Sort of realizing that a lot of movies are based in reality And so that kind of took me down the path of studying Ian Fleming in his life and British intelligence and The the operations that he was involved in Doing great man. Thanks for having me. Yeah The pleasure is all mine the first thing Jay and welcome to the bought the t-shirt podcast is What are the origins of Hollywood because I've heard some real kind of Fascinating stuff from a from an occult perspective People do speculate about the name the Holly branch and all that stuff But I approached it more from what I was studying in grad school So I went to philosophy. I went to school study philosophy and film just because I like movies always wanted to be an actor that kind of stuff and Ended up not doing that But I did study film and philosophy and in college in grad school and I started realizing that a lot of movies are based in reality And so that kind of took me down the path of studying Ian Fleming in his life and British intelligence and the operations that he was involved in and That was a direct parallel obviously to one of the biggest figures in Hollywood, right? I mean James Bond is iconic and so I studied how he was used during the Cold War for propaganda And what I started realizing was that Hollywood has always been an engine of propaganda It it has some fascinating roots. Obviously a lot of different mafia is involved in the rise of Hollywood over the years but the main Trek that I took and studying it was as propaganda. So I went and I read Edward Bernays for example in his famous book propaganda He has a chapter where he says that you know the greatest engine for for for propaganda is Hollywood Movies are the greatest engine the world's ever seen for propaganda. So I started realizing that there was a lot of different layers to Hollywood a lot of different things going on and then I started noticing that a lot of A-list actors have had been spies or they had been in formats. They had been assets Which kind of blew me away because you know if you hear the first time you hear that I remember the first time I heard that and I was already kind of awake to you know How the world really works? I thought that was crazy. It just sounded too much And then you start reading about you know people's biographies. They're live Jimmy Stewart Errol Flynn right there all actually had a side job where they would get paid to inform and spinal people for the government for whoever So I just went further and further down that rabbit hole and it just became obvious to me that there's this fascinating intersection of cults of intelligence agencies of Cultists of you know Studios producers actors. It's all just one big pyramid. You could say in a way And so that's what Hollywood is Hollywood is a kind of world of its own that that has just this fascinating history of all of those Elements mixing together and I would say that ultimately if you study History it's probably kind of always been that way, you know all the way back to the globe theater, right? to the The British royalty, you know, they had probably spies in the theater back at the time of Elizabeth and John D Right, so I think it's always been that way. It's just that now with mass media with the mention of the camera with War propaganda films right and that was a big part of the development of the camera was that they realized they could utilize this tool for shooting propaganda And so they started doing that early on and some of the biggest movies back in the 20s, right? Howard Hughes Hell's Angels these are the blockbusters of their day. They were just war propaganda films. That's all they were So it's kind of always been That way in Hollywood and once you read that and realize it is pretty obvious But that's what Hollywood is is just a giant engine of propaganda with all these different gears working together Before we talk about the symbolism that just seems to proliferate if that's the right word the whole the whole of Hollywood and the music scene and it's not even You know, obviously, it's not even They don't even tend to hide it now, which is kind of weird when you think More and more people know they recognize it now. Yeah, who are all these groups that are in play I Mean I Hear talk of the Kazarian mafia the Sabotee and Frank is cult Obviously, Illuminati is the the the one that most people know Then of course, we've got Freemasonry Then of course, we've got I'm hearing this word tech technocracy even more more and more which is kind of like the corporate In influence on our on our lives and all the sort of you know, the Control as it were what what what are we looking at here? Are we looking at lots of different groups? Or are we looking at one kind of? sort of Big big brother type agenda or What I look at it is is that you can think of it like a pyramid obviously that's pretty common sense everybody's seen that imagery, but what confuses people is the Fights or the the power struggles that happen at lower levels on the pyramid, right? So you might have say think of it like a mafia system like we talked about before like you might have one mafia That wants to move in on another mafia And that's probably happening at kind of the middle level of the pyramid and there's a real fat There's a real fight that's happening right the Cold War I view it in a similar way, you know on the level of espionage They're really were spies for the Soviets and spies for the CIA, you know doing these different things If you watch that TV show the Americans they actually show this in a fairly accurate way I mean, it's obviously it's exaggerated because it's Hollywood, but you know that drama takes place during the end of the Cold War And you've got this family of spies sent over here the illegals from Russia to you know do their Special operations here while they're while they're under deep cover And at the same time running throughout the film is this theme of a managed dialectic, right? So the two sides but at the top but over this this two-sided thing is a higher level and so one of my friends who's a Russian analyst he's translated a bunch of old KGB diaries and this kind of stuff from the kernels of the KGB and one thing that has come to light in these new translations is that there were certain figures like Victor Rothschild or like Robert Maxwell dislaying Maxwell's father. They were actually Working both sides British intelligence and the KGB, right? So they were trying to play both sides and if you read a book like Dr. Carol Quigley's angle American establishment. This is a briefer version of his kind of massive great tone Tragedy and hope, right? He will tell you what's going on. He lays out the whole plan for the last hundred years and He's an apologist for the establishment, right? So he's riding from the archives of the council in foreign relations from the archives of the CFR Which is one of the most powerful groups that's been around since the 20s 30s set up by the Rockefeller family set up by these Extremely wealthy families in tandem with the Rothschilds in in the UK and What they wanted to do was transform the British Empire into a Global technocratic Empire a secular technocratic Empire that would utilize all these different arenas That would utilize people in the black markets that would utilize people in the deep state the military industrial complex All of this would come under the ages of this plan For a world government. It's that simple So look at it think of it like this is the big mafia moving in and taking over all the other mafias That's the way I see it It was a plan that they concocted a hundred years ago and they went and they recruited all of these academics From all these from Oxford Cambridge East Coast US University's Harvard Yale skull and bones, right? This is all part of that structure and They're in on this inner plan to create a global technocratic government that you mentioned Orwell It's that's kind of what Orwell is describing Huxley, he's describing the exact same thing in very new world if you go read Hd Wells his science fiction is all geared towards Demonstrating this exact same thing. So that's the way I see it is that at the top you have the most wealthy families And technocrats Bill Gates types Rothschild types Rockefeller types. They're up there at the top and Then below them they have what they call the managerial class and this is mentioned in the Quigley book It's mentioned in more recent books by a global elitist like David Rothkopf This is about 6,000 people who manage everything. This is the corporate elite the CEOs the people that are Working at the NGOs think tanks foundations ran corporation Carnegie Mellon, you know all this kind of stuff University heads And that's who kind of manages everything and they pull and recruit from the people who go to the universities, right? And then kind of below this managerial class you have like the intelligence agencies and You know lower level tell people who are out there doing things who they think, you know It's for some greater good some good some noble cause or whatever heads of churches, right? They're they're all kind of co-opted into this as well. They don't even realize they're serving this this big system So that's how I see it playing out. And so and we can Jay Yeah, we can add education obviously to that and absolutely and and social work and these kind of Yeah, social enterprises that profess to be benevolent and good, but in reality just It's all kind of this top-down serving a higher tier on this ladder on this pyramid, you know, exactly And by the way, the the cults that you were mentioned like quote illuminati That's kind of a generic catch-all phrase that's been used by a lot of different groups in history I mean there was a historic quote illuminati with Adam Byshop and all that and they were kind of like Enlightenment free thinkers enlightenment atheists They weren't really a cultist per se But they did kind of transmit an idea of revolutionary thought and philosophy that would influence other revolutionary movements communism this kind of stuff does have a lineage back to Adam Byshop through people like a Giuseppe Mazzini and Even even Albert Pike people like that can be Classed as revolutionary philosophers you could say and they're part of that revolutionary tradition other groups like Crowley and the Oto and you know his stuff they'll call themselves the illuminati, too, but they're more of like a Ceremonial magic black magic kind of thing So you've got a lot of different groups using this term But really in my view, they're all part of this same pyramid and they might be a different, you know bricks on this period You know, but as we get up to the top, I don't think there's any question that you know the wealthiest families Even the Vatican, you know, they're all part of this pyramid now Yeah, does he go higher than then Jay do you think because I've heard the Rothschilds are just You know, they're just like puppets again for You know, it could be I've heard that thesis as well But I just try to I just try to stick with what I can document and I can document from the establishment themselves and their writings That you know, those families are up Milner Cecil Rhodes You know, these are some of the the most powerful people last century. He's who really set up the system that's coming into play Are there people above that older families black nobility? It's entirely possible And I'm open to you know any evidence that people have for that These these people don't really have the best interest of the rest of the world in their hearts The second thing is is what they're doing. It's pretty evil and unless there's some Benevolent agenda that that we've all been blinded to or we can't we're not clever enough to see So is it a stretch then to think that they belong to these esoteric cults? Yeah, black magic Yeah, no, I think a lot of them a lot of them do right a lot of them Do have an esoteric? Bent to their to their worldview Maybe not everybody. I mean for example, I've never found evidence that's the David Rockefeller I've never found evidence that he himself had any esoteric views, but other members in the Rockefeller family did Edith I think one of the Sisters the older sisters of the Rockefeller family She thought that she was the reincarnation of Pharaoh's daughter She went and talked to Carl Jung and they did some kind of regression nonsense and Carl Jung was like, oh, yeah You're a reincarnated bride of Pharaoh. All right. So so there's definitely that background if we look at The philosophy of the United Nations Alice Bailey Annie Basant help Helena Blavatsky They were openly into this Luciferian theosophy type of worldview a lot of the early Founders of that what they call the society they elect This is the people around Milner roads Rothschild that were setting up this coming world order a Lot of them were really into New Age stuff. They were into mesmerism They were into Christian science, which is kind of similar to the osphian New Age in certain ways So definitely a lot of these families do have that There's a lot of wealthy elites in the US rich families. I'm talking about super rich families That have interest in the occult the Duke children have come out in interviews saying that their family was involved in Occultic stuff. So there's no shortage to Stories that have come out about that, but I would say at the top Yeah, even even people who don't even know if they're serving something evil could still be serving something evil because I believe that It's a spiritual reality that's even higher You know, you probably heard David I talking about this kind of stuff I think he's I don't agree with every position of David Ike but I think that when he talks about that they're being like a higher level of spiritual entities I've interviewed a dr. Richard Spence who wrote a book on how Crowley worked for British intelligence as an asset and he thinks that Where the British establishment got the idea for their version of MK ultra was actually from Crowley's drug diaries Which I think is pretty plausible because you see people like Leary and John C. Lily directly referencing all Sir Crowley saying oh, yeah, we're gonna Continue the work that he did right so there's this conscious and and I Tracked down I read Lily's autobiography and if you don't know he's the crazy guy who came up with the dolphin like giving Dolphins LSD making flip or trip Right and this was all done at the behest of the Office of Naval Intelligence, right? Well, then he moved on to working in brain chips and putting chips in people's brains and you know working with signals and frequencies This is all in his biography. It's not it's not hidden And then he moved into working in the float tanks, so if you've ever seen that movie with William Hurd altered states That late 70s early 80s movie. That's actually about John C. Lily and he was all doing that under the ages of the Office of Naval Intelligence and the CIA and in the in the US and all of that was about him Going into the float tank so that he could speak to you know, I have this sort of interaction with these entities Now a lot of these people think it was aliens. I don't think it's aliens I think it's spiritual Spiritual beings basically demons that they say the same thing that demons have said that shaman throughout the history of you know Planet Earth have all had the same interactions They all say the same stuff. So I think that's what was going on But what's fascinating is that whether it's leery or Terrence McKenna or John C. Lily they all say that They're getting kind of ideas and inspiration and and even maybe technology from these entities. That's the fascinating part My gosh, it's yeah It's hard to know Yeah, it's hard to know. I think this this former seal that I spoke to Jay when he talked about ETS I I don't think he was referring to like the space, you know, the Space got space little spacemen sort of thing. I think he just was using extraterrestrial as Like not of this earth sort of thing, you know, yeah, right. Yeah, I agree It's that an actual thing. Do you think or do you think it's? Like metaphorical or do you think it's in people's minds because people say to me when I talk about addiction And I lost my mind for on and off six months, right? And I remember it very well. I mean, I've written written my book eating smoke about it and When I described it, I said if you take crystal meth every day for pretty much six months and you've got to take increasing quantities as you get more and more I don't know about used to it Finally you you're putting such strong chemical into the synapses of your brain that rather than fire like this they they Start doing this and so you start to not make sense of your world, right? And then and then I've had people in my comments section go Chris. That's You take this if you take drugs you open yourself to the spiritual realm and income that the the gins, you know that the I don't know if they're evil spirits, but they they they seize that to control you and yeah As a metaphor, I'd say that's Brilliant metaphor, you know because there's your higher self your spiritual self and And your lowest self so your animal self and we know that if we keep ourselves in in in this area That's your kind of like your good angel stuff and if you do the stuff from the waist down the the greed the You know the jealousy gluttony too much sex or lust that this stuff's going to make it unhappy and of course Taking a poison every day for six months.  It's just chemicals reacting. It's a mental phenomenon. It's not a real thing There's a book by a famous Comparative religion scholar his name is Marquia Iliada. He's a Romanian. He's probably the most famous comparative religion scholar He wrote a book on Shamanism the books just called shamanism and He went and studied all the shamanic traditions and tribes that he could famous Oxford Publication And what he found was that there is a pattern To all of them a consistent pattern to every one of these shamanic Traditions and experiences now not every experience of the shamanic You know stuff is exactly the same but there is enough of a consistent pattern of the process of what happens to the shaman That he concludes that there's something going on more than just a mental I mean a mental state. So if it was just a mere mental state Nobody has the exact same mental state, right? So there's got to be some kind of underlying Reality beyond just the purely synapse firing type of thing So I think that book is a pretty good case even just setting aside, you know Speculations about religious traditions just looking at the data of the patterns and different shamanic traditions that In my view, there's something more going on than than just a metaphor I mean, there is a metaphor, but there's also something more than just a metaphor Jay, let's peel back to Hollywood if we may because My understanding is, you know, they're doing all these signs and I I'm guessing I don't know That these celebrities Don't really know what they're doing Or they conveniently tie on a blind eye because you know if you're told to cover your eye in a photo shoot and then You know, you're gonna get a million dollars in your bank account every year then I'm guessing For people that desperately crave fame and adulation Which a lot of people who've been damaged in their lives do it's why I started writing I wanted to be famous, you know, I wanted I wanted my five minutes of fame at least, right? I wouldn't have gone to the I don't think I would have sold myself to the to the devil to use the departments But who It's like let's talk about because who is making them do it or maybe they're involved in these cults and You know, I'm sure some of some of them are because you look at you know, no, just suspect Mr. Bono, but You just don't look right, mate. You know, you don't look right and of course, you know, they can't be blind to these lyrics that They're singing and the stuff they're having to do in the music videos and so What is going on there? Jay, do you think and also why does it so much seem to be Along the lines of the Masonic Symbology that that that that we say, you know the checkerboard and the eye of Horace and this kind of thing Good question. So I would say that yeah, most people going into entertainment. They don't know any of this stuff I mean I used to do stand up and I would you know, I'd go out to clubs and I wanted to be an actor I wanted to I had no idea what was going on I just thought I thought well you you go and if you are the most talented if you're good Then you're gonna rise to the top, right? But then you quickly learn that that's how the world really works is not based around talent one thing that's important to see is like Bloodlines dynasties, right? Hollywood dynasties. So a lot of the children of the stars who've been abused go into Stardom and they become stars and so they kind of perpetuate that cycle. A lot of those families are Involved in cults. They've been involved in these different control structures You know, Hollywood has a lot of Freemasons. It has a lot of Cobblers. It has a lot of Satanist It has a lot of Crowley ends. I mean you've got all these different new age years, right? I mean Hindus, I mean, they're basically it's it's a plethora of different cults and Families involved in long-term cults and even some of those cults have been, you know exposed as pedophile cults, right? You think about the the children of God cult right with you know, you've got Rose McGowan You've got River Phoenix Joaquin Phoenix, you know, they come out of that Well-connected kind of poll famously well-known So all of that's going on All at once and so the symbolism again like you said for a lot of the People who want to move out to Hollywood to be famous or whatever. They don't know what's going on But at those higher levels, they do know what's going on. And so think of it like a military I mean you've talked about military, you know, it's compartmentalized, right? You've got the the enlisted soldier He doesn't know what the general's up to right because the knowledge is compartmentalized even people my dad was on a ship and you know, he worked on a one gun on the ship and He would get a message. He was told to push the button when it was ready to fire, right? But he didn't know what the captain was up to right? He didn't know what intelligence the captain was getting and why they were doing he was just doing what he was told to do And so in the same way, you know Mafia has worked that way. It's compartmentalized the information is compartmentalized big operations like Manhattan project work that way People will be working on one part of the bomb. They don't know what's going on the other side of the factory Or what this is all going together to make So the world is running that same way and Hollywood's running that same way You've got these different characters at higher levels. And if you think about something like masonry I mean Albert Pike says in World's the dogma. He says that the lower levels. He says we intentionally don't tell them what's up He says we intentionally give them misinformation So we tell them a bunch of baloney, right? And it's not until people get higher and higher in this this ladder, you know pyramid structure That they have a higher a Bigger picture view of what's going on. I mean think about it like a mountain if you're at the base of the mountain You can't see what's going on You know, you're letting you can only see the tree line, right? But the higher you get up to the top of that mountain you can see the whole big scale picture, right? That's the way I think all this stuff works Gosh, yes, and so Are they trying to my understanding of these kind of cults is they believe By draining your power they they gain that power so by getting you to be negative It's not like they get positive. It's just that they that energy That feeds their needs and and makes them makes them all Powerful so to speak and you can see it. I mean to me to me J It's so obvious when you've got a rock concert And let's just say the stage is set up Like if you know what you're looking for it's it's more like an altar than a than a Than a rock concert, right? And good point.  You know, he's craving that adulation You can see the star he or she is soaking that up It means so much to them, right? You can see why they suck They you know They would sign a deal if it was offered to them because this is just from a broken childhood and because you're good at singing you're suddenly you you're getting 10 20 sometimes 30,000 people singing your name and then when you look at the crowd and then they're just like ah Well, I think the The system knows how to play to people's weakness and to their vanity and so if you're talking about the star Yeah, a lot of times people are kind of groomed and they're they're they're prepped to play that role and It really feeds into just their narcissism, right? So it to have a narcissistic pop star or whatever Uh, it helps if that person has been as you said damaged or they had a dysfunctional family And the same thing goes for people who go into, uh, you know intelligence work or whatever a lot of times those are people who Um have been traumatized intentionally And and wealthy families have for a long time known this and they've done it on purpose They they've intentionally traumatized their children to make them into kind of buttholes, right? I mean To be a leader in the system you got to be a total butthole With no empathy and that kind of stuff So they try to breathe the empathy out of people intentionally actually quickly talks about that, you know at the end of tragedy and hope he talks about how There's the the elite would intentionally for example, send their children away in the formative years So that they would not have Parental familial attachment so that they would lose that aspect of their of their self to become kind of these narcissistic sort of sociopathic Monster types and that's done on purpose. It's done. It's done the elites have done that for millennia on purpose They know how to do that stuff which is which is sad, but that's what they do So so that's going on and at the same time uh, the purpose of like a ritual of a big ceremony, you know, we think about the the Super Bowl halftime show and all this kind of nonsense and the the olympic games and all this weird imagery at the That's to focus everybody's attention You see you've got millions of people's attention focused on this billy prep maybe a billion or more And then you do this ritual that's supposed to speak to the subconscious that's supposed to it Amits a message even if the conscious audience Doesn't know it or can't see it. They don't even know but this is being implanted in the subconscious and they're being ritually programmed That's the purpose of all this and if that sounds crazy Well, just go read sun zuf go read any Classic work of psychological warfare and you will get those same principles there. You'll get the the idea that for example, there's a uh A famous chapter in macchiabelli's book art of war He wrote a version of of art of war Just like our sun zu had art of war Machiavelli wrote a separate book called art of war and in book six he talks about all the different psychological tricks to play on the the opponent, right War time if you study wartime, you know this you know that there's all kinds of tricks that you play on the enemy to dupe Them to demoralize them. That's the whole purpose of it, right? So the elite they know how to use all those same tricks on the population as a whole to demoralize them, right? So what you talked about that psychic vampirism is absolutely real The stars operate like these little figures that sort of suck in the attention and the energy of The the masses and then they feed back into the masses Whatever demoralization message that they want to send and it has a kind of Like a lot of things in life, isn't it that there's other implications as well because You've got all these masses that rather than looking to attain this kind of Higher power themself Which you can easily do through through just getting spiritual eating a good diet running around the block twice a week and loving your family Right is i'm always saying you know paradise is in your head but because they've been Controlled their whole life and fed the the rubbish food and the alcohol and the coffee and and And the junk tv and they've been broken down by magazines that tell them they're ugly And and all of this and tv that makes them scared scared scared And of course they look up to this megastar and They they're living is it vicariously through this but it's like wow You know It's prince and of course That's really powerful because it means that the people don't bandy together to work on themselves and get And and get this satisfaction in their own lives. It's it's a bit like football, isn't it? They call it opiate for them for the masses There just seems to be so many different agendas in play And i'll just name a few and maybe you'd feel free to chip in but You've got this feminization Of the masculine, you know You can see it on tv where they seem to for some reason they seem to want to make black men dresses women As often as possible and if that You know sounds a bit bizarre to anyone home just just google it, you know Every one of your black stars has been made to dress up as a woman At least one point in their career If not more Um, you've You've got the masonic symbolism blaring out of Hollywood and the music industry um, you've got the the the whole kind of um The agenda was agenda 21 and it's now what agenda 30 the kind of control you in your own home control What you see on the internet control your energy supply Maybe we have chips in our hand and that's our digital currency basically can treat complete control of the human being and the ability I guess to switch you switch you off if you don't comply um you've again got Like the the war agenda where people these corporations that the the military industrial complexes clearly create these conflict You know you've got your pyramid and let's just say you've got cubes within the pyramid or pyramids within the pyramid And of course they all interlock don't they you know, and then you might get one pyramid that actually encompasses Six or nine other pyramids inside the pyramid, right? Is it something like this or is all this just like one agenda that that Either people discover it in their life or they don't um I would say that uh, if we want to use another military um idea the pentagon Some years back came up with what they call full spectrum dominance And that's really the the game playing here. I mean that was the u.s. Milits, but remember the the u.s Military pentagon. Those are just that's just a tool of these Megacorps, right? I mean they work for these big uh military industrial complexes be the defense contractors all that Big pharma it's all part of the same Power structure and the pentagon is just one arm of that And and when they say what we're going to do in the next 20 30 50 years is full spectrum dominance They literally mean every area of life like you mentioned education Uh biology the biosphere. All right geo engineering. It's very real in fact the head of davos He just wrote a book the shaping of the future of the fourth industrial revolution He's got a whole chapter on geo engineering But if you talk about geo engineering, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist But if the head of davos were all the elite going meet once a year this big Uh party when he writes a book talks about it.  I mean again, it's all areas of life It's nano tech. It's it's Psychological warfare. It's the arts. It's the biosphere. It's education It's religion all areas of the life of life come under this overall plan I'm glad you mentioned the eco stuff because that's what they dreamt up Back at the club of rome meeting many years ago. If you look up this book called the first, uh, global revolution The club of rome was one of these elite think tanks. They said that the the new problem that we would Uh invent for everybody is the environment And pollution they said will be the key for us to say that the real pollutant is humans in general And they admit that it's just made up They said we will come up with a new problem to unify everybody and it'll be this eco cult so, uh And that makes perfect sense because you read other elitists in the royal society circles like arthur kessler and ghost in the machine And kessler says in ghost in the machine that yeah, we got to bring back Uh human sacrifice we got to bring back cannibalism Blood cults, right? You were asking elites that are into that stuff. Well, there's one right there He says there's nothing wrong with any of that. Let's bring it all back. Let's just have a giant amazon as tech cult Running everything and we'll worship the planet and what we'll do is that'll get rid of a large portion of the population And then we can move into the next phase of evolution, which is transhumanism in their view You said about the conditioning as children and we all know about attachment theory Was it dr. Bulby said if a child is not with its parents at a certain age I think attachment theory is actually really young age like so when it's an infant. Yeah Then it it lacks it doesn't it doesn't understand empathy. So basically It's on its road to becoming a sociopath, right? Yeah and So these public school what we call private schools in the uk public schools I don't know why we do that, but but we do it's where all the kind of rich You know hoi paloi send their kids and So I've got this kind of picture that You know your dad's an international banker your mum's a jet set or whatever you You're a kid You've probably had nanny so you haven't had your real Mother and father look after you a tool much in your life Then you get to five years old and you're farmed off to a to a boarding school a private You know like um, yeah, I don't even know know the Know the names of them, but And then of course you don't have that parental connection at all your your maternal or and paternal figure becomes the boy that's like in the year older than you or two years or the The guys that are going to bully you right and then of course your first sexual experience It's probably one of these guys.  Sorry children.  I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on it um, all I can go with is what I've You know proven. I mean, there's a lot of speculation out there Um, I know that there was speculation because of hunter s. Thompson. You know, he would talk about adrena chrome There's speculation about that. I don't I don't know the details of that Um, I have a friend who's a chemist and he says that you know this stuff can easily be synthesized So I don't I don't know if they have to like have giant farms. I mean it could be I don't know There've been cases, you know, where people like you said have you know, obviously busted a lot of human trafficking and that kind of stuff So I don't know about that in particular, but I can think of a couple books that do discuss Um, like hearth barker has an interesting book where he talks about his experiences He alleges that he went through some of this stuff when he was a kid Um, again, it's just firsthand accounts But what's interesting is that what he wrote in that book a lot of what he said would take place in the next five ten years has happened So I'll give him credit for predicting a lot of what's happened and he does discuss some of this this stuff and He doesn't mention the scale of it, but he says that you know, this is what goes on at a lot of these, you know, really elite Mansions out in the country this kind of stuff. So so all I can say is what you know Is in the books that are out there like The franklin cover-up book, uh, you know kerth barker's book I don't trust malachi martin. I think he's a dubious character But he talked about this stuff going on in the Vatican back in the you know, 80s and 90s So it's definitely there's definitely reality to it But to as to the scale, I don't know but as to how prevalent the human sacrifice is I'm not sure although I will say that when the fbi declassified their stuff on the finders And the famous mc martin case it turns out they're work tunnels So this thing that the so-called conspiracy theorists have talked about that the media was ah, you're crazy There's no tunnels.   Well all turns out in the fbi declassified documents. They're work tunnels So that wasn't made up. It's funny. I mean after I spoke to to rob uh, robbie williams that is for people that don't haven't seen that um podcast And he's also gone on to do another interview of it with a form of bbc journalist now and Like my god, they It's interesting when I chatted to him they came in and they did articles But it was only on the pop stuff, you know the tacky Superficial he said this about this pop star and that was as deep as it went right for this um Other journalist it's gone a bit deeper now But but only as far as they'd come out and they called him wacky for Talking about pizza gate, right? They got it wrong. They said he was supporting the theory, but he wasn't he was saying My jury is out. I I'm not saying it's happened. I'm not saying I haven't I don't know and you know, it's kind of like a Could could be a fair argument But um I've just kind of got this thing, you know, if wikipedia calls it a conspiracy theory then well You know, it kind of means it's true, right? The mainstream media call it conspiracy then it's kind of true Yeah, I mean in that particular case. I don't know the exact details. Uh, a lot of it's uh Unclear. I mean obviously something crazy is going on Um, we again, there have been many many cases have documented You know trafficking so I mean I think it'd be more beneficial people focused on the things that are documented But people love to speculate and they love to I'm not saying there's nothing going on I'm just saying people love to kind of speculate about stuff when it's a lot easier to look at the real documented cases I mean you mentioned the uk In the u.s.  I haven't looked a lot of this kind of is it ninth circle stuff And there's undoubtedly Well, I don't know about that like I'm not been I'm just talking about again what things are And I'm not saying oh, well, then I trust the mainstream media. I'm just again Going with what I can prove And when something's in court, that's a much better case for it being real then Yeah, just kind of people speculating online, which is again not to say that there was nothing going on or that I know for sure what's going on. Yeah, if the football league the premier league is your main educator in life That's what you're gonna believe right, you know, that's yeah, well, I mean I mean that no disrespect. It's just the truth. That's That's just just how it is the same way in the u.s. People, you know worship the nfl It's it's a that's what they live. Yeah, and it doesn't it serves a very important function It keeps people's mind off of off of what, you know, the of community spirit and Talking to people and other than talking about football obviously um, but yeah So so that I get that a lot. I think people still feel like they've got to be the apologist for For seeking the truth and I like everybody I meet now just knows the truth Yeah, I mean if if after epstein, you still can't figure out what's going on. There's no hope for you Yeah, my only thing is is I I try to get people not Robbie Williams came up with a great expression. He said don't be a red pillar, right so meaning Don't be a person that grabs hold of every single theory out there and believe in it because obviously a lot of them are Put out by the cai cia. Yeah, there's a lot of dis info.  Yeah, I did esoteric hollywood one and esoteric hollywood two and they focus on Kind of my weird way of doing a film analysis So I do about 80 pages of cubrick and then I go into science fiction how it programs us what we're supposed to Why science fiction was so important to the establishment? Then I go into intelligence agencies in hollywood towards the end and then in the second book I went into Areas that I kind of overlooked like relationship between different mafias in hollywood Colts in hollywood And then I get into mk ultra in hollywood how it's presented and then it ends with Transhumanism in hollywood so you can get those books at my website jason allsas.com and then I have TV show hollywood decoded full production tv show at gaya tv where we basically took information in the book And then my website is jason allsas.com where you can get my lectures and talks where I cover a lot of these writings of the elite and kind of summarize those and then recently last few days have been Yesterday I hosted the outer jones show so You can find my stuff at band up video as well Right, and I'm going to put all your links underneath the youtube So anybody who's listening on itunes or whatever wants to find just go to my youtube channel They'll all be there So for people listening mk ultra was a project monarch as in like Named after the butterfly was a cia Project back in there. I don't know if we're talking sixties that Well it began in I think the late 40s where they were looking for a Truth serum and it was under the ages of the military initially And like I said, there was a kind of a British Version of it with earlier on with huxley and tavastock institute and all that but in the us Mk ultra itself was just one of the many sub projects of the overarching Mind control projects of the of the cia that began like I said It was military and then it transitioned into the cia in the 50s and 60s big pharma had a big role in that Um And what they were looking for was I said initially a truth serum, but then it kind of morphed into Bio warfare. Uh, so it became these other projects at fort detrick became in case search Where they were trying to look for the different ways that chemicals could alter human consciousness human thought There's a lot of great books on this. There's walter bowert's book operation mind control there's uh Search for the Manchurian candidate by john marx My book has multiple chapters that discuss it Um, but yeah, there's a lot of public information that's out about this now. That's pretty It's a lot of not everything but a lot of it's declassified Um, and so who knows where they've taken it since then but It was always connected what a lot of people don't know about this was that it was always connected to Um electronics research signals research elf dlf brain ships that was always part of mkilture, right? It wasn't just a mind control Uh lsd thing all of these things were part of this overarching study to master The domain of the mind And a kind of a red flag for me there is whenever the Security agencies come out and say oh we don't do that anymore It's a what you had the ability to control someone's mind to The perfect assassin and you want us to believe you just you drop that project Right, okay, you know, it's almost I'll make maybe i'm being a bit naive on it. I think it's No, it's what what's more important than this the assassin thing that was just one aspect of it with the doctor, uh, you and cameron and got leave and all that but there was a Applying the principles that they learned to The mass population that's what it was really about It's not so much about creating some so-called assassin It's about what do we learn in these test cases with individuals that we can apply on the mass scale That's what it's about But I do think that some of these people you watch the interview with britney spears I mean she seems to have altered personalities Yeah, it's it's crazy for for people listening that And to al if you ever get to watch this no, no, I mean no offense to you, but It's very bizarre. So you've got this tv personality generally a sort of presenter type chat and he's In this outside audience and he's doing his talking bit with a couple of other presenters and one of them turns to him and speaks When that person says the the phrase holy ghost, which is just in in the conversation Yeah, holy ghost he goes And he's just Flops into this trance staring dead ahead these two continue talking away and then they're like And and you see this a lot in these presenters it's this isn't just like a one-off There's numerous Much video footage of this happening. There's that wendy the the black woman. I she's got like a daytime show She just suddenly starts Freaking out and screaming in the middle of one of her things and i'm i'm i'm not a subjective type person I'm probably like uj. I lean to the objective and yet You don't know that this couldn't have been put on you don't know it might not be some kind of Like one of these illuminati Where the celebrity has to go and make a fool of themselves because that seems to be part of a humiliation ritual Yeah, the humiliation ritual, you know, like when Kanye goes and tries to grab the the music award of of this kind of thing right but but um I really it really does seem like these People have these split personalities Many do uh, you know how many I don't know but they at times they talk about it. Um You know Beyonce seems to hint at that at times whether she's playing that up or I don't know but Uh, I think Britney Spears pretty clearly does. I don't think she was acting. She's not a very good actress So in that uh barba walt that famous barba waltz interview she seems to um Uh, Anna Nicole Smith if you watch the old clips of her she seemed to have these dissociation spells Brian wilson of the beach boys claims to have these dissociation spells. So Uh, that does happen. Um, but as to how many of the pop stars actually have that it's hard to say But there is some reality to that. Absolutely and just one aspect I I've mulled over is If you think about it These people in the they're in the public eye They must be many rich men's fantasy these gorgeous looking, you know news news presenters who who all look stunning and These celebrity pop stars that are you know at the top of their top of their game and It it because one of the mk ultra thing was the sex kitten one, wasn't it?  I mean to do that job You're gonna you you probably got to be the sort of person that's just got a lie for a living Any you know tell tell the sociopaths lies and not question it which they obviously don't But then of course you think we're having a set This is a really pretty woman and there's there's Millions of people watch her every day. Well, that's the story of candy jones. I mean she's one of the famous Donald bane wrote a book about her. She's the famous kind of monarch sex kitten That supposedly was one of the first and she claims a lot of that stuff. She comes up in the walter billard book Uh, I mentioned her story in my book Uh, but there's other stories of uh, people who've gone through that as well The the kerf barker book mentions that of the the sex slaves Um, and I would not be surprised if yeah, some of these pop stars haven't also been through some kind of Uh sex kitten thing because Yeah, I mean, I mean that was a story a long time ago about I won't say who but one of the big pop stars Admittedly she said yeah, I was paid. Uh, I don't know how many thousands of dollars to go sleep with one of the sheiks Right, some arab sheet dude paid. I don't know how much And uh, she said yeah, I was I went and I did it for you know, $50,000 or whatever much it was So, you know if that's going on And and they have the opportunity to you know Be around world leaders this kind of stuff. There's a lot of information that could be had there, right?  I mean that's gone on for millennia So thank you so much for coming on the show. Um, thank you Um, you're obviously a man that knows knows your stuff. It's um, very impressive Thanks, man. Appreciate it. So jay, just stay on the line when I say goodbye to our wonderful friends at home So wonderful friends at home. Thank you for watching. I hope you found that as fascinating As I have thank you for watching the bought the t-shirt podcast big love and respect to you and your families Please like and subscribe if indeed you did like and uh, See you next time


Hey guys, what's going on? It's Andy Elliott. This is gonna be the 15 rules, the top 15 rules, guys, that you need to have during negotiations. This is gonna be a three-part series. In this series one, I'm gonna give you the first five. Let's kill it. Hey guys, what's going on? It's Andy Elliott. In this video, I'm gonna show you if you wanna be the best closer and negotiator in the world, we're gonna give you the 15 rules that are non-negotiable. You gotta follow these 15. If you do, you'll be deadly. Rule number one is gonna be this. It's really simple. Always be seated when closing. Take a pen, take a piece of paper right now, start taking some notes, and anything that I say that resonates with you, write it down. So in the automotive space, the first 90% of the time we're outside on the lot building value, making sure the customer falls in love with us, telling them about what maybe the deal might look like in order to do business with us right now. The last 10% of the time we're inside in a seated position, collecting 100% of the money during the negotiations. Now whatever it is you do for a living and whatever it is you sell, I can assure you that you may speak about a proposal while standing, but when you're ready to seal the deal, you're always gonna be sitting. You always wanna take it to a seated position. Understand this. If I'm sitting and a customer stands up, that customer's planning on exiting the deal.  It's really important that you understand that we close in our seat. We sell on our feet, we close on our seat. Rule number two is gonna be always make eye contact. This is extremely important.  It shows that you're the trusted advisor, that you're the expert. Make sure you keep your eye contact strong. Do you want the people to believe that you're the person that they can deal with to make this deal right? If you do, keep the eye contact strong. I see so many sales people while they're negotiating during the deal what they'll do is they'll do something like this. So Mr. Customer, you know, kind of what I was thinking. You'll look away, why did you look away? For a second when you look away, it breaks the connection, which is extremely important. The strongest thing you could have during negotiation is trust and report. And people trust people who look at them in the eyes. Keep that rapport strong, guys. Don't look away. It makes the customer think that you're thinking of what to say. Keep the eye contact strong. Rule number three, this is gonna be a good one. This will save a lot of your lives out there. Know how to use humor to relieve pressure. Let me tell you what I mean. Customers come in, guys, spending a lot of money. It is a little bit serious sometimes. Your goal is to not match their seriousness.  One of the best closers in the country is to be a little quirky, be a little funny, laugh a little bit, right? Look, yes it is a lot of money, but at the end of the day, are you gonna get real serious with them and let them get really serious about the money that they're spending?  The person that I'm with while I'm spending the money, however much it is, I'm having fun and I really don't feel the pressure. Notice I use the word to relieve pressure, right? You gotta think about this. They're nervous. A lot of people are looking for reasons and excuses why they should pass go, why they should spend the money. It's your job to give it to them and make it fun. Write that down right now. Make it fun, take control, be a little quirky, have a little humor. And by the way, if you're not funny, go buy a little joke book, right? Learn how to tell a couple little jokes while people are buying stuff so they can laugh. And then they buy it from you. Think about it. These are tips and ways to be master closers. Relieve the pressure with a little bit of humor. Okay guys, rule four here, check this out. Always have an arsenal, a large amount, an abundance of. Always have an arsenal of word tracks so you don't keep repeating yourself. Look at this word, repeating yourself. Don't sound like a damn parrot, all right? I sit there and I watch salespeople while they're negotiating a deal with the client and what they're doing is they're repeating themselves over and over, which number one is annoying to just listen to. Heaven forbid the customer hear it, but three, you sound like a parrot. You're just repeating and repeating and repeating. Having an arsenal of great closers will allow you to do a couple things. Number one, not sound like it's your first day. Sound like you're the trusted advisor and sound like you know how to deal with money. Listen, there's two types of no money. In-o money, like I ain't got no money, I don't know about money. Like I don't know anything about it because I have no money. And then I know money, which means I can help you talk about it and work your way through it because I'm really familiar with it. And by the way, I sell a lot of cars here at my dealership. I sell a lot of whatever it is that you sell. Stop repeating yourself. Sound like you're really familiar with everything that it is that you're talking about. Look, if they go left, right, always agree with them and then be willing to take them back right again. Have an arsenal of closes and word track. If you'll train with me, you'll always learn that I talk about word tracks. Hundreds and hundreds of word tracks. So as you're going through the dealings with the customer, the customer's at peace because they never hear the same thing twice.  It's just nice and smooth all the way to the close, okay? So always make sure that you have an arsenal of word tracks that you can use during negotiating. Number five is gonna be always know that you'll come to an agreement. This is extremely important. As I'm negotiating with you, if you look at my posture, you can tell that I know that we're gonna come to an agreement. I've never doubted the deal. I don't doubt you and I don't doubt myself. I don't think we ever end up at a dead end. And I see a lot of sales people, they lose hope in the customer can see that they don't feel like there's an agreement that's gonna be came to.  You always know that there's an agreement you're gonna come to. Never give up on the deal. So rule number five will be always know that there's an agreement you're gonna come to. Never lose that faith and always have that believability in your eyes and they need to be able to see it as well. All right, so check it out. If you guys are watching this video and you wanna become a master closer and be one of the best closers in the world, you can always reach out to me, tell me exactly what it is that you struggle with and I'll help you. My cell phone number,<PHONE_NUMBER>. Guys, just shoot me a text message. Andy, I'm struggling with this. What would you do?<PHONE_NUMBER>, guys. Also remember, be on the lookout for tomorrow. Part two is gonna be dropping in the day after we got part three. Crush it and kill it.


Hey co-friends, I'm Bianca Renee and you're watching Bianca Renee today and today I am finally going to review these brand new Curly hair products introducing the new Not your mother's curl talk line I literally just now realized that these products are called curl talk like that's the name of one of my segments on my channel I basically invented these Okay, fine. I had nothing to do with these products, but I am so excited to try them I love the name love the packaging has little curly little purple curls on the top Well, I love purple and I love these products So in the line you get a shampoo a three-in-one conditioner a gel a styling cream and a moose thing about the moose all the other products are sulfate, paraben and silicone free Except this naughty little guy right here, and I was really sex I really wanted to be able to be like you can get anything in the curl talk line not your mother's Beyond grenade approved easy-peasy, but then I had to read that little fine print with the asterisk that said accept the moose But they didn't lie about it. There's nothing on the bottle that says it's a silicone free That's why it's important to always read the label. So just go by the brand But I contacted not your mother's and I told them that I will not be able to review this because of the silicone I'm not gonna lie to you guys I preach us why you guys follow me because I always keep it real and they told me that they're actually going to remove The silicone from the moose can we just give that a round of applause for a second like that's what I'm talking about Apparently a bunch of people were complaining about the silicone Because that's just not what us curly people want So I respect a brand that listens to their consumers and just gives us what we want like we're gonna spend the money We're all product junkies if you give us something good We have a problem and we know it so for the sake of this video I will only be trying the shampoo conditioner the gel and the styling cream And then I probably will revisit the moose when it's ready to be reviewed now The greatest thing about all these products is the price. They're only 799 literally all of them shampoo conditioner gel styling cream moose all the same price all 799 across the board that makes things really easy and it's so Affordable you're also getting really decent sized products the shampoo conditioner are 12 fluid ounces the defining cream and the sculpting gel Are six fluid ounces they both have squeeze bottles for the styling products, which I like the shampoo has a Interesting little squeeze nozzle, but then the conditioner has a pump Don't know why they put the pump on the conditioner kind of makes it hard to do in the shower But you know, we're gonna make it work. So in today's video I'm gonna give you a full review of all the products starting in the shower with the shampoo This is the not your mother's curl talk curl care shampoos the shampoo is sulfate free Which is the main important thing to look for with your shampoo It's supposed to cleanse your hair and hydrate it for enhanced curl retention And as you can see it is bubbling up So you will get that lathering sensation even though it doesn't have sulfate after the shampoo I rinsed it out and then grab the not your mother's curl talk three in one conditioner this conditioner is Three in one meaning it's a leave-in a rinse out and a co-wash So that means you could leave it in as a styler after the shower You could use it after a shampoo like a normal conditioner and rinse it out or You could use it in between washes when you don't want to cleanse your hair with the shampoo So it has a cleansing agent in it as well besides giving moisture to your hair So since it is a three in one conditioner and it also is a leave-in I didn't rinse it out in the shower I just kind of detangled with my fingers and then I squeezed out any excess product and just left any remaining product in my hair I do think I would prefer a pop-up top like the shampoo for the conditioner just because using a pump in the shower We get a little complicated, but obviously what's important is what's inside I did think this had really good slip I love the smell and it's very lightweight not too heavy The scent doesn't linger on your hair after you get out the shower And I was very very happy with it and it doesn't have any silicone now Let's get out the shower and move on to the styler. I am someone who loves a good gel So of course I grabbed the gel first. This is the curl talk frizz control Sculpting gel anti frizz and flexible hold for flake free firm hold now if you look on this little chart right here This is a level three in the whole department I probably would still be okay with like a four or a five because I do like a little bit of that crunch But I think this is the perfect amount of hold that everyone will be happy with now Let me cut back to the day where I used the gel so when I applied the gel I always apply it on wet hair I apply a good amount and then I scrunch it and rake it through my hair Smoothing it through my ends and then scrunching it back up for definition I do this on both sides just to make sure that all of my hair is covered since I have bangs I do put some more on the top and focus on my bangs So that was day one today is actually day two so the crows you're looking at right now Day two hair and I'm getting amazing volume I think I did get more hold on the second day not applying it on straight up soaking wet hair and as you could see I Got some really Really pretty curl definition. Look at this one Look at these look at look at that. Oh I couldn't even separate these because they were just so pretty I just added some water added some gel and that is how defined they became so I am so So happy to say that I love the gel the gel is Bianca approved only 799 It has a great hold it doesn't make your hair too hard or crunchy But it's enough to give you that cast to where when you scrunch it out my hair is soft and volumized again So that's how my hair looked with the gel But today I use the defining cream the defining cream is supposed to lock in moisture D-frizz adds shine to those curls. All right, let's see about that. This is where I applied it to my hair I used it to refresh on day three added some more water Then I applied the cream all throughout my hair Smoothing it in and scrunching it up then after I let it dry it looked just like this Oh my goodness. Look how defined my curls are they look very shiny so Just so beautiful. I'm loving these results. So what you're looking at right now is actually How my hair ended up looking day three hair using just the cream to refresh Another really important thing that I have to tell you guys that I'm so excited to be able to share is that all these Products are made from a rice curl complex. So their main ingredient is not Coconut I know so many of you have wrote me saying that you're either allergic to coconut or your hair just does not like coconut But coconut is like an every curl hair product ever So this is a great alternative to those of you that don't want to use any type of coconut oil But we found something people the answer to your anti coconut needs all these not your mother products are sold exclusively at Ulta beauty right now and oh Ulta beauty that just so happens to be the place where my photo is curling on the wall So if you guys got a Ulta anytime soon around this video, you might see my photo up on the wall Make sure you take a picture and tag me so you guys might enter my Ulta giveaway But go get these products. They're amazing Bianca Renee approved You only can get the defining cream and the gel as of right now today in August But the shampoo and conditioner are coming soon Early September so that you can get these right now as of today of this upload check the date But then early September 2018 you can get the shampoo and conditioner the moose is also available if you guys don't mind silicone I guess you can get it But I would personally suggest waiting until they remove the silicone and then getting the new version of The moose so I don't know when that's gonna happen Make sure you guys follow me on Instagram Twitter and Snapchat at Miz Bianca Renee so I can let you know my stories And you'll be the first to know when the moose is Bianca approved But hey, not your mother's gave us some amazing products to work with right now I am fine with my gel and my styling cream. I don't know which one I like better I honestly think I thought I was gonna like the gel more but that cream That cream kind of did its thing today I don't know if you want more hold get the gel if you live in a humid area Get the gel if you're worried more about moisture and your hair looking like dry Then I get the cream. I haven't cocktailed both of them together yet That's probably gonna be my next experiment once again follow me on Instagram So I could show you how those results look at Miz Bianca Renee And I'm gonna try the cream first followed by the gel and see how they get along together I mean, that's what I know you guys like to do. I like one product to work on its own and they both work on their own If you enjoy my curly hair product reviews, make sure you give me a thumbs up and subscribe I post two new videos every week curly hair videos on Sundays and foundation Fridays on Friday And if you've tried these products, please leave me a comment down below and let me know how well they worked for you And your curls hope to see you guys in my next video. Thanks for watching Bianca Renee today