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I went to Santa Fe because my man Elvis Durant, my radio godfather, he got married this weekend. Got married to my man Alex, Alex Carr. I believe the last name is Carr. Okay. But I went to this wedding and it made me say to myself, first I thought, man, I need more gay friends. Yes.  I had to think about it. I had to step back. Oh. Because we talk about identity a lot and we think that somebody's identity makes them the person that they are or makes their level of, you know, or their ability to have fun, whatever it is, has nothing to do with being gay. It's the fact that Elvis Durant is rich. Yes. Okay. It is the fact that Elvis Durant was doing things. Elvis Durant gave away a car at his wedding. He gave away a car to whom? For us, he told everybody to look under their seats.  Right?  But to be honest, I don't even remember how he gave away the car. Because at this point in the night, I was drunk. I just know he gave away a car. Right. To one of the lucky people that he invited to his wedding. That's the level of, that's the level of bawling and stunting that Elvis Durant was doing at his wedding. Is the car in Santa Fe? Because all I'm thinking about is logistics. How do I get the car back? He said he's going to get it shipped back to wherever you are. He said all of that on stage. When the wedding was over, it's like a mariachi band comes through, plays in the wedding.  I have no idea.  Yeah. This is a very progressive mariachi band. Yes. But that was the illest thing about it, right? Forget all of the stunting and stuff. You know, when I read Elvis Durant's book, it's not out yet. It comes out October 1st, I believe. And it's called Where Do I Begin? And he talks about in the book how, you know, finding love, you know, which is one thing that anybody can do. Right? You find love. I think it's tough, but yes. I mean, yeah, it is. And then he talks about nurturing it. He talks about not knowing, not realizing, like falling in love, but realizing it can only go to a certain extent, because at the time you couldn't get married in America. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? So think about that. Like think about how out of the realm of possibility that is if you're a gay person and you find love and you couldn't even get married at a certain point. So think about how fulfilling it must feel to finally be able to do that. And I just was thinking about that. Like, you know, we all live in our own privilege. You know what I'm saying?  And he was finally able to do that this weekend. Right. And I just thought that was, I just kept thinking about that. Like, damn, we really all do live in our own privileges and we take other people's struggles for granted.  Like we have the right to get married and we've had it for so long. We avoid it with our whole life. But some people, that's all they want to do. Yeah, we want, you know, the forbidden fruit, right? You want what you can't have. But you should be able to have it. Yes. 100% you should be able to have it. They're right to get married. Listen, everybody has the right to be miserable. That's the thing. Everybody has the right to be happy. So here's the question. All depends how you look at your marriage. Is it true you guys are married? Is it true that once you get married, you stop having sex? Hell no. Really? Hell no. So that's a gross stereotype. I don't care if it's for everybody else.  I'm still attractive.  Chris. But Chris has always looked like Chris. So it's not like he got married and now turned into Chris. Do you know what I'm saying? She knew he was marrying all the time. That's not true. So do you have sex? Do you continue having sex through marriage or not? Yeah, I mean, I would say it slowed down. That's the stereotype. Maybe this is not you, Charlemagne. Right? I mean, it slows down, but not because of cosmetics.  When you've got kids and your wife is doing other things and you're doing other things, you're busy being husband and wives and fathers and mothers. She becomes practical. You've got to organize.  You've got to take these vacations. You know what I'm saying? Right. You've got to go off for the weekend with just y'all two and just keep that flame going. You know what I mean? So this is what I never understood about like conservative America and their approach to gays, right? Talk to me.   And it's like, well, if you have the opportunity to let them get married and stop all that, why not just give it to them? Let's be clear. Yeah.  Men aren't going to avoid. It doesn't matter what your sexuality is. I understand what I'm saying.  That's why you would assume that there's so much going on, right?  I get what you're saying. Seems like an easy fix. I just think it's about love. I think marriage is the symbol of love. Like it's really making a commitment to somebody. Why? It's not. The idea that it's a symbol for love is nonsense. You think you love someone more once you marry them? It is. At the point. It is letting the government know that you're married so that you can get a tax break. The only thing it is. Not much. You have to love somebody to say, hey, man, you can get half.  I don't say give it up half. There's a prenup. I don't know. What are you doing? Yes, you do. I'm just saying most people in general.  Huh? I don't have a prenup. My wife can get whatever she wants.  You don't have a prenup? No, for what? You don't cheat. You should have told everybody that before you put out that song. Black man, don't cheat if they got the prenup. That should have been the buy line. I don't cheat. I don't want to cheat. You don't cheat because it costs. Nah. That's expensive now. Back in the day. I mean, it costs when you talk about the heartbreak you're going to cause somebody that's loyal to you. You know what I thought about? Man, dudes are more loyal to their homeboys than the woman that they go to sleep with every single night. I won't cross you.   That's the dumbest logic in the world. Yeah, but we ask for less. What do you mean? Your homeboys ask for less. Your homeboy not going to be upset if you hang out with another homeboy. Yes, he will.  What? Hell, yeah. You got weird homeboys, man, for real. What do you mean?   Not me. Nah. Not like that.  You know what I'm saying?  Oh, but that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, yeah.  How was the, how was the cake?  Really? Oh, yeah.  How was it? I ate a lot of the cake.  There we go. They cut it up in little squares. Yeah. And they just had it sitting outside. Yeah. I took a bunch of it. The funny part is the irony is, the only one I didn't like was one that had the cream in the middle. All right? You passed that one. But I bit into it. I was like, I didn't like it. But the cake was good. Oh, you talking about like as far as like putting the bride and bride at a grooming room? No, they won't even do it at all. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of these baker, Christian, Muslim, religious bakers are often like, I'm not doing it, bro. Listen, love wins at the end of the day. I know that should sound cliche to say, but if you love somebody, you want to spend the rest of their life with them, you should have the right to do so. I'm glad that they got the right to do so. And that's the illest part about it. When you look at that, you're just like, that's just two people in love. Yeah. It don't matter about sexuality, the genders. It's like that's just two people in love and it's so clear to see. Love is something that is so easily recognizable. You can just look at two people like you're in love. You know it, it's there.  They're not even gonna last. So you can see both energies, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And you look at them like you're in love. That's all I saw. Two people in love. I think that's the trickiest thing with a relationship is like, it's so easy to confuse like like and excitement. Yeah. Like the beginning is always exciting.   But you actually don't in a lot of times. You just, you just, you're just so excited that there's this new person in your life and that there's this new kind of like challenge or goal and maybe like getting this person to like you. I think that's why relationships fizzle out at that certain point because once that excitement goes away, you got to enjoy being around that person. Yo, that's so ill because I remember the first time Elvis ever told me about Alex and we was getting drunk on the roof of some hotel around here. And he was telling me about this young dude that he had just started dating. He was like, I think I like him. I say, we have fun together. He was like, you know, we got drunk the other night and woke up and it was blood all over the pillow. And you know what they say, it's not a good night if you didn't, there's no blood on the pillow.  Sam Smith. Who was the day that says this? But 10 years later, they happily married. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like love, love. You got to like hanging out with someone, man. You got to enjoy. You got to have fun with that person, man. That's the number one thing for me is I have to enjoy being around you. It can't be a chore. I can't be like, oh, I got to hang out with my girl. I got to want to hang out with you. Enjoy that time. And that's tough. It's tough to find a person as an adult, as an already like made adult. I often think like the relationship you're in is actually more productive in a lot of ways, which is like you guys grew together.  Absolutely. So it's like now you're 40 and you guys have become the people you are at the same time. Yes. But you can't forget that though. Of course. Along the way of the journey, you have to remember that people are growing and evolving. So I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago. She's not the same person she was 10 years ago. Of course, but you guys grew and evolved together though. Yeah, and you got to get to know the new you and I got to get to know the new her. Right. Ever so often. But you guys are instrumental in making that new thing. Yeah. Right?  You're finding new ways to communicate.  When you're 35, right? Like before I met my girl, right? I'm 35. I got a hope that I meet someone who went through certain things in life that just so happens, good things and bad things, and just so happens creates this individual that happens to be. What is it? What is it? Not synonymous, but like. Compatible. Compatible. Yeah, yeah. That happens to be compatible with me and all the things I went through in my life even though we haven't went through any of those things together.  Like I think it's often, I think we look at relationships especially in like New York and LA and we go like, oh you're supposed to wait, man. Like my parents waited forever. You're supposed to wait till you're 30. You're supposed to wait till you're 40. It's like, I don't know, man. I waited 17 years before I got married. For marriage, I'm talking about relationship. Oh yeah, yeah, I got you.  But you can't, and that's the thing you can't predict that though. Like you don't, like if you meet somebody right now and you want to be with them, y'all going to be together. Yeah. No, maybe that's what it is. You know how like, I often find like girls will complain about how hard it is to date in New York City.   It's like, you know how unique that would be a stranger from another part of the world that would just get along with you perfectly. And by the way, that person you meet got the same reservations that you got. They've probably been in relationships before and the relationships didn't work out. People probably broke their trust to be with their loyalty. So all of you both y'all got reservations. So that's how you got to approach it. And I think it's important to like have patience for reservations. Like anything I've jumped into is serious as a relationship where you're responsible for feelings. That's just stressful.  You can make them feel horrible, but you know dudes out here, a lot of us are just like, ah, whatever, she tripping this. That's the whole point of being submissive. Women hear that word submissive and men hear that word submissive and we automatically think you're just pounding down to somebody. All submission means is you're putting somebody else's needs before your own. That's what I'm supposed to do with my wife and my kids. That's what she should do with me and the kids. If it's mutual submission, it's good. If it's mutual submission. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People act like being submissive is so wrong and you shouldn't be submissive. That means you're weak.  Right. Simple as that. Yeah. Yeah, Taylor was saying that they use the definition wrong or they just use it only in the negative way. Yes. Like as if being submissive is wrong. No. I'm opening the door for you. I'm submitting myself to you. There's a fine line between sugary and submission in the negative way. Submission don't mean bondage.  Bow down to your man at all times. No. It simply means putting somebody else's needs before your own. Men should be submissive to their wives. Wives should be submissive to their husbands. That's it. My wife is my number one priority along with my children. Yes. As long as it's a two-way street, then it's fine.  Then you could look like a punk. And you probably are one. But if it's two-way, you can't... Yo, if somebody's willing to do anything for you, it's very easy to do anything for them. If somebody say that again? If somebody's willing to do anything for you, it's very easy to do anything for them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.  You know what I mean? Like, when you know that person, you're like, yo, I need this stuff. I got it. Don't worry about it. The second they ask for anything, it's like, don't ask me twice. Who are you telling? You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, absolutely. And, by the way, don't even ask me because you know all I'm trying to do is make you happy. So if you want something, just get what you want because I'm easy breezy. I'm not trippin'.  So let's just make it easy for the both of us to make the decision, please. I'm submissive as a motherfucker. I'm at the point where anybody who knows me, they know to ask my wife, is he going to be there? You know what I'm saying? Is he going to do this? Just call me. We'll make it happen. Like, yeah. I'm cool with that. I think there are things that you have to be assertive about, though. I think it's a balance, right? I think, like, is that yin and yang shit? It's like, yeah, I think your girl needs to know that you're submissive in certain areas, but she needs to know you're assertive. You put your foot down in certain areas. Anything like for Def I handle. Anything that's serious, you know, going to the wrong place. I'll give you an example. I remember being a Grenada one year.  You know what I'm saying? We rent the boat, we be out on the boat, whatever, whatever. Little light yacht, something like that. You know what I'm saying? But for this particular moment, we hadn't met the people. Light yacht? We hadn't met. I ain't gonna let you think I got a boat. I never been to Grenada. The first time I went to Grenada, I went because, you know, a man in the sales room from Grenada, she invited us to go. We went to Grenada. So I didn't know the people to, like, rent the boat boat. So I was just talking like, yo, let's do a Sunset Cruise, whatever, whatever. And they pull up in, like, some... Dingy. Yeah! With the motorbike, but I'm looking at this shit, like... Nah, nah, the motor's out. And my wife was like, let's go. And I'm like, nah. Nah. We're not doing all that.  And then we might have all drowned. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So, but little... I'm saying it's things that are life or death, things that...  They did... I don't want to say naive because naive isn't the right word. They just don't see a lot of the dangers that we see because they're not looking for them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck... When I walk in a room, I'm automatically looking the way to shoot at that. Yes. She's right. Yes. In this room. She's not doing that. Yeah. You say what? She said you to do that. I can't hear you, Taylor. She's saying she looks at you to do that. I love how Taylor's staying off the microphone. I'm glad you listen to SoundCloud comments. Thank you, Taylor. We almost read... I did not want to do this, by the way. I did not want to put you through that. But Taylor was like, let's read the comments that happened on the SoundCloud. I love comment creeping. But listen, I just want to say Elvin Whedon made me want to get remarried. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. Because financially, I'm a little bit more better now. And it's really just fun. And I think that, going back to what we was just talking about, when you've been with somebody for so long and you're growing and you're evolving and you're constantly growing to love this new person, you know what I'm saying? Because like I said, I'm not the same person at 20. I was at 30. Now I'm at 40. And it's the same with her. So it's like we're constantly growing to love these people that we are. It's like, why not do it again?  Dude, I love saying mariachi.   I want to give away a car. I want to have donkeys walking around with shots of tequila on their back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to take a shot of tequila off the donkey. You know what I'm saying? Dude, it's so funny. I want to walk into a hotel and say, I don't like the carpet in here.  Because it's your big day.   So he really bawled out. Man, come on, man. Dude, I was talking about... Come on, man. How to do a wedding. And I'm very fortunate, right? Because I'm in a creative field.  I got these podcasts. I got these different products that I can do. And I've... So I never felt a certain way about the wedding because it's like, I already have all these products. I don't need to, like, take that on. If my girl wants to do that when the time comes, go for it. I got you. This is your day. Just flex. You know. And I often feel like people who don't have those creative outlets, when the wedding comes, they're like, oh, no, I got some creativity.  That's a good point. I think it happens. I feel like I dropped the ball. You know what? You did. I was there.  Yeah, it was basic. I wasn't involved, though. It was basic. It was authentic. Yeah. And there are, like, distinct moments I remember about. I remember Kinte trying to give a speech.  Stupid. But that was hilarious. You know what I mean? The wedding itself was very pretty. You know what I mean? The ceremony was a cult. Reception. No, no.  In the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, yeah, whatever it was. Anyway, point is, in the town that you did it in was right. If you ask me. Yeah, it's home. That was romantic. It was beautiful. But, um. But you can start. I can start a little harder. It's a different thing. It's a different thing. So like, so the other day, we're just having this conversation just about weddings in general. I was like, what would you do with a wedding? Right.  If I was to do something, let's just say, I think I would like recreate a kind of burning man situation right where it's a weekend. I tell everybody the rules and the principles.  We rent out all the land. And we have a place where people can stop. And you have to pick up your supplies. Now, we pre-purchase all the supplies and they're there, but you have to grab what you think you're going to need for the next three days. And everybody's surviving on their own. That's for the wedding. This part of the lake. So I'm going to have all the water, the food, this kind of that you go stop there. We're going to grab it. And then we'll have tents that aren't fully set up yet. We're going to put a couple rods. We're going to do most of the setup, but you need to be invested in your survival.  I'll have a few things that that you know are going to happen. But I want to have like secret events that like people find out about four in the morning by the water. Basically you want to get married at a burning man? I want to recreate my own and have like my friends and like have a bunch of people who are aware of it and people who aren't and have people get lost in it I have enough attention on a regular basis. I don't need it to be about me, my wife. It's not about just about the bride.  What you'll realize is weddings are for your significant other. Yes, it's for her. They're not for you. And I'm totally okay with that. And I was like, listen, that's just me if I was to throw it out. It's for the larger family. That's what I'm describing. Sounds amazing. But it's not a 78-year-old aunt has to show up. No, no, no. So, I'm not coming to that. So, what Chris and Charles are saying is like... But I'll send a great gift. Could be a cool bachelor party. Could be a cool bachelor party.  Bachelor parties for people who never got pussy though. No, bachelor parties are for your friends. I have no bachelor party for where my life has been a bachelor party. Yeah, but like, it's not for you. Yeah, but they do get pussy, but they married and they're like, yo, let me just live this life one more time. Oh, okay, okay, okay. One weekend, we're going to Vegas.  It depends what floor you own a hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a hype thing. It's really altitude.  Well, you didn't... You didn't want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't really have anything to do with that. True. True. Yeah, I think that's faithful. Nah, I can see you for it. Anyway, I just think it'd be cool. But I agree with you, Chris, it's like if you're accommodating family, that's not the one. But I'll be honest, I feel no responsibility to accommodate family in a wedding whatsoever. Me, me, that's what it becomes about. Yo, that's what it becomes about. I think if your girl wants it to be that her family is paying for it. Because remember, back in the day, the family paid for it. So I was like, you better believe we're going to have a say. We're putting up all this money for it. It's the dowry, real talk. But now, if you're doing everything for a wedding, I'm paying for the wedding.  Like this is just the people I want to be there. And the people that want to be there. Don't do me no favors by coming to my wedding. That's why I'm getting married.  I'm getting remarried in five years. Destination wedding. Destination is great because it weeds out the people that don't want to go. That Santa Fe is perfect. And then you could ball out because you just... Oh, don't go to the Anguilla. Regardless where it is. But you could ball out a little bit because it's like, hey, listen, if you wanted to put all this money up to come here, you could afford to get here. Boom. Then you're supposed to be here. That's it.   It's called full circle. Gay weddings are amazing. Really? Yes. And what's so funny, I was... Both tuxes? What's the gender dynamics? What's the gender dynamics? They both had on suits. Both suits. They both had on suits. They both had on suits. What's so funny is I met... I was with Angela Rye. We was in D.C. Friday because we've done it for the Congressional and we were celebrating this panel about can cannabis license and be used for drug war reparations. But Angela had this brunch and it was these two women in the brunch. And I was just randomly talking to them. Just having a conversation with me and my wife. We just talked to them whatever. And it was like, we all had it. We were like, oh, we got to go to Santa Fe. And she was like, oh, we love Santa Fe. Yada, yada, yada. And I was like, yeah, man. I said, I'm excited.   And I'm like, oh, I didn't realize why did I just randomly bring up that we was going to a gay wedding? Because it's a unique experience. But why don't I just say a wedding? Because it's a unique experience. You can always talk about unique experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. You're right. And here's the thing. By going, you're supportive. What do you mean?  I didn't even think nothing of it. I just love Elvis Durant. That's what I'm saying.  There's no inherent homophobia in it and marriage of two men. Yeah, I just love Elvis. I mean, yeah, you're right. It was a new experience. I've never seen that. You know what I'm saying? But think about this. It's not just a new experience for me. It's a new experience for America. Yeah.  Like four years? Three, four years, maybe? Has it been that long? Around 10 maybe. No. No, it's not federally. Yeah, federally. Federally. Yeah, it's only a few years. Dude, I watched this movie yesterday called The Goldfinch. I've seen that. But ain't Murphy? No, no, no. Got you. Got you. So, it's a bunch of movie Goldfinch, right? And a new movie coming up.  But it's, how do I say it? It's funny when you don't even, I don't know how to even word it. It's funny when you realize your own bias. I basically realize my own bias. Explain to me. Talk to me. So, I watched this movie and part of the movie there are these two kids. I think they're maybe like middle school, maybe like freshman and high school, right? And the movie jumps around in time a lot.   And there's this one scene where one of the kids is going to run away from home and go to New York.   And he's about to get in the taxi and leave and his friend walks up to him and then kisses him on the mouth. Right?  They're kids.  Do you need to show them the fact that they was a couple before? No, no, they were like, and I was like, what are you throwing this in here for?  So you're kissing what I was gonna say? You got me too. There's one way of looking at it like that, right? And I'm sitting there and then my girl's just laughing. And she's like, I'm drinking and doing drugs and drinking. Drinking vodka.  Exactly.   And the second they kissed, I was just like, conditioning though. Why would you let kids do that? Conditioning. Is that what it is? When you grew up and you hear Eminem say, what did Eminem say?   Like it's conditioning. That's all. I think it's changing though. I mean, just watching my own kids, they don't, like every... Because it's the new normal. Exactly. So every year, three times a year, they get to choose their pronouns in school. 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Free phone requires port in additional terms and conditions apply. Visit boostmobile.com. All your nearest retail are for details. Okay? Now, Chris? Listen, maybe I shouldn't start out with saying that's so dumb but that's usually my... Well, let Chris finish this point. Yeah, yeah. So go. So let's educate us on this pronouncing A or the or... I don't know if I can educate you. All I can say is that that's something that they each do three times a year and they don't really think it's a big deal. So three times a year. Right. Everybody can flip their gender. Right. I think the idea is they're trying for somebody... because kids change as they grow and I think they're trying to make the opportunity for somebody who changes their pronoun. We need it. Okay. So Sam Smith came out this week as non-binary, right? Yes. Explain to the people what non-binary is.  Well, we had a... You don't think you're male or female. Yes. You just are. Last week we had a... He's not asexual because he's got a boy. Well, here's the thing that's interesting. You're non-binary, right? Once you're non-binary, meaning you're not male or female, you're no longer gay, buddy.   We had... Last week we had my man David Johns. We had two people from the trans community, Nyla... Nyla some... I can't remember Nyla's last name, but Sleuth and Nyla and Carmen. I can't remember Carmen's last name either and we have Malik Yoba and they were on and they were trying to explain to us the trans world and the language and the lingo. Trans different. I'm trying to understand this non-binary. They were talking about that too because that's their whole thing and a lot of women were mad because I think it was David if I'm not mistaken. David said that there's no such thing as gender. Gender is a social construct. Gender is something that is assigned to you by doctors, right? Okay. If I think deep enough about it, it could be a point there. Let me explain for everybody to jump down my throat. Gender is a label, right?  Right. Whatever. Male. Male. You're born. You got a vagina. They call you a female.  Those are just names, right? So gender, yes, that might be a social construct. But sex. Biological. Exactly. The sex of what you are is not a social construct. You know what I'm saying? Right.  And I saw a lot of women saying things like so I got overreached for no reason. I get periods for no reason. I can get pregnant for no reason. Like you can't just take away our identity. So he's separating the way you feel and what you physically are.  Right. Gender is putting color blue for boys and pink for girls. That's all social country. Exactly. And you know what that is completely right. Social country.  Look what Harlem did. Yeah. All of a sudden boys became pink and girls I think probably still did pink but it doesn't matter. We add those things. Now those things are indicative of traits that you see in the sexes. For example you often see a more nurturing quality in girls like they're not playing with dolls because they want to. They're playing with dolls because they have a natural instinct. I wonder about that though. But they've done these I wonder about that. They've done these studies two daughters that hasn't stood up with my experience. I don't say I wonder about that. But they've done extensive studies. They've done extensive psychological studies about you know what kids will do with them these types of things and like you know if you give the girls the dolls they'll start like making their hair and they're so like petting them. And they start making them fight each other and then they break their arms off. Like every guy knows how to take the he-man character's arm out of the socket. What if you don't give the guy a he-man what if you give the guy a Barbie? How would he treat that Barbie? Because Barbie got bigger tits than Barbie. You know what I'm saying Barbie is a woman maybe I don't know. I don't think he would. I think that they I think that there's a natural proclivity for most people not all. What if you make the Barbie scissor? If you what? She makes the Barbie scissor. Oh I did that for sure. Definitely. Them long legs. I mean you're definitely a cisgender heterosexual. What I don't understand is this and again I would love to have someone here to get us to talk to talk about it but how do you not feel like anything about it? How do you know what you feel like? I don't feel like a guy. I just feel like I feel. I've always wondered about that.  I ask women that. I'm like is it a fending when a person says I feel like a woman?  Yes. Meaning?  Why you say that with such confidence? Like you just know. Like you been there and came back. So here's the question. You died of Lyme disease and saw it for a little while. Swam back up over the oil.  I had a crazy thought. You wanna know this thought? I think I was tripping.  Yeah. What if like, you know reincarnation where you live again? Yeah. So like when you die, apparently you see this white light. I heard about it. Okay. Now what if that's actually not a white light? What if that's reincarnation? And that white light is just all the sperm that you're swimming towards the egg with. Yeah. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Yeah. Right? So he said, tell me. Yo, tell me that. Don't make a little bit of sense. Swimming through com. Right.  Who's going? That's it. Right?  This could be it. Yo, that makes so much sense. You could be running it back. We're swimming it back.  That's all over a baby when they come out to poop? Yes. You know what it is. Placenta. But it is like the same thing. Prebirth?  I like Andrew Stair. Yo, dude, that's your dad's cum. That white light is sperm, bro.  So that's what I'm saying.  Here's another crazy thing. Here's I've had a couple of crazy thoughts of late. OK, I'm watching this building go up in lower Manhattan, right? And it's blocking the view of this other sky rise.  Right? That you bought this probably million dollar apartment and all of a sudden, another building's coming up and just completely blocked her view. And then my girl goes, that's why you got to check for the air rights. And I go, what? And she goes, yeah. Some people own the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember, first of all, how absurd is that? That you can buy the air. Yeah, that's why certain buildings will only let you build up to a certain height. Because they purchased the air. Who do you purchase the air from?   Real talk. Yo, God wants to know, Jesus. Real talk. All right? The devil down there.  Son! Son! How absurd is it? That's what God would say to Jesus. Son! Son!  You can't sell the air, Jesus. You can't sell the air. Yo, real talk. In that moment, I'm going, oh, that's how you become a billionaire.  Right? You just invent money. When you sell air, you're inventing money.   What's cryptocurrency? This motherfucker's just inventing money.  Why?  We have no clue. All right, now what do we spend it? I don't know. What do you spend Bitcoin at? I don't know. I've had a lot of smart people try to explain it to me. Me too. And I don't get it. I can't even for a second to get into comprehendance. I don't get it. But isn't this great? Like, we can invent. The whole idea of real estate is fake. The whole idea of borders. Look, I was in Yellowstone. I was reading. I think it was Crazy Horses, a book about Crazy Horses. Yeah. And one of the biggest issues. Explain Crazy Horses again. Crazy Horses is one of the Indian leaders who fought back against the white expansion. And one of the biggest problems was the Indians or the Native Americans had no concept of the idea of a border. The whites would say, this is the border. They said, there's no. We go where the buffalo goes. When a buffalo goes there, we go there. This is all of us. Maybe we stop at the lake. Yeah. Maybe we stop at the mountain. But this is the line that we can't cross. And you own this. They didn't understand. Chris. It was fake to them. Dude, Chris, everybody goes like this. And this is kind of a joke about this. But everybody's when the Europeans bought Manhattan for the Native Americans. So everybody talks about how the Native Americans made this horrible deal. Because they traded Manhattan for a couple necklaces and some shells and some pearls. What idiots? You have to understand the Native Americans thought they won that deal. Why are you calling them idiots? They didn't know any better. No, no, no, no, no. They thought the whites didn't know any better.  Right. Right?  We've got free pearls. We have free necklaces. Because you think, no, we can own land. And they found out very quickly that you can.   Or not even willing to buy, willing to use. That's what social media is. OK, keep going.  Let's give them something to do.   Because we have nothing. Followers likes. That's it. People buy followers and buy. That is imaginary. That's air rights. No, it's not even air rights. I'm actually buying the rights to your ego. I'm feeding you ego.  Here you go.  Here goes your Facebook. Here goes your motherfucking Twitter. Here goes your Instagram. Can you pay rent in ego? No. Can you pay by food in ego? No. But we're still willing to pay for it. Yeah. It's like, does your daughter's ever play any video games where you can buy things within the video game? Yeah, that's how Fortnite is. My daughter's don't play it. That's how Fortnite stays rich. Think about that.   Like, when I buy a hammer, at least I have a hammer. I don't know how to Fortnite. No, no, you've got to think, though. Fortnite to these kids is a world. So if you can buy, I think they call them skins. So if you could buy your Fortnite character a hat, or buy him a new dance move. We're living in the simulation now.  Talk to me. I can't strive that with me early.  I was like, no, I'm not buying something that doesn't exist. That doesn't exist. But we do it, Chris. The cure for Lyme disease wasn't on the game. Just because. I'm selling the air race to all your houses. Why do you think real estate is not a thing, though? It is, but it's a social construct. I mean, you could say. No, I think it used to be a social construct. Well, we've come to accept it as a real thing.  It's something that a government or a group of people. I'm reading a book, a very interesting book called Boom, which is about the year the Oklahoma Thunder traded hard in, but also about the founding of Oklahoma City itself, which is insane. I don't know if you guys know about how Oklahoma City was founded. This is an interesting story.  So basically, it was Indian territory. And this is about 1870, 1880. And it was Indians who admired it. They forced the Seminoles out of Florida, all these different groups. And they forced them out of what's now basically Oklahoma. And you have this wide open space that nobody's occupying in theory. So the federal government decides, on April 24th at noon, 1889, we're opening it up. And whoever comes and grabs the land, it's theirs. Now, the Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma Sooners are the football team, the college football team. And the reason they're called the Sooners is because they wanted to be there first. They wanted to get there soon. Were their Native Americans still on the lane? No. The Native Americans were kicked off, but they basically settled to all the whites. And I guess some blacks, too, at the time. That was pretty much like 100%. It was 100% white.  Because that's how she used to work back in the day, right? But there were people that actually camped out. They were hiding in trees. They were hiding in caves. Because you weren't supposed to start till noon. You had all sorts of outrageous cons designed to get there first. There were guys who were going to fly in on balloons and drop themselves in the middle of a Oklahoma City. It was like people buying Yeezy's. Yes, dude, they were lying down. They just camped out when first Jordan dropped. So they did that, and that's why they're called the Sooners. So at 12 noon, somebody shot off a cannon, and you had basically 100,000 people rushing into this area that claims, that's literally the claim. They put the stake in the ground, and you could claim a certain amount. But there was no government in there to organize it, right? Geez, thank God for real. It was the disaster. So you had armed groups facing off, and somebody would claim this piece, and then they claim it. And it was like, you could kick your spike out? Like, who's the official to say they got here first? No official. And then the people who tried to claim to be the officials, well, that was challenged, right? I mean, the way the book put it is, it's like if you were trying to think of the worst way to start a city, this is it. Like they literally picked the absolute worst way. And then it slowly sorted itself out over the next. And Burning Man, every year, that is the process. What? The map is set up. So how do they avoid what happened in Oklahoma City? It is, that's why it's the most fascinating place on the world, man, for one week.  Well, the states are a lot lower because you know you're leaving. You know you're leaving, exactly. Whereas in Oklahoma City, this was every loser in America's chance to finally get rich.   Well, let me tell you something, it's amazing how they keep records of stuff now, like, because it's actually a piece of property I'm trying to purchase now in South Carolina, and I thought I all but had it. And now it's like an old document that popped up, and they're like, hey, this is his property, so they gotta contact everybody on, I'm talking about everybody, some are living, some are dead, to make sure that nobody else wants this property because they have first right a refusal on it. You understand what I'm saying?  Yeah, it's crazy. And it's crazy on some level that like, once it's yours, you just get to keep it forever.  I'm like, apps, man, listen. Look, that's how you build wealth, but it is also how you build disparity, right?  And that's the story with Oklahoma City, right? There was a fairly sizable black population in Oklahoma City.  They knew they had to stay back. You don't think it's possible they just showed up late? Sorry. Anyway, go on.  I'm not giving up no land, cause- You shouldn't. Cause, and I'll tell you- No, no, no, no, no.  When you don't have it. Bro, it's a little unfair, man.  All right.  Nothing was handed to me.  That's what I'm saying. So- And both, we both took career paths that had nothing to do with what they were doing. Correct.  But- You more bottom than me. I had, I had, I came from privilege. My parents, you know, supported me. They paid for my college, I had a huge advantage on a lot of people. But you didn't go to school for comedy. You know what I'm saying? But I'm talking about like as far as like- Earning in my career, I got that. Yes. When we talk about racial wealth gaps in this country, the reason there's a racial wealth gap is because systemically it was, they made it hard for black people to obtain wealth. Systematically, yeah. Yeah. This is the best argument for reparations in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.  But we were talking about land. And you were gonna say something about land, but you were like, I'll do it off there. That's what happened in Oklahoma City. Eventually there was an African American community that got established. But it hemmed in the white, Oklahoma City, everyone ran to the center. And then when all the spots, they wanted to push out.   Could that possibly have anything to do with, and maybe we transition and it reminds you of it, with the summit that Diddy put on? No. No. I was just talking about, the racial wealth, I guess I was saying I'm not getting rid of any land. He's the only way that you close that divide is that you start increasing generational wealth. Yeah.  That's how important land was. Whenever I'm out the country, man, I'm having conversations with just random people around the pool or on the beach.  They're like, yo, I got a land lease. And it's just, Walgreens is on my property and they pay me $8,000 a month, 10 grand a month.  Because to me, that's where you get your money. You know what I'm saying? Well, you sign in a hundred year lease. When McDonald's comes in, they... 15 year lease, 30 year lease. Oh my God. 100. They'll sign hundred year leases. Oh, McDonald's is a real estate company. People don't realize that. Right, they own everything top the bottom. McDonald's by the ownership. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're one of the most brilliant companies in the history of like humanity. Absolutely. But because they're vertically integrated, right? They own the farm that they farm the produce on all the way to the brick and mortar location where they sell the burger. That's a goddamn lose.   Hell yeah. They're not licensing it out, but I get what you're saying. It's like, when you see the people who have made money, look, we're not making any more land.  Absolutely. But you guys don't worry that there's a bubble. Like I keep feeling there's a huge real bubble. So here's the thing. There's a huge real estate bubble, undeniable, right? But these billionaire motherfuckers, they don't care about a 10 year drop. This is a 50 year game for them. Like look at all the people, like even in Brooklyn, right? You live in Brooklyn. You see these neighborhoods in Brooklyn that these communities went in, bought up factories that nobody was in 40 years ago. And now to sudden they're like luxury apartment buildings in Williamsburg. And you're like, oh, that's the game. The game ain't, let me try to double up in five years. The game is my kids' kids are gonna be multi-millionaires because of what we scooped up now. Why do you think it's gonna be a real estate burst? What do you mean by that? Oh, it's coming down, dawg. Well, I'm gonna say these are the people who are gonna have the problems. The people who are buying land and buying property but taking loans out to get it. I don't do that. When I buy my property, I buy a cash. Yeah, I mean, that's a different story. You're in a different game.  Really? What happened? Because we was on the phone talking about a piece of, we own a piece of property in Montgomery that we've had for years and it's so much development around it right now. Like I already see the vision and I know what's about, I'm like, a gas station has to be here. A convenience store has to be here just because of all the new neighborhoods and stuff that are on this property. So it's a piece of property next to my mother's desk for sale. And they told me the price. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna get that. Let's just go ahead and have the whole or acres. And I'm talking to her. She's like, why, you know, why do you want it? I'm like, why not? And she was like, well, what do you see for it? And I said the same thing I just said. I mean, I'm like looking at all the development around it, all the new neighborhoods and I'm realizing that the nearest gas station is four or five miles down the road and then two, three miles on the other side. So it's gotta be something smacked up in the middle right here. And I just could hear her, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can see that too. So now she's trying to buy my mom's property crazy. Like they like name the price. Oh, now they want to buy it. Yeah, we not, I know what's about to happen.  I know what's about to happen. I know we not sell, we keeping it. We'll do a lease if something comes and I want the other piece of property. You know what I'm saying? Now she's talking to me and I was telling her about some other properties I own in most corner. And she was like, well, you know, if you're looking to lease out that one of those buildings, you know, like it could help you with your mortgage every month. I'm like, I don't have a mortgage. I don't have a mortgage, I bought this, cash.  And I did not mind telling her. She tried to play me. All right.  Why did I tell that story?  This is, this must be pretty cool for you guys.  It's not, it's kind of odd. It's like- We gotta live our truth. No, no, 100%. But it's such a crazy experience. When you start this podcast, Star Shame Enterprise, first episode ever. With Jazz Fly. With Jazz Fly, shout Jazz Fly. With Jasmine Waters.  And now we're talking about like real estate and land purchases to set up like future generations. This is a crazy journey. This whole thing.  Oh, for sure. But the truth to the matter is- You gotta spread this wisdom, bro.  So they don't never have to censor theyself for a second. All right.   Y'all can't stop my bag if you try. Cause I don't get just my bags from this. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes.  Let's go.  Cause I don't think either one of us try to offend people on purpose. But when you're trying to figure things out and you're having conversations about certain things and you're discussing certain things, you may offend along the way.  This and that, whatever, whatever. You don't even gotta worry about that. You know? You can't cancel me if I got 50 mil. You can't, you can't cancel me if I got three mil. Facts. Facts by 150. I got three. I'm fucking, I'm just playing. All right. Little yacht, little yacht situation. I'm doing fine in life. We all are. Thank God. 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Okay, I was nervous.  I was like, but what if we don't sell it out again? Nah, we going for it, okay? So New York Town Hall, first show sold out. We're adding another show. November 22nd, the tickets just went on sale by the time this is out there at theandroshows.com. Same thing with Boston, sold out to Wilbert Theater. That's amazing. We're gonna come back and we're gonna do it again. Another one at the Wilbert Theater in Boston.   I appreciate you guys for supporting. A lot of you guys have been reaching out, asking for tickets, asking to add another show. So, you know, we did exactly what you want. So theandroshows.com for all those, let's go for it, Matador Tour. New dates, new cities being added every week to the tour. So go to theandroshows.com, get that. Charlotte, any church announcements?  That's all good.  I don't know. That's all good. That's all good. Oh, so let's, I really wanna talk about, I really wanna talk about Killer Mike's speech. It's not even a speech, it was just his like. That's Killer Mike being Killer Mike. Dude, we've been longtime Killer Mike fans here. You've been like an amazing celebrator of Killer Mike. He's one of my favorite rappers of all time. Top five, top seven favorite rappers of all time. And the only reason I say top seven is because I have a top seven. But he's one of my favorite rappers of all time. He's just a great human being. First met Killer Mike in 2003, maybe 0203. Maybe, I don't remember. Back in Columbia, second line of Hot 1039. And I just remember the first time I ever met him because he was with Big Boy and he was doing the Purple Ribbon All Stars album. He goes, I love your J's. Cause I had on the Jordan threes. And it might've been fake, but I don't even know. But he gave me a compliment and I was like, okay, dope. And it's just like, that whole day we ended up hanging out. Cause you know, I'm just doing radio in Columbus, like a lot of times. So I interviewed them and then we hung out at a club later on.  The Killer Mike y'all are just witnessing now and saying how brilliant he is in this now. He has never been another way. It is, it's pretty amazing what we're seeing. It's like, we're watching the message and the messenger unite. And you get to see this like every so often in history where the time requires a message and a messenger. And sometimes you get the messenger and sometimes you get the message and you get them separately. But right now there is a time in history where this message is needed. And we have a messenger who can deliver it and the message that needs to be delivered.  He's the most brilliant thing about Killer Mike, right? I've, Killer Mike has always been Killer Mike. And I've seen people react to him in different ways.  Cause he decided to do exactly what everybody's applauding him for right now. Killer Mike went and sat with another black man on NRA television to discuss 2A. Killer Mike's a big 2A guy and everybody was killing him simply because he was on NRA television.  Fuck, you know, arguing over which master to serve. He was like, even if you don't agree with this person take the good of what they're saying. If you don't agree with that person, take the good of what they're saying. And let's all put together those good ideas and come up with an agenda that can benefit us all. You know how I know that this really touched a chord? Talk to me. Is I had different groups of people reach out. I had conservative friends reach out. I had really uber liberal friends reach out, unbeknownst to each other with the same thing. Yo, if you listen to this Killer Mike thing, yo, this guy's the truth. It was zero panda. You're late. First of all. Listen, they're late, but it doesn't matter. Remember, a time requires everything. It would have been too early before. You know who the X-Factor was? You know who the X-Factor was that got Killer Mike's message registering with all of those different people? Candace Owens. Interesting. And when I saw Candace Owens was gonna be at the Revolt Summit.  And I'm like, why? You need the voice.   You may not agree with everything Candace Owens says. You may not agree with who she chooses to support Donald Trump, but sometimes Candace says some things that are accurate. And not even sometimes. She says some things that I agree with. And she says some things that I don't agree with. Guess what?  Just like your parents. Just like everybody. Just like your uncle. Just like your aunt. Everybody. You can go through Thanksgiving dinner. You can listen to a political debate. Killer Mike said something on that stage, man. And I tell, I tell, man, it's all the time when it came to reference to Candace Owens, because there's certain things Candace would say. And I'll be like, bro, that's exactly what the nation is, Alam says. That's exactly what the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan says. That's exactly what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad says. She may not know that. You know what I'm saying? We're told some of the things that they say. Mike's pointed to her and said, everything she's saying, the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan has been saying for years. And when he challenged the audience, he didn't pander, he was like, this is your homework. Go out and study these people. And he said one person and then Candace was like, tried to give some pushback. And he was like- No, Candace didn't give pushback. Candace said, yes. Oh, no, no, no. Go study these people. And then I think Candace said one thing and he was like, hold on, I got you. Well, no, no, no, no. When he told her to her point, he was saying to her, because when T.I. asked her, when was America ever great? Great, right, right. And Candace was like, we can make Black America great again. And T.I. was like, no, answer the question. When was America ever great? Yeah. For Black people or whatever, whatever. He didn't give Candace a chance to answer the question, which I think he should have. But if you go back and listen to Kilimike, Kilimike actually answered the question. Right. Kilimike gave a moment in time where he thought it was great for Black people in this country. And Candace was like, that's what I was trying to say. And he goes, no. I got to it. You didn't say it. Yeah. You had your moment to get this off and you didn't say it, so let me handle it. And he was like, but that ain't even a sight. That's not a diss to you. You're saying you didn't get it. Let me get this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, man, Kilimike is just a brilliant dude. But think about that, right? It's like, here's this guy up there who's sitting with what seemed to be mortal enemies when they're talking, right? Like a T.I. and Candace, when they're talking to each other, they seem to be mortal enemies. They seem like- That's only because of the way the media has painted it. No, no, no. T.I. as the hero. Candace is the villain. No, I know. But what I'm saying is like, even in their debate, they're not really having dialogue, right? They're both like kind of talking to each other and nothing is really getting done. Doesn't mean that T.I. doesn't truly believe and want to help with his idea. And so does Candace. She wants to help with hers, right? This is what I'm talking about. Message a messenger. Mike comes in and says something and then both Candace and T.I. agree. If you watch T.I. when he's talking to Candace, and don't get me wrong, he had his moments when he pushed back on Candace hard. Yeah, yeah. But it was a lot of times when Candace was talking, when she was talking about father's not being in the home, the illegal immigrants and everything. T.I. was shaking his head like, okay, that's the point. She got a point. And even when she said what she said about the immigrants, T.I. pushed back on that and was like, so what? Killer Mike explained why she was right. Killer Mike was like, I agree with her. You know what? One thing she said that read it to me a lot, black people haven't realized their own political power. Yes. Like, you know, it would be dope if we learned how to vote in these blocks. When you take the 13% of the population and we moved like how the Tea Party moved. And what she was trying to say was, yo, y'all got all this political cachet now, black people, we had this little cachet now, but the brown people about to have that in a minute. You know what I'm saying? So get on board. But what Killer Mike was saying to her was, you're right when it comes to the jobs and all that stuff like that, but when it comes to illegal immigration, they're not just looking at brown people. They're looking at black people too. You know what I'm saying? And he said America is always going to have a slave class.  That's not America. That's capitalism. Well, that's America's capitalist country. Right, right, right. But yeah, it is bigger than just America. Meaning like a capitalist system is always gonna have A slave class. A quote unquote slave class. When we develop the minimum wage, that just replaces. Well, America's different. I'm gonna tell you why. Because of the 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment literally says if you're in prison, you're a slave again. Sure, sure, sure.  So that's what Killer Mike was saying.  Right, but outside of just like imprisonment, it is gonna be part of a capitalistic system where you're gonna have a certain amount of people work for the other people. I mean, that's just what happens. And then, I mean, there's an interesting, I mean- I like the political aspect of it more so than- Dude, I just love, and we can get into that discussion later, but like, I just love the idea of what he said was, stop trying to pick, stop bickering over who's the best master. What we need to do is come together and decide what we want. And we need to ask everybody here that disagrees and find the things we all agree on. And we need to have 10 points, and then we need to serve those up to every single politician that wants our votes and say, if you want our votes, you have to meet. And you know what?  Because that's literally, think about this. That's what every other group does. Right, and they have advantages on you guys, right? There's like shared history and that kind of stuff like that. But there's, literally when an immigrant group moves to America, they vote in blocks. And that is why these certain immigrant groups, they have a small area that they occupy. It might be in New York, it might be in parts of Brooklyn, it might be down to wherever it is. And they'll vote in blocks and they'll get representation from their block in state assemblymen. And then eventually that kind of moves up, but at least they're understood.  Yeah, they are. You always gotta sacrifice things.  Start making moves in this game.  And I said, the beauty about this right here is they're gonna have a conversation, right? And they may get at each other, whatever, whatever. But I knew Candice was gonna say some things that was gonna register.  You know what I'm saying?  That black that hoots and hollers at you. Revolt black. There you go. You know what I'm saying? Booze you. That show time at the Apollo. Keep digging your graves, Damon Lemon Black. All right, okay? But I knew that she was gonna say some things that was gonna connect. And I knew the people that checked for her were gonna see Killer Mike. And even T.I. I didn't know what Tamika was gonna be on the stage, but I knew that they were gonna say some things that Killer Mike was gonna connect with people too. You know what I'm saying? And I think that helps to bridge gaps and make people realize, cause all you need is a couple of things in common which somebody to realize like. One thing. Yeah, really? Yeah, that's it. You need one thing in common. That's it. Every time you're in Aguila, you're in one of these fancy resorts and you connect with. You have a conversation. It's one thing that makes you just. Right.  It could be, by the way, it could be something as simple as your kids. That's it. I meet somebody I met a dude the other day. I met somebody in Turks and Caicos. This guy, and he's from Long Island. I wish I could remember his name. He had three daughters. I got three daughters. That's it. Yeah, he was a whole of the past life, huh? And he was like. Was I? Was I? Next thing you know, I'm talking to him. My wife talking to his wife. We just kicking it. We laughing. We joking. We sharing stories and experiences. That's all it takes. One thing. That's it. Simple as that. And they, yeah, yeah, go on. But no, that's what I loved about it. And I thought, I just thought it was a great conversation. I want to see Revolt do more of that. I feel like a. Can we salute Diddy or the producers who ever put this together or what the idea behind it was? You got to salute Diddy. I mean, he put his name on it. That's his network. That's his network. When I think of the name of the network, Revolt. Yes. I just think that for the next year, because we're in such a weird place right now. I don't even want to call it weird because it's actually a great time where hip-hop and politics are colliding on a mass pop culture level, even though hip-hop is pop culture, right? But I mean, if you listen to hip-hop for years, you've always had your Chuck Deeds. You've always had your Ice Cubes. You've always had your Killer Mikes. You've always had these guys that talk about social commentary. They talk about things that social media value. They've always talked about political things that's been going on.  You've impeached the president of Ice Cubes. You've always heard this in the music. But now, like you said, it's being presented in such a digestible way. You know what I'm saying? You got to give Angela Rye a lot of credit for that too. Angela Rye, whether you agree with her or not, she knows how to talk that language that connects with that hip-hop audience. When she's on CNN and she's using hip-hop references, people embrace it in a different way. Ebony Kay Williams. She's on State of the Coaching with Joe Budden and Remy. She's an attorney. She knows politics, but she just knows how to put it in a digestible way. Killer Mike, super academic, you know what I'm saying?  He's using the language of the people. They know how to communicate. Yes, man, yes. Was Angela part of that conversation? No, it was Tamika Mallory. What's Katrina's last name? Pearson, I think. Katrina Pearson. Killer Mike, T.I., and I cannot remember the other brother name. I never saw him before that. And who moderated it? Jeff Johnson. Through to Jeff. I was on a plane with Jeff this weekend. Cousin Jeff. Cousin Jeff, you know what I'm saying? And yeah, I just thought it was a good conversation, man, because it was just, it shows black people aren't monolithic. Dude, we are witnessing a profound time in black American history. If we're willing to listen. Even if it's not, it's like, that conversation right there will be, it could be talked about in history. Did you watch the whole hour, 18 minutes? No, I didn't. Did you watch the whole hour? And I will. I'm curious in it. I watched several chunks of it, but like that conversation right there could be talked about in history in the same way they talk about, you know, when Lincoln spoke at, what was the school that they have right there in East Village? Cooper Union. Cooper Union. You know what I mean? This transition in ideology, this transition and this kind of removal from this dogmatic approach to politics that black people have been expected to have for so long, which is, I'm black, I'm democratic because the Democrats vote for me. It's like, no, I'm black and I have my issues that I care about.  By the way, salute the killer, Mike. None of that is new rhetoric. No, no, Mike's been saying this. Dude, we're not even from great. This is Elijah Muhammad. This is Malcolm X. This is brilliant, it is.  You see how I weigh all my neck every day, Elijah Muhammad, like, all of that is old rhetoric. That's why I love Nipsey so much, right? Because Nipsey is a new symbol for old values. Because Nipsey used to study the honorable Elijah Muhammad. Sure. He used to study Malcolm X. He's the do-for-self model. He's that guy, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like when people look at him and what he's doing, that's been going on. Saying killer Mike is the same way he fall, he's fruit off that tree. But everything he said is absolutely right. You free, act like it. Make a free decision. My fucking, you free. Don't be chained by your ideology. Don't be chained by your identity or anything like that. And say what you wanna say about Candace. She opens the door for that. She is very brave.  The fact that she's willing to say some of it and open a little bit of your mind to a different idea, right? It doesn't mean you're gonna go along with everything, but one of those ideas might profoundly change the black experience here in America economically. People say this all the time. I have these conversations with my people all the time behind the scenes. And I always say that if somebody is speaking about the liberation of black people, which Candace is saying is her ultimate goal, whether it's free of mind from the Democratic Party, whatever, my biggest issue with Candace is that you're telling people to come be Republicans, but for what? Yeah. Because I'm more with Mike. Yeah, yeah.  Now, if you could tell me what Republicans are doing specifically for us, the Trumpers, then I'll pay attention a little bit more. I agree with you. But just telling people to exit the Democratic Party to be Republicans, whatever. But my point is if you're speaking about the liberation of black people, I gotta listen. Regardless if I agree with your course of action, regardless if I agree with who you support, regardless if I agree with who you choose to attack, because I don't like when she comes at the Jamel Hills and the Angela Rise of the world. I don't like, I'm not gonna say that. I don't like the way she comes at them. If you wanna challenge them, challenge them. When you call them babbling idiots and this and that, whatever, because that's one thing I would never say about Candace.  You know why? Because I do think she makes a lot of sense sometimes. Right. You know what I'm saying? But your approach could be totally different because if your real end goal is deliberate black people. You'll take Democrat or Republican or independent whoever's gonna do it. Absolutely. And if that person's goal is deliberate black people, as long as y'all got the same end goal, it don't matter what the course of action is. You know what I see? She does that on the right and then there are certain people that do it on the left where they're dogmatic about their approach to their politics. It's almost like they're the environmentalist people. And I don't say this as a joke. You know how they're so extreme? They're like, we only have 10 more years to switch the environment. We need to stop using all plastic things right now. Stop eating all. And you're just like, dude, that's a little crazy. We're not gonna stop using all plastic and stop eating all chickens and cows. We're not gonna do that. Why don't we figure out a reasonable approach to this shit? And I think that's where Killer Mike is. Killer Mike is the guy who comes along.  Killer Mike is center, everything, bro. Center. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And by the way, that's what you need to be. That's why I say, even when it comes to somebody like Elizabeth Warren, I love Elizabeth Warren. I think she's dope. I just don't think she can capture enough people in the center right. I don't think you can be too far left. I don't think you can be too far right.  Yeah, he was. And when he was left, he was like, he might say, okay, legalizing gay marriage is left. But it's not really a political issue. It's not a political issue. Exactly. It's more of a moral thing, if anything.  Shit. Drone strikes. Let's go. Shit.   They're not getting dropped. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it is interesting. I was texting Chris yesterday and we were just talking about like, Chris goes, do you think you're gonna start here and kill Mike for governor? And while I think that he could be great inside of politics, I think Mike's, I think what happens is once you become a politician, you're not beholden to just black people.  I think Mike is like that. Yeah, but here's the thing. I think Mike's great service and power right now is to the liberation and like the further progress of black people. And he can't just focus on that if he's working on the whole state. Yo, let me tell you something. Do you see what I'm saying? The reason I got so mad at killing Mike, man, not mad at killing Mike, mad at the detractors of killing Mike when they was trying to cancel killing Mike.   This man is born in Atlanta, Georgia. He owns a barber shop. That's his, his grandmother had him banking black since he was a kid. He went to Morehouse. Like, bro, you not gonna find someone blacker. He's been owning black on businesses. He's married a black woman. He raps. He raps. What do you want?  He's got killer in his first nub shop. Yo, by the way, I'm gonna tell you how ill killer Mike is too. This is the other thing that y'all not paying attention to. Maybe you do. Running Jules has quietly been one of the biggest groups in hip hop for years. LP is white. You go to these Running Jules shows, bro.  And but it's really, it's majority white people. He connects. You know why? Because we all love radicals.  And he's willing to walk through the fire.  Why would you catch us? I always look at people who, I always watch people who respond to their first cancellation. And I watch them closely. And it's an important reaction that they have. And I remember we had him here after they tried to cancel. Absolutely. And his reaction to it was great. He didn't back off. He didn't whimper. He didn't apologize or anything like that. It was like, a lot of people calling me black need to look at who they lay in bed.  I married a black woman. A lot of my critics did not.  I text killer Mike this morning. I said, you free, act like it. And I said, yet another slogan you have yet to put on a motherfucking t-shirt. I said, I'm gonna have to start doing you like I used to do Duvall.  To make him move.  I married a black woman. Most of my critics did not.   I'm serious. My wife is black. My daughter's a black. I ain't never wanted anything else.  But you mean why you out here with a white man?    Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Act like it. Woo! That's a bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know why it's a bar? Because so many of us, we allow our setbacks to become our identities. Yeah. But yeah, you're going that, going that. That's a period. Dude, it's.  And you become so entrenched in one issue that you can't even see the others. Like, here we are right now celebrating a guy who is pro-gun. When a week ago, most people listening to this right now are probably, maybe not most people, but a lot of people listening to this. How do we even still have guns? How do we even do that? We got to get rid of all guns, et cetera. You can agree with somebody on one thing and disagree with them on another. And that's okay. And still look up to them. That's the way life is. Yeah, it is. Why do y'all act like it's any other way? Because these retards want to cancel everybody when they do one thing that they disagree with because they are social currency and cancellation.  All these people that are out there cancelling are parasites. There's no such thing as cancel culture. Oh yeah. Nobody getting canceled, don't mind. Nobody getting canceled.  Just because you're mad doesn't mean a person doesn't have the right to exist. You understand what I'm saying? Just because you're mad or disagree with it. It's almost like having real low emotional IQ because you're not able to defend why you are upset. You're not able to defend why you don't agree. If you don't agree, just state another point. Hey, hey, what about this? What if it's not about them disagreeing? What if it's they validate themselves by getting corporations to bend to their whim? What if these parasites cancel people just because they get an ego stroke of going, watch, I bet I can get bounty paper towels to stop advertising on this show. Cause I expose them. They do it so they can feel good. They don't care about your empowerment. They don't care about the forward progress of your people.    I'm just tired of us. Like it could be a great point, right? A great point can be made. And then the person can say one thing and we focus on that one thing instead of focusing on the overall point.  Yeah, yeah, get into that because I watch Bill Maher every week.  I got you. Oh yeah, with, oh, Squarespace, my peoples. 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You know, he was talking this, he always talks about how we are normalizing so many things that we shouldn't normalize anymore, especially in government. And he was just talking about how Trump was at the point where Trump was just committing crimes in your face now.    You know what I'm saying? And I just like watching him, but he did this about a couple of weeks ago. He did this whole rant. And the rant was really about, hold on, it was from a New York Times article. That's what he was referencing. And the New York Times article was entitled Our Food is Killing Us. And it was a quote that reads, poor diet is the leading cause of mortality in the United States. Then he listed all of the terrible health conditions that are caused by obesity. And he talked about how obesity is a huge part of a healthcare debate that nobody is having, right? And he actually said something that we have said on this podcast a million times. If I'm not mistaken, the first Brewer and Nitties podcast, the Star Shame Enterprise, was actually about how shame works. I've had plenty of people come up to me and say, Shalemaine, you shamed me into losing weight, whatever, whatever. Now by the way, I wasn't attempting to shame you. You know what I'm saying?  And I think that's the thing with shame, right? The thing with shame is, it don't matter if I say it publicly, if I pull you to the side. If you're ashamed about something and I say it to you. That's inside you. It's inside you. You can't be offended by something that you don't feel insecure about.  That's it?  I've been talking with a list for 30 years. You can say whatever list joke you got.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can say whatever about me. It don't bother me if it don't bother me, right?  That's something you can actually change. Yeah.  We're not talking about them.  Majority of the people in America who are fat are fat because of overeating and lack of exercise. That is a fact. You can argue with me until the cows come home and there's nowhere you're gonna read that doesn't tell you otherwise. I've never met a fat person that works out more than me. You know what I'm saying? Never once. I've never met one.  Yeah. So when you're giving people this medicine, you throw a little candy in it. And even though it's truth and jokes, when he says fat shaming works, I don't think, I think he's looking at it the same. And I can't speak for him. I'm just saying that's the way we also look at it. Because that is what it's called, right?  I'm not though. I'm just telling that person, yo, lose some weight you wanna be here, right? You don't have a heart attack or whatever. So I'm not doing it on purpose. So I think when Bill Maher was saying that, that's what he was saying.  He's just telling them, yo, if they big, let them know. If they obese, let them know. Like you encourage them to get in the shape. James Corden. Nobody ever lost weight because of compliments. Yes. And James Corden said, I have nothing but respect for Maher. I think he's terrific. I watched his show last night. But he said what? He said, what did James Corden actually? He said fat shaming.  It needs to make a comeback. And James Corden basically said, fat shaming is wrong. And all I'm saying is he made it all about fat shaming.  But being that we're only focusing on this, the one line Maher said about fat shaming, we're dismissing everything else. About obesity and healthcare and overeating and lack of exercise. We get so distracted. You know what I mean? We're not distracted. He's been a parasite. You think he's just... Parasiting, man. That's all he's doing. He's finding a bite that he can use to virtue signal on. And then he can pat himself on the back and all his followers can be like, oh my God, you're so good, you're so right. Look how evil that person was. You shine some light on how evil they were. Parasite behavior, dude. Parasite, dude. Yeah. I'm not mad at James Corden for his opinion. You know what I'm saying? He has the right to his opinion.  And that's an unhealthy thing. It is an unhealthy thing.  I would have liked for him to have that conversation about building more. Here's the thing. I have no problem with you pushing back on the fat shaming thing. If you equally big up all the things that you agree with that he said, because you did, James did say he's right. Obesity is a real thing. And lack of exercise and people are not going to be, but big that up just as much as you make a point about the fat shaming thing. You can tell Bill Mario you could do all of that without encouraging fat shaming, whatever. But just big up the good and what Bill Marr said, as much as you big up what you deem as negative.  Yes. And I think you get into trouble there because it's like, well, you can't just be a comedian the second motherfuckers give you pushback and then all the other stuff you say that's serious, you go, no, that's, I meant to me. I meant that all of that. You know, and I think that's where a lot of comics like is, I think it's tough for comics and most people in general just to be content and just be entertainment. But just cause this is a joke doesn't mean that it's false. Absolutely. Joke just means intention. Yes, but if he only did jokes, he could joke about that all he want and then it's totally fine. But the fact that the beginning was serious and he was giving these serious points, it's almost like he's using the comedy as like a way to get out of jail free. That's why I like Bill Marr. And that's cool. That's what I love. I think Bill Marr is the best host on television. He's not Stephen Colbert. You know what I'm saying? But Stephen does something totally different. There's nobody I liked it. The only other person I used to like to hear that did what Marr did was Jon Stewart. Yeah, Jon was phenomenal. Phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marr is, Marr, I think Marr has killer Mike on this show all the time. Cause he gets it. Marr is center. Yeah. As much as people act like Marr is left leaning. No, Marr is center. Marr criticizes the left. This is as much as he considers the right. It's just that right now, the right needs a lot more criticism. Right, but he's also heavy on the left. Like he's heavy on the criticism the left needs right now too. He hates the, listen. He thinks the left is responsible for the puthification of society. Yeah. All these cans of culture shit, y'all. He calls the left a shooting, a circle of shooters. What did he call it? That's a good shooter. Huh?  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody calls it a better shooting. If everybody's shooting each other in a circle, everyone's dead. Not a circle jerk, a circular firing squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So everybody's killing each other. Everybody's in a circle. Everybody's shooting at each other. You end up killing each other, cancelling each other out.  So he's just as hard on them as he is on the right. But I just like him, because I feel like there's nobody out there that's stating the obvious more than motherfucking Bill Maher.    We gotta start dismantling systems. Yeah.  Yeah, but systems don't get retweets, bro.  Well, we know that. I'm not into retweets. I'm into actual work. Now we talking. You know what I'm saying? And building systems takes time. Dismantling systems take time. And they both take hard work to do it. Yeah, no, it's true, man. It's true. I keep thinking about what we were saying before, you just need one thing in common with somebody. That's it? There's this, God, it's so true, man. And we're really, if we can have one thing in common, anybody can get along. Anybody can have a good time. That's it. I was doing this. Why do we do that? Why do we get around each other and figure out all the reasons we don't like something? Bro, you know what I realized, dude? I was at New York Comic Club. Shout to New York Comic Club, a great comic club in New York City here. And I was doing this Schultz and Friends show that I do every once in a while there. And I put the clip up on my YouTube this week.   And here are these two groups that like the world is pitted against each other and they think they can't get along. And instead of comedy dividing, right? It's really comedy uniting.  Why? Because in that moment, they just agreed to have one thing in common. They agreed that they were gonna laugh.      So why isn't that the state of political discourse? Why is the state of political discourse like how separate we are? Why don't Republicans and Democrats extend the olive branch?   Like what is, maybe it's up to like us to decide what we find most valuable. What do you find most valuable as Charlemagne the God? What do I find most valuable as Andrew Schultz? And then just vote that.  I'm being honest. That's what I like. I like laughing.  Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And the people that know me know that. That's why I'm not even gonna repeat some of the jokes I heard at Elvis's wedding. Because context matters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right? Dude, it does matter. And like, there's this SNL controversy. Obviously you heard about the SNL controversy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should check in with our Asian correspondent about that. Chris, what did you feel about the... You gonna make me speak for Asians here? I mean, you're the closest we got. So the controversy is... You gonna make me buy bottles for Jackie Chan. Say what? That's what Chris said to let you talk to the same. You gonna make me...  Is that an actual lid? I hope so. Because we're gonna have to cancel whoever...  I can't buy bottles for Jackie Chan. Asian Twitter, come to me, bro. My coastline is not gonna be worth too much to you, man. So, just to set everybody up, there's a SNL hired three new cast members. One, a girl, I forget her name. Boen Yang is the, who I think was a writer last season.  I'm assuming he's the Asian one. He's the Asian one. Okay. And then Shane Gillis, who's first time being involved in the show. What's the outreach? And a clip came up from a podcast that Shane was doing where he was making fun of Asians in Chinatown. I'm gonna use the derogatory word for Chinese people, right? One that rhymes with a sink. I think you know which one it is, right? And rhymes with blink. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway. You can say rest in peace, chinks drugs. Ah, chinks drugs, exactly. That was his name. Or this armor, there was a chink in the armor. There you go. But by the way, you can say that because you're not saying, you're not calling them. I'm teasing, I'm teasing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the thing about what was happening on the podcast is that it wasn't really a joke being told.  So whereas like, cause I was asking Asian comics and their friends their take on it. And most of the times a comic responds like this. They're like, listen, I'm a comic first in a lot of ways. So usually I'll look at the comedy and then I look at the substance afterwards, right? And this situation really wasn't a joke.   And what happens is a narrative gets set. Yeah, what's up?  Asians. But he's Asian. No, no, Shane isn't Asian. Oh, we're shakin' you on you. I thought you were talking about the Yang. So Ari Shafir said an interesting thing. Comic Ari Shafir, very funny guy.  Duh. He is doing it for content and that is not how he feels, right? And I think that that goes beyond just comics. You and I have said horrific things on this very podcast. Absolutely. But it's never in the guise of being horrific. It's in the guise of entertainment. Have we failed? Yes. Yes. Hundreds of times. And by the way, we weren't even trying to be entertaining. We just being ourselves.    That being said, it's in the guise of entertainment.  Maybe not. I think. I made a living off it. That's the only reason these presidential candidates videos go far. I'm not a talk to these people in a different way. That's fair. That's fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's a tricky thing. But what happens is after an agenda set, they started going through all of Shane's podcast and everything he ever said and trying to find other bites that confirm this anti-Asian narrative.  No, I'm not going to say anti-Asian narrative because if there's a history of, I guess, anti-Asian rhetoric, then there's probably something there. No, but here's the thing. They can create a narrative. Yeah. You know more than anybody. I know that, yes. So what they do is they go through your entire history and then find the little things throughout history that could fulfill the narrative. So they're starting to do that with him. And there was this article that he was being referenced in where he was basically saying that, and the thing that they take out is he goes, you can make fun of Asians and then the audience laughs. They think it's okay or something like that. And they cut out the context of it, which is how hypocritical is that? That there's one group that you can just make fun of and other groups you can't make fun of. But again, that context isn't good. The context isn't good for the narrative that's set, which is, oh my God, this guy hates Asians so much. And it's a tricky thing with comedy. And this is the hardest thing to defend because what he said in the podcast wasn't funny at all. That's the problem. If it was funny, then his comics were like, dude, this is a joke. You don't get the joke. With the Dina Hashem girl, when she did the joke about XXX, at least it was funny. At least there was a comedic context to it. When there's no comedic context to it, you can't go, I'm a comedian. It was- I liked the premise. There was a bait and switch. You can say the execution wasn't as good as you wanted, but you could at least go, that was an intended joke. That was written for the intent of humor, whereas this one wasn't.  That's the worst part about podcasts though. 100%. Because on stage, in your structure, you have to set up, you've built this joke out.  And you know what? So Neal said the best. He goes, an unfunny joke and a funny joke start in the same place. Yeah. They start in the exact, we don't know. And by the way, most funny jokes probably didn't start off as funny. They start unfunny. Yeah. Should I know? Because it's a premise. And you're building it out. You're building it out. You're building it out. And next thing you know, you got this great bit. That's like, oh, okay. It starts bombing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are people I'm sure have seen me start with a joke that bombed and then eventually see me again and seen that joke change.  You can't start with white people are buying pimples now. You got to build. You got to build up to that one, all right? I'm sure. By the way, I've seen Damon tell that joke again. Yeah. And it was great. It was great.  Been into it, it was still cold. You tried to warm it up, bro. Like you wasn't ready. Wasn't ready. The middle is still frozen. The middle is still frozen, man. That's all. You just got to build it out. Podcast, you don't get to do that. Because podcasts are really just your first thought, your premise. I'm reading Ryan Holiday's new book called Stillness is the Key. And he talks about thinking deeply. And he says how hard it is to think deeply, especially in this era, because we always want to throw our first thought out there.  Because it ain't supposed to be like that. It's supposed to be. I got to thought. That's why a lot of times I hit the group chat. I'll call you. Let's flesh this out.  And give it to them. That's why I enjoy the content. That's why I enjoy talking to you. I enjoy talking to Banna. We enjoy talking to Angela. We're fleshing things out and talking to my wife. We're fleshing things out. What am I missing here?  So I could see what I'm missing. You want to see all sides. I know that Van or you is going to come with an angle I didn't see. And if you guys don't, then I'm like, oh shit, maybe I'm on to something and maybe it's good. But if you guys do, now I at least know the reaction. Yes. I know what I'm up against. I'm not surprised when I get that reaction because, OK, I've seen it. And I can prepare for that.   You should overthink things. Overthink what you say. I think you should overthink things, period.  There's no reason. There's no point in sitting there and overthink it. That's very true.   What do you want to do? Shit, overthink. Overthink it. Figure it out. And by the way, figure it out and you may not even get it right after overthinking it. But at least you gave it a lot of thought. You're able to live with it more if it doesn't go right. If you know I really, really gave it some thought. I prayed on it. This is what I came to the conclusion about. I did my best. Yes.  You can't feel that bad. You're still going to be disappointed. But you gave it everything. You gave it everything.  Oh, it's the worst. It's like that's on me.  And I'm guaranteed that's what Shane got to be thinking right now is like, man, like, because Shane's a funny comic. And he's like, that was not representative of me as a comic at all. You wouldn't got my worst work. My, it wasn't even work.  And I am funny. The kid is funny. I'll tell you that.  That's what happened with the rape culture conversation we was having here on the podcast. Yes. Because people can say whatever they want. Years ago, before it was the, I don't want to say trendy, but the trendy thing to do, Brilliant Natives was ahead of the curve.    We were questioning a lot about bullshit behavior from the past, questioning the gray areas, yada, yada, yada. And speaking in a way where we speak. But, but, but think about it. We were trying, we were figuring. Those are conversations we should have been having amongst each other. So once we did bring it to the masses, we had a better understanding. But we were working it out in real time on these podcasts. Which is what we always do. Which is what we always do. And that's why it's interesting because you know what? We're fleshing out these ideas that everybody listening also has. Yes. So they're like, the people that listen, you guys, I'm sure you get this all the time, they're like, yeah, I just feel like I'm in on a conversation. Because it is one. Yes. This is not structured. Every single week, Taylor brings in five pieces of paper that have topics on it.  Matter of fact, we did one today. We don't know. She typed. We really did one. Listen, everybody watching at home, I just want to let you know. She had to type all this. This is typed. Yes. Every week, it's tons of these papers. We did this one. That's the Bill Maher James card. I don't ever, do you ever even look at it? She hands it to me and then I put it right in the garbage. Right over here. Every single week. Nah, some good ones on here today though. It actually is. The T-bow draws national criticism after saying collegiate athletes shouldn't be paid.  Felicity Huffman sentenced to 14 days. No Emmy for Beyonce. I don't care about that. Life Jenin calls out CTG for joking on his song. I don't care about that. Kim K says CBD saved their life. I agree. I love CBD. Helps me sleep. Yeah, now do you think that's her setting up a CBD line? 100%, right? 1000%. Shorty does not play around. She knows exactly. Just like when Drake starts tweeting, you know he got the album or some singles coming out. This is her version of that. I just wanted to show that my favorite CBD line is Green Roads. Those are the products that I like to use. I think they're a great company. Yeah, shout to Green Roads. Yeah, Green Roads is great. I use the gummies. I use the SERP. I do the drops under my tongue. It helps my anxiety. It helps me to sleep. I take it with me when I travel.  I put CBD on my joints after I work out. I can't speak for all CBD products.  You got to bring some for me. Oh, absolutely.  Yeah, give me some. I want to try this.  Actually, when Dr. Oz was on, Dr. Oz was talking about one of the studies that they did on these CBD companies. And a lot of these CBD companies don't really have CBD in them. Yeah, they're fake. They're just advertising it. Green Roads is not one of those companies.  Oh, yeah, yeah, Green Roads is A1. I mean, this is the real way that you make billions of dollars. Because selling marijuana is a limited market, right? You can't sell marijuana to kids. You can't sell marijuana to adults.  And she's like, that's always going to be scrutinized. You just have a little bit of a taboo thing attached to it. But if CBD isn't a drug, and CBD could just help you, and CBD is non-habit-forming, and CBD doesn't have any lasting effects. No, no, no, I'm saying like... The question is, when is Johnson and Johnson going to start selling CBD? Oh, they own it. When is... Yo, did you know that they got to make weed legal for us? Marijuana got to be legal. No, no, no, CBD. He's like, when is Johnson and Johnson going to do CBD? Can he not legal? Oh, it's not. It's not illegal. But it's the same thing. They don't know how to regulate it as far as the... It's not even that real. My food co-op has it, but it's in a sealed case, and you have to get somebody to open the case, which doesn't make any sense to me. What I'm saying is that's the real moneymaker, because that's the difference, because marijuana is always going to be looked at a drug, just like alcohol always going to be looked at a drug. I don't think marijuana, and I think in 50 years, it's going to be the same as alcohol. Yeah, but here's the thing. Water gets purchased a lot more than Heineken. They got CBD water, too? That's what I'm saying. So CBD can be the non-alcoholic version of alcohol. You know what I mean? CBD can be the water. But I don't want to see Johnson and Johnson gobble it up, because I think a lot of people have been doing good work in the space, but there is a situation also where it is unregulated.  When you go to the Greg's Coffee in New York, they're like, do you want a CBD shot in your...   There are certain brands. They put CBD in coffee. Road sounds like it's one of the... Railroad is great. Charlotte's Web is definitely one of... I mean, there are certain brands. One of my favorite books. Really? Solid book. Love Shot. What? Never read it.  Well, maybe, but I don't know if it's because of that. Wilbur and Charlotte was great.  Oh, I'm like, Jesus Christ, you're not getting that fat. Listen, what did you say, Chris? I was just saying that there's going to be a construction and it's going to unfortunately get gobbled up. But I think it's the same thing. I mean, I think you'll see Big Tobacco gradually ease out tobacco when we replace it with marijuana. I was, when I did the thing, when I moderated the panel Friday at the Congressional Black Caucus thing, and it was about, you know, can cannabis license be used as reparations? And you know, you'll see so many of these digital dickheads.  You got CBD, you got hemp. You know what I'm saying? Hemp, you can make clothes out of hemp and rope, all types of different, it's all type of different uses of the marijuana plant. THC does one thing, CBD does one thing, the hemp does another thing. Like it's so many different ways to use the motherfucking marijuana plant. I was introduced to America.  You know, it was a staple crop for a long time. It wasn't really till black people started smoking it that it became a problem to know the truth.  In order for like, you gotta have George, George Washington chopped down the marijuana tree, my G, you know what I'm saying?  Cause first of all, I ain't never seen a cherry tree. I didn't know cherries came on trees. Me neither. I ain't never seen a cherry tree. I ain't never seen the motherfucking cherry tree. It's so crazy that when you think cherries, you think pussies. I, you do? Like popping a cherry? Yes. You don't think it a fruit? Wouldn't it last how you referenced a cherry as an actual cherry? I do. Really? Yeah. That's usually what I think about.  I don't think it's a girl.   Really? Yeah. I just forgot it was a joke.  You think he was just eating hymens? No, not insane and not saying it like that, but you always saying reference to something. Oh, you popped a cherry? Right. I don't think I'm popping a cherry into my mouth.  Yeah, man. Yeah. I don't think I've ever popped a cherry. You never took a girl's virginity? I have, but I think their cherry got popped through like gymnastics or equestrian. Oh, you never broke that hymen? I don't think I broke that hymen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. No, you could bust your hymen doing gymnastics or equestrian. I've definitely broken a couple hymens in my day. Really? I bet. Never want to say that. It's blood everywhere, right? I've got two reasons I never want to sleep with a virgin. Number one, I know I'm not going to build you for the rest of my life, so why would I do that to you? And number two, it's just like, hey, I need experience, especially when you young like, hey, give me a whore, bro. Yeah, I'm with you on that, bro.  Like I know when I took out my virginity taken, a woman that took my virginity was already having sex. Yes. I probably was whacked to her too. Somebody got to know what they're doing.  Virginia overrated. Yeah, man, yeah, man. Don't let the Muslims fool you when they say they gon' bomb something and they get 10 virgins wet. You don't want none of that, bro. Dude, give you three horse over 72 virgins, three horse for the afterlife. What would you rather? That's a good question. Three horse, 72 virgins. Three horse. Depends on that. Heaven. Three horse, three horse, three of them. If I'm in hell, I'm taking the 72 virgins. Why?   It'll be 73 of us down in heaven going to stay warrior's numbers, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yo.  That group text was a motherfucker, huh? It's just a pervert. That's it? Really? Nobody else ate group text? Really, God? Really? God, you telling me that group chat didn't stop? Oh, but you read it, though. I thought you knew our heart. Oh, but you read it? That's why we're here, because someone was going through it all. Like, you was okay with it then. You be like, God, I thought you knew our heart. God's like, I do. And I know that you didn't really trust the group chat, so you didn't put what you was really thinking in there.  All right, guys, I think we're done. Anything else? I think that's it, baby. All right, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. Can we, at the end of every podcast, go through the topics we didn't cover then? Let's do it. The Taylor, the Taylor listed. So go through everything that she said. Teebo draws national security, not touching it. No Emmy for Beyonce, not touching it. Teebo's a dickhead. He is.  I just think that he's a privileged person who doesn't understand the circumstances that some people come from because he may have been playing football for the love. Motherfuckers playing it for money. Yo, they trying to change their circumstances. And by the way, if you wanted to be so much for the love, we'll tell the colleges to stop charging admission for games. Tell the colleges to stop charging for merchandise. Tell the colleges to stop charging people for concessions. Tell the colleges stop doing license and deals with video games. It's TV revenue. It's a billion dollar business. I'm not gonna, how can you justify making billions of dollars in something and telling this person, hey man, do it for the love?  Give me a percentage of my jersey sales. What's wrong with that?    Oh. He's okay. He's ready to go.  I love it. Let them college motherfuckers get paid, man. It's a brilliant thing that they're doing. This is what we were suggesting on Flagrant 2, which was let them make money on their likeness. Colleges don't even gotta pay them. You're just letting them make money on their likeness. So now the colleges, you don't gotta share any of your money, you cheap motherfuckers. But what you can do is allow these kids to not starve and actually they'll stay in school longer because some of them ain't gonna make it in the NBA. Yo, I said that this morning on the radio, it's like the incentive is if I can make millions of dollars in college. I might as well stay for four years.  I know I'm gonna be a second round pick.  Or I can make 250 grand a year with the sponsorship from Home Depot or whatever they give me. Come on, come on. This is gonna make, in my opinion, this is gonna make college sports unfucking. It revitalizes the NCAA, especially the NCAA basketball. NCAA should be solved out this.  They're not gonna come in for one year and be out. They're gonna stack this motherfucker's bread up. By the time they get to the NBA, guess what? This is why the NBA should be all about it. By the time they get to the NBA, they had four years of the marketing machine that is the NCAA. They're more mature. The game is ready. They know how to manage their money. They learn how to manage their money. They learn how to manage their money. And they're famous. Let's think about how famous Zion got from one year. Imagine four years or at least two or three years playing for Duke, making legit money, getting your game legit, right?   So now I'm making you larger than life. I don't wear no college jerseys. Why?  It's just numbers.  Y'all remember when... I remember when... Dude, tell me, you gotta recommend more stories. It's pretty good. I remember when Alan Iveson played in Georgetown. We wanted that number three order. Because it was so synonymous with Alan Iveson. That's true. I can't think of too many college... I can't think of too many college players who made their jerseys larger than life. I can't think of many, bro. Alan Iveson's the only one that I can think of off the top of my head. College players that made their jerseys. What, Taylor?  Yeah, I can't think of nobody with Alan Iveson, bro. In my lifetime. I can't either. And I'm not even mad at T-Bull for what he said.  But it's just like, yo, you're being... For you to be a Christian, you're being very selfish. Yeah. Right? Okay. Dude, here's one thing, then we get out of here. But this Felicity Huffmanship, where she only got sentenced for 14 days. This is so... This is the woman who paid for her daughters to get the SATs faked and basically game the system to get into USC, was it, Chris? Yeah, I believe so. Okay, so this is what's so funny about this. To me. Is for years, wealthy families have been buying libraries and donating land to these universities so that their kids get in with lackluster grades. For years is going on. The Bushes, all these libraries named after some rich family in a school were donated so that their legacy can continue to go to school. Matter of fact, the schools even have a term for it. It's called legacy, meaning if your parents went to the school, you have easier access into the school because the assumption is whatever you're part of that tradition bubble, it doesn't matter. So the reason Felicity Huffman is going to jail is because she tried to do it the cheap way.  She tried to cut out the middleman.    How can the school go, this is wrong. It's not wrong.  I think it would be a legit criticism if it was a public institution. 100%, but a private one being? Private institution, they can do, so a lot of people are making the comparison between the woman who was sent to jail, I think for five years, for trying to. Horrible.  You're trying to get a better education for your kid. The worst thing that should happen is they take your kid out of the school. That's it.  Everybody does. Everybody in my school, didn't it? Everybody does. Work address, yeah.  She tried to take a shortcut. Now if she had done that at UCLA, I think it's a different story because UCLA is a public institution and then she's stealing public money, but I'm kinda like, yo, if you do it at a price, the college is bullshit for acting outrage because they do it at their entire financial wealth is based on shaking down rich people. For admissions, it's a lot of hypocrisy on that note.  And the fact she only got 14 days, look man, pay-paying privilege, baby. You know what I'm saying?   You know what I'm saying?  Maybe if she doubled up that money, she could've got her kid in the school, no problem.   Oh no, the school thing done.  Is these kids end up going to these schools that they're cheating to get into and doing fine. Sure. So what does that tell us? That you don't need good grades to be successful in these schools. Everybody I ever met that went to Harvard has told me way harder to get in than actually do the work there. Sure. So what it is, is creating a border, if you will, for a very privileged society where you can build up these connections to do things in the real world. Do we?  So you can't really make the math problem that much harder. I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of classes at Harvard that are more difficult than the classes. Swizz Beach told me that the class he learned the most from at Harvard was the class that was a three-week course. Right.  He didn't learn nothing. What he said, the class that had the three-week course, he just learned more from it. And those are the things that he utilizes right now. Well, that's the thing. When you go to an institution like that, you're going there for the connections. Right, yeah. Like the same thing when you get a master's degree, right? It's not only the information that you learn, it's the network that you're now a part of. It's you need a job in finance. You can go to that teacher that you worked at a finance with, and he has all these connections in the financial world, and he can get you at the bare minimum a meeting about a job. And is that worth $200,000? Maybe. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. I don't think it will be going forward. Maybe not forward, but maybe it's not. College right now, $200,000 to have no degree that gets you an actual job. I'm sorry, buddy. I already told my kids, I was like, if college is important to you, you're gonna have to start thinking about a scholarship because I'm not coming out of pocket for this. This is the least Asian thing you've ever said. Why? This is the least Asian thing you have ever said on this very podcast. I look forward. I don't think it's a smart investment to be perfectly honest with you going forward. I think if you could get into the Stanford's and Harvard's and Yale's because of the things that Andrew just mentioned, it's a smart investment to get into the type of college I went to. I think you can network anywhere though. I don't agree with that. I understand what Andrew's saying, but you can network at any of these places. You never know where the next big tech guy's gonna come from. You never know where the next head of a 4,500 company is gonna come from. You never know where the next senator is gonna come from. That's 100% true, but being part of these institutions allows you access to VC funding.  When you go to Manhattan Community College, you don't have those same connections. I didn't say you went way down. I didn't say, oh, I didn't say community college, Andrew.  I didn't say go from Ivy League to, you know, a bodega with some books on it. Right, but I think that's what's gonna happen is the top is gonna still be worthwhile and the bottom is gonna be worthwhile because it doesn't cost that much. But the middle is useless. Good point. Good point. Well, I wanna rewrite a lot of it. I want, especially with the HBCUs, I think that we should start putting more money in our HBCUs. And I got something coming next month that I'm gonna announce. Okay. Yes, Luther South Carolina State. Can't wait till y'all homecoming. I got an announcement for y'all homecoming weekend, South Carolina State, because I'll be down there that weekend. But yeah, I can't believe you don't want, I look forward. I would love though. I look forward. There are two things I've looked forward to. I would love for my kids to go to one of those schools. Yeah, but I'm gonna say I look forward to knowing my child is not gonna have no student loan debt. Like go, do your thing, whatever you wanna go. But I think when I grew up, at least in my personal situation, it was just kind of always accepted. Like, I was gonna go to college, I was gonna try to get into the best one, but no matter what happened, I was gonna go to a college and you know, my parents, the college that I went to probably cost $75,000 a year right now. What is that? Vassar College, at the time, when I went it was like 20, 25, I'm sure it's close to 75. Dude, that's insane. 75,000. I just can't, you know. Four years ain't bad though. 500 grand. A year, 75,000 a year. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. And I got two kids. So you're looking at a million. No way. Cash. Vassar can't be 75, Chris. Oh, I'm sure it is. I still owe $80,000. You still owe $80,000? So what? Charlotte may want to tell you something today. Charlotte, say it. No, I don't. If you don't have, if you haven't figured out what it is that you wanna do, or you don't have another skill set. Yeah, yeah, look. If you don't have a skills, like Andrew, you got a skill set, I got a skill set.  No, no, no, but no, I disagree. I disagree. I think if my kids wanna be a lawyer, or an engineer, or a doctor, something that requires a very specific type of degree to practice, then yes, they need to go to college and get that. What about entrepreneurship? Yeah, yeah. What do they want to learn business? Wait, wait, wait, wait. It used to be- Chris, Chris, this is very important to acknowledge. Still the fastest way to increase your status in American society and most societies is education. In 2019. In 2019? I think that's gonna shift. And that's fair, but currently, the fastest way to go from lower class to middle class in the world is education. And historically, that's been the case. But, and it still is. For example, if you go to school, you get an engineering degree. Sure. You will go from lower class to upper middle class the second that you get out of school. So we can't say don't go to college. Let me frame it slightly differently. I'm talking about people- Don't study dance in college. Thank you, that's what I was about to say. People like me who had a vague sense, I wanted to be in media. I wanted to be a writer. Right, right. Those are things that don't exactly require education. That's a luxury that you literally can't afford anymore. If you're literally just trying to scrape yourself out of poverty like so many people use college for, it is incredibly valuable. And those people often have a specific thing that they're trying to get. It's privileged folks that go to, like your kids who might go to school going, I'm gonna study poetry. And let me try to figure it out.  Let me try to figure it out. That is the waste of money. Because we're not climbing out of something.   Taylor set that one up? Taylor ain't set that one up. Oh yeah, that was Felicity Huffman.  Taylor, you really killing it.  God damn, Taylor. Taylor, wow. What else you got?  I don't care about the life gen. Yeah, life gen is what we compare. I didn't even know that was life gening song. I saw, I didn't. I saw Amanda Seales post a video and I thought her reactions to the song was funny.   And I had no idea it was life. So I posted it and I put, yo, whoever, I said songs like this let me know people don't have friends. And Keith's life got on Instagram and it was like, yo, you don't support my positive music and me singing about sex.   You can sing about sex all you want. All I'm saying is this song was horrible. And life gennings, life gennings is great. Life gennings has been great forever.  I didn't even think it was life gennings. I literally saw people saying that in my comments. Like he sounds like life. He sounds like life.  I honestly thought that in my mind. So when he did the video getting at us, I'm like, oh, no, no harm, no foul. Cause he said we don't support his music. Life, you've been on the breakfast club a few times. Like you can come on the breakfast club now if you want to, if you got a new project out.  Like why wouldn't we not support your music? All I'm simply saying is that record was white. Right. It had nothing to do with anything. It didn't have anything to do with you selling sex, selling negativity. I didn't care about none of that.  He apologized though. What did you apologize? You apologized, but still got mad at us. Why did you apologize, but it still got mad at us. And by the way, I'm not even, I don't even care. I see everybody saying stuff like, the song's called beat it like a slave. You shouldn't make light of slavery. And it's not like, no.  Shake, make your legs shake like a wet dog. Like, life. Come on, bro. You wrote must be nice, my G. Like, come on, man. Hey, you're a great artist.    Do pussies drip when they come out the shower?  Like pussies don't drip when they come out the shower, right?  I'm still getting over this frog thing. Don't think about it too much. You said the master thing, I didn't like that. But outside of the master, the frog thing, help me understand this. Hop like a frog, are you hopping? I don't even remember the line. What was the line? I can't find the lyrics. I don't know. All I'm simply saying is life, if you're listening, I had no problem. I didn't care for the content of the music. I just thought it was a terrible song. Like, I didn't, it's not that deep. I didn't think you was being negative.  Why would I care if you sing about sex? Like, who do you think? Frogs is just odd. It was so bad that I would never have thought, I not once did I think, oh, this is really life genics. I literally said to myself, who is this doing this bad life? Genics impersonation. I literally thought that in my mind. You know what I'm saying?  Wish you the best. He even said something at the end.  I don't have no charges. Right.  Right, let me see. That's a false equivalency.  I don't know what that means. Let me read it. Okay. Let me see. Yeah, go through all this.  Got your legs shaking like two wet dogs. This ain't the part we fall in love.  Do all the things we never do.  Can we go back? Can we go back? Got the whips and chains. Can we go back? Call me master. Before we get there. Okay, hopping like a frog. I just need to understand what that means.  I don't understand what, what?  Okay, that makes sense. Dripping pussies, I get it.    I would be, if a girl just started going, rip it. And just bouncing. Rip it. She just snatches a mosquito out the sky with her tongue. Dude, you know how frightening that would be? I would tell my writing. I got you hopping like a frog, but frogs don't bounce up and down. No, they don't, they jump forward. They leap. They leap. Yeah, they don't bounce repeatedly. So hopping like a frog would imply that she wants to get away from him. She's trying to leave. Got your legs shaking like two wet dogs.  Now let's go now. I got your legs shaking like two wet dogs. And by the way, this makes- That's eight total legs. By the way. How many legs do you need for your metaphor? That line makes perfect sense. To shake it like two wet dogs. But it's not sexy. When two wet dogs, if a dog walked in here right now and shook everybody's like, oh! You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like it's not, it's nothing sexy about that. Isn't that what you say white people smell like? Or wet dogs? Huh? I guess you can. But you have dogs legs already. Maybe dogs legs shake already, but I understand what you're saying. So the legs are shaking. That kind of makes sense. It's just- This ain't the part we fall in love, cool. This is the part we kiss and fuck, cool. Do all the things we said we'd never do. But then you go, I'm gonna beat it like a slave.  Got the whips and chains. Call me master.  Work you every day. Do everything I say. I'm your master. I'm just like- I'm not gonna lie, kind of like that part. He says this is his latest and final album. Okay. I can see why. I'm just saying life, you know what I'm saying? But once again, I don't have a problem with the record other than it's just not a good record. That's it. And I'm sure- I gotta listen to it first. I gotta listen to the album. Yeah, I gotta listen to it.  That's just not a record. So, you know. I need to hear from women. If there ever been a moment where you felt like hopping during sex, I just need to understand that. I'm really, I'm trying to understand that. Bouncing. If you said bouncing like a ball, I would get it. Yeah. Hopping like a frog. No. You wanna show us? Yeah, show us. Show us what you're talking about. Okay, well now make some shots. Life might be on or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see Taylor, come on. You could really robot like- Taylor, come on. Let's see. You might be on or something. So, you're on?  If you're on, if you're riding a guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And instead of using your knees and you're on, this is like, but it's not a frog. Yeah. Ribbit? Ribbit. Can you say ribbit when you do it? Say ribbit. Ribbit. Ribbit. Well, that's not the only thing I'm gonna think of. Okay, I get it, but I still don't agree.  Yeah, they go away. A frog does not hop in place.    Boom. Oh, it broke the room already, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm lying.   I'm lying. Listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're swat, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. Yo, he really jumped high there. I'm like, all right. You were hopping like a frog right there or something. Shout out to life. Life might be honest. Life, you might be honest.  My bad, yeah, you know what life? My fault. Yo, we really didn't get it.  We make these girls hop like frogs. My fault, bro. All right.  As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right.   Thank you for listening. Dicks. 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