I would like to start. Thank you very much for coming. My name is Tim Maas and I'm here to talk to you about security threats at conferences. And I'm very excited and happy to be invited here. It's my first time in the United States and I like it very much. I'm from...no, where's the bag? I'm sorry. So, yes, I'm from Athens, Germany. It's a town located near the Dutch and Belgian borders in Europe. You'll see where it is. And I'm here today because I joined the Fedora project about 10 years ago. Initially I started as a packageer but I also contributed patches to several applications that we use at Fedora. Whenever I found something that bugged me, I tried to submit a patch. And recently I'm doing mostly release engineering. And while I'm contributing to Fedora, mostly in my free time, in my day job I work as a penetration tester at Rating Pen Testing. It's a company specialized on penetration tests so all day long I try to find security vulnerabilities in our customer systems and then I document them and present them to our customers. And because I do this all day long I get a certain feeling for security problems and now I'm here to present you some that I identified especially at conferences. But I do not want to only point to problems. I also want to discuss some countermeasures as soon as possible. There are some that you can do as a user but it's also important that projects provide secure access to their services and perform certain configurations to make it possible for users to actually be secure. And what kind of pets am I talking about? There's one that I'm currently exposed to because I use this wireless presenter and this should actually only allow me to switch to the next slide but it's a full keyboard. Not on this side but on the receiver side. So therefore you can print custom transmitter and then send arbitrary commands to it because unfortunately the communication is not properly secured. And I hope that you don't do this because this would for example delete all my files. It wouldn't work here because I use a dedicated user account but this is one pet that's here at least for speakers. For all of us even if we are not giving a talk there is a pet that comes from a more common wireless communication that we're using here and this is the hotel network or the hotel wireless network and I wonder who of you is using it? Really? Not so many. And do you know whether you are right now using this little access point? Yeah. And this is the problem. You might not, you do not know if you're really using the access point that I bought or if you're using the actual infrastructure from the hotel and therefore certain attacks are possible because I can, if you use this access point I can control other communications and this allows for so-called man-in-the-middle attacks. And one basic attack is just to disturb the communication so I can either make you not communicate at all or just prevent you from using certain sites and what's more dangerous I can manipulate the communication in a way that you don't know what you're really accessing. For example even if you open a certain web page it might be that I manipulated it under the hood and it's doing malicious things. To know whether or not you're using the right website it's important that you use strong cryptography and it's basically keys and signatures and with the keys you can encrypt and create signatures and the signatures can be used to verify whether or not you're accessing the right system. And the common protocol for this is HTTPS compared to plain HTTP which doesn't use encryption. I don't want to get into more details about cryptography but there will be a presentation tomorrow at 11 am that might be interesting for you if you want to know the basics of it. But there's also another important detail about wireless attacks and it's not even necessary that they use the wireless network that's available here but if your devices are configured to use any free wireless network for example from the airport or from some cafe at home it's still possible for me to create the access point properly here and then your devices will connect to it. And I wonder if any one of you using WPA Enterprise at your company and you will also have a problem because it's very hard with Linux and Android to use it securely. It's possible if you properly configure your devices but it's not very easy and if you're using for example username and password authentication with WPA Enterprise it might be possible that I create just the access point that you use at your company and your devices will also tell me what are the names of the networks that they know and then I might get the username and password and it would be maybe even possible to access other accounts or services from your company if you use the same accounts there. If you are interested in the details you can grab me after the talk and you can discuss whether or not you're really affected by this and for everyone else it's probably sometimes more common to use let me begin again if you already know that there might be attacks at the Wi-Fi network you might be using VPN to protect yourself from these local attacks but VPN is not really created to protect against these attacks but allow you to access your home systems and therefore there are still some problems that might be arise from just using VPN for protection for example there are many conferences like for example FOSSTEM in Brussels that already provide IPv6 access but it's not so common to have IPv6 networks everywhere so VPNs might not even handle it because they are used to access your home system if you don't have IPv6 at home the VPN might not be IPv6-aware and then if your system like Linux does for a long time supports IPv6 and the local network supports IPv6 all your traffic might actually be bypassing the VPN and not be protected by the VPN and additionally an attacker can also provide you with IPv6 connectivity making sure that your VPN is bypassed and another problem which should not be forgotten is DNS even if all your regular traffic is protected via the VPN it might still be possible that you do not use your local DNS server sometimes there are even set up conferences where you want to use the local DNS setup to access local services and then this can still be used by an attacker to make sure that certain traffic is not routed to the VPN and therefore you also need additionally a firewall which makes it a rather complex construct it's not just maybe the VPN and everything is working but there are several other things like a set that need to be considered and rather easy and good workaround for the meantime if you just want to have a VPN but don't have one would be to use SSH you can use to support to create a so called SOX proxy server you need the dash uppercase D parameter and then you can configure your browser for example Firefox to use the SOX server and then all your local traffic is at least secured at this point and if you have a software that does not support SOX directly there are other tools like proxy chains G or TSOX available that you can use to create to make them SOX aware but this still leaves certain problems for example you are then secured at the conference but depending on where your SSH server or VPN end point is located the traffic between the VPN end point and the other servers is still not protected so it's not really a final solution and also as an attacker I can just make sure that all traffic to your VPN is very slow and if you're for example from Europe you might just think it's because the traffic from the USA to Europe is currently not so good from this conference and may not be using the VPN without really thinking that an attacker is currently performing an attack and of course this is also something where you have to consider who is really responsible to allow to access a service security is it the user who has to make sure that everything is protected but he can't or he or she can't really because it's not possible to have a VPN to do a final service or is it the service provider that has to do something and also if your VPN is not working would you really stop accessing it especially at the conference they have a workshop and you would like to attend and configure something I guess many people will just try to access the internet and not think about attackers and last but not least there's also at least one page that you will be accessing without the VPN and this is the login page for the wireless network because you can't access it because you can't access your VPN before you access this login page there will be at least one request that's not secured and there are even attacks possible right now so the VPN is not the final solution and the problem is that for the worldwide web we use cookies and cookies especially used to store a secret value and this secret value is used to identify yourself to web pages and this allows you to access web pages without having to enter your username and password again and again and again but it also means that the value of this cookie is as important as a password because once an attacker gets it then the attacker can access the service with the same privileges as the original user and how can I do with this as an attacker if you're browsing any unprotected web page it's possible to insert content that doesn't belong there so for example an image in this case it would be an image from the drug scheduling web application that also supports authentication as you can see it's insecure using plain HTTP instead of HTTPS and if the browser has a cookie for this service and it's not web protected it will be sent via the unencrypted connection and then the attacker can read it and use the scheduling application in this case with the same privileges but it's actually rather easy to make sure that this doesn't happen because all you need to say is secure I don't know if you can see it it's highlighted in red if you send a cookie you just say secure and then the browser knows this is an important cookie and won't send it over unencrypted connections this is something I believe that in the RFC for cookies since the beginning so several years more than 20 years ago or something like this but there are still modern frameworks that don't do this by default I gave the similar talk at DefConf earlier this year and when I looked into this into a good example from the Fedora infrastructure I noticed that the new applications didn't do it right because the new framework didn't do it by default and nobody looked into it until then now the question remains why does the flux scheduling service not do it right and if you... does anyone notice what's wrong here? HTTP yes, it's playing HTTP and not HTTPS and this is currently the default so did anyone notice it while logging in earlier? yeah, so here it's basically already the problem that if you log in into this web application at this point your username and password will be sent unencrypted through the wireless network so it's even easier to get to the credential but this is also the reason why they can't protect the cookie because if the cookie would only be sent via secure communication or HTTPS you would have to log in again and again because the service didn't know that you already authenticated and why don't they do this because HTTPS actually works I asked them and they told me that the problem is that they provide their service also for the customers to integrate them into their application and then they said it doesn't work always I'm not so sure if it's really a valid reason but at least for the Fedora web application it's also currently the case that the certificate is not correct so there you could log in as well but it's not possible to do it via HTTPS fortunately it's really a rare example that we have a web page in Fedora which doesn't have proper certificates I just want to use it as an example in this case and therefore it's important to use proper certificates and provide proper HTTPS service and if you buy and certificate it's also not that expensive anymore it's about 10 dollars per year per certificate and hopefully next month it will also be possible to easily get secure and free certificates but just providing HTTPS service is not enough because initially HTTPS was not designed with security in mind there were secret agencies that influenced the creation of the protocol to make it insecure by default so they would still break it and recently there were several publications about the problems that were found in earlier versions of the Thunder so it's also important that you check your configuration and make it wide and only enable recent and proper cipher suites for example in protocol versions there are so many details about this that I can also not explain right now but if you, for example, use this web page and don't have the proper configured server you also find a lot you find help about what you have to do and I won't now show an attack that might also happen if you provide HTTPS and it's also configured securely because it's still possible as an attacker to make sure that you're not accessing the web service via HTTPS because by default if you enter an address in your browser it will default to playing HTTP and not HTTPS and if as an attacker I block or HTTPS access I can make sure that the user connects via playing HTTP and even if the server if the service server does support HTTPS I can make sure that a proxy program connects via HTTPS to the service only provides playing HTTP to the user and to reduce this risk to make sure that users don't always have to check whether or not they are using playing HTTP or HTTPS there wasn't there was something added to HTTP a header called strict transport security and if you use this it makes sure that every request remains only made securely via HTTPS by default it's for you also have to set a certain time so once your browser is connected to a web page securely it will connect to it for example the next half a year and this still leaves a small window of opportunity because if you access a service for the first time your browser does not yet know that you have to access it via HTTPS and therefore there is a so called preload list that is maintained by the Chrome developers and then you can add your domain after you configured it correctly and then it will eventually be shipped with all major browsers and then the browser knows this is a domain that should only be accessed securely of course it takes a little time until it's available everywhere but this makes me sure that the user does not have to does not we begin again this makes sure that the user does not have any problems if a web page accidentally uses HTTP or if there is an attacker that wants to make sure that HTTP is used and in Fedora we cannot still use it for all of FedoraProject.org but only for selected sub pages because we have still two or three services that we need to migrate to a proper CA but hopefully this will also happen soon until now I mainly discussed HTTP and HTTPS but there are also other protocols that are commonly used at conferences and not everyone might be aware that they are not that secure for example if you use Git like this with the native protocol you don't have any cryptographic protection so if you use this in my attacker Wi-Fi network I could use it to insert arbitrary contents into the Git repository that you are cloning so of course it's not on the server side but on the local side but later if you for example push you call it again back to the server repository it might also get there therefore you should only use secure protocols like HTTPS again or SSH if you need to buy the access it's also important to not do for example use the Git protocol at home because you feel it's safe there because then you have the problem if you do it again at a conference you might not change the protocol and still be using the insecure method at Fedora you already promote the secure protocols at certain pages especially for example at Fedora hosted and you know new Git font and pager will also only provide the secure access and this again makes sure that users do not use insecure configuration by default but only secure configuration and the HTTPS protocol also supports a so called smart transport which is basically a CGI script in the backend and this makes sure that you don't have huge performance penalties that existed when Git was initially introduced or the HTTP transfer method was introduced but this also leads to the next problem if you ever used SSH to access a certain Git repository you probably saw this error message and this again this indicates that the SSH tool doesn't know whether or not it's talking to the right service so if you are at a conference it might also be possible that you are actually accessing a service the server from an attacker at Fedora we therefore provide you secure access to all the SSH keys that are needed to identify the proper service and you can for example easily download them and store them in your local system and then you won't be asked whether or not it's the right server or it only gets run if it's the wrong server and this is something that I would like to recommend for other services as well because it makes it really easy to do it securely and it's not only SSH it's everything that you provide in Fedora that's properly signed and you find whenever you download something you find instructions how to verify everything that we submitted this is something that's also important whenever you provide access to something make sure that it can be properly verified in this case we use GPG with GPG it's important to verify the keys again that you have there many people only use the so-called key ID which is a small part of the fingerprint but this key ID can easily be forged so you can create a second key which has the same key ID and therefore you have to verify the whole thing in this case it's also possible to download the key directly from Fedora over the HTTPS protocol and I believe earlier this year someone even showed how easy it is to fake all these short key IDs and they cloned every publicly available GPG key and created the second one with the same key ID and they also added all the keys found earlier so if you look at their key server it all looks like regular keys but they are all keys that they get generated this shows again that it's practically possible to do this kind of attack and the other part in Fedora we are not only providing users the software we are also consuming it in the form of source code that we get from upstream project and when we are lucky they also provide signatures for example here for YouTube GL therefore it's also possible therefore it's also necessary to check these signatures whenever they are available to make sure that we are not distributing any modified content to our users this is for example how it can be easier to specify the source the signature and the key in a spec file and then make sure before you do anything here in the spec file that you verify whether or not the source, the key and the signatures match and only if this succeeds then you do anything with the source code so until now I only talked about technical risk especially for your passwords but there are also some other problems at the conference if you want to collaborate you probably need to access a lot of services and therefore you will enter your passwords a lot and with other people around you it might be easy that someone just notice or can just see which kind of password you're entering or what's the password you're entering therefore it's also good to avoid using passwords as a single authentication there are several devices currently available that you can use additionally to a password and at Fedora we support so-called UV keys for at least currently for critical access for administrative access in Fedora infrastructure I know that there are plans to provide this kind of protection for future in the future for other services at well and for regular services and this is more or less the only protection you have to protect your password from being spotted at a conference and here we have also another example that we not only provide this kind of security at least for administrative access we also promote it by giving people at least a Fedora badge whenever they configure a UV keys and there's there's even another web page that I want to show you that wants to promote secure truth vector authentication from the other point of view because they list all services or service providers that already provide secure access and whenever you're providing service it should be a motivation for you to be added to this list to have an advantage for your service providers and this is what I wanted to talk to you about currently in conclusion I want to make sure that whenever you access something you try to use encryption or not even try it you enforce it and this is something that needs to be done especially as a project to protect the users and also encryption does not protect you against everything to make sure that whenever you consume something it's the right one therefore verify everything and allow others to verify what you've done by signing it and possibly try to avoid passwords at least long term try to get rid of them so I also got my badge now thank you very much and yeah I also would like everyone who provided me with an image for this presentation do you find the sources and if you ever want to consume something that I signed here are the details about my DBG key but there will also be a key signing party on Friday I believe 5pm so are there any questions I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff and at work I like how to watch all these videos and it says that they said to do all the same things that you did I don't actually know how to go about doing any of those things I know the words I've heard them before and I just listened to your presentation but I still don't know what to do and I logged into my work email which I'm sure I was not supposed to do on this very insecure network so how do I actually what's the next step to actually doing these things the easiest thing for you to protect you would be if you have doing an SSH so if you know someone who is providing you with an SSH server you can probably easily use it to at least protect you against local attackers and the other thing is that actually your employer needs to make sure that you access your web service securely so it's something you can check whether or not you're using HTTPS but it doesn't show you whether or not the cookies are really protected it's vigilance yeah really easy first steps as a user I think it's only the only thing would be using at least some kind of protection it will survive on VPN yeah so I was on the southwest I was on the southwest airlines and they have an in-flight Wi-Fi so I had two browsers one is Viaparks one is Chrome on my Chrome I disable my HTTPS everywhere that's an extension all of that then I started noticing this bar on top of my web pages that showed the flight status so southwest started injecting their own scripts inside web pages to show this bar and then when I turned back to my Firefox where I had HTTPS everywhere it didn't appear anymore because they cannot really inject anything into HTTPS so it comes down to looking out when you are in the I actually had a similar interesting experience with Wi-Fi I tried to connect to it but I think it was in Chrome and Chrome it looks like you are being hand in the middle I refuse to permit you to connect to this and I went to help but it's refusing to permit me to connect kind of annoying this is also this is also something that you get as service provider if you use the HTTPS header then the browser will not allow you to bypass these kind of warnings but it will only show you there is something wrong, you might be attacked bad luck I think the HTTPS everywhere extension is a good one to mention in this presentation it's kind of always forces to use HTTPS yeah so maybe it would be something for you to go on browser it more or less changes the HTTPS setting with HSTS to the browser so that your browser remembers whether or not you can access something via HTTPS if it ever worked what's your opinion on SSH finger prints and DNS records if you are using a DNS sec it's obviously a good idea when you verify it on its own it does not add much protection because when you are using a DNS server service unprotected an attacker can also manipulate it correct would you be invited to the board if DNS sec was what I made it adopted yes I think Fedora also provides even DNS sec secured access to SSH finger prints right now but the problem still is that the clients don't check it properly yeah all the big gate posters have records out there but they don't get verified properly yeah thank you very much if you have any more questions later you can also grab me at the conference anytime


Hey guys, my name is Boris. I'm a physician assistant. Today is day nine of our pants review where we pick a random pants study note card and discuss it Today's topic is going to be this is just a very quick one Just a one word answer The question today is what is the antidote for ethylene glycol ingestion? All right, so this is gonna be your toxicology your poison section. What is the antidote for ethylene glycol ingestion? If you're not aware ethylene glycol is used in antifreeze windshield wiper fluid And various solvents and cleaners that you may find under the sink in a laboratory in an industrial setting Um, so somebody ingested an unknown substance. However, you know that they work as a cleaner or they work as a mechanic Um, you know, this would be a part of your consideration.  What do I do? What is the antidote that this person would receive antidote for ingestion of ethylene glycol? and that antidote is i'm gonna butcher how to pronounce this thing, but it's foam epizol Foam epizol and i'm gonna put it on the screen because it's you know a weird word, but foam epizol f o m e p i z o l from epizol And also a little bonus question Uh, what are the symptoms of ingestion of ethylene glycol?  What might they present to your emergency room with? What might they be uh complaining of? Give you a couple seconds for that too All right symptoms of ingestion of ethylene glycol are flank pain hematuria oliguria And then of course this is not a symptom but a lab finding is going to be anion gap metabolic acidosis So again symptoms slash lab findings of ethylene glycol ingestion flank pain You know pain right here kind of low back upper low back where the kidneys are flanks flank pain hematuria blood in the urine oliguria And then labs will find or possibly will find anion gap metabolic acidosis See you guys in the next video


Terralman Klobuchar, Ranking Member Lee, thank you so much for the opportunity to testify today on behalf of Public Knowledge, a nonprofit working in the public interest for over 20 years. I'm Charlotte Swayman, Competition Policy Director at Public Knowledge. Gatekeeper Power is at the root of big tech's competition problems. Experts, policymakers, and advocates the world over have identified gatekeeper power, sometimes bottleneck power, sometimes strategic market status, as the power that dominant digital platforms have over other businesses' ability to reach their customers. Right now, big tech has the power over us and our data. And we need to protect both users and a competitive market with new laws and rules to promote fair competition against them. Until we have a real choice to leave these platforms, if we're not happy with them, they won't have the incentive to win us over and will continue to miss out on disruptive innovations that challenge the status quo. I wanna take this opportunity to highlight important legislation that I think can help to address the underlying power dynamics that have led us here. Interoperability, data portability, and delegatability are the privacy protective ways to neutralize the power that big data confers upon dominant digital platforms. Right now, if I'm frustrated with how Facebook treats my data, I don't really have the option to leave because my friends and family, the businesses, groups, and even schools I need to communicate with are on Facebook. Interoperability would allow competition to flourish by letting users communicate across platforms. Look to the Access Act for a model of implementing interoperability to maximize competition and protect privacy. These platforms can abuse their gatekeeper power to freeze out would be competitors from the market. And one of the tools for that anti-competitive discrimination is big data. Gatekeeper platforms can put their own products first on the page, give them the best attention grabbing design, and point users away from companies that pose a competitive threat. While this offends our basic notions of fairness, this behavior would be difficult to stop using our existing antitrust laws. We need a non-discrimination law to reliably stop it. And I'm so glad to see Newsreplay Chairwoman Klobuchar is working on just such a bill here in the Senate. There's a strong model in the American Choice and Innovation Online Act from Chairman David Cecilini in the House. Strict limitations on mergers by dominant digital platforms and giving our federal antitrust enforcers the ability to sue to break up vertically integrated dominant digital platforms are also important parts of how we can address gatekeeper power. The Platform Competition and Opportunity Act and the Ending Platform Monopolies Act are strong examples of how these tools could work. These four bills were recently endorsed by a BARC bipartisan group of 32 state attorneys general. App stores and operating systems preference their own products when it comes to communication with the user and to data, the Open App Markets Act zeroes in on the gatekeeper role that app stores play. Purposeful narrowing of our antitrust laws by the courts have left big business with a license to engage in a host of anti-competitive conduct. A myopic focus on price and other easily quantifiable effects leaves out important innovation and consumer choice harms that antitrust is supposed to address. Terrowman Klobuchar's Competition and Antitrust Law Enforcement Reform Act would help rein in the power of big data by updating the legal standards for blocking mergers and stopping exclusionary conduct. Competition is not a panacea for the challenges of big data. We also urgently need new privacy laws to protect users and a digital regulator to comprehensively address the policy questions surrounding digital platforms. A comprehensive federal privacy law could be pro-competitive by creating a level playing field for dominant incumbents and new entrants alike. For decades, Washington has taken the perspective that we need to let digital businesses run wild to see what great innovations they might come up with.  These largely unregulated platforms have been allowed to amass powerful gatekeeper roles where they need not fear competition or government intervention. For users to really have control, we need to have a real choice to leave these platforms. We need real competitors and we need switching to be easy. To get those things, we need new laws and rules to promote fair competition on and against gatekeeper platforms like Google and Facebook. Congress has already done a lot of the work of introducing a series of bills to combat these harms. The best time to pass them was 10 years ago, but the second best time is now. Thank you.


We now move to First Minister's Questions. Question number one, Johann Lamont. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. To ask the First Minister what engagements he has planned for the rest of the days. Engagements to take forward the Government's programme for Scotland. Johann Lamont. Thank you. Presiding Officer, the First Minister and I can agree on two things. Sir Ian Wood is the preeminent expert on North Sea oil, and Sir Ian doesn't have much time for politicians. Yesterday he reluctantly entered the referendum debate, saying he did so as a father and a grandfather, and saying he didn't want future generations to ask why he stood silent. He warned the Scottish Government had overestimated oil and gas production by between 45 per cent and 60 per cent. He warned the First Minister had overestimated oil tax revenue by £2,000 million a year. Is Sir Ian Wood right, or would the First Minister care to explain to him, his children, grandchildren and the generations to come, why he is wrong? First Minister. I hope that Johann Lamont and I can agree on more than two things. We agree, as I remember it just two weeks ago, that Scotland had the potential to be a prosperous independent country. I think everybody agreed with that in this chamber, but let me agree that Ian Wood is an authority on North Sea oil and gas. He is not the only authority, of course. Professor Alec Kemp, Sir Donald Mackay, they are also major authorities in oil and gas, but I think that what Ian Wood has to say on matters should be considered very carefully indeed. Can I just point out to Johann Lamont that the figure that I have often quoted of up to 24 billion barrels of oil and gas equivalent remaining in the North Sea is not a Scottish Government figure at its source. It was the figure that the industry produced, has produced for a number of years and I think is a robust figure. It shows the extraordinary potential that remains in the waters around Scotland if indeed the policies are pursued and the stewardship is correct to make sure that these resources work for the Scottish people. Johann Lamont. There are two things. The First Minister recognised that Sir Ian Wood is an authority, but if he says something that he does not want to hear, he simply ignores it. That is not good enough. Secondly, I would have imagined that Sir Ian Wood knew exactly what the First Minister said about these figures. He is offering a critique that we must address. The First Minister has rightly praised Ian Wood in the past and it is for the public to judge why he disagrees with him now. Sir Ian said and I quote, relevant to Scotland's independence debate is how long offshore oil and gas production will last. He said and I quote, young voters must be fully aware, but by the time they are middle aged, Scotland will have little offshore oil and gas production and this will seriously hit our economy, jobs and public services. So can the First Minister tell our children and grandchildren why Sir Ian Wood was wrong to give them that warning? First Minister. My headline message for the youth of today, get involved, the North Sea oil industry will see you through your lifetime. Ian Wood, BBC 9 November 2012. Yes, of course, Ian Wood is an authority on North Sea oil and gas and he has been foremost in pointing out the future potential of the oil and gas province. Now what Ian Wood, I listened to Ian Wood today on the radio and he said and I think he was right to do so because Alec Kemp is a foremost authority in terms of the modelling of North Sea oil and gas and what remains. He said he'd spoken to Professor Alec Kemp over the last few days and he felt that the figure of 15 to 16.5 billion barrels was an appropriate estimate. Incidentally, that compares with the OBR estimate of 10 billion over the next 30 years and that is 60 per cent higher than the one offered by the agencies of Her Majesty's Government. But he said he'd been speaking to Professor Alec Kemp over the last few days and so I consulted Professor Alec Kemp's website, University of Aberdeen, here I've got it here. That's absolutely correct. Professor Alec Kemp and Linda Stevens, his research partner, have conducted substantial modelling and a potential long-term recovery for oil and gas. It goes on to make certain projections and says that if targeted tax incentives were introduced to economic recovery to 2050, it could increase to 15 to 16.5 billion barrels of oil equivalent. Then it goes on and it's now available at the University of Aberdeen website. But there is potential for further developments after 2050 if other fuels can be rendered economically viable. Professor Kemp and Linda Stevens found at the year 2050 no less than 125 known existing discoveries remain undeveloped. With further progress in oil prices, this should apply to new discoveries for future applications and finishes, thus the ultimate potential of 24 billion barrels of oil equivalent foreseen by oil and gas UK appears plausible. So now we have a point of agreement. 16.5 billion barrels to 2050 and 24 billion barrels as the total value of the oil province. Listen, that's a lot of billions of barrels in Scotland should welcome it. Johann Lamont. Miss Lamont. Well, that will give a lot of confidence to people who are worrying about the future. Because obviously the First Minister said he listened to Sir Ian Wood. He didn't hear or he willfully refused to hear what he was saying. He should reflect on the fact that Sir Ian Wood said that he felt obliged to intervene in his debate because he was frustrated at being misrepresented and misquoted. That is an example, a hallmark of a First Minister's approach to persuading people to support his lifelong political project. Say whatever has to be said to get by the moment but ignore the substance of the argument. In his warning, Sir Ian Wood envisaged far from an independent Scotland exporting energy to the rest of the United Kingdom, Scotland having to import from the rest of the United Kingdom. He said, this preeminent expert as identified by the First Minister said, unfortunately I think Scotland will also lose out on renewables. He added of the oil industry most operators This is about the future of our country. Not the future of our political project. He added of the oil industry most operators would feel more confident if Scotland was to remain part of the UK. Why was Ian Wood wrong to say that in the interests of our children, our grandchildren and the generations to come? I have already pointed out that Sir Ian Wood is on the record saying the North Sea industry addressing the youth of Scotland will see you through your lifetime and he is right to say so because 2050 is not the limit of the oil industry it will go on long beyond that. I am misquoting Ian Wood I have the transcript of his interview this morning I spoke to Alex Kemp two or three times recently and he is pretty clear of the view that right on the 15 to 16.5 billion that I have quoted is probably the right sort of range. That is exactly the point that I was making Yes, Alex Kemp said 15 to 16.5 billion up to 2050 He then goes on to say it will be up to 24 billion if you take the full future resource in the reserve. This poor, benighted country of Scotland with only 16.5 billion of oil up to 2050 worth £1 trillion in wholesale value over that period or perhaps if we go on longer only 1.5 trillion, trillion a thousand billion this poor, benighted country visited with a great curse of 15 billion barrels of oil. Every other country in the world would give their eye teeth for such a substantial resource. So why do the Labour Party and the Labour Party's allies thinking there's a great curse on Scotland and incidentally having 25% of the offshore renewable energy potential of the continent Europe that's also an asset not a disadvantage for an independent Scotland? John Lamont Order Neslamont Benighted country is not it's a wonderful, wonderful a wonderful country that deserves not to have as intelligence insulted by that kind of response it's not a debating point between me and the First Minister it's what a senior person in the oil industry is saying it's about the future of our country so let's review the record over the last two years the First Minister said he had EU legal advice that wasn't true John Swinney nobody here the sun the sun comes to the morning order carry on Miss Lamont it has been established beyond peradventure that that wasn't true John Swinney said he was in discussions with the Bank of England on a currency union and that wasn't true Nicola Sturgeon told the SNP conference in April this year that under devolution that NHS in Scotland couldn't be privatised that is true but now Alex Salmond says it isn't Scotland Scotland Order we'll get through this a lot quicker if they applauding and the jury will stop Miss Lamont this is your last question will you just get to it well we would get a lot let me hope in all optimism you get an answer to the question Scotland's greatest oil expert says independence would be bad for Scotland and he's derided by his own First Minister isn't it the case Alex Salmond doesn't have a plan B on currency he doesn't have a plan B on Europe he doesn't have a plan B on oil the trouble is it's the case that Scotland doesn't trust Alex Salmond because he's the man without a plan First Minister Order First Minister Can I just put on the record that Serene Wood, as I said in the answer the first question, respected authority as is Sir Alex Kemp as are the range of experts like Sir Donald Mackay who have analysed the Scottish Government figures and produced her own estimates which are very similar indeed to the projections of the Scottish Government they say that the UK Treasury has a vision of black gold I've pointed out the 24 billion up to 24 billion figure is an industry estimate it's been used by many many people including the Waitwood review I've pointed out that the first 16 billion barrels is up to 2050 and Alex Kemp the foremost authority on that area of the oil industry says there's more to come and the 24 billion looks entirely plausible but on the question of the health service if John Lamont can't bring herself to agree with me how about agreeing with Unison Unison the Union devolution means they can't run down and privatise our NHS directly from London the way they're doing in England but what they can do is starve it off resources they are cutting back on the money provided to the Scottish Government and putting the Scottish budget under pressure Unison the Union but then of course there is the question of what John asked me about whether or not who's to blame for what I was struck and encouraged and excited by in Davidson's comments of only this week he identified that Labour's failure was the reason for the SNP's success and spoke out the reasons why the SNP have done so well in recent years has more to do with the failures of the Labour Party the lack of modernisation the SNP have become what the Labour Party should have been because the Scottish voters moved from Glasgow to the new towns of Scotland many of them became SNP supporters they didn't want the Tamaray Hall politics of Labour get to the situation that I'm able to quote Ian Davidson against Johann Lamont then perhaps the reality is that the Labour Party in Scotland don't have a plan A never mind a plan B to ask the First Minister no plans Sir Ian Woods is the most respected business figure in the North Sea oil industry and for two and a half years in this debate he has kept his own council he has stayed studiously neutral as he said yesterday he had no wish to get involved I've just heard all the chaff that the First Minister has been firing out on a reflect from Sir Ian's critique yesterday but what I haven't heard and what I'm asking the First Minister is this why does he think Sir Ian now feels so compelled to speak out First Minister Sir Ian Woods wanted to clarify that his opinion was that the oil reserves were between 15 to 16.5 billion that was his likely estimate I'm pointing out that I think that is based on Professor Alec Kemp who points out today in the Aberdeen University blog that that applies up to 2050 there are already oil fields in the west coast which are going to produce beyond 2050 Alec Kemp has identified over 100 oil discoveries that are not in the calculations to 2050 and he and many industry figures believe that therefore the overall value in terms of reserves of the oil province is up to 24 billion which is the industry estimate that UK Oil and Gas have but UK Oil and Gas individual companies here is a briefing from British Petroleum from Tim Smith the Vice President of British Petroleum to MSPs last year 41 billion barrels produced to the end 2012 potentially 27 billion barrels of resource yet to recover production beyond 2050 so if the industry estimate is up to 24 if major companies are saying 27 can Ruth Davidson not bring herself to realise that whether it is 16.5 billion at 2050 whether it's 27 billion beyond 2050 that's many, many billions of barrels of oil and in wholesale terms worth many trillions of pounds every country in the world has an enormous asset why do the Tories in the Labour Party alone believe it's an extraordinary liability with all due respect to the First Minister that's not why Sir Ian says he felt the need at this critical time to speak out Sir Ian has no worlds left to conquer he's not trying to win any votes he just wants the Scottish people to know the facts before they make this irreversible decision now throughout this whole debate the First Minister has twisted facts and ducked hard truths and simply closed his ears to anything that doesn't fit his lifelong obsession of independence but not everybody out there is like that people want to know what is best for their children and their grandchildren so can't the First Minister just have the decency even at this late stage to concede Sir Ian's point that our young voters must be fully aware but by the time they are middle aged Scotland will have little offshore oil and gas production and this will seriously hit our economy, jobs and public services a direct quote from Sir Ian will he not concede it First Minister I think she checks the record even her boss the Prime Minister hasn't said that on the country I already read out Ian Wood's rallying call to the youth of Scotland saying that somebody could enter the oil industry and the North Sea would last him an entire lifetime for goodness sake don't miss quote this is an important argument an important argument about the word order settle down actually get to a position that Alec Kem is cited as the person relied upon in terms of forecast and in his forecast blog today points out there's 125 known existing discoveries which in these estimates will still be undeveloped in 2050 when the clear ridge field is already going to produce beyond 2050 can Ruth Davidson not admit this is a long term business that will be with us for generations to come Ruth Davidson all of the past will know that major figures in the Westminster Government have now admitted they rather underestimated the significance of oil and gas Dennis Healy we underplayed the value of the resource Bernard Ingham it was part of his normal part of to question the value of the resource given the history and track record of Westminster is it not possible that her government with her 10 billion barrel estimate over the next 30 years are doing exactly the same thing given the evidence in the last 40 years then I think most people in Scotland will say let's get our turn of using our natural resources for the benefit of the Scottish people question number 3 Duncan McNeill to ask the First Minister how the Scottish Government will ensure the future of shipbuilding on the lower Clyde First Minister on Tuesday I met with the Ferguson shops I spoke to them again this morning tomorrow I'll visit the shipyards itself to speak to the employees where I'll reiterate the Scottish Government's commitment to the future of the yard and to their employment as Duncan McNeill knows a multi-agency task force has been convened by the Cabinet Secretary it's due to have its next meeting on Monday and I can assure everyone in this chamber the Scottish Government is doing will do everything within our power to ensure the continuation of shipbuilding at Ferguson's Duncan McNeill Can I thank the First Minister for his response and I'm sure, like me, he's encouraged by the number of bidders that I've already declared and I've expressed serious interest in the continuing shipbuilding at Ferguson's and which demonstrates quite clearly a confidence in the yard, the workforce and the future and will be good news in a bad week for the people of Port Glasgow and indeed the Inverclyde community although we all express a very serious regret that the yard with such potential was allowed to close a closure that was brought about by the failure of CalMac and the Assets Management Company CMAIL to place orders for ferries 3 and 4 following the very successful build of MV Hullack and MV Lockenvar it is the state's position and I don't question it of the Scottish Government that they wish to continue commercial shipbuilding on the lower Clyde at Ferguson's is the First Minister confident that his view is shared by CMAIL and CalMac and how will he ensure the requirement for 12 new vessels and the £240 million of public investment will be used in support of Ferguson's and the wider Scottish economy First Minister John Swinney made his statement on Tuesday I did think that Duncan Mee will stop that they are all know in terms of how to analyse this situation there have been substantial orders placed with this yard and substantial opportunity to give them the new generation of environmentally sensitive ferries and we have great hopes that we'll arrive at a situation where that can continue under new ownership Duncan Mee says what encourages me two things encourage me greatly one is the spirit and determination of the workforce in Ferguson's it is unanimous from every commentator around this issue that no one has questioned the skill the dedication the application and the resilience and resolve of that workforce and every single person in this chamber should give them absolutely maximum support that encourages me greatly the second thing is that I was encouraged by the statement of the receiver yesterday because he made it quite clear Blair Nimble that he was moving to an early deadline that offers to be analysed of five o'clock this evening and in that statement he said he was moving to that deadline because he wanted to make sure that there was the chance of a continuation of Ferguson's as an on-going concern he would be particularly looking at holding this workforce together and making sure there are prospects for the future so I think although we are not there yet although there are going to be still be more anxious hours for Ferguson's that we have reason for substantial encouragement and that encouragement is founded and based not just on the determination of this Government and the support of everyone in this chamber but the resolve and the resilience of the shipyard workers themselves To ask the First Minister what the Scottish Government's response is to the final report by the commission on strengthening local democracy First Minister to empower councils, communities to consider the right level for all decisions to be made as we have set out our prospectus for Scotland's island communities Local government will be an integral and essential element of an independent Scotland its status in my estimation can only be guaranteed by a written constitution after independence John Wills Presiding Officer I thank the First Minister for his reply The First Minister is aware that this report follows the previous report in 2012 by the Jimmy Reid Foundation The Silent Crisis Failure and Revival in Local Democracy in Scotland Does the First Minister agree with me that the only way that we can truly get a democratic society in Scotland is by voting yes in the 18th of September to ensure that Westminster Governments do not interfere in the democratic structures that we want to see in a future Scotland First Minister I agree with that position But the point of John Wilson's question I think is very opposite there are a range of vital institutions which could with a written constitution have entrenched protection which are part of the fabric and vital fabric of Scotland That is one of the benefits of having a written constitution We recently had the Commonwealth Games in the city of Glasgow and a fantastic success it was in the nations and territories competing in these games With the exception of New Zealand which has a basic law which is a very important aspect Every single one of these independent countries has a written constitution which preserves and protects the rights of their citizens as well as anunciating free rights I agree with John Wilson that the position of local government would be entrenched in a written constitution in an independent Scotland To ask the First Minister how the Scottish Government's economic strategy will help to achieve the aims of its a growth declaration of opportunity First Minister As I set out in our growth independence offers the opportunity to release the vast potential of Scotland's extraordinary talented population Last week we published our jobs plan for independent Scotland which shows through how independence we can create more and better job opportunities helping our young people to realise their ambitions here in Scotland It does seem to me that while we offer a declaration of opportunity Neil Findlay and his colleagues in the Conservative Party have nothing whatsoever to declare Neil Findlay We now know that the First Minister's oil forecasts are a mere 60% out and that his corporate tax gift to big business would rip £350 million a year from our public services While the First Minister now accept his voodoo economics that would see a separate Scotland with an £8.6 million black hole in its finances Will he apologise to what cancer specialist Dr Anna Greger says is the complete and utter lie about NHS privatisation in the event of a no vote First Minister Well I know it's extremely difficult for the constituency member given his alliance with the Conservative Party to try and reflect on the position that lots and lots of people in Scotland agree with the surge of support for protecting our national health service through independence for Scotland and within a written constitution but he will have taken close attention to the quote that I read out from unison making the point that as the health service budget and public service budget is reduced in England and he surely doesn't believe that privatisation is intended to increase the health service budget in England as that happens it will happen if enforced in Scotland as unison identify through financial pressure now luckily of course the SMP and John Swinney have been in administration ensuring a real terms increase over the last few years in the national health service budget but what has happened in Wales a 3% decline so either we believe that the Labour Party in Wales wanted to reduce real terms spending on the national health service which even I don't believe or we believe that it's been forced by the financial pressure from Westminster so I agree with the Labour Party in Wales I agree with the Labour Party in England that England's privatisation through the Tories is endangering the health service and I agree with unison it's high time the member did as well Question 6 To ask the First Minister what progress has been made in reducing cancer mortality rates First Minister We welcome the figures released by Cancer Research UK on Monday 18 August showing that mortality rates from the four main cancers in Scotland have reduced by around 25% in the last 20 years We're working with Cancer Research UK in a number of areas and we endorse their new strategy aimed at pushing cancer survival in the next 20 years In recent years we've been investing to improve Scotland's cancer treatment infrastructure including £22 million for the new Beatson Centre now being built at Monkman's hospital to help meet the rising demand for radiotherapy treatment over the next 10 years Jimmie Dee I thank the First Minister for that answer While improved specialist care better treatments and fewer people smoking have all contributed to the fall of cancer killers Does the First Minister agree that the health and equality gap between the lowest and highest deprivation groups is still far too high for too many cancers including lung, cervix and stomach cancer and that programmes that help to detect cancer at the earliest stage are absolutely vital to ensuring that everyone in Scotland receives the life-saving treatment they need which only a publicly funded and clinically driven health service can provide First Minister That's why the Government has targeted £30 million investment into early cancer detection through the detect cancer early programme and invested a further £12 million to modernise the Scottish breast screening programme In addition to screening the detect cancer early programme focuses on addressing fears about cancer on recognising signs and symptoms of cancer encouraging people to get checked if they're worried and we know that diagnosis and treatment at the earliest stage helps to improve survival rates That will ensure that every patient who is alive receives timely treatment and follow-up Jimmie Dee mentions the importance of a public health service I hope that everyone in this chamber understands the importance of protecting and preserving our national health service in Scotland It is absolutely vital we believe that that can be done through Scottish independence If there's an alternative route to do it then it better get spelled out but the Labour Party members should remember Davidson's words at this First Minister's questions The SNP have become what the Labour Party should have become First Minister's questions We now move to members' business Members who leave the chamber should do so quickly and quietly


Aloha, my name is Emmie Ortega Anderson. We want to welcome you to Pinoy Power Hawaii. It is our maiden voyage, our first show for our weekly show for think tech Hawaii. We will be conversing in three languages, itaglish, Ilocano Tagalog, and English. First I'd like to thank the whole wonderful staff of think tech Hawaii, especially Mr. Jeff Fidel for extending this invitation to be a part of their wonderful programming. Our maiden show, this is the first program that we will be talking about, it is very very important, our guests today have extended an invitation for Joshua Dela Cruz, he is a guidance counselor. I want to explain to you, it is very important, it is very important, education, so it is very important for us to present the gifts that we will pass down to our children and our future generations. So without further ado, I would like to introduce my guest, Joshua Dela Cruz, he is an educator, a guidance counselor. So welcome Joshua. Thank you so much for allowing me to be part of this, I'll try my best to speak in all three languages, but again, it's an awesome honor to be here. Thank you for allowing me to be part of this. Yes, like I mentioned, this is our first show, and it's really really important that we address education. It was a concern to me, but before we go on, tell us a little bit about how you got started in education. Well, the funny thing is, I'm glad you asked that, because both of my parents have backgrounds in education, they started off as teachers and when they immigrated here to Hawaii, they found their different paths, my mom was in work for the state for quite some time and my dad was in the military and also is now working for the federal government now. So my roots with education definitely was very deep. And for me, I initially started off as a pre-med major at the University of Hawaii, yes. But before that, I used to work at summer camps. I had the background of working with our Hawaii youth, our Episcopal youth through church, and I used to work with our diocesan bishops and everything like that. So I would collaborate with a lot of youth to work with all these teenage programs around the state. So that's my exposure with kids. And as I went through college, the science part was definitely exciting. However, the passion was with kids, and so I shifted from pre-med, and I kind of combined the two, science as well as kids. And I became a science teacher instead. And I started out way back in 2001 at Wai'anae High School. I started out as a... Wai'anae. Yes, yes. So, you know, and... You dove right into it. I did, I did. And, you know, they were the first school to offer me a position, and I was so grateful. And I said, you know what, if they believed in me, they were the first school to offer me that position. I said, you know what, let's go with Wai'anae. And I enjoyed it since, you know. So, going back, sorry, I started out as... For four years, I was a science teacher. I taught chemistry and biology. And then I slowly got into just talking with the kids and understanding where they come from and knowing their frustrations, especially in that age group. And then I started thinking about, you know what, maybe I should start going into counseling. And I spoke with some of my friends who were counselors at the school. And they led me to the right people. And I decided to pursue my master's in counseling at Chaminade University. And that's where I kind of leaped into going into counseling. So, working with kids, definitely, in a direct way. I'm really impressed. No, thank you. I always see Joshua as the kid, being that the father, Tante de la Cruz, is also a part of our Pinoy Power radio for about 10 years now. So, part of our empowerment, we do have a mission on Pinoy Power radio, which extends to our weekly show here at Pinoy Power Hawaii. We aim to enrich, enlighten, educate, entertain, and the big picture is to empower. And you are doing just that. And probably more important, the first thing that I want to do is to encourage people to help, to mold their career, and to give them education when they are adults. So, you know, we are often asked, Joshua, some people are given the choice. Añate de te pilham, de toy cuarta, when no adult education. And I'm sure you've heard that before. A student is or a child from a well-off family is offered like a million dollars, as opposed to spending or getting educated. Because nowadays, education can cost a lot of money. And if you had the choice of just taking the million dollars, or get educated for life, and impact people, and help them, mold them to get better educated, what would that choice be? You know, and I speak for every teacher. I know we don't go into this profession making a lot of money. And I think we look at, it's more of a lifelong kind of thing, and where we see the riches with the kids that we teach, and that we touch every day. Every June, every May and June, we always see a lot of our former students come and see and they share their successes. And for us, that is our million dollars per se. And that, for me, is a lot more fulfilling than just a million dollars at hand. And I think for me, I wouldn't trade that for the world, basically. Wow, I'm really impressed with society molding us to always think about the big dollar numbers and our success. They always measure in dollar amounts. In fact, they often ask, what kind of car do you drive? Where do you live? And right away, you are labeled as being successful because of your monetary wealth. And it really, really touched my heart to hear you say that success is measured on the wealth of people that you inspire, you motivate, or become an idol. And those are your richly rewards, earthly rewards. Yes. And I think you take a look at several of our former leaders and our community leaders. You take a look at, excuse me, Martin Luther King. You take a look at Gandhi, Indira Gandhi. There are those who don't live amongst the wealthy people, but they live within the riches of their heart and their compassion. And that's why I believe that teachers, they are going into this profession and they see this as the most noble profession. And I still see it as today. However, there are several people out there that may not consider it as a noble profession. Or a major achievement. Yes. I think a lot of people would consider that as their fallback. If I can't do this, then I'll just teach that kind of stuff. So for me, I want to bring that back. I want to bring back the glory of teaching, the importance of teaching. And I think we all got somewhere in life because of a teacher. Because of a teacher, not necessarily a formal teacher. It could be a mentor. It could be a big brother, big sister that teaches you something. But the art of teaching and the way, the love of teaching is always going to be there. Wow, that's deep. We were happy to be able to meet with Josh Rocket and Obing Pai, but he didn't watch us for a while. And this is a great opportunity. It's something that someone with a really, really cultured mind. Because you mentioned Indira Gandhi, Martin Luther King. The people who were waiting for Amo Jasua to return in terms of monetary wealth that they have acquired. But the people who were waiting for the return of Martin Luther King being a leader. The people who were waiting for the return of Martin Luther King to return in terms of monetary wealth that they have acquired. And to overcome the challenges of discrimination, the people who were waiting for him to return in terms of monetary wealth. And constantly, the people who were waiting for the return of Martin Luther King to return in terms of monetary wealth, discrimination is alive and well. Even today. Yes. Discrimination is part of being experience in the end, and I'm sure you've experienced those. Yes. One way or the other. So right now, can you just share with our listening audience in Ilocano? I'll sign my best. Yes, the best way to reiterate again is to make it important in Ilocano. Oh gosh, are you going to put me on the spot here? Yes. Yeah, Ilocano skills. You know, I'm sorry. You can mix it. Yeah, I'll add a few in. Just the importance of education, when your dreams, you know, it's always going to be launched on where you want to go and how far you really want to get to that. You can't do that without education. And you can't do that. And I believe that you can do that with the right mentor, the right teacher, you know, and whether it be the formal teacher, whether it be a professor, whether it be a priest, a clergyman, whether it be a professional that you see that you want to embody, that's where, you know, I believe that's where the spark is. That's where... That's the stepping stone. Yes, yeah. That's where the first step is. Yes, yes, yeah. And I think... It's always going to be a conversation, Joshua. We need to take a quick break. And I think this is a very important topic for future generations. Hi, I'm Dave Stevens, the host of Cyber Underground every Friday here at 1pm on thinktechkawaii.com. And then every episode is uploaded to the Cyber Underground. That library of shows that you can see of mine on youtube.com. And I hope you'll join us here every Friday. We have some topical discussions about why security matters and what could scare the absolute bejesus out of you. If you just try to watch my show all the way through. Hope to see you next time on Cyber Underground. Stay safe. Hey, Stan the Energyman here on thinktechkawaii. And they won't let me do political commentary. So I'm stuck doing energy stuff, but I really like energy stuff. So I'm going to keep on doing it. Every Friday on Stan the Energyman at lunchtime, at noon on my lunch hour, we're going to talk about everything energy, especially if it begins with the word hydrogen. We're going to definitely be talking about it. We'll talk about how we can make Hawaii cleaner, how we can make the world a better place.  Even Miss America can't even talk about stuff like that anymore. We got it nailed down here. So we'll see you on Friday at noon with Stan the Energyman. Aloha. Welcome back to Pinoy Power Hawaii. I'm your host, Emmy Ortega Anderson. And again, we want to thank thinktechkawaii for giving us the opportunity to discuss further the issues and topics that affects Filipinos here in Hawaii. My first guest for our maiden voyage is an educator, a guidance counselor. In fact, he is my nephew and I'm very, very proud, Joshua De La Cruz. We are talking about the importance of education and how we can pass on this legacy, how we can inspire others. And I thought about who is the best person to have on my show to inspire others and to share his story. So we're doing just that. Joshua, thank you for being here. Thank you. And thank you for being such a wonderful idol and example to our youth. Oh, thank you. So the next question I'm going to ask you is why. What is Joshua's why as to you pursued education? Well, thank you for asking me that. You know, the education, the art of teaching, I would consider that, I think, the biggest gift that I think that I've been blessed with. The passion for kids. Or just to even teach, just teach, not necessarily kids, but just people in general. Yes. And to just share the compassion and to share the knowledge that I have. I think for me that was, as soon as I got into it, into education, into teaching, you know, I always, I even doubted myself in the beginning. I said, I don't know if this is right for me. You know, it was very stressful working with 30 kids all at one time, trying to just, you know, try to handle all of them. You know, in a short amount of time, you know. Keep them interested. Yeah. Yeah. You're literally entertaining them. Yes. You're literally entertaining them for the good 45 minutes. Yes. Yes. And yes, I found that as a huge hurdle for me to overcome. A challenge. Yes, a huge challenge. And the more that I thought about it, I, just looking at the kids, engage the way they engage, the way they, their sense of wonder. Mm-hmm. As soon as I see that, I go, oh my gosh, this is why I'm here. And I love that. And not only that, too, is that I just, as I realize, as I go throughout these, I've been a teacher for almost 19 years now. 19 years? And you're all 19? No. Wow. Yeah. So, you know, the more that I see it and I reflect back on this profession, I'm like, oh my goodness, these teachers are the most resourceful, most savvy people because they make magic with whatever they have. Yeah. The little budget that they're allowed. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, you have to use a lot of imagination. Yes. Creativity. Yes. Yes. And this is where science comes in. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, it's going to be an opportunity to learn. Whether the whole class learns, whether it's a handful of kids that learn, there's a sense of learning that's going on every day in their classroom. And that's, for me, that's the most exciting part. Exciting. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So. It's a journey. It is. It's an adventure because depending on how you tackle or how you handle a challenging situation, when you present this lecture, or when you have a lot of friends, mothers and sisters, depending on what you're talking about, your imagination is going to be more dramatic so that they will be able to catch on. Yes. Right? The next question is, I know that I was looking at the statistics, Joshua, and there are over 275,000 Filipinos and part Filipinos in Hawaii. Yes. And we make up, I believe, 23% of the population. We are known as the largest minority ethnic group, right? Yes. Right behind the Howlys or the Hawaii. Yes. The Caucasian. Yeah. But, you know, because we are the fastest growing. Yes. As far as the ethnicity mixture here in Hawaii. Truly, it's a melting pot. We are very proud of the fact that the Filipinos keep growing in numbers. Yes. And this is why we need people like you to represent the underrepresented Filipinos. I know we are very well represented in the caregiving or care home business. Yes. I think we are overly flooded with that. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. Yes. So, education, it's important to have an important part of your success. Right. Whether you are successful or not. Some people go on life without having any formal education. No. Yeah. And we will have guests too that have succeeded. But they will do it much easier with formal education and training. Yeah. Yes. Because not all of us are born with that gift to ability, their ability to succeed. Right. Without having some form of education. Right. Right. So, how could you entice or attract the young generation so that they will be thinking of having education as their platformer? Oh, okay. Well, thank you. You know, I guess for me this is an opportunity to sell. Yes. Try to promote education. Yes. If you're a person that just loves, just working with kids in general, and also, again, it's a brand new day every day. There's always going to be an adventure. It's always going to be exciting to just work with the kids and work with them, whatever group that you're working with, just knowing that you're out there teaching them. For me, that's already exciting in itself. Yes. And just reaching out to the community. I think for me, that's the ultimate community service is to teach. And we have so many empowered Filipinos, young Filipinos out there, who are thinking, I don't know what else to do. I'm stuck behind a desk. I'm constantly working nine to five, that kind of stuff. Teaching allows that fluidity. You can teach anywhere, basically. I mean, of course, you have your classroom, but you can take them to places virtually. You can take them to different learning experiences all in one day. Yes. Without having to leave the classroom. Yes. That's the exciting part. You can create plays. You can dramatize a lot of things. You can entertain them. You can create an involved song. There are so many gifted kids out there, so many young people who share so many different gifts why not bring that into the classroom and expose them to so many different things. And there's no better person to do the job than you, Joshua, because you serve as a role model, a leader with so many inborn resources because these are talents that you're born with. Yes. You've got to allow your creativity. And with the remaining time that we have left, I wish we had a whole hour, but what is that legacy that you want to leave behind? I know we talked about it, but please leave that. For me, my legacy is to give back. I'm currently working with the Waipahu Community Association. So give back to the community, whether it be involving community service, whether it be just educating them about Waipahu or the community that I'm in. I'm also working with Waipahu High School and our Student Leadership Conference. So I'm trying to help work with our future leaders. So my future aspirations is always just to give back. Give back. One way or the other, whether it be donation, whether it's spending my time with these kids, whether it be the auxiliary person that people need. Yes. Again, it's a servant. It's being a servant to the community. Wow. For me, that's my legacy. That's your legacy. Yes. Well, you've heard it. A touch of Joshua Delacruz, our educator, guidance counselor who wants to give back, paying it forward. It's just like paying tithing for all the blessings that you have been blessed with. And I want to thank you for being part of our empowerment. Again, I want to reiterate our mission. We aim to enrich, enlighten, educate, entertain, and empower. And today, Joshua Delacruz, an educator, guidance counselor who wants to give back and leave an indelible mark in people's heart with the hope of teaching or being a great role model and a great example to others. And we call that in Pinoy Power Hawaii a big empowerment. That they pinag balaigi. Yeah. Yes. So we want to thank, again, think Tec Hawaii for giving us this opportunity to share our views, share our thoughts with the hope of inspiring and empowering others. So tune in next time, Pinoy Power Hawaii. I am your host, Emmy Ortega Anderson. And thank you again to our guests for today. And you will be seeing him in future segment because he has agreed to help us to broaden our empowerment. Joshua Delacruz, thank you so very much. Thank you. More power. Thank you.