5, 4, 3, 2, 15 Wrong direction, 20 after 25 10, 9, 8, 0 5, 4, 3 Import Episode 45 It's 22nd April 2017, streaming directly from Singapore It's Rebuild Live This time on Rebuild Live, we'll be chatting about computer security with Eugene Yay, Eugene Tio! Welcome to Episode 45 of Rebuild Live I'm your host, Sayani, and on the soundboard is Chinme That's right, and our guest today is Eugene Tio Hello! And he's right here with us in person This is for the first time ever Yes It's possible Yes, we finally managed to get... You know how we talked about when we rebooted Rebuild Live, we had a new studio in quotes Yes And one of the things we tried to do with the studio was to allow guests to come in live Because you've always had this question like, oh, how do I join you? Do I come over to your place? We were like, no, no, we have the internet now We could do this whole thing for the internet But we did have the ability to have a third person And Eugene was like, I'll come over Because Eugene happens to be our neighbor Yes, he happens to live very close by So like, okay, come on down So it's fun because then we have been chatting a lot about stuff before So I think you're already in the groove Great So Eugene has been our friend actually for quite a few years We got to know him as a security geek, a Linux geek With a very special history, okay, anyway But I will let Eugene Tio introduce himself Eugene Hi, my name is Eugene Tio And I'm a director of security at a US based company dealing with HR related security And this is the first time I'm doing a podcast And I'm very happy to be invited Thank you for inviting me And I hope to share what I know with you guys And if you have any questions later, feel free to ask Great So Eugene, you have been dabbling with security for about Maybe close to 15 years 15 years, okay, let's learn I'm only just getting started But as an engineer, I'm realizing that security is so, so important And this was a great chance So, but Chinme, before we move on, you have a welcome gift Yes, so there's a tradition in our, we've been live That we welcome every guest with a so-called malformed query Oh, why? So it's a riddle So for you Eugene, your riddle is Why do security conscious people live in dark and closed houses? Does Eugene do that? I don't do that Okay You know why? Because bugs come in through open windows Okay No, I don't use windows, so I Yeah, so that's why you don't have any windows, right? I don't move bugs Okay, so what operating system do you use? I used to use Linux all the time I started using Mac, Fedora, Debian Okay I like Debian I remember one of the talks that Eugene gave once about how he was He was scolded by Linus Torvalds Oh, yeah That's a privilege Because you work so close to that I mean, I'm guessing you've spent a lot of time with Linus Yes, yes, I mean, Linus is my first love And ever since when I was in Poly, you know, I refuse to use windows Not because I, I mean, maybe, yeah, I hate windows I don't like to use windows even today But not because of the operating system, but because of the philosophy And because of the things that they do But at that time, I don't feel like, you know, why I should spend money Buying proprietary software So I started to use Linus and I play with it And I also tried different flavors of Unix And it just became a nice hobby to have And it gives me a challenge That's a great way, especially for students, you know Because students are always, like, cash strapped And that's a great way to start off with Unix Great, so live audience, if you're listening to us There are quite a few listening to us from the stats So please listen to us while having your breakfast or your tea And drop your- Yeah, very late, like 11 o'clock already, you want breakfast and tea We just had coffee with Eugene Yes, we did Bring your drinks, favorite drinks along And post your security questions for Eugene on Gitter Chat So that's Gitter.in-slash-webuild-sg-slash-live So post your questions and we will pick it up And during the audience polling question, Eugene will answer them Great, so let's start off with the computer security topic of the day So why is security important today? Well, you know, computer security is always important It's just a matter of whether people knowing that it's important I guess, you know, there's many ways of looking at computer security Some people look at it like insurance People think that insurance is only important when something terrible happens And if nothing happens, why are you paying premiums? And likewise, when people look at security, they look at it the same way If nothing happens, why should we invest in technologies to protect ourselves? I think that back in 2013, when there was an enormous operations attack On some of the prominent Singapore websites I was involved in providing expert opinions to AGC And some members of the Singapore Police Force And we went through the evidence and all that But the main point is that it really made people wake up that computer security is important That we shouldn't ignore And we started to see that government has been spending money building the rights And our agencies, hiring people, emphasizing that security is important And people started to get applicants who tell me that Oh, I'm very interested in security, I want to switch my careers That's a nice change But security has always been important When I started learning Linux, security wasn't my focus But at some point, a couple of years later, I felt that Maybe I should learn another skill And I chose computer security But there's a story behind it, I can share with you if you want But it's something important because if you don't protect your infrastructure If you don't protect your software, bad things can happen to you And you do not want that to happen And especially these days, we do so many things on our computers Networked computers, everything, banking, insurance So many things that are very sensitive And slowly it's being connected to the physical infrastructure Along with finance, medical systems Utilities across cities So we will have security vulnerabilities Or this kind of mindset is needed even more So let's say somebody comes to you to look at a brand new system And to secure it How would you get started? I always get confused about how to get started What's the approach you would take? When people work on a new system, security is always an afterthought Yeah, absolutely Ideally, when you start working on a system You should get security involved right at the very beginning Right from day one The design stage Try to understand, go through a checklist If you're going to have a login page, do you have SSL And all that kind of stuff And usually what I would recommend is to do threat modeling Understanding your system from a point of view of an attacker What are the points of entry? Where are your crowd drawers? Where are your high-value assets? How can an attacker gain access to your system from a different means? Try to understand your system from a different perspective And try to see how you as a defender protect yourself at the design stage Don't wait until you ship the product to your customers or to your users So complaining And people start complaining and it starts to deal with all the security issues that people may find That would be too late You'll be patching and fixing the problem And not really addressing the root cause of the problem But people should realize that no matter whether you're a small company Or whether you're working on an open source project Security has to be the number one Or maybe number two The priority in your development And start approaching problems from that perspective One of the things I always struggle with is that as a developer I mean a lot of the audience are not security professionals They're mostly developers or hackers, makers, engineers I think the perspective that you need Or the mindset you need to consider Like what you're talking about threat models You said look at it from an attacker's perspective See how you can get it I think it's super hard for an engineer to think from that perspective We only think of features Engineers features or bugs I mean in my previous roles I do work with many different developers And engineers like when I was at Red Hat I get to work with people with long hair and long beard I get to work with people like Linus or Andrew Morton From the Linus channel community The perspective from a developer is so different from a security guy Let me give you an example Let's say you have a smartphone And you see a notification popping up on your phone A software engineer will probably A developer will probably say How can I show the notification on your phone After receiving a certain event And what happens when you close the notification So I just close it So I perform another action and all that And what should I display on the notification A QA engineer will say things like How do I make sure that what the developer did Is indeed what they have written Make sure that the notification appears at the right time Close instead of just ignoring your input and all that But from a security point of view A security guy or lady Will think something like How can I run a long text in the notification So that I can crash the phone How can I make sure that the notification Don't appear when you want it to appear And how can I make use of this notification So that I can break into the software And gain access So it's a very different mindset It is Like what you said I think is very interesting Normally let's say you're making a notification widget As an engineer you would test If I type in words it works If I type in letters it works If I type in a long sentence it works Okay good can really Nobody's going to try to type a thousand characters And see where it crashes I will even look at Unicode Yeah People won't try to follow them The recent news The Chrome on the browser So now we can go to Apple.com But it's not actually Apple.com This is definitely somebody who thought of it as saying If I put Unicode inside the URL by It would look nice and people would be happy with it And then somebody found a way to hack around it It's so hard for engineers to think that way What would you suggest? Do you suggest that you hire professionals Do you suggest engineers maybe take courses Like how would an engineer Work better Make that mindset off Or at least be aware of it I think everyone starts from somewhere Even a security guy has to learn some new things And start from the very basics And be as good as they are today Developers can do the same As compared to the 90s Or even the early 2000s We have so much books So many security books now That you can just go to Amazon.com To pick up a few And spend some time learning And you'll be as good as a security guy But I think learning is just one thing You really need to change the mindset You really need to think about the corner cases You need to think about If you do this When a software developer will look at a door There's a point of entry But a security guy will look at a window As a point of entry So you've got to change the mindset Change the way you think And try to read as much as possible Look at what other people are doing Not to say that you want to be a bad person But try to learn what the bad people are doing And try to see how you can defend it From the defender's point of view You can only defend if you know The attack of mindset Precisely Yeah Great Eugene, why don't we talk about some tools And resources that you use daily Or you like Let's get into the nitty gritty details I'm sure It really depends on what you mean by security Security is like a beer But do you like to brew a beer Or do you like to buy beer Do you like to drink beer Or do you just like to spend money So that people can drink beer Just like security For us At least for my team We do a lot of monitoring We do a lot of detection and response And we also work on incident response So some of the tools that we use Includes like Elastic search Kibana We do a lot of data analysis Interesting We try to learn Python Right now we are trying to learn machine learning To see how we can apply That in the screening monitoring Because there's lots of different activities going on In the company infrastructure You want to see how we can reduce the number of noise So you focus on the more important things And there's a lot of things that we can do I remember we talked about this with Rahul When we talked about infrastructure Our previous episode guest And he talked about how he had Gigabytes of logs coming in From all the different bits of infrastructure In his office And we were asking him how can he manage that How does he manage that I didn't realize but Stuff like machine learning could be Very interesting in this stuff But to pop out interesting events Saying that this kind of a pattern Is probably something wrong There's a lot of opportunities To apply machine learning in security Things like clustering Understanding how we can separate Different kinds of logs How can we look through The different alerts that we have And maybe use random forest to reduce Force positive and give us probability That this could be an incident This maybe this is not valid The kind of things so that we can Spend more time on the things That we want to look at And less time on this kind of noise Fascinating Is this already used in the industry? Is this something that's commonplace? Are you guys like trying to come up with new ideas And new techniques of doing things? Well there are many security startups That are emphasized on using machine learning To solve big problems For my company We are all security people We are not machine learning engineers And we are trying to see How we can customize Our monitoring platform To do all this I think right now We are still in an emerging stage Where people are trying to figure out What we can do with machine learning As compared to other industries Where it's more mature Let me give you an example Amazon.com If you buy a book Or if you browse a book They will give you recommendations And you will find that Some of the books they recommend Is something that you may like But for security That's a very different problem If a machine learning algorithm Gives you a list of things And then ignore the rest Because based on the algorithm The probability of that Something happening is low And if it turns out to be false It turns out to be a real incident That we are in big trouble And there's something that We still need people To go through them Just to make sure Because the stakes are a lot higher And the problems that we do Are a lot more serious Compared to just book recommendations Also a lot of things that we have Also I think once people realise That you are using a certain system They will try to game that They will try to go around it And see how can I hide my tracks Even if you're using this thing So there's always going to be This cat and mouse thing That your machine learning has to Keep on top of So if you look at the academic research There's this thing called The adversarial machine learning Where you have machine algorithms Doing some of the things But the inputs The data, the logs and all that Is still controllable by the attacker And how can an attacker influence Your machine learning algorithms To give a result That the attacker can give Wow It was a very interesting space I never thought of that Even machine learning It was like You know that they're using This machine learning And you want to tweak it To give you the wrong wow This is It was very interesting I never thought of security In machine learning In this aspect Yeah exactly This is one of the things I wanted to ask Eugene Before when you're talking about it Because he was saying He's getting really into machine learning Now I was curious What it is And now I understand This is really fascinating stuff So you want to use machine learning To look for patterns Yeah look for patterns Give me a high probability Of things, events or alerts They are being triggered And so that you know Rather than going through everything Which could mean a lot of time Been spent on tickets How can we reduce that So there is only located Just a subset of those alerts Okay Because you know With bigger and bigger systems We are like Just flooded by alerts And notification And that's where machine learning Can come in place And there's a lot of things That we can automate Right That's really cool So quick question We were talking about tools And resources Like let's say You know I'm doing this kind of stuff I want to get started with You know Maybe not machine learning Maybe basic data Data science kind of stuff Are there any packages Libraries, tools That you'd recommend I mean I guess Everyone who starts Learning security Will have played With meta exploit Yeah Yeah I mean most of the candidates I spoke to They Learned pen testing Penetration testing I think The movies The TV Gave people the impression That you know Security is all about Penetration testing Hacking You know Trying to Run tools Towards a target The software In order to find out Whether they have A security issue And I will say that You know Meta exploit A tool similar to that Will be a good Way to get started At least You've been exposed to Some of the fun stuff And it keeps you Gets you motivated And learns some More stuff And I also Want to encourage people You know That if you're interested In security Just focus on one area Try to Explore as many areas As possible Before you specialize What do you mean by Areas Let's say You know Like you could focus You could focus On vulnerability analysis You could focus On mobile reverse Engineering These are the areas Of security that I Okay There are security operations Where we look at Network logs And all that So there are many things That we can do With security But Try to have exposure In many areas As possible Especially as a beginner As a beginner Yes What about Books or movies Movies Stay away I don't know Movies are Like Not the right perception Movies No Okay There's one Movie There's one TV drama Was that Elliot In there What's this Amazon It was super famous Apparently that was one Of the most accurate Portrails ever Of like Security I watched a few episodes I think it's Okay It's a TV show It's a TV show I just couldn't remember Okay Sure We will Elliot kid House of Elliot Mr. Robot Mr. Robot Okay Mr. Robot We are Googling At the same time Okay Mr. Robot Incidentally right I have two members In my team Whose name Elliot Elliot Is like a new man What an apt name For a security team Yeah So you can see That shows like these Can have An impend on people Or that They like it to the point Where they would Use their names Yeah You know Books There are so many books around I would suggest That Try to Look At a website like Amazon Look at the reviews Look at the number of stars Try to get a book There is recent Don't try to get a book That is like five years old Two years old Really Like aren't there some Fundamentals In security That just lives on Like physics or maths You know there are Certains fundamentals No Okay So you know Like people People usually complain Yeah Things move so quickly Yeah Security Well Things move even faster Because you have to Like one up The attacker Yeah You can see That could be one of the reasons But I think that You know Like when you learn security You don't just Want to learn A theory You know You want to do Some hands-on And books Get oscillated Very quickly True Especially technology books Yeah You know Sometimes When they publish a book They talk about the issue They write POC A proof of concept To show you Why this is a problem But by the time you Read the book The issue has been resolved And you cannot You cannot try You know Maybe you have To go through Lots of steps To get that issue You know To be To be available For you to try out But the thing is That you know If you get the book That is more recent You know The opportunity to Learn is a lot greater Okay Great So live audience If you're listening in And there are Quite a few of you In the chat as well Do post your questions In the chat Which is Yeah We already have a couple of questions A bunch of stuff Happening in the chat Yeah So join in the chat Get your tea or coffee And just Write your opinions And your Expressions about Security on Gitter.im Slash Rebuild SG Slash Live Great Let's talk a little bit About Like What an engineer Developer should take note Of when building systems Yeah Well If you have any Specific Angles That you can Share Maybe Are there Some What should A new engineer A developer should Take note Of when Building new systems Sorry I wasn't Pay attention You were Distracted By the chat The chat is What are some things That an engineer A developer should Take note of I mean You talked about A little bit earlier But Would you have Specific Things for them To learn Or look at Or checklists To follow Or guidelines To look at If they want to Yeah Sure Like If you're Doing web Development That's Or was Top 10 Or was Yep A lot better than Many people out there Yeah And if you are More Interested in More of a traditional Enterprise software We should be Could look at Products like Covarrity Or similar Products where You could Do study analysis To understand What are Some of the problems That are In the code And try to resolve them Or you could Look at Developing fuzzers Try to Find problems You know Dynamically What are the things They can do? One thing I learned As an engineer Is that Especially when Working on IoT things Is that I must have a means To patch the software Like Especially for IoT You know Your physical Like little lamps Or bulbs They're like just Deployed Physically Like in a Very, very Routes are a big Issue Yeah, routers too In fact TP-Link I think Engineers should take note Like You know By default The user should not Be able to do Something that is Not secure Or by default You know Immediately when the patches All the vulnerability Is found The patches Kind of developed You should be able To remotely patch All your devices Or software It's easy to say that Then though Yeah, absolutely I was reading Another article recently About Some super cheap Android phones Where they have This So And And And they just Go to a random website Not over SSL Just plain You know Like normal HTTP And then download this firmware bundle And then they flash it Into themselves Very fishy Yeah Very fishy Perfect This is the thing It's a lot of times You're like Oh, you know I'm going to implement A firmware update Feature And you do it And then you never think That hey Maybe somebody can Just redirect my HTTP traffic And that's the way To verify that You know The update is really from you Yeah I think there's a lot of problems With IoT And not to Just Make everybody depressed But there's a lot of things That we need to do You know IoT You know There's lots of different vendors And not all vendors Are committed to Provide The updates and patches For a long time Also I feel that Because traditionally IoT devices As of today Are being made By vendors Who did appliances They are not really aware Of networking They're not aware Of security They probably build Mechanical systems Or microcontrollers That were just Like Kind of isolated Into that device So they have no Awareness of security at all Yeah So There's so much Things that we can do You know And there's so much Things that we can Learn And a lot of companies Are Understanding This is a problem And if They were to address Security issues One by one Or by device Or by the way So Like People have to come up With new innovative ways To solve this problem Maybe we look at A network layer We try to Put all these devices In a network And try to Protect users from that way Do filtering And all that Also they Have A Core architecture So that If anybody Wants to work on IoT device To use The APIs And all that But There's also a lot Of Face when you use IoT They cannot transmit A lot of data Oh yeah Low bandwidth Low power Devices Your cheap devices So you They can't be very powerful Processors And you want them to last On a battery For like 10, 20 years And then Typical advice Will be Don't reinvent the wheel Don't Use an open source Project that is mature And people have done it Before But sometimes Will not apply Especially in Mature People are still trying to figure Out how to have that Efficient energy And low bandwidth Protocol and yet secure So yeah I agree with you So you're going to have Job security for a long time Including you Eugene If you work So this is Your tip to the audience If you want to Make sure that you have a job You know Work in IoT And security No I mean Like If you think about it The whole software industry Is broken Yeah You know Like Which other industry Except you know Bars And broken software Is that don't work In production You know That you can sell You know right Yeah Unfortunately software Industry is kind of Wide spread in many industries Transportation Airplane Run software Medical device Medical device Run software It's like Everywhere No it's interesting Because What you said Is very true Like if you go To a market If you buy And say You know I get full refund for this But If you get a bug In your Windows Code You can't go back to Microsoft And say I want to return this You know Windows You know License key to you I don't like this anymore I don't want that Like that whole thing Is not there anymore Also like For more Critical stuff Like you know Medical equipment And stuff You can sue people If they sell you stuff That's not Transportation as well And if they sell you stuff None of that stuff In the fair world As well So when you think about Alright Eugene One last question On this topic Before we move forward What are you excited About security We had a lot of like Scary stories And stuff Are you excited About something I think it's because Of the scary stuff That it makes me Continue to be Very interested In this field Interesting And I think For my career I have made A lot of I mean Even though I went from A very rich person To a More like Very specialized person Focusing on Linus Connell And then I I went on to lead teams And build teams And all that I think there's So much things to do You know I think What really keeps me Interested is that You know Computers are not going away Internet is not going away Yep And my kids Are going to use internet When they grow up And they're Going to use software And we need to make sure That you know We continue to educate people Educate you know Developers Make sure that we do the right things To protect You know The privilege that we have today You know If you talk about me When I was younger I don't get to use a computer Until I was 15 And To use a computer To be able to hook up On to the internet Before more damn And hear the dull tone It was like Wow Magic You know That feeling That feeling You know You can never forget that feeling And We need to Really do our part You know To make sure that We do Make sure that the internet is safe And And people You know Be able to do Improve their lives a lot You know With a safe environment That they can perform Traditions They'll do their banking Traditions and all of that I think it's very important And you know We should keep it that way To keep the privilege to You know People in the future Right Are there some algorithms Or technology That you're looking for To learning I don't know There's so much Things to learn Sorry I built an open source Curriculum Of modules To learn You know I mean I'm pretty interested In data science these days You know I've been really booked Like R for data science And Learning R And Trying to take a module On linear algebra And Trying to relearn My calculus Because Some bad experience In the past Thanks to some teachers I really hate the topic But I know I need to relearn And Yes What online course I go Like For the math modules I'm taking Those from MIT Right And then Some machine learning From Stanford Everyone knows about M2 Exactly These are all open And available to anyone So don't stop learning Even if you Have You have as much experience As Eugene Exactly You know If you look at Maybe 10 years ago People have to pay to learn You know Now people are Giving you stuff to learn Great Great So that's it for The main segment Of this episode Which is Computer security But Chinmay We are going on to the next Segment Which is I.O. Polling That's right The second segment In our show Is called I.O. Polling And this is where Eugene is already Like Flexing Getting ready to Fight it all No It's about audience questions And the audience has already Been asking some questions So Which is How do you balance business cost With security?  Yeah I mean From a technical guy You want to Solve everything But You know When you look at Businesses It should really work With different departments Like Sales and business You know Development Because Ultimately You want to understand Right In the company Which product or services Generates the most revenue And The top priority Will be that Which software Or services Collects Lots of PII You know Personally Identifiable Data And all that That should be The main Use of formula Security Equal one Over convenience Whenever you do something You know If you want security You have to sacrifice convenience If you want convenience You have to sacrifice some Security And Of course There are other variables It's not as straightforward As that formula You go to To a risk assessment You go to Understand the business You look at the Financial reports And Make sure you Protect the right things You cannot Have all your resources Because Usually Everything You got to Spend What you have right now To focus on What's the most important Thing Once you've done Do it well You start to focus On other things That are less Important That way You'll be Able to Make sure you have a team To Solve problems You're not solving All the problems You solve The most important problems They're focused And You get things done The main The worst thing That will happen Is You have a small team Focusing on all the problems And you end up Nothing done Yeah Like a jack of all the trades Kind of thing Yeah Would you have some Recommendation suggestions For management people? Um Management people like Because engineers Have to work with them Security people Have to work with them Do we have any tips For managers? Yeah, exactly For managers Like we had tips For engineers But how about managers? I think the best My opinion My personal opinion Hopefully I don't offend anybody But My opinion is that The best manager Actually people Who have done this before Like they have been Ex-security or engineers Yes I've seen managers Who mess everything up Because they have no idea Right What their guys are doing And they have no idea How difficult it is Or What the technical Challenges They are facing Right A technical person Who is a manager Understands What they're going through They do the best To make sure that they support them And Remove any impediments They may face Yeah, absolutely Remove obstacles And I think The usual tips are Like people will tell me Eugene What you're telling me Are all common sense But really they're all common sense Right Make sure that you provide What they need You invest in them You can do your part By making your work environment Fun We have monthly Lunge and learn We have a sharing session Share links We have You know Machines that we can have fun with We set up No test labs And all that And We want to work on Pat projects You know If you can spend An hour Which I don't think is too much to ask Right Working on something interesting Or learn something new Why not And The more important thing Is to not have a top down Approach But to share Open collaboration You know If you hire people You want to empower them Not to control them And I think that's very important Right And the only way to find out Is you going through What they went through Right So they know what they want And that way You have a happy thing Yeah And I think what Harish Pillay In the chat also pointed out Leaders must be humble And get a clue So even if you Totally Thank you Harish For that comment Great Any other question So I think this is something You do with the recent news But Justlyn asks No sorry Before that Yeah Michael asks Maybe As Thread actors Potentially facing Singapore In the next five years This will be interesting Thread actors Facing Singapore In the next five years Very specific question What are the specific Thread actors You are worried about I guess What kind maybe I mean If you look at Singapore Yes All the threats That we have seen Are all quite Not very Cool You know They are not very Like Super difficult to You know Lunch That will not Publicly Shared Right I think the question I will I mean I will rephrase the question Maybe it's wrong But What is more important Is to have A government That is more open To sharing And it has to work Two ways Not just The private Organization Sharing information To the governments But the governments Have to come forward To share These learning experiences To everybody So that Everyone knows Of course People will say that Oh You know You need to have intelligence And You know If you share too much People will Other foreign You know Governments will know Other adversaries Will know That We share too much Right This is like The open source Argument Right Like the open Algorithms are But I think There's a I mean I think There's a way To strike a balance If there's An attack happening We don't need to know Who did it We probably Want to know How it was done So that everyone knows How to protect themselves Or Organization could learn From some of the lessons That they've been through To protect ourselves And I think That's very important And something needs to be done Nice That was a very good answer Okay So Next question From Justin Two more questions At least This is something to do With the recent news About the both Could you give a brief background Of what happened? Seems like You have a Both No I don't have A wireless headset Actually I do But I don't have a Boss one Okay Okay To be honest I have not read That news So if one of you Have I just Quickly Grants through it I believe The issue was The people were Claiming That both Was listening Into their Because they had Some Backlink stuff That was happening I'm like Reading off headlines Both wireless headphones By on listeners Lawsuit Leak It's like Another news where WikiLeaks Leaks some information About TV Listening to Yeah So I mean Like Just I mean Okay See That's If you Sometimes In life You don't have All these things Just leave Just don't say Your password Don't say that Your password Don't share Private information If you have to do it Do it With encrypted channels Signal And all that Just live your life Normally Live your life As if Anything you say Or do Will be leaked Anyway The walls Are starting to have Years The walls Have always had Years Of Things Because People know it anyway Okay Cool Alright So the next question Is from Wei Man It's a long one So it says I think the public Tends to have a vague idea Of How Computer Security works And often puts themselves At risks Through clicking On phishing links And such What do you think Are the most important Things that Public Like a lay person Needs to know About Computer Security And struggle with Non-technical Employees Yes So Three things Right The stuff you receive From By e-mail The links that you Visit And the website That you visit Right User Users Users User Education Is very important You know You can have The best Security technology out there You can Spend all your money Making sure That you have The best And if You do not know That when they receive An e-mail Let's say Your best And best Security technology Could block The e-mail Or block the Attachment People shouldn't Click on the link If they find it Suspicious Let me give you A story There was Someone Who received An e-mail And she Received An e-mail And that Attachment And that Attachment Was the same So nothing very suspicious So she felt that Or maybe Just double click on it And see what happened And then she Shared the same e-mail To her colleague And what happened Was that That attachment was A ransomware A malicious program That tries to Encrypt your files And ask you for a ransom Not very good Right So she Click on it Her colleague Click on it And their files Are all encrypted What made it worse Was that To a shared Server So shared servers got The files are all encrypted But If they Are aware That they shouldn't Click on Links that They are not They find suspicious Or find funny Or not interesting They should report it To the security team I think one of the Problems I find When I'm trying to Explain this to people Is You and I have a very Tune sense Of what is suspicious But a lot of people Don't get it They are like Somebody send me A free textbook Okay I want I want They don't get it It's so hard To train people About these things Another day I got an email From my parents Saying that I got an email From Apple Saying that A thousand dollars Have been charged On your Apple iTunes account Blah blah Check the email address It's not from Apple.com Of course it's fake We have a written Agreement with our parents Like If anybody send you A web SMS Email Please forward it To us Before clicking Anything Anything So I guess A lot of companies Will try to simulate You know They pretend to be The bad guy Send the best stuff To them But nowadays Even better They pretend to be The good guy Like Oh we found Your computer Was hacked By a bad guy Let me fix it For you Yeah Yeah Alright Let's go to the chat room Yeah But Eugene will be here I think Yeah Eugene is already Looking at the chat So don't worry We will get on with the show Yeah We'll get on the show And then we can Answer questions As we go along Afterward as well So the next segment Is what we call The rapid fire round And in the rapid fire round I get to Ask a bunch of Rapid questions To Eugene And you have To answer Equally rapidly Don't worry About being politically Correct B.I. Yes Hi fans What is your favourite website For getting Your news or fix Like all this In this world Of computer security What do you get? Twitter So you follow Some Twitter accounts I follow A lot of Twitter accounts So you know If you want to know Who to follow You can follow Eugene And then you can See who he follows What's your current favourite Video game or board game Are you a video game? Well I'm not a play game Okay Alright Real life board games I mean My favourite one would be Road Fighter Nintendo Okay Old school Is there a new Geek toy or gadget You're looking forward to buy? I'm looking to buy The USB What do you call it The My fair My fair Cardwriter Oh okay Cool yeah That stuff is quite fun Getting into Doors And accessing Including my cards Combine Few cards in one Nice Is there a new Book you want to pick up? I just want to learn more Are For data science Do you have a favourite Sci-Fi movie or a book? I don't really read much But I hope to read more Okay What about What's your current favourite Meetup group in Singapore? Pied it up Pied it up You're involved You're one of the organisers So I started a group I was involved until Late last year And I took a break Okay Good to know What's your favourite Programming language? Uh-oh Uh-oh Uh-oh Uh-oh Say it Uh-oh Okay It used to be C But uh-oh is really fun Okay Cool And last one This one is even more Uh-oh What's your favourite Distribution of Linux? Uh-oh Say it Uh-oh They're good They're good? Alright Cool Alright Thank you very much For answering our rapid-fire That's all we have Next round Which is called PIX And the way we do PIX Is basically it's a You know Everybody gets to choose Two or three interesting Fun things That you want our audience To try out And we'll go around the table We'll let you give you some time To think about it Eugene Till then we can Say any Yeah I wanted to share about Online course I think Eugene mentioned a lot About it And this is specifically Udemy.com Slash Collection Slash Skills Future Credit Go and attend this course And you can claim them Under some Government scheme And this I think I believe What Eugene mentioned Like you know The government has to work With the public And the people Of the country Together And I think There are some security Uh-uh Actually there are Some security Related courses Here Let me just Quickly Google And get them out For you So go Quickly To Udemy.com Slash Courses Slash Skills Future So the complete Cyber Security Course Hackers Exposed Complete Cyber Security Course Endpoint Protection There's really a lot Web hacking And security Linux Security And hardening So get started People If you're curious About security And you have access To computer And the money too Yes So you can go to Skillsfuture.sg Slash Credit Or one of the URLs We'll put all the links In the social And you can Claim it So go and have Some good online Courses For free All right Is that all? Yup That's all for me I have two picks The first Is a podcast As you know I'm a podcast Fanboy I listen to podcasts All the time The guy who runs it I think he's An old school Colonel Developer He basically goes through All the new patches That were sent out On the mailing list And just goes through All of them And then talks about What all of them are It's awesome It's super fun Oh, Joe Masters Okay You know him? No, I'm not him Joe Okay, of course The way he talks About things he sounds Like he knows He's been there He's been doing stuff For a while But yeah John Masters Dooper Like techie Like he talks about You know So and so Put a new patch For Intel 5.0 Paging You know So and so Put a new patch For this And then goes deep Into the patches And what they're doing And all the To employee That was in the Mailing list It's almost like Audio way To follow The next Colonel Mailing list He's a very smart guy And He's a very Protective guy With a system Yeah That's a lot of contribution That you're thinking Nice Definitely So that's super fun And the other Framework I want to Pick today Is something called Port Audio Which is a very nice Cross-platform Audio framework So if you want to Do anything with audio As you know I also like Audio stuff So if you Want to make Anything that Plays audio Records audio Whatever Port Audio is a great Framework to use It's very simple I've picked it before as well When I'm using it again And it's super cool Super useful Very easy to use Alright I have One link to share Yes Alright Let me paste the link Basically This page has All the different Covert.io Yes All the security Papers that you want to read About machine learning And security Deep learning And all that stuff Blocks and projects And even data That you could use For your machine learning And I'll be going through These papers And if you're interested No we could discuss And you know Speaking of papers Yeah We have a meetup Called Papers We Love In Singapore And around the world Where engineers Or rather the non-researchers Share such papers So thanks for the link I'll definitely Share it with the Papers We Love Yeah Covert.io So the Subtitle of this Website is Security, Big Data And Machine Learning And that's something Eugene has been talking About a lot What he's been doing And let's have a look At something Which is Covert.io Great So Let's go On to the very Couple Few last segments Starting with Event loop Interesting Events To attend Near your place So there is Gophercon Singapore That's gonna happen In a month And if you go To 2017.gophercon.sg The Conference is happening From 25th at Golang? Not yet. Not yet. He's busy with R. All right. So go and attend buy tickets for go for Khan. The next one is Maker Faire Singapore. Maker Faire Singapore is happening. Let me see what is happening. It's happening at July actually, 20 to 21st July Maker Faire is a great place to find IoT things to hack. That is true. That is actually true because these maker projects are mostly hobbies that people just like to try and play with. But it's also a great place to tell people about security. You know like Eugene said from day one you have to think about it. So day one is where makers get involved in building a project. So Maker Faire and go for Khan. Is there a pie data conference something that you guys are organizing or is there you know so how does the pie data meetup work is it a monthly thing now? Yeah it's a monthly thing and we basically find speakers to present stuff. It's a very difficult meetup but it's a very casual and no sales speech. Only technical stuff. Awesome. That's how most developer meetups should be. Speaking of meetups, are there security meetups in Singapore that Singapore public can go and attend? Yeah. In fact there is one that is quite active. It's called Now Singapore. Oh yes, Emil one of our friend also is part of it. Yeah. And in fact I was there like yesterday or two days ago. They had a meetup which is pretty cool. Okay cool. Go and attend Now Singapore meetups. And just for the record. There's also a hurry she's saying in chat. I remember seeing this in WeBuild.g as well. There's DevSecOps meetups. Oh yes. Ah yes. DevSecOps. So for any of these meetups by the way in Singapore you can go to rebuild.sg subscribe to the calendar and you can attend. Plug. Yes. Yes. Which brings us to the last segment Electric Plug. All right. Plug, plug, plug. This is a plugging time. So Eugene you get to plug yourself and where people can find you. Yeah. I have a Twitter account. Yes. Twitter.com slash Eugene tail. And I have a home page which I need to update. Tell us the website. Yeah, tamasig.org. Tamasig.org. Tamasig has a very special meaning in Singapore. I hope I don't get into trouble. No, this has been running for ages. Anyway, tamasig.net is also Not that it's owned by Harish. So now we have two friends owning tamasig domain name. Yes, there you go. Harish in the chat is saying. I need to drag Harish into it. Well, that's a fact. Harish owns it. He says it. So tamasig.org website. It has a secure HTTPS. So look at it.  Yeah, Google doesn't like HTTPS, not HTTPS websites. Yeah, I think they have a signal to increase the rank. I don't know if you have all the HTTPS. Right. So for Google search, your website will be higher. All right. Great. So website or Twitter and as Eugene mentioned, go and follow his followings on Twitter so that you know who are the secure to people and get things. Leave a comment on my blog so that I don't feel lonely. Great. So thank you, Eugene. That's it for this week's episode. It was really, really good. And having you our first guest live in person. Yeah, I'm surprised that the system held up. I was expecting like, you know, massive crashes and stuff like not working, but it's been very smooth. And thank you for inviting me. And this is my first podcast. And I'm enjoying myself. Oh, thanks. That's the whole point of doing it. Great. So thank you, Eugene. And that's it for this episode. 45 of We've Been Live. We will get together again online on another Saturday morning with another cool guest. Until then, return zero.


Hello and happy sabat to you all. Join us as we discussed the sixth lesson of the fourth quarter from the teens cornerstone lesson 2023. From the orchestra we have Seed on the piano and Amy on the violin. From the panelist we have Gideon, Steve Tatiana and our wonderful teens teachers. My name is Mikael Fex and I will be taking you through the mission story. But before we begin let us have a word of prayer. Father in Jesus name we thank you for this day and Lord as we discussed the lesson here today we ask that you and your spirit may come and be with us oh Lord may you be with the viewers and may they understand what we are discussing today. May you be glorified in Jesus name we pray amen. Songs and soap that is the name of the story. Now it was a very special sabat in the African country of Khmerun. Actually it was a very special sabat all around the world. You see it was the third sabat of May. Do you know what is so special about the third sabat of May? The third sabat of May is the World Adventurer Day. A day when the adventurers around the world celebrate being adventurers. What does it mean to be an adventurer? Katsuya and the other adventurers in Haaklab spent some time thinking about this question. What does it mean to be an adventurer? They wondered. Does it mean reading and memorizing the Bible? Does it mean earning honors? Does it mean gathering for fun activities? They agreed that those were all important things but there was something that was much greater. They decided that being an adventurer means helping others. It means helping people in need just as Jesus would if he was walking the earth today. It means being the hands and feet of Jesus. Katsuya and her friends decided to celebrate World Adventurer Day by visiting children who did not have any parents orfans. On sabat afternoon Katsuya and 14 other adventurers went up with a grown-up master guide to the orphanage where 20 orphans lived. The orphans knew that the adventurers were coming and they eagerly met them in a big room at the orphanage. The adventurer stood on one side of the room and introduced themselves to the orphans. When Katsuya's turn came she smiled and said my name is Katsuya and I'm nine years old. I am a seventh day adventist and an adventurer. The youngest adventurer was seven years old and the oldest being 11 years old. They all said that they were adventists and adventurers. Then the orphans introduced themselves. The youngest being three years old and the oldest being 18. None of them were adventists or adventurers but they were curious to know more about adventurers and adventurers. When the introductions were over the master guide motioned for the adventurers to stand together. We're going to sing songs with you he said. Katsuya and the other adventurers enthusiastically sung songs about Jesus. They clapped their hands and with some songs and made motions with their hands. When the adventurers finished singing a dozen songs the orphans asked them to sing again. They had liked what they had and seen. The adventurers sung again the songs and the orphans listened and with bright smiles. Then the master guide preached a short salmon. He told the orphans that even though they didn't have any parents they had a heavenly father who was always ready to help them. He finished the salmon by praying for the orphans. Then came the moment that Katsuya had been waiting for. It was time to pass out gifts. Katsuya and the other adventurers had brought some square bars of soap to give to the orphans. The soap was good for taking baths and washing clothes. The orphans didn't have their own soap and they sometimes had to take baths and wash their clothes without any. Katsuya handed two square bars of soap to a six-year-old girl. The little orphan smiled broadly. She was so happy. Thank you! She explained as a gift, as she accepted the gift. When Katsuya saw that the girl smiled and heard her gratitude she also felt happy. She was happy that she and the other adventurers had been able to share songs and soap with the orphans. After the visit the master guide took the adventurers to their homes. It was amazing Sabbath, Katsuya said. My wish is to have that experience of helping others and people in need. Part of this quarter's 13th Sabbath offering will help open a seventh day Adventist school in Katsuya's home country of Cameroon, where children will learn to help others just like Jesus. Thank you for planning a generous offering next month. Thank you very much for that wonderful item. Welcome to lesson number six, so long so. I'd like my fellow panelist to introduce themselves before we begin. Can start from my left. Hello everyone, my name is Steve and I'm glad to be here with you all today. Hello everyone, my name is Tashiana and I'll be taking you through the lesson. Hey everyone, I'm Gideon and it's a pleasure to study the lesson with you today. Okay, thank you very much. Welcome all our guests and this is a very interesting story we have here. The title is so long so and it is a story of power gone sour and we are told here that he began with so much promise. In fact the Bible describes soul as one of the people who was good to look at if you catch my meaning. It was described as someone who was handsome and there's no one in Israel who was as handsome as this guy and the highlight of the first description of soul is he was actually humble. Okay, and I like Tatiana to just read our key text and just tell us what she thinks about some of the issues that are related with this story. Okay, the key text says the following. Then the word of the Lord came to Samo. I regret that I have made so keen because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions. He has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions and remember this is someone who's described as being humble. So what do you guys think? Do you guys agree or disagree with the following statements? The first one is the root cause of depression is actually selfishness. Tatiana, what do you think? I highly disagree. You highly disagree, Steve? I want to disagree on this one. You want to disagree on that one? Gideon. I also disagree. You guys also disagree with that statement. Okay, the second one is mental health and spiritual health are closely related. You guys all agree? That's true. Okay, the third one being satan cannot tempt us if we are fully committed to God. Steve, what do you think? I disagree. You disagree? What are your reasons of disagreeing with this one? That isn't why I disagree with this one because temptations are there to build us. They are there to enable us to see the greater good of God. And if we are tying it to Jesus Christ himself, remember he was also tempted and he was God. So what can limit us humans from getting tempted as well if Christ himself was tempted? Okay, Gideon, what do you think about this statement that satan cannot tempt us if we are fully committed to God? Being fully committed to God, I think it puts us in a better position to be targets of temptations by satan. So satan will actually tempt us more if we are fully committed to God because that's how we get to strengthen our faith in God and overcoming these temptations makes us stronger in our faith. Okay, thank you. Now the last one, Tachiana, I want you to answer me on this or whether you agree or disagree that one of the ways that satan gains access to our minds is through horoscopes. What do you think? I actually agree and satan actually can't read minds but he influences our thoughts. In this question, one of the ways satan gains access to our minds through horoscopes. Horoscopes are things that teens, let me say, or people in our age group find very interesting and this is a way that the devil finds to influence us and also gain access to our minds. Okay, amazing. Thank you very much. Now I just want to contribute on I think the third one where it says that satan cannot tempt us if we are fully committed to God. I disagree with that because temptations will always be there. The only problem is when you give in to that temptation that's when now satan actually gets you but temptations will always be there. Now I just want Gideon to just give us a highlight of what is actually going on in this story, what is happening to soul. The Bible has described them as someone who was humble and handsome but what is it that happens to soul? Gideon please take it away. So into the story, our story is about when God sent soul to the Malakites and told him to destroy everything and that was that did not quite much happen just to read an excerpt from the into the story section. Samuel said, although you are once small in your own eyes, did you not become the head of the tribes of Israel? The Lord anointed you king over Israel and he sent you on a mission saying, go and completely destroy the wicked people, the Malakites, wage war against them until you have wiped them out. Why do you not obey the Lord? But Samuel replied, does the Lord delight in bant offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the Lord to obey is better than sacrifice and to heed is better than the fat of rams. So when soul was sent to the Malakites and God instructed him to destroy everything, soul went ahead and spared their king together with the best of their sheep and cattle and he took them, the cattle were intended to be a sacrifice to God. But Samuel asked soul, isn't it better to obey than to give sacrifice of fat rams to God? And we also seen the story that soul went to visit a medium, I'll read that paragraph. The Philistines assembled and came and set camp at Shunem where soul gathered all Israel and set up camp at Gilboa. When soul saw the Philistine army he was afraid, terror filled his heart, he inquired of the Lord but he did not answer him by dreams or urim or prophets. But soul said then to his attendants, find me a woman who is a medium so I may go and inquire of her. So soul discussed himself, putting on other clothes and at night he and two other men went to the woman, consult a spirit for me he said and bring up for me the one I name. So soul went, visited the medium and later when he is at war with the Philistines he sees that he is losing the war. So he, so to read from here soul said to his amabaira, drew a sword and run through me or these unsurcamsized fellows will come and run me through and abuse me but his amabaira was terrified and would not do it so soul took his own sword and fell on it when the amabaira saw that soul was dead he too fell on his sword and died with him. So soul and his three sons and his amabaira all on this and all his men died together on that same day. So this story starts from the point where soul visit is at war with Amalakites but instead of killing everything has got instructed he takes the best of their cattle and sheep and spares their king also so that's disobedience is here right there and we have the section where he visits a medium to see to get our fortest or to just see what will happen at war with the Philistines and later he also commits suicide at the end of the story. Okay thank you very much for that I have two big questions for you the first one is which I believe you've partly answered is that what big sin that ultimately contributed to the soul of sorry to the demise of king so what was the ultimate sin? The big sin was souls disobedience. Souls disobedience thank you very much I believe that is in order but I'd want to ask myself why did soul sin of keeping some of the animals was almost punished immediately yet we have king David who committed adultery then later was actually described as a man after God's own hand. Kidyon I believe that David's sin was more of a sin he also recognized and accepted but what is soul's approach towards his sin we are told in the story that when Samela saw what why do you not obey the Lord Saul says but I did obey the Lord Saul said I went on the mission and the Lord assigned me I completely destroyed the Amalekites and brought back king Agag the king so Saul's sin is he does not accept that he's at fault he does not recognize his sin but he goes ahead and says that he obeyed the Lord and even in his disobedience and it's quite clear that he was he did not kill everything he did not destroy everything he still he still do I say hopeful that he's not at fault but David accepts his sin and tries to tread back towards God's ways I man beautiful now I have a few questions again now for Tatiana this time around I have three questions for you and since you read our memory text they can be answered using that the first one is and this is probably maybe for each and every one of us you can ask yourself this have I ever grieved God and if so how yes I have grieved God and when we say we grieve God this is when we give place to the devil and we grieve our Lord our tang actually is a culprit in grieving God's Holy Spirit where the corrupt valga words or angry words we speak I often lash out at people even at home when something is amiss and I planned it so yes I do grieve God okay okay the second one is does God still turn away from people he has called to leadership and why I don't think that God actually turns away from people but he does withdraw his spirit we can take that from I'm the story of soul that we read in the in the story when actually in the key text it says I regret that I have made soul king because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions even so when soul called out to God and God didn't actually answer so yes not really necessarily okay Steve you have something to say yes I wanted to add that I believe God has set a framework on what you're supposed to do see and he promises that if you abide by those by that framework by that blueprint that he will be with you that his spirit will be with you and that he will guide you throughout the way and if you look at an example of the book of kings second kings to be in particular you find that those kings that followed the framework of God brought change the kingdom the kingdoms are the the time of the renau at times of peace you see but when we do not follow the framework or we step out of that to follow our own plan God now tends to withdraw the spirit as Tatiana said and this causes and now this leads the problems the various problems that the kings face in the arena so in other words it's actually the people that turn away from God and then when God withdraws his spirit from them they blame God for turning away from God that's what I deduce from those two now the other one is what can I do to save God myself from God withdrawing his spirit from me now that Steve has mentioned that there's a certain framework so what can I do and probably maybe Steve has answered that and said there's a framework so most likely is to live and coordinate within that framework to enable me to establish a relationship whereby God does not withdraw his spirit from me now um Steve aren't you to at least identify two people who you know who strike you as persons who might be described as David was described and you know David was described as someone who was after God's own heart are there any two people that come to your mind maybe in the Bible maybe in school that actually described that describe people that were like David so I believe I can mention Abraham him being the father of faith as well he was able to follow God he followed God's laws he whenever he seen he always turned back to God to look at him and I believe those are some of the qualities of someone after God's own heart that they acknowledge that they've gone wrong uh that they put God as their priority the first priority and that they're able to change the ways after realizing and acknowledging that they have seen see um another person I can maybe mention uh friend of mine in high school used to be really dedicated to God's word and whenever he got the chance he would uh he would go ahead and praise God and do all that and whenever he was at wrong or whenever told someone told him he was at fault he was very quick to realize that and to change his ways and that's one of the qualities I found desirable yeah great now um what I get from you is that just being described as someone who's after God's own heart does not necessarily mean you'll be forkless but it much more means that you are able to recognize um your fault and actually go back to God in genuine repentance because you know even Judas repented but but you see his repentance was false it was just guilty of the sin but he didn't have like genuine repentance so thank you very much Steve for that now um Gideon I want you to to think about the steps that led to souls downfall and I just want you to probably maybe give us the punchlines that stood out for you um in this story what are some of the key texts that uh you relate with souls downfall that act as a beacon of warning to us and and and to the world as general so I'll pick two deutronomi 12 18 and first Timothy 4 so deutronomi 12 18 says be careful to obey all these regulations I am giving you so that it may always go well with you and your children after you because you will be doing what is good and right in the eyes of the lord your god and first Timothy 4 one the spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon their faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons so first Timothy 4 and stands as a one because you're told that um in tie in later times some will abandon their faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons and I think that's something that's actually quite evident today that some people are just foregoing or abandoning their faith and they're following whatever way they find right the whole news so in other words you can start well but not not end well and that's uh I think the saddest thing about about soul here that you see um starting well is not enough it's not enough to just get comfortable just because you have started well Tatiana what do you think what's your favorite text here that's a beacon of warning um I'd go with first chronicles 10 13 plus 14 and 14 and it says soul died because he was unfaithful to the lord he did not keep the word of the lord and even consulted a medium for guidance and did not inquire of the lord so the lord put him to death and turn the kingdom over to david's son of jessie here even the lord said oh sorry um he was unfaithful to the lord and he even goes to an extent of putting things in his own hands and consulting a medium instead of going to god directly and this is what put him to death and even turn the kingdom over to david son of jessie okay so we are seeing here first I think one of the things I got from this story is that soul actually battled mental illness okay and he also developed pathological hatred for for david and he even tried to to kill him and and this just basically tells us that this guy who started out well as a humble servant of the lord he veered off the road okay and it was so difficult for him to get back on track so this led him to another sin which now he started to become jealous of of david remember people who are singing um but soul has killed just thousands and david has killed 10 000 and he became jealous of of david and you see initially all these blessings that david received were to be in place for him so if he were to be faithful the same praises that david received were actually um confudge to him um at first now uh steve you want to add something yes so in line with what you mentioned about uh salt starting well but not ending well uh a particular punch line stood out to me that mentioned that says this is from mark chapter 14 verse 38 it says that watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak uh you will find that you might even find that soul himself wanted to glorify god wanted his reign to be one of peace one of uh where god was the focal point see but uh i guess it he got comfortable and maybe did not consult god as much and that's why you'll find that he may have fallen off because of that and he got all these issues of the mental illness like you mentioned so this can be a lesson that should be in prayer always consult god so that whenever the times of trials come we do not fall short yeah okay thank you very much steve now um i have a question for you yes which ditch i am am i more inclined to fall into and uh you can answer that by giving us what siya slavish wrote and also um jibs 219 can help you answer that which ditch is this that am i likely to fall into so uh if i can read from here uh as louis wrote that there are two equal and opposite errors into which our risk can fall about the devil one is to disbelieve in the existence the other is to believe and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them so this describes how some people view things like spirits and demons the fact that some of them view it as that they don't exist and that they don't have an influence over their lives and some believe in them excessively too much you see one thing we have to put straight here is that they do exist you see and they do play some factor in what we do in decisions we make and in the trajectory of our lives see and many people uh according to my point of view they tend to fall in the side where they don't believe that they exist you see and so when something happens to them they cannot attribute it to maybe something like of that sort happening you see and the point is to find a middle ground here so as not to fall into one of those ditches yeah okay thank you very much i think one one of the primary reasons for souls demise was actually selfishness okay and uh you see we are told that selfishness must be overcome you must be overcome self i believe there's a time i was listening to a certain preacher and i was just trying to ask a question and they asked who is your worst enemy like who is the enemy when even the their name comes about you can even frown and many people give various answers but the preacher student said your worst enemy is actually yourself and they said the day you will actually overcome self you love gained a lot of victories and the other person also said that um you know the greatest battles uh greater than the battle that is even been fought in israel and palestine right now the greatest battle that was ever fought is a battle in your mind soul had a battle here unfortunately he succumbed and of course all these things were written for our ensembles okay they were written so that we might see and be able to discern the things that have happened in the past so that we may be able to align our lives to that which um is right and true how can i become more selfless is the question we've we've discovered that you know selfishness can take you down how do you become selfless what are some of the activities you have to participate in to actually overcome being selfish tatiana you want to start yes i think the best answer for that would be calling upon the lord and acknowledging his presence in everything that you do we're always going to need god gideon what's the best method to overcome selfishness i think the best method to overcome selfishness is uh putting other people's will first that's literally the definition of selflessness but when you think about what someone feels or or how someone will react to something it definitely gives you a hand in being selfless and i'd also agree with tatiana where she says that putting god first also putting god first steve how can one actually overcome being selfish uh i can say humility humility yes because humility is the state of knowing that you are capable of doing such things knowing that you are able to do much but putting yourself in a position where it's not overshadowing the fact that god reigns over you that god exists and is the one who controls your life so i believe humility has been one of the main ways you can prevent selfishness you can achieve selfishness thanks thanks thanks a lot for that um i want us to conclude and uh as we conclude um and you guys to just give me what you take away from from this story um i'd like to start from gideon can just tell me um what you take away from this story you might take home for this from this story would be the that we might have started well but that does not guarantee us a good ending soul was soul started well soul was god's was god's chosen one for king of isra but when he became disobedient and started following his own ways in what i would refer to as gone he was quite scornful he he started trading away from god and once he started trading away from god it was a direct path towards the exit that he followed of which he could still have turned back but he's taking the first leap towards stepping away from gods kingdom just led him completely out thank you very much tiana um the most important thing i think i took from this story is that we should not be selfless and also that having god in our lives is what keeps us going and also that we should obey gods commandments and when you sin it's good to repent and to know of your wrongdoings steve uh what i'll take away from this is that god has a standpoint in your life and in whatever you do wherever you go you should acknowledge that sound but see that's where the aspect of putting god fast and so we should aspire to take this seriously and consult good whenever you want to make decisions or want to do things in your life okay thank you very much i think what i take away personally from this story is um number one i think selfishness is a sin that is practiced to the most and it's the one that you know creates so many spiritual disorders we have this mental illnesses like so was technically mentally ill and the other lesson i take away is that there is no man who can stand upon a lofty position without danger um is i'm philosopher normally says that it is a glass that is full that is hard to balance uh the one that is half empty is easier to balance but the glass that is full is actually hard to balance so even in the future young people when you may be given positions of power and authority ever remember that that's the most dangerous position that you can ever be in and it's not for you for you to be scared but it is actually for you to depend on god in decision making in such lofty positions thank you very much for joining us until next time kwaheri mighty father what in heaven thank you for the lessons that we've learned from the life of so lord how i pray that you may be able to help us lord as young people lord as we um take on life we may be entrusted with um positions of trust lord how i pray that we may learn the lessons and take homes that we may be able to stand even in the midst of trials to still depend on you be with us for it is in jesus name i pray


Hi you guys, welcome back. We are going to be finishing up our prep work for the so long that we're doing for simplicity 9642 this cutie little dress here and today is all about cutting out our fabric So if you're following along in this so long workbook, this is a free asset that I designed To work in conjunction with this so long to help you stay organized and stay on track in terms of timing as we make Our way through making this project But if you're this is the very first video the so along that you're seeing there have been three additional prep work videos Ahead of this one about finding your size making alterations and just talking through some ideal fabrics for this pattern And today we're going to focus on getting the pattern cut out I'm going to show you the pattern layouts that are recommended in the pattern and then if those don't work out How to sort of make your own layout, which is totally fine. We make the rules, right? So without further ado, let's get to the cutting table Where we can start getting some of this stuff cut The this pattern is pretty straightforward in terms of cutting layouts if you're making dress a These are the pieces that you use these are your layouts if you have 45 inch fabric with nap Meaning there's like a direction to it either Either like the flowers on mine all face one way, so there's like a right there's a top side and a bottom side or if you're using velvet and You know you run your hand across one way and it's one color and he's right, but the other it's another color That's what that means and all your sizes and so all you do is fold your fabric in half Selvages matching right sides together and cut out these pieces and then this is what you do for your sleeve And I think this is one of the skirt pieces Then this layout is for view a also But if you're using 60 inch fabric with nap and it looks like because the cover Model was wearing that velvet fabric because they recommend velvet fabric all of these are going to be cutting layouts with nap and What it means in terms of cutting layouts is that the tops of all of the pattern pieces So this is like your shoulder and this is the like under bust seam This is your waist seam. This is the hem. This is the top of your sleeve the bottom of your sleeves You see what I mean? They're all facing the same way. I do this anyways Just because in addition to nap there can be like color variation in your fabric that you couldn't see When it's just laid out on your table But when you sew a sleeve to a shoulder for example When those two seams butt up if this color was slightly different than this one, it would be more noticeable So I always do this so It's really no change on my end except I can actually follow their layouts and I don't have to make up my own But if you're doing view a with 60 inch fabric, this is you here if you're doing dress B It gets a little bit more complicated because this layout for view B is only for sizes 4 through 14 This is your 45 inch fabric too if you're doing the 45 inch fabric and you have the larger of the sizes 16 18 20 This is me Then you do this layout and then here's your 60 inch layout for B and then dress C Same difference sizes are split between 4 and 16 and 16 and 20 on the 45 inch fabric and then the 60 inch fabric They're all on one so identify which dress you're making Which size you are and the width of your fabric and that'll help you figure out the Layout that you need. I'm 99% sure my fabric is not quite 60 inches, but more than 45 I'm just gonna do a quick measurement here is 54 inches So I'm gonna try and eek mine out of the 60 inch width here Because it's in between but it's closer to 60 than it is 45 So I'm gonna try and do it here see what happens So I'm gonna just lay this all out and then take the camera off the tripod and show you what I've done So sit tight. Well, you don't have to sit very long. I'm just gonna edit the video. So Here you go your magic of the YouTube here is my here's my pattern pieces all laid out Okay, quick update.  So I opted to try and do the 45 inch Um Diagram and when I did that I don't have enough for the sleeve as you can see piece 9 down there is hanging off So I'm going rogue. I'm gonna do my own thing. I am going to back into the Ruffle pattern so I'm gonna do the sleeve on the Single thickness first and then I'm gonna start down here I'm gonna get all these pieces done and see what I have left And divide that by three ruffles So my ruffle is not going to be as long as view bees is In the pattern and that's gonna be fine as long as I have a ruffle of some kind I think I'll be happy even if it's the view see ruffle So I'll show you what that looks like. Okay, so sleeve is cut. I did my own layout where I have eight upside down seven one a two upside down And the upside down part is just to really make the most of all of these little nooks and crannies so you can get You know everything kind of pieced together. Okay, and after I do that And I measure the length of fabric I have left is 33 inches So 33 divided by 3 is 11. So give or take some for just in case I'll go with a 10 inch ruffle which takes me just one inch below view a So, I mean, I guess I could just cut view a but I don't know I want to try and make it as long as possible If it's weird, then I can always just take a bigger hem. So that's the plan if you have 54 inch fabric Yeah, say lobby it is what it is. All right And just a reminder as you are cutting out your pattern pieces don't forget to mark your notches and your darts We're gonna have The back skirt has a dart and the back of the bodice has a skirt and that should be it for darts I use this tracing paper and a tracing wheel if you need detailed tutorial on Darting and then also you'll happen to get a lot of really great information about a lot of other sewing techniques I'm gonna refer you to my a course my sewing basics e-course You'll go over darts pleats straps like all the little superfluous things that you need to know while sewing So I'm gonna link that in the description box. I am so excited for the sleeve Look at all of these pleats. So I wanted to show you how I mark my pleats because I ain't got time to trace all this out So at the little dots I'll put in an actual triangle notch And then here at all of these intersections where the not intersections, but at all these little marking lines I'll just put a little clip and that's enough for me to know that this one goes here and this one goes here I'm also gonna keep all my pattern pieces out so I can refer to that as I get to that step Another thing is down here. There are two additional pleats You don't forget to mark these down here and then also these guys We're gonna actually do like one where it comes up together like this to give us a horizontal pleat as well So exciting. It's so cool. All right. Well, just as I suspected my Fabric gave me a little bit of a headache in terms that it wasn't either width So I'm not gonna be able to have the full long ruffle that I wanted but that's gonna be okay I went ahead and cut out the netting and the interfacing that I need for this project and I'm telling you guys Going ahead and doing that now even though you don't have to you don't have to do that now You can sew like two or three steps of this pattern before you'll actually need your interfacing and even more steps before you'll need your Netting or your organs or whatever you're using, but I promise you if you just go ahead and do it now while you have all the tools out It's the bitter end. I know all we're ready to do is just get ahead with sewing But if you go ahead and cut those things out go ahead and adhere your interfacing to the fabric I promise it'll make for just such a more enjoyable sewing process You won't have to get out any of your cutting supplies You won't have to stop and you know you just get into a rhythm whenever you're sewing and we don't want to have to stop to Handle those things later on so I am going to tell you you must absolutely from your teacher to the student Cut out your interfacing and netting and go ahead and apply your interfacing and while we're at it while I'm sitting here bossing you guys around I'm gonna tell you to go ahead and Clean your machine like just just a little you know brush anything not like a full-on service or anything by any means But just take a little brush through the bobbin case Okay, change your thread change the needles change your searcher thread change your searcher thread needles and literally close down today with Everything ready to go as if you were gonna start sewing immediately I mean some of you are probably gonna do that But if you're watching this video and you're gonna take a little bit of a breather in between the prep work and actually sewing I get that it's kind of a lot Just go ahead and get everything set up that way If there's one less like hurdle for you to get over when you get into your sewing room I know for me sometimes I'm like man I really I really do want to sew because I have to change my needles and I have to change the thread So if you go ahead and just get it all done now You have kind of a blank slate everything's ready to go waiting for you when you're ready to come in here and Start the actual sewing so with that if you're able to do all of those things That I am demanding absolutely that you must do or else Then you'll be able to check off everything in your prep work checklist from the workbook It feels really good really satisfying to do that and then we can just get started with the sewing and we'll start on day one with the bodice and the skirt and Make our way through this pattern So if you have any questions as I have said in the previous prep work videos The best way like general comments and questions the comment section here on YouTube is great But if you need to have like a conversation like a back and forth with me Instagram DMs is way better YouTube's functionality for Conversation is not great. Plus on DMs. You can send me a picture. Um, but yeah, that's gonna do it for our prep work The next time you will see me it will be all about Getting started sewing this bad boy. So I'm excited. The hard part is over. Now the fun part begins Okay, so I'll see you guys soon


Yo what's poppin' everybody, welcome back to a brand new video here on the channel. Yes, this is the first video with the face at the beginning.  But today's video is all about greasy marshmallows in the backrooms. This is a really interesting object and I think you're gonna really enjoy it. So without further ado, let's get into it. Backroom's objects explained, greasy marshmallows. Let's get into it. So greasy marshmallows or object 30 look like normal everyday marshmallows from reality. They're very popular among wanderers and people tend to use them for a ton of different things. Like getting a quick shot of energy or they use them just to get the effects that they give, which I'll talk about later. However, this item can only be safely eaten when it's in its melted form because if they're not melted, they'll immediately give you the negative effects like fatigue instead of the positive effects like a stimulant. It's recommended to keep a melted down portion with you at all times just in case you need a quick energy shot for a mission or an exploration or a recovery thing. So now I'm going to talk about the uses of these greasy marshmallows. Like I said earlier, they're only useful when melted and they make you energized and feeling awake. Kind of like a hardcore version of caffeine. The effects happen very quickly too, almost as soon as you eat them. The most common reason wanderers do eat them is to run away from entities.  You can find these things on any backroom's level, but they're most common in the kitchen area of level negative 599 how fitting. When you do find them, you need to melt them in almond water to get rid of any bacteria and to keep them in a liquid form. The liquid is said to have a fondue or a honey type consistency when it's melted. Nice. Now for the side effects. Now these side effects can happen even if you melt the marshmallows down like you're supposed to. If they're not melted though, it'll instantly have these effects. But the mild side effects include headaches or stomach aches, but you can also get a heart attack from them too. Okay. Eating anywhere from 50 to 90 melted marshmallows will cause your skin to become really squishy and soft and it'll start to become really pale as well. And you'll even start emitting a Swedish smell too. Not Swedish, sweet-ish. Pretty much like you're becoming a human marshmallow. If you eat more than a hundred of them, you'll start to feel extremely heavy and weighed down and your body will start to feel like it's greasy all over. Thus the name, greasy marshmallows. It'll almost be impossible for you to even move. Nice. In order to safely consume these things, you got to take the right precautions like melting no more than 30 at a time and waiting around 40 minutes after melting them to eat them just to make sure they're fully melted. And to make sure there's no bacteria in them, melt them down in almond water. Also be careful where you eat them at specifically since the scent actually attracts hostile entities. Wonderful. So yeah, these things are marshmallows that give you an energy boost, heighten your senses and make you think and act faster and boost your stamina as well. But that can also cause you to swell up and become a greasy human marshmallow. Cool. Thanks for watching the video. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Hope you all are doing great. Stay tuned for the next video, which is on Shady Gray. That's right. I'm giving you a preview for the next video. Thank you so much for watching and supporting. And I'll see you later. In the new year, I'm going to start doing these the entire video with the text on the screen on the other side. But I'm just going to transition you guys into this by only doing the intros with the face.  I got to do this so YouTube doesn't demonetize because they think that my text videos aren't enough, which that's already live, but we're here and we're going to be making some bangers. Hopefully you guys are ready. I think this is going to increase the quality of my videos. Thank you for watching.


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Welcome back to another Adobe Premiere Pro tutorial guys, this one I'm gonna show you how to use audio keyframes to adjust the relative loudness of the voice track versus the audio or the music track. Anybody that's watched any Netflix movie or any movie at all for that recently has always seen where the friggin voices are too quiet and the music's too friggin loud. And then the music's too quiet and the voices are too loud although it's usually the other way around guys. And I'm gonna show you how to actually mix the audio inside Premiere Pro the correct way using audio keyframes. Let's get right into this. This is not set up to go. I'm gonna hit spacebar. It's gonna be a mess and I'm gonna show you what we're starting with. Yeah, a mess guys. That does probably sound like a lot of movies we've watched where you can't hear a damn thing they're saying. Anyways guys, enough griping. Let's just get right into this. I am in the effects panel, but let's just go to editing because this is probably the one that you guys would see. So we're working in the editing panel and I'm just gonna make some small adjustments and boom, off we go. So what basically we've got here is we've got two tracks on top of each other. The top one, I'll solo this one, is me talking. The bottom one is drum track. So it's a big mess. Now I'm gonna go ahead and make some major adjustments to it so that it actually sounds correct. So the first step is I'm gonna go ahead and reduce the drum track. Now this isn't the point of this tutorial but I gotta do this in order to show you how to do the keyframing for the voices. So I'm gonna right click on this audio track here, A2, and I'm actually gonna go ahead and increase the size of the audios. So let's just do that. So we've got a little bit more room to work with and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna show you a trick. I'm gonna click on this line here. If you zoom in, you should be able to see a line. Let's go to right about here. And if you do that, you'll see that the cursor has the up and down arrow. This basically allows you to reduce the decibels or reduce the audio gain without having to do it manually. So I can just pull this down and it will change it. So I'm gonna reduce it to say minus 20 just to see what that sounds like. Okay that's pretty good actually. I'm gonna drop it down a little more to minus 25 because again I'm just doing a tutorial. Now we'll hit spacebar and see what we got. Okay so the audio in my opinion is not quite loud enough. So if I hit, yeah it's not. So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna right click on this. So I'm gonna click on the audio track which is A1. I'm right clicking on it and I'm gonna go to audio gain. And now I'm going to increase the audio gain by, I'm gonna go with 8 decibels to start. Let's see what this looks like. Okay it's pretty good. It did spike a little bit over here on the right side. You generally don't want to go above zero except for like special noises. So like if you're doing a jump cut or something like that. So maybe I'm gonna right click on it again, audio gain. And instead of setting it to eight I'm gonna set it to about six and a half. Let's go with that. Alright it stays a little bit below the zero. We're in good shape. Now the point of this is that I wanted to show you how to adjust using keyframes. And if you hear a bulldog and a Labrador and it sounds like they're wrestling that's what they're doing. The use of keyframes is right here. What you gotta do is you want to make sure that you've got your selection tool selected. And then you want to hold down the command or the control key if you're on a PC. Command if you're on a Mac control if you're on a PC. And what you can do is let's say we've got the audio. I'm gonna work on, or pardon me, the drum track. I'm gonna click on this right here. Let's click on it right here. And you're gonna see here that I've made a point. There is a point there. And if I make another one here you'll notice that I can now lift them up. I can extend them out. So if you want to ramp your audio so if you want it to start quiet and that might make sense let's start it at zero. And then it climbs up to say minus five here over like the first five seconds. Let's see what that sounds like. Do you see what we did there? We made it so that the audio increased over time. You can also do the same thing and decrease it over time. So I'm gonna hold down command or control. I'm gonna make another point here and then I'm gonna drop it down to like, I don't know, pretty damn quiet. Let's go to minus 20. So when I hit space bar from here it goes up and down. Now guys this is just a tutorial. I'm just teaching you the techniques. These are not finished products of course as you can tell. But that's how you can control music. That's how you control voice. You can do all of these different things inside Adobe Premiere Pro. You don't have to open up audition. I hope this tutorial helped you a little bit. I got a ton more stuff coming up. Stay tuned.


This is the fifth generation of the X1 Yoga. Upgrade to the processors, we'll be offering it with Common Lake as well as a few new touches to the keyboard here. We've added some U.T. controls here, unified communications, so you can answer your phone calls really quickly and efficiently. So without fumbling, fumbling for buttons and whatnot. So that means you would, it doesn't mean you would use it to call people. Yeah, you can use this as your call and decline the call buttons. Do you think you can have the same call? We do offer this with modem capabilities, LTE capabilities if you need them. So what kind of ports do you have here? The same ports as last year, a little Kind of Nintendo lock there. And then on this side you have a USB Type-A port, built-in pin support here. So the pin is docked in the silo there and charged there. And then on the other side you have a headphone, combo jack, full-size HDMI, USB Type-A as well as some Thunderbolt ports. So what kind of price? This product, I believe, will go for anywhere between 1200 and up. I think on this one it's a... Maybe you can show the specs? Yeah. So here's a... Actually, the Yoga goes for $15.99 starting price for the new Comet Lake series here. And we have a bunch of different specs for it. These are very configurable anywhere from FHD to USD display panels, 300 nits to 500 nits. As far as memory goes, 8 or 16 gigs of memory and 2 terabyte of PCIe SSD storage. Lots of configurations. Nice. And we have a product we got.