So many people have been speaking about the climate crisis. So many things have been put on paper. But the real question is why is it that we're still not acting at the scale and speed that is necessary? The extreme weather events that the scientists have long connected to the climate crisis are becoming far more frequent and far more destructive. For 150 years we've built up a world based on the assumption that we can exploit the planet for free and it translates to very dramatic impacts happening right as we speak. The climate crisis is a threat multiplier which means it exacerbates existing inequities in our society. The impacts are felt most deeply by Black, Indigenous and communities of colour. We're living through an explosion of inequality. We need to remember we're on the same planet and this is the planet that we need to make sustainable for the whole of humanity. Climate change is impacting food security as well as political stability in many nations around the world. Five years ago there were 80 million people marching towards starvation. That number jumped to 135 million. What caused the jump? It was a man-made conflict like in Ukraine compounded with climate shocks. No one is as vulnerable to climate change as farmers are. If you talk transformation the first thing they want to know is what must I do on my farm? We know that this transition will require a fast adoption of a lot of new technologies and the question today is how to find the appropriate way to finance this technology. To put a number around it it's an extra two and a half to three trillion dollars a year of additional finance that we have to find in order to get those emissions down. Financial institutions have a lot of roles to play to bring the advice and provide the financing to make these transitions happen. Younger generations are demanding a sense of purpose. They want to look at companies and say I am investing with you all for this reason. With the upcoming two cops taking place in Africa and the Middle East we have this tremendous opportunity to put emerging markets at the forefront of our collective response to climate change. For international trade has to be part of the solution. How do we all get together to talk about a global carbon price that can guide us and help us to decarbonize the world? The solutions are there. What we need is governments to regulate, to invest and we need business to act with values. History will look at us, people, politicians, corporate leaders. These times require not only solutions but speed. There is nowhere else to look than the mirror. We are the ones that need to do this. Hello and welcome to Scaling Innovation for People and Planet. I'm John Dutton, Head of Uplink, joining you from the World Economic Forum's Sustainable Development Impact Meetings here in New York City. What innovations do we need to solve some of the world's biggest challenges like water security, climate change, and poor access to healthcare and education? What ingredients are needed to help these innovations grow and have maximum impact for people and planet? And how do we create the right business and investment environment for them to flourish? Since its launch in early 2020, Uplink, the World Economic Forum's open innovation platform founded in partnership with Salesforce and Deloitte, has been sourcing solutions to these questions, mobilizing entrepreneurs, investors, partners, and experts to create an innovation ecosystem and to accelerate the scale, the startups that are making the global goals a reality. Over the course of the next 45 minutes, we'll talk about some of these challenges in more detail and meet some of the entrepreneurs, investors, business leaders, and policymakers who are finding new ways to tackle those challenges head on. We'll also launch Uplink's latest innovation endeavor, the Global Freshwater Challenge, and talk about why getting the right funds in place to help purpose-driven entrepreneurs is so vital to achieving the SDGs. So let's get started. First of all, we want to talk about fresh water and the need to protect and conserve the world's freshwater ecosystems. Freshwater ecosystems are vital to life on our planet, but they are under threat from climate change and growing urban populations. If we continue using fresh water at our current pace, we will run out of safe drinking water. Already today, 4 billion people experience severe water scarcity every year. There is an urgent need for innovation to tackle this issue, and that is why Uplink, in partnership with HCL, is launching the Global Freshwater Challenge, a call for sustainable solutions that are restoring water quality and making our supplies of fresh water more resilient. Joining me here in the studio to talk more about this new challenge is Sundar Mahalingam, the Chief Strategy Officer of HCL, and alongside him, I'm pleased to welcome Henk Ovink, Special Envoy for International Water Affairs for the Dutch Government. Welcome, and thank you both for being here. Thank you for calling me here. Yeah, great to be here. Look forward. So listen, let me start with you, Sundar, and really as the partner and stimulus for this Global Freshwater Challenge, we want to understand a little bit why is water insecurity so important for HCL? Okay, thanks. So firstly, HCL as an organization is quite involved in social systems and trying to improve the life of people, particularly in the area we come from, India in a sense. And so we have done a fair amount of work on water in trying to create some nature-based solutions, some technology-based solutions to sort of help the water agenda. But we somehow felt that that was not enough because while in other areas, there seems to be a fair amount of what I call interest and enthusiasm, we sort of felt that the water area, particularly the technology part, was needed more impactors. And that's why we felt that this is an area we should look at. And the larger issue here to my mind is also it's not just about India, while India is an important area. And honestly, we have, I think, only 4% of the water and about 25% of the population. So it's a big issue for us. But I think it's beyond that. It's a global point, a global issue. And we felt that the solutions for this need to come from a global perspective. And the feeling was, at least in our heads, that innovation is where we need to look at. I think the technologies exist. But how do we bring the technologies together? How do you direct them towards the water agenda? It's something we felt that we should work on. And we felt that it's best to work with you with a weft to sort of with uplink to sort of make this happen. So that's why the interest in water. And I think this has been exciting for us because at the same time, Hank, as you know, the World Economic Forum has had a big focus on water. There's an upcoming UN Water Summit coming next year. And I guess, you know, we wanted to come to you. You've been appointed with this pretty unique position as the special envoy for international water affairs. And we can see that this is a complex issue. So for you, what are some of the key factors driving that global water insecurity that we're seeing? And thanks for having us here. It's great to be with you here also to discuss the opportunities, which is what the most aim is when we think about innovation. And in my role as special envoy, it's exactly that. You could almost say finding the water in other sectors. There is the water sector that, of course, helps provide solutions and innovations, but it is the other sectors where you make the difference in these connections. And if we look at the Sustainable Development Goals, which is the global agenda for the next eight years now and beyond, you can find water in, of course, health and agriculture and energy and climate, but also in cities and in ill quality and education. If you look closely, water underpins all of these goals, but also undermines reaching them. This is also the main reason why in 2014 the Dutch government reached out and we had this conversation on how can we put water higher on the agenda politically, to make ministers of finance and political leaders understand the importance for security at large, but also work with private sector finance across the world to really identify, hey, if you reduce your water footprint or start a coalition between the nexus of energy, water and food, all of a sudden you drive sustainable development at scale. Because we see many amazing opportunities, but there is a sliver of what needs to be done. So scale and replication of these holistic, comprehensive approaches is of critical importance. So being an envoy, a special ambassador dedicated to this cause, it is about promoting water, doing research to make people, institutions and leaders as well as communities on the ground understand it better and then drive action and action comes by innovation. And there are many examples locally, but the scale is lacking. So I'm in the sense, also in this partnership with uplink and driving, you know, an innovative, an innovation agenda almost towards the summit next year to say, hey, of course it's challenging. We saw the video with, you know, all the disasters that are all linked to water as a root cause for conflict and migration as a part of climate impact, as part of, you know, the impacts on our infrastructure and our economies. But that's the other side. If you invest in water, it trickles down across every sustainable development goal and it is really a lever for the change we seek and making this combination public and private and finance through innovation is where we can scale. So I hope, you know, with the conference, which will not be a talk show, but an event on action, we can put a spotlight on water innovation action also in the partnership with the forum and uplink. That's great. I mean, you mentioned it a bit in your comments just now, but this aspect of the complexity of water and kind of intertwined in all of these different SDGs, have you seen an evolution? And what else do you think we need to think about when it comes to, you know, addressing water in the context of these other topics as well? And I think this is one of the challenges. And there are two ways about, I've been hearing more. One is really understand that complexity better. So you actually demystify it because we easy. Oh, it's so complex. And then, you know, we continue with our single focused practices of investing in infrastructure or businesses that fail in the context of that complexity. So we find it too hard in a political domain, but also private sector and finance. And there's an example. If you invest in water and your health costs go down, those budgets are never linked. Those industries are not even linked. So how can you make a business case or a political argument to look at public and private sector? So complexity is hard. But at the same time, if you demystify it and you bring together coalitions, public and private, but also across sectors, you say, oh, it's not so complex. It's an opportunity. It's an opportunity for partnership and an opportunity for innovation. That's one. The other is that people say, well, we should not make it too complex for an investor. Too much of complexity in a long term doesn't work. So again, in a partnership between public and private, we can mitigate the risk of early investments and reduce that risk. So innovators that perhaps don't like the complexity, but do like to spend funding or guarantee funding for innovation, can come into. So on one hand, demystify it, but understand it. But the other also don't make it too big. And I think the opportunity lies there that if we can identify water and agriculture and food and energy and climate change and biodiversity and the economies, and we see the benefits of it, of investing in water on the short, medium, and long term, it's going to be far easier. And the summit provides a platform and a collaboration with the forum and private sector partners also an opportunity to show, OK, it's complex. But there's a necessity and an urgency and a massive opportunity if we do. I think that's that's an important aspect of us trying to simplify some of the messaging and some of the opportunities. And and I think that's some of what we hope to come and see in terms of the global freshwater challenge. So now let me come back to you and talk. What types of innovations are you hoping that we can serve as part of this challenge? In fact, to take from what Hank was saying. So while it is still open at the moment, and I'm excited to see what the possibilities are enormous and endless. And it's very difficult to sort of say that this is going to happen, that's going to happen. But in my head, we had two, three focus areas that we talked about, we thought about. One was, of course, this whole decision making. See, there's a lot of data is necessary to forest to understand what to do. And we talked about complexity, but complexity can be simply have the data to understand what it's all about and then create solutions. So I'm hoping for some innovations in the ability to look at the data, some in the ability to look at, let's say, how there's a lot of wastewater, how do you bring it back to the mainstream or to look at fresh source of water. So broadly, it's still an open charter, but I'm hopeful of seeing something in these three areas, which I'm hopeful will excite us and think of these as source code.  And which is why people like Hank and the governments are so important in this process. That's how I think about it. Can I chime in? Because I think the interesting aspect of it, the innovation lies in these many aspects. It's in the technology and in the industry and making these connections, but also in the soft parts of that. The capacity, working with schools and kids and universities and building capacity in communities, nature-based solutions, working with indigenous to really understand cultural aspects that really can drive innovation. I started a program in Chennai, India, Kulna, Bangladesh and Samarang Indonesia called Water as Leverage, where it's really about, okay, it is about the technology, but also about the capacity. Can communities play a leading role in driving innovative technologies and nature-based solutions to mitigate water-related risk and create added value? And they can. We're implementing within a year a first project, community led, but a combination of public and private partnerships. So I think that part and then the other that you say is the institutional, that is data, but also decision-making, having access and understanding what that access really means. Right now with FAO, the UN Organization on Food Security, you could say, and agriculture, we're working to scale a program where satellite data informs individual farmers on when and how to water their land, what type of crops they can grow at what rate and in what season. And we started in the MENA region, so the Middle East, Northern Africa, and we're now scaling this by investing in satellites and the data and the access to the data as well as capacity programs for those farmers across the world. So here you see, you start somewhere, the data gets improved from 100 by 100 meters, we now can go, I think, 10 by 10 so farmers can really understand what they need to do. And then at the world, that is amazing.  That's right. And I think before we came on air, I think you were talking about how important this international aspect is to your role. And you clearly just shared a couple of examples, but are there other solutions or entrepreneurs that you've seen as you've been in this role since 2015 and that have had a major influence on the types of local challenges that a country, a city are facing? Anything else that comes to mind that are worth sharing here? Inspiration for us, if you will. There's so many, and some are small. I work with a school in Chile in a river basin where we started to work, and Chile is this amazing country where the Andes and the ocean determine what is happening in between. So you have mining and big agriculture in the mountains and then all the way down the river, smaller scale communities and farmers and industry that depend on fresh water. But if the mine pollutes or the farmer uses all the water, then there's nothing left. So we work data driven in these riverine capacity. And then this school in this Elk River basin that takes on this water as an opportunity, building capacity among the little boys and girls, them understanding what are better. So I think these types of partnerships where innovation comes with the technology on how mines can actually reduce the impact on how they pollute water and not pollute it, reuse it, so they reduce their water footprint. The farmers then have a combination with the miners and say, oh, we can be one of those reduction of a water footprint but also reuse our water multiple times. So there's more left in the watershed where we use groundwater storage to really make sure that there's water resiliency in the basin and then capacity with the communities to understand. And those are the ones that go to vote. So the decision makers are then in the right place to say, hey, this is actually a sustainable system. Changing behaviors, influencing communities. So I think these type of things, like I said in Chennai, where we're doing in a community with the school, actually harvesting the water with nature-based solutions, cleaning it with nature-based solutions, bringing it back to an aquifer that's polluted and overused, and then scaling it from that community to others. So I think it's those type of examples that we see. And perhaps the last one is Aqua Capital, which is a Mexican initiative, also driven by private sector FEMSA, Coca-Cola in this case, and working together with private sectors like Heineken, really bringing in capital to spur innovation. Because you need money, you need the capacity, you need an environment to drive innovation, and then of course partnerships across all scales. So I think, luckily, I can be inspired in on every continent in the many ways it's happening. The only thing I think we need a spotlight on them so people can say, oh, this is how it works. We need an environment to replicate and scale, and an environment of partnership, building trust against all the challenges our societies currently face and say, oh, this is great stuff. Let's scale and replicate. So you see literally a rippling effect of those innovations across the world. And I think the challenge you're developing can be a major inspirational driver for that. So I look forward to see what comes out of this. So we've heard some of that inspiration. Maybe the last question for you, Sundar, which is, okay, so we can source and we're going to find and provide the visibility and recognition for some of these types of innovations. What type of ecosystem do you think we need to put in place to see them flourish? Thanks, John. That's a very important aspect. I mean, one of course is we need to get people to what I call come to the space and innovate in the space, right? And that the opportunity exists. And some of the examples you mentioned are really heartwarming in that sense. So that is one area. We want more and more entrepreneurs looking at this space. Two is I think beyond that, you also would like to have a lot of investors and maybe venture capitalists looking at this space. Now, these are not large investments we're talking about right now, right? But unless you have many and not every one of them is going to be successful, the few that are going to succeed are going to be great, but you need to have that many and that's going to be able to take more and more examples and sort of inspire other people as well. So I think there is a need for the innovators, if there's a need for venture capitalists, for governments, and maybe for, let's say, people like us and people like, you know, somebody like, where for uplink to sort of brings the world together. It's a full entire ecosystem of people that need to see. And I think it's a long journey. It's not a short one year two year journey. We're talking about a long time, which is why I think we talk about this fire road wrap ahead. And I think we need to see that and see that move forward as we go along. Well, it's interesting. We often too often focus only on the project. So and there's there's a lot of funding around the world going to infrastructure or technology. But the softer one, you need a million to spend a billion wisely in that sense and creating an environment where that million can flourish. But where there's also consistency continuity and commitment that does this longer term is critical importance. Here we are here in New York, right? A city 10 years ago that was battered by Hurricane Sandy. President Obama set up this Hurricane Sandy rebuilding task force. And one of the and I had the honor to serve on the task force. And one of the things we did, you know, after the repair and the first response, etc. is set up an innovation practice, a challenge. The Obama administration was famous for its challenges driving innovation across public and private sector. Rebuild by designs, projects are now being implemented. And there are exactly those innovative concepts here, nature based, community driven, public private commitment on the long term that we're spending billions now thanks to investing in that capacity and in that safe space to really secure the future of the city of New York. And I think these examples, these challenges is what we have to bring to the world. So thanks so much for providing that opportunity. And I think a big thank you to HCL and your leadership. As you said, you need the million to be able to spur on the billion and your contributions, both supporting this ecosystem, but also the most impactful of those innovations is going to go a long way. So thank you both for being here to discuss this key issue with us. And I now want to actually give our audience a chance to learn more about the global freshwater challenge by watching this short video. There is an urgent need for innovation, tech based and nature based solutions in freshwater. HCL and uplink are partnering over the next five years to find innovative solutions in freshwater and aquaprenuos. We call this the aquaprenuos innovation initiative. If you are watching and are working on or in the startup that is focused on improving access to water or protecting freshwater systems, visit uplink and now submit your solution to the Glow Water Challenge. Now, as most people will know, it is the ingredient in the journey to trans-source the right capital to scale. At the same clear gap for startups, particularly in certain design sectors, to secure the capital they need to scale. Likewise, the nation investments in nature, climate, ocean, water and other SDGs is still developing. This is part of the SDG innovation ecosystem, which is why in Davos earlier this year uplinked the innovative funds for our future challenge. Campaign to source and select the most innovative funds investing in purpose-driven startups are all funds that are investing in nature, energy, the other SDG topics. And today, we are announcing the winners of that challenge. So let's watch this video to find out a little bit more about each one of them. Welcome back and thank you for your patience as we've dealt with a small technical issue. We're really excited to have you here for the second half of our program that is looking to acknowledge and thank all of these innovative funds for being part of the process. It's exciting to see this shift in the business and investment community towards supporting startups that are having such a positive impact on the planet. We're now joined in the studio by one of the winners of this challenge, Jonas Kattum Svegaarden, who is the CEO of Catapult Ocean. We also have one of uplinked exciting innovators who has actually received funding from Catapult Ocean, Kristin Kagetsu, from Sati. So let me start with you, Jonas. Tell us more about Catapult Ocean and why you are focused on investing in companies that have a focus of life underwater. Yeah, thanks a lot and thanks for being here, Jon, and great to see both of you again. So at Catapult, we're an investment firm, an impact investment firm. We truly believe that we need to back more founders that have a positive impact on our planet, most specifically our climate and the oceans. So we're investing into ocean health, the category of Sati pads, transportation, energy, food, and frontier technologies. So we believe in mobilizing capital from fund investors, being foundations, wealth managers, family offices, pension funds, and alike. And allocate that towards innovative startups that start tackling the great challenges we're facing. So I think for us what's been really important about this new challenge, and as you saw in the video, it's a different kind of challenge, we're looking to support and source funds. Now those funds are all trying to support entrepreneurs who are working on issues for people on planet. And it's really great to have you here with us, Kristin. And I wondered if you could just tell us a little bit more about Sati, what's the inspiration for it and how has it evolved? Thank you so much for having us. We're really excited to be here. So at Sati, we make biodegradable and compostable sanitary pads. And our main goal is when we started was to address the lack of access to menstrual products, but do so in a sustainable way. So in India, only 36% of women have access to menstrual products. And this causes a whole host of other issues. And so the way that we got involved with catapults is that we were looking at ocean pollution as well in the sense of trying to avoid ocean plastics. So sanitary pads and other menstrual products do end up in the water bodies in the ocean on the street and in India as well. And looking at that from the source, like trying to address pollution from the source instead of after it's already created is kind of our approach. I think it's so interesting because it gives this example of how so much is interlinked between the different SDGs. And I wonder, Jonas, maybe you'd talk for a minute about what was it about Sati and companies like hers that drive your kind of allocation of the portfolio and how are you making those decisions of where to invest? Firstly, we're catapult, we're looking at a large amount of companies and solutions out there every year, approximately a couple of thousand. We boil it down to at least 10 companies a year that receive investment from us and our fund. And we're continuously chasing the two-fold or three-fold impact, the environmental, the societal, and of course the financial impact as we were a market return seeking fund. So both of the three Sati ticked the boxes. We're looking to see a great environmental impact on our oceans, stopping the pollution on land is what we need to chase and see. There's a societal approach is also a benefit when we made an investment and of course we need to see a great potential and a large addressable market. And lastly we need to see teams that are willing and able to have what it takes to go all the way. And we saw that in Kristin and team. Wonderful. I mean, I think this is an interesting aspect of kind of how things are evolving and I wonder from your perspective, Kristin, you've now been doing this for a number of years. Have you seen a shift in the type of the investment community and their approach to supporting entrepreneurs like yourself? Yes, definitely. I think when we started the UN Sustainable Development Goals had just been launched as well as 2015. And even we were kind of exploring, we were trying to explain the impacts that we had. And once we saw the goals, I think that helped to explain that. But also on the flip side, I think a lot more investors became interested in the UN SDGs and how they could now measure the impact that was being created. And so we've seen definitely a shift and a lot more investment groups like Catapult that are focused on specific kind of SDGs or like SDG-14 in this case. And I think that has really provided a lot more support for companies like Sati. Now from our experience over the last few years, it's been clear that there is this gap, that there's a gap when startups are starting to get to scale. And I just thought it would be interesting to bring to life. What did the type of investment that Catapult provided, what did that allow you to do in terms of your operations and the impact and the scale that you were able to provide? Yeah, so we got the investment just in 2020, so right before COVID. So I think for us actually in a lot of ways that helped us weather COVID, like all the challenges that we faced with everything shutting down and needing to be able to kind of maintain our operations and everything. So we were able to really weather COVID quite well that way. And now being a good place in order to scale. So at this point now we have re kind of evaluated, you know, the current scenario of where we are and the needs that we have in order to scale. And I think we're in a great place because we're currently kind of on that path. And you're still fundraising? Just now, yes. So we just started, but we already have 30% of our funds. Fantastic, congratulations. Thank you. I would almost put the flip side as well. I mean, there's, and you know, our experience over the last months of getting to know funds like yourself, Jonas has been that a lot of the needs that entrepreneurs have, a lot of emerging funds as well. And I wonder if you'd talk about, you know, what has it been like for you as you weathered the COVID pandemic and have begun to emerge? How have you looked to grow your impact and think about the needs that the catapult ocean has? Actually, we're investing globally. So actually for us, COVID worked out quite well, because then we were able to invest into ventures being located all across the world. Normally, before COVID, we got our ventures as Kristin, all the way to, we got them and took them to Norway for our three month accelerator program. Now they were able to participate in our program at their location. And that gave us a better reach on ventures and our deal flow. As for the fundraising part of things, people were more accessible. So that's great actually. I think we saw the need to have a great network and to grow that, that was the hard part during COVID. And I think also that was what our ventures benefited from when attending our accelerator program. One thing is about retaining your network and another in the hard part is about growing that in a digital way. That's excellent. Listen, the audience that uplink is looking to attract and hopefully that are with us today live are young people, change makers, potential entrepreneurs themselves, people that are looking to invest and support the ecosystem. And I wonder what advice and maybe for both of you, you would have for entrepreneurs out there when you're thinking about any mistakes that you might have made or you've observed. And also about as they look to attract investment for their ideas. Maybe let's start with Kristin on your side. Yes, I think one of the things that has been really good for us is looking at the problem and the solution from kind of systems level perspective. So the kind of impact that we want to create and even the impact that we've created till date is all around how our model is built. So we are able to address multiple UN SDGs and make sure we have impacts with additional income to farmers, employing in all women's staff, distributing pads to women who don't have access and eliminating plastic waste. And I think all of these kind of system level impacts are what make our business model unique and more interesting maybe to investors. So inspiring others to tackle those type of systemic challenges. What about you, Jonas, what would you what would you offer as some advice to this group? I would advise founders to think collectively and to partner with others and not solve and tackle the challenges by themselves. So we're offering a lot of partnerships and encouraging our founders to work together, work with others and utilize all the help that's out there actually. It's a lot of incubators, accelerators, partnership opportunities in the world that could be very valuable if you're using it the right way. Okay, two last questions for both of you. First one, in the previous segment you saw we launched the Aquapreneur Global Freshwater Challenge. We had a representative from government and from the private sector on with me. And I wonder what do you think that you need from those sectors and investors, perhaps even the collateral providers, for both startups and funds to flourish? I don't know. Would you like to start, Jonas? Yeah, I can start. Firstly, the government, I think they're doing a great job actually. Many of the heads of state and what we've been waiting for is a lot of regulation to happen to drive the markets in the right way. So I wouldn't say that they're off the hook, but still they're doing some great impact. I would say the private markets and the private investors are still lagging behind. I can speak for especially the ocean focused investment strategies and funds. But also I think for us as fund managers and I would say financial products, we need to do our job as well and take our responsibility. So we need to create good investment strategies, investment teams, investment themes to allow more capital to flow into ventures as Christians and others. So it's also on us. Yes, I think there's a couple of things. One is definitely the mindset. So I think the mindset sometimes becomes a little bit short-sighted in terms of what we want to achieve today or more like looking at things as, oh, I have some target to achieve and I need to achieve that this year. Let's work to get those numbers. But at the same time, looking at what are the things that we're building for the long term, I think that is definitely something we can't do alone. As Yonah said, I think that's something we do need partners and support for. And seeing that maybe you save a little bit of money today, but in the long term you're going to spend quite a lot more trying to reverse effects, negative effects. And that's even why we started Sati the way we did. So I think that's one thing. And then the other is looking at kind of support for scale. So in terms of partnerships, I think we're looking, we have to run Sati operations day to day. But I think one of the things that we can use some support with is partnerships that can help us scale faster. Fantastic. Well, listen, last question for both of you. The mission of Uplink is to build bridges across the innovation ecosystem. And I want to just get a little bit of a future look. What is it that you think both of your organizations need and would love to see as support from Uplink in order to thrive? Let's come back to Kristin to start and you can close. Yes. So we've been really excited to join the Uplink community this year and have an opportunity like this to be able to speak on a global stage. And at the same time, I think what we're looking forward to with Uplink is having that global platform. It seems like a great way to be able to connect more readily with other partners around the world. So we're really looking forward to that. Great. And yours? Yeah. I have high expectations, as always. But you've done great with spotlighting innovators and now, once again, spotlighting innovative funds because it's a whole value chain here. We need funds like us and others to be successful whereas we need you to be successful. So I think the platform we're onboarding now allows us to open new doors, new engagements, and collaborations. So I would like more action. I would like even more engagement across funds and across corporates, investors, asset owners, as well as innovators as we all need you guys to make it at the end. Yes. Well, listen, thank you both for joining me here today. And I want to thank you all, no matter where you are around the world. Uplink is an open innovation platform and it's open for anyone, anywhere. No matter what you're focused on, are you interested in helping these entrepreneurs and these funds? Are you interested in working for them? But we're always open. We're excited for you to see how you can get involved with Uplink as we continue to grow and make a global impact. So do make sure you come and visit us at uplink.weform.org and sign up to learn more about innovators like Kristin and investors like Jonas and to see how you could support them. So once again, thank you for being with us and we hope to see you soon.


Brandon Marshall and Peter King stopped by to break down a wild Thursday night of football and don't look now people finally Watson I could cheer for in the NFL to actually we start now absolute battle. This is the rivalry I needed in the NFL always close games always down to the wire Herbert Mahomes Of course the chiefs pull it out to a 27 to 24 victory I was hoping for overtime But then I kind of wasn't because Herbert was dealing with rib injuries and all sorts of stuff The latest is that he's going to go under a battery of tests today and we'll get you all of that information We got to break this game down and to do so a very special guest Tell me what you know about me if I said it in a minute and then what it's gonna be Everything that I want in my dreams and it came I ain't playing if I am it's for keeps I'm Just Broncos, but I missed the Bears days Why do you see with 13 seasons in the NFL and you were the first player Brandon Marshall and NFL history to have a Thousand yards receiving in a season for four different or yeah for four different teams That means you had success no matter who was throwing in the ball wherever you were that was all you so we welcome You as an athlete and also the creator of I am athlete, which is not a podcast. It is a media empire. How are you? I'm great Yeah, that was special being able to play on a few different teams having 17 plus quarterbacks and having success is similar to your Your broadcasting career your media career no matter where you go what network you're on you're gonna be Special and you're gonna have a lot of success. So congratulations to you on joining the Fandall team Thanks B. Marsh and how does it feel? How does that feel? It feels good to be doing something by myself right to have like the leeway to say, okay I'll take a little bit of a risk and I'm gonna do what I want to do and Fandall is really supportive of that And I'm really grateful for the real estate, you know You did all you Can we cursing on network? I don't know. Can we let's ask the control room. They're saying All right, let's get to this right now everybody's talking about the play of the game and what a story right Jalen Watson pick six There's nothing to say about this. It was beautiful The bigger story is what happened with tight on Gerald Everett, okay? Herbert targeted him there on that interception the play before he asked to come out of the game He's clearly gassed to be Marsh. How much of what happened is on Everett? 100% on Everett right like this is what conditioning is for I've been in this position before where you get down to the red zone You're you're tired. You're exhausted Something else has to kick in for you to stay on the field and get the job done when it's red zone And it's third down your top guys need to find a way to stay on the field And if you're a tire and you're on the field and he's critical moments You you got to do your job in this instance. He did not do his job Why because when you run routes like this where you can have a An option to keep going or sit down you have to be decisive the quarterback is reading you We work on this every single day in pre and pre practice right shallow crosses if you're looking you're booking If you're not looking that means you're stopping so the quarterback is expecting you to be a certain place He's gonna throw the ball. This is 100% on the tight end. I See what you're saying I so I had a thought and I want to know your thought on this and I was gonna ask you if it's it on the Coaching staff should the coaching staff have taken him out because that's something that I'm seeing a lot on Twitter But also I guess the question is does a veteran quarterback make this decision and throw to Everett when he's clearly not a hundred percent It does he recognize that because of experience as a player or it does he look somewhere else in his read, right? Does he go to the other side of the field? I'm not putting it on Justin Herbert But we all forget that this is a young QB. He's still growing. He's still developing. Does the Tom Brady?  Third down we gotta win third down. We have to we have to have red zone efficiency Through the roof if we want to be competitive in the league So this is 100% on every but I understand I've made this mistake before But he just has to learn from it and get better and then you have Herbert himself who's out there It's not like he's mailing it in at the end of this game, right? They're down 10 He's out the coach of staff isn't put warrior totally and the injuries a huge story here We're looking for updates, but he gutted it out. He clearly had something going out with his rib What did you make of his performance and what does that do in the locker room? Listen Herbert is the he's the real deal But I was going to crush Herbert until I saw that he was dealing with something whether it's chess ribs Whatever the situation is I was going to crush him because now he's sitting here at what 17 and 19 or 16 and 18 overall record through the first three years two and a half two in the quarter Of his career like that's not good enough But we want to crush some of these other quarterbacks that come in and have success and win at the end of the day It's about winning and that's it and Herbert special talent But then you got to make sure you get that W at the end of the day But for him to go out there and gut it out through that touch I was like, you know what? Let me let me ease off of that. Let me ease off at that point Maybe week five week six. I'm having that discussion. Hopefully not because I think they have everything they need to be a contender this year Should the Chargers have pulled him out mean they're down ten. He's getting hit by Frank Clark He's got George Karloff to sell over and like what what should what should the coaching staff have done? I was saying get him out of the game Yeah, I was saying the same thing when I saw I was like, you know what, you know, it's a long season because I Mean warming up you can see his face. You can see how painful it was for him and how much pain he was in So I was like, you know what you protect your quarterback there. He's a type of guy He doesn't talk. He doesn't talk to you. He doesn't talk to me doesn't talk to media He doesn't talk to half his damn teammates This is a dude that's just going to go out there and be where he's supposed to be no matter what the situation is So I respect him for that. But when you have a Special talent that you have to protect I think Chief stands are probably real pissed at me because I'm not even talking about them And the Holmes looked good again, and it's no Tyree kill. No problem, right? The depth in this Chief's receiving core makes them really scary and they're shining He hit nine different guys again eight guys said two or more catches Is it better for him to have that one go-to star or have the depth? Is this sustainable for the Chief's? It is sustainable for the Chief's but look, let's not get it twisted cake like you you want guys that can You know do some legendary things in big moments. That's how right Tyree kill Okay, what you want is to have those stars like the Tyree kills of the world That can fit within your offense. I had to learn that early in my career Back when I was young the first four years I wanted the ball every single play and then as I got older and I matured I realized that the meat we would be more efficient as an offense if Auschwitz and Jeffrey got the ball if Martellus got the ball if Matt Forte got his 20 cut Touches because now they can't just single me out and double me, right? So it's actually better for the star receiver when the other guys are getting involved I go back to my Denver days with Eddie Roy Eddie Roy had 91 catch I had a hundred more catches you had Brandon Stokely and Tony Sheffler That had 50 catches and then you go to the Jets my boy Eric Decker Eric Decker had 90 catches 12 touchdowns a legendary year and I had a all pro year So you want to spread the wealth and it's working for him and they're really scary in that AFC right now They're looking good and credit to spags for getting this defense to make plays especially down the stretch in the fourth Quarter short week. I know they were at home But for them to have even just the power to do what they did They always spags always has coaches them up right at the moment at least he does out there in Kansas City All right, let's talk about I am athlete because there is so much going on I feel like I can't even keep track of it all you have like 90 Instagram handles. You're booking so many stars I saw the Michael Strahan episode you say it's not a podcast you say it's a movement Can you tell me the goal of your movement? It's you you're doing it. I mean you left the You know linear television. Well, I mean you're still in linear television, but with Fandle is doing it's disruptive Right Fandle is leading away in this space, right? Like it's the premier destination when it comes to sports betting and sports content You chose to leave where you're at and gum to Fandle. That is new media. You are new media We're doing things are we look at your dress. Look at your set. We don't see that, you know on traditional Television right like we're the ones that are able to get these guys So this movement is exactly what you're doing is what I'm doing is Pat McAfee like this is new media Pat you and Pat I mean, I I love don't stop snap stop stop stop me and thank you Okay, thank you You know players come in they talk to you and it's very You were this here's how I'm gonna say this the first time I ever heard an NFL player talking about mental health It was you you and I'm obviously a Bears fan and it just caught you know Just I followed your career your prolific wide receiver one of my favorites I don't think there's anybody like you in the league on the right now on the field But off of it you really trailblazed in that way Can you sort of assess for me the progress that's been made specifically in the NFL net area? Are you impressed? Do you think that there's a ways to go when it comes to how the league and teams support their players in that way? Listen, there's always work to be done right for sure But I'm super impressed and super proud of the NFL the league office for the work that they're doing Tracy Pearlman in the league office She calls me almost every other week with different opportunities or even just bringing me into the discussion Brandon What do you think about this? Are we looking at this the right way? How do we activate some of these partnerships? How do we get our teams to do more? I mean when I did when I came out in In 2011 August 4th 2011, I told the world, you know what I was experiencing what I've gone through what I want to do moving forward You know, I was the only one now you look up not only in football But in all sports you have the Dak Prescott's the name me Osaka's the Simone Biles the Kevin loves of the world standing up saying Listen, this is what I deal with and this is important now, Kate We have to do is get our guys to respond in that react like Calvin Ridley. I feel something. I can't play Practice you have Naomi and Simone. Well, this is what's going on with me. I need time Yes, there is a time and place for that But also if we have the proper things in place we can probably work through these things so we need to look at the Athletes and sports as a microcosm to what we could be doing in other places, right? Like be proactive take care of your mental health. It's important It's the most important thing that you have it's something you talked about I really think that your authenticity always at a podium After your career during your career, you've always kept it real and I think that's why players relate to you Even players that are like just coming into the game right now and they're sitting down with you on I am athlete And I just think it's really really really cool And I loved your training camp tour and my favorite was you and Joe Burrow, which was amazing Tell me what he's made of as a man a leader. What did you learn? You know what it's almost as if he's Like he's not made up of much and this is not a bad thing because he's super bright He's a loving guy, but it's just like it's like still like nothing rattles this kid like he's so amazing and he's so Calm cool collected. He's so humble. He's just like one way all the time whether it's good whether it's bad That was my biggest takeaway, right? Like some guys walk in the room and the room may change them He walks in the room and the room changes to whatever he's putting out Joe Burrow and all those guys at that table Really impressed me because they're superstars year one year two. They find a way in the Super Bowl. They're playing You know lights out football, but they still have this brotherhood They still have this love and they still have this sense of humility Which a lot of guys lose when they get to this level and just in their careers So I was really impressed with Joe Joe Joe is going to be you know He's going to be a Hall of Famer. Damn. I said that what is this year three for him? Yeah, I'm calling him a Hall of Famer started with an injury. Yeah, he's that guy took his team The Super Bowl got to take his team to the win column here in week two now He does have Jamar chase so I think you met when you're out there, too They have perfect chemistry right that carries over from college a lot of these stud wide receivers moved this off season Which wide receiver do you think landed in the best situation? Obviously AJ Brown Devonte Tyree? Who's who's gonna end up on top? AJ Brown Oh my goodness fly equals fly. Did you see him in week one when did he go with ten ten catches a hundred fifty-five yards? I think it was crazy.  I mean he was breaking tackles Legendary he he is in the best position. Yeah, I love AJ Brown and right now. I got Justin Jefferson number one I got AJ Brown number two and then I put Devonte Adam still there out of respect But right now Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver in the league and the number two is AJ Brown But it's close What top what I Justin Jefferson's one Cooper cup here. Here's the deal with Cooper cup right like Right now. He's top five. He's top five. Okay.  But you know, he's getting a lot of targets and they're moving them all around So a lot of guys what they're saying out there what they are saying that me This is just my ear to the street what the guys are saying is look I want to see why receivers go to one side and it's Mono Imano Can you beat me play after play after play? That's what they want to see right and step on digs you get that out of step on digs You get that out of you know the islands of the world the Kenan islands of the world You get that out of Tariq Hills of the world. So that's the debate around Cooper cup Can he do that if he just lines up two yards outside the numbers? Yeah, and go Mono Imano with the best of the best And where does he stack up?  Yeah, I know I know I was thinking about who compares to you and it's sort of impossible to do the body size the speed the toughness There's no you in today's game. You're very unique, right? So is there anyone in the league who does sort of mirror your game because to me you're like if Mike Evans AJ Brown and Mike Williams had a baby that would be you Wow, you took the words out of my that's really good. That's really good. Yes It's AJ Brown and Mike Evans put them together. Yeah, but I'm not it's I'm not I'm not I wasn't as explosive as AJ Brown But toughness he was so good. I'm telling you the eagle. I think that's the best addition, but I can't believe you have Devontae Adams at three. All right quickly last one for you. I'm gonna ask you. Let me try to see Oh, I want to ask you about you and Alshon's while we're just getting these hot takes out of you It'll be all over Twitter you and Alshon had this special season I mean you mentioned Eddie Royle, which I just love when you were out in Denver But 2013 1400 yards for Alshon you had a smidged under 1312 touchdowns to me as a Bears fan. It was iconic. They pulled out a win in week one somehow But is there a duo that you think is the best today? We know who you think the best wide receiver is there a duo you like Yeah, I still like Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson. That's it phenomenal there Help me out here. Who else do we have out there? I love I think Cincinnati that Yeah, but I wouldn't put them at number one right now Like I and then also one to look out for what gave Davis and step on digs We know who step on digs is gave Davis. Did you yeah? I know you watched him But this is like my favorite thing to say right now TV right now. Did you watch gave Davis opening night? Yeah, he had that last year it's it sort of carried over from last year gave Davis emerging and they had you know Josh Allen just on another level they might win the Super Bowl. I'd be happy to see it. I Love it. Do you think so? Oh, you got them in a Super Bowl. Hey Chicago not no as everybody does I don't know I forgot I don't even know if I picked a Super Bowl quickly. We talked bears. They got the Packers Sunday night big game You know that rivalry. Well, I'm not gonna ask you about X's and O's You know, I'm from there Do you have faith in the Chicago Bears organization to turn the fortunes of their team? No, I do not I Do not I'm sorry. I I love the city of Chicago It was one of my favorite experiences. It's the best sports town in a whole wide world, right? Like I had to fight, you know the city of Chicago so I can pay for my own meals. They took care of me They still show me a lot of love Awesome there, but management It's not in a good place and that's it's just not it's not it's the Chicago Bears This is the Chicago Bears How have we been sitting here at the bottom of it and a fail for this long? Shouldn't happen at all at all. This is a premier team, right? This is the Chicago Bears They should not be this bad for this long at all. I know they're looking they're very angry fan base They're looking for something to hold on to they won over the in sloppy conditions over Trey Lance and the Niners And it was as if they had won a Super Bowl. They were so excited about it They're those fans I feel for them. They're looking for something to hold on to Brenda Marshall You were the absolute best takes on takes as always. I am athlete podcast. Who's on next?  I'm sorry. Are you joking? No, I'm being serious. He's coming on how Mikey's coming on. Yeah, we got Mikey coming out Monday Conrad. What'd you say? He's a Hooper from Southern, California as he's telling me in my air. Thanks Conrad. Okay, Brenda Marshall. We appreciate you We'll be back with more season football. Love you. You're the best. I'm so happy for your success. He's the best All right, Mike Williams one of the the ingredients to make a brand of Marshall The NFL had himself a date wasn't enough for the Chargers. We'll get to the chief side of things might take away the next Oh Thursday night football kickoff to week two It is my favorite rivalry. We needed a good rivalry in the NFL This is one I'm sticking to year in year out close games as always And the chiefs get a win at home. Uh, the night was all about the Watson's listen I love a Watson I can cheer for we're looking for one in the NFL We had two last night Justin Watson 41 yard receiving Touchdown in the third quarter that was his first catch as a chief You love to see it and then what a moment with Jalen Watson the play of the game, of course You've seen it everywhere. This is a seventh round rookie You know 99 yard pick six. What else can you say? Gerald Everett not ready gasped for this one who cares about any of that? This is what matters It is this and if you're wondering That Watson this Watson. Yeah, congrats to the chiefs on this and not even the defensive play, which obviously was incredible And Herbert testament to him playing through injury with the depth of Kansas City is a winning formula The depth of Kansas City Is a winning formula. You heard what Dante Hall said Distribute the ball. You heard what Brandon Marshall said. Don't force it. Have a balanced offense Two straight games now with nine players with one or more catches. Okay spags I said it before deserves credit for getting that defense to step up l michael sort of uh, Invoked number 95 christ jones late in the game. He was a quiet rumbling volcano for about three quarters And then what does he do turns it up a notch just when he needed to and they do that a lot On the charger side Heroic effort from Herbert didn't love to see it. Maybe pull him out when you're down 10 Maybe protect him from the likes of frank clark out there when you're down but then again a warrior and and Do Brandon Marshall say it goes a long way in the locker room kind of he said that he You know if Brandon Marshall clowned on him for his win-loss record And then after this gutsy performance in a loss gained respect for him and started to think about him a different way That's all you need to know Brandon Marshall keeps it all the way real that means that locker room That means keen and allen in his rehab who's obviously dealing with injuries since he got into the league after his rookie season When you have injuries to you know or You're gassed when you're whatever you're gonna get up and try to run through a wall For justin harbert. He's going through a battery of tests. That's all we know today Sort of mum staley was asked about it and he sort of said. Oh, it was a tough game He took a lot of hits, you know, he's our quarterback Uh and speaking of toughness conrad company, not you You're not you're not Back with this background marissa mcbride. You were in trouble. You were supposed to change the background. There it is Oh, okay.  No, is that wisconson playing? Who's who's who are they playing? This this actually really hurts. This this really hurts. Who's playing new mexico wisconson. Oh, yeah Yeah, well, I don't know if you're a fan of wisconson. You're from ohio, but you talk a year from georgia Like I don't know anything about you. Okay. Listen, but let's get into this Durwin james talk to me because you all morning have been barking about durwin james I mean the the entire world's been barking about durwin james. Look at this guy. He got that dog in him. Okay He got that dog in him. I mean, how many guys, you know can pick up travis kelsey And do a full suplex on a grown man like that He's actually extremely lucky that jc jackson touches it right there because if not that's straight on the back durwin james Yeah, Adams. Yeah, he got that dog in him. Got that dog. Do we have the x-ray? I'm waiting. Oh, of course you do Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're so cool and hip on this. Oh, I love it Here's the thing though durwin james all over the field last night Didn't matter couldn't squeak out the wind so conrad. I mean, they've got 10 days of rest Which is great the benefit of all this right? They've got the jags. Maybe it's a get right game I don't think the jags should be super competitive in this one. Uh, but it wasn't enough so I To to a you know, I don't want to admit it but brandon marshall's not wrong like great So exciting well rounded brandon's daily blah blah blah, but like you got to get wins You have to well that I think everybody was surprised the brandon's daily We saw last year was so aggressive and last night he was so conservative He went free wins for it though. He just didn't go for it every time. No, he didn't I mean like and that's and that's just it I mean at the end of the game They they they march herbert back out there. They got down the field They got the last touchdown, but it was just a little bit too late and you know what everyone knows I know I know everyone knows the pick six is what ended it But that drive after when uh, they got the ball back. Yeah, they were just they were gas themselves There's no way they were going down the field this quarter. Good luck to the new mexico aggies Thank you for injecting an x-ray with a dog inside of it. That makes a lot of sense here This is up in adams now. It's time to head out to our nfl reporters covering some of the biggest matchups this weekend This guy covers the Baltimore Ravens for the athletic. Please welcome in jeff's rebeck. How are you? Good. Good morning jeff. I think that's uh, that's a polish last name. No Yes, that is very good. See look we're like very impressive. This is great Okay, the ravens take on the dolphins this week Last season the ravens suffered a tough loss to those dolphins that dolphins defense that looked pretty good in siphoning new Elina patriots last week. Uh, what do you got on this? What are you looking for? Yeah, to credit to the ravens. They're not exactly running from that game You know, they've been pretty upfront about how that game left You know a serious mark on their season their offense, you know injuries had a lot to do with it But their offense really never recovered from there. They were never the same offensive team After that game. So, uh, they understand they're gonna have to be much better. They understand they're gonna have to have a better plan Uh for the miami blitz and the aggressiveness miami shows and they've had a long time to work on this John harba admitted This is something all off season. They were looking at so, uh, they expect the results to be different And and it's a really big game for them to show that. Yeah, lino lamar jackson, of course betting on himself He bulked up a bit this off season. Uh, has it changed the ravens approach on offense? No, I don't think so. Um, I I think the good part of the week one was you saw him take several shots down the field And make several big plays that was sort of how the game was going and and that's what they needed to do And uh, you know, that's always been the thing with the ravens Can they create enough big plays downfield to be a really dangerous offense in addition to the running game? But it is a different offensive team a little bit You know, we have it, you know, lamar jackson only ran the ball four times Last week and only two of them were called runs I think that was more of a case they kind of felt like they didn't need to last week And this could be different, but they definitely need to get their run game going They didn't run the ball well in the preseason and they did not run the ball well Last week and if they're going to be the offense they want to be You know, they have to be able to have that consistent running game Is the con you know, I have you on and I don't want to ask you about the contract thing because I know it's shelved But I have to ask you about the contract thing because it's crazy. Is it something that's looming still? You know, I didn't get any popcorn. So I apparently didn't ask lamar jackson the right questions the other day Uh, unfortunately, I still kind of haven't gotten over that but you know what the thing It's interesting because he's sort of Serving as his own agent and all this it's not really it It seems like the guy's the locker room is curious as all the media and the fans about it I mean lamar hasn't made it a big deal. He doesn't want to talk about it. He hasn't been talking about it with his teammates Um, it's not going away. Let's be honest. We'd be naive to think it's just going to suddenly go away Every game lamar plays this year is going to kind of serve as a referendum on his contract. Should he get paid more? Should he have turned that deal down? I think we all know that it's not going away But I don't think in terms of a day-to-day distraction I wouldn't say it's that marking room said pay the man pay the man former raven and he loves him And I we all of course wish it was that easy and you know, he only ran four times on those four runs I'm going. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Please stay healthy. We don't need another jack prescott situation Oh quickly. I saw marlin humphrey my favorite on the injury report Is it from tweeting too much? Does he have like carpal tunnel in his thumbs or what's the story quickly? Yeah, I guess he tweaked his groin a little bit and uh, you know, this is not a This is not a good week where you want to have some question marks at corner And the ravens have that a little bit after losing kyle fuller on sunday to a cl The good news is marcus peters looks like he's getting back now. I'm not positive. It's going to be sunday But he's certainly getting closer. He was a full participant in practice thursday for the first time You know, you don't want to lose anybody but getting an all pro like peters back will be a huge development for this defense But sunday, they're gonna have to figure it out because they're definitely a little bit sure-handed this at cornerback He's the polish dynamo covering the ravens for the athletic jeff's. We appreciate you. Enjoy the game I hope you get a win here as we flip things over to the saint side of things That's right new orleans beat writer for new orleans dot football. Oh my gosh. We finally meet this year Like my twitter friend for 10 years. How are you nick under them? They kind of put us together there, uh, because you know, you you got your thing with the saints But yeah, for sure. It's it's cool to be on here. Thank you. Let's start with an injury report here Of course big game when the saints, you know do pretty well and against the buccaneers. What do we need to know about alvin? Yeah, I think it's probably like a 40 60 chance. He plays he has a little rib cartilage injury Um after the game he thought he was fine But it's a situation that's definitely worth monitoring at this point. He practiced on wednesday. He did not practice yesterday We'll see today. I know they kind of ordered a little plaque jacket type thing for him So, um, we'll see how that comes together. I talked to ingram this week. Uh, let's just take a little listen to that He talked about the receiver room Talk to me about this wide receiver room because it went from zero to 100 very real quick real quick Talk about mike thomas last time he played a four seasons offensive player a year Um, you got chris olave man young smooth man. He's cold. Then you got juice landry I mean, I mean that's just the name speaks for itself. He bring that juice. I got the juice with me You know, I mean How's the group coming together and I mean high praise for mark ingram was everyone's biggest height man And how was having michael thomas back? Yeah, look, it's a world of difference last year at this time. Chris hogan was out there catching touchdown passes for them And now they got three guys chris olave has looked amazing. Mike thomas looks like he's on his way back He had the two uh touchdowns Contested catches and I think that just gives jamas a lot of confidence knowing he can throw Passes the guys that are gonna actually catch him this year and make those tough plays last year We didn't see a lot of tight window throws and uh Jarvis landry three million dollars like I don't know what a wins worth in the nfl But it's probably close to three million bucks and he kind of delivered one last week So he kind of looks like the biggest steal in the league to me right now Yeah, uh does denise allen feel comfortable when he's at the podium the things that you're seeing mannerisms the way He's dealing with the media. How's it going? Yeah, he's been great. Look, I mean the biggest thing is it's really kind of shocking that Sean's gone because it doesn't really feel like Sean's gone the culture feels really Similar uh things are maybe a little bit looser's media side We're allowed to walk places. We weren't allowed to walk before and that the team wise Everything really kind of feels the same and I think that was important. Like they needed that continuity. This is a good team They didn't need to blow it up So hiring da I think kind of preserves that so guys like mark and cam and them aren't looking at it like You know, what the hell is going on? Why are you blowing everything up? Like we built this and it works So I think that's been really important for them in uh so far so good And I think it's a testament to shan pey and it was effective It worked so long and to have players buy in year in year out to the same coach is not an easy thing Uh and he did it year in year out and has a lot of respect for denise allen He told me I asked him you got this game against the bucks. You're the brady whisperer You can take care of business does denise allen have the chief code and he said he certainly does of course being the Former defensive coordinator, uh, you know the saints are they going to continue to give tom brady fits this weekend? Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the the more interesting stories in the league They play them twice a year and they solve them twice a year and brady figures out every defense You know, the key to that is just really the disguise moving the safeties around Lionbackers drop into different depths and I think they can do that better this year with tyron matthew and marcus may because before Marcus williams was a deep safety. So you looked at him and you kind of knew okay He's going to be deep on most of these plays these two guys can go anywhere and even last week we saw some of that, uh Tyron playing on the line one guy showing he's going down one guy showing He's going deep and then you know ready to snap one of them declare So if they can keep brady's eyes moving around and get pressure with that front four It could continue at some point. It feels like brady's got to figure it out But it's uh one of the crazier things going in the league right now. See how they handle julio We know how they handle mike evans marshal latimer has had success against him Of course, uh, tom has six touchdowns just to get this out there six touchdowns to eight interceptions And those four losses to the saints I'll just leave that there and say have a good weekend covering those saints against those buccaneers and nick underhill We appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. We're not done. We've got more Big yes coming up. How about peter king? He'll stop by the show and i'm gonna drink a beer for his recommendation Also, uh, yeah in honor of a chief's win and the fact that danta hell was in studio with us Who or what do you think is the x-factor for your team to get a win week two? We'll tweets on the airwaves next What a wild tnf uh our next guest one of the most prolific and well regarded nfl writers of all time His column football morning in america is an absolute weekly must read three time national sports writer of the year from nbc sports peter king How are you? Great to be with you k. How are you good luck? You were saying in the break long time No see you and i used to be in those green rooms when i I didn't even have money for the train on the metro north and i would steal bags of popcorn in my bag So i had dinner that was those those were those days You were great at si and i'm so glad for your success congrats. Thank you peter Let's get into a great game last night chargers chiefs so many storylines. What popped out to you? Two things one. I thought the uh replay overturn Of the interception by asante samuel jr. Was horse crap Um, I didn't think there was enough evidence to overturn that number two I also thought that uh, justin herbert. This is not any just Garden variety. Oh, well, he's fine.  He'll be ready to go next week I don't know if he'll be ready to go or not, but that did not look any garden variety injury It looked like he might have some ribs or rib cartilage thing that was not the wind being You know blown out of you and then I think the other thing is Right now post tyreek hill Look at patrick mahomes seven touchdowns. No interceptions six different receivers Okay, I have a feeling that it's nothing that patrick mahomes will ever say or andy reed will ever say Say it peter, but I do think they're saying to tyreek hill Hey, you know what? We weren't a one-man team last year. We'll be fine Or if it wasn't one-man team, they were trying to force it to him too much And now he has several options and uh debt debt will win them a championship The afc should be on notice. Uh, let's talk about your column. I saw that you wrote. Um, I don't even it's not even a column It's like a masterpiece work of art But you had kevin o'Connell as your coach of the week right off the bat after they went over the packers Why is he a good fit and can it continue? Look, I sensed it when I visited their training camp this team needed Not a breath of fresh air. They needed You know an oxygen tank of fresh air Because they were tired of mike zimmer and they bring in kevin o'Connell. He is the ultimate teacher He doesn't raise his voice He's just uh, he's he's a communicator and he's a teacher And you can see how much How easy it is now for kirk cousins To basically work within the confines of this offense He loves the offense and I think this is going to be a really interesting season For this offense particularly because you saw Everybody knows that justin jefferson is getting the ball. Why was he open all the time? That is kevin o'Connell And that'll be every defense scratching their heads and every fan at home saying that week in week out And it doesn't hurt that he has toys like adam thielen Uh in delvin cook to play with as well now. You're in new york city. I'm here in l. A Uh, I want to go back because I want to root for the giants I live there for 10 years and couldn't root for the giants. dabel makes his debut Are times a change in the new york city?  And so he chose to go for it Uh on a two-point conversion and hand the ball to Shovel the ball to uh sake one barkley. What was really interesting about this k is that he allowed Mike kafka his offensive coordinator who brought that play From kansas city He allowed kafka to make that decision On that last play and brian dabel is an offensive coach But he believes that if you give the assignment As a play caller to your offensive coordinator, you can't take it away on the biggest play of the game So his coaching staff loves that and his players love it credit to him. Also, I'm sure I'm the new york giants fans Love seeing daniel jones get a little grief on the sideline from his new head coach Uh, I want to ask you about what the appointment reading every week for football fans It is so incredible, but it must be Like a it's just a goliath a monstrous undertaking if you could give us a look into the process How do you attack that thing every week? You know, basically I take tuesday and wednesday and I don't do a damn thing other than my podcast And then I wake up thursday morning and I start thinking about what's interesting about this week And then I sit down and start writing a bunch of the flotsam and jetsam on friday morning And then, uh, I write a lot before you can't write an 11 000 word column in one day And so there's a lot of stuff that is done By noon on sunday eastern time probably 5 000 words every week and then it is just a sprint to the finish line I try to finish about 230 or three o'clock in the morning and the one other thing k I'm really fortunate because Covering the league for 39 years you build some relationships. So if I text somebody On sunday and say hey, I really need you. I'll usually get a phone call from that person And so I don't know everybody, but I know a lot of people and that's basically how you're able to get People on the phone after games and to be able to interpret And and to try to dive deep into what exactly happened 39 years Let's toast to that because in your column you uh in football morning in america You talk about beer nerdness. I have a bartender here. Am I going with the morning peroni? Or am I going with the alagash white my friend? Oh my god k wait a second It's 11 44 a.m. Is we're recording this eastern time that's 8 44 where you are How can you have a beer right now? Who sings the it's five o'clock somewhere song? Kenny chesney, who is that somebody does somebody you gotta take the alagash Listen alagash this is this is in my fridge. This is a good summer beer. We're moving it to fall I might need another recommendation, but it is beer nerdness Uh and and we appreciate you and cheers to you this morning peter king from nvc sports Read the column every week. It makes you smarter and thank you for all your work 39 years toasting to you my friend peter king. We'll be back on up and adams Hmm Yes Play these guys trey lans good price tag rough week one But we bounce his back because the average is 13 carries a game over his three career starts Please play him jamal williams. Yeah, the understift is amazing, but jamal is still a thing He was also the lion's red zone back two touchdowns play him and tyler higby $5,300 on fandal clearly a chemistry that he has with matthew stafford Uh, he looked his way 11 times thursday night. He caught five for 30 a but listen that kind of volume You like a df. Yes Yesterday on the show. We had the tremendous daunte hall and we just love the studio guests if you're an la Your player.  You're famous come to the studio and hang out with us Um, he was one of the best return specialists of course in history and in honor of that Plus. Okay. What are we doing here? We're still looking at df. Yes. What do we got? Bye But the baddest return specialist in the history of the game. You still got it chano. You still got it easy There I got this one Tyree kill is gone. Oh I'm kidding. That's my boy. I'm kidding. That's my boy. What's the show you wear? Do you wear this to the con? Well, this is what I um Found last year doing the playoffs bury me at arrowhead and I will cheer from the gray. Well, that's morbid, but I love it I like it. He was so much fun. I loved it. He's chiefs one producer conrad. I'm drunk I was supposed to lay out for that sound and I'm just talking like what's going on next Talk to me. Let's talk x factors in honor of dante hall's appearance on our show. What do you got x factor? You know, okay, let's blaze through some of these games and you're gonna give me the x factor Yeah, let's get some music in here. All right on first k We're gonna falcons rams falcons rams. Give me your x factor. I'm gonna go alan robinson. What was that? What was that just one catch for 12 yards last week on two targets The rams need him if they're gonna get back on track. It cannot just be all cooper cup Bram Marshall doesn't even clean cooper cups a good receiver. What's going on here? So I just feels like this should be a time to get him involved go Patriots sealers, let's get to it I'm gonna go with the alabama boys in this one the harris boys not related But nagi dealing with whatever's going on with his live fronk left the game says he's playing Okay, and damien harris on the other side These are two running backs that need to help their quarterbacks coming off bad weeks and slow starts in week one harris boys Bama boys get it done Love it last but not least texans at broncos. Well, we know We know jerry judy went off. We love a jerry judy We love him a lot. So we're going to go with courtland's that and the other guy We call jerry courtland needs to get involved. Let me ask you one yard fumble within the what what could maybe help that? I don't know a big tight end Goal target guy A red zone. Wow am I drunk after two sips of beer potentially? Is that a new breakfast, maybe? Uh, but he's the guy, right? He had four catches for 72 yards as I see They need to start featuring him more in the red zone and maybe those fumble rusky issues go away Absolutely now. We got to go to break jeff schwarz up next on the other side just take it away All right, we got to go here alex high smith for the stealers is the x-factor without tj He's got to step up him. Okay him and minko. We got to get it done We'll be back Annabelle veteran and current gambling analyst at fox sports jeff schwarz You are here for a bit of a fire drill two minute warning in our show Let's go looking at some of the matchups that you like see off that niners go on the macro machines Let's go niners here I think there's an overreaction to their loss and the seahawks win guys jino smith Was uh, what six of 10 for 31 yards in second half Of that came on on Monday night niners are desperate here for a win. They're just a better team overall I think they get one here and get one in a big way Okay, I'm gonna start one-on-one though panthers a giant I know I'm just I'm just putting that out there giants panthers go Um again another kind of overreaction to week one right? I mean carolina played well in the second half of this game made a furious comeback against the browns Just wasn't enough. They lost on a 59 yard field goal Where the giants kind of made a furious comeback on the other side and beat the tines in a game They really had no business. I think the panthers are the better team right now They have the better quarterback as well the better defense. I'll take the panthers on the road Daniel jones by the way awful awful met life stadium in his career Ah Awful in his career the giants looking for the first two in this earth. I was since 2016. I'm loving my life I just want everyone to know bangles cowboys talk to me Uh, yeah, I'm gonna go with the big public play here and go with the bangles guys Obviously we saw last weekend minus five and turnovers almost that chance to win this game They're gonna bounce back in a big way the cowboys are a mess even before that press I got hurt They weren't playing very well now. McCarthy's blaming killing more for the offense I'm gonna take more of a role in this. I think the bangles go in there as I mentioned the other day K I feel like the preseason no preseason did not help them. They'll play better in game in game two I know it's public. Whatever. I'll take the bangles here in a big way Yeah, that offensive line needs to gel bangles looking for their first win in dallas since 1988 unbelievable bears and packers old rivalry What he got Yeah, this one's easy right the packers last season they lost 38 to three in week one We all panicked We thought they weren't gonna do well that came in next weekend and blew out their opponent The packers are gonna be fine guys. They're off its line in their back practicing Look if watson doesn't drop that pass on the first drive of the game This game is totally different, right? I think we agree on that the bears again We cannot overreact to week one. Okay. They won a game in the rain where the Niners outplayed them some turnovers issues I'll take the packers here in a big way at home against the bears packers have won six straight over chicago Dolphins at ravens to wrap it up. Look we fit them all in cheers. Yes, we got it. Yes I'm going I'm going the ravens here.  I think baltimore could take advantage of that with the marjax and the playmakers They have on the edge. I think baltimore wins this game obviously covers this game. I'll take the ravens Yeah, I'm the dolphins deep in something. I believe in a little bit in lat this matchup last year They totally took care of business and stifled the mar and companies So this defense has to show me that they're the real deal and so it is that offense for the ravens We had jeff's reback who covers them for the athletic tell us they need to get the run game going Which is something you don't think you ever have to tell and warn this baltimore offense to do The dolphins have not won in baltimore by the way since 1997 the first ever game played between those two squads We made it cheers to you jeff's sports Our gambling Fox sports like well, I can't this should be every friday conrad can this be every friday? It can be k. It came, you know, we actually got a great tweet too. Let's take this tweet Can we pull this up real quick before we get out of here? Yeah, we're drinking a beer Do you like how peter keys like you can't do that and I said I do I want All right. Thank you to brandon marshal jeff's reback nick under hell and jeff's awards. We'll see you on monday