Sometime ago, maybe at the beginning of the year, 2022, maybe the end of 2021, I'm not exactly sure, but I had some Hebrew Israelites on. You're going to find out why I do not really speak to the Hebrew Israelites. These are people that do not tend to understand either because they don't want to or because they are incapable. I'm not trying to be belittling, but it just is what it is. It's hard to have a conversation with them because for them, in many cases, they feel like or they at least project this, that the loudest voice is the one that matters. The one that tries to dominate the conversation is the one that is going to win. So I'm not really willing or wanting or desiring to have a conversation with someone who either doesn't have the ability to understand or didn't want to. I think maybe it's a little bit of both. I put out a couple of videos dealing with the Hebrew Israelites. One that it was not meant to be all-encompassing in the argument, but just giving an example of why black people solely are Hebrew Israelites because the Bible speaks of in Romans 11, that there is a spirit of stupor given to Israel, that there has been this partial hardening. Not to state that, and I said so in the video, not to state that all Jews, there will be no Jews that will come to Christ, but for the most part, the overwhelming majority of Jews in the world are not going to come. That's what the Bible says. But what do they do? They went to, well, what about DNA and this and that and the blacks and African who are Jews and so forth. That wasn't the point. The point was to say that blacks in America, if they are the real Jews and why do by and large black people do not reject Christ. It's not to say that black people are actually all Christians. That wasn't the point. But again, it's an argument that they either are not willing or capable to understand. I've had some other issues, things that I've said about them, such as their little prophecy that they think they fulfill, that we fulfill as black people out of Deuteronomy 28. But what about eating the flesh of our children? I don't recall blacks doing so when they came here to America. But that being stated, having a conversation with them is rough, difficult. Now, there are people that do that. And I think do it well. I'm just not one who really wants to do so. Now, when they did come on before, I thought that they just did not handle themselves well at all. As a matter of fact, so much so that there are even videos where there are other compadres did videos stating that they should have done a better job in handling themselves and say that this was an obvious answer here or there and they didn't look good. Well, I don't think that they ever do. I don't care if it's the top or the bottom of the Hebrew Israelites. I don't care what sect it is, whether it's IUIC, I think, the GSM. I'm not sure the different names. But there really is no point in having conversations with someone who is not going to listen. But that being said, some people wanted me to put the video back up where I had the conversation with them that I think to me as well as other Hebrew Israelites thought that it was pretty embarrassing for them. So that being said, I'll go ahead and play the video of the clips. A couple different videos put together just showing how some of these Hebrew Israelites just do not understand or have the ability to have a conversation because they don't want to. Not only that, I also have some other clips where I'm given a response or reaction to other Hebrew Israelites not being able to handle the responses given to them by Christians. And so that being said, here is that video that I took down. I want to get over on some things and kind of talk about what they believe. Not what they believe, but their approach. Some of you saw some time ago, about a week ago, maybe two weeks ago, I'm not sure exactly the time where there was a Q&A and then there was a brother that came on who happened to be a Hebrew Israelite. I want to share a little bit of that with you guys and then let's just cover this. All the ones that are believing in him, all means all the Jews, all the Gentiles, all the ones that are believing in him, I mean, I'm sorry, Hina, Paz, Hapistuan, Ace, Alton, May, Apalates, which means all the ones that are believing in him will never perish. The distinction is not made between Jews and Gentiles. It's all, it's all inclusive. In Genesis 12 and 3, that's actually referring to the nation of Israel. In Genesis 12 and 3, right? No, no, you're not listening. You're not listening. Okay, listen, he says, he's talking about Israel. But he says, through you, all the nations of the world should be blessed. So he's speaking about Israel and he's speaking about the rest of the world as well. You cannot leave out going. You cannot take that out. As a matter of fact, what does the word Abraham mean? It means the father of nations. Well, how many nations, how many nations is Israel? That's one. He uses the plural. Is it fine if I can read something real quick? Hurry up. You gotta hurry up. Okay, awesome. So this is actually talking, this is, I'm gonna read Genesis 12 and 3, one more time. Okay. This is, and I will bless, I will bless him because you understand, we're dealing with the Bible. So this is, when it says, I will bless thee, you can say, I'm not saying it doesn't refer to the nations, all the nations, but he's talking about one specific nation, which is the nation of Israel. And how do we know this? Because he repeats the same thing to Jacob, I believe, right? Go ahead. Watch this. Genesis 12 and 3. And I will bless them that bless thee and curse him that curse thee. And indeed shall all families of the earth be blessed. He says that, right? And then, and then let's just go to, let's just go to Genesis 2. Hold on, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Okay. Now, let me ask you a question.  Um, yes, I am a Hebrew-Israelite. Okay.  Well, no, I do understand Hebrew, but if you do, here's my question. Okay. So you understand Hebrew, what is, what, listen, listen to me. You understand Hebrew? I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Hold on, wait a second, wait a second, I'm, I'm gonna let you finish. But I want you to hear this. What does- I want to get the scripture real quick. You can get the scripture after I ask this question. What does Cole Mishpaka mean? Like I said, I'm, I don't know Hebrew to the best of my ability to say that I know a suffatic- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.  Did you not? You just told me that. I gave you two words. I said I know Hebrew, that's why this is the word. I don't, I don't know what to say here and say, uh, how about I say this? Excuse me, uh, or slop you or my bad. If I did say I know Hebrew exactly. I know as much as I do or how much as I need to. do you know a little bit of Hebrew do you know a little bit of Hebrew do you know a little bit of Hebrew okay what does the word coal mean in Hebrew coal you say coal coal what does the word coal in Hebrew you just said the word you what does the word coal in Hebrew mean you just said you know at least a little bit now I want you to tell me the truth because you've been lying to me just the part you just told me twice I'm gonna go ahead and and let you go so I can get everybody I appreciate you so guys here's the thing and this is what happens every time so the word called Mishpaka is all of these families will be blessed all of them all of them the word call is a basic Hebrew word it means all everyone not just these Jews everybody okay and so no Josh listen I got to move on brother like I gave you an opportunity and you didn't give me what I was looking for you didn't give me what you were looking for so this is kind of the standard operating procedures they have their list that they want to go through they have certain texts that they believe prove now what you're gonna find out is they have this inability to understand scriptures the way normal Christians do here's why they tend to read the Bible the way Muslims read the Quran the Quran is not written in any any type of context okay it's not any sort of chronologically chronological order to the Quran and so oftentimes you'll see them if they're looking for a particular word to try to fit there let's say they're looking for you're gonna see this in a second they may look for the word work or faith and so they may think that that word work applies the exact same way in this text as it does that text you're gonna see that in just a little bit and the problem is there's so geared towards proving their point they're not going to hear and this is kind of getting to my point let me just make this abundantly clear in case you don't get this going forward no Christian on the planet really has any any any reason to debate one of these people or I should say the ones who are willing who are not willing that tends to be the over one majority if not all of them why when was the last time you heard a Hebrew Israelite and I mean and what I mean by debate one of those who are up to debate those who I don't know their different ranks and so forth they're not willing to listen and so you would be I'm saying this to us as Christians you would be foolish to try to go in and score points on someone who's not keeping score you would be foolish to try to go in and settle an argument when they're not trying to their only goal is to disrupt now the other day I think it was a day before yesterday I think it's when it was there was one gentleman who has a channel I think he's based out of Seattle he emailed me a couple of times wanting to have me on for discussion no I'm not going to discuss it you guys are not where I am we are two different types of people you don't as we say you don't cut for me I don't cut for you you don't like us we don't like you and so why you seem to be following us or following me I have no idea you guys get to be a little bit insulting and so forth speaking about someone's manhood and and if they're weak or sissy well you tell me how does it seem when one man keeps following and bothering another man I don't know you don't want to know you don't want to entertain you don't want to talk to you but the other day one of you guys leader came on and I was going to be cordial I knew who he was because he put as his as his assigned DEAC deep well he didn't want to say exactly who he was but I kind of had an idea and I knew some some Hebrew Israelites would come on and so if they get on fine as long as they would behave then we can kind of keep it moving we were talking about the Sabbath and some other things and so he came on I want you all to hear a little bit of this and you all will kind of track with me and see if you can understand a bit more of my points so now going back to the previous conversation though this young brother was trying to say the one who did not know Hebrew the one who lied and said he did then he then he lied again and said he knew a little bit of Hebrew his point was that the Israel would be the ones that would have salvation but not the rest of the world well the beginning of of the of all the covenants the one where you'll eventually have the old covenant come into play after this covenant the new covenant is the Abrahamic covenant this is where God tells Abraham to leave his father's house leave his ethnicity so for any of those who are focused on their ethnicity God tells Abraham leave your father your father's house leave your land to a land that I will show you I'm going to make you into a great nation now the passage that we were talking about was Genesis 12 3 where he says I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you then he says at the end of 3 and in you all the nations of the world shall be blessed and so he's clearly talking about all of the different families not just Israel that's what the whole term that's why I'm trying to get him to understand what called mishpachad me which is all the families and so he could not and it would have been fine if he would have just simply said I don't know if we could have just went down this track but the problem is they don't want to let you know that they don't know that's kind of the whole the whole plan for them and so he was just not up to it and I wasn't going to keep entertaining him go to this scripture go to that script you know because you can't keep you couldn't understand script that you want me to go to the first place so this gentleman comes on and he asked a bunch of different questions he he goes back and tells people that I only let him talk just for a little bit and I rushed him off well see if you guys remember this I'll go to his name is is Marco or Marlo I think it's Marco from I don't know was he deacon deacon I forgot what is what his channel is what have you but anyway let's play this and then you guys see if well let's play first okay yeah well first and foremost I just want to say thank you for bringing me on the panel do you believe that Israelites have to keep God's laws well I believe that no one is able to keep his laws not one it's what we're told that no one is able to do so and because of that remember when God gives his his covenant he offers his covenant he also reminds them that they're going to leave and he tells them we know that because this is what I when I bring you back and so he's also indicated that how he's going to redeem them well why would you need to redeem them if they if they won't have fallen so God is going to punish them and so the point of the law or one of the issues of the law it shows us that we by ourselves cannot keep it as as the Bible says there are none good not a single solitary person on this planet black white red yellow Jew or Gentile there's none that's able to do good so I believe that that's clear that there is no body who can keep the law none okay so with that being said can you now let me just pause us here this goes on for for a few more minutes but he's asking questions right and you all tell me am I answering this kids questions am I going down the track that he wants to go he's going to make the statement that I don't answer his question because in their mind every time they talk to someone or I'm killing this Christian I'm destroying this Christian I'm humbling this Christian well do you all see the same thing happening here I'm gonna make this precise and concise so you can get to your next next interviewers or whatever so can you exegete Luke chapter Luke chapter 1 verse 5 to 6 since you say nobody can keep God's law in the days of Herod King of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah and they were both righteous before God walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statues of the Lord but they had no child because Elizabeth Elizabeth was barren and both were advanced in years now so are you are you trying to say that they were because they were righteous before God well the Bible says that they were righteous before God even all the law statues and commandments blameless so do you agree with the text I do I do does that mean they were perfect they were sinless it does not there is no context you said nobody can keep the law though that was that was your statement no okay so what does it mean to be righteous before look and see there is his his fault he didn't understand the words because when it's saying that someone is righteous I don't know how he what he gets is the whole point of the word is that this person is in right standing how is a person like Zechariah or any other Jew at this moment how are they in right standing this part he's not getting and then he's gonna act as though that I am not talking about faith when if you guys listen see if you hear me talking about faith because he doesn't Lord well the law makes you righteous according to the Bible no what makes a person righteous is the atonement that's the whole purpose of the atonement God offers the atonement to make atonement for souls because there is none able to keep the law and so at this law don't make you right no at this dispensation at this point in time they were still under the old covenant and so every devout believer though they may sin though they had faith in what God was doing they stood righteous how do I know Abraham what did Abraham did he ever sin sure he did how was he considered righteous did you ever lie yes he did was he ever right was he considered righteous sure what about Jacob who's a liar what about Isaac they were all considered righteous before God however we've got the scriptures verifying their sins and so these it's not to say they were sinless and that they kept all the law perfectly they did not and so the whole purpose of the day of atonement the whole purpose of their sins being atoned for is because they needed to be they needed a right standing before the Lord and the only way to do so is that there be this substitutionary atonement even before Christ came there was this substitutionary atonement meaning or namely what happened on the day of of atonement so that's all that that was this is a person who was who was doing his very best who had faith in what God was doing and that person was there for be righteous before the Lord like all of us we are righteous we are in right standing before Christ before the Lord okay what Christ has done okay so I just want to make this I know this is your platform I want to respect it so you know before I have to get off because I got my own live stream going I wanted I want to try to try to just get get your viewpoint on so this is Romans chapter 2 hold on let's say this first let me say this first before you go on your platform because I knew once I saw the deal make sure when you're going to platform make sure you say the Christian brother did was not rude to me the Christian brother let me own so make I have nothing against Corey you we have some exchanges on the email and I got respect any Christian who's willing to let some Hebrew Israelites on their channel I have mad respect for a period so this is Romans 2 and 26 okay and then I got a I got a scoot I got a bunch of folks want to come on you said Romans what okay scratch that scratch that then scratch that because the whole question is this you know on your on your show you said the Israelites the law was for the Israelites so when we read Deuteronomy 30 it says that verse one it says that the Israelites when they're an exile this is Deuteronomy 30 chapter 1 I'm chapter 30 verse 1 to 7 it says that the Israelites would have to collectively keep God's laws that is in commandments in order to be returned from exile and brought back into the land I think that at least any Christian would have to agree with the text now let me just pause it for a second because there's someone here who I want to just and I'm wondering I don't know brother if you happen to be a Hebrew is light or not but please don't say things that just don't make sense there is no new covenant just a new commandment learn the difference Christians well I don't know what what the point is that that you're making but if you translate there's no such thing as a new covenant well then we're gonna have to show you taking to Jeremiah 31 and other places of where he talks about this new covenant so anyway I want to highlight that now he is going to act as though I'm trying to get him off now remember guys this whole live was dedicated to other people coming on and speaking asking their questions issues about the Sabbath about one saved always saved about the Trinity anything like that and so he was he acted as though I owed him this this moment remember I stated that I had a Hebrew band not a Muslim band but a Hebrew band but I went ahead and and wanted to bring him on because these guys talk pretty tough right they they really do so let me play some more of him because I want you guys to kind of get a picture of where he's going and then tell me if I'm not answering him for the Israelites it's a requirement for them to get their salvation which the definition of salvation is being brought back to the land and saved from your enemies according to Luke chapter 1 verse 68 to 72 now before I move on he just said the definition of salvation is being brought back to your land according to Luke 1 now we'll go to that in just a little bit all right but I wanted to make make you all aware of that okay let me just go ahead and read it and when all these things come upon you the blessings and the curse which I have set before you and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God has driven you and return to the Lord your God you and your children and obey his voice in all that I command you today with all your heart and with all your soul then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy upon you and he will gather you again from the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you if you're out if your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven from there the Lord your God will gather you and from there he will take you and the lord your god will bring you into the land that your father's possessed that you may possess it and he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your father and the lord your god will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul that that you may live and the Lord your God will put all these curses on your foes and enemies who persecute you. Okay. And so you tell me that means what now? Yeah. So, um, according to this chapter, which is, it's, it's the most high speaking himself. And he's saying that the Israelites would have to collectively keep the law statutes in command, but you see it says that I command you this day. It's no, the law than the mosaic law says at that point, he will gather them from wherever they're scattered, bring them back to the land and circumcise their heart, all of them mean, and they would all be holy. And then the curses will get put on the other nations. I don't think any Christian apologists, theologian or historian could give an example of this happening. This is a future prophecy and most of Christendom would agree to that. So with that in mind is saying that the Israelites, it is a requirement for the Israelites to get brought back to their land and get their biblical salvation, which is being saved from the hands of their enemies pursuant to Luke chapter one verse six. Well, and I'll go ahead and leave it at this. This is a future prophecy that has not, um, that it's one of those already not yet prophecies where portions of it has, has happened where the other parts have not happened because what's also important is verse six where he says that, and the Lord, your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring. He has not done that with Israel yet. This, this, um, covenant is with ethnic Israel only. And so the old covenant, the, uh, the mosaic covenant has only to deal with them. He is speaking about what he's going to do with them. Uh, we've seen more of that progressively revealed as we go throughout scripture. So now you and I obviously we're going to, we're going to different disagree on who's in play here. But listen, brother, I've got to, I've got to go ahead and let you guys go. Uh, there's some other people that are wanting to come on. And so, uh, I appreciate this. Remember, um, uh, uh, uh, what is your first name? That's what I want to know. Well, my mama named me Marco, but they call me Deacon. Uh, minister Corey, as you, as you kick us out, can you at least for your, uh, for your audience? Um, break down. I won't have no rebuttal. I just want to hear your ex Jesus Isaiah 56 and six. It says the strangers have to keep the Sabbath in order to, uh, come make his house, a house, a prayer for all nations. Now I want to stop that because he asked, what was it, for scriptures, I think four or five scriptures that we covered. He, when you hear his explanation, and I don't know if I, if I covered the whole thing or if I recorded his whole explanation, but the way he tells his audience is that I covered one scripture and I heard it and kicked him off. Um, because whatever. Now he came on to cause a problem. Before I do that, though, before I talk about that, let's go to what he, what he talked about, about salvation, according to, according to Luke, uh, one 68, that that refers to someone being brought back to their land. So if this makes sense to you guys, verse 68 of chapter one of Luke, blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he has visited and redeemed his people and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant, David, as he spoke by the mouth of this prophet from, from of old, uh, that we should be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us to show the mercy promise to our fathers and to remember the holy covenant. Now you guys tell me where in that does that happen to, to say that salvation is being brought back into your land. Oh, by the way, what they do sometimes again, they look forward salvation to be saved and think this is, this is speaking about the same salvation that we're talking about. And it's not because salvation can be used in any sort of way. If I, if I rescue someone out of the water and pull them up, that the same word would be used there. Okay. If I pull someone out of a burning building, the same word. And so what these guys do is they probably get a concordance to a word search, let's find this word. Let's find, oh, there it is. There it is. Let's, there it is. So it cannot mean that salvation is for just the Jews only.  Who's writing the book of Luke? Luke is. Is Luke Jew? No, he's not. And so it just seems odd. They don't get that. Again, they don't understand context. They don't understand how to properly exegete. They've learned the word. They just haven't learned how to use the word. Now this guy, you need to understand that he came on with some bad intentions, some nefarious motives.  Okay, cool. I need you to do a huge favor because I'm on this, I'm on this Christian channel right now, trying to get them to bring me on to the front panel so I can gas this dude real quick in the spirit and I'm gonna come right back on here. I'm trying to wreck this Christian panel real quick and I'll be right back. This is great. This is great. All right. So y'all, I tried, man. He got me off of the channel. He got me off of the channel. Well, I was on the smart Christian channel. I was on a smart Christian channel, y'all. And let me show you guys how it went. You know me, man. I just go around messing with Christians, man. OK, so now that's his words. That's why he came on. Now you tell me, guys, let's be honest. If the guy comes on, those are his reasons he wants to wreck the channel. He wants to mess with Christians. Do you think we have any reason to sit and have a debate? Now, in the email, I said, listen, you hold to your views. I hold to mine. And because we're both staunch in our views, we're not going to depart from that. There is no purpose. It would be fruitless, something like that. I can't remember how it was said verbatim, right? So there would be no reason why I would do that. But let me give you some biblical reasons why I know or you should have any of these sort of conversations. Let's go back to the scriptures before we go go for dealing with these people. We're going to go to Proverbs chapter nine, verse seven.   Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Well, so what's he saying? Trying to correct this scoffer, this person who's already against you. That's not going to do anything. As a matter of fact, it probably gets you into more trouble. It may it may come to blows, violence for you to be ostracized. Who knows? But if you're going to rebuke someone, if you're going to correct someone, let it be somebody of wisdom, someone that's willing to listen. Let's let's look at some more scriptures. Let's go to Proverbs 12.   Let's give some more scriptures. The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to his advice. The vexation of a fool is known at once, but the prudent man ignores insults. Now, the reason why that's important that passes up, but a prudent man ignores insults and it's hard, guys. It is hard when someone insults you. It's hard when someone offers these little threats. And when I say threats, they didn't necessarily say the threats themselves. Although they did say that they could that they could see something bad happening to us. And this was in reference to myself and K. Devil, we were talking to Caleb True, we were talking about Hebrew Israelites. And so they're always lurking. They're always around, lurking, see what Christians are doing. And it's interesting that we don't sit around looking for what that what the Hebrew Israelites are doing, what the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses are doing or what the Muslims are doing. We don't do that. But everyone's looking around for us. Soon we're going to do why? Because their father has them doing so. They have the same father. They really do. And so he says the prudent man ignores an insult. Well, what insults are you talking about? Let me just show you, bro. Oh, I'm sorry, by the way, guys. Let me just go ahead. Let me just go ahead before I even get into it. I put the warning up ahead of time. They don't they don't govern their mouths accordingly, even though they know that other people, maybe some younger people might be listening to them. And so you are going to hear. That's why I put the warning up. You're going to hear maybe some profanity. You're going to hear some some slurs and so forth. So I'm just letting you all know ahead of time.  Coming at the Hebrew Israelites, he then teamed up with a this is his channel right here. He's getting a little bit of steam, just a little bit of steam, but he's fairly new on the scene. And he's doing a lot of click bait. He's coming at Geno Jennings. He's coming to have Marcus Rogers. He's coming at the Hebrew Israelites. And that's why I'm here today.  Like you're on some level. Channel name is a contradiction. It's his channel name. The first two words don't belong. Smart Christian. What that's oxymoronic. You cannot put them to in sequence. And this guy right here, Minister Corey Minor, is very minor and not major like the men of God. He's very minor and not major. He's always minor and never major. Understand that? We do a major and never minor over here at the Sikari.  We're about to show you guys how much of a false prophet, false teacher, false minister, false pastor, corn, hater of itself and unbeliever of the holy Bible that this man truly is. All right? How much of a scary as individual of an effeminate borderline homosexual you gotta be to get somebody on your show to tell you about somebody else instead of bringing that somebody on your show and asking them. No spine, no backbone. And that's all Christianity. We have to find a word that best fits a nigga like this because the English language, we can call them all kinds of stuff, but there's no words to really depict just how evil this dude, that's only where I can, it's just pure unadulterated evil. Statement is like that though. I don't respect him. Like it'll be very hard for me. If I seen some, if I seen, it'll be hard for me to really just really respect this guy. Now, what he was trying to say, if I seen him, if I seen him and the other youngster, those are talking, kind of just be honest y'all. Now, this is me. If you saw me, you would do absolutely nothing. You would do what you did when you came on there.  You guys have to figure out how to make your point without being threatening. No one respects all this tough talk. It demeans if you had a point, which you don't, but if you had a point, you are hurting your own cause. The yelling, the name calling, the insulting, you don't have to do that. You really don't make your point track and follow. That's why I said, and I've had conversations with them before, be it in prison, out of prison, all over, and you get nowhere. And afterwards, I have never once had a conversation, never once had a conversation with someone who's a Hebrew Israelite and walked away thinking, you know what, that was a good use of my time. Never did. It was always, we'll look here, black man, this and that, and then it evolved into something that was, you know, a whole lot of high energy and talking like, listen, let's stay there. You stay there, I'll stay there, and if you think I'm misled and so forth, then fine.   He tried to fix it and says no, he said, because he made an apology video saying that the guy said, I ran like a bee, no. He said, you ran, and then later down, you guys didn't see it, but I could see it when I blocked it, when I could still see what they're typing. He called me a bee, nothing before that, okay, cool. That's cool. That shows what kind of person that he is. That's cool with that. Listen, like I said, you can call me all sorts of names. You really can. You can talk about me, my mother, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Keep it moving, buddy, if you think that less of me, hey, more power to you, brother. But let's go ahead and continue. For the statements that he's made. He's one of the niggas that thinks because he talks in a certain type of voice and he uses certain type of words and he's read all these books behind them. I have a cool. What are the certain type of words that I use? What English? I'm trying to figure out what are the certain type of words that I use because I read. You ought to read some books. That would help. You ought to read some books and you ought to get a good grasp on the English language. Now, I'm looking at him, brother, you are not the person who ought to be telling black folks how to be because let's just be honest. I'm looking at you. Somebody white is in your family. You try real hard with the cornrows to try to impress the other darkest being brothers. But why don't you pick up a book? Why don't you read it?  I tell you what, your Hebrew is right. Why don't you learn Hebrew? Do that because then the scripts will make sense to you. Then once you've finished with that, learn Greek. Then they'll also make even more scripts in sense. Before you do that, get a good grasp of English and how you actually read a text. Let's do that. Little job that that makes him better than other people and then his own people. He's the type of nigga that will stick his nose down at his own people because he might be in a certain position in life. I'm just gonna have to ask you, are you? Let me pause. I wanna bring in this conversation that James White had and this guy, I don't know where they dug this guy for.  Now, the one thing people say about James White is that he might be rude. He's not the nicest. He knows his stuff. And no one says that James White is dumb. You're not gonna come away with that. And so I don't know who set this up with this guy but he does not accord himself very well in talking to James White. Listen to some things that he says. And the issue that I have with a lot of them is that they just don't know how to handle themselves with any sort of decorum. And James White has to kind of get on him for that. Able to chill out enough that we can proceed with the other questions or because right now you seem to be dominating and getting a little bit on the angry side. Are you gonna be able to chill out enough for the last question? Brother, let me make this clear though. Okay, with this angry thing. See, also I can understand the, let me tell you, you really slick because you do it a different way. That's a very, that is a very disrespectful that maybe you don't mean it disrespectfully but it sounds like you're saying that I'm being deceptive or something like that. So I've done over. That's what I'm saying. You are saying that, okay. So don't be scared when you see real men being masculine and assertive. Because the Christians, and that's what was on his channel, like a lot of women, a lot of old black women. There's not no strong young men who...  He's calling you guys weak.  Let's just hear him. Supporting his ministry. Because Christianity is full of women and feminine men. And that's just true. You go to any church, it's just women and feminine men. That's it.  You know what I mean? Is that the army of the Lord? Now, I wanna pause. No, no, no, I'll show in a second. I wanna show you guys something. Saying that we were scared to go on his show. You left a comment a couple of days ago saying if you really want smoke, go to his channel. I went to his channel. Did you see how he got obliterated within under 15 minutes?   Like he's just somebody, his channel's rather new. Never really heard of the guy. He ain't no type of Deebo out here. None, you told us to go over there. Someone on his channel was saying go over there and debate him, debate me. Which I'm not gonna debate. And I didn't have a discussion with him. But again, did he obliterate me? I answered all of his questions and he came on and said he had to go somewhere, but we all knew what his motives was. I knew it ahead of time. But then he even said so and I played those. But now he made a statement guys about, and I just wanna show him something about the number of people or the demographic of the people that watch this particular show. So let me just show this real quick. Let me see if I have it up here. Where is it? Okay, here it is. You all see this? This is the demographic of this channel. 61% of the people that watch this show are men, right? Not women. Not that it means anything. Not that it has to, that if it were majority of women, but just, he's just a talker, okay? Oh, by the way, it was kind of interesting guys. If you all ever wonder what was that age breakdown of most of the people. Most of the people in this audience are older mature people. We've got a good amount, 25 to 34, but the majority are from 35 on up. In other words, the grown, show enough grown folks, right? So anyway, I just wanted to pull that out. Now, something I wanted to also show you. He's doing a lot of insulting about me and you guys and so forth or whatever, but I just wanna remind you guys of what he said. Okay, yeah, well, first and foremost, I just wanna say thank you for bringing me on the panel. Before you go on your platform, because I knew once I saw the deal, make sure when you go on a platform, make sure you say the Christian brother was not rude to me, the Christian brother let me on. I have nothing against Corey. We have some exchanges on the email. And I got a respect for you. Any Christian who's willing to let some Hebrew Israelites on their channel, I have mad respect for it, Peter. And I got a respect for you. Any Christian who's willing to let some Hebrew Israelites on their channel, I have mad respect for it, Peter. Any Christian who's willing to let some Hebrew Israelites on their channel, I have mad respect for it, Peter. So that's his work in front of us. Go back and see him talk to his people. I destroyed the guy I have no respect for. Well, which is it? See, I would even respect you even more had you came on here and talk that same talk that you talked to the other people. Call me all those names and so forth. Let's see how I can, how I can port myself. Now, do you all think it would be wise of me or any other Christian to go on to that channel and to hear him, whatever he's got to say? No, so matter of fact, let's consult again the Bible. See what the Bible has to say about talking to people like that. Notice what it says in Proverbs 15-12, a scoffer does not like to be reproved. He will not go to the wise. A glad heart makes a cheerful face, but sorrow of a heart. I'm sorry, I went too far, that's all I wanted to cover. Then how about Proverbs 26-4? Answer not a fool according to his folly lest you be like him. So get down on his level, you'll be seen like he is.  And so what you ought to do is kind of put him in his place. You know what? I'm through, which I'm not talking to you. So now let's go to another passage. Blessed is the man who walks not in the council of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners. Nor, nor sits in the seats of the scoffers. You know what that means? We're not hanging out together.  You've already indicated where you are.  I don't wanna listen to what you have to say. Everything that the Hebrews likes to talk about in terms of salvation, so in terms of their cult, their religion, it is utter garbage. Did you hear me? That should give you an indication that I don't wanna have this conversation. That should tell you, stop coming to the channel. Stop listening to us. Stop listening to me, okay? Now I'll go out on the streets and I'll share the gospel and I saw someone ask, have I ever gone out and that's what I used to do. That was my first ministry, outreach ministry and who I would preach to or people who were receptive. If a person doesn't wanna hear, and this is whether this person is a Hebrews right or not.  The person wanna hear, so I'll keep it moving, right?   Here we have in Titus, let's read this passage. These things, this is Titus 3.9, but avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions and quarrels about the law. You know what they are always wanting to bring up? For they are unprofitable and worthless. For a person who stirs up division after warning him once, then twice, have nothing to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful and is self-condemned. Did you get that? Warped, sinful and self-condemned. So this is not just to me, but this is for people who want to go out and speak with these people, don't do that. Here are the scriptures telling you, do not go and engage these people once you know where they stand. Now, if you find one of them, one lot, a million who is open to speaking to you, who is open to talking and having a healthy dialogue, then fine. Don't do it when he's around his peers. When you got the guy out there who is with the microphone and he's got his buddies around his readers, you're not gonna make any progress. Don't stop and engage him, keep going. They wanna talk, let them talk. Let them talk to their satanic father. Let that be the audience. Most people see who they are. We're the only ones giving these people any kind of time. We might be the biggest reason why they even had any sort of footprint because we're the ones wasting our time when we've got more to do than deal with these people. Now, the biggest issue with these people is that they just don't know the scripture. Let me play this set of videos for you all so I can kinda show you how they just don't know the Bible. He didn't sin, he didn't sin. Let me word this correctly. Abraham didn't sin because it's not a sin to lie to a heathen. I know you Christians are gonna get all messed up about that. So he says that Abraham nor Jacob nor Isaac, they didn't sin. It's not a sin to lie to a heathen. You can lie, but if you lie to a heathen, it's not a lie, right? That even makes sense? Well, that's him trying to cover himself up because he doesn't know the Bible. Can you tell him that he doesn't know the Bible? No, he's gonna think that you don't know the Bible, but that's why all you're doing is bopping heads and you can waste time with someone else, right? Not with him. Faith is a work. And how do you show your faith according to James the Lord's brother? Now, so what he's doing is he's attempting to show that you have to work for your salvation. So what did he do? He went out and found a scripture that had the word work in it. Now, look who the work is about. You show your faith by your works. Now, look at this, John chapter six. He's talking about the work of God. Notice, he focused on the work of God. You do a work search, you come with the word work and there you go. It's verse 29, Christians get so mad. Oh, it's my faith, not by works. Well, works is of the law and work. I'm sorry, faith is in the law. Marco, work your little heart's content, work away. John 6 and 29, Jesus answered and said unto them, this is the work of God. Here's a work. And so this is where he's just, it's sad. Because who is the work of, this is our work, right? Now, you just, this is the work of God. It's sad and disheartening to see someone so lost, so biblically illiterate, trying to tell other folks how much he knows and how little people who actually know the scriptures don't know. That ye believe on him who he has sent. Believe on the Messiah is a work. So we're told to have faith. Believe the word that's used there is faith. The word that's used for work, way is the word that's used for God. I don't say that's not evident. See, that's the problem. You didn't say nobody can be perfect or sinless. You said nobody can keep the law. Now you're repackaging and changing your argument. And so what he's doing right here is he's going over what I talked about and he didn't get it. He didn't get what I said when a person is made righteous or in right standing, not by keeping the law. No, they could not keep the law. They are in right standing by at this point in time, at this time by what happened on the day of atonement. There are things our atoned for and he didn't get this either for how long guys? For one year. It's a yearly thing that kept them in right standing and they had to approach it with faith. The same thing happens now. This new atonement that we have, we have to trust in faith. A lot of people believe that Jesus died on the cross but there is no faith. There's no trusting in him. And so therefore it doesn't matter because even demons believe, right? And so there's a lot of folks that believe, yeah, Jesus died on the cross. I know that, but they have not placed their trust in him. And so they're not safe even though atonement was made for them. Are you with me? Furthermore, Job was perfect. King David was perfect. Job was perfect, King David was perfect.  There is no context. And it says Abraham, Isaac and Jacob committed no sin. It says, therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law who you think is your Lord and Savior Jesus. So he talked about Jacob and Abraham but then he goes to a pastor speaking about Gentiles. If they do the right thing, then he, this guy is funny. Told you that John the Baptist was Elijah in the reincarnation. And they also believe in reincarnation? I witnessed a count. I'm not talking about Luke who came way later, whatever. Talking about an eyewitness, Matthew recorded Jesus Christ saying that John the Baptist is Elijah. Not in the spirit of it. And he is Elijah. Your Lord and Savior said that. You got to deal with that. They try to act like reincarnation is so funny. Technically Genesis is technically not the law of the law. Now here's, I didn't see, here's this, here's a skinny man right here. The guy that wanted to do the talking. Now what he's not doing is doing the tough talk like he was before here. Now this is Eric Mason. Some of you guys may have some issues with him on social justice issues. I do too. But in terms of his doctrine, Eric Mason is actually, he's straight on that in terms of his doctrine. You know what he doesn't do? He's not going to get too insulting. You know why? Because he's going to look and see who's standing right beside Eric Mason. Does it really start exegetically to exes? That's not true. That's just if we're not true in here. Now, Eric just told him the law did, let me back it up so y'all can hear it. And you can't sustain, you're not in, you can't count on. I'm not talking about Luke who can't. No, hold on. Back this up, right? I want you to hear what he said. Technically Genesis is technically not the law. The law doesn't really start exegetically to exes. So he's telling them the law is not in Genesis, which is true. The law was not given in Genesis. You don't have to be the highest level of Hebrew-Israelite to know that the law was not given until Moses gave it in Exodus. That's why it's called the law giver. That's why it's called the old covenant or the mosaic law because that's what it was given, not in Genesis. That's not true. He says that's not true. It's simply not true and you can't sustain that. Now, no more. So what do you do with a person like that? Do you continue to try to rebut this person? Well, you could do so if he's not going to listen. Some people don't know water's wet and fire's hot. Some people don't get it. And so for that, I had a buddy in prison who said that his father gave him a lesson. He said he wish he would have learned a lesson. He said, he said this, when you find a dummy, leave him one. Sometimes people just will not change. Sometimes folks are just dead set against learning. Now, in their case, I don't know if it's a head issue or a heart issue, but it comes up the same way. Their heart might be so against it. They don't want to hear anything at all. Or it could be their head. Well, they just have, my wife said, she's a teacher. She said that some people just don't have comprehension skills, honey. Some people, you tell them something and it doesn't resonate. It doesn't, wires aren't touching, right? So I don't know what it is, but they're off. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Hold on. You gotta read the whole passage. What does context mean? It means read the whole passage. No, it does not. What does it mean? What does the word mean? The word context means. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. Let me answer this question. Let you burn up, man. Now, what he will not do is turn around like they do when it's just them and call all those men weak men. He's not going to do that. I can promise you it ain't going to happen. Just about, do you know what justified means? No, answer the question, man. Every time I ask a question, every time he asks a question, I'm able to go into the Bible and answer it. Every time I ask a question, he doesn't answer the question. Well, because it's like talking to a damn wall with y'all because you're only answering the question. The Maserists injected the information that they... Now, this guy here, as I used to say in the 50s and 60s, this guy's a bup. This guy is hilarious.  I mean, this... I'm trying to control going forward. Into what? Listen to me clearly. I'm trying to. I'm just asking, you said they injected. Into what? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Into our modern day publications. Let me make this clear, okay? Again, even Hebrews went off, our people went off in the Old Testament and began to scribe to the falling God. That's why it tells us in Hosea, the second chapter and the 16th verse, and it shall be at that day, say, of the most time, that thou shalt call me Ishi and shall call me no more Bailey. When you look at that word, Bailey, that derives in your stronger coordinates, you can go there from the word Jehovah or the tetogrammetan. So we began to scribe. Did Judy say it? And James Wise was gonna get on. I have that name in the reference. Back then, the Maseritschess continued it. Bailey? Wait, wait, wait. Bailey is from Baal, sir. That's from Baal. Sir, you think I don't know Baal? Bailey is from Baal? You just said it was from the tetogrammetan. Sir, this is what you need to do, okay? Go, you have your strong coordinates in your strong coordinates. Sir, sir, I don't use strongs I teach Hebrew. Now, one of the things that he's also gonna go ahead and cut it off right there is that he is trying to make the statement that the Maserites came and distorted the tetogrammetan. This is where we get the four letters where we might say it's Yahweh or Jehovah and that that was distorted by the Maserites. However, they didn't start adding, they didn't start coming back and writing these until a few centuries later. So Dr. White reminds him of that and then he says, well, I knew that. So anyway, what do you do with people like that? You cannot, you cannot, guys listen to me, you cannot argue with someone who is dead set against learning. You just cannot. And so I wanted to make this abundantly clear for me. If anyone wants me to debate or to talk to a Black Hebrew Resolute or a Hispanic Hebrew Resolute or any other Hebrew Resolute, nope, not gonna do it. Not gonna, I would rather spend time trying to teach one of the dogs here how to talk. I'd get further along. I would rather spend time trying to figure out how to levitate. I'd get farther. I'm not gonna make any headway with them. And that's fine. I can guarantee you what's going to happen is clips of this will probably be played. These 14 dislikes and probably more to come. Those are from Hebrew Israelites. And so why are you here? Why are you on this channel? What is it you're trying to get? You're not trying to learn anything, 15 dislikes. You're not trying to get anything out of this, fine. Go back to the four or five sites. I don't know how many sites you guys have. Go back to those. Continue to be indoctrinated. We're good. We are, I promise you. All the people here who love the Lord Jesus, we're fine without you. Go ahead and do what you're gonna do. We'll be fine. We'll be fine. Now we're at 18, maybe it'll be 20. You won't outnumber the likes. I can promise you that. I can promise that. And if you did, wouldn't bother me because I know who holds my future. See, I'm a child of the King. I know what Jesus has done for me. I know what my life was like before and I know what he's brought me through.


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Hey everybody and welcome to today's installment of the review for the Alcohol and Drug Counselor Exam. Today we're going to be talking about understanding readiness for change and stage appropriate interventions. So we're going to start out with readiness for change. A lot of us have heard of those pre-contemplation, contemplation, preparation, yada, yada. So that means a person may not be 100% ready to do what they need to do. And one of the things that we want to do as clinicians, and I learned the hard way, is move them from one stage or phase of readiness for change to the next. Don't expect in 30 days or even less if they're in detox for three days. Don't expect to move them from contemplation into action. It's not going to happen. So we want to focus on trying to nurture that seed. The seed is the need for treatment and we want to nurture that to grow so they become ready to act. Treatment planning and placement must take into account how ready the client is for change for all aspects of every single problem. So for example, if one of my issues is I'm unhealthy and I want to get healthy, and that's a poor problem statement anyway, but we're just going to go with it, okay great. So that's one aspect of something that I need to work on. And maybe I'm also having sleep problems and I'm depressed. So those are three different problems. Maybe I'm really ready to work on the depression and getting healthier, okay, that's great. But then when it comes down to getting healthy, you know, maybe I'm ready to start exercising a little bit, but I am not ready to start changing my diet. So my readiness for change for that aspect of getting healthy is going to be different. So we need to pay attention to readiness for change and enhance readiness for change for every aspect of every problem. So the trans theoretical model of change was proposed by Purchaska and DeClemente and it's great. It's enduring. It works for mental health as well as substance abuse issues as well as physical issues. One thing you want to remember is it's not linear. That means you don't go from pre-contemplation to contemplation to preparation to action in this nice sequential step. People will go from pre-contemplation to contemplation and then back to pre-contemplation. And then they may work all the way up to action and it gets really uncomfortable. So then they jump back to contemplation.  So it's more of a jumping around sort of thing. It's not a straight progressive line. Readiness for change differs for each goal and issue. Tip 35 put out by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration called Enhancing Motivation for Change provides concrete stage appropriate intervention. So if this is something that you're a little weak on in your training, it's really important to go review tip 35 and it is a very well written, easy to read treatment improvement protocol. Another part of Readiness for Change is to remember that relapse is the rule, not the exception. And some of you may be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you just said that. It doesn't mean people have to go and go into a full blown relapse. They can have an attitudinal relapse. They can have a part of a behavioral relapse. They can have a slip. They can have a lapse. There's a lot of things in there, but very rarely is somebody going to go into treatment and go through the entire process and not backslide at all. So we want people to recognize that relapses, whether it's a small one or a big one, are opportunities to learn and opportunities to strengthen and opportunities for us to understand why that behavior was more rewarding than the recovery behavior we were presenting. When people revert to old behaviors, their readiness for change drops back into contemplation or even pre-contemplation. So we're going to need to nudge them forward again and go help them see why it's worth the effort and why it's important. Relapse or recurrence does not equal failure or that the client has abandoned efforts for change. It means there was a hiccup, something they didn't expect. Think about when you're driving and you've got this beautiful course laid out and you're driving along and all of a sudden you hit this unexpected traffic jam and so you're like, well, do I really want to go to the mall if I'm going to have to sit through this or do I want to turn around and go back? Well, that's kind of what we're talking about with relapse here. It's something that you didn't really expect probably or you didn't have the tools to deal with, so you've got to figure out whether you want to push through it or go back. So this is an opportunity to learn. If the person decides to go back, if they relapse, we can say, all right, well, when that situation happens again, what are some other options? What tools do you need to strengthen? So the theoretical model of change starts with pre-contemplation. This is when the person's not considering change. They usually have not experienced any adverse consequences. They may be unaware that a problem exists or may be unwilling or too discouraged to attempt change and I've seen this in a lot of smokers especially who have tried to change so many times and it just didn't work and they're like, why should I try again? It's not even going to work. I'll just take my lumps where they come. So pre-contemplation, the person doesn't think there's even a problem. I try to make the analogy of getting into a cold pool and it's summertime and pre-contemplators are laying out on a chair beside the pool. They're not hot. They're not ready to get in the pool. They are just fine. There is no problem. You may see some sweat bubbling up on them and you know that the UV rays are high but they don't feel a problem yet. So what we want to do is provide pre-contemplators, information linking problems with current behaviors or issues and we can do this through education, motivational interviewing and family and peer commentary specifically about the client. So for a pre-contemplator, we may educate them about, you know, when we're talking about substances, how much do people actually use, how regular, how much does the average person actually use cocaine? How much problem could it cause you? Let's look at your assessment and see how many different areas this problem, this issue is impacting you in your life. Motivational interviewing would ask the person, okay, so you're telling me, you know, you've been using, you really don't see any problems. I'm wondering if you can identify five ways that the problem has impacted your life. And family and peer commentaries is when, you know, kind of like interventions when people say, you know, I know you don't see a problem but when you drink, you become very angry or very violent or very reclusive or depressed or whatever it is. That's when loved ones are providing feedback, not emotional feedback, just factual. When you do use drugs or alcohol, this is the influence it has on me or this is the effect that I see it having on you. It is what it is and the person who is struggling with the issue is either going to take it or leave it. So like I said, some pre-contemplators are reluctant. So we need to increase their knowledge of the problem and the personal impact. They may not want to give up drinking. They may not want to think about the fact that they can never drink again or they may not be ready to address it because it just sounds way too hard. And you know, I really don't have enough of a problem where I need to do anything about it is kind of what you're going to hear from them. Rebellious pre-contemplators are using, are afraid of losing control. They're afraid that if they stop doing this that they're going to be miserable and life's not going to be the same anymore and yada, yada, yada. So we want to shift their energy away from this fear of losing control to improving the next moment. So let's not do anything drastic. Let's not do anything rash. You know, let's just try experimenting. You know, maybe try going a week without drinking or smoking or gambling or whatever it is and have them experiment with it. Have them try it out. We're not saying you can't do it forever. You know, so they are in the driver's seat. They're in control. The resigned pre-contemplator is the one who's tried before and just kind of given up. So we want to rekindle hope and optimism by highlighting successes that they've had. Maybe they didn't use for a week or for six months or whatever it was and the strengths that they have. And we can also provide more information. We can talk about, you know, what did you try and learn about what triggered the relapses so then we can provide more information. Maybe they, maybe there are new treatments out or new medications out or new approaches to help the person deal with it. Or maybe they've got a co-occurring disorder that has never been diagnosed and you can see it plain as day and you're like, well, it's not surprising you have a hard time staying clean and sober because you've got, it appears you've got bipolar disorder. So you know, we need to get both of those under control. Contemplation. Reasons to see a cause for concern and reasons to change. They're becoming ambivalent. They may seek relevant information, reevaluate their behaviors or seek support. So back to that pool metaphor. In contemplation, the person starts feeling like they're getting hot and they look over at the pool and they go, yeah, every time I get in the pool, it's really cold and the kids are splashing and it just, no, not worth it right now. I will, you know, fan myself or move over into the shade a little bit, but I'm not ready to get in the pool yet. It's not that bad. So what we want to do is increase their awareness of the consequences of the current problem. You know, if you keep on this path, what do you think the results are going to be? Explore and address ambivalence by tipping the decisional balance scales. And tip 35 helps you learn how to do a decisional balance exercise by helping them see the pros and cons of change. Yep, there are drawbacks to change. We need to acknowledge those and address them and the pros and cons of staying the same. And again, yes, there are benefits to doing what they're doing now, or they wouldn't be currently doing it. So we need to address those, you know, they're serving a purpose. So how else can you meet those needs? If alcohol or cigarettes help you relax because you're just way too stressed or way too anxious or depressed. All right, it's a serving a function. It's got a purpose. So what else can we do to help you deal with those feelings so you don't feel like you have to drink or smoke or use? We also want to help clients address anxiety and grief about change. It's scary, especially if they've tried it before and they failed. It usually dings their self-esteem a little bit. So they may be anxious about trying it again. They may fear that they just can't do it, that it's going to be too hard. And grief, they've got to give up something that has basically been their lifeline for a little while.  So they may have some grief about having to give that up because they have some good memories and feelings associated with it, in addition to a whole bunch of bad ones. So we want to help clients visualize change, just like after we lose someone important or something important to us, we're closing that chapter on our life, but we want to visualize life without that person or thing in our life. So we want to help them visualize what they're working towards and what it's going to be and what's good about it, even if they don't have that substance or activity in their life. In preparation, the person's going, okay, you're right, it's a problem. If we stay with the pool metaphor, the person's going, all right, you know what? I'm getting pretty uncomfortable. So I'm going to go sit on the edge of the pool and I'm going to dangle my feet in and see how that feels. See if it's too cold or if I think I can tolerate it. So in preparation, clients are deciding that, yeah, it's time to do something. Their commitment to change is strengthened and more specific change planning begins. They start examining their self-efficacy for change, which means they start thinking about how capable am I of changing? Can I even do this? They still may be using, but they're also probably experimenting with ways to cut back. So they're trying some things. They're trying to figure out what treatment program they might go to. They're getting their ducks in a row, so to speak. In preparation, we want to help clients identify the benefits of treatment and there are going to be some drawbacks. You know, it can be money. It can be time. It can be childcare. It can be a lot of things. We need to help them address those too. In preparation, we need to help them get those ducks in a row. So treatment is something they can do and there's not a yes, but that's going to get in their way. Identify and address fears and apprehensions about treatment. Some people fear they're going to lose control. Some people fear that they're going to be locked up. You know, whatever their concerns are, let's address them. Give the client a list of options for treatment and that includes not only different treatment centers, but also different treatment approaches and different treatment levels. Even if somebody scores out on the ASAM as needing residential treatment, they may not be ready for residential treatment. They may not be willing for whatever reason. Maybe they've got three kids at home and they don't have anybody to take care of them for 90 days while they're in treatment. So, you know, there may be reasons that residential is not a good fit for them right now. So, okay, preparation. Let's look at what are some other options that you can look at, including intensive outpatient plus meetings or something. Clarify goals and strategies. Help them identify and address barriers to change. If they are living in a house where three other people live there and are actively using, that's going to be a barrier to change. If they are incarcerated because the milieu tends to have a lot of criminogenic addictive type thinking, that's going to be a barrier to change. So, we want to identify anything that might get in this person's way from achieving their goals. Highlight their strengths and past successful strategies. So, they're preparing to make this huge step. We want to build them up. Let them know they can do it.  So, this is what a coach is going to do. This is what we're going to do. We're preparing people to go in for this fight of their life. Help them garner social support, you know, get social support from people that are out there that can send them letters and keep them company that can help them by watering their plants, keeping their bills paid, whatever it is. Continue to have them envision change and find motivating stories from other people. You know, who do you know who's gone through recovery, who is doing really well? And, you know, I, golly, I probably have two dozen people that I can name off the top of my head who've gone through the program, gone through the recovery process and different treatment centers, but they've gone through recovery and they're still clean. They're still sober and they are thriving.  They're fully open about what they've been through. And I can share those if the person doesn't have any people that he can reflect on himself. Identify motivations in each area and create small successes for components of the goal. You know, we don't want to say, okay, your first goal is to be, remain abstinent henceforth and forevermore. That's not realistic. Your first goal is to stay abstinent today. And then tomorrow will address tomorrow. And the next day will address the next day. And before you know it, you'll have been clean for a week. So you want to make small changes. You want to increase self-efficacy, that can-do attitude, and their hardiness. We want them to commit to this. We want them to feel like it's a challenge, but a challenge that they can do. Just like when people start training for a marathon, you start thinking, oh my gosh, 24 miles, that is a long way to run. But they commit to it. They're like, all right, I can do this. And I want people to have that I can do this attitude. And I want them to be committed to doing it, because of all those other amazing things in their life that are important to them. So we say, you want to do this change. You want to get in recovery because you want to hold on to or draw closer to all these other really awesome things in your life. Strengthen their commitment to the process and begin learning about their issues, and they can begin learning about their issues. They can start learning about the effects of abandonment, or the effects that substances have on their neurotransmitters that create sort of a downward spiral mood-wise. And finally, they're in action. They are in treatment. They are ready to do it. So encourage them to choose a strategy for change and pursue it. And this involves a little education, may involve a little bit of experimentation to figure out what they think is going to work for them, especially if they haven't been in treatment before. But let's go. They are ready to go. And that's kind of like at the beginning of a football game, where the coach decides, okay, this is going to be a passing game, or this is going to be a running game. At the beginning of treatment, the client needs to decide, how am I going to approach this in order to win? We start actively modifying habits and the environment. If they're in residential, that's pretty easy to do. If they're in outpatient, then we want to start talking about their habits, getting dangers and triggers out of their environment. We want to start making a relapse prevention plan from the very beginning, so they can start working and living that recovery lifestyle. They may be faced with challenges related to withdrawal and a changing environment. So we need to make sure we buffer against those. If they start feeling cravings really bad, we need to have some method to help them out, whether that's going to meetings or coming to a drop-in center or whatever it is. Encourage them to reevaluate their self-image. Now, this whole process, this action phase, usually takes three to six months following termination of use. So if there's an extended taper period there, three to six months after that, when they start developing new skills, but it also takes the brain that long to rebalance the neurotransmitters so they can think more clearly. They can remember. They can learn easier. All those things that get mucked up when your dopamine and serotonin and everything get out of whack. So the person is tired of being hot. They are ready in action. They are ready to jump in that pool and make it happen. They're ready to cool off and feel more comfortable. So we want to help them implement their plan, help them identify ways to ensure motivation and progress is maintained. And one of the best ways to do this is mindfulness. And we talk about mealtime mindfulness in my practice. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I want people checking in with themselves and saying, how am I doing? What am I needing at this point? And emotionally, how am I feeling? What is my attitude? Does anything need to be adjusted to keep me on the right path? We want people to be aware of how they feel physically, mentally, and emotionally. We'll help them identify triggers, how those triggers could cause relapse, and how to deal with them. And triggers can be holidays. They can be something people said. They can be certain people. Whatever the trigger is for people. Sometimes it can be as innocent, if you will, as a commercial on TV. So what are the triggers for you and how do you deal with them? Provide practical tools in each session and discuss and role play application. So for example, if one of your triggers is the time of day, maybe in the evening, right before bed, is when one of the times that you've always used. So if that's a trigger, okay. What do we need to do or what can you do in the evening right before bed so you don't use? Let's role play that. Let's identify a list of three alternatives that you can do. Address obstacles to change, such as lack of transportation, scheduling conflicts with their job, finances, whatever it is. And acknowledge the client's feelings and experiences as a normal part of recovery. There are going to be good days and there are going to be some really crappy days and that's normal. One of the greatest things about recovery is people start feeling feelings. And one of the worst things about recovery is people start feeling feelings. And you know, they're not used to some of those intense dysphoric feelings anymore. The next stage is maintenance or vigilance. The person wants to sustain the gains made. Prevent vulnerabilities. That means live that recovery lifestyle. Eat a healthy diet so the body can make the neurotransmitters it needs to keep the mood adequate so they're getting enough sleep so they're not feeling like they need to overcharge on nicotine or caffeine or something else. So plenty of sleep, good nutrition, good sunlight. We want to make sure their circadian rhythms are set. A lot of vulnerabilities are there. And on all CEU's education's YouTube channel, we have an entire series of videos on vulnerabilities that people can look at. During maintenance they're going to become more adept at identifying and addressing triggers. There is no way we can identify every single trigger for every single person. So we need to help them become aware of things that might trigger them or become more self-aware of when they're feeling triggered. And how to deal with it. They need to have some general strategies if I start feeling triggered for some reason. The first thing I need to do is. And one of the things I have a lot of clients do is keep a note card with them or on their mobile device that has the number of their sponsor or somebody that they can rely on and two other interventions that they can use if they start feeling triggered in order to maintain safety. The maintenance phase lasts a minimum of six months. And in my philosophy, the maintenance phase really lasts a lifetime. It takes six months for all this stuff to become a habit. But then ideally the person still prevents vulnerabilities and sustains their gains and, you know, is aware and mindful after that. We're going to work in maintenance on relapse prevention, reassuring the client that occasional ambivalence is normal, that some of those dreams they may have are normal. We'll help them evaluate their present actions and redefine long-term recovery plans. So, you know, by the time they get to maintenance, they've been going through treatment for about a year. When they started treatment, they probably couldn't even envision being clean for a year. Well, now they're there and it's like, oh my gosh, look how far you've come. You did something that is so hard and you've accomplished it. So, that's awesome. You know, give yourself a pat on the back. You didn't think you could accomplish this. So, now let's look at what you think long-term recovery looks like. What do you hope for the future? Now that you know how powerful and strong you really are. Educate them about the relapsing nature of mental health and addictive disorders, especially if they've got a co-occurring mental health issue. It may, they may have a recurrence of that even though they're not using. So, we want to make sure that they're aware of the warning signs, the early warning signs of an impending mental health relapse because if they start to get depressed, anxious, if they have a bipolar episode, they are going to be more likely to relapse in their addiction as well. And likewise, if they use again, they're probably going to trigger a mood episode. So, we want to let them know that it's not uncommon to go back to stinking thinking for a little bit and you just have to pull yourself out of it and let's talk about some ways to do that. And it is not uncommon to have a mood episode sometimes, whether it's out of the clear blue or whether, you know, maybe somebody that you really cared about died and you get depressed, that's normal. But how are you going to deal with it? Develop a list of circumstances that may require a return to treatment. Review problems that emerged during treatment but weren't addressed and help the client develop a plan for addressing them in the future. You know, 90 days is not very long. So, if you're talking about the initial phase of treatment, we can't nearly cover everything. But if they've been in the program for a year or more, then they've probably addressed a lot of stuff, but there may be other issues that are still hanging out there, like maybe their relationship with one of their siblings is still on the rocks and they want to address that. And then develop strategies for identifying and coping with high-risk situations because they'll happen. So, we want to make sure that people have a really good relapse prevention plan in place. Teach the client how to capitalize on their personal strengths and emphasize their self-sufficiency. Encourage them to develop a plan for support, including family and community support. So, when you need to reach out, because you're not meant to bear everything on your own shoulders, when you need to reach out, who is there? And family doesn't have to be blood relatives. Family can be anybody the person feels they can rely on. But who are those people? And in the community, where can you go to get support? You know, it can be meetings, it can be church, it can be, you know, any place the person identifies where they feel like they are supported. Prepare the client to maintain positive changes through difficult times and identify potential stressors and challenges that lay in front of them. I've worked with a lot of clients that go through treatment, you know, and, you know, a year, year and a half down the road, they are still dealing with open warrants and legal stuff or financial stuff or divorce stuff. So, we want to talk about those potential stressors and challenges and make a plan for how the person's going to deal with it. Prepare them for changes to the environment because, you know, while they were changing, the environment may not have changed with them. So, they may have to change their environment or deal with people not knowing how to work with them quite as well. You know, it's a whole learning process to engage with somebody who is now in recovery. You know, it's a different person. At the end of treatment, ask the client to look into the future and describe where he or she intends to be six months a year or maybe even three years from now. Encourage the client to enjoy their successes and step back and look how far they've come. Stay mindful of continuing to work their program, whatever that means for them. It doesn't necessarily mean AA. It doesn't necessarily mean medication. It's different for every person. That's why it's called your program. And remain vigilant for relapse triggers, making minor adjustments as needed. Relapse, you know, we said is the rule, not the exception. You jump in the cold pool. It is uncomfortable, so you jump back out. Relapse means falling back into old ways of thinking and acting. The earlier you catch a relapse, the better. It's an opportunity for learning about what triggered it and what things need to be addressed to keep recovery the most rewarding choice. Like I said, relapse doesn't necessarily mean that the person has to go full blown back into use. It can mean that they drove to the liquor store and they sat in the parking lot thinking about going in. Or they started getting agitated and withdrawn and expressing some of those behavioral symptoms or emotional symptoms that they have when they're in their addiction. But catching it then makes it a lot easier to get back on track. A good relapse prevention plan will have strategies for identifying early relapse warning signs, triggers, and solutions. So that's great. Now we know pre-contemplation. We know some of the techniques and things we want to use for clients at different stages of readiness for change. But the first thing we got to do is engage them. So how do we do that? Well, first impressions are lasting. So you want to have a professional presentation. You don't want to walk in and all rumbled stuff and smelling and looking like you haven't taken a bath in three days. So have a professional presentation. It doesn't have to be fancy. It just has to be professional. Be prompt. Everybody deserves promptness because everybody's time is valuable. Be courteous and handle paperwork smoothly.  Have your paperwork ready and be ready to go through it smoothly. That communicates a sense of competence and develops a sense of competence in the client. The environment that you do your assessment in should be calm, clean, and comfortable. And if you share an office with somebody, this can be a little bit challenging sometimes. But you want to have at least your area. Be presentable. You don't want to have seven stacks of papers all over the place and you're constantly looking for a pencil and half the stuff has coffee stains on it. That doesn't communicate competence. You don't want it to be too formal but you also don't want it to be too informal. You don't want to be in there in shorts and a t-shirt but you also probably don't want to be in a three-piece suit. Avoid interruptions and provide appropriate privacy. All of these things will help the client develop a sense of confidence in you as the clinician and encourage them to engage with you because they're like, hey, this person knows what they're doing. Maybe they can really help me. In engagement, we establish rapport and an effective working alliance in which the client feels heard and understood, which means we need to be respectful, non-judgmental, and attentive. Attentive. Let's focus on that. In this first session, you don't want to spend your entire session looking at a computer or looking at your papers as you write and just asking question after question where the client feels like they're nothing but a number. You want to be attentive to them. Make eye contact, smile, be genuine. Think about how you would feel if you were sitting in their place. Motivate and engage the client in identified service needs so help them get motivated to get their physical and to get on the waiting list and whatever they need to do. Engagement puts the clinician in the best position to negotiate with the client about what to do and how to do it. So if they feel confident that you are confident, then they are going to be more likely to listen to your advice. We can present that information. If the client is engaged and has faith in us, we have a lot more leverage. Engaged clients are more willing to participate willingly, be treatment compliant, and successfully complete treatment. It's important in the engagement process to create a welcoming environment. Remember I said not too casual, not too formal, but you also want to be sensitive to the age, gender, disability, sexual orientation, religion, and socioeconomic status. So again, on all CEU's education YouTube channel, we have several videos on culturally responsive counseling services that you probably want to review if you're not sure how to create a physical environment that is welcoming to people of varying cultures. Stigma can also impact engagement. So we want to make sure we dispel any stigma about the diagnoses or about help seeking. Be open about welcoming people. Be open about the problems that are there and help people understand that okay, so you have an addiction.  It means you chose a method for solving a problem. It was not a great solution, but you wanted to live and that got you here. So now let's figure out a better solution to that problem. Expectations can also affect engagement. If they don't think it's going to be effective, they're not going to engage. So we want them to have the expectation that this is going to be an effective program. They want to have the expectation that they're going to have a certain amount of power in the treatment process, that everything's not going to be done to them, that they're going to have a voice in their treatment. And their expectations about the treatment process, if they know what to expect, an individual a week, nine hours of group, whatever, that will help them engage because it's not scary or ominous or anything like that. They know exactly what's going to happen and they're like okay, I can wrap my head around this. And likableness is another factor that impacts engagement. And this can vary based on the client's social skills, attentiveness, and attractiveness. It can be hard for us to engage with some clients, but it can also be hard for them to engage with us if they've got poor social skills. Hopefully ours are pretty good. If we're not attentive, they may not engage with us as well. And to a certain extent, if we are not attractive in their eyes, they may not engage with us as well.  Again, you just have to be presentable. So building the helping relationship, once you engage, then you need to develop rapport or that sense of connection where both parties are contributing to the relationship. You're actively listening.  If you say you're going to do it, you do it. If you say that this is the way it is, that needs to be the way it is. If you don't know, be willing to say, you know, that's a good question. I don't know the answer. I'll check on it and get back with you. So be credible and dependable and respectful and responsive. Respectful doesn't really need an explanation. Responsive is more when the client says, I need an appointment now. I'm in crisis. Or if the client says that, you know, they're having difficulty getting their medication, you don't say, well, you know, send me a note and I'll try to look at it later today or sometime this week. That's not real responsive. You want to give them a date, you know, send it over to me and I'll take a look at it and I'll call you back by 5 p.m. That's responsive. The client feels like, okay, I'm important. I made it onto the calendar. Support the client by encouraging him or her to develop and build self-esteem, appropriately express feelings, and validate and recognize, but don't encourage negative feelings or behaviors. So what does that mean? That means clients are going to be angry sometimes or sad or feel guilty or any of those dysphoric emotions. Validate them. I can see how this would make you really angry, but don't encourage these feelings or behaviors. We don't want to stoke the fire and go, oh, I'd be angry too and let me tell you, you need to do this, this and this. No, we want to say, all right, I can tell that you're really angry and I'd be really angry too if I were in your position. So what is the next step in order to improve the situation? We don't want to stoke the fire of unhappiness. We want to help them improve the next moment. Provide empathy. That communicates shared feelings of hope.  So the client has hope that they're not doing it by themselves and that you have faith in them. And provide acceptance and unconditional positive regard. Clients are going to do things just as everybody does that will occasionally make you angry or not be the right thing. But okay, if the client relapses, if the client no shows for an appointment, if the client, whatever they do, that's a behavior. We can dislike behaviors, but we need to accept the client and we really need to focus on communicating that. There's one client I can remember was just relapsed so many times and it broke my heart every time he relapsed. But he was a really good person and it frustrated me that he kept making these sometimes the same mistake over and over again. And I communicated that to him. I said, you know what?  But I have to tell you, I'm feeling really frustrated that you did the same thing again. And I'm wondering how you got to that place. I'm wondering why you chose to go down that road again. Because until you get to the root cause, that behavior is not going to stop. So accept the person, validate them, be genuine with them. When you communicate, use active listening. Reflect what they say. So what you're telling me is clarify anything that seems unclear. You know, if they say, well, yesterday you said that this happened. But now today it seems like you're saying something different. So I'm wondering if you can clarify that for me. Focus and direct the client to a particular topic when you're talking. So you're reflecting and you're clarifying. But maybe this session is about self-esteem. So you're going to keep bringing it back to self-esteem and summarizing along the way. A lot of clients, especially in the recovery process that first year or so, have difficulty with memory. So you want to frequently summarize. Okay, so so far we've talked about this, this, and this and made these decisions. Now, the next thing I think is prudent to talk about would be to look at this other issue and help them gradually move along. When you question clients, try to make them open-ended, which means not yes or no questions. So ask them questions like, tell me what your childhood was like, not did you have a good childhood? You'll get a lot more information. Focus on one thing at a time. Don't ask six questions and then have the client. Okay, this is what I want to know. One thing at a time. Tell me about how you're sleeping. All right, you're not sleeping very well. Tell me about what that's like. Do you have difficulty getting to sleep, staying asleep, not sleeping enough? Tell me what that looks like. Go all the way through sleep and then move on to the next thing, which may be nutrition or something. Try to avoid the word why, because that can be perceived as confrontational. Why did you do that? Part of it is in your tone, but try to avoid why questions when you're communicating with people. You can say, you know, I'm wondering what made you think of that option. Focus more on your intonation and your nonverbals than getting really hung up, because sometimes you just can't think of a way around the word why, but try not to use why unless you really have to. And observe nonverbals. If clients are getting bored or they're feeling like you're not hearing them, they're going to close off or they're going to start looking at the door. So call out those nonverbals. You know, it seems like we're not connecting really well. I'm wondering what's going on or what I'm missing. Help me understand. Observe nonverbals communicate 80% of what the client is trying to communicate. So that will give you a lot more information if you look at their entire body and figure out what's going on. Nonverbals, you're looking for information and congruency. So nonverbals can tell you if the person is feeling unheard or they're closing off. But it can also, we also want to look for congruency. If you ask them a question, like do you plan to use this weekend? And they say, no. Well, obviously that shaking your head, yes, says yes and saying, no, that's not congruent. And it's generally not going to be that obvious, but we want to look for information there. Rate of speech. If somebody is talking really quickly, it could indicate anxiety or anger, apprehension. If they're speaking really quietly or really loudly, it could indicate, you know, either that they're feeling intimidated or they're getting angry. Look at their posture. Is it open? Is it closed? Is it slumped down and depressed? Look for gestures. You know, I talk with my hands a lot, so I make a lot of gestures. Eye contact is another good thing to look at. If suddenly their eye contact goes to nothing, that may give you an idea that there's a shame issue or you're not connecting in some way and you need to address it. And then facial expressions give you a lot of information. You can tell a lot about how a person's feeling by their facial expressions. When you observe nonverbals, you want to look at their dress and presentation because this can communicate their state of mind, for example. If they are dressed cleanly and, you know, maybe not pressed and starched, but, you know, they're put together, that indicates that they're probably feeling kind of okay. If they are, on the other hand, they look like they rolled out of bed and showed up in what they slept in, that could indicate that they may be in the midst of clinical depression or relapse or something. Dress and presentation can also communicate cultural values. Some cultures don't believe in showing any skin, so, you know, be cognizant of that. It can communicate body image. People with poor body image, some of them will, you know, wear really boxy clothing in order to hide how they look. Other people who are more on the histrionic end may wear clothing that's excessively provocative. So look at what that's communicating about the client's self-esteem and sense of self. Look for bodily signs of drug use, such as needle tracks or jaundice when the eyes, the whites of the eyes start getting yellow. It can indicate the liver is starting to fail. Physical abuse and poor nutrition. So these are all nonverbals that we want to look for when we're talking to clients, not just during assessment, but every single opportunity. This has been an introduction, if you will, into the stages of change and kind of developing, engaging with a client and developing rapport. Review the stages of change and motivational interviewing in tip 35 and brief interventions, which is tip 34. Both are available on the substance abuse and mental health services administration website. Be familiar with basic communication techniques, including active listening and observation of nonverbals. Those will be important on your test and understand the importance of empathy and acceptance in developing rapport and engagement. All of us at all CEUs wish you great success on your exam. Once you're certified or licensed, please remember to visit all CEUs for all of your continuing education needs. We offer unlimited CEUs for $59 for addiction and mental health counselors, social workers and marriage and family therapists. If you're still thinking about becoming an addiction counselor, all CEUs offers the training you need in three different formats. 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