Did y'all get some nice sleep? No, uh, no kind of Okay, I don't know.  Just like get out of here. I'm trying to hunt for rats Like I get away from me I'd be swatting at him and then I hit him once and he died because it's a bird Hey, I think that if you pit an owl once that wouldn't kill an owl Tacky, you know, yeah, now we might be like right now. It's personally pulls out Like how big I'll get I think they can get reasonably big just Isn't a barn owl pretty big. I think so owls are awesome by the way I feel like I've never been mentioned on because I don't think we've ever talked about owls on eFat But like owls are pretty great. I really like owls They're a cool bird quite a distinctive look Yes, they do They the creature where you can stare into the the side of the head and almost see their brain or something or the back of their eyes I think is that that's true They do that. Yeah, through the ear. You can see the back of their eye I'm not sure if that's owls or a different specific animal, but I remember like I know they turn their head around like that's their like big gimmick They're like a turn of their head totally 180. Yeah, I do like We kind of as if creatures we all have gimmicks like it's like what does that one do? Like if an alien was being explained, it's like Moldy you're like it can dig it digs a lot Like what's the deal with dolphins? Oh, they like they jump in the air like they jump out of the water and they were a smart What about humans? Oh, they're all gimmick. Yeah, we just anything. They're just a pile of gimmicks That's how we kind of won and the aliens like doesn't seem fair. It's like well We didn't make the rules Happy new year indeed Oh, yeah, right. This is 2022 people. This is the first stream of 2021 2020 won't you where things are gonna be great. That's why I won't kept saying they must be right, right?  Oh, yeah, those guys they know Wait, wait, Fringy.   Casuaries gimmick is that it can kick through metal sheets with its toes It's the the cassowaries gimmick is it's a dinosaur basically Like they do they're like we should test out on like human flash if it works and look at subject guys It's like no no no Yes The little holding cell Hey chat, did you how many of you are even aware that there is a boba fat reaction out already so I won't my goodness We put it out at a very bizarre time because if that was happening soon after and I was like, oh Gonna have clashing videos and yes, Betty White did did pass away. Unfortunately Yeah, the season finale of 2021 apparent. I want to see the book of Betty White. Oh, yeah, that'll be way better Well, I mean I want it. Yeah, I want to see the the combat would be way better I mean, I hope that this because wasn't weren't they planning like a big special for a hundredth birthday Like they got some people go loads of the mid like two days ago They've got loads of guests and stuff I saw a list like Clint Eastwood is in there and you know That's in those interviews one of the questions to prompt them is probably like now that she's you know 100 years old. What does it mean to look back about? You know, they go have to cut all of that Like cuz making it to a hundred is really really really really special, but Everyone's a word, but she just didn't it's like Sad but from what I saw from reading she died in her sleep So it's like one of the best ways to go. I think that's the only way that death could get her is when she was sleeping Yeah, I Imagine death is probably pretty chill with her is like hey pretty awesome It's so weird. Well, yeah, I mean my fight the impressive Possibly my favorite role for her is when she becomes like a psycho teacher in community. Oh, that was great Yeah, I'm I'm gonna like attack you with this and I want you to use respect to defend yourself And then like immediately just yanks his foot up into the air and chokes out. Yeah, I Respect you. That's why you fail She's great. Yeah, this is nice wholesome great funny woman on It was either I think it was Friday night tights They were showing like the even for Betty white there are people on Twitter who are like Since she was a really age since she was of that era pretty sure she was very racist It's like man, just what is what is wrong with your mind when you're like most against humans that man that is I don't know You need to like get off Twitter. You need to delete that app. You've got to like go the Find them Thank you. They're gonna come to you. Oh My god is the queen next Well queen. Oh, yeah, she's she's been as was said on that stream, too She's been old for like a hundred years They said which for the first president she met I was like pretty sure it's George Washington, but you know, I'll be sure But you know, she'll be around for another 10 million years, I'm sure So Welcome to eFap number 167 who knows what exactly we're gonna get up to today Or rather, I guess I do know exactly what we're giving up to but We can never be sure that we'll get through everything that's on the table And so we will be starting this episode with a poll and you believe it For dancing Not quite First of all, I'd actually be interested in polling You guys to see what the results are but we're gonna do chat as well But if you knew you had to watch Either high-top brown table or movie Bob's opinion on spider-man no way home, which would you choose to enjoy? Which of these delectable tasty treats is right for you. Yeah Yum, we have to enjoy one of them. Mmm. Yeah I'm gonna allow you to pretend for a moment that you don't have to suffer through the other two so Three of you which which would you pick? me I think they want us to cover I This is which one we want or which one do we think they want us to do well Do you think that if we answer the question we could sully the votes potentially and so you'd rather stay?  I mean, it's pretty clear who people want us to watch Haven't looked at what are they saying That's like movie Bob is like by far the most Here's the thing that was gonna be my guess. I think they want us to cover movie Bob That would be my guess whereas like in terms of the one that I find more interesting is like honestly high tops Just because that's like his whole shtick is spider-man There's like a whole conversation that can be had about Just this interpretation of this whole series but the difference between having the actual Yeah, versus that approach whereas with movie Bob.  Yeah, but the mook bomb So much food gets wasted. Oh, yeah I thought the idea was that they had to consume everything Eat it off. Well, I assume since they bought so much Yeah, well, I think it depends on who you're watching right because some people like do the mook bang thing But you know like and you'll see like the woman and they're incredibly like they're clearly pretty healthy And it's like, oh, this is like your job, right?  I guess I guess it's surely it gets concerning when it's like man Like 10 steps.   It's so nasty. What a disgusting human being It's cruel because like I think the first thing I said to you guys is just like they are Actually just killing themselves But I know that's a lot of the because like a lot of creators have made videos about that like Nicocotta avocado killing himself and stuff But he's bizarre as a creator like uh I don't know if it's a character or not But like the damage he's done to himself is is like, you know, that's not a joke Is it like that you it's not in the playing you're not playing a character You're literally gaining like a whole several people's worth of weight It's just water weight. He'll cut right true true um The one I said like it's clearly a fetish thing.  I've never understood it. I got like the I understood the um the eating competition people Who are like, can I Get through 10 hamburgers within two minutes?  But um people just like listen to me squelch through all of my food slowly Squelch.  Is it the audiences that are to blame? I mean What's interesting is that I can say a word and youtube will like punish me and demonetize me and kick me off their platform But youtube will allow these people to basically just kill themselves In front of a cheering clapping audience I feel like the immediate thing to point out though is that that's not like that's just youtube like doing what is Society-ly deemed okay Like I don't even know that that's like a you know, like the problem starts somewhere else You know, it's not like it doesn't start with youtube You know it starts with uh youtube is Allowed it to to exist through having let other things exist that we actually want to like because We wouldn't want youtube to restrict on exactly what you can do. I suppose beyond Because imagine trying to draw the line for that like you can eat on camera, but not too much that you gain too much weight you'd be like Well, it's well, it's the idea that youtube is like we're gonna we're gonna watch out for you And we're gonna take care of you and we want you to be we want our creators to be Healthy mentally and all that sort of thing. We're gonna you know They'll do all that stuff and then these people will just be killing themselves and just destroying their Whatever well, if you were in charge, would you would you make it so that his videos don't enter the algorithm to discourage the success And thus no, I think I would just be more consistent throughout In what way Like I wouldn't ban people and restrict videos on such That like what happens when the ad starts pulling out though Like what if what if an advertiser sees something that gets clipped or it's like, ah look He said something really offensive. We're pulling ads.  Then what do you do? I don't know. I'd have to see the I don't like youtube's a lot of youtube's decisions either But like if it was like people often forget that youtube is a business Like that they need to keep the lights on And that the service that they provide is like super useful I'm certainly not convinced that a lot of the videos that are demonetized are actually part of that ad issue at all Uh, I mean, I guess it's hard to say right is like because we're not there.  Well, sure But I mean youtube youtube is not like As strict on these things as a lot of other platforms are Like there's a lot of stuff on youtube that isn't allowed on like twitch or on twitter Or on a lot of other places In some ways we like youtube seems to be more vague than twitch Yeah, I think so, which I guess is beneficial and not beneficial. It's like if there's no line How is it I someone said it's not a good argument because youtube loses money It's like surely that's a better argument, right? You don't want to keep losing even more money I don't get that Really, I'm assuming you were just trying to give a hypothetical for where how do you balance Um the platforms longevity and the employees Wages versus Exactly and I guess You know at this point it seems like applying the standards consistently Like on any platform It's like the rules are vague on purpose Um, so anyway, you ever wonder if youtube should like email these people like maybe if it's thinking of nothing against the rules But they email them and say hey, this is, you know, britney from youtube the creator support or whatever You know, we used to be watching your videos and uh You okay? Yeah, all right there You you ate 100 dollars of chick filet the other day and you cried and I was just You know Uh You all right there Is this a horrific cry for help? I mean, uh, what's going on Buddy, what's going on buddy? Oh pal We're making a video about it Apparently when anybody ever criticizes a nicocato, he makes a video eating stuff while responding Complaining me, but uh, you know, I I don't know what's going on with it. It seems like everybody I'm more angry at the people who watch it it is a weird forced industry almost and because Man people really do love watching Chung's people just eat food You're out there. There's probably a few in our audience right now Who uh, who are there like ha ha? Yeah, no, that's shit and then they just slowly start closing the well, maybe not even closing the tabs Oh, you know um, so anyway Today we're gonna we're gonna have to look at that Uh, one of these these videos at least and it does seem Is an overwhelming successful one of three In fact, it kind of dictated the uh, the order that we would watch them if we get through enough today, but Uh, movie Robert has won with 48 percent of the vote Uh, high top has 33 Brown table has 20 Brown table being the least popular of the three. I don't exactly know what the reasoning for that would be We all love brown table here. It's great um The numbers slightly changed me to complete it as well, but I think I think brown table I I would rather cover brown table than high top. I think I really I'm not I'm never sure about that. Uh, I don't know I think the reason why movie bob got the highest is because he's movie bob specifically like not anything to do with this Take necessarily I like actually just that yeah It's been a while since we covered it was other people already. It's only a small one for him I think it's like six or seven minutes. So I know that's easy Well, you say that but the problem is that he's the only creator we've ever had to actually put on slow down because we can't Comprehend he does the speed ramp thing for some reason How long is this video? his one is Seven minutes It's a fairly small video for an average person. Oh, yes Um, I've given out the uh, the watch together if everyone wants to jump in we got three right now Who be who be for someone's mister? Yeah, uh Alrighty, this is just a proper preamble for this spider-man came out move up has opinions on it. Let's see what they are Nothing can prepare you no Man, you've our productions presents. Okay, so this is the I'm sorry the audio quality is like unacceptable for a channel that's made around this long He's only been doing this for 36 years. It's that's not enough time to learn It makes me think if he's got the same microphone you had when he started like He just that he's like, you know, it's cost efficient. Never had to upgrade and you're like, okay um that I don't understand this That there's been no desire to like change it or improve the audio quality I don't need the but uh, here we go Okay, so this is the spoiler free review of the movie So it's gonna be short to the point But I just want to say up front again without explicitly I'm pretty sure he does have that accent, but it's never been this thick like it feels like he's uh, he's Sensuating it. I don't know why but um boiler Spoiler yeah, don't worry chasby spoiler free from his video It won't be spoiler free from us and I think that if you're worried about a spoiling spider-man in Been a while now Plus we talked about extra holy cap I'm so like, you know how Because now I'm just thinking about this because like the big thing with the movie bulb is that he just likes using a lot of Big words and long sentences Way too way too much. I'm even looking at this little thing and I'm like I feel like there are words that you could cut from this Like uh previously released. It's like, you know like In trailers or tv spots Yeah, exactly You know what I mean like but even released you could you know this reviewer spoiler three and does not include Any significant plot or story details? Uh that have not been revealed in trailers or tv spots Yeah, you're practically half the size and did the exact same thing.  It's it's gorgeous You say I don't think I can imagine that it's because you're weak-minded race. I can imagine it easily exactly About on this all dressed up. Mm-hmm. That's right. What's so hard to understand about that? I don't have a one can have a funny hat just a blank spot. I know absolutely. We got funny hats Dude stylish hats. What's they're gonna change fashion forever? Mm-hmm That's not actually part of the full movie that so many had about I think it's damn near the funniest thing I've seen all goddamn. Yeah. I couldn't be happier about it. Yeah I feel like he's definitely playing up the voice Isn't the man of audio or is he actually clipping? Um, it feels like he's very close to clipping. I thought yeah I can hear it too. I thought the video was jumping. I wasn't sure What kind of mind york I feel like it's it's I don't even think it's that I think it's like a headset microphone Yeah, like there's a microphone you used to have on the headsets when you were playing games like ps3 Like It's so bad Um, also, I have no idea what he's talking about that's something about like there's some in the movie He finds really funny. What is he talking about the full movie that so many people are so bad about This is going to be spoiler free despite the fact that everybody knows that uh, tome and andrew Yeah, people are mad about something in this movie. What's he's talking about? All right, I maybe we'll find out in the review but I because I have no idea Well, I can't hear that peaking too already. He is peaking in his microphone. Yeah Oh that one thing that's not actually part of the full movie When you're editing your video and like in vegas it goes red Does that not like make you do anything or do you just like not even notice? I don't understand the process here How is this okay? I guess he's just never even learned What it is that is the problem.  Maybe it is just like going through the motions For him because how long has been doing this for like like 10 years? We should cut him up and count the rings I'm pretty sure he started like he's one of the og youtubers or at least close to right And his format hasn't evolved since like 2009 Probably other than that, but yeah I want to say upfront again without explicitly spoiling anything involved that one thing That's not actually part of the full movie that so many people are so mad about I think it's damn near the funniest thing. I've seen all goddamn. Yeah, I couldn't be happier about it And everybody being so I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know. Yeah I have no idea. Yeah I'm maybe engaged and it's like that happened after this video came out so But also that's not in the film. Well, he said also that's not funny Okay, but is it funny? He's like is are people mad about that? Well, like I said, it's the timeline doesn't match up. So I don't think it's that Okay Yeah What that venom was in it and then wasn't and people were mad about that because I wanted him in it for more That is in the movie though I I I I have no idea. I don't know.  Are we gonna get like a title for this episode underneath? Oh, yeah I love this.  It's like we are going into the future 2022 But also it's like we're going into the past Yeah time machine Go back to the year 2009 Well, I remember um when I did that the outlast review and I was looking at everyone's reviews of it It's like we had a lot of this where it's just like this was the thing to do at one point but um The aesthetic of like video essays and just videos in general everyone on youtube has gotten so much better Like this is just not acceptable anymore, but he's stuck it like so far back There you go, robert's nice Now man This is really annoying me like now because i'm looking at this just You've got like your logo, which is whatever but then to have the text come up with like the The the shadow on the back but white like against the black text And then the little reflections in the text as well And just like that's impact, isn't it? That's like the impact text. Oh my god, spider man.  Like it looks cheap Seriously though just like peak like when you're doing stuff with text you don't need these things Okay, like the text is fine. You can you can get away with just having the text It looks like a movie maker preset Well, that's that's that's why it's better to just stick with the text and not do that much with it when you can Because like this just reeks of oh, it's not good enough that it's a text I need to like put more shit on it To make it look cool like You can do a drop shadow and that'll that'll be good enough like if you if you really need to do anything with it I I guess this is just Is the white and other glow I think so it's just like you know You don't need to do like a typography class But like if you just like watch maybe like one video on typography it'll it'll do wonders What are people saying it's off center as well? So we need to get off this uh Oh my goodness help people's mental sadness the big thing that's frustrating is there's more space in the bottom Beneath no way home than there is at the top for the big screen And there's no divider right There's no line to separate the title of the show from the title of the the episode There's not a big enough gap like this is a lot of just this is the it's I just I I think that on some level you intuitively understand that something is wrong with this image um Wow something. There's a lot of things. I don't like about this image. I think the music is the most music thing to me It's so old like it's so generic Yeah, it's a generic like like a like an early 90s piece de shooter like this is from the Like this is the stuff they cut out of the duke nukem soundtrack Like the first one They're like now this is just too generic and it's not gonna be good on our little computer game Just get rid of it and Bob's like i'll scoop that shit up. Yeah, you're right Like you look at doom soundtrack and they were like we got to be creative.  We're going to do some cool little drum rhythms It's like what what no just use the riff like that's just sitting there in the corner like what's wrong with the guitar if it's great Listen to that. Well, he's I think he's been using it since 2000 like eight Why a it ain't broke don't fix it, right? Oh, it's someone. Oh my god. Someone's pointed it out the the on the big screen is misaligned Oh, yeah. Oh, you're right. The tea. Yeah, it should be Yeah, that's an that one's and that's an odd one because of the the e lines up a lot on the bottom The e lines up So that's the thing that you learn with like kerning and stuff like that is that sometimes you are actually An even gap between letters. Sometimes that's not what you want Sometimes you want to close up a little bit or make it a little bit bigger just because of the gaps that exist between like You know, like a t in an i Or like just some letters are much bigger than other letters And so you need to like tweak them and mess around and then you can have something that's not like fully Sensitive and even but just looks better, but he hasn't done anything here Like he hasn't He just he just put that he just maybe sent or aligned it Maybe even didn't do that just like moved his mouse over the screen so lined it up. It's like that's good enough It's just really bugging me. There's definitely a it's good enough color composition vibe from movie bomb videos And what's this in the background on the on the right here and just spilt popcorn built popcorn. Oh, that's stock image Oh, yes Imagine if he got like a really high quality rendered painting like of that just to have something a little bit unique I must have had some spending money to get assets, right? Well, because he used to work for the escape, right? Yeah, he used to work for the escape like he's he's had More than a decade and like this. Well, I guess that's the interesting thing right because you know Zero punctuation was and still is with the escape. It's like well.  Yeah, yeah But um, we also have have this little bit of a news apparently. I don't know how verifiable this is, but I'm amused by the tweet Yo I'm not gonna get it on screen. Just That's hilarious As everyone knows the next dcu movie that's on the way New ones. Anyway, is that the flash right? I am right about that, right?  Yeah, that's the flash That's what it's called. Now you got according to binge watch this hashtag the flash Will reportedly erase all of zaxnider's movies from the dcu meaning both aflac and cavill are gone Which is not the good part that ending bit there, but um I suppose you can say the good part is just um, they might be resetting their continuity, which is very much for the best at this point Uh, the mcu needs to do that as well to be fair But I just like god that's gonna piss people off quite a bit In fact, let's look at these quote tweets your sad face Crying oh no Our our horrific evil superman Is gonna this won't be canon The baby killing superman won't be the part of the official dcu. Oh no We'll see what happens. I mean, I'll I'll want to see the flash now just to Well for michael keaton, but also just to see if they actually go through with that Decanonize it. It'll be amusing, but um, you know The I don't know how many people on the internet will feel the same way as us, but you guys you've seen all of our dcu If our movies We're not fond. All right.  We're not the fondest we get is what we love at it.  Oh the humanity They're so bad. Anyway, let us continue with this blast from the past. Oh, yeah Switch out no way home for like, you know, this is the first spider-man. It's like everything would have lined up so far I wouldn't be a good way to like that'd be a fun game to play You just ran someone randomly picked some movie bob video and you have to guess what year it was made They all look the same. How would you ever know? I guess you could guess from the the filmy's reviewing Maybe maybe you don't play that part So it's no secret that I regard what I guess we're supposed to I was gonna say like we've seen enough movie bob to know that this is unusual for him. Why is he cranking that accent so much Yeah, I don't get it. Come on, bob it. You don't want to get cringy vibes. Don't do it So it's no secret that I regard what I guess we're supposed to now consider the spider-man's solo home title pun trilogy As one of the most uneven franchises in the model cinematic universe. No, if anything, it is the most even I was gonna say like what do we compare this to if you look at iron man That's like iron man is super uneven captain america is like wow winter soldier Yeah, we consider it very uneven Thor is incredibly uneven like if you're gonna say that it's anything would be Thor Yeah, because look at ragnarok compared to the full one. You're like, what is I guess we definitely people different people made these Ant-man is more even in that it's nothing. It's just very I guess so you could call that even yeah once we get the three. Yeah, no This is not the most uneven one I still don't think coming was very good. I like tom Holland The movie is that great far from home is decent but still kind of all over the place and now no way home You kind of wrong there too, but It would depend on what he means. I don't know What is decent made in his world If he means like four to six then it's like then that would be more. Yeah Middleish he liked tlj, so But yeah, it's always bizarre to me tlj is great homecoming is pretty not very good though From away no contest the best of the series and still the best live action spider-man solo ish movie Anyone has attempted since sam raymie is pretty damn good. Wow. Wow Okay, it's too long but somehow ends up feeling rushed over stuff with both plot characters and unearned sense of self-importance, but also frequently Unearned sense of self-importance could that unearned sense of self-importance Is is the unearned because of the fact that it's just the multiverse that brings in all of these people in events or is he And Does he mean that the raymie and other the other Spider-man series Are they self-import? Have they earned their self-importance or Like is he trying to say that in contrast to the other series? Because like it's important to the m's storyline and especially spider-mans. I don't see I don't think we're gonna get an explanation for that. I think it's just Be sad. We'll have to move on We wait less Form for its own good and while getting into any more than the most general spoilers commitment when it comes to that marvel mandatory commitment to Self-wear metanarrative it can't quite square the circle of simultaneously be a tribute to the previous cinematic history. You need to I was following it.  I'm sorry. They're just too long. That's and they just run on Run on sentences that's how is that a thing? I don't know but it's a thing like that's all he does He loves doing it. I don't know why it's like he only writes with commas. No snowfall stops Like I it's really annoying.  Is that is that what he's saying? We have to rewind like 30 seconds Well, this is this is how we did the movie both videos might be small But the covering of him can take a long time unfortunately He has to decipher that you have to like you have to listen to it multiple times just to catch it all Yeah meant when it comes to that marvel mandatory commitment to self-wear metanarrative It can't quite square the circle of simultaneously be a tribute to the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies quasi integration of the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies and koi humble brag affirmation of how History of spider-man movies. It's like the cinematic history of spider-man or spider-man previous spider-man movies Cinematic and movies in the same sense. It feels like Just you're wasting words It was cinematic.  That's what cinema is. Are you forgetting that it makes this video longer? Which is I guess We I guess that's the funny thing right it almost reveals like The sentences are so long and there's so many superfluous words that what is seven minutes, which is already short Is more like three like in terms of content that's here Yeah This could be a page cinematic history of spider-man movies and koi humble brag affirmation of how this current cinematic spider-man is the best One ever and why and all the so that's not really I don't think that's in the film That's present in the film at all. Yeah You could argue this film is if anything toby is considered the best because he's the most like well-rounded and completed But I don't think the film's choosing any one of them. Yeah, it's not taking sides Yeah, we like all of you even you like it's not your fault adrew beguire That bastard The reasons for this awkwardness are about the same as they've been the whole time We are watching what happens when the best superhero movie producing studio ever to do the job and uh Wow The best I mean Well, yeah, because if we're categorizing it like yeah, I guess they Well could even compare sony made in a certain sense sony. Well, I mean Like it's the spot of us. That's sony Yeah, but sony you've done lots of individual movies like nobody's done what the mcu's done yet So it's not even fair to compare really. Um I well, yeah, I guess I've come the closest fox They did a lot of x-men films and fantastic for and like and then at that point It's like do you think that the mcu as a franchise is superior to the x-men Franchise or at least I I wonder if you rewatch all the x-men films. It was like, hmm You know what like x-men not that inconsistent The mcu was higher highs but also lower lows Awesome.  I guess, you know, wow days of future past. That's the controversial one, isn't it? Like yeah, because everyone's that movie and it's not like it's got a lot of problems So has all of uncle's money to throw around has to share movie making duties with the crumbling remnants of sony pictures Reblance. Yeah, I think he said Reblance Remlance remlance to new batch Last valuable IP for dear life and continuing to them you say that but they won Like whether or not they would struggle like they have won they have control of a spider-man spider-man Shit tons of money. This This is this feel I feel like if we look past superhero movies That like that this is not a correct statement That like sony has nothing in terms of like its catalog or like anything that it's uh, I don't know I I guess the problem is i'm blanking right now. I still think he's wrong if he was just talking about movies He's saying this like they're desperately clinging to spider-man when it's like they've gone him He's theirs. Well, they yeah, I guess in the sense. It's like, well, it's not yours. It's like, well What does that mean disney bought marvel? Does that mean that marvel's not theirs because it used to be independent and belongs to someone else? They're making sputum in movies. How far back do we want to go? Yeah Wow, I mean look at how much money this movie has made more money than the rest of the phase four films combined Yeah Like pretty hilarious. I doubt that so he's sweating. You know like right now Oh, dude, I feel like they must have so much confidence. They've got so much leverage Look at how many movies they're making they've got like like three or four like other live action like Spider-man characters they're making like into the spider-verse sequel Like they're making tv shows. I think as well. It's like damn Didn't venom also do better in box office than like shang chi Yeah, the venom made more money than all of them. It made 500 million which is better than all of the other ones Sony are already making their universe. They're they're yeah, they're making that universe You know, it's so funny. They've siphoned off the emcee a little bit and now they can leave now Crumbling remnants of sony pictures clinging to the last value life I think some of those guys about to demonstrate how they became the crumbling remnants of sony pictures in the first place Like a time carpentry show where one builder is a master engineer with decades of experience And the other one just keeps slapping gobs of peanut butter and duplos against the wall and you can almost Which in this analogy, we'll see that's the problem if you're gonna use an analogy I need to know what it represents I don't I think he's saying that uh that like sony is the there's like the bad engineer and like disney marvel is Like the good engineer. I if anything, I think that's the reverse at this point um Well, I think that's the problem is there still seems to be this general consensus that like our marvel's competent It's like, I don't know at this point like with what's happening I guess competent in the sense that like Well, no not even because I was about to say like profitable It's like well the movies aren't making money, but like they're not making as much money as they used to Like you going oh, hey, that's great little buddy You're doing great But even if you don't know the Byzantine Hollywood stuff behind the scenes of these I still feel like something is off still comes What does he mean when he says Byzantine? Yeah, like what is Byzantine about? What an audit analogy So Byzantine means of a system or situation excessively complicated and typically involving a great deal of administrative of administrative detail All right, okay So in the sense like the spider-man movies are highly complicated from like a business standpoint because it's like shared responsibilities between two competing studios That is integrated into the ip belonging to one studio, I guess I assume so And in that sense it is complicated. It's it's because from what I understand like this is pretty unprecedented to have like two major studios Because saying it's Byzantine makes you sound smarter Oh Even if the even if the people who listen to it don't know what you mean. Exactly. Yeah Because a big smart comes before Like making a point that people can understand that's coherent Yeah, and you're not using it as an opportunity to like Explain the word which is like Byzantine and complicated You know, you didn't just say that or even if you don't know what Byzantine means You're like, oh, it probably means like complicated or something and you just carry on I think you could assume a couple things. You'd be like, maybe he means it's um Nepotistic or maybe he means it's yeah, it could be that a super antiquate or old and struggles with red tape or the Or that it's complicated, you know, you can go with a whole bunch and I think yeah An old inefficient system is probably if you were to ask me before I looked it up I probably would have said it's it is an old system of making things that is not ideal Yeah, um, but I I just don't know I've You know people who are going to be like us and who are going to stop and look it up and go to the second definition of it And be like, oh, that's what he means is probably a very very very low number because the by the time you do that He's already said 12 other sentences and I feel like you're just lost There are people who consume these they're in the comment section and they claim to enjoy it Um, I don't even know that they absolve anything that he says This is actually yeah, I do wonder it is it is difficult to get the points that he is saying He's too fast. Yeah, it was definitely too fast. Yeah I think he even speeds himself up. I'm not sure I think he does speed himself up. I don't This seems fed up Efeb has the hubris to judge god bob. We do Great little buddy, you're doing great But even if you don't know the Byzantine Hollywood stuff behind the scenes of these I still feel like something is off still comes through and yet Yeah, if you'll forgive the run on tangent this one works in spite of itself Just like the last one worked in spite of itself even more so this time and when it eventually gets to where it's going Which does kind of take a while so settle in. This is definitely a December paste blockbuster You know, you think Like I'm looking at just all this the background the logos the patreon thing I'm just It really is like a time machine. Yeah, the it's like you just stepped back in time to Is the patreon thing stretched? Well, I was gonna say it looks like anything that's compressed Oh, you mean the logo the logo was low res for sure. Look at it Look at that. How are we? How? There are so many high quality like patreon photos that you could just pull from google Background music as well is really funny. Yeah, it well, it's not just that Someone I guess someone snagged a movie bob on patreon before he got it So he had to have a one to his I suppose But I like to think that not to toot my own horn, but I like to think that I'm pretty good at getting Let's say faces drawn faces to match with audio, you know, I like to think I'm okay at that I've done it once or twice.   I don't get people. I don't get people Sociology is a scam. The only reason you would ask is because it was really low or really high. So I uh, I really flipped the God Off by a factor of 10.  Do you think this is a collection of people who've like got dead accounts and just haven't corrected it? That feels like an odd thing to have a dead account for something that costs you a lot of money Like if it's one one or two dollar patron and it just ends up in your And you just maybe you have a couple people you're a patron. Oh, and you forgot your patreon I don't know how else to explain this.  If you put Like I'm I'm not getting much on patreon now because I've been as active on my channel, but In terms of like putting investing back into the channel I have many months worth of patreon have been invested back into the channel these last couple months for me With him. He's making 3k a month And his videos look like shit And he he only uses like artwork artwork and clips and stuff like that for his channel, so I'm like if you just spent half of a month's patreon revenue on just art And thumbnail designs for your channel you would look it would look so good And he just clearly hasn't done it or he got scammed I don't know that there's any interest in evolving the format that that's kind of not him. I get it. It's just that's gotta be it There just can't be Well, it almost seems like because he would have done it. Yeah If it was he would have done it If it was like a factor of a lot of things like just oh the format works. It's like works Yeah, like and I can just and then just keep doing it and maybe not even like treating it as like that valuable as work You know like it's not that important. It's not that meaningful It's like well these are movie reviews, right? I'm just talking about movies. I gotta get these out. I gotta get each You know one a week Though then you can make this and not a week I don't know It's interesting though because like you have to question like how much is incompetence and then how much is laziness Because like He's attempting with these little still frames though and like stuff, but it just looks so ugly Sorry, man. It's just hideous. I don't want to say Yeah, there's a there's a tempt was just so odd Buster designed for hey, it's cold outside yet got somewhere else to be theater going It's genuinely hard not to be moved and feel like you've really watched this assembly of characters arrived somewhere Which is no small feat given that half of them are regulars from a series that hasn't exactly bothered to flesh anyone out Much to this point to begin with and half of them are guests. Do you don't want the mcu there? Yeah, I think so Oh, maybe he's talking about like Ned and mj and happy I guess which I mean, it's really happy with like howry and amazing spot-a-man suit. I guess so. I don't know Because it's done so quickly that it's like hard to grasp the points too much Stars from other movies counting on universal receiving on sale To buy osmosis to do most of the initial heavy lifting in what is essentially a lesser lot See that see like the cut in between the sentences like that wasn't natural He cut out the space in between the sentences and you can tell Because there's like the abrupt start of a sentence.  He chops all the gaps from the audio and then just shoves them all up. I don't think he looks at the timing at all Yeah, he like he's looking at the he's looking at the physical waves on the The program whenever he uses and he cuts using that even though It's not accurate really Especially at the beginning and end of sentences when it tapers off on both sides And it's not really accurate to the little line going up and down for the volume And so like bits just get cut off at the ends He's talking about the tazen films which he hated. There's only one character From well, I guess you you could argue lizard and taz Electro, but I don't I don't get the vibe. He's talking about them Um when he said that Rami films, right? I thought you saw one of the mcu ones when he said the the limited He's saying that those ones have limited by comparison to you know, the other films presumably yeah Rami By osmosis to do most of the initial heavy lifting in what is essentially a lesser live action cover of into the spider Verse speaking of which the I mean the films are completely different. So I don't know. Yeah, they are completely different Is it just because it has multiverse in it? And that's it's the same it just has multiverse in it. So it's basically It's basically in game Yeah, the plot is in fact significantly more complicated than what's being relayed by the trailers But for the sake of avoiding spoilers most of the starting setup goes as advertised with his secret identity now known in A cues of murder so that the whole people knowing spider-man see like he couldn't let murder breathe No, he had to cut off murder.  It's an old I think it's like 50s or 60s something like that but there is There's a character in it and I forget what his name was but it's basically like a kid who Goes into a phantom toll booth and he goes to this land Where there's all these characters who teach him lessons about life and things of that nature and one of the characters that he meets is I forget its name but the idea is that This character gets you to waste your time with useless tasks And not devote your efforts to things that are meaningful and I feel like That is like the character who's who struck movie bob Movie bob He'll go through all the effort in the trouble because like because in the book the the this task giver guy He says all right I want you to go ahead and carve out a cave in this wall and I want you to use this needle Right Because it's just this useless menial task that will take you forever to do but is oddly engaging and I feel like Him when he goes back into his audio and he's clipping out all these little bitty pieces and taking out all the space between the sentences when he should be Like just practicing his manner of speech Getting better assets to look at things like that That's what comes to mind I suppose. I mean he's you're right.  Why bother is it just so that an image changes? I think they're supposed to evoke Uh, what they tell you what he feels is supposed to be evoked by whatever he's saying Like uh that face we just saw like this is his I am happy face. I guess That's his like I am consumed Yeah What the world actually means for teenagers in 2021 versus the classic version of these stories where getting attacked by villains Would be the first problem instead of what the real inciting incident turns out to be for the kids here And attempts to get his wizard friend doctor straying to cast a spell that will make the world forget that the unmasking ever happened But when peter tries to tamper with the details to preserve memories of certain friends and family something goes wrong And be broken magic instead pulls enemies of alternate incarnations of you run out of breath And then he just kept going even though it created this horrible gap in the sense Surely in your head it should just be If I run out of breath this sentence is too long and I should be cut down No Or maybe I am horrifically overweight and I am so out of shape that I am just Running out of steam while I'm talking talking. I'm so fat now that just talking you have to take breaths Like I understand it's just it's definitely the sentences.  He had to he had to stitch Duology to the end of whatever he was doing because he couldn't manage to do and instead of just saying the sentence over again He's like no, I'll just I'll just use surgery And I'll just attach duology to the end of that sentence. It'll be fine. No one will no one will notice Is your page click on dollars at work? Yeah Dimensionally displaced bad guys Peter himself then gets cold feet when he learns most of them remove not only from different older movies But different time periods So hope you like jokes about technological progress are eventually going to be killed by their universe's spider-man He becomes reluctant to send them back putting him in direct conflict with the sorcerer supreme and setting up a surprising second Half of the film that's one part a lot of this video is summarizing the This off the film. Yeah Yeah, I guess so I mean, I don't know what else Watched his spoiler video, but he doesn't have one. He just has a spoiler free one.  That's the problem is the use of it's like just because you use like a word that's abstractly not really Usually sits in that sentence and it evokes a particular thing.  It's like, yeah, you know maybe because if I describe someone as tactile I just feel like okay. Do you mind explaining that because that's kind of useless I feel it Lack of a better words spider-man nests that not only this france of the Byzantine tomb, yes Guys has somewhat lacked for two prior films and maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling But also one part wait what? I don't I don't know Only this franchise has somewhat lacked for two prior films And maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling but also one is he I don't know what point he's trying to make being critical of Other films lacking in aspects of what this one has Because he was saying Heart growth impact tactile human scale raw action and for lack of a better word Spider-man nests that not only this franchise has somewhat lacked for two prior films And maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling but Other films other spider-man films or just other films Infinity wars he's talking about the tazen movies or he's talking about the reimey movies I don't know It's open for interpretation, which it shouldn't be because I need well because he said that would be telling But the thing is we know he thinks the tazen movies are bad I'm pretty sure his videos on it same for reimey being good. He has videos on that. So I don't know what He's talking about the war And the the new one I'm very confused. Um, I yeah, I don't know what he's referring to which means I can't really Just pull anything out of what he's trying to say Part way to meta occasionally off-putting franchise management exercise. Did you say occasionally? I think so So I've been so one part way to meta occasionally off-putting franchise management exercise in which things happen because they must Characters make abrupt personality shifts to accommodate those musts as marvel disney and sony very loudly get their ducks in a row for whatever comes next Well, also maybe working out in a lab I know I have no examples to work with here. It's just it's all this ethereal Referencing other things and I don't I don't know what to pull from this because that's his way of staying spoiler free I guess but you can reference other movies You know and stay spoiler free yeah Abbott philosophical metaphor making a case for zoomer presentism That's maybe also an extremely cynical framing for disney owning everything ever as a zoomer presentism.  Let me look at presentism. I assume it means a focus on the present presentism Uncritical adherence to present-day attitudes, especially the tendency to interpret past events in terms of modern values and concepts So saying that that's what zoomers are that they interpret the past through a modern lens And that's like a zoomer thing and that has something to do with disney owning everything Isn'tism I just I ain't heard that one like this just feels a bit like Reaching, you know almost to like make some broad points about society You know Well, yeah, let's see it in context making a case for zoomer presentism That's maybe also an extremely cynical framing for disney owning everything ever as a moral principle in itself But that's another show the white. Well. How was a moral principle Maybe he's talking about the fact that there are a lot of people who are just like gleeful at the notion of disney Like the film really happy Yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know. I have no idea what he means But disney is struggling to keep a claw on spider-man because sony can just pull them away whenever they want Especially with the contract up And then it's like so that doesn't really match your thing there Spider-man is if that's owned by sony while disney has the marvel universe Funnily enough, you wouldn't think it that actually balances out because of how popular spider-man is right now And always has been that's why there was that quote when they said nobody cared about the other marvel characters It's like well, they were kind of wrong The fact of it is the constant with the marvel films is that they live and die on the characters that are often bigger than the Individual films they appear in and to the degree that I don't agree I think a lot of people that's the opposite actually Yeah, the opposite of anything ant-man lives off of the fact that he's part of the mcu Yeah captain marvel is probably the primo example of this You slap anything between infinity war and in game and that thing's making a billion dollars We might be past that era now um Yeah, maybe Because like, you know, if they say like new avengers is coming out I I do worry for the mcu like depending on who the fuck's headlining that like I wonder how many people is gonna draw Because you lost your iron man in your cap And spider-man, I'm guessing he won't be in the next avengers I assume he won't be why not. Yeah Hope not. I hope I hope not sir This time tom holland has both the best material in a solo film Anyway, he's been given to work with in the role and isn't being asked to shoulder the burden entirely on his own With zandaya jig of batalon and mercer today all getting fairly beefy parts this time along See he did that cut in the a sentence and he clearly Went back for whatever reason that sentence was unacceptable It did not meet the high movie bob quality standards and it needed to be changed Alongside guest stars are actually a significantly bigger part of this than the heavily advertised dr. Strange businesses Though it is fun watching team marvel pair up that side of their toolbox with teenage characters and throw together Basically, they're much more sarcastic version of a harry potter movie at least until they have to pull strange off the board See you did it again. Yeah, he does it like how is this not a spoiler by the way the dr. Strange isn't in it that much Well, yeah, because that that's weird halfway through the film at that point right where he gets yanked at Yeah Okay, I guess he's willing to spoil some stuff I guess it's a mild spoiler to say that he's not in it that much Well, what if you come into the movie thinking dr. Strange is going to be in it huge You know, he's on the poster right look at him. Look at how big he is Yeah, we guessed you would get booted out, but I don't think you'd have to say that is a spoiler of some sort, right? I guess it has to me. It wasn't in the trailers that he would be booted out Yeah, I think if you were only going from the trailers you could imagine he was in the whole film Well, remember even in the trailer you've got him like, oh, they're all coming through or no one it's framed Yes, she's like the last part Yeah, it's framed us him being there in the fight because it's night time when in reality it's daytime in that scene Most of act 2 and 3 so there can like be an act 2 and 3 as I think is sometimes the case with the marvel movies It probably sounds like this is all in a hand I love it Oh, well, I was going with the whole heat once again Cutting his sentences in half and you can clearly tell that sentences are just stitched and cut up and put All together It's easier, right? Like if you if you flub the latter portion of a sentence And you're like, well, I just need to read the end again And you have no concern for how it flows.  That's just bizarre Until there are use of one's effort in attention to detail Mm-hmm Strange off the board for most of act 2 and 3 so there can like be an act 2 and 3 As I think is sometimes the case with the marvel movies It probably sounds like this is more of a negative review than it actually is though You know partly since a lot more the interesting things they fall under spoiler territory But also because at this point we're either at or about to hit 30 of these goddamn things And if you count the tv show it's amazing all you have to do is play trailer footage You know or just some little clips And put an overlay over it. That's nice and easy Every once in a while, maybe throw in a different face No problem at all takes a couple seconds to do that and seven minute script You can probably crank one of those out and when he's recording that in like eight minutes because of yeah It literally gives a shit about the quality of it You can make a video like this and easily under an hour Yeah Whole thing start to finish we're talking like You oh you need to make a video you have an hour and you can crank this out and it's done And then you just have to Hit upload it to youtube and boom. It's done 3k a month Nice and easy He shows basically none of them are below a b plus so the stuff that's good here is just kind of oh Yeah, wow the marvel did he just say none of them are white hold on we need to hear that again I had to hit 30 of these goddamn things and if you count the tv shows basically none of them are ever below a b plus so the stuff that's good here is just kind of Wow, none of them are below a b Didn't he say that he thinks like So he thinks spider-man far from home is a b plus even though he said it was is b plus he must be missing in his world He must be talking about the cd first, right? He said in even including or not. Oh, right He said even including the cv shows right or so everything either way the mcu is not below a b plus like damn Well, that's it's like that's like the The consensus a lot of the time right where people like even when they're like not that good They're really bad. Whereas I think it is the heart take that it's like actually a good portion of these movies aren't that good Yeah Um, I think there is a general consensus that marvel is pretty consistent, which yeah, but that should be a normie take from just some guy Some normal person on the street Yeah, not someone who's a movie reviewer. Yeah Oh, yeah. Wow the new marvel movie is a totally rock solid front-of-back action blockbuster The humor lands the fight seems a terrific basically the only studio that still knows how to do plot structure in a big movie anymore There's great. What what what are you talking about? What are you? Actually, what are you talking? They don't know how to do that? Secondly?  They've been made fun of semi regularly for third acts that are just insane Like there's just like black widow for examples.  They're flat in terms of cinematography. Like they're very much An assembly line film, but they're okay Whereas I think the actual take is no all that first parts true, but also it's like man We we have a lot of bad movies here. Oh, yeah Looking effects work and blowing twists and act two and three etc etc. The score is good So in the end, especially in a non-spoiler review, it's what doesn't work that are the surprises that are at least worth talking about Otherwise.  Definitely worth seeing and I would say yes, ultimately I don't when he says that a movie's good. I don't know what that means I didn't even get the impression that he thought it was good from a lot of stuff. He said but I guess he does Yeah, I guess Worth what it took to get here even if it seems like our send-off is okay Maybe this time this character will progress meaningfully beyond the specific point. Guess we'll find out But until then yeah, call it a seven but a strong You fucker The thing that everyone does don't bounce your goddamn bells properly Seven definitely check it out. I got a good time with it Even when he's talking it's like his mic is weakening It's a crashy Can you please appreciate the comic time against that? It seems like a parody video where it just comes in with this stupid music again Well, then yeah, call it a seven but a strong seven definitely check it out. I got a good time with it Just got Years on I guess so I love the idea that he was born in like the 60s and he's like struggling to make this shit work anymore He's a nearly 40 stone I don't know what stone is rags. You're gonna convert that to real weights Well, I know it's 14 pounds. I don't know what that is and kiwi So again 14 pounds 14 pounds on that much Hold on kilogram to stone.  Um, all right. In fact, I think you'd be dead if you rated 14 pounds Okay, so No, nice.  What is he almost 40 and I was like 40 stone Which means yes, so Uh, apparently a stone is 6.35029 kilograms But it was worth it all things considered Oh, there wasn't a lot to say with that one. A lot of it was just confusion He said an odd thing here and there some wrong things about his ability to assess quality, which is Pretty bad considering his line of work. Um, a lot of it was just plot synopsis and ambiguous explanations of things without explaining things and Yeah, it wasn't like he was really trying to say anything.  You didn't really say anything that was Yeah By a microphone, they're not expensive you make 3k. I mean, I don't I don't know what the food budget is over there But surely you could put a put some pennies aside to get a a microphone maybe In your video where you talked for a living I just can't believe with that level of patreon that he's not able to fund You know Better everything for his channel He should have at least a couple of employees right with that Without anyone really work for him. I don't think so Well, look at this video like if I don't I guess if you are the kind of person and you only want a certain level of Like you can keep this style and have it look good Yeah, yeah Um, so even if he was like it's all gonna be me. It's just a one-man production. I'm I'm maybe he's just not good It would clearly he's not good at video editing So I want to keep it simple And I just want it to be nice and look nice, but it doesn't look nice Even this is blurry. Is that I is that the way in the real video the text at the end? Let me Let me go to the end And see Let me go to You might render it all out in 720. I don't know Honestly, because I'm I'm looking at this in 1080p 60.  I'll just screenshot it and it's just Like it's legitimately Like blurry text Yeah And it should look better here because I've shrunk. It's been shrunk down for discord, but how do you have text blurry? It's text. It's like the actor based the rock and music is pulling the bit, right? It's vibrating. It's almost lost. Who's more inapt movie bobble and nostalgia critic. It's like nostalgia critic upgraded his technology Nostalgia critic is absolutely more competent than movie ball based on this. Like he does like green screens And there's a real pink ball by the green door Sibler and like his movie not really Nostalgia critics his skits are they practice with them. They clearly rehearse them The execution of the skits are not the problem. It's that they're not funny and they're cringe That's actually probably a good point If they had a better writer those skits might be completely tolerable tolerable because the rlm skits that are like the best ones oftentimes they just as like You know like stupid, but um, they'll be they'll have comedic timing. They'll have uh sub tax like Nostalgia critic ones are just well, we've seen there. It's not written. Well, yeah But the people that he has employed They're all they've all said things and delivered lines in ways that can totally be funny It's just what they say isn't funny I think we've if we said that this author is told a joke. We've liked at some point. Does that happen? I'm sure he has I'm certain he has I legitimately am I'm confident that he has said a legitimately funny joke Probably yeah, probably I can't remember what it is or where it was But I am confident that he has Has told funny jokes that have made us laugh They're like there are he has the capacity here's the thing. I think that Nostalgia critic definitely has the capacity to be very clever, but he can't channel that cleverness into a way that's funny We'll see him next Halloween I mean, he's he's always there. We could visit him whenever we want true Maybe maybe he'll release something controversial like, um, he'll give The next avengers a one out of ten Like I'm like Recall rags saying, okay, that was a good Nostalgia Critic joke Yeah, he can make good jokes like even when we were I actually rewatched it the other day our league of extraordinary gentleman EFAP He if you just looked at a lot of those script wise just by the words alone Some of the things he says are funny. He just says them in a very unfunny way with no Timing or I guess awareness of how to deliver them But some of the lines and concept are funny It's just that they go through a joke. There's some joke killing process like yeah, yeah, like like a tyson factory You know It's just it has to the joke has to die in the process of it getting into a final video with him And to take something like van Helsing or the league of extraordinary gentlemen and make it so lame Like damn they give you so much to work with Yeah, you know the the different beasts they are different beasts though Like whose scripts you want to listen to more and it's like bob is aware of more longer words than uh Nostalgia Critic is but Man or maybe or maybe Nostalgia Critic legitimately knows not to use them Because Nostalgia Critic's video I like covering him because there's all you always want to pay attention because he can say something Interesting even if it's bad Like he he speaks in a way that you can clearly understand you never have to try and decipher the things that he's saying for the most part You're not sitting there with this confused look on your face What's the point I've just got here by the way Huh on the screen just got No idea Just got here. Oh just got here. Oh Oh, is maybe this music is his and it's called just got here and it was Yeah, he made this music That would be hilarious if he did because it's just the kind of music I expect him to make but I don't know It's just a super generic light rock riff in the back That doesn't match him or his videos whatsoever Um So anyway, yeah The next boss will be one that production wise should probably be Worlds away from movie bob, but the script will have much more Intention I would imagine Yeah, ladies and gentlemen as has been voted by you in chat. The next will be Itop films And as you know the history of him is that Homecoming was not a spider-man film far from home made him sick so What will this one do let us find out? Yeah, so two years ago spider-man far from home broke ready. Yeah, it's glad we had that Sick heartbroken now. I'm about to go see no way home, but I have to make a yeah I almost implied we wouldn't be critical of his editing, but I always am Like we are Super he found a light Found a light to get under he brought the nice camera outside someone held it for him Bathed in light It's symbolic Dark city street Stop first Josh you say for no way home. Johnny you say for no way home. Yeah. Yeah You got a restaurant to film? Here we go. Well going to see a spider-man movie is a huge occasion So they're probably doing lots of things that day to set it up. It's like this is a main event coming I guess Hey, how you doing as much as I'd like to think my passion my style my personality is what led me to do This isn't a style.  This is so much stuff I'll stare at this brick wall and then I'll touch it and then we're doing this camera will be pink Pretending to climb the wall right doing the spider-man crawl up.  Yeah. Oh Like uh and he can't he can't settle down.  He said something along the lines of like he said he wouldn't yeah But then he did because of course he did of course he did After far from home after the constant consistent lack of hefty emotional weight the avoided. All right Well, let us begin It's the same point everyone always f***ing mates it's like because obviously we've we've covered his stuff before but like No emotional weight no consequence. No real actual legitimate Things happening when one of the things we praise homecoming for is the fact that we can finally not have to deal with catastrophic stakes we can deal with smaller scale space and time and The universe and all that um Very very like like definitively just no there's just no emotional stakes. All right. If you say so I don't know. I've always appreciated that homecoming is the first f***ing movie in the mcu that calmed down Um, because they always they only seem to ramp up Dense of empathy and sincerity the focus on being oh wow no sense of empathy or sincerity How come like when somebody makes a movie like why does he presume that john watz has no level of sincerity Like I don't know is making why have we just decided to throw him under the bus? Sounds personal. I think it is personal when it comes to high top. He's uh, he took this personal Making these movies was very personally a detact to him Being a light-hearted teen comedy with the maturity and depth of an episode of drake and josh I don't know how yeah, if you cut out the scenes where they're not doing jokes And you can make this point. Yeah The maturity and depth of drake and josh were an episode of it and it's like, all right So i'm guessing you're saying you can't draw anything meaningful out of these the first two Presumably because which feels like but again, it's easy to say that when you don't show the clips from like the big story moments Like in homecoming just way isn't a shit because of dealing Yeah, or at the end of this film when he's like doesn't even know if happy's happening Then they have the scene on the plane where he's talking about how sad he is like, I don't Yeah, if you show these clips then you can make this point. Well, yeah, I know that Um, I guess a lot of spider-man fans hate the fact that this is the thing But him mourning tony like as his mentor is like that's meaningful, but I guess we hate her It is because you don't like the meta because it's in the mcu, but that's not I don't know. It's it's a film in the mcu.  Oh no aliens are gonna conquer the blah blah and the it is weird complaints to make in the mcu that this story was too like Low stakes almost well, you almost want to have that conversation with high top, right? Well, you're like so the world exploding we admit that's high stakes low stakes are And he's probably gonna be like well, obviously categorically it's just when there's not much to lose You'd be like and so it's bad to do low stakes, right? Just categorically And you know that he'd be like No, it's he can't say that right like you can't you can't have any respect Well, I feel like it's the fundamental thing You can't really have the perspective of liking a lot of things that are really great If you take the stand that low stakes is bad because it means you're basically just regarding like all serious drama Like on television or in films stories that are just about like people in the real world Doing give you an example Yeah, citizen kane Very one of those aches and citizens kane. It's all about trying to find out what a word means Yeah, yeah, if he doesn't find out then 12 angry men the stakes are one man's life one The stakes of um, I mean the stakes are breaking bad. It's like well breaking bad. It's like a big There's like definitely affects a lot of people But it's ultimately the story of like one guy and like his family and the people who are connected to him That's it Yeah, because you can't have low stakes as a as a thing for bad If you like a lot of things that are just good content like there's no world where that makes sense It seems at this point we've been taken for granted that his life is at risk in everything that he's doing with all this stuff Like we don't even care about that anymore. That's not really stakes Marriage story is low stakes. Yeah, definitely incredibly low stakes. It's just sorting out the divorce so many Well, just so many of this the films that you would consider to be like the best films ever So many of them are just like low stakes Yeah, it's a relationship or it's someone relationship one person's life Maybe like something that affects like one town or one city You know, not like the whole world homecoming's big finale is vulture might steal a lot of iron man stuff I say a lot. It's probably not a lot You know what? Because high top also likes dead evil. Dead evil is incredibly low stakes compared to everything in the mcu It's about like one neighborhood of new york Well, and so this is the thing I could picture someone being like he's not saying it's low stakes and that's bad He's saying there's just nothing at risk And there's to be like that's just like sounds like a roundabout way of saying the same thing Yeah, what is that? Personal life like in homecoming the stakes were specifically to do with like him and the people that he knew That was what vulture said We don't have to I mean like literally no films reservoir dogs Just citizen came like being the the thing that is used as the metaphorical highest of its kind when that has extremely low stakes Then maybe maybe we've jumped the gun. Maybe that's not what he means. Well, there's basically no stakes in citizen kane It's so low. There's basically no stakes I think that he would find ways to try and avoid that being the conversation because york talks about consequences So he'd be like, well, we know nothing was at stake because of the fact that despite there being failures and sacrifices There's nothing permanent that happens, but there is in no way home. They just wasn't in far from home and homecoming Except in homecoming he the decision he makes permanently cuts off the relationship that he wanted to develop with liars That's done. Yeah, and and I think someone could be like that's just one girl and it's like, no, you can't you can't do that And also As far as he was aware at the time he had lost the connection to stark that was done And then he still committed to the course of action to try and save the day very meaningful not for any reward Well, that's that's what it's an arc like because he had one Yeah, and then comes the ultimate test of like you've you are now You can now accept the thing you've wanted since the beginning.   That's a that's that's like a point that from now on you are not in the situation that you were before You were spider-man and you had stark there as a mentor now. He's not here anymore That's a tote. It it's fundamentally different for him Yeah, and it does that not count as a change like an important change And that's what the like the whole movie was about and he's being torn down From the moment he enters the mcu like across his entire arc. He's just been torn down every time he's getting He's I mean when we talk about like mcu characters who've had to like really suffer to try and like figure out Who they are and and like how to be a hero. God damn It was constant test Even the the fnt crew agreed that he is the spider-man on film that has suffered the most now It categorically after no way easily. Yeah, he gave at least at least is that Well, it only took like three minutes We got there This rendition of a character that I have loved since I first could love well You know you love particular versions of him I now so like We all of us here. We really like movies and games and stories and things like that This still feels really not me You know, I loved before like it'd be like if I said, you know crash bandicoot I loved him as soon as I could love. It's like It really is one of those like yeah Dude, if you escape your video to proof of daredevil, you hope they were saying I have loved daredevil since I had the Capacity to level like freaking you might want to cut that. It's a little It's a lie It's not true like an adult. It's almost like post-hoc Like change because when you're a kid, you just like things that you think are cool Like I don't know. I don't know that's any more meaningful than oh, man. That's awesome. Wow. That's great That's super. Look at Simba. He's gonna go back and take back pride rock. Yay Like I don't I don't know that it's ever like as dramatic like Whatever his appreciation for spider-man has not been the same now as it's always been It's back at one point. It was cool guy in suit is jumping around beating people up Exactly and and now it's become more meaningful because you're an adult and you look back on that time fondly And also just because it's an adult you have a more developed understanding of why you like things I don't know. I guess it's it's yeah The rap thing the dude pride rock thing from Dude pride rock that's amazing. If anyone hasn't seen it. I'm almost tempted to play it, but just Why am I just looking at people reacting like the trailer? I think for the new lying king and this is this guy Yeah, it's like promotional material. You see his pride rock in the trailer. He's like, dude pride rock Oh I love pride rock is my favorite rock. Yeah, man. It's pretty good rock To put it simply peter parker in the mcu outside of civil war has never felt like peter parker to me That's meaning. Yeah, but that this like I just there's just no value in your opinions. I just I'm interested in exploring them. I just never been I've never been convinced by these arguments I know that you know that we all know it I should just shut the f*** up and did I think for a second that spider-man? No way home would change that would fix that was I hopeful a little was I assured? No, was I wrong? Kinda, but first I'd like to thank the special sponsor. Oh Okay There's a lot of raycon for him, or is it gonna be some VPN service Environmental thing I think is uh, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go with I'm Dollar Shave club. I'll go with Um The raycon he's done rake on a million times. So I might be right. Okay. All right. Um, I'm gonna go with a vpn Um, express vpn. Let's go that. All right. Were you skipper? Is it cheating if I already know what it is? Oh, well, yeah Yes I don't view you know, right outside. I've never heard of ran. I don't think I've never heard of ran I know that they are birds That's like a how we're adding ran into the known ads. 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Do they have some complaints?  Sorry whales are an important part of my life Yeah, I love whales ever since I could love Ever since I could love I love the whales Whales, no, he'd say like whales taught him how to love Whale He was no, no, he's got to go further. He was raised by whales Keep going. I want to do a good dealt thing. All right. Um, you know the uh, you know, what is um, what How are nebraskan crop? No, no, no, I got it now. How come the braskan crop dusters are like actors in movies? Uh, how how because they both rely on their props Oh my god.   You're okay. It's okay. You're safe now You can sign up using my code anti Bombardment defense system slash high top To save 10% off of your annual subscription to the anti the personal anti meteorite bombardment system Thank you for sponsoring this video. They make great stuff and I actually use this service I never leave home without my vpn for asteroids Yeah, exactly. You want to you want to get access to asteroids from from england You want to watch those asteroids? No problem. Just switch over to the I do this all the time to watch uh the asteroids on What's a topical asteroid that people are talking about right now? So it's the squid game asteroid. Yes, that's it Wait, where do I go if I want to help fight these asteroids?  It would be like a membership to an asteroid defense fund Right. Yeah, your money every month goes to that asteroid defense fund Yes, uh, like it's a big fund and um, and then you know And also I guess maybe like part of the ad is to say like look his famous person Who's also part of the asteroid club?   Absolutely worthless unlike these this celebrity You know who they are that means they're better than you so Make sure to sign up to this club. Yeah, she's been a driver for six months now Greta tell us your story and she tells about how she has been hit by asteroids and all that sort of thing And it's it's really great before before this was existed Before this service existed. I counted fear every single day worried that an asteroid was Mini mini miniature asteroid would go through the atmosphere and shoot through my head and kill me I'm so worried about that before but now I found this server. Yeah asteroid defenses has got my back I actually use it. I you know, this is a service. I really actually genuinely truly like And what that implies about anything else I've ever said, uh, You know as a sponsorship that's uh, shut up go away You know in 1984 a woman was hit by an asteroid that like came through the house and hit her Well, that's what that's what I mean, man. It's it's a real like thing that could possibly happen Yeah Here I went and got some pictures of it because she didn't she wasn't a subscriber But this was before then so like it came through the house Man, right like hit the house went through and it caught her on the side And legitimately hit her she was hit by an asteroid Man what a uh, only she clicked the link in the description If only yeah, if only she entered in the Yeah, if only she put in the referral code That was pretty crazy though imagine just like you just at home one day Just the whole three roof is a rock from space Just flies through the roof That the guy on the left looks like william shatner The guy on the left does look a bit like have you got everything you need mues like it's Yeah, what are you doing practically writing up what it's gonna be in the script, but uh I expect a car ride in credit for that from all of you Uh, yeah, I mean, I guess all of us contributed in some way. I'll just say e-fab Okay, all right, okay, okay All right, so anyway The threat of climate change has been around longer than I have but it's something we don't see happening in We haven't been around for that long Yeah This is not dude, hasn't this been going on since like longer than every human who's ever been alive We think of destruction for decades now Oh, well, no, I just mean that like isn't it just like the industrial revolution Isn't that like when we started admitting so like everybody who's alive now It's a really weird way to categorize it Well, it's too easy to ignore but ren has an answer for that Ren is a website where you can calculate your carbon footprint then off. Oh, that sounds like fun. Sorry Yes, it sounds great. That sounds like a really great use of my time I'm pretty sure that I there was a curse gazax video where they talked about that like the carbon footprint was actually a thing that like BP came up with It's like a concept because it puts the onus on you when you have very little powers and individual to do anything That if you like stopped emitting for the rest of your life that it would just be like It would be like nothing like that. That's not that's not what it takes But let's see what the service is Anyway What is the service said it by funding objects that plant trees protect rainforest and start doing something about the climate crisis It's easy Sorry, I actually I'm like getting a little annoyed now because like this is an ad Yes Like I paid to do this and I feel like this company is just trying to monetize your Maybe maybe the company is like really good and it's doing really cool stuff. I guess it's more just yeah You're talking about like saving the world, but you got paid for this like you're so awkward when you think about it The ad The ad is putting the onus on all of us as individuals and how important and ethical this is and how it's the right thing to do and that To be fair He's he's you know, he's he's like I'm I'm doing the right thing. You should be too. It's like you're getting paid like How awkward does that feel? It does feel a little weird, you know Like if I if I end a video said all right guys, um, so I the sponsor for today's video is logitech, right? I've been using logitech products for a long time and they're great and they're awesome They have all kinds of different quality ranges and price ranges and da da da And I've been using them for ages and I really like it and they sponsor this video and I these you know Like there's this element of I'm doing this for moral reasons I'm doing this because it's a product that I like and I want to recommend to you and also I'm getting paid for it So there's like a like like understanding between me and the audience We're like, yeah, I get money you get good stuff and never throw it you that sort of thing This breaches that and goes into its own Sort of like it gets into it's a matter of I don't know how I feel about the idea of being paid to promote charity If it was odd Yeah, there's something something there well What would be like if I took an ad to sponsor like I don't know like a like salvation army or something if it was odd like I'm doing the ad of like, hey this You're you're being paid And then you're like talking about it from like a moral perspective of like Ah, now I can help the planet like as if there weren't any options available beforehand, you know Because yeah, someone said it's for a good cause and it's like yeah, but they only did it because they were paid That's what makes it so awkward money Because this is the thing is like how many people out there don't accept any sponsorships But will promote what they believe are important or good products be important. Well, yeah, like if somebody You know like if if somebody promotes something that they think is a good cause and they've never been paid to do it It's like doesn't that not feel like there's an element there of like man You've like gone out of your way to basically try and advance a cause that you believe in that's really cool And yeah You know because we recommend stuff randomly like uh if services work well or don't but um You never have to catch us there and we actually use this one. Well, this one's actually moral Don't tell me that in don't tell me in this video that they paid you money for that You're doing it because you had an existential crisis Yeah Why Um I'm supposed to be clear on this because of course like there are people who work for charities to get paid And like charities are going to pay money to like keep their services operational things like that I feel like there's got to be a distinction between that no one like I I think I think there's specifically like the way that it's being presented to me Is the thing that's rubbing me the wrong way not not like the principle of somebody making money from a charitable cause We've seen a lot of high top videos. I don't think I've ever heard him talk about climate before This is the first time You know, I call me cynical But I feel like he's only telling me about this because someone paid him to not because he cares about it That's ingenious Well, maybe every video has this in it, right? Yeah, he changed a new leaf from now. I'm just gonna I hope to hear updates on the planted trees high top and every video going forward That would be nice Yeah, I mean about damn time for us to take some damn responsibility and account. See how compelling he's trying to be What is that?  What what is he saying here? I think he's saying it's about damn time. We take responsibility prices It's easy Necessary and about damn time for us to take some damn responsibility and accountability for the planet We call home just by answering a few questions about your lifestyle You can find out your carbon footprint and figure out how you can reduce it. No human being can fully reduce their carbon Not like individuals have very little capacity.  What do you mean? But what? What that can't no that can't be right? What?  You're like, thank you. Would you like to subscribe to the hyatt is that you're like, no Oh, what a friend What if they do that thing where they send you a picture of a tree and they want you to sponsor the tree?   I owe the tree do it You said it was my tree I paid for this tree I went jimmy to burn. I want jimmy to provide heat for the local creatures in the area I know that when jimmy burns and his ashes are sprinkled throughout the forest it enriches the soil And another tree can grow in jimmy's plate. It's all a cycle Eventually, this will give me weight So the the gist of this service is essentially that you have a monthly subscription that funds like charitable causes to like Climate change, right? That's like the service. I thought I thought I was like a tracking app like a tractor carbon footprint Just like show you how much You like produce or something let's let's uh Right, uh, so yeah, so apparently Calculate and offset your carbon footprint with a monthly subscription To figure out how much co2 you admit Offset it with a monthly subscription with a mix of climate projects and then every month you get updates on like what that's being funded for right So i'm gonna chat said who wins if I sponsor jimmy and someone else sponsors kevin the lumberjack Damn, you know like I sponsor kevin to take down as many trees as possible every day Companies are competing for sponsorships You have a company that's just a guy who says I cut down trees. I just cut them down One tree per patron. So let's get it going guys freeze All I wanted trees down trees But I need I need sponsors so that I could devote my life and time to You know cutting down trees trees.   That's what I do And I just like the idea that he doesn't vary inefficiently with an axe like he doesn't have big industrial equipment He just goes into the amazon rainforest with an axe Chopping down every day just goes on to the next tree and chops it down You'll receive weekly updates on how well he's done cutting it down and then what he used the logs for All right, sweet Do you think high top would do a deforestation ad?   I don't know. It just it would be interesting to see what happens Yeah, like you're trying you're funding some terrorist organization And you uh, you just dress it up to them.  It's almost like it's been done for cyanide by accident by youtubers Wait, what on string cyanide? It's uh, it's a great little service cyanide Well, uh, they I've heard of something similar. They've done it with dihydrogen monoxide They'll go around on the street with like a clipboard and everything and they'll try to get people to raise awareness to stop The to just to raise awareness about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide And they say oh it kills people every year and it can it causes x amount of damage And you know flooding and things of that nature all the all this money that the infrastructure damage We need to do something about dihydrogen monoxide.  I hydrogen monoxide is just water water Yeah, so yeah, it's it's all about how you sell it and dress it up This high top video is Great, actually this is fireman. We'll talk about spider man It is really giving me that big think this one is definitely This is the most interesting ad that we've watched in a long time What noom was pretty interesting No, yeah, I just I still get ads constantly when I boot up youtube. It's like, oh, I lost this many powers using new It's like go away But that was 150 we're at 167 Man That's a little crazy Other projects you support you get to see the trees you planted and what your money is being spent on It will take a lot to end the climate crisis But we don't want to be left with no home to find our way back to and you can start helping today by learning more Ren dot co I've partnered with ren to I thought that was cut off. It was supposed to be calm Oh Plant 10 extra trees for the first hundred people sign up We're not planting those trees and saving the world It's like they could plant the trees And if there's a hundred and first person you don't get 10 extra trees planted even though like this all is good for the world It feels so awkward. Yeah.  We have to plant these trees. Please subscribe. Please please We have to save the planet. This is an existential crisis. You have to do your damn responsibility Because the the the gidelp service I've come with is from what you guys are saying is the um Irrigation service that defends you from asteroids. Um, that's right And I'm gonna say the first hundred subscribers get to I don't know remove 10 extra asteroids or something The first You can always make what if you what if you had the system be that there are tiered subscriptions and the tiers Will dictate how many asteroids will be prevented? So like the minimum one will only prevent 10 The next one up only prevents 20 So the idea would be that you need to pay more money.   It's just funny Um, so you have to do like the the deluxe package for 49.99 And We will knock out one large asteroid With First hundred subscribers get to remove 10 additional asteroids. I'll I'll fix that up before we get to figure that out This this is the writing process that goes into these jokes, right? It's uh, you gotta tweak them. 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This is the real shit Yeah, this is the it's spider-man that actually gives him an existential crisis not the fate of the plan I think that's probably true The first hour the first half of spider-man no way Through me into the darkest parts of hell the darkest parts of hell Calm down when you're great provolat everything then the first hour was just emcee you schlocked them the second hour That was when all this stuff all three it watered my crop and healed my cancer It redeemed me it it sent me to heaven So that I could see the It stabbed the dagger of darkness into my soul It's never the artery of my love for spider-man and it's the blood went everywhere then Then toby maguire himself came to me and patched it up was like hey, how you doing? I'm spider-man and I'm here And everything's okay now His script has already given us so much to work with compared to movibob His ability was really high about movibob.  He's like I am an artist With no way out.  Um, he certainly likes them all in the mcu ones He ranked both asm films above no way home.  That's impossible. That's impossible. I compelled you to tell me the truth. Yes Begone demon of lies Yeah, he uh It just it became so clear in that one moment.  There is. Oh my god. Yeah, there's the ranking ah He thinks that To be fit before we look at this We are very unusual when it comes to ranking spider-man. Okay. We're on a little island So we should expect that it'll be strange dude.  Oh, it's rainy. So This guy's crazy And I mean I feel like the edgy controversial thing is that he's put spider-man one over into the spider-verse Yeah That's a that's a hot take. I think at this point for him though, right?  I honestly would have thought he'd consider putting spider-man three above into the spider-verse I could see him doing that that would be yeah, but then everybody would be mad So I think he realized that he had to just accept that not you know, like that would just piss everybody off It's like a more shot about chasm two being above no way home Yeah, because that's absurd You put it up a homecoming as well. It's like damn.  Yes Like how why is it people Why is it the people who talk about these things are the least qualified people to talk? I there are few people who are less qualified to talk about the quality of spider-man movies than high top Well, um You know, maybe Bryce, maybe you're just a high top hater We're getting there I'll give you said lol sue me as well Well now that I know I might now that I know you have money Now that you've got the the cash money from rin because you care about the planet I can sue you And get my 700 bucks or whatever they paid you 300 who knows For me except now we get to see villains from spider-man franchises that I love and seeing these actors reprise their roles Is goose bump inducing when ox shows up when you hear that elfman theme slowly creep in when the echo of the goblin laugh Hits those eardrums when the audience gasps Collectively getting a cold shiver sent down their spine. It's like nothing else until you if you're unfortunately Like me quickly realize that john watz and screenwriters eric somers and chris mckenna working with wilm defo's norman osborn And melino's auto octavius within the mcu's established tone is like trying to eat a gourmet meal in the stall of the kfc bathroom Still taste. Yeah. This is what I mean. How why does he feel so comfortable shitting on the creative vision of those guys? I don't get it. I don't really It is so awkward to me that like to take the stance of like because I bet you that's probably the reason why he likes Tasm right is because it's like ah see that was uh Webb's like creative vision and that he had a vision but like here He just can't see it like there's no possibility that there could be any Like as if it's not possible that all of those guys sat in a room and were really passionately trying to figure out What story they wanted to tell you I think for some reason we just don't care about their The possibility that they had a vision If it was came up to him personally and said this was my vision and it's exactly how I've always wanted it High top would tell him like it's not man. This isn't your vision You've been I don't just feel so awkward Absolutely, it's like dude's made like three films Like he's made the films you have it and how and how can he say that the like Because you because spider-man one in particular is really campy and goofy Yeah, but he loves that. Yeah, but so the MCU tone which is often Portrait as being too jokie I guess that's a different I think he would assume that it's it's uh formulaic in a way that Because I mean, I feel like there's like no getting around the fact that like the spider-man Rami films are like definitely got like a Rami There's a style to those films. Yeah Yeah, there's a style absolutely and whereas like Marvel movies tend to have more of a But I wonder if it's a situation where it's like is it just the fact that the films have similar like cinematography that's throwing you off Like is that actually what it is you saw that video That pointed out how they all use the same camera and like the color grading is really similar And that's like totally thrown off the idea that there is Because how do you how do you explain right off my style is having my shots match? Well, I mean is that Is there something necessarily wrong with trying to have some level of uh consistency in terms of um The way that the films look or do we want to or you know Conversely, do we want to emphasize that these are all made by like different people and they they have different like shot composition I I guess it's just I don't I don't know how he can so easily just shit On something that was the creative vision of somebody it has to be in some way at at least Um, but also maintain the personality of like creative vision guys and like creators doing their thing and making stuff That's cool and not shitting on it. Yeah, that's like that's me. That's my style You know if it was really awkward Not all styles don't like these vibrant and crazy and wild and I mean I'm just doing one further like Like vulture there is there is an idea there in terms of having vultures suit and like the way that it's been constructed And how he looks and like the way that he's scary is different from Because in the comics he's kind of like a bit goofy, right? Like vultures look kind of goofy um adapted very Having it be very industrial and like Cobbled together and like the way that and then and then it's just like the mysterious like sequence You know like the whole mysterious sequence is like really visually Yeah, but so is a lot of stuff in the ramy films Like a lot of the really cool shots in the ramy films were like 100 cgr Like the tracking shots when they're like falling down and fighting each other Those are really cool shots, but they're CGI. There's nothing wrong with that That's different Yeah For reasons that somebody definitely be elaborated on i'm sure by the way I think i saw someone in chat say that the ramy spider-man films aren't goofy I don't know if you've rewatched those films like lightly, but there is There is big goof and i'll like it. I really like those films They there is a good feel of it though They are down. Am I like is he flies around?  Yeah Yeah Absolutely goofy people who say they aren't don't remember Working with willem de foe's norman osborne and melino's auto octavius within the mcu's established tone Is like trying to eat a gourmet meal in the stall of the kfc bathroom It still tastes great. It still hits the spot. Don't get me wrong.  You get goose bumps when you eat? No, no, no you you misunderstood rags. You're saying a gourmet food out of a kfc bathroom store Oh, okay. Okay. I got you. I got you. I got you Which um, it's interesting because like until he elaborates further. I could just my response would just be like So you're saying the food's good Like if so, it's like, yeah the location. I'd be like, okay, but the food's good I need to be more specific. The food is the film not the location.  Whatever is the film good Yeah, like the suicide squad. I mean that that film's got a good film in a shitty universe Horrifically bad location It covers up the human experiment a processed chicken It's almost like taking these legends and shoving them into happy Logan's apartment Was never going to be the best way to serve and service these characters I don't know that this film was arguing. This is the best way to service the green goblin and dark arc I think they were focusing on someone else At the same time. I don't know that they handled it badly at all with both of them In fact dark arc, they didn't really well with dark arc But I was about to say like my brain was almost like well, why are you saying that as if green goblin was like No, green goblin was done really well too. So I I don't know It comes off as a lose lose though Because is he asking that it should have been more like fan service a but then he would have complained about it Well, I guess he labeled happy's apartment as this critique and I'm like hi top You're the guy who should be saying Stuff like the idea of green goblin dark arc being in happy's apartment. That doesn't sound like it would work But it could be great, right?  If it was really weird Green goblin and dark arc got whole movies. Of course, they're gonna be more flashed out or more explored in those movies They're a part of yeah, no, I know five of the villains and three other heroes Some that I find really odd is that it feels like we've reached this strange point We're like people don't want spider-man to be like part of the marvel stuff And and and not specifically speaking to like emcee's quality right now But like the idea of spider-man being part of the marvel stuff is like annoying Even though spider-man is a marvel character and arguably like the marvel character. Yeah, it's weird if it was like we I'm pretty sure everybody was happy that spider-man was going to be integrated into the emcee There was nobody who's like nah, you know what I prefer him on his own like absolutely no connection Oh, well, I mean people absolutely really like this movie I guess it's the idea of like spider-man being in the emcee Like everybody was incredibly excited for like civil war because of spider-man becoming a part of the emcee People don't want him in now because the emcee is like not good anymore Wow, I mean we're pretty same on that.  I love ever again. That's At this point I want him to yeah Let's go away You know why he's okay is taking characters crafted conceived almost 20 years ago by a director at the height of his career A director whose style personality heart and soul is felt in every frame every blink every touch And throwing them into the marvel machine throwing them even in spider-man 3 spider-man 2 Is like you're just saying that but imagine taking this these these sony products The the rights the film that sony bought the rights to because they just wanted to make some money And throw it into this universe filled with all these passionate creators collaborating to you can just say these things It doesn't like mean anything though. Yeah to clarify. I feel like someone would be like hey You just did the room. I'm gonna misinterpret that the point for you making there is that you can frame it However, you want the the the tazen films were made for money alone and they were cancelled because they were making enough They just hung on to the ip Meanwhile, someone like john waltz a true creative an author brings in A lot writing with others on the talent and creates the What is the best tazen film out of the three iterations of andrew's performances? You like see clearly that the author is on what's not on web This is all There's nothing of substance here I'm sure you'll get there eventually Also No promises No promises The height of his career a director whose style personality heart and soul is felt in every frame every Blink every touch and throwing them into the marvel machine throwing them into the third mcu spider-man It's just because it's marvel. That's all it's just in the mcu Yeah, it's just because it's the mcu because it's in which is really funny because his complaints about the mcu We're going to be different from ours because we don't like the mcu that much either like at the moment Yeah, but we have like His is going to be strictly because it is like the most popular thing Like it's hard not to reach the point of is this just contrarianism But you don't like color grade doesn't pop the lighting isn't good enough the shots and the angles and the composition They're not good and what about the writing right? convince us of those No, uh, because I I always find those conversations end up I can just make a reverse arguments pretty easily And then they get stunted because they're like wait what the fuck what do I do with this? You know when they say like I corrected blah blah blah to make it all pop better and then a bunch of people on twitter are like this is better This is better when the one person goes I prefer it grounded gg. It's over Right exactly. Yeah, it's over. What do you do now? And it's like well, but I Superheroes are supposed to be grounded. They're not even real. You're like, oh my god What do you mean that's supposed to be it's a creative vision and then john watt says yeah, it was Yeah, my creative vision is that superheroes are grounded.  It's gonna be major that there's a lot of films Should mean it should never work Yeah, I think that's what challenges on seven you have to deal with These words have weight my dude you spider-man tale film during a pandemic should never work and for me It should There are just things you have to take care of you have to do different things on set. Fuck. Yeah You know like if 12 angry men was done during a pandemic. I could believe that Yeah Well, what about a film that was made during the spanish Like You know those films exist. She's like matter. I don't work Time it did not work for me. The first half of no way home was everything. I feared reymie. Me. It's so pretentious Yeah I'm just don't you dare. I'll do something to my side. This is my self line. It was great Yeah, call back stark tech controlling ox arms a lizard and nano machines and my dude Yeah, what you're just labeling thing. What's the problem explain the problem? He doesn't like that stark tech control of the character. He doesn't like that I really hate that one because I saw it when the trailer came out. It was like electros got stark tech And it's like what do you mean?    He would have loved it even if it was exactly the same Actro who act very differently from what we once saw. Yeah So about that He's a lot less cringe if that's what you mean I'd be curious what his justification is on that. I'd like to hear what he believes elect like Sounds like he thinks electro was assassinated at least in character writing Just because he was clearly they allowed jayme fox to bring in his own charisma this time instead of blocking it out completely And that was just a good decision excellent decision But you know at least itself aware about it this swing around Peter parker rather than deal with his own problems immediately thinks to run to an avenger for help But this time he he did try to deal with it. What do you mean? He did try to he spent like a year trying to live with it until the consequences became Significant for the people around him and then he made the decision And like run away from his problems in both of the films He runs towards his problems because that's what heroes do and he um He tries to get a solution to the problem and it wasn't for his sake It was for other people's sake. Yeah more so than his I guess I just find it annoying like instead of dealing with the problem.   Yeah, like clearly there was a lot of life to I'm flash wrote a book He didn't write that in a week like that took some time to write and then get published and everything Maybe he writes it Rather than deal with his own problems immediately thinks to run to an avenger for help but this time he suffers immediately after a year But this time he suffers the consequences Then again, I guess to be clear It might not be a year because of like but it's some months like it's not it's not immediately It's not a minute at a time. And the important part is it's not for his sake Yep Been sorely missing peter parker rather than confront the mit assistant vice chancellor Indirectly puts the entire fate of reality at risk peter parker rather I mean, it's it's it's not like he was afraid or something He said it's as simple as failing to understand that that was a possibility But I think it's fair like when you get a letter saying you've been denied I don't think you think I should appeal to the vice chancellor You just assume I've been denied Hence him being like, oh, I guess I could try that if that's a thing you can do Then have his mission based in empathy We'd rather get rid of these villains these victims as soon as possible so we can focus on what's really important He doesn't know anything about them. Well, yeah, that's not a problem At that point.  Yeah Oh man, that's just you're just wrong high top like that's just incorrect Like saying yeah, he wants to get him back and get on with his life It's like like anybody would in this scenario literally anybody.  You want them to go back to their worlds And dr. Friends is telling you you need to and he is the source for support. Well, no, it's not that these things must remain As soon as possible so we can focus on what's really important get in his girlfriend and best friend into college It's as if the story is important to him. That is important to him. Yes. I think he's he's saying that actually Um, is he saying that?  I like how we just forget that there was a period of time I think influence war nailed it He dubbed him an avenger because he is one you can't you can't choose to be one at that point You are one you are you are acting on the behalf of the world with a bunch of superheroes called the event You made the decision to do that. He saw a spaceship and is like, oh, I probably should help with that We did this in um goes and helps page of ultron if you go out there. You're an avenger Yeah, that's the sound it's avenger is not like a team with a membership like plan, you know Like that's not if if you are there you're an avenger. That's just how it works The avengers are not like quib gift. No, the reason why he got the iron spider suit was because he wouldn't someone's pointed out He died I love to use this as an example of him regressing what it's like. He would have been suffocated gave him the suit and then tried to parachute him back to earth But he shot to get back on the ship to help out Because that's I love the idea that high top would have walked up to him at that point been like Hey, you're regressing stop trying to stop at the end of the world I I do love the idea of like hey fighting aliens.  And happened just at the right time to bring him into conflict with the man who killed his dad who fell Who was running? Well, no his uncle and fell into a sand experiment that turned him into a sand monster And then that didn't kill him. He lived I concede this this element is dumb. I just do not concede that it makes the whole film not peter parka's story or some shit This is like hang on Because if we're what because if we're just going to be able to nullify the whole movie based on one thing Then there are no good spider-man movies. Yeah, then um That's not a standard that you are going to you are going to be willing to It's going to be very hot but it'd be any good films at all at that point exactly if Usually the film has a couple of problems Yeah, one bad thing can't just nullify the the whole movie.  It's a little nice spectrum Someone's got a quote where he says I had a father his name was I think it's supposed to be bad No, I had a father his name was uncle bad I had a father his name was uncle then His name was grandpa My classmate a redundancy of him constantly trying to it's not redundant And I'm so sorry so many people don't understand like this particular thing or at least some people don't that um It wasn't for the rewards and that's how he sees this moment is this is your trophy. Look at it. Take it Meanwhile, infinity warriors. No, we're actually in the middle of a fight.   It's weird. It's a it's a weird argument I don't really care to entertain that much. I'm just like, you don't like the suit. Okay. I like the suit No, let's talk about someone else and the suit's gone now. So He barely uses it. It's true. Yeah, he's at the beginning of far from home. He bit like And then yeah, I'm against destroyed. Yeah, well, and I guess a little bit of the war people would argue, but Yeah I got two-thirds of infinity where I guess Was it no, not everyone loved it.  It's all about his Irresponsible uh decisions That works for you not everyone loved it get over it. Okay You didn't say everyone it wasn't supposed to be literal.  I'm really sorry. You're right You're right. I was wrong. I'm really sorry. I screwed it up when I said everybody I meant not everybody and I should have made that clearer. I'm really sorry Okay, you're totally right and I'm wrong Did you know did you know that fun fact whenever when anyone ever says everybody they never mean everybody Everybody there's some life advice for you You pointed out When it was just me, you're right. It was just me. I'm the only person in the world who liked that suit I'm the I'm the only person.  Please leave Yeah, I don't know if you guys knew this but fringy. I actually I told I I told I know I told you fringy that I wouldn't tell anyone but I'm gonna Fringy actually admitted to us that he's a hard solipsist He thinks that he's actually the only mind In the entirety of the cosmos and all the rest of us We are we're actually thinking of his imagination that he has conjured up I'm like in that little pod overfets and and this is just It's all Everything revolves around me It's all me and everybody has the same perspective that And I can't fathom that anybody would ever disagree with me I like so much about me today. I'm learning so much about me And I'm thank you for pointing out that not everybody not literally everybody like the iron spider suit, right? I've learned a lot today. I really appreciate He's teaching himself a lot about himself Yeah You guys are helping me We are we are fringies han solo better every day. I'm trying to do better. All right Fringy I for you forgive you. So was it I dig the iron spider suit touch grass All right, like that's just two people. Okay, that doesn't change the fact that I was wrong. I'm sorry It's as if the filmmakers realized that they needed a do-over with mcu spider-man not a do-over No, definitely do over Absolutely, it's a continuation He's he's very much consistently characterized.  I gotta separate it from those other two stanky films. Yeah, I can't give it credit That's like giving it a point and it's not on my team and I can't do that And a soft core back to basics reboot. It's as if no, he was actually going toward getting to what you perceive is his basics um Because every hero we see Uh in their primes like they had to get there somehow and they were younger at one point Uh, maybe you don't want to see that story and that's totally fine But um, that's just that's just to say that it's a fucking Reboot because it's more so closer now to the way that like if someone said my favorite iron man is the one we're like the Is it extremis where he has That's whatever and so it's like watching i-man one.  They could have used that to get into extremis But no, they didn't Then we get all the way to infinity war and they're like, okay. This is almost we're almost there We've almost gotten to my iron man And let's say endgame didn't end with him dying But rather almost dying and he has to use experimental iron man tech to Combine his blood with metal or some bullshit and they're like finally we've got iron man I just be like, okay I guess it's just When you have a character with such an expensive history, you know Like people are gonna have different ideas of what it means Absolutely, um or what they want and that's okay.   He only does is make mistakes. Look at ultron I was recently like I mean What you're saying isn't necessarily false, but like what's the problem? Yeah, iron man lunes the same lesson over and over again That's something they say about um spider-man is he learned the same lesson in home coming far from home and no way home Which drives me nuts I don't know if that'll turn up in this video We shall see If they realized that spider-man no way home could actually be the way to get spider-man back home And i'm here for it man genuinely.  He's um, he's here for the last 10 minutes of no way home He wasn't here for anything else Except maybe the rainy bits There was no interesting seeing the story that they were gonna tell No, yeah If someone had pitched it to him before it's like we want to tell the story of how a little boy Who's growing up in the world of the mcu becomes spider-man you probably be like, um I'd rather see and be spider-man The film didn't look like it was shot over a zoom caller in kevin feige's basement I get this was made during the time of a pandemic I don't know It doesn't like the shots Okay, this is another one of those times It's just like we blink it where i'm like go look at your old favorite movies A lot of them will have the shots that you're talking about but you just don't talk about them because you don't want to talk about them Oh, I wasn't in i wasn't in toby maguire's dingy apartment.   Oh, yeah, because they would say oh, yeah We took all this time and effort to make sure that the color grading was you know Nice balance nothing was too vibrant nothing was too dull We had to make sure everything of course was in focus with decent depth of field where it was necessary And all of this shit that we we put a lot of time and effort to making this film Look good because this film does look good I'm confused guys because I just screenshoted this this right here And then I put contrast up by 50 in photoshop and then I posted on the internet everyone said it looked better So I don't understand Checkmate because if the people on twitter said it then it must not be true During the time of a pandemic But I found no way home to be 80 percent of the time hideously ugly with no tangible Oh god, you're referencing this song as the hideously ugly one.  You're wrong This was amazing 80 percent of this movie was so when an actual ugly movie comes out like army of the dead You know like the yeah How is 80 percent of this movie hideously? That's the thing when everything is hyperbole that you say it just devalues all your statements It was interesting shot like ramy so he doesn't like it Well, you know, and you know what that is 110 000 true with the example he just showed which Just give me a second. I'm totally not stalling right now in order to get you know what while i'm stalling You guys sure enough if you were stalling I feel like we would know So You may very well be aware of this anyway, but i'll show you I know that low. Yeah, we'll be aware of this Let's do it show it give it to me. So, um, yeah, I'm just just clicking away getting exactly what I need But Yeah, no, it's good that you're taking your time and getting it all that setup because you know There's been a lot of build up being sold on this idea of what's to come I want to be able to I want to see your your creative vision. Hi tough would appreciate that. This is And creative is are not made in a in a minute. They're made in many minutes often consecutive especially on Let us for a moment. We'll just have to yeah, there we go Excellent. I've got it now.    This was made during the time ignore high top for a second I'm of a pandemic. Oh, gladly.   Well, and by the way, I like the ramy movies Everyone calm down because it feels like we're more than welcome to absolutely shit on Watch his work and compare it positively compared to ramy positively I'm just making this comparison. Okay.  Yes, that's another thing That's so bizarre, but the shot. It's not a good shot. This is clearly this. No, but you see it's good. You know, that's charm It's charm. Yeah Prop is it is goofy This is bad Clearly worse than the no way home. It's so obviously worse Looking spot of any a moving And he's a mannequin. It's really funny to think about but yeah, I'm sorry like this is worse Uh, right. I'd be surprised if high top said it would better But maybe he would So, uh, I've never I've never inspected ramy. Sorry. Okay. Wait. Wait. Wait. So someone said, uh Can we agree 2021 is more advanced than 2002? So that was a choice made to have a really like intense fast Like well a scary amusement park. Oh, let's go more base. Let's go more basal than that. Okay. Yeah, go for it All right. What was it about 2000 and what to do? Yeah What was it about 2002 that required them to use a prop and have her hair blowing the wrong way? I was gonna say that's the obvious response. They had they had the capacity to film it They didn't from the get go. This is a this is a shockingly malformed Little thought we're doing here And it feels to me Like a little bit of bias It could be it.  I have not thoroughly inspected Everything from all these movies because I don't do this the way that high top does I'm much more invested in the writing um But the idea that no way home doesn't have like anything in it camera wise or Color whatever the fuck he wants to categorize the whole thing as it's just like I think that's bullshit I think there's plenty we can complement Time of a pandemic, but I found no way home to be 80 of the time hideously ugly with no tangible sense of space or reality No tangible sense of space or reality Now, are you specifically referring to the mirror dimension because I wonder if in your high top You are specifically referring to the place that's the goofy gonzo mirror realm That is not supposed to have a normal sense of space and time and you are applying the entire film It just feels because like this is obviously like there's CGI here in this shot like this You know there's there's clearly stuff going on in the back, but then what about all the other scenes that are in just like regular places Like in the apartment Or Why I just there are plenty of blue screens I I guess but like there are plenty of scenes that don't have that like if you show this scene sure But what about like other ones? Yeah, what about uh, uh, Peter's apartment. What about happy's apartment? Yeah double on the apartments here. What about when they're in the rubble, you know things of that nature Silly ugly with no tangible sense of space or reality a lot of Yeah, well, especially with the visual. It's like, oh, I can help you out high top There's a staircase in the sanctum sanctorum And I'm not strange just going up it. They are there at the bottom of it and they are looking up at him Yeah, it's pretty I got really clear Yeah, we we we started with an establishing shot when they entered it. It's a really easy to understand space Like this should sorry like great Handle it because it's in the mcu It feels so just unfair when people do stuff like that. I'm just like, what do you you think you're saying stuff? You on Not even at all. Uh-huh or reality a lot of singles characters fantastic actors isolated and this this film is like Or this video. Did you want them to actually film at the Statue of Liberty?  Yeah, it's the thing This film is just the ultimate for people that already agree with me video. Yeah. Oh, definitely This video is not convincing it. There's no arguments here. You're not convincing me. I'm assuming we'll get to the writing at some point Hit in front of a green screen interacting with nothing edited clearly. He's interacting with something Plinket stuff here and it's oh boy careful. Yeah, we're just like this process To acknowledge that it was shot in a pandemic Which may well have meant that it was harder for them to shoot on location and then to shit on them for that He was real awkward. Yeah, he's already acknowledged the pandemic too, but then he's just like, oh well Yeah Is this a is this an accidental Like what is this in an indirect way? sort of poo-pooing on the actors for their inability to Perform their tasks Well, because that's the thing I think that we've been fucked by Plinket unfortunately And I don't blame Plinket exclusively for this But when he said Ewan McGregor was acting on literally just an entire room of green And that it comes through in this performance because he doesn't react to certain things at certain times I think that's completely fair. But now people have evolved that into If they find out that's the case they will use it against the film whether or not they noticed anything And that that's that's not right. Uh, there are some actors who really can nail it Even if there's nothing in front of them at all Well, what is a stage performance if not in a lot of cases relying on your imagination to fill in the blanks? Exactly Depending on the variety of the stage like some stage productions have massive amounts of props and backgrounds and stuff But sometimes it's incredibly minimal Yeah, absolutely Um, I'm just looking for something right quick. If you want me to just want to talk about anything I just Yeah, um part of what he's talking about Fringy, what's on your mind? Uh, nothing. I've just been reeling over how wrong I am I know I'm just I'm still trying to figure out ways to move forward So high top has the existential dread of of course the planet burning to a crisp again I have the existential dread of nobody exists but me That's uh, that's that's a scary thought to have but uh, well, if you ever need you to help well, you know what? um, we're actually I uh, this might not be the opportunity because it looks like more was trying to set something up But I got some fan art That uh, that's really cool Well, I mean we yeah, I mean even if I mean you could show us so we can go Oh, and then chat will go. Oh, you have to post it for us now. We have to see it's not fair. It's not fair. What is this tyranny? Oh, it's not it's not oh files are too powerful Oh m