Welcome. Hello. Hello. Hello, everybody. Good afternoon. Good evening. Whatever best is for your time zone. Like this. I can see my picture out there Isabella. Yeah. I love this picture. It's the most recent one that we have from the Young Water Professionals in a conference. I do, right? So I have all the names here. If you can read it, you're already co-host so you can admit some people as soon as they join in. We still have some time. They're joining. So for those that already joined it, I will take this from here so I can move my slides. I will invite you all to go to this link and fill out the survey that we have so you can scan the code and provide some answers. If you're joining from your laptop, so take your phone, scan the code, go to camera, put it on the barcode. I guess everyone else familiar with the QR code.  And all you need to do is just answer the question. Exactly. And feel free to use the chat to present yourself, say where we're from, where are you based, your background on water resources. And wow. Do use the chat to connect. These are the opportunities that I have. And please do meet yourself. If you're not talking. If you're not talking, yes. Sweet, I see some people are already mentioning. What is IRC? If you guys don't mind because I see two people from what? IRC and I have no clue what does that stand for. I think that it's Iran. Is it? Yes. Oh, sweet. Since when Iran has changed and come on guys, I was raised in Iran. Sweet, sweet. That's good. We're having. Yeah. Oh, okay, so it's by the new chapter. That's sweet. Name change to something like probably Islamic Republic of Iran and then I was like, it doesn't make sense. But then is the executive secretary of data and chapter. Oh, sweet, sweet. Nice to meet you. And then we have a second here from the YWP chapter in Saudi Arabia. That we are looking forward to turning to a branded one. Yes. That's amazing. Hey, what's the name? Hello, hello everyone. It's great. And we have a need. I hope that I'm saying that right guys. My apologies for reading your names wrong. Okay. No, that's perfectly fine. It's a need. Okay. And welcome a need from Pakistan. And it is the one with the proposal for the. Finger scrolls for the chapter. Don't worry. Now you got this. Okay, amazing. And then we have Dana. Dennis on Israel. Also, that's nice. That's amazing. Okay, and we have a pitchman from terror. Salute. I was raising terror. I have a heart for them. And for those that already joined it. You can use the chat to connect you can share your social media your LinkedIn profiles feel free to network engage with other young water professionals from the Middle East region. Yep. Okay. So, we have 23 join it and I think they have like some 24. I'm using for what do you think should we start it. Absolutely. Let's go. I will send the link to all of you. So you can keep like sharing and participating the survey so don't worry about you have time to go back to this but you have. We prepare a lot of things for today and we want to make the most with this first dedicated regional call on the Middle East region. So, some information about your moderators today you have me is about it. I'm Isabella spindle. I'm the way membership engagement officer responsible for the young water professionals so yeah it's from me that you receive a lot of questions because I'm the one reviewing all the proposals and giving you all the support. That you needed to carry on the activities with her chapter, and any kind of doubts and question that you have it regarding IWA and how you can become a member and how we can engage with the young water professional. Wow, it's me. And then we have Nietzsche and Farouk. I will pass the floor to both of you. Thank you so much, Isabella at the pillar of young water professional in Italy. Okay, I'm talking already so I'm going to go first. Hello everyone again this is a photo I know most of you can call my name, the, the, the best way that it could be with the, it's Farouk. And for those from Iran, Afghanistan, it's Farouk La Pao. Okay, so I'm sure you guys know it the best, because it is a Persian name. And I am currently the chair of the IWB Young Water Professional Canada and based in Toronto, Canada. And I'm currently also the first time to know this environmental engineer at Brown on Caldwell. And recently just became a doctor so please feel free to call me doctor. At IWB my role is coordinating the chapters and the helping you guys to form the chapters and meet each other, network with each other, or in general just a leading initiative of chapter internationally. And I'm going to be talking more about myself later so I'm going to stop here and pass it on to Nietzsche. Thanks. Hello, hello everyone. My name is Niti and I'm a postdoctoral researcher from India. I'm into molecular biology, and with water I work in wastewater and drinking water micro biology. Very recently I've moved to the US just last month. So I've joined the School of Medicine at the University of Virginia and I'll be doing some bioinformatics work here. And I've been a part of IWA for about four years now and it's been an amazing journey. And it has helped me a lot in my career and about which we'll be sharing in this call further. I also, along with Farouk, am a chapter coordinator and we've been facilitating today like meetings across various regions and have been connecting with the young dynamic water professionals around the world. And I'm very excited for this engagement. I'll just stop speaking there. So, thank you Farouk and thank you Niti for your presentations and introductions are it. So, I know that we are all aware after two years and a half of online engagement about some rules when we are using Zoom. So, when you're not talking please remember to mute yourself. You can leave your camera on if you want to. And the only ones that are going to share this screen. So I don't have to worry about it. I'll post questions in the chat. And as I mentioned before, feel free to share your details, say where are you based, where are you from. And even what you expected with this meeting. And because this is a really good opportunity to connect with other young water professionals in the Middle East. And I hope I really hope that with this meeting, we will create some really good connections with it. This is, I think, the main objective with the original call. So what we prepare for the agenda today, we're having this, we already have this welcome and and little introduction. We prepared some icebreaker activities. And then I'm going to share some information about IWA and the young water professionals community. We'll give some examples from what is a chapter. Her experience is this. And then I'm going to show how we can engage with IWA. And then we have some time with, like, questions and answers for Q&A and open discussions with all the young water professionals. And I know that we have Paxton here that's preparing the proposal. And then we have Data and Chapter here. If you want to have some minutes to share your experience, please do feel free to add this. And then some closing remarks. So without any delay. We have our first activity that we have it. So if you can scan the QR code or go to this link here. I will also share in the chat. So just the first one. It's here. Yeah, the right in the chat. And I'm going to stop sharing this and go to the other slides. And see what we have. So just go into the image and just tag where you're based at now. I love these dots. Look at the diversity. We have people almost from all the countries. Isabella, how does it show? So if, like, let's say more people are from one country, does the circle get bigger? I think that's going to have more circles. A lot of bubbles up here on this thing. Okay, okay. I see some countries are getting just, you know, head and the zone. Which is amazing. Yeah, it is. Oh, this is nice. We have Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Pakistan, Afghanistan. Yes, Jordan, Syria. And if you're for a citizen of the world, you can just. Just put a dot I guess on the white area. Exactly. So we know and we get back to you guys. I want to be special. For example, myself, I'm presenting two countries. I've been Canadian. I needed a dot in Canada. But I have a dot in Afghanistan. So still, I'm there. So that's good. That's the same from my side. I wouldn't like one in Brazil and another in Italy and maybe now one in the UK. True. Yeah, we are citizens of the world. I was about to say that. So let me go to the second question that we have. And as you're waiting, feel free again to rename yourself with adding your country beside your name. Where are you from? Are you talking? Okay. Yeah, and that goes to myself as well. Oh, it's not allowing me to move. Yeah. So the second question that we have for you is what is your interest in this event? So what do you expect what you're looking for? Are we allowed to put few words or one word is a below or a sentence? As much as you want it. Okay, I'm going to copy paste my thesis because I just have lots of it for that. Maybe you can share the link to this. Sure, I was kidding. I'm going to bore you with that. It's the same link, right? Yeah, it's the same link. Okay, sweet. So someone already replied that he wants to connect with young water professionals. He's region. Nice. So Zacharia, can you reply in the link with the manchimeter? So we can have your answer in the screen that I'm sharing. Oh, sharing our goals, creating new chapters. Great. I think many of us are coming here with similar goals to create a new chapter to see how it works. And we are receiving some in the chat. So connecting with young water professionals and share water science, contributing, developing water science by disconnection, connecting with young water professionals. So yeah, I think that the objectives are good and supply synergy to promote a young water professional. That's good. Yeah. Okay, so I will stop sharing this one and we can go to the other ones. I have the link. Yeah, I was looking for the link. And can you share your screen, because you're the one with the. Yeah. And the question is, can you see my screen guys? Yes, it's loading. Right. This loading issue used to be back in Afghanistan where we used to go on the mountain to get signal. A long time ago. In USA, you shouldn't have this problem. So what do we have in terms of questions now is what do you expect as a young water professional. We have 22 young water professionals here. What do you expect it as a young water professional in general, not only with this meeting because you already replied to that. I guess it could apply from your country on the challenges you have with whether you're struggling with anything. Sorry, is it the same link? You provide the answer. It's the link that I need to just share it in the chat. It's a new link. And I know challenges are a lot, but what do we expect? Professionalism of course. We want growth, we want connectivity. I love these words. That's good. So feel free to have multiple replies. I think you could type in three replies per person. So if you have more ideas. And you can, I just realized that you can put as many words as you want. But we're going to be backtracking. Who's going to put what? Okay, so don't put silly things. I needed to say that because once I did this in my class for my student, I know my God, I saw something that I'm like, really? Okay, I need to turn on the backtracking. Dealing with water security and solving crisis. Absolutely. That's really good. I will add this here. I see Isabella Nieti that grows is in the middle. Like everyone is just, we want to grow. Learning opportunities, solving crisis, engagement, empower, work together and to work in connective knowledge transfer. That's really good. Nature, I think that we can go to the second question. I need to take a picture because this is very beautiful. Ah, yeah. For sure. Thank you. We are recording the meeting so you can also go back and see it and like we can get the results and share with all the participants. That would be great. Thank you. You're welcome. So the next slide, Isabella, do I just go enter next? Yeah, you play next one. Can you try moving the slide because. Yeah, let me, I'm in the presenting mode so. So yes, just. Yeah, I'll just load the second slide. Okay. Oh, and by the way, if you add on Twitter, remember to follow IWA on Twitter, I will send the link here and if you want to post something related to to the original call today, remember to tag us. Okay, sweet. So, the last question is what is the gap that you want to fill as a young water professional. We're aware that everyone's challenges is are different in their country. And we want to know here that what do you think is the biggest gap in the water sector in your region. And you have a passion for it to fill it. So we're talking about challenges here. Oh my God. Yeah, it's just, it's touching my nerve. These words, especially the gender bias. I, I agree. The climate change, the water governance. Yes. Yeah, adopting innovation. I love that one conflict resolution. Yeah, so many times we come up with all these innovative ideas but then adopting them. It's a huge challenge. Accessibility. Oh my God. Yeah, that's that's a great word. Yeah. There is a lot of awareness around gender equality as well. It's really good. And Zacharia mentioned in the chat, the gap between Seiki Holder and best governance. That's really good. And again, we see a common gap between all of us, although probably geographically we're located in different places, but, but the gaps and challenges that we're all looking forward to fill is the same. It's, yeah. Accessibility is a huge challenge in Middle Eastern country. And another part of the world, it depends, but, but I was raised in Middle East and I know that this, this is a huge challenge that young professionals need to work on. That's really good. So, another resource planning best practice innovation adoption. That's good. Thank you everyone for providing your inputs here. It will help us a lot to identify how we can connect it with the young water professionals in the Middle East and how we can propose activities focus on these issues that you highlighted to us so thank you very much for this. So, let's go back with our presentation. Thank you, nature. Presentation slides. Yes. Shet is here, participants are here and my presentation is here. Perfect. So, I know that some of you already know what is I w a what w stands for and what we aim to do as a network association. So, one of the things that I went to highlight is that I w a, we went to be, and we are already a source of knowledge, and focus on water solutions. The 2030 agenda. And we are working with the young water professionals to create this movement is transformation focus on innovation process acknowledge sharing and highlighting the best practice that we have in the water sector. And when I mean the best practice is not only is not it was sent back solutions is global solution so take into consideration the challenges that each of the regions are facing, and how we can improve it and created is a, these solutions for the region. And yeah we went to empower youth to contribute to sustainable water management is this part of our vision. And we want to connect the young water professionals. Highlighting how they can develop their profession and creating opportunities and gauging, then we've not only young water professional but also seniors and different stakeholders in the water sector and recognizing or the work that they are doing for the water sector. And as I mentioned the young water professors they are part of I w a structure this is just an image to explain how they fit in our structure. So we have the I w a board, and you have the national level and the international level in the national level, we have the country chapters. So, for example, Farouk is the member of the Canada and water professional chapter, and Nietzsche is a member of the India chapter. And then in the international level, we have the steering committee, and both needed they are a member of the current steering committee. So they represent all the young water professionals is international level. And here, I'm the secretary at my role is to connect all the community all the young water professionals that are part of I w a, not only with the chapters like creating new chapters, or for example, I am, I have a young water professional for Argentina and he wants to connect with the chapter that we have there so he reached out to me and I do the introductions. And the other, the other way that I do this connection issue to receive all the demands from the young water professional and I passed them to the steering committee. And our community of the young water professionals, what we want to do with this community issue engage them in the water sector and to empower them as a young water professional. So this means creating opportunities but also ways that they can enhance their capacities by learning and learning with their peers and other professionals from the water sector. And we do have a lot of chapters around the word so here are the some of the branded chapters that we have it. And the branded chapters, they are the ones that receive at most of the support from either by secretary yet. And we gave them a lot of engagement and exposure, and also professional development terms of this. One of the things that, since the pandemic ended, is that we are trying to have our young water professionals engaging not only in international forums in this international arena but also in local forums. So this is one of some of the photos from our recently engagement in the international arena. I was the head of the delegation from the way and we went to the show me so yes I was in touch extend to three weeks ago with Jacob and Emily they are part of the, they're also part of the steering committee of the young water professionals. And Farouk was able to join us virtually during the youth and children photo. So we are there not only representing IWA, IWA objectives and in nation, but also we are there as youth in this high level panel so it is really important that as we are representing this considerable amount of young water professionals we are also tending this photo and taking to consider the race and then passing all their their inputs in this international arena. Farouk, I will head over to you so you can share your personal. Thank you so much. Okay, are you are you still sharing this screen. Yeah, okay. Sounds great. So, I'm going to be talking about my career journey at IWA site, and also I'll be talking about the Canadian chapter and how we have created it and what the challenges opportunities and everything. For some reason I cannot see the slides Isabella. So I hope that it is there. Is it the chapter display? Yeah, but at least for me, they want to share this. Oh yes, now I see it. Now I see it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. It was on my end too to look at it. So, so yeah, so just to start out where did I start it guys. So, for for money of us getting into a new association is very challenging and like oh my god okay what am I going to do I'm going to look awkward I'm going to look, you know that I don't know stuff and, and I don't even know what to do right. And it's for all of us. So it started for me like that as well I started with volunteering in the local conferences. So there was the international young water professional conference came to Canada and I started volunteering and I was like okay how about I read your media so I took the camera and take, and taking some pictures and doing things that I was comfortable with right, which is talking. And I went and talked to some people took some interviews, and that's how I started my journey with IDP. And eventually I said, I saw that oh my god I'm liking this you know to get engaged with people and get making networks. I met so many great people, and it's all about just having the right people around you. And we got together, and we put a small proposal which yeah when you hear proposal is not like your PhD proposal or or your work proposal. It was just a simple couple of pages document and don't worry about it that was a proposal if you haven't seen it. And, and we initiated the young water professional chapter in Canada. So that was in 2019 that went through this process, myself and few of other young professionals in Canada. And, and I'm happy that I became the chair of the chapter or because president which is a fancy name. And it really influenced in my career, a lot that I was able to, you know, just make, you know strengthen my leadership leadership skills to the extent that you wouldn't imagine that I could lead so many things, and then pandemic had and I was able to, you know, just get self confidence to talk virtually with you guys like this right and without fear and. So there was just so much that I learned by doing this, and then further after that it was like, Oh my God this is so nice but I want to even go further to international level. And that's when I considered applying and becoming part of the emerging water leaders steering committee, which is the like the committee that manages young water professional internationally and Isabella just mentioned to that.  So you want to convey their voice. And I was lucky that I got selected, elected sorry for the steering committee and right now I'm here because of that because I'm the chapter coordinator. So the engagement started with very short level, we're very low level and very minimal volunteering, and then eventually to the national and international level and who God knows what's going to be next. So we'll see that but all what I'm saying it this is an example for you guys to see, you don't have to perfect and it's not end of the world and it's very easy process if I could do it with all other things that I had with my PhD with my work, and, and, and family. I'm sure you guys can do it as well. So it's very, very easy and inspiring to get engaged and you get a lot of this. Can you can really go to next slide. So, so now I talked about myself personally that why, as a person as a young word professionals you should step into this and how I benefited but I also want to talk about our Canadian chapters and, and to give you a good example of what you're going to be up and what you're going to be having in future if you decided to have a chapter. So, in, in, in our wide WP Canada, we initiated so many events that engage and connect that so many young weather professional in Canada from coast to coast and, and most of you must know that. Canada is a big country right and we have, we don't have big population our population is similar to Afghanistan, it's like the 35 million people, but it's a big country so connecting people is a hustle, geographically. And we initiated many conferences workshops and webinars that gathered the people brought them together and made an impact. We had also international events that we easily connected with the people from Europe, Asia, and, and all the other countries, and we could initiate collaborations internationally that doesn't really also been there doesn't only benefit you in your volunteering life but also in your career so many people got jobs from from these connections so many people came up with the work collaboration of opportunities so there was just lots of opportunities and networking happening in there. And on the other side that we also had great executives and people who grow a lot. So when I showed my career journey to you guys wasn't only me. So many people who came to volunteer for our chapter. Eventually they become they became board members and now even their internet chat international level leading Congress and conferences and, and they just got to know that. Oh my god there is an association, a chapter that welcome us, no matter how little we know, no matter how much support we have. And the main goal of the chapter was to just empower young weather professionals and take their hand and teach them how to be leaders. And I should mention that guys that trust me in our work, no matter how much we're perfect right. We're going to get a job later and we're going to be perfect in industry and technical the soft skills are very important and not always we get that during our professional work where we get that to a voluntary and in Canadian chapter, we have learned that and we have trained so many people in Canada to become leaders and we're so just proud of that. So this was a great example for you guys and if you have any further question about how to create a chapter how to run a chapter how to start something and and how to make connections collaborations. I'm always there to answer your questions and and take your hand and go with you and and do all the great great things together because I have a heart for middle school because I was raised there of course in the I belong there. So, so please feel free to reach out if you have any question about getting involved and engage. Okay, thank you, Isabella, you can go next. Thank you for it. So let me move back here. So, um, we show you some of the examples how the young water professions they are connected from the international arena to the local arena. We have like Farouk saying and sharing her experience and how she developed her capacities and abilities as a young water professional. So this is something that IWA does for all the young water professionals that are part of that. So the ways that you can engage with us as a young water professionals are via the chapters, or being a member of the government members committee that they are the one that are representing IWA in their country. It should participate in the IWA young water professional group that we have an IWA connect and sign up for the newsletter. Be part of the steering committee that we had it engage in organizing committees of events. I do send a lot of emails with opportunities with volunteers. We volunteer opportunities to be part of organizing committees to attend workshops and webinars and to connect with senior professionals via the SG's and other affiliate programs. And most of this I share via the newsletter. So you have my contact there. Yeah, you have the link to the IWA connect and the page on IWA network that explained how the young water professions commission works. And we also have a group on Facebook and on LinkedIn. So they're like the main ways that you can reach out. And if you have any questions, any comments and if you decide that you want to start a chapter in your country or you want to know if you already have a chapter, you can reach out to me. And some of the questions that I've received that are that are important to share it's that it's that. Okay, it's not because like I'm Brazil that I'm from Brazil I can only be part of the young water professional chapter in Brazil. Paru can also give you this example she's a she's from Africa in some places part of the chapter in Canada. So if you're studying a different country, or if you're living abroad, you can also get engaged with the chapter that we have there. So there are a lot of ways to connect and to be part of it. So now we are open to discussions to Q&A. And as I mentioned, we have the Pakistan that are doing the proposal so if I need questions to share his experience. Feel free and we also have been from the Eden chapter. So we have two examples of our one is already established chapter and the other one is starting the chapter now. So the floor is yours so let me stop sharing here. Hello guys hello everyone. You all are doing great. And I am very much excited to finally see Dr. Isabella, who might have been you know, texting a lot of emails throughout the day throughout the night, sending greetings all the way from Pakistan. But yeah, if you guys really want any kind of support, like I have never ever been disappointed, despite of my busy schedule as a research assistant and an adjunct faculty member in one of the universities over here. Things get a bit, you know, delayed in the course, but take your time, put your efforts in. And I was literally surprised when Isabella found out some valuable points and returned with the comments. That is something I mean, no one does that. So Eva is some some place where you would really like to go. And then finally we are on the stage we are just on the verge of starting a full list Pakistan chapter. And with the help of all the fellow members over here, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. I see a lot of them over here and I really want to get in touch with all of you guys and really lead the road and and make it a two way transfer between all of us. I don't know if, if, if I come in the meaner region but I'll just call that extended meaner region, because Niti and me are in the South Asian region so. But still, I would really love to connect with all of the people out there and would, and would really be looking forward for sharing any of the proceedings that we have been doing in Pakistan. In terms of the accessibility issue, which is a very big issue. The water management issue the gender issue the gender bias because the women are left to, you know, take care about the water to fetch the water from the wheels in third Rajasthan, you name it. And that's equal for the Middle East region also. So, we'll be just more than happy to you know get the things out there to you and would expect a lot more from all of the meaner fellow countries and chapters as well. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk here, and I leave them my to Iran. Thank you, Nick. I can talk. Everybody else is looking. Hello everybody. I am thrilled to meet you here on this platform. As I mentioned before, I'm a water engineer from Afghanistan and now based in the Netherlands. Master degrees in this sector. I have worked in Afghanistan over the last 10 years with different international organizations on the United Nations. So what I can understand from where I left them have a working experience in Afghanistan is that water issue is not like a local issue. It's a regional issue and it needs a regional solution. And I think it's the best platform here to get together and work for the prosperity of our nation. So Afghanistan, as you know, we have like share water resources with the neighboring countries, because all those came to push last year, located in the central part of Afghanistan, and then water flowing to the neighboring countries. Obviously we had some issues with Iran over the Helmand and some other river basins. So that means that water is very important in this region. Some part of our industry, which is also called Kabul River Basin in the upstream starts from Afghanistan. It's a good way that the water professionals get together here. And like how can we make this inclusive for the governments that we start from here and then engage the government and then come to a solution because you know what that it's not just about drinking and living. It's a scarce source and the climate and it's getting more precious and conflicted. So at the same time, it gives us a chance to get together, bringing the nations together, at least move toward peace and development at the same time. I would be happy to participate and if I can provide any support to any group, I would be happy. Yeah, thanks. Thank you. I just wanted to mention something that I do agree with the law and I think that yeah we have lots of regional issues and a lot of political issues. We're all here as citizens just to forget about those political issues and come together because we don't want those and we're here to just develop our countries and to work for the best and be the voice of the youth. So by creating these chapters, you will be the voice of the youth and the youth. And I think from this call what our purpose was to facilitate you with asking the question of how can I do this, right? If you have a chapter already, you might ask how do I start this? And if you don't have yet, you might ask what's the very first step? Where should I start? So these are the type of the thing that you want to go home and we want you to go home with knowing the answer for this. And yeah, leaving that there for you to think about it and make your question accordingly. Muhammad, you have a question. Hi everybody. So my name is Haroon. I'm sorry I didn't change the Zoom title. I'm based in the UAE. And so I've been in touch with some of the guys from IWF for a while now, but this is a nice place to specifically ask about chapters and stuff. So when you say starting a chapter, does that mean there have to be, I mean, I don't even know of the first step. Do they have to have enough members in this country to start a chapter? Or what's like the prerequisite before we even get there, right? Okay, so this is easy. So basically, we need your engagement and your availability to carry on the tasks with the chapter. We have two types of chapters. We have a branded chapter and a non-branded chapter. The branded chapters are the one that receives the support, the logo and the accessibility to all the activities with IWA. So Nietzsche and Farouk, they are part of a branded chapter. And Nietzsche's proposal is for a branded chapter. And Pesman Franjiren is a branded chapter. This means that they have at least three members being IWA members. So if you want to be three. So if you want to be a branded chapter, your chapter needs at least three members with IWA membership. And if they have the membership, this means that they will be also the ones that are able to vote for the steering committee. We only remember that I mentioned in the beginning that we have the international part that the steering committee represents. So if you want to be part of the steering committee or if you want to vote for another member, we just get the elections like one month ago.  And if you want to start the chapter, the first thing that you have to do is send me an email saying I went to start the chapter. I have some colleagues that they are really keen to be part of this. And then I will go over step by step on what kind of document that you needed the proposal that you need to submit it to us and all the documents that we need from you. Okay, and so the YWP age limit is 35, is it? Yeah, it's 35 that we have. It's the age limit. Okay. And we hate to say that. People feel awkward, especially myself. Yeah, we do have this age limit and we know that other countries they have different ones. But for a WA, young water professors are until 35. So you see, Mohammed, sorry, I forgot your name. It was Haroun. It's Haroun. It was, it's pretty easy. We started the Kenyan chapter with three members as well. And now we're probably about at least 25 members that who just who are IDP members. But they'll, and we do have like 2000 people following us and signing up for our newsletter. So it's very easy. Just, you got, you need three people to be willing to put efforts and get the membership. That's it. All right. So, after this meeting, like, I think you said Isabella that if you want to take this discussion further we get in touch with you through email, right? Yes. Yes, I can type my mail in the chat so you can send me. And if you don't have, if you don't know any other colleagues that want to be part of a WA, I can reach out to members from WA in your country and see if they are also keen to to start a chapter with you. Okay. So your chapter, do you have like a set of activities you do through the year or. Yes, so with the proposal that you have to submit in, you have to inform what kind of activity, and how we are going to contribute with WA vision. So your chapter, when she focus on webinars on capacity building activities on engaging with other chapters, everything you have to put in the proposal, and I'm going to review it and add some comments and and see what it can work, and especially in terms of the timeline. So, every year, the chapter they have to submit it the work plan and the report from the activities this is the main commitment that they have to do with us. So, in January I start sending a mail show the chapter saying you have until usually March to send the work plan and the report. The work plan is what you're planning for the week for the year, and the report is related to the activities that you carried out in the previous year. Okay. Okay, so we have. I guess that's it for me for now and probably I'll get in touch with you again. Okay, so we have. Yeah, I just wanted to ask a little bit more about, you know, the branded versus non branded I already like understood what branded a branded chapter is but I didn't catch. What did you say about like a non branded chapter. Non branded chapter they are usually restricted to our university ones. They are not IWA members they don't have access to the logo because all the chapters that we have if IWA they have their own logos that they use it for for their events so they are really like the partners with IWA if you're non branded. You don't have the same support from the secretariat. And you support that I have. It's almost known for us so they don't they are not allowed to use the logos. They can just mention that they that they are non branded IWA chapter. That's why we don't recommend that if you want to start the chapter that you start as a non branded. We suggest that you start as a branded one, because you have access to more of the proteins for example if we have a call for, if you are a professional to join organizing committee, but the audience will be given to the chapters that are branded. So, this is a bit random but why would somebody go for the non branded if you guys recommend a branded one. Just from your experience. Yeah, sometimes they don't have the financial needs to pay the membership. That's that's the main that's the main issue. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. So do we have any other questions because we are almost running out of time. Okay, just one question like the information regarding this brand the chapters and all that it is it. If there is any possibility to share like a written documents that you can also share with other people who are interested. All the information is available on my IWA website that I shared the link here, but you can also send me an email and I can go over the steps with you. Okay, thank you. Sorry, I just have one more question. That's fine. Because like the part of the like the thought on the map at the very time. I was wondering.  To be honest, I was thinking of the same thing. So, sorry. You can continue. I'm kind of saying so instead of me trying to find like three people in Qatar, maybe it can be three people from the DCC or three people from the MENA region and then it's going to be like a MENA chapter instead of like a Qatari chapter. There's also this possibility of creating regional chapters. It's not easy. Because if you already have a chapter created in the region, the regional chapter would need to get involved with with the chapter so we can also incorporate the activities that are being carried out. So we are in discussions of creating a regional chapter in Latin American Caribbean. But to do this, we have to get all the chapters that are already formed in Latin American Caribbean to be part of this chapter. And this means getting approval from all the government members. And having a kind of similarity with all the proposals from each of the chapter. So, it is a lot of work. Sometimes they have different interests in their aiming for different things. Great. Thank you. You're welcome. So as we are running out of time as usual with our having that all of our events we with young water professions we run off time because we have a lot to discuss and things that we want to share and definitely want to connect with you. So talking about opportunities. Some of you might already know but we are organizing the award water Congress and exhibition. It's going to be on Denmark and Copenhagen and the early bid registration ends today. And I do recommend that you take part into this conference. If you're available to do because during the Congress. We are organizing. Part of the blade is the main conference is the main international conference for young water professionals. It's called the emerging water leaders forum. And this is the day that we discuss all the things. And we have exclusive photo for young water professional. This is the time that you have to connect in person with other chapters and share your insights and perspectives with them. And for we can each are also helping me to organize this this forum. And yeah we are quite excited with it because it's the first in person meeting that we have after two years with the pandemic. You can imagine how we are preparing a lot of things. And if you want to be a member from IWA or if you want to renew your membership. You can use the discount code and you have 20% of discount. And this is the website that you have to go to to join the network. And thank you. I will share the slides on the same page that you register so you can use the same link also to access the recording from today. Yeah, all the links will be shared so no worries. Okay is the bullet do you want to take a screenshot so turn on your cameras okay yeah. So let me get mine here and everyone looks great except me you know why because it's early morning is I haven't had even breakfast I barely just. And this is not fair. Okay, got one. Perfect. Did you take some from your side. No I didn't I was talking the whole time. Yeah. Okay I can't take it the Isabella. Yes. I'm gonna just smile you take it again. Yeah. Okay sweet. So thank you everyone for. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for sharing this screenshot from today. In the presentation slide so we also have access to it via the presentation. Okay. Yeah, feel free to stick around for a couple of more minutes to share your LinkedIn in the chat. Thank you so much for your connections here and make sure that you know who are the young water professionals around you in Middle East. So feel free to do that right now, we're going to leave the link open for probably three four minutes. Yeah, so you can connect with each other. And thank you everyone for coming. Yeah, if you need to leave you can leave thank you very much. Thanks everyone. Very nice to meet you all, and we'll keep connected or LinkedIn. You're smiling too. Thank you. Thank you for organizing this. Hello, Nithi. Nice to speak with you. Sure. Yeah, this is the most second from Italy. Actually, I'm studying cost King of the University of Science and Technology in Southern India. So I'm here in India. So I was thinking to know more about India chapter. So how I can get more information about that. Sure. I will quickly type my email and let's connect there.


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Welcome to dealing with materials data, in this course we are going to look at how to collect, analyze and interpret materials data and this is the first module, this is the module for introduction to the R programming language and we have been working with R in the past few sessions and we have been looking at how to enter data into R and then work with it, manipulated, plotted and so on and so forth. So, in this session we are going to learn how to import data into R. So, data input can be done into R like we learnt earlier by typing it in the R console, but sometimes that is not the best way to enter data into R and in those cases we can import from other sources. This becomes important because sometimes the data for example might be already in digital form, you might have done an experiment and the data comes and it is stored in the computer in digital form and so you want to take the data and work with it and you do not want to be manually entering all the data and sometimes the data could be very big, so manual entry is time consuming also it is prone to errors. So, the most reliable and easy method to enter data from such sources is the CSV file format. CSV stands for comma separated value and you can take the data which is generated and stored in other formats into CSV using either Excel or using LibreOffice or any other commercial software for example and we will use CSV file import extensively. Again there is an optimization point which is that reading and writing CSV files might be costlier, it might be easier and much more faster to use F read and F write, this again is an optimization point regarding the R programming which we are going to not discuss in this course, but it is better to be aware and if you do anything at much larger scale and you find that the speed of execution becomes a bottleneck for you, I think these are some of the places where you should look and improve your code. So, in these tutorials we are not going to discuss code optimization and efficiency, if possible I will indicate, but we will not do too much of it. So we are going to now consider the elements data and I have saved it as a CSV file and we are going to import and plot using ggplot2, up to this we have done, but what has not been done is that can we save the plot as a PDF file, so that is also something that we are going to learn in this session. So we are going to look at CSV file data and we are going to import it into R and we are going to use ggplot2 to plot it and then we are going to save the data, the plot that we made using ggplot as a PDF file. So that is the exercise and saving plot as a PDF file is rather straightforward, so you have to say that you want to save as a PDF file and you have to tell where and what is the name of the PDF file and then you can give all your plot commands and then after that is complete you switch off this device that PDF you close, so that you can get back to your regular console to look at the plots. So that is what we are going to do in this session, so I am going to start by showing you the elements.csv. So like I said it is CSV files can be opened in Libraphis, so I do not know if the data is very clear, so let us let all inform our text, do not know how to increase the size. So this is how the data looks like, so it is the same data, element, console structure, density, melting point and the elements are listed 5 FCC, 5 BCC and 5 HCP. So this is the data and it is stored as elements.csv. So what we are going to do is to first import data into R and for doing that, so I need to know which directory I am there, so I need to see, so now I am dealing with materials data, so I need to import the data, the way we import is as follows. So I am going to say read into this variable x or elements, read.csv, so that is a command from where, from the data directory and which file elements.csv. So it has read as you can see x is 15 observations of 4 variables. So we now know that we have got the right data, so it is the same element, crystal structure, density, melting point. Now let us do the plotting, here we go. So we invoke the library ggplot2 and we say x is the data and the aesthetics is x is density, y is melting point, color should be according to crystal structure and we change the x limit and y limit and the geometry is point. So you can see several layers I am building, so this is the first one, then the next layer is for the x range, next layer is for the y range, next layer is for the plot points, the geometry of the plotting and then the next layer is for the label and label is again from x data using the element information and this is how the label is put, so this we now are comfortable with. So we have it, the density versus melting point and you can see all the BCC, FCC, HCP etc are colored differently and the points and the writing everything is in the corresponding color, so you can get the plot. Now we want to save this file, so for saving it what do we do, we are going to, so I need to know if there is a directory called figures here, so let me see, there is no directory called figures, so it is better to make a directory called figures here, so now I am going to save, so I am going to say PDF equal to, so figures is the directory where I want to save this figure, so it is elements data, so let us say elements data dot PDF, let us say that is the PDF file, so that is the PDF, we are going to say this is the PDF file we want to generate, now we are going to put this command like we did earlier, so we are going to say, so this is the and then we are going to say start off, so I have to give, so now let us go check if we have made this figure, yes there is this PDF file that is available now and you can open it and you can see that the figure is right, so we can, so you can see density versus melting point and all the data points and differently colored, so everything is nicely now stored as a PDF file, so which you can then use for other purposes, so this is how the saving is done and so this is to import data and to plot data, we will have some more exercises in importing and plotting data in the next session, thank you.


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And it's 2 32 p.m. So can we bring this meeting to order? Please do. All right. Okay. And I'll leave it to the next. Jamie, you're muted. Okay. Good. Okay. So our chair, that's your D. You get to. Yeah. So the first order of business is to approve the, the minutes. And we're going to look at, that's why I was trying to look at the reporting. September 27th. And can I interject for a second on, on the agenda? I put public comment first. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's okay. Look at it because. Yeah. I am juggling here. Okay. Just three things. It was public comment approval of minutes. And then any other topics. So it's just those three things. Okay. Cause I do see we do have an attendee sharing sherry's in attendance. So. Do I. You're going to let them speak. I'm, I'm assuming I'm looking for my agenda. Yeah, I can do that. If they want to speak. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear very well. Yeah, D literally, it's just number one, public comment, number two, approval of the four sets of minutes. And then the last is any other topics that, you know, did not come up with in 24 or 48 hours. That email was different from the panelists email. I'm sorry. I'm just. No, I don't think I sent that email. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Meeting. Oh, it's the post. Okay. All right. Yeah. The meeting agenda that got posted. Yep. The only thing that I. Change in this is like an election as a chair. And this is, um, Jacqueline Wagner. And I. Don't remember. I remember talking about. I don't know if I should, but I'm not sure if that's what, what it was. I can't put my name there for that. Because I remember bringing it up. I don't know if I should put my name there. Excuse me. Well, no, I thought Sherry Sherry was speaking or was going to speak. No, we're. Um, the first item on our agenda is public comment. So we should open the floor to anybody that wants to speak. I was just mentioning who's in the attendance. Oh, I thought you said she had her hand up to. No. No, I know, but we do have public comment first. So we should open the floor in case she wants to speak. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to take you off Jack. I was just. Since there was someone when she opened it up. I assumed I could speak. So does the public want to speak. Or have. I'm looking. I don't see, I don't see her hand raised. Okay. Okay. So sorry, Jacqueline. Like I said. On the election of the chair, but Jacqueline Wagner. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure if it's either me or Jamie, but you can change that. So September 27th. Okay. Hold on one second. I have, let me open that document and share it. Cause I think I did make changes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So let me just get that and share the screen. So that's why I was trying to, to listen to the recording because. Jacqueline, I believe you brought it up and then Jamie. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as far as I'm saying, I don't, I don't really remember, but I did make a part of it. So I'm okay with that. Put my name on it. Yeah, just so it's reflected. It should be reflected accurately. But yeah, that's why when I went looking for the. It was nowhere to be found. All right. So do you see the September 27th minutes? Oh yeah. Okay. So let me just, let me see. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I'm on second one page. And get bigger. Whoops. All right. So where do we, where are we talking? Okay. So here. On four. If you go down to where four is. Yeah. Jamie Wagner. Both Jamie and Jackie Gardner. Okay. And then. Oh, there you are. Okay. Right there. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Let me save that. Okay. Whether any other things in here. I'll start back up. The same and four. Same for off back to four. Okay. Yeah. So we're underneath the paragraph there where there's motion. And then Jamie Wagner Wagner felt. Then there's Demetrius Shabazz felt. So there's one, two, three. Four. Okay. I got my cursor on it. Three and Shabazz felt the town clerk should be separate from the board of registrars and not service chair. Susan Audette concurred. So. And that's why I was looking up the, the recording because it was more of a conversation Sue. Where you offered that you had recently been to the board of registrars. And then you also offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerks. And that. The town clerk usually did not serve as chair. So. Was it the state meeting? Mass town clerk association. Yeah. Yeah. And that there was a discussion about. Who should serve as chair. Within the board of registrars. And then you also. Offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerk. And then you also offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerk. Which I usually did not service chair. So it just seems. You know, that Dimitri is Shabazz is suggesting this. And you're concurring, but it doesn't offer the evidence as to why. I got it. Yeah. So I just wanted the, it to reflect that as the evidence as to why, which I'm going to, I'll word it nicely and put that in there. So that we don't, you know, have to go through whoever serves in this role. Basically I'm TCA notes. Okay. Got it. Okay. And then my reading of the rest of them. Was fine. Of the rest of that one. Jamie, do you have anything to offer in terms of the minutes? No, I just. I had really just that one to Jacqueline Wagner thing stuck out to me also, but that's already been fixed, but I didn't have anything else that seemed. Like it warranted changing or adding to. Well, um, Sue. That was it. Okay. Well, someone needs to make a motion. Right. I moved to. I moved to approve the minutes as amended for the Monday, September 27th. Meeting. Okay. Jackie, you want to second it? Um, you can second it. Oh, okay. It's offering. Um, so I second. Um, everyone. Uh, Let's see. So I second it. And we all are in favor. Yes. Hi. Okay. Um, I think that's it. It's approved. Okay. Jackie, you want to second it? Um, you can second it. Oh, okay. It's offering. Um, so I second. Um, everyone. It's approved. We have to do a roll call vote, but, um, because it's soon. Yes. D. Uh, it says yay. Jamie. Yay. Okay. Jackie. Yeah. Yeah. So. And me too. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So that's that set. All right. Let me get the next one up on the screen. And save it and close it. Okay. Okay. And can we all see this one? Yes. Okay. Good. So my, my only question on this one was, I mean, I wasn't at this meeting, so I really can't speak to anything in it, but are we, it has with everybody's name and addresses. Is that like. Just standard. Okay. To have been just a general public minutes or, I mean, it's public knowledge anyways, or. I mean, it just seems a lot of information there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see the ballots belonging to, um, it is public information because that is what's on the voter list. And people can look at the voter list. It's nothing that's, um, right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause we checked those people off the voter list for their appropriate precincts based on their addresses. All right. And it was read out loud when we were doing it. So. But other for me, otherwise I don't have, I mean, I don't have any information about the voter list. So I, I don't know if it was there. I don't know if it was there. So I really can't say anything about him. Yeah. Also, I will add at this one. I noticed doesn't have the footer for the board of registrars approved on the state. And I'll just add, I'll add the footer. Are there any corrections to be made for November 8th? Oh, I can make a motion to approve the minutes with Sue's addition of that footer. To the November 8th. 2021 minutes. Okay. I didn't know if Jackie was still looking.  I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Okay. Then Jamie, you want to make that motion? Sure. I moved to accept the minutes from November 8th, 2021 with Sue's addition of the footer. For the approval line. Yeah. I'll second that one. All right. It's been seconded all in favor. I. So Jackie's I. Jamie. I. I and D is I. And Sue. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get the next one up. That would be 1115. The only thing I really noted on this one was D did show up. I don't know. I don't know. Partway through. So I don't know if she should be into. The members president. Did she show up after we had handled the business? So it was still considering her absent. Good question. Yeah. Meeting hadn't been adjourned. As. No. I don't mind it reflecting that I was late and missed the vote, but the meeting had not. Okay. Yeah, that's a good question. I think I started, you know, no worries. Yep. Let's fix that. And there we go. Yeah. And it reflects that I arrived. Okay. Any other corrections. For additions. I don't have any on my end. Jackie. I don't have any either. Right. I. Sorry. Sorry. This one has to have a footer as well. Sorry. This is just, you know, administrative stuff. Yeah. So is the template changed or something? Or it was just. Trying to keep up. Don't always use a template. Oh, okay. Yeah. It depends on, this is a short, sweet little thing. So I just typed it. Oh, okay. Sometimes it's harder to work with something that pre exists and make it work before matting. You know what I'm saying? So. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Okay. I make a motion to accept the minutes. As amended from the November 15, 2021 meeting. Okay. I second it. Okay. Everyone's in favor. Yes. Okay. Jackie's I Jamie's I, I am I. And I am. I. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me save this one. And the last one. I just want to say this is the last set of minutes. However, we'll have today's set of minutes, which I can read to you all and we can approve them. And that way we've gotten. We're completely up to date. Okay. Yeah. All right. This one's long. Yeah. And hold on one second. I have to put a footer on that one too. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. Yes. I'm ready. Scroll a little bit. Yes. Yes. Okay. Start top page two. Time to scroll again. Sure. Yes. Okay. Okay. I do have one question about the Evan Ross. You have 473. And then in the thing that was written, it's 474. So up here, total talent. So. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I've got, yeah. Recount results and then election night results. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Jackie, I see I misspelled your name over here. I just noticed it. Okay. Oh my goodness. I'm not going to take it personally. I know. I type fast. Sometimes I miss things or I added extra things. I just. Yeah. When I was doing medical transcription, I had so many shortcut keys. I would type like three letters and it would spell out the whole. Yeah. 25 letter word. I got to get more of those going. So now when you finish reading. I'm all set. Jamie on my end. Jackie. I'm all set too. But I do have one question though, in regards to. Where these numbers for the seals, they were like verified there and where they verified again. I just want to make sure that the numbers are. Correct. That's all I guess I'm asking. I read them out loud when we put them on and wrote them down. So. Okay. Okay. That was it. Yeah. All right. At this point we've passed the 30 day retention anyway, and that's all been. That's true. You know, so. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. So anyone wants to make a motion for approval. I'm making a motion to approve the November 23rd. 2021 meeting minutes. I second that. Okay. Jackie. Hi. Hi. And D is I sue. Hi. Okay. All right. So the current, this meeting's minutes. Board of registrars December 14th, 2021. And then we started on the approval of four sets of minutes. And not including this one. The minutes of 927. Jackie Wagner. Made a motion to approve as amended. D Shebaugh seconded. Vote was. Unanimous. By roll call. And then the minutes of November 8th. And then we started on the approval of four sets of minutes and not including this one. The minutes of 927. Jackie Wagner. And then the minutes of November 8th. We voted, let's see, Jackie Wagner moved to approve as amended by. The amendment would be adding a footer. I mean, Jamie, Jamie. I said Jackie. Oh my God. I did. Sorry. Sorry. I've got, I'm using JWJG and DS. Right at all.  Sorry. So the first one was a Jamie made the move. Motion to approve the second one. Jamie made the motion to approve. And Jackie seconded and vote was. Unanimous by roll call. November 15th minutes. We voted. Jamie made a motion to approve as amended by adding the footer. D seconded that one. Voted all in favor. It was unanimous by roll call. And then November 23rd. Jackie. Made a motion to approve. And. To approve. As amended and Jamie seconded it. And we voted all in favor favor unanimously. So that's what I have for. Minutes. With the exception of, of course, when the, this meeting will close. So our adjourn. I move to. The minutes from today's meeting is to just read to us. I second. Okay. No matter. All right. All in favor. Hi. Okay. Jackie, Jamie say, hi. Hi. Sue. Hi. All right. All right. Hold on. Unanimous. Okay. Okay. All right. And then the last thing on our agenda is. Sorry.  Sorry. Well, since I can't find the. Agenda on the town hall website. You know, I don't know why you have to go through calendar. Yeah. Logical. Okay. So I didn't go through calendar. I looked up board of registrar, so it just doesn't. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So anyway. Is it public open again to public comment or. No, actually it was any other topics. That we may want to bring up. I don't have. Yeah. When we're meeting again. Once. You're muted, Jamie. Sorry, I was talking to my daughter. Okay. For the following year. When we will meet again, one of the things I would, like I said, I would like to do is. Make the board of registrars like an FAQ. So folks kind of understand what happens during an election. You know, and particularly post election. So, you know, leading up to election post election. And they have a clear sense of procedure. So that's something that I don't think a meeting would have to be called maybe to approve it for every, you know, for the board of registrars to represent us as a whole. But. So that's my suggestion. Yeah, we had talked about that at the meeting where we were counting the ballot. So yeah, January is a nice. Quiet month. We can, we can just email each other and. You know, unless everybody wants to. Way in on it, but. We'll go for. The same name of vote on, on that particular thing. Because I think that it, again, it could cause like a lot of confusion. And also a lot of times too, do you want like the. The council to like look over what we have or what's the process going to be? Because it seems like. We're sort of like stepping into the territory of the election department. I don't know what that's going to be. But. I don't know what that's going to be. I think it's going to be a lot of jurisdiction. So personally, I wouldn't be in favor of it. But I'd have to see what, what you're talking about too. Because a lot of times this stuff has already been like Q and aid. They got a lot of stuff on the election sites and maybe even meeting somebody with the election department and asking what their opinions are. And that kind of thing before just barging ahead and. Getting something that could blow up in our faces. So basically these are all part of not only election law, but the bylaws and we're simply putting it into an FAQ. She to put on the website. And this is what I'm saying. Somebody else should be looking at it and they may already be something already out and available that can be already put there. And that's what I'm talking about. Because I don't want any conflicts between what's already out there and what we're putting out there. Well, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want that either. Okay. What I'm saying is that we create something comprehensive. And streamline that people could reference. Quickly and easily. And. You know, that's something that would have to be of course. Looked at.  But if necessary. You know, election officials as well. And then we would. Again, I'm suggesting as our own procedure. Is that we would look at it together. Call a meeting to look at it together. And have a consensus. Yeah. Well, I have a dissenting vote on that. And also when you're looking at the types of things of what the, but the purpose of the board of registers and things like that. Doesn't really address those kinds of things either. Like we're responsible for putting out. You know, stuff. Because again, to me, you're infringing on the election department's toes on this one. So it's really to represent what the board of registrars does. Okay. Well, if you all want to do it, fine, but I'm not. I'm not in favor of it. Well, why don't we, why don't we sit down and meet and come up with something and see what we're thinking of and see if it's, it's something that's actually helpful to the public. It sounds like the whole purpose of doing something like this is to bring awareness to post-election tasks. And that's something that our office does. So maybe we could do that for something together and then come together as a board and either say, yeah, this is a good thing. Or I don't see how this is helpful. Yeah, before we do anything further with it. You know, I'm all for the education as well. And this is. It's not an education. I felt that someone said that last time and that's not what I was talking about. And we're talking about that as far as like to me as far as like the confusion, conflict, and no one mentioned bringing it before the town council. No one mentioned about going into the, the department of elections. It sounded like it was something that oh, this sounds like it's a good idea. Let's do it. But there was no background on how it was going to be done, what the process is, and whether or not it's going to be in conflict with any of the current laws that are there. Yeah, no, this is, this is obviously new. So, um, we, again, I'm out. I'm out. So one of the real quick one of the things that I've been looking at and it's since the redistricting group met and Sue was part of that group. I was part of that group. Um, Peggy Shannon, who was part of that group had contacted Mindy Dom. And we've all been in conversation about how to educate particularly not only the public so that they have a sense of trust for some, because some don't, you know, and I think that's, you know, I think Sue had even stated it's part of a national issue, but it's also part of a local issue. And so having clarity in terms of process would help with that. And Mindy Dom and I and some others are going to begin figuring out groups to work with on college campuses, particularly UMass, and how to educate young people about the election process. So I see this in personally as an extension of some of the community work I've committed to. So, you know, again, whether it's a good idea or not, I think having transparency, educating, you know, folks on the process is a positive thing, no matter what. And again, I'm not disputing the issue of transparency or education. I just think that was a slippery slope that we're going up right now, because no one will ever really trust the government. That's for sure. We know it's interesting is before every election I do put out a fact I did before this election. And just there are so many things to cover, you know, one fact is not a cover all. And the one I did was on how to get absentee ballots and how to vote early and all that portion and that went on the town website. And, you know, this is on the state there are the information's out there in multi places and I know what you're saying you don't want to be putting it out on your own place and it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, quoting something wrong on the state level on the local level so I know that's we got to be careful with that but also, and like you said to if you can point to people to the state level, and they can find it easy enough, that's great too but I think people just tend to go on the town website and want to look for it there and not have to dig further. So, um, one of the things though, if you do go on to the election department website is fantastic. If you can the states, I know. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, everything that's there. So I think people don't know where to go. You know, I think people don't know where to even start though, but this is what when I was getting ready to say to you can make like some cross links or references to where to look for these ideas that I will object to but some of this other stuff is like this That's, that's already done. That's done. It's already on our town website. Yeah, this link to get the information on this click this link to get the that's done. So I think identifying what we're trying to come up with and if it's already done in piecemeal maybe we can pull something together one place to make it work concise. Comprehensive or people could read it and certainly look for further information. I think if we, you know, not to say I'm just saying anecdotally survey folks or talk to folks in the town. We're going to go on the town website and look for this information and are frustrated like I was looking for the recorded video and then found some breaks in the links, you know, which I then contacted Angela Mills, you know, at town hall to let her know about it. Since the break in those links had to do with Amherst media, which is a group I'm affiliated with. So folks often don't have the time or are just going to complain because they they they're not finding what they need easily. And I just think on our end, since we are part of this group, if we could help add to the ease of, you know, information finding, particularly to our committee and our group that that would be useful. So if you're willing to meet with me, Sue, and we come up with, you know, something streamlined, even when it refers to the state laws. I'd be willing to do that. And then like I said, we could present something to our group so that it would represent those who want to participate in this process. Yeah, I'll send you an email in January after the holidays are over and we can set something up. Okay, any other items to discuss? I don't have anything. Okay, well, happy Kwanzaa happy holidays and see you all next year I'll look for your email Sue. And I guess we just need to have someone make a motion to end the meeting. I moved to adjourn today's meeting. Jackie, did you want a second. I thought you were, you were making the motion and Jamie was seconded. Oh, well no, I, that's, that's how I was. Okay, I'm making a suggestion that you're making a suggestion to make the motion. I got confused. So a second the motion, or you're seconding that Jamie whichever one you want to put Sue. I was in favor of leaving. I, I, I am in favor so okay. So if it's roll call I as well Jamie. Hi, Jackie. Alrighty. All right. Happy holidays everybody. See you on the flip side. Okay. Okay.


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