ntial streets that are i had concerns with to begin with yeah i agree i don't want to lose the open space the cars can drive around and or they can be encouraged to do a walker bike yeah it's one of these things i wish we had it but i don't advocate the one solution we do have to achieve it and we've created in a case those parcels that were sold and developed to become part of this we've created we've created the infrastructure by way of regulations to ensure that that connection could happen at that time right yeah so that was sort of part two and i don't know what made this move and what made me cut out um if you pan down and to the left a bit um there's this sort of yeah that guy there's this planned right-of-way 50-foot easement for future access um so i guess it's probably coming later but where does that land relative to ledge way and is that appropriate what do you mean where does it land in yeah um well i think i i can see it i just this involves one or two properties that need to be sure and that's fine you know but we're in the business of setting up development for future success too right so does the i guess i haven't seen it the way that lila just threw it before because i was looking at it and i said oh that shoots out this direction it doesn't really line up but i'm not sure that that for the your original concern about the person who lives on ledge way getting over to kimble was it i don't think that saves them anything it was about this area people work down in this commercial oh okay all right we're doing that commercial district that they're building yeah okay also it becomes when a brian farm road is the only connection that does might lead to future congestion when it's fully built question is there any looks at that was the question will a brian farm road be overwhelmed when it's fully built no i think that was part of the traffic study roger could answer right yeah we looked at that if no that's that's not going to happen there's plenty of capacity there okay so i think we exhausted 12 um we're not going to change that design of the open space at this point um to accommodate a connection for cars um number 13 talking about the tilly drive pd is recorded an easement to the subject property line which staff considers does not appear to connect the proposed ic roadway that recommends the board require the applicant to modify their proposal to provide a viable collector roadway connection to the dedicated easement as required by the official map and demonstrate coordination with those responsible for the tilly drive pd any such modification should provide access to each of the proposed lots in the ic area and accommodate the board's direction as it pertains to connections between the residential phase and the ic phase of this ud we explain this a little bit more the transitions within these zoning districts do you guys um do you still have the the slide deck that we sent because we had had scott draw a um yeah which which page do you want me to go to slide 34 shows this uh on an aerial photo this particular item okay let me just hold on a second i end up a bunch of things so so the tilly drive pd includes what they've recorded like uh either an easement or right away that goes to our property line uh in there in some of their approvals no i what i'm saying is the tilly drive pd is that include all of the office buildings on tilly drive the medical buildings or is that include some of them what is yeah it's all of the office buildings including all of them built yeah what it's worth i've spoken with bob ashard at pittsagalli properties about the specific issue on the shifting of the connector road and you know his general response was he didn't have an issue with it as long as we were you know staying in open communication about how those two sections would connect but you know jogging up the property line he thought was a reasonable solution because they do have some limitations on the developable area of that remaining lot that they have i think there's some wetlands there that they're trying to avoid yeah there's a wetlands map in the staff comments that shows the limitations on the drive and you can see it because it's not on this slide but you can see the right of way on the slide that's up now and then the area where the industrial commercial road tees into the tilly drive right of way is just wet well i think we're i don't know how much of your time we have and we have a lot of uh sort of more complex feedback but why don't we get a proposal together of how these two things come together and bring it back to you guys that sounds good thank you step number 14 staff recommends the board undertake a similar discussion of the connection between the hillside and the current project by asking applicator describe how residents will travel between the residential area and the industrial commercial area to the east and then provide feedback to the applicant or whether provided non-vehicular connections between the two areas are adequate for the currently proposed design um is that what we were just talking about marla or is it is it talking more about how we're going to get um the pedestrian walkways there so this is moving away from hillside to east view and talk as now within east view from the area currently proposed for development to the industrial commercial area that i circled on that previous i so how you get from the the problems that are proposed to the industrial areas just to the south of it right and i just wanted to give you a time check while i have this floor yes it's 945 i think we can get to uh how much well 14 and 15 time to go together okay let's get to 14 and 15 i think i think this has a pretty big impact on the whole project and so it would be good to to get some all right let's get through 14 and 15 here then before i go to public comment so we had a slide that that makes this easier to see uh there's a couple exists we provide to actually probably help on on slide 35 um just so everybody knows what we're talking about we don't have to go through too many um units so this is the connection that we're talking about highlighted in purple and um you know to the last conversation like we we you know we've looked at this connection there's some some pretty significant grading challenges which i've got some some slides that sort of illustrate uh the the board had expressed a concern about being able to connect there and our at our sketch plan hearing the houses uh hemmed in legacy farm road and there was not sufficient width for a road ever there is we did in we did put in a 50 foot wide easement into the plan that would allow for that connection support the connection we're not proposing to build the connection but we have accommodated that might ever become something that's desirable to the city and so that there is space so so that being said you know that that was where we felt we could go was to sort of say there is space here this isn't going to be the case that you know this becomes a need and you're there's nothing you can do which was the the original case at sketch plan but there are a number of challenges here and and uh if you sort of move to the next slide we give a little more information on on what those challenges are and there's there's two slides this one the the scale is a little bit over dramatic but where that purple line is running in the image this is a a section view essentially if you cut through you know across the road and it shows you the amount of fill that the road would be on to make the road connection uh and Scott drew this he could you know maybe describe it better but essentially it's you know a 15 to 18 foot fill at the beginning heading on down into the field and if you go to the next slide you can see sort of how that would relate to buildings on the lots so right in the middle there where the yellow line is teeing into is your road and the buildings are on the left and right of it and the road is above the front doors so you know the grade wise it's just it's challenging there's a lot of earth movement that would be involved in making this connection and you know in terms of the benefits you know lies the sort of talk about it but essentially you know if you you're you're creating this vehicular connection to enable industrial commercial users access onto a small 20-foot wide residential street and you know we don't know what those users are but you know we do have a slide that sort of demonstrates some of the potential uses if you go to the the next one you know this is a crudely superimposed vision but it is 100 possible in the ic district that that's what those two lots end up looking and so i know requiring a road into that parking lot doesn't make a lot of sense it also would be prohibitive of that particular style of use being built although that's the style of use that the zoning is sort of conducive to and and it sort of would just create you know a cut through for two very non very dissimilar uses and if you go there's another one Delilah I think I've got the listed you know you can see what's sort of permitted in the ic district everything from lumber yards to contract the yards to RV dealerships something like Pete's RV or maybe one of their competitors since they're up the road but specifically prohibited is any residential use at all and so you know I think you know we have always we've had a vision of that area being a mixed use development and it's just not the reality of what's allowed under the zoning regulations and so we felt it's sort of providing that easement in that space in case there ever was a viable opportunity to do something here made sense but that creating you know right of way you know sort of has more more problems than benefit so so if I did live on hillside or east view and I did work at the new Pete's RV in the commercial industrial how would I how would I get there so go to one more slide ahead I think I might have a we did a map or maybe it's two so this is talking about the bifurcation of our planned wildlife corridor which this this potential road would bifurcate the planned wildlife corridor that the you know the natural resources committee had supported in their comments you know so you can see that on the plan the green sort of connection between the two yellow between Kimball Avenue and the Tilly Drive development we had we'd planned that sort of environmental connector which this road would would bifurcate with that big you know 15-foot hill on each side and I guess if you skip one more ahead to your question Matt sorry don't have these memorized maybe two more there it is so so we did a plan that's part of the packet that sort of gives you calculated travel times and so this is just illustrating sort of a walking path to work at the IC at Pete's RV or a driving path and we sort of calculated the distances going you know an average speed essentially your time to walk to work would be eight minutes your time to drive to work would be 3.3 minutes and at the average driving speed of 21 feet per second it would take you approximately as I say reduction in your drive time if the IC connector road was built would be approximately 87 seconds so by creating this connector road would save a commuter coming from our project to the IC about 87 seconds in the car we're all environmental and other constant right so I guess you got a slow problem you got a problem that it screws up your natural resources area your nature trails and all that your your habitat corridor um you got a problem that that this is a commercial area that you're not going to have that you could have a lumber yard or Pete's RVs there that you're not going to have that natural nexus between but I also get that it almost seems like two different projects here too without the connection which it is I mean really it means the same piece of land but it's it's a totally different it's not a mixed use like you have over in the northern end on that you're working on I think there's a lot of people who live in cities and even in Vermont who would kill for the short auto drive that's spelled out in purple here I mean that's not a bad commute yeah the the the interrupting that corridor just to create a a nexus or connection a more direct connection between the homes and the commercial industrial area is not it's tough for me to get over that one yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense other than creating a connection between the projects I mean but does there need to be one or should you just take Kimbalab to get from to get from your home on the on the hill there to the to your job on the at the pizza RV down the hill but what are your thoughts she just here no I'm here I just have network connectivity so I turned off my video um network connectivity issues um so two thoughts one is the applicant is proposing that the area to the right of the screen east of the wildlife corridor be part of this beauty what does it mean to be part of a beauty um and what connectivity is required to be part of a beauty um the staff comment 15 is recommending that there be a condition that connectivity between the residential and the industrial commercial area be provided no later than the time of the first industrial commercial lot being developed but leaves open the question of whether that should be pedestrian or vehicular connectivity um well I think that's the solution Marla I think to me as long as we insist on some sort of connectivity through a pedestrian path or bike way we preserve the nature area we require cars to take that xj 83 seconds but we have so many so much upside but yet we establish that connectivity to meet that that requirement to me that would do it for me but I don't know how everyone else feels yeah Matt I I agree you know again I kind of go back to the fact that you know early on I was a big proponent of making these connections and you know having more interconnectivity but you know when you see the technical of what it takes and how you actually have true impediments to getting that connection to happen you know the road profile would be crazy you know I think getting pedestrian connection and you know it's it's sufficient you know and whether you know I'd like to see it happen for you know to be planned when the the industrial park it's built out you know whether it's the first permit or some trigger mechanism but then I'd like to see it actually happen anyone else it just seems like it's a lot of effort to no end to add that the particular connection okay I'm looking at the I'm looking on a different screen at the aerial rendering which is fantastic because you can really see that slope between the east view neighborhood and the commercial industrial area I don't know if you have that but you can see you can see the outline of pedestrian past that connection I'm not sure how that again to qualify as a PUD and make sure that there is the connection how if that if that what you have on that aerial rendering is sufficient but yeah no that area should stay green it should stay a corridor for the habitat and we should and I don't think we should build a automobile road in between let's straightforward feedback we were at 10 o'clock so we went through 15 comments of 15 out of 47 my bonus five in the middle there it's almost a third you sure you want to go for one or two more no I can't I can't so but I do want to provide anyone that's hung in there and I want to say first off that anyone listening tonight has a comment we are not going to close obviously they can submit in writing they can comment at their next hearing or they have opportunity to comment now so I would offer anyone in the public that's listening in if you would like to comment on what you've heard tonight or what you want to hear later please enter your name in the chat box or just shout out hey Matt listening for anyone to shout their my name out and looking at the chat box and I don't see anyone John you're not still there are you no okay okay so Marla when should we continue this I have seen the big ol block of time on March 16th okay so I move that we continue I'm sure it's a name right I move that we continue SD 2040 a 500 old farm road to March 16th I will second that seconded by Don Mark hi Brian hi Alyssa hi Don and Matt what's I and we have continued this item to March 16th thank you everybody thank you everyone from your brand everyone else that thank you guys very much we appreciate it thank you very much it's really helpful thanks have a good night bye bye and next item on the agenda hold on I gotta pull it up is agenda item number six which is the minutes from February 2nd does everyone have a chance to look at the minutes are there any edits or additions hearing none I move that we approve the minutes from February 2nd 2021 a second seconded by Mark let's do a voice vote all in favor say aye aye any objections any abstentions and the minutes have passed number seven last item agenda is other business is there any other business from the board or from we look forward to a new member on March 3rd Stephanie Wyman um and everyone please vote either by mail or safely in person on March 2nd thank you and that concludes the top development review board meeting for Wednesday February 17th 2021 good night meeting for Wednesday yeah bye bye sir bye


And instead of looking like how religious Christians look like, oh, they're bad, they're sinning, they need to surrender. And those messages that are like, you need to stop sinning. And you know, instead of that, I saw people differently. I saw people like they just need their spiritual eyes opened up. They just need one encounter with the power of God. That's it. None of that condemnation, none of that judging. And that's Jesus' eyes. That's Jesus' heart. Amen. So my biggest passion and prayer from that day was, Lord, I want other people to encounter your power. And I knew how rare it was. I was an open Christian. I wasn't like a skeptical Christian. I was an open, childlike, heart Christian my whole life. And even then, it took me 25 years. I was 25 when I encountered the power of God. It took me 25 years to have my eyes open up and see that Jesus really moves in power today. So I knew there's so many people out there who haven't encountered this Jesus, a true Jesus. There's so many. The power of God is rare. And I did not know how directly God was going to answer my prayer, my prayer that other people could encounter the power of God. When I prayed that, it was not meaning God used me, put your power in me. But that was my prayer. And I was pursuing being a pop EDM Christian singer-songwriter at the time. I had been searching for so long. What is my calling? It was like the fifth thing I was trying from being a musical theater person on stage to event planning, to wedding planning, to acting, to finally, I thought I found my calling. I said, this is it. I'm called to be a Christian pop EDM singer-songwriter. I didn't know I could write music, but the melody and words just came easily. And I put out music videos and it just was put together so professionally and it just worked so well. I was like, finally, I found my calling. Everyone's telling me, you're going to make it. All my friends and family, so much encouragement, so much support, you're going to make it. I said, yes, I found my calling. And so I'm pursuing that. I put out two music videos already and singles and one day, nine months after I encountered the power of God, I attend a prophetic healing conference and I'm expectant, there's a prophet ministering and it was a prophet before where I first encountered the power of God, so I'm expectant. And I go there and the prophet prophesies to me, you're actually called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ and you're called to reach the nations. And upon hearing that, I was completely shocked, public speaking and preaching was my biggest fear and weakness. I had no desire to preach, no desire to minister. I would watch many sermons, many preachers and not one time was I like, maybe I could do that. Not one time. And public speaking was truly my biggest fear. Leading groups of people was my biggest fear and weakness as well. In college, we would have presentations.  I felt so nervous more than anything to just speak in front of 10 people and I was never one to step up and lead a group project of even four people. I just sat back. So now God was calling me in my, literally my biggest weakness and you can look at me now and maybe think, is she telling the truth? You can ask my past friends. Really, Jesus has done a mighty work. Hallelujah. Because it really was my biggest fear and weakness. And so when I received that word, I was shocked. I was like, how can this be possible? And I was also like, what about music? Can you prophesy about my music? I mean, this was my dream. I was so excited about and I was believing in. You know how we think about our dream, right? I was picturing it. So I was like, man, what about music? What happened to that? I thought that for sure was my calling. But in that moment when I received that prophecy, God just reminded me of Moses and how God called Moses to be a prophet, a mouthpiece and a leader of millions of people and he says, I can't speak, I stutter.  I made your mouth. I'll give you the words to speak and it's going to be God's power that works in him, not Moses's. It's going to be God's power giving him the ability so he can get the most glory. God reminded me of that in that moment and he just reminded me like, this is how I really work, Catherine. This is the Bible. You don't see this much today. But every story we read in the Bible, people feel not qualified. They feel like, how on earth can I do this?  Don't worry. I'm going to give you the ability. I'm going to give you the power and I'm going to get the glory through this. I get the glory when I use the weak and foolish things to confound the wise. So, you know, I had completely surrendered to God and met it with my heart nine months before that.  He prepares you to receive your calling. He prepares you for this. And I look back in my life and I see how before I had encountered the power of God, I was not ready to receive my calling. I needed to surrender to receive my calling. So that I see, I see how God, I knew God called me out to LA to pursue acting, but that wasn't the end goal. But that was God's beautiful way to get me out there. So lead me out there to position me to really meet him, encounter him, and then be able to surrender. So then he could release this prophecy to me and I could actually accept it. I was able to quickly and accept this prophecy, this calling from God quickly. That day I accepted it. I didn't take time to think on it. I knew God was speaking. I knew it was God speaking. And I meant that surrender nine months prior. I meant that with my heart. All I wanted was to obey God and be in his will. I wanted his plans not mine. I really meant it. And so even though I was kind of confused, I was shocked. I was like, how on earth will this happen? How will I be able to do this? Even though I was grieving already this music dream, because I knew I would have to put it aside. I obeyed. I accepted the call. I was able to accept the call because I had surrendered. When your heart is God, whatever your will is, I want it. You will be in God's will. And many of you may be wondering, am I really in God's will? What's my purpose? God is so amazing. He will never lead you astray. He knows exactly where you are right now. He knows exactly what he needs to do. Who he needs to send you. The doors he needs to open up.  All you need to do is surrender. Surrender and seek him. And really with your heart, God, I just want your will every day. I just want your will. I just want to touch your heart. And when that is your heart, you don't have to do anything else. God will do the rest. God will lead you perfectly, open doors, send people if he needs to, to prophesy, to speak a word, give you a dream, give you a vision. He will do the rest. Hallelujah. So I received the call and then I entered the most uncomfortable season of my life. Because it's comfortable. It was comfortable for me to sing. I felt I'm good at this. I'm good at this. Yeah, I feel comfortable here. But I really learned what Paul had said, how I boast in my weaknesses. God gets more of the glory. God can move more powerfully and be strengthened in me more when I am weak. God can be revealed more. And so now I was forced to rely on God like never before. God called me to start five-fold church, start a church on top of all this uncomfortable preaching that I felt so inadequate for. Now he's calling me to actually start a church. Remember, leading a group is my biggest fear and weakness as well. So now shortly after, he's calling me to start a church and I started out by going to the mountain top, a mountain top in LA, Mahalan Drive. And I went out there. I bought a piano, which we still use. A battery-operated piano I bought. And I didn't even have money. I was able to get a credit card at Guitar Center. And I bought the battery-operated piano and a battery-operated speaker and microphone and music stand. And I went out to the mountain and I led worship and I preached in both. And the first time I think there was one person that came, I would make announcements on Facebook groups, Christian Facebook groups about our worship nights and on the mountain and some people would come maybe like 10 tops but usually just two or three, a little handful.  It was terrifying. I was like, what on earth will I speak? Will people be touched? I battled these insecurities so much. Will people be blessed? I don't see myself as a preacher. I don't see myself as a minister. I don't see myself this way. But God called me. I had to push away all those lies of the enemy and just focus on this. God called me. God told me to do this. And God will be faithful. God will give me the words to speak. God will be with me. God will touch the people. And so I went up there trembling inside. People couldn't notice. But I spoke. God gave me the words. I was a baby. But still God gave me the words. Amen. And I remember the next week I was like, what will I preach on now? I preach all I know how to preach. What more can I preach? And I would go up there. I would be dreading it. But God would come through. And God would give me the words. And he would touch people. And this went on for week after week. This feeling of so uncomfortable. This feeling of what will I preach next? I constantly, honestly, for a long time, for years, I felt inadequate. I felt so insecure. I felt not good enough. I felt so insecure. I felt not good enough. Not good enough. I felt like not a good enough preacher for years. But feelings, many times, are not to truth. God's word is the truth. That is the truth.  Confidence isn't feeling confident. True confidence is pushing away the devil's lies. That are giving you these feelings that contradict what God has said. And choosing to believe God's word and obeying God's word. And stepping forward anyway, despite how you feel. That's true confidence. It's not your feelings. So many times, people don't step up because they think these feelings are truth. So I think I'm not confident.  And whatever you're called to do, the devil will send those lies that you're not good enough. Because he's terrified of the calling on your life. He's terrified of what you will do for God. So you got to be aware. You got to be aware of the devil's schemes. So, for then God called me to go into a church building. We had for about almost four years there would be between three people that would be in church to around 15 or so. Usually more like 10 or 12. Every Sunday. And honestly, probably up until about a year ago or so. Those feelings have not been good enough. Those feelings that I'm not a good enough preacher that people won't be touched remained. Every Sunday. I would dread every Saturday because I had to prepare what I was going to speak on. And I was like, oh boy, here come Sunday, the most uncomfortable day for me. Right? But God would be faithful. Every single week he would give me words to speak. He would come through. And he would touch people. And Jean-Tal, Jean-Tal hears on the camera. She's amazing. She's truly like how David had Jonathan. It was a spiritual friendship. It was not like a physical. It was this supernatural love. And it was this... They both... Their biggest love was to obey God and please him. And God put them together with this united vision. And Jonathan could see David's call, believed David's call for his life. God's call on David's life. And recognize that he was called to support support him and do the work of God together. Amen. And so God gave me Jean-Tal. Is this amazing? Like Jonathan. And so she's been here in the ministry since almost the beginning. Almost the beginning, the first year she came. And she's just been the most amazing blessing. And every Sunday I would feel these inadequate feelings, these insecurities. And there's just like 15 people and you know when there's just a small group of people you're not seeing a lot of like, yeah, amen, right? It's just kind of quiet. You know, blank faces, right? It's just the nature of it when it's a small group of people, right? And so the whole time I'm preaching I would just be like, I'm feeling these hearing these lies. You're not good enough. You're not good enough. You're not a good enough preacher. And I would just push through and keep preaching the word of God with passion. And I would just focus on these are God's people that need to hear this word and God's going to speak through me and they need to hear this word. And this is truth. I'm not preaching just a preach. Amen. If God would give me words, I would compare myself before to other preachers. But God would speak to me, just be yourself. You know, speak from your heart, speak what I've taught you. Don't try to be like somebody else.  Don't try to be funny if that's not you. Don't try to make these big, you know, metaphors, right? Alliterations, right? I would look at all these preaching styles. I would look at all just be you and just speak from your heart. And so I would just, what I would preach was just my heart. Not me trying to preach a good sermon. And that's what Apostle Paul says. I come to you not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the power of God. Your faith would not rest on my fancy words, my fancy preaching, my good sermon. How much I can tell you how good, how real God is by my words. Your faith wouldn't rest on those words. Oh, that was a good word, you know. But your faith would rest on the power of God. So when we don't try to be impressive, be fancy, look cool, right? But when we speak from the heart, what God's really spoke to us, taught us, don't try to make it extra and fancy, but just speak the simple truth that God's given us. The simple revelation. Simple. Then God's power can move through you. Then you can receive this anointing and upon your words, they're simple. But now anointing is touching people because your words carry power. Apostle Paul's words carried power that was touching people and they were being transformed. They were leaving transformed. I remember I went to so many Sunday services my whole entire life. I hardly ever missed a Sunday. And I wouldn't leave changed. Most every time I had to remind myself, oh yes, God loves me. And I wasn't moving beyond that. It's like I had to hear that milk word again. Like I didn't believe God loves me for years. And I wasn't changing. I wasn't growing because there wasn't anointing where I was going. But it's supposed to be as ministers we carry the power of God not just releasing the miracles but the words. The words release now carry anointing and it's feeding your spirit man. Your spirit man is being fed, is coming alive more now. Is being transformed.  You leave here, you leave the church where you received anointing, the anointed word and you're more spiritual. You're more spiritual just from receiving that anointing. Just from your spirit man being fed. So you're desiring to go to the word of God. You're desiring to spend time with God. It's not supposed to be so hard to be more like Jesus to transform more into his image. The anointing his anointing is, yokes light it says. So when there's the anointing there's this ease. As long as you're seeking God and surrendering there's this ease. It's not such a struggle.  So I would preach week after week I would hear all these insecurities I during the whole service, service would end there's only like 15 people in the service pretty much every week and do you know like hardly anyone would tell me afterwards like that blessed me like thank you for the word that like I was touched by the word. But Jean-Tau would almost almost every pretty much every single week. It was only one person and God used her to strengthen me so much. Never underestimate the power of encouraging your brothers and sisters. You don't know how much they need to hear that simple word. She had no clue and she was just speaking from the heart she was just like that was awesome I was blessed you know and it was literally God moving through her and distinguishing all those lies of the enemy amen. So for years for years it was just hearing one person say I'm blessed and dealing with those lies every time. Then about three years ago God called me to and I don't know is that the time where 10 minutes left? I didn't look. 15 minutes left. Okay cool. About three years ago God spoke to me the way that these prophecies will come to pass and revival is going to break out and more people will receive through your ministry and miracles will happen you need to make one minute videos and put them on all social media platforms and people are going to be touched by these videos and you need to keep doing this you need to keep making these videos be diligent, don't stop keep doing it until you see the walls of Jericho coming down you need to go around the walls again and again and again and again until those walls come down and so I taught myself how to edit I didn't know how to edit and I would spend so many hours every day sometimes 13 hour days editing these videos and they got hardly any views for years for years I had just like 1000 followers on Instagram and on YouTube there would be like 7 views and I would deal with those enemies lies of see you're not a good enough preacher see people aren't being touched by your videos what you're doing isn't working it's been 3 years what you're doing isn't working I would hear those lies again and again but I kept believing the word of God that was spoken over my life I kept reminding myself of that word believing that what God had said would come to pass and the way it would come to pass is if I would just be obedient it was up to me now to walk around those walls of Jericho every day for years and you know when they were walking around the walls of Jericho you know what it seemed foolish you know this is how they were going to inherit the promised land this is how they were going to defeat these huge armies that were bigger and more powerful than them that was what God said he says the army that's bigger than you is going to be defeated when you just walk around a bunch of times and then my power will come through it'll be my power that defeats the enemies but you got to do this and it makes no sense in the carnal mind to walk around a wall and make music and noise think about it it would make more sense to train yourself how to shoot arrows better to defeat the armies inside or lift weights or something that seems like a better use of your time but how is walking around a wall making noise going to make you to defeat this huge army it doesn't make sense in the physical realm and you know what else there was not progress it appeared in the physical realm in the physical realm they did not see bricks coming off the wall upon each time around the wall some bricks are falling down this time this is working this is working what we're doing it was blind faith it was this makes no sense in the physical realm I'm just obeying God and I believe that as I obey him he's going to come through in his power and do the impossible amen and so that's what it was like in my life I wasn't seeing progress I wasn't seeing more views each day I wasn't seeing more views each year in the church it would decrease people would come and people would go I thought in my mind what God called me to I don't know how this is going to happen but I believe it's going to happen and you know what I think there's probably going to be progress each year I think maybe there will be 10 people in the church this year maybe there will be 15 at least next year maybe 20 maybe the next year there can be at least 30 maybe I wasn't even thinking big yet there was no progress there was no progress in the physical realm it would literally decrease there would literally be I remember in the first year there was like 20 people and then people would leave and I went through a spiritual warfare like I never had in my entire life because I was now walking in anointing you know David Joseph as soon as both of them it was revealed they were anointed the calling of God upon their life was spoken and revealed to them and released publicly and they're walking in it that is when they encountered crazy supernatural warfare like never before that is when the devil sees uh oh I'm terrified of the calling on their life even though it's just day one and they're not doing anything powerful yet the devil knows the spiritual realm he knows he knows better than most of us most people are more in the carnal way we don't see how powerful we are through Christ we don't see our potential where God has really taken us if we'll just obey but the devil sees and so when he sees someone's heart that has a usable heart that God can trust anointing with the devil can see when you have an obedience surrendered heart so the devil could see Joseph and David he could see where they were going so he came at them both of them in crazy crazy evil ways I mean the spiritual warfare they faced was so much more intense than other people who weren't anointed right? or who didn't have big callings on their lives right? I mean Joseph his brothers put him in a pit to die that's you don't hear that on the news today I mean that's real evil that's really the devil trying so hard because he's terrified of the anointing he ends up in a prison and he was innocent later on he ends up in a prison David he's nothing but a blessing to Saul he's literally his anointing is making demons to flee and relieving Saul he's making Saul's army to prosper his kingdom to prosper he's nothing but a blessing to Saul but Saul is full of jealousy and now is trying to kill him the extreme of kill him sending all of his huge armies to try to kill David you don't hear about that on the news that's some intense supernatural evil very kind of evil warfare coming his way it's intense it's not natural this is supernatural kind of attacks right? you see? before David and Joseph were doing anything big anything big just from the beginning they were getting this crazy warfare and it looked like they were going backwards in the physical realm look at Joseph he gets this dream and he's thinking okay I can't wait until the dream is going to come to pass I'm going to go forward make progress next thing you know he's in a pit away from the promise right? it looks like he's going backwards in the physical realm later on he's a slave looks like he's going backwards then he's in the prison looks like he's going backwards not closer to the promise in the physical realm but in the spiritual realm oh he was getting closer and closer each day he was getting closer and closer each day why? because to carry anointing to walk in this big call you need to be refined by the fire you have to go through that process you have to allow the testing to occur Jesus as soon as he was about to go into ministry first he had to go in the wilderness led by the Holy Spirit to be tempted by the devil this is how it works devil is so angry wants to stop you God will allow the attacks seeing what you can handle knowing what you can handle he will allow it to be this refining fire testing amen God never forsook Joseph or David God was with them everywhere God knew they're getting closer because their heart is being transformed more into the image of God their faith was growing through all of those trials the only way their faith could grow is for it to be tested is to go through those trials and so I mean the bigger the calling on your life the bigger the refining fire the bigger the process it might not necessarily be the longer the process but if it's going to be a shorter process it's going to be very intense very intense and so that is what I experienced that is what I experienced when I stepped into this anointing I started seeing this the Bible come alive like Joseph like David I mean jealousy seeing jealousy like I never saw in my life before seeing the devil use people coming at me with hatred like I never experienced in my life before seeing betrayal seeing lies made up about me seeing gossip, rumors being made and spread and people believing lies about me like never before in my life but I kept reminding myself of the word of God I kept reminding myself of Joseph and David and I said I see what's going on wow the devil is terrified of the calling on my life this is what's necessary I have to go through this battle just like David did just like Joseph all I care about is pleasing you God all I care about is being in your will and I know that to get where you call me to be I have to go through this I had to lead Jesus through the wilderness I know I have to do this so I would go through and I would remind myself I'm pleasing God right now this is not easy this is difficult I did not expect this but I'm in God's will I'm pleasing him this is where he's leading me so he can refine my heart God do whatever you need to do you call me to something big God do whatever you need to do to transform my heart to make me a usable vessel of you that can walk in anointing amen I see the times up I don't know how strict the time is we can just continue where we left off though who should I ask about this is it you hi I see the times up should I just pause for now I can continue for a moment would you say would you say oh praise God praise God hallelujah we can continue with the rest of my testimony in the next session amen I just want to end with man I never faced spiritual warfare like that in my life but what kept me strong was renewing my mind with the word of God with the prophecy over my life and with the written word of God and seeing man I never saw this kind of warfare in my life before so wow this is what's going on I'm encouraged that the devil's trying this hard I'm encouraged amen and it made me closer to God than ever because I had to lean on him like never before I needed his comfort and and it's like I would feel alone like only he knew what I was going through and as a leader I couldn't you know God didn't call me to vent and to complain and you know he called me to be a leader to be strong and so I started entering this place of growing closer to God more than ever before where it's like only you know God what I'm going through and I would hear God say to me I'm proud of you I'm proud of you for standing strong I'm proud of you for going through this and I didn't hear an audible voice honestly when I say I heard God telling me this it was it was simply renewing my mind with what he's spoken to me and his heart you know I knew this is his heart he's proud of me for obeying him he sees what I'm going through it says David was a man after God's own heart because he just wanted to please God he was willing to go through the battles just to be in God's will just to please him and so I knew that was my God so I knew he was saying you're a woman after my own heart right now thank you for pleasing me thank you for obeying me thank you for going through this I would remind myself this is what God's speaking and through these hard times I experienced God than ever before and so this refining fire yes it's uncomfortable it's shocking like you start seeing how evil the devil is and you're like wow the devil can really work through people like this you know like making up lies like I never experienced people make up lies about me before like weird stuff like that you know so it's heartbreaking it's beautiful you know every season with God is beautiful the valleys and the mountains are beautiful because true life is intimacy with Jesus that's what brings the most peace, joy and contentment is intimacy is touching your father's heart is pleasing him that's it so it doesn't matter on the mountain or the valley if I'm pleasing God I'm happy amen God taught me true contentment through all through all that hard season I never was without peace I never was without peace or contentment and God taught me what Paul spoke I learned how to be content no matter the circumstances I've learned I learned through this God taught me this is how you be content remind yourself all that matters is pleasing God that's it I just want to be in God's will so if it's God's will for me to be in this place right now that's uncomfortable I'm content because that's my biggest desire in this whole world amen hallelujah this has been amazing we can wrap right now for this session and I'm so looking forward to the next one hallelujah amen so right now it is 10.11 am with 44 seconds and so what we're going to do we're going to take a 15 minute break I want to encourage you bathrooms are out this door to my left your right and then just be back by let's say 10.30


The United States Institute of Peace is very pleased to welcome you to this special discussion of the 1951 United Nations Convention on Refugees. We are honored to have with us the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador Linda Thomas Greenfield, to reflect on the convention and its future. When it was adopted in the early 1950s, the convention was both ambitious and necessary. It defined a clear set of rights for people who had been forced to flee their countries because of well-founded fear of persecution. Most importantly, the right not to be expelled, except under strictly defined conditions. The convention also established a set of responsibilities and obligations for the countries which host refugees, including the obligation to protect them. It's hard to overstate the historic significance of the convention. The convention set clear universal norms, it established binding obligations on states, and it required a level of international cooperation that was unprecedented and remains so today. The convention turned 70 this year. Many of us believe that in a world where there are now more than 26 million refugees, it's as relevant as it's ever been before. But there are others of us who wonder whether the convention can continue to be effective in the face of global disruption, pandemics, climate change which alone could displace a billion people in the next 30 years, violent extremism, illicit trans-border criminal networks, and interstate violence. We're very fortunate that Ambassador Thomas Greenfield is here to discuss these issues. Ambassador Thomas Greenfield is a distinguished diplomat with 35 years of experience in the U.S. Foreign Service, including serving as ambassador to Liberia and postings in Switzerland, Pakistan, Kenya, the Gambia, Nigeria, and Jamaica. In Washington, Ambassador Thomas Greenfield has served as principal deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of African Affairs and as deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of Population Refugees and Migration. Ambassador Thomas Greenfield, thank you for joining us. Before we begin our conversation, please allow us to turn the floor over to you for opening comments. Well, let me just start by thanking you so much for having me here today and hosting this important event. I think recognizing the 70th year of the convention and its protocols is an important event for us to celebrate. This protocol, this convention has survived 70 years and for 70 years it has provided protection and rights for people who are the most vulnerable around the world. And I think it deserves our recognition, it deserves a celebration, and we deserve to recognize the important role that countries who have played host to many millions of refugees have provided them hospitality, provided them protection that we give those countries the recognition that they deserve after 70 years of the convention. So thank you. Ambassador, with your permission we would like to ask you a series of questions and we would like to start with a question about the pressure that the convention is under. So when the convention was adopted, there were roughly 2.5 million stateless people in the world, but there are now 26 million refugees and if you add up all the people who are displaced, including people displaced in their own countries, it's well over 80 million. I think what many of us observe is that there are worrying signs that a number of countries, and you spoke about the ones that have supported and continue to support the convention, but there are worrying signs that there are others who are not upholding their obligations. It's also, I think, disturbing that year in and year out for the last 15 years we've fallen short of the financial costs of supporting refugee operations. For 15 years we've been able globally to mobilize the resources that are necessary. So the question that we'd like to ask you is why aren't governments around the world upholding their end of the bargain and what can the United States do in its privileged role to encourage more compliance? Well thank you for that question and let me just start out by saying the convention was a watershed moment in 1951 when it actually defined what a refugee is and it also provided protections for those refugees and it provided for commitments of countries who signed on to the convention to protect those individuals who had been defined as a refugee. And that hasn't changed in 71 years. And it hasn't changed, the fact that it hasn't changed does not mean that commitments for protection have diminished. I think if we look at countries, and I'll start with our own, with the United States, our commitment to refugees is as strong as it ever was. We've had moments in previous years where there have been questions about our commitments, but we have continued to reaffirm our commitment. And as you know, President Biden is in the process right now of reaffirming our commitment to refugees and immigrants. The United States is one of the largest contributors to humanitarian and refugee programs. And we, as part of our responsibilities, and I've worked on refugee issues most of my career, we work on encouraging other countries to recommit and to reestablish and reaffirm their commitments to refugees. And while sometimes it wades and it flows, in most cases those protections have continued. And I particularly want to give a shout out to refugee hosting countries where there are some countries where they are hosting more refugees than they have in their own populations. And we need to support those countries and encourage them to continue with their hospitality. Ambassador, the forces that are driving migration, that are driving refugee flows have changed over time. Many of the forces that are now the main factors behind a person's decision or being forced to leave are different than they were 70 years ago. And just to name a few, hunger, conflict, economic deprivation, and now climate change. I think many of us are concerned that we address those factors in the countries where people come from, so they're not forced to flee. And in that regard, what can the U.S. do to help address those kinds of issues in countries so people don't feel that their only choice is to leave everything behind? Absolutely. It is important that we focus on root causes. And as you know, the Biden administration, when we look at climate change, made the decision on the first day of the administration to rejoin the climate convention. And part of that decision is about looking for solutions to dealing with issues of climate change, those issues that might have the effect of pushing people away from their own countries. And it is important that we address those root causes. We have huge development programs. We're working with the United Nations, with the UNHCR, UNICEF, and other organizations to support people in their place of refuge, whether as IDPs in their own country, or if they have made the decision to cross the border into neighboring countries. And those programs look to assist them. But we're also trying to find solutions for them, permanent solutions for them that will help them either return back to their country or return back to their homes if they have not crossed the border. And if we don't deal with root causes, we will continue to have people making the tough decision. And I say the word tough very deliberately, because it is a tough decision for people to make to leave their homes and leave what they're familiar with to cross into another country where they are totally dependent on others for assistance. You know, one of the critiques of the convention is that it only focuses on refugees, people who have been forced to flee their country and seek refuge or asylum in another place. What it doesn't do is to provide a framework for the protection and support to people who are distanced out of their country and who don't flee, internally displaced persons. In your view, and having worked in this domain for so many years, what more can the international community, what more can the U.S. do to protect internally displaced persons? And if you look proportionally at the numbers of people, this question is not without relevance. There are literally double the number of displaced people globally than there are refugees. Certainly the convention was developed to support refugees because that was the crisis of the time. And we do have new crises where we have larger populations of internally displaced people. And there are protections that are being provided to those people inside their country, including assistance being provided to them. And an example that I can share with you is inside of Syria. Just a few weeks ago in New York, we were working on ensuring that the last border crossing from Turkey into Syria remain open to support IDPs inside of Syria, whose lifeline was being provided to them through this border crossing. And the entire international community worked on this issue. And I'm very proud that the Security Council had a unanimous vote to support keeping this border crossing open for IDPs. So I think the message here is that we're not forgetting people who are displaced inside of their countries. We're always looking for solutions. And sometimes those solutions are very difficult to achieve, but we're looking for solutions so that we can give people a lifeline of hope. One of the historic features of the convention was the fact that in order for it to succeed, there had to be unprecedented levels of international cooperation. And for many of the last 70 years we had that. There are uncomfortable questions about whether we continue to have the same level and degree and depth and breadth of that kind of cooperation. The kind that you just described for the border crossing from Turkey into Syria. May we ask Ambassador, in light of the current tensions in the international community, do you still hold out hope that the kind of cooperation that's necessary to protect refugees we can count on in the future? And if we can't count on it, what will we place it? You know, I guess this is sort of a character flaw that I had. And that character flaw is I am always hopeful. It is never, there's never a time when we give up hope and we work to find means to get around obstacles. So for the Syria border crossing, the international community, the Security Council was not unified initially. We expected that Russia was going to veto that resolution, but we found a way to work together, to cooperate, to get a unanimous vote. And I don't think anyone thought that that was achievable. I actually always thought it was achievable and my goals actually were not reached because had I been completely successful, we would have not only kept that one border crossing open, we would have reopened the ones that closed. But I always had hope that we could achieve something because ultimately what this is about is people. It's about, it's life and death. It's about hope. It's about providing for the basic needs of people who are in a position of not being able to provide for their own needs. And I think that simple equation is enough to get the international community eventually to come to a place of providing the assistance and the protection that vulnerable people require. And so you always have a measure of hope and then another dose of extremely hard work and you can always be assured that you will get something out of those efforts. If you allow a gentle response, if you call that a character fly, everyone else would call that the hallmark of a great diplomat. Ambassador, I know that you have recently been, you mentioned to Syria and to other countries where you've had a chance to talk with refugees. Can you share with us some of the stories from them that touched you the most? You know, I was, as I mentioned, I was at the Syria border and I saw the extraordinary work that was being done by humanitarian workers, NGOs, United Nations, as well as local organizations to support people who were in need. And I asked the question and I've repeated this several times so people have heard it over and over again but it really had an impact on me. I said, how are people coping with COVID in light of everything else that is happening? And one of the organizations said they were told by a refugee woman that COVID was just another reason to die. And that struck me. It was like a stab in the heart that people are not necessarily so worried about COVID because there's so many other reasons for them to die. That COVID is just another one on top of everything else that they have to deal with. And I think that is really a message for the international community that we absolutely need to continue to support these populations in need. Very well said Ambassador. And I will share with you also, I was just across the border in Maryland yesterday. I went to visit an organization called Casa de Maryland and it's a refugee organization that supports immigrants and refugees who are coming to the United States. And I actually got to hear the stories of some of the refugees who had crossed the border into the United States. And then hear the stories of the volunteers in Prince George's County who are supporting people who have come across the border. And all of the stories were moving. It was moving to hear what the refugees themselves had gone through and what their hopes and dreams were. But also moving, as moving to hear from volunteers, many of them who had been refugees themselves tell what they were doing to give back to the refugee community. So we have stories right here in the United States that I think are worthy of being repeated. Ambassador, you mentioned that the United States for many years has been one of the most generous donors to refugee operations. And it's, I think, a milestone in our international diplomacy that has been the case. It's very clear now when you start talking about 26 million refugees that the cost of supporting them the way they deserve in our title to be supported is very expensive. How do you see the international community working better to make sure that the burden of protecting and assisting refugees is shared more equally? Well, first and foremost, we all have to honor our commitments. And many countries make commitments to support refugees. And we have to ensure that those countries honor those commitments that they have that they've made. And the U.S. is a country where we have honored our commitment. We have, the United States has been the largest recipient of refugee resettlement. We've resettled more than 3.2 million refugees in the United States since about the 1980s. And we continue to be a beacon of hope for those refugees who are seeking asylum in the United States. We are also the largest contributor to refugee programs across the world. We provide a significant portion of the budgets for the UN High Commission for Refugees, for the International Committee for Red Cross, International Organization for Migration, as well as a large number of non-governmental organizations working in the refugee space. And there was a period I have to admit over the past four years where people began to question where the U.S. commitment would continue. But I'm proud to say that we have reasserted ourselves and we're rebuilding the infrastructure that provides support for refugee programs. And we continue to be that beacon of hope. Ambassador, that leads us to our final question. I think it's very obvious to everyone that the Biden administration, that the U.S. government has made humanitarian issues and human rights a major priority in our international and multilateral engagement. As the representative of the United States and the world's most important multilateral forum, the United Nations, what are your plans for carrying that vision, that commitment, that engagement forward? I do it every single day. It's at the forefront of everything I do, whether it is making sure that the Security Council discusses in an open meeting the situation that's happening in Ethiopia as it relates to Tigray, and pushing every member of the Security Council to agree to having that open meeting, or using my platform to go to Syria, to go to Turkey, sorry, to the Syrian border, to raise the profile of that issue internationally, or as recently as my visit to Haiti on Friday where I led a delegation that really had two purposes in mind. One, to say to the people of Haiti that the United States has not forgotten you, but the second, to also message to the leadership of Haiti that they had a responsibility to stabilize the situation in that country. And while ultimately we're going to require many more visits like that to achieve what we need to achieve, I work every day to keep this on the front burner. And I think that my more than 35 year career in the Foreign Service, in which I focused on refugee and humanitarian issues about half of that career, I think shows that I am committed to this, and it's been a lifetime commitment for me, and I'll continue until my last breath. Ambassador, thank you. Thank you to our virtual audience for tuning in. You can find a recording of this event and other important conversations on our website at USIP. We encourage everyone to share this event on Twitter using the hashtag refugee convention at 70. Ambassador, we're honored that you were with us, and we want to thank you for your candid and very inspiring reflections. I'm one of the most important cornerstones of international humanitarian and human rights law, the 1951 Convention on Refugees. Well, thank you so much for allowing me to celebrate the 70th year of the convention with you.


Hello and welcome to the session let's discuss the following question it says a company knows on the basis of its past experience that 3% of its bulbs are defective. Using Poisson's distribution find the probability that in a sample of 100 bulbs no bulb is defective. So let's now move on to the solution here we have to find the probability that in a sample of 100 bulbs no bulb is defective. So here N is 100 and the probability of success that is P that is the probability of choosing a defective bulb is 3% which is equal to 3 by 100. Now let X denotes a number of defective bulbs. The Poisson's distribution is given by probability of the random variable X at r is given by m to the power r e to the power minus m upon r factorial where m is the mean of the distribution which is given by the formula n into P n is 100 P is 3 by 100. So the mean is 3 now we have to find the probability that no bulb is defective that is we have to find the probability at X is equal to 0 so it is equal to 3 to the power 0 e to the power minus 3 upon 0 factorial 3 to the power 0 is 1 e to the power minus 3 upon 0 factorial is 1 so this is equal to e to the power minus 3 which is given to us as 0.04979 hence the probability that in a sample of 100 bulbs no bulb is defective is 0.04979 so this completes the question and the session you must remember the Poisson's distribution and how do we find mean so this completes the question and the session by for now take care have a good day.