Whoa, whoa, is my mic working? Is it actually working? I don't know sometimes, okay? How's it going everyone? Welcome to the Nintendo Prime Podcast season two episode. Gosh, what is this? Episode 66, we only got three episodes left after today until we have a new season, a little bit of a rebrand and some other things going on on May 1st.  Isn't that right, Jake? Oh yeah. We'll have Andres restart joining us a little bit later. He prioritized something else over us, that bastard, but that's okay. He's got a life. He gets to make choices that are good for him. We're gonna go ahead and go around the room and start the show the way we always have started our show by introducing ourselves. And what have we been playing lately? I'm gonna zoom right over to Eric just because I know he's been playing something. Yeah, still well hunting in Tears of the Kingdom, so. I just realized your name I spelled wrong. No, you know, Moger. It happens. You're Eric. I've been called worse. All right, we'll leave it alone then. I don't care. I hardly know her. I will though, by the way, you guys could do Super Chat to change my name or Eric's name.  Mike, I have no idea. Yeah, we can do it. You can also Super Chat in questions as well for the Q and A section. That's all that works. It's just like $2. I think it's about YouTube. YouTube's the lowest Super Chat. It's a two type anyways. All right, Eric.  I'm just well hunting in Tears of the Kingdom. How's it going? I think I turned, the last I turned in, it was 19 left. And I think I've collected three or four more after it. So I think I got about 15 left. Yeah, that's math. Yeah. Woo. Yeah, man. I can still do it. Eric can math. Yes, I can still do math. Oh, I'm bricked up for numbers. Hell yeah. I don't know what that means. I don't know either. I don't know either. I got a feeling. I don't know that number eight. It's pretty kind of hot. Whoa, boy. I got a feeling Jake may have played nothing in the last week. No, no. Game wide.  I played something. Is it playing someone or something? There's a difference. All right. Let's calm down. I played two games that were both very fun, but one was a familiar favorite. It's a party game. You guys probably know it, Jackbox, specifically Quip Lash. Okay. But then I played another game that I had never played before. And it was like 100 times funnier called What the Dub? You can get it on the eShop for $8. And basically it's kind of like a Jackbox style game, but you watch a movie clip, like an old movie, right? And then it cuts off the line. And so you just hear their mouths moving and every player chooses what the line should be and then it actually does text to speech and fills it in. So it can be like someone's like, how dare you do that to me, Francis? And then I would fill it in and be like, you've got me all bricked up for nothing. And like it actually says it and it's so funny.  So I played a couple of games. There are sounds like a game I need to turn into a drinking game one night and have some fun. Yes, I like this. This is a good idea. I'm gonna have to check this thing out. It is. It's called What the Dub. Can you play it online with people? On Switch, right? On Switch. Yeah, I'm not sure because we were doing it local co-op. It doesn't make sense that you wouldn't be able to do it online, but I'm sure it's better together because you can all laugh together. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. I was thinking about it. What's the maximum?  It's a maximum of four players. But you can have unlimited people join and just anyone after in the fourth can just vote on which was the funniest. So if you're streaming it, you can have everyone watching theoretically join to vote. Sure, sure. Cool. Hey, Jake played something. It's a miracle. As he's got like the biggest game collection of all of us behind him, it's a miracle. He actually played something. I just used that to get laid. Well, you know, whatever works. I was like, will they have to come to your place for that? That's... Yeah, that's it, yeah. Whoa, it's just one step away. It's just one step away. Mike! You going on? What's up, people? What's up, man? What are you doing? What are you going on? I'm in the middle of remodeling the studio, putting a thing, I'm building my fifth set after using my second set for like maybe a week. But yeah, I might have that going on for the shows. It took me a little bit. The show's coming along pretty well, but not yet. But I'm playing Wind Waker on the Wii U. Like I was saying before we were live, I asked if Joe break my system so that I can stop playing with this thing and then I can upgrade to this to play Wind Waker, which is just night and day. I'm used to the better controller. This is so blasphemous to me right now. Yeah, so I'm playing that. I'm playing with the play. We Wind Waker with the Switch with the PlayStation 5 controller. I was going to start Twilight Princess, but I decided to do Wind Waker first to finish it through and then do Twilight Princess after that. But yeah, that's what I've been doing. And I also, I don't have it here, but I'm testing the new screen. It's like a bigger screen for the Nintendo Switch. Nate presented one on the channel like a while back, which is like, it turns your Switch into like an extra large screen, like huge, looks ridiculous sometimes, but for me, it's good. I'm testing another company who sent me another one. So I'm actually enjoying that. I'm doing Animal Crossing on that one to restart my album completely. And so, yeah, just gaming, doing stuff, and stuff, and stuff. Nice. Let's see. So I have been, well, guys, though, I launched a new show this week. So a lot of my times of getting put into the new show, VG News, we got a new show. What does VG stand for? Video game. Oh, really? Oh, I thought it might be different. Yeah, I was going to say, like, I don't know. I don't know what VG is. Oh, man, I was actually interested in that news. Oh, man, I thought, I honestly thought it was vaginosis, genital news. But look, we keep it brief. VG News, use your imagination for what the VG means. VG stands for whatever you want it to. Whatever you want it to be. News is going to be video game related, but that doesn't mean that the title needs to be video game related. Just saying, if it gets you super bricked up, it is what it is. What I do want to, let me see, I've played some stuff. I've been playing Age of Empires 4 a lot because we built a new streaming PC. You guys, a lot of my fan base saw it when we live streamed it last Friday. Eric as well, though he hasn't gotten to enjoy his yet, but he'll get to it eventually. But I've been playing Age of Empires 4 again because it didn't really run that well on my laptop. So it's cool to play it on PC again. That's really what I've probably put the most time into gaming-wise over the last week. I stopped playing Princess Peach Showtime because I'm sorry. I got like four levels, like four deep into it in terms of going up the stairs. And I'm just, I'm like banging my head against the ground. It's just not fun anymore. Like it's- I heard it kind of is not good. Like it's neat at first and you're having a good time and then it just never gets better. Yeah. And it just feels very repetitive and it's just not fun. It's like when you first learn how to masturbate and you don't know about lotion yet. Fair enough. Exactly like that, Jake. Okay, Eric, that's it. Exactly like that. I just, okay. Anyway. Sorry, I forgot where I was for a second. Man, it's rare, Jake makes me speechless. I expect anything to come out of his mouth. Hey, Boarfest. Team dry guy, I respect that. I'm going to cancel it for something. I don't know what it's going to be yet, but. I gave it a clean. I'm giving it a clean. Yeah, real clean.  So, no, I've been looking- I've already done it, mate. So it begins. No. What do you want to do to this mouth? Oh man. I want you to hop on Age of Vampirers 4 and I'll show you a good time. I'll get my spear ready for you. Oh really? What do you mean by that? I guess you have to hop on and find out. Hop on what? Hop on Bob. Wait. All right. Anyways, so I've been playing a lot of that and really just spending a lot of my time with working on VG news. It's been very fun to do, very stressful. It is a lot of research, a lot of script writing and a ton of editing. Which, hey, that's what you do as a content creator, but this is like way more intense than single topic videos. And I'm happy today because today is my third episode I did of it and it's my number one viewed video in my last 10. And so to have my third one pop off like that's pretty cool. And hopefully we just keep going from there. That being said, I've also, I'm happy to report that I've been winning all my Madden games. I got Shador Sanders, got him drafted. Thank you, Dion. Getting the blood going. I'm the Chargers, got rid of that Herbert guy, kicked him to the curb. We got a real quarterback now. Now we're going to win the bowl. Oh, by the way, Travis Hunter, and Shador Sanders on the same team from college to NFL. Yeah, we're kind of tearing it up. All right, that being said, that's all I got. We'll ask about, sorry, I just read the camel.com that you're talking using Bengay once. I just, yep. I'm sorry. All right, Andres Restart will be here, by the way, guys. Whenever he gets here, he said he was going to be late. It's life. He'll show up when he shows up. That's just kind of what he does. Let's get into our first topic. We got a couple of pretty good topics today. And our first one is about Nintendo Switch 2. And look, we'll talk a little bit about franchises we want to see most on it. Like the ones we're most excited to actually see on it from Nintendo. We'll also get into like, hey, why the heck do we think Nintendo is just really staying completely silent about it, especially if the plan is for it to come out in March of next year. There's probably multiple reasons for it, but we'll talk about that. But really, it's back in the news because of a discovery that Mike Odyssey was kind of part of. I mean, he was the one who brought it to the forefront today over the last 24 hours, anyways. Technically, the patent was published in 2020. Out in Europe and national. You know what, you know what, Mike Odyssey, Mike Odyssey, these nuts.  Yeah, you're talking about games right now. Anyways, so the background behind the patent that we're going to get into here is that it originally was filed back in 2021. It didn't have to be a game. It didn't have to be a game. It didn't have to be a game. It was filed back in 2021. It didn't get approved for publication in the United States until April 2nd, 2024. And the April 2nd one included an update to the original publication of the same patent in Europe. And so there's actually more in the U.S. one than in the original European one. But it also shows I win. Yeah. But what's nice about them updated is it shows it's still something that they've been actively working on since the publication of the first patent. It's still actively working on something like this in 2023. Then it makes you think that maybe this is something they're going to use. They might not, by the way, oftentimes patents come out. And if they haven't announced it yet, it could just be like an idea. And it's not going to be exactly the way the patents patent points it out. It could just be they found a better way. But this is the scrapped ideas from all the experimentation. And then they actually have a better one. But whatever the case might be. What I find fascinating about this patent is it deals with the dock. It is something that we have basically not talked about with Switch2 really at all as the dock. And there's a few things about the dock that really matter. One, it's part of the marketing. The dock is going to be on the damn box. So I got to make it somehow look different. And there's lots of ways that could do it. This one in particular doesn't look too different from the front, but it's got a kind of a neat party going on in the back. So why don't I let Mike maybe describe a little bit about what he's seen in the patent. He was the first one to get to it. I'll add in anything I think that needs correcting if there's anything wrong. I don't know. I don't think Mike actually read the entire patent because that's a lot of words. That's a lot of words. I just look at the pictures and speculate to come. 3 a.m. I was up reading the words, but I'll let Mike kind of get into it. And then I'll just add in anything that needs to be corrected. Once upon a time, I was reading Waterloo. It's not sponsored by Waterloo. And so I was at USPTO.com. Just tabbering upon me, right? And doing stuff. And then I saw this pie. Nothing. When I opened it, it was something good. So I start looking at the pictures, forgot about the words. Words don't mean nothing. And so I saw the swivel. That's it. Nintendo Swivel. Forget Switch. The Nintendo Swivel is the name of the next system. But in all seriousness, it basically, yeah, it does talk about the patent. It's a patent regarding the dock. And although I always say it would never, because you guys know I talk about patents a lot. And people who watch my channel, they know I kind of bring almost every single little patent that says something different. I tell people that patents don't tell the whole story, right? Patents say that Nintendo is working on something behind the scenes. They're working. And a patent is just a sign that Nintendo is protecting something they're working on. Whether it be, you know, a screen, a little feature, like for example, back in the day when we saw that patent of that clamp thingy or the where you take away the screen and it looks like a DS or whatever, right? Patents don't tell the entire story. Sometimes the Nintendo basically issues a patent to protect an individual feature of a product, although it mentions a lot inside the patent. They're working on certain sort of like a feature. And in this case, we're talking about the feature for the switch dock where if you look behind the scenes, while Nate shows you that right there, I'll show you my, the switch, the deal. The one we have right now, the switch dock, we have it right here, right? And as you see on that. I had no idea. Thanks, Mike. Yeah. This is the switch dock right here. Yeah. And so look, this little box doesn't swivel. That's not fair. We can't swivel it. But apparently, and, you know, on that, on that pad and you can swivel it, plus it has two openings on each side where you can take this, this part right here, right? And kind of move it to the other side and then, you know, choose on which side you want the ATMI port on.  So basically that's what the pattern is showing. It's showing two ways of doing it. Either they have that little box in the back where you can swivel just the box and then slide it to the side to the opening, right? Or the other side, the other part of the pattern is showing the same exact dock. But instead of just that little box, you actually swivel the entire back part of the dock in order to change where the adapters show. So on this side, you can see there, the two USB ports will be basically, you swivel the entire thing and then it'll be on the other side. This is interesting for me, though, because if you look at this one, it looks like it has more components, more components within the dock than that little swivel thing you would have, like the little box right here, right? So maybe it's just two, they're just killing two birds with one stone. We have two different docks that are coming with the Switch 2, right? I think if they went with this second design, the idea is just to get rid of the flimsy door that always falls off all the time. Use it. So I think it's mostly empty space. It's just... Yeah. But it can also be full of stuff inside. It could be like an external... External GPU? Yeah. Something that can help the Switch camera. I'm going to invite you from the show. External GPU. Can we have a system announced before we start talking about, oh, let's make it more powerful? Right. Right. Or are you on the Switch 2 Pro and wagon right now? Yeah. But, you know, I mean, yeah, Nate said it best in today's episode, on his episode.  Sometimes Nintendo gives us patents that have to do with things that are actually happening in games. Tales of the Kingdom was one of them, where we saw the mechanics before the game came out. And all the mechanics were in the patent. It came to pass, right? This can come to pass? Just like it could be just Nintendo covering something, or it's a patent of something they're working on that's not even completely finalized. We don't even know if the dock will look like this. Maybe this is just them using this dock to kind of throw us off. And maybe they're just... All they care about in this patent is the swiveling. Okay. It's all about the swivel. Forget about the patent looks. Forget about everything else. It's all about the swivel. And so I think the swivel is pretty good. What do you think, Jake? Swivel? No swivel. I don't know. What does Jake think? Hey, Mike. Yeah. Swivel D is nuts. Okay. So that's what Jake thinks. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. I can't swivel that. How exactly would one do that? Exactly. We'll try to do it. You're the one that brought it up. I don't know. Do you helicopter it? Oh, Andreas is in that chat.  Oh, there he is. Yeah, he's ready to go. Oh, there he is. Yeah. I didn't know he was backstage. Hello, there are friends in the front stage. You look so swole right now. It's great. I don't... I'm dead. I'm sure you are. You did a double. Of course you're dead. I'm loving the glow-up for Andreas lately, the last couple of weeks. Yeah. I don't get a chance to like brush my hair or like wash myself. You could. Yeah, but then by the time I'm done, it'll be like... You'd miss the whole first topic, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, my brother is like, hey, let's do a double workout. Oh, you mean three sets. We're going to do four sets. What do you mean 12 reps? We're going to do 15 reps. And I'm like, all right. You're doing so much stuff with your muscles. I love it. Oh, jeez. The thing is with all some of the big brother, whatever he ups it, I'm like, all right, I have to do more than that. Oh, the challenge. Yeah. Yeah. I usually succeed, but there's a couple of things he does better than me. So it's all right. It's all right. Anyways, you know what we're talking about? The swivel. Yeah. I haven't done too much research on this yet, but I saw a couple of things on this. I saw it like Nash Weedle had tweeted about a pat, just like this, like two years ago. Yeah. And then they updated it. They updated the European one too. Yeah. I mean, I first heard it from Mike Odyssey, like yesterday, some people in my channel, like, oh, Mike Odyssey found this patent. And I'm like, oh, okay. It's interesting. I mean, so, I mean, Mike, like, what is that? Fill me in. Like what's the big deal behind the swivel? Is it? Oh, is that the name? Switch. Nintendo Switch. Swivel. I'm on board with it. I don't care.  So if you want your, whatever, I don't know, you know, maybe you can bottom side too.  Like what's the, what's the like practical application of being able to swivel? Like I, I'll tell you the application. Like for example, look, look right now, there's only one way to use this switch. You just have to put the cable through here and then put the cable in there, right? Well, in this, the pattern, this little box will actually be more centered and you can actually move it to each side and even swivel it or just, you know, rotate it, rotate it. Yeah. So this isn't like a big innovation. It's just like a minor convenience thing. Convenience, yeah. They can fit your, your switch better depending on the, whatever sort of set up. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's a neat little thing if true. Yeah.  The OLED one went with the rainbow design. So you can kind of come out a bit on the back as well now if you want. Yeah. Yeah. And on the original switch, you couldn't remove the back. Yeah. You couldn't remove the back on the original one. But yeah, you could. Wait a second. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can. How do you put the cords in, Mike? You can't completely take it off. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. I got you, Mike. This little fucker over here. Sorry, not you, Eric. This fucker. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Um, anyway, I've been called worse. He's like, I just was going off the graph as quick. Cause I know I have free docs. There you go. Yeah. Go ahead and remove it. Yeah. It's not supposed to come off. That's what I mean. I could. You can. Yeah. You can. But it's kind of like, it's kind of kind of like this thing. Like you can take it off, but. Yeah. But you can.  So, um, so, yeah, it's just really about orientation on stuff. I went through the patent to see if there was any information on like the USB ports, like MB and like 3.8. 3.1 3.2 because switch is infamously using USB to even the original doc that has the blue 3.0 ports. It's not a 3.0 jack. Um, it's a lie. Um, and to their credit on the old lab model, they got rid of it and made them all, all USB colored two ports. So, um, it's kind of, it's kind of weird that there wasn't any of that in there. But then I kind of figured as I read more of the patent, it's very repetitive. Uh, it's really just about the mechanism in which you can, you can twist it. And they went with two different styles on this case. You didn't know there was the, the, the one where you could twist the little box inside. And there's one where you can't open up the back. And instead the ports are on the outside edge and you could just twist the entire back. Yeah. Slowly entire back. Now these could just be scrapped ideas and they found a better one that they're going to go with. That is a similar concept. Um, I don't know. Yeah. For example, I could, I could say this, how about I have all the ports on the same side. That would be a better concept to me. So then you don't have to have wires coming out of both ends. If you're using all the USB ports, just saying Nintendo, maybe consider, uh, also maybe go with USB C ports. I don't know. I'm just throwing out there. Anything that gives us faster data transfer would be greater. Better. But, um, anyways, I, I think it's a really interesting concept. Uh, and it, one thing it does tell me, and this is probably going to be true. The switch to in general is whatever is going on with the system is going to be very well thought out. Uh, because Nintendo has shown over time with switcher. They actually do care about trying to create a little bit better experience for people. And I know you guys are going to argue like the e-shop and everything else. I get it. Okay. There's some things they've done nothing to make better, but hardware wise, they've already done a number of quality of life improvements. I mean, think about that original kickstand probably was fine when they initially made it and tested it behind the scenes. But, you know, you put it in the hands of millions of people and that kickstand success. So what did they do? Switch. Oh, they gave us a new kickstand. That's just better. It's just straight up a better kickstand. Um, significantly better. You know, I don't know. They didn't, you know, really do much about joycon drift. Unfortunately. They claimed they did, but it hasn't really gotten better. Um, but did do a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. They added pads and all the joy cons. Yeah. Behind. I said a little bit. It's a little. Didn't really fix it. Just made it take longer to happen, which it's whatever. Because that's a big thing. It is something though. Yeah. I mean, the one thing that they did, they added pads and all the joy cons. They added pads and all the joy cons. Yeah. I mean, the one thing they did do with the joy con was that the original launch one had the antenna on the left joy con for the wireless run up, up under your hand and your, so your hand would block the signal. So you couldn't get more than like four feet from your TV. They fixed that right quick. They're like, ah, no, the antenna should go the other way. Well, no doubt. That's common sense because you shouldn't have the antennas where the signal can get blocked. But for some reason, Nintendo didn't catch that in testing. But they did.  I'm like, all right, time to cover the controller with my hands. Why isn't this not working? Yeah. The antenna is in a bad place. You can fix it with a piece of wire, but it's whatever. It's funny.  And sometimes I'm holding the controller, right? Like a controller is small. I have a couple of joy cons right here. And so I'll have you holding the joy con. My hand basically covers the whole thing. And I might do this, right? Like just kind of cross my arms. And so my entire arm plus hand are covering the joy con. And then the game will stop me. Like, Hey, this controller, like it's gone. Can you like reassign it? Oh my bad. I crossed my arms again. We gotta do a swivel. Yeah. No, they, they, they fix that pretty quick, but all launch launch. Like you got day one launch ones. Yeah. That is what it is. For the record, the joy cons we use when we play sports are not launched day ones. They're probably a couple of years old. Okay. Okay. A couple of years and you were, you know, so like one thing I like about this doc and the, um, the effort they're putting into this new idea to just make things a little bit more convenient is I hope this gives me hope they actually put a lot of effort into things like the next joy cons for the new system. We need improvements. That's like the number one thing I want to see improved on the next system. Like we can talk about the power and the specs and the output and obviously the games and we're going to get to that on this time. We're going to get to some games and stuff, but I just, I, I, the joy cons need work. And if you're going to have a switch to, it's your opportunity to refresh them. You can still keep the old ones compatible if you want. Fine. But give us newer, bigger, better. Literally. There's so much they could do.  Does anyone else have this problem? Switch OLEDs. This ever happened to you?  The controllers randomly disconnect when they're on the side. I've never had that happen. I use my OLED a ton. Yeah. It happened to a person that got a prize from us as well. I think Lily Young says it's happened to her too. It seems to be something when you Google other people are having this issue. Honestly, it's like a skill issue. A skill, yeah. Skill is like, I think they're designed to do that if you're really bad at games. You play so bad that the controllers said they want to quit. So I'm on the home. I just pressed the stick to go over and it disconnects. It was just a bad skill issue. I hit the stick the wrong direction. Yeah. No, it knows. It has your history. I should have used the D-pad. That was the problem. My bad. But not how bad you are. Yeah. Anyways. So I've had that issue. When I Google online, it looks like a lot of people are having that problem. But I think not everyone. People aren't good at games. I know what I mean. No, no, no. I think that particular issue might be because Nintendo is multiple manufacturers and there could just be like one particular place. If I was Nintendo, I would send the shitty switches to Wisconsin as well. You know, the funny thing is the switch all that I'm using didn't come from Wisconsin. Where'd it come from? California. Yeah, that too. I should have said Boston. I don't want to lie around it. You know how you fix that issue? You don't upgrade it. Hey, the screen is nice. OG, baby. Dude, the screen is nice.  Once you've seen an OLED screen, you don't want to go back. Anyways. To be fair, I did not have Joy-Con connection issues when they're on the side of the system on the OG. Anyways, so that's kind of that. Do you guys have any other opinions you want to give on just Nintendo in general? Kind of making these potential hardware improvements or at least thinking about it? I just think Nintendo is doomed. You know. Doomed. Just doomed. There's no hope. They're always being obliterated by the competition. I mean, Xbox and we come on. Have you seen like? Xbox, man. Xbox a little bit. You don't want to risk your over on the show. Xbox is the only game I'm actually kind of excited about. What's it? Stellar Blade? Yeah. It destroys Bayonetta. Oh, for those that don't understand my sarcasm, I'm completely. I'm being completely facetious. Like I think Bayonetta is hype as hell, but also I'm kind of, I actually am excited for stuff. I didn't even play the demo. I've just seen gameplay. I think it looks awesome. Dude, the demo is fun. Yeah.  Like what they've accomplished with the jiggle physics. My God. I heard that like actually the combat, if you're playing FF7 rebirth, it's like a seamless transition. Interesting. To go from that game to that game. I just don't know, man. There's just too many games for me to play right now. Yeah.  I suggest at least checking out the demo. It's fun. It's not super long. I want it. I want the game. I want the game. And not just because she's hot. What is it on? PS5? Yeah. It's funny. Not just because she's hot. Don't even feel guilty. Her model is based on a real person who's a model who wants people to think she's hot. So it kind of all goes together. I mean, I don't have to feel guilty. I think Pyro's hot. I think people like, I don't think Pyro's based off anything real. She's just like, she's Pyro. She's literal fire. There you go. There you go. So yeah. Other things I wanted to get into on this topic. Since we're talking about switch to, it's been a little bit. I've been watching some videos, some of Andrew's videos, some of some other videos, people still talking about switch to. I know what why are people still talking about switch to? You just watch VG news where you barely get switched to talk. No, I'm just kidding. There's always a little bit of switch to today. We always, is the only thing the algorithm allows you to do. You should have like a, like a counter like day since switch to has been mentioned. Yeah. Listen, I want to be, I'm going to be completely honest. It's the only thing the algorithm allows us to talk about everything else. Thanks. I just agree. I just agree. I just agree. You can also talk about Nintendo Direct. You can talk about the round here. You're right. You're right. Direct and make yourself movies. Other movie and direct. And then that's it. I don't think so. I mean, I don't know. Maybe for you, you're going to get over 10,000. I'm like, okay, look Nintendo switch to is in my title today and it's my number one performing video. So it like it is what it is. It's, hey, hey, I made a video today that I thought was pretty unique. I'm pretty excited about it. I like it. I saw a video in weeks. That's Andre. That's Andre classic Andre and the video. Hey, that sounds like the news I dropped on Monday that was 10 out of 10 and I'm like, Oh, was this a bad idea? Well, so there, but what needs to be understood though, right? When like we're making content, like there's, there's stuff that's going to have like immediate impact or there's stuff that's going to have evergreen impact, right? And so the video I uploaded today, hopefully, you know, if you guys watch it, it'll have evergreen impact. Right? Like, so like it's not going to be like my number one video, right? It's not going to hit seven to 10 K in like a day or two, right? But hopefully over time it builds up and reaches like a new audience. Right. And for those that don't know, this is me where I'm, I'm, I'm shamelessly plugging my own content. I see your video now. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, stop shamelessly plugging yourself. Oh, whatever, man. I already did it. I'm already doing it. But it, I decided to talk about like the psychology of link as a mute and I want to make this a series. Like I want to, I disagree with the title though, because I don't think it's a mute. Well, watch the video and then watch the video. I'm just messing with you. I saw that video. Okay. Yeah, I did. Thank you. Yeah. But I mean, the point is though, it's like looking at different Nintendo characters and like, okay, is there something about them that somewhat applies to like a real life condition. And so I have different ideas for different Nintendo characters. And I think it's fun, but that's not something I think it's a very, I think it's a unique concept, but it's not going to do well, at least not immediately. That's just because the algorithm will just say no. I had switched to in the title. Nope. Or the other act or direct. Yeah. Nintendo directly things that link is me. Geez. Wow. So, yeah, no, it's kind of like you was two inches. Yeah. No, I kind of like this. So like, like me with VG news, the idea was that I'm not reliant on there always being big Nintendo stuff to talk about. And it's a slow buildup of a new type of show with a new audience that also, yeah, we'll obviously pop off when there's big news. And by the way, guys, we're still going to do individual Nintendo video news when there's big topics to talk about. It just so happened, like Mike's video, I caught it late last night. So I was like, you know what, I'm just going to put this in VG news instead of rushing out a video in the middle of the night. It just made too much sense because I was already working on a video. Oh, I got a video idea. But oh, man, I can't say it. I can't say it because once I say it, I got a video idea. And I think it's something that no one would ever expect me to do. But I think it would. Hey, coming around to the oldie fans, huh? Oh, it's related. I'm leaving the new genre altogether. People know I'm leaving the new genre together. So, guys, good luck with news. Hey, but you had the patent. That's news. The Mike Odyssey show is different, the different show. And when is the Mike Odyssey show happening, buddy? I'm building a, I'm, I'm still waiting on a, I'm waiting on a, a sponsor who's actually providing me with a, an entire wall, which I'm, I'm replacing the wall to make it like wood. And so there's a, there's a sponsor who's going to give me the entire wall material. It's some way to rebuild everything up from, from scratch. So that I can create an actual. Just get a sponsor that would just build my house for me. That'd be great. Right? Right. But I'm waiting for that to come through so that I can go ahead and rebuild that and then start. But, yeah. So turn to this conversation back to switch to before we lose our entire audience. We just got some saying switch to and Nintendo directs. The only thing you can talk about and what are the topics for today's switch to and Nintendo direct. Yes. Which means I can't really run these top, you know, we'll probably find a way to rerun these topics next week in a different way. Maybe because Nintendo will announce a direct. That would be great. If we get, if we get an indie world announcement soon, that would be, that would be, he's probably correct in a direct scum. But what also rumors aside, typically when there's an indie world, that is kind of like the, it's like the groundhog to like, you know, yep. And we have reason to believe in an indie world. We'll get into that. That's on our next topic, but I want to talk about the switch to stuff for a moment here because, um, let's start with this one. Like what franchises from Nintendo do you really want to see on switch to like, what do you think needs switch to that's going to like blow our minds? Cause I kept thinking like, Oh, the 3d Mario, but I'm like, you know what though they probably could put it on switch and it'd be just as good in my mind. Like, I don't like Mario. Okay. All right. All right. First off, I disagree, but let me just to speak to your idea. Right. I was actually talking about this in my live stream yesterday. So specifically for Zelda, actually again, all their other shameless plug last week, I made a video talking about the potential of Zelda on switch to, but all you can talk about, I'm sorry. All right. That's what you got to do as a content creator. Well, you got to remind people. I maybe got this idea from watching your video. Did you? You might have. I don't know. Anyway, so this is, this is what I wanted to say though, right? So like with Zelda, right? Like during the GDC panel, they kind of expanded more on this concept of multiplicative gameplay. And they talked about how they took the time to make every item in the game physics based, which is probably why we had to wait six and a half years for the game to come out, even though it's a direct sequel. And well, maybe that's the reason why some people aren't as excited for tears of the kingdom because it feels very samey. The underlying structure of the game has had so much work done. And when you really kind of think about it, it's kind of mind blowing because it's, if the physics go beyond just the items, but like the audio of the game has, has a physics based engine as well. And so what the Zelda team has been building is essentially a living breathing simulated world, like more so than prior games. And so that's what the established for switch, but imagine if they were to continue to build upon this for switch too. And I was talking about this as a brand. I don't fully understand these concepts, but I'm familiar with somewhat with the idea with like, you know, like ray tracing, like, yes, it helps lighting, but also apparently ray tracing can also help sound effects as well. Yes. But, and so that's kind of interesting thinking about like how they can kind of build upon like, not just like visuals, but also audio on the next Zelda game with ray tracing, but you also look at like what they're doing with DLSS. That's literally AI, right? AI upscaling, that's going to improve things, but going beyond visuals and audio, right? Like this can directly impact gameplay as well. So I remember there, there's a, there's a, there's a couple of games out there that they're sort of experimenting with AI for NPCs, where literal, you know, non-playable characters, like you'll have a character and you can talk to them. And the way they react to you is organic. And it can, it's also dynamic because it's an AI, it's an artificial intelligence that will react to what you say. Say it again. I'm saying it thinks it's alive. It thinks it's alive, or at least it responds as if it were to alive. It thinks. That's the thing. It thinks and it reacts to what you do. So imagine a Zelda game that has NPCs built with an AI or physics based system, kind of like what they've done with the items and the audio. All of a sudden you get, just going back to this idea of multiplicative gameplay, every system they put in place that reacts to you dynamically. And then you layer another and another and another. It's no longer multiplicative gameplay. It's exponential gameplay. And so what this causes is just a variety of different possibilities. And then the fine tuning of the Zelda team is to execute this in a way where it feels like Zelda. It still has that Zelda essence, but there's, but it also doesn't break. And it just offers so much different ways to play a game. So imagine Nintendo building on this physics based gameplay, this multiplicative gameplay, introducing AI with the lighting, with the audio, with the NPCs. And imagine like Madura's mass level side quests, but dynamically and uniquely in a massive game. Like just how amazing that would be. It's mind blowing. Now, is that what they're going to do? We don't know. But it's perhaps more possible, more feasible with newer hardware. Yeah. I mean, there's always been a really bad form of AI in video games. It's how a lot of NPCs are controlled when they have like so many of them in games like Skyrim and stuff, but they're always very simplistic, like super, super simple. The way the, the one positive use for AI in general is just making characters feel alive in a video game. And just the infinite possibilities because of that. Cause they're going to make every play through a unique experience to each individual person. And that's awesome. I can't wait for the game to actually does that because it hasn't happened yet. I mean, that, that's a potential. In Spider-Man 2, there's, there's, I think there's a, there's a higher level of AI than there is into the kingdom. And so when you go through the, through the, through the city, there's the NPCs are actually on a route doing something like in a rotation that feels like the program to do that. And you can actually stop them from doing that. Don't react to it. Even when you swing by and you kind of land it on place, you see everybody reacts to, to, to what Spider-Man is doing at the time. When you walk through the, through the people, they actually react and talk. They want to kind of, they want your attention. So it's like, it's, it's, I can see where you're coming from. It's like, it's like playing God with, with Zelda in a way. You know? It is interesting. Like, I mean, there are games that have sophisticated, you know, MPC actions, right? You look at like the Elder Scrolls series, they have their own set of chores and activities that they have to accomplish day to day to day. And, but you can still kind of get in the way of that. And so there are some sophisticated things that have been done with games, even going back to the still Legend of Zelda and Majora's Mask, right? Like they have the, it's, it's obviously it's, it's a smaller scale and that's how they were to accomplish it back on the N64. But they do a series of tasks day to day. Now it's a three day cycle, right? The game takes place in three days. It's not like an infinite amount of days, like most games are, but there's a lot of really interesting things that happen because of that. So imagine that on a grander scale, but you've done through like an actual system that they put together that's some combination of physics and AI. Like that would be, I think it would be insane. Grand Theft Auto 6 probably does it. I would love a Zelda game with, with, with at least three alternate, alternate endings and depending what, what you do throughout the game. And we know adding AI to it, you can actually lose, you can actually, you can see the ending and lose, but it'll give you the ending of Ganon winning and the repercussions of that. Right? They're going to do this in awkward time remake. Yeah. Yeah. What if, what if they could? Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. Because it's, it's a story. Yeah. It is three different splits, one, three different endings. I'll be awesome. I'll be good. Yeah. I actually won a Zelda game where there is like you know, there's a post game. Because typically when you do a Zelda game, you beat the boss and then you can just do it. You go back to before you've had to beat him, instead of seeing how people react after. Yeah. Like what I would prefer is, you know, if he wants to go to replay boss fights, just have a boss rush mode. Yeah. To have that. And what I think is really cool when there's an, when there's a final secret boss, because when there's a final secret boss that's optional, that gives you the opportunity to have like that final boss that's extremely difficult, but also, you know, it's still, it's something that's optional. So for those that want to be able to like fully realize the story, they don't have to fight that boss. Like, I mean, we see this in different games. Metroid, other M has it. I think I want to say, I mean, Elden Ring is a hard game already. So, you know, but there is, there are, there are some very important, but also optional boss fights in that game. So it would be cool to see something like that in Zelda. Hmm. So Zelda is the one that he really wants to see. I want to see Animal Crossing. We were the same AI that, that he's imagining. Well, yeah, actually, actually the game that I had in mind is basically an Animal Crossing clone, but all the characters have, um, yeah, they're, they're AI driven. Yeah, exactly. And so you can like write different like props to them and they respond. Nintendo is rolling in his grave right now. He was here in the chat earlier saying, an Animal Crossing game with, with, with, with more emotion, with more, uh, live characters will be interesting because right now in the Animal Crossing, I like, I like the fact that you can be days without looking at them or talking to them. You go back to them, they'll tell you about it.  Um, you know, so an AI, expanding Animal Crossing, I think if they take the, what I want to see for, for Switch 2, I want to see Animal Crossing take everything that was made good for Animal Crossing, the, the inviting villagers over, um, the, uh, basically the terraforming, kind of all the customization you could do with that game, but add more villagers, make them more intelligent. Um, and then have the ability to invite friends to your island so that you can terraform with them. Um, give them that ability so that you can kind of maybe, you know, create contests, best island, best city, best whatever, right? And things like that, you know? Yeah, so to be clear, like, I hate, like, the typical AI utilization. Like, I think it's just, it's an insult to, to, like, creativity and artists, and it's like, it's used, like, as a stopgap. Like, I don't, I don't like those things, but, you know, it can, that doesn't mean it's all bad. Like, it would come down to how it's used. And in the case of, like, Nintendo EPD teams, they would use it as a tool to further expand, but it would be highly catered and done really well, right? It wouldn't be, like, just think about, like, what Nintendo's done with Tears of the Kingdom and all the mechanics involved. Like, there was a lot of testing and polishing that went into everything that can be done there. So that's what I'm kind of coming, like, when I'm talking about, like, these, like, myriad of possibilities with advances in technology, it would still have, like, that, you know, very careful hand crafted, sort of, you know, designed to it. It wouldn't be, like, an easy rush job at all. I changed my mind. I want papers, papers of the... I mean, you could do both. Well, this is the way, this is the way I look at the AI. Like, there's AI that people that companies could use to help them program and make games. And there's the AI that is just what is built in order to control the characters inside the game. And video games have been doing that for a long time. It's not actually a new concept for it. It's just never been as advanced as it possibly could be today. And I literally think, like, Grand Theft Auto VI is going to be one of the first major games really using a very complex AI with all the NPCs and everything. So, um... This isn't, like, 100% that YouTube uses every month or that we're talking about. This is a very controlled AI that's only going to do what they want it to do, but it'll have a lot of possible decisions and branches that everyone can wild. If in Grand Theft Auto it gets so complex that you could have a random side character that's not important at all, right? Let's say she's just a random prostitute, right?  Because you can do that in Grand Theft Auto and she grows to spite you from that moment. And even though she's just a side character, she grows and develops into becoming the ultimate mob boss. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You could've went with a more friendly example in the game. We're talking about Grand Theft Auto. There's not just prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto. Listen, listen. You can take the asking from a little kid and then that kid becomes the boss later on. Jeez. Anyway, it's fine. It's GTA. It is what it is. I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about with that next year, especially if we find out it's coming to Switch 2. A lot of people think it's a long shot. We'll see. Don't really know. That being said, is there any other games that you guys, like from Nintendo, like just a franchise you think would really benefit from being on just more powerful hardware? Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg, baby. Tip of the iceberg. Where should we go next? Well, I don't know. Jake, do you got one? For what? See, he's just not paying attention to the entire issue. I'm paying attention to the chat, all right? Yeah, I was reading the name change. Hold on. I kind of got sidetracked because Andre's talking a lot about Zelda. Is it just like a Switch 2 prediction in general? No, it's not a prediction. It's what Nintendo franchise do you really want to see on Switch 2 because it's a more powerful system? Like, what game do you think would benefit from it the most? Franchise. He's going to say Zelda.  Honestly, it would depend on Nintendo's online infrastructure, but like games like Smash, I guess, like online multiplayer games that have been known to have a lot of lag. I would like to see better performance with that kind of stuff. I mean, it's like, I think games like Zelda and Mario, I don't think, well, here's a kingdom, I guess could take advantage of a more powerful system, but like Mario is always going to be that cartoony art style. You know what I mean? It's always going to be pretty much like a good running game. So it's like, does it really need to take advantage of it? Like it will, because it's Nintendo. It's a first party Nintendo game, but it doesn't like need it. So it's tough for me to think of one that like actually could like really use it. I got it. I guess I just don't look at it from a graphics perspective though. Like just think about like, like that's why I brought like Zelda because they've been focusing on building physics and that's really intensive. Yeah, you had a good argument. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So like, you know, like what, like for Mario, like what could they do? I agree with you smash though. Like the like smash needs a better online infrastructure. So switch to kind of supports that. That would be a big difference because I never play smash online.  Right. Yeah. So I mean, I totally agree with that one. Yeah. I mean, it's tough cause like, yeah, you're right. Like a lot of these games, not necessarily graphics. They could take advantage of it, but it's like, which one really needs it the most? It's like, I don't know. I guess like maybe it's a cop out answer, but I'm just like excited for all the, their first party IPs. I mean, I think they all can, can see significant benefits from more powerful hardware. Yeah. The answer is like, you know, some of their dormant IPs, that they, it's been a long time. It'll be really exciting. Cause that would actually be like a leaf. If they haven't been on the Star Fox music. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't have the Star Fox music. Yeah. Sorry. I don't have it. Hold on. I literally am streaming for a brand new PC. I don't have like any of my music right now. Hold on. I spelled it wrong. So I'll give you guys one. This one to me is super obvious. Xenoblade. Yeah. Yeah. Or anything monolith soft is working on. When you want me to cue the Star Fox music. Let me know. Just go for it. Whatever. I just put a little YouTube video. I don't know if it's going to lag or not, but. We'll find out. We'll find out. It's going to share the audio. Just call us. As long as you have the audio set to come through. Also share top audio. The tab is blue. So I think that's good. Thank you. Got it. All right. Cue the Star Fox music. The Fox could be like the best game ever on Switch 2. Imagine like open worlds, face battles. It's constantly online. Right. Like you can do everything you do from the prior games. But it's just all like seamless. You're flying into play. You're flying out. There are big cities you can explore on foot. Yeah. It's just awesome. There's just so much you could do. Hey. Basically what Microsoft tried to create. Let's see some bricks in the chat. If you've ever made love to the Star Fox game song. Okay. Or if you're going to now. Okay. So basically what Microsoft tried to do with Starfield and failed. Oh, Starfield's boring. Star Fox would just be like the greatest thing ever. I agree. An open galaxy game. Yeah. So, you know, like that's just thinking like the most complicated thing they could do. But there's so much directions that can take Star Fox. All right. I'm kind of tired. I'm going to stop this. Kill it. Kill it. Yeah. Dude, it's great. I wish I had that set up for the back end. Yeah.  If you play it from the actual back end of stream of stream yard, it plays perfectly. And it doesn't. The mic's up. Eric needs a hat. I got flat. Those are those like flat, flat top money of those. Would you like me to fully transform him? Because you are now RGT 85. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you got to draw. The grumps, the grumps. The grumps. The grumps. You know, I don't know what's going to happen. You know, because he loves those flat bill hats. I wonder about the Xenoblade though, because I actually think this, but your arms are like this and they kind of. Like you think about Xenoblade, right? Like Xenoblade 3 was already pretty. I'm actually a good impression, Mike. Yeah, like I already know exactly how he sits. Do you know what grind my gears? Do we talk about? Huh? Who are we talking about? RGT.  Yeah, if you're right They should take cues from the gamefreak in the Pokemon company clearly, I Mean the grace advocates taking advantage of others. I think game preachers dedicated themselves to making smartphone games Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo Was it easy EPD or whatever? through the Pokemon games Andre, so you take advantage of Mike? This is like going in a weird direction Ideas on Why Nintendo is just saying like absolutely silent about switch to like I have I have a theory an idea Sure My sailor share it So basically what I think is I think so it's I think that this whole 25th thing is I wanted to collab with you Jake by two in my mind We've already collabed now. Well, I had a really good collab idea. He would have been like, oh, yeah, that's a fair I Would have been so bricked up. All right, let's do it Don't get me casual by saying Arrested You did say it's a collab is it a live stream? It's not live Great. I just found out what that means. It wouldn't be live.  Yeah, just before that before that we went live Yeah Andre's using it wrong anyway, so Swiss to I think Nintendo is silent because Swiss to is not coming in 25 Swiss to is coming in 20 24 Mmm, I think I think we're about to get a big blowout presentation To the trailer event and then hopefully an October release. I think this is switch to a year Okay, I mean why else while why else are there so quiet and then there's you know the last game We get we're getting it is paper Mario and I'm sorry. We just mentioned in June then we have May with ocean that oceans see well game and and and the other the other All the same right endless ocean luminous Ocean series the first to being on Nintendo Wii You have to say hey, I rest my case.  It's not gonna sell a lot We know it's not most people watching. I mean, I shouldn't We all know a lot of us know but most people in the world don't think it's even in a Nintendo game People don't even realize what it is Third-party showcase. I was I was disappointed that it was an Nintendo IP. I'm like, it's not gonna do better than that Come on. Hello. There's no What? I got Mike.  Thank you. You good, but I'm walking movie You got you got you got you guys pumps in before for the show. Yes, there's nothing left and I'm done. I couldn't Yeah, I don't even ask him to do a curl of a five pound weight right now. You might just break his arm off Well, we didn't do biceps. So, okay shoulders We did legs and legs legs and chest. Oh, yeah legs of the focus, but Just I was going more like head shoulders knees and toes. Yeah, I prefer back. I like up the abysmal Okay, what is going on right now? I don't know. We're like not even talking about anything Do what he keeps getting interrupted I want to hear about how the switch choose coming on in October Please fill me with the copium listen Listen Nintendo switch to coming out next month They reveal the that that big event and then they'll have presentations over the over the summer kind of you know Revealing here and there and kind of you know being on stage Presenting their game. I think it's the best time because if they reveal next month, right? Then they have the entire summer to present to just focus on games games are going to be the switch sellers, right? the big Mario game that metric prime for game that people been talking about that doesn't exist as a myth Don't believe it at you know and and I think it's the best time to kind of position the Nintendo switch in all its features Especially the swivel, you know so that we have a good holiday turn out not only with games, but also with with you know With that with the swivel. I will give you one thing that might support 2024 There is literally nothing from Nintendo scheduled past June. Yeah. Yeah Oh Yeah, we just mansion We just mansion is June. Yeah If you guys think all the rumors are right all the time Yeah, we just mansion is in June. It's the last game that there's no house plan And what I will say because I want you to be right So badly Yeah, and you know, it is interesting that This doesn't say this is it doesn't really say that switch choose coming up this year But what I think it does say right when we look at how Nintendo could have Write out paper Mario and Louise mentioned to but instead hasn't come out both in the first half It does save the Nintendo has a plan for a second half They're not gonna just do nothing They're gonna have content the second half now I'm willing to wager that the second half is gonna likely be more significant than the first half You know that but there's a lot of variance there that could be just a little bit better It could or it could be the switch to with 3d Mario Metroid Prime 4 we'll we'll see but uh Yeah We need more evidence. They're building up to something They're building up to something because I this is the most we well, I mean, I guess in the past We know that Nintendo has been silent for a while, but you know, it's like it's like the calm before the storm We're building up to something and then they're gonna get kind of reveal it There's another thing to consider right just kind of go speaking on this point. I Mean we all thought 2024 made the most sense and if it wasn't for the latest reports We would still think by 24 makes the most sense We would actually be like we'd be like 101% like if it wasn't for the reports for let's pretend they'd never happened All of us here would be oh, yeah, like a 110 percent switch she was gonna get announced any minute Only a thing through June. Look at my analysis bad boy. We're launching this holiday We'd be so convinced the only thing that's happening is not convinced is like the myriad of reports from all of the reputable Atlas which is pretty compelling But they were wrong initially because supposedly there was an internal delay But what's interesting is that from the speculations that have been thrown out about why the system was delayed be it made because of the the the yen or getting harder ready or content ready like there's all of these little things like theoretically Nintendo keep like, you know what let's actually Release it in in 2024 like they could change their minds to go forward that doesn't typically happen It's really rare typically when you change Manufacturing and stuff like they have to make yeah at some point. So that's we don't mention in a podcast Behind the game suspense podcast happened like well weeks ago. I tried everything on Twitter that Backwards compatibility was gonna be heavily Promoted as the main one of the main things for Swiss to and so if you if you have backwards Compatibility AI upscaling with that, you know Well, you already have a huge library of games on switch to day one with the bad backwards compatibility You know, they have to would have to focus on launch day or let launch month within the next three months is two or three games They don't need a huge library of games. Of course bring in third-party Games as well port games that are out there already into switch like Elden Ring, you know Well, that's by the man that's exclusive, but um, you know other games out there and bring him to switch and What did the Nintendo switch had at launch? one to switch and and Birth of the Wild and what else was in the next Stipper clips came out. Yeah Superbomberman are Turn around I had every single launch game. So it wasn't it wasn't them the biggest biggest library of games, right? And this is Without backwards compatibility for You and so with this this one having backwards compatibility and and I'm gonna play tears of the kingdom again When it comes out on switch to with that AI upscaling I want to see how that game works and in the fields, you know then and of course Pokemon skull and violin I'm pretty sure a lot of people are gonna try to play then although that's not a that's not a System issue it's a People issue, but um, you know, it It I think that switch to is better positioned than switch What one was when it came on 2017 and so I don't think they need this huge library They can they can give us a timeline of Coming out for the next year You know for the first year of switch to but when it comes to the launch of switch, too I think they have everything they need to kind of just you know Bring it out there. Why did why did Mario come out after they that first trailer? Mario us came on October 2017 after that first trailer Yeah, so although back then there were so many was they were like, oh, that's just like a tech demo or something You know they can show us games that's really coming out, but they can present shows games have one two three Two three games have ready at launch and then have a lineup of games So I think that Backwards compatibility is nice. I I don't think it's ever been a selling point to buy a system I think it's just makes people who have a switch currently more comfortable getting a system earlier than maybe they would Otherwise get it, but they still want aren't gonna buy the system unless there's a compelling game That makes them want to buy it. Yeah, that's the thing switch had Switch had Breath of the Wild. It sold more copies of the game than systems existed at launch That was the killer. That never happens that you saw Exists what if what if they don't know what the launch title is yet, but then do we you also have breath of the Well, I think that's just you still trying to ponder and hold hope for Metroid Prime 4 to be a launch game It is it could be long We you have we you have breath of the wild just like killer app that they know will sell I understand that so what if they show Metroid Prime 4 this April and They realize they see the level of attention Or that game at that point like oh, you know what maybe this would be Be a big deal Yeah Why are they launching the next system with Kirby Kirby's outsold metroid franchise? So hey listen a game that compared to Metroid Prime 4 is uh, yeah, I don't want to I don't want to start an argument I don't know why you're giving that I'll look forgotten land is the best selling Kirby game ever and it's outsold every Metroid game Yeah, right, but I think you're you're oversimplifying the I don't really think so because they care about sales. I do care about sales, but it's You need a point of a gem at launch you got to have something proven sure print but uh proven system mover I Understand like they they reveal it and the hype just seems really big but online hype can be very deceiving for this game sales if Pre-orders can also factor in the equation. Well, sure, but they'd be coming That'd be where you get your pre-orders from I Listen listen. This is me. I agree that the launch title 3d mario seems like probably going to make the most sense but Not necessarily well sure sense. They kind of just announced the new Mario movie They can tie marketing together. We see what's happening here. They're already lining it up Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, if not for that movie with the mario movie six Yeah, I Think the target is 2026, but that maybe even had a month Yeah, we could hear about it, you know in early 2025 And it's not a sequel. It's it's it's a donkey Kong game Yeah, we or we if we don't know that for sure Mike. I know for sure. Well, you got an inside source on this I got it It's not your game. So it's not it's not not Kong movie I want to say three things and you guys I'm gonna mention three things and then you guys and come back to this podcast, you know for for verification when it does happen It's a donkey Kong Movie mario and louis you're gonna be there because it's the same universe and also there's the two characters We're gonna be at is while we do and while we go All right, I will tell you this mic Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Well, no quick thing quick thing. Let's say this mic.  It was four dungeons, right? Yeah, well, I mean, there's that sort of a fifth dungeon, but you know, I was gonna say I don't know Why four main dungeons the fire the water the thingy and the thingy and then the other one was like an extra The the extra one where you when you found, um What's your name? Um, what was it really extra? Minoru, it was What just went down was pretty extra. I don't know jake left his camera on feel like there's Minoru is Without Minoru, well you Yeah, but and then they have like uh, like uh, like uh water fire, whatever Um, you know It was some of them. It was spirit. It was a fifth. It was a fifth dungeon Technically But there wasn't a dungeon It was like Right, she came out of this like wall thing walking out. It was more like a dungeon in small pieces spread out throughout the depths Okay, so yeah Like all the other dungeons were like a dungeon spread out throughout different sky islands I'm referencing a literally the zora dungeon. That's literally just a bunch of sky islands All internet go on one was just in the depths as well Yeah, the gora mom was just literally just in the depths. You just walk right in let you know, but it's it's an entire like Yeah, there's a dungeon structure And the lightning temple was an entire structure and the wind temple was actually an entire structure Have you have you done deep dive it into that fifth dungeon and actually combined all the stuff together to see that It's actually one big structure as well it just You just have to put it it's normal depth exploration in between the little sections Sort of it's a kind of sort of Yes You can all the other I don't want to I'm not trying to take away This is why I missed it because for every other dungeon you've got this big presentation They got revealed like the whatever temple the fire Like you know, you just said yeah for every other dungeon meaning that's also a dungeon So yeah, I agree it's a dungeon, but I didn't It's an unusual dungeon. No one ever said it was the same as the others. We just said it was a dungeon Presentation at the beginning of their name everything right, so we all agree temple Alrighty then uh moving on Eric. Is there any Nintendo franchise you really think would benefit from switch 2? I think they could really pull off a killer dk Donkey Kong. Yeah, I mean Get the nice and crisp and and do some Do get the free swing in and a wide open for it wacky things with it. Hell. Yeah, you're right.  Let's go That was a good game Dude jungle beat was like literally a good game You know what I would love if they were to just bring a bongo like if they Okay, so you see right let's say there's a new donkey Kong in the works, but they're not gonna put it on switch I put on switch 2 that's fine It's gonna be it'll be better that way, but like imagine they they announce a remaster collection Can't you say that about every game it'd be better if it was on switch? Yeah, that's that's that's where we're at right now. That's just the fact matter is but like, you know what I would love I would love a donkey Kong like bongo like remaster collection, so it comes with the bongos Um, maybe you can pay for like buy it on the e shop without the bongo So you just play with the joy cons, right? But it comes with donkey Kong conga conga 2 and jungle beat Well, you're looking for a guitar hero But only donkey Kong songs and use the bongos Well, I mean there's also jungle beat, which is an actual game But you know jungle beat I just I just I just mean give us all the games that were made for the for the bongos Which are those three on gamecube? Yeah I'm all for it Yeah, I'll be great. I'll spend $80 for it 60 for the game and 20 for the bongos Or they could just add the games to nso and sell us the bongos like did it all the other controllers That that I would be able to get them because they'd be sold out, but also that it's that's gamecube So that would people will be Gamecube nso. Yeah. Yeah I've been I've been preaching it, dude. So but eric or rgh 85 apparently, um, so like What do you think they could do for donkey Kong aren't switched to like? How do you think it would evolve the series? Oh, that's a good one. Um, you know if You know if they'd give it to mario odyssey, you know type treatment give a little bit of semi open world. Um That'd be I think that'd be cool. I you know swing around on vines and things like that and You know, I it it'd be I think it'd be a step in the right direction I mean, obviously going full breath of the wild on it and having an wide open world would be Even more insane, but I'll settle for you know open levels Yeah, I mean you could replace a pony with rambi. There you go. Yeah Yeah rambi the right now. I think donkey Kong should be open jungle Yeah, yeah Like I just you know stuck in a huge island with a huge jungle and that's a this Yeah, like it's not actually like really big compared to the breath of the wild, but it's very dense It's very dense. Yeah, that would be super cool What's interesting about like mentioning mario odyssey though Is that mario odyssey and I I know like I think we talked about this a few weeks ago actually Like it it almost feels more like a successor to banjo kazooie than it does to mario 64 From like a gameplay perspective and what's interesting about that is that rare while they did make banjo kazooie and banjo To we they also made donkey Kong 64 which feels very similar to those games So if you were to kind of make a donkey Kong game sort of loosely based off the mario odyssey gameplay scheme It would in some ways kind of feel like a spiritual successor just to donkey kong 64 But you know, we would hope they would do it right say that andres because I was actually thinking that too How like the last 3d donkey kong we had Would be really bad if they did the same thing like that's an antiquated Game style like the why is it antiquated the collectathon 3d platformers are not but like the collectathon genre very much is Sure, but I just don't want it to be like that I understand but badger kazooie badger to we mario 64 aren't considered bad games donkey kong 64 is I I think you know like there was a reason Yeah, I don't think that's good, but mario odyssey isn't a collectathon in the same way because um You there's so many different like types of gameplay built in it and so many different kinds of challenges that it like It's such a strong variety. I think and like The gameplay is like challenging as where You know, I agree that banjo kazooie and two air good games, but it's more just like Stuff is hidden and you just kind of kind of got to look around sure whereas like mario odyssey It's like really fun every time you find a new thing where you have to get a moon at the end All right, so the reason why donkey kong 64 from what I remember is because it's considered not as good it's because you A lot of those games they offered ways to vary up the gameplay like at the banjo kazooie games You had different transformations and in mario odyssey you have different transformations to the possession of about using cappy In donkey kong 64 you have the different kongs But they did it in a way that was very Kind of obtuse you would have to kind of retread a level by going into a barrel and stopping out characters And there were items you could only get as a specific kong and so you had to kind of like Repeat same areas because you know, there would be all well That's that I can get that as as chunky kong when I can only get this as lanky kong And so it kind of got repetitive and annoying, but you know, there's that's an easy fix you can make a donkey kong game where you can maybe change seamlessly on the fly There you go Like, you know, what if there's just a special like magical like barrel that you have with you and then you know You crush it and then donkey kong slaps diddy kong's hand tag out, right? And then it and you just you just stop in that way and that I'm not saying you can't make a game that's like good that still has that but i'm just saying like I would rather than make something else. That's even better because I think That that would be a better use of their resources and time I mean, I've always advocated for basically tarzan But donkey kong. Yeah, I think we've talked about that a lot on this channel like using the vines to But I don't know. I think like 3d donkey kong could be anything at this point and I don't think it should be held back or limited to collectathon even if it was like a good collectathon When the franchise has been gone for so long and there's so many new types of like video games out there since the last one came out It's crazy. I would love to just see Like them come up with something really fun because it's nintendo. You know, it's gonna be like good I would love to see something new that none of us is even I got you a donkey kong roguelike I mean, that's interesting That is interesting.  Let's like in the morning a roguelike would have that Power ups. Yeah, that's what that's what the genre is You get different power ups every run and some power ups are permanent and stay with you for every run after you get them That's pretty cool. Every time you die you switch kongs Yeah, or you choose your kong at the beginning of every run so you can switch kongs if you want That's pretty cool when when dawning kong got the flower power up and the fire power up at the movie turn red He looked better than mario did So here's an idea. So imagine a donkey kong game. It's not open world They don't go like that complex But what they do is maybe isometric gameplay like a 3d world or Kirby's forgotten land, right? But instead of it being like purely level based it's it's it's that style of visual like camera perspective Um, and you still have like the swapping of kongs and stuff. So you have the variation of gameplay but And there's like, you know, you try to get to to the end of the level where there's you know You get to the end of level that's what you do But there are like secret coins and get you know, it's very similar to how 3d world and Kirby worked, but it's a metroidvania Each level But it may feel like a level but they can connect to an overarching You know world that you go back and forth through what you're describing is kind of like dark souls level design Yeah, pretty much through. It's like a 3d metroidvania. Basically. Yeah, not elven ring, but like more like Original I'm talking about traditional Maps where it's like metroidvania. Yeah, and we're talking about exploration not necessarily combat Of course, yeah, but they'll be boss fights, you know, there will be combat But it's going to be more platformer centric maybe with that tarzan style that we've talked about like swinging through vines That would be really cool. I like that Like your ideas. Nice. Yeah, but I like I have a better idea I want anything to come up with a brand new ip Okay, call it multiverse max or whatever But this character has the ability and power To travel through multiple multi-verse of nintendo Okay, he is stranded in the middle. Also, he ends up in high rule has to fight the battle there Another multi-verse he ends up in dongy kong land or whatever country and then end up in the mushroom kingdom Just have a multi-verse max character that kind of combines the entire so basically kingdom hearts nintendo Kind of yeah, but better. That's literally what you just said Never mind I would get the same better because getting hearts is just an amazing game, but um Yeah, something like that multi-verse max he making like a metro not a metro like uh, or nintendo saura Nintendo Kind of like that. Yeah, and then so You actually go back and you can actually defeat Bowser from nes You know because you have to get through a level and also you you end up Defeating Bowser from nes you go into the future to feed ganon from from somewhere else and just kind of bring it back to his own world, you know Pretty cool. Like uh, like a combined kind of thing kind of thing thing there that blur What did they do for the next pokemon game? They've left it. They've left it No, like let's like imagine like, you know, seeing what word they went with scarlet and vial How do they make the next pokemon game? better They give it the lego treatment fire the company actually finish the first one I I think I agree with spawn wave Make a complete video game that'd be great. Yeah Yeah, I mean like seriously though like scarlet like I mean jake, I know you finished you play the dlc like immediately But I I did finish the dlc like somewhat recently But I thought it was really good like there are elements of the dlc that remind me of kind of like older pokemon games Um like they're sort of the shield to the dlcs Like you should have incorporated this into the base game. It was like they rushed them out too quick Or if they would have had like the story stuff and the stuff in the dlcs The games themselves would have been so much better They could have had a cloud save that would have been something good because When I lost my switch back in packs Right that was a switch that had my entire pokemon game Let's go and violate right and I Yeah, they don't like people manipulating. That's the reason why they do that Um, wait, honor is for you saying that No, I mean I like I you know, I think the dlc kind of showed But the storytelling in there is is compelling Um, and and what's what's you know, it's interesting like you I actually think the storytelling in in base scullivy. It's also compelling. Yes. I love But you kind of have to get to it. Yeah, and and I actually thought the handled They handled um the open world really well like I think the gameplay direction Was pretty much spot-on. Um, I think you know, maybe like the catching mechanics Like I think it like they kind of lost some things from legends that I wish they would have incorporated But you know, I think they you know had a pretty solid direction But really it's yeah a finish like there's got to be polish But what they were really lacking was I mean, I think they need more of those that that story stuff More of that into the world and like you look at the towns the towns They're cool. Like oh, there's actually a lot of towns in scullivy like at a surface level It feels like a very believable world that you can immerse yourself into but you can't go into any of the houses In the first dlc then the kina kami There's like those can't go into the houses like populated areas But you can go in the houses in all of them and you can market area Going any game if they add like one mini game like that to every town not like the gym mini game that you can do once That's something else. Yeah, but something else with rewards like they did in the dlc but they did that like in every city And like every city had like a different thing and maybe some you could win pokemon in like in previous pokemon games And you could at the game corner Like if they added like stuff to do in all the cities It would just make it feel so much more alive Yeah, I mean i'm me thinking about it now like i'm thinking back to like golden rod and and silver You go into that town It's a big city and you go into these different houses and it's a mystery I mean something that people forget or some people don't don't know. Um pokemon actually has um earthbound dna And one of the things I love about earthbound is it's like it's a mystery right you go into these different towns You talk to these different characters And you're learning more about what's kind of going on And so prior pokemon games had a lot of that you go to golden rod and you're like, oh, what's going on? Oh, like there's silph co or next silph co But you know there is a radio tower right and you have to figure out how to get into the radio tower So you go to these different houses you talk to different characters There's a mystery to solve But meanwhile there's also the game cor in the game cor and you have different mini games and so like there is different you know Storylines happening at the same time and I think what they need to do is yeah incorporate like some mini games more Into the towns but literally have these towns have their own stories Where there's a mystery to be solved That makes them far more compelling and that's more reminiscent of prior pokemon games. I think a lot of fans Um have been kind of trying to voice over the years that it feels like we've lost a lot of that because things have gone more shallow More impressive in some ways with shallow and others yeah Here doggie saying that pokemon was never liked that am I wrong? Like what? I did. I don't know. I'm not the big pokemon guy.  This is probably the best story Uh since black and white and that was probably the the peak of all stories and even that story has a lot of issues But it's regarded as the best story in pokemon because there's not a lot of competition Like the stories are always shit, but the exploration And discovering stuff and solving the mysteries like even in cinnabar island in gen one Like when you go into the laboratory and find all the things that talk about the birth of mew Right and like the towns destroyed like it translates as the mew was born not like cloned Like that's what like the actual thing you find which is cool and like One of them has the actual day which is february whatever and then so like that's why like on twitter Everyone's like, oh happy birthday mew because like that's found in the game And that was the cool stuff and pokemon the exploration And then when they got into the hand holding right after well kind of started with black and white honestly, but like I believe black and white was like the peak And then ever since it's gone downhill Like i'm not saying x and y were bad, but i'm saying they were not as good as black and white Like from a story perspective it got more simplified Yeah, and then sword and shield was not as good as sun and moon and then i think charlotte violet finally Was better than sword and shield and some people will disagree But i think we're finally going the right direction then we also had pokemon legends and now we're getting a sequel to pokemon legends and I will say even though there's a lot of controversy in a lot of the pokemon companies decisions their games the way they don't complete them I will actually give them credit that for years They have always listened to the fans and tried to give a product that they are asking for Because after x and y everyone was like we are done with gyms Can we just have some kind of pokemon game where it's not go get eight badges? What did they do? They made sun and moon and they actually listened And then like people wanted it back so they went with sword and shield and that and then they added the wild They gave us more gyms and sword and shield Well, yeah, because people wanted it back because then they were like we don't like this actually And then they were like we want more of the wild area and sword and shield We want more stuff like that. We want more of the mechanics from We want like, you know, we want more overworld encounters So they took charlotte violet made the whole game like that and made it open world Took away hms found a new way to incorporate that so like Even though they don't do enough they do listen I'll give them at least credit for that. I think and the fact that they made pokemon legends at all Shows they were listening to a huge part of the fan base that wanted something completely different So they thought that they made pokemon legends. I think With the pokemon company and game freak is that they listen instead of just doing what they want to do And I say this because almost all of nintendo's biggest ip's ain't listening to jack shit from the fans They're making what they want to make and that's how you end up with the excellent product that surprises you And takes you into new places and I know we could talk about how like xelda there's been demand for open world They were talking about open world before the fans were with games like skyward sword They wanted skyward sword to be open world.  Don't worry.  I agree is as like they feel restrained They don't want to do that either Nate they want to make sure they get it out in time for the next card game set to come out For the next anime based on the time frame that they give the pokemon company right So they decide the time They could just make and they decide that that they're only to need that much time because they can make the anime that fast They can make the cards that fast so they decide that they need to make the game that fast That's all about money Yeah, I you're not wrong that it's all about money But they've literally explained an interview as a game freak sets their own timetable and then everything's based around the timetable they set Okay, so this is this is what I I think you're both right and both wrong. Um, I think you're all wrong Oh, okay Fuck everything, but I think the fact of matter is is that except for every g rg g rg g 85 is on point I I just want to say that um Nintendo in general They do beat march the beat of their own drum their games do they you know, they think of their own games They have their own creativity and ideas they put together However, I don't think it's fair to say they don't listen at all. They do listen They take feedback But taking feedback doesn't mean listening to exactly what people are saying you hear what they're saying You factor it, but it's not going to be the ultimate decider It so it's a combination and then when it comes to pokemon, I do think you listen to fan feedback They do care about that They also come up with their own ideas and they also do dumb shit like, you know Russian games out to for every single year when they probably shouldn't but at the same time the money's there So it's kind of hard to like argue with the money Stuff I just wish honestly what I wish is that if they need to do it like this So they can sell as many games as possible keep cranking them out fine do that But like once every three or four years can we just get like that huge awesome pokemon game? We all really want So you can still keep suing all this bullshit everyone that buys it will still buy it because it's pokemon I feel like I'm getting that because they did legends and now they're doing a new other legends Yeah, well legends felt like a tech demo to me And I hope the next one builds on it in the way like tears of kingdom built on Pokemon game of all time. Thanks. Thank you for saying that I heard you. I don't care.   Spawnwave here. Um, I heard but what your butt is saying What but I heard you say but and not bud But but but anyway What my blood is telling me listen, listen, listen, listen. Well, what like anger listen, listen Anger no, but Okay, so it's talking about that a fart is a wish your butt makes What Fair enough Let's move on to another topic that people have been wanting for like the last hour is a wish your butt Pangents which won't happen on the new uh The new show because I'm not gonna let it happen, but Getting into the next time it's it's a scientific fact that a that a fart is a wish your butt makes All right Yeah, I don't even I don't even understand that um So topic two Uh India world plus direct soon now we look we have the same old rumors for this, right? It's the same the ph brazil guy Yada yada yada the he hasn't been proven wrong yet with this stuff So I know he said march but when he said march he was given his opinion What he actually claimed if you read what he said is that his sources were saying that India world is just going to be before the direct and he said the direct would be in april And then necro for the api limo went ahead and said it's going to be a general directive We if we want to give him some credit. Let's see what happens with that now There's other reasons to to think something's about to happen It's been all over the internet. There's no joke. So something something's happening with hollow night Something's happening. It's getting rated by all the ratings boards. There's now a wishlist page on xbox It wasn't announced by the way.  That's that's usually what those monthly announcements are. So um This it was something that that's going nuts right now and has been a big news story because obviously the first game was a mega success I mean we we've been waiting since 2019. It was announced in february 2019 They had a playable demo at e3 that year on the switch And yet here we are in 2024 and the game hasn't come out yet But the fed has been submitted to all the rating boards means it's pretty close to a final state If not the final state And now you can wishlist it on xbox. I'm sure it'll start popping up at other other shops as well over the next week or so That is suggested in indie world or direct It might be a big enough indie game that it would be in a direct instead We do know that uh, there's rumors out there for a sony event The sony event rumors are for next month not this month So if it's going to be in news this month would probably happen in a tender event xbox recently had an event um also Dead cells the developers of that game I went ahead uh evil something they announced a new game literally today And there's a rumor from tom hennerson inside gaming that they also have been working on a new prince of persia game And that is obviously stupidly exciting because dead cells is amazing and prince of persia Are we gonna? I mean according to tom hennerson. We're about to get i've been playing actually a lot of dead cells lately And they have all the prince of persia outfits in that game now Yeah, yeah So apparently and that that's there's a whole story behind that but the reason I'm bringing that up is That tom hennerson has said it's going to be revealed this month And ubi soft who is the ip right honer doesn't have anything going on until the ubi soft forward in june So they're not doing it if play station don't ubi soft Whatever if play station doesn't have an event until uh next month according to what what the uh journalists are saying That really only leaves xbox or nintendo to reveal a third party game So that also could push towards a reveal at an event because hey the last You know prince of persia game that came on january that also the the lost whatever was received very well Uh and that's on switch. So One made by this company would perceivable also be on switch So there's a possibility there. So we have a couple games out there with the really heavy rumors and and information Even silk's not really rumors. That's just literal stuff that's happened Suggesting that there's reveals happening this month And then you have to bet nintendo has nothing past june Now I know the biggest thing is the old nintendo doesn't do anything in april unless it's like an indie world or whatever I get it technically 2017 they had a direct in april But that was the launch year of switch. So I get a little bit different So what are we thinking does any of this mean anything for an indie world or direct? Yep, I mean nintendo's already off script this year. So Anything could happen april could be a a direct month so that they can announce the rest of 2020 Uh, switch games, right and they only have to announce about about four or five games To fill in the rest of the year and then they're they're good to go, right? Or five Really five games if they leave that they always leave december open Well december usually has something but something small that they don't necessarily have to announce in april Yeah, no, like it's a public it'll be up in a published nintendo title Just be something we just don't care about like fitness boxing three Which may have already released. Oh, it was fake for yourself, buddy All right fitness fitness boxing.  There you go. Didn't take me long either. I Both Like on 2023 there was no game for yourself that there was no game december 2022. There was no game on december uh 2021 December 2020. Yeah, December 2021.  Yeah, so basically just one december out of the switch's life cycle There was one game. Did you just say just one december like one of the biggest games on switch released in december? That would be at least two Let's see here. I'm going back going back. What's the december release? Uh, we have big brain academy in 2021 The next the next uh in 2022 there was no game in december And 2023 there was no games in december And this is 2024 But I won't let me see when we go back to 2017 2020 2019 2019 there was no game in december And 2018 there was super smash bros in 2018 Uh, 2017 there was xeno boy chronicles two So basically that's a game that definitely no one cares about. Yeah out of the seven year out of the seven years I would say three three three games So Yeah Like that, but I mean It's not out of the top of my head. I'm reading Yeah, um No, but I mean, you know, I think the point is is that there could be a december game But it doesn't doesn't have to be and that's not yeah, yeah Yeah, so I'm saying it's all speculation for nothing So I can just announce all the games in december if you want to you know, it's funny. You said, uh, I By the way, I'm not gonna fact check every year But literally I remember he said like 2017 didn't have one. I'm like uh xeno boy chronicles. He said xeno. Yeah Oh, you said Hey, you know very chronicles too. Let's calm down good listening skills Um, I'm sorry Oh, it's okay. We're all we're all wrong sometimes. Yeah Yeah, I think you yelling at a member in my chat. I was the wrong thing to do too, but Yeah, the guy that told me up yours. Yeah, I was yelling at him Yeah, he he responded to you Saying nasty you said before that Yeah, he just disagreed with you and said you were wrong That's not what he said See I literally read what he wrote when he said that dude I would appreciate if you would not insult people in my chat. That's what I'm saying All right. You guys have a good night. I'm out I'll let her jake Bye Yeah so with that Um, let's say from last year this uh, we had two games in November though So they don't get to do the two games that two games in october also mario wonder and detentives Pikachu And then this uh September they had m zero that son of technically a gamer that's online pigment four was in in, um July and then pigment two and one was in in the summer in uh in june So, I mean to not get announced a couple games. I could say maybe maybe metro prime two and three um with the announcement of metro prime four then, um Wind Waker just a throw game from zelda out there and um Things about it To finish off the year Like a smaller game after that, you know, no does that doesn't have to be like a big title Or when people are I keep seeing comments, uh, mario galaxy two. Is it mario galaxy two? The awesome Yeah, a lot of people don't want that game mario galaxy two. So what's the I haven't played either of them So what's the difference between one and two? um Galaxy two is more streamlined. Um, so like um in mario galaxy one you have like a bigger hub area The hub area has been great is greatly reduced to like a ship And so there's less secrets to find on the ship itself But there's still a variety of gameplay within the levels of galaxy two. Some people prefer it Because of that and also yoshi you got yoshi in galaxy two and yoshi has different Different transformations as well, which are pretty cool And so it's basically just more galaxy one just different variations, you know They explored even more galaxy ideas and variety so They're both great the main is a mario galaxy is just kind of going through planets and collecting stars just like, um Like any other game right just like collecting stars and moving on to the next world Pretty much. Yeah. I mean if you want to oversimplify it. Yeah, that's that's what it is What about the galaxy games is that they have really unique, um mechanics, right? It's a lot of our gravity based I wouldn't say the galaxy games have some of the most unique like levels in 3d platform However, like even by today's standards the galaxy games are still pretty unique So it's pretty cool. That's why I haven't played the games. I remember I tried playing it and I got dizzy Playing it just because of the well, I mean there is a little bit of that. That is yeah. Yeah, yeah But yeah, I mean that that's what I think for the year. I think, um, I mean, Nintendo has released more than two games in them and like last year they released two games in in in, um, November and two games in October with the Texas Pikachu and mario wonder I mean, I guess two good games and warrior where move it and mario rpg. So Not sure if they're gonna go that that many games, um from from july july august september october november five months, right? um But if we are getting that metro prime presentation metro prime four, man We get I would love a dedicated metro prime four direct Yeah If they could do like the direct and then announce that presentation just for the for the for metro prime four So we can get like a tree house for the game and everything All right. All right. Hear me out. This is pure like opium copium hype mode, right like like I would love it if they just announced a metroid direct They don't they don't say metro prime four direct. They say a metroid direct, right? And then with the with the announcement say we're going to be finally showcasing metro prime four here But there will be other metro related announcements And this allows them to mention metro prime two metro prime three and maybe even sakamoto comes on and says comes on and says Hey, I've been working with kensuke to nabe to more closely You know tying the metro prime story to the main line series, right? So that's kind of cool But also announces that yes mercury steam and nintendo are currently working on metroid six So we know so we have confirmation that it's they don't show it or anything just say hey Yeah, we're working on it Yeah And then so we get primed two or three and then the rest of shows. Oh, right here's metro prime four Blow your minds like kind of like e3 2016 levels of showcasing like breath of the wild But they show metro prime four Yeah I don't only want to get into release dates Which one switch to like just like give me the metro goodness that would be so Yeah, uh, also my pretty meebles. Give me give me another like so many majority meebles all of them everyone With everything i've heard about metro i know all the rumors and everything about how how great it looks how They have these open areas one thing one game that comes to mind is um What's that game that's kind of like that one? Let's see here. Um Uh, see here What's that game's the destiny destiny, you know how destiny has uh They have a multiplayer but it's like this big giant open areas And I think that even the level sometimes you can climb a ship And even in the ship There's there's that type of metroid kind of level where you have to kind of unlock places to get to the other side And just like that it's very very very action Packed game and then they have these open areas where you can play multiplayer And then of course you have open areas which is far as a part of the storyline for um destiny That's why I picture I think I if all that comes to pass I think metroid could this this could be one of the biggest metroids Ever done if they make it that way and they give us this big giant open area so that we can play multiplayer, you know Yeah They could turn they could turn um metroid into nintendo's main shooter game with multiplayer and just you know and adding these big worlds Within there keep keep keep keep keep what what makes metroid metroid, right the Um, I I I don't know what to call it. Is it like a little maze?  It's a maze. Well, yeah when you go into more fall mode There can be mazes. There's a lot of more fall puzzles than the metroid prime games Yeah, so it's yeah, it's like one was like a puzzle game, so you have to kind of Uh, get yourself through Um, you can still have that type of Of feelings metro, but just make it bigger and grander, right metroid. It's such a really cool franchise just because it shoots. It's a shooter. And so why not expand upon that, you know, and You know, it'll be cool to I mean, I've been a huge proponent of metroid prime for Incorporating a significant multiplayer segment now This is all with the assumption that it takes nothing away from the single player.  It has like that I I feel like I run to the trap of like, you know, let's make every game a souls born game Yeah But uh, because I mean the thing is in the souls war games. Yeah, you can bring in players You can invite them in you leave messages like, um, you know, some of those things could be pretty cool I mean it's It I I could talk about it for metroid, but I kind of don't because I feel like I I talk about all The way, you know souls born elements for a whole bunch of games, but metroid would fit really well Yeah, yeah Like I mean, you could even all right, I could I guess I'm doing this. I'm doing it but like imagine like Like for them like, you know, like in the different souls born games There's like messages you can see from our players Like in metroid, they could be like Messages like encrypted data messages sent from other places in the cosmos like all this This federation trooper or whatever right and then so that's kind of like the the lore reason why you see You know different messages that you can sort of scan Yeah, and that can be a hint system and that would be pretty cool Um So you got that and yeah, maybe you know, you can bring in other hunters Excerpt points depending on the scale of the game There's some potential there, you know, I I do want to stress though that like metroid isn't It's it it is a large part in adventure and there is shooting elements but you know We talked about like the potential of open world. I I think open world It's it's a little weird, right because technically what open what actually means is open world like Structure like you can do things out of order, right? And so A lot of people take open world to just mean oh big massive area that you can kind of explore almost endlessly, right? And that's there's there's some confusion there and what's interesting though is that With metroid, there is a a long history of being able to do things not necessarily In one pre-ordained way um But there does need there is still like a there is a sequence, right? And there there is There is sequence breaking and I think they just think special a dread where they had some planned sequence breaks And I think Incorporating more of that would be really cool and then having some big open elements And then yeah, maybe having some choice as to how you can go about exploring the world But I think there I think there still should be like key points that need to be done in a certain order I think that's the best way to go about it And there needs to be a lot of those like close corridor moments not just big massive areas to explore It needs to be a blend really. Yeah. Yeah, I never thought of metroid as an open world game I thought of more like the open zone just make bigger zones to explore But open world where like here's the kingdom.  Exactly. Yeah So I think that this this has to be one of the biggest games that they're making there. So I look forward to it Yeah, I predict over 10 million Off the back without even seeing it trust me Agree and I'm crazy. I don't think I'm crazy But I think and I think I don't know like it's just one of those things where It could do well and sell like four or five million, you know Like that's that's still pretty good But there's always a chance that it may like catch this other audience That feels kind of hard to predict, right? Like no one no one thought Breath of the wild would get to the level it did. No one thought that an animal crossing gets a level it did And but but it happened it just turned out that there is an even greater size audience out there that You know, we don't really see on the internet, right? So it's kind of hard to sort of predictive metroprime 4 will be there or not Like if you look at Pikmin 4 right Pikmin 4 has reached a new level But it's not that level where it's getting 10 15 million. So, you know, can they even get Pikmin 4 to that level? I don't know but Pikmin 4 is now bigger than it ever has been and that's great Yeah, it'll continue to grow. I mean Pikmin 4 is technically still a brand new game, right? Sure I mean, you know, it's been a Pikmin 4 has an evergreen status and a couple years from now It does approach like eight or 10 million. Yeah, and I feel like every game Has had there that one game that just pushed them over the limit just like Breath of the Wild is for Zelda and so Metroid 4 has that potential being that Breath of the Wild game that pushes Metroid to the next level and it's into the you know, yeah media, you know Um, and especially not with Nintendo taking over theme parks and taking over movies You know, we get Metroid is a crazy franchise to make a movie about right? It can be live-action. It could be like a lady and type of yeah Half of this, you know, it would be one of the best Nintendo movies that possible I just need Metroid to be a big enough of a brand to be worth it Now Metroid Prime 4 starts selling like if the metric and start selling like eight to 10 million copies consistently Then I would say yeah, you know what it's time to give it a movie, you know And in a way in a way Metroid is a kind of franchise Well, they don't really need the franchise to be that big because it's already a great enough story It has a character and so if they take into the mainstream media, they hire a great actress They have she has to be well well known, right? They put really good actors behind this and they they they Kind of give us this really big action adventure movie In space with Metroid and and and having Samus and everything I think the movie itself can literally push Metroid onto the atmosphere and and bring that that franchise like You know I'm like crazy and then put that into the theme parks I mean going into a Metroid kind of ride or whatever, right? Where you kind of put in like a it could be it could be like a roller coaster kind of ride you put a suit on Um, and it kind of you know a really cool ride for Metroid, right? So imagine You are maybe on a Federation ship Yeah, right and so It's a small Federation ship maybe going through like a planet that's being it's like a planet that has like a lot of Futuristic pieces and it's getting destroyed right as you ride through and it's kind of you Witnessing the fight between Samus and Ridley And so you're flying through that there's a lot of you know fire and effects and all this going on And you just at different moments you see it's it's scary at certain points like it's dark There's smoke there's fireworks and then all of a sudden you see a flash light and then really it's like right They're about to get you and then you see Samus coming like blast him in the face, right? At the last minute Yeah, and then at the very end, you know You think Ridley's about to get you guys before you're able to escape onto the bigger ship to survive the exploding planet Right, but samus comes in grapples Ridley and you see like samus like rip Ridley and throw him into lava And so there's this moment where people, you know, maybe you cheer, right? And so then you guys escape, but then it leaves you with this like question Oh the samus make it because samus is the hero She saved you guys and then you see the plant to get destroyed as you're riding off on the ship And then at the very end you see the samus ship fly out in the trademark The trademark thing that happens at the end of most Metroid games where you're not sure if samus makes it But then you see the ship fly off the planet and that's the end of the ride.   Okay. Okay, and so you're you're actually outside Um, you know shooting all these aliens and kind of I'm trying to get to the other ship and then and then Everything you just said happens in this in the next ship. So it's a ride that makes you Get off on the planet Right shoot.  So basically you you get on your feet You can even help samus against ridley like there's moments where you're all you'll have a little blast We're kind of shooting ridley a little bit and there's like maybe even like a score you get at the end Yeah, there's been a few rides like that actually. That'd be crazy. Hopefully and then And so I recently I forget which is it I know it was it was disney's something but I went on one of the star wars rides It was extremely interactive like it was based on one of the new star wars And you there's multiple ships you get on at different points And so there is like a this sense of space exploration So this concept has been done before no all these concepts have been done before but it's like marrying it together I Hmm, this would be so good. Yeah, i'm i'm i'm telling you that there's there's so much potential behind that franchise And then I could do You know movies theme parks and all we got to do is have metroid prime 4 sell 10 plus million Alrighty then it's a hell of a goal I'm just getting I'm just getting in the way. Where's wall dough? I'm wall dough. I knew my ink wall dough and I'm not I just noticed Boom any boom any make them the rounds stick so uh Yeah, look the stuff seems to be pointing towards some sort of direct or some sort of indie world or and or both We don't really don't realize we wanted a massive metroid tangent. Yeah I think that's really exciting because you're thinking about the next possibility of the next big direct might have metroid Yeah, but I do appreciate that's kind of what started the tangent Yeah Yeah, um Anyways All right guys, uh, I think that's going to do it for the show actually I could extend it and bring up some other stuff, but I think we're we're at a good point right now and I want to thank Andres and mike. We're kind of carrying it for the last little bit here. I do appreciate it We will be back next week. We got three episodes up in season two. So we'll be back again next week We got uh saffron city tv and thunder steve 85 the mustachioed man coming back Uh, kind of perfect is sonic 3 wraps on their shooting and we're gonna have the robotic mustache come on I'm just Look, it's gonna be pretty sick. It's gonna be a good episode Uh, so I hope you guys look forward to that go around the room Let people know who we are where we can find them what we got going on Uh, such as mike apparently leaving the news business forever Well, I am leaving the news business as we know it I'm going into it in a more comedic sense of still talking about the news But not the same way we talk about it. I guess as uh, you know, it's not going to be my my bread and my bread and butter anymore Um, hopefully I mean you can't ever say never right because we try out new shows some things work I've tried a couple shows hasn't work. I went back to odyssey news, you know So the my galaxy show is still a pilot in the works. Hopefully it works out um, it's gonna be It's gonna be about 10 news and 90 percent 90 percent evergreen content So 10 percent news 90 percent ever see evergreen content. I hope you guys hope to have all of you on the show um, you know Um, eric andre, uh, where's wildo? You know, you know, and so hopefully We we get to have more collabs in the show. Um, it's gonna be fun That's what I have going on right now. I for that. I'm trying to Restructure my my my uh, if you guys can see here a little bit Look at that all this all that wall there. I'm changing the entire wall. I have another Look at the back. So That shelf there. I want to move it to this this side of here It's gonna be this wall gonna be all shelves with with with the stuff and this this entire wall i'm gonna i'm gonna put in uh, like a Nice looking wood kind of color, right? Um Some guy wouldn't charge me 5000 bucks for it I got a sponsor doing for free. It was good Uh, but that uh, that's the micology show. It's coming soon. Hopefully comes out comes together I have a writer Um for the show that's gonna be helping with the news would because it's gonna be more and more scripted a little bit We're at least more entertaining um, other than that so far until then I'm not uploading every day like I used to because of my eyesight. It's kind of Getting kind of it's there, right? So I I don't have a schedule, but when the the show starts Right now it's gonna be monday wednesday and friday And then tuesdays and thursdays. I'm gonna start. Um live streaming Tuesdays tuesdays Yeah, tuesdays. Um, andrey and and they don't have podcasts on tuesday your your podcasts on monday, right andrey Whenever i want to do it Sometimes monday night sometimes tuesday night I always try not to not to clash with you guys. That's why I teach my podcasts on fridays That way I don't clash on wednesdays with nates that way, you know, I'll tell you that when I stream It's if it's not monday. It's tuesday. It's not tuesday. It's monday usually and then I also stream on thursdays with some regularity When I do last year When I do last year on tuesdays and thursdays i It's gonna be right from five to six. I've never seen for more than two hours. So, you know, maybe from five to seven Um, but it's gonna be two days a week and then Yeah, that's so far. That's what I have so far Uh, weekends off completely week weekends completely off just so that I can extend my My uh, my eyesight better, you know, so it's gonna be three days of edited work two days Of of live stream, which we don't have to edit, you know, and then weekends off But um, hopefully you guys enjoy the content I appreciate, uh, nape for having me on the podcast. It was fun, you know You know just good talk Yeah, or to come all right Uh, uh, nintendo prime you can catch me anywhere Anything is her you guys know the drill at this point if you don't just type nintendo prime you'll find me, uh, we're It's gonna be interesting because there's a slight rebrand to the podcast coming for season three Which means you can't type nintendo prime podcast and necessarily find it but It'll be probably We we we got we got some stuff stuff coming up here Uh, try to make the show take the show to the next level you guys saw vg news That's not the only change I'm trying to take all the content we're doing to the next level and and I think this podcast has Uh, grander things it could become Uh, as we move forward Also, uh a little bit shorter and also because of that a bit more energetic, uh with certain things and a lot more Variety in the topics so that as well that being said, thank you guys for being here. Uh, Andres you want to tell people what's up with you? Before i'm done, I forgot to plug in the podcast every friday at 8 30 Eastern time on the channel the topics podcast every friday nights. So yeah I still have I still have you have yet to have nate on the podcast, but hopefully when one day Nights are tough It's only an hour podcast I yeah go tell my fiance that She's like it's only an hour, but you don't stream on fridays. That's an hour you be with me Oh, yeah, I respect that. I respect that. I'm sorry that that yeah that i'm not gonna answer that. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so good luck with that We got going on anything Fueler besides getting the swall Fueler I don't feel full right now. I feel dead Well, that's that's what that's how, you know, you're getting swall is now pregnant you feel that on the turn and then I'm just gonna be coming up with the with his own theme song like a little like the rock But you gotta go to Andres research channel He's got mostly videos every single day or most days and he does really amazing content really good original Theories and thoughts and yeah, he'll get get into the news as well when it's relevant to what he wants to talk about, but Take out today's video. I really recommend it. I really recommend today's video He just makes really good content. Yeah, I just just right I've been saying this for years that he makes better content than I do and I Sure, and that's what we're talking about Today today today Thank you for guys for doing it for me. I don't like great You make amazing content. I'm saying it for you. He should be a bigger youtuber than me And he kind of is he kind of gets more views than I do per video at this point. So not today Not today, but that might be evergreen. It could become something. We'll see I got my my my first video over saying Kate did it. I mean last yesterday. So that's that's something The chat's asking me to flex, but I'm telling I got nothing to show off. My muscles are dead Right quick, we got to go through some of the super chats that might have had some questions Um as well because I totally skipped the q&a section. We don't have a lot. I can't really show anything off Um, Chris Lancer just had a question for mike about when he can expect his controller I don't know or anything about that. Chris Lancer our controller. Let me look it up and tell you right now. Okay Let me listen to Chris Lancer. Hold on a second December 16th. I sent you an email.  So yeah, yeah So check that out Chris Lancer and hopefully get that taken care of. I have no idea I'm not involved in that. Uh, but not just 712 says what style of facial hair do you wish you could pull off but can't Hmm No facial people here with facial hair right now. I have no mustache right here Ah, so you'd like you'd like the grand moustache. No, I hope yes. I would just like a full Um, but you can't hear your body just saying no Yeah, you could put a fake part in so basically right now what I want to pull up is no Facial hair. This is the just covering stuff. That's access right here And so yeah, once I lose weight then then you I'm probably gonna go in there and face some facial facial stuff What about you? I just is there any look facial hair wise you wish you could pull off? I can't Having a goatee you don't you can't grow alone, right?  I haven't shaved in like a day Um, like so this will get like a little patchy Um, so I can't really grow a significant thick hair on the side. So I can't look like um You know a viking Um unfortunately Yeah, um, I don't know. I I don't really I don't I am what I am and I just Like what I am Yeah, yeah When I think I like facial for me like obviously you guys see I I grow a pretty thick even Even things I can kind of get any look. It doesn't mean that's how it looks good Like that's the thing like not every look of a beard even though you can have it can look good Um as an example when thunder steve comes next to me. He's almost got the handlebar mustache going on dude I can't pull that off I just can't I could grow it but I can't pull it off Uh, so that's just an example of a look that just would not look good on me I don't think it fits my my uh facial structure, but um, it does for some people and for thunder steve it fits so That's maybe the only one I could think of is like because I can grow all of them So it's not like I have a physical limitation. It's just Doesn't really fit. Thanks for that. Uh, we had uh, erin rafts just wanted to be really nice here to me and mike Sorry, apparently you're left out on just uh, awesome piece of nintendo switch 2 news Mike odyssey really enjoying your vg news nate keep it up having a great first week of my new job Keep up the great vibe gentlemen Congrats. That's awesome.  I'm just kidding. Thank you so much erin raster. You're a good man. You're a good man Everyone the chat's been really nice to me today. So thank you all Yep, and then but out to 7 12 just drop 5 gets it. I want to make sure I show that out. Thank you so All right, thank you And made having hope uh a member that's uh, I heard the chat kind of yeah having hopes and dude There's been like gifted members for like three weeks and she just keeps waiting for it to happen. Just wouldn't hit her wouldn't hit her Happy to be a member again. All right guys, that's gonna do for the total probably gets episode uh, 66 of season two Go ahead and slap our outro and we will catch you guys same time next week. There we go