All right guys welcome to day four the 21 convention 2010 This is it and it's gonna go by faster that you can ever imagine and we'll be out of here and I'll see in the year So I think you guys are coming appreciate a big time Our first speaker today is Bill de Simone. I got it, right? Yes always screws name up Very very important speaker that I'm very honored to have here everything that Mark Doug and Drew have talked about is gonna be further intensified and amplified by Bill in a very interesting way and the Bill is basically I think in my opinion the world's leader in biomechanics as it relates to exercise What he's gonna talk to you about today. No one else is talking about hence Doug really have to sky up with good reason You're at a book also called momentum exercise excellent book That I highly recommend. I have a copy myself. It's my backpack. I need to get assigned awesome book And he has a new one coming out. That will also be really really good So here from New Jersey bill to Simone. Thank you for coming. Thank you, man. I Will thank you Anthony Just to be clear though. I have no academic background in biomechanics So not a surgeon not a physical therapist not an exercise physiologist. I'm a trainer I've been training myself since 1970 I've been training clients since 1983 I've been certified by NSCA and ace a few times But around 1998 I ruptured my own biceps and triceps training and that led me to biomechanics books So for the last dozen years or so, I've been working on Taking the biomechanics material and relating it to what we do in a workout so This is what I hope we get out of today Basically why the biomechanics matter as opposed to just whaling way on yourself in the course of a workout First though, let me let me just show you some of the stuff I learned from before the biomechanics All right, this is Muscular Development magazine 1973 First magazine I bought off the newsstand first article. I read in it talked about a Pennsylvania man Found dead in his basement on his bench press He obviously missed the lift hit his chest the ball rolled onto his throat choked in the death. All right. Well, welcome to weight training So later on when I talk about rare catastrophic injuries, that's the type of thing I'm talking about this was a trade one of the first trade paperbacks on exercise and if you note the Groovy mustache and the exquisite form displayed in the squat exercise So that's a kind of a caliber of instruction that was out there then of course Please tell me you know who this is Okay All right. Thank you. Thank you. I did this at an nsca conference once and people had no idea who this was This was you know, the beginning of what muscle and fitness came from muscle builder power and As you can tell from the picture on the right Mind-blowing calves and calves are certainly the first thing that jumped out at you in that picture, right? All right, and then one of his contemporaries Please tell me you know who this is Okay, thank you Again, I did this at an nsca conference once it was guys It was you know chiropractors and therapists and they said oh what happened to his skin and I'm like this night, it's you know the The Eric Banner Hulk movie had just come out. I said are you serious? So that was Lou Ferrigno at 25 years apart and he still looks pretty close aside from the green He still looks like in that kind of shape today the other thing we had you had the magazines on the newsstand and Then you had the the courses that they would sell in the back of the magazines so this was like a comic book and we had a staple in it and was just folded over and You know, that's not the printing. That's not font That's typewriting because if you ran your finger across it it would smudge So this was Frank Zane Another guy in pretty good shape still today and near and dear to hit guys. This is Mike Menser From 76 and a little bit later in the the area of exercise He had he had his own niche at the end, but his real his real role was to kind of bridge the bodybuilders with Arthur Jones So Jones wasn't really bodybuilding minded, but he developed nautilus and medx machines the On the right is the original nautilus machine From the land, Florida, and then this is some of the mainstream stuff that came out education of a bodybuilder and three more reps and If you notice in the top this is this is from a George Butler book on Arnold and if you notice Above his head in the reflections as Menser is coming because at the time Even though even though Arnold obviously went on to much bigger things and Menser didn't at the time Arnold thought Menser was his top competition not only in The sport but in terms of his appeal to the general public. That's why the Menser is coming sign up on top of the mirror Now one thing about this material the bodybuilder the bodybuilding material at the time There was absolutely no biomechanics in it whatsoever. I mean it wasn't even wrong. It was so far off It might have reflected what they actually did so it wasn't quite fiction But the rationale behind it was somewhere between wishful thinking and magic But it was it is very it was very inspiring at the time So this is the best shape I could get in around 1996 Notice the intact biceps and triceps This was after rupturing the biceps notice the divot Well but subtly indicated by the fluorescent green circle and The left triceps is intact the right side. There's no medial head So the the head of the tricep closest to my body is pretty much gone at this point so So in between those two pictures I had ruptured my own biceps and triceps and When I looked into the injury What came out of the the not the muscle material, but the medical material is That that was a very common injury for people who are 60 years old for males around 60 years old But I was 40 at the time So my conclusion was the only thing I had done to accelerate the wear and tear on my shoulders Was weight training in general, but specifically using a really extreme range of motion so When they healed and I went back to working out I noticed that in some exercises. I lost no strength whatsoever. I could bench press I could chin up I could do a standing curl with the same weight same intensity as before Some exercises I couldn't even get into position I would try to do a concentration curl I would try to do a one-arm triceps and I couldn't even my arm would be shaking all over the place I had no control over it. So I put all the exercise books aside and Rob the physical therapist friend of mine's biomechanics textbooks. So these are the the academic Definitions of biomechanics For for me I look at it as Looking at how the bones and muscles of the spine handle load How the shapes and connections at your joints affect movement and How the muscles apply and resist force through the limbs But in the context of working out over a lifetime You know in fairness to the bodybuilding material if you take it at phase value The point of that stuff was to train for a photo shoot or for a contest It was never intended to be something you did for 20 30 40 50 years So 35 years or so ago as the mainstream Population became more interesting exercise The bodybuilders were the ones who knew the way around a weight room So everyone tried to train like a bodybuilder and now obviously if you're an executive or a homemaker or a student athlete That level of time and effort and discomfort is completely inappropriate so You know we call the personal training but the idea came up of tailoring the exercise program to the person Or what the person need the exercise program for nowadays they call that functional training So even though functional training as a whole has kind of gone off the rails a little bit as has personal training the idea of Training for a purpose not just not just spending hours in the gym Did took took you know took hold So this leads to our first our first question Just a quick show of hands here Who thinks a barbell squat is more functional than a leg press who would a barbell squat fans? I said what do we got here? So about half. So I guess everybody else thinks the leg press is more functional On the side get out of here quick quick quick a quick snap judgment, which is more functional squad or bench press leg press Good Lots of good question, which is a better exercise? That's okay. It's okay because that's I'm not going to answer that. We're just going to explore it. Okay so What does functional mean that's a good question and that right now in the exercise arena The finding functional training is an issue because it's used so broadly. It's used so broadly it covers bodyweight exercises apparatus vibration machines cable machines that kettlebells That's right. It's become almost almost meaningless, but but in more terms function is relating to its purpose relating to its design Really quickly I played rugby back in college and for us functional was what was going to help us play our sport better and be better at it And for us the big two were always Squats clean and jerks like we preach those and I mean we're probably wrong I'm guessing but I'm looking forward to the exploration of it, but that's what functional meant for our purposes. Okay Fair enough So here we go. All right, so We're gonna look at the bones and muscles involved here. Okay, so we're gonna start We're gonna start the midsection with the pelvis and work our way down So Pelvis is obviously fairly solid and thick right One immovable joint, but it's a solid block of bone on top of femurs strongest bones in the body right thick strong beams Which are on top of more beams the tibia and the fibula? Okay Which form with with the feet form a tripod? Okay, so you have basically below the knee you have a tripod you have the two shin bones plus the foot Above the knee you have the long beam of the femur resting on top of a solid block of bone the pelvis And when we look at the muscles Involved in moving those bones you've got the glutes connecting the pelvis to the femur right obviously a big muscle We've got three three hamstrings a decent sized muscle connecting the pelvis to the lower leg and Then another big set of muscles the quads connecting pelvis and the femur to the lower leg So below the waist we've got big bones big muscles Few relatively few attachments Pulling in few directions basically straighten the hip and straighten the knee. All right now. We're gonna look above the waist So we have three sections of vertebrae you have the lumbar thoracic and cervical Five lumbar vertebrae. Okay. These are the biggest thickest vertebrae at the bottom of your spine and They interlock so they don't rotate or bend to the side well and The function of that stability and of that size is to support all the weight above it Sitting on top of the the lumbar or the thoracic And if you look carefully you can see that the lower the most The lower most bones of the thoracic the ones just on top of the lumbar are Bigger and as you move towards the head the bones gets gets smaller All right That's because as you move towards the head. It's supporting less and less of a load also Notice the the process is sticking out the back of the thoracic The the literally the spines They're sticking out because the thoracic isn't as locked together as lumbar The thoracic is designed to rotate and those spines basically stop the rotation after about five degrees each or so the Now not not shown here is the cervical vertebrae Okay, but as you might guess they're they're smaller than the thoracic and have less restrictions on rotation Because again, they're only supporting the weight of the head So if we're just looking at the bones Bigger bones on the bottom a descending load at the top you're looking at a pyramid You're looking at a structure that's designed to support less weight as you move towards the top. All right, so Now starting from the bones we're going to work our way out muscle-wise the deepest level layer Connecting the spine or the rotator is which connect each vertebrae to the next horizontally and Each one is very short as is the The next layer above that the multifidus which connects each vertebrae diagonally to the one above it So, but so this is the shortest the multifidus is slightly longer, but the short length suggests Their function is to hold together hold statically not to twist the spine which would which would go with The thoracic you do need to be able to twist because the ribs are attached to the thoracic So you do need more general mobility up around the ribs, but the lumbar has to support the weight of your upper body The next layer is up semi-spinalis and rectus spinae. They're a little bit longer more superficial semi-spinalis connects the thoracic to the points above it Rectus spinae connects the lumbar and lower thoracic with the points above that So now the the most superficial muscles which are longer do account for more of the range of motion around the spine All right, so let's get back to the original question here below the waist Big bones, big muscles, few attachments, few directions Above the waist many bones in a pyramid structure Many small muscles Okay, so you have you have basically a mobile pyramid What happens when you put a barbell on top of your shoulders? What happens to that pyramid structure? Nobody nobody would design a tabletop with a pyramid base and put the tabletop on top of the pyramid If your structure is designed to support less load towards the top You wouldn't do that and then be shocked when it when the tabletop when it didn't work Okay The leg press on the other hand Has you move? Big weight with the big bones and big muscles of your body Also with the squat now to a degree your back muscles will get stronger as If you chain with the barbell on your back, all right But don't forget there's also discs in between the vertebrae and there are nerves coming through there So you're by adding as your leg hips and as your hips and legs get stronger And you're adding more weight to that bar.  Do you see do you see where I'm going with this? Somehow barbell squats in the muscle media are considered more functional than a leg press But the question is functional for what? If you're if you're a power lifter and you have to squat if that's your your competition Yes, you have to squat you have to use a barbell squat because it's very specific But if you're an athlete and you're trying to train the muscles of your lower body The the the bar on the shoulders completely inverts the function of the spine Questions complaints. Yes, sir. What if you're training for a vertical jump? Is this is still more functional to use a leg press? Whether you're training for a vertical jump rugby MMA your spine is your spine right, so You know a vertical jump your Think about what's happening here The muscle of your spine are just supporting Descent you know descending weight as it moves up so Matching a barbell squat with that particular sport Again, you've inverted the demands you've inverted what the body has to do I Realize what I'm saying goes completely counter to sports conduct sports coaching muscle media. What have you? Okay, but your spine is your spine. I mean regardless of your sport so As far as a barbell squat goes, okay, some of the negatives would be the strain on the back muscles and the discs of the actual spine a Regular squat getting getting to what you getting to the point you make though is without the barbell The squatting motion does is more functional Your spine muscles can support the lighter. We're loaded the top of the head the Let me get here mechanically The bar the sticking point of a barbell squat happens at about the joint angle for peak torque for your glutes and your quads So I'll explain more about peak torque peak torque in a minute, but it does vary the resistance appropriately a regular freehand squat So the issue becomes How do you make it more challenging with a freehand squat? Now some some other joint issues with the squat Well, we'll go into the squat a little bit more if you notice if you squat down too low You're you're you look the curve in your lower back flattens out even though the spine is curved overall With the normal spine curves the discs in between or the pressure is


Welcome to the Tuio Revolution on Think Tech Hawaii. I'm your host, I'm Peter Rossin. We're here to talk about an ongoing revolution in transportation, sometimes called micro mobility, which includes a variety of small, generally low speed vehicles, human powered or electric, privately owned or part of shared fleets. And for me, personal mobility also includes walking and powered wheelchairs. So joining me today to talk about this is our guest, Shivani Rommel, she's a journalist with Hawaii Business Magazine. She just published an article in the August edition called You Don't Need Four Wheels to Go Electric. And in full disclosure, I want to tell you that Shivani was a student of mine in a journalism class I taught at the University of Hawaii a few years ago. I tried to scare her away from journalism, but I didn't succeed and I'm glad about that. Before joining Hawaii Business, Shivani was a digital content producer at KITV4 and an intern at Hawaii News Now. Thank you, Shivani, and welcome. Thanks for joining us. Hi Peter, thanks for having me. Okay. So tell us a little bit about your job at Hawaii Business, first of all, do you cover anything in particular? Do you have what you used to call a beat or how does that work? I cover a wide variety of things, but my main interest is in transportation. So I do a lot of transportation-related stories like this one. Okay, and how did you come to write this particular article? Was this your idea or would the editor say go figure this out or how did that happen? It was my idea. I've noticed a lot of kids riding e-bikes around my neighborhood and when I go to our office in downtown Honolulu, I've seen those e-scooter or bike rentals lying around. So I thought, are people actually riding these things? So I just thought it was interesting because we've seen more and more people just starting to use them. So, and I did a little bit of research and I found out there was a state report that said in August, 2021, there was about like 16,000 electric vehicle sales, which was about an increase from like, about 30.6% from the same month a year before. So I was like, oh, electric vehicles, like electric car sales are up, but I've noticed a lot of e-bike sales are also up too and a lot of people are riding it. So I was thinking, this is interesting because from my perspective too, I don't have a driver's license yet. I only have my permit, so I can't buy an electric car. So that's why I wanted to dig more deeper into these alternative modes of transportation. So you're not a rider of the alternative modes of transportation yet, I see. No, my main form of transportation is the bus actually. Very reliable, that's good. I'm a bus rider myself. So, and it's interesting you're talking about the numbers of electric vehicles, but of course we really don't know how many of these electric bikes or scooters or whatever are out there because are they required to register or is there any way to figure out how many there are? There is, I think it's state law that you have to register your e-bike. So like, there's numbers out there. I just don't have them at the top of my head right now. I have a feeling maybe the law, you have to register your e-bike, but I have a feeling there are a lot of them out there are not registered. So we see the growth clearly, but we don't really know yet. We have no way of knowing at this stage how many there really are. And I guess we could go around to all the stores and ask how many are they selling, but you can buy them online too. So that's hard. So just in general, as you started looking into this, what did you learn? What did you discover about these alternative modes of transportation? You know, I didn't realize these alternative modes of transportation were so popular. Like one of my sources that I interviewed said that a national report ranked Hawaii as having the greatest potential for micro-mobility to succeed. So I was thinking, oh, I didn't realize this was a thing because on the mainland, I thought it made more sense because there are more roads and then we're just an island, but I learned that more people are using these personal electric vehicles for short distance trips versus having to use a car.  So I thought that was important too because not only are, if people are using more of these electric vehicles, it helps, it's contributes to the state school of going carbon neutral by 2045. And I guess the other thing I think that's, if you're not a rider of these vehicles, it's reducing congestion somewhat, and especially with parking so tough in downtown or Waikiki or even in Takako, if you can park a little bit away and then get yourself on a scooter or an e-bike and get to where you're going, that makes, you don't have to think about parking in Waikiki, which is, as you know, tough, tough going. So I guess the assumption is that most people who ride these things are young people. Is that a, well, what do you think? Is that true? No, that's not true at all. That's what, that's another thing I learned when I interviewed the marketing manager at E-Bikes Hawaii. She said that before e-bikes were, like she said that e-bikes became more popular, especially during the pandemic, but before then the demographic wasn't the young people. It was actually the old people. Well, I don't want to say old, but it's just like that category. I'll let you say old, speaking as an old person, I can let you use that word for sure. What else did she say about that? She said a lot of old people were buying e-bikes just for it, because a lot of people have mobility issues. So having the e-bikes comes in handy, especially since you don't really need to rely on just pedaling as much. So that was something interesting I also learned. You know, I did, my wife and I do bicycle touring in Europe. And I remember one trip we were on, it was in Holland actually. And most of Holland is pretty flat, but we were going along the coast and we were kind of going on these dunes and we were going up and down and up and down.  And of course, riding down a little hill was easy and riding up those little hills was not. And all of a sudden out of nowhere, these two, and I'll say the old people came whizzing by and they just left us in their wake and we couldn't imagine what had happened.  They were, they'd been there a long time and I went over to look at their bikes and they were riding electric bicycles. And that's about five or six years ago. And I think every time we've gone since I've seen it more and more. I mean, obviously you have to have some ability to balance yourself and you have to be somewhat a mobile but you don't have to be an Olympic runner to ride a bike and a lot of us old people we're not quite ready for the wheelchair yet, but we are interested in that. So, okay, that's great. So we found, what else did you learn? What else did you find out about as you researched the article? I actually did my story prior to doing this one. It was on mobility hubs. So it's essentially the city is planning to make some mobility hubs at some of the rail station. So that's where you can essentially park your car and have the opportunity to hop on a bus and the rail when it eventually opens to the public. So that was the other thing too. I learned it's important to have infrastructure and resources for people to use these vehicles whether it's using the rentals around town or actually purchasing one. I think it's important because it helps solve that first mile, last mile problem. Okay. And what do you, what do we need in infrastructure? Do you, did you, people talk to you about everybody uses that word a lot infrastructure?  But anyway, what does that mean really? Infrastructure and we were talking about these two wheeled vehicles. It's more so building more protective bike lanes around the city, you know, like sharing the road. A lot of the bike riders I talked to talked about their experiences almost getting hit and just the frustration of like this love and hate relationship they have with cars. So that's the, I looked, I looked it up and the city is planning to build more of these bike infrastructures. So it helps the bike riders feel more comfortable using those sorts of things. Yeah. Seems to me there's like a chicken and egg story here, you know, why aren't there very many bike riders or two wheeled vehicle riders? And people will say, well, I think it's dangerous. And if there were more, it would not be so dangerous. If there were more riders, so can't get more riders, but it's too dangerous. But we won't get safer really until we have so many bicyclists and so many riders at the city, which is working on it. It's a long, hard road, but they certainly have added more bike lanes in the last few years than they ever did before that. And there are a lot of them that are kind of in progress. And sometimes they're good with little, you know, with little curbs that protect the bicyclists. Sometimes it's just paint on the road, which I think they call pharaohs.  That's for sure. But anyway, so it seems like there are more and more of these. And did you look into, you know, what's the cost factor, do you think, in getting into this kind of transportation? The cost of... Cost of buying one. I want to buy one. What's it gonna cost you? Ooh, that's a good question. I, for e-mike specifically, it can vary, but roughly, it can cost anywhere around 1,000 to up to 8,000. So it's sort of on the pricey side. Yeah, the big ones, they are definitely can be going right up there. Of course, you can spend a lot of money on a regular bicycle too, a high precision bicycle that's made for riding in races and stuff like that and is made of, you know, the lightest material available. But what's interesting to me right now is if you go into Costco or Wal-Mart Sam's Club, you can buy one of those littlest, little kinds of electric bikes. They're almost like tiny bikes, but they have an electric motor. And you can buy them in those stores or you can buy them online for like $400. So, you know, that's something we see a lot of kids on them, I think, now. So they're obviously the range of vehicles that you can buy if we're talking about bicycles, it's pretty wide. And what about, you know, you looked into the shared scooters a little bit too, right, the ones that we find all over nowadays are all over Coca-Cola, there are more area, they're down in Waikiki in some downtown. For people that don't know what's involved in those, what's involved in riding one of those. So it's kind of like geeky in a sense. So, right, you can go up to one of the e-scooters that you see lying around different private businesses and on the scooter, it'll have you download an app and then you can do all of those things, like set up the scooter and just pay there. So I think it's like a dollar to ride for half an hour. So you can just take it and then go do your business and then park it on the app, it'll have a map of where the nearest station is. So it's kind of like geeky. Now, and I've seen two or three different kinds in Waikiki. I know there are some other companies that wanna get here, but I guess the law is still a little confusing about what's okay and what isn't okay. So that's kind of gotta be worked out. So, Hawaii Business is a business magazine. Why would you think people, your kind of readers would be interested in these subjects specifically? This is sort of an interesting question because I wanna backtrack a little bit because when I first heard about Hawaii Business, I thought the same thing too. It's just a magazine about business and that's true to some extent, but at Hawaii Business, we cover more than that actually. We cover a lot of big issues that impact our island home, its people, companies and nonprofits, climate change, the cost of living, entrepreneurship, innovation, a lot of those big issues. So what I think my article is interesting to our readers because majority of our readers are people in businesses, whether it's like the top CEO's or just anyone in startups, entrepreneurs and with their offices being mainly in downtown and more people coming back now that everything's open up, parking can be difficult and expensive. Like you said earlier, it's difficult to find just an affordable parking space and just having to combat that traffic. So when I talked to my sources for the story, all of them said that they try not to drive when they can and opt to use their e-bikes, their one-wheels, scooter skateboards when they can because of this. And the city has done and is still doing a lot to make areas more micromobility friendly, whether it's more bike lanes plus lanes or just more of these rideshare and rentals. So people care about these things, especially the different modes of transportation because it helps contribute to the cleaner environment. I guess if you're in a business, the only way you're gonna get customers is if they have a way to get to where you are, if you're still doing the brick and mortar kind of thing. So I think that's why so many businesses have been open to Bikki. They like to see the Bikki stops near their business, 7-Eleven has been a big supporter of Bikki, for example, because I think they believe people will use Bikki and then stop off at 7-Eleven or other stores nearby to take advantage of that. You mentioned the one-wheel and I bet very few people who are watching know what a one-wheel is. Can you explain that? It's essentially a self-balancing skateboard, but the name itself, it basically has a one-wheel in the middle. So it's like a balancing board. You just put your feet on and it goes, there's no remote or anything, you just need to charge it. Okay, wow. And in the article I was interested, you say there's a bunch of people that ride these every week and get together and do that. Can you tell me a little bit more about that? Yeah, I talked to this group called Hawaii Float Sessions, which is basically a group of people that ride around the island on one wheels and other personal electric vehicles.  It's essentially like how there's, I know there's a lot of people that have motorcycle groups and they just do like ride around towns. It's essentially like that, but on one wheels. And how, when you say a big group, how many are we talking about, would you guess, on a typical? No, I can't, yeah, I don't want to speak for them, but they have a Facebook group page and that group page has roughly, I would say over 800 members. Wow, so a lot of people. If a quarter of them showed up on any given day, that's a lot. And where do they ride? They start over by the bike factories, all right? Yeah, they start around the bike factory at Kakaoka Waterfront Park and then they just make their way down towards Waikiki. I've never seen that. I'd like, I gotta go check it out. When, what days are they out there? Usually Wednesdays and Fridays. And I know that bike factory also does monthly rideouts too. I just don't know why, but I know they do. Interesting. So you've got the one wheels and on the one kind of one end, you've got the electric bike, which is new, but still kind of understandable. What other kinds of alternate transportations have you seen or do you think people will see around town? I've seen some of the electric skateboards around town and also the electric unicycles, which I haven't really seen much of, but I know people ride them. So it's like, I thought of unicycle at first, I really thought of just like the standard circus one, but it's more high tech than that. I'm sure again, people don't know what that is. Can you tell us a little more about what an electric unicycle is like? It's kind of like the one wheel, but it's more so it's like this circular device and then there's two platforms where you can put your feet on. Oh, right. That's how you go. That scares me just looking at them more. Everybody, they're standing very still and very stiff kind of and I'm not sure I'm ready for that. I used to have a segue here in Hawaii and I used to ride it to work and that's a self-balancing thing. It's only two wheels, but it's made to be very easy to ride. But the unicycles, those are the ones that were really, really scary, I think. Anyway, which one, if I gave you the money right now and said, go out and get yourself one, what would you get? Ooh, that's a hard part. I've been actually researching and debating which one I want and I'm in between an e-bike and an electric skateboard because I can take both of those on the bus. I'm leaning more towards the skateboard because it's a little bit more compact and I know that the bus has the bike rack in the front, but sometimes you can only put two bikes on there, so if there's two bikes there already, you have to wait for the next one versus if I just have a skateboard, I could just take it on with me. There you go. Have you skateboarded old-fashioned kind already? Oh, yeah. I have one. I use it just recreationally, like around my block. Did you ever take it up on campus and use it up with UH? I know, you know what? I should have done that, but I was too afraid of hitting someone while I rode because like UH can get crowded sometimes, especially during like the peak hours where people are rushing to class. I bet, I'm sure. I've been up there and I've seen that, but I'll tell you, I was just in a meeting and we were talking about all this and somebody said that the director of commuter services at UH, and I'm afraid I don't know her name, but they're really doing a lot and they're really promoting a lot of different things to get people out of cars, to get people to be able to move around on campus. So I'm gonna give you a free tip here before I get her on the show, you can go and you might consider doing an article about the commuter services at UH Minoa because apparently, and I just know this from somebody who was talking about it at the meeting, but apparently they really are doing a very good job there and have a lot of interesting ideas. And I know that Vicky recently just expanded up to UH and what happens in Minoa affects all of us because the traffic and the stuff that we're all kind of caught up in that in whatever is happening at UH. If UH is in session, we know it just because we're sitting in traffic and at certain times a day. So you might wanna look into that, but I'm gonna talk to this person too and see what they're doing up there because that's a little city in many ways I think and it could be a very interesting model for what's going on. So you already know how to ride a skateboard so you can probably jump on a one wheel and not even think about it twice, you think? You know what, I was interested, but at the same time I think I'll try it, but at a park versus, like I don't trust myself going on the road with that. Well, we want you to try it in a park too or in a parking lot or something. We don't want the first ride you take to be down in its highway. You know what I mean? I think obviously you gotta learn to ride it and get comfortable with it and stuff, but as you say, you can carry it on the bus. You can take it up to your office. You don't have to, if you leave an $8,000 electric bike parking on the street, you may run into a problem there. So we only have about five minutes left. So let me ask you, what do you think is the future here? Are we gonna, is this kind of a fad that's gonna go away or you think it's gonna continue to expand or tell me what? I think we're going to see more of these vehicles popping up on the streets. It's definitely more affordable than buying a car for a lot of people, especially with boys high cost of living and the state is going to have to do a lot more things to make transportation alternatives or just provide different modes. This year, for example, was a good way that the state did just like a good example because the legislature actually passed the e-bike rebate program, which is where the fund pays $500 or 20% off the cost of an e-bike. So that just encourages more people to say, hey, you can buy this, it's the state's making it more affordable. So I definitely think it's not a fad that's gonna go away. I think more people are going to turn to these electric vehicles just to get around town as much as possible versus having just to hop in our cars. Well, obviously I agree with you. I wouldn't be doing this program every two weeks, but people always say, oh, Hawaii is such a paradise for bicycling. And it's good in many ways, but if you're a working person and you're downtown as you are and you wanna go to a meeting, you don't wanna get to that meeting all sweaty and wind blown and I don't have a lot of hair to get blown around. But so the electric bike kind of creates new opportunities in that area. So I'm excited about this and I hope you'll continue to watch this trend and I'm certainly gonna see what's happening. And I really appreciate the time you've spent here today and I will tell you, I'm very proud of you for having stepped to journalism and having gotten a job and doing actual writing, not just television and not just, which is great, but being out there on the front lines with the writing there aren't too many of you left. So congratulations. And I will say it's time to thank you very much. It's time to say hello to the people who have tuned in. In two weeks, we hope to talk to the new executive director of the Hawaii Bicycling League. His name is Travis Consul and he was here earlier, but now he's back as executive director of the Bicycling League and we'll see what he has to say in a couple of weeks. This, you've been watching the Two Little Revolution on Think Tech Hawaii. We've been talking to Shilani Ramos of the Hawaii Business Magazine and we really are grateful to her for being here. 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Okay guys, guess what? What? She's telling me. Tracy and I and Nancy and Peggy and Bella are on our way to an eagle festival. I have a question. What's your question? It might be the elephant. What's your question? Are eagles and owls? Where are you asking that? I want you guys to know, like an hour ago, we were kind of running late and Tracy's mom Peggy brought out binoculars and Tracy said, what are those for? And Peggy said, so we could see the eagles and Tracy's like, I thought it was a festival. I thought we could, you know, hang out with the eagles. Peggy said, no Tracy, they don't know they're in a festival. They're wild. I thought if it was every weekend they'd pick up on it. She also said, if they're wild, they're not late because they don't know what's up. I was just flying around. No, but the thing is the festival ends because the people that watch the eagles have learned that this is when they are kind of done. It's also the last day of the festival. So they might feel nostalgic and like stay a little longer. Again, Tracy, the eagles don't know they're in a festival. They might by now. I found the answer. Eagles and elves are not the same family. I'm dying. Birds of prey, so like the same category, is the term used to describe the hawk falcon in owl family term. They're also known as raptors. Owl families are mainly not maternal, meaning that they are more active at night. Massive pitcher I day, or hawk family, includes eagles, hawks, kites, like even kites. Oscar, Owl, what's a kite look like? First of all, how you would think that you didn't know that I didn't know or that anyone didn't know that an owl and anything look like a family?  Dawn, Eagle. Already? Flying along. We're going to start seeing some now. Okay, we're possibly at a spot. When we were driving up in the beginning, there was a big sign that said Eagle Festival. This is a nice park. You said there's three towns though, right? Have you seen this before? Been to the Eagle Festival? No bald eagles yet. YouTube Eagle sounds. So they're like, maybe they'll think it's like a mating call. And maybe they'll hear them and they'll think we're like their friends. Anything? This is where it was. Yeah? They couldn't do anything. Try it one more time. What's the sound bald eagle makes? What sound does a bald eagle make? What about a lot of bald eagles? I don't know if they even make noise. I'm curious. A sharp right. Okay. Just open your window and start making the sound. They all come flying towards us. See anything up there? There's one. Where? Right there. Right in the tree. My sounds work. Yeah, let's get out. Right there. Where? Taking a spot in the tree. Yeah? That's it. What? Are you sure it's not snow? No, it's not snow. I don't see an eagle at all. Oh, no way. It is an eagle. Yeah, it's an eagle. It's kind of set in their program. That's legit an eagle. Yeah. That's a bald eagle. Our national bird. It's not a bald eagle. That's amazing. We found a bald eagle, but there's no way you guys could see it. It's a white spot. Oh my God.  Tracy. This is why it ends at four o'clock. Because the eagle is sleeping. I'm so early. Why is he sleeping alone? He's flying. I know there's two. It was kind of far away, so if I would have brought my long lens, I didn't know, but it would have been awesome. Do you see there's like three up there? Yeah. Four, one flying in the background. I'd Washington is a spot. If you guys know something, let me know. Our eagles. I don't know. Thank you guys so much for watching. We love you guys so much. Bye. I don't like the band. It's a little concrete. It's a little concrete. It was supposed to be this, but it looks like according to this, everything's on Saturday. Oh, we missed the festival. We did. We missed the vendor. Yeah, Saturday only. Nine to four vendors, festival, souvenirs, maps, schedule, directions. A free coffee. We could have gotten what? Free coffee. I'm sure a necklace. Tracy, if the festival was yesterday, how did the eagles know to come out today? How did they know? It's the people that want the festival. It's the time of year. Because the salmon are spawning. They go upstream to spawn. They swoop down. They baited them with salmon. That's called nature. Oh my God, there really are birdhouses on every post. Look at all these birdhouses. I'll get out. Look at all these birdhouses on the pole. Birdhouse one, birdhouse two. I just stopped and showed you guys birdhouses. Bird, bird, bird. Bird is the word. I wish I could get a photo. Hey, Love Bug. It's me, Rebecca from the Eagle Festival. I say that because it was not an eagle festival. It was us looking for eagles in the trees an hour away. So we're back.


dye coming up tie dye rookie ilia toporia 125 octagon side nice concourse light blue grand dawson rookie 75 of 199 and silver concourse teed awardees five more boxes give me one second with these cards over good luck arthur let's see a monster here these last few boxes an absolute monster done pretty well so far a couple numbered patties rachael malley autos holly holm tie dye other big stuff too just the ones that come to my minds tricolor premier level mar marlon maria's silver concourse robert whitaker the best that's tough to say we'll do a full recap after these boxes though auto recap and big big card recap brian ortega auto non-numbered ryan ortega tricolor concourse uh devalashvili men of field octagon side rookie got a premier level maroon robert whitaker 88 of 125 silver concourse Cynthia calvio steepa mea chicharale card non-numbered a silver premier level dawoon jung via 200 a box and uh 12 boxes a case silver concourse rookie billy caranty they are on the site link is in the bio this is the last one we're ripping tonight though last personal line of 49 rookie uh not rookie but chao sonan certainly not a rookie in the chao sonan huh on the lime green or neon green jama hall hill tricolor non-numbered premier level scope uh comes at cameo there he is silver concourse john jones and uh he gets you can't say auto non-numbered he gets you can't say cirul is a gainer ganay i always mess his name of 193 or 199 i never learned man let's keep it rolling here four more and then again i'm gonna recap the autos and any big cards not gonna do all the relics at least the non-number one's not gonna do there's a rashad evans base auto non-numbered scope tricolor brock lesnar big brock not scope i said scope that's tricolor concourse a white concourse rookie chris docus 57 of 75 got silver concourse rookie andre munius got alexa grasso on the auto alexa grasso she kind of just writes her name out premier level bronze michael quiesa seven of 175 got tricolor premier level john jones i'm not pronouncing every single name correctly it's because i break like eight different sports plus star wars and other stuff so sorry if i don't get them all 100 percent guys silver premier level israel adesanya break soccer basketball football hockey baseball uh star wars got tricolor concourse rosanama unis the avila scope premier level shawna strickland scope concourse palo costa here he put shaka on the relic card a silver premier level mark colman zebra zebra case hit octagon side zebra is a yon blackovich very nice octagon side zebra good stuff and ian gary rookie neon green 22 of 49 i'm not i'm not i'm not intentionally like i'm trying so i'm doing my best daniel rodriguez ricky light blue 142 of 199 uh link is in the bio for personals this is the last one tonight however don't want a while here this is the last few boxes guys link is in the bio for watching on tiktok uh yeah they do still teach cursive apparently but it's just not really implemented they i think i think kids learn it and then it's kind of just okay well now that you did that you'll never do it again kind of thing even by the time i hit middle school i don't think cursive was no one cared because like we were pretty close to like typing everything at that point i appreciate it guys yeah like i am trying i'm not just like mess up the names on purpose a lot of them are not easy at all a lot of them i also just have trouble saying i think most people do islam mackay uh uh mackachev tricolor concourse yeah i appreciate it guys i don't follow u of c as posi as some other sports light blue roy val 29 of 199 concourse this case needs a boom for sure the first case was really the first case was hot it was really good a lime green um merino 11 of 49 brand of merino you could use something really big to spice it up for arthur here premiere levels silver jennifer maya silver concourse valentina shabchenko my shabchenko these packs feel different than the others i don't know how to explain it shanno mali octagon side a bronze premiere level adrian yanez 157 of 175 someone's asking me earlier we're breaking soccer soccer names for hockey names harder soccer is harder than hockey and uh ufc is tougher than all of it silver concourse billy garantia tricolor premiere level uh davoon young yeah octagon side does sound very strange i'm so used to seeing like even even like uh wwe it's ringside so sounds better than oh look at that there's a big hit 94 of 99 red auto sugar shan heck yeah that's some late night heat right there congrats arthur again 94 and 99 yeah buddy that'll do that's a big one right there concourse red rafael dosanos 99 of 99 heck yeah dude shan oh man concourse silver sentia calvio someone asked about sealed case earlier i don't think so if it's not on the site then probably not so we don't have a ton left silver premiere level francis and ghanu for to have people rip him alive good stuff man that's one of the head that's something we need to let's see if we can keep going here in the last few boxes for your arthur uh tricolor algemann sterling concourse okay two more boxes the last two of the break this is the second case again i'm gonna recap the autos and the big color so not a ton of big color but i'll recap a good chunk of it for you arthur thank you again for the order big order stay late for you man see let's see something crazy your gold habib or something i don't know man kind of throwing it out there gold patty come on premiere level rookie uh uh nishikoo and shake and shake cool silver premiere level amandine yes there was a couple gold there was a gold auto and there's another i forget it was in the first case hey darik brunson on the octagon action signatures darik brunson tricolor angela hill uh sumo sumo sumo energy that's a tough one that is uh bilal muhammad red concourse eight of 99 yeah these are decent value concourse silver valentina shabchenko big color and big autos definitely have good value for uh ufc rosnami unis rally card not numbered the rooms concourse silver jungweli silver concourse rookie ian gary premiere level purple cane volasquez 53 of 60 come on come on tricolor uh nikalu rookie darik lewis premiere level silver amanda rebus silver numbers you want to uh in jcheck rookie scope adrian yanez and bronze coming up after this chris daukus auto rookie non-numbered and bronze premiere level guess who chris daukus 124 175 last box coming up arthur good luck come on monster hit time monster hit time best for last you can get these on the website by the link in the bio but we get these from the strip we got these from distributors i think around release yeah gold comes out would be huge yeah any big numbered card here doesn't have to be gold get some big tight eyes in the first case is a beam i'll go mention pierov 86 of 199 on the relic auto very nice heck yeah there you go there we go tricolor uh magne bronze premiere level rookie adrian yanez 93 of 175 select god pack yeah we could use one of those is that a thing get a bunch of 101s or something uh sliver concourse marlon vera one arthur big hit come on arthur concourse silver rookie chris daukus i'm trying to project a big hit here trying to manifest it redemption come on big redemption there's a maroon nina nunez on the premiere level 15 of 125 come on curtis blade signatures solid redemption there curtis blades curtis blades like for sure a superhero name tricolor premiere level kai cara fratz silver premiere level um malecky b malecky ba malecky maliki no idea where to start with that name uh tricolor concourse uh makachev a scope premiere level jennifer maya no i did not send victor i did not see i have been doing this all night i'm breaking um um makachev on the relic here sub premiere level alex morono zebra zebra come on come on steven peterson rookie premiere level zebra all right there we go premiere level maroon rookie piva pava piva 99 of 125 yes and i talked to sunday he's in my he's in my twitch chat right now and on the back is ali ron murphy 17 of 49 i'm green cool so i'll check it out after this i'm actually just gonna recap and that's gonna be it for tonight it's uh 200 a box but that is the last one for tonight i've been live for about nine and a half hours now so give me one sec to get the hits together here and then we'll go back through them for your arthur at least not not all the hits not all the relics but all the autos and the really nice color we'll go back through those some of them i have top photo but shaw did leave halfway through and then these are the ones that will get top floated or magged in a bit here so yeah one box magic that's all you need some victor hey see you colin um let's there's i don't think there's much of an order here this is all autos here clever to shara max griffin kroshaka that one's upside down um shabazian uncle layev on the red relic auto peter yawn the 199 uh donald seroni relic auto that's a nice one god's uh rackage berrera shonomaly base chael sonnen billy currentio they have bb artistic selections insert that was really cool those are awesome man kamaru uzman blue auto 25 of 49 that's uh joe lausanne who's this carla esparza kain volasquez red jeff neal red a rose number unis base auto another shonomaly base james uh james krauss marlon vera that is magomed uncle layev chael sonnen man they're all over the place this tisha torrez horizontal vertical horizontal the other way calvin uh calvin katar zebra concourse angela hill from the first case that is chan sung young kodi garbrand jaya rosenstreich glover to shara leon edwards blue on the mckinsey dern auto a gold premier level rookie ricky simon mark colman red auto and hosey aldo signatures redemption let's keep going here so we'll get top load in the base do it during the break obviously uh zabeet magomed should appear off on the relic a premier level zebra steven peterson kurdis blade signatures redemption uh chris docus auto darin brunson zebra octagon side yon blockovitch next up is alexa grasso rishad evans giga chikadze brian ortega a field level tie or not field level see i did field level already octagon side field level is ilia taport taporia tom aspen al nina nunez there's a gold auto of um iran al dana a tie-dye rookie auto of adrien yanez so we'll get those off top load of course now we get into the mag stuff i will get this magged the red sean o mali auto number 94 of 99 a concourse light blue patty pimblet 26 of 199 tie-dye concourse valentina shipchenko 17 of 25 tie-dye concourse steepa mea chich 10 of 25 a purple premier level rookie patty pimblet numbered 19 of 60 and a tie-dye premier level holly home 20 of 25 good stuff arthur thank you very much for the order we do appreciate it we'll get all these cards packed up safely top loaded all the good stuff we appreciate it we'll get it out to you in just a bit and that'll do it tonight everybody if you're watching on tiktok make sure you click the follow button we'll be live uh i mean 10 hours from no not even 11 a.m start time for donor's optic basketball you got baseball breaks tomorrow 10 a.m eastern two uh link is in the bio everybody if you're watching on tiktok we appreciate it on youtube twitch thank you guys the best as always yeah i'll check it out send victor for sure have a good one colin stefan everyone at tiktok link is in the bio got personals and group breaks seven days a week we do appreciate it and i'll take care and i will see you guys tomorrow uh evening five p.m start time 10 again 11 a.m eastern here's the main break schedule donor's optic basketball release they're going to be an awesome one and then here is the mlb break schedule can you find it on the same site 10 a.m eastern start time at baseball thanks everybody i'm gonna get that uploading get out of here