We demystify what goes on behind the therapy room door. Join us on this voyage of discovery and co-creative conversations. This is The Therapy Show, behind closed doors podcast with Bob Cook and Jackie Jones. Welcome back to the next episode which is a hundred and twenty. No. Yes, I know. Shock and horror. That's a lot. It is a lot. We worked hard Bob. A hundred and twenty, which is titled Conquering the Toxic Narrative within the therapy process. Another wonderful title.  It is. It is. It's very simple, really, in the sense that mostly people that come to therapy, and this is a generalization I know, but I think it's backed up by clinical experience. Often a toxic narrative from their significant other, whether it be parents, foster parents, or whatever we're talking about. That toxic narrative they've taken on as if it was their own. It destroys self-esteem. It creates anxiety, often leads to depression, and they feel as if they're always tearing themselves off. They will report as people are very hard on themselves, and they haven't separated out what is their own narrative and what they've gained from their history. Yeah. I think this comes up an awful lot in therapy. Oh, that's right. Yeah.  Absolutely. I feel like I talk about this constantly. Oh, dear. Yeah. They'll even use the phrases that that internal dialogue uses in the therapy session. Yeah. But I think part of the process in therapy is to help the clients realize that it's not their narrative. Yeah. And they've actually taken it on. Yeah. It's an internalized narrative, but they feel and think it's their own. Yeah. Absolutely. And that empowers them then. They've got a choice then. But if they can separate out and understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Then at some point, they chose to take that on board. And if they can do that, then they can have they have a choice to not take it on board, if that makes sense. Yeah. And usually in therapy, you know, the narrative, they take on board instead of the toxic narrative, but this is a long process. It's often the therapists in the transferential process. So for example, you. Yeah. Yeah. I see that and I hear that as well, which it's I don't want to let my ego get in the way sometimes, but sometimes it does. You know, a client will sometimes say to me, you know, when that happens, I think, what would Jackie say? So it's kind of like they've got my words as well as that internal dialogue going on. Yeah. So if you think of it that way, inevitably, part of the therapy process will be competing narratives. Yeah. Yeah. Do we ever have our own? Do we do we ever replace it with our own? Do we just acknowledge the fact that we have that that doesn't belong to us?  In other words, they, they leave therapy and they still do what you have just talked about, which is they have taken on your narrative, which is far more positive, usually than the toxic narrative that they've got, which has created lack of self-esteem and all the things I talked about. However, if people leave therapy with that process, they haven't completed the treatment. Yeah. It's far better, of course, your narrative, a healthy narrative, than the one they often come with. But it's still not completed the process as far as I'm concerned. It's a step on the way. So we could look at this at least in a three-stage step. You know, if somebody comes with lack of self-esteem, lack of value in themselves, lack of importance, often feeling depressed or low mood, and repeatedly say to you they're hard on themselves, often the one that wants to therapist has heard the story. It's to help the therapist separate out. Sorry, help the clients separate out where that internal dialogue has come from or that internal narrative. And to be understood and to get to a place where they can understand what narrative is their own and what narrative is toxic parent that we're talking about here. Now, in that process, once they have done that, the second part of this process is usually by definition to take on a healthy parenting process. If you want to put it that way. Do we did a video on healthy re-parenting? I don't know how long ago. But to take on your healthy, usually the therapist's narrative, which is far better than the destructive narrative of the toxic parent. The next step, which I see is the near and the end of the final treatment, is where they practice the new narrative, which is yours. So the client says, well, under stress, when I hear these internalized toxic sentence constructions or narrative, I now think, well, what would Jackie say? And what is that more positive narrative? That's a great step in therapy. As I say, the next one is to really start integrating their own positive narrative in terms of their psychological personality. Now, they can't do that, I don't think, very straightforwardly without having practice that with the healthy commissions and narrative from the therapist. Once they've started to integrated that process, then they can start really integrating their own narrative, which will be, I think, the completion of therapy once they've integrated that. Yeah. So they don't gather therapy in stage two, which is almost like a copy of Jackie. Yeah, yeah. So that negative dialogue, will that always be there though? Because I think about, you know, when we're stressed, when we're overwhelmed, when we're tired, when we're ill and all that sort of stuff, we kind of go back to our scripted stuff a lot easier than when we're in top form. Okay. So I'm 72. And I recently had taken up pilates for my physical health, but also I've just developed or it's been coming on a long time an arthritic shoulder here. Yeah. So one of the things the physio said, and the Pilates person said, is that I need to not sleep on the right hand side, where my 15 and a half stone weight is always on the arthritic shoulder. That makes sense because it creates the pain and prolongs it. Yeah. So they both said, well, try sleeping on your good shoulder, which is the left hand side. Yeah. Now, I've been sleeping on the right hand side of 72, probably for 72 years. Yeah, it's habitual. Yeah, it's hard to get that one. It's so ingrained that I have tried sleeping on the left hand side. And after about 10 minutes, I honestly go back to sleep on the right. I've got to a place now where after lots of practice, I can probably do half an hour or an hour on the left hand side. But eventually it will take a lot of practice. Yeah. I will be able to change my habit of a lifetime. Yeah. And I think it's exactly the same psychologically. Yeah. This isn't a one of, oh, you can just suddenly sleep on the left hand side. If you've always been doing something for 72 years or whatever it is. This is a whole process we're talking about. Yeah. On either physical level, but in the sense of what we're talking about on this podcast, at a psychological level. Yeah. And it's a bit like you need to keep your hands on the steering wheel sometimes. If we let go, we revert back to things. So I can imagine, I've got a vision of you falling asleep on your left hand side and then waking up on your right hand side. And at some point in the night, you've turned over and gone back again. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Now, there's good news about that. Good news in all this, even though you... Good, I like good news in a therapy session, Bob. It doesn't take 72 years to change it. Yeah. In other words, I hope to have conquered this in about three months. So I don't do what you have had, what you've just said that in the morning, I wake up on the right hand side because throughout the night, I've moved back again. Yeah. So my favourite saying of all time is going to come out here, Jackie. Love it. That is therapy is a process, never an event. Yeah. So you're absolutely correct that integration, changing psychological habits won't just happen in six sessions or 10 sessions. This won't take time. The good news, as I've said, is it won't take anywhere near as much time, I'll say, maybe 72 years. I hope to have solved it and not solved it, but integrated new ways of being in the next 12 weeks. Yeah. It takes practice. Yeah. It's productivity. It takes resilience and it takes, you know, yeah, practice really. Yeah. Because for me, I think a lot that it's about noticing and awareness is the first thing because a lot of, I know a lot of my patterns in behaviour are habitual. I don't even think about them. It's not a conscious thing. I just habitually do certain things. But when we pay more attention to it, we notice what those habits are and it becomes more of a conscious thing rather than a subconscious thing. Absolutely correct. And going to therapy is one way. The therapist will help you become more aware. Absolutely. And I also think techniques like mindfulness, yeah, techniques which are about reflecting on your internal processes will help in the areas of awareness. You're absolutely correct. Awareness is very important. That alongside motivation, the two major planks takes people to therapy. Yeah. Go on. No, I'm just saying I've been doing some work with, I run a membership based on therapeutic principles and I've been doing some work on them about our values and beliefs and whose values and beliefs they actually are because I think we do inherit an awful lot with this question. So I've been encouraging them question, you know, who are you? What are your beliefs and values? And are they actually truly yours? Absolutely. Now, I think you said on the last podcast, you've said what I'm going to say on several podcasts. So I'm going to go back to what I think you said on the last podcast again. I think what really helps that process, what you're talking about is two chair work and a role play when they actually play the significant other in their head. Yeah. They go back to their younger self and have a dialogue between the two. And that helps them really in separating out and helps awareness, you know, very much quicker. So that again, have two chair work and have a dialogue with who? With themselves and their younger self? Younger self talking to their significant other, which perhaps in this case of this podcast, has been the person who's given out the negatives and the negative narrative here. Okay. Now, in that conversation, not only does the therapist hear the conversation, but the client themselves becomes more aware because they're externally dialogue-ing. Yeah. Well, we're talking about here. Yeah. One of the really, really big losses for two chair take, you know, if you wanted to start practicing it, even if it's well playing, is the increase of awareness between the two parts of the self. I did an assessment with somebody the other day, and she was talking about the two, she was talking about anxiety, but she was also talking about the two parts of the self that were competing in this competitive narrative. Now, I passed on to a therapist, but I hope the therapist does two chair technique at the correct time in the psychotherapy sequence where, you know, she externally plays out or well plays the two parts of the self because that will increase awareness if nothing else. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely need to grow a pair and start doing some two chair work. I think once you do it, I talk a lot with clients about having a conversation or an interaction with the younger self, the them of today having a conversation with the younger self. And I suppose that is two chair work, really, isn't it? It is. And I suspect, and I don't know, I'm guessing this with you and I might be completely well, but I guess that perhaps instead of doing two chair work, you might do things like, well, go and write a letter to your younger self. Yeah. Go and write a letter back to your internal fatigue. I bet you do things like that. Absolutely. What would the you of today say to the you when you're 13 or whatever it is? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So it's a very, it's not a big step, then, just to tell them to talk to a cushion or a chair and do some well play. Yeah. So I know this is not what we're talking, and we do need to do a full session on this, but do you literally get them to move positions when they're doing it? Absolutely. That is important. Yeah, right. Okay. Some therapists might not. I think it's important because I believe in the energetic response. In other words, I, you know, human beings are basically made up of energy. So if they move from one energy place to another, they will feel differently. Yeah. And I've done that in a therapy session when the clients felt overwhelmed or really anxious all of a sudden, I've got them to get up and move to a different position. So I've, you know, I've done that, but not the two chair work stuff. It would be a very small step for you. You'd find it, I think, very important in your practice. And then I also think you'd be surprised that you never practiced it before. Yeah. I'm definitely on the verge, Bob. Definitely on the verge of giving it a go. So in terms of this podcast anyway, I think that particular techniques helps the two things. It helps for awareness and what you are talking about, what you've just talked about. Awareness being a key to this separating out of, you know, their own narrative and the critics' narrative. And I think that's important. Yeah. Once they do that, they're onto a winner. Yeah. One of the other topics that comes up around that internal dialogue with my clients an awful lot of the time is that impasse that when our critical parent is having a go at us, we'll often go into our rebellious child and then we kind of keep the cycle going. That's something that comes up an awful lot. The realisation when a client hears that, it's like, God, yeah, that's what I do all the time, literally. They go into the compliant vulnerable self or they go into the rebellious younger self and keep the cycle going. Yeah. So the bit is how they move away to an adult position. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And again, the thing I love about transactional analysis is the diagrams that we have to represent this that kind of brings it all together. So I'm just in the moments of actioning a project, which is an educational project and I'm going to get a film and company in film me doing some educational videos. And one of them is on contracting. One of them is on methods of an integrative psychotherapy. One of them is on running a relational group therapy. And I put down one of them as a parent interview or tour or two chair work. So in other words, I intend to do five educational value videos, which have gone on a website. It'll be free and people can go and watch techniques of a psychotherapist has been around for quite a long time. Fantastic. So you'd be able to see the two chair work in accident when I've done it. But talking to the parental interject or the critic that we're talking about here, I think is a really important part here, mainly again, because the other part of the self is listening on. So if they aren't able to talk to the critic, then the therapist can talk to the critic on behalf of the therapist or younger self. Yeah. And that that's the thing I can remember this in our training and observing it and how powerful it actually was that sometimes the therapist challenged that part. And when you said then that the younger self or that other part of us is hearing the conversation and we do internalize it. So it is so powerful, Bob. That's what I meant at the beginning about how we can you know, change the narrative of the toxic parent. However, in some cases, the adapted child or the rebellious child or the younger self, whatever language you want to use, hasn't got the words or the they've been too hard to stand up for this toxic parent. That's why nothing's changed. Yeah. And I need the therapist to protect them. Yeah. Stand up for them if you like. Yeah. And just by and the client just by hearing that other awarenesses will start happening. Yeah. And somewhere mixed in around that I would imagine that it builds trust and at a deeper level between the therapist and the client as well having the client do that standing up for them or talking for them or challenging for them. It deepens that relationship as well. That's right. Oh, completely. And it will be very empowering. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the clients who report extreme low self-esteem or report extreme anxiety or report low mood or mild depression are usually the clients to also report in the same sentence that they're very hard on themselves. I know I repeated this earlier in the podcast, but I think it's worth a repeat. And therefore this is the work the therapist needs to start helping the person to develop a different level of awareness. It's not their narrative. It comes from somewhere else. And this is so important for them to realise that. And the rest will follow from that. Yeah. Yeah. I love the fact that you related it to the self-worth and self-esteem and all that sort of stuff because sometimes I could be talking about me now to refer that internal dialogue kind of keeps putting us back in a box instead of us having the ability to stand in our own, I would sort of speak, and to achieve the things that we want to achieve in life. Yeah. I think it's a fine balance. Here's some examples for you. Well-known violinists, well-known actors, I could go on the list where the parent has had this high internal critic narrative and the younger child has had to match up by being perfect or getting things right for the exacting parent. Yeah. That's why I said violinists or musicians or any of the artistic process we're talking about here, where the internal critic, the mother, the father, has been so exacting on them that they've had to please this perfect parent. And they turn into parents usually when they grow older, acting, thinking and feeling just like the parent that was to them. Yeah. There's many examples. And of course, unfortunately or fortunately, whichever way you want to look at this, the parents will say, well, I'm only doing for the best intentions because we want them to be really successful. We want them to be XXX. And you've got to be perfect to really succeed this way. And we're only doing for their best interests. So that's interesting. And you usually, again, find out, if you start talking to the parental part of the client, that their own parents were like that with them. Yeah. And then they pass it down to their children. I say that sometimes. Not necessarily in a therapeutic situation, but I do say it with my kids that sometimes I open my mouth and my mum comes out. The words that my mum used to say to me, I find it hard, the rattling round in my head sometimes. Yeah. Sure.  But I can hear her say now, well, I only did if you're your best attentions and the best, you know, XXXX. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't have achieved what you are if it wasn't for me pushing you or whatever it is. Yeah. The problem is, of course, is that in that process, the child growing up often loses themselves and their own identity because they are programmed to be a certain way and please the parent by adopting what they want rather than what they want. Yeah. Yeah. It is something that I'm looking at with a lot of my clients and my members in the membership is, you know, for them to look, and it's surprising how many of them say, I don't actually know who I am. Yeah. Exactly who I am.  But, you know, I'll say, well, what brings you joy? What likes your soul? What makes you happy? And they honestly struggle to find an answer. They don't actually know. Well, if they've got an overwhelming parent taking up all the energy in the psychological space, usually not much space for the younger self to explore, to have a sense of spontaneity, to understand what they actually want. And again, it's that habitual behaviour, isn't it? We don't really slow it down enough to pay attention to it. It's just, well, we've all have always done this. But do you enjoy doing it? I've never really thought about it. Who sent you those messages in the first place? Yeah. It usually comes, as I say, if you trace this back, the messages, the patterns, may go back generations. Yeah. Yeah. A bit like a hot potato. I remember that actual phrase, yeah, it's a hot potato and it's just passed through generations. Yeah. And the clients need to stop it. Yeah. Them to enhance their own sense of who they are in the world. So self-esteem grows. Yeah. Depression ceases. Anxiety is replaced by relaxation. Yeah. Intentment. Yeah. Because when we're only trying to please ourself and not this imaginary thing in our head, life does become so much easier. You know, it's not that we get it right all the time. We're not going to get it perfect. We'll make mistakes, but there are mistakes. And that's, that's absolutely fine. As long as we're not harming anybody else. Well, let's book another dimension this podcast. Freud, who was the, let's say the godfather of psychology all these years ago, not necessarily psychotherapy, but certainly the creative psychoanalysis, came up and wrote, you know, I think it was the book hysteria a long, long time ago, 100 years ago or whatever, said that we, and he meant it metaphorically, we often marry our parents. Oh, god forbid. Yeah. Now, so when we marry our parents, do we just replace one for the other? Or do we replace one with totally the opposite of the other? Yeah. Or, you know, it's an interesting, because when you look at it that way, and for people listening, perhaps a couple of therapists, will really know what I'm talking about here. I, when you were saying that I've got an imagination, though, that there's probably 80 or 90% of the listeners going OMG. Yeah. That's, that's what I've done. Either the complete opposite or somebody very similar to them. Yeah. Yeah. The good news is that if the partner's or husband's wives or significant guys, if they love and care enough for you, they'll stay with you in this process of change. Yeah. And I often say that to buyers when we're talking about communication in couples problems or whatever it is, if they care enough about you, they'll stay with you. Through the process. Yeah. This process out. Yeah. There's an interesting one to think about, especially for couples therapists. Yeah. And to look at how the scripts may interlock between the two partners. Yeah. Absolutely. See, that would be a good podcast. How to, how to resolve interlocking scripts within the therapy process, wouldn't it? Yeah. Well, I'll tell you where you would start. First of all, you help two people become aware of that, but the healing will be many, many generations back, not in the present. No. Which is a really interesting thing. Yeah. Therapy is all about how the past affects the present. And here we're talking about how we can, you know, help the person have a more enhanced quality of life, really. How they can de-sensitise, change or resolve or quieten the internal critic and how to bring their own voice louder. Yeah. I've really enjoyed this one, Bob. That's what therapy is about, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And it's really relevant. Like I said, I don't think there's a week goes by or a day goes by where this doesn't come up at some point in the therapy room for me. Yeah. Sure. All the therapists or maybe some clients are listening will, you know, really understand what we're talking about, I hope. Yeah. Me too. So next time we'll be talking about what do you mean by relational therapy or what is relational therapy? That's a big question, especially in 19, especially in 2023. Yeah. So until next time, Bob, thank you so much. You're welcome. Bye. Bye. You've been listening to The Therapy Show behind closed doors podcast. We hope you enjoyed the show. Don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review. We'll be back next week with another episode.


Welcome to the Everton News Daily. Carlo Anciolotti praised his side after the 2-1 victory against Leicester City at Gwladyshire Park last night. The Italians said that Everton firmly in the hunt for a Europa League place, although it did accept that it would be a difficult challenge for the Blues, given the amount of teams that are also in that race. For Anciolotti said he was very pleased with the result, if not so, the performance as Everton had to battle to grind out a 2-1 win against Leicester City. Goals from Richard Ellison and a gilfy sigurd and penalty Everton's face for 38 games was enough to give the Blues the victory. Anciolotti said it'll be difficult but we must fight and keep our focus until the very last minute of the last game of this season. Also praised Anthony Gordon, said that Gordon is in on merit and doing really well. Anthony Gordon with his face to assist for the club, lovely ball in for a charleson for Everton's opening goal and he'll be delighted with his manager's comments praising him. Anciolotti had an update on the charleson as well, he also had to lead the game early with a look like an ankle injury after Wilfred and Diddy had caught him with a bit of a naughty challenge. But he said Richard Ellison should be fit for Everton's visit to Tottenham Hotspain on Monday night, so that's good news there. Everton today have completed the signing of March 8 left-back Neals Cuckoo, he's a 19-year-old left-back. Everton apparently beat off interest from Juventus and RB Leipzig to sign a player on a free transfer. He signed down the opportunity of a contract with Marcel to join Everton on a three-year deal. Marcel Brand said that Everton had been following him for months. He said Neals is a very young, talented player with good technical and physical ability. He hopes that he'll take the same path as what Dominic Albert Lewin and Mason Holgate have done in recent years, going in as a young player and getting in and being an important member of Everton's first team. He also said about laying off the likes of Leucadine and then said hopefully he can lay off the likes of Leighton Bains as well. So some people have read into that, that Bains may be ready to commit to another 12 months. Everton have offered a 35-year-old left-back another year at the club. I think that would be really good for Erton Cuncw's development to have Bains there as well. It would allow him to come in and work with Bains and with Dean, play some games in the 23s and see how it's done. Maybe because it definitely will be Bains his last season if he resigns a contract next year, then maybe he can become the understudy to Leucadine. So interest in that brand was including Bains in that as well. Everton a Hummel will tomorrow reveal the new home jersey for next season. Hummel agreed to be the new kit manufacturer of Everton five weeks ago now and Evertonians have been bombarding them on Twitter with when we're going to get to see the new kit. Well tomorrow is the day that it will be revealed tomorrow morning. Low to blues looking forward to seeing Hummel's first effort at an Everton home kit. It should be interesting, it should be very interesting looking forward to seeing it. Everton today being linked with the move for Rangers striker Alfredo Moreles, but we've been told there's nothing really in that one. And the Gabrielle deal apparently, according to French media, is still alive. Everton we know has spoke to Leal, we're happy with the original terms, they agreed back in February and are waiting for Leal to drop the price basically if they're going to make this deal, get this deal across the line. I guess it depends who else is in for the Brazilian centre but it looks a really good player. But if French media is saying that Everton, they think Everton will win the race but we'll have to see whether Leal have a change of heart on how much they want for him. That is it, make sure you subscribe in the video, a thumbs up, join us over on Patreon. A final word is out, make sure you check that as well. See you later.


Hello, I am Francesca Coccia and I am a group leader in the Structure Biology Centre at Human Second Opol. Hi, I'm Dario Guerrini and I'm a Bachelor of Intership student in the Coccia group. Hi, I'm Angelica Crittelli, I'm a visitor scientist. Hi, I'm Irene Bognardi. My research group focuses on unraveling the molecular mechanisms of thyroid function and disease. The thyroid is a little gland found here in the neck which is responsible for the synthesis of important metabolic hormones. At least 10% of the population has a thyroid disease in his lifetime. So in order to devise better therapeutic strategies we need to go deeper in this system and we are doing this using Structure Biology starting from single proteins to cells and then to organoids. Recently for this project called Thyromol we received the European Research Council ERC starting brand and I am so excited to carry out this project with my group at Human Second Opol for its upstanding facilities, international environment and the possibility of building a research institute from scratch. Here in Francesca Coccia's group I am using an integrated structural biology approach to study the molecular basis of some thyroid related diseases. The focus of my research was the very first part of the structural and functional characterization of transcription factor which is implied in many pathological and physiological mechanisms in thyroid biology. My research is focused on thyroid cancer. During these first months in HT I have learned to work on my very own project which is at the same time deeply integrated with the one of the group. So in this sense you learn to work independently but at the same time to cooperate with other scientists and different people from different fields. The most important thing I bring back to my institution is that even those projects that seem to be distant from ours could be a precious hint for our studies. The best opportunity that Human Technopole gave me so far was the opportunity to work in the lab bench and translate what I learned in the bachelor degree in biotechnology into practical work. I chose Human Technopole because I believe it is one of a kind institution in Italy for scientific research and because of the strong synergism that is in this institution between professionals with different backgrounds. Here I can really work with very advanced techniques and instruments that are not that common even in Europe. So if I had to define Human Technopole with three words I would definitely use exciting interdisciplinary and science. HT for me means opportunity, community and growth. I'd say international environment, inclusion and cutting edge technologies. HT for me means stimulating new promising environment. It is also international so this gives a great opportunity to interact with people coming from different countries and having different background experiences. Please join us at Human Technopole to develop your career in science.


This study aims to fully characterize the genomes of multi-driven resistant, NDR, and antimicrobial susceptible Escherichia coli strains isolated from pre-winged calves, post-winged calves, dry cows, and lactating cows on commercial dairy operations. The results indicate that both susceptible and resistant E. coli isolates recovered from animals on commercial dairy operations are highly diverse and encode a large pool of virulence factors. In total, 838 transferable antimicrobial resistance genes, ARGs, were detected, with genes conferring resistance to aminoblycosides being the most common. Multiple sequence types associated with mild to severe human gastrointestinal and extraintestinal infections were identified. A Fisher's exact test identified 619 genes that were significantly enriched in NDR isolates and 147 genes that were significantly enriched in susceptible isolates. Significantly enriched genes in NDR isolates include the iron scavenging aerobactin synthesis and receptor genes, UKBCDIDA, the CIT-ABCD system, the PFIMBRE E-PAP genes, muonositol catabolism, IOL-Aptigiatia, and ascorbate transport genes. The results demonstrate a highly diverse population of E. coli and commercial dairy operations, some of which encode virulence genes responsible for severe human infections and resistance to antibiotics of human health significance. Further, the enriched accessory genes in NDR isolates, aerobactin, CIT, PFIMBRE, and muonositol catabolism in ascorbate transport genes represent potential targets for reducing colonization of antimicrobial resistant bacteria in the calf gut. This article was authored by Brad J. Haley, C. N. Woo Kim, Sarah J. Salaheen, and others. We're article.tv, links in the description below.


Hello and welcome to this presentation of the STM32 System Window Watchdog. It will cover the main features of this peripheral used to detect software faults. The Window Watchdog is used to detect the occurrence of software faults. The Window Watchdog can be programmed to detect abnormally late or early application behavior. It is best suited for applications required to react within an accurate timing window. Once enabled, it can only be disabled by a device reset. An early wake-up interrupt can be generated before a reset happens to perform a system recovery or manage certain actions before a system restart. The Window Watchdog offers several features. The user can program the timeout value and the window width according to application needs. It can generate a reset under two conditions. When the down counter value becomes less or equal to 0x3f or when the Watchdog is refreshed outside the time window. It can generate an early wake-up interrupt when the down counter reaches 0x40. The early wake-up interrupt can be used to reload the down counter in order to avoid a reset generation or to manage system recovery and context backup operations. As shown in the figure, the Window Watchdog uses the APB clock or PCLK as reference clock for its time base. The PCLK is provided by the RCC block. This clock is divided by 4096 and by a value programmed by the application. The application can also program the reload value of the down counter bits T6 to 0. The window width is controlled by bits W, 6 to 0. The STM32MP1 includes a Window Watchdog dedicated to Cortex M4 usage. WWDG1 is connected to the APB1 bus and the APB clock must be enabled via WWDGEN bit prior to use of the WWDG1. The WWDG1 early interrupt output is connected to the NVIC and to the GIC so that both Cortex M4 and A7 can handle the interrupt. The WWDG1 reset output is connected to the RCC and generates a reset of the Cortex M4 only. In addition, this reset output is connected to the EXTI in order to activate the Cortex A7 when a window watchdog reset occurs. This feature allows the Cortex A7 to restart properly the Cortex M4 if needed. It is possible to select if the watchdog will be frozen when the Cortex M4 is in debug mode, core halted. Please refer to the MPU debug unit, dvgmcu description for details. Note as well that window watchdog is frozen when the Cortex M4 is in C stop or standby mode but can remain active when it is in C sleep mode. This diagram illustrates how the window watchdog operates. When the 7-bit down counter rolls over from 0x40 to 0x3F the watchdog asserts the reset. This happens if the application software does not refresh the window watchdog on time. The early wake-up interrupt or EWI, if enabled, can be generated when the down counter reaches 0x40. If the software refreshes the watchdog while the down counter is greater than the value stored in bits, W6 to 0, a reset is generated. This happens when the application refreshes the watchdog too early. No interrupt is generated in this case. To prevent a window watchdog reset, the watchdog refresh must happen while the down counter value is lower than the time window value and greater than 0x3F. This is illustrated by the green area. The refresh operation consists of reloading the down counter with bits T6 to 0. To enable the window watchdog clock, the corresponding window watchdog-enabled it in the RCC block must be set to 1. Note that once the APP clock for the watchdog is enabled, the application cannot disable it. Only a system reset can disable the watchdog clock. A low-power-enabled it can be set as well and the application wishes to keep the window watchdog activated even if the CPU is in sleep mode. The down counter uses the APB clock PCLK divided by 4096 and again divided by a division ratio selected by the application. It can be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 or 128 as defined in the WWDG CFR register. The formula shown in this slide lets you determine the watchdog timeout value. When a system reset occurs, it is possible to identify which parts cause the reset thanks to status flags provided by the RCC block. The window watchdogs can be one of the sources. The early wake-up interrupt or EWI can be used in order to perform emergency tasks before the reset occurs, such as data logging, data protection, watchdog refresh in order to prevent the reset or other emergency tasks. The EWI interrupt occurs whenever the down counter value reaches 0x40. It is enabled by setting the EWI bit in the WWDG CFR register. The EWI interrupt is cleared by writing 0 to the EWIF bit in the WWDG SR register. The window watchdog is active when the Cortex-M4 is in C-run and C-sleep modes. It is not available in stop or standby modes. In C-sleep mode, the window watchdog clock can be disabled by clearing the corresponding low power enable bit located in the RCC block.


These scary good grapplers are so horrifying that they make you hide behind the sofa, look out over your shoulder, and remind yourself that wrestling is just fake, right? That being said, I'm Kevin Callis, this is Wrestling Behind The Themes, and you better subscribe right now or else, because here are the 15 eerie entrance theme songs that fuel my nightmares. He's back and perhaps more sinister than ever, but with Bray Wyatt having gone through multiple personality shifts during his unconventional wrestling career, his masked madman, Alter Ego the Fiend, and his peculiar pack of puppets were a disturbing and demented double team. Out of the darkness, everything came together at a stale point in WWE programming to produce one of the scariest acts of all time. However, it's the creepy and killer reimagined remix of the Wyatt Family's original theme song by Grammy Award-winning heavy metal band Code Orange that rages with the words hurt and heal, becoming an eerie earworm. Many wrestlers have claimed that they are the ruler of the squared circle, but only one superstar has the rightful claim as the master and ruler of the world. Standing at nearly 7 feet tall, Sid Vicious was one of the most physically imposing superstars in wrestling history, but it wasn't until Sid snapped that he fully reached his humongous potential. Psycho Sid became the WWE's version of a horror movie serial killer, a sadistic competitor who stomped to the ring to this Jim Johnston theme that obviously incorporates some of the scary string work from the movie thriller Psycho. Clowns scare a lot of people, and throughout pop culture, they're inescapable. From Stephen King's it franchise to John Wayne Gacy, the once friendly character is now forever a frightening fiend. In the WWF's new generation era, the Fed came up with the idea of their own clown character, giving birth to one of the most haunting wrestlers on this list. Don't think the clown started friendly, but slowly became the twisted clown that would cement his legacy. The gleam in his evil eye could not hide the monster that lurked behind the makeup, and this theme music was psychotically perfect too. Dexter Loomis is a character committed to creepiness with every action he performs, designed to a nerve in the most frightening way possible. Loomis has the best death stare in the business, drawing you in with his pale blue eyes before his intense pupils drill straight into your soul. Adding further to his eerie gimmick is this sinister synthwave, Stranger Things-inspired entrance theme called Arrival, that will surely have you peeking out over your bedsheets at night hoping Dexter doesn't arrive in your home uninvited. Throughout the history of TNA, no star was more destructive or violent than the force known as the monster Abyss. With Father James Mitchell in tow, when you heard the opening notes of his down in the catacombs theme, you knew destruction was on its way. Abyss frighteningly gave away so much of his body through the years to barbed wire and thumbtacks and glass shards. And while he is now working as a backstage producer with the WWE and able to leave the mask behind, Abyss will forever be synonymous with the chaos that is Doomsday. Gangrel sure did reek, not of garlic, but of the 1990s with his Buffy the Vampire Slayer-inspired character fanging and banging in the WWE to the haunting whispers an eerie gothic-like theme of blood. The Bone-Chilling Song by former WWE composer Jim Johnston. Luckily for fans who have thirsted for more of this cult-hero classic, The Rated-R Super Star Edge brought back this infectious banger for his Summer Slam 2021 match against Seth Rollins and also incorporated the legendary fire entrance that the Brood used to have. After having been released from his Ring of Honor contract in January 2021, the villain Marty Skurl has been noticeably MIA. However, Marty the Party is still one of the most unique personalities to come along in professional wrestling in years. Aside from being a great in-ring competitor, the UK-based Skurl stands out in a very intriguing way. The outfit, the bird mask, the umbrella, and his one true villain theme song is an eerily dark track with no vocals other than the occasional whoop whoop. Aside from the ninth wonder of the world, China, karma is perhaps the most dominant female to ever step inside the squared circle. In an era where most of the WWE divas looked more like over-inflated Barbie dolls than athletes, the wrestler also known as Awesome Kong was the Anti-Diva. But what made karma even scarier was her Jim Johnston-produced, imposing entrance theme called Bad Karma. The maniacal laugh that echoed through arenas made the other divas quiver with fear, and this theme literally scares the pants off me every time I hear it. The Boogeyman was a bizarre creature featured in the mid-2000s WWE, with a constant craving for worms and a twisted desire to smash a clock over his head. Boogey would emerge from the backstage darkness, coming to get members of the SmackDown roster. And always good for a one-off appearance around Halloween or for the occasional Royal Rumble cameo. He wasn't so much a scary or spooky character, but just downright nasty. I mean, the dude literally ate Gillian Hall's weird facial wart thing. And just thinking about that right now still haunts me to this day. From the fabled Isle of Samoa have come a great number of tough individuals who have dominated pro wrestling through the years.  Managed on different occasions by Pauly dangerously, and the big kahuna, Sir Oliver Humperdink, Samu and Fatu portrayed savages who wouldn't sell any moves attempted at their domes almost like they were channeling their inner Michael Myers nose selling for Jamie Lee Curtis. How fitting it is then that the SST used John Carpenter's theme from Halloween as entrance music. For 25 years, the big red monster terrorized the WWE with his menacing presence and supernatural powers. Debuting as the Undertaker's younger brother at 1997's Bad Blood Pay Per View, Kane sent children running in fear after ripping the door off of the Hell in the Cell, manhandling the monstrous dead man and setting the Ring of Blaze in a raging inferno. Over his hall of fame career, Kane emerged with various themes, but Vale of Fire is his most horrifying. Sounding ominous AF, the awe-inspiring church organ opening and groaning guitar throughout convey the devil's favorite demon's evil incarnation. This creepy theme sounds like a graveyard remix and was one of the scariest songs ever used by a WCW wrestler. From the mists of the arcane and macabre comes the mysterious masked warrior Mortis. Now, wrestling's version of Mortal Kombat back in 1997 caused many fans to unfortunately flatline due to the gimmick limitations with the Blood Runs Cold angle. However, Chris Canyon stood out as the pitfighting reptile hybrid with his innovative moveset and what was at the time certainly one of the most amazing outfits to be worn in wrestling. During the early regional territory days of pro wrestling, a lot of fans didn't necessarily know that much about the world in general. So when the Ugandan giant Kamala was announced as hailing from the deepest darkest jungles of Africa, stomping to the ring with a spear in one hand, shield in the other, and an absolutely crazy looking tribal mask, he scared the bejesus out of everybody. Now, fans would normally flock down to the aisle to get a glimpse of practically every wrestler. But when Kamala made his entrance to this savage war drum theme music, well, they just high-tailed it for the rafters. The OG horror show of WWE was none other than Papa Shango, who in the early 1990s spooked fans by bringing his voodoo black magic and eerie rituals to the world of wrestling. The witch doctor frightened anybody who watched WWE programming with his face painted up like a skeletal demon while his frightening theme song played in the background like a looming fog sweeping over a murky swamp. Now Papa Shango may not have achieved much in the way of success, especially since he had trouble telling time at WrestleMania 8, but things turned out okay for him in the end. No other superstar in sports entertainment has been surrounded by myth and legend like The Undertaker. From the moment he hauntingly debuted at the 1990 Survivor Series, The Dead Man has remained one of the most frightening figures not only in the squared circle but in all of pop culture. Over his 30-year career, Taker's theme music evolved from a graveyard orchestral ode to the fan of the opera, to the rap rock of Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock, and back to a funeral death march dirge, making the Phenom's entrance one of the scariest symphonies in the world of wrestling.


Can I ask you a question? Maybe. What's up? Why would you sacrifice? Sacrifice what? No one you could die, no body by your side Well, I have friends, so I'm not really worried about that I know niggas cap cap and bitches like are you okay? What's wrong? Came from dirt can't go back. You can see it in my eyes But you're good now. You're crying over literally.  Wait, did you take something? I should know about all I wanted What's some love trade that for a gun? Answer my question. Did you take anything big back on me now?  Why are you acting so secretive? I thought we were cool I don't trust you as far as I can throw you and I do not go to the gym I don't really want friends everybody fake. I don't got trust. Okay, so why are you texting me then? But I just want to slide. What do you want to do? Party's in the sky like it's 2055. If you want a sneaky link, you could just say that She said boy, you nice boy, you nice. Okay, come over and show me that energy Hard cold like some water and some ice Come over and we can warm up That's exactly what I'm doing. So why are we still text but she's on go I still got some leftover alcohol if you're trying to oh she trying to get freaky I could get you brushed brushed. What do you mean by that? Sometimes I got me stuck. Sorry. I can't open up come over and I'll open up for you Try got a compromise We do got a compromise because my dad's still home.  He won't be forget, but he don't know it coming fries You're not fighting my dad. I'll just sneak you in That's a case of nice. Please don't play with my son.  I know they love that line


Hey everyone, you're about to watch a video that's gonna get thousands of views very cool But your ad needs to be right here. Give me a call Thursday July 27th marks the one-year anniversary of the devastating East Kentucky floods in which many people lost their homes and some lost their lives Governor Andy Beshear made an appearance in Prestonsburg to announce a two million dollar housing project for the flood survivors in the area in Total 33 houses will be built in Prestonsburg across two vacant lots Well, we're pleased as we sit here a year later that we have 300 homes that are habitable again Either being mucked out or repaired or or built from from scratch We have three high ground communities. Well, if you consider this one now four that we have announced across Kentucky Due to some federal permitting requirements I'm disappointed that we haven't been able to break ground yet, but if we did too early We lose that 300 million dollars in federal funding So a little bit frustrated at the federal bureaucracy But knowing and believing that we are going to get those done here at the least in the fall If not the late summer and then you will see not just homes coming up But neighborhoods coming up Beshear's hope for the future is that the citizens of east Kentucky continue to rebuild better than before Construction on the vacant lots is expected to begin soon One of the biggest challenges we have is that this much water Destroyed over a billion dollars of water and sewer systems Now that lets us rebuild and rebuild better and rebuild in a way that addresses major challenges that existed before But it continues to be a lot of work But if we remain committed we continue to keep our promise What we will have at the end of the day will be something special not just Rebuilt neighborhoods, but revitalized neighborhoods new schools senior living medical Facilities access to services that may not have existed before our goal has to be better for people who've been through so much We already have our utility folks that are here As you can see the buildings around it's close the powers here The waters here actually the firefighters were telling me the pressure is really good here and so Having the utilities close by will create a faster timetable They were telling me that they think they're going to be pouring slabs in the very near future reporting for mountaintop news. I'm nick column


Hello, this is Karl Ackerman, host of Journeys of the Mind, and are we lucky today? We have Dr. David Ball and Dr. Pam Sakamoto, and I use their appellations because they are very important, although we couldn't use them on our written comments for the show. But they are very important, and they are both program coordinators for the Davis Democracy Initiative. The first thing I want to ask both of you is, in this time of turmoil, and especially on university campuses where people don't seem to be talking to one another, can you define what you were doing, and I think what you're doing is so wonderful. So I'll ask that question to both of you, unless why don't we start with David? Well, first, Karl, thanks for having us. It's really exciting to be here. I think what you're describing about the difficulties we're having nationally around having reasonable, fact-based conversations where disagreement takes place. I think this is a national epidemic, if not a global one, and so I think your concerns are shared by the two of us, and by Punahou and the Davises more generally. I think what we're hoping to do with the initiative is create the conditions, the habits of mind, and a curriculum that really allows students to, in a fact-based manner, have meaningful disagreements with one another to learn from one another. That's become increasingly challenging. There's some technological reasons for that. There's some historical reasons for that. We have a lot of unfinished business in this country, too, about how do we coordinate a truly multiracial, multi-identity democratic nation, and it hasn't been tried at the scale before, and I think we're experiencing some real growing pain. So those are the questions you raise or questions that we're thinking deeply about. Yeah, thank you. I'll just add that there's never been a better time than now, but when this was conceived of a few years ago and then launched by Dave and the school, in February it just seemed as if it was more critical than ever to provide then news for conversations to cultivate civil discourse to train our students from K through 12 and how to be active citizens, to give them a voice when often many of the issues surrounding all of us seem intractable and overwhelming, that this is actually an initiative with a lot of hope for the future. Well, Pam, I'm going to go to you now and ask you, and I'm going to ask the same question to David. So be prepared. You know, what brought you to this work? You know, I know that you were an accomplished author. You have a PhD from the University of Hawaii, and I want to emphasize with, you know, 10 exclamation points accomplished to author. So, you know, what brought you to this work? Oh, thank you. Well, actually, my PhD is from the Fletcher School at Tufts University. So I'm a mistake. It's in international relations and diplomatic history. I think that I just came off five years as department head in social studies in the academy. So grades nine through 12, that punahoe. And one of the topics of conversation within the department has long as for a long time been civics. Now, at different points in many schools across the state and the country, a civics course will be put into place. In our department, we decided that we wanted to weave civics throughout the curriculum, and that seems to be a general tendency at our school. So since I was seeing so much in my administrative role, so many opportunities and sometimes missed opportunities to explore the values of what it means to be a citizen in a democracy. It just became more and more evident that this was a really purposeful work. I also have to say that Dave and I co-teach a course called Bison America, which is a second semester version of the US history from the Civil War to the Present and American Literature for juniors and seniors at our school. And we're constantly experimenting with how we can teach students to be good consumers of digital information in a digital landscape that is increasingly populated by misinformation and disinformation. And we're teaching students how to cultivate a voice and that this work leads directly into that. And I think teaching and thinking hard about speakers and curriculum, those are really intertwined tasks. So for me, it's fun and challenging and mission driven. And I'll give the floor to Dave. And, and David, you know, I made a mistake. I'm so sorry, Pat, with the Fletcher School as your PhD, but David, is it your PhD? I've been asked the question as opposed to making a mistake because I made a mistake. So you're from, from, from that small university in Princeton, New Jersey, isn't it? Yeah, the very orange one. Yeah, the, yes, with the, with the tiger, right? Right. Like the more interest, the more interesting question is, you know, sort of how you translate ideas to action. So the build on what Pam was talking about, about our sort of curricular and pedagogical goals. I think what's at the core of this work for both Pam and myself is how do you invent students that they can take their talents and their ideas and translate them into action that has, you know, a meaningful effect in their world. And for me, I was a young assistant professor in central Pennsylvania in Cumberland County, and it just so turned out, started in 2008, that it was the most purple county and the most purple state in the nation with a very consequential election and a historical one. And I just started, you know, rather than be a sad bachelor in my split apartment away from my wife, I decided to, you know, walk into the, the local volunteer office and started getting involved, started asking questions, who's registering our students? How are we getting to the polls? Do we have answers to these questions? And it was an election that really engaged young people. And then in 2008, became 2012, 2012 became 2016. When I moved here in 2017, I started asking the same questions, obviously a very different political landscape, both nationally and locally. But, you know, and then I started finding people who are asking similar questions to me. And then we were fortunate enough with the general city of the Davis family to really have, reading about, to really have the gift of our time of Pam's and my time to devote to this work, to make these resources easier to access for teachers, to make that available to schools beyond Palau. And so we're thinking a lot about independent school and public school collaborations. We're thinking a lot about bringing in experts, both in Hawaii and beyond Hawaii, to our students. And we're thinking about K-12 initiatives, where we're wondering and the research suggests that the earlier that you can do this work, you can develop these civic habits and these civic dispositions. The more long-lasting there are for young people's lives. So there's a really tremendous opportunity I think that's here. Well, you touched on the sort of public nature of this initiative. And so can you, David or Pam or and Pam, can you give me examples of sort of the democracy and initiative both on the Punahou campus and also in the community? And I must preface this by saying that your launch had almost every political figure in the Punahou Chapel and all the major stakeholders. You did a good job from your launch on and I was so happy to see. And of course, I was truly impressed that that young man called Senator Brian Schatz was there, who was one of the most impressive gifts to democracy in the United States. But we won't talk anymore about Brian. Okay, so... Well, you can't say Brian Schatz without saying Punahou alumnus, right? Those two words have to have to follow. I mean, he's one of our own and we claim him.  When we're thinking about public initiatives, sometimes it can be as something as simple as something I'm really excited about, spring is we're making our campus available to the Department of Education to host their civic education professional development. So we're going to have 225 educators from around the state come in and use our theater, use our resources in order to deepen their knowledge about civic education and how they can act this in our classrooms. And then we're fortunate enough to have a large enough space that there's lots of room for H.I.S. Hawaii Association of Independence School instructors to learn alongside those DOE educators and to really try and break down those walls. Sometimes it's a public lecture. We're hoping oftentimes a model now for public schools is just something as simple as getting a bus to get to an event. So it might be something as simple as chartering a bus for a partner school where our students and their students can be in conversation and community with one another. When I talk to our students about what they're really excited to do, they're really excited to build bridges between their school and other schools. And oftentimes our schools come into community with one another in a competitive atmosphere. Usually it's on the sports field. And we're really wondering how can we build that into a collaborative sphere where we're not on separate teams but we're working together to solve common problems. That's a wonderful example, Ben. I'll just add one more example because I know many other examples in other spheres, too. We work closely with the University of Hawaii Manoa's Richardson School of Law as well as the university itself and their Better Tomorrow Speaker series. And this semester at the beginning of the school year, we co-hosted Maya Kobabe, who is the author of the most banned book in America to talk about freedom of speech and LGBTQ issues and how to navigate the book bans in libraries nationwide and why that matters to all of us. And Camille Nelson, the Dean of the Law School, was present in my so tomorrow from the Natsumaga Institute of Peace, moderated. Dave was helping man the war room at the university to funnel questions. There was a library sciences professor present, and the guest speaker Maya Kobabe dialed in from California. That was a really wonderful event that you can still access online. Dave, do you want to add anything about that one? Well, I think just that we're hoping to have opportunities like that. If I can put in a plug, it would be to anybody who's interested in partnering with the school, please reach out to us. You can just Google Davis Democracy Initiative. You'll see our emails at the top of that page. You know, I think we're in the kind of talk story and ideation phase of this. We did launch in February. And I think we're very keen not to see this as a program. This is something that Punahou is giving to Hawaii, but really hoping to co-create with stakeholders around the state of knowing what the needs are, knowing where the opportunities are, where the challenges are, and really being just one voice at the table to work toward common solutions. I think everybody feels the need for the how vanishingly rare these virtues are in our country. And it feels like we're at a particular stress test in our nation's history.  We have a lot to improve on locally as well. And really getting young people involved in those processes, I think it's a very, very exciting challenge for us in the years ahead. You know, I was very impressed almost immediately by what you guys were doing when Dr. Bonnie Tremor, who is one of your very gifted faculty, invited Governor Green in to speak to her classes. And then you dovetailed into this and worked with her. And I was wondering how much of that is possible at Punahou because you have a very unique faculty, a very gifted faculty I'm at, and you have a thriving, you know, Hawaiian Studies program. And under the leadership of Keolani Keoloha Skullian, you have that outreach to the public with the partnerships and unlimited educational program. And Pueyo, the partnerships and unlimited educational opportunities program Pueyo. And so I was wondering how much you guys do that, how much you dovetail on others' work, which provides even more examples and more opportunity for the Davis initiative. That's a great question, Carl. I mean, ideally we dovetail as much as possible because we know that our teachers, whether they're at Punahou or in the DOE or at other independent schools, they're just so busy on a day-to-day basis. So if a teacher indicates to us that they're interested in posting someone or bringing in a speaker in a certain field, we will help them do that. We'll take that off their backs. We will make the arrangements and we will advertise it wisely at our school and outside of school if it's a public-facing event. And then we know that we have students who are specifically interested in the topic because a teacher is requesting that speaker for their class and we know that they will have an audience and we then bring in lots of outside interested people too. And we're just trying to build on that kernel of interest from teachers and we recognize that they may not have the time, but they have the will and we'll do that organization for them and maybe even expand it for them. So that is our approach. And I think we're very blessed in Hawaii to have a really vibrant grassroots energy across the state. I think one of the things that's a challenge for us is communication among those organizations and the patients, oftentimes common missions that they're working on. And so I see a real opportunity for the initiative to be a communicator, to be a switchboard. Whether it's getting students involved with those organizations, whether it's helping those organizations communicate with one another, whether it's just being an active and eager partner in the good work that's happening across the state as well and across this campus. I know you know this, Carl, like I know it's a small city and it never sleeps. And so I'm always discovering individuals, organizations, connections that I didn't even know existed. So it suggests to me that we really do, you know, endless opportunity to accomplish some great things. So in that regard, because you mentioned public schools, but I'm and you did mention HIS, but I want to ask you very specifically, because David, you and I have had previous conversations about this, and that is the connections with Eolani school, because they have that, you know, many decade history of the Kiebel's chair. And I was wondering if you are partnering with them, and especially let me, with that new African American Studies class that's being offered, especially because of what you guys teach, which I would like to take. I'm not going to put any pressure on you. But, you know, the African American Studies class that has gotten so much publicity, because of the college board, but, you know, how much are you collaborating with schools like Eolani and Kamehamehan, that we have about 30% of our kids in Hawaii going to private schools too? Yeah, it's a great question. And I think building those relationships is the first step. I think also one of the things that I notice at every school and that you think of as a coordinator of this kind of energy, having a really engaged and active audience, right, your programming lives, or your program lives, because there are people there to experience it, to respond to it, to build upon it. And so, you know, we've been, you know, Russ and I, for instance, have been talking about the amazing speaker that they have coming, they have Imani Perry coming in this year. And we want to get one of those students in the door. We're still shuttling our speakers right now, but we're going to also make sure that there are enough seats in the room that every interested student, every interested faculty member, colleague who wants to be there can be there. I think we're also trying to resist when it comes to peers, things like the Keebles chair and I know they do a great job of this as well. You don't want it to be a one and done somebody parachutes in from outside our community. They drop 90 minutes of knowledge on us and there is quickly out the door. We want those experiences to be sparks for conversations that we're having with one another. We want to, we want to feel the echoes of the reverberations of those visits. How can they impact our classrooms? How can they impact our relationships with one another? How can they impact our community building? So really building opportunities for colleagues, for students across campuses to have those experiences, I think are really, really valuable. Another thing I'll say is that I don't know how that doesn't always have to build that thing. We're starting a program. We're embedding students at Civil Bee and trying to get them to have a really neuro-going knowledge of what nonprofit news is, but I was never going to be as good at Civil Bee as doing that work. They live, eat, breathe that work and they're a really important pillar in our community. So the role of the initiative there is making sure that the opportunities are available for students to experience the good work that they're doing. There's not to try and duplicate their work. And I think sometimes that idea of can you create the room that the energy can have that can you be a connector and a switchboard between students and organizations. I think there's a real opportunity for us to grow that. I'll just add that I think we have very cordial relations with our counterparts or people doing the equivalent kind of work at other schools. And it's very much how can we do this together? And that's so healthy and inspiring. And we have a wonderful liaison with the Department of Education with social studies with whom we're working closely and are very excited about the possibilities. And everything takes time and every school has its ways of doing things. And we're just going to be patient and steady and active. And we have a lot still to do that. We're just getting our toes wet as we speak. Yeah. I think the educators listening, you know, sometimes it is that sense of like, what's the flavor of the month? And, okay, we're going to be doing this six months. We're going to be doing it in two or three years. And we're fortunate enough to be funded in perpetuity. So as long as there's a part of school, there's going to be a data democracy initiative. And so that really gives us a very long horizon for thinking about effecting change, both at our school and in partnership with other schools. And the knowledge to say that if it doesn't happen this academic year, well, let's plan really well for next year. And, you know, if a visitor has a busy calendar for 24 months, we can, you know, flip the calendar pages even further back. And that's given us a great deal of freedom and a great deal of creativity to design things with a really long tail. We have an email chain right now of 53 messages just trying to book one person. And then other people, you know, it's one, two, three. So there's, there are a lot of details behind the scenes. And we are so grateful to Mark and Jamie Davis for giving us this opportunity to bring education to another level. And I'm going to ask you about Mark and Jamie Davis in just a moment.  The Keebles chair, the person comes in and spends a week with the faculty and like their time is, you know, is well spent because they're always with the kids, they're always with the faculty. And that's a good model that you mentioned, David, and I, and that collaboration is really great too, not only just with Yolani, but with other places. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the, that was the brainchild of a really wonderful assistant headmaster named Charlie Proctor. And it gives me great pleasure to see that both of you are developing this program. And you're within the first year, you haven't even finished a year. So my heart goes out to you because I know what that's like. And the other question, I'm going to ask you about the Davis family now, both of you, and tell me why they did this because, you know, you know, in other programs, like in the Puyo program, it was the Clarence T.C. Ching Foundation and other really, you know, wonderful funders, you know, including Unbound Philanthropy, etc., etc. But tell me a bit about them, but why is it happening now? Because is there a confluence or a synergy with the advent of the historian Mike Latham being president, Dr. Mike Latham? Because I think that that seems to me to be a logical fit. But, you know, I'm just, I'm an outsider. You guys know both best. I'll stop and ask you those questions. One about the Davis family, and the other is about Mike Latham. Well, the one I think Mark Davis would be a great guest on this show. I think you'd really enjoy talking to him, let him speak for herself. But when I've heard him tell this story, and I think it's a pretty empowering one, I think he was maybe yelling at his television. And I think, I think JD was also at the room, and she said, well, what are you going to do about it? And I think you're right. I think we have an administration here at Punahau.  And so Dr. Mike Latham, I think was was a really receptive ear to this idea.  Building consensus is hard. And I don't, I don't get the emails that Dr. Latham gets, right? But I know that every decision that he makes is not equally welcomed by every member of our community. Right. And so I think he feels these pressures as an administrator, I think every school administrator feels these pressures about the last three years that we came out of with the pandemic. I mean, it's been very hard for consensus building. And so I think the value and we really feel that strength of support from the Davises, from the administration at Punahau, I've got to say the number of folks who put their hands in the air, from other educators to folks in the law and justice community to the non-governmental organizations, just impassioned citizens who want to be a part of this has been, really gives you a lot of hope for the future. And I think that Aloha spirit here in Hawaii, we live in a very distinct place. And so to be able to do this work at this place informed by everything that makes Hawaii distinct, I just think it's a, I think it's a tremendous burden to what we're doing. Dan, would you like to add anything? I want to also, Oh, thank you. Oh, I mean, I agree with everything that Dave said. And I do think that that, that story about the Mark Davis throwing a shoe at the TV and his wife saying, well, don't just do that. Do something about it. I mean, we all have our personal turning points and the way that they have turned frustration with our, our political system. And maybe the lack of exchange of ideas in a civil manner is, is really heartwarming and generous and uplifting. And the way that our president, Mike Latham, who is a scholar of US foreign relations and looks at democracy in various countries in his monographs. And, and it is teaching and he teaches AP US history while being president of Punahou. His support for this was just unequivocal from the start. And that is a fantastic position for us to be in as we attempt to convince people, right? There are always some skeptics like they're too busy to pay attention. And, and we, we know that we have support. We know that we have means. We know that we have allies in various different places. And it's very exciting. Well, I'm going to leave the last, well, let me ask you one last question. And that is, do you teach other classes besides the class you collaborate in together or and that's plenty enough, but do you teach other classes also at Punahou? We do. We each teach three classes each semester. And then we have the remainder of the time devoted to the Davis Democracy Initiative. This was very important to us. We believe that we should be always in the classroom so that we can converse with our colleagues and collaborate with them, always understand what it feels like to be a teacher in the trenches, managing the multiple demands. And I'm teaching European history and senior capstone at community service course this semester. And I'll be teaching European history and bias in America next semester. Thanks, Carmen. That's great. And David, you? I teach in the art department, the English department, the social studies department. I'm really interested in the connections between those classes.  And then I teach bias in America with Pam in the spring. And I teach our honors class in the English department. I'm trained as an English scholar. And I moonlight as a civics teacher. And so it's a course that's really interested in the relationship between the self and society and how we do it in the magic of literature, I think is really, really important. One of the things that I've learned in doing this work is there's not one way for a student to become an activist. They can be a public writer. They can be an artist. They can be interested in direct aid. They can be interested in consciousness raising. They can be writing testimony at the legislature. They can be educating themselves about the issues, right? They can be reading the newspaper every day. There are a thousand different ways to get up this hill. And we're going to need everybody's talent. And we're going to need everybody's time and everybody's energy if we're going to solve some of these big global problems that we have. And obviously working with young people, I think they're going to get us there. We're going to hand off these big problems to these young people. And I think they're going to start working on solving. So I have a great deal of hope just in the short time that we've been running this initiative.  I happened to encounter David with his lovely wife at a restaurant called et al. And there he was supervising a wonderful daughter's birthday party. And you can see not only the great scholar in him, but you can see the dad in him. And with Pam, I've been at some of her readings. And Pam is a very modest woman but has written really wonderful books. And I'm not going to say monograph because I think it's the books that you have written apply to our general audience. And so I appreciate your scholarship. I don't know how you do. Each of you is really doing two jobs, not one. And I appreciate you. Again, thank you to David Ball and Dr. David Ball. And thank you to Dr. Pamela Sakamoto. Thank you very much for being a guest here on Journeys of the Mind. Thank you very much, Dr. Ackerman. I really appreciate it.