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Here we are in our custom zero homepage going into the new company file we set up in a prior presentation that being get great guitars duplicating some tabs to put reports in by right-clicking the tab up top and duplicating it right-clicking the duplicated tab and duplicating again back to the tab to the middle go into the accounting drop down so we can open up the balance sheet report then we'll tab to the right accounting drop down this time the income statement so those are our major two financial statement reports I'm going to go back to the balance sheet and we're going to start to format these reports as if we're going to be providing them to whoever we need to provide them to in our case we're gonna imagine primarily that we are a bookkeeper that are giving the reports possibly on a monthly or quarterly basis to a client but you would have a similar scenario if you're given the reports to like a supervisor if it was an internal situation if you need the reports primarily in the United States for tax preparation possibly you have to think about how you're gonna group the reports to give them to your tax preparer or whatever at the end of the year you might need to format them for giving them to a bank or something like that whoever you need to give the reports to the point is that making the reports formatted nicely is going to be a huge part of the process if you're doing a bookkeeping type of system so let's imagine we're a client for example I mean we're a bookkeeper providing reports to a client then notice that the client if you're in the United States and you have like a small business client for example they probably primarily need the reports possibly at year end to help out with tax preparation or something like that but you would still like to give them the reports on a quarterly basis so they can use them for internal purposes and decision-making but also just to be able to give them some confidence that hey we're putting the bookkeeper information in place we're gonna be here for you when you need us at year end you also want to keep in mind who you're given the reports to to think about how detailed you want the reports to be so you might have more simplified reports versus more complex reports and how much other reports do you want to be adding to this in terms of supplemental reports that are going to be added on to the balance sheet and the income statement so let's just do a couple reports and imagining we're going to group them together I'm going to do this a few different ways we will give them to our client that's also going to be quite important how are we going to give them to the client we could do it with a PDF file and email it to them or maybe we could try to get all the reports on one PDF file which we'll try to do here with the help and use of the exporting feature and Excel so we don't even need like Adobe fancy Adobe software or anything to get it on one PDF file which can be quite nice sometimes so those pros and cons to those different formats all right so given that let's run this report just for January now so because we just did one month of data input we're gonna imagine we're gonna give this to a client so let's do a custom date range and I'm gonna bring this on back to January 2023 January 30th for 2023 now we're gonna update this is a standard balance sheet now you might have a couple different formatings of the balance sheet you might you might think about doing you might say hey look maybe I'm just gonna try to give a summary balance sheet that will be very easy to look at and then and then possibly giving more detail on a on a different balance sheets now note down here zero has this really neat edit layout which gives you a lot more flexibility even than other online software such as Quick Books which is really neat so you've got your groups basically here and you could start to collapse your groups so I could collapse this group I could just take a look at all my assets in terms of current assets and I can break them down and hide these so now I've got long term and long term assets so now I've got current fixed and long term and then on the liabilities maybe I want current liabilities and long term liabilities and on the equity maybe I just want all the equity in one account called equity so if we do something like that I can update the layout and we have basically a summarized type of balance sheet here so that might be a good place to basically start with a very simple type of report that might be the first one you provide to someone and then if you're doing a presentation that's often useful because then people's eyes don't roll over this that's not too many numbers I'm not gonna check out quite yet and and so that's a good one to start with and then and then you gradually take them into the beautiful nuance of multiple numbers in future reports now you also might change the name up top I'm gonna call it like a summary balance sheet so summary balance sheet and then you might want to think about saving these kind of reports for our future use so I'm gonna say can I save the custom report and I'm gonna call it a summary summary balance sheet and make custom I'm not gonna make it the default I'm gonna save it and so now we've got our custom report there so it has been saved custom report okay so I'm gonna then if I go back to my reports let's go this way I counting drop down and into my reports then I got my custom tab up top and as I do this from month to month I can open up my summary report from here and the formatting should be formatted for us and then we could just basically change the date ranges so there's that one now another one let's do another one starting with a balance sheet so I'm gonna go in the drop down and open up another balance sheet another common format we might want on a balance sheet is like a vertical analysis comparing everything to the total assets and liabilities so that one's a pretty easy one to construct to so let's hit the drop down custom date range it and go up to 2023 end of our let's do it Jan January 2023 and update it so they have a pretty neat functionality to do this report we can go to the edit layout on this side and then we can just say I'm gonna add a column so I'm gonna say add a column and I want the column to be a formula based column so I'm gonna just add a column over here and then it gives us our formulas that we can that we can use and I want to say show as well hold on I don't want that one I'm gonna trash that one trashed it let's do another one we want let's do a percent column so we want to show select column January 31st and then we're gonna say select select as a percent of and we want assets total assets so we're gonna pick up the assets okay so I think that's it so that's takes a little bit of time to kind of get used to that but you have more flexibility doing this here than you do with other software so it's pretty pretty neat so let's update the layout and check out and see if it does what we would expect I'll pull out the trustee calculator as it's populating here so we can check and see if it does what we think it should so we've got our percentage column so now we're comparing everything like the current assets for example one five two one nine five point seven five over the liability or the total assets two four two six nine five point seven five is not quite right well that's cuz I had the number covered up one five two one nine five point seven five over two four two six nine five point seven five yeah there it is sixty two seventy one so if I scroll down we do the same thing on the liability side so this is a common like you might call it a vertical analysis so let's call it that vertical analysis balance sheet vertical analysis I don't know how to spell analysis that's not good it was I think that's right so then we can custom save that one so we'll say custom save and I'm gonna call it vertical vertical analysis analysis balance sheet alright save that one so that's a common type of balance sheet and then I could just do a normal balance sheet but notice then you come into questions and in terms of this one already has all the information of a normal balance sheet plus an added column so so maybe that's enough or maybe you want the summary balance sheet a normal balance sheet without the added column and then one with the added column right these are choices that you kind of have to make when you're grouping the reports together now as time passes we'll also have comparative opportunities which are almost infinite right we can compare month-to-month we can compare this month to the prior month we can compare year-to-date to year-to-date you know we can compare the current quarter to the last quarter and so on and so forth so but we only have one month right now so we might talk more about comparative reports after month two is done let's go to the income statement and do a similar kind of thing here we'll hit the hit the good old drop down and do a custom date range in the beginning date I'm gonna say is January 1st ending date January 31st we're just doing it for one month of January we will update it here now you could do a summary income statement as well but we don't have much to summarize right now because we didn't use much of the grouping things for example if you had a lot of expenses down here where you grouped things together such as having utilities and then grouping things under the utilities then you might do a summary income statement which will combine all those groupings but we didn't do any of that as of yet and therefore the summary income statement would possibly not be as useful but we can then we can still do a vertical analysis statement usually a vertical analysis statement is going to be comparing to the total income line here so we can say edit the layout on this one and I could say let's add a column on this one and we've got the percentages let's say percentage and we have then show January 2023 and we want select the row as a percent of income meaning we're gonna compare everything to income and that's basically it and we can just update that report and now we have like a vertical analysis type of income statement so if I pull out the trustee calculator now we're comparing everything to this income line and so that's a quite common type of report 37242 divided by 53857 that's where we're getting this 6915 so that's another one you might call a vertical analysis and notice you could change the report title up top you might call it vertical analysis something like that hopefully I spilled it right if you don't want the profit or loss or you want the profit loss and not the income statement you can change the headers to how you might want to present them to a client whichever you think they would be preferring and so there we have that now again I could do another income statement that just has no added column but that would be somewhat redundant but maybe that would be a more simplified report to start with that that's definitely what I would do in a presentation and later on we'll do other kind of analysis reports or we could in the second month subtracting out one month minus another month and having the difference and the percentage change a horizontal analysis type of report but for now let's just let's just keep this report by the way if I go to the edit layout down here if you're used to sub accounts with something like a quick books or something like that the way to do that is a grouping technique so you can still do those basically make a parent account and like a sub account with your reports and you actually have more flexibility with the grouping function so we might talk about we've we might talk about that later in the in the second half of the course when we start to add more expenses in the second month so but for now we've got this and so let's go ahead and save this one we'll customize it and let's save it and then we're gonna save it as a vertical analysis now analysis oh my goodness my fingers don't work well that's because they restricted my characters I'm gonna delete the profit and loss vertical analysis oh my gosh I had to stop and drink some coffee now I'm back I got it now so I'm gonna save it okay so then so now at the at the end of the at the end of the month then we can just go into our custom reports just change the date and report these things out so I'm gonna close these out and now let's just imagine we're going into our reports to print out the month-end reports to give them to a client so I'm gonna say let's go to those reports por favor and check them out custom reports and we've got our three custom reports here we can just generate them change the date and get ready to give them to people so let's go ahead and I'm gonna say right click open link in a new tab so I can open them in a new tab here and then just adjust the date if I needed to adjust the date and then now the question is how am I gonna give them to the client do I want to email them to the client if I do I can save them as PDF files but if you have a whole bunch of PDF files that can be somewhat tedious so then you could cuss you can zip the PDF files which is a little nicer or we could try to get them all on one PDF file and if we're not using fancy software we can use the Excel to do that so let's see how we might do that let's first export it as a PDF file that's the easy thing to do we'll just say P to the D to the F and then I'm gonna put it in this folder that I've created I'm just gonna drag it on in there so drag it on in grab it and drag it grab it and drag it alright and then I'll say so there's the first report I might well let's just keep the name and then then I can go to the next one let's open the vertical analysis balance sheet right click in a new tab possibly and if I had to change the dates I just change the dates or whatnot I could just go boom it's ready to go PDF it PDF it and then we're just gonna drag that on over so there's our two reports thus far and then we'll just open up the third and final report alright so we'll open that bad doggy up and so vertical analysis okay let's just export that to the P to the D to the F and and so it's nice and easy once you get your report set up like this and you can go in there each month and possibly bundle them once you have them in a folder though you might think and notice you might have a lot more reports you might put a trial balance in here but or you might once we have a couple months of data have comparative reports as well but these are the you know just some general example reports you could give them to a client and attach them but again there would be a lot of attachments so you might also put them into a cloud drive like a one drive if you you're comfortable sharing in that way with a client or a Google cloud drive or something like that that can be useful or you might give it you might give it to them in a zipped file if you're gonna email it now if you're the other thing you might want to do is number your reports otherwise it's gonna go in here in terms of kind of alphabetical order right so you might you might right click on it and I'm gonna rename it and say maybe I don't need the summary blah blah or this part of it I'm just gonna say this is number one summary balance sheet and then I'm gonna go into the get great this one right click edit that one get rid of the get great guitars and just call it a number two and then this one I'm gonna right click on it and edit it and get rid of the end bit or the beginning bit and call it number three so that at least then if you have it in a one drive you give them some understanding of which report they should open first right so it's not just in there in alphabetical order the next thing we can do is I could right click on this and add a folder and say we're gonna call this reports for January or something like that and I can put these reports in it in that folder and I could zip or compress the folder because I can't attach this folder to an email but I can attach a zipped folder so I can right click on this and I can say I want to zip it or compress it where's I always get confused with the new layout that they did zip or compress now your zipped file might not look like this it might just have a little zipper on it but the point is whatever the zipping software you have is that they they can now upload this to a email and that that's great now it's also still good to have it numbered inside of a zipped file so that when they open the zipped file they know which files they should open first second third in terms of which reports you think are you know should be open for a second or third now the next tool we can use as I can open all of these up and export them to Excel not because I'm gonna give them to the client in Excel but because we can use Excel to put all those reports on one PDF file which could be a nice alternative and it could be somewhat impressive and remember impressing the client by just saying hey look I'm doing my deal due diligence here by giving you nice reports in a format that looks good is gonna be a big part of keeping the client happy and you know happy clients usually means that you will be happier as well you can't keep all the clients happy if you're doing everything to keep them happy and they're still not happy then you drop them as a client but if it's your fault because you're given ugly reports then you can up you can improve the reports okay in any case let's go ahead and export these to Excel will show that process so then we're gonna say you can't they you know the saying you can't make everyone happy I'm not sure that's totally true I don't think you actually make anyone happy people tend to just be happy or not happy and and so you try to you try to work with happy clients I don't know anyways I'm gonna delete this so this is gonna I'm just gonna call this whole report the report Jan January and then we're gonna go into that and so then this I'm gonna put all my reports in here now and the format so I'm gonna make this a little bit larger notice you can do a lot more formatting within within the layout here because it is kind of like boxed up on the left-hand side so once it's in Excel the downside of using this method is that the formatting isn't quite a centered as the formatting when you just save it as a PDF but you do have a lot more flexibility within Excel to do editing within Excel obviously you would have to do that each time you export it to Excel but those are the pros and cons now oftentimes I like to go to the page layout and say I want to view the grid lines and the sheet options so I could see the grid lines they don't print the grid lines but I'd like to kind of see them on the sheet and then sometimes I go to this next tab over here and then back on over because that shows me where this ending point is going to be so you might for example try to center your document by expanding the B column until it until you're basically gonna hit the line right there you could expand these items and you might actually also insert another column here right so that you could basically center this thing and have have an equal distance you probably want these two to be the same you know width or whatever but you can play with the formatting of it the idea is now we have it in Excel so once I have now what I want to do on the future reports is put the other reports in another tab in the same sheet and then use Excel to print them all not on to actual paper but use an acute PDF printer or some kind of PDF printer print it to a an actual PDF file so we can have all the reports on one PDF file so let's go ahead and save this and I'll show you what I mean let's do another one because we're running low on where you're going long on time man you're going long on time look at the clock you're breaking your own rules you're pulling too much time and go into Excel this time this time I'm gonna open up Excel and so there it is enable the editing I'm gonna copy the whole sheet by putting my cursor on the little triangle I'm not gonna edit anything here but rather copy everything from here go to my other sheet where I wanted to go add a new sheet put my cursor either in a one or select the whole sheet with the triangle and control V so there we have it and so there it is I'm gonna go to the second tab and back on over and I can see if it fits on a sheet it fits on a sheet so maybe this one I make a little bit larger again I might put another buffer column by right-clicking let's zoom in right-clicking and insert so we have like a little buffer on this side and these two should probably be the same width or so something like that I don't know so it looks but looks pretty good on the form that's not the same size what are you talking about there they are okay so you probably want to get those margins to be the same size as these margins too but I'm not gonna get overly technical here so that looks good okay and so I'm not gonna get into the formatting too much but you could go into more format I'm gonna go to the next tab same thing export this one as well and then open it up open it up and I'm just gonna copy it again so I'll say enable the editing triangle selecting the entire sheet right-click and copy and bringing that over I'm gonna hit another tab down here and say either in a one or select the whole sheet right-click and paste it paste it por favor and then I'm gonna lay out tab here's the end line so let's insert another column hold on hold on didn't want to do it why didn't you want to do what I said insert there we go all right and then we'll make this one a little varger something like that for example for a hamplow so this is let's the second one is gonna be vert vert balance sheet and this third what I'm gonna say is vert income statement okay so then if I want to print these things out on one PDF file I can go to the first file tab I can go into the printing option now if you don't have a this a PDF printer you can look online for something called the cute PDF writer I think it's free it was when I downloaded it and it's it works well for me I've used it for years it's great you know as far as I mean I've I don't think it's safe to download and unless the PDF unless the cute PDF people are spying on me and I downloaded malware well I did it which I wouldn't be surprised these days I don't know but it seems to work okay for me I think it's I think it's good I think it's good that's what I use so I'm gonna go to that one cute PDF printer probably it's just like I probably got China spying on me now I downloaded it from tiktok or something I don't know no it's good I think print I want to print the entire workbook and then if I tap through this so this is what it looks like so there's the three pages so now they're all on one PDF let's print it and here we go here we go so we're gonna go to the desktop and that's not the desktop I want to go into zero my zero folder there's garbage clean up your desktop for crying out okay whatever whatever just move on report it's gonna go into the reports here so we're gonna go ahead and save it as a PDF your desk your desktop is dirty it's got stuff on what mines organized you just don't understand my filing system so if we go into here month one now we can give these reports to people in an Excel format if we so choose but we also have the option of attaching this PDF file so they're all on one file which is kind of neat and again it can be kind of a little bit impressive because you know a lot of people won't do that extra step and so and and what you want to do again is to make your you know if you could do that without too much effort and put a little bit of extra extra time into the report that can go a long way with client confidence


Hello, in this presentation we will define equivalent units of production EUP. According to fundamental accounting principles, while the 22nd edition, the definition of equivalent units of production EUP is number of units that would be completed if effort during a period had been applied to units that were started and finished. Support accounting instruction by clicking the link below giving you a free month membership to all of the content on our website broken out by category further broken out by course. Each course then organized in a logical, reasonable fashion making it much more easy to find what you need than can be done on a YouTube page. We also include added resources such as Excel practice problems, PDF files and more like QuickBooks backup files when applicable. So once again click the link below for a free month membership to our website and all the content on it. When considering the equivalent units, we can think of a calculation and we're thinking about the calculation in terms of materials and conversion. So we can think of an idea of having total units, some of those completed, some of those not completed and then an idea of what would the equivalent units then be. So if we had beginning working process, units started and completed, ending working process and total units broken out in this format representing all units that would then be started and completed. We can then think about well which of those units would be started and completed or how complete are they in terms of materials and how complete are they in terms of conversion meaning how complete are they in terms of equivalent units for materials and equivalent units for conversion and a first in first out method we would say that the 3000 units that were in the beginning, none of that was done during the process here meaning none of the equivalent unit costs happened during this particular month because they happened last month. The ones that were in terms of the conversion then we're going to come up with some type of conversion, this percentage being the amount of conversion that was done during this time period so that 3000 times the 60 gives us the equivalent units of conversion, the direct labor and the overhead applied, those being the conversion costs then we're going to have the items started and completed. The reason we're breaking them out in this format is that we can get this started and completed unit and those units we know that are completed 100% in terms of materials and 100% in terms of conversion because they were started and completed. Then we have the ending units we know that if we are ending inventory and we're using a FIFO method then we're going to say 100% of those items were started in terms of material for equivalent units but we only have partially done the conversion so they're still in process in terms of materials but in terms of equivalent units for conversion only partially done and that would give us the equivalent units for the conversion. Then if we were to add these up we would say this is the total units we're talking about 24,600 but some of those are not complete. How complete are they in terms of direct materials? Well instead of the 24,600 we only have the 21,600 equivalent units always being less than the total and then we could say well of the 24,600 total units we are accounting for we only have 22,920 in terms of equivalent units for the conversion costs.


Thank you a lot to figure out make sure I'm you know prepared when I come in and If you if you want to discuss any of this feel free we can talk by phone or get to others You need a hand with anything Bring a plug-in purposely so that my computer dies. I'm leaving We're gonna be really quick I noticed the timing on it we have it has out of here by nine o'clock. I Think we can do it earlier than that and this is This is why listen to the announcements. Are we ready? Are we recording? Good evening. My name is Don Fillebert. I'd like to welcome you all to the development review board of South Burlington for Wednesday July 6th 2022 I'm I want to welcome members of our board who are here with us and online. I'll introduce them We have Frank Cokman Stephanie Wyman Mark Bear John Stern and online we have Dan Albrecht and Quinn Mann and also with us from the City of South Burlington is our development review planner Marla Keane online and Betsy Brown and Betsy. I don't know your title planning and zoning assistant. Thank you. Thank you. I had planning assistant So how's that? Okay, so there's pardon me. There's a couple of ways to participate tonight Pardon me. The first one is to attend as you are in the audience the second way is virtually and Excuse me for just a second. I'm rusty. I haven't done this for a month and a half the third way is to call and listen by phone and all of these ways will allow you to participate If you are attending virtually, we have a couple of Requests for you and that is to please keep your microphones muted and your cameras off unless you are actively participating in providing testimony or comments to the board And if you wish to participate raise your hand and we will recognize you and then you can turn your camera on and your microphone on and also the chat function is for administrative matters only Comments submitted in the chat will not be recognized as part of the meeting record. So please avoid talking amongst yourselves Our first item on the agenda is to review the emergency evacuation procedures and Those are as follows. There are Doors in the back of each side of the auditorium you would exit the doors in the event of an emergency And you can get outside by either going right or left Pardon me the next item on the agenda is number two additions deletions or changes in the order of agenda items and I have one to bring up and that is agenda item number eight which is Site plan application sp. 22 o 2 8 of Riley Cohen partnerships the applicant has asked that we Continue the hearing to September and that will give them time to really work on some of the Comments and come back to us with a some answers for the issues that staff raised so Having said that I would entertain a motion to Continue that hearing to the September meeting. What's the date of September meeting? I don't have Marla. Do you know the date of the September meeting? Yep, September 7th, September 7th. Okay. I make a motion. We continue site plan application sp. 22 o 2 8 of Riley Cohen partnership to September 7th Second great. Are there is there any discussion? I'll in favor of the motion signify by saying aye aye any Any nays Okay, the motion is carried and we will see you see you in September as the song goes Are there any other additions deletions or changes in the order of agenda items for tonight? Announcements any announcements hearing none Are there any comments and questions from the public that are not specifically related to the agenda? Hearing none, we're going to Move on to presentations by applicants now This is a little unusual tonight because we have three applications to review and they all have been written as Draft decisions usually we have a staff report which identifies the issues and we discuss the issues with the applicant, but These three projects were such that Marla thought she could draft the decision and move us that much closer so It'll be a little different format than we've had in the past Miscellaneous application MS 2 2 o 2 of Champlain School Apartments partnership to amend a previously Previous approval for encroachment into a class to wetland buffer Amendment consists of expanding the area of impact for the purpose of temporary construction impacts at 1068 Williston Road who is here for the applicant done. That's me. So I'm going to recuse myself Yeah, I meant to ask for recusals. Thank you Just so you guys know we can see the shared screen when it was being shared, but we can't see an audience or a Board member view How do we fix that I think it sounds like Travis is working on it, but I just wanted to the board to know, okay I'm just assuming it's Travis there. I can't see the back of the room so We're gonna swear you in Raise your right hand Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury? Thank you Why don't you? Pardon me. Why don't you give us a very brief three-minute overview of what you're proposing? Yep, so The project is the holiday in redevelopment project, which is at the intersection of Williston Road and Dorset Street The if you can bring up page six of the application it'll give you kind of an overview so the plan is to redevelop the existing holiday in building and Yes, that's great so you will be Demolishing well, they've already done it. They've already demolished the existing conference room and The boat they're calling B wing, which is the east to west portion of the existing holiday and hotel and they'll be doing renovations to that there'll be a New Hampton Inn hotel at the south of the site and also a new proposed mixed-use building Tow the east which will have Now it'll have 83 residential units and about like five or six thousand square feet of commercial space This is in the Form-based code t4 district so everything goes through administrative review However, we are proposing to impact the class 2 wetland buffer for construction purposes and So that's what we're here tonight for board approval. So back in October of 2021. We came in for approval of 670 square feet of buffer impacts But since that time, we've done some more geotechnical Investigations and some redesigned to the project So in the original design We had a parking deck that extended over the north side parking lot and that parking deck has now been removed from the project And parking is going to be underground at the underneath the building so because of that We'll need additional encroachment into the wetland buffer. So now we're asking for 2180 square feet of buffer encroachment and that's for You know construction of the deeper foundation for the underground parking Thank you It's framed I thought the explanation of the application was it was framed as a temporary Incursion yes Just for the construction period correct and then after that what happens after that There's going to be a very small portion of the building that it and that has been the same portion that was encroaching previously that will be Over the well and and then or the over the buffer. I'm sorry and then the remainder will be grass That's you can use and it will be maintained as long All right and restored as part of the buffer correct. Yes Yeah, so the total square footage after your finished construction of Encouraging will be what it was in the original and the original proposal. Yes Thank you Other questions about the Comments in the staff report or the way it's written or any questions for the applicant again just Building on that it's temporary and then it comes back to what you originally had requested correct Yeah, so the additional encroachment is for a layback area for built digging a deeper foundation and then for Construction purposes being able to get a vehicle back there. I'm sorry To work on the vertical structure. Thank you. Any other questions comments So maybe we're ready to move on to public comment. Thank you Stephanie Are there any members of the public who would like to comment? Are you able to see the question and if anyone raises their hand the chat? I Neglected to say something Okay, I Neglected to say that if you attend if you're attending the meeting you should sign in on the back table to indicate that you're a participant in In case in the future you want to Participate in an appeal if you're online you can enter your contact number into the Chat box so that we have a record of your participation and if you're on the phone you can submit written comments and register your participation by emailing M Keen Keene at s B url.com I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that So hearing no comments. I think that Well, I'm feeling a little rusty. Do we vote to close this? Okay. Thanks mark So I would entertain a motion to close this hearing I mean I move we close miscellaneous application MS-2202 of Champlain School Department's partnership And I will second that Is there any discussion all in favor of the motion say aye Opposed Motion is carried. Thank you, Stephanie. Thank you Could you please repeat the instructions for online now registering to be part of the meeting I missed that sure if If you go to the chat function Hmm and just to enter your contact information and say please consider me a participant that would be Just your email address or email address. That would be fine. Thank you. Thank you Any other questions? Okay The next Item is number six And this is final plat application sd 2208 of being our developers ink to amend a previously approved planned unit development of four lots Approved for a single-family homes the amendment consists of modifying the approved grading for lots to three and four at 1420 Hinesburg Road Who is here for the applicant? Thank you, Brian. Is there anyone else participating? Test to hang would you make sure Brian's mic is on please it should be bright green Okay, good Is it bright green? There we go. Okay. No, it's great. Okay. Thanks, Brad Brian pre-court, would you please raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to provide is the truth the whole truth in nothing But the truth your penalty of perjury. I do Okay Are there any recusals or conflicts of interest to be announced? Okay, why don't you give us a Three-minute overview very brief. We've read the report, but just update us sure It's a three lot subdivision on Highland Terrace the board approved it last November of 2021 I Entered into a purchase the sales contracted by the three lots the grading that was proposed or approved in the November 21 submission was Wouldn't really work So I'm proposing to change the grading on all three of the lots we raised the Finish floor elevation and change the grading so that there was positive drainage away from the foundations So that's what's reflected and we also adjusted the driveway layout There was a Y in front of each one and I made it more of a traditional So that's about the crux of it. Thank you. I have a question. I don't know if this is for you Marla, but the the Genda in describing the project refers to four lots I Think they single-family homes Marla Yep, so the original lot which is on Heimberg Road and then the three lots that are on Highland Terrace. Okay. Thank you. They're all part of one PUD. Okay Any questions before we start I Think the only question I had and I might be addressed in the staff comments or in or through understanding but was the issue of the construction of the The Retention ponder the planting in between the two lots. How is that being handled in terms of who builds it? When if the houses aren't built together I'm building all three of the houses will build it together. Okay in the initial decision. There is a We have to put up a surety bond for the cost of it And I think that's guaranteed for three years, but we would be doing the construction of it And that's been that was the I had submitted that to South Berlin and the planning department to approve The estimated amount they included it in this packet. Okay, doesn't that's included in that So unless there are any other questions about the project It it seems like we should be focusing on the main issue and that is the height of the buildings Yeah, I'm a little confused with the with the with the problem with that It's true. I'm I'm adjusting the from pre-construction. I'm adjusting it up five and a half feet But if you build a house regular house and you have a basement in it with basement windows you have approximately two feet of the foundation and Most finished floor assemblies are anywhere from 12 to 14 inches. You have three feet of Elevation change right there, right? So my proposal is basically I'm proposing two and a half feet of Additional and again, I said that was to get positive grade away from it The the ones that were approved those houses were in bowls You're not going to get a good product with that. I mean the rain's going to go in it It's it's not a steep slope on that property But it does slope from the Heinsberg Road to Highland Avenue So you have to bring the houses up a little bit in the grade up a little bit Otherwise all the water is going to run right into the house. So it's two and a half feet. So In the staff comments that talked about whether I could get a two-story house in 23 feet Even if I do a nine-foot first floor one foot Second floor eight foot you're at 18 feet there and you've got five foot, but I have plans and it shows I Have elevations and it shows To the point on this plan of 26 and a half feet so I'm confident that I can stay within the Regulations of 28 feet. I'm not worried about and that's showing Starting five and a half feet below finished elevation Above finished out and so he's starting a pre-construction grade. Okay, right So I'm going out five and a half feet and then measuring up. Okay, so and I'm coming up with 26 and a half They're relatively small houses as you can tell even with an 812 pitch, you know for that with You know, I have total rise about five and a half six feet. So I'm I'm not I'm not concerned I don't think any special provisions have to be made we can deal with the 28 feet regulation that's in place So so why is why do we have any issue at all? The question was on the plans that indicated 35 and so that just started the train of thought of like well Oh, they're looking for 35 that was in the table that That was in the table. So I think in the staff report It talks about me amending the the plan that table to reflect the actual regulation of 28 feet Which I'm more than happy to do but I I don't I don't foresee a problem with fitting With me doing homes on there and meeting the the regulations Okay, yeah, I mean if you have a plan it was more to flag the issue if you were planning on 35 And it can only be 28. I wanted to make sure you were going in Yep, with my eyes wide open. Thanks, Marlon. Yep. No, I understand I understand but I think it's been clarified. Yeah, okay Any other questions? Thank you very much Let's turn to the public for any comments. Are there any members of the public who would like to Comment on this application Yes, I would mark Abrams. I'd like to have some questions. Okay. Go ahead. Mr. Abrams The I'm unfamiliar with the various concepts Going back to the the grading or the degrees of grading Was that was that covered just now in the height discussion? In terms of sounded like you're talking about water drainage What's what's the actual Request or amendment In terms of that angle of water runoff if I understood it correctly So this it sounds like he needs some clarity on what's actually being requested so the grade on each one of the houses so the grade is basically going to if you're looking at Where the rain garden is the houses are going to be up at at such a level that there's going to be positive grade like towards the middle of each house and then headed towards the Culvert or the drainage ditch in the front of the house So it's going to go in between two and three There the drainage is going to go towards that The rain garden three and four it'll go sort of in between three and four and the same on the side of four It'll be like a small swale Everything is you're trying to get all the water to head towards that drainage ditch along Highland Avenue You mean the city-owned property That runs parallel to Highland Terrace is that what you mean? Yes without drainage ditch. Yep. Oh, it's okay. And is that Capable of handling whatever new amount of drainage Would be involved. They didn't want culverts through there. So yes, that's that's the way it was designed so I'm sorry. What's that mean? When my understanding is when this was shown to public works There was not enough coverage over the top of the driveway so they did not want Culverts underneath each one of the driveways and The ditch itself was to be maintained and those driveways will basically be sloped down a little bit It's similar to the houses to the To the south of it. They're done that exact same way. Oh, yeah Now my understanding is there's potential to develop Further lots along Highland Terrace to the north So I I hope the city takes takes Any any future runoff into account. Okay, so now I Have a some understanding of Of the amendment request. I'd like to ask just a general question as long as we're together Are the units? What's the water source well or city well? Well, and yes, I heard and What what what was the background investigating the capacity through the state One on feasibility of the well For the houses instead of city the city said that there was not enough pressure for Them to be put on to the city Service so that my understanding is that was not an option If I could just jump in and that's not a change from the previous approval So the previous approval did review the well the yield capacity in fairly great detail And it was determined that there's plenty of capacity For the proposed wells as they are designed and there's no change with this current application And and that's for this project or projecting projecting. What about the proposed? I don't know how many potentially it would be maybe Maybe three six nine fifteen. I don't know Is that are you folks? taking that into account in terms of the aquifer Well, this project stands alone and the city would be looking at those projects if they were to come in front of us I see. Thank you very much Welcome. Thank you. Mr. Abrams Let me let me let me just ask for one more Question in here. I appreciate your your attention in time Any possibility of accessing the new homes from Heinsberg Road instead of Highland Terrace. I think because all the infill It's it. I mean, it's done all the infill never never took into account An existing 35 year old neighborhood and it's and it's a character And so it would be if the homes go in Certainly in the future it would be As I as my main workspace hours a day are spent Looking west through the window to these areas. It would be real good to access them from Heinsberg Road but Any possibility of that going forward? None The board did consider that option when this project was originally proposed And they determined that that that was not going to work So the original approval, which is not supposed to be changed was to access them off of Heinsberg Highland Terrace What were some of the points? Indicating that it was not feasible. I would be happy to send you the record of that decision Okay, and on this chat thing to give my information I wrote it in the bottom deep Okay, I think Yeah, got it. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much Anyone else any other members of the public who would like to comment? Okay, hearing hearing no other comments, I think what we'll do is take about to close this hearing I'll entertain a motion to do so I'll make a motion to close final part application Thank you I will continue making a motion to close final flat application ST 2208 of B and R developers Inc Thank you, siri given us permission. I will second the motion, but only if siri gives us permission Is there any discussion not for me as siri any discussion about the motion? Okay all in favor of approving the motion say aye Any post the motion is carried. Thank you very much. Thank you Okay our next Application is Item number seven on the agenda. It's a continued site plan application sp 22024 of Beta Air LLC for a portion of the next phase of a previously proved 40.43 acre master plan for 3344,000 square foot manufacturing and office building a 37,800 Squarefoot Pardon me and retail building a 15,600 square foot commercial building and an 85,000 square foot flight instruction in airport use building the project consists of 24,000 square feet of a 24,000 square feet hangar which represents a portion of the 85,000 square feet flight instruction and airport use building at 430 Da Vinci Drive That's a lot of numbers Who is here for the applicant? Hi, this is art Clugo beta technologies. Hi heart anyone else with you Design team and support behind me. Yes. Well, they will they be testifying They may be depending on the questions. All right. Why don't we swear you all in? All right Do you saw only you do do what you saw do you saw me swear to tell the whole truth? The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury. I do okay Thank you. Thank you. Are there any recusals? Oh Yep, I'm rickies You're Stephanie's recused. Okay. Sorry. He didn't raise his hand or say I do he's part of the their team Oh, I'm sorry. What is his name? Joel Yes You need to be sworn in if you're going to testify I do okay Why don't we do that if you're going to testify since we've been through that okay Why don't you give us a three-minute overview of what your project is and what you want to have approval for? Sure, so you did a great job with the summary. It's a 25,000 square foot less than 25,000 square foot Hanger that is mostly hanger. It is a secure building not open to the public generally We are in the second of Second hearing in front of you looking to close the hearing tonight We have a couple of open items that we're hoping to are anticipating Covering and and closing out. I just need to find it here Thank you So we've all read the draft decision and it there are two issues. I think we need to discuss but In addition to the two issues one of which is about the front door and the other one is about the tree caliper Are there any other issues or questions that people on the board have for the applicant? if I may there is one additional issue that we should discuss and that is in the findings of fact and the Decision have to do with the certificate of occupancy and when that can be received and the conditions that are applying to that So that would be condition number 12 or this decision number to condition number 12 and it shows up on page I guess it's page three of the report that went out last week So what is item number two? What is your issue with that? Well, this project is a much smaller project than the a build phase one that we reviewed some I guess once ago at this point, which is fantastic. This project will be completed prior to the assembly facility and the condition as it's proposed says that we may not pursue our certificate of occupancy until the larger building is completed and like to understand why the two projects are linked and how we can separate them so that each project may receive its Certificate of occupancy separately Okay Pardon me. Let's start with that Marla. Do you could you explain the rationale that page? You'll see that this is a condition of the master plan approval The master plan approval has the condition that the roses sidewalks within the blue phase shall be required to be constructed as part of the first phase to obtain a zoning permit so It's not really an issue of the building and I think that Yeah, so I Supposed you're right. I doesn't have to be tied to the building at all. It just needs to be tied to the roads and sidewalks So maybe that can be reworked only refer to the roads and sidewalks within the blue phase have to be completed before Certificate of occupancy of this building Can you hear her? Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah, I was I'm my apologies Marla I was just thinking through the the timing of that and how that may work. I'm happy to work on alternate language I do think we need to look at a plan to make that Happen and certainly welcome the opportunity to work with them yourself and the board Well, so once we close the hearing we can't take additional testimony, so we didn't need to hash it out now, okay? And but I do take your point it doesn't need to be tied to the building that's a good catch So we do have a plan in the packet I believe Did not bring my master plan with me and I don't see a plan No, and there isn't one in the packet either shoot I mean, I would propose the condition is just that the road in the sidewalks in the blue phase shall be constructed prior to the issuance of a spot certificate of occupancy for this application and And I would I guess I would ask for for one caveat there slight change and that would be the the sidewalk and The road be constructed up to Valley Drive Because the construction because the balance of the road may not open until the the building opens So we can't pass through the construction site So as long as that loop and those sidewalks are connected it would seem to meet the intent of what we're trying to do here Sorry, which one is Valley Drive Valley Drive is the road that goes past the Mirbell's building the 3060 Wilson Road building So the new road Da Vinci Drive will intersect at the top of Valley Drive and so for some period of time until we open The entire site it'll be two ways both way We have a condition in the permit that in order for us to open the balance of that road We have to come back and reduce Valley Drive to a one lane Outbound or inbound only and and so we have some sequencing that we need to do there Facing of the work My expectation, but I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea Let me pull up the master plan on my screen and I'll share my screen And see what the board thinks about that idea because I hear what you're saying about not wanting to drive through the construction site So it's gonna take me a minute to pull that master plan up I think she froze again. Yeah, she's frozen. Can you hear us Marla? Does this here I can share something. I don't know if it'll help but you guys are talking about, but let's see Bear with us Is this helpful or no? This was in the packet It it's Yeah, it it's it's helpful. It's it's not the drawing that Marla was looking for. I know which one she was looking for She just texted me and I'll see if I can find it Betsy, I don't know if you can get to that fast just taking a minute to load on my computer I'll try I'll stop sharing this one and I'll see if I can get to it faster Oh, hi, you can pull up the plans for mp2102 Um, and I just got it up so I can pull it up now. So I might Share screen No This one Okay, this gives me a little bit weird picture and picture for a second. Okay, so This building is over here on the left. It's part of the l-shaped building. It's in pink The Roads and sidewalks. This is the non-record drawing. So this shows all the oh actually this is the master plan So it does show all the parking so What art is saying is they would build the road from eagle drive here on the top left of the page down to this point And then this connection here correct That's exactly right We would not do the work marla right there that reduces that throat where they connect from Two lanes down to one lane until after we took down the construction fence and opened up the balance of the road Then we would come back put a temporary fence around that reworked that and have it constructed to the conditions of the decision So board, what are your thoughts? Um going back to the Condition of the master plan the condition of the master plan is the roads and sidewalks within the blue phase shall be required to Be constructed as part of the first phase to obtain a zoning permit So is what art is proposing? adequately compliant with the condition of the master plan Well, we would have to amend the master plan when It it's really just a timing issue That work will be ongoing and mostly complete. It's just that our construction fence Will be up protecting the site from the public until all the work is complete So it's not that we're not doing it. It's just how it gets turned over And being able to since the smaller building will be complete first How do we use the smaller building and not have it sit vacant and and one of the ways that we can do that Is to make sure that we construct the road up to that intersection that marlowe was talking about connected to valley drive So we've met the intent and then the the balance will be opened up After once the uh the balance of the big building is complete Which would be when master plan condition doesn't specifically reference the co It just it says constructed as part of the first phase to obtain a zoning permit to That helps it all I'm fine with that sort of proposed phasing staging Given the uh the master plan construction, you know schedule Is there anyone on the board who who wouldn't be fine with that? well It's it's the same issue we We're discussing in deliberative session the the tension between What might make practical sense and insisting on compliance where we don't have Discretion so if there's a master plan requirement That we're not observing. I don't think we can Simply forego it Without an amendment to the master plan Betsy do you want to bring up the condition of the master plan again page three of the packet? item number two I'm sorry, which one marlowe Page three item number two Oh, yes, sorry Because i'm not sure it's really I don't think it's Ignoring the master plan Yeah, I don't I don't think it is either because I think what it is is all this work is ongoing as part of the phase The first phase of the master plan And it's going to take a certain amount of time to complete it And they want to be able to use the building that they complete and have Correct safe public access too while they finish the other blocks of work That's all taking place under the same phase Okay, and is that is that A little bit on the blind here. I'm talking about a theoretical issue of principle because I don't remember I don't remember the master plan and i'm just trying to determine whether What art is proposing Requires an amendment to the master plan or it sounds like what mark is saying is well, it really doesn't Are you saying it doesn't should be in front of you now?  What what what sex what what paragraph we in number two? The roads are defined somewhere specifically um, and you You're still building part of the road, right? Is what you're Yeah, the roads are defined in two places one here is a reference in the master plan, but then also in the The sd application that was approved four weeks or six weeks ago that shows the blue phase of work that we're undertaking right now So the road that's in question Is being constructed as part of the work that we're doing It's just a timing issue on when the construction fence comes down and allows the general public to use The entire road versus just the first portion Which is the part that marla described a few minutes ago So marla do you believe that a master plan amendment is necessary or not? I do not You do not okay Frank thoughts about that. Well Uh, let me ask you this how long after This particular item we're working on Today is finished will the rest of the blue phase Be the rest of the building for the blue phase be finished It'll likely the the balance of the construction will lag The general aviation hangar in front of you tonight by four to six months So is there A reason you can't is is there a reason you can't do finish the road? Yes, because there's other infrastructure that needs to go in to support the broader The big project that just the timing and the sequencing of that work Doesn't align with when the general aviation hangar will be completed Well that will that infrastructure be completed In time so that within the four to six months, you'll also complete the road. Yes It's really awkward. This is one of the worst cases because in fact, I mean if you ask for a literal reading I Don't see it, but it's ridiculous Well, that's why that's where we come in so I mean I think that It's a reasonable request and it's follow it's it's it's the complexity of construction You know, I think it's trying to write the condition that pertains to the real-world timing of construction is difficult at best and You know, I particularly now, right so How many people do we have voting on this? Six six six. Yeah, Stephanie recused herself Stephanie were keys right. Okay. So so so an abstention wouldn't hurt anything, right? As long as four other three other people besides me thinks it's fine Well, I don't hear anybody else clearing our throat. Well, let me let me ask Quinn and dan Mm-hmm. Pardon me. Do you have any issues? What are your thoughts about what Frank's concern is I don't have strong feelings about one way or the other but Yeah, I I Hear what the concerns but I I don't have any I don't share them and Fine with with moving forward without an amendment. Okay So are you okay if we move on to discuss the other issues Absolutely. Okay. Good So Let's talk and I was not At the hearing on the 21st But I understand there was a quite a bit of conversation about the front door Good conversation. Good conversation. I'm sure So what are your thoughts at this point about Our concern about the front door And how How can we get to yes around that issue? Yeah, that's that's a really good question, especially given the nature of the building That was part of the discussion that we had in the last meeting that This portion of the building while there will be public that will be Inside the building. It's not a public building. It's a secure building There'll be security on all doors including the airside door The public component of the project gets built under the next phase And and with the the changes that the design team specifically Wagner Hudson Did for the site amenities. We feel like the the The description of the standard That's in Where does this come up in the actual language here So under 14.06 the general review standards, which is where this the door question comes into Play here relative to street frontage building placement orientation and pedestrian Orientation in this particular case The guidance that's provided by the paragraph above just below 14.06 As we chatted a little bit About it's intended to provide a framework. It's not a Uh, prescriptive. It's not do x y and z It's think about a b and c And find a way for to meet the intent in a creative Invention and in event innovation Way and we feel like we've done that, especially with the refinement of the site amenity, which now includes the rain garden And a larger It's not a park at park. What are we A snippet And and so we would still advocate for Leaving the door in the place based on the other improvements that we made Following comments from the drb during hearing number one my understanding is Pardon me that no one is asking you to move that door The question is The regulations call for a front facing door Yeah, but the regulations the regulations actually don't call for a front facing door There's not I went and I'm happy to You know if there's a sighting I'm happy to review that and and step back But in all the references that we have the public entrance It says that it's usable and open to the public during business hours Any such door must at a minimum be use Usable and open to the public for entry Distances between an average frequency of public entrances shall be measured per building This is outside the form-based code district So that in the definition of public entrance, it doesn't say that it shall be Street facing for form-based code Absolutely. There's a requirement. It has to be street facing so many doors Or they have to be so many feet apart all of those Pieces would apply here if it was in the form-based code district This is outside of that and so the the design Opportunities are different than the form-based code So um So the they they don't require the LDRs for our project don't require that the The main entrance be on the front of the building um It does provide this kind of unique Unique framework that says establish a consistent orientation We're building a new road and we're establishing the orientation as we march along DaVinci drive in the projects that Have been before you and the others that are planned So we're creating this as we go um There was some reference that that the entrance was Car oriented when we would say that it is Truly pedestrian oriented in the way that the the rain garden the interplay between the rain garden The snippet park and the sidewalks now all come together It's very pedestrian oriented and it's a nice space to come and hang out and even though it's not intended to be a Public building so when you go through the criteria and you match them up with the design that's been presented We would suggest that the The door as it's currently conceived Is doing what the broader land development regulations are asking us to do Thank you Milo, what are your thoughts about that? So you have the staff report The or sorry the draft staff decision 1406 a talks about You know the standards that we're all comfortable with the variable transition from structure to site The new standards are street frontage Building placement and orientation maintaining and establishing consistent orientation to the street Pedestrian orientation Transition contrast and scale which is not an issue here So, you know the staff report kind of summarizes what you guys talked about both pluses and minuses and It's really up to you if if the board feels that in order to be oriented to the street, which is b Um, and this is under the the drb shall consider the following If in order to Maintain or establish a consistent orientation to the street They need a door facing the front and they need a door facing the front if you feel like they Achieve that without a door facing the front then they don't need a door facing the front Given that the snippet park Is along the street And that is the way that people would walk into the building Could it be argued that the snippet park is what needs to be front facing? And not the door. So why don't you pull up page 20 of the packet and we can take a look at that? That's a great question I have a quick question marlon. I may I'm sorry. I haven't read reread. I read the new regulations but the parking to the side of the building is well, it's partially to the side and partially not I mean That's not an issue, right It's not no because the parking to the side of the building is relative to a public street And so this is the side relative to the public street because this building is on a private street yeah I mean, I'll throw my two cents in here. I I still feel it's very car oriented. I get it. It's not a public street, but you know The first thing you do is you drive into the parking lot And where this where this a public road would be We'd be saying gee isn't that car oriented still I still maintain its car oriented oriented And I guess Yeah, there's it doesn't require it is not the form-based code district. So I just it's It's hard because where this is this is the new regs We've got this language here. So if we are if we do say We have to be careful about this because whatever we do here sets the pattern for other applicants down the road What what constant let me finish our yeah. Yeah, what constitutes pedestrian orientation? Yeah, so okay Yeah, two follow-ups to that dan. Um, the placement of the door will not change how people Park their cars and and walk to the building The parking will still come off of the the eagle drive they'll still walk from their car onto the The snippet park and then enter the building and Whether the door moves From this current location to the front of the building that sequence that arrival sequence won't change the the piece about the precedent which we understand the It could be argued that because these The way the language in the regs are written. It's relative to each individual street Not that everybody gets to use DaVinci drive and how those are laid out The the buildings there are laid out to argue for some other street In some other neighborhood or location in south brillington I'm not trying to understand that but I'm just seeing that crosswalk and You know on the on the southerly drive. I guess that's DaVinci the area Um so I The door may seem superfluous given the operations. It's just Right now Especially because I'm not I'm not seeing a sidewalk that leads in Is I'm not seeing a sidewalk that leads into the parking lot nor a sidewalk Along the edge of the parking lot or something where people would if they were walking The the the standard is pedestrian No, you froze for a minute Yeah, no, you're you're right when we did this vignette Dan we cut it short the the sidewalk is off to the to the right and it has to be a certain distance from the intersection The way that this was written put together So there is a sidewalk there if we brought up a different plan from the previous packet You would see how close it is to the to the park here Um and and the rain garden It just happens to be off slightly to the right Okay, board Other comments questions. I was under the impression. There was an express requirement That the door be front facing and I I think art is correcting that Impression and I don't hear any pushback from Marlowe on the point. So my view is I don't care about the door You're referring to his comment that because it's not in the Form misco district It doesn't have to be on the front Well Exactly Well, I think it's a argument also is that a door on the front isn't the only thing that makes a building have pedestrian frontage or you know positivity, I mean I I my opinion hasn't changed since the last meeting that I think if we stick a door in the front of the building, it's just to check off a box and we've talked about whether or not That's important. I don't think that's important here because The way the site is laid out and the way the future phases are laid out The door on the front of the building is not an important criteria for how this building is used compared to when the Next phase of the building is built which is going to have a prominent front door for pedestrian access So and I agree with that completely my only concern had been if it's black letter I don't you know, we we always have the precedent issue. We always have the But I don't think we have that here so I don't look at every application on a case-by-case basis So marla is is is this um, can you live with this? I know it's our decision I guess the only thing I would say is you know, don't rely on future buildings, right because that's Future building is I still think even without the future building this building doesn't need the the front door because it's not meant to be like an open to the public Door public can't access it, but it's not like it's a retail space. It's not like it's, you know, it doesn't have to be welcoming right Well, and I think Dan's point is very well taken that the standard is pedestrian orientation not Front door. Yeah, so pedestrian orientation typically means A door facing the front but having the park facing the front Could be a way to achieve that. Betsy if you go to page 24 you can kind of see how the sidewalk lays out a little bit better Yeah, and I just wanted to Just weigh in on the discussion. I would agree on the The the update we've seen with the The rain garden and that amenity in place I do think that achieves the more pedestrian orientation Goal of of that standard and I think our discussion around precedent previously was um to Marlon Dan's point of pedestrian oriented oriented one of the ways that happens Kind of standardly is a door on the front but I think what has been presented to us here is an improvement and is more Pedestrian oriented based on based on those improvements. So Okay, are we ready to move on from the door issue? Okay All right, let's talk about the caliper of the tree issue The regs call for 2.5 inch caliper And They do and um, I think and Jeff I think he's here. You want to come on up? He talked or spoke to this really well last time I think you want to give the board an opportunity to say their piece and thank you agreed So board What have we got to say about this? What was I wasn't here. So what was what was the concern? What was the discussion? Can anyone summarize it? Concern was that it's trees says 2.5 inches. They were proposing two inches They did say it's difficult to find two inches and the city arborist said he was fine with the two inches And I kind of my opinion on this hasn't changed that it's not part of the Shade tree requirement street tree requirement. It's a decorative ornamental Trub It's kind of a Cross it's somewhere between a large shrub and a small tree Trub in the way I think we can cut it short because I think Mark's redefinition which we're hearing repeated here publicly and we've had a chance to hear it before It's kind of persuading everybody. So I think we ought to just with all respects are Go maybe go with yes, you know And leave it to the board see if there's somebody on the board who's in a no position And if not, let's Let sleeping dogs lie Well that you know The existing dogs lie Okay, anybody having a hard time with the with the two inch shrub Let's show that issue the door to the door to the door to the drug Okay, thank you very much You were very persuasive I do have one question We did ask for you to look at alternatives. Did you do that? I'm sorry alternatives for the tree the tree the the lady who was sitting back there said Something about can't she would talk and see what was available. I'm just curious if you yeah I mean we we didn't really because it's it's meant as kind of a not really a shade tree It's meant as kind of a ornamental tree. So okay, fair enough. Thank you Anything else? Let me ask if there's public comment. Are there any members of the public who would like to comment? Seeing none I'd entertain a motion to close the hearing. I just have one question. Sure And I guess it's more for marla marla. Do you do you have the information you need? for condition number 12 to be modified per the The comments and requests for phasing of it and the board's acceptance of that Yeah, I'll drop it and I'll have it ready for you with the next hearing Okay And if need be if there's a supplemental piece of material that needs to be submitted in that 30 day window We're happy to do so to clarify that as well. Yeah, we can't accept any information after hearing you've closed Fair enough. Okay. Thank you. I'm comfortable. Okay. Um a motion I'll make a motion that we close site plan application sp22024 of beta error llc Second second. Okay. Great. Any discussion? Okay, all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Upstate. Aye. The motion is carried. Thank you. I do have one more item for the board. It's been a long 12 months and we really appreciate all the work that everybody's done. We're making fantastic progress on the construction out there We started pouring concrete and in the next 30 days, we'll start to see steel go up I know you all can't come out at once without warning a meeting But certainly would welcome the opportunity to let you tour the site if that's something that's of interest to see Where all that hard work went? We might take you up on that. Awesome. Okay. Thank you. Thanks heart Okay We have some minutes to approve And I was not at the meeting on the 21st Um But we can approve them in one fell swoop if someone would like to do that So anyone have any comments about anything in the minutes? Nope All right. Shall I move that we approve the minutes of april 25th june 7th and june 21st So just june 7th june and april 25th. There's no june 21st available. Okay. That's what I haven't read them Second all in favor I opposed All right Okay, any other business Are the any of the draft decisions such that we want to Go into deliberative to close them out or do we do you have stuff you need to do to each one of the marlott? Um, I would also ask What marlott's energy energy level is to I'm just wondering if there's any Yeah, we're relatively early. So I'm good. Um, if you Want to do a deliberation? um, I guess what we did last time is We have to plug in the computer Take the take the hdmi out of the computer and are out of the the um screen and plug it into betty's computer directly In order to make that work. Let me ask you this are any of them timely with the applicants I mean everybody always wants their approval as fast as possible, but I think that Um, I mean we would love to see what? Let's get them done if we can you can't talk well So that one's not going to slow it down. Yeah, I said yes. I'm ready I'm sorry dan I just said if I mean just because we ended so early if there's something we can knock out, you know, let's do it But any of the marlott's worked hard already are any of them that had no comments or changes to the draft decision Yeah, the miscellaneous had no comments. Um, the The curwin one unfortunately did or brian brian pre courts did so He has changes to it Yeah, because I had to change. I mean it wasn't major, but I had to change the language about the um height Oh, right.  So can we do the miscellaneous? Sure. Champlain school apartments. Yep Okay, well you were still recording and I'm going to Leave as well if that's the case Stop recording as well No, you don't have to close the meeting what you have to do bet see is you have to lock the meeting Um, and I don't think anyone is on that isn't That doesn't belong so if you just lock the meeting Then you're fine. You don't have to kick anybody off and actually you can just stay presenting the way you are It's one of the options


Good morning everybody. Thank you for being here. You know, as they say in the movie Draft Day, we're having a great day here in Columbia, South Carolina. I'm so excited as we continue to move forward in investing in our community, investing in our city, and today we're proud to announce the director of our Office of Violence Prevention. As you know, we went through a process so that we could find the right candidate to join us in in this effort to reduce violence. We're so thrilled to introduce our new director of Office of Violence Prevention, Trevon Forum. He is right behind me right here, well right beside me. Trevon only brings a wealth of experience in his background in juvenile justice, public safety, program management, grant administration, training and development, but he specialized in training in trauma, leadership development, SC Dare, and as a certified peer mentor, mediator, excuse me. His rich expertise and a unique perspective, he's equipped to use the tools like evidence-based initiatives, community-based strategies, program development aimed at effectively reducing violent crime here in Columbia. He's dedicated his career to advancing violence in South Carolina, and he'll be dedicated to work with everyone and anyone who has an interest to make Columbia a safer place to live, work, and raise a family. As you know, the function of this office is to take advantage of the many violent reduction resources in Columbia, the grassroots organizations, some of them represented here today, and others out in our community working hard today to curb violence in our community. Trevon can coordinate with these pre-existing resources, law enforcement, government officials to effectively and efficiently combat violence. This office will function as a one-stop shop for violence reduction resources, and will remove duplicacy and efforts by identifying our current resources and creating an overall strategy to eliminate violence as a whole in our community. We've started collecting data. Thank you, Lieutenant. Cannon is here who has been working along with our ceasefire folks and gathering the information to provide transparency and reporting, recognize and how we should focus our efforts to reach our desired outcome. Today is just the beginning. With our director, we can be in coordinating and creating processes to choose, fund, implement, track efforts to identify the people, the places and behaviors associated with violence in our community. Once we've completed that, we'll take that information and implement the prevention, intervention, and obviously law enforcement measures as we've talked about, address drug abuse, CPT services, assisting, housing assistance, addressing mental health concerns, working with our pathway units and our other organizations to get into the deep root of the cause of violence in our community. But we cannot do that alone. And that's why we needed a quarterback because the team will can accomplish that. And that team is community. That is our schools. That's our churches. That's our business community. That's our neighborhood leaders. But that's also our state, local and federal officials, along with law enforcement, our sheriff's department, our police department, public service, public works in all the city from parks and wrecks and on. This is a team effort. And as we plan to combat and do everything we can to reduce violence in general, we started this off, it was gun violence. And gun violence was the projector that got us focused on this and the need for this office. But violence as a whole has risen domestic violence as well, unfortunately. So we'll be focused very hard and dear using our resources, our expertise, our city departments, and our friends, partners and community partnerships to address this issue once and for all. And with that, I'd like for everybody to give a hand and welcome Trevon for our new director. Well, good morning, everybody. God, I'm truly thankful for this opportunity. As Mr. Mayor said, it truly is a great day only here in South Carolina, but in the city of Columbia, I would like to say thank you as well to city manager Wilson, to Mr. Mayor, up here over there earlier, to all of the council members that are here today, to city administration, to first responders, law enforcement partners, to everybody that's here today. Thank you for being here today. It's truly an honor to be tabbed as far as with this office and kind of starting it from the ground. I want each of you to know that I'm a man of few words, but more about action. So we are ready to hit the ground running and understand and realize that there's a lot of work to be done. And over time, we're looking forward to making our impacts to make our city the best it can be. But Charleston native, but Columbia has been home for me for the past 14, 15 years. So Columbia is home to me.  You know, so I'm very passionate about the city, which drew me to this position based on my prior experiences in law enforcement, program management, and so many other different fields. Throughout all of my various roles that I've had over the last years, all of them have been a shared experience of helping others, working with community partners, working with law enforcement partners, working with government agencies to make sure that we are getting the best out of our communities. And that's what I strive to continue to do here in this role in this position for this office. Our city, this city is the capital city of South Carolina, right? So we want to make sure that our city continues to advance and continue that we're putting in the work, working together between our, again, our government agencies, our community based organizations, our residents to all work together to make this and continue to make our city safe and better for everyone to live, work and play. I'm a public servant to my core. It's who I am. It's what I do. Helping others, working with others to make situations better. It's what I do. It's who I am through mentoring, through working with different guy right initiatives. That's who I am. So that's what I'm going to strive to continue to be and do in this role. In working with community partners, we plan to, as the mayor laid out, take a very comprehensive and holistic approach. It's not one, it's not going to be one that's going to be heavily based on any one factor because we know that crime is not caused or started by any one factor. It's going to take a very comprehensive approach, looking at different services from transitional housing to mental health, working with law enforcement partners and really seeing how we can identify gaps, streamline those efforts and really, as the mayor said, be a quarterback to really get the team together and keep the team rolling. So, again, that's kind of all that I have. Not going to go through all of the notes. I'm ready to get to work. I understand there are going to be challenges. I realized that we got some work ahead of us, but I know in order for us to combat violent crime in the city of Columbia, it's going to take a collaborative approach of us all working together. Today, we're here introducing me as an individual for the director of the position, but I can assure you that not one person individually by himself will be able to tackle violent crime. It's going to take all of us working together at the local government level. We're going to list the help of our partners at the state level and federal level. Again, all of our community partners that are willing to engage in work, we are going to bring everybody to the table to make this city the safest and the best can be for all of our citizens. And that's our goal. And that's my pledge to you as the director of the Office of Violent Crime Prevention. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to ask the chief to come out and say a few words, please. Thank you, Mayor. Mr. Fordham, welcome. We've got got some work to do. I had the privilege of participating in the interview process for this position. And I can say with certainty that Mr. Fordham has a very accomplished career. We're very excited to see him take this new. We, you know, we've put so much emphasis on our law enforcement approach and our strategies and we're very grounded with evidence based practices. I foresee him working very closely with our analysts and our ceasefire coordinator as we again, as we work collaboratively to address our gun violence and overall violent issues in our city. But I think this really creates an incredible opportunity that we just have not had at our disposal. This is a best practice that we're seeing in a lot of major cities and larger municipalities. I think it is an opportunity to coordinate with our many stakeholders and groups that have interest in being part of this solution. We've had some recently, we've had some very promising conversations with the NAACP. I think with our faith community, with many of our service providers, and, you know, I think for us to be successful, we've got to continue to break silos down and get people pulling in the exact same direction very similar to what we've done with our homeless strategies. And I think he is the perfect selection for that. And we are very excited to work very closely with him and the mayor's office to bring solutions to this problem. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. City Manager Wilson. You know, all that needs to be said has been said, I really wasn't planning to speak. But Trevon knows that when he interviewed and subsequently got the position, one thing I said to him because I think I can definitely say this is when I came to the city 16 years ago, I came into a position that was newly created. And when that happens, you bring a different perspective. I wasn't a product of local government, but I have learned so much and grown in my role. So if there's any indication of what you can do and what you can accomplish and what you can impact when you bring the heart for service, which he certainly has, and the intentionality of this council, this mayor and this council to begin to put creative solutions in place and allow us to bring experts in the field to really focus and quarterback issues on a daily basis is tremendous. You know, as practitioners, you don't always find that the policymakers understand that and this this council certainly does from homeless services to now violent crime prevention efforts. It takes sometimes others bring that perspective to bear on a daily basis so that the police chief can continue to do what he does best, or I can continue to do what I do best, give a little guidance and direction, but know that we've got people on the team who are going to be working on these efforts every single day. So we're so appreciative to city council. We're very fortunate and grateful for Travon's expertise. And you will do a great job. Your spirit is there. So that's all that really ultimately matters. So welcome. Well, thank you. So with that, we'll open it up for any questions. So right now we're still in the development of stages of what that organization will look like moving forward. Again, we're day two of my tenure here. But as we move forward, we're looking at really personnel in the office, not just from different streams, but also as far as increasing grant administration grant funding, going after federal grants to increase personnel as well. So right now we're definitely having discussions about as far as personnel moving forward. So as a former police officer, you know, we talk about violent crime, we're talking about shootings, of course, you can see a lot of high numbers when it comes to shootings. With the city as far as non fatal shootings and homicides and different things like that. So numbers as far as nationally, not just in the city of Columbia, violent crime is actually decreasing, right? So even as we're seeing numbers that may be going up for shootings in general, those are the things that we definitely have to work on as far as just firearms in the hands of individuals and those are things we're going to work on. But to the first part of that question, when you talk about what successful look like, we're going to put together a very comprehensive plan to where we want to not only reduce crime, but we want to put together an infrastructure for prevention and intervention. So that way as we move forward, not just this year, but in years to come, we can have those marks to really say what success will look like. I just want to add to that, Chris, that that success also would be that none of the stations here would have to to lead with a bleed. That'd be success. Yeah. Again, anytime you're talking about planning and action planning, we're going to set timelines. We're going to get together and put together a comprehensive plan that will lay out what the timelines are. Does that mean that there may not be a shooting tomorrow because we have a timeline? No. So what we're going to do is we're going to look at our short term, our long term goals. We're going to put a plan together that not only looks at what we want to do this year, but looks for the years to come because we want to have success and sustainability. So again, it is our hope in our goal that we are reducing shootings and violent crime in general, but all of that's going to be in time. One of the things that I would love to see happen, and obviously this is day one. So we have to give Mr. Fordham the opportunity to work with internal city partners. We have an amazing analyst in the Columbia Police Department, a team of folks who know the data. I think for the public standpoint, I think what he's getting at about prevention and intervention, once he gets down to the business of the work with preventative measures, intervention with young people and a dashboard to show as those measures are being put in place, how that interacts with the data we already have from the police department and to maybe see where some connections are that are making a difference. So that's the intentionality behind the position he just got here. So we've got to build the infrastructure right and give him that opportunity to work with a lot of folks that we do have at our disposal and set though that infrastructure up so that community and the public can see the benefit of having someone quarterbacking this on a day to day basis. Well, again, as we talk about violent crimes, it does extend past shootings, right? So you're also talking about domestic violence. You're also talking about armed robberies, all these different things. So again, we're going to look at the data. We're going to base it on the data we have available, the dashboards through the police department, and that's what we're going to work with. So I think it's apparent from being here today. We definitely got to hit the ground running. We're going to be out. We're going to be active. We're going to collaborate and work with the existing efforts that are already there. Again, as far as violent crime prevention, it's not new to the city of Columbia. There are efforts that are already there. This position in this office is going to streamline those and really make sure that we can kind of have those efforts kind of pulled together. So within the first 30 days, really, as far as getting acclimated into this office, but also as far as getting out there, being visible, setting up meetings with community stakeholders as well, which starts tonight. Right? Yeah. So there's a meet and greet at six o'clock, Lisa, six o'clock at the Busby Street Community Center, which a number of our partners utilize that facility. It is immersed in our community, immersed in, you know, areas of where impact is truly needed. So we really welcome community to come out tonight to meet with Mayor Rickerman and Council and meet Travon personally so that he can begin to reestablish and streamline, as he said, but also relationship build. That's so important for him to make those connections with community partners starting tonight. And I just want to add, just as we've done with the Rapid Shelter, we're sharing all the information. We want accountability. We want to have the ability that we put milestones in the ground. We got accountability measures that we hold ourselves, the office, and the community together on and sharing that information, showing the progress. We're not just going to publish something. Hey, we did this. No, we're going to have actual numbers and be part of that. Part of setting the strategic plan over the next 30 days is so that we set goals that we can go and hold ourselves accountable. And this this effort has an opportunity to change the dynamics in our community. We don't want 18 percent increase in gun violence. We also have to be very creative as we find the gaps. And that may be legislative. That may be law enforcement. I think what Travon has said very clearly, prevention and intervention is the first two steps. If you heard the six steps, we know the people, we know the places, we know the behavior. But the prevention and intervention are the pieces that we got to funnel together and make sure we have that impact and we know where those impacts are. Law enforcement is the last piece, but the government pieces is there. We can't forget that we got to continue to work with our legislators on bail reform. We can't continue to have people out repeating the same crime because if there's no penalty out there, there's no deterrent. But we also have to make sure that we're dealing with the housing issues, the quality of life issues, making sure that we're dealing with public safety is not just law enforcement and this. It's it's it's lighting, it's sidewalks, it's roads, it's healthy neighborhoods, it's the ability to get the services that you need in your community. So this is a holistic approach that's going to take all the way to the city. We just got a quarterback, but we got a hell of a team up here. Anybody else? Thank you. Thank y'all for being here. This is an introduction.