yo what's going on leafrination sleeper back again and welcome back to the channel today we have a different type of video for you it's not a monopoly hut it's not a pack opening we have a player review so ea dropped this new event called the european hockey club event um and they dropped a 91 overall austin matthews so i bought this card last night for 350 000 coins i needed to try him out i've had i've had every single special card matthews has had this year um his 89 was amazing so it was 91's only gonna be even better i do have workhorse activated with him which is huge um as you can see speeds up to 92 endurance to 93 balance to 93 acceleration to a 92 durability is up to an 89 passing to a 97 and puck control to a 98 and that shot is unreal 92 rich up power 94 accuracy 92 slap shot power 93 slap shot accuracy like i said his 89 just scored it was just it was easy for him to score goals i can only imagine how good this one is we are to the captaincy on him because a man deserves it so he's on the first line with alex nielander and mario lemieux i also picked up this yaka vor check that i will be trying for the first time but the main review today is on austin matthews um i'm very excited to try this card out anyways let's stop uh you know just chitchat and we're gonna hop into a rivals game we maybe play one game if not two i just want to see how this matthews does i think he's gonna be unreal for us um so like i said super excited to try this one out all right here it is austin matthews his 91 overall card it's his debut episode for us i'm excited to try him out in the reverse retros it's what we love to see all right mc david he's got matthews himself i wonder if he has a 91 overall gonna be interested to see and matthews touches the puck he's already so good he feels super fast for his build oh that lt felt super smooth with him holy not a bad first shift for matthews he has a speed that lt felt really really smooth when he did it i don't know if i just got a lucky animation there but so far that first shift for him felt real nice god no one really getting open for me shelly let's just rip that good shot here we go sagin take that i thought maybe we could have got a top right there big here from that vorecheck also using him this is his first game okay yeah um that's fun that's that's fun that's fun that's that's fun okay i guess that's just how this game goes sometimes i don't really know what to say to that oh did i hit the post i think he said didn't then i hit the post maybe i don't know all right let's get matthews back out here man i need i need something going here and i know that's the man to get it done here we go let's go austin yes burn drew dowdy bang oh first shot on goal austin matthews this card is too good oh my god he burned drew dowdy and then just snipped it top right first goal on the team with his first shot on goal we absolutely love to see it boys that is the card that is the play boys we love it we're in a bit of trouble we are in a bit of trouble just not good defense for me bring the matthews line back out we need a goal oh my that got through chris chelios wow wow wow wow this game i know it was my ai poor alice melander trying to get out of there but that shouldn't have got through my friend and i'm embarrassed it's all base cards let me look at this i'm surprised he'd even get a block on that man okay well that's just not what we want to see get that across no way his goalie kind of directed it out of the way for him oh my god i am a i'm a mess man i'm a mess i don't know i don't know i need a better goaltender i guess i want to look at his team if it's all base cards i am honestly embarrassed here for the most part okay he has a 91 matthews himself most of his team besides like lamue gretzky and matthews are base cards and laflert so i'm a little a little embarrassed right now he's going to draw gibson and net we need to do better here boys i i just can't play defense this year boys i can't i can't i can't for one his 91 matthews gets it all right first line on matthews my own matthews we need you to get a big one here okay his team leader pasta what i'm talking what am i talking about i'm not embarrassed he doesn't have all base cards let's go austin this card is so good get that across oh he just got bumped off that card is insanely fast there we go get that across austin matthews with the assist four two we're coming back matthews two points in his debut he's loving the team he is loving it lily rebound vorechuck oh man that puck wouldn't settle down for him so he can shoot it right in time play the pass across easy reads he's still got through even though i read that pass he's gonna do it again and it just gets through i cannot defense this year here you go get it across spanky carbonyl all right five three down by two there's still time get an awesome matthews out here he wants another point here you go sauce it over austin get it across oh austin creating another play because of his speed we like that bro i know he's going up i know he's just going cross crease every time 1.5 seconds 6 3 and now we're down by 3 once again unbelievable i mean looking at the stats it's somewhat close i don't feel like i should be down by 3 i like i said this the theme throughout this game is i cannot defense listen i'm playing pretty bad hockey right now but austin matthews this card has been amazing for what he's been doing so far goal and assist through two periods he's fast has a great shot everything i expected from this card is what i'm getting out of it right now this gibson's been insane oh man if that got through the math use bro that would have been a goal he's just going for that cross crease pass every time and it's worked for him so i don't blame him get that across bang shorthand a goal six four we got it man just defense now man just defense all i wanted was a board play there and again can't defense seven four down by three i think we lose this game now i don't know clear the cross bang again within two can just defense man just defense can i get a counter for how many times i said just defense this game my goodness now my controller batteries are low so this is good get that across matter oh that's a good deflection there dude this is what i mean like i get a poke off it just goes right back to him and he's gonna score because this game is so great i'm i have so much fun playing hockey ultimate team well not the exact game i wanted but matthews had a great debut um regardless of the outcome of this game here um i just want to take a quick look at his stats uh he was the best player on the team by far um he had a goal and an assist two points it was a plus one for us allowing eight goals he had three shots um super fast great shot um not much to complain about this card now to talk about the state of this game it's absolute garbage i know probably half of my goal maybe if not all of them except for the matthews goal where cross creases so i can't really talk but this guy just looked for the cross team but again that's the name of the game that's a state of the game unfortunately it's not the greatest but it is what it is looking at the stats i mean shots were close time and attack i had more but time and attack doesn't really mean much when you can't defend um in this game um so i don't know uh regardless of how this game plays right now that awesome matthews card is amazing um great shot again great speed um he doesn't turn like a truck for the build he is so um absolutely love it and i think a hundred percent he was worth every coin i've spent on him anyways guys that's going to be here for this episode if you guys did enjoy this player review of the 91 awesome matthews make sure you drop a like on it if you guys are new around here make sure you hit the subscribe button we're on the road to 4 000 subscribers um honestly that's going to be it i i got nothing much to say love the card hate the game that's just how it is anyways guys thank you guys very much for watching and i'll talk to you later


Our guest this week is none other than our own Dr. Joseph Salerno, the academic vice president here at the Mises Institute and a long-time professor of econ at Pace University in Manhattan. Joe recently was honored by several of his former students in a collection of essays dedicated to him entitled The Next Generation of Austrian Economics. So we thought it would be a good time to sit down with him and get his thoughts on the health and the vitality of the Austrian school, his role over the years in growing the field, his relationship with and memories of Murray Rothbard, some of the persistent factions in the Austrian movement and what the future might fold for a whole new generation of Austrian economists who are now in their late 20s and early 30s. So if you're interested in Austrian economics generally, the work of Joe Salerno or if you've ever thought about an academic career as an economist, this show is for you. Stay tuned. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back once again to Mises Weekends. I'm your host, Jeff Deist, sitting today as promised with none other than our own Dr. Joe Salerno. Joe, so first, congratulations on recently being honored with this volume of essays. I think some of our listeners will be familiar with certain of the contributors names like Philip Boggess, David Howden, Pair Bieland, Matt McCaffrey, Matt Michai is also included. So if we will, let's start with them. Compare for us the landscape for young academic economists today who consider themselves Austrian with what you face coming up as a PhD in the 70s and 80s. Are their prospects considerably better today? I would say that their prospects are greatly better than ours were. Right now, there are a number of universities and programs that accept Austrian thinking as part of the mainstream.  In mainstream economics, however, you still have the formal modeling that's highly mathematical. So we're not accepted in large research universities. However, having said that, Austrians are known for being good teachers. So there are also many opportunities in smaller liberal arts schools where formalistic modeling isn't a requirement of research for getting tenure. So you can write in journals that are open to other types of economic discourse and method in those schools and still receive tenure and still have a very fulfilling career as an economics teacher. But it sounds like you're saying in certain ways, being identified as an express proponent or at least a sympathizer of the Austrian school can still be a hindrance to some in terms of career opportunities or advancement. I wouldn't so much say that being an explicit Austrian is a hindrance because you shouldn't in any case wear your Austrianism on your sleeve. What I am saying is that Austrians don't tend to pursue the type of research that gets you tenure at mainstream large research universities. So you're not discounted for just being an Austrian today. In fact, it's not something that you should really put on your resume. I mean, you should be open about what research you're doing. And in many cases, Austrians are now and now, now more and more avoiding the term Austrian in their research, not that they don't see an Austrian theory of money. They talk about an aspect of money. I think that is part of our strategy. That is that we want to displace the mainstream. We don't want to set up a separate little school of economics. We're moving into the mainstream. We want to pervade it and we want to eventually supplant their methods with our methods. And of course, presumably the average economist who considers themselves Austrian friendly is probably not going to be as deep or spend their day involved as much in modeling or econometrics, right? It's just sort of a natural flow of what interests them. That's true. And then you have even mainstream economists who are beginning to really rebel against this overemphasis on formal modeling. And every paper has to have a little model and then it has to be tested. They're trying to break out of those constraints and that's all to the good. What do you say generally to young people who ask you today, should I get a PhD? Should I go into teaching? Should I try to have an academic career? Well, I first asked them what their goals are. And to those who say or who respond that, well, it's an academic career, my first piece of advice is go to the best school that you can get into. If you can handle the math, go to a mainstream school and then supplement that by staying very close to the Mises Institute and work and coming and visiting and going to the events at Mises and coming and taking advantage of our fellowships and also writing for our journals. But at the same time, to learn the mainstream uvra, the works that you're supposed to learn and to learn how to use their methods. Now, there are other people that cannot handle the math, the very high level math that is demanded nowadays. So in that case, you can go to other programs where they can get master's degrees here in the U.S. And there are opportunities overseas with Guido Holstman at the University of Ange, for example, and other places where you can go and get your PhD without too much mathematical immersion in math. Well, it's interesting, isn't it? Because I have had friends in master's programs thinking about a PhD in E. County and it has really become incredibly rigorous math. I mean, there are a lot of Asian students who come to the U.S. and it's really almost like getting a PhD in math. In fact, if you have a student that is seriously interested in going on for a PhD in economics at a mainstream school in the U.S., then I advise them to either major in math or take a second major in math or at least minor in math. But I don't think a minor is enough or even major in physics because of the mathematical techniques that are used in theoretical physics and then maybe have economics as a second major. But everything you learn in undergraduate economics, even in a mainstream program, is all thrown out in graduate school. You use different models, different levels of mathematical sophistication and so on. Well, let me ask you a question on behalf of all of us who aren't academics. You mentioned the role of teaching. How did this perverse system arise that seems to reward publishing in obscure journals over any actual passion for teaching students? I think it arose after World War II. There was a revolution in economics during World War II in which economists, actually in World War I, they began to work for government but then they enjoyed that experience in helping plan the war economy during World War I and they saw that there was a lot of income available to them in those jobs, a lot of prestige, and so they pushed more for government jobs and of course the great depression then opened up jobs for economists to come to Washington to fix the problem. And then World War II, the total war effort that was expended in World War II, demanded economists because they were good statisticians and because they were very familiar with quantitative analysis. And so it was here that economics programs began to change. After World War II, they became much more handmaidens of economics that would be used in government and that kept that brought the government grants flowing and so that's where the money was. In downplaying teaching and playing up the role of research, to the point where today, economists, most prominent economists rarely teach very much in the classroom, maybe one class a semester. And you get really graduate students teaching your sons and daughters for $100,000 a year that you spend on college. Of course, it's research and publishing that leads to tenure. But what about this question of tenure? On the one hand, a lot of free market advocates want to abolish it. But doesn't the concept at least have some merit, the idea of having independent, true-seeking scholars in society? To some extent, it has merit, especially where the schools are publicly owned and they can arbitrarily dismiss people. The profit motive doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how good a teacher you are, how much revenue you could generate that way. On the market, however, if that glorious day dawns when education is completely separated from the state, at that point, independent colleges and universities will decide if tenure is really something that's economically feasible. I don't think it would be. I think schools, even public schools, are moving away from it now. In fact, they are. They have positions for professors that exclusively teach, for example. They call them clinical professorships. And they're not tenure. They're just rolled over. You get contracts of two, three years, whatever it is. So it's a very costly system. It's a very inefficient system. You get a lot of dead wood in the system of people who don't do research or teach well and who are just there serving time. Right. Of course, look at the rather shabby treatment of giants like Mises and Murray by academia. Speaking of Murray, go back to the 1970s, if you would. Tell us a little bit about your relationship with Murray, how you came to meet him, how he influenced you on a personal and on a professional level. I started reading Murray in college and it was interesting because I was a junior in college and I was an economics major. I always knew I wanted to be an economics major from the time I read Adam Smith in high school and John Kenneth Goldbraith, who I couldn't understand. But so I went on. And by my junior year, I read an article, a very famous article, in the Sunday New York Times magazine. And the article was on the radical right, a new alternative or something like that. And Murray Rothbard's name was mentioned in there as an economist, as sort of the mentor of this movement. And I had never heard his name and having had taken three years of economics. In any case, I used to hang around with some conservative students that were associated with Young Americans for Freedom, the Buckleyite organization. And I mentioned Murray's name and the student pulled out a small little mini book called Economic Depression, Cause and Cure and handed it to me. And so I read it in about 45 minutes. It was a very small book. And everything became clear to me. I mean, having taken intermediate macroeconomics, principles of macroeconomics, I still didn't really know what the cause of recessions were, what was the real cause of inflation. Murray explained it in a small pamphlet. And from that point onward, I became an Austrian. In any case, when I graduated, I enrolled in a graduate program at Rutgers University, which, much to my benefit, was not a completely mainstream program. We had left-wing post-Cainsians. We had a Hugh Rockwoff, who was a student of Milton Friedman and was one of the first to write on free banking. We even had a student of Arthur Laffer, who was a supply sider. So it was a pretty diverse program. We even had a Marxist, who was Schumpeter's last graduate assistant. So they were very open to me and to what I had to say. So I was very comfortable in that program. In any case, I also became the vice president of the New Jersey Libertarian Party in my first year in graduate school.  And when he came to give the talk, at only $75, I might add, I was the vice president. So I was the one who was in charge of escorting him around. He asked me what I did. I told him I was a graduate student in economics. He immediately perked up and he began searching around for a pen, which of course he could never find. So I handed him a pen and he wrote out a certain number for me to call. And he said, he took my name and address and so on and my phone number. And that Monday, a group of people that had a reading group, Austrians, called me up. And that was Richard Fink and Walter Grinder, some of the old members of the old Libertarian movement back in the 70s. And I immediately joined the reading group. And I became friends with Murray over the years. We became very close friends. Well, what great fortune on your part. I've had that happen. I be willing to bet that the grad econ program at Rutgers today is far less diverse in terms of faculty. You're absolutely right. It's become almost completely mathematical. There are a few economic historians left there. In fact, they were the ones who mentored our up and coming student, Patrick Newman. So you rock off is still there. The guy was written on Free Bank, as I mentioned. But yeah, it's much less diverse today. It's a regular mainstream program. So as we move forward here, you attended the now infamous South Royalden Conference in 1974 gathering that in some ways symbolize the resurgence of the Austrian school. You've later said that you think the earlier publication of man economy and state really was part of that resurgence, even though that was about 10 years earlier. Looking back now, tell us what you think the conference meant for econ and for the broader Libertarian movement. Yeah, I want to address when the revival was. So yes, it was this great conference in June of 1974. There are about 30 attendees. The speakers were great. They were Ludwig Lachman, Israel Kersner, as well as as as Murray Rothbard. And the participants were mainly graduate students, like me, and the few young PhDs who already had jobs. So during during the flush of the excitement of that conference, we all thought, well, this is the beginning of the resurgence of Austrian economics. The first time we were all isolated before that no one knew one another. Few of us knew Murray. I literally that the summer before was sitting in a I had a job as a janitor at AT&T and I would get my work done very quickly. And I would read America's Great Depression sitting in a closet. I mean, so I was literally isolated. I was alone in the closet reading an Austrian book. So it was great to have all that camaraderie. So for many years, I like others thought that well, this was the beginning of the resurgence. And then, of course, that October of 74, Hayek got the Nobel Prize and that really cemented this renaissance of Austrian economics. But then, as I grew a little bit older, I looked back and I said, no, wait a minute. How did everyone get there?  Was it like like the the baseball movie? And in fact, it wasn't when I think back, and I've written on this, everyone who came to that conference had read Man economy and state. America's Great Depression was government done no money. They were to the to the man and woman because Karen Vaughn was there. They were Rothbardians. Israel Kursner's very influential book only came out in 1973. It is competition entrepreneurship. So that really didn't have it. I mean, it was very, very much talked about. But that wasn't the the that didn't consolidate the movement or bring the movement towards some sort of coalescence at this conference. It was really Rothbard's works. So I date the Austrian resurgence to the enormous productivity that Murray showed in the early 1960s. Now, at the conference, did you and the other attendees view Milton Friedman as a star at the time or just another attendee? No, we all, I mean, we all knew him. We all knew what a prominent economist he was. And, you know, we did see him as a store as a superstar in the economics profession, though most of us did not agree with him. But he did show up first at the conference and we were all crowded around him. And then Murray Rothbard later showed up and needless to say, there was some bad blood up between them because Murray had written just a few months before in his Libertarian forum that he wrote an article entitled Uncle Milty Rides Again in which he called Milton Friedman an inflationist for supporting idea of indexing incomes during a period of inflation. So basically giving into inflation as a fate of complete. So Milton Friedman was not very happy about that. So we were going over to Milton Friedman and he was telling us that Murray called him an inflationist and this is totally unjust. And Murray, when we go back to Murray and Murray said, why is he even here? It's an Austrian conference and he doesn't believe in Austrian economics. So there's a famous story at the dinner, Milton Friedman was asked to give a few remarks and he closes remarks by saying, there's no such thing as Austrian economics. There's only good economics or bad economics. So of course we all hissed and booed. So even though we thought he was a star in some sense, so you know, we didn't think much of his views. Maybe he was right though. Is Austrian economics the term properly understood just a loose term of convenience to describe a pretty broad range of thought or pardon the pun here, is there Austrian orthodoxy? Well, let's start with the first part of that question. I think that was a loose term that was adopted after the South Royalton Conference to designate this movement. I mean the Austrian school, Mises never used the word Austrian except in parentheses, in quotation marks, when he was talking about Bombavirk and Menger, his own teachers. He really believed that all the Austrian insights had been absorbed into what he called modern economics. That's not what the mainstream would call modern economics. And Murray also, even in as late as the 1960s, the main economy and state referred to the Austrian school really as a chapter in the history of economic thought. So it was only a term of convenience that was adopted. And unfortunately, when it was adopted, as you pointed, you asked me the question about orthodoxy, there was no orthodoxy. Even at South Royalton, you saw three different views of the market being given by Rothbard, Lachman and Kersner. So if you go back and read those essays with what we know today, the essays in the Ed Dolan book on the foundations of Austrian economics, you'll find very, very different views expressed by all three of them. So there was already a lack of complete agreement on some of the basics. So when did you first become aware of the term Austrian school or Austrian economics? I really only became aware of the term. I had heard it once as an undergraduate in the history of economics thought course in which they said, well, these three great guys who worked together to develop this idea of marginal utility, that really got my curiosity up because I remember the professor was saying that this is one of the few times intellectual history in which three independent thinkers worked together, in some sense, collaborated to develop this view of economic theory. So I was interested in that. And then when I read the article in the New York Times Weekend Magazine that they also referred to Murray Rothbard as an Austrian school or as someone who supported the Austrian tradition. So that's when I heard it. But it wasn't widely used until really after South Royalton. Well, I wonder if we overuse it or abuse it. Yeah, at this point, I think it's outlived its usefulness except for the fact that, you know, there is some inertia there. I mean, how people know us as Austrian economists. So we can't really get away from the term, but we can only be very careful in the way we use it. We can point out that there are different versions or strands of Austrian economics. And that's what my program, part of my research program, has been to disentangle those strands, to de-homogenize Mises and Hayek, Kursner, Rothbard and Lachman. Joe, thank you so much for a fascinating and I will say wide-ranging interview. Ladies and gentlemen, have a great weekend.


This is covering the spread part of the fan dual podcast network We are closing at week number six in the NFL by talking about some Monday night football between the Denver Broncos and the Los Angeles Chargers breaking down that game from a betting perspective may not be the most exciting game But we're gonna add on to the excitement by talking about NBA opening night with Tom Vecchio of number fire getting his read on bull Monday night football and Tuesday in the NBA This is covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim Sadas. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire calm joined here once again by Tom Vecchio Check him out on Twitter at DFS Underscore Tom Tom happy Monday to you happy NBA Chris or NBA Eve to you. How you doing? Good? I'm doing good. Yeah, NBA opening night Eve You know, it's exciting time NBA starting NHL is a week into the season football is in full swing I think tonight's game is it's okay from the grand scheme of things There's a lot of question marks for a lot of people, but I'm ready to go.  I think like I I Hate the Broncos at this point And my my distaste for teams stems from whenever I you know, I foolishly trust them So it's my fault. I I admit this is my fault that I hate the Broncos But like watching them in a prime time a game again makes me want to vomit I generally like the Chargers so I could you know, I was hoping my numbers show value in the Chargers They don't we'll talk about that and more so get set for the game for today But we'll add on some NBA thoughts with Tom to got two games tipping off tomorrow night to know But the NBA season 76ers at Celtics and the Lakers at Warriors will get Tom's read on both of those Later on my first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed you covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We had this show every weekday Monday through Friday right here in this exact same place my NFL week 7 first look coming up tomorrow We'll have college football Wednesday NFL Thursday and NFL player props on Friday to get all those shows as they go live Make sure you are subscribed to the number fire daily fantasy podcast You'd wherever you get your podcast and while you're there I feel like what you hear leave us a rating interview as well Twisted T and Fandle joined forces to bring you a one-of-a-kind contest series It gives you a chance to compete for your share of thousands of dollars in psych credit introducing twisted T's college football picks a Sports betting focused contest series that's entirely free to play the contest is simple Each college football game will be assigned money line spread and total markets With assigned points each market all you have to do is make six selections based on those three markets Points for each correct selection you made if at the end of the day your score ranks among the best in the contests You'll be eligible for your share of psych credit head to fandle calm Slash twisted T picks and make your picks and remember please drink Responsibly let's dig in here to Monday night football. We get the Broncos Broncos Broncos Combine those to the Broncos at the Chargers Bronners Broncos, I think Charcos is better. I want to go to Charcos. I'm gonna go to Charcos the Broncos at the Charcos I Before we talk about the actual betting markets this game time I want to get your overall read because my general read is annoyance for this game Specifically on the Denver side of things, but what's your read on Broncos at Chargers? Yeah, they're definitely annoyed The question is like what type of offense are we gonna see from the Broncos? There's a lot of questions about Russell Wilson This news comes out that he's got this, you know, got this injection in his shoulder or side Whatever it is, you know, and then there's a report saying that he's not going to be Limited in capacity. So like how much of that is actually true How much are we gonna see a difference between him after this injection? Did it actually work does it take time to work? Are we actually gonna see them airing the ball out to what are very talented receivers? So my overall view is depending on the actual health of Russell Wasn't that's gonna determine the entirety of this game because if the Chargers are fully healthy, which they are You know minus Keenan Allen, they should be moving the ball in offense They have plenty of weapons on offense and if the Broncos can't keep up with them This is gonna be a very slow game on their side of the ball Yeah, it definitely is and I think that that's probably the right way to view things here Just the question marks around Russell Wilson. I think it's kind of the key Question of this overall game and the answer I don't know what it what it does I think that when I look at the markets of this game, I feel like they're assuming that Russ is like Full go and you can define full go however you want because when I look at the four and a half point spread in this game I think that's pretty efficient. I've got the Chargers favor by 4.45 by my number So basically what that's telling me is that they are viewing this as being Typical Russ and not typical Ross is like 2020 Ross like early 2020 Ross But like what we've seen so far in 2022 not a downgraded version not an upgraded version and that to me says the traditional markets kind of a stay away from me A total is 45 and a half spread as I mentioned is four and a half So Tom to me, I'm it's a stay away in those markets. Do you have a different read on those on your end? No, I have the same reading so it's a total stay away, you know if I had You know ultimately if I had to choose I would choose the under and I would choose the Chargers and it comes down to the fact that If I had to make the choice, I would say that Russ isn't fully healthy Right and and the market is valuing as if he is fully healthy because what we're trying to find out from this game Is what is different between Russ from the first few weeks after this injection compared to what we see tonight? And if there's no change then this number I think is not big enough for the Chargers And the over-under would leave and I would lean towards the under on that total because Russ is not gonna be good And they're gonna score 10 points or 14 points and the Chargers are gonna score 28 and the under would hit You know, what is it deal 28 to 13 or 28 to 14 still has the under hitting So if I had to choose it would be the under and the Chargers But I'm not gonna choose because I don't find any value. You never have to choose That's the good thing with betting is you never have to bet anything you could just stay away And I think it sounds like we're on the same page with that let's talk about some player props here Kind of a bummer. I think is that no props up for the the Broncos backfield because Melvin Gordon is questionable It sounds like he's gonna play so we don't a lot of rushing props up yet Anything you're seeing on the board right now Tom that you like at Fandall First would be Justin Herbert over 35 and a half passing attempts. It's sitting at minus 108 As I said a couple weeks ago, this is one of the markets that I generally prefer we can highly project or highly accurately project passing attempts Game flow Herbert only had was at 34 last week The Chargers were down at a 50.1 percent pass play percentage last week Which is noticeably lower than what they were what they are averaging on season which is up at 61 percent Herbert is averaging 40 attempts per game this rib injury that he suffered really isn't seeming to limit him So I like the over they should be a more pass heavy team. This does Come very close to the line of how much are we gonna be seen from the Broncos because again if the Broncos are not keeping up in this game Then the Chargers probably won't be in a spot to pass the ball. They should be running So I'm cautiously optimistic for Herbert just because they should see some positive regression to the the rate that they are going for The season instead of down at 50.1 percent from last week So Herbert over is a spot that I would initially lean Yeah, I think that that makes a lot of sense because thinking back to last week they're facing the Browns who have been like outlierishly awful against the rush for the entire season and Typically the issue the Chargers have had is they can't run because their run game is not good They were able to run last week and they did here. I'm not sure they'll be able to the Broncos very good against the pass Obviously given their personnel, but they're also pretty good against the rush and above average team So teams are only downs throw against them 56 percent of the time And that's like a little bit above the league average So I would expect more of a pass heavy script kind of similar to what you were saying Which could lead to more Herbert pass attempts that number as you mentioned 35 and a half for Herbert minus 108 on the over there Looking at the receiving props. I've got nothing there either Like the only guy who's getting a legitimate workload in this Chargers offense right now is Mike Williams We've seen Gerald Everett and Josh Palmer split a lot of work The problem is Mike Williams gonna see probably his toughest matchups of the year Patrick Sartan junior or the second been playing really well this year 68 and a half the number on Williams I typically I'm gonna be high in Williams and there's no Kenyan Allen in this spot It's pretty tough me to get there and the backfield for the Broncos once the Echler Or the the Gordon props are up under the assumption that he plays It was more a split last week than I think people realized it was so I would be looking towards Some Gordon unders to see where they open up just based on potential game script potential injury there the fact that His role last week was not as good as I think perception was I look towards unders on Gordon But see where those numbers are once they're posted later on today. What about touchdown props Tom anything standing out to you there? So it would actually be Mike Williams. I know you said it. You're not super high on him, but Artic I'm not high in his yard. He has and that's the biggest freaking body of all time I will never talk anyone out of a Mike Williams such and that's you know, that's part of my reasoning where yes I understand that it's not the best matchup overall and I Generally lean towards yardage props ahead of reception props So if I would would going anywhere on Williams it'd be yardage not receptions because you know, he could theoretically have a 90 yard reception on one play Yeah, and hit the over and you can't have you know six catches on one catch Right, I would say it's stupid to say but it is true But Mike Williams with no keen in now and he comes in with a 19.4 red zone target here He still has a solid 20% target here He has back-to-back weeks of 11 targets or more which is actually good and he hasn't found the end zone Right. So at a certain point even though the match was tough We know that there's still a purpose still gonna be looking to him in the red zone and with no keen in Allen Who's listed as doubtful plus 130 I still think is a good option for Mike Williams because I'm expecting the charges to put up three four touchdowns in this game regardless of defense of matchup Which isn't the best we both agree on that. Yeah at a certain point They're still going to be looking to him in the red zone and like you said that big body can can bring down one touchdown And that's really all I'm looking for Yeah, and I'm talking about Williams like his his build and I want to make clear that that's not like saying Oh, he'll have a matchup Like height wise over certain because your tans also like a weirdly big dude Um, I don't want to overlook that but in the games without keen and Allen a 24 percent red zone market share or target share for Mike Williams. He's had multiple red zone targets in two out of those four games. I think that makes total sense He's plus 125 right now over a fandal sports book to score. I think that one is intriguing. I was looking for some other touchdown props for tonight to try to see if I could like talk myself into somewhat of a longer shot and I curled everyone. Uh, he's plus 250. He was plus 260 or plus 270 this morning So there has been some money on both him and josh palmer I'm Not as into that. I think that the one that I was like semi intrigued by was um, the non eckler Running backs for the chargers because the one area eckler's roles got a lot better Or the past couple of weeks from what it was specifically in the red zone But when they get to the goal line, that's where they are more willing to filter in other guys So looking back to last week, uh, josh, what kelly had three red zone chances versus four for awesome eckler Didn't get the same amount the week before but it seems like kelly They're kind of into what he's been doing recently. So 21 red zone share is not great. Um, but it's not nothing Specifically where those touches inside the red zone are coming. So kelly plus 370 I think if I had to make a touchdown bet, I would do that one I'm not going to make that bet. I want to make that clear But if you're looking for action, I think that's probably the route I would go Because they do seem very hesitant to use eckler Super close in towards the goal and I think that's the route I'd be turning to Yeah, because they were they were given into zander or vath and you know early in the season and he's Ten yeah, let's go He's stealing way these carries from inside the five were right at the goal line So I it definitely makes sense. You know what is ecklers at minus 130 right minus 135 for a touch. Yeah I wish I could bet the no on that. I want to bet the the counter on that one personally just based on the way he's been used But I can't that's so I agree with that. It's looking to the the non-eckler Running backs are an option zander or vath is plus 1400. That's not a spot that I like to personally go those those super super long shots Josh palmer is interesting 250. Everett is interesting at 250 The question is like where if we're not if you said you're interested in betting on unders on gordon Hypothetically, would you be interested in the latinius Murray at plus 300? Because if you the injury or re injury risk for melden gordon could be there So I think the guy more likely to benefit is still mike boon, but he's plus 160 right? That's why that's the issue that I have is I can't really take advantage like maybe I'm guessing what will happen is that they'll it'll be confirmed It's basically been confirmed Benjamin albright tweeted yesterday that gordon is going to play so like it's basically been confirmed till play But once he's confirmed in My guess is that the gordon props will stay the same because they're kind of pricing him as if he'll play And then they'll lengthen the boon props Maybe then you could buy into boon because his role last week was pretty good but I would need a pretty favorable number to get there even Because murray is there as he'll probably be active this week where he was not last week. So I think I'd be looking at uh gordon Probably rushing plus receiving under I think that's probably the place I'd be turning to first because it's kind of like an overall role thing They're not really siloed those two guys based on uh the situation. So I think I'd be looking at the rushing plus receiving personally and I do think as you said murray will be active They signed him last week off the the practice spot from the saints. It was right after he got back from london So it was like tuesday that they signed him. They played thursday, right? And so there's there was like no chance he was going to be active But the the re-injury risk for gordon is going to be there So I assume they'll have three running backs active, right and You know the tibius murray has been in the league for a while. He looks fine in that london game, honestly He looked okay So, you know getting him in some gold one work at plus 300 and as you said Boone's odds would change if we do get the north the news that gordon is officially active the same is probably for the tibius murray Yeah, so you know, I would uh, I would do what um You know one of the guests you've had on here before nick costos has he's always said before He's like if it's a mixed backfield and you know one player is probably gonna playing just take the player with the longest odds Yeah, this is something he's always big on that's something You know, I take from other people around the instrument Yeah, that's like a little sprinkle on this guy who has the longer odds because we don't know But they're gonna actually be doing at the goal line if all players are actually healthy or not So that's a that's a good little spot to look at at least where I'll I'll be looking for with tibius murray Can't go too bad listening to the prop king nick costos by any means Yeah, I think that if I were to pick one I'd go with the kelly plus 370. I think I like that more even than the um Than the Dealing with like latavius and stuff like that, especially because we're getting a discount on him compared to latavius somehow Um, I think that's where I'd be going there any other thoughts for you on this game before we talk about some NBA No, I think tonight's game is pretty straightforward if russ is healthy We could be actually in for a real game and if he's not it's going to be pretty lopsided Slopsided and pretty slow. I'm very excited to finally win a game when I'm not betting them. So, uh, here we go It's gonna happen. Okay. Let's talk about NBA open tonight as mentioned. We have two games coming up Tomorrow we got the 76ers at the Celtics Celtics favorite by three there We had the lakers at the warriors warriors favorite by six and a half in that one and tom I don't know NBA So I'm gonna be leaning on you a lot not just today But throughout the NBA seasons, especially once we get beyond the NFL season Because I got nothing man. Uh, talk me through this slate. What are you seeing for bets on this NBA opening night? So first and foremost, uh, you know looking to early season Spots that I believe are, uh, you know player props that are inefficient, you know game lines are super tight You know games that you would expect to hit the under You know, we could have the two teams in the bottom five of offensive paves two teams In possessions per game and then they just hit the over just because players get hot then Like over and over unders in the NBA are are super tough and player props I think are a little bit easier. So looking to the inefficiencies early in the season I think is a spot to take advantage and Good, I know thankfully enough we have one of those spots in the very first game of the season And that would be with the 76ers point guard Tyrese maxi The two props that I like for him would be over two and a half made threes Which is at plus 110 and over 18 and a half points staying at minus 128 If I had to choose one, I would choose the over two and a half threes So tyrus maxi is expected to be there starting point guard We know that the 76ers have james harden and joel and bead they're two star players, but Tyrus maxi is that rising star So one of the inefficiencies that i'm looking for or one of the connections correlations what I'd want to call it I'm trying to make would be that tyrus maxi has the second shortest odds sitting at plus 1200 for the most improved player So we're looking at a player that is widely viewed as this a player that's ready to take the next step And two and a half made threes is probably too low specifically when it has plus money So what we could see happen is a the line changes to three Three and a half made threes going forward or it's going to be two and a half, but it's going to be heavily juiced And we look at his points total, which is pretty modest last year If you average you know about 17 and a half points and sitting at 18 and a half So if the market all off season Was pointing to tyrus maxi being the second best option for the most improved player Two and a half made threes at plus money is probably wrong So if we can make these connections between season long Awards, which obviously there's a little bit of speculation here for some of these players But this number being too low Because the number indicates that he's going to be playing the same role that he was last year Which is not the case because of the market moves in other areas if that all makes sense It does yeah What was the other one you had besides the made threes for maxi over 18 and a half points It was at minus 128. Is it should still be right? So this like And he also plays and this is getting it's like a little bit of a different discussion But the 76ers obviously a championship hopeful team and maxi plays the role that I think is the most important Where on a championship team you have two star players, which are harding and mbe. We know they're awesome You have a rising star with maxi and then you have a group of role players and Teams if we look back who win championships kind of fit that mold if we look back to the raptors when they won They had kawaii and kyle larry who were stars. They had absolute star players They had the rising stars of pospa skyman and fred van gleet They had a bunch of role players the warriors are a little bit of different story The box had it with the tentacumpo chris middleton drew holiday They're all kind of three stars But we're looking for maxi to fill that role of what I look forward in championship team and two and a half at Plus money I think is a little bit too low with the plus money and We know that a daryl moray team is never afraid to uh jack some threes We're looking at all these things together and I think that if we're expecting him to be this good and take this big of a step We can't be getting plus money at two and a half and it's not going to last so You know come next week or two weeks around it's going to be two and a half It's going to be minus 150 where it's going to be three and a half which are spots. I don't want to go Uh, you can actually I would also shop around because while you were talking I pulled up wrote out in sportsbook Because I'm lazy and don't want to try to connect to it You can actually get pretty good odds on maxi over two and a half at some other books as well Do they have season long awards there? Uh Is I think so I don't I don't typically bet futures I don't I'm just saying over his odds difference because he's plus 1200 for most improved player Okay, I'm in the process of betting this two and a half Field goal prop because I again I'm lazy and don't want to drive Uh To that okay, so let me pull up the uh the player Uh, it's team futures player futures the most improved Interface here is not great if we're being fully honest not to drag them. Uh a Lottery run sports book. Yeah, they just have they don't have awards Um, they have I might not feel the better awards here to be honest Um, but they have like most three pointers made and stuff like okay, uh, but I'm in on the maxi one So I'm happy about that pretty excited about that to have some action on the nba Uh for tomorrow night via maxi anything for you in the lakers? Warriors game or just the maxi props in the study section south x So for the the second game I think this is going to come down to what we actually get as the confirmed starting line for the Los angeles lakers because two days ago or three days ago Uh russia westbrook suffered a hamstring industry Hamstring injury now there were also some reports that he was expected to come off the bench That they wanted to start a new role for him Which would be not in the starting lineup and actually coming off the bench So he could uh, I think one of the quotes was that he could run free and run that second unit So he doesn't have to you know, worry about distributing the ball and taking his shots alongside LeBron and and anthony davis But then he suffered the sinjury. So what are we actually going to be seeing from them? and then You know, we had this whole thing with jordan pool and draymond green this video coming out. I haven't heard about that What do you what are you talking about? Yeah Obscure thing you're referencing. Yes. So just this little thing at practice in this video coming out and then jordan pool gets this massive extension So what role do we actually see? Uh jordan pool playing considering he's also the betting favorites win sixth man of the year So are they going to give him a ton of shots? Are they going to let him kind of run free if I had to go anywhere? I would lean on the under as I know I said at the top They're super tight to begin with the lakers of the past few years have historically started off very slow The warriors are gonna have their banner raising ceremony as they apparently do every other season at this point But I will lean on the warriors the under and I would lean on jordan pool for Probably points over threes is minus 166 for over two and a half Which can not spot that I want to go but I would go to over 18 and a half points minus 120 They just paid him a ton of money. They're not going to let him not take shots or not get him the ball specifically because he runs the the offense when steve curry is off the court And that is probably one of the the main things not just for pool versus or pool slash curry, but all players What is their role and when do they play? Yeah With the pool one is that more of a lean for you or do you feel good about that? I would I would feel good about jordan pool over 18 and a half points minus 120 the Warriors and the under would rather just be leans if I had okay perfect So the ones we feel good about our pool over 18 and a half minus 120 maxi over 18 and a half minus 128 and the maxi May threes uh over two and a half plus 110 at fandall But also check around on that one because there's some good numbers Link I think I plus 120 right and I will say one of the the main correlations I do have when I bet unders on games as I said that can be tough But when I do bet unders on games, I also look to bet overs on player rebounding props Yeah, you know we're gonna have missed shots. That means more rebounds try and correlate those things keep it nice and simple Okay, well that makes a lot of sense the time I'm excited because I already got one bet in based on uh your discussions here So maybe I'll be able to bet some mba throughout this year That is tom of vecchio check him out on twitter at dfs underscore tom find his work over at number fired tom Thank you for filling in both the day and last thursday Enjoy money in football enjoy nba open and hopefully we'll talk to you once again here soon Thanks for having me Alrighty back once again tomorrow talk about week seven in the nfl get the first read on that and also recap this past week I am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can get this podcast on the covering the spread podcast feed and the fan dual youtube page So go subscribe wherever you prefer to consume your content. We'll talk to you all once again tomorrow This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


Good morning, everyone. Praise the Lord. Thank you, Ravali and Nina, John and Chira for joining class this morning. Also, welcome to our in-person students and to our e-learning students who will be listening to this lecture later on. We'll begin with a word of prayer, so I'll ask since the mic is near Nina Santosh, Nina and Santosh can lead us in prayer, please. Father God, we thank you. We bless you for this day, Father. We submit each one of us unto your loving and Lord. Lord, teach us your ways, Lord, and help us to do it every day of our life, Lord. We submit us, Lord. In Jesus' precious way, we pray. Amen. Thank you. So last week we began looking at chapter three in Kingdom Builders and we began looking at, you know, how the work of the Holy Spirit, giving birth to the work of the Holy Spirit, we can learn some lessons from the Mary miracle. So we looked at, you know, how the Holy Spirit, through the power of the Holy Spirit, Mary conceived and she gave birth to the Son of God, how God's divine plan was unfolding in history, okay, the incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ. So we saw that and we were looking at how, you know, we can give birth to the work of the Holy Spirit and through some of the lessons that we can learn from this Mary miracle. The first thing we looked at was the work of the Spirit is released to the earth at the appointed time, okay, and we also saw that the work of the Spirit is read through ordinary people, okay. The third point is the work of the Spirit must be unadulterated, born purely of the Spirit, okay, and the fourth one is the work of the Spirit might be a cause for embarrassment, okay. So we stopped here, we're looking at point four, okay. We know that even though Mary conceived in a womb, the Son of God, it was through the power of the Holy Spirit. But did this bring her embarrassment? Yes, she could not go and tell anyone and everyone, no one would believe her story, okay. But we see that God spoke to people who mattered to her, okay. God spoke to Joseph in a dream, also the Holy Spirit came upon Elizabeth and she spoke. So those who mattered to Mary, God spoke to them.  Even if God calls you into full-time ministry, maybe your family, your spouse, you know, may not understand. But, you know, God will speak to them. God will speak to the select few who are very close to you. God will speak to them and they will understand because God was speaking to their hearts.  The next one is the fifth one is a work of the Spirit is released to normal natural process, okay. We see that, you know, although Mary conceived in a womb was something supernatural, it was a work of the Spirit. But we see that Mary had to engage through the natural process. God could have, you know, on the first day, get Mary conceived to the power of the Holy Spirit. On the second day, the baby could have come to full-term nine months. The third day, the baby could have been born, but we see that the God allowed it to go through the natural human process of pregnancy and delivery. So what does it teach us, you know, when God initiates his work in us by the Holy Spirit, we also need to co-labor with God, okay. And when we co-labor with God by his empowering grace, you know, we can see his work released here on the earth, which means that even though things are brought into us supernaturally, and of course, God is going to give us the grace and the gifts to fulfill the function that he is calling us to, we need to make our own sacrifices. Okay, there is sacrifices that is involved. We need to work hard. We need to persevere. We need to organize. We need to manage things. We just can't sit back and say, you know, hey, this is the work of God. I'll just sit back and relax. God will just do it. He'll just speak. Things will fall into place. He will orchestrate things. Yes, he orchestrates things, but it's important for us to work hard, persevere, plan, you know, organize things and manage what needs to be done. The sixth thing is we might encounter close doors until we reach God's appointed place, okay. Now, some of these things which we are learning in this chapter in the next chapter is what we already studied in fulfilling God's purpose for your life and in the publication receiving God's guidance, okay, in a minister's foundation, quite a repetition. So when we face close doors, not every door is a close door is a know from God, okay. We learned that in receiving God's guidance and the publication code of honor. Not every door is a closed door, which means that God wants us to enter even though we are carrying God's purposes, we're going to birth his purposes. It means that when God closes doors, it doesn't mean that, you know, it's not his purpose or it's, you know, that we're not fulfilling his purpose. It's just that he's telling us this is not the right place. He wants to birth it. This is not the right place. This is not the right people. This is not the right time. So, you know, we need to come to the place where we can birth God's purposes, the right place and the right timing. So in the case of Mary, you know, where Mary and Joseph had to travel to Bethlehem and she was full term and they were knocking on every indoor and imagine there was no place for them in any of the inns. It must have come as a big shock to them, disappointment, you know, discouragement, frustration. They could have even questioned, Mary could have even questioned, am I really carrying the son of God? You know, in my womb, if it's really the son of God, you know, God should, you know, prepare the best of the best inns in Bethlehem for us. But every in has shut its door and there was no room available. What was only available, the cattle shed. Okay. And they would never have envisioned or imagined that the son of God would be born in such a place. Okay. So what does that teach us when we are birthing God's purpose, which the Holy Spirit has, you know, put into us. We can face close doors, which means it does not mean that, you know, it's not God's purpose. It only means that when there's close doors, God is directing us to the place where he wants us to release what he is birthing in and through us. So we need to keep moving and moving till we come to the right place where God wants his work to be released and not get frustrated and disappointed and think this is not God's purpose. I'm at the early fulfilling God's purpose. Okay. The next thing is the work of the Spirit often has simple, humble beginnings. See, the son of God was born where in the cattle shed and where was, what was his manger? His manger was an animal feed trough, okay, where you put food for the animals to eat. So we see that it was not in a palace. It was not in the rich man's house. It was not in the best of the best five star or three star ins in Bethlehem. Okay. So what does it teach us?  It comes in very simple, humble, small beginnings. Okay. But even though it's simple, small, humble beginnings, it is something that is going to be really a damaka and the sense is going to be really powerful. It is going to impact the entire world. And, you know, two scripture passages that we can talk about this on this point is Zechariah chapter four verse six. It says, not my might, not my power, but by my spirit. Okay. And Zechariah, the same chapter was 10 verse four, chapter four was 10 says, who has despised the day of small things. So don't despise this day of small things or small beginnings. You know, don't get disappointed. It is still God's work, but he begins some things in very humble, small ways. Okay. The next one is the work of the spirit has to be protected and nurtured. Okay. So we see that, you know, Mary and Joseph, did they take care of baby Jesus? Yes, they did nurture, take care of the child when there was harm and danger. When the angel of God told him, get up, go to Egypt, you know, they went and then the time came to leave Egypt and go back to Judah. They did come back. So we see that, you know, they did take care of baby Jesus. Okay. Mary didn't say, Hey, this is a supernatural birth. This is the son of God. This is God. I don't have to take care of God. He himself can take care of himself or God can send his angels to take care of him. I don't need to take care of him. You know, that would have been foolish, but we see that Mary and Joseph, they take care of baby Jesus. They nurture him, protect him as their parents. Okay. So what do we learn that every work of God that is birth in us, his purposes has to be nurtured and protected. Okay. Just because it's the work of God, it does not mean that we be irresponsible. We have to be good stewards of what God has entrusted to us and whatever he has given to us, we need to do it with excellence and we need to do it well. Okay. So that is the work of the Holy Spirit in helping us to be kingdom builders and how through the Mary miracle, you know, we can learn some of the things that, you know, how the Holy Spirit births his plans and purposes through our lives. Okay. So that is chapter three. Anyone has any questions? Chapter three about the Holy Spirit as our director in us being kingdom builders. Any questions? No. Okay. There are no questions. We'll move on to chapter four, the nature of a God given vision. Okay. We studied again this quite in detail in your first year, first semester in ministers foundation, but we will look at a few things to reiterate or we look at most of it to reiterate what we have learned. Okay. So the Holy Spirit, you know, is our director even as he directs us in kingdom building, even as we are kingdom builders. And we know that the Holy Spirit communicates to us. How does he communicate to us through the word also through prophecy. Okay. Through people to dreams and visions. Okay. What else? The prompting stillings in a witness of the Holy Spirit, all of that we have learned. Okay. So the Holy Spirit of God communicates to us through dreams and visions. Now, when we talk about dreams and visions, we're not only talking about something that is supernatural supernatural spiritual experiences of God. But it is also something that we can refer to when the Holy Spirit is giving us ideas, dreams, purposes, goals, strategies that he wants to birth in us as his people. Okay. So when we talk about dreams and visions, we're not just talking about supernatural spiritual experiences of God, but we're also talking about how the Holy Spirit uses dreams and visions to birth in us, his people, his plans, goals, purposes and dreams. Okay. And you know, through visions and dreams, it's not just some heavenly entertainment for us. Okay. Like when we see pictures or, you know, movies, you know, something like that.  So every dream and vision that the Holy Spirit gives to us is pregnant or full, you know, waiting to give birth to the kingdom purposes that God wants to be fulfilled in and through us. Okay. So in this chapter, we're going to basically understand how God imparts his visions and how God takes us on this journey to see his vision fulfilled. So it's so wonderful that God just does not give us dreams and visions, but also how he takes us on this journey, how he prepares us and how he guides us and leads us to fulfill this vision and the dream or the plan and the purpose he's giving to us. And you know how in the process, how to carry out his purposes, his plans that he has for his kingdom here on earth. Okay. So even as we study this as kingdom builders, it will help us or enable us to walk accurately with God and to know how God is preparing us to fulfill his plans, dreams and visions. Okay. So in this chapter, there are 11 insights concerning God given vision. Okay. The first one is that the God given vision is a divine command and an authorization. Okay. So it is something that is divine command and authorization means the authorization is coming from heaven. Okay. It's a command that's coming from God. It's a God given vision that he wants to establish and extend here on the earth. So since it's a command, what should we do? A command has to be followed. It has to be obeyed. Okay. And what does authorization do? When you have an authority, what do you do? When you have, yeah, you have the power. Okay. You have the boldness. You have the confidence.  So he says, okay, he comes and makes the announcement.  We have so many assessments, so many assignments, not possible at all. It says, I don't know. This Pastor Nancy said, okay. And then you'll go to Pastor Nancy and said, Oh, this, this, this, this. And then she says, I don't know. Okay. So that is a divine authorization and a divine authorization. Whoever says it, you know, says it with boldness. There's, there's no fear and there is confidence and whatever has been said has to be followed. So even as we carry God's vision, we have this divine command which has to be obeyed and also we can have this boldness, this confidence and be fearless. Okay. Sometimes when we're carrying or most of them and we're doing God's plan and purpose for our lives, you know, we can shy away, we can be afraid, we can feel incompetent, we can feel, you know, that, you know, we are not able, we are not able to do it, but then we need to be bold, fearless and confident. Why should we be bold, fearless and confident? Because when it is God's vision for our life, it is backed up with God. Okay.  Okay. So nothing can stop us from fulfilling this God given vision and dream. Only what can stop us ourselves? Yes, our own unwillingness, our own feeling of incompetence or our feeling of, you know, failure or that we can't do it. Nothing can stop us from fulfilling God's vision and dream. Now, the one that God gives the vision to becomes a vision bearer, that means he bears that vision. Okay. So what does he do when he bears that vision? Okay. God wants him to execute that vision here on earth through that. So, when God wants to execute his vision here on earth, he raises up a person, he gives him the vision, they become the vision bearer. And then he birds that vision in a certain place. Okay. And so the person who has this vision is proclaiming the message. And what is he doing? He's not doing it all by himself. He's, you know, when he's proclaiming the message, he's sharing his vision, he's tearing the hearts of other people around him to come and join his vision. So when God gives us a vision, it's not for I me myself and I me myself to do it by myself individually, but it is also co-laboring, co-partnering and co-working with others. God wants others to labor in our vision. Okay. So he stirs up people who are like-minded, who will be the right people to fulfill the plan and vision for your life. And he will bring about that purpose, he will fulfill that purpose in your life. Okay. So also God raises a man. Okay. Man means a human being generally, okay. Man and woman. And whose vision is to fulfill a specific purpose of God. And God gets him to proclaim this message or gives him a ministry that, you know, through which he can fulfill his plan and vision. And he becomes a vision holder of the vision bearer. And then he carries out his vision. And how does he do it? He finds different methods, different strategies, comes up with different plans. And he also incorporates different people into his method and strategy who are skilled and talented in those specific areas who can help in bringing about that vision.  Okay. So we look at a few examples of men of God in the Bible to see how God worked through them. There were the vision bearers, but we will see how God worked through them. Okay. So the first example is Moses. Okay. Sorry. The first example is Moses. Okay. So we see that, you know, when Moses was, you know, almost 40 years old, we read in Acts 7, verse 23 says when he was 40 years old, it came to his heart to visit his brethren, the children of Israel. That means at the age of 40, he knew what was his divine calling plan and purpose. So he bonds the vision bearer. Okay. God stirred up his heart to come to a place where he can use Moses to deliver his people out of Egypt. And so also we see that, you know, God had a plan and purpose before that as well. He had, you know, purpose that he would be taken into the palace and be trained to be the next pharaoh, the leader of Egypt. So all these were the seeds in his life. And all this was God's divine orchestration of circumstances in his life to bring him to a place where he can birth God's vision of delivering his people. Okay. So we see that sometimes God's vision can come to a simple steering in our heart or prompting in our heart, you know, something that really captures and holds our heart. Or sometimes they can be something like, you know, something that will really catch our attention. Okay. Like the burning bush. For Moses, there were two things. There was a stirring in his heart. And he came to know what was his divine call purpose that was to deliver his people out of Egypt because he knew he was not an Egyptian. He was an Israelite. And also, after 40 years, when he had messed up at the age of 80, God used the burning bush, you know, to catch his attention. Okay. So sometimes God can use a burning bush to get our attention. And it's a place where a burning bush is a place where God's presence, where God's voice is released to reveal your call and your destiny. So for some people it can be like the burning bush experience, where they can experience the presence and the voice of God. Sometimes it can just be a stirring in your heart. Okay. So we see that when he was 40 years old, there was a stirring in his heart. But 40 years later, God encountered Moses through the burning bush. Okay. So we also look at Nehemiah's life. Okay. Nehemiah, what did Nehemiah do? What did Nehemiah do? Will the walls of Jerusalem? It was ruined. The walls had broken down. The gates were burned down. And where was Nehemiah? Was he in Jerusalem? Yes. He was in Sushan, Persia. Okay.  Okay. What, how is the situation in Jerusalem?  Now I'm sure, you know, Hanani, the brother who shared this, would have shared this news with many other Jews. Okay. But no one's heart was stirred up like Nehemiah's heart was stirred up. And what did Nehemiah do when he heard this? He wept and mourned and fasted and prayed. It was not just for one day, two days. It was almost for three months, so much so that he was so grieved, so sad and so depressed that the king could know that something is really wrong with Nehemiah. Okay. So sometimes the Holy Spirit births his vision in and through us to a stirring in our hearts. So we need to pay attention to those stirring in our hearts. And we see that, you know, God led Nehemiah to carry out his mission. Okay. He goes to Jerusalem and he carries out the divine plan and vision.  So it's basically for him to go and do it. Why Nehemiah? You don't know. But if you look at the book of Nehemiah, we can look and, you know, we can use our wisdom or knowledge to understand that he was in a very prominent place of leadership next. Now the king very close to the king, the most trusted person, you know, the king would ask for wine and he would pour it and give that means there had to be the most trusted person. Okay. So he was somebody so close to king and so he could get authorization from the king. He could get materials. He could get permission. He could get leave. He could get the money. He could get protection. Everything the king provided for him. Okay. So if it was somebody else, it would have been difficult because if you read the book of Nehemiah, we know that there was it was not very easy for them to build the walls. Okay. A lot of the neighboring, the people, the Arabs were giving him a lot of trouble. Three people Sandballet and Tobiah, I think, and Tobiah Sandballet and somebody else, Hornet or something. Okay. So they caused a lot of problem and difficulty for Nehemiah. Okay. But Nehemiah because he had the king's authorization and the permission and everything, things have become so much more easier. So we see that, you know, God stirred up his heart and he followed that stirring and he did something about it and God was able to birth his plan and purpose through Nehemiah. Okay. The third thing is that a God given vision has appointed time for initiation and execution. Okay. We know that God works in Kronos time and Cairo's time. Okay. So look at Acts 7, verse 17 and 20. Can somebody read that please? Acts 7, 17 and 20. But when the time of the promise drew near when God had sown to Abraham, the people grew and multiplied in Egypt. At this time, Moses was born and was well pleasing to God and he was brought up in his father's house for three months. Amen. So here we see that, you know, but when the time of the promise drew near, that means God had promised Abraham that your descendants will, your children, children will be our slaves in an unknown country, foreign country for 400 years. So the time was the Kronos time. All this time God was preparing, orchestrating things. Okay. Did everything and it was now the Cairo's moment. So the verse 17, but when the time of the promise, so this is the Kronos time. Okay. It was not the fullness of time, but the time was nearing the Cairo's time. And he says at this time, Moses was born. That was a Cairo's time. Okay. So the Cairo's time is the fullness of time when the time is ripe, when the time is near, when it's the fulfillment of the birthing of God's plan and purpose. Okay. So when the Cairo's time is the fullness of time is approaching, you know, there are two things. There's both external and internal factors. Okay. So for the Cairo's moment, or the time of season for the initiation and the execution of God's given vision, there is something like the external and the internal factors. So what is the external factors? People. Okay. The, you know, the vision better. He needs people around him to help him execute the vision that God has given him. So there are some people that God would remove. There are some people, sorry. Okay. There are some people that God would remove of the way. There are some people that God would bring into your life, the right people. And sometimes, you know, it's a previous generation that this runs its course and makes way for the next generation. Also God prepares the place. He takes the person who's the vision bearer to the right place to execute his plan and his vision. Okay. And also we see that, you know, God prepares the things that are surrounding the vision bearer like the family. Okay. The people around the tribe or the culture and also his finances. So all of these things to come together at the Cairo's moment. So these are external factors. What are the internal factors? Right heart attitudes. We saw all this in ministers foundation, right heart attitudes, right relationship with people, maturity and spiritual development in various areas of our life, putting a personal family, a personal life and a family home, everything in discipline and in order, possessing the heart of a servant, being faithful in little things and Christ like character. Okay. We studied all of this in quite a lot of detail in ministers foundation. Okay. So we can, you know, the when the Cairo's moment comes, we can either, you know, bring it into fulfillment, both God's plan and purpose, or we can delay things. How do we delay things? Yeah, by not being, you know, external factors and internal factors are not in the right place. That means we're not managed our finances. Our family is not ready. Or we are, you know, we're not in the right place. Okay. And we don't have the right people or the internal factors, you know, not having the right heart attitudes Christ like character. So, you know, there are several. So there all of these things need to come to place when the Cairo's moment comes, so that we can both God's plan and purpose. So sometimes when you know, hey, I'm, I think it's the right time for me to both God's plan and purpose, but things are not happening. Why is it not happening? Then you can look at the external and internal factors. Okay. But there is not. Is there only one Cairo's moment in our life and one Kronos moment. Why? Why are there many? Okay, God works. That means that we say that there are various plans. God has always so much more for us. God takes us to different seasons in life, right? And every season has his own plan and purpose and he's preparing us for the ultimate plan and purpose. So every season he's preparing us for his plan and purpose. And we need to be like the sons of Isikhar, understanding and knowing the times and the seasons. Okay. So we need to understand the times and seasons as God is taking us through even as he unfolds his dreams, his visions to be fulfilled in and through our lives. Okay. Yes, Anand, you have a question. When we see this context and this differences, how we can easily identify this Kronos and Cairo's? Okay. How do we identify Kronos and Cairo's? For example, when we look at Joseph's life. Okay. Now, or we look at David's life. Now, David was only 13 years old when he was, you know, was anointed as king by Samuel. And Joseph was a very young boy. Okay, so we'll study that. But it took so many years of their life, 17 or plus years for them to come into the fulfillment of their dreams or plans or what the prophet Samuel had spoken over David.  And at the right time, at the right moment, 400 years, the Cairo's moment when Moses was born. And why was not Moses killed like any of the other Hebrew babies and God, why did God preserve him? It's not because he was partial, not because that he had already predestined or preplanned that Moses was going to be, you know, the leader. And so he saved him and killed the other babies because he did not have a plan and purpose for them. No, that's not right. He has a plan and purpose for everyone. It's because of the step of faith that Moses's parents had taken. If the other Hebrew parents had taken the same step of faith, you think the babies would have been protected? Yes, because God is not partial. So it all led up to the Cairo's moment when Moses was born. And that also God was planning and preparing. And when he was at the age of 40 was when God stirred up his heart, the Cairo's moment for birthing it. So there was the external factors and the internal. The external factors was God was arranging people around him. God was arranging, brought him to the right place. Moses is the right place in the palace and then all of these external. But what happened to in Moses's life? He took things matters into his own and then delayed those things more further. So even in David's life, David was the son, but there was because of King Saul, all the things that happened. How God prepares us. The fourth thing is a God given vision requires preparation. We studied quite a bit of this in the first year of ministers foundation. God prepares us before he births his plan and his vision, his calling and his drifting through us. So the primary preparation is our personal spiritual walk with God and also growth into Christ like character. So even as God is preparing us, he will give us opportunities to work alongside with others, to get into others vision sometimes so we can learn to work alongside leaders, great men and women of God. So we can learn from them and all this is going to help us immensely to birth our own dreams and vision so that we can be fully trained and equipped to fulfill God's plan and purpose for our lives. Sometimes when God is preparing us, we can find ourselves doing something that is not directly related to the vision that God has placed in our heart. So what do we do at those times? At those times, we just have to learn. We just have to go through the seasons, we just learn. Sometimes we can feel that it's very disconnected. But however God is preparing us, he's developing us in the areas that are important for us to fulfill his plan and purpose through our lives. So in the preparation time is never wasted time. We learned that for some of them the preparation time was 17 years, 30 years like Moses and Paul and David and even Jesus had to wait 30 years. But our focus should be that we should be yielded to God's, yielded, submitted in total surrender in every and each season of our lives. So let's look at some of the preparation processes that God takes people through. So we look at some men of God in the Bible. Can you just pass the mic to him please? The first person we look at is the life of Joseph. Preparation time, for some people it is something else. But in the case of Moses, we see it was delayed because he did things in his own soul. So my question is like the preparation time, will it depend on us? Like if we're being more obedient, the preparation time will go fast. But if we are not being obedient, if we are doing things on our way, not submitting, the preparation time will be long. Yes, that's what we talked about the kairos moment. The kairos moment, the birthing of the kairos moment depends on the external and internal factors. We can delay things. Delay is not from God, but delay is from us. Because God is not in a hurry to pour out his anointing through vessels that are not prepared. It will waste his anointing. Instead of extending God's kingdom, it will become a hindrance. The person is not prepared. The person is not in the right place. The right people along with him is not mentally prepared. So he's not spiritual enough. Spiritual maturity is not there. Christ's likeness is not there. It is going to actually bring a downfall. And it's going to not only destroy the vision that God has for him. God can use someone else, but it's going to destroy so many people's life associated with the vision. So God is very mindful of that. So let's look at the life of Joseph. Joseph was 17 years old when he was sold as a slave. And when he was 30 years old, he was brought out of prison. So he spent a whole 13 years in Egypt. 11 years as a slave and then a manager in Potiphar's house. And then two years in the prison. And then we see that for another nine years, he faithfully serves as a Prime Minister in Egypt. And when he was 39 years old, the first time he gets to see his brothers. And when he was probably 41 years old, the second time his brothers come along with his father. So it took approximately 30 years from the time he had the dream to the time of the fulfillment. His brothers came and bow down before him. And then he spent how many years, 70 years fulfilling God's purpose for his life. So we see that for Joseph, it happened when he was 40 years old. So don't be in a hurry. And it's important, even though it happened late, it was important that you continue to walk in the vision and the plan and purpose that God has for your life. So he walked in it for the next 70 years. Let's look at Moses' life. Moses, we know that his seed or spiritual destiny was that he was taken and raised up in the palace. And thus it was his initial preparation and him positioning himself to be the leader. So being in the palace, he was destined to be the next leader for Egypt. So it was easy for him to send away his people to their own land. So God orchestrated those things and also training him up to be a leader. He was trained mentally, physically in every way to be the next pharaoh, the next ruler. And at the age of 40, he had the study in his heart and he knew that he had a divine purpose and his purpose was to not just rule over Egypt, but to deliver his people. But he made a mistake. He tried to accomplish it through his own wisdom, his own understanding, his own carnal nature. So every time we do things in our own carnal nature, our own peshy nature, what happens? We delay God's plan and purpose for our lives. So we see here that Moses tried to attempt to do it all by himself. But it's important that we do it with God and with people who God brings about in our lives. It only delayed things by another 40 years. So what did Moses have to do the next 40 years? He had to live in the wilderness taking care of his father-in-law's sheep from the palace to the wilderness to being a shepherd. And then God had to wait for another 40 years. Why? Because the king, the pharaoh who knew Moses had to die. So what should have taken 400 years? It took 440 years because of what Moses did. But we see that Moses was able to carry out God's life assignment for his life. But again, because of a mistake he made, he was not able to enter the promised land. Instead of speaking the rock, he struck the rock again. So he died at the age of 20, but he fulfilled God's plan and purpose for his life, but sadly could not enter the promised land. Look at the life of David. David was 13 years old when he was anointed as king. And what was his initial training? He killed a lion and the bear as a shepherd. He was also a musician and so he was well known among his people. If you look at 1 Samuel chapter 16 verse 17 and 23 and 1 Samuel chapter 17 verse 15, we see that he was already a hero in the hearts and minds of people of Israel. And then his success came when he killed Goliath. But even though he was successful and people loved him, King Saul made him a commander of thousands of people and sent him to fight battles thinking that he would die in the battle. But we see that God protected David and what happened for the rest of, as long as Saul lived, Saul was running behind whom? David was chasing behind him. So we see that David was running away from King Saul. He was like a, you know, he was like a vagabond running, living in caves, you know. And for a long time, but during those times he did some great exploits and God brought people into David. There were 400 strong men army that he had and some of these men were people who became generals in his army when he became king. Now when David was 23 years old, he became king of only Judah, right? And he ruled there for seven years and six months and then at the age of 30 he was finally made king over entire Israel and Judah. And so he reigned as king for the next 40 years. So it took 17 years from the time of his calling or his anointing as king to him becoming the king of Israel and Judah. So from the age of 15 to age of 30, so 17 years. And then he served God's purpose in his generation and he died around when he was 70 to 75 years. We look at the life of Paul. Paul must have been 33 years when he met, when he encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus. And soon after that, you know, he was, he spent three years in, sorry, yeah, he spent three years in Damascus and then in Arabia. Why did he have to flee to Arabia because people tried to kill him? As soon as he encountered Christ, he started preaching the gospel so the Jews were against him, they wanted to kill him. So he ran away to Arabia and that is where they say that, you know, he received most of his revelation. Okay. And then we see that he visited Jerusalem for 15 days and during that time people tried to kill him. Then he went to Tassus and he spent time, 13 years in Tassus in Syria in Cystelia. And, you know, towards the end of those 13 years, Barnabas comes to Tassus and brought Saul to Antioch. And so Saul spends a whole year in Antioch teaching and preaching. Then after 14 years, he goes back to Jerusalem. Okay. So it is 17 years from the time he encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus to his first missionary journey. And the 17 years are called as a silent years of Paul. Not that he really didn't do anything, he received most of his revelation during that time. He also preached and taught in the synagogues, not that he was not doing anything, but for 17 years. And Paul must have been about 50 years old when he began his ministry. So if you are thinking, oh, I'm 25 or 30 or 35, 40 years, don't worry, Paul was 50 years. But look at the immense work that God fulfilled in and through Paul. So we see that the 17 years silent years was Paul's training period. Jeremiah, he was the next person. Jeremiah was given his prophetic call even before he was born. And God told him not to allow people to let him know he was too young. But from the time he had the first utterance or the first visitation to his first prophetic utterance, it took 16 years. That means for the first time when God visited him to the time that he made his first prophetic utterance, how many years did it take? 16 years. So we see that from the time that God gives us his vision to the appointed time when he wants to be executed and bring it to fulfillment, there is a time of preparation. So during this preparation time, there is also a waiting time and we'll see what we need to do during the waiting time after the break. We stop here and come back after the break.


In this module we will talk about again the form control system but as I have already told you in our previous module that we have to be very careful in case of this form control system and the selecting of the anti-foaming agent. So there are different factors which effect on the anti-foam requirement. Next one is the nature of the medium. Medium or a media rich in the proteins will tend to foam more readily than the simple media. If there is a media having carbohydrates having a less proteins then there is a less chance of foam formation. So the nature of the medium is very critical factor in producing the foam. So the product so when their fermentation process will on, numerous various kind of the product is are formed. So as concerned the nature of the product then that can effect on the foam production. As an example that secreted proteins, nucleic acids when they release either the cell death either by the hydrolysis of some detergent like properties. So that is why that help that facilitate the foam production. In third case, aeration and the stirring speed of the impellers also effect on the foam formation. So the fourth problem is that the use of the mechanical foam controllers. The foam control device such as mechanical and ultrasonic foam breakers help to reduce the anti-foam requirement. So that can also be when there is a highly aerobic fermenters sometimes we can change the fermenter type. Sometimes the straight fermenters replaced by the airlift fermenters or any other type of the fermenters. So there are different strategies that can be utilized that can be used for decreasing the risk of foam formation. So as concerned the fifth effect on the head space volume. Sometimes when we utilize the maximum capacity of the fermenter that is mostly I have told you already that 75% of the total capacity of the fermenter can be utilized. The 25% space is required for the head space that is basically for the oxygen transfer and the gaseous transfer and the foam production space. So if there is a large head space then there is a greater tendency for the foam to collapse under its own weight because when there is an increase in the then sometimes what happen then there will be automatically self-killing of the foam bubbles. So if we keep the 50% head space volume then that is basically this kind of the situation we can see but in case of 75% we have the problem. So as concerned the fifth but as concerned the sixth the condenser temperature. So in Liberty scale reactor the cold condenser temperature can help to control the foam. So the density of the foam increase when it moves from the warm head space volume to the cold condenser region. So this can cause the foam to collapse. So by this strategy by using the condenser temperature we can have the less risk of foam problem. So on other hand if there is a chemical antifombers then we can use some mechanical foam cutters as I have already told you in a one point. In this slide you can see that mechanical foam cutters but there is one problem by using the mechanical cutters because in a small scale there are different gadgets and the probes has to be fitted with the fermentor vessels but in such case that only be possible in a large scale or industrial scale fermentor when all such kind of the probes are attached to the surface or the periphery of the fermentors. So that can only be so there are different shapes and you can see here that this one this is having a sharp edge blades. So different shapes so in this slide you can say another type of foam cutter and then here you can see another foam cutter which is mostly utilized in a industrial scale fermentors. So there are different and genetical shapes which can be utilized but there is only one problem that there should be a free space where we are using otherwise there is if there is any probes insulting from the top to the fermentation medium then we cannot use these mechanical foam cutters attached to the surface of the working volume.


The Niger Nasdaq Petroleum Corporation NNPC says the corporation generated total revenue of 209.54 billion Naira from oil and gas exports and domestic sales in January this year. The data also stated that about 40% of the proceeds from oil and gas exports and domestic sales in January were spent on joint venture assets and priority projects. The nation's oil and gas production structure is a major list played between the JV and the production sharing contract in Deepwater, Russia. Under the JV arrangement, both the NNPC and the private firms contributed to the funding of operations in the proportion of their equity holdings and generally received their produced crude oil in the same ratio. Total export crude oil and gas receipts for the period January 2020 to January 2021 stood at $2.73 billion, out of which the sum of $1.58 billion was transferred to JV Cash Coal as a force line charge and the balance of $1.15 billion was paid into the federation account.