Hi, welcome to theCUBE. I'm Lisa Martin, and we are on the ground at Google with CloudNow, which is a nonprofit organization of leading women in cloud computing and converging technologies. And I'm very excited to be joined by one of the keynotes. I should mention we're at their fifth annual top women in cloud innovations awards events. Joining us right now is Milan Thompson Bukovec, who is one of the keynotes tonight. Milan, you are one of the, you are the vice president, rather, of Amazon S3 and one of the keynotes for tonight. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you very much. This is your third time on theCUBE, so welcome back to theCUBE, I should say. It's great to be here. Talk to us a little bit about your involvement with CloudNow and what the audience heard tonight in your keynote. Well, CloudNow, I have a ton of respect for them, because what they're really trying to do is they're trying to bring the stories of different women across different technology sectors, and they're trying to bring them together for people to learn from. Today we had the theme of innovation, so my topic was how to cultivate innovation as a skill. And my main focus was to make sure that people understand that you're just not born with innovation. It's something that you develop over time, and the way to develop it is to experiment, to learn, and to keep iterating, and that is a philosophy that we hold very dear at Amazon Web Services. That's a great, inspiring message, so you're right, we're not born with innovation. When you talk to younger women who maybe are early in their tech careers, or some that might be at some crossroads, what are some of the points of advice, or maybe that philosophy, that you share with them to help them understand you're not born with this? What's been your path to being an innovator at Amazon and as a female in tech? I think the most important thing that I try to tell people of all ages, and these are men and women, is don't put yourself in a box. If you are good today at something, don't tell yourself over and over again the thing that I'm good at is fixing problems. The thing that I'm good at is overcoming obstacles. The thing that I'm good at is making teams work. That's great, continue to be good at that. But the more you say that, the more you can unconsciously say what you're not good at. Oh, I'm not the big thinker. I'm not the idea person. And when you do that, you're just putting yourself in this box, and that box will get smaller and smaller as you get more experienced. And so what I tell folks at any stage of their career is don't put yourself in that box. It is good to have the skills that you've developed over the last two, three, and number of years, but go take a chance and try something new. Be the leader of a new initiative. Get out of your domain and try something that is outside of your expertise. And you will learn something and you will expand what you know. And before you know it, you'll be saying, I'm good at that. I'm good at thinking up new ideas and making them happen. And you would not get there if you didn't tell yourself I gotta go try it. And I gotta try it enough and do it often enough to be better at it. I don't have a tech degree. My degree is from UCSD. I have a creative writing and US history degree. Oh, fantastic. How did you get where you are now then? Well, for me it was logical in my head. So let me walk through it with you. Absolutely. So I got out of college and I went into the Peace Corps. I went to Northern Mali. Wow, fantastic. And I was a forestry volunteer in Northern Mali. There weren't very many trees. So most of my projects were involved with getting money microloans like Kiva, another keynote from today's event. And I raised sheep and I worked with women's cooperatives. And the thing that I noticed in Northern Africa was that technology made all the difference in people's lives. And that technology could be as simple as having a bicycle or it could be as impactful as having a satellite phone. And if you looked around the villages in which I worked, the families that had even the smallest edge of technology had an enormous advantage that lasted over generations. Wow. So when I came back to the US, I was like, you know, I'm gonna get involved in technology because what technology does is it transforms people's lives. Absolutely. And so when I did that, I started working at Microsoft. I went back and I took programming classes at the University of Washington on nights and weekends. And I got a technology backbone that I lacked from my undergrad career. And I threw myself into some of the most hardcore server technologies because I was curious and I wanted to learn. And I didn't think I am in a box because of my background. I thought, what am I excited about? And what do I wanna evolve my understanding of how technology can make people's lives better? And then I just followed that path. What a great story that you really, it was life experiences that led you to where you are. And I like how you talk about don't put yourself in a box. One of my favorite sayings is a goal isn't worth having if it doesn't make you a little nervous. Try things. You never know how great you can be. Mylon, thank you so much for being on theCUBE. Third time lucky. It's been a pleasure to have you here. And I'm sure that the attendees of Cloud Now we're so thrilled to hear your keynotes. Thanks for having me. And if you know a woman that should be featured on our Women in Tech program and are filmed in our Palo Alto studios, please tweet us at theCUBE, hashtag women in tech. I'm Lisa Martin. You've been watching theCUBE. Thanks for joining us.


I haven't had time to look listen to this album much it's nothing's really jumping out of We are live. We are live on the metal voice Wow here. We go Metallica releases their new album 72 seasons. It's gonna be released tonight midnight April the 14th listening parties all around the world People are super excited and here we are. We're gonna take this album apart go track by track very very quickly Each song we're gonna tell you what our thoughts are and then our overall impressions Of this album. It's been six years since hardwired That's mental isn't it? You mean a child could have been born and would have been in school a year in that time It's like it doesn't even feel like that long. Yeah crazy. That's how Metallica works. That's how the Metallica machine works now This is what I did I listened to this album For perspective then I listened to this album for perspective sort of like, you know The last album plus way way the beginning and then I listened to this album a few times and look What's that? You forgot what ride the lightning sounded like just so it's just totally you know, man Put it on the band has changed Yeah So 72 seasons the the theme of it is until you're 18 years old you have this sort of childhood Prison that you're trying to break out after 18 years old in some ways you can some ways you can't that's the very loose Concept of the album or something like it Guys, we're gonna go track by track so everybody and you everybody out there who's watching you can kind of sort of chime in saying If you've heard it, maybe you have it Maybe you have some parts of the world already, you know Zealand New Zealand and Australia They already have copies of these albums there. They're buying them, you know hard copies in the stores You know, so anywhere it's past midnight. It is available on your streaming service and in record stores Yeah, okay, so we'll start off with the first song which we all know start with Giles Look, we're gonna go through the songs. We're not gonna spend hours here talking about each song But you know in one one set one or two sentences. What did you think about 72 seasons? We've heard this one already, haven't we? This was one of the singles starts off pretty You know, there's still a thrash band as they like to demonstrate from you know song to song You know, I mean it's so this album is so fresh. It's hard to kind of get too many impressions of it at this point That's a really good powerful song a good hook Good riff actually really strong riff Definitely one of the heavier tracks of the record and a great opener Yeah, Karen Yeah, I agree I've said it when we've reviewed other albums that I hate it when the opening track of the album Doesn't really represent the album very well, and I think 72 seasons does represent the album. Well, it really sets the tone for the album It's a punchy opener It is a catchy groove the riff is very much in the hard wire and death hardwired and death magnetic vein But like I said, I love when you listen to the first track and it gives you a good sense of what you're gonna get on the rest Of the record and this does that there's there's no false advertising here And I feel like these days sometimes we get some false advertising either with the lead-off track of the album or the first single but 72 seasons is a good representative of 72 seasons. I'm just gonna add I like to get tar-selled a lot I mean, yeah, sure. It's a mix between hardwired and Ride the lightning because there's a lot of chugging going on there and it's a thrash song like Giles said It's a real it's it's you know, I think they're starting off on the right foot on this song So that's all I'm gonna say on this which is which is better than stuff Which is better than starting off on the wrong foot. Exactly.  All right second track, which is a new song that many people have and may not have heard shadows follow written by James and Lars Clock sent in about six minutes and 12 seconds. What'd you think Giles? Will them all a little more melodic still heavy still powerful again It's really hard to kind of get into the details of these songs. I put the open You know one time today already, you know made some notes a little more melodic. Um Not really here in like a chorus hook kind of jumping out. It's gonna take a few more listens. Maybe this one Kind of me and there's a wee bit And I don't mean that in a super negative way. I just mean there isn't really like that big kind of You know Entonide exit light kind of hook, you know, it's just it's just kind of there Not a laser and Giles a little bit, but it may turn into a barker later. Who knows? All right, Perrin Yeah, the note I took this might be one of the growers on the record you know, there's 12 songs on the record and It just so happens that there's four of them that I loved for them that I liked and for them that I'm like I'm reserving judgment or they're just okay And this is one of those songs and I have to say since it's only the second song on the record and the first one We hadn't heard yet. It worried me a little bit saying Yeah, and you know, I think I think James does a good job in it There's a couple soulful verses, but I really like what he did with his voice But I thought like the solo and just the instrumentation the music in general was kind of same same what we've heard on the last couple records So, you know, the four advanced tracks made me really look forward to this record And this first one that we haven't heard made me say, oh man, I hope it's more than just the first four tracks We already heard because this one's kind of Just okay Well, you know what? I think I enjoyed it and you guys pointed out some cool stuff The instrumental part of it is really good. It's a real thrash song Reminds me of a master of puppets ride the lightning vibe cool. Wawa solo, you know Well, every solo is pretty much a wawa solos, but to Giles's point you're listening to the song You're enjoying the song, but after it's over. You can't remember the song Like there's no hook that there's nothing there to say, you know what? I'm gonna hum this song later on today But I really did enjoy the sort of a thrash portion of the song But it is quite generic and I think that's the word But I'd still put it like at at an eight out of ten because as I listened to it I enjoyed it. So I don't know that makes sense That's like like I said for me I made an a list a b-list and a c-list for this record and this one was on the c-list Go ahead a B or C. What do you think on this song? I'm sorry. Well, this is probably a C for me because I again, I'm just It's it's just kind of laying there and growling at me. It's not really biting me. I I We're talking about shadows follows still, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes. You know, I know it's late there No, no, I'm good. I know you're thinking about the warlord stuff, but we got to talk about I'm looking at my tracklist in here. I wasn't sure we've moved on yet. I'm not yes Yeah, I mean, I'm looking I'm looking for the hook and shadows follow and I'm not quite It's not quite grabbing me yet. It's a decent track, but Probably if I had an a b or c-list, this would be on the c-list. All right. So screaming suicide to third track Oh my god, Robert to Julio is actually participating on a writing credit here So what'd you guys think of this Charles? What'd you think of it? Back to kind of what the opening track is kind of you know grab really grabs you it's it's it's heavy James sounds, you know angry Definitely he's got some really good vocals on this record actually and he sounds very full of intent on this song and this is a Definitely this one definitely shakes you up this one heavy powerful Probably an open highlight actually for me. Wow, okay Yeah, it's like I said on my abc list. We've already heard this one. It's on the top of my b-list. So I like it a lot Bluezy intro. I like the riff, you know, I'll say this Metallica has become more of a riff band than like a solo band like Metallica is really like a band of riffs and you're gonna like the Main riff in the song or you're not This Kirk solos and we'll talk about this later. Maybe it could be kind of little hit or miss Miss quite a bit for me if I'm honest about it, but I like I like the riff. So, you know Heavy one Yep, so I mean like I said, this was at the top of my b-list. We've heard the track before Like I said, my a-list is great. My b-list is good or very good and my c-list is just okay. Nothing is bad on this record I don't find anything bad So this is kind of you know out of 12 tracks. It's maybe like my fifth or sixth favorite so good But there there's some better stuff to come So I'll add to more some stuff that you guys didn't talk about. I think there's a lot of intricate Time changes or little intricate stuff going on which I commend the band You know, you hear a little little stuff like this little quick little tempo changes and it changes back You know, it's got an interesting sort of song structure. It's not your typical verse chorus verse chorus fade guitar solo And whatever the case maybe it's not typical. It's it's all over the map. There's a bit of spoken word in the middle I think this is more of a deep track. I did enjoy it. It would kind of be in my b to a-list But again after it was done. I kind of don't remember it Right, I did like the beginning and add that little bass line going on at the beginning You know, it's cool and you go wow, there's gonna be something different, but then it just kind of becomes the same But I as it's playing I did like it and maybe I'll grow to like it even more in the future. I don't know That's about it on that one track four A sleepwalk my life away, Giles You really have a whole lot again. This one didn't leave a huge impression on me actually Again, I kind of what how you described just a moment ago. I got to the end of it and I couldn't really retain it I'm not kind of going I kept listening to that one again and then I still couldn't really Again, it didn't really have a sick. I don't sound like a broken record I really had that signature hook in it where I go. Oh, yeah, that one, you know, I'm kind of like, okay It's another open track cool cool cool and that's how I thought about this one. I mean, it's it's not it's it's just a good A good song. It's not a great song. I guess is how I put it This is an interesting one because the first minute of the song the intro of this song is Like nothing we've heard yet on the album or like nothing on hard wire or death magnetic It's kind of Lars and Robert are really locked in. Sorry, I mixed that up I said that on the last song I meant it on this song. Okay. Well, so then we read the bait It's the baseline that I was talking about. Yeah, so the base and Lars are really locked in It's almost like a creeping death kind of vibe at the start Rolling the first minute. So it caught my attention. I'm like, all right. This is different This is even like old Metallica, but then after that first minute of that intro, they kind of just go back into Death magnetic hardwired and now 72 seasons Sounding stuff. So I was at first very excited. I'm like, oh, this is going to be on my A list And it wound up being on my C list because I felt like they had this great thing going on And then they just then they just went back into what is now their safe comfortable zone So, you know first four tracks. I'm like, okay, 72 seasons is a list screaming suicide is B list But we've already heard those two and now to the tracks I haven't heard are on my C list So I'm really saying, uh-oh, you know, because and again, I loved the intro But I just feel like they dropped the ball on this one after the intro They could have done so much more with the song or the chorus and the solo are just Blop, you know, but I'm with you parent and this is the intro I'm talking about the baseline intro. I loved it. And then it just falls to pieces in a sense, right? This is like my worst rated track Again, Robert's got a writing credit on this. I think they bastardized the riff to enter Sandman on this It's kind of like, what does that sound like enter Sandman that riff? It's like, did I hear that before? Yeah, it's on my C list, but it's not my worst one just because I, you know, like I said, the intro is really cool There's other stuff that I don't like as much, but yeah, it's not, like I said, I divided it into four, four and four So it's in my bottom four Dan Vier is saying a parent that backdrop is hurting my eyes too much yellow Yeah, I know, man Hey, if you're like Striper, then this really shouldn't bother you Yes, I think I mean, I've heard some criticism about the open cover, but I think it's really eye catching It's like, I kind of miss the days when an open cover would just reach out and kind of grab you and that does Be it because it's horribly canary yellow obnoxious or because it's awesome, but it really does It's like it just jumps off the, whatever, off iTunes, it can be that big and it will grab you, you know John, somebody I know changed the background color from canary yellow or taxicab yellow to like a burnt orange And it looks so much cooler, kind of like the orange and the holy diver poster before you And it's like, Matt, I wish somebody would have told them to do that, it looked way It looks like black and yellow and licorice Yeah, but I mean, it does stand out I mean, if you were in the maze There's standout that's like Dio and back of you, right? There's standout that way And then there's just standout for the sake of standing out I think that's the category it falls into, right? I quite like the cover, I like the concept as well. I think it looks good Yeah, the concept is cool, but look It's better than the dance of death cover Yes, that's true If this was the days of the record store Guys, so if this were the days of when you went to a record store You really needed an eye catching cover for like a kid to pick it up It is an eye catching cover, so if we were in the day where more physical media was being consumed It would be a really great idea, but whatever I think Metallica likes to be talked about, and you know, it's something else to talk about I agree, but I look at Dio's album, Artwork, and I go, wow, you know, that speaks to me And I see this one, and I'm like Well, I mean, it's a difference between illustration and CGI as well, it's a big thing, you know? Huge, huge. Alright, let's get back to the songs You must burn Charles? Yes, I like this one, I thought this was really good Heavy, again, I sang that about all of them, they're all, it's a heavy metal album, they're all heavy Let's not kid ourselves here This is good, kind of punchy, anthemic, I like it Good, I don't know what I've compared They'll probably compare it to something else, Death Magnetic, you know, one of those, you know, all Nightmare Long You know, that type of thing For me, this is the sad but true of the record This is, you know, when the black album first came out, and I heard Sad But True, it had to grow on the lyrics But it was like, plotting, and it was heavy, and it was creative, it was different And I think this is my favorite, if it's not my favorite track on the record It's my favorite of the tracks that we haven't heard yet Because I really do like the one we'll talk about next, Luxaterna and 72 Seasons But I think this is my favorite track that we haven't heard Like I said, for me it's the Sad But True of the record, plotting but in a cool way And I feel like they finally deviate it from the formula Like I feel like this, to date, was the least formulaic song on the record That it didn't sound like the other stuff on the record This one, this one, this one is more anthemic, would you agree, this song? Yeah, and there's a heavy hook there, like, you know, Sad But True Well that's what I mean, like on Death Magnetic, All Nightmare Long stood out as an anthemic kind of hook It was a faster song, but it was like, yeah, I can get my hands on that chorus And it's really, it's really prominent and dominant, and that's how I feel about this And Robert actually sings a couple of lines in it This is the one that he was going off when he did an interview Oh, did he really? Okay, I did I know you've got to really listen to it, it's not like he's doing lead vocals But he is kind of in there This isn't, you know, it's not like Coverdale Hughes in the same band where you can really hear that Exactly, when he was doing interviews talking about how proud he was that he finally contributed vocals to a Metallica record You've got to really listen for it, but yeah, this is the song, you must burn To me, this is the bastardized version of Sad But True It did nothing for me, this song, it might be the worst song Oh, see, I was making that a compliment and you're taking that as a nod I'm taking it, well, I mean, it sounds like I like Sad But True But they took the song and they ruined Sad But True by having the same sort of riff Same sort of groove, it's doom But I will say there's a very cool, sort of like they're sort of jamming in a sense, right? They're playing off of each other and, you know, in the section of the song I did like that part, but I don't know, man, it just does nothing for me in this song It's kind of like, oh, I might as well put Sad But True on Okay, wow, so we're opposite on this one Completely opposite, it's like one of the worst songs in the album for me We're all over the place on this one, aren't we? Yeah, we're all over it I mean, that's the thing, here we are, three guys giving our review And just so everyone knows, like, Jimmy and I live in the same time zone So we chat during the day and we said, okay, don't tell me what you think You know, like, we literally made a pact and we pinky swore today That we weren't going to tell each other what we thought of anything Because I think we both listened to the record early this morning And obviously we haven't spoken to Giles yet today But, you know, Metallica fans, anyone watching us, they're all going to have different opinions about this Yeah, there's going to be guys watching this going, what's he even talking about? Is he even listening to the same record?  I think Metallica have reached that point in their career that happens to every band AC DC, Iron Maiden, are they putting out their best, most classic work? Arguably no, although in the case of Maiden I would disagree But they are putting out consistent work And it seems to divide the fan base straight down the middle, 50-50, you know But you know what, to that point I would say for me and only speaking for myself Half the catalogue of Metallica I don't like and I like the other half And it's split down in the middle The last three albums, and I'm not counting Lulu because that was a Lou Reed record The last three legitimate Metallica albums have all been fairly consistent Are they their best collection of songs ever? Not even close But they've all been, there's been no sin angers, there's been no, not even a reload or load The last three have all been, if they had come out one, two, three in a row, Death Magnetic Hardwired and 72 Seasons, one, two, three after the black album with no load, reload, no sin anger in between I think Pete, I think they would have been received just fine And Giles I completely agree with you, and you know one of the notes I took for the overall impressions Was they've reached a level of consistency with their 2000 output in the 2000s And for better or worse, this is what Metallica sounds like in the 2000s Because now, you know what, you had Hardwired, that was a progression from Death Magnetic But not too different, and I think this is a progression from Hardwired, but also not too different And it's consistent, this is what Metallica sounds like in the 2000s You like it, you don't like it, but this is what they are, they're not the band Whatever I say will not change, you know, any ticket sales or any album sales Right, it's beyond that Whether this album even exists or not is not going to change tickets Exactly, exactly So I will say that I don't like Death Magnetic, I put it on recently Yeah, it's got a couple of great tracks on it, but overall it's a stinker for me The last album But it was, Death Magnetic was the album they needed to make I agree, I agree on that point, I agree, but it's non-memorable This album should have been one disc, not two, then it would have been a solid album But because it's got two discs, full of songs, half of them good, half of them not I don't reach for it, I don't reach for it But this album is way more melodic The great songs here are a lot more memorable I do think the album you're holding in your hand is the better album out of the three Recent ones, but let me ask the tough question Are any of us reaching for any latter-day albums of any of our favourite bands?  You know what I mean? Are you putting on Number of the Beast or are you putting on Final Frontier?  It's none of these bands' later albums are ever going to compete with those early ones It's just not going to happen Yeah, yeah Michael's saying it doesn't matter how good they are If Paldiano was on Hardwired, I'd reach for it Yes, I would If Paldiano was singing that way You're competing with Nostalgia and People's Memories It's how you could put out the best album of their career tomorrow Look, before we get back to the songs I'm just going to say I put this on today just to have a base Just to understand the differences Their songs were a lot more melodic But they're more straightforward compared to what they're doing today Yep, and unlike And Justice for All, that album does have a base So there you go There you go My point being is that any of these bands could make their best work next year And it would still be having to go up against, you know, decades of... That's nice, but, yeah, that's nice, but, you know I agree, you're so right Yes, you're absolutely right Luxie Turner, we all know this You know this one You know this one Giles, you want to talk about it fast fast? Yeah, real quick, good song We've all heard it before A good representation of the album Obviously, clearly This is one of the singles for a reason As was 72 Seasons It's a really good turn You've all heard it Yeah, Perrin, fast fast It's on my A-list It's like the motorhead overkill of the record And Noah, it's great It's short and it's simple And it really doesn't take too much processing It's just a short energy burst Which is nice You know, you can't have everything be Seven, eight, eleven minutes It's nice to have a short, simple song that you can get into pretty easily This could have fit perfectly on Hardwired In terms of production and hook Absolutely Alright Crown of Bob Barb Wire Here's one that Bob Barb Wire Yeah, and here we go again Another song that I really am struggling to kind of remember It's like, I made some notes here That it was, you know, had a good riff Had a particularly good vocal And again, I'm missing the hook I'm just like, where's the It's like an eel, I just can't grab it You know, I keep using that metaphor But there's nothing that's kind of reeling me back in Where I go, hey, push repeat on that one I'm just not hearing the hook But I can't say it's a bad song either So I don't know It's got a bit of a question mark over it for me, that one Perrin Yeah, I think Jarls and I are more locked in than you and I today, Jimmy So for me, this is like shadows follow Again, I liked the intro It was like an industrial kind of intro Like, you know, Rob Halford to, I don't know Like it was kind of, I kind of liked the first minute of the song There was something a little different there that I hadn't heard from Metallica And it piqued my interest And then again, after this cool intro, after about a minute We go back into what they've been doing With Death Magnetic and Hardwired and now this record It just goes into that, you know, lack of anything Kind of like Jarls said, there's just nothing memorable Like the intro is memorable and then it fades So this is also one of the four songs that was on my sea list Down there for me Good intro and then goes nowhere Well, I think I agree with you both on this one I think it's, the word is uninspiring, you know I would also use the word boring and doom Those are the words I would use It goes nowhere It's, and it could go somewhere I don't know, it's just, everything's sounding the same at this point But I will say that when I'm listening to it in the moment I'm enjoying it, but I'll never reach for it Ever And I'll never say, you know, I really want to hear that song again But maybe time will change this, you know Are you buying, have you pre-ordered this album? Are you buying the physical disc just out of interest? That's a good question That's a big question mark Like you had a question mark on the song I have a big question mark saying, I don't know if I'm going to buy the physical copy of the song Because I don't know if I like it With record The record, yeah, yeah CD record The record I would like Perrin to take the next track I'm interested in his opening song Chasing Light Perrin So this was on my B-list, so like I said 4, 4 and 4 was on my B-list I thought it was kind of like a cool swing to it And you know, guys, history is history, right? So we can't help but look for references I love the injustice record And I heard a little bit of Harvester of Sorrow And a little bit of Freight Ends of Sanity in this So this was the only track on the record Where I was able to kind of pull something from injustice And say, hmm, I'm hearing something And I was wondering if you'd say that Because I was wondering if that was just me And I'm like, let's let Perrin take this one Because I, again, it reminded me of injustice for all It really did this song Yeah, so look at that We're only here and the guy in Germany Didn't talk today but we're locked in So like I said, not on my A-list But it's on my B-list And I have a feeling Because guys, I guarantee you In two weeks or after multiple listens Our B-list will become our A-list Our A-list will become our B-list Our C-list will now be our B-list Like it's one listen, right? And it's cool to get an initial impression But I'm sure this will change So this is on my B-list I'll put this album on after this review Wow I'm just gonna give this, I mean I've only had it for literally like eight hours I'm gonna give this a real proper listen tomorrow While I'm doing some emails And work to catch up on So I'm gonna be doing tomorrow I would agree with you, it has a thrash groove Sort of the same way Exodus has their sort of Tribal sort of thrash groove But it is a little Inspiring and it's not the worst song I could sit through it And again, in the moment I'm enjoying it, but You know Just another song The next song If darkness had a sun I, this was a highlight Go ahead If darkness had a sun, go ahead This was a highlight for me It stood out if darkness had a sun It's me, to me Everyone sounded like If load or reload Were just about 20% heavier This would be one of This would be a song from load or reload This really sounded like You know Pick a couple of the heavier tracks Of those two albums and this sounds like one of them You know Right, Karen? Yeah, we've heard it before I like the Tribal drum intro, it's catchy Like I said, from my expectations We're up here Because we had already heard Luxeterna Screaming suicide If darkness had a sun 72 seasons All four of those songs we'd already heard Are on my A or B list So my expectations were here Partially because of this song So it's one of the better tracks I will say that to people If you are hoping That it gets even better After the four tracks We've already heard I don't know if I can go there I'd say There's a few songs that are on a par With the four you've already heard But some of the others are on my C list It's kind of like in the 80s The first three singles are released as videos And the songs are awesome Then you buy the album, it's full of filler They pick the right singles If we can call this single these days But they pick the right songs Because I think the four first songs they released Were songs on the record And then there's a couple others that I like That I've mentioned I would agree with you both I think this is the highlight of the album I love this sort of extended guitar solo I think the drumming is really good too And I think Lars The whole album I think he's playing amazing He's got his own little style He might not be a Neil Peart or anything But he definitely He's playing really good I've always liked Lars He's got his own little style going And it works just great It's a pretty damn big style Actually he's done pretty good for himself That's right I think Jim and Robert are really locked in Now as a rhythm section They've been together for 20 years So I don't think it's just Lars I just think Lars and Robert Are really forming a very good rhythm section They're tight They've only had 23 years to do it Or whatever Yeah But you know Lars has always been good People always shit on him What he's done With Metallica His vision from day one And that's Good drummer, bad drummer Average drummer, whatever You can't take any of that away from him But I do like the song I think it's the highlight of the album Alright, too far gone Giles? Nothing really to comment about this one Good song If I remember it rightly Because again it just hasn't stuck stuck in my head I've only listened to it once My notes hear that it's An aggressive tune Pretty heavy Very typical of Latter-day Metallica It's not a ballad That's for sure There are no ballads A bit of a cop-out A bit of a cop-out comment But again it's another one of them tracks It wasn't really anything notable Happening that I went, oh man That one, you know It's just another tune on the record Album track I think It's Luxaterna's little cousin In the sense that it's short It's not as good But it's short, it's fast, it's energetic And again I heard a little Blitzkrieg in there I'll say this is the least Polished song on the record It's again short, energetic Very straightforward There's no nuance in this There's no time change It's just a really simple, fast, straightforward song And I heard a little Blitzkrieg in there I can't help but be influenced By the past For the other song I wrote down Harviser And I'm listening this morning I'm like, wait a minute, that's Blitzkrieg That's kind of what I like in it too You guys pretty much Talked about everything I was going to say I would just say it's a nice car driving pedal To the metal song Is it memorable? Give me fuel, give me fire For 2023, early in the Yeah, yeah, exactly Actually, it just seems To be missing something Maybe that's the hook That's one This album had hooks This album as much as I don't Had the good songs Or the great songs had hooks This album, 72 Seasons My first impressions are They need to Mix it up with a different producer Or another songwriter That inspires them or something When you listen to the black album It's just chock full of hooks As is everything Prior to that And then even relative terms The last album We're just missing kind of Memorable hooks where I would go We got eight singles on this record Like the black album I'll go even further than that If you listen to Kill Am All Like Seek and Destroy There's a hook There's hooks and then there's Iconic kind of hooks And there's a difference On this one Because an iconic hook Also has to have a lyric That is extremely memorable Relatable and accessible To go with a riff and a piece of music That is all of that as well And the two work together To become almost a catchphrase Of the band's career You know what I mean? I think they almost have that Like I think Giles was a couple Like the singles, right Yeah, I mean The four singles were good A really good chorus Hook is accompanied By a lyric you could print on the back of a shirt And people go that The Wrath of Man in 72 seasons I thought they were saying Wrath of Lamb It's too close to Easter But the afraid Wrath of Man Is refrained a lot In 72 seasons Most of the Flame was actually One of them, you know I don't think any of the songs here I could hear them play as a big hit Like we're used to on the radio FM radio or AM radio Whereas Enter Sam Man was And that's what Giles was saying Cross over hit In all markets Whereas this album It's limited to metal Which is not a bad thing A lot of people were clamoring Around the time of Death Magnetic For them to become a metal band again Singles in a less video band So they are fulfilling that Request of the fans It might not be the metal Everyone likes or remembers But there's no doubt that this is a heavy metal record And it's not an experimental record It's just what Metallica I honestly think They're experimenting days are behind them The last three studio albums Have just been Metallica Doing what Metallica does Post Black Album Trying to soften things up Like Lode was There's been no trying to heavy things up To almost like the nth degree On almost like Noise kind of core on Sonanga That's all gone now They're on cruise control now Just putting out carefully timed releases At carefully strategic points in their career That all Since Death Magnetic And then the follow up album Hardwired The Substructor All relatively interchangeable It's almost like ZB Pop Eliminator After Burner and Recycler You can mix them all up And they're all pretty much the same record Inna morta Inna morta, the last song in the album I forgot a room of mirrors Oh, room of mirrors, okay We gotta go through this quickly It is forgettable Yeah, okay, well there you go It's so forgettable I Actually forgot about it So, yeah I think it's worse back on the album I think it's the definition of filler Can I push play on it, Jimmy? Just to refresh myself? No, don't, don't, don't You're gonna call me You're gonna call me Room of mirrors is the definition of filler It's just, it's You've heard it on three albums now I don't know I didn't see any need I think we've heard Again, I've not knocked on the record at all But I think we've heard a lot of this on the last Yeah, it's my least favorite I did like the guitar harmonies Which I haven't heard in a while Oh yeah, it's always good to hear a guitar Anywhere, I think, so that's cool That was really cool, it's got a hardwired vibe To it, if anything Alright, last song, Inna Morta Okay, 11 minutes So you're thinking, whoa, this is the epic song In the album What do you think? It's not the epic song on the album Okay It's a good song But it's not like Wow, here's like the centerpiece Of the album, here's the rhyme of the ancient mariner Or whatever, to make yet another iron maiden Comparison, but it's a good song And a good closer Okay, yeah, it is And that's it, like the second to last song Can be a throwaway on an album But the last song needs to leave you with a good A good connection It's gonna make you want to buy the next one, doesn't it I think this is one of the more creative Moments on the record So it's not an epic like Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner is an epic story But it's 11 minutes long It's more, the pacing is more Mid tempo I find the most Interesting tasteful guitar solo On the entire record is here And I feel like even in the middle There's a bit of a black Sabbath Mellow black Sabbath interlude Like they showed their Sabbath influence I would say there's a lot of that On this album, there's a lot of doom on this album And this one I would say This one is over the top This one is over the top Yeah, so I like this This is in my top four on the record And this one I'll have to listen to multiple times since so long But yeah It's just interesting It's the most interesting piece on the record I think There's a lot to it and a lot there to digest And it's different It sounds like all the stuff on this record I like It's Metallica But it's different than what we've heard On Hardwired and Death Magnetic They're different than nothing They're trying to do doom and blues And they're trying to get out of the box Which I commend them for that But A for effort But an F for execution Because this shows Their limitations as artists They're good at what they do But when they get outside of the box Their limitations They're bare You wait till you see my limitation as an artist It's way worse than this An A for effort An A for effort For trying something different But I don't think they're no Robert Plant They're no Tony I owe me They're just not in the same league But It seems that me and Perrin like this album more than you Let's wrap this up What's our overall thoughts on the record Overall thoughts I'm going to start things off I think the vocals They're very limited for me But I think the plus side of thing is The musicianship Is off the charts Great musicianship as you say Great sounding record I hate the word production Because that can mean so many different things The mix and the master are very very good It's Again an album that Goes sort of veers wildly From like Songs that I think are very very good But we've all heard them already because they've been the singles So what's left Does feel a little bit Kind of A bit patchy because it does kind of Go from like Very unmemorable To sort of okay to Quite good The strongest songs already are singles Which is probably how it should be But again it just sort of leaves that Well here's what's left Seems to be a bit of a grab bag of Sort of okay bits and pieces So overall I think it's a bit of a patchy record Lacking Lacking staying power Lacking some memorable hooks really in a way I keep saying that Perrin you got 30 seconds before I got to go I wanted to be blown away Based on what I had already heard And I came away merely satisfied Not blown away Death Magnetic Death Magnetic for me was a 7 Hardwired was a bit better, 7.5 I was hoping this would be an 8 or 9 It's another 7.5 That's kind of where I have it I would put it at 7.5 as well Exactly You give like everything like a 10 Then that's pretty low for you I guess So 7.5 I wouldn't say it's horrible album It's an in the moment album Like you play it, you enjoy it But what I reach for it to your point Yeah Giles I probably wouldn't reach for it anyways But there are some new albums that I do reach for More than less So I think this is a less of a Reacher maybe I'll grow to love this album But a good effort I think it should have been Shorter 70 if they would have Stripped away at least 15 minutes This could have been It's always that argument though When you're putting out a record every 6 years You're almost putting out a double record You know what I mean People want content On that note On that note I gotta go Thank you everybody for tuning in Thank you for the review guys And we'll see everybody next time Let us know what you think at midnight


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