hey guys welcome to my channel please put a like and subscribe if you are new also go over to my other channel moon pie tarot where you can get daily collective reading my readings always start on the 30 minute mark you can come in earlier if you want to wait chat with everyone but they always start the 30 minute mark so just pop in at the 30 minute mark and reading will begin all right let's get into your reading hey Virgo welcome back to another episode of your life all right we're just doing random messages here I want to see what shows up for you love life career see what's going on and what else is playing out for you in November okay okay November all right so look you've got justice in the hermit instantly someone here is a Virgo Libra Cusper September the end of September going into Libra season this may be specifically for you okay there's some type of legal thing here that's going to turn out in your favor that's the main message that's coming out here for you okay so if you have some type of legal dispute or something in the criminal system some legal document could be related to tax issues or family children anything like that dealing with lawyers judges all that stuff you've got justice it's in your favor things are gonna work out that's the first message that's coming through your also and this is not just for the Libra Virgo Cusper Cuspers this is also for everybody but those of you who are on the cusp of Virgo Libra pay attention also you've got the hermit you guys so there is some reflection happening okay you've got some stuff here that it looks like you're gonna have to be thinking about or going inward to kind of like reflect on some deep-seated thinking it's not the dwelling kind of thing but spending some time alone a little bit of isolation you may be having a desire to hide out from a certain person or people or just wanting to kind of spend time on your own or spend time alone not be bothered just kind of go off into hermit mode basically just be on your own think it about something seeking some enlightenment on certain topics or just trying to figure some stuff out I feel so like I just it doesn't feel like for a day feels like pretty much for the month of November I mean some of you it's just basically like getting your fuzzy socks getting your you know your robe on it's getting cold some of you are in areas the snow is starting to kick in the weather is getting chilly getting that hot chocolate you're just bearing down blankets at night or whenever sleeping in a little bit more getting cozy you know popping on the television just snuggling in and it's not necessarily being lonely it's just kind of I don't know hibernating it's a little bit of the hibernation period you know look at this cuz I'm just kind of getting this look at all this snow down here right and it's chilly it's a little kind of cold or rainy so time of the month you know this is a little bit of like just really wanting to be on your own okay what else is coming up for you in November this is like a buffet of messages here Virgo this is I saw the lovers I want to tell you that but I didn't I didn't draw the card out but I did see it oh my wrist is killing me today my left wrist I was going on okay so we're getting some major arcana energy those are the high priestess so look at this wow you're keeping some secrets to yourself as well hmm so definitely this is an all-knowing energy and you're not saying anything either you're keeping quiet in November also okay these two cards pretty much give me a vibe of like zipping it zipping your mouth shut staying on your own Virgo there may be some situations that are coming up for some of you this is and I told you so situation that you're not saying anything you're just kind of nodding your head to yourself something comes up and it's one of those you were right Virgo but you don't rub it in anybody's face you're not saying anything you're kind of like somebody else people places are things turns out you were right about something you find out I feel in November and rather than going up to everybody and then wagging the finger and saying I told you so I told you so you're just kind of keeping to yourself and like mm-hmm told just yeah so that is a very strong message to me that this is that inner wisdom that you're not you're just mm-hmm mm-hmm I know nobody learns Virgos just kind of mm-hmm I wish I wish you could see the expression on my face some day I'll be on the camera but the expression on my face literally is your little stoic to everyone but yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm there must be a lot of drama or something like I feel like kind of like the shit hits the fan so to speak and everybody that there's a fallout and there's an aftermath and you're kind of like getting out of harm's way because you saw this coming you saw this coming from a mile away and you got out of town way before everything came crashing down because you knew this was gonna happen I don't know what this thing is don't get on me might not even happen yet some of you are already aware you like yep yep yep and you get out of harm's way before the issue it's the fan and then it does in November and you're just like mm-hmm mm-hmm okay so just so you know whatever that situation is be it with a particular person or people places or things it's in your favor it works out for you I can tell you that all right you've got also an opportunity an investment opportunity your money coming in in November for sure or you're receiving a gift in November now this isn't like somebody comes up to you and it says you know just so this is like a universal gift this is what I feel it's a universal gift this is one of those things where it's like a blessing you know it could come from a person but it's it's not like for an occasion do you know what I mean so it's not like oh it's your it's not like it's Christmas it's not like it's your birthday it's not like it's um you know for a holiday or you know you you get like an award for something you've done this is this is like a gift like a universal gift and it's got no reason for it you know so it's it's like you're walking through you're going through your like here's an example right I went last week and I cleared out out of storage a bunch of stuff that I had and I just got everything together and my brother was like getting rid of everything right he's taking it all to the garbage or it's just a bunch of old stuff that I had and I didn't need it anymore and I found this vase I told you this in a reading the other day as a matter of fact like few weeks ago and here it is it came true so I had this vase that I must have picked up in like a thrift store like 10 years ago and he used it just to it was cute it was a little Japanese vase you know but it was big enough to hold umbrellas and he's to put umbrellas in it but I saw it I had it for years and I was like I don't want this thing anymore it doesn't match my decor whatever and I gave it to my brother yeah chuck it well he gets it and he goes and he looks it up online to see because he had markings on it not that he's a vase enthusiast but he he's like he knows his stuff so he looked it up online it was worth 450 bucks now 450 bucks to some people as a treasure and to other people it's just cake but he's like oh yeah I'm gonna list it see if you can get $450 for it I don't know we're gonna get it but it's that's like a gift that's like you have something for so so long and you're just like sticking umbrellas in it you have no idea it's worth anything and then you look it up and it's like what sitting on a little bit of a treasure you know and that's what I'm talking about these little gifts okay well you're walking down the street and you find a gold watch obviously must belong to somebody but there's no way you could return it because there's no name there's nothing on it some it might have fell out of a car somewhere like you know what I mean there's just you could list it and see if somebody could find it but it's like one of those things you know so November there's some type of a gift and it's monetary because it's ace of pentacles so it's a monetary gift that you will receive or that opportunity that is going to come to you but in what way I am not exactly sure you will find out when November actually begins to we roll through the month but there is money coming to you or something of value or something of worth now you can you may find it you may find it if you're rummaging through a thrift sale you may find it unexpectedly you might have it in your home it might be passed down to you it might be something that someone gifts to you that you might not even realize but listen don't go crazy looking for it it it's meant to come to you and it will make you will be made aware of it and it's one of those things where if you look for it you won't find it it will just come to you okay so expect to receive it's a it's a decent amount it's a decent amount and it'll it'll be worthy to you for some of you it's a gift of employment okay or a bonus of some sort an unexpected job offer as well so it's a good thing right it's a good thing okay and I don't know if you guys heard speaking in which I'm going to be changing the membership price so if you are a member of my channel not a subscriber membership is where you pay to become a member being a subscriber is free if you are a member of my channel I am going to be lowering the price for membership soon so keep your eyes peeled for that that will I'll be listing when I'll be doing that in the community tab so you will have to become a member again at the reduced price if you would like to become a member of my channel all right you guys so let's go on okay so you have a queen of ones who will be significant to you in the month of November okay she may have a black cat let's take a look okay so to qualify that it's got the three of ones and the death card okay so this queen of ones is going through a big transition huge changes being made in her life let's see let's see here yeah she might be traveling yeah in November there's a bit of there's some travel here so you might be waiting to hear about travel are waiting for her departure or arrival okay masculine or feminine okay so I do feel like there is some type of departure or arrival connected to a queen of ones like I said masculine or feminine fire sign Aries Leo or Sagittarius okay there's some planning involved so you she might be making plans with you you making plans with her in regards to some type of travel in November okay so it this is a matter of like waiting for her arrival or standing at like the platform seeing her off okay yes so there's there's it's significant in that way okay let me see if there's anything else it's a big transition for her big change let's see what else has come now I just want to get another clarifying card for her okay eat of sorts so I can tell you this whatever this changes is going to get her out of some type of restriction that she has been in okay she's she has been here she this fire sign has been in some kind of restrictive situation okay mental restriction and some some type of something that's made it a little bit difficult for her to maneuver and it may have been something that made her mentally feel like she couldn't really do the things that she used to be able to do before but she is actually going to you might have a concern about that about her but she's actually going to be able and I say she because it is the queen but just please keep in mind that it could be masculine as well but that this fire sign is going to be able to transcend that she's going to be able to get moving and take some kind of trip or travel to her fro okay so there's something here about and it has something to do with her restriction she's going to come out of restriction okay so that's a really good sign okay let's take a look here what else is going on in Virgo's life in November Virgo's life what else is going on oh we're not gonna take those okay so you're getting some communication very exciting communication maybe from a child could be or a grandson or a granddaughter or your own kids but there is some exciting communication that will be coming in or you will be sending out about some kind of vacation I'm seeing yes yes yes a little R&R so you might be going somewhere there might be trip planned picking up a lot of travel in November so of course there is in the US Thanksgiving holidays coming up most of my subscribers here most of my viewers are in the US so I'm kind of talking to you I know some of you guys from other countries do have a holiday coming up as well so there might be plans for holidays as well but it does look like a little downtime you may get a message or you may be talking to other people or talking to some other person about spending some time together during a little so when I feel like when we talk about R&R or relaxation this is like a peaceful time so when we have holidays nobody's working right we're just kind of like having fun playing games we're being with family we're being with friends we're doing we're watching sports this page of wands can represent sports you know activities physical activities games and stuff like that during the holidays we're physically more active we're shopping we're cooking we're getting out there and this is during normal times I know there's a lot of stuff going on in the world but let's try to keep things as normal as possible as we can not to ignore what's happening in the world but we want to try to maintain a sense of normalcy so we don't all lose our minds so with the holidays coming especially November there may be some communication from somebody or with somebody in regards to this holiday R&R relaxation trouble does that mean there's going to be time spent with somebody possibly we'll see but I do feel like you will be talking to someone that there may be an offer yes absolutely in regards to having dinner together look I feel like someone's handing you like a plate it's like hey you want to eat with me yeah so when I have dinner together we'll share a plate you want some of my food on my plate so yeah and that page of wands is always like my crush card so I feel like there's a little bit of smitten juice spewing out here a little bit of smitten juice a little bit of crush love going on alright let's see what else is coming up for you Virgo love and life for Virgo okay oh you got some magic wow manifesting Virgo what are you manifesting laying everything out on the table here Virgo yes you've got some well this can be this is Gemini energy for sure okay we have Pisces Virgo Libra you have on the table Aries Sagittarius Leo we have Scorpio on the table so okay tell me what's going on with this magician oh I'm seeing somebody making candles somebody pouring candles or porous candles or makes candles for maybe crafts or sells them I've seen candle making mm-hmm are you doing that or thinking about doing that it's like a little side hustle making candles pouring candles that's that's a sweet little deal yep or thinking about making a little money manifesting a little candle shop job or something okay um there's performant performance somebody maybe getting into some type of performance work as well hold on you guys I have to fix my chair like sliding off my chair a little performance work here with the magician let's say give me a clarifying card for the magician over go what's going on with the magician here I definitely feel like you're you're I see you in front of I don't know if it's like a stage or a bunch of people looks like you're gonna be doing something looks like you're gonna be doing some work not well you could be doing work or you could be selling some stuff making things and selling things that's that's what I pick up this big this is big energy for that so you're manifesting you're making I don't know maybe some of you're like do a little disco dancing little Saturday night fever John on the table here but there's I kind of see behind a table I see you like selling things you've got all your products on the table whether it's like edible products or or you're standing at the you're either you're selling things or you're performing or you're you've got products or you're performing something or you're speaking you're at a podium or some kind of table you've got props or you're just standing at a table and there's other people on the other side you're talking all right you might be selling healing type alternative things as well you might be doing something like that in November and look how I just pulled that how it sits on the ace of pentacles so there could be a new employment opportunity money coming in good job new income definitely showing up here for you you could be selling the brand I was seeing like pouring pouring candle wax that so some pouring energy going on here okay yeah so you definitely have something happening here where it feels it kind of lines up it ties in there I see you like some kind of new job up but maybe you're pouring concrete I don't know you're doing something where you've got products you you've got some sales you're in something but it feels like you're doing it yourself or you're out there selling for another company and making money okay or you are performing in some way and you're kind of like I don't know star salesperson of the of the year you're you know or you're a star maybe you're performing on stage and you're getting paid like there's there's some connection to this and it's it's kind of you could have an association with someone who's in that industry and that gets you a job or there's there's some type of an association with someone you could be a singer maybe you're in music or you are you're getting paid for some kind of music performance artists actors musicians all that kind of stuff so something big you're on theater you're in stage you're doing plays or something in November maybe you're doing like some kind of Christmas show something like that it's huge it's it's huge like there's a good opportunity showing up here all right let's get a couple more messages oh look new love new love start on the horizon beautiful beautiful new love starts oh wow yes strong new love beginning happening here wow coming in fast and furious okay could be with a Leo this could also be a very new beginning in self-love as well not oh I'm so narcissisticly in love with myself this is just like self-love self-care grooming the self taking care of the self this is very beautiful energy lifestyle change as well communicating with someone as well a lot of new love beginnings happening here I love it and love it okay you've got the five of cups healing from a grief and letting go of King of Swords kind of thing you might have had an involvement with the King of Swords Gemini Libra Aquarius kind of rethinking that whole relationship with the King of Swords Pat getting past the grief in the remorse and kind of looking at the thing objectively you know you're kind of past the emotional stage maybe and now you're in a place of like I'm looking looking at it more practically you've got so it looks like maybe healing from a past relationship that you're in a different stage of that now no longer like really down and out emotionally but more kind of like huh look y'all this person has a shovel so it's like all right it's time to bury this shit no longer crying over spilled milk it's time to like just put all them spilled cups and just kind of bury it let me just dig a hole dig everything up and then just put it all together and just start digging another hole and just like bury it all yeah so I feel like burying the pain not not in a sense of like not dealing with it but just like digging it all up and then creating a pile and then just kind of putting and mixing it all together and just getting beaten down with it so healing from a past thing but then you could you got new love coming in or just a new self-love kind of thing and that's good that's really good so it looks like you're getting over in November is gonna be key and very symbolic for getting over a past loss from the past definitely it's a good thing let's see what other love message messages of love you have going forward okay you've got support lean on your inner circle during this time okay leap of faith it's safe to make the move you're considering you've got release like I was just saying radical acceptance and surrender can help you let go very beautiful and you've got retreat time alone or in nature will help you recharge when you saw that first you've got the retreat card so that was great especially if there's an I told you so going in there you've got abundance you've done the work abundance flows to you now Virgo amazing to now detach with love to clearly see the truth play hard find time to laugh goof off and enjoy each other Virgo beautiful I love these messages boundaries firm boundaries are needed now and warning don't dismiss any red flags it says here but I don't really see any red flags here so I don't really know what they're talking about maybe in the month of November you might have some red flags come up red flags might be the I told you so so be careful that you don't kind of go around shaking that finger and just being like I told you so and I told you so and I told you so because then that's not gonna be good just let shit speak for itself right I think that's the strongest message all right let's get some and because this was like such a buffet of random messages I'm not gonna pull the Chinese signs because I don't feel like it's gonna really be specific there like there wasn't any one specific person let's just but we will get a couple of okay we got the letter H someone was born in 1984 September 9th this is significant birth date August 31st okay so the initial each okay we've got someone was born in the month of May okay we have the initial G the initial a and then I saw why somebody might be they want to say gay but I'm gonna use the term homosexual we have September 13th might be somebody's birthday year of birth we have 1967 another initial we have the initial s as in Sam another birthday someone may have born in the month of February so when I call out those other months that could be someone significant to you okay we have the initial J so your name might start with a J and we have someone is 40 years of age let's get some other initials we have a Q we have a and a V and I just heard Gavin the name Gavin okay and then I'm hearing Ava I'm hearing Jack I'm hearing John I'm hearing Tony or Anthony okay I'm hearing Ed or Eddie or Edna okay a to I just heard a to which that's not really a name that I hear often okay see if we have any other other initials okay they're telling me Faye the name Faye I think I've called that out before Frank I'm hearing Tara Tara Tara okay I'm hearing no I didn't hear that stuff or Stephanie you know there are some letters that I okay here we go that's what I was hearing okay Michelle Armel BB Moe Monee Mona we have Joe Joe Jose Bambi Susan they just said there's Jose there okay all right gonna leave those there for now let's get a charm and what do you have okay you have a bicycle you guys so bicycle being significant somebody rides bikes or is a avid bike rider or is out riding a bike listening to this or has lost their bike or you had your bike stolen be careful I'm sorry if that happened to you hope you find it someone's just recently taking up taking up bike riding or is riding a bike is exercised in the gym perhaps two-wheeler I see I don't know what that thing on the back is but yeah something very significant or you connect with someone who's a bike rider maybe you're a motorcycle enthusiast you gonna switch start riding motorcycles or maybe you got a DUI can't drive your car anymore now you're riding the bike could be something so when I bring up these charms that bring them up if you resonate to with the charm this also means that the reading will be specific for you or to you right so gonna leave that right there maybe there's a bike marathon of some sort or you're you know in some kind of contest or maybe you make bikes okay so I'm gonna leave that there and yeah I will see you back here tomorrow with your weekend reading have a fantastic evening and I'll see you back here later


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d access to who had Use of the data And you know the typical way for that happens is that everybody uses the data has to sign the agreement And then washing the electric has put me off until the end of the month Because of their negotiating on and their rate agreement And then the other one I had an offer that I'd like to you know vantage point Which is a company that's built a number of community fiber at home They've offered to present, you know their experience working with those communities And I'd like to go ahead and see if we can get that scheduled So, um, if I could just kind of go out of order here, um, I've probably received 25 of those okay from all across the country Because it'd be great to learn so so we will I think we will get there eventually I think Inviting too many presentations of that sort I mean like I said, I have I have Probably two dozen Organizations, especially after after the things were publicized and after the vote passed. It was there was a flood I was getting calls every day So I'll be getting in touch with folks on the business development committee so that we can Tally up some some meetings coming up And also just to follow up on what the both of you had said about folks willing to give presentations Doesn't always have to be to the full board. It's right If we can get a we can get a group of people that are willing to do it Let's roll through it and gather that information. We don't have to all get it at the same time That's that's a great point. Thank you for that No additions Stephen. Yeah, I think the I know who vantage point is as well and I think that we are Foundering from lack of It informed step by step, how do you go about getting from here to there and what are your options and what's the technology choices So it's the sooner the better that we we embrace learning what these networks are made of The more faster we'll start to make progress Okay Laura Sabilia who's in the legislature is convening with her Southern economic development organization something like that a Broadband conference in southern Vermont. She's invited me and some others to present to it Northeast kingdom collaborative got wind of it and they want to have a conference a similar conference So that's the proliferation you're talking about I'm going to go there speaking as kingdom fiber, but I did mention them on the CD fiber board And if they wanted me to talk about that I could but that now I realized I shouldn't speak for Our organization without authorization. So my question for y'all is Should I not meant should I say well? I really can't speak for the board Or should I speak in general terms about what we're doing? When is the conference? I forget I think it'd be better for the board to have somebody Else Representing the board and king the fiber representing the fiber. I think it'll be confusing to them to have To sort through the potential conflict And it's probably true So if you want to tell laura or whoever's organizing it send me or rebecca or somebody a message and we can figure it out from there Okay Do you want to have the last word? No


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All right. Hello everybody and welcome. Thanks so much for taking the time at this moment in history to participate in this conversation about the open ed conference. We're really pleased to have such a great group here. And also really excited that many community members took the time to report in before the call and may do so after the call through Menti to share their thoughts. I'm Nicole Allen, director of open education for Spark, member of the open ed conference steering committee on the call. We have most of the steering committee members who are joining us, who will be contributing throughout the conversation. We also have more than 50 attendees. Please feel free to contribute in the chat and we'll be using a tool called Menti throughout the conversation to gather audience input. So to run through a quick agenda, the purpose of this call is just the first opportunity for those of us that have been working to organize the open ed conference for 2020 and beyond to give an update on how things are going and open a conversation about some of the important next steps. So we'll start out with an exercise in Menti led by a steering committee member in TAN and then we'll transition into some updates focused on bringing us up to speed on the process so far, where we're at on dates and venue and responding to COVID. And then some next steps in the planning process and community engagement. And then we'll take a few questions and have steering committee members weigh in and then we'll go back into Menti and have a few questions for discussion of gathering input on different perspectives on open education at large and then specifically for the conference. So I'm going to turn it now to Amy to tell us a little bit about Menti meter and how to get logged in. Hello everybody, I'm Amy Tann and I'm from Houston Community College.  This is a wonderful opportunity for us to understand your thoughts and hear what you have to share. We're collecting the information so that people who logged in early, their information will be combined with the live responses that we received during the webinar or this conference call. And then we will keep it open for a couple of days and then we're going to share out all that information in a couple of weeks. So we're really pleased to use this platform to hear what you have to share with us. We really recommend that you use two separate devices so that you can view the presentation on one device and have Menti open on the other. I prefer to use my phone for Menti. You can go to Menti.com and then you will enter the code 677317 and that information is on the screen for you. You may be asked to enable cookies. If that is an issue, please open the chat. Lee Miller is going to give you information on that in the chat. I want to remind everybody that as we're moving along there's going to be a ask a question that you can click on at any point. You'll be able to see the questions. You can like the questions to promote them up to the top. And we're going to be responding to those questions throughout the presentation. And so I think if you're already into Menti and enter that code, then you should be able to join and I think we'll move on to our first question. So we just want to get an idea of who's joining us today.  And we're going to see the results here popping up as a word cloud. Wow, look at that. Look at all the representation we have. Maybe we can get all 50 states on there and in multiple provinces and countries. I see Georgia and Texas, California. Wonderful. Well, we welcome all of you to this conversation. We'll move on to the next question. So just to help you get adjusted to Menti.com, we want to be sensitive to the gravity of the situation that we're experiencing, but we also want those of you who feel you can to engage in a lighthearted way and respond to this question and let us know which of these images best reflects your stay at home experience right now. Alrighty, it looks like people are staying busy. Lots of people working on the computer and that cat on the hamster wheel is appealing to many of us. Wonderful. Okay, it looks like you guys have the hang of Menti. We'll move along to our next question. So just to get an idea of who's joining us today, if you could pick up to three of these options, how would you describe your role? How do you see yourself in the open community? So go ahead and pick three of those. Give everybody a chance to make your selections and we can see, look at that beautiful rainbow. We have lots of librarians joining us and many of us, probably most of us, see ourselves as advocates. Excellent. Well, we welcome you all to the conversation. We'll move on to our next question. So just to have an idea of how many times you have attended the open ed conference. So if you can just let us know. Looks like we are kind of in the middle there. We have lots of people who've never attended and we welcome your voices to the conversation. Excellent. Hey, we'll move on to the next question. Actually, here's where I'm going to turn it back over to Nicole to get us started on the information part. Wonderful. Thanks so much, Amy. And I just to reiterate what Amy said earlier, you should have on your mentee device a link where you can ask questions or add questions if you'd like to throughout this conversation. All right. So we're going to move into a quick update on sort of where things stand, where things started and where things stand. And it's really wonderful that there's such a range of participants in this conversation, people who've never been to the open ed conference and want to help shape the future of what carries on and those who've been attending for more than a decade. So I want to just provide a brief overview of what happened over the past, I guess four months since five months since the open ed 19, just for those who hadn't been following that conversation. So the the open education conference is an annual conference that happens typically in North America every year. For 16 years, the conference was organized by Dr. David Wiley, whose name may be familiar to many of you. And after last years or during last year's conference, David made an announcement that open ed 19 was going to be the final annual open education conference he would organize. And this left space for the community to have an opportunity to decide what we wanted our annual gathering to look like. And if we wanted an annual gathering and, you know, ask questions like, you know, what are we as a community or multiple communities or networks? And the conversations that that grew out of that were important to thinking about the future of not only the the conference, but also open education at large. But one theme did emerge during the conference, which is a number of different conversations happened there about sort of what comes next. And one of those conversations yield a form that people could fill out and just share thoughts about the future of open ed. And the responses while they included a range of perspectives, there was a general consensus that having a generally North American based annual conference on open education was still important and valuable to many of the people who were part of the group attending this conference. So following that conversations continued, and a group of community members got together and produced an open letter and call for participation that we pushed out to the community and invited those who are interested in being part of a planning process for open ed or making sure that it happens to step forward. And I know I see just from looking at the list of attendees that, you know, many of you participated in this process and and and stepped forward to help out, which is fantastic. And it created an opportunity for those who were interested in driving things forward to connect and talk about next steps. And the collaboration that came together out of this process was between these four organizations. My organization spark open stacks, the Colorado Department of Higher Education and their OER Council, and the University of System of Maryland's Kerwin Center, which runs the Maryland open source textbook project. And together, we recognize that there was an opportunity for with our our powers combined to be able to support some next steps for the open ed conference. And we put together a proposal to the community for what what we would commit to do. And it is a commitment for a two year process to organize open ed 2020 and 2021, working with the community and creating space for the important conversations that need to happen about what needs to happen after 2021. And the community has an opportunity to really define what we want this convening to be, how it's governed, how it's organized, how decisions are made. And this is the beginning of that process. So the first step that we took coming out of that proposal after sending it out and consulting it with the community. And you know, again, I see many of you on in this conversation supported that that idea and helped helped us move forward. We our first step was to form a steering committee. And most of the steering committee is on the call today. The the two who are not is a Kinshah Batnagar, who's the student body president at the University of Alberta, and Daniel Hyatt, who's based at an institution in Pakistan, where it is very late are the members of the steering committee are here and are going to be joining the conversation as we move forward. So we put out an open call for nominations and went through a stage process to put together this group of amazing individuals from a much broader pool of amazing individuals and really focused in on making sure that there were lots of different perspectives represented from different types of institutions and demographics and geographic representation. And you know, I really want to just stress that that all of these people are have committed to spend at least four to eight hours a month for for the next year, even in light of COVID, to support this process. And they just thank you to all of you guys for being amazing. And, you know, the conversations that we've had so far are wonderful. And I'm really excited to work with you and everybody else who's part of this process going forward. All right. So I'm going to stop there and hand it over to Daniel Williamson from OpenStacks, who's going to share with us an update on the the dates and venue for the conference in light of COVID. All right. Thanks so much, Nicole. Yeah. And thank you to everybody who's on the call. I'm really excited about the opportunity that we have for OpenEd and reimagining it. And so I'm going to provide a quick update on our venue. So in the time before coronavirus, OpenEd was conceived as being an important in-person event. And so with all this planning, of course, we were able to secure a venue in Denver at the Hyatt Regency Denver at Colorado Convention Center for the week of November 9th. So, of course, things have progressed a lot since then. And shortly after executing the contract, our situation has changed fairly drastically, as I'm sure you all can attest. So we recognize that, you know, COVID-19 and the resulting economic downturn has placed an enormous fiscal pressure on colleges, universities, and schools around the country. And that this might make it difficult for many in our community to secure the travel funds that are necessary to travel if we are even permitted to travel come November.  We want to be as flexible as possible. And we want to determine, you know, what flexibility our contract will allow us with the Hyatt, because we recognize that this is these are really uncertain times. And we might not have the ability to meet in person come November. And so we're going to be sending out a survey to all of the previous OpenEd attendees and other community members asking about the likelihood that they would be able to attend in person, you know, given their institution's current situation. This information is going to help us make decisions about how to proceed in terms of either canceling the venue or maintaining the venue and adjusting the size and reducing the space that we're holding.  And so as this is rapidly kind of advancing, as soon as we have more information about the venue, about the opportunities, I'll share that with you all, as well as the broader community to make sure we're really, you know, aligned and informed about what's going on. Additionally, we're immediately beginning planning to support the conference through an online experience. So regardless of which route we go, whether it's in person online or some sort of hybrid, I think this is going to be an amazing event. We have plenty of time to figure it all out. And I personally remain very optimistic that we will be able to host some amazing hybrid in person online event. However, you know, being from Houston and very familiar with hurricanes, I recognize that the cone of uncertainty for what the fall holds in store for us is still very, very wide. So nonetheless, you know, this is a time in history where more than ever our society needs an open, robust and more equitable education system. And the open ed community is uniquely positioned to usher in the solutions to the problems that we are facing today. So I'm sure regardless of whether we are meeting in person in November or online in November or some mix, we'll have a lot to share and a lot to learn in November. So I'm now going to turn it over to Spencer Ellis from the Colorado Department of Higher Education, who's acting as our local host for 2020 to talk a little bit more about Denver in the venue. Thanks, Daniel. Yes, I love the terminology that you used, ushering in solutions. And I do think that that's the role that open education can and will play as we move higher education and all forms of education forward with our new reality. So we in Colorado are super excited to help in any fashion. And on behalf of the state of Colorado, the Colorado Department of Higher Education and our OER council, which is our OER champions here in the state that kind of dictate the work that we do from a statewide perspective, we're ready to support in any way, no matter the delivery method that is chosen. And we trust this community and steering community to make the appropriate decision that's in the best interest of all those participating. So really inspired to see how many people have turned out for this particular phone call and hoping people will remain engaged as we continue moving forward for planning in 2020, 2021 and beyond. And with that, I would like to turn it over to MJ Bishop from the University of Maryland system. Hi, everybody. Thanks for having me. Yeah, this is MJ Bishop with the University system of Maryland. We are excited about 2021, figuring this will be post COVID, hopefully knocking wood. Obviously, we haven't been able to do what we had been hoping to do right now in terms of visiting venues and starting to make some decisions about where the 2021 conference will be specifically. But the idea is for us to be in the Washington DC area, and to be at the ready after the elections to have great conversations in the DC area with policymakers and others about the great work that you all are doing in the OER space. So stay tuned. Plans will be forthcoming. But unfortunately, we're a little bit further behind than we had hoped to be, obviously, with that planning at this point. Thanks, MJ. Daniel and Spencer. It's been awesome working with all of you. And, you know, we certainly didn't expect this when we set out. But, you know, Daniel's comments also really resonated with me about, you know, making this really the best event that it can be and thinking beyond what it's ever been before. So, all right. So moving on, now that we've covered the how we got there and where we're at on sort of how we're holding the conference, I want to move on to discussing the next steps in the planning process and engaging more community members in the broader process. So I wanted to turn it over here to Ethan Sennach and Lee Miller, who are on the steering committee to share a little bit more about what's in store there. All right. Thanks, Nicole. This is Lee Miller with Barton Community College. And we want to note that we recognize the need for community involvement, as well as the amount of work needing to be completed for this conference and the future of OpenEd as a whole. So the steering committee has created groups to open community participation and will be sending out an invitation for community membership or members to volunteer to serve on one of these groups. We will be asking for applications so that volunteers and their skills and talents align with the needs of the groups. These groups support various aspects of organizing the conference and the future of OpenEd. All groups will comprise of a combination of the steering committee and select the community members. Our aim is to establish a diverse community voice across all groups, as well as be able to execute the deliverables that each group will need to be able to accomplish. So I'm going to pass it on to Ethan so that he can kind of go through that list and some brief description of what those groups are. Awesome. Thank you, Lee. Hi, everyone. My name is Ethan. I work with ISCME, which is the Institute for the Study of Knowledge Management and Education. You may know us better by OER Commons, which is the big platform that we run. So as we mentioned, these are... I'm going to just really briefly run through the basic groups that we see helping organize and plan this conference. We'll be following up with folks providing an opportunity to share your interests, to participate in each of these with more information as well. So don't feel like you need to rent it all down as I go. The first group that we see is the program group. This one is relatively self-explanatory in its nature. We imagine it will be the largest group, but it'll be responsible for the construction and execution of the program. So we're coordinating a review of proposals and establishing the tracks, all of that stuff. The online conference group. So as Daniel and Nicole both mentioned, we are planning for the contingency that this conference may be fully online, but regardless of whether or not there's an in-person event, we want to offer a robust online participation option. So this group would be responsible for helping plan the online components of OpenEd 2020. The third group is the future of OpenEd. So as we mentioned, this group sees ourselves as stewarding the conference for a couple of years while helping build structures that allow the community to own it more fully in the future. So the future of OpenEd group will focus on research, design, structuring OpenEd in the longer term. The fourth group is a group focusing on diversity, equity, and inclusion. This is something that we see as intrinsic and essential to the conference and to our work more broadly. So we believe it's worthwhile to have a committee or a group working with the other conference planning groups and integrating this more fully into the conference. The fifth group is our communications group. This one also relatively self-explanatory, but working on things around the website, managing community outreach, keeping up on track with timeline, that sort of thing. We also have a conference policy group. So we care deeply about having an effective code of conduct, establishing a policy that creates a safe environment, and a space where people can come with their full selves to share their thoughts and what they're working on. So a group to work on the various policies and rules for the conference. And then the last two groups are just a local hosting group. This will be primarily folks in the location and logistic-oriented folks for the venue, managing location and travel information, setting up social events, and managing on-site volunteers. And then finally, obviously reach a group of folks to support all of these other committees. The volunteers are not a group of their own, but they'd be helping review proposals for the conference, managing things on-site, and helping sort of interspersed throughout all of the different needs. So those of the seven groups will be sharing these out again with everybody in the near future, with an opportunity to kind of share your interest and express where you'd like to participate. And I'm going to throw it back over to Lee to just wrap us up on that. Awesome. Wonderful. Thank you, Ethan. So yeah, look for more information on each of those groups when the invitation comes out. You can see that there. The steering committee will be sending out an invitation for community members to sign up for planning groups. A process for group selection will be developed if there are more sign-ups than there are available spots. And we will also keep in mind what voices we might be missing or need to hear from. So our hope is to send the invitation out next week and we'll have groups hopefully start in meetings in May. And I will send it back over to Nicole. Fantastic. Thank you, Lee and Ethan. All right. So we're going to be taking, just taking a pause for questions in a bit. If you can use Mentimeter to ask questions or just stick them in the chat, please feel free. But just wanted to cover a few quick things first. So just want to acknowledge that, you know, yes, we will be setting up a website and social media presence and do more to sort of promote what's happening. I think we've approached this very, very carefully. Just sort of recognizing that we are still ramping up the community engagement and participation in the process and didn't want to get too far ahead. We really prioritized getting the steering committee up and running and, you know, these conversations, which is really the most important part. And we'll be working on more of the communications piece first soon, as you know, with the communication group that's being formed. So also just want to note that we'll be scheduling these meetings regularly going forward. This isn't the only one. And we really will be prioritizing these conversations about the future of Open Ed, you know, especially at a time of uncertainty, focusing in on the things that, you know, you definitely can control and want to do can be really helpful. And just want to note that that's definitely going to be a priority going forward. All right, so I see a few questions popping in. And I am going to see if I can show all of the questions so that everybody can see them. Am I able to pop this out? I don't think I am. But all right, so before we start in on questions, I just wanted to actually take a pause while people are people are asking questions to see if any other steering committee members who haven't said something yet wanted to jump in and reflect on anything that we've discussed so far or share any sentiments. This is Daniel. I know I've already spoken. I hope that's okay. I failed to specify that that was okay. But please feel free. So one thing that I think is really important is that to emphasize that this is twofold the work that we're working on here. One part of it is just hosting the event for the next two years. But I think perhaps the more important part of this work is really figuring out what open ed as a conference and potentially as a community looks like in terms of self-governance. And so I think a lot of the work that we should be thinking about and thinking about how we participate is in that second bucket. Of course, there's a lot of tactical work that's necessary to get the conference off the ground for the next two years. But I think really the big lift is going to be figuring out what the future looks like. So looking at the question so far, it does seem like the top question is whether there is a plan for the conference to go virtual and offer some sessions virtually. And I think we've already answered that in terms of making sure that we do have that contingency plan and forming the online conference group that's going to look into what a hybrid or online conference looks like. So here's the next question. Do we plan to follow the scheduling formats of previous open ed conference or do we anticipate changes? And if so, what changes? Does anyone want to jump in on that? This is Ethan. I'm speaking solely for myself here and not members of the steering committee. But my immediate answer is I have no idea yet. I know that there were sort of a variety of pros and cons with the way proposals were reviewed in previous iterations of open ed. So I think this is something that we honestly would love to hear more from the community about. There are a variety of combinations or ways. It could be structured. We haven't dove deeply into those yet. I'm sure that's something that the program committee will be thinking about and weigh. But we would love to have input from the community on that. This is Amy and I'm glad you mentioned that, Ethan. I would encourage everyone to, if you have an interest, to please join that program committee and give us your preferences and your ideas. There are a couple of other program related questions in here. One about indicating whether proposals are commercial in the applications or in the proposal review process. That's definitely something for the program group to consider. A great idea to save for later in the session to add to the list. In terms of the financial structure of an online conference, that's a really excellent question. It's something that we have thought about, but don't have a budget for. I think that's going to be the first step in the conversation. I think, where are we at in time? Oh, no. That wasn't supposed to happen. With where we're at on time, I think we're going to move forward into the rest of the Mentimeter conversation, because I think a lot of the things that are showing up in questions are actually good things to talk about and add into some of the questions that we have coming up. But I want to reiterate that if you have questions, please put them in here. We are more than happy to provide responses to them. All right. Amy, I am going to turn it back to you for the next question. We're going to get back going with Menti.com. There's the code. If you need the code, I think everybody is using the Menti quite effectively. It's really wonderful for us. Just to get us back into the mode, what kind of conference go are you? Looks like we've already got some responses there. The top response is work. It looks like work, work, work, and also mind blown. I see a couple of hearty animals there. Wonderful. We can move to the next question. I'm going to turn it over to Tiffany Reardon. Hi, everyone. I am Tiffany Reardon from Affordable Learning, Georgia. You guys have already got a glimpse of this question before I start talking. If open education is a means to an end, what end is most important to you? I guess what's kind of like an end goal of open education for you? Seeing some student success, equity, engagement, access, pedagogy. I just want to jump in and remind everybody that we're going to share this data out again at a later date, so we will make it available for everyone to see all of the responses. Seems like a pretty common theme here is accessibility, but I think we all have our own thoughts as far as that means to an end. Let's move forward. Tell us what you would like to see the open education community do. This is beyond just the conference. What do you want to see the community doing or focusing on, or maybe not doing any more, or things that we're already doing, but we should continue, that kind of thing. So we've got some pedagogy in here, which is good, because if that's an end goal, we should probably work towards it. Collaboration, definitely openness. There's a lot of collaboration here. Research. Cool. So we've got some pretty good ideas of what we want this community to be doing. So let's keep moving. Okay. So what about an annual open education gathering is important to you? So we're thinking about what's the importance of having an annual conference or an annual event for our community. So we've got some connection, networking, sharing ideas, a lot about connection and networking. So let's keep going. So if you had to pick three words or phrases, what would you choose to see reflected in the open ed conference values? These ones are so fun. So there's a lot of inclusion here. Definitely, because that's the biggest word. See in diversity, equity, open-minded, collaboration, some really good points here. Some of these smaller words are pretty interesting too. Like research, qualitative and quantitative, flexible. Got some good points here. Okay. Let's keep going. Okay. So given the values that you would like to see in the open ed conference, what topics would you like to see reflected in the program? Community-based OER creation, promotion and tenure. That is definitely something that I hear a lot about.  Open education week activities. That would be cool to feature. Tiffany, I'm also seeing sustainability pop up in several of the comments. Yeah, definitely. Diversity and equity too. And open in light of COVID. I'm sorry to say that again. How open can advanced diversity and equity in light of open? I saw that before it slid up and I think that's really, really important thinking about the crisis that we're currently facing and how openness can be a strategy for addressing that. But also making sure that through open practices we're not inadvertently replicating some of the legacy structures that are inequitable. Yeah. I also saw leadership just disappear and that's a good one too. Policy. Some good fails. Oh, that's a good topic. I would go to a presentation on OER fails. Okay. So let's go ahead and keep moving. Okay. So in light of the COVID-19 and how it's affecting the world, how is your institution or organization planning ahead for the fall? Do you expect to be able to attend events? Do you have, I don't know, specific rules or policies or like new guidelines that you're following? You've seen a lot of unknown. No in-person travel, decreased travel funds. Definitely a lot of unknown. We're seeing a lot of need for online options, virtual conference options. Okay. This is really helpful. A lot of unknown but assuming or guessing and that's probably probably a good idea to kind of try to project forward on what to expect. Okay. So let's keep going but this is really helpful. And Tiffany, this is our last mentee question. Yes. So with this last opportunity to kind of add, aside from asking questions, which you can do all the way through the end, with this last opportunity to give us your thoughts, what other ideas or feedback would you like to share for the open ed conference? Click show results. Okay. So we want to definitely see virtual attendance. Criticism should be encouraged and not avoided. Unstructured, un-conference was neat. I wasn't there for that but that's kind of a cool idea. This is Jasmine Roberts, faculty at Ohio State and I really like the point about how we can make sure that we're not preaching to the choir. That's not exactly what that person mentioned but I think that is something that we should consider in the open ed community. How are we just not hearing some of the same voices and how do we get folks in who are perhaps not as familiar with open ed or you know have never heard of open ed, how do we get those voices into our community as well? So I think that was an excellent point made. Yeah, definitely. Bringing in the new voices. I just want to remind everybody that when this is over we're going to reset the settings so that you can go back in to Menti and add more comments or reflections or things you'd like to share especially for the open ed questions. Yeah and I think we're going to leave this slide open for a little while and just take a moment to open it up to members of the steering committee based on what you've seen in the conversation so far reflecting on any of these ideas or trends or values and what you're hoping to see come out of the conference. And thank you Jasmine for what you shared. This is Ethan. I was just going to turn the back around really quickly and say I'm really appreciative of all the folks who are sharing stuff through Menti. I was looking kind of at the numbers of submissions on even these open-ended questions and I'm seeing like 40 to 50 to 60 different people adding in comments and everything and I think that speaks to you know how passionately this community cares about building community and I'm really excited to continue to foster that in the years ahead and I just wanted to sort of recognize and say I'm grateful for all the folks who are contributing thoughts and stuff right now. This is Emily Reagan from MSU Denver and I'm seeing interest in maker sessions or times for people to get together and do some creation during the conference which sounds exciting. This is Lee Miller. With all the comments and to kind of bounce off what Ethan said I just really encourage everybody to really consider when the invitation for those groups come out to really look and see what is going to kind of spark your interest and you know if you have the time to put your name out there so that you can continue to voice and provide a voice for those interests that you have and share your skills and talents for these groups. And also to follow up with what Lee has said if you have anyone in your institution that would be you know an excellent addition to the community please encourage them to participate in the program or in any of the groups that you know we are asking you to sign up so and I also saw K to 12 and really that is one thing that we would like to expand on so this is not just higher ed but also includes our colleagues from K to 12 so that really is a good feedback from you all. This is Jasmine Roberts again and I saw the point about less or fewer keynotes and I think that is a really interesting point added into this conversation how you know I have had conversations with people one-on-one and how sometimes keynotes can kind of contribute to this rock star if you will thing that sometimes goes on in our community that we hear again going back to the point that I was voicing earlier we hear from the same people in the same voices and how can we make this this conversation a little less top down you know and more equitable and more horizontal if you will you know so I actually really like that idea about fewer keynotes. Yeah Jasmine I it's something that I've been thinking about a lot too and I'm really interested to explore that thanks for raising it. So other other anybody who hasn't spoken yet want to jump in and share any thoughts and I guess please continue to add your your feedback and thoughts into here you know this this whole process has been both extremely challenging but also incredibly liberating because of the fact that there is so much opportunity here we do have the opportunity to really reinvent this conference and or whatever it becomes based on what the community decides it was you know it was it opened at 19 I think a lot of us felt or I heard a lot of people reflecting similar perspectives about just not knowing how to get from point A to point B or point Z or whatever that the end would be but it's exciting to have this incredible group of people who are on the line right now willing to contribute ideas and time and thought into what the conference can become and we just really want to underscore how much it is important for the community to share feedback and we truly do want to hear from you so we'd love your feedback on how this call went whether this technology is working I know that there's some you know some of the the timing was maybe a bit challenging but is this a good way to for you to submit feedback and feel like you're participating and and able to shape the conference or are there other ideas that you have for how we might be able to to do that together so uh we can go ahead and move to the last slide which just has a set of links to the documents that we shared in the uh in the slides earlier just so everybody has them uh we really want to invite everybody to participate in the process on the community discussion list the link is there that's where we'll be sending calendar invitations and information about next steps you know we'll also be making announcements and sharing the website once things like that are up and running as well if if you're not able to devote time to thinking more deeply about a planning process right now which we certainly understand and we really just hope that what ends up happening in November is going to be something that brings us all together and provides an opportunity to build the the the kind of connections between people that that drive the open ed community and those of you who know me I've been working in the space since I was an undergraduate student uh more than a decade and a half ago and I truly believe that it is the connections between people that make open make the open education movement what it is and uh we have a great chance here to work together to do that and I'm excited about it and I know other people on the phone are excited about it so um thanks all just for taking time at this important uh moment where where people are grappling with lots of different challenges to join this this call and I think we can leave it leave it there I'm just going to pause it for a second uh if if anybody thinks I've forgotten anything before we wrap up the call or anybody would like to share a final note in a call um do you want to make answer some of the questions oh are there are there more let's see so I think we've addressed so the question about indicating a first and second choice for which committee you'd like to be on um we'll take that back as a suggestion I think it's a a good idea and we'll work out some way to indicate preferences and the plan is to send the the participation call out um hopefully next next week but certainly in the coming weeks and that will go out to the community listserv so if you're not subscribed the link was on the page that I'm about to flip to now so I think that was all of the questions that we we had um so uh I think we're going to leave it there and uh all of this information is going to be posted in the notes document we'll post the slides the recording and the mentee uh results for those who'd like to to dig a little bit deeper into those so uh just in closing I want to thank everybody for coming and we're really committed to making sure that that open ed happens and is a valuable and enriching experience uh and look forward to working with all of you to help shape that and if somebody can put the link to the notes in the chat that would be fantastic


I think we're going to start with this panel discussion here. I have a chair as well, but I'm not going to use it. It wasn't like six people, five chairs. That would have been fun. But what we're going to do here, we have about 25 minutes or so to discuss IoT profitability. Before we get into some of the questions, I can lead off with a question that I'm really much appreciating might be questions from the audience as well as we get into this. But before we do all that, I'd like to have each one of our speakers introduce themselves. A couple of minutes each. We have Chris Dugster from Samsung. Ludovic Colbert from Sony. Jon Soms to be from Ericsson. Molly Preston, AT&T. And Dan Berry and Jim Hunter with Greenway. Also representing Leave So Alliance. OK, so quite a big panel. Let's see what everybody's background and quick bio is all about, and then we'll get into the question. All right, my name is Chris Turcher. I head up the IoT. Do you have a microphone for me, please? Lou? OK. Is this good? Can you hear us? OK. My name's Chris Turcher. I manage the innovation lab for Samsung around IoT in the San Jose area. We're really a shop that is trying to create new products and new platforms, really, that end users love. And we're about product design. We're about technology, architecture, and really simplicity at the end of the day. Our role is to create these new products, build them up, and bring them to Samsung headquarters where they will be productized. So we spend a lot of time on IoT and trying to cut through kind of all the hype and noise and try to make products that people will pay money for at the end of the day. So I'm happy to be on the panel. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I am Ludovic from Sony. So I'm based also in the neighbor of Samsung in the south area. I used to work in the headquarters in Tokyo and before that in London and New York. So I'm part of the growth and venturing team. So we look at startups for strategic partnership, investment, acquisitions, and also I work on each of the properties, so patent licensing and how to develop our technology differentiation. And people don't associate Sony with IoT so much because of our consumer devices. We have a lot of activities which are much more tightly connected with some of the IoT verticals, like in Japan, banking, and insurance business, solutions business for venues and stadiums and retail, of course, media, music and video, and many others. So on the model, it's really too broadly with my team at how we can inject innovations and infrastructure, and of course IoT, the connectivity, but the software and applications is a key element which I think can be valued to go Sony and all. Good news. Good morning, everyone. Excuse me. My name is John Sonstvy with Ericsson, senior director of innovation and business development. Lovely to be here. And despite my Scandinavian surname, I'm actually US based in Sweden. Our team is an interesting team within Ericsson. We focus on really disruptive innovation from business model standpoint with our large customers like AT&T's of the world, and then in lots of different segments in the IoT domain with transportation and connected cars, smart grid and utilities and digital. Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for attending. My name is Mallie Preston with AT&T. AT&T's formed a new group called the Internet of Things Solutions Group recently. We combine the legacy of the M2M Center of Excellence and our emerging device organization, which was consumer focus recently, that formed a supergroup to be focused on IoT and providing both solutions to the commercial marketplace and the consumer in a holistic fashion. And our group's purpose really now these days is to cut through the hype, as we've heard before, and really deliver a solution that is integrated and easy for a customer to hit the body on the commercial enterprise side. Good morning. My name is Jim Hunter. I'm representing two entities today. The first is the Ipso Alliance. Ipso stands for the IP for smart objects. And really our goal is to ensure that as many products as possible recognize the value of being directly on IP and leveraging all of the standards that are out there through IETF, through W3C, through IEEE to make it simple as an on-ramp to IoT straight from the IP world. Secondly, I represent Greenway Systems, where I'm Chief Scientist. Greenway is an ingredient brand company. We build software and services that enable companies like Verizon, who just launched a product of ours jointly this last week, as well as we have products that are empowering, products today that are on store shelves at Home Depot and Lowe's. Finally, just a little bit about me. I've got 22 years in a space called connected home, smart home, home animation, selling products, building products, building startups in the space. So this is really exciting for me. And I'm really glad to be here on the panel this morning. All right. Thank you very much. So I'll just gather and ask, is there a question already, a burning question in the audience that isn't? Of course, I've got one ready. Nobody? Oh, here we go. I'm always pleased to not have to ask the first question. So do we have a microphone? OK, thank you for waiting for the microphone. Thank you. So there's been a lot of discussion about connected devices. There's been a lot of discussion about ecosystems. But it appears to me that everybody is building their own ecosystem. Is there any discussion at all about some way that all of these companies come together in a common ecosystem that provides a greater benefit? Would you like to start that? And then? Certainly. So you actually asked a fantastic question from my point, which is, from a standards position, standards help to make, for example, the World Wide Web something very real, move out of BBSes into something that was interactive, so millions of companies could participate. So the standards work that's going on, both from the IEEE, from the ITF, from what Ipsil is doing, as well as standards going on within service provider companies. For example, the Broadband Forum is working on something called CSDA. It's basically, it stands for control signaling and device abstraction. And it's a way to actually manage the assets that are actually behind the CPE equivalent, behind the edge in the home. So I think standards are a great step towards getting to where there's a common language, that all these devices, a common bus, all these things can communicate on. It's your question from an AT&T perspective. We founded the Industrial Internet Consortium with about 70 other companies, IBM, GE, are on it, and it's really to develop a standards-based approach. You know, it was talked about yesterday, if you were in the room with George Telecom, was that there was not enough adoption of this within the commercial enterprise space, mainly because it's just the complexities are difficult, as complexities are really born out of the lack of standards. So from a carrier perspective, when we go build a solution for a large commercial customer and there's no standards, and then we want to go kind of do it to a similar thing, a similar vertical industry, we kind of have to reinvent the wheel and the customer gets to kind of dictate some of these things. It's gonna be a lot easier for us to duplicate and scale a business to these billions of connections that we're all talking about if we apply that standard. So that's, we're also working on other forums within the vertical industries, right? Heavy Quip and has their own vertical engine standards of reading the data off of that. And then allowing each manufacturer to also adopt that. So we're leading the forefront of those things to try to help along, along with the ecosystem partners that we work with. Yeah, I think it's an excellent question. I'll echo what you both say about standards. And I think that's very important. And what I think this is important is, I think really this is where the business value lies and the real opportunity is not just in specific verticals, but really cross ecosystem coming up with new models there that some of which we can think of today and I'm sure many, many of which will be thought of in the future. So we know we'll do that with standards, securely exposing and managing APIs in a very horizontal way in exchange between these ecosystems is key. I think the, as we said, the good thing about standards is you have so many of them to choose from, right? And nevertheless, I think a tremendous momentum in Etsy, in surveillance, ITU, all these recognized regional and worldwide bodies which are trying to drive some, even bottom up or terrible approach to civilization. For example, Sony, one of several companies here, a member of the One and Two M initiative, for instance. They also empower a lot of not really standardization body, more like industry groups. For example, the Qualcomm Lab, also the Alliance, there is also, I think one on Samsung is this, pair handing and many others in specific verticals in fact, which I mentioned others. Now my, I meet startups every day and then on the consumer side, you see, oh, nice connected, toothbrush or connected, scale connected whatever they say recently, lighter for some people to smoke if that's nice and everybody's doing its own API, which makes sense, it's a lower cost. So how do you move through the consumer world from individual APIs, which are nice by themselves for more global and, you know, horizontal set of devices that can communicate with each other. I still think there's a lot of work to be done by everybody in the value chain. And I'll just add a little bit to that from the perspective of Samsung, I hope. So I think that, you know, as we mentioned earlier, the great thing about standards there's so many to choose from. What really matters is which ones get implemented and across all the devices and how they actually gain adoption. So as some of the other folks have mentioned, Samsung's involved in Thread, a QB6 basically on top of ZigBee, also involved in the Open Interconnect Consortium, I believe is the name of the consortium which is working with smart things on standardization. So I think that for Samsung, the challenge is really deciding which one of these approaches and technologies to implement in our products and our dishwashers and our TVs and our fridges and all these other devices. And making that consistent across the devices that we ship is an extremely powerful thing. And that's where we're trying to add it up. And again, to echo the point around consumer value product, these, you know, in our looks at this, your garage or opener has an app, your TV has an app, you know, all these things have apps, there's about three or four before you just throw the phone down on the ground and stop using. And so this platform needs to exist. And how it gets done is a very complex process and we'll all be working against that. But we need to do it to achieve the vision and the value we want. Thank you. Okay, so we have standards in place. We've got an interoperability working. We've got legacy systems connected. So apparently we have these trillions of dollars to be made for the next few years. And I like these numbers because they're very exciting, not necessarily reflecting a very realistic amount of money that each one of you is making though. Where does the load hanging fruit lie? Is there any load hanging fruit right now? What is it that each one of the entities we have here enabling right now or in the short to midterm? I'm sorry. You guys want to go the other direction? Yeah. Okay, so, you know, I think the load hanging fruit are really these simple devices that are connected that we control via our smart phones and are signed well and work together with other devices in a simple way. Beyond that, you know, some other companies are more about preparing monthly revenue and subscription and those types of things. And you'll see a lot of investment in those spaces as well. That those are kind of the easy things. I think the things that get harder are around data and be able to make things automatic across systems without having to actually set up rules as users and these types of things. So those would be the things we'll get to. But for now it's products and services at the very basic level. I think the golden rules of three years of dollars is still a little bit far away. But one thing, for example, that Sony does and just announced it a couple of weeks ago, we have, as I mentioned, car insurance and financial technology in Japan. And we have been launching this OBG-2 type of device to basically a peripheral you put in your car. And it's like pay as you drive. So if you drive well, then you get discount insurance if you drive very poorly. Then you pay more in a very seamless fashion. So it's not a very sexy thing, maybe. It's not a flattering, but it's a concrete implementation of something from an industry which is very long lasting and with very limited innovation from the idea or perspective coming to something new. At the same time, I think whatever can exist here in Silicon Valley, and we are all geeks here in a good way, earlier doctors at least, may not travel easily to mass markets if I ask my grandmother in France to use a quite a scale or connect to, you know, to brush again. I don't really think it's this, it's a big gap. So how as an individual company, as an industry group, as a bundle with operators, with cool services, we can make it something which doesn't require a PhD to use. Yeah, I think the low hanging fruit is stuff that actually solves people and businesses problems today. Right? There's a lot of stuff out there that just does stuff for the sake of doing stuff and that really doesn't resonate with consumers, right? With businesses, you know, the connected fork that I saw at CES, right? I mean, it really cares about it. I mean, building on that OBD2, right? So that's a, for those of you who don't know, it's a port in your car under your steering wheel that if you have any kind of car it's been around for, I don't know, 10 or 15 years or something. It has that, right? But I'm a member of AAA, which if you're not familiar is the American Automobile Association. If the car breaks down, they come and tow you away after four hours or something. But the point, yeah. But a year ago, they started introducing this OBD2 dongle they call it where you could buy for $70 a year, you could buy this OBD2 dongle, plug it in your car, and then use their app and then you can see how much gas you had in your car, right? Or you could see where you are in your car. And there were niche markets, right? For, you know, hey, where my kid's in the car, right? See if you can go in and do that. But I was kind of struck by, I got a promotion recently from them as, hey, instead of $7 a year, we're giving this for free. And for free for the first years, the adoption room hasn't taken up. So, you know, people aren't doing it just for the sake of doing it, but usage-based insurance is a great model, except for me and the way I drive, but it's a good model. It's a trench. Yeah. So I think the way you put yourself in your customer, your consumer shoes and business shoes and solve real problems that I think Val can actually mention something along those lines this morning too. Yeah, so I'll answer this question from an industrial IoT perspective. So I have the good fortune of meeting with companies, typically Global 2000 across the globe. And the low-hanging fruit in the commercial side is there. The number one problem preventing companies from doing that typically is that IoT has a transformative effect on the business processes. They work so hard, six sigma and everything to standardize on. And so even though it's the, literally the technologies, what the carriers have with the hardware manufacturers and software and open API capabilities, you literally can connect machines today, get the data up in the cloud, orchestrate it, remotely manage the device for an asset that may cost a million dollars proactively. And you can do that really within three to four months. It's amazing what we can do today. You would think that most companies would jump on that, right? But they don't. And so that's the low-hanging fruit, really, from a commercial perspective, but it's getting companies to adopt what the change will affect their business, which is significant. That's not the way we do it. That data, private to me, is it being anonymized? How's it being worked through the system? There's a lot of complexities for these corporations to understand what the impacts are. So it's all about risk mitigation that they work through and they'll spend a year working through some of those things. And that reduces the rate of adoption in the low-hanging fruit. The apples, in my opinion, are rotting on the tree, literally as corporations stall and try to work their way through it, is from a business process perspective and organizational change perspective. So I think that the most important factor about low-hanging fruit is you gotta make sure it's something people wanna eat. And I think that there's some studies that are being done that kind of indicate there's a little bit of a backlash that's going on in the world of IoT. Maybe it's a little bit of exhaustion. So for example, BI recently released a research report that said that over 50% of consumers that are out there, actually only one of the most desired functionality is to control it with their smartphone. One of the lower desires on their list is something that's like automation. That's like 21% of people actually want an automated system, translate that to a full system. So we're looking at, as you guys have said, point solution, solve problems. What's also interesting is that over 50% of these same responders think that the current family of IoT products are gimmicky. And about 43% said they won't change the products they have today unless there's a very real value. And a lot of people are seeing real value as something that saves them money. So low-hanging fruit, in my opinion, and based on this information, is something that will save the consumer's money. We're gonna have to revisit that connected cutlery product offering. I'm not sure if you're based on it. All right, sorry. How can I ask you to carve that turkey? Very, very interesting insight so far. So I'm looking for the question that's gonna make these people not want to answer it. Do we have one that's a challenging one? Thank you. Please give it a go. Wait for the microphone. She's been doing that all week. So. Well, I'm not sure that it's gonna be a challenging enough. So it seems like people talk about low-hanging fruits and what could be the killer out, and they don't want to really try the customer adaptation. But it seems like, as you said, most of the things are more like gimmicky, or more like kind of sharper image, kind of products that at least sound small niche, but none of this is studied like a really broad consumers. So do you think this is going to be the way that IOT is going to be?   Or there's gonna be, some way, some day, somebody finds a holy grail of killer up and then kind of dominate the market. What's your view on that? Like, what's gonna be that application kind of spectrum of being? So is there a single killer app? That's the first question. I think that one of the things that we can do is we can actually look back and learn from our history. Look at the computer industry, and look at what had to happen to the computer industry for computers to become mainstream. There was a lot of, as we said, there was a lot of gimmicky solutions. There was a lot of niche solutions to connect to computers together. There was a lot of niche value propositions for users of computers, you know, play games or use a calculator, right? It was very simple to begin with. And what had to happen was you had to kind of learn by doing. And I think that's what we're in right now, is we're learning by doing. And the challenge is, like the challenge that you have with any technology, there's not a platform that's actually ubiquitous yet. IP might be one of those platforms that would be that way. But all these companies that are signing up and coming into the crowdfunding space is like Kickstarter. They're becoming, more than they think they're becoming, they're becoming end-to-end service providers to the likes of Samsung with much smaller scale and much smaller ability to actually close the deals that they're actually signing up for. So you're gonna have, as you had in the computer industry, as you had with any kind of connectivity between, I guess it's reducing the friction between consumers and technology, you're gonna have that continued challenge where you're gonna have people step up with these ideas and these ideas are gonna be shot down by consumers and we're gonna learn by that and grow to the next level to the next level. I think we're in a natural phase of that growth and early phase of that growth right now. Yeah, no, that's a very good question too. Is there a holy grail or pot of gold out there? Maybe, there's certainly a hard to find and hard to come by. I hope I'm still looking myself on how I can find that pot of gold. You know, I think some of the challenges are too often a lot of these companies and people bringing solutions to market really are focusing on the technology and at the end of the day, this is really not at all about the technology, right? It's about transformation, it's about transforming business. You know, as you mentioned, it's about transforming people's lives and society and so like I said before, it's about solving problems so it's about understanding your consumers. I've started doing a little bit of an unscientific poll and talking with people who I meet not in this industry and ask them if they know about Internet of Things or what that means and I counted about five or six people I did that to this week and two of them had never even heard the term. Three people couldn't explain to me just what it was. There was only one person who sort of knew what it was so I think we probably need to move on from that buzzword as well and I don't know what we call it but again, it's about solving people's problems at the end of the day and I guess the last point to the business transformation side, I think for this, you really need to use the lean startup principles like Chris talked about in his keynote yesterday and I think that's imperative, go test these processes and you can't use the typical KTIs, can't use the typical processes and procedures to bring this IOT to market. Chris, maybe a final comment for me because you discussed that need for an overarching platform brings together apps and services that might initially seem to be completely disjoint or disconnected. Sure, so I think yesterday we talked a little bit about the Gardner Hyde Cycle which is kind of useful tool sometimes, kind of not. The point is we, the people in this room, this community, this industry are at the peak of inflated expectations right now and there is an inevitable trough of disillusionment that we will head into and that's going to happen as we struggle on search and try to get platforms figured out to get to the consumer value and then they call it the peak of the trough of enlightenment or slope of enlightenment. That's us. We're about to go through that and I think the key for us, we can do this quickly with platforms, with the right products and with this iteration quickly, faster than people expect us to. It's folks, the technology, the process, the design patterns are there to enable us to do it. So I think that yeah, we're going to, we will become Web 2.0 a little bit at some point in some of these things and the trick for us is really using the right tools and techniques to find that consumer value and transform these ideas and these technologies and products people love. Okay, I think we've run out of time. I'd like to thank our panelists, please. Thank you so much. Because I'd like you to work with sharing your experience.


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