Thank you very much All right, so Mabel Kisawa Asafo We'll be presenting sickle cell management in pregnancy the role of the midwife in a teaching hospital Kumasi She is a nurse midwife specialist regional health director at Ghana Health Service a shanti Ghana All right Mabel All right. Yeah, that's it I have the handle Okay Right. Thank you very much. I'm very grateful to be here with you To present to you on the topic management Sorry sickle cell management in pregnancy the role of the midwife in a teaching hospital in Kumasi Yeah, we'll be looking at these outline for the presentation A bit objective research methods findings and conclusions Yeah sickle cell disease it's a mostly A disease that is common worldwide a genetic disease that is affecting a lot of population in the whole world and it has really Affected a lot of people formally it used to be known as a black disease but now Think the slice are just Moving from one place to the other need to go back Okay And Mabel if you'd like help with your slides, I'm happy to move them for you If you want to if you can see them well, and you're not comfortable moving them You could just say if you want me to move them. I'm happy to do that for you Okay, I think I'm on the introduction slide, but it has jammed to the objective Okay, so do you want me to just quickly move them back to the introduction slide? Okay Yes, please Okay, would you like this slide or this one? This is the methodology. What I see is the methodology. Okay, we've got on showing at the moment is introduction slide slide 15 That is what you see there, right? Yes, ma'am Okay all right so A central cell disease is the most common genetic disease in the whole world Which has affected a lot of populations And it has it comes with each one various complications affecting worldwide. It used to be a disease of blacks But because of migration now it has become a global disease And therefore everybody in the whole world is being affected And it is a disease that is inherited from both parents It's not that only one parent is affected. No for a person to be born with sickle cell disease it means that Both parents had a trait of a sort and a child young born child inherited trait from both parents and one person With sickle cell disease gets pregnant The person suffers a lot of complications and problems Among which are pre-term labor low birth weight, maternal death and then conditions such as hypertension in pregnancy and others Next slide But currently It is estimated that pregnancy in women with sickle cell disease in Africa Is very high. The mortality rate is very high And it stands between 7 and 12 percent However, those women with sickle cell disease when they also get pregnant It affects them so much that they stand a chance of dying 22 folds Compared with those without sickle cell disease I can hear some noise. I wonder what everybody's hearing me Can I go ahead? Use the microphones if you are Plug your microphone and make sure Okay The microphone is on. It's turned blue. Is that okay? Mabel, you're wonderful. You can keep going Okay Okay So People people with sickle cell disease when they get pregnant they stand a chance of dying 22 times more than those without sickle cell disease But currently a lot of research has also shown that if people Are managed with a multi multi disciplinary team It will help them to be able to improve Their condition and then the death rate By about 18 9 percent And therefore it is important that People with sickle cell disease when they get pregnant they are managed with multi disciplinary team Which includes the maid wife However, a lot of research conducted has been done in UK the developed countries US and other places and not much is done in Africa A lot that has been done in Africa also look at pregnancy outcome and others and little is Known about the midwives role in managing sickle cell disease in Ghana And that is why I chose to research to explore the midwives A role in managing sickle cell disease in Ghana So the method used was qualitative That is to be able to explore the views of the women Or the sorry the midwives who are managing these people So that we know exactly what they are doing with these women and senior midwives were chosen because Sickle cell disease is known to be a high-risk pregnancy and therefore all the women who are Uh Who reports with pregnancy should be nurse with people with expertise In midwifery and then obstetrics and therefore senior midwives were recruited And in-depth interviews were conducted with 17 senior midwives It was a purpose because of the high-risk nature And the fact that senior midwives expertise are supposed to manage them And then their data was analyzed using thematic analysis The objectives of the study Was to assess midwives knowledge regarding the obstetric management Of sickle cell disease and to describe the practices of the midwife in pre-conception care Of women with sickle cell disease and to also explore the care that they provide for these women during pregnancy labor and postpartum It was also to identify the challenges that they encounter whilst they are offering their services And also to determine how they can Improve on the services that they provide for these women So the findings where that's a lot of them were age between 30 And 60 so the lowest age was 31 and the highest age 59 They were midwives of senior level Ranging from midwifery officer. That is the mo to the highest level of dds Which is the deputy director of nursing services So they are all within the senior midwifery categories And there are also people who have had a lot of working experience And the least person with experience is six years with the highest being 30 The highest experience is 37 Yeah, they also were selected from workplaces antenatal clinics postnatal clinic antenatal world labor world and then all the Areas of midwifery services provision The teams 10 teams came out of the various findings Namely scope of midwifery practice Knowledge on managing sickle cell disease their competencies their practices during preconception practices in antenatal practices during labor Practices during postnatal and then whether they have any guideline That is guiding them in their management So on the scope of midwifery practice They shared their experiences or their knowledge on what they think is their scope of midwifery practice And one midwife indicated That the midwife is supposed to care for the pregnant women From the beginning of pregnancy on to delivery After delivery the midwife takes care of the woman for such ways Before handing her over to the committee healthness Another also indicated the role of the midwife is not limited to pregnancy alone It extends to the men as well because in family planning we include them Our practice also involve adolescent health antenatal and postnatal So we're just giving out the knowledge about what they know to be the scope of the midwife Another also indicated recently island of critical care nursing which we now do as midwife For about three to four years ago the obstetric and gynecology now have our own intensive care unit So midwives are being trained in critical care nursing And I also know of anesthesia which midwives can also train So they think that the ups and gunning units within the hospital has now started training midwives In intensive care and then they can also go into critical care nursing as well to expand their scope On the knowledge in managing psychosocial disease Generally midwives had a fair idea about what psychosocial disease is and they express their views And the science and symptoms that are associated with it. So one indicated that it is hereditary They have types such as SS, AS, AC, depending on the electrophoresis That determine the type an individual has There are some features that when seen can determine if the person has psychosocial disease Their teeth is prominent. The forehead is bulge They have jaundice and fingernails are like drumsticks They have crisis severe joint pain and jaundice. That is a midwife sharing her experience Another also said in psychosocial disease Instead of the normal cells, they have psychosocial shape of their red blood cell They have crisis joint and bodily pain They are bound to take folic acid and other supplements They are advised to visit their clinic regularly. That is also another person sharing experience And then on the competencies of the midwives in managing psychosocial disease We try to find out how their Pre-service and in-service trainings have prepared them to be able to manage people with psychosocial disease And on pre-service training One indicated that it has prepared me adequately. At least I have the skill to manage the clients And if there is any emergency, I will be able to manage it But some of them also said they were not taught How to manage women with psychosocial disease during their pre-service training as one said in fact During my time of training, there was not much done on caring for women with psychosocial disease in pregnancy For in-service training or after school What they go through in terms of training They indicated as one said I have not had any other training in psychosocial disease on the job Another also said no not even a workshop. In fact, they don't organize workshop for us But we have been told that since this place is a new unit They will organize training for us in diabetes psychosocial disease and all the medical Conditions in pregnancy that training has not come on yet. Yes, there was another there was a A unit in the confanacea teaching hospital where I conducted a study Which is known as the frito-maternal Unit where they manage medical conditions including those with psychosocial disease So they said that that unit has just come up and they have promised to train them However, that training has not yet come on On their practices in pre-conception care Almost all the medias indicated that there was no program for pre-conception care in the teaching hospital As they indicated one said in confanacea, we don't do pre-natal care The frito-maternal medicine for statistics and gyne is now trying to look at that aspect of care But for now there is nothing like that. I have been there for seven years and have not provided pre-conception care to mothers We just start with antinatal clinic when they come That somebody's experience another also said we do not do pre-conception care here We only see them when they come on admission Then what they are finding is they are practices during antinatal care They also mentioned what they do during antinatal care provision one indicated that we give them anti-tetanol injection Some of them are allergic to SP. SP is a anti-malaria prophylaxis called sulfadoxin Pyramidamine which is given to them to as a prophylaxis against malaria So we give them mosquito nets to prevent malaria. We educate on diet fluids fruits and fibers. We do liver heart checks WBC has wide blood cell Full blood count FBC urea and creatinine They do that once at the reporting and when they are 36 weeks of gestation The another also indicated midwives do not do much Apart from checking their blood pressure weight and height Usually if The one sitting at the registration table. We have specific indicators. We look out for example those with high blood pressures resource negative mothers Mothered with HIV and those with sickle cell disease are given priority care We usually group them and allow them to see the specialist doctor So that is another person's view of how much they do or how much care they provide for women with sickle cell disease in pregnancy For their practices during labor and delivery Midwives again share their experiences on how much they do or how much Efforts or work the service they provide for them As one said we see to it that the mother has an IV line that is intravenous line We administer normal C line and call the doctor We also check the vital signs We do vaginal examination Monitor patients using the pathograph If the person is Due for delivery We deliver them and continue with infusion We offer prescribed trial model Another also said at labor pain management is number one Oxygen is also kept at their side and we make sure we hydrate them When they get to second stage at times we speed the stage by either giving episiotomy and encourage them to push Or we do vacuum aspiration for them Finding out on their practices during postnatal Again, they also share their experiences on how they do for them for postnatal care One said we nurse them differently from the usual postoperative care We give to the other patients who don't have the disease What we do is that we give them more fluids Like hydration unlike the normal patient who don't have the disease When they come And we give them the infusion postoperative day one or even six hours postoperative They are given steps of water or tea and then we discontinue the fluids But with the circle cell after the surgery we continue with hydration even if they start the steps of water So they were trying to Distinguish between the care they provide for Women with circle cell disease and those who don't have circle cell disease as even the more fluids Than those who don't have circle cell disease Another also said for postpartum for postnatal care They go for immunizations for the babies and seek family planning counseling for the mother Finally enough most of the people I have talked to Do not want to go for the second time at all because The experience is so bad If they know their spouse's genotype or not the baby should be screened and seek medical intervention Personal hygiene cuts across Pray pregnancy through to after delivery their medication should also be taken Yeah, so this is also another person who was expressing her view that They have to be taken some people because of the experience they have had in giving birth They just don't want to embark on any pregnancy again So to find out about whether they have any guideline that is Helping them to provide services The indicated that they don't have any specific guideline for providing services As they indicated that no there was nothing like that The little training I had In my pre-service is what I was using to manage them I have not seen any protocol since I started working here Another also said I have not seen any protocol We normally manage by the instructions of the doctors So that is the guidelines of protocol for management And then those who felt there could be a protocol also shared that well I know that there may be One just that they have not been posted or displayed on the walls for us to see And that is a bit funny because if there's a protocol and it's not accessible then I don't know who will use that protocol for management So on the challenges the midwives face in managing sequester disease Again, they express their view about the kind of challenges they go through As one said the first one is that we don't have enough machines Like the common pulse or zimita We had to complain for long before we had some We give oxygen without knowing the percentage which is not good enough We have a lot of challenges When they are in crisis we want them to be on a monitor And that means pushing her to the ICU that is intensive care unit If every world had a monitor it would be good Means that walls have no monitors It is only at the intensive care units that monitors are So if a patient is in crisis and you need to put the person on monitor You have to push the person to the intensive care unit for that particular kind of care And as I said it is not enough It is not sorry it is not everyone who have knowledge in managing pregnant women With a circles cell disease So the protocol should be made available on the world's end clinic So that if a midwife is alone on the world She can refer to that for management The only thing I know is relieving pain If a patient is in pain I can set up normal C-line with tramadol for her Apart from that I can do education too That is all so they should make a protocol available That is the kind of direction for managing women with circles cell disease So in concluding on the findings It was identified that midwives had inadequate knowledge about circles cell disease in general And in managing women with circles cell disease They were not playing their role as coordinators in managing circles cell disease in pregnancy Thus it is indicated that in normal pregnancies midwives play lead roles But when it comes to risk pregnancies they have to coordinate the role Among a multidisciplinary team There is no established multidisciplinary team for managing circles cell disease That was found at the facility And then the study has also revealed that circles cell disease in pregnancy is a high risk Therefore the women should be managed by a team of specialized healthcare professionals including midwives The midwives play a coordinator role within the team to ensure that The women and babies are cared for adequately So the recommendations are that The midwifery career column should include genetic conditions and genetic counseling And the T-witters should ensure that the topics cover all genetic conditions including circles cell disease It is also recommended for the training schools that Or after school that they should be continuous in-service training when they come out of from school The clinical side should also have in-service training for the midwives to be able to update them On the new things that are occurring in circles cell disease There should be effective management in Effective management is best than when there is guidelines for practice So it is also recommended for the clinic the hospital That is the Konfanochi hospital to be able to come up with a guiding protocol for managing women with circles cell disease Then the multidisciplinary team that is also a standard and recommended That every facility should ensure that they use Should also be established in the facility so that the midwife can play is coordinator rule And then the reproductive and Child health directorates of the Ghana Health Service Also in collaboration with the non-communicable disease unit should come up with a strategy and standard protocol for managing circles cell disease Which could be used as an in-service training material for new entrants the non-communicable disease Is now in control of circles cell disease in Ghana So when it comes to policies for circles cell disease It has been pushed under the non-communicable disease control unit And therefore if they collaborate with the Ghana Health Service, they'll be able to come up with protocol for management Break conception care must be taken seriously by the Konfanochi teaching hospital and the clients should be monitored and followed up To receive the care there should be increased community awareness Of circles cell disease and its complications so that couples will also take informed decisions for a better life So that brings me to the end of the presentation Acknowledgement to all the midwives that were used for the presentation The other people who supported with this research And everybody including you listening to me today. Thank you very much Thank you


They named him twice Hello Wilkinson and Wilkinson studios and hello Matt and Beta Ray Bob Nice to see you Beta Ray Bob and it was nice to See you and say hello. Hello jump a general. Hello Garcia gung-foo Hello spaced Cobra and Samuel and JK siege Hello B-Train and Harold. I think I said hello to Harold before but if not, hello Hey, thank you for the super chat sergeant slaughterhouse The sergeant slaughterhouse will be kicking off Cobra Convergence. So look forward to that It's coming very soon now very soon a hello bubble wrap memories. Hello Sparks, sir. Hello woodman. Hello Daniel I'm back I'm back in the good old us of a After Joe festival Joe fest is also in the good old us of a so But it's still technically true that I'm back in the good old us of a and and back home Hello, hey James. How do you do? And Terrence says hi from the great state of Maryland. Hello, Maryland from the United States. Nice to see you and hello DC 4l. How do you do? Actually? I I do like Maryland. I have been to Maryland When when I had car trouble in Maryland the people there were very helpful. I got it fixed no time You know for a reasonable price I encountered some actually quite friendly people in Maryland. So so thank you, Maryland So, yeah Joe fest 2022 hello the killer weezer. How do you do? How's the road lag? It's it's lagging It's it's it's lagging Yes, thank you Bob. Thank you Bader Ray Bob Peg warmers. Hey, nice to see you peg warmers peg warmers also be in Cobra convergence How was Joe fest? It was great. It was actually really really great and I'm gonna talk at a length about it While I also show you some of the stuff I got now. Oh, oh, thank you Christian bricks No, thank you for the super chat. It says greetings from Denmark.  Thank you very much greetings Denmark from the United States and I really appreciate that I am also glad to be back Okay, so Let me cover this right now. Let me cover this right now. I Did I did drive there because I didn't fly I drove because I knew I was gonna have a table I needed stuff for the table and some of the stuff I needed to bring with me for the table was gonna not be very practical to put on a plane So I felt I needed to drive I I'm not doing that next year I am pretty sure I will have a table next year. I'm Debating that but regardless whether I have a table or not. I'm not driving again. I'm gonna fly out there I'm gonna fly And I'll tell you why first of all The stuff I needed for the table some of what I did I couldn't use Like the the big screen that I have usually have behind me showing the videos I had technical difficulties with it Including technical difficulties with the facility and their power supply So I couldn't use it So it was just wasted space And the the big stand-up tall sign that I usually use I couldn't find it I thought I had it, but I don't have it. So so that's the thing. That's the thing if Without those larger items I I don't I don't necessarily need a car trunk to carry those I Could pack those in such a way either Absolutely could fly with the rest of the stuff and still have a table and still have everything I need So yeah, no, no more this driving stuff gas is too expensive That's a Bubble wrap memory says update from from Maryland. I just got a defiant for $500 plus a ton of other things That's a really good deal for a defiant. Was that a deal if the defiant is even anywhere near complete Absolutely, even if it's not complete There are some missing parts and cracks, but never had it a very defiant as a kid and lost my mind. Yeah the defiant Every part on the defiant is expensive and often hard to find Comic tropes correctly points out that planes also operate off of gas that is that is true That is true But they don't have to stop at a shell every few hours, you know to gas up They a little they operated just a little differently. Also With if if I flew out there Then I'm not I wouldn't have to split up the drive into two days and pay for extra hotel Extra hotel room. I wouldn't have to pay for gas I wouldn't have to bring as much stuff because I wouldn't it would be like a three-day trip instead of a six-day trip It just and with that I could I could easily afford the plane ticket I would that would more than cover the plane ticket. So That's that's the plan. That's the plan.  How do you do? Okay, oh, hey cool. So Jen one red alert ran into me at the theater at Joe Fest. So While I was in Augusta the Fathom events was having the What the 35th anniversary of GI Joe the movie from 1987 they were showing it on the big screen so I got a ticket to that and I went to that and I was able to see some people I was able to check out You know, I was able to watch the movie obviously But I was also able to connect with some people in the theater.  That was really fun I you all know how I feel. Oh, hello Cobra Island also in Cobra Convergence. How do you do? See Toad a race has did you make you feel that it is okay to be into this stuff still you so do Not need to apologize. Well, thank you. Thank you toad If I may call you a toad, thank you very much. That's very kind. I appreciate it Oh and Peg warmers also went to the Fathom event on Thursday night in Oaks PA. Hello Oaks PA from the United States also peg warmers Will be in Cobra Convergence and Peg warmers and codename new to Vera to had an episode together and I was on the road and wasn't able to catch it live, but I posted that episode on Facebook so check that out Cobra Convergence is coming Really soon and it's really tempting to just talk about Cobra Cobra Convergence because my goodness It's there's it's really soon now But what they gone they gone also Cobra Convergence and how do you do they gone nice to see you there? Hello cyclonus. Thanks for being here. Hello Michael Pytel Did Duke survive spoiler Duke? um well I'm afraid I'm afraid to tell you know, man. I probably shouldn't spoil it. I Probably I probably shouldn't spoil whether Duke survives or not It's just up in the air who who can know who can know Comic tropes wants to hear Joe fest stories. Please ignore your comments when you're telling us I'll do my best. I'll do my best to thank you comic tropes So, yeah, Joe fest Once again in Augusta, Georgia It is in Augusta, Georgia because that is where Ed is from who runs the show So it's gonna be in in Augusta every year as far as I know See Christian Brick says you went from Oklahoma to Georgia via Maryland. No wonder Yeah, okay. I should clarify. I should clarify. It wasn't the same trip You know, it wasn't the same trip that I went. It was a different trip that That I went to Maryland, but I I I understand that the confusion my apologies different trip On that trip. I went like northeast So it's in Augusta, Georgia Augusta is pretty well known for golf They're they're known for two things. They're known for golf and they're known for James Brown And two deep decent things two decent things to be known for hello the figure six pack nice to see you But apparently apparently now they're starting to get known for for GI Joe because Joe fest is there every year now I've been to Augusta a couple of times now and like This time as with last time, you know before the show started. I was asking myself Did she do I really want to go back to Augusta, Georgia every year? You know, Joe Khan was a traveling show right different different city each year This one isn't it's it's it's in one city So I think to myself do I really want to go to the same city Every year But then like I go and I get all set up and I start hanging out and I meet people I catch up with friends, you know, I have a great time and Like I realize how much I missed everybody and I missed like Seeing people in person and talking to people in person and then like by the end of it I'm like, yeah, I'm going back. Of course. I am that's that's where my friends are so Yes, yes, I will do my best to make this an annual event so I spent a lot of time with with Bart Simon with Matthew Comstock and oh, there's Bart Yes, yeah Bart everybody came to Joe Fest to see you because you had the whiskey that you were carrying around So you're very popular so And they're significant others as well. So I Want to say thanks to them in particular because they actually Spent a lot of time with me and it was really nice hanging out with them. So so thanks to you guys but I got to I got to see lots of people and For those of you who never went to Joe con Joe con was a fairly small show is as these things go But Joe con had a community and had a family and it was like a family reunion every year. It really was you know once a year you would meet up with your your friends and You know you would catch up and And I Wasn't sure if Joe Fest would feel that way, but when like Bart's and And you know Carson from 3d Joe's and everybody else Shows up there and we start hanging out It's yeah, it feels like that. Hello Jenna. Nice to see you. I did have a good trip. Thank you very much I Had a table. I had a table. I had some sketches there I did sell a good number of sketches But I probably could have sold more But I spent I spent some time away from the table. I Abandoned the table a couple of times more than a couple of times. You know, I put up a sign That says, you know, I'm at a panel because I there are some panels that I wanted to see I did not make it to all the panels. I wanted to go to Because you know, I really did need to man the table and so, you know, I didn't want to Samuel says I missed joke on me too me too So yes, I missed some panels, but I did make it to a few But that meant that my table was was Unoccupied Chris. Thank you for the super chat comic tropes for your chocolate Donuts and grape soda. That's delicious. I think it will have some grape soda right now That is not grape soda Yeah, um I managed to hang out with everybody. I did not end up drinking. Um, I don't really drink anymore, but I It really didn't make any difference. I was really there for the people and You know, everybody else would have a beer or whatever and I would just have water and you know, it was fine um, uh, so Yeah, um Uh I in particular um, I I wanted to catch up with You know, it's some jocan people, but um, I I got to spend a I went to The 3d joes panel uh with karsen and he was talking about, you know operation recall and You know just being there and actually seeing his enthusiasm for it. Uh, that was really infectious So I've I got a little bit of time to talk with karsen. Hey there codename new to vero 2. Nice to see you Hello, uh herald car free. I don't know if I said hello before but if not, hello. Hello evan classified. Hello nyquist um Yes, uh bart, um I I've heard tell of your drinking way too much on saturday night. I I did I did hear such stories um Yeah, um Let's see, uh draws says for copper converter six will, uh, be Some way folks to pitch in with small videos and photos. I got a few ideas. Yes, definitely. Uh, there are some in directions on Uh, hcc 788.com if you go to the website, there are some directions for that. Um Yeah, so I I uh Uh, I I did I I mean I never have enough as much time to hang out with karsen as I would like to But I I did get a couple of opportunities to talk with him. So Um, that was nice and I just I just like karsen as a person. Hello firefly. Nice to see you I like him as a person and uh his the project that he's working on seems to be coming together And I'm just thrilled. I'm just thrilled for him. I'm genuinely happy for him Uh, so that was that was nice. That was nice. Oh, thank you. Josiah Uh, did you have a cigar and did you uh, what is your favorite cigar brand? Uh, I did have a cigar and um well I thought oh, well. Yeah, the back the box is here. Um, the the cigar that I'm working on. Uh, now is uh Is this one And it's not a an expensive cigar. It's not it's not a high-end cigar, but it's it's a nice reliable Uh, kind of middle of the road cigar, which which at least for the time being is kind of my speed Uh, so yeah, I did I did have a cigar. In fact, I had a cigar with bart and matt And and thanks. Thanks guys for hanging out with me So, uh, uh, beta ray bob says next year at joe fest. I may need to take after afternoon naps So I'll have the energy uh for the uh the after hours events. Yeah You have to pace yourself especially at my age. Hello jls comics. How do you do jls comics also cobra convergence? Thanks for being here. Um, yeah, I saw you walking around a bit beta ray bob and um Uh, it um, it's uh, it's a marathon. It's a marathon. It's not a sprint um So Yeah, oh matt rubin, um No mac and noodles. They uh, do they still make them? That's a good question I haven't had a mac and noodle in a while I'm pretty sure they do still make them because I think I saw some At the last cigar shop that I went to I'm pretty sure so yeah, I'm pretty sure but actually it has been a minute since I've had a mac and noodle Thanks. Um, just pop that up in my memory. Thanks um but yeah, um it was um Yeah, the psychedelic pizzas I I really liked the pizza that I had there by the way I thought it was delicious and I did end up eating some. Hello, Dave II um Dave II um awesome to meet you at joe fest It is in fact, you just remind me. Thank you for the super chat Um to because I have stuff to show you I have stuff to show you. I'll show you at least most of my joe fest hall, but um, hello Uh, dorati, how do you do? Hello jump in general? Hello scones, uh, hello western kentucky from the united states Um, I did not purchase any toys there. I thought about it. I thought about it. Um, but I but I didn't actually Buy any toys. Um, I'm kind of surprised that I didn't there were a couple that I kind of thought about pulling the trigger on but Um, were there any exclusives at the show? Yes, there were In fact, roma collectibles had a number of exclusives. They're very limited run Um, and I think there were there were some others as well. So there were some exclusive. Yes I don't typically go for the exclusives, but I did think about getting some exclusives this time I I did get some stuff from people people brought things to me um Yeah, codename in two very two on my omg hcc 78 got a bucky t-shirt. Yes. Yeah On the way back. I stopped at buckys. I stopped at buckys and And I got some beaver nuggets So, yeah, it was an eventful drive home um, so I did I did I did buy a few things Uh, and I had some things given to me and I will Uh, yes, I that is true bart.  They do have clean bathrooms. I will give them that This is why I can't show you all the stuff I got because I know some of it's not here I'm a little frustrated because I'm not sure it's gotta it's gotta be in my backpack or something Uh, so I I apologize if you gave something to me and you don't see it in in this live stream I apologize. I'll try to I know I have it nothing got left behind I double and triple checked But we did have to creatively pack everything In order to fit it all In the space that we had to bring it back um Yeah leads alabama if you can believe that not not not england not england but alabama No, but it's it was yes, uh, sort of well, I didn't buy it It was given to me jls comics and it's and it's very tiny. It's a very tiny shotgun um for for for very tiny enemies So yeah, but the shotgun I specifically put it some place So I wouldn't lose it Um, but it it's not in the place where I thought it was. I know it's here. I know it's here There are also a couple other things like um, the a dude gave me like a a really cool like a Like a weapons storage crate That he made and I know I have that But it wasn't in there, which means that it got packed away somewhere else So I apologize if uh, if you gave me something and I ended up Not showing it on here, but I'm I'm still unpacking. I've really only been Uh, I've been here for a very short uh period of time. Hey moped magazine tv says hey, man This is pleasant with moped magazine. It was a pleasure meeting you. You're awesome. Thank you. Moped magazine um, you mentioned that and uh Yeah, this so yeah, these guys took took my picture And thanks for stopping by that's very nice. That's very nice I appreciate it. Um, yeah, so it was that was really cool and Speaking of moped magazine That was one of the folks that I had come by the table. The table was often rather busy There were a few quiet moments which I needed so I could kind of catch up catch my breath But it was it was often quite busy often quite busy and I did bring an assistant with me Um, but my assistant would frequently bail on me leaving me alone Uh to to handle everything all by myself, but you know what? I I did it. I handled it um uber Hulk says I was recently in houston a place called misfit toys picked up tiger force recondo and version 1 lifeline plus Uh, I went to bucky's. Yeah. Well, let's see. That's you know I drove through texas a few weeks ago. I drove through texas did not see one bucky's But then I go to alabama and I see a bucky's So come on texas catch up man Yeah So yes, so I want to show a few things off I want to show a few things off. Okay, so not everything but here are a few things Numero uno of the things to show off Is Is this My joe fest card now this one is not a trifold Like the first one was this is just a single so everybody just kind of had to make room On there, but yeah, I had this at my table and I asked everybody Yes, and including motet moped magazine I asked everybody to to sign my joe fest card and I got quite a lot of signatures So, um, yes, this is something that I will be keeping forever. This is my favorite Momento of the show Uh, and yeah, that was Yeah, let's just see all the signatures there. Uh, so thank you to everyone. Thank you to everyone Joe finn 84 says how are you? I am fine. Thank you. How are you? Thanks for asking um, so yeah, there was um Uh, yeah I think that bucky's in leads alabama is the only one out in alabama. Yeah Well, that's I was kind of surprised to come across it. Yeah Um, so anyway, yeah, so thank you to everyone This I think is still my favorite thing to do in the show is to have an opportunity to Uh, to to just get Something from everyone that I can bring back and remember the show And this this will go with my other one. So, uh, so thank you to everyone Uh, who stopped by To sign my card if you were not able to stop by Or if you weren't there There is always next year. There's always next year. Hello, raw vegas. Nice to see you. Hello, matthew buck Matthew buck says he signed the card indeed indeed. I would point to it But as you can see there are lots of wait, wait, no, I found it. No, it's right there I was gonna say it's hard to pick out a single signature Amongst all of these but then I look at it and I see it immediately. Okay, see there. Yeah, see he signed it Um, so yeah, this so that's that's number one thing to show off That's number one thing number Two thing. Oh, I might as well show this. Okay um You guys remember my review of Of the bridge layer A guy named lance did the artwork for the thumbnail for the bridge layer and Lance Stopped by the booth and it's the first time I've actually met him in person after all these years So that was awesome Really great meeting him and he gave me this Which is upside down. He gave me this this really nice watercolor that he did Uh So that's that's just I just think this is really cool. So, uh, so thank you lance Thank you. Thank you very much. Sorry if I'm yelling in the microphone But thank you lance and most importantly, um really nice to meet you lance is somebody that You know, I've I've corresponded with for quite some time You know off and on But just to have him like walk up and say hi that's that's really it's really it's kind of trippy But it's really super cool to actually meet people In person that I've talked to like this before that is really really fun That I think that's one of the most fun things about the show Um, yeah, see comic tropes remembers that thumbnails are that was lance that was lance Um, and I also got Um This patch which has the sky patrol symbol from the parachutes. I will be adding this to my um My patch and pin shirt Uh from oh who we got um, okay. I think I think I've said hello to everyone But uh, if anybody snuck in here. Hello. Hey, it's rob eras area. I didn't say hello to rob eras area Yes. Yes. I said indeed what what gave it away. How does everybody know that I stopped at buckys? um, so dawn stock by and gave me this extremely gorgeous joe fest mug And it's the one with cobra commander Now I now as you may know Um, yeah, uh, yes, um Is he the bridge lair fan who featured that was kevin who was actually in the video lance did the artwork uh, so Yeah, I I often get coffee mugs From the various places that I've been I didn't get any coffee mugs in Augusta But this trumps any coffee mug. This is just check that out It's got the joe fest 2022 logo And it's got a nice A nice cocoa On the back. I this is this is cool. So so um, so thank you. Thank you for this. Thank you for this Um, dross says I remember when hoodie rocked a panel a few years At joe fest ago I would encourage you to check it out. Thank you dross This time I did not request a panel, but I kind of wish I had So that we could uh, you know so we could launch cobra convergence But hey, that's a great segue next year next year. I will next year. I'm going to ask ed for a panel But that's a great segue because I did attend a panel I did attend a panel by The guys who do the audible interlude podcast who will be in cobra convergence And I wanted to attend because I haven't actually been able to meet these guys in person So I popped into their panel and and I got a hat I got a hat That's not all I got so they did they did a trivia quiz. They did a trivia quiz And and karson from 3djoes.com karson metaxis Um, he points over there and says hey, I think hcc knows a lot about gi joe. You should ask him a question Putting me on the spot, but you know what? I came through I knew the answer to the trivia question and I won I won this hat And I also won this this uh this goodie bag that has like It has a book in it It's uh the joy of gi joe memory. I'm sorry. Yeah memories of america's movable fighting man from today's grown-up kids um edited by jim beard with justin bell and bill nedrow So yeah, so I got a book. I got a book And I think yeah, there's a pen and a sticker in here, too So and they have a so I got a a sticker and a pen. So Yeah, so, um uh, I got My trivia question, right? I won the prize Uh, and then I and I said hey if if karson's gonna make me do it. You should ask him a question and karson did not get his Answer correct karson did not win the prize But karson's an okay guy. Anyway, he's a nice guy. It's fine. It's fine Uh, he's he did well. He did well Um, uh diruti says what was the question? I'll tell you what the question was the question was In the gi joe movie Uh, to whom does alpine say Uh, what were the words something like, um, how good are you at splicing? Alpine says to which joe, how good are you at splicing? The answer is gung ho The answer is gung ho from that movie. Now karson's question Um, yes, dave, uh, he's he's a good dude if you ever have a chance to Talk, uh with karson from 3d joe's You owe it to yourself to just just spend a minute if he has a panel going go to the panel And and check out what he does. Hello turd vergeson. Nice to see you Um, so karson's question. Here's karson's question. Let's see how many of you get this Right. Okay. I To his question. See, yeah peg warmers is right gung ho gung ho Is the one who said that or to whom it was said it's alpine said it to gung ho. That is correct uh now The question that was asked of karson was What was the first ever? Mail away gi joe item What was the first ever? gi joe mail away item Uh, yeah photo. Oh, hello photo viper. Thanks for being here. I used to knock in I I didn't see you come in Nice to see photo viper as well karson is a great dude 100 agree 100 agree Um, comic trope says cobra commander that that was also karson's guess but that is incorrect The first mail away gi joe item ever Notice it did not specify real american hero mail away item See that's that's see you guys are thinking exactly the same way that karson did but But the question didn't specify real american hero series mail away the first ever mail away as a as it happens As it's none of that it's none of it good guesses good guesses, but it's not not any of those uh the um See I had a guess. I didn't know for sure. I didn't know for sure, but I had a guess Um, hello might be genius. Nice to see you. Nice to see you Uh, no not not that not that you guys you guys are um Uh, you you're not getting warmer. Hang on. I'll tell you the answer I I it's My guess would have been right only because for luck because of dumb dumb luck because I only know of one pre real american hero mail away offer I only know of one And that is the Kellogg's Marine dress blue It was a dress blue uniform for 12 inch gi joe. I think it was from the late 60s Um that you could get through the mail it was the Kellogg's mail away um Marine corps dress blues from this from the 60s that was apparently the first There you go the the first Ever mail away gi joe item now I would have guessed that and I would have I apparently I would have been right But but the only reason I would have guessed that is because it's the only one I know of I mean, I sure I'm sure there were other mail away You know pre real american hero gi joe items, but I don't know what they are I don't I'm not I'm not an expert in that area. I don't know that That time period um Yeah, Kellogg's like cornflakes.  That was the right one So anyway, so yeah, um, so, uh, That's that's how that went down Um, but that was it was a fun panel And then I was trying to catch up with the order of the audible interlude guys afterward But I got caught up. Um, and then when I turned around they were gone They were gone And then I tried to you know catch up with them, you know elsewhere You know during the show and I and I didn't see them So I'm sorry saw the audible interlude guys that I wasn't able to to catch up with you and I get with you more one-on-one. I apologize for that. I did try I did try Um next year next year Uh, but hey, I got I got this hat I got this hat. It's pretty snappy I dig it. I like to hat I'll keep the hat So this is something I got. Oh, thank you Josiah Uh road restaurant of choice iHOP waffle house griddle hut crackle cracker barrel or other um Good question I think I'll go with iHOP. They have they have a couple Pancake varieties that I like Waffle house we used to call it the awful house I don't know that that's necessarily deserved because I haven't been to an awful house for a long time But yeah, I think I'd go to I I go for some iHOP pancakes. I've done that a few times um, oh and Josiah often reminds me to mention He didn't this time, but often reminds me to mention What's on joe mind? Every friday live I was on what's on joe mind last friday as the joe fest correspondent the man on the street so Yes, um, I don't know what else I have to say with that. I was on the show I enjoyed being on the show. It's always nice to be on the show You know catching up with uh the rob and mike and joe and joe It was joe and joe on joe So lots of joes everybody named joe and rob and mike. So nice to see you guys also Also today is tuesday That means why am I doing this? Why am I why am I like super hyper animated today is tuesday? Uh, waffle house is the perfect hangover food. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense Um Thank you. Thank you for the thumbs. Yes. Thank you jls comics and thanks. Thanks peg warmers for the reminder Um today is tuesday. So there's a new half the battle with timmer this time He is looking at the animated mini series revenge of cobra That that whole series is pretty trippy. So make sure you check out that And I will mention I you know, I just off hand because I'm talking about friends, right? I really like timmer. Um, he's been a great friend a really nice guy and Just behind the scenes. He's been very encouraging and I just personally like him a lot. So timmer if you're watching I think you're a great guy. Thanks for being my friend. You just thanks for everything. I I appreciate it um So more stuff that I got more stuff that I got and I think All right, everything in this stack. Okay, man, there's too much stuff here Okay, okay I'm gonna quickly run through a couple of things that were given to me Then I'll run through a couple things that I bought Uh, and then I think that'll probably be it now. I will I will not keep the Show going uh beyond an hour tonight because my god. I've been driving all day uh, so I need a break at some point, but I was I was given this 3d printed pack-ratch machine gun um, and yeah, like It works It works Um, so this was really cool. So it's kind of like classified scale. Hey joe fan 84. Thank you for the super chat Um, do you happen to know the dates for next year? I didn't get the date for this one I missed out because I couldn't get off work. Oh, well, I'm sorry you missed out They don't have the dates for next year This year was a little bit of a problem because it conflicted with heroes con And they don't want to conflict with heroes con. So Um, what I've heard is that they're they're gonna Adjust the dates for next year to ensure there's no conflict So I don't know what when exactly when that'll be um I by by sometime in january they should have Uh, they should have some dates for you. Uh, and I will I will try to post them when I have them so, um Here's the thing about Joe fest if you can make it great if if for any reason you can't get off work or you can't afford to go Or you just you just can't it's okay. It's fine. That that's life sometimes. I get it. I get it And if you can't make it, I'll try to like Provide opportunities to still connect with people and still kind of at least vicariously experience it If you can make it though at least once I think I think I will sneeze twice pardon me um, I think you will Find it very memorable and really the things that you remember most least of things that I remember most is um Just meeting and talking with people And that is something that I think every joe fan should experience. You know at least once You know go and meet your fellow fans hang out Talk about gi joe talk about that one thing that you have in common that you all Love and enjoy How about an hcc 788 fest? I have thought about that no joke I had that is something I had thought about But I don't know. I don't have any idea how to run a convention And it would be really easy for me to get way over my head on that But but don't think I haven't thought about it. I have in fact thought about it. Um, so, um Let's see. How are we how we doing we got Um, I apologize if I'm getting distracted. Why should I apologize for getting distracted? I always get distracted um, but I was given this, uh This, uh, modern hooded cobra commander and Um, I I'm gonna I want to try to get to I want to get to some of the stuff That I bought because I did buy some things I did. Hello alien dude. How do you do? Um, let's see Uh, the people were fun. I think so. I think so But we've got a couple later edition Stalkers So this one's from like the the comic pack I think like a comic two pack and then I I don't remember exactly which one this is from but it's got like the the two-tone camouflage nice looking stalkers and We've got the Oh, that's well, there's nothing in there Um And and we've got a loyal subjects Um beach head Um, so that's that's really cool. Um, I I have a a small collection of these no pun intended I have a small collection of these Um, and I'd like to I like to pull out the ones that I have and just see how complete That collection is because I actually don't know I haven't looked at them for a minute Uh, oh the stars are right. Yes, that's correct. Thank you herald. I That's the set like it was on the tip of my brain But I couldn't quite remember. See this is why I don't I don't have to remember anything you guys remember it for me So, yeah, that's that's going to be very helpful in my old age So I don't have to remember anything if I'm having trouble finding my car keys for examples Like where did I forget when where'd I put my car keys? I can't remember where I put my car keys I'll just go online. I'll just go live And then one of you guys will probably remember where I put my car keys But and thanks for that. Thanks for that. Uh, yeah, correct. Jenna. You are correct. Thank you. Uh, so Uh, while there's still time there is still some time. Let me let me get to a couple things that I that I purchased um, I got volume h of Dan clean and smith's uh creating g i joe real american hero. It's still in the plastic I will need to take it out of the plastic um, because the these books by dan clean and smith Are very helpful for research for videos In my hand your keys are in your hand. Yes, but thank you. See what would I do without you? What would I do without you? Uh, these are super helpful. In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and open this um are super helpful for reference material for videos and this is something that I try to pick up whenever I can and that is print reference uh related to g i joe. So, uh, this is the book and it's got like Uh a table of contents set out by year and like for instance Uh, if you turn to Uh crimson guard come in. Oh, yeah Um, and we'll say no, let's say go to crimson guard page 17 and what you get is He's got all this Pre-production. He's got con concept art Um, and he's got like, you know final um Final concept art with color there and like tons of information about the production of this figure including Uh, including who it who designed it Uh, and as you can see that was uh, it was designed by Ron Rudette. See this this stuff like when I uh am making videos and I want to know is crystal is that crystal ball that is Indeed crystal ball on the cover. Uh, and I does that mean crystal ball is in here. It is See, so so yeah crystal ball is in here There he is There's the man See, that's what i'm talking about see If I had this, you know before I did my crystal ball review. I could have referenced this and uh Provided some additional inside information Uh about about crystal ball and like Um battle force 2000 so This it's it's really nice um They're they're relatively thin books, but there are a whole bunch of volumes of them and Well, a little but look at this Look, these are color studies For tomax and zeemot Well, you know when they're trying to decide what colors to use And um, this is something that ron would do when designing A figure he would uh, you know, he would do a z rocks of the Uh the drawing the line drawing and then he'd color it in he would just do a bunch of color studies And just see what works the best so yeah, this this is This is cool stuff So I'm really thrilled with what dan clean and smith is doing and by the way Me and another guy were just hanging out at dan's booze His table, you know as I was looking through these books and dan He takes out like and shows us a prototype of the unreleased 1995 baronist figure. It's the baronist figure that we would have gotten If gi joe had continued through 1995 He he took out and showed us Two up paint masters for flash and short views You know these pre-production pieces that are used in the development of the action figures He just had them there to show us Which was awesome And if you have a chance Going to joe fest Stop by the joe declassified booth. They have a ton Of pre-production material You can see things that you never saw before you've never seen before you will see things that you didn't even know existed And they also did a really excellent panel about tiger force Really great tiger force panel by joe declassified So those guys love what they do and super useful for me Very helpful for me as i'm trying to make videos to learn about this stuff. So that's that's super helpful In addition to that I got Let's see i'll just i'll just show the book The the book came with some extra stuff, but i'll show you the book. I got After action report This is by uh roger taft and josh egabine And i was able to meet and hang out with josh for a little bit Roger roger wasn't there for personal reasons, but This is all about the gi joe comic books Um From the marvel era and he signed it. Thank you. Thank you josh much appreciated um, so like you've got You know some some, uh Where's it? Yeah, so that like the the cover art before the before it's approved there and it's got like Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it also has like the concept like the the thumbnail concept drawings alternate covers that they were looking at for Uh gi joe number one before they settled on the cover that we are all familiar with Um, but this this uh talks a lot about the comic book series um, it even has like It has a list of first appearances of characters, which is really helpful to for me because there are sometimes when I'm trying to find the first appearance of somebody and all I can do is just pick up all my copies of the comic book And flip through is like nope not that one next one flip through. Nope. Not that one So it's a little tedious Um, but but this will help. So this is another great print reference book That uh, I will get a lot of use out of so that's really cool. It came with some extra stuff uh, this is a A pinup poster by rod wigum There's a signature there And this is like the The uh the thumbnail layout of it. So Yeah See that's that's that's that's pretty cool. I really love this stuff I really love this stuff. This this is what's fun for me This like it could be difficult now for me to find gi joe vintage items that I don't already have um, so You know This is now the kind of stuff that I get excited about because it gives me more information It gives me, uh, you know more reference material and this this this is like a checklist So this is kind of a supplemental thing for that book. Um, and now The last thing I have to show you. Uh, hello yo joe. Thanks for being here Um Joe rickondo says man looks like he had a blast. Uh, also hello to the htc community I'm getting older and just I had a con cataract surgery. I'll Yeah, hope hope that went well Just being able to read after a week always always enjoy the live streams. Well, thanks joe Congratulations on the surgery. Hope it went well and welcome back. Nice to see you. I did have a blast And I have one more thing to show you Again, I want to emphasize This isn't the only stuff that I got But it's the only stuff that I I I have right now I've got to go through the other stuff and find where everything else was packed So again, if if you gave me something and you don't see it here It didn't get left. It didn't get forgotten It just got had to get packed away creatively To make it back home. So I I apologize for that, but I got one more thing to show you I got one more thing to show you for me Uh It's it's conveniently sealed Uh, oh good. Good. I'm glad it went well. Yeah Uh, thank you. Thank you toybacks and I appreciate it um Uh, I can't I can't imagine how much more info you're going, uh to give us in the news You know, I hopefully I can give you lots of information. I want the reviews to be um To be informative and accurate and that's one of the things that kind of bugs me sometimes Sometimes about the video format is that it's not so easy to go back and edit something After it's already been published And if I go if I see something or I find something that I've put in a video And it turns out to not be accurate. It just kills me. It just it really eats at me I really do try my best To to not make mistakes, but I I do I have sometimes made mistakes. I but uh, um Hopefully I can give maybe some insight on some of this stuff that Maybe not everybody is familiar with so one of the things uh that One of the people that has oh, hello, w w j d 85. Nice to see you one of the things that um Or one of the people that we have to give a lot of credit to for all of this Is ron rudat? And I was able to get a print of stalker my favorite guy Uh by ron and signed by ron And included Is Uh is a signed cobra emblem ron Of course designed this this is the work of ron rudat and he signed that for me Uh, and there's also a card in here And of course, of course, I I did show ron my my tattoo So like he should he I get this from him and I show him the tattoo and he's like Oh, that's that's the original one. That's that's the one I have hanging in my house And I'm like, yes ron. I know. Thank you very much. So and I got my picture with them um ron's wife is just the sweetest person just sweet and nice and um like That's like that's a great family. They seem to just be Uh a great bunch of people davie. Thank you for the super chat hgc. We got to uh, we got Collaborate on on a drawing and I would love to ink some of your work. Okay, Dave. We'll let's figure that out Let's do that because uh, Dave showed me some of his work While we were there and it was amazing. It was awesome Um So, yeah, let's let's let's figure out how to do that. Let's we'll we'll talk we'll talk about that Well, we'll make that work. Well, we'll find a way to make that work. Um, so that that is Again, not everything I got But it's everything that is present with me right now. Hello exploration Uh, did you sell any uh sell all your art pieces? I didn't sell all of them Um, I intentionally brought with me more than I could sell Because I just I just didn't want to have an empty table. Uh, so I did I did bring some back. Um There's somewhere but um, but I sold a lot of them. I sold a lot of them I sold way more than I sold in 2019 Uh, it was pretty happening. It was pretty hopping um, so Uh, yeah, it went it went well. Um Let's see. Uh kc from the podcast Uh podcast from the pit I was able to spend a little bit of time with him. He's a really cool guy If you haven't checked out podcasts from the pit, uh, they will also be in cobra convergence So that would be an opportunity to check them out. Uh, but they it thinks thanks again to those guys I I I worry that like if I start going through all the people that I Met there that I will forget somebody and I don't want to forget anybody Uh, you you guys, um, really made the show for me You know, that's what I care about And um, if if I was like, oh, um, Josiah Thank you for the super chat Josiah 10 minute warning support other channels Uh, uh, have you been to toy base 10 in okc? See everyone friday on what's on joe mine. So yes, check out what's on joe mine stream on friday I have not been to toy base 10 in okc. Um, I um It's actually been a little while since I've even been to okloma city I will check it out next time. I am in the area um But okloma city is far enough away that like You don't usually just pop over there. You know, you have some reason for going um But next time I go I will check out, um, uh that and I think there's another toy place that I In okc that I want to check out. So yeah, I I need to do a little toy exploring in okc Uh, and I will I will I I want to I'm looking forward to that and I will make a point to do it um So yes, yes, um And thank you for the 10 minute warning. I appreciate that And I will definitely wrap it up You know in 10 minutes. Oh, thank you chris for the super chat Uh ever been to max barbecuing in skia took good question. I haven't but that I am intrigued I will be in osage county for work and plan on going to lunch there on friday if you want to Let's talk chris. I don't know if I can but if I can I'll do my best to do that. You know, um, I haven't been to skia took it in some time I think the last time I was in skia took it's because I had a client there and I had to go see my client Um, wow, that's been a minute That has been that has been a fair amount of time. I guess I don't get out to skia took that often Uh, so yeah, let's let's uh, talk about that chris friday is coming up pretty quickly Um starting essentially tomorrow starting tomorrow I've got I've got a lot of video work to do to get ready for cober convergence And I've got to work like straight through cober convergence, but I will get some breaks And honestly it'd be maybe a cool thing to to get out to skia took for a minute And have lunch plus I I love me some barbecue Yeah, but we'll we'll talk about that.  He's proud of his work. He's proud of his work Um, let's see, uh alien dude. Wait, do you draw the thumbnails of the reviews? Yeah, most of them. I do sometimes I have A guest artist I haven't had really any guest artists or very many guest artists recently Um, I did I did have some a few weeks back, but um, most of them I do Occasionally if I if I don't have time to Do the thumbnail I will Use the package art So that happens sometimes But I do usually do the thumbnails. Um, and what I've been doing lately Is doing, uh, physical pencil drawings of the thumbnails and then scanning them to, uh To ink and color digitally Uh, so they it allows me to have an original And and it's it's an extra original that I can take with me Uh to some someplace like joe fest. I have sold a few of the originals Like on ebay, uh, but it's been a little while since I put anything on ebay But yeah, yes, I do most of those. So, oh, thank you alien dude. I appreciate. Thank you. That's very nice. That's very nice um Uh joe, uh, joe fan a4 says I stink at drawing my sick figures.  Honestly, it's just practice like there is There is inspiration when it comes to art and that's that's important But a lot of art is technique and practice and honestly Figure drawing mostly starts with stick figures. That that's how you start when I was in art school and we were, you know Starting learning figure drawing. Of course, some students are a little more advanced than others, but you got to start You know where you got to start at the basics so They would like make us do 10 second uh stick figures in in like some kind of pose Uh, so that we would get used to the idea of drawing out the stick figure uh, you know in proportion and you know Uh, basically starting with the the the structure that we would use to build up You know to the final drawing So, yeah, we did we did a lot of stick figures We get these we'd have these huge sheets of paper And he's like fill that with stick figures and you can take more than 10 seconds each one So Stick figures lots of stick figures. I've drawn a few stick figures in my day in my day um Aliens says my art isn't amazing, but I still make art don't give up making art and you know I don't know that it isn't amazing. It might be it might be really good. I don't know. I haven't seen it, but you know I think art should be something you enjoy creating and If if you are enjoying creating it, then You know, you've already Like that's the big hurdle. You've already you already jumped that hurdle um anything else like if if you want to change it if you want to Learn tech new techniques you can do that But one thing that I decided when I started doing art again A few years ago is that I wanted to keep it on the fun level, right? I'm I'm not a I'm not a commercial artist. I'm not a like a professional Um, you know working artist me making art for a living So I don't approach it like that it like if I got a commission from like Hasbro to draw a uh A classified box like a do some classified box art, which I won't hasbro You know be sensible. I'm not I'm not the person to do that But if I did I would take a different approach to that Then I do my The the drawings that I do now Uh, and it probably would not be as fun But the drawings I do now I enjoy I I really enjoy doing it. I I Um, I like it. I enjoy it Sam Beckett says even Jim Lee erases a lot before he gets the final four exactly. Yeah, exactly um, so Yeah, that's If you want to like not everybody wants to do art if you don't want to do art, that's fine You know do what you want to do, but if you want to do art And you know, you don't know where to start Hey that rhymed I'm a poet and I don't even know it But if you if you want to do art you don't know where to start There are lots of tutorials that you can look at But you're going to be starting pretty simple and pretty basic and That's that's how you learn You're going to start by drawing basic shapes over and over and over like another thing that we did in our school Is like we would draw cubes spheres and uh cylinders We would fill pages with cubes spheres and cylinders at different angles and with like Well with a sphere it's a circle, but you know with shadows and lighting in different place places, so You know you just You you learn a technique and then you practice the hell out of it Until it becomes, you know more natural And then you know you apply those things and then you know You are art art poops out You might say Um Oh Curtis says hello from Detroit. Hello Detroit from the United States Um and guys, uh, it is actually eight o'clock central time by my clock and I do need to wrap it up My voice I can feel my voice giving out, so I wouldn't be able to keep talking anyway But thank you to everyone Thank you to everyone who was here. Thank you to everyone who came up and said hi to me at jocon Thank you to everyone who gave me stuff at jocon If if I if I didn't get to you on this live stream. I apologize You know it's the live streams are never long enough for me to like Really get through everything I really want to do and say but um I promise you that it meant something to me and it meant a lot to me So thank you to everyone And uh, it's time to wrap it up. We will do this again next week And we're closing in on cobra convergence It's it's happening. It's coming up So I hope you're all ready. I am definitely not ready, but I'm gonna get ready. I'm working on it So anyway, thanks everyone. I will say good night and I will see you next time


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Does Wing Chun work with weapons? Yes Wing Chun works with weapons. We have two forms, two weapons forms in Wing Chun. We have the Batam Do or it called the butterfly knife, right? They look like this Okay, so we have this form after you learn the wind dummy We'll teach you the knife form and then we also have the Six and a half foot pole form. It's hard to see it in this camera But six and a half foot pole and we have a form that goes for that too So those are our two weapons forms, but we also have Anti weapons self-defense training too. So common weapons that you encounter are what the knife any kind of club any kind of You know Club like it could be a crowbar to be a bat anything that you need used to swing So we have self-defense training against common weapons as well


Okay, well thanks for that introduction. So over the next 15 minutes or so, I want to take you through the methods that Derek and myself employed to date the Doggerland Cores. Before I do that, we just want to acknowledge some people. Yeah, in St Andrews, I have to thank the technical support of Rebecca Neyland-Ayush, and that Rebecca deserves a special mention because she was an undergraduate that won a Carnegie Trust scholarship to look at some of these materials. And over in CERC, we'd like to thank the Hall of the Rideau Carbon dating team. So, need to reconstructing the paleogeographies and environments of Doggerland is a robust chronological framework. And this has been constructed here from at least 22 of the 109 recovered cores. And now we've got a very extensive datasets. So we've got 178 real carbon constraints, 139 OSL constraints, and they are augmented by luminescence stratigraphies constructed from both proxy and calibrated data. So if it's not already apparent, Derek, he leads the Rideau Carbon and I read the OSL. So what's more, we've got a great spatial distribution of core with a representative selection from across the Southern North Sea, including the Southern River Valley we've heard about this morning, the Silver Lake, sorry, the Silver Pit Lake, and then also Brumbank. And moreover, we've got a great temporal distribution which spans everything from the Lake Glacial up to the final inundation. And I've got this as an exclamation mark here because you can see in some of the cores, we have evidence of a slightly later inundation for Doggerland. But as you can imagine, constructing these chronologies hasn't been without difficulties. So in regard to OSL dating, it's the sheer number of environmental settings that we attempted to investigate that has presented a challenge to dating. And this has been compounded by the fact that we're examining sediments from core. So I don't have the same quantities of sediment that I normally would use in the study. But if I'm on the right then, it shows how the range of human environments that we're interested in, where they have a range of environmental conditions that are conclusive to dating. And also what it shows is that not all the sediment has the same response. And as you can imagine, we're covering a massive area here. So the lithologies are very different and the minerals within them are very different and they have a range of luminescence responses. So again, I've attempted to show that this on this diagram to the right. A fourth challenge we have is how do we reconstruct those rates to the sediments within these cores. But thankfully, we do have some solutions. One of these is the construction of luminescence stratigraphies. And the second is we can look at down profile trends in radonuclide concentrations so that we can model environmental dose rates as robust as we can. So we're going to demonstrate the processes by sorry the methods by looking at two cores. In terms of OSL, we're going to concentrate on one a and then when we come to the radio carbon, we're going to concentrate on 34. So you've heard both those cores that this morning, one a is located at the head of the Southern River Valley. And it had interest to us because this is where the potential tsunami was it's worth. So this is what I show on the on the left. This is a photo of the core. It's been identified by marking Bates. Just to point out four and seven, we know that they are titled mud flats. And in fact, and this is interrupted in five and six by these Shelly gravels. And it's that interval there that's potentially relates to the story of the tsunami. So I've shown this core schematically in the center here with units one to seven in their pale environments there. So let's have a look at it. So there's that schematic. So the first potential solution is looking at luminescent stratigraphies. So what I show here, this is depth and core. And then this is the net signal intensities. What is a net signal intensity? Well, this is shown on the right here. So this is two samples. We have a young sediment sample and an old sentiment sample. And what I'm just showing is one measurements cycle with a portable work cell unit. What we have is luminescence on the vertical axis. In time on the horizontal axis. And we choose to look at two stimulation methods infrared. So that's our IRSL and our blue light stimulated. So that's our OSL. And I think it's quite apparent. You can see that young sediment has a low luminescence count. And this older sediment has a higher luminescence count. So what does that mean for this core? We can see that each of these units then is characterized by a distinct set of luminescence characteristics. And importantly, you can see the stratigraphic breaks, which relates to temporal breaks and time within the core. What it does show is we have very complex depositional sequences. So the next stage is to take those samples from just that first proxy record that we had it. We collected a core sampling to the lab. So we take each of those samples through some simple analytical procedures. So that for each sample we have an apparent dose. So this is comparable to the burial dose that you've heard mentioned in OSL data. So I'm just going to simplify this and just return to that one plot. The reins in stored doses isn't too relevant, but what I just want to draw your attention to is where we have stratigraphic progressions. Because that tells us something about sedimentation. It tells us if the sediment package is consistent and coherent. And where we have temporal breaks, because that's where we have our unconformities. So that's great. We can start to identify specific horizons in the core that we wish to date. But again, now you go, we have the complex depositional histories that we still need to interpret. So I'm just now going to zoom in on these two units and show you what that data looks like. So that's it here. There's our relative plots and then our calibrated plots. I think you can see that there's at least three couplets in here going from low to higher dose, low to higher dose, low to higher dose. So that's what we're seeing in the luminescence. But what do we see in other proxies? Well, this is some of the inferences from the core scanning. And this is a similar depth. So if I just do this and overlay this on top, well, this is potentially three waves within that deposit. And we're seeing it both in the luminescence and the geochemistry. So with construction, constructing these profiles, we have a good sense of the sedimentation histories. So we know where we are. So we can produce in samples where we think we'll get good dates. But the next challenge then is reconstructing the dose rates. And how do we go about doing that? We've got various methods available to us. We can directly measure radonuclide concentrations by a supermass or a gamma spectrometry. But we can also use core scanning to look at down core variations. So the sum of all this is we can be quite robust when we say we have a dose rate at any one point, sorry, any one depth in the core. And the third solution that we have is we can look at how the different samples relate stratigraphically. So this is a depth model being put together by Derek with individual OSL constraints soon. And their position is in sequence. This is great and interesting. You can see what the potential horizons where we've got incomplete bleaching of sediment. And if your sediments incompletely bleached, you'll have an age overestimate. And also shows done here that we had a radio carbon constraint from a shell. And in this case, that is residual and overestimating the age. So in terms of ELF 1A, we're able to have a robust chronology through that unit that spans from 6000 at the top. This is the base of the mudflats down to 9.2 base and the high energy deposits. They come in at between 8 and 8.2, a mean age of 8.1. So yes, they are a contender for storage. So that first part of the talk talked about the OSL. Now we're going to look at the radio carbon chronologies. So as a OSL, it has its own set of challenges. So tapponomic and technical challenges can impact the development of radio carbon based chronologies. What's important for dating these units is that we have a tight security on the material that's being investigated. And how we've gone about that in this project is we've looked at dating multiple fractions. So we've looked at both the humic acid and the human fraction. So both Ben and Tom alluded to this earlier. So the human fraction, for those that don't know, lets any organic matter that's recovered. Whereas the humic acid is a byproduct of the humification process. So the human fraction is acid and upline soluble, whereas the humic acid precipitates out of a highly acidic solution. So it's possible to separate the two in the lab. Why is that important? Well, the human fraction can be affected by tapponomic processes and it might introduce residual materials to the core. Whereas the humic acids will remain in solution in a weak acidic environment and they can be somewhat mobile through the profile. But what's great is when the two fractions yield statistically consistent dates, we can have increased confidence in the security of the samples and the robustness of the chronological model. So we're going to return to ELF 34, which is the core that both Ben and Tom talked about. And in this first slide, we're going to look at the relationship between the two dated fractions. And you can see them coming through in pairs here. You can see for the top part of this up to depth of 172 centimeters, they've got good consistency. So that's great. Whereas beneath that, the two fractions diverge. When we resolve these potential conflicts, we can then reconstruct age death models. So here's the age death model now for 34. What's really great about this is it removes us thinking about individual constraints on certain horizons in the core to be able to talk about chronology for the whole core. So we can query this model to date specific events in the chronology. So just to highlight this and this is referring back to Ben's presentation, we want to date for the start Holocene in the start studio. So there's the query and it comes in. So we have a date for the start of the studio in 34 to between 13 and 12,000. And you can read the rest of the dates there. So we realized when Tom was giving his presentation that we've mistook the description. So we've taken the base of the peak to be the base of pollen. So we can exclude that often date and we'll come back to that. So also great about having the two methods, the two chronological methods as we can compare in contrast. So with the reference to one a I showed that the radio carbon date was residual. The OSL dates from 34 were there the opposite they've underestimated the correct deputational age. Why is that when OSL dating I'm sampling the mineral rich horizons, and I don't tend to sample the organic rich horizons. Those organic rich horizons will have a lower dose rate than the horizons I've sampled, but because of my dose rate measurements are taking on the mineral rich horizons. I have overestimated my dose rates, which has resulted in underestimation in age. So, because we have such a large data set, we can apply these methods across the course, and we can be sure when we say we have a date or a specific court that we do. So that's my 15 minutes up. So to conclude, I thought I'd just throw up the slide at the start. And see, we have built a robust chronology for those 22 investigated course. And this has provided the temple framework on which to test the period geographical environmental reconstruction. So I can take any questions. Well, thank you very much Tim. I'm checking on the chat box. We haven't had any questions come in yet, but if anybody does now would be a good time. Well, we're waiting for that actually. Oh, hello. So we have from Michael Grant. With pet the pair dating, have you been able to model the effect of changing moisture content over the burial period. Yeah, we've done that to some extent just on OSL side. Now we have the, the two data sets both radio carbon and OSL. We're going to look at modeling the age death models for both. And then we can start to look at how much. Well, what you'd have to do to change the moisture content to bring it in line with the the radio carbon. So yeah, that's that's the next stage. Okay. And from Irene gosh, why I hope I got that pronounced correctly. In the first core you showed two outliers in OSL dates. How certain can you say this is due to incomplete bleaching is the question. Yeah, so in general, it's easier to see a situation where you have older sediment coming in and not seeing daylight than younger material coming into the profile and working its way down. More so because we have our profiles. So we can say if we think that there is an evidence of material moving up and down a core. And that allows us to exclude all the dates that would be younger being, is it being too young because the material working in. And it's more likely that the material sitting to the right so order and age is residual. Okay. We have a couple more questions coming through. Can you model the dose rate from your extensive scan data to correct the age under estimations. Yeah, that's one of the next stages. Yeah. And Zoe, Zoe out from. Did you consider radiocarbon dating plant macros as well as comparing them to the human and humic fractions. Yes, we did. And there's Derek. I'm going to highlight it earlier today that the, there's quite a bit of compression and actually there really weren't any plant macros that were being identified. Kind of within the Pete so we were stuck with humic and human fractions. Okay, and we've got one more question here from Michael Grant. Did you attempt an EK felt spa dating. No, we haven't done. Short and sweet.