We will look at federation of keystone v3 api and what we have done in the last few months since I last gave a talk on federation. Federation just for those people new the topic it means that the service provider does not authenticate the user. The service provider has a trust relationship with an identity provider and the user authenticates the identity provider, the identity provider provides an assertion ...cynnaeth y bwrdd y cyfnod yn cyfrifio cyrraffi... ...onno, oedd y cyfnod y bydd y bwrdd y bydd y bydd iawn y cyfrifio... ...onno, wedi cael eu gwneud... ...y'r cyfrifio ar y cyfrifio. Felly mae'r ffordd. Mae ffordd yn lawer o'r ffordd o'r cyfrifio'n bobl... ...y'r ffordd o'i gwaith, maen nhw. Mae'r ffordd o'r bwrdd y bwrdd y bydd yn cael eu cerddol... ...y'r ffordd o'r bwrdd y bydd yn cyfrifio'n cyfrifio... They trust Keystone Right? And so the user goes to Keystone He authenticates Keystone gives the user a token Ann the user gives the token To SWIF, Glance, or whatever And because they trust Keystone They trust the user being authenticated correctly So all we're doing really Is extending the model So that now, Keystone Doesn't authenticate the user Your organisation does My organisation does So I go to the University of Kent and I authenticate there with my existing credentials. There's a trust relationship set up between Keystone and the University of Kent's identity provider and that provides an assertion to Keystone that I've been authenticated correctly. So it's a very simple model. It works very nicely.  You've been registered into your organisation systems when you start, when you get promoted, your attributes are altered in the letter, that directory or whatever and when you leave they remove your entry. So we're going to rely on these external identity providers to authenticate and manage the users for our cloud service. No religion please. Everybody, most people believe there's a god. The god got different names for the god, okay? You know, an enter your favourite name here. It can be whatever your god is. Similarly, we believe there is a federation protocol but we don't care what it's called. They're all doing the same thing. They're enabling that three-way authentication and assertion to work. So we built a system that is protocol independent. You can plug in your favourite federation protocol. If you're using SAML use SAML, if you're using a OAuth, if you're using some private protocol, use that. We don't care. We shouldn't care. Because what will happen in the next decade another federation protocol will come along. Sure as anything, before I'm dead, there will be another federation protocol. We want to be able to plug that in to OpenStat and change in anything else other than the protocol-specific bits. Okay? So we've just got one protocol-specific module that has three methods that are called on it. The first method is get the request. Get the request that the user is going to give to the IDP. The second method, which is optional because most protocols today do not need this. There's only one that we've come across so far that doesn't. That's the IT ABFAB work and that's got this negotiation bit in the middle. And then the second one, which everyone implements, is validate the response where the user gives the response to Keystone and Keystone calls the protocol-dependent module. It says, here's this blob that I've got from some remote party. Please check it out for me. Okay? And then all of these protocol-dependent modules will give the same output. So the protocol-independent code that we've written will get the same output regardless of the protocol that's been used. And what is that output? It's essentially three parameters or three sets of parameters. First of all, some ID for the user. An ID that's been generated by the IDP as a unique handle on the user. Next, a set of identity attributes. You work for Organization X. Your role in Organization X is manager. You've got qualifications or whatever, your age. Whatever they want to assert, they assert those as identity attributes along with the name of the IDP that asserted them. And in fact, we've actually built attribute aggregation into the system because we support set of sets. But that is a feature that people are not yet discussing here. It's more sort of a research feature. Finally, the validity time of the assertion. Because usually you find in all these identity federated management protocols the assertion that comes has a time limit on it because they don't revoke it. So they don't want to build revocation in so they will give you an assertion that says this is good for one hour, two hours, 24 hours of weather. Actually there's an exception that is PKI. If you're using X5 and 9 PKI for authentication then you usually got a long lived credential which is valid for probably a year or something and then you have to have revocation. But in that way the protocol independent model would have to deal with that and it would have to tell you'd have to configure it to say well let's have the let's just leave it for basically the period between the CRLs. You know if you're publishing CRLs every 24 hours you may as well say this assertion is good for 24 hours till the next CRL comes because you will have checked the CRL when the user came in. So those are the three outputs. Now how do we configure in trust in the IDPs? Because we said trust is an essential component in federation. Keystone has to trust the IDPs because it's getting assertions about the users from them. So we do this by configuring into the service catalogue not only the names of the local services like Swift, Nova, et cetera, but also the IDPs that are trusted. So we put that into the service catalogue. If you're in the service catalogue you're trusted the type of the IDPs in there so that our code knows which protocol dependent module to call because the type will say if it's a SAML, I'll call the SAML module, if it's an OAuth version 1, I'll call the OAuth version 1 model, et cetera. So the type is there. And then any protocol specific metadata that's needed by the protocol specific module to actually process the response. In the SAML case we need an X59 certificate because the SAML message is signed and we need to check the signature and make sure that the assertion came from the IDP and was signed by the IDPs. So the metadata in our case for SAML has an X59 certificate there. So that's how you're configuring trust in the IDPs. So if the IDPs are not in the service catalogue it cannot be used by the user and the user can't log in with it. So that's how you've got your trust built into the system. From a user perspective we have to have modified client software because the client software has to know how to deal with federation. We've modified Swift and a couple of other ones and we've put a minus F on the command line so when you type the command line in type minus F you're telling the software I want to do federated logging and that causes a new header to be put into the message that is sent from the client to the API and we've defined the message type as X authentication type federated. So we've got a new header in the protocol which goes through to Keystone and then what we've done we've inserted a new module into the Keystone pipeline and that module when it sees the federated X authentication header it says that message is for me and it grabs the message out of the pipeline it does the processing. When it's finished the processing it then passes it back. In fact usually it passes a response back to the user. So that's how it works with this one module put into the pipeline. So the gory details this is the header that is on all the federated messages so that the module in the pipeline knows to grab it and process it. If there's nothing in the message no body but just the header then it says ah I know this is a new session I need to go to the service catalogue pick out the IDPs and send them back to the user to the client and then the client in its own way will work out show them to the user and get the user to pick where you're from and which IDP do you want to use. If you get the header and the body contains a JSON array containing an IDP request element and an IDP in there it means the user has chosen an IDP and this is where he's going to go to do his authentication. So in this case it calls the protocol specific module it says get me an IDP request in this protocol language and it sends that back to the client software. If the header comes in and it's got the IDP negotiation element then it calls the protocol specific module it says this is negotiation it gets the next version of the message and it sends that back to the client so the client can continue negotiating with the IDP and finally if the body contains the IDP response then it says aha I know I've got the response now I'll call the protocol specific module to validate the response and actually get the identity of the user back. So what happens next? What happens next is the magic if you like of federation and there are two bits of magic that are in there. First of all auto provisioning there are no users in the Keystone database when a user logs in via the IDP a temporary entry is created in Keystone with a validity time that the protocol dependent module told us that the assertion was valid for we put the temporary entry into the database it's there and then when the validity time expires it's removed so there's no provisioning to be done on entries by the Keystone administrator because every time you log in the temporary entry is created it then times out and it's exactly the same temporary entry that we created the same parameters providing the user's not changed if the user's changed and he's been promoted then obviously there'll be some different attributes in his entry so that's the first bit of magic is the auto provisioning the second bit of magic is attribute mapping so the user exists at the identity provider and has a set of attributes that are asserted by the identity provider such as you work for organisation X you've got a role of manager you're working on project Y or whatever they want to assert about you and the attribute mapping converts that into the identity that's recognised by Keystone in terms of roles projects and domains so what comes out now is something that all the Keystone all the open stack services can work with because they say I know who this user is he's got this role on this project in this domain and then it can authorise the user and every time the user logs in he'll get back the same open stack identity and then he'll get the same access rights that he had last time he logged in so those are the two bits of magic so some of the key features then it's a modular design most of the functionality in a protocol independent way so that you can plug in your different protocol talking modules whatever your religion is whatever you like you plug that one in and it'll all work and we've already validated that which I'll say in a minute so what are the protocol independent bits and there's the enhanced service catalogue that allows you to store the IDPs with the metadata in there and we retrieve that and use it there's an attribute issue in policy which says which IDPs are trusted to issue which identity attributes that allows that allows you to control the IDPs and what they're going to give to Keystone and if an IDP asserts an attribute it's not allowed to assert it'll be thrown away so for example you work for organisation X and that IDP says you work for organisation Y well when the attribute is given to our code it'll look at the policy and say okay you've come from IDP X but it says you've got attribute which is organisation that's not allowed and it will remove it okay so that policy allows you to control which attribute you're prepared to have from which IDPs the attribute map which talked about which does the conversion and then the bit I'm going to talk about in the final bit of the talk is delegating permissions we need to know more about that because this is a scaling issue it's not an issue when you start off with a small federation you don't need to delegate permissions to IDP administrators but when the federation gets big you actually need something like this okay and then there's one plug in module with three methods and obviously clients have to be tailored to support federation so how do you go around how do you go about initialising Keystone well Keystone admin the first thing he does he goes to the service catalogue and he adds the list of IDPs that he's going to trust he adds the type, the protocol they speak and he adds the metadata that is needed by the protocol specific module and that's set up the trust relationship he then adds the list of identity attributes that may be asserted by the particular IDP so he's actually creating the policy well sorry, he actually creates just a set of attributes and then he creates the policy from the attributes because you have to insert the attributes first before you can create the policy so an example of the policy might be the University of Kent is trusted to assert the edu person affiliation the edu person organisation distinguished name and you can put values in it as well if you want and then he creates the attribute mapping policy which says which values from which IDP will create which open stack attribute so there's an example here if a user comes in and he said edu person staff these are very strange looking attributes to some people here but they are actually the real attributes that are used in the academic federations around the world today so this edu person affiliation is actually what real live federations are actually sending around today so edu person affiliation staff edu person university of Kent country equals GB we will map that into project Kent role staff and the next one is if it comes in with affiliation of student we will map it into project Kent and role students so now you know which of the services they will be able to have access to so federated login then the user contacts keystone sends the header and nothing in the body and keystone traps the request looks at the service catalogue picks out the list of IDPs returns them to the client now the client in whatever way it wants this is a client specific manner it will have some picking list some filtering it might use the NASCAR solution where you have a lot of logos for different things and it clicks a logo whatever you want that is up to you when you build your client how you actually get that choice across to the user in our simple command line implementation we just list them with numbers and the user just picks number one number two and number three or number four whatever and then that will be sent back to keystone telling him which one is chosen so after that the user as I said he chooses chooses it sends a request to the IDP when it came back from keystone and we support two modes of interaction initially we supported under the direct mode of interaction where the user client was talking directly to the IDP because that's how SAML works that's how OAuth works however we started to work on a new protocol which is the IT ADFAB protocol that protocol the client actually talks to keystone and then the protocol specific module in keystone talks to the IDP so we now can support direct communication from the client to the IDP or indirect communication from the client to the IDP via keystone so there are two different modes that are supported to cater for the full remit of protocols that you get from federation finally after the user is authenticated and the client's got the response back saying you've been authenticated and you've got these attributes that is sent into keystone with the body of the IDP response user authorization remember user authorization it's only half of authorization it's only the user to attribute assignment the authorization of the privileges to the attributes the roles, the projects it's done by Swift, it's done by Glance etc they are the ones that are authorizing the user based on their attributes all keystone does is assign attributes to users so it's only half of the the authorization that's actually done so if in controller calls a specific module to say validate this response protocol specific module validates the response it's got from the IDP and it returns keystone or to our code this unique ID for the user the set of identity attributes and this expiry time, this validity time for how long the temporary entry's got to be created for and then the FIM controller deletes any temporary entries that are hanging around from last time it was called that gets rid of those and then it creates one for this user if the user has logged in twice within his validity time then what we do is we update the enter we just update the validity time or in the future we don't bother deleting it and restarting it we just update it and that means that any tokens he's got are valid this means a user could have two sessions he could actually have two simultaneous sessions with different open stack VMs at once because the same entry would work for both and then finally the FIM controller calls the issue in policy to check that the attributes that will return from the protocol specific module are valid if they're not valid it'll throw them away but if they pass the policy check he says okay they are valid all I need to do now is map them into the keystone roles so it then maps them into the roles and projects and puts those into the temporary entry so now the entry has all the authorization privileges or permissions anyway in terms of roles that it needs and then it returns an unscoked token to the client and that's it the federation's finished now the user client has got an unscoked token and it continues as it does today so yeah an unscoked token is a token that hasn't been scoped for a service so keystone initially will if you don't say which service or project you want it will return you an unscoped token then you choose your project and then you get a scoped token that's the standard design of keystone at the moment okay so in terms of validation we've implemented this with two different protocols at the moment we've done it with SAML v2 and we've done it with keystone to keystone so you can now set up two keystones and you can use one keystone as an IDP to authenticate users to a second keystone so you can actually have a whole bunch of different keystones and allow users to access them all by logging into one central one and we're currently implementing the IT Abfab protocol suite which is based on Radius, Eep and SAML now we've talked about delegating permissions what we've done so that is fine for a small federation but look at this in the UK there's now 730 IDPs if you want your keystone administrator to administer 730 IDPs you may say I complain I object can't we sort of delegate permissions out so what we've added is a delegation permission thing which allows the keystone administrator to delegate to each of the IDP administrators the ability to manage his IDP in terms of the attributes it will issue so what the keystone administrator does he says you are responsible for your IDP but you're only going to get access to this domain this project and this role maybe a domain in two projects that's all you've got access to I don't care which attributes your IDP issues it's not in my business you know you can do the mapping if you get it wrong your users won't get access if you get it right they'll get access to just what I've given you access to so in that way the keystone administrator keeps tight control of the overall permissions within OpenStack but he gives the freedom and the flexibility to the IDP administrators to manage the mappings because they know what their IDPs will issue and they know what which people they want from their organisation to be mapped into which roles and projects that are under their scope so that's what it is so the keystone administrator does the following first of all it creates a user entry for each IDP administrator using the standard existing API it creates a set of roles using again the standard existing API he says which administrator has which role which is again using the standard the standard keystone API and then the new API we've added is he gives permissions to the admin role and those permissions say you are entitled to map into the following OpenStack keystone known roles, projects and domains for the following IDPs so it's a many to many mapping you could have 50 IDPs and 10 administrators and they could administer 5 each you've got that freedom there to say how many, or you could have two administrators administrating one IDP because you've got the freedom and flexibility when you're putting the permissions in there so what does the IDP administrator do when he's got the delegated permissions he logs into keystone through the existing API using his username and password on the database which are the anti attributes that his system is going to issue he adds a new attribute issue in policy to say that only my IDP is going to issue these if they're actually private to his IDP he adds a mapping policy to say these attributes must be mapped into these project roles and domains and in that way he's controlling it and if any other IDP tries to issue his attributes he's thrown away because the attribute issue in policy won't allow them to do that so what are the implications of this federated infrastructure one implication is the user is authorized based on the IDP of certain attributes not based on anything in keystone essentially it's on what he gets from his IDP because they actually will drive the whole process so if the service wants the user to be authorized using ACLs and UUIDs then the IDP must provide some unique identifier on every time the user logs in and the assertion and the protocol specific module must say this is the ID that this user has and then we can actually make sure that when we create the temporary entry the temporary entry has the same UUID every time and then the ACLs will still work but that's not our problem that's the IDP's problem to make sure it can do that in fact all IDP's can do it but they're just going to make sure they do do it the identity attributes are mapped into keystone underneath so that means actually the new feature that's just been introduced in Grizzly called groups is not actually needed because it can be subsumed by the attribute mapping feature because the attribute mapping feature is a generalisation if you like of the groups feature because the groups feature is only specific for one attribute type which is groups whereas the attribute mapping is general for any attribute type when we were coding up we found we had to have specific code for roles, tenants and domains because they're in separate data structures rather than one table generic code which says this is a role attribute, this is a tenant so one of the implications and we've talked about this on the keystone list is it will be very nice if we could generalise the table roles and projects and domains and actually make them into one table and that would make the thing more efficient and it would certainly reduce the amount of coding because you don't have to write three lots of code one for each table to pick the information out of separate tables you can have one lot of code that picks out of one table so that's an implication so there is a public demo it is available you cannot use it from the open stack SID but port 5000 blocked and the demo is actually on the keystone standard port which is port 5000 so unfortunately we tried the demo, it doesn't work using the local area network here because they're blocking the port but if you go back to your hotel room you'll probably find it works because I can use it from my hotel room but there is a second network here so if you want to do a demo what this requires is that you have to install obviously a federated client so what we've put on our demo page is an updated SWIFT client so it's the standard SWIFT client in the open stack release but it's been enhanced to support federation so you'll have to install that on your computer and then when you call that client over you'll have to install that and when you call that client up you just put a minus F as a new command option in the command line parameter and then the federation will work and you can do the demo that we've got if we've got time I can actually I've got some screenshots of the demo but let's leave it for questions if there are no more questions I can actually show you screenshots of the demo so do we have any questions? What happens when I change my affiliation and also my affiliation is more administrative a lot of large identity providers they provide identity for lots of different clients and so to say well I'm going to change my roles and put attributes just for this guy who's using a cloud somewhere and maybe he uses 10 different clouds that use the same thing it would seem that pushing the roles and attributes up to the the identity provider will become problematic Okay so the first two questions there the first question is what happens if you change your organization right you change your organization your entry is removed from your organization's IDP so if you go and try and log in to Keystone and you say I'm going to use my organization you'll find you can't log in your organization won't log in so you're ruled out well no when you're on they don't because I had a sabbatical last year and I could still well if they take you out but the point is they've deep provisioned you they're saying while you're away you can't use any university resources well that's up to them well that's up to them the point is they're saying you've gone and we're removing your privileges and you're saying but I don't want my privileges removed well take it with your IDP administrator okay well that's that's not our problem is it I mean if you're not if you've left your organization for whatever reason you expect the organization to remove privileges from you if they didn't they'd have a security vulnerability because they'd have all these pensioners who could still come along and log into the system and start using the resources so and then the new organization you've gone to they'll clearly add an entry into their system for you if you've got a set of attributes and roles which is similar to your neighbor at the next desk then when you go to the cloud you would probably get exactly the same permissions as your neighbor on the next desk with exactly the same role as you because the mapping is but if you want to make the permissions individual in the mapping you put in the ID so you say on the person with this ID is going to get these keystone projects roles tenants and then you can make it on a per individual basis but that is up to the IDP administrator when they put in the mappings in to decide how they're going to deal with their user base right but you are wanting the keystone administrator to be responsible for those 3,000 and another 3,000 and another one someone's got to do it right right no no no no no it's not that no because we have in the UK we've got over a thousand organizations in the Federation there's a trust relationship between the service provider and the identity provider so keystone has had to put into it that it trusts the IDP similarly the IDP has to be configured to say it trusts keystone because if you go to an IDP and say hey just give me the identity attributes of this guy I don't know you you're not in my trust list so there has to be a relationship set up I only talked about the relationship at the keystone side but there's a similar relationship has to be set up at the IDP side but I didn't address that because IDPs will handle that in their own specific way you can always go back to fine well you don't have to all the stuff we've added it's completely backwards compatible you can completely ignore the whole lot and go on as now just putting your users into keystone that's fine so I don't know if I did answer all your questions I'm not sure we had a long discussion if you've got another one ask it in a minute my question is about the token so I assume that when you use a login and an IDP authenticated and issue a token back so there are two questions over here one is to track to a keystone database and the second question is how do you track the token where it is expired right ok so first of all the token is generated by the IDP in the protocol specific way so you have to look at the standard for the protocol you're supporting as to how is that token protected and different federation protocols protect them in different ways so it might be symmetrically encrypted it might have a Mac on it that is independent of the stuff we've done we say that is a protocol specific issue where does it go to it goes to the protocol specific module that's been plugged into keystone it gets this token because it talks to protocol it knows exactly what to do with it it knows how to validate it and it returns to our code I've validated this token and this is the information I've got from it the ID for the user and the validity time and then it's thrown away then the token's gone so how long is it valid for the validity time was returned to us so they picked the validity time from their token passed it to us and then we create the temporary entry for the same validity time does that answer your question sorry the token is not stored in the keystone database the token is processed by the protocol dependent module and the information from the token is returned to our code and the token is then thrown away but the information from the token causes a temporary entry to be created in keystone's database so it's not the token but it's the information from the token correct and we have not touched that bit of code at all so once we've created the temporary entry we've finished we then pass over to the existing code today say there's the user's entry give him an unscoped or scoped token and we've finished then now the fact that the entry we've created has a time stamp in it is completely ignored by existing keystone code today because they don't know it's there so the fact that the entry we've created is a transient entry is completely impervious to all the existing code today only our code looks at it and when it sees the time stamp has expired it removes the entry it does the validity time does pass we've made sure that you cannot have a keystone token of a longer validity time than the validity time of the entry so we do pass that down to the creation of the keystone token yeah so I'm wondering if there's any support for non ephemeral user data in keystone so that you can say external identity provider for authentication but in my case I've got a corporate LDAP that I can never ask them to add anything to so we want to have maybe attributes stored that are specific to our cloud instance right what the code does is if there's no validity time it creates an entry like now so if the protocol specific code decided that this wanted to be a persistent permanent user it would return a null validity time to our code and then the entry will be created without a validity time in it but the problem you've got then is when you're tied to them up and how do you clear them out I was thinking more like merging having some persistent data associated with the user but not the actual token what we do there is if there's an entry already in the database whether it's temporary or permanent when it comes in again the entry to match is current token so if you've been promoted or demoted since you last logged in your attributes will be changed in your entry so you'll get a demotion or promotion in keystone according to the mapping so we don't let you keep your old credentials in the new session that's the whole point that's just what I said his IDP picks up the attributes from their LDAP and sends them to our code and then they put a mapping rule in to say from those attributes that are in the where are they? I'm thinking more like if the attributes can be defined somewhere else and merged I did briefly say attribute aggregation and we've actually built that into the system because we allow attribute aggregation we allow different sets of attributes from different identity providers to be returned and we've got a whole infrastructure that supports attribute aggregation but there are no federations that I'm aware of today that are actively supporting attribute aggregation yeah yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely because because it's a protocol specific plug-in module all we do is we give the token to it and then it returns to us what it wants to return so it could actually make an LDAP call to somewhere or HTTP call whatever it wants to do totally independent of what we do because we just say that's up to you that's your religion you're going to do you know if you want if Sammel wants to pray five times a day then Sammel can do that yeah we don't care any other questions okay I think I think we do to finish anyway now at 10 past are we not okay last question yeah so what's the plan to have this code in our stream right okay at this morning's session this was discussed and it's not finalised but the suggestion is that this becomes an additional plug-in to the grizzly release so in the next six months this code will be an additional plug-in that you can choose to incorporate into your release or not so it won't be part of core but it will be there to be plugged in that's my understanding of what was if anybody else was there at the meeting this morning I've got someone nodding so so that's the plan so you will be able to use it within six months time but it won't be standard part of the code because we want people to get experience of it we want them to see how it works etc and if they're happy with it then it could in the next six months after that it could then become part of the code so that's my understanding of the plan okay well thank you very much Sam


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Mae'n oed yn ei ddweud o'r gyrdd, oed yn ei ddweud, oed yn ei ddweud, oed yn ei ddweud? anyone to validate or assure you of what you are about to experience. They might have tested you in the beginning by telling you a story of something that happened to them in their family when a past relationship. This was designed to detect if you were empathic or compassionate. It made it more likely that you would forgive them or overlook the red flags.  Your actions and words revealed to them a lot about what was going on in your mind. It helped them to identify your thought process and your emotions. They study everything that is significant to you. Your likes, interests, dislikes. Anything that has a potential influence over you that could be a threat to their control. By adopting your likes and interests, it makes them seem less threatening. It makes you more open to sharing personal information with them. They are also able to mould your likes and interests into whatever they want them to be. And then feed them back to you in the way that they want you to interpret them. They might twist and distort the meanings or interpretations of a certain song or movie to emotionally manipulate you. This is designed for them to gain power or control over you. They use these sneaky deceptive tactics to alter your thoughts, feelings, actions and behaviours. They study the places you go to, the people you talk to. They have to ensure that there is limited or no interference from any third parties. They have to ensure that they are your main influence. They have to ensure that they have the capacity to have an effect on your character, development and behaviour. As the relationship progresses, they realise that there are external sources affecting their influence over you. This is when they begin to manipulate you into believing that you're not good at your job, hobby or interest. In some cases, they might plot or scheme to get you fired from your job so that you spend more time around them. They might tell you that you're not good at your hobby or interest and you spend too much time doing it. I need to make more time for them. If you have close friends or family members, they are a threat to the narcissist's control over you. It is likely that the narcissist will manipulate them or turn them against you. In some cases, the narcissist will turn you against your friends or family members. They will talk about you to them behind your back. Or they might talk about them to you and make you believe that they have said or done something that might hurt you. The narcissist is jealous of the time you spend with your friends or relationship partners and wants to destroy this. They might spread rumours or make you believe that they don't like you or they don't care about you. This is all designed to isolate you and separate you from the real world so that all of your time and attention is focused on the narcissist. It allows them to have more influence and control over your mind. More influence and control over your thoughts, feelings, actions and behaviours. If you like someone or something, they will want to turn it against you. They will want to make you hate it. They will twist and distort the meaning or interpretation of it. Because they hate anything you give your time and attention to if it doesn't include them. They want all of your time and attention to be on them. It makes it easier for them to control you when there are limited or no external influences. The narcissist will want to know about your dreams and goals or your plans for the future. Once they know what you're working towards, they will find a way to sabotage it. They will find a way to distract you or find a way to affect your financial resources. So that you can no longer pursue your dreams and goals and then have more time and attention to give to them. As the relationship continues, they develop a full blown obsession with you. They have to know what you're thinking. They have to know how you feel. They have to know where you are going, what you are doing. Who you are going to be seeing or talking to. It gets to a point where they just want to lock you in a cage and throw away the key. Because the anticipation of always wondering what you're thinking or what you're going to be doing next is killing them inside.  They hate that you have your own separate feelings.  And when you disagree with or attempt to prevent their acts of control, it makes them want to control you even more. It becomes an endless fight like a tug of war where they're trying to pull you one way while you're trying to go in your own direction. They just want total control over your body, mind and soul. The narcissist studies you like a test subject because in their minds you are a part of them. They see you as an extension of them. Whatever you think, say or do has a direct effect on them because you're connected. They do not see you as a separate human being and this is why they have this obsessive need to control you. This is why they have this obsessive need to control your every thought, feeling, action and behaviour. This is why they have to isolate you. They don't want anyone or anything else to be influencing you other than them. They want to isolate you from anyone or anything that doesn't go along with their narrative, their meanings and interpretations. They want to dictate your thoughts, feelings and beliefs to you. They want to tell you what to think and what to feel. They want to tell you what to believe. They want to teach you how to interpret your interests in the twisted, distorted way that they interpret them. They might go along with it in the beginning. They will pretend as though you're both on the same page. They will act as though they are interested in your dreams and goals, hobbies and interests. But this is only so they can conduct their detailed investigation and an analysis of it. And then rewrite the meaning or interpretation to be whatever they want it to be. And then they can use it to emotionally manipulate and control you. Thank you for watching. I hope this video resonated with you. Please like, comment, share and subscribe. Click the bell icon to receive notifications for my future videos. We have a private Reddit community where survivors and frivers can share their experiences and knowledge. If you are interested in being a part of this community, you can sign up for our Patreon page. The link is in the video description. Check out the Nartsfaiva Moose Day store where you can purchase your own Nartsfaiva t-shirt or mug. We have a variety of designs and it is a great way to support the channel. 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Patriot Prime Reviews is a channel for adult collectors and may not be suitable for children under 13 years of age. Viewer discretion is advised. So today I finally received my replacement kingdom tracks. If you guys follow my channel, you'll remember that when I got my first tracks, I took him out of the box and he was missing a wheel. The wheel wasn't bouncing around in the package. It was just straight up missing. The figure only had three wheels. So I sent him back to Entertainment Earth and I just got my replacement in today. So let's go ahead and get this guy open and see if he does come 100% complete. He's still sealed. I haven't taken him out of the box yet. So let's do this together. There's a couple pieces of tape you have to cut here. And here we go. Moment of truth. Yeah, Hasbro QC has blown with these kingdom figures. Man, he's in there. There we go. And yes, he has four wheels, two up there on the shoulders and two on the legs. My original tracks was missing this one right here. So yes, I'm so glad to finally have a tracks. The figure itself is not good. He's loose. He doesn't transform well and he's floppy. But the robot mode looks great and is going to look awesome back there on my display, which brings me to this video. A couple of weeks ago, Larkin's Lair sent me an upgrade kit for tracks. He forgot that I sent mine off. I've been anxiously, anxiously awaiting getting these put on this figure. So now without further ado, let me finish getting tracks out of the packaging and let's check out this set from Larkin's Lair. And welcome to Patriot Prime Reviews. Now, once you get Larkin's upgrades out of the little plastic baggie they came in, you'll see you get four pieces. You get a rifle, a missile launcher and a left and right missile. And these are supposed to replace the weapons that Kingdom Tracks came with.  The Larkin set is more G1 accurate, bringing in a G1 tracks right here. You see that G1 has a much longer rifle and the bigger missiles with the launcher here on top. So kudos to Larkin for that G1 throwback. So let's move tracks here out of the way. And let's go ahead and we'll remove these missiles first. Now, of course, these could also be placed in Tracks hand or here on his wrist, however you want. But it just wasn't G1 accurate enough for me. And then let's take off his little pistol here. So first off, let's take a look at the Vastly. Don't lay down there. He's still loose. Take a look at the vastly improved rifle. And let me remove G1 Tracks' gun here so we can take a look. So here we have G1 Tracks' weapon and Larkin's new weapon. They're very similar and I believe they are the same size. So good job, Larkin. Now, which is which? Larkin does a really good job with these. These are 3D printed, but there's lots of detail and they're really, really smooth. I like how you have a couple options here with the pegs. There's a five millimeter peg there on the side and of course the one inside. So you can slide that right over Tracks fist. Let's see here. And yes, that looks a lot better already. Now we've got the launcher and the missiles. See if I can get him to stand up now. So once again, the G1 Tracks had the black launcher up there on the hood with the two missiles compared to Earthrise, or excuse me, Kingdom Tracks just had this. So here we've got the launcher. Let's go ahead and put this on Tracks. And this, let's see. I think it goes this way. You'll have the angle facing forward. Just pop that in the port. And like I said, we got a left and a right missile. I like the details on the missile. Let's get Tracks to stand up. I gotta quit touching him. So the missiles look really good. Got the fin there on top, the five millimeter peg. And that looks like it's blast effect compatible. Let's find out here in a second. We'll go ahead and tab these missiles in. Make sure the fin is on top. And there we go. That looks so much better in very, very G1. Actually, I think I've got the top backwards. Let me flip that around. And awesome. That is fantastic looking.  Very, very G1. Bring in G1 Tracks once again. I love it. Larkin, you did a great job with this set. Now, also, these upgrades can be used in Tracks Flight Mode. So let's go ahead and check that out real quick. Now, for Tracks' Flight Mode, you'll discover that Larkin's new set is a lot wider than the original, because the original could pop right in there between the tail fins with this one. That's not going to happen. So you are going to have to fold the tail fins down to get this to peg in so it'll look right. So there you go. You've got that option there. Or what I like, go ahead and get these off, is you can bring the tail fins back up, remove the missiles, and then just peg the missiles into the sides right there on the arms. Take the launcher section. Here's where you have that angle facing forward for more of an aerodynamic look. So now you've got that going on. Then, of course, you can also add the blaster right there on the side if you wish. Just move the arm down slightly and peg that in. Man, that is hard to hold onto. Peg that in right there on the side. So you've got that going on, but that may be a little too messy for your liking. You can also peg it up here on the top. So you've got that going on. Now, I mentioned earlier that these are blast effect compatible. So we've got our little blast effects right here that will peg into the rear of these missiles. And another blast effect right there on the large gun. So there you go. There is tracks flying through the air on the way to attack some Decepticon. Now, of course, you can mount these also in vehicle mode, but I think they look a lot better in flight mode. Larkin's Lair, once again, makes some fantastic upgrades to a mediocre figure. I absolutely love how tracks looks now. Of course, I'm an old school G1 guy, but I just think these weapons look so much better than the weapons that he came with that fortunately can still be utilized with the figure. Now, if you would like to get an upgrade set for your tracks figure, I'm going to put Larkin's Etsy link in the description of this video. Now, if you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, don't forget to subscribe, and don't forget to click that bell icon to get notified when I upload new reviews. Once again, this is Patriot Prime, signing out. Hooah!


Hi everyone, my name is Liz Jackson. Welcome to the Weekly Rekup. My name is Liz Jackson and... My name is Nene Nya, the Gracious Host. Nene Nya changaniku ya raka hibu. Ay! Mambo ni mingi. Mambo ni mingi. So, where? Wednesday? Elikwa Valentine's. Zulifa ni ni Valentine's? Nani guza paba ni. Kwa ni mzei? Mzei kwa ni Elikwa? Mzei pga ni. Mkeza plusi ni ambi asi ni tebeb.  Don't call me... Honey. Don't call me honey. Don't call me any... Kuleyanda je kwa ni? Ii seji. Mwaba mungu sana hii. Ii! Weh? Eh... Karaksa. Uchi kia. Haresi karakta, because you kwa na expectations is much. Manskwa na filke, you appreciate any part, but nili feel at some point. Imagine pia me nili feel you appreciate. Like usha ingia Instagram, mawa, studini, chocolate, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee. Mali fukeru lona kusulfanyam prins? Jetman. Okay. Hei? Muna juwa Valentinsi angu. Muna juwa Valentinsi angu. Nili amkata Kriban sa Sita Unusu, ni 630 kwa Kingereza. Onda wage. Wachem Chezu. Hei hei. Hei hei. Nika fuwa duve. Nika usha duve atakuche lingo kwa niki usha duve. Nika usha sitting room. Nika panguza curtains. Nini ni. Nika nika anguwa. Dena posa na ne. Nika napu. Nika lala deholi. Kila lulukwa na expectations? Uza te, ni unambai taku piti na delivery gama? Asa, watu lulukwa na ni pigeni. Hei? Kumbesi delivery bana. Ni unambai na ni kol na shika kumbeni. Ni rang namba. Ni sti na ni kutaka kapsapet. Ne, ne vapa veni rojandwi. Danje rotu na la nina. Nama keba umana. Nika umana. But when youa li enjoy, wali enjoy. And I am happy for them. But kuna utu wali celebrate piana marafiki zaos. You were at her. Marafiki wakuna wakua. Asa samini lukwa fi lukwa wakuna wakua. Kukumu na tiazaka tukamimi. Na hibu nia valentine zili kwa? Tujeru butana next year. Next year? Last year raki ni tutisema hibu. Nisi atena. Una kumka last year tu lukwa pabaia. Nisi asem sem. Anyway, when youa li enjoy, congrats to you guys. Ipo siku. Siku ita kam. I want to add the stories. Sa aniwa, sa aniwa nama kumufzuku inje. Kinana ni? Akinahupki the general. Wamedu? Ame release a new show. Aya. By the name Home of Lies. Inasema biliwa utu niwa hongo. Aniwa mite lukwa biliwa utu niwa hongo. Mudosi paleni liwa nana premia na mudosi niwa hongo. Ati kwa uchimana najiwa made mua willi wa feiku pitana. Uchimana kwa mulanga ya kei. Uchi psychologicali kwa najiwa geti hangu. Made mua fei wa pite wa willi. There is no way to feel when it's one apu akutana kwa nyu ba habu kwa. Abu niya mbe one lie you've been told? One. I've been lied to all my life. What do you mean? Iwa sika niyo. No, no, no, no. Agu ne nyata? I've been lied to all my life. Nuna jwangu na danga niyo? Ui wu jwa instinct. Zangu zina kwa anga. Pale, nuna jw mi nim spiritual. Mi niki kwa anga liya tuivi. Kwanza wuna sanpaku eyes. Batu nge wuna sanpaku eyes ni geti. Nini eyes. Mbupena fulipola. Sina nini? Sanpaku eyes. Gungu laba uti sanpaku eyes. Iwa shu seime tujwena. Sanpaku eyes ni watu enye hi. Ididia wia blaki kukatikati. So kuna white space apachini. Kama bili eyelish. Endo anga diye? Nia jwa masu. Taka mi nuia fukidi umeseme spiritual sanpaku eyes. Mi niki kwa jona kuna mi yaka ni kwa na machuia. Nini na wile blakai. Abu ni na tadae. Abu ni na tako zili. Nini na machuia. Ui wei mili mi kusoma. Tadae ko hi fa ni kazi. Ui wa achu. Kwa saba? Nini na fadanga hami na tadae. Kwa sababu? Kwanza po kwa mapenzi. Una fufa niwe cleansing. Santeni sana. Nase ma santi. I want to say thank you. Ui, mi ni guza paba e te. Una fufa niwe cleansing. Nia tia wu si chafu. Mi si chi watu hape? Si chafu, ni mututua li puliza. So it needs some cleansing. Nia zeku panka panka watu niwone e apa. Nia muna hi, nia muna hi. Nia hi o kazi wei wuna jwa mi na elewa. E. It needs some cleansing. Kwa niwa koni safi? Nia tangu ni safi. Nia tia na muna valendens wu kwa londi. I? I was showing myself love by cleaning my house. What are you saying? What are you saying? What is this saying? And that was it. Okay. Ya. Why so much? Atya kwa ni kuza paba e wei. Nia ni zile ho mobilizu. Shaza kwa ni danga nia tia na apa iti selsu love. But here, sure, I hope kids ni me watch. I think it's interesting. I hope atawacha kuwa chilia episodes. Yeah, kwa consistent. Exactly. Good job. Good job. Wei mamu mkwa motopale kutini. So there is this guy who was living in the states of Kenyan. He allegedly murdered the wife, left the Buddhist wife at the airport, and he flew to Kenya na kaka matwa. Mutahiga poli station ni kinalani. Fugitive a kapotea. So Josie ame patikana kwa kazi ni ake. So kazi ni ake ali India Limsetu kwa ma polisi. Na watu anase ma o muna shitu ka, I will judge you heavily. Ni judge shitu lakini, that's not a loyal man, wei wu kazi ni ake. Apu sasa nini dikwa na elekia. Watu anase matibu, why would you betray your cousin, why would you call your cops on your cousin, and me, I would do the same. You know why? I'm a very loyal person.  Muna kubali, muna wu wu kubali kumhostu kijumu? A kukuja kumhost, ni ele umutu anaku gongia gongia unenda kuchunguli kia ununa ni wu wu. Like ali toke atu saneza usiku, apana awaku panga, ali sketu ame gongia wamilangu kufungua ni umuse. Umuse agamombia wa, buta sigara kido gubata li kwa na kakuna wasi wasi. Nani ana buta sigara? Wote wa wei. So si ni makuzotu ame zoeana. Whutu al dada uzi smoke? Uyu, uyu host. Akamombia umetokawapi nuna kukuna, maharaka haraka. So wa if ya uyu kuzondia li pigia, ma polisi akamombia uleja mamunata after ako apa. Which if I'm being honest, no this case is so personal to me because the lady who was murdered ali kwa ni bawetu, uko kwa mati. So like ni demtuna jua. Then people need to read the law. I think going through a court case is the most traumatizing thing you can ever go through. So avoid getting into trouble and avoid associating with people who will get into trouble. You know why? Kama uyu kuzo angem ficha. Hiding a fugitive is an offence that is punishable by law. Nani huyu ni mutumunia kisi aka uiko America. So imagine you fungue 15 years kwa sababuli, fungia, mutua li kwa natafuna na polisi. Is it worth it? Wata kwa simuini mtiaji. It's not worth it. Mi, mimi nita mtiaji.  Mi, I'll not protect you. Kipeterokiesu. Kipeterokiesu. Mimi kuwa na apana. So I agree, I agree. Ontu another story. E, salasia. Amedu. Salasia tiana akuna dinia 500k. Wapi tiana sasa. Sasa, aoku pena details wapi, but aoku in depth ya. 500k. E, dili se mae pesa hain pesa kapi wana e apukuki e pesa kofisi. Ako kwa gili ke gili kajinga ako kana sumbu e mihimi apa kaka kakana 2 suko pitandao. Kwa e kapa nama 2, e oni mi ambili, dili mi atadu, eni mi aene, eni mi atadu. Kujet suko kofisi. Deo e pesa. Na sumbu e rini. Uki trakata e kini kwa ongeze. Wata e kukusimbu aadru na mama wakidokido, kama hii. Moshi miwa mishima mtiungle. E, e. Ie pesa e, kijenu tiku e sasa pesa nju hii. Salasia tiana nikamata kiku lipa. So, salasia is supposed to be auctioned. Mp. Mp, Salasia. Ie, deni ali tiku e anini ama eja se mihikana. Uki yo na Salasia, buno neyu deni na sako e anini. Si, Abda, kunu nuasuti, kujifu rahisha, furaisha tu. Salasia na nga tu kujifu rahisha. E, slabdali kwa na jifu rahisha. So, ana auctioni ewa? E, alisa ma na auctioni ewa. Uku su asi clouds. Uku noi na pia salasia pia mi. Kwa li kwa tu ana run with no reason. E ni, mamboa Salasia pina kwa nga umusana. No, kwa trikiki dogo, niliwa na intervingi na iubina, alkona interview Piera. Piera kwa gliswa celebrity crushwa kaka sema? Salasia. Salasia. Olufu Salasia nina niya krespond. Mono wanga dimi kwa ni, Salasia fiku fein love. Ie, ni kama kuku ambio katu lipe kwa namboya. Uku. Vincentumboa ewa. So, ana iubomba 6aida iubini tolea pa saye. Iundoni me kutolea. Kuna watu, please, when you're looking for someone to date, look at who you're texting, tafadali. Kuna vile tu yani ingini wezi. Awa watu muni wachi ni pambare na hawa. Ingini tu wa zi wezi yani. Salasia muna jo lebda tepia pia rani Salasia. Alisa ma defense of entertaining. Most people, actually me included. Ie, mi salasia pa na. But me, kwa the traits I look for, when I, I'm not looking for a partner, but when I pray to God, I want a funny man. You can't take it to the bank. You can't take it to the bank. Jumi zi zi imagine wuka na mtu zi infani. So you see, according to Piera, Salasia is funny. That is why celebrity crush waka ni salasia. Alafu, Salasia kwa respond. Kwa salasia na? Salasia na kwa kujigwaji. Danale tama haa reyama. Alisa maa atia izimend kwa zalisha a celebrity. I hope that relationship goes nowhere. I never is paradise. Because I can already see the red flags. Ya, I'm being honest. You're not rooting for love? No, I'm not rooting for that mea kind of love. It's mea? Why? Because Piera ni mtu ni me watch tangu nikiwa mtu hi alafu na wale wena Salasia joka na kimiya bila sababuku. See, alas ni wana kipindi, wana pikatu kipindi aiki. Badu uta aiki? It will not prosper. Nini ni? See, miya I'm being honest. Mwa mwa bili waga ushuguli kia mafenzi akuna za kumali rengiri zi prosper. It should not prosper at all. Misina panguni apuku Salasia. Ya. Anyway, I don't wish them all the best because I don't support that relationship. Mwa mwa ilo machu ya kuna? Sanpaku eyes. Tuxo wa ni kuna sanpaku eyes. So he, mambu ni moto. Una jwa walu boss. Walu boss muga ni? Uzi skuzi walu boss ni wengi baku asaari boss. Uzi walu boss? Vibeskate out. So Vibeskate out. Has been in prison since 2020. I think I'm not sure 2020, but the offence was allegedly committed between 2011 and 2012. So this is what happened. Vibeskate out had a friend who walu kwa me melend gan. Gans bili.  So wakashanga waten nakuambia Vibeskate out nini. Wakaseema anyway, let them just gather courage when it wam mambu ye nye bendo kiza kuGMem potea, but we apologize to tataftanji aia, ku replace them. Iwa na kunda uko wali kwa wawi li. Kusimati jo, gansi za walu boss Walu boss. Zume potea, Iwi ta ika anda. So, one of the friend mwenya li kwa menda na uboi, ali kwa na niknim ya Lizard. Ali kwa na itwa Lizard. Vileza za amili ona vita kataftaka rumaka ingia. Aki toka, ana pata bejtea kia me lalakwa ground na kuna damu. So, bejtea kia ya ni na split seconda me kufa. So, I don't know how he got out of that place. So, now Lizard has never been found. It's been over 10 years. Aja wei pati kana na hajula li ndekana wapi, but kwa simuia vibes katel kuli pati kana meseji za kisema, we cut up that boy so bad he will never be found. And that's why he was found guilty of murder. Nadia wukuna juu story. Guilty of murder. So now he has been in prison for all this while and what happens is when a country is among a common old country if you feel that the supreme court or the high court in your country does not satisfy your case, you can go and appeal Maju. So now that's what they have been appealing. They appealed yesterday and then the judgment is going to be made in the next three months.  But na wuki anga liyo story wuko. The body, imagine the body has never been found until now. Na yu li kwa 2011. How many years? 13? Around 13-14 years. So that's why vibes katel na me kwa jela. For all those years. So I think fans are waiting to see in the next three months whether he's going to be released or not. What do you think about that story? Ah, so na juki oto wuko jela tana una furafura chiks liyo na hengi na na kwa mi na kwa mbea stodu una cheka. Siya li kwa me furafura wuku. Boro me sema tu na juki wa jela lasumu furafure lips. Ah, azi. I feel like it's not a good place where wuki wam gonjo niza thrive. Like niza, tampa na wae mentali. Namto towa, I think the son, wa totoa kehum visit and the wife wa nam visit. Yup, kuko evo. Bado, na I'm very into bakitu na. Let's justice be served. Be served ya. Lakin nipiya waw boss bado ni waw boss kama we still celebrate his music till now. Namu go and learn it for solo. So mi bado justice i kwa served. Shaka mael ni waw boss kama li kwa seha. Kama li kwa seha, no one is above the low. Not a waw boss is not above the low. Exactly. Hai, last story. Kama li zia, this one is a sad one. Hi. Kevin ankwa? Kevin keep 24 years. 24. But kuna wato anasema that's not the real age. Oju na jovile wana riada wana daga nyanga? Ah, plus sukimo angalia wato anasema akwa 24. Na wa if ya keali sama they've been together for eight years. Satu na wakifanya sabu ya inki. But people say that's something athletes do because ideally you're supposed to retire when you're 40. Ya, but boy, me he rests in peace. He, he accidenta ke siye lewi, but since he was hit ama, ulola details bizorezo accident. Nili wana iyo seen, kule kwa na mti mahali. So suji kama li tokakwa mti. But tu na joa sometimes is the accident. Like you never know. You can be driving then. Ya ni tiny things kan kili. Muto arushe chupa ama taya ya. Muto ii tokakwa ama brakes imal. Function like you never know. But nili si kama hea, shali sama it's gonna be investigated. Ya, jala shali sama he sees the need the death of your accident investigator. Also the dad said the three men who came, kule za details za kewi, a few days before the accident happened. So it could also not be a natural death. Niza kwa kitu me pangu. But kus, kus ni ni nishwal. Nika kwa accident. Kewi na metu diya tu. Ezi mwana ita kipu mwakama kuna kitu nikuwa natural. Hei unajon then ya, as much as I feel like it is only natural for human beings. If you were the last person seen with someone mwenya me kufa. Ataka ma ni accidentu nezoli zwa where your sku kumit ulimpeka. Kitu avu tia mamlu komna fanyanini. So I get where the dad is coming from I also get where Jalas is coming from. Like kuku wa too sure that it was natural. Probably so that they are able to like rule them out ya. But it was very sad. Diwaltu wa li kwa mewi ni ni title fulani ame. So it's very sad. It's very sad but also when I look at it in a spiritual way mi nasiama angakilaktu me pangu na mungu. Nika tia yu accident, iluku hi happen. Ezi yu kwen natural and natural it was bound to happen. Ezi nu wa pitania. Eh, from dust we came from and from dust we will return. Wee, emu wa jibu. So they want to fungi asho wewe. That's it, I hope you enjoyed. Kindly share this video like, comment, tell me what you your most interesting story will kwa gani and how you spend your valentine's pier. Till next Friday. Bye.


G'day mate. So our text for today is a poem by Lord Alfred Tennyson from 1830 called the Hesperides. He says, laugh not loudly, watch the treasure of the wisdom of the West, lest one from the East come and take it away. I'm reading a book by Edward Alexander, classical liberalism in the Jewish tradition. So chapter six titled Dr. Arnold, Matthew Arnold and the Jews. On April 5, 1830 in his maiden speech to the House of Commons, Thomas Macaulay spoke eloquently in favor of Robert Grant's bill for the removal of Jewish disabilities, alluding to but not naming Nathan Rothschild, who financed the Allied armies ranged against Napoleon. Macaulay noted that as things now stand, a Jew may be the richest man in England. The influence of a Jew may be of the first consequence in a war which shakes Europe to the center, and yet the Jews have no legal right to vote or to sit in Parliament. 300 years ago, they had no legal right to the teeth in their heads. So he's dredging up a story about King John extracting gold teeth from Jewish heads. Thomas Carlisle exclaimed, I did not mean that I want King John back again, but if you ask me which mode of treating these people to have been the nearest to the will of the Almighty, to build them palaces or to take the pincers for them, I declare for the pincers. He fancied himself in the role of Victorian King John with Baron Rothschild at his mercy. Now, sir, the state requires some of these millions you have heaped together with your financing work. You weren't very well. The speaker gave a twist with his wrist. Now, now will you. And another twist until the millions were yielded. So although Thomas Macaulay was a liberal, he did not speak for all liberals, some of whom stood much closer to Carlisle on the Jewish question. One of these was Thomas Arnold, the famous headmaster of rugby and the intellectual leader of the liberal or the broad church branch of the Church of England. So Thomas Arnold was not a big fan of the Jews. He very much opposed the bill to remove Jewish disabilities, because it's based on the low rabbinical notion of citizenship. So he's protesting against the French Revolution and the Jacobinites notion of citizenship, that a man acquires a right to citizenship by the accident of his being littered on the nation's soil or because he pays taxes. So he thought that there was a lot of use in the notion of citizenship, which is kind of a modern notion, I guess you believe much more in blood and soil. So Jacobitism was a 17th and 18th century movement that the support of the restoration of the house of Stuart the British throne. The revolution created the principle of a contract between monarch and people. If this contract was violated, the monarch could be removed. Jacobites argued that monarchs were appointed by God and could not be removed. So they argue that the post 1688 regime was illegitimate. So the Jacobites argued that monarchs could never be removed. So Thomas Arnold insisted he must petition against the Jew bill because it's based on this low rabbinical notion of citizenship. So he believed that essentially that the being English was not something that you could just look into just because you happened to be on English soil or you paid taxes.  With Christians unity was essential. With non- Christians unity was impossible or even where possible it was deplorable. Parliament should be thanked for having achieved the great liberal decideratum of doing away with the distinctions between Christian and Christian. But I pray that distinctions be kept up between Christian and non-Christians. Jews Thomas Arnold argued had no claim whatever to political rights because the Jews are strangers in England have no more claim to legislate for it than a lodger has to share with the landlord and the management of his house. England is the land of Englishmen not of Jews. My German friends agree with me. Wow. So he sounds quite all right there doesn't he? The only way Jews could claim English citizenship was by becoming Christians. So he sounds like Melchie and Brondelfle. They have no claim to become citizens but by conforming to our moral law which is the gospel. He wanted to deport Jews from England to a land where they might live by themselves independent. Said he would feel morally obligated to make a financial contribution to the costs of deportation. He feared that if Jews were to be accorded citizenship they might one day become magistrates or judges an appalling prospect for Thomas Arnold. So to Thomas Arnold only Englishmen can only be Christians. They cannot be members of another religion. University can aid the cause of general education only if it has a Christian character since Thomas Arnold's perspective. Students must be examined in the New Testament. Christianity is no mere branch of knowledge but it's very basis. When he tried to imagine examining a Jewish student in a sacred history of which he would not admit a single fact or tried to imagine having to abstain from calling our Lord by any other name than Jesus he rebelled. Who would be served by ripping out the core of education? Are we really for the sake of a few Jews who may like to have a degree in arts? To destroy our only chance of our being even either useful or respected as an institution of national education? It would be the first time that education in England was avowedly un-Christianized for the sake of accommodating Jews. He was the sole member of the London University Senate opposed to giving Jews degrees and exempting them from New Testament examinations. After that he resigned his position. So Edward Alexander is a traditional Jew. He wrote this book, Classical Liberalism and the Jewish Tradition. He writes, Arnold's stress on the Christian character of English education and citizenship was inseparable from a racial idea of English character. And so to the other Edward Alexander this is a way of showing how ludicrous the Thomas Arnold position was. So to English Jews, Thomas Arnold must have seemed a hasperidian dragon trying to preserve what Alfred Tennyson called in a poem of 1832, the treasure of the wisdom of the West from barbarous intruders, a bigot denying the full rights of academic citizenship. Arnold's exclusiveness rested on a grasp of the truth that Jews eager for emancipation and enlightenment tended to miss altogether. That when you study Western history and Western literature, you're studying not just revolutions and poems, you are entering the very mind of Christendom, the mind of Western Christianity. So Arnold knew far better than the Jews did that anyone who studied English literature and English history, even at a non-sectarian London University must submit to a whole world of assumptions that were alien and presumably offensive to him. The Jewish God is a fierce tribal deity who was supplanted in the progressive movement of the world by the gentle and universal Christian one. The Jews had rejected Jesus as more spiritual teaching as they were attached to the old law. Just couldn't see that its message of love and forgiveness had made it obsolete.  What Jews call Torah is an Old Testament that has to be edited, interpreted, complemented, fulfilled and superseded by the New Testament and that Jewish collective existence since the inception of Christianity was a prolonged illustration of the spiritual blindness derided in the Gospels. So even without the compulsory examination in New Testament that Arnold insisted on the education Jews would receive at London University exacted a price for national citizenship in the form of a distortion and narrowing of Jewish self-definition. So throughout the 19th century in Europe, particularly beginning in western Europe, Jews were increasingly integrated and made citizens with close to full rights of citizenship. But it was often at the price of getting the Jews to abandon their distinctive approach to life. Jews might have been better off as Jews had the exclusionist Arnold and not his more liberal and secular opponents won the struggle over university admissions. Nearly a century later Morris Joseph addressing Jewish students at Cambridge pointed to the snares that awaited Jewish undergraduates, the great English universities, is included not only what seemed to be a wider learning and culture than that of their own Jewish ancestors but even the physical surroundings. Gothic architecture was essentially Christian architecture even if the buildings were not formally chapels. The Jewish student at an elite English university is set in an intensely Christian atmosphere all the more potent because of the historic associations that go to the making of it and the simple services of the plain brick structure that does duty for a synagogue present a glaring contrast the impressive form and environment of the public worship of the university churches. So this is a speech from 1830 the risk that university life entail for Jews may be measured in part by the experience of those who Dr. Arnold did not consider dissenters from Christianity to whom churches were not alien. So Protestants who did not belong to the established English church during this time had a similar experience to Jews. They often became Anglicans to overcome their sense of being outsiders. So I grew up a seventh-day Adventist in Australia very much had the sense of being outside the established society outside the established Anglican church. Catholics also outside the established church would have faced similar dangers at the English universities but their church showed no interest in having the universities open up to their people. A writer in a Catholic journal in 1851 said thanks be to God the Protestantism of England has shut our Catholics from Oxford and with few exceptions indeed from Cambridge also. So Thomas Arnold's son was named Matthew. He had much friendlier relationships with Jews. He surmised that the English people were far more likely to be brought to a more philosophical conception of religion through Judaism than through Hellenism. Arnold's attitude toward the prospect of bringing Jews into the educational system while respecting the integrity of their religious culture stands in sharp contrast to that of his father Thomas Arnold. So Matthew Arnold praised the French system of education because it accepted without necessarily encouraging religious division. The spirit of sect Arnold observed was noxious but less noxious in the spirit of religious persecution. The French were the population 36 million recognized three and only three religious divisions for education Protestantism, Ramic Catholicism and Judaism. The English system despite its smaller population of 21 million recognized no less than seven religious divisions six Protestant one Catholic none Jewish. Okay let me go here to Jews in English department looking at Edward Alexander's work classical liberalism and the Jewish tradition here. Okay page 131 chapter 11 Ludwig Louison a Berlin born Jew had made himself into a southern Christian gentleman in Charleston had to leave Columbia University in 1903 without his doctorate because he was in the eyes of Columbia's English Fajori irredeemably Jewish. I remember my father talked about a Jew who converted to Seventh-day Adventism and came to study at Avondale College where my father was the chair of the religion department. My father told me that even though he converted to Christianity he still had all these Jewish mannerisms and nobody liked him. So even though Ludwig Louison who apparently became a southern Christian gentleman he was denied his doctorate from Columbia University because he was irredeemably Jewish. Like many a Jewish student of English literature after him the names of Irvin Aaron Price and Arnold Stein spring to mind Louison was told that he should not or could not proceed in his studies because the prejudice against hiring Jews in English departments was insuperable. So when do you think the first Jew was hired as a professor of English literature in America? What decade? It was the 1940s. So two decades later meaning 1923 reflecting on the appointment of a number of Jewish scholars in American colleges and universities he noted that in one discipline alone the old resistance remained firm. So Jews made their way into every academic department but one by the 1920s and that was English. A number of Jewish scholars in American colleges the ordermen got in because nativistic anti-Semitism was not as strong 25 years ago as it is today. Regarding the younger men they were appointed through personal friendship or prestige. But the prejudice against Jews has not relented in a single instance in regard to the teaching of English. Perhaps this was because the study of English unlike that of science or even philosophy was intimately bound up with the particularities of culture for precisely the study of the mind of Western Christianity. So the study of English literature is essentially the study of Christendom of Western Christendom. What's English literature? Bernard Berenson called the angry Saxons who ran the English departments were mindful of what Tennyson had written in the heresperities. The treasure of the wisdom of the West needed to be guarded well and warily lest one from the east come and take it away. In the 20th century the would-be invaders of the sacred preserve were barbarous Eastern European Jews. So Suzanne Klingenstein did a graduate work at Harvard produced a book, the first book, Jews in the American Academy 1900 to 1940. So it tells the story of the first Jewish professors in the American Academy. So why did one of them a professor of philosophy, Harry Wolfson, keep silent during Harvard's attempt to establish a Jewish quota in 1922 or its later rejection of refugee scholars from Nazi Germany? It was because of the traditional respect of the Talmudist for the institution that shelters his learning. Harvard had clearly succeeded Slobodka, Yeshiva, and Wolfson's reverence. So the Jews who succeeded in becoming professors in the American Academy probably prior to the 1970s they were overwhelmingly the most assimilated of Jews and the least observant of Jewish law. So in Jewish studies departments you almost never will find support for the state of Israel. So Jewish studies departments in American universities tend to be quite skeptical of Israel that very rarely tend to defend Israel. So the Jews gained access to the American Academy essentially by giving up their Jewishness, giving up their particularity, giving up observance and by dressing and acting and comporting themselves in the most assimilated fashions. First tenured English department professor was Lionel Trilling who got on at Columbia University in the 1940s and he aspired to conquer Morningside Heights that's an area of New York near Columbia University without paying the price of complete intellectual assimilation. But Lionel Trilling was a highly assimilated Jew. So the author here Edward Alexander was in Lionel Trilling's Victorian seminar and he was taken aback to find out that Trilling never actually visited England until 1957. Then Klingenstein's second book deals only with literary scholars. Trilling said after World War II that his fellow intellectuals would take a break from being anti-American for a few years and then go right back to it. So she interviews Harry Levin, her first Jewish scholar and he threatened to withhold his permission to quote from his interviews with and letters to her if she insisted on forcing him into a theory of American ethnicity. So Harvard University particularly its English department had a long resistance to Jewish interlopers. This book discusses the higher anti-Semitism of George Santiana, Henry Adams and T.S. Eliot. So these early Jewish literary scholars are overwhelmingly waspy. They heavily assimilated or they were homosexual. So in one seminar Cynthia Ozick asked Lionel Trilling, we're talking about Kafka and Marx and she named some other famous Jewish intellectuals and she said they were all Jewish. Shouldn't we discuss if that had some effect on their work? Trilling got very angry with her and these early Jewish scholars, these early professors of English literature, literary analysts did not want to want to talk about the burden of Jewish ancestry. They said they cared as little about being Jewish as Marx did. One Jewish scholar of literature, Alan Gutman, reacted to what he deemed excessive Jewish fussing over the Holocaust by naming his children Hans and Erica. So this book is called Enlarging America and it shifts eventually from the Harvard culture of Jewish professors to the Columbia University culture of literary critics. For a novelist critic Cynthia Ozick, the magazine editor Norman Pot Horace, academic literary critic Stephen Marcus and feminist literary scholar Carolyn Heilbrunn. So Cynthia Ozick recalls Lionel Trilling's reaction to her asking in a seminar whether the fact that Freud and Marx and Einstein were Jewish signified something. Trilling's reaction was out of proportion. He blew up at me, was enraged, outraged. I had sullied, I had vulgarized his class. Trilling's growing unease about the wayward path taken by some of his students and disciples is vividly conveyed in the chapter on Norman Pot Horace. So they're a little too Jewishly particularistic for Lionel Trilling's liking. The book's concluding section is called The Rediscovery of Origins and uses Robert Orter at Ruth Weiss to exemplify literary scholars who had gotten doctorates in English in the 1960s but used the knowledge of Hebrew and Yiddish they had acquired as children or adolescents to move into Jewish studies in the 1970s and 1980s playing modern critical methods to the interpretation of Jewish texts. Jonathan Orter who's at UC Berkeley student of both Trilling and Levin added to their legacies an uvrah an interpretation of Hebrew literature that was unimaginable when Trilling and Levin attended college. Then Ruth Weiss was appointed to a chair in Yiddish at Harvard University in the 1980s. No, 1992. On some crucial matters the author Cleonstein is mysteriously reticent. Typically she moves deliberately from book to book by her subjects yet Ruth Weiss is if I am not for myself the liberal betrayal of the Jews 1992. One of the most important Jewish books of the past 50 years goes unmentioned. Neither do we hear the Sledgehammer assault on the book in 1992 by Jonathan Orter ludicrously depicted as an unpolymical person when his maturity would never use literary criticism to advise the people on what it should do. In fact, Jonathan in fact Robert Orter I'm sorry Robert Orter imputed Masada like paranoia to Weiss precisely as he had imputed it to go to my ear and other Israelis in a very literary commentary magazine article of July 1973 which urged greater flexibility and more readiness for diplomatic risk taking upon the Israelis who are still pondering Orters advice when the Arabs launched the Yom Kippur war in October by ignoring the ranker's dispute between Weiss and Robert Orter of whether the safety of the Jews or the imperatives of liberal liberalism should take precedence. So virtually every professor putatively Jewish professor in these books espoused the imperatives of liberalism over the safety of Jews except Ruth Weiss. The author misses a fine opportunity to bring her overall argument into focus and face the question of what good this enlargement of America has done to the Jews themselves. Given the success stories of Jewish integration into the English departments and the resorting enlargement of literary scholarship why is it that 90 percent of Jewish English professors cannot read their way around a dreidel and that an equal percentage of the professors of Jewish studies whose enterprise flourished in the wake of the Six Day War in 1967 would have soon come to the defense of Israel on campus as they would endorse the flat earth theory. The author notes that Jewish integration into the literary academy unlike that of any other group was accompanied by the almost complete loss of their cultural heritage and con-committant communal self-esteem. Okay so reading here Edward Alexander classical liberalism and the Jewish tradition he's not a big fan of the New Yorker okay the Deborah Lipstadt David Irving trial New Yorker version page 49 1961 the New Yorker sent the eminent political thinker Hannah Arendt to Jerusalem to cover the trial of Adolf Eichmann a recount and analysis of the trial first appeared in the February and March 1963 issues of that magazine then were published as a book with the contentious title Eichmann in Jerusalem report on the banality of evil the book aroused a terrific storm of controversy primarily because it alleged that the Jews had cooperated significantly in their own destruction wherever Jews lived they were recognized Jewish leaders whoops ovei the recognized Jewish leaders and this leadership Hannah Arendt maintained almost without exception cooperated in one way or another for one reason or another with the Nazis is now generally accepted that Hannah Arendt was woefully and woefully mistaken in this central assertion we all participate in our own destruction the church of entropy so the New Yorker at that time was infamous for not allowing letters to the editor challenging or refuting articles that are published how many New Yorker readers had ever before cared to read a word of the vast literature about Jewish resistance martyrdom and occasional survival during the Holocaust how many of these readers would ever know that the distinguished Jewish historian Jacob Robinson discovered a huge number of factual errors in Arendt's articles she later enumerated in a page by page refutation of her book entitled and the crooked shall be made straight Irving Howe was outraged that Hannah Arendt's articles which had brought the most serious charges against European Jews against their institutions against their leaders and against their character being distributed to a mass audience unequipped to judge them critically and had then been sealed shut against criticism in the New Yorker itself the New Yorker as for the whole court trial style it represents the publication of miss Arendt's articles disposed of the issue there's nothing more for it to say are allowed to be said in this columns except to defend miss Arendt she branded the Jewish leadership in Europe as cowardly incompetent and collaborationist she accused it of helping the Nazis destroy the Jews of Europe she alleged if the Jews had not cooperated with the Nazis many fewer than six million would have been killed responsible and scholarly opponents disputed a factual statements and her conclusions yet as far as the imperious New Yorker was concerned miss Arendt has the first the last the only word now Edward Alexander moves on publication by the New Yorker of April 16 2001 of Ian Baruma's account of Hitler admired David Irving's lawsuit in London against Deborah Lipstadt showed despite his publication of important work by Arendt Applefield despite having broken the story of Jed Jadawayne New York had not quite subdued this Holocaust problem of the 37 years earlier Baruma's story perversely titled blood libel begins with a nonsensical declaration that Irving is not so much an outright Holocaust denier as a Holocaust minimizer so in Deborah Lipstadt's book denying the Holocaust 1993 she claims that Irving had graduated in 1988 from Hitler worshiper to Holocaust denier it was that claim that Irving challenged unsuccessfully in court either there was a Holocaust a systematic German campaign to destroy European jury or there wasn't Irving either denied it took place or he didn't to say he minimized is to talk Jabalwaki so Baruma in the New Yorker informs his readers that David Irving is deemed a serious indeed a brilliant historian by serious admirers including such serious people as the military historian John Keegan and the journalist Christopher Hitchens Hitchens that omnipresent expert on all matters touching the Jews pronounced Irving a great historian of fascism Baruma's favorite guide to the whole business is yet another exemplar of serious reflection the brilliant DD Guttenplan from whom whose venomous book the Holocaust on trial Baruma borrows a sublimely condescending formulation that Lipstadt's concern was that Irving was bad for the Jews Guttenplan believes that David Irving was good for the Jews because he shares many perhaps most of Irving's deepest convictions that the Jews had conspired against him the Jews exploit the Holocaust the Zionists exploit the Holocaust that Lucy Davidowitz demonize the Nazis that the Anti-Defamation League is a spy organization well the ADL is in part a spy organization and I don't know is there a difference between exploiting something and simply using it as a basis certainly Israel and Zionism uses the Holocaust as a basis to make its case to the world so apparently Mark Kallett denied any pedo stuff by millennial woes and denied that the penis picture was of woes Guttenplan's description of Deborah Littstadt as a woman with a bad back in a New York manner more bet-midler than Bess Meyerson anti-Semitism is a long history in Europe but the Holocaust gave it a bad name even among people who thought it a perfectly respectable piece of bigotry prior to World War II so yeah I've noticed that people born after World War II much more reluctant to say negative things about Jews than people born say in the 1920s my father was born in 1929 Mark Kallett said it was up to the victim if she wanted to bring it to the police and Edward Alexander here does not approve of Peter Novik's polemic the Holocaust in American life Novik contended that their Holocaust memory is a Jewish scheme for grabbing the gold medal in the victimization Olympics and for self-aggrandizement to the expense of other victimized peoples so Edward Alexander here this is the golden era of Luke's dreams I don't care what anyone says thank you we few we lucky few we band of brothers that's what we are we few we lucky few we band of brothers here so Beroomi in the New Yorkers the suitable chronicler of the Irving Lipstadt trial for a country like England where disputes about beliefs and ideas are often reduced to distinctions of manners and traders who continue to wear their Cambridge ties in Moscow and order their suits from Seville Rowe less at much sympathy in intellectual circles so Bruma says he's he's tempted strongly tempted to share David Irving witnesses John Keegan's view of Irving as a class act marred by some crazy ideas because Irving is excellently dressed and has a posh accent Irving's historian adversary Richard Evans addressed the court remarks of Beroomi in the nasal monotone of the outer London suburbs and came across as the kind of state educated Britain who gets jumpy at the sound of an upper class voice so that's his critique of the very careful historian Richard Evans who absolutely took apart David Irving's scholarship this is low level Anthony Trollop but what can it possibly tell American readers about the ideological motives of the principles in the conflict and Edward Alexander here he complains about Beroomi's silence about the place of Israel and the writings of Holocaust deniers and their apologists and defenders if Beroomi is to believe left-wing radicals like Chris Fitzsens and Norm Chomsky come to the defense of right-wing Holocaust deniers mainly because of their devotion to free speech but Israel occupies a crucial place in the demonology of Hitchens and Chomsky just as it does in the world of the deniers Chomsky's defense of Robert Faris on connected to some of Chomsky's deepest political orientations in particular his unwavering animus toward the United States and Israel even though Chomsky does not directly endorse the claims of the French Holocaust deniers he wishes them well in their endeavors pre-evidently believes that to undermine belief in the Holocaust is to undermine a belief in the legitimacy of the state of Israel which many people suppose mistakenly to have come into existence because of western bad conscience over what was done to the Jews in World War II so Norm Chomsky's zeal on behalf of French Holocaust denier Denier Foresson is unlikely to cool till the French Republic passes a law requiring that Foresson's works be read in public schools and advertised and sold at the entrance to synagogues but of this seething cordon of Israel hatred New Yorkers readers are left blissfully ignorant by Baruma when Primo Levi published his now classic memoir of Auschwitz in 1947 he already foresaw the assault on Holocaust memory that pervades the work of the aggressive polemicists such as David Irving seems to address them directly in the poem that served as a preface to his work if this is a man meditate that this came about I commend these words to you carve them in your hearts at home in the street going to bed rising repeat them to your children or may your house fall apart may illness impede you may your children turn their faces from you okay so this this is inspired by that Alfred Lord Tennyson poem the Hesperides it's a poem that came out in 1832 it's all about protecting the treasure of the west from the barbarians from the east to in Greek mythology the Hesperides are the nymphs of evening and golden light of sunset who are the daughters of the evening or the nymphs of the west are also called the Atlantis from their reputed father the titan atlas the north wind fall in the new star night zedonian henna voyaging beyond the hori promontory of soloway past thy material in calm bays between the southern and the western horn had neither wobbling of the nightingale nor melody the libyan lotus flute blown seaward from the shore but from a slope that ran bloom bright into the atlantic blue beneath the highland leaning down a weight of cliffs and zoned below with cedar shade came voices like the voices in a dream continuous till he reached the other sea the golden apple the golden apple the hallowed fruit guard it well guard it warily singing airily standing above the charmed root round about all is mute as the snow field on the mountain peaks as the sand field at the mountain fort crocodiles in briny creeks sleep and stir not all is mute if you sing not if you make false measure we shall lose eternal pleasure worth eternal want of rest laugh not loudly watch the treasure of the wisdom of the west guys watch the treasure of the wisdom of the west in a corner wisdom whispers five and three that it not be preached abroad make an awful mystery the blossom unto three-fold music bloweth ever more it is born anew and the sap to three-fold music floweth from the root drawn in the dark up to the fruit creeping under the fragrant bark liquid gold honey sweet through and through keen eyed sisters singing airily looking warily every way guard the apple night and day lest one from the east come and take it away father hasper father hasper watch watch ever an eye looking under silver hair with a silver eye father twinkle not a steadfast sight kingdom's laps and climate change and races die honor comes with mystery hoarded wisdom brings delight number tell them over and number how many the mystic fruit tree hordes lest the red combed dragon slumber rolled together in purple fords look to him father lesty wink and the gordon apple be stolen away gordon apple represents the west the western tradition christened him for his ancient heart is drunk with overwatchings night and day round about hallowed fruit tree cord sing away sing aloud and ever more in the wind without stop lest his scaled eyelid drop for he is older than the world he awakened we awaken rapidly leveling eager eyes if he sleep we sleep dropping the eyelid over the eyes if the gordon apple be taken the world will be overwise five lengths a gordon chain a wee hasper the dragon and sisters three bound about the gordon tree father hasper father hasper watch watch night and day lest the old wound of the world be healed the glorian seal the gordon apple be stolen away in the ancient secret revealed look from west to east along father old himmler weakens caucuses is bored and strong wandering waters unto wandering waters call let them clash together firm and fall out of watching's out of wiles comes the bliss of secret smiles or things are not told to war half round the mantling night is drawn purple fringed with even and dawn hasper hateth phosphor and evening hateth mourn i was talking about here protecting the treasures of the west from the interloper from the east every flower and every fruit the redolent breath of this warm sea wind ripeneth arching the billow in his sleep but the land wind wandereth broken by the highland steep two streams upon the violet deep for the western sun and the western star and the low west wind breathing afar the end of day and beginning of night make the apple holy and bright holy and bright round and for bright and blessed mellowed in a land of rest watch warily day and night all good things are in the west till mid noon the cool east light is shut out by the round of the tall hillbrow when the foreface sunset yellowly stays on the flowering arch of the bow the luscious frutige clustered mellowly golden colonel golden cord sunset ripened above on the tree the world is wasted with fire and sword but the apple of gold hangs over the sea five lengths of golden chain a wee hasper the dragon and sister's three daughters three bound about or round about the gnarled ball of the charmed tree the golden apple the golden apple the hallowed fruit guard it well guard it warily watch it warily singing eerily standing above the charmed root so this was a poem that uh i think he did not publish in his his lifetime let's get a little bit more here on uh tenison hmm okay i got more more work today talk to you guys later