I'll try to do a better job this time. So hi everybody, welcome for this new Jenkins Emperor meeting. The purpose of this meeting, I mean, the number of topics that we want to discuss is pretty low. So basically, the main thing that I've been working on and with other people on the infraside was to migrate Jenkins agents that are running on Azure to Amazon. And we are facing few limits, few limitations, I mean, different behaviors. And so I would just try to mention all of them. So basically, one of the things that we did was to create a package image for Windows and Linux machines. So there is a GitHub repository called Jenkins infras-packer-images. So basically, the open to machine seems to be working kind of well, which is definitely not the case for the Windows machine. For them, just to go back to the open tools, an error that we are getting right now, that is not really clear is that after a while, the connection timeouts and the nodes is disconnected. I mean, consider us disconnected, even if the nodes is working well. No disk space issues, the connection is fine. No, yeah, everything seems to be working fine. And if we go back to Jenkins and just click relaunch the agent and it's working again for a few hours until it's disconnected. So that's one of the things that we are investigating. There is a GRI issues related to this. So I will just add it to the nodes. So if you're interested to follow what's happening there. On the VA? Yes. I realize you're doing project things, but I was worried first, should we first discuss the outage over the weekend? I was more concerned about the ci.jankins.io outage specifically or will you get there eventually? Is that on the agenda already? So I was getting there, but we can just, yes. We can get there, no, so long as we get there, that's great. But you're right, maybe you can just bring the context of what's happening on ci.jankins.io. So just everything is kind of related to the work that we're doing with Amazon. So because we provision instances for Amazon, we also reduce the number of machine that we provision on Azure. So that's one of the things. And because we reduce the amount of machine that we can provision on ci.jankins.io, we end up in a situation this weekend where we had no new nodes because open to machines were broken and we did not provision Azure instances. So that's one of the issue. The second issue is something that we investigate with Mark this afternoon. I mean, this morning for him. But basically what happened is for some reason, now when we try to deploy a new machine on the Azure account, it also provision a public IP. It also creates and attached on public IP and the limit of those public IPs is very low. It's 20 public IPs across the region, including ci.jankins.io, cert.ci, and all the other machine. And so for some reason, we did not have enough public IPs, so we were not able to provision new windows machine, open to machine. And so it was kind of also related to the outage that we had over the weekends. So basically what we did to fix it, we first asked Azure to increase the limits, even if I do not understand why we were affected today and we were not affected in the past because we've been using Azure for years now and we never had these issues in the past. So I don't know what changed. So maybe it's related to the fact we changed the Azure icon type, but yeah, right now I'm not sure. So basically what we did, we did two things. We asked Azure to increase the limits of public IPs that we could use. And at the same time, we updated the configuration to not use public IPs, but just use private IPs. But for that, we had to provision agents in a specific virtual network with specific security groups and so on. So right now, windows agents are working. So at least it's working for now, but the final goal is still to use Amazon infrastructure instead of Azure. So right now, we just have a fallback in case something is wrong with Amazon and then we can go back purchasing on Amazon. Any question with the Azure parts? No, all I asked a question in chat if it's time to switch to IPv6. And I think that's a... No, no, no. It was partially a joke. When configuration changed at a time and yeah. But and so now to switch back to Amazon, we have issues with Ubuntu and Amazon and Windows machines. So as I was saying for the Ubuntu, machines of MI are automated. So they're in MI automated with Sparker, those Sparker image, those MI are published. Sorry, so we can provision machine. We can use those machine. It's just that after why the agent is disconnected for some reason does not reconnect back to the master and so either we delete the machine or we just click on the button to just reattach the agent. But this is something that we are currently investigating and if you have some time to help with that, that would be nice because yeah, there is a behavior that I'm not sure to understand there and regarding Windows and regarding Windows, it's a little bit trickier because we created an MI for Windows with all the things that we need to occur, Java and so on. But there, what's happening is for some reason, Jenkins start to use a password to authenticate on the machine and that authentication does not work. And so we are still investigating with Alex to see what's the root cause there. But normally we create a security group with the right port open. So it's either an issue with the way we built the precary night or just ongoing physically. So and it looks like I just checked and it looks like there's a minor configuration issue on the Windows images. The tests are passing now that we're failing over the weekend, so I'm delighted at that. That's really great. It looks like there's a minor configuration issue that Git LFS is not installed but command line Git is. I'll work with Alex Earl on that one. These are the Azure images. So I probably will also adapt the tests that depend on Git LFS to not depend on Git LFS. So if you're spending some time with that, it would be nice maybe to open a georatica so we can try this work. The second thing is it should be pretty straightforward to fix if it's for the Azure images. There are some, there's an eight script that you can update here. So it's probably just installed Git LFS there. I just put the link of the file in the chat. Perfect. I just somehow or other Git is there but Git LFS is not and I just got to work with Alex. It's usually a part of Windows, of command line Windows on Git. Yeah, so it's probably just for Windows. It's probably the script that needs to be updates. There is just one thing that I forgot to mention. Last week we discussed about having harm 65 architecture on the Amazon. And so I also created an EMI for it. So if we use the label harm 64, we can start testing whatever we need to test on that specific architecture. I still have to write a blog post or at least somebody made always more information with the different issues and how we solve them. But yeah, it's hard to stay focused in the current app periods with the current activity. I wouldn't mention something else. Harm 64, harm 64. No, any other question on cedegenkin.io. So yeah, there's something that I want to say. The reason why we're first for support using an agent and we are not planning to move the master is because we don't have any repository with some to our home to configure the Amazon account. So this means that all modification right now happens manually. So this is me doing that in the Amazon accounts. And so I did, I would like to take some time to bootstrap a project similar to cedegenkin.io. Where we can automate the configuration of the Amazon accounts. And so right now we don't have a lot of configuration. It's mainly I created the credential for provisioning institute instances. So we use that credential from cedegenkin.io I created the right policy. So that credential only have access to a region and some. But when I have more time, it would be nice to, for example, maybe work provisionally cluster work with Spark gates or whatever. I mean, really use the Amazon account more than what just provision in the situ instances. But as I was saying, it's step at a time. And so first for just to have into machine and Windows machine working reliably on Amazon. Any other question? Nope. The last part that I wanted to mention is that I'm planning to take some weeks off during the next summer. So if you have any work pending work depending on me, that's probably the right time to plan it to see how we can do some knowledge transfer or whatever. Even if I'll be available, I'm not planning to stay out of my computer during the next summer, so. Yeah. It would be great if we could ensure that by the time you go off, we as infrastructure can help. It's basically everything. So that we don't have one person bus factor. A lot of the factor, whatever you prefer, but it would be helpful for everyone. So basically, the way I see it is that if you're interested by a specific parts, that's probably the right time to ask more permission. So I'm maybe asked to have the knowledge to work on that specific area. Obviously, depending on what you are interested, if you want to help with a specific, I mean, let's say that you need specific credentials or whatever. We'll have to, because I mean, we have to decide if we trust you enough to give you the right permission or if there is enough people working on this. I mean, it's difficult to say, but while we try to be as transparent as possible, I cannot give root access to the machine to the first person who asked. Yeah. That's perfectly fine. So the idea is really like, if you already work on a specific area, whatever, maybe that's the right time to move to the next step. For me, the main question is there, where we have no contributors at the moment. So for example, for me, it's less of a problem whether I'm interested or not in a particular area. It's a rather a problem, what to do if something goes wrong there. And for me, reaching out to you would be a last resort. And before that, if we have a list of these gaps or whatever, probably we could spend some time towards the summer to reduce the number of them. So we don't disturb you. Okay. So this is something, I mean, we still have the time before summer, but I just want to bring this in an enough in advance so we can keep this in mind. So I was having a conversation with somebody not long ago about the Datadog monitoring that we're doing and just saw an email yesterday that highlighted that it had the Datadog had in fact detected the outage that we had over the weekend. I just didn't look at it and didn't see it. So I was really delighted. It has a monitor already for some of the things we were having failures on over the weekend. This is thus reminding me, I've got lots still to learn about infra. So typically the errors that was reported by Datadog is the size of the build queue, the job queue. And this was a check that I put in place like something in September, something that is just a way to know if something is wrong. So I think like if we have more than 180 time in the job queue means that something is wrong somewhere, but yeah. Yeah, would it be possible to create a list of errors where there is no other contributors who could help at the moment? The thing is difficult to say because we already have a rent book. So if something, so something that I was thinking maybe I can improve is inside the alert, inside the error that is written by Datadog is directly a link to the right rent book. But we also have issues that are not necessarily document and that is not necessarily easy to document. So for example, we had an issues over the weekend about a JIRA. So basically JIRA ran out of disk space. And so we just had to SSH on the machine. But because that machine does not have a lot of disk space, there are sometimes different. So for example, last Friday I cleaned up some old logs that were not useful this Monday. I just deleted all Docker images and stuff like that. So it's more like there are bugs, there are errors that we can easily document and so say do this.  And that's where it's difficult to document. Well, I'm not talking about document and how to fix that, rather document and where the gaps in terms of ownership and access. Because yeah, documentation on run books is definitely important. But first step would be to understand the way we miss people. And after that we can probably see what we could do. For example, me and Mark could dedicate some time to study this area, maybe do some knowledge transfers with you, record, or not create run books. But yeah, first item first would be to understand what are these areas. Okay. So could the idea of using the run books as a first, which of the run books are already hot or a topic related to the run book is hot or is low coverage to use Oleg's idea? I like that idea a bunch. Oh, sorry. Personally, I really like the idea that the way you said the ownership gap. The idea is really to identify what are the things that I'm the only one. So a small example is Amazon account that you are running at the moment for some reason. We can only have clubbies employees. This is something that you have to fix. This is something, this is an account that needs to be transferred to the community. But for now, the gap is if you're not a clubbies employee, you don't have access to the log. So this is definitely a place where, for example, Mark and Oleg could help. Where, for example, CLE Jenkins.io does not mean this is the only thing. CLE Jenkins.io, for example, we could have more people. The Azure account is the same. We could have more people. So typically for the case of the Azure account, I was maybe thinking to add Tim Jacob on that part because he has an Azure to not break the things. So yeah, I really like the idea that there is of having people with specific ownership on specific areas. So I try to give a list and send that online from the list. Any other topic that you want to? Yeah, I put some topics to the list. They're just in the proper, such as the changes section above identify ownership gap, somebody ideas. I'm checking this card. So yeah, regarding the approving custom auth app, there's something that I would like to do is to enable the GitHub accounts. I would like to restrict third parties access. And I'm not sure if it will impact the custom auth app. So, yeah. So in my case, I thought the word specifically about Jenkins CI GitHub organization and about how use cases core change generation because the current situation that if you open Jenkins CI Jenkins releases, you can see that GitHub actions is listed as an account which cut the release. And I would like to fix that. I already put type of fix which basically replaces the GitHub app by another auth app. I can do that. There is no problem with the STPI limit, et cetera. But I need approval or whatever it's enough from other interacting members to do that because there may be concerns I didn't consider so far. So I just have a question. Would it be easier to run the release drafter for Jenkins? Or is it something that could be possible? Well, technically it's possible. Practically, it's not only about the release drafter. Right now we use GitHub actions and we change several lessons in order to generate change logs. And this is the current implementation. Obviously, we could move everything to Jenkins. But firstly, it would create additional STPI consumption. And in the current state, I would rather prefer to avoid that. If there is strong requirement to run a change log generation from Jenkins, of course we can do that. So anyways, in terms of permission and Jenkins here organization, you probably have to contact Daniel for this because I don't have the keys there. I have everything I need to configure the organization. I just need to send off from the team that there is no problem with it. I think Olivier, what Oleg is looking for is agreement, I agree, yes, you should have your authorized to do it, Oleg. I think I already replied to that in the email, so for me it's no? No, you didn't. That's why I edited this, the agenda. So maybe my email was not sent, but yeah, for me I thought that I already replied to this. Yeah, you just, I was wrong. You said that you need to update templates. So yeah, sorry I forgot about this message, but it just didn't seem as yes or no regarding the old app. No, for me it's fine, we can go ahead. Okay, so I will just implement that. And so there is one, there is another point that you asked. There is another, so yeah, under Outs, it's totally fine. The other day on the RSE, you also asked if it was possible to enable GitHub issues for Jenkins Infra, GitHub repository, so the perpetrator repository, and yeah, not just something, I mean, I don't have strong opinions about using GitHub issues, it's just that I don't want to have to, I does not like yet to have multiple tools to switch, because I mean, it makes it more difficult to generate reports, it makes it more difficult to find the right information and it's not young. So the thing is, there is that discussion about using Gira, getting rid of Gira or whatever, or fixing Gira, but this is something that we still have to work on. Right. So if we don't want to use two trackers, the main problem is issue migration. It's possible to make great issues to GitHub, but sometimes it's just an overhead. Practically what I've seen in other repositories, once you enable GitHub issues, the traffic to Jenkins Gira basically vanishes. So it would be an archive for historical issues, but I wouldn't expect too many activities there. Okay. So I'm not really concerned about duplication, especially if we say that, okay, now GitHub issues is a source of truth for new issues. No, yeah, but my point about duplication was more, for example, okay, you have GitHub issues for the pipette repository, but not for the VPN, for the Docker image and stuff like this. And on the infra, we have a lot of repositories. So my point was more either we enable for all the infra work or we don't, because I don't want to have, when I start working or when I start to look at this, I don't want to have to open two tools, and I don't want to keep track of the two tools. It's already difficult enough to follow all the notification and all the things that are happening. So... So for me, it's quite straightforward. If it's a user-facing repository where we can facilitate contributions of feedback by using GitHub issues, it would be in favor of using GitHub issues for repositories which are backend and which are not really visible to users. I don't care. And I'm fine with using Jenkins Jira. But I like the statement that you said, do not care, because that means we could switch on Jira issues for all of Jenkins infra as suggested by Olivia and not violate the constraint you gave Oleg. And I am all for turning on GitHub issues. The experience with Jenkins.io for GitHub issues has been positive. I think it's been very good. And I think we would benefit by turning on, by enabling GitHub issues. So as long as we don't have to migrate out of GitHub, it's good. Migrating out of GitHub would be so big issue. Yeah. But yeah, I don't think we need, I mean, I don't really care about migrating all the issues from Jira to GitHub, because if it's really an issues that come back, then we can just reopen the issues and just put a link to the one from Jira and that's fine. And anyway, we have a lot of old issues that are not relevant anymore because we thrive old and the project is old and some, so just in different ways to start from zero. But yeah, for me just like, except that for security work, everything is public anyway. So I'm personally, I'm fine to use GitHub issues. It's just that it's a different workflow and something that I try to think about. So with regard to GitHub issues, I gather that we're not settled on a decision yet, but it's an open topic. Do we have? To me, for me it's an open, it's still an open topic. For me it's still an open topic. I'm not sure yet, but I mean, there are so many people that are still strongly in favor of Jira that I don't want to force a move in either ways because for example, we'd say that I know that Daniel rely a lot on Jira and because he created, this is for the same reason that me created dashboard. And so if we decide to switch everything to GitHub issues, we just to re-implement some work that we did for the projects. So for example, in the case of Jira, yes, I have dashboard to say who's working on what are the most critical components that we have and things like that. So it's a way for me to say, okay, I spend a lot of time on Seattle Jenkins.io instead of trusted or whatever things and so if I decide to switch everything to GitHub issues, then yeah, I have to also change this, which is not a big deal, but yeah, I mean also some work and changing my process. So yeah, for me it's still an open, but I would like to have that discussion because we need, we have to find a solution before September, October, or November. I don't remember, but there is a deadline for Jira because the current state is Jira need to be upgraded. We need to work on the database. And so yeah, just to remind the current states, Jira is using a deprecated my script or post-created version. And so the new Jira version do that supports the database that we have. So we have to upgrade the database. We have to update the collision on the database. So there is some work with the Jira. Then you have to upgrade Jira. And so this will require some work. And if we don't do that before November, we won't have fixes for new vulnerability. And we know that Jira is a popular target instance. So we always find the buzz that we try to be as much as possible updated. So anyway, that's not different topics, but yeah, we have to keep this discussion open. Okay. Yeah. Specifically I have questions about the update center because currently we have issues with plug-in site. So plug-in site itself uses GitHub issues right now. The update center, which is in many means a part of the update site uses Jenkins Jira and it complicates everything. And it's a public-facing repository. So for example, if a plug-in maintainer wants to replace the plug-in or something like that, now they have to use Jenkins Jira infra project. But moving to the request management that to GitHub would be reasonable. So who is the person who solved most of the issues regularly related to the update center? It depends. Security mostly Daniel and Vardek nowadays regarding the rest, whoever handles them. So my guess would be to convince them to switch to GitHub issues. So personally, I don't spend a lot of time. I mean, this is not a project that I'm tracking. So for me switching that project to GitHub issues is fine, but here you have to convince them for that. Yeah. Another similar topic is redirect for Viki because you're right now redirects for Viki. They are managed in Jenkins Jira and they believe we are not open to open and get help issues in Jenkins infra slash Jenkins Jira. So you want to use GitHub issues and that's why you wanted to enable GitHub issues and Jenkins Jira slash Jenkins Jira? I have, I want to enable it in some particular repositories. I don't want to enable it globally. I believe that it's up to maintainers of particular components, but yeah, I'm just exploring some components where we potentially have problems or where we can potentially get benefits from using GitHub issues. Because typically enabling GitHub issues just for this, that's what I mean by some issues will be reported in Jenkins Jira and others not and that's why I'm not really in favor of enabling it. But yeah, if other people think that I'm wrong, I mean, I'm totally fine to enable it, just that this is my concern. This project is not only used for playing for Viki redirect rules. Yeah, that's right. So in the case of Viki redirects, I understand that it's unlikely that we enable GitHub issues there. For me, it's just a potential problem, but I think that our guidelines will just request a making a pull request. It's easier than submitting an input. Because do we really have a lot of contributors that do not have Jenkins accounts? I believe that everyone who contributes seriously has a Jenkins account. So you can write the blog posts and other stuff without it, but in principle, I can create it in a few minutes. Because it's quick to create, you have an access and I just mean, yeah. I don't think the concern actually is about account access. It's rather that, at least for me, GitHub issues are attractive because they're much closer to and very precise to the component that I'm doing work on. But that admittedly does sacrifice many of the benefits we get from JIRA. So I don't think only you're proposing a global switch, rather one repository at a time and only when that repository makes sense and its contributors agree that it makes sense. Exactly. So the specific when you were, I wonder do we need a process by which we say who are the contributors to this repository and how do we get them to unify that we're okay switching this one. I took the preemptive choice to switch Jenkins.io to use GitHub issues. I enabled it because I happened to be an administrator and I didn't consult anybody. I just did it. The danger of course is that now we could get bug reports in both places. I accepted that danger is very much worth it. Yeah. And plus one with regards to it and we can move the entire website project to GitHub issues if somebody has time to do that. So maybe Mark, if you're interested to experiment with issue migration, you have a playground for this. Yeah, which I'm actually not. I will happily work to close out the issues on JIRA that are there and accept new issues as part of the transition. I don't feel any need to have a single repository for that particular project. Now there are others. I'm unwilling to enable GitHub issues on the Git plugin because there are 500 issues in JIRA that I will not move, right? So it's just different. For me, it's per repository is where the decision is. Yeah, right. So I think we are running in circles a bit. So definitely it's an open topic. It's not something we're going to decide today. Yeah, anyway, because we still have to think about it. So yeah, I propose that we stop the meeting here. We are already over time. So thanks for participating in the meeting. And yeah, see you later. Hanar, see you later. Bye-bye. Bye.


My name is David Lawrence, regional sanctioned agent in Central Alabama and we're going to talk briefly on brown rock control and peach production if I can advance my slide. Okay, so brown rock is caused by monolenia species most commonly here in the southeast. It's monolenia fruticula and it's one of the most commonly or one of the most economically damaging pathogens in peach production. And one of the reasons for that is because it basically is a threat to the peach all the way from bloom to harvest. And so when we're looking at controlling brown rock we need to look at it as a season long management strategy. So brown rock gets out of the publicity and the attention because as you can see the picture on the left how ugly that is you spend all year producing this nice ripe fruit and you get within a week of harvest and then two days later it looks like this. But it also can affect a bloom we call that blossom blight and then from those blossom blights we get twig blight or canker which we will discuss briefly because like I said we kind of need to look at controlling these this blossom blight to help us prevent inoculum for brown rock later in the season. The blossom blight uh flowers will wilt and turn brown. You'll see this gummy substance that comes from the blossom and this produces inoculum for brown rock on mature fruit. So if you get this on one of your twigs in your tree the rest of the fruit that are good are susceptible to this you know getting these spores on them. So we really got to focus on keeping our cover sprays out there. On this picture I just took a knife and this you know this disease isn't too far developed at this point. I took a knife and you can already see the canker on the stems and so typically this canker will girdle the shoot and create tip dieback. These leaves will turn brown and everything from that point forward will need to be pruned out because it would like to stay a predict inoculum for future infection. You see the picture there that is a mummy from the previous year and so there we are already in the shrug split stage of development from this year and there's still mummies on the tree from last year so those should have been knocked off. I understand you know if you've got a hundred acres of peach trees it's hard to knock every one of those off but if at all possible get those out of the field or get them off the tree at least not possible get them out of the field but at least knock them off the tree. Typically see this when we get into 70 to 78 degree temperatures so in the springtime when those temperatures start feeling good outside that's when this disease is most prevalent. In extended bloom periods it's hard to keep cover sprays or preventative fungicide applications out there when we have prolonged bloom periods like most diseases, frequent rain events and then like I said mummies being present in the field. Okay so brown rite. Brown rite starts at a small round spot on fruit it'll eventually cover the fruit and usually it's fairly quick these like the picture before these mummies typically stay on the tree and produce spores for future infections and spread by wind rain insects and even harvesting you know we'll walk through the field it's tempting to reach up there if you see one of these grab it off and throw it on the ground but then you're spreading that by the spores on your hand. If nobody's ever seen this in person you can walk up and just pretty much blow on one of these peaches and it's just a powder just a fuzz so it easily spreads from fruit to fruit. It's more susceptible to brown rite injury these are all extreme examples but I'm just you know if you see fruit this this damaged go ahead knock it off because it will get brown rite more than likely and then that's just going to create more spores for infecting your healthy fruit. Just in case you're curious go and left to right you got bird damage got cracking from expanding too rapidly bacterial spot stink bugs and then the far right is what I believe is cold damage pit is basically damaged from the inside out and you can already see some brown rite or monolanny of green fruit rite on the bottom of that fruit. Preventing it pruning you know pruning is essential for peach production and increases air movement increases sunlight we remove that disease wood that is you know the noculeum for future infections removing those mummies thinning thinning is important and I put on there prior to pit hardening any thinning practice is typically done before pit hardening but if that can if it's done before pit hardening the fruit pretty much lays on the ground and shrivels up and goes away it won't develop brown rite if it's after pit hardening typically it'll lay there produce brown rite site selection like any orchard anything anytime you can get it up on a high elevation side with good air movement the better off you're going to be and then fungicides we'll spend the next couple slides looking at fungicides using an air blast sprayer sprayer is pretty important air blast sprayer besides having multiple tips the fan really blows that spray into that tree if you've never seen one it's this a lot of wind it bends those branches back and really opens up that canopy where that spray can penetrate the canopy of that tree high gpa we typically spray at least 100 gallons to the acre and then like I said the next few slides we're going to talk about rotating fungicide groups these are some of the fungicides that we spray um if you want to take a picture of this I'm going to kind of go through it fast but I have the inferences there with each product is the frat group um main thing when we're looking at season long uh fungicide program is want to be sure to rotate these groups um oh there's going to be kind of a season long look at what your spray program could be this is for a low to medium brown right pressure we want to start our sprays during bloom and those are some of the products that are available um you know you can swap these around just because I have it in bloom doesn't mean you can't spray it later in the season as long as it's not one of these at the bottom of the screen uh in vanguard is not not labeled after bloom row rule is not labeled after petal fall and bravo is not labeled after shuck split um but you can you can alternate some of these other ones if you know if they're not if some of these aren't working for you if you have resistance issues um so we pretty much want to get at least one good bloom spray um shuck split is a critical time for cap control as well I really like to spray bravo during the split um if this was a blank slate the first thing I would come in here and write down is bravo and then I would build my program uh after that um I can is pretty much the interview standard for cover sprays during the summer and then once we get into um you know the two weeks before harvest uh 14 days and seven days that's when we start rotating in some of those other fungicides uh these here on the 14 days those are all 7 11's um those are probably the best option that we have for brown rock control I like to get those on there uh about two weeks before harvest and then rotate to uh something else these are these are threes uh inspire super the nine and three um we'll look at our brown rock pressure man it added another brunt bloom spray so we had two blooms uh a shuck split cover sprays and then added in another pre-harvest um basically just add man tops man with cap tan I always recommended to add tops man with tan just to reduce any resistance issues and then picking one of the 7 11's and then picking one of these threes uh important most of our fungicides have a zero day pre-harvest interval uh inspire super linen sensation are only two that have more than a zero day so it's always important to pay attention to that since we're spraying around harvest time um you know I have one here 21 14 and seven that hardly ever happens uh it's a good plan but you deal with rain you deal with harvesting you deal with um you know windy days so you know it may be 10 days it may be three days you just need to at least get some of these for ease out um before harvest and then here's one I just made an example program I selected some of these products um if I was going to spray peaches that's what I would do and then so in bloom pick the vanguard it is not labeled after bloom it's a group nine and so that lets if we don't use it here we're not able to use it anywhere else and so the same thing with overall top or down um group two if we don't use it here at petal fall we can't use it anywhere else and so those are both really good products for uh blossom blight and we move into bravo which is you know good for uh brown rod as well but it also really good for uh scab and then we spray tap tan and then getting our tops in them pristine and indoor which are all different different groups um and their scholar is a post harvest application uh a dip um most people don't do that but I just listened on here just so you can see see it in a program uh but you know here here's pretty good program a lot of rotation um I would say this is probably the best best effort for reducing resistance uh fine summary um just orchard maintenance pruning keeping your orchard clean is going to help you um down the road when it gets when it gets time to get into harvest season um pulling insects to prevent entry a lot of stink bugs or shark fears they they break the skin um you know that having that ammage fruit uh makes that fruit more susceptible to brown rod injury and then fungicide these are all preventative fungicides these aren't these aren't uh for controlling measures they're all prevented so be sure to rate those and um hopefully everyone have a good season and I believe that is it for me I know that was kind of fast anybody has any questions there's my contact information and thank you all so much


Yes, and we have a beautiful lady in the building very talented singer-songwriter performing artist recording artist She goes by the name Prishon and I know you know her if you're a fan of the show We have done her songs a couple of times on our hit or miss segment. So last week actually, right? Yes for the song forever. She's here She'll be telling us about herself. We get to know her for those of you who do not know her. Yes Prishon Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Yeah, happy to see you. Happy to have you. Yeah, so kindly tell people who Prishon is I know some of them know you some of them don't know you. Yeah, you already did it in your intro. That was a very good one Prishon is a recording and performing artist. I also write music, summer songwriter An entrepreneur, a daughter. Oh yes, I forgot that. Yeah, a daughter And yeah, just a good person in the general So in the last couple of months, you have done Quite amazing music. You've landed some big collabs Conscience, conscience. Yes, Ben's role and one Gine. So tell us a bit about that Tell me how you came about Doing a song with conscience as a song with conscience came about He he came to Kenyans in 2019 and was doing a show and he wanted Vocalists for the show. So he asked people to send videos of him singing on Twitter I submitted my video and then he ended up choosing me. So we performed together in 2019 and then part of the agreement was He was supposed to do a song for me. Yeah, and then he went in my A He went in my A until he was coming back to Kenyans 2021 I think it was this year 2021 Yeah All right, and it is a good song. Is there any hopes of him actually being on the video? I honestly don't think so. The thing is we should also remember that conscience is I'm assigned artist. He's under management. So he can only stretch his agreement so much I'm grateful for that. How is the reception of that song? It's really good. Yeah Yeah, I feel like it could have done better if we had Collabbed with the manage both managements to push the song But like I said, he promised of us he didn't promise all those other things. So as far as what he promised He fulfilled his promise. Yeah, he delivered. So I'm very happy. Yeah, plus I got to do a song with a legend I know Speaking of management, you have been under digital for like a year plus. Yeah, how has it been to now to now? Yeah, how has that been for you? I feel like I finally I finally found my match Yeah, I feel at home And I think the reason I'm able to do very good music now is because I'm very comfortable I feel embraced. So I'm my best self. Yeah I'm very very lucky to have fun people who understand my music And don't try to change me or the way I sound have you have you had other people who are trying to change you? Of course, babes because I can't remember I used to be told that people always have An idea of what they think you should do that worked for someone else that they think will work for you If I if I had a dollar for every time someone called me You'd be rich, I would be rich Yeah Yeah, so um, you have done a collaboration with Avril from a digital Are we expecting anything from you and Bridget blue? I don't know if she signed and that she is part of our label. She is part of our label Of course, but as for now, she's Yeah, yeah, so I'm giving her space to do her thing But we're definitely going to make music together. She's very talented. Yes. All right So you you also dropped your album quite recently. Tell us a bit about that There's a performance I attended where you are performing and I think I enjoy that is where you give people most of the songs Yeah on the album. I released actually album methan one I released it last year At that point in my career and we want to feel seek one a song enough It's one catalog Let me say I'm gonna eat a show singers that perform like an hour or two Because I only had like three songs out of the three years that had been going to the studio So when I got sent to digital the first Agenda of the first year was to Content creation. So I made as much music as I could I had like 50 songs And then I chose like 17 to be part of an album Yeah, and I'm I'm happy I was able to do that because at least side is a funny show and you were 18 You were in me at two hours. Yeah Not sure I think you performed for more than Yeah, I was like one and a half hours. It was a one and a half hours and you have another show today. I have another show today Yes, tell us a bit about that. I have a show at captain's test Mombasa road with 338 Could change I'm alive but she can come up only see All right, so To my favorite collab from you Tell us a bit about I love us or I think I played almost every day So much Me and Ben have been boys since You've been boys We've been boys since 2015 Because it's not a post to be Tito It's like what So I'm gonna be a little bit But Right The right song So actually I had written the song and I was done with it But then I felt The way we talk is the way he writes his music And I felt that So when I was calling him for the song I was calling him to help me change Change some things in the songs But then it ended up being a collab I think he likes the song really He penned a customer seat to find a two song But then I just Yeah And it turned out really really well It's such a beautiful song You weather You call someone else to touch them They just call me out Anyway In your writing You never used to be a writer really Not really What has changed and how has that impacted your music? When I started doing music When I came to the studio I just knew How to sing And somehow ended up in the studio So I started writing my own songs And then I started writing my own songs I just saw my own songs Even when I was going to Imba I thought I had a better direction I thought I had a better idea But I didn't have a better direction Until I shared my own songs And I felt But they were actually I wrote my own songs And I felt that I was embraced Because I was a digital I was Imbiwasana Because music is supposed to be a representation of who you are So how are you guys ever going to know who I am really if you never hear what I write And once you know who I am and you judge and criticize Badom and comfortable That's how I ended up opening up And I feel like now When you listen to my music you can get an idea of who I am Some aspects of who I am just from listening to my music So what next What next for Sean? I'm supposed to drop an album Actually I don't have elections I'm ready I'm ready The album is ready So I want to see how things go in August If things go well I'll release it in September I'm ready I have a party planned for you guys I'm cooking a turn out Okay So my album is ready and I can't wait to share it So actually forever This is from the album Oh nice So how many videos of that have you done How much of the work is done in terms of video production I've shot two So that one for Wanjin and then two others Alright I know time is not on our side and I would have loved us to keep the conversation going But please tell us where people can find your music and also plug your beauty brand Yes I'm excited I'm excited My beauty line is called SeanBeauty SHON from the word Prishon Just follow it on Instagram SeanBeauty254 If you want to listen to my music Just search PrishonPrySHON on all streaming platforms I'm also on YouTube Prishon, Instagram Prishon underscore Prishon is me too So I wrote Prishon for me So thank you so much for coming through Thank you for having me I think I've waited for this for such a long time Ah even me Yes and hope to see you some more Yes So up next is Prishon I don't know I don't know


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Yeah Daniel Radcliffe is worth over two hundred million dollars not because he made All his weird films right now. No that though those those cast members Have made and will always be making a lot of money from that. Yeah, today We have the fourth part of the last last part of the shower con beneath the surface interview series If you haven't seen the rest of the parts are all already on YouTube Parts are on YouTube. Yes, including the private parts. Just look it up Anyways, but we've loved this. It's been a fantastic series so far very intriguing everything she does is always just fantastic very insightful I think the only thing I don't like that. She does it sometimes in her reviews.   I love our interviews. Yeah She's a great interviewer and obviously Clearly she's earned a reputation in the same way someone did like back when Barbara Walters was doing it or currently Oprah When they interview these people they there's an established decades-long relationship and they trust her implicitly. Here we go The steps yeah, and and about your superstar life, and I wanted to show you this is one of my favorite scenes from the film Where we've not seen I Didn't know they were gonna do this in the beginning of the video. I guess they're just watching the whole film right now It's like it's like Shara Khan is reacting to his own stuff Who knows how long this will go on a long time apparently though. I don't I About should not any longer knowing what's real and what's unreal and then you do a film like this in which there's Ah That's so badly we don't want stories ruined we're going to watch fan at some point I've always Be scared I have which is schizophrenia so I'm hundred percent There is no two ways you told me that big story, but job itself saying how are they you always calls me srk1 or is it srk2 I Actually when I was writing my book I Did chance upon this little Word that somebody mentioned to me once where I am so emotional and I'm so detached from demotion Which I think is I am emotional emotional about things I'm oversensitive and then I'm be detached also so for me the Mindset is the motion specifically when I was being fan They were moons when I have which seldom happens to me. So now that is not happening to me But while doing this seems I started crying and not for the same and some seems I was not meant to cry But I had a lot of issues When the superstar was to play the fan playing him Right, I was really awkward And I'm very proud of that scene. You know when I come in and act like him acting And I I would cry doing it I've never been so frail as an actor that I've succumbed to the emotion I've never been the actor who cries on the sets Give me a moment. I don't need a moment Some pro actors do need a moment I'm frail and right. I'm very frail But don't act as have to be frail. You can't be frail while doing this. You have to ask what you have to Suppose you sometimes start weeping and breaking down because it's not going the way you want I'm an actor. I'm supposed to come and try You know, you have to be very honest about being an actor. A lot of the bravaro Lot of the stuff that I do on stage with the immense amount of confidence I have is I think 90% what I'm not It's a desire to be that person. I've got a lot of complexes. Obviously inferior ones being top of the list I I have so many issues with my physicality And that's why I'm so bloody confident on stage And then close the release when it didn't go well, I cry a lot Yeah, how could it not? What about when they do really well like both? Especially if you were convinced it was really good and and it just doesn't turn out I think he was really proud of his performance in fan too. Yeah, it's from what I've heard Trying something new again I am such an impudent incorrigible and uncontrollable I don't want to self-centred If you tell me not to do it, I'll do it again, and I'll do it worse You know when when Raman didn't do what I thought it should I'm going to make and I'll wheelchire but I'll be a super hero I will get it right. I cannot let it go wrong. I just had a scene while in the car if you throw me To the wolves I'll come back leaving the light I really believe that and I'm not being pompous and giving a star statement I'm not happy that I feel I wish I'd done it right and that would have stopped me from doing Newer things but this encourages me to give Heartbreak is followed by No, I'm not And I don't hold anyone responsible for it the audience I'd like to kick you about Entritics to you don't like it. You don't like it. I don't force you to like something. I like it And from my likeness It just broke my heart and now that it's broken now. There's no stop Because nothing can worse happen So like that I'm dating so every time I feel I'm doing so if you want to control me then just let me succeed The Lincoln Center did this tribute to Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts talked about Tom Hanks And she said Tom Hanks can walk into any room and make people feel comfortable She said it's a true gift and I think you do that too How how do you do it and how do you maintain this quality through all these years to be really honest, um There's a word in the book called mehman namaz And if you come to my place, I I just need you to feel important because I like I like feeling everyone likes feeling but not in the way that look you're the greatest and Where I have been accepted so much by so many people with such different very tastes And I think so less of me and if you could make me feel nice What how little does it take for me to make everyone else feel and I genuinely go out of my way to do it As a matter of fact when I'm really down and out I will be Um, and I'm not when I say people not friends and people I know I just want to go out on the streets and meet people. I want to touch the people whose lives I think I may have touched Because they genuinely love you so you work at it Now it's become it's just to me also my father was like that My father was always very very kind, courteous, loving, sweet Two stories made everyone laugh and I know I walk with a tag of a status now And I don't like it You know, I don't want the status of my stardom to be my time.  I don't wear my stardom like a tuxedo. I wear it like a t-shirt And that's how it should if you're a real star You don't need to prove it in any other way Then just being kindly gentlemanly normal I mean not and I'm not socially Keanu Reeves Good, so I lose all those people that I meet at night because I haven't messaged them or return email For next morning some really really good people And they hate me for it And I can help it. I don't know how to do this on that Say hi, what's up thinking of you saw your picture on the post look really cool And last night was great fun. It was real fun. You know it But you were done No, no being done. I don't have to now write it down in email and make you feel you're not really going to be a master at great time Um, hope you got some sleep. You must have slept Just because you had a good time doesn't mean you won't sleep. You sleep everyone's sleeping And it's your space and it's your time. It's your place. Why am I? And you know, then I send an email and that person is like, oh I have to send one back. Yeah great fun Gotta do this again sometime I said sure And then how do you end it? My biggest problem is how do you end up with communication on? A tablet or a telephone or a emoji. I have no idea smiley emoji which I can't do It's too un-macho for me.  Hell. So which means a smiley Bottom line is telling the person get lost now. Right like we're done Huh, that's okay. I told you I'm not So I don't know how to do this. I'm like, uh We ever had a problem ending a conversation on via text or email No, but he's in a different generation than I am. I guess, you know, we're the same age. He's a couple years older than me So I really ask people how to end this Because maybe that person also wants to end it doesn't look like me and then suddenly, you know I have these nightmares that isn't going to be that I'll spend the rest of my life talking to this person I don't that's called anxiety sir There's people that there's people that stress over text my wife is on Really the anxiety They think that you're gonna think something into something I said People have such anxiety I don't Doing the book one of the things you'd said to me was um I've always put Charo before the superstar. Charo, which is why the superstar keeps prospering You said I have my heart in the right place, which is what you need as an actor Have you managed to keep your heart in the right place? I think so I think so I mean, I I read so much about me and you know that I may be doing you read about yourself You know, sometimes it's unavoidable, but you don't actively sort of scout information about you. No heavens. No Certain shower con on twitter keeps spend all day doing it. Yeah It might come out But not now as yet But uh, uh, my heart is completely right There is no stardom part of me, which touches me, of course I really enjoy I don't listen to music on an iphone I listen to content Yeah, I enjoy my stardom I travel in a private jet. I have no trappings like when my team gives me a big room I don't even know what to do with it and I don't even have parties in my room I just sit here alone and like I said play Wow, he's dangerous to kids You don't desire I can't help myself Great shirt In my bedroom, I have a cold running in the pool You ever worn your wife's clothes? Yeah, I can't fit Yeah, that was extremely bad Because I'm subjected. You know, that's that's the worst part about uh being on celluloid. It always comes back It's all on you too.  Let's kill it. Why not? And then, you know Just this creative emotional instinct.  Okay.  Unfortunately, like, you know, it's very boring. Some of the hosting I stopped doing people have become a little Touchy about things And earlier, I don't know what it is. I thought with time people will develop more sense of humor from a person who's done it regularly and I'm very Defricating about myself Extremely 80% is about me making fun of me and then maybe a few jokes. But yeah, I would I've I've been born by my children. I've been born by my friends. Don't Like you don't understand the community So sometimes even like when I say good evening No, no, don't even treat people. So yeah, I would myself That's why I'm not being as funny as I used to be You're pretty fun. I know but I could be funny You know this interview you take with uncle or uncle In that interview you said that um As long as they're making movies There's going to be people waiting outside Mandir to see is that something you truly believe or is it sort of?   I say, yeah, we're better suits now But that's true. It's the belief I've had That if I join cinema, I will be the biggest star in the world. I mean, I mean I may become that I may not become I mean never Be as Big as I thought I would be now. I'm talking material. I'm talking in terms of essence of being a star And I wake up with that.  What keeps you going? I mean, have you ever wondered? Why should I find this exciting every morning to get up wear makeup and I don't morning to wear makeup get up Right, right without a break for 25 years Me 12 30 years of my life upon doing it after the and What excites me? is a belief Until they make movies they love Don't I deserve to be good? It's all right And and then they're not there. We will never have Just Maybe it's only because You know, they've changed their places. I just find me I don't think I think Till they make movies people will like me I believe that and not in a Indispensable sort of no, I'm not like that at all But it's a belief of an innocent child And that belief can never belong Like your son right now believes that he'd be a better tricker than without kori and he will When I used to run 100 meters. There was no you saying but I really thought I can beat the world record I can't and I didn't actually the difference There's a difference between belief and faith and faith actually belief Can be questioned has to be proved has to be it can be done in a theorem in mathematics Faith is like faith in god in god Faith is unshaken We haven't seen you and I and we have faith We haven't we don't even perhaps understand our books of religion Faith I have faith in this statement. It's not a belief. I don't know if you live long enough to see this function. It will happen I don't know what you guys might be You'll retire and go away now get a job me I'm here forever Cross breast To enable you to continue doing great things We've got a gift. This is what I need now.  I will be the king of the world But I actually already am so I'm going to put my pictures in the watch of myself. I'm going to be completely nasty He cannot turn it off See Shah Rukh Khan in the next film Cannot turn it off. He cannot turn his sarcasm. I swear And I love it. He had he always has such an interest because once again we've said I think in every single one He has a perspective Maybe two other people have and he has it probably in greater than either of them in terms of like the other cons essentially The other one that I mean, it's probably The only ones that can really relate to what he's talking about is like Salman Khan Raj Nakans In other just the of big B Yeah, big B of these massive stars that have had it for a long time Right and are just beloved beyond comparison and there's nobody here That has that that kind of love no in terms of like obviously there's there's no there are big stars that have been beloved for a long time Like she mentioned Tom Hanks However, they don't show up at his house. No That's nice. That just doesn't happen But yeah, he always has such a unique perspective because a lot of times he'll talk in Two different elements. He'll talk in an actor's element But then he'll also talk as a star. Yeah Which are completely different they are they're completely different things something Over 99.9 of the world will never get to experience Yeah That aspect of life right if stardom and what it entails because it is a different aspect in the thought process than an actor Whole of the world Like it's it's something most actors will never have to think about no and it's he admitted It's what he wanted. I don't know about you Did you ever growing up were your thoughts about I want to be the biggest movie star in the world? No, but I don't know if he was actually fully Obviously everybody growing up. It's like I want to be a I think all actors growing up. They want to be a big star but to say but also it's there I think he's talking about the naïve naïve naïvetay Is that the word naïvetay of it in terms of then that's why he gave the the racing Right, right saying it's like as kids. You don't know the art of it at all.  Why can't I be I think that's what he's talking about more than an actual literal sense Of it. It's more of a I that's how I took it at least it was a lot more of a metaphorical Feeling to get him out of bed in the morning of just because once again, that's talking to him as the star Then the actor because he doesn't talk as an actor. Right. Yeah, he wears he they are Two absolute sides of the same coin for him. Yeah, because they're They're different there, but they're something like and he's the only one that gets experienced this part of life And it's it's it's fascinating because it's Something we'll never experience probably no and you won't get that for For the most part I've never experienced that even for people as A list as a tom hanks tom cruise leo de capriel Cape lancet meryl street They they don't talk about what they do in terms of movie stars or actor for them It's just all about actor. Yeah, they don't have to carry that mantle because there isn't that mantle here for The actors not anymore not not they used to we used to have the star We did we did but even still it's been gone for it's been gone a long long time and even then It was still a very different dynamic. It's a whole other kind of animal probably the like beginning of the 2000s When will smith tom cruise johnny depp. We're all making 20 million dollars a film I think the closest that we've mentioned this before I think the closest america could comprehend About an artist and a star and both hats being equally heavy to wear would be michael jackson Elvis Presley the Beatles that kind of very very rare Or go into the music element taylor swift right taylor swift would be harry stock close to that like in terms of the fan Justin beiber. Yeah gaga. Yeah, I guess salina Gomez right now with all the yeah the drama Right. Um, but when it comes to the actors in america, no It's because it's it's a completely different world.  Yeah, just how monumental that film is. Yeah, um, and and it's changing slowly Um, but but I don't know if it's changing so much for the big stars. No, it'll never change for him. Yeah Anyways, fascinating series very uh fantastic As always let us know what your thoughts are in the comments below and what should be our next chauvel con film Still have a billion to get to we do let us know should be fan