We're doing a thing today now. We're gonna check out some of our favorites One two BED ELLE! What was the game game? How did it make you feel? Sexual harassment What? Sexual harassment Whoa!  Digideas?  How did it make you feel? Sexual harassment What? Sexual harassment Whoa! They're kind of watching movies from You become a mean fadon We're the worst channel ever Is this guy supposed to be Alfred?  What? Sexual harassment Whoa! They're kind of watching movies from You become a mean fadon We had like seven, now we're down to four Hello everyone, welcome to part two of Every frame of Paul's episode 120 million hour stream This is what hour 12 ish We welcome Mr. Wolf How you doing there sir? I'm doing pretty good Excellente Mr. Fringy, always nice to see you Hello And of course Down with thrust, how are you sir? How was your day? It was good And congratulations on the hundredth Episode Yeah man On the podcast It's been crazy because they're all Like a million hours long each I wonder when you sleep Also, as some may have already noticed Rags is mysteriously missing Any second he may be back Worst case scenario he fell asleep Best case scenario he'll be Eddie will He wakes up eight hours later Sorry what I missed, what's up? See the good part of that though Is that he can be the hype man While I slowly staggered fall asleep In the background, so it'll be great Right But yeah, we don't need to We're not really going to be covering anything For a little bit We're just going to have a nice little chat You know, chill out Ask all of the questions Because I mean after those Especially after those cookin' videos You cool McCullin, you tone Is that right?  That and If you like hunt a deer You can find like a Someone to take your animal too And they'll actually break it down Uh huh They don't actually sell commercialized meat They'll just you know break down your shit for you Yeah I can imagine Like I'm in Arkansas and there's a lot of Hunting that goes around here so I imagine there's quite a few places like that That'd be more than happy to You know get your deer already Take care of your meat Get your meat You bring them we slash them Yeah the um Rabbit episode was actually supposed Well that was the length of the second Actually we were planning to do Venison and then I completely fucked it up I Fucked up the first episode and then we Refilled it which took like seven hours by the way And then the camera The camera fucking died As we were doing Not like At the start not like two hours in Right as we're getting like the money shot Plating You know that the iconic Shot that everyone wants to see It dies And For some reason I don't know why There's no indicator on the camera I use So we just kept on filming And uh Gathered up all the footage later on and then realized We didn't have that Good old-fashioned money shot so we had to can it Went back to the butcher They're out of venison so then we switched to the rabbit Which one was better Oh the rabbit for sure I had never had it before And it was my first time cooking it so It was kind of like a challenge to me And Something really cool to do too So rabbit is uh You like to taste a rabbit better than venison Um I mean it tastes like chicken And I do fancy The rabbit chicken Tastes exactly like chicken I mean I paid like 40 Dollars for this tiny little rabbit One stinking rabbit Exactly like chicken dude It's jumpy chicken It's the attitude of the animal Because you hear people say that all the time It tastes just like chicken but I don't I think if I had to name an animal that The animal that isn't chicken that tastes Closest to chicken I think is actually alligator I was just going to say that too What Yeah I knew I wasn't crazy Not out crocodile dude Okay I'm out of the loop Why is an alligator a crocodile close to a Chicken taste wise Is that just what I didn't have an American Wait cause dinosaurs I'm surprised No I'm pretty sure that I just said it There was too much You have to say it again No I'm just trying to explain my point I'm pretty sure that our birds Descendant from dinosaurs Crocodiles are basically dinosaurs So there you go Dinosaurs eventually became birds What are you Crocodiles are Crocodiles are Like related to dinosaurs I'm pretty sure they are I thought it was just that they've been around For ages Crocodiles have been around for a long time I think that's just because Welcome to our podcast by the way But I think it's just coincidental Because there probably would have been a lot of changes You know between the dinosaur Chicken stage and what The crocodiles and alligators have been hanging around I'm not sure that that's Although birds may be The only modern dinosaurs This is from The Canadian Broadcast Corporation Like Canada This is the first link that came up Modern crocodiles and alligators Are almost unchanged from the ancient ancestors Get a new link No that makes sense If the crocodiles and alligators are unchanged Then they might have shared a common ancestor But One wouldn't have been descended from the other Oh Maybe not If birds Yeah but if it's the idea that Birds, because you know turkeys And chickens are not the same But they taste similar So if that's the case Then surely there's like and duck as well So like if that's the case And it was belonging to a similar group Taste similar Maybe that's just one of the things You like duck Let me set the stage Duck does not taste like chicken At all Yeah it doesn't That's why I was asking Because I really like duck But it doesn't taste like chicken Tastes great though I like it There's absolutely nothing That they don't have to loop I've never evolved from a crocodile either I'm not saying that they evolved from crocodiles That's not what I'm saying They didn't They don't taste like How do you know what that is They found engravings To describe the taste of dinosaurs That's how we know From other dinosaurs They wrote it down It wouldn't be cool to taste a T-Rex Just to see what it's like That's tasting power Obviously after it's just died of natural causes No need to butcher the animal Just for the taste I heard predatory animals don't taste as good As herbivores I'll tell you why that's true Let me replace the word herbivores With hunters and hunted Why game meat Or predators And game taste good Like let's say venison Or whatever game meat you're talking about Is because those fucking animals Are running for their lives All day long out there in the wild So they build up this Crazy like Enzyme structure within the meat I saw it on Joe Rogan at one point You can go look it up but It's just the one of not being Afraid I get your mind The less domesticated you are Eating corn, meal, crap Rolling around in your own shit The better you should taste Obviously We also have something to do with their diet too I assume so Grass The diet of grass Different from just eating Like a carnivore just eats Meat Have you seen it? Am I the only person who's seen the Tiger King documentary Out of us five? I haven't seen it I haven't seen it Tiger King is like a Netflix documentary But they show like it's just Tiger's a captain made money off It's pretty horrible on their end But it's also insane documentary Crazy shit They take all of the expired meat From different supermarkets and that's where they feed The lions where they just shove into a big van And it's just all these different kinds of meat And it's just like plopped into their Pens I wonder if that makes a difference Like fed higher grade Or higher value quality Even cooked meat versus just raw Random shit from supermarkets and stuff That reminds me of this documentary Called The Cove No I haven't I haven't even heard of that Great documentary It'll make you pissed off but it's really good No It's about these Dolphins That are kept In captivity in the small island Yeah like dolphins come on man Everyone loves dolphins But These people butcher These dolphins For commercialized meat Then they take the dolphin meat And repackage it And label it as tuna So You think it'd be quite more expensive to kill a dolphin And sell it as tuna Then Not true because dolphins are cool And they just kind of like come up to you Okay dolphin come here Oh man Come to me as I hoist this giant spear At your face Wow And then the entire Indigenous population Now has like mercury poisoning You know cause dolphins and sharks They have a high concentration of mercury In their blood which makes the meat The flesh really dark like tuna It's fucked up Oh Yeah that's not That is very strange I have no idea Please don't tell me that happens often Now I don't have to see the documentary and I don't want to Yeah just make sure you double check That hamburger meat Store I don't think I've eaten an animal that I didn't like though Was that called the Cove you said The Cove yeah Where can I watch that was that on like Netflix Or HBO I think it was a Netflix You know they've got some really good documentaries Blackfish is good It's about I've seen Blackfish that's a sad one as well That one pissed me off dude Basically the Shutdown of Sea World because they were Killing great white Sharks wait not great white sharks Orcas killer whales Orcas yeah killer whales And another one that's really good you guys should Check out is the Wire The show No it's This fascinating documentary Where these Two people climbed the And obviously in the past The Two towers Yes for I don't want to harp on the sentiment regarding it But they climbed the two towers At one point and Shot a cable I think out of like a bow and arrow Talked about across The two towers And then walked Oh yeah I know this Oh yeah I've heard of this I haven't watched it but I have heard of it That's a big note from me Oh damn it Everyone say it man on wire is that what it's called That's it wait man Yeah that is it yeah I remember I remember this distinctly by the way Chris Stockman did a review of this movie He said I'm not going to spoil whether or not He makes it across the wire And a minute later he references the fact that They consulted with the guy who did that Hey He could have fallen and been okay Doesn't the entire movie Have interviews with the guy Who climbed it I think his whole thing was To spoil whether or not he made it I guess making a movie about a guy who falls To his death is not like It's a bit of an edgy climax He's a full ghost you don't know Chris Stockman I'm not going to spoil it One minute later Yeah This makes you wonder Or I mean it's just It dawns on you like What humans can do Oh yeah they're crazies Some of the chat said you died I got better Besides The people who put Animals and zoos for profit It's amazing what people can do I was curious I do remember Blackfish Their fins flop over eventually Because They just break, they can't work them properly Because of the space confinements and stuff It's one of the fissures that happens Yeah It's actually not about the physical Structure of the tank Or lack there of space It's this weird I hate this I guess this is kind of spoiling it So close your ears if you're going to watch it But Something happens in their brain While they're in captivity That makes them go like Like crazy And they literally commit Like suicide in the tank Because they can't Like live a life Wild Or is it different from that I'm not a scientist But seems like it to me It is One of the many documentaries when you watch it Like oh dear this needs to stop This has to go We gotta rethink this shit It's weird because The sea world At one point lived across the street from And I was there As they shut it down and they remade it into It was like Sea Kingdom They basically took away all the Sea creatures The whales The huge aquariums with the killer whales Due to government regulation They basically came in there Slapped them on the ass And said hey man you can't do this no more And then they pretty much Just like a video game remaster They remastered the theme park And they put a whole bunch of roller coasters in it Better to have roller coasters than Orcas At least they don't even risk his humans dying You gotta be ready to Ever seen those pictures of those Humans that arrive in the roller coaster And the fucker stops when they're upside down Yeah We're having a little bit of maintenance Issue and it's gonna be about Three and a half hours just sit tight Aw man I don't know What roller coasters What the roller coaster is called But at Cedar Point there's this roller coaster That just goes really high up And then you go down And it's literally just one hill And it's like I think the tallest roller coaster there And it kept breaking down Like ten times while we were there And then my dad was like Let's ride this one and I was like I don't know if I want to ride the one that keeps breaking down There's like that repair man Sitting on the side with He's all washed up Wants to go home, greasy beard He's got the screwdriver in his hand Trying to fix that That's a good vote of confidence I did ride it It was like five or felt like five seconds It was fun Not the most fun I had there It was always like I don't know If I want to be riding the one that keeps breaking That's a valid concern That's a real make to work fun Do you guys have a lot of theme parks In the UK Oh well Yeah we got like Thorpe Park And most of the time we just Are out of our little island When we want to go to the better ones I've only heard of Thorpe Park Because of the in betweeners Yeah Oh you know It's funny because in my head I was just like What do you mean Covid We're not allowed to go anywhere It's just spooky but When things are a little bit more in function You've got the Disneyland Paris Which is pretty close by You can drive there There's a bridge of Spooka You can't drive over on water You can, freeze it Like a sorcerer Like that scene from the Polar Express movie Or Frozen Yeah how's that That was a reference Frozen wait In Frozen There was a train on ice What When you're only half Big attention you can buy the ship Yes Fringy the Polar Express Cameoed in Frozen It was around the halfway point It splattered I was about to say the Frozen Express The Polar Express wasn't made of ice Frozen ice It was Um So everyone was just saying Frozen So here's a question What is everyone's opinion on What carrots I love them, they're great So good I love them What was the method of cooking It was Very important You've already lost me Cooking Does a flamethrower help Boil them Take them in a stew I've had them In stews and stuff If you put a carrot In a pot of boiling water And then hand it to me I will throw it in the trash Wow I'll write that down I boiled this for you I just want to know why They taste like Baby food You mean like really soft and Yeah The way you should cook your carrots is Roast them And it makes them Crispy and Yummy It's not really about the food sometimes It's about how you Hand them food Obviously you always want to cook with fresh ingredients But It's how you utilize the ingredient That Determines the final product I've never actually had roasted carrots I might have to give that one a try So I'm worried to ask What your opinion on mashed potatoes is We Like I said earlier We're really poor rags So ate a lot of mashed potatoes grown up in So that could either mean That you have a wonderful fondness For them or you never want to see them again In your life If I would ever make them It would be like In a different Format I'll just say that I would never go out of my way and make mashed potatoes Stuff it into my life I'd rather throw up Sounds like you hate me If you would Boil them up a bit Roast them after that Things like that I prefer sweet potatoes because they're healthier I would eat a sweet potato Over a potato I don't actually like sweet potatoes Really? I just don't like them There are some foods where I just feel like the sugar Just doesn't have the sweetness to it Ever roasted them I can't remember Probably not But I'm not sure Next time I come across A roasted sweet potato though I will give it a try I assume the sweet potatoes That you may be referring to Classic Thanksgiving Sweet potato mash That tastes like candy It's nasty It does taste candy like That's why I don't like it I don't like sweet tea I'm from the south Everyone here has sweet tea I can't do it Never liked it Sugar doesn't mix with certain things I don't like sweet tea How is the Arkansas What is the covid situation down there Not too much Everyone's more spooked than anything else But not much covid stuff going on here Places are pretty much open They just do the reduced capacity Have to wear a mask that sort of thing Diamond doors Yeah, there's some of that Depending on the place But it's not like there's not lockdowns Or things of that nature It's fairly light There's no covid situation down there Lots of them There are rabbits everywhere Every time I walk outside at night There are rabbits all over the place Now just thought Have I ever told you the story of Rabbits in Australia How big are they Do they attack you The idea that Rabbits are some money python And the holy grail Where the rabbit just kills everybody Rabbits are an introduced species So as the story goes There was a guy Probably like a hundred or something years ago Who was like Man, it sucks that I can't go hunting Rabbits in this country that doesn't have rabbits I should bring in some rabbits And we'll hunt them Let's do that And so he brought 24 rabbits He let those 20, yes I'm pretty sure it's 24 He brought 24 rabbits And let them loose He didn't get them all I'm pretty sure there are now 200 million rabbits in Australia I think that might actually be a gross underestimate I think there might be more than 200 million It got so bad That they had to build A 3000 kilometer long fence In western Australia to keep them out So for a lot of fences To keep animals out And now you have Another to fight a war against the rabbits Well How does one fly to a war against rabbits I don't know When you said they built something I thought it was like a rabbit laser Or a rabbit turret They built a rabbit proof fence And it's not rabbit proof It didn't work It's not like the dingo fence The dingo fence Do you not know about the dingo fence Well I know about dingo They didn't know there was the great Australian dingo fence Well It is pretty great It's like 5000 kilometers long It's really long And it's It's a dingo fence You understand Ancient China built a wall to keep the Mongols out Fucking Australia Builds a fence to keep the rabbits out To keep themselves out It worked though The dingo fence was successful The rabbit fence didn't work Well yeah Rabbits were a lot smaller than dingoes Well you called it a rabbit proof fence I didn't call it a rabbit proof fence That's what they called it That's the actual name of the fence Australia I didn't name it I'm just saying It didn't work For everything Australia's ever did I do hold him responsible For a lot of Australian things I want to double check The actual number of rabbits That we have in Australia now Just so you don't drop another bobshell on us What other fences do you have What about this kangaroo fence The t-rex fence I imagine that kangaroo fence has to be extra high Well I think It's mainly just It's mainly just these two enormous Fences that a thousand kilometers long An elegant solution Well Yeah I just want to highlight as well I like that the story began with the rabbit Not originally from Australia Anything cuddly and normal is from Australia Hey look Kangaroos are pretty cuddly You just don't want to get too close to them Otherwise they'll beat you up That's the opposite of cuddly though If you ban damn you They are I mean cassowaries You don't want to go near cassowaries The cassowary is like And maybe you want steroids I don't know what that is Let me see If you inject steroids into What It's not actually An e-view It just looks a lot like one Tone, you know You played halo reach right Oh Oh my god Where is this going So you know those giant birds In the first mission of halo reach That's essentially what an emu is Or that We have a Picture in the chat that thing looks Actually a little bit more prehistoric than a crocodile Hold on Let me show you the real picture The real picture that should are That should terrify me It's a floopal dag What an absolute sandwich Is that What an absolute sandwich That's a cassowary kicking through A giant metal sheet That reminds me of When canine Sheriff trainers get the canine To attack them with the glove on What the hell is that guy doing Is that a shield Or is that going to prevent the cassowaries Into taking out my shield Only in Australia do you need a fucking shield Against That's a steel shield Have they weaponized the cassowary Have they put it into war yet Well it's funny right Are we arming these things at this point Oh god don't give them arms Jesus Christ Have you heard of the great emu war No No No one laughed at the rags Joe pun No arm Thank you Arms They don't have arms That's great I got you The great emu war Took place about 100 years ago I'm pretty sure In the land of Australia Give us the fable A bunch of farmers Again in western Australia They didn't like that emus were Making things difficult for them So they launched a campaign against them Gosh they were being serious Australia fought a literal war Against a bunch of birds And they lost It's not that we lost It's more that we just quit It didn't work You were the one that just described it as A loss Well it was a loss in the sense That we didn't achieve our objective It was a loss in the sense that we didn't win It was like a big battle And the Australians just were defeated What I mean is that we weren't Conquered by the emus We just left them alone You just built a fence around yourself To keep the emus from weighting you out We didn't build a fence for the emus Because I don't think it would work The aliens didn't lose They just went home You couldn't build an effective fence against rabbits Of course you couldn't build a fence We built an effective fence against dingos It's pretty good You got one thing down When a cassowary Or an emus are on different levels I agree That looks like it could possibly fly Well that's a cassowary Emus aren't as hostile I feel like a cassowary Could just kick the earth downwards And then sort of fly as a result Kind of like Or just knock it out of its axis These things seem powerful Like a polevolter Your entire country is like Jurassic Park In real life Hey look, if you leave them alone It's fine That sounds like something a loser would say If you leave them alone They're fine No really And kangaroos are like I said Unless you get really close to them They're okay It's great as long as you're not up close You didn't actually tell us How they fought Oh well So the emus Like they didn't fight It's more that the farmers were unable To successfully curb their numbers That was their goal And they couldn't do it You didn't kill enough Yeah basically Anti-climactic I was imagining This giant war A giant battle of culture Versus humans They gathered up on an empty field In the horizon The shield one is breached The battle of Like in Lord of the Rings The emus on one side Fire at will I've brainstormed ideas of If I were to make a movie I'd call it World War II And it would be It would be like the Serious war film With dudes with assault rifles and shit Going up against emus and the emus With their heads off I thought about this star Well not like that The flashing darkness Is the emus lunges through And the numbers getting reduced I would just make saving Private Ryan Only the Nazis are emus Is it going to star Brad Pitt Well I mean it has to Brad Pitt is trying to like Isn't it World War Z Yeah that is World War Z We had a saying Subscribe You can't beat me You still lost Guys look the emus I love the idea that they're using Like actual military equipment Like light machine guns And they're setting up I can't believe You used machine guns Against birds and you lost Alright look I'm just As he said well He simply didn't win Yeah that's what a loser Well Look alright I'm just saying I'm just saying America would have got the job done Maybe it's a good thing that Australia took all your guns away Because you're clearly not good enough to use them You can't even Win a war against a bunch of birds No wonder You don't deserve guns Here in America I guess a similar issue That we have is with hogs Wild hogs Where there's just so many of them And it's to the point where they let you Ride around in helicopters and shoot them Really? Wow I haven't heard about that law in California But maybe Oh in California maybe not Yeah and a lot of other places You can do that but probably not in California They got weird gun laws But yeah In places where warthogs are really bad You just shoot as many as you want Because there's so many of them With an M16 Well If you have an M16 very few people do But yeah whatever you've got Rifles Generally for hunting though You need at least a minimum size caliber For certain animals so you don't just Like wound it and name it You have to actually use a bullet That'll sufficiently kill them You know quick enough Yeah generally so like 30 caliber That's why a lot of like AK's Are popular around here Because of hogs You have to have like 30 caliber in a lot of states In order to Kill hogs We know we have in California Not warthogs But we have turkeys dude Oh turkeys Lots of turkeys I got these dude I got these six Gross turkeys that come onto my mulch In the summer Every day And they pluck at my mulch And they tear it up And they throw it on my lawn And like I go to my neighbor and I'm like dude can I shoot this thing It's like I don't know California's Going to go to a conservative You can't really touch them You can't really have a gun either Dude fucking with your mulch That is not cool That's kind of the thing we have to institute in Australia Because like historically We were not good at maintaining The ecosystem here It doesn't seem like you're any better nowadays Oh no Let everything burn to the ground What if you just like For example There's an animal called a quoll Quolls are actually really cool animals They're like Possum predators They're like hunter possums Yeah Actually they're really nifty Hold on How easily can these kill a human They're like Don't worry I got one for you So These are These nifty little fellas They're now protected because they often get killed By like Oh my god that's adorable I imagine it would like Rip my eyes out Everything looks cute except for the claws It is a carnivorous species But they're really small So it's okay Well interestingly Ever since the thylacine Which was the Tasmanian tiger Which isn't a cat It's like a dog That used to be the largest I think Land-based mammal predator in Australia But now the tiger quoll isn't It's like a possum size So it's kind of important That we preserve these little fellas Because they're like they're apex predators They are the apex predators Of like A possum That looks like an apex predator to me The cuter it looks the more dangerous it is Australian logic Well But you got like Tasmanian Devils and they're They are pretty cool They scream a lot though Or like they are They scream a lot I don't know I went on Amazon And I bought a slingshot To kill these turkeys Because I couldn't buy a gun And I fucking clocked one in the head And it just walked away Dude I feel like Thanks to you saying that was going to be art made Of you like Just walked away And it came back the next day I mean Well you got to hit them twice maybe three times I don't know I'll get the message eventually Should I break it next time Or a knife I actually saw these flock of turkeys When I was driving recently And if it wasn't for my dogs in my car I would have swerved off The damn rabbit just clobbered them But your dog No seatbelt Oh the dog wasn't buckled up I don't traditionally Buckle up my dogs Oh no I was At the start I was confused As to what difference the dog made And then I was like oh the dog was in the car And you didn't want the dog to get hurt If you went up road Always clarified I would have definitely soccer momed Them at the Soccer momed them At the very least Come to America Soccer momed the turkeys Oh I'm going to have to steal that Just refer to hitting things on the road Soccer moming it While we're on the subject of animal I like how it's just me bringing up all these Australian animals So is it common for like What's the biggest bird In America I thought you were going to ask if it was common For people to lose wars against birds Well We haven't lost any wars Against the poultry We tend to win Well I mean how do you know That California condors Haven't secretly infiltrated your government And are ruling everything Does they have a peace with the condors Well In any case the question I was trying to ask Is What's the biggest bird That you have? Is it the condor or the fold eagle I think the California Condor is the biggest bird In North America But I'm not sure that's purely I mean I just googled that apparently it's the golden eagle Really The golden eagle The wingspan topping 7 feet golden eagles Are the largest hunting birds in North America Okay so they are Oh 50 of them Their length is 66 centimeters to 100 centimeters Okay let me look up I'm pretty sure the west tail of the eagle Has a wingspan of 3 meters Hold on I'm pretty sure All of the American birds Are damn near extinct Unfortunately Condors really are hard to find From what I understand I think they're like ravines Right Actually here we go But These guys have like Massive They're like nobody knows what centimeters is Yeah get on the rest of the world's level West tail of the eagle West tail of the eagle I think it looks like it wants to kill me Well From Australia It's 3 meter wingspan Why do I feel like those things would like Carry nuclear bombs Across the world Like a coalition of all Australian Birds launching a war against the world You shoot me I dropped the bomb Is this what you want? Like you got these little amphibious Planting crots Let off the casuaries of the emus They tried to go in the fence But they couldn't get it high enough Wow That could be the sequel to world war e Just world war a Like resistant war a War for Australia Guys we need the funding we have to Get this thing higher come on Just build a dome around your cities And like pretend the rest of Australia Doesn't exist There's such amazing Eagles in Australia or whatever that they can go to space That's just like a thing they can do It'll be like that Dammit Space birds like Rick and Morty with space snakes They're just hunting space You're telling me that there's a bird that can go to space And you still can't fucking build a fence To keep some rabbits out It's like Every factoid about your country Makes me think very much But there are no birds In space what do they breathe Like what How would they get to space and how would they get back Without burning up Just because it's probably bigger than out by now It's Australia I like that Some people say that Australia's made up And I don't know The more I hear about Australia the more that seems Like it might be the case This doesn't sound like a real place You just claimed that apparently they have birds that go to space Like what's that about No sense at all That's not what I said Everyone heard it It's very simple The birds just put on helmets They put on helmets And then that's all they do They're bird scientists They fall We're good to go Weird visualizations of what Australia Actually is right now Giant birds attacking people with the machine guns You've got walls all the way up to the sky Birds fly to the moon What the hell is going on over there I just think that's what it is They mostly don't attack people Mostly You sound like you do I couldn't imagine that Just people looking at Ripley be like The cute animals don't Usually kill people Well, magpies don't kill people Yeah, magpies, we have those here We have some of them They have Australian ones, they're regs They have fangs Australian magpies, they don't just Steal shiny objects from the nest They commit identity theft All sorts of other crazy Australian versions Working to crash the stock market As we speak I'm just these birds Sitting at their computers Buying up features and like That's trading stocks to plumb At the economy I wonder if my crypto currency just went down Hell Yeah, it was magpies Damn magpies I do like that just a normal Standard magpie is more intimidating than Magpie from Batwoman Just like a normal bird I can't always be afraid I can't believe they brought it back It's like yeah, magpie Someone in the chat said They mostly come out at night Mostly Well, I mean, they're not Well, I think like the majority of Australian animals knock turn all Of course, that's just an added bonus Yeah, they come out at night, of course They do because it's Australia The fucking flowers are nocturnal over there The flowers You have to lock up your flower bed So children don't disappear Oh my god They're like the plants from Jumanji They're Robin Williams one The plants are just they shoot Harbs and stuff in your neck Horrible image of like a kid falling into A flower patch and then the flower patch Just starts eating the kid This is terrifying We need to make this series, this TV show It's Australia, is it real And a bunch of people go there Like adventurers and they all get killed one by one And it's like horror zone Every time someone kills by something Cute and cuddly the Terminator theme Starts playing It's like the Lovecraft shit Where you go there and everyone's just like Weirdly okay, weirdly normal Things are just a little bit off And it's all the stereotypical stuff You hear about, like everyone's saying no And stuff like that and you're just like Walking around, not trusting it And then eventually you see a door that no one's allowed to go into And you're like what is this, it leads to like the real Australia Like Australia too You hear the distant roar of the T-Rex You're like yeah, I do it It's like the upside down Then they push you in Just as you realize it's there And you're like no coming back The funny thing right is the whole idea of You know brown snakes It's pretty obvious why you wouldn't want to go near them But like platypuses are the ones that The surprise I think Yeah they're so cute and cuddly It's the whole thing about Platypuses are the alpha males Like if you would have a species of animals Like platypuses are the most Alpha animals That there are That there's ten women platypuses For every one male platypus That's how competitive they are I love how you just said women platypuses Women platypuses Well yeah, female platypuses Women platypus, yeah Like a woman deer as a doe, yeah They need a better word like platypops Well I And I'm pretty sure that the plural is not like Platypi, it's platypuses You know There's a lot of platypuses I imagine I got another question for you Fring And this is a serious question So I saw this ad from Australia And given how cute and cuddly animals From your country tend to kill people I'm pretty sure this must be true How many minefields are in your beaches How many minefields What do you mean I mean that there's an ad From Australia that I saw Where a bunch of kids skip school And they went to a beach and it was a minefield And they all died No Have you guys never seen this video No, I've never seen the video It sounds like we just made that shit up No, I've not Okay, we're gonna get into a watch together I'm gonna show you guys this It's the greatest portal you will ever see If it is all All the shit that Fring's been saying today could be made up You don't know, we don't know Oh yeah, we had a war with the emus And we have a 5,000 mile long dingo fence And I thought this is real This is a really cool book you're writing I guess It seems weird though Yeah, it seems a little unbelievable No one is ever gonna buy this Space Eagles really Okay I gotta watch together, I'll send you guys the link Is this like a copytism thing at all Or are we just seeing People being blown up by mines Like I don't know What was that kids Don't be beach bums Is Hilarious Australian ad Tells kids not to be beach bums I'm not sure I'll mute it just in case Yeah, that's probably for the best Teppo faces there Ready for whatever I'm terrified for these teenagers He doesn't know what's gonna happen I'm still shocked that none of you have seen this I've never seen this I don't even know what I'm watching Oh you're like a hilarious thing Where they just explode violently It's the greatest ad Ever made This minefield sponsored by Coca-Cola They're just teens having a wonderful time What could go wrong Oh you'll see Oh is she gonna blow up Is she gonna blow up Holy shit Oh my god What the fuck Why would you immediately stop sprinting What are you thinking Oh Oh Well I mean that's what he gets Kind of pissed you out in this country Jesus Christ She said we had to play on TV Well I don't know if it was played on TV But Poor people If only I wasn't a beach bum Oh she died too This is for real You gotta see the message of this ad This is what happens when you slack off You get exploded by My I They put this on TV I don't believe that they did I'm not sure that they put it on TV I believe the five thousand mile Dingo fence over this I just I just love the fact that In Australia this is where the ad comes from Australia makes that kind of shit I just like the idea that like it's not Mines it's just turtles That's Australian turtles that's what they do I just double Check the length of the dingo fence Yeah, it is five thousand six hundred kilometers Geez Yes Especially when it was built in 1880 to 1885 Someone said what the No ring howl Oh The mind turn I'm imagining someone stepping on like a turtle shell And it just makes a clicking sound That's it So there is an animal That lives in the Great Barrier How does it kill you Fringy I'm guessing it does it at night It's like a It looks like a rock and it has these Of course it does Of course it looks like an innocent rock It has pincers, rpgs Like what are we dealing with It has little things at the top Like little sharp pincers and if you Step on it and shoot it Yeah You tell me that this thing is like The nail from Home Alone Um, hold on I don't Is the nail from Home Alone a rock thing That shoots stuff into you Step on it I think nails normally just shoot pain Into you whenever you step on it Horrible, horrible, terrible nail pain It's all that Stonefish Oh I know what you're talking about Yeah The fish that looks like a stone And then it's super poisonous And Thanks nature For making death rocks Nature is metal man That's what I didn't mention The whole fucking reason You know what I was telling you guys about How I was on Reddit looking at the nature is metal stories Um The reason I got on there Was because the video that was shit I think I only said my reaction to the video And also that's pretty terrifying You don't know what that's gonna do That just looks like one of those things you're like Okay explain it to me That's the kind of thing I would see that On the beach and then I would just be like Alright I'm never going to a beach ever again Dude this sword Like fucking face huggers are stored Keep them afloat In jobs That way They can't harm the population You're scary So the one that got me into Into the subreddit Was not into it Like clicked into it Was a video that got highly upvoted It's the zebra Who had a tussle with a crocodile It had tore open the belly And its stomach had come out And the zebra had escaped The clutches of the crocodile Only it was panicking Filled with adrenaline And it kicks its own stomach until it disconnects From itself to escape Oh my god Fuck off Jesus Christ It comes out in a whole bag And it just kicks and kicks and kicks And then spreads away and it's like dude I think you need that To be fair That's great I mean weight loss Option you know it's heavy Considered detaching your stomach Sir I messaged you about it earlier But when you were telling that story What was it the dough that was getting eaten By a Komodo dragon That ripped out the baby I had just ate a burger From five guys Seconds before you told that story And I was like oh wow I'm so glad I wasn't I don't know a lot about Komodo dragons But the thread was all about how Komodo dragons do not give a fuck I think they're like really Fucking dangerous Terrifying Well just look at this shot They look like something out of Walking with beasts, walking with dinosaurs There it is the Komodo dragon You're like oh wow look at that thing Lucky that's the extension I think they're indigenous to the Darwin island Correct me if I'm wrong You gotta go out of your way Wait does Australia not have these ones Well they're near Australia They probably have something worse They're the only ones that got out of Australia They're so fucking badass My god you didn't need to build another fence Well the interesting thing is I remember watching a thing that talked about How we used to have mega marsupials So we used to have like three Mega marsupials That's another class mega A long time ago Like millions of years ago Kind of like the mega creatures That you had in North America Before they were hunted to extinction I'm not sure what happened to these ones They're just not around anymore That's a nifty little avatar You know Komodo dragon is probably one of the cooler animal names Yeah Well the island is called Komodo That's why it's called a Komodo dragon It's like what is the coolest animal name And I know that it's not really fair Cause like some of them are cool because of the animal Chinchilla Well I guess Crocodile is cool regardless That was a pretty cool animal name I feel like Komodo dragons got a skull pretty high up I think so Yeah Imagine if those things actually had wings What Komodo Yeah Like walking around and then you see a Komodo dragon Oh god Swipping in like an actual dragon on wing That is Komodo dragons had wings I think we would have actually left the planet by now Well I don't think we would have made it We're just giving it to them we're like it's alright you guys can take it Um Okay so Apparently Apparently Komodo dragons So Komodo's group behavior in hunting Is exceptional in the reptile world The diet of the big Komodo dragons Consists of Timor deer So these These are fast enough To hunt deer Well maybe they're ambush predators Like alligators and stuff Yeah the video I saw was actually like It's hard not to assume these things Just like causing pain It was just a little Fawn giving birth And it's just like yep this is for me It's like oh no Well yeah it says that Komodo's attacks on humans are rare But evidently they've happened Um Wow I imagine it's one of those things where they're like don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you And you're like okay alright Yeah I was fine Anything you say absolutely Mr. Mr. Dragon I don't remember what it was from But I remember hearing or watching this Like episode of some Show forever ago Of some guy who was like hiking on Komodo island And he Got sick with something I don't remember what it was but he was being hunted by Komodo dragons while he was sick And then he eventually keeled over And died and the dragons got him And all that was left was the No camera footage because he was filming a documentary Doing it Well Komodo dragons are venomous I believe I know we're just Piling on horrible things about this creature But I think they're also venomous It was like 10 years since I seen this So I don't remember all the facts behind it Apparently they might be venomous Maybe they don't know for sure How the fuck do we not know for sure You want to go near them and try and find out Do you think that we'd have like Technology that would allow us to do things How can we find out that a snake is venomous But not a Komodo dragon How does one pin down like a Komodo Dragon How do you tranquilize it when it's got like Giant Look at it Does anything come through that You use spear tranquilizers okay You fucking dig it in I'm pretty sure that like Saltwater crocodiles are so strong That like lower caliber bullets Can't actually penetrate Okay well what if we drug up a baby With tranquilizers Well yeah but the high caliber bullet Will just kill it Oh no not that Well if it's dead can't we Extract like poison from its poison glands Or something How did it live man Yeah I feel like The rules to life are not fair Dude The fucking eagles got to space before we did Like I don't think that we can really say What this planet has in store for us I feel like you can put like You know those stat screens Of like the strengths And weaknesses of enemies And then you get to like some absurdly unfair Enemy that has only one very Specific weakness You just got strength stacked up On the entire right side of the screen He is what you call a meta build Yeah I feel like you could put those Next to almost any animal in Australia And it would make sense I mean I I don't know I may Like you could put next to emus Just invincible Don't try Do not engage Extremely dangerous I feel like emus would just be that they have Like in Pokemon when they just keep doing Like speed up or evade up And so every attack emiss is It's nothing but sand attacks So you can't even Oh my god And it screeches that you Dude early game Early game with metapod just keeps using hard And you're like stop it Stop With it this is your doomed Just doing that out of spite Metapod like I don't know I guess I'll just get harder I guess Australia is filled with Dark Souls bosses I wonder What the names would be for like the bosses In Dark Souls in Australia Emu of I don't know Like emu of the Boreal Valley Emu of the Abyss Deathbird of Gorloc Cassowary soul of Cinder Razor feather Deathbeak You wouldn't need to change Komodo Dragon That's fine Just keep that one Komodo is like the DLC for when you venture Like you know to the islands So he's like Gale or whatever He's cool I don't know that much about Dark Souls The beast of Komodo Island I can't tell if that was a laugh Or a cough It was both Choose one Greedy Australian What wanting to laugh and cough How dare I Why did you want to cough Yeah it's a clear threat Yeah clear the air Yeah I think that's okay we can approve of that I'm glad you asked us permission first though Your approval Your approval Hey uh I think people are gonna explode if I don't ask Mr. Tone What do you think is like better Like if you were to choose one as the better one Would it be Christmas or Halloween Uh Halloween for sure Oh yeah Oh yeah I like dressing up Welcome to team Halloween my brother I left you real though when we were kids Like Christmas was the shit Oh yeah sure Yeah Christmas is meeting Over time I feel like Rags you'll probably Christmas run Of course Christmas is better than Halloween He's not even close it's obvious I mean it's obvious if you know You're just a What do you mean friggy your pro Christmas too Why are you saying it like it's a weird thing Uh huh You said it like oh your pro Christmas right It's like so are you it's okay it's alright I wasn't saying anything It's nothing to be ashamed of we give you permission The two of us are pro Christmas It's like a political candidate Well I do I like I mean I think uh because we talked about this The other day part of the reason why I'm Very slanted towards Christmas is because There's just not a lot of exposure to Halloween In Australia like all I've had was tree house Of horror Australia's just Halloween every day Yeah I mean even if you did have Halloween You'd still prefer Christmas because it's Halloween I mean it's Halloween you can't compare to Christmas I really like Christmas Christmas is cool I'm not going to be As mean as Shad and say Halloween is worthless Did Shad get like touched by Halloween As a child He had a I don't know if it was Prepared but that was a speech and a half That rant like It Disturbed me a little bit It was like Shad what happened to you On Halloween I suppose people are curious about Your your leanings wolf um funnily Enough they would discover it Is it in the second Reaction set so it would be after this Reuploading By every measure Well there you go Um Well yeah That was something Speech I mean Oh definitely he was he was going for it And I you know I respect the passion Um What What What was the case Oh he I mean to be honest with you All I remember he was just shitting all over Halloween he was like Halloween is the worst thing ever Really wasn't even any Arguments Never heard any He look He has a passion for Christmas and like I said I can't deny that shit that was good but Halloween I think it was done I think it was done dirty you know in that speech Peace on My ass there's no peace on earth I guess Christmas is um There's there's a certain I don't really like to build up to Christmas Is all at all but like Christmas day I've always liked I really Like Christmas day Even if it doesn't snow here and instead It's like 45 degrees and Boiling But uh I feel like Halloween is universal but like Christmas I came from a poor family so I got Like no presents And like Nintendo 64 And all who can think about is what he can get From it that's just Sad to hear it Sad to hear it Sad to hear it Giving when you can just buy What you want at any point of time And it can be The worlds come to I think well I don't know that like gift giving is one of the things I mean immediately I take on Christmas so There's like three major things about it There's the gift part which becomes Relevant once you get a Job and a credit card in an Amazon account No it doesn't because you get to give gifts to the People that you love Yeah if you have the money to do that which If you have a job like you said if you have a job And a credit card and all that stuff then you can do that So it never becomes irrelevant Well that's not exactly True it depends on how much job you Selfish little elf that's all I hear Selfish little Halloween redlands You do slave driving With the elves so you can't really That's fucked up dude The elves can leave whenever they want They're allowed to unionize And they can do all the stuff that they want The other thing Like The elves unionizing against He wakes up one day and sees It's just an understood thing you know we gotta Make sure that you know we're all On the same page here and think you're okay The elves standing across from Santa like They are the board It's more symbolic than anything else It's like we want to finish at five Fuck you finish at five Finish my fucking like iPads I wanted to actually Switch focus just a little bit to Either I mean It's totally up to you Tom but With either talking about games Because you clearly like games Or I heard You weren't too much of a fan And I'd like to maybe explore this with you The certain Star Wars movies Or Game of Thrones season eight I would totally love to talk about that Leave it up to the chat I am a Giving person rags Apparently not I don't like I don't love it but I like it To wait till Christmas to be giving rags Unlike everyone else who pretends to be In the givingest time of the year All of a sudden Don't have any money Game of Thrones style Oh god this is a big collection What do we do A lot of Star Wars Game of Thrones I will say though Let me cut in here I will say though I know more about Game of Thrones I'll go for it Wolf and Frenny We're talking about before the Podcast started I have not seen The Mandalorian Just throwing it out there That's alright I know it's a A heated Topic I've heard Well I can't I mean we agree But I don't think everybody agrees With our take on it Yeah literally being in the minority That it's very very beloved But You think it's beloved Oh it is yeah it's rated Really really highly already But I don't think it's very good at all In fact I think it's quite terrible That's the video I'm working on right now Can we get the cliff notes In case Game of Thrones wins I would like to hear Why I guess if I was gonna give Cliff notes Don't think that the characters are consistent The plot is basically nonsensical A lot of contrivances It's nothing anything really special with Why it's bad Yeah it's just not Offensively bad like I don't Hate it with any kind of personal thing And it's not like The last Star Wars movies Or Game of Thrones season 8 Doesn't really ruin anything I just don't think it's a well written And well made show I see why people like it Not catastrophic but Oh yeah it's just bad It doesn't destroy things It doesn't crap all over beloved characters And retcon a whole bunch of lore What you're referencing with that Could be anything What do you think it could be a selection Of like 7 different things but yeah Let me ask you guys a question I know some of you guys do like Really long form stuff When you like sit down To Write about something or think about something Do you approach it in like Okay is this movie Was it not Was it made poorly or Did I not enjoy it What's your viewpoint when you go into those I'm glad you asked that's kind of like Our thing is that we take Our enjoyment And whether it's of good quality And we're pretty good at separating the two Kind of I would say it's almost Like the core of EFAP Is separating the subjective From the objective nature Of media and we are fully Ready to say that something is terrible But we love it or it's great and we just don't like it Yeah we try and create a structure And then sort of As things come out we're like how does it Fair in the structure and then it's like Also what did you think of it like How did it make you feel How did it give you the goods or the bads or the nothings And I think the main Reason why that's valuable is because If it's strictly talking about what people Like and don't like it makes it very Hard to know whether or not Like if you're looking at a review for something And it's all like and don't like That's very subjective And so it doesn't Help you you know what I mean It's almost impossible to know Like where something is going to sit In terms of like a rating If it's all strictly how somebody Felt because it's really vague And it's just like If you're just going by how you feel How can you really know if it's like Of high quality or not Because feelings are so Why you like things can be For an uncountable amount Of different reasons If you like broke up with a girlfriend and watched the thing And then you're like this was shit And then you watch it like a year later when you're happy And you're like oh why did I hate this so much Easily swayed opinions Through like all kinds of different You know influences I guess And so it's really hard sometimes to be like Wait what was it actually And not to mention recanting events in a thing Can actually be really funny because We covered someone once upon a time who was convinced That Han Solo was killed By Rey He might have remembered that part Of the movie Let's just call it he had alternative facts Yes There may have also been another person Who very firmly believed That Gimli wanted Frodo To die The best thing about that one Is that they double checked They took the time to say this is True don't tell me it's not You're like okay alright That's just really Funny to me Well yeah so did we decide in Game of Thrones or Whatever the other option was Take the conversation away What do you want to know Actually just before you jump into it Because I will unfortunately I have to depart for now But I will be back later It is very good Speaking to you And I guess I'd throw my name for Game of Thrones as well If that's like the direction you're taking it in So yeah Good to meet you man I think you ruined Australia For me though It's not it's a good country Just don't approach Yeah all that said it's actually great Oh it's the wildlife That's it it's fine Everything else is really nice But yeah Look it's a great country But the landmines No I'm flipping it the other way around Wildlife excluded And I actually think the animals are really cool The landmines Yeah The same way that Warhammer 40k is cool Yeah Well I think it's a really Unique and interesting ecosystem And I think it's important that we preserve it I think the loss of this world has A united ecosystem Or the vast majority of living Organisms in Australia It's not that bad of a place to be Like I'm just saying You need to be killed or eaten by pretty much Everything that walks here but yeah come on by Walks, flies, crawls, dips Like yeah Even the rocks are like an inject poison Into your feet Yeah Friggy says stay indoors but yeah it was It was good talking here And good luck with the rest of it until I come back When it's uh We look in like four, five, six, seven Hours what we're doing Probably like six or six hours You might be able to get back into this Very stream Oh yeah maybe Yeah maybe I'll let you know But uh yeah alright catch you later guys Absolutely Goodbye Let me ask a question real quick as he cuts out How, so you guys have been streaming For and by the way I sit down to play a video game For like two hours I'm like creaking and groaning And the chair for 14 hours At this point I haven't been shifting my cheeks around here Yeah I try to do a little bit of Eating and drinking Oh yeah you know A lot of this happens once per week So relatively used to it but yeah Drink your fluids, move your body around And get them breaks while you can You know healthy memes Like you did a health video recently right Yeah it just it reminds me Like my very first job Which was at a call center Selling like CDs and stuff for a bank And I had to sit down in the chair for Eight hours and I got Two Ten minute breaks outside my lunch Geez I'm like I thought that was like literal torture So like I could bet you guys for The stamina Honestly it's the friends That keep us going and the entertainment And the chat, the interaction It's all very engaging As someone in chat Just said mollus buttocks are highly experienced True They're like big pillows I mean you got Chiseled ass cheeks You shift around a bit Here and there but you know a lot of it does Come down to who are you hanging out With what are you talking about If you've got something engaging To you know that you care About that you know a lot with If you're having a good time If you're laughing and enjoying yourself It's a lot easier than just sitting In the chair by yourself Being all alone and sad I gotta say I've gotten a lot of invites for podcasts And this is the first one I've ever done He does love us I hope you found it It's been weird I know No no You guys are pretty funny Actually I had no idea Oh by the way Gotta get this out of the way Where did tonal Originate what does it mean I know there's gotta be something Big behind that curtain I can explain I feel like I should So One of your videos I don't remember Which one it was It had tone loke At the bottom of it and we were like What does tone mean And we just jokingly were like What do we fill in Because tone's definitely gotta be A shortened version of your name Obviously Tony But uh We just memed it and uh Just combined Donald and tone And came up with tonal That's not obvious don't say like it's obvious Because tone and Tony are the same amount of letters Yeah I I wasn't sure Just now that he's told us in this call Yeah So without spelling them I can totally see how tone is short for Tony One's got one syllable one's got two So in that sense it's shorter But um I had no idea Like tone was short and it just seemed tonal Was funny and then we were like Until we get proper weird on it That must be canon Okay I Shall accept it I like it It's a name of a If you had a friend That's kind of like their name you know It's a tonal I feel like there's a little bit more to it But for now I'm cool with it Um Some things have humble origins So I don't want you to spoil too much But like what can we expect Cooking wise Do you want to entice Tease a little bit I'm telling you man It's been tough I've been really thinking about it And um Maybe we can get some chat Action here help me out But um at the moment I don't have any solid plans For who I'm a teacher And it's sad because I really liked doing those videos And while they were my most popular videos I found a lot of joy in them I think that might just be Newish like they're newish from your channel So sometimes if someone swaps The kind of content they do They might lose some old people And they need to build up the you know A new crowd of people who like that stuff But they are very good I agree um it actually It's kind of a window into my past actually Into YouTube you know At one point Around 2018 2017 I kind of stumbled into this Weird Creative Dramatic Just really condescending YouTuber Um I think a couple of us did A couple big YouTubers I mean Tyler from Clean Prince And um I got stuck on that road for a long time I don't know how I ended up there But I got like really unhappy Like just Constantly like waking up And putting out like pretty much garbage videos On a daily basis You know like a good way to grow the channel at the time And I was At first it was kind of enjoyable But as like time went on I decided like I needed to shift Um I The way I approached content And I started to explore different ideas The food thing was Pretty much during the apex Of my transitionary phase Like um I'd say over the past year or so I've pretty much gone With like my old My old self on YouTube Um that really negative Presence Um Started to focus on like celebrating games And stuff like that and like the food thing Was just like this natural like Experimentation Avenue for me because Unless be honest like If you're a full time YouTuber It's really tough to like Balance your own happiness With what's good for you financially And Saying it like that is kind of demeaning almost Because it It almost takes away from why You would want to become a creator right You fall into this trap of like Being like almost depressed Like you mean like you know what Um what works better for let's say Algorithms and sort of checks and clicks And stuff when So you might start edging toward that Instead of edging toward just doing what you love Yeah yeah I mean that's the essence of it right Um and then When you're like I was I was financially strapped to The position as well because I quit my job and it was like 2016 or so And it was a big job you know I went to School for like 8 years To get my MBA and I decided to fill the shoes of This YouTube channel was it was really Based off of my Passion for gaming Like the second you lose that which I know A few YouTubers that have gone down that road Myself included you know guilty It's like you can either Keep going down that road or you can like Try to Transition out but You strapped to it financially so It's like this weird balance and I think that's kind of like a topic That doesn't get discussed a lot among YouTubers is Like are YouTubers actually happy Oh man People have a An idyllic sort of version of it Like it's They don't see it as a job that comes With all of the issues that a more Typical and traditional job might have They think of it in a very romanticized Sort of idealistic way And that's That's really not how it is for A certain demographic of people on YouTube You know there's guys like You guys who seem to like Do what you want to do and you have Communities behind them that's Do what you want to do and it makes you happy which is cool But then like there's some YouTubers Who primarily exist in the realm of like Developing news content Daily content Dramatic or provocative content you know Like tackling issues like EAs a shitty Company micro transactions This special edition Is predatory you know like issues Like that and like Those are way different Than someone who just does it for the love of What they do So like I'm trying to get From that point To a place where I'm like generally Happy with everything I put out And I've pretty much been there for like Six months now and it feels good but Kind of circling back to what you were saying It's a new concept It's radical It has pretty much nothing to do With the wants and needs Of probably all the viewership Up until this point so I'm hoping that I can continue to make the videos and At some point They'll take off and Keep going One thing we noticed about Especially when the cooking video started Was compared to your old stuff From when we first saw you And before and All that is like this dramatic uptick And quality and passion Everything from it was written better Seeing you do everything You seem to be really into it Everything from the slow-mo cameras And the high quality footage To turning out a finished product It looked like, like what you did Isn't something that everyone Could do almost to the point Where I feel like it might even be detrimental Because it's so high It's so high skill And high quality sort of stuff But not something that you can't Like Inevitably teach people to do it And then get more people into it And get more engagement over time It's a huge difference in a good way No, I know what you're saying It's like where's the connection point For the person watching it Is it the food?  Is it the green screen stuff? Or is it the actual person behind The video? That's a big topic in itself Like do you go out and watch your YouTubers For them? Or do you watch it because the video title Made you want to click on it And then you just start to see How it's been in that ladder camp Which Took me to a place where I was like Okay, I want something different So that's kind of why I started it You've got a personality That would definitely attract people You're very approachable You're not A hoity-toity, sort of Better than you kind of guy You're someone that I think pretty much anybody Could relate to and listen to and talk with The cooking aspect comes right through in terms of just like oh this I want to see what I was gonna say I noticed um definitely something changing when you when you did your um your video on the the three Games it was was it Mario 64 Banjo-Kazooie and a third one that that was the video That was literally the video. Yeah, but that was I liked it Dude, that's what we said.   I just wanted to do something that was interesting and That's kind of a little bit of a spin on donkey stuff or donkey. Sorry Very short snappy stupid Yeah, yours is good Something real quick we cover or have covered a lot of people over the course of the show We're pretty bad content creators and who refuse change No matter how legitimate the criticism no matter how consistent they How consistently rather they commit the same mistakes And they just refuse to do anything different to improve their content I think you might be at least to my memory The only person that we've ever covered on the show who exponentially grew So much better with your content and I'll be the first to admit I really didn't like your content when I first saw it, but I genuinely love it now It's really really good really well written really well edited and you can The the passion in it is really palpable as you're watching it We actually feel like care about it and that's amazing.   Sorry, but I just want to say your your community has been really like nice to me um I'm getting like all these followers and comments and nice things You've said in the my twitter feed and stuff like that so I just want to say thank you to um, like I I have no idea who you guys are I just came on board because um Something new something fresh, but uh your your community has really reached out and given me a A warm welcome.  I'm trying to think of like what what are the best videos we covered And it's like it's gonna be the two cooking videos are gonna be really up there like really enjoyed them Appreciate that. I think the turning point um He hasn't cut me off of him going too far, but uh Was when I had this I think it was summer 2017. I was I was kind of depressed actually My girlfriend and I had broken up. I had moving out to uh, like an apartment. I was all alone but my channel was growing enormously like I was getting Tons of views, but the content I was putting out like I'll admit it. It was it was pretty low quality I would just go on reddit every morning look for the most controversial issue and I would I basically just take that and and craft in my opinion story on it and put on youtube and um Eventually this guy and I've never mentioned this guy ever because My philosophy in terms of like haters and stuff like that Is I don't interact with them Usually a wise idea I never ever It's just a personal thing with me I don't ever go after people or talk bad about people Because I believe like in respect whether or not you don't you like the person or not I don't like to slander people or talk behind people's backs I've never ever made a video about anyone on my channel for the exception of There's like an angry joe video where we're actually supported him But there was this guy In 2000s, I think it was 2017 name trolls us. I still remember his name and he He made a video about me and it was it was pretty bad. Um from from what I heard to this day I actually haven't watched it because It's I mean it's tough sometimes when when people It wasn't critique. I've heard it was it was a slandering. You know what I mean? It was a push someone into the mud and rub their face in the well dirt not not trying to like I'll do you in any way she before but we have lots of experience in that department.  Yeah, I was on youtube for eight years. I actually ended Doing youtube videos back in last december just because the depression had been getting to me So much over the years. So It's definitely feel you there Do you feel better now? Oh, yeah, I mean like I was telling you before we started up the stream I mean I pretty much gutted social media out of my life and it's been Much better. I mean there's still issues. It's you know clinical chronic depression So it's not really something that goes away, but you know getting the negative things out of my life has definitely helped me in a Very substantive way That's that's my whole philosophy Just do not surround yourself with negativity. Oh, absolutely Surround yourself with people who will support you and be there for you And positive people and this was exactly what this guy was this guy was this negative atomic bomb Like while I was in the process of going through like I don't want to say clinical depression because I've never been diagnosed with depression But I had reached an all-time low my channel was growing But I was so unhappy to the point where I would like not be able to sleep And I remember really fondly like walking out into my living room. I had a one bedroom You know get out of bed couldn't sleep walk into my living room I would literally just open the blinds and stare up at the moon dude and just I was like really unhappy So like that That event in 2017 That basically set off a chain reaction with me over the course of the course of next year where I had to like really find myself again Go through the learning process of What happened who I become How far down you know the rabbit hole I went How do I get back up? How do I make myself happy? because I for damn sure I wasn't happy doing what I was doing and I guess this is a question for you guys Do you think I probably don't even have to say any names but those individuals that they operate youtube channels and they all they do is slander and hate Like do you think it's possible for someone to enjoy their own life living in that environment? Um, I think it takes a special kind of person to do that. Um I certainly don't think a lot of people can it's one thing to be an audience member Around that kind of content all the time where you're looking for drama You're looking for know who fucked up big this week Who can we who can be our target this week? You know, they want to be like vampires like they only survive off other people falling Yeah, hive mind Yeah, there's a lot of internet blood sport kind of stuff a lot of That kind of content that I learned very quickly to stay away from it brings nothing but misery And they love to get personal, uh, which is a bit of a worry Something I've noticed about a lot of the people that attack uh, cfap and anyone affiliated with it is uh That a lot of them post about how upset they are Like quite a lot on twitter Some of it comes across as like please give me attention and sympathy points, please But if any of it's genuine and just for the sake of argument, I'll give them the benefit the doubt and assume it is It it seems that a lot of them don't seem to be very happy with themselves And they kind of lash out and attack other people to kind of project that anger onto somebody else because if we ever get to talk to any of them It's always it's just like this really chill really civil and they get to talk for as long as they want I mean, that's probably it's pretty much the what you were talking about wolf is almost emblematic of the culture of people Especially with social media. It's like with autonomy Your computer screen becomes A shield that can't be penetrating and you can pretty much say whatever you want and it hurts Which is why just personally I've never ever gone out of my way to ever I think the only time I ever featured someone besides angry joe on my channel was this article by kataku Which was a publication at one point I respected but I've changed my mind sense I think a lot of people are in the same boat Yeah Yeah, um, there was an article written by this It doesn't matter if it's a man or woman, but it was a woman Talking I think it was titled If you get harassed in an online video game speak up which To me as someone who who knows how to placate toxicity by Not encouraging Riling you know rallying people up and putting yourself in the position where you're attacked I basically made a video that said, you know what this is probably not the best idea But yeah people are harassing you the what they want more than anything else is to get a a reaction from you They want to see that what they're doing is bothering you Yeah, it was basically I was basically an article talking about How we should rally around people that are getting harassed in online video games And and basically tell the other person to shut the f up Which obviously if you have one brain cell, you know that that's going to instigate more Wait, it reminds you of like the bully hunters thing even if it worked Like the idea is just like you're only going to make everything worse the idea that you send people into a game You counter grief. It's like, oh, that's Yeah, they don't seem to understand people like trolls like that who do that sort of stuff It is a badge of honor if they get a bully hunter sent after them Yeah, like that's amazing. That's what they're going to try to do I hate to be political but In terms of more of a meta narrative scope It's the same issue with the news You know when there's a god forbid school shooting They posterize the killer Which is what they want they want the attention and what the fame that's the only thing they want When in fact, we should be never mentioning the name of that person. Yeah Not talking about anything, but we should be focusing on the victims but no mainstream media evangelizes Those kinds of anti-heroes to the point where Even on the social media platforms like twitter or whatever it becomes a point of attraction for people like to strive for and that's really unfortunate I think it's surround youtube and being in the sphere of Making content and a lot of people have no idea what it is until it's directed their way because most people are just audiences They don't have any level of personal stake in it. They don't have to worry about someone making a video And you know tens of thousands of people You know having some error of yours or perceived error of yours Or you know kind of put out there Yeah, it's it's a People don't know how to relate to it until it happens to them and eventually a lot of people Just get a thick skin built up maybe Um, oh I have yeah, it's tough to explain to people who haven't had it happen to them Well, the what I always tell people is Who are like mean? Instead of like fighting back with these people. I always say the same thing.  I don't have any investment really and You know, like I have no personal stake in it I can always go to someone else or I can you know laugh at someone or mock them I could chase them around and I can hound them down. It doesn't matter to me Like it's it's not my problem and if something bad happens to them I'll just move on to the next person. It's no biggie. It's just cycle that always happens They've never had that target on their back Yeah, there's no cost to youtube at all anyway It's the people who make the content That are the ones who are the most at risk and the most Invested in everything and they have the most to lose I'd actually love to see like a statistic on I don't know if you could do a poll or or whatever, but You could you could branch it out by type of youtuber or type of content whether they're community driven or Content driven how many of those people are actually happy? I'm not talking about the people who just do it for fun You know, like I don't know if you guys do a full time away But you know the person that just puts out a video every couple months because they love what they do I'm talking about the people who who do it for Basically a necessity, you know sustenance Like are those people happy or not? Yeah, do they feel trapped? I think it would be an interesting at least thought experiments who uh I think one of the issues is that this is kind of a new thing So the data and the numbers just aren't quite there yet because you you tell people Like hey, what do you do for a living? I was like, oh, I make youtube videos I do a podcast online and it's like a new weird foreign thing to them Like people are like, oh, you can get paid for doing that or that's a job That's what you do for a living and I have no idea because it's so new to some people Yeah, I was at um people before kovat And during my job Someone asked me like what I what I do for a hobby and I just so happened to mention that I make youtube videos on the side It's like what? You get money from that? How? Sister's wedding uh distant valley beaver was just like what does that mean review movies? What do you mean? But you make videos like how does that what how can that make money? You talk into a microphone Yeah Yeah, I think as time rolls on and it becomes more and more mainstream to do this sort of thing a streaming podcasting Internet media work becomes more and more just commonplace and understood by people it will I'm curious to see what the psychology data eventually turns back because the people who consume it who watch youtubers Watch the stuff they go through the people who do it themselves We sort of kind of have we we get hunches about You know what it is. We've seen the stories of people going crazy and losing their minds and stuff like that and You think it's driven by their success or lack there of success or I mean, I think so I'm happy to agree. Well, I think some people are trapped into it. Yeah, I mean you have a big with the video Uh, you're the algorithm works in your favor for a while all of a sudden you've got all this attention All of this money's rolling in and the money can be great And you've got you're like a kind of a quasi celebrity essentially But are you equipped to deal with that? Are you equipped to have people find out who you are and where you live? Are you ready to accept the idea that people are going to be watching for all of your mistakes that you ever make and On the internet nothing will ever be forgotten and for a lot of people. That's just not something they can handle No way, so they find success and they don't want to lose the success But at the same time they're just tortured by all the stuff that comes along with it. There's a lot of baggage yeah, and to shine a bright light on a dark painting what I've found recently is you can really garner a great satisfaction from Knowing that people love what you do And it really fills me with joy when I when I read comments and I was like, oh man, you made my day Oh, this is awesome. Do it cool video, man. You You made me feel good I'm like it's a good feeling It's like that is what I'm after these days.  So they're there. Yes, there's like a There's a psychological dark side that we've been droning on about for 30 minutes. That's very depressing But if it wasn't worth it, we wouldn't do it. I was gonna say it's a reality. It's good to talk about it yeah, there's but what I'm trying to say is there's Great things that happen when people come together on youtube and for the first time in my channel since I went down that road I previously discussed.  He shouldn't have been in the hand, but he was whether it's that or A comment you receive on youtube You're always gonna remember that one stinger, you know what I mean And when you get those little blips from people Awesome job, man. This is this is cool. You made my day That washes away A lot of that bad stuff and it becomes a place where Yeah, man. This is cool This this can be cool It makes you feel like it's bigger than yourself, you know When you get an email from someone who says like I was struggling with depression And I even had like suicidal thoughts and I was in a really rough place But watching your content like it really helped me to stay positive and it helped me through a really bad point in my life There's things like that that you're like it makes you think this you know what I do It isn't just me it really does extend to it extends outwards and it's Really kind of humbling in a way. I'll tell you what is a lot my the most Watched video on my channel is a video on video game addiction called the bitter reality of the addiction, but I'll tell you what dude. I received upwards of 10,000 emails In response to to the million people who watched me and the countless people who repeat watch me or whatever I have an email box full of between seven and 10,000 emails I'd say a good 500 of those are deep hugely emotional stories about people And the most dire situations Completely addicted to games They don't know where to turn. They don't know how to get out of it. Some dude. Some of these people are like 10 They email me these novels.   You can't really help someone out To go through that kind of situation you can give them tips But you have to go through that yourself But so many of them were these really wonderfully like redemption style emails of I had this video game addiction.  I lost my wife I have no money But watching your video realized made me realize I have some hope and I always think back to that video when I think about like Why am I doing this on youtube? am I playing games just to write essays so that I can force my opinion down Other people's throats and get them to think exactly how I feel now Like I think about like the notion that this platform can help people it can hurt them and it could aid in the the sickening spread of, you know technology addiction and social media If if people just can't get off the thing But at the end of the road for the right person, even if it's just one person like you can you can help someone and Do that video I think that's the video that I'm most proud of because it pretty much knocks on everything you just said in regards to the the weird society that we live in and the The troubles that you can find yourself in viewer or creator on this platform dude You should be giving ted talks.  That's ever been said on the show You got us captivated.  It's not too bad Well, I mean, I'm really thankful you did I think everyone is What's uh, so for your your videos coming up. I I suppose I think maybe it was asked before Any plans I guess or just kind of seeing where the wind takes you or you're going to experiment with some new things Or kind of keep a common thread going Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I think that some people have Or know that I've returned to full-time work Um different job, but same industry same actually the exact same position ironically So my needs on youtube are not driven financially anymore So everything I put forward on the channel or on my channel going forward is 100 passion It's only what I want to do. It's only the things that are going to make me happy There's been some experimentation um I've got this idea Speaking of food. I've got this idea of creating this Um short series called gamer food And I've got some recipes that I've developed that take unhealthy foods And make them healthy I call them gamer foods because I think gamers should be eating healthy given art Sometimes poor eating habits poor posture and poor nutrition. Yeah, it's not eating Editary nature of video games is typically Yeah, I don't want to stereotype people Um and put people in buckets, but I think Oh, that's just right. I need this series to exist for my health I would be interested in it as well. I could do myself But I'd love to get some insight on that sort of thing. Yeah, so I filmed the first episode and um It just didn't come out the way I wanted it to so I put on a back burner, but I've got these recipes for chocolate cake pancakes rice And I want to do like a short playlist on my channel where you can find like basically a recipe book And you can cook along with me It would be much much less formal than the restaurant style videos with all the sexy food porn slow motion stuff Oh, man, I was I was just about to say we were kind of saying when we watch these videos I was like, man, this is such high stuff that I wonder how approachable it is for the, you know, the average person But if he kind of lowered it down to the rest of our level and did like a gamer cook Yeah, a gamer cooking kind of thing that people could really do with You know more typical stuff. I think there'd be a really big interest in that Potentially because I can't think of anybody else who does it Yeah, I mean that was the original design for the food stuff. Anyway, it was to do something no one else did but um, what I've realized with filming Off of a webcam and on an actual camera in an actual location like a kitchen It's way more challenging than you really think in terms of lighting And cinematography like to shoot A high quality kitchen demo or like a food commercial In an industrial kitchen or a home kitchen. It requires a tremendous amount of work Just moving the damn camera around Tripods, you know the islands in the way you got a reposition lights Is the is the shot a backlit? Is there enough exposure? What's the depth of field? Can I slow motion this shot?  It looks professionally done um With the cameras and the way that it's shot and the way that it's set up Um, I'm like watching your old videos because I found out about you around 2017. I think I One of your first videos that I saw was something about shadow of war I can't remember exactly what it was off the top of my head, but something around there and comparing it to now I mean it takes some serious introspective thinking to really See the flaws in your own work and then Make it better because there's so many people who just Arrogantly think that whatever they're doing is perfect and they don't need to change anything But to see you actually improve your content by light years Is insane You should be extremely proud of all the really hard work that you're clearly putting into your new content Because it's really great. I think I think what drives me is probably what drives every single youtuber You know, I think we like to create our videos and then watch them Is it just me or well? Does that if you work all this time on it and finally Days later you get to watch your creation. It's like, okay cool like this Sitting down to watch the videos like one of the reasons you do it well, I think that applies to the quote-unquote the right kind of youtuber who isn't doing it just for the money who Isn't doing it just because they feel like they're trapped in this job They don't want to do because I think a lot of people once they Make it to where it's viable on youtube. They think that that's the ultimate job to have There's nothing that's better than doing that and so the idea of Stepping back from that and doing something else doesn't even really occur to them as an option Yeah, I'll tell you what man life is YouTube is not the end of the world You know in my opinion the goal of life is to continually self-improve yourself Workouts you're healthy. You can live long enjoy the people around you Share good times with those you love Eat well, you know, don't don't don't grow old and die young and you know people it's a People lose you so there's life beyond youtube and for me, it's based around health and Sharing good times and stuff like that. So Try to reflect out in the videos I make As well as try to you know improve myself I recently did a video on well, it's a pending video on detroit become human. It's a retrospective game I replayed this year and um in 2017 to your point wolf, I probably would have barfed out a Why detroit become human is the worst game ever or why you should hate this game or whatever And I was barfed it out and put it on youtube and that would be the end of that I would have never thought about it again, but I've been working on this video for about 20 20 days off and on I rewrote the entire script, which is rare for me kind of to your point of trying to be the best you can be And it's at this point. It's 22 minutes long It's way longer than I wanted it to be but like I'm proud of it And I think that's really the goal That if you're a youtuber out there, you might not realize this at the time You know, you might be very financially driven all the viewership all the money Eventually that's going to end or it's going to plateau and what you're going to be left with is your own happiness So like now I'm trying to work towards Shit, man. Can I make this video? Like can I make this video worth my viewers time? Like that's the only question right now for me.   Because if the answer is no I'm going back to the drawing board That's what I mean, man. Like you just put everything in really work at it And we're gonna watch like your videos though.  I gotta watch your guys's videos because I gotta learn how to do a long form essay Maybe not 10 hours. Maybe yeah, I was gonna say you could probably start with someone else. I uh, I spent like Pushed up to 30 minutes. All right I think it's weird long video. It means you've got stuff to say and that's not a bad thing However, I am a very like I'm a man of very I don't talk a lot although I seem to be chatting in this particular podcast I don't know why but I'm usually a man of very few words and I'm actually quite the introvert Even though my schooling forced me into Being an extrovert and my current job Requires me to talk to a lot of people Who make a lot of money, but I'm naturally an introvert So like it's very difficult for me to open google drive It's probably different for you rags or moller where You've you've watched or played some piece of content and you see that blinking line Okay, this is where I start. It's very difficult for me to Think about adding more because I've always been a subtraction kind of guy Yes, that makes sense like I like conciseness I like things that come to a natural arc whether it's long or short Sometimes if it's shorter It's it's less bogged down. It's less clumsy But like learning to write longer Is probably a direction I'll start to go in especially with You know some of these upcoming games like like I haven't played the last was part two or cyberpunk 2077 um A simulation game like Detroit control where there is space for you to explore Your ideas because let's be honest. It's not really applicable for a lot of games Action games sure you can tell you can talk about a Call of Duty campaign for a good bit, but Can you talk about a racing game all that in depth not really? so it kind of depends on what games you gravitate towards and In this moment, I seem to be gravitating towards RPGs and adventure games so It might allow me to to expand my ideas beyond my comfort comfort comfort zone as I said before was Conciseness if that makes sense. Yeah, um, I think that Generally, we definitely err on the side of Say it if you we say it if you need to say it don't waste time But sometimes you just have a lot of things to say and sometimes that means Depending on what you're covering. Maybe there is a lot to say about something and Do the topics justice? I suppose if if you're if you're covering something that you think Is owed a lot of an explanation Better to say it all and have it be long instead of not giving people enough If it's too long people can always go back and finish it But if there's not enough then after you finish it, you know, what then it's over make a good point when you say Do the subject material justice, which I think is what clouded my Videos for a long time and it continues to cloud And and really fuck up a lot of people's content on youtube is we're not respecting What we're actually using You know, there's a lot of companies out there. Sure. There's companies out there that put shitty games out but If you're going to be covering a game That people have toiled over sleepless nights You know Yeah, that's a good way to look at it for long for years Like you owe that property the respect just like you owe it to your viewers To do it right whether it's long or short um It's just for me an expert process these days of trying to Figure out how long I want my videos how short I want them, you know It's kind of dependent on every game Well, some people sort of get into the I think they get into the cycle of well, I've just got to crap out this video for this one thing All this game came out. I just got to put out a video all this game came out I just got to put out a video it just needs to get done I got to make a video for it They feel like they do it as an obligation to a schedule Instead of really sitting down and taking the time and being like, okay. This is a game I need to sit down play it absorb it take notes and Because a lot of people like even if you're not a big youtuber and a thousand people watch your video It's like well, maybe you know 10 15 20 100 people out of that, you know, it's 60 dollars to them and that's a lot of money to people So you don't want to you don't want to steer to your people wrong Yeah There's a great divide between high quality content and crap on youtube. Oh, yes, sir It's just it's gotta be honest, man. I'm guilty as charged I put a lot of garbage out on youtube for for a good amount of time probably Probably an entire year Some of my content was garbage like I won't even go back and watch my videos. In fact, I've deleted so many of them but it's like I don't know what you guys are opinion on with coven is and and what what's I don't like it Well, I mean like the anti-coven I don't want to die either but in terms of like youtube it seems like there's This the viewership is being spread thin because a lot more people are coming on I mean, we have brie larson making videos steve curry um movie stars are creating youtube videos these days which Supplied the man can dictate that perhaps unless you have the community to back it up You're going to get a smaller slice of the pie, right which can back to your point push people to to really grasp onto this idea that this is an obligation Because my life depends on it I think which kind of circles back to the point of a lot of garbage on youtube And you have to sift through it if you if you really want to find the good stuff Yeah, sometimes I I definitely feel that way. I feel like to really find the good stuff. There's so much So much of it is just like middle of the road average passable Kind of you know five out of ten stuff It's to find a youtuber that has some real not just passion because there's a lot of passionate youtubers who just aren't good But to find a passionate youtuber who's really good and insightful about things It's not always, you know, it sometimes it feels like a diamond in the rough I know you want to encourage people to support those youtubers who do that. Um System unfortunately has something to say about that rags.  I I was curious. Um, because Like someone was like, oh by the way tfa part three managed to get over a million I was like, oh, I actually wasn't expecting to because I feel like interest in that series might have Weined a bit but I was like, oh, that's cool. And I checked analytics I was like, what is going on then? Like is it still getting rotated? The interesting thing is that was in my top rotation like according to the bot second Was a video that was 20 minutes long that I made like three years ago Where I was responding to someone talking about horror games.  It's why what's going on? They watched that And loads of people have been watching it on my channel commenting and I'm like, I don't I kind of remember what I said in that video What's what's going on? Yeah, the shotgun thumbnail. Yeah.  It was like a rainbow six siege Video highlight video not scripted Just gameplay audio, right? F bomb is thrown out at least 50 times in this video Monetized There's no rules on youtube Copyright strikes and demonetization seem to happen at random Videos are promoted for what reason? Who knows? I don't think they really have the system down youtube. Oh hell no any degree of predictability And I saw a meme video posted just a few days ago from a channel that only has like 2000 subs And it had a million views after a day and it's like It was a funny video But I don't know how the hell it got that many views In such a short amount of time from such a small youtuber YouTube's Fucking broken It is um, I remember I I did a response to angry joe once and I quoted him and his quote was part of the video title And the video got demonetized because of that quote But he was allowed to have that quote said over and over and over in his video And he was monetized There is no it's basically random when people ask me what's the bot like I it's it's indistinguishable from randomness Which is the problem, uh, you just never know you just never know what'll pass and what'll fail And that's and and that's demoralizing when you work really hard on something and then you put it into the system And it's like, uh, you don't get to make this Oh, thanks so much. I was going to say by the way we got um catastrophic and Sophistic autistic made these they they are you tone Wait, what in the uh, it's posted in the chat.  That's you just made this. Oh, these these were sent to me ahead of time. Uh, because I think well everyone was sure you were coming on They all I think they all wanted it. So uh, they drew it, but I can guarantee you Especially after how this is gone that you're gonna be getting, uh, probably a bit of fan art made, uh I didn't know you could come here and do you but there's gonna be some like van go in my way The white Samoury has really, uh, taken over with a lot of the memes Hey bro, let's come and eventually bro white samurai Dude, we'll be watching you better believe I'm doing another one of those trailers Can I by the way the like our favorite quote from you is uh, when you're talking about god of war and You show the bit where uh Kratos is grabbing Poseidon and you describe it as Yeah, I guess clown boy. Where where did that come from dude? Like clown boy.  It's it's like it's everywhere in our community Tongue so naturally Just if anyone says anything to you that you don't like clown That's just drop the clown it's over Can't come back from it It's um It's when you combine certain words and you just blown away by how effective it sounds like a little clown boy It's like oh my god That is wonderful. Wow It's done shut down the topic of asking questions like that. I always wanted to know what's the origin behind the name downward thrust So, yeah, that's a good question I actually explained it to me All right, I explained it to I hope you know Trying late at night one night I made a vlog long time ago Not many people saw but the name was Based off of the down thrust move of zelda 2 So in zelda 2 you had the up strike Ability and you had the down thrust Which you could get I think in one of the dungeons or I think you learn it from like a townsperson or whatever And like that was my favorite move ever because you could like kill enemies Like fucking just boom Little did I know at the time The the move name was down thrust So there I was Starting my youtube channel Figuring the name was downward thrust When it was down thrust So to this day I wish I would have looked it up Because that's not the name of the move I've Downward thrust sounds better And you can totally count for that. You can be like, yeah, I took it and I changed it a little bit Yeah, you can say you did that on purpose. You're fine well I honestly think that it would be just it's a funny little Bit of lore to say like yeah, it came from this. It was a mistake But I think downward thrust honestly sounds better as a name for a youtube channel. Oh, definitely It's probably better to Nintendo not coming after me for copyright or nothing I don't know if they can copyright down thrust, but you never know these days I will let freddo uh drew that one. Is this you in the pokemon universe What's my what okay ask that gentleman. What is my pokemon of choice? That's a question. Surely that would be for you to decide, right? I don't know. No, no, that's for the creator. All right, you hit him Please say arcanine By the way, if any of your If anyone in the chat has a question for me, if you feel feel free Throw them out. Yeah, we can we can do that if you want. Um, I don't know how much time do you have? Uh, I'm probably like half an hour. Let's do it. Let's let's do it. Do you want to? Some q&a keep it on. Do you want to pull questions out of chat yourself or do you want us to just try and find some? Are you good? All right chat. All right. Yeah, get your best questions and posts. We'll see what we can do.  A lot of people are pretty delighted about interstellar Um, I don't know what you mean for various There's reasons but uh, I'm a space junkie Yeah Phenomenal, uh runners up Last samurai anything by van dam blood sport last samurai is great.  All right. Well, I could I mean maybe my girlfriend just broke up with me that day Which is why I was in the theater by myself Oh Which is a which is a I guess a question for you guys too anyone ever You know, we're talking about video game addiction earlier How many girlfriends have you guys lost to video games? Let's just be real Um none Yeah, honestly, uh If if I'm gonna commit with a girlfriend. I'm like she's getting she's getting a lot of time usually Yeah, but I don't see myself I'm not the girlfriend boyfriend type really It's just not sort of my deal the romantic relationship at least currently, you know people change over time but I never saw myself as that kind of person where my personality would mesh with that sort of relationship So I've kept things pretty simple and it always kept my Been upfront about that stuff Just tell us how you really feel mr. Tender But I could see how it could be You know Competing for attention if you do have a problem with you know video games are really any addiction Then I could see how that could be a huge deal to have to I mean It's a terrible sort of thing because like they're designed Day after day to be that to get more players to get more success because it's a Market to thrive and of course, I just it's like we try and separate into like ethical and non-ethical ways of making your game Satisfying to play and thus, you know when it gets a little bit more Deeper down it's like how addictive in the same way that gambling Oh, you guys remember that the uh CSGO gambling that whole thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah that thing that happened.  Sorry. Oh chat Oh, even hitler had his Eva cheer up man.  Yeah Everyone's got something to offer. Yeah Oh, I I guess this is a few questions. I quick one. Um What games you've been playing recently? that you like So I just beat Detroit become human Uh for the second or third time Which I was talking about earlier in terms of the retrospective um I just beat uh splinter cell chaos theory again I missed out on the last of us part two Um, I really want to play that game in 60 frames per second And I know a remaster is coming for the ps5. So Decided to hold back on that. I missed ghost of sashima But currently I'm just playing like really old games Deus Ex mankind divided. I just finished I've been having a lot of real estate Oh, it's a good game But nothing like nothing new I got you. I'm the same way. A lot of the games I play are Not necessarily new just ones I happen to get into and mainstays. I could always go back to all reliables What do you guys been playing? Good question. Um, I I've been playing a killing floor two Uh full guys Guild wars and wanting to try all guys actually Dude, we should uh, we should do a gaming with that. All right. We should do it. Um, I'm down for a co-op sesh Defo, um, oh that would be fun. You said uh, you meant you meant you're interested in playing the last of us two at some point Where you haven't played yet Yeah, the last of us is actually my favorite game of all time and oh man Dude, well, okay. No spoilers anybody. I will love to know what your thoughts are on last of us two when you finish it and I mean I I go into media blackout mode when a game comes out that I'm going to be interested in I read nothing. I I watch no previews I truly believe The magic of a video game experience is you go in and know nothing about it and just be surprised I agree. God damn. Did I see some shit? I'm a lot of people are a lot of people feel a certain way. That's uh, oh my god Did I see some stuff? No nothing no spoilers, but good god the political socialism drama spewing forth from everyone like Count dooku is just I don't Tense man. Yeah It's like am I supposed to be worried at this point? We wouldn't want to say right well, we'll not we'll not say anything you just you want you go in there Dude, I would love if you streamed it by the way. I would watch the shit out of that That would be trance Warframe I feel like I'm a bad streamer I would love to see y'all I this isn't to say I'm not indicative of any direction here I would love to see reactions to certain portions of loss was to it would genuinely be a treasure I have to play it first Oh, maybe I don't know if you'd be willing to like record it offline as you play through it and then Supercalio or something I would watch the show or that just saying Oh, oh someone's asking uh, do you think uh, if last of us two or last of us is big with you Uh, do you think Joel's a beloved character? I would only be able to answer that in the context of the first game Go for yeah, that's all you need. That's that's all you need for uh, what I what I liked What I liked about The last of us was that it was fairly enigmatic in the sense that Joel started off as someone relatable albeit his circumstance Was unreachable at this point, you know zombie apocalypse or whatever daughter gets shot by the guard um But the transitionary arc of his character Was something I fell in love with because he started off fairly prickly towards ellie, right? Yeah, it was cliche in terms of uh, doesn't like her now likes her later, but um The ending of the last of us Was when I started to not like Joel Obviously there were some moments before in the hospital, you know With the decision, you know last of us is the linear game. So you have no choice, right? um Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen hasn't played the game But um the choices he made and and how it was presented on the screen I think that's okay to spoil it for this crowd of ours were yeah, don't worry about that. Yeah Let me just say I like Joel, but then I didn't like Joel That's pretty much the best part really interesting. I mean The causation of What he does, you know his actions the consequence or I guess the better way to put it is The the underlying reasons for why he does what he does at the end of the last of us Is shocking But it's relatable But that doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean that that's the right thing ethically to do and I think gamers play games that They can connect to morally value wise ethics, right? What would what can I connect with in terms of a character? Does this make sense? Can I put myself in that in those shoes? and What what he did at the end of the game disconnected me from that because that's what I I would never have done Really I mean, yeah, it's a fair reaction I could understand it, but It's fucked up Play the second one then we can talk We'll go we can go in depth. We'll talk all about I'll just say that I'll just say no, I don't Like joe as much as I I did when the game started Still still what you consider your favorite game? Yeah, definitely. Um, I remember playing the last of us when I was um I think it was the first year of my grad program and My roommate had just gone out for the night and it was just me it was raining So like the mood was ripe For this kind of game and I put it on I beat the game pretty much in almost in one sitting and it's rare for me to divulge into that kind of behavior because Generally, like I'll pick up a game for an hour or so. I'll put it down kind of guy But for me to plow through that entire experience In that environment, there was just something that happened. I guess in that room late at night I connected to the story for whatever reason Doesn't really matter, but yeah, that's my favorite game for sure Yeah, I think it's a great choice. Uh another question came up. Um, do you have a favorite faction from 40k? Uh, no, I don't play too many warhammer games. Is that Oh, they said based on your icon. So I assumed My icon? Yeah, but they might have been mistaken. I guess or Yeah, what is the icon from the picture right now in my bubble That's a custom drawing that was made for my channel by some chicken kazakhstan actually I Hired some chick on up Upwork, I think it's up work gave her like a hundred dollars. I said I want A guy in a cloak thrusting down With a sword And this is what she drew me. So unfortunately, I don't have uh too much to share about the warhammer universe This is a custom drawing uh, let's see, uh Someone's asking favorite anime Not into man. I'm not into anime Good man. Um I wouldn't even know where to start For all in here seem to Do you have a favorite genre from music? Oh band? um, yeah I Generally listen to two types of music either like really dirty rap or um, what they call finger style guitar, which is the style of guitar I play And that kind of music doesn't have any vocals. So if you kind of want to look it up, you can search like Andy McKee To kind of see what i'm talking about it's basically like a one-man army style on the guitar where You're playing melodies and rhythms and you're slapping The guitar with your hand to create percussion As like an all-encompassing style of playing music and I find it very attractive to listen to So I think those are the two styles for me Pretty uh pretty different Yeah, um What is your workout routine? um, my workout routine is is New because co good and I had to cancel my gym membership Yeah, the cool thing about cove it actually is I started calisthenics, which completely changed my perception of working out Because when I first started working out when I was about 22 I got pretty jacked but I didn't get ripped. I got big and there's a big difference. Um It's funny because looking back I grew up a skinny a skinny kid But when I first started working out I was slamming the bench press, you know, and I was eating 5 000 calories a day and uh Boy, you do not want to know my diet by the way. It was disgusting filled with uh Protein shakes with raw eggs rocky baboa style spaghetti with meatball sandwiches every two hours it was pretty nasty so I got jacked But I wasn't healthy cove in you know years later Took away the gym forming and it pretty much almost kind of like Made me see the light in terms of like doing body weight over weights basically, um What and what do you mean body weight over? so Yeah, so like when you when you go through your life lifting weights you You don't actually train your body to be stronger or More flexible or more or more mobile.  You know, you're pushing the bar you're pulling the bar Cali it's not like lickable strength No, because calisthenics allows you to control weight versus just push weight and it develops like a more lean physique because you have less weight to push around but you're You have to control Not just your body weight, but your own flexibility And you have to be mobile enough To complete some of the moves like let's say a planche or a headstand or a handstand or Like a scap of the push-up for instance So like my routine these days to go back to your question Is is basically like a full-body calisthenics workout three days a week for about 30 minutes focusing on body weight strength flexibility and being mobile because you know gamers Don't exactly have the best hobby to promote good health with our bodies sitting down It's not very good for us. So I mean if I have any advice for like people who want to get into working out who are gamers It's you need you got to get flexible and mobile. So push-ups dips squats lunges L-sits hollow bodies Stuff that's actually going to make you fit and strong and flexible not just The ability to push weight around Way too long winded sorry about that. No, I know it's good advice to have Especially nowadays where a lot of people are inside doubly so But if let's say someone wants to put a set aside Just a little bit of time every day, you know 10 15 minutes or whatever to do a little do a little workout What would you would you say is the best idea for you know gamer? He just wants to put aside a little bit of time every day something that's useful I would say watch my most recent video called how to be a healthy gamer, which has a complete calisthenics Workout shameless plug That you can do I just did you um Do you uh, so you said you're not uh interested in like anime What about just tv shows in general a lot of people are asking if you heard of avatar the last day ben if you watched that No, um, I just got done watching space force, which I thought was fantastic. That's uh, Steve Carell, right? Yeah I haven't watched airbender. Maybe you guys can fill me in on on what it's about. Is it like hardcore anime or is it No, great entry level for like, uh Shows of I don't know. I don't know if it is anime or not. I don't I would say that it's anime. It's certainly it looks like it. It's got a lot of the the tropes of it in there That's the least in the way of it. Yeah Gatekeeping with like oh, it's not really anime because it's not made in japan even though it has everything in common with any other anime it's Pretty much anime. There's almost nothing distinguishable from it and Anything else that you find in typical anime from my experience Yeah, I would love to watch it. I just have such a backlog Stuff since I got netflix like I've been watching the last dance with michael jordan I play in a competitive basketball team.  Yeah, we gotta talk about this before I go That is the perfect summary. It was great until they fucked it up um, I'm not the best person to talk about it, but like game of thrones was phenomenal For seasons upon seasons like what they were able to do with the cinematography and the layering of the The network of the relationships between the characters and the surprise moments the sheer cinematography The acting the music The overarching meta narrative just splicing through all those personal stories I could not pull myself away Like dude, it was that easily to be the greatest tv show of all time If they had just managed to fucking keep it going like the quality they'd set If they had just replaced the writers At what point did it? Turmoil down into a raging fire Uh, you could pick a few points in the final season But um, I really thought when Daenerys Flew over king's landing and killed everybody Completely ruined everything about her character. She's always been established to kill innocent women and children. That's the thing Yeah, that's the origins of her character. She was leading up to the moment where she murdered everyone in the show obviously But like that moment Ruined the greatest show on tv I think my personal moment when I was like, all right I you killed it for me Was uh, when aria killed the night king Well, that'll happen in general, but I mean I was like waiting for john snow to have an actual Fight with the night king and then aria just like boops into existence out of nowhere it stabs him And that's it. Was it just was it just because they wanted that surprise factor? Yeah, they said that they said that nobody was thinking it was going to be aria They said a lot of weird shit as to like justify it and they were and then eventually they started saying like it always made sense Aya was always going to be the one and they show that clip where melisandre says you'll close eyes of all colors like Greed eyes blue eyes. It's like the night king has blue eyes.  It was worse than anything I had experienced ever And my girlfriend and I were sitting on the couch staring aghast I think I had to do cpr honor at some point Did you Well, did you have any comment on their um the formation the fortifications with their armies and uh the castle any any thoughts there? I mean I'm not too terribly Inquisitive when it comes to Did you think it was amazing that they ran the cavalry first into a crowd of zombies? Okay, that's the first super thing about that scene Then they're catapults A third of our army Into the darkness where there are murderers waiting charge It's it's actually baffling because the the way you use cavalry That's like the opposite of how you use cavalry like there's no and they have all like the greatest minds in westeros working together To create like the best plan and then you see that their frontline is trebuchets. Um Not the greatest idea The trebuchets stopped firing After the first volley, I think Which is cool That's exactly what you want to do is have all your archers and trebuchet Stop firing when the enemies are in range Make sense Too late for those trebuchets soon Put one on the front. Yeah, well, so yeah once once uh she stabbed The night king Because I was in a cold wolf washing it and it was like a oh, yeah, we did it. We beat the bad guys and it was like Wait a minute Yeah, when I think about the the the fight between the mountain and the hound Funny Tower that was Melting around them. I feel like I was my investment was thoroughly destroyed at that point anyway So just watching it all happen. It just felt weird like this and funny like takes Kyburn and like breaks his head and throws him on a rock and that's just the end of that whole character. That was so funny like it's It tugs that You know underlying thematic You know the fire scene from the first time we see The hound or whatever, but like good god A little bit over the top Well, I'm glad you liked it Yeah Did you like all the walking in the last episode? Did you like how john snows entire character arc resulted in But I don't want it She's my queen Dude, what do you mean? That was perfect. That was john snow. I've always known He's a dog He's not a leader. He doesn't have his own mind. Wow. Come on All he wants is that uh You know his his aunt Oh, we've got we got a request actually and that's a pretty fair one. Do you guys remember The meme the little potato made In king's landing. Do you remember that shit? I believe I do. Um, it's okay. Wait, hang on carry on a sec. I'll set it up All right, um Yeah, I know when the though I never got into game of thrones until moller dragged me in I think I was his I was his emotional support animal. Yes. Uh, he was very very distraught over what happened And I could certainly see why um I have legitimate sympathy for people who were super invested into that show and then watch that happen that must have been Really rough this with how long it took to get there especially So much investment built up over so long and I think the fact that basically nobody talks about that show anymore Sure is interesting, you know Sure is interesting. Is everyone in I think we're copyright free on this video. I'll do it. Let me I'm ready This is um, I'm popping in now. All right. Here we go. Um before I let it play fully You don't have to understand it it's uh Some of the memes we see from our community.  You'll probably find this amusing I'm not sure that that's inherently that much of a bad thing carol's flat. I mean as a character Is that like a personal attack or something? Again, don't worry. You want to understand a little bit You also have to tell me what these food references with the mcchurros. Is this supposed to be playing the ad? The ad no no no, uh, hang on Yeah, it's it's playing that it's playing the ad for me. Is it up now for you? It's not playing the meme No, let me reload It's supposed to be very it's supposed to be very very confused here Here we go. There it is. Yes, sweet. Okay. I'll just skip you haven't missed anything ever At this point, there's literally no escape That's just pathetic to me.    Oh By the way, can I just say one thing? Yeah Whoever made that 18 minute video Oh, you've seen that about the I watched that and I have to say That was fantastic and you would have made that it was very talented and creative Dude, it's it's what we we could only do as a hollywood level meme video. It's insane. I had no idea Who those people were what was going on? What the heck the mcchicken nuggets were for?   You'll have you have no idea how happy you've just made several of the people Who made that video by the way. I had no idea you'd see that Can I ask why I'm why I'm at me though? Some decision that was reached or The problem is we have so many characters in the efab community to spread across I don't know what the decision-making process was, but Um, you know, do you do you like out man? Do you not or? I'm I like it. I'm just wondering why oh, I don't know I will accept it You like you like some I like Has nobody sent this they wanted me to show this to you they made us about our conversation today Oh, great. It's been five years I I need I need to put this on my thumbnail I think Yeah, I think you had a lot of people, uh, enraptured. Yeah, that's pretty fair to say Um, it's good to talk about this stuff I hope I wasn't too preachy or No This has been in terms of some of the subjects we brought up in terms of efab highlights.   We're gonna have, um, vegan burgers And the kale salad. Um, sorry I asked Hey, man, he's cooking it so Anyway, uh, yeah, it was an absolute honor to to meet you chaps and uh Thanks again for having me the the support for you guys community is awesome. Um I hope we can maybe uh Play a little fall guys at some point. I'll do it. Definitely. I gotta buy the game now just to be in on this Everyone's talking about it. So I guess we'll have to see what's up All right Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on dude. Seriously Yes, thank you so much Made a lot of people days And I won't honestly can I can I suggest sauron can be one of the people you cook for?  I never considered movies. I won't need to get creative. What would you cook for sauron? On the spot right now No, I don't want any spoilers make that video dude. I'll watch the show every time The possibilities of movies Is yeah, I'll just you should do like um a polling system Just see what see what people really want to see who they want to see guest on your show to get uh cooked for Uh, it's a good idea Yeah, man, um, of course take care. Thank you so much for coming on It's been a pleasure and uh, we'll we'll see you again soon. Absolutely. Thanks so much Take care guys. Bye. You too. See you around I feel like I've met jesus So that went well, uh, yeah, that was like The fact that he he when you Were bringing up that little potato video.  Please don't hate us Please don't hate us fact that he loves it That makes me so happy Yeah, like I that is that's great.  You know, we asked ourselves that on e-fap 50 And I think we're going to be okay Oh, no, it wasn't on e-fap 50 though Huh tonal wasn't on e-fap 50 though. You see now we're dealing the stakes have been raised Well, if there's anyone who can raise stakes, it's tonal. Absolutely Um Probably cook steaks too. That's yeah, that is that is the reference that I was making. Yeah Yeah, but you said raise Yeah, raise the stakes. Yeah, you can you could raise them in a cooking thing where the heat is at the top and thus cooks the more Right rags. That's what you're gunning for right Anyways, this the stakes are raised. He's raising the steak Like instead of s t a k e s. Are they racist steaks? Hmm You know, it's weird it's like now what you know Um, well, I'm gonna pee so there you go I'm gonna go and Like that could that could have gone a billion ways and it it was like perfect I was afraid it would not go well just because I was like, oh man, how much does he know? What's he taking from what he does know? But man, that was like possibly the best conversation. I think we've ever had on the e-fap Also, at least from what I've experienced obviously I've only been on like half the episodes if that and yet look We're just actors.  I think I've ever seen in media Oh, yeah um so Do you want to just Ask me the question you're asking me in dms now Oh, well, so either there's two different directions. We can go here, but it really depends on on on how long we got you for I feel weird talking to you and messaging you Anything you could say to wolf you could say in front of me. Oh, no, it's wool. It's I'm so how long we got you for Uh, I mean like I said, I'm not doing anything tomorrow. So Okay, um in that case. Well, so how far in the stream are we one of my one of our Like three and a half hours in Yeah, so that means we still got a while before we hit the the cap, which means I might just bring some people in Um, if it's not good. Yeah, I could come in or whatever you want to do. What? No, no, I don't want you to stay Um, assuming you can stay for the length of this stream To what about when there's two hours left? Uh, we'll do a we'll do just uh, you you you rags and I I think for a little bit, but until then We'll have we'll have some peeps on I assume All right Well, I ordered food and we will see when it gets here. Oh, man. I'm doing that right now I'm gonna I'm getting to the point where I need some munchies. I've been snacking on Nuts and lauribars. So yeah, so if I mute myself and then gone for like 10 to 15 minutes, that's that's why All right rags. You gotta entertain the audience while I saw our