What's up chat? What's up YouTube? This is need a podcast episode 104 a lot of things to talk about a lot of things to talk about We are in the middle of the MCS. There's club series. We might jump into some mid games mid Podcasts something like that. It's cool. It's a little unpredictable tonight. What we're doing and we started a podcast We're talking about are you picking sweet potato pie or pumpkin pie YouTube comment below? Sweet potato pie or pumpkin pie and I'll be honest the poll on Twitch right now is about split We got 46 votes for pumpkin pie and 40 for sweet potato pie This is coming down to a barn burner. It really is man If you guys want to watch these podcasts live twitch.tv slash dub dot you guys can check out all the action If you tune in on Tuesdays 8 p.m. Now that we're in the middle club series things are wild Things are all over the place. Uh, honestly, we're having a good time and at the end of the day boys, that is what it's about Having a good time As you see we only have one topic tonight man. There's a lot of things we could talk about and we'll see where the show goes but For the last week or so, you know, I got popped in club series.  I'm not talking about it. It's not happening It's not happening pie. It might be over cake. That might be another thing It looks like pumpkin pies want to take the vote right here I'm not talking about my club series. If you missed it, you missed it This is my show. We choose what we want to talk about check in the chat below You guys see the twitch chat right here all the cycles all the lunatics that are here every single night especially on Tuesdays, uh So Yes chaos has been in live events One that I remember. Yes But like I said, um Yeah, so you can be here every single Tuesday. So today we're going to talk about franchise gg Um, I have to give you a little background story after my streams after my production, which is the best. Um I do try to play Madden offline. I've been playing my buddy Vilma who I've known since madden 08 madden 08 I met them one of the first honestly Vilma is probably the first person from internet gaming that I have met in real life Um, this is like madden when I we were like 19 and 18 and this was definitely madden 08 madden 09 and Um, so I mean Vilma go back over 10 years playing madden, right? So, uh, we would always play mad. He was always good. He we were always, you know going back and forth and everything And uh then but he's never really embraced the mutt aspect of madden He's been one of those rags only guys type of you know what I'm saying them type of guys, bro Who I think are idiots because honestly if if you're good enough at madden to uh be one of the best rags players Why would you not try to win a belt? That's just how I feel. I don't see Why you wouldn't try to be the best at everything. I don't know. That's just me. Um, so He would always piss me off because he would not invest there He would not he would not Embrace the mutt lifestyle. Joe my god with the four months, man, but um So This is what happens. Um, so this year he got in the mutt a little bit more I told him grind from beginning grind seasons play seasons and you know spend a little bit of money on your team He gets in the mutt builds his team playing pretty good playing really good. We play a lot offline or off stream Getting ready for these club tournament games and he's in the jets club series This is his favorite team Boom who also is the just club series franchise gg franchise chives and honey. Um a a veteran to the madden scene A emb guy Uh through and through I I would say this franchise has always been like the run of emb Like they never really like embraced franchise, bro They never like piped him up. He was never on the billboards You know what? I mean like when the emb rollout happened Yo franchise was never like part of the and franchise gg They never brought him up, bro. He was like he was like the redheaded stepchild of emb, right? He really was that's just how it was. Um and how it went. Um I'm serious and you guys know that that's how it happened. Um, but franchises had a little bit of success in mcs It's been pretty good close friends with the emb guys, which is led by joke. Joke is pretty, but yeah I don't want to say lap dog. I I would I would make that more little man, but I but little man obviously is a lot more. He's the uh, probably the robin to jokes batman of the emb So but franchise, I don't know how to explain it. He's kind of like I don't know but he's just not he's not on the rollout He's not on the main like if they had a banner of the emb people he might have a little picture in the corner like, you know, like just Cracking in the corner that's all like he's he's they don't pipe him up, bro. They don't pipe him up so he's on the practice roster maybe but But it's always been a rumor that joke has played franchises online elimination games I asked joke person joke told me no, I believe him, but it's always been a rumor It's always been a rumor. That's all I'm saying, but I believe joke when he told me he hasn't but it's been a rumor I don't know if you guys believe it. I don't know if he would do it, but it's been a rumor so I'm saying so this is how club series goes Vilma does good Vilma boom all the way to the Last game he plays franchise to get to the winner's game like the winner's bread to win the winner's bracket Now this is this was Let me say I'll bring this up for you guys This was franchises offense Not only and franchise if you guys haven't have been living under a rock in this podcast or in the madden community or anything like that um the thing about What should we call it? Franchise was franchise was the one that cheated his way into the tournament. Well then cheat I don't think he cheated is the right word Oh I don't think cheating is the right word, but he was disconnect glitching. All right But you know, I think he would have made the tournament anyway But he was he was the number one person to start the whole disconnection glitch scum, uh, and then bragged about 25 and 0 and everything but And I'll tell you guys this is that this is the offense that he then brought to the tournament This is the offense, uh that he was running I don't know if you guys have seen this. I did post it. Vilma posted it after the one after he lost He lost the Vilma the first game and this was the offense that they were running That I don't know if all imb was just it was just um franchise, but let's take a look at this man and uh I said this is it. This is just like a quarterback draw instant Just get the ball. Nobody reacts and he runs around the side. This was literally his whole offense was run this play Right, this is the offense. He brought. I don't know if you guys saw that This was the offense he brought to the tournament this one, right So this is what Vilma played against to get to the winner's bracket To and Vilma won this game, right? This was a uh, like I said was This was his offense doing that. Uh, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just franchise. I would assume it's just franchise Um, and so after this game Vilma plays and Vilma says, you know what? Yo, that this is this is crazy, bro This is crazy. Like like like Uh, what I was gonna say, I this should be illegal, right? If you saw this, I mean, I feel like you would be like that's illegal so after the game No, actually I think then they play So Vilma gets to the winner's bracket. He's the winner, right? Franchise gets all the way through the loser's bracket and now franchise has to beat Vilma twice Um, they play the first game and franchise wins the first game So now it's a win and get in between franchise and Vilma. Boom. So I don't know when Between the first game and in that game, then they banned this run. They banned this. They banned it I don't know how it happened. They're frying 15 months There he is They banned that run Now I don't know when they did it Uh Yes, so I don't know when they ban now. I'll be honest A lot of people say, oh, that's that's mad and that's part of mad and you gotta you gotta learn to adjust and you gotta You know the lab work for that like bro that that's just like I like I that that I don't know how I feel about that.  I don't know but So after the first game now we got one game win and get in game seven Vilma versus franchise Somewhere in between that that run was banned. So franchises whole offense is in shambles, right? This is when sunday I believe is when they played. Yeah, they played sunday because everything got delayed. They played the first game sunday It got banned Now, obviously joke friend of franchise is going to be on the franchise side Don't ban it learn how to play. How do you ban stuff to first play Vilma?  I'll show you the yeah, that that's just that's just I don't know what that is So I don't know how you could be a fan of madden and then turn around and and turn around and say, you know That you know, that's good for the game or whatever like there's something good about that I don't think there's anything good about that as we had this is the discord to get by the way Background is a w today background. It's a bridge. It's fall time fall is the best season to me You know So this is the discord that we get right? This is the discord. I mean, this is the discord that we get You know So this is the discord boom Oh, this is problems discord.  So now after franchise's run gets banned Franchises ducking this game that should have been played on sunday now. We're getting to monday. It doesn't play I woke up early yesterday when I say early. I mean like noon played vilma and madden got him ready for these games And franchise was nowhere to be found So naturally if you're vilma, you're thinking man, he's waiting for joke to play the game like that That's what you're thinking right So then at the end of the day, um It came down that what happened was In this chat room during these arguments and why aren't we playing can somebody come play bro?  The f word it will get you out of here for real But honestly um, I just think the whole yeah just like You know, I don't know. So that's what happens Uh, and so that's why he got banned and got yes, he got baited Vilma 1 million percent got baited by joke in the chat. That is 1 million percent happened, bro That is what happened. That is a million percent. What happened joke baited Vilma into Anger mad and caught him the f word. That's what happened. Then he got booted That is 1 million percent why he got banned because he said he called joke the f word and then everybody including joke said That's a hate word and it's to s ban him. That's what happened in the chat. Really?   That's 1 million percent.  Let's go man Yeah, Vilma definitely Vilma definitely probably Vilma definitely just Yeah So I was but at the end of the day if If Vilma just doesn't say the f word he's still in there honestly For real for real But he said it so you can't yeah, I mean you can't really defend it But it was the bait and switch and then the day it's not like joke started saying all right I'm gonna give him to say the f word it just worked. He just did It wasn't like it was Joe's goal, but King jack man. Let's go man two months Thanks, buddy Small males are witty It was in the discord chat like the general the typing chat. It was literally typed out. So it was ggs Bro, I read the whole I read the whole transcript I read the whole transcript, bro. Yeah, I mean I read the whole transcript all joke dude was sit there and troll him to death, bro Joke just trolled him to death when at the end of the day. It had nothing to do with joke You can't bait somebody. I just literally just said that It had nothing to do with joke Joke might be terry and lannister But at the end of the day No, bro, like It's just a crumb move, bro Like at the end of the bro the game had nothing to do with joke like nothing Like why is he even in the conversation? Put it that way. That's like, why is he in the conversation? Put it that way. Why is he in the discord?  Why is he in the discord?  Oh, yeah, Voma's a dickhead. No, Voma's a dickhead for what he did, but that's my question. Why are you in the discord, bro? Everyone's in the discord. No, bro. No, bro To everyone's in the discord.    You right?  Like what am I doing? Jesus Christ Can't trust small males, bro Can't trust small males This is just corny.  They've never hit him up and in problem. You know how you know how it works, bro Okay, they in franchise must be stalling because one his whole offense got banned So he's going to stall as long as possible. That's just what that's literally what's going to happen Like for real because anybody would do that.      I text joke on like sunday I say bro if they gotta if franchise going to discord stream, which he probably is I say, yo, I would like to watch this shit, right? Because y'all be discord streaming for your homies now.      I think it's insane. I never think somebody would do that I never think but I got left on red. I reached out. Yo, can I can I join can I join the stream to watch? I reached out.  I guess I mean you got to keep that. Yeah, we're not We are not questioning the ban, bro At the end of the day, bro, you just can't What I what I can't say motherfuckers Because somebody ran somebody ran and told that bro.  Look look look get him out of here You know, I swear to god Oh, yeah, he in the chat watch everything. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, y'all fraud Because I'll be honest. I'll be honest I listen if I was playing somebody and they called me the f word. I would point out too. I'm being honest Motherfuckers can't be real.  Can't nobody be real. Yes I would snitch Now these motherfuckers. No, man. No, it wasn't me. He's solid. No, can't nobody be real.  Let's get real.  Y'all always been crumbs.   Those the motherfuckers like that be winning. That's all Don't got no morals That shit's just like I'm way wrong, bro It's what it is, man. I'm just still mad. I got left on red with my text message. I'm still mad about that, bro Y'all do your all right. All right, boogie. Let's let's be real though. Half of the chat does report messages in here, bro Yeah, why they ain't put a big easy sign in the chat? I mean pride, bro No, he was out of line, bro. No, he was out of line, bro He was out of line at that day. Pride was out of line, bro. No, he was out of line, bro Yo Motherfuckers, yo, motherfuckers that say y'all be saying pride can't run a 40. Y'all don't know.  No, ain't no story. No, ain't no time for that. That's a problem story, bro That motherfucker pride turned to endowment and sue real quick. You be seeing him chill on stream like this Nah, bro Nah Lion sue. I'm not no. It ain't even it's like Nebraska sue It's Nebraska. So, you know, Nebraska sue.  I don't want you to go through that, bro No, probably you pride. No, you had to get if he was angry, there'd be one thing Kd if he wasn't angry Kd. I like you, bro Bro, y'all can ask probably during his stream if he yoked somebody up. I can't tell them these stories, bro But I would just say from my from me I probably was a little out of line. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say He was he was out of line, bro Nah, y'all was out of line No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Y'all some cheating motherfuckers and that's like I'll be real probably them they they pretty much They not as bad as emb, but they right there, bro All right, broken tide relax, bro See, you don't say the word pussy. You don't say that bro.  That's just that's just wild Yeah, you're wrong, bro All right, bro, I'm I'm I tell the story now because they think I'm they think I'm tripping. This what happened Madden I swear I told this story before Madden 17, bro Kiv vs. Vault one of the best games I think I stole told the story when I showed this game on the podcast This is one of the best games This is one of the best games in mcs history because it was vault when he was swerving versus, uh Vault when he was swerving versus, um, kiv when he was tough madden 17 madden challenge Group play This is how it worked, right? This was back when only two people made it out of groups and the point differential was such a big deal, right?  It was bad It was And and kiv didn't know what to do kiv was lost, bro But But kiv Could have made he could have made it out. He just couldn't lose now on on everything. I love Here go kiv sitting right here tv's here, right? Problem true boy everybody that was there Literally telling this motherfucker kiv is like this look at the left and they're telling them like Literally the whole squad like right next to the stage the whole squad Which they should which anybody would do So kiv has this army of guys telling him to score And that's just part of being in a crew and having friends. It's just part of it, right?  We're the best games ever great game So the whole room sees The top man squad telling kiv all the score and everything like literally you see this motherfucker kiv talking to his friends talking to him So here go beast mode Mr. Beast mode good guy, Kansas City midwest good heart.  I'm gonna saw I'm gonna help this poor fella So Kansas City runs up On the stage. No lie. Here's the stage And the stage has like fake astral turf on it the stage. He goes like this runs up on right Stage right here beast mode. Not that tall. He and b guy. He might be five eight right here on the stage Take his hand. He go like this boom boom boom three points three points three points and and vote was like Now prob the leader of the squad was mad about this.  So that's when problem You know saying the goat turned into endemic ensue ran over and and put the beast mode in the cobra clutch in the middle of the Have you all watched the simpsons? the simpsons When bart get choked when Homer chokes bart. He's like That's how it was in the middle of the room But mind you nobody was there because it was really just the players and the film guys And at the time we were all like bro. What happens here?   I think B was there too. I think B was there I think ej was there franchise.  I don't ej might have not been walking or maybe I don't know if yet. I think he was here. I think he was born. No, I don't think ej might have not even been born I don't remember but b was there I think yo, I think prob jumped over like a whole row of chairs, bro Yo, I think he jumped over a whole row.  I think he cleared a whole row of chairs, bro That's it, bro nah Nah, bro.  No, that was the end and honestly that might have been there to be. I don't know what I bro Beast mode. I bro. I don't know if he's recovered from that day. I was about three four years ago.  No, I was it the classic Oh damn No, he won damn say he gave him the power that might have been the end of problem really That might have been yo problem might have passed his like his like powers to beast mode Because since then beast mode might be over problems since that's since the choke Might have been a space jam type of situation I don't know Could have backfired on the goat He hasn't got lucky Now he got lucky verse joke When he had the back the back kick returns And he said some people built some people not Oh, this is funny, bro Oh, it's funny times funny times, man Remember when we were all allowed at the events, bro? Remember when we were all allowed at the events, bro?       I know. I don't think he even knows I really don't think he knows. He really just plays madden. Yes. He just plays madden pops, bro He don't even know bro Yes, he don't know what squad he in but these tnc kids were rooting for this motherfucker like he was jesus Like bro, he was the best either. They love blocky or they really just don't like tray and honestly I'm kind of on the same fence. I'm like blocky a little bit more than I like tray honestly I'm being rude or really no But they were like bro It was like it was it was like it was their brother playing bro.    Honestly On they both have the same resume outside of decroft. Honestly tray is the black 49er.  Should I be arguing? I'm like, bro I need to wait the real life to argue with you.  I need to wait the real life My fingers my mouth works faster than my fingers pause But I don't want to be typing in the chat. I want to argue in real life That was way plausible I Don't want to be typing in the chat, bro That was crazy. You know, it was it was wild.  I'm telling you So that's why Vilma got banned. So franchise lives to fight another day He's still alive His offense is banned Fourth and gold defense. Yes No, bro, and and That's just how it works Bro, I don't know bro. I don't know if we'll ever have a live event again, bro I just want another like dream hack, bro Blocky is a great guy and like I said if listen If you were like, who do you want to go to lunch with tray or blocky? I'll be honest I'm going with blocky. We could chill Don't got to talk a lot Might talk about the weather a little bit.    Damn. Oh, what was that? What was that guy in like you ever? I was like, yo, what defense was that? Yo, what was on was that?   You can't hear it. You had to go like this there. You're the blocky lady like this Yo, yo blocky man. You want to play another? All right, good.  He's really getting popped. You think that's a good idea Yo, you know what if I put out my way on a safety and I put him at the end You think he'll stop the run? Yo, you know what? I'm over. I'm over gunslinger today You know, I might go back to escape matter of fact. I don't need no ability on my quarterback It's kind of overrated Matter of fact, you know what?   Yeah, I feel like allen Did you crush?       I swear to god. I swear to god.  I swear to god. I thought it was like one of the nerd streets kids Swear to oh, I swear to god I'm like bro. You play.  He's a little bit older now. This was like four years ago And then Vilma comes up to me after that tournament. I'm like, yo, what happened? He's not lost He said I lost to the little kid.     Can't wait.   I mean, I'm at like 5k, but you know I don't know. I don't know where 2k. I wish I was at 2k KD, you save lives in the hospital. God bless, bro And and and KD and listen You be in the hospital, right? And you probably put a lot of effort into that, right? You are at the top of the profession or you're somewhere in a profession, bro And for me and it's kind of almost like madden is a profession, bro Like it really is and it's almost like man I want to I want to have KD's job, but you know what? I don't want to invest any time or anything I want his job, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't really want to work for it. I don't really want to put time into it I just want to be able to be there Madden Madden ain't a profession. All right. That's the end of the podcast. That's the end of the podcast You're right. It's not Listen, listen Madden is not a profession, bro. It's not. So why do you expect it to pay y'all money? How can y'all say it's not a profession then be mad that it don't pay y'all money?  If you played for 10 hours a day, you wouldn't have to spend $2,000 That's all I'm saying But me and this is how I feel this is how I feel about Madden. This is how I feel about anything I am at the point of my life Where the time is more valuable than the money to me. I don't know if you guys are there. Maybe I'm old Uh, maybe I you know, I don't know. I think my time is more valuable than my money right now I just feel that way So for me, I would rather pay than than buy the money, bro Or spend that much time. So when people say when people say esports are free Bro these mother I watch apex. I'm gonna be real.  Well, you like it or not that doesn't matter But I watch I watch esports. I watch call duty.  I watch obviously I watch uh nick mercs. Everybody play call duty.   It's not There was no esport player that takes their esport as a hobby. It just doesn't work That just hasn't worked Yeah And mad exactly fierce madden is not that popular for it to be paying out buku bucks I don't know dude The pit listen Yes, DC used to be the first event or skimbo.  There's no all right. Yeah, you're right. Madden's in germany, bro All right, but i'm done. I don't we will talk about this more next week, bro And i'll talk about it all once I turn the podcast off, but bro you got I listen man The the top of e-sports in every e-sport is a job listen e-sports is a job Do like it is a 100 commitment if you want to be the best at something whether it be called duty madden rocket league Whatever world of warcraft. It's a commitment of your life. It is i'm sorry It is Yes, and if you don't see e-sports as a job, you won't make it. I'm be honest. You won't you won't make it. You won't be successful for real and uh You know and jobs require Commitment whether that be time or whether that be money All right, we're gonna get into some games now But like I said, this the pocket has 104 man Make sure you guys hit the like button be here tuesdays at eight o'clock. We're gonna talk more about this next week, man