Boys, what's up, man? It's tournament time. You guys have loved these videos in the past gonna break down all these games This is the MCS wild card tournament quarter million dollars up for here We played the ladders you guys watch tons of my ladder game on YouTube Thank you guys for supporting it like and comment and do that right now before we even start closing on 40,000 subscribers But we finished 36 or yeah 36 over on the ladders We were like probably 12 games over 500 something like that played over 40 games of ladders I absolutely loved it ladders is what makes me great playing good comp all the time getting better learning the game Against the best players in the world. That's what's always made me better So I love that opportunity to play every single night the streams were popping the YouTube was popping We are farming everything boys. This was game one. We played probably the 180 seeds something like this a guy I played a couple times throughout the year and in the last couple years of Madden. So I felt comfortable going into the game Let's talk about it. Let's take a look man. I'm in New Orleans playbook. I am in four six defense I want to run a little tight a little bunch a little stack audible round run the ball keep things Slow things down a little bit freestyle a lot kind of what I did in man 17 18 You know not necessarily stuck in one formation Just whatever is best for the defense man We want to get things involved and and move things around, you know I'm definitely using John L way the only quarterback out there heavy man coverage defense. We're still throwing some eggs We see the opportunity. So let's go ahead. Let's just get right into it boys. We're not nothing cute here This is the first game Here we go you see we're kicking the ball off first That's always the way to go always makes things a lot bit a lot easier when you can kick the ball off And and you know Allow yourself To what you're gonna call it to get the ball a half. So essentially it's like a built-in possession or it's a built-in Built-in stop really But you see him come out in this all right He comes out in this like two-back thing. So definitely run the ball first play now I'm a old-head too. So I'll run the ball first play a lot too because you know Just want to get your your nerves out of the way.  Essentially what their scheme is big man. They're gonna have zone knockouts. They're gonna be his own They're gonna have man knockouts.  He has two tall Jones with lurker I mean, what's that gonna be? Maybe using a D lineman something like that? Along those lines. So now he's gonna go into this tight Y off and this is what he's gonna be in the majority of the game here And you see Right now. I actually did the defense the computer called my defense now. I wouldn't waste the time out for this I'm just gonna audible to cover for here. Just play safe defense. I'm not gonna waste the time out I was doing something and just just not paying attention or not not dialed in all the way and here He's actually gonna know how to me, but I'm gonna stay here.  This is not my defense I want to be in He's able to run here get that first down. You see he has Darren Waller at running back Which is tough. So now we're back in dollar a little bit of spinner man coverage here He's gonna try to run on this again Just put bodies around there.  Oh, man.  It's just motion out wall or you'll see a streak to Calvin You'll see a sea route to wall or you'll see a corner out to Mike Williams and then a whip route underneath here. Oh Flat row he goes for right there gets nothing fourth and two early in the game. Love to see this same thing Man, he's gonna motion out wall or it's a easy.  That's madden 23 the most unpredictable man coverage game ever Here we go that time first down we shifted our line To guard the running or to guard inside zone there So that's what something I did you I really wanted to stop inside zone I'd shift my line left here He goes with a play-action goes for a ag and Dion knocks it out eggs are gonna be a big part of this game as they are a big part of man 23 once again motions out Looks for that wall or on a sea route go corner robble.  I think I got the animation to block this field goal, but I tripped Yeah, look, that's the block animation This is the block animation, but I trip you know, we actually get a block and Sugs if you guys watch it it slows down. We're gonna get the block, but I trip Just unlucky, but he gets three points. We'll always sign up for that every single time three points Is it's definitely a stop or I want to say stop, but you get a lot of Momentum you feel good about that drive. So we're gonna start out a little tight here He's in nickel normal looks like her over G something like that We're gonna just run the ball here just try to get something I the run is so bad though, man Like they just shed so easily, but I want to keep I want to play safe I guess, you know, that's what the run is here. We're gonna look for a corner out It's just man coverage or it's just zone coverage. You see he's on two tall. We knew that from Looking at his looking at his abilities too tall with lurker He's user in the detackle wide open corner out against that cover three here We're gonna go to a little bunch right here first down. We're gonna run the ball I'm old head Not much doing now. You guys know I hate the run during You know weekend league games or ranked seasons games But man when the games get tight you want to do the easy plays you want to do the safe plays Only three things can happen when you pass the ball and two of them are bad So you definitely want to keep it safe, but I don't play like that during Regular game regular head to head games and I think that hurts me because of my you know I'm really not that good at running because I don't do it all the time But here we're gonna pick up a nice little seven yards and we get to a third and short here third and short And this is one reason why I don't like running that much because I go to pass Right and I and I'm not I haven't passed that much. I have one completed pass so far So I'm not really comfortable with his defenses. I don't really know what he wants to do defensively I don't know what his goal is. Is he a blitzer? Is he screaming at me?  I was it my first or my second rep of passing I get looped I fall asleep and I get sacked so that ends my drive right there so people say why don't you run the ball man because I Tell you guys when you're when you're Able to get a lot of reps passing you learn your opponent's defense You learn your opponent's tendencies in their past coverage and that's what makes it a lot easier to pass later in the game So right there's an example of why I do like to pass But I also like to run because it's easier and it's a lot less stressful so That's the the gift in the curse of running the football and things like of that nature So we stopped a little jet sweep here So like I said, it's gonna be the same combo the whole game Motion out wall or we're gonna get an easy switch right here this time Nitrene doesn't walk with him.  I have that medium knockout on tie law and nitrene So we get to a 39. I mean it listen. I I'm not I Am not going to change anything. I don't think this route combo is crazy I don't think it's nothing there. We go there. We get the motion.  We're shaded up. No big plays here. I Actually realized he's been blocking his tight end So I put that guy over there in a yellow zone right there He gets a huge animation in front of the knockout third down. I mean once again like Nice play, but I'm not gonna switch my defense up for that I just rely on the ability to knock that out when when the time comes So once again, he runs right there gets a good game Then I shift my line stop the run That's what I mean about when it's time to stop the run is we can stop the run But you don't want to weaken your past defense to stop the run We're closing in two-minute warning here That's actually more to go to two-minute warning fast first half fast on two possessors three to three He's flipping around this time. He motions out left. We got the same thing here Good defense and we actually had a cross man right there if you guys see what I did I to see I'd put a cloud flat over here to take away that same corner route He liked throwing cross man at water on this little whip. It's like a backwards whip route It's actually working pretty good and I thought at where we'd be able to guard this on this crazy cross man here But you see he gets kind of whipped and just cross man is not good ever since madden 17 cross man Just I feel like they just run right by him when you do any type of cross man. All right, same thing here third and two I do the same defense cloud on the left to stop that corner route and He goes up top and of course, you know, cuz it's me We just can't get our feet in on this beautiful read by the ops. He just chucks the ball up Looks like Calvin was a touchdown, but he does that click on boom. We can't get our feet down He gets another three points. All right, so we got time here. Let's get something before half We realize he's gonna loop me on the left side here.  So if you guys are struggling with this loop I'll give you a look there. There's what you want to do right there if you're struggling with the loop You want to double team this guy that way both of your linemen will block him and then your running back will pick up The looper or the contain now the running back sucks first it contains so it will sometimes we'll get ran by sometimes I'll suck sometimes it'll be bad, but you won't get instant loops by the dn Now if they double loop you like people have been doing out of 33 God bless your soul I don't know what to do against that all the way But this is what you do against a single loop like this now I know that because I got sacked on third down now. So I know next time to pass I gotta do this. I got a block. Boom. You see it perfectly block We step up a little bit hit another corner out boom So we're closing in on fill all range. We want to get seven here We get the ball a half gonna try to pop a little run ski right here.  We see buyers right there picking up another ten yards. We're 30 seconds, man This is this is working out pretty well We actually got him out of dollar into a little fort or nickel normal or over G Whatever this is so now he's not loop blitzing me now I'm gonna have some time to make some plays in the pocket here Three-man rush just give me some time here boys actually good coverage here. You see what he did here He's been running a lot of cover for but right here He's going to drop a little double Mabel on the right side take away that he lurks the middle Takes away my post route. Maybe I could have do the a high ball outside, but looks pretty covered right there So I'm chilling First down not forcing the ball. I get the ball I have so I'm guaranteed a tie game right here So we're gonna go back with the same type of thing now. I Don't know if you guys notice, but I did change to the deeper corner route So if he puts that that cloud over there I can high ball over his head deeper corner route He sends a lot of pressure right here though. Oh, yep. He didn't even put a cloud there. That's actually just a deep blue That's why we run it off with the streak Send some pressure, but we pick it up nicely Almost got in trouble because those guys bumped into each other now. We're at the four-yard line 23 seconds left. I have one time out so we have some time here We can make some plays we can still run the ball, but we want to save our run for third down This is something as I hit a dot right here, but touchdown nice, but this is something I see so many NFL teams do and you guys should do This is such a real football situation. It really is and For me, this is where like madden players can help real football teams is that okay, I had the ball first in goal Right.  You have to keep that weapon of both running and passing on all three downs, right? You have to keep the defense honest on all three downs. That's why you cannot run until third down Because if because that that way each snap first down second down and third down the defense still has to play Disciplined it and respect the run, but if you don't have a timeout, they don't have to respect the run anymore So that's why when you get in these situations and most players will do this Is that I will pass on first down pass on second down? And then if I'm close enough to where a run is realistic I'll run on third down if I don't get it then I burn my last time out kick my field goal Or I can go for it on fourth down because it's the end to the last play of the other series anyway So timeouts don't matter. So that's why you'll see me always pass on first down these situations We're lucky enough to go with the two slants or two slants to drags and find Mike Williams For the touchdown huge drive look not a lot of time left Great job. We get the ball a half first touchdown in the game. We've both had two drives He's got six I got ten if I get the ball a half will be good guy get a stop here And we can we can get the ball and love 17-6 and I mean I feel great about that Here we go. Once again emotions out again Same thing. It's it's literally it's not anything cute out of him not anything special this time I put a deep blue in the middle as you see this time night train does not travel I must have touched him a little bit moved his player and he doesn't travel But they're being 19 seconds left. He has two timeouts for me I'm oh, I don't think he's gonna snap and throw corn a quick out route is what you could hurt me a streak by the time He throws it and I train will be right next to him So I'm not too worried about him getting out there You saw earlier in the game when the time was not a factor I kind of went out there to cover it to make sure he didn't throw like a quick out route But I'm fine with where he's at right now. I'm fine with it because Like I said, if he wants to do a five-yard out route for five yards right now with 19 seconds God bless. If he does a streak night train will get out there. That's how I feel see route He'll get out there I got a deep blue in the middle just to make sure that Calvin doesn't beat me on an egg or something like that 19 seconds. I'm I feel fine But you know, this is my luck and if you guys saw it we Not only did night train get out to that receiver night train Takes out Dion Sanders watch night train, you know He could have went any angle he could to the outside receiver, but this is the angle he chose watch this Boom and gives up a touchdown I Don't know if my audio is recording from the the game, but you know, I was pissed.  I mean It's one thing about this game that's so inconsistent. It's just the bumping the rubbing that I'm gonna run into your defender I'm gonna run into a zone just Just is disappointing right there.  Just like Like Come on game. Just watch why I'm talking high over the top on the outside Okay One this dude on the left just falls down and then my might these three guys do nothing and Talking right here high ball up near the NFL shield catch touchdown or catch field goal, but We get shetted nothing Go to half we get the ball though, so we give up that touchdown sucks But like I said, we still have the ball. We're able to make some plays.  This is his loop left side. I actually called the wrong play. So I'm struggling I am old So come back with a little insides on what audible back motion the reason I motion this guy now watch this man This if you guys are running tight offset the reason I motion this guy out of the way is because This baseline dollar look when they spread the line this guy gets confused on who's responsible for him, right? Sometimes the the left tackle will leave him alone and let the wide receiver try to block him And that means he's gonna instant shed and stop the run But if I move this guy out of the way then the tackle knows okay, that's my responsibility and the tackle might get instant Shed but not like the wide receiver. That's why I move that guy out of the way And you'll see the tackle pop out and get Lawrence Taylor get a good block on him And we pick up a couple yards We're going back a little play action I've tried to go this is exactly what I wanted to do. I realized this baseline cover for this is exactly what I wanted To do before half I know this play burns baseline cover for up to why high and up about you know Boom Mike Williams get up out of there. Oh gets tackle, but a huge play I'm inside the red zone just like that this time. I'm gonna motion a wall or over Maybe oh one trap here. Maybe something like that a restaurant pastor. I think he audibles the spinner man coverage here Yeah, that's like oh God, this is such a good tidbit now watch him as I motion over you watch his safety drop down That means he's gonna audible to spinner just like that boom. He's in spinner He's in man coverage now now if you see this this route combo right here is for zone See I got I have X on a streak to run off all the deep blues to hit the corner out Once I see him drop into spinner, I don't need this streak anymore. I know it's man coverage Right, so what I do is I take X and I put him on a flat route Why just to get him out of the way take your guy which is right here take him out of the way What I want to do now I'm isolating Mike Williams to short an elite on this corner route boom right there I have moss coming back side on corner Maybe wall if I need it, but I know he audible to spinner I know that we're gonna be able to pop this if I get some time we do boom corner route Mike Williams Touchdown easy drive Easy another I mean if you look at my drives right now, we're playing great football and offense We're making the right calls. We're kind of in his own Just gotta play some defense here boys little run with waller once again He's back to this motion out thing going with that that cloud flat over there on the right He goes for that we get a big pick by night train lane We're gonna take this as far as we can juke by him juke by the eye got me. All right, so now we need to touch down We need to touch down here boys once again, it's cover four. He's not pressed anymore So we're not gonna be able to do that deep bomb anymore, but we're gonna try to and now we go with his own beater Double team left. We're picking up the loop. We're looking good. He actually double Mables He gets out of that cover four and he goes with a double Mabel over here on the left So he takes away that corner out. We get sacked But the thing about stepping up in a pocket boys and this is I tell people all the time The thing about stepping up in a pocket is look You we got sacked as players. We watch it again. We get a double Mabel on the left good I mean, maybe in a perfect world. I could have high balled the y And I could have hit x but I was just staring down y thinking it was a deep blue. So that's what people x is open I know but I was staring down y. I'm sorry. I think I think it's going to be covered for I think I'm going to get a big corner out and the thing about throwing in the middle of the field is I have to just wait to see who he chooses the guard So I don't really even want to play that game So I don't really even want to play that game. I want to throw where the computer players are. So that's why You know It's you know, that's why we take a sack there, but we only took a one yard sack So it's not like we lost eight yards. We didn't lose 10 yards or anything like that here I don't know what we're calling right here Honestly, not one of the worst plays I've called. I don't know what I was looking for. I know what I was looking for So he double Mables So now I'm looking for wheel rock over top of the cover two on the left side This time he doesn't double Mable just runs cover four good defense Now we get a third and nine So honestly, he called the right defense for the right plays that I ran both times in a row uh, you know Tough this is where I wish I didn't stream or had the 10 minute delay or something like that So they couldn't see what plays I had on the field, but you know Here we go we're going Same thing corner out left. He has the double Mable We get shetted and boom. We have both people. We have everybody open We're not even shetted here. We just have to step up so obnoxiously because i'm getting glitched I mean nothing I I should just stand there, but it's like I got to get away from these guys on the right on the left and this guy spins around in a contain When I had literally everything touchdown curl route a route everything and I step into a contain and he sheds me I I'll tell you man. I contains for me for the life of me are the worst thing I'm at and they really are They're just so broken. They're so terrible. They should stop trying to make contains all they do is glitch the game All they do is confuse the old line.  They should stop trying to make them So we only settle for a field over there Big deal, man. We got two field goals here in this game That's I mean both times we get sacked on third downs And so that's keeping this game close for the most part and that touchdown before half is keeping the game close Motion out again the same route combo. I love my defense for it Cloud on the left side. We got cross man here We just got to make sure to see route doesn't get over the top and it Does and somehow he catches that on the universal coverage Love to see that and that's what you love to see man. Good throw good read Nice same thing. He's gonna motion out once again. This time I've had enough. I think I'm gonna send this extra guy And of course one time he sees that nobody's on this guy that's been guarding them all game But this is the play that he decides to put him on a streak Nice job, buddy. That's just brilliant. But we catch him Here we go. We're gonna play coverage here Inside the 10 yard line or inside the 15.  Nope Unlucky again, could have easily been a fumble and steady picked the five yards on that Tough scene really Second and five again, we're gonna play coverage high ball Keith Byers beats Dion on just like an in route One thing about this is I don't have anybody on a running back. I also have a hook curl right there You know, I mean just night train, dude Night train might have had a bad game this game boys. If you're looking at home, this might the night train have a bad game So he ties the game up, uh, you know tough drive defensively there Up and we kind of I want to almost say we have a little money drive here I don't know if we can milk the whole clock, but we pop a run get it to the fourth quarter Pop another little run ski get three yards We got him pinching his line This is my goal in dollar when I played baseline dollar I want you if you pinch your line these corners aren't going to scream as fast if you blitz So I always like when people pinch your line, uh, that's why the run is good. It makes people do that and relax So same thing here. We're going to run off deep blues on the left little blitz We step up in the pocket beautifully high ball over the middle. That's what I mean if they pinch the line I want to pass most of the time It weakens their past defense and that's why I have an o1 trap in the inside zone is great All right, here we go. Let's milk a little take a little time off the clock. I don't think we can take the whole game, but We can definitely get close to a two-minute warning here uh Nice run here. I mean I look at the safety and like can we block the safety in the corner? Right? That's what I look at Right right here. Boom I see look See now obviously we just run right up here But I see this guy and this guy but over here I see this guy sealing I see this guy right here about to take out this guy and moss could get this guy So I think if I can get Instead of taking on this guy if I can get through this gap right here Baja now Maybe this is why I suck at running because I overthink it just run to this giant hole and then maybe truck this guy or Juke them. I might honestly be on conservative at this point. I don't remember So I don't know trucking and jukeing as an option, but that was my idea and 73 just got shredded You know Probably could have worked, but we get six yards. Nonetheless Clock is running here. I mean, I would probably run again here. We're gonna go I think we're probably gonna go base here. I have puller elite on fanica on the left the left guard here Let's see what he does. Boom big block by fanica That's tough because Damn we get a third in one I'm not a guy that's ever going to really run for third and short, which is kind of dumb at the running all that far down four-man rush here Beautiful pass underneath calvin nice job nice And now here we're going to be able to get to the two minute warning here We're going to go back to this base. I liked how it looked the last play against the same look Let's see if we can get a nice little chunk again Um this time the same exact look. This is why I hate running if not doing it a lot Same look, but somehow joe thomas doesn't block laurence taylor Where does he go here like and we lose four yards? That's such a tough loss and he caused time out there So that kind of forces my hand. Do I want to run the ball again here? Take it to its women and warn her get one of his timeouts This is a lot of thought here, but you know, I'm gonna pass because I can get a touchdown here. I feel it I want the corner out over here to darren waller. I really do That's what we're staring down for the most part here And he does a good job and we throw the ball away. Once again, he goes with that double mable Deep cloud on the right side, maybe a 30 yard cloud I really didn't have much I really didn't have much could I hide ball over his head and not worth it When I have the lead in my possession could have hit y late, but he covered it long enough to where Uh, it would run into this flat zone over here Maybe that's seen down the middle, but you got to realize that Or b is never really an option for me. He just running off the blue zones And then he gets pushed so look how far b got pushed into the middle of the field So he's not even supposed to be there But that was good defense and we throw the ball away. So we save him a timeout third and 14 here Tough now, this is what I do here. This is what I try here because he had that deep clouds on the other play, right? Instead of running a corner out into the back of the end zone of that cloud and cover Let's try to run that cloud down the field and though this in route smart routed right in front of his face That's what I'm thinking on this play if I get this first down the games over I have a hitch the reason I have a flat is any purple zones or flat zones This flat will take them all the way to the left and leave me a void right here to hit this curl But I I think he's going to stay in the middle with his user I want to hit wall or I do because I think this guy's on the 30 yard cloud So he's going to go all the way to the goal line and in front of him I could throw in front of him with the with the deep out route. That's what I think That's why I call this play And I mean I didn't like it I didn't think it was worth it. What do you guys think in the comments? Like I said, I didn't want to throw this guy because I knew his user was right here I knew he'd be here Now b that's an impossible throw. Let's be honest here rb I'm staring down waller and maybe I'm pussy I wish he would have cut it off at the goal line or at the smart routed line I mean, he's like five yards past that so he gives me like He gives me no window to really throw if he would have cut it off right at the smart routed line We would have been money. It's a great idea. I think he's too far down the field Um, maybe I'm maybe I was scared. Maybe I would played safe. Maybe I did not go and get after it Maybe I could have do the y the whole time, but I like I said, I'm scaring I'm staring down a I didn't like it I let the play develop He didn't rush anybody Now I'm just going to dump the ball off to Marcus Allen here because I feel like I can just keep the clock running I can maybe get it first down. It's Marcus Allen, right? I want to dump it off to him and look where he'd do the ball Look where he throws the ball here Oh man, looking back at a I should have just trusted my gut and went and got it But he almost threw me a pick but I take I take the lead We lose four yards on first down nothing on second down and then that play We could have let the clock run a little bit more, but We have ourselves a nice little game or we have ourselves a nice job nice chance to get off the field He has a streak for a touchdown and that one drive would have like I'm not worried about it. I can make play. I can make plays. I'm cool I drop a guy out in the coverage here for that corner route He's got nothing big sack right there pat p coming up huge with a sack two minute warning Second in 19. We're feeling great We're feeling good Once again deep blue in the middle. I don't want to get agged by Calvin The deep blue will help with the ag go come over and you know knock it out if he has a chance Right there boom deep blue exactly and then we get the exactly how I drew it up Exactly why I put that deep blue there. I see his eggs are in the middle We cover the corner route over here to the left user it this guy does a great job on a sea route Look at that. That's just picture perfect high balls The guy I put now if I don't have this deep blue He glitches out deon it might be a touchdown, but shawn teller comes out cuts his legs out boom ball pops up Everybody on my team has pick artists Just for that now we get the ball. This is where You have to make a decision as a madden player Do I want to get a first down or do I want to just run the clock and hope to get a first down kick a field? Me I will always try to get this first down And you know, that's just how how my mindset works now first down. We're always going to run here I wish we would have got some better blocks right there nothing doing now He's going to let the clock run. He chooses not to use the time out So if someone does this so you have to make sure you take it all the way to one second You know, but for me this comes to a decision for me is like, okay If you're going to pass for this first down at some point You should do it on second down because it's a lot easier to pass on a run situation Then it is on third down if it gets the third and 10 passing is damn there impossible So for me, I'm going to go ahead and try to pass here on second down Just to get some yards and it's the easier passing situation snap flat route knocked out now This is where the high ball kills me because I swear this is open And I'm not talking open for 10 yards open for anything. I'm open open for a completion open for the clock running boom You know But I high ball I'm so used to high balling these to get the reason why you high ball these Same animation consistent over the shoulder. You'll keep your momentum good rack catching But here if I just dump this in right here, we're going to get a completion if nothing But we high ball it and we get incomplete so the clock stops now Boom Now we kind of got a pass. We went for it all. So this is the play-out draw up here He's just running zone, right? It's just it's just zone, right? So this corner route you got to put clouds over here to stop this because it will run off a cover forward Deep blue. It's the short side of the field. I know that Uh, then I just have I got to play with his user. He's been user. He's been double mabling me Guarding the whole middle of his field. So I'm going to make him look at the angle route or the pulse route to waller Who has shortened which should beat any type of coverage? Here the play breaks down And we're going to have that option. He's on the running back. I see waller light up against this guy Money, I just I feel like this is money what I got to do and this is where I I love to play call I just got to execute better step up I take a step backwards this dude sheds because of it I'm under pressure I think this guy is open if he doesn't have a medium knockout or something like that is a catch But I'm under pressure and I throw the ball and boom Tough tough I said, I love to play. I love the route combo Step up like a man. This is an easy easy game over Step up like a man. This is game over. Just not comfortable not executing Right in that hole that he left pause From his user step up into that you step right here. This guy gets pancaked. This guy is getting double teamed You almost could even run for a first down well way because his user's going here. This guy's going there. Look how it opens up Just bad pocket bad throw I mean low key lucky. It didn't go right to this guy for a pick six So I love my play calls. We just got to execute them better I will always pass in that situation Now, let me know if you guys would run the clock out and just kick a field goal Take his two timeouts if I take his two timeouts, we're probably sitting around the same time But he just won't have timeouts, you know, which for me I want to when you go for it you give your chance yourself two chances to win the game you can win the game from Getting that first down and even say I didn't I didn't get the first down. I didn't execute I didn't get it done. Now. I still have a chance on defense, which I've been playing good defense I'm not mad. I know every route combo he wants to do Is he going to catch a ag? Is he going to moss me? Is this c-route going to win? It's just that's what it comes down to We're going to run the same defense this he's going to do the same thing Here we go. I'm going to do the same thing. I'm going to guard I'm going to guard the corner out for the most part and you know, let the right side do his thing I got I got a universal coverage on Calvin feeling good This timing goes little baby out route. Okay, that's a nice little mix up He's realized that I I'm not manning that guy up I put a deep blue the guy that's supposed to be on him is in a deep blue to help with the ags I don't want to get agged. I can't lose in this tournament because ags I know they're a big part of the game gotta make sure they double team them Gotta make sure we tackle them gotta make sure I run my user down the field to make sure I'm I got a double team on them guys here.  I just want it. I'm going to run to the left.  Don't get agged. I can't get agged I can't get agged good little out route right here Pick up a couple yards. I get that knee in bounds, but he gets out of bounds here third and 12 Third and 12 here. Um, he's going to all the ball to the spread once again. I'm worried about eggs I'm shading up. I'm shading up. I'm shading up. He goes to the ag over here. We knock it out Dion fourth and 12 for the game 20 seconds left in the game and 20 seconds left. Don't get agged. Shaded up. Everybody has knocked out I'm ready to swat ready to run to my user the ball even if we get agged. We have to make the tackle Fourth and 12 We're not in ag for the game yet. I feel like when you try to do a deeper egg It's tougher to catch now. Here we go. He audibles the spread. I think ag all the way Drop back. We're getting some pressure. He goes corner out and tie law. Oh my gosh, tie law If you touch him, he drops the ball.  You play to tie law. You got to do a little bit better But at the end of the day we're guarding eggs right now. So that corner out is kind of open So now Now we are at get teabagged for the game territory. We are absolutely at get teabagged for the game I am petrified of getting teabagged for the game But we're going to run spinner again solo coverage. You see I start putting some deep blues. He audibles to This looks like It's going to be just an egg so our audible to man under get double coverage on everybody We are not going out getting agged. I'll tell you that once again streaks everybody high balls up in the air Pick our pick our pick up We could have ended the game right there. He just chucks into double coverage Every single person right here has pick artists. There are four eagles Somebody put their hands on the football in complete pass nine seconds left I'm so afraid to get teabagged right here. I'm wanting to call two man under instead of spinner Two men under here And what happens is that when he motions out nobody goes with this guy now Now we've been playing this game for how many snaps now and I've been having no problem with this motion out But now on two man under nobody goes with him. So I'm kind of panicking call my time out This is about your comfort.  Why do you run?  You know how they're going to adjust emotions how they're going to adjust the route swaps How they're going to adjust the different adjustments that you make you know, what's going to happen So now I'm going to run two men under a defense. I'm really not comfortable with or I don't run Now you guys think it's simple two men under. Yeah, I'm going to run it again This time I'm not going to click on a guy try to set up the blitz Boom, I got the blitz set up. I'm going to get on I move nitrene lane out there move him out to the right Got this guy here I'm going to use her to detackle here just because I got everybody manned up Everybody's manned up and I got a glitch blitz over here I can use her to detail get out here get getting here. Where about this egg this egg everything And we give up a streak right down the middle Deon Sanders gets ran right by whoop now There's a lot of things I did wrong one should have never went to two men under I should have stayed in spinner and said go ahead put a bunch of deep blues out there Two two men under is a very good defense, right? But it has it has a built-in shade down So your man coverage is going to play a lot more aggressively and you notice I haven't been pressing at all this game and I don't press this play I let Deon play five eight yards off right So he's shaded down. So he's going to run down there aggressively To guard and then whoop get ran right by but I know that in two men under instead of setting up the blitz like this Instead of moving night train out, which he could have helped me if I left him where he was I move him out five yards Instead of setting up a blitz Moving out night train and then having to move at water out to guard waller If I were to just shade it up first and not Not left at stock Then deon would have played calvin a lot better Or I could have just pressed and at least got a little press animation on deon But instead we get ran right by for the game tough tough tough That's tough Now we got five seconds And a dream here two man rush. We're gonna have some time. Just gotta step up I don't really have too much.  So the line is definitely at the 25 yard line.  I would say I'm not getting much out of this Maybe who knows I catch it and run who knows but And the clock ran out anyway, but just disappointing Just didn't execute all my calls were fine. I'm not mad at any of them. Just got to execute them better, man Just got to execute those calls better Um two men under got a shade up right away The pass plays that I called just got I put the right plays out there Just got to make better throws better timing better pocket. Just bad Bad execution. I could have caught a pick. He could have fumbled with the quarterback I couldn't have gave up that touchdown before the half where my dudes bumped into each other Just a disappointing game. Um, I don't think I got cheated You know, I could things could have went better my way But I could have played a lot better got some things done not mad at any of my calls Aging is a part of this game.  It's so tough to play Especially when you get to that 25 30 yard line where you could lose off one egg I was so afraid of that that it made me switch up my defense But it's you should be afraid of it. It's that tough But it is a double elimination tournament. We lost the first game So now we go down into the dungeon that is the loser's bracket where you got to win a million games to get out We're gonna start that journey man. Thank you guys. So if you guys like these videos, please let me know I'm trying to drop a little bit of knowledge a little bit of tidbits that go through my mind during the game And it relates to football so much these different situations we're put into So if you guys are liking these, please let me know in the comments closing on 40k subscribers Let's get this video to a thousand likes.  I hope you guys liked it, man


What is water? You know we have been talking about water. When you think about water, what comes in your head? Something like this, you know, something that is just made through earth, isn't it? And that flows in the rivers, through the rivers. But if you think about tropical rivers, it's not just water that flows through those rivers. It's also a silt. Sometimes up to 30% of what goes on through the rivers is actually silt. And that is the silt that goes into building the deltas. So if you think of deltas, large deltas in the tropical areas, the leading experts, you have to think of the leading expert who is the top leading expert in the world about deltas. And here is Rohan Vizuza, who is going to talk about water insecurity today, but he is the leading expert in the world about deltas. He has written the history of deltas in eastern India from 1750 to 1950. So here is Rohan. All right. I must say I have to start with a correction, Kuntala, despite the generous praise. The title of my dissertation, PhD submitted in 1998, was Floods in Eastern India, 1750 to 1950, yes. Which is why I always introduce myself as the world's leading expert on floods in eastern India from 1750 to 1950. So I think I should have a mild corrective there. And not a day beyond 1750. All right. I know you've had a hard day and I'm going to repeat what Kuntala said. And sometimes, you know, the presentations have been incredibly exciting. And I say this not because I'm being patronizing, but I truly enjoyed all the presentations I attended. And I truly learned a lot. And I know that adding one more drop is going to now be an overflow. So the strategy, because I'm between a hard rock and another hard rock because after this is drinks, right? Okay, right. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going to adopt what is called the cold bath approach. That is, by the time you're in it, you're already thinking of how to leave. Yeah. All right. So this is on water insecurity and security in South Asia. And really, this topic came to me because of a very strange set of conversations that I was having with this friend of mine who's a Zen Buddhist. And he once told me, he said, okay, you want to work on water. Let me give you a Zen Kwan. The Zen Kwan would be something like this. How do you see like a bird and think like a fish, right? So that's the, and there's, of course, much with Zen Kwan's, there's no explanation beyond that. But seeing like a bird is, of course, about patterns from the sky, large ways of looking at geographical patterns. And seeing like a fish is, of course, being sensitive to really the micro level at which the fish has to operate. So if you can put them together, it's quite possible that you could write a paper on security. And I'm trying to see that if that's possible today. All right. Let me, oh, do I, okay. The big deep water dilemmas. And this is something I'm just rehearsing in its most elemental and primitive quote unquote forms. What are we really thinking about and writing against? And what do we seem to be doing? One is there's an entire traditional scholarship that we are challenging. And it's about 150 years old. And it's got five points that I think helps you summarize the whole thing. Very Zen like, sorry for that. One is the belief that water has no history. It's an inert substance. It's life giving, but no life of its own. And lastly, technologies for manipulating water are apolitical and neutral. This is really the 19th century, 20th century way in which if you were the engineering vision of how water should be reflected on as dead inert and something that you deal with apolitically and historically neutral. Right. Now this is what is really the art of what is being challenged in many of the proceedings and many of the submissions, including today. And most of it is done by the hydraulic turn, so to speak. We're talking about, I think, perhaps the late 70s and early 80s where you take water and you begin to put it in context of meanings, values and potentials that are socially conferred. Again, I make no claim to being original about this. What I'm trying to basically put together is a large body of writing and thinking on the subject. And if you were to break that down, what you're seeing people doing is they would take the notion of water as lacking history or water being inert and put that into a context of meaning. And then you get something completely different, which is finally you begin to see the elephant in the pool. Right. So much of that turning about meanings and values brings us to asking this question in a in a fundamental. It's not the only question, but I would say one of the most great in questions that can be presented is in the form of what is called the social hydro political dialectic. That is, the more we talk about water, the more we tend to talk about ourselves. It's like water almost becomes a mirror into our into the way we we look pleasant, unpleasant, whatever the question may be. I use the word hydraulic paradigm, but I think after today's presentations, I've gone a little bit soft in it. I think maybe I should just abandon it and basically argue that if we are to understand how water is manipulated, can we in some ways then begin to characterize the way we are? Can we find a pattern? That is, if we talk, we put it this way, there was a lovely presentation today about the flush toilet. Yeah, if we talk about a society committed to flush toilet, does that society then become something open to a description in a unique and distinct way? Is it possible to argue that a flush toilet is possible in an urban regime with a strong sense of individual individualizing power? Yeah, right, that it is a flush toilet is very connected to constructing us as individuals rather than as people of community and a solidarity that is about I must recollect Professor Isha Shah from Berkeley who when she had to do fieldwork on irrigation. She found that one of the things she had to do was to communally share, how does one put it without sounding difficult?  And so she had to sit with them and they would exchange stories and discuss and talk, right? So obviously a flush toilet in that context would involve a dramatic alteration of personality type in order to be applicable to put it mildly. So what I'm arguing here is that when we talk about water insecurity or security, are we talking about a new moment of politics and the societies that we try to characterize? Which is what I'm trying to do. Okay, a detour. This is of course what South Asia looks like with strangely enough only India looking like it's South Asia, but I should have got another map. But what I'm trying to argue here or show visually is that part of the template of insecurity and security is today being driven by what is understood to be a problem or a complication that of trans boundary river systems. Yeah, so it would be something like you could see from the north, India shares boundaries, rivers with Pakistan, Pakistan of course shares rivers with India and Bangladesh and so on and so forth. What increasingly is becoming the case is that they're finding that land and property fits neatly into political territory and political boundaries. But rivers tend to be promiscuous. There is absolutely no loyalty. They flow across political boundaries and they somehow unsettle the stability of land, which is a problem. They don't appreciate hard fought one notions of sovereignty. Right. So what do you do for these kinds of digressions? You frame them now as problems of security. And I'll come back to that later. But before I do that, let me rehearse very quickly certain templates by which water manipulation is characterized as a social sense. What I what I'm trying to explain by that is that they have been writings in the recent past where they're trying to understand. How do you characterize the way water is manipulated and used in say the modern moment in Asia? All right. And one of the first notions that we have that tries to stabilize it as a concept is called the hydraulic mission. So if you want to look at the modern moment to explain the way water is manipulated, harnessed, used, abused and so on and so forth. The term is the hydraulic mission and its characteristics are the following. Number one, it believes in giant hydraulic infrastructure, large dams, wires, diversion structures and so on and so forth. So there's an emphasis on giant, giantness and bigness and centralized states. The second point that they want to use to characterize it, and this is Peter Mullinger and Francois Moll, they use it. It's called the iron triangle syndrome as well. They want to say that bureaucrats, politicians and contractors have all come together to control, formulate and define the hydraulic mission. So if you really want to understand contemporary manipulative, contemporary practices for manipulating and controlling water, you must need to understand the iron triangle, right? And the iron triangle then opens up a mirror onto itself when it looks at water. And so they make this correlation between water technologies, political imperatives and profits. So this is the way the hydraulic mission is framed. However, there are differences and there's someone called Jay Allen who writes that actually that's too simple. There's much more complexity within the hydraulic mission. And so he says we have to put it in five stages. Stage one, we have to understand the pre-modern community which is low primitive technology and simple community organization, right? So you don't get really the bigness of technology for water manipulation. And then you get the industrial revolution that then breeds this whole set of possibilities that never existed before. And this continues according to Jay Allen sometime till the 1970s when there is a reflection on what he calls environmental flows. He says the hydraulic mission now begins to consider or insert the idea of the environmental flow and therefore it looks different. By the 1990s, he's talking about water as economic value, right? That is, there's a transition to understanding water as an economic good. And so you get environmental flows, economic good, you get industrial revolution and pre-modern community. And they're all adding up by 2000 to the idea of integrated water resource management, which I'm sure everyone has heard. But for Allen, what it means is the finally the recognition of politics as a crucial way of understanding water. So in his opinion, the hydraulic mission evolves in a linear fashion and arrives finally at the P word politics. So if you want to understand water management today, you need an engagement with politics. Now there are some who argue that this is not enough, that this is really shades that basically explain the same thing. And politics undoubtedly is about inclusion and exclusion. But if we were to talk about inclusion without questioning the fundamental say of large dams or of big technologies, would that be all right? One of the things about IWRM is the belief that we're not fundamentally against large dams, we just want good dams. And there's a basis for making that claim. So there is another argument, some of which of course I'm also keen to advocate. The belief that actually the modern moment is really about a new philosophical disposition towards the way we handle water. And that philosophical disposition has this very simple but profound belief that water can simply be physically transferred to constituencies that need it. What that roughly means is that water has no ecology or history or place. It can be moved around and shuffled around. So whether it's large dams, whether it's diversions, whether it's wise, the belief is that you can make water go to wherever you want it to go. And the supply side hydrology assemblage has been painfully somewhat in twists and turns being constructed over 150 years. And the four elements that are crucial to it, that in fact define and colour the way we tend to respond to the challenge of water, is the civil engineering vision, which of course Margaret has so beautifully and wonderfully got across today. Quantitative hydrology, that is, water can actually be broken down into numbers and be understood as volumes, right? High modernist social planning, the TVA, many of the projects of the 1930s and onwards. And I'm thinking of Richard White's organic machine, that great book that says, and tells us how the Columbia project comes up as a way of formulating a new vision of society itself. For someone, for something that Gathri, what Peter Gathri is it? What is it? A musician? Woody Gathri, sorry. Woody Gathri, who sings about, you know, as a way of socialism, right? And lastly, of course, it breeds the giant centralized national water bureaucracy. Now all these elements, not only interlock but share the philosophical premise that water has no ecology or place or history, yeah? So whenever you get attempts to put this back in, you actually get and generate a kind of politics. That is my claim. And that politics does happen. I mean, if you could open up a lot of the politics around water management or for that matter, non-management in South Asia today, what you're seeing is claims for place, claims for ecology and kind of a context for arguing that water has a history, right? So I'm trying to rehearse three moods, which I think summarize much of the literature that's really post 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. There's a lot of it and I won't individually flag all these authors because, you know, drinks are waiting at the end. All right. Okay. The first, the first mood I refer to as the reflexive challenge. This is the belief that there's a managerial and technical interventions that actually need to be fleshed out. That is, you need to really empower certain institutional mechanisms like water tribunals, independent commissions and river basin authorities. The belief in the rule of the expert really. So what they would argue is that science must humiliate politics and that politics basically must be kept out of good science because politics is always trying to use good science. So the managers, the technocrats come in and say, okay, this is how we think it should be done. And if you listen to us, things will be better. And they believe in rationally bargaining and efficiency sharing frameworks. So this is the real mood about the solution to many of the problems as they see it. But I must also admit that a lot of this literature should be faulted for the one unforgivable act. Terribly boring. Yeah. Okay. So then there is the second mood, which I refer to as resistance modes with Zoe corrected as resistant mode, but I'm going to hold on to it for the time being. Much of this literature starts off by saying, okay, there's a gap between claims and actual results on the ground. So the whole idea is to really write and challenge and to question projects by saying, this is what you're saying. This is what is actually going to happen. So close the gap. And this kind of literature then argues for environmental, technical and social qualifications. So they would argue that we need a more adept EIA. We need a more greater sensitivity to actual local participation in making these decisions, et cetera, et cetera. So the whole idea is to basically argue that benign outcomes are possible with the given technologies provided you listen to people. And of course, part of this narrative falls what they refer to as the contractor politician bureaucratic nexus or something like the iron triangle, right? So the narrative, if one was to write it as a movie, would be the bad guys, contractors, politicians, bureaucratic nexus, the good guys, maybe community participants and so on and so forth. And while in Bollywood films there's a dance in the middle that is the EIA and other technical qualifications that come in, right? Now, the third mood, which I'm far more sort of supportive of is literature and writings that go beyond discussing unfulfilled promises. That really large dams and good dams is really not about an unfulfilled promise. That we have to understand this water manipulation strategy as really fundamentally being about the way power is constructed in society. There are certain choices, certain ways in which water is harnessed tells us a lot about how dominant structures within that society want to basically remain at the top. So for those who critique as radical critiques, every project is about how a certain arrangement of power tries to stabilize itself. And one has to understand that because you want a different political imagination, a different possibility, right? Not necessarily an adjustment or compromise. An adjustment and compromise is part of perhaps a larger different political imagination. So it opens the window into really putting forward the belief that alternative different imaginations must be presented in order to rethink the water question, yeah? And so, for example, on the question of large dams, it's not about unfulfilled promises, but as Arundhati Roy very beautifully and aptly sort of sums it up, that it's really about the transfer of resources. How much can you really qualify environmentally and technically given that intended outcome, right? So this is the kind of literatures that one can review that has been written in South Asia. But none of this actually touches on what I argue is the new term towards securitization. And a brief note on that before I go to the next slide. Securitization discourse is something that comes up in the 1990s. It's called the Copenhagen School, Barry Duzan, Oli Weaver, and Japty Wilde. I don't know if that's the correct pronunciation of the last name, where they argue that actually security is not an objective condition. It can be talked up through speech acts and securitization discourse really argues that they say it's non-traditional forms of discourse, security discourse can be created by the way people actually talk up anything, right? So food security, agriculture security or river or water security for that matter. It has to be talked up in such a powerful fashion that there's a consensus that then can be emerged or stabilized, right? Through what they call security moves. I won't get into that too much. But I would argue today that in South Asia two particular recent publications are indicative of that trend. The first in India by an organization called the Indian Institute of Defence Study and Analysis. It's a government security think tank. And the IDSA brought out a report in 2010, which was titled the relevance of water in the larger national security context. 2010, very simple, straightforward. And what they argue in that is that hydro diplomacy now is going to be crucial to the way that India has to relate to its river systems, particularly keeping in mind the fact that China could be damning the Bramputra and various other scenarios are worked out. It's quite alarmist, but it's also very measured. And what they argue at one fundamental level is that what we have to think about is data and how it's secured. And if at all people are going to construct stuff so they're not fundamentally against big centralized technology being constructed, then we'll talk about sharing, river sharing, all right? So this is the kind of strategies that they want to adopt. In 2011, the Committee of Foreign Relations from the US brought out another report called avoiding water wars. It's not like water wars are not happening, avoiding water wars. So there's a clear sense of creating and sustaining what the Copenhagen School would say, speech acts to talk up the idea of security, right? And these are the characteristics of most of what they argue and I mean it's very much visible in the documents. One is the objective notions of scarcity, demography and geopolitics, okay? These are presented as givens. These are not constructed. So demography is this is India's numbers. This is Pakistan's numbers and so on and so forth.  So that's one way in which it's dreamed out. Secondly, there's an emphasis or call for increased centralization, enforced secrecy, selective data and statistics, which then are defined as national interests and this is anecdotal, but many of my friends who always try to get data on rivers, volumetric data so to speak, so obviously I mean it's always very, very difficult. You're not completely convinced that it's correct data or for that matter some of it is just say national security interests so you don't have access to it. So therefore the third aspect of the securitization move is limiting public access, access while empowering narrow bands of experts and institutions. What you're getting now is a reversal of all the gains earlier so-called made through meanings and values that we've all so carefully crafted as a way of talking about water. Increasingly what the securitization discourse wants to do is to argue that what Agamben would put, that state of exception, that emergency prevents us from giving you access to river data or for that matter if you're going to construct something under national interest then it does not have to respond to the protocols of democracy. So what I see is even though the three moods that I pointed out earlier, reflexive, resistance and radical in a strange way whether it's market or states they had some premises that one could say was about challenging centralized water management. They spoke for public access to information. They wanted transparency. They made claims about water as being something fundamental to a democratic imagination. But here you get a complete reversal in the way that this securitization discourse is being assembled. Now, this is the last slide. I could not think of a better way of summarizing the dilemma. I'm sure you're familiar with Edward Monk's very iconic portraits, the screen. And I was reading a bit on this and it's very striking. This is 1893 and Monk is taking a walk and then he was overwhelmed and in his words by a night sky or late evening sky in which the sky was blood red with tons of fire and then he felt this painful scream coming out of nature itself. What is striking about the picture is that the figure actually doesn't scream. It's nature itself that screams. The figure is actually choked by a scream of dream time. It's one of those where you're on dream time and you lose the ability to scream. So in a certain sense, if you look at the securitization discourse, the scream comes from nature. And you are denied that voice to scream. That's the way it is operationalized. In a certain sense, desecuritizing is putting the scream back into the figure, the way I see it. And that means, of course, many more micro narratives and many more ways in which you put in history, ecology and context into the way we discuss water, right? Because I think the objective of security studies today is to create a fluvial anxiety with Kierkegaard often says anxiety is basically unfocused fear. So to bring that sensibility into the way we talk about water is what security discourse tries to do. And I would urge you to consider that today the triumph of security discourse is to become very elemental. It's not at the rational sphere. It's not even at the cultural sphere. It's really at that elemental fear of anxiety, fear, distress, and of course the scream, right? So I should end on that. I know you'd be screaming to leave the room and get to the drinks. So I thought maybe this would be the most appropriate way. Thank you so much for your patience. Yes, I really appreciated your particular, your last slide and reminded me of a meeting on, I was sitting here in A&E with some senior professors talking about water. And there was one expert and thankfully he has left A&E now. But he was talking about, well, you know what we need to do is press the security button. And I was, oh my God, how much more I have to tolerate. And people keep doing that.  And one of the reasons why South Asia is full of countries who can't tolerate each other. And this whole idea of security. Yeah, thank you for that. I'll open the, now that I have set my keys, I want to open the floor for questions. Yes, Louis? It's just a little question just about the last piece of your paper there. Right. Right, are you saying that we should actually be cultivating a more focused fear? In terms of when you're saying to bring back the things that have been absent, like the ecology of Australia. Right, right. Well, I'd say that, well, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm just personally reading Kierkegaard a few months ago and I was struck by how he discusses the notion of anxiety. You know, it doesn't necessarily come from anywhere in particular. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, the angst. Yeah, yeah. And much of the security discourse, actually when they unfocus that fear, it paralyzes your capacity to analyze and to understand exactly what is the basis of their anxiety. Right. So to, in a strange way, if one was to acquire a sense of focus, then one opens up the basis for an analysis. Yeah. Which is not to say that because you know what the problem is, it goes away. Which is to say that your reactions might be more based on better judgment. Yeah. But I say this also because, you know, there's now enough security literature that's coming out in Brahmachalini's book, which of course is just, I mean, there are parts of it which I don't know how exactly to, I mean, it should have this on the cover, actually, with Brahmachalini's name written just below that. But he writes, for example, oh, Pakistan is all jihadist and it's got a huge population problem and India should really, I mean, this is about 1.2 billion worrying about another million here on the other side. Yeah. So not to show off necessarily, but yeah. So but I'm just saying how this is all done to, it's a psychological warfare which breeds anxiety. Right. And so I'm wondering that much as the turn towards meaning and values and context has been really helpful in unsettling the civil engineering view of water. The security discourse will open up a very different realm of challenges. And partly, you know, if you look at some of the ways climate change is framed, the unknown. So we all should worry. Yeah. I think that will require us to embrace a very different sense of analysis and a sensibility about politics as well. Yeah. So this is like, you know, this is the belief that this template is being assembled. It's not yet something that's walking. Right. But you can already smell it in the air, so to speak. Yeah. We were sort of identifying different ages of the water, hydrologics kind of thing. And we got to, you know, the future of a sort of happy hippie co-management sort of, you know, being involved in the time. But the latest version of this model that they've come up with, and this phase is running synchronously. Right. So we, with the security discourse, and they're talking in the Australian context as well. So we've got a double vision now. We've got this sort of trend, like we thought we were getting away from big water and models of co-managements coming up, you know, which is the theme of this conference. But, you know, on top of that or alongside it, we're getting this securitisation discourse, which is really going back to a big water kind of thing. Right. Right. Yeah. And I mean, one should really worry. The last James Bond film, not Skywalk, but the one before that, I think Daniel Craig's first film, was about water. What was it? The Solace. Yeah, Solace, yeah. So this guy who buys up all this land in Bolivia, that on the surface looks like completely relevant stuff. I mean, can't grow anything, but there's water underneath, right? And of course, Bond saves the world and so on and so forth. That's a different story. What I'm saying is, there's already a sense of turning water into a source of anxiety and unfocused fear. We're ready to continue. In Mercher's painting, doesn't he maintain a dualism between humans and nature? And isn't that part of the problem, too? If you were to frame it as we are unfocused in our fear in nature, or our relational dynamics with nature, then I can begin to appreciate the argument. But what's happened with the IPCC, for example, is that they have unwittingly cultivated a global emotion of fear. Right. Well, I hate all repertoire globally has gone down in the last couple of years rather than going up. Yeah. So we need to transfer, if we have to change in any way that could be seen as transformative or positive, then we need to generate an emotion of hope. Yeah, right. Well, you know, Arjun Apadurai has another phrase which I kind of liked. It's there in the paper. I completely forgot to get it across here.  And the politics of patience is about deepening democracy through dialogue, negotiations, adjustments, compromises, ideas that go back and forth. And you have to cultivate that, yeah, in order to prevent this, the politics of emergency, which is what security studies tries to do. Is that the fusing of the market value and of democracy is a particular approach to work management. But if you look at the terror campaigns, particularly with the notion of the state of perception, that the vote suspends more and more processes, how then would you see the market dynamic playing out because it's strongly aligned to the democratic ideal in the order space. So does that mean we necessarily suspend market forces or are you saying that it's purely a democratic model, the human rights model? Can I sort of answer this in a roundabout way? Well, you have no choice. I'm going to do it anyway. You know, there's a lovely essay by Keith Tribe in the journal Economic Economy and Society, and I forget the date and the page numbers, of course, where he argues that actually perhaps we've misunderstood Foucault's notion of governmentality, where he argues actually what Foucault was trying to understand was how government was beginning to acquire the calculation of the market. So he says that governmentality was not about the state beginning to present itself as a bureaucratic monolith in which people are disciplined through institutions like the prison, the family and the state, but actually acquiring the calculations of the market. And so even public institutions today account in market calculations way. So in a certain sense, then they need not really be a divergence between the state and the market in the classical sense that we understand, but how the state can actually pick up these tricks or calculations, so to speak, and then begin to enforce them without the process of democracy. And this is something that's been flagged by Zizek. I mean, not that one would agree necessarily with him, but he says the difference between Western democracies and the new Western capitalism and the new emerging capitalism in Asia. He says the Asian capitalism is not going to go through the history of democracy that the Western world went through. I mean, debatable, questionable, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But there's a point in arguing that there is going to be perhaps a version of capitalism that doesn't really need the space of civil society anymore. I'm sorry, I'm not intending to be very dark here, but I'm trying to say that there are incredibly revealing signs that one mustn't quite ignore. One is often asked, are you hopeful? It's a bad question in my opinion. You need to really know the context in which this question is being asked. Or is it possible, Rohan, that it doesn't really need the civil society, but it does engage or pretend to be engaging with the civil society in a different guard, like public private partnerships and all that sort of thing, just to keep it happy. But you know, having said that, again, I don't want to throw a big name here, but I was recently struck. Nietzsche, in his wonderful book, Fensic Nietzsche, did I pronounce it wrong? Okay, maybe I did. In his book, Good and Evil, he writes at one level, he says, all morality in some way does violence against nature and, does tyranny against nature and reason. And he says that by itself is not objectionable. What one must understand is that it can't be done unless you have an alternative morality that actually will not accept tyranny or unreasonable. So unless we have a different vision of how we critique capital, it's really a story about corruption and crime only. Yeah, that's a wonderful observation room. On that note, shall we wind up with it? Can you have another question? I just came here to submit that. It just doesn't match the way they can always talk to people. Yeah, sure. Right, right, right. Yes, they have. All right. Oh, thank you. So I don't have to say my name. It's not too bad.