside an expansion of the HSC poly loft by 20 shelter beds to accommodate up to 60 individuals and that expansion expanded access to the hygiene services as well and then also expand and diversify our capacity by supporting a safe parking program to include 50 parking spaces and if we can move forward with negotiations with the HSC and the AFC with regard to the the second and third points there we hope to be able to open those expansions by the time winter shelter is usually operational in mid-November I didn't want to mention on this that Tina and I did do extensive outreach with the neighbors directly adjacent to the river street camp letting them know about the potential plan asking for feedback as to current experiences and we did not receive any objections to the extension so to wrap it up and talk about recommended council action as noted in the council agenda report that would be to approve staff's recommended 2018-2019 homeless action partnership north county winter shelter plan by extending not to exceed April 15th 2019 which is the typical close of the winter shelter program and expanding shelter bed capacity at the river street camp authorizing staff to explore a temporary shelter bed and related hygiene based service expansion for the homeless services center poly loft and then also authorizing staff to explore proposed association of faith community safe parking program I did want to note as noted in the staff report as well we're not asking for any additional funds at this time we do believe that what was allocated during the June budget hearings will be substantial to get us through this planning horizon so we're happy to report that we would not be asking for additional funds at this time and we do believe that the state funding which is expected to come in in January will help to supplement our local funding sources so with that we're concluding and have an opportunity to provide feedback and answer questions thank you Susie and Tina and I'll open it up to the council to see if there are any questions at this time so how will all this be governed like for instance this will all be funded from the same pot right from the half is that yeah so the expectation as we move into the next stage of discussing this with the half jurisdictions is to ensure that that north county winter shelter distribution apportionment that has been historical historical will continue in terms of the governance I would I would yield to Tina on that yeah and that's it's the same way it's always operated so the homeless action partnership and the jurisdictional committee will manage that it will be basically three prongs of one program so rather than having a place or two places as last year where people are sleeping there'll be just three locations but we'll all be managed together and tracked together did I answer your question yeah and you know the river street camp in my eyes has been successful in regards to you know it hasn't had an impact in the neighbors it's helping the individuals that are actually staying there will the the way the river street camp has been managed will that translate to the other locations well for the river street camp the operations would remain the same so the same sort of shuttle in shuttle out resources coming there the the great accountability and community building that's there currently would remain the same the homeless services center would manage the 20 additional beds so they currently have 40 beds and so we are discussing a possibility of just expanding that so that would fall under their program parameters as part of this and then the other one would be an offsite somewhere else in the county for that and so it wouldn't be directly related but in terms of what the city would be controlling it would be operated the same okay so the city would have control over the river street camp in regards to rules and regulations and how that's run would we have a say for instance in the safe parking program i would welcome that feedback i mean it's a pretty nascent idea and there's outreach happening and so i think that there definitely is room to talk about what are the interests where the considerations or concerns or things that you'd like to see happening so we'd love to get that feedback from you right i just wanted to make sure that that was available and then when we get to april does that mean the river street camp is going to have 20 less beds because the winter shelter part of this goes away the authorization would be for the entire camp then to be extended until that date and then the entire camp would close okay and then the where the other two are operating for instance at the river street camp you can stay there all day if you'd like come and go as you please um will that be available at these other two locations or is it going to be more of the traditional winter shelter model i again that's an operational detail we haven't fully cross that bridge yet so i don't want to speculate at this point um but i would know that we would continue river street camp that would be an all day operation that may not be feasible in the other locations based upon their constraints and the other organization's needs but so we have yet to to talk through exactly how it would work and are we looking at possibly having people who are currently homeless in santa cruise today be the people that have priority for this these expanded spaces because you know what i don't want to see is people who aren't currently here grabbing these spots i want to see people who are currently here being able to get these spots as opposed to people coming in from other communities correct yeah and that this is something that comes up a lot as you know this council has discussed it other members of the community discuss it there are some things to be mindful of in terms of not only discriminatory practices but also not saying this discriminatory but when you're actually selecting one cohort cohort over another could we do that legally how are things going to work there secondarily it's also practicality so i think that this is an ongoing question that we will talk about but there are no set policies on that right now i'd really like that examined um because i you know i see people who are currently suffering out on the street who are here and so my hope is that we could craft some sort of rules and regulations that give those folks who are here today a preference okay no no no other questions uh by council yeah i think since we are talking about homeless services and we've heard a lot about it what would it take i mean i just really feel like we could put our heads together and open loud and nelson open the bathroom there and what would it take to do that i don't think that we're necessarily prepared to talk about that within the context of the shelter program um it seems like um that might be better answered by martin i mean i would love to to if there's consensus or maybe there's not i mean to get that bathroom open to the general public because i've heard more than once that people who go in there are not getting the code even though um others have said no just go in and they should be relatively give you the code for the bathroom and and it should be okay well first of all the the the shelter program that's before you really has nothing to do with this with the bathroom uh facility now nelson but i can tell you that at least from the staff perspective our goal is to make it as available as possible and i think the the changes that have been made there have really largely been needed in order to just be able to maintain the facility in in a safe condition and that's simply what's driving it and so to the extent that for example when i did meet with individuals you know we looked at where we could make changes and and respond to the need uh an open facility so we did that but in this particular case it's just they've tried many attempts by having monitors by there's been a variety of things have been tried to maintain them open and they just haven't succeeded unfortunately and so it's just gotten to the point where for public safety purposes it just needed to be managed differently unfortunately it's not that there's not an interest in providing the services it's just that it it conflicted with the day-to-day operations of the center just wasn't able to function uh for the use of the facility and and what's the activities of the facility unfortunately okay i didn't get the questions by council members um for staff at this time okay seeing them we'll uh now open it up to public comment on this item this is item number 25 if you would please line up to my left uh every person who is interested in speaking to the council will be given two minutes i will be consistent about that and i um also want to uh reinforce what i stated earlier in regards to decorum and experience of all those that are present in the um in the chambers today and making it a safe and open space where anybody can feel uh welcome to speak to us so i appreciate that in advance and i'll go ahead and and hand it over to you hi my name is dora burlanga and i've been a santa queues resident for the past 35 years this is my home this is my community and i'll do anything for it and i have unfortunately i'm homeless but fortunately miss susie has done an awesome job putting this homeless shelter together it's tough it's it's not easy it's it's as it once says no cookies and creams i've also been fortunate enough to get a job with the homeless shelter rear street camp should i say as a driver and i shuttle these people in and out and i hear their bitches and moans and all this i reframe myself from sharing my own so i can listen to them don't take this away from us it's brought up through self-esteem in so many ways don't don't kick us back out to the streets it's a good thing for santa queues it don't take it away if anything get more people involved in it to make it possible for the rest of the people to get off the fucking streets excuse my language to get off the streets and yes i agree with you help your help us first the locals okay the homeless ones not the ones that keep coming from other states and cities and stuff they come here they destroy my home i don't like it don't take this away um it means a lot to people these bathrooms yes another thing but that's that's a whole another topic in this place people come when they get on the shuttle bus take me home take me on dora and for them to say that excuse me it's um some of these people never call a place a home again yeah it's a tent it's it's they're on a platform but it's home for them they're able to keep their belongings there and not worry that they're going to come back and they're not going to be there they have showers that restroom they have meals they have conversation you know don't take it away from us thank you for coming thank you thank you for coming and speaking next speaker please hi vice mayor council uh brent adams uh chair of the senator's coalition of homelessness and director of the warming center program a couple things here first i want to talk about the warming center as your backup to everybody who sleeps outside and i will say scalable to infinity every single person who sleeps outside this winter will have a place to be not a population cap you need to work with the warming center bring warming center into conversation about how not just to clear ourselves and say we've got to get this this plan done but what is our actual base of need within the city let's take responsibility for all the people sleeping outside let's take make it a community agreement that not one person middle-aged woman with a walk are sleeping in a doorway and we saw many last winter despite the winter shelter we have a shuttle van how do we work with you how do you work with us to make sure that we're providing the best possible service for people who sleep outside let's take this on let's take it real not just kind of a functionary thing that i see us doing when i say functionary that's what i would assert and i don't i'm not trying to uh sour any bridges here but 50 people in that encampment i should see this city council slamming their fists down in in aggravation two thousand dollars per tent per person per month and now you want to extend that it just doesn't make any sense in relationship to the number of people we have sleeping outside we can do better we as a community should take a responsibility for the basic need and try to provide safe clean shelter by any means necessary yes a safe parking yes a transitional encampment and Eugene they cost 10 percent of what we're spending and they don't have the three layers of security crime goes down and people where's the data by this time i would expect to see a data sheet of of people moving out people you know specific data where is it smart solutions said a smart solution has to be evidence-based and produce a measurable set of data why aren't we talking about that a few years goes by and we've forgotten everything we've learned so i assert you're not really doing real work in my view thank you okay next speaker please hey nate alex dot kennedy gmail dot com uh what i got to say about these shelter programs the river street shelter coral street the river street camp all this stuff that we're doing right now well it's good and all but what we really need to do is multiply it by four or more and have a lot more of these kinds of programs out there uh and what i also have to say regarding the whole bathroom issue for the general public that means me all of you when we go downtown and we want to use a restroom if it's a coffee roasting company if it's starbucks if it's a any other restaurant down there we i should be able to go in and say here is a two dollar deposit of purchase to say that i am a customer and i can go and take a poo before i go and order a meal we really need to have that in the city a new ordinance saying that that any i'm gonna go ahead pause for just a second this is the item on the river street camp we had a time for oral communication so just to be mindful of the i'm not sure where else to put this in and a lot of other people are talking about the uh the restrooms as well and that was that was at the oral communication so i just want to remind you that this is here we're discussing the update on the interim homeless facility and any any public comment related to i will close with this all the council members here all of you i really want to talk to you in person i've sent out an email to everybody and i haven't gotten a response yet but i want to talk to you guys face to face not in front of the whole council but in person as soon as possible i already said my email so that's that next person thank you thank you next speaker hi yep keith again and not the guy in the picture um who's a very nice man actually and uh i really love chris so um anyway see um you know we we it was kind of introduced that we've been working on this since may of 2017 and i just like to remind people that we stood here in 1988 and 1989 and encouraged a number of solutions including after the earthquake taking federal funding for earthquake redevelopment and focusing it on single room occupancy hotels and many other things which would have then resulted in there being many less people living on the streets i'd also like to point out that it's a myth that um programs in a city attract people from other cities that's not actually true there's no statistical evidence of that it's been a it's it's one of a number of urban legends that are falsely spread i would remind people i was homeless in cleveland in the winter and everybody said how wonderful it was in cleveland the soup kitchen was great and all the homeless are coming to cleveland in the winter we hear this in every city in the united states it's a it's a myth so they're unfortunately this uh what is true is a homeless family did come here believing that they had work and a mom and dad and four young kids and um they their car broke down they had so many problems they didn't really get the job they thought they were coming for and they ended up homeless so the people they weren't coming for services they were coming here because they were promised employment and didn't realize the housing but most of the people that have come to me in the last month who have just become homeless we're just we're already living here and they were paying rent and even though their rent freeze their rent went up and they uh two months later ended up living in their cars or on the streets so part of what we have to be doing is not looking for increased issue of homeless people from abroad but the increase in homeless people from here thank you next speaker please my name's andy davis excuse me would you mind using the microphone thank you okay that better okay uh my name is andy davis i am a resident of the camp and i'm wondering if there's a hidden agenda here because it says that 20 more people are like 10 sites are going to be moved into the area but we don't know how it's going to happen and we want to know is it going to mean taking away the washing facilities what is it what's going to be taken out in order to make room for 20 more people in a place that already is overloaded with uh half of two-thirds that amount oh go ahead we'll have that amount even we'll we'll we'll uh we'll take note of your question and we'll respond to it after public comment you can't comment now tell me but after after we're able to finish that public comment we'll be able to get back to you on that question oh okay thank you sir okay next speaker please evening i guess my name is mary besan i've been homeless for 18 months as a result of an accident i am sane i am sober and i am very busy i am redesigning and reformatting programs within my community shelter i work for and with downtown streets i am the leader of the levy team i know every inch of the levy and exactly what is going on there okay i have a houseless art project an art project called houseless art we've just delivered pieces to the county fairer i am creating a stewardship on the levy of the various small organization so i'm a busy person and i'm homeless yes um i do not i can't even comprehend how everyone is sitting here smiling about this winter plan in the first place as i understood it correct me if i'm wrong the camp was originally river camp was originally to have 60 tents and that was limited to 40 by the fire department because they require that the tents be a certain number of feet apart so how you're going to add 20 without expanding the space i'm very familiar with that space does anybody know anything about this again we'll get to your questions after we are able to conclude comment but we'll take there were about 50 60 campsites on the bench lands last winter that i was cleaning up we going and clean up the campsites um there were probably another 40 up above that and under the bridge on water street there were 65 people on the program 65 to 70 at salvation army the same number at the vfw which adds up to roughly 250 there are 12 beds as i understand it about 12 beds and paul are in the loft how you're going to fit 20 more in there they're going to be really crammed how 75 people are going to fit in 20 20 tents that that is in a space that's pretty full myself i just i just don't see the viability of this as of today in the sentinel captain loveock of the salvation army stated that he had not heard from anyone thank you okay next speaker please you have two minutes starts i'd like to i think you have the ability to extend time i have been consistent with the two minutes and if you reach out to the mayor or us in advance for additional time then that will be granted but at this time it's been two minutes consistently for public comment on this item so that's what we'll be okay so my um my name's surge kag no you can go ahead and get started okay my name's surge kag no uh no a few of you saw you yesterday and i do consulting on homeless stuff and residential programs um and behavior modification and i've dealt with you guys a few times too um everything i say uh try to take it as improvement not trying to be critical or confrontational or anything i think more things get done when we work together um the process that we've had uh over the last year like i worked at the winter shelter and there's been from there's a lot of politics and i understand why things happen but there was very little information coming out back and forth from the city manager's office they were sort of told not to be sharing the conversations as much as uh i represent the a part of the hat too there's a there's a big group of agencies and then there's an executive committee and a governments committee and we don't know any of those conversations we haven't been in any of those i would say that the brown act probably covers that you were talking about it on um public meetings um public meetings we've talked about a couple times so for the homeless action committee uh the county homeless coordinating committee the two by twos it's this has been a really hard process to get information towards and so i'm going to say a couple things about the proposal and that's true i don't know the details so um if you're doing it at the loft and you're doing upstairs well what's the what about the people wheelchairs like it's a pretty small place um i'm a little confused how you're getting more beds in there when they when they did the refit they wanted to have more people they weren't allowed a little confused why talking about giving it permission now but there was a closed session last week or two weeks ago that was about modifying their lease maybe not connected just confusing why that happened a couple weeks ago but the conversation is now um the loft has a okay that's the two minutes so your time is up feel free to reach out in advance to get more time and we'll be able to accommodate that thank you very much and you're able to submit questions to us directly as well Phil Posner and Ahona i i want to commend i mean i think this is terribly important i do want to make a suggestion when one when one looks out there you don't see very many homeless people here Keith especially as you know does incredible job with food and our bombs he's in constant contact with homeless people Robert i work at the red church on monday's handing out bagels i'm also involved in other process homeless processes you know why they're not here because they don't believe you and they lack hope my suggestion a suggestion is city council people you need to meet with homeless people occasionally so come down to the red church on monday when we're served when that wonderful church is serving that wonderful meal the shelter church programs that were involved in please meet some of the homeless people so they get to know that you do care because right now they don't think you they don't think you care they don't come there's a sense of hopelessness we can change that and if we change that mentality we have a lot better chance of making your wonderful program successful but if if they don't feel part of it who thanks thank you are there any other speakers who'd like to speak to us on item number 25 okay mr. nurse you'll be the last okay um the you so let me get this straight you got 30 million dollars you can't open the bathrooms and you're going to provide less shelter than last winter that is to say you're not going to actually increase the number of people who are sheltered and even if you do if you add up the total because safe parking great idea glad to hear it but in fact it these people were never into shelter anyway they had their own shelter they provided it and they ran away luckily uh they could do it at night in spite of rachel's attempts to criminalize them outside they are still able to do that or getting hassled as well now the issue this is a small fraction of people you're providing for and yet you're you got 30 million dollars to play with supposedly or you know you have a certain amount of money and what you've got is hundreds of people outside what are you going to do about them in terms of at least leaving them alone letting them shelter themselves somehow because you are not you're more interested in developers consultants and other projects than in addressing the issues we've seen this time and time again decade after decade this should be no news to people watching this uh phil kramer could restore the meals at the homeless lack of services center that were discontinued two years ago you're going to do that phil i don't hear anything i understand he's in the audience not required to answer you can answer you can require that you can do i don't know i i stand sort of dismayed because you had uh the san lorenzo campground where people actually could come and go and rachel was in an era when she suggested you know they'll be able to come and go people can't come and go from the current barbed wire boneyard river street campground good as it is in terms of what it does in terms of limited activity and they should be given credit for that but it's only for a small fraction and it's heavily controlled and as brant adams who runs a free storage service which you've refused to provide it only it's it's limited but by three levels of policing and an extremely extremely difficult situation and please extend the time for people next time not just people thank you not just people who are thank you for contacting you in advance thank you very much okay you'll get the dialogue unless you do that concludes a public comment at this time i'll return back to council for action and deliberation are there any comments i'm prepared to move the staff recommendation i did want to follow up on the question because it's something that had occurred to me as well to try to get a better understanding of how logistically spatially we you see fitting more people into these spaces so the tense but then also in at the loft i appreciate that if there are any questions that you had sure sure so happy to clarify that so staff has been working to really look at the feasibility of adding these additional spaces and we are optimistic that both at their river street camp and the homeless services center that there is adequate space to add those 40 spaces which we hope with 20 additional 10 sites at the river street camp when we devise the plan for the river street camp in collaboration with our fire marshal we did leave a significant traveling it's unnecessary at this point to have that there are other ways for us to manage the ingress and egress of safety vehicles and people so that traveling which i think is about 16 feet wide is an area that we can put additional tents there are other efficiencies that we can contemplate there there is a huge dumpster there's other things that we can potentially move around and so we are optimistic that we can add those additional sites in terms of the hsc they have an area that is currently unused it's a pantry area that we are optimistic that we can put 20 additional beds in as well okay thank you what was the 30 million that he somebody is mentioning yeah so the 30 million was back to the funding opportunities that's 9.6 million from the state and about 20 million from the local housing bond measure for the county okay okay yeah and the salvation army was approached wasn't approached so the salvation army has been a part of this process so they did respond to the phase two rfi and we have been continually in discussions with them as to plans for this as we have moved along this process of discovery and understanding how better to move forward with public engagement we have recently reached out to captain harrell as well as the other rfi respondents to let them know that this is the currently the plan you know the city really never led the outreach plan and engagement plan around the winter shelter that was always a half jurisdiction responsibility that was led by the county um so if tina wants to add anything to that um that's where we're at with captain harrell thank you susie i will just add because i also read that quote in the paper this morning and caught me a little off guard because the homeless action partnership is the contracting entity for the winter shelter it is managed through the county and the county in working with last year's providers said they're not interested in doing it again this year so that is why we're not we were not pursuing an operation model with them so that is feedback we had received through the have you know from the county that last year's operators which included this salvation army are not interested so we will certainly follow up and find out where was the point of confusion because that's not um a place we want to be in but it was a bit of a surprise to us last question is it is it planned to move the showers as well and have people shower at the uh homeless services center so the team that i assembled to develop the site uh plan uh originally that's my copper and uh public works we're actually heading out there this thursday to talk about how to how to do this i don't have an answer to that question at this point but i'm optimistic that we can fit those 20 spots i don't know exactly how it's going to fit at this point thanks other questions we've had a chance to hear from the public at this time so now is the chance for us to deliberate um okay any other and we had and we had the questions so i appreciate that we've written down the questions and responded are there any any pending questions that were asked or raised just one cut feedback is that um we don't have all the operational details outlined and there's a lot of passionate interest which is absolutely understood and so as we work through these again working with several different partners to figure this out we will share that information with the council with the community who want to know the ins and out operational details but there's just much we don't know yet and we need to know if the council was okay with this intention to go forward and if the council is then we can elevate things for the next step of planning so far we just kind of gauge feasibility thank you and then also just to add to that one of the elements of that three part plan is to enhance hygiene services at the hsc so um with the homeless coordinating coordinating committee recommendations from last year the city has made an additional investment to expand those hours and we really do agree that it's incredibly important to have access for those that are at the river street camp those that are at the poly loft and others as well so that is one of the main goals of this winter shelter plan as well additional questions for this thing there's a motion on the yeah well i will move this back for recommendation second any further deliberation from the council from what i understand we are going to seek even more spaces for the winter or this is it right now so the plan that you have in front of you is the the expansion of the river street camp in the homeless services center poly loft and then really looking at the safe parking program that the afc has proposed which would be an additional 50 spaces so do we have a goal of how many people we'd like to have provide space for so with the current recommendation that's 40 additional beds to what we currently have so if you add that to the current capacity of the river street camp that's up to 90 which actually exceeds the average um daily use of the winter shelter and then on top of that 50 additional spaces for the river street camp i'm sorry for the for the safe parking program okay so okay thank you seems like there's a lot more to come in terms of more clarification on on how this will all unfold but essentially looking for the direction and we have a motion on the floor at this time as well as the second any further discussion on the council okay all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously with uh councilmember with that mayor trust is absent thank you okay i have just a moment to read this quote from i'm sorry the agenda we have moved the we are now finished with this item you're welcome to submit it to our our clerk thank you thank you very much okay we're now on to item number 26 i know okay so for item number 26 we have the uh review of the meeting calendar which is attached to the agenda and to revise it as necessary um are there any updates or changes and i'll ask our city clerk to provide those yes we did add the august 31st clothes personnel session this Friday okay okay any additional anything else that would be on that okay thank you okay go ahead and thank you we're gonna if you if you wouldn't mind finishing up your conversations outside we'll move on to our next agenda item thank you okay all right so we are returning to our uh item number 27 which is the um the committee the council members to report out on actions at external boards committees and joint powers authority meetings and for future meetings to to come prepared to provide updates and um anything that has occurred between the last time we met and you've presented on your topic let's see anybody do we want to just go through and starting to my left no any updates um well the uh area agency on aging seniors network gave staff provided some reports at our last meeting about disappointing news from Sacramento with respect to state funding for uh seniors programs including housing meals and other programs so that was unfortunate we are working together and i'll update you about possibilities for the city perhaps signing on to support future legislation and i also expect that we'll be hearing from some of those programs through our community programs process that's coming up so just wanted to alert you all to that the rtc the regional transportation commission has had uh uh very uh enlightening and you know interesting and um you know in-depth series of speakers about different options for how to use um railways and and trail production and alternative transit options um and so i encourage they're available on the rtc website um watch them if you can't come to the rtc meetings on thursday mornings at nine a.m. um then uh you can make those you can see those and they're they're actually quite interesting and thinking about the ways that we can use our our rail line and the trail oh and the airport uh i'm sorry not the airport the Monterey Bay community power uh policy board will be meeting again we just um you know we're in the process of trying to figure out how to set rates for the coming year which the general public will be interested in those will come up out in your bills um your pgb bills or they're still uh pgb but it's Monterey Bay community power that's um responsible for the um procurement of green energy so um we are it's possible that we'll see um we'll have some challenges with our budget that we weren't expecting but hopefully that won't translate into rate payer increases for the moment so the groups that i serve with uh they really haven't been meeting much in august except for ambag um their energy watch program is pretty amazing and i've asked at some point to maybe arrange to have them come to council to do a report um when you look at how many energy watch programs they have funded whether it's in our schools or uh low-income housing projects and how many conversions to solar there's been it's pretty amazing so um i wouldn't do them justice so i would like them to come and give a presentation and update us at some point um i also attended coffee uh was it coffee no ice cream with a cop uh at um marines and it was great it was really well attended lots of high fives and kids being able to crawl all over uh police motorcycles so i thought it was a really good community building event and hopefully um we'll see the police um department and maybe other departments reach out and do similar programs around town i thought it was great i'll i'll i'll end i'll kind of end with myself so we'll go over to uh councilmember crone do you have any updates on uh lee butler gave a great summary of the meeting last that last uh community advisory group meeting with the lrdp process um and my other group is meeting the solid waste is meeting this week lots of long-term stuff as you may know our redevelopment agencies were all disbanded some time ago and were then the assets and budgets were overseen by a redevelopment successor agency for the city of santa cruz and all the other jurisdictions and those also recently sunsetted by law so there's now a consolidated redevelopment agency successor agency committee or something with a name like that and so i represent the city on that consult which now looks at all the assets and budgets of what's left of all the redevelopment it's it's very um bureaucratic i think it's safe to say have i have i nailed that correctly anyway we charge on we have housing programs and we have funds and so but the oversight is governed by this committee now um metro um recently uh renewed support for the articulated buses for the coming year so that's really important to the students uh really makes a difference for them and uh have uh are definitely part of the education program on the impact of the repeal of the gas tax it'd be catastrophic to the metro so they are doing the allowable educational components of that again another long term not in the headlines group it's fascinating is the mid county groundwater agency that's a group that includes the city of santa cruz the so-called water district central water district and representatives of private well owners all of which um have an interest in the mid county aquifer and it's a highly functional group doing scientific research there's a citizens advisory group again by state law that's helping develop a groundwater management plan that has to be ready i think it's 2020 have i got that right plus or minus by the state so that that again the membership on that group was by application it's a very diverse and well qualified group they're making really good progress and um they're again you never read about it but it's making really really important progress on an issue that affects us as well as the mid county so um and i'll just say i uh at a personal level i went to the uh celebration and tribute to james oschbacher at the rio um i think it was saturday night the rio was packed it was it was very moving very loving and a genuine celebration yeah it was it was wonderful i had a question about the metro board or the articulated buses going to be used again this fall or that ceased because the the funding did not go no the university found funding to continue for the the school year okay thanks all three of them yeah so i'll just add to rtc we're also in the process of interviewing for a new director george dondaro is retiring and so that process is happening that'll uh board will make that decision relatively soon um and then also for uh all the many people who are passionately following the unified corridor study will be getting that um it'll be coming back soon we'll have lots and lots of meetings about that it'll be a very public process uh there's a lot of folks who are waiting on the outcome of that because that's really uh deciding that what our community wants to do with the rail corridor and then rachel do you want to report out on the public safety committee yeah i realize i forgot to mention that and uh when we were going by so we had two what i consider actually three really good presentations um the fire department gave a presentation about all of the um mitigations they're doing to try to avoid wild fire uh urban urban wildfires and it was really impressive uh they have a program called fire wise and one community up in prospect heights has really taken it to heart and they're doing a lot of you know clearing brush in their area getting dumpsters to do cleans to not allow fires to be ignited and there were several people who got up and were able to go speak with um abby who's from the prospect heights neighborhood to teach them how to start their own fire wise communities so um it was an excellent presentation in fact they got a big round of applause which i've never seen at a public safety committee meeting um then the police chief gave um some just statistics about crime numbers that look like they're going in the right direction but he tempered it with you know we really won't know if the new policing model is working till maybe we have around a year's data to to compare things to um but there was a report from william berry who has uh upper east side section and um part of that was safe way and how just some of the actions that they took a safe way there's around 125 less calls for service at the same time as we had last last year so he's realizing you know there were over 519 calls for service there and we had a discussion that perhaps we need an ordinance that talks about a trigger so when a certain number of calls for service come in it it sets off a trigger of actions that take place because there are a lot of businesses around town that have these high number calls for service so that's um part of the work that the committee is going to maybe present to council i'll just briefly say i um we too haven't had i haven't had that many meetings with some of the assignments we haven't had a community programs meeting but i'm sure that will be coming up shortly um the budget committee will be reporting out on some policy expectations and sort of recommendations and lessons learned that we um will bring forward to the full council for consideration moving forward um and then the homeless two by two committee did meet with the uh uh board of supervisors uh supervisor coonerty as well as supervisor mcpherson and staff just uh continuing the conversations on alignment and strategy moving forward um hence some of the outcomes that we had this evening um there will there is a potential for some shifts with the santa cruz live oak uh youth violence prevention initiative and they'll be having a steering committee meeting coming up that i'll be attending to um better understand what that could look like and i think that covers it from my end and i'll turn it over to staff to see if there's any updates on you i have one update on the library board um and you've you've uh i think read about this but though we did have at our last meeting a presentation an update on the bond measure and sort of looking at the cash flow and some of the opportunities to really try to leverage the funding that's available for the renovations and upgrades in the system and so what that translates into is for the state of santa cruz is an additional six million dollars uh so instead of receiving the 25 million we'll be receiving uh 31 million which is really uh fabulous and great uh uh and unexpected uh and what that'll do is uh it helps in in some part to offset the increases in cost so for example we had allocated out of our original uh allocation a two million for the branch of 40 and the uh garfield branches uh but that's probably not going to be enough so we'll probably add a couple more million to that to just make those renovations you know actually adequate uh and then the rest of the remaining five four million will go to the downtown library which uh brings that up to instead of 23 million we'll have about 27 million uh to be able to move forward with that project so the board uh meeting this week will will formally approve that it requires an amendment that'll then come back for the council to approve as well i just have to say this i wrote a jump bike rented one for the first time um other than just rock and going around the block um and it was great i just really enthusiastic and uh hope i start using those to get around town more like that yeah well thank you all for your updates and for your extended service on your community assignments and at this time um i will adjourn the meeting thank that gap i know don't worry your first your first full caring that's right