Morning everybody. It's 4 a.m. I'm about to head to the airport It's just down the street. My flight leaves at 6 35 a.m. We're headed home. We're leaving Louisville, Kentucky We'll be back in Winnipeg, Manitoba later around noon Had a really good time at Matt's It's time to go home. Quick before we get started today's show-dote goes to our friends at Beaver Bitcoin BeaverBitcoin.com slash Trepper Josh is where Canadians can go to stack Bitcoin It's a non-custodial site, so you buy Bitcoin from them and they put it directly into your own personal lawn Go check them out. The link is down below in the description below the video Let's get back to it ready to go I got everything back in Winnipeg Gotta go through customs. It's nicer weather here than in Minneapolis. We made it neighbors beside me this dodge and That SUV and the vehicle behind me there Are the same ones that were there when I parked here, so I know that no one parked beside me and opened their doors and banged my truck Couldn't ask for anything better than that. The temperature here is minus 7 Celsius Which is approximately minus 20 Fahrenheit. Not minus 20, just 20 Fahrenheit. Excuse me 20 Fahrenheit. Let's go home. It's my son's birthday. Get out of here. I already paid for my parking for two days $72. That's the economy parking Winnipeg Winnipeg Winnipeg. Everything's gone up so much. Okay, how do I get out of here now? How do I get out of here? I don't want to be in here anymore. I think it's that way. I think it's this way Exit sortee this way Okay, you don't want to stay too much longer. They're gonna charge me more They have a little sign on there saying you better leave the parking lot in 10 minutes or you get extra charges. What? Haven't you done enough? A birthday to get home to. Excuse me. Left. Okay Pretty sure this is where this goes No, that's where it goes Yes, I won't try to put it in the wrong one Ah, there we go. Flags are still at half-mast here in Canada. Late Prime Minister Mulroney Brian Mulroney passed away. Okay, that completes the trip. No more fees or anything Just the drive home. Back on my own soil. No dirty soil.  It's some spring cleanup to happen. The last second as the left lane ended There's only one he dove in front of this guy hauling the greater. That went surprisingly smooth They're building an overpass here over Over the perimeter at St. Mary's Road on the south side of Winnipeg. Finally Finally, I've only been saying we needed one for about 10 years Apparently, they're gonna completely modernize this south perimeter highway into an actual freeway in The next 30 years. So we got something to look forward to this will help traffic move incredibly smoother But it's not gonna help too much until they also do Route 90 or Bishop Grand not Bishop Grand of Keniston and St. Anne's Road Which is the next interchange so until then I mean this will help but it won't do much until then But at least they're doing something right there There's more Who's that? Who's that? Oh a tag very nice tag.  Oh Boy, that's fun. I expect you to know how to back up by the time you're two


We'll sprinkle that over the chicken and Then if you can Let this hang out at room temperature for maybe even just 10 to 20 minutes Let that seasoning really melt in it'll give you a better overall product once you're ready to cook Now for the fun part you can use a skillet a walk is always great for fried rice, but a skillet works fine Make sure it's really hot before the oil goes in we're going to use about a tablespoon of olive oil We'll add the chicken carefully and then spread this out to get as much surface area as possible With the brown sugar in the barbecue rub This is going to brown pretty quickly and the chicken will cook within two to three minutes I mean, it's not going to take long. You see a few of my pieces. Maybe you got a little too brown but Excuse me for filming So once that's cooked once the chicken is 165 internally check a few pieces, especially bigger pieces Once that's fully cooked transfer to a bowl and the skillet will go back on the heat Then we'll add about two tablespoons of olive oil Carefully add in that frozen cauliflower rice kind of shake it stirred around but it get coated in the oil And then we'll cover this but it hang out for about five minutes Once the rice is completely thawed and you start to get some little crispy going them round bits on the bottom Give everything a stir and you create a center well So just push everything to the sides give yourself some space to scramble two eggs in the center You'd rather push everything to one side use the other half the skillet That's fine, too This is going to sound a little hypocritical because I just poured those from a bowl But I'll typically crack these straight in the pan But couldn't handle the shame of if I messed that up on camera if you'd rather put them in a bowl like that Whisk them together. That's totally fine. You know, you just want to get these in the pan Get them scrambled. You can get them as brown as you want as soft scrambled as you want No need to stress too much over these eggs. You can even leave the eggs out But once you've got them cooked scrambled however you like we're gonna just mix that in with our rice And then it's time for the real money maker the sauce So this is two tablespoons of Bakken's Japanese barbecue sauce, which I love going off the ingredient list I'm gonna say it's a blend of a tomato based barbecue sauce with soy sauce Toasted sesame oil and mirin if you wanted to take a stab at making your own You can use really any barbecue sauce or just soy sauce. Just get something in here with only two tablespoons You don't want to go totally crazy.  It's been resting. No need to re-heat or re-cook here This is a pretty fast recipe. You'll just want to get it back in the pan together Mix everything together and then we'll plate it And we'll garnish with scallions or chives like I did here some toasted sesame seeds and black sesame seeds A little chili oil or chili garlic crisp is what I used here. I'm obsessed with the SMB chili crisp And you can even hit it with a little drizzle of the Japanese barbecue sauce if you have it Can't go wrong with this. Hope you enjoy


Let's get started by finding out why observation alone is not enough to answer our questions about the world. Remember that questions play a central role in our endeavor to find out things about the world. All insight at some point had something to do with a question. A moment of thinking, ha, that's weird, I wonder why this is so, or how does this work, or what if? From the previous chapter, you remember that some questions are harder to answer than others, and that there are questions where we are doubtful if we can answer them at all. Therefore, it makes sense if we try to formulate our questions in a way that gives us a good chance to answer them. Sometimes, we ask metaphysical questions. Those are questions about whether certain things exist in reality. For instance, scientists wonder if there is a soul and how it can manifest physically. So the question is, does the soul exist? Sometimes we ask normative questions. Should people who evade taxes be punished? Should you lie? Are there lies that are permissible because they provide greater good? These are questions about what is right and wrong, good or bad, and what should or should not be done. Some questions we ask are those that try to determine features of certain things. Which shape does DNA have? How tall is the European population? What features are included in the decision process when you decide whether to buy red or green apples? Those are descriptive questions that try to describe something very well. Mostly, the kinds of questions scientists are interested in are those of the type, does A cause B? For example, does taking vitamin supplements regularly make it less likely that people get a cold in the fall? In other words, does vitamin supplement ingestion cause reduced levels of the common cold? Why is the sky blue? Or in other words, which feature of the sky causes it to appear blue to us? Those are questions that deal with causal relationships. They deal with making precise predictions of what happens to a thing if something that is causally related to it changes. They also deal with explaining how these mechanisms work. What kind of questions you ask has to do with the philosophy of science that you follow in which area of science you're interested in. What do you believe the relevant questions are? And what do you believe are questions that you can answer? What would a good answer look like for the question that you are asking? The types of questions you ask and what you think is a valid answer to them will often also determine which methods you use to answer them. Normative questions are those that philosophers and legal scientists might ask. They usually deal with interpreting what we think makes sense, with philosophical and moral rules and how they should be applied to different situations. Often these sciences rely on verbal arguments and on thought experiments and on logic. Natural scientists are often interested in causal types of questions. They often want to predict what happens when we do something and come up with technologies, strategies and mechanisms to control the world that we live in. Thought experiments and the natural sciences are not quite enough. For this type of question, you need observations of real life. The idea is to see if the predictions you make work out and if the explanations you have of relationships can indeed be found in the world. In the context of medicine, for instance, causal questions try to distill the causes of illnesses to basic biological, chemical and physical functions. Natural laws that predict why and how and when someone will have a certain illness. In psychology, we try to predict behavior, feelings and thoughts as driven by personal and situational factors. We try to make these causal claims based on empiricism. We observe if the things we predict happen. Where do these questions come from originally? Usually, also from the real world. After all, if you haven't seen anything, how can you ask yourself how it works? Or why it works the way it does? By seeing things, what I mean is that you observe the world around you, that you listen to and read about what others think about the world. Or did you learn about scientific evidence about something and think further about it? Then you formulate speculations about causal relations. Why do you think X happens? You speculate, maybe because of Y. Then you go into the real world to observe if this is really the case, or if it isn't. Let's try an exercise about asking questions and coming up with speculations that might be interesting to investigate in the real world. Let's begin with this exercise. Pick an object in your immediate vicinity. For me, that's my woolly hat. What's your object? Describe it and its functionalities or activities. What are you looking at? What does it look like? And what does it do? Next, ask some more questions about the object, its looks and its functionality. Why does it look the way it does? And how does it do the things it does? Finally, try to come up with some speculations or hypotheses to try to answer the questions you asked yourselves in the previous step. Take some time to complete this exercise and then return to this video so we can move forward together. Okay, now let me tell you more about my hat. My hat is black and it's made from wool. It's been knitted from wool in a shape to fit an average adult head. It's a one size fits all item and it has an artificial fur bobble on top because that's fashionable right now and buying real fur is considered cruel. It's winter here at the moment and it's quite cold outside so I have this hat with me to keep me warm. The function of the hat therefore is to help me preserve a comfortable body temperature despite adverse outside conditions. Next, some more questions I could ask about this hat. Why does it keep me warm? Why is wool a good fabric for preserving warmth? Why is it not fit more tightly? Wouldn't that help keep me warmer? I think that's an interesting hypothesis. I wonder if my hat would keep me warmer if it fit more tightly. Next step, speculating. I think that the fit of the hat determines how warm it'll keep the wearer. In other words, my prediction is that tighter hats make people feel warmer. All right, so how do I find out if this is true? Let's not try to think of an observation we'd have to make to address our speculation. Which circumstances would I need to observe to see if my speculation is wrong? In the example of my hat, let's focus particularly on the last question I formulated. Wouldn't a more tightly fitting hat keep me warmer? What I could do now is observe. I could go outside on a cold day and ask everyone who's wearing a hat how warm their head feels. I'd distinguish how tightly fitting the hats are by looking at them. Then I would know if people who wear a more snugly fitting hat feel warmer than people who wear a hat that fits only loosely. Here's another exercise. Let's see if we can find ways to answer our questions about your object. How would you answer your hypothesis about the object by observation? Pause the video and think about it. Now, that seems like a good way to go about answering our question, right? So why would you even think that this kind of observation alone could not be enough? Let's go back to the example of my hat. I wanted to go out and ask people how warm they feel and compare if people who wear more snugly fitting hats feel warmer. What could go wrong? Quite a number of things as it turns out. People's hats may differ in more ways than just in the fit. For instance, some people may have hats made of different materials or knit more loosely so that the specifics of their hat may impact their hats' ability to keep them warm. Also, it may be windier or colder when I ask one person than when I ask the next person. Finally, the people themselves may have different characteristics. Maybe people who have longer hair feel wear-protected against the cold by their hat already and think that their hat makes no big difference, although someone who's bald would disagree. Do people also wear a scarf? Maybe a scarf-hat combination is extra effective in making people feel warm. So the external circumstances in which I conduct my survey may influence how effective people feel their hat is keeping them warm. I'm sure you could come up with more examples of things that we could miss. Now, revisit your own example from earlier. Pause the video and think about which problems you might encounter while trying to find an answer to your question using observation only. So what we have done is shown a number of alternative explanations for why people may feel their hat is more or less effective in keeping them warm. Other than the one explanation we were originally interested in, that is the fit of the hat. What we want, though, is to exclude alternative explanations so that we can isolate a certain explanation of an effect. We want to make sure that we find out what the influence of one thing is on another. We want to make sure that what we learn informs us about exactly that relationship and is not clouded and obscured by other influencing factors. Isolating a certain relationship is tricky when you only have observation as a tool, though. Why? Well, because there are hundreds of possibilities for alternative explanations. We would have to record everything about the situation and try to find one that is exactly comparable to another. And just from our little exercise before, you can tell that this will be immensely difficult, if not sometimes impossible. That's why we often rely on experiments where we have these things under control. Nevertheless, there are things that you simply cannot do in an experiment. For instance, you can't assign people to different gender or to different nationalities or personality traits at the snap of your finger. To study such categories, we therefore have to rely on naturally occurring variation and we cannot quite run an experiment. So there are some limits to where you can do experiments and sometimes observation is all we have. In such cases, we have to be extra careful about the inferences we make. In this part of the course, we have exercised our ability to ask questions about our surroundings and to make speculations about the world. We have also practiced coming up with ideas how we could answer our questions using observation. At the same time, though, we have seen that observation alone is not always enough because it cannot guard us against alternative explanations. Alternative explanations make it hard or even impossible to say if the question we were originally interested in has been answered properly. And by properly, we mean that we isolated the relationship we are interested in and make sure this is indeed the question we are addressing without clouding our answer with noise and error. Sometimes, though, observation is all we have. In the next part of the course, we will take a look at what we can do instead of only relying on observations, running experiments.


Hi there. Welcome back to the Workforce Identity Developer podcast. This week, I'm joined by Jeff Taylor, who's a Senior Product Manager on the SAS platform team here at Okta. It's a heck of a job title, Jeff. What does it mean? We deal a lot with just the overall developer concerns. So a lot of my responsibilities, first and foremost, are centered on what a team we call the Developer Community Products. And this is just building tools like our management SDKs to make our developers successful in building with Okta. Another part of my role is actually working with the Okta integration network. And this is dealing with another class of developers that are integrators, looking to build solutions that can be used by all of our Okta customers. So as you can see, I spent a lot of my time in the technical arena, but also thinking about things like product and moving us forward. So success metrics and everything are driven based on how well our developers can build on Okta as a platform. Yeah, absolutely. And a lot of that building that folks are doing is automation in some way. And I really like the way that you articulate the automation journey or almost loop. How do you describe that? Yeah, I really liked the term journey. When I was coming up, the first clue I got into architecture was on the application continuum. I like classic movies. So this was how I learned how to live with a monolith. So I do like this concept of being able to transition in phases and to not look at your in-state as the ultimate barrel toes of finish line goal. To be okay in the states that you're in and to recognize the signals and the catalyst with which to mature. And the application continuum would move from monolith all the way to fully distributed microservices. And I've been applying this to other areas. And one of the great ways that we can apply this here to automation is knowing when you are doing things manually in ad hoc and when's the right time to actually go into full blown full scale automation. It's a journey. You take different stages. There's different tools that you can use to help you on that path. And it's okay to be in one state versus another. It's just going to be a determination of what's right with your people and your corporation and all of the things that go into discover like when you are ready to take that next step. But to understand to first of all be okay with where you are and know when is the right time to invest to move forward. So what are the steps that you'll often see an organization pass through on that journey? There's a couple of interesting forks in the road, but it really just starts out with like just the manual stuff, right? In octet terms, like this is using our admin UI. So making changes to your policies, changing users and working through any number of things that you could configure. When we start to put some regularity to those changes, we start to notice that there's opportunities for mistakes to happen or unintended consequences, right? Like we might do something and then realize that we've changed something unexpectedly in another area. It's probably a good signal that we may want to standardize. That's another big term here, standardize on how these changes are made. And what we're trying to do is we're trying to basically not, not replace the human but put the human in a different position to gain some more oversight. Use them in a better way and not necessarily just like rip and replace like that's far too abrupt. But sometimes our painful moments are times that which we can, we can mature and change or other times are just when the frequency gets too large and we need to scale quickly, right? We noticed that we're having a lot of change requests coming in for a particular area and it might be easier for one operator to do things if they have a button to push as opposed to a number of steps to complete. And so those are like two scenarios that you can use as real gauges as to when you should be looking to employ a more automated solution. Another thing that I've personally seen is when you start having the long checklist, that's a cue that you know what you're doing to a level of clarity where you can explain it to a machine in a way that it will do what you expected. Yeah, I think there's a key item in there is the repeatable tasks, right? Once the repeatable tasks are very well known, good opportunity to start automating. What does the end game there often look like for the organizations that you see that are automating identity stuff? Not to bring too much prescription in here, but like we do see this with our advanced Terraform users where and I think Terraform is a really good technology to really describe like the strength of automation because you can do pretty much anything with your infrastructure. So while you know I work for Octa, I think identity is super important in the whole corporate infrastructure. It is a small piece of a much larger ecosystem where you have machines, you have operating systems, you have networking, you have all sorts of peripherals and additional applications that are going into your ecosystem to help run your business and increase and stay and have productivity stay on a much higher level. So it's important to understand that like in these advanced organizations that are employing large-scale automation, they're running all of these aspects in concert and usually there's a single thread of technology through that and that's what Terraform provides. It's a way that I can orchestrate and automate just pretty much anything in my infrastructure including the identity to make sure that it's all done smoothly without manual intervention so environments can be stood up and torn down very quickly. If I like a couple of really great examples are if I need to add another environment say I have a dev and a prod and I need want to introduce a UAT to involve my customers to test pre-production material. Terraform is a great way to actually build that. The other thing is when I say we need to expand into another region we're talking about globalization. It's really hard to do that and also make sure that you have the right controls in place for actually crossing those thresholds into other sovereign nations. You want to make sure all of that is instrumented and written down most importantly. That's what Terraform gives you. You can check all that in You can read through the setup as you would like any type of manual or any output of diagnostics before you create and then also check and make sure that's synchronized after creation. There's a number of scenarios that you see as companies going. I like to give these examples because you may or may not be in one of these situations where it might be good to start looking at something like this just to standardize and make sure everything stays sane as you look to increase your reach and improve your business. That auditability can be another huge clue or cue that you want a bit more automation. You want the automation to not only be doing the task but also logging appropriately that it happened rather than trusting a human to remember another step. That's a really good point to go into and that's one where you see this in the processes, translating the verbal description of what's changing with the actual machine instructions of the change. Being able to match those things together is a very important concept especially for auditability. It's not just like I don't want people to assume that this is about who made the critical change that took the infrastructure down. This is really just about the visibility into how your environment is changing. You can look at these modalities and what's been changing over time if you are recording this. It also gives you these added protections as well. You can make sure that the right people have access to run these things. I think these are also good tangential benefits to building automation into your daily workflow and processes to help non-business users understand what's actually going or non-technical business users understand what's going on with the technology and the infrastructure that's being built. That need for accessibility of knowledge about what's happening to an increasingly diverse group of backgrounds and group of knowledge bases as an organization grows ties into something that we sometimes talk about among ourselves. We sometimes call it corporate maturity where I think most listeners will have the intuition that the best tool when you're a tiny little startup is probably going to be different than the best tool for the same job when for a huge enterprise or for a government just because they're under such different constraints and have such different risk profiles. How do you think about that maturity model? Yeah I think there's a understanding kind of where you are, what industry you're sitting in, what are your guardrails and for regulation and whatnot. Those are really important to understand what your next steps would be. If you're a traditional like you're just a startup you're starting out and you're trying to like figure stuff out remember like that's why I love the application continue and we want to be able to respond quickly like it also means that you might not have as congealed processes because you want to get changes out very quickly. So it's a little bit loosey-goosey when you're when you're making these changes but either the moment you have important customers like you've landed your first enterprise customer or your first really large customer and that site goes down and really it's like well we've got to tighten things up because we can't really afford to have this happen so that we you know have these have these Mars on our on our reputation so you want to level up you know and I think it really just it depends it's a good way to pay attention to what's going on around you. I think another good thing is when you start to understand that data that you might be bringing in or housing might be more sensitive so you want to make sure that changes are a little bit more rigorous or you're going for like you're going into different areas where like you want to get into government and so you want to get fed ramp security there's a lot of controls that you might have to implement some of that precipitates down into the technical world with things like infrastructure's code and so you want to be more responsive to your customers in those areas and be able to adjust quickly without years and years of toil to kind of get on on that speed so I think like there's a lot that goes into that maturity it has to deal with you know your size so how many people I didn't even talk about this how many people are touching the code once you get to a critical master those like I can't like I can't just like look over and say you know hey hey hey Emily like what are you doing here with with this piece of code like can we can we take a look at this together you've got thousands of engineers you've got hundreds of engineers across the globe you need tighter controls over like who's checking in so you need to use things like source control all this stuff happens so you've got your corporate complexity like how your size and your makeup and your distribution you've also got your business areas so the industries that you're applying to you've got the data that you're looking to create or protect or assets that you're creating for your users and also you've got your own scale like what does your footprint look like for your infrastructure sometimes that may outpace your you know building AI solutions that we have now you need more compute power right you got to be able to scale very quickly so that would change the complexity of your automated deployment so there's all these things that you're paying attention to and I think the most concrete advice I could give is every once in a while just take a step back take a deep breath like look at some of these axes right how many developers do I have accessing my infrastructure in my code how many industries am I in what kind of data am I providing and protecting for my users and then what is what is my needs for compute on the back end those four axes can give you a good clear idea of when the right time to mature is I even think it's like that complexion one is roped into your processes your people all of these things so I think you I think with that you've got a good base to cover and when you can when you can start thinking more seriously about automation and with automation as with just development in general you're thinking about looking for that sweet spot between speed and safety where if you're just prototyping a brand new product the worst thing that could happen might be that you take two years too long and someone else beats you to market and now you're not a company whereas if you're really established like the worst thing that might happen might be a down time or a breach at a really crucial moment so the threat models if you look at it from the pessimistic angle change so much across the different scales and one thing that I would throw in as well is that you kind of want to be mindful of the scale and the threat model not only of your own business but also of your customers if you're selling software in any way because that will inform what they're looking for and looking to buy absolutely it's only 100 agree but automation though is going to let us sort of build this institutional memory of things that have happened in the past and get that blend of speed and safety I really like that term of institutional memory because all of this being codified is there you know for posterity right like we look at like our github logs right like aside if you're doing like you know a forced push in your racing history all like the crazy things that we've been through but in general right yes like you you've got the full lineage right I think that's one of the that's one of the holy grails that that security actually looks to give us like do we have a full chain of custody like from the time that a you know the code is actually written into the moment that it reaches production do we have like clear insight into that whole journey and like that's a that's a great way to build you know the muscle for improvement just as much as like you're building the muscle for like releasing right so you know exactly what you've done in the past so you're not doomed to repeat right like that's always what we what we hope is that we're continually improving not repeating the mistakes of the past yeah and every new test that you add in your automation every new consideration that you add is usually either because someone had the thing happen to them and says I don't want that to happen again or because someone foresaw the thing happening I said well I don't want that to happen at all or I do want this to always happen or that worked really well so let's have this happen again in a way it's sort of this encapsulation of what all of your colleagues have known including your past self yes exactly that anthropomorphization that we can do is fun is helpful do you think that that ties into how we change our automation as we go on how we think about adding removing tests and reasoning about what belongs in it the testing is a really interesting one so I'm a big believer in in test driving your development I think it provides a lot of clarity between product and engineering to create changes in code which leads to safer you know better more resilient code in the long term I've actually like in my past I try to explain explore like putting this into practice with infrastructure as code modules like can we do the same thing building testing in with this that same same kind of outcome and I do believe that it's possible I know Terraform has this plan that we can run and we can always introspect into the plan and see what is what is actually going on before it's actually being applied and built and this becomes really important because when we're going and we're making like we're making production infrastructure and sometimes we're making production infrastructure in places where price matters right like maybe ec2 or the cloud compute like yeah google cloud like depending on when in history we are price will matter much more or much less yeah and like nobody wants to wake up in the morning with a huge bill for compute because they've over allocated right like that's a it's a real problem so you know doing this like running these tests and making sure that things are set up correctly or having ways that you can even extend your infrastructure as code to test and make sure that the compute numbers and everything it's all very essential and making sure that your environment is exactly the way that you intended right like I think that's always good and you have more flexibility like this is one area where you would seem like if I'm just a person at a terminal trying to like create an instance and like ec2 I can immediately get that feedback but you can't do that at scale right like and that's that's the thing is like you might get that in a very very small mirror box but like having to horizontally scale that workflow it's just not going to work so your next best thing is to work with testing in the automation frameworks and I think this is a great way to prove out the concepts especially like if you want to add another environment and especially getting something closer to prod you you know you're taking on more expense but you always want to figure out if it's if it's worth what it's going to cost to get there and I think these tools are what's you know these testing tools are the ways that we can actually evaluate that on an even playing field without having to expend so much cost when you talk about scaling like that moving it shifting from I want a machine to I want the machines is sort of the backbone of automation it turns your single action from a smaller scope thing to a larger scope to action that takes you a similar amount of thought to decide to take to decide it's the right time a similar amount of work to execute and yet it has so much more impact yeah absolutely I think this is like one of the things where we turn our like individual statements into superlative statements not like like you just you said like I want one machine to do but like no I want all the machines to be a certain way right like that's that and that was something like in the early 2000s and 2010s like we were always looking for it's like machines have to be like for like and before this was at the cost of cloud computing like there wasn't really a great way to do this with like infrastructure on the ground and there were not really great ways at that time with the segments of EC2 instances which is the only thing that was available like you could say well I want a large like I want somewhere between a large and an extra large but I don't really have a choice so I'm going to have to pick one or the other now with all of the things being like you know more precise like we're able to to make these decisions at a much more heightened level so I think it's just great to see that we can do like we can make these statements like I can assure that every machine is working identically in a large ecosystem I can assure like from octave perspective I can assure that every organization I have has the same policies set up in the same grouping set up so everyone's experience is standardized across wherever wherever you are whatever tenant you're in so I do believe like that's a that's a really key thing that we can do to you know assure that we're able to continue scaling the business but we're not worried about slowing down the infrastructure to get there. So let's say that an auto admin is currently just doing everything by hand so the concrete case of this general automation journey that we've been talking about today and how are they going to know that it's time to start thinking about automating some of what they're doing. Well I do like the agile like listen to your emotions obviously this is coming from products so product we're obviously very much into user empathy but I do think that the the spark for innovation comes like it's born out of emotion and sometimes it's negative emotion like why am I doing the same thing over and over again. I really want to do this other shiny new thing that's really great that will help the company but I'm stuck doing the same repetitive task over and over again. I think this is like this is the infomercial saying there's got to be a better way well you know. It goes from get to to have to. Yeah exactly so and I think that those using those existential moments where people are like I got to find something else because I want to do this other thing great signals to explore and when you start to explore there's a couple of opportunities you have like one is using the API it's the most tangible thing that's right in front of you. I know like in the customer identity cloud we've got a full blown CLI that allows you to explore all the objects and everything that's a really great way to navigate your way do both things I think CLIs do a great job of this navigate and a headless experience through all of the objects and contained in an application or platform and to allow you to start putting those pieces together in like a scripting type form again you can do this with the API it's a little bit more complicated because you have to deal with authorization and all that great stuff but still possible the point is you know the steps you start instrumenting the steps in a more deliberate and programmatic way through CLI or API and then you just package those things together either with bash and you know the added instructions that you have from CLI and maybe a bash script that uses a bunch of girl commands that can do a lot of these things right together but you start putting those together now you've got like these scripts and you start putting these scripts to uses like maybe building them into your you know an internal self-service tool or something like that and then you get to the larger and you're dealing with like user requests like I need to move to a group and like okay well I can figure this out with approvals and whatnot but when you start saying like well I got to like move a policy between development and production what's going to happen there they need something that's a little bit better right like you want to be able to get that into source control at that point because you're talking about a change request you want to be able to adhere to your change control process and move that along the with all the rigorous testing and whatnot and so now that's a good signal for you to start building something with like Terraform or not so you I think now now you've started to get like I think in this question we're building concretely how I move from like I'm doing the same repetitive task over and over in the admin UI I'm exploring and learning and cobbling together the pieces through an API or an admin or sorry an admin CLI and then now I've like I'm in a full blown like doing everything with scripts but now I need to actually start moving over the infrastructure like the bare bones things that we need more oversight on that's a good signal to use Terraform. Yeah and I think you're also touching here on an important way that the learning curve is split between the different parts of itself so the first time when you're like figuring out what API calls even need to be run what even is happening under the hood in octa there's part of it is you're learning your CLI or your SDK whatever you're using but another big part of that learning curve is you're just figuring out the language of what's happening in the identity provider you're learning to describe what you want it to do and so when you imagine how hard is it going to be to shift from let's say the API to the CLI switch or shift from the CLI to Terraform something like that or even potentially to shift from something that's lower code like a workflow to something that's a bit higher code to give you a bit more customizability or integrate more tightly with something else then it's not going to be quite as hard as you'd expect because you're not going to have to relearn that internal vocabulary you'll go oh here's here's the outcome I wanted here's how I can check through the console that it happened the way I thought it would yeah and I think that's a great way to to sort of summarize all of it it's like in the one hand you spend you spend most of your time learning octa right like in that admin UI you're learning octas like names and objects and object models and relationships you're then applying octa in real world scenarios in this next step with our SDKs API and CLIs all of that then next step is you're then you're saying I'm ready for the next thing which I think is a real key differentiator because learning Terraform Terraform is backed by the configuration language the hash of configuration language or HGO so you're learning something a little different it's based on go so if you don't even know go you're gonna start to learn go and then start to learn this HGO but there's a there's a there's a definite carrot at the end of that which is like this full blown automation and now I'm applying my learning of how to navigate octa and its object model in conjunction with all of my other ecosystem as well so like now I'm putting that into place in the grandest scheme so it's you know it's learn octa then learn octas object model with the intent to apply and make changes and then make those changes at scale with with any platform but each level of that builds and I would say like energy for the next layer of investment as you start to see benefits from it again why I think the journey is so important embrace the stages that you're at because you're learning all of this there's no there's no rush again you're just paying attention to the signals that are coming in so you know when you're ready to jump and you're not leaping before you're you're ready yeah and more than just energy you're building skills you're building skills that will apply to other use cases so you build the terraform skill and then you want to automate something else that also has a terraform provider it's going to be so much less hard than you thought it would be if you're comparing it to when you also had to learn the basics of terraform you want to build something else that uses an SDK in your language that you've been picking up it's going to be that much easier because you're that much more familiar with the language so I think making sure not to discount the reusability of the skills that you build through the automation journey is really important yeah I think it's like a similar analogy is like it's much easier to multiply if you understand addition than it is to learn multiplication just right off the gate so I think like building on the skills allows you to take these natural extensions and really like level up and I think the great thing that you put in there is yes you're learning skills like everything that you acquire skills and knowledge and just as I mentioned that multiplication analogy shifting between terraform providers is extending what you already know based on a very core common concept so it's just then translating the knowledge of terraform with someone else's object model and resources that are modeled in their provider yeah and one thing that I personally really love about open source tools like terraform open standards like OIDC is that skill is transferable any IDP that uses OIDC is my OIDC knowledge is going to apply any organization that uses terraform the terraform knowledge is going to apply and so it's an investment in that you get to keep as well as something that your team gets to keep and benefit from indefinitely for as long as the problems that you automated keep being addressed by your automation yeah and I think it's like you know a little historical note here like we terraform terraform has been around for a while it wasn't necessarily like the it's been a very popular tool for a long time but it wasn't necessarily the only tool I think the statement that you're making here just sort of lends testament to like where it's come over time and how it is more of a standard before it was an option and now it feels more like a standard for development we hear this again from our customers a lot that they really love it but it is important to call out that like even when you're still talking about infrastructure as code and managing infrastructure that like it's really really important to understand these skills do translate even to these other tool sets because a lot of the a lot of there's a lot of similarities there so again you're translating it's the same way if I'm moving from maybe like moving across like back in languages right like there's a lot of syntactical knowledge but like understanding how to build server side applications is still going to transfer to some extent so you're just you're learning how to apply that in these different arenas but I think like again doubling down on what you said like building those skill sets making those skills transferable if you come into like a company that uses something different or like you need to move into low code so these principles will still apply and you can still apply them with a lot of success in these different areas it's like how math is still going to be math no matter what human language you've described a given concept in and the final thing that I'd ask you about our example of someone who's automating tasks they're doing day to day in octa is that as the adoption of their automation grows what challenges are they going to run into in terms of people being surprised by it or having all these demands of it and how would you suggest that they handle this yeah we're actually hearing about this in a little bit from customers that are looking to incorporate more automation like this is part of the journey we taught we talked a lot over the course of this podcast about like you know how to get started when you know the signals but you didn't really touch on as like where the rubber meets the road right like okay and I'm going to take a group and I'm going to have them automate all of their changes and I still have some I still have some users that are doing manual changes like what am I going to do here so one of the things that we start to do is like you can definitely experiment with automation but I think the most important thing to do is to incorporate automation in with your normal change process again if you think about it you've got two processes that might be competing for attention well like you just need some piece over top that can help normalize both right so like if you have something like a change advisory board or some change control system committee that meets regularly like bring your automation changes to it along with those manual changes and work on that translation between the code to business or business to code bringing all of these diverse backgrounds in in conjunction with those manual changes and that is a way that you can start like leveling the playing field so you can start to move more of your manual changes to automation the other things you can do is like look at areas where you have maybe some frequency of change that's comfortable to you and lower risk of of issues and start there as well right like if you're changing maybe maybe like you'd say it's you know prepod prepod policies let's say like you would you you know that there's going to be some impact but it's localized to internal but you want to make sure that all those are going through automation this is where you can work out a lot of those growing pains right so making that first selection is a is a really great way to step through this process and then also incorporating it in with your larger change management processes are some really tangible things to do to get started along this journey we could do a whole other episode on the considerations around config drift and what to do about it which sounds like it'd be a lot of fun to do sometime I do think so yes for now I hope that gives you a taste of what you're looking at in the automation world let's you think yeah actually that boring thing that annoying thing that darn checklist that I don't want to mess up I should be making some system do that for me so hop on into the comments and share your stories of automation tell us where you're at and what questions you have and I'll hope to get those answered on future podcasts so thank you for joining us thank you for having me this was great


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Right here where Oregon grow and we're about to see one of the craziest organ duct collections in the world Let's just go ahead and get into it and start cracking open all these cases and let's do a bunch of stuff over there stuff over here, too Let's go through the bronze first some of my favorites. These were really the first Oregon Nike Collab that involved like a pro athlete right like a pro shoe model. So these came out and I think 2005-2006 range the LeBron twos Ducks like Malik Harrison Bryce Taylor were wearing these and this was right about when I first started collecting Oregon shoes and Just fell in love with these. I think I like the whites a little bit Just brings back so many memories and nostalgia from that era that time seeing the players, you know growing up in here and stuff so just really clean shoe and LeBron actually wore these in the 2016 championship parade In Cleveland, which was so cool after you know ten years later or whatever it was for him to break these out So really really cool those like did you get those around that time or was it later? Or like when you got those I probably got those like a year or two after they came Okay, so it's roughly around that time probably would have been like the price of purchasing those back then $300 bucks, okay, which we'll get into the price of these J's because I'm sure we both have the same memories of like the Pricing and how it was then compared to now, but what are those worth now today in current time? Those don't transact a lot because there's not a lot of those hard to find They're not a lot of those out there. Both of these are dead stock. Actually. I've never worn either pair even though I want to wear the white ones. I Would probably say four to five grand. Okay now before we get too deep into this case Is this so this what year was this though? Oh seven. Oh seven. This is I'll say this came next kind of right Yeah, this so what you got up here on top. These are the Air Force one 25s that they came out in 07 And they gave like I think to the basketball and football teams So they all came out around the same time There's a green pair there too. Green's got the cool like checkered vibe. Yeah But kind of the translucent souls are really cool And got camo on the white ones and got the AF 25 chrome on the tongues And what I love about so many of the Oregon shoes is like that they always almost have something cool on the insult Some sort of duck graphic or duck hit. Yeah, these ones are starting to Redden and I've worn these a few times. So Very cool shoe Again, like I have no idea how to price these because they're nobody has them and this is the dope part about like Being in it for so long if you wanted to like build this collection now it's gonna be so hard to go find these sneakers and Especially these older ones and these random things to put sets together. Yeah, it just takes even more time Yeah, obviously more money to do it I think I got all three pairs of these on eBay in like 2010. Yeah That's right. That was I remember I remember I got my organs. Did you get the Oregon State Nines? No, okay I was just wondering because you know, I'm a duck's fan too, but I'm like it's hometown homestay I feel like I gotta get them just cuz but that was as a collector of me. I had to do it I have to go I don't I don't hate Oregon State as much as many duck fans do But I don't I don't need any orange cheese. I feel that I'm glad they only got one. Well, I guess too Okay Do you want to get into the forces or do you want to hit this side over here because I know there's a There's probably a bunch of old stuff over here Yeah, this gets a little newer so yeah, let's check out. All right, let's go over here on this side Take me behind the bar I see you brought some stuff out Yeah, I had to get a lot of this out of other closets and storage and things like that so You know pair of LeBron's basketball shoes. These were just Probably like four or five years ago. These LeBron 9s came out with the ducks on the tongue Not a very wearable shoe for me to wear around but and you could just buy those online VRs These are all baseball. Well, I'm not these these are all baseball. Okay I'm a big fan of the Oregon baseball team One of my friends is the head coach there and and he was an assistant back in the day So I love I love picking up the kind of the dad shoe mm-hmm the baseball dad shoe look That's dope kind of fun one so good quality materials on these two and again They got the bird like that flying on the insoles Some fun shoes. So, you know how they have like the warehouse sale or what I forgot the name of it Yeah, so where it's the surplus surplus. Yeah, there we go Like surplus sale is this kind of more of the environment where you get these type of sneakers from yeah You can go in and get them for a low and add them to the collection Yeah, like none of these none of these were for sale online So you kind of get them at the surplus sale oftentimes when coaches leave the school, right? They want to get rid of their stuff And so people know to reach out to me or you know, or you can find them on eBay resale stores things like that And then this gets into a lot of the like football kind of trainers that all came out mm-hmm Really cool. Oh my gosh. This is like a whole trainer era golden era, bro I've beaten a lot of these too I have tons of pairs that I used to wear these that I just threw away after wearing them down so much But like these were for the spring game. Yeah, the support your troops and where you bring the can of food to come to the game Yeah, come to the ice and remember that yeah, and then all the coaches have these on so got a pair of those I really like these white ones. Yeah, three am three am on them I'm probably gonna start wearing these actually this year. It's fun to like wear them to the football games and people are like Yeah, seeing those for years. So that's really fun. These are more retail drops. Yeah, I came out to the public Yeah, I remember this time and it was funny because they came out and they didn't really hit like that No, it was like if you're a duck's fan great, but like you almost kind of want to catch it on sale or something Yeah, and then now look at the prices. Everything's like four or five everything's four or five hundred bucks and like cool Chromo on the back and I may start lifting weights in these two like I have with these other Pair of trainers that I like these ones with the puddle duck on the back He's even great weightlifting shoes right wear out the tongue or wear out the toe Weight on her. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this is nice. I've quilted in soil. Yeah, this is nice. Yeah, it's cool shoe. Yeah and But yeah, like you could pick these up then and and just buy them on the Nike app Not even sneakers just regular Nike app and they had I don't even think sneakers was around at the time Yeah, it wasn't even around when you're all coming out because this was like 2009 10 11 12 kind of like that era Yep, I'm releasing damn. I'm just broke the memories of these I know you got the revises over there because the revises came out around the same time I'm just taking a trip down memory lane. This is like a just fun time for me to see and all this stuff like these shocks Oh my gosh, so little duck feet on them Come a funny shoe to wear like doesn't feel great But you know, it's definitely cool. I haven't seen these in so long and like it's like though besides Oregon colors That's the only like duck thing on them. But definitely a fun Walkdown memory lane kind of shoe there this again items that some you get online some you got to get from people surplus Oh, whatever may be they have a student store now that has Oregon duck sneakers available in the store now Oh, I haven't even seen that so I went in on the campus and There's what's that store right over there where it was like Taylor's or whatever the yeah Yeah, yeah, so they have a store and I seen they had the shoes available like different like regular shoes like this available They're like retail drop retail drop. So I need to go down there, right? So it's interesting seeing the change of all that before you told me that you also worked at Nike What was what was the story behind that? Yeah, so I'm from Eugene and then 1989 in between my Middle school and high school. They had a summer internship program. Okay, so I applied I was already playing basketball at the time that was my favorite sport and Jordan's I had a pair of Jordan ones and then I didn't get the twos And then as Jordan threes came out Was the winner right before I started working at the store and then so when I was working there I was unboxing Jordan threes all the original colorways And that got me even more hooked on sneakers working at the store there Then of course played through high school kept buying Jordan's all through that time And then didn't really collect until they started doing the Oregon. Okay collaborations. So early 2000 early 2000 I got you're like, okay, and I stayed away from like pretty much all of the You know what you'd consider more hype or well-known shoes of those eras and just focus on the Oregon stuff Um not until kovat did I really start to branch out pick up some off whites? Yeah, various other stuff that most people are more familiar of but Just collecting Oregon stuff alone is a lot of work And not not cheap these days especially I think it's crazy too because there's so many shoes coming out in a single year compared to before Yeah before really there was none, but now it's like, okay, you got one or two and then now You're like, okay every few quarters every quarter feels like there's a few shoes coming out with all the teams and all the different things It's crazy. And since I started posting them on social media. I have so many people who message me saying, oh, I got a pair of, you know PG threes from two years ago They've come out with so many or like all the all the shoes the basketball players wear just made me think of the Cobi's. Yeah, there's so many Cobi's so many PG's so many Durants Yanis shoes the Cobi eight now the Sabrina's like Sabrina. Yeah, there's so many shoes. That's like I can't even Right, I can't even go down that road. So I I focus now on on a little bit of specifics Right, uh, within the Oregon stuff. I feel that okay. Well, we got on this side over here This is like g r but organ duck based coloring. Yeah, it aligns with it. We'll get this is another pair We'll get into those in a second. These were a pair of uh customs I had made Okay, um got the O on them have my graduation year on the inside So just kind of a fun pair to wear and then I love it when they come out with g rs in my color because I can wear them all the time Um, really like these ones with the yellow on the tongue, you know standard Jordan threes stuff that everyone's seen but um Are fun to wear around especially because I have a lot of organ clothing. So you got some stuff down here I do like to do like to match um But even like like I got these for like 60 bucks online And then now there were hundreds After all the like sb, you know hype. Yeah stuff So, um, it's funny how that that all happens at what was once not popular Suddenly becomes really popular. So give me your opinion about the organ fire I feel like you are very qualified to talk about this people don't like hear me say it all the time Should we look at the difference between the two like check them out? um These are okay. Yeah, like I I had the originals and when they when they came out with these I know a lot of people were bummed like the value is going to drop at the peas I think it kind of brings a little bit more attention to the peas like they're special Yeah, because I've worn the peas since and people are like, oh man, those are different And even if they're not sneaker heads, they kind of notice that the the color on these is different. Um, this is more of a kelly green And the tongue's not reflected and a little bit different shape the duck on the back is just what Yeah, it makes the difference, but I do like how they got that murdered out in the middle with the laces and the uh Yeah, I think I think they did a good job on them. I gotta have a pair of organ slides. I got some at home too Uh, I got a different one, but you got to have some of those those are shock shockingly comfortable, too Yeah, I know she the is it lunar? Is that one lunar too? I don't know I know mine was like a lunar or something Some type of phone thing. I don't remember either way. Okay. What we got? Okay, yeah, it's kind of sad with sports illustrated You know kind of going out of I'm not officially out of business, but they just laid off like their whole staff Yeah, um, so I've I've collected most of the duck uh sports illustrated covers Got the one with pre-fontane on the cover over there from the 70s. So it's kind of a fun piece of memorabilia as well Yeah, so this is essentially The man cave, right? Like how did you even come about putting this all together shows us a little detail? Yeah, yeah We had a company up in in portland um Do laser metal cutting in order to make that duck and it actually uh can change colors if you know you want to see a Okay different background or whatever That's when we lose I changed it to red when one organ loses Um, so that's a fun thing and then all of this is reclaimed Timber due to the the tall furs. Okay. So it's kind of a Ode to the Oregon tall furs basketball team of having the reclaimed wood Um, and then you know the the shoe locker idea was my wife's kind of modeled after the famous Oregon locker rooms That's the uh in our old house. I just put them on bookshelves in my office instead of books And she's like let's actually when we built this house. She said let's actually design a A sneaker wall. That's though. I like that So most most wives get mad about the shoes. Yeah, she's good. That's good right there and then uh the o on the ceiling was um Our builder's idea who's actually a washington husky. So that's really brilliant But this is modeled after the basketball arena that has the yellow o on the bottom of the scoreboard So we did that and then uh the beams in that room are supposed to be like matte court Okay, the old the old basketball arena had the exposed beams. Okay the detail So yeah little details to to kind of honor, you know, Oregon sports venues. That's dope. Okay Take me to this side. We'll get into this. We got to talk about what's on that wall over there to Helmets everything. Yeah, some helmets memorabilia. This is uh a cave on thibodeaux signed helmet That a friend got for me that's addressed to me, which is cool And then these are some unique pictures that uh, we actually got from a photographer friend So this was an oregon beat washington a few years back The celebration in the end zone. So he's a professional photographer Who took these and they weren't published anywhere. So we're like, oh, let's get these printed out blown up Baseball bats as I said a big supporter of the baseball team Which is cool, but um, this one's custom for you Yeah, yeah custom for me But these are some of the the recent ones that oregon or no jordan ones But recent shoes that they've released as part of the the ducts of a feather Um Program which is part of the division street and il collective So all the money from these shoes went to oregon athletes So they've made special exclusive shoes on behalf of the oregon athletes So for this one in particular was the nft. Yeah, you had to buy an nft And then they made 120 pairs of these air maxes that Tinker redesigned and then he autographed each one and numbered them Um, but really a beautiful shoe like it's got nice rubber material on the swoosh and Cool interior with the o and the colors. I don't know if that's viewable Sono on the back and so and they're very very rare same rubber on the duck. Yep rubber on the tongue super dope So very high quality Might wear them. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. It's a tough call They made these dunks with the same kind of duck o on them I've got a second pair of those They they came out with like a thousand pairs of these so you can definitely find them So when you say came out also people remember So pe's goes to the players These ones in particular go to the players But also they do a separate batch that goes on the goat these in particular came all these two were on the goat website This was a separate drop through a different website But they go through that and then you can purchase it through there and it's a bidding process. I remember I called you What was that the eights? I think yeah, we were talking about the eights. We were collaborating on our bidding strategies We were different sizes. So it worked out. Yeah, we're trying to help each other. I find the best deal You know what I'm saying? Okay. These air force ones. I was just talking about this. I'm slacking I need to get a pair in my collection. These things are nice. Yeah, they're nice I'm not a huge air force one fan like wearing them. I feel a little blocky just on the shoe But I really like these like Metal eyelets and they got the hang tag with the o on one side Back and then nice material and then the cork insoles kind of a cool touch So these are just cool and then the reflective Um reflective liner on that is is a nice touch as well. Yeah, those are nice And then they just came out with these where they only did 10 pair. I walked in. I was like Wait, when did these drop and he was like, yeah, there's only like 10 of them. I'm like, okay Okay, that's this again was another goat auction Really? They only had 10 of them. When did this happen? It didn't get very much exposure. So Um the price between these two or where they made like a thousand of these and they only made 10 of these The price wasn't very much different. No way. So you're telling me I might be able to find a 13. You might you might uh-oh These are fire. These are nice quilted insole on these also the hang tag Shows that it's uh eight of 10 Um, these are actually like really not like even if it wasn't a gold on the back. Yeah The materials the execution shoe. This is a great. Is this all this patent leather right here on the liner Yeah, I'll say they do three in one there. Okay. What you got up in here in the case This is kind of a random mess of stuff Um, I just throw a lot of shoes and memorabilia in this on different times like these were the field generals They wore when they played in the national title. Yeah, I remember that mariotas year So that was like 2016 remember seeing them all uh coming off the bus with the sweatsuits and no I wore these to um a foot locker Um annual like sneaker black tie event in new york city. Okay, so It went with my tux and everything. So that was a fun time to wear those. That was dope got a lot of comments Um, these came out similarly available on goat Um, see that was the one I passed on. Yeah, I just don't like I don't like them I don't like it. Hey, but at least they wasn't like too expensive. So you didn't have to spend too much on them Kobe's Uh, these are hyper chases that again, I like I like the organ. Uh, yeah the details of the trees Harden wore a pair of these when he was a Nike aphid. He wore the organ ones with the Those on them. Those are fire. These heraches just came out. We're also a Goat auction with the money going to the players number those Um, they did. Yeah, okay. So they only made 345 pairs of these. I got lucky number 213. Okay I see you got a jersey folded up in here Do you go after like the gloves the jerseys the days to that or is it kind of like every now and they might be a gift every now Then I mean I I get some of the jerseys. I like these are the this was the other Oregon national title game they lost Um, so it's a little Michael James jersey. Yeah We went down to that game and watched in horror as Auburn, uh, kicked a field goal to win But these were the shoes that you're too You know got the like heraches, which are um, pretty rare tinker design these ones too with the the white duck and the black duck on the backs Um, the leather on those. Yeah, very very fun shoe. I like the elephant print. I'm a big big elephant print fan This was this idea or did they come out? Yeah, these were Nike IDs. So both both these ones and uh, so for a period of time Nike had Nike ID Nike by you and they allowed people to create like organ. Was there other colleges too? I don't remember. Yeah, they did. Yeah, there was other colleges too. Um, I just remember seeing everybody doing the organ versions Um, but yeah, you could create your own organ ID Air force one and different stuff high tops low tops different stuff. So honestly, I like this all green color ways fire Yeah, I just give you that old retro vibe. I like that too. Definitely clean But yeah, that's a good era. I was uh, I was slacking. I know I should have got a pair pair Lebron's autographed by Sabrina that she wore Um, Sabrina's been great like cool cool girl and cool woman and uh, great basketball player It was fun watching her shoot against Steph and the uh three-point shootout. Right, right and then uh, these are pit crew um I don't even know what they called these. Um They gave these to the pit crew 500 pairs Okay, and the pit crew is the Oregon student section at the basketball games So kind of like a blazer chuck taylor. I was talking uh Pretty sure it was Joey here and he was saying he was a part of like starting the pit crew Yeah back when it like began. Yep. I'm like crazy. He was you could see in front row. Yeah Like how how I started going from then and now like and then where it came with the shoes Which I think kind of brings us in to this wall the pit crew three we can show the threes But another stuff that came before that Starting here and going all the way through down to here are all the Jordans that they made specifically for organ sports teams. Um, and so it's Every starting in 2010 with the football team And then going all the way through all the various sports Um managed to grab every pair that's been made for a team. And so that's been like a Collection to complete and then to keep up with Um, some of them were pretty easy. Some of them were extremely difficult To uh to acquire. Okay. Let's start with the 2010. Yeah, pull them out. We'll show them what they look like and everything. Um But everybody thought it was the nines That everybody's like the first organ p e was the nines and we're like, no, it was the 20 This is how you open swiss. Yeah. Yeah, it opens this way. Yeah So these were uh jordan teams was the mod the team model of shoe Um, so they just took a standard shoe and then just slapped on the win the day Logo, which was the slogan of the football team at the time An organ sticker and a ducts team issue sticker. It's literally a sticker. It's just sticker on a shoe It's not even having it doesn't have a sample tag or anything like that But it was the first organ p e for jordan's first jordan's that came out. Yeah They definitely wanted a radar. These ones are like a couple hundred bucks or something. Yeah, you you don't have to pay much I mean if they're they're still rare, but nobody really wants them. Yeah It's like you can't find it, but at the same time. Yeah, I know what I was looking for it Not a super popular shoe. Okay, the nines Again, they got slightly better again took a Standard jordan model and then sewed an organ o on the back But at the time this wasn't a release because remember we saw this release later Yeah, they released the shoe later years later. Yeah Um, so yeah, so it was it was a unknown shoe at the time and the materials are pretty good Like kind of a nice suedey material But just an organ o and the o shape isn't even really like right perfect But gave these to the football team. Uh, I remember at the time everyone was so jealous of like, oh, man How do I get those? Um Didn't wasn't very hard. We were yeah, I remember during this time. We were literally trading retros Straight across for these these those and then when we got to the fours That's when it came like a thousand dollars 800 bucks started going right. Yeah for these. I'll be like I'll give you some hair sevens All right, like that's the type of trades we was doing back during this time. So Uh, did you get these in that era? Yeah, I got them. Okay Probably a year most of them take a little bit of time before they yeah So those were only a couple hundred bucks. Okay, um the threes the threes So jordan three is my favorite model going back to when I worked at that nike store I also just find that they're very comfortable very wearable I had a pair of these that I got in Probably a year or two after the pit crew got them. Okay Um Warm all the time like just everyday shoe that I was wearing probably paid. I don't know 300 400 for them And just beat them into the ground to the point that I threw them away So then probably five or six years ago Um a friend of mine in portland Was at a oregon fundraiser auction up there and was like hey, I know you he didn't even know much about shoes And he was like hey, they have an autograph pair of tinker half field jordan threes. Are you interested in bidding? And I was like absolutely and he's like, what's your max price? And I was like, I don't know $5,000 And ended up getting these for significantly cheaper than that just because nobody They didn't know I didn't care nobody knew or cared and Now if you auction these off they would be hard to get so Um, I'm always tempted to wear them but I'll say was it your size too? Yeah, it's my size That's crazy. Yeah, so due to the due to the autograph and everything I haven't worn them Which kind of kills me because I feel that I I love that color way And then you have the unpicked crews also People have to know about that version the unpicked crews So these ones have the clap these are clapping hands, which is tough to tell Yeah, which is supposed to signify the student section And then the pick crew logo on that side the unpicked crews don't have these two logos Just have the yellow and just have the yellow feet. I'm still looking for a pair of those Anybody? Yeah, if you got a pair of the unpicked crews And I know a couple of you out there I've talked to Not willing to sell. Yeah, let me know the unpicked crew is another sleeper In that time. Now, yeah, it's basically a sample. Yeah. I mean, it's like there's probably Less than 10 in existence or something like that. You don't see those too often. Um, Now actually I actually think they gave those to the track team I don't remember. I just remember like is how those I was like, why is it because I had a pair before and I'm like Why is it different? I don't know. Is this legit? And then I found out it was I was like, okay, that's good Because I like I got it for somebody here. But I just remember now what happened was they gave the unpicked crews to the track team Okay, and that's where those came from. Gotcha. So there probably was a little more than 10 pairs There's probably like either way 40 either way not a lot Um shortly thereafter they came out with the White version of they call a lot of people call them the pit crews, but they they've never had the logo. I call these the footballs Yeah, they gave them to the football team Um, beautiful shoe. I wear these ones, uh inside a lot oftentimes when we're playing road games Um, I like to wear them around the house.  Yeah, not weird It's so weird getting a little cracking, but it's not bad.  It looks good. It still looks good Still looks good. Okay. So I have my little two cents for this one Remember you was talking about the pricing and how they were cheap back then this one these two you could Come up to somebody and be like, I'll give you 500 for the set and they would have both and you'd be like 250 a piece Like I remember I paid 600 for my set But I was like I felt like I was spending a lot of money at the time and then you look at the prices now It's like three four five thousand ours like crazy To see the changes over the years and the prices. It's wild this one Was the one that made everything go crazy for college pees. Yeah, I don't care what anybody says. This was a shoe And and what are like just amazing shoe, right? Like my favorite the colors the metallic green The back just with the chromo Um, unfortunately, like this is the same metallic paint they used on the helmets at the time Yep, and weren't wasn't really meant to last so you'll see this cracking paint on A lot of these versions of these shoes also some cracking there, but I I wear these up so much tips for the people When you see cracking on an organ four that means typically it's a real pair Yeah, when you see these new pairs floating around and they don't got any type of cracking on them Like anywhere on it that's probably going to be a fake pair because this happened to literally everybody It's just like and then if you wear pants, I'm assuming you wore pants That just rubs it and it makes it fall off like rubs it makes always remind me of shorts because once I found out about that I was like, I can't wear what pants. Yep. It's uh, it's a gorgeous shoe though And like it was uh, also the episode or the netflix show sneaker heads Yeah, they the whole show they were trying to chase down this shoe Yeah, and so that also kind of made it even a little bit more legendary to like Have this be the the focus of a netflix show Was really cool. And there's there's some awesome photos of like dwayne wade kevin diran Like mba pros wearing these yeah, and they're fits when they come up to gain. So this was 2012.  That's kind of like what they was floating around that time and then The force came out On the on the basketball force. They're like, oh, well, these are more limited And the prices just started going crazy the duck man force Um, they gave these only to the basketball team. I hated on these for a long time You hate it on these. Yes. 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Now, just because they blow me away with a double leg doesn't mean I'm completely gone. Alright? I've just got to be able to absorb that energy and redirect it, okay? Not necessarily like a bullfighter because a bullfighter is more disappearing. We're actually getting hit by the bull and then trying to redirect the bull's momentum. So, as the double leg's coming in, okay, he's trying to take me straight back, forward to the side, okay, depending on what kind of double it is. I've got to take this energy and redirect it in like a circle, okay? I'm literally trying to redirect this energy in a circle so I can take all of his energy and make it my leg pass, okay? I didn't do very good in school. I wasn't very smart. I was terrible in math, but there's something about transference of energy coming into me here that I can kind of make it my own and turn it around the corner. I don't know what the term is for that, but I'm... Connecticut energy, boom, done. Private school kids got to love them, all right? So, I'm taking the energy towards my hips and I'm basically rerouting it around the corner. So that's what I want you to do. And he's going to go super slow. He's going to have inside ties so I can kind of feel him coming in. And as he comes to my double end, I'm going to redirect it to this position, okay? I'm going to redirect it around the corner. Now, this is the mechanics of my body. We're all going to get up and do it on our own here in a second, but it's just back up. I'm going to be in my stance. I'm going to take a side step and I'm going to swing my heels behind me and go to my outside hip and my outside shoulder. Kind of like a little break dance moves here, okay? So I'm going to be in my stance. I'm a right leg lead. He's attacking. I'm going to side step. This hand's going to be pulling the shoulder. I'm whipping my heels. Behind me and I'm getting to my outside hip, outside shoulder. So when he does shoot this double leg and it's coming in slow, get to my leg pass, okay? Jesse Delgado is probably the quickest I've ever seen getting to this position, okay? He just had real good instincts. Pat, a couple of people asked me, hey, what percentage should I scramble and what percentage should baseline defense? 100% of the time baseline defense. Hope you never have to scramble in your career. You just smash everybody with a good baseline and you never have to scramble. That's usually not the case. But getting here, I'm in great shape, okay? I get to the leg, I pass the floats, right to my position of finish. And if I get here and he doesn't have anything, turn down. Turn down, attack the legs, get your finish.  He gets a little bit faster. He gets this leg a little faster, okay? And I'm just building up my tendencies to get to my leg pass finish, all right? And you'll kind of start feeling your threshold of what you're comfortable with, taking that energy in, and I'm redirecting it around the corner. Questions? So this is crucial. But once we learn this one leg pass, we can leg pass from any position, okay? There's thousands of leg pass positions we'll get to. Good? Okay, go!