Good morning, welcome you to the session of fluid machines. Today we will be discussing the flow and energy transfer in a centrifugal pump, flow and energy transfer in a centrifugal pump, similar way we discussed in case of turbines. Well in the last class we discussed the head developed by a pump, that means the head or the energy which has been gained by the liquid while flowing through a pump, which is the difference between the total energy or total head at inlet to the pump and the total head or the total energy at its outlet. So, the energy at the outlet is more than that at its outlet and the difference between these two, that means the energy at the outlet of the pump and the energy at the inlet to the pump is the head developed by the pump, that means this is the energy that the fluid gains from the rotor of the pump. Now today we will be discussing the shape of the rotor or the different components that a centrifugal pump has. We have also discussed last class that a radial flow pump, where the flow is radially outward because of the obvious reasons that fluid flowing through it gains in centrifugal head is known as centrifugal pump. This radial flow pump is known as centrifugal pump. So, today we will see the different components of a centrifugal pump. Please come to this diagram. Here we see that a centrifugal pump has got three important components. One is the rotor, one is the volute casing, rather I will write in the sequence, one is the rotor blades, rotor, rotor of the pump which is the moving part which is known as impeller. This is the terminology impeller, impeller. In case of pump the rotor is known as impeller. In case of turbine you know the rotor which is the rotating part of the machine is known as runner. In case of a pump the rotor is known as impeller. Next is the guide vanes, guide vanes or stator, stator. Next is the volute casing, volute casing. These three components are the important components or these three components comprises a centrifugal pump. Let us look into this diagram. This is of a centrifugal pump, centrifugal pump. Three components, rotor that is the moving part of the pump known as impeller, then guide vanes or stator, guide vanes or stator vanes, then volute casing. Now, see that two pictures here that here if you see that this is the rotor, this part is the rotor, this part is the rotor. Rotor consists of a solid disc which is key to a shaft and the mechanical energy is imparted on it which rotates with an angular velocity, constant angular velocity. So, this rotor consists a number of curved blades as you see here which is attached to the face of the disc, solid disc and stands like that these are the curved vanes and these forms the typical passages, passages, vanes passages or blade passages through which the fluid flows. So, after this rotor the fluid comes next to the guide vanes or stator vanes. There is a ring of guide vanes and stator vanes. You see these are the guide vanes or stator vanes. After leaving from guide vanes or stator vanes, it comes to a typical spiral casing or the volute chamber. It is same as that of a Francis turbine. It is just in the reverse order to that of a Francis turbine. The fluid flows through this and ultimately comes to the delivery end. Now, these blades of the rotors are sure shaped that it while the fluid flows through it, it gives a diverging area. That means the cross sectional area increases which means when the fluid flows through this rotor blade or vanes passage, the fluid gains in pressure also, static pressure. That means the relative velocity of the fluid while flowing through the blade passages decreases because of the increasing cross sectional area. Therefore, the static pressure of the fluid increases due to that. Again since it is a radially outward flow that means fluid while flowing through the rotor blade passages increases its centrifugal head. That means this is such that the radius from the axis of rotation is increasing in the direction of flow. The fluid gains in centrifugal head for which also the static pressure of the fluid changes. Therefore, the fluid comes out at from this place with high velocity and high pressure. Now, the blades of these rotors are sometimes attached to small plates at these tips to give shrouded blades. These blades are known as shrouded blades which are attached to small plates at the tip. It is made free. That means the tips are not attached to plates. That means the blades are not shrouded. The advantage of having shrouded blades is that it prevents the flow from leaking from one passage to another blade passage so that the blades are shrouded. Now what is the function of this diffuser or guide blades? This is sometimes known as diffuser. Best term is diffuser. You can write here diffuser, diffuser blades. It is a better term instead of guide vans. You can write diffuser vans or diffuser blades. Now the purpose of diffuser blade is to convert just the reverse of a turbine to convert the kinetic energy or the velocity of the fluid in terms of the pressure energy. That means to convert the velocity into pressure. That means these fixed blades, these are the guide blades or these are the diffuser blades, these are fixed blades. And when the fluid flows through this passage of fixed blades or diffuser blades, it is similar to the flow through a diffuser. That means it is flowing through a fixed duct of increasing cross sectional area so that the velocity of the fluid which was very high at the outlet from the impeller is gradually decreased and the pressure of the fluid gradually increases. Well, so after that it comes again in a spiral casing where we see that while the fluid flow takes place in the direction of the flow, the cross sectional area of this casing is increasing. So, that when the fluid comes at this end that is the delivery end, final delivery, final delivery. This is connected to delivery pipe. This is connected to delivery pipe, final delivery fluid is having a very high pressure instead of having a very high velocity. You know already we have discussed earlier that in a pump or a compressor the stored energy in the fluid remains in terms of the pressure energy. That means the fluid at the outlet of a pump or a compressor is at higher pressure, but at a lower velocity. That means a pump or compressor is a machine which delivers fluid at high pressure, but not at high velocity. So, just in contrast of a machine known as fan or a blower we have discussed earlier where the fluid comes out with higher velocity rather than a higher pressure. That means at a lower pressure, but at a higher velocity. So, therefore what happens the fluid gains its energy from the rotor. So, at the end of the rotor the fluid is having its total energy which she has taken from the or which has been imparted by the rotor, but this energy is in the form of pressure energy and the kinetic energy. So, the kinetic energy at the outlet is being converted into pressure energy that means the kinetic energy is reduced and pressure energy is increased. This conversion takes place in the diffuser vanes which forms the converging passages in the direction of the flow. This is made by placing different blades in a ring known as diffuser blade rings and also by a chamber known as volute chamber is a typical spiral casing which gives an increasing flow area in the direction of the flow. So, the function of the diffuser blades and the volute casing is to convert the velocity of the fluid into pressure or to convert the kinetic energy of the fluid into pressure energy. In some cases the pumps are available without the diffuser vanes they consist of a impeller this is the impeller and a volute casing. So, therefore they are the action of diffusion that means the conversion of kinetic energy to pressure energy or the deceleration of the flow with the increasing pressure is done only in the diffuser chamber or the volute casing. So, this is volute casing you can this is volute casing I think this letters are small this is volute casing this is the rotor this is the this is the rotor this is the rotor well and this is the diffuser or guide diffuser diffuser blades diffuser blade ring alright. So, this is a pump without diffuser and this is a pump with diffuser usually the blades with a ring this is known as diffuser here this is there is only a volute casing which is also acting as a diffuser, but the common terminology diffuser is used with this ring of fixed diffuser blades. So, these are the main components of a centrifugal pump. Now, the centre of this rotor is known as I or the impeller is known as I of the impeller I of the impeller I of the impeller this centre of this impeller is known as I of the impeller well. So, the liquid is drawn at the centre or I of the impeller the inlet pipe is axial that means it is parallel to the direction of the axis of the rotation. So, therefore, the inlet to the pump is almost axial with a very little tangential or whirling component of velocity. Now, if we come to a to the velocity tangles or to the pump impeller blade diagrams then we see that this is now the exaggerated view of the impeller this is the impeller root this is the impeller tip and this is these are the typical curved blades this is the impeller disc. Now, the blades are designed in such a way that the fluid which comes. So, this is the blade passage. So, we have seen by the broken line as the representing line of the motion of a fluid element fluid flows through this passage between this blade passage. So, therefore, you see that at any point the fluid is drawn in such a way it has got a very less tangential component whirling component I will explain why it is done. So, this figure you cannot see this figure I am drawing here well drawing it here well well this is your v 1 this figure I am drawing it again this is your v r 1 well let this is the blade. So, this is the inlet well this is your flow velocity v f 1 well this is beta 1 this is beta 1 this is beta this is alpha 1. Now, there is no guide vanes at the inlet before the rotor like a turbine fluid is directly drawn through an axial pipe at the impeller I.  So, this is the angle alpha 1 that is the angle which the absolute velocity makes in the direction of the to the direction of the tangent. So, this is the relative velocity and this is the angle beta 1 that the relative velocity makes with the direction of the tangent. So, for a smooth shockless entry this beta 1 is the angle of the blade at this point that means angle of the blade at the inlet with the direction of the this is the this is this is moving like this. So, this is the u 1 well this is the moving with an angular speed omega. So, you understand this now the blade angle at the inlet is designed in such a way that when the liquid is drawn by the axial pipe at the impeller eye it gives a very negligible in theoretically it is designed in such a way that this tangential component at the inlet or wheeling component becomes zero. That means fluid enters purely in axial direction. So, the flow velocity here in axial direction. So, therefore, the inlet to this pump impeller is in axial tangential plane. That means it has got axial component and the tangential component axial component and the tangential component, but the tangential component is made very low and theoretically it should be made zero. The blade angle at the inlet is designed in such a way. So, that the fluid is drawn axially purely axial at the inlet.  Letters I will be writing do not worry letters I will be writing, but you see the triangle can you see. So, this is v r 2 this is ok. So, this is v 2 this is u 2. So, this is v w 2 then it is alright this is v f 2 this is v f 2. So, this is beta 2. So, this is alpha 2. Now, the outlet this is the relative velocity with respect to the blade and this angle is the angle that the blade make at the outlet with the direction of the tangent this is beta 2 this is a tangent here you can understand this is beta 2 and this is alpha 2 which is the angle made by the absolute velocity in the direction of the tangent this is the absolute velocity alright and this is the u. So, this is the u. So, therefore, this is the tangential component of the absolute velocity at the outlet v w 2 clear well. Now, if I write now, if I write the work head or the head imparted to the fluid by the rotor that head imparted by the rotor to the fluid sorry head imparted by impeller here that the rotor is impeller to the fluid that is equal to you know that v w 2 from your generalized equation v w 1 u 1 by g alright v w 2 u 2 minus v w 1 u 1 by g this is the work per unit weight or the energy per unit weight or head whatever you call imparted by the impeller that is the rotor of the machine to the fluid alright. Now, if we make v w 1 0 if we make the design in such a way that the fluid enters purely axial then this becomes the maximum if you have to ask anything please ask me please any question please ask me any question if you have got any query you ask me this diagram last diagram yes where you cannot understand this is the inlet velocity triangle this is the inlet velocity absolute velocity v 1 is very simple this is the typical velocity triangle we have discussed so many times. So, this is the velocity tangential velocity of the rotor at inlet this is the relative velocity with respect to the blade. So, this angle coincides with the angle of the blade at the inlet. So, this is u 1 and this is the tangential component of the velocity in practice a little amount of tangential component is present. So, fluid cannot enter a liquid cannot enter purely axial, but a theoretical diagram will be like this just the reverse of a Francis turbine that I will tell you now that it is u 1 that is v r 1 and that is v f 1 which is nothing, but the axial velocity that means fluid is drawn purely axially without any tangential component of velocity is very clear why you cannot understand I do not know this simple thing. So, this is the outlet velocity triangle where this is the velocity relative to the blade at the angle beta 2 with the tangent is the angle of the blade at the outlet with the tangent this is the absolute velocity and this is the what is this this is the rotor velocity or the blade velocity at the tip. Now, you see therefore, the head imparted by impeller to the fluid is v w 2 u 2 by g well. So, when v w 1 is 0 this head imparted by impeller to the fluid is maximum. So, maximum head is imparted if it has got 0 tangential component of velocity. So, try to recall what happened in case of a Francis turbine in case of a Francis turbine the inlet angular momentum was maximum that means it has got a value v w 1, but v w 2 was made 0 in that case 2 extract the maximum energy from the fluid. So, here it is just the reverse another thing is very interesting in a Francis turbine what we had we had a radial and tangential inlet at radial and tangential flow at the inlet and the exit is purely axial exit is made purely axial. So, that it has got 0 tangential component well where the inlet is radial and tangential it is just the reverse in case of a centrifugal pump where the inlet is made purely axial theoretically at the design condition. So, that it has got 0 tangential velocities and ultimately when it flows through the impeller when it changes its direction in the radial direction through the blade passages and then it comes out with a velocity in the radial direction and tangential direction that means in a radial and tangential plane it is just the reverse of that Francis turbine.   So, this difference of these heads at outlet and inlet is the head developed by the pump. So, why this 2 are not equal this is the head imparted by the rotor due to its motion to the fluid flowing through it and this head is the head developed by the fluid that means this is the difference between the head at the final delivery point that means you can consider this at this point we have seen earlier that we have calculated the head at this point that is the inlet to the delivery pipe and h 1 is the head before entry to this point that is entry to the pump. So, why this head developed and this head imparted by the impeller to the fluid is not equal this is because of losses yes this is because of frictional losses fluid friction loss frictional losses by the fluid. That means it is the fluid that fluid frictional loss that is fluid frictional loss that means for an ideal fluid this could have been same for an ideal fluid where there was no frictional losses the head imparted by the fluid could have been the head contained in the fluid in this connection I like to tell you one thing that means this discrepancy between this 2 head developed and head imparted arises because of fluid friction whereas in turbine the head given up by the fluid and the head or the work developed by the runner is not the same or the head at the inlet to the fluid and the head or the work developed by the runner is not the same this is not because of fluid viscosity only this is because some energy is rejected or wasted just I tell I will explain you let me first tell you the definition of manometric efficiency a definition of now the ratio of this 2 is defined as manometric efficiency in case of a pump manometric efficiency eta m as this head h head developed is known as the manometric efficiency divided by v w 2 u 2 by g that means this head imparted by the fluid this discrepancy is taken care of by a manometric efficiency which is defined as the ratio of head developed by the pump divided by the head given up by the rotor to the fluid head given up by the rotor to the fluid so this is the definition of manometric efficiency so the manometric efficiency will be one in case of an ideal fluid well the manometric efficiency I can write is equal to one in case of an ideal fluid in case of an ideal fluid in case of an ideal fluid well whereas if you recall that in case of a turbine we define the hydraulic efficiency as the work developed by the runner divided by the head at the inlet head at the inlet that means head available at the inlet so head available at the inlet is numerator where the work developed by the runner do not consider the mechanical losses that is the work which the runner receives from the head available at the inlet that discrepancy comes because of the fact some head is always rejected at the outlet even with the with the incorporation of the draft tube we have to reject some head in the form of kinetic energy or if there is no draft tube the pressure at the outlet of the runner for a reaction turbine may be higher than the atmospheric pressure so pressure head also the energy comprises pressure head also so some amount of energy is rejected so even if the fluid is ideal if you define a hydraulic efficiency by the term that the ratio of the work developed by the runner divided by the head available at the inlet to the runner will be always less than 1 because of the energy rejection at the outlet of the runner even if the fluid is ideal but in case of a pump if you see this manometric efficiency becomes less than 1 this is because of the fluid viscosity now overall efficiency is defined as the numerator remains the same that means this is the energy developed by the pump so you better write in terms of the total energy then what you will have to do you will have to multiply with rho q g h well then what is the total this is the power that is the shaft power shaft power shaft power so g will not be there oh yes g will be there rho q g h so this is the total power developed by the pump that is the head developed g into rho into q divided by the shaft power that means shaft power is the primary input to the pump and this difference between the shaft power and the power or work imparted this is per unit weight basis by the impeller is taken care of the mechanical losses that is the bearing frictions and other frictions in the shaft coupling so therefore we can define a mechanical efficiency the mechanical efficiency which will be rho q into v w 2 u 2 that means this is the power that the impeller of the pump receives from the shaft power because of the mechanical losses losses due to mechanical friction in bearings and other mechanical attachments in the shaft coupling from where we can write that eta overall is equal to eta manometric into eta mechanical so overall efficiency is the manometric efficiency into mechanical efficiency well alright so the same way as we defined earlier also the difference between overall efficiency and the hydraulic efficiency and the mechanical efficiency the manometric efficiency is same as the hydraulic efficiency as we defined in case of turbines well now we will come to another phenomena known as slip is very important phenomena slip in a centrifugal pump slip in a centrifugal pump slip in a centrifugal pump ok what is this phenomena slip so what happens it has been found that in most of the cases or almost all cases under operation the velocity of flow coming out of the pump changes its direction for which the pump has been designed so pump blades has been designed within a range of operations that for a certain direction of the flow velocity at the outlet and accordingly the head developed and the working parted by the pump impeller to the fluid are calculated but it is found that the direction of the flow velocity changes at the outlet from that on the basis of which the pump was designed why it happens so let us see here a diagram I think this better you can this is this dotted one is ideal diagram let me first this one is actual you please draw the diagram this is v 2 this is dotted you can see the dotted one this I am showing you all right it is ok no I am sorry you cannot see that this is ok this is ok this is ok this is this is the faint one this is the bold one this is the continuous ok all right ok this is ok so now what happens that the fluid this bold one this one is the actual velocity this is v r 2 this is v r 2 this is u 2 this one actual this is v r 2 this is v r 2 this is bold one is actual bold one is actual all right bold one is actual ok now I write this again here so that I draw this again here this is the bold one so this is v 2 this is v r 2 all right so this is this is v f this is v r 2 this is v r 2 this is v r 2 this is v r 2 and this is the ideal one that means this is the ideal one this is ideal v 2 this is ideal v r 2 so u is this u is in both the cases u remains the same u 2 well u 2 remains the same in both the cases u 2 but what is the difference you see this changes the direction in such a way that the absolute velocity v 2 this is the ideal one but actual one it shifts in this way such that it makes a reduction in the actual it makes a reduction in the tangential component of velocity let v 2 w 2 is the ideal in ideal case this is the tangential component of velocity now the actual tangential component is v w 2 dash this one ok v 2 v 2 v 2 v w 2 dash this one this is smaller than this one which one perpendicular is all right this is the v 2 this is the v 2 this is v w 2 so this is the v w oh sorry I am sorry I am sorry I am sorry this is ok all right all right sorry all right very good so this is the v so ok it is all right that the actual case the v w 2 dash is less than v w 2 all right I am sorry here it is clearly shown this is the the here all right v w very good I am sorry if I see the mistake I am sorry so this is the you can make it by yourself this is the tangential component of velocity and this is the tangential component of velocity in the actual case so therefore we see the tangential component of velocity in actual case becoming less than that in theoretical case so therefore sleep is a phenomena by which now this is a gross observation that the velocity of the fluid at the outlet from the impeller blade is shifted in such a way that it gives rise to a lesser value in the tangential or whirling component of velocity this is v w 2 dash then in its ideal value ok I think it is ok all right why it is so now if it does so where do we loss please tell me where do we loss if it does so the less work is being transferred to the fluid by the rotor so less work is being transferred to the fluid by the rotor then for which it is designed so why it is so which is very important it is so this is because that when the fluid flows through these blade passages then what happens there are two phases one is the leading phase another is the trailing phase of the blade you understand this is a blade so when the fluid flows past this leading phase what happens the flow is decelerated and pressure is high relatively high so this is shown by the plus sign while the fluid flows through this trailing phases the fluid is accelerated because of the typical curvature of the blade and the pressure is relatively lower the same reasons for which the lateral forces are generated or lift is generated because of this curvature in the blade the leading side pressure becomes high the fluid is decelerated while in the trailing side the pressure becomes low the fluid is accelerated so because of this difference in pressure what happens the circulation loop around the blade this is the circulation can you read this circulation a circulation that means a circulatory flow takes place around each blade a circulatory flow takes place a circulatory flow takes place around each blade a circulatory flow takes place around each blade so therefore what happens this circulatory flow disturbs the radial flow the radial flow through the blade passages. So, as a result what happens a terrific non-uniformity in the radial flow velocity takes place because at the beginning we told that on an average we assume the flow is uniform as far as this variation in the blade passage that means the radial flow velocity that is the main direction of flow velocity, but it becomes a non-uniform of this type one can see this this is a non-uniform this is the distribution a non-uniform distribution well. So, because of this the velocity vector changes. So, it changes in a way that it reduces the wheeling component of velocity at the outlet that means v w 2 dash which is the actual wheeling component of velocity becomes less than this. So, this difference here it is clear. So, this difference that means this difference that means this one this one this one this difference that means this is can be written as delta v w that is is equal to v w 2 that from ideal and this is actual this is known as slip. So, slip is quantified by this difference in the wheeling component of velocity at the outlet that means the ideal minus the actual this difference. So, this is the from here to here this is the ideal this is the actual. So, this difference here also you see this is the ideal and this is the actual. So, this difference is the slip and a parameter defined as which is very important slip factor just to be known and is symbolized by a common nomenclature as sigma it is the ratio of the actual wheeling component of velocity by the ideal. So, in terms of the slip factor now we can write actual work head imparted by the rotor by the rotor to the fluid fluid becomes equal to we know that v w 2 this is from the design conditions we know that this is the value where v w 2 is the wheeling component of velocity at the outlet from the ideal velocity triangle for which the blades have been designed. So, if you know the slip factor then we can multiply it to find out the actual work head it is the ratio of the. So, in practice what happens the slip factor values are provided usually it lie between 0.85 2.9. So, therefore variation is very less for different type of pump impellers in the usual range of operation. So, therefore if these values are there in our hand or you can take some approximate value in this range and multiply it. So, therefore actual work head imparted by the rotor to the fluid is multiplied by sigma v w 2 u 2 by g. Now, here in this connection I like to ask you one question hello what you cannot understand v w 2 dash by v w 2. Yes ideal one is v w 2 very simple thing ideal one is v w 2 and the actual one is v w 2 dash which is less than this sigma is always less than 1. So, that is why it is written like that all right all right. So, this is the work head imparted now here another very important conceptual thing I like to tell you just I like I told you in case of hydraulic efficiency or that manometric efficiency that in case of an ideal fluid also the hydraulic efficiency is less than 1 well as the manometric efficiency will be 1. Here also another very important thing sometimes it may be ask that even if the fluid is ideal the slip phenomena occur the slip phenomena is not because of fluid viscosity. So, therefore this discrepancy of actual work head imparted by the pump to the fluid and that of the theoretical work head is because of the slip phenomena which is something related to the flow field that the pressure at the trailing edge becomes lower than that of the leasing edge of the cart blade and this is typical fluid flow phenomena which happens for both the cases of real fluid and ideal fluid. Because of which a circulation or recirculatory flow takes place within the blade passages and this recirculatory flow takes place both the cases of viscous fluid and the invisible ideal fluid, but the magnitude of the recirculatory flow or magnitude of the pressure difference which causes the recirculatory flow recirculatory flow may be different. So, therefore the slip amount of slip that is the difference between the wheeling component of velocities for actual and ideal cases or their ratio the slip factor may change. Nevertheless the phenomena slip will occur for which the work head imparted actual work head imparted will differ from that of an ideal that of the ideal work head imparted that of the ideal one even in case of an ideal fluid. So, it is not a consequence of fluid viscosity while this work head imparted is not manifested by an equivalent amount as the head developed by the fluid head developed by the fluid because of the fluid viscosity. So, if the fluid is ideal this work head imparted given by the slip factor times the v w 2 u 2 by g should come as an equal amount as the head developed. So, this thing should be made very clear all right well thank you today up to this any question well thank you.


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By the way, no, I don't think you can play Xbox on a laptop. I have a portable monitor to play Xbox on. But guess what? We can shattered it, dude. Completely shattered it. I have this like full on the go setup so I can keep making videos. And I just shattered that screen today. So that's great. This is one of the last few videos where Urban Meyers actually gonna be head coach. That makes me sad. First intent, I actually don't want my opponent knowing that I'm gonna abuse Vita Vaya because that usually doesn't work out. So I'm just gonna hit Metcalf underneath. I'm lagging like crazy. Stretch left, we're playing the Eagles here. Let's see what he's got. Oh my God, he was in the backfield. I'm gonna go right up the middle at him here. Decent blocking Vita Vaya finds two yards. Little roll out for Brady. Step up, Brady, truck him.  And then I'm going right back to hat back stretch. And we're just gonna pray that Vita Vaya can pick this up. Let's go, fourth and fourth. Get the edge. Yes sir, cut it up the middle. And he's across. I would be so mad as one ran hat back stretch. I'll be on fourth and fourth. I'm bringing us to the left side. Pick up that block. William Perry, we've got you right. And you ran through. Vita Vaya, right up the middle, hat back iso Vita Vaya. Let's see, block it. So we're gonna get through one and we do. Solid blocking, got the edge, getting side. His changing direction is actually really good. There it is. Yup, right through him again. That linebacker is gonna have a really bad day. Yup, he completely bit his user bit left side. And it leaves it wide open. That was his responsibility. I'll just give it to Vita Vaya anyway. Oh, he chucks one deep. Get sacked by Matt Milano. Could get a big stop here and get Vita Vaya right back on offense. Come on, man. Come on, man. Calling Audibles player. Oh, did I run commit? That's hotel wifi latency right there. I did not run commit. First in 10, three more rushes for 10 plus yards to activate freight train. I would really like to activate freight train today. I'm not gonna lie though. He's kind of loading up the box and his users on me. I'm starting to think these inside zones could be, yeah, these are gonna be massive against him. The air trucks taking me down 12 rushes, 76 yards and a touchdown. I'm going Vita Vaya here. Yes, sir. Gotta get through his user. Let's see what he's got. I kind of want to hit Darren Waller.  Why didn't you get off your block so easily? Vita Vaya is wide open to add a double team on that guy. Let's see what he's got. He might be running the ball. Yeah. He wants to give me a taste of my own medicine. Oh, same thing other side. Yeah, he's actually mad at me for running the ball so much. 10 to eight and I got to kick the ball back to him. I'm not too worried about his offense though, low key. I am on the wrong guy. I don't know if it'll matter. Get to him. No. Got him.  Couple underneath routes, a couple digs.  Yes. Oh, what? Oh, I played that perfectly. Ah! He wants a deep one. I don't know what he sees. Oh, wait, that's a penalty. Pick it off. Let's go. We get declined it. We get declined it. Let's go, great block. Oh my God. Pancake. Pancake. I almost could have picked six that. So we're gonna decline this penalty and I'm gonna take the ball. Let's go. Let's go. First and 10, I'm going inside zone. See if we pick him up. We do. We pick up his user. Does he bite? He does not. I gotta get through the user.  No, you didn't. My God. I'm so embarrassed for you right now. Money. Oh money. Touchdown to Deron of Waller. That's the Vita Vaya effect. That's what we call that right there. He thought for sure I was going back to Vita Vaya.  Right up the middle. Let's see it. 14 to 10. A minute left in the third quarter. Oh, no way. What are you doing? Wait, what? Okay, we're guessing pass. On top of it. Oh, I'm blitzing. Oh, okay. Good timing. Well, maybe not. If we can't get anything out of it. Dude, he's got to stick you with that running bag.  Oh, what? Is that God himself? Does he run the ball? Oh, he does. Bold. Oh, no. Clutch touchdown from the Eagles right there. Let's go Vita Vaya. Let's go get a game-winning touchdown Vita Vaya. First and 10, a little inside zone here. Beauty. Ooh, I didn't want to hit stick there because he's seen the hit stick so many times. Where is Vita Vaya? Why is Vita Vaya not running a route? Second and 20. That is so bad. Vita Vaya, I'm gonna need you here. Oh my God. Okay. That's depressing. If I was on a hotel Wi-Fi, I would wash this kid. Oh, this hurts. First and 10. Bowling drive. Go ahead and show Bowling, I'm fine with it. That literally went from like me going down for my game-winning drive to a strip fumble for six, a safety, and then a deep ball. Oh my God. Hey, see, this is what I'm here for. It's all I want. I like this inside zone here. Third and one. His users right there, but he can't get me. Dude, low key. We really had a very good running game. This is our final play of the game. Oh, the kick box. He's still going. He's still going. Vita, Vaya, no, don't run out of steam right now. Vita tackles through the leg. That's why we play the game out right there. I would have been so sad. As of right now, I'm actually not that sad anymore. Brady threw four for six and that's not a good game. I got washed, dude. I got flooded, whatever. I really don't care. 23 attempts, 189 yards, 8.2 average yards per carry, a touchdown, five broken tackles, 106 yards after contact, 220 pluses, and that beautiful run. And the game, if I didn't run out of steam, it was a touchdown also if I didn't do an extra air truck, but you can't blame him on hotel Wi-Fi. So every time I touch anything, it does it like three seconds later. 60 yard rush by Vita Vaya. This is the play that we topped this game off with. Jukebox to bust the ankles of the defender who is clearly gonna make the play. Broken, really broke two tackles right here. One, two, three, four, just chucked him. I was lagging like crazy right there too. Awesome game though. I mean, I saw average 8.2 per carry. Vita Vaya video, baby. That's exactly what you're here for. All right, boys, you're gonna see a lot more in the 1,000 pound backfield. So I'm gonna leave it at that. Also, I know this is an optimal lighting or conditions or Wi-Fi or anything. So hopefully the 1,000 pound backfield is done back in Michigan. But I love you had to get this out. Thanks for watching as always. And I'll see you guys in the next video. Peace.


Ladies and gentlemen by transcription we take you now behind the scenes of a police headquarters in a great American city We're under the cold glaring lights will pass before us the innocent the vagrant the thief the murderer This is the line up Things like this really I do you ever been in a line up before Miss Larkin? I should say not I feel like such a fool lieutenant. How long will it take? That'll depend in which line the suspect appears. Well heavens. Can't they put him in the first line or something? Well, maybe they will I want you to tell me Well That disinfectant I smell. Mm-hmm certainly strong Be glad when this whole thing's over. May I have your attention, please? You people out there on the other side of the wire in the audience room. May I have your attention, please? Thank you. My name is grab sergeant Matt grab. I'll explain the line up Each of the suspects you will see will be numbered. I'll call off a number their name and charge If you have any questions or identifications, please remember the number assigned to the prisoner as I call his name At the end of each line when I ask for questions or identifications call out the number If you're sure or not too sure of the suspect had him held The officers who took your name will assist you there seated among you The questions I asked these suspects are merely to get a natural tone of voice So do not pay too much attention to their answers as they often lie Bring on the line Alright keep it moving boys right over to the end of the stage Come on. That's right all the way over to the end Take your hands out of your pockets turn and face the front When I call your number, I want you to step out and talk up stand up straight Answer my questions of a good loud voice so the people in the back of the room can hear you When I ask you where you live, I want the address you slept that last night okay All right number one Connie Bush burglary Where do you live for 17 West 99 for how long since Tuesday where'd you live before that the white planes, New York? What do you do for a living Connie? I'm a wood finisher. You have a car. Yeah Well, what kind what color? 49 Chevy convertible blue Anyone with you when you were arrested? Yeah, Vivian Johnson. Have any weapons on you? No Alright number two Dale Gagan murder Where do you live Dale? Come on Darkers well a place on second street where they have rules. What's the number Dale? I don't know.  State correction home Bonneville Okay, Dale Number three cliff barry open charge Where do you live clip? Did you hear the question I heard it sergeant? I understand that I'm not compelled to answer your questions I'm not compelling you. I'm asking you to cooperate the questions you asked might intimidate me Look the public defender happens to be standing in the back of this room if I get out of line He'll let me know clip now. Come on. Tell the folks where you live. I can't see anything out there take my word for it I want to know where you live what kind of work you do who you were arrested with if anybody Whether you had any weapons or whether you own a car, okay? I'd rather not answer you sergeant Okay, number four Florian Barth for jury. Where's 16 47 Ray Street apartment 3. I'm a salesman. Well, thank you. Yeah No guns no car, okay, anything else you'd like to volunteer. No, I got my rights haven't we all Any questions or identifications? All number three out for me sergeant number three number four. That's him I think Florian bars. I'm not sure but I anyone else hold number four sergeant Yes, lieutenant that all Okay, Bob and Gigan stay here the rest of your back where you came from I'm not exactly sure but it certainly looks like where we'll find out. All right up to the center Florian Come on right out into the light That's it. Now do a quarter turn now a full quarter turn Hold it. Hold it sure looks like him from the side, too Could you ask him to say Chesapeake have him say Chesapeake Matt? All right, Florian. They want you to say Chesapeake. Yeah, Chesapeake About say it louder Chesapeake. What is this anyhow? Never mind. Could I hear him say? I've got to be in Cedar Rapids tomorrow night. Have him say I've got to be in Cedar Rapids tomorrow night Say I've got to be in Cedar Rapids tomorrow night. Well, I gotta be in Cedar Rapids tomorrow night Once more I got to be in Cedar Rapids tomorrow night any marks or scars on him sergeant Well, there's a mole on his left cheek, sir Turn your head here That's about it lieutenant almost like him. That's him lieutenant. That's the man who gave me that bum check Thought I was all finished and you are practically just want you to fill out a verification card Yeah Do you like it? Hmm? Do you like being a policeman? Oh, yeah I just fill out your name and address the date in the time Okay. Yeah, I think this has some ink in it This about uh, am I willing to appear in court? Yes in case there's a preliminary hearing You'd be asked to appear before a magistrate and testify at the same time we present the complaint Chances are you won't be called at all. Oh You'll probably wave his right and plead guilty from there on it'll go straight to superior court for decision Well, that's the way it works. That's the way it works Yeah, thank you. I want to thank you for coming down tonight, miss Larkin I know you took time off from your work to do it. We certainly appreciate it. Oh, it wasn't so bad as a matter of fact very interesting Besides, I should have my head examined for letting that guy give me a bad check Well, don't feel too badly a lot of people have been taken in just like you in the last three months It's been passing bad checks all over town Something like forty two hundred dollars worth last month alone what they all as dumb as I was Well nicely dressed man runs up a bill and wants to pay for it with a legitimate looking payroll check He has what seems to be proper identification and that's about it. You forgot that smile. He flashed around.  No, no, I've got my own car in the law Oh You know that old man in the lineup tonight the one up for murder I'm curious. Who'd he kill another old man? How beat him to death with a shovel You got an an argument over a game of checkers Sound world some world Good night. Good night Hi, man, I got a report from handwriting Mm-hmm Checks, huh? Mm-hmm Hey, Ben Molly sister's going to be in town this weekend. Which sister Nelly her youngest one You've never met her Ben. Is she from Muncie, too? Mm-hmm. She's been living in Detroit works for an advertising agency She's on her way to New York on business a coggers single. Oh Ben Molly asked me to ask you Nelly's a real nice girl, Ben. You like her honest you ever met her No, but I've seen pictures of her and Molly says she's Just in time I have a turn hello boss grab a chair. Thank you Well, Florian you've been identified You want to make a statement get this over with in a hurry.  I can explain anything you want to explain just ask me Okay, let's start with that nice apartment of yours. I'm a good salesman Not according to that sewing machine company. They say you hardly turn over one machine a month Yeah, I got other sources. I do a mail-order business, too. How much do you make enough? How much is that? No, sometimes four or five maybe 600 a month depends on how hard I work who printed up your checks What checks the checks you've been passing all over town wrong guy Where were you the night before you were arrested? What time say about 10 30 home doing what reading the book what book from here to eternity How far you get? Oh, maybe a hundred pages Where'd you get the book? What do you mean where'd I get the book? I bought it where some bookshop downtown? That night a couple of months ago How late did you read? Most midnight I guess Then you went to bed. Yeah Doesn't exactly check miss Larkin the cashier at the peacock restaurant says you were in there from 10 30 to 12 Handing her a bad check miss Larkin's a liar. I don't even know where the peacock is It's out on federal boulevard a nice place your kind of place Florian Well, I'll drop out some time and look it over. Thank you. How about a smoke? No Okay, I'll get along without it. What do you think at Jones book? Huh from here to eternity Man named Jones wrote it Do you like sergeant Pruitt? Yeah How about private warden? What do you want me to do give you a book review? No Just correct me Florian Pruitt's a private warden's a sergeant in that book detail. What? What did you have for dinner that night? Oh, how would I know if you don't who would I don't they have a specialty of the Peacock crack-cram Everybody gets I hate crab miss Larkin said you had crab that night. You already know what I think of what miss Larkin says Gotta make a statement if I didn't have a sense of humor. I'd be yelling for a lawyer Now you better start yelling. Hmm. I'm presenting a complaint first thing in the morning You've got five days to get a lawyer. Take them away, man Hello, Bill Yeah I'm holding this complaint on Florian Barthes end upstairs this morning I wasn't there enough stuff with the handwriting and identification. It seemed to be Ben But I just want to make sure we can get an indictment This bird's been passing wallpaper all over town. What's the cake? Captain Waldo Put him on okay Okay Okay All right, send it over to Ben Guthrie's office. Bye. Bye That's it Ben handwriting just verified a new check turned in this morning by a victim named Karisti They say it's Florian Barthes signature You've had him in custody almost a week, haven't you? Yeah check was passed last night What do you think? Bates me It's time for everyone to do some important fall house cleaning house cleaning which may save your home and the lives of your family You can eliminate the causes of home fires by cleaning out all debris by repairing all worn or frayed electric wiring Immediately and by putting matches out of the reach of children and be sure to do your cleaning with non-inflammable fluids UAR 315 17 J a mental case at 2837 Clyde place see the woman 33 a 5 8 Why the national still questioning bar. Yeah, see the man 1516 there it has been I've been here before They used to have a pretty good piano player Harry Harry something can you see anything not much Coming out of the sun What's it gonna be? We're looking for a mr. Karisti karista. I'm a pretty karista you the police Yeah, the sergeant grab on the tonic. Guthrie glad to meet you. Come on down to this end. It's much quieter Would you like something? No, thanks me neither can't stand the drink in the daytime. What about a smoke? Yeah, thanks? Thanks, I don't know whether I have much to tell you or not You see came in a couple of nights ago. He seemed like a nice fellow said he was an insurance business How long was he here almost an hour? Well, then you got a good look at him good look sure I did he sat right there on that stool Well, tell us about the check. Well, when he asked me to cash a check I told him I don't cash personal checks for anybody. He said there was a commission check And he pulled it out of his pocket Well, it was issued by some insurance company on a local bank had his name on it his social security and deductions They looked good to me. They looked good to a lot of people. Did you ask him for any further identification? No, no, I didn't did he endorse the check right here. Yeah, are you sure? Come to think of it. Do you think it was already in dust when he took it out of his pocket? Well, it could have been tell us what he looked like Nice looking as I said tall, maybe six feet or better. How old? 35 how much would you say weight? Not over 160 What was the color of his hair? I couldn't say for sure. He kept his head on all the time I imagine with dark brown or black he was the dark complex What color were his eyes? Dark, I guess Any marks of scars? No Anything else? jewelry cufflinks a watch a ring Might have been wearing all of those but I'd be right back Well, that could be Barth But it's a since he wasn't here drinking the scotch two nights ago. It sounds like a sister egg Maybe the handwriting guys are wrong. I don't stick with him So will I sorry I kept you waiting now. Is there anything more I can tell you well This is a picture of a man. We're holding now ever seen before No, no that isn't him but it could be him a sort of that's what we thought Can you get away from here for a while? Well, you mean right now? Yeah Well, I guess I can call my brother and let him take over this afternoon calling To early no three more just came in that makes 12 men couldn't get a hold of any more 12 will be enough This is mr. Karisti sergeant coin. Hello. How do you do mr. Karisti's number 13? You're hired superstitious. Are you? You can just grab a chether anyway, mr. Karisti. This won't take long I thought Matt was with you, man. He's across the hall with Asher. Oh there Hi, Tom. Oh, hello Ben Kline. Hi here. We got ourselves a problem looks like a time you ready to go to work. Yep All right Ladies and gentlemen I'm sorry to bother all you people by having you come down here again But you've all been stung with bad checks and we want to bring you up to date on what's happening We're holding a man now who's been identified as a check passer. Our handwriting department has confirmed it He's the same man some of you were unable to identify when we asked you to pick him out of the line this week However, we're pretty sure there's more than one man involved The general description of both men is just about the same That's why mr. Thompson's here. This is mr. Thompson. I Suppose all of you know that a composite picture is drawn from detailed information about the facial characteristics of a person Well, that's mr. Thompson's job in our department. He's pretty good at it, too But he needs the cooperation of every one of you He'll sit and listen for hours to what you have to say about the man who gave you those bad checks That right Tommy. It's about it. Lieutenant Okay, all yours.  Okay We know you've been working with someone Come on, come on, who is this other guy? Oh, you're all wet. No, oh you want something then no Did you make the checks up in batches and then take turns passing what checks these checks these checks right here in my hand I never saw before my life. Who's the other guy? There isn't any other guy. Look, I haven't had a drink of water for two hours Neither have I come on. Tell us about the other guy I can last as long as you two or anybody else you got down here in this crummy place How much did you pay for that apartment 185? How long have you lived? Okay, I'm still quiet It's been going on all day. You know, I don't think that guy's gonna say much. I'm afraid not Well, maybe it won't make any difference Hi Well, she gets in tonight Oh Nelly Molly sister. Oh Ben This is my night for the fights Ben she's only gonna be in town one night. You might like her Tommy finish it. Hey, he said he called me Barth isn't making things very easy.  That's why we're doing things the hard way Yeah, kind I'll crack it pin out a type of machine used on those checks good turned out to be a local Manufacturing outfit called the make-piece printing company. You talk to him. Yeah, I was after this morning They make all sorts of printing equipment. The general manager is quite an expert He says those checks were all done up on what he calls them of a 41 model What's a little portable checkmaking machine that made them for about two years now They sell them the firms that have small payrolls Hey, it might be somebody in an accounting department who could do it, Ben No, no, at least it'll be pretty hard Matt the make-piece people set them up for the individual firm type and all They'd be hard to change the type and every one of those checks has a different company name on it You get a list of all the people in town who bought those machines. Uh-huh a hundred and eight firms Hi, Asher you finish. Mm-hmm. Just got him out of photographic Well, this is what they say he looks like Hmm Gosh think it's dream stuff. No You sure got it all over Barth. Wouldn't you say Ben? Maybe Let's get him and find out It's a very handy little outfit says a lot of time I would have bought their big model right in here gentlemen, but the little one's good enough for my office And we just want a sample off the machine. We're glad to help in any way. Oh, uh, mr. Blair These two gentlemen from the police department lieutenant got three Sergeant Greve isn't it? Yes, Greb Would you mind showing them our checking machine? Well, this is it right here. Would you mind running one off for us? Oh, it's all right, mr. Blair. Just cancel the number when it comes out, you know All right, sir. Well, it's it's electric and all you do is set the amount here like this And then you run it off like this That's all there is to it and may we keep that sample. Oh sure Anything else I can do. Do you have a man working for you who looks something like this? No Mr. Blair does he resemble anyone you know no Anyone who might have worked here mr. Hastings at one time or another No, no, no, sir. All right. Thanks for your cooperation Yeah, fine Mr. Kendrick's in your office That's a man from the printing company. Uh-huh. He's been working with us all day looking at samples in those machines Mr. Kendrick's this is Lieutenant Guthrie and Sergeant Greb. Hello, glad to meet you both It's nice of you to give us a hand. Mr. Kendrick glad to do it My company feels a little a vast that one of our machines is involved in all this Did you see all the samples we brought in mr. Kendrick's? Yes, I did sergeant I was just explaining to sergeant quine that I don't think any of those bad checks were printed on any of the machines in town Oh, of course, that's just after a hasty survey of the situation But there's nothing outstanding on any of the samples brought in to tie them up with the same machine that printed the bad checks You've gone over all of them everyone I'm sorry. Lieutenant. I wish I had better news for you. I'll go over them again if you like and we want to be sure of course There were only a hundred and eight of them sold in this city. We rechecked our sales department on that. Yes and No others that you might not have a record on no other What about samples? Samples, well, you know salesmen have samples don't they when you first put them on the market Just happened to think there is one machine that's not accounted for We had a man on our sales staff two or three years ago name of Fisher Ed Fisher Seemed like a nice chap, but he didn't work out. He got in an argument with a customer and we had to let him go He never did return the sample machine we issued to him man. Yeah, mr. Kendrick's would you remember the salesman of your sign? I think so Is this him mr. Kendrick's boy? Why yes? Yes, that's him Mr. Fisher, that's right. I'm lieutenant Guthrie police.  Yes Come here. I'm sort of surprised if Florian didn't say anything. We'll tell you all about it Will I have an opportunity to come back here before? I mean Well to close my house and take care of some personal matters. You'll probably get out on bail Well, I guess I'm ready Okay in there. I Really never thought I'd be caught Didn't you know I I didn't I really didn't well now, you know The lineup or before you pass the innocent the vagrant the thief the murderer Listen again next week when we again bring you the lineup You people out there on the other side of the wire in the audience room may I have your attention please? Thank you, my name is grab sergeant Matt. Grab. I'll explain the line of Each of the suspects you will see will be numbered I'll call off a number the name of charge If you have any questions or identification, please remember the number of sign of the prisoner as I call his name At the end of each line when I ask for questions or identification call out the number If you're sure enough to sure of the suspect have The line up starring Bill Johnstone as Lieutenant Ben Guthrie and Wally Mayer as Sergeant Matt Grabb was written by E Jack Newman with music composed and conducted by Eddie Dunsteader Featured in tonight's cast were Jeanette Nolan high ever back her Butterfield Gil Stratton, Jr. Howard McNear Peter Leeds Ray Hartman and Jnavello the lineup was transcribed in Hollywood by Jaime Delvalle Almost three and a half million young men and our armed forces have given up a lot for you They've given up a way of life. 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Welcome to American Issues Take One. I'm Tim Appichelle, your host. And today's title is Vice President Pick is critical in the 2024 election. Age usually doesn't enter into the discussion about who's gonna be our next president or it did back in Ronald Reagan's time. The American public was concerned about his age. It certainly came up as a factor with John McCain, particularly his age, as it related to some health issues that he was having.  But really hasn't come up a whole lot with Donald Trump until recently. And so given the age issue that's coming up in this discussion about 2024 election, we thought it'd be a worthwhile thing to talk about the vice president because should a president become incapacitated or not able to fulfill its term of office, guess who takes over? And that's the vice president. So in the case of John McCain, he may well have lost the election because of a Sarah Palin pick as his VP. That hasn't been proven without a shadow of a doubt, but many do opine that that was a contributing factor to his loss to Barack Obama. So anyway, that's our discussion for today. And I would love to introduce my guests. Today I have with me my co-host, Jay Fidel, and our esteemed special guest, and I mean esteemed special guest, Chuck Crumpton. Good morning, gentlemen. Good morning, Chuck. Good morning, Jay. Yeah, wow. So, JTU, it looks like Donald Trump is going to be the heir apparent for the GOP nomination for the United States for the 2024 election. And the topic of who his VP pick will be has floated now to the surface of the media attention. And let me just suggest, or let me ask you, what do you think the top criteria for a VP pick on the Trump ticket will be? Oh, as you said, for sure. It's whether that person can succeed him as president. Simple. What about the loyalty test versus the loyalty to the constitution test? Well, yeah, he's going to have somebody loyal. He's going to have somebody who follows him around. He's going to have somebody he can suppress. So that person doesn't have any stay or any appearance on television and so forth. It's going to be a disappearing vice president just the way Pence was. Well, okay, that leads me to a list of names. And I'll just rattle them off quickly. Tillis, McMasters, John Kelly, Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Mike Pence, Mark Esper and Mark Milley, all thought to be loyalists to Donald Trump. But in the end, they actually stepped up and were reminded of their oath to office to the Constitution and the rule of law. They disappointed Donald Trump in many, many ways. Mike Pence in the end disappointed Donald Trump. He didn't do what Donald Trump wanted him to do. Does that change now with the next VP? Yeah, that was then, that was then and this is now. Well, has he learned a few things since then? I was going to say he's learned. He's learned and he's not going to make that mistake again. I mean, if you go to the question of loyalty, he's going to pick somebody absolutely loyal because he's been around the block on loyalty and it didn't work. It didn't work for them and it didn't work for the cabinet in general. People writing books and telling stories about him, he's not going to permit that again. So yes, you can bet that whoever he picks is going to be unbreakable, going to be completely loyal. All righty, thank you. Hey, Chuck, what do you think the top criteria Donald Trump and I was going to say Donald Trump and his staff are looking for, but in the end, the decisions that really doesn't matter what the staff recommends is what Donald Trump wants. What is the top criteria for Donald Trump as it pertains to a VP pick? Easy, there's only one. The one who can get the most black university president inspired, guess it. So right now, at least Stefanik is probably the leading contender for that. Nobody really has come in with that kind of results before. You do talk about loyalty. The problem with loyalty to Trump is that some of the people who've tried the hardest could be loyal to him and to please him with what he said he wanted. It got bad results. It didn't turn out well. And so they got blank-hand as a result. So what names are out there? You know, I think he got to look seriously at Marjorie Taylor-Green and Lauren Boeber and Elise Stefanik because you're not going to find three people anywhere who are less intellectually, emotionally, and maturity qualified than those three. But they have what Trump wants, which is he can grab them by whatever and make them his VP. And can I add about Elise Stefanik? She had her moment of fame a few weeks ago with the university president. And I mean, at least two of us are lawyers. Actually, if we were attacking them, we could have done better. Across the, she's the Harvard lawyer, but this is just another comment on Harvard lawyers. It wasn't that good. It was their bad answers that got them in trouble. And if Trump is talking about her competence as a cross-examiner, I'm not impressed, I'm sorry. And I wasn't impressed when she was first elevated, when he first elevated her. She came from nowhere. And what has she done exactly? Has she got a record of legislation of policy? I don't think so. On the other hand, she'd be a great pick for him because of what happened with the universities and because she has a big public profile now among the Republicans. Well, let me go to that public profile as a question or a criteria is Donald Trump from past experience and what I've observed is he doesn't like anyone to outshine Donald Trump. He likes quiet, compliant type of staff and picks for his cabinet. Stefanik seems to have at least the ability to talk back and is that the kind of person he wants? No, no, I don't agree. I think that Trump or for that matter, Biden can have a conversation in the Oval Office with his vice president and he can say, just shut up, will you? I don't want you to speak about this, that and the other thing, just be quiet. And I'll tell you when and what to do. And your payoff for being quiet pursuant to my instructions is that you might get to be president.  And I think that ultimately pervades that these days, the culture of the Oval Office is the president can make the vice president disappear. Chuck, your thoughts on what Jada said? You know, I think we're missing something here. Trump's greatest weakness, which if he's not aware of that everybody else who knows him and the rest of us are, is he was completely incompetent and dealing with strong, intelligent women. And so he needs one of those three who is no intelligent woman is going to line up with him. So he just has to get one who's strengths is greater than their intelligence. Stefanik Green and Bovert, well-qualified in those two respects, lack of intelligence and great vocal force. Well, let me say that Bovert and who's the other one? Marjorie Taylor. Marjorie Taylor Green. They're not in the same category as Stefanik. They don't have a law degree. She had to be somewhat smart to get into Harvard. And she has the ability to articulate, you know, those thoughts. The other two are morons. And God knows how they got elevated to where they were. I guess Trump elevated them, that's what happened.  To imagine Marjorie Taylor Green as vice president and possibly president and Bovert the same, that is a nightmare even in the contemplation. But if you're Trump, that's what you want, right? You want the vice president ascending to be such a nightmare that everybody will do whatever is necessary, including ignoring the law to keep you in power. Chuck, let me go to that point. John McCain, I think, was doing quite well in his polling numbers in his campaign against Barack Obama. And it took the actions or a question from Katie Kirk about, well, specifically, what books do you read? And then some satirical portrayals from Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live. And lo and behold, before you know it or before you can blink your eye, McCain's polling numbers dropped like a rock. And slowly correlated, I thought, to the pick of Sarah Palin, where people started imagining, well, what if John McCain has a coronary event in office? Are we going to entertain Sarah Palin as president of the United States? So let's compare that dilemma that John McCain had and Steve Schmidt as his advisor to a pick such as Marjorie Taylor Green or a Bovert. These are nightmares on Elm Street that could potentially be president of the United States. Your thoughts, is there any correlation? And is there a syndrome that your VP pick is now more important than ever? Yeah, I think it's a great question, Tim, because, and I think Jay hit on it a moment ago with the implication that if you pick someone that is even more horrific than Trump, while that might give him the security that everybody is going to want to keep him in power for as long as possible, it might just, when people go into a private voting booth, hey, it might just have the reverse impact and make people think, you know, maybe we don't want to go there. And Sarah Palin's the classic example of a, we definitely don't want to go there person. I totally agree. Right, well, okay, so in that same breath, isn't that what John McCain, excuse me for the inslip, isn't that what Joe Biden is basically up against with his current VP of Kamala Harris and her very, very low approval ratings. And I would say a lack of performance on anything she's been assigned to, to project manage. I'm specifically thinking of the immigration border issue. Yeah, and that's a good point, Tim, because he can't afford any minuses. He needs a VP candidate who's actually going to elevate his draw, his popularity. There's only one out there, and that's Michelle Obama. Hey, if she were his running mate, he would win.  You know, it's funny that you mentioned it because that is a rumor kind of flying around out there that she could be, but you know, you still have the political king makers and I'm thinking of South Carolina representative, Clyburn, and his insistence that Joe Biden pick an African-American vice president and it came to be Kamala Harris. Would there have to be the grand bargain behind closed doors for that to occur? That Kamala Harris actually is more interested in something in the administration other than VP and it'd be the grand bargain of convenience? That's a great question. It should have been Michelle Obama back then. They get a chance to fix it.  Do it right this time. Is there a time? Sure. There's always time. Okay. Oh no, no, no, there's... Until February 9th anyway, right? Yeah, February 9th is very close already. You know, two weeks away, less and... It doesn't take two weeks to sign an application. No, but you talk about negotiating a back room bargain about this. Let's see, there would have to be Clyburn because he's an important kingmaker, of course, and Biden and Kamala Harris. He's the vice president. But she has no clout. Who's really gonna be involved in the decision-making? Don't you need the Senate leader and maybe the House leader for the Democrats? Well, no. No. For example, if Michelle Obama is the one in the back room deal and everyone who has an interest in that, I mean, it's a small group, it's best for them, agrees that she should replace Kamala Harris and Kamala Harris says, I'd like to spend more time with my family, right? Then, and Michelle Obama files papers by the deadline. Now she's the vice presidential candidate. And I agree that it would be a completely winning move that detracts from this, it eliminates this handicap that Biden has with Kamala Harris. What would Michelle Obama bring to the ticket that Kamala Harris is not bringing to the ticket? Reliability. Reliability, okay. Yeah, and Obama and the name Obama.  Everybody knows she could be such a star in this election she could turn it on its head whether Trump gets the nomination, which she will or not. Well, it seems to me that Joe Biden's campaign so far is lackluster. There's comments that there's not a lot of energy behind in the Democratic Party. Wouldn't she bring that to the ticket that there'd be a renewed interest? And certainly that correlates to a turnout and votes on election day. Absolutely, because she brings what the Democrats most need and that's charisma. Yes, charisma, there it is, credibility and charisma. Well, is it time for me to bring my point of optimism to your attention, gentlemen?  I bet I wasn't. Go ahead, Jay, we're dying to hear it. Have either of you guys ever known anybody who had a dementia problem? And if you think back on your own experience with that individual or individuals, you know that sometimes it happens low but sometimes more often it happens fast. And whether it's Alzheimer's or just ordinary dementia, I think it's clear to anybody listening that Trump has it, confusing people, confusing events, confusing things we all know.  And I don't think it takes a psychologist or a physician to see this happening. We can all see it happening because life expectancy in this country is growing up and therefore the incidence of dementia is growing up. We all know somebody. We know how fast it grows and we know what it looks like and sounds like and where it ends up. So I think this is going to happen. It's just a wild speculation on my part but I think this is going to happen and it's going to happen fast enough so that in the next 10 months, we all of us see it happening and that will undermine his campaign. Donald Trump was seething mad that Nikki Haley hasn't dropped out of the race now. I suspect that part of his anger is basically because Nikki Haley really delivered a knockout punch but a severe punch suggesting exactly what you said and that is that Donald Trump has confused the Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. It wasn't just a slip of the tongue.  To what degree does Nikki Haley continue on that avenue and how effective will it be to give people a second thought about Donald Trump? Chuck, you? Well, first, I mean, I certainly don't agree with her political views but I have to give Nikki Haley credit because perceiving mental decline in Trump, that's a challenge. I mean, it's kind of like figuring out which is the whitest snowflake. But it's a challenge that no one has been able to deliver or had the courage to deliver. So does Nikki Haley get some brownie points for saying something that Donald Trump, you know, is going to just go on court about? Well, Donald Trump is always on court, but more so. He's mentally on court, but more so. Two questions that she raises. I mean, one is we know Trump cannot deal with strongman and Nikki Haley to the extent that she presents as a strong, articulate woman. He has no defense to that. She's going to look better than him every single time she does that. If she stays with that strength, just be a strong, independent woman.  But the second thing is we need to think about in this country, we're trying to be a representative of democracy, right? When Harold Carswell was nominated for the Supreme Court the Republicans argued that mediocrity should be represented on the Supreme Court. Well, Jay, shouldn't dementia be represented in the presidency? If we're going to have a representative democracy? This is the part where we edit the video. You know, Chuck, my answer to you is Will Drow Wilson. They had a massive stroke while being President of the United States and was shuttled off into the back room of the White House and basically his wife ran the government. Which was an improvement, actually. She was far less racist than Woodrow. Okay, to the topic of this show, why a VP pick is critical in 2024? Does this enter into the minds of the voters about Donald's mental acuity or the lack thereof? Let's take a really smart voter. I don't know how many there are, maybe not that many. A real smart... Thank you. A real smart voter who has followed the history of the Trump administration. And remember that, what is it? 25th Amendment would allow a president to be removed. I don't think it happened in the case of Woodrow Wilson because he just disappeared into the back end of the White House. But formally removed from the office. It takes the vote of his cabinet. Okay, and in the first administration, there were people in the Department of Justice, as I remember, and even on his cabinet that were saying, this guy has to be removed. He's incompetent to be president. And remember what happened? Nothing happened because the cabinet would never have voted for that. They were all Trumpers. And that's the way it works. He appoints loyalists and they would never be so disloyalist for all amount of office. Well, a discerning voter in the privacy of the election, both voting, would presumably remember that. And he would say that the 25th Amendment is not gonna stop Trump in office. He could be in full dementia and the 25th Amendment will not operate because all his cabinet will be loyalists. That's interesting, because remember at the last 2020 election, Donald Trump lost and it was reported by his staff. And I think Mark Meadows, his chief of staff, that Donald Trump was saying some pretty crazy things so much so that General Mark Milley had to call China and say, we're not looking to start a war with you, which Donald Trump took exception to. But it got to the point where there was real concern, but yet no movement on the 25th Amendment. You know, you asked a little while ago, Tim, should Hailey keep on pushing this issue? Is this a cornerstone of her campaign for the nomination? And that's a hard question, actually, because if she goes too far, then she will look like she's hitting a man when he's down.  Nobody wants to be in that space. On the other hand, or she says nothing, she can be buying into the loyalist approach. He is the one that I would look to to keep the issue alive. I guess Mark Meadows is not going to do that. Either are his other former loyalists. They're not going to come out, although they should. They should be writing books about them. Now, Nazi is, right now. It's like his sister did. Yeah, we have lots of those books. They should come out big time, but we can't count on that. What we can count on is Hailey has got it in her platform, and she has got to do it the right way. Because it's the right way, I think it could be a telling blow against Trump. And all the while, Trump is probably going to disintegrate further. Boy, you see some things that really get my brain churning because it was just about a week and a half ago that Donald Trump was imitating President Biden, the President of the United States. He's imitating him on stage about some of his, President Biden has a stammer and a stutter, and some of his comments are a little bit off, but he was mocking him. So it's okay for Donald Trump to get a pass on that. No one really talks too much about it, but even you suggest someone as Nikki Hailey to do the same or far less than the same, then she's risking her political future. Isn't that interesting that we have this dichotomy of behavior between Donald Trump and any other politician? Well, it reminds me of Trump in that unforgettable photograph we were, he was imitating a woman who had some kind of disability. You remember that? Well, it was a video, and it was, yeah, a reporter. A reporter with palsy, I think. It was unforgettable, and it sticks in the minds of voters, I hope. But I think at the end of the day, when Trump attacks people, if he doesn't have a good reason, and he makes it up, I was telling you about the culture of Queens County where I grew up and where Trump grew up. And it's called ranking in school. You find these very strange insults to make and you keep making them. And Trump has a whole playbook of insults that he used, including insults to Biden, where he, you know, he imitates Biden because Biden can't speak that well and he has a stutter and what have you. But he can't say that Biden is in dementia. It's different to have a stutter than be in dementia. I think we have to make that distinction. But I think Haley is making that distinction for us. Good point, good point. Chuck, you know, in the past, the president would look to the vice president to see what they could bring to the table as far as votes for the general election. Kennedy knew that Johnson had a clear advantage in the South, Texas specifically, that he could bring the South end to someone who was born and raised and spoke with a new Eastern accent. So Johnson was his perfect pick in that regards. Do politicians today still look to see what you can bring to the table as far as votes? And if so, would that then point a finger or a direction to Tim Scott or Sarah Huckabee Sanders? And the answer to the most questions is no. I mean, there really is no more critical strategic thinking in politics, unfortunately. If the Democrats did it, they essentially couldn't lose because they've got the most defeatable opposition in US history on the merit, right? But the second part of the question, which becomes interesting, is if you look at the choice of how you present the person, and which person you choose who's gonna bring in the most votes, that's not gonna work for Trump. Trump needs somebody who has two abilities. One, they will do exactly what he wants, even if he doesn't know what that is. And number two, the result will be exactly what he wants, even if he doesn't know what that is. That's a level of masterminding that Bill Barr could not achieve, that nobody in the Trump administration ever achieved. In fact, I don't know anybody that even achieved one of those two things, but that's his criteria, which is pretty challenging. Biden, on the other hand, does need somebody who will bring in votes. There is no question, the only person out there who is reliably able to do that is Michelle Obama, unless he can get Oprah to run. If he can get Oprah to run, then that might be another possibility. Yeah, Michelle's better. Michelle is better. But Oprah is still better than Kamala and all of us. I think Jay suggested you get two for the price of one. You get also the assistance and advice council of former President Barack Obama. Yes, you do. Yeah, but who's advice and assistance do you think he got? If it weren't for Michelle, how many more serious judgment errors would he have made in his presidency? I don't think we can even count though. Yeah, I agree. That's a great point, Chuck. I'd like to say that... If you want adult supervision, Michelle Obama is the one you want. I think that this election in general is gonna be what the question before the House and the country is, what kind of a country do we wanna be? And I think in the next 10 months, one issue is going to surface during these campaigns. And it is the disadvantage, the impoverished, the homeless, and the lives they lead in this country. And what have the two parties, if you call them, if you call them Republican parties, what have they done to help with that? And how kind have they been? Now, there's a movie called Inheritance. And it's at one of the film festivals now. And you can actually watch an advanced copy on the web. And Inheritance is a documentary about impoverished, homeless, and very sad stories about families in this country who are just poor. And most of them, by the way, are in the South. Not all of them, of course, but most of them are in the South. When this movie comes out in public, I think it's going to accentuate the issue. And of course, Biden would be on the right side of that issue. He would be talking about what he has done and the other things he will do. Trump will not. And I think that if the public gets sensitized this issue of poverty and caring for people, and if it becomes as it should be a proper issue in the campaign, it's going to be a major point of, major platform point for both of them. And the question is, by the way, I heard some of this on NPR and it's very, very compelling about how the poor people in this country, the disadvantaged, the minorities lead really awful lives, awful.  We don't know that, but that's the fact. And this movie shows. Anyway, assuming that that is a big issue in this campaign and going forward, and the country will turn on what kind of a country you want to be, who's the better choice of vice president for Trump? Now, rationally, he would want somebody sensitive to those issues. I don't think there's anyone in his lit lineup that you mentioned, the possibilities. Robert, really, and so forth. All the ones that you've mentioned, I don't think any of them are sensitive to this issue. Thank you, Jay. We've run out of time. Chuck, your final thoughts? I think Jay has nailed it. And if you take that issue as one that could be a dealmaker for the Democrats, deal breaker for the Republicans, there is no one in the country better to sell that issue and it's important than Michelle Obama. Great. You know, Jay, you really hit it on the head as what kind of America do we want? And I'm thinking of the 1946 movie that baby boomers have been watching during every Christmas season. Gen X, Millennials, even Gen Z have been watching a movie called It's a Wonderful Life. And if you've seen that movie, you know that there was a decision that now is before America. And that is, would you rather be living in a Potterville or a Bedford Falls community? And those are the choices we have between the two candidates. And I'd like to thank my co-host Jay Fiedel and our special esteemed guest, Chuck Crumpton, for their attendance and their sage-wise comments today. And won't you join us next week? And for American Issues Take One, I'm Tim Apacheu, your host. And until then, Aloha.