Aloha, and welcome to this episode of the Hawaii Smooth Jazz Connection. I am your host, Gwendolyn Harris. My guest today is a native of Detroit, Michigan, who is a musician, composer, and arranger. He is a proven entertainer for music lovers of all generations. He is open for numerous contemporary musical giants such as Stevie Wonder, George Benson, The Average White Band, Temptations, Pieces of a Dream, and many others. His latest single, My Joy, is climbing the charts. I am happy to have him here today. Let's welcome Lord Jansy to the show. Aloha. Aloha. It's good to be with you. And welcome, welcome, welcome.  I love that hat. Well, thank you very much. Let's get started. I know a lot of people want to know, how did you get your start in music? Let me see. It takes me back a couple of years. Go ahead. Tell us. Tell us. In my family church, I used to go every Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Friday, and it seemed like Saturday, Thursday. But anyway, on this one particular Sunday, a gentleman came and he had brought this instrument. And I knew what this guy was about to do. And anyway, he pulled that instrument out and he went into a song. I can remember the song. It's called I Go To The Rock. He lived into it so heavy, so hard, with such an authority. And church folks call it the anoint. So that he just, I don't know, something pervaded through that horn and it became the flow through the atmosphere. And I felt something different. I felt something that made me very curious to know, how did you do this? Someone, other sisters and members, they were just, they were cutting up lady to a baby up in the head, brother jumped over the bench, he rang the car. The baby, the baby was good, but the spirit was great. And so afterwards, I had to meet this gentleman, find out what that shiny thing was in his hands. And he was so kind and gracious that he'd say, come on, let me show you, let me hold it. And it was a wrap. It was over.  You just tell your story. I love the way you tell that story. I love the way you tell that story. Now, what were some of your musical influences? Of course, starting in the church. We still listen to a general by the name of Johnston, who was a gospel section. He was good. Oh, man, he was good. Man, I made a mistake and I heard this guy named Grover Washington. Yes. this guy named Robert Washington. Yes. All bets was off dead. Okay. We listened to the second music in my house. So, uh, Robert Washington, he was kind of a no no at that time. And just like, you know what, if that's gonna send me to that place with that guy with the pitch board there in the flames and a barbecue, of course, I just got to go there. Because that music of Robert Washington, it spoke to you. And I tell you, it spoke to thousands of us around millions of us around the world inspired to, uh, to stay in music and to, uh, aspire to be more. But they had to go over, started listening to Coler Train and a couple of other full founders of the genre that we love called jazz. And there's just so many to name. That's just a few. Now, where did you study music? I went to interlocking. And then I went to University of Michigan. And of course, high school as well. So those three places kind of gave me what I needed to come out of the world and do what I do. How many instruments do you play? Being a musician? Being a musician. Well, you know, when you, I started out thinking I was going to be, come on school and become a band director. But during that time, you could throw in so many different instruments in your face and you have to learn the basics of all of them. But I would say kind of the ones that stuck was piano and sags. I can do a little something on quite a few instruments, but those piano, saxophone and flute. And those woodwind instruments, right? Oh, yeah. That's right. We're going to leave that brass. See, I grew up playing music, so I love music. So I know what you're talking about starting, because I started at the age of six. So, but I need to get back into playing. I got out of it when I graduated college. I don't know why, but you know. Time is not. What's your favorite genre of music to play? Ah, favorite genre of music. I don't have a favorite genre of music. My favorite, I played classical in college. I played jazz. I played gospel in the church. Let me see. I played R&B. I worked with some blues artists. I worked with some, I could keep country artists, so music. Right. Category, I don't even care about the category. Whatever's going to speak to that person in the audience and give them something that's going to inspire them a week or a day. That's my favorite genre of music. I like that answer. I like that answer. Just play music. It's music. Now, with this COVID, of course, we're still in this COVID pandemic. And last year, it pretty much put everything to a halt. As far as musicians, you know, you guys couldn't go tour. It was just hard. What did you do during that time to keep your mind busy and to, you know, keep going? That's a really good question. I think only first starting about two, three months, I'm probably going to speak for most musicians. We all were ready just to pull our hair out of it. There's nothing like being in front of an audience, giving what you give and giving what they did. So I just realized that we had a different place here. I got to make something happen. And so what I did was I went in the studio and I just started writing and writing, but all of a sudden I was like, hey, Nancy, we're doing a Zoom-based disc than the other. So I'll tell you a lot of Zoom concerts or organizations for churches. And that's why I stayed busy creating and performing.  Actually, I have. Actually, I have. Yeah, quite a bit over the last two months. What's that feel like to get back on stage in front of people? It feels like you're where you belong. But when you, like me, taking this whole pandemic that very serious, it's, you're going to do a film about wanting to make sure that you're safe and that you're protecting those that you love, you know, the grandmother that I love to visit. And I mean, again, you just might want to hug. It's just a lot that you think about why you're out there, but you call it to be there. So I mean, you have to do what you have to do. And of course, being in front of live audiences now, it's kind of hard. I guess usually, like here at the Blue Note, they used to, after the shows, you know, the performers would come out and greet the audiences. But now it's kind of hard with that because either they're not going to do it or you have to mask up or you can't get too close to them. That's that's different, isn't it? So it feels different to you. It is very different. Well, the audience, they don't seem to mind. Many folks in the audience, right? They don't care about my mask. And other times I heard, can I have a picture? Can I have a picture? And then they looked up at you. Can we take your mask off? So it's very interesting being at this. Well, I'm just hoping it's over soon so that you guys can get so we can get back to normalcy, you know, when it comes time to the performances. Now, you've played with many people, you've opened for a lot of people. Where would be your dream collaboration? Who would you just love to do? Would you just love to collaborate with? You know, that's that again, isn't interesting. And the answer is not so kind of dry. For me, it's working and networking with any artist that has a positive message and they were using their gift and they are to make the world better. So it's not a particular person.  They want to make that that's it. Now, tell us about about this new, your new song, My Joy, which I absolutely love. What was the inspiration behind that tune? Many of these songs that one and wants to follow. We knew that it was rough out there and people needed something that would make them move and exercise and make them feel good on the inside. So, you know, connecting with some of my buddies in Detroit, we got busy writing together and My Joy was further. Now, here's a question for you. And I asked this of all the artists. There are a lot of saxophones, even though you play many instruments, but we really know you on the saxophone. So there's a lot of saxophonists out there in the music industry. What sets you apart from the others? Hmm. I would say that my varied experience with classical, as gospel has given me a different I can say this different span on how I deliberate. It's probably my intention. I'm on stage. It's not about the artist. It's not about the ego. It's about giving that audience something. So it's a different way that the same one comes out different than it might come out. Maybe it's the experience, maybe it's the passion. Maybe it's a number of things, but for the most part, I would say it's something about passion that I've got to touch with people and reach them. You can see them come in one way, the concert one way, and they leave out the hold. That's from the note that the spiritual aspect was communicated and you've done your job as that's the tool of it. Now, you have many organizations that are dear to your heart, but what's the world, the one that is most dear to your heart? What organization is that that you work with? I've worked with a lot of different nonprofits, but I would say that I have a passion for working with children and inspiring them. Working on a new program now that will kind of get out there and talk to these young men and boys that are coming up who may not have good role models, whose mental conditioning may need just a little bit of inspiration. So we're going to bring in some professionals I know and meet that, marry that with the children and just offer them a glance of the world in a different way that they may never see it. If someone like me won't come along, sure. Now, I think you're going to play for us today, right? A little something for us? I can do that. Yeah, we make that happen. You make that happen? Yes. You want to set it up? Yeah, you can set it up. Sure, let's do that. I'm going to let you tell us what you're going to play. This particular song is entitled Happy. And it's not one of those songs that the audience has to be with me. It makes them feel good. And I want to share it with your audience too. So I'll see what we can do. Okay, I need to find out where you're playing next and come see. Glad to see you. And we're going to get to that in just a minute. We'll get to that in just a minute. But I'm looking around your studio and I see all your instruments is there a particular brand of instrument that you play, not brand, you have brand of saxophone that you prefer? That's a really, that's a good one. That's a good one. I've got a lot of sounders. I've got a lot of instruments. So I don't really want to say that. He answered that question just yet. I'm working on a new endorsement song. Oh, okay. I do endorsement. Yes, I'm not going to say. I feel you. I feel you. But I just was noticing it. And I was just, I was just admiring all of your, your, your instruments back there. You can't see the whole scope. I've got stuff. I'm pretty sure. I'll get my way. Okay. The kids. Oh, wow. That's nice. Absolutely. Absolutely. Very passionate about that. We have a brother to see a child with an instrument in their hand that I've gone any day. Oh, wow. Over the years, that's been a program that I've supported and made sure that if I see his promise of student, I make sure they got what they needed. They can afford it and step in and when they can have it. Wow. That's, that's awesome. Now, what advice? There's a lot of musicians that are, that are coming out. There are a lot of new musicians coming out. What advice would you give a new artist coming into the industry today? What advice would I give? I would tell them to honor your work, honor your commitments. Don't give, give more than what's required. Don't make this business about your ego. Make it about the fans that you represent. I would tell them to make sure you got a good PI person like this Desiree Benson. Make sure you got good management. Make sure you got a good support team because team is everything. And there's a whole lot of more things that I would say, but that'll take longer than the time we have today. What new projects, if any, are you working on? Are there any shows, virtual shows coming up that we should be marking on our calendars? You know, music. I got a lot of new music coming out. It's coming out. Yeah, but it's a whole lot. So definitely stay tuned to the social media platforms, the website, and yeah, yeah, a lot of new music. But performances, yeah, there's quite some shows coming up as well. Where can, where can people go to find out, to find your, to find your, to find your music and to find your performances, like me? Primarily all of that is uploaded to moreyansomusic.com, as well as going to Facebook and Instagram, L, Yanniston. So everything going on would make it on those platforms. Wow. What do you like to do? What do you like to do in your spare time? Because I know you're so busy. Spare time. What is that? Oh, in my spare time, I like to work out. I like to read. Spend time. I love reading. They have good conversations with good friends. I just want to know how I love to travel and do photography. Wow. Okay. Well, our time has come to an end. I'm looking in our little chat. You know how we do these interviews now from Zoom? I'm looking through my chat. So our time has come to an end. But I thank you so much. First of all, for staying up late to do this interview and for the technical difficulties we had prior to the show. But I thank you so much for staying up late doing the interview. And of course, you know, giving us a little sample of what you do. I'm definitely going to be looking you up. I'm definitely going to be finding out where you are and come to see you in person. And maybe one day, you'll get to come to Hawaii here. You've been there seven times. Really? I've been to places in the whole wide world. I've seen parts of this world. But we'll have to get you back over here. If you have not been to Hawaii, you've got some special stuff about the island. Just choose one. We'll definitely have to get you back over here. Again, thank you so much for being with us and to my viewers until next time. Aloha and Douglas.


Welcome to the first sense on for former protection. The focus of this sense on will be former confidentiality. In this sense on, we're going to build a very simple application and we will program the binary to the board. After that, we will connect to the board using STM32Q programmer and try to read a former content from internal flash. And next, we will set RDP to level one and try to read again the user flash content. At the end, we will make a RDP level regression from 1 to 0 and see the behavior. We will also make a very minor modification of the application and program the new version application to the board. Hardware board to be used for this sense on will be G071RB nuclear board. And apart from that, you will also need to prepare some tools and software. For example, you need to download the hands-on package corresponding to this hands-on. We have some pre-created projects. You don't have to do everything from scratch. And we will also use STM32Q programmer. In terms of IDE, it's OK to use NF3 listed here, IR, KO, QBIDE. We will also need a terminal tool on the PC to get a print message from the board. On my side, I will be using the entire term. For you, you can use any terminal tool on the PC as long as it works. If you have downloaded hands-on package, you should be able to see some project zip files. And the one that we are going to use for this hands-on will be this one, g0app.zip. You can just unzip this project file. And then you will get all the necessary files for the project and you can just build from there. If you have everything ready, then we can start. OK, this is the first hands-on for former protection. We're going to use some project that has been created previously so that you don't need to do everything from scratch. So for this hands-on, if you have downloaded the hands-on package, you should be able to find several zip files for different projects. So for this one, we're going to use this one. If you unzip those files, you should see something like this. And then for this first hands-on, we're going to use g0 and sort app project. So here, in this folder, you will see three projects. It's actually the same project, but using different IDs. So you can choose the one that you like or the one that you have. OK, so just open the project and do a compilation. You can do it on your site. We can take a look at the source code. See what it's doing. This is actually a very simple application. The project is generated from KubeMX. So in this folder, you can also see the KubeMX project file. If you wish, you can also go open this file and go inside to see what is there. It's basically just I create this project using KubeMX and choose the board of g0, 7, 1, RB, new Clio and keep all the default configuration for all the peripherals. So it will generate the base of the project. The only modification I made is the clock frequency. So I changed the clock frequency to make it running at the highest speed for this GIF set. OK, that's it. So it will generate the main code, the BSP, driver initialization code, and so on. On top of that, I just added a few more lines. Here is the com init to initialize the UR port for the print message and then two function calls for initialization of application and the running of application. So this application is also very simple. It's just initialization. It's just a GPIO initialization for the LED4 because we're going to do a GPIO toggle at the end. And in the APP run function, there is a function call to a test. We are not going to use that test right now, but this will be used later on in the bootloader hands-on. So anyway, you can ignore that. There will be some print message coming from this test as well. And after that, it's just an endless loop doing the LED blinking. That's it. So if you have compiled the software, you can just download it to your board. I assume that you have a G071RB nuclear board on your hand. And so before programming to the board, let's connect to it and make sure we have it ready. Let's make sure that check the option byte. Make sure you're in RDP level zero and we remove all the protections. No security memory, okay. No write protection, no PCROP, okay. So now we have the correct option bytes. Then we do a foochie purees, okay. Then we have a clean board right now. Then we can download it either from, you can download the binary either from the IDE or from your Kube programmer. Both should be fine. So after programming, we can connect to the board through the power term just to get the print message coming out of the board. And then we do a reset. So now you can see some messages printed from the application. Right now, you don't see any LED blinking. That is because this test function didn't return yet. You can press X to exit from the test menu. Then LED blinking will start. Okay, then the next practice we're going to do is to set RDP level to one. So we will do it in the Kube programmer. So we set RDP to level one. Before doing that, let's just take a look at the flash content. So right now, if I do a read of the flash starting from the base address of internal user flash, I can read the content. If you make it bigger, you can also read more. You can actually read a full former binary from the flash. Then let's change it to level one. But be careful, don't shoot CC here. Make sure you just choose BB because CC means level two. And you know that level two means JTEC is closed. So you will not be able to connect to your board anymore. So if you don't have a software that is able to update your software, you have a dashboard, you will not be able to connect it anymore. You cannot upgrade. You cannot change the form around on the flash anymore. So be careful, don't choose that. Choose BB, apply. Okay, let's connect and connect again. Now you will see error message saying that data read failed. That's normal, that's expected because that's the purpose of RDP level one. So in this case, you will not be able to read anymore the internal flash content. Actually, you will not be able to erase the content either from JTEC port. For example, if I try to do a sector erase here, there will be an error. Or if I want to do a foochip erase, that's also not possible. Okay, so now at this moment, if I want to change the software on the flash, I want to make a new version. For example, if I can comment out just this line and make a build again, seven. So if I want to download this new version of firmware, the first thing I need to do is to do RDP regression from level one to level zero. So you can do it using the programmer again line. Then now we can read the flash content again, but then you can notice that all the firmware that we previously programmed to the flash is gone. Disappear, because RDP level one to level zero regression will trigger also a mess erase. So the full user flash space will be cleared. Okay, but now we are able to download another version of the software. Okay, let's do it. We can download this new firmware, assuming this is a new version. And then we can reset the board and see the print message. Okay, we reset the board. Then you can see the print message is a little bit different than before. There's no more test menu from the application and the LED four is blinking right away. So if you do a reset, see, okay. So now you know how RDP level one, maybe two also can be used to protect your firmware on the flash from any access from the debug port and how you can do an RDP regression from one to zero. And then you can program another version of the firmware to your board. Let's do a recap of this Samsung. So in this Samsung, you have seen how we can use RDP to protect the firmware confidentiality and what is the effect when RDP is set to level one. What is needed if a new version of firmware need to be programmed to the chip when RDP is already set to level one and how to do RDP level regression from level one to level zero.


And we're back, this is Stu Miniman with Wikibon here with Silicon Angles live continuous coverage from EMC World 2013. Day one, it's Monday, got three days of theCUBE, wall-to-wall coverage from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. watch live on siliconangle.com and see replays on youtube.com slash siliconangle. Here in the Brocade data center network transformation segment. And we've got a customer on here joining me is Tim Stevenson, senior systems engineer with First National Technology Solutions. Tim, welcome to theCUBE. Thanks, it's good to be here. So Wikibon was founded on allowing peers to share with peers. So what we want to do is kind of a mini case study, look at your environment, show what you're doing and what advice you would have for your peers as to what they're doing. So can you tell us a little bit about yourself, what you do in your company? Sure, like you said, I'm a senior architect on the team developing our solutions for our customers and also working with the customers to help develop their customized solutions within our environment. Okay, and the First National Technology Solutions, where are you located? Do you line up business and focus? We're out of Omaha, Nebraska. We originally grew out of First National Bank of Omaha. That's how we got our name. And we provide infrastructures as a service, managed services to our customers and cloud-based solutions. Okay, so you're a service provider then? We are a service provider. Okay, excellent. Across a lot of platforms. How long have you been doing infrastructure as a service then? So we've been doing infrastructure as a service since the late 90s. Wow, okay. So back to the kind of the original XSP days.  Yeah, well, they did. Okay, great. So, and from an architectural standpoint, what's in your domain? So within my domain is primarily storage and virtualization platforms. So, you know, the Brocade products that we use, the EMC storage that we use, our VMware platform, Cisco UCS, all of that. Okay, can you give us a little bit of some speeds and feeds? How big's your data center? How much storage, servers, you know, what are you running? So physically our data center's about 200,000 square feet. Okay, we are running the Brocade DCXs at the moment, but we're getting ready to put in the 16 gig switches. As we're expanding our fabric up onto a new floor for some expansion, we're running about one and a half petabytes of storage at the moment. And you said it was EMC, which is VMAX, VNX? It is VMAX, VNX, Iceland, and in about a week we're going to have the Extreme IO on our floor. Excellent, all flash. All flash. Okay, excellent. Yeah, we'll get back to flash definitely in this and you're running VMware for virtualization? We are. Okay. Yeah, we're on vSphere. Oh, we're sure we are. Well, we've got a mixture of four and five right now.  So, no, actually we have customers coast to coast. We have a lot of customers on either coast and in the Gulf that want a location for disaster recovery, as a for instance, where we're not affected by the same things they're affected by. So we typically don't get hurricanes in the middle of the United States and we don't have very many earthquakes. Okay, excellent. And Nebraska, the cost per square foot isn't too bad. It's pretty reasonable, yeah, compared to either coast. So it makes a pretty cost effective solution as well. Okay, great. So tell me how long have you been working with Brocade as a partner? I've been working with Brocade for about, well, off and on for about seven years in total. Okay. So back when I was working for an insurance company we switched over to Brocade, went over to first national bank, we were using something else, switched over to Brocade because the other thing wasn't performing the way we wanted it to and we knew that Brocade would. Okay, so if I think about service providers, one of the challenges usually is growth. How fast are you adding, how many new ports and how do you do that and what's your speed to deployment on these kind of things? All right, so our speed to deployment really is dependent upon our customers but we are growing, adding ports, adding storage. We're growing at about almost 100% a year. Okay. So we're a little bit over industry standard. Okay, and how's your network and does Fiber Channel kind of meet that growth pretty well? Fiber Channel is pretty much the only network that's going to meet that growth requirement that we have and keep the performance at the levels that we need it to or for our customers because our IO, you know, our IO load doesn't match the norms of a standard company because we have literally hundreds of companies that are hosting their most important systems in our facility. So the IO requirements that we have are much, much higher than a standard company would have. So we have to have equipment that performs at a much higher level than you necessarily would have to have within a given enterprise. Okay, it's interesting. I've talked to many service providers that are running Ethernet, even many brocade service provider partners that are running Ethernet. So, you know, explain to me what is Fiber Channel doing for you that Ethernet can't? So at least as it stands right now and I expect that Ethernet's going to change over time and become a more stable platform for it. But really what the Fiber Channel does for us is it gives us that rock solid performance every time, all the time, no matter what we do to it, it is going to perform and it's not going to be the bottleneck. The bottleneck's going to be in the storage platform or it's going to be on the server side or somewhere else, but not in that Fiber Channel network. Yeah, Tim, as we used to say in the storage world, the networking folks that have to deal with storage think that QOS is a four letter word. So it seems like that is what you're saying. So it's not necessarily the speed performance but the reliable, I know what I'm getting, I know always what I'm getting and that's what Fiber Channel delivers for you. It's predictable. And predictability is key when you're providing services for somebody else. Yeah, I wonder if we could talk a little bit about Flash because one of the things our CTO from Wikibon, David Foyer, said, Flash is all about kind of latency in performance but predictability of that latency is even more important than the low latency. So you're bringing Extreme IO in, what's your experience been with Flash so far? We do have Flash in almost every one of our storage arrays as they stand right now. Where we run into problems is when we start to load, we have customers that have requirements for a single application to have between 15 and 25,000 IOs per second of throughput, which is pretty substantial. You put a couple of those on a VMAX and you can potentially overrun it depending on how they're reacting. So bringing Extreme IO in that can handle a million IOs per second and keep the performance where it needs to be because these are critical business intelligence decision-making applications that they're using and they don't have time to wait for an answer to come back which is why we're switching over to some of these technologies. Okay, have you guys tried any of the server-based Flash? No, okay. We have not. Fair enough, moving on then. Pick comment, no? Well, no. Okay, I'm good. Sorry. No worries. Can you talk about just that marrying of storage and network? What's your team make up? How many people? Is the storage people that manage the network or what's that configuration? Actually the storage people do manage the network. The fiber channel network. There's a separate team for Ethernet because those types of people typically don't think the same. Tell me the question again. What's the size of the group there? Oh, it's actually just a handful. There's probably about four or five people that work on it on a regular basis that manage all of the storage which is about, like I said, one and a half petabytes at the moment. It'll be two petabytes in another four months. Okay, and they manage the sand also. And they manage the sand as well. Okay, and how big's the sand? How many ports? All the ports. We've got two Tubercade DCXs that are just about full so I would say there's a good 300 ports. Okay, so maybe let's talk a little bit about the applications. What are people hosting on your environment and what services do you offer? Sure. People are hosting, the easy answer is they're hosting everything in our environment. Their entire production systems, we go across a wide range of platforms. It's not just Windows and Linux in the cloud. We've got AS400 or i-Series in the cloud. We've got AIX in the cloud and we've got our Z-Series or mainframe in the cloud as well. And we provide managed services across all of that and virtualized services across all of that. So that's kind of a broad brush look at what our environment is. It's just about everything. Well, okay, and talk a little bit about what does data center transformation mean to your company? Well, data center transformation, if you look at it, an example, one example that I could probably cite is a customer that we just recently migrated into our cloud environment that has a mixture of a bunch of different platforms is building a new building. They're not putting a data center in it at all because we're their entire data center. Everything is becoming virtualized, it's becoming very small, managed by somebody else, and just purchased as a service. That's where we're seeing the data centers go. Pretty much across all of our clients. So, Tim, I'm wondering, do you have a take on SDN and what that's doing to the networking marketplace? I don't. Well, once again, that's on the ethernet side. So, you're more on the fiber-candle side. It's quite all right. What's been your experience with 16GIG then? We'll come back to that. So, with 16GIG, I mean, we're looking forward to it. We don't have it in our environment right now. We have plans and we have actually, I mean, we're in the process of being quoted for the new equipment and getting the 16GIG in. We're designing for it right now, but I would say as of right now, we don't have a lot of experience with it because we don't have it in-house. Okay, fair enough. I guess you've got experience with kind of the jumps before. Usually, the speed bumps are nice. You might be able to consolidate some boards. But there's new services that you can offer, right? One of the things that we're also going to start putting into place is the v-sanding technology that Rokade provides to help us really shape some of that traffic. Since we're now going to be splitting across multiple floors in the data center and doing some of that, we want to really kind of manage our traffic better. And so some of the technologies that Rokade has built in are going to really help us to do that and manage that traffic proactively and make sure that it's going where it needs to go to maintain those performance levels exactly where we need them. Okay, yeah, could you just, what's that mean to your operators kind of on a day-by-day basis? Well, for our operators, because Rokade is so rock solid, it means that they actually don't have to touch it a lot. They set up, they set things up, and for the most part, let Rokade do what it does, which is to manage that traffic and place it where it needs to be in the timeframe it needs to be there, every day without stop. Okay, great. So Tim, yeah, let me see. We're here, EMC World. This is Stu Miniman with Wikibon. Tim, final word I want to give you is, can you talk a little bit about, as customers decide whether to kind of upgrade their environment in-house or move to a service provider, what kind of benefits do you see for driving to the service provider environment? So, some of the big things that, the big benefits that they get is, obviously not spending the capital, not having to invest in all the additional new technologies. I mean, there's such a wealth of new technologies that are coming out, and skill sets that are required within the data center. That companies are having a hard time keeping up with it. So, really being able to rely on a service provider like ourselves that has a broader depth of skill sets and knowledge and people to absorb those new technologies into is really kind of a, it's a big benefit to the individual companies. To be able to hand that off and know that it's going to be taken care of and that they're not going to have to invest in it, invest in the people, invest in the training and the technologies. All right. Well, let's still get a piece of that really good, that good pie that everybody wants of all the new, all the new technologies that give them the services that they want. All right. Well, Tim Stevenson, First National Technology Solutions, thank you for sharing kind of your journey on network transformation. This is Stu Miniman with Wikibon. We'll be right back after this quick break with our next guest here from EMC World, Las Vegas, 2013.


SEGA DRUNK I think we can all safely agree that there's certain types of games the Sega Genesis simply executes a lot better than the Super Nintendo can. I'm referring to stuff like Gunstar Heroes, Alien Soldier, and Ranger X. Yes, that's right, another absolutely crazy chaotic game filled to the brim with carnage, featuring some awesome boss design and some of the most incredible graphics you'll see anywhere. I mean, just take a look at what's going on right away in the first level. You're on some kind of ultra-powered bike getting bombed to oblivion with enemies above you, while other enemies come swarming in from all angles. And while all that is going on, you can see a city off in the distance getting fired upon. That is some awesome attention to detail. And in a nice touch, the stage even concludes having you take out the weapons, doing the bombing. And then from there you find a boss that takes up over half the screen and you shoot its legs from underneath it and it comes crashing down. Just spectacular. So underneath all the spectacle, what really is going on here? Well, a lot, as it turns out. And the action here is formatted to the Genesis controller, which is pretty interesting. The A button fires to the left and the C button fires right. Left and right on the D-pad will make you move in that direction, but it won't change the direction you're facing. It's a bit goofy at first, but with a little practice it works pretty well. The B button is reserved for special weapons and items, everything from bombs to clear screen attacks to a flamethrower, to this really cool mechanical bird that acts as a boomerang to jump you activate your jetpack by pressing and holding up. But if you hang in the air too long, your jetpack will overheat and you'll crash. That's what the meter in the lower right is for. In addition to that, there's also two vehicles you commandeer. You start out with the aforementioned motorbike the game refers to as the Indra. You can actually merge or transform into this thing, which is kind of cool. And when you're in that form you can move around faster and jump further if you hold down on the D-pad. When you're not using the Indra, if you're using a six button controller, you can actually control the bike on its own. Similarly with how you control your mech, with X moving it left, Z moving it right, and Y to switch your special weapon. Just bear in mind that the Indra has its own life meter, and if it runs out you die as well. It makes for a stressful experience in an already stressful playthrough, but it is really fun to try and manage both you and your bike separately through all this chaos. Later on in the third level you're introduced to the EOS, this flying thing that provides air support from above, but unfortunately there's no way to control the EOS independently. There's more, your special weapons operate in their own independent power meter in the lower right, and they charge by sunlight. Wait, what is this, Baktai? The sun is in your hand? Yeah, when you're outdoors the meter charges automatically, but if you want to use these weapons underground you have to fly up and punch holes through the ceiling to get some sunlight down there. Later on in the game, during nighttime levels, you have to rely on these lights to charge your weapons, and you definitely need them to take out these enemies and the later bosses. The second level in particular is insane because you have to manage your health, your jetpack energy, and your special weapon energy all while flying upward to the exit. It is really tough. I've described certain games in the past as easy to pick up and play, but difficult to master, but Ranger X is difficult to pick up and play, and even more difficult to master. The controls are unorthodox and complicated, and don't get me wrong, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think the biggest problem with this game is the second level which takes place underground. The first level does a good job of giving you plenty of space to deal with the barrage of stuff coming at you, but then you're suddenly navigating narrow tunnels and you don't have nearly as much room to move around, and as a result the controls are a hindrance and the game really gets frustrating. I would have no problem with this level if it were later in the game, but the fact that you have such restricted space to move when you're still getting used to the controls is really a downer. Now there's only a total of five levels here, so it's a short enough play through that it doesn't warrant a password system or any kind of save feature, but that doesn't mean it won't take you hours to finish this game. Ranger X kind of reminds me of Higane for Super Nintendo in that way. You're just given so many different capabilities with so many different things to manage that there's no way to just dive right in and be good at them immediately. However, the game is balanced well enough, for the most part, that there is a method to all this madness throughout. So yeah, Ranger X was virtually ignored at the time of its release, mostly because Sega was busy promoting their new CD add-on at the time, but man, oh man, this game is something. The graphics and art design are absolutely incredible, the sound design is fantastic, the music is awesome and fits the game perfectly, and the relationship between your character and your bike reminds me a lot of an art type game and how that series uses your ship and the force attachment. Yeah, the controls are a bit wonky at first, and the level design may not always match your character's abilities, but the best way I can describe this one is if you combine an art type game with something like Higane and mix in a little Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier. Ranger X may take a while to get used to, but it's still a great playthrough and an incredible spectacle to take in. And I want to thank you for watching, and I hope you have a great rest of your day.


Good morning. First of all, thank you for Taking this conference to Hong Kong. I'm so thankful to all the Alfred and house and society the LSE as well as the University of Hong Kong For organizing this It is a very important subject on urban planning particularly relating to our population demographic changes, so I'm I'd like to spend about 20 minutes to tell you a little bit about what we are doing but responding to what That I've said about Sun Yat-sen. I have to tell you the Sun Yat-sen is the first medical graduate of Hong Kong At that time, there's only 11 students he came first and There's only another pass, which is a supplementary pass The only Inequality is after he graduate he's not allowed to practice in Hong Kong because of all these British Doctors who are practicing in Hong Kong at that time, so he has to go to Macau and start his practice So I think things has changed now We have to ensure that everything is done in in coordination and able to Face the demand and also expectation of a society Okay now I Think the the topic is hell and the well-being and I don't like to Spend too much time defining these two because I believe there are other sessions who go into the look at those But it is very important that any society with hell and well-being it would lead to productivity We need to progress with little stability and if anything happens to Either of the three it would also inversely affects the Health and well-being of the whole community whole community, and this is the responsibly of governments to ensure We have a healthy and Well-balanced community in our society In Hong Kong, we always say that we are very proud to be a small government But in the recent years we find that In certain areas particularly in commercial areas that we like to have a free competition But in certain areas the government need to take a leading role as well My understanding of well-being to be very very brief is it has to be safe for everyone It's a caring society need to respect freedom human rights and needs to be a fair society That means everybody would have a equal opportunity within our society to move on to any endeavor that actually they like to do And for health, I think we are not Just concerning about physical health. We also concern about mental health We are talking about actually the perhaps even spiritual health because I think that's very important for everyone and We usually divide a government role in public health and healthcare Healthcare and public health is definitely a government's responsibility We'd never treat that as a commercial business. So this is very important that in our philosophy We need to look at the government's role in both In designing in planning and leading as well as in regulating our activities You have much better Diagrams and maps in the publication you have produced but this is the satellite picture of Hong Kong which shows that Because of our very mountainous terrain There's only limited area for development and for people who like Nature we have 40 percent of our land is country park So you can see this is perhaps one of the greenest part of the Quantum profits. In fact, if you take a satellite picture, you find that Hong Kong is actually one of the greenest area in the whole region I'll tell you a little bit about our Objective I can only mention in a macro way rather than looking at some of the missile and the Micro type of innovation that we are doing all the science we're doing But I think it's important to note that in public health We must try to maintain a low risk environment for everybody it in fact, we concentrate on the infectious diseases because like Any density populated city? It is always a very high risk For any city and Hong Kong is particularly so because not only because we have a large population of 7 million people Living in a very close area But at the same time we have a lot of people traveling back and forth and also from the mainland from the various other countries to Hong Kong and and and so on Just across the border to the mainland alone every day. We have over three hundred thousand people So you can imagine if any infectious disease occur It is hardly possible to screen everybody crossing the border every day and of course as a responsible government we need to keep health data in terms of Very vital statistics and already very timely information that we gather I Notice today that I think it is a little as I said from LSE that published We are the one of the longest living population in Hong Kong with almost 83 years Of course, that's something we are proud of it's also something we worry about In Hong Kong our statistics shows that average longevity of man is 80 and for Women is close to 86 Women's definitely a more superior Species I think in that area, but I think it's important to note that It is not just longevity that counts is the quality of life that counts And we want to make sure that our elderly folks able to enjoy life able to be productive able to maintain their well-being even they They are getting into the latest stage of their lives And of course preventive health is important and health education health information This is also a very important Responsibility of the government We over the years We have built two important centers. One is the Center for Health Protection. This follows the Believe you you all experience in some part of the world is the SARS Incidents in Hong Kong in 2003 so the center was set up in 2004 And now we are able to monitor all the infectious diseases In the region and particularly in Hong Kong and I get the report every week Regarding the incidence and also the trend of different infectious diseases on on my computer every day every week And at the same time We are able to communicate with the various Authorities in the region and also a WHO on any emerging and and we imagine diseases this is a very important part and Apart from Infectious disease. We are also moving on to non communicable diseases. We notice that the burden of NCD is much higher there is there was a United Nations high-level meeting just seen as in September Regarding this and we noticed perhaps the the most important burden in future would be on chronic diseases on Cancer and and so on so these are the things that might be need to concentrate on and now with the Progress of technology and medicine You are not talking about how to look after cancer patients and how they actually pass on with In the terminal stage many people actually have cancers that treated Recover and then you have developed a different type of cancer in the in the later years So this is very important for us to and concentrate on how to prevent and screen Certain type of cancers at the same time educate people to To know to note their own health status so that they can come off for treatment as early as possible We also have regular review of our vaccination policy in the recent few years We have increased the vaccination for influenza and also subsidizing them the elderly and also the the the young population We make sure that those people who cannot afford to have vaccination will have it free of charge And for disease surveillance as I mentioned earlier on is this very important for us to follow the disease pattern In recent years, of course because of a change of diet because of the change of lifestyle We are seeing more chronic diseases related to the cardiovascular system diabetes and so on and All population public health Authority need to regulate so we are regulating pharmaceutical products. We are regulating various things and at the moment I think what actually mentioned today. We are also looking at some of the health products like Powder milk and so on to ensure that the population were well-informed of the risks and also Perhaps sometimes the the claims of certain products so health information and information actually involves a lot of work from various sectors and for healthcare Our philosophy is we need to ensure that everybody would have an equal access for care And we should have a safety net for all so there's a common saying that that nobody should be deprived of care for lack of means and Robust public system is important And we have a very highly subsidized public system which look after a lot of patients particularly the sick and also the severely sick in Hong Kong and Because of that we need to maintain the international Healthcare standard and the medical standard this we actually relate to various professional expertise and various professions Another area that we are very concerned and we are very proud of the same time is the professional ethics of our medical carers As you know that doctor patient relationship is never equal doctors always can Advise patients to receive treatments actually when they're desperate, so it is important to to ensure The professional ethics is up to a certain standard and nobody would get inappropriate treatment or unnecessary treatment We also need to look after certain sector of the community Because the public system there always some disadvantage and those also some other associated problems like Long queues and also waiting time and so on so a public service is also One of the options for those people who can afford it So we feel that is also important for us to regulate the public sector and this initiative only started only seven years ago And I think with different types of initiatives And at the end of the day we got to make sure that our system is sustainable financially Healthcare can be a bottomless pit when it comes to financing and always you have Supply you always generate demand as well. So it is important to ensure public funding will go to the appropriate and also the Important essential services and not put to any ways. So this is a very challenging subject Which I believe every government is facing right now In the public healthcare system, we develop the hospital authority which developed in 1990 and both put into function in 1992 We set up certain priority for them because we understand that You cannot care for everybody at the same time. So we need to have some priorities So the parties is look after the poor and the needy those people who cannot afford to have private care We have no other access of care and of course also in emergency Surfaces we make sure this actually combines with the ambulance surfaces and various rescue surfaces One area I think Hong Kong is particularly keen is we need to also develop the expertise as well as the Follow the international trend of medical development. So we also invest into high risk high cost and high tech services things like Transplant things like very advanced type of research in cancer and chronic diseases and so on and the last element we very Also, we also think that is very important is the public system should be also the nurturing ground for Healthcare professionals so that they can have the good exposure of the experience of different types of patients They can also maintain a good ethical practice because in the public system Whether you see more patients or not you still being rewarded in the same way I think this is something that's very important particularly in in community like Hong Kong and at the moment I Have several level of care So this is just to tell you that the primary care side we have about 30% of public go to the public hospitals and Also 70% of them are being cared for by the private general practitioners and in hospital care We look after 90% in the public sector and private 10% and Many of the tertiary care that is very high-level care will be only done in specialized centers and also in our public hospitals Looking at the development of Hong Kong Most of the population are gravitated in around the harbour area So many of the hospitals in the past were built around those areas, but in the recent years we have Enlarge our urban area to vary A more more distant areas including the Lantau Island including the northern district including the the some of the eastern part of new territories, so Now health care service is divided into seven cluster and each cluster would have services including primary care A Q hospital of a certain standard which have an excellent emergency We have some essential specialties in emergency in medicine surgery, orthopedics, gynecology and obstetrics and so on And they also have extended care and confident care and rapid rehabilitation services as well So it is very much a self-contained design for a cluster Except a few things like specialized services What I'm talking about is like a liver transplant center and things like that is only done in one hospital We also look at mental health because mental health is not just a Healthcare done by the hospital authority alone. It requires also a lot of public support from the Welfare sector as well. So I think this is also designed a different way As I said earlier on some of the tertiary centers are designed so that it can look after special services We also planning to build Two centers one is for children one is for neuroscience because we feel that in these two areas There is a need to concentrate expertise and develop a good area for future development and research So some of the pictures of a late We developed hospitals and some of the very traditional hospital Queen Mary is one of the oldest and so is Queen Elizabeth But I think there are new buildings building on In order to expand their surfaces Rehabilitation hospitals are more spacious. They have also more facilities for people to stay longer and and develop their physical and Functional skills Cowling hospital and Typo hospital is another one More district hospitals are built in some of the satellite tanks of tranquil and always one of the latest And so it's about our hospital and we are building also two others right now one is in near the airport in Tongchong and then the other one is in tinsui way, which is in the very More distant part of the northern part and often it Western part of Yunlong And of course talking about hardware we need to also look at software and Quality and quantity is also important continuous education accreditation and professional boards and councils I Think there's no different for many of the developed communities The surface design we concentrate on would be need to be patient center We need to have a standardized facilities equipment That means anybody's go to Different acute hospitals will be more or less the same Facilities and and equipments they can get I think we invest a lot on the medical equipment so one of we are one of the most well-equipped communities in terms of medical equipment in Hong Kong We form a drug family because this is important because there's so many new drugs coming on the market and some are Very good some are not so good and some are actually not actually superior than the old ones So this is important for us to ensure with the expert advice that we've given by the various clinical experts we Try to ensure that we have the right mix of Medicine for our patients Of course, this would be reviewed rapidly and on a on at least a six month Basis so that new drugs will be added on old drug will be taken out and what I mean drug for me is something that is heavily subsidized by the government and so some new drugs they also start to have a subsidy to see whether this is actually Sustainable and we also have by a Semeritan fund and also external funds in order to ensure Some of the new drugs are made available to the appropriate patients And like all services particularly professional services, we need to have a clinical audit On a regular basis and for Hong Kong We also make a very important policy that we need to tell people what happens in a hospital Hospital is not necessary all safe. There are things happening there all day and we've got to make sure that a Event reporting system is there first of all is non punitive so that people get Wanted we will want you to report at the same time if something that's really serious We need to actually inform the public as well. So this top of transparency Policy is extremely important Another area we look at is healthcare findings financing the public system is heavily subsidized It costs us 40 billion Hong Kong dollars a year That is about 2.5 percent of our GDP and our total Healthcare expenditure in Hong Kong is roughly about 5 percent of GDP So half come from the public side our pocket insurance and half actually come from the government In the government We subsidize very high level anybody come to our clinics have to pay $45 for a general patient that's GP type of cleaning And for those who come to specialist clinic, they pay $60 and each each drug that would amount to perhaps Three months supply would cost them extra $10. So in fact, it's very highly heavily subsidized service for hospital inpatient care, they pay $100 a day and Irrespective of what they receive so they can have a liver transplant which they stay for 10 days So all they pay is 1,000 Hong Kong dollars and of course of for that Each of the transplant will cost per of the government about $800,000 so it's a very heavy subsidized service But we believe this is very important to upkeep the health standard of our citizens But despite of that we still need to have cost control and some standardization of fees and the government this term of government we have able to increase the recurrent funding on Public health and health care from 15 to 70 percent of our government expenditure The increase of the 2% roughly amounts to a recurrent expenditure of 10 billion dollars per year Okay, there are challenges of course we have a public system like that so Because we know that the capacity need to be increased at the moment. They are about 12 to 13 percent of our population is about the age of 65 and In 15 to 20 years This will amount to about 25 percent. That is from 1 8th to 1 quarter So we expect the need for health care will be much greater So we need to ensure that we have Sustainable resources to keep up with that so the demand for the capacity the long-waiting time And also the cost control is important and at the moment. Yes, I've told you earlier There's some unbalanced public and public market as well. So we do address that So our plan is to try to enhance the development also of the public market But it makes sure they also acquire the same quality and transparency as the public side. So we try to give healthcare vouchers in people in the Testing the the market. We also subsidize the vaccination program that be delivered by the private sector We also buy service from the private sector in terms of cataract operations and so on we also try to Influence the public hospitals. So now everybody agree that they would unify the hospital accreditation system and also invest into the electronic health record system Because of the demand for public and also public services I think we also would expand some of the public hospitals Build new hospitals in certain areas. But at the same time, we also putting out four pieces of land We'll be putting out four pieces of land for public hospital options So this will be something that we do in the next year The accreditation system is so important that because they would is ensure that all the public and private hospital would have the same Quality of monitoring of their standards At the moment, we are we are using the Australian Council on healthcare standards, which we developed together with the ACHS so There will be about 60 inspectors both from Locally being nurtured together with the international ones to go around to do the system accreditation scheme We expect the scheme will be completed for all hospitals within three to four years The other very important infrastructure is the electronic health record system I think we have already a very robust system within the public sector But not yet roll out to the public one in the in the recent two years We start to have sharing of information with the public sector, which has been proven quite successful But we need to move into a new platform so that it will be a patient-based type of electronic health record system So the only individuals can authorize access to his records by the But the individual himself so he can offer a certain hospital certain clinics to have access and he can also stop that We've he's not happy with that. So I think this is a New new concept, which we are having we going to be introduced and put into implementation in 2014 This will improve healthcare. This would ensure they will pop up referrals and communication and facilitate clinical audit and quality control In some way you also support research and reporting And of course with that system. We also need to ensure the privacy is well protected Talk a little bit about healthcare financing because all the time we are using taxpayers money for our public system We do not actually have any control on the private expenditure But knowing that increase in cost particularly in technology. We have to introduce a regulated insurance scheme particularly for the People who can afford it. So we decided that after two consultation in 2008 and 2010 That we need to introduce this voluntary medical insurance system We will be able to set standard and regulate it together with the support of the stakeholders There will be some subsidy so that we can sustain the coverage particularly for the elderly we enhance this would enhance the private hospital and also the regulation of public services because of All these schemes when they expect that with the 10% of inpatients now look after the Inpatients we can expect that there will be a certain growth in this percentage up to perhaps 20% to 25% in about 15 to 20 years So as a conclusion, I think time would not allow me to go into a lot of details It's only very macro approach to this subject Healthcare design is a very complex process in fact in fact involved many stakeholders But some elements we need to control particularly as the government one is the market One is the manpower and expertise And more importantly is the professional ethics Which is going to determine on the quality as well as the sustainability of a system the government need to Supply the essential and the basic surfaces and we must make sure it is sustainable financially So with that, I'd like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to share with you some of the things we are doing I'm much more looking forward to listening to many of your speakers and experts Coming today and also perhaps Participating in the discussion later on. Thank you very much Thank you very much for this very informative talk on health and well-being in Hong Kong And I think we should take time for a couple of direct questions and then enter the general discussion afterwards May I start taking up Ricky's remark? There's nothing more important than health. It's the most important law what is You're the position as secretary of health and well-being in Hong Kong with respect to all the other departments You feel you have the influence in Hong Kong to do what you need to do that to meet the challenges Is healthy priority you're what asked for? the government is Basically funding all the public systems including the public health system as well as the public Healthcare system so in a way the government actually have the authority to do that of course the We also need to have some freedom for people to innovate and the public services we allow them to be able to compete with each other, but of course the recent Demand from the public is we better make sure that they also as transparent Like the the public system and secondly the quality of care need to be monitored. I think we have the Professional system at the medical council that nursing council will look at the professions If they do something that is below the certain standard or actually in conflict with the core practice, of course, they would be Disciplined in a way But I think it's important for us to ensure that The essential elements that I mentioned earlier on the standard of care the capacity of care some of the Ethical standards we need to monitor and I think the government actually do have the Authority in the power to do so through our laws through our regulation scheme And perhaps also for a lot of peer pressure within the system and Within the government they listen to you Our government you talk about government actually our government has three parts One is the executive role, which is our responsibility The data is that the legislative council which actually monitors the government at the same time They ensure the right laws are being passed and being being being enforced and the third one of course is the judiciary which address some of the the conflicts and Try to make the right judgment Further questions, please mention your name and where you come from. Yes, please Yes, Dr. Chow, I noticed in your PowerPoint very encouragingly that you include Environmental health as part of your total package now in Hong Kong I think some areas of environmental health is not actually within your Purview and I wonder for example where the public health community as well as the environmental community have been urging That the air quality standards in Hong Kong should really come under The control of your department because that's really where you have public health expertise How do you see? How do you see what what you can do to to in a way fill out this gap in Hong Kong's public health? Well, I think we have a secretary for environment. So he has to have some work You cannot just But on the other hand I think the secretary for environment will look after a much broader perspective of the the macro environment for I think for our department our Government's role In a way, we we work with each other all the time our department of health experts also give advice to the Secretary for environment in terms of determining some of the standards and so on But it is important to to notice that In the small government at Hong Kong We actually work very closely together. There are many issues that we cause we need to cross bureau In order to come to a certain policy. So I think that there's nothing wrong with that But very importantly, we have to monitor the effects of certain environmental risk So that we can help the other bureau. So in a way, we are monitoring the The the number of people who are suffering from say respiratory diseases and Ashma and so on to see whether that is something that is Would be relevant to some of the regulation that is being enforced by the other bureaus And for that matter, I think I need to mention another thing that we are responsible. It actually is the smoking control Tobacco control and this is something that we feel that Hong Kong has done something that very drastically in the last few years and particularly able to Reduce a smoking rate from almost 20 something percent 20 years ago to down to now 11.1 So this is something that I think is related to our effort in both our bureau and department, but also in the community as a whole Okay, see three more questions. Yes Bruce Raymond Los Angeles a two quick question is professor First is most of the medicine is delivered here Eastern or Western or doesn't it make any difference and sat I know it makes a difference and secondly With what medical institutions and facilities outside of Hong Kong do you have your most serious direct and constant ties? The mainstream of medicine is western medicine So I think all our hospitals that I mentioned the 41 hospital within the hospital 40s are all practicing western medicine Chinese medicine is mainly a primary care type of setup We have at the moment 15 clinics of Chinese medicine that is sponsored or supported by the government But many of these Chinese medicine clinics are individual clinics run by the practitioners themselves We start to regulate the Chinese medicine practitioners and the Chinese medicine itself Into the year 2000. So it's almost now 11 years down the road We're able to register about 7,000 Chinese medicine practitioners, but all of them are in in in primary care In certain hospitals we introduce a mixture of Chinese and Western medicine together, but still the main carer is the western doctor But since traditionally a lot of people believe in Chinese medicine. So we allow The practice of Chinese medicine in within those those elements is important for them to communicate and also cooperate Rather than a patient going to see a western doctor and then a Chinese medicine doctor without They know each other what to give what have been given the other Areas on on our international relationship is we have a very broad relationship We most of us particularly those doctors who train in Hong Kong have opportunity to train overseas So we we went to a lot of English speaking countries for example, US, Canada Australia, UK And and many of the other areas And they're widely travel and they also have set up certain communication and partnership particularly in research so I think We host A lot of international medical conferences in Hong Kong on a yearly basis on a regular basis as well Let's take a few more short questions and answers. Yes, please What is your view professor chow on the future of primary care and the role it should have in the Hong Kong system? primary care has not been developed as as actually as As good as the hospital care in Hong Kong in the past. I'll put it this way A lot of people would try to go to a specialist if they have something here They'll go go see a cardiologist if they see something here. They go to see a neurologist and the GP system is actually Quite unregulated for many years And this is the reason why in the last few years we put a lot of emphasis in Promoting primary care as well as in the private primary care providers And this is the also something that we think is important The three three things we are doing right now one is we are setting up a primary care registry We just started earlier this year So we are registering all the primary care providers Those who claim to be public care providers Okay, so we will give them the right information on the community disease trends and so on so they get much better informed And they will give them also certain standards of care, which we think is important for the community And secondly, I think we're developing certain models of care So we'll be setting up a community health center in Well to start one in the first one in tinshui way next year But we try to make this a multi-discipline center in different districts and thirdly is We also looking at certain primary care Surface models for different age groups So for example in children, what are the important preventive medicine we need to do and in in the elderly What shall we do and what are the chronic illnesses that we can care for at the primary care level? Now too many of the so-called specialist clinics are looking after primary care at the same time I think this happened in many many countries and many other Community Can we take one more question over there? I'm Gita Mthewari from Indian Institute of Technology jelly WHO recognizes road traffic injuries as a public health problem affecting most of the young people Does that come under your purview? Um, you mean road traffic accidents and trauma. Yes one of the We developed a framework for non-communicable diseases and actually I chair the committee myself a few things that we're looking at all for the years is Some first of all something we can prevent Right something we can prevent actually if you invest even Some resources into it you can actually cut down a lot of the downstream burden of the government and prevention of injury in terms of various type of Traffic accident industrial accidents is very important. For example the the seat belts And also the the the helmet law in in in motorcycle was introduced in the 80s and the 90s This would have tremendous cut down a lot of those Traffic accidents in fact the number of mortality in traffic accidents in hong kong is actually quite low Because that might be related to our our driving speed as well But this is something that I think We are concerned with and we also working with the 18 districts in hong kong to build a healthy city scheme so that The district councillors who have a very wide network to within the community they'll be able to Through their stakeholders their supporters their voters To to actually communicate and advise people on some of the risk behavior So I think this is something that I think is very important We have the seven customers of hospitals all to get the Trail hospital with the accident emergency department So they can look after injury and the very timely basis 24 hours and they have all the specialties it requires so This would cut down the mortality of a lot of the injured patients You have to find a question. Yes. Just can I take on A little bit forward pristine those comments, which is we have done some Mapping which is pages 38 and 39 of the newspaper. We don't need to look at it now We can look at it with car which basically identifies Hot spots of areas which you would have in any city, but in this case in hong kong of high child mortality or high premature mortality Does that spatial dimension actually affect your policies in terms of care it does I think I'd like to thank you for Having such a detailed analysis of the different districts of of health says in hong kong Of course, we need to know the pathology and how it actually come about but at the same time this will help us to modify some of our Policies particularly where should we set up a clinic where should we set up a hospital? Where should we Focus on health education and what are the main risks in in certain communities and so on So this will be very helpful. So I'd like to thank you for for doing that So you will benefit in hong kong from the research at ellison. Thank you very much. Thank you very much