Oh, he got it. My friend got it. So okay, thanks. Great. Well, it's 502. We have 63 people with us. So let's get started. And thank you all for joining us tonight. I'm Marcy Winnigrad. I'm the coordinator of Codepin Congress. And I'm just thrilled to be with you. And with our co-hosts, we have a honey. Hi, honey. I'm the adventure man, Jody Evans, Carly town. So it should be a great evening we have with us tonight, Dr. Molina Abdullah, who as honey will explain in a minute is the co-founder of the LA chapter black lives matter. Also Reverend Leo Theo Harris, who is the co-director of the poor people's campaign. She'll talk about a moral budget and Carly town who is the national director at code pink. She's the leader of our divest from war campaign. And of course, Jody Evans, who with media Benjamin co-founded code pink, code pink. So it should be a great evening. And we're going to start with some updates. So, honey, why don't you go first introduce yourself and tell us about Iran. What's happening with that. So thank you so much, Marcy. It's good to be here. Thank you. Our honorable guests and speakers. My name is honey and Joe that Barnes I am the co-founder, co-founder and president of Muslim delegates and allies as well as we are launching the first non geographic co chapter of PDA progressive Democrats of America's Muslim and Middle East alliances with the sister Nadia Ahmed, which are very thrilled and excited about. And so I want to kind of talk about exactly what my mom and I spoke about with the confirmation and talks about confirming Mali and there are some mixed feelings coming out of Iran directly that, you know, some are very happy that there's going to be an opportunity for peace talks as well as the joining back the JCPOA. But some are concerned that going straight into talks and lifting the sanctions would give the government of Iran the opportunity to continue to do what they have been doing for the past decades. In terms of oppression and violation of human rights. And so there are some concerned feelings but I know media is going to touch upon this I'll hand it over to media but I am a bit concerned that Biden doesn't have a policy in place to join. And, and, you know, it is concerning because these sanctions as we've spoken about them before many times they are they're they're really crushing not only the economy but the population of 80 million, mostly predominantly young under the age of 40. So media handed over to you. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think a number of people who have been working on this for years are concerned that Biden just didn't say immediately after coming into power that he was going to rejoin the JCPOA and backing down and saying that he wouldn't lift sanctions. He's saying that the Iranians had to go into compliance first is very worrisome. So we will continue and in our call tonight we've added in to the action to call on Biden to rejoin the JCPOA right away. It's the US that pulled out. It's the US that has to go back in and Iran has said very clearly that they will go back into compliance once that happens. So let's give an update on Yemen, a big shout out and thanks to many of you who have been working on this issue for a long time, and joined us in the calls on this in the last couple of weeks. We had some really great news from the Biden administration that they were going to stop the support for the Saudi led war in Yemen freezing arm sales to Saudi Arabia that were used for offensive purposes, and a call to examine the sale of arms to the United States and also to take the Houthis off the terrorism list. Those are all extremely wonderful things it speaks to six years of activism within a broad community here in the United States, but there are things we still have to worry about that the war goes on. The US has to do more to pressure the Saudis. We don't really understand what the extent of the US pulling back means because there was also a call that the Biden said would continue to support the Saudis in their territorial sovereignty, and that can be an excuse for continuing intelligence shareings with the Saudis continue to train them spare parts and sell quote defensive weapons. So, we still have work to do but it's a great victory so far so thank you all who helped get this far. I'm going to provide an update on two items one. I'm sure some of us were watching the impeachment hearings today just in short the Senate voted 68 to 44 to move ahead with Trump's impeachment trial and the grounds that he incited an insurrection. One of the lawyers is saying this is another witch hunt, and we had I think six Republicans voting with the Democrats to go ahead. Cassidy Collins Romney Murkowski sass, and to me. I also wanted to provide an update on the ICC the International Criminal Court last week. It said it had the authority to investigate Israeli war crimes against the Palestinians and the occupied territories the territories occupied since 1967 Gaza the West Bank and East Jerusalem. So, this is is could be monumental you know in terms of world opinion. Israel was all set to Israel was all set to go ahead with annexation this summer, you know so hopefully this will put a break on that further annexation and settlements the ICC prosecutor also may be investigating crimes by Hamas or alleged crimes by Hamas. The, of course, this has elicited outrage from the Prime Minister of Israel who's charging as the often does that any criticism or charge pertaining to Israeli brutality is anti semitism. Unfortunately, the Biden administration has also expressed concern about this and is saying that the ICC has no right to investigate Israel Israeli war crimes against Palestinians because Palestine is not a state. However, Palestine has observer state status in the United Nations it has been recognized as an independent state by over 138 UN members. So the ICC said, we're going ahead and we can't stop us. So I think it's really important that all of us weigh in. There is a way to contact the White House, just Google contact the White House and tell them that, you know, really disappointed that they are expressing concern. And now, prior to Trump leaving office, he signed an executive order saying that anyone who any lawyers who worked for the ICC or supported the ICC in any way, could be fined and travel their visas could be confiscated. The, some of the lawyers took this to court and the US District Court, Federal District Court recently ruled that in favor of an injunction and saying that this is not constitutional lawyers have First Amendment rights. So there is a clamor for Biden to lift this executive order in the meantime, the courts are not honoring it. So that's, that's good news. Stay tuned. Moving on, I'd like this point for Hania to introduce our first guest. Go ahead. Absolutely. It's my pleasure. Whoa. Right. What that said. Nobody needs to be needed. I don't know if Mary can figure out. Yeah, they've been, they've been removed. Thank you so much. Dr. Malina Abdullah, my sister, my mentor, is an American academic and civil leader. She is the chair of the Department of Pan African Studies at California State University Los Angeles and co founder of the Los Angeles chapter of Black Lives Matter. She graduated from Howard University where she earned her bachelor's degree in African American studies. She subsequently earned her master's degree and doctoral degree in political science from University of Southern California. Dr. Abdullah is a self-described womanist scholar activist. She has said that her academic roles are connected with her activist role in fighting for liberating those who have been exploited many times. She serves on several boards, including Black community, clergy and labor alliances, Los Angeles community action network, and strategic concepts in organizing and policy education and just recently joined the board of Muslim delegates and allies, which we're very, very proud of. She was interviewed in 13th in 2016 documentary about mass incarceration in the United States and Malina Abdullah has served on the Los Angeles County of Human Relations Commission since 2014. Sister, it is an honor to be here with you and I want to welcome you to please take the floor. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be among you and to hear about all of the tremendous work that's moving. Let me find this court. Hold on one second. My computer is going to die. Hold up. I thought I was all charged up and then the alert went on. So I just want to I'm grateful for the opportunity to check in and kind of talk about the work that's moving in Black Lives Matter, which is something that I call my sacred duty. It's not my job as Sister Hania shared I have an actual job. But this is the work that I feel that my foremothers pulled me into. And so I have some updates for you. I also have spaces that we're asking for your support on. Even as we move into a moment where folks are feeling like we can read a little bit easier. We're not under the same kind of constant assault. We have to remember that the world wasn't just transformed when Donald Trump was ushered out of office that the systems that are in place continue to target a press and a sale black folks in particular. And one of the things that we lift up is that there's still a such thing as liberal white supremacy. And so some of the folks that some of you probably call friends right because they speak more gently. They have a black friend or two that come over to their dinner parties. And they point to kind of work that they've done in black community, usually in places like now I'm going to give away who I'm talking about. They were in the Peace Corps in Ethiopia they'll say right and so that demonstrates that they must not be white supremacists. That's actually false. And one of the readings that many of us have done recently is how to be an anti racist.  And if you just because you may have never used the n word does not make you an anti racist.  And especially during Black History Month we're kind of looking to the past. The earrings that I'm wearing are of San Cofo birds right which is an African principle about looking to the past in order to move forward and really imagine an usher in a black future that's more free. Right. And so there's lots that's moving. So Black Lives Matter I'm also co director of Black Lives Matter grassroots which is the on the ground organizing work for Black Lives Matter chapters around the globe. And one of the things that we're moving are some demands for our lawmakers right so of course all of us are hoping and many of us were probably cheering as we saw the absolute abysmal job that the Trump lawyer did today right we want to see him both impeached and prosecuted we want him barred from ever being able to seek future office. But there's a set of demands that goes much further than that as many of you know Black Lives Matter is an abolitionist organization. We understand what scholar Manning Marible said that the systems under which we live were intentionally and deliberately designed to produce the outcomes that they do. And so as we talk about assaults on people around the globe. We have to remember that black folks in this country also experienced militarism all also experienced state sanctioned violence also experienced assaults as if we were enemy combatants rather than residents and citizens of this country. And so it's important that we fight militarism at home and the oppression that black people feel at home as well so Black Lives Matter is an abolitionist organization seeking to topple the systems of policing and prisons that have never brought safety for anybody. Even though they try to dupe you into believing that they do. We have to remember that policing in this country evolves out of slave catching just as ridiculous as it would be to say well we don't want to end slavery and chattel slavery. We just want to reform it. That's the same ridiculousness with which we must meet those who say let's reform police. You can't reform a policing system that evolves out of slave catching right. Similarly when we talk about prisons prisons don't keep us safe and Ava DuVernay brilliantly lays that out in the film 13. And so we're working towards toppling those systems and one of the things that Barack Obama was enlisted to say about us is that our defund the police call was simply a snappy slogan. We want to remind folks that that's not a snappy slogan that is a policy demand right. We don't believe in a world where you spend in Los Angeles we're now spending 54% of the city's general fund on LAPD. Most major cities are spending upwards of 50% of their unrestricted funds on police abolitionism says that one policing is not the answer to our problems. In fact, if you look at what happens police are not even qualified to do many of the jobs that they've been paid to do. So they're not qualified to be mental health providers they're not qualified to do homework in the park with our kids. They're not qualified to even play basketball with our children. We need recreation workers mental health workers. We need educators to be doing that work. We know in cities like Newark New Jersey where they have made investments in community driven public safety options you actually see crime climate. But even in the jobs that police say that they're qualified to do. We see them being dismal failures right so a recent report came out that said police are only successful in solving 2% of violent crime. So why are we spending the majority of our resources on police. So we're saying that we want to divest from there so that we can invest in the places that we actually need the funds. We've issued demands the BLM demands are at BLM demands.org we're asking for everybody to sign on the demands include everything from barring Trump from further office through impeachment and prosecution to making sure that we read Congress of the Republican law lawmakers who were part of the failed coup on the Capitol. We want to make sure that we divest from police and prisons and invest in things that make community safe. We want to pass something called the Breathe Act which I hope all of you will read and advocate for and then locally we want to make sure that you do work to partner with your local Black Lives Matter chapters so that we can work on a people's budget in Los Angeles. Some of you know that we've been organizing for more than a year now at peoplesbudgetla.com where we've been exposing this overspending on police and demanding spending on the things that create safe communities. We did a survey that checked in with more than 25,000 Angelenos. We found that overwhelmingly the people stood on the side of Black Lives Matter. They said that we want to spend our first policy priority is making sure people have what they need, meeting what we call the universal needs of people, housing, mental health, other kinds of community resources. Their second priority was the built environment, parks and libraries and those kinds of things. And then their third priority was alternative approaches to public safety. Their last priority was the traditional approaches to public safety that we see come with police. And so they wanted to spend the support for police was at only 5.3% before George Floyd's murder and after George Floyd's murder dropped to 1.7%. So we can have conversations about how to build a people's budget. We're demanding that local and state and federal elected officials engage in a session and participatory budgeting sessions so that they can get from they can gauge from community. What it is we actually want to spend on and we can invest in those things I'll close with this. We're in the midst of an unprecedented health pandemic with an unprecedented economic fallout that has a vastly disproportionate impact on black people.  We should be investing our dollars and building strong black communities and by extension making the world and making our communities safer and better and more prosperous for everyone. And so we love to get your support on that work and hope that this is one of many conversations that we'll be having moving forward. Thank you so much, Dr Abdullah everything that you said resonated so much with me and you know it's such a parallel universe where we the answer to our communities from corporate politicians is policing the answer to make the world safer is you know, weaponizing the world. And so on two fronts, we have to be vigilant about pushing back and challenging all of this militarization so if you wouldn't mind putting the calls to action in the chat that you mentioned. And also if you can perhaps email honey those calls and I can include them in an email blast will go out tomorrow morning along with the tape of this event. Okay, and I think it's terrific that you're joining us and we look forward to our relationship. Great. All right, Jodi. I think you're next you're going to introduce our next guest, and we're going to take questions after we hear from our next guest. There are a number of questions coming in the chat so we're okay. Thank you, Dr Abdullah. Yeah policing and warmongering take a majority of our tax dollars. So both need to end to shift those funds to the needs of our communities. It's really great that Reverend Liz Theo Harris has decided to join us tonight. She's a brilliant strategist teacher writer political activists, Presbyterian minister and the co chair, along with Reverend barber of the poor people's campaign Reverend Theo Harris also writes op eds across the media landscape almost weekly to connect the issues of the moment to the needs of the people. And she was Shelly Barnes and the team at Institute for Religious Rights and Social Justice at Union Theological Seminary. She's the author of always with us what Jesus really said about the poor. She also writes op eds across the media landscape almost weekly to connect the issues of the moment to the needs of the people. And she was Shelly Barnes and the team at Institute for Policy Studies built the poor people's moral budget, which has been a blueprint to work with Congress on addressing the needs of the poor poverty racism militarism and the needs of the planet. This is like the la people's budget that we need to be through study. Oh, did you just freeze. No, you're back. You froze a little bit. Oh, sorry. This is a brilliant movement. Strategist who has built a movement of the poor and their allies who have already moved Congress far on the issues. And they are already affecting the Biden administration. Thank you for joining us tonight Reverend. Thank you so much, Jodi and it's so good to be with everybody. I love Code Pink and any opportunity I have to be with you all is a really a good, a good one. I was thinking a little bit about the words of Dr. Melina Abdullah, and wanted to share a quote from Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King that I think I should speak to this moment and also speaks to the need of us as people of all walks of life that are working to demand justice and peace and doing so with with all types of direct action and other kind of tools and and Dr. King, you know, back in 64 talked about, you know, kind of critiquing white liberals. And I was thinking about that a bunch this week last week and and as we kind of see what's happening in the, in the national agenda, he said, we do not need allies more devoted to order than to justice. I hear a lot of talk these days about our direct action talk out alienating former friends. I would rather feel they are bringing to the surface latent prejudices prejudices that are already there. If our direct action programs alienate our friends. They never were really our friends. And so I, I wanted to bring that to start off the conversation. And then now to kind of move towards a little bit about the poor people's campaign, and especially the moral budget that Jodi referred to. So the poor people's campaign a national call for moral revival launched about three years ago around the 50th anniversary of the poor people's campaign that welfare rights leaders, native and indigenous leaders and, and Dr. King and others called for and called for out of really the kind of beyond Vietnam and analysis of the intersection of racism and poverty and militarism. We, we launched tackling five injustices, systemic racism, poverty, ecological devastation militarism in the war economy, and then this distorted moral narrative of religious nationalism, Christian nationalism that we saw so prevalent at the capital on January 6 but have been, you know, really a reality of our, of our political landscape for a while. With what we, what we, what we see, and what we're doing is that by shifting the narrative around these issues, getting our nation to talk and act about the issues that impact 140 million people who are poor, or one storm one healthcare crisis one job loss away from from economic ruin, shifting the narrative that this is as good as it gets that we have to have constant war and conflict that that it's the, it's poor people, poor people and people of color and immigrants and women and queer people that are to blame for all society's problems, shifting the narrative that we have to just fight each other instead of kind of come together and power, and then trying to build up up the power up the influence of the force, the nonviolent force of the people. And when we launched, we put together an audit, we looked at the issues over the past decades of poverty of racism of the attack on voting rights on mass incarceration on the militarized budgets of both our state and local municipalities as well as our nation and world. We looked at, you know, the issues of pollution and of the destruction of the earth. And, and so that we could, we could put forward solutions to these problems and not just kind of curse the darkness. We then put together a poor people's moral budget, and in that budget and and that's still the kind of defining work that that we're doing. We say that we could cut our nation's military budget and have still have a larger military budget than the nations in the world, hundreds of them are combined, make our world a whole hell of a lot safer, that we can institute a fair taxation system, and we can invest in the kinds of programs and issues and safety nets that that actually lift people up, that actually, you know, we could build green jobs we could build up health care we could build up living wage jobs. And that that when we do this that that will kind of lift all of society we have a saying in our work that when we lift from the bottom everybody rises. And so, so, so that budget then helped us to pull together a legislative agenda. And we launched that this past June, when we gathered about 3 million poor and low income people and, and our allies and friends and for a mass poor people's assembly and moral March on Washington we had to do it online because of the pandemic. But it was a powerful assembly and, and, and digital March, and we are deeply committed to as soon as there is some amount of curbing of this deadly virus and people are more safe to be able to be out and get engaged in large scale protests that we will indeed be having to go to Washington DC and bringing poor people in huge numbers to continue to, to demand, you know, the, the, the needs of, again, more than half of the population be at the front and center of our of our of our country and and of the world. We put forth a 14 policy priorities that that are are what the poor people's campaign is organizing for for the first 100 days of the, the Biden Harris administration. And we try to see in those policy priorities everything from COVID relief to healthcare to the sort of demilitarization of our communities and of our country, and seeing that that that all of these issues are connected. And that, you know, again the weak point the Achilles heel of the systems of racism on a poverty of militarism of this war economy of the devastation of the earth and everything living in an on it. That the weak point of that is for people to come together across all the lines that divide us and build a powerful movement from below and so.  They're all up on our website. And, and right now we are indeed organizing, you know, we're doing online world Mondays on Mondays and looking at the different policy priorities, trying to make sure, you know, every week that people see the connections between a militarized budget, a war economy, and systemic racism. See the connections between the destruction of the earth and people not having health care, and see that it doesn't have to be this way that that it's going to take a massive movement made up of people like that are gathered here, but that we can change, and we can kind of lift from the bottom. So, so, you know, much of our work is about building this power to be able to, you know, again in the words of Dr King make the power structures of this nation say yes, when they may be desirous of saying no so far we've been hearing a lot of no to to health care no to paid sick leave no to actually including all minimum wage workers and some minimum wage workers in the razorway jack no to, you know, ending sanctions yes to more war, you know, yes to more militarization of our border and of the interior, and, and, and what it's going to take is for for those of us, you know, to be able to kind of come together and together and organize and so, you know, I, we are always looking for for partners in this work, the way the People's Campaign is organized is that we are in 43 states across the country run by local folk impacted leaders moral leaders activists advocates organizers from all walks of life, who are are seeing that it doesn't have to be this way and you know, we need to turn, you know, this, this kind of fracture democracy and war economy into into, you know, as we've learned from Jody and you all piece economies and so. So it's, it's great to be here I'm looking forward to us doing more work together and you know we say in our work for together not one step back and so I, I, I say that to you all now. Thank you so much Reverend Theo Harris is wonderful to have you and to know that we will be partnering with you as we go forward in this work. There are a number of questions in the chat honey if you want to read one we can take turns. Okay, I have a question first for Dr Abdullah, if you could say some of the positive things that you've seen so far from the Biden administration and maybe something you weren't expecting that has they've come out with so far and Reverend Liz, perhaps if you could talk about the, the poor people's agenda and compare it to the congressional with a progressive caucuses agenda where do they mesh and where might there be differences. Thank you so much. So thank you and not thank you for the question, because I have to admit that there's some things where I've kind of stuck my foot in my mouth on. I wasn't expecting a lot from the Biden Harris administration and before I go there I just want to say hi Liz. We have Alejandra Marchewski in common right yeah. Good to see you. Yes. So I think we weren't prepared. We were encouraging and hopeful that we would get to a conversation about ending white supremacy. And I think after the failed coup on the Capitol. Joe Biden's willingness to speak out and rhetorically at least talk about ending white supremacy as one of his top priorities is something that I wasn't expecting and I'm going to be very candid I was not a supporter of Joe Biden. I didn't even, I live in California so don't hate me but I didn't even vote for Joe Biden I wrote in Leon Castro as my presidential pick right. But again I live in California, right so I didn't, you know, I got to say that because my mother was really upset when I did that. I wasn't expecting the kind of narrative and language that he was using. We had also been really frustrated by the new administration because we requested a meeting. And the president confirmed that he was the president elect and he completely ignored black lives matter which was also problematic. Especially since we actually had a fairly cordial and even friendly working relationship with Kamala Harris. So we're hopeful we're in a space where we're hopeful that we can push them that we'll be able to push them on, you know, federal legislation like the Breathe Act, that we'll be able to push them on how do we end white supremacy and what role they can play right. We want to push them. Also some of the things that are being raised around international policy that is hugely problematic and one of the first things that they began advancing so it's not enough to just say we're going to end white supremacy. We need to think about and engage in policy work that actually ends white supremacy. And so those are the kinds of things that we're seeing in terms of engagement. We have since been reached out to by his administration and had preliminary conversations, but we believe that black people and black organizers on the ground, especially. And black lives matter specifically should be at the core of conversation around what racial justice means and what ending white supremacy looks like. Awesome so I'll jump into to the other question with the idea that you you post. People might be familiar that before the new year, the Congressional Progressive Caucus unveiled actually alongside the poor people's campaign and then about 100 organizations. They're priorities for the first six months of the new administration of the Biden Harris administration, the 117th Congress. And, you know, I think one of the things that we were, we were quite pleased about was how much they, they relied on our legislative agenda and our priorities and our Jubilee platform and our budget. When they were working on their priorities. You know, I think part of what we've been calling for for from our beginning is for for elected leadership to take up the demands of the 140 million poor and low income people. You know, our job is to build power amongst the people to push. And, and so we were, we were pleased that that this was something we could help unveil. And that there wasn't much that was being asked for that was let we don't, we at the poor people's campaign don't endorse things that are less than our demands, which means, you know, our demands come out of the struggles and and the, the fights of grassroots leaders, whether it's folks that are fighting the privatization of their water and Detroit and Flint or whether it's folks, you know, trying to demilitarize the border in El Paso.  And, and we agree with them. And so the, the progressive caucus, you know, did put out a pretty comprehensive, you know, set of priorities. I mean, it's about putting money in people's pockets.  It's about defeating the virus and making sure that we have universal vaccination. It's about, you know, funding of state, local and tribal governments to make sure that they have the resources to be providing critical services. You know, there's, there's some really good stuff there around, you know, renewable energy economy and giving workers more power. And what they will be doing over the next couple of months will be putting forward 15 to 18 legislative bills, you know, one is this around the raising wages. You know, I think our, our take on it is that we were able to be pleased that this was coming out, and it doesn't go far enough. And I think that that's constantly where we're going to be is that, you know, you know, what do we want, we want all of it, when do we want it now, right. And, but we still are pleased that, you know, that, that it that again that that that poor and low income organizing people could have such an impact. You know, one of the places that it didn't go far enough, and our estimation was around the militarization and demilitarization of our budget, right. You know, and, and I'm sure folks here are very aware of the fact that, you know, we have put out, you know, $350 billion have to be cut from the budget from the military budget.  But, but there hasn't been, they have not taken that part of our agenda up, let's say, in a big way, you know, we've heard that we've had an impact on the fact that a lot more people voted, you know, for the 10% cut. But we will keep on pushing, because, you know, the 300, you know the 50% cut is is is also not enough. You know, totally agree with you and in fact it could think we looked at your, your cuts and we adopted quite a few of them along with the project on government oversight and we're going to share later on in the zoom a link where people can look at your budget and our budget and we're all calling for, you know, substantive cuts, third or 70%. All right. Let's continue. Thank you so much. Next question. I know there are a lot of questions here. There's an interest around the subject of capitalism and I'll post this to both Reverend Liz as well as Dr Abdullah fire sheet mentions that we cannot abolish police without getting rid of capitalism. What are your thoughts as well as Sarah Dean also wants to know how to how connecting capitalism to to police and how we can solve that issue. If we live in a capitalistic country. Yep. Yeah, that's right. I'll say this just the people's budget work is really important and I'm really grateful I'm sorry I haven't been keeping up with the budget work that you've been doing very closely through the poor people's campaign but you know I've been present when you were here in Los Angeles and work with Pastor Eddie a lot here and sister Margaret and lots of other folks but I haven't been keeping up really closely with the budget work. And I think defunding the police is one of the ways we get to kind of weakening that structure. I agree that the capitalist system and policing are completely tied together. And I think that by weakening policing, we kind of also get to how unjust the capitalist system is and I'll say I'll say that and leave it there but we could have longer conversations maybe offline about what what that looks like I think defund the police though is a start in that direction. Yeah, I don't I don't have to jump in for too much longer I mean again our analysis is that systemic racism and poverty, ecological devastation and a militarized economy war economy, as well as this distorted narrative, all have to be done away with right and you know what Dr King talked about was that that would that would take a revolution of values, and that that the current system kind of couldn't hold, and that you couldn't get rid of one without getting rid of the others and but but that's why he proposed, you know, organizing and uniting for people across all the lines that divide us, because they could be a new and unsettling force right and so I think, you know, austerity, you know, triple down, we know that everything does not does not work. It never has but it's, it's, it's definitely more people are seeing that in this moment. And, you know, for sure. It wasn't just complicity and collusion at the Capitol with the police and law enforcement that that's that's what they're set up to do. They're set up to beat up us and to keep us out and they're set up to keep the status quo and white supremacy alive and well and so, indeed, they're, you know, we got to do something about that. But but how do you do it but but to organize, you know, from Bona. The next question is for Dr Abdullah and then I do have one for for Reverend Liz. Dr Abdullah does defunding the police means zeroing them out. And the next question would be from Stephanie who says in my experience it is more difficult to organize for people how do we do it. So defunding the police is a step towards abolition, right so there's different ways in which we defund the police. I think that what we're talking about in some spaces I want to use an example from la usd where our children have demanded the defunding of school police which makes logical sense right. They're spending tens of millions of dollars on police for schools that aren't even open. And so the children were brilliant in demanding that la school police be defunded they were able to get a 35% cut to school police, but they're now saying we're coming back for all of it. We want all of it so that we can spend those dollars on counselors and librarians and people to help them with, you know, having to go to zoom school, right. And so this is what the children are doing and they're demanding 100% defunding of school police. We've picked that up in the university system and I was fortunate enough to co author a piece with Angela Davis and Robin Kelly. That's saying in the university system beginning with the public university system we also want to defund the police. More general police departments, we can defund as much as we can. And when we cut them back I think there's almost universal agreement, no matter where people are on the political spectrum that's spending 50% of your money on police fund on police is simply outrageous and unacceptable. And so I think we beat it back as far as we can go but we also recognize that when we say defund the police we're coupling that with reimagining public and investing those dollars in community driven approaches to public safety. So yes, the prize for us the win for us the ultimate victory for us is completely defunding police and abolishing policing as we know it, and building up community driven solutions to public safety. I mean I think about organizing. I mean I think I'm on a call with organizers and so we all know organizing is hard, you know, you have to be persistent, it takes a long time you got to keep on doing things over and over and over again, right. And definitely organizing among folks that, you know, don't have enough, you know whether it's that people's utilities have been cut off and the internet is down and there's not enough food for food for for meetings and not enough money for transportation. But you know again if we follow history, and those who have, you know, actually brought about significant transformations and in this country and around the world, you know, I follow the words of Frederick Douglas, those who would be free must strike the first blow those in pain to leave. And, and across the country in this moment. What we're finding is that for and low income people are not waiting for other people to organize them. They're not waiting to be saved by politicians in Washington or anywhere else, but that people are taking bold action.  When you when you pull people together in ways that they haven't been pulled together before and in also ways that is what you always do in organizing that that you indeed, you know, can can organize especially from below and so, you know, if, I mean, there's a lot to say, and I'm sure folks here have a lot more to say in terms of how do you organize, let alone how do you organize amongst those who are who are struggling, except for there's powerful organizing if we are appreciative of the fact that there are, you know, moratoriums on evictions, it's because poor people organize for those and for appreciative of the fact that we have, you know, you know, any workers rights is because poor people organize for this. So much of the gains that have been made in this moment and in history is, is because of that organizing. I want to thank both of you so much for joining us. We have another speaker and an action that we're going to follow through on. And please, we encourage you to put anything that you want in the chat or how people can follow up I'm sure there are a lot of questions that people didn't get to answer. We certainly want to have you back and continue this relationship so thank you so much, Reverend Liz Dio Harris and Dr. Malin Abdullah, it's been terrific and so informative and inspiring to have you with us tonight. At this point we're going to turn to one of our own code pink staff members and media says thank you to everybody wants to if you want to unmute people. Thank you to mute quickly to give a big shout out. Thank you to wonderful amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. All right, so Carly town is the national co director of code pink. And she's the leader of our divest from war deep on the Pentagon campaign. So Carly is here tonight to tell us about that campaign and what we can do to advance that campaign welcome Carly. So much Marcy and hi everyone. Thank you again to Dr. Dylan Reverend Dio Harris always amazing to hear you speak. I'm going to start off just by sharing my screen with everyone here. I have a short presentation to just kind of go over some of those next steps I think that all of us I think a no are so important so let me just get that started here. All right. Okay, so as Marcy said, my name is Carly town and I do work on our divest from the war machine campaign at code peach, which works to divest our schools, our cities, our politicians and other financial institutions from the war machine, as well as work to defund the Pentagon which is something we're going to talk quite a bit about today. So first though, our divest from the war machine campaign operates from a really simple premise which I think everyone here will agree with. If we're going to end war, we need to stop allowing companies to profit from going to war. Right. So, you know, one key aspect of our campaign involves understanding how war profits years, and that includes companies that produce the weapons of war exert so much influence over our politicians right so you know weapons manufacturers in particular use their huge profits to fund the campaigns of politicians, and those same politicians vote to extend existing wars, engage in new conflicts, and really importantly steadily increase the Pentagon budget every year. Right, so it's the cyclical process that we see. Obviously this doesn't capture all of the ways in which our politicians are really heavily influenced by war profits years. But I think importantly, as Reverend Theo Harris said as as organizers it does offer us, and anyone who wants to end war for profit reduce the Pentagon budget and end the militarization of the police. It offers us a really important site for intervention. So I'm going to talk about that a little bit more today. So first right let's just take a step back and just kind of understand the scale of the problem and how campaign contributions from weapons companies present such an enormous and just extreme conflict of interest right so in 2021. The Pentagon budget is $740 billion, which means we'll spend over a million dollars a minute on the Pentagon. And you can see here half of that budget will go directly to private defense contractors, including weapons companies like Raytheon North up Grumman, Boeing, etc. Right. And also this represents 164% increase in spending on private contractors since 2001. Super important to know. Okay, but also right given that we're having this conversation about demilitarizing our police forces. We have to understand that we dedicate so much of the Pentagon budget to creating and maintaining weapons. But the US military has enough excess quote unquote excess military grade weaponry to send to local police forces through a program called the 1033 program. The 1033 program was created in the 1990s during the war on drugs, and since then has transferred at least $7.4 billion in excess property, including weapons to police forces around the country. And people can see that's, you know, a heavily militarized police officer at protests over the summer, May of 2020. So, you know, we've been code peak members and people here supported efforts to eliminate the 1033 program in 2020 will continue to do so moving forward. But you know, given just these outrageous statistics about our politicians and how they vote and spend more and more every year, really to line the pockets of private defense contractors, and how those same military grid weapons are then used in the streets against some of the most marginalized in our communities, people of color, poor people around the country. What can we do, right? That's obviously why we're here today. So, a recent study from the Security Policy Reform Institute found a direct correlation between contributions from the defense industry and voting to maintain or increase military spending. So you'll see on that chart that correlation between these companies donating to our politicians and them deciding to every year increase the Pentagon budget. So what are we going to do today we're calling on everyone to reach out to their congressional representatives to sign the code pink pledge to commit to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons companies. I want to show people the pledge. So this is our pledge that we're sending to our politicians, calling on them to commit to refuse money from weapons makers around the country and also from the NRA. So I want to show you who has committed to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons companies so far. You can see them on the left there. The representative signed our pledge, likely not, right? We need so much more work to do around this and that's why I'm really excited that everyone here is ready to do that today. And, you know, having your congressional representative sign on to our pledge to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons companies is really, really important, right? But as Marcy mentioned earlier, we also need to show our politicians that we have really concrete ways they can reduce the Pentagon budget and invest in our local communities. So up there is the URL to go to our code pink guide to Pentagon budget cuts. But I also want, and we'll post that on the chat as well. But I also want to make sure people get just a quick sense of what this entails. So as you can see, if you go to that webpage, you'll see the cuts that we're proposing. These are, you know, you can see a couple of them here and how much we could save by cutting various programs in the Pentagon budget. And the total potential savings that we have calculated is $540 billion a year or a 73% reduction in the Pentagon budget. So those are all really important ways to show our politicians that we have real ways to cut the Pentagon budget. So now I want to turn it over to Marcy. We're going to take some action together. We'll post all of these links in the chat box, but just so everyone can see them on the page here. And I will go ahead and stop sharing my screen and pass it over to Marcy. Thank you so much, Carly for all the work, incredible work you're doing on this divest campaign. It's impressive to see that we have a core group. Now we just need to build on that. So tonight, Mary, if you could please post again in the chat, the action that we're going to take. Maybe we should also share our screen. We have 132 people still with us and we basically what we're going to be doing is calling our reps, leaving a message, your congressional representative, asking your representative to do two things. One, two, we'll give them a way to do that. Perhaps somebody can. Notice if you can please mute yourself, that would be wonderful. Thank you. So we're going to ask our reps to sign the pledge by contacting Codepin. And then we're also going to give them a link to the Pentagon, our recommended Pentagon cuts and ask them to look at that. We also want to relay the urgency with which we want them to speak up about Biden, not rejoining the Iran deal and lifting those sanctions and I don't know what he's doing, you know, he appointed Robert Malley the 2015 negotiator for the Iran deal so that was a positive sign, but lately he seems to be backing off from his commitment to rejoin. So we want to make sure that our representatives speak up about this, you know, he's jeopardizing world peace in, and not doing so. So, Mary, are you able to post that in the chat and maybe maybe we could share the screen to I will share my screen and they did post in the chat and I also posted the links to the page on our website where you can automatically be connected to call and email. Okay. All right, so there's a Capitol Hill switchboard.  And then we ask that you also email your representative tonight you can use this put it in your own words whatever you want to do. So those are the actions for tonight and we ask that you follow up with your representative so now you're asking them for the first time to sign this pledge. They can find out in a week or two did they do anything and follow up and ask your friends please whatever whatever actions we share with you. We do so in the spirit that you will share it you will in turn share them with your lists of friends or on social media. All right, let's make some calls. Oh, and just one other thing that the link that Mary just put in the automatic one. If you do that as well, you'll get a chance to send an automatic tweet and put it on your Facebook so please do that. That helps to spread the word. Thank you. Done done done. And before we lose anybody let's tell them about next week, Marcy. So next week, we are going to have Barbara Lee and Mark. They were going to join us earlier but then the impeachment impeachment issue came up and certainly they had to be on the floor for that, but they will be with us to talk about the their caucus, the defense spending reduction caucus and and we'll be following up with our reps on that too. So without further ado let's all get on the phone or send an email I'd like to see everybody moving forward with this action alert thank you so much. And people are asking if the offices are open for calls during COVID you'll get a machine machine all the time so you might as well call now. And of course follow up another time but yes, they'll take messages. So everyone it is wonderful to see you all saying in the chat that you have taken action I'm so glad that you all are, you know getting involved with this and it seems to be working out well hopefully. Enough of us keep doing these actions, our voices will be heard. So, I'll leave the screen up for a few more minutes if you're still still. Is, please post a link directly to the pledge. Yes. And I love all the people saying how happy they are to be doing the action. Yeah, action ours. Mary, this is Carly. Yes, you can find the pledge it's right there actually if you click on it right there it's right on your screen. I know but I just wanted to get the URL so they can everybody can have it. But it's it is linked right on the action. So this link I've sent to you times I can send it again down here you can contact automatically and also it's linked to the pledge. And I did link to the pledge in the chat but it's kind of a scary link so this one is nice and easy to remember. Thank you Mary that's great. So we can go ahead and start to kind of wind down now I will leave up the action still for a few more minutes, but thank you all for coming it has been wonderful to see these events be so successful and so well attended. Okay, maybe we can just stay stay on a little bit longer. I think everybody a chance contact their representative and senators. And again, please do talk up this pledge. Share it with others very few may know about it. And it could be a powerful tool. Thank you Sarah Dean. Yes, what the message. Okay. Sarah said where can I easily grab the text for the email. I'll be sending out an email either tonight or tomorrow morning. And I'll have the text of this action alert in the email along with recording a link to our recording. In case anyone didn't see the last link that was just posted. There's a part where you could just put in your address and then it'll automatically do the emails so that was super convenient. And I just say sorry I was late and it's great to see you all. Right are we good. Yeah. All right how many are still with us Mary, you know I can't even see oh I 53 that's great. 53 terrific. And I see John right. Okay. We'll be in touch. Oh also finally I know Gonzalo responded. Please Mary, you could before people leave post the signup sheet if they want to be a liaison in their congressional district. I'll leave that link. And if anybody wants to isn't in the Google group and wants to be you can just email me mercy at code pink.org. Okay, yes, Gonzalo maybe you can email me tomorrow. Marcia code pink.org and I'll send that off to you. Okay. All right great. Fantastic thank you all for joining us tonight. Honey I can't hear you. Oh, here we go. I'm going to say another successful event. This is really great. So on behalf of all of us that could paint thank you again, and we'll see you next week same time. It's the same zoom link. I see if you use that again. Thank you. Thank you everyone for participating being here. We can unmute and just say when we organize we win. When we organize. Thank you. Thank you all. Good night. Thank you.


There is a very bright very large anomalous object in the skies near the permit locked regions close to Barnard's loop It appears to be Thargoid in origin and it appears to be moving If you haven't already consider liking and subscribing to the channel and select all notifications to ensure that you don't miss any future Elite Dangerous content and to directly support our channel. You can also join our patreon. You'll find everything you need linked below Late on Tuesday evening UK time Reports started to emerge of Thargoid hyperdictions happening near the permit locked regions around Barnard's loop. The hyperdictions themselves were not of an unusual nature being the regular stop and search non-aggressive behavior from the Thargoids that we'd become used to. What was initially unusual however was the location whilst it's absolutely typical for hyperdictions to occur in the space surrounding areas frequented by the Thargoids themselves such as the Pleiades, Colesack and Witchhead sectors It is almost completely unheard of outside of those areas save from cases where the Thargoids themselves are on the move The area near Barnard's loop is heavily permit locked and it's long been suspected that all that permit locked space is Indeed the source of the Thargoids Those commanders that have been with the game since its early days will doubtless remember the gnosis incident where Canon interstellar research Attempted to jump their megaship into the permit locked region only for it to be jumped by swarms of Thargoids The hyperdiction however is not the biggest aspect of this story not by a long shot Independent pilots have begun swarming to the area not to experience the fairly typical Hyperdictions but instead to observe a new anomalous object that can be seen in the skies on the other side of the permit lock The anomaly appears to be extremely large given the distances We're dealing in it's very bright and exhibits a swirling spiral type pattern very similar to almost everything We see that is Thargoid in origin What's more there are now multiple reports backed by video evidence that the object is moving Further if players point their on board FSS scanner in the direction of the anomaly it is very definitely making a noise as can be heard in this clip When the news began to circulate through the community both Canon and the anti-zeno initiative immediately issued red alerts This is a breaking story Observations are still very much an ongoing process at this point But the conclusion that many commanders are coming to is that this is the first sign of an approaching Thargoid hive ship These colossal vessels have been spoken about in law and in logs found in the game But if this is indeed a Thargoid hive vessel, then it's the first time evidence of one's existence has been directly observed More observations are needed to determine an exact course and community Science is ongoing as I speak these words But if the anomaly is headed our way then the two most immediate and obvious candidate destinations are of course soul and HIP 22460 Thargoids have not traditionally generally speaking been immediately hostile the Thargoids around HIP 22460 Following the Proteus event have changed in that regard But Thargoids away from the scene of salvation's failure have shown no obvious change in behavior if this anomaly is indeed a Thargoid vessel then its specific intentions as well as its destination are yet to be fully determined As soon as we know any more will keep you advised on this very channel If you want to check out the anomaly for yourself, I've put a system in the video description from where it can currently be observed What are your thoughts on this new phenomena? Will you be heading out to visit it? And what do you believe its intentions to be? Let us know in the comments below. That's it for now Thanks very much for watching if you enjoyed this video consider subscribing to the channel and maybe take a look at one of our other Videos linked on screen right now


The Nationals take Game 1 of the World Series, the Astros lose Game 1 of the 7-game set for the second time. Let's dive in. What's going on everybody? Thank you for joining us, Talking Baseball, in which we will talk about the World Series, the first ever World Series game review in Talking Baseball history. Wow, iconic moment, remember this forever. My name's John Boy, I'm coming to you from New Jersey. I got my calls from Jake, coming to you from Denver. He's wearing a nice red vest and a backwards white dad hat.  But first, we've got to give it up to Luis Robles, Larry Litchie Jr., and Jonas Huazberg, Jonas Weisberg. Those are our most recent Patreon supporters. They're bringing you this show. We appreciate them. We appreciate you. Jakey Baer, how are you doing? Thanks, Jonas. I'm doing good. Well, this isn't my first World Series episode of Talking Baseball. I did something in 1993. It wasn't the same format.  I did Talking Baseball. You were four years old. This is me and my dog, Max. Yeah, you were Talk Baseball. Oh, without that World Series. May he rest in peace. Ah, nah. He ate deer. The neighbors hunted deer and brought it home. He ate some of the deer because they left it out, died of Lyme disease. Max did? Yeah. Deers got him. Got it from the deer. So I'm doing pretty good. I mean, great game, great baseball. It was a good game. I'm pretty happy with the game. A lot of the stars came to the forefront, which I like. And I think that Soto dude might be special. I know it's a hot take, but that dude's special. I know it's I know it's the most obvious thing to say. But that was like the one thing I said this morning in the preview. Like, I think Juan Soto is about to become a superstar. Like that's the only thing. If anyone seems like they're made for the big stage, it's that fucker who gets into the batter's box and acts like it's like there's no cameras. Like how he acts in the batter's box is how normal people act in the bathroom mirror when Noah's home and they're like, how silly can I get? He acts like if you were facing your best friend playing baseball and acting silly, yes, like that's something you do. Yeah, like if I was doing with football and I was trying to go like Max cocky against you, that's what I'd look like.   I mean, that's the song of the day is Soto special. I mean, just a just a different kind of special. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot to talk about. Do you how did it? Where did you watch the game? I think maybe we'll get into that. I watched the first two innings at a place called Spot Bar in Denver. It's called Spot Bar in Denver. It's called Spot Bar. Okay, it's called Spot Bar. I was gonna say it's called Spot Bar. It's in Denver. Yeah. I watched it with our good friend Nick. Some people know him as the mailman. I turned 32 weeks ago. Yep. And I still haven't renewed my license. So Spot Bar is kind of a hole in the wall. So I thought they'd be cool about it. Spoiler, they weren't. So I went to have a beer with my buddy. They would not serve me a beer because my license is expired. So then we came back to my apartment and we watched the rest of the game. If you didn't look so young, you could probably pass that test. Yeah, if I didn't look like I was an old 15, like things would be good. I will, dude, I meant to text you this like three times today. Did you wear that sweater vest and backwards hat combo to the bar? I don't want to talk about it. I look like the kid from Big Daddy. Yeah, isn't it? I almost texted you. I almost texted you three times today because, Jimmy, and this is kind of funny and it shows how much we love baseball. My acne during the Yankees playoff run was the worst it's been in so long. Jimmy, I WebMD'd like, what is acne associated with? Because I was like, OK, maybe I'm maybe I'm a little more stressed out because the Yankees are in the playoffs, but it's not this bad. A week later, not even a week, four days, acne is fine. Clear as my face has been. Yeah. Well, I still can't believe that you are dressed like a 10 year old from like 1999 and go to the bar like that. Spin it my own way. We can't serve you. No, I think if you had even if you have a legal ID, we're not serving you. You know who can't get served? Juan Soto. Juan Soto. He's no alcohol for him in America and other countries. He's totally cool. No, I've been watching their celebrations after the DS and the CS and if the Nats come close to winning the series, I'm reporting him for underage drinking. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I mean, that I mean, we'll be like the people that watch golf and they report like infractions from home. That's what baseball needs. It is what they more police, more couch police. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a burn for this game? I do. All right. Let's get into that after a word from a quick sponsor. All right, Jakey. Jakey Burns on your mark. Get set. Burn. Game one of the World Series, the Nationals. Natitude and Mad Max Scherzer versus Jason Garrett Cole as the Astros try to cowboy their way to their second World Series in three years. Bottom one.  Double Altuve and Springer score. Uh, two nothing Astros. She's a man, baby. Yeah. Zimmerman, a solo shot. And then Juan Soto goes Han Solo in theaters soon. Tied at twos. Adam eats in a run. Soto doubles his pleasure. Doubles the runs. Two RBI double. It's five, two Nats. George Jerry Springer announces he is the father with a solo homer and an RBI double in the eighth. But the Stros go Apollo 13 as they crash into game one. Scherzer to Corbin to Rainey to Hudson to Doolittle. Nat Steel, game one, five, four, final. Doolittle. Nice. Jake, I have bad news for you. The chat just brought it to my attention. This is awful. It's fine. Juan Soto turns 21 before game four. October 25th. Yeah. So by the time the World Series is over, he's legal. Oh, but I still have material from him from the CS and the DS. OK, OK, OK. Well, that's actually bad news for game three. Soto's going to be hammered. He's going to be so hungover. Yeah. He's going to show up with like a fifth of Jack just like, hey, you have a flask in his back pocket and like, no, it's cool. I'm 21 now.  But end of the day when Juan Soto's, you know, 68 and lives in a condo outside of Miami and he's retired and they go around the table and they go, hey, how was your 21st birthday? Oh, dude, went out to club live, blackout, threw up in the bathroom. Best night of my life. Soto, dude, game three of the World Series, two for three with a walk.  That was rude. What was your 21st birthday like? What was mine? We went to that shitty bar, right? I forget. Yeah. What was the rugby bar? Oh, where they had penny beers? Yeah. Molly's or Maggie's or some Irish name. Damn, I forget the name. Rose, something Rose, something Rose.  So we went there just to like blackout and watch someone throw up on themselves. Good times. Yeah. Good times. I have this game, Jake. Yeah.  That's why we're recording tonight. But like the little things that add up and there's a lot of them. I don't know how you want to go through the game, but Josh Redick gets catchers interference, but they don't call it. It's Clara's day. It's absolutely ridiculous that that's not a review. Why would that be on the list not a reviewable that I that I want to go back in time and put me in the office and the meeting when they decided what's a reviewable play and what's not because how did they not vote catchers interference? Like there's so many cameras locked in to that specific area of gameplay. It's not like you're not going to have angles. You're going to have the most amount of angles.  I don't understand how they said that wasn't reviewable, but that goes from it goes from one out with two on flip it to the top of the order.  Like he couldn't he. It wasn't like it was a base hit.  He still had a chance to get a hit. Right. He didn't. So that's a little side thing, but it goes from to two out with one on instead of two on with one out, which is a much different inning. And you can't say that for sure this would happen or for sure that would happen. But that's that's kind of a little moment that's playing big when you think about this. Yeah. And it's I feel like we're going to bounce in and out of different things here because it's there's so many moving parts NL and AL and that's that's kind of where I want to start is that, you know, and I'll send a quick apology to all Nats fans a my bad for ignoring how special one Soto is be Adam Ian who I've been on all playoffs. I kind of wrote him off this series. He had a huge huge game and a big at bat. And I think something else that's hard to quantify is that yes, a lot of the National League teams aren't going to have the big DH that bats fourth or fifth and he's a big part of their lineup, but something that's kind of a double effect is a they get a hitter for the pitcher, which is big, but be someone like Victor Robles who he's normally the eighth hitter in all he sees is shit when he's at the plate when he gets a real chance at it. He's like an ideal ninth batter like that dude can set the table and send it back. And I think that's kind of what we saw from this National's lineup today was their their depth surprised me. And I think it was a little bit of a you get the DH you get to put Kendrick at DH ass crabs in the field Zimmerman at first with Robles sliding down to the nine hole and it made that lineup just look differently than I've normally seen it in my head because there's no pitcher. Yeah. Hey, how about that?  Right is being nine hole and now you're seeing a lot of pitches because they don't want to turn over the lineup. What a different like mindset that is for that guy, right?  How about Ryan Zimmerman? Your team goes down to nothing in Houston. Here comes old man Zim with the solo bombshot. That was a big part in changing this this whole game. Oh instantly and I mean he's dipped into the fountain of youth and it stayed but I will say this the nationals kind of in this game. They defied everything that was supposed to happen. So when the Astros scoring the first inning they're almost unbeatable. If the Astros jumped to a 2-0 lead I believe they were 27 and 0 or 27 and 2. Some like some like that that I think the second number is an oh I think they were undefeated if they had a 2-0 lead and so they did have a 2-0 lead and they lost.  So yeah shots fired right at your face. And I like totally get that you know I don't know. And I think so there are two two things I didn't factor in fully before the game. I mentioned the fact that they haven't won a World Series and when I was saying that I mean there's a chance at a magic factor with this team and it is still game one. I think the Astros are still the favorites. But I will say this man the nationals are playing really good baseball.  They beat the Brewers. They beat the Dodgers 3 out of 5 in a great series and then they sweep the Cardinals. I mean the nationals are on kind of a crazy run right now 9 plus 4 is 13 plus 3 is 16. They're 16 and 2 now they're 17 and 2 in their last 19. I mean we are not a math pod we're more of a mod pod and a cron pod but I think I just crush that math. I think it's 17 and 2. That's what I said. Nice. Yeah cron pod then. Yeah nailed it.  Soto's a special dude. And yeah the other thing and I mean Houston's licking their chops. I mean yes they got to Cole which is unbelievable. I mean literally hasn't been done since May. But when you get Scherzer out after 5 innings I know they they had Corbin for this game. But I don't know that Astros were still licking their chops. They had a couple opportunities. I mean that line drive by Brantley is a couple more feet towards the line. We're probably telling a different story. But that's you mentioned the little things in in a game can mean so much. I mean that Brantley thing might not even technically be a little thing. But if it goes three feet to the left are we telling a different story. I don't know. Yeah I mean the other little thing is Springer not getting to third on what should have been a triple. And I mean the next at bat Altuve does line out to Adam Eaton and you can't play this game but we're going to play it. But you know what you know what it is you play this game and then you always say you can't but you do it.  Yeah and you know what I think you'll be a little surprised that I'm kind of dipping out on that because I think every side of the base running is kind of right except George Springer. Wait why but why would he tag at second because it went off that guy's glove if Eaton catches that ball which it went off his glove. We're saying that's really good base running by Tucker to tag up there. Not a lot of players would have done that. I get it and he still scores but there's still score on on there's going to be two outs if it's caught right. No yes. Let me see. Hold on no no no no fly out. Yes it's going to be the second out if it's caught. Yeah so getting to third means nothing. I mean getting to third means we're talking about George Springer not getting a third right now if Kyle Tucker that's it that's because it landed so there's a passball passball is a good play but you're not taught to tag up on that play you're taught to be three fourths of the way because if that if Adam Eaton makes that catch who cares about you can just stay on second you're in scoring position for the next guy if he gets a single. If he doesn't then you're taught to be three fourths of the way because it's going to be the second out and then you score and you clear room for Springer to get third. Yeah I don't know I think I'm again I'm in a different area there I think you're probably supposed to go halfway and if Eaton catches that ball it would have been a really special catch which it was close to that you'd still have a chance of tagging up. I mean either way it's moot and this is why I said I don't care about it because I think both sides of the argument are right either way he scored and B if it was caught he would have been in his best position to advance so I think it's a moot argument. Well Springer could have got the third if he didn't go back he slowed like Springer slowed himself down. Well Springer also did a Sosa hop and didn't spring out of the box. I know but he also slowed. It's more of a Springer situation than a tug or something. Well if you watch the wide angle he also slowed him down a little bit where he waited for him because they were I mean think about it when you like pictured he was still at second when it hit Springer was in between second first and second. Yeah I mean Tucker, Tucker scored and then Tucker tagging on the Robles catch was even weirder he would have been dead to rights at second if Robles just threw it to second. Right but again that's almost I mean Robles is 22 and he you talk about happy feet when an outfielder catches a ball holy smokes Robles turn that into a circus really quick and then he makes the throw to the wrong base Tucker ends up looking great. Well no but did you see the replay like Tucker didn't mean to tag up. Right but it worked out. But to two weird played with a little house money tonight but it worked. I know but it's too like bad base running plays that worked out that tag up from first to second and him not running full speed and then kind of looking around like wait what just happened is bizarre.  I mean I'm just still bizarre baseball if it comes back at a later game in the series and he makes a good fall you'd be like oh yeah look how lucky he was there for now he looks like a genius on the Robles throw and the other play ended up working out. It doesn't look like a genius if you watch the replay and he like doesn't really know what happened. He gets second base man. It worked out. I did still like it worked out. That's why that's why I said I didn't want to do this because at the end of the day there is there's no argument against Tucker right now. Both of his plays worked. Yeah but you can still talk about it like if he sprints and tags up and sprints right away and then it works out he looks like a genius but the replay when he was looking around like wait what it's like he thought Robles dropped the ball or something. Yeah it was weird it's weird did he pinch run or was he he pinched he got a single pinch it you know how about Alvarez getting on base three times. And that's the other funny part about this gym and you and I were we were more locked into the Yankee series obviously and not to be rude to the other people I mean we we watched the NLCS but it clearly became a sweep and there's a couple ugly innings there but that's what I said that was funny I mean Yuli Gurriel he hits the two RBI double in the first inning and now in his last two playoff games he has the three run homer a two run RBI double when he was dead in the water the whole Yankee series Jordan Alvarez he ends up doing the same thing where it's like OK is this guy a threat again and the guy that was one of the more special rookies we've ever seen and yeah that's how quickly a series can turn he got he walked and then he got a hit then he got a hit then Alvarez had one of the bigger at bats at the game bases loaded with two outs versus Hudson and Hudson gets him on three pitches elevates the fast ball to that was pretty I thought that was going to be a cool at bat that I could do a breakdown for something like that but Alvarez went down pretty easily yeah Hudson roasted him after not looking his best out there and yeah I think in Jim this is funny and I know the people that have been listening hardcore to talking baseball you and I with Tanner Rainey we saw that first appearance from him this playoffs and we're like oh this guy's not playoff ready and then we kind of lost our sights on him a little bit and it's like okay he's had a couple good appearances this guy has good stuff maybe he's locked in and now Tanner Rainey is a huge question mark again he comes in point one he gives up a hit and he gives up two walks in the home run I mean Tanner Rainey went from and you heard it on the broadcast they were like oh this guy's been an X factor out of their bullpen now he it one game ago Jordan Alvarez couldn't be trusted and Tanner Rainey was an X factor now it's vice versa yeah but Rainey he looked like he was pitching to the Astros in the same manner that the twins pitch to the Yankees where he was just scared to throw Braggman anything in the zone and he was just hoping they'd chase his off speed that was like just dipping underneath the strike zone and they just didn't care I don't know dude we're not going to swing at that and he just kept dibbling but did you see how red his face was I said they should go put some ice cubes in his hat he looked like yeah he was making me hot he was pitching like a guy that gave up a lead up home into George Springer that's that's how he pitched the rest of the time Springer thinking he got a second one yeah it's not a great look one Soto with the oppo shot off of Cole oppo shot the track shot yeah it's I mean technically that kid and he's a kid like hasn't developed his full muscles yet no no it's fucking bizarre and Jim there's so many little baseball things I know I'm getting into gym mode a little bit but that's when I'm at my most passionate he got mowed down his first step back your first World Series at bat you're a kid I think Cole went three fastballs to mow him down to end that inning that looked like it had a rally going yeah it was three straight fastballs after you know I mean Turner reach and then he stole and then the bump bump pop out which we can talk about that in a second but three fastballs from Garrett Cole one two three you're out he comes up the next step bat and he goes oppo job an absolute moonshot a lot of guys don't have pole power that deep second pitch he gets another fastball and yeah it's where baseball gets romantic and it's where you get curious to because you hear guys talk stories about Manny Ramirez and some of the special hitters and there are stories out there that Manny Ramirez used to have like bad swings at pitches to set up pitchers for later makey cab and like I'm not necessarily given Soto credit for that yet but when you caught one of the best four seam fastballs opposite field for 420 he's a special dude and then that's that home run sets up the next step bat in the fifth inning when he comes up with two on because Cole didn't want to give him a fastball he went slider curve curve slider change up slider he didn't give him a fastball in the hole at bat it goes to 3 2 and he hasn't seen a fastball and so don't knows that and so don't knows why crush this fastball last that bat so he's probably not throwing one and he sat on that that that slider and just drove it up oh again and gets two more RBI's so that I mean he went all fastballs and he struck out then he sits the fastball and he fucking moon shots one then he comes back and Cole's giving them all off speed and he adapts it was pretty impressive I like how much he changes his approach with two strikes and it's just fun it's it's funny slash awesome to watch him and Rendon back to back you get the young emotional 20 year old who I mean just around every turn this postseason he'll prove you wrong and then Rendon comes up and there's guys that pretend to be cool Rendon is like the king of cool does that dude have a pulse is incredibly calm so his springer though dude did you see that picture I tweeted a springer I'm not sure can you pull it up he looks like a video game character he looks like he doesn't have a pulse and he's 2D and it's fucking weird I don't even have it loaded yet but I kind of know what you're talking about yeah I tweeted it out it's I like was just scrubbing through the footage trying to find like something interesting I guess and then I was like whoa when I called employee bill over and I was like he looks like a video game doesn't I'm looking at it now he's a yeah man him I mean you can you kind of nailed it with springer there is like a video game vibe that it's like what's what's even going on here Rendon like there's athletes that in pressure situations they tell themselves like hey just got to breathe be calm be myself and you see them looking like that I mean Rendon he looks like he followed off a 2-0 Wiffleball pitch for every pitch yeah 2-0 Wiffleball pitch for every pitch throwing Wiffleballs 2-0 huh well in a Wiffleball game yeah you throw it every pitch every pitch you throw Wiffleball yeah yeah you want to talk about the starters with all four move on like Scherzer Scherzer Scherzer looked like he was empty in the tank on every pitch to me which I think is kind of how he always looks anyway yeah it's kind of just how he goes about life we didn't get any filming from the mouth crazy Scherzer the pitch count got up there quick they bring in Corbin I don't know what you were your what was your impression of Scherzer today I mean Scherzer yes he empties the tank on every pitch I think it's again one of those weird things like you and I watch Scherzer highlights that we'll see him here and there if this is normal Scherzer then yeah I guess he bounces back in five days and we'll see him again I think one of the interesting themes that I'm I want to look over at the end of this postseason is how many times are these pitchers being okay with giving a walk instead of you know giving a hitter a chance to hit because Scherzer ends up with three walks today and you know that adds to his pitch count a little bit but he never gave up the big blow and his team scored five runs off Garrett Cole the dude who hasn't lost since May I believe so hey he did his job he emptied the tank if you told the Nationals coming into this game Scherzer was only going to give you a five I think national fans get real worried but he did what he did to limit their scoring yeah and then when Rainey could only go 0.1 and he put two on and he has to go to Hudson in the seventh inning he did not look thrilled about that in the dugout also Hudson in a jam in the seventh inning and you know Rainey gets credited with the run Hudson gets credited with the run he does get out of the bases loaded jam but that's a taxing day one for their bullpen that's a taxing day one for the Nats bullpen which isn't a strength anyway I do little looked good he goes 1.1 so they did were able to split it between Hudson and do little but you need you need Strasburg to kind of give everyone a break like you don't you don't want to use Hudson and do little every game but you might have to but like you really don't want to give Rainey innings and that's like bringing Corbin out kind of they want to use the three starters Hudson and do a four starters Hudson and do little that's what they want to do yeah and I think it's a little bit of something that could be really deflating to Washington in the series if they use Hudson and do little and they don't get a win like yes if they have to use them tomorrow and they walk away with a win I mean he's that Washington is celebrating to the moon because they would have gone to and oh in Houston and I mean if they use their guys who cares but yeah if they were to go and it's a similar story tomorrow but Hudson or do little can't hold that would be a tough break for the Nats and I I want to give kudos to the Nats man because Hudson playoff baseball speaks to you differently and you watch a guy get the final outs to a game and you're like all right well that's that's the guy I'm going to war with Hudson earn that in kind of the Dodgers series and for them to go Hudson first because they get him in that lane and then to close it out with do little kudos to them yeah and then on the astro side Cole went seven five earned runs which is crazy six strikeouts only six I don't really know what was going on with Cole like a couple curveballs he just couldn't really get going but I I couldn't pick up like exactly like what was happening I mean Soto rocked a fastball I don't know did you some scrappy at bats I just think and I I touched on this a little bit this morning but I was in way too negative of Natsville again I owe them apology and Jim I'm going to resort back to it because you've heard me say at multiple times I think Adam Eaton is a huge piece to how this team operates I I really I think trade Turner's a solid ball player Rendon is going to be a top three MVP guy Soto is special you've heard me say that five times this podcast when Adam Eaton gives you two for four from that two whole and Rendon and Soto are just full blown threats to you I think that changes the whole dynamic of this nationals team because again when you go through the box score I mean Zimmerman has the solo shot but the rest of that lineup doesn't do too too much I mean you get a couple you get a hit from Ascrabs a hit from Robles and you know I did my Robles is more of a table setter for the top again but I don't know I mean if Adam Eaton has a good game just think about how that changes how you have to navigate this lineup with guys on base for Rendon and Soto every time I mean that's that's a mess.  If you made that catch that would have been amazing. Yeah moving pretty wild. All right let's move forward to the game to a little preview session. All right game to tomorrow Strasburg versus Verlander Jake Astros are still a favorite in the series correct. I believe so I'd have to double check with Vegas but I believe in your brain. Yeah I just think you know Astros still they don't technically have home field but if it goes six or seven it's in Houston and I mean I'll give Washington credit for getting five off Garrett Cole but I don't think like oh they got him once they're going to get him again that's not exactly how this works. I think I think it's going to be this needed to happen for it to be a good series. I said yesterday that I think Strasburg and Verlander is a toss up. I thought I thought Cole had the upper hand on Scherzer. He didn't. I mean would I would I be shocked if we're talking after after tomorrow's game and it's like wow Strasburg was incredible Washington got enough off Verlander like no and that's what makes baseball awesome. Yeah I'm kind of a toss up. I think the Nats still are the favorite because you can't react too much to just one game. I mean Yankees one Yankees took game one. So you can't do that much and like Houston's really good. They'll find a way they almost came back in this one like they had bases loaded. They had a couple really close breaks that would have that would have tied this or went you know their way but the Nats were able to hang on but Strasburg Verlander man Verlander needs a good outing Verlander at you know what actually I think more pressures on Strasburg and that's a little different than I than I think I think more pressures on Strasburg because of the bullpen situation and because because shares only went five like Strasburg has to go seven man.  What's that if if it wouldn't be all that bad if the nationals got blown up nationals are better off getting beat by five than getting beat by two. Yeah because like you said if they use do little and Hudson in a losing effort that fucks them.  I think George Springer come to life is a big story. I'll to they still look solid same with Brantley Bregman man. Bregman's in an interesting spot like you already know this Jim but in the Yankee series he got walked a ton. He had a 423 O.B.P. but he had a 645 O.P.S. He only had three hits and six games in the Yankee series and yes he got pitched around a lot tonight. He goes 0 for 4. He has a walk but three strikeouts too.  He he's got to find his way and pretty quickly. Yeah it might actually help him that you is getting hot behind him. He'll might see some pitches now. Mike you know the Yankee straight up just pitched around him and he was credit to him for being very patient. He's got a 435 on base percentage in this postseason so far. So I mean that's that's good and it's hard to hit when they're not giving you pitches in the zone. So I kind of I kind of get it but if you really starts hitting and you really has been jumping these fastballs man.  He's getting inside the ball but like players don't get inside the balls that he's getting it's crazy. And then to put him over the fence or to the fence it's nuts. So you really getting hot may actually help Bregman and then that helps the Astros incredibly.  I don't know Astros might be in a good spot offensively. Yeah you got to see a hit from Bregman like even if they're pitching around you the team and the fans need a little bit of wood on the ball. Yeah man I mean it's just tomorrow's exciting. You can Strasburg Verlander it's kind of a it almost flips the script a little bit. Garrett Cole the guy who had the special season against Max Scherzer the three time Cy Young Award Award winner now it's flipped its old man Verlander versus Strasburg who was the young prodigy and now is kind of rebuilding that with his playoff statistics so far. It's kind of a fun flip. The game is at eight tomorrow right. I made a lot of plans. Hoping scheduling around an eight o'clock start. I hope eight oh seven. Hey because I'm going to New York City spending the day looking at apartments and I was like I just knew you back by eight but I never checked to make sure it was eight o'clock. I were checked. So that's good. Excited. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I think that about covers it right. We're good. I'm gonna go to sleep. It's 1 a.m. I got to leave for New York City tomorrow morning. Got anything else. Are you hot. I don't. I don't think so. No I'm not too hot. I'm a little warm. I'm warm. Again kudos to the Nats for for taking this game. Yanks did the same thing. I'm not going to draw a full comparison there but a game one in Houston's no joke especially after the layoff and you could have talks about that good for Houston for owning it and again if you run into any baseball fans so do special. This is so much different than what the Yankees did. The Yankees beat Grankey and the pen. They beat Cole and came back from being down to nothing. I mean this is a much bigger. They beat Cole. And yeah they beat Cole. Cole didn't beat himself. So this is a much much more emphasis goes into this than what the Yankees did in game one. Yeah yeah we'll see if it carries I mean Verlander deals tomorrow and it's a wash but it's still good. You want to win one on the road. They they lost home field advantage already again. We'll see what they bring in in Washington D.C. D.C. D.C. All right. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Thank you for listening. Thank you for commenting and subscribing and rating and reviewing and being part of it. 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