That's not a bad feeling, Elson. Oh, no, it's just Modesta, 103.3. He's saying go into pot, which is a duet he did with Merle Hager a few years back. And he finished, like, let's finish with some gospel.  That's funny. You know, that's the one thing I've never, never really liked about the audience at the Simply Bluegrass Festival in San Francisco, is they would have Amy Lou Harris play. She has some really good recent songs, but then at the end, she would end off with gospel music and the crowds would clear out like the Red Sea.  Like literally two songs, just don't feel like, oh, I don't have to listen to this. Gospel music's got a place, man. It's got like a thing. People should appreciate it. Oh, yeah. That's where a lot of our best music has its roots. Some of the best, I think some of the best Elvis stuff is gospel stuff. The best Elvis stuff is the one. Oh, speaking of Elvis. And then going back to Corey Feldman. You saw it. He got hitched at the same Elvis Temple church chapel that I did. Oh, is that right? Yeah. He's the same guy. Yeah. Let me see if I can find this. Someone, someone alerted my wife to it. Oh, this chapel. That's amazing. The two quarries and the one Roger. There is only one Roger. I spelled his name wrong. I forgot the E. Oh, you're so nice putting these little spaces between these for me. I try. I try to be nice. I know no one else likes that. For me, it's just I go if I have OCD about anything, it's no breaks and things.  I have the weirdest OCDs on the road again. I have an OCD about locking doors like and not being sure if they're locked. Like, I'll lock it. And then you like keep double checking it. Yeah, I've literally walked back a quarter of a mile just to make sure. Oh, I locked the door and I've been everywhere, man. Oh, that's a lucky star. If you find a lucky star on on YouTube, he's saying the original version.  You know, when auctioneers do that, that auction chant. Oh, yeah, right. That's how he sings that song. It's awesome. Oh, no, not not Corey. I'm sorry, it was Sheila Booth. Oh, yeah, I'll put it anyway. Yeah, thankfully, you're still in there since it's Sheila Booth. He married Mia Gough. Yeah, and he's even in the same Elvis outfit. She's a she's that model European lady who was in that movie with him. That's so weird. But I didn't like the please vote commercial. All right. We're about ready. Oh, for some reason, I thought we were waiting for Len and then I realized that no, because Len and Rich were both in Slack talking with us. I kind of felt that way when we first started to like where's Len? Yeah. And then I have you've got control control. OK, hiding. All right. Here we go. Quality content thrives through the support of those who benefit from its creation. If you gain value from the Daily Tech News show, consider joining others like me who provide support. Learn how to help at Daily Tech News show dot com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, October 19th, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt joining me on Wednesdays. My co-host Scott Johnson in the house. How you, Scott? I love Wednesdays. I'm happy. I'm good. I had a brief touch of the flu yesterday. But I think because I got my flu shot, it happened. So here I am feeling better, ready to transfer it to you through this microphone contraption. That's how it works, right? Yeah, you had a grip. The flu at a rough one, but doing great today. And I'm really thrilled to be here. We got all kinds of cool stuff today. Yeah, no, we're going to talk about. Yeah, no, there it goes. OK, those of you like have that in on your drinking game bingo card. We are going to talk about ink keyboards. There's a lot of rumors flying around about there. And there's some history behind it as well. We also have the official announcement from Apple that they're doing something. Yahoo says it sent a letter to the U.S. Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, seeking more transparency around national security orders. I bet I bet they would like to explain more. The Wall Street Journal reports Google has signed up CBS for its rumored YouTube TV service, supposedly called Unplugged. Now here are some more top stories. Facebook is testing new features for U.S. users starting Wednesday. Facebook pages will let you order food, say from Delivery.com or Slice.com, set an appointment using my time, get a professional services quote from folks like Plumbers, buy tickets through Ticketmaster at Eventbrite. And the reason Facebook is doing all this, all without leaving Facebook. You don't click on Eventbrite and go out to Eventbrite site. You just stay within Facebook, which is the way Facebook would like it. Another new feature called Recommendations will suggest itself when it sees you're asking friends for recommendations. It'll say, hey, would you like to post a card to your friend's timeline asking for recommendations on things to do in the city you're talking about? So it's good for travel or you're just trying to find the best burrito in your town or something like that. And it'll have a map. So the recommendations will show up on a map for you. The Events button in Facebook app is also now going to show a page with event recommendations and friends RSVPs. So it'll be easier to find stuff to do. If any of these features do well in the United States, they may roll out worldwide. What do you think, Johnson? Oh, well, Merritt, here's my thinking. It was only a matter of time before we saw a public manifestation of Facebook's answer to all of these smart bot chat utility technologies, machine learning kinds of things. And we already knew they were working on all kinds of stuff like that. And this is also a national or a natural extension of, hey, you can read this New York Times article without leaving Facebook. It's just sort of here. It's not embedded like traditional HTML, but it's just kind of part of the page. And and I don't know where that's out currently and how that's working in terms of its success. But this feels like kind of a piece of that. The only thing they really added is some interactivity and some functionality. Twitter's done some of this in the past, so it doesn't surprise me. And I actually think it's a good thing. I don't know if I'm in Facebook often enough looking for recommendations or trying to get professional services quotes or things for this to affect me very much. But if it's intuitive and smart and my mom just starts typing, wonder if we should see a movie with her little friends group she has. And it spits back showtimes where they all live. I don't see how that's a bad thing. Seems good. Yeah, I I'm less concerned with the machine learning aspect of like, oh, it looks like you're asking people for stuff. Let's make a card. That seems helpful. I am more concerned with this idea that Facebook continues to want to keep you inside. I don't like that because it's not cross compatible. I don't mind that Facebook wants to make it easier for you to fly into Plummer.  This isn't this isn't something that encourages other businesses to exist on an open platform and encourages business to exist within the Facebook platform. And I'm ringing that old bell again. I know I go on and on about this, but I don't like the siloed aspect of things I would like that pendulum to swing back to an open platform where everybody can, you know, post their flag and compete and then the best person wins, not Facebook owning all of the interactions because what they're doing here is building up data on your purchase activities. Well, that's a good point. I hadn't really considered that. I agree with you. I have in the past when we've had issues like this, my my bigger my bigger brain wants to say, sure, but this is like a chance for for them to catch up to play the only way they know how to play in their own garden at the game that Apple and Microsoft and Google to a great extent are trying to dominate in order to stake their claim in. So me as a consumer, the idea of me being able to talk to a friend on Facebook and have it recommend the movie just like it might in Aloe or something else is kind of convenient because I can just order right there. And to me, that's no different than that. I think the big difference is nobody's using Aloe at least comparatively and everyone uses Facebook. So there's a we're the biggest kid on the block and we're going to keep you even more than we already are. That is kind of a problem. Well, and it causes a problem because you see the silos competing. Like I want movie tickets to be suggested for me when I'm in I message, but my friend uses Facebook. So now what do we do? Right? Like it makes people pick sides rather than having a cross platform system. It's like, hey, it doesn't matter where you're typing your message. That Fandango suggestion is just going to pop up. Isn't that great? Everybody can use whatever they want. Yeah, it'd be nice if it was more of an embedded. I know it's embedded by practicality, but it'd be nice if it was more of an embedded traditional embed, something that was like, here's a little strip of code.  And then that makes sense from a it sort of just skips Facebook and goes straight to the vendor. And then that's still the vendor.  And if you went to their site or did it through Facebook or did it through any other web interface, it's the same. But we're not talking about a universal embed code here. We're talking about a very specific partnership with conjoined code that means that that isn't possible. So that is a bit of a bummer. As a user, though, as I'm trying to get into their heads, I'll bet people embrace this while people like you and me are sort of skeptical about it. Yeah. Well, because they have so many people using Facebook. So that's true. Google apps for work is now called G Suite. That's the name of my upcoming rap album, by the way. Also, I should probably talk to my lawyer sweet sweet. It is got a couple of updates today. And, you know, people seem to I don't know what they think of it. Docs will now guess when you're typing an action item and pop a suggestion to assign it. So that's kind of interesting. Files will now show badges when they have action items attached to them. And Google forums will now suggest multiple choice responses based on the question you type. Are we seeing a pattern here with all the stuff we've talked about today? And finally, G Suite productivity apps will integrate with Slack conversations. Clicking the plus button in Slack will let you create or import a Google Drive file. Okay. So that last one, yes. Huge, big one. The docs thing, I can see why it's useful. It's not something that I necessarily need to use regularly. But wow, Google forms. Oh, yeah. Because I make these surveys up twice a year for DTNS. I use Google forms for other things like FSL tonight. And just having it guess pre-population on percentages or the example they use in the TechCrunch article is t-shirt sizes. Heck yeah. No, I love that. Yeah. How do you... I mean, so inbox another Google product, which I use, I use inbox on mobile and on desktop over standard email clients and third-party clients. And so one of the things it does or touts that it does is when I get an email from somebody like you, it presents me a three or four potential answers based on a couple of things. One, it's reading the natural language and trying to give me some good suggestions, but also it's looking at past history, I assume, about the kinds of things I would answer because some of the answers include words and names that only I would reply to you with or to people I've talked to, like the word frog pants will show up in a reply or something like that. That's what this is. Now, the problem is I rarely use it on inbox because it's almost never enough. It's either too terse and it sounds like I'm not really paying attention or it's too wordy or it's the wrong thing. This needs to be proven to me that forms can sort of auto-populate in a reasonable way. I understand if it's a very complex new question with 10 possible answers, I'm not probably going to get the answers I want, but if it's yes, no, maybe undecided, sure, I guess that's going to save us some time. So I guess. Yeah. No, I think it's cool. And people today seem to be very excited talking about this, the people who use G Suite, I guess. The United States FCC announced today has reached a settlement with T-Mobile USA over slowing the connections of the top 3% of its customers by data usage. Anybody with around 17 gigabytes a month was getting slowed down, according to the Verge article. The FCC cited T-Mobile for marketing plans as unlimited. The FCC enforcement bureau chief Travis LeBlanc said, consumers should not have to guess whether so-called unlimited data plans contain key restrictions like speed constraints, data caps, and other material limitations. So they're not getting dinged for throttling. They're getting dinged for calling it unlimited and not making it clear that if you're in the upper 3%, you might get throttled. T-Mobile is going to pay $35.5 million to a consumer benefit program that will offer affected customers 4 gigabytes of additional mobile data and 20% discounts on phone accessories. They'll also pay $7.5 million to the U.S. Treasury and give $5 million worth of services and equipment to U.S. schools. So all told, they're going to spend $48 million settling this with the FCC. AT&T was under similar accusations and there was talk of $100 million fine last year. That just sort of faded away. Yeah, I was going to ask about that case. I never heard there was any resolution to it. It was a proposed fine of $100 million. Congress in December started to hit up the FCC going, why haven't you fined them? They said, well, it was a proposed fine. We didn't actually issue the fine, so we're not going to collect it till we issue it and haven't heard anything about it since. So if that thing is still in some sort of active pre-litigation, then this could inform that maybe? I don't know. This is an actual judgment in this case. This is they're saying, this is your fine and this is how you need to pay it and this is where it's going to go. So maybe that will inform what happens with AT&T because AT&T clearly publicly anyway was the much larger target for people's complaints about unlimited and grandfathering and all that. Yeah. Well, and there's some confusion. T-Mobile was very clear on certain parts of unlimited like, hey, there were unlimited plans that said, after you hit this very clear definition, you'll be throttled down to two G speeds for the rest of the month. That's not what they're in trouble for. What they're in trouble for was an unlimited plan that said it's unlimited. And then people were throttled if they were in the top 3% of users, which is different. So there's two different plans out there. And if you're thinking of the one that was very clear that said, hey, it's unlimited, but if you read down, it says it's unlimited up to a certain point. That is not what the FCC, if I understand this right, that is not what the FCC is digging in for. It was a different unlimited marketing where they didn't say anything about the limits. Well, poo-poo to them, they should pay it. Apple, I have no opinion really, honestly. It's a lot of money. I know that. And it's good for the schools. That's my stance. Apple sent out media invites like seconds before we started recording today to an event in its Cupertino campus. This is on Thursday, October 27th. It starts at 10 a.m. Pacific, which is pretty typical. The invite says hello again and features the top half of an Apple logo filled with some sort of reddish creepy smoke. Probably the rumored Mac event, I think. Do you think that's throwing shade at Samsung? No. I hadn't thought of it till you said it. Now I want it to be. Yeah. So this, Ina Freed yesterday had reported that October 27th would be the day and before her story was even 24 hours old, Apple went out and sent out the invites. They kind of have to. It's next week. But it's going to be on Thursday because keep in mind, Apple's earnings call is on Tuesday. They do like to do these things earlier in the week, but they're probably waiting till their earnings call is done before they do the announcement this time, rather than have them happen on the same day or consecutive days. We assume we are going to get new MacBook Pros. The broken MacBook Pro, to my right, really hopes that that's true. Well, also they're playing off the whole hello language, which is how the Mac was introduced with it saying hello. And I swear they've had other events, either pre Tim Cook or otherwise, where hello again was the. So unless I'm remembering that wrong, that feels like an old slogan, but it has to be Mac related. Of course it is. I think so. And my guess, if I'm going to go further down this road of parsing and guessing, is that it's, we know it's been a long time since we revised this line, but we were taking our time because we've reinvented the Mac from the ground up and we think you're going to love it. I was hoping you'd add that last part. What if, though, here's a quick prediction. What if it's a lava lamp and that's what that load of. The iLamp. Oh, man. I mean, that could be in there. Yeah. It'll work like Echoes and stuff. You just say stuff to it. All right. So Echo is a Chinese company that bought Visio recently, is very big in China as far as providing video services and affordable, but premium quality electronics. Their deal is, we'll sell you high end electronics at an affordable price because we'll get you into our ecosystem and pay for our services. So they're making a big splash here in the U.S. Now that they own Visio, they've opened a research and development campus that they bought partially from Yahoo in San Jose. And today, they decided it was a good idea to just introduce everything.  All right. Two phones, a $399 5.5 inch La Pro 3 Android phone with a Snapdragon 821 processor for a gigs of RAM and 64 gigs of storage plus a 16 megapixel camera in gray or gold metal and then a cheaper $249, but also 5.5 inch La S3 phone with a Snapdragon 652 and 32 gigabytes of storage. That one's available in gray, rose gold, gold, and black. If you're in front. Rose gold and gold. That's the Pro 3 and the S3, if you're right. Correct. La Pro 3 or the Pro 3, if you're French. La Pro 3. Anyway, four 4K TVs were announced. The 85 inch UMAX 85 with Dolby Vision and HDR 10, 64 gigabytes of storage, four gigs of RAM for $5,000 and then the X43 Pro, which is 43 inches, the X55, 55 inches, the X65, 65 inches, all those have 4K and all these TVs have Harman Kardon audio built in. All right, those look nice but expensive. The Explorer VR headset, this goes with the Echo phones, has a USB-C connector, gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer and a proximity sensor. All right, that's interesting only from the point of view that a proximity sensor is kind of a big deal for a portable solution like this. So I'm actually curious about that. A couple of concept, I don't want to say devices, vehicles, concept vehicles, an Android-powered superbike was showed off. This is not ready for sale yet but it has hydraulic brakes, side laser system, an alarm, fingerprint scanner so nobody can ride your bike if you don't want them to. The battery in it is charged by the bike's hub and it can assist you in going up to 30 miles per hour but it is a bicycle, not a motorcycle. When they say side laser, I assume that's like sensors to tell how close you are to traffic or something. Yeah. It's like lasers to take out your closest competitor next year.  Le CSEE, Le C Pro Concept Autonomous Car will be unveiled at CES in January. They also talked about the Le C which they have showed off previously. The Le C was in an accident on its way from LA and the Le C Pro was delayed on its way back from London where it was being used by Michael Bay as part of the new Transformers movie. So they didn't have either car actually available to try out. Wow. Michael Bay, what's he? So there's a transformer who's now a self-driving autonomous vehicle. Yes. That's the big story here. You know what? This is burying the lead. The lead is there's a transformer made out of some Le Carr, Le Pro. Right. A Le Echo partners with Faraday Future on making their cars. So it's basically a Faraday Future car that's going to be an A transformer. Yeah. That's the big news. That's the headline folks. Finally, an EUI ecosystem for video. So this is how they make their money, right? They didn't have a whole lot of details about this, but they basically said we're going to have a video system and we'll have content from awesomenessTV and Lionsgate and MGM and Showtime and A&E and Sling. But Sling is a service that includes things like A&E. So I'm curious how that whole thing is going to work, but they didn't give us any details. That's really weird. Also, I mean, China more and more has ownership in lots of media companies. So making those deals, striking those deals is much easier than it used to be. Good point, because one thing that I didn't put in my notes here is that Echo owns a movie studio that they are working on building up here in LA and they are a co-producer on the Great Wall starring Matt Damon. Oh my goodness. Are you ready for our Chinese-only future one day? I mean products? I don't mean... I'm not trying to be xenophobic here, but you know, we're going to have a lot of Chinese stuff on our list. It's not going to be Chinese-only. Any more that it was... Remember, it was going to be... Everything was going to be Japanese and then, you know, turns out... Now everything we have is some of the stuff. My phone's still American, but it's not really. It was made over there. Now it's just a matter of me going with the brand that was... Right. That used to be what everyone said about Japan, too. That's true. They did. And then Taiwan and then... Yeah, yeah. It just always, it always moves around because then as soon as China's economy starts to get too big to continue to grow, then everybody's going to move to India. Then when India gets too big, then everybody's going to move to African countries. And then it's going to come back to the United States. So who knows? I don't know. Well, to get back to a very USA-based thing. Yeah. All of this except the concept bike and the concept cars launch on lemal.com, November 2nd. Lemal, really. All right. NFL coach Bill Belichick in the news. And by the way, NFL still made in the USA. All right.  Bill Belichick told reporters he is, quote, done with tablets. They didn't say if any of the language is any more saucier than that. But anyway, it will go back to paper pictures after suffering one too many technical problems with his Microsoft surface. Belichick says it is a personal decision saying, quote, there isn't enough consistency in the performance of the tablets. I just can't take it anymore, unquote. He added, sometimes something happens and it's hard to be fixed. And first of all, you have to find out what the problem is. It could be one of 15 different things. Does this sound familiar to users of any other piece of technology? I would, I would argue we all have these problems. Microsoft told Business Insider the surface still has a positive reception from members of the NFL. Yeah. Because Microsoft is giving these surfaces, they're paying the NFL for teams to use the surface. But the coaches are not required to use them. Right. Also, some of these guys are some salty old dudes have been in the NFL forever. They got ways of doing stuff. It's a little fangled maybe. I'm not, I don't want to be an agist here or whatever, but they're focused on football, man. They don't need to worry about why does Windows 10 lock up when I do this one thing? Dude. I totally get it, but at the same time, I hope this doesn't reflect poorly on the sales of the device because people love their surfaces. It's a nice. I have a Surface Pro that I enjoy very much, but it and everything else, including Apple products, lock up sometimes and don't want to do what you want. And you can't figure out why. And then you get very frustrated. And if I, who am a technology person who's doing this on purpose, get frustrated, I can't imagine somebody who's like, the photos worked fine.  And then you have 15 pro like, I totally get this. It basically, this proves a long running and I'm going to ring another bell here, a long running point. I've had that technology is not generally ready for people. Like we push it out there because it can do something, but it's not really ready for people who aren't willing to put up with troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is the, is the great burden on people who want to adopt technology. And if you're not somebody who's in the mind of like, I don't mind troubleshooting a little, then you don't want to do this. Yeah. Also, maybe those tablets made it easier for the New England Patriots to cheat. You didn't. You didn't just get political. I'm kidding. Keep your email. You're going all deflate gate on me now. I couldn't help it. You just keep your emails to yourselves. It was a joke. He doesn't even know who the Patriots are, folks. Hang, hang back, hang back. It's all right. Thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. As I said on Daily Tech Headlines, because we had that same story there, that that was one of the top subreddit stories today for us. All right. Last week, Australia's Sonder keyboard told 9 to 5 Mac. It had held discussions with Apple related to its dynamic keyboard technology. They've gotten quiet since then. They're not really commenting anymore. But Sonder does have a keyboard on its website that they display. It uses e-ink technology to offer dynamic customizable e-ink keys. You can actually pre-order it right now for $199. They promise it's going to launch by the end of the year. They told 9 to 5 Mac last week that they were currently closing B2B procurement contracts with three third-party laptop companies to integrate the technology. Sonder is part of Foxconn's incubator program. Well, that's interesting, because Foxconn assembles products for Apple. And Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that it has sources saying that Apple definitely wants to make e-ink keys a standard feature on MacBooks in 2018. This is confusing, some people. We're not talking about the MacBooks that are probably going to be announced next week. We're talking about two years down the road. They would put these e-ink keyboards into MacBooks. Tim Cook supposedly discussed the MacBook plans with heads of Foxconn and Sonder on October 11th in China. Now, not the first e-ink keyboard. As we said, Sonder is pre-ordered, doing pre-order sales for one right now. There have been others in the past. These programmable keyboards. Scott, you seem really fascinated by this. I'm not just fascinated. I would really like something like this to come to market. And I remember hearing about something similar not too many years ago. Maybe it was 2014 or so, and there was some keyboards making the rounds. We had a discussion in Slack about some of the things Apple would need to do, or anyone would need to do, to make these the best possible looking solution. And that is they can't have these greasy-looking transparent keycaps on them. They need to have a nice matte finish touch, maybe like the way the Kindle actually feels. I don't know how you protect that raw screen from a lot of finger activity, but there's a few things like that. And if anyone can do it, probably Apple and their design team could, and they probably won't do it until it makes financial sense to do it. So I really like the idea of it, but it sure got me going back in my head about all the weird keyboards in the past. There was the Optimus keyboard, you and I talked about a little bit earlier, which was LEDs, and they would light up, be different colors. In fact, LED keyboards are still common in gaming, but it's usually just sort of a backlight solution, and they can fluctuate and create patterns and all of this. But that keyboard specifically had rows of keys that you could assign functions to, and it was great for gaming, but you could use it to assign this keys for my browser, this keys for Microsoft Word, and they would be a little icon of the word, icon for Word, or an icon for an Adobe application or something. And you could use the keyboard more in context with what you were using. Same goes for when you're using an actual application, and that application has special needs or special functions. You could assign those keys. I loved the idea, but it was prohibitively expensive and kind of a beast, and never really took off in a mainstream way. If they've gotten to a place where they can make this less expensive and backlight this for the notebooks and everything else, without it looking like cheap, crummy plastic, they may be onto something, and that's how I want to type. I love the idea of having customizable keys, depending on my use case. Yeah, I love this concept. It's all about the execution. Like you say, the keys themselves have to not get scuffed up and cloudy and dirty, and that's a fixable problem, but it has to be fixed. So you probably want some kind of durable glass, but hey, guess who is really conversant with Gorilla Glass these days? Foxconn and Apple. I think that the software is the part where it gets trickiest for me, which is who gets to control what programs get to use it when. Because if this is only in a handful of programs, it's not going to be that useful for me. If you give me control over it, that I can customize it, that's cool. I don't want to have to customize it all the time. Like there needs to be a balance between letting developers have open access to this sort of thing, getting the developers incentivized to program it in and take advantage of it when it makes sense, and then not letting it become a security problem itself. Yeah, I'm convinced that they do it like iOS replaceable keyboard. In terms of when Apple does something like this, and you've got kind of a default, that sort of one size fits all, and if applications, or if somebody just wants to change it up and say, what if every key was a little piece of fruit, and you just remembered that the G key is a pineapple or whatever, which makes no sense, but you know what I mean? Like they can be as crazy as they want to be, and we've seen it with iOS keyboards. People choose to have these wacky keyboards. Some of them are just gift makers. Some of them are actual keyboards that they speed up the way you type, like SwiftKey and others, and others are just kind of variations of the existing one, but if they give them that kind of access and you as a user can say, well, I want to use that or I don't, you have to sort of opt in to using a new keyboard. And for application-specific stuff, like Adobe, I'll bet gets all over this, especially if this sells well, the notebooks do well, because then you're going to see these pop up on Windows PCs and who knows where else. I could see Adobe doing this, because Adobe depends on so many functions that are kind of weird and only known by the few of us who hack away that thing every day.  So that's the use case for me. Now, as far as whether that's worth it to them or not, I think this just sounds like something Apple would like. Like from a design perspective, even if it doesn't take off to me, it's like pressure sensitivity on the front of the phones now. It's like, it's not that needed. You could do kind of a click and hold situation for most of what that does. But it's cool and it's neat and it's in there and it's hard wired and it feels designed to do that. And despite its lack of use cases is just a nice evolution for the hardware. So that's why I think they're interested, not necessarily looking at the long tail of having some kind of second app store, a third app store for just selling keyboard mods. Yeah, one of the use cases that I would like it for, which is very edge, is the occasional need to find one of those alternate keyboard items. Like I want the Euro sign. I want the pound sign and having to remember the keyboard shortcut to get there. If there was an easy way, let's say like you hold down the alt button for three seconds and it'll pop up all the alternate keys for you instead of having to remember the key combo. That can be pretty handy and it can teach you the key combo then. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. The other one for me, I use a Waycom tablet over here. And while the tablet itself has a bunch of function buttons on it so I can use one to hold the page or to switch from brush to eraser or whatever, there are many times I have to reach over here to the left and I have to hit B or V for select or a bunch of keys that do, I know what the shortcuts are, but they're keys on a keyboard that are kind of far from me and once in a while hit end by accident. Oh shoot, I've messed it up. Let's go undo and then I'll hit the right key the next time. Would be cool as I could just say, I only need like four keys for the other, for the keyboard functions. Let's just divide my keyboard into four quadrants and any key I hit in that quadrant is the right one. Oh yeah, exactly. You can start to do stuff like that. Yeah. And then we'll be kicking back, telling tales. And our day, you just had to remember the W, A, S, and D were the arrows. Exactly. I mean even gamers could reassign those keys speaking of WASD, but the more I talk about this, I realize I'm now talking about yet another edge case and I don't know what that... Well, but I think there's enough edge cases as long as you make it adaptable and customizable, it could be really useful for a lot of people in a lot of different ways. That's why you want an open platform. That's why I'm worried they are going to do it like iOS where the keyboards sort of are default, except in cases when they're not, I would much rather them do the Android situation where it's like, hey, I'm going to have this keyboard be my default keyboard and each piece of software can ask me if it's okay to put in their own layout and I can say yes or no. That's definitely... I feel like they have to do that on this platform. They can get away with what they're doing on iOS because that's the platform, but in a lot of ways, the genie's out of the bottle on the Mac and it has been for too long for them to get too weird. I know they've made tries to do that with the App Store and a few other things, but I think they'd have to. So if we see this and they don't do that, I would be shocked or it gets patched in because people are like, well, I can't use it because it's not customizable enough or something. Well, now that you've made a Christina Aguilera reference, we'll need to move on. In yesterday's show, Alison Sheridan, sometimes co-host on this show and host of Nocella Cast Mac podcast at podfeat.com, said, you said cash in circulation grew 42% from 2007 to 2012. I found that unbelievable. I inferred, you inferred it. I inferred from what you said that it was the amount of currency when, in fact, it's the value of that currency. That is an important distinction. From the Federal Reserve Board, you can see that the value went up from 42% between 2007 and 2012. That got me to thinking, should we remove inflation? From the inflation calculator, I found inflation went up 10.7% cumulatively over that time. I think we can subtract those two's numbers, giving us an adjusted value increase of around 31%, which is crazy. I would have bet a million dollars it had gone down. I thought maybe it's only in the last three years it's gone down. Nope, value of US currency in circulation went up 22% from 2012 to 2015 with inflation of 4.9%. So still a 17% growth shocking. Is that Tom?  So forgive me. But is it because there's less paper money being handed around? So the stuff that's in circulation is just worth more because- No. No. It's people continuing to use cash. And as Allison said, I would have thought maybe it was just prices rising. Apparently no. It's just people still using cash. All right. See, I told you it was dumb. Yeah. No, it's not a dumb question. It is a good question. And there may be something to what you're saying, but it's not just that. The point is that people are still using cash. It's not necessarily rising by 42%, but it's not going away. It's not just the rise in the value of stuff. On Wayne wrote, I got the latest Android with the 6P. I did get the latest Android with the 6P and the Nexus 6V. But I found Bluetooth Android handling and small annoying bugs with auto brightness and other things laying around without ever being fixed. In contrast, the Samsung Galaxy phones provide me with waterproof, good camera, battery, always on display. And I consider the software to be very polished. Sorry if I sound like a new Samsung fanboy. But I do think people tend to undermine manufacturer software and overblow the pure Google experience. And one of the reasons I included his email was because in these dark days for Samsung, they need a cheerleader like on Wayne out there fighting for them. And of course, this is in response to us talking about the Google Pixel phone, which I have yet to get my hands on and maybe doesn't have all these bugs that the Nexus's did. Who knows? Point. Also, I saw yesterday somebody put an animated GIF, a short video, a GIF based on the video of somebody who made their Halloween costume this year. And it was four Galaxy Note 7 boxes, like retail boxes, the little black boxes that come in, strapped around the guy.  And when he would blow on it, all of them would smoke. Like they would just emit smoke out of these sevens. So- He ain't flying anywhere for Halloween. Yeah. To me, that seems like there's a problem with that in a lot of ways. But just so it's out there, apparently Halloween is still a time for us to make fun of. Yeah.  One of the things we were talking about yesterday with Patrick Beja was whether the rumor will prove to be true. And I guess we'll find out next week if the new MacBooks only have USB-C and Thunderbolt ports. And we talked about not having MagSafe. And of course, we both, Patrick and I agreed, like someone will come out with an adapter that turns USB-C into MagSafe. Well, guess what? It's already there because there is one USB-C-powered Mac out there. Robbie Pence, aka TrueFire underscore, said just in case you didn't see this MagSafe USB-C cable yet, it's not the only offering. And Griffin has one that will adapt your USB-C power cord to MagSafe. So that is probably about to get a little more popular. Yeah. And in this case, it's an actual full-blown cable, too. So you're not talking about adapting it. You can just swap cables out. I was telling you this morning totally briefly here, but I'm all for us embracing faster, better, cooler standards. And if Apple does this, this certainly wouldn't be the first time this year, even, that they've decided to remove something we all think is hallowed ground. But it's this weird transition. I'm not saying Apple should determine that market, but it's kind of the way things end up going anyway. And we're now all using USB-3 when we thought it was going to be hard to get it all. Well, now we've got it. Now we're being asked to change something else. It's going to be fine, everybody. Do you remember changing to USB? Yeah. Do you remember Apple resisting USB port? Yeah, big time. They want to be using those serial cables forever. All of this has happened before. Yeah, it'll all happen again. Finally, Ian and Sonny Scotland discovered Domino's in the UK has started using Facebook's Messenger bot. He just needs to message the word pizza to the bot, and his favorite pizza will be delivered, of course, after he sets up the preferences on the website the first time.  So he did send us an email this afternoon and said, I'm happy to report that the process went surprisingly smoothly to order. The bot gave me an opportunity to check my details, order, address, et cetera, through a nice conversational interface. I did this as it was my first time using the service, though there was an option to go straight to the order. The only worry I had was when the online tracking tool seemed to think that I had received my pizza before it actually arrived. And I was wondering which of my neighbors was enjoying a free pizza, but it turned out the delivery driver had gone to my neighbor due to not being able to see the house numbers easily from the road. And he doesn't say this, but I assume what that means is he went to the neighbor and said, where's this number? And the guy pointed in the right direction and he got his pizza. Says all in all, I was impressed at how easily and friendly the whole process was. Well, that's great. Listen, pizza bots, it's the first wave. That's what I want most is how we get the food better. It starts with pizza bots. I actually remember the first time I ordered pizza on the web. It was in the 90s. Want to say it was Papa John's? Not, it could have been pizza. But I think it was Papa John's. And I remember that feeling of like, I just ordered a pizza without talking to a person. Is it really going to show up? And it did. Yeah, totally. And we do it all the time now. And we get dominos a lot. Oh, yeah.  And it's great. So next, next step, please let me. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Good stuff. I don't know what he was going to say, but the internet just cut off. Let me what? Oh, did I cut out? Yeah, you paused for a second. Oh, now I don't remember. I think I may have said something about cover me in pizza and let me die alone. No, I don't know. Okay. Yeah, sure. And I agreed wholeheartedly when I thought maybe what you were going to say was buffering. That is it for this episode of the Daily Tech News Show. Thank you, Scott Johnson. I hope you never die. No, thanks. 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I don't know if we can do a third thing earlier, but... Hey, big cheers for the Cleveland fans. I know we have many of them. Do they win this time? They are winning right now in the middle of the game. They were up 3-0 in the series. They lost yesterday to the Blue Jays, but they're back ahead. So we may have very happy Rich from Lovely Cleveland and Len Peralta is very soon. Yeah. How many... Is it a seven game? Yeah, they have to win four. Good... It's... If you have to have the brown, you may as well have some other good news. I do want to add to the... I was just thinking about the Alison Sheridan's thing about inflation and the rise in the use of dollars. They could also be a large portion of that, maybe its use outside of the US as... You know, I'm wondering if there would be a similar boost in like euros, like people in different parts of the world using US-denominated currency. Wasn't it 42% rise in the US though? Let me see where she's... I don't remember for sure. It just said the value went up, so I wasn't sure if that meant... Cash and circulation grew 42% from 2007 to 2012. I think it's within the US, but it could be wrong about that. So I know... Sorry. What's on Showbot? Showbot leading the pack is cover me in pizza. They keep doing this when I'm on. Cover me in pizza. Better not shout, better not cry, better not cuss. I'm telling you why Facebook knows what you're going to buy. Side lasers. Let echo my Vizio. This one's good. I like bio-cows. Join the ecosystem. I'm going to vote for that one. Belchick takes the air out of the surface. Aloe from the other side. There's an X in Cristina Aguilar reference. G-suite and special sauce. T-vaguely mobile. I'm going to tour into that name. G-suite and special sauce. Yes, it's our wrap duo. I'm looking for a keyboard or E-ink, Apple. Ink, what do you think's E-ink? Where's my boy special sauce at? Which one of us is which, though? Is E-ink Fakita board dumb? Not sure what that is. Keyboard dumb, yeah. Keyboard dumb. So it's working hard. It's working hard. Yeah. Apple sundars off on keyboards. Sundars off. Apple sundar. Yeah, you got it. Cover me in pizza still at the pack with nine. Cover me in pizza. The way you sing that, it kind of sounds like a John Denver song. It kind of does. Yeah, I didn't know he did a TV series where he was an FBI or a cop. What? Yeah. He knew he had like a variety show. I didn't know about this cop show. No, it was like a pilot and he was like punching people, but it's like punching like John Denver would punch people. Now you're going to get Rocky Mountain High. You know, he sings the songs and stuff at the end. Like, oh, what's it called? McLeod. No, is it McLeod? No. No, not McLeod. That's the Simpson series. The fake Simpson's action. John Denver TV show pilot. Someone in the general has to know. John Denver. No, not. Oh, I see. It's called Higher Ground. It was an unsold TV pilot. Of course it is. How did we not guess that? Higher Ground. It was later rebooted by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Let's see if I can share with Stevie Wonder. Do we, do we, what do we pick it? What do we pick it for? I think we're going to go with, I mean, cover me. Cover me. Pizza doesn't really. Side lasers. I like joint. Although I must say I like joint ecosystem. We could do that. Scott, do you have a deciding vote? If it were me, I would go with side lasers, but I just like the way that sounds. All right. Side lasers, it is. I don't know why. I, I. Because you like lasers. Do we spell laser with a Z? Z. It's with a Z. I'm going to, I'm going to show people this. I'm going to show the audience this. If you're still watching. Lasers. What are you showing people? This is that TV pilot, Higher Ground. There he is. John Denver, a man of action FBI agent. Don't get us. Don't get us into a takedown notice situation. That's amazing. Look at that. Careful, Roger. Yes. That's how we get takedowns. Why didn't play the money? That's crazy. We're talking about it. And I haven't played any music. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. The YouTube bot does not take context into your account. Stupidest thing ever. You didn't have it full screen though. So I think it's probably okay. There's no reasoning with the YouTube bot. What's he saying is that's lived on that? He's like John Denver's cop partner in Higher Ground. There's just no reasoning with him. Cover me in pizza. I remember I got a takedown notice once for, they pulled down a video clip I did for I09 and we come to the future show. And it's because I used a song that sounded remarkably like the Doctor Who one, except that it was down and octave and the keys were flipped. It still flagged it. Yeah. I've gotten flagged for using stock music because someone had used stock music and submitted their entire clip to the bot. And so the bot's like, well, they own everything in this clip. It's like, no, they don't own the stock music. Yeah, I got it. That's the whole point of stock music. Got it from APM and really cheesed me. It's like, this is licensed music. Yeah. I don't understand. And then we got, when we were doing Sword and Laser for Geek and Sundry, we asked people to send us video questions. And then we would play a video question and then the show would post and Geek and Sundry would submit all of their shows to the bot. And then the person who said the video question would get their question taken down because they was like, this matches what's in the Geek and Sundry video. It's like, yeah, because that's what we asked them to do. Ridiculous. Yeah. Well, that's why we distributed off our own servers for the longest time. It's a whole new world of censorship. See, like, if you're really good at karaoke and you can sing like, it's a whole new world, would you get a takedown notice even if- You could. You might. In fact, we did, on Cord Killers one time, we showed a bit of a parody of Let It Go with words that had been rewritten as Game of Thrones references. And we got a takedown notice from an Eastern European record label that had a like, check version of Let It Go Up and they said that our version matched theirs. What I think probably happened is that the parody people used the check version as their backing music possibly and that's why we got caught in that trap. But it was crazy. But it's never about what's legal. That's what frustrates me. Well, we're putting Tencer Guy to sleep. By the way, congratulations to Haimei and Mahalo Vect funded yesterday. No, you deserve to go to sleep. So freaking cool, man. Yeah, I can't wait to get mine now. Now I've got to wait for the rest of the month to finish. So what else is going on? Did y'all see any good baseball games lately? And any read any good books? Yes. What'd you read? Reading a book called Crossroads. Oh, come on, Scott. What's it called? Guideposts. I always do that. This is a magazine. Here, hold on. I'm going to tell you. My grandma got that magazine. It's called. It's taken forever here. Hold on. Library. Here it is. Oh, it's because I don't have it on my phone yet. It's on my other Kindle. That's why it's not showing up. Cloud. Got to look at the cloud. Clouded. With a chance of meatballs. Rice Templar. Rice Templar. No, the mice Templar. It's called Dead Man's Crossing. OK. And it is by Joe R. Lansdale. Oh, the Joe R. Lansdale. Yeah, he does a ton of stuff, like all kinds of genre stuff and all of the map. Anyway, it's relatively short. But yeah, I guess I mean, I'm going to just straight up call it a short story, but it's about this old preacher in the Old West whose job it is to seek out evil, where he finds it and flush it out of these old. Oh, this is so Scott Johnson. This is great to write specifically for you. Yeah. And I'm doing it and I picked it because I'm in the middle of the second experience book, but I thought I'm just going to read this quick. It looks awesome. It was 99 cents on Kendall on sale. Like, I'm just going to read you this thing and then I got hooked and so I'm going to finish that and then I'm back to back to space. It's really good. That happens to me, too. Like, I'll get a gap and I'll be like, oh, I want to read this other book next, but it's not out yet or something. And then I'll start reading something and I'll get caught up. That's happened to me with Rachel Bach recently. The character's name is, let me see. I love this. He does horror movies, modern like thrillers. He does all kinds of stuff, not horror movies, horror books. Can't find the guy's name. Anyway, his name is Jebediah. Jebediah. Yeah. And he comes into town and there's like demons here. I'm going to take out these demons and tears out pages of a Bible. It keeps with him. And when they hit the ground, if they light on fire, that means evil's near. And it's, and he has this, supposedly he's like kind of an avenging angel, but he can't stand God in this context because he thinks everything's jacked up and people are like preacher. I don't think the, I don't think God answers my prayers. And he goes, I don't think anyone is very much like the comic book preacher in theme ways, not in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's, he's willing to do his job, but he's not happy to be the guy. It's good. He doesn't like his boss. Yeah. He likes the job. Very, you know, it's like in 1860 or something. And all the trunks are there, but he has a really good way of kind of Cormac McCarthy way, or maybe I'm trying to give a better example, but a great sort of descriptive style that's kind of artsy and fartsy. It's good. I like it. Oh, it's both kinds. I almost got my foot caught in my chair. I need a new chair. Do you have any recommendations? It needs to be 24 to 26 inches. Are you going to buy me the Aeron chair? Those things are expensive. They are expensive. I know, but that was the last upgrade at the revision three office. It's the sign of a dying company where they start buying the Aeron chairs. Is it? Oh, they started revolution. Oh, whatever. I don't understand. I mean, I get it that Hasbro wants to do this, but you're literally mushing together five different toy lines that don't belong here. What are you talking about? No, Hasbro. We were talking about Aeron chairs, and suddenly you were talking about Hasbro. I missed a step somewhere. No, no, sorry. I was looking through my feed. Revolution is basically IDW and Hasbro's attempts to do a cross multi-universe spanning arc like the way Marvel and DC do. Except for them, it's just like, what if you take mask and transformers and three other toy lines I don't remember off the top of my head? And we'll just cram it together. Oh, ROM. Remember ROM? Oh, yeah. I heard they're rebooting ROM. Put that mask, transformers, and G.I. Joe, and we'll make it like in the same universe and we'll have them all. It's like, no. It's like, it just doesn't mess.  Although, if you did all three of those and did a chud spin on it. Do you remember ROM? Scott? Oh, I remember chud. I saw chud for, we watched it for film tech. Bad movie. It's classic like schlock. It's really schlocky and it has a great idea like concepts awesome. Actually, you know what else is really great? We watched it the other night, Clive Barker's Night Breed. Oh, I love that movie. That movie's great still. It's kind of bad, but great. It's, it's, it's, you know, I mean, you understand for, for when it was made and for the budget it was made, but I liked it. It had, it had a little heart to it. I totally agree. It's the director's cut, the cabal cut or whatever is on Netflix. Oh, I have to watch it. Yeah, we had a good time. I was surprised how actually, you know, it really holds up as a soundtrack. It's a Danny Elfman joint, which at that point, we'd only really heard Batman. He was still sort of new on that stuff. And it's, wait, did he do the Simpsons too? It's really good. Wasn't Elfman doing the Simpsons TV? Yeah, he was doing that well before that. That's true. But his movie stuff really started with Batman and then Tim Burton stuff. And then. And then he somehow totally disowned Oingo Boingo for some reason. You got to bring that up. I'm a, I'm a movie composer. I'm a soundtrack composer, score composer. There's this Oingo Boingo sorority rock you listen to. In fact, I did a vine from that movie. I'm going to send it to you, Roger, you can look at it. It's real weird. I'll put it in Slack. I don't want to play music. I just wanted to let me link it. No, wait, hold on. Let me see if it'll let me. Okay, turn that off. Here we go. Link. This was one of the creatures. Like the practical effects in that movie. Totally hold up. It's really well done. That's the sign of a good special effects. Like even Ray Harryhausen stuff. Let's just go Belichick. That is not it. Sorry. Okay. No, I was going to say that Oingo Boingo, that one song, Dead Man's Party, used to be the staple of any Halloween bash that you would throw. You would have that. It's a Dead Man's Party. Totally. I'm just an old guy. I'm sorry, everyone. There you go. Getting rid of this old Belichick because it makes no sense. Oh, is it still loading? It won't play for me. I guess it's still loading. Oh, is it? Okay. Uploading or something. Oh, there it goes. Oh, yeah. Nice.  You know, the one I really thought I would have aged but I still like is the Dark Crystal, like the puppets, the Jim Henson stuff. Yeah, I love Dark Crystal. Really holds up. I thought it wouldn't. T.E. Z. Gahn says Roger isn't in chat, but Danny Elfman mostly left Oingo Boingo due to hearing loss issues. Their farewell tour in 1995 was it for him. Oh, I didn't know that. So I didn't have to see Composer. He's still rocking the movies. I can see where he... I mean, who wasn't Beethoven, Death? Yes, but wasn't he Austrian originally? Who? Beethoven. What does that have to do with that? Oh, no. You said German, and I said, what was it in the Austrian? I didn't say German. Did you? I thought German. I don't know.  Oh, no. Wait, everyone remembers? It was Austrian. Everyone in Beethoven. It doesn't matter. Beethoven was not Hitler. That's the point. No, no. It's like everyone remembers the Austrian, but not the German. Or no, that he was... Whatever. Yeah, one of those. You know what? Roger's got a lot of paperwork these days. Give him a freaking break. A lot of paperwork. So much paperwork. You know what? If someone can disrupt that entire process, make it simple and effective, and you know what you're doing, it would be awesome. 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