We've got the Kenya Cup going on, the Kenya Primarily going on, but now we take our focus to football here in the local circuit here in the country. Steve, are you joining us? No, man. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Only the pressure. The last time I was with you was during Mashemeji Dabi and you were rejoicing Gurmaia's victory against FC Leipzig. Not necessarily rejoicing. I was very neutral.  I was very neutral. Was it at halftime? They were leading two nails. But that was expected, of course considering the awful show of FC Leipzig's 12-time KPL champions, it was expected. Despite the fact that during most dabbies anything can happen, but Gurmaia owing to their record against their rivals, it was anticipated. It was not upset on that day. I think everyone expected Gurmaia here to win, probably even FC Leipzig themselves. That's why probably there wasn't so much violence after that game, but that already happened. Let's focus on what we have on the place. Big things are happening here in the country. Of course our team actually now in camp preparations for the Africa Cup of Rations are on and the big question is the coach has gone ahead to call some of the local best players, Kidi has called Buire from Sofa Parka. Four goals since he has turned Sofa Parka. He has got to have impressed the coach in the striking department. I think I was actually really impressed by the squad that Minya called. I could see there was a lot of experience in youth. The likes of Buire, the likes of Adevido from Madari United. The likes of Faruk Shikalo, still a very young player if you ask me, and a very good goalkeeper. So there was a lot of experience in that team. Kahata, Filiamon, Otenu who have been playing and helping Kenya even qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations. So generally looking at the squad I think it was well balanced. That team is exciting. Obviously the team will be training probably the coach said one team every month. This team is more of being supplemented with the experienced players who are playing in Europe and everything will be coming back. Because of the Chan Tournament. This team is majorly an assembly of local players who can play in the African Nations Cup. It looks to be a very good knitted young team that can actually do something in the Chan Tournament.  I think they've been some of the most impressive as far as the campaign in the 2019 Kenyan Premier League is concerned. And like I said, if you have youth and you have experience that only bodes well for the team. And for Minye, given that Chan is only for local base players, I think we have the quality in the team. As far as if you look at the goalkeeping, even the defence and the midfield department. I think all those positions were stopped. Obviously there is still a chance for the likes of Nikola Skipkurei. In fact, in fact... See, I know you are a reputable football right and you read so much and you follow even the sentiments by Kenyan football. Immediately that code was released by Sebastian Minye. I know it's provisional for Chan, Natuna Menment, for local best players. There was sort of criticism as far as some departments are concerned. The goalkeeping department, especially contributing players from the same club, that's Karibangli Sharks and probably one of the custodians who's not been getting regular playing time. Also earning an inclusion.  Kenneth Muguna has been exceptional for Gorma Football Club since returning back to his former club. Dennis Oliyech of course is yet to gain much fitness, but also several fans looked forward to his inclusion. The likes of Sve Nida, Karibangli Sharks and even considering what those young tracks did during the Sport Pesa Super Cup in Tanzania, Arizona, Muendoa, Duku, Abuya. So in as much as we might agree with this code but there is sort of holes that are being left and eyebrows that we can raise. But that one is actually under the discretion of the coach. We might have good players all of them also. Of course his decision is final. You know you can't call in all the players, you can only call in a few. And every time you, I'm sure even if you would have called the likes over Muguna and the likes of Kipkuri, still people would have been like ok, where is this guy, where is this guy. So that is always... You call in the Tampa, where do you call this? But I think mostly the debate has been about the inclusion or rather the exclusion of Dennis Oliyech and for me they actually agree with the coach. He needs to work, he needs to earn his spot in that team. On merit. Yeah on merit, we need to really look at merit. Obviously if you have somebody of Oliyech's reputation in Kaliber, it brings a lot into the team just besides being able to score goals, it brings that personality and experience. I have a problem with people with a generation that grew up watching Dennis Oliyech. They were that generation of we are Dennis Oliyech. People are coming up, we are David Owino, David's church. That's like my generation now. But this generation of people who went to school together with Dennis Oliyech, breaks to the Sikafa team in two or two, is making all the wonders to Africa Cup of Nations. And people are happy. These are our players, this is the best player. But they are failing to move away from that. Dennis Oliyech is not actually as good as he was today. If he is coming on to a dressing room, matters of football on the field should be a bit limited to the advice he can give, not to his body and his mind to give it on the field. You and I know that FOM is temporary classes permanent. Dennis Oliyech has been tremendous for the national team. He made his debut in 2003. And of course he inspired the national team qualifications to African Cup of Nations in two or one or two days of Jacob Gostmule. Since he has come back to local football, he has backed I think two goals. And the moment he has come on the pitch for Gorma football club, he has been hilarious in terms of his performance. But of course we all have to agree that Dennis Oliyech inclusion in the national team has to be on merit and deserving, but not really his name that we used to know in the past. But of course Sebastian Minyo probably must be giving him time before right now as we speak in between before the African Cup of Nations get done in Egypt. Probably the Frenchman would have already decided on whether he will call him. But experience is also key in as much as we might also be... I think there is still time. There is still time. There is still time for Oliyech to work his way into the school. Yeah. But as we speak right now I think it's a bit... Let me not lie to you. As I'm speaking now, I've got many people who will be saying, what is that guy saying? That guy does not want Oliyech in the national team. And everybody will be saying Oliyech will earn that because of merit. And I can tell you for free, no matter how Dennis Oliyech works from now to June or into the selection of the team going to camp, they are better placed players who will work extra hard to earn that chance to be in the national team. Definitely I have to agree with you that player selection is not supposed to be compromised, is not supposed to be interfered with with the juniors of football in the country, but the coach should be left to do his work independently. You realize this conversation is not even with Dennis Oliyech. It's not even with the national team. It is with the fans, with people, many journalists out here actually saying, Dennis Oliyech needs to be in the national team. It is not about Dennis Oliyech saying, I'm good enough to be in the national team. But of course that's a conversation that you probably will win. This is never ending. Entering our subsequent programs we can proceed, but overall I think we agree with the quote that was named by Frenchman Sebastian Minyafochan. And of course that is blend of youth and experience as Steve said and when professional players led by the captain Victor Wanyama joined the camp I think that blend would be something that is needed. One question that came out was we are in the tropics, we are sending our team to train in a camp in France or it has not been decided yet and we will be playing in Egypt which is a bit of an arid country. How will that impact the players? I think the trip is just for the sake of feel good factor. Some of these players are really hung, their passports are not all that stamped. I get that trip going to France. It's motivation. It will motivate me. I'll work extra hard so that when that trip comes where we need to go to Egypt then I'll be in the reckoning. So for me I think also it's quite some time before we go to Egypt and the weather here in Kenya is not so different. It's not as hot as it is in Egypt. So it's just a training camp. They'll probably go there for a week. If they get the fans it's not a grand deal and come back and put it in the locker. So what I think and everything that is going to happen is let's not put pressure on the team that you need to go to the Africa Cup of Nations and perform. You have been out in the cold for 15 years. Just make Africa Cup of Nations, make another Africa Cup of Nations in that from now on let it be known that Arambesta is a main state in the Africa Cup of Nations. We are not going to move away from the Africa Cup of Nations. To make it to four tournaments in the Africa Cup of Nations now will be saying we need that semifinal sport. And I think there is every chance that Arambesta can become regular. Also aided by the fact that Kaaf decided to increase the number of teams that participate in that competition. Obviously it doesn't bode in well for us when we say we can only participate because the number of teams have been increased. That means you are not competitive enough. But it's already there. Even the World Cup is going to be extended to 48 teams. That is massive. I agree with you. We should look at Africa Cup of Nations. We should be a main state in that competition like the likes of Nigeria, the likes of Ivory Coast. The moment we become an African powerhouse the now getting to the World Cup becomes ever so easy because we are used to competing and actually winning a competition. Because remember the last time we were in Africa in 2004. We lost 3-1 to Mali, we lost 3-0 to Senegal. We beat Bokina Faza 3-0 during the last group time. Emmanuel Ake and Baraza scoring. That is the only game we have won in the AFKON. In the 5 times we have been to the AFKON. That's the only game. So it tells you, AFKON is not ours. We are not ready. But just a contrary opinion. Kenya, as far as footballing is concerned is not Madagascar that are qualifying for the first time and probably that would be a platform for them to get exposed and noticed as they look forward qualifying going forward. Kenya is a football heavyweight. I know in terms of profile, in terms of pedigree we might not be compared to the likes of Intometable Lions of Cameroon Ivory Coast Super Eagles of Nigeria. But Kenya has also bragged of positive headlines football wise considering we've also contributed to our immense talent playing in professional football and we are non globally. So in as much as we might not go there to wheel but we have to give our all and deliver because considering that this will be a proper build up to 2022 World Cup I remember interving when I was campaigning and he said that his key target will be to help the national team qualify to 2022 World Cup in Qatar and before we qualify we need also to sparkle at continental stage. Still can bear it with me and I can say it here without fear of contradiction. Kenya is not a big team in football. Kenya is not a big country in football we need to take that to the bank and let no one lie to people that Kenya is a big country. I think they had a stick to it. How good a team is. There is a short cut that we have and majorly I am one of them we journalists are culprits we put pressure on people we put stories outside there pushing Kenya to be a team that is good in football. When you know to the fiber of our human bonds we are not a good country in football all the way from the grass road level to the national level it's just that we have got this short cut we have got a league it has to be played That's where my point was coming from if you look at our local league in itself the teams that frequent continental football even European championships and even the World Cup you have to look at their leagues very strong that is where we need to start working on and Kaaf released the progress of teams as far as continental league football is concerned in Gormahia at number 26 right now in Africa they moved from number 43 the last time those ratings were released so I think we are making which means Kenyan football is getting progressive we are getting there but now we need another Gormahia we need another Gormahia in there a team that can go out there and be do what be a mainstay in Kaaf Champions League in Confederation we saw Karibangi Shakts went they didn't do so well they just went via the preliminary round we have seen the same with Sofapaka we have seen the same with the FC Lopad we have seen the same with Ulinsi so we really need to work on our league right now because even if you look at the Kenyan Premier League right now Bandari look like they are getting there this is a team that has never really even won the Kenyan Premier League I think the best they have done maybe was last season finishing third you look at FC Lopad they fell off now if you want to find the FC Lopad you have to go really down Sofapaka are very inconsistent Bandari are very inconsistent so the moment Gormahia actually start playing so well then the league is pretty much guaranteed so the most important thing is putting in place proper systems just in machinana to understand there is plenty of potential and you have to have continuity program so that when Deniz Olihich is exiting the stage we will not struggle we will not struggle to get the way we are talking about and I am sorry we are taking this conversation too far we are talking about now the national team and everything one thing that the federation has done and is good is the centre of excellence the only problem is it's a one area it's a one school structure centre of excellence if that centre of excellence with the curriculum that they have be replicated in the whole country then we start seeing those results from the whole country those kids in primary school the way they are getting on to secondary school level they are progress from secondary school level to college level from there to professional playing then we will be starting having many many players coming up young players who are good enough to play in our national league system I think as far as youth structures are concerned I think what the federation have done they have let corporate run this the youth systems we used to have the kapa koka kola tournament we barely hear about it these days we have the safari koma kapa dima kapa dima so they have left it to corporate so my only question is how much say does the federation have it on that case of this sanctioning the league these students having that opportunity to play in that tournament then go out of Kenya go for the continental game then maybe 2 or 3 are picked then we never hear of that I think it is prudent you have brought in the question of corporate involvement in supporting sporting activities in the country some we have heard saying that it is pure exercise it is their own mileage publicity and marketing I remember you were in charge of some corporate in 2014 prior to FIFA 2014 it was a good program it was a good program because if I can actually just mention to you a couple of players who graduated from that tournament we have Eugene Mukangula FC Leopards right now we have Christopher Ruchum also FC Leopards we have Muhalwe the goalkeeper at Wazito FC at Mount Kenya I can count actually a whole first 11 who graduated from that tournament and that was under 17 these are teams that you can actually find most of these players are playing in the top flight or in the national super league which makes me ask myself what if somebody would have taken up that whole team the way they left South Africa for that continental football and came back to Kenya and still remain together that team would have been now the mainstream of the under 23 team right now because they are quite young lads and that team would have been having that ability to actually beat even qualify for the under 23 Africa Cup of Nations but that is what I was saying about corporate involvement the moment they go out they come back even when just goes there it's over, it's done for you it's finished right there and we go on and talk about Golmaya preparing for their continental assignment at Kenya Hussein Day and Golmaya came back and left the group open and today they are going to play when they are going to play Hussein Day it is now a win-win situation for Golmaya how tough is it for Golmaya now in this group? It's quite tough for them Hussein Day are the ones who are leading that group with 4 points meaning that they went to Zamalek in Egypt it's not so easy going to North African getting points they went there and forced Zamalek to a 1-1 draw because Golmaya got 4-2 Zamalek is one of those big teams they even won the champions league the calf champions league and also they beat Petra Atletico 2-1 and Golmaya lost to Petra Atletico 2-1 in Luanda they are facing a team who they might have been just in the reckoning as far as who is going to top this group is concerned because you don't have to look past Zamalek as much as they are struggling right now and they are coming out as the team to beat so far in Golmaya have to be quite careful where a big one for Golmaya there but prior to this particular time you've seen mind games from Hussein Day they have refused to train at the poster ground saying that the facility is substandard and we've seen such lamentations before complaints from African teams asan te kotoko when they were about to play Karubangshaks in calf confederations calf confederations they complained about the treatment and they said that the facilities are or is it psychological tricks to try to destabilize the openings it is not psychological you look at the training ground for Hussein Day back in Algeria then compared to the poster grounds how you are taking them right now but you can compare the facilities in North Africa with what we have here that's the whole point that's the reason as to why they have to agree with what they are being given because we don't have what they have in there it is I don't deny that you have to make do with what you have but sports is moving into a way you look at the English Premier League where they say you cannot have a team come on to the English Premier League if it does not have a natural grass playing field so we might be getting into a situation where with the calf rules and everything that is coming in place we have got calf saying good man can qualify for the calf champions league but if you don't have the best field for these other teams to come you are off the competition so competition alone is not enough I think playing facility and training facility are two different things if you are talking about playing facility I think we can host any team matimachakos ground you can host any team in Bukungu you can host any team even in Kericho Ninyayo is also getting ready so as far as I think the playing facility is concerned and that should be calf's main born of contention I think we have that as far as training is concerned now I'm sure I even go was it last season when they went to Nigeria and they also complained of mistreatment so it seems like it's just something that is in ads in Africa you come here it's all psychological mind games you come here we sort of just try to find that age and it happens you remember Liverpool when they were playing was it West Africa in the in the Premier League recently that game that ended one-one at half time the groundsmen decided to clear the ice on the side that Liverpool were attacking and left the ice on the side that West Africa were attacking just to make the game ever so difficult so these things happen in football and if Usendia refused to train that's the unfold they love to play they love to play against Gorma here today trained at KSMS but Gorma heading into this particular time with allegations of unpaid use and salaries to several players and confirmed reports indicate that Denis Olih might not feature in that particular time because of violation of his contractual agreement with his team and also suspensions I don't know that would make the team's performance of course they need victory to go to the top of the tempo and they are getting separated two of them with one point so it's a big game with this old age issue and payment I will tell you a quote between two words the first word is that yes it needs to be paid you know is due contract you work your money then the other thing tells me this somebody who has not been on the pitch for quite some time it should be so hungry you know do you want to pay this much I am not sure I don't think he's not been paid 100% I think it's just part of the dues because from what I've read he went to his bank and found there was only like 100,000 in the account I don't know how much is paid every month obviously it's a lot of money can't that sustain him at least for the next few few days I'm sure it's something that the executive are working on I don't think they are just sleeping there and saying we have this money they are holding it back, they want to pay him so for me as far as he is concerned and if you want to continue saying that old age should be called for chan and all that and being such an experienced player being such a player with the big head in terms of being experienced so much I think for him right now should just be hungry, I just want to play I just want to gain that fitness I want to dislocate to you saying as the number one striker in Gorma here because if you look at the club right now it's behind probably the Nikola skip career on the peking order for me I think it's just that hunger but obviously now also the human heart says man you can't play in an empty stomach definitely but if you join Kaiser Chiefs of South Africa that is left but Godfrey prior to their continental thai again I think super sport united there was controversy surrounding lack of payment of salaries and they had used underlanders as well and that even led into his failure to board that plane to head to South Africa for that particular thai I don't know what's the long term solution that should be put in place so that these issues going forward can be addressed because prior to a sensitive game then these problems are arising I think besides just obviously addressing the back room issues as far as management is concerned there's also the issue of making our clubs attractive to corporate involvement we need more spot passers to come into the game club like Gorma here you need to be having a sponsor probably even in the English Premier League all clubs have a slave sponsor I think Gorma here I remember I think they came in Machakos last year it was Gorma against Esperance and the conversation was look at how many sponsors Esperance had on their whole team they had two sponsors on the front they had a different sponsor on the back side they had a slave sponsor and they had a short sponsor realize that and it was a big deal for them but the sponsors wanted coverage and they came out to be streamed for them because that's what they do but corporate and financial discipline in all the clubs is how we finish that conversation so big conversation we'll be going on with but we cannot finish now let's go on to one of the biggest matches that will be happening this afternoon will be Madara United versus FC Leopards but before we discuss the kima that will be going to happen he used to have got his groove back now he has won three times the Kenya Premier League coach of the month and this month of January he was the one who was awarded the kong he seems to be his back now yeah he was back in January right now if you look at where Madara United are they are third in the league for Madara what has happened over time they don't lose so many matches but Madara always drew they drew 15 matches 15 hours of 30 15 hours of 34 as you speak right now they've already drawn 5 matches so they need to just remove that thing out of the equation either we win or we lose there's nothing in between but for Madara it's always been draws and that's why they actually even fallen on the table have been started so well they were top of the league I think for the first maybe 10 rounds I've been called to the national team for me I don't think there's a midfielder who's been so good as far as his job is concerned like Roy in that midfielder I've watched him and it's just been a joy to watch this season so for Madara United I think they just need to find a way of winning obviously they want to lose obviously a point is better than none but it's just the draws because I'm talking about 15 last season I'm talking about 15 previous seasons but for Kimansi winning the gong in January I think he deserved it obviously he beat the likes of Mualala to the gong Bandari and Okte of Gorma here so he deserved it but as far as the league table is concerned I think it's just a case of saying let's listen into Kimansi himself talk about winning the log and then we'll go on with this conversation we have a motivation because we have up to now a good run and a good record so I think if we can improve it in the round 10 and 11 rounds I think it will be better every team wants to work for a better environment and if we have an environment that we feel that we are happy we are safe as a group and we are enjoying what we are doing what is important for me is that at least every player one of every offensive player is able to show that he can manage to score the distribution among the 18 goals that we have scored shows there's no dominance in one player that means they are more the mobility is good and I think they are sharp as the offensive players of my team so it's good when you don't only rely on one but you have a collective responsibility I think every single player that I've got here is very impressive because Juma is also a youngster who spent two years already understudying Jojo Wino and now he has come out and is doing something very very positive and he shows that he has been learning something and he is ready to take the challenge but we know David the same so the youngsters who are always I believe it's a journey it's a story of a small journey with the youngsters who are trying to establish themselves and they are doing it and they are doing it in style after winning the Kenya Premier League coach of the month he had four draws no sorry for that four wins and two draws and one match that will be happening there today will be Bandari versus Zoya Sugar at Mbaraki Stadium these are direct win for Mualala because now he is welcoming majority back into the deep end back into the deep waters of Kenyan football how do you think that match will go Zoya last season after obviously Mualala left Zoya for Bandari they went to Bandari and they were beaten I don't see that changing today they found a winning formula I think everything is working that defense is really really strong with the goalkeeper Shikalo he doesn't like considering and Feli Mulumi in there and Meja also as a full back I think that's one player that should have a look at Bandari they made a case in the second leg of last season I think they covered it in seven points to capture Goldmay and finish second considering only one or two golds and people were like this Feli Mulumi is really worth Bandari needed and they made that case and this season they added Bandari to that defense so it tells you they have got a tough team to beat I think how they finished last season was really strong and guys were like probably this is a look end of season momentum something they picked up they brought it into this season and they are not leading that table by chance I think they are the team as far as they are concerned they are quite consistent they are not like the Bandaris I mean the Bandaris in the Kario Bangi Sharks those are some of the two most inconsistent teams and by the way talking about Mother United they need to replicate what they did a few years ago in 2008 when they won Kenya Premorship title Mother United as far as local football is concerned can be compared to the likes of Southampton, Monaco I think Kenyan version of those teams because we have seen them we have seen the team getting raided in terms of when the teams that brago financial muscles want great players going to Mother United going to Zoya Football Club to get the top talent outside there but of course Francis Kimansi the former Rambia Star strategician and the likes of Cliff Nyakea also who I think also deserve probably being in the national team Rambia Star has been quite tremendous despite the loss of that experience defender was associated with much fixing there has been a gap in the defense but Mother United can probably I think one thing I like with Francis Kimansi is he doesn't go for quick fixes he tries to mold that team remember the team that made it to the 2004 Africa Cup of Nations had 7 Mother United players and those 7 were the key players to help Mother win the 2008 Kenyan Premier League title and you realize since the last 3 seasons the other season Mother was on their way down come up last season Mother worked their way up and with Francis Kimansi coming on to add some experience players even James Situma on the fold he works on with the youth and the plant to bring them up and let's not deny it other teams with money obviously will be coming for this kind of players look at Harrison Mwendo Mwendo broke out in Mathare we saw him breaking out with Mathare and Karubanki came Mboya the goalkeeper the moment he broke out and is very good enough Tasker is here we need you so he doesn't like the quick fixes to make the team there and we are finishing I've been told to wind up as we are going on to the next segment but I could not live here without talking about FC Leopards quickly I'll talk about FC Leopards I'll just say one word sad, it's quite sad what's happening at that club because you look at the team itself in terms of the players they have those kids can beat any team in the country and beyond I just don't know what's happening obviously we blame the management if you've seen over time whenever the office or the back room office is not stable then results are always affected you've seen it with the likes of Leeds United we are seeing it currently with Newcastle Liverpool are almost in trouble when the likes of Hicks and Gillet were in charge of that club so I think that in itself is really affecting the club but also I don't know what's happening with the players they don't seem motivated because if you look at these players most of them have actually moved into the club in moving into FC Leopards a club that has a sponsor means that probably your salary packs are going to be up there so why not putting in the effort on the pitch I don't know what's happening I was talking to one of the defenders for FC Leopards Dan Chitu and he says that amongst the experienced players the most influential players of course himself included alongside Waivon, Susan Captain Robinson Kamura who the other day I think a few weeks ago was quoted out of context I don't know or that's what he said because the fans of FC Leopards are referring to his comments as reckless when he said that they don't have any standout strike because they are struggling in the attacking department something that I'm in agreement but they need to do a favor to their legends look at the players who played for the team before the likes of JJ Masiga, Dan Shikanda now the legends are out now they are making a case that this office has to go and one of the major case that is coming out is the office every board in that office is an agent of course as you speak right now there came on board a rescue a rescue committee led by Murisa Mwa Mombasa in business man and of course Dan Shikanda deputizing him and they said that one of their key mandate key priorities to rescue the team and restore it's lost glory because they are citing reasons that are speaking but that is what everyone who comes that's a tad like I think we are coming to rescue the team they all say that Stibu and I would agree that I think during the hey days of one former Nairobi county speaker Miguel the team tried well we need to have a mix of Osoro no problem executive committee let's hope that everything can change at the FC Lopez then and we can have them back to where they belong in the Kenya Premier League big matches at the Kenya Premier League this afternoon will be post arrangers versus or Lindsey Stas will be having bandari versus that's a game to watch homeboys will be playing sofa paka madare united will be playing FC Lopez to finish up this match day today on saturday I didn't know you are a big basketball fan when we were playing the NBA All-Star game was when we talked and I was like kumbe basketball is also your game man I am a sports guy I am not a football guy I watched the NBA All-Stars game and it was awesome man I loved it and the three pointers they were missing one in ten every time stef carrey goes up every time even Dick Novitski he came in and he was moving like I don't know he has a ninja or something it was awesome competition from the NBA All-Star game when he come back will be all about the fan zone


The challenge of the Yukon King the swiftest strongest of Eskimo lead dogs Blazes the trail through storm and snow for Sergeant Preston as he meets the challenge of the Yukon Sergeant Preston was typical of the small band of Northwest mounted police who preserved law and order in the Yukon During the Gold Rush of 98 That was the year that brought over 50,000 men swarming into the Klondike region and the greed for gold led to frequent violence and bloodshed But in spite of the odds against them the force preserved a splendid record in preserving the right the challenge of the north was answered and justice rule triumphant The palace cafe and Dolphin was always crowded Men who weren't standing at the bar or sitting around tables talking were in the back rooms Concentrating on poker games But in Max Watkins office.  You're wrong Joe How about it? Sure? He's wrong. I tell your boss that game was straight. You see Joe Pete here says the game was straight.  They can't prove a thing and you know it We're playing with Pete Sam and Bart here Three men's word against one Hey, hey, you won't have a chance. Oh, we'll see what kind of a chance. I'll have No, you don't you're not going anywhere Hey, boss Should have looked for it sooner than Better make sure he won't live to talk boss. He won't talk. He's passed that now Hurry Pete put your gun in his hand. But don't stand there.  Do as I tell you. Yeah Any questions are asked. I'll do the talk Suddenly the room was full minors crowded the doorway stopping in their tracks as they saw Joe Merrill on the floor Clutching a gun in his hands thought I heard a shot in here.  What do you mean? Thanks? What happened? They were in a game of poker. Hey, wait a minute. Here comes sergeant Preston sergeant. Hello there, Slim Mighty glad you got here sergeant Looks like I got here too late Joe Merrill Not this happened Mike. I was just telling the boys sergeant. He says Pete did it in self-defense. That's right They were in a poker game. Who the Joe Pete Sam and Bart here Joe had been losing pretty heavily and he was in a bad humor. I guess yes They got into an argument Joe pulled a gun Is that true Pete? Yeah Yeah, that's how it happened He had a couple of drinks Never thought anything like this would happen. Is it customary for them to play poker in your office max? No, they weren't playing in here. Who was in the room besides Pete? When Joe pulled the gun Sam and Barton me it all come in here Yeah, we thought maybe max could quiet Joe down Pete started to tell me what had happened and Joe accused him of lying No, I see Lying about what he said he said that Pete owed him money Well Pete it's a good thing you've got witnesses max told you just how it was sergeant He can tell it to a minor's jury at your trial trial. Hey, what is this? You'll be tried for murder Early the next morning max Watkins was talking to Pete McCreary in his cell in the Dolphin Jail The cafe owners spoke quietly outlining his plan to sergeant Preston's prisoner But even as they spoke the frown on Pete's face deepened You're trying to frame you frame you use your head. What good would it do me to try that? I ain't taking no murder rap for anybody. You understand not for enough to take that rap Sam and Barton me will swear we saw Meryl draw first four of us the only ones that know what went on That's just it. Oh, you got a perfect story. Well, what I don't get is why you shoved the blame on me so fast listen Was I in on that poker game? No, that's why I talked so fast, huh? The Monty knew Joe found out the game was crooked you put that puzzle together in two minutes No, we killed him to shut his mouth. How do you get that we killed him stuff? I don't care what the Monty knows or don't know. I don't like you don't have a thing to worry about I'll tell you something Pete. I was Planning for us to clear out of here anyway. You mean leave the Yukon. Yeah, we cleaned up plenty here in Dolphin It's like Meryl said they're beginning to get wise to us Soon as this trial blows over we'll strike out for a skagway and head for the States. Yeah Well, I just then think now what's wrong a lot of them minors on the jury Yeah, what about them clean amount of plenty of poker games and they got long memories. Oh forget it. You're just nervous Long as the four of us staying together in our stories.  Yeah You remember this that jury don't set me free. You're going to be the one to worry Sergeant Preston was walking slowly along Dolphin's main street when he heard someone calling him Turning he saw whitey burns hurrying toward him. Hello there whitey. Hey, where have you been keeping yourself? Hey, I just heard about Joe. Yes, I ain't got to the cafe shortly after it happened. I wish I'd have been there I didn't lock that no good skunk out so cold. He did. Oh Well, ain't much good talker now. It's too late. Who Pete? Joe sure wasn't fussy about his company when he picked them three for his game Well, I thought he always played with him. Oh, he used to That was before we all get wise. Oh, wait a minute whitey. I Just got into Dolphin yesterday. It's quite sometimes as I've talked to any of you boys What's this all about? You ain't heard about the palace thing. What about it? I thought you fellas all gathered there and got together for pogans and drinks. It's the only cafe in town. That's why You know Watkins didn't always own it. Yes, I know he bought out Mac McDonald 10 months ago And Mac went in for a store keeping What's that got to do with the palace and Max Watkins? I was getting to that Used to be a man could go there for a poker game. I know he'd stand as much a chance of winning as he did of losing That was before max and those three fellas working for him took over so salmon barred work for him to Took a while for us to see just how it worked out, but it all ended up Every time any of us got together for a game one of those was always in on it You can take it from me. Not one of the four of them turns an honest card. I see how the money we lost I Don't blame Joe for drawing on Pete only thing that surprises me is that he was so slow pulling the trigger What'd you say? Oh nothing nothing Just thinking they all on a hang You've got Pete. Yes, he's in jail now trials tomorrow trial a lot of good at trial will do Why do I have a hunch? Sometimes it pays to play them and and sometimes it doesn't But this whole thing is too perfect What do you mean sergeant? Well, I have an idea It might not work, but it's worth a try listen How many people know where you were last night? No one had it except Mac. I was talking to him this morning. Why good. Where were you out of the cabin? I don't see what you will Would you be willing to take a chance to prove Joe might have been murdered? You don't know I told you this is just a hunch Sure But I don't know how you can prove it. I'll tell you how First I want to warn you that you may be risking your life Listen sergeant Joe is my friend. I'll do whatever you say King and I'll stay as close to you as possible There'll still be danger. What's your plan? First? I want you to talk to Mac Tell him what you're going to do and he'll help me split the story Yeah, that's right I heard maybe Pete don't stand the chance. He thinks he does hey The man has got something up his sleeve wait let comes out at the trial. We might see a hanging yet Listen boss there might not be anything to it shut up might not be anything to it Your full of course there's something to it Everybody in town to be talking about it if there wasn't yeah, but I don't see how that's a trouble with every one of you Never see anything all right Suppose whitey didn't see a shoot him. It's a three of us again him ain't it that ought to be good enough for any call That's like Pete said He's pleased every minor on a jury Why he's been here a long time Every one of them would like to see us hang and all they need to do is hear his story I never looked at it. Hey, you never look beyond your own nose Why do you was coming in the back way? Could have seen the whole thing And I guess it's too late to do anything about it now too late to do anything about it I'll hang for this if he talks you hear me That's you were Peter Bart but me Not going it. I killed Merrill and I'll kill him if I have to where's he staying over in the back room at McDonald's store As far as I know why we're going over there tonight That night whitey burns that's playing a game of solitaire in the back of McDonald's store Mac as was his custom was at the cafe Through the window max Watkins and Sam could see whitey hesitate a card for his mid-air That's the way you wanted it have us Sure, we don't have any audience this time Was that dog I don't know just a stray I guess shut up your mutt Come on, Sam Try this door here It's not open we'll have to know it's open No, it isn't Mac whitey Max Watkins What are you doing here? Just came for quiet talk. That's all Down same. Yeah What do you want to talk to me about? No use wasting time. I'll come right to the point How much is it worth you not to be at that trial tomorrow?  How much do you want? I don't need your money max? I've got plenty of dust in my claim So if you came here to buy me off you can forget it. I mean business whitey One way or the other I'm making sure you won't be indulged in tomorrow You can take your choice. You think if I'm not there to say Joe was murdered Pete will be set free, huh? That's right I'm admitting right now. I made a mistake Shooting Joe without thinking of the window But I won't make the same mistake twice meaning meaning if you won't be Sensible and see things the way I'm suggesting Sam here will go outside Just to make sure no one sees you getting the same thing Joe got when he was ready to talk out of terror You've been getting away with a lot ever since you set foot in golf and max You've cheated every man that held a card in the cafe. That's how I make my money. Yeah Well, your money's no good here so you can get out now All right, Sam One outside make sure everything's clear. I Got a gun in this pocket. Why do you cover it? Don't worry boss? I'll make sure this time and we are Sam You weren't going anywhere.  You're covered turn around max. You aren't hearing things Preston's behind you. All right Well, he looks like you don't believe it sergeant. I don't know. We were here. How'd you get in? I was here when you walked in I've been waiting for you as a matter of fact When King barked I knew you were walking into our trap. I got a hand it to you sergeant I never thought they'd believe it trap believe what believe whitey story that he saw you kill Joe Merrill When you heard the rumor your conscience took care of the rest double crush. Yes, you might call it that If you thought about it max you could have easily looked for tracks at the window Whitey had seen you his footprints would still be in the snow But your guilt confused you Way better open the door whitey King wants to know if we need any more help I guess Boy, I never saw a dog like him Oh, you know they were coming in here. Why was barking before they even got to the door? Yes, King the case is closed Challenge of the Yukon the copyrighted feature of the challenge of the Yukon Incorporated brought to you every Saturday at this time originated in the transcription studios of WXYZ Detroit The characters and events in tonight's drama were fictitious. Bill Morgan speaking. This is the Michigan radio network


e use package store licenses or alcohol licenses, you get the authority to make the request first and then you submit it to the voters for ratification. The only processes that I could find that are more direct or something that's specifically highlighted in the statute like the conversion of an office or something like that. Yeah, all right. And I certainly understand, we've had great presentations and I've had great conversations with opponents of and people that were not in favor of rank choice voting in the interim since our last meeting. And I definitely think it's something that can be helpful in our current election system, write information on to people. I think I would lean towards just for reading stated by Mr. Don lean towards the majoritarian view over the proportional at this time. But I certainly want to hear what public commentary comes up with as well. So with that, I will turn to the public comments and the first one is from Jennifer Seuss. Sorry for all the delays. Hi, so thank you for considering this proposal and your sort of very thoughtful commentary. I've had some conversations with some people. I want to urge you not to make a choice to propose rank choice voting only for single seat elections. I think that's gets very complicated, especially on for the slack board where there is a year with a single seat election and two years with a multi seat election. Some of the worries that you've heard about the multi seat elections for rank choice voting are specific to the proportional representation. I understand why the committee at this point feels that that might be too complicated to explain, to open to worries. It certainly does potentially change the relationship between the board and the community. I understand why people don't want to but then I would say if you do decide to put forward majoritarian rank choice voting, some of the worries that you've heard so far just really aren't there. I mean, you don't really have any worry about grants. You don't have, the publicist doesn't have to worry about this complex counting process. There's just a lot that goes away. And so to remind you of the good things that rank choice voting. So rank choice voting encourages participation. So more people run without worrying about spoiling another candidate. And so when you talk about whether this will promote a more friendly campaign or a more contentious campaign, the reason it might be more friendly is just for that reason because you aren't worried that by running, that you're there threatening somebody else's possibilities who you might like very much. And so that's why they're sort of this friendly competitive thing. It does increase, because it increases the potential, there'll be more people running for office. There'll be more people interested in the election, interested in what these boards do and the other processes, and more likely to come out and vote. You just get sort of more people involved in the electoral process. So when we were looking for things that we could do in town. So I didn't introduce myself, did I? Jennifer Seuss, Teal Street, I'm also a member of the Millet FD Monetization Committee. When we were looking for things in town, things that we could do to improve the electoral process, getting more people involved, getting more excitement about these elections was a really important part of that. The other thing it will do that's really crucial is it reduces gainsmanship. So right now, as everybody knows, some people know that there's this bullet possibility, some people don't know about the bullet possibility, some people use it, some people don't. In general, there's sort of this gainsmanship that goes on now, that you just don't have to do with range choice voting and that's, I think, a really nice thing. The other thing is that it increases, it sort of better reflects the will of the voters. And I know there's a debate about the two kinds of range choice voting for multi-selections and the committee does strongly feel that proportional better reflects the will of the voters, but I would argue that they both reflect the will of the voters better because people can sort of express their preferences I really like this person and I like this person second and maybe I don't like this person. It's a much better relationship the voter has to the voting process. So I'd encourage you to put this before a town meeting. There's going to be lots and lots of opportunity to explain it to town meeting members, lots of opportunities to explain to the voters before it comes through our vote. This is not the end of the sort of education conversation. It's just really the very beginning. And so I urge you to take that step forward. Thank you. Sean, from ACMI, can you hear me? I'm gonna few texts that the cable is out on the broadcast. No? Okay. All right, we'll move on. All right, Mr. Schlickman. Thank you very much. You know, when we started with the liquor licenses we started with beer and wine only in restaurants and we went from moist until about 10 years later we now have full alcohol services, package stores full expanded our all alcohol licenses. So we took it step by step. If this board votes to advance rank choice voting for only single seat elections I think that's a reasonable starting point to put it before the voters and do it that way and see where we go. Rank choice voting on a multi-seat election does not do what the proponent state based on how it would in theory work for single seat elections. Do you know if anybody in town who said, gee, I would really like to run for office but I don't wanna do it in this way but I will run for office under rank choice voting. I've not met that person. I have not met that person. And as a person who was elected under a three-person race I wanna be very clear. Bill Hainer and I are very good friends. We do not share political constituencies. I tell people all the time please vote for me. I like Bill, give him one of your three votes as well. And he does the same. The current system for multi-seat elections promotes far more cooperation and collaboration than a rank choice scheme where I have to say, Bill's a nice guy but I need your number one vote. Alice Wolf once said, if I get everybody's number two vote in the election I lose because rank choice starts with the number one votes. Gaming the system, rank choice doesn't solve that. It just changes the game on a multi-seat election. And so that you have to adjust your campaign strategy to a new set of rules. And I think the new set of rules for a multi-seat election is less friendly, less cooperative, more adversarial. If there is rank choice voting in the proposal I will go to town meeting with an amendment to remove it for multi-choice and I will work to defeat the article. If we advance a rank choice voting for only single seat races I think that it's reasonable to put it before the voters and see if they like it or not. So the compromise position is not between which kind of multi-seat rank choice you wanna do. The compromise is put forward the most basic rank choice for the single seat elections and see where that goes. And I don't agree with the argument that it's more complicated than having rank choice for everything because the multi-seat rank choice is a very complicated process. To do it for single seat elections when the select board has only one member up it's just one seat on the ballot, rank choice rules apply when there are two seats up rank choice rules don't apply, pretty easy. So I urge you do not go past a single seat rank choice proposal going to town meeting this year because that my friends is the compromise. Thank you. Mr. Oster. Hi, thanks everybody. Adam Oster, I live at 10 Cottage Avenue in East Arlington and really I just wanted to express my great appreciation for the work of this committee. They've been energetic, they've been thoughtful. I haven't agreed with them about everything but it's really been a pleasure to interact with them. I hope the board will do what they think is right and let town meeting sort it out. Those are my comments, thank you. Yep. Now close the public commentary section of this meeting. So we do have a motion to approve that's been seconded. So I will go back to the board for any additional comments or questions for the proponents. Mr. Corsi. I don't have any further questions. All right, Mr. Dunn. I guess one comment is that I don't agree with entirely with Mr. Schlickman's characterization either. I think that one, so for instance, the relationship he said about voting for the person who only gets the second votes can't win that was true under the proportional version but that's not the majoritarian version that I'm putting forward does not have that flaw or at least that character. It just doesn't have that characteristic. And so I understand that Mr. Schlickman thinks that the compromise is to do only single seats but I would say that the compromise to majoritarian. And I understand that Mr. Corsi isn't comfortable with that. And so, and I guess I'm kind of, I looked at the will of my colleagues on which direction to go for majority and I'll be happy to support however that comes out. All right, Mr. Diggins. I'm very much in favor of doing right choice for multi-seat and I'm fine with going with the majoritarian since that seems to be the way that you're, seems to what makes you comfortable, Mr. Dunn. And so because I'd like to see it in the multi-seat I'm gonna support that. Thank you. This is my, I guess I would ask Mr. Dunn and Mr. Corsi, is what I'm hearing from the vote majoritarian or multi-seat? I think if I would, Mr. Corsi, I'll take a stab and you can see if I get it right. So last time we heard about this, we heard about proportional for multi-seat. And tonight we're hearing about it or we heard, we've gotten writing at least the majoritarian for multi-seat and I'm supporting the majoritarian for multi-seat and Mr. Diggins is suggesting don't make a change for multi-seat voting. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. I mean, look at it in a rank choice type analogy. My first choice is to do it for single seat. My second choice would be to do majoritarian and my third choice would be proportional. And I wanna have a voice. So I wanna tell you what I think about it. I think we should go forward on single seat. I think maybe down the road, maybe it will be appropriate to extend it to multi-seat. I'm not ready to do it now. I think it needs a little bit more outreach and work, but here's your example, there's my three preferences. Okay, thank you for that clarification. And I agree with Mr. Diggins on single seat. So that will be my vote, which I think means I may not be voting for Mr. Dunn's motion. Okay. All right. Mr. Diggins, can you just explain, because I know it has been said in the conversation with Mrs. Diggins and she explained it to me, but sometimes it just doesn't go through my head. So why is it that the proportional that takes away the problem with having two votes in a multi-seat election? Sorry, why is it the majoritarian takes away the problem? Yeah, it's a good question. So in a multi-seat election, in a proportional system, you get one vote. So your vote could count for you sort of spend your vote on a candidate and that candidate needs sort of 80% of your vote to get elected. Then you get 80% of your vote going to that candidate and 20% to the next candidate or so on. In a majoritarian, you get, it retains the reality or feature or bug, however you wanna see it that we have today where you effectively get as many votes as there are seats. So it would not be changing that aspect. The way it's counted is you counted as if it's a single seat election, that person gets the first seat. And then for the next seat, you again counted as if it's a single seat election, only you exclude whoever won the first seat and so on. You just continue the same process, applying the same process used to elect a single seat election repetitively in excluding the prior winners so that because somebody can't win two seats. So that's how it works. And like Mr. Dunn said, the criticism that, Alice Wolfe's complained about this or that or so this or that would not apply to the majoritarian proposal. And I think it really defangs the objections that you've heard to rank choice for multi-seat elections. All right, so I turn it on. We have a motion to approve that has been seconded. Mr. Hurd, I think we're correct me if I'm wrong, but we've got two people who think that we should do rank choice and two people who we think should do single seat.  So the beauty of chair, right? Is, I mean, I think where I am is, you know, I just, I don't, there's gonna be a robust discussion in town meeting and that discussion will, regardless of how we vote is gonna take place on both sides of this issue. So I think at this point, I would be inclined to support your motion and pass it along to town meeting to at least, you know, put non necessitate the need for one of the substitute motions. Thank you for clarifying. Yep. Attorney Hyam? Just so I make sure I understand the motion is for single and multi under the majoritarian form of multi-seat selection. Correct? Okay. On a motion by, I believe Mr. Dunn, seconded by Mr. Diggins, Mrs. Mahan. Yeah. Mr. D'Corsi. No. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Hurd. Yes. The vote is four to one. The motion carries. Thank you. We'll clear out a few nights of town meeting for this one. All right. That takes us to article 26. Thank you. Corsi from CBG application. Is that Mr. Helmias? Good evening. Thank you for your time tonight. I'm Mallory Sullivan, the community development block grant administrator. And I'm here to present to you tonight the CBG sub committee's recommendation for program year 47. This year we received 23 applications across the five categories of CBG, which are affordable housing, public services, economic development, public facilities and planning and administration. The sub committee members individually reviewed and scored each of the applications based upon an evaluation rubric with seven different criteria. And then the sub committee met over the course of three meetings to convene and review and to make recommendations. The total requested amount across those 23 applications this year totaled $1,253,216. And the sub committee's recommendation for program year 47's budget is $1,200,515. I'd like to thank the members of the select board who are members of the sub committee as well as our resident members. And I would like to make a request that the select board moves this to town meeting for endorsement. Thank you. And thank you for no one bringing up the fact that I confused the CBG committee with the CPAC committee. All right, we'll go to the board. Mr. Dacorsi. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. And I just, while we start, we're gonna take a vote on the CBG. I would like to vote on the various categories, but I wanna point out on the first category, rehabilitation and housing, I am going to recuse myself and I'm gonna request if we can do separate votes for each of the categories if that's possible. The reason for that is one of the recommended entities is Caritas communities. I have done some legal work for them outside of Arlington, but for that reason, I feel like I need to recuse myself from that vote. All right, and that's no problem. Mrs. Mahan. I would like to make a two pot motion to move approval on all of the CBG recommended votes with taking the affordable housing, capital improvements, Caritas communities as one vote and the remaining as a second vote. And before I get a second from that, if I could ask, first I wanna give a testimonial to Ms. Sullivan, how informative, knowledgeable, and really on top of everything that's come out of CBG, Arlington's lucky to be a CBG community, but under the Federal Cares Act, the Recovery Act, all the different acts that have come out, she and Jenny Rait has certainly been on top of that. One of the questions I'd like to ask through you, Mr. Chair, to Mrs. Sullivan, is with the anticipated approximately 30 plus million of the Recovery Act that the town of Arlington is anticipating and receiving, do you see any need for the CBG subcommittee that there might be another separate sort of Cares Act or something funding that we need to meet in July, or is the approximately 36.7 million something that the CBG subcommittee does not need to have a roll-in? Ms. Sullivan? Yes, thank you. We, so we are awaiting further guidance from HUD and from various organizations that provide legislative insight, so I'll start with that, but we would certainly want the subcommittee's input that's been a very important part of this process, for me personally, but also of course, to make sure that the projects that are receiving funding are those where there's greatest need based upon the subcommittees understanding, as well as based upon our public comment process. Okay, so I would renew my motion that it's a two-pot motion to vote the first for affordable housing, carrot is communication is one motion, the rest is a second and just ask through the town manager regarding the recovery act funds, if the CBG subcommittee led by Ms. Sullivan needs to meet again in whatever month that you all will oversee that and thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Mr. Viggins. Sorry, I liked to second that motion and also express appreciation for everything that the CDBG committee is doing, especially my colleagues on this committee. I know that it's really hard work processing and choosing amongst various grants and also not giving people all that they asked for when their causes are really great causes, so thank you and I look forward to voting for this. Thank you, Mr. Dunn. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm happy to support it, just one clarification. So is this the actual approval of the CDBG and referral to town meeting or is this just the referral to town meeting? Tony Hines. So correct me if I'm wrong. The way I remember working is we like, so the actual people who can authorize the expenditure of the fund are the select board with a sixth vote from the town manager and then, but we're the actual dispersing authorities where the ones who actually appropriate the money. And, but then we send it to town meeting as a gesture of good faith and education saying, please endorse these priorities that we've already approved. And I'm asking for clarification. Are we actually literally doing the vote tonight in which case you also need the town manager to vote in the roll call? Tony Hines. So, I'm sorry, Adam, go ahead. I'm sorry, thank you, Mr. Chair. I think we're doing both in one vote tonight. And my recollection is that's how we've done it in the past that it's both a vote approving the budget itself and a forward to town meeting. Great. Yeah, and I would just add that that's what I've drafted as your, it's a warrant article hearing, but I appreciate the precision with respect to describing what's happening. But yeah, the town manager would vote on this, but the report to town meeting only has your votes because it's the select board's report, not the manager's. Full support, thank you. Thank you. And that will turn to the public. Any members in public would like to speak on this article? Please use the raise hand function and zoom application. Seeing none, we have a motion to approve that's been seconded. Attorney Hine. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'll be conducting this vote with Mr. Chapter Lane's vote, but just to be clear, it will only be your vote that I report for the purposes of the warrant article. Attorney Hine, sorry. Just a clarification. So we're gonna vote on, we're gonna separate the two votes on this. Got it. We're gonna vote on Mr. Corsi. So the first vote will be just on the allocations for the rehabilitation and housing category of the recommendations. Mr. Corsi. Abstain on that. Yeah, that's right. Thank you. Mrs. Mohan. Yes. Mr. Corsi, sustaining Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Hurd. Yes. And Mr. Chapter Lane, your vote for the purposes of the actual disbursement. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, and then we will take a separate vote on all additional recommendations. Attorney Hine. Thank you for bifurcating the motion. Mrs. Mohan. Mrs. Mohan. Yes, thank you. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Hurd. Mr. Hurd. Yes. And Mr. Chapter Lane. Yes. Thank you. It's unanimous vote. All right. That closes our warrant article hearings. Thank you, Ms. Sullivan. All right. Articles for review. So final votes and comments on article eight, article nine, article 10, article 17, article 18, article 22, article 70 and article 91. Mr. Chair, may I briefly make a statement? Yup. Thank you so much. Members of the board, this is why we do draft final votes and comments. Member of the board contacted me earlier to correct the final vote and comment with respect to the adult, the young adult and youth advisory board. I made that change. I hope that the second iteration of it was transmitted to you, but the short version of it is the one of the two DEI positions was taken out. The second change that was made was to reflect that Mr. Diggins did not vote in the positive or did not vote for no action on article 22, which was the one about email addresses. And I added a line about noting the, some of the board members expressed interest in exploring the issue further, including whether or not alias addresses would be technically feasible. And then finally, the final vote, finally, the town clerk, your very first one, I had sort of mushed together a couple of things that had been talked about, but it's a very simple fix. The date, the controlling date, instead of being January 31st should be January 1st. So I've made that administrative correction to the final votes and comments in front of you. Thank you. And so I'll read these down. We are voting on the final votes and comments as described by attorney Heim. Any comments or revisions to article eight, article nine, article 10, article 17, article 18, article 22, article 70, article 91. Seeing none, I will take a motion from Mr. Viggins. I motion to approve. Mrs. Mohan. Second. Your official comments, Mr. Dunn. No comment, thank you. Yeah, Mr. DeCorsi. No comments. All right, and attorney Heim, we have a motion to approve that has been seconded. Thank you to all those board members for your thoughtful feedback on all these, I appreciate it. Mrs. Mohan. Yes, thank you. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Heard. Yes. To unanimous vote. All right. Of course, once received, we have traffic concerns regarding the road utility and repair work to new food link building in 108 Summer Street by Eugene Downing, five Montrose Avenue. What's reparking meter enforcement guy Morelle via the request to answer set? Senator DeCorsi. I move receipt. I don't know, I'd ask Mr. Chapter Lane, if I don't think any referrals are required on these, but I wanna check to see if he thinks we should be doing that. Otherwise, I'll just move receipt. I mean, I suppose as a formality, referring them to my office for response, it might be appropriate. Sure. Okay. I'll amend my motion to that. Thank you. Mr. Dunn. Second. No comment. All right. Mr. Diggins, any additional comments? No comment. Thank you. Mr. Mahan. No, no comments. Thank you. All right. And so attorney, I have a motion to refer. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Mr. Diggins. Sorry about that. Yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Heard. Yes. Yeah, I misspoke. And we have, I am for discussion, future select board meetings. We wanna make sure that this isn't Mr. Dunn's last meeting. So let's see where we are. So I just can open up to attorney Heim to tell us where we are on warrant articles, what's left to be heard. And then we as a board can talk about options Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we've got about eight articles left. A few of them are on the easier side in the sense that things like revolving funds don't typically have a lot of discussion, but there are a few big ticket ones, including the real estate transfer fee, an article about rock excavation, an article about pest management at sites that sort of builds off the good neighbor agreement and believe an article about restricting affordable, restricting the affordable housing appropriations to folks earning a certain amount of money. So they're not super brief and there are some of them that would be hard for me to draft up a preemptive comment. In other words, as the board may recall, there are some years where I'm able to basically draft a memo, but then contained in that memo is the sort of comment that you might provide or draft both that you might provide. I can't do that for a couple of these. So the question is whether the board wants to schedule another meeting. I will note that to my recollection, it's pretty normal for there to be a vote on the draft select board report after the election of new members following the town election. So basically we have one more round of warrant articles that need to be addressed by the select board. And the question is whether or not we can do that at your next regularly scheduled meeting or not. All right, so we do have one meeting in the interim. So I'll turn to the board for any discussion, comments as to whether or not you think we can cover it in the meetings that we have in the books already or if anything in the interim is necessary. Mr. Deans. Well, I guess if we start at our usual time, I mean, and we want to get through them all and we should be prepared, we need to do a late night. The alternatives to start a little earlier, we just do a longer meeting and hopefully it won't be as late a night. I mean, I think it'd be good if we could get through them all in on the fifth or whenever, meeting and then have our approval, a short approval meeting being on that Wednesday or Thursday, the seventh or the eighth, but I think we're going to need two meetings just as a matter of whether we need three. So let's try to have just two. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I agree we're going to need two and just the question is whether we do something before the fifth. I mean, I could, if the seventh works for people, I could see holding that open if we get the work done on the fifth grade, but I'd be uncomfortable just having one meeting just because something could come up on the fifth. Yeah. Mr. Mahan. Sounds good to me. Thank you. Mr. Dunn. It's, I guess my thought would be due one a week from today and the fifth if we want to rather than a Wednesday, but I can make things work. Yeah, I mean, if the board is inclined, I would prefer to do the fifth and then assuming that if we have to meet on Wednesday, it would be a pretty short meeting. I think that would work out better for me, but I can make whatever the board wants to do work. Mr. Chairman. Yes. Yeah, I thought there may have been a conflict for at least one member on the 29th and that was one of the reasons why we didn't select that date. Yeah, could we, if it's possible, could we put the, I was one with the conflict, but I don't have that anymore. We maybe could put the 29th back on. If that's okay with my colleagues. Yep. I think that works for everyone else. That works for me. Mr. Dunn. It works for me. And I certainly wouldn't have suggested it if I knew there was a conflict, so I'm glad that my ignorance worked in my favor. Yeah, that was the reason I wasn't suggesting it was because I was hoping to wear that conflict. So yeah, 29th, yes, I mean, then the fifth and then if we need the seventh, and hopefully we won't need the seventh. Okay. Is that cool? All right, so we'll plan on the 29th and the fifth for almost two meetings to wrap up our warrant article hearing. Quick question. Yes. Is this the longest streak of Monday meetings that's like where it's had? Cause we've never like got a role. If you ask my wife, then the answer is definitely yes. It's almost like we're the finance committee, except we're not meeting Mondays and Wednesdays. Actually back in the 90s, right before I ran for the board, they were meeting every Monday night for like three full months in a row. That's a whole nother story. But you know, I thank you. I apologize to my colleagues. I originally said no because my husband will be traveling, but I'm able to make that work cause I think he might be home that 29th. So I'm all set with that. And if we have to add another meeting, that's not great, but that's okay too. All right, so I don't think we need to vote on this. So we'll plan on meeting next Monday and the following Monday to wrap up our warrant article hearing. And that takes us to new business. Turning hand. The only thing that I wanna note is that we continue to work diligently with our legislative delegation on the special legislation. We've got most of it ironed out and those things should be submitted from the fall special town. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Two brief pieces of new business. One, the weather's getting nicer. So we are once again working on getting outdoor dining, going with the restaurants, planning and community development are working with the Chamber of Commerce and restaurants to get them up and running. And we should have an announcement or announcements to report soon on when, when we'll start to see those tables outside again. So hopefully the weather holds and people can start getting out of patronizing or only through restaurants. And then second, I wanted to mention the town applied participated with a group of eight other communities, the Cambridge Health Alliance and Tufts University to become a regional vaccination site. As I think the board knows we did our, what would have been our last first dose clinic last week will now roll out the remainder of the second dose clinics. But as an applicant or as part of this regional collaborative we found out last week that that collaboration was approved by the state. So it's been approved as a collaborative but not approved for vaccine yet. But we're hearing that vaccine doses are on the rise coming into the state. So we hope very soon will be part of this regional collaborative that will have doses in Arlington residents will be able to access vaccinations at a site at Tufts University, so much closer than Fenway Park, the Natick Mall or Schillett Stadium. So more to come on that, but I think it is positive news. And I hope it exemplifies our sort of tireless effort to try to get Arlington residents vaccinated as easily as possible. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Corsi? No, no business. You, Mr. Dunn? Yeah, one short one. I really loved the email that we got from Susan Elmore, a resident at North Cross Street and the town manager. She was looking for guidance about clogging which is when you pick up litter while you're jogging and then throw it away and the town manager clarified that it is indeed appropriate to throw it away and park receptacles. And I wanted to thank Ms. Elmore for helping keep Arlington clean. Mr. Diggins? I can't follow that. I have no business. Don? Just two, possibly three things. Spoke about the CDBG funding and the recovery act. I also know that myself and Mr. Corsi is chair of long range planning and Charlie Foskett and the town manager have had conversation amongst others regarding the recovery act monies and issuing a statement about sort of estimate of what those monies are and what they can be applied to. And I know there's been some postings by our colleagues on the school committee regarding those monies. I know there's an upcoming meeting on the 31st with the finance committee as well as I think April 12th with the long range planning committee that Mr. Corsi chairs and we'll be discussing that but it's kind of confusing to some in terms of the town of Arlington receives 30 something million in recovery act reimbursement for one year and the schools are going to receive monies from three different, their separate recovery act, their desi and their infrastructure funding. So I just kind of wanted to put that on the radar that we need to kind of keep that in mind. And then the other thing is something that I had been working on and Mr. Kiro sort of took the reins and I've taken it back. And what I'd like to do is ask the chair if it's appropriate to put on a select board meeting between a very brief agenda item between now and the 10th or we can do it after the 10th but I attended a Zoom meeting regarding civil discourse with the MMA Massachusetts Municipal Association which a lot of the stuff I already kind of knew but there were a couple of suggestions that really made sense to me. And one of them was some cities and towns when women or men take out papers for a city council or select board, they get the code of conduct or select person protocol book that Mr. Greeley and worked on and we now have, they get that when they're running which I think that's a good idea. But I don't think that's something we can do right now because I don't want anyone to say myself or the board sending it out saying that candidates need to be reminded of that. So what I'd like to do is a two pot request after the April 10th election, any new member that's been elected gets the code of conduct as it exists with the current select board. And we also have an agenda item that the select board discusses which I thought was a good idea that came out of the MMA civil discourse discussion is that actually two pot recommendation. Anytime anyone takes out papers for the select board they get the code of conduct or select person protocol book so that they know what it is they're signing up for. And then the other suggestion was which I'd like to be an agenda item along with that is that any other town committees, commissions, authorities, et cetera also either have a similar code of conduct and or have a uniform statement at their meetings as people participate in person or remotely to say that these committee members are conducting themselves in this way and we also expect that from the public. So along the issue of civil discourse making sure everybody's on the same page. So I'll work that with Mr. Heard as the current chairman if we can get that done before April 10th, that's great. If we can't I'll work with the next chairman but I just wanted to put it in you all's bonnet that that's something that I think we need to discuss in terms of before we can say that anyone who comes before us, this is what we expect of you if we make a statement and make it uniform across all of our committees and commissions that this is our statement how we're gonna conduct ourselves and we would appreciate the same from you. So thank you. Thank you. And my only piece of new business I just wanted to give a heartfelt thank you to Chief Larrity, Captain Flynn and Officer Brandon Wentz. Last week was my son's sixth birthday. We had a little outdoor event for some of his friends. I just he likes every day he comes home from school he puts his blue shirt on that he says this is Chief's outfit. And he says he wants to be the chief and he wants me to ask the town manager to make him chief. And I told him he has to wait till he graduates college which he now understands, but a couple of weeks ago I think my wife had seen something on Facebook that Captain Kern was retiring and he saw that as an opportunity to join the force. So he asked me to reach out to the chief and see if he could be hired as a police officer. So I had reached out to Chief Larrity to see if she could just send somebody by just to say hello to Dylan during his birthday and Officer Wentz and Captain Flynn showed up and Captain Flynn read him his oath of office to become an officer gave him a certificate and making him an honorary police officer in the APD. And it was really an amazing, amazing event. And a lot of people they were almost reduced to tears. So I just want to thank those three in the APD for, this is just another example of the community policing model that has been around in the APD for many years. And it was just, it was a really great event. He has now asked me that now that he's a police officer when does he have to go to the police station? I just, I tell them that everyone's working from home during COVID. So, but I do want to thank them for that. With that, I will take a motion to adjourn. Do we have an executive session, Mr. Chair? Regarding Eitron. Yes, we do. All right, we'll take a motion to adjourn to move to executive session. I'd like to make a motion to move to executive session and with attorney Heinz guidance that when we come out of executive session, unless he says differently, it will be for the purposes to adjourn. Thank you very much, Mrs. Mohan. And I just add that we're entering executive session for the purposes of discussing litigation with Eitron Incorporate. All right. And when we come out of executive session it's for the purposes to adjourn or to take a vote? I think what you've made clear is that, yes, to adjourn, that you'll adjourn in executive session. Okay, so that would be my motion that we enter into executive session. And when we finish, we come out by making a motion to adjourn. Thank you, Mr. Hart. All right. Thank you, Ms. Mahan. Mr. Dunn? Yes. All right, we have a motion that has been seconded. Attorney Heinz. Mrs. Mohan. Yes. Mr. Dacorsi. Yes. So as we finish by 11 o'clock, yes. Mr. Dunn. Yes. Mr. Hart. Mr. Hart. Yes. Okay. It's a unanimous vote to go into executive session for the purposes of discussing potential litigation with Eitron and that the board shall adjourn from the executive session and not be convened open session.