together on the ThinkTech Hawaii Broadcast Network of Strategic Campaigns for the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii. And I'll be standing in today for our regular host, Dr. Kaili Iakina. Today's topic is mapping out Hawaii's housing regulations. And our guest is Trey Gordner, a researcher in urban and regional planning with the Hawaii Zoning Atlas. Trey's been working remotely from Ewa Beach to develop a zoning tool that could help policymakers better understand housing regulation in our state and possibly motivate them to embrace zoning reform. So thank you so much for being with us here today, Trey. It's my pleasure.  So for those viewers here in Hawaii, you may not be aware that it's pretty big rivalry back on the mainland, but we'll look to put those differences aside and work together here in the spirit of a Hanukako. That sounds great. So, Trey, you know, before we get started, what kind of give us a little insight into your background and how did you get involved in this issue? So I'm a civic technologist. In other words, I use code to serve the common good. I just finished a master's in urban and regional planning from Virginia Tech, like you mentioned. And my thesis topic was on measuring the restrictiveness of land use regulations. Before that, I led software teams for nonprofits and startups, including one that I co-founded. I got involved in this issue specifically because land use regulations are one of the most important aspects of local government, in my view, and also one of the least understood. These laws determine where we can live, work, and shop. They specify where buildings can go, what they can and can't be used for, how tall they can be, how many there can be on a piece of land, and numerous other parameters. So if you live on Oahu, for example, the house and neighborhood you live in, the length of your commute, those things were more or less legally determined in 1986, which is the last time the land use ordinance was revised. And the pattern of development that they chose at that time was heavily suburban and car-centric. So whether you care about the environment, the economy, issues of equity, you have a reason to be concerned about these regulations and to understand them better. Sure. Now, you mentioned Oahu. Let's talk a little bit more about housing regulation here in Hawaii. How would you assess Hawaii's regulatory structure with respect to housing? It's convoluted, to be sure, but so is just about everywhere else. There was a hero report recently on housing regulation in Hawaii, you may have seen that, and they measure 12 different aspects of regulation. The average county in Hawaii is above average for the nation in nine out of the 12. So not only are we among the most regulated in the country, but it's broad-based, meaning there's no single rule change that will fix things. We'll have to reconsider every aspect of our approach to permitting development. Wow. So given that, what do you think are really the main barriers to housing and the regulations here in Hawaii? Yeah, I mean, I think I'll mention two main issues. The first is that there are at least two diverging visions of Hawaii's future that need to be reconciled. One prioritizes conservation of land and traditional culture and probably believes that the islands are already overdeveloped and over-exploited. The other vision is of prosperous modern cities with diversified and growing economies, neither of these is politically viable in isolation. They're going to have to come to some sort of consensus in order for us to move forward on these issues. I see some room for compromise. For example, a common slogan you hear here is keeping the country country. The best way to do that is by making the cities high density livings are better for the environment, uses less land, energy, fuel. So there's a way that we can have more residents, have a more prosperous diverse economy, and also not have any larger impacts on our environment, our use of land. There's also the possibility that we could have some sort of arrangement like more neighbors, less tourists. So with more residents to bear the cost of public services, we wouldn't have to depend so heavily on tourist dollars and could develop industries by residents or residents. So that's the first barrier, the kind of two different visions that we need to reconcile. And I think the second main barrier is our public participation process when it comes to land use issues. Like others across the country, this disproportionately empowers local opponents. When a new apartment complex is proposed in a certain neighborhood, for example, the local government does not survey people across the county. It does not enforce the economic necessity of more housing. It asks the neighbors. And so a single persistent resident who dislikes the idea of having a few more neighbors can hold up a development for years through requests for audits, studies, impact assessments, and when all else fails lawsuits. When every neighborhood does that, we end up with no new housing regardless of what we need and even regardless of what the plan conditionally enables. Sure, and you know a lot of that too, like you mentioned, I think is classified as the not in my backyard group of crowd. So just a little tidbit. I think this year there was actually a bill passed here in Hawaii that was HB1837. It was called the Yes in My Backyard Act and kind of looked to do a lot of these things that you're talking about, Trey. And it's a first step. It's really just a focus group at this point to study the issue. But it's definitely something that we see here in Hawaii and something that lawmakers are taking very seriously. And so you had mentioned earlier about the Hawaii zoning atlas. Tell us a little bit more about that tool that you're developing and how did you kind of come up with that idea? So the Hawaii zoning atlas will be an interactive online map that shows what can and can't be built by right on every parcel in the state. The goal is to reveal the connection between the rules that we've imposed on land use and the outcomes we see in the housing markets, that is unaffordable housing in sprawling suburban communities. So we want to educate residents on the issues of land use and zoning and empower them to ask their local and state governments for necessary changes to resolve this situation. I'm the one implementing this idea in Hawaii, but I'm not the originator of the idea. It was actually developed by someone named Dr. Sara Bronin in Connecticut first. She and a team of researchers created the Connecticut Zoning Atlas and published their methods so people like me could reproduce their work in other states. And so I am working from their data standard and am contributing Hawaii's zoning regulations and land use regulations to a national, what would be a national zoning Atlas to help us understand better how we compare with other places in the country as well. Sure, yeah, absolutely. And that sounds great. We're very appreciative of your work on that tray. You mentioned Connecticut and other states that are working on similar types of tools. Have these sorts of zoning tools led to any reforms yet on the mainland or is there anything in place yet? Yes, so the Connecticut Zoning Atlas was a critical part of the 2021 legislative cycle in Connecticut. It revealed the need for reform, provided advocates with important talking points and a very clear understanding of the specific rules that needed to be changed. And it inspired successful legislation, HB 6107 for people who are curious. The biggest impact was a substantial reform to the State Zoning Enabling Act. That is the law by which most states delegate zoning powers to localities. So now localities in Connecticut are required by law to promote housing choice and economic diversity with their zoning codes and also to address disparities in housing availability. The law also legalized and improved upon the rules for what we would call Ohana units here, the accessory dwelling units. It capped minimum parking requirements and made many other common sense changes that have been recommended by researchers for years. Sure, no, absolutely. And what about, we've talked a lot about zoning but what about building codes? Well, it can be argued that a lot of building codes that include important safeguards to ensure buildings are safe. They can sometimes be pretty demanding and add cost to home construction. Is there a place for these kinds of building codes in your Hawaii zoning Atlas? Yeah, we won't be working with building codes in the first iteration of the Atlas. I agree with you. It is something that we need to think about when it comes to housing affordability but the actual impact of the building code is a little bit mixed. On the one hand, the building code, you probably know if you've seen it, is hundreds of pages of very specific requirements for everything from door hinges and entrance and egress to exit signs and stairwells and how big the eaves can be. So there are a lot of rules in there and at first glance, it seems like those would also be restricting development. That's potentially true. On the other hand, it also standardizes development across jurisdictions which makes things cheaper for developers. So there are effects on both sides for building codes, it's not as clear. I would say that we should at least look at updating the building code for the state of Hawaii to be consistent with more recent revisions of the international building code on which all building codes are based. The more recent iterations include sustainable and inexpensive materials like mass timber which is something that we could also consider here and is important here for reducing the other side of the equation in addition to land costs which are influenced by zoning which are the construction costs. Sure. Now, what are some of the things you kind of hope will happen when people use this Hawaii Zoning Atlas? Is it something that you're focused kind of more on the state issues or is it something you're looking more for a national campaign? Yeah, the Hawaii Zoning Atlas is about Hawaii and intended to help native Hawaiians and Hawaii residents first and foremost. We're contributing to this national project but ultimately the reason it makes sense to do this here is because many of the challenges that we're facing with housing and affordability, housing choice are the same issues that other areas are facing. And so my hope for what happens when people use the Hawaii Zoning Atlas what they take away from it is that they realize that what we are facing is at least in part a manufactured crisis. The rules that we've put in place have a direct and significant impact on the availability and the cost of housing. Those rules are also supported by property owners who benefit from increases in property values but those gains aren't productive. We're not producing anything more as this price is going up. It's just the same land and it's a waiting game. So that money is simply taken out of the pockets of renters and businesses and the next generation down the road who also wants to live here because there's an entrenched base of support for these regulations. One, it explains their longstandingness and ubiquity but those interested in building more housing will have to form an equally well-organized and persistent group that presents the opposite point of view in public meetings. So that's kind of the second lesson. It's fundamentally a political struggle. So I hope, one, people realize that what we're facing is largely a manufactured crisis and two, I hope that the silent supporters of new construction, the people who want to live here but can't afford to start showing up at public meetings and testifying in favor of these projects. We 100% agree and we definitely want to get more people involved in supporting some of these projects to help lower the cost of living. A lot of what you, sounds like what you're saying is it's really just kind of a basic supply and demand issue that we have a lot of demand and not enough supply. But just looking at Hawaii in general, what are some of the biggest reforms that would help allow for the development of more housing here in Hawaii? Yeah, well, first I want to expand on the point you just made about supply and demand. It's important to recall that land use regulations, building regulations are not all bad and there are means to get a certain outcome. And so the same building codes that increase the expense for developers to produce these homes also ensure that the home you live in is well built and will last through the years and won't end up bursting into flames or toppling in an earthquake. There are reasons for these codes but there are also systems of involvement by which these codes have changed from their original goal over times. It's more from a preservation of public health and welfare to a preservation of property values for the people who can benefit. So state lawmakers in particular have focused on the demand side of the equation. Really, I guess the city and county have too, the empty homes tax, the cracking down on short-term rentals, those sorts of things. The idea is maybe we can reduce demand for all of these properties and give locals an opportunity to live. But there's been relatively little emphasis on the supply side where we actually build more and build sensibly in order to accommodate the new demand that happens every year when people graduate from college or come back, graduate from high school, get married and start to form new households. So as far as the reforms that can help the development of more housing in Hawaii, not to be evasive, but the Zoning Atlas is really trying to answer that very question at a specific and small level. We'll have a much better sense of that when our work is finished. There are some general principles from other jurisdictions that policymakers here could consider. One of them is to end approval delays by emphasizing by right development in future zoning rules. There's a great article on strong towns that it seems like maybe always means no. There's a special category called conditional uses in the zoning code, which says, well, if everybody agrees that this parcel can become an apartment complex, then it can be. And a lot of land is covered and it gives the perception that there's much more capacity available than there is. But in practice, whenever anyone tries to build that kind of conditional use, they quickly run into the local opposition. So the by right rules are the effective rules. And if we want to deal with the approval delays, which you, Harold, found was one of the places in which Hawaii was an outlier, then we have to get closer to by right development, minimal ministerial review for projects that we really support. There's also in general, increasing the cost of holding property at less than its highest and best use. This one isn't always very popular because a lot of people are like their house very much even if it's right down, right in town very convenient for them. When the highest and best use would say that actually 20 people, 40 people or more could live on that same piece of land and that would be a higher and better use societally. So increasing the cost of holding property will be politically contentious, but it's something that's been shown to be necessary and effective. Facilitating construction innovation, mass timber, 3D printing, prefabricated components like we talked about with the building codes and making infrastructure investments in the urban core because a big part of the opposition or at least one tack that the opposition takes is that we don't have the infrastructure capacity in order to handle more residents. And so investing proactively in the infrastructure that will be able to handle those residents in the places where it makes the most sense to house them near their jobs and near retail centers is something that the policymakers can do now. Sure, no, that all sounds great. And you also kind of touched on that your tool you guys are still kind of completing the research. When is that tool you think when will that be available? And is that something that will be accessible to the general public? Or would that be more solely for legislators, policymakers and potentially members of the media? We aim to complete interactive maps of all four counties with zoning powers by September. The map will be available to everyone. It will be available open online on the YZoning Atlas website. For those interested in what it might look like you can look at desegregate Connecticut that's desegregatect.org slash Atlas. That's where the Connecticut Zoning Atlas is located to get a sense of what it will look like here. So we aim to complete all of those by September and also to release individual counties as we complete them between now and then. That's wonderful, we're really glad we're at Grassroot Institute. We are always fans of transparency. And so anytime that you can open something up to the general public it's always great to just allow people to get a chance to look and see what actually is going on in their cities and state. And I think we've kind of talked about this throughout the program. But at the end of the day what is your number one priority for building this tool and who do you think will benefit the most from it? I saw this quotation on Twitter by somebody named Lyle Stollett Yates who really stuck with me. I'm building this tool because he said, and I quote, our regulations should help us get to the world we want to live in, not be the most powerful things standing in our way. And I think that there are people in Hawaii who have a very different vision of the world that they want to live in than the one that is enabled by the regulations as we have them now. So I'd like to see people become more sensitive to the effective regulations on their lives of course particularly land use regulations in this case and get us away from what Hannah Arendt called the rule of nobody where we're all simply having to exercise the rules as they've been written down for the past 200 years instead of being able to make decisions for ourselves either as a community or through our elected leaders. So as far as who will benefit from this tool primarily my target audience is anyone who wants to live here but can't afford to long-term that is who will be benefited the most by this data advocacy project and by the change that we hope to engender, to facilitate through this project. It certainly is a big audience as we've seen in Hawaii is one of the highest costs of living. And it's something where at the Grassroot Institute we actually have a group that's a campaign that's called Why We Left Hawaii and it highlights a lot of the stories about why people that were born here and locals that have actually left and have gone on to the mainland because of that high cost of living for the most part. Now, Trey, we really appreciate you taking the time. Is there anything else that you want to add and is there anything that you want our viewers to really walk away with after watching this interview? Yeah, as far as what to add, I'd be remiss if I didn't note that we are looking for volunteers to help us. There were many different roles where you can get involved. We have a need for people who know a little bit about coding or working with websites. That would be helpful in order to help us produce the map and the website to host it. We have a need for people who are just able and willing to flip through hundreds of pages of zoning regulations and extract the key bits of information that we need to gather from each of these counties. We are looking for people who know a little bit about social media or are willing to help us produce these educational materials, videos, tweets, TikToks, fun things to help people understand these issues in a concise time. And we're looking for advocates, people who are going to take the information that we produce, go out, share it with the community, and generate this grassroots movement in order to reform. So we meet at the Code for Hawaii meetings on the first three Mondays of every month at 6 p.m. That includes tonight for anyone viewing live. You can search for a code for Hawaii in Google to find the RSVP link. You can also email me to get involved. It's gg3. That's gg in the number three at vt.edu, my Virginia Tech email address. We're also looking for partners who would like to use our data when it's ready and to be involved in a more legislative-aimed conversation, one that really seeks to set the agenda and shape the agenda for the 2023 cycle at the state level and in localities in the meantime. That's great. I'm sure we will be included in that group, Trey, and we are very excited to see the data that you guys come out with. Again, just thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me today and for speaking to our viewers and the work that you guys are all doing to explore zoning and government over-regulation when it comes to housing here in Hawaii. Of course, I also want to thank our audience for joining us today on another episode of Hawaii Together. My name is Ted Kapalas, standing in for Dr. Kaili Ikeena. Until next time, aloha. Thank you so much for watching Think Tech Hawaii. If you like what we do, please like us and click the subscribe button on YouTube and the follow button on Vimeo. 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We all know there's an Old Testament law and a New Testament law Called the Royal law We had the Old Testament, which was the law of Moses We had the New Testament the Royal law both laws were created and Given by the Messiah he gave the old law on Mount Sinai He gave the new law at Mount Calvary if you create a law and it's your law You have the right legal right to change the law modify the law or cancel the law Because you created it Dennis is 49 here is the wreck. Here's the prediction Shebet the Hebrew word Shebet means tribes the tribes will not step apart from Judah nor a lawgiver From between his feet until Shiloh come in Hebrew. This means the messy the Messiah of tranquility He is the lawgiver who gave Moses the law on Mount Sinai To him shall the gathering of the people be Old and New Testament and here's the laws You have the law of Moses there and then you have the laws of the New Testament there Correct Okay now Are you a dispensationalist I? Kind of lean that direction There's some people who don't believe in that and that they might be right, but I kind of lean that way Yeah, don't send me an email I'm just saying what? You could go either way. I'm going. I'm leaning this way here and tonight. I want to talk about these two dispensations You notice there's there's eight of them. There's nine if you put up here Eternity past I left that off, but you can you can toss it in There's eternity past and then you have all these different dispensations these these two here involved Adam as you know right and there's Noah and then Father Abraham number four and Then you had the dispensation of law Moses The dispensation of grace these two we will be discussing today And then this one is in the future The dispensation of divine government where the return of Christ The millennium runs the planet where Jesus runs the planet at some time in the future Tribulation goes in here somewhere. I didn't put it in Okay, so I'm only gonna talk about these two There we go the law and the prophets Were wet lasted till when John and Since that since John the kingdom of God is preached every man presses into it Greek word be odd, so it means to crash into it to kick the door in I Just answered your questions Why can't people get healed? Why can't they get delivered? Why are there why are there so many gutless useless Christians? I just answered your question. What's the answer? They won't crash in They won't kick the door down They won't fight and push their way in You just sit there hoping a blessing will fall in their laps and it never does What were they running from or were they crashing into? The Jews had lived for over 400 years the law of Moses the Law of Moses couldn't save you. It was designed only for one purpose to show you that you couldn't keep The law was a school master designed to lead you to Christ The law was only temporary served only a temporary purpose and then that was replaced by the Royal law the Dispensation of grace started with the great John the Baptist history's greatest preacher Want to know me From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers beyond so Violence people wanted to get out of the law and condemnation and death and they push their way into grace Why can't men get delivered in pornography?  I just answered it see the devil will push his way in he will get vicious He will fight he will lie. He will cheat Christians are too godless and useless to do it. You sit back hoping a blessing falls in their lap And it never does Christianity America stinks. Why?  We'll take a look around the violent do what? Harpato, what's that word? That's the Greek word used for the rapture means to snatch something right? Thessalonians The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout in the voice of the archangel Harpato to snatch This is not Harpato mind if I look at that notice how gently I picked that up. That's not our puzzle Give me that phone You see that see the difference, but the mic. What are you doing starting to call? Well, no, I'm not. I'm not a very good call leader, but The reason your Christian life stinks is because you won't snatch it Your blessings are behind that door and the devil's blocking it. Boom you fight through it and You snatch it kind of new religion in this This has always been here no one reads it This has been here for two thousand years or whatever nobody reads it. What's my job to read it to you That's my job all the prophets in the law prophesied until The odd so see that bus there that bus wanted in that building so bad it It broke. What are you supposed to do as a Christian fight your way in? Christians are gutless and leusos white. They don't hate sin.   You know just tolerated. They just put up. That's fake Christianity That's what you're supposed to be done crashing No man puts a new cloth on an old garment It won't fill up from the old garment and the rent is made worse. Yeah, you put new wine into New wine skins in the Old Testament. They didn't have any new wine skins Why they they couldn't get filled with the Holy Ghost He would only come upon them temporarily and then he would leave in the new covenant You could have the Holy Ghost with you 24-7. What good's that do you? Nothing it doesn't do you any good at all unless you take advantage Many of you have been in churches where you've seen Christian sitting in the chair there for 25 years They couldn't pray their way out of a wet paper bag They're useless They didn't understand new wine skins Get new wine the old wine They put new wine in new bottles both are preserved Jesus Jesus Created the law in the Old Testament And he modified it in the new didn't he? He changed it didn't he?  That was adultery.   I'm on my third marriage Well, that means you committed adultery two times after you got divorced If you didn't get divorced for fornication if you marry somebody else Who got divorced because their spouses? Had irreconcilable differences you committed adultery and you got married again.  The words of christ That's the new you got any red ink in your bible You got any red ink in your bible? Huh You're reading the new law The new royal law Spoken by the lawgiver think not that I am come to destroy the law That's a lot.  Jesus said I didn't come to Pull down the law I came or law or the prophets I came to Plarao Fully completed the law Wasn't working The law only condemned you couldn't save you Why because you can't keep it If you break one of the laws you're guilty of all the laws the law that would save you the law condemnation It's changed to the law mercy You can get it tonight right here All things whatsoever that you would men should do to you. You should do them. This is the law and the prophets Now he's summarizing the whole law in the new Master which is the greatest commandment the lawyer asked him and he said Matthew 22 You shall love the lord your god with all your heart and your soul and your money Now nobody does that nobody can do that, but that's our goal That's our goal and nobody does that I never meant anybody to do it But that's always our goal. That's what we're after You know, that's what we're pushing forward to This is the first and great commandment the second one similar to it. He said You shall love your neighbor as yourself On these two commandments hang all heaven and earth shall pass away now this word in the king james the bad one It actually means power of mind means to transition Okay, so Might be similar to a caterpillar Butterfly or it might be similar to a train Picking up he's been then going to that city Transitioning from this to that See that It doesn't mean pass away like poof. It's gone. No, that's not it means transition It wasn't wasn't a good translation But my words never transition I speak it here It goes into eternity the same It's easier for heaven and earth to pass same greek word transition One condition to another Then for one tittle of the law to fail Everything he spoke and you will never fail. That's what's going to happen Period These are the words luke 24 that I spoke to you he said this was after his resurrection you get ready to go home Remember He's meeting with the group for the last time These are the words I spoke to you All these things must be same greek word plarao Completed come to its fruition be fully done Which were written in the law of moses the prophets and the psalms concerning me All right, let's take a look how jesus handled the old law And how he transitioned us into the new one How do you do that? Well, he sometimes he would break the old law He'd get in trouble for it Jesus entered again into the synagogue mark three. There was a certain man there. It had a withered hand And the religious people were watching him They had their eye on him To see if he would heal on Sabbath so they might use it That's what satan is He's the accuser of the brethren.  Don't do this. Don't do that. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're right. You're right They're controlling you Jesus turns to the man who has a withered hand. He says Stand out here. He's making an exhibition of the guy deliberately Then he says to them the religious people turns to them and says Is it lawful to do good things on the Sabbath day or to do evil things or bad things?  What's lawful on the Sabbath? They couldn't answer him. Why? Well, they were stuck They were stuck there. So they just clammed up He looks around On them with what?  I thought Jesus was a pacifist Well, you know some ways he kind of was but when it came to the devil and people not having any compassion on other people that really bothered him Why because that's the old law The old law had no mercy on you you screwed up Tough this isn't the new law anymore. He's transitioning out of the old to the new And now the new law is based on compassion Love notice how God is here though God does have a temper and he does get angry, but it is very short Doesn't last long at all does it How do I know that you're sitting here If it lasted for a while you wouldn't even be here. You'd already be dead I'm being grieved grieved now. This is an interesting word this root word here. Lupeo see that that means to be sad or something So Lupeo means to be very exceptionally sad What was he sad over the guys with her hand can't work Flat broke living in power. He's disabled. No He was very sad People who don't have any compassion for other people Oh drug him down first it made him mad and then Which is you be doing the same thing? Oh man, these people have hard hearts Who has the hardest heart? Serial killers spree killers career criminals guys in prison. Yeah, they've got hard hearts But you know who has the hardest heart of all?  It's beyond comprehension if you Had some people get resurrected from the 1950s and come back right now, they would be in a complete state of shock That they couldn't believe What was on tv or in the movies that nobody would believe what's on your phone No, nobody could conceive in their wildest dreams porn hub Nobody could could believe that Nobody could believe you had to have a phone a computer in your hand Talking to somebody in india. No, no one could it wasn't there back then I grew up in the 50s.  They should have quit it five years ago and they didn't And so now they're keep doing it and now their conscience has no Horror over it. It's not shocked anymore. Your conscience is not shocked anymore What am I talking about drug addicts Saxetics alcoholics Conscience seared Stuff they did they would have done in their teens and felt bad about Now good name favor They don't even feel Nobody nobody wakes up on monday morning. Oh god. I'm a I'm a I'm a total drug addict.  You got to put some effort into it. Come on, baby.  What are you crazy? I've been count.  You got to put some effort into it You don't wake up a pedophile on wednesday Oh, I like kids.  You got to keep thinking about it You got to keep thinking you got to keep desiring it. You got to keep experimenting with you got to push yourself Nobody wakes up on wednesday.    You can't believe You're gonna have to the odd so boom fight your way out Because you buried yourself Your conscience later on causes you to giggle or laugh at sin that when you were younger you were said, oh, that's not I shouldn't be doing that You're laughing at it now Hello, james chapter four James goes over it Let your laughter be turned to mourning He said I mean when I was a kid Which is before any of you were born Ricky and lucy slept in separate beds Ricky and lucy The number one program on the planet They slept in separate beds and war full full blown full body pajamas You don't believe me do you? That would have gone over well if anybody knew who the heck lucy and ricky was I got to get some better material This is terrible He said to the man stretch forth your hand. He's making a demonstration of him. See he pulled him out front Why to make it make demonstration? No, he was Transitioning out of the old Testament and now this is the new testament mercy You couldn't get mercy under the old testament. Did you do it? Yeah, boom judgment God never planned on keeping that system It was always temporary because that's not his heart He likes to help people He enjoys it He's ready to do it tonight too. You'll be surprised. You'll see him helping people left and right tonight That's what he really likes that gets him going judgment no Mercy rejoices against His hands grew back He's hanging around the pool right remember the story john five Looks over there sees a guy just laying there decades gets healed Pick up your bed and go start walking Oh, you made a mistake There it is did it on Sabbath oops Jesus come in a bunch of sins Jesus the sinner No, there was no sin there. He was transitioning us out I shall love your neighbor as yourself all the law. What does that look like this? He gets off his car healed This the man departed and ratted on him this guy would have been perfect in any church now He fit right in You can't imagine how many Christians Who have had years of blessings from God? One bad thing happens to them and they Turn on him they blame him for something they file complaints with They ask why and they forget all the miracles they already got They forgot them all They become consumed with their current Crappy situation. Please don't look at me like you don't know where I'm talking about You know exactly what I'm talking about This guy gets healed.   I was told to do that by God heal me I'm gonna put him up here and put the religious people down. He didn't do that. He swapped it He he went back to religion and ratted on Jesus Well, what happened what absolutely what happened is normal If you start moving in the holy spirit, the Christians will turn on you If you decide to have a healing or deliverance ministry, I hope you do Hey, you're gonna get some blowback From who? Drug craze sinners.  What is work? They saw it. They thought more to kill him.  No, he did it deliberately Transition Behold there was a woman there had a spirit of infirmity.  What is that soon cooped up? That's the medical term kyphosis She was bent forward Like they've never seen old people to care center kind of with that humpback thing They kind of look up like that and looking at it That's what she had But what was fascinating about it was caused not by a medical condition Caused by a spirit the same thing that causes Sex addictions She's humped over in the service When jesus already called to her he said to her woman You're a loose from your infirmity Remember that she me and she that demon flew out of there and she stood right up. That's not medically possible You can't you can't instantly stand up from rheumatoid arthritis Skoliosis typhosis, whatever it is. No What's the best way to stop being an addict or anything?  Yeah, they can but Without uh getting the spirit out of there if they they would have to have a very strong mind and Be a strong person and be determined to do it see And so in rehab programs what they try to do is they try to pump a person up Mentally and emotionally and try and get them to kind of be a stronger person go fight that addiction Fight it off and here's how you do it.  I didn't get any amens on that at all. We've We're in trouble here folks He laid his hands on her what man hands on people. That's crazy The demon flew out boom The ruler of the synagogue the religious kooks.   Can you imagine seeing this scenario this poor woman? He doesn't have any compassion for her at all Hardness of heart is what you get if you're in religion Religion generates hard hearts Because it tells you the people who don't conform to your religion. There's a problem with it They're jacked up Because they're not doing your way That's the plague of religion This guy's mad at jesus christ right after that gal got healed. He should have been leading the praise service Right, that's what I do when somebody gets healed This person got healed like I have him march back and forth leading the praise service I've done it 50 times down here. Did you just get healed? You're in charge of praise This guy here gets mad at him What are you healing that old woman?  What about my religion dufus? Can you believe this?  Didn't he remember that story anybody read that story? He was really fascinating Anyway, jesus ripped the guy Luke 14 you came to pass jesus went into the house one of the chief Pharisees who are the that's a guy on the sanhedra That's one of the big mucky mucks In israel chief Pharisees And the chief Pharisees there and it all broke down in ranks Yeah apostle paul was up here big one of the big guns and He goes to that guy's house and the place is loaded With lawyers of the law doctors of the law and Pharisees.  They never learned beyond so they don't know how to fight Because every time you take one step toward god the demons took two steps toward you And an alarm goes off in the spirit world. It's the holy holy chute alarm This person is moving toward god stop him What are his assets?  Have you ever watched the tv show? A cable show or whatever it is called naked and afraid You ever heard of that? I'm not making this up I watched that show the other night in my mouth at the floor They took they take uh They took two people and they take them out to Places where people are not supposed to be Okay, there's a reason they call it a jungle and a desert And a deserted island because that's why they name it that because people are not supposed to be there They're not supposed to be there so The two people a guy and a gal Are on separate boats and they're traveling to the to this horror show wherever they're dumping them and on the way there in the boat Both of them are talking to the camera and they're just Telling them what great survivalists they are How they can endure great pressure Oh, they're tough They're tough. They're ready for this adventure They think it's an adventure Then they get to the destination looking around Then they got to take their clothes off One of them's one of them's kind of a pervert and he goes, I don't mind being naked and no problem there. There you go The other one's going guy. I don't feel we're comfortable taking my clothes off But I don't know if this is a challenge and I got to overcome this challenge I got to meet the challenge and I can't make that song So the two morons head into the jungle or the desert or god only knows what Naked with no shoes Okay, most people can't make it from the deliverance center to the parking lot without shoes on Can't make it out there They get dropped in the amazon jungle with no shoes on Get right out of the gate. You know these two people several fries short of happy you Both of nuts But you notice they get off that boat man. There's full of hope Did you ever watch that show? Oh, they can't wait.  I want an adventure 24 hours later They're falling apart 48 hours later. They're looking at the other person with a raw hate in their eyes He's not doing his job.   It's tremendous psychology. It's really interesting Human beings by nature Release who they really are Under pressure and the person on the boat that has their clothes on heading out to the pits of hell That's not the real person The real person comes out When they're out of water out of food And tired of that other person. There's nobody else around Why do you think god allows you to go through these things? He's trying to help you look inside yourself The real person never comes out Just sitting here relaxing Watching the ball game.  Let me get back to this then They were watching him see And it says behold. There was a certain man Which had the drop see what is that? Blue drope the cost that is the elephantitis Have you ever seen somebody at the elephant either their calves swell out to here?  For the law and the prophets were until since then The glories preached What's that looked like loving your neighbor as yourself? Loving the lord god with all your heart loving your enemies bless those who curse you Right for those who said that's the new law What's that look like it looks like this see the guy with drop see he says look I'll show you what the new law looks like I'm the law giver so I can cancel change or modify any law. I want because I created it I'm creating it right now. Check this drop see guy It's mercy They held their peace again Now here's something really interesting Epilebanna my means to grab the guy and Yankee now Come here He physically grabs the guy Probably because he can't stand up I'm guessing he doesn't say that I just filled that in but something caused him to grab the dude He wasn't laying hands on him like he did the woman with the spirit infirmary. No, that's not the word He grabs him Then heals him Then he lets him go Can you imagine that if it was a lower extremity that thing just went down like that right in front of everybody People had been flabbergasted Christ the healer The new law leprosy Everybody knows what that is right Numbers chapter 19 the law of god required what? Listen, you can't touch a leper That's against the law Of moses that's a violation of the law If you've got leprosy, I am not allowed to touch you Under that law, correct? Leviticus 13 listen If you have a leprosy you're not allowed to be here You're not allowed to come to the deliverance center.  I can't even shake your hand. You have leprosy. It's against the law of god Right if you touch them You're defiled you're defiled if you touch somebody's got leprosy I'm defiled against the law Thus sayeth the lord do not touch a leper Wait a minute here Oh, I know we're under a new law here. There came a leper begging him and kneeling down to him And he says if you will you can make me clean. This is the greek word phalo. I've said that before I'm going to get new batteries in this thing phalo means I want to The leper said to him if you want to You could make me clean. He knew he could But he wasn't sure he wanted to see that's the problem with born-again christians They pray prayers that are never answered.  No answer It's praying and unbelief. You can't do that Wipes out your prayer right If you want to you can make me clean. He looks at the leper and goes hey, this guy's being sincere He wants to know if i want to heal And jesus said moved with compassion.  It's gone. Is somebody following this jesus broke The old law he had created And modified it and created a new one and he can do that legally because he Created the law. It's his law. I have no authority whatsoever Adjust any of god's law because i'm just a person. I ain't got nothing He created the law therefore he can modify it or cancel it if he choose Jesus don't touch him Doubting thomas yelling at him. Don't touch him lord. So You're gonna get defiled.  That's the old law.        No, it doesn't No, it doesn't you got to ask for forgiveness for that. You got to apologize if it's if they're still alive You got to get that curse off of you.  I want You to be healed. I want you clean Halo, I want to As soon as he spoke immediately leprosy departed and he was clean. There you go Jesus broke the law To implement the new law the leper went home to his family I Had to pay real money to see that reunion, you know, I would love to have been a little fly on the wall watching him walk into his wife and kids Got on your nose when he last time he saw No job no money Homeless Am I getting too far out tonight for you guys is this this doesn't seem to be working now Jesus said hey listen don't tell anybody about this Go show yourself to the priest Why do you want him to do that because it had the implement the law of moses? No He wanted to show the priest. Hey the messiah is here That's what he does There's a new sheriff in town the old out the new in new wineskins Not the old this is a good bible study you're missing something great here. Uh Oh, no, let's talk. Let me get off this as quick as I can. No, this is uncomfortable, but This is not what I normally teach about because this is an aberration, but Listen, uh in the old testament Okay, blood stuff Had laws about it. Okay seven days unclean Blood okay could be from uh menstruation could be from cancer could be whatever whatever it is doesn't say If a woman have an issue of blood many days out of her time of separation If it run beyond the time of her separation all the days of the issue she is uh separated she is unclean out Out of the camp out of the tribe Leave you're unclean Blood out With me that's the law moses thus saith johova you're out period That's it sorry for the pun Right there Right there. You're out. You're gone Boom, that's the law. Wait a minute. We're transitioning into an There's a new sheriff in town All your days of uncleanness. You're gone. You're unclean.  Well, this is a big deal We're strict laws about blood issues Okay You couldn't even touch her If she sat over there you can't touch that chair You're unclean Law No mercy. Wait a minute here Wait a minute. My son's a new law Matthew nine behold. There was a woman with disease with an issue of blood 12 years She came up behind him and Touched the hem of his garment. She said if I just touched the garment wait a minute. That's the old That's against the law You weren't allowed to touch a priest garment when you're having blood issues that's Wait a minute. You're out Under that law not under this Mercy mercy Overcame Blood issues said if I just touched his garment on me made whole Wow This is a tough woman This was a desperate woman.  Anybody know they're not desperate They want a quick fix to their healing My back hurts. Can you pray for me? What's the root cause of that bad? I don't want to go just pray for Flip they want you to flip a light switch and fix them. I'm an addict click. Oh, no, I'm not Okay, no, it doesn't work like that. It didn't work like that when she was at home She was alone when she was hiding wherever she was she says You notice I've heard about jesus and I know and I think if I could just touch his garment. I'll be made whole You know what? Get her no good. She wasn't healed You're not healed either You might have a rack of good intentions. Oh, I want to minister here. I want to help here. I want to sacrifice Who cares? Nothing happened to her until she Did something she faithful out works is dead. Your faith is useless Until you put it in have no chance of being healed Sitting home saying god loves me and god's gonna heal me. God can heal me. Amen Amen Nerf man bend over Get out the door Make your move do something Triggers the holy ghost hoping and wishing and thinking about it That's only the start That's not how you get a miracle Doesn't work like that. She got up She staggered down to the street. She had to push her way through the crowd Did she time it perfectly and the tassel just flopped up in her face?  She'd go for that tassel Push her away through the crowd fight her way in so you get your mind back and takes every step You take with you. What's the best way to get a miracle?  You don't understand the woman with the issue about blood had to be healed She had to be healed. It was the law of faith God set the law of faith up. You fulfill the requirements. You're healing's guaranteed Sitting around collating. She wasn't even supposed to be there Nobody wanted her there. Why she was unclean She bumped into everybody in that crowd. She made them all unclean According to the law Mercy said sweetie keep coming You're almost there Born again christians never get their prayers. Why because they go two-thirds of the way and they poop out Why be scarred your miracle was 15 steps away Jesus turned on her. She touches him from behind. He turns Touch me Peter goes Hey, hey lord I was talking to thomas over there and he explained it to me All these people were touching here. There's people all over the place. You've got 5,000 people touch you today Thomas verified it for me. It's about 5,000 You see touching somebody means nothing Touching with faith triggers the holy ghost He got one touch in that whole crowd One touch He only felt one He'd been touched hundreds of times But he only felt one of them If that didn't land you're what you're what we call an apostate and that should have worked Daughter Oh, baby Listen to me There's a new sheriff in town mercy now. You don't get the law wants to heal you Jesus that I only do those things I see my father doing on that day You know what he saw father doing healing a woman the cervix cancer. There it is made whole Oh Dad bodies, what's this all about? Well under the old law Jesus kept breaking it I don't know what was wrong when they must have been a terrible sinner No, he wasn't sinning at all. He was transitioning us and getting us to see With real human experience how this transition Proceeded and how it progressed and what it looked like This is what it looks like. This is what mercy looks like The dropsy guy The menstrual gal the disabled old woman This is what mercy looks like I'm showing it to you. I'm not just telling you about it It was against the law to touch a dead body man.  He died in bed.  You can't do that Correct one day brother jarius from the synagogue Comes running out to the street his daughters that close to dying remember the story Isn't that a great story? He's desperate. They've done everything they could for and He hears about jesus rolling down the streets of jerica. There he goes He bolts Any father who loved his daughter would have done it Wouldn't they Almost any let me say almost any so I don't get in trouble there, but he runs down and he said lord My daughter's dying.  Oh wait. I can't do that. That's against the law She's dead. I can't Jesus said lead the way You're not following that.  Why they don't pray like brother jerry instead He came with total desperation And all he said was a few words bang you get your prayer answered lead the way Yes If you pray like this dear lord, you know one of the things that i'm not sure like I if what but then why You end the soul you're getting nothing from god brother jarius was totally desperate My baby That's my only daughter My wife cranked out seven or eight boys. I'm tired of boys I always wanted a girl. They always wanted her to be my girl and now she The brothers are all fine. She's dying brother jarius was in Desperation moment. Why do you think god allows christians to face disasters? They teach you Everybody who prays with desperation Get some miracle not under the old law. They stoned you. I'm over here now You lead the way then suddenly brother jarius is engulfed engulfed with church people The people from the church caught him Hey, don't bother this teacher anymore Your daughter just died. He turns around with panic on his face.   That's up to you Brother jarius makes the right decision. He gets rid of the church people when he goes with god They come walking into the house Hey, what are you guys mourning about?  You're out and take your if he if it be prayer with you You're out He goes in with the mom and dad A couple of the disciples they go in there with him, right? What happened? He touches the girl takes her by the hand And there's a wait a minute. You just broke the law you sent jesus got needs to repent He's breaking the no no i gave that law now i am Lotifying It's my law dead bodies Not with mercy Jesus heading on foot again all kinds of crowds following him everywhere he went big crowds They come to the thriving metropolis of naeem Small little town Nobody there You know similar to nazareth, you know can anything good come out of nazar Naeem, what is that?  No Well, this woman is Now having to live on welfare And what was the welfare system back then the families? She had no husband almost all jobs were men for men Most of the jobs most of them were manual labor Women did women type stuff at home.  She has no husband now. She has no son When the saw her lord saw her he had compassion on her once again a feature of the new covenant Compassion he tells her to stop crying sweet art He touches the sora the coffin Well, that's again what? The Pharisees needed to take jesus aside and explain how the law to him Listen, uh, what's your name yashua? Okay, now this is the law And it's what the law says you need to stop breaking the law Jesus, I'll get back to you on that. But I mean in the meantime I got a Compassionate broken soul to heal You guys can talk to the hand You weren't allowed to talk touch a dead body. You can't touch the coffin.  He just wasn't a relative like she didn't he didn't know them from low to cold Well father knew exactly who they were I Only do those things I see my father doing that day. He saw his father Resurrecting a dead boy young man Then he takes the kid Hands him over the mom. What a story typical of the living savior typical story out of the law into confirmation Let me ask you some hard questions here real quick as we close Are you following the royal law the new law? Are are any of these a feature of your life?   Well, if you're blowing your stack at people That demon needs to come out of there tonight because Paul warned us as christians not sinners christians Grieve not the holy spirit of god same greek word lupail Don't make him sad Then he said something else even more frightening quench not Subenimies the greek word it means to extinguish Like you'd put out a match I was in a service one time. I don't know if I'm gonna tell this I was in I was in a service one time at a big church and To my utter surprise the pastor They're preached a really annoying message That was that was impressive And he had an altar call I thought man i'm gonna go down there Because I kind of felt the spirit and I don't know this this atmosphere is Feels good, so I thought maybe I could pray for somebody who knows So I went down and some other guy was down there. There was about 25 30 people down there and uh this one guy down there gave this uh Prophecy And it was something similar to this I'll say it's the lord the lord commands you to repent or judgment will fall upon or something like that That thing just cranked out I'm not even kidding you. I could actually feel The total atmosphere at that altar change.  You you're quenching the spirit You know quenching a spirit a candle That's what that wore me subpoena me Your job as a born-again christian is to do the opposite you are to be blooming with the spirit of the lord Being used as a channel a vessel To Administer the dispensation of grace See if you're see if you're in the law Listen, what are you wearing today? Will you put your hat on get a beanie? Wear this shirt. It's got to be this color. You got to wear these shoes. You got legalism kills people's souls freedom Saves them Did you get divorced and get remarried? And you didn't get divorced for fornication reasons. Oh That was a sin Come down here. God will forgive you divorce is a Pardonable sin. There's only one unpardonable sin. It's so bad. Am I going to mention it divorce? Is not one of them Well, I've been married. I'm like you brother mike. I got a whole sling on wise and husband Yeah, I'm down here Wish repent of it. I divorced my first wife You didn't why'd you do that? Ah, she wouldn't cook in glee. Okay That was a sin You're not allowed to get into the forest unless it was fornication involved and If you got married to somebody else they sin marrying you You sin marrying them or do you get these cockamamie ideas mike on the sermon on the mount Brother mike's having a moment of pride Listen divorce is forgivable, but you got to ask for it Loving your enemy just to have any bitterness or resentments against somebody They rod give they stole from you. They raped somebody.  Did they you got to forgive them You have no choice You can do it here You can get healed See if you won't forgive that's putting you under the old law An eye for an eye and two for two if you get the old law you're gonna get judgment You don't want judgment.  You don't need justice For all the law and the prophets were until john and from from that moment Everyone presses into it The odd so they crashed through To get mercy The brother mike. I don't know I I'm kind of an introvert. I'm shy. We'll repent of it Let's come down here repent I don't know if you turned on the news lately, but the united states has been lost It's going to hell on the handbasket and it can't be stopped We don't need anybody in the church who's shy What god needs is people who will you got to learn to MMA the lord Right? That's what happened in the old testament He wrestled with god until the morning He said hey I gotta go. I'm not letting you go until I get my miracle You prayed for five five minutes and quit Wow And tired No, you're not tired.   They wanted mercy grace and forgiveness So they blew through the door to get it. That's how you get a miracle Are you bleeding tonight?  You need to stand up And push your way in almost everybody gets on the prayer chain dies Did you know that? Everybody calls a prayer chain.  So I got cancer when you pray for my uncle two months later He's dead now. We're praying for him Listen after you pray then you make your move You don't keep praying You step out brother jerry's was at home praying y'all way y'all way y'all way. She's dying downtown jericho The eternal god was moving through Like I'll just pray here. I can't leave my daughter But what he blew out of that house like carl lewis and hussain bolt He was downtown in seconds Why desperate people get miracles from god?  You say, oh no, I I did that. Well, I mean a little bit on your list. I'm assuming You've improved in almost all these areas That's my guess But the rest of them have to go Let's pray then Father god Lord, I've done the best I could tonight and As you know That's never good enough the holy spirits The only person That can help us. I'm looking to jesus the author and finisher of my faith Father, I'm asking you right now for mercy I left the law behind and I reached for those things which are before me I reached for the prize of the hot calling of god and christ jesus my lord That's what brother paul taught me to do He told me to do that. He said Those things that are behind me. I let those go Yes Yes, I see it now. Brother mike's right. Those scriptures are right I see why christians don't get an answer to prayer. They're they're not kicking the door in They're they're not fighting. They're not like that lady with the issue of blood She was desperate. She fought for her life brother. Jerry has fought for her daughter's life He he sacrificed for her he pushed his way in I see I see why christianity is a failure in the united states. I see how why it's so bad People are too comfortable. People are too indifferent. People are too casual Nobody is Crushing their way in to the kingdom of god. Thank you, jesus. Thank you for Changing your law from the old testament law that would have damned my soul to hell And I was fortunate enough To have found an altar years ago And cried my way Into mercy Thank you for mercy Thank you for grace I don't want justice lord I want mercy And that's what you gave me and tonight The demons tormenting my friends in this building tonight.  So you get ready to get it You're going to get it The holy ghost the one and only Will show up tonight The devil's in deep trouble here Because some people here not all some of you Heard those scriptures and you realized You realized that you're going to have to Kick that door in The door to healing and deliverance the door to miracles Isn't a door that will just open because you look at it or you wave at it.   No No, somebody's going to kick the door in for them The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent Take it by force Lord Jesus Lord Jesus I just had a revelation I didn't understand what a true intercessor was I thought an intercessor was what the people at church told me they were They were wrong Intercessors are door kickers Intercessors smash through To get a miracle from god intercessors fight For the lives Of the people dying in front of them. They don't just sit and pray somewhere No Well, I'm shy and I'm an introvert. I'm repenting tonight lord. I'm going to ask you to forgive me of that That is a curse that needs to be broken off. Well, my mother was shy my dad.  Come on down here if you're ready to repent No deliverance will last No deliverance is permanent without repentance.  Thank you There aren't any apostles or prophets here tonight. Okay, this is just a bunch of real people getting together I don't need any apostles or prophets And I need people are looking for a miracle from god I'm looking for looking to repent Of your sin of your attitudes of your anger of your lust You have a lust for what food. Okay, you lose you use food as a comfort.   That's a spirit. That's an unclean spirit in your body That's an unclean spirit. You got a porn problem. You got a porn problem. That's a that's a spirit That's a spirit of lust that thing's got to come out at any cost Okay, at any cost he's he will ruin the rest of your life. He will ruin the rest of your life He will ruin the rest.  It's an illusion So he can stay in there.     Did you see that? Yeah, sure did come out of my body right now hurry up Satan I command you to come out.  You got to push your way in My god help me My god help me Save me What's wrong with you hun? What's wrong with you sweetheart? Angel when did it start? What age? Yeah, who who abused you? The cousin was a verbal or sexual Was it fondling or intercourse? Both what's his name? Lens okay close your eyes Thank you Jesus Lord you see this beautiful woman here She picked up a rejection demon from lens when she was little He had sexual perversion demons And some of his spirits transferred in there and they're torturing her to this day Lord I wish lens was here right now so he could We would pray for him and we would forgive him And we would ask you to bless him We would ask you to have mercy on him and we would forgive him And tonight Lord All these sexual perversion demons from lens He stole her virginity He stole her innocence And it wasn't lens.  I command you spirit Get out of my body right now.  What do you do to you? He's still alive Lord Jesus. I want you to go find prentice right now I want you to go hunt him down I want you to forgive him I want you to tell him that I forgave him and I want all the demons he put into my body Out tonight there. He is right there. Come on. Come on up Here he comes come out of there Come out of her You unclean spirit come out of that body right now. You deem in a food. I bind your power come out of her You deem in a fear come out of that body right now anxiety come out Every spirit from him. I command you to leave that body right now Come out of my body right now In Jesus mighty name.  There it is every lie Every negative thought about myself. I repent of it. This has got to stop now. There it goes. Come out there right now Go Every ugly man after him that ever touched my body All the adultery all the broken promises all the users the demon sent me all these men go Every one of these ugly men have got to go What's wrong with him? What's the diagnosis? He doesn't have one he goes to a christian therapist and this is his first time coming here Oh, is he scared?  You got to go first Okay Yeah In here in here You love him And there's fear in there About his future And what in god's name is going to happen to him as he continues to get worse And what's going to happen to him down the road? I mean, I heard what you said about all this the fear and doubt You're repenting and releasing that to the Lord You know that we're even here today Like, I don't even think he would want to come Have me on the couch and then I was like Oh, it's Friday night We don't meet you at every center I'll try And it's not in each day So Now this can you sense how you feel right now? Anxiety I Good girl, raise your hands now.   I repent of anxiety And fear come out Come out of me Come out of me Come out right now Come out. There it is. Keep coughing. They're coming out now There it goes keep coughing Come out There it is right there Keep coughing come out Come out.   I repent of it I repent of trying to fix my son. I'm actually keeping him sick I repent of it right now.       What's wrong with him? Come on. What's wrong here? What's wrong with him spirit of anger Anger all come here Hey now you just started getting mad at what age Come out there.   Was she criticizing all the time?   I want you to hunt down tarry tonight I want you to tell her that her son Totally forgives her completely He didn't understand that you had his mother had demons He didn't understand that she was hurt Long before he was born and she had nobody to help her And she was a very wounded person And that's why She kept saying negative things And that's why she was so hard on him Because she was hurt And nobody helped her And the devil told her to criticize her son there he is So he would pick up fear demons here he comes And tonight every demon from his mother comes out Get out of the body right now hurry up.  Sean what do you need tonight? What's wrong with you?    Oh healing if you if you keep worrying about him. He's done God forgive me lord god have mercy on me Holy spirit Cleanse my body. Oh god cleanse my mind. Oh god. I'm so sorry I'm so sorry lord Let your tears go hurry The holy ghost all over you right now The holy ghost all over you come out of there satan satan lucia whole of him Spirit of heaviness come out depression go in jesus money name Go in jesus money name Come out in jesus holy name Get out of that body This guy got anger demons come out of that body right now I see you looking at him You don't think I see things I see you looking at him I saw you looking at him. I saw the look on your face That's supposed to come out All of it a hundred percent of it not 80 percent of it I saw you looking at him You had anxiety on your face Now get out of that body right now. You get out of that body. You're supposed to go home heal tonight That's god's will You're his girl.  Just telling you're sorry just repent If you telling you're sorry the holy ghost will jump all over you There you go. Good. There you go good good boom Boom the holy ghost is moving when the holy ghost moves anything can happen Anything can happen, but you got to make your move You got to make your move You got to move you get out of my body right now. Did you hear me? I want every spirit from my son out of me right now I've been working with him for years. I am a worn out mother and that's a sin.  Don't you see it? Come on mama repent. Come on mama Father god give her the holy ghost heal There it is Keep coughing go go go keep keep going Make your move now The spirit of the lord is moving right now. Make your move now Come on make your move The odds all the odds all She keep what's wrong with you? Was that from a transfer or what? What caused that? He knows something. We don't what is it? He knows something. We don't what is it come out of there quickly Lord tell her what it is You come out of that body right now. I told you come out. There he is come on out. There he goes Come out of there now. Got you.  How you feeling? What new new? Okay. It's praise time. You ready? It's praise time. You ready go. Thank you Jesus. Thank you lord Thank you Jesus Keep going making praise Yo get out of there. Did your cousin come out of there? Did he come out of there? Did he come out of there lots of stuff yet? all right ready Say that I command you to stop feeding her I know what you're doing. You want her to have diabetes high blood pressure and have a heart attack That's what you're doing.  No Stop it. Stop it.  Thank you for healing me Thank you for healing me. You speak in tongues You speak in tongues. I have it really Let this follow me ready boy. Yeah, Basha. Okay.  I release now.  I let it go Lord Jesus, I give you my husband.  There it is. Keep coughing. Come out.  There it is. Keep coughing fear and sorrow. Come out of me.   Get out of that body right now Come on that body right now Hurry up Get out of there.  Oh, sweet Jesus help me. Oh god help me Please forgive me for doubting and losing my faith. I'm so sorry I'm so sorry Oh help me lord Good girl. Let your tears go. Come on, sweetheart. The holy ghost all over here right now. Let's go Holy spirit all over you add a girl. Thank you Jesus Hey, you pray for the scoundrel. She got fear demons Just hold your hand there. Don't touch her. Go ahead Spirit of fear.  I told you to get out of there Come out of there Every demon in that wheelchair.  Oh my god. No I release you now I release you now. Thank you Jesus spirit come out Spirit come out of there right now spirit. You can't say there You can't say that How'd it go? Did you forgive your mom? Oh good.  I want you to trash him Now he's got two that's how it works My spirit that makes us want to take advantage of somebody Spirit or what? What would be the name of the spirit or how do we cast out the spirit? That makes us want to take advantage of somebody weaker than us Take advantage is that what he said? I All the demons have that they're all control freaks Well, who has that demon who you talking to talking about talking about you. What do you what's your what's your problem? What's wrong with you? Lenny mic just been uh, what's wrong with you? Sex addict a long time Listen Sex addiction is not the problem It's never the problem. That's a symptom of it So to get the person healed You have to go to the root of the problem Okay so You started uh masturbating at what age? Five okay Now if if a kid's masturbating at five that's an indication that the demons are already in the family tree. So my guess is Either his dad or his granddad or somebody had lust problems Did they what was wrong with him?  That's not normal. That's demonic That's not normal. It's not him So what you got to learn to do is separate yourself from the spirit he This is you and that's the spirit They're two different persons So the way to keep the guy addicted Is to is to treat him Which is what the demons want you to do Fix him. He's got the problem You gave him the problem. He was five See that That's how it works The only way for him to get healed is to turn on him You got to turn on him. Here's you here's him If you turn on him, he'll come out They came out of him. Didn't you see that? What were you thinking when they were coming out of him? What were you thinking? When you were watching him, what were you thinking? What'd he say? Yeah See now so he can't get delivered because he's got fear And he's not doing anything about it You were doing something about it Did you notice that he was trying to get him out? He was standing back collating See the difference?  He was only five when he got in No kid masturbates at five. That's totally abnormal That's not normal human sexuality a five-year-old Okay, that's spiritual and it came from his granddad. It wasn't his fault He didn't do anything wrong Five-year-olds are innocent.  He turned me into a pervert He became obsessed.  It was all satanic And I don't want to ever end up like that guy on the floor screaming there. I don't want to end up like him I want this pervert out of my body in the name of jesus And this is the dispensation of grace And I can have a miracle If I'll fight for one You spirit of perversion Five-year-old kid. That's malicious That's malignant to take a five-year-old and turn him into a pervert.   I'm not the pervert you are Yeah, you got to hate him help him.   I'll go to youtube youtubers.   I hate it.  You're not going to have it much longer.   I'm prophesying If you don't get the gift of hate and you don't repent of your sin You are going to lose You are going to lose I'm warning you I'm warning you you've been warned You are going to lose There is no way to win No way There is no way to win you must change you must repent And you will be healed and you will be delivered because this is the new covenant With better promises This is the new covenant you get healed and delivered in the new covenant You didn't get that in the old covenant the old covenant has been replaced by the new one This one has mercy This one has mercy Mercy is available Push your way in and come get it. Is anybody neat? Love you. Yeah, go ahead. Mike, right? Mike. Yeah, pleasure You know, I I think the only time I ever experienced something like this. I was alone in my apartment It was after I was right before I got married Struggling with still porn addiction going back. Well, that's him I'm going to prostitutes. I'm five years old But I felt what I'm seeing I had that day Oh good That's God reaching out to you It's a mercy covenant now not the law God's trying to help you get delivered. He wants you free Mm-hmm. Love God's trying to help you But you've got a rack of demons in there and they've all gone dormant They hide when you start at five they stack up But once they're out No more addiction. It's gone when you put your faith in christ and repent Yeah, and then you Yeah, exactly Then you take your authority and command them to come out See this guy here. He's got 10 times more demons you there So he's going to take him a long time to get the layers out Some of them are coming out now, but he's got racks of them in there So you got to start somewhere Like that guy did The guy in the pledge he started started here. He's not done, but he's He was only doing a great job over there. They were coming out They were coming out all these people you saw them all down Yeah, you're next Because God's got a call for your life.  They're powerful as you know They give people overwhelming urges Just unreal. It's like it's not you and it isn't you it's them It's kind of like a monster movie See that kid right there. That's not him It's kind of like the movie the exorcist You ever see that movie? Yeah, that wasn't her That was him. This is not you That's him Now you're not near as bad as she was but Same principle She played with the Ouija board and he got in You Got in that guy Curses mother yell at her start blowing the stack they got in Yeah sin gets them in they come in through sin only in your case for the granddad sin Sinning boom. We were just five you weren't sinning the kids don't sin They're just kids Do you speak in tongues? Oh guys, so that's your next step Yeah, everybody has it if they're born again everybody has their they have the holy spirit. Are you saved? Hmm, how do you know now? He died for everybody. I didn't mean you're saved. How do you know you're safe? You have any spiritual evidence you're saved You've improved You've improved. Okay. Well, okay. Hold on a second Now your salvation is kind of weak. Okay, so let's ask God to fix that. Okay Father God You see this kid here.  He looks around he reads people easy And he has great potential to be a A minister or a counselor something like that really good with people Everybody likes him right after they meet him, but he needs the holy ghost He needs the holy spirit at a greater level than he has now He needs the anointing He needs the anointing So i'm asking you to lead him through it Lead him into it.  Thank you, Jesus Heal lord. Thank you Jesus Thank you, Jesus Heal You need a visitation lord a visitation upon the man of god. I know you want to use him help him Help him Heal Thank you, Jesus Lord, I want you to fill him with a gift of praise tomorrow So he's grateful all day tomorrow Starting right now go ahead. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you.  I love you Tell him you love him go ahead Thank you, jesus Hi, baby Hi, sweet art How'd you do tonight? What'd she do? Yeah, I saw that I'm well done. You got a blood clot. How long you had that? You have? How'd you get it? Where's it at? There's a blood clot in there. Okay All right, lord. I want you to dissolve this thing right now To solve No doubts come on there Come out right now come on buddy. There it comes blood clot. Come up. There it is. Yeah, that's the pain Spirit of infirmity come on that blood clot There it comes.  Come out of there Get out of there, buddy Come out of there stinking blood clasers. Come out Yeah demon of pain come on There it goes. Come on buddy quickly quicker quickly come out Get out of her stomach right now and stop causing that pain. There he is.  I command you satan come out of her Say it.   There it comes.  Pat demons still hiding in there after all these years. That's unbelievable Come on body right now Come on pat Pat come on pat come on there come on Pat pat It's not her fault. You should have helped yourself. You lied come out of there Get out of there. It's not her fault. You should have helped yourself pat come on Come out of there right now get out of there Regrets over pat five years later. That's outrageous. Come on body Regrets marriage regrets come on Get out of there Get out of that body right now pat. I curse every demon from your body. Come out of there right now You wheelchair monster come on Come on out Regrets from her marriage. I can't believe it.  It wasn't my fault. He should have helped himself He never repented. He wouldn't repent. He wouldn't change. That wasn't my fault I release pat and all my regrets over him for the this is my last day To ever be married to pat My marriage is severed Sever Sever Severed Marriage sever I sever my marriage right now Jesus holy name Out this is the end for pat pat goes forever No more pat pat goes forever pat's dead, but he's still alive He's not supposed to be here Regrets marriage regrets Marriage regrets unbelievable pain I release my husband now. I should have done it five years ago. This is it. It's over It's over I repent of it now pat Pat roll out of here quickly Pat Let's go. Yes come out. I repent of this insanity The insanity of my husband total insanity YouTubers, this is brother mike. I don't know how many of you are listening right now. He probably all went home It was a wild night a wild night the addicts were here The demon infected people were here It was It was amazing I hope you can come for a visit soon. 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