Hey everybody, welcome to Linuxcast. I'm your host Matt. And I'm Tyler. Welcome everybody to the Linuxcast. We are podcasting live as we always do on Saturdays at 3 o'clock PMC through time. If you want to catch the live version of the show, which is only available during the live stream or via Patreon, you can do so by subscribing at thelinuxcast.org. That's not where you're supposed to go. YouTube.com such as Linuxcast.  It's alright. It's been a long day already. Both of them would actually work, but it's fine.  Anyways, welcome to Linuxcast. We talk about Linuxy things. Today we have a topic, but before we get into that we're gonna jump into the thing that we always do and talk about our week in open source. So Tyler, what's you've been up to this week? Messing around a lot with my flake. I've improved quite a lot about it. So the structure of it's changed a little bit and I've just kind of simplified a lot of things and I've started using like if statements in Nix to like choose different configuration options based off of like profiles that the user can set. So like you can run like an AMD desktop. Hopefully in the future I'll have like an Intel desktop, you know, AMD like the graphics card you'll be able to switch out. Like if you've got an NVIDIA GPU that'll switch settings, whole bunch of stuff like that down the line. I'll be implementing stuff for like virtual machines. I've already got a couple options in there for that. So I've just been making improvements and working a lot and testing a lot of the stuff that I can do and that and working out on the fun weather. That's about it. Been having to be out in that cold like freaking wind which stinks. But Southerners aren't supposed to get this type of weather. I understand that. It's all right. We've actually gotten used to it today. It's like almost 20 degrees and like, oh man, this is kind of warm. Like it was over is negative eight overnight. It was great. So me, what have I done this week? So I have been messing around with fixing my home directory. So I'm not going to talk too much about this because I have a dedicated video coming out this late later this week. But just to know that I have a really hard time with developers shoving everything that they want willy nilly into my home directory every time I install an application.  But I've mostly given up on it on actually fixing it because there's not much you can do about it. And yes, there's things that you can move by setting environment variables and stuff like that.  The rest of the stuff has to stay. So I found a workaround and that's what I've been working on. And that that was fun. I also have been working on creating a better share mechanism. So there's a program called local send, I think is the name of the application. I'm going to do a video on that as well. If it works, I've only just installed it today. But basically what it does is it allows you to share files between your computer and your phone, which is nice. Now, I know that KD Connect will do that. But I don't need all the other stuff that KD Connect does. So this was just easier. But so that's what I've been trying to do. Because at least twice a week, I always have a picture or a file or something that I need to take from my phone to my computer. Like last week, so last week's podcast was fun. So I was supposed to do tech over tea with Brody, letting that cat out of the bag a little bit. But my internet went down right as I was getting started. And it was still out Monday night when Nate sent me the podcast. So here's what I had to do with it for the podcast in order to get to work. So Nate sent me the KDN Live file on my Discord. So I had to get the KDN Live file on my phone, hook my phone up via a USB cable, put it on my computer, render the KDN Live file into the appropriate MPV file, transfer it back to my phone because I didn't know computer or no internet. I mean, and so I had to put it back on my phone use 5G, which let's just ran about 5G for a second. I've had dial up that's faster than 5G.  But anyways, I got the video back on my phone uploaded it to YouTube via my phone. It took three and a half hours to upload. It was ridiculous. And the thing about, so I have an iPhone. And the thing about the iPhone is if you can't upload stuff in the background, like you can on Android, like Android will start a separate process and put it up in like the notification bar in some applications. So it was just like, you know, upload. But on the iPhone, you have to keep that thing on. Not only like the app open, but the screen on, otherwise it times out.  I get like two, two and a half hours into it, like 75% and it had to start over again.    So that was not a good experience. But anyways, that's basically what I've been doing. I have been, I'm still having the wind of manager blues, but that's neither here nor there. I don't need to talk about that for a third week in a row. I'm still on X-Monad, by the way. I just also still don't like Askel, but that's again, neither here nor there. All right. So that's what we've been doing in open source. Well, I have a couple things that I need to talk about before we jump into the main topic. First, Pernate, our awesome editor, I'm supposed to remind Tyler that the reason why his audio crept out like last week was because of Nick's OS and that he should use a real distro. Don't blame the pressure on that. That's Pernate. 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And we can move on to the, to the main topic today, which is content creation on Linux. Now, before we do jump in, just to let you know, this topic came via Fragile on the Discord server. So if you would like to suggest a podcast topic, there's a dedicated channel on the Discord where you can submit it. And it will be voted on. And we will actually do your podcast topic if, you know, we want to we have ultimate veto authority because, you know, we're not doing the Linux from scratch challenge. I'm sorry, whoever submitted that we're just not doing it. Neither Tyler or I have that kind of time or interest in doing all of us challenges. It's not going to happen. But if you want to leave a topic on the first to consider, head on over to the Discord channel, server, select the podcast ideas channel and then leave us one there and we'll take a look at it. So there you go. Anyways, this one's from Fragile content creation. So Tyler, you have done various podcasts in the past, you've made obviously many many videos. So what I thought we could do would just kind of go through some of the things that we do some of the tips and tricks that we've learned over the course of the last how many years we've been doing this and just, you know, wing it from there because I have no plans, obviously. Well, I would say the to address the first question that probably is like very, very common is, can you stream or record video without using OBS? And I would say like on Linux, yes, you can. There is a handful of tools for doing it. I highly recommend staying away from just using ffmpeg. Anyone that tells you to just use ffmpeg is trolling. Trust me, I've streamed with ffmpeg. You can do it. We all remember. It's not easy. You probably will have many, many problems. So but then when it comes to actually like why you might want to use OBS, like so with you and doing content creation on Linux, why have you chosen OBS? Well, I mean, it's literally the only option, I think. I mean, there's like there's like one called like X streamer or something like that that's available, but nobody ever uses it. I mean, even like people who just use windows use OBS because it's like the of all the programs are out there is like the default. And it's default for reason because it's good. You know, yeah, it pisses me off because it doesn't remember transforms like 60% of the time. But I'm pretty sure that's more like a me problem than anything else. But other than that, I mean, it does everything that you need to do it can record multiple tracks of audio, which is really nice, which is something that I probably should set up now that I think about it. But you can do that you can if you want to, at least theoretically run multiple instances of it. So you could record multiple camera streams as well, which is nice. And basically allows you to set up an entire streaming system. So if you do multiple podcasts, or you do videos and you do a podcast like I do, you can have different sync collections, which I find like the best thing ever. So like I have a sync collection for the podcast. And when there was more of us had a sync collection for when there was just three of us and a certain person was missing, I have a sync collection for Wayland, when I needed a dedicated Wayland instance so I could, you know, have pipe wire be the stream capture and not, you know, the X work. So it just has so many features. And like you said, the other option is FFM peg. And we all remember the Japanese movie version of Tyler where he was talking and then the audio came five seconds later. That was that was the what the BSD days.  Yeah, those are good days. You can go back and watch some of those episodes. So, oh, I should have talked about that in my thing. I redid the website, but we can talk about it later. Sorry. I'm scared to brain today, man. This is really bad. This is good. This will make for like very natural conversation. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about the website later because I'm interested to see what you've done with it because I haven't checked the website. So when we talk about it, I'll bring it up so I can see what you've changed. All right. But um, so with like, like when it comes to doing stuff inside of OBS or creating content, I think the biggest tip that I could give anybody is OBS will fix camera problems in other applications. So if you want to do content creation on Linux, it's actually kind of a bonus because you're already going to be using the program and you're probably going to be piping your, you know, cameras and stuff into it anyway. So use the virtual camera option, like install v4l2 loop back on your system and make sure it's started and then use the virtual camera and use the dummy device that that creates from OBS inside of like discord or anywhere else because that green flashing that you have with your camera and I would have with my camera inside of discord is fixed when it's when it goes through OBS. So definitely take advantage of that feature. A lot of people don't know that you can do that. So or you could do what Matt did and hook up a second webcam. That too. I did that for a while as well. It also works. Yeah, it's just such a nerdy thing. But yeah, Josh brought up simple screen recorder and the GNOME screen recorder tool. Those are okay if you're making videos, but they don't do very well with single sources, multiple sources, I should say. So if you want to create your if you want to record your webcam and your screen and maybe have a and screen credit or whatever or you want to create or you or you have a words are hard. You have one of these things the catch card. That's where that's where I was looking for. Good Lord, Matt. If you have catch card, it's harder to use one of those things than OBS. OBS supports all that stuff simultaneously. And you don't have to, you know, mess around with, you know, recording your audio one your video once and then recording it again, basically to get the other source. It's not as easy with those things. Those are much more simple tools for for content creation. If you're just recording your screen, or just recording your your your webcam, you know, those probably work well. And I mean, it also allows you to do nice transitions like that without having to do that in post, which is it is definitely nice. It saves you editing time after the fact. You don't have to add in something like that. If you're going to be, you know, switching and doing stuff inside of a recording. Yeah, maybe eventually somebody can walk me through how to do that because that looks really freaking cool, but I'm too dumb to do it. Oh, I'm sorry, man. Like I didn't know you didn't know how. Yeah, dude, we'll set up a time. I'll show you. It doesn't take long at all because you literally like you just have to show me like what kind of transition you think is really cool. And I'll show you how to make it because it's it's actually Kaden live is ridiculously good for for making those stinger transitions. Let's talk about Kaden live for just a minute. And then we'll come back to to OBS just because I have a couple of things to say about that. But hey, it's still about content creation. Let's go. So I may so Alex from the Linux to point me towards an AI like I know it's AI, but he told me to point me towards an AI tool to make shorts out of your podcast. Basically, you feed it the link from your podcast, and it will create a whole bunch of shorts and it'll do all the work for you.  And like, first off, shorts don't earn you any money on YouTube like $0. I think I've earned like maybe $4 on shorts my entire YouTube careers. Now granted, they just started doing like revenue share. So there's that aspect to it. But still you don't earn very much unless you like get millions of views. So I didn't I refuse to pay the $16 month but you can use the free version but it puts this gigantic honking watermark on it. And I hate that. So what I did was I cheated. I let them create the shorts but then I just because it like finds the best shorts for you and like dices them up and nice and you so you just what I did when I went and found that part of the podcast and went into Kaden live and made the short myself. So Kaden live has speech recognition built in to it and you can go to the subtitles menu. It will listen to your entire video, create the subtitles and line them up specifically with the words on the screen. So if you ever watch the TikTok video or YouTube short or whatever and they have the subtitles right on the screen and they move along as it goes along, Kaden live will do that.  It was really cool. And that's the Katie the Kaden live connection.  That thing has so many awesome freaking features. It's just like every time I go into I go, wow, I didn't know Kaden live did that. Like over and over again. Like I'm always constantly surprised by it. It's like the only video editor that I'd probably use. I know other people like resolve but it's too complicated for me. I mean, I liked eventually resolve but for most for most types of content like that are generally around Linux and gonna be done on Linux. I I don't think you know a lot of the features of DaVinci resolve like I mean the major one being its color correction. And it's it does have a completely different kind of workflow. So I mean, maybe you can make that make an argument that you prefer that. But I think generally speaking DaVinci resolve there's a lot of features that most people just aren't going to take advantage of and probably don't need like you probably don't need to color correct your terminal. Like it's it's fine. So if you're going to be like soup, like if you so people always asked like it came up in the Linux user group that we did the last time about YouTube and stuff. People ask how you get you get starred in stuff and and they asked for advice and my number one piece of advice I guys got to remember. I'm not Mr. Beast like I have a few subscribers but I don't like not the the supreme, you know, advice maker on on YouTube. But if I had to give one piece of advice, it would be one, your first videos are going to suck. And this is this also happens with podcasts. So it all work, like any type of content you're going to create, whether it's for YouTube or podcasts or whatever, your first ones are going to be absolutely terrible. It doesn't matter if you've spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on your microphone setup, your camera, whatever, it doesn't matter, none of that stuff matters. Your first ones are going to be are going to be bad. It's just absolutely true. Your first videos were bad. My first videos are bad. I'm sure Mr. Beast's first videos were bad. It's just the nature of the beast. Very few. I mean, every once in a while, you'll go to a YouTube channel and they have like five videos and they're all like cinema quality.  So they're going to be good right. But unless you're in that really rare perspective, your first content is going to be bad. So just be bad for a while. That's the point of it is just get it out there. And the tools that you use matter less than actually just doing it. So if you, yes, you can spend $300 on DaVinci Resolve and get it so that it works good on Linux, but you don't have to. You can use tools like Kate and Live. And even as you become more successful, you'll find that you like, you prefer the free and open source tools probably more. But really the tools like your microphone is okay. Those stuff doesn't matter nearly as much as getting your content out there. Make your first podcast and then make your second podcast. And as you go along, then you'll get better. But the point that it's just, I don't really remember what point I was. It's really, really bad this week. Well, your point was just start making content. Just do it. Like you're you don't have to have a cinema quality to get started. Like you'll get better along the way. Also like the nice equipment and stuff like assuming you can't afford it, but you don't need it either. Like people are fine with a $40 webcam. It's okay. If you've got a bad mic, just save up and get one when you can. Like it's, it's fine. Like it's better to go ahead and start like if that's what you're interested in and you'd like to start a hobby with it, start it like no one starts a hobby and is good at the hobby when they first start. It's fine. Learn, learn how to talk, learn how to edit and learn how, learn how to do that stuff, then get better recording equipment and stuff like as you go. And it's so much easier to do. So see here's my argument is that I think that it's easier to get started on content creation on Linux. I don't think that a lot of people would agree with me, but those people have experience with the tools on Windows. So on Windows, you're going to be very tempted to use the Adobe products because that's what everybody uses.  And that stuff costs money. And because it costs money, it's going to put a block, a blockade in front of you to get your first content out because you're not going to want to pay that money. Like it's a lot of money for the first month to get those pieces of software. And that's going to keep you from probably starting it because you're going to like, Oh, well, you know, I don't have to really have the money. I'm going to have to wait until I get the money and then whatever. With the open, obviously the open source tools are available on Windows, but you're much more likely to use the open source tools on Linux because the Adobe stuff is not here.  Those things are amazing on Linux. Now they're obviously amazing on Windows as well. But the point is, like I said, they're that's really what you have on Linux. You have kind of forced to use those. And as you do, you kind of realize that, you know, I can do this and I don't have to have the, you know, the 40 or 50 or $70 a month subscription to the Adobe tools. And it removes that, you know, block to actually getting your content out there. And like I said, they're good tools. Like, say what you want about Audacity's like interface, but it just works really well, unless you're Tyler and and it hates it, hates it half the time. But that's okay. That's just the Tyler problem. If you use the real distro. Sorry. No, I mean, to be honest, everything works just fine. Like also I would say too, when it comes to like which distro you need to go with for content creation, it doesn't matter. Like if you have any problems with your system packages, try a flat pack that'll probably fix it. It's probably just the system packages out a day. Doesn't come with something being built or whatever. Try the flat pack version. You might need to have flat seal as well to edit permissions for it. Maybe. But if you're using flat packs or familiar with them, you probably got flat seal anyway. So you're fine. I don't really see many problems with choosing a distribution. Like, I mean, last week, I muted the audio for buddy barking and then forgot to unmute it. So it kind of ruined everything. But, you know, apart from user error, normally, regardless of Linux distro, you'll create content just fine. I should say that I'm trolling the NixOS guys and Tyler specifically. I've gotten into some trouble about that. Of course, last week, I'll try not to troll the NixOS guys much. It's all in good fun.  They really have become arch Linux when it comes to their defensiveness of their but we're not talking about NixOS again. We totally ruined that conversation by having it multiple times. But anyways, the other thing that I want to talk about is that I do something different than a lot of other people do. Like, a lot of people will rely 100% on OBS record your video and audio at the same time. And it does a good job of that. You can do that. Tyler's doing that right now. Tyler does that in his videos. I've always done it two different ways or in two places. I should say I record audio and video in OBS. But I also record it in audacity. So and this is just the thing. It's not really a Linux thing. But I fully believe in the bottom of my heart that it's better to have backups than not. And just as you go along and making your content, you're going to experience this every single person has where they've either forgotten to record, hit the record button or something's went, you know, corrupt or something's went wrong with the audio or you're recording or here's one that we've all done. You have a webcam on your monitor. It has a microphone.    Always, always have a backup. It's so much easier. Now, that's it's not always going to solve all the audio problems every once in a while. You'll you'll still be coming through the wrong source, but chances are if you're you're focusing on two different recordings, specifically if you're recording in your audio in audacity as well, you'll be able to at least kind of see all those audio levels look a little high. And you'll you'll you'll learn to know that the audio levels on your webcam can usually look higher because the gains like blown out of proportion because they they need to be able to hear people that usually sit farther away from the screen. And it's just you know, you'll learn those little tricks, but always as often as possible have a backup. So for our podcast, we everybody always asks, why do you do the claps? Well, we do the claps because we record separate audio so we can line those up. That's why we do the claps. But also in terms of backups, we have the OBS version of the audio, we have the audacity version of the audio which is being recorded in two places. And if we needed to, we would have a third thing, like if I lost power, or my my hard drive went corrupt immediately after the podcast, please don't do that to me, I could go to YouTube and download the YouTube video and get the audio that way.  I mean, I've enjoyed having a lot of I don't know, I've enjoyed having a lot of choice to with the types of stuff you can do like our software you can choose to use because I mean, if you if you don't like Caden live, there is other video editors like don't and just because we mentioned one program doesn't mean there aren't alternatives that work just as well for it. I mean, even though OBS is probably hands down the best tool for recording, there are others that you could use. You don't have to use it. And there is also probably still some other users like it, like if we're talking about like OBS compared to something like simple screen recorder, there's there's definitely going to be more people that are around and available to help you with your OBS problems, but you still will be able to get help, you know, if you have problems with simple screen recorder or, you know, whatever program. Yeah, definitely. The choices thing is very important because not everybody.  So here's the thing, like everybody knows that if you use Caden live, they go through periods.  They do that, you know, they, they fix bugs or whatever.  And sometimes the solution is like Tyler said to install a different version of install the flat pack version or the snap or get it from your repose, whichever, you know, to switch to a different version, maybe you can download an older version if you're, you know, they have an app image, I hate app images, but one of the benefits of an app image is that you can just use an older version very, very easily to do so. So that's one option. Another thing you can do, like Tyler said, is just find a different thing to use. So they have, you know, there's all of which I've never really cared for. But a lot of people seem to really, truly like, you know, there's there's a free version of resolve if you can get it to work.  And that's fantastic. It's because I'm sure that if you were to use be a Windows user that there would be like options over there, too. And I'm long removed from my Windows days, because I don't actually know. But, you know, I'm sure that there are other options, but it feels like if you're on Windows that you're either going to be using Premiere or one of the professional tools. And that's basically it. Now, obviously, Caden Live is on Windows. If you're on, if you are on Windows, a lot of the open source software is there as well. But but I mean pro tip, use Linux. It's better. I will say, though, because of things like Windows Movie Maker, when most Windows users do not have a good perception of free video editors, because on Windows, you either assume one of two things. Either it's like Windows Movie Maker and has like no features or the transitions it has, like it's been used a million times. It's not good. Or it's going to put a watermark over your edited video unless you pay for it. And then at that point, why not go out and pay for something that's like, you know, a standard that has a ton of tutorials around it to help you like, you know, learn stuff as you go has a lot more features. So it's really hard to get Windows users to not just go ahead and spend the money on something that's considered industry standard and learn that, which I understand that the mentality behind that it makes sense, like on usually Windows users are much more interested or much more willing to pay money for things, which are just Linux people are less interested in that kind of thing. But I think I think the context of in comparison to Linux users is important. They're they're much more likely to spend money than we are. Well, it's like the comparison between iOS and Android users. iOS users are much more much more willing to spend money than Android users. It's just always been the case. There's a reason why Apple makes a bunch of money out of the app stores because everybody spends money on there. And every app. All right, hold on a second. Just let me do a tangent here for a second.  I don't need a $20 a year subscription service to get me a wallpaper. I'll just go to Google images. OK, so every and it's just like every application has a subscription service just like and it feels hypocritical because I have a Patreon page where people subscribe to give me money. But so I'm just another subscription service. But it just drives me absolutely bonkers. So anyways, that's that's complete. I mean, that that was the definition of a tangent. But I can help it like I thought about it.  It just pisses me off. No, I completely agree. Just so. So let's talk a little bit then about we kind of touched on it like we've kind of we've talked a lot about the tools. Let's talk a little bit about the actual content itself. So obviously, this is going to be highly dependent on what you are going to be talking about. So like the ideas here are infinite in numbers. We can't just like say, you know, if you're going to talk about Linux, you know, here's the best way of doing things. But if you're talking about fashion or makeup, whatever, it's going to be completely different. But specifically, if you're looking at creating Linux content, the things that you talk about are going to be very well covered and you can't be afraid of the idea that you're going to be creating a lot of YouTube videos, probably if you're going to make YouTube videos about things that DT and Brody and Matt and all the others have already made videos on. Don't be afraid of it because it's going to happen. I guarantee.  Yes, he did. I don't care. I made it to Justin. Just hold on. Just so we give a perfect example of this, wasn't it like you published a video on flat packs and I published a video on it like either like one of us was like the day before or the day after the other one. And we had literally not talked about it at all and had no idea that the other one was doing it. It happened so all the time. So it's just because there's such a small pool of actual content ideas for us to have. So for example, I made a I made a video on floor. But it's a Firefox work. Three days later, Chris Titus Tech made a video on floor. I didn't care because some people who watched his video came and watched my video and I got traffic from it. It was cool. It happened. So that specifically in a very niche subject like Linux, like software, even, whatever development, whatever you're going to get into, don't be afraid of making duplicate content. You need to find other ways to differentiate yourself, which is important. But oftentimes, you're going to be covering the same topics as a lot of your quote unquote competitors. It's just going to happen. And also just ignore the people who say your cop. I mean, unless you're actually blatantly copying somebody, which is bad. But if you just have the same idea, you know, I think also an important thing to say here is actually share your real opinion on stuff. If people disagree with your opinion, that's fine. And that's normal. I think that's kind of what that's the only acceptable way of doing videos. Like you kind of do need to actually share your opinion unless you're literally running. Like if you want to do just a news channel, that's exactly what you're going to do.  Sure, maybe not. But otherwise, I would say, give your real opinions and actually talk about that. It's also the best way to get comments. Because if someone doesn't like your opinion, trust me, they're leaving a comment and that's good. Yeah, that's good. Do what I do. I rant.  There you go. You'll get death threats. That's how many comments you're going to get. Like things like that. A lot of people talk about Linux Mint. In fact, I probably made a video about Linux Mint during a release cycle where I criticized Linux Mint. So you you're of the best way to differentiate is exactly what Tyler says. Make it your opinion. Because the answers are your opinions going to be slightly different than Nick from the Linux experience of the experiments opinions different than mental outlaw. You know, all we're all different, separate little special snowflakes and we're going to all have separate ideas and stuff. And that's important to learn. Also, don't. So, especially in the Linux in the Linux sphere, people have a tendency to do this. I did this. I know a lot of people, other people that they tend to develop a style based on other people's content. So specifically, I'm talking about DT. A lot of people still emulate DT's like thumbnails. I saw somebody who had a thumbnail that had his exact colors. You know, it looked like that. Now, some people think some people do it because while they think they'll confuse people by thinking that they're DT, other people just think, well, you know, that looks cool. I'm going to do it that way. And that's fine.  It's just it will happen over time as long as you're willing to deviate from the inspiration that you started off from. Well, and also, like, I think my best my best advice to someone is like if you have no idea of your own type of like style for a thumbnail that you want to go with, instead of just trying to replicate one person's style of thumbnail, like the best way of not being considered just a copycat of someone else is and you still want to derive inspiration from someone else to pick two to three people's thumbnails that you really like and figure out what you like best from each of them and then do that for your thumbnail style. Like that's that's kind of the best the best way of going about it. If someone's got really big, large bold text in a certain type of like modern font, take that then then, like, you know, if someone has a border thing like style that you really like, take that and then like the overall layout of how the contents arrange to like take that from somebody else and then mix match them all together and try using that thumbnail. Like do that kind of approach. It's unique in. Yeah, it's a really good idea. Or you could do it as I saw somebody. So there's two different ways you could do it if you wanted to. First off, there are tools out there. If you want to do the AI thing, it's not for me, but you could do it and that would literally automate what Tyler just said is that what they're doing is taking a whole bunch of stuff and putting into one. It's just you can be lazy about it and use it instead. Another thing I've saw that people do is use things like Canva, which is like an online Photoshop kind of thing. They have dedicated templates that you could use. But let me talk about pet peeve for just a minute. And you know, I have I think we share this or maybe you don't share it because you put your ugly mug on your thumbnails. Yep. So we're a little bit differently. I'm never going to put my face on my thumbnails. You're just never going to do it. I think I did it one time.  I don't care for that particular type of thumbnail. And that's kind of the point we've been making all along here is that you got to kind of develop your own statement. For me personally, I don't like the the face on the thumbnails. Tyler's are actually very tasteful. He just has his face. Usually it's him and buddy or whatever. It's fine.  You know, just don't it's not like a. Oh, my God. Face. I like Brody a lot. He's a good friend. But you know, he makes some really weird faces on his thumbnails.  It's just not going to happen. OK, just it's not the way I'd click on a video with you in the thumbnail for sure. Well, because you would have to know, given my idea that my thoughts on, you know, that kind of thumbnail that this video has to be interesting. So maybe when I really want a video to take off, I'll do it. I know I can do it. Guys, no. Anyways, that that really bugs me. But it works for a reason, like for whatever. I mean, I've been lucky where I don't do that and it seems to work out OK for me. But a lot of people find that if they don't put a face on their thumbnail, they don't get any traction at all. I don't know why that really is. There's some kind of psychological thing behind people wanting to click on a thumbnail that has a face on it. But the reason why I thought about this is because if you use a tool like Canva, a lot of times they'll have like models on it. Like here's the thing, OK, I've seen a lot of really, really small startup YouTubers do this, where they they take a image of a really hot woman, real gorgeous woman and put it on their thing. They're a dude, obviously a dude, very deep voice, but they have a sexy woman on the thumbnail expecting specifically dudes who, you know, I want to click on that type of content to click on that because there's a beautiful woman on there that happens all the time. Don't don't don't do that. OK. I mean, some people don't do it on purpose, but some of them blatantly do. It drives me bonkers when I see this because it just feels like, OK, I clicked on this expecting a beautiful woman. Where the fuck's the beautiful woman, you know? You know, I feel I feel robbed if I'm going to click on it for that reason. That's not a way to build a sustainable audience, because eventually people are going to realize, well, you know, that's a dude, not what's on the cover. OK. Yeah. Well, it's it's instead of clickbait, it's thumbbait. Yeah, yeah. It's just it's one of those things is just really so the thing thing about YouTube is, is that it spawns this type of behavior because there is a lot of money in YouTube. Now, obviously, you have to get to a certain point to make that type of money. Well, hold on, hold on. Let's be let's be honest. There's really not a ton of money in YouTube. I should actually say it better. There's a lot of interest in garnering attention on YouTube, not necessarily yes, money, like the more likes you get, the more clicks you get. And stuff makes you feel like you're accomplishing something. And if you the more skeevy you can get to get that attention. The better, at least some people think, not always in my opinion, because you do weird things like you can do. You do the tide pod challenge.  Yeah. Well, I don't think you make more videos after eating a tide pod. So like those dumbasses who are who are recording themselves jumping out of a moving car, like you can do that once. You're never going to do that again. That's not a sustainable content model, because you're you're either dead or you broke your legs, maybe both.  But yeah, I don't know. To bring it back to like making content about just Linux in general, I I I don't think there's much to worry about in choosing specific things. Like if if you have an interest inside of the Linux niche, make content about it. Like it like I don't think I think people are too worried where it's like, I'm only interested in Q-Tile. That's fine. Make a Q-Tile channel. I'd watch that. Exactly. Like that's that's great. Like if you want to go really in depth with something and you know nothing about it, that's not a problem. Like start making videos about you learning it. Be like like go over what you're like what you've done like over the past couple of days. Like, you know, like you can make content about pretty much anything. And I I do think a lot of people talk themselves out of starting a hobby and content creation that they're actually very interested in because they don't think what they would like to do. People would be interested in. There are people out there that watch somebody like carve out wood for six hours. Like you can you there are lives. There are literally live streams of someone working at McDonald's. And they have viewers like you can do it. Funny thing, one of my favorite things to see on TikTok because there's this one dude, he works in a Chinese restaurant. That guy is a boss at Chinese food. Like I don't I can't I don't like Chinese food. I'm watching this guy just hit there with his walk.  I just I could sit there and watch him for hours. And it's amazing. So all I think that leads into your you have to. It whatever your expectations are for your channel, temper them a little bit, but also be realistic. If you are going to start making your cutile videos, don't expect to be Mr. Beast.  It's going to be any content, you know, chances are you're not going to get to that point. It's just very unlike and it's like. And also it's the same thing with when you're starting from nothing. The handful of people like when you're only getting like, you know, a handful of people stopping by the channel like actually commenting and stuff, just know that will grow. As long as you keep doing it, it will grow no matter what. It might take, you know, weeks. It might take months, but it will grow. Just also relish the fact that you're not super big because every single person that I've interacted with that has a much larger channel than mine. I might even say even larger than yours, Matt. It is almost impossible to be personal with all the people that would like to talk with you because you there's literally even right now, I don't have enough time in the day to talk and address issues with stuff that I'm working on with with everybody in my discord that would like to speak with me about issues. Because obviously I've got Nick's OS stuff going on. So I've got people who would like help and stuff. And I just don't have time for everyone. I mean, I try my best, but I'm sure if I check my emails, I haven't even checked my emails. I'm sure there's somebody who's reached out there and I've just left him hanging for a day or two. Like so it it's nice when you have a smaller channel where the people who do like what you're doing and enjoy the output of your hobby, you can actually talk with. Appreciate that time because there will become a time where you feel like, you know, you can't do it. Like you can't like you can't be that nice guy for everyone just because you don't have that much time in the day. Yeah, absolutely. I definitely have experienced that as over time. It's just you can't I can't interact with all 42,000 people that subscribe to me. I just I just can't do it. I don't have that kind of time. But tools like discord do. So I was very opposed to starting a discord server at first just because I didn't want to manage it. And I still don't want to manage it. That's why I pushed it off under yours. So I mean, and I let my mods do a lot of the modding because I just don't have the kind of time to do it. But I found that having a discord server allows you to pick and choose and be personal, personal with a lot of people over the course of the day without feeling a burden. Because if you just miss if you miss something on YouTube or on discord, it's fine. You know, it's a chat application. Stuff's going to flow past faster than you're going to be able to see it anyways, just know that you can interact when you can. And just I mean, this is I think is a good piece of advice. Interact a lot of YouTubers sit on a throne above their their community and never interact because they think that they just don't have time to do any of it. And I don't really care. It's one of the reasons why I really like DT because DT will he'll come play zero AD with Tyler, you know, that's really cool. He'll he'll come on the Christmas show for the Linux tube. You know, he spent he spends a lot of time interacting. I mean, I mean, he has a huge audience, so obviously he doesn't have a ton of time to just talk to subscribers stuff. But he does spend time in his comment section. He but he also will interact with other Linux content creators, which is something that a lot of others will do. And I think that I like the type of content creator that even if they don't have time to reply to everybody, still spend some time amongst the, you know, the peasants of the of their community.  And I think that that does two things. One, it keeps people more interested and more connected to your content. But also it keeps you a little grounded because especially the more more subscribers, the more views you get, you can have the tendency, at least some people have the tendency to think that you are just pushing out content for the sake of either, you know, more subscribers, more views or more YouTubers or more money. And by spending some time in your community, no matter how big or small it is, it reminds you that you're actually doing this not only for yourself, but because you're trying to either help people or you're creating content for whatever specific you're using. And it's for, you know, somebody to view. They're actually people on the other end of the equation. Yeah, I think I think an important thing about a discord or like, you know, the reason why we're using discord is you can't do a hobby and do it alone for like years without talking to other people that do the hobby and expect. What you're what you're doing to improve like considerably? Like, I mean, you can improve by yourself, but there's a lot of things that you can learn a lot by just talking to other people. And discord allows you to be like the people who are in our discords are in our hobby. They are they are interested in the same kinds of things we're interested in. May not be the exact thing we're interested in at that at that moment. But it's it's very good to have that.  OK, that means like in the call, then rejoin the call. And now your webcam and everybody else's webcam will be working just fine. Like annoying issues like that as annoying as it can be. It is probably the most full featured and well rounded program that you can have for, you know, not just interacting with a community by sending messages, but talking with them and video calling, having all of those features, especially once your discord server gets big enough and people are boosting it, you can send pretty large files back and forth between people if you need to. So it kind of helps out. I do like discord as much as much as I will complain about it. I do like it. Well, yeah.  So the I guess the other thing in terms of we just go back to talking about creating the actual content is that when you people tend a lot of times we'll get bogged down in the tools of the half. So they'll wait to do something until they have the good microphone or they'll wait to have the good camera or whatever. And also, but here's the thing here.   Like, you guys know that this is going to be put on YouTube where the compression is like literally it compresses everything, right? That's all they do. And a lot of the lot of the YouTubers were doing this before YouTube even did 4K. Like, I understand like if you're going to shoot something with a higher resolution so that you can edit it later on in a lower resolution, that makes a little bit of sense. But and but you don't need to be shooting 16K footage. OK, you just nobody can view that. It's five thousand gigabytes. Nobody has that type of bandwidth, you know, it's just you don't have to do that. And I think that one of the bad parts about there being so many successful YouTubers out there is that you see them spending a ton of money on their setup.  Obviously, you're probably not thinking I have to go spend a $50,000.  But you don't. A lot of people just. Pro tip, OK, everyone has a phone of some kind. Use your phone. So I got to do like seriously, use your phone.  That's really all you need. You don't need anything fancy to get started. And I think I think that, see, for me, it was different because I had the expensive microphone to begin with, because I've been podcasting since 2009.  And I want that kind of stuff. And I was able to was very lucky to be able to buy that stuff when I wanted to have it. But when I wanted to create the YouTube channel, I had that stuff. And like, I have the Hile PR 40 behind me. It was my first big expensive microphone.  It's really, really bad. Unless you have like, unless you have like the editor who knows exactly how to make every piece of audio you've ever created sound good, which I am not one of those people. You can't get the Hile to sign sound good unless you know exactly what you're doing. Whereas something like the SM7B will, you know, make anybody sound good. But you don't need that kind of stuff to get started. Just use your phone.  Yeah, there it is. And it's like you to you. I don't know. I was like, it's like twenty five thirty bucks or whatever on Amazon, you can get it. It cooks via USB sounds perfectly fine. That's how Tyler started out. And then he got the pod mic, which is a hundred dollars, which came from me. And you can slowly upgrade yourself if you want to. But I know a lot of YouTubers that get really big and never upgrade their their their gear just because they don't care. It's as long as it's good enough. And that's kind of the where I'm at right now. Like I don't need a fancy DSLR. I like one, but I don't really need one. So I'm fine with what I have.   Like you don't need all of the expensive stuff.  Like I don't think you have to spend a lot of money to have like quality that won't, you know, that won't be upsetting to someone. You can make good quality with a run of the mill camera with a run of the mill microphone and do just fine. Like it's not a problem. Also, I would say don't spend a ton of don't spend a ton of time trying to fine tune things because once you start having people comment, like if you if you're having microphone issues and like everything sounding fine on your end, people people will actually let you know in the comments like, hey, you're like you're you sound quiet in the video. Yeah, everybody will let you. Audio is by far by far more important. Like everybody's saying in the in the comments right now, like by far more important than video quality is by far.  So like if you're going to do like Linux content, have your face down in the corner or whatever, at least for a little while as people kind of get to know you because it's more personable when they can see you. Now, it doesn't it's not 100 percent.  Like, no. So like you don't have to do that. I think that's an important statement to make, but it is nicer if you do it. Well, at least it makes it more personable, at least to begin with because it does get people to know you, what you look like. Like it was it was really hard for me because, you know, I'm not like the I don't want to put I didn't want to put my face on anything. I don't I would much have preferred to nobody ever know what I look like. But it's just if you're going to make this type of content, you're much more likely to gain traction at first. If you do have your face in your video somewhere along the line. It's not always the case like that. It's not like 100 percent true. There's a lot of tick tockers and there's a lot of YouTubers out there that have never shown their face. And there's a lot of I have a lot of interesting comments to talk about the tubers. I'm not sure that that actually particularly works all that well, at least on YouTube. Seems to work better on Twitch. Doesn't really seem to work all that well on YouTube. But if you're going to do something like that, I mean, at least then you're putting some effort into it. And people can I mean, that draws a certain type of audience. Right. It's going to turn some people away. You know, it's not going to appeal to everybody, but it's at least some effort to do something that's more, you know, unique to you because you can decide what your character looks like and stuff like that. So I think that overall, if you're going to make content, not just like on the Linux topic, but as on Linux, there are three things that you need to do. First, don't put this. Learn OBS like we talked about before. Absolutely learn OBS. That's there are other tools, but if you don't like OBS, you can always search for the tools. But if you learn OBS, you'll be happy. Learn Audacity. And when I was talking about learn, I don't mean like, oh, I'm going to be an expert in audio editing.  Learn, you don't need to learn what all the effects do. I to this day use three effects. Compression, noise reduction and normalized. Those are the three that I use. I've never used any others. Well, I think I used EQ back when I had the pod mic, but I fucked that up all the time. So I just learned not to do it because I don't know what I'm doing. Learn those three. That's all you need to do. And if you don't want to learn those three, that's fine. You'll probably sound a little bit better if you want to. But that's something that you can do after you've started making content. And the third thing is that, and this is less to do with the actual tools, but consistency is the best thing you can do on anything when it comes to actually gaining an audience. Always, like it doesn't, it doesn't have to be every day. Like, if you're going to make a video once a month, make a video once a month, that's great. Just make sure it's the same day every single month so people can kind of anticipate. Same thing with podcasting. If you're going to create a podcast, release the same time every single time. And it just, for whatever reason, that seems to be the thing that works the best. And that's kind of a well-known thing. So I would just say when you're when you're first starting out, if you really want, like if your goal is to reach as many people as fast as you can, know when you're starting out, think of like your YouTube uploads as like YouTube being a boss that lets you set your own schedule and you're setting it with how you're uploading it at first. So if you're uploading every day, YouTube expects that to be your schedule and they're only going to continue showing people those videos if you're sticking to that schedule. Like if you're not, then it's kind of like your boss who's like, I'm going to cut down your hours. Like I'll show it to some people, but not really as much as I was before, because how can I rely on you to upload videos? What you're very much training the algorithm is what you're doing is you train it. And a lot of people don't think like that.  And it can be that like, you and I both had videos where wow, that thing done really, really well. Why did it do well? No clue. Well, I thought that video was going to do way better than it was going to nobody watched it. That happens. Don't worry about it. There's nothing you can do about it. It's just the way that works. But there are certain things that you can do to train the algorithm somewhat specifically when it comes to consistency schedule, release every day, it's going to expect you to do release every day. Now you can change it, but it takes time and it also requires a bit of luck because sometimes it punishes you and you never recover.   If you can get ahead, get content, have a schedule, get ahead so that you have if you do get sick or get to you know, point where you're too busy to make one for the next week or whatever, you can push whatever you already recorded out and it's going to keep you from missing that schedule because consistency is absolutely the king of everything. But yeah, also, oh, one last thing, filler words are horrible, but everybody has them. Just know that everyone I'm all, you know, going through like, everyone has them and it dry, poor Nate. Just telling you Nate hates the filler words. But it happens. Everybody has a filler word and I have gotten so much better at not having filler words, but even then I still use all the time. It just happens like seriously, seriously happens. And it's just nothing you can do about it because you're always going to have some, but you can. And this is how I learned is that when you think you're going to have a filler word, just be silent. It's better to, it's much easier to edit out a silent than it is or whatever, you know? So don't be afraid of filler words, but try to do your best to filter them out as you can. And I mean, this is something that like I do, I do tell people like if you're going to start editing and you're editing out your ums and ahs and whatever. Some of them that makes sense. Like there are some filler words you probably don't need to cut out. Like if you're like if you go through, if you're going through and you know, it's like every 10 seconds, like, you know, 20 seconds, 30 seconds, you're saying it, yeah, cut cut a lot of them out. But there is probably going to be some of them that make sense where they are, like where you're thinking about something and, you know, and then you you say it really quickly afterwards. Like it there are some ums and ahs that can be left in and it's not it's not a problem. So you don't have to go through and make sure it's absolutely perfect. And there's not one single um or on the entire thing. Just cut out the excess amounts. Like, so I don't know. That's just kind of my advice. Don't don't think you have to be perfect in removing them and they all have to be gone.  And you sound completely unnatural.  I still have a tendency to do this a lot where I put the you know, I do a cut and then I put the words too close together. It you can make yourself sound like you never take a breath and that is very unnatural.   You know? Yeah. So you didn't get your mind out of there. Basically, it's your punctuation. There you go. Yeah, I can't wait to make you. But I don't know to me like when it comes when it also when it comes to doing like when it comes to editing things. If if you're if you're afraid of editing and you don't really want to do that and you you don't want to have to work on it, you can definitely sit down and for a while like I don't know how long it would take. Everyone's probably different, but it would probably take a month or two of training of sitting down when you got free time and recording a video and sit down, be awkward, talk to the camera and watch the video back and then try to redo the recording again without without using filler words and continue doing that and try to train yourself to sit down and be comfortable in front of a camera talking and with a deliberate mindset of whatever you're talking about in the background of your head, you're always thinking about don't don't use filler words. And I mean, I I think it would be hard to make an argument against that being a better way of approaching not having to edit out filler words and do all of that because I do see a lot of people that go and stream because they completely don't want to edit videos or anything. And if you're one of those people, I will say if if the whole point is you want to grow your channel and stuff, streaming is not a great way of growing your channel. It's a great way of engaging with the people that you already have on your channel, maybe catching a handful of stray people that don't watch your content and hang out and talk with you and engage with you, which if you want to stream, my best advice would be take your stream and edit like clips from it, do that and upload it to your channel. That's the best advice I can give you. Just edit clips, upload them, don't spend too much effort on the clips. Give it a good title, give it a decent subscription link, you know, to any upcoming scheduled live streams you got, all that kind of stuff. Give it all your links, push it. Now, that's that's pretty much my best advice for streaming. Yeah, all right, let's go ahead and move on. Then I think we I think we literally killed the topic which we talked ourselves in circles there for, but it was fun. All right, so let's go ahead and move on to the last last part of the show, which is the nuggies of the week.  We'll always wait. Have we done the links or like all that stuff? The content information, the context. Yeah, we do that. Are you new here? Right. I am. I am. Yeah, we'll do that after. I will probably won't remember. So you'll probably have to remind me again. Anyway, so the nuggies of the week are where we talk about things that we're interested in, and sometimes they're apps. Usually they're apps, you also do tips or tricks or whatever. So, Tyler, you are a nuggy of the week. If I'm being honest, I can't even remember what I placed in Neovide mine. Oh, that's right. Oh, yes. Because Neovide is something I've been wanting to dive into and haven't had time for it still yet. I'm trying to fix a whole bunch of like issues and stuff with my flake and system configuration for other people. So I haven't had time to really go into it. But man, I've been watching videos and like looking at other people's config. Neovide is pretty freaking awesome. Like it looks really, really nice. And it because it works off of Invit. Like so Neovide is a gooey front end to Neovim. And you have a lot of a lot of niceties that you can do with Neovide. Like, you know, smooth scrolling, you can have like cursor effects. Like there's a whole bunch of stuff you can do with it. So I think Neovide is going to get me back because I was using Neovim, went back to just regular old Vim because why not? And now I might be going back to Neovim again. So we'll see how that goes over the course the next week. All right, that's cool. Yeah, I tried Neovide. I still prefer the terminal, but that's just because I'm nerd. Wait, is all right. So mine is actually a phone app called Fable. And basically if you read a lot of books and you'd like to make that a social endeavor, which sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Fable is basically a book club app. So if you want to join book clubs and it's a good way to discover new books to read, you can head on over there. There's a ton of different clubs that you can join and you don't have to pay to join them. They're all free as far as I know. And you just join different clubs that are reading different things and you can either stay in those clubs as they read different books. And that will help you discover different books, which is what I've done. So a lot of them are like topic based. So I did one that's history, one with fantasy fantasy. And that's really it's a nice way to, you know, find new books, but also as you're reading them, you can go in there and take part in chapter discussions and stuff like that. So it's kind of, you know, a social endeavor so you can make reading. It's a little bit more let's just, you know, a lonesome thing. And it works well. I think it's on both Android and iOS, so you can check that out. And it just it works really well. It's a nice app. I wish they had a dark theme, but that's really my only complaint about it. And the two that I've joined, like I joined one with history, one with for fantasy, and they pointed me towards a couple really good books so far. So that's what that's my nuggy of the week. Again, it's called Fable. It's on both platforms. All right. So that is it for the Linuxcast this week. Guys, I know that this was a very niche topic and we're going to have quite a few niche topics going forward because we're taking these directly from the community. Now, we're not going to do community based topics every time. Sometimes it'll be like, oh, I have a good idea for a topic. That's what we'll do. Or Tyler will have a good idea for a topic and that's what we'll do.  But if you want to suggest a topic that you'll think be more fascinating, head on over to the Discord. There's a podcast ideas channel there. You can just leave one there and we'll take a look at it. So you can get in contact with us in any number of ways you can head on over to the website, which by the way, I've been talking about this for ages where I wanted to create a dedicated page for every single episode of the podcast. And I did it. All one hundred and thirty seven episodes of the podcast have their own dedicated page, not only with an embedded audio player, but with a YouTube video there as well. If they had a YouTube video that goes all the way back to season one, it took forever. Also, if you and here's the funny thing. If you subscribe to the RSS feed of the website, chances are you got a ton of spam because every single one of those pages came through all at the same time. There's one hundred thirty seven pings for anybody who's subscribed to the RSS feed. So if that happened to you, I apologize. I did fix it. I believe to the point where now if it comes through, you won't have to worry about the podcast coming through as well. But I apologize for the spam. 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Good morning. Good morning mate, how are you going? 730 is injury checks so players that are injured will come in early and get checked out. So today we've got Johnny who's got an atoll issues. And then we go in for a team meeting so we go through videos and talk about the upcoming game. About 10 o'clock usually we hit the pitch for training. For physios if we have an injured player we'll take them on the sideline and do a modified training session. We're going to do like a modified bike session with him instead. I'm from Gaara which is a small town in the north-west. I moved to Newcastle to study a Bachelor of Physiotherapy with Thomas. I'm currently in my fourth year and I'm on a 10 week placement with the Central Coast Mariners. I've always loved sport especially soccer and it's around me to expand on my skills which I hope will take into next year when I graduate. I've all done training so I'm just about to head up to the offices now and meet the new interns. How are you mate? I'm good, I'll give you two of the facilities in here. Sounds good. I see Sean, quite a magic happens in this office. Logan, this is Jacob, Jacob works with Ian here and sort of had me tell Logan a bit about what your role is here. Yes, when I'm in the office I'm here to assist with membership and ticketing and then on game day I'm just there to assist and make sure things come smoothly. Just over here we've got Chloe, Chloe this is Logan. Hi. Do you want to explain to Logan a bit about what your role is up here? Yes, I'm in the membership, similar city, customer service and members. The placement's been really good. I think it's a great thing from the uni to give us this opportunity. It's something that you don't get to do every day and it's good that I can get the industry experience I need as well as including it with my passion of sports and especially soccer and it's great to see what happens at this professional level and it's a really good experience.


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