Well, first of all, how was your week? My week was good. How was yours week? It was amazing. I've had an amazing week thus far. How does it feel to have a show out? It feels good man, you know, thank you for doing the show last week We had a lot of technical difficulties that were out of our control. I saw you tweet about that Yeah, it was just like a sex transfer stuff, you know, you're doing a show live the tape so when they transfer stuff to Wherever they're transferring it so it can get the air so it kind of like had a lot of glitches in it But you know, they fixed it and it's up on Paramount Plus for screaming But you know, it was a great first show man I think people really like the the panel format. Yeah, you know They like seeing us all up there.   That's smart should be boring That's my biggest issue with smart things It's about how you do it. It's about putting the medicine in the candy.  Nah, you don't like Bill Maher, you know, he's fine. He's a comedian.  No, it's just about the presentation. Yeah Yeah, I know I know mark mar has like some some interesting space and I think that you can do something Okay, and I told you this before the park is the trickiest thing with you is gonna be on your show is When guests talk, they're gonna be less interesting than you and less funny than you and I mean And and and I actually really liked the guests like that girl Liz Coleman's brilliant Coleman was great. Yes. So like but at the same time like I hear them talking and I'm like Oh, Charlemagne would be funny or saying these things. Yeah. So that's gonna be the tricky part is how do I get enough Charlemagne? And And have some of these guests. It's just a conversation. I think it works I mean listen, did they cut that whole segment out where we were calling this a glizzy gobbler? No, they kept that. That's it. They kept that in They just cut out the peep Buddha judge That was a cool line, I didn't think it was anything wrong with it We said something with the Buddha judge and then somebody was talking about weddings and you were saying that I was like Well, who pays the wedding in a gay marriage? Yeah, you said the bottom Obviously, and so Liz used to work for Secretary peep Buddha judge. Yeah transportation. Yeah, I said well The secretary So I said who paid at Pete's wedding and she was like, I'm not touching that with a ten-foot ball. I was like, I know who You know, I thought that was a cool joke, but what happened? Yeah, they thought it might come off homophobic Why is that homophobic? I don't know. I feel like we all are just joking on each other in good-natured fun But isn't it more homophobic to assume he can't take no dick? I thought you're about to say take a joke. No, no, I'm just saying like You know what I'm saying? Like it's a ten-foot pole. I'm saying like, you know, you can handle dangling, bro. Like You know, we're just born that's a prop. You give them props.  Yeah, if we can't joke on each other We're really not creating community. That's the things that bring community together food Um tragedy. Yeah, right. Yeah in humor. Yes It's like that we got to be able to laugh and joke at each other. I'm not doing anything Like that's like stepping on you. I'm giving you props. That's it And yo, you can get these jokes too. Nobody's above jokes. Nobody's above jokes That is one thing that happens. I see a lot like there's certain communities, especially like Like black the black community is always okay to joke on right from these same people who will push back about LGBTQ community you know, um Other communities that I won't even say Well, no, seriously the jeweler's community the asian community Like there'll be everybody sensitive when it comes to jokes about them But yeah, it's like certain community you can you can clown pole white people all day long Yes, you could clown uh black people all day long, but it's just certain communities like I don't think we should do that I'm like, we don't write the jokes for nobody else then. Yeah, that's how I feel Yeah, I'm gonna give it to everybody. You got to give it to everybody. You got to give it everybody equal opportunity Yeah, I I agree and I yeah, I feel like if it's clearly a joke, you got way more uh wiggle room Yes, if it's a joke, that's good intentioned.  Yeah. Yeah Look at this. Look at the opening of the podcast. I just Oh Louie did flagrant. Yeah, we had louie and we had joe liston because they got a movie coming out And I thought it was rdo. It's out, but they're gonna release it also for sale.  Wow. Yeah All right, we shout out to louie with a good did he come out? Yeah, it's out today, man He's just wow, bro. He goes for it.  This is what we do. We like defend the craziest thing, bro But he said bull's eye, bro. Oh my god Jesus christ, I gotta listen to that one. Yeah, man people but it feels good. It feels good to be back making tv If I like creating content man, yeah, yeah The the the biggest part is like It's it's pressure in television. Yeah, the reason it's pressure in television because television is like still so structured Yeah, you know what I mean like I don't know I come in here and it's just loose You know I'm saying breakfast club has a structure too, but it's still looser.  I actually love doing television, but it's just It's a it's a it's a good, um What's the word I'm looking for it's just it's interesting trying to figure out how to still be loose within that Yes, it was in the more like rigid structure. Yeah, and I think that just takes time Yeah, and I think a lot of it has to do with the uh fact that it's a 22 minute show On tv like if it's like mar with mar you just got an hour Yeah, like mar got an hour no commercial so mar is literally doing a podcast Yeah, it feels Yo, and maybe that's why maybe you need a little bit more time So you could stretch out ideas like say boring things because I felt that a little bit too it was just like shells were going to you and It was like, yeah, you got to have some hot shit right there in a moment It's not like this where we're like we could figure it out get there and then all of a sudden We touch on some gold and then we just mind that shit for a minute So maybe more time helps that And I mean don't get me wrong mar's got a structure too.   Yes, you know, so yes Thank you to everybody that tuned in every Thursday night after the daily show 11 30 hell of a week Um, did you see will Smith's apology that guy's a broken man, bro? That's a broken man. I spent the last three months replaying and Understanding the nuances and and the complexities of what happened in in that moment and I'm not going to try to unpack all of that right now, but I can say to All of you there is no part of me That thinks that was the right way to behave In that moment. I can do an imitation I can do that easily I have thoughts about this moment For some time now It has been three months of me reflecting Maybe my impressions aren't that good. You know what's so interesting about what you said you use the right word Which is broken. Yeah, and it's just like I don't think anybody You don't you don't have to allow anybody access to your trauma if you don't want to now The reason this is necessary is because he he he Disrespected chris publicly. Yeah, so it's cool to see this apology You know publicly and cool to see it feeling the wtf. I thought that was a cool. That's what that is.  I didn't need this um But I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm glad he did it. I don't believe it See that's the thing. No, that's it is so fake. Why celebrities can't win for losing, bro You can't where's the charm? He has no charm left Isn't that to be charming buddy's hurt now it's time to be charming He was charming when aliens was attacking America. You can't be charming right now This guy's been charming every single time in history. It's not acting You know the illest thing that he said and it's the bar and it's what he said.  Yes.  Yes, really? Yeah, you could be ashamed You did something bad. You're ashamed It's fine. Shame is good.  No, he's not come on. He's no.  Do you know what I'm saying? Like that same energy when big willy style roll up on you Well, I know We could get jiggy with it if you want well, I'm totally fine with it You ask permission for your wife if you're allowed to come talk to me and then we can get This has permission for your life, bro. It's fine We could tussle our celebrity box. Will Smith. There you go. Whoa, I was celebrity box. Will Smith 100% Why why you want a box? Will Smith because he broke my heart Bring it down. This my hero, man. Jesus Christ. You're doing that on purpose because you know that he don't like letting people down. He broke my heart, bro. No, this is my hero grown up. He had nobody cooler than Will Smith. Will Smith saved America, bro. Why is he still not cool now, though? Look at him, bro. He's dressed like me. Do you know what I'm saying?     What Jaden really going to do? The karate kid. He know martial arts, bro. Hey, listen. Who do you guys take an L to? Jaden or Will. The Smith family about to get two Ls this year now. Let me tell you something. Let's go. Come on. I'll fight Jaden too. Here's the thing. I didn't need the apology, like I said, because I don't think nobody needs access to your trauma. But, you know, he did what he did publicly. So I guess he got to apologize publicly. But yeah, it's something about this that is just like, oh. Now people are learning from it. I'm sure people are inspired by this because his willingness to heal. What is this? In front of people?   But that's how we learned. You're married to a witch. Jesus Christ.  You have almost no humanity left. You're going through a crisis.  Your soul out of your body? Probably why you married him. Coming from a married man. There's nothing I'd like more to be honest with you. Sucks something out. Come on now, please. Please, God. Oh, man. But yes. You have no respect for this apology. None. He felt more remorseful about losing his relationship with Tony Rock. Then he did apologize.  Did you see what he said about Tony? He apologized to Tony because Tony was visibly mad. Tony went on stage. It was like, don't put hands on him. He was upset. And I think apologizing to his mother was very powerful, too. Because his mother, that's her son. And she felt the way. You know what I mean? Bro, he don't have zero empathy. Looking at his apology, it was like, I am forced to do this. By who, though? I don't know. That's what I wanted to know. Here's the thing, will don't have to apologize. Because in a lot of ways, will clean. I would respect Will Moore if he didn't apologize. I would respect, honestly, I would respect Will Moore if he didn't fake apologize. And he was just like, yo, I'm not like y'all. I'm not a comedian. I'm from Philly. Don't talk about my wife. I let you get away with it once. You tried to do it again. That's it. And then you don't get invited to no more award shows. But at least people will go, he has a code. Him going, I was a weak, fragile individual. I couldn't control my emotions. Here's me dressed as Tiger Woods. This is how I am. This pathetic, bro. What if he did, what if he feels like this for real? Double down, bro. What would Trump do? Do what Trump would do. What would Trump do?   This motherfucker is the ghost, son. That is wild. I'm like, I don't care what nobody said. That was not her idea. Not at all, bro. She probably used to complain about him being on the golf course. All the time. All right, watch this. Join me.  I saw somebody say on Twitter, like, relax, relax.  Because you know how I do when you go to these golf places?  But I was like, if he did that, that would be fire. And we respect him more. Will is doing the opposite thing. He's like, how can I get everybody to love me and respect me? We don't respect that shit, bro. I don't think that's what this is. I double down. I think Will, and he said it. Distract on Chris. No, man. Right, distract. I think he has a desire for everybody to love him, which is very unrealistic.  But you know what I'm saying? Like, Will has been the lovable guy since day one. He's never been a hero. He's my hero. Ever. He's my hero. He's my hero. He was the coolest person on the planet to me. I thought he was cool. But I mean, I always thought Will was cool. I like Will. I've grown to love Will. I've always called myself a pinkest midfielder if he knows Carter, but I've actually really grown to love Will in this phase of his life, being the Willy Lama. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? No, I just think that when you were the cool charismatic guy, we were Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Independence Day.  Everybody hated it. I love Wild Wild West. Just he was the coolest, funniest, most thoughtful, charismatic, charming, handsome guy. Very hard to keep up that, though, Schultz. Yeah, of course. Very hard to keep up that appearance, man. You know what I'm saying? Because, and it's funny, we had Chance the Rapper on this weekend. I said the same thing to Chance. Yo, man, you seem like the weight of the image you carry is starting to get to you a little bit. Because there's nobody that can be that good guy all the time. You could be a good person, but we all going to have our moments. Yo. We all got shadows. Like, you know what I mean? We all deal with our shadow selves and we all know our shadow selves. There's nobody that's smiling 24-7, bro. Yo, that is a great point that there's a saying that my boy Kareel has that he puts on all of his merch, but his assholes live forever.   You can actually be a human being. You can be a human in his whole totality. All these motherfuckers that's walking around smiling all the time, oh, goody two shoes. I'm so got the perfect image. That's not real. I care about Jesus.  And you can do that and still feel away. What? There's nothing wrong with loving Jesus, but if your image is tied around Christianity, you're going to have the expectations of Christianity. As soon as they hear you curse one time, they say, oh, my God. They see you drinking some liquor. Oh, my God. And it's because we feel judgment by your perfection. If you're this perfect person and you're going out and preaching perfection, now all of a sudden we feel judged. We go, God, damn, well, I ain't perfect fuck, man.  I've watched Will since that rap radar interview. I've told y'all this before, try to shed the character of Will Smith. And he talks about in his book, he's trying to shed that character. And I'm sure this is not what he wanted to appear. I'm really human. I'm sure this is not what he wanted. This is not what he asked for. But I think sometimes, man, when you're called to serve and your life serves a bigger purpose and people are inspired by you and learn from you, this is sometimes what you got to go through. That's what you got to go through. And guess what? Let's talk about the other side. I'm not mad at Chris for not accepting the apology. Fire.  You got to be like, okay. Fire. Sitting there. You got to wear that. I don't got to wear it. Wear it up. I don't even like when people say they be like, well, you know, you don't forgive people for, you know, you forgive people for yourself, not for them. What if you're not ready to forgive? Yeah.  And what if you have a learning disability where you don't feel anything anyway? So now it's okay. That's right. You just got to sit on that. By the way, that's the other thing. Yeah. Chris, like, I haven't even processed it yet. I haven't even felt it. What? What?  You know what I mean? I think Chris felt this one though. You think? Yeah. It was too big. You know why? Because it was too big of a stage. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. That also, but I also think it like disrupted. It probably also helped, but it disrupted the fact that he just, Chris takes like time to craft his standup. And like years. That's right.  And now he's on stage and everybody wants him to talk about another thing. So it's like, I would resent, I would resent that for sure.   Yeah. And that's why like I hate, I saw this week everybody was talking about, you know, Chris Rock's comments. After the apology, like, oh, you know, he talked about Shilk Smith and he said, you know, if anybody that says words hurt never been punched in the face. I'm like, yo, he's been telling this joke all year, guys.  Like I saw the victimhood joke at the garden last week. Oh, really? Yes. He's been so sad. It's a whole thing about victimhood and how everybody wants to play the victim. The only difference I'm assuming now is that he starts off using him. But no, he doesn't even start off using him. He talks about victimhood and then he goes into, look at me for example, and then that's when he does the whole Shilk Smith thing.   And that's when he's really smart to like bake that into an existing piece. Yeah. Because it feels as if you wrote the whole piece about it but you didn't. Yeah. You worked that out for months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. I just, you know, I appreciate, I'm not gonna say I appreciated Will's apology because I just, I didn't, don't think it's necessary. I just think that he's serving a bigger purpose right now and some people will be inspired by that. You know what would help him on being honest with you right now? A breakfast club interview? No. No, no. And listen, I defer to you with this because it's your show, you don't understand how the people react to it.  Oh, this guy's, we still like, who'd have been like you? I don't like him right now. That's not true. I don't like him right now. And I don't like him. And that's hard for me. I'm the victim. This has hurt me.   This was hard.  That wasn't vulnerability. That was canned garbage. Tuna. That was Tuna. Yeah, that was Tuna. Damn. Tuna. Because you don't have to do it. There was no need for that. Nobody asked for that. That's why I think it, that's why for me it was like, I mean, I feel like it was genuine. That's the other thing about celebrity. I believe more if he went on live. I believe more if he went on live. Jada got a whole like cold drink in the background.  And saying exactly what's happening. You wouldn't think that'd be cool.   People don't want to believe you. No. What celebrity do we believe? Everything seems to be performing. Donald Trump? No way. Come on, bro. I don't believe Trump. You don't believe him, bro? Nah, he's too good. No way.    I believe it. I saw Marjorie Taylor green quote drink yesterday. What she said?  You talking teams? You didn't see that tweet, bro? No fire though. Bro, pull up Marjorie Taylor. Pull up Google Marjorie Taylor green. Marjorie got some sisters on the team.  And she had a picture with Trump?  Oh, Chris thought. I'm like, yo, these motherfuckers are crazy. I'm out of politics. I don't know anything about politics. But yeah, just to put a button on will. I'm tired of us giving people access to our trauma for no reason. You know what I mean? If you're doing it because it's genuinely helping you heal, cool, but it's like, ah, Lord have mercy. You know what I mean? It can't seem too orchestrated.  That's why I think an interview with somebody, especially you, would be really great. Now see, I agree with that. You mean a one-on-one? I mean, look, I think a one-on-one could be great. I'll be honest with you. I think a one-on-one could be great. I think more people around would make him more comfortable. I get what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get what you're saying. It's like having other people that he can tell jokes to and get feedback from and laugh and creating an environment I get what you're saying. I think could be really fun.  Like, I don't know. The sad part about it is, though, if he does that and people will be like, look, he's not even serious. Look at him laughing.  No, no, you always win with humor. You always win with humor. I think so. In my opinion, always with humor. I'm telling you, man, it's hard to be angry at someone who makes you laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's genuinely hard to be angry at a human being who makes you laugh. Who? Who? Who? I haven't seen people chuckling at Bill Cosby lately. I laughed at Bill Cosby ever. Huh? I never laughed at Bill Cosby. You in the Cosby show? No. Really? I didn't watch the Cosby show. Come on. You watched the Cosby show. I didn't watch the Cosby show. I'm familiar with it, obviously, but it wasn't like a part of my life. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, to your point. I was so familiar with Black Excellence by then, I didn't need to see it on TV. Like, I was surrounded by Black Excellence. So when I saw it on TV and I was like, oh, just a doctor? Like, what's, you know, whatever. Like, all my doctors have been black. My whole like, Dr. Dre, the other Dr. Dre. Dr. J? Dr. J? Like, I only knew Black Doctors. This guy is so crazy. Dr. Martin Luther King. Like, all the Black people I knew in my life were doctors. So I was like, this is not like a unique thing. Ugh. To your point, Bill, there was no jokes during that whole time. He didn't even try. He did try to do stand-up for a moment, though. He did stand-up. There was one moment that he did choke. Remember, he's walking blind to the courtroom. And then some of it. In that moment, you're like, man, he ain't do none of that. Right? Like, in that moment for a second, when he made you laugh, you're like, he ain't do none of that. Man, there is something to that. There is something to keeping people distracted with humor or great music. You know what I mean? It's really make them feel. You make them feel something. Make them feel something other than what they would be feeling if all they heard about was the bullshit. Exactly. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. What else we got, Taylor? Wiz Khalifa. Did you see Wiz Khalifa going off on that DJ? Yo, tell me what happened. Because I saw, I think it was Act Post about this. Yeah, I was told that. Also, there's like a Nicki Minaj thing, like with her assistant or something?  Oh, what was it? First of all, this is what scares me about the internet. It's been scaring me about the internet for the past seven, eight years.  The fact that anybody can get online and say something. And if it's entertaining, motherfuckers will run with it. Nobody cares about the truth from the lies when entertaining.  One. When she said that Nicki Minaj owed $170 plus million in taxes over six years. Y'all don't know the IRS. IRS ain't letting you get no $170 million tax bill. That's right.  They'll be repossessing everything from Nicki. They can be on Instagram ballhead. They'll take her wig. I'm serious. They would take everything from her. She would have nothing if she owed $100. $176 million in taxes. Yeah, that's crazy. I need y'all to go look at what people went to jail for in regard to taxes. $5 million, $6 million, $7 million. Ain't that letting you get to know $176 million over six years?   What Nicki said in this video when she was like, every day I get online and I realized more and more how dumb people are. Y'all getting dumber and dumber. My God. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Do you know how much $176 million in taxes is? Yeah. Yeah, that much. Yeah. You know how much you would have to make? Yeah, you got to make double, bro. Probably triple to owe that? Oh, to owe meaning you didn't pay it. And you think that she would just be out here. We never heard about Nicki having no IRS. Since when has the IRS been quiet? Oh, I didn't know that's what it was about. That's where it started.  Got you. $176 million in taxes. Yes, a lot. Wiz Khalifa? Yes. What I was told was that Wiz went off on the DJ because Wiz got a new album out. And he was telling the DJs to play his new music. Mind you, this is just hearsay for them. And DJ Envy told me this. He said it on the air this morning. Wiz was telling them to play his new music.  And then when they started playing the new shit, they kept playing the records on top of each other. And so Wiz got upset because he didn't want his music presented in that way. And what I like about this is the fact that you see like the whole DJ community rallying around these DJs saying like, Wiz, if you would have did that to me, we'd have been fighting in all types of shit, right? Uh-huh. That's what I want to see because I want to know what DJ thinks they can beat Wiz Khalifa. Yeah, Wiz got hands feet. He's in shape. I want to see. No disrespect to the DJs, but you know, y'all are not the most in shape people. Yeah. I want to see. I just want to see. I want to see what would happen if, if Wiz did this. Plus, we talk about the benefit of the doubt, right? We don't, we've never seen Wiz act like this. Yeah. So you got to give him the benefit of the doubt, right? Uncharacteristic of him. Yeah, this is not. He's so professional. Every time I met him, he's so professional. You wouldn't reduce him to his worst moment, right? No. Okay. Well, is it more entertaining for the podcast listeners? In that case, I would. Whatever, whatever keeps the good people at home entertained. Okay. Exactly. I got you. So let's do a quick calculation. Okay. And then carry on in that way. Do we have audio of him yelling at the DJ? That's always fun to watch. Let's insert that. Taylor, please. But to, to, to defend him. Every time I've interacted with him, and that's only been a couple of times, he's been incredibly professional. Yeah. Wiz is a good dude. That's what I'm saying. But when I see people like Wiz or Will do things like this and we know that's not their character, you got to give them the benefit. Yeah. But don't, don't compare those two. It's kind of the same thing. Is it? I mean. They're physical acts of violence. That's my point. Like Wiz threatened to do it. And it was a lot of talk. And Salute the Wiz, but it was a lot of talking. Will ain't do no talking. Do we have audio? I need to see. Are you saying that Wiz is cap? Like he's actually not. I ain't saying he cap. I'm just saying like, let's hear it, Taylor. Come on, Taylor. Big Taylor. Back it up, Tay. Back it up, Tay. Oh, that's kind of corny, bro. Oh, son of like that. Yeah, that's corny.  I didn't know he was that album. Yeah, me neither. I think that's probably why he's frustrated. Hold on one second. That's Trap's song?   That's not Trap's song? All right, that's enough. So we don't know what happened in him in his day. And yes, we shouldn't reduce you to your worst moment. Obviously, I would imagine that he's remorseful of like treating another person like that and embarrassing them publicly. You know, he's in a position of power. Where's the apology? Absolutely.   All right. And motherfucking give us your apology. Yo, we need that. Are we over apologies? Double down, bro. I don't believe in apologizing. It's a big issue in my marriage. Never? No, no, I actually apologize quite a lot in my marriage. But outside of that, I don't believe in apologizing for what people think you did. I only believe in apologizing for what you believe. I'm with that. I said that on the radio this one.  You know what I mean? Like you got to let people just believe what they want to believe. Think what they want to think. If I unintentionally offended you, I apologize. You know what I mean? But it's just like, yo, people are bowing down for no reason.  Y'all got Beyonce changing words in her songs now. And you know what I just realized today? This is people over in the UK. What did she say? Spaz!  What is a spaz? She said spaz. Spaz it out in the song. We spaz and we spaz and she used it in this proper context. And this is what bothers me about that spaz word. What's wrong with spaz? Chris, come here. Chris said ablest. I never knew spaz was a slur until I saw people complaining about it towards Lizzo. But here's also the thing. Spaz is a word. So it's easy to go after Beyonce. It's easy to go after Lizzo. Go after Webster's, bro.   So wait, you're saying- Go after the sources. If a word is in the dictionary, then everybody should be able to say it? No. What I'm saying is words matter.  If people use n-word in this proper context, the proper context of the n-word is racism. Dummy. We turned it into a slang term for endearment. What is spaz? I don't understand that. I'm going to ask Webster's. Let's ask Webster's. Oh, my song? What's my song? My song? Uncle Joe made my dress. Spaz means to lose physical or emotional control. He offered a post-game assessment. I spazed out real bad. That's what spaz means. Spaz also means to move in an awkward or clumsy way. Are she spazed out? We had broken glass all over the floor. Spaz in the urban dictionary means either a male or female who can be overdramatic, moody, weird, quirky, flamboyant, annoying, suggestive, passionate, passive, aggressive. Alex just sent one, but of course Alex sent the slang term. And American slang, the term spaz is evolved from a derogatory description of people with disabilities, which I never knew it was. Did you ever know that? No, I thought it was just a person acting a little wacky. Listen, what we used to call people with disabilities, they also banned that word too. And then we stopped using that word because they say that was offensive, even though that is also in the dictionary as well. Did we stop using that? What? Publicly? Well, what are we supposed to call retards? Here's the thing, we never actually call people who have disabilities there. Oh, I'm not talking about them. Yeah.  Never. That's the whole point. That's the point.  That's enough. You know. Hey, what do we know? Same with spaz. No, it's not the same with spaz. Spaz is not bad. Spaz is generally understood as a casual word for clumsiness. Yeah. You know, sometimes associated with over-excitability. Yeah, when I spaz on the mic. I spaz on the mic. You know what I mean? When I come through these podcasts, I spaz on the mic. Excitement, startle the response. Yeah, let me hear how she says it. Either way, she used it in the proper context. Dad, I know. Uh, hot sauce in my bag. Spaz. He did. Uncle Joe, he made my dress.   How does she go? How does she say? That cheap spandex you wear is a mess.  What was that? What? You ain't even hear spaz. No. That's my point. I was singing this song all morning. I had no idea she said spaz in this record until I got to the radio station.  And I'm like, for what? No. Words matter, bro. Well, what is she going to say instead? What is she going to say? What is she going to say? What is she going to say? I don't know what she's going to say. You have no idea? I have no idea. You have no idea? Absolutely no idea that you have. She's going to say Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. That's what she's going to say. All I'm simply saying is if you use a word in this popular context, how can it be offensive? Well, well, well now. Uh, uh.  Oh, is that crazy? It's a dance album. It's like, and I like the, I listen. Y'all know I don't even like Drake's music. No, but that I spazz out on that last one. No, honestly, I thought he spazzed on that song. Sticky bro. Bro. I was spazzing, dude. Word. I almost had an or spasm, dude.  Dude, can you have an or spasm? Or spasm. Is that allowed? Wow. Is that a real thing? Or spasm. Is that allowed or not? The old spasm is wow. But I just think that words matter. And if you use a word in this proper context, it should not be considered offensive. Yeah. And we all got to be smarter. Are there self identifying like spaz people? Like, did they, did they call themselves? Is there a spaz community in my life? Huh? No, right? I don't think so. So that's my point. And we're doing this because of people in the UK? Because people in the UK are complaining about Beyoncé and Lizzo's music. Okay. So I need some Americans from the LGBT community to go over there and tell them to change the name of their goddamn cigarettes.  That's fact. Somebody saying I'm spazzing on a record. They said, fat. That's it. Okay. Just like that. Oh my God. Let's pay some bills. Hot sauce in my bag. Spaz. Yeah. That's what you gotta say from now on. Hot sauce in my bag. Spaz is wild. Real talk. I'm spazzing out. By the way, don't you wish Beyoncé would have double down, not double down, but just simply like, can we have a real conversation? Beyoncé don't need to talk to y'all. She's changing the lyric. She don't even need to talk to y'all. Like just put out the song. You know you're going to dance with regards.  Yeah. It's crazy.  How about you do that? That's right. How about y'all do that? Change up some of them lyrics. That's right. Weirdos in the UK. That's right.  Context matters. And by the way, I will respect y'all. I will respect everybody that's leading this movement. I will respect y'all when y'all go after the dictionary. Yo. Go after West. Can I be honest with you right now, bro? I'm going to go handle this in the UK, bro. What do you mean? I'm going to do something about this.   I'm not joking, Charlotte. If you're going to spaz with somebody, spaz with Beyoncé, yo. I'm spazzing for Beyoncé. I'm not playing around, bro. I see. You look serious.  You're ready to go. You're ready to go, bro. You are ready to let it go.  I'm going to UK to spaz, okay? I didn't even know it was Nyla because she was wearing a dress. Oh, Lord. Nyla don't know if she's Nyla when she's wearing a dress. Big NYLA. You know this already. How do you feel about spazzing on people? I don't think she has to change the word. Thank you. But I don't think you got to go spaz on people. I'm going to the UK to spaz on these blokes. Do what you got to do. You can do that.  Facts.  Facts, bro. How can you recognize my race? I didn't know I was talking about my strength. Why are you showing off these niggas? Oh, that's fine. Who got them for you? You need to get that Brittany Griner, that Russia prison-issued Brittany Griners. Well, I don't think she's got a shoe. They do. Oh, it's a slipper, yeah. Oh, man. What do you think about the proposed Brittany trade, bro? That was a... Okay, we'll do ads and come back. All right. Salute to Audible. Audible, man. You know that myself and Kevin Hart, we got SBA productions. And last week, we put out the audio documentary that explores two unprecedented events that rocked the Philadelphia in the summer of 85. And that's the name of the project, created by New York Times best-selling author Chris Murrow and narrated by Philly native Kevin Hart. Chris is outside. Chris don't even look right on TV sets. Did you see Chris on Goddamn Good Morning America talking about summer of 85? Yeah, dude. He looked super imposing, dude. He looked like... Did you see him? No. I saw him post a picture of it. It didn't look real, dude. No, it didn't look real, bro. It didn't look real. It was weird, right? Why was it so weird? I don't know. It looked like he was on Zoom, but he was there. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Big Zoom energy, bro. Big Zoom energy. B-Z-E. Big Zoom energy. You got that B-Z-E, Chris. Big Zoom energy. But summer of 85 digs deep into what happened when the city's first black mayor, Mary Wilson, Good dropped a bomb literally on the headquarters of a radical group called Move. And two months later... He spazzed on him, bro. ...hosted Live Aid. He did. No, he really did. He spazzed on him. The international concert Live Aid was the raised funds for African famine victims. Move was a controversial Philadelphia-based organization led by John Africa that promoted a back-to-nature lifestyle and anti-government rhetoric. Live Aid was a first-of-its-kind benefit concert that bought in millions of dollars for famine victims in Ethiopia and changed how the world raised and distributed money. Okay? Separated by two months and eight miles, these events revealed the best and worst of the city of Brotherly Love a combustible mix of power, philanthropy, and prejudice. Okay? Featuring interviews with people who directly experienced the events like Bob Geldof... Geldof? Bob Geldof, Daryl DMC McDaniels, Mike Africa, Jr. and the Queen, who I love dearly, Miss Patti LaBelle. Okay? You can hear it exclusively on Audible. Listen now at audible.com slash summer of 85. That's audible.com slash summer of 85. How's the reception been, Chris? Really? Like, fulfilling for you as a creator? Come on in, Mike. Chris, can you talk? Come on. Come torque that thing one time, Chris. People like when you came and bent over the... But take the mask all the way off, please. Please, Jesus Christ. Also, I know why I look weird on the TV set. Why? I didn't realize some guy came over. It's a little weird. Well, she saw that. Well, like... This outfit fired, though. You like that? Hell, yeah. Yeah. Chris outside, bro. He's doing it, bro. He was hitting us with the coffee. He was like... You saw him, bro? You saw him?  I like this. But why? You thought you looked weird? So when I sat down, some guy came and whispered something in my ear and pointed to a little piece of red tape, like under the desk. And I realized what he meant afterwards was put your hands there. But I didn't know. So I had my hands under the desk the entire time. Oh, so you look like a puppy. No, you were beating me. Is that what it was? I might have forgotten. But the guy, you know, he was using his hands when he talked. But the entire time, I just had my hands under the desk. So you say the reception has been good. How do you gauge that? You know, the articles have been good. I had... I don't think you were there, but I had like an incredible talk with Kevin at that photo shoot the other day where... Kevin? Yeah, Kevin Hart. Oh, Hart. Hart, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like... Listen, I do... This is what I do for a living. I create content. I tell stories. And there's a story that really has been like researched and told the right way. And this is one of them. I'm just like really proud of how this came out. So I was like, you know, like, that meant something. Yeah. That was kind of a moment. And just also like, I think the other gauge is just kind of getting the reaction from people from Philadelphia since they know the story probably more than most people. And, you know, I think the most important thing is people feel like it's fair and balanced to use a phrase. So it's been fantastic. And salute to Zola too, man. Zola Masheriki. You know, Zola... Basically, she's the big boss at Audible. She's the head of Audible Studios. And she actually posted on her personal Facebook page where she doesn't do a lot. Yeah, that's all that. She'd be doing it all day long because think about all the projects that they put out through Audible. And she really, really, really, really, really loved Summer 85. You know what I mean? And she was like, man, just the correlation between Live Aid and, you know, the bombing of the Move organization. That was something that a lot of people would never put two and two together on. And she really, really, really, really, really dug the project. So that was big. I was like, damn, like Zola posted about that on her personal Facebook page. That was amazing. You know? So that's big. She's literally the head of Audible Studios. You know what I mean? So salute to Zola. Everybody go get Summer 85 on Audible right now. 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Those two weeks are absolutely incredible. I'm really most proud of... Well, most probably was successful for sure, and the reception of it. But also that we made a comedy pay-per-view event at a time where comedy specials go up on a streaming platform and they're either ignored or forgotten about. And not only do we have a comedy pay-per-view event where everybody's watching the thing at the same time, tweeting about it and creating a conversation. That conversation lasted for two weeks. So, for two weeks, people talked about a comedy piece, and that just doesn't happen right now. Like, we held attention.  Thank you so much for everybody who supported it. It means the world to me, and I'm just really grateful right now. Now it's going to become almost like a legendary thing that either you saw or you didn't see. And if you have it, you actually got something rare. You know what I mean?  But it's more authentic than an NFT because it's actually a real piece, a real body of art. So, that's amazing. I want to tell everybody, go get their tickets for the Black Effect podcast festival. BlackEffect.com slash podcast festival is happening Sunday, August 28th at the Mirage in Brooklyn. We got some of your favorite podcasts performing live, 85 South Show, Horrible Decisions, Reasonably Shady. And it's hosted now by the good sister, Jess Hilarious, because you know, our guy, a little Duvall, he had a really bad accident that, you know, he is bouncing back from and the way that Duvall could. Duvall is not letting him hold it down. Like he is, Beyonce made, you can't break my soul for people like little Duvall. I always feel like he's excited that it happened so he could prove he's really about that smile, bitch life. Bro, let me tell you something. Duvall FaceTime me today it happened. And we joke so much. It took me at least five, six minutes to realize, oh, he not playing. I thought he was on the set of a movie. I'm not even joking. He was laying on the scratcher. He had the neck band around his neck and he was sitting there.   What happened exactly? He got hit by a... He got hit by a... He was on his four-wheeler and got hit by a car. He's on his four-wheeler. He's turning into his house. There's a car behind him that tried to get around the four-wheeler, went the way that he was turning in. So it was just horrible timing. You never know. And then boom.   You might have to have surgery on his wrist. Yeah, he had his hip replaced. He has to do surgery on the wrist.  I'm not sure. Lacerations all over. Well, I thought he was playing. He's on the phone.     You want me to train a troop? I'm joking, right? And he just starts saying all kinds of things.  I'm like, what are you talking about? Right? Because I had no idea he was like actually hurt. And then when I could see because I saw the blood and then I saw the doctors.    Like life is just one long process. That's why I don't even believe in good or bad. Good or bad. It's just so-called good. So-called bad. It's just all a process. He's just going through a process right now. So Suhtar Ghadriwal, he won't be hosting, but Jesse Larry will be hosting. And make sure you go get your tickets for the Black Effect podcast festival Sunday, August 28th. We got Mouse Jones there doing trap karaoke. We're going to have food. We're going to have drinks. We got a business and podcasting panel. We got a woman and podcasting panel. It's going to be some really, really fun shit, man. And make sure you tune into Hell of a Week every Thursday at 11.30 PM on Comedy Central.  Because I don't, you know, anything can happen. We got a great show for you this week. Yes. Yes. So let's get back into the show. What else we got, Taylor Gang? Man, let pastors make money, bro. Like I don't know why we still even have that conversation. Why can't pastors and bishops make money?  That's why you mad at your local pastor. Okay. You ain't mad at rappers. You ain't mad at singers. Like, how did, I think he provides a service. That's right. I don't know what Nila just said. Nila, what did you just say? I said rappers don't really make as much money as people think they got. So that's why we're not really mad at them. People don't know that. But pastors provide a service. Why can't they get paid for providing a service? What do they provide? They provide faith every Sunday. There's still positive energy and empowerment in the people. Like they make you feel like you can get through life. And by the way, these people have dedicated their life to speaking the message of the Lord. Why can't they get paid for that? No. Why can't they get paid for that? Real quick. They can't get paid. Anyone could be a bishop though. You know that, right? You could be one, you could be one, everything else. Why are you not one? I don't want to be one. And I don't believe everybody can be a bishop. You just go online. Nobody in this room can preach like Bishop T.D. Jigs. That man is anointing. Of course. But someone like... What's his name? What's his real name? I've never heard him preach. He might be fire.  I've never heard him preach. I don't know. I've never heard him preach. I've never heard him preach. It isn't a preacher thing though. You can be in a rap room. You can be in a preacher. You can be in a preacher. What about this? It is true that pastors should be able to make an income. But if you are following the gospel, the gospel says that you shouldn't have all these luxuries. Where did you say that at? It literally says it. Wait, wait, wait. Show me. I see the Bible telling you that you should... No, it's like you should live humbly. You should... You can be humble and a phantom. You ain't got to tell nobody you got it.   No, he said this is my prayer closet. That's what he's saying. All right, but specifically... Am I making this up? He said this is my prayer closet. But he wasn't showing it all. He wasn't like, this is my Gucci. This is my Louis. He said this is my prayer closet. He just happened to have the Gucci and Louis in there. Y'all got jealous because y'all don't got a closet for the Gucci and Louis. But if you gave your life to the Lord, you might have some tailor gang. You ever thought about that?  Maybe you should be a pastor.  Philippians... I'm about to say Filipinos. Filipinos 419 says, And my God will supply all your needs according to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus. Like the Bible don't say nothing about being broke. I don't know where y'all got that from. The Bible talks about wealth and riches so much throughout it. We didn't say that it talks about... It never says you should be broke. It says you shouldn't be bragging about... That's all it says! No, that's all we said. We didn't say anything about being broke. I haven't seen a man brag yet. And then also, sure, anybody can find a Bible verse to be in favor of what they believe. The same way you just pulled those, I could pull two saying the exact opposite. Pull it, pull them then. I don't feel like it. Yeah, I hate when motherfuckers do that. Don't say you can do something if you can't do it. I'm getting pulled right now. Pull it up. You text the car? Pull it up. All I'm simply saying is, be humble. That's all we want. If the guy wasn't stuntin', you wouldn't care. You don't have any pastors make money throughout the country and they deserve it. You know who else should make money? Teachers. How come y'all don't tithe in the office for teachers? You know who else should be making money? Police officers and firefighters. How come y'all don't tithe in the office for them? Y'all don't respect y'all public servants. That's the problem with y'all generation. Y'all don't even... You learn from y'all. Y'all don't either. What have you done for teachers? When I didn't have millions of dollars, I still did what I could. When's the last time you've donated to a person that does service? Seriously now, I'm not joking. I haven't donated financially, but I'll donate my time in knowledge. How? Tell me how. Because that matters too. How? No, I've done spend like a girl where I taught kids how to... Well, young girls how to DJ. That's not donating the pub... I'm talking about the people that are actually doing their service now. I'm talking about our nurses, our doctors, our teachers, our police officers, military veterans, military veterans. Oh, I give money to vets on the street all the time. Okay. My dad's, you know, retired 27 years. That's good. Here's the problem that nobody... Here's the thing that nobody wants to admit.  And it don't matter who it is that has, everybody gets jealous and envious of people. Yeah, that's why you have to be careful what you show. Yes.  When I was in Morocco, you couldn't see wealth on the outside of the world. All the wealth is on the inside. The houses were... I think it's called like a riyadh or whatever like that. Behind the walls. Exactly, behind the walls. Because they knew.  That's crazy. That's right. That's right. So I do understand. Like Adam Sandler is still dressing like a toddler. Because he's probably scared to flex. No, because he knows that he won't be relatable to the people that watch his movies if he's out here acting his wage.   Can I tell you something? I don't know if you felt this, but when you don't have money, you love flexing. No, I've never been like that. When, at least for me, when you don't have money, you love flexing because you're like, you want to show what you don't have. The second you get some real money, the urge to flex isn't there because the ego is satisfied.  Now I don't have to showcase all these people on Instagram how rich I am because you know you are. That's an interesting thought.  You're trying to dress it into existence. Yes. You're faking it so you make it and then you make it.  Do you know what I'm saying? Now that I might be able to afford it, I'm like, I would never waste money on a private jet.  You know what's so interesting? I don't think the ego is fueled by what you have. I think when you have and you're satisfied with that and you don't care about showcasing it to anybody, that just shows how secure you are with yourself because you're not seeking validation of others. I think a lot of times people want people to know, I got this and I got that because they're really seeking validation from other people. 100%. And I think there's something about maybe reaching like a success level for yourself that makes you go, okay, well, I don't care as much how these people feel about it. It's a cool moment to get to but I do admire like if you look at the really rich people. Yeah. I'm not talking about regular rich. I'm talking about wealth.  You don't even know it. Ain't got nothing on. They might have a watch that you don't even know about. There's some crazy amount of money, but you have no even clue. That's right. There's no diamonds encrusted all over it. My dad told me that when I was mad young, he was like, you see that dude right there?  Like it would be a regular black dude.  And I always had that mentality like, oh, when you got it, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to flaunt it. Yeah. It's when you don't really have it is when people Then you want to flaunt it. They want to fake it till they make it, which I think is actually ridiculous. Yeah.   Yeah.  We want love. We criticize. We want to be told we're great. When we really just want them to be like, hey, you're really awesome. We're weird. You know, it's crazy. And listen, there's plenty of pastors who use God, you know what I mean? To come up and make money often.   Us.  What do we do? We're like, what do we do? We do what we do. We're like, Oh, you mean like, I think. Think about how crazy America is.  Right now. Right now. Yes, what are you doing? Right now.  Oh, what are we going to do about teaching should be making mad money. Yes. But think about that. America does not reward them military veterans should not be homeless in this country, but America does not reward them But motherfuckers like us who talk shit for living can make millions of dollars. Yeah I'm not knocking it cuz I'm one, but I'm just I'm just simply saying that there's something weird about that You understand I'm saying Chris. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm sorry. Sorry Jeremiah 923 Thus says the Lord let not the wise man boast in his wisdom Let not the why let not the mighty man boast in his might let not the rich man boasts in his riches James 4 16 17 but now you boast and brag and all And all such boasting is evil It is a sin when someone knows the right thing to do and then doesn't do it So I'm 59 12 13 because of the sins from their mouths and the words of their lips Let them be trapped in their own arrogance because they speak curses and lies destroy them in your rage Destroy them until not one of them is left then they will know that God rules Jacob to the ends of the earth It proves your point it talks about just don't boast. Yeah, have it. Nobody said don't have there's don't be both Don't boast don't brag. Yeah, I think with this guy and specifically though I understand what you're saying in general He's probably not the best example because he has been accused of stealing money from the people in his church He's been to jail for identity fraud in the past. He can't change his life He went to jail he came home. He can't change his life Okay, let me ask you a question. What biggie big do you believe in Kirk Frank? Do you believe in Kirk Frank? There's a righteous man. I believe he's a human.  No, I'm just asking do you believe because we saw him curse out his son crazy that don't make me look at him any different That's two different things He cursed somebody out I saw video cursing somebody out too I don't know what y'all talking about. I think that y'all hating on this man And I don't I've never heard the man preach I don't know nothing about him other than what we've seen in the past two weeks But this man is not boasting that man.   I'm about to donate to this man. Yeah, y'all got me wanting me to donate to this man church Come on man. Come on Matthew six one.  I really don't know what the argument was argument I'm like oh the sky's blue. He'd be like, but water water makes great Main thing was this one women do when they lose an argument. They'd be like it's just cuz you're too good argument It's cuz you're right. This is cuz you're right We still can't be right We just better at arguing the wrong thing The main thing was about is it a certain type of it's okay for The bishop to get money how he is But he never showed off he did not go in his closet and say look at all this stuff I got a video of him pulling up in a little orange. Yeah, there's a but he didn't say this is my arm again He's driving a car. No, no, no, he did it as part of like a promo thing. He was driving his car On camera on camera was driving his car What are you talking about?  Okay. I didn't see the pastor say Look at my Lamborghini. You came in there.  Yeah, I didn't him not one say he had a Lambo We need him on the pod People are giving him Offerings and everything else right we would think he's using that for something else not all this designer stuff That's what makes it uncomfortable. Yes. Why man Good example is the Black Lives Matter movement and how every time she buys a home Twitter gets in the uproar because it's like, well, what are we donating for if you live in a mansion speaking about two things that don't go together It's a thing man. Jesus had lambs fish and white hand got lamb All right.  Give me some asking this Taylor And let's get up out of here and he ain't no path for no reason Movement why you guys hate on that?  They don't want to pass to the prey form because they For real you gotta chill out man Taco Slayer says what is your definition of love? To me it's sacrifice. What is your definition of love shows? Yep Yeah, it's sacrifice for sure. You think so. I think there's sacrifice in it. What is my definition of love love? Yeah, I think it's like just like selflessness You know, it's like That's a great question. What is what is my definition of love? Hmm. I don't know Love is an interesting thing. It's like it's this feeling that you have where you want to do things for another person You want that person to be happy and their happiness is so Integral to your own happiness and like you just want to give them the world you want to provide for them You want to support them? Yeah, it's just this feeling where like kind of your your behavior towards this other person is Like instinctually The same as your behavior for like yourself and your family And I think yeah, that's when I know that I really love Sometimes it's stronger than what you have for your family. Yeah. Well, cuz yeah, yeah, you're making your new one Yeah, my yeah, I had a homegirl back in the day. She told me that You don't know what love is until you have kids When you have kids if you love your significant other the way you love your kids, then you love Oh, that's cool. And I feel that I really do I really really do feel that I don't I mean Honestly, I couldn't give you what a definition of love is I guess tricky It's just something you feel but I do know you can't feel it for others if you don't genuinely feel it for yourself Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's why like I Think that's why you see Love and music and you see love and art so much because oftentimes we go to art and we go to music to describe feelings that we have that We can't actually articulate so like a song makes you go. Oh my god. Yeah, that that song makes me feel the things That's what I was gonna say like the emotion in music to me is almost more powerful than yeah the relationships I have between people. Yeah, that that's I don't know that I think Ethan Hawke said this somewhere But I think that's the idea of like art is like arts not necessary until you can't describe How sad you are or until you can't describe how happy you are how in love you are how excited you are And then there's a piece of art There's a piece of music that you either look at her like you consume and you're like or there's a movie watching like Oh, that's the feeling that I have they figured it out And they put it in a place where I can relate to and digest that that is the important thing what I can't say Yeah, and the power of spoken word is so powerful, bro Whether it's music whether it's comedy whether it's Radio podcast whether it's pastors. Yeah, like the power of spoken word is literally what moves us all Like everything. Yeah, even when you're looking for that right quote or that right You know it's there thing to say in a moment like it's somebody that has said it that captures it 100% man What else we got telegame Not really Let me see what else we got Now this is a good one Mehdi D. Menon says what's something that didn't make sense to you can end on this one What's something that didn't make sense to you as a kid that makes even less sense now I got a million of these I feel like um Why why women and men sound different? Like dog male dogs and and female dogs Just sound the same right like To you Oh To you dogs will be able to distinguish the barks. Yeah, you know that for a fact. I do not So your dogs can can hear it like a growl from a girl dog. Oh, that's a girl growling.  We're all humans, right? But you're still andrew I'm linar. Just chris. You know, you don't think name cows. They name cattle. They really don't they don't care Enough to name them.   Yeah You wouldn't even ask the animals if that's what they want to be called. Oh So it makes less sense to me now as an adult Also, uh, when your parents used to like when school used to be back in about to be back in and be like practice going to sleep early for school And you're like, what? They was just trying to get it popping. That's it.  I mean that didn't make sense to me there That don't make sense to me now What i'll tell my kids what when you want them to go to better when you tell that go to my tail Oh, I was I was running with the pink eye lie all last week because I We had like two kids with the pink eye in my house between my seven-year-old and my three-year-old And they were acting so difficult with the drops, bro So what'd you say? I started you gonna go blind I went from blind to your eyes won't fall out because they were not listening, bro In the funny part about seven-year-olds and three-year-olds. They know better My eyes ain't falling out.  That was the answer That's all we got. We good. I think we good baby. I think we're good, man As always if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent You think we're brilliant.   Thank you for listening


Just looking at a good thread here on YouTube by Melissa Chen, not wearing a mask, outright denying vaccines preemptively, and refusing to abide by social distancing guidelines are slowly becoming badges of honor and signaling devices for a growing contingent. Too eager to show off their special status as non-sheepel. It's a new woke. America's cultural psychology is antithetical to swimming with the tide of conformity, especially when promoted by fiat or authority. Sure, it keeps us from succumbing to tyranny, but overdoing it backfires, just like when an overactive immune system backfires with allergies. Pandemic conditions are precisely when radical individualism may sometimes not be adaptive. What we need is recognition that in these circumstances, communitarianism may be more adaptive. It's a philosophy that emphasizes the connection between the individual and the community. The virus makes it clear that we are not isolated individuals living in vacuums. We are all potential vectors. It's time that we act like it, or we're not going to overcome this. All this is to say that, yes, Mr. Pence should have worn a mask at Mayo. It's a hospital, and he is the vice president. If we adopt a more communitarian mindset in the first place, then it's less likely the government have to legislate these new norms into the books. For those who value personal responsibility so much, surely they can see the connection between that and freedom. Perhaps the media did this. Perhaps they took things out of context, pushed half the population to not believe what they were told. Science and facts don't mean anything anymore when you don't know which source is truthful. The mainstream media could tell me that water is wet, and I'd have to check this their sources. So suppressing free speech in a confusing time like this seems a particularly maladaptive strategy. Eric Kaufman, author of the book White Shift tweets, Scottish politicians are debating a bill that is a grave threat to free expression, promising to criminalize opinions that offend groups sacralized by the identity left. Marco Corian talks about moratorium interruptus. Last week's immigration pause was something of a dud, but the president suggested a second order might be on the way. Here are some ideas for a pause 2.0 essay in American greatness, moratorium interruptus. Study. When a provocatively dressed woman left the room, women assigned to this condition laughed at her and ridiculed her appearance when the same woman was dressed conservatively. The women greeted her in a friendly manner and none discussed her when she left. Elon Musk tweeted March 19, based on current trends probably close to zero new cases in the United States by the end of April. So Elon Musk, not a super forecaster. We had now a long list of dropouts on the distant right. Millennial woes are just the latest. We've also had Katie McHugh, Chuck Johnson, Pac Stinkson, Marcus Halberstram, Josh Neal, Brundle Fly, Kyle Bristo, who is Richard Spencer's lawyer, Teela Tequila, Tara McCarthy, Frame Games. Frame Games is the biggest loss. Patrick Chauvinick tweets, I think before social media, we were just insulated from each other's true awfulness. 65% of Americans want to stop all immigration. Donald Trump, it's time to expand the ban. Did you have your copy of Dave Rubin's new book? No, but I know there's a new book out, Biography of Lucy Davidowitz, who was scorned by historians but had a huge popular following. I might read that. Nathan Coffinus retweets something about police in Central China's Wuhan, arrested eight people for spreading rumors. Rumors of COVID-19. Nathan Coffinus tweets, purveyors of unpopular truth untreated much better in the West, but reality always catches up with us in the end. So, here's a professor at the University of Chicago, Scott Ashworth. Professional ethics question. When you see apparently respectable members of your profession interacting with someone who is both a graduate student in the discipline and a Steve Saylor and Neil Kierkegaard fanboy, how do you respond? Nathan Coffinus, I think it's problematic that you interacted with professors who interacted with a student who didn't disavow Steve Saylor and Neil Kierkegaard doesn't that technically make you alt-right? The professor says this is not a hypothetical. Russell Warren, easy. Encourage and join in the free dialogue so that correct ideas and theories can chase away flawed theories. That depends. As an academic, your duty bound to do whatever will increase your status in the local petty academic political environment. If murdering them both will garner you more grants, publications, awards, and appointments, then your correct course is clear. Scott Ashworth continues, they are interacting on Twitter where those beliefs are visible. Nothing that you even raise the question suggests you're not the right person for the roles described in your bio. So, what he does is he mentors PhD students. Perhaps you should intensely study the writings of Saylor and Kierkegaard to understand why graduate students would prefer reading their work to yours. I hope that the University of Chicago doesn't smile on faculty members bullying students. Wait, isn't there something called the Chicago statement or some such? Wouldn't that be relevant to your situation? So, yeah, I've got a lot of sound foam up. It's very incomplete, but eventually cover the whole room in sound foam. Tell them to hook you up with the verboten literature. Summer start is cool, bro. Start by constructing an unassailable philosophical defense of guilt by association and ad hominem attacks. Tell an adult immediately be safe. Someone such as you should really make a comprehensive list of who is and who is not, we are not allowed to talk to. Surely this will advance learning. You can call the NKVD to shoot him. Could you translate this? Scott Ashworth says this graduate student is a fan boy of Steve Saylor and his work is shoddy statistics about race. You should take a deep breath and ask yourself if it's possible that you are the problem.  Citations and accepted research articles are a better reference of academic relevance, simply having a desk at a university. Richard Lynn, for example, is hunted like a witch during the Salem trials. His emeritus title was even taken from him, yet he has 10,000 citations. He's one of the most cited psychologists alive. Burn the witch. Maybe you mind your own business and stop worrying about who is interacting with whom. I'm more concerned how you sleep at night given that you are a faculty member at an undoubtedly white supremacist institution like the University of Chicago. Instead of trying to virtue signal on Twitter, why not step down and let a person of color take up the space you are currently monopolizing? I see people with different opinions to me. How do I respond? Take a deep breath, try to lower your heart rate. Try to eat more vegetables, fruit, clean meat, and remember to stay hydrated. Stay active. Make sure to work out at least three times a week. If this fails, seek professional help. Professional ethics question. When you see apparently respectable members of your profession, suggesting there should be no interactions with someone they disagree with on ideological grounds, how do you respond? And mining your own business works as well. So I've got Ashworth here, University of Chicago. He's a professor and director of the PhD program in political economy and democracy. He wants to know how to respond to someone who's a fan of Steve Saylor because there's not much of a line between criticizing and demonizing. Strong norm against demonizing different views would be likely to chill free speech. So former Harvard Medical School Dean says scientists who express different views on COVID-19 should be heard not demonized. Let's hear scientists with different COVID-19 views not attack them. This is from the former Dean of Harvard's Medical School. Okay, bye-bye.


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Time here from Orange Systems and I'm going to cover how to set up the intrusion detection system Snort on PF Sense. But this tutorial also applies to Saracada as well because they work mostly the same. And if you want to know the differences that's out of scope of this video, but I'll leave an article down below that dives into the details of what makes one different than the other. But as I said, they're mostly the same. Now, once we go through the setup, which is the easy part, I'll be covering how to tune the rules, what the CPU demand is in different situations, and just how effective Snort or Saracada is here in 2023. So let's get started. Now the first step is going to the package manager and making sure Snort is installed and is the latest version. So we have it right here. Now we're going to go up here. Now that's installed and go to services and then Snort. If for some reason Snort's not installed, you'll just install it under the available packages. From there, we're going to go to global settings. This is where you can decide which rule set you want. You can get a free account and get your own code and get the free rules or the more up to date paid rules. This just takes you to their site and explains the different tiers of rules and how much they cost. If you want to buy them, they are all provided by Talos security, the people who also maintain Snort under here, we can click to download the free GPL rules. And then we can click to download the emerging threat rules. And we can keep going down and click these here. This is the open app ID detector. And this package contains application signatures required for app ID preprocessor. Click here to enable download of the tracker botnet rules. And then we'll say let's update every 12 hours. It has an update start time. And you can pick which time that works for you. Or if you have a specific time that you would prefer it to run, you just change it right here. We're going to hide the deprecator rule categories because why show them? And then we're going to set the remove blocked host interval to one hour as opposed to never. If you leave it at never any IP that attacks you when you put this in blocking mode will forever be on that list. And that IP may get recycled and may be important. And then chasing that down later can be a problem. Maybe your tolerance says a day is good, or maybe it's seven days. Generally, I find because you may end up with some false positives start out at one hour because you may accidentally be remotely locking yourself out of a system sometimes and just waiting an hour to get back into it. I would also recommend this to make sure you removed any blocked host after you remove snort. If there was some reason you do it, keep snort settings after deinstall. I generally recommend leaving that checked. And then start up shutdown logging. Click to output detailed messages to the system when snort logs and starting and stopping default is not checked. But if you check that, this is good for troubleshooting. Not necessarily something you need if you're very experienced and not worried about it, but troubleshooting if you're a first timer, definitely a good idea. We're going to go ahead and hit save. Then we're going to go ahead and click update, and then you will update the rules. We can see down here it says result success and we have all the rules updated. I want to switch over to another system where I do have these snort subscriber rules set up about a production system, because I want to get a lot more data for you and show you all the rules on these interfaces, not just the rules that were for the non-subscriber. For example, if we look here at an interface and we look at the categories, these ones in the middle where the snort text rules and snort subscriber rules are right here down the middle. So you can see there's quite a few more. These won't appear unless you have that snort oink master code in there to download the rules. Now let's go back over to the snort interface and create our first interface. Please note, I have created one for the different networks that I have in here, but you do not want to create one for the WAN. The reason for that is really simple. Snort or Sericata will both listen to a WAN interface and all the noise that comes at it. It works at a level different than the firewall rules. So while you will see a massive amount of traffic hitting, you will also see a CPU spike, and you'll be kind of confused because you're like, wow, look at all the things attacking me. Is the internet after me?  Honestly, that's just background noise on the internet. There's always something scanning, something poking and looking for an open port. Those parts are not open, so you don't actually have any traffic coming through unless you chose to open them. So you're just listening to a lot of noise, wasting a lot of CPU cycles, but it could be an interesting science experiment to see just how much noise is coming at you on the WAN. Ideally, you're going to be using this for your internal LAN interfaces. Now, you may have noticed that I have a PIA VPN in here. We'll talk about that in a moment, but yes, if you've followed my tutorials on setting up a privacy VPN and would like to add it as an interface, then you can also choose it from the interfaces that show up inside of Snort and Sericata. Now we're going to go ahead and hit add here, and we're going to choose my demo lab, and we're just going to call the description here demo. Really straightforward because we're not going to do anything with this right now. And we're not turning on blocking not for the beginning, especially in the tuning phase as we'll call it. If you turn on block offenders, it will do just like it says block anyone who flags a rule. That can be bad until you've tuned the rule. So I don't recommend turning it on the rest of the things we're just going to leave at the default. So hit save, we'll go to the interfaces and the interface has been created, but it has not been turned on. So we're going to head and start that interface. All right, now that the interface has been started, we can see the green checkboxes and it's working. But we haven't done anything for any rules on this interface. Now you can stop the interface to add the rules, but we're not going to gonna show you why we're going to hear to the demo categories and we're just going to go ahead and select all. Now select all is going to choose the rules here at the top, the tail of certified rules I have in the system, the C2 IP rules, but it's not going to select these middle ones. These are those extra enhanced rules. We can choose these and maybe we want to put some of these Chrome rules, browser for IE rules, because someone's probably still using that on my network, or hopefully not. Browser WebKit rules, BrowserKit SO, and so on and so forth, maybe some office rules. These are all different rules. And the more you check, the more demand is going to be put on the system in order to do this. When we click save, it's going to reload the rules. You've got to notice here, Snort live reloading the new rule set. So if we look over here at the interfaces that should stay green, but in the background, Snort is reloading. This is what happens every time you rule is updated or changed. Now let's go over to alerts. And we're going to switch to the demo lab and we see we have no alerts. So let's put a little bit of noise. I'm going to trigger a few of the rules so you can see what happens when these rules get triggered. Now this is a Cisco switch I've reviewed before. And the reason I'm using the Cisco switches because for whatever reason, it triggers a lot of the rules in a very immediate way inside of Snort. Now the reason it does this is because first it's HTTP, not HTTPS. It actually works both, but I purposely am using it on HTTP. And I'm coming from one side of my network going through my PF sense to another network, specifically my demo network that I've got set up. And when I log in here, this is where the rules are going to get triggered. I'm also getting a warning here that I'm logging into something that's not secure, which of course I'm going to click OK to that's my bit warden trying to protect me. And there was a button there if I wanted to switch this to HTTPS. But now if I go through here and we'll click around a little bit, we've now generated some traffic going back and forth. And if you want to see my review on this switch, hey, that's linked down below as well. These are the Cisco small business switches. Now let's see what Snort has to say about my traffic coming from the Cisco. And here we have all these different errors. It's apparently HTTP chunk size mismatch, invalid chunk size, etc. So it's kind of repeating the same rule. This is where we can try to look up the rule, but this doesn't always work. So if we click on this, it's supposed to land us on a site, but lots of these rule documentation appear to be missing. At least I couldn't find them here. And we can try searching the rule doc because what does that mean? Well, this is where things get a little bit challenging. And the best way to figure out what any of these mean is literally to start Google searching them because each one of them does have a meaning. And it's more than likely or in this case, for quite certain, a false positive where it detects the traffic between my computer, which is on this private network. And we went through the PF sent system to get to the demo lab. And it just doesn't like something that it detected. So we're probably going to just mark this as false positive. And how would we do that? Well, we could just click this little x here, and this will force disable the rule set. And that's how we can go through and disable these rules. So they are then suppressed and don't keep coming back up. But before we do that, I'm actually going to clear the rules. And I want to show you something. So I'm back at the Cisco login page, but this time I'm at HTTPS, the self sign certificate. So it does have an error. And you notice there's not a message here to switch to the HTTPS version, which means I'll be able to log in without getting that error. Now, because this is a self sign certificate, it's going to be encrypted, even though it's self signed that is kind of a confusion point where some people may go, well, it says not secure. It's only not secure because it's self signed, but it's still encrypted, which also means snort is blind to this traffic like most traffic that passes through your firewall here in 2023. This is one of the big challenges is I can go through and click the same things, look at different accounts, go through the setup on here. And we're going to probably see absolutely nothing inside of snort because now all of that's encrypted. We are back at the PF sense, though information because it doesn't see anything going on in there to understand and inspect the traffic. Now, this doesn't mean that snort or Saracada is completely ineffective here in 2023, but it's ability to pattern matches dramatically reduced based on the abilities it has to see patterns or not see them at all. In this case, so with encrypted web traffic and with most sites and even many of the threat actors now, go ahead and set up a let's encrypt certificate and then blind any of these systems unless they have a way to unravel the certificate, which is a much more complicated topic and way out of scope of this, where you install a certificate to build a trust. So all the traffic that you have can be inspected. And that has got its own challenges and not necessarily the best ways. Well, the reasons I've preached so much on this channel about focusing on the endpoint where all the traffic may or may not be bad and being able to monitor at the endpoint level, as opposed to trying to have one central firewall that tries to inspect every little piece of traffic with a certificate to unravel it, which of course breaks further with things like properly set up TLS 1.3. But as I said, diving deep into that could go way off topic of this, I just wanted to show you that especially in this particular case of the web browser traffic snort is completely blind to those different changes. But let's get back to rule tuning. Now I've logged back into the Cisco so I could generate some more errors for this particular demo interface. And we have these potentially bad traffic with this invalid chunk size. Now if we don't know what that means, you can just highlight and drop this into your favorite search engine. That is a easy way to start your investigative process. And the first landing is a net gate forum post for how serious should I take invalid chunk size and a discussion on the topic and specifically it's in the forum category of DS IPS. Now this is the importance of context for each of these investigations for any rule that gets triggered. What has occurred is I initiated a connection over HTTP from my system to the Cisco that triggered a pattern match in snort and gave us that rule and that error being triggered. That investigation leads me to people telling me it's not a big deal. But I kind of knew it wasn't a big deal because I didn't see anything that the Cisco was doing. It just matches some pattern that does look like something bad. Now if I did not initiate a connection to my Cisco and some other random device on my network did and I get that same error, that's a different context of the investigation where I should probably take it more serious going, why do I get this error from this random device? Why is this device that I didn't tell to log into a Cisco doing it? And you have to take that for each one of these investigations.  That is a cause for investigation if you didn't do the initiation of that. This is where it could be very helpful because it may block some of that because you don't necessarily want to suppress those rules. But this is why it's not a set it and forget it type of solution where each thing needs context and needs to be searched and tuned as things go. So let's dive into actually how to suppress the rules now. The rule suppression itself is really simple. We simply click on the little red X and that will disable the rule. And when it does so there's a pause and it's actually going to reload in the background. It says the state has been modified snort is live reloading new rule list. Please wait at least 15 seconds for the process to complete. I want to switch here to show what happens behind the scenes when you do a rule reload. So you see snort here using just about 100% processor but you'll also see there's several instances of snort. Snort itself isn't multi-threaded but it does spawn a process per interface and the rule suppression is done on a per interface basis. So we've only suppressed a rule for that interface so the reload only had to happen on that interface. It is important though that you wait that 15 or more seconds going to be processor dependent and how many rules that you have in there because if you were to try to suppress rules before the live reload was done you will get them in a queue and it may or may not actually reload them the second time. So that's one of the reasons there's that wait time in there because if you try to do a whole lot of them at once without waiting you could possibly get snort to crash or simply not properly load the rules and kind of cause a problem which would force you to stop and restart snort to get it working again. Now if we needed to unsuppress this rule we could simply click it again but you notice that clicking it once suppressed all instances of that rule for this particular interface and we can go on and select other ones. Now there is a filter option so we may want to filter for something specific that we see in here obviously this is a lot of the same repeating rules but let's switch to another interface such as NSFW LAN and we see destination IP for Google's IP address. I wonder how many other things had that destination IP that also triggered so we could put this as a destination address hit filter okay we only have the one in here and we'll filter back to get everything on here. Maybe we only want to talk about when the destination port was 443 so we could just take that destination port 443 and filter that and find any particular rule that matched these patterns. It also lets us filter by GID SID so if we put one and then the 2046071 here and hit filter it'll filter for just that and we can then if we want suppress just that one there and this is just an observed Google DNS over HTTPS domain rule so it just sees the call to Google over 443 but that does not mean it's seen the traffic within there. So even though this is an encrypted request it knows that it happened because it's basing it on the destination IP and the destination port so it's determining the type of traffic and this is an instance even with the traffic being encrypted it's a pattern match. The pattern is port 443 going to Google's DNS IP address so the list of IP addresses that are within the rules and it says that one belongs to Google that's one of their DNS servers and if it's going over 443 it must be HTTPS over DNS so it's just the encrypted DNS they can't see the traffic they don't know what traffic passed they just know traffic started and landed on those ports so this is an instance where it is useful to give you that extra insight and piece of information. Now let's start with processor usage and how to determine or how tricky it can be to determine how much processor it takes to run Snort or Sericata. This is an Intel seller on J4125 I chose this particular system to the demo on because it scores a whopping 2,974 here on the pass mark this is a really slow CPU there's no other way to cut it even though it does have a turbo speed of 2.7 gigahertz this is where people go well how do you even run Snort on this how is this even possible can it even route gigabit and the first answer is yes it can route gigabit second answer is yes it can route gigabit even with Snort so let's actually run that test and we'll start walking you through the process of how Snort interacts with all of this pattern matching now what you're seeing in the background here is PF Sense running in the top window the Debian demo on our demo network which we added that interface to in Snort and then this is on my network and this also has and Snort running so I'm actually going to get two Snorts running here one in my interface one on that interface so you're going to watch both of them here when we do an iPerf test and we broke it into 50 streams because it has to look through each of these streams not just hosts but all the different connections and try and match these patterns so we see Snort going up here to 80% on each of the interfaces but we're still getting full gigabit speed now I don't even have a gigabit connection here at my studio where I could do the testing for external so I'm just doing an internal one between two devices but you see with Snort on it has not affected my speed at all I'm still getting the same speed if Snort was off it is of course using a high percentage on there but you'll actually see things like Entop are using quite a bit of percentage as well of CPU time so it won't restrict you to one gig at this many streams so we actually got to ramp this up a little bit to try to see if we can get more hosts on here to try and overload this system a quick and easy way to do this is going to be well with this open VPN connection there's a reason I had it on there I mentioned earlier and that is because I use this privacy VPN to seed Linux ISOs and things like that and we've got about 12 posts on here but we're going to go ahead and fire this up and raise the bar quite a bit so there's a lot more than 12 posts because I just turned on all the seeding and well instantly we had 105 connected this will ramp up a little bit over time but let's watch what happens inside of PF Sense as this ramps up so we actually see Entop because now that's refreshing on another page really pulling a lot of CPU out of this and by the way this is also running over open VPN so open VPN is going to pull a lot of CPU because it's got to keep and maintain all those extra connections and still the system is just not under that much load we've seen the load go up here but it's still completely usable matter of fact while it's doing that and while it's being pressured let's do another iPerf test that can run simultaneously and load up the system even more and like I said this is that tiny little celeron processor and well I'm still getting gigabit across my internal network while I'm also ramped up connections and we've seen the system load go up here but it's not detrimental matter of fact we're now up to 619 uh 632 so the connection just keeps going up actually and active flows are 840 so all the flow data going back and forth that it's got a pattern match it's still not even stressing this tiny little processor it's still working perfectly fine all my linux isos are seeding perfectly fine and we're going to go back over here to pf sense and yeah we're still not reaching a load that would be detrimental to the system matter of fact let's actually go into pf sense and look at all the rules that are being triggered right now if we go here to alerts and we switch it over to PA VPN yeah of course look at all the torrent errors that we have in here because when you're seeding isos lots of torrents that's going to be something that's going to get flagged so you see all these different ip addresses all these connections it's tracing and it just doesn't take that much to run a few final notes when it comes to processors faster the course is always better but for example we have a neck eight 8200 at my office and several thousand connections not because we have thousands of employees but because we self host several applications and a neck eight 8200 has no problem running the intrusion detection system and I've got it tuned for a minimal amount of false positives especially on these self hosted systems we do so I can monitor all those different connections we host a tool called screen connect which is a remote access tool that connects to all of our clients so it's sending a pulse out and then we have the unified controller at the office which also has connections to right now about 80 different clients that all come in through that connection and it's all being monitored at the office through the intrusion detection system now this 8200 is not taxed it's not running hot it's not even really seeing much of a load on it with those connections the torrent example I did is actually more taxing because torrents are noisy and that's why I did it on the demo specifically with that processor I have here for the one I'm using at the studio so either way you slice it it really doesn't take as much as people usually think it does to run these intrusion detections but it really comes down to the number of tabs you have open in a browser and a number of persistent connections and a number of flows each client has as each one represents a pattern that has to be examined by storage so this does ramp up with a large maybe four or five thousand user phase where each of those users has a lot of connections and there's a lot to examine so there is times when you do want a much faster processor but for most people's uses it just doesn't require as much as people may think it does the final note is going to be the rules themselves I did a select all that is not the most ideal way to select rules you really want to figure out what rules are best for you and not select all of them because selecting all of them is going to create the most amount of noise and require the most amount of tuning unless that is your goal then select all is for you this is the fine tuning that always has to be done that should probably be done maybe for a week or two in essentially a detection mode before you turn it into prevention mode which means turn blocking on because if you turn blocking on from day one you generally end up with a bad experience because you're going along doing your thing and suddenly things stop working because they've matched patterns you have to then either a remove it from the block list but they'll pop right back on there unless you suppress rule so the more ideal is to figure out what rule was triggered whether or not that rule requires you to suppress it because it was real or fix whatever is causing the rule so it doesn't cause it again it is a back and forth very tedious game but it's also really fun learning especially if you're diving into security this is the same tool that's being used by other companies even including Cisco who is the maintainer of snort they're just not giving you an interface that gives you as much detail versus pf sensors giving you raw access to the tool they're not just blanket covering it as calling it intrusion prevention magic it's more you know this is snort or sericata whichever one you choose even in devices such as the unify dream machine which does have this on there they give you a little bit of tuning but not a lot and they're just using sericata and many of the same rules in the same way but they don't give you as many rules because they don't want to crank it up to max when in pf sense you can do the select all and really go crazy with it there's even more things you can turn on to watch things like skater controllers and all that you can go into some of 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