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Hello everybody! This video will tell you how to identify and fix errors in the operating system of your computer. You may need to do it if you encounter freezes or failures, sudden restarts, or blue screens of desk. The first thing you should do to eliminate such problems is to find more detailed information on the errors. This can help identify the problem. The tools described in this video can help to find the program, driver or device which cause problems or errors, fix them, or help you identify the problem. First of all, let's have a look at a Windows Integrated Tool – Reliability Monitor. To start it, open Control Panel, System and Security, Security and Maintenance. Open the Maintenance menu, select View Reliability History. The first thing you can see in the Reliability Monitor window is a graph with columns which represent days or weeks. This graph visually shows you changes in the system reliability. In each of the columns, you can see different icons which represent information events, warnings or critical events. To the right of the graph, categories of messages are shown – Application Failures, Windows Failures, Miscellaneous Failures, Warnings and Information. All information on reliability will also be shown in the window below when you click on a specific day on the graph. By right-clicking on a problem, a menu appears where you can select Check for a solution or View solution. If there is no solution to an event, such line in the menu will be inactive. Under the Reliability Monitor window, you can click on the link Check for solutions to all problems. This shows that in 90% of the cases when users want to check for solutions, they see a message – no new solutions found. However, if there is a solution to the problem event or error, the system will fix them. After that, the reliability graph will be leveled and the system will become more stable. To view full description of an event in the Monitor, double-click on the event. As a result, the window with complete interpretation of the error will appear. It shows the name of the fault in application and the time when it was started, its identifier and location, etc. The Reliability Monitor is a convenient and informative tool with a graphical interface. However, it only shows systematized information on the operating system events. Advanced users can view all events, information and errors by using another integrated tool – Event Viewer. To start it, open Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer. You can find a lot of information there on all systems, security and application events. However, in this case, we are interested in computer failures. To view them, you should go to the folder Windows Logs – System. As you can see, all events are arranged chronologically and there are sources event ID or error ID if it is a critical error, and category are shown. When you encounter a sudden restart or a blue screen of death, you can find the cause of the problem here. For example, an error in the System Log can give you the information on what device driver caused the failure to help you take further action and fix the problem. Just find the error that took place at the time when the computer restarted, froze or showed a blue screen of death, because such error will be marked as critical. Double-clicking on the information, error or warning will generate a detailed report which you can use to decide if this error requires more attention. Sometimes, errors are a usual result of work of an application which doesn't provide Windows with event IDs for its status messages. As a result, an ordinary message like license verification may be recognized as an error because the system cannot find an ID description corresponding to such event. This tool cannot fix errors – it can only help you view your events. However, if you see that an error is critical and should be fixed, try to find and fix it with a reliability monitor as I have shown you before. Otherwise, you can use a search engine to find the event on the Internet by its description and ID and fix it in one of the recommended ways. For example, here is an error. Source – disk. Double-click on it. In the window that opens, you can see the description. This device has a bad block, event ID 7. Copy the error description, open your browser and insert the information into the search field. Go to one of the suggested websites to find possible ways to fix the error and solve your problem. That is all for now. If you found this video useful, click the Like button below and subscribe to our channel to see more. Thank you for watching. Good luck.


Well, hello everybody. Thank you for coming to KBE Insider and it seems like my camera has a little bit of a shake to it today but I'm Langdon White and I am formerly from Red Hat and I am currently now a faculty member at the at Boston University in the Computing and Data Sciences faculty where I teach data science stuff and I teach computing stuff Practicum and various other things We also have Josh Berkus who is co-hosting with me today and Are you there Josh? Howdy seems we have no video Yes, is video working? It tells me it's working, but I don't think we're turned on I think But we can do what I just keep running and we'll figure out how to get our pretty faces on the screen in a minute Anyway, I'm Josh Berkus. I work for Red Hat's open-source practice office and I am the Kubernetes person in our open-source practice office Making sure that Red Hat is doing a good job in contributing to Kubernetes and many related projects And As such I've actually talked to our guest today Liz Rice many times In the CNCF Awesome. Thanks Josh. And so yeah, we'd like to welcome Liz Rice Who is I've got a whole host of titles but maybe you could introduce yourself with a little bit of the teaser and Hopefully we'll get video soon kind of you know, otherwise, it's gonna turn into a podcast or what's what Twitter's new thing? Spaces is that what it's called? I Listen to one of the other day. It was actually pretty good on Developer evangelism or we don't call it that anymore. We call it developer advocacy. That's it. So Liz. Yeah, tell us a little about yourself Hi. Yeah, thanks for having me. Um, yeah, I don't know what's happening without the video But I guess we'll we'll work around it. I'll pretend that it's a podcast. Yeah Yes, so I'm speaking from North London Where I've been working at home for the last I can't remember how many years I'm now the chief open-source officer with ISO valent who are the company that originally created the psyllium project and I am Currently the chair of the technical oversight committee for the CNCF the cloud native computing foundation. So hi Awesome. Yeah, that's really cool Why don't we kind of start maybe with tell us a little bit about the psyllium project I think and maybe with a little bit of background and ebpf because I think that's Something that not a lot of people will have experience with especially Given that you have to have a very recent kernel relatively speaking To to get ebpf would that make a good place to start? Yeah, sure. So I think actually it's a very Timely question because I mean I've been Interested in ebpf for well, I think I first saw Thomas graph presenting on it at I don't know 2017 2018 and I thought well, that's really cool But clearly it needs a new kernel and none of us have those yet and you know, this is gonna take a while and Fast-forward to you know 2022 now apparently I can't remember to write 2022 or not and the Kernel support for ebpf has become much much more widespread the Kernels that almost everyone is using in production these days now support enough ebpf functionality that we can do useful things with it and like running psyllium and other ebpf projects so That's probably a Really really core reason why over the last let's say six months or so maybe a year You'll have seen ebpf just kind of explode in popularity because we can Just for a little bit of background so ebpf is kind of like a sandboxing tack for various functionality in the kernel And why do people care? Well because that way you can kind of host You know quote-unquote dangerous things right without having to worry about you know giving them kernel access except not giving them kernel access And so I think psyllium though is specifically in the kind of the networking space, right? Yeah, yeah, I'll expand a little bit about ebpf as a technology So what it lets you do is run custom programs in the kernel within the kernel So the sandboxing acts aspect ensures that those programs are safe to run for example That if you're going to access memory, it's memory that belongs to the process that's currently sort of involved or that you can't Crash you have to check that pointers aren't null before you de-reference them because you would be a really dangerous thing to Why if you crash the kernel you your machine is gone. It's died and So ebpf Sandboxing or the verification process makes sure that These programs are safe to run, but you can actually use it to customize the way the kernel behaves With you know restrictions on what you can and can't do with that. It's it's pretty complicated, but you can actually hook into for example any Entry or exit point to any function in the kernel or in user space You can hook into any trace points and for psyllium particularly You can hook into Various points in the networking stack So psyllium is it's best known as being a kubernetes CNI a kubernetes networking plug-in You can use it outside of the kubernetes context as well but what it allows us to do is create Networking endpoints for kubernetes pods and connect them together in a really really efficient way People quite often talk about how we can bypass IP tables. We can bypass a whole load of unnecessary networking functionality essentially in the kernel by Kind of hooking directly from pods to networking interface or from pod to pod Gotcha. Yeah, that's that's pretty cool I mean, I think one of the things that I was really interested to learn. I guess I was really surprised to learn Year or two ago is like how root has kind of been broken apart actually into like a bunch of different functions and So that's You know, it's kind of in the same vein You know, it's like, you know, it's not just a superpower user kind of anymore And you know and so you can now actually isolate, you know various processes from each other And that has a lot of ramifications for you know things like kubernetes You know and other even even virtual machines or whatever it allows you to Kind of give certain kinds of access but not carte blanche to Processes that you may or may not trust or kind of at least in my experience, right? I've written enough bugs in my life that you know, I don't even trust my own stuff, right? I'd like to be able to isolate it from each other So yeah, that's pretty cool. I think that that tech is is getting really interesting I'm saying in one of my roles I'm actually one of the reviewers for submissions to kubcon And kubcon Europe is coming up and I'll say we certainly have quite a few talk submitters who Think ebpf is what we should all be paying attention to The a lot of a lot of submissions with core, you know sort of either ebpf or I did this thing with ebpf Ideas behind them The ones that are I did this thing with ebpf tend to get rated higher Since I think at least within the kubcon community. We kind of know what it is Yeah, even even like, you know, it's a it's a much smaller conference, right? But I remember seeing stuff like this for devconf which is kind of the technical red hat conferences that we do that are Kind of very open source oriented, but even there we saw ebpf stuff kind of landing So I think you know, I think you're right on I think there's a lot going on With that tech and you know being this being the kind of insider show You know, it's it'd be a good idea if you're not already kind of tuned into what's going on in that community It'd probably a good idea to start paying attention to it Because it really does seem to be the wave of what we want to be doing You know for for lots of different kinds of functionality, you know, Celia miss is one exemplar but not necessarily alone or definitely not alone, I guess Well, since since we have the container security expert Here on on the broadcast with us the You know, I want to go straight into actually kind of the security questions, which is okay if we You know say project to the near future where we've kind of completed at least the current planned ebpf feature set The And people using ebpf plus Kubernetes plus, you know Container runtime, etc How close is that to the level of protection? We would expect out of a virtual machine platform in terms of isolation of processes So I Think all the time we're talking about Containers we have to be very aware that we're we're sharing a kernel all the containers running on a given host have one kernel and that kernel has visibility and access into Everything all of the processes running in all of those containers on that host now. This is where ebpf becomes really powerful because if you run an ebpf program in the kernel it has visibility and Potentially the ability to change behavior for every single process on that machine and that includes every single container in every single pod so, you know, there's a lot of power here and you know You do have to treat that power with respect. You have to treat ebpf programs the way you would treat anything else that you would run essentially as root But we can use those that We can use ebpf to create Stronger Let's say security profiles. I don't really want to say security boundary, but We can lock down more efficiently what any given application can do and this is something that I think people have been talking about for quite a long time and the idea that if you have a an application and it's only supposed to Contact certain network endpoints and it's only supposed to Read certain files, you know, maybe it isn't ever supposed to contact a payment gateway There are all sorts of things we can do with networking policy to limit what Any given containerized applicator well any given pod can Can do in terms of network activity But with ebpf we can take that even further because we've got this very very granular Visibility into what's happening So we're going to be able to say not just okay, you know, this pods has you know, it's trying to Contact this particular IP address we can say it's actually trying to contact this particular domain name and the process that Initiated this request was this given executable name. It was started at this time Here's the whole process and the tree of that Connect request for example and That's going to allow us to be very very specific about what What's permitted in our system? So for example, you know, how often do we really need to run curl in a production environment? Seems like it When when I'm doing things correctly So, you know, let's let's assume we're not ssh'ing into our pods and running curl it would be pretty cool if we were able to write some Network or some security profiles that say We don't expect you to run that curl executable or if we do we only expect it to be run to Access this particular endpoint from which this particular Application, you know has to download some information We can be very very specific That's the power and the promise of ebpf from a security point of view The fun bit is going to be creating all the correct profiles and making it easy to get those profiles, right? Yeah, exactly the you know, that's always it's always the challenge I I also like to bring up, you know, I read a lot of spy novels and You know in talking about security layers, right, you know, so in the tech world, you know I think most people will even have a You know kind of glancing understanding of security recognize that, you know, having layers of security is usually The right answer, right? But that's also true if you're you know a spy and you're trying to you know Break into someplace or whatever and so I think it's it's also really interesting, right because it's it's it's adding another kind of opportunity For a layer of security, but you know to your point, right? It does it does require us to really think about the security profiles and and not only Not only making them work correctly, but then also making them easy to develop and all that kind of thing, right? I mean, I think the se linux adoption went way up as soon as you know They started to have nice tools that could tell you how to how to fix what's broken because your Se linux profile is blocking something, right? But now you can get really good information about you know, why is being blocked? You know, is it intentional and here's an easy way to to change it if That is something you do want to be able to do for whatever reason, you know Sometimes you do want to be able to call curl for example So I think we would like to move on to maybe talking about some CNCF stuff However in an attempt to turn this from a podcast into a twitch stream, I think we're gonna try to restart the stream so Please bear with us for a few minutes while we you know, ask restream to restart and I'm also gonna throw this in the chat because of the delay on the audio but Does that make sense? Yep, we are we are restarting everybody in an attempt to get video exactly, okay


Brought to you by Penguin Sylvester, or the Wicked Uncle, by Giorgette Hayer Read by Matt Addis Chapter 1 Sylvester stood in the window of his breakfast parlour, leaning his hands on the ledge and gazing out upon a fair prospect. No view of the ornamental water could be obtained from this, the east front of chance, but the undulations of a lawn shaved all summer by sidemen were broken by a cedar, and beyond the lawn the stems of beech trees, outliers of the home wood, shimmered in wintry sunlight. They still held their lure for Sylvester, though they beckoned him now to his covets rather than to a land where every thicket concealed a dragon, and false knights came pricking down the rides. He and Harry, his twin, had slain the dragons, and ridden great wallops at the knights. There were none left now, and Harry had been dead for almost four years. But there were pheasants to tempt Sylvester forth, and they did tempt him. For a succession of black frosts had made the ground iron hard, robbing him of two hunting days, and a blusterous north wind would not have invited the most ardent of sportsmen to take a gun out. It was still very cold, but the wind had dropped and the sun shone, and what a bore it was that he should have decided that this day, out of all the inclement ones that had preceded it, should be devoted to business. He could change his mind, of course, telling his butler to inform the various persons now awaiting his pleasure that he would see them on the following day. His agent-in-chief and his man of business had come all the way from London to attend upon him, but it did not occur to Sylvester that they could find any cause for complaint in being kept kicking their heels. They were in his employ, and had no other concern and to serve his interests. They would accept his change of mind as the Caprice to be expected from a noble and wealthy master. But Sylvester was not capricious, and he had no intention of succumbing to temptation. Caprice bred bad servants, and where the management of vast estates was concerned, good service was essential. Sylvester had only just entered his twenty-eighth year, but he had succeeded to his huge inheritance when he was nineteen. And whatever follies and extravagances he had committed, they had never led him to treat that inheritance as his plaything, or to evade the least one of its responsibilities. He had been born to a great position, reared to fill it in a manner worthy of a long line of distinguished forebears, and as little as he questioned his right to command the obedience of all the persons whose names were inscribed on his staggering payroll, did he question the inescapability of the duties which had been laid on his shoulders. Had he been asked if he enjoyed his consequence, he would have replied truthfully that he never thought of it. But he would certainly have disliked very much to have had it suddenly removed. No one was in the least likely to ask him such a question, of course. He was generally considered to be a singularly fortunate young man, endowed with rank, wealth, and elegance. No bad fairy had attended his christening to leaven his luck with the gift of a hunchback or a hair-lip. Though not above medium height, he was well proportioned, with good shoulders, a pair of shapely legs, and a countenance sufficiently pleasing to make the epithet handsome, frequently bestowed on it, not altogether ridiculous. In a lesser man the oddity of eyes set with the suspicion of a slant under flying black brows might have been accounted a blemish. In the Duke of Salford they were naturally held to lend distinction.  It was just as though the brows had been added with a paintbrush, drawn in a sleek line upwards towards the temples. In the Duchess this peculiarity was charming. In Sylvester it was less attractive. It gave him when he was vexed and the upward trend was exaggerated by a frown, a slight look of a satyr. He was about to turn away from the window, when his attention was caught by a small sking. Sample complete. Ready to continue?


So one of the major issues that we always run into with security is this idea of convenience as I continue to add Security kind of features I run it to the issue of you know How convenient it is think about the TSA now that we've added that in you know security the convenience of Going and taking a flight is a little lower and some people get in a little annoyed with it So that's where that comes into play the same thing actually happens when we talk about passwords If you think about it keep your community college. We make you change your password every 90 days It's really annoying, but it's to increase security and the reason is we don't want someone to be able to guess your password There's actually this thing known as a brute force attack where they try every possible combination Well, guess what if we make you change it every 90 days It makes it a little harder for that brute force attack to happen Well, we also have to think about passwords in the regard of making sure that they're not bad passwords For example, how many of you guys are a violator of one of these? You know, I know maybe you're not doing it 100% like that But how many of you guys, you know use that somewhere in another website? That's a big deal because if we think about the target X Story, I told you guys a second ago. They were using default passwords now Default means that everyone knows what it is The problem is obviously some people change it and they don't change it very well These are actually Back when twitter got hacked way back in the day These were some of the ones that were released and You know malicious hackers will use them break into accounts and whatnot But mathematicians and statisticians will actually look at these as well And this is actually what they were able to point out is these are some of the most Commonly used passwords that have been released to the internet So for example, how many of you guys For your cake for your community college account use an uppercase for the first character in your password I know i'm a violator of that But guess what that makes it a little easier to guess how many of you guys have a number at the very end Again makes me very easy to guess and we continue to look at that until we get into this idea of It's known as intro b. It's a big scientific word, but I'm able to take something very complex like your password and break it down into those common traits that people do So suddenly that capital letter. Well, that just reduced how many possible characters it could be Same kind of thing if you have a number at the very end of it I can guess it again I can know that there's only 10 possible characters that you're going to have at the very end of your password So one of the options you can do is instead of trying to make these things super complex like changing your o to a zero Which hackers know that you will do Introduce something like spaces. Uh, this is a nice little xkd kcd comic But what it does is it looks at something like trabodar ampersand 3 Over complex is the idea of a password Well, what about spaces? Something like correct horse battery staple It seems very easy to do. In fact I'm gonna actually do something. I'm gonna I'm gonna Do something crazy. I'm gonna give you my password. Well, not to keep for your community college But I'm gonna give you the password to my wi-fi router Let's take a look at that men in tight tight tights. It's a throwback to my favorite movie. Mel Brooks is robin hood men in tights It's a wonderful comedy if you have not taken a look at it Get off your lazy keysters and go find it via the red box or the Netflix or even your local library. It should be there But let's take a look at this. Well, this is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 20 20 30 The water actually six 27 Possible characters including spaces. That's actually really powerful and it's a very easy to remember password I know what it is at all times That actually becomes a very important thing because when we're trying to make a good password It really actually matters about length How long your password is versus how complex it is if it's long That makes it go up exponentially. How more complicated it is some other recommendations are avoid using sequences like 1 2 3 or x y z and Avoid dictionary words the reason why is because well, guess what? The same reason that these are very common is because rocky princess princess. That's a very easy to guess word Hackers aren't going to use something like a brute force processor Uh brute force attack because it just takes too long statistically. It takes too long What they're going to do is they're going to go through what they call a dictionary attack And that dictionary attack is going to look at all the common words that You know are in a dictionary and guess what they might be able to guess it So is yours a very common word and you're like, oh no I have a number at the end of mine Guess what easily guessable. So we have to be a little careful with these kind of things


All right, what's up internet? Going to do something a bit different today. Pupunta tayo sa isang supplier. Actually, pag-order sa supplier, parang order lang yan sa shop din. Mag-viber ka, sabihin mo ito yung gusto mo, ito yung amount, and then you transfer money. So it's very similar to how some people order from us. But the supplier we're visiting today, first time ko, Kadil, and wala silang delivery service outside sila nung Manila, tapos parang overseas sila. Wala pa masyado silang contacts dito. Medyo anon yung brand. Pero yung maganda sa kanila, lifetime daw yung warranty, nito yung mga components nila. Since unknown, medyo malayo siya. Siyempre, napapaisip ako na legit ba tong supplier. Baka may masamapa mangyari sa akin. Worth it ba to para lang okay yung component sa shop. But anyway, we're going. I'm also curious. And then, you know, I'm bringing you along for the ride. Ang video na to ay handog ni CDKoffers.com. Marami kang mahanap na ibat-ibang uri ng software dito. May games, apps, activation codes, or Windows 10. Check out our video on CDKoffers in the video description. Mabilis, mura, and siyempre legit dito. Madali lang mag-order, search for the software you need, add to cart, check out, dan ka sa payment options nila. Wala pa isang minuto, finished. May legit working CDK ka na sa software na pinilimo. Kamitin ang aming promo code para makakahuha pa ng extra 20% discount sa purchase mo. Kung naghanap ka ng mura, legit, and original software, check out CDKoffers.com. So we're stuck in traffic medyo sa likod nung Ngayia. And rumor has it na ito rin yung... ito rin yung daan paputo sa isang club na yung pangalan is named after the plane of the U.S. President. But I wouldn't know anything about that. Welcome. I am Nelina. I don't recognize you as one of our expected clients today. Would you like me to see when the concert will be able to meet with you? Right, after an hour, we have arrived at warehouse, titya pinayagan na mag-shoot sa log, tinahanapan nila yung order natin. I hope everything goes smoothly.  Alright, so nakaintyay na tayo ng... I think it's been 15 to 20 minutes. As you can see sa surroundings, medyo probin siya talaga yung warehouse natin. Ang problema, according to the staff, wala pa yung items. Even though yung ka-email ko, sabi last week dumating na. Actually, hindi ko to minadale. Inayos ko lahat last week. Sabi ko ang gunna pick it up this week. It's a truce day-to-day. So there was a lot of time for the items to arrive. In fact, kinunfirm nga nila na dumating ngayong items. Ang problema, pag gating ko sa warehouse, wala pa doyong items. Isn't that always the case? Atat-atat mag-benta si seller and I'm take my money, I'm ready, let's do it. But the items are not here yet. So, na-email ko na si seller, maging tayo siguro mga 15 minutes and then wala, parang nag- nag-passyal lang ako outside of the city. You know, the way shops buy from suppliers, parang regular customers sa PC shop lang, mag-message ka. And unfortunately, parang yung experience na to, parang yung how a customer does with other PC shops, not hardware sugar. Sa sabihin na ready na yung item. Pag-dating ni customer, wala pa. And so that's the kind of things we purposely try not to do sa hardware sugar. We're always very OC na, basa na kalista yung items, talaga yan. If we tell you na ready na siya for pickup, ready talaga siya for pickup. Kung nainis ka sa customer na sinasabi ni shop na na dito yung item, tas pag-dating mo, wala pa, nangyari rin yung sa mga shops. Depende lang sa mga suppliers. So yun nga, ito yung first time, first experience namin sa ganyto na overseas supplier. And it really also highlights yung ang hirap kung overseas parang ka-email mo lang, wala talagang in-country representative. Kaya medyo, namin saan nag-alalin ako na kung may mag-o-order na overseas, even let's say from Amazon or New Egg, kasi yun nga kung may mag-aproblema, wala kang maka-usap. Especially the warranty issue. Although in this case yun nga wala pa yung items. A lot of people were concerned na baka scam to. Ito siinadvise ako na wag nalang pumunta, but I really wanted the item sana. They seem good at a good price. Parang di naman just scam, kasi wala naman kinuwa sa aking na pera. Pero yun nga, sayang lang ng panahon ko, like this is basically the whole morning. It's kind of frustrating, but ayun, what can you do? It's part of running a shop, trying to find good deals for the customers and for the shop. Sometimes it doesn't work out. So still here may update, ka-email ko yung kontak ko, sabi niya na, ah, pala, dapat you need to call the warehouse staff in advance. Bago lang tong requirement na to, ngayon lang to sinabi. Ngayon lang na nanandito ako. Ngayon lang to sinabi sa akin, as usual. Sometimes, you know, it's really frustrating.  So ngayon, dapat pala, kinontak mo na yung warehouse staff. So ayun ko, ka-email ko siya ngayon, sabi ko na, you know, can we, I'm here, let's do it. Move the goods, send it here. Kaya ba, kaya ba soon? So apparently this operation is like a freight forwarder. Hindi talaga to yung parang office ng kontak ko, yung overseas brand. A lot of different brands send their stuff here. Bawal daw magpapicture sa loob. The guy running the warehouse is a Chinese. Sabi niya, bawal daw magpicture, magvideo sa loob, but we were able to sneak a picture. But also because I needed proof that I was actually at the warehouse to show my contact na, di ako yung may pakakulang dito. Dumating ako sa warehouse when I said I would on the date and time that I would and the goods are not here. It's a freight forwarder operation. They deal with lots of different things basically. All right, after several emails back and forth, apparently yung problema ako. Kasi daw mukha akong nakakatakot and so ayaw a-meaning ni Clerk na oh, dumating yung items and there was something. Kasi nag-email, taos nag-text yung local contact nila dito according to the contact na takot si Clerk sa akin, this face nakakatakot. I am not in danger, Skyler. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot and you think that of me. Now, I am the one who knocks. And so ayaw a-meaning na nanan dito na yung items. Pero, so supposedly may tatawag sa akin na manager so we can get this deal going and you know, let's do it because I've been waiting a while. It's been a long drive and I really gotta get to the bathroom to take a piss. All right, we got the goods. Dira pa delay. Back and forth. Email, text, medyo nagduda-duda pa ako kung matutulay talaga ito and yun. Nakakatakot ako kaya hindi nila rinilis ka agad but here we are, we got the goods and we are on our way home. So, just behind the scenes of you know, this is not a typical day pero we really have to jump through a lot of hoops with different suppliers to try to get good stuff for you guys. Hopefully this product will work out. Yung maganda kasi dito, lifetime warranty daw siya. So, we'll test it out first before we start selling to customers. Thanks for coming along with me today. Thanks for watching. And thank you to our top fans, Ashur Gap Anima Mundi, Christian Espinoza, John Rubin Otsia, ITX Addict and Richard Ongkinko. Your support means the world to us and thank you from everyone here at Hardware Sugar.


Germany sent six Gepards and thousands of munitions to Ukraine. Germany has announced a new shipment of military assistance to Ukraine, which includes self-propelled anti-aircraft guns, Gepard, and ammunition for them. According to the updated list of weapons transferred to Ukraine, published by the German government, six Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns and over 15,000 munitions for them have been shipped. The new assistance package also includes over 2,600 rounds of 115mm smoke shells, 10 band van, 206 all-terrain vehicles, 20 RQ-35 hydrant reconnaissance UAVs, and 13 vector reconnaissance drones. Additionally, Germany is providing eight ambulances and eight dental sterilisers. Last week, for the first time, the assistance package from Germany included Leopard 1 A5 tanks. During the NATO summit in Vilnius, German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius confirmed a new assistance package for Ukraine at roughly 600 million euros. The package includes two launchers for the Patriot Air Defence System, 40 Marder Infantry Fighting Vehicles, 25 Leopard 1 tanks, and one Lunar Unmanned Aerial Vehicle System. Since Russia invaded Ukraine in February last year, Germany has dropped a traditionally pacifist stance and sent a vast array of weaponry to Kiev from air defence to artillery systems. It is now Ukraine's second largest arms supplier after the United States.


Live from the Mandalay Bay Convention Center in Las Vegas. It's theCUBE, covering VMworld 2016. Brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem sponsors. Now, here are your hosts, John Furrier and John Walz. And welcome back to theCUBE coverage here at VMworld. We continue our week-long coverage here at Mandalay Bay Convention Center. As we look at what's happening in the world of VMware. It's been a big show, great show. Exhibit floors pack a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of energy. And we've been really privileged to bring you a lot of guest insight. And we continue that trend here today with Colleen Sanchez. Who's the VP of Enterprise Development at IBM. Colleen, good to see you. Thank you very much for having me. Thanks for being with us. All right, so tape is dead, long-lived tape. What's that all about these days, right? Because there is truth in half of that, but not in the former. So there is data protection, but then also you transition to this idea is like how to play in the cloud. We want to be cloudy tape and we're there to support that as well. And so there's a number of cloud service providers, et cetera, that we provide a support from a tape perspective. And then just in the general marketplace, as far as tape being used, what's the applicability there? Who's using tape still and what are they doing with it? Yeah, so Fortune 500, 90%. Fortune 500 backs up to tape. So that is a beautiful thing, because we're relevant. And by the way, I'm not necessarily your old father's tape. I don't look like it, right? I hope.  But the medium, there's mediums for different type of backups and different storage techniques. And the media business obviously tapes all of it. Let's go to NAB. All they do is talk about tape, for instance. Here we're doing so much terabytes a day in video. Where's the innovation of tape? Give us a quick snapshot. Demystify that tape is boring, tape is dead. Share with us the coolness of tape. So we chase capacity for the best amount of price because we want you all to use tape. So from our perspective, it's all about sewing more, more data as data is growing, and then also this idea that we want to do it with a tremendously cost advantage. Just about the engineering that you guys are doing, because people might not know the nuances of how much engineering goes into the advancement of tape. What are some of the techniques? Share some stories. Tell us a little about the engineering behind tape and making tapes successful. What if the tape's old? What if the tape's shredded? How do you get it back? All these things, there's all kinds of engineering that you've been involved in. Yeah. So I'll start with like a real short story real quick, is so 1986, unfortunately we had the challenge of mission disaster. While the team in Tucson, Arizona abstracted in partnership with NASA, bits of tape media basically cleaned off the crud. Chemical engineers as well as data scientists came together to abstract data off that. Not that we had the government clearances to listen to what happened on flight recorder, but we gave the data necessary to NASA. So that was... So you recovered the Challenger Explosion, which is one over Texas. That's the one that sprayed all the debris. It was Florida. Florida, okay. But the debris field was wide, right? Exactly. Had tape scraps, if you will, and extracted data off that? Yeah. So, well, the engineering rock stars that I worked with, they're the ones who were the data scientists that abstracted the media. So when you say you, I'm like, I don't know. Tucson team. The Tucson team. Where you work. Yes. Okay. So Tacey, give to the government, then what happened? So we gave the information to the government and we expanded our tape portfolio to where we recognize reclamation on the enterprise side. So we have the Jaguar line that focuses on delivering enterprise tape to various partners worldwide. For example, seismic activity, the data that we collect to track like weather patterns, as well as what we do with earthquakes is stored on some of this enterprise tape, as well as what we do with linear tape open, the LTO line. So LTO is an exciting set of technologies and we publish a roadmap with the LTO consortium because we have partners from an IBM perspective to establish innovations as well. And that allows us to scale down to support entry as well as mid-range clients. Well, I was going to ask, sorry, John, excuse me. You know, we hear so much or there's so much discussion these days about flash storage and all those capabilities and what have you. Why is tape still relevant then? I mean, what advantage does it provide that these more sophisticated, at least hotter terms or buzzwords or capabilities can't or doesn't? So I would say economics. It's all about the price, price per gig. So like we're basically at a cent per gig to store with lots of data. Clients find that extremely attractive worldwide. Is there anything that makes it safer? I mean, in fact, if John's got, he can hold this cartridge of tape and you can stick it in his pocket, you know exactly where it is. And as opposed to some kind of intrusion, internet work and... Security. Those things. So that's what I'm wondering. Encryption. And we support a significant access to what we do from a security perspective across the tape portfolio and solution-wise. And then also just side note, we're greener. We don't have this at disc media or things spinning. We actually just sit there and we're much more greener than other storage media. Yeah, potential landfill issues have gone away because they store those tapes. I got to ask about the form factor because I'm intrigued, because this is again the key point. The reason why tape is so attractive is price per gigabyte. One. That's correct. Two, it's been around for a while. People are used to it. And three, I wanted to ask, what's the form factor innovation?  What's some of the sizes? Are they getting smaller? Just generally, what's the... So we focus on improving the overall density and also with each generation. So we can be as efficient as possible with regards to the tape drives going into the libraries in order to store more based on existing library technologies, et cetera. So great. So what's new? What's the next big thing in tape? Well, so I would say in shortly, we will do an LTO-8. And that will be coming out within the... You'll hear deployment in partnership with what we do or the work we do in the consortium. So I got to ask. I'm curious, because I'm a curious mind sometimes. Tape engineers, what's it like there? Who would you paint the picture of? What's it like to work there? Your peers, what do you guys work on? How do you guys work? What's the culture like? So a great team to work with, no doubt. The reason why I tracked what went on in 1986 is that I wanted to work with data scientist rock stars. And I remember my father being a professor told me, it's like, oh, well, maybe I should teach you what a real rock star is, right? So it's... He was down on the whole tape thing. I wouldn't say down, but I think he was disappointed based on rock stars to me were data scientists. And the people that I work with are polymer scientists, chemical engineers, right? Mechanical engineers, like it goes, the list goes on. So talk about holistic elements. Straight off the reservation from the parent expectation. I know. But back then, I mean, data scientists wasn't as hip-packed. I mean, I have a database degree and in the 80s, it wasn't real something you brag about. Today you'd be like a rock star. Yeah, well, my first compiler was Apple and I wrote code on Pascal. So I like always felt like I've got to move to technology and so for someone like... So you must love the data science explosion that's happening now. Oh, big time. Hence why I'm in storage. Storage is where it's at. Love it, live it. And by the way, it's sometimes the hardest. Whether we're talking flash... We had Tim on earlier who said storage is where the action is. That's where the big innovation's gonna come from right now when he said complexity. Do you agree with that? Oh, totally. Two examples of the most fun I've had in the years is working on the linear tape file system which is Spectrum Archive and also which feeds NAB from a media and entertainment perspective and the other is Easy Tier. The idea of optimizing with the best media type between hot and cold data. I tell you, the tape is super exciting. You're making me excited about tape. And I think that is the thing that, I mean, we talk about cost all the time when we look at our backup strategy, like if you could just store it, if you have the space to store the cartridges, why wouldn't you do tape? Correct. I mean, that's really the question, right? You just put the punchline with regards to the selling process. So thank you so much, right? What do they lose? What do they lose? Do you have to have the cabinets? I mean, is there hardware involved? Yeah, of course. Are people afraid that hardware might become obsolete on the cartridge readers? My VHS, I have all these great tapes with my kids and they're like, I can't find a VH recording. So with all due respect, hardware infrastructure to me, like the whiteboard that I have in my office hardware equals toilet paper. You kind of have to have it toilet paper. Thank you guys, that's what I thought you said. Yeah, I just made sure. So it's necessary, right? Yeah, you got a point. Yeah. I won't argue with you. I'm not necessarily. My basement, that's for sure. I got 386s and 486 machines. But you deal with software too, right? I mean, DS8000 and that whole array of services there. So you're not all tape all the time. I'm not all tape all the time. And DS8000 is exceptional, especially based on the work we've done in ensuring that we have flash across the entire family, product flying family we enable with DS8000. So I apologize for the model types, but the 8888, which is all flash, the 86, 8886, 8884, and soon to be the 8882. You got all those, John? Yeah, can you say that one more time? Yeah. And so the goal is to really substantiate where we feed the enterprise clients in the marketplace, as well as the mid-range, as well as the entry. Based on the data is growing, we've got to serve them. Based on the access time, we want it to be 2.5 million IOPS is what we're working on, and we're there. So we want to see even better. So the performance, you get in the gains and performance, form factor, great engineering on some of that stuff, and the costs just keep going down and down the per gigabyte cost. Agreed. Yeah. It's kind of like a throwback. I mean, it's the tape is not, I mean, in a bad way. I mean, like vinyl record sales are at an all time high right now. There's a throwback concept with vinyl records. Now tape is coming back. I agree. That's very hipster of you, by the way. Well, thank you. For your PizzleP collection. Thank you, you know. Digital world, analog world. No, but I mean tape is effective. Yeah, and as DS8000 is as well, and our focus from an IBM perspective across storage, which really feeds what we're doing with analytics as well as big data. IBM, aka cognitive, right? Okay, so what's the coolest tape story was besides the Challenger one, which by the way, that's very cool. So let's back that out.  Could be cool, could be weird, it could be a corner case. What have you seen share a story about tape? So my best friend is actually a director. She went to the American Film Institute. She talked about some technology associated with Avid. And then we started to go into a deep discussion about what technology they have in their stack, which included linear tape file system. So what it allowed me to do is like, even movie editors care about what we do in tape. And they're like, yeah, because we want reels and reels of data associated with capturing the media so we can go and edit. And I was like, oh, that's the reason your movies are like three hours long that need to be lower. But what's great about that is I really oddly thought to myself, well, yeah, and hearing NAB and the value from media and entertainment, I thought to myself, well, I don't know that it's so real. Until I met my friend who's editing her movie to deploy to the marketplace or sell it to a warehouse at some point. So they're, people are comfortable with tape. So there's a really kind of a habitual kind of workflow. I agree, I agree. Well, if we take nothing else from this interview, it's the tape is cool as our LPs. And I think you've got a T-shirt in the making there, actually. Awesome. Yeah, let's work on that for next year. And that sounds good. All right, good deal. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you very much for the time. Yes, that's a good deal. Thanks, Sanchez. Back with more here on theCUBE and just a bit from Las Vegas.


Science is empirical, empirical truth in that you're testing and you're seeing what's empirically true. Okay. Spiritual. Ooh. Truth. Ooh. And science doesn't touch that. Perfectly honest with you. So I figured, you know, let's make a hobby out of it and get a table and see if two people want to have a conversation in the meanwhile as well. Yeah, that's cool. Got this out of Walmart really cheap. Anyway, talks are normally about anything that you want to bring up. Is there anything like really motivates you? Anything you strongly believe is true? Stuff like that. Anything interesting you saw? Something you've built your entire life around? Anything like that. I have a million things. A million things? Yeah. Any of them is fine. I'll tell you one thing, ready? Yeah. Yeah. So I was born, raised Jewish. Okay. And I got this friend who's here. He's a wonderful guy, a beautiful family. He invited me over and he did some, made a sermon. Okay. About, because he goes to temple. Oh, this sounds heavy. I don't really go to temple that much. Okay, okay. I love, you know, the cultural history. The, what do you call it, fellowship? Yeah, the fellowship and just in terms of the religion itself is just like rituals and things that bonds me to my parents and grandparents. Sure. And ancient peoples who are all gone. Sure, okay, okay. But as a human being, I feel that religion itself has kind of failed. Okay. Whoa. Just totally failed. That's a great topic. Can we talk about that for five minutes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my name's Ty. Okay. Like I said, I do these chats where I talk to people for five minutes about whatever they want to talk about. Religion has failed as a topic. What's your name? Rick. Rick. Rick. All right. Religion has failed. What? I thought we were already going, so I can say it again. Go for it. Sorry, my bad, my bad, my bad. No, no, no. That's cool. No, no. So anyway, the, the idea as a topic is that very interesting to me that this good friend of mine who's very into Judaism. Yeah. Right? And the Judaism is a monotheistic religion that believes that the Messiah was coming, of course, you know. And then Christianity took that same base. Yes. That core. Made 2.0. Said the Messiah did come. Right. And then, you know, Judaism has been going along kind of for the most part pretending or believing that maybe a Messiah will come saying it didn't come already. And in a crazy way, I feel that it's just failed human beings to look at things in that way. Okay. There's an end point that the Messiah will fix everything. Okay. We have to fix everything. Is it your opinion that it's the responsibility of people to like make up for, I don't know, any shortcomings they've seen in their lives, fouls that they do with other people. It's not the religion. Yeah. The religions have ended up on balance separating us. I like the theoretical part that Christianity brought in of mercy into the equation. Sure. So I don't follow Judaism anymore. Okay. I feel like more, in a way, philosophically, I like Buddhism. Buddhism. Cool. Yeah. Do you think the idea of the God claim and like you believe in this being a good person and like all the weight that comes with like certain terminologies like sin and salvation and all that stuff, just kind of muddies the water? Is that the opinion that I'm getting? Yeah. Here's the thing. I'd love to see what you're thinking. Yeah. Again, I'll tell you also what made me think of it is this friend gave a sermon on crossing the Red Sea as a story, as a myth. And he said in one of the part of his sermon that his daughter gave him this great idea that in a way it's a metaphor for growing old and that he looked at his daughter and he thought, no more a little teeny hand, big hand. Okay. And that time is over forever. So you've got to cross over this barrier to the new land. And that's a metaphor for all of us are trying to achieve. Okay. And what I thought, and this is what I'm going to throw back at you, is this idea, no more big hand holding a teeny hand. Isn't that what religion has been trying to do for us? We're the teeny hand and we imagine that there's a father holding us. Right. And I feel like no more a teeny hand being held by a big hand is really over. You're saying like all the goals that can be achieved, that religion touts as possible, can be done without religion at all? Yeah. In a sense it's this whole concept of God as a word. It really means all to me. Everybody. All things. Does it have to be that? No, I think it's a nomenclature decision. But once you say it's separate from humans, then philosophically you're saying it's not everything.  They're all paradoxical. All the words are paradoxical, flawed. It's a big mess. If you say then you accept the God claim. As someone came in the table and said right now, I believe in a God. Well, I say I agree with you because I believe God is all. Oh, okay. Even if he was talking about a specific agent from a holy book. Now if he's specifying it from his agent from a holy book, I would say that is not the way I see it. But I see that there is a miracle by looking in your eyes. Oh, cool. Yeah. You would say, not to put words in your mouth, I have faith in you as a person. Yeah. While you have faith in this like higher power aspect. Yeah, in a way. I'm believing in you. Yeah, I don't need to look for ghosts. There you are. Cool. I'm talking to you now. It's crazy. It's amazing. I like that. I like that. That's enough God for me. And going deep into it and going out infinitely, it's the entire universe. So it's the universe with the life force. Sure. We need to make it somebody who's going to come and be the father figure. The only reason is because we haven't grown up. What kind of benefit do you think people like that are getting? Like what's making them think that way? Because death is scary. It is. Yeah. But if death is inhaled into the all, it's not as scary. Oh. It's not as is. You know, in a way. Sure. I know our time's almost over. Can I ask you one last quick question? As far as trying to make a system to help you get to like true conclusions, like conclusions that comport with reality, would you say that your perspective is better than someone who's more dogmatic in their thinking and believes that an actual agent's controlling things, as far as coming to like a true conclusion? So if I'm honest with myself, what I mean by it's failed us is that I felt like it's created more conflict. So personally, I feel that it's not as good to believe that way, unless that way, that way that is a separate agent. Yeah. And I believe in a weird way. It's not Judeo-Christianity or Muslim or anything because once you're separate, then God is not all. Okay. I believe monotheism is just a unified whole. Cool. Cool. So once you break it up, it falls apart. Yeah. But it's a paradox. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. It's not bad for a five-minute chat. Yeah. Hey, bro. What's your name again? I'm Tai. Tai. Nice to meet you. And like I said, just a personal hobby, just talk with whatever's on someone's mind for like five minutes. Balance ideas back and forth. Enjoy reading outside. And for the record, I'm giving you all rights to do whatever you want. Okay. Okay. But yeah, it's interesting that he wrote me this email and he was trying to say how powerful the Torah is. Sure. And when he said, no more big hand, holding a little hand. Yeah. He was talking about his daughter.  That's the way I'm seeing it. And then he said something funny, though, by the way. Sort of like inhibiting growth, personal growth, by always thinking that there's this thing that's controlling or always more powerful or always more knowing. Yeah, especially if it's separate. Especially if it's a recreation of having a father.  You know, it's kind of an interesting, you start to realize that, you know, the kid thinks that everything is known up there, but we don't know what's going on. Right, right. We're still learning. Yeah. Do you have kids? No, I don't have kids. Well, I mean, they're imaginary, so they take care of my wife in that capacity, at least. Okay, that's cool. I'm wondering, do you think like a scientific perspective is more advanced than, say, than like one where someone says, oh, I believe this because my agent made it. No, but it's interesting. I think that it's a totally different topic. Science is empirical truth in that you're testing and you're seeing what's empirically true. Okay. Spiritual truth. Oh! And science doesn't touch that. Which is better to use to come to a true conclusion? And that is a false question. A question is, if I have something in reality and I want to know how it works and understand it. Science. Okay. And what capacity is spiritual truth useful? Spiritual truth is looking inward in a way that, in some ways you could use the scientific method if you tried and some people claimed they could, but I think that the spiritual truth, again, is words saying there's a magic beyond the empirical truth. And I use the word magic loosely, but there's things that science can't possibly know. It's only hubris to say that science is going to figure out what is the nature of life. When we reach something that we can't explain with like testing, when I say science, I mean like testing, rigorous examination, maybe people who've been studying for years, technology, all that stuff thrown in. But when we reach a point where we can't explain something to science, are we better off coming to a claim using spiritual truth than saying, well, I don't know how it works. I'll wait until I have better evidence. I think the spiritual truth, this is very... Can I reach a conclusion with spiritual truth? That's valid and testable? In a deep way, the faith that I have in a weird way is that the answer is yes, because at the core of all of it, there's something good. There's like this home goodness. How'd you figure that out? For me, it's just a meditation thing that I realize that it's just a full-on, total goodness of the earth, all the plants, all the animals, it's a personal feeling, and somehow it's kind of like... And this is where I say the Buddhism and Hinduism, just from yoga and meditation and mindfulness practices, there seems like a... that there's a natural, obvious morality at the core. Of just being human and just saying... We're living in a society with people. Some of our actions have consequences on society and other people I work with. And also with animals and plants. We don't want to hurt the whole planet. Would someone have to resort to a spiritual truth to come to a conclusion on that? Couldn't they just say, hey, I'm a person, my actions can affect other people, and we want to live in a peaceful society because that's better than living in a society that's in chaos? Let's make some rules on what we agree as valuable between us and try to strive for the best we can. I think they could overlap. The only thing that's really careful is, what is the question? Is one better? What if the answer is they're both good? I guess I mean, one's definitely useful. All that's from, like, science and truth. What's some of the achievements of spiritual truth? I would say that the basic concept of somebody like Nelson Mandela, you know, even when you go to specific people like Jesus and bringing mercy as a value to culture. So that is a great thing that is bringing it to the culture.  Everything's splitting. So it's interesting. I don't know. It's a good question, but I think that a spiritual truth of morality is a reward in its own self, its own sake, and so forth. Would you prefer that people use spiritual truths as part of a decision-making process when they don't have enough scientific proof to come to a conclusion? Yeah, I think that might be something that can hold you over. I like the science and the empirical thing and thinking in terms of systems think for problems in society, but I think the spiritual truth could, you know, patch some holes where there's a known... Like a gap? Yeah, it's a stopgap. Can I throw one last? Sure. Sorry, I'm enjoying the stock, I really am. Sure. What would it take for you to be convinced that science actually does have a voice with regards to these empathetic levels that people connect with, that in fact these gaps that you're seeing do have a scientific answer to them. Is there anything that you would recognize and say, actually maybe I don't need these spiritual truths, maybe if science is testable and it's useful in a lot of capacities, it could also be used for these things as well. Is there anything that you would recognize that says, oh, maybe it's good enough in this area as well, maybe I don't need to have two different truths, maybe I can just stick with one really good one? I would say that at the core of non-spiritual scientific truth, it's very hard, if not impossible, to have a pure morality. Oh, okay. Because morality comes from something different. You know, you can twist it around and make it work, but if you're like a scientific truth and you say, the question you ask determines the outcome. How can I make things best for me? Well, the best thing for me would be to steal all the wealth and make a wall around my area and that's best for me. End of the scientific truth. Could I throw something out? If someone thought that the scientific truth was what's best for me and they found that what's actually best for them is living in a society where other people respect their rights and everyone has a right to their own property and that no one validates those rights and to live in that society and maybe make some laws to keep everyone else protected in schools and stuff like that, I would rather live in that society than one where people shelter themselves because that's way more vulnerable to attack.  I could see that, especially in the earth but what's bothering me is just like the pinnacle of science during World War II ended up in millions murdered. Tons of science was behind a lot of the German thoughts and system and it collapsed, religion and it collapsed spiritual truth and it ended up into a grinding, you know, meat grinder, you know. But now what we have is an earth that's in danger by scientific evidence and science is preeminent which made the United States powerful and what are we doing? We're turning our back on the fact that we have to lower our CO2 output and we have to take care of the planet as a whole because we're part of the planet. So that scientific concept of the long term is not weighed in the scientific concept of the short term what's best for one group or another. So science isn't jumping to like, okay, scientifically what's best for the long term all the humans, not us, but our future generations would be to cooperate and be nice. But science is used to make a laser that will shoot very carefully right at your enemy. That's interesting. Would you say that the way that we determine like CO2 levels or like climate change or like pollution or everpopulation were those not determined scientifically through testing? The whole climate change? Like these long term issues that we're referencing were they not determined through scientific methods? They are, but I guess the thing is is that as a society and maybe that's just where we're young the United States as a leader in scientific benefit like the technology we've invented and these visions that we have is not turned into action for the earth. I mean we had eight years of it for a little while but now in one election cycle it can go away I'm so disheartened with the whole thing so I'm a little bit more hoping that spiritual can get to people because a lot of people don't get to the scientific level you have to have a lot of training and education and so it takes investment you have to be lucky enough to get off and if you didn't then maybe there's going to be different folks some people have that perspective and then the rest you've got to get. Are you saying then that the merit behind a spiritual truth isn't so much that it's true or could be used to get to a true conclusion but that it can motivate people to do actions that hopefully are based on something that's good? Yeah I think so maybe that's the way it is it's a good question because at the core I think that there's a ground of goodness and that's what I look at as a common view with a lot of spiritual truths really deep in there you have this feeling of wait a second this is freaking amazing What's really interesting is at the beginning of the conversation you mentioned that religious is filled as it seemed like people can utilize spiritual truths and twist them for bad like separation of people discrimination segregation of classes based on cast that they're coming from you believe in this God you're going to hell guilt, sorts of things like that is it really a good system to utilize spiritual truths to motivate people if that's the case, if it can be so wantonly used? we started with it's a failure and at the end we're saying that's our only hope Science is a failure too I like science actually I mean I love science I'm totally behind science but the thing is is science without spiritual truths is kind of it's kind of missing it's missing a non-verbal intuitive perspective that is important that's what I call interesting because it's almost like it turns everything into a very practical, boring universe I'm sorry you know it's like when people say that science can understand anything including like what caused life well I disagree that it can be used for anything there's some things, I agree that there's limits to science if you can't test it then it gets a little bit more difficult if I'm shown like a star through a telescope it's a dot and I can see it as a dot but science is like this is just a dot this is an entire galaxy millions of light years away photons are traveling through space at the speed of light, literally the fastest thing anything can possibly travel and that one encapsulated dot is thousands of planets thousands of stars orbiting around each other with things exploding and it's just an open book of amazing things and I guess it does take a while to appreciate it but it's way more interesting than anything I could possibly make up would you agree? I would agree with that and that's one of the reasons why it's like why do we need a ghost that looks like our dad it's already so amazing maybe what we need more is just really enthusiastic arbiters of science to maybe make it more powerful to the masses than maybe someone who's selling something that's not science that could possibly be used to divide people yeah I think that the science one thing is like Ken Wilbur you know Ken Wilbur? he's somebody you need to read Ken Wilbur has this amazing thing on the idea that it's a false thing to say science versus religion it's really good science so these are weird words science and bad and so you need a good science and good religion and then he goes on to define it philosophically okay and then the other one is Buddha's brain this guy writes called Buddha's brain Rick Hansen and he talks about spiritual wisdom and neuroscience and how they intertwine so the combination of those two guys is the pinnacle of what I think okay cause I just stole it from them anyway good to talk good talking to you Rick thanks for the conversation I really enjoyed it you'll be on NPR alright take it easy alright good chat with it Rick and time to go home cause it's cold