Hello everybody and welcome to another episode. Look at the mic. It's the order actually there to Jurassic world alive Oh my god, do we have a fun packed video today? So depending what happens that will change what the thumbnails called or what you well And what pictures in the thumbnail so on the list for today's video is to hopefully fingers crossed unlock this bad boy all I need is 20 I think Have a look what we got. Yes, I thought I thought it was 20 because like 15. Yeah, we could do that We could do 15 20 What the chances we're gonna get 15 But not only that one thing we're definitely guaranteed to do is finally this now I don't know what I am what I dotted how much I got thing was over 150 I think it was something like that and so we have 390 of this which leaves us with 140 extra and I think it's a hundred to level of one So we're gonna get it to the second like 20 level 22 is it it starts at 21 a thing But anyway, the on talk to coven a to whatever it's called the super evil fluffy is here Love it love it love it Now I think the only reason this thing exists is because I really liked fluffy I really liked I liked when it got it's you know, it's extra hybrid The the the red one I cover what you call a raise. No not called reyes Whatever they're called legendaries, but the thing is it wasn't very good even with its, you know, amazing like distract distract counter and everything Even against the dominant in dominance racks. No, sorry interrupt the gen 2 which was the meta at the time It was it was basically on paper meant to counter interrupt the gen 2 However, I don't do so broken not even not even that could take it on but I Don't know. I think that this is Ludi's way of being like hey beavers. Here you go. Here's something good try this So fingers crossed. It's actually good Only with revenge it's got priority Okay That to me seems a bit pointless because I mean chances are it's not gonna be going first And you're probably gonna be hit twice like if it was something where it got it like an attack increase and a speed increase Then it would make sense that a bit like mutual fury, but just it just to get a tack up Now the thing is this could work if it has a counter, which it probably does that's the only thing I can think of The defense shattering impact. Okay distracting rampage is on a delay of one Swapping destruction a hundred percent.  Are you kidding? Hold on. Let me just check. Did this guy had it right? This guy had a had a counter. Yeah precise shadow encounter Why did I lose that? What did we gain from this? This thing's useless Unless it's like got boosts on it. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's gonna be people that are you know have everything level 30 and have got like a million boosts Saved up ready for it. Um, but I Don't I don't is anyone else see how this can how you can like justify spending millions of coins on it and putting boosts into it for a tactic Yay, we unlocked it. Yes. Oh Man, I was hoping it would have the counter because then that makes sense proud to increase your attack get hit counter Make sense Not quite a bit like my jungle source. I think he's a swap in ferocity and then you know, but I mean That would be cool to see a level 30 my jungle source with boosts on it Just to see that swap in ferocity and the counter. That'd be really good But we're not gonna see that because it's gonna take a load a load of coin next things next or next first things first Should we say and now that's out of the way? Um, there has been a leak Glitch that is what ever's happening recently with Ludi's games They've dropped the ball on many a kid like dressable the game Had just had a binocularist tournament and they emailed me to say that people who didn't lock binoculars got sent the wrong prize So don't worry. You'll get the right prize Also, try sort of gen 2 that I would have unlocked if my game hadn't have glitched They were like, oh, okay. Sorry about that. He is gold. I was like, what do you mean go the gold reward? I want to try sort of gen 2. I would have won it if I hadn't have lost the cups And they certainly this like calculation of here's your cups factoring in, you know The the if you didn't lose then you would have got gold like well, no, I would have kept on playing So they're like, okay, we'll give you tries our tops and it still hasn't come still don't have it and in this game the newest glitch is that The little killer dodo is around again showing if you dart it you get over wrapped it So over wrapped is coming the parent is another Delafasaurus hybrid that has been leaked And not only that this was supposed to be on a Sunday with some other things and it didn't appear So the next week we had to dart it again, which I'm not too like fussed about we you know that didn't really we're gonna get it again So I'm not too fussed about that, but God How many things do you want to go wrong with your game linear? Okay, so so what I want to do is unlock Fingers crossed Hadros all looks and also if anyone's in Australia that can go on discord do the Mortar wrecks because I am I think only 15 or it's probably another 20 25 Which is a poor ask 20 is a tall ask these days I feel the days of me getting 50 or 75 a long go and also my team switched up a little bit more and I Will admit I I may have spent some money on the game because I was sick of losing over and over again Brings me to my third and fourth God knows whatever point game press you you may you may have heard of them If you're any part of this game put up a statement, which I'll probably put up Basically just airing their grievances with the game stating that the game is not fun anymore. All of these is a grind there's no fun going out to dart things anymore because of Areas zones so you know with lockdown and not being able to travel places. You're stuck in the same thing Yes, giga sense are great But over like when it first started giga sense were great because it gave you a chance to dart dinosaurs over and over Over again for dinosaurs that you could get frequently and needed the DNA for but It also exacerbated the issue because you couldn't travel you just facing the same dinosaurs over and over again And it just defeated the point of darting when we realized in the game that there were zones and you were sort of Split up into them, and it wasn't just random It was like well this sucks because I can't go anywhere or I can't you know and the battle systems like what am I on now? I'm on five thousand two hundred twenty nine like Like the lowest I've been a long time and yes, the leaderboard has reset my score was five five two nine Which is when I first started I'm just gonna stay around here for ages It's a matter of what I do and you know a lot of times all I want to do is just get the incubators and I wish there was just a way to get the incubators without doing battles You know maybe if I wanted to do you know I'm in a competitive mood. I'm like, okay. Let's let's actually do some PVP Fair enough, but doesn't you know you may be lucky to time out and be like fight against a I That might be a thing, but that's very rare that you get that Most of time you'll just be fine against PVP and you're just like oh for God's sake I'm gonna lose just just give me the incubator. I just want to go to sleep Just want to set up my eight hours. Let me go to sleep Which is what I find a lot of the time and also one thing I wanted to address as well the daily missions, right? I think personally what they should do with collect the required amount of darts, which is a weird one Okay, um usually it's like dart so many dinosaurs or do so many direct hits What I want you to do if fire so many darts right fire them double it Double the requirements of darts being fired because I don't know about you guys But it seems like a common thing in alliances for the darting Requirement, you know to unlock the the alliance things is usually the last one to be unlocked But if there was more, you know needs for people to dart, you know to get their reward now Hear me out. Not only do I think that the requirements should be doubled, but I think The reward should be doubled so instead of a hundred T-Rex DNA. How about 200? That's a lot That's a lot of DNA to get every day, you know So you could double the T-Rex DNA and probably triple the requirements because let's be honest What's collecting 60 darts? It's like 10 supply drops. It's like two seconds. So make it. I don't know 500 darts I mean worst case scenario you go into the market and buy the darts, right? Like when what's that cost you 500 coin or something like that and let's say Fire the required amount of darts a hundred what what's that? That's like five Creatures that you you've you know, you got close to that's like what five minutes on a giga cent I was switching with a normal cent make it five hundred and I think not only will it help, you know People will get better rewards, but they'll also you know help towards the alliance Because I feel like a lot of time people just log in get the rewards do a few battles get the incubators bugger off Because let's be honest doing that sounds simple. It sounds easy. It sounds quick But it's not because the battles take freakin ages because you'll lose lose lose win lose lose lose And you know, what do you want to do is just get the incubators like for God's sake? So I do understand understand with game press where they are coming from and moving on to this week's events We have for a minute of Tuesday, which you know, this is going up. I think Tuesday Is it Tuesday? I think so Try startups gen 2 and enosaurus, which let's be honest if you're a high level if you play this for a long time You're not really fussed about those. However, dry try something to you might be because of Draco seratops Wednesday to Friday all the reyes nuzuta seratops Draco Rex and try seratops Try startups. I really don't think there's any need to get it stegoceratops Isn't that great and one of stegotops is also not that great Draco Rex possibly you with you Taranix That's pretty good. I use that, but I wouldn't say it's the best creature So I'd say nuzuta seratops or Draco Rex nuzudo because I find nuzudo is the rarest to get so probably and nuzudo And then Saturday to Sunday, we have so the seratops stinging mollock and griper searches again Oh my god. Give us some good ones Lydia. Jesus Christ Right if I grab a suit so many times center seratops has been in the game since the beginning and Stiggy mollock like We had that for the longest time as a reward. I mean Stiggy mollock I guess makes sense because a turramolok, right? But you know, I guess if people are just starting you and this is the thing, you know I'm saying this from a player who's played since the beginning Center seratops is you know, we've had so many chances to dot center seratops and griper sutures. You know, I don't have the hybrid the unique Up to max level. I've only got level 28. I can't really complain about it But I just want some more rare ones Diplodocus, I'll say give me more Diplodocus Or for the rest can I just have more of this just give me more cooler frigging sutures gen 2 I'm also starting to try to work towards Mamalania Just because of 50% armor the massive health the pretty decent attack and The fact that it's slow, right, but you got resilient rampage Yes, it's delayed a little bit But you can instantly go for a dig in taunt and nullify some damages come towards you next time go for resilient rampage and Or you know, there's options. There's there's a little bit of strap there You could go for taunting bellow not the I don't think you would really persistent ferocious strike And then resilient rampage do a crud ton of damage as well as it being immune to stun speed decrease So it can't ever be slowed The swap prevention as well can be here here or there It's swap prevention is mainly for like skill tournaments. I would I'd imagine that's usually where it's for Monoraians Do a pop maybe we'll get 90 maybe we'll get 90 or 10 Of course, it's 10. It's always 10. It's never not 10. Is it so while I'm donating DNA for coin This is always what I find better Let's do a set up a hadrosolux raid shall we Oh, no, I'm doing this on an iPad. Oh, no now the thing was with Activated, you know the newest unique that everyone's probably unlocked and it was this animation and Sorry, oh god. This is horrendous. It's a huge iPad. It's hard to doubt with you think you'd have more control But you don't um Yeah, it was like this animation and this animation super easy to dog So I was quite glad for that. Yes finally unique I don't know about the exiting out and you know if you don't get a good dart I think they fixed that I could be wrong But that means that we can at least do one more pop for Gemini titan one pop a survey sir 70 20 very good. I'll take that could have been could have been a lot worse could have been half this But 20 I'll take almost there to level 20 Oh, hey, let's go Liz go. Oh, here. We go. I'm through the day. I'm doing this before I've had lunch Right day raid let's go. Oh excited we can do this I mean when I play as mom I have the easiest job in the world because I just sit there and go First attack first attack first attack Um Okay, so why we're doing this I want to mention something That is came up recently bit of drama. Oh love drama So normally when it goes when it comes to like doing raids and stuff like that I used to go to a an alliance called killer raptors And I would they would also share their sanctuary with me, which is really nice of them And I you know, I met loads of people in their cat Leonidas are just a few that stick out to me who were always there to help whenever I needed anything but This all changed recently Unfortunately, I was banned from the discord server You don't you want to know why why I was banned. It was absolutely stupid So basically I Sort of knew I didn't really know too much by the leader of killer raptors who I think goes by KP These message me a couple of times And we've all been fine, but when I was doing a raid about a week ago I I made a joke because I was being edgy. I made a joke I said Like this guy called Eddie came on and now Eddie is one of the top Players in their alliance and it's a leader in his in his in his like tags and stuff In his roles, so so I said to him after this Eddie, do you want to join my alliance? Just as a joke just a fling away joke. I said that and Well, we we just started doing the battle if you didn't even respond to it Like I was just joking And we start doing this like a raid like this and then all of a sudden I got a message from a bot Okay, it's like you have been banned from killer raptors. I was like what because I used to use killer raptors for strats I used to use them for our communication to do raids and stuff like in my alliance We got you know, we've got some really good players. We've got Zeke dad John C Well, I forgot his name now Death Rocker was another one Oh, so we need to go for the big one. I'll go for the big hit I'll do it so we have like our own and discord and stuff But it just seemed like they're like their channel had all the strats and stuff which we've also gotten as but now that I was Basically banned for like what was just a joke. We're using our discord now. This is great So I'm being more active in it, which is also great So I was I was genuinely because I really was I banned because of that So I found out that I was banned by Kp the leader of Oh, you were kidding me Whoa, what? That was so close 400.  I was like Just being like and and to roar as well He's another great member of our alliance was like because he was helping out as well said I've just been banned From from a discord from their discord, sorry, and he was like, yeah I don't know. What's up with that and So then people started saying stuff about Killer raptors like the alliance and they're being a little bit toxic and I was like well I haven't experienced any toxicity But then they were saying that it was the actual leader who's toxic And loads of the alliance to start saying that too I was like really is it and then he came into my discord and started saying would you a band for a reason? You were trying to recruit. I think it was a joke But apparently he takes his like alliance incredibly seriously and to the point where he even Like in the announcements of all like of the of the disco of their discord server pinned Showing that the bot banned me for recruiters like beaver game beaver banned as if like yeah, we banned him I Saw a message him saying like look I don't I'm not gonna block you from our server But you probably want to take that down because you're only like inciting like Toxically it was like, okay Anyway, anyway, so I want to say last thing I'll ever say about killer afters toxic leader apparently But I also want to say thank you to everybody who doesn't represent that Who has helped me in the past But it's such a shame that it ended like that because there was a couple of times where he came out to me and said like KP said like about not helping with the sanctuaries And that like loads of people are annoyed loads. Why you know how my sanctuaries man? It's a game it's a game, but anyway, I can understand I from from a certain perspective Why he was annoyed? Like if you thought that it was legit because it wasn't I was just joking God So yes, so thank you to everybody like I said Leonidas cat And some other people that joined and I've got a load of killer actor members but I I assume I now got to just remove them because it's just like clogged up my friends list when it comes to Thinking if you want to reach out fair enough But good news is you know should I just go for a regular hit if we're not gonna kill him Like should I just do that? There's no what no hello? Ang CW and Yeah, they're really thinking like oh we didn't kill him last time Honestly, I think I just got unlucky. I got lucky that I didn't get any crits We should be able to kill him if it happens again, because this is a 4-2-1. I'll just go for the regular hit I mean here we go here He's only gonna go for a shield and he's already Oh, I don't know I don't know either way and but because of this we've now joined up with two other alliances we've got the I think it's the raptor brotherhood and The is a black diamond black diamond alliance. I just want to make sure it is raptor brotherhood It's killer raptors rapid brothers like oh, it's confusing So yeah, we've joined up with those way more chill way more relaxed and like no stress And that's the way this game should be like a few of members have left my alliance and went to raptor brotherhood And we still like we still like to raise and stuff together, and I'm not blocking them Poaching alliance members. Oh God that was close. Okay, so is it a regular heel heel all around very good And I'll just go for the biggest it yeah, there we go good So yeah, just wanted to explain that whole drama Why people why I why I was banned and my side of the story I don't know whether you know people have said actually he was banned because he was recruiting and he was trying to be toxic And you can see the log, and he was literally just like hey after this we enjoy my life It wasn't been see like he came but Eddie came on and I saw that he was leading it was like oh Eddie's here You see that's more like that's what should have happened I don't know whether did I miss it and suddenly didn't go for a thing anyway And apparently he was like he's where crew is trying to get a leader ban him Yeah, it's just oh I love discord, but there's just some some dramas some dramas that come on It's the internet. It's a game But hopefully fingers crossed this will be the one and I know pro see I don't know if he's in killer actors I think he might be wrapped brother pro see I think he was wanting to do this had or so looks raid And because he was gonna unlock it he was I think he knew he was 15 away I was 20 so I was like I actually don't know whether or not I'm legit gonna be able to unlock it He's poor if I get 15. Oh my god So gonna happen so gonna happen But this is a longer one I mean it's like I've been working for 47 minutes. I haven't because we've been setting up this raid But hopefully we should get a back-to-back apex raid with Mortem as well Because we've got a few people in Asia time zones, so they should run about now have Mortem Rex So once we do this with help from the rock to brotherhood alliance as well Well, we don't have any sanctuary shared with rock brotherhood black diamond though Got to level 20. I'd be very good. I've been talking a lot. I Just want to say thank you for everyone who has Helped out who has contacted me Regarding this whole situation because what when killer raptors just blocked me for no like ban me for that reason. I was like Crap. I've just like lost like contacts. I've lost raid strats But we've got all that now in our alliance in the game of beaver corner Which is I this culture by the link in the description below But I just want to specifically say thank you to rate shallow dawn Borut as well. Um, I think they were the main ones that contact me. I think there was another One just want to make sure I'm getting this all right. I love this with Mortem I don't even need to pay to go back done There was another one recently and I can't seem to find it Damn. Well, anyway, there was more than one. I can tell you that who definitely helped out with me So We also helped out somebody as well, I think tsunami from our discord We helped out do a a raid Because they they've never done apex rate, but we carried them. I think that I think it might have been this one They were just tristorn X I think And oh, maybe it wasn't it was one where you could use a low-level tristorn X So yeah, also one thing I want to mention. How do people have these crazy emotes? What is it? It's the the brachiosaurus and I know the t-rex I'm missing me. Are they in like the paid-for incubators you have to buy those ones because I've seen the t-rex It licks its teeth, but then there's like a brachiosaurus that I think I've seen two brachiosaurus Maybe it's just one But I must be I'm just missing out. I'm not seeing them They must be paid for either if they're books fair enough. I'm happy with the books We have to pay for remotes. It's like come on. Yeah, that's a bit crazy Okay, so we're getting the taunt and shield from our dentist, which is great and this should be yeah I don't know what happened the first turn, but just shows if you go you can go off script You just have to survive you can swim by yourself without the armbands How darey that was my time I love the snowball small is it a snowball? It is a snowball. I always thought it was just a weird little Yeah, I have that one too But there's loads of emotes I quite like them actually Very rare now it used to be every battle you'd get the people who would do that Let me yawn. Oh, it's frustrating. It was so frustrating But now I think either most people have emotes turned off or Wait was that a thing? I didn't see that one. What was that? Was that a new one? I think that might be in a new one. Oh, it's I haven't heard that sound effect But now I'd see very rarely some toxic people or very rarely I see toxic people on here last round Here we go and like if they if they do that one the laughing point You can just laugh and point back with a yawn though It's so passive aggressive But now because you have the laughing point when somebody does the passive aggressive one You can just point laugh at them be like really you still doing that? So I think when they added the point laugh it was good. It was good I thought it was just gonna be even more toxic. I like was it was that a good idea? I don't know But yes, it was good. Good job, Lydia. You did good. You've done a lot of weird friggin things before I should have also put up. I just found the image that shows all of the hybrids Like the Acto-Ovenator that's coming. Yes, the Gorgotribax. Yes, but then you've got the Dakotanops the Aquilo-Duck curious the Pucandictylio and the Overlofasora, which is like an eulacosaurus Overraptor I'm assuming so I don't know how they've managed to leak all of those but good job, Lydia Okay, they're dead. I had a heart attack. I was like wait, there's a zero Oh, it's not me. Oh, thank god. Oh, and whoo, they're doing a different raid. They're doing a steedarnix raid Oh, that's the the unique the thing is there's so much going on in the game now Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it's like all I think oh, we can just go all out here. Just go vote. Let's target boss Uh, where's that one? Let's target boss. Let's go big hits We got one two three. Can we kill it come 14,000? Hell, let's go. Let's go You got me normally if you've got a really strong You can just do this like boom by him 4,000 incomes mine, which should do 6,000 and then our dentist maxima should do 3,600 that's without a crate and I don't think we'd be able to kill us One of us needs to crit. Oh, there's the crit. Oh, there it goes. There it goes There it goes. Oh, no, it wasn't you. Is that one? $17,000 how much how much damage well done raptor brother and two beer and pal there you go. That's it's like avengers Okay, fingers crossed now Now we Okay, well, thank you interactive Come on. Come on. What we're gonna get come on something good 20 20 is all I need 20 is all I need come on So looks yeah, hold on you tell them guys and you tell them. Oh, there we go Now I think I'm with the other apex raids. I have missed some Uh with the sino saratops and something else that I have definitely missed another that'll happen again Uh, yeah, I should be on like 130 140 for sino saratops, but I'm not but here we go. Here we go Oh gg guys. Thank you. Everyone helped out here. Go ahead. We're so Here we go Oh, yeah So five thousand one. So this is all help. This is all resilience What attacks does it have though?  It's a resilient strike Not bad. I suppose a rampage which is straight off the bat 3000 damage It's pretty good. It's not as good as mormon rex. Obviously the resilient rampages are under delay Medium resilient counter attack Now because we've already got 5000 health Does that mean that if we fully maxed up hadras or looks? Because you can do that. That's 20 straight away. Would it have over 10,000 health? And this is the thing right where Where is the the medium point for you to have enough health where you can probably just put in everything else to attack or speed? because I think 1000 health is around about the sweet spot It means that majority of time even if you go second, you're going to get a hit off And the tactic if something isn't great at attacking is that it'll slow down the opponent to get another hit off And in this case hadros could do it hadros could go for a ramp Resilience strike and then a resilient rampage But if it is fast it go for rampage then resilient And it has great a heal as well Um now granny heal has to do with this attack So the more attack it does the more it heals itself, right? Yes Oh, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to think like what could I do? I could put 19 straight into it if I wanted to I could put how much attack six six attack into it And I could put five. Oh man. I can't wait. I can't wait to do that. Okay Right guys join me in a second where we are hopefully gonna level up mortem rex to level 28 What would that bring its attack to? Let's have a look. There's so many Um, so it's tax on three thousand one hundred and fifty if I level it up three thousand three hundred and seven Damn another hundred and fifty seven attack. And what about its health? Its health war goes up at three hundred That increases the survivability a lot like when I face when I use mortem rex a lot of times I'll either just leave something alive or Well, basically it's I'll leave something just alive. So that means at level 30 I'm gonna like more rex is going to kill everything. I've seen a lot more rex with the 127 speed 120s But then they don't have the attack Uh, or they don't have the health So, I don't know. I think maybe we get to level 30. Maybe we'll take some health off and then put some more attack on I don't know Well guys, yeah, we're gonna rub it up there Wow, there's a lot to digest here a lot of glitches Uh, a lot of drama in a way not really. I don't really care about it too much and uh, a lot of glitches unlocked We've got a new unique and we've got a new apex dinosaur Um, I'm just curious like what's the best thing to do with it like I mean, it's already got tons of health So maybe speed and attack I mean, it makes more sense to give it health, right? It's a health tank It could probably take two massive hits and still keep on going But you give it loads of attack you balance attack and health at least then when it emergency heals It'll recover more health, right? I don't know. I don't know. Well, thank you. Bye. Where are you guys for joining this video? Leave a like till next time I'll see you later. Oh, bye. Bye


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Hello everyone. This is the weekly TSC call. So as you very well know, this is a public call. You can all join in and participate. I only see like TSC members and a few other people maybe, but so you all know this drill. The anti-trust policy and the code of conduct that you all know by heart and love. So you're aware of them. Let's move on. Announcements. I think you all know about the weekly developer newsletter as well. Maybe we can save, write the spiel. Thank you. I did want to highlight the fact that the common repository structure description, which is like the textual version of it, has now been merged and is available from the TSC website. And so, you know, in case you forgot to miss that, we had agreed to a common repository structure, but it was tied to support using RippleLinter to enforce it. We agreed to forego that requirement to use RippleLinter. And so we have now moved to this textual description of what the structure ought to be. And projects are free to use whatever tools they want, whether it's RippleLinter or something else. You can even do it manually if that's what the text, but, you know, so now this is what defined the repository structure and anybody, you know, any old project should follow that definition, be compliant with this. And if there are issues with the definition, of course, you know, you should bring them up. You can find an issue against the Ripple, but maybe bring it to the TSC as well, depending on the level of the issue. Either we'll handle it locally like we used to do for the RippleLinter actually. We used to have this config file and a few of us got into trying to implement it, you know, using it. And there were some changes that were made. We didn't every time go back to the whole TSC to get approval. And so I expect us to do something similar here. If there are some small changes that need to be done, they can probably be handled at the Ripple level. And then if there are major issues, we can bring them back to the TSC for discussion. And then there's the new chat system available for testing. Although I want to highlight that because it was a bit of a discovery to me. The way Rai presented it, the way I interpreted this presentation was, hey, there's this new possibility, there's a new chat system. You try it out, see if you like it. But in fact, what we are being told is there's a new chat system we are being transitioned to. And so you should just start getting acquainted with the tool. But Rai, I'll let you speak to this. Yeah, that was some confusion on my part. And I apologize for passing that confusion on. This is the future. And I think it's a lot better than rocket chat in terms of extensibility. And the clients are definitely a lot better. There are plenty of things about that I'm not a fan of. But help the LF beat this thing into shape and make it what it is that you need. So is there any questions about this? Because this is important, obviously. It's going to impact everybody across all the projects, including the TSC. And obviously, a lot of us are good.  Like Arun sent me his regrets through rocket chat. So it's going to end it. So Rai, can you tell me more or tell us more about the transition? I mean, what's the expectation in terms of timeline? Okay. So right now, it's 100% manual. So channel creation and adding people as moderators for a channel, all that is manual. I have to ask someone to go and do the thing. There is a feature in the project control center, which is what we use on the back end that will enable that. It would basically just turn it into a couple of clicks. And then once that's done, we'll be able to begin the transition. In earnest, looking through rocket chat, it's definitely a power law distribution. There are a few channels that have a lot of participation. And there are about 100 channels that have essentially no participation. So I would like to cherry pick the very active channels first and see how many of the other channels we really need to bring over because if people aren't using them, I'd rather not bring them over. I agree. I mean, it would be a shame not take that as an opportunity to do a little bit of house cleaning. But so you said you were waiting for some of the back end stuff to be ready for more automatic migration. But do you have a timeline for this expectation? Are we talking about like a couple of months or? All I can say is Q3, which is next quarter. So this is like my interface to this. This is a tool that we use to manage projects. So there will be like here. There will be like an option where I can create mailing lists and there will be something like create chat channels and stuff like that. So that option is not there. So once that's there Q3, then it will be much easier. All right. I see that Mark has his hand up. Yeah, Mark, go ahead. So is this a Linux foundation developed tool? Is it something that if we want enhancements, we could write code and submit them? So this is using matrix and the client that is embedded is element. However, any matrix chat client that supports SSO can connect. So I've tested it with a number of clients. I find element to be the nicest client. But yes, if you submit patches to matrix or the client of your choice, I would expect those to be upstreamed. That's appropriate, right? Anything else, anyone? All right. If not, let's move on. Is there any other announcements? Okay, not. So in terms of quarterly reports, we have two reports that were still there. That was, sorry, that were already there last week, but they had popped up fairly shortly before the call. So I want to give people more time to react to those. As far as I know, there is no issues that were raised that deserves time to discuss here. If I'm missing any, please let me know. So, Bawa, you made a comment to the fabric? Yeah, I thought the fabric know that. Okay, that's good to know. Thank you. And nothing got added to so too. So is there anything anybody wants to raise now? Otherwise, I think we're done with those two reports. There are no other reports. If you look at the calendar, it doesn't call for any reports for this week. So I'm happy to say we are current with a calendar. And I have to give credit to the projects to keep up with us and do their due diligence and find all the reports in due time. So we're in pretty good shape. All right. Otherwise, the main agenda item and only one I have really is the incubation entry considerations. So there is a wiki page. It's linked from the agenda.  We went through some of it last week. And there were a few changes that were done offline, but fairly little. And so I wanted to just continue this and see if we could get to, you know, a level of satisfaction where everybody can say, yeah, that's fine. We can leave it at that. So I mean, we are missing Tracy and Arun who both contributed along with Dan or the most part of the text, but hopefully you can still make some progress. I can say that there were several items that Arun had proposed to this that were moved off. And yes, you may have seen because you were tagged at least the TSE members, you know, he has created a new issue now for like expanding the incubation exit criteria for to eventually add things that we want to be part of the exit criteria, things that he brought up and people say, well, I don't think that should be a requirement for entry to incubation, but sounds like something we should have for exiting incubation. So some of the items that have been crossed out here pertain to this. I have to admit I forgot where exactly we were. So if anybody remembers, I forget. I remember we did the code base and there was, we had some discussion on the maintainers. I thought we were at the end. I'm sorry. I thought we were at the end. We went all the way to the end, you say. That's what I remember, but maybe my memories were wrong because I'm old. Well, I wanted to offer everybody to bring up any issue they had or are you happy because the default is, you know, if nobody wants to add any more comments, then we would agree to whatever is in there now and say, okay, this is what it is. How do people feel about that? And then since you have had quite a bit of your hands into this, if there are things you think are worth discussing here or that we ought to discuss before we can call it done, please let me know or let us know. I think we didn't get enough discussion time on overlap and charter documents. I think there's some things that kind of slipped in, but I'm not sure we want there. Mostly in charter. I don't recall a specific section on a project's charter ever being in any of the prior considerations. I mean, that was kind of implicit and what they spoke about in there, but that seems to kind of a bit new. And the bit about the TSC considering it, I don't know if that's a requirement or more something that you do to manage the expectations of projects coming in that they're not going to necessarily get a vote the first day that they submit. So reading through some of the changes we did since last week, and those are the two that stick out for most parts. But some of these are already implicit in the HIP document that aligns with the charter. Maybe it's probably good to make that explicit rather than implicit. Yeah, so I mean, if I understood correctly what you talked about, when you talk about the charter, I mean, there is no currently we have no concept of charter per se, right, for a project. We have a description of what the project is about. But I think maybe there's a problem there in the sense that, you know, if we start referring to a charter when we never really had that defined. It sounds like a different method of discussion we should have, because we also mentioned, you know, what if a project veers from its charter, you know, what if it evolves. And if none of the projects have had explicit charters, it's hard to veer from your charter. I mean, you can totally veer from your initial proposal, but the proposal sometimes is to build this project and get it working. And then, of course, the charter is going to evolve at that point because you have it working. You either go into maintenance mode, which is boring, or you add new features, which marry and not be in the charter. You know, the sad truth is when projects are getting code commits every week, some people tend to think that they are, it's a stagnating project. So it's a dilemma. It's like, you know, there's a mature product doesn't necessarily have code changes every day. They're fixing bugs as they come in, rather than, you know, presuming that nobody's using it. So it's a tricky thing there. But some projects might want to, you know, change their charter because they might have realized that it was a bad idea. I mean, ideally, you'd want to figure that out in labs, but they might get further into the implementation and figure out that what people really want is something slightly different outside of the proposal. I mean, the charter, I think, is too nebulous for us to put on new projects until we figure out what it means for all the other projects in hyper-leisure. Yeah, I think the one case where we have referred to charters is indeed the issue when we felt like, well, some projects didn't live up to the expectation in a way, you know, and the case in point, especially when we talked about projects that were presented as if they were going to support multiple frameworks and ended up on the supporting one, you know, and we said, well, they are not fulfilling the charter.  And that's it. We do have a charter for hyper-leisure itself, but we have never had charters for the projects. Yeah, and that's probably, you know, the charter for hyper-leisure is something maybe we should revisit because the first point is completely done, you know, hyper-leisure's built fabric, which was one of the original charter goals. So, you know, the rest of it seems to support it, but I mean, it's almost like we need to consider a rechartering process for, you know, examining a charter of hyper-leisure and getting charters for all the other projects. That's a big, big undertaking that, you know, we need to buy in from all the other projects before we even attempt it. So there is an effort underway to revise the hyper-leisure charter to make it more in line with what it hyper-leisure has become, and this will be submitted for review and eventually as to be approved by the board. Is that a governing board so committee, I assume? Not a TSC issue? Actually, so this has been handled by the, what do we call it? Ellen has been leading this. It's the same task force that has been handling the revision of the website and the greenhouse. Marketing committee almost, yeah. Not quite marketing. Related to the TSC, but you know, obviously the TSC is not going to, is not the final approver for this. The charter is under the control of the governing board. The scope is greater than the TSC scope. So of course, yeah, that makes sense. So it's governing board that has control, right? Yeah. Yes. So, but so I, you know, then the second part of your statement was about, you know, creating a charter for each project. I mean, I would have to ask, what are we solving if we were to do this, you know? So, part, yeah, what we saw was we give the projects a clear scope. So it's probably going to be a really simple thing of going back to their proposal and taking it about and just rephrasing it. Because, you know, some, because we had that discussion of decharter, not dechartering of limiting projects who aren't meeting up to their charter. They don't have a charter. That's an ineffective thing that we can't hope. There's nothing to hold them against if we're going to do that. So right now, I don't consider that to be something that the TSC could do since nobody has charters. Yeah. So I just grabbed, this is just the top one. And I went through a bunch of these just now. And a lot of them have a, you know, the context, the motivation, the scope, right? None of them have anything that I would say is a charter. So, that's right. Yeah. Mark? Oh, I was going to say I thought the project proposals were basically equivalent of a charter, right? They're saying what the project plans to do. And this is, again, a discussion about entering incubation, not, you know, six months after you've entered, you're already, you know, this is to get you into incubation. So the proposal is what we have. There's no charter at that point. And then down the road, we could look to see if they're meeting their original proposal or not. But that's what I was going to say. Do we need a charter because the proposal does, you know, kind of fulfill the same goal in a way in describing what this project is going to be about. So I don't know that we need to define yet another piece of document. I'd be happier to avoid using the word charter and instead talk about the proposal, you know, that was set forward. Because the issue, again, in this case was, you know, oh, you've said, you know, the project was approved based on some expectations set by the proposal, and that never were fulfilled. And so you could argue, well, you know, you did us wrong, you know, relatively speaking. But I don't know that having a charter, we change that we can just go back to the proposal and say, look, we said we're going to do this. You didn't. Yeah, I would propose removing the whole section on charter for this. It's not I don't think it's something we need for a project to go into incubation, because we have the project proposal.  Yeah, and that's about where I was getting to, you know, the discussion for charter implied, we have all the projects have a charter and since we don't want that, it's unfair to make new projects have a charter to hold a two different standard. So that I would support the proposal as well to remove the charter section. So I think the first bullet is important, though, right? I mean, it's kind of obvious, but it's very likely saying, you know, it's a project proposal, if the proposed project doesn't fit within Hyperledge or charter, well, we're going to say no, that's pretty clear. So it's maybe obvious, but maybe it's worth bringing up. Yeah, that first point is worth making explicit. Haven't we already violated that? I think we've brought in applications, which we weren't going to originally. That's a good point. But as you said, that's, I mean, yes. But it shouldn't be, Troy says, hand up, and I'll point out that Bobby has posted it. We had Troy first, right? Yeah, I was just going to agree that from the discussion I'm hearing, it's probably best to remove this section for now. And Bobby has linked to a document in the chat channel. Okay, the new chat channel, I'm going for every chat around trying to look for it. Yes, thank you, Bobby. Arun, welcome. Hey, thanks. Sorry, I joined in 20 minutes late. So on this section, right? So let's say, if we were to rephrase the charter, but what I would still like to have is for any new project that is getting proposed into Hyperledge, it's better to have a period of time where it goes through a public review process. And I'm not saying that it's, I mean, it's a counter thing that TSE would anyway do a review of the proposal. But it's better to have more rise and go through that proposal. So I guess we can combine this with the previous requirement, right? So in the HIP phase, sorry, in the HIP document, I see there is a section which mentions that project proposal must be floated around in the TSE mailing list before it gets proposed. So probably we can take that as a mechanism and say, hey, when you propose this through this mailing list, it probably enters into that public review phase.  And it's just a better intense of process is what I believe. So I've been talking about the third point in within the charter that we go through a public review comments or a phase where we ask for comments. I mean, if you want to rename this from charter to something else, it's fine. I would expect a process like that to happen. So I agree with the intent there, but I don't think we need the charter for that. What people can do is what Tracy actually did, I think she mentioned that on her call before that they're working on bringing up a proposal to move the Blockchain Automation Framework Lab to a project. And she actually put the HIP together and she published it to the lab mailing list asking for feedback. And I think that's a good thing to do. It's like, well, try to socialize it, but you might as well do it with the HIP directly. So the applicant just said, and she says in her email, well, we'll bring that up to the TSE and before we do so, we'd ask for early feedback. So I think some of these things are good, but they're not specifically... So there's a mismatch, I think, in what's written there and what the intent of the document is about. We talked about entry considerations, right? This is not like real consideration. It's more like advice or recommendations to the applicants. You'll probably have a better experience if you do those things, but I wouldn't make it related to the charter in particular. I think some of this could be moved to a different section at the end, other recommendations or something like this, and you can list a few things that people should probably consider doing as they are planning to bring a proposal to the TSE. Would that work for you, Aaron? So I mean, do people really think it's... I mean, shouldn't it be a mandatory process or should we keep it as an optional recommendation? For me, it doesn't have to be mandatory because it's like, well, if people feel confident they don't need it, well, let them take their chance. I think the reality, though, is that in the past, this was done informally, right? So every project had this informal socialization phase. So I kind of agree that it's implicit. All the other projects have done this. Hart? Sure. Yeah. I mean, one of the things that I wanted this sort of effort to do is to sort of summarize things that people have done and things that are sort of expected of people implicitly. So I mean, we don't have to make anything necessarily an explicit requirement and, you know, after going over this for years, it seems like we're probably not going to be able to make everything explicit in our incubation requirement, right? But what we want to do is we want to give people sort of a good idea of whether their project will be accepted or not if they submit to the TSC. So I have no problem including things that are not hard requirements, but maybe recommendations in our, you know, final output of whatever this sort of documentation is, right? So it may make sense to say things something like, well, in the past projects have done this and people will appreciate it if you do it. Well, to add to that, it's really about setting expectations. And so, you know, even content that's like, here's kind of the way we think this is going to go. And these are the types of comments to expect is helpful when someone hasn't been through the process before. Yes, I agree. Okay. But so what I heard pretty loud and clear is that the charter section as it stands right now should go away. And then seems like there's agreement that some of the, you know, recommendations there could be saved in some other section. I want to go back to the first point because I think Mark kind of, you know, raised an interesting point. I'm still not sure how to what to do about it. You know, on the one end, logically speaking, you know, we should enforce that new project proposal fits in the charter. At the same time, historically, we just haven't. So are we precluding people from bringing something that maybe will make us revisit our charter by saying you must, you know, your proposal must comply with it or fall within the hyperledger charter, in which case we're better off not having that bullet. Just leave it out on purpose, not accidentally. I guess the the voices that I would like to hear from are I don't see in the list here today. And that would that would be from the firefly team or and like ask them if this had been in place when you made your proposal, would this have helped? You know, just because they were the most recent group to go through. And before that it was Bezu was the last project to come in, I think. So cactus. So I would ask the people who led the cactus effort if that would have helped or made it more clear what the expectations were. I mean, sure. I mean, we knew what we were getting into for cactus. So I don't know if that was sort of the best example because we had a number of people that had, you know, been around for quite some time. So like, you know, I've pretty much been around hyperledger since the very beginning. Tracy has been around since almost the very beginning. We had a number of people who had seen pretty much all of the project proposals from day one. So so we knew what to expect. I think the Bezu team is probably a better group of people to talk to about this because they didn't have that sort of community knowledge and they didn't know what to expect. And again, one of the goals of this is to try to formalize that community knowledge about what you should expect when proposing a project for incubation. So Grace had been calling into the meetings for a couple of months ahead of time to kind of get it a feel for how the discussion went. So but some things just wouldn't be expected. I think some of it was unique to the nature of bringing Bezu in. There were a lot of people that called in that don't call in regularly. And yeah, so I think it's, it is pretty unique to each new one coming in, you know, because bringing in another DLT was a big deal. Bringing in a six to one. So that was, of course, you know, that gets extra scrutiny as we've made clear will happen on this entry considerations before. So that would line up with our experience there that, you know, if we bring in another DLT, I don't know if anyone was looking to come in, but it would be particularly hard for them to come in right now. I think most of the scrutiny done on us was because we were at DLT competing with the other five DLTs. What if there was a role formal or informal for members of the TSC to work with projects that were that wanted to come in and say, not to necessarily smooth things over, but hard. Yeah, so this is kind of like the Apache champion role, right? I think I alluded to this in one of the comments here, that it might make sense to have someone or give sort of, sort of if you're coming in fresh, right? Maybe you start in labs, you know, this is like a community, I think I put the, maybe I, yeah, I put this in the, should we have a community section, right? So a project comes in from labs, you know, maybe they've just been working as a lab, they're not as involved in the general community than they want to propose for incubation, right?   So, so I think something like this is totally reasonable and Apache already has a formalization of this role. Mark, so is that really an expanded role for the sponsors of a project coming in? It would seem so, yes. Well, so, I mean, Rai was talking about TSC members and I, you know, sponsors are not limited to TSC members. I don't know, and I don't know that we want to mandate that, you know, proposals need to have support of a TSC member to get started. Yeah, that wasn't what I meant. And now that I see Hart's comment that is more along the lines of what I had in mind of a, you know, not necessarily a sponsor, but a pathfinder. Yeah. One of my concerns with the pathfinder is I've seen the TSC reactions to these being highly unpredictable to these other proposals that come in. So it's possible the pathfinder could unintentionally give bad advice because it's hard to predict what the rest of the committee is going to rule on a particular subject, even when the committee's ruled the same way on it previously. Every situation comes in has been in a different context. So, I mean, we can do that, but we need to make sure that people are wary that it's just one person's opinion that may not necessarily reflect what the group will do. And it's kind of random, to be honest, some of the stuff I've seen. Well, I think it's unpredictable, doesn't mean it's random, right? Good point. It's not. I hope it's not. So, I mean, Dano, I totally agree with you. But I would say this is more of a, like, floor than a ceiling. It's not a, you know, you're totally good to go. It's more like, well, here are the obvious flaws in your current proposal, right? But I think Firefly had that because they were in talks with people ahead of time. And that didn't go the way they expected it. That's true. But so, I think this falls in the category of things we could recommend, right?   I think in the past, Brian has helped projects, you know, most projects that have been brought up by Brian, or he had some involvement in getting them on board. In the case of Firefly, he contacted me and said, hey, here's these people who are interested in bringing a project, maybe you should talk to them. I had a call before and with them and tried to explain the process to them and that kind of stuff. They said it was helpful. And I was careful not to set the expectation as to the outcome because I really didn't know. I thought the project was interesting, but I was very careful along to say, look, at the end of the day, there's a vote and I can't tell you what it's going to be. But so I think it could be useful in this document. But again, it's not a consideration from the TSE. It's more like recommendations to the applicants, to the proposer to say, these are the kind of things you might consider doing, like sharing the hip, the proposal beforehand with socialize the hip, right? Get early feedback. And as part of this, you know, unroll the help of somebody like a TSE member or somebody who is knowledgeable about the community who can help you, you know, maybe get a better find your way more easily. So I think we have to be careful not to, you know, give people, make it sound like this is the perfect recipe for success, but more things that they might consider doing that, you know, to just get a better experience, independent of what the outcome will be. Because I mean, there is a lot of, for those of us who've been involved in hyperledger for a while, we have a lot of shared knowledge about how all these things function. You know, I found that through this experience talking to the Firefly people early on that they really didn't know, right?  But they didn't really know how the whole process goes. And just sharing with them, you know, I think was helpful to at least, you know, get them, again, not to know what the outcome would be, but at least know how we would get to an outcome and what it would mean. So I think we need to did the document to make that section, move things around a bit, try to reward things so that it's more like, you know, it's clear what is considerations for the proposer and considerations for the TSE in reviewing the proposal. But otherwise, there were other things that I think were kind of left open in their comments from H.O.P. that were not answered. We just touched on the community. I'm not sure what the outcome is. Do we want to say more than do we actually want a community section per se? Based on the discussion, we just had H.O.P. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I don't know whether we want to have a community section, but we want to sort of, we want to somewhere encourage like socialization and basically say that, you know, look, the more your people are involved in hyperledger, the higher your chance of acceptance is going to be, right? So maybe what should be part of the consideration by the TSE is, what has been done to socialize it? Well, yeah, but I'm just saying like even without the sort of, you know, regardless of this is whether, regardless of this is like the right thing to do or not, generally speaking, projects that have sort of more hyperledger, more people known to hyperledger, working on them are more likely to be accepted than those that are not, that don't, right? This is, you know, maybe this isn't right, but this is just how it works today, I guess. And so this is sort of, you know, in a what to expect, right? You know, like if you're looking at sort of previous projects, right, you know, you can sort of compare yourself and see how this might affect your own route to incubation. And if you don't know anyone, maybe it's a good suggestion that you should meet some people. So again, like one of the things that I really want this document to be is something that people looking to apply for incubation can look at and see, you know, do I have a chance or not? And it doesn't, this doesn't mean it has to have, you know, hard and fast rules. It doesn't have to have requirements. It can have like soft things saying like, you know, projects that do X have historically done better than those that have done Y. But I would just like to incorporate this knowledge somewhere so people can find it without having to learn it firsthand. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think so. I think we have to, I mean, I would prefer that we turn those things, those, those observations based on the story, right? But just like you said, into actionable items. So if we, if the story is that, yeah, projects that do X do better, I think we should say, we should have a recommendation on the set. You should consider doing X because projects that have done that have historically been fair better. But it's, it's a formatting issue. I agree with the idea. And thanks, Arun, I saw you started using the document. So that's good. So there's the section on documents. And I was wondering, I mean, is it worth separating this from the code base? Because so this doc, this section says basically that, you know, all documents should be and in fact, it talks about the source code as well. And documentation should be made available, which I think we all agree. I'm just not sure there is much value in separating the code and the documentation from that point of view. Arun, can you tell us maybe why you thought of touching it in the different section? Sure. So when we talk about code, the other aspects do come into picture, such as the license part, the DCO part and whatnot, the committee's tripart. And documents may be lying in elsewhere. They could be in different formats lying at different places. Otherwise, it's, it's fine. We can, I mean, if that is not a concern, we can group them together. I mean, typically even for documentations, we request, we require DCOs, right? Oh, okay. So what I meant by documents over here is more for the review process itself. So that when a new project is proposed to hyperlegion, make sure at least your documents are in public so that we find anybody interested can review it. Maybe it makes sense that we move this to recommendations, as we say. So wait, the only documents we're talking about is the hip, right? That's the official document, right, as a proposal. I think what I hear Arun saying is like beyond document, beyond documentation, right? So your, your hip is not going to include design discussions, right? Those design discussions probably happened elsewhere. Bobby? It's also nice that when projects move out, that there's learning documents for people to review when they're interested in learning about the document, not in the GitHub repository, but maybe on, you know, link to the My Docs section that all the projects have. Okay. I mean, at the same time, you know, I'm a bit worried we're reaching to five, we say, hey, any discussions, any design documentation or discussion you might have had in the past should be brought to light to be able to bring this. And that could be a way to draw the line. I mean, you know, if you think of like, you know, I'll take the example of fabric, it started in IBM Research, they did a whole bunch of discussion and internal design discussions that I guess we never published. I wouldn't even have access to this myself. And, you know, at some point we said, okay, we're going to open source this and we put it out there. And then eventually we contributed this to Hyperledger. And there were documentation that came along, but not everything that had ever been done before.  I edited the document, I remote make existing part of it. And I just left behind make relevant documentation and design discussions available in public. And I moved that section into recommendation section instead of having a separate document section. Bobby, is your up again? Or is it still up? Sorry, still up. It's all right. We've all done it. But so hold on, because now this has turned into a recommendation but Hart was saying this is a big one. So we shouldn't even consider proposal with these things are not yet public. We can't have that just as a recommendation if it's such an important requirement. Okay, Daniel is first. Oh, it's thumbs up. Hart, go ahead. I mean, I guess there's some discussion over what these are. I mean, I should, I guess I think I wasn't assuming that we were talking about as deep documentation as you were. But I should still clearly have enough documentation where I can understand the project, right? Yes. So I don't know like where we want to draw the line on documentation or what's required, but we can say something. Well, my on this is we just want to say something like we understand what it is that you're contributing. You know, it really feels like an incubation task to me to get to where we have, you know, how to become a contributor documentation and, you know, how to get involved in the various components. When a project gets out of labs, it often doesn't have all of those things yet, because it's only been built by kind of the core group that we're trying to figure out the idea. Yeah. So for me, the bare minimum is I at least want to see the code run. Design documents are great, not required. But if they're not even going to share the code publicly, I don't even want to vote on it. It might be a little extreme on that opinion, but that's how I feel about it. No, but I think I agree with that too. And we have that above in the code base section, right? Where it says the code has to be available. Yeah, code base we have code should exist as open source software in some form. So you would at least have access to the code. I'm happy to have a maybe what we need to have is, you know, sufficient documentation should be provided so that people can understand what this is about. You know, it may be a bit vague, but that could be a must, you know, they must provide enough documentation for people to make sense of the proposal. I think that's reasonable.  You could imagine they could have and then what, what is this about? I don't know. At the same time, the hip already has some, you know, section that intend to capture at least at a high level, right? What this project is about, what is the solution, meaning, you know, what's the high level design of the approach? Arun, go ahead. Right. So just connecting this back with the recent proposal from Firefly, there were documents spread around across multiple locations. It was not just the hip document, but there were also few documents floated around on Google Docs, some of them on through PowerPoint slides. And there were references from hip to those other places. And I remember in one of the call, we even called out asking them to open it up so that everybody can have access to it. Yes, that's a good point. And maybe we should provide for, you know, pointers at least to the documentation, the relevant documentation, so that you have some kind of consolidated entry point. So you don't have to go fishing for relevant docs. I actually just see that we are out of time, that hours somehow went by quickly. So I guess we're not done yet. But this document, I really encourage people to try to do a bit more offline. You know, it's okay if we keep doing it that way, but we probably would be a bit more effective if we did a bit more work between the calls. Speaking of which, I won't be able to attend the call next week. Tracy will be chairing the call. So with that said, I'll close the call on this. Thank you all for joining and talk to you, well, personally in two weeks, but for the rest of you next week.


So when you first landed in Canada, did you have to worry about housing or did you find housing like before you even arrived in Canada? So like for me, I chose to go the safest way. The safest way is just to get housing to the uni. So that way they handled everything. So you just pay and that was my plan like and that's a lot of people's plan as well.  So university is a safe space, a safe space to start from, you know what I mean? And then as you get more confident, you can start exploring wider and wider. So like my first two years, I chose to be in university then my third year I moved down. So when you're university, you don't worry about those kind of things. They handle everything. You know what I mean? There's a system in place. But when you decide to move off campus or stay, you know, in non-university residents then you got to worry about those kind of things when like housing.


But I can't burn this book at school property! Nonsense! Apple sugar. You just need to get into the mood. Books are not where it's at. Teaching you how to spell cat. I know you'd rather play. So why don't you throw on your books away?


It's a great luxury and privilege to be able to take things like textiles for granted. But when we take them too much for granted, we tend to forget about the effort and knowledge that's embedded in them. The fabric of civilization, how textiles made the world, is a new book by former Reason Editor-in-Chief Virginia Postrell. It's an endlessly fascinating rich history of the remarkable luck, invention, and innovation that made possible the fabric-rich world we inhabit. The book aims to make the mundane nothing short of miraculous. Consider cotton. The fact that we have cotton at all, that it exists anywhere, is amazing. Most of the cotton we grow today is descended in part from a plant species that evolved in Africa and which somehow got over to what is now Peru, where it mixed with new-world strains, though nobody knows how. It happened long before there were human beings, but much more recently than when the continents were together. So we don't know. It could have gotten caught up in a hurricane. It could have floated on a piece of pumice. So it's this very unlikely happening that had tremendous world-changing consequences. The story of textiles is rife with attempts at protectionism and prohibition. In 17th and 18th century Europe, countries banned the importation of super soft, super colorful cotton prints from India, known as calicoes, because they threatened domestic producers of everything from lower quality cotton fabric to luxury silks. Everybody went crazy for them. Everybody from ladies and gentlemen to serving girls who maybe would have a kerchief. There was something at every price point, as we would say today. That was a huge threat to the existing textile industries, and there was a call for protectionism. Different countries adopted different policies. The most extreme example was in France. For 73 years, France treated calico the way the US treats cocaine. It wasn't just imported Indian prints. It was any prints, even if they were made in France, on French cloth, by French companies. Illegal. Calicoes also came in luxury versions, and people did wear them at court even when they were illegal. There was this huge amount of smuggling, and they were constantly ratcheting up the penalties. They got quite grotesque, at least for the major traffickers. Some of the earliest writings of classical liberalism are in this context. There are people saying, not only is this not working, but it is unjust to be sensing people to the galleys in order to protect silk makers' profits. And eventually, it was replaced with a giant tax on imports, but it was definitely better. But there was massive smuggling around the tax, too. Pastrel also documents how the Luddites, those 19th century English textile workers famous for smashing the power looms threatening to put them out of work, actually owed their jobs to an earlier technological breakthrough, spinning machines that emerged in the late 1700s.  Once you had the Industrial Revolution, suddenly you had lots of thread, and it was a golden heyday for weavers. They were well paid, and they had plenty of work, and then boom, their power looms. If you go back to that earlier period when spinning machines were introduced, the same thing happened. Lots of people depended on spinning for their livelihood, and they had their own period of rebelling against the new technologies and saying they're putting people out of work, families are going hungry. The book also upends some contemporary myths, such as the claim that commercial production of hemp for clothing was a casualty of the war on drugs. Hemp disappeared as a fabric long before marijuana prohibition. Hemp historically was a very coarse fabric for poor people who didn't have an alternative, and it was replaced by cotton for good reasons, because cotton was also affordable, but it was soft and washable and just a much better fabric. Pastryl says one thread that runs through her work from her 1998 book, The Future and its Enemies, is how complicated and over-determined the world is. There is no scratch. You don't start from scratch, and I think too many libertarians and radicals of all sorts want to make the world be like a clean sheet of paper so that they can start with their perfect system, where in fact human beings live in history and we inherit the legacies, positive and negative of that history.


David Shearer? I guess it would be along the same. A New New Zealand. New start for New Zealand. A lot of newness going on. I think there is room to look again at some GST issues and possibly the way we did the tax reductions. That's my personal view. We're not going to develop as a nation any more on the basis entirely of primary produce or tourism. We're going to develop because we're thinkers.