Hello, and welcome to yet another offline catcher. Oh boy. How exciting today We'll be doing the very first ever Hassan stream Wow, when was that when we do that? I don't even exactly remember. It was when we have Adam and sitch on as well Hey They joined us for a little look into his first ever reaction to the knowledge that Jay had Not been happy with his reaction Gosh, one of those days ten years ago if you listen to the Sun Yeah, he's gone so much better Yeah, he's learned from all of his mistakes and has grown as a person.   He's making it happen. That's right.  I like him. It's definitely worthwhile to keep him in check But I mean worthless seems to be a lot more boring through and no emotions, but I would and they're off I have no strong feelings one way or the other. Do you want to be like the neutral people? Maybe you do actually They they lead you to what what is actually happening for realsies and sometimes And they tell you a lot about yourself Get all emotion Mm-hmm. I'll never understand why long critiques would be bad Someone got upset that my one-piece Robin video was 34 minutes. That's a child's play What's funny is yeah, like certainly now and probably a bit then long critique is giving a lot more Accepted now Algorithmically friendly and that wouldn't be algorithmically friendly if people weren't friendly to it Exactly. It's um people want to watch stuff for longer. I think we're definitely I mean, of course There's the market for short stuff like on tiktok and everything but it seems almost makes sense as a natural progression for YouTube Then to almost lean into Longer form content. Yeah I Less less long hate these days That's nice Evening gents the first thing I heard when I turned into tuned into this episode was rapist subjective Hopefully we were Very clear. Yeah opposed to that sign Yeah, I can't understand how anyone can find Britain hot the low last night He was 90 degrees or 32 degrees Celsius today The high is only gonna be 103 or 40 degrees Celsius wetter weather around here. I've been up before I've got some weird biology going on where I'm I way prefer the cold everyone that I know I'm like mr. Freeze Like it's easier, but I also like have no problem in the cold. I don't know what happens to me I've got a weird mutation You didn't know about the best channel on YouTube Jinx reload Like that. I still remember when that was happening.   Yeah, just like well, it's proto twitch viewers. They're just lazy They don't know what else to do Someone else will curate the car. That's a hot it.  Alternatively, you can curate for you Just anything but this please Rags misspoke a while back. He didn't say he ruined grandma. He said he ruined grandma Why there's so much bad grammar out there also high racks. Hi there Oh Ruining grandma. Oh, wow. It's your pretty good boy. I'm there Yeah, react to 3 a.m. Channels next, please 3 a.m. Channels I have no idea what that is. I don't know what those are other sleeping channels channels that sleep And you watch them sleep They're 3 a.m. You got nothing for that one Do not So like do not order Chuck E cheese pizza at 3 a.m. Do not order a sonic the hedgehog to happy meal from McDonald's at 3 a.m Top five scary videos. You should not watch it 3 a.m It took my eyes the sandman ritual at 3 a.m. Okay Cutting open haunted and canto doll Okay The few good reaction channels do what y'all do on the fat movies either have a lot to say or only show the bits Where they actually react to something Seems like the ethical way to do it so the doc viper guy who's Came out hard against it at the same time Jay did with with son Yeah, so his video on it recently or at least one of them and His opening he even mentions like a summary and he includes Jay and says that Jay is way softer on this than he is goes on to say like He's like very strict with how he expects you to do a reaction to the point where I think We wouldn't count as ethical in his system Are why I like you can't wow Yeah, I think his main issue would be that we end up playing videos in full I do not respect that perspective You might even so this is the part that was interesting makes us thinking about it I think he said like he was very much pushing the whole if yours counts as a substitute for the original then you've You know stolen its value sort of thing and to an extent I think that could we could satisfy that like would you rather watch a high top video on blah blah blah Would you rather watch our coverage of high top and someone could be like Once you reach that point it could just be that any negative piece of criticism that would prevent somebody from watching You know what I mean like it's Well, even if even if yeah, even if they said You know what I didn't even think The video he made was that bad.  Well, and this is the thing. I think I would just go as far as saying like oh, maybe maybe it doesn't Satisfy the law, but as far as I'm concerned you can do that to my work and Feel I should be able to do it to yours. I think it's ethical basically I Think that there's a lot of utility to being able to I don't know I want to be in a landscape where you can't go through something in its totality It feels like that just encourages clipping little like that that's kind of The fundamental for why we do it the way that we do it is that We never cut you know, we didn't cut anything out. You saw everything that was on offer everything Yeah, there's no no claim of like context omitted because the full context is available for everybody to see To play devil's advocate I see a fair share of reaction channels that pause every now and then and give their insight But channels like jinx are the worst You wouldn't I mean you wouldn't need a devil's advocate. We are that channel Again, we do a lot of reacting on on e-fab It can often be very fun. There are other reactors out there two different things um So I'm not sure what's going on here I think I might even paste this to you guys see if you can make sense of what we got another strange one Definitely, maybe it's it's done in a way that it's easy to decode but I'm having trouble here I I'm not even gonna attempt to decipher that one He's in he's isn't loudly chocolate It looks like the last thing they say in the first one is what's the stream about is that what they're saying? Something well, I guess they found out I hope so And then And then they ask what's What's the morning about in the second one? Where's the morning about I've always asked myself that question never known. I've always just decided to settle for answers But ultimately I've been waiting for a scholar to tell me Join us on that quest. I suppose Um, but all right Ah pokemane, it's uh, it's a Gundam's future ex-wife if my memory serves correctly her best friend valkyrie Past her a few months back because of the controversies I'm pretty sure Doing fine Didn't she have a thing recently complaining about um Linus tech tips he actually conceded because he referred to her as a nameless creator and it upset her um Oh Yeah, like that's an that's a weird sort of um controversy Gave um some advice on how to do ads in future because the current way they do it is Intrusive to viewers enjoyment of this of the service and one of the ones That she gave because I was talking to jay about this was like They pop up in the corner And they're not like they don't do anything audio wise or something and um But the fundamental premise being like they're too intrusive We need to make them not intrusive and and I remember jv and like oh, that's that's not a bad idea And I was like yeah, because you're the fucking consumer. It's a bad idea for the advertisements. They want you to be intruded Yeah, it's like what they're paying for. Why would they pay for something that can be ignored? entirely like It seemed like kind of face the whole point of the ad really I feel like yeah You're ultimately just gonna have them buying less ad space because the ad space isn't as effective anymore um, yeah And so linus tech tips. I think took what she said And uh said it was dumb Okay And like I said, I think referred to her as nameless, which she specifically pointed out as being very hurtful That's really yeah a lot of things apparently were very hurtful with That's kind of Not like super Freudian. I don't know. I I definitely would I would look if I was the most popular youtuber and I saw someone I like kind of liked who was respected To say that you know the more I'm not fun clue this youtuber is I should be like, oh, okay Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. It's it's just There's plenty of people that are huge that I've never ever heard of Or of course, it's just part of it often reference the makeup genre. It's like they're uh Hyper popular people there that I've never heard of You're just different spares, you know, it's just different spares of the internet we talk about Movies and media in general they talk about how to look good with today's And that is okay. It's just not I don't know anything about that space that world. I don't know how often plague doctors are applying makeup. Hmm So, um, yeah That was funny and she complained and then he apologized. I think Apologize for calling someone nameless. Okay. I think so I guess she knew that he was referring to her Who is her uh Yeah, it was her comments. I think it might even have been her tweet He was looking at it or something But I don't know. Maybe he didn't see the the likes and retweets because then he wouldn't have said nameless I don't know. I don't I don't hugely care. I just thought it was kind of funny that like I I feel like if she had done this during a controversy with it's a Gundam It wouldn't have gone over as well, but she's got a position back maybe Because uh, she got in trouble with leafy as well, but I don't think that had any lasting effects While he got banned. I think all right.  Maybe exactly. It's all done. Nobody cares anymore Mm-hmm. Yep. In fact, by the time people hear me talking about that They'll be like when did that even happen? I'm just gonna be like, yeah, it's old news Nobody cares anymore Which is especially good without news cycles like hours so rapid. Yeah Um Dead nudge is an edge you only chopped it down because it sport his view. What's repremoting about I know that quote I don't oh wait, what was the quote sorry? It's the it's the meme where the guy's like What do you say? What do you say? Yeah Uh, I suppose. Yeah, I suppose. Yes, I suppose But there's that one scene Danny's like speaking very well compared to how he usually does Yeah Then what was it what what is uh, what is that see mine say my Ah, it's a little junk Yeah, the zooms Do you see the uh land of the lost? I did but I don't remember anything about it.  I thought it was funny But they have a scene in there where There there's a character who just speaks in this gibberish language and The they start singing like randomly a song but the song is in pure English and his voice is absolutely beautiful So it's like the the joke Right That's a funny movie. I think I haven't seen it in ages though. I wonder if it's actually funny or if I just had I'm pretty sure it's not.  I think it's from that era like You're kind of like the jack and jill mr. Boppers penguins like era, you know of comedies you remember that like in the late late Thousand two thousands like early 2010s You mean the height of comedy? I remember that genre doesn't really exist anymore You know like those types of comedy movies. You notice that Like they seem to be a lot harder to come by Um, maybe it's just because I'm not aware of them anymore. They're all on Netflix and we just don't watch them Yeah, because Adam Sandler had a deal with Netflix, don't they where he made a bunch of like those types of movies and I mean he was Super instrumental in our Man happy Gilmore is a good movie Yeah um I know y'all saw tomorrow war. They messed up ar carbines made me cringe They messed up a lot in that movie messed up like just continuity uh Well, you guys spend a lot of time on super chat catchups and editing here's some money. Oh We do yeah cracking down now on finishing I'll back I'll back Titanfall 2 free fab gaming looking at you rags Titanfall 2 How would we even play that for I think those are serve as a lost aren't they basically it's a There's like a 10 There's like a project thing that you could use Uh, I think like like a mod or something that got put together But there there is a way to do it though. One thing I will say is right in front right before we started recording this I was playing a game with my friends called sea of thieves And it was very fun. I that that is a that is a very good game I heard that game is heard tremendously from when it came out Yeah, it is Full of stuff to do and it is so charming and wonderful and the graphics are just it's got this gorgeous style to it and it's fun to play with your friends And get on the ship We were on a big old galleon the four of us and we were trimming sails and steering and Anchoring and doing all that good stuff navigating It was it's really fun highly highly recommend sea of thieves if you have some friends to play with there you go Rags, I prefer to blame both the developer and the publisher equally Oh, wow Wait, sorry, could you say that again? Rags, I prefer to blame both the publisher and the developer equally Oh, I guess this may well be about because of time for two came up. I guess we may have talked about because that was um Because wasn't it respawn made a lot of decisions with that game that um, I don't like like respawn made those decisions not be a Like apparently respawn launched it in the middle of call of duty and battlefields release They don't have an interest in like fixing up the servers and reinvesting time into that now Since I think at the time or shortly after apex came out time for two got a bump, but it was kind of just left to wither away Let me check it Really no interest now in um in time for three. It seems like it's apex and these star wars games Which is lame because time for two is like one of my favorite shooters ever It is one of my favorite even just for the single player alone I would highly recommend everyone play it even if it was just a single player, but that multiplayer I I had so much fun fun. It had a it had almost 10,000 people playing today Today Yeah, okay, huh? Oh, that's definitely something It's almost as much as change Halo, I think it's on stale on steam uh currently, but yeah, it's got a It's the highest it's been in a while looks like like that's a game that I would happily buy into a system For if they had like that they'd add a new mech or something every uh, or a new like character class and just add in new maps But yeah, well, it's apex and I don't know. I'm just not as into them battle rails Um Data of emergency by rock star was absolute trash and they did nothing to fix it Alien clone marines was a travesty compared to what was previewed. Hello games is the exception on fixing things Oh, I don't think there are a strict exception anymore, but yes that reveals what episode this is I remember this because that means we're talking about ads about uh, no men's sky, won't we be aware which um As far as I am aware is a Well respected video game as it currently stands They keep adding up well, uh I can't do anything but recommend internet historians video. He goes over it in depth and it's really interesting um because They chose to ignore social media For ages and just work. They just worked work work work work work work Commendable I mean, yeah, especially consider it and um They already got the money They could have they could have just cut their luck and done something new What I remember him point he points out loads of things they did but one of the things was shore mary would like collect All data regarding discussion on the game and then correlate them into like Or categorize them into just all complaints ones that were useful ones that weren't and then what the most complaints were about regarding the game and that would Help order what they would develop first Cool It was it's such a like this is what I mean like it's so hard not to be like this is such a proactive Decision considering the circumstances It's one of those ones where it's like what else can they do they have done the most they can do Uh, it was the whole thing was a fucking unfortunate disaster Um I think as was like, yeah, but they lied like Uh, that's not necessarily untrue or anything. It's just that there's you can understand why they did Redemption stories. I like the life of redemption stories. The lie was more so fueled by They were sure they could make it in time Well, it's because they were an indie studio that was making a game that had a level of hype well beyond the average indie game Um, that game was hyped like massively. I remember I was really excited for it For a time then I didn't buy it when it came out, which was the right decision I never cared about it. I was just keeping an eye and then everyone Oh, wow, this looks neat. It's a coolest.  You get to just explore like the universe It was you you go between planets you fly in and out of atmosphere You have all these places to explore that are you know generated through, you know procedurally and Yeah, and what they showed off like all these Animals and different kinds of planets and foreign fauna atmospheres the different composition beautiful landscapes Like the promise was there But I mean that was a game probably well beyond the scope of what a team like that could make in the time they had Yeah But I'm glad that games get turned around It is it is simultaneously become two Both a cautionary tale and at the same time also a redemption story And it is useful for both purposes. Yeah, and it it highlights to me, um If that doesn't count as redeeming yourself, what could they have done? What could they have done? They they did a lot of things that they didn't need to do to turn it around I mean they already had the money And to not only continue not only to put it towards a state that was close to what it should be But to continually add on to it for free And he is off the wood As I say, you want to it's not you want to price good bad and yeah, you want to reward the good I don't care if it's who it is the whole point is you want to encourage good behavior So if a company does something good. Oh, yeah, well they're EA. He's like, yeah, I know but they did something good So you want to Yeah, so you want to reward them for doing good things And then if they do bad things you do not give them money. They know where their cash comes from You want to send a message with your wallet and never ever spending money ever regardless of anything That is a different kind of message Yeah, well, I think we even talked about this like if you if you make it clear That there is nothing they can do then why would they do anything? Yeah, they won't bother. They'll just be like, well if we're never going to get your money back Then we'll just keep doing what we're doing And we'll try to start a new game.  Just as all I hear is that it's way better now Yeah, that's all I've heard is that it's actually good and it would be really interesting to see what would have happened if The current state was what it launched in Wonder how yeah We were just talking a moment ago I brought up sea of thieves when that game came out It was so lackluster and there was just wasn't much to it It was very disappointing and it was overhyped and all that stuff But now I highly recommend everyone play it because it's just so fun It's played it for hours and hours before the uh our our ketchup today And I I spent money like I spent money because it's their battle pass is so good They're on season six You don't have FOMO because they have a special type of currency whenever something Leaves the current whatever it is rotation or whatever it goes into a special store That you can use you accumulate currency for just those things so they're never gone gone Um and you get so many rewards for battle pass even if you don't play And you also get really cool stuff if you do And it's just there's so much work went into it Like they spent you just the water physics alone in that game are so impressive Just it it's a it is a game that I am happy to spend money in For a thing here and there because I enjoy it and there's so much to do and I enjoy playing it with my friends um As acting like the cancel culture He's uh, he's used I think he made it clear as far as he's concerned they crossed a line that they can't come back from because He was lied to I think we tried to Suggest that even if they gave him his money back because I don't think he ever that was another thing that got a bit weird He couldn't get a refund. He said Which I thought um, I thought it was like Unpressed in an amount of refunds for that game because of the nature of the release I remember cool something like that And if he couldn't get one I wonder if that's less so to do with Hello games and more so to do with whatever platform he bought it from It might be I just yeah, I just don't know. I think that's what our conclusion was. We just didn't know Uh, they were pretty much forced to release by the agreement with sony even if they had wanted to delay Yeah, this is they were in a really bad position And I think they got One delay through at some point, but they they wanted more and they they refused Which is interesting to think about. Um, yeah Is like is it is it a matter of um, is there absolutely no way in terms of the business that sony could actually get the delay? Well, you got to think about a lot of the decisions that these big companies make based on quarters And like fiscal years financial years. There's a lot of things that are just incentives in terms of release So reason why a lot of stuff comes out in march It's because like march is the end of the fiscal year for a lot of companies in the united states And so like trying to get things in and like q4. So reason why call of duty always releases like october through december Never before that never after that. It's because like hitting certain quarters To have your returns for that quarter is really important for shareholders and Just business. So it probably that's probably what happened. They wanted to delay and it's like, no, we wanted out this quarter And then that was the end of it Um, because that's just kind of the nature of it. Um, like there are targets that um, people want to hit uh, or companies want to hit and um Less of a consideration for like how that time is really important for the overall game Yeah, but These conversations just don't happen. That's the reason why I harp on opportunity costs. It's a huge deal and it's never talked about Nobody really talks about the business side of the video game industry Uh, is there a source for them intending to lie arie and and ms? Um The video goes over it. The idea is he went on low to talk shows Sean Murray and said game is gonna have a bcde fg game comes out. It has a and nothing else Like damn, dude.  It's working and it's in there We later discovered that either their build You know Was was running and those things were working except it wasn't like a wide release build or it didn't have The other parts of the game attached to it or something Or it just didn't exist at all and he was saying that it will exist and that's that's enough to Push forward you can judge him harshly for that Um, I can understand judging him harshly for that Though as the video points out, so I'm assuming it's true. So trust internet historian. Um a bcde fg is the whole it's all in there now It's like You know, they eventually did make sure to come through I'm assuming there's still things not in there that were promised but we're talking like I still remember Up in there that was never promised that ended up being in it. I think so. Yeah And like I said, it's just the people who play the game have lots of good things to say about it.  Hello games released despite the masking for more time All the new updates have been no spending besides the base game cost. It is completely different product now than then That's another thing man. Not making people have to pay extra to get all this stuff. Yeah like Yeah, they could have We're called it like, you know, do base mechanic updates You know at some stage they would have been able to and the audience would have been okay with it And they still did probably yeah Because that's the other thing is once the game was getting all these bits and bobs released. They started engaging in social media Yeah, and because they obviously they can come out of their hole at that point because people would be like, hey, I like your game Yeah, they're not they're not throwing hours shooting hours at them It's like, oh the hours have stopped a couple of rocks every now and then Which by the way It kind of it's representative of how to approach a lot of things online It's just like just keep your head down just about to say that our brains are like Oh my god.  That's like Wait, what's the source on that? This is loud enough. Hopefully that guy gets through Face the lawsuit over their name had office flooded had to be out of office Continuously due to bomb threats police investigations a man oversold a passion project and eventually delivered Stop being unreasonable I With the full story of mind Like I said, I think they redeemed themselves and it was incredibly difficult to do so and I think they did it Well, it seems they just went above and beyond they did more than they needed to And that's true that there was um Their office got flooded.   Just a good video I think as this experience with no end sky is similar to what I had with fallout 76 So much bad stuff happened in the beginning it can't be redeemed to me part of the thing though is I'm I mean, this is just a bias. I'm more sympathetic to an indie developer than like Bethesda Yeah, because Bethesda has all the money all the people all the time. Well, and Bethesda is beholden to Bethesda um You know Bethesda game studios is part of Bethesda like it's it's one and the same And it's a team of like what a thousand people Bethesda large. Yeah, it's huge Um, yeah, I I'm much more sympathetic to a team of 20 people than a team of 500 um when it comes to these things But I mean I I would even still think that like there's got to be a path to fixing fallout 76 I don't think they want to though. It doesn't seem like I was gonna say I'm pretty sure this that No matter what that game was and how they lied about it if it ended up being the greatest game of all time Because they kept adding to it and it was all free for updates I feel like we would be sitting here saying I mean What else can they do? Exactly they fixed it and they made it legitimately good. Then I'd be like, wow bravo.  It's like that act was still bullshit But this act is a good thing and we just have to recognize that both of those things can be true Yes, all of you send as an email to apologize for this I assume they're talking to chat or whatever because uh I ain't apologizing. I think as was a little bit, um sad at the end of the conversation or not sad that It's not a bit Yeah, he definitely felt he had a very unpopular position to defend which kudos for the stickity of guns. I suppose under pressure of having everyone else disagreeing but like, yeah, I just It's just a philosophy wise doesn't doesn't gel with me that we can't Yeah, you can't see it that way myself Yeah I get it, but I just don't I totally get it. I uh, I just want to I like my redemption stories I guess that I'd be curious what his reaction to that in a story in video would be be curious what he thinks Studio is flooded. IH's video is very informative Yeah, all of his videos are recent one Deliberately flooded. No, I don't think it was deliberate. All right. Just that they had to deal with the flood But the bomb stuff Jesus. Yeah Yeah, and I remember they had legal issues as well. Um They need developments hard. In fact, they were called hello games got them in trouble Right With Sony, I think as well of all people Not really Yeah, it's this whole thing That video is dare I say evergreen like I I can see myself watching it again soon Good one. I should check it out. It sounds like an interesting watch Um Yeah fist impressions are everything. That's why Zack Snyder's Justice League is horrible right as Um, I imagine he would say with us. They're two different products Which to be fair they kind of are You know Zack's vision and Joss's vision, I wouldn't say that's kind of the same thing as someone updating a game Um Well, yeah, I guess It's an interesting comparison though because that film the the cut that we got that was the Snyder cut was not the cut That was originally what he intended It changed because of the Well, I mean it's much longer than than any film that he could have reasonably expected to ever release The thing is it would have been made better by having to force him to chop down Um, in this case. Yeah, that that film was bloated like considering how much happens in it That could have been achieved in like two and a half hours three parts It's like half an hour of nothing footage in there and people walking Long tracking shots. I mean by nothing footage. Yeah Well, it's just like what are we doing? Why are we spending so much time watching this?  Yes Well, I imagine you could just build suspense indefinitely Yeah, it's dead in 12 hour long movie a building suspense shut up Like I said, I'm way too cynical for this. I think he just did it to make the film as different as possible even in runtime Like I'll add that's all it's four hours think of all that stuff that wasn't in the original version That's what people were saying and it's like, yeah, okay, and then you watch the film You're like, you know, it's not that different Like you know a lot of scenes were in the original they're just longer now Yeah Surprisingly similar, but uh, I don't know everyone everyone was certain that the films were Dramatically different and the Snyder vision is way better no question Want to see entitlement look at stupid chat catch-up comments Oh, yeah, the comment sections on a lot of those uploads are like I don't believe You're you're making these instead of doing your videos because Doing a three hour recording of catching up on people paying you money to send you messages That means that's for the real money is that's where I don't get this That's another thing that I've always found bizarre is they don't even know the nature of this like I hate to say this right because it sounds kind of evil to wait for the second part We've got your money already It's already done. We're like, hello games. I don't even think that you could do anything legally Because there's no binding process that we have to respond to the messages. I don't think Um, however, we want to because we feel morally obligated as well as uh, you know Questions are often very interesting What we consider to be moral obligations and get yelled at for it Exactly I I left playing a very fun game with good friends and you're having a great time and I told them we've Got to do it. We got to catch up on the super chat I was bold and happy to sleep ball, but I was like, no gotta be that card keep delayed. I gotta gotta get in here I I get to play mario card while I do this. Sorry, you know, I wouldn't know that feel Yeah, just hanging out Answering the questions. Yeah being like, ah, you're doing this for money. It's like no actually but money's already being obtained Sorry, we have actually no But at the same time, um, I'm still making videos. I was ringing. So is rax. Don't worry about it. You'll be fine You just got the end game video Uh, I've not been non-stop doing podcasting for like since I think even 2013 or 14 like super early on I started doing weekly podcasts. I told you guys I had several failed podcasts before efap that I hosted One of them was like this special size only talking about a particular topic But one of them was just news in film and gaming different gas, but yeah, they didn't quite work out or I lost a passion for them and Uh, they got replaced by you know a second podcast or whatever, but Just the idea that it's like you already recently started up efap and it's take it over your channel I'm just like you uh, you're a new viewer Like no offense Your attention is normal Is daily four years old people still claim that it's slowing us all down And to be fair I may very well have released more videos if efap didn't exist But then I also wouldn't have released all of the stuff that efap released to with me. Um Well, that'd be a lot of topics and ideas. There's a lot of things that just wouldn't get covered Like if someone said man, I really would have liked a boba fat video But instead you have to make those shitty minis or something like that I'd be like dude, those minis are great But also like it would have been that or nothing probably because it would have been some other project I think they achieve what people would probably want from uh myself with a video We also get the insights from everyone else and you get the fun reactions But I don't see like how it would be so easily determined But that's also true that it would have taken way longer to make um people don't appreciate how long editing time is I think a lot of people don't because they don't they've never done it So they just don't know we got that message every once in a while or it's like I've started editing and my god I didn't realize and it's like yeah. Yeah. Yeah editing is tough. It's a lot of work that goes into it It was um I've told this story before because it's just one that I remember so funny In the discord really early on like you want to be fab someone was like whiz Dfa part two or three or whatever You know, it's on the way coming and they were like I could have fucking made all the parts by now it's like We'll then do it You know, if Like I don't know if Because he he eventually like explained he's desperate for there to be a complete series going over how bad the film is in total And that he could have finished it by now with the same level quality. And I was like then just go do it Yeah, you have a channel growing audience do the whole shebang man You don't need me to do it because like the The the thing of me doing it is the my styles in there, but if you think it's like a The project that anyone can do and it needs to be done and that's that's like be inspired go make it But at the same time it's the double whammy of oh, you'll realize quickly how much longer it takes than you realize If you want to try and get Being so presumptuous or will you forget that you said that I think they would probably still be For making it Yeah, well that or like I'd still get it out earlier than you eventually do That's a pretty funny thing to say for as hard as it may be I'd still do it faster, but I'm not gonna press on and finish this project My point has been proven. You could have done it quicker says I somebody who can't do it at all Well, some of the projects in between tfa never get countered towards tfa's timeline, you know No, because well, wasn't it because you said that they come out every week that was you that was a mistake wasn't it hide site? Yeah, that because well that was originally the plan was to and to be fair I will probably make something that way in future. That's how I made the ds2 series Which is it was all completed essentially except for I think the last episode before I released any of them And you can do that when you've got a way smaller audience But like, you know if I waited until I finished all of tfa before releasing any of them A long time of nothing. Yeah, people would be like, what the fuck? well And how interesting would that be though if I actually didn't release any of them and I just kept telling you guys like Yeah, I've got now like over 10 hours of unreleased video footage.  Why would you do that? I'm just like, well Yeah, um, so that was the intention, but it will be funny to dare release the final part That mistake will be irrelevant. I guess to new viewers to new viewers.  Have we tried slowing it is slowing him yet? I can't remember who we were looking at at that point me either Gosh rags keeps bringing up apex resident four this whole stream shame on you shame High wags. No. Hi Well, remember we watched that meme video that was like how many times did they mention Resident Evil 4 when talking about Resident Evil Village? That was impressive. Yeah but like I don't even need to say it.   Um, that that's a really fun little developer commentary if you learn a lot of things about uh, mainly what was cut from those games Little glitches and errors that they point out like the cinematics that they never got to fix They cut so much out of halo 2 that game was meant to be like a third bigger. Maybe even more than that at some stage It's amazing because that game was not small It's not small. Um, that's an extensive campaign and it had multiplayer and all that stuff Do you know what they're right? You're familiar with what the uh, the original plan was no So you remember the big cutscene when she blows up this super carrier with the bomb How can I forget? It's one of the best halo cutscenes in the series. That was that was gonna be a whole That was gonna be a whole level. That was gonna be covenant ship.  Um Fair enough And uh, I don't like that. I'm always down for more After uh, and in the mission when you're on the uh, it's delta halo is the one in that game Yeah, delta halo. I think um They would after you kill uh regret there was going to be another mission Instead of you just falling in the water and then the grapevine gets you there was going to be a mission called forerunner tank Where you got to drive around and like a forerunner tank that they had uh, they intended to have And so what was the what was originally going to happen was um Chief would be you remember how like arbiter's going to get the uh to get the index from the library um, yeah, like that you shouldn't it's against keys and and um and uh johnson It was actually going to be chief was going to be racing him to get there in the in the tank So those missions would coalesce and then they would both get captured by the the grave mind when they met there And then they would do the uh, and it was originally This is the big thing that they weren't able to finish the game was originally meant to end on earth You were meant to come back to earth and do a big epic mission. The ark was on earth. Oh, wow Okay, yeah, that's a big difference. Where because halo too. Just nice to end on that that baller cliff and they ran out of time They uh, they ran out of time. They couldn't do it um Because the plan was you come back with like arbiter and and like this new alliance with the elites that would be like pushed forward into two and um, you realize that what they were digging for in halo three that is the portal to the ark that was going to be the ark um Because if you remember they didn't even know like in halo two the fleet was so small because they didn't know what they were going to They didn't realize it was earth and then um Basically the reason why the ark was on earth was because the big reveal that the term that the humans in the forerun is one in the same um You like arbiter finds out out as the ark is collapsing after you've defeated truth Stopped all the rings from firing and then saved the day and then that would have been the end And whatever halo three would have been would have been radically different obviously And yet somehow even with all the changes they made it work really well I think they made it work really well There's a part of me that really likes the idea of the world where halo two is so fucking epic Um, but I mean I really like the trilogy that we got Yeah, absolutely So yeah one day moller will play them and he will Play three Have you only played for an orange? I thought you would have played the first two Oh, no, I said rags. That's a better memory than you apparently like I've said many times. I haven't played what I do All right one one is really great. That's like a really strong beginning middle end campaign. Yeah, it's I really enjoy one it has that It's it's it's that it's it's that bridge between old shooters and modernist shooters It really feels like this is This is the stepping stone that was used For how do we get from the old shooters into what we kind of consider modern shooters now? Because everyone's still trying to you know, it's like a lot of things when they're first starting out They're they're trying to figure it out. They're they're finding their place How do we make it work? It kind of marries the much more open-ended design of a lot of 90s shooters with something that isn't strictly linear, but um Like it's it's definitely more um directed But I mean the the main thing is like if you look at halo one, it's like it's kind of no wonder that halo becomes It's such a great little like game There's so many cool ideas like when you land on halo you walk out of the the escape pod And you see the ring stretching into the sky in this beautiful landscape It's like that's a really great Like that's a great moment in a video game And then the same with the silent cards horror for it's like this is a really fantastic engagement going on the beach Running up the beach and fighting all of the covenant with your marines by your side And of course the reveal of the flood for something that was made in a pretty short amount of time Um Like that that's a there's so many cool things about that game reveal is so good in that game It's so it's so good You really feel it and then of course the big reveal as well that like the halo is a weapon that will destroy you What a fucking awesome idea halo is a weapon you can use it to kill the flood Oh No, it kills you that's how you defeat the flood Damn, it's like you change something from this is a really pivotal thing that will change the course of the war to We can never use this We can't and the covenant want to yeah the covenant want to use it It's part of their religion and it's like but you don't want to use it and you need to But you need to kill the flood you can't let him escape It's like that is a great predicament to put the characters in halo one is awesome. That can be so cool What happened now? Oh, yeah, so exciting halo's a show Love is the last episode out This week Yeah It's gonna be great It is going to be amazing What they set up for season two Uh Please do an e-fab episode coverage on internet lol cows sometime in the future good rat material out there also high racks Hi I'd rather not I don't want to turn into a laugh at people channel really Yeah, that's just that's a byproduct of our goal Like it's not the goal It has really bad take on the media and it turns out They're just a weird crazy person with strange things in their room Or they move their hands around a lot or the just the you know the little things that you just pick up incidentally It's not our goal to go and find someone who is lol cowl material But it all is a byproduct of the videos and what we cover in them Holy hell metal cat noises when can we have them during the hot tub ds2 stream? Yes, that's the formalde this idea Yeah Pokemon is one of those people who lightens their skin on camera via makeup and in photos via editing even her assumed ethnicity is fake I don't know anything about that. Um, I don't know anything about it I don't know that you could presume that intentional would be like that the lighting is bright because a lot of a lot of youtube channels have like kind of brighter lighting The famous Danny Nicholson Definitely overexposure That was like overexposure though, isn't it once all the details in the face kind of get lost because it's so bright Oh, yeah, but it makes your skin look brighter I guess it's a balancing act right like you might want to make the scene bright But you want to make sure that like your features don't get lost in um In the bright bright light exposure. Yeah, that's the criticism obviously and uh Then you can you go to be careful saying things like that you could be labeled a sexist the rest of your life Uh, Hassan you're right for calling out contra points for posting once a month and making eight figures from patreon um Wait contra point, does she make like really detail like big well research well edited videos with like these big Very um elaborate sets This is the thing contra points makes content as far as I'm concerned. I don't know that Hassan qualifies sometimes Contra points make content whether or not you like So if we like I don't know I don't know about that that Not comfortable with just then that's it. That's an exchange Still very voluntary as well in terms of Like you you see a work and then you get to pay if you want more of it. Hassan's is more like I'm baffled that people pay for like I don't understand Well, especially when I can't see where that money is translating it because at least with contra points It's like, you know what you look like you have a channel that has a very healthy patreon Like in terms of how elaborate these sets are and how good the video quality and editing is Yeah, and the research you can track Um contra points success through that Omegar, right? I like his back pains video. It's got this set and all of these like really snappy editing Didn't piker refer to whoever shot dan Crenshaw's eye out as a brave soldier.   So it's like I don't know man like star jeez Uh seems like the obvious answer here is to make your video and stream yourself watching it to the circumvent demonetization Um, I guess kreos can do that. They want to I wonder if that would be in the probably gets you in trouble, wouldn't it? To stream stream your own video If it was to circumvent demonetization like if the video got demonetizing you to live stream and then what like run ads on it Or I guess through like YouTube doesn't demonetize your stream as well. That's their fault like well, I guess if they're giving you superchats It's like well, that's different right people are paying. That's not ads. So yeah Actually, yeah, probably makes sense It could even provide some insights on creation Yeah, exactly I gotta go. I hope you all have a great day YouTube Yeah, I hope your day went well those many years ago Uh while I don't like video reactions to me the argument against does sounding like the arguments against let's playing Would you say they are different? Yeah But the problem is in a sense. No in the in the we're cool with reacting We do that It's specifically that people who don't do anything. So like I said, there is an awkward element as far as I'm concerned to long plays Yeah, where it's just the game uploaded in full Actually, the highly story story driven games because that to me we've come across this before but what's the difference Between something like that and something like you scan every Page of a comic book and you read out all the dialogue and show all the pictures Well, yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about those ones because they are like a full-on substitute for the original And you're like well, it's presented differently because you've done the commentary over it's like, I don't know if that's good enough Yeah, I mean if you if you go to the theater and copy a movie with your Your thing your camera or phone or whatever and then you do some talking over it Well, I think I think you're like If you had a film and you did the dubs for every single line, but it's the whole film Like you've redubbed every line in your voice, but it's all the same content. It's all It's the film in full with all of the visuals. It's just that you've dubbed it Like I don't see in any world where that would be good enough. Um, that's a substitute. Definitely We've been my my head minefield something's wrong with that didn't seem right Uh Striking reaction videos is a slippery slope in a way you also do reactions You do better commentary, obviously, but you still play entire videos stealing content potentially taking away views I I don't think we've ever advocated really for a just going on like striking sprees on anybody You think is being unethical with the reacting we would prefer social pressure Yeah ways of Convince people to do it better or pressure them that what they're doing is not right. Um, however If a content creator sees that their video has been free booted as jay called it or stolen, uh I can't say I would take issue with them Striking the channel that did it Well, it's a tool that's made available to them if someone struck us, um for any coverage that we've done It'll be absurd like they're they're not gonna be they're not gonna do well in the public arena Let's call it that.  It's like Oh Um, but you go what about e-faps like 10 minute video four hours like Yeah, seems like seems like they transformed it something's going on here something is getting added And I can guarantee you it. It's not dead air. Yeah, and I think that statistic alone would Make people really second guess whether or not they'd want to break everybody. They'd be like, oh, okay, not them um Is it red letter medias mr. Plinkett house set What the house in jays in jays video? Oh, this house is very small. It's basically the room with the kitchen. Yeah Um, I don't even think those are connected the the room in the kitchen I think those are two different places two little set parts Sorry, if the kitchen is even a set or if they just use the kitchen, that's a part of that building I do not know I would suspect that that's the case. They probably just used it only used I think I've used it a couple times, but it's probably just the kitchen area For that building that they have and I think they used it at the end of the best of the worst To melt something in an oven So it's probably just what they use it for yeah I would wage you Wow, is this like an irl tour of ryan's house ass? I think we're talking about ryan kennel I I hope he takes better care of his house My goodness This is once the home of movie bob. Tell me have you ever heard the tragedy of doft chippin the wide? There are chippin the wide Yes, hello mooper and rags. Hello Hi Um, I was listening back to all the refabs and heard you say stranger things season two is bad And I wanted to hear why if that's okay. It is absolutely okay if you to ask any problem It's been so long now that I can't remember exactly why so I'd have to re-watch excited season four Um, I had to be talked into watching season three, so I don't think I'm going anywhere near season four Oh, wow That was when he because a friend of mine was like I still like stranger things. He does not like it anymore That's not even doing me. You just he thought season three was terrible Which it is I got two more seasons left right this season four and five Yeah So the common sentiment and it's true is that they never needed to go past season one But for the amount of story they had to tell The fact we're gonna end up with six seasons is that a joke or well five I guess It's yeah, it's too popular though. It's like the most popular thing on Netflix when it came out, right?   I just knew about it every once in a while And it's referenced for the past it had I never really get I thought it was cancer or it was ended or just stopped I had no idea So subreddit hf y had a problem with a youtube channel taking stories posted there and putting them in a tax speech generator Monetized and linked to patreon Yeah, that's another thing that's like is that fair? I guess so I don't know someone Tells their personal story on a subreddit that relates to the particular problem And then a bunch of other people do it gets popular as a place where people can share them and then someone takes them all puts them in a text to speech And can monetize the whole process like what do you think about that? I don't know These are difficult questions Hard to tell where the the labor comes in and where the exploitation comes in exactly Um, but that's happening in all kinds of subreddits where stories are posted and sessions are had Because there are videos I've seen where people like put heavy effort into editing To have like visuals applied to the stories or there's voice acting that really enhances it People want to like outright ban the process But if you're doing like the lowest effort version of it and you start making shit tons of money and nothing None of it goes to anybody who did the writing it feels feels wrong I guess um, well, so it seems like this would be comparable to doing audiobooks for other people's books And then putting visual yeah, and then profiting where they don't at all Yeah, um, right Like I said, they don't they don't even like they didn't even get an initial profit Because they're not selling their stories on reddit Yeah, they don't Yeah Which is interesting, right? It's like you're like this is for the world and then someone packages it and says no, it's not They have to pay And you're like, excuse me. Yeah, exactly Um, they didn't ask permission some argued since it was posted to a public website There's no copyright problem. So is it wrong to strike any thoughts? Well, so if I if you post something you've created on a public forum that doesn't mean people can copy it You have copyright over anything creative you make as soon as you make it Like if you draw a stick figure and you post it on twitter and someone's like well You post it on a public forum so I can use it how I want it's like no, that's actually just absolutely doesn't factor into it at all um That yeah, that that's not how it works like if I posted my screenplay or something on the internet You can say that was maybe stupid because someone would copy it, but like doesn't make it any more or less like okay ethically or uh or legally The I guess the problem is that it's like What does it mean for a comment to be recognized as like a piece of literature? You know in the same way as a published novel Like what does it mean for someone to assert copyright over their comments on youtube? But the problem is it's like we're someone posted chapters of like dune in comments It's not like that isn't a breach of copyright. Yeah Nobody's had to answer these questions because these questions need to be answered by courts When you have these sorts of conflicts We are we do not have a good understanding of how to apply the internet to these sorts of questions Oh Um, also I uh use the loo real quick. We are back My first super chat you and the efap crew motivated me to stop my own channel give the good work by the way I enjoy the super chat catch ups Good to hear. Hopefully in that last year you've made good progress on uh on your youtube. Yeah, whatever it is You're up to Good stuff. Oh my god super chats. Wow. Y'all just want money gosh done Can we at least get some low effort edited efap movies also efap movies Prince of Egypt someday? Uh, probably I don't know that would be conducive. Do you reckon that'd be conducive to a Prince of Egypt? Why not? Hmm, I guess I'm just wondering with that one Because I do I do like that movie a lot. I guess I'm not sure how much I'd be saying while I'm watching it though Um, I mean, you know, we were six Like like it all worked out with like 101 Dalmatians Mulan I was thinking about 101 Dalmatians and how it's like, yeah I think there's always going to be stuff for us all to comment on Be it animation storytelling choices all that stuff Yeah What are you guys thoughts on Robert Ann jr. Sherlock home movies? I like them I like them. I think the first one was really good the second one. I was like kind of if you're on but I like his Sherlock Holmes I did. Yeah, I like them as Sherlock Holmes. I'm making a third one, right? Oh, are they? Yes I don't know if there's any progress since the last time looked into that though But yeah, I really like the um the first one's approach with like a villain that was kind of driving him nuts because He'd almost convinced him essentially that magic is a thing He was sure that couldn't be and then when he cracks it all in the end and explains everything and in what I thought was quite a satisfying way a lot of the the sort of How he did a lot of the quote-unquote magic Definitely a sort of Baskervilles adjacent concept for a story Where it turns out in the end. It wasn't spectral. It wasn't magic.  It's not like he's the arch enemy of Iron Man Unbelievable seriously Like the character god damn I was familiar enough to be excited when I saw the trailer So I was like, I know enough about the Mandarin and what it means to iron man that this is gonna be great And then they have that trailer that everybody got hyped over and it was a lie I talked about it before but like when I was watching it in the cinema I was like we are running out of time to do The story what is going on? And then oh boy, how did you feel when you saw that scene? Oh just confusion then frustration Good old-fashioned Still people out there to this day being like Iron Man 3 is so over hated It's not it is if anything it is under hated Yeah I feel like some people don't even know exactly why they take that much issue with it And they do just cite the Mandarin stuff.  No, 60. Sorry. I've not heard of it another line Interstate 60 I don't yeah, I don't know about that All right, then Who wins between Kang and the it I guess It Kang's not that great Um, well, he's the guy I know so little about the it It's just like a spooky bad thing kind of I kind of remember what it just makes bad things happen. Exactly. I assume the eight wins. I don't know I assume so because they I because in a wrinklin time Which is another one of those one out of ten movies that we often that kind of flies under the radar sometimes Yeah But it was it is it the first one out of ten we watched I wonder Is that our is it the first one out of ten it might be um The first one was the same thing Certainly not no not the last unfortunately a recent 0.5 entry. That's uh Impressive impressive. Yeah Hello, e-fap crew. You've all been doing amazing work as always started out with more made my way over here I have some dollar reduced. Thank you very much. Oh, thanks uh We have jurisdiction everywhere colonizers After a series of falcon with a soldier weapon Yep Is max lord's son named tim pool? I don't think so I don't I don't even understand. No, I don't know what that means Um, if reedon splashes face with coffee, he would have been melted and then kissed himself Oh, which did I I can't remember because Wait, did I splash my face with the coffee? Sound like something I feel like I'd remember that because it's a strange thing to do I never remember spilling coffee on my desk, but I don't remember splashing coffee in my beak Or is it you're imagining my beak in the coffee just glug glug glug through the beak Which of course is not how it works. I thought this whole time you denied it when rags called it a beak I never denied that the beak that there's a beak in my mask. I'm just saying as I'm making it heard I've never denied that the existence of the beak. It is a beak.  You know, I'll Sure Moller and I know we know The truth is out there If you want a great movie to watch raid and raid to a great action films Uh, they're the best movies this decade be a great watch for e-fab So I don't think they're the greatest movies of the decade, but I do like them. Um I remember liking raid one more than two as an overall film though You guys have seen raid right? Yeah, or are you not? I have not We you you sure they're really They're really fun action movies. Um with a lot of emphasis on strong choreography Um like the fight the fights are great. They're really that's what I hear all the time. Is that the fight? Raid two's final fight is like in terms of a one-on-one fight. It's one of the best, um It always makes it to the top 10 less of like best fights. What's up there with like the wheels on meals? Um, yeah, like those sort of fights. It's a really great one but um Because it's one of the benefits that the raid had is because it was such a claustrophobic setting It meant that it was a lot easier to justify fights where everybody attacks one-on-one because there's not a lot of room for them to fight um And of course a limited setting as well no means of escape It's constant pressure one of the cool things as well as it was kind of unclear when you're watching it Who's gonna live and die? It's not really clear who our protagonist is at the start It becomes clearer towards the end, but like everybody is at risk of dying. This is a really tense movie Raid 2 had a lot of cool action scenes, but like the story of raid 2 is much more a haze. I don't remember it as well Uh blue versus sheer con. Who wins? Uh I feel like sheer con's got that one. I think sure con is well. They fight remember They do fight blue does fight share con and sure con fucks up blue blue puts up a fight But blue is not a Fierce blue is not a gridly bad.   He share con is like a He is he's not just a tiger. He's share con the tiger Specifically, he is particularly fierce and blood thirsty Everybody says Oh no The John Fabro remake is better than the original and I wonder if I really am Well, we can do that sometime Yeah, I would love to watch the original again. I don't know The remake but we'll see I've watched both of them. I remember I definitely watched the original I remember watching the remake and I was like, yeah, this is like fine But I mean, I don't know why I would I think it's just because the jungle book the original just doesn't have the same Reputations a lot of other picks are not picks are as a lot of other disney classics I think that was the Yeah uh I was well, I was gonna say that it has one of One of my favorite songs in it is I want to be like you Oh, okay. It is one of my favorite songs that disney's ever done. I love that the big band jazzy kind of It's just so upbeat and bouncy. I love I just love that song. I love that song. It's one of my favorites That the jungle book the original was the last film that walt Disney produced I think that was the last one they produced before he passed away um So I was definitely in the era because that was still like Because it was the 80s was like kind of the hard time for disney theatrical animations. That was when they started running into trouble 70s and 80s um, and then great mouse detective kind of helped keep them going and then Little mermaid brought them back into like the spotlight And then they made robin hood in the 70s. I think which they're remaking Yay, they can't help but remake wool Uh, the tallytubbies may harness the unholy energy of the sun baby But don't underestimate the power of your gabba gabbians and their ewok master I wouldn't dare I wouldn't Uh, the tiger was a significant threat during the war Which one Whenever someone says something like that, I assume we'll we'll one The tiger Well, they're probably they might be referring to world war two because the germans had a tiger tank Oh, they might be talking about the type To just be a play on words, but I'm assuming this is tied to the whole tiger versus bear question I figure because this might have been the genesis. Well, it was because uh There was no no well I'm I'm I'm getting lost in my history. There was no World war one never made it to india, but world war two was like kind of close Unless I'm mixing them up. No. No, I'm pretty sure that's right. Um Hmm, maybe they are talking about the tiger tank and just playing on words Yeah Hashtag team grizzly bear Wow, we've already settled this one it seems like the grizzly bear definitely is the widow Um, yeah, he's an aggressive boy Uh, he's a big boy If we're talking subspecies there's a subspecies of grizzly called the kodiak bear that rivals a polar bear in size Yeah, kodiak was the one that's like that one who will mess mess you up You like the band ice nine kills the early work was a little bit too seeding for me But when the silver scream Silver scream came out. I think they really came into their own commercially and artistically No, I'm not familiar with that band. So I could not tell you I'm not the person to ask for that one But ringy, what about a tiger versus 100 midgets? Oh Uh I feel like the tiger definitely loses, but I mean a lot of 100 midgets coordinated. It's like an ant colony There's going to be a lot of casualties for sure. Um on that side, but nevertheless, I Do I'm the dependent on the arena if the tiger manages to You know, like if you put tiger in the jungle or something Um, if it if it's if it's aware of not looking to you know, like you don't want to stay in one place too long It just it moves around and swipe swipe and they don't have any weapons outside of their bodies I actually would presume that they would coordinate to stick together and not split up Just walk around in a giant circle and never the organization and intelligence of midgets is not something to be understated Yeah, well, yeah, um, I feel like um, I feel like it's I feel like most animals I feel like a polar bear would be one that that would be really difficult to take down. Um, even if you had 100 People working well 100 people working together that that'd be tough Yeah, it's just I don't know any animal that isn't like a germ That that wouldn't be able to kill a hundred Or that would be able to kill 100 people especially because humans are very resourceful and cooperative I think hippo might be a challenge because like I don't know what it means Well, so I remember I saw an image a couple of days ago that was like hippos are like not fat. That's muscle like Them being really big ain't fat. That is muscle Um, so any attempt to try and kill a hippo is going to be really difficult if you have no weapons and even if you have weapons you know Definitely some really crazy critters out there Yeah, this one just says bear Oh bear Discovery's animal face-off season one episode seven tiger versus bear Oh, I did that already I wasn't surprised me again, right? That's gotta be so many people have asked before and I wonder if they go into like all the different species and For the likelihood maybe I would because different different because like I You put up a sub your entire against a black bear the tiger wins um Like every time I would imagine You put them up against a brown bear. It's a little more complicated. You put them up against a polar bear It's not a contest the polar bear wins I'm not gonna interesting that polar bears polar bears have a reputation that does not befit how fearsome they really are I think like a lot of people would think that a grizzly bear is scarier than a polar bear when polar bears are like They are not afraid of humans.  Yeah, yeah, but I Exactly, I think it's I think it's a few things. I don't think people fully appreciate just how big polar bears are I think we would ask a lot of people what the largest one is they'd say grizzly bear when of course it is a polar bear by a decent margin And I think it is as well that uh, I don't think that people often associate like Arctic animals with ferociousness I think that like the idea of a grizzly bear in the forest like you said right because of humans encountering them I think that just seems more Threatening than I think walking around in the arctic in a polar bear, you know like saw you. Yeah um So I think uh culture has a lot to do with it too and sharks are generally the go-to example of that Jaws for instance sharks are they're very ferocious predators. They look very intimidating Um, there's that element of they're in the water and you know Culture has court sort of it made them seem a lot more deadly and fierce than they really are against people Whereas polar bears you see them in coca-cola commercials and they're having a great time and you know things of that nature so And as well kind of like the post a child of um climate change right like often the first save the polar bears Yeah, well, I want to save the polar bears too. I guess it's just I do When you think about a polar bear, I also want to save myself from them What I'm saying is like I guess uh what I would say is apt as a comparison for sharks is like you got much more reason to be afraid of like a killer whale Then you do a shark Like killer whale is a ferocious, but they're whales You know, like I don't know that there's that and dolphins as well. I kind of fear some too in a sense Yeah, like they seem super friendly, but I mean Like they're they're yeah dolphins. Where are sharks? It's like I guess it is just the look versus what they actually capable of Like even an orchid has a bit of a friendlier face than a shark But it's not friendlier at all Uh, Fringy was wrong about bojack and we truly trust his opinion on tigers high racks I was worried about bojack in the end In the end you were right at the beginning too Yeah People did like the hot take and that's okay. It was okay You knew it wasn't popular one Knew that going in Just the reality I feel like rags is a slight feline prejudice so on variants. Why do they exist at all if there's only one timeline? Oh, sorry, that's a different thing then uh Uh, well cats are fine. I'm totally cool with cats. Um Cats are great cats really like me Sorry my owner The they When i'm over at a family member's house or oh No, i'm over at a family member's house Or a friend's house cats seem to warm up to me Quite a bit. I don't know what it is about me if I just look approachable to a cat for whatever reason if my Particular features or my chill. I don't know what it is But cats tend to really like me and cats i'm totally cool with cats cats are cool Um, so just get that out of the way Uh right off the bat there Um, and what was the second part here the Well, they said why if uh on variants. Why do they exist at all? There's only one timeline. It's just they branch off and that's how they exist Yeah, that's there's the sacred timeline and everything that isn't a part of that sacred timeline is essentially a mistake that needs to be trimmed Yeah, and like when low-key does the thing they're like we've got to fix the timeline He just created by dropping a grenade in it and then taking him out of it Because he's the one that fucked it up when in reality. He's not at all.  They were totally punished. What do you mean? They were absolutely punished to say like To have your reputation literally be as low as possible throughout the entire world to the point We can't show your face Only to then silently be working to actually restore things and make things right Yeah, like and if you if you're saying, yeah, but they never serve time.  I don't I don't know There was to be fair. I don't I don't know that I demand they go to jail.  We don't know It's part of video game development Is there are things that you can try to implement that it eventually becomes clear that it wasn't never gonna work and that's like To a degree, right?  Isn't there like who's the guy who's famous for this the one behind fable and stuff Oh, Peter Mullenew. Yeah, he says like He's like His name is forever associated and inseparable from you are making promises Yeah, that you just that will not that was just not Todd Howard as well, right Todd Howard has that reputation too Yeah, he does kind of yeah, he absolutely does nobody wants to hear about how you might have some awesome stuff It's like no, I want to I want you to say you definitely will so I can get hype without feeling bad That it might not happen this stuff is so yeah, it's unfortunate And um, yeah, I don't I wouldn't need to be convinced that they they should have gone to jail for what they've done Uh, what a midweek-ish e-fap. Here's some flouples Oh, yeah, we did we've done e-faps in the middle of the week before it's happened been known to happen Um as a mola the fuck's going on in your country. Have they not seen south park online id? I'm embarrassed for you guys and my president is dr. Jill biden Uh, I'm not sure what you're referring to with this one exactly Maybe it's the the vax passes On the topic of animal fights, let's bring in some fantasy animals from monster hunter. Look up aster loss and rathalos Which one do you think would win?  Astalos So i'm gonna look up. I got pictures pulled up of them I don't know anything about monster hunter. Rathalos looks awesome So dragon's awesome. Um I feel like it's a wyvern Idiot That's true with the wyvern because Yeah, two legs and it's front. It's front limbs are the wings. It just saved you from getting pima cancelled. They're bringing Yeah Look dragon. There's there's drakes wyverns dragons Drake's wyvern dragons. There's worms, but I think those are not there's yeah worms wyverns drakes dragons And they're all like similar but it has to do with like their alignment of limbs and what their wings are not Point being I don't know if cobalt's are part of it. I don't think so. It depends cobalt's are generally different but I'm looking at pictures of astalos and rathalos and i'm trying to I couldn't tell you which one win. I I don't know. I don't know enough about monster hunter. I have no Clue I think Looks really cool Rathalos does look cool. He looks like dinosaur like, you know, he's got that dinosaur. You look to him He looks a little bit more chonkier, but the other one looks sharper Uh, yeah, I don't know. I suppose I could see him both kind of going toe to toe I think astalos looks like he might be deadlier. He looks more armored And sharp um But I can't show images and I'm I'm familiar with them, but I it's like Basically what rags is said is pretty much all I would say Yeah A lot of this has to do with because I'm now I don't know what their sizes are based off of this these pictures, right? Oh, it'll be on the wiki Do we have a size So that they both have in-game units, but that's fine. I can compare them to it looks like they are I guess that means male and female, right?  Does it looks like a Decrown The other thing about the size is it looks like they're almost identical in size Yeah, they're basically the same size based off these numbers if I'm reading them correctly, which I may not I'm just going off of sheer numbers um Yeah, I while I look the like I I look the like I like the look of rathalos quite a bit It looks almost like it could be real in a sense like a dinosaur sort of thing a dinosaur wyvern um And astalos looks very silly Yeah, I don't know who'd win.  I don't know. I have not played the monster hunter games heard they're fun I've not played them Watch jesse gender review of lowkey final episode. She loves new track as a friend of steve schives and thinks that star trek 2009 is a masterpiece That's her I like how you just have she's a friend of steve schives that If you can be friends with steve schives, I do wonder what kind of person you are A case of how insane he is at like associating with people Yeah I guess let me take a look steve schives Last video was 19 hours ago. Um, I guess I'm still very much active He has one of the worst profile icons here. Let me show you is his uh his icon for youtube It's just like One of it's it's one of the worst That's a weird framing. Like there's a lot of negative space Just for some reason No, that's actually odd. You're right, right? That's a really bizarre like Profile picture this most people would want to send to themselves, but he's different It's not only not centered. It doesn't seem to be off centered for any artistic reason It's just like a plant back there. Yeah, it looks like a mistake Like he didn't know that he could readjust the picture with an editor or something like that Because there's just a plant over there and a white wall and you can see the crease of the ceiling And I think that's also that his head is quite small relative to the size of the body Yeah, like his body takes up like a fourth of the whole picture And I imagine it has nothing to do with the actual size of his head. It's just framing Um perspective. I don't know what's happened. That's odd. That's really odd I'm not sure why it would be like that Um, yeah, he does Star Trek Yeah, he does Star Trek stuff for the most part as I as I'm Pretty yeah, I think that's what he's done for ages is to Star Trek stuff Well, good for him Good unions and police unions Interesting title Didn't Dr. Strange is multiple realities in Infinity War? Interesting question Now, yeah at this stage, isn't it?  I don't know.  Nah, sorry. No, I believes you No No one does Not even that doctor that you spoke to Yeah, well the film has the balls to ask the question and then doesn't do anything with it because I don't even know what the film's point is in terms of its answer to that question Our answer is you were a reckless fool who cost the world so much while the film's perspective seems to be Yeah, you know what? You shouldn't sacrifice one person to save the multiverse Like wait, what why? Wait a minute A lack of A different perspective that's presented to him that would maybe force him to Explain his position that that doesn't happen. It is it is very weird that this well But it's clearly the wrong position to take is just flat out Just called the good thing I think it's a persistent problem in these movies Is that there will be two perspectives that must compete and unfortunately one of them is pretty indefensible Um, but the indefensible one will be the one that doesn't have all of the appropriate questions raised And if they're raised they won't be answered There'll be a fight so that you don't have to think about it If multiverse of man is originally had the the illuminati question him for how he made the wrong decision regarding Thingy that could make some sense in terms of them Changing it to incursions because incursions just fuck the narrative. I don't think incursions were made with this in mind By the way I brought up all the incursion fuckery to on an open bar catch up and I there was a comment on that said I love how much more just doesn't understand what is meant by incursions And I was like, oh I need to see stuff like this because like if I've missed an obvious component That can make the whole film make more sense It genuinely could improve it by like an entire point because the incursions really fuck everything up And they were like incursions only happen when there's more than one of you. That's the point Oh That makes it even worse if that's the case and dr. Strange because it barely fixes anything Yeah And they went on to say A revised version of this actually isn't that it's more than one of you It's when You're in places You're not supposed to be the reason it doesn't apply to america's because she's supposed to be all over the multi-verse According to whom and I was just like wait a minute Where you're supposed to be Because I I thought it made some sense when it's like you have like a residue of your universe and when you go to a different one It's like it's an incongruent Material and thus the universe starts to get unstable. It's like, okay. I can buy that but being like You're not supposed to be here. It's like, what does that mean? It says who according to whom the arbiter of all existence Yeah, like you got it mechanically that doesn't Say that you don't know Cursions then say these things. I don't know um because then they went on to say to be fair Mola would still be able to poke holes in this because that really only accounts for america I was like, yeah, the incursion thing I was talking about applies to Dr. Strange her parents like a scarlet witch. Yeah, like what Your explanation Really helps one element and even then it doesn't because is reasoning for how she belongs everywhere And thus wouldn't cause an incursion is that she has the powers like give it a power can be taken So does anyone who has her power then is allowed to be everywhere? Is that how that works? I don't know seems like it's just really bad writing. Yeah, and the comment finished off was saying to be fair I shouldn't have to like headcanon all this It's like, yeah The comments just had a bit of an awkward like But it is all just headcanon in the end they're like, then why do you put the what thoughts that's Then why do you talk to me? Yeah, I will hopefully discover How the incursions make sense one day, but I'm almost certain now that they were added In exchange for a different storyline, which would have been more so about dr. Strange's decision in infinity wall Which to me is much better If you actually had the illuminati say like our universe dr. Strange did one of the suggestions We've always had right and it worked really well. Why the hell didn't you do that? Yeah, and it's we just have to write it as there's a reality that he Really overthought the situation and never considered some of the most obvious and simple choices Which sucks, but like what else can you do at that point? What can you do once you've established what you did in infinity wall? And um, yeah Maybe it's a matter of he looked into the time stone saw that solution and didn't want to risk any other ones because he knew that one would work As opposed to the other so that might not and then they they can explain to him like just because The plan isn't like perfect doesn't mean you should then opt for the one that causes the most damage But will work or something and then have a discussion about that Should you go for the 99% workable plan?  Yeah I'm the film could have a lot Alas, that's not what happened. No, not even close Um Here's one of yous as an icebreaker. How many permanently enraged four-year-olds would it take to murder a Peminently enraged adult silverback gorilla enclosed in a bare square room before it drowns in gore Hmm no suggestion so far Drowning gore. Sorry read read that one more time. I got lost halfway through for some reason I'm assuming you just didn't hear the first part I I don't think I don't even think I don't even know if I did Do you hear it ringy? Uh, I did But I mean, I don't know even know where to begin with this one You got your four. Let's let's set the stage.  Okay I have no idea. I don't think I don't know if four-year-olds have the capacity to kill Angry This even helps. I don't know that that's even a thing that would help Um, and also like there's no way to ascertain the second parameter if we don't know how large the room is So this is kind of an unworkable question. Yeah Sorry I just um, I guess they threw in the whole drownable with gore thing because they they also assumed There's a chance that we would assume that the four-year-olds don't have a chance at all Unfortunately, you forgot to account for how large the room is so Well, I guess that answers their own question. However long it takes to fill it To the point where the gorilla can't survive. Yeah, so you do the math on that one Uh, what was the point of the reality stone? Uh, I don't know. I don't know what the point of the stones is really I mean that they would they said they represent fundamental parts of reality or something right control do they say control They each control on the sexual aspect of existence is the exact quote. I believe from long Makes you wonder what it means to destroy them Well, it's just Yeah, well apparently there was an interview where the russo said like are they destroyed means they're like reduced to Adams means exactly that the atoms still exist in the universe it's like, hmm Don't know about that one I think what I mean is like reality space. I understand that power I can do a bit of wiggle room. Maybe energy, you know energy stone might be a better way to describe it Reality though. That's like everything time is reality, you know Reality just seems to be the magic stone that seems to be how it works Like you can change matter Yeah Or I guess maybe that would be better than matter stone. You can change the properties of um of a of something It depends how scientific we want to get Really these stones and then of course the soul stone don't know how you account for that Um In this universe. Do dogs have souls? I'd like to think so if souls exist, which they probably don't But if they did Cats would uh would slot in Silverback gorillas for sure Uh, dare I asked who? Dare I asked who win tally tubbies or back guard against back yardigans? Can we do that? I don't know. I was gonna say I think I'm pretty sure we did it in a similar stream. We did the tiger based off Maybe maybe like something we talked about I think the backyard against though.  It'll defend it Maybe it smiles on everyone.  We don't know how it views the backyard against I believe this baby isn't it's like It is a very egalitarian To the show not necessarily individually the tally tubbies as far as I'm concerned It's all of the elements of the show versus the other show I don't know the backyard against their whole the the whole thing is that each one of their episodes They have their own adventures Where they can use the cyborgs powered by a sun god. I think they win Are they I guess they have a tale of it or is that mad? I think the backyard against are like older and they have the capacity to like speak And to enact plans and things of that nature. I think they're more competent And I think there's more of them Yeah, I just don't think these variables really match up to the sun god Yeah But all it does is it shows up for oh, it's never been angry on the show But if the tally tubbies lives would come under threat You would understand the raw To see that tv show That feels like a An episode that feels like flash kits would make that It does yeah Like like you would smash through and defeat the tally tubbies and feel like you've won and then You look like the camera Yeah, the baby is fucking angry with The gizmos lambent versus flood or necromorphs Uh, I think the flood win every time. Um, I think we've had this conversation before light the lambod Um, the lambent lose out of the three I know that out of the three for sure the necromorphs is an interesting one because the necromorphs are dead Whereas like an aspect with the flood is they assimilate living beings And the necromorphs presumably can infect they can yeah, they can infect the dead as well Like they can grab a corpse and turn it into a necromorph Which has to be I think that oh wait no because I think the necromorphs you must be dead to be a necromorph That's what the that's what the the the essentially the warrior forms are supposed to be doing they make the But the flood assimilate dead bodies too, so they both can do that And so I guess it's a question of what would what is more powerful a flood sport or just the necromorph as an entity Which is the marker, right? We talked about earlier The the necromorphs have a a mental component Uh that was the flood uh with the grave mind In terms of the grave mine grave mine seems like biological control versus psychic power or something from the marker Yeah, because the marker definitely Psychic component That's well, so that the idea is I might be um Well, I guess the thing is that they both assert a level of control and influence over the smaller um entities Like the the the flood the flood forms will do what the grave mine wants because the grave mind is the consciousness of the flood essentially And in the same sense the marker is the consciousness. So you wonder the local necromorph outbreak I guess we can't say but to me intuitively it feels like the marker would trump The flood Here's the big thing that I think tips it in the flood in the necromorphs favor What what is the peak form of the flood it would seem to be the grave mine the peak form of the necromorph is a brethren moon a living planet essentially yeah, the necromorphs have Shit tons of these enormous bosses as well, you know Well, it's just you think about the convergence as a thing that creates the brethren moon I don't know that there's anything that the flood has that is equivalent to that for as powerful as they are Maybe one to one in terms of a thing But like one necromorph versus one flood Well, I'm saying the problem with that is It's like let's say it depends on the form both of them. Yeah Well, yeah, because there's a difference between a flood carrier and a flood soldier and like a flood spore Necromorphs have like invincible boy, but they also have like foot soldiers Well, the invincible boy was a result of human tampering. Does he not count though? um I wonder if I want to count that if it's a result of human tampering I don't know because that was a that was like specifically like a human experiment like he's classified as a necromorph, isn't he? Sure, should we factor in? Hmm I'm just wondering should we factor in how easily district because To what if you destroy the marker that doesn't like end the necromorph outburst. Does it the necromorphs were still or does it? I don't I don't know because like I let's see I'm trying to think Because the way that works with the flood is if there is a single flood spore it can turn into an outbreak You have to destroy every single flood Everything in order to stop the flood Whereas with the necromorphs, it's like I guess you would need to kill all of them But what happens if you destroy a marker? What what happens in the And just being in the like if you're sure the markers have been destroyed in the games, right?  They take it to the sprawl and then you know the one they don't or i'm gonna mix them up So in the first dead space you end up dropping the planet chunk Oh, that's right right from the ishimura. Yeah, and it's and it I think it's confirmed It destroys the marker and then using the patterns in your head they always that's right They construct the marker. Yeah, that's right and Because of all the bodies in the sprawl it starts a convergence event. You stop it you stop it So in the third one You come across the original I think I have to play it again and make sure I just The way that wasn't dead space three is that you go to the planet tell valantis and you find out that there Was a convergence that was happening there, but they flash froze the whole planet and that stopped the convergence And then I think it starts up again right at the end There's a convergence like because of your interference and then and then you stop that Yeah, because the whole point is you have to like the the marker is essentially tricking you into turning off the mechanism that kept the planet frozen Yeah, and now once you turn it off it can start convergence and you have to stop it Man, they should like make more dead space games You know It really is cool. I'm I'm so I'm I'm simultaneously very excited and very concerned because Here about the remake it looks really awesome so far But they got to get the gameplay right so you will see january next year. I think So I'm uh, I love the first headspace It it's so I'm really excited to see I uh, I really like dead space one and but I like two a lot. Um Three I don't think I played that much of I just know like what happened. I just I just have the normie perspective one is one of my favorite games And then two is like mechanically felt better, but atmosphere was lost for me It felt like it was a lot less scary by trying to be more scary even uh, yeah I really love two. I really love two But yeah, it is the atmosphere wasn't it didn't hit me. It didn't really grip me though gameplay wise.   He's just having such a bad day communication relay It's maybe my um Maybe my boomerism speaking But like playing dead space and getting fully immersed and bio-shock and getting fully immersed like I don't know when the last time I did that was a brand new game where I like felt like Really really escapism style where you're just like you're in there, you know Red Dead Redemption 2 was like that for me. That was a really immersive experience I think for me it was probably Like to that super degree of I am in the game. It's probably Hellblade Interesting I remember though at times when I'd just be playing Red Dead Redemption 2 I'm like this this world is beautiful Like you just look out and it's like my god This place feels so real It almost kind of happened tonight while I was playing sea of thieves Because you you and three other people were on you're on this pirate ship And you have to in order to navigate you have you're depending on the size of your ship You have different amounts of sails. So we were on a galleon. We had three sails And so you raise and lower the sails but you also Trim the sails which is get them to face the wind because there is a wind in the game And you try to use that to help speed up your ship and whatnot And you also have the wheel that turns the ship And you have your compasses and you have a map but the map is below deck inside of a thing you look out on the map and it's It is streamlined enough to where you don't you don't feel like you're ever fighting the game or any of its mechanics but You're out there on the ocean The ocean works really well in terms of like liquid in a video game So you go up and down on the waves and you're steering the ship and it's a very big ship So it doesn't steer like one to one You turn the wheel and then it does the thing and then you balance it out And we're following this little quest line where we're following these Clues and we have to go to this place and then this place Then we use the clue to find out kind of where we need to go And we're like we multiple people were in the bottom of the or in the inside of the ship Over the map looking at the map and we can draw circles on the map and we're okay The clue said this and they were trying to go from here to here And then they said they went to this place So we need to search around this area to find the thing and it was like we were really we were doing the thing You know and it had you felt this real big connection to europe You're on a ship trying to complete a mission and you're you're Doing stuff and it didn't feel like video game. It felt like we were all Putting our heads together to make this happen and it gives you those kinds of feelings Which is similar but different but enough to where it's like wow like for there was a time where I was really immersed in doing this work Yeah, I wonder if it's a matter of me having been younger or if it's a matter of Me not playing enough games to Find the experiences like that Well the games that you described are games that I would even say like though those are Smallish spaces There's a there is a kind of narrative going on. There is a unified art style to things. They're very atmospheric um It's single player. So maybe you don't have other humans you're talking to to kind of distract you in a sense you're really kind of focused on the game as a game and maybe those things just combine because Dead space and bioshock are ones that I would say to this day are very immersive I love them I do love them. I absolutely love them. Love them. Love them Even like bioshock 2 I was like in I was in there Yeah, I mean so funnily enough bioshock 2 is one of those games that fits the same bill as a lot of uh Things I used to hate but in retrospect Don't anymore for a very specific reason, but still loved it.  They nailed it again and I remember the Minivas den the dlc was actually like incredibly solid as a mini story What about variable d? Um, what game is that a part of again? Infinite wait, that's infinite, right? Or am I mixing up your question? Yeah, no, I'm just I'm just saying like, you know, I heard it got great reviews like bioshock did did bioshock fans absolutely love burial at sea Because rapture you're a bioshock fan. Do you do you like burial at sea? Um, am I the only other played that out of the three of us? I have I think I won it, but I I haven't played it. You should uh, torch yourself one day and replay bioshock one and then play burial at sea Well, I want to replay bioshock. So yeah I did I did recently on on stream. I said recently like half a year ago But like man, it's just it just holds up.  I've played bioshock one. I an infinite. I haven't played uh, two Even the first bioshock it it ages so well because it's got that Tile to it and It's a cool game It lends itself like every genre of a media. I don't see how it didn't explode into a franchise Well, I think they still want to make it. I think the bioshock four is a thing that's happening Um, and sometimes soon it got tied up all over the place with like red tape and stuff I remember back when bioshock two was like coming out that there was theories about it being turned into a movie Um, yeah, I'm like potential. I just never coalesced It's so like I feel like it's it's just it's begging to be a movie or And that's the thing it's like well you get your wish right and it's like not in this era. Um, if it were made back then maybe I like that. It's now it's a curse. It's like you said you wanted it. No I don't know what it is. Like we're just in this weird world.  I was trying to explain this to a Someone last night I can't remember but it's just someone who wasn't familiar with halo I was like, I think it was drinker. I think because he's he's he's out of the loop on it And I was like they've got their own like tlj moment happening right now Well, I think uh, the funny thing is that peter jackson back in 2007 Or I think it was peter jackson producing a new blonkamp directing There was gonna be a halo project and it just never materialized I guarantee you that one would have been leagues ahead of this shit I absolutely I think was uh, the short that they made around 2007. It was really cool considering it had no budget Um, I think I think what's really stark is I don't know Mola may not remember it ranks. Do you remember you you probably remember the deliver hope one But do you remember the odst commercial? Uh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's two minutes long and it's got it's just superior storytelling to the show Absolutely It's down to the little touches like the fact that the odst captain who we've been following from like When he was a teenager through the boot camp and then fighting that he carries around an odst flag in his armor Just to make sure that whenever an odst dies, they can at least have that honor Of like having the the flag draped across their grave and that he carries out around It's like this storytelling man for a fucking commercial Like with way less money and you've achieved something way more impressive narratively And technically as well. I think that it's a way more immersive like It's it's a really gritty sort of action. It's the same we deliver hope. It's like again storytelling on a small scale um And it's just crazy that commercials 10 years ago with less money have achieved more than a 100 dollar production I wish the honeymoon phase would just be Overfaster with all of these things like I I genuinely think that's what's happening with dr. Strange too Give it time and people will talk more about the fact that vision wasn't mentioned at all in this film that It's disjointed the pacing is horrendous that like dr. Strange doesn't actually make any real decisions himself in this film But all these all these things that are more intuitively frustrating will get to the audience more Eventually and I guess it's like So Once that kind of The allure and the awe of all the visuals goes away And it's not new and fresh in their minds anymore and they could be dare I say a bit more objective about it Yeah, I think so I think it happened with no way home People started to turn on that movie eventually when when it first came out. I've already loved it Give it time. It was weird. Uh, but it wasn't surprising. It's just like there it is Batman has survived though It seems like the batman has uh Thus far managed to get through. I've seen some attempts at viral tweets with ago Uh, unfortunately the batman was mid and then people will be like saying something's mid on twitter means you're saying it's bad Um, pretty much at this point. I think anyway But yeah, uh, there I think even jack sane put out a tweet saying that he thought batman was fine And uh, oh boy. Okay. People are spending on it. I guess Well, I think that was the first he'd seen even seen of it.  The turn around it's like Who cares about the previous stepping stone? We stood on that earlier. It's not the thing we're standing on now Yeah Yeah, uh, once Thor love and thunder rolls around people will be like, I hope this one does blah, blah, blah, blah Because doctor strange 2 didn't and someone else is like, yeah, doctor strange 2 Wasn't that great?  No Finally can we just skip to that phase kind of just be day one, please Uh, hi rags and morris not too long ago. Hi, you mentioned time traveling dragons wouldn't work Time traveling dragons wouldn't work In what scenario I was gonna say that doesn't sound like something we would say I would need more information to say if it would be fair I consider it more likely for us to have said time travel doesn't work not time traveling dragons don't work, but uh Oh, yeah, I've completely ignored like the dragon part. I don't see what it is about Dragons, especially something that's so dragons can be anything immediate essentially, but um, Yeah, don't see why we would have said that and they followed with saying It must have been a specific context Rain of fire starring christian bale, matthew mcconnor, hey great writing visuals. Thanks. So my friend that's not about time traveling dragons that's about dragons that ruled the earth and then Lumbered, you know thousands of years until we dug too deep and woke them up. That's not time travel Yeah, did they dude that's not a time traveling movie um, but uh I remember liking it a bunch we could do that for you if that movie is at some point Yeah, so it's a really cool little gem of a film that you wouldn't expect to have existed and they um When it came out the special effects of the dragons is pretty cool A lot of practical stuff as well An important consideration between the flood and necromorph is the protagonist is it clogs a regular human? The master chief is a super soldier The problem is that it's it's it's a little bit complicated because like chief's capacity to single-handedly Stop the the the flood kind of hinges on his access to equipment um And also the militaries of uh earth gov also could not stop the necromorphs Well, so I guess to put it into perspective the first flood outbreak you need to blow up the pillar of autumn So he needs a ship that he can blow up to stop them Um, I also want to point out like if you've got the marker on top of necromorph Your ship is fucked That's what I was just about to add exactly It's almost like you can't defeat the necromorph like master chief couldn't defeat the necromorphs because master chiefs just is a human He would fall prey to the influence of the marker True true It's a matter of just not getting infected more so than That's part of mine It's like whenever you make a dare I Be insulting and call this like an archetype of zombies. Um Don't mean to of course. There's many variables involved, but uh One of the problems you have and this is this is something that we will always bring up because I feel it's necessary is When you do your slow boys and all they can infect you with is their bite It's like I don't believe that we would have lost to these boys unless you give me another variable And so you have to give another variable and that's what I'm saying like a lot of stuff will just be like Like there was there was a pandemic it killed 95 percent of humans and then reanimated them. It's like, okay That's yeah, it happens all at once the military A lot of people got sick very quickly. Um, yeah Because I believe that in the lore of the last of us the um court of seps was in food It was a bunch of food a lot of people got infected very early And that's why necromorphs if if we were to understand is one necromorph And then he has to kill you and then you become a necromorphs like I don't know how well that's gonna spread But when you add the marker and the nature of the different ranks, it's like, oh, okay. I get it. I get it now one One aspect of dead space that I think is kind of like Pretty shaky is how one necromorph could take over the entirety of the military ship that shows up um Because it's one necromorph that pops out of a military vessel. It was called like the I forget what it's called but the um Um The the distress beacon that the ishimura sent out was picked up by a military ship full of like soldiers with You know military stuff and apparently one necromorph is able to ruin the entire ship I don't buy that really um So It's hard to really say but if you had like if the ishimura was a massive military base essentially in space It would be one of those like I don't know. Yeah, I was gonna do it but it's the marker aspect that Yeah, it is the because the they Isaac had to eject a necromorph that was inside of an escape pod When he's when he's by the bridge and that pod is picked up By the ship that is responding to the distress signal. They open it up the necromorph jumps out and apparently that Kills everyone on the ship and they all get Boo the boo the scoop boogie fight And I'm just always been like, uh, it's I don't know. I just you know, that's fine. Yeah But yeah, it's if you take away the marker aspect then I think the flood definitely win But the marker is pretty central to the whole I don't think you can remember the marker from the necromorphs. Yeah, it was just like zombie If it's just space zombie fight or space zombie fight, I think the necromorphs would win In terms of like one-on-one Yes, but floods can yeah flood People who can have guns and then they can use guns. Yeah. Yes. They they they Have like rudimentary basic sort of knowledge of whoever they kind of infect That would be a big thing to add is like we've seen that the flood can like fly ships That's true. They can get around like the flood the flood have a capacity to interact with technology And so when you add a grave mine into the mix particularly they could say I want this ship To go to this specific place across the galaxy, which is in Halo 3 Yes, the flood got to earth because they hijacked like a covenant ship through slip space and then came to earth and Yeah, that nearly destroyed everything I can't wait to see what they do to the flood in halo show It's gonna be awful If they involve that in the promotion of stuff people will go nuts and say like this is so They'll forget don't forget And I bet you the grave mine will be a human.  It absolutely will be Like she was a sexy lady in the shadow of war Why did you do that? Just haven't be a surprise.  Which by the way isn't isn't off the cards.  It's like the flood And then season three will be the Prometheans because everybody there's there's some people who like the Prometheans not many but some That'll average them for sure if they get to the season where they can do that, but who knows When you move on to the lego games you got on steam if you want to play in window mode use a program called dx Wnd the older games don't support it. I actually have to use that for a lego indiana jones Um annoying but yeah Uh cruella is a retelling of hitler's life changed my mind I think there are significant differences. Also hitler's parents probably weren't killed by dalmatians as far as I know or at least his mom They were killed by jews Jewish dalmatians Yeah, that's that's what got it all started One punch man is superman depressed and bored Kind of wow That broad Sure Catching up from approximately two hours ago screw the reaction streamers They won't learn unless you hit them in the in the pocketbook stop bleeding stop the bleeding now I again, I would prefer not to uh Go to that length it would it would have to You know like if if a reactor was just taking each of our three channel mainline videos And they put them on whenever they go out to have food with friends They just play them in full and uh, they they don't show titles They don't do any links and you even have people in champion like whose channel is this and when someone suggests who it is The mods ban it So if that was happening and happened for a while, I think the three of us would be like I don't know that we have any other choice like At that point I would yeah Well, that's pretty extreme And I think that again we wouldn't need to do that because we would just pointed out it's happening And I think it would get some traction people would be like wow, that's fucking terrible and it's like yeah, it is Yeah springy state review wyoming Um wyoming is yellow stones in wyoming, right? Is that your review? I'm just asking yellowstone is in wyoming, isn't it that's that's neat Otherwise, I don't know anything about wyoming Wait, yeah, it's it's uh, it's in it's on Uh, yes, it's in it's in wyoming and montana, right? It kind of goes a little bit into montana Maybe I'm not sure. I'm not sure This is a I'm sure we're gonna do with this one because I don't remember anymore But it says name 10 things wrong with the tomorrow war Oh god Um time travel mechanics don't make sense. That's one Time travel number one the military strategies and I'm going to break this down in multiple levels number one Sending people into the future Who have no military training and giving them a weak absurd that's going to be two number three Um the people in the future somehow even being able to be beaten by these enemies despite having access to air superiority a whole bunch of military equipment The final battle sequence doesn't make sense on multiple levels They get the cure back. Nobody wants to listen to them to like use it. No government is interested for some reason Um the fact that's not even pivotal to the victory It doesn't even mean anything. They just blow it up anyway. So like this is a military and the military upon learning the source of the Uh, the thing that is going to destroy the world. They will not lend any support whatsoever To going to find out where it is before it happens Yeah, there is the yeah the small arms don't make any sense based on the foe that you're fighting I have no idea why you have short little carbines like that All right, we're trying to extract the queen that whole sequence was pretty dumb Yeah, with the chains and weird shit when they should just go. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah So we could keep going, but I think that at that point we've already sort of highlighted Several things wrong with that film. They'll get an e-fat movies on it one day that can uh They really will We didn't e-fat on it. Yeah awful movie Yeah As someone who's been to sf many times and grew up in the bay area, I can assure you fringy It's very dirty outside of tourist traps and the rich areas I'm not sure why that would have come up. I guess it would be that uh About san francisco as being like a nice place to visit or live in I think um, I think what interesting to me is when you look at an image of because a lot of people think San Francisco is like the stuff that you see in movies, you know Like all of those tight sort of like houses and the narrow streets and their hills Most of san francisco is suburbs just like everywhere else in america Like so like whatever it is that you imagine as being it is like you're paying a lot more for something that you could find Everywhere in america to some extent um, yeah San francisco is expensive but as for how clean it is. I couldn't say I never been there Um, hey, that's just Oh, isn't it like the the touristy areas of the pots that are well maintained, but elsewhere. It's a different story Yeah, yeah Hey, I just wanted to say that I loved your video breaking down the sexual misconduct charges against angry joe Wow, I mean if you helped out way shape a form with Any craziness relates to stuff like that and good stuff. I don't think I saw that video Uh, what is the future of batwoman when there is no more jacob? Uh, it's not as good as that much Yeah, I think get rid of him so terribly too. Yeah It's basically suffering in prison In a very unfair way that just I hate it It was very sad to watch We miss him. Um Mola thoughts on rain of fire. Hey someone else asking That's the real neat movie that You'd watch it today and be like how did this even exist?  Hey, um, oh, actually, I think it's in england. Um The mining operation wakes up an ancient dragon and then that dragon wakes up all dragons Or across earth they all break out and they annihilate humans basically Um, and we're talking like there are thousands of these things um and They live I think that the way that it works is like they need things to burn To to live it's kind of strange their biology. Um The idea is of course that they they go back to sleep once everything's burnt until everything's ready to be burnt again Um, and we follow christian bale Who's like a survivor in his old castle? who's people in civilization and Matthew McConaughey is like a Warhawk type who's trying to figure out how to destroy the dragons forever and they clash Um I remember being a fun movie. I can't say how well written it is Yeah, maybe we'll find out one day More uh, oh just jumped on to heal versus baby gate. Hi rags Hi All right Hello long man and friends. Hope you're all having a great day. Do any of you enjoy cooking? And if so, what are you best at making out? Um, I don't hate it. I don't mind cooking at all. I don't have a lot of skill. What I make is pretty um Is pretty is pretty simple stuff Like just grilling vegetables and cooking meat stuff like that nothing No, nothing particularly impressive. No, I was Yeah, I don't know. I don't do anything special with cooking likewise um As for what are you best at making I'd be like, I don't know I've never thought of myself as being really good at making a particular thing Uh, I like cooking pork I don't know. It seems to be So much for the pig lover. I do like pigs, but I also like the meat that is within them It's just another thing about pigs that I like is their taste. What can I say? Yeah There are very as someone would say a magical creature wonderful magical And what is everyone's favorite food my recipe book must grow Favorite food. Oh man, I don't know. I love seafood and just animals. My stock answer is pizza Pizza's a pizza's a good stock answer. Pizza's good. I really like honey chicken. I've always really liked honey chicken Lobster and Like good seared scallops or just I think I'm always gonna be able to like a base food like a Yeah, salmon or uh, just chicken. I don't know. It's hard to I'm easy to please Yeah Hollow Knight is also a fungus zombie game. Oh, I guess in a sense you could say that a little bit Bring it when max and chad inviting you on cold ones. Don't you live right next door in that one town in australia? I is that a podcast I'm guessing. Yeah Um, and they both australian. Yeah, well, it's an australian podcast. All right, I see right I'm sure you'll be on there one day Um, have you guys finished Loki Mola? You said last episode of WandaVision is the worst MCU content Is is Loki worse than WandaVision? Loki's last episode has zero sense Uh Show makes no sense. That's just what an outdated super chat, you know, it's like yes, Loki is worse than WandaVision But it doesn't stop there. So are the things But yeah, yeah, uh to try and develop Loki's morals They did it on the expense of what makes Loki great good example is harlene and dc's injustice. That's how to do it They just speed ran it because they didn't care Yeah, they got they wanted to get that shit over fast and you could tell you Um, you get to replay soma for the first time, but you get told it's not a horror game by joseph anderson first thoughts I'd be like this game was insanely good. Why did you lie to me?  Well Bring it and play it yet. So Let's just say there are sequences in that game Uh, where my fear factor was getting cranked pretty hardcore because I I treated the game Do you know what I mean when I say this right like treated the game with respect in that?  I'd be like, yeah, totally. It's not it's not horror at all Yeah, I just don't know how a video game like reviewer could possibly say it isn't horror like it baffles me Whoa, if it doesn't scare you, it's not horror in the same way that story doesn't thrill you It's not a thriller a story doesn't make you laugh. It's not a comedy. Yeah What if it makes you feel nothing? What is it? What if you feel no dramatic tension, then there's it's not a drama It becomes a Genreless What if you feel that it's not animated it's not animated I'm willing to agree that there is an arbitrary nature to genre of course, but at the same time Like oh this one.  It does not mean it's not a comedy now It's the same thing as art when people like this is so bad. It's not art and it's like no, that's you know It is all it's just shit Yeah, that's another thing by the way, I wouldn't It wouldn't matter if if I went into like if you guys recommended soma for ages, but simultaneously said, uh, it's not a horror game It would be fine. And then I'd play it and be like, I don't know. I think it's a horror game Like it me knowing it's hard when going in doesn't Uh make it better or worse Especially because generally those games will tell you pretty darn quick if they're horror or not Yeah, uh, I can't remember if they do it with soma. I think they might but with dr. Descent they're like, please turn all of your lights off. Please, you know Balance your yeah rounds accordingly.  It's like, yeah, that's probably a good idea Thank you for telling me if you if you All right, I'll I'll do what you're telling me to do. All right. All right Give it to me. Hey guys the last Jedi was the first and only movie That's left me in the theater and emotionally numb and as empty as the end credits rolled Okay, uh, what movies have done this to you high rags also Hello Emotionally, so he said emotionally numb. I usually get angry with films if I really hate them I'm trying to think emotionally numb when the credits roll And what I mean is I usually get angry with the ones I don't like. I was him happy with the ones I do like I don't know that I ever feel numb Like it's a like completely apathetic emotionally like I just don't feel anything like I'm numb I guess uh probably tons of stuff leave me emotionally numb Especially if I could tell the movies trying it wants me to feel a certain way, but I'm just like I just don't feel it especially when I know What it is trying to make me feel specifically like I know what you're doing here. This is transparent I just I know what you're trying to get me to do and it's just not working But um most of the time I'm feeling something of some kind so I haven't got any answers for anyone Even the last Jedi it was a weird feeling, but it wasn't numb I don't yeah, it's not a common feeling I would say Always when I'm working high rags. Hi Morley you're gay Right There's nothing wrong with that I see you guys streaming at lunchtime and you're all still at it eight hours later. These are the masters of long We are we are last years of long Hey, Morley you can block bots by adding certain keywords to your blacklist helps for chat bots high rags Hi, those are recent ones though. They keep changing everything about their naming and what they say, but they're Unified in their annoyance Yes, um Yeah, and uh that does it For this section of the super chat ketchup I forget one number of the episode it was on but it'll be probably labeled when you're listening to this, so Thank you all very much listening Absolutely, thanks for stopping by we've wrapped up our our tiger bear art. Yes We'll see you in the next one everybody Goodbye