Hello, welcome to the Jenkins Online Meetup. Today we have a discussion about the DevOps World Community Agenda and call for playbooks. So, DevOps World is one of the biggest events related to DevOps. It's a conference which this year happens online and free to attend for everyone. There is a strong community agenda there. The Jenkins project has been a part of this conference since the very beginning. Hence, we do this presentation today so that we can discuss all the matters. Let's continue. Again, it will be quite a relaxed presentation. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. First of all, I would like to welcome our new Meetup host, Rick. A few weeks ago, we made a call in the community that we are looking for more contributors who want to help us with online events. It's really important because community is not just about submitting code. Jenkins community needs all kinds of contributions, including helping with organizing events, spreading the word. We have multiple contributors who followed up. Today we first meet up with new participants. Rick, would you like to quickly introduce yourself? Okay. Hello, I'm Rick. I'm from China. I love Jenkins very much, not because the open source projector, because the most important Jenkins community is very friendly for everyone who is interested in open source. When I tried to promote Jenkins in China, actually, the history of Jenkins is larger than my personal work experience. A lot of people, Chinese people are using Jenkins, but I did something to promote it. English is our second language. I translate a lot of documents and do some localization in China to make it much easier for Chinese users. As we know, social media is also very important, so we have a WeChat group, WeChat account. It's very similar with Twitter. We have a lot of followers, like 15,000 followers of Jenkins, WeChat account. The second thing I want to mention is Jenkins there. I wrote it in Golan, because it will be much easier for users who want to install it. As we know, Java always needs a JVM, so it might be not very handy sometimes. The third thing I want to do is KubeSphere. KubeSphere is an open source projector. Jenkins is the core engine of the Delfts module. I think my colleague can have much more introduction about KubeSphere in case someone might be interested in this. Mr. Pan, do you want to introduce KubeSphere for us? Maybe a few minutes. Can you submit up? Maybe just a brief introduction of what is KubeSphere. Let me briefly introduce what is KubeSphere. KubeSphere is a distributed operating system managing cloud native applications with Kubernetes as its kernel, and KubeSphere has developed a CSE platform based on Jenkins. KubeSphere provides a plug and play architecture for a third-party application, similar to integration into its ecosystem. You can position KubeSphere as an open source container platform to deploy and manage your cloud native applications, you know, Helm charts, or Docker containers, or any kind of cloud native applications. I will have a presentation in this month or next month to introduce how to use Jenkins in KubeSphere, basically something like how to use Jenkins in Kubernetes. Okay, that's all good. Thank you. Yeah, so if you want to discuss more stay until the end of the meet-up, we can discuss more KubeSphere. Mandre, would you like to introduce yourself? Yeah, definitely. My name is Dimathri and I'm from India. I love open source a lot. I started my career learning from the open source, contributing to the open source a lot. And recently, the main background of mine is in the development field as well. Recently joined Jenkins, and it's a very interesting open group of open source contributors, talented people. And I would love to contribute whatever way I can as much as I can. So that's it from my side. Yeah, thank you. And we also have two DevOpsVolta program committee members today. So Victor and me. Victor, would you like to introduce yourself? Hi everyone. So I'm Victor Martinez. So I've been probably, as you already know me, in a few places. I've been a contributor for Jenkins for a long period of time. I'm happy this year to be in the program committee for review of the call for paper. So happy to do my best there. Yeah, that's pretty much me. So I'll follow Victor for more information about Sikeslink. Okay, and yeah, I'm Jenkins, board member. I'm also acting events officer. So this role in the project was responsible for organizing various events and cardinic thing them. Yeah, I'm quite active Jenkins contributor at the moment. So let's continue to the main part. We spent quite a long time today on the introductions, but yeah, my plan is to actually do a really quick introduction to what is DevOpsVolta and then we will discuss how call for papers work. And then we will just have a Q&A here where we will be able to answer any kinds of questions related to DevOpsVolta agenda, community booth, or whatever, whatever. Okay, if you have any questions during the presentation, please use Zoom Q&A. Everyone has a button for that. And also after the meet up, after the main part, we will stop the recording. And everyone will be able to ask any kinds of questions of the record, we will grant voice permissions. And if you want to stay to talk, for example, about CFP to discuss your particular ideas, or just to talk about what cubes here, we can stay after the meet up for additional 30 minutes and discuss all of that. For all final questions, we have a channel started in the CDF workspace called DevOpsVolta call for papers. So if you want to, you can use this chart to ask questions about the applications. And you can join this Slack workspace by following the guidelines here. So maybe somebody from the audience could share a link to this presentation so that you can just open that and follow all the links. And yeah, thanks to the Continuous Liberty Foundation and CalVis for sponsoring the meet up platform and for sponsoring meet ups because without them, it would be quite different, difficult to organize a little bit. Okay, let's start from the conference. Okay, so yeah, let's continue. So yeah, what is DevOpsVolta? Actually, this conference had started in 2011. It started as Jenkins user conference. It was firstly a small event where there were around 100 participants and then the conference room. And for example, last year, we had 25,000 registrations and more than 3000 participants on the conference. It's an online event. And the most recent offline event in San Francisco was also about 3000 participants. So you may have heard about this event as Jenkins World also. But it evolved and now it focuses on all the areas related to DevOps as a culture, as tooling ecosystem. It also covers topics like leadership. It invites a lot of practitioners to take their stories. And there is also community representation. So all open source projects are welcome DevOpsVolta whether they're a member of the Continuous Liberty Foundation or not. So yeah, this is a quite big community event. What we still have quite strong Jenkins representation there. And Jenkins is still considered as a major community event. And let's talk why. So firstly, Jenkins is represented at Keynotes. We use this event to do major announcements when feasible. We also do that to talk about the direction for the project and the initiatives happening there. So here, for example, you can see KK founder of Jenkins talking about 15 years of Jenkins. We celebrated this three years ago. So yeah, and we use conferences for that. Also, yeah, there is a lot of Jenkins talks. So Jenkins agenda is about 20 to 30% of DevOpsVolta agenda at the moment. So it's about dozens of talks. There are many key contributors presenting. For example, here you can see Mark Wade, he's the author of the Git plugin, leader of the platform CIC. And he's Lim Neumann, who is one of the major contributors to the Jenkins pipeline ecosystem. And from what I can see, Lim is doing whatever presentation about Jenkins pipeline. And yeah, again, you can meet any contributors. And we actually welcome all kinds of talks, including hardcore talks by developers, like for example, I did a presentation about the remote internals, its communication layer in Jenkins. Also newcomer talks are welcome, so that if you want to present a particular feature or show your story about how you use Jenkins, you can also participate in this event. Then it's not about talks, we also have a community booth. And this community booth is actually a center where we have a community gathering and hanging out. So if you have ever participated in an event like FOSDEM or scale, community booth is basically our representation of community at DevOpsVolta. There are always contributors hanging out there from different companies, from different projects. And we also use them to organize various live demos. So for example, here you can see Abhudeh Sharma, he's one of GSOC 2019 students. He was working on no-strategy performance improvements. And yeah, he or as many other students visited DevOpsVolta to present. And he's also a GSOC team, but at another conference in the United States, this one in Lisbon. And yeah, we also organize Ask the Experts booth, so any Jenkins user can come and ask questions from expert contributors and get the answers. So we usually have a really high traffic in the community booth. And yeah, it's not just about stickers. At online events, we also have a booth. Another thing we have at DevOpsVolta and the JenkinsVolta tradition is contributor summit. So what it means, it's a full day event where we talk about Jenkins as contributors, advanced user cells invited to participate, especially if they're interested in contributing to the project. But the main goal is to talk about Jenkins future and key initiatives. So basically, it's organized as a conference with several tracks. For example, there we talked about things like joining continuous liver foundation, pluggable storage for Jenkins. Or when Jenkins X started again, we had a huge brainstorming about how we would like to see Jenkins as a cloud native application. So it was one of initial discussions for Jenkins X. And again, it's a conference. So the agenda depends on what actually happens. Also, in another photo from contributor summit, so now we are not just celebrating, we actually have a lot of talks. We also used to run community awards at DevOpsVolta. So here you can see a real course, currently Jenkins governance board member and major contributor to the configuration as code plugin. So currently community awards will be happening at the CDCon. So it's another conference scheduled for June 25. And the Alliance for Nominations is actually this week, Friday. So if you want to nominate someone, there is still opportunity. And yeah, but there will be no community awards at DevOpsVolta this year, at least in the current plan. We also have a lot of community bonnets events, including going to the bar after the event, hanging somewhere in the hotel. Well, when the event person is in person or just staying at various happy hours, etc., the event is remote. And yeah, when we had 15 years of Jenkins, we also had multiple kicks at conferences, again in the community booths. It was a fun time. And last but not least, we also organized hackathons during the conference. So it's, let's say, limited events. We invite something like 20 to 30 contributors from different areas to work together and to just hug particular projects. For example, we worked on Java 11 support. We also worked on new security scanning engines. We have created significant parts of a new one, CNG plugin together with other contributors during this hackathon. So yeah, again, it's a community event which you can join. And now since it's online, I'm not sure whether we will be organizing that to be seen. Okay, so this is a community agenda. And again, it's not just about talks. There are many other things to do. Do we have any questions so far? No, no questions. Okay, so if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to use Kone. And yeah, now we will go to real content. And the real content is actually about call for papers. And yeah, there will be less photos in this part. So yeah, first of all, yeah, this year the conference will happen in September from 28th to 30th. There might be also satellite events before and after the conference. It's yet to be decided. This conference will be absolutely free to participate, except particular workshops. But yeah, the main conference including call trucks, community truck, et cetera, it's available. The registration is yet to be published. But yeah, it will be available. And the conference is fully virtual. So it will happen remotely. Again, time zones, et cetera, to be different, determine how it will happen. The landing site for the event is here, DevOps world. So yeah, basically you can explore all the information here and you can sign up for notifications when the registration opens. Which is something good thing to do for me. Okay, so what else? Yeah, the current plan, again, it's yet to be announced. We will have two days of conference with main tracks, and there are multiple tracks to be available. So the first list community track, it's fully focused on open source projects and on open source communities, including how to build to the DevOps community or just presented particular areas. There will be a practitioner track, which is focused on basically user stories. And again, Jenkins has historically represented that quite well. There will be the continuous Liberty Foundation track. Basically, it's another site of community track where the continuous Liberty Foundation focuses on its member projects, special interest groups, and also all open source projects invited. Historically, there are also some representation of CDF member companies. And yeah, but still, this is quite a good agenda. On day zero, there will be workshops. Maybe there will be something else. Yeah, all of that is to be decided. And for contributor summit, we tend to discuss doing it after the event on October 1st. So if you won't collide with the main agenda, but you want to do it this time after the event, because in this case, we will be able to mean discuss recent development, presentation, ideas we got during the conference. And it seems to be a better format than we used to do before, because before we historically were doing it in parallel with workshops. And yeah, the plan is a bit different. Again, it's all to be announced. Okay, what else do we have confirmed? So we will have two community workshops on September 28th. One workshop will be related to contributing to Jenkins and onboarding. Another one will be likely related to something about Jenkins pipeline. The community track, other tracks, keynote is to be decided. But yeah, likely they will be keynote by the continuous Liberty Foundation, and there will be Jenkins representation there. So if you have any major announcements to make, we will use this opportunity. And also, yeah, expert hall, it will likely happen. And contributor summit, it will likely happen. So it's going to be decided. And for CDCon, again, June 25th, another conference. And again, everyone is welcome. The registration is already open. Okay. So for community track, there is some information from Alisa. But basically, what I discussed, we talk about open source projects, various tooling methodologies, again, stories from end users. If they get submitted to this track or to practice the engineer's track, as a program committee will be balancing them. Because yeah, these tracks are always fictional in the moment. We will also talk about use cases. This year, there will be significant focus on security and compliance, because many CDF project members actually prioritize security this year, including Jenkins. So likely there will be more representation for security topics in software delivery than usual. Okay. If you can see the speaking about Jenkins, what you can present actually anything related to Jenkins. So it might be about various integrations about your success stories. If your Jenkins contributor, you can talk about new features, show some live demos, you can also show your experience, for example, about developer pipeline libraries, how you deliver to this pipeline libraries, how you deliver your projects with Jenkins. And if you want to share your insights about how the project involves what you would like to see, all of that can be submitted. So yeah, the expectation, especially for the community track, if you talk about Jenkins, then yeah, then it should be about Jenkins. So pure marketing talks are not exactly welcome at the conference. Though for technical talks, again, you can do whatever you want. And yeah, it's not about Jenkins. So if you work on other projects like CoupSphere, Tecton, Jenkins, Spinnaker, etc., you are also welcome to submit your applications. And really, as a program committee, we'll be balancing the agenda so that there will be a presentation for white technology area. Victor, Rik, would you like to add something? As well as experienced DevOps world participants and the program committee members? Sure. For me, I doubt that you have been in the two huts, given a talk and also doing the review of the talks. So I just encourage people to get out of the comfort zone and talk about what they do and how they use. It's always interesting to see other people's way of working with Jenkins and what other things they've been building. Because the way they can teach us what are the troubleshoots or the problem they try to solve with Jenkins or what are the experience they got using it, it will help others to understand how they can use that as well. So I really encourage people to use that. From the review point of view, there's always a trick like you might be interesting to talk about something, but it's also interesting like you might provide different perspectives for the same talk. So I also encourage you to don't just submit one call for paper, you can submit two or three, talking about similar but with some minor differences, because that's the way you might have more chances to be accepted from the point of view of the talk. That's for me the true hint. Would you like to add something? I didn't have something. I'm not sure if you have you participated in the DevOps world before? No. Okay, so looking forward to meet you in September. Okay, yeah, so just to show you a few tips and again I messed up animation on this slide. So yeah, there are some events happening in Jenkins and there are various technologies, so for example, pipeline as code, configuration as code, there are new plugins and integrations happening here and there. There is more than part of the packaging being introduced, for example, Jenkins for Docker, for Kubernetes, there are various operator projects. Also, there is execution for cloud like AWS, Google Cloud, Asia, and again, if you present a DevOps world, if you want to share something, the main objective is to actually communicate information to users and to provide something they could adopt and could follow up on. So if you talk about Jenkins, how it could be used in modern way, how this use of existing recent technologies is definitely something interesting for a big audience. You can also take various specific topics, but again, narrow topics is harder to get audience for that. But at the same time, you can get less participants, but more interested in particular topic. So yeah, there are many areas of welcome. And if you're interested, there is Jenkins roadmap published here. This roadmap actually needs some updates. There are discussions in the developer mailing list, but you can see that there are multiple areas here, including current preview features, ongoing projects, and recently released events. So it could be one of sources of ideas for you if you want to explore something and present a DevOps world. So it's just a hint. Again, you're not limited to what's listed here, not in any means. One particular area I would like to highlight is interoperability with other projects because it includes two integrations, it also includes integration with other projects. For example, a few days ago, we had an announcement for Tecton client plugin for Jenkins 1.0 release. You can also see examples here, for example, how to reuse Tecton and Jenkins X from Jenkins. So such interoperability topics become more and more popular in these years. So if you want to talk about how you integrate Jenkins with other tools in the software delivery pipeline, then it could be a good opportunity. And another good opportunity is, of course, everything security related, because again, there are two parts.  So how you secure your delivery pipelines, how you verify your products, etc. And all these talks could be very interesting to the audience. So you can take a look at it. Any comments before we move on? We'll click through this information as well. Okay, call for papers. Some key dates. So the call for papers closes in a bit more than two weeks on May 20. So we highly encourage everyone to submit the applications by this date. And yeah, a few tips. So firstly, when you make an application, just be concise, stay with key points because when reviewers review the applications, last year we got almost 500 proposals to the community track if I recall correctly. So basically, it's competitive application and the program committee and reviewers have limited time to process them. So they start from basically looking at your elevator pitch and the abstract, they do initial filtering, then they start deep diving. But if you want to be selected, it's important to represent the idea of the talk and to show what would be the takeaways for the main audience in your abstract. And it's important to think. So if you create a better abstract, it's quite probable that nobody will go, for example, to the GitHub link you attached to deeply investigate your project and try it out and say that it's cool. We would be happy to do that, but we have a very limited time to process the applications and also you focus on users and on your target audience. So whatever is your target audience, it may be anything is user, it may be just a particular set of users and contributors. But when you work on proposal, just think about what is your target audience and create basically talk for them. So you do not have to, for example, if you talk about Canadian delivery with Kubernetes, you can just have a Kubernetes and focus on what are the details you don't want, you don't need to provide introduction about what is Kubernetes. Yeah, there are other talks, there might be references for that unless you want to do exactly the introductory talk, which can be also an option. So just think about that, complexity is fine. And we can, as a program committee, we are responsible to somehow balance these talks. It's always an interesting challenge, but we will do our best to do that. So there are also news about speaker training. So this year, called this will be offering training sessions for speakers. This is the first year when it happens, the details are to be announced. But yeah, the fact that it will happen. So if you want to participate in such trainings as a speaker, you will be eligible to. And yeah, one thing, yeah, I mentioned the program committee multiple times. So currently the program committee is still being finalized. We have several contributors who have already agreed to be a part. So Victor and me, also we have Alexio, Victor Farsiq, Alyssa, Carlos Sanchez, likely there will be more contributors who join before the end of the call for papers. So this is the committee of contributors who will be reviewing the proposals for the community tracks. For other tracks, there will be rather other reviewer teams. But the community tracks, we specifically focus on the tracks, the applications being reviewed by the community. And yeah, thanks for inviting contributors to participate. Any questions so far? There is a question from Vikas. So he is asking that to work on Jenkins add-ons development, do we need our own setup or some cloud setup can be given from two? I suggest they discuss and quit after the presentation because it's not strictly related to the subject of the event. But I'm happy to answer this question and share the links. But yeah, thanks for the question. So we will definitely answer that. Okay, so if you have any questions, so we had one session last week, we have a session today. You can see that this slide hasn't been updated, sorry about that. And as I mentioned in the beginning, there is a Slack channel on the CDF workspace, which you can use to join and ask any questions. So you just navigate to this page. It's on Jenkins Community website. And here you can follow the link how to join the CDF Slack, how to automatically request the invite and join this channel. And once you join, you can ask any questions in the chat. We have another question from Mike. How to get speaker training? So there will be communications after you get a notification of acceptance. So right now, I don't know what will be the details. So I know that CloudBees is arranging that. But the details will be communicated in June or July. So if you want to practice presenting, what I can offer, we have Jenkins Online Meetup. And there, for example, if you want to present this Meetup, you can go to this page and there is speaking section. So you can follow this guide if you want to apply to Jenkins Online Meetup and present again anything about Jenkins. And for speakers, what we also offer, we provide the reviews of the application of abstract, of slide decks when they want. We also do rehearsals before the Meetup. I mean, if the speakers are interested too. So if you want to practice it a bit, you can join us for Jenkins Online Meetup and we will be happy to help. So it's a good opportunity. Be sure that it's something you can use as a practice. So is that possible to talk the same topic between the online Meetup and the DevOps world? That's a good question. So I cannot say yes or no because it really depends on the agenda. At the same time, if there is already a public recording of the talk in the Jenkins Coming Meetup, then let's say it will be less interesting than having a new talk because having a new talk is giving an opportunity to somebody else to present their story and to make this story visible. So we commonly... So sometimes there are talks being repeated, but again, since everything is online these days, there is no particular point in repeating the same talk again in the same form. So you can submit the same talk. It might be accepted, but yes, Program Committee, I think that we will be focusing on giving capacity to more speakers and presenters. I guess online Meetup is just a good place to practice. Yeah, that's right. So it's not the best place to practice the same talk. That's for sure. But for example, if you want to practice the talk, every one of us works for a company and for example, you could do an internal Meetup and present the same talk. It could be a good opportunity to get some feedback. Also, there are other Meetup groups, etc. Yeah, you can apply there. Well, actually, a good practice is to let organizers of a conference know when you submit to multiple conferences so that they again can balance the agenda. But in particular cases, it's possible to do presentations especially in countries where offline Meetups are allowed at the moment. You can also consider doing offline Meetups. In the Jenkins community, we do encourage offline Meetups at the moment. But yeah, other communities are doing them. Okay. Any more questions about that? Okay, some takeaways before if you have any questions, just drop them in the chat or in the Q&A. We will still answer them. So key takeaways. Firstly, the DevOps world, we have a really strong community agenda. This agenda isn't really related to Jenkins, but Jenkins is still heavily represented there. And we invite talks about Jenkins integrations with other tools, various community use cases, developer risk cases, and basically it can be a practitioner discussion or it can be discussion about, let's say, digital transformation in your company. So yeah, various of topics is quite wide. DevOps world, I'm not sure how many tracks there will be finding this here, maybe something like eight or so. So this is a good opportunity. Okay. Then, yeah, if you want to apply, you don't have to be a Jenkins expert. There is a lot of opportunities for practitioner talks, for newcomer talks, et cetera. And you can do that. Also, we will try to give some opportunity for presenting at the Jenkins contributor summit. And even if your talk doesn't get accepted, for example, you can do this talk at the Jenkins online meetup. So again, if you are interested in presenting in the Jenkins community, there are many ways to present, not just the DevOps world. And we can work on that. So we encourage you to submit the applications. The deadline is May 20th. So there is a bit more than one week left. I'm not sure whether the deadline will be moved this year. I recommend to not expect that and to submit earlier. Thanks for your time. And again, we welcome all the applications and we would be happy to review them. If you have any questions, we have this CDF Slack channel. The entire program committee is there. And we also have limited availability, but we will do our best to answer any questions you have in this Slack room. So any other questions? I have a few references, actually. So in the last slide, you can see DevOps world, advocacy analysis. It's actually another group which helps to organize events. It says if you want to present outside of DevOps world, then there is Slack channel for any kinds of pony. And yeah, there are also recordings of previous sessions. You can find them on YouTube. And for 2020, there is this site. So yeah, if you are looking for some inspiration, for experience about how to present and what to present, go to this event. 2020 was also a virtual event. So the experience of the format is quite close to what we will be doing for 2021. And you can see that there is a lot of Jenkins topics there. Again, of course, complexity, of course, angle. So take a look and you can find something interesting. And I believe that weeks are presented last autumn, right? Yeah, the search here is not exactly the best thing. But yeah, you can find Victor's talk. You can also find my talk, but yeah, please don't watch that. But Victor's talk was really good. Okay. So do we have any other questions? One question is about a Meetup host. And we ask if you want to host Meetup in terms of what roadmap you can pull? Okay. So yeah, just to provide you some more tips, how we organize that. So in the Jenkins project, there is a sub-project related to Meetups called CACD and Jenkins-Siri Meetups. So we originally started a series of Jenkins-Siri Meetups around the world. We had around 80 active Meetups at once at some point. Then there are also CACD Meetups, which are basically Meetups under the umbrella of the Continuous Delivery Foundation. So currently Jenkins Meetups are welcome to rename to CACD Meetups. And other CACD Meetups are welcome to join. And yeah, we together with the Continuous Delivery Foundation have a platform which is based on Meetup.com. So many of you registered using Meetup.com link. And yeah, you can also get the list of Meetups by just following to our Pro account. So it's Meetup.com, Pro, CACD, CDF. And there you can see currently active Meetups, or at least currently registered Meetups, because here with coronavirus, the most of these Meetups are not actually active at the moment. So here, for example, let's go to Toronto. I'm not sure whether we have registered Meetup at the moment. And we have a Meetup, which is called Toronto Jenkins-Siri Meetup. So I'm just following the question. It's an example. I don't know exactly what's the state. So last Meetup, I mean, real Meetup was organized before the coronavirus. There is a good assumption that this Meetup is rather unhauled at the moment. So there are multiple ways. Firstly, you can see the list of organizers here. And the list of organizers, let's see who is here. So Continuous Delivery Foundation, then Scholar and Maxwell, the managers of the Jenkins Meetups program when it was managed by CloudBees. And there are also local organizers, so Kevin and Greg. I don't know them personally, but this could be your points of contact. So first of the things, if you want to organize a Meetup, again, it can be Toronto online Meetup, or whatever. We don't encourage face-to-face Meetups at the moment. But anyway, you can reach the organizers and say that, hey, I would like to speak about Jenkins. I would like to organize Meetup and let's do something. Then if they're available, if they're interested, you can just collaborate on organizing. If they're not available, if they have already moved on to something else, then we can transition this Meetup to you if you want to become a new organizer. Because again, these Meetups are sponsored by the Continuous Delivery Foundation. And yeah, I can't provide the exact numbers, but let's say that this Meetup.com program is quite expensive. And we are interested to actually get the most of that in terms of active communities and cities. Okay, does it answer the question? Another question from Mike. Need to attach the detailed PPT or just the outline, will it be okay to submit the topic? Okay, so definitely you don't have to attach the slides. I'm not sure what is the exact application form for now. I'm guilty. I still haven't submitted my application. Yeah, I tried it once just to test, but you submit the abstract and some details. So let's try to see it together. So we are using Submitable as a platform. So and key, you can see that there are some descriptions, etc. Basically, what we discussed, you can also create your account. Let's see what I can do that quickly. I'll change it anyway. Please don't submit talks on my behalf if you're watching the recording. So, yeah, so, for example, I have no idea. So here we get the call for papers to a platform. And then what we do is, yeah, here's the form we need to submit. Yeah, please be aware of code of conduct, etc. But code of conduct there is, please be nice. Yeah. And here you submit session name, you provide the abstract. So basically, this is a key field and it looks like user experience is going to be great for this field. But yeah, probably it supports more markdown. I'm not sure. And yeah, you can submit here, you can see the limit 6600 characters. So it's not an extended abstract. It's just a few paragraphs of the description. Then you define a technical level, target audience. Again, this target audience on the white level. For you, you can define a monorail audience if you want. And yeah, discussion about whether you presented this topic. Yes, no session type. So you can see that currently the sessions are going to be quite short. Again, talk about the big agenda and to respond to our experience from the previous events when the big talks are not really well followed because it's hard to stay focused during the big online talks. So we focus on short ones. And yeah, basically this is the options we have and also tracks, which apparently listed. So when you apply again, you find to which track you submit. But yeah, this track isn't something you sign with your blood because the program committee can then make adjustments if needed. And yeah, also topic category, industry focus. So since the event is organized by Cloudbees, you also invited to list projects, your products you're using from Cloudbees. But if you're using just chink pieces, as you can see, non applicable. And then you can talk about use cases specifically. Then speaker info. Yes, again, speaker training. So that was a question. If you're interested, you say yes. And then somebody will contact you if you want to get schwach, of course, say yes there. And yeah, she can call us if you need that. Yeah, various information. Yeah, the form is quite long. But yeah, I think that it's quite straightforward. You just fill in the fields and then submit. And once you submit, then the program committee will receive the application. It will be a partially blind review. So what it means, we don't know the name of the submitter. But if you say that I'm a leader, let's say, of Qoops Fair project in your application, then yeah, it won't be that anonymous. So yeah, it's up to you. But yeah, generally, we try to do balance reviews. 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Hey guys, it's Nate, aka The Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel and also welcome to the FIFA 22 Team of the Year Market Crash. Boys, it has arrived. We are inside of a market crash because of EA's content that they released yesterday. It caused a lot of panic selling on the market all across the whole game, but that icon player pick SBC and the Akari flashback are just two of the things that have people selling cards on this game right now because people need coins to go and complete this massive 750,000 coin SBC and the fact that it's repeatable has got a lot of this market dropping right now as well. A lot of us we're looking forward to this time because I know some of us also are looking for a low point which I believe right now we have hit the pre-team of the year lows for a lot of cards. So we're going to be talking about when might be some of the lowest points for some of these cards even though right now and in general over this next week it's going to be a pretty favorable time for buying cards for your team or investing in cards that we think could potentially go up after team of the year starts this Friday. So we're going to be talking about all those things today in this video. So if you're enjoying the videos on the channel, make sure to hit a thumbs up and of course subscribe if you are new. But let's look at some of these price drops right because with these big SBCs that have come out this is what has crashed the market before Black Friday and now before team of the year. It's been EA's content that they have released that has dropped prices on the market the most right right before Black Friday we had some big icon SBCs the hero upgrades and stuff like that and that started to drop off and it's even right before Black Friday big panic selling then the same thing is happening right now before team of the year. You've had prices that have been dropping over the past couple days especially on this gold and BAPE take a look at this right. Gold and BAPE about 10 days ago was 1.06 million coins. People have been selling this guy off since the middle of December with winter wild cards being an insane promo as well. People were starting to get ready for team of the year. We always see price drops in December but now we have what this past week has been as you see in BAPE has gone from 1.06 down to about 900k he was even 900k yesterday before the SBC dropped and then he dropped even more down to the 8 he was actually 860 for a hot second so why this market crash right again the SBC for the player pick icon upgrade pack right this base or mid icon player pick a lot of people sold cards today if you look at prices on the market a lot of them just absolutely got killed today because people needed to sell cards to go and fund their pack addiction that is the number one reason why these cards are dropping on the market right now they also re-released 83 plus attacker midfielder and defender upgrades and in a carty flashback SBC that has 89 percent upvotes we knew that this SBC was going to be very very popular for people on FIFA because of the PSG links right the PSG links especially the perfect link to Messi perfect link to Di Maria right of course links to Neymar links to Mbappe all of that stuff is impacting and how popular this SBC is and how it's impacting the market so all of those things combined also with people knowing that team of the year usually drops prices on the market anyway is why you're seeing so much sell off right now on this market now let's take a look at some prices that are just down bad Christiana Ronaldo's gold card 265 thousand coins he was how much 300k before the drop off yesterday went all the way down to actually 255 is where he was for a hot second but Ronaldo is low and we were doing this comparison yesterday um on stream on the twitch stream this guy Christiana Ronaldo last year at this exact same time on the PlayStation market in FIFA 21 was 1.1 million coins again everything is so much cheaper in this year's market it's crazy but let's continue to look down the list with of course the Icardi SBC dropping league one strikers or down bad this Jonathan David was 180 thousand coins dropped all the way off to 130k he's now bounced back a slight bit Ben Yetter with the Icardi coming out and with Ben Yetter potentially getting an inform pretty soon because of his performance yesterday he's gone from 707 thousand coins down to 533 where he is right now and this same market I guess scenario you could say can be found if you look across the whole entire game Anthony Martial was basically 660 thousand coins yesterday he is now 538k we could go on for hours looking at prices icons got destroyed yesterday as well this cantona was about 1.1 million coins last week he's now under 900 thousand coins whole it is down I mean there's literally almost everywhere you look on this game cards are just down bad cards are just down bad as team of the years on the horizon people fear you know more SBC's more cards and of course for the items that will be in packs a lot more packs apply and just brand new hype and SBC's for a team of the year that's what's dropping this market as well at this time screener was 250k he's now 198 thousand coins yeah I mean literally everywhere that you look I mean this in babu's been on a crazy drop off since the whole class SBC and that stuff 145k after the zikari objective drop and now he is 65 thousand coins so crazy market movements crazy prices dropping almost everywhere on the market yesterday but with the SBC being repeatable that's what caused the drastic drop in my opinion I know that it's an expensive icon player pick SBC but that's what's people really love icon player picks right and people have a lot of fun with them it's the first one that we've had this year and it's repeatable that it was just crazy that SBC was repeatable yesterday I think it surprised me a little bit but that's what caused a lot of the market shock and market panic right this jewel Felix was 700 thousand coins literally two weeks ago what is he right now 530k yeah 530 thousand coins for this Felix when he was you know 700k just a couple weeks ago right I mean everywhere you look on this market right now prices are down and for a lot of people they were looking forward to this right this Gabby Jesus was 900 thousand coins two weeks ago what is he right now 660 on the market one of the best primarily strikers the fire version the ice version is very popular as well you've got icons like Terry Henry who was 2.1 million coins he was 185 187 earlier today this got into was 1.2 I sold him literally after Pato came out at 1.23 he was 1 million almost flat yesterday on the market Lucas Mora was like 600k he was 450 earlier seriously we could go on for days about the price drops on the market but that's what it was yesterday was just the big content that EA released and that's how we've seen most of the market crashes take place this year it's not just put on by people selling before team of year what it really has become is when EA releases insane content without cheap the market is this year I don't feel like people feel the need to panic sell like two weeks ahead of a big time promo coming out they'll just maybe sell their cards the week before or you know they'll sell their cards when there's some insane SBCs or a big time player SBC that they want to go out and do to replace something that's in their team so this SBC did just that on the game yesterday now in general on this market since a lot of prices have dropped a lot you might be asking is this going to be the low point will cards go lower on this market and it's really going to be a case by case basis for a lot of cards and a lot of this is you know it depends it really does depend because a couple things we have to think about right now a couple things are number one a lot of people have sold cards slowly over the past couple weeks because you know a lot of people especially if you're watching this video you know that like team of the year is a time where there's a lot of activity on the FIFA market and everybody expects prices to go lower so they start selling a couple weeks ahead of time right we looked at Mbappe's graph some of these price drop-offs that you've seen right he went down low before Black Friday exploded after Black Friday back to 1.3 and has now been slowly dropping off with the Winter Wild Cards promo being really good putting out a lot of SBC a lot of packs and lightning rounds and stuff like that but you've seen people sell this card off with a little bit of supply in there too he's gone from one point almost four mil down to 800k right that's a really significant drop off for literally the best player in the game for the price right the glitch right 800k there's a lot of people right now that have sold in Mbappe that are looking forward to buying him after team of the year drops in the next week so right now what you have is a lot of people have sold whether it was to fund an icon SBC or because they know the market drops around team of the year you have a ton of people that have sold cards on this market at the moment what that also is and we saw this very picture perfectly put into perspective earlier this year during Black Friday is you have a lot of people that are now waiting to buy they're waiting for the right moment to go out and buy cards for their team now for that right moment here's what I had to say about that it's going to be very very very very very hard to find the absolute lowest point on the market let's say you want to buy van dyke headliners he was down at 650,000 coins I think he might have rebounded back up slightly to about 700k right so a slight rebound it's going to be very hard to pinpoint the exact low point for a lot of these cards especially if it's a card that is out of packs like a base icon like this base Rio he was down at 600,000 coins flat he's about what 635k now so still pretty low you know Tago Jalo was down at 320 he's back to 350 so you've seen some cards that have rebounded up a little bit and I'm just here to tell you I don't think that you've missed I don't think you have to feel like you've missed the absolute lowest point right what you're expecting to see is these cards get devalued during this time frame as people sell off cards as we head into team of the year and then what happens is you see people going out and buying cards back after team of the year because they get coins from opening packs and that's when the floodgates kind of open up again and that's when people go from waiting to buy then they get coins then they go out and buy cards and you see prices rebound wow this Cristiano Ronaldo is still very very low at 1.2 million coins that's pretty crazy so again right now we have a lot of demand that is just sitting and waiting I think some people maybe bought some cards yesterday right with some of these prices that we saw on the market yesterday some of the drop offs that we had like this Tago Jalo was an example that I just used he's been very he's been very high lately 400 000 coins is the highest price that he has been since he was like in packs right because of all the league one sbcs that we have had and the links that this guy has yesterday he went from 360 k down to 320 and then rebounded back to 360 I think some people saw these prices yesterday and said that's cheap enough for me I'm gonna buy it for my team now what I have to say is there's going to be over the next 48 to you know maybe even 72 hours the next few days on this game as we go throughout this week in FIFA these prices are going to maintain pretty low levels across the market in general for whether it's you know maybe some headliners maybe some old team of the week cards maybe it's winter wild cards that you want to get maybe winter wild cards latin as a card that you want to buy for your team around the team of your time frame a lot of these cards are going to maintain their low levels right like you're not going to see Lucas Mora this week unless something crazy happens and EA puts out some insane content or something unprecedented happens Lucas Mora is not going to be 600k again by the time we get to Thursday night before Friday right Lucas Mora is probably going to stay right around this 500,000 coin range so all you have to kind of do as you go throughout this week is well the number one thing you can do as you can see Lucas Mora from 520 down to 450 now he's back up to 480 so a slight bounce back what you really need to do right now on this game is make a plan whether you're playing however many coins you have what you want to do with team of the year if you want to build a team right if you're waiting for this time period to say man i'm really looking forward to buying Dean Natali for my team Dean Natali was 360k he's now 300,000 coins or hey i really wanted to buy prime Zidane for my team he has dropped off a lot in price he was 3.3 just kind of gotten a little bit rare now as prime icons do or you know kind of get your plan together whether you want to buy a card for your team if you want to upgrade your prime striker from you know maybe it's gold team over and you want to upgrade it to like this marshal or ice Jesus versus ice Jesus you know that's the kind of thing that i would be doing so in these next couple of days we're going to see prices stay pretty low in my opinion especially as we head out of the weekend league and a lot of people are freshly selling more people are going to continue to do that basemid icon player pick that's going to continue to drain coins from the market and what other content whatever elder content EA has planned for this week it's not like the market's going to shoot right back up and you have to buy it right now you're going to have a little bit of time right pick the cards that you want to buy whether it's for an investment whether it is for your team just start to plan that's the number one tip that i can give you right now is in the next couple of days figure out what you think you might want to do whether it's building a team again or making investments pick out those players and start watching their price right and when you see dips like we saw today there's probably going to be one or two more maybe not as significant but just kind of hours or times on the market where you will see a lot of these cards just kind of get a little bit low maybe because there's leaked content that is coming that is really cool we still have many sbcs that could potentially be coming later on this week and a lot of people right now are going to be doing that icon player pick they're going to be doing 81 plus packs on repeat they're going to be continually doing the 83 plus packs that EA seems to be putting out like every two days and you know that's taking some coins off the market too because people really want to do these they they want a chance to pack in a team of the year so they're going to do these 83 plus packs and that takes coins off the market as well so um that's that would be my biggest advice to you is start planning figure out what cards that you want to buy and just watch for them to get kind of at a price kind of in your mind like say oh man i saw that lucas mora went to 450 000 coins and he was 600k this is a card i really really want for my team start keeping an eye on his price right see if he goes kind of low in the evening time or maybe right before the 6 p.m content drop in the next couple of days if you see this lucas mora get back to that 450 000 coin price that he was before the prices that we saw yesterday in the peak in the height of this panic selling right here kind of use those as like all right if he gets close to that again or if he gets there or lower that's a pretty good price for a lot of cards that you saw a really big drop off on like this mora card that would be the type of thing to look for right is can i get prices that are near to that low point in the next couple of days and then again not worrying about you know wait till lucas mora's 450 again then try to get a snipe at 440 so that you get the absolute lowest price you're gonna worry yourself crazy if you're thinking about that constantly just be thinking about for a lot of these cards and when i'm talking about a lot of cards right now i'm speaking about out-of-pack stuff and your most meta golds yes imbappe might not be in team of the year maybe he's 12th man we don't know right the voting ends later today on monday into tuesday so we don't know what the team of the year is going to be whether he's going to be in the main 11 12th man we don't know what cards are going to be in packs so there's always that little bit of question as well out there around team of the year which is another reason why people panic sell but there's also so much demand for an imbappe card like this or for a marshal or for like the lucas mora that we were just talking about maybe a timo verner card there's a lot of hype for or an informed kante maybe even still a jonathan david or a berela who is down like 30 000 coins and is still a live card so that's the stuff that i would start to do starts a plan and i think that would kind of i would focus on the out-of-pack special cards and i would focus on out-of-packs icons that's where the market is going to start to rise first and that's where people are going to invest their coins first are these types of cards out-of-packs very popular and stuff that is not going to get supplied unless ea pulls something crazy out of their hat like they did during winter wild cards and drop those packs that are in the store so that's kind of what i'd be doing make a plan pick some cards and just wait for their prices to kind of dip back down again in the next day or two and you know that's going to be a good general rule of thumb and a general way to go about this market and to buy a card that is really low after it's dropped off a lot of coins before we do head into that team of your time frame so that's the best advice that i can give you because seriously you're going to go crazy if you try to tell yourself hey i'm going to find the absolute lowest price to this card and i'm going to hit it and this card's going to fly and i'm going to make a ton of profit right you're going to go crazy searching for that price for forever so that's my best advice we are going to be taking a look at some specific investments cards that always do well after a team of the year in a video very very soon maybe even later today so keep an eye out for that video which will be coming on the channel soon because i know some of you guys just want to make coins right and i'm going to be taking an approach with my coins where i'm going to be putting a lot into upgrade packs but i'm also going to be putting a lot into investments and trading as team of the year is a time where the market moves like crazy so i'm going to make some investments get involved with some stuff that we might even see rise as soon as this weekend so we're going to be talking about that soon as well now a couple other things that are going on in this market we we can't talk about this icon sbc without talking about sbc fodder right 775 000 coins per sbc people are rocking through this player pick right now so of course since this sbc is repeatable even though it is expensive right it is a bit pricey 750 k think about how many icons are below that that threshold a lot right a lot of the player picks that i've seen have been not good but the fact that you get a choice of three i've seen some really insane icon player picks as well so everybody's very hyped about him and even after week and league rewards come out early this morning on monday i think there's going to be people that go out on the market and are continually buying some fodder fodder will get supplied a little bit but people aren't really opening packs right now right there's not much supply which is why these prices keep going higher 88s are over 30 000 coins man yesterday when i saw this sbc get released as repeatable i was like oh my goodness ea sports they literally wanted to drop the market today that was their plan they wanted to drop the market and they achieved their goal so if you have sbc fodder right now what you've seen is a lot of people sold their 88s at like 29 30 000 coins there's still demand for this sbc since it's repeatable i would slowly get those cards list them up for lazies right when i list for lazies what i mean is like howling right now or Sergio Ramos is going for 30 250 coins i would list this up for like 33 34 000 coins a price that would maybe be a couple thousand coins over his normal going rate but somebody who is just kind of lazy buying cards for the sbc to get it done to have fun and open that player pick you know they might not look for the absolute lowest price on ramos so if you're a couple thousand coins over that's what i'd be doing right now right i mean you got harry kane 50 000 coins for these 90 rated players and i know a lot of you guys have bought for like low 30s mid 30s even you're making bank on this fodder um and that also impacts the market right everybody's made bank on sbc fodder so they've got more coins now heading into team of the year to either buy cards for their teams whether it's special cards from previous promos or icons or stuff like that people have more coins now to get involved with some of this stuff too which is also going to help the market rise post team of the year so wow salah bounced back very nicely he was 990k and he's up 100 000 coins so i know some of you guys are seeing this price and you're like yo Nate i think i missed the low point i've got some fomo right you know i think a lot of people had some fomo today because they saw the prices going low and a lot of people are profiting off of fodder so that's why you're seeing some of these really rare cards rebound you know salah might not get back to 990k it is absolute lowest as he was yesterday but salah maybe gets in team of the year we we still could have a couple sbc later on this week that are pretty hyped maybe salah goes back to like 1.01 or 1.02 and you're like okay that's really cheap i want to get involved so i don't think that the market drop is necessarily done yet it's going to be on a specific card by card basis but seriously watch the market today and tomorrow these first couple days of this week i think that's going to be a great time where you can go out and pick up some cards on the market for really really cheap but again plan right planning i can't stress that enough because that's going to help you manage your coins and manage your fee for club so much better if you know what your plan is right whether you want to buy a baby icon because they're out of packs and they usually rise really well post team of the year or if you're just trying to snag a card for the team that you want to use for the next couple of months because you are a huge uh you know maybe you're a huge van persi guy you really love van persi man he's 350k he's dropped off a ton and the base version of van persi is really hyped right it's almost better than the prime except for it's got more pace but less shooting you know or it's somebody like this out of packs joel felix who is very very good in this game who was down to 520k earlier yesterday i think right now he's 530 right so knowing this guy was 700k technically still has one more upgrade in him but it's not until april you know that's the kind of stuff that we're going to be talking through in that video very soon about some of the best investments and we're going to take a look at the market this year what did well after black friday and what's done well after team of the year in the past years to kind of pull all that together and come up with a video and specifically point out some types of cards that could rise very well as investments post team of the year so crazy market right now i know it's wild i know it's like nate this thing is going crazy what do i do don't panic right don't panic sit tight just start to again plan pick some cards put them on your transfer targets watch their prices on foot bin i don't know what other content we're going to have today on monday the mid icon pack expires today i know some people are saying maybe they're going to you know release the mid icon pack again since they've released a player pick though i really don't see a sports dropping another mid icon upgrade i guess potentially they could just because it's really a time where they're trying to drain some coins off the game so maybe they refresh this sbc for another time today that could take some more coins off the game and cause another little bit of a market drop so we'll just have to see what ea does to the rest of this week to see if this market goes crazy again also a quick update on our showdowns our showdowns with the game being played yesterday between between inter and atalanta they drew nil nil so both muriel and darman are going to get a plus one so it's the best of both worlds if you did either or both those sbcs my darman is going to become an 88 louis muriel is going to get a plus one as well in his item so i don't know how long it's going to take for them to upgrade those but those prices or those cards are going to get upgraded so that is very very nice of course if you guys have questions drop them down below in the comments i'm sure there's going to be a lot because it's a crazy time on the market right now i totally understand that but of course if you did enjoy this video smash a thumbs up on it and subscribe if you are new it's a crazy market it's a team of your market crash there's a lot of info and a lot of market analysis to come don't worry i'll be here for it all right boys it's been Nathan put account and i'll catch you guys later peace out


So the focus was really different and That's not meant to trick people into saying they like tall buildings It's meant to bring the experience down to the street level and out of out of the vehicle And you're you know, you're standing there on the sidewalk and what do you like and not like because the stated goal was walkable so I I actually don't have a stated goal in the town plan that says make taff corners look nice From my car at the top of the hill at old creamery road But what do we all do when we come down the hill? We look at taff corners and we go wow, you know, especially now with the public safety facility clearing and parking ride clearing you can see a lot of taff corners And and and I would be willing to say it's probably not very aesthetically pleasing from that perspective The opportunity that exists is is to infill in there and provide enough development potential which is part of that height equation That it would be worth it for somebody to build that streetscape that people said they liked Um and to build that walkable downtown that people in Williston have been saying they wanted since 1990 if somebody is just Appalled at the idea of a five-story or an 87 foot high building in Williston I don't I don't think that offers any comfort Um, I I I just have to agree with you I you know if if if you don't like the idea that some part of taff corners might look Oh, you know a lot like a city at some point I don't think I can offer a lot of comfort that That just comes with the territory of making a place a walkable downtown is there's got to be some activity there There's got to be enough people to kind of make the place go And there's got to be buildings that are worth building if you're going to ask people to create meaningful places five stories was seen by our public process consultant and planning commission as A meaningful increment beyond what's allowed today without going way way beyond And allowing some flexibility for a diversity of building forms to be created It it you know It is not a plan for every single building in taff corners to be five stories with an 87 foot high pitched roof on top of it You know I know it's not a guarantee But I keep looking at site conditions and keep not finding places where where I could get to that height Somebody might somebody probably will but it's not everywhere and Yeah, it is adjustable going forward That said This whole code Works the same just does not produce as much housing or as much development With a four-story maximum or a or a three-story maximum That's that's up to you as the decision makers Considering everything you've heard and everything you've seen and everything the planning commission's worked on Whether that whether that makes sense There's some threshold where you go small enough and all that nice architectural stuff and those expensive street tree plantings that I want and and all that other stuff that's in here Most people may look at it say that's just not worth building here. They're you know, I can't make money in in two stories I'm not sure whether that threshold is But there is an acknowledgement in the building height section of that overarching issues part of the vision plan that says You know, there's a connection between building height development potential and the ask Of we want these buildings to look nice or be nicer have more and bigger windows and doors Etc etc Thank you So I Just touched a little bit on what Gordon does, but I think it would be helpful Obviously we as the select board have a sense of this but but um, and keep in mention as well about the amendment process if if we you know do pass the form-based code and and You know, it's at 87 feet and we're like wow that was Needing to be changed After the fact what would that process look like? So that that process could either be initiated by the planning commission, which is sort of a traditional way to go or yourselves Um, and then it's a bylaw amendment process. So you you warn a hearing You hold that hearing The draft that you know, you say you hold a hearing you say we're going to we're going to drop the the building height to 67 feet That you know at the moment you hold that hearing that becomes effective for 150 days while you consider it if you adopt it It's it's adopted. It becomes the law of land Bylaw amendments zoning bylaw amendments in williston happen typically about once a year That's kind of been our our track record pandemic pushed us off from some of that but You may recall I was here a year ago talking about impact feverly for affordable housing projects and parking and wetlands and Something else. I can't remember what we had a we had a whole pile of amendments We were trying trying to get done that we'd been backlogged on but It's it's a common occurrence. I got notifications today that both South burlington and richmond are amending their zoning bylaws next month I get those all the time from our neighboring communities So My family and I moved to willis in 1966. There are probably about 1200 people in the residence and town at that time Taft corners had a red and yellow blinking light just a single single unit hanging from the intersection at that time So here we are 56 years later Was about 10,000 people in town and we've seen Multiple changes in the zoning regulations over the course of that period of time Now we're looking at a long-term plan that will have built into it a Timely way to make changes in it as well and some of the things that The planning commission is looking at were outlined in the september 29th memo to us And I wonder if you just want to talk briefly about the Four things that are in Well five things that are in that memo that came to us because it does talk about Boundary changes and affordable housing and heights and things like that Sure, so You received this memo from the planning commission commenting on modifications that were made to the code as as proposed by them The first the first point the planning commission May be on acknowledging the hard look the select board had given the form-based code And the complexity of the issues it's addressed the planning commission stated that They understand that the form-based code is a significant departure from the way development has been regulated in the past And expect that they will be involved in revising it Via an expedited process has been as has been discussed. So Being responsive to something that is this new and different is important to the commission And you may recall back a few meetings ago. We talked a lot about that in terms of being responsive to Regulating plan map change requests when streets need to be rearranged as well as in response to needs for affordable housing Etc. And I'll get back to that because it's another point on the memo The planning commission agreed with adding the 87 foot height limit having that maximum Preventing excessively tall buildings while still allowing for flexibility and you know reminder that the attempt at incentivizing pitched roofs Was to get some sort of uniquely Williston look Because one of the things planning commission observed was a number of communities operating under form-based code had buildings that looked very similar But none of them had a lot of pitched roofs That was an idea to get an architectural feature that that you know might actually say to somebody if they were dropped down here Oh, I must be in Williston The planning commission stated about boundary changes We do not think developer requests should override the effort of Williston the planning commission staff consultants and residents Have invested in the form-based code The boundary adjustments were moved about 93 acres from the form-based code area And allows You know those current development patterns under existing zoning to persist in those areas Planning commission felt that that weakened the form-based code In addressing affordable housing and jaybon cater mentioned this to you before tonight The the planning commission intentionally did not address affordable housing as part of the form-based code project Because it's complex It'll require dedicated time and attention and the pc wanted to offer the assurance to the select board and the community That they're committed to making headway on housing with inclusionary zoning work that has already begun And just update the select board We have an agreement through the planning office for assistance from the vermont housing finance association to Provide us with a housing needs assessment Which under vermont law is required for a community to have completed and in place prior to considering A zoning bylaw that requires affordable housing as a component of new residential development That should put us on track to bring a bylaw amendment regarding inclusionary zoning back to the select board in the spring Sometimes shortly after town meeting That's that's the first goal of the planning commission Um, you know to pick something up that will that will come on the back and on the heels of the form-based code Regulating plan an official map You know the the planning commission hopes to continue to revise the regulating plan and the official map Especially as additional wetlands are delineated or desired green spaces are secured Uh through the form-based code process and other development process Um, and the planning commission again expects to revise the details on that map In an ongoing basis knowing that there will need to be flexibility and responsiveness in the revision process Especially as private landowners determine where their constraints are and and what their development Plans are so A lot of commitment from the planning commission to further amendments responsiveness affordable housing And um, some some statements about why they set the boundaries the way they did versus the way, uh, you folks asked to modify them Thank you Any further questions from that or comments from the board? So we have some options tonight We can Wait for a motion at another meeting and we could Have a motion that's suggested to adopt the Uh, the plans tonight or we have an option to suggest other pages Silence It is it is late. Um, I guess one question I have is given the Planning commission's memo dated uh, september 29th I just want to make sure I understand if we were to vote what it is we're voting on Um, for instance, uh, it talked about the boundary changes So would the plan we're voting on? um If we were to vote tonight That includes that does not include the 93 acres in other words those 93 acres are outside of the form base code That's correct. So um Moving those boundaries, uh, you you leave more land in the mixed use commercial zone down by marshal av Um Prior to this change all of the taft corner zoning district was going to be in the form based code Overlay now some will be out. So the map changes. We also in your bylaw amendments package Reworked various elements of the bylaws to reflect that there's a taft corner zoning district again Um in in the code. So, you know, there's some text amendments that have to Work in uh to to cover that reality as well The maps are all revised the streets map the official map and the regulating plan have all been adjusted to reflect those boundary changes I guess i'm a little bit confused by the statement the last sentence under boundary changes as we work on revisions We may see compromises for either or both areas that have been removed I mean, I understand what it's saying, but It's that concept of we're voting on something and then we're we're but under the Impression that we'll be working on revisions. I guess i'm trying to wrap my head around that well What in in particular as it relates to that mixed use commercial zone, which for most people it's the big box zone You know, it was significantly rewritten 15 years ago along with the entirety of williston zoning and Really since then the landowners have had a really hard time coming up with any sort of development They would like to do that meets that zoning So in some parts of that zoning it's being covered by the form-based code overlay and it's anticipating a totally different kind of development And there's a comfort level with that There's there's a recognition by the planning commission through this process as they engaged with that taff corners park area That you know, probably this landowner is going to come to us looking to make adjustments to the zoning that's been around for 15 years Because it's it's it's not really working very well for them There's this tension between trying to pull buildings to the street and conventional retailers wanting the parking lot in front That's one of the one of the major issues In that zoning district So I I take this in shape and you can come up and correct me if i'm missing it There's an understanding on the part of the planning commission that there will be desired revisions outside of the form-based code area as well And a need to work together with landowners On those so saying well now that it's not going to be in the form-based code area We know we've got some work to do to achieve the town's goals in in this area the form-based code was one way to solve that part of town We know we're going to have to revise in a different way to solve that part of town now Okay Let me ask the question Let me ask the question slightly differently Is there is there value In waiting into those revisions get hashed out before adopting the form-based code Or is there No, the the two areas are really unrelated at this point the official map We took the regulating plan streets and ended them where the form-based code ends and we just drew dashed lines To show connectivity to the planned streets in that area So by way of example, it's just all a little fuzzier on the other side of that boundary Now, okay, um, but we just we just know It's probably more conventional text zoning that looks like the rest of the bylaw that will happen there Or it might be an applicant driven process like a specific plan But we just recognize that something will probably need to happen there if it's not going to be covered by the form-based code Okay Looking for a motion I'm comfortable making the motion. Um, but Jeff oftentimes you want more time to think about stuff. So That is absolutely true Um, but Statement of history. Uh, what's that as a statement of history or it's a statement of history But in the two week rule, um, we used to call it Um, we've had that I guess that's my that was my point is is I mean everything from These meetings, uh, you know met with staff. I read every email that's come in Front porch forum This is a case where I'm not sure what the two weeks will or the week the next meeting will gain us And that was partly, you know, my questions about what is the significance of that? November second week in November Is that really going to gain us anything and At one point I did raise the question of should we, you know, put the brakes on And and we didn't um And my point is that was what two or three months ago And things really haven't changed since that two or three months. So I'm not sure what would change in a week Um, I give me time to think about things, of course But I Given this, okay. It's been impossible not to give this a lot of thought already so, um I'll make the motion, but I'd like to I'm gonna move that we adopted, but I'd like to explain why I'm making the motion sure that first of all the Development is already allowed in this area right now This isn't like it was always going to remain the open field across from walmart forever or something like that This was the development is is on its way or at least it will be um The other thing I wanted to touch on is is I take exception to the idea that that there has not been uh, that people haven't been hurt um, I I I've listened uh We've had any number of hearings and I've paid attention to what people are saying and I've considered it and I've waited and I've thought about it um And I you know as I've said a couple of times in different circumstances in on the select board is that I I don't I don't enjoy disagreeing with people because I I like it when people like me and uh You know, I understand that's not always possible in situations like this But it's not that I didn't respect the opinions. It's not that I didn't hear them. It's not that I didn't weigh them It's not that I didn't understand that that there are people who are adversely affected by this Um, I did um, but on balance. I Think that the form-based code is is the way to go um The other thing is that this is you know, there's this is not going to inundate the town with 10,000 new citizens Overnight. This is not approving a project. This is approving bylaws. This is going to be a 50 year build out I may live to 107 I doubt it, but I'm not going to be here when When this finally gets completely built out Hopefully I'll be here for a good chunk of stuff, but uh, not all But again scores of buildings are going to be built whether we approve this or not Over that same time span The growth management system we've we've spent years talking about sewer capacity and we continue to do it seems to be like You know, this is Jeff's favorite time of the year whenever we do uh, uh Schedule a schedule. Yeah, it's attachment a on that. Um, it's going to be called the memorial jeff ferris But that but the growth management thing It's not some arbitrary and whimsical thing that the select board could say, okay You know what we were saying only 50 units a year Um, and now we're going to change it to 10 000 This it's a question of physical capacity and the physical capacity is not there to do more than that uh, and continue developing Every year and giving other developers another even private citizens who want to hook onto sewer a chance to to do that Um, the sewer is going to be the the sewer capacity is going to be the real Uh, impediment to growth as everything goes forward and and that's not going to change The the the big thing that we've learned recently. I learned recently. I guess it's been around forever Um, is that it's it's not so much the the plant in Essex that we rent from It's the capacity of lake sham plain that's ultimately going to be at capacity to take treated water And you know that I don't know I don't know what's going to happen with that but the the I guess my point is that the the growth management system allowing only 50 housing units to come online in this area on each year is not That that's that's almost a a law of physics It's not it's not something that's going to be changed because uh different select board people come in or or people change their minds Um, and then on balance. I think the aesthetics of it would be a lot better than what we have now um We've been talking about affordable housing Stock but just any any housing stock. I think is a good thing Um in vermont right now And you can't have affordable housing if you don't have any housing Um, the environmental concerns. I noticed that some of the the folks who were opposed to this um Are very strong environmentalists Um, I found that kind of ironic that that they were They have environmental concerns, but they also This this will have people living in an area where they are likely going to work Living in an area where they're likely going to shop where they can go to restaurants where they can have outdoor activities at parks that are within walking distance um, so the environmental concerns I think are are addressed Very strongly with this and then the the last thing I want to say is that um I I grew up in vermont grew up in richmond and um went to richmond elementary school and we used to have to stop Uh at recess when the farmer who wanted to get to the back field Uh wanted to get back there um because the teachers were probably terrified that some second graders going to get killed by a tractor On the playground, but the tractor used to go through our lake Um, and it was read by the what we called the cheese factory at the time. We had Operational dairy farms in richmond growing up um You know when when I go for a ride into non Chittenden county areas of vermont, I see the place that I grew up. I see windmills. I see fields If you walk around Near five tree hill you're going to see mysterious stone walls In the middle of the woods And that's because those were those were pastures for sheep and So my point is that the economy changes that those those beautiful windmills that as I would you know say, you know somewhat Judgmentally as the flatlanders like to come up in vacation and see vermont under glass and nose isn't this pretty Um, those were built so that people could make money the farmers were making money farming and that's why they were doing it um, and Those are not, you know, the economy is changing. Um, and I'm by analogy some day I think we're going to be looking back saying hey, remember when there were box stores I don't think it's going to be in my In the next 10 years But if you go to major cities, you're going to see a lot of retail space that is open now Because the the economy has changed it's changed in a way with online Retail and now the way that we work is changed where you know The vast majority of people don't want to go back to the office full time So I think office space is not going to be what it was So this this has the best chance of providing guidance and the opportunity for people to have For growth to be in a way that will be Look to the future so that we have people living and they might not go to the office They might stay in their own apartment, but then they'll be able to go down and buy Something at the retail areas immediately under them There may be offices that Were designed it so that there'd be offices there But I don't think that those offices are going to carry the full weight of things but my point is that The way people are going to live like this I think is going to be The way that society is is evolving so for all of those reasons I would Move to adopt the unified development bylaw amendment establishing a form-based code overlay district for TAF's corners And create a townwide official map as presented Is there a second Is there a discussion on the motion I just want to add that I have heard Same, I think input from the public is Ted has And I do feel that people have had that opportunity to comment However, the people that I've heard from have been on the side of building height is a huge concern And for me as being representative of The public it's not my vote. It's their vote that I hear back from That I'm I'm not comfortable with something that we can put In place now why we would go back and amend it later when Pretty much everyone that's that's the concern in the room from what I've heard tonight So I just my vote won't be reflective of what I think It's what I've heard from the folks that's been concerning around building height and the aesthetics that that will Possibly be down the road. I know those are not definite things But that's a huge concern out in the public. So I just wanted to put that out there. Thank you I just wanted to commend everybody for showing up and voicing their opinion whether or not everybody agrees I Love to see our town being involved and taking interest in what we're doing here And I think I'm going to steal Jeff's line But I really hope everybody shows up around budget season two because All of these decisions affect our daily lives and this is our town and we want to represent you So thank you for getting involved I'll just be I'll try to be quick as possible two points I'd like to make before voting one is You know kind of what I had heard about foreign base code. I had heard it's a good thing. It's kind of a neat thing It's progressive that type of thing but The more and more I learned about it the more I became comfortable with it and liked that it was a new way Maybe not knew it a different way new indifferent. I guess is correct way to Look at willis in it and look at how taffs corners Should be developed and how that development would Best meet the needs of willis then um so From that standpoint, I still feel that way. It's a better way of zoning in at the taffs corners area Or a more progressive one that I think does a better job The other is is we've heard many people Complain or state their dislike with certain parts of the of the code And I guess my point about that is it's not perfect Thank you chape in for Pointing that out But this is a case where we can't let the perfect get in the way of something that needs to move forward It's darned good. Certainly good enough in my opinion Thank you So this is a long-term plan that gives opportunity for growth to grow Um You know in an organized way Also, it gives willis then a chance to Change certain things within the plan There's an old adage it says if you're in politics and want a friend get a dog and I may have to buy a dog tomorrow Any further discussion on this thing There's been a second. Okay. Pardon me. There's been a second. Yeah. Yes, I second. Oh, I'm sorry All those in favor of motion signify by and saying aye. Aye They oppose say nay. Yeah So the motion passes on four to one We're not moving. Is there any other other business that we haven't taken care of earlier tonight? If not, then we are adjourned. Thank you all for coming I'm