How's your mother-in-law doing? Is this your mother-in-law? She hasn't accepted Jesus, but she was held from the counselor. Yeah, that's amazing. Okay Cheryl both sons return to the Lord Anybody return to the Lord? They're getting closer. They're getting closer and we're in progress. How about your sister or sister's salvation? my sister Lois all of a sudden like she's Talking with me and everything. I think the Lord's gonna do a work there Wow. Yeah, and that right now she believes that there's all different universes and each universe has their own God Well I don't know. I only know about earth Are we on? Okay, welcome back to sets of freedom. We're doing testimony tonight The very first night that we gathered and I'll just say this for the youtubers and To the first night we gathered we wrote down on these cards prayer requests and As you can see many of them are crossed off because they've been answered and That we're just spending some time right now going through there's some more We're going through some of these to find out which ones have actually been answered completely or are in progress. So You didn't put your names down so I don't know what who below which prayer requests belong to who you put your initials that was helpful but I Don't know so there's a few people that are not here Haven't been they're not here tonight. So I don't know what their story is but We have some significant healings one Healing for a sister Dealing with the spirit of fear That was marked off.  Oppression. How you feeling? Are we crossing it off? We're crossing it off. Great And Then is your daughter Janie Janine. Okay communication more often. How's that going anything improved? It's more often Okay, well, that's what it says more often so we're gonna cross out not saved yet It says her salvation Okay, your husband In progress he's probably in progress. He's in progress. All right Your sister Sue's immune system, how's that going? That was going really well until probably like maybe a month ago now The things that she's going through right now Let's just get an IG IV every other month to flush her system out It's not helping her muscles Okay, is she a Christian yet? Oh, she is okay Maybe you can talk with sister and you about being health and the immune system Well, my sister with the fear she's she's going through that too with the immune system And yeah, I've been sending them to YouTube stuff on mics. Oh good. That's excellent. Okay I'll talk with one of my sisters about that. Oh Super she probably come down and try to get them both down here next month. Great. I look forward to meeting him. Okay Somebody has a daughter Emma.  Oh, okay. And so how old is she? She's 19. Okay, so it's a tough one. Yeah Mm-hmm. Okay. How's your ankle doing? It's starting. I think it's starting. You feel it. Yeah healing Yes, all right good and anything else here it says your Body regulating hormones not not happening yet. Okay All right. Well, we'll keep praying for that Okay, who's this to overcome fear or of the workplace? Okay, how you doing with the fear? Can we cross it off? I mean overcome it's a product. It's been processed, huh? By faith go to school for evangelism. Did you get a word? Did you get an answer on that yet?  Okay, someone has needed to pass a math test Is that you you haven't passed it yet? Did you take it? Did you take it? studying but not oh, we shouldn't be on there. Okay. How about how's your knee doing? It's feeling better. Okay, I saw Nicholas. What about the school? What's going on there?  Okay He's Not only is he open to it. He's saying hey that person needs deliverance open the door. Let's kick that thing out That's pretty amazing That's amazing Is there anyone you know there's something on this card that you're like I need we need to mark that off I I know it for sure. Is there anything that you can think of? Okay Well, there's quite a few I'm just gonna count. I'm like one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen this one's almost done 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 25 25 26 27 28 29 29 We're answered 29 29 Well, I guess I could it's not done my my little trailer projects not done But Those of you who are at the baptism heard a great testimony about how would the Lord in one day? Sent me three people to offer me free labor Yeah, cuz I was feeling really discouraged So it's not done and now I have a handyman he said if you give me all the materials I have it done in two weeks So that's great that was one of mine on the list All right, so what we're gonna do is if you're willing we're gonna put a couple chairs up here I'm gonna have Stephanie kind of zoom in the camera a little bit. I will just sit and talk about what Has this class done for you? I don't know if you ever saw the testimonies from the last class, but people were really encouraged by those and And you know it says they overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of his testimony and Our testimony is his testimony It's what he does through us Apart from him we can do nothing But with him All things are possible And we really have seen some miraculous things happen in a short amount of time in this class So I'm just gonna we'll just we'll cut that she'll fix it and we're gonna move a couple of chairs up here I'm Steph. Can you zoom that in a little bit? So are you gonna be like the interviewer? I'm gonna I'll be the interviewer. Yeah Yeah, we'll just see you know, I mean, I don't know we did this last time and it worked out kind of nice How's that?  So Come on So I want you to think about You know the whole span of time so thanks Renee So what has the Lord done in your life since you started the class I had some deliverance That was awesome. And our dear sister Julie was the And she's doing She instigated instigated the deliverance That was awesome. Basically first of all just being around all you wonderful beautiful women and Just seeing God move in the midst of the class.  Really didn't understand about deliverance. I could see people's lives changing and that was just truly amazing and For me, I just learned a lot about deliverance, you know from our lessons and things that we talked about for me was um, it was very Knowledgeable for me. I mean I know some things about deliverance, but I think it was the specific Things like how our dear sister here how she knows about was it I say immune systems You know things like that like different categories and how the enemy has come in in these particular areas But the amazing thing is our last class where we were told taught how self-deliverance We can do that now next week is my plan for doing it. I was really busy this week And so I've been waiting I'm getting in my bed I'm gonna start talking in my mind and tell the enemy where to go Me my reason for coming here is because I really want my testimony to be that Satan has nothing in me And so I know that a little bit more of him got out and then because I am involved in a deliverance type ministry as well It's you know, I'm not I'm always trying to be alert to the forces of darkness coming against me I had a headache today Man of God called and he said how you know I said oh I have a headache just pray guess that devil off He said I saw it running and the headache was gone And you know, so it's like when we have that awareness that we do have an enemy Then it it's it's amazing. I mean you can truly live your life in more of a victorious way You can live your life in power and authority and for me.  She's amazing I don't know how if she thinks she's as amazing as she is But she really is and I just love her. I love you guys and it's really truly been a blessing being here Thank you. Amen All right So, yeah, who thinks they can talk that no kidding. Thanks, Renee I Just kidding just kidding So I just want to ask you you got some major deliverance, I would say Did anything change in your life? Anything at all? Yeah, I think so I had I've always had like this heaviness in my chest was like something Which is stuck there Yeah And becoming more aware of as you'd like to say the symptoms, right? Yeah, so good. That's good. That's really good.  Yes, they did Yeah, cuz I didn't think I was gonna be able to go and you were like, I'll get back to you And she's like, I'm gonna find out I can get your ride and you did yeah, you even look better That first from the first night to right now.  Yeah, I would say Just really being aware of it like that night that I broke down you were talking about, you know bitterness and and Holding stuff like I thought that I had fully Forgiven my parents and myself and everything but it's like layers, you know It's like the Lord let you rest a little bit. Then he wants to go deeper.  I don't I don't really know to tell you the truth I'm hoping that they're in heaven, but You know just really come into the realization The ways that we open the door for the enemy to get in and then when you gave your testimony about getting off your Inter-depressant We just happened to be on the same one and it was just like something clicked, you know And I had tried before and I mean I've been on it since Probably 28 years. I've been on and off Not on and off on but different types of antidepressants and then recently an article came out and Was talking about how it had nothing to do with serotonin deficiency And it's just all made up and I really think that it's like a tool of the enemy So I was on like 300 milligrams and at that time I really thought I was getting Alzheimer's because I couldn't even think straight, right? And I went online and I noticed that people that were younger like in their 20s and 30s were Making the same claims So I weaned myself from 300 down to 150 and I've been on that for about five years now. I'd say and then I Just knew the Lord let me know. This is your time. Yeah, so I I had some 75 milligrams So I've been on those today's like day eight had not had any symptoms or feeling like that's great I don't have as much dry mouth. That's going away My brain is clearing up the fog is going Like before I'd be on the phone with my girlfriend, I'd be like I got it What is the world I couldn't even think straight, right? And so I really feel like that's like the biggest miracle I'm coming out of this darkness into the light into the glorious light that I know that God is setting me free from all that fear that the enemy would tell me you're never going to get free whatever, right? and Just really come into the realization that I have Dunamis power that lives inside me the same power that was Jesus from the dead. I have inside me Yeah, and I have the keys to the kingdom. Yeah, and I'm using it And I just feel like so much better and I feel like the real me is coming out that other one is gone You know as I Just feel so blessed. I really do and I'm so thankful that I came and you're awesome You really are and I agree. You don't know how awesome you are. She's really awesome And you got baptized and I and then I got rebaptized this past weekend, which was just so glorious I felt like I was just like I'm just like I feel like I'm born again. Yeah, I'm just totally new and It's just incredible. I mean I can't say enough good things about it and I'm just excited what the Lord's gonna do and Ready to keep following him. Yeah Yes, no going back. I drew that line and I am not going back.  He never has any bad thoughts about me That's all that stuff is from the enemy and I put him under my feet where he belongs Thank you Wow, wow, that was great All right Who's next? Come on. Come on Yeah, Marianne come up here, let me ask you some questions future hardcore Christianity deliverance minister here May I speak prophetically? Wow, so I think I met you earlier this year. Yes. Yeah, and I'll I'll let you share for the the recording that for the youtubers the big one But I would like to share a couple one and specifically where I remember I started praying for you one night during the mass deliverance and You were telling me about church and How you didn't feel like you fit in And you wanted to leave and sure upset sad very sad. Maybe tears even you know, just I don't belong And so I asked her I said have you Were you were you born out of wedlock and you said? Yes, I said well, that's why you're not fitting in in church. Let's fix that right now And I prayed and we broke that curse of the bastard curse talked about in Deuteronomy Or born out of wedlock curse. It's a real curse That curse carries the ten generations So I think a lot of people Have that curse going on in their life They never quite fit in They jump from church to church You try to get in there you try to start something you try to connect but you never can move forward That's what that curse does And I saw you the next week and tell us what happened nice and loud, please I Went to church and The two sisters that I always say hi. Good morning They wouldn't they would never speak to me. That was before we pray before okay The next Sunday when I went to Service those were the first two that came to me They were just very joyful very happy. Hi sis. How are you? What can I do? Can I help you? I just felt so like I felt accepted. Yeah. Yeah, that was a blessing big blessing Yes, so you've had a lot of blessings in the time that we've been doing this class. Yes The biggest one is Being healed from Breast cancer being healed of breast cancer. She says it's so humbly When were you? When were you first diagnosed with breast cancer? August last year. Okay. I started all my testing. Okay, and were you in what kind of treatment were you under?  I wasn't treated. Oh, we're not treated yet. Okay, and then What happened you just started praying or did we do deliverance or what I started going in March Okay, I'm Thursdays and Fridays. That's right. I've gotten a lot of deliverance. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I met with you twice So on a one-on-one. Yeah, and it's helped me a lot. I've got a lot of deliverance here Yes, and at what point did you get a clear report of no more cancer? Um, I Think it was See August 5th, I had my surgery It was like three or four weeks after I got the report that I was cancer-free Wow, that's great. It's super so Medical issues are costly And that's one of the ways God blesses us is with good health Took two years ago. We'll say three years ago. I was not healthy and You do your taxes, right? And I had spent with copays using copays I had spent five thousand dollars and medical bills and medication and within one year I had My teeth clean twice No more medication. No more doctor's visits. No more problems And so in one year's time the Lord advanced me five thousand dollars That's great, and so I'm sure you're now saving money because you don't have to have all these tests and Time and all of that. God has blessed me on that part. I didn't have to pay for anything. Okay, good Yes, I had my insurance from work, and then I had to still have access Okay, good covered everything. So what other miracles have happened in the last 12 weeks? I had some brain fog from the Kobe from October brain fog. Okay, and it was affecting my speech Talk and it's very slow So caused me to be like ashamed for people because My speaking wasn't very clear, right But here in the class Delivered from the brain fog got delivered. Wow, that's great Okay, people who had COVID you have brain fog come to the Arizona delivery center We'll pray for you get rid of that brain fog. Yeah Anything else? How's it going at home? It's better. Better. It's good. We're gonna we're gonna hear more miracles from your house. I think And coming here, I've had a lot of I had a lot of pain in my oh, I couldn't walk That pain is gone. Wow. So it was a sadic nerve. Mm-hmm because it would like shoot up the pain all the way up to my Shoulder, mm-hmm. It's gone Wow All right, thank you sister. Thank you.  Do you want to just share with us? What we can we'll do it at the end and we'll cut it How's that? You don't have to be able to just maybe share what you might want to say. All right Come on Oh, just that song just popped in my head look what the lord has done He's healed my body my mind Saved me just in time, right? So what did he do for you? So this is class. What is it? You know well, I can say and this wasn't on my list or anything that I 100% um overcame um the spirit of fear um I mean It was already going and then um, I shared the experience that I had when I was scuba diving and I ran out of air and once and When that, you know, it was like oh Okay, well, you know, whatever happens happens, but that's you know fear is gone. There's no more fear Awesome That makes a big difference in life. It really does. Yes. It really does So how how else has your life improved since you've been in this class? I think um really just Learning and recognizing so many things just like every Little thing Forgiveness, you know, you know thinking. Oh, I forgave my ex-husband, but why am I still Having all these other thoughts, so it's time to forgive him again. Yeah the forgiveness like, um, You know the art the the feeling inside. Yeah, the eye is like, oh, yeah That still comes so so really just learning to recognize it and then like taking that thought captive and then just Getting rid of it. It's gone. I don't come into agreement with that and just keep Moving on so I think that's really really just learned a lot about about that just um, you know the Some of the curses that you don't really think about I mean just you know the out-of-wedlock curse that you were just talking about um Now I wasn't born out of wedlock, but The way you're describing it makes me wonder if somebody back because I do have that Where I can't seem to keep connections. There you go. Yeah, so Okay, well, we'll take it we can take care of it tonight No, I All right. Okay. Okay. We'll do that later tonight. No, not on camera No, not on camera. I some people have no problem doing that on camera. I just uh, I'm not there yet And I want to absolutely always respect and take care of The person I'm working with Yeah, have you had a one-on-one here? I have okay. Yeah, it got me married. So It got you married. Well, my husband and I had been living I did not tell her to get married No, it was it was um farina. Okay. Um, but we had been living together for 10 years And I actually actually brought my daughter here for her eating disorder, but she wasn't cooperating and Well, you know looked at me she goes Do you think you need something and I'm like, maybe I do And so we went through it and through that she said, you know, you can't Live like that live like that. Right, you know, so we we're still living together But we stopped all physical and meant intimacy everything and then we were married about six months later. So How's it going? Wonderful. Oh, yeah, that's good to hear. She's wonderful It's great everything super. Yeah, thanks, Alicia. Yeah, all right All right next come too much to lay We'll just go around the room. Angela. Come on Jump up here. Yes, ma'am How was the class for you It was I was so excited when you asked me that can I help out and This whole entire year I've just been saying yes lord As the door opened I'm saying yes and so some I'm finding that you don't have to be super perfect or You know all of that to serve god and to step out Don't let god, I mean he already he's already equipped you But you just have to go And so it gave me this class gave me the confidence to keep going Amen Then you suggest the miracle is and I went go go the lord's goes. I went there to go and um And I just prayed even the baptism Mm-hmm That was awesome. I like I felt that was important because I had just gone through something and I had somebody Who was kind of playing with my mind in motions and was a deliverance minister And I wasn't sure if we were going to connect or not. So that was one of my things I wrote in the car That's right. That's right. I got my answer. Yeah, it's clear. Yes, very clear and I felt that with that deception And there's many reasons why people have that deception and sometimes it's Within the body of Christ. You would think the brothers would know, you know, but sometimes that's your worst You've got to really discern what you're doing. Yeah, so all of all of that I with the baptism I felt like I'm just washing all of that away And I said lord, I thank you. I just I just want to surrender easier And I often play pray Lord, don't let my words just be words Because it's it's one thing to say You want to surrender, but how do you surrender and how you know, help me be obedient and so far? So I feel like This is a new stage of my um Walk of Christ. Yeah, and not and being bold like you were saying and no compromise I thought that was just really good Because just a little compromises are like the foxes that just really destroy and yes Have it on your life. Yeah, that's a good word. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. So that was my my experience Is that the only thing that got answered? No prayer Okay, what else? Oh my goodness. Um, sometimes when we step out The enemy will test you and I found that the body of christ came together because My car I think was out most of the class Maybe Anyways for about six to eight weeks. I was like Trusting believing god to get to work to get down here to get to You know the other what I'm the terror. What do we call ourselves and with the terror group or the terror the terror cell I'm a terror cell. Yeah, so I needed to get there. So they you know um, so what I learned from all of that That god rewarded in such a beautiful way um Different ones of you helped me came to drop me.  I said no And even my son who just happened to come home for spend three months now He loaned me $200 And I was like wow and that took care of a lot of stuff And I had through the prayer line. Oh, yeah, uh, what's up? I think it was danielle um another gift for uber and lipp And I'm just thinking lord. I just I just thank him because He provides the provision for Our vision or the vision he has for our lives. Yes, because I I just want to follow him tired trying to Figure it out. Amen. And I'm a real That's good. I'm a political person. So I don't want that. So the baptism is what the class is done You must come to the class There you go We'll start again in january. Yeah, and I'm recruiting. I'm writing names. Okay. Great. Great. Yeah, we'll do it again It'll be good to have some new people to Start it again and go through it and see what else It blossoms out of it. So yeah, thank you about it. And I there's a hunger People are hungry for answers. They're hungry for yeah, how do you live a victory's life in christ? Right, and why do I have recurring situations that I can't figure out why? Well, there's god god can take care of all of that. Amen. He sure can Thank you Okay, give me a hug I'm a hugger. I like the hugs. I'll hug you to other people later And now I don't know what it does to the okay. I love hugs. Yeah I'm definitely Type of person Come on I'd like to say uh, this is Ranju. She's my friend She's my sister not friend. She's my sister. Oh, she got me um Ranju helps me sometimes when I do one-on-one counseling appointments And it's been a real blessing When you come Because I can relax catch my breath and she's got Fire power Fierce, uh, it's a great word fierce. Yeah, the holy spirit manifests this fierceness through this gentle dear sister and it's uh Teaches me. Blesses me. So I just want to say thanks. Thank you. Thank you for letting me a really great thing I got out of this class So, uh, yeah, what has the lord done in your life? Well, she said it basically but um I fell led to join this class even though I had done the miracle list personally in my closet A couple times but She reached out to me and said I could use some help and I prayed about it and I felt led to join I said lord, it's time to step out and I really want to help I really want to do things for the lord that has always been my heart's desire So I stepped out and then I started joining her um with one-on-ones and Spending a lot of time in my closet praying in tongues and I really was able to Understand the power of praying in tongues And how that pulls out your inner man And how that pulls out your spirit man and certain tools that you probably don't even know Are in there. Yeah But the holy spirit brings it out And that's why praying in tongues is not a mind thing when you just do it by faith Start seeing things move and you don't even know but it's That's what praying in tongues does so um There were times that I'd work with her And I'd say something. I'm like, where did that come from? I didn't pre meditate on it. I don't know where it came So that's when you know the holy spirit's working because it wasn't something you thought about And so I think what the class did for me was Well, he takes me to another level with the holy spirit and really pulled me up In the anointing. Yes, I think we all do have anointings. We're all believers and none of us are inferior um I think the enemy does a game there when he makes us feel like one anointing is better than the other or The sister has a great anointing She only does because she tapped into it What did you do, where's your anointing? We all do have something to bring to the table It's about reaching out in the inner man and getting that out and really Grabbing what the lord has for you. It's in each one of us. We just need to know what is in there Yeah, so it's neat. It's been neat to watch her grow Thank you. So she she was a tool to stretch me out So thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. She helped me. Um, she helped pull out the real Renju in there Yeah, it's good. There's more to come Yeah, definitely it's good. Thank you I'm gonna stop a minute. I have the water. Yeah, I think there's one of my desk in there if you could grab it. Thanks That's good. Oh, wow. So, um My sister kelly over here We can be feel nervous Sometimes Feeling nervous.  Come on up but I um Yay kelly I was sitting here and the lord just said she's next but she's nervous And if you make her wait longer She may not do it Is that right? No, I would do it. I just was hoping I you know when you feel nervous It just gets worse and worse the longer you wait. That's what that's what I was sensing that So I just was like that's from him from there. That's who's yeah, so oh, why is she going down this? I shouldn't be nervous because you're like, it's just me.  I know you wanted to and then you had to take care of some things and then you did Yeah, it was it was such a blessing. I had um I was having a lot of um just Trust issues um a lot of Isolation It's trying to do Just very like so careful, but it was like fear. It was operating in fear right and um, you know to get close to people like to be Vulnerable and you know, yeah, yeah, so scary So it was a blessing to to just come to this class because it just You know there you I could be at home and doing self-deliverance and You know or do the one-on-one or come on, you know to the deliverance here in the groups But to be like with a group of women. It's more intimate. You know, I went to a bible study, but it wasn't focused like this like with the You know the deliverance and and really getting somewhat deep Getting deep and that's what we all need the lord wants us to like he's he wants to reveal All those things and not be scared and that was like That happened and and I just I would struggle, you know, because I got in to um A church where they do deliverance. So I I was struggling with retaining deliverance So I would be delivered and then I would be like, well, why am I feeling depressed again? Or why am I having anxiety or what because I you know, I would go through all this deliverance and I would feel free but I couldn't retain it and um This class has helped with that and oh good many ways It really just The letter to the parents. Yeah, you know the when I wrote the letter to my and both my parents had um Like sure all that my parents have passed when I wrote the letter to my dad. I I I read after I wrote it I was like wow, that's cold it was like it was so it was like um Just kind of cold not emotional It was so different from my mom's and I just was like wow. I need to like re Do this letter and like see what's going on and the lord was showing me like no You can't be numb to this anymore. You have to wow because I had like I was very numb You know because I didn't want to feel that hurt from my rejection, you know, right? And um because my dad had kept me a secret and Never, you know Told anybody that I was his and wow. Yeah, and so I felt so rejected and um so I had to forgive him and let go of all that odd and And I was able to do that with the letter and just the deliverance and um The layers and and I remember I would come to you and be like julie This is you know because we just can talk and I mean this is going on or And julie we like pray about it go to our father. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I was like Okay, you know, and I'll just pray about it and he our father will reveal stuff and he did he like revealed some stuff that I um Didn't even know like I still had so much um Heard and bitterness and with my husband And um, it was from when I was 14 years old. So it was like so like 30, you know, we're 30 years so I was just You know able to let that go and it brought healing and a lot of you know, just blessings Yeah, and since then I'll interject since then Now her husband comes and he's serving And the team yeah rick is like mentoring him That's all I'm like Wow Wow, so that's really big. I know and god did a healing for you Yes, um, he did I just I was like this is it was um at your Seminar seminar the first one. Yeah, and I was just you know, it's like no this Our father said he would heal us. We take hold of his promises. It's our legal Right, right and he's gonna do I was like I just came and I was like, I'm gonna get a healing from school Like I've been suffering from so much pain like degenerative this disorder, which is my mom had it um And then scoliosis And I was just I could feel like after when we did deliverance after this seminar and I just I I took hold of that and I just and he he does what he says and I just like sat up and I could feel my spine just you know, I didn't have a very Um large curvature or anything And but it would just be very painful and I haven't well one time the enemy tried to bring something back I was like you're a liar Yeah, I remember I remember that day because you were testifying at the end And you said I I went to stand up and I could feel my back to straighten out Like you got a crack-a-lact by you know a chiropractor or something It's an adjustment Truly and it still feels good. Yeah, so we know that's good Yeah, that's great. That's great and there's more to come. Yes, and she's stepping out Yes And she'll be serving a little bit. Yeah, and I love what I think was angelic Like I don't need to because I I suffered from like you have to be perfectionist You have to do this do this do this and no like I just I was like, you know what I I'm not um I'm just gonna show up And um, and I'm gonna just clean like I just I I'm just gonna like what you said I was just doing buckets for a year. I was like, I'm just just want to be here I just want to serve the Lord. I just you know, he's given given me so much And I just want to learn to help others and yeah, it's a healing Some of us still need To know that we're accepted We're safe No one's gonna judge us No one's gonna reprimand us.  Yes. I mean if you mess up really bad, maybe someone gently but Yeah I you know a lot of us we want to be told hey, I want constructive criticism So I can improve. Yeah, don't volunteer here because you're not gonna get it You're not gonna get it no one's gonna tell you that it's amazing It really is amazing because we are so hard on ourselves. We want to perform and our society has Trained us the enemy has trained us Gotta be perfect. You have to um You know Look a certain way right act a certain way. It's it's all performance based and um The work we do here is not in any of our capabilities. We can't Every day I come here beforehand. I say lord, uh, it's an I can't do this without you It's not possible. So whatever Turns out that's on you Whether good or bad It's yours So I just show up And he takes care of the rest. I do my work praying in the spirit. I read god's word I believe god's word. I try to catch my you know, I do all those little things right and then I just show up Sometimes really a lot of times really really cool stuff happens Like someone stands up and their backs just straightens right out I've seen that a few times now Yeah, so that's cool. Thank you for taking the class. I hope you help out next round You think about it Yeah, no, definitely pray about it. Yeah, that's good Um, I'd like to have more people, you know, I think the fellowship aspect is missing And not that we want to become a church whatever it's uh some some Cases need you need fellowship You need to position yourself where you can give and receive love And It is very important. It's in pigs in the parlor. So that woman sara She had to do a few things and two of those things was one she had to Be in a position in a safe place where she could give and receive love And she needed fellowship. Yes Yeah, that was definitely something that was missing lake.  There's still some people there They still have broken hearts there, you know, I'm taking them to class You trying to bring them to class? Yeah, bring them to class or you can, you know, be of that terror So you go back to your church and you find that one person and you and your husband, you know Could say hey, I'd like to get to know you a little bit better I you come and you're you know, you're trying But you're not living that abundant life that abundant christian life that The scriptures talk about the victory the free and christ the liberty, you know, the Having your heart be whole and not broken So it's and a lot of times that happens only through relationship Yes, because every tend to isolate Right, right and we won't trust anybody because our heart's broken because who broke it people So So I don't want to trust anybody. So you got to have a relationship with somebody and really We don't have to Reach the masses Right So, yeah, thank you. Thank you. God bless you. I love you. Love you too Super super super, okay ladies anybody come on Hi priscilla. How are you? Great. How are you doing? What you got to share with us? well I heard about this deliverance center probably through um, we probably know her silly And I had no idea what I knew what she was talking about. I really had no idea what it was all about So I came here and some other some of the gals that are My classmates we came here And the first night I was here. I was delivered, you know, I was like I didn't even have to wait for any of them I just grabbed my bucket, you know because Silvia had Started to tell me a lot a lot of stuff and I had an idea I had to forgive, you know, and um And it just and it just started from there, you know, and uh coming to this class I just learned the process, you know and Being native american, you know, we we all grew up with traditional cultures and stuff like that and Our courses go all the way back and my grandpa was a medicine man So therefore I had to get all of that out of me, you know and um I'm still doing it.  Mm-hmm. I was telling her about our night I told her I said before I come up. Can you please look at this um YouTube from Mike and she did And when I got back up there, we talked about it And then I and then I'm thinking Shall I try this deliberate process, you know, shall I do it and I just I know you really not a quid, you know, sorry And uh, and and I was we were gonna go I was gonna take her out because she's isolated. She she had just gotten um Layed off for her job.  So I was going to take her out of town we were going to spend about three days in the Albuquerque and um Anyway, and I thought you know what? She said she says Percy I cannot go because I have to be near a bathroom all the time because she's really getting problems I said it's gonna be fine. Don't worry about it. It's gonna be fine And then I'm a thing. Gosh, I really need to do this. I really need to do so We're sitting at the table or dining table And I get this phone call And I don't usually answer phone calls that I don't know the number to and I answered it And here was Melissa. Oh, yeah And Melissa started talking to me and we're talking and then I was actually go to her conference. That's why she was just confirming to see if I was going to be going to her conference And I told yes, I was still interested and um, and then she said, well, do you need prayer? She was I hear I feel a little um, heaviness and oppression. She says So before I even started telling her about my sister, she started going into the spiritual warfare prayer and just really binding everything around because I'm sure she can feel it and I'm And so I just joined in with her And then she's right there in front of your sister at the table. Yes. Yes And I was holding your phone like since she's listening. Oh, wow. So I said, can you hear? She goes, yeah and um I said, um, oh She says, um, well, Priscilla, I have to go. She's The holy spirit and God is there with you to continue to pray and you'll get delivered. She says As soon as she hung up my sister started delivering I was Wow I just I just I just I just started. Um, really, um praying for her and just binding, you know Just renouncing all that, you know, because before that I had told her what was really bothering her Yeah, and um Anyway, we had a good trip. It was really nice. Thank you so much. You're welcome. You know Just being a native american me and what it's just There's so many disease of immune system, auto immune system that, you know I'm staying to be chaplain and It just seems like the lord is Pulling me that way for deliverance. Great and my sister.  If you could you should come back and do stuff like this under reservations She says there's nobody that does that here.  We'll follow.  I have read From you Sylvie has told me she's kind of my mentor, you know, and ever since I came to this deliberate center I come I come every friday like I have time I I do come I work it and Just like you were saying once you get delivered, you know For a year you should stay away from this and try to come to the deliberate center more And I just feel the lord leading me that way, you know, okay, and I'm a retired military person of earth 38 years and I've been in management for so long and I've that I see I have that discipline and obedience that The team the chaplain team the chaplain school the chaplain Administration they want me to be a part of their team and I just feel that I'm praying And I don't think the lord wants me to do that because they're very against deliverance. Oh, wow. Yeah Service. Yeah, thank you And I I just really like just and I'm gonna tell you January I'm gonna take the class over again because I'm I concentrated more on my chaplain class than I did this I mean, I read the books and I did my stuff, you know, but I just really need to get deep and concentrate Yeah, oh really great. I'll be back in January. Well good. It'll be you and I at least Oh, okay, great. Okay. Well, great. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, great Love you too. All right. Um sister Bridget, you want to She's another restroom There she comes. All right. Wow. So everyone is being very brave Not too bad. Is it when you come up here? No, look you just look at me. You don't have to look at them. Okay. Yeah Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that thing. Yeah, we'll just chat Yeah, just look right here. Yeah, just look right here. It's good So we know that you got a blessing with your dentist. You shared that earlier. That's really cool. Yeah So how's the class for you? What did you get out of it? That I that I should be here Because I didn't know how to I was trying to do the um the steps at home But the enemy kept Throwing other stuff at me. So I will always keep forgetting To do the steps and brother Mike was saying do it. Do it. Okay. I'll do it. I'll start and then I just fade on it So this This time with the class I just like I'm going to take I'm gonna do it. I'm really excited so And then when I try coming here the enemy was like full force at me and like full on attacks and Inside outside. I was like, what's going on here? Yeah, so um I learned let me see which It was about Listen with my mom I had um about writing the letter And so I went home And I was pretty excited about was going through everything. I said writing the letter So what do I say? So I just started writing everything. So I just knew that I had everything gotten everything out But then I was starting to write and just tears start coming out and um First it was a little bit of a battle the enemy was stopping trying to stop me. I'm like, no I'm gonna go ahead and finish these tears And everything and so I was uh I was thankful about that. I was happy and I said to god. Thank you very much for Helping me through this because I just started writing and I didn't I thought I would know what to say like come up. But it just Everything started coming out on this on and and I asked for her forgiveness and And I told her that I forgave her And um And I told her things that I thought about her that I thought she was a wonderful person Um that I always saw things that was Really wonderful about her that nobody else seen. I told her I said I saw that And so that helped me And then it was Also fighting the enemy it was It was like um, how do I say it To stand up and be strong and stand my ground And not let them Push me over Yeah, it's like, uh, no, you're not going. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going and I'm going today and this is how it's going to be So So it takes control. Yeah There's times I sat back there and I was just like, uh, but I was you know, I was like, well, I'm here Is it showed up? Good for you So Any prayers that you wrote down on the card did any of those get answered? Yeah, the fear in the workplace. Oh, yeah, fear in the workplace resolved. Yeah And There was another fear that I didn't realize So there was two fears, but the one with the workplace Um, I never seen anything like it Um And then my um, my sister in Christ, she was like, you're going through a trial. I was like, oh Because I was like, what's going on? You're just coming back to back. That's not normal So, um Just to make it short, I went in there and I'm a caregiver and You usually have carts and you know where places to get your stuff at and you got your people and you take care of them for the night And the enemy just came all out through the people. They didn't want to help me or nothing. So All I had was just that I can remember was um Just a couple of gloves. I'm like, so so father I need help. I said, I don't got nothing. I said, what am I going to do? You know, I said, I know you put me here, but I'm not getting any help and so And all of a sudden these ideas start popping into my mind and everything I'm like, that's not me. I said, okay And so I started going in here and doing things and everything I was like, thank you Holy Spirit and I went and everything done. It was a miracle that I got Something done without nothing and no help from nobody Except the Holy Spirit Don't forget about him And so I kept going back and the enemy was hitting me with Taking offense and And I learned through brother Mike and his class that once you Get deliverance get free. That's the first thing they started going after you with and I was like, oh, that's it so, um There is I had it's the people I work and everything and I had to learn to get rid of the odd um So I didn't even know that I was that I even had odd because I was trying so hard to Be nice and be kind and not to Is I don't know. I just upset anybody.  I like to watch his sermons And I was getting ready to pass it and I said no, it's only six minutes and this looked really interesting Let me get in there and see And it was something about him saying that he was going through some uh trials and tribulations. Um Psalms, I think it was psalms 34 I think it was and he was on a plane and And god the holy spirit came to him and it was um telling him To open up and come to me when you have when you're in need of help. I'm here. Let me help you and it was something about um Going from one end of the earth to the other and I'll I'll be there for you And so then I read it When I read it I listened to and I just started bawling And I was like, oh wow and so then I Turned around I looked at the scripture And I started bawling again Then I went back to to the sermon to start bawling again So I think I need to get up and go and go to him. That's why he's telling me to go and So I did that and um And it was um because I prayed and asked for What was that? um The gift of um What is that the gift of the sermon? Uh, not to sorry, but Yeah, I'm just nervous about that I can't think of it, but it was Something to give I just started crying. That's all I can gift of godly sorrow. Thank you It was the gift of godly sorrow And I got on the floor and um, and I was praying and it just all came out and um I asked for forgiveness and then after that he was Telling me things that what was going on why the enemy was hitting me and so That's good. That's great. Thanks for sharing No, god bless you. Thank you so much Thank you There she comes I guess some good things happening in your life. Yes, I do I just want to thank you for allowing me to Join me for the second time around and I just want to say I had a prayer answered from the first class Oh, yeah On the day of water baptism my mom attended with me to for water baptism And I asked her if she wanted to get water baptized with me and that was my first Answered prayer. Yes. Thank you for that And then she attended class with me the second round. Yes, and it's been Now I have somebody like-minded. Yes To go to war with Spiritual warfare things are gonna so happening a lot faster now. Yes, so I just I'm just overwhelmed of god's love for me I think this second round was learning how much father loved me And how much he wants to take me under his wings and just love on me, right? It's hard to accept love when we always thought rejected Right, so I feel that I got my healing from rejection. Amen. That's huge I also want to say that man in group when you allowed me to lead and to learn from you And to be vulnerable and open is when we get the healing and we get to the root and we're able to get the deliverance Right, so I'm thankful for that um One thing I wanted to share is going through the miracle list the second time around I I'm able to recognize And say okay an attack is coming purge yourself. Yeah, you know start binding and commanding and leucine and Taking authority right because god wants us to walk in our authority and I'm so You're I'm being equipped. Yeah. Thank you, Julie for what you do Thank you for the team. Thank you for the leaders Thank you for everybody that came because we can't do this class without you And we learned from one another and we're vulnerable and Julie came and sat in her group. She's like Did you guys shared already we had a whip through the droop? Remember that Alicia we whipped through the circle so fast And we were just talking about how we overcame instead of what how we stumbled Right. So that way if we share our star followings, right a sister next to me Can get her healing and her victory too because we overcame so I'm thankful for that. That's good. Thank you for Thank you. That was a little correction there and you guys did it and And so yeah, father corrects those that he loves right? Yeah, we could grow and develop. Yeah. Thank you. It's no big deal. Thank you Oh god bless you Yeah, mom got deliverance too We had a couple of holy ghost meetings didn't we? Which we're unexpected I didn't Plan it and even the last not the last class but the class before that We had some visitors that I wasn't certain about and so We ended up just praying in the spirit And some more people got deliverance, right? And um, you know, there's new things that pop up There's new things that pop up and you never know how You know, you got to just handle it on the whim and I didn't know who they were I didn't know their intentions So I just figured if they had um Bad intentions that if we pray in the spirit, they'll be flushed out Bye-bye. So, um, I think that's what happened I think that's what happened, um Spiritual things are real They are real and so the lord in his infinite wisdom He put us on this earth as human beings But we are spiritual beings and so if we go throughout life not recognizing and not, um Living like a spiritual being Life is going to be hard harder as christians Before we're a christian, maybe life is fine But before you're a christian your spirit man is dead the bible says so You can live you can live in the world just fine You're not Having any issues, you know, you you live you go to school you get You maybe go to college you get some training you go to work you get married you have kids You live your life you die And I know a lot of people who have nice lives But they're not christian And this life is all to get And that's really sad Because we are far more complex than just our human being Um, we are spiritual beings And um this class this miracle list that mike put together Helped me I know i'm a spiritual being and I embrace that But what it helped me what it helps me do still because I have to remember some things is The spiritual world really impacts my Emotions it impacts my mental capacity and impacts my dreams It impacts how I feel motivation wise That really does and so If I Don't take part in spiritual things then and I'm living life and I'm having all these problems headaches tiredness Setbacks at work Finances things keep breaking our illnesses, you know, and I understand there's a spiritual component That is causing these problems Then I try to just fix them naturally Um, and you spend a lot of money doing that a lot of time money tears And then there's that feeling of expectation When you realize yourself as a spiritual being and father god as spirit And he wants to help He says I'm your ever present help in time of need in time of trouble Whenever whatever trouble that is so um I then look at his word as a spiritual word And I and he gives me understanding it's a gift wisdom, understanding knowledge and out of that you burst this discernment that you're like oh I didn't understand that. I was always that person I couldn't understand like I couldn't measure I couldn't size up the situation very well the people and now that my my spiritual eyes are more open I pray in the spirit a lot I'm helping other people and then I can assess situations a lot more accurately and I don't do it always perfectly but I'm doing a lot better and thankfully my health is all my health is better my situation my finances are good I have opportunities I have friends I have good relationships I have peace with all my family members I mean wow I can go to sleep at night and I'll take medication if I wake up I can pray myself right back to sleep okay and if I'm up a little longer I don't have to feel frustrated because he restores me the minute the minute I get into fear or I start to feel frustrated that I'm awake too long I'm like okay Lord I forgot I belong to you you bought me with a price all of me bought with a price and you want to help me so yeah it's been really this is a great journey so I've been I asked brother Mike about this class and said I think I want to continue I think the ladies want to continue meeting and I'd like to invite I'd like you to invite people and then we could just share so we have the holidays and that's fine for me talking with Renju about it doing me every week doing me every other week so I'll put it to you what do you say I'm here I just tell you I'm here this is what I'm doing with my life okay so it's neither here nor there for me this is what I'm doing with my life I was reading today early this morning Paul was talking about he was talking about if you are a virgin and it's better not to marry and he was really talking about look you want to live your life for the Lord and if you get married then you have to contend with that other person and it takes away and it takes away from the Lord so and everybody's at a different place in that and so Paul was speaking from his point of view his experience and I mean he was the great Apostle Paul he was on fire he was on he wasn't doing anything else with his life he was only spreading the Gospel that was it he made some tense sometimes yes sometimes he made some tense you know he yeah he did make money because he paid his own way he was a missionary that paid his own way you know if he didn't have it he just slept outside whatever he did you know he so he didn't have a wife he just focused on the things of the Lord and in this season of my life that's what I'm doing I'm just focusing on the things of the Lord and this is what I'm doing this is this is it and so sometimes I make some money over here and sometimes I get the visit with family and friends but really this is what I'm doing so I kind of I got you know I like sharing what God shares with me and so if that's beneficial to you and you'd like to keep coming I like the small group aspect of it also I think that's very helpful for every everyone has something to say you know we all have something to share so what do you think what do you want to do we could take a little vote I guess think about every week we're continuing we're going to continue on and sometime in January might be the second or third week in January I'll start the miracle list all over again and so a couple of changes one we'll continue on maybe weekly or bi-weekly and I'll just bring whatever God shares with me and we'll just let the Holy Spirit lead we'll see what happens and from now on I'm gonna have them from the pulpit say we got a Tuesday night ladies meeting come come and bring a friend and wherever we are in the list you know wherever we're talking about they're just come in and they can take part in it okay everybody's nodding so yeah you like that so yeah when when we teach again actually that the miracle is teaching classes it's gonna be open so I tried a few things out I had to do some experimentation right the first class was closed they started with 15 ladies we ended up with like six the second class I said okay the Lord said let them come so I opened it up even though I said we only had so many spots this was this class right and I said let them come we had 19 ladies and you know people were pretty consistent we're kind of thin tonight but that's okay so this next so next week if we choose hey Bridget what's your vote you want to keep meeting every week or every other week every other every other every week you said okay thank you we got a vote for every other week somebody keep track we got one okay well raise your hand for every other week oh that's overwhelming okay you want to share can you get a test can you just share from your seat I'm really in a lot of pain oh all right you share that part my diabetes I've just been praying over and over to try to get rid of it okay I was here on them okay okay okay there's some more work to be done okay you look really beautiful I was not tell you so there's something about you something about the devil that's under your feet I think he's under my feet literally yeah that's that nerve pain pain right well let's just pray for you right now can we know we're not gonna lay hands we'll just do it from our seats yeah that's early yeah okay will you go we'll pray okay how's that no you don't thank you this could you pray in tongues on the way home all right perfect good okay you're getting dizzy now we bind that dizziness in Jesus name we bind every spirit of witchcraft in the name of Jesus Christ we bind it right now and our sister we don't stand for that devil discouragement disappointment we bind you in Jesus name and we command you to looser we command you to looser right now in the name of Jesus Christ we're not going to just stand by and let you torment us any longer we say to you you have to leave you have to leave us you have to leave from within us you have to leave from without outs on the outside of us you have to leave our families our children we don't want you anymore we agree with the Lord that we you are under our feet devil the victory is ours we are free in Christ stop lying to us we're not gonna believe your lives anymore even if we're in pain even if we feel dizzy even if we are hungry and broke and tired and being attacked we're not gonna believe the lie of the enemy that we are defeated it doesn't matter what you do to us we are gonna stand and when we've done everything to stand we're gonna stand firm because we know that the Lord fights for us he tells us you need only to be still I will fight for you the battle belongs to the Lord we have no need to fear thank you Lord Jesus for bringing us together Lord I thank you God that you see us you're the God that sees us you see me and I thank you for it so much Lord Lord you have anointed us with power to overcome the attacks of the enemy whether they are from within or around us it doesn't matter our prayer our speaking is the same leave in the name of Jesus whether you're in our dreams or you're in our waking hours we will continue to declare the word of the Lord he is our strength he is our fortress he is our strong tower no weapon formed against the show prosper we belong to him so in a quiet way we just say you lose our sister Angie in the name of Jesus you lose her right now lose her feet lose her emotions lose her heart her mind her body you lose her right now to fear and doubt I find you in Jesus name and we command you to lose her she doesn't want you in the name of Jesus Christ thank you Lord thank you Lord thank you Lord sister Stephanie you got something to share you want to share with us she's good behind the camera we'll say this a sister Stephanie she shared once before that she needed employment and right away she got employment she needed some financial help she got it you know someone said to me can I talk a little bit more I guess all right so I'm working with this lady on Facebook and she is convinced that the Lord is not always willing to heal us and remember there was a guy in the Bible who said Lord if you're willing where his doctrines messed up because what did Jesus say I am willing the man sitting there he was a leper I think he I forget what his ailment was but he said Lord he believed that the Lord God was not always willing so we questioned him on it that was a doctrine that he believed and there's that doctrine out there that said the Lord isn't the Lord can heal but he's not always willing to heal look at Timothy Timothy wasn't healed he had he had some stomach problems even Paul told him take some wine for your stomach well how come the Lord didn't heal him well you know what Timothy also had fear and where does fear sit right in the belly gee why wasn't Timothy healed because he had fear he had doubt he had unbelief he didn't have a sound mind that's why that's why Paul had to remind him hey remember that spirit that's in there in your belly that I'm telling you to you know in the meantime while you're why you can't go to the Lord for whatever reason you can't get past this hurdle take some medicine have some wine for your stomach okay we're not against it relax but let me remind you that you do what spirits you do have right love power in a sound mind look you got to tell that double-mindedness to hit the road and so I found it interesting that this person I'm speaking with brought up Timothy and Paul she thinks that the thorn in Paul's flesh wasn't a physical ailment which there's there's you know there's people that talk about that as no that's not what that was about there was people coming against him that they were the thorn in his flesh not and they were the infirmity regarding prayer it wasn't it wasn't a physical illness she mentioned some other people left this person sick I'm like well how do we know they're not recovering right lay hands on the sick and they shall recover it's not instantaneous and she said something about you know well you know healings not just for our convenience and I thought wow or that that was only for you know the apostles right or only for the apostles to validate their message what happened to God is just today so right so we can go round and round on this doctrinal stuff right and so I got kind of caught up in it this is what the Lord gave me as understanding there is a story in John chapter 9 about a man who was blind and Jesus met him and told him I think he spit in some dirt and put it on his eyes they as blind he's never met Jesus before and Jesus said go into the river and wash well when the guy came out of the river he could see and what did he do he goes to the temple to worship I think is what it says and he sees the Pharisees and he tells them hey I'm healed and they're like who healed you and he's like well I don't know some guy some guy didn't say Jesus some guy I don't know who he is I don't know who he is I didn't see him I was blind so well that happened on the Sabbath so that must not be right so the guys like I don't know who it is you know this is what happened and he brings his parents and all that stuff right is that the same story I'm not sure I'm mixing it up okay so then he goes back and he meets so the guy who gets blind okay he probably knew that healing on the Sabbath was unlawful maybe he did maybe he didn't but what he did know when he says it he's I don't know who he is I don't know about your laws and about your special doctrines but but I was blind and I can now I can see that I do know right he goes back and he finds Jesus and he's like oh you're Jesus oh you're the guys healed me oh awesome great well did you know you weren't supposed to heal me you know I mean you want to answer doctrines so this gal that I'm speaking with she's telling me something that I'm like I didn't know of this back when I my testimonies I had a dramatic deliverance where I got thrown five feet I was a Christian I was born again I could speak in tongues I was a porn again Christian and the Lord told me that I needed spiritual healing and I didn't know what that meant and so I didn't know at that time that there were some people I believed actually myself that I'm a Christian I can't have demons but I didn't know that there was like a whole doctrine around that I just kind of figured that in my head and she was telling me well you know deliverance is not for Christians when I feel like that guy in the story because I'm like yeah tell that to me I didn't know that that was the doc there was an official doctrine that that the Christians couldn't have I kind of thought that but I didn't know there was an official doctrine so she's telling me you know you know Christians can't you know they don't have demons doing deliverance on Christians is wrong that's against our religion against her doctrine like healing on the Sabbath it's wrong so that must be you know and I'm like I don't know what but what I do know is my back hurt I was blind and then it got healed and it happened through deliverance so I don't know what your scholars have to say about that and and what your NIV Bible says about it but I know that I was sick I was blind and it took deliverance to heal me and it's taken deliverance to heal me completely and she's just gonna accept it and I realize I'm like I'm dealing with kind of a Pharisee type of religious spirit yeah so that was interesting now if we get in conversations with people like that too much it's like a spider will wrap a web right around your brain I heard something the other day that you know when you're witnessing to somebody and they keep bringing stuff up and they'll say you know you'll witness them and then they say well then you know it's God is so good why do you see that Jimmy Evans was talking about it okay just say I don't know about that and he'd go right back to his testimony right I know is this is what happened to me yeah yeah yeah there's something I don't know about that all I know is and you just keep giving them your testimony right right I mean because that thing that they can't say anything you can't say anything about it like this happened to me this really happened to me and there was tangible evidence and there's still tangible evidence so I don't know about that doctrine but it happened in my life and and it's happened in all of your lives and I'm like well what about all the hundreds and millions of people that it's happened for over the years what about all them you're telling them a well Christians well you were break you broke the law because you got deliverance as a Christian so it doesn't really it doesn't really compute anyway that was an interesting exchange with her that was all via text yeah we're messaging on Facebook uh-huh and I asked her about tongues she doesn't speak in tongues yet so I kind of ministered in the Lord showed me I believe that I was kind of on the defensive with her she needed she was asking me to prove well how did how do you answer this in God's word and how do you answer that and so when I asked her about speaking in tongues the Lord showed me that now the ball was in my court and then she answered me and says no I don't speak in tongues someone tried to coach me to do it I was babbling on my own and nothing ever came of it she has like I never got my gift and I'm like well so I got a chance now I'm like okay now you now you're in my this is my line of work so now I know what you're talking about and so I don't know she doesn't respond to me yet but if people aren't willing to hear the message that you're bringing them we got to remember what Jesus said to his disciples right yeah she brought that up about the pool of Bethesda saying that all those people were not healed and only that one person and I said Lord yeah what about that and he's gave me that scripture right there Jesus he didn't cast his pearls before swine right if they don't want to hear and a lot of times they're just planes trying to make yeah the people in Bethesda I mean they were pagan worshipers so anyway that was kind of an interesting thing this week we'll see what happens yeah if she doesn't want to talk anymore if she doesn't get a gift of tongues if she won't move forward with that and repent for believing the lie that God didn't want her to have it or it wasn't for her or she did it wrong why is her a God then I mean I don't know and maybe I misspoke there's nothing he can't but he's not willing he doesn't want to that does not help me at all in my life believing that he doesn't want to well I think that's the difference between religion and a personal relationship with the living God yeah because religion teaches us all this other stuff but right you get to know him personally it's like I wouldn't anybody want to have that relationship with him he's so loving and you know the father son and the Holy Spirit like how do people especially today how do they do it without yeah that's a good question I don't I don't really know and that was me I definitely went to church but I didn't have the I saw some of the power of God the one big thing I think that she maybe got thrown off and I'd certainly was thrown off was that whole Kundalini spirit experience I saw some things and heard about some things that felt really good but then my body was still sick and so here I was in these church services where the glory of God was falling everywhere and everyone's falling out in the spirit and fire and being slain in the spirit which I had experienced that multiple times I'm not saying all of it is not God I'm not saying that but what I am saying is I was still sick yeah so with all that Holy Spirit manifesting what what happened I didn't get under the umbrella to get my healing I mean why was I still sick that's a good question thanks sister she said it sounds like a great seminar yeah I'm working on it I don't yeah we'll see why am I still sick that is the next seminar November 19th yeah why am I still sick right so I'm gonna need your help on that day I don't know if this is gonna go on YouTube but if you're gonna come to the seminar and God has healed you please contact me it's November 19th at noon here at the center if God has healed you mentally or physically or emotionally he's healed you in some way I want to know about it because I want to parade like 20 people up to the microphone and have them declare God healed my scoliosis God healed me of okay try to keep it to just a few things yeah God has healed me of depression God has healed me of anxiety disorder yeah yeah general anxiety disorder and panic disorder okay that's like documented in my file okay and there's other things and so he's the God who heals me he's restored my emotions I don't fall apart at every trial I can stay calm and collect it's amazing so that's what I want to do and I need help it's very testimony is a very powerful there's a lot of people that think God is not always willing to heal and I think if you you know if we take 10 15 minutes and you just take a two minutes one minute to say God healed me of this yes I had breast cancer and God and then I prayed and got deliverance and then I had no breast cancer so I had a question for you though Marianne when you had surgery and they took out I guess it was a mass that they find there was no cancer in the mass left behind yes okay so that's really good but the mass that they took out did have cancer in it okay so hey we let take that so are you still now you don't have any treatment you don't go for any treatment how are you gonna do November 19th November 19th are you gonna go to treatment are you gonna come and testify not telling you not to have yeah yeah definitely pray about it I'm not trying to pressure you on that okay good thank you yeah yeah think about it one of my testimonies is I was a brand-new Christian in my 20s early 20s and I was newly married and I got a UTI and it was very very bad very painful even past the crystallized something that was extremely painful a lot of blood is bad and I did not have any money and I prayed to the Lord to heal me and he did and I have never had a UTI since then so he didn't just heal me for that one he healed me for the rest of my life and I didn't know the doctrine that God doesn't heal I didn't know that doctrine I just I heard I had heard the blood of Jesus healed and I believed it and he healed me yeah I just believed it so what has the Lord healed you from either depression you know maybe it's bipolar maybe it's I don't know PTSD I had that to PTSD from abuse from childhood and you know it was being triggered when I worked with people in my office when I was an intervention specialist counselor and I would be triggered when these kids would talk about their trauma and it would trigger flashbacks for me but now for the last two years I've been working with traumatized adults and they're telling me the horrific stories and it doesn't even faze me nothing I don't have any flashbacks I don't have any crying fits I don't think about them when I leave this place I leave them in God's hands for real this time and it doesn't affect me and I hear these stories like traumatic stories four times a week here yeah so I know I'm healed of that and that's big yeah PTSD you can be healed from that those are fear spirits though it's trauma it's it's causing a lot of problems in your emotions and bring suicidal thoughts it's you're tormented and you don't have to live like that so yeah so I guess we're gonna go every other week we'll take next week off and then we'll start back every other week here so what week is this we are in our is it what week of the month is it we're in the fourth week week of the month okay what night are we gonna meet again we're meeting again on the second week now first of November the first of November so be the first week and the third week of the month the first and third week of the month perfect the first and the 15th oh we have three times we'll meet that month okay perfect so every other week alright and we'll have it 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Welcome back to our lecture series math 3130 modern geometries for students at Southern Utah University. As usual, I'll be your professor today, Dr. Andrew Misaline. In lecture six, we're going to introduce Hilbert's incidence axioms. We've explored now four distinct models of finance geometry in previous lectures. We have our three-point geometry, our four-point geometry, we have phano geometry, and young geometry, and my students would have been exploring other finite geometries in their homework assignments, like five-point geometry, for example. So although these different geometries express some very different properties, like phano geometry, young geometry demonstrates some very different properties when it came to parallel lines, the existence of them and such, there were many theorems and properties that remain true for all of these finite geometries. These common properties give rise to the so-called incidence axioms, and those common theorems were in fact the consequences of the four axioms of incidence. Remember, incidence here is the relationship between a point and a line. We say a point is incident to a line. It's a non-defined term, but intuitively trying to think that the point is on the line, things like that. So these four axioms of incidence are going to be due to David Hilbert. They're part of the Hilbert axioms of Euclidean geometry. We'll talk about that in much more detail in the future, but for the current moment, Hilbert categorized his axioms of Euclidean geometry into various families. We have the incidence axioms, which we're going to talk about in this video. There's the betweenness axioms, sometimes called the order axioms, which we will talk about later in this lecture series. The congruence axioms and the continuity axiom, plus also the parallel axioms. The parallel axioms we'll talk about later. All of the axioms of Hilbert we'll talk about later as we build towards Euclidean geometry. And so in this lecture, I want to establish the four axioms of incidence and essentially every geometry we talked about in the future will be an incidence geometry. The only exception to that we will provide will basically just be counter examples for statements about incidence geometry. That is to say we want to provide examples that, oh, this is a theorem or whatever. We'll use them as these counter examples. We'll just we'll keep it simple like that. So there's four axioms of incidence geometry. I believe Hilbert just labeled them I1, I2, I3, I4. That feels a little impersonal and sterile. So instead we're going to add some colorful names to them. And as we refer to these axioms in the future, we'll always refer to them as these names. And this is not a standard naming system. So it's so unique to this lecture series. So as you get deeper, deeper into lecture series, these names will be you'll be quite affectionate to them, I'm sure. So the first axiom of incidence, we're going to refer to it as line determination. For each two distinct points, there exists a unique line containing both of them. Nearly every finite geometry we've discovered in the lecture series, I can't think of an of an example this, had this as an axiom. For phano geometry and young geometry, this was verbatim axiom 4. For 3-point geometry and 4-point geometry, while I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head, these were verbatim or at least something phrased slightly different but equivalent to what we have right here. These were an axiom given to those geometries. This is a very important axiom for geometry because it really tells us the relationship between points and lines. And the reason I call line determination is the following idea. If we have two points p and q, there's often a common phrase, at least when one talks about like elementary geometry in the United States here, we often say the phrase that two points determine a line. That is, if you have two points, there's only one line on both of them. There's at least one line but it's also unique. There's not a second line that passes through these points. You don't get something like this. And so this is line determination, two points determine a line. That's how we want to think of this. And an alternative geometry without this axiom, that could be a possibility that there could be multiple lines between points. Or maybe there's no line between point, not the case here. Because of line determination, any two points have a unique line incident to both of them. Then our second axiom, we're going to call it secant C. Secant C says that every, for every line, there exist at least two points on it. Every line has at least two points. So that this, I don't want you to confuse this with axiom one here, because axiom one says you start off with two points. There's exactly one line between them, for which that line will have two points. But what about a line that exists but its existence was not determined per se by points? Could there be a line with only one point on it? For which axiom one wouldn't apply to that line because there's only one line on it. Or one point on it. Or could there be a pointless line, a line without any points on it whatsoever? Well the secant C axiom says that all lines have at least two points. There could be more. There could be infinite for all we know. But secant C guarantees that every line has at least two points. So you don't have a one point line. You don't have a pointless line. And the reason we call it secant C, this is just a geometric metaphor. Remember a secant line is a line that intersects a circle at two distinct points. There's at least two points of intersection. I mean for a circle that's the maximum there. But that's where this term secant C coming from. That the points are going to cut the line. All right. Axiom three tells us, well we call it point existence. It says there exist at least three points in the geometry. There exists at least three points. So we have at least three points, something like this. There could be more. There could be infinite. There could be four. There could be 17 points, whatever. There's at least three points. Every geometry really needs some type of axiom of existence. When we looked at three point geometry and four point geometry, there were axioms that said things like there's exactly three, there's exactly four. Which of course means there's at least three in that situation. Those are stronger conditions than the point existence we take on now. When we came to phano geometry and young geometry, we didn't say that points existed. We said lines existed. But we had statements similar to secant C. In phano geometry and in young geometry, we had an axiom that said all lines have exactly three points, which is a strengthening of this statement. If you have exactly three, then you have at least two. It's just more specific. And so because lines exist and lines have points, points exist. And we can get point existence from that situation. So my point is that with all these geometries, there's some statement of existence. If you don't have a guarantee that points or lines exist, then you might just have the empty geometry, which is not super exciting because there's no points or no lines. You also could have, could you have points without lines? Well, because you have points and because you have line determination, lines have to exist as well. Or the other way around, if you have lines and secancy, then point has to exist as well. So secancy and line determination tell us there's a relationship between lines and points. Line determination gets us from points to lines. Secancy gets us from lines to points. And then point existence tells us that there exists a point. And since we can go from points to lines, we have lines as well. But I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I'm starting to prove things about the incidence axioms. We'll get to that in the next video. The last axiom incidence, number four, I'm going to call this non-colinearity. Remember that points are collinear if they live on the same, if they're incident to the same line. Non-colinearity says that not all points live on the same line. If I take the set of all points, that is a non-colinear set. There is no line that contains all of those points. And this was also often taken as an axiom for many of the Financiams who studied as we went forward. If I remember correctly, if I'm incorrect, you don't have to correct me here. But I think on Young and Fano Geometry this was axiom three of our axioms and then with three point and four point, they might have had something similar to that. I don't recall at the top of my head, I do apologize. But these are the four axioms of incidence established by David Hilbert for which if a if a geometry satisfies these four axioms, we call it an incidence geometry. Some people call it a linear geometry or linear space. I prefer to avoid that term because it starts to sound a lot more like a vector space, like from linear algebra. We don't want to confuse that there because actually the geometry of a vector space has a more structure than this. They are incidence geometries, vector spaces are. I'll give you some clarification on that a moment. But there's also other geometric structure going on there for which an incidence geometry in general doesn't have. So I'm not a big fan of that term, although it is used. So in our lecture series, we will refer to this as an incidence geometry. Some people call it an incidence system or something like that. But that's again starting to sound more combinatorial and less geometric. So we'll call this an incidence geometry in our language here. And so going forward for this video and other videos, you might want to copy down these incidence axioms and put them in a notebook as you're studying geometry here because we're going to refer back to them over and over and over again. But rarely are you going to see them on the screen. So take a moment, pause the video if necessary, and copy these before we go on. So next what I want to do is actually discuss some examples of incidence geometry, for which I've mentioned them already, but let's be more specific here. Three point and four point geometry, which we discussed in lecture three, are examples of incidence geometry. The five point geometry that we discussed in the homework, at least for my students, if you've been following the videos and not doing the homework that you might not know what that is, but it's also an example of five point geometry. Excuse me, five point geometry is an example of incidence geometry. And then Fano and Young Geometries, that we did in lectures four and five, are also examples of incidence geometry. These are examples of finite incidence geometries. What about an infinite incidence geometry? Well, I mentioned vector spaces a moment ago. The vector space R2, this is the Euclidean plane. This is sort of like the archetype of what a geometry is supposed to be, although there are many non-Euclidean geometries, which we'll talk about in other lectures, of course. But R2 is a incidence geometry. Incidence geometry, it does have points, it has lines, it has incidences, these are undefined terms. So to tell you that R2 is an incidence geometry, I need to interpret the undefined terms. What is a point? What is a line? What is incidence? And then with that interpretation, argue why the four axioms are then statements, why they're true statements, I should say. So what is a point in the set R2? Well, R2 is it's the Cartesian product between R and R. Every element of the set R2 is an ordered pair, X and Y, where X and Y are real numbers. It's very common convention that when you talk about a geometry, you denote it as a set, and that set is the set of points. So ordered pairs X comma Y, those are points in the geometry. Again, common convention that when we refer to a geometry, we refer to it by the set of points, and then the set of lines and incidences implicit. It's not specifically stated, although we have to be very, we have to be explicit at this moment so you know what that means. So a point is just an ordered pair. It's an element of the set R2. What is a line? A line in this interpretation is actually a linear equation. Ax plus By equals C, where of course A, B and C are not all 0. Two of them could be 0. One of them could be 0. None of them could be 0. But they can't all be 0. That's not considered a linear equation. I guess I should say A and B can't both be 0. C could be 0. I don't care. But A and B can't both be 0. Which that's the problem. A and B are never both 0. Otherwise, it's not a linear equation. And so linear equations are lines. And this is really, when we get down to this, to the basics here, that's why we call these linear equations. Because linear equations give us lines. We often like to think of like an analytic geometry. The graph of a linear equation is a line. Hence why we call this a linear equation. We're kind of going the other way around here. We're saying a line is this equation. You can call it the graph if you want to. But I didn't want to get into anything like that. But the line is this equation. And because there are equivalent equations that give us the same solution set basically, one has to be a little bit more careful because you could have the multiple lines. So really, we have to place an equivalence relation on this. We're really talking about the graph of the line. That the graph of the linear equation, that's what a line is. But I'm not trying to get too much into the details here. Incidents is then defined to be a point is incident to a line if it's a solution to that line. That is if you plug in x and y and it satisfies the equation. That's incidence. And that would then we can then show that this is an incidence geometry. What are the what are the axioms again? Let's go back up. So any two distinct points determine a unique line. And this is a practice you do in like college algebra, intermediate algebra.  It's like, oh, I have a line x1, y1, and I have a second point x2, y2. If these two points live on the same vertical line, it's pretty easy to determine what that point is. But if not, if they're not on the same vertical line, then you can compute their slope. You can use point slip form, put in slip intercept form, yada yada. You can construct the line that contains both of them. And that will be the only line that contains them. Do lines contain, do lines take at least two points? In this geometry, all lines have infinitely many points, uncannably many points, frankly. Do points exist? Yes, there's uncannably many points, but that's at least three. And then not all points lie on the same line. Any line you construct, give me any equation, I can find you something that doesn't solve it. So give you give the equation ax plus by equal c. Can I construct something that's not a solution? Well, if c is not zero, then notice the point zero zero is not on a line. That's pretty simple. Now if c is zero, then by assumption a and b, they can't both be zero. So without the loss of generality, you know, we could assume we could assume that a is not zero in that situation, for which then use the point. Then we use the point, something like one zero, something like that. Because then when you evaluate, you're just going to get a, a which is not zero, which is not equal to c, so it doesn't work. I'm not trying to die too much of the details here, but there's a point, every line has a point none on it, you can construct it. And so the four axes of instance are satisfied. So r2 is in fact an instance geometry. But I want to make mention that this argument about r2 wasn't really specific to r2. What if I moved on to r3, r4, r5, r6, these higher dimensional vector spaces? This idea of incidence makes sense there as well, for which a point is just an element of the vector space. So a point is just a vector. That's something you typically see in linear algebra. Points are vectors. It's just this interpretation right here. Now in that situation, what's a linear equation? Well, there's actually a lot of ways you can interpret it.  A line usually in the usually of course in the linear algebra setting a line is then going to be the set spans by a single vector. You know you get something like a line is going to be y is equal to you know some tx plus b or something like that, where this is some fixed vector and this one right here is allowed to vary. And so anything of this form forms a line. You can think of that way and that usually and that's that's the way we think of it in Euclidean geometry and higher dimensions but there's something that stops you from taking a hyperplane and be like oh ax plus by plus cz whatever d. You could call this linear equation a line for which incidents would make the same would make the same sense. The four axims will be satisfied. Now again I use the word hyperplane like this is a three-dimensional example something of a plane. Those aren't lines right but we haven't really defined what plane is, what a hyperplane is, what's dimension. At the moment we're really only talking about points, lines, and incidents. Okay and so linear equations in these higher dimensions could be interpreted as lines because they behave the same way that the incidence axioms seem to be telling us they have at least two points. There's at least three points in the geometry. There's not one linear equation which has everything satisfied with the exception of the zero equation where everything is zero you know something like that. That would satisfy but we're not talking about that one we said that oh these coefficients can't all be zero but that's the thing is we don't want that one and so in some essence in these higher dimensional Euclidean geometries if we just stop at the four axims of incidents I could interpret a plane as a line. I could interpret a hyperplane as a line. We don't want that in higher dimensions so we have to specify what's the difference between a line or a plane or whatever. Now in this lecture series I want you to be aware that we really aren't going to distinguish well I should say we really aren't going to leave two dimensional geometry. We're not going to dwell upon things like planes and higher dimensions. We're just going to stick ourselves just to planer geometry so the geometries we talk about are a single plane and so we really aren't going to talk about these higher ones but they are interpreted as incident geometries and if we're not careful there's multiple interpretations. We can put on the same set that is we take the same points when we interpret lines differently. We get different incidence geometries. We want to watch out for such things and so while R2 the interpretation we have here is exactly the one we want. In higher dimensions it can get a little bit weird and so we'll be focusing just on planer geometry here. In the next video I want to start proving theory about incidence geometry in which these are going to be theorems that are true for every incidence geometries. Every incidence geometry including the ones we've already discussed in this lecture series.