So clearly, we've said that we're interested in the new form factors, phones, tablets, TVs. We've shown the TV, we've seen the desktop interface. We will in due course show the phone and the tablet, unity, Ubuntu experiences as one coherent family. And there's a lot of innovation that goes into developing and designing those experiences as one coherent family. We believe we've led the world there. The desktop, you know, a lot of the rest of the world is saying, well, the desktop's boring, the desktop's not interesting, but we believe the desktop is what most of us use most of the day. And so there's still a lot of room for innovation there. So we've done a couple of things. We focused on design and user experience of the shell. We focused on bringing personal cloud services to the desktop. We were the first in Ubuntu to have personal cloud services fully integrated into the operating system. Apple, head of Microsoft, head of the competition. And we focused on bringing aspects of these new form factors, the mobile form factors into the desktop, so overlay scroll bars and so on. But there are other areas where we can innovate as well. And the HUD is an example of us saying, looking at the desktop experience and saying, here's an interaction pattern which has many good things about it, it's well understood, but it's also slow and awkward in certain ways. And it doesn't map to a world where people are using new software applications every day. They're changing software applications much faster today than they did 15 years ago. 15 years ago, you had to go down to the store and buy software and then come home and install it. There's a lot of friction and you wouldn't do that very often. Today we're getting software every day, new software is on and off every day. So it's worth our while to explore new user interface paradigms. So we looked at the menus. And that's where we started with the HUD. The HUD will go much further than just menus. It's completely complementary, so menus aren't going away. We think that if we really can innovate with the HUD the way we believe we can innovate with the HUD, that you'll never use menus. And so one day in future, if they disappear, you won't notice. But they'll probably always be around. Mainly we want to focus on helping people get what they want to get done, done quickly. And there are two stories there. One is heavy users.  The other is the other end of the spectrum. It's a very lightweight user who is just trying out an app and doesn't want to have to learn everything about the app, doesn't want to have to map out the whole functionality of the app. They just want to try and get something done. The HUD really is the first bit of user interface innovation we've seen that addresses both of those opposite spectrums in a very nice way. What's shipping in 1204 with the HUD is a first cut just to signal the intent and to open it up so that other people can innovate around it as well. But this is a real area of research. It's super exciting. We've had contacts from user interface researchers from all of the major companies, from Microsoft through Google. And they're all fascinated by it. It's really powerful. So we're very proud of that work and we're very proud again that it's available first as free software.


Welcome back to our lecture series Math 4220 Abstract Algebra 1 for students at Southern Utah University. As usual, I'm your professor today, Dr. Andrew Misseldine. We're going to talk some more about groups today. We learned about them in the previous lecture, lecture 7. For lecture 8, I want to focus primarily on an aspect related to a group which is called a Cayley table named after mathematician Arthur Cayley here. A Cayley table of a group is a table, as the name might suggest, where the rows and the columns of the table are associated to elements of the group. Then when we look at the interior of the table, by taking the row associated to G and the column associated to H, the element in that row and column is the product of the elements G and H. We can actually use the Cayley table to represent the binary operation in play right here. I say product in sort of a general sense. I'm not saying the operation has to be a multiplication, but you can look up on the table what is the resultant given the two operands. As an example of this, let's take the group Z5, with addition, where we take the number 01234. We add them together by the rule of addition, mod 5, and the Cayley table would be what you see over here. We're going to have rows that are associated to, I guess I'm talking about the columns right now, we have columns associated to elements of the group, 01234. Then the rows are also associated to elements of the group, 01234. It's not required, but it's sort of best practice to write the rows and the columns in the same order. And we traditionally like to put the identity element first. Now, when you look at a group like Z5, as we're going to represent these numbers as integers 1 through 4, it makes sense to kind of put them in ascending order. For most groups, though, there's not some well understood notion of, you know, ordering right. And so there might not be an obvious listing, but we usually like to put the identity element first. And then we also typically, when we have a Cayley table, like to indicate the operation symbol itself, like this is a plus. And it's not required. But when we're working mod 5, it's useful to represent the operation. Because in addition to modular addition, there's like modular subtraction, modular multiplication, modular division. And the notion of a Cayley table actually makes sense for any binary operation. It does not have to be a group to have a Cayley table. We can make a Cayley table for any binary operation. But there are some properties we can notice when we look at the Cayley table here. So for example, if we pick the number 1 and we pick the number 3, if we come together, we find the number 4. What this means is 1 plus 3 is equal to 4 when we work mod 5. That's what we're trying to say right there. Clear it up a little bit. As another example, if we take the number 3 and we take the number 4, and then when we come together, we look that row, that column, we get the number 2. What this means to us is that 3 plus 4 is equal to 2 when we work mod 5. So we can read the binary operation off of the Cayley table by looking up the rows and we look up the columns here. Now the identity in a group can be identified as the unique element with a row or column which matches the group indicators perfectly. So let me kind of erase the screen right here. You'll notice that when you look at 0, like the row that involves 0 matches up with the indicator row perfectly. That's because it's the group identity. And likewise, if we look at the column associated to the identity and you look at the column of indicators, you'll see that the two things are identical. Every other row will be a rearrangement of the group elements. Every other row is a proper permutation. I mean, mainly this is the identity permutation, right? If you look at the column associated to 1, things got mixed around a little bit. 1, 2, 3, 4, 0. If you look at the column associated to 4, you're going to get 4, 0, 1, 2, 3. It's not the right order we started off with like right here. So when one looks at a Cayley table, you can actually identify the identity element because you're looking for the row that's just a carbon copy of the indicators on the Cayley table. So we can identify identities from the Cayley table. Also the inverse of an element, say g, can be found on the Cayley table by finding the column which contains the identity of the identity in that row. So for example, if you look at the number 1, we know who the identity is because the identity looks just like the row of indicators here. So because we know who the identity is, we can search this. And we find it. Here you are. So we find the identity in the table, and that then tells us that 4 is the inverse of 1 because 1 plus 4 is equal to 0, the identity. All right, go back up a little bit. If we were picked to say the number 3, we could see that if we search along, here's a 0. And then if you look up who gave me 0 as a 2, we see that the inverse of the number 3, mod 5, is 2 because 3 plus 2 is equal to 0. We can find the inverse of any elements. So like we said, 1's inverse is 4. Likewise, 4's inverse is 1. We saw that 3's inverse was 2. And likewise 2's inverse was 3. Who's the inverse of 0, the identity itself? Well, it's its own inverse. So we can find inverses by looking at the table right here. Another thing we can also see from the Cayley table is that this group is commutative. That is what we call an abelian group. This is what, the way we can see that is that this table, because honestly a Cayley table is just a matrix, right? This is just a 5 by 5 matrix, if we look at these numbers right here. Well, what happens when you take the transpose of this matrix? If you reflect this table across its main diagonal, you will see that it's a mirror image. You have 1, 2, we get 3 and 3 right here, 3 and 3 there, 4, 0, just looking at some of these examples. This table is symmetric. If we think of it as a matrix, this is a symmetric matrix. And a symmetric table, a symmetric table implies that you have a, we'll say, a commutative, a commutative operation. So summarize what we've done here. We can identify that the operation is commutative by seeing the Cayley table is symmetric. We can find the group, we can find the identity element by finding a row identical to the labels. And we, and if we have an identity, we can search for inverses by looking up the identity in the table itself. And we can also do all of the binary operations from the table. So one can very quickly see whether we have a group from a Cayley table with one exception. It turns out that associativity from the Cayley table is not an easy thing to identify because associativity involves three elements. A, B times C is equal to A times B, C. And so since it requires three elements, the table only talks about two. It's a little bit more difficult to see associativity from a Cayley table. So I'm not going to present a method of quickly identifying associativity from a Cayley table. In general, that's a hard argument to show that an operation is associative. Before we end this video though, let's look at another example. This time, let's look at the multiplicative group Z8 star with respect to multiplication mod 8. Remember how we constructed the group Z8 star? We only look for those numbers which are co-prime to 8. And so when you go from 0 to 7, that'll be the numbers 1, 3, 5, and 7. Notice very quickly we can identify that 1 was the identity if we didn't know that already because it matches up right here. We can also see that every element is its own inverse, right, because notice 1 times 1 is 1, 3 times 3, 4 times 4, and 7 times 7 is the identity. So every element is its own inverse, which is kind of curious. And also we can see that when we reflect across the main diagonal that this Cayley table is symmetric. So this tells us that this is an abelian group. Again, the associativity of multiplication is not determined by the table, but that's something we already know. So we can see some of this information from the table here. Something else I wanted to point out from this Cayley table here, I mean other than the basic facts that like 3 times 5 mod 8 is equal to 7, 3 times 5, which we know is 15, is equal to 7 mod 8. So we can read that from the table without having to do the calculation, assuming the table is small enough we can manage it that way. The other thing I want to mention is that in any row or column of a Cayley table, you'll notice that every element of the group appears once in only once. So like let's take the row associated to 5. We see a 5, we see a 7, we see a 1 and we see a 3. Every element shows up in that row in some order, could be scrambled up based upon some permutation here, but every element shows up once and only once. When you have a table where every row and column show, every element shows up once and only once, this is referred to as a Latin square. And you might have seen Latin squares before, because honestly every time you play the game Sudoku, you are experimenting with a Latin square. Sudoku, as a game right, has the rules that all the numbers 1 through 9 show up in every column exactly once and every row exactly once. I mean there's also these squares you draw when you have Sudoku, so it's a little bit more specific, but Sudoku is an example of a Latin square. Every column and every row in a Cayley table has the property that the element shows up once and only once. It will be there, but it will only be there once.


There's a bias in your brain called the liking bias. So to succeed, you have to be likable. And aggression is very dangerous because there's this game theory thing where the scientists in the 60s created game theory which said, how should you react to another person? And they ran a couple hundred million computer simulations and the answer is always start out nice unless you're in jail. If you're in a hostile situation like a prison where everybody's a known, aggressive person, then you start out mean. But in the real world of business, people are sensitive for different reasons. So I can't tell you how many times when people have observed me doing business network and they're like, everybody's nice. And I'm like, yes, yes. So my advice to you, if you feel like people are mean or something, hang out with a better quality people. High quality people are not mean. I promise you this.


Okay, I'll go ahead and call the meeting to order. Let's go ahead and do a roll call. Alder-Feldy. I'm here, I'm here. Great, Alder-Feldy. Here, here, here. Alder-Dekker. Here. Great, Alder-Akley is excused, Alder-Selzer here. If we could all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Great, do we need to do any introductions? Do you want to say anything else? Make an answer from the fire department. Okay. Okay, wonderful. All right, we'll move on to agenda item number five, approval of the minutes for the October 25th, 2023. We'll approve, oh, second. Great, any discussion? Great, all those in favor, please say aye. I'm an aye. Thanks, Barb. Any opposed? Great, chair votes aye. Minutes are approved. Okay, agenda item number six, resolution number 92324, a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the joint powers agreement for the Sheboygan County, for Sheboygan County and the city of Sheboygan, 911 emergency system. Who am I passing this off to? I can speak to them. Okay. This is an annual agreement. Our office has reviewed it and would recommend approval as is. Okay, any, yep, go ahead. Question, why is it done on an annual basis and not 10 years? I mean, it's not going to go away. This is, you'd approve this every year, regardless. That's a great question. Typically we like to see contracts have a little longer life than a single year. I would have to suspect that there is a statutory provision that relates to this because of budgeting and appropriations, things like that. But I haven't researched that question, so I can't give you an educated answer. Yeah, because I remember doing this before and I thought, well, why don't we do it for fight or why don't we do it, yeah, I don't know. There are issues, generally speaking, with encumbering the city financially before a council has approved that expense in that year's budget. So typically when we have long-term contracts that extend beyond the current year, we include a provision in there that says the city is going to be able to withdraw from this agreement if funds aren't granted in the future. And so I would expect that if we were to do a longer-term agreement here, but it may be that there are reasons why that type of provision is not desirable for either party, and so then the alternative would be a year. Well, the other thing I thought was maybe because we're working with another government body, to be meaners, you know, and they always want it on a year, you know what I mean, so then we're going to do it their way or something like that, maybe. That could be. If you'd like, I could look into this further. I'm going to approve anyway. Okay. Yeah, it could be the county's burden, the way they do their budgeting, too, is the same thing, you know, so it's a little bit of a pressure to sway. I will make a motion to approve that. Second. Okay, we've got a motion and second. Any other discussion? Great, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Motion is approved. Okay, agenda item number seven, RO number 692324 by City Clerk submitting various license applications. I can speak to that. Thank you. Attorney Adams has reviewed the license applications that were reviewed in this week's meeting. He recommends approval. There was one with a class A to your application. He has a notation in here that there was a correction of premise needed. That has been corrected. So there's no reservations on approval then. Cool. Any other questions? Great, looking for a motion? Motion to approve, second. Great, I got a motion, second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, chair votes aye. Motion is approved. Okay, number eight, discussion regarding the time of future committee meetings. There is a six month period out of the year where I have a very hard time getting here in 415. And I am, as you've known the last three, I'm having a hard time making it. So I would be interested in hearing any discussion of even moving it back to like 430 or five o'clock. I would be interested to hear what other committee members say. I did reach out to Alder Ackley, but she is at work. So I don't know, I should be able to respond until later. I've always been in favor of 430 because for me it's, I get off of work at 330 and yeah, I get here, but it's a rush.  So that's my, I mean, I wanted to. Great. Barb, do you have any feelings about moving the time, fact about maybe a half hour or 15 minutes? To what would be the time then? 430. I have no qualms with that. Great. Okay. May I offer just a comment from our office? Sure. Yeah. The minutes for the committee are currently taken by an employee who was paid on an hourly rate. Yeah. So there, there is a concern that if we have a longer agenda and the meeting goes beyond five o'clock that we may run into an overtime situation. Given the timing of common council agenda submission deadlines and the role that our office plays in all of that, it's very difficult to balance that out within the week that is incurred. I don't think that'll be a huge issue if the meetings are starting at 430. If there's a longer agenda, perhaps it could be that the minute taking is split between individuals or someone else from our office takes over at five o'clock. So we're open to that as well, but just want the committee to be mindful of staff. Yeah. I mean, this is the one of the only committees that I understand that meets this early. So all the other committees don't actually meet until five o'clock. And so I absolutely hear what you're saying, but we do have a working council. And so we have to sort of make it work. And if I have to make a choice, I will take my full-time job over this. So the other piece of information was like, if 415 is the one, like we could have a discussion about keeping people giving the option of promoting in. Like if I'm stuck at work and I don't remember and I can't leave early, it would be easy for me to log in and remote in versus trying to rush from my employer to get here on time. Because the last time I did that, I was so speeding. And I believe the council rules would allow for that as long as the agendas were properly noticed. And we just, as a matter of course, put that on every LHPS agenda, you could cover that. Great, go ahead. I talked to Chuck once before and he had said something, because we had those rules in place for COVID and then we kind of went back from that. I actually would, I think that that would be something if we have to change council rules, if we could change that for even for council, I think would be helpful that. Because there are times that all of a sudden, somebody doesn't feel good, but they feel good enough that they could, they're sneezing and stuff like that. But there was a couple of times where you got kind of close on having a quorum. And somebody gets like, well, I really don't want to come in, but I can do it from home. But unless it's published, is there a way that we can change council rules so that it is an option for people on a regular basis? Yes. I would like to see, I don't know if the bearer that would start from this committee or if we're kind of getting beyond what the... I think that's beyond this agenda item, but I would just advise you to work with the legal department in crafting that. There may be appetite for other council rule changes that could be bundled into it. Just make sure that you have the necessary support to get that through, and then our office can help you draft. Would that be appropriate to go through as putting it as a committee of the whole, or do we just talk in the legal department and then putting it on the... Trying to get it on the agenda or... Yeah. Do we have to have discussion on that? I would certainly encourage discussion on it because everyone is going to have a different opinion on things. Yeah, for sure. And I think a committee of the whole provides the best opportunity for that discussion. If you could schedule one immediately before a council meeting or something to minimize disruption, I think that would be an option. Okay. Just a question. Did you ever think about moving the meeting to the morning? Is there another time that... Again, I have the flex... Just bringing food for thought. I mean, if you guys want to meet at 7 a.m., what time do you start at? That was the same thing. Well, I would start at what, 7? So you would be talking at... If we were going to have a half-hour meeting, I would have to start probably about 5.30. A.m.? 5.30. Okay, well I'm... Because I start working at 6.30. I'm not having quarrel problems. 5.30. Well, you're the one that wants to do it the morning. I know, I just thought... If everybody was stuck... Yeah, I go to commission meetings, it's at 9 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. I'm going... It's just one of those things where some other people are more flexible because of the people that are on... That are members of that committee because they're either retired or they have a chance. Yeah. I mean, you might have a time where I'm always off between 9 and 10 during the day because that's my lunch break or... Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I think I was... I'm more pertaining to the older committees, like this one, Public Works, Finance and Personnel. Yeah. Are all at 5 o'clock or later starting. But 4.30 is the one we're going to land on. And I think out of the history of all of our meetings in a year, we maybe have, what, two or three that go over. It's not a frequent... If it was a frequent thing, I would say, yeah, let's talk through that. But it feels... I've been on this for two years and I think we've only had three late ones. And if we think we're going to be running long, can we just forward those items to the next committee meeting if we didn't have to take action? That committee meeting, it'd be over within a half an hour anyway. We could do that. Another option is to have those minutes that go beyond 5 o'clock generated by recording. Yeah. It's long, but that assumes that the recording works as it's required to every time. Yeah. But I think we can make it work between our staff. Yeah. Okay. So in the spirit of saving time, let's go ahead and move... Can we start it in the new year? Let's start it in 2024. There's a new budget season. We won't affect this budget. So let's go into the new season. So starting in the January meetings, starting at 4.30. Barb, did you catch that? I missed most of it. Okay. We were saying that we're not going to start until January for this committee meeting to move into the 4.30 time slot. We're going to keep it consistent for the... Do you need a motion to do so? Actually, it's actually the chair's discretion. Oh, it's just the chair's discretion. So I'm starting in January, we're moving into 4.30. I'll make that motion to do so. No, we don't need a motion, Barb. It's all covered. Thank you, though. Okay. I appreciate your support, but I do need a motion to adjourn. Do you want to make that one? Sure. Motion to adjourn. Great. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Next meeting date is November 29th.


First off, congratulations everyone. You made it all the way to the end session. I am absolutely shocked that you did. If you're like me, you're having a fun time here in Prague. Today we're going to talk about growing your agency by partnering with others. And real quick show of hands. Who are agency owners here? Agency owners, most of you. Agency management or involved in biz dev or somewhere in there. One in quiet place to sleep. No, okay, good. So as you know, building an agency is not easy. As a business owner, you have to wear all the hats. You get to be the janitor, the biz dev, the sales marketing developer, client relations, HR, you get to do it all, right? And this is why unfortunately 50% of businesses fail within the first five years. 70% fail within 10. So the odds are stacked against you when you're starting a business. And this isn't to scare you. And if you're new to your agency or just starting your agency, don't look at this as something that is scary. Look at this as a good challenge, right? Your milestones here are going to be year five and year 10. You can get past year five, you can get past year 10. You have a sustainable business, right? But as a new business owner, you're trying to do all the things and go out and be all the things. And knowing that sometimes those cards are stacked against you, you have this feeling of it's us versus them. It's me against the world. It's my agency against everyone else. And I'm here to tell you today that business is not a zero sum game. If you win, someone else doesn't lose. If someone else loses, you don't win. That's not how business works. And so as we start to look at this like us versus them mentality, what we really see is that businesses often reflect the community that they're in. I'll give you an example. So when I started my business back in 2009, I started it as an app agency. I had this grand idea that we were going to be building a whole bunch of apps for this new thing called the App Store that we were going to partner with a bunch of celebrities in Hollywood. Ask me about it over a beer later. It's a really fun story. But that was the original premise of our business. And so I was in the Apple community and I was working in and around the Apple community. And so I got to go to in the first tech conference I ever got to go to was WWDC 2010. This is the infamous one where Steve Jobs got up during the keynote and FaceTime failed on him. And you could look across the room and see like half of it just lose their job. But and then one person actually heckled him and told him that he should be on Verizon. And so as I was waiting in line for the keynote, which in Apple you do here, you just kind of walk into the auditorium there. It was like an iPhone launch day. We had to get up at 6 a.m. Get out in line, get a coffee and stand in line for hours. And so I'm standing in line for hours waiting to get into Moscone to watch the infamous Steve Jobs keynote. And I finally start talking to the people next to me. I'm like, Oh, what are you doing? Where do you work? How do you work? All that type of stuff. Come to find out we were building the same app, right? And so in the app store, it very much is a zero sum game. Someone's going to download your app or they're going to download someone else's app.  And so instantly the conversation changed when we both realized that we were building the same app. We stopped talking about what we were building or how we were building or anything like that.   And so what I realized was these walled garden communities, right? These walled garden technologies create walled garden communities where people aren't wanting to share because there is this this competitive atmosphere amongst everyone, even the developers. And so then entered Drupal. I needed to make a website for my app. I ended up choosing a theme off a theme monster.  And it was for this thing called Drupal that I never knew about. I ended up installing it. It looked nothing like the demo, hence me starting to develop with Drupal. And off we went. And as I started getting into the Drupal community, after getting into the Apple community, it was very weird for me to have like this group of people that are willing to just talk and help and be kind. Like it just wasn't something that was familiar to me. Or I had investors and business mentors. And as I was telling them, like, hey, you know, I'm going to go to this conference and I'm going to like talk about what I'm building. The first reaction was like, why? Like, why are you talking and helping other people out? Right? This is our this is our competitive advantage. We know how to build this thing better than they do. We should be keeping that to ourselves. And so what I started to find out was that in Drupal, as we code, we work together to find the best solution, right? The the phrases come for the code, stay for the community. But in reality, what you end up finding is that that doesn't stop at the code base, that that the Drupal community and the the essence of the open source community bleeds into the net and the network of businesses around it, right? And so this graphic is actually kind of special to me because when I first started getting into Drupal, I was starting to work on at the time the Omega project and I was working with some very intelligent developers there and they were literally at times just pulling me along like, you have no idea what you're doing, but we're going to go do this all together. And then what did I end up doing? I ended up turning around and saying, well, okay, I'm going to teach the person after me because the person before me taught me and I still remember an IRC one person showed up one day is like, I have two days to make a website or I'm going to lose my job. I have no idea what this Omega thing is. And we literally got credentials to the server and all of us just built the site for him. And the guy was just over the moon and he kept his job. And so what we ended up learning was that you end up having this conversation with other agencies with other groups and you're like, are you a friend? Are you a foe? Like, what is this? And I started attending my local Drupal meetup and Drupal community and started building relationships with other agencies and other developers and we started sharing tactics and techniques. At the time, I was working with smaller clients, universities, you know, small businesses and such. And then one day I get a call on its Intel and they said, hey, we got your number from someone else and they said that you're the best one for this job. We'll come to find out someone else in the community that I had worked with. They had called them to their agency and said, hey, we want you to build this new thing and it's going to be on Omega and we want you to build out the whole front end for us. And it's a black box project at Intel. It's the next new thing that Intel is going to do. Any of us at our agency would jump on the opportunity to work with a massive company like Intel. What did they do? They go, oh, I'm not the guy you want to talk to. You need to go talk to Chris. He's the guy who knows Omega better than I do. And he passed it over to me. I'm sitting there going, why did you just give up on that? Again, that competitive mindset just hadn't cleared out. And so then I started to realize some of the best relationships that I have in this community have come from the ability for me to say, oh, I'm not the best one for that. You've got to go talk to that person. They say that, oh, go talk to Chris. He knows how to do that. And as we start working together, what you have to start to do is know yourself. Know your agency. Every single one of your agencies do things really special. And they do things really good. But I guarantee you they do things not so well either, right? And understanding what you're good at makes makes you know where your gaps are, right? So for me and my team, we're the nerds in the room, we can get in, nerd out, we know the technology, the architecture, how to build the best thing in the world. But you ask us to design that thing. No way, it's going to look like it's going to look like trash at the end of the day, right? I famously always tell folks, I almost failed art in college, because the art teacher told me that I didn't mix my colors right when I was trying to recreate a Picasso. And to her, I said, well, if I could recreate colors like Picasso, I wouldn't be in your art class. And that set off a fun relationship. And so I never really got this whole art thing. I could never do it. But if you gave me a picture, I could make that picture, or I can make the website look like that picture, right? Now we get Figma and everything else. But at the time, it's like you give me a Photoshop file, pixel for pixel, I can make that thing happen. But you give me a blank screen. I'm never going to draw a website for you at all. And so I started to understand where are my gaps and started working with other agencies who are like, hey, we can design the hell out of stuff. But I don't know how to push pixels like you guys do, right? And so then all of a sudden, we start talking and, again, getting over that hump of are we friends or foes? Are we going to work together? And then pretty soon you come out to realize like, did we just become best friends? Like, are we so compatible here that we can work together to fill each other's gaps? And you end up finding that, okay, yep, we're partners, we're going to work together. Now what? Right? So like, now that we've gotten the concept of you need to start working with people, you know your gaps in your company and your agency, you've found that partnering agency that has similar but opposite gaps that you do and you have this collaboration ready. Now what do you do, right? And that what I found was, is that in trying to partner, it was always a great idea. But then all of a sudden you get into it and you're like, this is kind of messy, right? Because then again, you're both trying to run a business, you're both trying to support a team. And so one of the things that I learned was early and often, you got to clarify roles and keep the communication open. If you're not talking with the other agency constantly, things will start falling apart, right? And so what we normally do when we start partnering with an agency is we're all on Slack, we join our Slack channels together. We create all these partnering channels and our teams are one. Everyone talks to each other, devs talk to each other, biz dev talks to each other, everyone talks to each other. But then as we start to approach the roles within the project, we need to clarify them. Who's the lead? Who's the sub, right? Like, who's going to take on all of the paperwork of actually working with the client? Who's going to manage the client? Who's going to manage the team? Who's going to manage all the different pieces, right? The more that you can communicate and keep those open channels of communication open, even in times of, you know, happiness and, you know, we just landed this big client together, it's going to pay off in dividends when things start getting hard, when the client's not happy, when the, you know, the project's on the rocks or something's going wrong. If you haven't established those clear communications and roles first, then when things get tough, it's going to be even harder to try to establish those, right? The other and most important thing that I've found is, share your new business pipeline with each other, and that is like the most, you know, fearful thing at times, and it's just, you know, kind of a sensitive moment when you're like, here is all of the work that I'm bidding on, and then I'm going to tell you about it, knowing that you, if you wanted to not partner with me, you could just go talk to them and steal it from me, right? And we've had folks try to do that, and that's fine, and then you just don't work with them anymore. But what we end up doing is we actually sit down with our partnering agencies, and our agency partners with a number of agencies now, and we sit down with our partners, and we expose our pipeline, we say, here's everything that we're looking at, what are you looking at, how do we do this, right? Because then we can go into these pitches better, we can go into the RFPs better and more equipped if we know what each other are working on. But to do that, you have to look at combined success as now your goal. Your goal is no longer, I need to get my company past that five year mark, I need to get my company past that 10 year mark, now you're looking at, I need to get our companies there, right? So sometimes that means you're going to be cutting up the RFP a bit, right?  But that's not to say that they don't have designer or engineers of their own. And so what happens when you say, well, we can do Drupal and you can do Drupal, then how do we both do Drupal, right? So maybe on this project, our devs are going to work and yours aren't. And on the next project, RPM is going to take over and your devs are going to work, right? We try to split up the work and try to make it so that our combined success will grow the companies together rather than always trying to look at what's in the RFP and just claw as much as you can, right? No one wants to be that on the opposite end of that with the with the partnering agency. And the way to look at this, and I come from a fishing and boat related community is the old saying is like a rising tide lifts all boats, right? Like if everyone is succeeding together, if you're all winning projects together, then everyone wins, right? But if one person is trying to, you know, bail their boat out and they're dumping the water into the next one, well, that just doesn't work. So. So you've got your relationship with your partnering agency solid. You've got your communication, your roles, your pipeline, everything's good there. Now you got to talk to the clients. And this is always the kind of the iffy thing. And we've gone into projects and I can't tell you how many email addresses that I have of other companies. Like I've got other agency email addresses and I just tell them now just forward them all to one email address. But I've got just a ton of email addresses, right? It's because initially everyone tries to hide these partnerships from the clients, right? Like, oh, yeah, we've got a 20 person team. And I have like there's partners and I just let them do this because I don't want to burst their bubble. But like I'm on their team page on their website as if I'm in their company. But a simple LinkedIn search shows that I have my own company, right? So it's like, you know, so my approach to this is open and honest. Do the clients know? Yes, we go into this and say, just so you know, we feel like this is going to be a better project with better outcomes if we bring in one of our partnering agencies who's a expert in this area that we're going to be working on, right? It makes you look better because the worst thing that you can do to a client say like, I can do everything and then fail at half of it and kill it at the other, right?  But the other thing is keep one primary point of contact there. And so that's the other thing is the client goes, okay, so for instance, we started working with a very large international company and we did this. We, at the beginning in the RFP said, look, we can do this whole thing, but we feel that we're going to be better with this other agency. We're going to bring them in and the combined of us are going to work together. However, we're going to take all the contracts. It's all going to come through us if you have any problems, talk to me, if you have any issues, talk to, like, have everything flow through because the moment you diverge that, then all of a sudden you're like, oh, who talked to the client? You talked to the client? They tell you that and then all the communication channels get muddy again, right? So again, clear, open communication not only between the teams, but also with the clients is mandatory. And so the title of the topic is, or the session is, I've seen further than others. It's because I've stand on the shoulders of giants. I look at this as when I was starting my agency, I got my start by having a couple of other agencies say, hey, you know what? You're good at what you do. Why don't you guys come along with us and work with us? And now I'm able to go to other agencies and say, hey, you're really good at what you do. I want you guys to partner with us. I think a quote that I heard back in 2012 that stuck with me is from my agency owner of a large Drupal agency. And he said, I have created multiple businesses from work that I haven't done. And that stuck with me because I was just starting out at that time. I just started in the Drupal community. And I was like, I want to get to that point. I want to get to the point where I have so much work. I don't know what to do with it, but I know that I need to have someone else help me. And I'm creating other companies out of the overflow of work that I've got. So I encourage you guys to look for today, you know, if you're going to go out to the bar tonight or go out and have a meal to eat, find another agency, talk with them, figure out what they're good at, talk about what you're good at. If you get really into it, start talking pipeline already, but start talking with other agencies and learn how you can make those matches and see if you can find some partnerships out of this conference.  So with that, surprisingly, I kept it within 20 minutes for those of you that know me know that I can talk for like hours. So I think we've got four minutes before we head downstairs for the closing session. But if there's any questions, I'm happy to answer them. We can probably have time for one or two. If you don't and you want to hop downstairs and get a good seat for the closing session, totally fine. You're not going to offend me at all. Any questions? Yes. Correct. Yep. Yeah. So everything we do is when we when we that's a good question. So is it a formal partnership or or not? We normally enter into NDAs with them. So that way you say, hey, look, we're going to be exposing our pipeline. We're going to be talking through some sensitive stuff. Let's just make sure that we're in this together. But normally what it ends up being is we almost exchange subcontractor relationships. And so they sign our subcontractor form. We sign theirs. And so now we have this ability to pass work back and forth between them. And contracts are always good. Like don't just do this on a handshake because contracts are always they're there for when things go wrong, not for when they go good. And I've had both scenarios and have wished I've had better contracts than either. So yeah. So for that, I'm always contracting with them, but you don't have to like formally merge your teams. But I have talked to and I've acquired other agencies and I'm talking to other agencies who've gone through the same thing where it's like all of a sudden you're partnering together, you're partnering together. And then all of a sudden say, Hey, why don't why are we not make this official and just get together? Right? So you'll find that that leads to to growing your team. And so you can make that more official. Right. Right. Well, we get a call. Your concept is getting a grand homicide which is a bomb. Are you obligated? Right. Right. Right. And you can you can create collectives. I've seen I've seen folks do all sorts of stuff and you can get creative with it. But that's the fun part of it. So yeah. Question over here real real quick. We've got yeah, we've got a couple minutes. So the benefits are really clear as to you know why to collaborate but what are the challenges that you might face? And how have you all my partners are watching this. I'm not going to say the challenges. So really the challenges come from communication and clearly defining how that relationship is going to work. I think for us. It's not like rates or anything like that. But billing is always a pain. Right. Like how are you you know managing that. So get that clear up front. Like we're going to send you an invoice every two weeks. We're going to send you an invoice every month. Whatever that looks like just make sure that's clear and open. So you're not like awkwardly dropping stuff on them. And then for us it's always tool sets.  We partner with an agency who uses Jira and teams. That's a fun conversation to have because it's like who's environment is this going to be in. We all like click up and slack better. They like click up and slack better but they have to use teams and Jira for other reasons. And so it's just like basically what our our normal priority is whoever's the primary on it. You you follow them. So you're using their tool set. You're using their techniques. And then that kind of that kind of dynamic allows you to have a little bit more control. And it's really fun when the the tables turn. And we've worked with like 500 person agencies and all of a sudden we're primary and we're an 18 person company. And all of a sudden it's like we're the little dogs in the room but we're going to tell you how to do your job. So and what's nice about it is if you have that open and clear communication no one no one really minds. So but that's that's where the friction normally comes in working with them. It's just kind of managing expectations managing the tool set deliverables. How are they going to be delivered. You know all that type of stuff. But our our clients have come to us and said our you know our partners that come to us and said our clients are staying with us because they want you. Right. So and to that point and to the point of contracts every single one of our contracts is a non-compete like if we're going to if we're going to be partnering together and whatnot that's great but if you try to go around my back and talk to the client and try to just subvert me on that that's a deal breaker like we're going to we're going to break this off and we're not doing that anymore. So and you know pick your partnership is good right. You'll you'll feel that out but again contracts are always a good thing. So I don't think I've had anyone try to steal a client from me but we've been approached by clients of our partners saying hey we want to ditch them and work with you guys alone and my response is always no I don't do that. So and then again because the community is small the the communications are small it always gets around to your partner that they did that and if you can tell them like yeah they contact me and I said no it makes that bond even stronger. So it's it's take those take those times of tests and turn them into things that will strengthen the partnership. So one last question we have time. No. All right. Thank you everyone. Thanks for staying all the way to six o'clock and.


A stabbing at a North Carolina high school on Monday left one student dead and another hospitalized, officials said. The stabbing happened during a morning fight in the gym at Southeast Raleigh High School. News outlets reported Dada Juvenile suspect was in custody, but it wasn't clear if the youth attended the school. Raleigh police chief Estella Patterson said it officials haven't released the name of the student who died. Another student remained in the hospital with injuries that weren't life-threatening. Patterson said schools should be a safe haven for students and staff. Wake County Superintendent Robert Taylor told news outlets during and during an afternoon news conference with Patterson. Both victims were transported to an area hospital. Sadly, one victim succumbed to his injuries. The second victim remains hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries. Both police and school personnel secured the building and are working and we are working very closely with Wake County public school officials to identify those directly involved in this altercation. One suspect is in custody at this time and we're happy to report that and there is no further threat to the school or to the community. This is a tragedy for everyone involved. In the days and weeks ahead we will be supporting our students and staff as they process the incident and work through their grief. The district's crisis team will be available to offer students as much support as possible. Professionals from the district's employee support and wellness program will also be on hand to support the staff. I want to share my condolences with the family and the loved ones of the victim. As a parent I can't imagine getting that call. I just cannot imagine that. I offer my prayers for those affected. However, most importantly, I pledge my resolve. School should be a safe haven for our students and staff. The happen here today is unacceptable.


Hi, my name is Uyusef Mbalaji Covena. I am a finalist in the Brown PVC and data analyst boot camp. And I would like to share my experience. It was a wonderful experience. And in fact, what's feel me to express myself. I have been impacted a lot. And I would also like to say that I have been shown the capabilities of what our platform can actually achieve. And I'm hoping this will actually be the end of the road. I intend to do more. And I intend to also give back to the society at this time.


I believe that we can create a future that is healthier, that is safer, that is more environmentally just for current and future generations. My name is Elaine Coleman and I am the Michigan Chapter Director. I'm fueled by my own experiences growing up as a child in Detroit where asthma was rampant and it had a lot to do with all the pollution and industry that was in our communities across the city. My unique role in the environmental justice movement is uplifting stories from folks from communities like mine in Detroit and making sure that all folks have the skills and the power that they need to share their experiences and advocate for what they think is best for their communities.


Hi, my name is Vatmi Nali Akbar, I am from Karachi, Pakistan and I am the developer of the game As We Should Have. Karachi, my city, the city of flights is Pakistan's premier financial and industrial center but unfortunately it has a very poor garbage management system. So my game had to revolve around minimum waste production. The gameplay of As We Should Have was also inspired from my all-time favorite game Minecraft. I use Unity as my gaming engine. I have made several games as part of my courses and assignments. The game was the first game I made independently and completely. Poetry writing and drawing are my other two areas of extreme interest. I enjoy them as much as I enjoy game making.


My aunt was a con artist and she learned from the best her father Grandpa never made it big, but he lived for the game Staying under the radar was probably what made sure he never got caught Not once he was so proud of that Mom didn't take up the family business. She got religion instead and married a tax accountant It's so ironic that it sounds like a joke, but it's true Dad was always the best for helping out with math homework Mom's more colorful relations were kept at a figurative arms length throughout my childhood Lest they'd corrupt me into following a more interesting life path Aunt Cassie was the only one who could wiggle her way into my life She was fully licensed as a psychologist, which made her a smidge more respectable But Aunt Cassie used her ability to read a person in a whole different way One probably not intended by the university who issued her degree Aunt Cassie was a bona fide psychic She had a shop and everything crystals, herbs, candles Anything you needed to fill the mystic void in your life could be bought for a healthy markup at her little store There was even a private room in the back that was used for readings and seances Because both my folks worked I would often get dropped off at the shop where I would help Aunt Cassie out with those little shows Anything from messing with the lights to knocking on walls Playing with the thermostat was my idea and an effective one Customers came to get chills down their spine didn't they? Why not provide? Cassie helped me become the skeptic I am today Showed me all the behind-the-scenes sleight of hand stuff We'd watch daytime talk shows with magicians and mediums and Cassie would explain every step From a basic rundown of cold readings to how to spot an audience plant After one particularly convincing episode I asked the natural question Couldn't some of it be real?  I ever saw my aunt refuse He was old bald and stooped He took his hat off when he came inside and twisted it in his hands as he talked Cassie tensed up immediately when she saw him The man claimed to have worked in the prison systems death row He'd been responsible for carrying out the final punishments of the worst convicted criminals on the planet In his old age this tormented him eight at his soul He wanted Cassie to contact the souls of the ones he'd killed So he could apologize and beg forgiveness before he joined them My aunt threw the most epic fit.  I hid under the counter with my hands over my ears until he left Later, I thought her reaction was one of fear because of the man's job an Executioner has to be a con artist's worst fear Eventually I got found out I Wanted to put on a magic show for my folks and stupidly I thought I'd do a medium bit where I pretended to talk to grandpa for mom huge mistake Mom freak the hell out and banned me from seeing her sister ever again. I Left some textbooks at the shop though, so I got to run in and grab them while mom fumed in the car outside And Cassie didn't even have to ask what was wrong She could read my face after all I Gave her a hug and a teary snot filled goodbye She did tell me one last secret though You know, there's a curse in this family that gets passed like a torch I hope to whatever gods might be out there that I don't pass it on to you when I go We didn't get to talk again for more than nine years That's when Facebook became popular and no parental ban could help me from trying to reconnect It was awkward She'd had a tough go of life to pay bills she went honest and With her business when all her zest and playful passion for life One day I got home to a message waiting in my inbox that made my stomach dropped the floor. I Love you kiddo Remember when I told you I Dialed her number her already crying No answer Didn't stop me from dialing again and again and again and again. I Was too much of a mess to tell my mom The police did that for me though the next day car accident drunk driver The funeral was a blur Relatives I'd never seen in the flesh pack the church.  It was such a small turnout Small turnout that bothered me The service had practically been stuffed to the rafters. I Turned around to say something and finally understood Behind my parents. There was a whole host of people all standing and staring dead ahead My parents weren't paying them the slightest attention The priest muttered some soothing condolences and excuse himself Walking right through the thick of the crowd without disturbing a single soul At the head of the group Looking just like the day I'd seen her last was Cassie All the rest in peace sentiment in the world wouldn't have done her any good Her mouth was wide wide open And just like that I knew I Know what the family curses. I know why the dead don't talk They're too busy Screaming


Now we're going to look at a slightly complicated example for free-body diagrams and in this question We are given a beam That is pinned, but that pin connection is welded So it actually behaves like a cantilever or fixed boundary condition And on this beam Which has a mass of 200 kilograms and the center of gravity position is shown here There is also a man with a mass of 80 kilograms standing on the beam and He is pulling on this rope here with a force of 300 Newtons And that rope wraps around a pulley attaches itself to the beam again and that pulley itself is attached to the ground and We are asked to calculate the force and the moment That it will occur at the welded pin in order for this system to be in static equilibrium so we're going to analyze this system by First making a free-body diagram, so we'll make a free-body diagram. We will cut the beam Here from free it from this support and we'll have to put the reactions of the welded pin there And we're going to cut here through the rope here at the bottom Okay, I've written down here the givens from the problem description So the mass of the beam is 200 kilograms the mass of the man is 80 kilograms The force the man is pulling on the rope is 300 Newtons and gravity is 9.81 meters per second square so now we're going to start by drawing our free-body diagram and We have to first establish a coordinate system Then we will draw our body So we cut the beam at point a where the pin was and at the bottom of the pulley and the man is still on the beam Now we have to consider the loads acting on the system We have the mass times gravity of the beam itself We have the mass of the man times gravity itself Then we have a force in this rope of the pulley and because it's a rope it has to be a tensile force and We have at our pin connection at a It is fixed in translation in the x and y so we will have a reaction a x and a y and It also because it's welded the pin can't rotate so we will get a moment at point a in the z direction now if we look at this we have a x a y m a z and f as Unknowns because the tension and he's pulling on the rope with 300 Newtons f is not 300 Newtons So we have four unknowns But only three equations So what can we do to? To bring down the number of unknowns Well, if you know how pulleys work you can actually already do the relation, but let's Look at cutting away the pulley separating it and Coming up with two free-body diagrams where we have tension in this rope So we know that tension is 300 Newtons and the tension will remain constant as it goes around the pulley because it's frictionless Now you can prove this to yourself if you take some of the moments for this free-body diagram around this point we get this tension Times the moment arm, which is the radius so tension times radius creates a clockwise and Then this tension times the radius creates a counterclockwise and so that sums to zero So t has to be equal to t in a frictionless pulley Okay, so now if we reanalyze this system We see that we now only have three unknowns a x a y and our moment a z Okay The masses are known and the tension is known as 300 Newtons, so we can now solve Now first I will look at some of the forces and we'll do some of the forces in the x direction And I'll use the right direction as my positive reference and here we see that our only force in the x direction is the Horizontal reaction force a x that is possible at the built-in condition But because we have no other external forces in the horizontal direction that is zero If I now look at some of the forces in the y direction and take upwards as my positive reference I have a y acting upwards and one times g acting downwards so negative M2 times g acting downwards so negative and then to T forces acting downwards Now all of these are known so I can rearrange and get a y is equal to m1 plus m2 times Acceleration due to gravity plus 2t I can then sub in the values here And I haven't written units here, but you can see I have everything in base units So 200 kilograms 80 kilograms 9.81 meters per second squared This will give me newtons and 2 times 300 newtons So the units are compatible. I can add those and I'll get 3346.8 newtons or about 3.3 kilo newtons Now if I do some of the moments I'm going to pick point a as my reference point and Counterclockwise as my positive reference direction Now because I pick point a both a x and a y pass through a And do not contribute to the moment equilibrium So my first moment will be ma z which is in the counterclockwise Thus positive in my equilibrium equation If I go along the beam the next force I encounter is m1 times g and it will have a moment arm of 1200 millimeters and it will cause a clock wise or negative moment and you see here I've transformed the 1200 millimeters into meters to keep everything in base units So that my mass times gravity times meters will give me Newton meters Now if I continue to travel along the beam, I will hit the person and There is a mass 2 times gravity with a moment arm of 1.2 meters plus 0.6 meters Which will be clockwise thus negative moment Then I have the same for t And the same for the second t which is at 1.2 plus 0.6 plus 0.3 meters Now of course, this is an equilibrium equation. So all of that has to sum to zero So I can rearrange this all of these are negative So the moment becomes the sum of all of these as positives and here I've substituted in all the numbers and again, I haven't written the units here But I've ensured that everything is in base units. So my result will come out in Newton meters So I'll get 4.937 times 10 to the 3 Newton meters which is 4.9 kilo Newton meters Now did we actually answer the question? If we look back here, we have components So in a way, we've we've answered it But the question asked us for the reaction force and the reaction moment So to be a little bit more Complete in our answer We should either draw a point a and show the resultant force and the resultant moment with an indication of its directions Or we can give it in vector formulation


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Hey everyone, how's everyone doing? I'm just out here by the lake today with the ducks Hope everyone's okay Hope you enjoyed the premiers tonight. I'm working on one for tomorrow The narcissist doesn't want you to move on It's gonna be a good one. So let's get straight into it Any questions? Yes, that is me in the profile picture I've got more pictures on my Instagram as well You can follow me on NUC survivor YouTube How to stop anger?  Try it right now if you feel angry right now Think of some things that you are grateful for and You will notice you don't feel so angry anymore. Keep the questions coming best tools for healing The inner child What I did was I reparented myself Using some guided meditations by Michelle Neves and I found that that was really effective You know, I can honestly say that I have now healed my childhood traumas you know from using those guided meditations and Also Just by meditating on my own on my past traumas So I would definitely recommend the guided meditations by Michelle Neves on YouTube and there are Many other meditations that I've used as well from Aaron Doughty Master Sri Akashana both on YouTube and I Also have to guide him at it guided meditations as well and I might upload more in the future Maybe some specifically to heal the inner child. How do you break the trauma bond? What creates the trauma bond is When we seek validation and approval from the narcissist So if you want to break the trauma bond you have to start validating yourself start practicing self-love Rather than Depending on the narcissist To validate you and to make you feel as though you are worthy of love You are already worthy of love and there is no greater love Than the love you give to yourself so start loving yourself Start validating yourself It won't happen overnight But in time it will begin to break the trauma bond How do you live with a narcissist to get when you have no choice?  You're always going to lose So the best thing you can do is just stay out of it Don't get involved in those arguments Just say two or three words And at the same time Don't resist the argument either Just observe it and let it go Don't let it have power over you Practice neutrality The thing with these narcissists is They get off on the fact That you don't want them to do certain things to you like when you really think about it the reason why We don't like the things they do Is because we don't want them to do it to us and at the same time That's exactly what the narcissist is counting on They are counting on us not wanting it Not not wanting to argue Not wanting to fight Not wanting to have them stalking and harassing us every day Because if we wanted them to do those things It wouldn't bother us But it does bother us And that's what gratifies them That's what gives them that satisfaction They are like emotional rapists If someone was trying to rape you But then you were Completely okay with it The rapists will be turned off They probably wouldn't even want to do it anymore Because they get off on the fact that you don't want them to do that to you So when you let go of the resistance and practice neutrality They can't have power over you anymore and they're forced to move on and find Another source of supply one which they can have power over Because it doesn't work with you anymore Why do narks go back to their exes? The reason why narks go back to their exes is Because they gave something to them Which they miss something which they want back Well, they made them feel a certain way Which they want to feel again and it's also because it's familiar to them. It's comfortable It gave them a sense of stability and security and that's mainly what a narcissist is looking for When they target a primary source of supply, they want to feel safe. They want to feel stable Emotionally, yes, I definitely recommend going vegan I've been vegan for almost 10 months now and I feel like I have a lot more energy I Feel more connected with animals With nature and I just feel a lot happier as well and there's so many vegan options now And the vegan meat looks smells and tastes just like regular meat But it's much healthier for you. I wouldn't recommend calling the cops the sad truth is Narcissists do gravitate towards positions of power and there are many sociopaths and Psychopaths in the police force as well as the courts Therapists Yes, Christian. I Do believe that vegan food Has had a positive influence on my emotions. I feel more compassionate especially towards animals, I think we get into a habit of You know, we become desensitized to to what we're actually doing You know how billions of animals are being slaughtered every single year, you know just for our meals When we could quite easily have a plant-based meal And it would be more nutritional It would be better for us Yes, Charlotte, you can start your own channel. I am coaching people with YouTube channels now as well I'm providing the same formula That helped me to find my success so if this interests you Just send me an email at NarcissistFiver coaching at gmail.com and then we can arrange a coaching session For starting your own YouTube channel. How do you get a covert not girlfriend out of the house for good? You've got to think Why can't you get rid of her? It's probably because She believes that it is more beneficial for her to stay so You've got to make it seem like it's more beneficial for her to leave Make it seem like it's in her favor Rather than her doing something for you Anyway, that's all for now. I hope this live has been beneficial for you and Maybe we'll do this again soon. I'll see you in the Premiers tomorrow Thank you for joining