Boom, what's up fam? Anthony Johnson here today co-founder of the red man group founder 21 studios 21 convention 22 convention Patriot convention 21 University 10,000 of the things on the internet here with episode 167 of the red man group starring a special new guest to the show Joker from better bachelor And it's going to be kind of about his history and becoming the better bachelor that you guys know on YouTube He's actually achieved as you see on the channel here over a hundred and twenty million views on his channel Almost four hundred thousand subscribers, and here's another channel, too. I think with about see twenty thousand Subscribers on top of that. So he's a big youtuber in the man is fear usually become a well-known voice His videos are very popular and some of his videos have well over a million views 1.3 1.3 1.6 It's a big guy in the man is fair Excited to finally talk to him. It's the first time I've ever talked to him live here in video It's made great show before we get into the show I do want to give a shout out to our sponsor, which is our own event. That is 21 summit boom Tickets now on sale early bird tickets the event starts in a hundred and thirty one days in Orlando, Florida this October You can meet amazing speakers there like coach Greg Adams myself Richard Grannon Jack Donovan Michael Foster Elliott Hulse Jesse Lee Peterson and many more It actually contains three events that go on at the same time There's one for men one for fathers and husbands and one for women for the females wife training girlfriend training all that great stuff We make man alpha again. We rebuild the patriarchy and make women great again All the events of four days long Friday through Monday get tickets now at 21 studios calm Also big shout out to Joker you can support him not only his channel where you should subscribe I showed you a minute ago. He's also locals at better bachelor locals calm There's a link in the description of this video you can go join that and you should He actually is the reason that I started or one of the main reasons anyway But I started a locals for 21 studios after we got demonetized for a few weeks kicked out of YouTube partner program very suddenly December 31st, I think last year says a few months ago Joker better bachelor was one of the first guys I ever saw on locals taking it seriously and preemptively Planning ahead for any kind of you know screwing around by YouTube Where they demonetize you and you know kick you out of the programs cut your funds off stuff like that About any two for a long time. So I'm thankful to follow in his footsteps with that and our locals is doing pretty good So if you want to support our channel just like better bachelors you can go to 21 studios locals calm Now without further ado, please let me welcome to the show Joker from better bachelor Boom welcome to show good morning. Good evening good afternoon depending on where you are. Thanks, man Yeah, man. I'm really glad you're here. I've been following your channel for a couple years now Both personally a little bit and then also a lot of friends that follow you and stuff They've been bugging me about you for years I had interview joker you got a game at 21 and like all these things Yeah, thanks, man. Yeah, I tend to Like I'm leaving for Tennessee in two three weeks and then I'm down in Tennessee for a week then Florida and then I don't know what I'm going to do for the summer. I got to be in Tennessee for them I got 25 acres. I just purchased out there. So there'll be land clearing and marking off where I want the house and Then I'll probably leave. I mean I've got a project manager there that's going to be handling that And I'll probably tour around the summer and I don't know find some trouble to get into I I bought a little cargo van or a cargo trailer And even though I have a little teardrop trailer. I may for fun on one of my other channels record building that into a into a little Like a tiny house trailer type thing. I don't know. I never know I'm always for the fans who don't know you let's back up for a second So you're if I understand like you're saying you're building a house in Tennessee on 25 acres You also have a history of building like a school bus or like some sort of bus you built What happened that thing? It's still around. Um, so long story short Or short story long depending on how you want to look at it. Um, I was a network engineer I have a fortune 500 company. They kind of started getting into the A little bit into the world politics. Uh, they they A be cut got get too stressful like for what I wanted out of life The money was good. I invested in in bitcoin when it was Three figures like $600 $800 $1200 that kind of stuff Damn, um, and then when that took off I kind of said, all right, you know, it gives me a little bit of leg room And I I quit the job sold everything sold my house liquidated everything And then backpacked around the world for about 15 months I did 36 countries out of backpack with just a tent and And hostels and and that was Life altering I would suggest anyone to do that at least once in your life Then I came back Took a 43 foot long old school bus and 90 I think it's a 93 International and changed that into a nice little tiny house drove it around Uh until add transmission problems and then I parked it in Wyoming until I can get somebody to work on it And bought a little teardrop trailer to finish my summer off And uh, the bus will sit there it, you know, we're gonna have uh Gas it or diesel at six to ten bucks, you know a gallon here for the next uh foreseeable future And that's five miles to the gallon. I mean it's it's huge. So I said, all right, I'm gonna park that for a little while Got the land we're gonna have clearing that and then once that's done I'll probably move the bus to the land And uh, and then I want to buy another three to five acres And on that I'm going to build like a steel building insulate it um probably do like a 40 by 40 steel building and just Turn it into like a a bunk row almost like a military type facility where you know, I was in the service for four years and you sleep 60 guys in a bay So if you can put up a little bit of snoring and you know, two toilets and and two showers for 60 guys Probably turn that into like a retreat for guys to they just want to take a couple weeks off grid It'll still have a lot of drinking water and you know, all the amenities, but The guys just want to sit around a campfire at night and cooking I don't know cooking some dogs or barbecue and drinking beers and And uh, you know talking about life and stuff like that.  Uh, we'll call it friend club like where you can just come and hang out I might get a pool table or ping pong or something like that, you know have a sports screen and a bar and Archery range, you know, just some other fun activities so guys can come and take a vacation and That's the most important thing. I think with Men today is finding Community and sanity. I mean So many places tell guys they're the evil ones and the wrong ones and the bad ones and The failure of society when in truth, we know it's the opposite Do you think that's why the man is fear is gaining popularity over the years? I mean you mentioned community and sanity. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I mean You know here. I was a guy that was um You know, I've been in in relationships long-term relationships. I've I've done the When I was in my 20s, I've done the hookup culture. I've I've kind of done I checked out the the What do you want to call the The dating, you know Dating artists, I guess you'd call them or pick up artists, you know, I was very early into that I didn't get into it like these guys, but I read about it. I checked it out and and You know, because I like learning things So I've kind of done it all and as I got older I realized, you know something I think Everybody's getting this wrong. I think if you put your validation in a wife or a career or Whoever That's not you When it all goes south on you, you feel like you're left alone Like your world is shattered. You know guys give up their wives or give up their lives Their jobs their careers to support their wives or their kids They give give give give and when you give everything to something and then that thing is gone It decides to leave you where it falls apart A lot of guys are left with a life that's empty and there's there's nothing left for them And that's where they start contemplating You know deleting themselves or or others Yeah, and and I think as they get out there and they start looking for Dating advice, maybe that leads to just being a good man advice and how to be happy on your own advice and Uh, then they may dive deeper into finding out the truth about feminism Or they they're watching a commercial and it's like why is the dad always the stupid Lazy one and it's the wife or the mother that's the creative smart one holding the family together And they start drifting Little by little I think to where it opens their eyes and they say, you know something Um, maybe I don't agree with all the messages here. Maybe I have a wife or a family. Maybe I'm happy but I see what society's doing. I see what society's talking about when it comes to men and everything else And um, I don't like it and here are 100,000 500,000 a million other guys That have gone through the same things I have. I'm not alone. I'm not crazy. I'm not the only one that sees this There are things out there in life to chase after or to enjoy that don't rely on other people Supporting me or validating me or or being there for me This is going to be okay. You know, this is going to be okay. I'm going to be okay I'm not the only one and and that's I think that's why it grows and then each person finds a maybe a creator or Someone's message that resonates with them and they kind of settle in, you know, the first people I found was like coach greg adams and sandman and Turd flinging monkey is his own I mean, he was one of the first ones I found. He's his own thing. Uh, you know, uh, chronic It's um undead chronic, right? What's that undead chronic? Yeah undead chronic who keeps coming and going Time after time because youtube keeps keeps getting rid of them And and again, you may find somebody, you know, uh, rollo tamasi Um, you may find creators that you click with or don't click with He's been critical of you recently by the way a few months ago. He was coming after you a little bit Yeah, you know, the thing about rollo is that um and the other creators that maybe I don't know make commentary on What I say or come after me or whatever is my my whole feelings about that is great. I'm fine with that like Everybody's allowed to have their opinion. Um, they may disagree with me. I think rollo had stated something like, um, I don't know. I don't belong in the manosphere.  Nothing Nothing bothers you. So, you know, rollo can do hit pieces on me or be critical of me or whatever I don't care. Uh, I welcome him to it. If he'd like to have a debate or discussion about it I'm always down with that. I'd like to hear specifically why he thinks maybe I don't belong but It won't be the first time I I've been told I don't belong somewhere don't belong in something. It's not gonna hurt my feelings any Yeah, that's funny. I want to take a step back. Um, you mentioned world shattering event I think was the exact terminology used And it's interesting you mentioned that because one of the first guys ever heard say that word was dr Sean smith, if you know him No, I'm not familiar with him. Who is he? Oh, he's dr shanti smith. He's awesome Uh, he spoke at 21 convention a few times. He wrote the tactical guide to women He used to run a podcast as well rich cooper for about a year or year and a half I always called before the train wreck. It was pretty popular All right, I'll I'll make a note of that and look into it. Yeah, he's kind of like the man of spheres Own jordan peterson. He's a clinical psychologist out of colorado. Really awesome guy But anyway, he just He's one of the few guys I've heard use that term world shattering event and I love it I'm glad you brought it up because that I think that to me describes perfectly what a lot of guys go through with divorces and nasty breakups I had sort of a divorce toxic relationship breakup back in 2016 And world shattering I heard it from Sean about a year and a half after that or two years or something like that And I'm like, man, that hits the nail net for so many guys But some people don't quite make it there either like well smith, for example Someone who I think Could go through that and probably should go through that but he's like not quite there It's almost like he's constipated in a way and this is like very unhealthy marriage Yeah So could you expand on that though?  Well, I think so, you know a lot of guys My family my mother and father were married for Close to 60 years before my father passed away And my grandparents same thing 65 years, uh, you know get married 20 die in their 80s That's 60 65 years with somebody Aunt uncle the same way, you know everybody in my life or in my family they got married They worked through the problems. They stuck with it. It was traditional the men worked the women were Stay at home moms and housekeepers and great cooks and it was a very traditional And when I was a young guy talking about dating with my father He said he said, you know, your job as a man is to protect the family provide for the family Make sure that you know, your wife is happy and her job will be to take care of of the family And that's how I was raised and then through a Marriage and a divorce where she ended up bailing on me for a guy that was A little bit older more established more successful um, that was That was a hard blow, but I said, hey, you know what maybe I just picked the wrong woman Uh, I went in back into the dating scene, you know casual hookups kept it and then at the age of 28 I ended up meeting a woman that was the opposite of my first wife she was a A biologist phd biologist Not extremely hot but extremely funny and intelligent now going and I I really cared for her Uh, and that lasted about eight years until she just kind of one day said, uh, I just don't feel it anymore Like the the romance is fizzled Uh, you know, it's a marriage of convenience at that point and I said well I don't want to be in that type of marriage and and I ended up leaving that one Then I went back to the dating kind of hookup thing and um And then I had on the mid the mid 2000s at this point or let's see So 2008 is when I got my uh second divorce Okay, and then I kind of casually dated till 2014 2015 that I met somebody much younger than me um But had we had so many hobbies That were the same and we liked the same things and we had a similar outlook on life And I thought hey this maybe I'm not going to get married again I'm I but I never lost anything in a wedding because or in a divorce because I never had much of anything And I said, uh, but but I do like this person. I do care for this person and come to find out It was 100 an illusion The good girl next door that I thought I was dating Uh was sleeping around behind my back and lying to me and and doing and and just like that I realized That I had been so fooled by a woman I mean and I I won't say I was quote redpilled, but I knew what was up You know after a couple divorces after the casual dating scene Um, I knew a lot of what we talked about. I knew it But I still fell into the trap of where I missed it and I got Gaslit so incredibly bad. I said that was my world shattering moment I said, there's if I cannot trust my own senses and my own eyes and ears and I think this is a good sweet caring kind woman, but in reality She was nothing nothing like what I thought she was It destroyed and shattered my reality so much. I just said I have to find the truth behind this How can somebody be this type of person? So I started looking into psychology and uh ego versus uh id and I started kind of going down a Psychological evaluation of understanding human beings Did you look into cluster b disorders as well at that time cluster b, you know a bipolar Narcissism, you know, I just went down that whole gamut for several years And it wasn't a dark place for me. Uh, it was more of a an enlightenment like, okay, maybe this Maybe everything I've told and and been and been living my whole life. Maybe that was the lie Maybe the truth is People are more selfish more self-centered more Egotistical more narcissistic more self-involved And there isn't that traditional woman that will love you forever Unconditionally and be there by your side that you have to bring money or fame or looks or Something that she wants that is a higher quality than than she is in other words hypergamy You have to bring that and the minute you don't and that slips It's over and you know through this through these experiments and in Reading and discussions I've had with other like-minded men You realize okay everything that I thought You know learning from my father and and everything in history That's gone now like we're in a different age and era And those women do still exist It's a needle in a needle stack as I'm often to say Because you're going to have to go through a lot of pain and blood to find the right one And then you have to ask yourself is it worth it?  It was all an act. It was all a sham And it happened one text one text that I caught that you go like what's going on Like literally get lightheaded and tunnel vision.  Uh, you can search the speech on youtube It's still there. It's demonetized a couple years ago. Finally. It's also blocked in australia It's blocked in australia too the whole country blocked it They had some weird defamation law in australia So even though the woman didn't file defamation charges or anything like that any accusations The whole country blocked it. You can't watch it in australia Anyway, the speech is called marrying medusa and this is where I discovered that I married a uh escort the hooker prostitute Right, I don't know if you're familiar with that But just total cluster b very similar to what you just described Thought I had this sweet nice girl blah blah blah turns out. She was escorting Before me with me and during the marriage And that was my world shattering event and I was already very familiar with being a pickup artist going out You know hooking up with girls My understanding of women was very shallow and I did not have a red-pill understanding of women Particularly in a long term and deeper scale basis, right? Like I knew almost any girl could go to a bar and hook up but the Deeper complexities of what could go on years down the road were much different And yeah waking up one day to realize your wife's prostitute was pretty pretty jaw dropping, bro That if that's not an earth shattering life shattering moment. I don't know what is but But the thing that always amazes me is and again, this isn't all Like dating coaches and all that but my favorite response is well You should have you should have vetted her better or you should have been more selective and people do not understand that You it's it's amazing how you can be manipulated even having your eyes open for it And still be completely and utterly fooled Even if you know what you're looking for It's it's shocking to the point of of scary where you're like, you know, it Again reality literally gets shattered where you just I do not I don't I don't know what to believe or trust anymore Can I trust anybody? Like who who is this person that I've hitched my my wagon to and what in the hell's going on And when you have that epiphany type moment It's scary, uh, you know the the multiple stages of Of red pill it doesn't start with rage. Let me tell you it starts with heart crushing defeat confusion mystifying You know Incrude deli cruella.  How could I have fallen for this? Why did I see it? How how how? Then you start seeing it in other things other relationships other news articles other things and you realize That's where the rage starts building up where you feel like, you know, everything's against me and nothing's working out And then when you move through that and you get to the point of okay I have a new understanding of the world Now, how do I participate in it and how do I understand what's going on and how do I live in it? And how do I be happy in it? I think that's the progression that that uh, we all go through if we've gone through any of this stuff Yeah, I wanted to bring that up. I'm glad you did It sounds like you connected the dots it took however many months or years But that there's a much wider problem in culture and it wasn't specific What's she what that woman did to kind of wake you up that world-shattering event That woke you up to a larger reality that was around you the whole time And they're like you saying like you observed as a kid growing up your grandparents Both sides I think you said or your parents grandparents and uncle And that the whole system or the culture that was in place to facilitate these like 50 year Super long-term relationships like I'm 33 myself. So thinking about a relationship that last half a century It's hard to even fathom that I mean that's significantly longer than I've been alive But that was that's normal my grandparents the same thing both my grandparents that's were married for My maternal side was married till my grandfather died for like 40 years and my other Grandparents are married for almost 60 So I was around that too growing up and that's like almost all gone now It's hard to imagine millennials and zoomers making that uh any more than maybe one percent of them Making that happen or a couple percent Right. I I think it's a misunderstanding men misunderstand love I think it's as simple as that, you know my understanding of love when When I was young was I will love her unconditionally. She'll she'll be there for me I'll be there for her we're a partnership. We're in this together long term Because that's what it looked like when you look at these long-term relationships from maybe parents or grandparents but I think what was different then is a People can crap on the you know traditional relationship, but I think what was different then is a man worked Hard maybe built calluses maybe broke a sweat Maybe worked in the sun maybe you know worked on a farm whatever he busted his ass And he came home with the money But he also had the strength and he had the independence and he had the wherewithal to take care of a family the woman's The woman's part of the relationship was equally as important just completely different side of the coin Well, he had the authority. He had the authority to them. Well, of course, of course, um The well her because he he was in charge of the family everything And then a subset of that is she was in charge of the home. She took care of the house She took care of the kids. She made sure to cook She took care of the laundry So she took care of the home and the man and the man took care of everybody And and I think what's happened between the parents the grandparents and these relationships We saw lasting forever is that women today are More of a whole on their own and as our men really so like myself. I'm single I've never had or dated or married anyone that it was a better cook than I am Because I learned how to cook because I like good food. I am the best. I am the best cook. I know Um But because I make my money I take care of my apartment or my home I do my own laundry I cook and again, I haven't met anybody that cooks as well as I'd all of a sudden I say what do I need a woman for I need a woman for Um, maybe some partnership maybe some friendship and maybe some bedroom fun That's really not much when you think about it. Like there's quite a few women that can meet those needs Then when you look at a woman and you say, okay, she can work now Uh, the pay gap has been blown out of the water for years So she can make as much money as a guy. She has a better chance of getting an interview A better chance of actually getting the job than a man does now women are graduating college at 60 percent of the graduates Are women 40 or men they're doing very well for themselves So now a woman says hey, you know what I make my own money I don't need to rely on a guy that could leave me and take the money away and leave me stranded I take care of my own apartment give or take depending on some of the photos you see Um, I I can I can cook or I can go get my own food Um, I don't need protection because big daddy government, you know takes care of that for me So all of a sudden what does a woman need a man for? Hey, good-looking guy shag me have a little bit of fun But other than that, I don't need no man And so what happens now is since there's no reliance on each other At any point either person could say I'm done Or there's something better over here or something more fun or more interesting And of course the butterflies and the feelings usually leave after six months to two years Well, don't forget the financial incentive too for woman to divorce She can very easily get alimony child support take the kids. I have your assets or more I mean It's like for her for her not to I mean look at Jeff Bezos's wife Right his ex-wife for her not to divorce would cost her access to 19 billion or something Right. That's a hell of a price tag to ignore Yeah, and and but I would even say even that aside and and I will give you that yes A lot of women leave with golden parachutes the woman can cheat and she still leaves with half and child support and the kids and Um But even that aside just going to the young 20 somethings That are dating before they even get into the relationship and the marriage and the kids and all that right from an early age Women say I got my own money got my own place Got I can do everything that a man can do only better because that's what they've been told And so they say I don't need a guy for anything other than a hot lay and so now men are Being used by women very set similar to what women or men used to use women And because of that there's no reliance on anybody anymore and once that's gone Well, then then dating in and the relationship world becomes like fast food It's what sounds good in the moment and the minute i'm satisfied. I can start looking for the next You know quote meal And they move on to the next guy and the next guy and the next guy and get since guys will sleep down And women want to date up You know we talk about 10 and 20 the top 10 20 30 of guys Have access to tons of women and since the women aren't bringing cooking and laundry and Well, they're bringing their own kids not your kids And you know, they're not they're not bringing anything to the relationship anymore other than their looks and their willingness to put out And feminism is told them all it's okay. It's okay to even charge like, you know, this Sex work is real work and so the guys ultimately I think Many times feel like they're losing because they say I'm never gonna find a wife I'm never gonna have kids if I do get married. I can lose everything You know, it's very depressing for me and I always say put a pause on that Reverse it. You're actually winning. This is the best time in life to be a man unless You want a traditional relationship, you know that that part is going to be Very very tough for you And even if you think you've got it 10 years later She may choose her mind and leave with the golden parachute But if men enter this as hey, you know what there's no bachelor tax like there used to be I'm not shamed for being a single guy It's okay. If I go out and hire a girl for a couple nights a month for a little bit of in and out bedroom fun That's not shamed anymore because women are saying that it's okay I don't have to worry about 250,000 per kid to raise them. I don't at all of a sudden all these social expectations are taken away from men So now where does that leave men?   You don't have these other resources draining from you and the woman that would have brought the the uh home housekeeping and the cooking and Taking care of the family She doesn't exist anymore or there's such few numbers of them that you just forget it But you can become self dependent Or self independent.  Because I want to go, you know jump on the phone or whatever And she'll cook you the dino chicken nuggets that coach greg says Yeah, well dinosaurs exactly. So instead of that Once or twice a month, you know instead of getting pity sex from the wife that doesn't really want you anymore You can go out on a fresh date and one time is a brunette one times a blonde one times redhead Pay three four hundred bucks go out on a great date. You know, it's gonna end and you getting laid Call it a good time and and go home A lot of guys may not want to do that But smart men will adapt to the situation they're in And this is the situation we're in and you can either say I want no part of it I'm going to be independent do my own thing and kind of go your own way or you can say Hey, you know what I still want to date, but I know the the caveats of it. I know what to expect I know I'm going to have to you know be a 10 and I'll be lucky to have an eight Nowadays or I'm going to save up some money. I'll just rent a professional a couple times a month And believe it or not. That's probably cheaper than having a wife. So and it's certainly cheaper than having an ex-wife So I think you just need to adjust the way that you look at the world and you can still find happiness I mean, there's many ways to find happiness. It's just not the traditional loving wife that will love you forever and be there forever No matter what that's just that doesn't it's it's it's there But again, you're gonna have to look awful hard enough along to find it and then you have to say Is it worth it? And that's for each individual to decide Yeah, it's a risk management is what it is. It's really high risk even if you can find it Which does take a ridiculously long amount of time the dating pool has like changed massively Which brings me up to something you mentioned about two couple minutes ago here It's something that that annoys me and I'm wondering if uh, you have similar views are the same So you mentioned like the guys getting all the girls are the top 10 20 maybe 30% somewhere in that top chunk of men Right, but then you get the tradcons and traditional conservatives And they blame men for hookup culture and all this stuff And it's like men you're just whitewashing Or generalizing all men to be doing this behavior and the reality is there's like 70 80% of men are not getting laid at all Right, or they have a notch count of like three at, you know, 30 years old So do you see the same is that annoying to you with tradcons? You see the same thing going on they just blame all men for something a very select number of men can even do I I think men need to stop being angry at other men for the dating situation Again, it's understanding men There are men that will sleep with married women. There are married women that'll sleep with married men or You know people are going to do what's in their best interest again. We're in a very selfish society um, the dating market is 100 percent women And and what I mean by that is if women collectively today said you don't get in my pants unless you Say we're in a dedicated relationship one on one You have to date me for a while at whatever that time frame is take me on dates Let me get to know the real you and and I want to understand that you are a good man Then you get in my panties If all women all women said that tomorrow Dating market had changed 100 percent The the players would would be called players and they wouldn't get any action The guys that are maybe the hard-working blue collar guy that would jump through hoops to be good for a woman A woman would find that out because again, there's only so many men and so many women to go around and and it's a It's a supply and demand thing but when women say He doesn't have to prove himself to me. He doesn't have to really even treat me well But if he's super hot and I get to go out with him and he gives me the tingles I'll sleep with him to try to capture him and to try to make him want me Well, those guys are not going to settle for one They've got 20 others that are out there trying to do the same thing And so the top 10 or 20 percent of guys, they're not dictating the market They're reacting to it and and they're smart for doing so I mean if girls were knocking on my door I can say, oh, I'm a you know, relatively traditional guy But look if I had eights nines and tens banging my door down wanting to to Just come over and don't even worry about a date. We met on tinder and I'll come over and smash What guy's going to be like no, I really don't want to sleep with an incredibly hot. Of course they are Of course they are the the rest of the guys the other 70 80 percent. Yeah, they're going to be upset But you can't blame the 10 or 20 percent of guys for taking advantage of it because You know, we all would I think at least most men The other thing is if if you're a guy like me for I'll just use myself as an example I'm bald. I'm five foot six. I'm probably 20 25 pounds overweight But I've saved relatively well, and I'm I'm okay in the finance department A lot of women are going to look by me because I'm five six.   She's she's showing you her assets Guys have to do the same thing whether it's car, whether it's a nice house Whether whatever you have to show you make that money And what you're saying too with the the physicality that the obesity epidemic has made it easier to be a top 10 percent man physically Oh, sure. Oh, definitely. Definitely.  Then you hit the gym Then you start building that muscle.  That's pretty tough.  I just won't talk to you anymore That's also top 10 or 20% guy, you know So there's many ways that if you're an average guy you can become a seven if you're seven you can become a nine It's just going to take work and it's a lot easier for people today to say, you know what? Screw this. This is unfair the market's unfair these tall natural born You know Henry Cavill looking dudes they get all the game screw it.  Have you at least got one outfit that looks good? Have you gotten really comfortable and really good at game if you do all those things? Then you say, you know, this isn't worth it. This isn't worth my time or effort You've won the game But if you never try it if you never go out there and at least give it a really good go Yeah sour grapes like you never really it's and it's a lot easier to say Uh, world the world's unfair I quit without ever trying and I know this because it's something I used to do But when I was in my late 20s, I got I'm really good at talking to people.  It's not going to hurt my feelings. I don't care That right there not bad Then I went to the gym. I was an ultramarathon runner I missed those days and I need to get back to the gym but um But I was in I did have that six pack. I did have pretty good muscles to where I could put on a tight t-shirt And I'll tell you it I'm I'm still only five six maybe five seven on a on a good day But I would go I would go places and I would notice women would find a reason to talk to me and again I'm not special But when you're athletic and you're a six pack Women look at that and they go he's got a nice body. That's kind of hot Just the same way men look at them now They might look at your face and say it's a dog shit, but but at least you're heading in the right direction And then and then you show hey, you know what? I got a nice car and I'm confident If you're confident you look like you're at least doing okay for yourself and you're rocking a A muscular six pack tight body your top 20% or at least At least this is one of the things that is annoying to me There's some guys in the black pill community and black pill wing of a man's fur They call like looks maxing or if I'm saying that looks maxing But basically they get really mad about like if they're not born like super Henry Cavill, you know ultra handsome But it's like you can't control that. Oh, you can control your body to a huge extent You can control your finances your your style the way you dress the way you live the way you talk the way you act But they get so mad about things that they were just born as and it's like man That's not that's not fair to yourself or to the guy who's born genetically good looking Like he didn't choose that he didn't do that Who's born that way well my challenge to anybody that thinks that way Is slow down for a minute because again, it's very easy to get Kind of black and I some of the stuff I talk about is pretty black pill Uh, because I don't want anybody to cherry coat anything like it's going to be tough But next time any guy that feels that way next time you're out go to Don't necessarily go to walmart because we all know what you find there go to a shopping mall Go to a sporting event go to um I don't know average Activities, okay.   You know the ladies love him. Is it really that many? Or do you see a lot of guys that maybe are taller than you?  Okay, maybe a few But how many of them are also tall how many of them are also dressed to the nines How many of them, you know, and when you start adding it up you go Okay, we're talking about one percenters not 10 or 20 how many are intelligent I mean we'd rather be tall and dumb or short and smart like there's trade-offs, right? Right, right How many of them are comfortable talking to strangers and can drop a joke off off the top of their head at any moment And when you when you start boiling that down you realize, okay There's really not that many of those guys and and I say this again at five six When I was in shape I still had the ability to talk to people I still have the ability to joke and be comfortable in my own skin Right my height hasn't changed in all my life but Despite my height despite my ability to talk to people the biggest thing that's changed in my life to where I got a lot of attention from women and women don't notice me is my physical shape When I if you bust your chest Your shoulders and your arms those three things get get your shoulders as wide as possible Your chest built out get your your biceps and your your upper arms Maxed right because and you still got to do what leg workouts You don't want to be chicken little But you start building those up to wear t-shirts that are mediums or large or whatever size you are Starting to get tight on those three areas and you keep the fat off your waist Right there top 10 or 20 percenter. That's it. That's it But so many guys will look at this and say we'll screw it and and it's not fair I my challenge always to these guys is to say look If you don't do it and you don't succeed It's easy to point the finger to everybody else or society or the world and say the world's not fair Now offload offload responsibility is what they're doing, right? Right, right?  And that's where I think more and more men coming to this community say You know what? I I guess I don't care because all the woman brings is a warm piece of pie that I can slide into Maybe a couple times a week But it's going to cost me hitting the gym and dieting and exercising and making good money And being confident being strong and and by the time you add up all those things just to get laid a guy's like Nah, like it's just not worth it for me. And I think that's where a lot of guys land And and good for them for doing it because that means they're happy without Without jumping through the hoops The only time you should do that stuff is for yourself And then want hoping to get the byproduct of women when you start doing it for women You've already lost because then if you don't have the success with women you feel like I did all this for nothing If you do you're controlled you're controlled by other people is what's happening. They're controlling you in your life Yep, do everything for yourself and the byproduct of what you'll get from that That's that's the gravy. Otherwise if you're doing it for for the for the woman or for anything like that It's a lost cause Yeah, we got a follower super chat can't say the guy's name humble man. I guess 13 13 Joker go into about a foreign brides are the most independent of the bunch. It's never discussed Hard sale. Yeah, so, um I think one thing that I noticed when I was traveling around the world Uh, and and I'll use again. I use myself because I'm a perfect example Um, I was in better shape because I was backpacking and I walked something like 6500 miles in a year You know, I was doing 20 25 miles a day with a 50 pound backpack on my back So my legs were strong my upper body was strong, you know, I was and I looked good I looked really good. I was healthy. I had tan because I was in the sun Um, but I'm sure I'm 5 6 I had now in Iceland the women's average height is like 5 10 5 11 I came up to their like their boobs like they were all huge, right? I didn't get much attention from Icelandic women if I based my success in dating on Icelandic women I'm a zero But when I got to Southeast Asia, South Korea, Japan the Philippines, Thailand Um, and some of those other areas I I cleaned up in the dating world. Why I was taller than the women Um, I'm I'm an american or even if you're british or if you're canadian, whatever You're the western man. I was in good shape. Um, I have a beard which is rare over there A bald which is kind of rare over there. I was different. I was unique. I was a challenge I was and I was tall And I was successful because I didn't have to work.  You know, I'll pick up artisans. That's it. And I was walking around in a pair of old hiking boots and and uh travel pants and like I wasn't dressed up. I looked like I was homeless But I had no problems going on tinder or bumble or any of the dating apps or even meeting girls that were Maybe giving a coffee. You know, I'd just chat them up a little bit Dating was easy. Um in poland dating was easy in and uh, not in russia in ukraine Dating was easy. Why now it doesn't mean that you're going to be able to sleep with them because they're much older fashion type women where You know, they want a date date and I was only there for a few weeks So they knew I wasn't going to stick around and they weren't going to put out But the point is I was on going on dates with like nines and tens like these were gorgeous women And they really were hoping hey Can we get to know each other can we can now maybe they wanted to get married and come back to the states and take half My money. I don't know but the point is had I decided to live there or stay there for six months or a year I would had a nine or a 10 girlfriend That that I could have been with I don't know what her motives would have been But the point is you could at least get your leg in the door Same thing in in southeast asia. You can at least go out with fun girls in it I didn't pay for a date in southeast asia. The women paid for me They're the ones that you wanted to show me around and I'm nothing special The difference is I'm comfortable in my skin And I could make them laugh and we had fun Well over there. You're like you're like a nine though to them. You're like this American white man balding with a beard tall guy Well, I told them yeah But I love fallen by the way, it's one of my favorite countries in the world I spent a month there for our convention in 2019 amazing It's conservative conservative women and yeah, I mean the other they're crazies like any place else, but it's a beautiful country Um, but but my whole point is that you got to get out there and you got to I mean if it's important to you A flight to thailand 1200 bucks, right? Uh, maybe round trip might cost you I don't know 1500 but to stay there in a hostel five bucks a night in in a like five star hostel where it's beautiful Wi-Fi You know good food the country is amazing And I was there a month from thailand that I went to the philippines because you can only stay for 30 days On your visa So I was in thailand for a month and the philippines for a month and thailand for a month and the philippines For a month because each one counted as resetting and those four months My god, I I lived like a king Five bucks a night in a beautiful hostel a hotel room on the beach 13 dollars a night Not in one of the main cities but out of the way Um women that would happily go on a date with you and spend the night with you or a week with you Or a couple weeks with you Work time permitting They'd cook you dinner they'd pay for the restaurants and you wake up and and she's washing your clothes in the in the sink Because a lot of places don't have the washing machines and dryers So they still do laundry in some of the smaller towns by hand And you wake up and it's 7 30 in the morning your breakfast almost done And she's washing your clothes with a bar of soap in a sink and ringing it out hanging it up So you have something and you're like what in the like i'm just some loser chump here And this girl's treating me like a five star So can you imagine an american millennial girl some thought Doing that hand washing your clothes cooking you breakfast at eight in the morning like never i've never even heard of that in america In my lifetime never never never and but that's okay Again, but again assuming assuming the world is this way and there's nothing you can do about it Have you traveled the world? Have you done the best you can do for yourself? Are you in great? Have you maximized all the things that are available to you to maximize? And have you looked at all options and if you've done that And you say it's not worth it for me.  I'm hooking up with girls. I'm enjoying this. Yeah, it's costing me the dates No, I don't keep them around for very long, but I enjoy it and it's worth it to you You've won always look for what's going to allow you to win And and if you don't If you don't win because you didn't try Then you've lost you haven't won anything at least at least try if it's important to you Or it's like the old saying the old saying is uh, what is it? You miss a hundred percent of the shots You don't take you just automatically screwed yourself Exactly, exactly and I can say for me. I was lucky enough that I Being kind of a skinny guy my muscles show up pretty well when I am skinny not like a Fat bastard than I am now but when I was pretty successful dating when I was younger before the internet before social media before The dating apps I I did great and you know something Now it's different even for me Like I I've been on a dating app. My god Swiping good luck getting a conversation. Good luck getting her to participate in the conversation Is like dragging a zombie out of the grave and trying to have a conversation with That's where I said, you know what I've I've I've done okay in my life Things have changed in the last five or seven years the effort.  I'm going to look for something else. It's going to make me happy And once you've done that you're good Now is this kind of like an enjoy the decline mindset or is it a little bit? No, I'm very much now. I've got the lawn chair out. I got the cold beer I got the the barbecue on the grill next to me sitting on a hilltop watching society Just run like ants and and go crazy Because you have to you have to I mean I'll go down a rabbit trail here. But but look at the latest Offerings from disney and the marvel universe.  Look at commercials same thing. Look at johnny depp's Uh trial, you know the people sat and watched and got the evidence and made up their own mind that this guy was railroaded That that she's probably the bad manipulative harmful one And there's still people out there saying that that uh, she's raked under the coals and and this is why women struggle because no one believes them No, no, we got to see the proof. We got to see the evidence We got to make the minds up for themselves But there's still people out there saying that she's wrong and he he's okay He got away with this because of patriarchy.  I don't care about society that badly. I'm gonna make my money I'm gonna find my own way to make to be happy and successful and I'm out Those are really the only two choices and then it's surprise peak at you face When men back out of society and a woman gets attacked on a subway and guys are like you're brave and strong deal with it yourself Yeah, or if I jump in there She's gonna say that I was you know part of the group that was trying to take advantage of her and I get arrested Or I saw a new video just yesterday in new york on the new york subway the exact thing you're talking about Maybe saw that and now they're and now guys are like, you know what number one? I could get blamed for this number two I certainly won't be praised as a hero Out of this number three. I might get knifed And and number four, uh, you expect this of me after crapping on me for the last decade I don't think so And um and more and more men are and that's this is the downfall of society When strong men walk away all you're left with is is the weak men That will will bow down to women's whims and wills and it'll become a very emotional non logical society Things will fall off a cliff And then when it reaches bottom and everybody's screaming for the strong men Strong guys will have to make that determination of am I going to come back and be part of this society? Or is it not worth it for me anymore? And when what's the reason a guy has to be a strong member of society? He's not appreciated It's not going to win him any women or favors or awards or rewards If anything he's going to be chastised and castigated for it and he just says i'm good Or you'll end up in jail or dead. Well, exactly. He's done exactly and that's why you know My answer to all this Is the extreme like I am on the far extreme end of this which is 25 acres i'm going to learn how to farm i'm going to have enough solar panels I'm not going to be hooked up to the grid i'm going to have a well where i'm not hooked up to city water I'm going to have a my own septic tank that's good for 20 or 30 years So my food my water my excrement is taken care of My electricity will be taken care of for at least you know a few decades And and I can grow my own food And I can be completely dependent then if I want to participate in society I can and if I don't I don't have a utility bill the most I got to do is pay tax on my property every year and other than that I'm gone man. I'm a ghost now. That's the extreme but look at the other extreme Women can call men toxic bad harmful whatever and guys are like. Yes. Yes.  I think my extreme is the right way. It's not a negative It's not a hateful. It's not an angry. It's not a black pill. It's just I'm going to look out for me and y'all are on your own and For me. Yeah, this is this is truly going your own going your own way, man Like farming solar elliott holst if you know him did something similar. He has a family but he has 39 40 acres he bought in central florida about 45 minutes for me And he might he's stuff solar so he might do that again And you know he's getting cows and animals and ducks and chickens and bees and like This guy is he's getting prepped for whatever is coming, which is probably a collapse Um before I ask you the next question I actually want to ask you a little bit about collapse. I want to give a shout out to this guy I'm talking to this guy on instagram a little bit. So thanks for the super chat 99 bucks. I'm in my late fifties president two companies wealthy very fit I deal with young women. They cannot even get up and make my morning coffee without drama Women don't want children enjoy life while the west plunges it to its death Adj did great. I'm Paris Morgan show. Thanks. Keep that photo up for a second. What do you notice about the guy? He's he's center of attention in his own photo and and he's got a girl that's Secondary bleeding on him part of the photo though.  I don't mean that I just mean live your life for you And if she wants to be a part of it she'll come along for the ride And if she doesn't then she won't but the minute that you let her take control of the relationship and you're part of her life Then when she decides that you're not necessary or there's someone better that comes along You're out and you gave up what you wanted your career path your life your hobbies your passions for someone that Probably will throw you aside as long as you live your life for yourself Whether you have someone or not You're gonna win and and that's what I think men get wrong.  I mean this ironically this attitude is extremely attractive to women They're drawn to this like magnets. This is they get variations of this from the alpha male The chads and the chads ill is off tender these guys just do what they want that they're living their own life Right. Why do women chase the bad boys?   She needs that she doesn't feel safe otherwise And it can't be a game. It can't you can't fake it. It can't be real Because if it is she'll eventually catch on and and how do you get to that place? By by living for you by doing what's right for you by chasing your dreams And then if she says well, that's it.   Thank you, sir Focus on your money. Focus on your health. Don't base your worth any woman a woman Working out has helped me so much.  I've heard it called from one of old speakers scowler tanner It's like the closest thing there is to a magic pill lifting weights It has huge impacts on all of your biomarkers even like your the telomeres and like this deep cellular stuff in your in your genes Like it's huge Testosterone, uh, you know lowers estrogen raises testosterone um I I have a neck injury from I was 21 22 years old Doing jujitsu and I got thrown and it wrenched my neck and tore a muscle Somewhere above my shoulder blade. I think it's the rhomboid muscle That thing will bother me and ache and and pain and I'm laying in bed and I have to take hot showers to stretch it But when I've gone to the gym for a month or two and I'm doing various lifts that strengthen my back and my neck And my shoulders The pain goes away. The other muscles become strong enough to to make up for the support lost by that one muscle that's giving me pain Uh, you it fasting is another way to feel like a superhero Man, if you can make a week long fast your energy, you only need four or five hours of sleep There's lots of things out there, but the worst thing a guy can do for himself is to do nothing The minute you've done you do nothing, but just bitch you've lost And just go with the flow one of our guys, uh, I had on the other week on the show richard grandin talks about he says, uh I don't know. I think he made it up, but I've heard him say it and it's only Only dead fish go with the flow. Yep. Yep. And it's the man you got to work on You got to work on and for me Sorry, it's a little worm in this room here. Um Not even strong enough to get out of shirt. I gotta get back to the gym myself here. Um for me what I find is that um You if you're not going forward At all points You're losing.  It's money. It's women.  It's Something different travel and being independent and other things But the minute that you're just awake and you're just Here for the sake of being here You're done the years the the days will melt to months to years and before you know it You're 100 pounds overweight melting into a couch at 68 wishing you'd done more Do isn't where the this is where the utility and it's gotten a lot of heat over the years But I still think it's a really good, uh analogies. It's the red pill The blue pill and the red pill are you going to wake up and and you know Open your eyes to the way the world is or you have blue pill sheep or like you mentioned a zombie earlier with chicks on tinder Yeah, I mean that's how that's how a lot of people men and women end up they're zombies They they eventually melt into a couch with cheetos and whatever cocoa puffs and whatever the hell Well, you you can be red pill But still like you're awake to the possibilities and the realities Doesn't mean you do anything about it though and and that's why I never tell guys don't date I've never said don't date. I've never said date I've never said hire or don't hire a professional or do or don't do this Uh, I'll never tell people what to do. I'll just tell you that if you're not going out there and getting it Getting it at the gym getting it at work getting it at your hobbies getting it with friends getting it with something What are you doing? Where are you going? What is important to you? What is your drive? You know, it's easy to to wake up on a saturday and and I've been guilty of this I'm not saying that like I'm immune to this.   Then enjoy your video game and then at lunchtime instead of going down and getting a pizza and in a burger Go get some sushi.  You're full Calories are not that hard, but you're getting the protein to rebuild that muscle. There's different things you can look at But just changing a meal by just adding that hour the rest of your day is the same But you're moving in a direction where in a month three months four months five months You're the you may be the same weight, but you've added 20 pounds of muscle and remove 20 pounds or fat or 10 pounds or whatever But the thing is it's not even the speed in which you go at it It's just that you're doing it and you're getting positive results out of it And then if it takes you a year or two What was every do everybody doing before pre lockdown from the bug, right? Yeah, here. We are two years later. Are are you jacked? Are you richer? Are you Are you any better than you were before and if the answer is no There's two years gone. You got you know 60 50 40 whatever years left And it's all on you too. It's every day is your responsibility every every hour every minute Yeah, very few people can really blame The outside for their lack of success very few people can It's usually the lack of willpower and the lack of motivation and the lack of just doing it And if I'm a big fan of david goggins If you haven't read david goggins book, uh, you can't hurt me Here's a guy that with zero training. I mean he was in the military, but he was also overweight by quite a bit Is this the guy who yells a lot? I like this guy. I think he curses a lot and yells a lot See my instagram. I I don't think he he yells, um, but I'm gonna be thinking of someone else hang on but his whole thing is that um He was overweight and he ran an ultramarathon and he's like I was peeing blood Oh, I love this guy. I know this guy on instagram. Yeah, you know He's like I was being blood and I passed out and I I had ripped the skin off of my feet and people are like Are you mad and he's like I just didn't want to give up and and he I think he's uh, ran an ultramarathon on three broken toes and ran 200 Like There's no no Yeah, david goggins is a monster But he but see that photo that you've got right there of him Uh on the right where he's in the white with the where he's overweight there The big picture You look at that. Okay. He ran an ultramarathon at the big guy weight Wow, and he was peeing blood and he gave himself a rabdo and all these other problems But but he still ran an ultramarathon. Why will power 100 percent? I'm just not gonna stop I'm just not gonna stop and so For men the important thing at the end takeaway that I want them to have is Whether you're chasing money whether you're chasing women whether you're chasing muscle whether you're chasing health Whatever you're chasing just don't stop Maybe someday you realize I don't want to chase this anymore, but make that your decision Not the decision of somebody else Make every decision that you do yours And and if you do that if you like right right now my goal my birthday is in october My goal is to have a six pack again on my 50th birthday I've got Not many months left to do it. I mean i'm 40 you're 49. Yeah.  I don't make your life a lot easier. Um, so by my 50th birthday. I want a six pack I have four months. I can do it if I fail It's because I didn't do it not because the world held me back Not because somebody tied me down and stuffed cheeseburgers in my throat. It's up to me That's the way guys need to go get it in life and Looking back if I had this information in this news and I knew how women were back in my 20s I'd probably be 10 times as rich.  But if it doesn't happen Instead of looking at the saying the world held me back or oh, I I had a sick dog or Or the the wife wet left me instead of saying that saying it's my fault I I didn't do it because it's my fault now. What do I need to do to change that? And if that's the way that you Hit life and focus on it Women are going to find you attractive women are going to want to stick with you women are going to want to They want to women love free rides Women love, I mean everybody loves free ride guys like free rides If you're like, here's a million dollars most men would be like hell, yeah Guys I think those but if a woman can have a free ride Who's she gonna take a ride with? The guy that works at Taco Bell that's overweight by 60 pounds and has the horseshoe hair or that same guy That went out and got it for 10 years That maybe became a an electrical engineer or a welder or whatever then started his own business And then either got hair plugs or shaved his head and he hit the gym really hard You put those two guys right next to each other. One's a winner. One's a loser same guy Just different.  It's your win Yeah, that's what gives your life meaning the minute you're not chasing after small big medium goals You're done And and I don't always I don't always there are times where I feel like I haven't done enough But the only person I blame for that is myself and when you take that personal accountability for yourself Like I said read read David Goggins book. Uh, you can't can't hurt me. I think it's called Um, you know everything that every problem he had everything that went wrong in life everything. He failed it Everything that didn't work out for him.  You don't care what they do to you. You don't care what happens in life It all rests on you Yeah, I'm gonna shoot him an invite to 21 because I was looking at some of his videos on instagram about a month ago And I really like the ideas and the attitude. I kind of hear in his voice I'm gonna look more into maybe some invite. See what he's up to look into jaco as well Yeah, look into jaco and then you know, believe it or not Look into um This sounds a little silly, but if you look into uh, joe rogan Hmm started off as an actor on I forget the name of the show Um, it was back in the 80s Um a newscast radio. I think it was called You can find him in there and he was just a bit Like good looking, you know pretty good looking dude, but he just had a bit role He was like the engineer or something or other And he could have washed away like had a bit role. He was in nothing else. No other movies He could have been a flash in the pan making three grand an episode on a tv show But he got into comedy and he got into mma and he and now the guy's 50 what six seven He's jacked as hell He's one of the most important voices in the world for News and society, but he he that wasn't his goal His goal I think is I think is the biggest single audience of any podcast or creator in the world. Yeah 11 million per episode But but I I was there for his first podcast and it was him and a buddy goofing around Like their first one they were doing the filters where you can have snow coming from Like raining down on your screen on like whatever Video app they were using he did it as a joke But he took that joke and he made it into a Couple hundred million dollar business. Why did he get lucky? Now he chased after it How did he get into mma and and become a newscaster for mma? He chased it. How'd he become a great comedian? He chased it. Everything is moving forward for him at every moment So when you look at these guys as an example The only thing they didn't do is they never stopped They just kept pinching and driving and the minute you say that's it the world's against me It's unfair screw it. I'm out. You've lost you'll lose every time Yeah, persistence is huge man. I found this in my own life is building 21 studios Try not to mention I've done it since I was 17 years old and it's just the persistence year after year after year after year You know rain shine sun or snow whatever like ups and downs personal life the divorce You know that the hooker ex-wife like the economy like whatever Hooker ex-wife every time man Yeah, that was a dangerous couple years from my businessman. I think she was really She was very destructive. I think that she actually was trying to hurt the business I don't think I've ever talked about that publicly, but there were things she was really trying to Do harm to the company to 20 studios. She failed, but Thank you Girlfriends. Thanks, babe Super chat here. Let's see. It's complicated channel Thanks for the five dollars by the way Joker you've been a big inspiration for my channel if woman become aware of all the double standards in our society How much would actually change Don't even think about it self-awareness and double standards are Are pretty common thing in society today Don't you know This is the way I look at it I jumped on youtube as a goof, but I just kept putting out videos and putting out videos and putting out And I just spoke my mind the channel grew persistence Maybe people liked my content YouTube started demonetizing me. They haven't demonetized me as a channel, but Videos that you know, you can watch these trap music videos where they've got girls and little tiny bikinis They're monetized, but I put a thumbnail up with a girl in a bikini. That's demonetized You can't find like consistency or logic in it, right? You only started in 2019, right? Yeah. Yeah So as much as I'm a fence sitter and try to be middle of the road guy and not be offensive They'll still find a way. Well, I could blame it on youtube and say youtube screwing me life is unfair, which I have said before But but you can also move your business to locals You can also, you know, promote other things if that fails Have a backup plan for me. It's you know, I used to be a network engineer. I could go back into computers I could learn how to weld while i'm doing this So if this ever fell apart I could go be I don't know a welder or something Always plan your life ahead and in relation to that. Yeah, there's always going to be double standards There's double standards from the government from family From dating from there's always double standards and there's always a lack of accountability Don't ever expect anybody to wake up one day and go wow that related like You for example you being the viewer It wouldn't be great if a girlfriend woke up one day and said wow He was a great guy. He was kind. He took care of me I'm now 42 and overweight and I have two kids and nobody loves me. I wish I had stayed with x y z this guy you the viewer Um, maybe that'll happen. Maybe most likely it won't and even if it did happen.  It's saying I bring a lot to the table and I know it And when you know it it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks you know it and so When people do like a that's a piece of mine money can't buy men to actually have that and not fake it and feel it Is huge people would pay millions for that if they could billions And so the double standards are always going to exist and the lack of accountability is always going to exist but Don't count on it. It's don't think it's going to happen Because the same companies will come out two years.  We were we were just supporting women, but we never put down men men are great Men are awesome. You can be like They're gaslighting me like I remember in these movies doesn't matter. Then there's never an accountability. So don't expect it Don't don't expect anyone to do you any favors or to validate you or make you feel better Because eventually when you're in the right mindset you not only do you not need it Don't really want it. You don't want people to pander to you because when they do you'll be like shove off You know, I know the real you That mindset again, it makes you bulletproof and and more men need that the more it's not and it's not even not caring I care a lot I care a lot about my community Um, both online and somewhat in the real world, although I move so much. There's not much one I care about my family my dog anybody. I happen to be dating. I care a lot for those people But I care about myself first and foremost because i'm the only person that's going to be around till the day I die And that I can 100 count on No, if you get that mindset right the rest of the world's cotton candy. What's really important is what's in your life It sounds to me like philosophically your values are really well organized into a hierarchy Yourself number one, you know family community your goals Backwards myself number one Yeah, and two and three Like 90 percent of my value honestly, I mean this 90 percent of my value is in myself If my dog dies i'm i'm extremely sad But it doesn't alter my life my father just passed away a few months ago Very sad for it doesn't alter my life if my mother were to pass wouldn't alter my life Now will I alter my life to help them? Will I alter my finances to help them? Yes But in the main scheme of life You're the only one that will be there forever It's got to be 90 percent of your value and if you have a woman that is 10 percent of the value of your life Doesn't mean you treat her poorly.   I thought you were pretty cool Good luck to you and your course does not waiver one millimeter off of where you were going And it's and it's not selfish and so many people think well that's selfish yourself senator. No Would I run into a burning building to save somebody you bet your ass I would Even if they didn't appreciate it But that's because it's important to me to be able to protect or to help somebody lesser fortunate than I am So the the two for a lot of people I think is very hard to mix together because that you're either seen as as too giving and too altruistic and too Um weak or you're too selfish you're too centered and you're too and you're too strong-willed the two can work together But it's a balancing act and you can still give a lot to the community Habitat for humanity helping build homes. I've done that. They're I'm North Carolina Going into a food bank on a Saturday and and sorting potatoes Like rotten ones that are mashed up from good ones. I've done that for multiple hours at a food bank Now in the meantime, I'm listening to a a podcast or listening to News or something that will better me while I'm doing busy work, but that busy work helps the community You can put it all together But you've got to be 90 of your life better be for yourself And and better be for your betterment It just means that that 10 percent that you're giving is still a lot more Than other people give at all, you know, some of the best Philanthropists and people that oh, I give so much to the community. They really don't And so I don't know it's it's very hard to explain But you can give 90 percent to yourself and 10 percent to others And your 10 percent to others is more than 90 percent of other people's giving That makes sense Well, a lot of people like to use the government to gift other people So they don't even want to give themselves. They want to take from you and give to someone else It's like a very fake Third-party version of what you're saying by the way, are you familiar with iron rands objectivism and rational egoism that she promoted? Um, not really. I hate to say that I I don't listen to a lot of other people's thoughts on things No, a lot of what you described is very similar to her vision of moral philosophy You'd find interesting. I think she wrote a book called the virtue of selfishness for example What's her name again? iron rand Oh iron rand, okay Yeah, I heard of her Yeah, the whole yeah, she wrote several nonfiction books fiction too like out the shrug and the fountain head Okay, that's right. I'm familiar with those works. So Yeah, you'd find so her nonfiction just kind of described a lot of the philosophy that you see woven into the characters And yeah, a lot of what you described is very similar to her vision of moral philosophy Selfishness is a virtue and putting yourself first and all these things It doesn't mean, you know hurting other people or anything like that Right. I think you find interesting. I also want to take a step back to what we were talking about earlier So the collapse of america and stuff like that Do you think america is on and is this in relation to why you live your life the way you do? Do you think collapse is inevitable at this point and there's going to be a hard reset? Or it's still kind of a probability thing 50 80 percent whatever well, I mean You can look at it a couple different ways, you know What if the world economic forum succeeds? What if they do this great reset? What well the problem with that is with collapse? The financial markets if they fall like they have even if we went into a great depression It's not the end of the world. You'll still be able to eat You'll still have your house or your apartment things like that when people start getting Hungry, you know, we're nine your nine meals away from revolution at all times There's either two ways that this can go Um or maybe three ways number one they succeed Um, I don't think life would be too at the ground level down here.   Look at disney. They start looking at and say hey, you know something Uh Guys we got to start making money on these movies anymore Like if we can't keep borrowing because the fed's raising interest rates That's going to bring it back to the center where they're going to say oh netflix has this new series or disney is now a part, you know wanting Uh family whatever, you know programs again Um, it'll it'll pull back to the center. We move on Uh, and then like I think what would actually be the worst case scenario is Uh, we continue on the path where we are Um, where something happens in the next election or two to where people are cheated And the democrats keep pushing off to the crazy hard left Take away your rights take away. I mean The and and you know, I'm a kind of a liberal kind of guy, but the democrats have discussed taking away free speech online And having a czar of of the internet that can modify what is and isn't misinformation That's your first amendment going away. They're talking about removing your second amendment going away. They're talking about stacking the the um Supreme court until they have the most number of amendments Well, if you look at all these things what they're saying is we don't like the way things going So we're going to change the rules on you But of course benefit us if if they can do that and the elections Don't allow the country to self-correct Armageddon, that's where I think things go really bad really quick And I don't think china necessarily will impose Uh, yeah, they may do some you know hitting our our gas lines or our electric companies with cyber attacks and things like that But I think if we can't self-correct Because elections get kind of screwed up and the voice of the people aren't heard That's where things go south That's where I mean look what's happened in just you know 450 days of this administration Gas is doubled food prices through the roof Housing's gone up 20 30 percent like things if we continue along that path things will get really bad The babies are starving man. The baby formula is out dude. That's it. Just it You know, I I don't really talk about politics much, but you do have to talk about bad times And when when the biden administration is bragging how they're flying in 137 million Uh servings or whatever of a baby formula. Oh, hey, that's great. How did we get here in the first place? Yeah, no, oh the biden administration today was bragging about releasing the largest ever Um release of strategic oil. Hey, that's great. But why did you have to release the strategic oil in the first place? Like you have to start drilling down to the bottom of things so you know a cyber attack from china if that hit An electrical plant that's supplying new york city with electricity And let's say they just locked it up and they said no amount of money We're never going to give you your crap back 11 million people in new york city. They've got two to three days worth of food if the uh if the trucks If the trucks stop coming in For a week got 11 million hungry people or clean water or electricity and all the food rots What do you do? If you can't get in your car and drive out of the city to go eat There's 11 million people that are now You know fighting and killing each other over a can of beans It would be hurricane katrina in new york city is what it would be kind of no relief coming with no relief coming Yeah, you know, that's the way you need to look at it. And so wow, man If you look at the worst case scenario in many of these look what when they uh I was on the road when they were when I was driving across the country and they said, um Like the southeast lost a third of its or the middle Middle of the east coast whatever lost a third of its gas for a week. It doesn't sound like much I mean a third of one third of the country That's not much. It's one ninth of our man. I was passing gas stations. They're like we're out of gas We just don't know when we're getting it back Multiply that by the country That's it game over in a week or two people are starving Hit hit a water supply three four days game over where you're going to get clean water So Do you need to think like that? No. Am I thinking like that? Yes I want to have my water. I want to have my own food. I just want to be prepared and you know what sleep like a baby every night But yeah, you're hope you're hoping for the best by preparing for the worst Right, right. And so if you're an apartment in a big city That's two three days from starvation or a couple days away from and and you do get hit with something We've got tensions from russia. They cyber attack china They cyber attack they go to take taiwan and we try to intervene. They cyber attack It we're such a global and a national infrastructure If you don't have a plan one dude on a keyboard can hit a gas line or an electric company or water company That's it Well one dude can take out a quarter of the country and then they don't have to attack america It could guess what we've got lots of guns and guess what people will do.  I don't know skyrim or Elden ring or something on my computer based on my solar power while i'm drinking fresh ice water and In air conditioning, you know like life is easy Not everybody's not a not everybody's in that stage to do it But if it's important to you you better start moving in that direction because if we keep going in five or ten or 15 years That's it Yeah, it's it's a wild man I do whatever lets me sleep the best at night. That's what I do whatever if if they're i'm laying down night after night after night Worrying about something or thinking about something It's not to keep laying there worrying about it. It's okay. How am I going to make this a non-issue for me Yeah, for me that was land for me That's my own home that I don't owe anybody for for me That's growing my own food and canning my own food and solar power and well and like completely off grid And then if I never have to use it Who cares I'll go traveling around the world or whatever and I just have a property waiting for me when I get home And if you say I don't have enough money for that Hey, most of my life. I work two jobs two full-time jobs Make it happen if it's important enough to you yeah You mentioned something a minute ago.   I'll think of it in a minute I can talk for hours. I'll wear you down to where you don't even remember what I was talking about Yeah, oh, that's what I was thinking you made you're talking about the famine and people shooting each other for sure You said nine meals to uh, you know to revolution. That's you know, 72 hours. I've heard that too One of the things I've thought about that you mentioned the wf wef and all this, you know globalist crap I've thought that if they really do in these more hardcore conspiracy theories if they really do want to like Delete a lot of people Famine is by far the most effective way to do it people just automatically die You if you don't eat and you don't drink water you automatically die And the soviets knew this obviously in the chinese But this these are not genocides that most people are that familiar with they only hear about the nazis and stuff Right, right. I don't think that they're going to do it in one big blow if they do Because the people that are implementing this. I mean you look at uh, george soros. You look at uh, what's the knucklehead?  You will have nothing and you will enjoy it These people are like on death's door as it is now even if they're as alex dunes would say even if they're stealing, you know Swapping blood from a young to live longer and you know from yeah, look at look at who it Trump 80s or just about 80s. I think uh, biden 80s Pelosi 80s, you know, bernie sanders 80s like these people are on death's door anyway Are they really going to have the wherewithal to stick it through and starve all these people? I don't think so Um also on top of that Uh, I think they they want to feel good for trying to leave a better world behind after them Be and put their name in history. I mean these these are narcissists to the nth degree They want to be known as the person that saved the world. It ain't happen. It it's not happen Um and on top of that if you really do start, you know, elan musk had a very good uh discussion about this people don't realize it but How many hoops would you have to go through? To make a coffee maker and that's an easy one Just making a coffee maker boiling water to have it come up in To filter down through to make coffee. That's pretty easy But what about a toaster? And getting the voltage right so you don't burn the thing up or melt it But you can go to the store and get a ten dollar twelve dollar toaster or go to a A good will and get a one dollar toaster if you get rid of people and you get rid of companies and businesses and uh Life will be very very hard For everybody. Do you think these old narcissistic F heads that are in government or in these places of power Want the last years of their time on the planet to be rubbing sticks together from fires so they can heat their business? No No, and so I don't I don't think that part of it's going to be successful But my god, are they going to screw things up? Trying to get there and until they realize it fails look at Venezuela You know Look at some of these other countries. I mean, will they coming around lopping off heads and no Will they actually get to the point of starvation? No Because here's the truth. Do you think 320 million people are just going to sit at home twiddling their thumbs? Why they while they starve to death Or they're going to get together get some gasoline and and the people in maryland and Outside of washington dc. Do you think they're not going to go into those politicians and I mean There there there would be civil strife Yeah, there would be an overthrow So I worry less about that and I worry about messing with the elections To where the administration that's in now Says everybody just go to electric electric cars for everybody and you say okay in florida There was 9 000 electric cars for sale There's 21 million people even if they all wanted to go and even if they had the money There's not enough cars That is who's 50 grand laying around for electric car like you'd be kidding me But even if you did even if you did only nine nine thousand of them are getting them the other 21 million are getting nothing And so what what they're trying to do is speed things up to the point It's too fast They're getting ahead of themselves and it's like a car going 50 miles an hour And you hanging out the door and start running and then you let go of the car and you land You're going to tumble and scrape off all your skin because you're just rolling you you weren't running fast enough they're trying to stop hundreds of millions of gasoline cars and fossil fuels and everything in a in a blink of a couple of years We're going to go for a tumble We're going to get skinned up a lot of people are going to suffer food may become extremely expensive or hard to get And are you the person again that has a year worth of rice and beans? And you know canned soup and canned jars of peanut butter last you two years Do you have two years in your closet?  And it doesn't have to be these thousand dollar packages Most cans of spaghettios are good for two years and really it's probably good for two and a half or three If you make sure to boil it before you eat it. Do you have that backup? If the answer is no, that's on you. Do you have you know 40 50 gallons of water fresh water sitting around your house the answer is no that's on you And and if and if you don't worry about any of it and you say things will be fine Look at the great depression. Look at ww1 and ww2. Look at what Mao did. Look at what power pots did. Look what um Stalin did They all did it because well, it's for the good They all thought they were doing the right thing Yeah, now in the starvation killing the birds and and Because of the low because I mean When you look at all of it And I'm not really really up on a lot of that history much anymore When you look at all of them all of them thought they were doing the right thing for the world and society Same thing. They're doing now They're just they're just dumb because you got a 90 year politician that thinks they know how crops grow And how fertilizer is used and how to milk like you can't no one knows everything about everything I think part of the problem though with the dictators like you mentioned is the average person has seen a lot of it Like Hitler is an easy one But they've been like cartoonized in so many movies That they think that like oh this guy was just he thought he was some evil villain Because that's how he's portrayed in in his own mind that wasn't the case none of them They all think they're like heroes Even if they're slaughtering millions of people like that's for some greater cause some greater good However, they're rationalizing it in their head and their cold Even the tree huggers today, you know everybody that's the extinction rebellion and everything Okay, let's no more fossil fuels. All right. What if it stopped tomorrow? Do you have a garden? Do you have your own place? Are you self-sufficient 100%? Are you do you have a fireplace with hordes of wood that you can burn during the winter time?  We're in such an easy society But it's easy to say It's easy to say well, I want these things and I want well, it's because it's easy Everybody that's all in on socialism Have how many of them have gone to Venezuela zero?   Well, they just did it wrong. Okay Experiment yeah, they're eating they're eating zebras out of the zoom and done Venezuela You know and and everybody that's ever done socialism or communism has just done it wrong But we'll do it right But the people that are protesting the people that are marching the people that are Fighting back against the government if the government actually gets overthrown. Guess who's the first people to get? Ended the people that helped you overthrow the government because they don't want you to do it again So they get they want to keep the sheep the true believers. They want to yeah You know, we know the true believers are the ones that get axed first because if If you help yeah So if you help overthrow the government and the government gets replaced they say okay Oh, you got that helped us you're gone because we don't want you to do it again The soviet's notorious for this the soviets when they took power I think the Leninists or whatever the true believers in communism They didn't really want them this one power first one's gone Yeah, and only the top top top everybody thinks they're going to be in the top of the revolution and and they're going to Benefit while everybody else suffers. No, no, you think we got an oligarchy now wait until there's only 20 people at the top instead of 2000 or 20,000 or two million or whatever But but again I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Do I think any of this is really going to happen? No I'm 99.9% sure That the wf isn't going to work and the next elections will swing back to a moderate Reasonable course of action and we'll find some middle ground But that 0.01 percent or 0.1 percent Is enough that I lose sleep at night It is enough that I worry about it. I I see the the food shortages um that happened during the lockdowns now now If you look at some of the financial experts and the fuel experts and the food experts And the fertilizer experts and you listen to the farmers and a farmer says 250 a gallon of diesel what I was paying before it'll be six bucks or seven bucks when we harvest in october That alone will raise the price of food 60 And I'm paying three times for the fertilizer And the diesel to transport that food from the farm to your table is going to be twice or three times when you start adding That all up you say okay that loaf of bread that was two dollars Will be eight dollars Yeah, and and even if you have the money for it There's a lot of people out there that'll say, you know, I'll cancel everything. I'll let my car go back to the bank I'll be let laid on my mortgage. I'll just buy food and I'll hoard it You might have all the money in world. It doesn't mean you're gonna have food um So that 1% can keep me Awake at night.  I'm only 33 But I even have enough awareness at 33 that like america used to not be like this And seeing it drift so first slowly and then more fat rapidly and now like hyper speed Like you're talking about earlier like falling off the side of a car I think you have a significantly bigger perspective on that. I remember the 90s as a kid You were an adult Like and that was pre 9 11 pre, you know, ultra surveillance state all the the woke crap Like there was a little bit of pc stuff, I guess in tv, but not much really It was very mild compared to now. Yeah So, I mean just I was a teen during the booming 80s. It's a good time to be alive um, but I was also A young gish child 6789 Uh in the 70s. I remember the oil crunch I remember cars going from, you know, 67 chevel with a 396 Cubic engine with a six-pack carburetor on it that would go zero to 60 and you know Pretty fast time. Although they mostly went sideways when you stomped on the gas, but You know, you had these amazing muscle cars and they all got to these weak Go look at it in 1985 camaro I mean Because of the gas crunch where where people were in lines for gasoline We may go back there Yeah, the price may keep going and and here's the thing that That people don't think about when it's like that It's going to be your diesel trucks, you know, there's a lot less localized Farmers markets and food suppliers than they used to be in the 70s The next time we hit it a lot of our food comes from overseas So what happens when the delivery of bananas and apples don't show up and there's no carrots and you You better have a game plan And if you don't I think you're gonna I think I don't think starvation type stuff I'm not that pessimistic about it But you better realize that you you may not be able to pay your electric bill And you may not make your car payment because you're putting it all into food And you'll be lucky to get whatever food there is Could it get to that point? It could There's a whole spectrum of like really serious risks and even that there's just, you know Some of these are really small percentage of happening But it can still happen and even if it doesn't there's a whole range of crap Leading up to that. That's not as bad.   I mean, what are the odds that we go through another bug Where we have to do mail-in voting? Yeah, I don't know about you but those in power if they want to keep power bad enough They usually look for ways to cheat Yep, you know, I thought this monkeypox was was going to be the next Uh next version of that but apparently it doesn't transmit well enough through the air to scare everybody. Um But will they come up with the the next round? Yeah, they might You know, what if it's flu season and they decide to tell everybody it's actually another variation of of over it or whatever They could do it. Would it surprise me if they did? No, would it surprise me if they decide? Well, we got to do mail-in voting and oh look at that's taking a six days to count again And I don't know what percentage was or wasn't or how it affected it or didn't it But there's 60 of people both Democrats and Republicans that say, you know, we've have some doubts about this Well, what is the next one the same administration? Stays in but yet more people vote than there are Voting age You're gonna look at some battles.  I don't know any of these answers, but I've I've seen enough in history To know that you either a understand history or b. Don't trust your government. You can't do both Well, I know history decent enough to understand What Maoism what Marxism what? you know this some of these gender theories coming in and and indoctrinating kids and Opening borders to try to get certain voting demographics in like you can see it all It's just you think it do you worry about it enough to lose sleep and do something about it If the answer is yes, it doesn't mean you can do something about it in time But it it means you can you know, it maybe pass on that next graphics card for your gaming rig and go out and buy A year to two is worth a long term food And the worst-case scenario if you have 365 cans of soup that cost you three bucks a pop $1,000 worth of soup in your closet You know what those 450 calories a day you'll lose a lot of weight But probably enough to keep you alive if you got a couple jars of peanut butter to go with it Yeah, and and if it ends up going bad or whatever donate it take it as a tax write-off I don't you know, I don't I don't think about the ramifications to society Or what it means or what could I worry about the ramifications to me? Everybody else can shoot each other over those loaves of bread. I want to be in my own house with my own electric and water and Good luck to everybody Yeah, in a way, it's a very American attitude, you know, bootstrap and taking care of yourself looking out for yourself Can't blame me and I don't think the globe look look what happens just from one small country Ukraine And the fertilizer being lost from Ukraine We only get three and a half percent of our oil from Russia. We only got three and a half percent a year ago So look at the prices from just three and a half percent of the oil being cut off from Russia Right look at the prices of the fertilizer and the grain and these are only two countries Now what happens if a country the size of China goes? Or China gets in a conflict with Australia that gets in conflict with Or what if they take over Taiwan and you can't even buy I mean the simplest this little, you know Little light that I have right here this thing It's got a Chinese or a taiwan chip in it Yeah, won't be able to what if China just takes over taiwan says no more chips What happens to our f-15s and our fighting jets and Our emperor emperor biden said they would step in with the military, right? And then they walked back to on that like a day later. Well, biden said it but his administration went No, I can't yeah, we're not gonna do that But what if we lose the manufacturing chips? No what happens when a semi during the summer when I had my bus and it broke down There was a graveyard of trucks. I put a youtube shorts up on it There was a graveyard of 40 or 50 trucks there and I asked one of the guys like what's going on with all the trucks here This is a graveyard or a repair shop joking around with them They said, uh, well, it's a repair shop But people don't realize like a sensor for a transmission or a sensor for an o2 sensor It's got a chip in it. It was a chip shortage chip shortage No sensor no sensor no truckie no drivey For you know, so you've got a hundred thousand dollar big rig sitting there waiting on a three dollar computer chip Well, what if they just cut them off? No cars no trucks no repairs No tv our battleship gets broken and you need new electricity. It's gone This is where I think a big Way to encapsulate what you're saying is it's so much of civilization that we take for granted is really fragile Like a three a three dollar chip from taiwan that gets hung up on a boat off of, uh, california It holds up $60,000 car The car and then the truck and then the bananas and the apples and then the diapers and the toilet paper like Yeah, it's fragile men and I've been stocking up I've been into prepping for a long time and when cobit hit finally I felt kind of redeemed Um, I've now like doubled down since coveted even getting more and more stuff But even I only have a few months worth of food So I'm still nowhere near what you're doing and like some like ellie hall's But you know, it's land and like, you know years worth of food Yeah, then You may I I went so far as like I travel a lot and and I don't have a way to take Tons of cans of food and I'm getting ready to go to Tennessee in three weeks I do not want to be moving 400 pounds in food One of the simplest things I did and and I got a lot of crap for it But hey when you're in emergency emergency is emergency You can get a big tub of workout protein that I've drank for years when I work out Um, it's not many calories like 150 calories But you can get your 30 grams or 40 grams of protein per day that you need Two or three of those containers six months worth of protein You can get the mass fuel or you can get oats or you can get rice or you can get Beans that beans are great because they have protein and carbohydrate get those dried throw them in the freezer For a couple of days to kill the germs and then put them in a ziplock sealed up bag Or a vacuum bag You got three to five and a matter of like white rice if you freeze it to kill what's in it and put it in a vacuum seal bag 25 years Wow, you get a couple of 10 pound bags or massive ass bags of rice You've got enough food for carbohydrates You know, and then you get some pro mass protein shakes or uh, or you're near a local farm Where you grow your own chickens or whatever for eggs and you got enough protein Life can suck but you can still live I'm just planning on if it gets to the point of starvation. Is it extreme. Yeah. Is it probably in the long run stupid? Yeah, do I sleep like a baby every night because of it? Yeah That's what matters to me a thousand dollar investment in food that will last five years I sleep great I'll at least sleep great for five years. So you know, it just depends on how What bothers you first for some guys out there that what's the most important thing to for them in the world is it Is that they don't have any friends And that's what's on their mind most then go get some friends and fix that Or that they're going to war Like if you're in Ukraine, that's a pretty big worry right now. Okay, you're your biggest worry and the way to fix that is staying alive Just depends on where you are in life for me. Everything's pretty good So I can go a little crazy and worry about worst worst worst case scenarios That's why I do want to I want to shift the conversation back to some more manager topics. I had listed out before we started getting going So just I want to clarify real quick What is your history because a lot of people have considered you like a migtail youtuber within the manager sphere What is your history with migtail and do you consider yourself currently migtail? I think every guy in I think every guy in the red pill community if if they're If they're smart would be a guy going their own way. I think every guy in the world should be going his own way Now what degree do you take that to? Well, you could be like me Which is getting your own place and your own food and your own water and you you can cut yourself out of society It doesn't mean you do but it gives you the ability Or you could be a married guy with a family and kids and whatever and be a guy going your own way And pulling the family along behind you But you're still doing what's right for you and the family as a leader I think in in many ways that's going your own way I think in general men are best when they're going their own way and doing what's best for them And whoever else is with them My father did his own thing if my father wanted to quit his job and get a different job Which he didn't but He would have set everything up and he would have come home and he would have said to my mom Uh, here's the options I have Here's what I'm thinking about doing and they'd have a discussion and my mom would put in her two cents and then whatever my dad decided He'd do He's kind of doing his own thing. He's going his way and what he feels best My mom would trust him enough to make that right decision for the family That's a guy going his own way He taught me how to mow the lawn at 12. That's him saying I want you to mow the lawn I don't want to mow the lawn anymore. You're gonna learn at 12 He's the rock, right? I think every guy should be going his own way And then once you're going your own way if you say I want to date somebody Okay, but you're gonna do it your way not her way Not giving up your life for her not giving up your direction for her You're gonna do it your way If you say I want to get married you're gonna do it your way So I I look at it as I don't see it as like the men and guys going their own way as a As a group. It's a philosophy. It's just a way of thinking You seem to be Focusing it more on self leadership than abandonment, right? A lot of people mick tug gets criticized It's almost like an abandonment philosophy. Yours seems much more focused on leading your own life 100 well, but they can be both I mean you're talking to me that says I'm gonna lead my life and I do whatever's best If if if you're doing the same thing, okay, like I've never said that I don't date I said a lot of guys don't want to deal with a headache A lot of guys don't think it's worth it. A lot of guys don't mess with it I've never said that I don't date. I also never talk about dating who the hell cares what I'm doing Like don't judge your life based on me if I want to go out and pay a professional 300 bucks It's my decision. Is that right for you? Maybe but it doesn't matter what I do if I decide to date a Cute 24 year old that I don't know has nothing to bring to the table other than being cute and fun and sexy Fine, but that should have no no Bearing on how you live your life. That's why I don't talk about well. I do this and I do this and I do this who cares um and The only thing you should do when you're going your own way is do what's best for you That's going your own way If that means getting married with kids Then go your own way that direction if it means abandoning everybody and do it that way you can have you can do it all I can get my property And I can build my own house and the only people I'll owe for the government Is my tax on my land but my electric and my water and my septic and my food and everything else that can be completely Uh cut off from society. I can build an electric fence And be completely self-sufficient 100 hermit done.     Do you make in life as a hundred percent? It can be if you want or it doesn't have to be Going your own way means going Your own way If you want to cut off society do it you want to be a part of society, but be selfish do it you want to live in an apartment and Be downtown and you're you're selfish with your time and and who you pay great But as long as you're doing it for yourself and not for anybody else The minute I go to the gym for a girl the minute that I move across the country to to hang out with a woman The minute I get married just so I can have a woman in my life That's not going your way.   That's the way I see it and if that means cutting yourself off then cut yourself off If that means dating and Being on a dating app and and and jumping through hoops Go ahead as long as you're doing it for you and for the right reasons not validation not to Feel important not to feel lonely. Those are all bad reasons for doing it Yeah, a lot of it ends up being social pressure what people the sheep That's what I think the sheep phenomenon would say the sheep will like they're just responding to each other Maybe some other people pulling strings, but a lot of it's a social pressure. I have to do this I have to do that You know, I remember when I was younger in 2009. I had a friend who was older He was about my age now and it was like early 30s He got married to a girl ended up blowing up in his face five years later Had a kid and everything too, but he actually told me he's like I'm like, why are you getting married?  Yeah, it's a lost cause I remember even in Poland the girls were their follower accounts on instagram I would meet in Poland. There were like 100 200 The social media use there even was different even though they had the same access to it They just didn't care about it as much. It was interesting. It was less about validation and more about staying in contact with friends Yeah It's another Another man is for question to bring up. We talked about it a little bit, but the johnny depp amber hurt stuff The me poo hashtag me poo Well, I didn't watch a lot of it But I stayed up to date on the biggest parts in the end johnny depp won She is I think appealing it now or he's gonna try to appeal She's probably gonna blow up in her face Likely likely because the 2 million that she was awarded was because of what johnny depp's attorney said Not what johnny depp said and they were never able to link johnny depp actually saying it to the attorney So on appeal that could actually get overturned and she might have to pay 10 million instead of 8 million So her net worth will be negative 10 million or something Yeah, I I think uh, she's probably gonna lose the appeal because appeals usually come from jury problem judge problem evidence problem. There wasn't any of that so Her odds of appealing it just because you don't like the answer you were given during the trial Very it's very weak sauce. I don't think you'll have much luck in that Do you think um, it was you know, a lot of people are saying in the mandatory even a lot of fathers rights guys Men's rights guys polylum eric carol friends of mine. They're saying this is a win for men Johnny depp. I mean do you are you in that same page too? Yeah, I mean I like johnny depp as an actor. I do not like him as a human being um, you know, he's Spoke pretty disparagingly about uh, republicans in general Talk about killing killing president trump me about that Right and and you know, if I were to come out and joke about that with biden or somebody does they're torn up by every Media outlet but when madonna and johnny depp does nothing to see here move along folks That's the one-sided society we're in right now um So I'm not You know, I'm not all in on johnny depp as a person as an actor. I like him I I touched on it on my videos and I touched on it on my content because What it does is it starts poking another hole in the also me move it as I call it because if you call it the other one That'll get you demonetized on youtube. I found out um And why it's important is because it shows that even if a man has evidence Even if a man has proof It's going to cost him millions of dollars to get his day in court just to be heard Where all a woman woman does is have to say when this happened to me And even without evidence without a court without law without anything It'll spread like wildfire on social media and the guy's fired The guy's unpersoned the guy can't get hired someplace else That's a problem. That's a problem And so this was kind of a A bubble burst when it comes to that stuff. Now, does that mean that the next woman that comes forward won't be heard? No, of course not. She'll be listened to Does it mean that the guy will probably automatically be cancelled? Yeah But at least this is a start to the conversation and it was viewed by so many people That now when you have a reference and you go, hey look what happened to johnny depp I mean, you know, there are instances or you can say look what happened to tara reed when she accused joe biden and they kind of went We're just gonna sweep this under the carpet. Nothing to see here folks Well, when you can bring these big profile cases up and say, oh you care about the the also me What happened with uh, uh, biden they hushed that up. How come look what happened to johnny depp Now you start having these big cases you can bring about and start poking some holes in it Is the end is at the end of it? No Is it going to still happen? Yes. Will people men still be unpersoned? Yes Is the guy that has his wife slammer head into a door jam herself And then calls the cops and says he did it. Is he going to jail and not getting his day in court? Yep It's still going to happen But at least the conversation starting and in this day and age when you can at least start the conversation starting And you've got a few instances you can point to We've got something It's not enough It's not even a great start, but it's something And Right now that's all you can ask for and as a man. That's why I tell guys look It used to be women had to vet men for red flags because he could be a creep. Oh, he could He could force her into something, you know a little snuggle struggle. She didn't want back at the apartment and and he could physically Advance himself on her unwanted I tell men now That not only is that still a risk for women, but If men do not vet these women for red flags and see if they're bpd or on the spectrum or Or you know regret all of a sudden regret is is now equated to Well, I I I said yes at the time But I didn't really want to because I felt I would make him feel bad.   So, um I I don't think anything's changed because of it I think guys still really need to be super super careful about who they interact with and being alone And again, I think a lot of guys say You know what for the risk versus reward The reward's not enough. There's plenty of material on the computer today and I got 18 gallons of jurgen lotion in the closet I'll knock the monkey off myself and we'll call it a day And I don't have the other hand headaches and fears and other things I need to worry about I think a lot of men are still in that position and and I don't blame them for so this was a start It's by no means the end Yeah, I think you're right though. It's a start and it's not a great start But it's a start of moving the conversation in the right direction Some people were saying even that, you know, me poo basically ended Uh, also to whatever But at least though it's just At least though it's opening I mean you had a guy win a high-profile defamation case You know, but it took it took an enormous amount of People think it just took money in the comments are saying that and it didn't just take them a lot of money with an attorney It took them a lot of fame and popularity Johnny Depp was very very popular among a broad spectrum of people. I like him as an actor Right. I know he had said some things about trump and republicans, whatever But you know, I grew up enjoying Johnny Depp in movies and stuff public enemies or what you felt kind of me You know, obviously a part of the caribbean and stuff. I had a problem with him as a man But at least he had enough fame and popularity Enough he had enough power as as a as an adult and as a man to win this battle Even I think in pr which really pissed off a lot of the mainstream media and stuff It wasn't some nobody or even some like right-wing republican, whatever that they could just slander Look how they're still framing it though. There's I mean the washington post and and buzz Buzzfeed and all these other crap-tastic slag rags. We're trying. We're trying. Yeah. Yeah, but the point is they're still doing it Yeah, so so let's Let's be honest with this Don jr, right trump's kid Don jr gets an accusation made against him Is is is the also me is the me poo over or do they go full hog against him? We know the answer to that I like the full hog mask. Not dead. It's only dead for one side of the political eye like it's always been It's used as a weapon when it's it's Can be it's used as a shield when it can be and it's ignored when it's on the wrong side of the eye So, you know, as long as we have this two-tiered justice system It's never going to go away. It'll just be selectively used as always It doesn't help the guy on the ground But it is a case where we can at least it's a little a little lick of the red pill for some of the People out there saying they're getting a taste of what the rest of us have seen and known for a long time It it helps it doesn't hurt, but I don't think it's the end of anything It'll still be Wielded as a cudgel against one side of the political aisle and ignored on the other And that's I think what you I think you encapsulated You encapsulated it perfectly though. It's a lick of the red pill for mainstream Yeah, I mean these are issues that the mana sphere has been familiar with for decades But you know the mainstream just got a taste of it. Yeah, and how many normies watch that case and went Wow, man. She's That is not a good person and so then maybe when their friend says something Or maybe uh when they hear something else they'll go Well, we'll see. I'm not sure about that That's better than well, I mean he obviously did it. Why would a woman falsely say, okay? You know, at least we now have a little bit more of a Of a maybe that's some pause and it's going to take a lot more of these cases and a lot more instances Until it really is the end of it But yeah, I'm kind of it's a start. I'm kind of I'm kind of wondering about what'll happen eventually with will smith and his wife Like I don't see that. I don't think it's going to be a johnny debt moment, but Everything everything that happens will be his fault He's he's toxic. He's aggressive Even if she drove him to it, even if she said before the or after the show, I'm glad you did that that really None of that'll come out. She's she's already going to put it on him And and this is what this is what Weak people do it's what some women will do. It's it's what some men will do There they'll take no accountability And uh, and they'll use it to prop themselves up push somebody else down He crabs in a bucket, you know anytime anytime they can they're going to drag other people down just to try to elevate themselves And if you don't think how bad it can happen look at I must have watched I don't know 100 hours of the debt case I watched virtually all of it the only time I didn't it was some of the The remote recorded interviews because I found that pretty boring and none of it really was that I watched almost all of it Not because I care about johnny debt Because I had a woman that lied about me and lied to me about what she was doing behind my back and Boy, she was she was a saint until she turned into one hell of a sinner And I wanted to see if I could see those same manipulations in amber herd and boy, could you The tears well the attempted tears but the tears and the lying and the being overly dramatic and And what did she do the minute she walked out of the course out of the courts? This is why strongmen get away with so much bitch We just saw all your evidence and it was your stories against everybody else and the police and his friends and and uh His bodyguards and photos and make we saw the proof And she still came out and said this is strongmen have such an advantage even though he got cancelled from everything And I still had roles and hollywood didn't want to talk to him anymore But I had lori el stuff, but he's the winner out of this We saw it we saw it so Manipulation at its finest man and a lot of guys say that hey this happened to me man At least I didn't go to jail or at least I got away from it or at least I didn't lose everything But what do you do when you see somebody flipped like that that went from the angel that you said I do to So the woman that would bury you under the court with a dry eye and a smile on her face same woman And and a lot of guys say man, I watch out for this stuff. How did I get? That that's This it's not going anywhere. It's here to stay. I think it's just going to be wielded selectively Yeah, one of our speakers michael foster. He's a christian pastor, but he's like pretty based pretty red pill That's a by longshot, but he calls it. It's a multi-generational problem Feminism and woke and all the stuff particularly feminism And I think it's a really good way to put it It's like this can't be fixed even with the nice wind like johnny depth stuff It's going to take decades to fix generations And you know, it's a hard reset and it'd be a soft reset like a lot of a lot of pain I I think what's going to happen is when I was young young kid in the 70s You know the the 80s metal bands were big And so we all wore the jean jackets. We all had the mullets and long hair, you know metallica ripped jeans metallica patches And and those that was like the class of A valedictorian like the you know, just everyday kids dressed like that Why why the torn jeans? Why the the denim? Why the pushback? That's because 70s was bell bottoms and plaid and pastel colors. It was pushback Then the 90s came around and it went into grunge And uh, which is you know tied a little bit But metal metal was kind of made fun of a little bit And then you get to the 2000s and kind of the hip hop generation and electronic dance music and the guys walking around in the In the ripped jeans and the metallica were laughed at and the people that were walking around in the grunge were laughed at Even though you might have still listened to nuvana What happened is the next generation came out and they looked back at the other ones and they say whatever you're representing We want to separate ourselves away from that like we see you guys and we think you're ridiculous I think what's happening with generation z today Is they're seeing that boys can be girls and girls can be boys in the pink hair in the You know cairns screaming about everything in the Breakdowns over pronouns and all this other stuff and they're like you guys are nuts You're very uncool because every generation feels like that about the one before you're very uncool You're problematic. We're gonna make fun of you.  What's the uh the syndrome where uh where they want attention because of their quote sick child This is where the mothers are coming out and saying oh my kids trans too and this Johnny wants to be a girl and girls the boy And they're gonna do this and all the classmates and all the people around these poor kids are gonna say They're nuts. They're crazy. I want to get as far away from this as I can and the way they get away from that is by Swinging the pendulum back And instead of saying hey, you know what I want to be a part of this and I'm I'm in line with these loonies and everything else They're gonna fight back by just doing their own thing. I think that's it Now if you guys are wondering why you just keep going on and he's not Jumping anymore. He had to step away for a second. So welcome to the better bachelor show um, that's the good news though is that uh for those of you that are are worried or Freaking out about the future as much black pill as I talk about Being able to feed yourself and everything else. I think things are going to be pushed back in the other direction and everything's going to be fine So long as we can vote in the people That we want to represent us and we don't get into this weird oligarchy slash Uniparty stuff as long as we can stay away from that. I think we'll be okay Um, let's see. Let me look at the comments here. I haven't even been keeping up with the comments That's why see this is nice because when I'm a guest I don't have to look at the comments and be in charge of anything I can just uh munchausen. That's it. Thank you mustang chris. Yeah munchausen by proxy. Yeah, the munch. That's what that's what it is today It's it's the the munchausen You know these these mothers are trying to virtue signal By saying that they're boys or girls and their girls are boys and look at me.  I'm back. I had to take an emergency bathroom break. Sorry about that, man No worries, man. If you get I'm used to talking for a long time.  I want to know Where do you want to see the man's sphere go? It's a community that's at least 25 years deep.  I mean, I I talk and I speak my mind and if people want to listen they want to listen if they want to disagree They want to I don't I don't care where the man's sphere goes if if If I keep doing videos every day and I I've Gotten less and less subscribers every month. I've gotten less views month after month There's two ways you can look at it.  They're not paying attention to me anymore Or you could say hey people don't need to listen to me anymore. Maybe they've gotten the message Maybe they're like, yeah, I got it man. I don't need to hear anymore from you I'm with you now. I'm going to go off and do my own thing um, I think if the man's sphere Ended up, uh, if everybody came into man's sphere learned what they needed to learn got their life on track And let a happy life and never came back I'm fine with guys just sticking their toe in learning and leaving and being happy the rest of their lives I don't care if the man's sphere goes away And the same was actually a common position that the pickup artist had that back in the day It was kind of like get in learn what you need to learn and get out Yep, and if and if guys do that here then awesome and great And maybe that's the best of all scenarios and then those guys Uh, when they have kids or the next generation growing growing up just it's just assumed that women are not going to probably marry you And maybe you know, we had the blue pill maybe growing up the default will be red pill And and that's that's a good thing. And then if the man's sphere goes away I think that's fine. I think that's great In the opposite, uh, if it continues to grow, uh instead of me having a million views per video and I only ended up getting 50 000 views per video But other content creators also get 50 000 and 50 000 whatever resonates with them And and they get something out of it great You know, I don't so For me, I don't care where it goes. Um, if it goes away because everybody knows it and it's kind of the default I'm fine with it if it continues to grow And and young men keep getting the message and as I I age out of it and I go do something else on my hermit land and you've got guys, um You've got guys carrying on that mantle that are younger or maybe more hip or do a better video than I do But it still resonates Then and it continues to grow without me fine with that too like I I don't have I don't I don't I don't care where it goes just so long as men have the information they need Men know they're important men Chase their own passions Men don't rely on other people for their happiness um Realize that they're going to be ostracized and be told they're the bad ones in society and that it's all your bad You bad bad men's fault for everything being bad and understand when everything hits rock bottom And they come crawling back around for strong men capable men intelligent men men that can build and fix and that are strong Then it'll be up to you if you want to Say all right I guess you can come back and worship me for the being the awesome man that I am or if you tell him to shove off and kick dirt Because you treated me bad. We'll we'll see where it goes. Um, but My message my message for men do what's right for you no matter what it is Don't listen to anybody else. Don't trust or believe anybody else has your back like you do And then where the mana sphere goes with that message and what men take from it It is what it is I do like um, you kind of basically said that you know if the mana sphere was no longer needed like it was unnecessary I think that would be pretty cool if the culture got there That to me would be a sign of a healthy culture that healed from a toxic period of a couple decades Because obviously the mana sphere used to not exist And i'm sure men in the 1920s didn't need to be taught how to be men There the amount of feminism the head was minuscule compared to what we see And masculinity was normal and all these things Well, they had speakeasies and pool halls and cigar lounges and they had all these Barber shops golf courses. They had these places where they they they'd talk about their wives or their kids or their families or their problems or Their work issues and every time men start a community like that It's amazing men's only golf course women want in women want in women want in women women get in And then the guys naturally are gonna say well, here's a dirty joke. I heard it work the other day Oh, how dare you how dare you how dare you throwing my own sound clip there How dare you This is not acceptable talk and men say well We want a place where we can talk and we can be Whatever and so men find a new spot and then women want in and men. Well, this is a place where Men have found women will come in I mean, let me let me interject here. This is a tough question directly related to what you're saying What do you think about women now getting involved in the man's sphere much more heavily these past A year and a half two years I mean in different ways each channel kind of does it differently We even do like a women's conference, but that that's a woman talking to women And stuff it's it's different than what the rest of the man's sphere is doing I think genuinely there are women that want men to be strong and women to be allowed to be women and There are women like that, but then there are also chameleons and grifters And the problem is look, I mean, we know there's there's guys in the men's community that are grifters So certainly there's going to be women and you're going to tell me that a woman that's Speaking about men's issues But she's wearing a super thin t-shirt where nipples are poking out and you can see four inches of cleavage You're going to tell me she's she's got men's best interest in mind or Is she sexualizing herself and telling men what they want to hear so she gets lots of views and makes money off them? I can't tell the difference between the two So I can't tell you who's legit and who's not If if if you resonate with them and and you find their message to be credible Go ahead and listen to them. But you never ask a fish how to fish you ask a fisherman Yeah, it