Okay, we're back. We're live to talk about energy on Gee, what is it Hawaii the state of clean energy here at four o'clock on a given Wednesday? And our special guest is Peter Russox spokesman for Hawaiian Electric Company, and we are joined by remote By Mitch Ewan who is co-host of this very same program. Hi guys. Welcome to your show Thanks a lot So Peter we wanted to talk about how Hawaiian Electric is dealing with the coronavirus The new world of coronavirus putting it that way because you know The electric company is the center of our world the center of our economy the center of our community and We care about you. We want we want to know how you're doing here We want to know how you're adapting and what you're learning sure you love us now that you need us Clearly, you know We're we may not be the center of all of all the universe here, but we're essential to pretty much everybody's way of life So the first thing I gotta tell you right off the bat is we're in full operation. Hawaiian Electric is Working on all islands. We have ample fuel Other supplies we have deliveries coming in regularly We're not like the grocery store where you can't get a box of pasta We have all you know, we have people in our power plants working We have people working in our system operation center We have some people out of the field doing routine and emergency repairs You have a lot of things to worry about right now, but you don't have to worry about your Your electricity service We prepare for these kinds of things locally and with a lot of support from some of our national organizations We train for them not so much until now for this specific kind of thing But for tsunamis and hurricanes and and weather and so forth and there there obviously some similarities and some differences We stood up what we call our our we have a an emergency management process And we have stood that up which means that you know, all the all the planning and work that is focused on this Problem go through a central office and we have those facilities are our commands. So We are in we're in good shape We are confident we have we have enough power some people have been asking Well, all these people working at home is is going to strain your your system Well, this time of year we have a lot of extra capacity because it's not august or or september when The air conditioners are running. Well, we have Obviously, we're going to have a lot less demand from offices restaurants Unfortunately bars and and other things are not going to be demanding so much. So We're we're in good shape. We have no, uh, you know, unusual worries. We got to keep, uh, You know, we keep track of our system We have to respond to various weather related outages kawai right now and not part of our system But kawai is going through some pretty heavy flooding right now, which they they are prepared to deal with as well So it's kind it's pretty much business as as usual as far as our customers are concerned on their side of the plug What has changed is that we are, uh Asking people we're telling people don't come and pay your bill in person Pay it on online pay by mail there are a variety of ways to pay it And this is important because we we know that in the uh in the coming days and weeks Some people are going to have more trouble than usual paying their electric bill So we're not going to do any disconnections whatsoever for the next 30 days And uh, we're encouraging people if they have a problem, uh paying their bill paying their bill in full Don't just ignore it. Give us a call and go to the website Uh look in the phone book you'll find some phone numbers Call us and say look i'm i'm having a problem What can we work out and we will do our best to work out partial payments or Whatever we can do to get you through this crisis We're donating some money to uh extra money more than usual to willow highly united way in the food bank But on a customer to to business relationship if you have a problem paying your your utility bill Call us it's much better to call and say i've got a problem Then to ignore it and then we don't know whether you're a deadbeat or you have a real problem And uh, we'll do everything we can don't forget you're going to ultimately have to pay for all this It's not a forgiveness, but it is uh, it could be deferred. We can work on payment plans We can talk to you about uh ways you may get help if you're in certain kinds of circumstances I can see this all puts a certain amount of pressure on you because the economy is Slowing down. I mean we had Keith Vieira in uh, you know, he's a hotel guy right and um The hotels are closing and they're not operating and all the ancillary businesses are closing or or limiting or stopping And um including a lot of restaurants and bars and what have you and they're not going to be turning the lights on you know Absolutely right and so uh, you know, that's the reality. We are living within our society right now Uh, we we will have lower sales invariably. I think One small right spot on the horizon if you've been following oil prices lately They're down around 20 dollars A barrel that's remarkable and it is remarkable and who knows how long it'll last and the russians and the soddies Finally get over their tiff it may change again But the point is that within the next two or three months Bills should be going down just because we're using less expensive oil to generate the 70 or so percent of the electricity that we still get for oil and the rest increasingly is is uh Renewable energy that's not tied to the price of oil. So that's a small glimmer of hope, but you're you're absolutely right. We are Uh, you know, we're girding for uh a down down turn in sales and so We're going to be confronting that reality too smaller sales and a lot of people who can't pay their bills Uh, there could be cash flow situations. I'm not in that Uh, you know, I'm not privy to all that but I'm sure we're planning for the eventuality that we might have that We have to pay our suppliers to keep the oil or the other supplies coming But we know they're fixed costs and but you know, this is not just a local problem. It's a worldwide problem. So We're all we're all kind of in this together in this weird way But it's definitely going to be some difficult times ahead for Everybody to keep their head above water and we're going to do all we can To be a solution and not a problem in that As I said, you know, we're going to try to help people with bills If we can we're going to we're we're still operating at full strength on things like our customer Customer installations departments contractors. We've communicated with all of them We're about to communicate with all the solar contractors who we work with Uh throughout the state and actually throughout the country and tell them we're still processing your We're still moving forward so that if you have a construction project that depends on some electricity Infrastructure or approvals or whatever we don't we don't want to be the we're not going to be the one in the way of moving that forward So the businesses that we can support we're going to support by working very hard to make all of our our time schedules and if We can be a little bit leaning on some of their time schedules. We're going to try to do that So, you know, we've got to look to the businesses like construction that can go forward now And make sure that the electric company is not an obstacle to that happening that they're not waiting for their They're they're transformer to be put in so they can finish the building or You know, whatever it may be and for socials for solar contractors We're not going to be holding up things. We're going to try our best to be Right on time in terms of getting their approvals back to them So they can go ahead and send their workers out pay their workers Collect their their money. So in the areas that we can have an influence We can't help the restaurant that has to close. We can't help the hotel Where the where visitors don't come but there are businesses that depend on us very directly And we're going to do all we can to make sure that they are able to Do their business successfully Yeah, it's a test of corporate character right now I think we're in test of character in general for all of us I think we're all going to be tested in the coming weeks and months, but uh, and here again You know, we've talked before about a new ceo not that the old ceo wouldn't have been just as good But scott sue is uh very much involved in the community and he's very very aware of of our Impact he's been out in the community a lot on resilience projects and uh, he's been you know, since he's been appointed and uh, he's been out meeting people out talking to people in the company and and He has the advantage of knowing our company very very well And the people in the company know him very very well and he he's known as a serious conscientious person uh, who is is uh, you know going to Put the community and the the company Put those interests together in the same in the same pot. It went to commandment schools uh, big family here Very much the local boy. I don't know shima also I don't want to take anything away from allen who who has done great and would be great today But scott, I think it we all agree is particularly In tune with with a lot of these things. He's just a conscientious thoughtful guy And he's going to make sure we come through this In a way that that reflects well on our company and that you know We'll all be proud of at the end. We did everything we could so that's good Let me make a couple of other points if you will For customers right now if you're not online in uh paying online Uh, this is a good time to go to hawainoelectric.com Follow the instructions you can get your bills online. You communicate online that way you don't have to uh, you know You certainly don't have to come into there our payment centers You can use that if you are uh, if you haven't downloaded our app Which i'm always promoting hawainoelectric and go to the google store or the apple store Get the hawainoelectric app for free. You can follow outages. You can be you can report outages You could find out where that's where we tend to put most of the kind of short term announcements about things that are going on I think all of us are going to come out of this experience As you were saying, you know a lot more people will be staying home after this I think a lot of us are going to be much more conscientious aware of what we can do online that we don't have to uh Be outside be to be in groups of people be in offices that are small and where we have a chance of Infecting others or being infected. So this is a great opportunity for customers to do that You can pay your bills online. You can get a lot of information online You can also follow outages report outages through these various Online devices and we would be thrilled. I mean it frankly saves us money, which we could pass back to people It purports it goes further to efficiency And I think it also brings the electric company and the community together This is a time when we have to work together and at the end of the day We'll probably understand each other a little better. Well, I hope so. I think you're right here And we're we are for our part. We're certainly aware of the fact You know, we're a big company people people get their bills every month and probably mumble grumble a little bit about it And we don't blame them But we are all in this together and and this is a company Uh, you know, I've been there for 20 years now, but the company's been there for 128 years now and it's You don't look that old at all. Oh, well, you know It's because of it's good. Good living. What is it? Anyway, it's I can't touch my face. I can't tell you exactly Anyway, uh, this is a company that is is literally, you know, all about hawaii has been it's Locally owned and operated. It's all the managers. Everybody's lives here This is the most local company I've I've ever worked for Local in the best sense both in the kind of way people interact with each other and in the sense of Our responsibility for this society as we said before I mean except for a couple of people who are sleeping under bridges everybody depends on The utility for their electric service for watching this program for keeping their food cold Heating it up and all everything that we all know about and we are very very Aware of that and try to be very conscientious about making sure that we we live up to that responsibility Uh, it you know, it it's not just talk although i'm a talker. It's not just talk it weighs on our Our ways very heavily on us every day and and uh, we take it quite seriously We try to joke about a little bit so we don't get all consistent with everything I've seen So uh, peter ross egg that spoke to him from Hawaiian Electric And mitch ewan our co-host here on uh, hawaii state of clean energy You can take a short break come back in half a minute and uh and mitch, uh, like you to follow up with whatever comes to mind and On peter's discussion. We'll be right back We're back. We're live. We're here with peter ross egg and mitch ewan Talking about hawaii the state of clean energy getting a handle on on how the electric utility How wine electric is dealing with the corona crisis? Uh, so mitch you had some thoughts you'd like to ask peter about Well, I'll make uh make a comment first and then we can go along with that first of all You know a big shout out to the Hawaiian electric employees who show up On time when they're needed, you know, they may not be I'm sure they don't show up as they're feeling sick But thank god they do and keep the lights on and the air conditioning on everything we rely on and the other point is that um If we didn't have a good reliable electricity system like especially now we could not Have the choice of or we'd have the choice but we could not work at home So the effect on the economy by Not having electricity to be online and do your business out of the out of your house rather than exposing yourself Really uh rests on the shoulders of the employees of uh, Hawaiian electric. So Without trying to be uh too gratuitous. I just want to shout out Hawaiian electric and like uh jay said and you know It's not the big bad old utility. I mean like you said, they're all part of the family They support us and uh Why for one I'm very grateful that I can be here in the comfort of my house and still do my my day to day work Without getting laid off Like a lot of employees like you said are are being laid off and that's really really bad. I mean, that's really a sad and Fortress people So anyway, thank you for that. Thank you, Mitch. I appreciate that and I know if you know Our 2,000 employees who are all watching at this. No, well, who if they were watching at this moment Uh, they would they would appreciate it too. I will say we have I think we estimate 700 or 800 of our employees right now are working from home Getting, you know, kind of breaking in the system to allow them to do that We are a very technological company in that respect and we've long had the ability But we've never had this volume of people working from home Teleconferencing and you know, it it comes along if I may say just at the time when we're kind of finishing this one company move so We were already Doing a lot more teleconferencing because departments have people on all three of the major islands And so forth and now that combined with the with working from home is I think it's going to change the way we work in the future, but we really encourage other people to to do that to the extent they can Yeah Your comment about changing how we work. I think there's a huge issue I mean people are going to be doing this for quite a long time probably And we're going to adjust how we do our work and I think we'll become much more efficient So instead of spending, you know, an hour on the road and traffic, we can have more productive time at home We're not going to be crowding the roads with more cars. So maybe that'll reduce traffic congestion emissions A whole variety of things. Maybe the requirement for a company to have so much office space. They can look at that so, you know, we had Shared offices and staggered times, you know, we wouldn't have to invest so much in our rent and all the other things that It takes to keep an office open. So I can see this. I see it from the university level is basically in my own personal Thing I just I show up to the office. I work behind a computer basically Interaction with people in the hallways is good because some of the best ideas come out of these unplanned meetings in the hallway So I think you still have to keep that component in you can't just totally walk away from the office and never show up You still have to have those interactions Maybe they can be planned interactions like brainstorming sessions where people just get together, you know in a morning Once or twice a week or a month and just talk about things and get that You know input from everybody around the table because you know, that's why Human beings interact so well is like everybody's got an idea and a slant put on things But I think this will certainly make people look harder at that business model so It's like, you know, remember in 08 when oil was up about What was it for barrel $150 a barrel or pushing that and the the level of traffic dropped dramatically like 2025 percent But once the oil kind of leveled back out to its normal around $80 a barrel It didn't spring back that 25 percent. I think the policy forum who is our sponsor for the show Got to get a plug into the forum they found out through One of their surveys they did that really Net overall there was about a 10 reduction In the level of traffic After the event that event was over So We'll have to see how like you said how this factors out like does everybody actually need to show up just to show up Yeah, we human beings seem to need a tragedy or a disaster or a catastrophe And then we change into ways that we kind of knew before we should or we could But we just kind of didn't get around to it So I think human nature being what it is. I'm sure there will have be a lasting effect from all this and and I think that'll be we'll see but you're right We still can't we still have to have human interaction and maybe it has to be a little more focused a little more planned We have to use the electronic media to You know to have some of these things you can have now with skype and with other kinds of things you can have uh Get together so to speak and uh with uh people online, but I think you're still going to have to have a A reasonable level of interaction with human beings Face to face and I think a good balance is what we're going to be seeking So there have been a you know a lot of proceedings going on at the puc a lot of You know deadlines running, you know processes legal processes Contractual processes you spoke about dealing with contractors before but I'm I'm talking about you know the projects the big projects The renewable projects everything in the pipeline so to speak Um, and I wonder you know, I don't know if the puc is shut down like the courts. Maybe it is Um, but the state government is essentially shut down even the legislature And so I wonder how that affects all the initiatives that have been going on As a matter of course between the electric company and You know various contractors and Proposers and developers and the like and the puc. How does that affect this? Well, I think the puc because it is the regulator of Our utility and the other utilities that are essential to daily life Is probably a little bit different than than the legislature. I know there was a meeting yesterday morning at the public utilities commission where we were asked to Talk about what we were doing in terms of customer facing Communications and how we were dealing with people and we told them about These kinds of things that i've been telling you about the decision not to Do any any uh disconnections? The things we're doing to reach out to people who may not be able to pay their bills How we were talking to to contractors and so forth So I I don't know about the staff and I would I would assume that if there are people at the puc Who can work from home as there are at hawaii electric and other places that many of them are doing that But I think the commission itself Uh sees its role as not uh a job where they can say oh well, uh, you know We're going to close down and not not worry about this till later. I think they're very much involved I think I know the the people who are now commissioners j griffin and and uh, who's the chair and others are not the kind of people who will say Hands off and we're not going to worry about it. They're going to be very hands-on. You know, some schedules are perhaps going to be uh elongated or obviously there are there's the possibility that some of these timelines will slip But I think to the extent that we can avoid that We're going to try to avoid it. We have and we've promised in may to Announce another round of renewable con of renewable projects and to begin negotiations with those companies on final contracts. I can't I can't say with absolute certainty a little happened exactly on the day we expected But I believe we'll go forward and we because we we have to we need to We need to get our our dependence even on cheap oil down further over the next few years and So that's going to go forward. They're going to be inevitably some things going forward that can't be controlled and that will be delayed I don't doubt that that will happen But we're committed to being as you know operating as near to normal as possible Given the circumstances that we have the facilities to do much of that We're committed to being as close to normalcy as we possibly can And to but at the same time giving our customers and giving our contractors and giving the people we work with Every break we can too because they may not have The size or the ability to to deal with things the way we can but you know peter, uh, you know, the everybody makes these expectations on how long this virus crisis is going to last 30 days a lot of a lot of organizations and executives and officials say 30 days and the planning for that horizon Some some will say 60 or 90 days Um, nobody knows for sure. Nobody knows Uh, and it depends on so many things including scientific things that we really don't have a handle on So my question is I mean, how do you deal with the possibility? This is going to be longer than 30 days or 60 or 90 or 120 You know, I you guys are really the center of our economy Such as it is the center of our life here in these islands the center of getting up in the morning um Got a plan for an extended period Well, that's why we set up the emergency management process And part of that is to plan for tomorrow and part of that is to plan for the future And you know, we can't see too far out But we can uh, we can Look at what is the worst case scenario? What if this is uh, uh, you know, what if it is six months and how How will that be affected? There are obviously huge numbers of unknowns here It's the novel coronavirus and nobody's ever dealt with this or a pan. I think a pandemic of this Uh magnitude So there's a lot we don't know but what we can do is take some very smart people who we have on our On our team and say what do we need to know for tomorrow? On the week to come and the week after that and we'll plan no disconnections for 30 days and before that expires We'll look at it again. I mean, that's kind of like all we can do but we do have people who have trained and who have planned for these kinds of contingencies and We have also very good resources in terms of knowing what's going on both local and from our national organizations People who will be telling us and showing us what other utilities are doing Uh, so You know, I I will guarantee you there'll be mistakes Uh, I guarantee you we will not be on top of everything that's that happens But we will it won't be for lack of trying and won't be for lack of working at it That's why we use the emergency management. We call it an incident management team That's why we use this process so we can kind of shed some of the the the distractions and make sure We know exactly who's responsible for today tomorrow and and whatever the future may bring. That's great, peter We'll do our best. We'll do our best come down and talk to us about it too. We want to follow it We'll be back anytime because I think information is absolutely critical. I agree. So mitch. Uh, you have the uh, Enviable task of summarizing and saying goodbye. Can you do that? Okay, well quickly summarize it looks like, uh, hawaii electric is on top of the situation right now I think uh, people don't have to stress out about their energy bills. Like peter said, we're not going to cut your lights off So don't stress out about that Uh, the workforce is coming in every day and doing their job. Thank you very much for doing that You can work from home and maybe be more efficient And I think that's it. As you said make my exits short and sweet. So aloha everyone We're out at mitch. You and peter rosek. Thank you gentlemen. Thanks very much. Take care. Aloha wash your hands. Stay safe. Stay well Stay well


So, I don't know if you noticed outside, did you see a mural that was on two poles? So I collaborated with artist Megan Wilson and I have a poem that's on the mural and I'm going to begin with that poem. It's called Flower Instructions. One, blanket the streets with plum blossoms. Rest body against warm concrete. Find rose petals on sidewalk. Glimmer of the memory garden. Two, follow the trail of invisible bees. Nectar guides for the lost ones. Fling lasso into summer darkness. Hear whistles and megaphone. Three, hold body close to body. Breathe in the greenhouse. Wear wet glitter and silver hose. Lick salt on skin. Four, catch whispers in libraries. Greet strangers with acorns and grapefruit. Remember eyes, ghosts, smoke. Watch brothers as they disappear. Five, imagine a new world. Keep sisters close. Thank you. So, when I was younger, many, many years ago, I used to work at libraries and this is a poem that I wrote when I was living in Southern California. And it's called The Indexing of Sensation. It will be four days until the air lifts to the vaulted ceiling. Jean comes into the library and passes wildflowers into my hands. Put these in water, darling, and have a brilliant day. I push the cart down the carpeted aisle. The repetition of movement is a meditation. Anno's counting book, Mitsumasa Anno, PZ7A5875. The Forgotten Ones, Milton Rogovan, TP820.5R64. The Balloon, a bicentennial exhibition, TL615B34. Maps of countries that don't exist anymore. The archiving of fantasies. The referencing of systems. The indexing of sensation. Thank you. Thanks. And this poem is from Scorn Bone on nomadic press. We love nomadic press. And it's called Are You in the Room with Me Now? My therapist asked, Why Never Cry? I asked myself the same, closing my eyes, a small stye in my vision. As hard as I tried not to cry, I was shy as a child. As I crossed the street with mother, I hid behind her lab coat. The other night, I lost my sight. My throat taught in tight. I thought I might cry. I could hear a couple on the crosswalk. A man doing a handstand. Two kids making plans. Perhaps a chance to dance in another place. I could cross the state line. Cry at the sight of a shimmering lake. My therapist asked, What are you thinking? How does that make you feel? Where did that come from? And are you in the room with me now? In Rio, there is a majestic cross on a cliff. People live in pink paper shacks below. I danced and I drank there. I thought I might die there. I crossed myself, although I didn't believe. You sweat silver tears. You see through pink paper walls. You think your body might be crying now. Thank you. So this is one of the poems that I think is going to be in my book on manic D, which I'm really excited about. And it's called The Diving Beetle. The Diving Beetle. I told you it was a pyramid scheme. You don't remember? We were drinking whiskey. It was spring. You were convinced that if you invested the money that your dad had left you, you would be rich, mega rich. And you were going to buy a house for me in Petaluma. You don't remember? I said you were crazy thinking that beetle juice. Oh yeah, that diving beetle juice would cure all, including everything I suffered from. Insomnia, hives, anxiety, allergies, poor memory. Truly, you don't remember? Well, I do. You were wearing a blue cashmere coat that day. It was overcast. Even the air tasted gray. You announced, I have something to show you. Don't tell anyone. Not even Dakota. Definitely not Dakota.  In the bottle was a beetle. Dark brown with olive streaks.  But I remember being mesmerized. What the Jesus, it's moving. Use of the liquid emitted from the beetle's body had a powerful antioxidant and an almost supernatural quality to heal the human body. The bank had just transferred the funds into your account and you were about to write a check to the president of the company. What was it called? Water Tiger. That's right, Water Tiger. Thank you. Okay, let's see. I collaborate often with visual artists and I have a friend named Marc who's a painter and he did a series of paintings which he called Time Machines. This is one of the poems from that series. Time machine. To a place liquid and smoky. A b-boy on the sidewalk long lashed, laughing. Humming birds. A disappearing act. We followed them. The heat in the room. The colors of bees. The blankets and trees. The buzz in the well. Falling quiet now. Hands and eyes. A yellow there and here. Remote spring. Such soft fires they asked. On the shore we pose with sea birds. Oil-slicked, enameled surfaces. Questions. Three drops of pale green. Stay the night. Thank you. And this is a new poem and it's called Another World. Summer brought flowers this fall. We volunteered our skulls. We slept on utopian benches. Sometimes tourists get caught in the crossfire. The burning sensation. We locked eyelids. We held hope. Our bright torsos wrapped in sapphire suits. Don't touch. Please do. Then spring shot wet bullets into our electric skin. Thank you. And this is my last poem. Does everyone know what a durian is? This fruit, yeah. Doesn't smell very good. Okay, this is called Durian. I am the lonely king. Ruler of all. Both sick and sweet. I sit on my throne alone. Wove and branch and leaf. Cloak of spikes and thorns. Prevent touch. Hard husk. I trust no one. Should I crack open upon fall or wall? Ascent so foul and rank. Tremble and crawl. Tremble and crawl. Thank you very much.


Before we get into this I just want to remind you quick that we're giving away a Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Nintendo Switch OLED Edition. We're also giving away a pin from PAX East and a collector's edition of Tears of the Kingdom. We're also on our road to 133,000 subscribers so I'd appreciate if you would subscribe to the channel, like this video and leave a comment below telling me the very first place you plan to visit once you drop in the Hyrule in Tears of the Kingdom.  Are you ready? We are getting a Treehouse Live for Tears of the Kingdom. This is so exciting folks, we talked about in the past how they might do some sort of Treehouse Live, it might market the game even more and now they are. They are doing a Treehouse Live on May 11th, the day before Tears of the Kingdom comes out. How exciting is that? They just announced this over on their Twitter account and it says Get Ready Legend of Zelda Fans. We will be hosting a special live stream leading up to the Nintendo NYC Midnight Launch of Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, tune in on 5.11 starting at 6.45 Pacific, 9.45 Eastern to watch Nintendo Treehouse Live and more. This is pretty awesome and epic and amazing and does this alter my plans? That's the real question because I was originally planning to live stream myself at a midnight launch at GameStop picking up the game but do I just not go to a midnight launch and instead stay home and live react to this? Because after all, they are going live roughly in couple hours before the game comes out. I mean if we think about it, it goes live at midnight Eastern time that we can play it digitally so they are going live about 2 hours and 15 minutes early. It kind of makes me feel like I probably should be here live reacting to this because they are going to have a bunch of gameplay, it's a Treehouse Live, there is probably going to be interviews. I might need to prioritize this over my midnight launch which is a little bit sad but that's okay, it's whatever, we'll deal with it, it'll be alright. But I'm really excited to see what they decided to show us. I'm presuming we're going to finally get an official look at the full opening cut scene and tutorial area and everything else in between. I'm so excited guys. So I just needed to give this quick update video out to you super fast. You guys let me know down below what you want me to do. You want me to do a live stream reacting to this or would you rather I be doing the midnight launch in live streaming from there. I'll leave that up to you guys. Catch you guys in the next video.


Hi, and I'm just going to quickly give you an overview of the history of it night and how the program started. As described in its 2011 strategic plan, evaluating the impact of existing genomic medicine programs and ensuring access to genomic medicine in diverse population settings is a priority for NHGRI. To further explore the then current landscape of genomic medicine implementation, NHGRI convened two meetings in June and December of 2011 consisting of investigators from established genomic medicine centers. These meetings identified exemplar projects as well as obstacles to successful implementation that might be addressed by a more structured and sharing of approaches. Some common barriers identified were skepticism, expectations for morbidity and mortality evidence, needs for IRB approval and CLIA certification to use the actual results, confusion over consent and models for counseling, difficulty integrating results with existing electronic medical record systems, the burden of interpreting and the following up large numbers of results and as well as reluctance to adopt novel patient care strategies. Terry went over the goals of the RFA just to give you how the RFA started. The concept was brought to our February 2012 Council and we released an RFA later that spring in 2012. And I won't repeat the goals of the program, Terry went over that. The first round of projects were funded in the spring of 2013. Mount Sinai is studying a population of non-diabetic hypertensive African Americans to test whether renal care will be improved in patients that receive electronic medical record-enabled renal care clinical decision support incorporating APOL-1 risk information compared with those that receive renal care clinical decision support based on conventional risk information only. Duke is using a cluster randomized controlled observational study designed to test the uptake of their family history, family health history tool in primary care settings and University of Florida is leveraging a personalized medicine program at the University of Florida in Shands Hospital to expand and implement the use of pharmacogenetic information in the hospital that serves a diverse community and also has a structured genomic medicine education effort as well. We then released the RFA again in the summer of 2013 and three more projects were funded in the spring and summer of 2014. Vanderbilt University is performing a multi-site test of hypotheses that integrate genetic data within environments with diverse informatic capabilities to see if it's feasible and to see if it can alter the behavior of providers towards a vision of individualized medicine. University of Maryland is, um, project was designed to develop, disseminate and evaluate including from a payer's perspective and Tony will talk about the meeting that we had a couple of weeks ago doing that, a sustainable approach to detecting and diagnosing, promoting individualized therapy for monogenic diabetes. And Indiana University is evaluating the impact of implementing a pharmacogenomics program on health economics as well as adverse events at a large sex unit hospital and they're using a panel of 14 genes with 44 variants. Terry showed this map as you see we have academic centers as well as primary care clinics and family medicine practices all over the country, many in rural areas and many serving diverse patients. And you'll hear about that throughout the day, the different sites we have, especially in our first talk. We have a wonderful external scientific panel, five of the six members are here today and the other member had a, he was already going to be out of town and was not able to join us. Levi Garaway is the chair from Harvard Medical School. We have Christopher Shoot, Johns Hopkins, Karen Albeck, University of Utah, Bill Evans at St. Jude, Katrina Goddard at Kaiser Permanente and Kelly Orman from Stanford University. The Ignite Network is currently made up of six working and interest groups. I'll quickly just go over the goals for those. We have a common measures group which is identifying the implementation process and outcome measures. They're also developing strategies for measuring processes and outcomes, especially as far as genomic medicine implementation and then catalyzing the synergies across the studies. The dissemination outreach and sustainability group led by Ken Levi, who's at the back of the room, is developing strategies to increase awareness, create internal and external education initiatives to support genomic medicine implementation and design sustainability models. We have a provider adoption and education interest group that's led by NY and I don't think Kristin's here to collaborate and share experiences and resources in education on the clinical applications of genetics and genomics and disseminate methods for increasing and assessing adoption of genomic medicine. The clinical informatics interest group is led by Josh Peterson. And this goal is to develop a clinical decision support repository to store in an index clinical decision support rules and examples of artifacts, as well as developing agnostic EHR, CDS rules and assessing ways to incorporate clinical decision support without alert fatigue. Then we have the clinical validity, utility, and economics. Interest group is led by Vicky Pratt in the back of the room. His goal is to examine evidence for adding clinically valid and useful variants to genomic medicine panels and gather and submit evidence in support of moving genomic medicine to clinical practice. Then we have our pharmacogenetic centers group who is examining methods for outcomes and pharmacogenetic testing of various drug gene pairs across the night. And I think Laurie Cavallari, I saw her walking in the room. Yes, she's right at the back on the outer U. Many thanks to the investigators in the night network. We have worked very hard in the last, I would say, two to three years, depending on which sites came in, to make it very successful. We've done a lot, and we're looking forward to hearing about your recommendations for what could be done in the future. Thank you. Next, we have Anantha Shakar. He is actually going to talk about what they've done at the Indiana University Health System. And it's actually, we heard about it at one of our steering committee meetings. And we're very excited because this is really what we wanted to accomplish through at night is expanding genomic medicine. So very excited to hear what he has to say.


Over rotation. We always hear about it.  No, God! But why are you over rotating? What we're gonna talk about are quick fixes during crunch time of the season to help you fix that over rotation and pick up big distance fast. Here we go, check it out. Everybody, it's Eric Johnson from Airtight Throws, Nathan, and in today's YouTube video, we're gonna talk about one of those common mistakes that's really plaguing lots of throwers out there, the dreaded over rotation. So one of the things that you hear quite a bit where you can see, or a lot of people will point out, a lot of times I'll notice posts on Instagram or YouTube and people are pointing out mistakes people are making and they're very obvious. But we wanna look at why these over rotation mistakes are occurring in the first place so we can start to look at ways to address them and help you improve faster. So the idea here is we get to the crunch time of the season and we've gotta make simple adjustments that are gonna yield big results. These are gonna be some of those things. So number one, what is one of the biggest causes of over rotation? Young throwers, when they have too much foot motion and they stay on a high toe. So you're gonna notice how tall the heel is and so you see some kids and they do this and they stay up and you see how tall that foot's staying. So that is gonna cause over rotation because what they'll do is they get up here and you can see that does help me rotate but we need to be driving and pushing the left knee into the throw. That's what we refer to as pillar three. We call it dropping in and sprinting. So what we wanna feel is we're coming into the throw here if we're driving into the throw, we're pushing the knee in and creating that nice wide sweep. So if we have the high heel, we can't do that. So one of the things is, don't do this. And then what we're gonna talk about are how do we fix that? So the quick fix for fixing the over rotation if you have the high heel is simply to turn with the heel lower to the ground. We wanna stay on the inside of the foot and we wanna keep that foot lower to the ground and that's gonna set up this type of an axis. So we're gonna be here and you're gonna see if we look at somebody like who I think does this extremely well, Daniel Stahl. You look at Goosdeus, again a little bit taller but you're gonna notice again how the left side turns and the heel is gonna come down into that low position. So that's mistake number one. That's a simple fix for mistake number one. Okay, mistake number two. Mistake number two is too active with the upper body and what I mean is opening the arm and chest and you're gonna see how that's keeping me here. And so when I do this, you're gonna notice how that helps me really spin around. And so now if I'm throwing and I open the arm and chest, you're gonna see that big over rotation and yes, there is a proper way to throw the left arm. One of the things we talk about inside the Throne Chain Reaction System is every pillar has a window. So in pillar one, we have optimal position points, right? So what we're looking at is, especially with the entry side arm, we always wanna be thinking, take that arm to 12, 10, eight, six. And so then it's gonna be opening around. So we're taking that long path. If I'm a left-handed thrower, it's 12, two, four, six. You can see how it's this way, right? And how everything's gonna pull that way. So we wanna be active, we wanna be aggressive and we wanna use that entry side but what we wanna do is avoid ripping the chest and the arm open because you'll see that does help facilitate rotation. But again, if I'm throwing and I throw, it does help me kinda push but again, what too many young throwers are doing is they don't truly understand that and they're just opening and kind of stepping into the throw. So that's mistake number two. And again, try to take the long path around aggressive with the upper body. Be aggressive, move the arm properly. We talk about how we're going to move it into the throw but if we just rip it open and turn the chest, that's gonna be game over, you're gonna over rotate. And if you have mistake number one combined with that, so you have the high heel and that, you're gonna really over rotate badly into the throw. Okay, so item number three, what we talk about is one of the key things is, we talk about turning the knee in. So now when sometimes if I have everything long and I do this, I bring the sweep leg goes narrow. When the sweep leg rolls over, we're gonna again create rotation and that ultimately is going to have a really negative impact on what you do in the middle of the ring. It's actually going to stop rotation. So you can over rotate and then it's not gonna allow you to rotate properly into the middle of the throw. So again, we tend to see this again with a lot of younger throwers and where you'll see athletes and they rotate here and the toes pointing down on the sweep foot. So quick fix number one, we talk about leading with the inside of the knee and keeping that toe up. I'm not a big proponent of super high. I just want the toe open so that it can create that nice rotational round sweep path. Long time ago, we did a video on the sweep and we kind of show that how we take that wide long position with the sweep leg. That creates again the right entry path. If you coordinate that with that 12, 10, eight, six upper body and you've got that sweep leg following in that same path, that's where you set up that really nice dynamic throw. I think one of the guys who I think on the world level is doing that in a super pretty way now is Frederick Dockers. Really nice big wide sweep. It's really pretty and it's super dynamic. And so when you look on the women's level, you look at Sandra Perkovich, really awesome right leg, super wide and around and she really cranks that sucker in. But those are the things that are going to help create the right path. So you think about it logically. So keep the toe up and keep lead with the inside. Some people say inside of the thigh. I don't want to see this. We want to just see the leg staying open so that we're going to create more rotation. So item number four, common reasons for over rotation are the combination of your doing one, two and three. And so when you put all of those together, you have the perfect storm for severe over rotation. You're probably going to hear that kind of hard landing in the middle and then the rotation is going to stop. And we're going to talk about why that's bad in another video. But for today, hopefully you found that helpful. If you find yourself doing a couple of these things wrong, go back, review the video. Hopefully these are some quick tips that are going to help a lot of you out there that don't have coaches or a lot of you young coaches that are doing your best and trying to do that and haven't don't understand these small details and hopefully they're going to help you. If you did find today's video helpful, do us a favor, hit that subscribe button, give us a thumbs up, comment below on what else you would like to see and thank you so much and we will see you on the next video. Be sure to check out our next videos. Be sure to subscribe, visit our website for free videos. 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Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We gonna have fun. We'll be on fire. We'll be lately It's a unique hustle check check check this unit house. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? No, no, you know, my dad will go on I want y'all to stop what you doing right now at this moment and go and like subscribe follow us on all social media platforms I mean your Facebook Instagram tick-tock. I mean snapchat you name it We're on it but check out or our patreon channel because that's where we drop a lot of our full-length interviews way before The clips start coming and on our YouTube membership. So if y'all love what we do, you love the brand y'all been rocking with us Might as well support by signing up for a membership package Man, hey man, listen man. We got a special guest in there today. He don't really need no introduction This guy right here a man. You've seen him. He's been on a lot of different flat platforms here lately I even seen an article on Vlad TV with you on it, man Tony will riches in the building. What's going on, man? Tony motherfucking. We're Don't add that in the wow. Yes, man. So my rap name Tony The rap name what you're trying to say you're gonna be rich. Is that why the name is pronounced Tony will Be rich, right? So we'll rich, but you're gonna have to be in there We'll be rich. I ain't rich yet, but I'm about you speaking it into existence manifestation. I'm a king and queen of manifestation Got you. I love it. So but but when you're rich, what's you gonna change the name to? Uh, Tony rich And I'll take the wheel out because you know, it ain't gonna be no wheel be gotta take that So right now it's just will be rich rich. Yeah, it's still got two dollars in my PNC account You know the biggest thing I keep seeing on the internet is you the first openly gay Rapper that's a crib. Yes.    You got saucy Santana.  He ain't no gangster. I'm a gangster. So that's the difference with me and all these other rappers So it makes you a gangster because I used to I'm well, no, I'm a crib and I grew up on the south side Yeah, how you did you get jumped in or swore? I don't how do we know your official Okay, so I was I grew up on the south side and I used to hang out Hang around with all these different crips And we became friends.  I'm a crib too.  You know, actually it Initiation I didn't actually I'm special.  That's just bad, you know So they say you a crib or you say you a crib. I say I'm a crib Oh, I got I say I'm a crib and they know I'm a crib. Yes You don't know it because I'm from the south side. All you got to do is just be born You it's just like being born into something if you born into The family your last name is weird born on the south side. It's bunch of crips on the south side So now I'm a crib just because I was born on the south side. Okay That's when I think about crips in in Fort Worth the one that's really the most known person Is okay And he made a video about me and said it's okay. So do you know oj person? I watched the video that he made about me. What do you say?  That's him. He it's okay. So now that's even more He really pretty much he gave you your approval. That's that's my niche. That's my extra initiation right there I'm already a regular crib now.  You know now I'm a crib for you when he said that Oh, I'd be going right here banging. So he really kind of helped promote your crib. Yes That's it.  Okay, so the way that the world looks at you know being against the being a crib and stuff like that Blood say that first of all the way the world look at it is you gotta had you gotta had been a jail So many times been shot at been then shot stuff Then did this then sold drugs and stuff like that. See me. I didn't do it.  I didn't been in shootouts Half, you know, I don't I might have shot at people now I did not have a gun but I got shot at and they shot all my windows out So that and I was in the car and I survived that makes me even more of a crib Against the because I was you know, I survived that Like when you go through stuff like that when you make it out alive That just make you even more gangster because you just first of all, I didn't even have a gun And I'm up here still against the other people so that make me just even more better. How you gonna be against people?  So it's okay It's like he didn't kind of put me in in a way Even more than I already was because I already grew up on the south side hung around other crips Then been in jail been shot at been in shootouts Then kicked in the I've kicked in a dog before now.  Yes, well with my home girl What? Both of y'all kicked it in together She okay when we got to the dough We kicked in the dough, but it automatically open because it was already open. It wasn't like it was already open So we just kicked it and we went in We went in It was it was an old friend or whatever. You know, this was when I was younger It's me and my home girl We kicked in the dough the dough's unlocked, but we kicked it though. So that makes it a kick though I had on black forces so I went in that motherfucker and Uh, my home girl stole his ipad He had like a whole bunch of change on the dress So I took a chip or dorita empty dorita bag and I scooped all the change into the dorita bag I took it to uh sacks This was a long time ago back when sacks a was open on the south side took the sacks Say to the corn machine put all the change in there. I got a hundred dollars worth of coins Oh And it was it was lit.  Yes She was born on the outside. She still is creepy. She's still on the south side bank crib I'm telling you her favorite color blue her car blue everything about her blue. You bet not go over there You ain't got no blue right now.  I was born into it So you don't have no other cribs over there in your area that come and try to Tell you to stop claiming cribs. Hell no. I'm not not gonna do that because for one is social media So they gonna of course that's what social media is for to get on there and hide behind A platform, but I guarantee you days in my face.  Nobody's they gonna walk past me and they're gonna keep going They're gonna keep it cute keep it respectful and they're gonna keep minding their business In person now on facebook social media instagram twitter, whatever you could type whatever you want to type So let me ask you a question. So you were born when you were born and you're growing up your Fort Worth, right? Yes Southside as a kid eight nine You just always wanted to be cribbing. Well, actually, no, so um During them stages. I don't even know what the crib was, but I always had it in me I just what didn't know what it was. You know, how old were you when you say, okay? I want to say I brought it out like around 16 15 Why you just so what happened was is I just happened to be around other crib friends Remember I told you about the other crib, right? So I was hanging around the other crib friends and they was banging crib, you know saying on crib this on crib They seem cool. It's cool to do that. You know, like that's the end thing to do So if you're not seeing on crib on blood on a gang, then you're not cool You're not you're not that that nigga. You're not that girl You know, so you have to be doing some type of gang related activity in order to be a good person or a person That is that person in the industry or whatever it has to be in order to be accepted.   I ain't heard. Nobody's do that. Well, then again, you got to understand that They're they probably not they probably not a you know a crib.      Okay, so With my situation of being gay and how I started five six years old by three three Okay, go ahead. We can even go as far as back as three years. Okay. Go ahead. I knew Now I Let me just let you know. I was molested I'm male. I'm by male but I know I was, uh About I believe somewhere around 1112. Okay But let me just let you know that before I was even molested.  What are you talking about? Oh, that's where you're wrong. Okay, definitely do You know when you start saying stuff like What's that? What's this?   Okay, but during that time you're learning Okay, you're learning while you're learning Is a type of action When you able to do stuff like that you able to know so learning is what teaches you to know Go ahead. What's your father in the household? He was in and out So you were raised by a single mom. I was raised by my mother. Uh my my um Dad Was doing the thing to where he was still trying to get back with my mom after she left him So they tried to do the whole little let's work out the family to for the baby. So he was present Yeah in and out But not active You know, so but that's not what played a part in my okay being gay I knew at those early stages that I was not going to be with a woman Like I already knew because my they was they'll teach you they'll say Well, you're supposed to be with a woman. Yeah, you you see that? Oh, look at the magazine with your little girlfriend. You know, that's when your granny's in the auntie, right? You know, they start playing But I'm knowing in my mind like you asked me where my girlfriend at You need to be asked me where's my boyfriend at like, you know, because during those early stages I knew that's what you was thinking. Yes But I didn't want to say that Because if you say it wasn't normal, it's not normal because all my other uncles cousins and stuff They have their girlfriends wives and stuff like that. Nobody actually had a Boyfriend. So you didn't see that around you, right? But I knew it around But do you not think that it was because of the the missing Element of your father being in the whole not absolutely not if the father would have been in the home It might have been different it's nothing that no one can do to People can only tell you their opinions and they could tell you how things are supposed to be Which I feel like nothing is supposed to be anything. I feel like the goal in life is to try to be happy I don't feel like there's no right or no wrong. You just got to be happy If you doing was making yourself happy then you doing was right. Let me ask you this question Okay, and this is The way how I question I question things that I know that everybody else probably thinking But some people scared to ask So you believe in god do okay, you read excuse me I do believe in god, but I've had other things come in my life that has Question that's made me question. Okay, which a lot of people that's right normal normal. Um You read the bible for yourself before Okay, of course everybody knowing the big in the beginning of the bible Talk about you know reproduction right talk about man and woman. So when you see those things in the bible What is your perception on that About as far as like how the bible says that you're not supposed to be you know, you're supposed to like a woman Okay, so the bible says that god makes no mistakes So if god makes no mistakes then actually A mistake is not actually a mistake. A mistake is normal So you can't say that being gay was um because if that's the case then god do make mistakes But it specifically says god don't make mistakes So everybody has their own free will to do what they want to do But also being gay. I want to express. It's not a choice. It's a given so that's just like If can I ask you you you like just only me and right, right? Okay, so nobody can come and say Like this woman there's no way for you to physically scientifically Spiritually physically be able to do that because that's not who you are right So if somebody comes and say tony. No, this is not right. You have to start talking to a woman I won't be able to do that. I could maybe act on it But I wouldn't be able to connect in that type of way You know, I believe that everybody goes through things for a reason, right?  He said god don't make no mistakes He put us through certain things so that we can overcome our adversaries Adversaries to be able to help others to be able to move forward with their lives into victory But again when I think about back in the days, you know God destroyed salam and gamara because of things that they were doing that yes He had to do that. So when we look back on the bible and see oh, he did that because they were doing this We're still using that as an example. Although. They're not here to say we don't need to be doing that too So do you believe in um generational curses and things of that nature? I do, but I believe that you can break it Right, okay. Let me say this. I don't want to cut y'all off But I want to tell you anyway, you know god loves you no matter who you are no matter what you're doing No matter where you at.  I just know that everybody's evolving You know what I mean? So that's a that's the only I do know so I don't really put people in boxes You know what I'm saying? I just think that everybody's good And I think that's where people really mess up when because I don't want to try to tell nobody What they can and cannot do I would never do that. But at the end of the day I just know god loves you where you because he made you I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? That's it. That's all I care. I definitely appreciate that and I feel like that um If everything happens for a reason like you said, you know, he came right, you know And it's about don't come back. So, you know, but I feel like everything that is going on right now is a part of a plan so if No sin is supposed to be bigger than the other.   And for your sins, right? And then what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to pray for forgiveness because I know What I'm what I do is wrong Anything I do more than just be gay.   So you didn't have no other choice. Didn't have no choice. Then friends was crips out.  So I know that Raymond Uh Isn't that I forgot his last name. I think it's Raymond Washington and stanley Something took it. Yeah, there we go. So they're the founders of the crib So mind you all Crip is was just a Gang of people that came together for protection against other people.  So that's all it is What does it mean if that's the case then you say that lgbtq is a game you could say that You know all this stuff that people coming out with these organizations You could say that's a game The only thing is we're creeping blood and I was against the shit is that you add in the shooting and the And the drugs and the putting in working the hood and all the other types of stuff I don't feel like That well, actually, you know, it is what makes you more gangster, but that's because that's what the Strategic then made it, you know that that you are not a gangster unless if you done been a jail this many times Then been shot at then shots at stuff. How many times you been to jail? I've been a jail about 30 times I've been a jail for fraud. I've been a jail for organized crime. Yes. How old it started? Hold on. Hold on. Fraud fraud Can you it's the case still open because I don't want you to see it. Case closed. Could you explain to me what happened? I was going wild mart and I was loading up visa cards with other visa cards And putting the money onto those cards and withdrawing the money at atms I got caught and convicted. They had me on camera doing everything so I could talk better. I'll leave So That's what I was doing. So that was fraud. How old were you at that time? I was 21 How old were you when you got caught the first time? 21 that was my first. That was your first. Yes. That was my first time getting out How old are you now? 27. And you got 30 times between now and then? I started my first time going to jail was when I had a fight at 16. Okay. Uh-huh. I went to jail. I had a fight in the park went to jail uh Caught the uh Fraud case went to jail went back and forth the jail between step because I was on got put on probation violated like 10 times Then how would you how did you keep violating you kept stealing?  No, I wasn't stealing. I was going to fraud every time you go.   I had us but they caught my swipe card and everything.   No matter what it is shooting credit card Don't matter. So when you were doing all of this bad stuff you because you said you wanted to be a Crip when you Were 16 so you just started You know doing the bad stuff with going to jail you started going to jail So fight at 16, but then really did this at 21. So were you doing this purposely to Build up your repertoire a little of both a little of both because you got to do something bad Be a gangster and then on top of it. I was needing to make some money. So I didn't want to see a drug. I now did sell some drugs. What? Um The I was dating a blood actually, you know, yeah, I was dating and then it gets the rules Well, I don't I feel like that, you know Nowadays, you know, everybody's being cool with everybody. You see some straight niggas being cool with gate niggas Like and it don't be nothing.   So we cool.  No, they know when they see Tony. Oh, yeah, we he just by my presence. They just know. Oh, yeah, that's Tony. Yeah Oh, yeah, he official. He pressure.  It's in you So nobody has to question. Nobody got a wonder. They just gonna know when you walk in the room. Oh, yeah, that's a gangster And so nobody and the funny thing about so do you work like when you were a whole red outfit How's your wheel? I have I don't have no problem with I believe that so it's not problem Because you're cribbing you were blue. I got a red in my promotion picture. I know that but I'm just saying like Cause most Crips won't wear red No, they nowadays I feel like they will it's it's time to change I remember the old school you know old school people say y'all watering down the Crip Yeah, I mean but you got to get with the time zone. You got to get with the time. This a new generation, you know This is the time of coming together Bloods are hanging with Crips Crips is hanging with blood. You know I got a lot of blood friends then dated bloods.  When did you start rapping? How I started rapping in 2020?  She's a Crip And they was fighting they wouldn't find over no gangsta I mean no no street involvement stuff like shooting this and shooting that up But it was actually over a nigga, but she was a blood.  I filmed that music video with half pine films y'all familiar with him Yeah, yeah, he posed been here today. What? But he ended up he could come next week sometime, but don't don't trip So so the thing is like you basically Um What what do you say to people who say you just doing this just to be good to get seen? Well for one, uh, the song that I made Uh, was not even about Crip nothing gangster nothing.  That's the name of my song. I just came out with it's basically it's for women I'm more pro women than I am anything. So the I have a high female fan base So I made the song for my fans about if they going through a relationship problems And I started a whole movement.  I put the Crip shit in there You know and that part it's always the part that you don't even think on don't even have no idea It's gonna get a lot of attention to get a lot of attention and it's just so having that part got all the attention And what's the attention? What did everybody say about it?  He's talking about a nigga in the song.  But you know You know, yes, we do that.   But do they mean that? No, okay I'm gonna walk right past them.  Absolutely not. They shook my hand and was like, yeah That's Tony motherfucking weird. So it's like they just respect you when you come in the hood Yeah, my home girl Robin just called her Crip X and uh Confirmed that it's okay. She asked him. What type of what type of Crip is Tony? Is it okay for Crip? He's not laughing He cool with it. He's so people just keep affirming that it's okay And he's a certified people that these are certified people and the more these people do that the more it makes Okay for what i'm doing and but is that only okay for for worth because everybody know you and you That's where you're born and raised. Have you ever you've been to la? I have I've been to Compton and They know have you went over there and be like, yeah, I'm a great.  Okay, uh, I was there around the edd times Remember the edd. Mm-hmm and everybody was doing that. Mm-hmm. Not saying I was doing that, but you know, um I went and knocked on somebody door because I had some mail that I had got accidentally sent to their address And I was like, oh, I need this mail.     So And they didn't say nothing.  They gave me my motherfucking mail Wow, I got back in the corn draw file. Hmm. And they was cool with it Okay, so you tell me this happened in california that you were creeping Compton california and you approached the door And somebody and you straight up banged on them banged on they door and he mentioned Banged on them Open this door And and they gave you a mail and what they gave me my mail was not no problem. They was happy to give me my mail So that's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day I don't know like like man, it looked like it looked like you you are here So you you going back to cal anytime soon? I have a Vlad had posted me so we're trying to lock in with them so I can get Go out there and you know chop it up with them and they in LA Wow, so you and so you do you think they'll embrace you the the crib nation because everybody's going to be seeing these interviews Yeah, well Like I said in them comments Keep the queue in person In the comments do what you do. He don't care about the comments.   And that's just what it's going to be Wow You got you you got a song caught with with head honcho Okay, yeah, yeah No, no, that's a fight with head honcho and tony weirdo.   Like when you actually there to see the fight I won But on the phone it just looked bad. It just looked bad on the phone I was really like up a cup of the camera didn't see this home over there That was all that they was recording on the on the right. I'm over here with this left on punching them over here They didn't see that they they didn't see that they missed that left They missed that left his whole side his face was swallowed up and everything So it looked like I got beat up because they was recording on this side and you weren't swallowed.  Yes That's all you do is fight.  So the first time I came out with this information was in 2020 when I came out with my first song Remember the I guess she mad song I told you about and I said something about uh Yes, it is true. I am a crib. I'm rocking blue. No capping my drip south sahoo, but I am a gangster You ain't no rapper. You just a capper.   I mean have you ever dealt with Charleston white? I have not dealt with him But we have gotten into a social media Confrontation confrontation. Yes and um, it was because um, I actually Was doing a podcast in my home city TMSMO Is what I called the podcast and we my team hadn't reached out to Charleston white And tried to get him to come be a part of the podcast So we signed everything, you know Chopped it up on the phone talked to his management team But then he called one day. It was like, I want to talk to Tony I answered the phone And he said, hey, how you doing? I'm like, hey, what's going on? What's going on Charleston?   I'm uh, what am I doing with a pump?    That's why you said about him calling the police He was threatening to call the police on me saying I'm gonna report you for doing fraud and scamming and all those other types of Like I'm already convicted for that. It's nothing you could do.   Absolutely not.  He was ordering a two piece two piece dark You sure got a lot of information he was next to him listening to his order.  Who and I can't tell you that that's the only I know I told y'all that we can talk about anything, but I don't want to out nobody, you know, I'ma let you down low right now He's down low. Okay, but I've also dated uh, uh two bloods this in the gang affiliated area very heavy and I dated one rapper and It was fun and all the guys that you dated are they down low Everybody was down low except one person and that was my longest relationship for eight years He was an openly person, but I blast his ass You know, I the only reason I blasted him was because This was back when I was young and I used to do stuff like that But when I became older and started dating other people and was more mature. I don't do that.  And you know, I told myself that after I got out of the relationship with the last down low person I got to and told myself I was not going to talk to nobody no more undercover men because If you still messing with men and then you also messing with women, that's how diseases and stuff gets spreaded I don't agree with that You know, and we trying to move into this new better world and all the stuff going on They come out with it It's you know, all this stuff like I'm not trying to support no bad habits You know, because they don't do nothing but just spread diseases and stuff Are you've never been attracted to a female ever Have not I'm never like even one No, now I didn't had oral with another female and I didn't like it And when she did that Shit, I just did not like I like the feeling of nothing.  Oh, well see he said it was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he been here.  He said because of him. He's a super Crip. Yeah And that might be my new rap name super Crip Wow You know, I can say I don't know how how you know blue is in the rainbow So that's even more. Okay.  It's blue in there Damn It's just so much. It's too much to even handle like so What are you? What's the music going to be? What's the next uh, uh project that that's coming?  I don't let's don't be This is straight up going to be by Cripps. It's just about everything that basically everything I just told you about me coming up and all that stuff. That's what it's gonna be about I'm gonna do a music video to it.  We're gonna record the music video and after that I'm gonna be done Then I'm just gonna wrap back other stuff I'm gonna wrap back regular stuff. I'm gonna be ain't gonna get y'all no more Cripps stuff Wow, so I know Kenny B was uh gonna bring you uh Over here the day y'all got uh Detained and arrested and all kind of stuff. Um Is he home? He will be Monday.  I don't know if that was recent or old It might have been old, but I know he he definitely strong on somebody and I was like man I hope that's old. You know, I'm saying yeah Because he ain't been well. No, he has been in trouble, but I didn't know about him having no final He was about to fight a lot of times, but I have not been there with him actually having a fight now When he gets out of jail this time, he's gonna get back on his rapping stuff. We not he's he's not doing no more, you know I'll let gangsta stuff like okay. Yeah, it's cool. But it's time to put that on pause for a little bit So we focus on the music, you know, because that's what's important. That's what's gonna bring in the money You was in the drugs no mom. Yeah, you was in the car with him when he went to jail I was I was saying he went live and it was like I was waiting on him to get here Uh We was almost here. We 50 minutes away from Fort Worth about almost our and we pulled in the kfc Because I was just hungry. We we could have pulled in here But be glad we didn't come here because they would have came and got us from here.   Mm-hmm. I thought it was gonna be Dallas police. It was Fort Worth police They stopped but what did they say to you though when they hold on what did they say? They said tony Get out the car. They knew my name. I don't know your name. I guess they watched the tony show. I don't know They they got out that muffin car. They pulled out guns I was waiting for the dogs the canines everything I knew a tank was gonna pull up next because a helicopter They was everywhere. The police was out covered the whole kfc Kfc could have catered to us and cooked everybody some chicken and like it was just too much I just I I didn't know what was going on. I was scared. I was panicking and you know And I'm used to stuff like this. Did you have to get on the ground? I personally didn't have to get on the ground Kenny b and his friend did because they was being disrespectful to the police.  I ain't cussing no police out Now that's the one thing I am scared of the police So I followed instructions. I got out of the car. I co-operated. Yes, sir. No, sir. You know, I wouldn't finna get treated like Yes, ma'am. No ma'am because it was a bit of a scope. I'm not supposed to be disrespectful to the police but it was a woman police and she uh She took my hands and put me in them handcuffs. But meanwhile, can you be in them face? Grand face to the ground foot on the neck like Make what's his name that past? Oh, George Floyd. George Floyd I thought that was gonna be another George because he he was just being so disrespectful to the police. I was like, yeah I can't do that. I'm gonna be nice and I got treated so good by the police They put me in in the car with the air conditioning and checking on me. You okay, baby. Yes. I'm like, okay. Okay It's okay. We'll be we're gonna let you go in a minute. I'm like, okay Man, did you ever did you get to take the car right away? Or did they uh, the police got in my car and drove it Out the line I'm looking because they're blocking the line. Yeah, I'm it's other cars behind us. I'm looking I'm like if they just get in my car Did y'all steal my car like what is this? Is this a setup? Like am I going to jail or like what's going on? All of this should have been on social media summer because the cars behind what should have been would have been video In the whole thing. I mean, I did see other people video and stuff But I think there's a lot of other videos and I ain't leaked yet or god. I'm probably coming soon But yes, it was very scary Like it was you know, and I didn't been through this before but I'm not trying to get through into the ground And I was I know to be respectful to the police that's that's it.  Wouldn't they be out of jurisdiction because they're coming all the way from Forth and they're in Dallas County Man, let me tell you something them folks work together man All these folks work together. It's a blue coat. So you can do whatever they had they vest on They was ready. I was like, you know, if y'all just knew we nothing do nothing Just tell y'all y'all coulda came with one car And took that one person to jail and let me drive home Wow, let me ask you about we had another you you're my third gay guest You know, I I never thought I would even interview but I have to be unbiased You know, I'm definitely not homophobic But I definitely never seen me interviewing Uh, it's not different. Yeah, it's different.  I know who gut a k is gut a k and me He knows me.  You did. Mm-hmm. How did you know I heard through the grapevine for real? Yes, and you know, I actually you know wanted to come up here and chop it up with him, you know See if he remembered me What happened? How do how would he remember you? How do you even know you? Oh He knows exactly who I am.  How did he how did he get that? So, um Outside of my rap career and everything I do I feel my reality show um in Fort Worth and my team had reached out to gut a k to Uh, ask him to like come do a part in and he was also supposed to bring his friend shamar How long ago was this? This was about four or five months ago. Okay. Uh, y'all feel familiar with shamar the Little crooked little k Shape fellow They were you know friend their friends or whatever and I asked them to come And be a part of my stuff that I had going on So, you know, we booked him and everything got everything signed and he never showed up and he never sent his uh payment back And I just feel like that was so um professional I feel like that that's not good for the industry and I feel like if you're doing that and you're gonna be in this Type of business then you don't need to be in this type of business So that's for everybody that's planning on booking him, you know, he ran off with that thousand dollars So just be careful for how much you booked him for Wow I never would have thought that because it seemed like he had a pretty good career going with the zoos tv and the boys What is that? Yeah, but everything Everything that looked good. So, I mean you have a tv show What's the name of your tv show the name of my network is called tony We were networking the name of the show is called tony's cabaret Now we getting ready to change that name because it don't it don't fit with what we did turned into something else We thought it was going to be about a bunch of strippers, but it turned to being missed drama and fights And relationship problems and stuff like that like all these realities tz shows and Next season we're going to change the name to tony's toxic drama and t Um, and it's just going to be about all of the toxic and drama and mess that I'd be where do you put this out at? It's on an app called tony wheels network twn Uh, you go on the app store you can download and watch all my shows And we also have the reunion that's getting ready to come out. Do you get views? It does Uh, we we live stream it also On tony we were's network facebook page every monday and we do anywhere from 2k to 3k streaming live at the same time And um, it it does really good And I see it really doing, uh 10 times better next season because we've made the mistake So we know what not to do next time to make it even better We got a reunion that's getting ready to come out and We got a surprise for the reunion y'all want to tune in to the reunion. Well, I just want to say well first of all Let me ask you your top three, uh Artists of all time dead or live any genre. Okay, and uh, any any gay?  You tripping. Okay, my bad any rapper a lot Anybody not just gay.  Okay. It's everybody. Okay the world I just universe. Yeah Two pot Two pot get number one why number two? Oh, uh, he had Well for one he didn't done some extravagant stuff like okay. He faked the deal Then, you know, he made like del. Yeah, thank you. He's still alive Oh He Went back to whatever planet. He came down here from You know that a lot of you know y'all got on y'all start getting into stuff. Y'all gotta start researching stuff I'm telling y'all.  So it's you know, he he's he's still alive. He's just not here So you're never gonna see him, but he's still out there Wow number two Number two Number two That's what you're asking me. Uh, number two artist. Can it be a girl? I don't care anybody Beyonce Okay, you love Beyonce.  Yes What do you like about Beyonce, uh, she just had the best songs um She like any that's just who you go to like when you think of the industry like you're gonna It's gonna be I say it's always gonna be in the list of anything. She didn't be in movies May song. She didn't do hip hop. She didn't work with damner. Everybody Beyonce. She could dance Didn't had to I don't sing a lot like like I I still be singing that song Uh, uh, soldier don't want to stand up for me Oh Number three Greatest artists of all time Michael Jackson Got it.   You got to at least have something to bring to the table Wow, especially when you be in to see because I'm I'm on the feminine side See, I don't have to bring nothing to the table when a man say what do you bring to the table? Nothing? Me You supposed to bring everything to the table if you asked me to bring something to the table I'm gonna it's gonna be another man And that's not gonna ask me to bring nothing to the table so And that's just that Wow, thank y'all man. Um Looking forward to the new music man, and uh, like I told you before man, I don't of course I might not feel the same way you do about the lifestyle you chooses But I'm I'm open to whatever god is going to do in your life. I told you that earlier That's the way I look at it. I'm not for the being here trying to criticize nobody I'm not for the being here trying to tell you you can't you can't do this It's just like anything else. It'd be like me telling anybody whatever But I am gonna say, you know, everybody keeps evolving right everybody keep growing right keep you How do you again 27 by the time you turn 37 it'll be a whole different ball game No matter how you look at right take it from a older cat, right, you know I appreciate it. I appreciate it. But I can't wait to see what come with your career and everything Right. Oh, I'll be back Yeah, I want well when the show when the show get buzzing and hot you'll be back here in a minute anyway From the end of the video today. I'm pretty sure you'll be back pretty quick. You know So check it man. Hey man. Thank you. We love you bro. All right. Thank you. Thank you for coming on the show It's been Tony will rich Cripp turn around a crib weird is bitch. That's what it is.