Hello, welcome back to my second channel. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm so happy that you're back here at my second channel. If you just stumbled upon this video and you thought it was on my main channel, it's not. This is my second channel. This is where we like to get a little bit goofier. So if you're just finding this channel for the first time, go ahead and subscribe and just see what happens. The last video I posted did really well. I think it has like 800,000 views, which is pretty good for a second channel. So we're gonna keep that going with another garbage video today. I don't think I've ever made a video about the obscene amount of doppelgangers that I seem to have. It seems like every day someone tweets me a picture of someone that they say looks like me. And usually it's just a picture of a person with a big nose that looks nothing like me. But sometimes I get tweeted pictures of people that look eerily similar to me. And it's gotten to a point where I now have like a huge thread on Twitter. Every time I get one that I think is pretty good, I add it to this thread. And even though I have that thread on Twitter, I've never actually made a video about it and I've never actually ranked them. So that's what I'm gonna do today. I've seen a lot of videos of people doing like tier lists of different things. So I thought it'd be kind of fun to do a tier list of my doppelgangers. So I've got them all loaded up here. I've got my screen recording and we're just gonna go through them and we're gonna figure out why are there so many people that look like me and why are most of them women? Okay, the first one I got here, someone sent me this a while ago and they said that they got their car repaired. And I didn't really think this one was that good. But the person who sent me this, I think said that the mechanic's name was Greg. And I think that that's a pretty cool coincidence, that this person looks vaguely like me and his name is Greg. He's got kind of the nose, oh shoot. He's kind of got the nose, he's kind of got the hair but it just doesn't all come together just right.  I'm not good at screen recording. I'm gonna put this bad boy in C tier. It's like not a great doppelganger if I'm being honest but it's kind of impressive that his name is Greg. This next one, I think this one is pretty good. In fact, when I tweeted this, a lot of people were like, that's just you when you were younger. This looks more like me now than it looks like me when I was younger but I still think it's pretty good. I feel like this is a C tier also. Yeah, C tier. This one's a good one. This is someone's history textbook. This dude Carlos, he sent this to me on Instagram. This is Lord Byron, presumably royalty of some sort. I think he looks a lot like me. Like if you don't show the hair at all, I think that looks pretty similar to me. And I'll be real, I like the fact that he's like royalty or at least his name is Lord Byron. I'm gonna put that in A tier actually. I quite like me some Lord Byron. Okay, so yeah, this one is not so good. This is a picture of a woman. Okay, this woman, this woman's got like, she's got the brown hair. She's got maybe the eyes and the nose and maybe the lips. And I'm realizing I'm describing the whole face. I don't know, there's just something about it. Like everything is just a little bit off which makes the whole thing a lot off. It was good enough to go in the doppelganger's list but I don't really think it's like that good. So she is gonna go, oops, I squished her. How did it, okay. I'll just squish her down this way. She's gonna go in D tier, maybe even E tier. What's coming up next? It's another woman. It's kind of interesting to see like where these come from, like where people find these. This one is like, it's like a poster for a military school, yeah, West Point. That's, I'm pretty sure that's a military school. So the face we're looking at is right here, if you couldn't tell. And as much as I hate to admit it, I think that this looks a lot like me.  So like, am I upset that it's a woman? Yes, but am I still going to put her in B tier? Yeah, I am. She's gonna get squished right into B tier. Okay, this one I'm not, I'm not really sure what this is. It's from some Instagram account. Someone clearly sent this to me. Yeah, I don't know. It looks like me kind of but it also looks a little bit too old to be me. And we all know that I will never look old because I've looked 12 for my entire life. I'm gonna toss this bad boy into C tier. There he goes. He's going sideways. I don't know. I don't think this one's that great. My hair is not even that dark. I don't think. Maybe it is, is it? No, I don't think it's quite that dark. You know what's weird is my hair used to be blonde and sometimes I still think that my hair is blonde when it's very clearly like pretty dark brown. And so I say like, no, I've got blonde hair and then I remember that I don't. I'm gonna put this in D tier. I don't think this looks like me. This looks like it came from an old yearbook or something. It is very blue. I don't know why the whole picture is blue. Maybe this was taken like in between when they invented black and white pictures and when they invented color pictures like they just had one color at one time and it was blue. I don't think that's true. I would say this face looks pretty similar to mine. Like if I made this face, like this squinting face. Yeah, I could see this. I'm gonna put it in A tier honestly. Bum bum bum bum bum bum. It's another lady. And if I'm being honest, I think that this looks a lot like me and I also think that this lady is really pretty. So I don't know how to feel about that. I think this could go in like A or B tier. Maybe B tier. It's not quite A tier. Is it conceited of me to think that this woman who happens to look a lot like me is really pretty? Yeah, probably is conceited. She's gonna go in the B tier. I considered putting it in the A tier but I don't like how confused it makes me so I'm putting it in the B tier. Okay, this is a picture from some TV show or movie I think. I've gotten this sent to me a lot so it must be from something fairly popular. And I think that the amount of times it's been sent to me speaks to how much it looks like me. This really does look like it could have been me when I was younger. In fact, I did kind of look like this when I was younger because I kind of went with the long hair. If you didn't know what I looked like when I was younger this could easily pass as me. Like I would almost put it in S tier honestly but it doesn't look like me now so I'm gonna put it in A tier. It could go in S but it's too young of a face to be your boy young face. Next up we got this headphone ad that was I believe in the London subway. I can understand why people think this looks like me but when you look close up it actually doesn't look anything like me and it's also like a pretty small picture of a face. I think it's just sort of like a non-descript white dude with brown hair and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other non-descript white dudes with brown hair also got people sending them this picture. To be quite honest, this has gotta go in the F tier. I don't like putting things in F tier. I especially don't like the fact that there are a lot of women that are higher up on the tier list than this but you know what? Sometimes we gotta make the tough calls. Okay, this is a fun one. This is a fun one because this actually was not sent to me. I actually found this. This picture is at a bar called Muldoon's which recently closed, it doesn't exist anymore but it was in the town that I grew up in and I thought this guy looked kinda like me and I think I might have been a little bit tipsy at the time because he kinda doesn't. Off of just the face alone I might put it in like E tier but because I found it and it would hurt my pride to put it so low I'm gonna put it in D tier and you might think that that's not allowed but it is because it's my tier list and I'm allowed to do whatever I want. All right, here comes the sad prince guy. I don't know what this is from. I don't know who this guy is and I also don't think it really looks like me. It's gonna go in the D tier. It would go in the F tier if I didn't think it wasn't such a silly pick. I think what we're coming to find out while doing this tier list is that how much it looks like me is only a little bit important and what's really important is whether I like the picture or not. So this is an interesting one. This looks like a picture in a health book or something. It says active listening promotes and protects health and healthful relationships and someone circled the nose and wrote Danny Gonzalez in it. I don't know if it's the person who sent me this picture or if the person who sent me this picture opened the book and it was already like this. Either way, I think that's pretty funny that that's just in this health textbook from now on forever but I don't really think it looks that much like me. I can see the nose. I can see why they circled it but the rest of the face doesn't really look that much like me so I'm gonna put it in the C tier. Okay, this picture, I don't really think it needs much explanation. It's, you know, this is just how it is. Like I understand the resemblance but it is gonna go in D tier because I don't like it. I just don't wanna confront the fact that I look like this one so I'm just gonna put it in D tier. This is a picture of the side of a case of beer I think. This one's gonna go in E tier. So this one was sent to me when I was still doing Vine and I would do that dad character a lot. I would have glasses and a fake mustache. So someone sent this to me being like my brother looks just like you.  And I appreciate the effort but I don't think he looks that much like me. The hair is pretty good. Actually, he looks decently like me. I'm gonna put him in B tier a little bit because he looks like me and a little bit because of the effort that he put in. You know, I gotta appreciate the effort. This is from another movie. I do not know which movie but this again is a very convincing younger version of me. Honestly, this kind of like doesn't even look like a younger version of me. This looks just, this kind of just looks like me. I have been told I look like a 10 year old from time to time. Am I gonna put this in S tier? Am I? Could I do it? No. Okay, yeah, I will. No, I will. He'll go in S tier. We got our first S tier. Everyone clap. I don't know if there's gonna be any more S tiers honestly. This was a vine and people would not stop tagging me in this vine. And I also don't even think I look that much like this guy which makes it even more annoying. He's gonna go in E tier. Well, no, he's gonna go in D tier. One of the most popular celebrities to send me that I look like gave from the office. I don't know his actual name, but people send me this dude all the time. I do think I look like him. I don't think I look that much like him, but I think he's a solid B tier. I think people send him to me so much because he's so famous and the office is such a popular show. Ooh, okay, I like this one. People always tell me I look like the guy from Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. I see where you're coming from. I don't think the resemblance is necessarily uncanny. I could see him being a solid C tier. I would put him a little bit higher if he were a real person and not an animated character, but unfortunately, I'm not an animated character so I really can't make that concession. Okay, this is a young Gene Wilder, aka Willy Wonka. I've gotten this one a decent amount.  This one is a very concerning image because I tweeted this and my own father texted me asking me why I was wearing a wig and pretending to be on Dr. Phil. And he was very surprised to find out that this is actually just a woman that was on Dr. Phil and not me at all. I really don't wanna put her in A tier but you know, much to my chagrin, I think I'm gonna have to. Okay, this is another woman. Honestly, people have sent me this one a lot too. I think this looks more like Daniel Radcliffe than it looks like me. I don't know, looking at her, like maybe if I make the face, like, does that look like me? I don't know. I don't really see it that much. I'm gonna put it in D tier. And is that because of how she looks or is that because I want this to be kind of a symmetrical bell curve shape? I don't know, I couldn't say. I could only answer that by looking deep down into my heart which is something that I never do. So this is another one that my own family refused to believe was not me. It's very impressive. I don't know what was going on here. I think she's dressed as Madonna. This is gonna have to go in A tier. This is such an iconic doppelganger of mine. It was one of the first ones that I added to the Twitter thread. It's a pretty good one.  Okay, this one is a little concerning. This person DM'd me with this image and said, Danny, why are you a World War I clip art? Like as much as I hate to admit it, this really does look like me. Kind of crazy how this looks so much like me while still not being very detailed. I was honestly very impressed with this one. This one's gonna go in A tier. I like this one. Okay, all right, this is a good one. Look at this.  This is straight up me. Look at this. Wait, watch, ready? Does that not look exactly like me? I saw this. This isn't a music video. I forget what band it is. And when I saw this, I had to like stop and be like, was I in a music video that I don't remember something? This seriously looks so much like me. And I don't know if it's because we're only seeing one distinct angle. He's also wearing a hat, so it's covering up his hairdo. But this also kind of seems like a shirt that I would own. When we're talking doppelgangers, I mean, this is about as good as it gets. This is going in the S tier. Very impressive. Whoever found this and sent it to me, I am very impressed. Here we go with another woman. You know what? I see it, but it's not like that strong. I'm going to say C tier. I think it's like a fair comparison, but I don't, it doesn't really like jump out at you. This on the other hand, this is a girl on TikTok and it's pretty solid. I mean, we have like different hair color. See, the thing is, do we go strictly based off the face? Because if we do, I would say that this is a shoe in for the A tier. Like if we're just looking right here, like that's A tier material right there. We got another famous celebrity in the mix. If you don't know who this is, he's from the show Shameless. His name is Lip in the show. I see it, I get it. But looking at the competition, I don't really think he stacks up to anything, anything above C tier really. Here comes this girl and I don't really have anything to say aside from she's going into B tier. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are at the finish line. We got one more picture than we're done so. This is a picture that I've gotten a few times, but I think it's pretty good. And that picture is the maid from the Brady Bunch. You see, she is an older woman and I am a young man, but it's pretty impressive how close her hairstyle is to mine. Her face is very similar to mine. I think, I think I feel like she could go in the A tier. Is that crazy? Is it crazy to put the maid from Brady Bunch in the A tier? I don't know, sis. She could go in the A or B tier. I'll put her in B tier. Sure, what the heck? Alrighty guys, well, take a good look at it. This is the comprehensive list of all my doppelgangers and how they stack up against each other. It's a pretty incredible variety too. We got everything from like TV shows, music videos, history textbooks, yearbooks, Halloween costumes. I don't know where this is from. World War I clip art. You know, you never expect to find a doppelganger in World War I clip art. Everything from the London subway to the mom from Brady Bunch. You know, you can't get much more variety than that. So if you sent me one of these doppelgangers, thank you. If you happen to know of any more doppelgangers, I'll save this so that I can add to it later. Maybe we can do a part two at some point. Thank you guys for checking out the second channel. It's been kind of fun to just post stuff on here that I don't have to think too hard about and just kind of have fun experimenting with different stuff. But with that being said, that's the end of the video. Bye.


So, now we come to the fact that what can we see with neutrons in condensed matter? That's the question. The first is structure and dynamics is the broad answer. If you talk about x-rays, you cannot see dynamics, you can of course see structures. Now, when I say structure, that means the measurements are intensity versus angle. We don't care about the outgoing energy. We just impinge neutrons on the system and we measure the intensity of the scattered neutrons as a function of angle and that gives me the q vector and that q vector, that means I get iqt and what I mean is that I get iq as I showed you and its Fourier transform over q is related to my gf. So, in general, this is a most general statement for diffraction. So far, possibly some of you have been introduced to x-ray diffraction from crystallographic material, but in general, diffraction is structure at various length scales, hills depending q, wave vector transfer because wave vector transfer and space, they're Fourier transform of each other. And our experiments are at this, so this is the most general definition of diffraction. Like in case of optical diffraction, we know if you have rulings on a board, then we can from the diffraction pattern, these gratings, we can find out the spacing between gratings, but that's a much larger length scale maybe at micron level because optical rays have wavelength in the range of 4000 to 7000 angstrom. So basically a diffraction gives me structure at various length scales and that's the purpose of our doing neutron diffraction. So as I said, so when I say measure intensity versus angle, so what range of structures can we see? So we can say crystal structure that's angstrom. We can see in homogeneities at typically 100 angstrom, so that means we can see things like micelles precipitates. So sometimes when you are mixing two materials depending on their miscibility, one might start precipitating in the other metallurgists often face this problem. Micelles are basically there are something called surfactants and when surfactants have a head group which might like or repel water and the tail group which is just the opposite, which might accept water. So if I have a hydrophobic tail and the hydrophilic head, then this surfactants they form conglomerations in a solution known as micelles and you can study them using diffraction, neutron diffraction basically or even if I go to even smaller q values or smaller momentum transfers, we can see pores at 10000 angstrom in micron size pores, rocks are often made of pores and we can find out such pore distribution in diffraction. So this whole lot of experiments on the left of this slide tells me about diffraction experiments at various length scales, but diffraction experiments are easier because we are not measuring energy. For dynamics, I need to measure intensity of neutrons as a function of energy and angle. So when you measure energy difference, then of course, we are trying to probe dynamics in the systems and depending on how much energy transfer we are seeing in an experiment, it will sort of look at one specific kind of dynamics in the system and at various q values. Angle means at various q values. So what I get is actually in a dynamics experiment, it is s of q and omega from where we try to get a dynamics at various time ranges. So I have just listed a few. We can measure ponons, the time scales are typically 10 to the minus 15 seconds or femtoseconds or we can study rotational diffusion at which I have got a time scale of typical rotational diffusion means, let me give you an example of rotational diffusion, by rotational diffusion I mean, suppose I have got an NH4Cl, NH4Cl, NH4Cl crystal, then this crystal lattice has got this tetrahedral of NH4, we know N, so I have got this HN and this is on a sphere because NH bond lengths are same, but now interestingly with time this NH4 does not remain static, it might just suddenly it might undergo rotation, this H goes here, that is goes there and or it can tumble, this H comes here, this H goes up, so it is continuously undergoing this kind of rotational diffusion on a sphere and this can be measured, energies and the time scales of the diffusion are measured using neutron inelastic scattering. Also we can look at dynamics using very, very small energy transfer and when you talk about very small energy transfer, we are talking about longer or slower processes, here I have taken example of relaxation of polymer backbones at nanosecond, 10 to the power of 9 as 9 second, so time scale is increasing here and the demand on doing experiments at lower and lower energies is increasing, so when you want to do experiments at lower energies, then you also need neutrons who themselves have very low energies because you are supposed to measure the energy difference in an experiment, if the neutron has very high energy, it will be difficult to measure a small energy transfer as a percentage change, that is why you will also need neutrons with lower energies or what are known as old neutrons in the parlance of neutron scatters, what they are I will come to later and on top of everything, the structure at various length scales and the dynamics at various length scales, we have the magnetic moment of minus 1.91 nuclear magneton for a neutron, so it is a tiny magnet for us, so I can do magnetic measurement at all these length scales and all these time scales using polarized neutrons or using a sample polarized and the neutron is unpolarized, both of these kind of experiments gives us magnetic information, so like I talked about crystal structure, now neutrons are possibly the only tool which can tell you about magnetic structure, crystallographic structures have always been done using x-rays, we know that actually many of us are familiar with the powder diffraction data table where we try to identify our sample, we have prepared fresh from their black piece and say that phase has formed or not, but here in addition we can also find out the magnetic structure, the magnetic structure means you have for example for 3D transition elements like cobalt iron and nickel, you have unfilled shells in D orbit and they have their own magnetic moment, so the atom has a magnetic moment and the neutron has a magnetic moment and it is an interaction between these two magnetic moments, similarly in homogeneities even they can be magnetic in homogeneities and I can use polarized neutrons to study them, similarly when I come to dynamics I have talked to about phonons, but we can also talk about magnons which is the counter part of phonon where the magnetic moments they persist around their mean position and these are known as the wavelength of this precision is known as a magnon and magnons are also measured using magnetic scattering, this is possibly a unique tool which can give you idea about crystal structure in a magnetic crystal structure and also magnetic dynamics among all the probes, so now we will talk about a Q omega space, so omega is basically energy, so energy and momentum space, so on this there is a representation you can see that the Q space is covered by various kinds of spectrometers like spin, nickel, no sorry backscattering, time of light, etc. and also the energy space is also covered by many of them, so these are typical slices of this Q omega space that means the Q omega values in the Q omega space that we can measure using various instruments like triple axis, backscattering, spin, nickel, these are dynamics, an instrument which can measure dynamics, triple axis is an instrument which also measures phonons, I will discuss them and time of light machines they can measure structure and dynamics both and the only thing I want to point out to you is that neutrons cover a very large range of Q omega space which gives us a good handle to use them to understand dynamics and structure for various kinds of material and length scales, also I would like to notice because Q and length scales are inverse of each other as Q goes up, your length scale goes down, so for lower Q experiments your length scales are about 100 angstrom, whereas when you go I said I gave you an example of 10 angstrom inverse, you talk about length scales which are 1, similarly when the time scale time goes up that means things become slower, we talk about energy transfers which are smaller and when the time becomes faster or smaller we talk about energy transfers which are larger, they are inverse of each other, this is just a schematic representation of how we cover the Q omega space in various spectrometers possible, so with this now to cover this we need various kinds of arrangements and those are actually I just wanted to show you some examples, schematics basically, this is one very famous reactor at NISD USA known as NCNR, NISD Center for Neutron Research, I must tell you that you can see that the core is here on the left bottom and there are various instruments and you can see long lines going out, these are actually neutron guides, I will discuss them also in my talk in my course and there are various instruments accommodated on them and actually in reality it looks like this, what I showed you here has long lines into the guides, these are actually they look like this, so you can see the brick shieldings around the guide tooth because in any experiment with a reactor or escalation neutron source using neutrons, we have to take care of the radiation that accompanies the neutron often when it comes out from the source, so there are shieldings and these guides are running through them and the reactor is top left corner from there the beam is coming and goes like this, similarly if I talk about the best reactor in the world, Institute L'Ave-Langevoir in Grenoble, this is the typical look for the reactor, the reactor hall and the guides, so there are 2 to the power 5 that means 64 instruments in this place and that is what they mean and this is how they are accommodated on the guides and again the look of the guide hall, I am sorry I haven't got a photograph here, so it will be similar to what you saw in the last video and then we come to our own neutron scattering facility at Dhruva, Dhruva is a 100 megawatt thermal reactor because the moderator is at close to room temperature, the thermal flux of 1.8 10 to the power 14 neutrons per centimeter square per second, I must tell you that these are very expensive because this flux is when you compare it to even to a tablet of extra source, this is much smaller and so our design of instruments have to be judicious and proper so that we don't waste neutrons and this is a schematic look like, so this is the reactor, the small circle at the center is the reactor core and then you can see the beam lines, there are many beam lines, some of them are radial, some of them are tangential, I will discuss why and then at the end of the beam lines, at the end of the beam hole we say, beam mouth we say, we put our instruments and they are used for various experimental purposes, you can also do guides like you found the guides there in ILL and in NIST, we have also two guides over here which are running into a guide hall next to the laboratory and this is how the photograph looks like, again it's a large hall, this large cylindrical drum that you see at the beam hole mouth, they are called monochromatic drums, I have used this word earlier, but their utility I will be discussing briefly later, so now you see when we talk about neutron diffraction, I gave you the formalism, the theoretical formalism and the reasons for doing several experiments at several angles from the point of view of Q range structures we are trying to look so now there is several points we shall bring to you the core configuration, the optimal use of neutron starts right from the core configuration, then as I told you for very slow dynamics we need slow neutrons, but then we should have neutrons which are slow, so we have something called cold neutron source, similarly also hot neutron source, I will describe them to you, then we have beam lines that transport neutrons, beam lines transfer from the core to the outside of the reactor and then the guides take them far away from the reactor, to define the energy and direction of the neutrons, we have in pipe collimeters, filters, solar collimeters, I will describe all of them, monochromatars to choose the specific angle and one most important thing, neutron detectors because and monitors, they are a very important part of neutron experiments and I will try to discuss them in reasonable details during my talk, I will also tell you how neutron guides work and how they design, so with this I will stop here and come back with the next.


Good. Great. All right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Okay. Okay. Let's see. Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 12 2020 order suspending certain prevent provisions of the open meeting law, GLC 30 a subsection 18. This meeting of the Council on Aging is being conducted by remote participation. We're going to do a roll call check here. And as other members are added, we'll recognize them. So let's just start that. And so and this is a time for you to check your at your mute function to mute and unmute. So I'll ask you to do that. And I see, Jacqueline, that you're muted at the moment. So unmute please when you yeah, because we want to hear that voice of yours. I just had it pop up. I was fooling around with it. So like the missions accomplished. If you hear me, I do hear you. We hear you. That's great. All right. So let you be will let you be the first. Jacqueline Smith crooks. Present. All right. Mila Matamayor. I'm here. Rosemary Koffler. Present. And that's, that's all I see in myself, of course, and we'll recognize others as they join us. But we do we have a sufficient number for a quorum at four of our seven members. Do we have any guests joining us this morning? If we would welcome you also. All right. Thank you. That's good. And then I'm also so let's see. So let's see. I'm Mary Beth always helps me sort of recognize if you wish to speak just for it, you can physically raise your hand. That's fine. And let's see. All right. I think we're good. If there are if there are many any members of the public joining us, you're free to this is a public comment section.  I clicked allow him to talk. So I Dick, are you all set? Can you speak? Yes, I was just going to say that I'm here. Wonderful. Good morning, Dick. We're so glad you're joining us this morning. Thank you. All right. Do you have any words to share with us in the public comment section? No, I'm here to learn. So are we so we'll learn together. That's really great. Okay. So let me just go. Our meeting, I think I think we'll be short this morning. But it's significant. This is this meeting is concludes the unprecedented unprecedented 20 program year of 2021. And I want to take, I want to actually draw from my Native American friend of mine, Audrey Shenandoah of the Haudenosaunee tribe in upstate New York. And she says that if you're on, she urges people to begin their gatherings with gratitude. And I think that isn't a good way to begin this particular meeting. And I want to say, and I think I'll wait until others join us to offer that that those words of gratitude. But I want to just start with saying with acknowledging that that this this year and I will say specifically the words of gratitude for each and every one of you in participating and being faithful and nimble and resourceful and and making your voices heard. I can't I can't say how much I appreciate that in support of the voices and the lives of people in the town of Amherst of seniors in the town of Amherst and those who love them. And that is and I think also it's important for us to recognize that this has been a year, a difficult year, and that we have had some losses, some losses beyond our reckoning, losses of health, of people that are close to us. There have been some just though we've lost something and I think we feel it and some of the usual mechanisms of healing and repair that we have grown used to and and that has made it difficult. There's also I think been a kind of a sense of national reckoning and loss of innocence regarding the the tragic and ongoing division in our country divisions in our country and with respect to the racial racial reckoning and the racial history in our nation and that continues to go on and we still struggle with that and and I think it's mostly been a loss of innocence for members of majority culture who have too often walked away from our past and even and even are present that reckoning. So this members of this council have struggled with this and yes it is indeed has been uncomfortable and yes we have needed needed to strengthen our muscles of of listening and reconciliation when that's possible and stamina and persistence and so that's that's the part of I I have some personal words of gratitude as well but it's been such an honor for me to to be part of this of this effort and I have learned so much from each one of you. One of the things that we have learned and we struggled with is making really to echo what Chad has brought up to us from time to time and a perspective actually which I have shared with him and that is that our our structure has is not has not well served our purposes or or our current understanding of the stages of life of elders. It used to be that you becoming a senior seemed to be something that might have might begin when you were 60 or maybe 65 in retirement but I think each of us has understood during the time of the pandemic especially that there are stages of of elder hood and those stages and the and the lives and challenges of those who are newly retired those who are sort of in the middle stage um um maybe still has have some of their health but are starting to suffer creakiness or take some tolls being taken uh with ourselves or our partners um and then later stages when when we you know we may need we may need um some kinds of support to continue to lead a rich and engaged um and full life um more and in the 80s and then the 90s as well and that Democrat demographic has Mary Beth has pointed out of of seniors with great needs is expanding in our town and we have not yet come to terms with what that means and it's messy and we don't have a lot of answers yet but what we do have is imagination and have the ability to pull ourselves together and have conversation conversations at hopefully face to face as we we connect but we are resourceful and we will find ways to walk to be witnesses to our own imagination and walk through this together one of the things that we did which I have mixed feelings about is that we revised a committee structure and um the structures um the structures themselves reflect um I think our effort was to reflect structures that that are consonant with the mission um of the council on age aging the historic mission of advocacy and of service and um we distilled those uh our mission into three areas um that uh I think are a legitimate um uh focus um which include health and well-being program and service and diversity equity and inclusion and that latter one um is um a new focus uh long overdue but uh represents um a new area of serious work and repair and imagination and again in our in our town um so um that is not the only thing um that um uh I would hope we would look at in the future um because uh Tim um has uh been one of the voices that has expressed concern about senior services and its funding structure and how we um how that structure um is different from other town departments and how um we need to have some serious conversations about how uh to provide both a level of services and also prepare for a future where we know that the need will expand for both advocacy and services uh for um for uh the treasured grandmas grandpas and other seniors in our town so um that is um I can imagine that and and by the way um unless I've missed something though um a new senior center is part of the uh a plan that is perhaps about four years away we need to insist that seniors ourselves are involved in the in the planning process uh nothing for us without us is the motto um and so that that that engagement needs to happen and and from the from the get-go we don't you know and and and that engagement needs to be meaningful um so um some of the things I think that we have not been able to do but which we sorely need um um are a retreat of some sort I I mentioned um um um and some gatherings that that will will allow us to do some of this basic work call it a reach some retreats call at some listening sessions one of the things my hope is is um that we we do um possibly in in this in the summer or at some unspecified time in the future but soon is to have I would love to have a listening session uh with Marybeth just to listen about her vision her priorities and struggles and how we can best support her as a council um and um um and that I think is a sort of a core miss um um possibility um the other thing my other concern I have is I can see us doing brainstorming sessions that's easier to do when we're um in the company of each other because instead of feeling like built billiard balls separated and distant we build our energy builds we we build on each other if we if we were doing some brainstorming around certain issues and that unleashes some imagination there's a psychologist named Bruce Tuckman who who speaks about who many years ago wrote about forming storming norming and performing and uh we've done a lot of storming this year and some and forming but and you know that we and I my sense is of that is that it's also kind of a circle around some of the specific projects we have but I invite us to do that and to realize to realize that we're not trying to shred each other in the process public service is a hot kitchen to be in and it is not for everyone and uh those who who are still standing and engaged um are uh it's very um are very special to me um this I want to say that this is the time um when my my term as chair uh concludes and um I want to share that this um this has been this has been a tough year for me and I don't mind being vulnerable around that I think sharing that vulnerability is a strength that uh is underestimated um my my husband has had some very very serious health issues which continue and I saw some of my own health issues decline I've moved from prediabetes to diabetes and my blood pressure skyrocketed and um I you know I had and I'm recognizing that I need um and there are a lot of other things happening in my life that I need to address in order to continue to be on the path uh and offer my best self to everyone I say that because um I have made the difficult decision to uh to to finish my term and end my term as chair um and um but I do want to say after struggling some I have concluded that I would like to continue um as a member of the council and um um I've had a conversation with my my partner about that and um who faces yet another surgery minor surgery but still a surgery um in August and um so um so what I am proposing um is um that we um not have meetings we give our ourselves a break um for uh or July and August not have public meetings um but my my hope is um that um we create I'm I'm thinking more possibly in August maybe late August um this is still kind of in the planning stages but um certainly Mary Beth and Rosemary uh my predecessor as chair and I have been in in conversation about um how we could um do some of that um list having some listening sessions or brainstorming or really figure out this issue one of our challenging issues is that we we work hard in developing a committee structure in the service of our our three major missions um but um it isn't problematic in a board so small um how how that would even work um with the requirements of committees needing to post their minutes or to post their meetings to take minutes um we don't have the kind of staffing or skills or technology to be able to do that so um part of what we were kind of thinking through and I'll share this is to invite is it um and this is again preliminary and open for discussion but to um to have a um to work together as a committee at the whole so that uh we will we will still have a structure that meets the requirements of the open and the spirit and the of the open meeting law but also be able to work specifically on some priorities and and problems um and um in the service of our mission so that's kind of where we are with that and um um I just um I get when I say also that that means what what that means is that the um typically in this month we would submit a uh a set uh from from a nominating committee a set of recommendations to fail any vacancies that occur on our board and um we um hold on here I just can you still see me okay something strange happened here Mila somehow you clicked screen share and we're viewing your screen share so if you could stop sharing your screen go down go down to the bottom toolbar uh on your screen and you'll see share screen and if you could click that I don't know what's happening here Mila can you hear us there we go okay we're back yes thanks all right good thanks thanks thanks Mila it helps when somebody knows what's going on yeah yes that's a that's a fact okay so to continue um um I had had appointed um a nominating committee and people had stepped up and um shortly after that um Tim who was to convene um resigned um and we so we're we have to figure out how to reconstitute that and can convene that and work through that and I think um as Mary Beth and Rosemary and I spoke yesterday we we have to um um as we repopulate our our um council um my hope is that we continue the forward progress on our um um uh and uh with intention on um diversity and inclusion um and that we're very intentional also um when I say diversity not only racial diversity and ethnic diversity but I'm also speaking about also taking a look at maybe some other skills and also frankly um looking at um uh recruiting a demographic an age demographic uh uh of um uh individuals who um have skills and the energy of the the newly retired and um because um that that's going to be necessary to serve the long term uh goals of of moving the council into the future um so you know I'm I'm sharing that with everyone uh just to um um just to um say that um um um and be explicit that um explicitly invite each and every member of the council to feel uh empowered to share with me and with Mary Beth and Paul Backelman and others um um the uh the recruitment and encouragement of individuals who share our purpose and our mission and and the path that we we have um and that we are we are on um and um again drawing upon the words of Audrey Shenandoah she says you don't have to uh you need not hurry if you are on the right path and uh we you know we've we've stumbled on a path sometimes and we've we've taken a few detours here and there but it feels like we were headed in a direction um that is um affirming life affirming community and firm affirming um and um it feels liberating and uh to me and energizing um and um I hope that's where we can go so um let me just shut up for the moment and and make some room for any I know that's I've said a lot I uh any any comments from council members um or anyone else Mary um Rosemary I I do believe what you're saying is that anybody on the council currently who has ideas for people who might be appropriate members for the council to feel free to come forward and um make those suggestions and um there is a process simply filling out the community activity form yes and uh so if anyone has ideas any member we encourage that yes thanks for that um I would also add that one it's a great um I'm being a bit self-critical here but one thing uh need that we have is to do a better job at orienting our new members um and I'm I've also looked at that whopping uh doorstop of a council member's manual which nobody really reads or only the very the fanatics read and and so our our goal is to trim that down it's antiquated it's uh too much um and um and just um make it you know um more useful to our members and so that's kind of another summer project I think that we're doing as well but yeah I appreciate that I think that that's that's valuable um and um and you know a great suggestion yes Pat and I talked about um the orientation and maybe um looking at this huge manual so if anyone would like to join us in their project we would welcome that because you got the manual you can tell us what you think of it and what you find found useful if you even opened it and but I think there are some essential items that should go into that manual but um much of it is antiquated so we would welcome those suggestions absolutely yes and don't hold back on your reviews we've tried to create a culture of honesty on this council and frank talk so we're that's we we think that that also serves our our purposes so absolutely I would say if any of you are particularly called to to that project or any of our core conversations our core focus you know health and well-being or program and services or diversity and inclusion my hope is that while you're recreating some this summer that you might you know do some of the fun work of imagining imagining what what might be possible and and so you might want to step forward and also I mean I I have to say honestly um I look for I think I look forward to people that I enjoy working with who are community members so I'm starting to think about as I travel around and things are opening up a bit um it's it's a process of real discovery um and I I think so I invite you to discover others I would also say that we are that members of our council do need to be from the town of Amherst have residents in the town of Amherst and so that is that is um that's a requirement um we we also have been brainstorming about how uh to draw upon some specific expertise that's needed um as well and um so um anyway if you have ideas about that you could share them and we do have four vacancies so that's a considerable number of people have absolutely yeah so um Jacqueline can you hear me yes um I I I just want to thank you and and thank Rosemary and Mary Beth uh as a team of uh dynamic workers this is my I'm concluding you might say my first year um and um I have to tell you the spirit of my ancestors is rising in me and I have to say to you it makes me feel like going on feel like going like feel like going on and and and what what it did for me I there was so much as you were talking and bringing things into focus I I heard the echo of maxing waters reclaiming my time as an elder and all too often um we equate my elderhood with neediness and to have a vision for creating a council that rises to the occasion for elders a wholeness is just so energizing it is so energizing uh yes we will do something for or advocate on behalf of but it's not aimed at disempowering by disabling and and and that came through so clearly uh and I guess a very different way and I had not given words to it but framing it in that way makes a difference the stages of elderhood having a place where it's not designed just for quote helping you because you are helpless but working with partnering along the way not excluding providing help of the that that that addresses the neediness but knowing that there's still some life left in you you know what I'm saying yes I know my mama used to say when I when I get to be a hundred which she didn't get to be she said I'm not going to be sitting in a rocking chair waiting for somebody to wait on me and I'm going to accept that waiting on but I'm going to let you know that I'm not helpless and and so this is this is like repeating that repeating that and there's it's it's keeping elders alive not just physically but keeping elders alive holistically and the vision feels not just sound it feels even clearer it feels even clearer not static and not stuck and I appreciate that it's like grounds for appreciation hmm thank you thank you so much for that I've come to realize in my antiquity that interdependence is a spiritual practice and so and that your comments really raise that image in mind and and I'm still learning I'm still learning about that and so thank you um any any other any other feedback or questions or um observations well go ahead I have nothing as profound as what Jacqueline just said but I do want to take a moment at this point in time before we get on with business details to thank you pat for your leadership your commitment and your dedication as chair of the council it has been it's how you took on that role at the most challenging time in history to say the least and during the year we've had several new members and the difficulty of not being able to meet in person and form meaningful connections and and working together as a team was very challenging and you just never gave up you you just were there and came up with your ideas and and thoughts and made phone contact with people to connect and I especially applaud you for your ideas and your um revision of the committee structure because I feel like creating committees that give us achievable goals and also give us guidelines to do the meaningful work for elders and and for the people we serve so I want to really thank you for all that you have done as chair of the council you're welcome thank you yes did hope um I wanted and back at you I want to say before we conclude this love fest I want to say I want to say a few things about individuals as and again my own expression of gratitude and and put this on the public record which is I want to thank you know each person on the council has um um I'm I'm I make the assumption that they've they've done the best work that they can do um I appreciate event palisthenics a commitment to service um and her her listening um and her energy um and um and I hope and I hope uh that um we will continue to connect with her personally uh she's just she's so fiercely practical with some wonderful projects and I hope we continue to nurture that relationship I want to say thank you to to Greg and to to Chad uh to Greg Baskham and and Chad Fuller for um their um being keen listeners uh and commentators um I appreciated Tim's honesty um in saying um and uh you know in the face of of dissent uh difference and uh and we I want to make room for that uh we need to make room for people bringing uh different perspectives to the work that we do together um and I appreciated his well articulated uh concerns about the financial underpinning of the of the senior center and where we where we go ahead that's really a huge topic and we we did not dive into it um this year but we've got to address it um I also want to salute this would have been um this is the end of the term for uh Sue Dirks and what a trooper uh if you've ever done minutes for any organization in your lifetime you understand uh her skill her dedication her faithfulness uh you know it's just mind blowing what she's done for us and um in spite of a lot of her own specific challenges she she's another one who has persisted and helped support our common work um I also appreciate um and value and honor and I'm honored by Jacqueline Jacqueline's courage and her steady drumbeat for justice it inspires me and encourages me and keeps me on the path that where I want to be um and um that has been um that has has kept my heart beating strongly and um I love it um um also I want to say thank you for Rosemary who's been a bedrock for me um and uh just her her energy and her kindness and her organizational skills wow it's a it's quite a package I could go on forever but anyway and then finally I wouldn't have joined this council uh if I uh uh you know several years ago um if I had not heard Mary Beth say um who's at the table and who's missing I heard her say other things but that stood out to me and what that and the message that I heard in that was that everybody matters everybody counts we've got to figure out how to how to put that into practice um as we we we work together as we uh relax together as we learn together and um I was she's been dedicated and resourceful uh and clear-eyed and uh the staff that she has built and that she nurtures uh has served us well during the during this difficult time um I am amazed at that and and uh so um I um again I want to express individual gratitude and put that on the public record um I I think that uh we can transition now uh to uh Mary Beth's report um and um and that's item two on our agenda thank you Pat and thank you everyone and I'm just going to begin just with a very quick thank you to each and every one of you because this year has been extraordinary in just about every possible way um and honestly it has been your enduring support which has gotten me through so I could get teary-eyed because it has been a huge challenge um you know we as as Pat mentioned we've lost some very dear people in our community we've witnessed a lot of physical and cognitive loss due to having to shelter in the way in which this particularly struck our population which has been very hard for all of us and either as we gather and we begin to open up and classes get together we are always reminded of those who are not joining us who have either passed or are at a different stage of a need for a different level of care and so I I think that it's profound in many ways and and I would not have gotten through this without each and every one of your support you know Mila I've spoken to you so many times we talk monthly um your joy for life and how you present yourself is just it fills us up here um you know Jacqueline we've gotten to know each other so well along the way and I appreciate your honesty and your voice and the gravitas that you bring to every conversation um it has been so important to me to center your voice um because your voice has been missing um and Rosemary you know we go back from the day that I arrived my very first day you were there to greet me and and to hold us together uh Rosemary was the first person before even masks were required she she made me a mask and drove it down dropped in a paper bag uh on the sidewalk as we were handing out lunches and was like you better start wearing a mask and you know Pat I'm just going to call you out as as just one of the great persons with imagination um you booming my spirit when I get stuck in sort of the quagmires um you can continue to elevate to raise our vision and to bring out the very best in us and and I thank you collectively you know Tim Greg every which had um Sue how together even though we haven't been able to to meet in person um that we have been able to bring forward the voice and to center the needs and the hope of our community and to keep us safe uh you know that's been my my greatest challenges can we just get through this as safely as possible so thank you I want to applaud your energy I want to applaud your passion Pat um I you you've sustained me and and the work of the senior center um and and collectively uh what I wrote out when I was thinking about this this morning is that you've insisted that we be true to who we are or who we say we are and I to join in with you on all of that it's uh it's challenging and it's jarring and it's exciting and it's hopeful and it's inspiring so certainly the discourse over the past months have been challenging in lots of ways and I also think it's very promising and it is the reason why I'm here to do that work with you is to elevate what we do and to become a more whole and inviting and welcoming community and a senior center and I think you've made it very clear that you know your commitment to that is very firm and your voices are strong and and we can continue with that and I think it's only going to get better as things begin to open up more and we can gather in person so I also have a quote for you Pat you love quotes so um I have you know James Baldwin told his nephew we can make America what America must become and I think that we could insert Amherst that for that in this group that you know we can make Amherst and the senior center what we need to become um so we have a lot of work ahead of us but I just want to applaud you all for your support in your vision um and your courage uh to stay in these conversations and to continue to commit to having those challenging conversations so with that I'm going to switch to our business which is I had shared uh with you all a letter that we received from UMass I'm really um touting um our senior center nurse Karen Reynon she did an incredible job with the UMass students this year and really um transformed that program and participation to one that was bilaterally meaningful and so I think you know apropos Jacqueline's conversation around neediness versus you know there's learning going on both ways I think that when we do the multi-generational exchanges it's really important that it's not just oh the nursing students are serving seniors that seniors are serving them in their learning and and it was just you know cross-directionally so positive um and she brought in a lot of reflection and processes and integration um and follow-up that had never ever transpired um sometimes students would accidentally get called by seniors at 10 at night on a Saturday evening and Karen would be answering those calls at 10 at night and checking in on seniors in the community late hours on weekends and things like that because you know the student would be concerned that they had been contacted um so it was just it was an incredible um commitment by her and again she's only worked here during the pandemic she's off-site and so it just speaks to what the potential remains when she returns here um more importantly you didn't cite this as a success of the council but I want to bring up that we would not have the project for the walkway here at the bangs without your insistence that I do more and so I want to thank you and you know I always think of this council it is advisory but I love I I come from a system and a deep respect for checks and balances and I like when people ask me challenging questions and challenge me to do more and you asked me to do more around safety and walkability and Pat kept pushing me like don't give up like insist that this moves forward like she was constantly nudging me um you know go to the webinar do this go back to the town tell them we need this so um we will have that walkway the um contractor comes today to size up the the site and they will begin immediately so that new walkway down to the Musanti Center into the Clark House and then that really perilous walkway between the bank center and heading up towards East Pleasant are all going to be addressed forthwith so thank you and that is when you can check off your list um our scaling up is going really well as you saw uh in the newsletter we have a number of classes that have returned and it is um it is our reason for being to serve as a site where people can come be welcome have connection move their body the the research and the science behind exercising promoting um cognitive repair even is profound you know all of the centers of science that research aging exercise and movement it can be in fact reparative not just a stop gap so uh that's why I was so keen on bringing in our movement classes um and some are slowly repopulating and some have gathered you know with their with their groups everything here is masked um and we are socially distanced and we have occupancy limits so the the feeling uh among our participants is that it is extremely safe um everybody's abiding by all of the rules without any um issues or problems and they are just simply thrilled the best comment I received was an individual who came out after Zumba class and she told I said how was it um because you could see the joy on their faces the joy in the sweat like it's sweating together there's just nothing like it and they the woman said to me um Marybeth it was all I could do to not cry all during class because I was so happy so I just want you to know that that's what we're building and what we are hopefully going to continue to do I'm looking forward to some more information coming from the health director for June 15th from the state of emergency ends um the only things that we have not returned are classes where we cannot have social distancing so the dancing that occurs um that is like ballroom dancing where you can't socially distance um things like cribbage which was again was a huge group where they can't do it with social distancing so I'm waiting to see how those will be able to be folded in and when they'll be able to be folded in but I think we're on a great trajectory we have foot care back our computer room is open and uh I you know I have an inquiry into the health director of when we can open up for simply socially distance social space so we haven't been able to be a drop-in right where and that was really one of our great uh you know abilities is just to be a place where people could come in have a cool drink and just exchange you know pleasantries with somebody so I am hopeful it will happen either June 15th or July 1 so we're looking for more information on that um I I really appreciate having that that summertime off because I think that that it's going to be a good regenerative time for us and sort of thinking in new ways about who we might be able to recruit I am in conversation with the farmers market about possibly setting up a our senior chat there so that we would have a stand and because I think that that would be another great opportunity and another way to reach people who haven't been coming into the center and to introduce ourselves so what I discussed is possibly going down there twice a month we would have our own senior center stand if seniors who are either in programs or whatnot would like to do it with me uh you know we would we would just be there for the day answering questions we have information about what we do what we're offering and um and hopefully reaching out to some more folks uh the community participation officers go out to the mobile farmers market and so we hope to tag along for that so looking at some some ways to sort of recruit folks um rather than waiting for them to decide to come down here which may be a barrier I do hope you'll all participate in the Juneteenth celebration the bank center will be a large part of that activity and a celebration people will be coming into the poll room to look at the the granite plaques that we have Debra Bridges who works with us as our receptionist has been a keen part of that it's her family's history we will have an area set up in the green behind the bank center with some music and chairs and relaxation and some food so I think it's going to be another just great opportunity for us uh to really live our welcome so I'd love to see anybody who's available to come by on that Saturday and um Wednesday June 23rd there's two thirty to four at the bank center there's going to be the listening sessions for the health department so the board of health Nancy Gilbert as the chair is sending out information and it will be coming out in the next day or two and I believe she's going to be sending it out to all the members of the council on aging and in a number of public ways but that will be an opportunity what they're asking is for the public to come and participate in sharing what are the barriers to health and well-being both you know in terms of what the health department has done well what we are not doing and looking more broadly at the community and I think that we have a lot of ideas so we have a we have a newly formed committee structure but I think we could all probably name a number of ways in which this past year's experience could be augmented and ways in which those health services I think yeah I think there's a lot of room for improvement and looking at the Musanti Center and so I just would invite your voices if you can't attend in person I know that they're also looking at a Zoom session if there are comments that you want to share both in writing or whatnot please contact me I will make sure that your opinions and and also the voices of other members that you know have not been at the table are represented so I just I think that that's an important opportunity for us focused on health and well-being and I have a lot of I've been doing a lot of research on that so I'll I'll be I'll be there and I will be sharing and lastly I think probably the thing that we've accomplished most of what we've been focusing on has been our vaccination rates and if I can do this appropriately I do I sent to Pat I'm going to try to share my screen so and it's hopefully here we go I'm hoping this works for us share so this is an email that I received so one of my fellow directors tracks weekly the vaccination rates in western Massachusetts and I will use my cursor to show you what's relevant and important but part of the reason why we decided that we could safely scale up and and reopen in in a very safe and slow manner is our vaccination rate which you know has been the heart and soul of the work that my staff has done so here is a chart of these are the names of the communities in western Massachusetts which are part of of this survey and this is taken from the state statistics and this was on May 18 so that's the last graph I've gotten the only community that's at 100 percent it's this one right here at the very end here Williamsburg very tiny town and so they are at 100 percent so if we start looking at who's in second place it is our beautiful town of Amherst and that's us so Amherst includes Pelham so the purple line which you know he puts us as number two but I think of us as number one because Williamsburg is tiny and it's a lot easier for them to just grab their folks the purple line is the population of 65 to 74 year olds so we have over a little bit over 90 percent of our 65 to 74 year olds vaccinated and here you can look you know that many other communities those purple lines are significantly lower you know here's over here this is West Springfield even if we were to look at Northampton we are we are above them and they got a higher percentage of vaccine they got three quarters and we got one quarter so I just something I'm immensely proud of the way that not only my staff but the town staff the ambassadors and everybody really took this up as a call to arms if you look at the blue line the blue line represents the next higher population which is the 75 year olds on up so 75 year old plus and we are at about probably 83 to 84 percent for that group and in that measure we have a few communities that are a bit above us Southampton Northampton and it looks like Munson but and possibly North Brookfield and possibly Beltertown but so so we're doing well because if we look at the the younger adults that vaccination rate is about 43 percent for younger younger persons so so we have really kicked it out of the park and lastly I just want to share that the yellow is 50 to 64 year olds and you will see that we are also in second place with about 75 percent Williamsburg is 100 percent on everything and we are right below them so our 50 to 75 year olds are the the second highest vaccination rate in western Massachusetts and our 75 year olds were a bit behind but that's a tremendous accomplishment and again that was with your support and with with the willingness of the community to have the the senior center closed because it was the ability of us to devote ourselves fully and engage in a vaccine clinic so thank you so much and I look forward to a wonderful summer and I hope I do see you either virtually or otherwise please don't hesitate to call me we have lots of time to recoup and to I think plan for the promise that that pat and you all have imagined so I thank you from the bottom of my heart it has been nothing but a pleasure so all right thank you very much Mary Beth um I want to next recognize and welcome um Chad Fuller to our our conversation hello Chad we're glad to see you we're glad you could join us you missed some of the really juicy parts so you might want to consider reviewing this when the recording of our meeting is posted I'll make sure that you get a copy of it because it's been quite an extraordinary meeting let's move on next to the secretary's report and um the Rosemary Koffler stepped forward and did our minutes did a remarkable job I made really I have I proposed not so much a correction but just an additional information on a topic heading on racial equity that's in red you have it before you so what I'm but everything else looked good to me does anybody else have any corrections or comments they want to make um if not I would like to ask for a motion uh to uh of approval I moved to approve the meeting the minutes all right and a second please second thank you all in favor signify by raising your hand all right very good all right the minutes are approved we have no I uh are there any topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours in advance I have none to add to that um I want to talk about I just briefly just say um it's premature for us to sort of figure out how we will communicate um I would say to bore all council members um just uh you'll receive occasional communications from us and uh you can always pick up the phone and call um me even though my term is ended um um we can talk with each other certainly uh the free country so to speak and so you know so that's possible but I do want to stay I I I want us to continue to noodle over our our future together and over uh repopulating uh nominating and inviting people um and so you'll you'll receive heck you'll receive some occasional emails from me as a as a fellow council member and that's you know you'll just get that uh until we develop because we we're absent a chair and so that's certainly another thing that we need to talk about uh how that's going to look what our leadership structure will look like um so uh let's help each other think together about that um and um um if there's nothing uh else um we um I mentioned Chad I just to bring you in yeah before you go on um you said phone I have no phone everything for me is email oh okay so that's that's noted and so uh you will include you in email communications um the next meeting um is to be determined and will um but we will just so you know Chad and others know we will not be having holding meetings in July or August um as a uh council on aging we may have other gatherings but they will not be meetings of the council um I'd like to I'm inviting uh is there a motion for adjournment all right and do I hear a second all in favor signify by hand or voice yeah okay all right uh the meeting is adjourned and thank you everyone thank you thank you Pat thank you thank you Pat you didn't get to read your


Welcome back to Investor Intel. With us today is Sam Keynes of Blue Ocean Nutrosciences. Hi Sam. Hi, how are you Peter? I'm very well. We're getting ready for the mining show, but today we're talking about something completely different. Tell us about the company. Well Blue Ocean started as an IPO 2012. What we do and the only thing we do is dissolve CO2 in the wire so fine it doesn't come out until used by plants to accelerate their growth with photosynthesis. All plants, all types. So any plant that has leaves, has leaves and converts sunlight into food energy can use your process? Yep. The more chlorophyll, the darker the plant. Imagine dark lettuce, kale, cannabis will benefit from doing this. Okay. Would you need a license to get into the cannabis space? We don't need one for the 28,000 growers in Canada licensed already that are called ACNPRs, Medical Cannabis. We do need a Health Canada exemption for the large Canadian licensed producers who were blocked last March from using foliar spray on their leaves for all things until approved by Health Canada. They can only use natural ingredients. That's in part because of the blockage of an illegal chemical used that no one wants to inhale because it's carcinogenic called microbutycyl. That happened last year, the year before when it's a chemical that is supposed to be digested so it's used on fruit somehow wound up in the tobacco food chain and was smoked and is now carcinogenic. Well it's much more dangerous to smoke something that's got carcinogens than eating it bottom line. Okay. So now you need a Health Canada exemption but you can already sell to the people who are growing at home under a medical exemption. Yeah. Currently we're internationally. We're involved in the US and a number of states going forward on growth trials. They do not have any similar requirements for exemptions. How about the rest of the world? Rest of the world, not at all. Strictly Health Canada and so we have had interactions with Health Canada. Bottom line is that we're waiting for them to approve or disapprove the use of adding simple natural carbon done naturally without chemicals into natural water. That's all we do. Are you in revenue now? No. We expect revenue by Q3 likely sooner from lettuce, microgreen, basil, spice producers that grow in greenhouses indoors that use overhead sprinkling systems. They're easy for us to tap into and then probably Q4 for cannabis. You were talking earlier that Blue Ocean is a perpetual licensee of the intellectual property needed to make the CO2 gasification process work, right? That's correct. We also on our own are entitled to further patent any type of improvements and what we have filed for patents for which is critical above ground is to foliar spray and dissolve carbon to enhance growth. We filed in July with the US Patent Trade Office and the EU. That is critical for us to get that patent because there's no similar patents in our patent search we found anywhere. Okay. You're saying the word foliar. That's the same root as the word foliage, right? Foliage is canopy is leaves because all plants inhale CO2 through their leaves, not the roots. So this will only work on leaves and will only be applied to leaves where inhalation is CO2 to create sugars from the carbon and carbohydrates to allow them to grow. We simply will allow every plant that is short CO2 to be fulfilled, if you may, with their genetic capability of growing faster and bigger. So the plants grow faster? Yes. And bigger? Yes. We approve both in trial levels at University of Guelph. We'll expand our trials going forward here with University of Guelph. We'll funded our Best Act Science University in Canada. So we'll be working actively with them going forward on a variety of different plants, including anything to do with dark chlorophyll leafy greens. Sounds like a unique value proposition. We hope so. We've got lots of trials in various stages at the moment, about 50 in total, half cannabis, half not in various conditions, like for instance the Health Canada exemption condition with larger LPs. But at the moment on the books are trials with lettuce microgreens, flowers like orchids that folks used CO2 gas today in greenhouses. Dali is outside, tobacco outside, trying for tobacco inside, and grapes outside and inside is what we have in the books. So it'd be very hard to quantify your target market because it sounds massive. Well it is. It's an $8 trillion global food market grown about $8 trillion a year, is the food market. We estimate about one quarter of that is the wholesale revenue for growers of $2 trillion a year and we're hopeful we can capture one or two percent of that global growth market, not all of it's irrigated, about half is irrigated and half of that half is the kind of irrigation we want over hit sprinkling. Okay, so what's the next significant milestone in the company that we should be looking for? Health Canada approval hopefully to our first announcement of some progress with respect to some of these trials I just mentioned. We're targeting two per week starting next week and again split 50-50 cannabis. Most in Southern Ontario are banned with this limited but we do have 15 people in North America from California to Vancouver to Nova Scotia to Florida on our CO2 grow rep list and one in Berlin, Germany to be the local point person if you may for the expertise to online monitor the trials as we proceed. Great, we'll keep an eye on things and check back in with you on those milestones. Thanks for your time. Thank you very much Peter for having me. Thanks. Bye.