Good morning. Hey, can you hand one second I am trying to set somebody else up on a different meeting so I'm just going to go on mute but feel free to welcome folks as they come in. Go. I shall be a couple of minutes before we start up here. No problem. And actually I'm going to pop out and then come back so if you guys have Alex you want to get started or just hang on one second. I'll be back. Okay, sorry about that. And then it wraps up so. Perfect, very efficient everyone. Okay, so. Opening up the meeting agenda. Thank you for joining me for July 25th. Perfect. So let me share my screen. Awesome. Well, welcome everybody to the areas marketing working group call for July. We meet once a month to discuss every all things marketing related to areas and hope to have more kind of voices and thoughts and ideas. And I encourage as we move forward and kind of updating and refreshing the messaging and kind of public facing content and descriptions for areas. If you want to add your information to this, let me. I think I can just put the link in the chat. And so again, my name is Helen Garno I'm from in DCO Alex would you like to introduce yourself. Thanks, make half working with come in the British Columbia. And Sean, I know we've crossed paths. Can you remind me what organization. Yes, Sean Tom from APSA, South Africa. I heard about this last week. Now for the life of the country member told me. But yeah, yeah, right. Welcome. Yeah, we have been talking a little bit about this group and the formation of this group over the last couple of months in the regular areas working group call so you might have heard it talked about there. But yeah, we did a little work in our last meeting. We were talking about how to describe areas what elements that we needed to kind of hear from the community about so we had created a survey to receive some of those some information just some opinions about kind of what's missing and what we should be doing. And we got those survey results back. And Alex has done a beautiful job, kind of formulating all of those, all that feedback and all of our conversations into a deck. So I'm going to share your screen and just present and we could talk about what we have, what you have. Yeah, absolutely give me two minutes here to miss 30 seconds here. 30 seconds feels like two minutes, sometimes I'm saying.  Playing with that when I'm doing presentations alright, we share this window up here. There was a person named Nathan George, who was one of the first kind of leaders of the working group calls from Indy and who was at sovereign and now he's at key I believe. And he would say, Oh, does anybody have any comments or questions and he would like, he would give a solid minute or like 90 seconds of like wait time before he would move on. And so we called it a Nathan like a unit of time. Yeah, so that's where that's what a Nathan is wonderful. Okay, here we go. So, you know this for recording for sure and as well and let's talk through what we did and what we found here. These are the results of a survey put out about three come on three weeks ago now, ran it for a couple of weeks. We're promoting in various places various, the working group, honey, but on the email list, the hyper ledged discord server within a few organizations got 16 responses back, which is to say this is not in any way a statistically valid. So the results is more of indicative items like, you know, can you see one prompting comment to open up a new avenue of thinking which is what it did. So should be taken with that we haven't got any real purpose in recording demographic information about the people or their employment and so forth so we also know the skew of this there could be some really great opinions out there about Aries, and it's important features are not reflected here. But with all those caveats said we got some good things out of it so just recap the results now and just talk about them rather than dive into the actual numbers. We had a like a question out the gate from not important to very important a five point scale about how important people think Aries features are to a business person and we gave them a whole bunch to choose from. Now this is to give a sense of how he wants to prioritize how we write about Aries, because from some questions we asked in the working group are going back about two months now, each person had a different summary of what they thought was important So everyone say okay is it isn't that it's for identity solutions isn't the priors privacy preserving important. What about the fact you can make wallets with it if you want to have that know right up front is that not clear, how about its future proved all these kind of things. So these are the bar graphs and where they skew high to the right hand side that means more support with a skew high to the left it means less support. So the most these results in line with what we thought identity solutions being the strongest people looking for the application for identity so that makes a ton of sense it's good to have that backup. Complete toolkit also lots of support using other credentials for high blue bar there like W3C credentials. Mix response which is interesting to me about wallets and agents in that we thought there might be. I thought there might be more people saying yes it's really important you say right up front you can make your own agents with this to do a BNC. That may be important this is not again the whole community, but it's a price not see that one higher. So that's like, okay, isn't it and putting these lower doesn't mean we're not going to talk about them. It means you may not talk about them as prominently right up front. So I think those are the main takeaways from this is that wallets and agents when, as important as saying you can apply this for identity you can apply this has multiple credential support. Oh yeah, the one that was negatively against people saying we don't the response saying we don't really care that it doesn't require blockchain. That wasn't a high priority feature that may have applicability to a market and misunderstanding there has been some talking in the EU about these aspects but in terms of priority features response that wasn't one of them. So let me ask I'll go to these these these results in a bit more detail I did the working group last week and I'll leave some speed impressions at the end. We asked exactly just ask a question on. So on the create agents is, is that in relation to that. The people you spoke to already have agents talking to the ledgers that they require. We don't have that information but my from doing a lot of survey work my interpretation is. It's not important when talking to a business person to mention wallets and agents upfront. They're more trust in the solution it provides rather than the together. And then we asked the same questions again but we asked the person that we asked respondents what about to developer. And these are much more powerful I just mentioned all the same things apply apart from a few things off the charts open source yes open standards yes huge support multiple languages that kind of makes sense. And again the same trends for the business people apply to developers. And the interesting steer that you know, we'll still mention solutions that involve wallets and agents and we'll still mention the fact that it doesn't require blockchain business but you know, as high priority in a hierarchy of things you tell people. When you first introduced into areas which we'll come to in a minute. We asked them any other suggestions of things that are important to mention. Some good, some good things came up these are more like you know, prompting food for thought items. And what's the conformity like for existing standards. How about for government level density and KYC needs. What's the time to market how you know where is this rate ago do you have to build top it what was it come with cryptography, who's there. Is it being externally reviewed by Athena with the pie all this kind of things. So this is an interesting list to come back to as we evolve how we describe our areas. And what we've been told about before in the first summary and hadn't been prompted by talking to the community about so it's good to get these responses. And they made a free text question saying, you know, go out or what else we missed. With that coupled with the freak, the free text we asked people to give us a whole bunch of materials that they thought would be great for people starting new areas. If you know developers coming new to this business business community news Aries, where do you send them. What's that bookmarked PDF you like what's that video that course. We got a whole bunch of suggestions, which we've collated and we'll put on to a first pass of a getting started section. And with that areas materials and we can refine this and the idea is that we're going to build get the community ball this is not for me and Helen to try and, you know, micromanage this is saying here's a place guys if you have somewhere you always send people. Put it here and reduce the workflow for everybody else they can kind of get started so we have about. I want to say about 30 links that people provided, which was very helpful. Feel the suggestions fact sheet comparing various two alternatives. It's a good point. FAQ. Most of you can cover the offer well structure information and it becomes a bit of a catch or if not looked after, but there could be FAQs about things that people often asked that we can address our right in that format so I think it's a merit there. Explanation of areas shorter longer versions. Great idea takes work might be a community thing to contribute. And then this is a good prompting question to segue into what I'll just finish and as someone said, the sooner we can update the hyperlegic pages about areas the better. And we have some materials are just dated from the launch of areas so 2019 more technical in nature. Don't reflect the latest use cases and now in some cases are incorrect. We need for us to get something update the students possible which we can cover in a minute. So, very helpful results, which basically said, I think I need for the same thing that we're on the right track we want to make sure that we were not presuming something about right in the areas that the community wasn't in line with. And this is not in any way statistically valid. In terms of, you know, quant analysis. We do get some some indications that we're on the right track and how we're describing this. So, so it's not just the Alex talking show how do you want to bridge into how we're going to be applying this do you want to show a description you come up with or how we're going to apply the format of it. Yeah. Or I can. Yeah, I think if you haven't, if you haven't met at the tip of your fingers that'd be helpful but I'll just add that yeah I definitely want this to be a collaborative effort. And it's also going to, you know, have lots of versioning, getting something out with sort of a baseline update across the wiki across the actual hyper ledger. And then there's this page that pops up when you like the highest ranked page when when you do a search for areas, getting those items refreshed and updated and then continue to iterate I think is going to be the best way moving forward. I would love to, you know, see more kind of implementation use cases examples of implementation. I would love to have more video content more contributions from the community in terms of marketing support of in terms of like white papers and longer form, you know, reading materials I mean all of this kind of conversation came out of the, I guess it was like six weeks ago or maybe two months ago, that they were talking about the open wallet foundation and somebody was saying, you know, I'm out in the community and in business meetings with potential customers. And they want to hear about a wallet and a wallet is so important and that's what we should talk about we don't ever talk about wallets and Aries, and we're like yeah then we should change it and I think you know there's some opportunity to find that middle ground for Aries. If it's a community, if it's communication or messaging problem, then, then we should absolutely change it so this is that opportunity to get started but it's by no means that the end result that we're never going to change it moving forward. So hopefully this this, you know we get this update going and then we keep moving. Absolutely. And the screen share in front of you is a draft of the content I'll position this we're going to come up with like, this is a core description of Aries as a sort of middle ish technical layer, and we're going to apply in three places. The landing page for the Hyperledger Wiki pages for Aries. So when you come to Aries and that's one of the main ones that comes up depending on your search engine and your in your search history. That could be first. The second one is the Hyperledger Aries landing page, the use case page on the Hyperledger website. Now we can't update that one right now due to some practicalities. We might be able to find a way around that but that's because they're refreshing their site. And they've got a bit of a freeze on content updates while they do that but that's the second place. And we might lift some of this content up a little bit to be a bit more slightly more high level for that audience and then they can link through the more details. That's the second place you apply the content. And the third one is in the Aries main Aries GitHub repo. The main readme file when you come to the repo has got a space for an overview as well. So those are the three core points and we can provide, I want to provide routes up where appropriate to high level information so if there's anything more business focus we can link up from that in the right places. And equally more likely as well we'll go down from this so people come from this initial Wiki page they might go down to more technical details needing me to link into that as well. And that's where this description came from based on drafts he worked at before based on feedback from the survey results I just covered and some feedback from the Aries working group. It was somebody give a couple of comments last week come to this description here where you've got a general summary at the top that's the link of where it's going to be by the way and some key characteristics of what it is. So these are the links that were provided by various people they could still be sorted I just took a first stab at saying these are more general needs a more developer techie focus but that could be better grouping and we can we can iterate them but let's get something up because something is better than nothing to go these links here, and then we'll continue the format as an existing page except to say that Helen has got this great template page that we're going to work off as a good structure for a wiki page and we'll probably just repurpose this content into the right places on that template page in the coming days right now. So we can have that that wiki page update as soon as possible so wiki page first hyper ledger site when they let us and see if we can find a way through that and then getting that repo for the repo updated the read me file there. And now if you do a Google search on hyper ledger areas because our assumption is that people are going to people are typically finding us not by searching on a what's out there to do identity and all the sorts of nuances of what that means. But we're working on the premise which I think has been backed up by a few people supporting us in this is that they hear about areas, it comes up in a conference we hear in a talk and they want to learn more. So work in the basis in the search for us by name. That's not to say some of our keywords might not hit that. But when you do that and search for hyper ledger areas by name those three places come up first, and that's what we're talking with this content. Yeah, I think that's an apt summary. Let me put the one more time just for folks that just joined us the link to this, this meeting, the wiki in the zoom chat here one more time. Yeah, if you go to that Google Docs link up that paper showed you in the screen share is about page two or three into that document to scroll down to says wiki content and then you'll see what we've got there. So yeah, the next step for us is I think we have the messaging good for now this is not a final one is I might get something up and let's iterate it. And next step is is, and unless there's any comments, which we really welcome right now. Next step is we're going to update that wiki page and move things forward and make it, you know, much more effective as a landing page of people. So that wiki page that you just showed is that just a current version that you're looking to update. Oh, sorry, here's, here's just the wiki page I put in the comments is the one for the meeting today. And the example page that the hyper ledger staff actually mentioned is a great model for filling out a wiki page kind of format for a project is this one and it's for one of the labs called me mini fab. And that is this link that I just put in the chat, the second link there the short link. And for mini fab, and I can also share my screen. And that would be an example of kind of what we're looking at in terms of updating the areas, the current areas page. So we'd have maybe some content at the top, a like a description of what it is, some of the highlights of what it does and some of those value points that that Alex just had in there, and then how to like get people going quickly how to get them using it contributing to it. Participating in meetings, etc. So we have all of the get started, get involved items right at the top. If you have questions where to go where the discord channel is etc. I think you know a layout similar to this is kind of what we're looking at if you go to the areas page as it stands. It has it has a description that, you know, needs to be updated. It has some characteristics, and then it has a documentation repose, and then communication and chat but I think that, you know, and then you know calendars and stuff but I think there's an opportunity here to kind of move things around make it a little more user friendly, especially again for potential customers or partners or vendors who are looking to adopt areas looking to learn about it just make it easier for them to find what they're looking for quickly depending on their level of knowledge or interest or what have you in the project so kind of move things around to make it a little more user friendly and update it with the messaging that Alex just shared. But the description that you if you scroll up quickly to the top. So to me this description is more of what it is then what we're proposing to update. So potentially just keeping keeping this description is what you're what you're. It resonates more with me than what we were trying to say in the other one because it is an infrastructure for peer to peer interaction as defined, because if Alex brings up these description. He talks to do more it being a digital identity ecosystem but it's more the infrastructure that allows the peer to peer interaction. I don't know, I mean that was my view or is my view of what areas is. Absolutely. And does anybody else want to jump in and chat. I think there's an opportunity here to have a nice. Yeah, discussion on what other people think. I mean when we kind of set out with the task of updating the language. It's a lens of trying to supply a view of areas that would be more understandable palatable familiar to somebody who doesn't know anything about areas somebody who is again a potential customer or partner or what have you. Who is a technical who wants to who's a business decision maker who's trying to decide whether or not to put money into a particular project or a particular vendor etc. And so when I think that we had, we started asking the questions in the survey etc, we were sort of framing it as, you know, there's these two different audiences the business audience and the developer audience and how can we kind of start real high level and then provide the offshoots and the, the experience that each one of those types of audiences would require. I don't know if you can actually get that first sentence in less technical. Sure, especially for a business person. Because I mean this is the language we utilize when communicating our business but in all fairness. We actually don't even go into the detail around areas just due to the fact that we find it's more a technical toolkit than, for example, what indies. So we would, we would have more business conversation around India than what we would have around areas. Because to us it's a pure technical tool set, same with Ursa for us to implement decentralized identity. I don't know how the other guys on the call see it and if they actually have a different type of conversation. One of the things about that first sentence in, or even the first, you know, part of that sentence hyper large hyper ledger areas as an infrastructure for blockchain rooted peer to peer interactions. We have found it in this kind of conversations in the last, you know, couple of months that a lot of organizations don't even really want to talk about blockchain. It's a word that they immediately start thinking crypto for a high level business decision maker it can be it can be a sticky word. So that was one of the items that I think had come up and one of the conversations was just that that word and then also peer to peer interactions. Again, if we're trying to start high level maybe this is a maybe this this phrasing and this terminology can then be used use somewhere else, but peer to peer interactions is also something that it doesn't really spark the value driven conversation. How can I implement what why would I implement this, what good is it to me in my business, why would I want to do this, where would I, you know, where would I implement it. And so I think part of what we were looking at is providing descriptions that were more again value oriented and communicating areas as a. I mean to Sean you could or Alex you could bring bring it up again what kind of the draft that you have there. But looking at it from a perspective from a lens of if a business is putting time resources energy money developer time towards Aries. Why would they make that decision and we're trying to answer that that question. Maybe that's not the question we should should have to start with. I don't know Alex do you have any thoughts on this. Yeah, I can see the value of clarifying at the right time, what it actually is, like I understand that and when we've, and a parallel piece of work the hell I doing with did come. We've gone more that way. It has a lower level technical value and we actually saying this is what it is quite clearly up front. But the breadth of it. Like I said every time you ask people a different idea what it meant. So we have gone just use a value base it's it's it's your it's your complete toolkit for doing this, and let's do this and this and this. Okay, and then the thinking is, well how does it what exactly is it well that's when you dive in. You look at those videos you look at those intros you look at the okay I get it now it's it's facilitates this. I think it is important. I could see potentially the value somewhere in description. In the right place is saying you know explicitly what is, but we have so far purposely picture that bit higher. As to what it brings the table rather than technically what it is, especially because I think the words. It's so easy when we're so in it to think these words are complex. But when we when you in any way like approaching us that first line is critical and we're starting to use four plus syllable words and get into longer technical things and blockchain route and infrastructures and peer to peer. They're not. We're just trying to find the middle ground of language. And so it's not going to discussion and I really hear what you're saying Sean I don't know the exact answer. And so far is that the few that we've had has been that being a lot of people have not pushed back on the track we've taken. So I'm wondering there's a way to have a cake and eat it on if we can take the value based approach you have and also have a statement someone say exactly what it is maybe there's like a. You know what point does that become critical. What point does it develop your what is it. I would say point of implementation but the other. The. So if we look at the first sentence areas is your complete toolkit for the same. When people see complete toolkit. I'll take areas and now I can start issuing my debts you can't. You need components like usher in it. You need components like a hyper ledger in the or the data depending on you know which direction you want to take. If it's like your complete toolkit for integration. Because the sentence in itself say condors says guys if you take areas you don't need anything else. That's the part that kind of reason conflict. I don't know. This is Tim here sorry I'm driving it's too much noise I'll go back to you. I'm struggling with this a bit because I mean areas. I mean probably areas is as many different. Applications we talked about the acupy is a complete tool kitty talking if Jay is a complete toolkit. Because I could certainly don't need indeed issue credentials some in it with some of those tools depending on what I'm doing. Others you know I don't do so. I struggle with, I still struggle with what is areas in terms of the toolkit, a set of standards, working code, implementing a set of standards. But I do think that areas isn't an important focus I mean as opposed to I really, to me Indian stuff is almost, there's a very few pieces left in India that are needed. But but areas is pretty much a placing most of the pieces the last one is a ledger but India is a non I mean sorry areas is credential agnostic now, I mean non crisis I should say so you don't have to use Indie node for example. Anyway, I do struggle with the much or what it is. And maybe there's room for modification instead of your complete toolkit. We do mention. An open source code repository or the mature code base for building decentralized identity solutions or something like that. But one thing we, I always had in the back of my mind is when Aries was graduated from, or they, whatever, and into graduated status, I don't know whatever the top level most mature status that hyper ledger.  There's constantly, you know, commits and interesting things happening and you know it's it's I want, I want to make sure that anybody comes our way and is looking at Aries understands that it's not just, you know, a bit of a bit of code that has been open sourced and you can pick it up and it might be able to do something with it I want to make sure that it is very clear about the breadth and depth of the code and that the description is in line with, again, what somebody, what their pain point is right like who are we serving with this top level description. And, you know, at the end of the day it's it's going to be somebody who's putting money towards creating a product with this. So why would they create a product with with this and, you know, let me learn more right. So we're starting out with, oh it's a code base that, you know, it's a mature code base that does, but whatever we decide you know the word wording there, and then we go into making peer to peer connections and, you know, to send you know something you know we could build I think we can build that language into a place in a workflow in a kind of a, you know, customer experience for using that using that language so we could we can definitely build it in there. I don't think we have to abandon it, you know, just blankedly. It was more around just getting that appropriate view of what it is to us as a community. I mean your ongoing communication channels for reaching their action to me is a good replacement for peer to peer. If you know that business type terms, the meter requirement and regulations for government level identities, maybe a bit of a stretch. There's a couple governments that are very keen on using it for that. No, I totally agree but you need to add. Let's call it a governance framework around it to meet those regulations it in itself doesn't do it. No, no it's a talk is it's a technology style it's not it's not the pieces around. Absolutely agree. But I still think at the tool it's a set of libraries and open source code bases mature open source code that allow you to implement these standards I think that's that that's the huge value proposition I think it's early. Yeah, very robust set of code. Awesome. I have been not taking very good notes back. Let me get back into the page and then we'll, I'll add that those those comments in here because really that's what this meeting is for right is to make sure that we aren't, you know, leaving anything on the table when we go to make to then present kind of what are to present this to the general kind of working areas working group. But I want to make sure you know we want to make sure that there is enough ideas and. Yeah, enough ideas being circulated and be in consideration so that we are able to provide a good, good, you know, next steps. So just adding some notes into the areas marketing working group meeting page. So I think that was, that was the majority of what we wanted to talk a little, you know, talk about today and Alex what do you think about adding, or when you, I think the idea is the next steps is to present that deck to the working group or to the like general areas working group is that right is that that would be the next steps. We've had we did that summary of the deck last week. Briefly, I think the next step was really about here's a, here's a wiki page ready to go. I would imagine is why is I think if we can reflect the language at the front so it's very clear what this is and we get that right I think that feedback is really helpful. Thank you, Sean Tim on that. If we get if we tighten that up so we have clear on that. I think the next step is, I suggest is, let's get something improved let's get the wiki page improved and ready to go. And maybe what we do is, we implement the, the language from the documents that you shared into a draft, and then I send that out. And then we can, you know, add or subtract or to you know change things as needed. But, you know, I do, I just, I really think that starting out high level and then kind of letting it, you know, choose your own journey. If you're looking at more learning about understanding what areas is or going to look under the hood and start seeing the code and the, you know, different, you know, underlying descriptions for developers I think that there's, there's room for both. And, and, you know, being able to accommodate that in what in the wiki and, you know, with offshoots I think is the best course of action so whether or not we keep that sort of the same areas language higher up or further down, it will be there. So I think it's just a matter of who, who that most appeals to, but we could definitely move things around as we go. Sure. Cool. And you put all those links to those two documents in the chat is that right Alex. I put the, which I put in there. No need to put the Google Doc link to that. Update description one second here. Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll just, I'll drop in that survey. Yeah, we'll just want to drop in the survey results stack that you showed and then I think I made it deleted the link that we had in there and then the area, the one that you had just presented. Just a question, are we going to be looking at the training material as well, because I see there's a course in inverted commas that covers hyperledger areas in these non credits. And then through the Linux foundation training. Oh, that is a good question. The areas community did not make that training material specifically I think like Steven current wrote it maybe. Yeah, the hyperledger. Yeah, something like that. So, yeah. We could, we could, yeah, we could approach Steven about, you know, if he's working on any updates or if we could, you know, review any of that material. I think he's been updating it over the years as things are going keeps refreshing it from what I remember hearing anecdotally so awesome. So yeah, maybe I'll try to grab that. Maybe I grab him for our next meeting he can join us and he could walk through the, the training and certification materials because you're right that's that's definitely a first step, you know, in a lot of people's journeys for sure. I feel like I went through it, it was like free for a minute and I went through it, but it was years ago Sean, have you ever gone through it in any iteration or Alex have you gone through it. Yeah, I think it's free unless you want the certification. I think it's still free to go through and it's, it's got some good conceptual building block stuff in there, which I find it's for back in the day. Yeah. I think it's $180 or something to that effect. For the certification or for the just the training. No for the certification. Okay. Yeah, so the, the just the workshop like the work the training is free so you can access and see the questions and everything or you know the content there. But what you're saying is you'd like to see the certification questions. Is that what you're asking for. So, you know, the as we update the material yard and give that business business view of what areas is Stephen kind of to me needs to take that wording and included in the training course was the training course talk specifically to an introduction for business. Now we say why and he says X. Yeah, no, that would be that would be counter counterproductive to our effort. So yeah, we'll, we'll definitely I'll reach out or Alex if you talk to Steven, if you want to invite him to our next next month's meeting, and we can walk through the training insert materials that would be, I think a good idea. Oh, sorry, and it might also be helpful to bring you know Sam in as well and you know with the two working group chairs and us, you know really get into the nitty gritty. So if we draft, you know, take, take the information that we have draft a new wiki page, and then kind of wireframe out what the web with the hyper ledger foundation website page would contain. And then present it to the working group and then we can fine tune it with the working group chairs on our next call I think that would be a good kind of next steps. So I'll put that under future topics. Oh yeah we did want to talk and that was one of the questions we had had is about competitors, like what what I maybe somebody on the call could answer the question. Robert, but who, what are the other competitors to Aries if someone's looking at building decentralized identity what else are they looking at. They're looking very much an open ID from you see. Good dominance competitor I stand looking at ISO MDL. Yeah, the problem is that not all the same things but let's just say I saw MDL open ID for BC as well a lot of people are going. Now they're doing the different things that eventually ISO generic standards, the ID standards are coming out. Those are your primary competitors. Okay, the VC can actually work within Aries so it gets complicated and these is been diagrams and then diagrams and stuff. But I would definitely say the ISO stuff, especially government which is very, very focused on MDL right now. Okay. Is there a way to make it clear that open ID can work with Aries is there some some miscommunication or misunderstanding about any of those kind of competitors when in that band diagram. Yeah, it's not that I don't know this others have to sort of chime in so there's definitely pieces of Aries that are overlapping with open ID for BC issuance right that's exactly what an issuance and presenting proof. Both of those things are overlapping but then you can you know a non-creds could be presented by open ID to be issued by it anyway, or proof can be presented so it gets really hard to nail it down I mean there's there's there's a bit of. I don't know a better way of saying that event diagram but I'm not sure how you can clarify that. Yeah, sorry, I have to think about it. No I appreciate that yeah I mean the I think it had come up, Alex and I were just, you know thinking about what other mess. Yeah messages out there. From other organizations other private entities other open source entities other standards bodies etc and so yeah that's, I think a great a great place to start. Yeah, as Alex mentioned we're working on some sort of, you know, did come language as well and open ID for VC is coming up there as well and so it sounds like there there's an opportunity to clarify to sort of clarify and less muddy the waters. There's an opportunity to do it actually I think that's the best place to do it because there's no reason why did come and open it even BC cannot in cannot work be side by side. But that's where there is some misunderstanding you will think that you know if you open it even BC you can't be using did calm well you certainly could insist and so yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me. Okay. Thanks for adding some notes and into the page. Another item that we had on our agenda was use cases. Specifically going through the repose of and describing each a little more familiar, like a little more palatable for somebody who doesn't know what a non creds or doesn't know what Jason like all the all the different repos that are in areas. How can we present those that, you know, these ones kind of go together and these ones kind of go together and this is what they do if you're looking to do this you want to look at these ones. If you if you're looking to do this other thing you want to look at these ones so I think that was another question for Steven and Sam and anybody on this call could, you know help help with that is what different parts of areas are most compatible with one other and why would someone want to use one and not the other, and in making their, their decisions on where to build.  One of the other foundation others is the concept of profiles. Really precise. It's not quite what you're asking because, you know, you, if Jeff was a occupy compete. You know, they, I mean, one's use more use mobile ones more use desktop but really that's a lot of the same functionality but it does. These are an area where you could you work sort of list for this, this credential scheme. This issuance this presentation, you know, presentation protocol whatever it may be very precisely listed so, but there's not many profiles right now. And that would at least help identify the anyway, all the one foundation is also working on trying to get profiles together to try and identify those kinds of patterns. I think we're done with areas to try and link them together. I'm not sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean that the getting started is always I mean is always a factor that comes up with areas, even not. I mean last week, this week I think I don't know I can't remember my weeks now in the discord channel there was something I tried this and I didn't know and I don't know where to start I tried to follow the guide on the that I found on the wet, like no one can. It's very there's a high barrier of entry for using and understanding areas and all of this work that we're doing is trying to lower that barrier of entry and get more people using it more people understanding it more people a roadmap on where they want to go based on what their use cases in their head that they've identified that decentralized identity verifiable credentials is is would benefit them so the more we can lower that barrier I think that's that's the goal here. And that's where I mean the open ID for BC is so being so successful. People think they know it because they already know IDC and all off you know exactly protocol, but they understand it intuitively it's very simple. You know you pick your poison but yeah that's exactly where that protocols standard which is still you know hasn't even finalized so so you know it's ready to use standard issuance. And that was done because of people could just understand it. Yeah that's great. I think there is some there was talk about open ID and Aries having some sort of agreement or co collaboration and something or other I'm not quite sure where what had come up. What was that was the wallet wallet which is different. Oh, sorry, sorry, I'm taking my opens. Oh, which is also very open even BC centric right now but we'll also support you know I would should also support down areas to come even if a Swiss Army knife but yeah. So open wallet is more related to. Let's call it authentication protocol. When you log on to an SSO where areas. And that's where you can use in open wallet credentials, people credentials that are issued. But for example, open wallet wouldn't use proof of employment. It has no value in its current.  Are we talking about the same foundation hasn't is not that precise prescribed is. Let's open ID. I'm talking about open ID here I'm talking about open ID for VC which does cover the same territory this is different for IDC. And that's, you know, we're getting into probably, which is about authentication but open ID for VC covers issuance. Okay, okay. Open ID there. Yeah, open ID for VC that's something different. It's not open ID. Alex or who's typing Helen. Yeah, open ID so it's a great confusion open ID the number four and then VC. Yeah, maybe we are. Thanks for catching that. Apologies, I put it in other places not I wasn't being prescriptive on it but yeah, open ID for VC. Okay, well I mean in the last few minutes here, I think we had a great I think this has been a great discussion on what more I think we were. We don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater but you know there is a lot that we could keep from areas I think from the current areas description and messaging but I think it's putting it in the right places for the right audiences so we'll definitely be moving some things around adding like another higher level. There's a lot of kind of description at this onset, but definitely want to get into these nuances so it answers people it's almost like a FAQ not that we put an FAQ but like, you know, it's one of these common misconceptions, misunderstandings of technology. Again, high barriers of entry, people not understanding where to go and what to do that we're trying to eliminate. So that I think might be in the next iteration or next series of, you know, work steps for us, moving forward once we kind of get the first first elements implemented. So, what we're going to do, I don't think there's other business but I just took this template from someone else. I'll invite Steven and Sam to the next call to talk about the training, the training and certification. We're going to review and have them review kind of the new pages that we will be drafted between now and then for them to look at and why hopefully a wire get a wireframe put together to at least give to hyper leisure foundation so that when they implement their website they can quickly kind of update them the language there. Yeah, and then in the meantime just focus on. Or sorry for the action items. We're going to just focus on updating the wiki for now and go from there. Yeah, very helpful feedback. Thank you. Um, cool. Is there any other kind of last minute call outs comments, anything that anybody wants to share. I gave like no point one Nathan's there. I'm giving it a full Nathan. No, just kidding. Yeah, so yeah, feel free to reach out feel free to, you know, add notes or what have you on this page. Happy to keep the conversation going on discord there is a Aries marketing channel I believe now on discord so we can keep, you know, keep the conversation going there. If you see examples or resources or links that you want to share that you think should be included or are good examples of something please, you know, drop them in, keep the, you know, keep the conversation going after this meeting. Yeah, this is not a point in time. This is the first of many a increments you may not get it all right at first time but we can keep improving it. I think if we think about that ways and gives a lot more freedom, because everything's about I think a big set force where we are right now, in terms of what we're trying to show all the great ones having the Aries last years. So let's, let's let's do that let's keep it going in all the feedback as well. Thank you all for your time today thanks for showing up, and we'll see you on the interwebs. Thank you all.


So the question is, what advice would I give somebody who is lost but wants to contribute to a more beautiful world? That would depend on whether advice was called for. Probably I wouldn't give advice. Maybe the most useful thing to do would be to acknowledge the lostness and acknowledge and celebrate the sincere desire to contribute something beautiful. The way that we see a person and hold a person in our mind's eye, the way that we narrate another person, is an invitation for that person to be as we see them or to play the role that we see them in. So, for example, if you see somebody as an untrustworthy scoundrel and treat them as such, they're probably or very likely going to demonstrate a lack of trustworthiness.  This is not like a formula for controlling people. But generally speaking, how you see a person creates an invitation for them to be that way. If you engage people from a place of being afraid of them, they're going to very possibly act in a way that justifies that fear. So, I like to see people as, yeah, you're a person who really wants to give something beautiful, because people may not even fully believe that of themselves. People often have a lot of self-doubt and self-criticism, and they don't believe the best of themselves, even when it's true. So, it's not about ignoring or skipping over or pretending that the flaws and the selfishness and the ego don't exist. It's about seeing what's true and calling it into consciousness, calling it into... And even establishing an agreement that that is who you are. It makes it more real. Again, reality is more of a conversation than a fixed, objective fact. It can't be a trick. Like, I have to actually see that in somebody to effectively name it and bring it into consciousness. There could be many other things that I could see alongside it. But those might be things that the person sees already.  And yeah, it's important to do that in the right moment. I appreciate that when people do it for me. And it's also important to name the blind spots that are the beautiful things. To name the gifts that you see in somebody. Because anything brought into awareness is then able to proceed in its evolution. The evolution of a wound or a blind spot is toward healing. The evolution of a gift is toward expression. So in either case, it is helpful to name it if there's the receptive moment and appropriateness of naming it. Again, it's something that I'd like to sense an invitation of some sort. Which may be explicit, but usually not. But usually there's a feeling, yeah, this is the moment to have this kind of interaction.


Hi, it's Bridget. Welcome to Above the Life channel. This week, you're going to see a couple of different videos that are not related. The only thing that's common in them is that there are gaps and particularly with the first video that I did with Paul Walker in the afterlife, I don't know anything about him. And I feel like I really misinterpreted misunderstood or screwed it up. Like I just was not very good psychic that day, apparently. But instead of deleting the video and never sharing it with anyone or editing it, I'm like, hey, great opportunity to show you the integrity that above life channel is shared with and the authenticity. Because being a psychic does not mean you're superhuman. It means we are human.  So the Paul Walker stuff is kind of all over the place and maybe it's just because I don't know him. I didn't know him. I didn't follow him. And so you guys can fill in the blanks and maybe you guys can connect some dots that I just couldn't see myself. So let's just get at it. Hi, it's Bridget. Welcome to Above Life channel. Here the purpose of our weekly videos is to inspire your spirit and to fill you up with hope. This week's channel is with Paul Walker.  One of the viewers suggested that I channel Paul Walker and I thought that was a great idea. Now, here are some things that I know before opening into this channel with Mr. Paul Walker is that I know that he was affiliated with a fast and furious franchise. I know that he died in a car accident. I know that he was young like 30s like in his 30s or late 20s. And I know that he has like blonde hair. I was considered very good looking and an up and coming actor. I never really watched the Fast and Furious. So I don't know his acting and I don't know his role in those movies. But I do believe that his accident that he had was like it was either at like a movie premiere or a movie set or something like that. And I believe that his I think I remember hearing that his son was there or somebody. Yeah, I think his son was there and he was like test driving something just for fun or going for a joy ride for fun. It was a horrible accident. It was very public. I remember that I remember the news that there was a lot about that you know on Facebook and things like that. So that's what I know. All right. And he feels like a Hollywood type and I have been really drawn in above life when I opened the channel to Hollywood itself like Los Angeles, California and Hollywood, the Hollywood Hills, Hollywood movies, all those vibrations there. So I'm going to feel into Mr. Paul Walker and see if he would like to connect. And I want to say that it kind of felt at first like wow that might be an intense one. That might be kind of a heavy or thick energy one to do. But the thing is is like I decided, okay, who am I going to channel? I want to channel, I feel like channeling. And he is the energy or the name that came forward for me. So I feel like there's not a heavy energy actually, because when we are humans and we transition into full on spirit, it's not our entire life is not summed up in the defining moment of our death. Your death is simply a doorway. It's a transition between being in a human body to being a full spirit.  And many people know that we refer to it as intuition, our soul's voice. And so when we come when we leave our body and become full spirit, it's really not that dramatic or traumatic, even if the circumstances surrounding death are even if it's really dramatic, you know, and really incredible, the energy. When you become full spirit, it doesn't there's none of that attachment to the death point. So I know as humans, we're really curious about death. It seems like a lot of people have a big fear of death. And there's just this kind of this a little bit of a pressure or a pushing on energy feeling about our own mortality when someone dies so young like that, or tragically or suddenly especially. So all right, so I'm just going to tell you he doesn't feel like that. So I'm going to feel his energy right here.  I'm going to say he's good looking. I'd say he's close to six feet. It's hard to tell because I'm not standing, but I think he's close to six feet. He's like, thank you. Maybe I stretch the truth a little bit.  He says, like, okay, I don't know if he's just under six feet or just over six feet. Or if he's like, he shows me like a headshot of him. He's like, maybe that's, you know, maybe that's what it says on his headshot or whatever. He's like, I can't let you do it. He's like, if I wear boots, and I literally see him with like a cowboy boot type thing or a boot, like a trendy metrosexual kind of boot with a heel. So it might not be actually cowboy boots per se, but it looks like a boot kind of a shoe. And it's like a not a cognac color. It's darker than that. It's like a creamy caramel color. That's what it looks like to me. It looks like he's got a navy blue, navy blue, like dress pants or suit pants, and then a belt that kind of matches that caramel color. And then a light blue, no, it's a lighter. It's either a light blue or a light gray button up dress shirt. That's what he has. And it looked like he had a jacket on too, or he has a jacket on too, but he he's not wearing the overquarter, the jacket, and he's rolling up his sleeves because it's warm out here right now. It's warm out here. He's like, yeah, in LA, he's like where I'm from, there's, you know, it's always hot. And right now it's really hot right there. It's really hot. He's like, yeah, you melt.  And he says, I have one. He just said, I have a wax figure. If you know if he does, put it in the comments below. He's just telling me kind of bragging a little bit that he has a wax figure. Did you know I have a wax figure? I do not. And then he shows me a yellow car and a silver car. Like, did you so did you like sports cars like in your real life? He's like, who doesn't? Yes. They're a lot of fun. He says they're a lot of fun. And he's showing me, I think it's a coworker. He's saying a coworker. That's a funny name for like an actor, I guess, but coworker. That's what he says. I think oh gosh, I don't know his name. Is it Vin Diesel? Is that right? The bald, the guy bald, he's bald. He doesn't or he shaves his head. But he's in the franchise to the Fast and Furious.  Who's got a better mug kind of thing, just joking around.    And he says, I appreciate that they went on with the movie. And did they? Do you guys know Fast and Furious? The movie that the the version that, excuse me, Paul Walker was in, did they go on with that? If they did, will you put that in the comments below? I don't know if they did or not. He's saying that they did. They went on and he said, I feel like he was in part of the movie though, like I actually see him like acting in part of the movie. Oh, that would be kind of weird. Oh, that would be kind of weird. He shows me an African American guy, like a Wesley Snipes kind of guy, you know, and he's like, I think he's trying to show me parts of the movie, scenes from the movie. I want to say five or six. Is it movie five or movie six or something? It's a lot. It looks like a lot. He's like, yeah, like Star Wars, huh? He's like, yeah, just like Star Wars, huh? For people who like racing, you know, car stuff. I don't know. And then he's showing me, oh my gosh, I don't know her name. There's an actress that I, gosh, I remember. Did you hear that bird back there? Yeah. She's kind of mad because she has a nest over here and I'm in her space and she probably wants to go get into her nest over here.  He's showing me her for some reason. I don't know why he's showing me her or what the connection is. But I'm seeing her. And, okay, so I don't know what these mean. So I'm seeing kind of random images and I'm not sure how to connect to them. So maybe you can help me. I see a picture of, gosh, I'm so bad with names when I'm being psychic especially. Chandler from Friends, the TV show Friends. I can't think of his name right now. I'm blacking. I'm blacking. I'm blanking. Matt LeBlanc was Joey, who was Chandler. You guys are yelling at the video right now. That actor, oh, that's crazy. I can't think of his name right now. He was in a movie called When Fools Rush In. I think it was called that, but I hear that song When Fools Rush In and I see, is it Matthew Perry? Is that his name? I think that is his name, Matthew Perry. Okay, all right. It didn't sound right, but it's, I think it's right. It didn't feel right when I was like saying it in my head. I'm like, that doesn't feel right, but maybe it is. I don't know if Paul Walker and Matthew Perry have anything in common, if they were friends or if the movie When Fools Rush In was something. I don't know. And then I see that Rosie, that little, I feel like she's petite, like she's shorter than the guys that she often co-stars with. Rosie is someone. She's Latina. I think she's a Latina. I believe so, yes. Actress. He's showing me these and I don't understand what the message is or the information is. If you do, if you can connect the dots for me because you know Paul Walker, you know his career, you know his movies that he's been in, we put that below. I can see it When Fools Rush In. I see Matthew Perry, the guy from Friends. Chandler from Friends. God, I loved that show. I don't know, maybe Paul Walker had a cameo or something? I don't know. He sure has a good-looking face. He totally looks like a California guy. And then he's telling me something about Iowa or no, not Iowa, Idaho, Idaho, Idaho. Some state with an I. That helps. Oh, that helps. That doesn't help that much. I'm being sarcastic a little bit. He says, I sing, you know. I'm like, what? You don't sing? He said, yeah, I do. Yes, I do. I sing. I can sing. He can sing. Paul Walker can sing. Like, I don't know if he actually had a song out or what, but there's something he's saying, I can sing. I can sing. Okay, all right. I feel like he was recently married or recently divorced. So I feel like there was a separation of a relationship and then another relationship. I do feel like there was a young boy that like five, maybe five, that I don't know if he was a stepdad or a dad. I can't feel the bond. I can't feel it. He doesn't want to talk about the family. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to bring them in. I don't want to bring them in. Okay, he's like, it was a horrific mistake. He said, it was just one of those freak things and he said it was just a horrific mistake. He said, I over calculated. I was going way too fast. It was, he was driving is what it looks like. It looks to me like you were driving. Is that true? It's hard to tell because it looks like there was an eject, like he was ejected or they were ejected. There was two people in the car. It's what it looks like to me. Oh man. He says, he remembers kind of being awake and kind of knowing what's going on, but like almost like a weird dream kind of or like you're on a lot of medication like novocaine or something or not novocaine. Whatever, numbing. He's trying to describe that he was numb. He felt numb, but he was aware of some things. So I don't know if he's showing me the spirit image, him being able to see what's going on spiritually. And he's showing me like like firefighters cutting apart the car. I mean like a huge wreckage is what he's showing me. I see red and black around. I don't know. It's weird because I see like the door opening funny, like sliding back or sliding over or something weird. I don't know. I don't know cars you guys. I know those of you who do are probably yelling at me. What kind of car was it you guys? I want to say Porsche or Ferrari? Porsche? I think it's a Porsche. P-O-R-S-H-E I think. That's what it looks like. Something fancy, real fancy. That's pretty much it though. I mean I don't feel a whole lot. I'm really hot right now. The sun is really beating down. I think I'm gonna wrap this one. I feel like he's also saying that he had a dog. He's just gonna say that like a big dog.  I feel like there was another movie that was waiting in the wings that he was going to enter into and do. I feel like it was a little bit of a departure from what he had typically done and it feels like not a red neck movie. That's not exactly what I would describe but something in the south or something a movie with a plot in the south or something like that. Southern, a southern movie is what it feels like. I don't know where I said red neck.  But I feel like there was another movie waiting in the wings that he was in line for. Yeah I think that's pretty much it. So you described how it felt to cross over a little bit. Like what you remember. Yeah it's pretty surreal. He says one minute you're here, the next minute you're there, and you recognize that you're not restricted. There's no confinements. You know your body is just not needed. It's not necessary anymore. It's just different. It's just different. It's really hard to describe. Are you planning to come back and reincarnate? You bet. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Maybe you can come back as a race car driver. If you really like to drive cars that much you know. So that's possible. You never know. He says I don't blame the car or anybody else. He's like I don't blame the car or anybody else. That's crazy. He says that's crazy. It's crazy. It's just a horrific mistake he said. All right well I appreciate your time Mr. Walker. Thank you and oh he smells good too by the way. Yep very nice. Thank you. I'd love to chat with you again if you guys have questions for Mr. Paul Walker because I don't know a lot about him. Put them in the comments below and maybe we'll connect with him again in a future video at Above Life Channel. Remember the purpose here is to inspire your spirit to fill you up with hope. It is your life my friends. So live it. Give this video a like and be sure to subscribe to never miss a new weekly channeling video. Thanks for being here.


All right folks, we are in Minneapolis, no, we're in St. Paul, right? Yeah, St. Paul, right? Where are we? Oh no, actually across the river. Yeah, so it's hard to say. We're in the Twin Cities. We're in the Twin Cities. It's snowing, as you can see. What are you going to say? You're going to say something? Yeah. It's snowing. We just had the honor of just doing a really powerful interview, a challenging situation, a challenging interview, but so I think we're in a reflective mood right now, Joe and I. And we zipped from Bismarck to Binyin. If you look on a map, we drove six hours yesterday. We were not planning to come to Twin Cities, but the big man had other plans, as I like to say. And so here we are, but now we're leaving. Yeah, the Super Bowl is tomorrow in this city, but we're getting out of here. Okay, so where are we going? Where are we going? I don't even know. I don't usually like the house end. And I guess we should put that in, right? Yeah. Boom. Ben and I went to the other one. So we finished in the Twin Cities already today. It's hardly enough room. It's definitely a sacrifice. I'll call you for a minute, then we can talk. For us to be out here. We can try to talk to you, but it's a balance. So it's a balance. It's a balance. First, reverse. Next, the designies. And that one did not explode, unlike yesterday's vlog, where they, couple of them exploded in Bismarck. You always got to know where the free Wi-Fi and the fireplace and the coffee's at on a road trip, right? When you're doing media, Panera. It's a good spot. A lot of room to spread out. It's a good spot. Oh, hello. Two hours later and we're done. I love running, but sometimes it hurts. Ugh, good to be back in the car. It's much warmer than St. Paul or Bismarck, but man, it's windy out here. Time to go find a house to sleep in. Tip of the day. If you're having guests stay over at your house, set up a table for them so they can put their stuff on. It's amazing. It's, I've never, I've never really had to set a guest house. Boom, look, boom. Efficiency. You can set up your stuff. You don't feel like you're taking over their house. Set up a table. I love it. I love it. All right. See beauty, work hard. Love each other. See you tomorrow.


Studies on the effects of forest bathing, a traditional practice in Japan of visiting a forest and breathing its air, have found it can induce significant increases in the number and activity of natural killer cells that can last for as long as a month.  Okay, but how? I mean, why did the forest environment increase natural killer cell activity? What is it about the forest environment? One thought is that the boost may be related to reduction in stress.  Yes. So, I mean, that checks out, but drips some adrenaline on human blood cells in a petri dish and there does not appear to be any effect. I mean, the stress hormone cortisol on the other hand, dramatically suppresses natural killer cell activity. So, you know, maybe the forest led to less stress, less cortisol, which released the natural killer cells under its thumb, and you get that big boost? We know being surrounded by nature can decrease levels of cortisol in our saliva, but what about our bloodstream? A significant drop after a single day trip to the forest. You know, but a week later, the cortisol was normalizing and the forest effects sometimes appeared to last an entire month. Anything else that could cause a longer-term immune system change? Maybe we've been missing some of our old friends. If you sample outdoor air, you can pick up an abundance of microorganisms floating around from the soil or water, which are absent in indoor air, which is dominated by organisms that either live on us or trying to attack us. So, maybe on a day-to-day basis, in terms of keeping our immune system on ready alert, it might not be sufficient to encounter only the kind of biased microbes of the modern synthetic indoor environment that lacks some of the old friends and probably bears little resemblance to the microbes we evolved to live with over millions of years. Or maybe it's the plants themselves. Maybe it's the aroma of the forest. Trees produce aromatic volatile compounds called phytoncides, like pineene, which you can breathe into your lungs in the forest. But do these compounds actually get into your bloodstream? One hour in the woods and you get like a six-fold increase in circulating pineene levels circulating throughout your system. Okay, but to fully connect all the dots, the phytoncides, like pineene, I mean these tree essential oils would have to then induce human-natural killer cell activity. And guess what? Phytoncides induce human-natural killer cell activity.  A combination of wood aromas improve the recovery of mice put through the ringer, but this is the study I was looking for. If we want to know if the magic ingredient is the fragrance of the forest, then let's see if we can get that same boost in natural killer cell activity, just vaporizing some essential oil from one of the trees into a hotel room overnight. And it worked! A significant boost in natural killer cell activity, though it just boosted their activity rather than their number. And being in the actual forest can do both, so maybe it's a combination of the tree fragrance and the lower cortisol levels working together. Ironically, these phytonside compounds are part of the tree's own immune system, which we may be able to kind of commandeer. The researchers speculate these compounds may be playing some role in the fact that more heavily forested regions in Japan appear to have lower death rates from breast cancer and prostate cancer. Being out in nature has been found to be an important coping strategy among cancer patients. Turns out this could potentially be helping more than just with the coping, thanks to the fragrance of trees.


April is here, and that means it's Nintendo Direct Rumoredime? Okay, no, no, no. The rumors already exist. Actually, this is Nintendo Direct Speculation time. In fact, if there is a Nintendo Direct this month, which I do firmly believe there is, I might even have a little minor source of I own on this one, what can we expect in an April Direct versus what do I actually want in a Nintendo Direct? And you can bet that basically the entire Direct is going to be about this. I mean, come on now. It's the Nintendo Switch. This is what we're here for every day, right? So let's get into things that I actually expect to be in this Direct in some form or some way. And the first thing is I do kind of expect them to have something here in Nintendo of America for Reggie Fieseme. For those who don't know, he leaves on April 15th and the last time we've even seen him publicly in a video form was basically the announcement that Doug Bowser was going to be taking over for him on April 15th that he put out on all of the social media platforms. So what we should be expecting at this point is at least one more appearance for Reggie. I think it's only fitting that Reggie gets one last hurrah in a Nintendo Direct in Nintendo of America, maybe as a transition to be like, hey, here's Doug Bowser. I do think I don't know what it's going to be, but I do think that Reggie Fieseme is going to leave his position at Nintendo on a high note and drop a reveal for a much anticipated game. I know a lot of people are hoping it's Mother 3 because Reggie's been talking and asked about Mother 3 for many, many years. I don't know that it's going to be that, but I do think he's going to announce something, show something and basically have a big thank you to the fans all over again. Again, this will just be in the Nintendo of America version. It is not unheard of for even though there to be like a worldwide direct for the country specific directs to have individual segments that are exclusive to those countries. I think this would be like an exclusive thing for Reggie Fieseme to have his final goodbye with one last gift to the fans. Heck, that gift might be just dropping SNES games on the switch. I don't know. Maybe it's not a gift from Reggie, but he hands it to Doug Bowser, who drops the gift. Either way, something's going to happen. I think in regards to that, just because they thought it was such a big enough deal that Reggie was moving out to even do an individual video announcing it. So I do think he will appear in one last Nintendo direct just to, I don't know, I guess say goodbye for the final time. All right. Now that aside, a little bit of a sad thing. We're obviously going to get a Smash Bros update. We are going to get the release date for Joker. It's happening. We know what Joker is coming this month. Sakurai has reminded everyone this week that it's coming soon. So, yeah, Joker is going to have his release date announced. I also think they're going to talk about some other things that are coming in this big Smash 3.0, something like that update. And we've heard rumors out there about maybe break the targets, home run battles coming back. I'm not sure what there's going to be, but I feel like we're going to get more than just Joker and associated stages and stuff. I think there's going to be new modes added to the game for free. So, yeah, we're going to hear about that stuff and potentially they could talk about a newcomer for the next DLC. You think about it. There wasn't a lot of distance between when we found out about Piranha Plant than when we found out about Joker. So I feel like once we know when Joker is coming, that's when it's time to tell us who's coming after Joker. So we'll have to wait and see. They might not actually unveil that. That part of it is a little iffy for me, but it feels like it might be a good time to do it because, hey, we've been talking about the Joker DLC for months. I think it's time for us to talk about the next piece of DLC for Smash Bros, especially if it's a big name character from an IP that's never been represented in the game. Now, here's another given. I think we're going to see Super Mario Maker 2 again. And I think the biggest thing we're going to get out of this is a release date. I don't know that the trailer is going to be super long, but it is slated to come out in June. And it would make a lot of sense for them to unveil the release date before we actually get to June. So, yeah, I think Super Mario Maker 2's release date will be dropped this month in a Nintendo Direct. I also think one other game that we know a lot about, but we haven't really heard anything about it since they dropped the demo, is Daemon X Makana. Yes, I do think they are going to finally give us a release date that's not just summer 2019 for Daemon X Makana. They dropped the demo last time. All right, they got all the feedback from the demo. Now they can kind of game plan for when they want to release this bad boy. So I do think they're going to announce that it's going to be coming either in early or late June. I think Super Mario Maker is going to be on the opposite end of whenever that game comes in that month. So, yeah, I think we're going to get a release date for that and it's going to end up being early summer, especially since we already know Fire Emblem drops in July. Now, beyond that, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. Yeah, that game. That game that we don't seem to talk about enough at this channel, I think that's going to have its release date announced as well. I don't know if it's necessarily going to be a June game. I definitely don't think it's coming to May because they said summer. So I do think that might potentially be a July game. But, again, I think the release date's going to be announced because I don't think they're going to focus on Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 at E3. I think that's kind of the theme of this direct is going to be games we're not focusing on at E3. We're going to reveal their release dates at least now and we can hype them up as we get closer to that release. I don't think they're going to talk about or show those games at E3, just that they're not going to focus E3 around these games. And not having a release date for games coming in summer would mean they're probably going to have a huge focus for that at E3 unless there's been delayed and we haven't heard anything to be delayed at this point. Now, at the Nindie Showcase, they showed off cadence of Hyrule, right? That Necro Dancer, I know, right? I always want to say Necro Dancer. The Necro Dancer, the Crypt of the Necro Dancer game, crossover with Legend of Zelda. We didn't get a release date for it. It's just spring 2019. So, yeah, they're dropping a release date. Won't be surprised if it's even a shadow drop. Would be weird, right? Because there's some presumptions. There might be a physical version because it's Zelda. But honestly, we don't know. Nintendo has never crossed over with an indie game in this fashion before. So we don't actually know. We're in uncharted territory here. Don't be surprised if it's just shadow dropped. In fact, Reggie, as I talked about earlier, one of his favorite franchises is the Legend of Zelda. So for him to shadow drop Cadence of Hyrule would be pretty cool. That potentially could be what he does. But I don't know, either way, we're getting a release date for Cadence of Hyrule, even if it's not shadow dropped. Just, these are things you really should be expecting out of this direct. Beyond that, there'll be a montage of some sorts. They're gonna show off a montage of games coming in April and May, so Mortal Kombat and Dragon's Dogwind, all those Resident Evil games, some of the Final Fantasy stuff, et cetera. There's a bunch of games coming over the next couple of months with third parties that are like older ports and plus Mortal Kombat. So I feel like, well none of those games are gonna get any individual attention at the direct.  Hey look, here's all the other games coming up really, really soon with a montage of release dates. Beyond that, I think there will be one new major third party game announced. I don't know what this third party game's gonna be, but I think this is gonna be a la last year's one when they had that Nintendo Direct Mini and they dropped Dark Souls Remastered at the end. I think there's gonna be a major reveal at the end. I'm leaning towards Persona 5, but again, we don't know what it could be. It could be anything, but Persona 5 to me feels like a natural slot for this point, especially if it's going to be the version that's coming to PlayStation 4 soon. The Persona 5 are and maybe it's gonna be a day-in-day drop, so they were waiting for this Direct to announce it, especially with the Joker DLC being in this Direct. I think that makes a lot of sense, but again, it might not be coming to Switch at all. We just have rumors and speculation, so it could be anything, but I do think a major third party game is something we should expect to be announced, or at least a semi-major one. Like, was Dark Souls Remastered considered major? I thought it was at the time anyways. So I think that's going to be dropped at the end of this one, and I don't know if that's gonna be like, oh, it's coming soon, or is it gonna come later this year, but I think something's gonna be brought up about a major third party game. And that's really all I think we should expect. Now, going out from expectations, there's things I want to see. Apex Legends, they're now porting it to phones. We've seen demos of it on phones. I think that's gonna come to Switch at some point, but why not now? Like, I really wanna see Apex Legends on phones. I don't think we should expect this in this Direct, but I think it would be a great announcement, especially since Nintendo has seen how successful Fortnite has been on their platform, along with all the other amazing free-to-play games that Switch has. Apex Legends just fits right in with that and would just be more and more success on the Switch. Like, there'll be millions of people on Switch playing Apex Legends, so I do think they need to bring that over, and it shows more of a good faith movement between, you know, EA and Nintendo, and it uses the Frostbite engine, and there's rumors about the Frostbite engine being ported to Switch. Might be a nice time to unveil it. I wanna see that be a thing. Don't think it should be a major focus at E3, but I do think Apex Legends, I would like to see that announced in this Direct. I don't think it's gonna happen, but again, this is what I want to happen in addition to all the things I do expect. I wanna see a first look at Animal Crossing. Look, we don't know when Animal Crossing is coming. It's still just 2019, not summer, not fall, not end of year, just 2019, and we haven't seen anything. We saw a pre-rendered CGI scene of Tom Nook announcing that it was coming last year, and that's it, it's been dead silent since. I'm actually worried that Animal Crossing could be delayed out of this year. Not that it would be the worst thing in the world because there's so many amazing games coming this year, but man, people have been waiting a long time for a new core Animal Crossing game, so I don't wanna see it delayed. I wanna see them show confidence in the game and actually show the game off. Now, if it's coming this year, they have to have something to show by now, right? Like, you can't just be trying to cobble together the game in six months, so I think they have something to show if it really is coming this year, and I would love to see it now. I think they might be waiting for E3. I think this is an E3 unveiling they wanna do of the gameplay and be like, hey, this would be another big holiday title to pair with Pokemon, but I honestly want it to be shown now. Maybe it's just because I'm worried about the game. I don't know, but we haven't seen any, even a gameplay trailer. We already know it exists, so it's not a new announcement. So I really just wanna see gameplay of it. I don't think it's gonna happen, but please, Nintendo, please, please. Okay, this next one I think is a little more plausible. We've already seen gameplay, so they took this bad boy out and they showed us Luigi's Mansion 3, right? They showed us a little gameplay trailer. I want to see Luigi's Mansion 3 again. I want to see more gameplay. I want to see what makes this stand out in compared to the prior Luigi's Mansion games. And is it more like Luigi's Mansion 1? Is it more like Luigi's Mansion 2? Or is it like a completely different thing doing something on its own? I want to see more of it. They've already shown a decent amount of gameplay at the reveal, so let's just see some more of it. And let's, I don't know. I mean, I want a release date to be honest, but I think the release date will be safe for E3. But whatever, I don't really care. I just want to see more of Luigi's Mansion 3. I don't know, maybe I'm expecting too much here. This isn't even an expectation. This is a want, so whatever. You know what else I really, really want to see announced for Switch? That isn't going to happen, but I can dream. So let me dream Skull and Bones. Look, I realize that Ubisoft has not brought Assassin's Creed or The Division or any of these other major games they have to Switch. Right? It's been Mario Plus, Right? It's Kingdom Metal, some old Wii U ports, and that's pretty much been it. We have Assassin's Creed 3 coming, but I mean, it's not the same thing as bringing over Black Flag or bringing over Odyssey or whatever. And we have the streaming game service in Japan, but again, not the same thing as bringing over a full game natively on the platform. So why Skull and Bones? Well, they announced Skull and Bones years ago, hasn't come out, it's built on the backbone of the ship system that was in Assassin's Creed for Black Flag, which was a Wii U, and it's considered a new IP. They're not really attaching it to Assassin's Creed. It's a brand new IP. And as a brand new IP, why not have it launch on Switch as well? You don't know what platforms, but Skull and Bones is gonna be most successful on. So as a new IP, and maybe they get confidence because of Starlink Battle for Atlas's performance on Switch being better than the other platforms, that maybe, just maybe, I have a little bit of hope, a little bit of hope that Skull and Bones might actually be announced for Nintendo Switch. I don't think it's gonna happen, but these are my wants, these are my desires. So Skull and Bones, yes, I want that to be the major third party game talked about that I think they're going to unveil. Beyond that, I do want to see some more of Doom Eternal. Look, we've seen a lot of Doom Eternal. We pretty much know what the game's gonna be at this point. It's more Doom, and more Doom is glorious. But we haven't seen a ton of Switch footage of the game. So I think seeing some Doom Eternal and assuring people that maybe it looks better or performs better than the prior Doom game on Switch, I think is something that I would like to see happen that needs to happen. It's probably not gonna happen because they've been kind of advertising Doom on its own. So I don't think it's gonna be shown here, but you know what, I don't care. I would like to see it, again, my wants and my desires. Not what I actually think is gonna happen. SNES Games, I talked about how Reggie might ghost drop SNES Games. I don't really know, I don't expect SNES Games to actually be talked about in this direct, but I want them to be talked about. So SNES Games, bring them to the service, please. Now, this last one is one that again, I think is the most far-fetched of all of them. Haha, not the Pokemon, just far-fetched in general. UI fixes. Now, when I say UI fixes, that's not to say that the Switch UI is bad, but that's to say that it could be better. Think about it, there are many of us at this point that own 40, 50, 60, 100 plus games on our Switch, both digitally and physically. So how about some folders, right? I might even get it into themes, which I think would be a great addition in a way for Nintendo to make extra money. But folders? I mean, we had it on Wii, so folders, please. I would love to see folders added to the system. I also think maybe announcing a much-needed update to the eShop, where they start using like a Netflix-style suggestion system, where they're like, hey, based on your purchase history, based on the multi-hours you've played on certain games history, which is available locally on your Switch, these are the games we think you will also enjoy. Something like Netflix-style with that to me makes a lot of sense. Now, again, I don't expect any of these changes to actually be announced. Basically, from Apex Legends on down, none of this, I think, is gonna actually be talked about at this direct, and I think that's putting too much expectations on it. But hey, I can dream a little, right? I mean, we're gonna see Super Mario Maker for sure, so like, we can dream, let me dream, okay? Now, that's gonna do it for my wants, my desires, and my expectations for an April Direct, but now, I toss over the mic to you guys. Go down in the comments section and let me know what games you would like to see in an April Direct. Are there some more indie games you wanna see some release dates for? Some more third-party games? Are there other games you're hoping to maybe hear a little bit more about? There's a bunch of games I didn't even talk about that we know. Like, do you guys know that video I made? Well, hey, check up here. Like, there's a video where I talked about all the games coming out in 2019. And like, there's like 40 plus games coming to Switch that are huge deals. And oh my gosh, the list seems to be expanding by the day. So, man, there could be a ton of games you wanna know about that we can hear about in this Direct, but I don't know. This is what I want, now I wanna hear what you want. And hey, keep dreaming. Tried Dreamcast guy, calling you out. Dance off. All right, folks, happy to set up that little footage from Nintendo Prime. I wanna thank you guys for tuning in. Be sure to enter our Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Smash Bundle Switch giveaway thing of a jigger through the clean dot I'll link down in the description. Oh, man, it's been a fun weekend. I'm gonna catch you guys in the next video.