So we've just started recording and maybe we'll just begin in a moment. You'll see, I've got a couple of colleagues with me on the call. They're really here just to sort of manage the technical elements of the call. So Steve who's on is our media experts and he's going to just be doing the editing and things afterwards. He's on to troubleshoot any problems. And Andrea is on as our events coordinator. And so she's just making sure that everything runs smoothly. Okay, excellent. But I think at this point, they'll fade into the background unless there's any. Great. You're both looking and sounding really good. So yeah, I'll just fade away now that be here. Thank you so much. So, so if we need to retake any particular segment, we'll just rewind to the beginning. We've got experts here. Exactly. It's wonderful to meet you. Thank you so much for taking the time. My pleasure. It's, I know that it's, it would have been great if we could have coordinated speaking at a meeting, but it's very difficult with time zones. We have, I know, I know those pesky time zone. We have members of our network who are sort of at each stage around the world and so it's always difficult to kind of find a time that works. We have, we have some colleagues from New Zealand that actually log in at 2 in the morning or 3 in the morning for the call. But it's, it's an awful lot to ask for various people. So, I thought if it's okay, what I would do is just start with a little bit of background about what this is about and network itself. And then maybe we could get into our dialogue on our conversation. Oh, I see one of your colleagues. Hi, we're live or not really live by recording. Good morning. Is that connection. All right. It's perfect. Okay. Everything is going very well. I was, I was just explaining that I'm going to start with just a little bit of background about the network itself and what this is about and why we've asked minister to speak. And then we'll get into the conversation. If that's okay for today. Perfect. And it's, it's just, I have to say, you know, I spend a lot of my time talking to people in different countries around the world. And it's, it's amazing to be able to look and see you sitting in an office working.  And so it is, it is definitely, it's definitely great. So, where I come from on this, my day job or where I started from was with the Canadian government. And I was responsible for as part of our preparation for the federal elections in 2019, setting up something called the digital citizen initiative. And what that was is it was looking at ways to engage with civil society to use their expertise in talking to sit to Canadians and getting people prepared to sort of inoculate people against disinformation ahead of the federal election. And in doing so, one of the things as the government became more and more engaged in this and following the election was recognizing that while a lot of the work that's going on has a domestic lens that we're looking at how we apply domestic policy instruments, legislation, regulation, all of these things to look at the global infodemic. The, the problems are really international. And if we're trying to think about how to solve these problems, we actually really need to find ways to work together with people from other countries and other places. There were not. Exactly. That's right. Exactly. Very, very similar. And yet, looking at this from a domestic perspective in government. I really struggled to identify who my counterparts were in other places. It was one of those kinds of things where the minister's office would come to me and say, who should we speak to in Germany. And I would say, I don't even know who in Germany is responsible for that. That's the law, let alone, you know, how to get in touch with them or make those connections. And so the center for international governance innovation where I'm working and the reset network where I know minister you're engaged. Yeah, I'm a narrow investment council member. That's right. They, they approached me and they said, you know, what I think about taking on this role to bring together public servants of all types. So, you know, civil servants, legislative staff, regulators from around the world who are all dealing with these issues and find ways to, to sort of harmonize our efforts essentially and to work together. So we launched in the summer and we've held a series of meetings basically once every month, talking about different issues. And we're trying to do something a little bit different. First of all, we're not multi-stakeholder. So we are just governments. The idea being, then you actually talk to people who you can kind of share ideas with and learn from and have sort of faced the same world. But also, and I think this is equally important. We're really trying to be global and not simply focus on existing relationships and traditional relationships. And so to talk to and hear voices from and learn from the global south from partners outside of the transatlantic alliance from all those kinds of places. And then to deal with, with the actual problems we're facing. So, for instance, we had an interesting session in the fall where we talked about how to talk to platforms that is everyone is dealing with digital platforms. But how do we actually speak to them in a way that they'll understand us and we can understand them. So it's, you know, those kinds of things and you'll see I've got one question in my list I sent you related to that. And so the session we're holding next week. This is what interview is about. One of one of our colleagues at a fellow at CG, as well as a noted researcher in Canada, Heidi Twerk had led a team looking at covert 19 responses communications responses around the world and looked at kind of what worked and what didn't. Why certain things worked and really tried to unpack and understand what we can learn from this experience that can then help guide our future work. And as part of this, she said to one of the countries as you may know that she looked at was Taiwan, and she and I were talking and we were kind of talking about what's a practical. Oh, yes. Sorry, Francis, we are recording. And we'll send you so I should have started I apologize. We're going to send you the raw recording from this afterwards so that you have the entire raw recording. And then we're also going to package this into the interview portion.  Anyway, perfect. So I can turn off my camera so it will leave. Yeah, okay, I'll turn it off right now. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Anyway, just to continue. So the goal really is to say, what can we learn about this experience in part to learn about how other countries can emulate some of the efforts that I want has made encountering the misinformation and disinformation around COVID-19. But I think equally importantly, it's to saying, what are the lessons we can learn about this experience that can inform our future efforts on in sort of the broad realm of strategic communications. And so this would be all of the different areas where we're trying to deal with disinformation, but from a government response perspective. And as, as you're, I'm sure, well aware, it's not a thing governments do for the most part incredibly well governments aren't amazing communicators. And so, you know, this is an area I think there's a lot of benefit from us, but I'm learning from listening and gaining experiences. Did you have any questions before we start or is there anything that wasn't clear about what we're up to. There's a technical question. So if I want to share something like this very cute, she by you know, did you prefer if I just hold it like this or do you prefer if I use the WebEx sharing function. Oh, that's a good question. Steve may turn to you. Good question.  I think and then if can you get a slight afterwards. You can send me afterwards and I can cover over it when I edit. Yeah, okay. So, so just making sure that the brightness and everything works. Well, you can see the green light, I guess. Okay, but this frame should be working ish. Yep. Okay, we're good. So I'll just good no glare or anything like that. Yeah, so I'll just do that and stay at the. I think that would be bottom right corner for you. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions or thoughts before we start. I think we can start and yes. Just a reminder just so we can make sure that there's no overlapping picture and video if minister if you can maybe just wait a moment after Chris asks his question before you respond just so we don't see him and hear you. And I can even. Mute while Chris speaks that help you. That would help, but I don't want to disrupt the flow because they're having some back and forth, but I'll be more concerned about. We might need to mute Chris if we hear any sound. Okay, well, okay, so I'll wait a couple of seconds before responding. That's fine. It's perfect. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. And yes, I was, I was joking with the team ahead of the meeting that I do get enthusiastic about some of this material. And so I really do have to restrain myself. So being muted and needing to unmute is probably not a terrible thing for me to make sure there is that break between us speaking. Okay, okay. Perfect. All right. Let's get lunch into the first question. Thank you. So, we're now more than a year since the start of the pandemic. And as we know, and as we've experienced. A lot of countries have recently gone back into lockdown or really in Canada for a lot of businesses. We've really never left lockdown. We're looking at almost a year in lockdown. You know, we've had some good news from the WHO. It looks like transmission rates are on a downward trend. But, you know, globally, the picture still looks very bleak death tolls and transmission rates are still enormously high. Really except in Taiwan. And I'm really interested to hear your perspective as you look back over the past year. What the key factors were that enabled you in Taiwan to manage the spread of the virus so well. And in addition to that, maybe as you're thinking about that, not simply initially which I think some countries sort of manage the first wave well, but in fact that you've kept that going you've kept that momentum over the course of the year. I think the most important reason is that in Taiwan, we've all had a collective societal inoculation. People above 30 years old remember how bad SARS was in 2003 in Taiwan. And right after SARS, while the memory was still fresh in the society, we institutionalized those memories into the Central Epidemic Command Center, the design of the Communicable Diseases Act, all the institutions that make sure that whenever SARS 2.0, which is how we refer to COVID-19 this time hits, we will be able to play the SARS playbook without, for example, declaring a state of emergency without, for example, lockdowns, because we understand how bad it could be in SARS 1.0. So people collectively would be willing to do more like wearing mask and washing hands and so on without the state having to do everything in a top down fashion, which frankly speaking does not last a very long time without people understanding the why of it. And the result of a CEC Central Epidemic Command Center is that anything that's related to the epidemiology whenever something gets discovered by the scientists like the asymptomatic transfer and things like that. It gets broadcasted to all corners of society very quickly, very easily, with this very helpful spoke stock, the Zhongchai, a very cute Shiba Inu, explaining not only the science behind it, the practical tips, like if you're outdoor, you're supposed to keep two Shiba Inus away from one another, or wear a mask that's called physical distancing, or if you're indoors, then there's three Shiba Inus away and so on. And so these messages go viral in the sense that people would voluntarily share it because it's very fun to begin with.  And this is hilarious because the Shiba Inu is really very cute in putting their feet to their mouth. And so people remember that and share that because this message ultimately appealed to rational self-interest. Instead of saying protect the elderly, respect others, respect the medical workers, which are all fine, but these messages don't tend to go viral whereas protecting yourself from your own unwashed hand tend to. So I'm just unmuting. Thank you very much. That's, you know, it's interesting. I really like that element of humor brought into it. I'm curious though, and if you don't mind pushing just a little bit on it. Sure, of course. I mean, I do recognize, you know, how much you learn from the SARS experience, but what I found interesting is that in a lot of, I mean, there were other countries that have also faced sort of those kinds of outbreaks, and it doesn't feel like their reactions were the same. You know, it sort of, it feels like there's something that Taiwan has done. And I think the breathing in that humor element is super important. And I also really took that, you know, that something I've read that you've talked about is that instant transmission, right, that something comes and you respond immediately. That is, it doesn't need to go through layers of bureaucracy or layers of thinking before it comes out. And I guess really that comes down to an element of trust, right, the trust that you have with the citizens, and then the trust that they have with government. And when you build that mutual trust, you know, it kind of can enable you to kind of carry that forward. I'm really curious around this question of trust and how you feel that Taiwan has created or sort of set the stage for that level of trust in government. Even when our network is talking to a number of different countries, trust is sort of an ephemeral thing that it can be very difficult for governments to rebuild one once it's lost. And it feels like in a short order, Taiwan has really kind of turned around its relationship with people. I don't know if you had any comments or thoughts about that. I tend to think of trust in terms of trustworthiness. And one part of trustworthiness is reciprocal. So before the citizen could trust the government, the government must first trust the citizens. And if the government trusts its citizens, it means that, for example, we're willing to publish the real time mask availability as open API. That's real time open data. So instead of having to review the statistics and publish every quarter or every week, we publish every 30 seconds. Each pharmacies, like 6000 pharmacies, the people queuing in line swiping their national health card can see that the real time availability on their phone actually goes down by two at a time a year ago. Nowadays, it's by 10 every time. And then people queuing in line if they detect any anomaly, they can just call the toll free number 1922 and very quickly point out the problem with the system. And so because of that, this participatory accountability, anyone who think that the government is not trustworthy in some regard immediately become a co creator by calling 1922 and pointing out something that we did wrong. And instead of defending existing policy, our Minister Chen Shizhong, the commander of the CCC usually just says, teach us. So it's an invitation to co creation. When a young boy called last April to 1922 saying, you're reaching on mask, all my classmates have this navy blue medical grade mask, but all I get is pink ones. I don't want to wear pink to school. I'm a boy. Then on the very next day in the daily 2pm live stream press conference, all the medical offices regardless of gender war pink medical masks. And the commander even said that pink pattern was this childhood idol or something. So the boy become the most hip boy in the class for he is the only one in the class that has the color that the heroes and heroes heroes where and so this kind of immediate response is not about a blind trust to the government authority, but about the government trusting its citizens and amplifying the social innovations, the co creations and so on, you know, very rapid iteration cycle and I will argue that builds trustworthiness over time. Thank you very much. That's brilliant. And you know, it's, it's, it's a really striking feature of when when reading about what you've done is, is this sort of the co creation element. But I really like that it's sort of it turns around that criticism on its head right because criticism is no longer a negative criticism just becomes a positive in terms of contributing to and helping society move it forward. Do you feel and I wonder if you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about for just for people who aren't aware the V Taiwan that sort of platform that you've built because you know it feels in a way that in addition to your preparation because of the preparations you've done with with sort of the the hacker community or kind of being prepared for the civic engagement also contributed equally to your ability to respond to the to the virus. Certainly. So, V Taiwan is a project done by the gov zero or G zero V civic hacker community. And let me do this again. V Taiwan is a project of the G zero V or gov zero community in Taiwan, which is a civic technologist community that contributes into participatory democracy online. And the idea of V Taiwan is that instead of having just a handful of representatives talking about an emergent phenomena like Uber, or about crowdfunding or about teleworking or things like that. These emergent phenomenon stakeholders can actually represent themselves rather than having someone represent them and using AI that's assistive intelligence. We can make sure that people's common feelings common values are given to air of the agenda setting power, instead of just the polarized divisive zero some toxic behaviors that sometimes we see private infrastructure so called social but actually anti social media. And so this pro social media, if you will, for deliberative democracy is really helpful in framing the conversation around, for example, sharing economy in 2015. Instead of debating endlessly about whether not carpooling is sharing economy, but time sharing is sharing economy what really is sharing economy should they be called platform or gig economy instead. And that leads us practically nowhere right we instead of talk about what is considered the norm when people drive around random strangers and charging them for it. And people understand that hey we can agree that insurance registration, making sure that the road is fairly used that people do not undercut each other in like unfair competition and things like that. These are things that people commonly care about regardless of whether they're a taxi driver or a Uber driver. So nowadays, Uber is a Taiwanese taxi company actually the Q taxi. But we also revamped the taxi law so that those so called multi purpose taxis can use a software meter and they don't have to paint their car yellow and things like that. So everyone wins and we have many co-ops and companies entering this multi purpose taxi. And so this very small picnic tells us that for each emerging female nominal, we can use AI and online conversation in a way that's actually pro democracy as long as we see democracy as a type of technology that we're willing to change and hack ourselves. Thank you so much. You know, and I mean, I just say I find that both the example and and you're you're retelling of it really inspiring. You know, it's funny. It's one of those areas we had that we had a similar set of conversations here in Canada around Uber and taxis, but somehow in these conversations we never we didn't create that space for people to actually be able to share their feelings and to sort of understand every side. And I think that that open space just feels like exactly what what the, the technology should be used for right it sort of in effect. It was a really interesting thing, you know, sort of reading about your work and sort of following what what's been happening in Taiwan. A lot of the time in the work that I've been been undertaking both in the Canadian government and now with the global platform governance network. When governments in civil society get together and we talk about the role of big tech and society we talk about the role the technology plays. There's a tendency for the conversation or for the discussion to end up focusing primarily in the challenges brought about by big tech. I mean, I think there is still this kind of, you know, we recognize the positives. I mean, the very fact that we can have this conversation and we can include people from around the world is an incredible benefit to, to, you know, to us as we try and solve problems communally and together. But it really struck me and hearing you speak now. How positive you are about the role of society and how positive the role that tech can play in society's challenges. I'm interested to hear your thoughts, because I mean, I think this is something it almost harkens back in a way to the kind of where we thought the internet was going to be. You know, in this kind of way that we'd be problem solving and community community actions and community activities. How do you think other governments can kind of recapture that spirit of tech, tech optimism that what we've lost and really what's the key from your point of view. I think the key is to think of them as digital public infrastructure, much as we have town halls and parks and public libraries and other public infrastructures where the civil society can gather and public deliberations taking place. As long as we have sufficient amount of these investments into public infrastructure. For example, the detail and conversation took place on Polish, which is free software. And as you can see, it doesn't even have a reply button. You can agree and disagree on my idea about passenger liability insurance are very important, but you can't really attack me or throw me. And if you agree, you move closer toward me. If you disagree, you move farther away from me. And after three or four weeks of conversation, and this is maybe the most important picture that police can show you is that the divisive ideological things are like exactly maybe five. And there's far more consensus statements that people's feeling that are shared regardless of their ideological positions. And there's a surprisingly large amount of coherence in people's common feelings that are just not amplified when you're deliberating on a private infrastructure, optimized for addiction and optimized for short term attention span and selling of advertisements. So this is akin to holding a public deliberation, not on a public park, but rather on a nightlife district, a bar with bouncers and selling addictive drinks. And I don't think the deliberative quality will be very good, right? So I think the whole idea of public infrastructure, which we grasp intuitively when it's a physical infrastructure, we need to lift it to the digital infrastructure and do what I call the people public-private partnerships, in which the people that's the social sector sets the agenda, co-governs the infrastructure. The public sector, the career public service, endorse the use, the binding power, only to those infrastructure that are publicly co-governed using free software and open governance. And finally, the economic sector participates in helping to scale this out, to scale this up, but always under the norms that are already set by the people and the public sectors. Thank you.  I think you hit on such a key feature of this in the last, your last statement and I really, I love that, that kind of conception of people public-private partnership, you know, sort of putting the people first. And that's really not, you know, where I've seen conversations around the digital infrastructure that it should be public infrastructure. Very often it ends up being with sort of government saying, well, we should build another internet or we should build another website and then force people to use it. And sort of, it feels like that's really a non-starter. That's not going to achieve what we want to achieve. But as you say, having something designed by people then used based on free infrastructure really seems to be quite exciting. And I also really liked, I don't know if you had more to add, but I really liked how we avoid the trolling, because I think, you know, that's become, and I think you're right that, you know, so much of that is based around we're using for-profit infrastructure that's more akin to like a nightclub than a public park, that is in fact driving divisiveness rather than driving consensus. But I mean, I think that's a really quite exciting way to turn it around. You know, it ties in actually something we talked about in one of our conversations in the fall in the network. We were talking with a few of our colleagues in government and in research about how do we, as I said, how do we talk to platforms differently? How do we engage differently? And where do the challenges lie? And one of the things that one of our colleagues Rebecca Trumbull from George Washington University recommended, she said, you need to have more data scientists and government. So you need to have more people who understand how this works. And you need fewer sort of people who can be sort of hoodwinked by the digital platforms and sort of taken into their way of looking at the world. And instead have people who can actually explain, this is how things work. And then they need to talk to the data scientists and the engineers within the platforms. And you know, that's how you're going to find a different set of solutions. But when I listen to your, this idea of a people, public, private partnership. And for some of the things of yours that I've read, it almost feels like, I wonder if you would say that we should almost flip that around that rather than having the data scientists and government. What we actually need to do is open up more government to data scientists. I mean, more, you know, sort of, let's not let's not try and recreate their part of things but actually let's have the community experts or the community engage and do their part of the government do its part to amplifier or support or populate with data. Totally. In Taiwan, the open API directive says that whenever we collect any data that is not, of course, pertaining to national secret or privacy issues, anything that is clear of these issues, we need to publish it as soon as it's collected. This is actually quite radical because around the world under the freedom of information acts, it's usually first by request and also always reviewed first by the career public servants before anything goes from the state to the people. But by saying that this is open API, there's no way that a public servant can review and approve the publication of the medical mask availability data every 30 seconds they wouldn't be able to do anything else then. Right. So we need to instead build a data pipeline that is very good on the server security from that is very good on the privacy preserving from and so on, and just keep the data pipeline running. And once you have that data pipeline, then you get, for example, in Taiwan, we have a legislator before joining the parliament. She was the VP of data analytics at Foxconn. So she knows something about data science and P go home and and she analyzed along with the open treatment community, the map of the mask availability and concluded that even though it looks fair on the kind of satellite GPS map. It's actually unfair if you take into account the time is spent on public transportation in rural places. So if people take like four hours to go to a pharmacy in a pharmacy closed, even though it looks on the map that is actually very close. It's not actually very close. So the government distribution algorithm is actually biased while it actually looks fair initially. And when she brought it up in a parliamentary interpolation because it's evidence based. The minister simply said legislator teaches the minister doesn't have to defend any policy because it's obviously something very good insight. And the very next day, we started preordering into 24 hour convenience stores. We redistributed our supply and demand algorithm in conjunction with the open street map community and things like that. And so, yeah, exactly as you said, then a data scientist as a legislator or as a social sector participant has as much as agenda setting power as minister. And MP simply said the very next day that yesterday's interpolation become tomorrow's creation. Wow. You know, in previous work, I've worked a little on the open governments issues and was involved with some of the open government work here in Canada and in other places and I mean that that just sounds like a dream for some of my colleagues to sort of hear that. And it's really interesting because I mean I think you're absolutely right that the freedom of information by request is the norm, but even more from having sat on that side of the desk and government. And the tendency is to try and release as little as possible, or else to flood with so much information is to make it unusable, rather than to kind of think it just as you said is, how do we actually solve problems together. And then how do we give the, the, the particular the information that's that's going to be needed. And I think that that solution of having it be open API is exactly the way to go forward. You know, and it does open up a question for me. So one of the things we wanted to talk about is to think about, how do we take the lessons that you've learned through this experience and through the other experiences you've had, and then apply them in the in the question is sort of that both foreign state interference and disinformation, and sort of for some of our other network members disinformation campaigns by extremists or others and kind of learn from these examples. And you know, one of the conversations that happens a lot and I'm sure you've been privy to this, these kinds of sessions is, is that there are some people who argue that the antidote to disinformation is more and better information. But it doesn't sound like that's, that's, that's all that you've got into one that they can mean that that kind of the rapid response the humor you've got some other sort of pieces in there. What would you say are the key building blocks that governments need to put in place to sort of help build that societal resilience, just as you talked about the community inoculation against the fake manipulated menu misleading information. Is there anything more you what you can add on that. Certainly, in Taiwan we make a distinction between disinformation, which is intentional and misinformation, which may not be. And against this information is not just humor over rumor, because there is, is almost like in a cybersecurity since there's a red team operating. One case in point is that in the mayoral election and referenda of 2018, we've seen a lot of money poured in to say Facebook and other social media platforms to do hyper targeted precision targeted messaging that are not in fact wrong, but actually more like mal information in that it insights a certain. Let me do this. Certainly, so one part is a clear distinction between this information, which is intentional and misinformation, which may not be. While misinformation can be countered quite successfully using Q spoke stocks and humor over rumor and things like that. This information when it's intentional and backed by a lot of money, sometimes by foreign states, that's not as easy to counter using humor. One case in point is that in the 2018 local election, we actually saw a lot of money poured into say Facebook and other social media was precision targeted advertisement that are opaque. And that could not be attributed back to who gave the money, compare that with the campaign donation and expense, which must be filed to the National Auditing Office, and is always restricted to domestic donors only. So it's almost like through those social media platforms, they found a way to bypass the democratic oversight of campaign donation and expenditure. Now, interestingly, the solution did not originally came from the government, it came from again, the go zero community. There's a project that asked the volunteer to go to the National Auditing Office, because at the time they were already publishing the expenditure and donation information but only on paper. So they took out the paper, scanned the paper, did this OCR and computer vision, but OCR is called otaku character vision recognition, because people see like a capture each single self of these large spreadsheets and compete with each other and quickly turning these into digital versions. And so this almost like civil disobedience of the past elections really put a lot of pressure on the National Auditing Office because the office may say, hey, you're not absolutely sure that these crowd OCR diversion is the correct one. And the civil society can simply say so that's why you should publish this open data. Right. And so finally the legislature is not light and as the National Auditing Office to publish as open data so investigative journalists can do the analysis, which they did for the first time in 2018. And lo and behold, people see that almost nobody filed the social media advertisements as campaign donation or expenditure. So it's clearly a bypass. So we turn around and talk to Facebook and friends saying, look, this is the social norm. This is not like we're passing a law or something against you, but people have already put a lot of pressure on the National Auditing Office. And now they're turning this attention to you. So it's like a trade negotiation right we can talk to Facebook saying, so this is not a state request. This is rather a analysis of the societal temperature. And if they do not publish at least to the same kind of open data in real time, their advertisement library when it pertains to political social issues for independent analysis and calling out dark patterns on the next election. They may fall social sanction and this force of social sanction is not initiated by the state, but rather by the people. And that's why Facebook in 2019 made one, I think the first jurisdiction where they published the entire advertisement library under open data, actually as an open API, so that by our presidential election, there's no such dark patterns that happen on Facebook and so on. So that's a successful negotiation. That's incredible. And I mean, as you say it's very different experience that I think other countries have had in dealing with the social media companies, but it sounds like as part of it just as you've said it's what it's driven from the community and it's driven from that, that community based conversation it's less about governments coming in and saying, we're going to restrict what you do we're going to drive you towards a certain end it's more just let's engage and let's come up with a common set of solutions. You know, it was it was it was difficult coming into this and sort of looking at areas where things had not gone well. You know, it just, it really feels like looking at not just the pandemic but a lot of these other challenges the Uber example others that you know things are going on a really good track in Taiwan in these areas. But you know, as we're looking at our government as we're thinking about these things. And one of the things that that I think we sort of realize is governments, they tend to be afraid to take risks. There's a huge avoidance factor that comes in and so there can be a real fear about trying new things. One of the challenges that that I've experienced in the space is at the same time as we're afraid to do the new things we learn the most when things don't go well. I mean it's it's those failures that actually teach us right that's that's kind of those experiences. Well, just to fly by there's been a ton of talk about your success in the public response to coven and of course in these other areas as well. Are there other areas where you think some of your experiments didn't work and how do I mean I have a little bit of a sense in that kind of the way that when somebody comes into the criticism it just sort of builds it into the solution. Is that it's a constant iterative development and so there are no failures in that kind of sense, like you're sort of constantly failing is that is that. Yeah, definitely. So, so I'll go back to the mask rationing map example, because internationally it's been reported as a huge success but it's actually a huge failure on the first day of launch on February 6 in 2020 when the mask availability map was first produced in the pharmacy version that is a lot of pharmacists concurrently invented something new, the take a number system. So, this social innovation is basically instead of handing out the medical mask in return of swiping their national health car for the customers, they instead took the healthcare cards from the customers and asking them to go back and. They process the IC card in the pharmacy during the lunch break and as a customer to return, for example, 7pm or something and collect the mask and their IC card in exchange to the numbered cart that they gave us right so all this pharmacist social innovations actually are at odds with the mask availability map, because if you analyze it like if you're a x Foxconn. Analytic person, you will see that this particular pharmacy didn't sell anything until noon, and in the noon, like in a very short time someone like 10 minutes, they sell everything on their stock and and this kind of real time API is actually misleading, not useful at all. And so one of my nearby pharmacies even go to the length of putting very large banners posters on their front door on the glass window saying don't trust the app exclamation mark. And so that of course is spectacular failure, but the way that the cece recover from these failures is simply saying, so we didn't anticipate it. And we're running a weekly iteration we're using agile development. So by the next spring's delivery that's next Thursday, it's always next Thursday. Anyone who come up with ways to fix it, we will implement that fix. And so a pharmacist said, Okay, why don't you publish your open API to different times lots instead of one one for collecting the cards and one for collecting the mask. Why not. Right. So the pharmacy that use this take a number system can just register like seven to nine a.m. and seven to nine p.m. in two times loss so we did that the very next week, but the nearby pharmacy still didn't take that poster down. And so I took a deep breath.  So there's still one whole hour where they're on the map, but the number were inaccurate. And so I'm like, okay, so if you are the additional minister what would you do that's the favorite question I would ask people and they consulted their pharmacy group and the very next day told me that if they use the back end system to input that they have sewed a lot of mask more than their stock, then they get into negative availability. And that made them disappear from the map. So it's a hack, almost like a white hat hacker thing, because we didn't check for the signs in the integral field. But that's a workaround and that enabled them to took down the banners. So I went back, talked to the National Health Insurance Agency about this innovation, and they formalize it and invented a button that any pharmacy can just push it and disappear from the map like the cloaking device. So that's after more than three weeks, more than three spare strings. And so I think the most important thing here is that each failure can be turned into an opportunity to co creation. But if we say we'll fix it but actually fix it only like one month or two later, then people don't have that kind of patience. It really has to have a really short iteration cycle like one week or at most two weeks for this kind of co creation to work. Wow, that's, that's amazing. And, and, you know, it's, it really makes me think earlier this year, we had a conversation about how to maintain horizontal efforts, given sort of, you know, traditional vertical accountability structures and government right is that, you know, so often in a government where you have an analyst reporting to a manager reporting to director, it sort of goes up to a minister and then down. And it can be very difficult to kind of work cross purposes and yet what you're talking about or what you're describing is the perfect example of how working across those areas of bringing in the public of thinking all the sort of different roles, and each time there's a mistake kind of or a problem or a challenge, learning and fixing it. If you don't mind me asking, as the minister is sort of coming at this in this sort of on this cross cutting perspective. Do you find there's a challenge. I mean, how does how does one get past that challenge of this sort of vertical account abilities and the responsibilities of, you know, sort of people saying but I have to report to this person I have to work on this issue. Certainly, I think the diversity and inclusive culture is the most important. My team, the public digital innovation space is around 20 people, more than half of them career public service, and we very intentionally only allow one secondment from each ministry. So the more than 12 ministries that have since the common to my office understand that they cannot send to people at the same time they have to rotate. And the reason is that we want a fresh perspective. Every time a new person come to our team, everybody can learn from them because they are the only one with that particular perspective. Because you have such a cross cutting, maximally horizontal diverse team, then people are willing to share what they have launched with the community with like working out loud as a center. Ethos, because there's no like subordinates in any particular sense because everyone is belonging to every different ministry right. So no matter what their ranks are people work as peers in my team, but they of course do report to their own minister. They still take whatever they learned from the Peters back to their ministry and stay themselves go back to the ministry after a year or two. Right. And then someone else rotates in and the trick here is that by working out loud this culture, even after they go back to their ministry is still permeating almost by osmosis to their ministry about how horizontal structures instead of fighting vertical structures actually reinforces like a bridge that connects those vertical pillars reinforces the idea of resilience. Whenever any particular pillar makes a mistake that may actually offer a very good learning opportunity for the other pillars in the same office that's the same idea of biodiversity by the way. And so because of that, we have collaboratively culture that's willing to take risk, because what's risky for one pit is member is actually not risky for other penis members, and that's sort of HR policy I think is also very important. Thank you so much. It's a brilliant answer and in fact it's, it's exciting to see how you're hacking government essentially by you know rather than trying to deal with how do you deal with their vertical structures and your horizontal structure. It's more like encouraging them to see the benefit of horizontal by passing out the seeds of your of your efforts into the back into the into the sort of that larger the larger biosphere of the government of the government work. This has been so wonderful of you and I really appreciate all of your time. Did you have any final thoughts or questions you want to share with with us as we wrap up. There's certainly no need to I just, I, if there's anything else on your on your mind that you wanted to share I'd love to love to hear from it. Certainly, since the theme today seems to be turning mistakes into co creation opportunities. I'll just conclude by quoting my favorite poet singer songwriter Canadian. And in the verse answer that said, ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. There is a crack, a crack in everything. And that's how the light gets in. So live long and prosper. Thank you so much. Wonderful, wonderful to meet you. Fantastic day. Yeah, really, really good interview. And I look forward to receive the recording. Thank you. I'll see you soon. Bye bye.


So if you've been tuning into MSNBC lately, which you absolutely should not do, you'd see that they are absolutely distraught with the prospect of Bernie Sanders becoming the Democratic Party's nominee and they're hoping that if Pete would a judge in Amy Klobuchar fall through that Mike Bloomberg will be there to save the Democratic Party from the threat that is Bernie Sanders because God forbid we get someone in office who cares about the people and Wants to give everyone health care and save the planet can't have that so they think that the savior of democracy is The guy who's trying to ruin democracy by buying his way into the White House That's what we're dealing with now but what's interesting is that Donald Trump showed that he is a more sophisticated when it comes to political strategy than the pundits at MSNBC like this is stunning to me Trump Knows more he has his finger on the pulse of America more so than the people who are supposed to know the country the best So he was talking about Bloomberg and Bernie Sanders and he discussed who he'd prefer to run against and obviously he said he'd rather run against Bloomberg because He can beat him frankly I'd rather run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders Because Sanders has real followers whether you like them or not whether you agree with them or not I happen to think it's terrible what he says what he has followers Bloomberg's just buying his way in guess what Donald Trump is right Don't say that very often, but he's right here Bloomberg doesn't have real support. He is buying his way. He bought his way into third place Not by convincing people that he has the best agenda But by running ads and flooding these networks with ads and by basically buying complicity Because if you're spending hundreds of million of millions of dollars on ads at MSNBC CNN Do you honestly think that those pundits those television hosts will feel inclined to critique Mike Bloomberg? If they do it's gonna be tapently, but they're not really going to be rigorous in their scrutiny So there's no support there he's not convincing people ask anyone what policies Mike Bloomberg supports Don't know what he supports But I do know that he's the guy that implemented stop-and-frisk Which was a racist policy and we now know that it wasn't just an unintended Consequence that black and brown people were racially profiled. That was the goal. He said it on tape But Bernie Sanders has spent years now building up this massive grassroots coalition It's now the most diverse. It's now the most enthusiastic. It has the youngest by far So if I'm Donald Trump and I'm self-interested and I want to get reelected I would be an idiot to think that I'd have a better shot at beating Bernie than someone like Bloomberg Like what people in the Democratic Party and pundits don't realize is that if you are giving voters the option of Republican and Republican light Why on earth were they opt for the Republican light when they could just have the real thing? Like do you think that the Democratic Party is going to be energized to come out and vote for a Republican or a Republican? I mean Mike Bloomberg is a Republican When it comes to ideology Functionally, he's a Republican. He just endorsed George W. Bush in 2004 after he invaded Iraq So do you think voters are going to lift a finger to help get Bloomberg elected because we have to defeat Donald Trump?  Do you think he's getting my vote?  I don't care if it's this show I don't care if it's another show like there has to be some type of alternative Non-corporate entity that talks about politics in an objective way and look we all have our biases, right? Nobody's perfect. We all speak from a very subjective perspective But at least there's no corporate control like I don't have to worry that if I criticize Mike Bloomberg I'm not gonna get hired at Bloomberg in the future or he's not gonna advertise on the humanist report Doesn't work that way, right? I have my biases. I support Bernie Sanders.  We don't know where they stand They try to pretend like they're neutral, but they're not neutral. They're not even objective They're clowns and they can't even realize what Donald Trump realizes So I mean this should be obvious to everyone Trump of course would prefer to run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders But I mean if you told anyone that in mainstream media on MSNBC, they wouldn't believe you You could support the humanist report at patreon.com Slashed humanist report, but trust me I'd have way more supporters at patreon if that was my podcast sad


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Mainstream medicine has long had a healthy skepticism of dietary supplements extending to the present day. Enough is enough. But this commentary in the Archives of Internal Medicine argued we may have gone too far as evidenced by our uncritical acceptance of supposed toxicities, the surprisingly angry, scornful tone found in medical texts with words like careless, useless, indefensible, wasteful, and insidious, as well as ignoring evidence of possible benefit. To illustrate the uncritical acceptance of bad news about supplements, they discussed the well-known concept that high dose of vitamin C can cause kidney stones. But just because something is well known in medicine doesn't mean it's necessarily true. They couldn't find a single reported case. We've known that vitamin C is turned into oxalates in the body, and if the level of oxalates in the urine gets too high, kidney stones can form. But even at 4,000 milligrams of vitamin C a day, that's like a couple gallons of orange juice worth, urinary oxalates may not get very high, but there may be rare individuals that have increased capacity for this conversion into oxalates, and so a theoretical risk of kidney stones with high dose of vitamin C supplements was raised in a letter printed in a medical journal back in 1973. OK, but when it's talked about in the medical literature, it makes it sound like it's an established phenomenon. Here's a reference to seven citations supposedly suggesting an association between excessive vitamin C intake and the formation of oxalate kidney stones. Let's look at these cited sources. OK, there's the letter about the theoretical risk. That's legit. But this other citation has nothing to do with either vitamin C or kidney stones, and the other five citations are just references to books, which can sometimes be OK if books cite primary research themselves. But instead there's like this circular logic where the books just cite other books that like cite that theoretical risk letter again, so it looks like there's a lot of evidence, but they're all just expressing this opinion with no new data. Now by that time there were actually studies that followed populations of people taking vitamin C supplements and found no increased kidney stone risk among men. Then later women, same thing. So you can understand this author's frustration that vitamin C supplements appear to be unfairly villainized. The irony is that now we know that vitamin C supplements do indeed appear to increase kidney stone risk. This population of men was followed further out, and men taking vitamin C supplements did indeed end up with higher risk. Confirmed now in a second study, though also of men, we don't know if women are similarly at risk, though there's now also been a case reported of a child also running into problems. What does doubling of risk mean exactly in this context? That means those taking like a thousand milligrams a day of vitamin C may have a 1 in 300 chance of getting a kidney stone every year instead of a 1 in 600 chance, which is not an insignificant risk, 1 in 300. Kidney stones can be really painful, so they conclude that, look, since there's no benefits and some risk, better to stay away. But there are benefits. Taking vitamin C just when you get a cold doesn't seem to help, and regular supplement users don't seem to get fewer colds, but when they do get sick, they don't get as sick and get better about 10% faster. And those under extreme physical stress may cut their cold risk in half. So it's really up to each individual to balance the potential common cold benefit with a potential kidney stone risk.


Pat Ryan from Newcore Rare Battles. I don't really know where to start between your news flow and actually your news coverage. So why don't we for fun start with your news coverage. You were in a very well read story by Reuters recently. Can you talk to us about that? Yeah, certainly, Reuters contacted us probably a couple of months ago Tracy and they were doing a piece on Western mid-market separation that was needed and who had technology out there that really had an opportunity to get to the finish line. And they'd heard a lot about our rapid sex tech technology, our column-based tech. They really liked what they heard and they actually came to Alexander, Louisiana. I think if you noted the article it had a headline that said Alexander, Louisiana. That's actually where the writing stemmed from. The whole purpose of the article was to say, OK, we need this Western world mid-market separation. Who are the innovators out there that are really trying to move forward and get the job done? And you core was certainly one that they centered on. And we got a lot of highlight time in the article. There were a couple other technologies mentioned that were nanotech used to program proteins. There was a comment about re-tech in Scandinavia and what they're doing over in Scandinavia. One or two others that they touched on. But really I kind of applauded Reuters for understanding that that mid-market is certainly the key and that's what's needed to continue to build a supply chain in North America, which really parallels what the DOE is looking at as well. The DOE realizes that this mid-market is crucial. So yeah, good on them. They came to Louisiana. They had a look. They understood they were up to. They made a couple of interesting points about, you know, let the miners be the miners and let the technically difficult separators be the technically difficult separators. And they applauded you core for its work in that area. As you know, we have a resource in Southeast Alaska, the bulk and resource. But we've kind of put that on the back burner and moving along at a slow pace because we realized that quick to revenue and first mover in this this market of separation is key and Reuters likes that business model going forward. So good on them for centering on you core in that article. And of course, there's more than Reuters centering on you core. We have breaking news this morning with the Louisiana governor, obviously is applauding what you're up to and that they they are executing you course, SMC, industrial tax exemption contract. Let's talk about that, please. Yeah, those came out this morning, you know, we have through Louisiana economic development part of the state of Louisiana. There's a 15 million dollar incentive package. And the governor had to sign off on the tax incentive portion of it, which he did just recently, it was the last 10 days or so. And also the release to we've noted a couple of contractors now that we've brought on board that are Louisiana centric, but they're they're kind of global and North American in nature. One is orbital engineering, orbital engineering or the Pittsburgh. They build big energy plants, infrastructure, projects, a really good engineering team, but they have an office in New Orleans. So they've now joined the Eucor team to be able to take our commercial demo that we're working with in Kingston and actually deploy it in Louisiana. They've joined the MECCAM team. The MECCAM team are working on the process flow sheets, orbital work on the production engineering. We've also added Radcliffe construction. Radcliffe construction is in central Louisiana. They do a lot of work on the Gulf Coast. They have great, you know, electrical contractors, piping contractors and given the nature of what we're building in Louisiana, those those disciplines of piping and pumps and and PLCs, electrical systems, Radcliffe or top notch and all of those groups, along with the England Authority, the England Authority is a political arm under the Louisiana government that's that's actually controlling the building that Eucor is moving into in Alexander, Louisiana, along with Louisiana Central. They came to Kingston just last week, so the contracting companies, the engineering companies, the government people, they all arrived in Kingston because they wanted to see the commercial demo plant firsthand. Very impressive what they saw and really what we're trying to show them is this is what we're copying and pasting copy and paste this. This is what we're putting in Louisiana. So a very Louisiana theme for a couple of reasons. But one in particular is that they were looking for further support from the US government, looking for further support from the state of Louisiana. And we've got contractors, engineering firms and local authorities. Pretty excited about what's going on. Well, I would like to personally congratulate both Eucor and Louisiana Governor John Bell Edwards on executing this contract for the benefit job creation and development for Louisiana, a huge Louisiana fan. It's my understanding this is expected to create at least 100 family wage paying jobs. Can you talk to us a little bit more about how this is anticipated to have a very positive impact on the local and state economy? Yeah, absolutely. You know, Alexandria, what's in the center of the state when we did our due diligence and ended up in Louisiana, we did it for a couple of reasons. Well, one in particular was the economic profile in that area. There are good technical universities. There's a good workforce. That workforce has typically been used to the oil and gas where they have to sporadically go offshore to work, you know, in the in the Gulf, and it's not reliable work. And what Alexander would like to do and what Louisiana would like to do specifically is become more involved with the energy transition that we're involved with here in the 21st century. They've got a couple of battery opportunities that have taken hold in Louisiana. So they see this this rare growth processing opportunity is another part of that plan going forward of creating stable jobs that allow people to, you know, good, good paying family jobs.  That's at a five thousand ton per annum a plant. And again, Louisiana doing all the right stuff to make sure they're part of this energy transition. So yeah, good, good on them and good on the governor. I also really am enjoying following you, Core, because I want to point out one more thing that I would love for you to comment, and that's the duality of both the U.S. and Canadian government being supporters of you, Core, you're kind of like the perfect example of, you know, how North American leadership. Can you give us an update on how you have support from both the U.S. and Canadian government? Yeah, yeah, certainly the, you know, the DOD stepped up a few months ago with a program to allow us to commercially run thousands of hours on our plant in Kingston. You know, think about that's the U.S. government saying, here's a funding package to run thousands of hours when you plant in Kingston, Ontario, because we'd like to see that technology then deployed in Louisiana. And so the DOD under the IBAS, which is the Industrial Base Analysis and Sustainability Division, you know, they were they were instrumental in making that happen. On the Canadian government side, they too looked at what the U.S. was doing. They saw the heavy-weather program and said, we too want to be part of this.  So the people with the government stepped up to a four point three million dollar program to run commercial hours using light feedstock and again, thousands of hours to continue to gather metric data. So we can plug it to Louisiana. The Canadian wish list is that SMC, strategic expenses complex number two, would be back in Canada. For now, they realize number one is in Louisiana. They want to help make sure the commercial fortitude of what we're doing is in place. So, yeah, Canada, U.S. working together and not easy not easy contracts. Now, they don't just write checks and say, here you go. Good luck. A lot of due diligence that went in both on the U.S. side and the Canadian side to say, you know what, this technology you have, this is what we need to Westernize, to innovate, make sure we're able to go ahead and deploy effectively in North America. So two governments, understanding the importance, understanding the tech that we have and getting behind it. Commercial run many hours, longer term, let's get behind it even further. As you're heading into the holidays, Pat, you've been working around the clock. So we really appreciate you even fitting us into your schedule here with this exceptional update. What should we as shareholders anticipate in the upcoming quarter, please? Well, you'll see more data and commercial metrics coming out of the plant in Kingston. You know, part of that plant, as you know, is to run qualified product, qualified product to purities that can be used in a supply chain that includes metal alloy making and eventually two people like automotive companies, wind energy companies, and we're in discussions with several companies on an offtake side. So product to spec, hopefully the finalization of our first offtake arrangement. And we're looking at several right now when we're in discussions with automotive, we're in discussions with consumer electronics, wind energy, and national defense companies. So everyone looking at what we're doing, we're trying to make that happen effectively for our shareholders. And then Louisiana, they continue to build out. Now that we've got a very strong team with Orbital, MechChem, Ratcliffe, look for further development plans of that plant in Louisiana, taking form, taking shape as we run to be a first mover in this market that needs first moving companies that can get jobs done. So yeah, all of that is part of our Q1 news flow in 2024. And for those of you that might be new to U-Core, I encourage you to go to the U-Core website to take a read through the bios of this management and board of directors. And on that note, Pat, thank you so much for your time. I wish you a wonderful holiday. You as well. Thanks Tracy.


Alrighty, five days to go. This is absolutely insane. We are getting so close. And today's video I'm really excited about. I don't know if everyone's gonna be super excited about it, but I am. I love talking about the future and what it holds and just business in terms of Canada's Wonderland. And this is that video. Nonetheless, what is going to happen with Canada's Wonderland due to the success of events like Winterfest at Canada's Wonderland and also things like global warming? Many of you can notice right now that the weather is getting extremely hot in the summer. And while they're open during Winterfest, it's extremely cold. And what are people looking to do? They're looking to move indoors, escape, get some air conditioning, get some heating in the winter, have more attractions open in the winter. So what does that mean for Canada's Wonderland? It means more indoor things. It is so obvious that Canada's Wonderland is going to start building indoor attractions. They're gonna start building indoor seating like restaurants. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a Faust House coming to Canada's Wonderland very shortly. It just makes sense. So in today's video, I'm just gonna quickly go over what I could possibly see coming to Canada's Wonderland based off of this. And just like, wow, talking about the huge success that Canada's Wonderland had with Winterfest and what that means and what we can expect. So with Winterfest being such a huge success at Canada's Wonderland, it is no brainer that it's going to expand. In season two that we see at every single Winterfest that have already progressed to season three in the Cedar Fair chain, we're gonna see a parade. You already see that new white tent in the parking lot back near Behemoth Helix, and that is most likely a parade tent. There's gonna be a parade floats. They're probably gonna have a parade, and it can be multi-used so they can have parades in the summer. Does it make sense to have it in the summer? I don't really see how they could do it with the crowds that they get, but I mean, Winterfest is just as busy. So we know that there's gonna be a parade coming to Canada's Wonderland for Winterfest. We know that there's gonna be a Faust House probably added in the coming years, if not in 2022 due to Winterfest. You're gonna see a lot of these additions that have maybe been postponed a couple of years moved up due to the success of Winterfest. You're gonna see a Faust House.  It just makes sense. You're gonna see a lot more rides experiment as well. We were hearing rumblings almost a year and a half go now near the end of Winterfest in 2019 that Flight Deck might be getting ready to start practicing for Winterfest. Now, I don't know if I necessarily believe that rumor, but we were hearing that Flight Deck was becoming an option and that Winterfest was going to expand outside of that current area that you saw in the park map. So what are my predictions for 2021? I'm not quite sure. The reservation system isn't doing so hot this year in terms of Canadians rushing to get back into Canada's Wonderland. Now, based off of my DMs, there are a lot of Canadians and Ontarians that don't know how to book a reservation and who are also expecting that they can just show up at the park. So I think once things start to become a little more known, the reservation system will take off. But at this current moment, it's looking like Canada's Wonderland isn't the hot ticket item for Ontarians and Canadians. I think a lot of people are actually heading across the border waiting for that, which is crazy. I mean, I know I am, I know a lot of my friends are. So I guess that might be what everyone's really looking forward to is spending any money they saved on a vacation. But I still expect Canada's Wonderland to do well, especially when restrictions are lifted. It is, again, a huge attraction and it's always done well. It's just this year, I was expecting a little better in terms of not being able to find a reservation. But I guess that works in my favor, being able to find a reservation. But nonetheless, I want to hear from you guys. What do you think Canada's Wonderland could add or would add to help with people trying to escape the cold and escape the heat in the summer? And where do you think they might be located? I know one thing for sure coming in 2022 and where it's located. But you guys will learn that on July 5th. And I can't wait to discuss it because I've been dying for this to come to Canada's Wonderland and I'm just super excited about it. But yeah, again, I wanted to go over just a cute little fun video for my countdown, what I expect to happen to Canada's Wonderland due to the heat and due to Winterfest's success, indoor attractions, indoor eating, bigger renovations on indoor eating, just lots of stuff coming, more rides testing, more rides that are capable. We saw with carowins, they had a copperhead strike and one of the main things they did was it's capable of running in the colder temperatures. Now we're talking carowins, that's a whole different ball game. Like their winter is warm compared to ours. So finding rides that can run in our winter, different story. But nonetheless, those are things that I expect to happen to Canada's Wonderland. Very simple, very realistic, very seeable in the future. Anyone that understands business and what Canada's Wonderland's Winterfest numbers would mean and translate into would understand that we're gonna see a lot more indoor attractions and venues being built in this park. And you're gonna see them added very quickly.  Nonetheless, hope you guys enjoyed this video. Five days, five days until Canada's Wonderland opens. Super excited, ah! I know you guys are too. I'm reading your comments. I'm trying to respond to as many as possible. Every time I make a video, I'm making these videos after work and then I go to work the next day and I'm trying to respond on my breaks and just in between rushes and all that. But tomorrow's gonna be a little bit of a different story when this video uploads. It's day one of no more lockdown, so I'm gonna be busy. So if I'm a little slower at responding right now, just give me time. I promise I'm gonna respond. So comment what you think this could mean for Canada's Wonderland in terms of additions. What do you think's coming and where do you think they could be placed? Anyways, thanks so much for supporting the channel and watching my vids. Again, join us in Discord. So many people are joining. It's crazy. We've grown almost like 200 people in two weeks. So let's keep pushing those numbers. It's awesome in there and I love that all of you are joining. And yeah, thanks so much. Thanks for watching. Have a good one. Bye.


Can I go to the beach as an amputee with a prosthetic leg? Yes, absolutely, but it is going to require some extra precautions. As you know, sand gets absolutely everywhere, and this is really a problem when you have a metal leg that seals onto you. When I'm done at the beach, I have to make sure that I'm cleaning out all the parts and pieces of my leg, making sure there isn't sand in a valve or in my foot shell causing wear and tear. Additionally, walking on sand can cause a lot of grinding in my leg. It can be pretty uncomfortable because of the uneven surface, so I'm going to look for that hard-packed sand, as most of us do anyways, as soon as possible. Also, I can technically go in the ocean, I can go in the water, but it is such a nightmare to try to clean out all of the sand and gunk that gets into it that I honestly just opt not to. I love going to the beach as an amputee with my prosthetic leg, I just choose to enjoy it from the sand and not the water.


Today we continue our tour of the west rand right here on this four-bedroom 5.5 bathroom home spread out across three full levels The views here are magnificent and that isn't the only thing that will take your breath away My name is Chad Rivera's this is the private property home shopper show and there's one last thing I have to say to you and that's welcome home Right here coming down those flights of stairs with the double doors behind me There are so many things to talk about the first and the one that everybody's going to notice taking that trip down that long flight of stairs Is that that stay is flanked by Koi ponds both on the left and right and it is full of stunning Koi There's also fountains pushing down into the Koi pond giving you the most Incredible soundscape for you to enjoy when you are here and right now you can see I'm standing in the entrance Hall and what a grand entrance hall it is with a whole level above me and Uninterrupted views up to the ceiling coming down this small flight of stairs We find ourselves in the first living area slash Really just a place to sit down and relax Sunning lighting elements just above me. I really love the crystal But this is another one of those features that's going to take your breath away We've got stackable sliding doors on both sides of this opening leading immediately out onto your pool This pool overflows all the way down another whole level into a catchment area just below it over here We've got the jacuzzi which again I think is absolutely incredible Specifically with those views that view that you see right there is over a green belt with exclusive views to people living within this Estate now on my right inside. There's a flight of stairs that leads down to a studio area Now the studio area is a very large and a perfect spot for you to make as an office a home away from home Or should I say a work away from work so you can do that right here within this house I love that they've got the space and the levels Separating your work life and your play life right here is another living area Sitting room area this could make a perfect TV room as well Specifically if you'd like to watch TV with the view because this has access to its very own Private balcony just on the right hand side again another set of sliding stackable doors Separating this from outside all of the sliding doors as well as the stackable doors are aluminum frame So you know that upkeep is gonna be minimal above us very high ceilings full of down lighting as well as a window on the left Inside very spacious for you to do with us as you will like it is right now Just a sitting room area place for you to sit down share a cup of coffee and maybe even a meal Love that it's been included specifically with these almost 180 degree views of that green belt very nice But it's a home that is very easy to maintain this whole home is serviced by a central vacuum cleaning unit And that vacuum cleaning unit pumps all the way up to the half garage So you've got two double garages within this home And then you've got your half garage that can either be used to store bicycles if you're an outdoor enthusiast because this is also where You'll find all the maintenance structures as well as the empty tank for your half vacuum now as I'd mentioned It's time to talk about the dining room and kitchen area I'm standing right now smack bang in the middle of the dining room area and this six-seater dining room table fits here with ease and Plenty of space on either side So if you'd like to upgrade to something bigger because you're an entertainer and you love that you can do that right here Off to my left-hand side is the TV room which we'll explore in the moment and on to my right-hand side That is the access area for one of your garages and as you can see I've slowly led into this kitchen Beautifully decorated with some red highlights We've got a massive center floating island right here with underneath plenty of undercounter storage all of the cupboards Throughout the home are decorated in beautiful dark wood love the contrast with the white walls As you can see we've got a little bit of fog glass elements right as a display cabinetry And then above us a continuation of the dark wood design element And that is that bulkhead ceiling with a couple of downlights and you've got that stainless steel chandelier there adding a bit Of pop you know making it just slightly more special We've got a window here letting in lots of natural light, but also overlooking your outdoor entertainment area Which is absolutely massive love how big it is over here What fancy home is complete without your very own six burner gas stove with the oven underneath this is a free Standing unit, so if you're a budding chef if you love cooking this home is for you above it You've got your extractor fan also finished in that beautiful stainless steel that matches those downlights over there And then coming through this area you find yourself in a separate coffee area all of the cabinetry again finished in that dark wood Above counter you've got that Caesar stone giving you that pop of white in this room here again Just adding to the high-class finishes now adjacent to your coffee area You've got your scullery your scullery's got plenty of space under counter for your appliances again You've got your double sink there more cupboard space as well as space for your double door fridge And all of that space for dry goods I think it's so good to have a kitchen that is fully decked out for plenty of storage just in case you need extra space So now that we've gone on all the eating areas out the way I think it's time to talk about where you'll be enjoying these meals Specifically the fire meals you'll be whipping up on a stainless steel gas stove And that's right here within your living room area. This is almost decked out like a home theater room You've got beautiful wood flooring and dark wood flooring at that You've got a window that is eye level to the pond that Kori pond we spoke about initially It is right here going through this window I love how as you look out of it you're looking out at water level and see the beautiful fishes swimming around Downlighting above us got plenty of space to mount some surround sound speakers And then in the corner just in case you need it if you need a place to store all those DVDs All of those home movies you've got it right here because there is a built-in storage cabinet Growing up we're always told by our parents that you can't watch too much TV You need to spend some time outside and through these stackable glass doors We find ourselves in one of the most incredible outdoor areas I think Kruger's Op has to offer on my left again You get to experience the joys of having a pool that looks like this I think it's one of the coolest pools and features in the home specifically with how it leads seamlessly to the indoor area But this outdoor area is huge We've got this all-shaped couch right here that takes up not even a quarter of what is to offer outside And this is what is what this is what's off outside guys this take a look at this We've got an outdoor area that wraps all the way around to the bright side We've got a gas bra right over there another outdoor dining room area, but not one dining room area Two dining room areas maybe three dining room areas Yes, the kid is table, but there's just so much space here And I love the fact that there's so many tables out here because you get to really understand How much there is to offer and what you can do with outside here throw a jacuzzi somewhere and you'll be living the best life Specifically with that view and while we're here Let's talk about this view you can see the full-on green belt That is for exclusive use of yourself with a dam on the right-hand side some park benches as well as Areas out there for you to sit down relax and enjoy a nice meal as well as another dam all the way out to the opposite side of The green belt again for you to sit down relax and have some outdoor activity I love that it's been included and it is so cool that you have as an owner here Exclusive use to their green belt, but now I think it's time before we head on back inside Let's go around here to the set of stairs and see what else this home has to offer First off you see the catchment area for this beautiful fountain We've had to unfortunately turn it off otherwise it would have interfered with the sound on the mic But you've got access to your own private garden downstairs and quite a spacious one for a home That's built like this you can see the three levels rising up behind me You can really appreciate that but over here you have your very own Private downstairs area also you have your own built-in bride can set up something nice here Have a cool barbecue all of the smoke is funneled all the way up and away from the entertainment areas and right over here This is the perfect entertainment area Not only is it very close to the bride as well as the pool upstairs But it is fully enclosed you've got a window over there and over there your own private bathroom The toilet inside of that Perfectly set up for you to have board games down here Maybe make it a games room to put a pool table put a bar somewhere And if you are having people over right over here is where you can funnel everybody to have the best time then when you Where you're standing is another storage area. So as I mentioned this would make an Incredible entertainment area. Let's take a look at the storage area right quick over here Plans your space for you to set this up. Maybe as your own bar. Maybe as an Extenuation of the toilet area if you'd like to make this a fully enclosed and self-sustained cottage this right here Could be your kitchen area So I love the opportunities and the potential this home has but guys looking at this with all the down lighting and these Beautiful glass windows and doors mmm. I can see myself whipping up having a bride and having some fun downstairs But now some Ted back upstairs because we're gonna be looking at the bedrooms So now that we've spoken about all the living areas We've touched on the incredible pool and entertainment potential this home has I think it's now time for us to take a look at the bedrooms So as we get here one thing we always need to talk about and that is the guest bathrooms within homes like this And this home does come with your own guest bathroom that is perfectly situated just off the entrance hall You've got your single vanity with a mirror just above it and the toilet tucked away Privately on the far end of the hallway lover that's been done with your black door leading out back into all your living Areas or you can come this way where I'm walking enjoy the view at this window of the koi pond Plenty of fish in there beautiful beautiful to see the Sun skate down past That stair area, but right now we've got to go just this way and that's into the bedroom And here we are the first bedroom in the only bedroom located downstairs before I came into this bedroom You've got a linen cupboard just off against the wall and then through the store You've got your very own outdoor area for you to enjoy Specifically with those views the views are incredible all the way up on the outdoor area You've got your two servants quarters as well as an outdoor bathroom, but we're in the bedroom So let's talk about this bedroom very spacious plenty of lighting you want all the down lighting built into the ceiling You've got your cupboard space right here on the right-hand side again with that dark wood finishes And then some frosted gloss just giving it that extra oomph making it look a little bit more special a little bit fancy But this bedroom does come with its own ensuite bathroom Let's check it out. So walking into your ensuite bottom You have your toilet front and center was on the right-hand side a walking shower glossing closed on both sides beautiful black finishes on the tiles and just above it that rainfall shower head and then on the right-hand side You've got a corner bath tub window just above it really cool feature Not one that we see often is that corner bath tub. Love that it's been included here Now all the other bedrooms in this house are located upstairs. So yeah, we are on the stairs We've got down lighting on all the stairs as well as some really nice stainless steel finishes as ballast trades Gloss not interrupting any of the views Specifically those views of the Coypon and talking about views of the Coypon. Let's stop right here You've got almost floor-to-ceiling windows looking out onto your entryway onto that staircase leading all the way down As well as your fish pond and then right over there one bedroom and over here the other Let's go this way first right and then let's lead off to the left So walking towards this bedroom the first thing we'll notice is up on the ceiling You've got those access panels for your central air-conditioning system that service This is the house right over here is another one of those panels for the central air conditioning now behind me Your very own miniature walking closet black paneling or dark wood paneling should I say on all the cupboard doors? Love that it's been included really cool little spot for you to utilize when getting ready Especially if you change out that frosted panel for a mirrored panel Not to serve as your mirror when getting ready plenty of space here You can see how easily this bed fits in and now in lieu of what we saw downstairs This home also has a sliding glass door and has access to your very own Vulcany love that the different bedrooms have got these features that do make them feel so unique But one of the killer selling points here guys is this view. I love the view You almost get the vibe of it being half a quarry with the dam just below it really pretty Can you imagine waking up here getting that breeze of fresh air getting all that natural light and being able to look out at that This room also comes with this very own walk-in bathroom now This bathroom is again completely different from what we saw downstairs You've got your toilet tucked away right in the front and long boss up your regular Rectangular boss tab here, but now the shower has no gloss instead It's built up with the tiles you can walk right into it enjoy that rainfall shower head And I love how as I mentioned all the different rooms have something unique and special about them So we have two rooms down two more to go and here is the third bedroom that we've showcased today We've traded the beautiful white tiles to dark wood floors and that continues with the dark wood cladding on the cupboards And we've seen in all the bedrooms We've got again the frosted glass here that I think could be changed up for mirrors If you'd like to make this bedroom look a little bit bigger or use that to get ready Then we've also got an ottoman right here on the floor that gives you some idea of the space And how this room is quite a bit larger than the last one we just spoke about on my left-hand side You've got your walk-in bathroom, but right here. Let's talk about this bedroom area. I Right now, there's definitely my favorite bedroom without a doubt We've got this bed right here plenty of space Chandelier just above it giving this room just a bit more character But we've got windows right in front of me and then windows on my left-hand side giving you Such a cool feel of being outdoors I love the way the yield rises up against the house and gives you such a visceral feeling of being outdoors We're just being somewhere special We don't generally see views like this in South Africa or should I at least say within Johannesburg and I definitely appreciate the fact that this home has been built Artwards facing outwards looking at those yields I'm definitely gonna ask the cameraman to get some really nice B-roll footage that will play Yeah, all the yields and all the views you'll get in this bedroom But first let's talk about the bathroom Now your bathrooms got a single vanity beautiful scoop shaped sink above it mirror below it some under counter storage You've got now a even more special feeling bath tub freestanding four-legged bath tub off into the corner that you can really enjoy Knowing that the views are just outside and then the last but not least would have to be the shower You've got full on frosted glass Making up the whole one wall of the shower rainfall shower head above beautiful beautiful bathroom Now as I did mention this home is a four-bed five and a half bathroom home But off to my left you've got your own office area or as you've seen before it could be a nursery and here It is either your office or your nursery. I think it makes a perfect office No cupboards in this room and that is why I generally lean towards it being an office right here Plenty of space for a car for you to sit down Bring everybody in and give them a good talking to as you sit behind your awesome Mahogany desk window off to your left hand side lots of space air conditioning above So every single thing you'd need in an office right now Let's get it out with a fridge and some coffee accessories just above it So you really know people here are getting some hard work done But that does sum up every single room in this house except one and that's the creme de la creme the master suite And we're gonna check it out right now And here we are guys in the master suite one two three different air conditioning vents for this room alone And that speaks to just how big it is again more of the beautiful wood flooring plenty of Downlighting now most of the bedrooms have dimmer switches on them So if you'd like to put some mood lighting in here You really can off right here at the far end of the room You've got a full-on dress a Caesar stone countertops massive mirror plenty of shelving space for you to put your ornaments Or put some stuff there that really does make this feel like home And then what master suite would be complete without your own? Bulkiness so let's take a walk outside and show you these stunning views from the third floor all the way around We've got our downstairs entertainment area there, and you can see basically 180 degrees love the green belt really nice area nice and private as well to Downlighters on either side of the door giving you a bit of lighting RG If you'd like to make this a smart private area for you to relax in your own abode Your den should I say but now it's time to look at the en suite bathroom So coming through this door you've got a door that separates it from the bedroom They've got a full-on area with some cupboard space as well as Caesar stone countertops Got some beautiful tulips on that really does feel smart and fancy in here And with these four poster pillars surrounding your jacuzzi bath tub It feels like you at the spa love that it's been done up and made to feel special like that when you're relaxing in the Bath you've got to feel special window above it all frosted double vanity here again those scooped sinks Stunning faucets above it plenty of cupboard space below it as well as a space here for all your towels to slip into again Very spa like two separate mirrors and yeah talking about a spa. You've got a full-on spa shower One two three four jets in the spa shower just for you as well as a place to sit down You want to relax you might as well be able to sit down in your shower Toilet privately off to the left-hand side and over here is your very own walk-in closet So your walking closet is full of cupboard space all clad in dark wood as well as some frosted elements there Giving you place to display your most valued items of clothing lots of down lighting and again No, no no master suite is complete without a walking closet Some of the really cool points to talk about this bathroom is you've got a plug point off the vanities So if you'd like to do some shaving or if you need to charge anything your hair straightened I maybe you know that that's right there But if you're looking for a home this big or anywhere in between what I'd like you to do is go to www.privateproperty.co.za as we amalgamate all the listings from every single estate agent across the country and one easy to Find and easy to search place But from myself Chad Rivera's from the team at private property as well as the team at the home shopper show Thank you so much for tuning in and we'll see you next time every Monday and Friday at 8 p.m. Thank you. 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