And the Bucks, as a reminder, are three and seven since Doc Rivers got there. And after the All-Star break and all the interviews that were conducted, it just feels like things might be worse. So first up, you have Doc telling your own whitesman of Yahoo, taking a job when you're about to go on the toughest road trip of the season is not the smartest decision. I even told them that. Can we wait till All-Star break? It would have been a lot nicer. I like to think that this was said in jest, but it's a quote, so we can only take it for what it is. Thoughts? I feel like that's just something you don't say out loud. That's something you realize and you understand, but you don't say that out loud.  You've had coaching situations before. You've had multiple opportunities. This is now your job. So take it how you want. Don't put this on the players. Don't put this on the ownership, saying I don't know why you're firing Adrian Griffin, things like that. It feels like he's deflecting. And I saw the whole beef with Austin and JJ, and I see both sides there. But Doc Rivers, again, you've had a lot of lives in the NBA. You keep getting these opportunities, and you have a very, very talented team. So I do understand the point where like, this is now you're in control, and you have the talent, the deed is done. They fired him. This is now your situation. You can't say things like, I wish you would have waited till after All-Star weekend like this, that they didn't. And so now you're almost making the ownership look bad by saying things like this. But I think there is still lead at the end of the tunnel. I think this is getting to the point where it's almost like Steve Kerr, like they're saying too much. Just go out there, compete. I hope you made adjustments during this break with his staff, got more comfortable. The Bucks, Dame had a great All-Star weekend. Hopefully that's some sort of momentum going to the second half of the season. There's a lot more, by the way. This is the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, it's like Doc. This is one. This isn't a smart thing to say. As somebody that's worked with Doc Rivers for five years, even though it's just a quote, I guarantee it was said in just semi-joking. And I agree with Chandler as well. Some of these things are also better left unsaid. And I think his two worlds clashed. I think he still has a little bit of his TV job in his system. And he probably was oversharing, trying to say something a little clever, a little lighthearted. And listen, if there's seven and three, and he says this, we brush past it. But because there are three and seven, you take it a little bit more seriously. And so, you know, I think Doc was saying this just in jest. I don't think he was making an excuse for himself. I'm actually a big Doc Rivers fan. You'll never get me to say anything negative about him. Very much like JJ Redick, very much like Pat Bev, and people who spoke out about these issues. Doc changed the trajectory of my career. I've had my best years under his guidance. And so I know who he is as a coach. I know the type of things that he says. And so I understand this. It doesn't look good when you're three and seven. But again, if you say that in your seven and three, he'll still say the same quote. Okay, so let's throw that one out. Let's go to the next one, because there's more. Here we go. This is also Doc's time with Sirius XM's NBA radio. Personally, I, you know, to be honest, I told our owners when they called, I said, I think you, I don't understand why you're doing this. You know? And they said, you know, one of the things they said was, well, it doesn't matter, we've done it now. And we want you. And so that was a tough one. I didn't, that was, that's where you had the hesitation. Okay, that's no room for interpretation. That's straight from the horse's mouth. See this, I think this is a private conversation that you have with the ownership. That should never get brought to light. Like no matter, that clearly was said.  Be like, you know, this is, it goes without being said. Like if we, everyone thinks it, doesn't mean you have to say it, right? And this is just an opportunity where like, he can just take all the bullets, take your three and seven, take it, just like the Tyron Lou was, just like James Harden was when that trade happened to LA and they turned around, now no one talked about it. I would just stop talking about it. I would stop giving sound bites in general because these are all things that people know already. People assume this is, it's an awkward situation. You coach in the All-Star game was weird. It should have never happened. It's a kind of a silly thing he's in right now.  He didn't have to, he didn't have to take it and he didn't have to take the job. And so I think he understands that there is potential here. They do have to absolute stud all NBA players. They do have a chance to win right now. So I'd be focusing on those things instead of deflecting and not making excuses necessarily, but kind of making excuses. But he's also, but again, he's also one of those polarizing coaches where no matter what he say, it's gonna be dissected. He's one of those personalities. He's part of the show. He's part of the NBA show. He's one of those coaches that people love to hate, that people love to hear what he has to say at the same time. That's why he can, if he get fired tomorrow, he'll be back on TV by Friday. He's one of those type of personalities. And so no matter what he says, there's gonna be something to go with that. And like I said, if there's seven and three, opposed to three and seven, all three of us don't really care. Which they very well could be the next 10 games. They could go seven, three, eight and two. And then now he can say whatever the hell he wants to say. It doesn't matter, cause they're winning games and that's the ultimate goal. So this is the last of the doc part for me. There's more. Yeah, cause JJ Redick made a few ways when he said this. The trend is always making excuses. We get it. Taking over a team in the middle of the season is hard, but it's always an excuse. There's never accountability with that guy. That one felt rough. I disagree. I disagree. That wasn't my experience with doc.  I really messed that up. I'll fix that and I'll be better. And there was times where he was like, y'all need to do better. You know what? And that's the balance of being a good coach. And that's also the balance of being a coach that has championship aspirations and expectations. Everybody expects doc to do well, no matter what the team has. And you know, he's been blessed to have a lot of talent and when you have a lot of talent, you're going to put a target on your back. You know, we said this when he first got the job. Now that Milwaukee was a team that can kind of go under the radar and do that thing. When you hire a doc, Rivers, that puts you in the forefront of criticism and people talking. And so I disagree with JJ saying this. It hasn't been my experience for doc to make a bunch of excuses. He may be talking too much, maybe doing too many interviews, but again, he's fresh off of TV, might have some of that still in his system, but I just disagree with JJ on this. I'll tell you this, every player has a different situation in relationship with the coach, right? So this does, and I'll make it quick, but sorry Conrad, this, Conrad's like, shut up, stop, we gotta go. Like JB Biggerstaff to me, he's the greatest guy in the world. I've never had him as a head coach. Clearly there's some issues in Cleveland right now with Donovan Mitchell and other relationships with him and Cleveland. So it depends on that dynamic. I've never played for Doc Rivers, but clearly with the way JJ read it saying that there's some animosity, there's some tension there between those two. Shams, the mood with the box.  Michelle, it literally does not matter what anyone says. This team has a championship goal. From ownership all now, this is a title or bust season. You have Damian Lillard, Giannis and Tetecumpo and Doc Rivers. They made that coaching change at the midway point of the season because they truly believe this is a championship quality team. And that's why they went out and got Doc Rivers to win a championship. So it literally doesn't matter what anyone says internally. Like that's what they want. That's what they're desiring. That's what they're going for. And hopefully they, for their sake, they have a healthy second half of the season. They just added Patrick Beverly at the deadline. They got Danilo Gallinari in the buyout market. I know Lou is familiar with both of those guys. And Giannis and Tetecumpo, his voice matters the most. He told Eric name of the athletic that we need to stop feeling bad for ourselves.  I think second half of the season, the relationship between Giannis and Tetecumpo and Danilo. That's going to be the most important for them. We saw Danilo have a massive, like Chandler said, big time, all-star weekend. But having the ball in his hands down the stretch of games, that's going to be important. But this team, it's just about winning a championship. And if they fall short of that, there's no excuse. They're going to fall short of that. By the way, Giannis, Giannis is also talking a lot more these days because he had a bit of a head scratcher of an answer. So hear his answer to something. I just, in general, I do not watch basketball. So stats, highlights, how people play, I have no idea. And I love it, do you know? I love it when I go to the game. I have no idea who I'm playing and what they do. All right, so. But you know what's crazy? I read the quote. I didn't see the interview. At first I was like, is this guy serious? But now you think it's funny? When he's lying, clearly he's joking after seeing the interview. He's trolling. It's just not a good joker. But yeah, it's also not very funny because you have lost in the post-season. You haven't won a championship. So it is weird to make jokes that kind of have some truth to it. Lou's like, wait a minute. This quote alone, take away all the accolades, everything that we know about Giannis. Just this thing alone. And we want to blame Doc Rivers for everything. That's fair. You can't say, at the same time of Doc Rivers, you can't go out as the leader of the troops and say, oh, I like to come into games unprepared. I don't know. Which is a lot of... Joking or not, it's not funny because you have lost in the post-season. You haven't won anything. Which is a story, by the way, because if you guys don't know how preparing for a game work, you have scout teams, you have done in teams, you go through the teams plays the day before. If you have a couple of days of practice, you're going through everything they're doing. So does he watch basketball? Probably not. A lot of us, we consider it a job. When we're sitting at home, we're catching up and binge-watching something else. But when it comes to game preparation, there's certainly scenarios where you have shoot-around, film, all of these things that you can't avoid to get prepared for a game. So was he trying to say something clever? Sure, but it didn't come off for us. And that goes into winning a championships, which obviously they did. They did, they won a championship. You don't just roll the ball out there and play. It's a free advantage watching film and playing. And again, after watching the video, he's clearly making a joke. That's just not very funny. Yeah, it's the delivery. It has a lot that needs to be worked on. And now the final piece. Got a lot of drama and the walkie that we have. So he was, I mean, all-star gave us that. About a passive-aggressive-ish. Well, this one feels, I don't know. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's just honestly a mistake. But he named his starting five of current players in the league that Dame would want to play with. Whatever, it's him, Steph, LeBron, Katie, and Bam Adebayo. Me and Lou disagree on this. He thinks there's no issues. It feels weird. I think it's weird. It's like Jamal Murray going out there and saying Joellen beats the best center in the NBA. And Yolk, I don't care if that's what he actually thinks. It's against. Like, Doctor, it's just something you don't say. It's weird to say a lot. It's weird to say, especially when you're putting Kevin Durant and LeBron James to guys his same exact positions, like people he's got to go through this year. It's a little weird. It's his list. Yeah, but it's his list. It's no Luca. There's no Yolk. They're not his teammates that he just got traded to. He got traded. He didn't go there. Yeah, but he okay. He had a love affair with the Miami Heat, by the way. They were following each other on Twitter this and that. That's true. He thought he was going there. You got traded to the Milwaukee Bucks. I don't have to put anybody on my list. That's not on my list. It's my list. Lou, you would be on my list. And I think that's hurtful that I wouldn't be on yours. I appreciate it. No, not you. But yeah, I think this is a non-story. I think LeBron is fine. Like if someone says, if I play for Carlisle and I say Popovich is the best coach, I don't think he cares. So if I'm, but like throwing Kevin Durant in there, we're like, Yonah's kind of feeling that. So do we want guys to be honest sometimes or not? No, I think you need to lie to me when you need to provide, you need to support your teammate. I think that's more important than telling your truth. Especially this week. It feels weird.  And then the guy that just got traded to, arguably their best player leaves, they're arguably the other best player out of his starting five. It's weird. It's uncomfortable. It makes for an awkward situation in the locker room when you don't have to do that. Yonah's probably hadn't even heard this. Well, he has now. He's never heard it. This is nothing to me. Everybody hears everything.  They know everything.  Shoms, I would never leave you off a list of favorite people. Why is everyone getting on the list except me? You figure that out. I'd never leave you three off of any list. Thank you, Shoms. Team player.


So I think without further ado, I'm going to welcome the Honorable Katrina Conroy up to start our evening off again. Thank you. Thank you, Brooke. I've got a really long speech here. I don't know if I can say it all. I want to thank Natalie for getting us started in the right way tonight and I too want to recognize the indigenous nations on whose traditional territory we are gathered. And to tell you how important it is for me to be here tonight and how glad I am that it's on tonight because the house isn't sitting because yesterday was a stat holiday. So I could be here tonight because as minister responsible for as we like to say in Victoria, all things Columbia, this is really near and dear to my heart and I'm really glad that I could be here for one of these, these nights when we, the people of the, of the basin are able to share how they feel about it. And I also, I do want to recognize Sylvan and you'll see him shortly on the screen as our negotiator from global affairs Canada, and all the work that he's been doing but I also want to recognize a couple of guests that are here from our US consulate Adam Huntman and Jeff Reed are here they're in the back of the room that's my way. They're from the US consulate in Vancouver and it's really nice that they made it up here for this. I just think the very fact that that we're all here talking about the treaty shows how different things are than they were when the treaty was originally signed in the 60s. Because in that time there was no discussion with anybody it was just signed so it's really important that we have these opportunities to meet this is our second round of discussions with people from the basin. So it's for me it feels it's it's so important that we're all here. And I do, like Kathy is going to talk later but I just want to acknowledge the incredible work she's done as our BC negotiator she's the head of the BC team they have. They are very much part of the whole process with Sylvan and, and it's an incredible team and and also to welcome Nathan one of the other negotiators from the indigenous communities that have been added to the table and it's. I think that we can't really move forward, unless we acknowledge the mistakes that happened over 50 years ago. So for us it's an opportunity to make sure we're listening because we know as I said in the 60s that you know the government wasn't listening. And it's really important all of us to know that not only is the. Are we hearing what you say, but that the people that are at the table negotiating are here, and they take your concerns to the table. You know we did lose quite a bit and in when the original treaty was signed up here. We lost a lot of economic opportunities we lost and as reservoirs were flooded. I still like to point out to our friends from the Okanagan that we had some of the most fertile land in the province that was flooded. And now that I know the Okanagan takes that that kudos but I mean we did have incredibly prosperous land that was gone. When you think of it there was nearly 200 square miles of land that was flooded that was lost and the social disruption in our region like over 2000 people lost their homes lost some people lost their communities and it's you know when you think back on that and it was just taken for granted and the government of the day said this is what's going to happen and and you have no say in it. Indigenous communities lost so much as well and and sites were destroyed. So today we you know we need to look at what's happening today with the you know the rising and falling of reservoir levels as a result of the treaties, and we need to ensure that we're talking about the, you know the ecosystems they you know agriculture and the forestry, the recreation and the culture that continues to be impacted. You know as a basin resident I've lived most of my life here and and I'm grateful to see that changes for the better are coming around in my lifetime and as minister I'm incredibly proud of the fact that government is doing things differently. Today we listen we engage and and these community meetings are one example of how we're doing that. And it's a process that's continued from the former government started this I'm happy to say that that we're proud to continue to build on the work that was done by the former government. In 2012 and 2013 those discussions were started around the basin of what was going to happen with with the treaty. And last year when the negotiations started. So we again said that we needed to have these discussions and had a series of 12 negotiations around the basin or discussions discussions not negotiations. Kathy would get upset with me if I said people could come to the negotiations their secret, but so we hosted meetings all across the base and last fall, and they were well attended with lots of input. And this year we are again or they're doing the same thing we've already held seven and now there's five more to be held. I think that it's really important that people have an opportunity to to talk about the negotiations, although what actually happens at the table is confidential I think anybody that's been involved in negotiations recognizes that. And but it's important to hear what the issues are so that those issues can be brought to the table. But we also if you can't, I'm telling this to the people that apparently out there and in social media land or somewhere out there watching apparently. We also have quarterly e-newsletters that people can access to keep people informed about the negotiations but also about other things related to the treaty. And we have online you can phone in you can contact people so I'm sure Brooks going to tell everybody how to do that yet she's not in her head good after it's over. You know there's even a Twitter account so if we're going to tweet out what's happening with the treaty. We've also got lots of input from local government and Linda Warley and this is her her region where's Linda where you're sitting Linda way at the back there she is. So Linda's going to speak after about the local government committee and I know there's some representatives here tonight about the local government committee and they've been a real strong voice for constituents throughout the entire base and representing local government. We also have another committee called the Columbia Basin Regional Advisory Committee but we just call it Seabrack because ministries love acronyms all the time. So that also it's made up of experts as well as lay people from across the region and they get together and and I know that Linda's going to talk a little bit about Seabrack as well and there's some members here tonight. Because it's really important for us for as a ministry that we are hearing those those voices that we're hearing what's what's happening and and it's something that should have been done half a century ago. In this process one of the things that we hear from time we continually have heard from the time that I became minister responsible and when I was the critic responsible for since 2005 when I was first elected I've always been the critic responsible. We've always heard loud and clear that in any modernized version of the treaty that we have to address ecosystems and we agree with that. And I think that that's what's really important is what you'll hear tonight as Natalie has said Natalie and Nathan Matthew will talk about ecosystems from the indigenous perspective and it is so important to hear that for everyone. Also, I think that it's important to acknowledge the role of the indigenous nations that are at the table because they as well as everyone else had absolutely no say what happened many many years ago and and I want to thank the the federal government for agreeing that that the nations the three nations from our base and should be involved in the negotiations. It was an incredibly important step and and I think it demonstrates Canada's and BC's commitment to the United Nations declaration on the rights of indigenous people and something that the collaboration you know it started in 2018 actually where representatives of the three first nations were at the table, talking with the negotiators about what from their perspective what the issues were and, and I think now that they are actually at the table even strengthens those positions and it strengthens our position as a government where we just introduced legislation to implement the United Nations declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples here in BC. And I think it's really important to acknowledge the collaborative spirit and inclusiveness that's needed today and throughout the basin. One of the other things last year that we heard that we still need to acknowledge and recognize what was lost with the with our treaty dams. And I think in that spirit we're making great headway that people from the basin continue to remind us and at the same time know we need to move forward. The provinces Columbia River treaty team is working on a heritage project to acknowledge losses as well as projects that address concerns around agriculture. The Creston Valley Dyches the fish passages at Duncan Dam and recreation around the Kimbasket reservoir, and I believe you'll hear more about these projects later on tonight. So, in a few days I'm actually I'm going to be speaking in Seattle at the Pacific Northwest Economic Region 2019 Economic Leadership Forum. And it's really valuable for me to be able to go and share BC's perspective on the treaty with American state legislatures. And in the case of this upcoming Penware Forum I'm especially glad to hear that they're having me speak about what the BC government has been has been doing to engage with people throughout the basin. And I think I take that as a compliment not only to the government but to the federal government and to the team we have working on this, but also to all the basin residents who have insisted that your voices be heard because I think that's critically important. And in the past governments will ignore voices if they don't clamor and voices in the basin have said we want to be heard and so they need to be heard and and we need that input and that insight, or the process just wouldn't work. So, I want to end by thanking everybody for coming tonight I know it's you know, sometimes tough to get out but I think it's really important that you're here that your voices are heard and I know there's lots of ways that you can write down your issues to and Brooks probably going to tell you all about that too. And the fact that it's live streaming and it's on YouTube and people from across the basin can can make sure if they can't make it to the meetings that they can be heard. And I just think that it's it's really important that you're all here and I appreciate that the fact that you that this is important enough for everybody that you want to make sure that your voices are heard. The only thing I want to start doing more of is is bringing these discussions to classrooms and to high schools and even elementary schools because every time I go and talk I was at a grade five class recently and ended up. I went to talk to one grade five class and the teacher said well the few more classes want to meet with you ended up talking to six classes. And everyone that I talked to about the treaty, the kids immediately lit up and went oh my goodness yeah and I said this is about your future. And to me that's what the Columbia River Treaty is about it's a generational treaty. It's not about what's going to be good for those of us in the room when I look around the room. It is but this treaty is going to be good for our kids and grandkids and their kids because when the treaty was signed in the 60s, I was four. And here I am at 62 and it's affecting us it's affected me all those years and so it's going to affect those kids for years to come. And so I think this is something that's going to take some time to negotiate we got to make sure we do it right. And we got to think of those generations to come when we're doing those negotiations. So thank you everybody for coming tonight.


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This is not the case far worse If you rooms of Sam Jones contained using bunk beds place that of mere cuts City the human population density pots on the floor Sable people many times been required to save eyes the top bungs Onto their snus in which no ones in that unconsciousness somebody on the floor and thinking there is on to their head their eighth amendment So when it but in fact it says The judge is ordered by it so far when it's shown there will be thank you Includes our public comment period on a minute break so we can set up for our public hearing Slash district elections covered get six o'clock Hopefully we've 14.1 like hearing Discontinued consideration of drive ordinance adopted mean I'm going to give a brief review of what we're going to be doing The Johnson will help us remain in the process Potential map modific to the discussion Of course last She had a process to transition The city from at-large election of city council members To election of council members by district And we're of course quite well on our way in that Transition we're at the fifth and on and what criteria should be used Hearing after this evening So for this evening to ensure that our transition is to implement number 2018 election that the council to this evening select the final map of voting districts and Determine a sequence of voting that is which districts would vote in 2018 and which will vote in 2020 and then that the council introduce an ordinance in accordance with your decisions As I said, we've had six public hearings two were in February prior to the drafting of any maps We are of course on the third of those three hearings and then the final hearing is scheduled for next week We've talked a lot already before about the requirements for a district team So the issues again, we've gone through this. This is not new But by state and federal law each council district must contain a nearly equal population the district and the federal voting rights acts for be the predominant factor By our city charter the council will continue to consist of seven council members each council member will continue to be elected for a four-year term and elections will continue to be staggered and The mayor will continue to be selected by a vote of the council members We have the optional factors to consider communities of interest a respect for other jurisdictional boundaries keeping districts compact and continuous using natural and manned public facilities in each district in each district and leading up to this evening. You've also talked about how best to incorporate the newly annexed communities and how best to Address the downtown area. Let me let me back up So this all has to do with how the districts are drawn and the mapping process We are down at this point to three potential maps. We have the map 121 b which is the map that you selected last week as The final map to move forward We have received two maps that were submitted after the deadline for consideration at last week's meeting So we will be looking at those two maps as well. Can I stop you for just a minute there Miss Gallagher that those two maps Three and one submitted after the deadline for the we have received no more We know we are we followed last week. So you would look at those two maps to new maps first And that you consider them each on on its own vote up or down on each of those two maps as to whether the map should move forward or not if You decide that either or both of those maps should Have further consideration Then we would group whichever map map or maps you choose group that with the 121 b and Then have the council vote amongst those two or three maps to select the final map. I Do want to mention that since you are we are at a point of the ordinance you took code to make a map if humans have to preserve of applications or is Whether it is one b 131 or if any of those are said it is public next week's meeting if you choose Next week map in place, then we'll be as we've mentioned three districts will vote in 2018 four districts will vote in 2020 The factors that you may wish to Consider the benefits of early representation on the council so that some you may Desire that some districts have representation as soon as possible You may want to consider the benefits of the higher voter turnout in presidential election years So if if a district has a history of low voter turnout, you may vote in 2020 or you want to To weigh in on existing council members and whether they might be reelected or not And I think mr. Johnson will go into that in a little more detail so our next steps again this evening will we recommend that you select a final map and that you Determine the election sequence and that you introduce an ordinance to implement district-based elections for the city of San Rosa We will then Have a final public hearing next Tuesday again, it's scheduled for five o'clock And at that point you will after the public hearing and after any further discussion and consideration You will be in a position to adopt a final ordinance And I will now Hand it over to mr. Johnson starts. I just want to see if there are any There we go. Do you remember from the the last we came down to 121 b and just as a quick spin around for comparison to the eastern district and Some of the other maps you've looked at before Half its population east of the freeway in downtown one two four and seven all pick up and it has more Instead of one district picking up all of the east it really has two districts going off to the east side of town We have the vertical one and two in the south but instead of a third district vertically stacked in the west It has What the writer said was an intentionally diverse District six and half its population from south Stab big central north district Um You may do it at this stage rather than later Minor modifications to one of your preferred map modifications So Then up to the order you do that you you can do it either way in the interest of fostering and tweaking map and I and I believe they've talked to the On notice that you won um Like that's flawed in that it three quarters of the rosalyn annexation and by western boundary west from burbank avenue To stony point road It would take in the entire rosalyn annexation into that district And I believe the population balance could be achieved by bringing district seven southeast urn and stony point And just to confirm we did look at that Because you mentioned you would be interested in discussing any balance out. We would just move down to urn And essentially If we want to show you on the map exactly how far that would need to go give the rest of the council a heads up my thoughts Any at this point Possibly with the map The configure that map Looking at how possible it would be line from summerfield road so that the area East of summerfield road would be included in district three Uh since that district shares bordering on that with the district on the other side of the park east of calistoga road three into And I also just a really small south of the park Between districts two and three at least as you zoom in across a neighborhood and I just want that cleaned up for trail drive yes in a way that Pulls those folks into the same district as opposed to playing hopscotch with it Other questions or comments on this? Your presentation We have a little bit more on sequencing. So this is a public hearing and Choosing a map and then as you address the council As you please Um include comic would sing if you have uh opinions on open the public hearing He'll be in roseland for decades presentation for roseland filed the casutes Although you know that looks pretty good and right up there in the downtown district And you can bet on me and politics and supervisors Because my and the election our system works and I don't get up We just need there's a free in the downtown air no vote over here And but you can't organize a cross vote. They're a center besides mr. Oh, he may be sheriff population It's up almost to 40 and we'll go with that james duncan I'm james duncan Of map 121 It is already provides good One and prove on map 123 is very Across one of seven or anyone else who wants to address Edwards, I live in san or I too agree that resting map to me Because since we're looking benefit for the city, we should use in president other similar presidential Long-term or visit the council seeing no one rise. I'll close the Mr. Johnson the power tricks A conversation and maps citizen voting aid of the story is districts as as using that seems to me that of the 21 be The most those being and seven that 25 As we would be able to find the other maps numbers even just to come Have campaigned in time or another and for city council could probably fly to campaign council, are there any vote first decision which would be good 31 and 133 we'll take each of those As we definitely add so that the all of ocean out in her shred. How no Council member tidbits no vice mayor coursing no No move forward for any for map 133 a roll call vote and the quest forward for further consent And bear with continues to flicker Council member combs Yes, thank you Council member aloe vera's no No Council member schweinberg tidbits No Miracle map number 133 121 is the conversation It's to entertain any I'll go back to start this I thought you started it I think mr. Johnson is of course Is there a field road this in fact rogers concerns also? Field road can go with these uh I don't I don't know how many people that pulls in Sure quickly looked Just the small change here if we don't do the larger some people so we can do that chain We're putting It gets That's fine with me. Yeah, it does get out at the bottom because there's a municipal golf course there Yeah, yeah, so it's not quite The census blocks don't continue down so we jog over a little bit, but here we're looking at Just under 1500 people This would be 1496 going from one to the other As you were anticipating That would take our difference between our smallest and largest over 10 so we would have to balance that Which I was hoping we would do with the north And I get I'm not sure if we can put some of that um Yes, so Let me see It's well depends on how we do it. I don't order Yeah, if we're looking to Just starting at the top here um Oh That is 2,000 people. So it's actually That little piece we're looking at now is already more than we're looking at any other switch and would put us Does that mess up district four too much? It does here And yeah and district one is short by 3.72 So we're a little over 10.  I would like to back down a little bit. Yeah, she gets us below the target park Three is the largest at four So we're It's a high deviation, but we're I have a I have understand that there are Who's on what side of any other comments on? Rogers do you want to oh you already you're concerned May we take each change rosalind change and vote as Then we can take vice mayor then we can take the northeast chat so we could take each take the southern Other change with it or you have really have to move together. Yeah, I'm willing to consider. I'm not seeing the So what I'm going to say because We may want and then making a change on the other side that um, do we want to take a Thank you, and it had to do about rink and valley and I I'm not looking Does that indeed split off of that rink and valley and put it into fountain grove. Can you zoom in on those streets there? I'm trying to figure out how rink and valley that is versus how northern It holds the middle school in before I do not make a mess out of Um, I in the with the intention of doing good Doing bad Is that the red end corner of the green portion? Exactly. So the area we're talking about is above monocito over to baird and it's really the two blocks on each side of the The rink and valley middle school and the school and can you go down a little farther to the south? Sorry to the Okay Yeah, that's can you magnify that just a little bit more for us Yeah, that keeps in the apartment area the apartment buildings along monocito keeps it in the Really awkward Triangle that pokes out and grabs literally one house on that corner. There's a little farther north. Yeah, right that right there That triangle that pops out there And I know that the the census tracts makes it a little bit difficult to get these these lines Perfectly clean, but I'd hate for Do we hear all the time about Somebody right across the street is in a different district this one literally On both sides of them their neighbor will be in a different district from them Well, part of it is as you say is the census tree geography looks funny. You're right never mind Yeah When this is officially the line, which is the dash line It's just an odd where we put the lines people are going to be to the streets And yeah Right Mr. Mayor a concern you had it was a demographer made well proposal goes the field road In part the drafting error and the line folks right here. Oh, so your park trail in district two I was saying have that line follow park trail as opposed to cutting across it's exactly across that neighborhood I mean that district four A little bit east into district three And that does not make district two too small removing those 1500 On this suggestion and clarification on a ship that work Does that the middle school into? I'm here. Yes. Yes. Yes. So sorry The school was one can't get the live map Yeah, so so the school is right here in this Own road and estes drive So when you switch So they're not live connected Yeah, it's called rink and valley middle school. No, what happens if What happens if that goes back into district three? Then three becomes overpopulated. We have to move something else Yes, mr. Tibbets One thing that I was going to say about, you know Later middle school Montgomery Summer part up against the park Of we need to choose Ms. Combs. I'm not haunted the chance to share more on those, but I'm kind of vice mayor rogers Consistent along park trail, but it was in the respective valley district Answer that I my understanding this the schools Summerfield not even an area that is actually more like found where we're living in And so more and they are Who are in Montgomery Village with here? Keeping the middle school And I'm open to suggestions. My goal is that That people have a lot of interest in with the park and a lot more in confidence folks on the other side of the park Graphically already different popular Mr. Mayor, I was going to by that by that logic town that we had multiple districts to have more than one district um when I when I look at the feel that home suggestion, I Suggest that the people are south of don't feel highly I just go ahead and changes because I'm I'm not seeing this and just to go with the small changes I appreciate that and a pretty other other factors graphic include I can also why don't we just move it Ready to vote on this come Okay, so are we are we back at the middle school district that We're ready to vote council Williams. Please call the roll so um no councilmember tidbits Vice mayor rogers no mayor carsey She has the difference between and actually just as a freak One district versus the other technical drafting thing Exactly along the same line, but then I don't think you can see the parcel as well in that It's like one home. It's at the end ahead of the one right District Yeah, so Yeah, so these two since that's 67 people and then It looks like folks off of cotsbury court Park trail drive there Then and puts it in the other one. There's no way else. It's we have enough play in the population numbers What we'll have to do is Which I can't do work it in the ordinance language because you're right. It's I'm cut Trying to figure out I'm trying to see if that picture does it right All right, I think we're ready to vote on this Gomez I get to um districts want overlay the roseless into that Let me add that when you're on Describe first so the the dairy here is the the main stony point Extended across stony point But rather if if we followed that then we'd end up with this house in this house out this house in this house out How many people are we talking? Is that of curiosity? Um, they're in that move Let's see That would then be on the other side of the stony point. Oh, I see 193 In terms Is that one and seven they were five and 25 and those three 27 and 25 uh, it's rounding differences in Uh 20 uh is still 25 Thank you Yeah So and just uh bourbon doesn't go all the way through I think it's all Where is that? Yeah, actually we get a way to It's in a really big block. Um, so the Do we have an Do we have an overlay of the Bellevue school districts? School district brown the school district for the Bellevue's cross 101 just trying to see who's in and who Yeah, you see and if you can I know are you peed still? this is where Wondering what we're trying to I clean that so when you're saying if if um Jen that's in the grid Is there any um Was it a hundred and six still in the in the annexation of the stony point? I think we're still okay. Is that a question of Versus okay, so we'll vote on on this there's an appetite for And let's I just want to what this is what we're voting. Okay councilmember councilmer moloberes Yes Yes Yes All right, and the rosaline annexation My apologies, which one was this this this is bring that little wedge Bringing that in so that's where the rest of the rosalina Councilmember Sawyer member schweinau No, mayor corsie. Are there any edges on map? We've got a map You want to talk for secret work the map you just said Tonight we're going to start off with We've prepared This is really reply. Well, you talked about back of this. So And um There need to be three in 2018 and four in 2020 because that's the current cycle and anything else would change the number People sitting at your table Um There is language about Giving special consideration to the purposes of the california voting rights act. It's nothing specific It was actually written Before the 2016 election So there are two ways to give special consideration That we talked about one is the other is when we're talking about underrepresented areas We're usually talking about low turnout areas as one of the public commenters mentioned Sometimes it's a benefit to have low turnout areas up in presidential years So I meant right away 2016 Now we're two years later and right away means 2018 to gubernatorial year Helping turnout would be 2020 of presidential years. So you're okay in terms of the spirit of law. I think either way and the reason for the turnout issue is As we've talked about in for example in district one latinos are 28 percent of the eligible voters And a relatively lower turnout than the rest of the voters in that area so if it their ability to Influence the choice of who represents that area is enhanced when more of them are likely to turn out which would be your presidential year If you don't if I if I may interrupt you Kenners would be since the on one end. So thank you. Yeah refers to you of the raw data So when we get to 24 Um In 2014 there were 97 Essentially 2600 And then if I scroll over to 2017 now, these are estimates In the presidential votes in district one if I go back to 24 640 640 20 20 20 bring it up as soon as possible Um, there's no right to verify that same numbers So 2020 And 200 votes maybe i'm sorry No in in 24 We're latino 2016 Had 9,006 Whom uh, 2014 20 and had one in each cell Thank you vice mayor stick three to vote a lot chance to get Three in 2016 the 15,600 9,2014 was Yes in 500 Uh, very small number 160 so that piece This decision essentially is members in these districts who are on those cycles and the districts will reflect their cycles so, um Definitely understand and endorse idea of representation as soon as possible, but that's a one time benefit the high turnout year is a Benefit forever The other piece of this, um, council's been very clear about not addressing the issue of where council members live in any of these maps Um, but in terms of sequencing now is when it really is inevitable and and certainly makes sense Especially from the voters perspective to look at this um So what happens is if a Council member's election current term ends in 2018 and they're in a 2018 district No problem. You just run at the end of this term. You just run from the district instead of a large Same thing with 2020 Yeah, if a council member's current term ends in 2020 and they're in a 2020 district They just run by district for the next term Work it's complicated as if a council member's in the other year So if a 2018 if a council member's term ends in 2018 Is in a seat that's up in 2020 At the end of the current term that council member leaves the council There's no vote. There's no voters getting to sit way in a council leaves the council could then run in 2020 Two years down the road as not as an incumbent, but it could run for the seat after two years off the council If a council member's term ends in 2020 and they end up in 2018 See Is to finish the current term and then leave the council There's no once uh passing actually think it'll happen in a couple of the 2020 in 2018 Clear to a council and work with the light For your term and they resign And the council then has a two-year Year election for many two years of their Again, it's very rare Not until 2020 I have no one on the council current main at large until 2020 so Three districts will elect in 2018 The people who reside in the other four districts are represented by the four at-large council members who stay on the council So, you know, they're still represented by them if if there was a vacancy They could be appointed to fill that vacancy if they were to get upset and they could mount a recall against one or more of those for At-large council members are still represented by the at-large council members. You're never without a representative on the council In terms of decision-making we have As you've done decisions aren't made until a map's chosen because you can imagine going through all these scenarios for 15 maps It gets to be a nightmare and doesn't matter for 14 of them Typically if a district ends up that there's only one council member in it That district's assigned to that year that lets and the idea that It sounds incumbent friendly.  They're not the But it does look multiple council members whose council members have to choose As then Maybe lean towards where the two are the 2020 council member could write a great answer to this As I think I actually had an independent commission to recommend against it Which is two And the lot so the voters didn't get decided they were out So that's answer any questions or is that they're uh voting council I said at the beginning of the public here the request sequencing during the public here Given in a previous public here Mr. Toto To select three districts and three and four for the two put together Futter in terms of the fraction We also have option six Which is open if there are other suggestions from the dais that in terms of an option or process you would like to consider So the first option would be a straight elimination voting so you have the seven districts and You would start by With four votes and our goal will be to get to three districts that will go in 2018 And if we don't Have a majority or any one of them get four votes We'll we'll keep doing the cycles of four three two Votes till we get three districts selected for 2018. So that's option one We titled it Option two discuss each and consider each district independently So discuss district one and then vote. Do you want that in 2018 or 2020? If more than three are identified for 2018 then we would do a runoff of those that were Initially identified for 2018 option three Is what we call the incumbency consideration and mr. Johnson Talked about some options here So we could look at the districts where there is only one current Representative right now in that district and their term expires in 2018 If you select that And we have two currently in that situation then for the third District you would vote from the remaining districts Option b is you could we have three incumbents whose terms expire in 2018 and so you could just Select those three districts To be the districts voting in 2018 Option four is the random selection. We put all seven numbers in a hat and we draw at three Option five We're calling the annexation consideration. So there's a couple questions to answer here The first is should the newly annexed area vote for a district representative in 2018? And we would ask you to vote yes or no on that If you voted yes Then the question would be for the remaining two districts should those come from One from the east side of 101 of the 101 or from the west side of the 101 And what we will do for that is we will divide those into two hats And we will sort draw one from each If the answer to is no you do not want to consider that newly annexed area independently or for 2018 Then we would choose one of the other options to make the selection And then option six. This is if there is another Process or method that the cano through then discussion and consideration Thank you It's about the product or any other option Of course five two Perhaps it's becoming an odd might apply to multiple interested in the in the presidential And i'm i'm trying to figure out a option and if it's possible to have a whole Three and you might have The question that Did the district one of the ways to make this gubernatorial was used to make that B is is clear for Using the third district five Yes, and then some opposite sides But you could say presidential turnout date and it's missing there or you could simply look at that have high turnout Where are you going with it miss? What if we made uh using Uh as part of i would still if option five that discussion as part of the Mr. Vice mayor Yes How to delicate um putting people But i i see in the argument whether or not somebody Part of the consideration is the work that they have by haven't again and they have no We have not opened up to manifest itself. We don't have a remedy for it If we are going to be talking there's another side of that what the will of the incumbent is As we have as we take Are there other suggestions for are there comments? Is to put up each of them on each and we'll look for the majority woman comb sad Six would have would be the hybrid hat but have your discussion And maybe we can The public hearings we've had have high turnout and they should wait be better For that to wait until 2020 That none of the people's land and I think the Saturday that i'm going to say it right here their letter to the council of roseland and I happen to agree supporting At least part of option Allow area or newest red to be among the first to from their neighborhood Um To the greatest to come off the scale here And johnson's comments about who Who's going to be an incumbent in the rich just a fact of going to be picking voting in the other four districts, right? I think that the if if Of the And I invite I mean treat that with different groups of people and that when I spoke What is now? They were in fact did say they went over 2018. This was slightly different there. I am aware that we got a letter so supported um, we Interested in your techniques seven a very representation president Who mine for representation? People in to serve on boards and commission The phoenix area have any boards and commissions and to get to I just And of that seven instead of one or that was the because they've had representation in our city forgive me or that argument and I don't frankly that revenues that much that we have themselves to the entire city We will all answer more districts, but at the end of the day And I continue to believe that we as we make our decisions I would feel like I was strapping neighborhoods with a diminish their impact And our is to increase. I don't know what and I would I would want a sense of advantage And um ignored or their lesson The all of the attention is late Not that is proof that get um a Good consideration at least from days. So I would be 2020 Um parental but for their permanence of this decision see how it worked out and change Moving forward into I would I would want them to move for at least that part of the conversation if and and just rogers see and um Help that way to run again the wild card. I know I'm the one. Um, I do chance to term process. So first I want to start with once we get valuable start this even before the fact affected by the comments from Out in the community the best option to allow us Or this 18 a third said 20. I'm updated polling now that we have down for real. My answer is yes I'm drastic and so One of those being 2020 just because um, I know it will be the new district six are unique And I'm not sure I'm a bit of that But I have has been made themselves very accepted distinct challenge in the district And I know water we get the presentation those two districts representing because hopefully in the next two years First also so inter experience just from the west side of here Going to what you choose in this case would be representative or should do that choice So presentation from folks side of town. I don't think that Thank you, mr. Mayor first respect for a seat at the table as soon as possible The long-term implications signing us and being in seven and one Incumbents and so if we're trying to act districts one over there thank you massive Latino community leaders are again helping to develop meeting members to Uh, I have to be able to do that effectively so that you know 20 Mr. Roops who see that they can't beat at the ballot box. We're trying to do what we're trying to do is We Is giving better g and the cvra does not Not a better geographic representation being somebody who would be is Saying to reward somebody by allowing them to even run For elections who make a determination on whether lawsuit I think is the right to run the less and can force the issue But he should be up to the voters. So I six two and four I don't hear a compelling reason some of these why don't we start with Thank you, mayor. So sir and and let me just switch option you want and should one was the 2020 is the incumbency for Your discussion on Councilmember combs. Yes. I have a question after on at this point. No of your prep Before mr. Todd a third option of these option two There's option one option one option one vice mayor option five So we've chosen option one one and let's Option one would be soon And you each have four and you are voting twice four It'll be in five without a fourth two four six two four six Mayor corcy So mayor you've selected your three 135 and say 20 When the map is posted later with all the turnout numbers that we're with the map I'll introduce santa rosa. I'm just he's married. Okay


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Okay, so this is a quick demonstration of the femoral triangle with its contents and boundaries and the erector canal. This is the femoral triangle. Superior boundary is formed by the inguinal ligament, the base of the femoral triangle from the anterior superior leg spine to the pubic tubercle. The lateral boundary is formed by the sartorius and the medial boundary is formed by this muscle, the erector longus. The roof was covered by the fascia letter, part of which has been retained here, a tough deep fascia of the thigh which forms a complete investment around the thigh and the other part of the fascia letter has been retained here, this is the fascia letter. This forms a roof and the same fascia letter also continues naturally and in an especially thickened portion of the fascia letter is known as the aeotypial tract. The roof has got an opening and that opening is called the saphenous opening and we can see the margin of the saphenous opening here. This saphenous opening is pierced by the long saphenous vein and it is covered by a thin membrane which is known as the cribriform fascia, so that is in the roof. The floor of the femoral triangle, the lateral part of the floor is this muscle here, this is the ilio-soas muscle accompanied by the femoral nerve. The ilio-soas muscle comes through the lateral muscular compartment of the sub-ingolent space and forms a lateral part of the floor and the ilio-soas muscle as we know gets inserted into the lecetro can. Going further medially, we have the next muscle here and we can see that muscle when I lift up the femoral vessels. This is the pectinus muscle, we can see it on this side and we can see it from this side also. This is the pectinus muscle. This pectinus muscle is a dual muscle, it's a muscle of the anterior compartment and it is also a muscle of the medial compartment and the next medial most part of the floor is this muscle here, this is the erector brevis. These were all covered by their own fascia which have been removed, so this constitutes the floor. Coming to the contents of the femoral triangle, this was enclosed in a sheath called the femoral sheath and the femoral sheath contained which has been removed and the femoral sheath contains the femoral artery here, laterally the femoral vein medially and the medial most part of the femoral sheath where my instrument has gone in, this is the femoral canal which is a very small canal which is more prominent in females but this is a male cadaver but this is the location of the femoral canal. Apart from that femoral nerve is also a content of the femoral triangle but it is not a content of the femoral sheath, it had its own fascia which is separate from the femoral vessels. Let me tell you about the tributaries and the branches of the femoral artery and the femoral vein respectively. Let's look at the cardinal points of a compass. If this is north, this is east, this is west, we have an artery and a vein coming from the abdomen that is called the superficial epigastric. The artery will come from the femoral artery and the vein will drain into the long subvenous vein or to the femoral vein. From the lateral aspect we have the circumflex, superficial circumflex iliac vein and the superficial circumflex iliac artery, we can see it here. The vein will drain either into the long subvenous or into the femoral vein and the artery will come from the femoral artery and we can see and from the medial side we have this. This is the external pudendal, external pudendal vein will drain into the femoral vein or the long subvenous vein and the external pudendal artery will come from the femoral artery. So these are the three important branches and we can see it here. Apart from that the femoral artery also gives rise to the profond femoris artery which is not visible in this dissection and the femoral vein also receives the long subvenous vein. The femoral artery also gives a genicular branch to the knee joint. The subvenous of the femoral nerve immediately as it comes into the femoral triangle it immediately divides into multiple branches and we can see it here and it distributes itself to all the muscles of the entry compartment. It gives a cutaneous branch one of which has been retained here. This was a long branch and it was supplying the anterior surface of the thigh. Additionally the femoral nerve also gives rise to this branch. This is called the subvenous nerve. It is the longest cutaneous branch of the human body and the longest cutaneous branch of the femoral nerve itself which runs through the ductor canal and it supplies the skin of the medial side with leg up to the medial side of the foot. This is the long subvenous vein which accompanies the subvenous nerve on the medial side of the leg and the medial side of the foot and it opens into the femoral vein by piercing through the triple form fascia. This long subvenous vein is the most common site of a very important clinical condition called varicose veins and when we have a varicose vein then we have to remove the torturous incompetent long subvenous vein but that is not sufficient. After removing the varicose vein long subvenous vein we also have to remove its tributaries namely the superficial circumflex vein, the superficial epigastric vein and the external pudendal vein because if we leave these three veins behind then they can also give rise to recurrence of the varicose city. So therefore this surgery of removing these three tributaries of the long subvenous vein or the femoral vein that is known as trendlenberg operation. So that is the complete surgery after removing the varicose long subvenous vein. So this is a few quick words about the femoral triangle. Let me give a quick overview of the femoral canal though it is this is a male cadaver. This is the location of the femoral canal. Medially is the lacuna ligament and we can feel the lacuna ligament when I dip my finger in. In the case of a femoral hernia which is more common in females when the hernia descends down it comes out through the subvenous opening and we need to reduce the hernia the only way we can reduce it is to cut the lacuna ligament medially and that is the way to reduce the hernia and to be remembered that in 20% of the population there will be an accessory operator artery running behind the lacuna ligament which can be cut in case and produce severe bleeding and last but not the least let us mention quickly about the adductor canal. The adductor canal starts from the apex of the femoral triangle. It starts from here and it ends here. The boundary of the adductor canal is the sartorius and intramedially and the sub sartorial fascia under that. This is the intramedial boundary. The antrolateral boundary is this muscle here. This is the vastus medialis and the posterior boundary is the adductor longus and what are the contents of the adductor canal? We have the femoral artery, the femoral vein and the subvenous nerve. These are the three structures which pass through the adductor canal. This is a diagrammatic representation of a cross section through the right adductor canal to show the boundaries and contents. So that's all for now. If you have any questions or comments please put them in the comment section below. Thank you for watching.


Oh, welcome to our fifth chemical kinetics lecture as you can probably tell from the teacher I'm recording these straight after each other just in case you thought I was you know spreading this out and I'm kind of doing them in bits and pieces now previously we looked at something called the initial rates method that's if you got three kinetic runs and you took three rate constants from some experiments you could solve for your rate law and your rate constant K now I'm going to look at something called first-order reactions so those are the really simple ones and a very neat little approximation called the pseudo first order approximation and those allow us to get a rate constant for any first-order reaction from a single experiment really quite quickly and easily and we're going to determine K from that now there are some other ways of doing this via Excel but you remember if you watched the whole of the last video I give a little bit of a tutorial on Excel I'm going to do that this one separately because there are two methods you can do it graphically you can do it by simulation again it's not going to be examined but you can watch that video anyway but this one is going to be the explanation the next video is going to be kind of the procedure for how to do it so what we're going to cover in this one first-order reactions what are they now we know that they are basically one thing goes to another okay what's the equation so like and so on and a pseudo first-order reaction as you can probably guess from the word first-order it's going to be very similar to a first-order but thanks to that word pseudo why is it slightly different then we're going to look at some actual data and how it would work and then determine K our rate constant graphically so it's a we're going to be able to draw a graph and get a K value out of it so you've seen some of my intro videos I sketched graph out like this and said there was a gradient is equal to K and so on this is the part we are now going to cover so that's so if pseudo first-order react well not sorry no pseudo first this is an actual first-order reaction this will basic dissociation pretty much follows first-order kinetics this is where our rate is dependent on only one variable and that is the concentration of the starting material so our rate our change of AB is proportional to oh this should be B I'm really sorry that should be B I will change it so just the rate of the starting material disappearing equals that so we have a nice exponential to K curve that we could measure say spectroscopically and here's a reaction example so to peroxide molecule breaking down to water and oxygen once again you know microscopic symbolic microscopic think about all the different ways we can actually look at kinetics and which different perspectives we can see it from all the exact same thing going on so this is a first-order reaction so let's have a look at something goes from one thing to the other let's have a look at what it would look like over time you see one decay that's the reactants products appear B that's a I've written this is more fraction so this would be like 100% of a going to zero percent of B here so at the very end and the rate is proportional to a single factor and we can define that kinetically via our differential equations now this is something here we'll cover this in a bit more detail later it is called the integrated rate law so how to get this is well it's integration so you are comfortable with calculus and differentiation integration you should be able to get from this equation to this one no problem but in short the integrated rate law is basically what predicts these two curves that you can see what you can see here is a is equal the concentration a at a particular time is equal to the concentration of a at time zero times an exponential to minus KT okay that looks a bit weird but that is why this decay happens very gradually in a nice exponential fashion because it follows that law now if you see let's rewrite it out as a different way if you might see an integrated rate law like this means pretty much exactly the same thing that's a T basically instead of saying initial concentration we're just going to pick an arbitrary time and then it arbitrary time plus a slight gap so if we were going to do the simulation method where we try to simulate race constants we might use this method a bit more it preaches pretty much the same result as long as you're consistent in fact this is kind of the same thing as this we're just saying that T is in this case we're saying T is zero and the delta time is or whatever the time is produces the same results give a take so an obvious first order reaction is something like peroxide decomposing so in this kind of video hopefully the screen captures gets the gif here you've probably seen at the elephants toothpaste that's pretty much a first order reaction it is peroxide breaking down in this case catalytically but pretty much of its own accord according to just the concentration a second order reaction so we come across this sort of thing before this is the sign of thing like inucleophilic addition so this is an elementary step this is a single step it is the simplest chemical reaction so this is not obviously the end product of a reaction this is just kind of a single step so this means we can do things like k a b to determine the rate so again we're only interested in elementary steps if we've tracked an entire reaction as in what does this then proceed on to we have to determine it experimentally but for the most part we can say this is second order two things are coming together so therefore the rate is dependent on two concentrations so here we have a OH coming in targets a ketone group and there's again I should pay attention to my own diagrams here this should be a seal there and it's nucleophilic addition so that's the second order reaction so how does that work out as well the rate is proportional to two things and we can define that as the speed that the two reactants disappear or the speed that C appears now this is a slightly different plot because I'm actually now doing this not as a mole fraction I'm doing it as absolute moles so the blue line here say that that's two moles we start with one mole of that and one mole of this and that will obviously because this combination go to one mole of that so we're talking about discrete chemical entities when we're talking about moles hence why we do concentration in moles in kinetics so obviously by the end of the reaction we've got zero moles of that left in one mole of this so here we go so it doesn't quite swap one to one in this case but the rate of each of these individually this is not one of those well we could do it as a squared if you want but for now we're keeping them distinct but what if we had a lot of be we'd actually have a plot that looked like this this wouldn't in fact go to zero this would stay quite a bit above zero because we can only do one more of this plus one more of that to one more of C so what if we started with about 10 moles of a and then we added one more of B or what we'd get one more of C out and then nine moles of a leftover there's nothing left for it to react with so as a result one of the concentrations isn't changing very much so and in this case well I've actually ever in the round in this case of the diagram it's B that's unused so B is in an excess so you're used to this in chemistry something is in excess so what's the consequence of that well have a look at this sort of scheme here we've got the exact same you could feel a condition was before but we've got a lot of waitress left over so one two three four six of them one two three four five six seven of them over here seven of them over here so we've got a lot of excess and these aren't going to react at all so let's look at the kind of the mathematical consequences of this when we look at the rate so we're actually six numbers in here these are you can see that's a vast excess so about 0.03 moles per decimeter cubed as a starting number that's a really minuscule amount compared to say 0.5 moles per decimeter cubed of the other of B here equals a so we can then multiply this out to get a rate and the rate will be k times this value k times this value k times that value so that means the rate is decreasing as the concentration of a drops and obviously the concentration of B is dropping as well but only slightly so no point no one moles of this react so one point no point no one moles of this disappears each time so you can see each of these are dropping by minus no point no one but obviously this is dropped by a third this is dropped by just over a percent and so I'm going to make an approximation in the next screen I'm not going to know what the concentration of B is I'm going to assume it's no point no point nine five each time I'm going to assume B doesn't change because it is in such excess I'm just going to take that value as the value of the initial concentration so if I set up a reaction that has B in it I know how much I put in at the beginning I know how much AI put in at the beginning and I'm going to assume B doesn't change I get these values out so I've actually calculated these values these are exactly right you can check the math if you want and what you will find is compared to the previous values notice they hardly changed there in fact only within a couple of percent so obviously it gets as the reaction proceeds a bit further they do start diverging a bit this is within two percent if with this kept going it would probably or if you know if a wasn't a bit more excess and was allowed to proceed to the end obviously this would begin to this approximation would definitely stop holding so at the beginning of a reaction when I think it's in excess is still in excess the pseudo first-order approximation applies that is we can assume the concentration doesn't change so what is the consequence of that consequences that is that we can simplify our rate equals k a B equation to something else k is constant B is constant we can change that into something called k observed now this is where a bit of notation comes gets a bit confusing now depending on which lecture you talk to or which textbook you read k the observed rate constant the pseudo first-order rate constant does change I prefer k obs because this is literally the observed short for observed my handwriting is terrible so is the observed rate constant if we got some data out of this particular reaction that's the rate constant we will be able to determine quite easily it's literally seen but sometimes k one sometimes k prime sometimes k something else k obs is the one I'm going to use but if you are reading all the textbooks and all the sources get used to seeing slightly different versions so let's look at some actual data if a goes to be we're just going to jump back to covering a first-order reaction now the so this is going a going to be or it's a plus something that's in excess going to be so maybe a catalyst maybe another reactant but either way the pseudo first-order approximation will apply so we can treat it like a first-order reaction so it will have first-order kinetics this line as we see will behave as if it is a first-order equation and that it runs according to first-order kinetics now in real life real life you're not likely to get these smooth perfect lines you're more likely to get a little jaggedy nonsense number like this so you can see it does still have that curve down but see these don't fit very well maybe one of these are slightly off we've got enough data points but if you wanted to plot that out it would look a bit jagged so be aware that there is going to be some real data that is always a bit iffy now we are going to cover something about errors and solving this in the lecture series later but for now be aware that your data can be a bit jagged so we're going to plot and do some best fits more than anything else so what actually controls this equation we're going to assume that it's first-order or pseudo first-order it runs according to that this is the integrated rate equation so the integrated rate law comes from a rate law we just apply some integration to it and then we take it out of the log form to this so this is a sort of an equation that predicts and models how the concentration will change and it becomes quite useful because if we take a log of it we actually get a linear equation so this is remember physical chemists like y equals plus c there we go minus mx or y equals mx plus c other way to linear equation and as we can see these four data points here form pretty much a straight line these two don't they're a bit off why would they be off well if it's a pseudo first-order reaction remember as the concentration would be genuinely does decrease it starts to diverge away from that first-order behavior you can't tell just by looking at a curve all rate look quite curves look a bit just like exponential decay curves if human eye really can't eyeball that very well we turn it into a straight line however we can very much see that those do not fit so those last things at the end I've also converted that into seconds remember keep it in seconds to make it useful we can see that those last two data points we can get away with so we want first you know handful four of data points and then let's see what that looks like so if we plot those we get a straight line graph and if we run a straight line through it we get no point 0.79 that's the gradient so there's the gradient out k is equal to 0.079 it's a first-order or pseudo first-order reaction so I will leave you to figure out what those units are yourself I'm gonna tell you you should be able to figure that one out and that's it so let's kind of review all that there's a quite a bit to take in so first-order reactions they are really simple to plot rate is equal to k times a concentration so we can solve for k really easily so we did a bit that towards the end a pseudo first-order reaction is well obviously the real rate is equal is proportional to real k times a times b but suitably large it be the height of concentration then the rate is actually we can k be is equal to k obs and solve for that because that is more or less constant or at least it is constant at the beginning of a reaction for maybe the first first 80% of the reaction usually the last 20% you just wanted to discard in practice so obviously a pseudo first-order reaction is as simple as a first-order reaction to solve you just take a log of the concentration plotted against time get the gradient and so the data for these two types of reactions we collect concentrations versus time so that's our graph and then we plot log a versus time and we actually see that it's a straight line and the gradient is minus k so that is a y equals mx plus c graph really really simple get physical chemistry love it when you can put things into a straight line so that's how you would solve a great constant for a first-order or pseudo first-order reaction I do go over through that again I didn't think in first time I'm gonna go through and do this in Excel in another video shortly so that will cover two different methods one


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