and welcome to the Matrix of Peace show produced by Think Tech Hawaii. I'm your host Phyllis Bles and I'm also the CEO of Peace Through Commerce. Our guest today is calling in from a city very near Tel Aviv in Israel. Her name is Iris Sade Rosler and she is an organizational consultant who works with practical hands-on conscious leadership practices. We are discussing the applied conscious leader practices with an emphasis on resilience, listening and empathy. So with that we'll welcome you Aloha Iris. Shalom Phyllis. Well, thank you. Iris you have had quite a long career as an organizational consultant and I wonder if you could take us back a little bit and tell us what got you into this space and and let us know what you actually, how you define what you think about conscious leadership? Well, I think my purpose is to help leaders be the best versions of themselves, mainly in their working place. We spend many hours, we spend many hours at work all our life, either if we work for someone or we work for ourselves it doesn't really matter and we might as well do the best out of it and when I help the leaders, I noticed during time that I use, well they use their senses and I do too and I help them be the best version of themselves through their senses and we'll talk a little bit about the book I wrote, chapter in UMPATH Youth and one of my first memories is just hanging on the trees, climbing on trees and my legs up and my head down and I try to do it in yoga right now but it doesn't really work but the feeling, the sensation of being upside down, seeing the world upside down, feeling the sun in my eyes and the wind on me, this for me is the feeling that I want to have in my life and I want to help people have the feeling that they want to have in their lives and combine it with the work. I'm hoping that I explain myself well but just ask and I'll answer. Yes well you are, so what I'm hearing is it from a young age and we saw a picture of you out on the ledge from a height you were on in that Israel? Well yeah that is Israel and I put this picture in one of my presentations because I had an interview for an Israeli newspaper a few years back for International Women's Day so the reporter was asking me, inside you, what are you? So I said I'm a facilitator in the Girl Scouts and this is a picture when I was a group facilitator for the Scout in Israel when I was I don't know 16 years old some of my children call me Girl Scouts coach and this is what I do actually. Yes so what I hear and I think there's a story you might be sharing with us that shows up in the book there on the thing that's in Hebrew but that your empathic self or you share that. That's the name of the book. Yeah and what I'm gathering from you is that when you came into the world of business and leadership yourself as an organizational consultant that you have brought along a dimension to leadership training that includes the senses and that that and if you could just let the audience know who are some of these clients of yours and what areas are we looking at as I understand it we're looking at high-level CEOs and across all sectors but tell us about who you're working with if you could bringing a whole different style of coaching into their life. Yeah it's true I came to it by mistake like all good things happen you know because I was I studied leadership and I studied group facilitation and all the regular stuff that you study in university and I did workshops for team building and all kinds of things that well the regular stuff that that is good and then I noticed and this is from writing this chapter in the book when the editor interviewed me for this chapter and I'm just reading just two sentences she asked me what are you doing so I said I'm a mentor and what do you do as a mentor I enable leaders to be the best version of themselves using their senses so and she asked me how do you do it so I said I help them connect to their bodies to their souls and then to their career and purpose I work mostly outdoors and in groups so I noticed that this is what I do and I just wrote it down um so you wanted examples okay yes but yes so you were saying and just before the show got started we were saying that right behind you is one of the places and the spaces that you have done you're consulting and organizational work tell us what are we seeing there well we're seeing a nature resort it's a really big nature resort and it's called a biblical nature resort in Israel it's the only one in Israel I think I was telling one in the world and I do there are many outdoor workshops for leaders mostly governmental leaders like officers in the army officers in the police force but not only municipalities and women we have a really nice women's leadership training over there and what we do is just we do stuff like we can there is a herd of sheep this is the place where the sheep goes so they tried they tried to lead the the sheep and and if you read the bible then you see that most of the leaders the biblical leaders were shepherds and then they became leaders for for people first of all they they studied how to lead the herd and then they studied how to lead the herd of people yes so that's that's what they do and they can't do it they can't lead anything and there are a bunch of people trying to take some I don't know maybe 20 sheep and when when it's a professional shepherd it's one person over maybe 50 or 60 sheep so this is the one but there are a lot of things that we do over there we just do stuff outdoor training now do stuff and then study from it about their own leadership well you know yeah well you know whenever would what you have to say to somebody to lead them matter less than when they're sheep so it was you're you're you've moved into the senses and maybe you could take us there too maybe tell us a little bit about these the senses of leadership and I know you brought your own proprietary work and combined it to other work but let's take a look I think we have a slide here too just give the audience a gestalt of what we'll be covering a little bit today and then you can help us go through a practice so what are we seeing we're seeing all the senses and of course the sixth sense which which I called intuition I took intuition out of the sixth sense but it can it has a lot of stuff in it and I just gathered many many things that are connected to the senses and that can help people improve their leadership it's really hands-on like if we talk about smell it's just for example and as you know we talked about it before smell is the primary sense it's a sense that is very connected even to animals in a good way because it's it senses directly to a place that we were very very young and and and and very not mature in a good way what do I mean like if I ask someone okay what is the first smell that you remember most of the time it will be something from either from his grandmother's house his mother's house flowers in the fields where he grew up so it could be a very very it will it will send him to a very primary place so stop right so stop just a minute because I think you're going to take us through a practice the practice is hands-on and for for those of us who are who are listening to us at home just you can you can pause right now after hearing their instructions and take some time and close your eyes and when you close your eyes imagine feeling a sensation a picture something from your childhood when you felt really good when you felt the best time of your life and feel this moment in your body and then pay attention to the senses pay attention to the smell pay attention to what you're seeing pay attention to what you're hearing pay attention if it feels somewhere in your body and I'm not saying any places because I don't want to give you any ideas pay attention to what you what you feel in in your touch do you feel something touching you and and once you you felt everything about it just open your eyes slowly and write it down for yourself are you going to write it down well I am just because I want I I believe in you and I want and I know I'm going to refer to it later so yes I wrote it down okay so let's let's work with it right now and then go back to to the senses because I think giving an example helps people understand what is it that you when you work with the senses uh so Phyllis do you want to share yes so I grew up in southern California and I think I was happiest at the beach and I and it you took me when I closed my eyes first I could feel the sand I could smell the salt water I can smell that even before the family got to the coastline we could start smelling it coming in through the car even if I wasn't tall enough to see out the windows I'd say oh daddy we're near the beach we're near the beach because I could smell the salt water and then we get there and you know that's just so different barefoot running in the sand plunging into the water and then the water's cold and salty and and the so salt sensation of cold sand and water on my skin uh and then in terms of hearing in addition to the waves which are overwhelming there's I could hear laughter of other children there's some there was such an innocence to what I heard that that calms me to this day somebody did something called it's something hdmr or something mdr there's that yeah it's a it's a kind of post-traumasized thing that's right that's right and I remember they that uh there too hearing children laugh on a beach you don't know them but you're with them that the sort of laughter that you hear coming in a playground or from a beach is so wild and safe and fun it it relaxes my whole body and I felt it in my stomach but I also felt it all over my skin uh and I guess the heat so that's what I'm for me so thank you thank you for um doing this for me with me and for me because it uh the sensation came back to me it's like a boomerang you you give you give it to me and then it it comes back to you uh and and I can see your face and it's your face is so excited right now and emotional in a good way um and and and you were talking about I think all the senses actually and uh and I mean I'm taking you were talking about feeling the sand smelling the uh the beach uh feeling the sun on your face and hearing the the laughter and uh and and and smells and maybe not taste but maybe the taste of salt when you get into the water I'm not sure I don't want to put things in your mouth uh and and and we're giving this example uh of of how you can work with leaders uh talking about senses because once you want to calm yourself and once you want to get into this black balance situation you know what you do you go into water you go to the beach you go to a sunny place you go to places where we're chill where you hear laughter children it's it's easier than we think and and this is working with uh childhood memories which are nice and good but sometimes sometimes it's not even childhood memories it's just other memories or just other sensations that are connected to to the senses and the senses are connected so so uh deeply um and and and you can work with it you can work with it I can give another example it's an example for from a book you want to be very uh tough in a meeting then you touch tough things you go you go barefoot on a ground that is really harsh but if you want to be uh softer then you walk on sand like you said and so this is not me this is researcher actually when when sometimes I bring research to this and uh and and and working with the senses it's it's amazing it's amazing so you know you remind me that visualization what I've heard that uh uh athletes people who are in high competition needs or individual athletes they apparently they visualize themselves going over the high bar or doing the perfect basket and that and I'm sure that is that's been game changing for elite athletes who just get the extra half second in a marathon but or and maybe better than but and if if we went in and touched tasted smelled those those properties in life around us that recreate that event or that image of the future it it wouldn't maybe it engaged all parts of the body to actually be there in the moment and that's I don't think leaders are taught to do that or or even you know somebody trying to pass a test uh walk into the first day of of a job or resign from a job all of those things you want to have it the way you imagine it turning out you could also taste it smell it feel it hear it turning out yeah that sometimes sometimes I ask people most of the time I ask people like I'm asking them to tell me some uh crisis story because this is part of managing your own leadership being a conscious leader so something that happened to you that was a crisis that you overcome through or not whatever and then I ask them I ask them where where did you feel it in your body when you were really in this bad moment where did you feel it in your body so I know for me it's mostly in the stomach when I'm like in a bad place I feel it in the stomach but many people like feel it here they can't breathe right like in this chuck line in in the in their throat or in their shoulders or the back uh but once you know you are aware of or of what happens to you when you get into a bad place then you know that you got into a bad place because you feel it before before you even analyze it early warning system yeah early more early warning system really yes oh and then you're more conscious as a leader because you know even if you didn't think you were triggered you you know you consciously that you have been and therefore you don't you don't lose your sense of self you don't fly off i handle you don't say things you regret you might but but as you said as you were saying this consciousness of the way you're showing up as a leader is different than just showing up as a leader exactly and uh Phyllis and I met through Shakti leadership and we're talking a lot about Shakti leadership and which is well I guess the same as conscious leadership and um being a conscious leader is is first of all what we what we called in Shakti leadership the step in knowing yourself knowing yourself and the step up is being a leader uh so it's I guess it's step in and step up and step out uh doing what you're doing as a leader it's it's all the steps but uh looking at any different way of of consciousness through your own senses um I have another example actually you know what hold your thought because I want to connect the dots here to the matrix of peace oh okay sure sure as a as a peace building problem solving model we are we teach at peace through commerce from this model called the matrix of peace and we'll show you the version of the model so when I had the author of Shakti leadership Neelima Bhatt on the show with me we used this slide and we called it we called the matrix model the soil of peace and we called the people you me those of us who acquire a more conscious way of being in leadership the seeds of peace but the seeds of peace need to have need a safe place to operate and what this model shows is this is a just a of a Venn diagram but it's of a society and in the next slide you can see that as any diagram it's made up of the three basic circles the public private and civil society sectors and in our work we know that to co-create ecosystem peace we need the necessary but sufficient conditions of justice and prosperity and sustainability which is not just green but it's also actions and sustainable relationships in the workplace or at home and we know that in from a societal management standpoint that it takes cooperation of each of the sectors of society working together interrelationally interdisciplinarily to co-create these conditions and when they all three are there then then they support ecosystem peace sustainable peace which is the superordinate intersection of this basic Venn diagram but what we have added and what we're talking about today what so on the next slide we can we show when you have fragile states or very very undeveloped states though they often don't have really healthy operating sectors at all and they need help they need these consciousness values your practices like resilience listening and empathy which is which is go to the heart of what you teach people when people can step into those practices the next slide shows that with the con those are consciousness practices and they move the people from outside sector behavior into into the intersections of justice prosperity and sustainability from a societal modeling standpoint so this whole show it really is focused on your contribution to creating in the world conscious leaders who are accessing resilience listening and empathy and the all six senses to navigate out of sector silo behavior me versus them into intersectionality behavior by reducing their fear reducing their their welfare anger hate I would say managing their fear oh there you go at redo not just really is a good thing but if you manage it yes if you manage it then then you're in charge and it isn't in charge of you and that's managing the anger and managing uh um I don't know frustration as a leader imagine it managing yourself so does this set you up for one more example or do you want is there something I think there is another discipline that you use called the basic pH model I don't know but I don't think uh I don't want to read about it it's uh it's it's too uh it's too fast to talk about it yeah and we did show the slide that people want to stop the show and just look at who who developed it and then they can go look that up because that's important but share it can you share your story in six thirty seconds well it's it's just it's a short example of this leader I've been working with as you know Israel is not in a good situation right now and uh we talk we say that we do a war life balance not work life balance oh this is what we work with people and he tells me that this uh he has a person working for him every time this person goes into the room he just wants to yell at him because I don't know he doesn't they don't they don't match so I tell him where do you feel it so he tells me I feel it here in the in my stomach but not in my stomach connected to my heart okay so I tell him every time you feel it just breathe breathe into it oh and and I think this is a good example because it's it's very human to feel like that I agree oh thank you so much for just leaving that practice with us today we'll have to leave it there and I want to let the audience know that you have been watching The Matrix of Peace show produced by Think Tech Hawaii I'm your host Phyllis Blyse and CEO of Peace Through Commerce we've been discussing applied conscious leadership practices with emphasis on the practices of resilience listening and empathy with our guest Iris Sade Rosler mahalo iris for joining us hello from Israel and mahalo to you our viewers for tuning in aloha


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Welcome to the January update of the season outlook. Some key points to note for the season outlook, bushfire conditions have recently started to increase across Victoria after significant mid-December rains in many areas. The Bureau of Meteorology's three-month outlook is for generally below-average rainfall and above-average temperatures. This is likely to result in significant drying with above-average evaporation rates. Victoria is likely to experience an above-average bushfire season, especially in East Gippsland. So starting by looking at the national context, these plots shake conditions in December compared to the long-term average. The top plot shows daily maximum temperatures were highest on record across large parts of northern and western Australia. Almost all of the continent was warmer or very much warmer than average. The bottom plot shows rainfall totals for December. It shows the area of Cape York Peninsula received the highest rainfall on record for December. The rest of the northern Australia was generally drier than average. Now looking closely at Victoria, we can see December daily maximum temperatures were highest on record for parts of East Gippsland. And overnight, December minimum temperatures were the highest on record for much of the state. Looking at rainfall, the top figure shows December was generally wetter than average in Victoria. The middle figure shows the totals for the three months of October to December were better than average for parts of the Mali and drier than average for most of the south of the state. The bottom figure shows annual rainfall for 2018. Almost the whole state was drier than average. With the recent above-average rainfalls in November and December, not being able to offset the dry winter and spring. Another way to consider rainfall is to look at the cumulative anomaly. This plot shows rainfall by emergency management regions, although the metro regions have all been combined together and labelled Port Phillip. The horizontal axis shows each month of the year and the vertical axis shows the rainfall deficiency in millimetres. On the vertical axis, zero represents average rainfall. The regional rainfalls are represented by the coloured lines on the chart. Where the coloured lines are horizontal, rainfall was average. Where the lines slope downward, below-average rainfall was recorded and where they slope upward, above-average rainfall was recorded. You can see that the Hume region finished the year with about 250 millimetre less rain than average. The modelled soil moisture is a useful indicator when considering flammability of vegetation. This top figure shows the modelled root zone soil moisture, which is the percentage of the top one metre of the soil profile as compared to average for this time of year. It seems to be a useful indicator of relative forest fuel flammability at a landscape scale. The red-brown colours indicate areas that are drier than average and the blue colours indicate wetter than average. During December, root zone soil moisture showed continued drying in the east of Gippsland. It also showed wetting in the north-east and north-west of the state. Note the recent rose-dale fire in Gippsland started and spread through areas of below or very much below-average soil moisture. January and February, typically the fastest drying rates that we'll see for the year due to increased solar radiation, hotter temperatures and less rain. The bottom figure on this slide shows deep soil moisture. This is a percentage of saturation of the soil profile from one metre deep to six metres deep. It probably indicates the underlying dryness that affects deep-rooted vegetation. Now looking at soil moisture again, this is a root zone soil moisture for the Tambo River catchment. It shows all of 2018 for the Tambo River catchment. The black line shows how the root zone soil moisture changed throughout the year. Where it's in the brown and red colours, it indicates conditions were drier than average. The white zone indicates average conditions for that time of year and blue represents wetter than normal. And you can see if you look to the end of the chart, the impact of the rainfall events in late November and mid-December were almost gone by the end of the year. Now onto the climate drivers. And as mentioned in previous updates, two important climate drivers for us are the El Nino Southern Oscillation, often called ENSO and the Indian Ocean Dipole, often called IOD. The ENSO outlook remains at El Nino Alert, suggesting a 70% chance of an El Nino forming in the coming months. The Bureau of Meteorology will update its ENSO outlook on the 8th of January. If El Nino conditions do develop, they're most likely to have a greater effect on the 2019-2020 fire season than this current season. And also, as predicted, the IOD has returned to neutral. The IOD has little effect on the Australian climate at this time of year, and we'll start watching it more closely again after summer. Now to the forecast for rainfall and temperature for the period of January to March. The season outlook produced by the Bureau of Meteorology suggests the chances of exceeding median rainfall is now less than 40% for many parts of the state, which essentially means below average rainfall is likely for the yellow and brown areas on the map at the top of the page. The bottom left map shows daily maximum temperatures are likely to be above average for the January to March period, and the bottom right map shows overnight minimum temperatures are also likely to be above average for that period, particularly in the east of the state. So in summary, last year was generally much drier than average, although most areas receive close to average rainfall in May, November and December. Areas of east Gippsland remain much drier than normal. Hotter than average conditions are likely for the next three months, and so expect rapid drying in January and February if it doesn't rain. And what does that mean for us operationally? Some considerations include the fact that the long-time soil moisture deficit remains in much of east Gippsland. So the threat of large landscape scale fires remains. If normal summer drying occurs throughout Gippsland, the landscape will become increasingly vulnerable to fire starting from dry lightning. Parts of the Upper Snowy River and Grampians currently have very low KBDI values due to recent heavy rains. However, dry open forests in those areas may dry faster and become available to burn well before KBDI and drought factor modelling suggests that they will. The flammability of open dry forests with low drought factors should be considered carefully. The low drought factor values may mean the fire danger index under-represents bushfire potential in those areas. Grassland fire behaviour is generally not affected greatly by summer rainfall. While some areas currently have some green pick emerging, that new growth is generally not enough to moderate fire behaviour, and particularly on bad days. So most of the state has enough dry dead grass to carry fire. So the grass fire threat will be predominantly determined by RH and wind speed. And that's all for this month. If you'd like to know more, get in touch or check the links below. And also please let us know what we can do to make these updates more useful for you. Thank you.


Hi, welcome to my show Friday p.m. My name is Luigi Scarcelli My guest tonight has got a very special memoir that I enjoyed reading quite a bit called the Ghosts of Walter Crockett. He's a state representative. He's also president of Eli soda His name is Ed Crockett and we're gonna sit down and talk to him a little bit about his book So hope you stick with us. Thanks. You grew up in Munjoy Hill in the 1960s 61 correct. Yeah born in 1961 and grew up on Kellogg Street, okay, right at the tip of Munjoy Hill Okay, okay, and what was the neighborhood like in those days? Well, it was quite different from what it is today, okay, and and the primary differences that I noticed won't anything is there were really No cars on the road A lot of the families that lived around Kellogg Street like mine did not have a car So and if the families did have a car it was parked in their one lane driveway So the streets were wide open and frankly the streets were our playground because that's where we played whether it was football or Actually hit tennis against the buildings all these different things and and of course in the early 60s That was the end of the baby boomers So there was a ton of kids right, you know live it up on the hill and of course back then it was it was a low-income neighborhood pretty much everybody there was most were often single-parent households and a lot of kids like I was the youngest of eight and All around us there were you know multiple kids in every house and And the other thing that really struck me was today versus then is I waxed nostalgic and I drive up on the hill all the time because I still live in Portland and You don't see any kids Driving around right and one of the things that struck me the most was when I was growing up on the hill there were six elementary junior high school schools on Monjoy Hill Today there is one and it's an elementary school So the kids are gone and now you can't find a parking spot Right exactly your your life story. I mean what I found really interesting is Really had a dramatic change at a very early age for you I mean it was the age of two when your father left home and it was a very Difficult time for him as well as your mother and you and your siblings And that's really the trajectory of the book. So can you tell me a little bit about that time and really kind of what happened? Yeah, well my dad was a Korean War veteran and After coming home from the war That's when he met my mom and now my mom already had five children from a previous marriage and but they they they struck up a relationship and in 1958 got married They had my brother Walter in 59 my sister Carolyn and 60 and then I came along in 1961 Now unfortunately for my dad. He was he was already an alcoholic You know, we would have we would have considered him an alcoholic today when he was 15 years old Because he was he was running around in bars at 15 and Interesting that they they called it. He had his own cut at most of the bars, which today is a credit card, right? So he you know, he was you know drinking heavily already And then I believe the added responsibility of Three kids on top of five others Probably was was too much for him And so the drinking just got out of control to the point where in 1963 when I was two My mom had to had to kick him out And the biggest reason that that happened because that was a very hard thing to do especially in those days And but my mom had some health problems of her own which limited her, you know employment opportunities and With my dad living with us we would not have qualified for state support, right and So that was it he he left Sadly dearly didn't have anywhere to go and Spent the next 17 years on the streets of Portland Yeah, he was a homeless person on Portland for you'd said that in the book I mean almost 20 years almost 20 years and do you feel like that was I mean that's as you're saying in those days I guess there really wasn't a lot of other Opportunities and you know and he also was afflicted with alcohol addiction. Yes No, there really wasn't the only We called it a flop house back in the day Was on India Street. Okay. That's what they was called the 24-hour club, which is the milestone recovery Center today and it was obviously it was a You know, it might have held 20 to 30 men primarily back in those days and it was you know first come first serve and There were a lot more than 30 people out on the streets so what you know Most of them ended up sleeping in the park or finding cover, you know behind buildings and getting out of the cold and the wind and interestingly enough that the jail was actually a haven Back in the day because if there was room in the jail the the police would would let them sleep it off in a cell and They and they walked out the next morning You know times have changed. That's probably not practical today, but Those are all the different things that was going on back in the 60s and 70s But as you were growing up, you know, you had you know it was a lot of struggle with what I read about was a lot of the struggle of Basically being in poverty. I mean the poor kids thought you were poor, right? That's you were you were right and you struggling to have coats that didn't look like the coats that were from The government issued coats. I mean it was it was a lot of working your way through a lot of that And that's that's very difficult. There's probably a lot of shame involved and just a very difficult thing about being in that circumstance and and Compounded was that you know, your dad was a reminder of that often and what I called from the book that was really Difficult was the time that you talked about when you were in grade school I think you were going to school at Chevrolet at the time as a freshman at Chevrolet Freshman at Chevrolet's waiting for the bus. It was on Munger Hill Washington Avenue area Actually the corner of Lincoln Park corner of Lincoln Park and your dad came upon you and your friends panhandling And so that's the horror of it that oh my god and your friends knew the situation Some did some did but the compounding part that was the most horrific part was that he did not recognize you and He's panhandling from his own son and didn't even recognize you because probably because he was drunk or things like that I mean and he said you ran miles. Yeah, so not that I've already explained a lot of it to you But can you tell me a little bit about how that felt? Yeah, no, I'll Extend a little bit of that story and I won't go there. There are there are a number of Situations where you know the two forces met, you know during during my youth That was one. I won't won't get into all of them because we want people to write actually read the book and buy the book Yeah, I was I was a freshman going to service and this was interesting I too for the time, you know kids that went to the Either Chevrolet McCauley that lived in town Picked up the bus at Lincoln Park Okay, now that sounds pretty reasonable on the on the face of it, but Lincoln Park at that time was where all of the You know the the bums and the transients and the homeless basically lived So it was quite common that as we waited for the bus there would be you know Guys on the benches, you know passed out, you know reeking of alcohol Often panhandling I will give my father credit if he had his Senses in that moment and he recognized Who we were he went the other way, right this particular morning He was he was too far gone, right? and You know was was needing that next drink and panhandling was the way So he was going through the kids and then landed in the group of kids that I was standing with and Pretty sadly looked me right in the eye and asked me for for change. Yeah, and I panicked and I just ran away and I Never can never went back to Lincoln Park to take the bus again, right? That's Before we get too much further in depth about this and we don't want to drive you up too many things Let's take a look at a few photos from your book And then it gives us more context about it growing up in those days And then we'll come back on the other side and we'll talk a little more about your relationship with your dad As you got a little older and and how that evolved that'd be great. Okay. Thanks. We'll be right back We're talking to Ed Crockett about his book the ghost of Walter Crockett. We just saw some photos Got it kind of an understanding of that time I kind of wanted to also touch a little bit on as you got older you went to college you'd worked hard you got into You're at or no undergraduate Boston College for your graduate studies Around that time and you're I think it was your undergraduate studies is when you and your father had that Second chapter you were able to reconcile a little bit with him you talk a bit in the book about the story where? He finds you he knows where you're at school He's working as a custodian up in the Bangor area And he wants to talk to you and before me telling too much about it Can you tell me about that chapter where things restarted a little bit? Yeah, the the real miracle is that after 17 years You know On the streets He was drying out For what proved to be the final time at Togus and while there He met this intern they took a shine to each other and About a year later they were married All of this was News to me, you know, I wasn't aware of any of this because I hadn't actually seen my father Since that incident in Lincoln Park, right when I was 14 so fast forward to my junior year in college and I was in my fraternity house and it was it was April of 1982 and My father showed up at my fraternity house and and He had been two years into sobriety His wife was getting her master's degree in psychology at the University of Maine Yeah, so that's what brought them to Bangor Bangor in area and they actually had settled in an apartment in Orno in Orno so and so he'd been there since September and He finally worked up the you know the the courage to try to re-enter and And that was the start of a 30-year second act and a relationship with his children and You know that was that was You know unimaginable, you know, certainly for me at the time. It was also an incredible blessing I was wise enough not to Totally push him away. I Did not open him with welcome him with open arms initially But over time We were able to You know get to know each other and eventually You love each other It's kind of like a better late than never in a sense, right? It took it took some extra years. I mean that Probably difficult it took it took more time And that was probably more about me because My mom is is my hero, right? you know she sacrificed everything you know for us and She was always going to be first, right? So That was a good built an excuse if you will to keep to keep my dad at arm's length Unleash at least until I was sure that you know This sobriety thing was for real now. What what are your thoughts as a father? Learning all these experiences. I mean is that change who you know who you are as a father to your your children? For sure. I mean I I hope this doesn't sound corny, but Having the experience of you know a terrible parent Turning it around and and redeeming themselves Certainly softened My heart right and and how I looked at things it Luigi really taught me probably the biggest thing I got out of it was it Taught me and helped me understand what forgiveness is all about Because I hated the guy right and I had good reasons, right. I had good reasons and but slowly but surely You know by Accepting, you know the disease and and working hard to have a relationship Made me a better guy and as a result I Think hopefully a better a better parent myself Because I'm much more forgiving I'm probably Maybe sometimes too understanding right right But you know, we certainly talk about it freely because alcohols a beast and If you if you can't be honest and and Direct about it You're probably just the one kidding yourself. Exactly. I did want to mention you are gonna be doing a book signing on December 9th Which is a Thursday at the it's a public book signing at the shipyard Tasting room testing room down on Newberry Street. Okay down in the old port. Yep from 5 to 7 p.m. Okay, and Never done one of these before yeah, so very excited right hopefully a lot of people can get out there and Be happy to sign any and all books. Well, thank you very much for your time this afternoon Thank you for having me. Yeah, I want to thank my guest Ed Crockett his book Ghost of Walter Crockett. It's great. Definitely pick it up My next guests are a band from Bideford called side chick syndicate. They're a lot of fun They're a good funky band. We're gonna hear a song from them and then we're gonna talk to them on the back end So thanks a lot stick with us. Take care I'm right here with the side chick syndicate Chris on vocals. Yep, Rick is on guitar. Yep. We have Brian on bass keyboards and Haley on drums. Is that is that right? Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, tell me a little about your guys origin story So I was in another another band Brian came on board towards the end of that band as a keyboard player And then once that dissolved as bands do We decided we didn't want to stop doing what we're doing So we started up the side chick syndicate Brian came with the name and mostly that just the name started as a Kind of a kind of a joke is so a lot of things that were going on around us at the time And the things that we were seeing and you know We've experienced and every one of us has probably had one or been one or had something that takes you away from your focus You know anything that you've got on the side can be a side chick, you know, so it's almost more metaphorical. It's in a sense Yeah, absolutely and and love is something that's got two sides. It's just like any coin does so it's got its good side It's got a bad side. We just like to shine a light on the bad side sometimes That's kind of where it comes from interesting interesting and so Brian you're you do a lot of the writing of and kind of mixing Tell me a little of that process. Yeah, so um, you know, my influences come from groups like datpunk chromio The high-energy groups and I've always want to have that electronic vibe to it. So it's been fun to experiment You know the two Taylor fit music to a lyric is difficult because we're always trying to find what mood are we trying to portray sonically and So we've gone through so many different versions of songs in the past where I say we put something out there For us to rehearse. I'm gonna say I just not working. We're not really trying projecting the exact Feeling we're trying to have our audience get out of it. And so it's a lot of trial and error I mean what I like about music. It's the opportunity to create doesn't have to be right every single time It's good to have colleagues week to work with say, you know, I like it I don't think of this think of that we work with each other. We bounce ideas off each other So the biggest thing for me is just trying to find the right timbre or color You're trying to get out of the emotion when it comes to words Is there a website to look you guys up social media to find you guys? Yeah, we're available on Facebook Instagram currently building a website as we speak it should be available in the next couple weeks But we're available in YouTube. We have some promo videos and other fun things to find on there Is there a place where we can see you guys next? Where would that be at? Absolutely champion sports bar in Biddeford December 4th 8 p.m. We're gonna be opening up for signal to noise So that promises to be a really really good time. We'd love to see as many people out there as we can Champions December 4th 8 p.m. Biddeford and that's our show. Thank you guys very much. We'll see you later. Take care


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Welcome back to the breakfast on Plos TV Africa. Our first major conversation this morning is about a very shocking incident that has occurred in Kaduna State in Afarka, and that's specifically at the Nigerian Defence Academy. We have reports that bandits attacked the Nigerian Defence Academy, killed some officers, and went ahead to abduct one with sources saying that 200 million naira has currently been demanded as ransom for the release. Let's invite now the PRO of a military veteran. Good morning, thank you for joining us. Good morning, what is the pleasure apart from today? Yes, fantastic. Let's first get your initial reaction to this situation. Lots of newspapers have called it a daring attack. Some have said it's a slap on the face of the military. How do you describe it? Well, it's been a gloomy morning. I was not even in a good position to have said this invitation. You know, the Nigerian Defence Academy is one of the best institutions in Africa where you come to talk about turning out of elite military officers. And it has taken a long time for them before they moved from the one, the location in the cantonment, the Revado cantonment to the new site. You know, and looking at that new site, if you see around the perimeter the also expanse of land being used as farmland by peasants not fully invaded and the access routes to those places, you would expect that there will be an enhanced perimeter defence system. There will be a lot of technological imputes to control and check mates, illicit activities coded and covert entrance access control systems. It's so sad that this is happening to the greatest and the elite institution in Africa. So sad. All right. There is, of course, conversations about this being an inside job or one of the papers even said that it probably was a robbery attack and some of all of that. But Ms Akidew, how much does this really tell with regards where we are concerning security in Nigeria today? The boldness with regards, whoever these people are, to attack the Nigerian Defence Academy bearing in mind that the Nigerian Air Force base is about 16 minutes or less than 20 minutes drive from where they are. What does this say really about these criminal elements in the country today? Okay. I'm going to look at it from two aspects. One of it is the unpreparedness for surprises. Before long time ago, a military officer can sit on a place especially maybe you see an officer drum. Even a policeman that is drum with his weapon civilians don't even touch him. They surround the place. They try to protect him. But the loss of privileges and the militarisation of the civil space, the population has given this lacuna for attacks. And if you look at roadblocks, we have said that there are civilian persons around our roadblocks that help our military passengers to collect money, taxes, levies from vehicles and those are the people that will expose their security. And now our roadblocks have been attacked when you look at the barracks. We have said that our barracks contain a lot of lacunas that could be exploited to attack the personnel. And today we have seen so much of that happening in different parts of the country. Now when we look at it in the aspect of educational institutions, it has been happening around that area. I do not forget that a school in Kaduna within that fair of space was attacked. Is that not enough red flag to tell you that there is darkness and there are possibilities of approaching and accessing the facility. If you look at also what is happening in Kaduna generally, this is that you see at test runs. People will now try to ascribe it as amrobry, kidnapping. I agree with you that there must be an activity, but the purpose is to test run our military to begin to checkmate our opportunities to overrun terrorism. And with this that has happened, if we don't allow heads to roll, especially those that are the hands of attack that are supposed to put mitigating measures in place, then we should be expecting an attack in a high profile institution controlled by the military in the next few times. Okay, so some stakeholders in Nigeria that have been reacting to this, especially the northern elders, have said that the attack on the NDA is just an indication of the failure of Nigeria's intelligence network. Do you say that's the fact? Well, you see, Nigeria's intelligence network or global intelligence network are run on two paraphernellas. One of it is the use of technology data and all that. The other aspect of technology is what we don't understand in Nigeria. You know, we like to buy, we buy from Israel, we buy, we buy so many things for so many countries with padded budgets. But you forget that the manpower aspect, motivating the manpower to handle the technology is very key. Okay, you have CCTV and now you are coming out quickly, so early to say that the soldiers that were supposed to man the CCTV, they went to sleep. When you put CCTV in place, don't you know that the man that you man the CCTV should be appropriately put in a motivated position? Then if you also put CCTV in place, don't you think that there should be panic alarm system, intrusion alarm system in case the human capital fails? So in technology in intelligence, you must have both of them running. Then if I have to generate intelligence, I must have gotten the trust of the people. All the people living around that area, don't they have phones? Don't you know that they relate with the soldiers that work and live in the academy? Nobody picked up their phone to call anybody and say there are suspicious movements and it is coming towards your direction. So if as an academy, are you also telling me that it does not be hope on you to create an outpost for intelligence generation in the Alan surrounding community? You can open a borehole and you can put an ex-military man there to sell water. You can open a kiosk, you can put an ex-military man there to sell cigarettes or whatever. All of these activities will be generated towards tracking suspicious activities around the place, picking information and sending it back for action. Now all those things have not been done and you expect to secure it please. It's so sad. Mr Akidevia, is it that we're not aware of these ideas? Because I've said it repeatedly that we don't lack ideas on how to solve some of the issues bothering us as a country and that includes security. Some of the finest analysts that we've interviewed, including yourself, have shared numerous ideas on what better ways we can do these things. So it's not a lack of ideas. Why do you think we're not doing this? Do you sense lack of sincerity with regards to what we're truly facing and how we truly are handling security in Nigeria? Is there lies that are covering some of all these things and that's maybe why the fight is harder to win? When some of us joined the army, we saw a very robust and disciplined hierarchy of command. If you are a lieutenant today, you pass out of the academy as a second lieutenant, you can predict at what age you will become a major, a colonel, a general. You can, with your performances in your core, if you are in the armored core, engineers, infantry, you can predict what time you can hold a position like a brigade commander, like the chief of army staff, you can keep pointers on XYZ number of officers to say this category of officers will deliver the chief of army staff, the chief of never staff. But when we brought politics into the military, what you have seen now is the play out of internal grudges. People become chief of army staff, chief of defense staff, different positions people hold, and others are retired prematurely. And those ones also have their retinue of followers, patriots, and you expect these people to be loyal to you 100% because you hold powers. You see, we need to look at professionalism in all our agencies, the police, the military, all agencies. They have said so that we can have this command and control and discipline back in space because I can be ready to die for my commander. When I was in service, we are ready to die for the command and for the commander. But right now you see soldiers, officers, they are holding grudges. Why? The officer holding position might not have the retinue of pedigree to hold that position. And because of political influence, all of this has been destabilised. And we need to build back that cohesion and instill the discipline of command and control. Okay. Fantastic points you raised there that will come back to... Breaking news reaching us from the Vanga newspaper confirms that the major that was abducted by bandits at the NDA is dead. We know that two persons were killed in that attack and one was abducted. So the news heard saying that the major abducted by bandits in NDA is dead. So if they never really wanted ransom, what can we say about their motive for that attack? Well, that news came to me also and I await two things now. I want to await the postmortem resource. Now I am predicting that as an officer and in that training institution of the NDA, people sent to the Nigerian Defence Academy as serving officers to either be instructors or official personnel are elites because they need to be an example to the students and the people we are raising. So I can't be a major, a serving major in the Nigerian Army and I will be taking away like a chicken. So I expect that there might have been some scuffles and I expect that there might have been some resistance. And I expect also that the officer knows that so many officers that have been taken, they were giving public execution, which you guys have seen on social media. So I need to wait and let's see a postmortem before we predict what really happened that made that officer to lose his life. OK, so Ms Akidevier, can you go further and share a little bit more on what we still are getting wrong with regards to this fight against insurgency? Is it still a problem with funding? Is it mostly just failure with intelligence gathering? Are there spies that have infiltrated the Nigerian Army? Is it a lot more than meets the eye? Just lack of interest really to defeat insurgency in Nigeria? Well, there are a million things. Like you have said, we have been talking about this thing for maybe the past two or three decades now. You know, there are a million things and the problem I have is that when we begin to see things picking up and they will accumulate to become a multitude of problems, we don't try to solve them easily and quickly. Now, look at the way Nigerian military veterans are treated. Some of us are not even in the appropriate ranking to be fighting for the welfare of veterans. But we find ourselves doing that because so many of our senior colleagues, where we see them living today, they are less than dogs on the streets. And these military veterans that you are looking at, their children are the ones fighting in the warfront, in the front lines. So many senior officers today, they were children of retired military personnel. So many other hands, non-commissioned officers. Their fathers are retired veterans and they have seen the positive of care for the veteran community. We kept shouting, we kept going on posters, we kept sounding the variance and the importance of the value of the veteran community. I am placed now in so many business pletoria. So many veterans have access to so many places in the forest, in the marines, in the creeks, everywhere in Nigeria, in all police areas.  Have you tried to review the importance, the relevance and what you can achieve with implementing a veteran structure that will be commensurate to dynamics of alternative security in Nigeria? Now, if you also look at the procurement system, the procurement system takes a million years from table to table to just buy a small technology that you need. A young man in Nigeria now just made drones and he has been flown out of the country. A drone, like in sequence, can cover that MGA porous area. So we are blinded by distractions. One of the distractions is corruption and corruption having impute in politics. Now, because of corruption having impute in politics, so many people have been manipulated. The intelligentsia, the agencies that should operate away from government to be able to apply protective measures, mitigated measures to the international and global insecurity situation have been calibrated. Now, officers and men are only looking for how to build a house for themselves because if they leave the forest, they are going to be begging one landlord because the pension is temporary. Officers and men are looking for a way to train their children in school. There is no more free education for military personnel. Officers and men are looking for money while in service to take care of their medical care because the medical provided by the Nigerian government does not cover all the necessary elements that a military personnel should seek and find treatment for. So a lot of all of these things have brought down the dignity of the military and the military has a business and right now, everywhere you see soldiers are deployed, you will see them being taken into businesses, they are like fish farming and protecting businesses of other people. It's not fair when you leave a military man in an outpost for more than five years, he's there doing what he has no access to his family, no access to any social life, nothing and it becomes integrated into the community and can be compromised. Then if you look at the promotion system in the police, in the army and all of that, it is getting to who knows who before you can be promoted and deployed professionally. If you look at the recruitment system, in those days people joined by interest, by passion, by patriotism and your local government and your state government gives you a letter to go to the government to join the military. Right now people have been selected, people have been nominated, people have been posted to join the military without appropriate politicians and yet someone in politics, someone in power, someone in position is pushing for those persons to be taken into the military. This is something we've been talking about on the breakfast with other security analysts. They keep talking about how one of the challenges with the Nigerian military is lack of patriotism among these people that are there and how this military opportunities are now basically like a job opportunity for people who need employment, who need a source of livelihood and who have political connections. How do you think we can begin to plug in those holes to fix the structural issues in the Nigerian military? Now if you go to universities, more than five or six also Nigerian universities, they have four years program for criminology and security studies. I have asked myself, why will I do four years studying criminology and security studies if I don't have an interest in it? Now I have asked our agency, can you go to those universities? Can you take the database? Can you send both SMSs, emails to those graduated students and catch an age bracket and ask them to come and apply for XYZ vacancies in any of the agency? You will be getting a front line of people that have a backdrop of academic intelligence and practical intelligence because some of them do their IT and other things in the DSS, in the police, in the military. Now this set of people comes into this profession, they will immediately begin to interrogate all the lacunas that are available. And if you now go back to your local government and say you are looking for people that excel in your work, five years and you are bringing them into the military, you are not asking the local government chairman to give you a list. You are going to the school to see people that are interested that have academic excellence, not doctor's results. All of this will help and we need to look for people that have patriotism. You need to pass through a litmus test to show why you want to join the military. And finally, the government itself must make it attractive. Have you seen the accommodation of the police and the military? Have you seen their take home? Have you seen the welfare of their children? Is it attractive? Then when you leave these services alive, whether disabled or intact, I use something to be looked at and say thank you for your service. We don't have that example. So what we are doing, we are kicking ourselves in the foot and destroying our only protective measure within the military. I want us to now take a look at something else. The NDA, the Nigerian Defense Academy, is the only military university in Nigeria and the first in the whole of Africa. With this attack on the NDA, how much damage do you think it does to the reputation of the institution? Let's look at the traumatic situation. There are a lot of students in the academy that, when they are there for that five years, they see themselves as superhuman. Why? Because to enter into that place, there is a new spirit that falls on you. Even as a student, when you go home for holidays, immediately you are coming back. Once you step into the defense academy, your spirit is renewed and renewed to the ethics and disposition of that personality you now hold as a cadet in the Nigerian defense academy. What do you think will happen to their traumatic states right now? How do you think those students will be feeling that many screants, bandits that we call, terrorists that have become, will now come into the premises and those elite officers that are their instructors start killing them like rats? Their morale right now has been abused. The only way to get them back on foot is to immediately go after these bandits across the country and make a mess of them. It's to immediately refuse to be controlled by any executive order. It is to immediately walk into Zambara, Borno, Bauchi, Bleytu, everywhere in Nigeria, Elu Gubayesai, that you see Banditry and SSC and break it down to his knees.  Ok Davia, now we are at this point. Let's now talk on funding for terrorism and proliferation of weapons. It has also come up a few times as one of the ways that this can also end. If you can cut off their funding, if you can stop, they will block the access to weapons. They obviously aren't making those weapons here in Nigeria and so they are coming in from somewhere. We don't seem to have gathered enough intelligence to have blocked that. The government, the current administration has made mention of people who have so far, they were going to be trying some people for funding terrorism in Nigeria but we still haven't seen any headway with that. How do you think that this can help with the fight against insurgency? How can we be more sincere with blocking funding for terrorism and stopping the access to weapons? I think that the arrest of a certain number of Nigerians, information reaching Nigeria has been translated into positive intelligence and a number of people have been arrested and there is information and evidence that these persons are connected and culpable to financing terrorism in Nigeria. And he didn't stop there, he said there are institutions also that were implicated in the culpability and these institutions have been approached and have been investigated, interrogated and the results will be made public in due time. In due time, this is going to 2022. In due time, what kind of accelerated process do you think a financier of terrorism should have once found beauty, even if there is only a 40%, 20% probability? What kind of body language would the government use to use that as a deterrence against other persons that have been covertly indulging in such activity? You see, when you talk about financiers of terrorism, you are talking about people that make terrorism a business mandate. And every business must pass through registration, every business must have an account, every business must have people working for it, every business must have a business portfolio. What has our agency done? They have found out all the people and the organizations connected to financing terrorism. Now they have sent this information to the Attorney General's Minister of Justice and it is going beyond any activity to take place, to curtail, to curb and to penalize such persons. What else do you want us to say? Those that generate funds from kidnapping, from taxing our farmers to fishing in Nigeria, they pay taxes and all these things amounts to generation of funds. We have mineral resources in Nigeria, in play two and some other places, some bandits are doing illegal mining, some Chinese people were caught, public and paraded on the media for supporting illegal mining and banditry. Where is that case today? What do men was caught in kidnapping, terrorism, illegal mining, drug peddling, soldiers and police exchanged gunfire for what do men? Where is what do men today? There is no accountability. Criminality has now gotten a few days to operate beyond opportunity to mitigate by agencies and providers we have set up to help us have a civil society. It's so sad. So is it then frustrating seeing that from a report that we spoke about yesterday, there was a very subtle amnesty being given to certain former Boko Haram leaders and ISWAP leaders and the likes. And there's also talk about repentant terrorists that the government is seeking forgiveness or who are seeking forgiveness and some of all of that. How does that then make you feel if you have said repeatedly that we need to attack them and then completely destroy whichever every single detail of terrorism in Nigeria. How does it then make you feel seeing that there's reports that Nigerian government is certainly giving amnesty to some of these people and accepting back repentant terrorists? It's only going to encourage those that are perpetrators to go to the extreme in any violence or criminality they are engaging in. So if people come to you that they are repentant, salaries, bandits or whatever, there are enabling processes. We have a criminal justice system. There are so many people that have been held for murder and today they were pardoned and come out from the criminal justice system reintegrate to the society. So no matter the number of persons that come to submit themselves to the government, they should be handed over first to the police, the TSS and the immigration. First, the immigration should find out those that are Nigerians and the laws in Nigeria will be applicable to them. Then they will find out those that are not Nigerians and the law that is applicable to a foreigner coming into Nigeria to perpetrate criminality will be applicable to them. Then you pass them through the judicial process. If there are those that were forced into terrorism, maybe they were taken as kids. So many young children were taken into terrorism. We have seen baby soldiers, terrorist soldiers. Now, if those ones are interrogated, they can be taken through juvenile resortment in a correctional centre. There must be no special treatment. Everybody goes into a correctional centre, comes out from the other side, either you are sentenced to death by defining this against you or you are giving parole or you are forgiving or you learn a trade and come out with a certificate of pardon. So by the time we begin to ascribe special attention, budgeting large chunks of money to this exercise, we are adding to the cankawong that will continue to destroy the precipices of security and peace in Nigeria. Also, I was going to ask you, when we look at the amount of training and skill that these people have, these majors at the NDA have, what then is the fate of a common man? And would you then say this then puts some logic into statement by politicians that we should go ahead and defend ourselves? Ah, that aspect of advisory, I have coined it into community resilience. I have spoken with my friends in the security sector, Konesam Wambu, Abba and Kalimu. All of us have spoken about it and we have agreed that community should be resilient. Resilience means you put together a structure that will first eliminate opportunities from suspicious persons to penetrate. One of the easiest way to penetrate a community in Nigeria is through religion and ethnicity. If I claim I'm a Christian, another Christian who wants to have on me, it will be sympathetic to my flight. If I claim I'm a Muslim, another Muslim who wants to have on me will pray together in the mosque and they don't take time to contain into relevance the purpose why you came into that community. So communities should be resilient. They should form preventive measures for access control for you to be able to live there. Every landlord should have a database of people that come to rents accommodation or flats or rooms from your facility. Communicate to the police that you be co-action, exchanges of intelligence and trust. Agencies you build trust. So why all of this dilapidates? Then you begin to see opportunities to disrupt civil life in that community. So I will only advise that communities should increase their resilience. Come together, look for your retired prisoners. Look for those that served in DSS police army in your community. Those that have professional private security practice experience. Come together, create a resilience and help to protect yourself. That is the way I have drafted it. That is the way so many of us agree in the professional security system. So if you also look at the relationship with agencies, communities should also try to fish out criminal elements in the agency and find a way to monitor them when they enter into your community. Because definitely with your resilience system, within co-action of your retired prisoners, you can be able to intimidate opportunities for them to disrupt your civil space. But what does this attack from yesterday show about their capabilities and what they truly, how dangerous they currently are? Somalia am coming to Nigeria through Sudan, through Niger, through Cameroon, and we don't have a proper monitoring system with our immigration and border control access control system. We don't have data control. We don't have ID cards and numbering system. Our population check is based on the number of votes we want to derive from different communities. So we need to agree that we are facing a well-trained enemy. They have the capacity to operate rocket-propelled grenades. They have the capacity to operate and use air to land and land to air missiles. They have the capacity because a lot of military people also know that we are not safe as fitarees because the only strength of the military is when you are together in a team, either as a platoon, a section, a command, a battalion, a brigade, or a division. Those are your strength lines. But once you are alone in the community of aggressors, it is only your personal skills and your intelligence application that can actually protect you. So for what has happened to those military officers, it's clearly shown that they were outnumbered and they were not in a position to quickly utilize whatever survival skills that we have in our third degree training. So these enemies that we face, they are properly trained, properly equipped, and they are criminality. People come out to complain for them that they are bandit, they are hungry. These are professional killers. People come out to protest against attack on all of these criminal gangs. Now the rival heads man. Now the mayor itself is saying that there are criminals like this. Sultan is saying that they should leave the forest or else if we attack them. So many imams are agreeing now. The Christian, the Muslims now see that criminality is not religion, is not trial. So it is late for us to begin to assess this now. What we mean is the sincerity of government around a certain attack on any criminality and enemy postulation in Nigeria. Roy Okidevia, Military Veteran, PRO Association of Licensed Private Security Professionals in Nigeria. Thank you so much for your time and for your wealth of knowledge this morning. Have a great day, sir. Next stop, we're turning to politics. We touched on this on the papers earlier this morning. It's about the confusion in the People's Democratic Party where it seems that two national chairmen have emerged. Stay with us.