I thought we'd talk about the relentless now. This is a topic that's really interesting or interests me a lot. Like a lot of people, I've read Present Shock by Douglas Shrushkoff, if you haven't read it, check it out. But he has these five tenets that really define living in the digital age. But the whole concept is we're living in this Present Shock. I just got done watching a special on digital amnesia. And one of the terms they used was the relentless now. And then I've been doing a lot of reading on the Long Now Foundation's website. So for me, talking to other people and exploring how they see time, so how do you see time, and then why do you feel busy? And when you feel bored, what are the circumstances around it? And just really time in general. So how are we all experiencing time? In a lot of ways, I'll just open it up with, I think time is collapsed like a star. And we're living in a relentless now. So we'll just open it up to anyone who wants to talk about their experience with time or any of those topics. I think that time is, personally, it's fleeting. There's never enough of it. But you probably heard the quote, God gave the same amount of time to Galileo and Da Vinci and Einstein. Look at all they accomplished. But I always have something to do. Or somebody has something for me to do that needs to be done like yesterday. And I can't break myself of that cycle. It's hard. Maybe I'm doing it right. Nice. I always feel like there has to be something productive being done, or else my time is being wasted here. That's kind of what I'm feeling. You said you had some things that you helped yourself to kind of break up that type of. Yeah, I've got a lot of little time digital habits. We'll talk about it if you want. But can anyone else share their experience with time or how they feel about time? I mean, I think this is like right up there with death, like this topic. I try not to think about either. But I think one thing I've been thinking about is that we experience time differently depending on what activity we're involved in. And I think that's always been true. But the amount of diversity between the different activities that we're doing, I think, is probably far greater than any other time in human history. I mean, the gap between gardening and reading a book may not have been that large. But the difference between gardening, reading a book, driving, and playing a real time strategy game is just so vast that I don't know that I really have a consistent experience of time. I think it just varies wildly. And one day, I might have a totally different time profile from another day. So you don't have to answer. But if I can ask how old you are, or if you don't mind telling me when you're. Yeah, so I'm 25. 25. OK. I guess when we introduce ourselves, if you could just say how old you are, so I can get a concept of where time's coming from. So at 25, you're saying throughout the day you have wildly different perspective. So at 20, did you feel that way five years ago? I think so. OK. Has it been that way your whole life? I think it's gotten more like that over time. I think there's also just different. For instance, when I'm wasting time, if I'm just screwing around on the internet, that time feels different. Because I'm every so often checking it with myself and being like, you shouldn't be doing this. Go do something else. And then I somehow continue to waste time. And so there's a meta time narrative about how much time I'm spending. Whereas if I'm in a zone reading. Everyone I've talked to who talks about time, when they say they're wasting time, they say the internet. But yet so much of what we do is on the internet. So what activity is on the internet that's wasting time? For me, I just read articles. OK, so that's wasting time reading. Yeah, I learn things. No judgment. I'm just a terrible waste. I'm just thinking about how I look at my time. I guess for me, it's learning about topics I already know a lot about. We're a very high percentage of what I'm reading. Reinforcing? Confirming what I already know. So confirmation bias. Active confirmation bias is wasting time. Yes. That's actually a highly evolved way of looking at it. Thanks. That's like really enlightened. Perhaps it's on CNN. It's like, why do we care about Britney Spears personal life? That type of stuff. I don't read those articles per se, but articles I wouldn't normally read if I'm a person before.  It's different for every person. If you're enjoying something, obviously time goes faster. If you're not enjoying something, obviously it goes slower. But I'm a small business owner and I work on the internet. So there's always work to be done. That's why I'm always in the relentless now. Because if I'm enjoying something like reading a book, I feel like I can't read a book now because there's work that could be done that I don't have to do tomorrow if I did it tonight. And that's the loop I'm stuck in. One question for you. You said you're 34. Have you always had this relationship with time? Or do you think it's getting worse? It's only been here. So my event horizon for this paradox that I'm seeing is about eight years max. So I'd say it's about smartphone time. I started seeing time collapse. Yeah, OK. Any time? Wait, what did you mean by eight year something? Eight year event horizon. So for me, time started collapsing about eight years ago. So literally about the same time I started really getting into smartphones. I'm not sure why. If I look at anything before 2007, 2006, time seemed pretty much consistent. There were some times in my life that seemed definitely busier. There were some times in my life that definitely seemed slower. But I do feel in 2014 and probably definitely in 2015, I am suffering from a relentless now where there is always something to be done, built, or constructed. And I never felt that way before. There's always something new to be read, learned, or consumed. There's always something new to be created, manifested, changed, augmented, participated with. There's this relentlessness to my time. I don't know how else to say it. So for me, personally, I've had to construct a lot of, I'd say, airbags for time. So when I hit a time wall, I have a safety. OK, I'm not going to just literally hit 88 miles per hour and just bend myself. Because we were talking before the group officially started. There's been twice in the past three years where I ended up in the hospital because I was exhausted. And it's because I was just working, working, working, working. And then the very first time it happened, I didn't know what had happened. I just knew I was freaking out. And I think my body was shaking. And my doctor at that time, my physician, told me, well, you're exhausted. And I said, yeah, I've been working. But I'm on vacation. I should be able to relax. I don't know how I ended up in the hospital. He said, your body actually is an instrument. And it actually needs energy to slow down. And if you expend the last bit of that, you won't.  People die of exhaustion all the time. But that state where mild forms of this where you lay in bed at night ruminating, that's kind of the first sign that you're kind of living in this relentless now. So for me, really, this is about a safe group where I can talk about the things I do or the things we do. And just for me, literally, when I leave here, I have to do things that involve slowing down. Sometimes I'll literally take big steps when I'm walking. I'll move my phone alone. I'll move my hand real slow. So I've got lots of little things I do. But we can talk about my little antidotes later. But I was just wondering, I've talked to lots of people. Everybody seems to know what I'm talking about. But no one really wants to have a discussion. So I thought maybe cyborg camp would be the place to have the temporal, busy discussion. So this is interesting to me, because I have less of this than almost anyone I know. And the way of the constant now. And I also have a baby new business. So I'm starting to experience some of what you're talking about. And the way I've been managing it for the last few years is my phones are either on and I'm hyper-connected.  But when my brain needs a break, it can stay turned off for three days. And that's not great. So the thing I'm struggling with is more soft transition. So it's not everything's on or everything's off. And also the internet, the light skimming of confirmation bias. I have books this big that I actually want to get into. But as long as I'm skimming the articles, I'm not reading the stuff that's hard. And I would like to figure out how to do more of that. Was very little judgment about value, just self-hacking. OK. I like what you said earlier. Earlier, as she mentioned, what's your name? Jane. I'm sorry? Jane? Oh, Jay. Jay was talking earlier about airplane mode. And it's so comforting to put my phone in airplane. I think I'm in airplane mode right now. My fault. Yeah. So turn it off, put it in airplane mode. I hate turning it off because the time to wait for it to come back on actually seems about longer than like a whole day to watch the Apple light up and then sit at the screen. And then you have to wait then for the internet connection. It hurts so much. The airplane mode's much faster. But I don't know if you guys fly a lot, but flying is really amazing for me because airplane mode is really cool. And it's interesting that Apple, I was thinking about this the other day, how Apple's even messing with time. In 2012, all MacBooks got something called PowerNap so that when your Apple was sleeping, it would still update. And if you start to look at what Apple's just doing with how they mess with time. I mean, even their watch, they said, was a fitness tracker, an intimate way to communicate, and a precision time piece. So there's very weird things that are starting to happen with time and how we buy and sell and commoditize time. I don't know. So you would consider the Apple Watch to be some symptom of collapsing time because it does three things. I'm sure it is. So that's one definition of collapsed time is that now we're doing multiple things at once whereas before we had time between the things. Yeah, I think a buffer between things really helps you at least narrative.  But now you're looking at the time and you can also see your heartbeat. So you're doing some help. Well, yeah. So you're correlating two pieces of information, right? And then you've got text and email. So there's more pieces of information. More and more and more. What's really interesting about the Apple Watch is if you look at it, you've got stand, sit, and then move. And then it's tied to time, whereas all your other fitness trackers are just how much move. It's not move over time, sit over time. But when they announced the iPhone, he said, I have three things I'm announcing today. A new browser, a touchscreen, iPod, and a phone. A new browser, iPhone, when they announced the watch, he said, I have three things I'm announcing today. A fitness tracker, an intimate way to communicate, and a precision timepiece. So the browser became an application platform. The telephone became anything but. And the touchscreen iPod became a complete digitization of everything we turned into a subscription economy. So a life lead, fitness, time, and intimate way to communicate is going to change everything. But that's not time collapse. That's how they're exploiting time collapse. So I think maybe the difference is not even whether or not you wear it. It's intentionality. It's whether or not you retrieve your email or if your email gets pushed to you. Because I think that the place where the time collapses is when your phone or whatever device you're using dictates when you get your update. Well, to me, the motto watch, I mean, I hate to turn this into they have a watch conversation. What was so amazing was the fact you draw to send something to someone, the fact you can tap to send something. I can tap to you. You can feel it. Or I can actually send you my heartbeat. So I can send you something I manifest. I can send you something that I actually force to happen. So something I do myself, something I force to happen. Or I can send you something biological. And they're all tracked over time on your side. Because you can go back and browse our interactions, our haptic interactions over time. So it's as if you were to make Facebook physical. And I think that's really profound. And then you tie that into just behavior, activity tracking, edgy. Edgy, I think a lot of people are giving it credit for. But they waited for a reason. I mean, do you have any feelings about time? So I would have been much, I had a really good nine months and wrote a book. So before that, I was a journalist doing the five posts a week or more kind of thing. And so the difficulty was an inability to distinguish between wasting time on the internet and doing my job. So they're the same thing. And it's still, there's some degree to that in terms of I still have trouble. And I don't actually think of knowing the difference between when I'm wasting time. Because often, then like six months later, that thing turns out to be the thing that solves a problem. So there's that. But having to write a book forced a lot of clarity in terms of and breaking habits. Because in order to write a book, I needed to not do other things. And so I am not as deeply experienced. And it has to do with a lot of turning off all the notifications, finding tools, software hacks that allow. Basically, offloading that brain thing that I'm on the internet, but I know I should be doing something else problem. So that's like there's this cognitive load of like, should I be doing what I'm doing right now? And so finding ways to take that decision away and to have made that decision and then just live with it for a chunk of time. Kindness or a certain amount of discipline. A sort of firm kindness. Yeah, can help a lot. But that was nine months you did this. Yeah, so in order to finish the book. So I was like, what a privilege to be able to take on a fellowship where I was in the states with a visa that made it illegal for me to earn money. So there was nothing for me to do but attend things and write my book. There's a pretty radical way of making a break with a previous set of habits. I don't necessarily recommend it to anybody, but it was good. It was good for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm just starting. Good, I have, I mean, two days ago I took my Twitter app off my home screen just to break the habit of reaching for the same spot on the screen. Like it's still on my, I didn't even delete it. It's on my iPad still. It's just on a second screen. Eventually I'm sure I'll develop a habit of swipe tap and then I'll have to move it again to hide whatever. But yeah, I'm doing less things and saying no to more things because it was really nice to have a book. And I would like to do more projects that take a longer amount of time, which means I have to not do a lot of other projects that I might do. And that has helped push off the relentless by just being more honest with other people about what I can commit to. I'll try and keep it super quick. But I have so many responses. So one thing is, as you mentioned, for people in creative class jobs where the unpredictability is so high, it is very hard to know when what you're doing is productive or not because the causation is never clear. Also, I think it's really important to talk about the role of capitalism. We've run out of ways to expand geographically. The only place really to expand the economy is into people's time and attention. And so I think it's not just our lack of self-discipline. It's being actively pushed on us. And then the last thing I wanted to say is just I think you really hit on it with the need now for self-discipline to foreclose options, to give your router to someone else for the weekend so that you can't use it. And I read a really great article talking about in countries where it used to be that the lights would just go out at 8 p.m. because there was not enough electricity and then you just couldn't do things. And there's, you know, like you said, you as a business owner or me and whatever weird stuff I'm up to, like I can do literally anything at any time. And so there is no, it's only- There is no time if you can do anything at any time. Yeah. It was weird, I was talking to a friend the other day if you want to tie corporatism, that's the word I like to use, with time. And she said the only way she knows it's fall is when she can get pumpkin spice at Starbucks. And she actually now identifies the seasons through what Starbucks sells her and not the weather. There is an article about how the existence of pumpkin spice is a proof of Baudrillard's hyper real, some advanced social theory that I still don't understand, but pumpkin spice is not made out of pumpkin and is not even pretending to represent something real. It is just an entirely figmental thing. And then the last thing I wanted to say, and then I'll shut up, is you talked a little bit about the role of narrative in time. And I think it's the number of articles that I'm reading, I'm consuming dozens of narratives an hour. And if I jump into a Twitter stream that I'm on some narrative in Hong Kong time, and so I think the whiplash, I mean I don't even know if I experienced narratives in a time-based way anymore. Did you watch, that's interesting, did you watch Lost? The first two seasons. But do you ever notice Lost had like four or five timelines simultaneously? And then at the end of the show, they literally mixed time. The last. I read about that several times. But it was really weird because I've been noticing our media is a lot like this. I was talking to someone earlier about it. Like everyone went crazy last year with Game of Thrones was killing off people. But I don't think that was because they were killing, I think that was because people didn't expect time to stop. They just couldn't imagine a character being killed. Why would you do that? Because time doesn't, because you always have the real housewives of Atlanta. You'll always have an American idol. Things don't stop in media. And I think things that are really attention-grabbing and media now stop. So there's this weird to your creative class, great book. If you're talking about the book or just the concept of the creative class, how we're mixing or remixing time. I've watched, and something else if you're really interested in time collapse. There's entire YouTube series where kids have taken entire television shows or entire movies and just re-edited them to be one character's point of view. So you can watch all of Star Wars as Luke. You can watch all of Jurassic Park as the doctor. You can watch all of any TV shows, any one of the characters. Just on YouTube, just look for them. Look for episodic. I can't read the term they use, but just look for shows and then say Luke's point of view. There's so much point of view. And you can watch entire genres that way. And I think that's so interesting that young people or I don't know who's doing this are taking shows and pulling them apart in time and just giving them to one person. So it's that one person's time, not all of our time. It just, I was like, wow, okay. And then I work with someone the other day who said his seven-year-old son when they moved the coffee table out said daddy, but all the memories are in there. And he said, what are you talking? Cause I've talked to my coworker about this a lot and he thinks about time collapse. And he said, what do you mean by that? And he goes, well, everything we've ever done is in the coffee table. And his kid could actually see physical time in objects. So he started asking him what time was in the fork, what time was in newer objects. And as a child, I didn't see time in things, but as a child being raised by people who lived in time collapse, that's all the child could see. So I mean, like if we know young, I always say I want access to children, but then it sounds like Michael Jackson. But if you have access to children, ask them about how they see time in things or ask them about time. It's so interesting. It kind of reminds me of something you said. Like kids, they think differently and kids are always in the now. I mean, when I was a kid, I'd skip dinner to go play outside. But you had mentioned that time is like death in a way. And it really is. It's really the death is the end of time for any one individual, right? And time collapsing basically is death. Well, I mean, if I'm in the room right now because there's things to do or things that could be done, what about the people that are not necessarily afraid of dying, but they're trying to cram in as many possible experiences in their life before they do die? You know, that's another reason why people can be in the relentless now. So yeah, I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, there are all sorts of ways of this is being expressed. FOMO is one. Another one is YOLO. Another one is Too Long Don't Read. There are a million ways I'm seeing time, fear of missing out FOMO, sorry. It's weird because I'm seeing it expressed in business in all sorts of ways. I see, in case you missed it, that hashtag. I'm seeing a lot of ways that people are re-expressing time or missing time for people, but they're not calling it that. I remember that one slide I had where I had that one Instagram picture with all those like me in the segue and then the speed and then the photo and then the map. Yeah, it was really good because I wanted to see how much I called it atomic weight of a single photo, but I wanted to see how much atomic time and weight I could bring to a single photo. And it was crazy because it was one of the most popular photos I ever put on Instagram. And it was, I think it was only because I put so much in it and people couldn't flick by it. It was heavier. It was so heavy they had to go slow through it.  Maybe, I don't know. Or make it engaging enough. That is something to think about. The other thing I think that's interesting about time collapse, where I'm seeing it expresses in social networks. So the onslaught of throwback Thursday and flashback Friday is I think a direct relationship to the fact that we need to see time again because we don't see it ever. So the fact we throw, we show posts, we show pictures of ourselves at different points of time during certain times of the week to remind ourselves, A, it's that day, it's Thursday. And then B, it's been X number of years. I don't know how much more clear it needs to be that time has collapsed. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. And it's actually slowing. I don't think it's actually speeding up. I think it's slowing down to almost nothing. I think we're about to hit dead time. And I don't know what's gonna happen when we just hit that zero mark. Does everything just stop? Or does everything become so fast that you can't see it? Thoughts about media or social media or other time trends you're seeing? By the way, it's hard to unsee these once I tell them to you. You'll leave here and see time everywhere. I guess I haven't thought about it as much as you have, but I'll say that the one regrettable thing I have with time is that I can't remember what I did last week or two weeks ago or even this past week. Oh, sorry. No, no, I mean, it's just really sad because I think that's just some, I mean, you saw my presentation. Do you remember what you did? I have to think if I wanted to about what I ate for dinner. Yeah, yesterday is pretty easy. I had the problem before technology. Yeah, I wonder if there was this problem before technology, before all of this happened. I don't know on a mass level. I mean, it's not like we pay attention to our meals. So do you miss your memories? I guess I just find it regrettable that I have nothing to show for the last month. It's funny, because in my presentation, I said you go to yourself to be able to search yourself. Yeah, yeah, so you... I just wasn't sure, because you were the first person I ever met and thank you again for the second social braveness today where you actually, you know, I regret the fact I can't remember these things because I don't know, to me, I just... Living this... Yeah, for five years. This onslaught of information with notifications and dings and dongs and on. My phone has four different sounds for all these things. I think our brains are overloaded with the advent of smart technology and we're almost bombarded to a point where we almost... Everyone forgets. And the thing where I get really worried about the next five years is as we move into the internet of things, you know, I read this great article about what they call the personalization of things.  I think it really starts to be this kind of talk about time collapse, right? If everything is just constantly responding to you in a personalized way, not organic things, then, you know, what... Why are we afraid of Oculus Rift when we're living in it, right? I mean, we really don't need to be afraid of it. It's already happened. Just Oculus Rift might be our only way back here. So I'm gonna add a little bit to this kind of worms. I'm sure we can't go very far into it, but I'm wondering how much of the time collapse is driven by social comparison, where people get their sense of importance for them, and just what is considered to be enough or sufficient? Those are really good points. Yeah, I often say that the privilege don't suffer from time collapse. They just, the more privileged I know people are, the less they seem to be suffering from the relentless now. Do you know about Bruce Sterling's infamous, unrecorded South by Southwest? Okay, so every time Sterling gives a talk, it gets recorded, but in 2000, I'm gonna say 12, but that could be wrong. He didn't let him record it. And so all we have are these sort of rumors from people who were there of what happened. And it was about disconnection. And the provocative thing he said was poor people love their cell phones. And the idea that cell phones, and the idea that he was arguing what you just said, which is that as you become wealthy, you disconnect, right? To have, we have told ourselves about the internet that a wealth of connections, right? This is the future, is a wealth of connections, new ways, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that true, so if that happens, then, well, connection is like a sign of needing to hustle, right? Of needing to find friends to get help, to get a job, to blah, blah, blah. Whereas if you are wealthy, you can go into the garden and have a walk, and you don't need to worry that you won't be able to cover your bills, right? And so you like that, and it's a reversal of the story that has traditionally been told about what wealthy internet is bringing into our lives. It's funny because reporters always ask me, like, you know, don't you ever want to take a digital detox vacation? Because there's vacations now where you can go to islands and boats and things. And I said, if you can afford to take a digital detox vacation, you don't have too much information, you have too much money. Uh, seriously, because they're a sterling's point, I never knew about this talk, but really I think disconnection is the ultimate privilege. Well, the thing is, I think you're absolutely right, but I want to go a little further with that because it's an illusion. People think they don't need those supports, and then they come out on the other side where they have money and they've disconnected, and then they're disconnected. And then you get to the point where you're scrambling to rebuild community out of nothing. I mean, you've hit so many important points today about what's important, and where do you find importance in your own life? Oh, well, I think we have to wrap up. Thank you, everybody, for being brave and talking about time. Thanks, Erin, Pereki, for managing everything. Be kind to time.


I'm at Epcot because they sell green beer here, and I am wearing my festive hat today. Little bit of shamrock's on there, but I brought a couple extra just in case people weren't in the spirit. So let's go do this. Got some live music, gonna meet up with some friends, and head on over to the Rosenkraum to get our green flavored beer. Well it's not green flavored, it's just artificial color, and I think they add it to any of the beers, so I'm excited, doesn't taste different, but it definitely puts you in a different spirit. I think you can get the green beer outside and inside. I am going to probably wait outside. Look at this line, holy moly. Of course this is a wonderful holiday for beer, but holy moly. I bet you this is the most crowded-est the Rosenkraum ever is. Oh boy, the cops are even here. They have the cops at the door. It's so busy in the Rosenkraum, they took the tables out here. There's usually tables here, now it's standing room only. So I'm gonna try to get up there. Wish me luck. Literally, I have a bag of special St. Patty day hats to hand out. Look at that. Hey, do you want a St. Patty today hat? Brand new. For you. Happy St. Patty's Day. Would you like anything else? 22.90 then, please. Here you go. There it is. Yes, I got a green bassail, a green bassail. All right, I finally accomplished the green beer challenge. Now I got to accomplish getting out of here. And I ran into my friends, the Magic Geekdom, look at that. Hey, you guys don't have any green on. I have a green magic band. Oh, you want a hat? I'll wear a hat. Oh, okay, he's gonna have a hat. And there you go. You're festive now. Festive. I'm kind of glad I went inside because the line got even longer out here. But I don't know, it seems a little bit less tactic out here. You guys want one? No. Take that. Oh, they're probably all stuck together. They're all stuck together, yeah. Thank you. There you go. You guys want a hat? Here, too? I want one. Thanks. You want one? Yeah. You guys want one? Yeah. Hat for you? Thank you. You want one? Sure. They're brand new. Hat for you? You're giving out hats. You guys want hats? Yeah. Sure. Here. Thank you. Oh, hat for you. You guys want a hat? No hat? All right. No hat. Oh, another hat over here. Take that for her. You want a hat? Hat for you? Yeah. Anybody else want a hat? I got three left. Right here. Hat for you? Thank you, son. Hat for you guys. Another hat. There we go. Happy birthday, Lair. Enjoy, guys. You're welcome. Thank you. Yep. Thank you. Yep. Hey, I got no hats left, but I got a home good bag if you'd like it. Nobody wants home good bag. Home good bag. All right. I'm sorry the camera was so shaky there.  But it was great because they were all very happy to get those hats. I don't know. I really did feel good doing it though. I did. I did. He was not interested in the green beer. That's pretty good. Pineapple beer. Look at these lonely french fries sitting at the fountain. Who does this? Those are expensive. That is crazy. They didn't even dip in those ketchup. I was there to eat one. I don't want to do it. I have boundaries. I'm not going to eat the french fries that are left out. I was going to eat them, Ron. You're going to take them on? Do you dare me? Yeah.  You're daring them yourself. Ron is daring me. Oh boy. Ron left, but I'm not going to eat them. I will do the right thing and dispose of them though, because you just can't leave french fries laying around. That's not right. And he can't feed the animals. No feeding the animals. So thank you. Hey, are these your fries? Do you want them? All right then. You're welcome. My favorite decoration for flower and garden is now up. Can you guys see them there? Look how nifty. Look at that. The little signs for flower and garden in the town. Oh, here comes the train. Monorail. Oh boy. Very nice. I love the way baby Simba looks, but there's something off. Mufasa. I don't know what it is. I mean, look at that. Look at that. Look at this. I mean, it's like that's professional. This is mid-grade. I just ran into Ed and Liz. They watched the videos. And thanks for stopping and saying hello. And guys, if you see me out and about in the park, don't be afraid to come up and say hi or anything like that.  Hello. But I did lose my friends. I don't know what happened to them. Good thing about giving Jeremy that hat is because he's so tall. All they have to do is look for the hat.  I can see him standing up. I'm walking through the African outpost and I felt the rain. And check this out. She's still wearing my hat. So I know that this has been just kind of all over. Nice outfit. Very fancy. Yeah. Very fancy. Very nifty. But they're headed out.  But got to say bye. Check out Magic Eat them. We got to see you today. Yeah. It's been a while. Because they have cool pins. I'll show you them. So now I'm waiting for another friend to come join us and our festivities around Epcot World Showcase for St. Patrick's Day. And I found a really cool spot that I thought that you needed reservations for. But apparently you don't. So I helped myself to a table. Look at this area right here. And no reservations. It's actually a good place for fireworks too. Huh. Interesting. And look at that. It's Jackie from Super and Thieves. Hi everybody. It's St. Patrick's Day. Cheers. Mysterious man. I'm wearing my green Magic Band. Oh. Yes I see that. That's only green. I wish I would have kept a hat for you. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm a little upset about the hat. This one is absolutely sweaty and I would never even offer it to you. That's okay. I've been wearing hats all day. Now my hair is... This is what happens after the braids come out. Oh yeah. I did freshen up a little bit. I stopped Italy to spritz some cologne. I do that sometimes too. Yeah. Norway. Yeah. They have like dirty stuff. Yeah. Totally. It's perfect. Yeah. But check out Jackie. Thank you. All right guys. So I know it was a little sporadic all over the place today. But it was St. Patrick's Day. I had fun hanging out with a bunch of different friends. And the weather was pretty nice. But now I have to go meet up with a special birthday boy. Brian. Because we're going to have a birthday dinner. And yeah. Spend a little quality time together and hang out. But before I go there is something I got to do. It's 6.15 pm. I'm heading out. So love the life you live. We'll see you next time. Oh. And also make sure you check out all the channels that sent me. And gave me all these pins today. This is all from today. These are all the people I was hanging out with. How cool is that? So we'll see you next time. Bye.


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And now let's get into the Q&A and go from there. And Will's got to, see, this was my thing. When I saw this, I was just like, Will, my man, I hope to God that's not like ledger got hacked because ledger has never been hacked. Okay, that's not true. Ledger the data, like your data, like your address and phone number, they had that got hacked at one point. I think about a year and a half ago, roughly. But that's okay, anything else gets hacked on web too, right?  Trust me, you have. But in that part, but all the cold storage, the Bitcoin, the crypto, everything that stored in your ledger has not been hacked. So I was like, man, I sure as heck hope it wasn't that. And it wasn't that. It just looks like, you know, that's what happens. And Rob's got a good point. It does seem suspicious. Somebody that's smart who's been around for such a long time is like, well, I lost it all, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's suspicious because you think yourself, well, he's just probably gonna claim that for tax purposes. You can't do that. It's only up to $3,000 per year, capital losses. Actually, that's not true. That is not true. It's $3,000 up to losses on capital gains, but there's a much higher amount, if not unlimited, on your income. So, but I still think that the way that if you, there's a difference between losing it all together and you can only claim so much, as opposed to wash trading or tax loss harvesting. I'm pretty sure there's difference. Hey, Rob, Jeffery Gonzalez for showing us too much of Ben's website charts. No, not from Ben, just that everybody was complaining because the people who, because Ben's websites, like, I mean, right now it's cheaper. One I showed it was pretty expensive. And people are like, hey, I pay good money for that. You're showing everything. I'm like, I didn't show everything. I showed like two charts, calm down. The world's not gonna end. So I just don't, I just show the basic stuff. And then I use all the rest of the stuff for my own personal gain and steal it from Ben's website and use the measurement. That's it. Question everything. Why do you keep mentioning S coins? Good grief. I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you're talking about. So if you're talking about anything like outside of Bitcoin, okay, everything is an S coin, I suppose. But of course, question everything probably has his stash of altcoins. You're like, no, no, no, you don't understand.  You know what it is?  But if they own it all of a sudden it is the most indispensable, utility driven, most fantastic product they've ever had in their entire life and it's going to the moon. That's what I've seen. But if I talk about something else, oh, it's just awful because it's an S coin. Of course it is. Yeah, it's true. We're excited that you guys and Ben are collaborating.  I like both those guys. When I first met Guy, I met Guy I went to his conference. We did a Q and A session, not a Q and A, just me going up there and talking with Guy as he interviewed me. It was fun.  When I was talking to Guy the first time, like this guy knows a boatload of stuff about crypto even more than I do because he's been investing longer than I have. So, and pretty entertaining guy. And Ben's Ben, Ben's great, you know, I think he's a little more bearish than me, but we'll work that out in the show. Do you believe in Solana? I believe it exists. Ah, like look, it's just, no, I mean, kidding aside, it's when I take a look at it, as far as like monetary wise, it's probably gonna do pretty well. But as far as like decentralization versus decentralization, it's not very decentralized. Can we just agree that to that? It's about as decentralized as say, Binance coin, that's not decentralized either. So it depends on what you're here for, right? If you're here for the tech, you're here to save the world and you're here for decentralization, then that's probably not your coin.  I don't know, I don't have a crystal ball. I don't have much of it anymore. So yeah, and that's it. What else? Ha ha ha, use what you want, need to leave those alone. Let the community side through popularity. If it's a real S coin, it'll die. Stop gatekeeping. Yeah, that's a good point. Look, it's a free market. I don't know what people are gonna use, you know? Like, as I get older, I think to myself, is that really music? And this is what old guys say. And of course, I am outvoted because the younger generation is like, yes, that is awesome. And I just can't get into it. Hey, did James from Invest Answers get booted from DCA? I got to answer this, I have to answer this question like 10 times a day. So I'll answer it here when there's more people here and they'll watch the replay. No, first of all, James came up with the idea with DCA. It's just that when you have certain tribes, like my tribe, which is not a very big, I mean, huge tribe compared to like Ben's tribe or well, I mean, James has got more subscribers than me, but when you get those three together, it was becoming very negative and as people would interact. So it wasn't us that was the majority of the issues. It was the people that were gonna gather because the whole point is to kind of help people see some positivity. And when people get together, it was just ugly. So we're just like, you know, maybe this isn't a good idea right now. And then that's it. So in a new year, we start another show.  It's just boring. The sports facility, I mean, we've got somebody else who runs it, the real estate, we've got real estate managers. So like I like to just start things up and then move along, which is surprising that I've been on this channel for so long, which I have to tell you between us, I think this will probably be my last run, my last bull run. I think after this next one, that's it. I just try to get everybody over that hump and then they can find somebody else to get in there. A lot of good people out there. I don't want to be everybody. No, James didn't come over, George came over with it, he even said so. Okay, let's see. Hey, I made it. I don't think so. Aristotle says, I hope everyone knows that the only thing that can hurt Bitcoin is all the other coins. Why would anyone want to hurt Bitcoin? People are bonkers, they think about it. This is an argument that's been made by a lot of people because they say, well, the amount of funds that are out there, which is 800 billion, if that would all flow into Bitcoin, then we could do a whole lot of other things. But I got to ask the question. The market cap is 330 billion. It was much higher when we were at 3 trillion. I want to say it was close to a trillion, maybe 800 billion somewhere around there. For all of that money that was flowing into Bitcoin, why didn't it do a lot of different things? Why didn't it really soak up that L1 smart contract tracking built on everything stuff? Like at that point, why didn't it hit that? I mean, it made strides. I mean, Lightning Network, I know with stacks, I mean smart contracts and things like that, but why didn't it keep going on? I think it really comes down to the free market. I could be wrong here, but I think it leave it up to the developers and the communities who want to build on what? And that's it. If they don't want to build on Bitcoin, they want to build on Bitcoin. They want to do something else. And maybe at some point they'll figure it out like, wow, this was the wrong platform to build on. We should have been building on Bitcoin from the get go. Only time will tell. But it's just interesting to me how that works out. I'll start doing shows with you and take over. Yeah, yeah. And George, George was the first. It was me, James and George. And George just got burnt out. George does three streams a day now. And George has like a car channel or something. And he's got kids and something like that.  So like, I don't know how he does it, but yeah, just too much. And that was it. Yeah, that was the reason. Yeah, grass is looking good.  It's just Puerto Rico, everything's green. It's great. It's hard to say that anything other than Bitcoin is decentralized. Ooh, this is a good question. Any guess on which quarter of the year will bring the shopping opportunities? I think they're here. And we did a deeper, quite dive, because the prerecorded video is on the left there. Zoom out on Bitcoin and crypto for the full picture. We went over a lot of different things about price action and reset years, which the reset years are always two years after the all-time high. So all-time high was in 2013 for the cycle. And in 2015 was the reset year. 2017 was an all-time high. So 2019 was the reset year. And then 2021 was the all-time high. So 2023 is supposedly the reset year. And we talked about, you know, where things are going and the macro environment and things, just watch the video. But I think, honestly, there's some pretty good deals. Do I think this is the bottom? No, but I'm never gonna be able to time the bottom ever. I'm just not that smart.  That's it. Yeah, so John says, hey, Rob, don't wanna rot the boat. We only do a deep dive on masterwork risks. I think it'd be very helpful. Look, masterworks is risky. Like it's risky, risky. But so are all other investments. It's just the truth. And then like, I know people were complaining like, wow, they're like 20% profit, that seems pretty high, but you understand. So like, here, I'll show you. So like, first of all, the risks are that the painting won't sell. And that's just true, but it's the same thing with crypto. The risks are, the price won't go up and people wanna adapt it and there'll be no utility and it'll just fail miserably. Which happened with, I hate to say this, but Dash. I know what people say, but it's building, okay. Dash and Salt, Luna, BitConnect, that was a scam. And a host of other cryptos that you can just say, you know, risky, they're all risky. They're risky as heck. And then with Masterworks, again, like the painting couldn't sell. And again, their job is to sell that painting. So like your vision for the painting itself might like, hey, I paid 5,000 for these fractionalized shares of this Banksy art piece, right? And you're gonna sell it too soon. I want you to hold out so I can quadruple my money. They're like, no, we don't think it's gonna happen. It's not in our best interest to holding this for, you know, 10 years. We're gonna sell it at some point because we feel like this is the opportune time for the market to sell it and they sell it. So they're not in your best interest. They're in everybody's best interest and actually more so for themselves. But I can understand it. It's the same thing with the hedge funds. Are hedge funds really working for you? They're really working for themselves. Newsflash for themselves. And then lastly, again, I will talk about, let me see here. Hey, baboon. So like the track record, and these aren't the only ones that they've sold, but they are the ones that are here that they have. Like I've got, let's see, they have a lot of stuff right there. Like here's some other ones. A condo, a Gilliam, a Brown, Olin. Yeah, they sold other ones like that. Those are the recent ones that I have, but it doesn't matter. So let's just say like there's, they're gonna charge you 20%, right? So the thing is you see this, you're like, what 10%? First of all, it's annualized, annualized net returns. And the annualized internal rate of return, net of all fees and costs, calculated from the closing day of the primary offering. So let's just say this. So 20%, so let's just say it's for a million. The painting, they bought it for a million, right? And then it increases by 20%. So let me use some quick math, 1.2 million. So it's $1,200,000, right? They sell it for 20% profits. Does that mean you get zero profits? Now that's not how it works. So for that, so for whatever your profits are, they're gonna take 20% of that. So let's just say that out of all that, you get, I don't know, 1,000 bucks, whatever you do, 5,000, 10,000. So your profits are 10,000, they're taking 20% of that. They're gonna take 2,000 bucks, they're gonna give you 8,000. If your profits are $10,000.  When I just do more on the crypto, you can, you can do it into traditional stocks. You can do it into gold and silver. You can do it into real estate, which is what I like to do personally. But again, I like to just diversify. And again, I don't do a bunch with masterworks. It's a very small amount. Here is my portfolio. I mean, it's mostly cash. Well, it's not, mostly it's real estate now. Cause that's what I primarily do. Masterworks is a little bit, the Gen for stablecoins, cash, Amazon business, 15% is staking, which I think is much lower now actually. 1% in the IRA and 5% in stocks. So I just diversify. So again, masterworks, fractionalized shares of art pieces, risky. Crypto, risky. Everything that you invest into, risky. So just understand what you're getting into. And that's, that's why, actually I, you know, like when I talked to them, it's pretty nice. Cause they just, I talked to them like 30 minutes, 45 minutes. And when they talked to me like, look, your goals aren't going to jive with what the last person was the last person before that. So we'll just figure out what's best for you. And that was it. Actually, I wanted to go in a little bit heavier. And they're like, no, you probably shouldn't because with the, it was the Banksy and the Basquiat. Basquiat, they said, yeah, I was okay. Banksy, they said, I was going a little bit too heavy because I was just getting in the name. They go, this one's not going to sell like super fast just so you know it. Again, two, three, five year olds. That's it. We would have a long answer. CryptoGolf or you are. I think people get more info in the bear market. They do, they do. You should see my comment section. It is a war zone sometimes. Speaking of which, this week, we're going to go do another Puerto Rico meetup. I will be buying the first round of shots. So whoever wants to stop by, it'll be at Smokehouse again. Stephen, hopefully that's okay. And then that's it. Actually, I buy the first round and they buy the second round. So it's pretty good. So we want to stop by. They'll be this week. Oh, I could use that. The market doesn't really get to me. It's just the other stuff in the personal life that gets me. Yeah, Teflon Tech's got a good point. We are in the anger stage of the market. It's okay. Look, I used to, it was pretty ticked off too around this time. Because around this time was, I mean, 2018 was the roughest year. And 2019, I think was just as rough because it was more boring.  Bitcoin's gonna zero. Peter Schiff was all over it. He was taught in 2019. Woo, boy, you can stop Peter Schiff. He was like, gold's gonna go to the moon. He don't understand next year is gonna be a depression. That's gonna be awful. It's funny because he says the same exact thing every fricking year. So here we are again. And it was tough. And I was pretty, I wasn't angry, I was just kind of like, just deflated. That was, because it was so boring going at, but then I was like, well, I'm just gonna do what I thought I just would continue to do which is dollar cost average. Watch that video from the day because we go over the dollar cost average scenarios for Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cardano, Dash, and Salt. It's pretty good. What? Brian Haprov beat me at sweat coin. I'm gonna have to start walking more. Yeah, Gary's got a good point. I'm in the IDGAF stage of the market. What are you gonna tell 25? And you guys gotta remember something. 2025 is when I think we could see a bull market but what if it's not? And we talked about this before. You have to mentally prepare yourself to where you're like, okay, I hope it comes to this point but I'm gonna prepare for the worst. And the worst could be something going out to 2026, 2027. Can you hang around that long? Probably not, not all of you. Some of you can, but it's okay. Even if you don't hang around and just like buy every day and watch these videos and keep up to date with the market, it's okay. If you gotta step away, step away. We're still be here and that's that. I mean, I did it. In 2018, I took a big break because I was pretty deflated and I think months. And then in 2019, I took a little break again and then came back. So even me, inflation is here to stay. Yeah, probably so. Oh yeah, Winklevoss versus Barry Cyber. Starting the year off, right? Yeah, it's funny how billionaires can get into a spat publicly. It's amazing. It's amazing the world that we live in. But it is interesting. I was talking to a friend here on Saturday right before volleyball on the beach and he's owns a couple of different companies, trader, hedge fund, something or other. And he was just talking about how the Winklevoss sued him. They sued him and his business partners. And it was just the interesting story about how those guys operate and the things that they do be on the scenes. And it was just, I was like, if it was true, it's pretty shady. It's just, trust me. Everybody in this industry, you can't trust anybody.  Trust nobody.  Teflon Tech, 10-year bear market. You know what? That's a great point. And I just saw some, I thought, it's pretty good. I'm gonna probably do an entire video on it. Let me bring this up. So the big thing, and I've been grappling with this myself. Me and Jordan Wears were talking about this about the 10-year bear cycle, stocks. And what it came down to was a Stanley Druckenmiller. And his narrative that just like in the late, in the mid-60s, he said that we're gonna see a timeframe of a 10-year stagnation. And what he's talking about is this. This is gonna make sense. This is like, pull it up. There we go. Well, let me show my screen. Probably help, huh? So what it comes down to is this 1965. In 1965, we topped out around 860. Actually, that's not true. 870, 1968, excuse me. 1968, we topped out. And now this is for the S&P 500. And historically, it took a very long time to get back to 870. How long? Good question. It came close in 87. 87, let me come back. 1968, 872. It's close here. And that's not it. 858, roughly 87 and dropped off the cliff. And really, if you wanna really be a stickler to 1992 to get back to its all-time high. Isn't that scary? Well, check this out. And we talked about this before. This also happened before in the Great Depression, right? 29, we topped out 519, 375. It took us how long to get back to 370? 1937 to 1954. And also it happened over here in 2000, all the way to 2014, somewhere around there. So that's pretty bleak, right? Wait a second, check this out. This is a great piece. US stock market yearly returns, 1928, 2022. What did we just talk about? Well, you can see a lot of red in those times that we said, the Great Depression, right? 29, all the way down, 1941, exactly. However, what was it? 1968, it was a good year. 1967 was a great year. 1968, 1969, negative. Well, look what happened in 1970. Positive, 1971, positive. 18.8, positive. 73, 74, yeah, it was down pretty big. But look at 75, up 37%. And you can see we've got a lot, a heck of a lot more green than we do in the red. What does that mean? Well, it means that there's opportunities everywhere. There's a small, many bull market, even in a bear market. So it doesn't matter if we don't hit to all-time highs. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to think that we can't get back to $3 trillion in a crypto market. When that is the future technology, I think it's gonna help a lot of things. And especially with what I've been hearing from different companies about tokenization of securities, I think that's gonna be so big coming up. So when I see this and it's like, and then I take a look here, let me take a look at the tokenization, I just see myself in like, it doesn't matter. I don't see a 10-year bear market per se as far as all-time highs. I see opportunity.  And you're not gonna have everybody being a genius all-time. Because it was easy to be a genius in these bull markets. And we got carried away. Even myself, who talked about Voyager? I did. I thought the VGX token would explode, although I did call it a 29 cents to $7. That's not the point. Point is it cratered and tanked and everything else. Sales is what I was good. That was wrong. Yeah, that's about it. And then of course, like I've had my shares of junk projects, that's true. These are the things that we learn from mistakes. We move forward. Now it's a bit, we're a little more careful. I see some of these products. I think there's some good runway out there. The problem is that everything is risky and people want assurances. I can't give you assurances. Just like that great question was about what's the risk of masterworks? It's risk everywhere. Where can you hide? Like even in real estate, even times I've lost my A on real estate, just bad deals and bad locations and things that just didn't rent out. Everything's risky. There is no guarantees and it just takes work. That's really what it comes down to. All right, I'll step off my soapbox. All right, let's see. This is not financial advice by Bitcoin. Yeah, I had a law firm marketing business. They do like to sue. They do like to sue, very nice. Do, do process. Do wheelies. Ponte schemes.  I watched the video. It was pretty good. I like CTO. He's got a good stuff. He's more of a trader. He's in that beautiful Larson line that he has. And yeah, I just don't like to do it. Give us your insider information. You'd be surprised at things I hear in Puerto Rico. This is like crypto, OG Alley. But just because you're an OG, here's another thing. And I wanna remember this. Just because someone got something right a long time ago when they invested in the Bitcoin, doesn't make them an oracle on everything crypto. It's just the truth. Like when I take a look at it and, you know, in 2012, I mean, I mean, Bitcoin in 2013 shot up to $1,000. What if he got into like 500 bucks, 300, 200 bucks? You know, you're like, well, I see the numbers go up and then it goes up and he learned about it. Like, okay, it makes sense. Yeah, does that mean that you're gonna know everything about everything about crypto and investing? No. And then some people will say, well, you should only buy Bitcoin. Look, even Peter McCormick, which we're just talking about, he was on his, what Bitcoin did podcast and he was with Lynn Alden. And he said, look, he goes, in all honesty, he goes, the store of value is pretty tough to assign to Bitcoin when you're dealing with specific shorter timeframes, especially people in third world countries. It's very tough for them if they make 200, 300 bucks a month and they put into Bitcoin and Bitcoin drops by 50%, that's not a good store of value. And he goes, I hate to say it, but, you know, stablecoins, even though they're built on, you know, as platforms do hold their value and he was right. So I just look at it with a grain of salt and just kind of a realist and try to get the best information I can. Okay, traders, traders are losing money. You know what you can count on one trader talking about? Traders are like gamblers. I mean, there's always gonna be that one gambler that's awesome, you know, but the majority are just degenerates. But like when I live in Vegas, friend will call him Pete. Pete, how'd everything go this weekend? Bro was awesome. I won $20,000 this weekend. I'm like, that's great, Pete. I mean, how did it go? It was good? Yeah. Are you up for the year or down? I'm down like a hundred thousand this year, but man, this weekend was sweet. 20,000, I'm like, yeah, that's the tough part. Faye is gonna be awesome, trust me. Well, yeah, I got two guys I can lean on. Oh, Vicki, this is an easy story. So the $500 for 500 Bitcoin, I think everybody knows this. Son came home from school. Hey, I got a friend who's gonna, this is in 2012. Hey, I got a friend who's selling 500 Bitcoin for $500 on a hard drive. You want to do it? He'll sell it to you and they go, great, what's a Bitcoin? And you know how you first try to explain what a Bitcoin is and it's kind of difficult? Well, that's what Alan was telling me. And I'm like, I don't get it. I go, that doesn't make any sense. It's never gonna work. It sounds ridiculous. And I don't see how internet nerd money is gonna make it in the world today.  So yeah, I could have had $500 for 500 Bitcoin, but here's the caveat. I would have sold those Bitcoins so fast as soon as they doubled in price by boom. And I would have said, I'm a genius. That's it. Yeah, where are we? Yeah, diesel came. Tokenizing everything will be a great thing, but then government CBDC will restrict you from them. I really think it depends on which government rolls it out. You got it in China, the digital you on. America was chomping at the bit. Every European country is. So it'd be interesting to see how it works, but I'm not gonna say it. All right.  Yeah, and do you fault Ray for that? That's his personal beliefs. We covered this video about a week ago or so. I got no problems with that. That's what you believe in. That's what you believe in. Regarding mail, maybe I put a disclaimer and pinned it in the comment section. I don't know it was a mistake. No. Let's see. Bob Lazar. UFOs? Oh, it's Robert Lazar. Well, this could be Bob Lazar. I was hacked, sure, dude, 200 Bitcoin, it looks like a whole lot. Well, I don't know, man. It doesn't make any sense.  With your thoughts on VeChain, I don't really get it. I know it's great for tracking, should be good. Just not my thing. Jose Flores, what are three things you look for looking into a new project? There's four things. I call it the cut, the CUTT. We talked about this a lot on our second channel, Dan Degen, which I must admit, a Dan Degen channel doesn't have many projects. We review very few. The last one was, I think it was Swagcoin, actually. But the cut, which stands for the community, how big is it and how thriving is it? Because community is what pushes things forward, I believe. The use for utility, what the heck does it do? Is another MeToo type of product? Or does it actually do something? Or say it's gonna do something? And does it actually do the thing that it said it's going to do? And we take a look at the team. What has the team done in the past? Again, past performance does not equal future success. However, it is a pretty good indicator. If you've got a team that has already done a couple of blockchain projects and they have good marketers and they are VC backed or if they're backed by some type of deep pockets to push them forward. Unfortunately, that's just how it has to happen sometimes. Or they have a massive community like Cardano to push things forward. The last one is tokenomics. Am I gonna get dumped on? Are they gonna dump on others? What's the unlock periods? Those type of things. So I always look for the C, U, T, T, and that's it. That's it. Let's stop with this, let's see. Rob, when do you expect the all kind of regulation to start working 2023? Yeah, probably. They should rule out some things pretty quickly. Look, thank you to Sam Bankman-Freedman. Freed, Sam Bankman-Freedman, SBF. Thank him for ushering in regulation whether you wanted them or not, they're coming. And they're gonna move them forward because you know why? Here's how it usually works. Politicians wanna stay in office, right? The constituents get hurt by something.  Hold on, the smart ones get it that it's an exchange. And then they start to roll out regulation and then they can tell their constituents, see, I saved you guys, vote for me. And that's when it comes down to it. So you're gonna see that roll out pretty good. Pretty fast. Energy web, sure, I don't know. Luke will be okay, it's a caution. Yeah, it's a caution. I mean, if it's true, if he left it on him, if he left his mnemonic phrase or private key on a server, who does that?  I don't know why nobody would do that. Like I'm not that smart, I know not to do that. So, you know, it makes a lot of sense. Just, and how hard is it to get a ledger? I think what it comes down to is people just are rooted in their own thought processes and mechanics of how they do things. That's just it. Jason says, hey, Rob Maddock is getting so many big companies investing, but price isn't moving near to all-time highs. We wait until 2025 to take profits. If the next bull run happens then, not financial advice, can't tell you what to do. It's just that me personally, it depends. Like me personally, I like to take profits along the way because then I have some dry powder and I can pick up when we have like these Black Swan events or something majorly bad happens or, you know, Jerome Powell comes out and goes, guess what, 10,000 basis points, or I'm just kidding, but you know what I mean. So on that, that's me. But a lot of people or some people are like, no, why would I do that? Why don't I take profits?  Me personally, you are not gonna do it.  I will just wait until it happens. And on that first dip, you're like, that's not gonna keep happening. It did go up 400%. Now it's down to 320%. I'm sure it'll keep going up to maybe 500. And then it goes even lower and lower and lower. And then you sell and you take profits how it is before. So like me personally, I just, I buy a dollar cost average. We did a video on that recently. I sell a little bit on the way because it greases the wheels that reminds me what I'm supposed to do at some point. For me, that's my goals. Your goals are not my goals. I don't know what you're doing. Is your goal to buy a house in Puerto Rico or is your goal to pay off your credit cards? Is your goal to leave things to your grandkids or is your goal to get a new, I don't know, Lambo, I have no idea. So again, everybody's goals are very different. DJ Boom, that's a pretty cool name. Are you replacing DC 11, their show? I am not replacing it. I am just, it's been asked to be on it called NFA, not financial advice with me and Guy from Coin Bureau and Ben from into the cryptoburse. That'll be fun times. Let's see. Jay Young Chow says I'm not gonna buy anything till Bitcoin is below 10,000 at least, not financial advice. You know what'll happen, Chow. You know what'll happen. I think I say Chow, but it might be Chow. Sorry, I think what'll happen is it'll maybe it'll get to like 10,200 and it'll just skyrocket back up. That's usually how it works with me. So Crypto McFly, I don't mean to sound like a recording but Monero solving all of this. It's one of those products I just never got into. But guess what? I'm gonna miss out on a lot more projects than I'm gonna get into. It's just how it goes. Ooh, interesting. Jay Young, tell me how to say your name in the comment section. Is it Chow or Chow? C-H-O-W or C-H-O-H-O-O? Camerajenamide's public holiday and they owe Genesis 1.6 billion and are trying to protect themselves in the case of bankruptcy rather than put customers free payment first. Six K Bitcoin. Okay, that would be crazy. Here's the question for everybody. If Bitcoin goes to $6,000, would you be buying? And before you say it, like, oh yeah, bro, I'd definitely do it. This is the same thing that I hear from people like New Year's Resolutions. You gonna get in shape this year? Oh, bro, you bet your bottom dollar I'm gonna get in shape. I'm going to the gym, I just signed up. I'll be there and then I get to the gym. I gotta tell you, first of all, I don't go to the gym. My gym is right there. But I remember when I used to go to the gym. January to February was the worst time of all times. All the rookies were there and they were doing the craziest stuff. And I'm like, well, good news, they won't be here much longer. And that's exactly what happened. Around March, April, they all thinned out, they stopped coming. So the question I have for everybody is, if you say it, do you mean it? Would you buy Bitcoin under 6,000? And that is on top of every news output outlet is talking negatively about it. And even me, I'll probably be saying, look, could go lower. Do you want to keep doing this? It's up to you. I'm like a sadist and like, if you want to keep coming, okay, but it's going to hurt. It's going to really hurt until the pain comes or until the pleasure comes and that could take a long time. You bet you're out of my way, but I also have a gym at home that I haven't been to in a while. Yeah, that's where all my clothes go. GT says, I buy 20 bucks in Bitcoin every day, no matter what the price. Me and GT are on the same page, actually. Mine's 40. And then when it starts going down, then I buy more, more and more percentage-wise. I think this peasant will buy. And this is another one. And Captain Hodel Baggins has a good point. It's one thing to buy at the bottom, but consider how long the bottom lingers. This is true. I would there buy on the way up when the sign of breakout is strong. You can do that. You can do that. And actually it's probably a safer way to do it. Just don't buy in the bull runs. And to see what I'm talking about, we just took a look at Bitcoin, Ethereum and Cardano and in today's video in the morning. So just take a look at it. When the breakout is strong, you can do it. I personally think that 2023 potentially could be a pretty good time to start accumulating a little bit more, more so. It really comes down to a couple of things. The macro, and we talked about this, like, you know, everybody says that Bitcoin's never been in a war. You know, I've never been through a war. I'm like, hasn't it?  That's what we can admit that. But were we not in Afghanistan for two decades? Didn't Bitcoin go up during that time? That was a war I thought, not for sure. So I'm just like, yeah. I mean, and Bitcoin never was in a pandemic and we went through that, okay? So, I don't know. We'll see. DCA for the next six months. Logan Beard. Bird. Bird. Cho. See, I've been saying it wrong the whole time. Cho Tegum was in for a minute. See, see, Jay, you're gonna be here for a while. I mean, most everybody else, I can understand. Like, not Joe Fresh, I can pronounce that perfectly. Perfectly. The William, 11.2? No problems, whatsoever. I can also pronounce this name. Mike, nailed it. But on some names, I have a problem. So, speaking of FTX, Pat's got a good point. Judging from the connection between FTX and Deep State, I believe that gross over regulation was the plan. Regulation was the plan. I don't know if he's gonna be the fall guy or whatever else, but talking to the same guy this weekend before volleyball on the beach and he's a pretty big trader and he was talking about, he was a big investor into Luna. And he knew Doquan, he knew the inner workings and he said, he goes, Doquan wanted to back everything with Luna, with physical products or with securities, with actual real world things. But it was shot down and then he had to use Bitcoin and he said, we told him it was not a good idea and he went ahead with it anyhow. And he said, he goes, in all honesty, he goes, everybody knew, I guess the people that were in it, they knew that FTX tanked Luna and they did it for personal gain and they collapsed everything and they also knew that they did it because they wanted to get ahead of course, right, whatever. But unfortunately it caused their own ruination with three arrows capital and three arrows capital and then with Celsius and then with Voyager and now we're doing all those other contagion stuff. So by FTX doing that, I personally believe and I think a lot of predictions would have come true if it wasn't for that. If they wouldn't have been so damn greedy and tried to be a zero sum game, we would have seen maybe an extended bull market. Maybe we would have seen a hundred K, I think we would have seen a hundred K Bitcoin. I think we would have seen a lot of things. I think it really did come down to what FTX was doing behind the scenes and more information is gonna come out. And when he was talking about them, like, well, yeah, that's true, but when he told me about Doquana things that were going on behind the scenes and like, that doesn't make sense actually. Have you looked into insane clown posse? That's kidding. Internet computer protocol. I've been looking into it has been showing great potential. Yeah, but I think it's ahead of its time and who knows how it'll do, but if you believe in it, this is another thing. Invest in things you understand, right? Like, I'm not really good with stocks. I invest in a little bit, but some big stuff like Amazon, I have an Amazon business. I invest in the Airbnb because that's what we do. But for some other things, I don't really understand a lot of projects. I don't really get into them. I don't talk about them, but if you understand ICP and what they're trying to do and the inner workings, then that's a pretty good guesstimation of some of you should invest into because you know a lot about it. That's, I think, the bigger things. And you can also pull the plug faster because you know what the hell's going on. So if you're like, hey, I saw some really good positivity with the community or with the team and it looks pretty good, tokenomics are fantastic, but then you hear some other information behind the scenes that you're like, hey, they switched up something on the tokenomics, they changed the burn rate or something, I don't know. And then you know it and you're really into it, then you can pull the plug and go, that's not a good deal. Used to be, now it's not. Yes, loved it. Which is, one of the few movies these days that actually is good. Have you been in the movie theater lately? I'm more ticked off about the crappy movies that are being played than the market, quite honestly. We went and saw this movie Babylon this weekend. Awful. Mike's a new member. Hey, Mike, I can say your name perfectly too. So that's perfect. I like people that I can do those things with. 10,000 Bitcoin start DCA, can't be wrong. I mean, sounds good to me. Yeah, Mike's got a good point. Speaking of macro, the Fed board is unanimous and more tightening. Markets have not gotten the message. They have gotten the message. They just choose to ignore it, Mike. There's all these geniuses out there who are like, okay, I gotta tell you, as entertaining as Max Kaiser is, he's still called it wrong. And there's been a couple of different interviews where he's like, the Fed's not gonna tighten. Are you kidding me? They'll never do it, because they always talk good game and they never do things. And they tighten.  He's not the only one though. A ton of other people are doing the same thing.   They're gonna pivot anytime soon. You watch, you watch, you watch, wrong. The bottom's in. I told you it's in, it's in, wrong. None of them are right. The only thing that's right, which one's down? The only thing that's right is for you to understand what you're investing into, do your due diligence and take some risks around the way for what you're gonna afford, which would lead me to, have you seen these rules I've talked about? It's all gone. Don't invest more, you can afford to lose. Everything's a scam. Don't leave any exchanges. Don't use leverage, take profits on the way. Very simple. That's all. That's a good point. I'm gonna steal that. The crypto market is a war of attrition. You're exactly right. That's also good. Great stuff. Have an exit strategy before you enter, no matter the volatility. If you don't sell under your purchase price, you won't suffer loss. Yes, exactly. Understand you make profit when you buy, not when you sell. You make profit when you buy, not when you sell. And that's why I believe it is best to invest during a bear market. That's for me. For some people, it doesn't work out. But I show you some data on that video today. I'm telling you. This video here, zoom out on Bitcoin, probably putting that in Dante's crypto. And that's it. For real. Yeah, I'm gonna try to pronounce that name. I think you're just trolling me now. Let's see. I just put an order for a Bitcoin at 10,000. Waiting for a blockbuster to make a comeback. Me and you both. All those are the days. Give VHS tapes or go rent your favorite Nintendo game. Yeah. Yeah, and arts got another good point. $1.7 trillion spending bill. Unbelievable. We're gonna begin so much debt. Feel sorry for my grandkids.  Max predicted silver at $200 by now. Yes, there was some alarms going on in the background. Who knows? Maybe it's for me. Smash the likes. I forget to say that. Thank you. Nacho Fresh has asked this 10 times, so I'll just answer it. So Algorand. So, the first of all, the mooch was on the show a long time ago and he talked about how him and his group to due diligence, they put in $250 million in his investment. The person, I was gonna, Michelli, the person that's in charge or in the front seat, CEO, what do you wanna call it for Algorand was one of the originals for cryptography, Michelli. He was on Lex Friedman, good hour long podcast and pretty interesting. So I can see how, and they built a pretty good team over there and we'll see how it goes. I haven't invested much into it. Pretty much going by that. And that's as much as I can get into it. Okay. Thanks for doing this. Well, yeah, you guys are helping me. I'm just trying to keep my mind off things. Russian, I would guess so. Rusty Bodis here. What'd I miss? What do you think about the idea of Bitcoin suddenly being just so mathematically sound with what it does? Other things may just be not worth investing in by comparison. That's Saylor's argument. You know, he's pretty much rooted into that. Again, it depends on what you wanna do. If you're all here for decentralization to save everybody and root and run, I guess so. But in all honesty, I mean, the light now works for me along. I mean, once that really rolls out, we have mass adoption. We can see it. And before someone says, but Rob, you don't understand, there is mass adoption for lightning. Really ask anybody on the street right now, go out to them and say, have you heard of the Lightning Network? I don't know what you're talking about. Have you heard of Bitcoin? I've heard of it. I know it's going down. That's about it. And have you used the Lightning Network? First of all, I don't know what that is. So that's what you're gonna hear on the streets as far as like mass adoption, depending where you're at, of course. So as far as like, it's the only thing to invest into, it may be. Again, a lot of people smarter than me. I just hedged my bet and diversified. And that's it. And then of course people will say, but why wouldn't you concentrate your wealth? Concentration of wealth is what gets you rich. I'm like, yeah, well, look at all the people who invested into Luna, who thought that was the next big thing. And look at all the people who invested in different, I mean, every other type of stock that's out there. So I thought that was the big thing. You know who you don't hear from? The losers. You don't hear from the losers. The losers who invested a ton into something and concentrated their wealth and got wiped out, you don't hear from them. They don't wanna talk about it. But the ones that did great are the ones that are gonna talk your ear off and be on MSNBC and write books. And they would be like, oh, that's how it is. I personally don't think it is. Me personally, but everybody can do what they wanna do. Bob did a good question. Rob, do you have a strategy once the Fed pause their pivots, dynamic DCA? Yeah, because you know what's gonna happen when they pivot. It's gonna go down even more. Because once the Fed pivots, it's when they realize, man, we broke something. I mean, it could be. They might be forward thinking and be like, we're gonna do it earlier, but it's still gonna go down. Usually, I mean, historically, that's what it is. So for me, it's not so much about pivoting. It's just about right now it's about price. And I talked about this in video about a week ago. So right now the base for me is around 15K, right? I'm spending 40 bucks a day buying Bitcoin. It doesn't seem like too much, right? It adds up, adds up for sure. And then once it goes to 14, then I increased by 10%. So now I'm spending roughly 45, 44 if you wanna be a stickler, then if it goes to 13, I add another set of 10%, maybe 20%, 30%. And I go from there. And that's it. I just kind of keep going until I can't go no more. But the big principle is this, is the number one principle. The first rule, I don't invest more, I can afford to lose. If everything goes to zero tomorrow, do you know why I don't get too ticked off and like some people say like, you should take a shot of espresso before you do video. That's how I always am.  I don't get down about other things, not perfect, but it's because it was easy enough because I have things to fall back on. And I think when people don't fall back on it, and then it's a big hassle on the problem. So that's why I diversify. Cause then I don't have to feel that crunch or that tightness in my throat. Like, oh my God, it is lost. My portfolio is down 95%. What do I do? Well, when you have other things, income, it doesn't really, you're not like dying.  But you know, over time, it seems to work out okay. And just kind of keep telling yourself that, that's it. Max is go for broke. Go for broke. That's a good one. That's Gals's, that's what Gals says. Bitcoin is kind of naturally makes you into max after a while. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong. I don't have a problem with Max's. I just feel like, like when they're telling people like they should only invest in the Bitcoin, I kind of feel like they're kind of giving financial advice. I don't know. Of course, here I am blabbering about diversification. So that's kind of financial advice if you think about it. Although the only thing I'm gonna assume me for someone says, Rob told me to diversify. I'm gonna soothe the pants off them. Realistically, I think Bitcoin is $1 million. Yeah, you know how it'll happen. Regulation comes in. We determine what is a commodity, what is a currency and what is a security. They adopt that globally. And then all of a sudden, things start being used maybe on top of Bitcoin, maybe a central bank starts to buy it. Oh, and maybe, maybe more sovereign wealth funds invest into it. Maybe it becomes more of a currency for different countries. You see that, it can go to a million. It'll take some time though, but it can. No, no. Not because I don't like Michael Saylor. It's because we know what Michael Saylor is gonna talk about. There's nothing I can ask that guy that he hasn't said a thousand times. Ugh. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Bob, when you have guests and you show you to pay them for their appearances, no, period.  I have this other arm and this other mic. I've done a couple of live interviews here. I did two. That was it. I like to do some more in-person interviews right here. Have people come to the house, do an interview. I think it'd be great. You know it'd be great. I know like Mike Maloney lives here. If anyone knows him, reach out to him. Who is it? Kevin Cage lives here. He'd be good. Max Mayer lives here. He'd be good. Crypto Crow. I think he still lives here. I'm not for sure. Mark Moss used to live here, but he moved back to Austin, whatever. And then people who live here, that'd be great. That'd be great. Do you really think we'll have over 3,000 different cryptos in a few years? No. No. Here's what's gonna happen, I think. Tell me where I'm wrong here. So, Gensler gets his way. Everything's a security. They cleanse a commodity. Worst case scenario, right?  Now you all gotta pay. Most of you, not all of everybody, has to pay a fine for having an unregistered ICU or unregistered security offering, which is an ICU. You have to pay that fine. Not a big deal, slap in the wrist. Now you have to register with the SEC. Now all the exchanges have to register with the SEC. That's not a big deal. That's on them. But the projects that do that, and they have to keep everything up and they have to, you know, legal, legal-wise and paperwork-wise, and it becomes labor-intensive and it becomes monetarily intensive for each project. They start to collapse. They start to collapse. The bigger projects. There's my dog, Chloe. My other dog, Chloe. Chewie's didn't make it, unfortunately. And then from there on, you have them just start to collapse and then the projects, the upper, the projects that have made it and have a huge community, have great utility, have a fantastic team and great decent tokenomics, those are absorbing up the smaller projects. And it's the same thing that Facebook did. Do you really think Facebook couldn't have created another Instagram? No, they could have done it, but they wanted to buy them up. They think they couldn't have done WhatsApp? Of course they could have, but they did make it easier, faster, better. And like, let's just buy these people and all their developers and all their infrastructure and just make it a day.  That's what could happen. And I think once it happens, things collapse, the Me Too movement goes away, the Me Too projects are gone and then they get rolled up into these bigger projects and you have Seymour monopolies. Then of course the United States government will like, okay, now we're gonna have to do antitrust laws, but that's a long ways away. That's what I think could happen and that's it. All right, that was a good one. Play pay for people, new. I should be charging them, just kidding. Oh, guess what? I'm gonna have Chad from Riot Blockchain on. I think he's their main, what is he like, the CMO? Not a CMO, he's one of their main guys over at Riot Blockchain. So I just sent him a text just to talk about the state of the Bitcoin mining operation because when the CEO was talking to MSNBC, they said that their break-even point for Bitcoin production was like 8,900 or 8,700 or 8,900 dollars, 8,900 dollars. So I wanna get Chad on to see what they're doing. They just had a massive amount of ASIC miners just shipped to their Texas facility. So I just wanna see how things are going. So I'll let you know when that happens. This is true, but do they pay you? No. I should charge them, but what was the point of that? Looking forward to Thursdays. Yeah, me too, should be good. What's today? Huh, Jesus Monday. Why don't you guys just do this? Whoever you wanna see sitting here and me interviewing them, just reach out to them on Twitter or their show and say you should go on digital asset news.  So yeah, he lived in like Rincon, he was a big surfer, Mark Moss lived in the rural area of Puerto Rico, everything was a hassle to get to. I've been to Rincon, I wouldn't live there. First of all, I'm not a surfer. And second of all, it's kind of out there. It's like a sleepy surfer town. I mean, you like to drink and surf as the best place in the world, I guess. But it's not me. And he had kids and things, so Chloe. Yeah, Chloe is almost 15, 15 years old. Yeah, see, ETH will not be a security or is it? So like, even though America does what America does, doesn't mean that every other country would do the same thing. Unfortunately, you know, as far as like the financial markets, a lot of different places tend to follow what America does. Because there's so much money here. I think that's what it is. And they're just like, oh, I almost deal with it. Unless you're Russia or China, see how that's going. But yeah, it doesn't have to be a security everywhere. Like XRP, XRP to me is not a security. Bitcoin logo does not require licensing. EasyNavali shirts, that's true. Yeah, we're gonna be in, because like we live in Puerto Rico, but we have to go back to Texas family and business. We'll be back there on April. So we've got January, we only got three months left here. And then we're there for a while. Now, yeah, the one with Chad's gonna be a video interview. Hilarious. First of all, so Peter Schiff is not, like Peter Schiff says bad is Michael Saylor. If you wanna like get the talking points, it's the same thing.  And I'm gonna tell him about, there's a lot of good reasons and use cases for Bitcoin and how it compares to gold. And we're gonna go back and forth and then that's it. Ugh, exhausting. Convince me on Puerto Rico, what convinced you?  And I like the low taxes.  So I can play that here a year round. And the big reason was when we were on vacation, my wife loved it. So that's it for that. Robbie, you noticed an increase in poverty tax for Airbnb? No, actually I haven't. Even like our sports facility in El Paso, for some reason the taxes went down. I don't know what the heck happened, but I'll take it. So not yet, but I have seen that. It's amazing how like we talk about the housing market crash. It doesn't hold water here in Puerto Rico. I mean, they're still, and if you want to like places like Austin or Los Angeles or New York, doesn't apply there whatsoever. There's nothing's crashing. Everything's brought up for the same. You can get some deals here and there, but I don't see it where I'm living. Of course, I'm just living in some strange places. Let's be honest. I'm like those places, I just talk about like 5% of everything. Yeah. So Penny says, how do you think a significant real estate in 2093 might impact cryptos? Sounds like it could be a real possibility this year. I don't know. So we'll see what happens. Holy smokes. My guy's here. Look, we've got an hour and 16 minutes. I'd love to chat with you guys all night long, but I gotta get out of here. So thanks so much for stopping by. I appreciate it. If you liked today's video, and it was long, give it a thumbs up because you're subscribing to all good stuff and I'll see you guys on the next one. Let me go talk to my guy here. Adios, everybody.


We're really pleased so far with the way pre-season's gone. I think this is probably the most fit group we've had return. Our returning group really did a great job over the summer. They've all improved their technical ability. I think they're more fit than they've been. We had freshmen come in and break our fitness test records and for freshmen and everybody's been strong and, you know, there's a lot of talent and we're just trying to take those pieces and find the best way to fit them all together. So Samantha Wilson has done a great job. She's a senior this year and she's really kind of found her stride and has been leading the way a senior should and is fit and has been playing really, really well. And then we have a leadership group of Cassidy Butler and Michelle Mosquita and Taylor Ryder. I think they've been setting the tone and holding people accountable and we've worked hard to raise the bar. I think coming out of COVID the last couple of years and we've raised it quite a bit and I think that this group has done a great job kind of rising to that bar which has allowed us as coaches to focus in on some smaller details that, you know, maybe we haven't been able to focus on in the past. So we're really looking at the small details to clean those up and get us to where we want to go. So I think prior to conference play, we're going to hit some competitive teams that have done well in their own conferences. You know, we're looking at Elizabeth Town as a good game and Washington College which did, you know, they're starting to put their stamp on things in the centennial a little bit. So I think we'll have some good challenges prior to getting to conference play. Catholic University is another one that I think is going to be a good test for us and similar to a lot of teams that will face in conference. And even in conference play midweek we'll face Salisbury University which, you know, we know is also going to be a good competition. So certainly a challenging out of conference schedule as well as, you know, our in-conference schedule. You know, our goal is always the postseason. You know, make the Mac conference playoffs. Obviously we want to be in that Mac championship. We want to be in the NCAAs. We want to have a postseason. So for our seniors, you know, we want to extend our season as long as we can. So NCAAs, ECACs, which means having an above 500, you know, out of season and in conference record. So, you know, for us we're looking to improve game by game. We're going to be a young team. We really are going to have a lot of our freshmen playing. So I think for us it's going to be making sure that we're learning from our mistakes and capitalizing on the things that, you know, we're doing well and just continue to get better game by game. I think staying healthy is always a priority. That's something we've run into in the past. So, you know, we want to stay healthy.  Making sure that this group is a united group fighting for each other on the field. And so far they've just been a pleasure to work with. I think our coaching staff has had a blast this preseason. And they're a great group and they're a blue collar, hardworking group. They've been bringing a ton of energy.